[01:29] <Fudge> how can i start gparted without getting errors? can not open display
[04:41] <pangolin> 64 bit Desktop installer keeps crashing in VirtualBox
[04:42] <pangolin> soon as it gets done downloading packages.
[05:06] <pangolin> the Alternate iso appears to be working
[07:24] <orated> Using Ubuntu 12.04, kernel 3.2.0-7-generic-pae, Sandy bridge processor. I see lspci able to detect Nvidia GPU but does the Optimus feature work?
[07:31] <orated> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-p-hybrid-graphics
[13:13] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[15:22] <BluesKaj> no alsamixer without sudo /usr/bin/. no kmix in kde , no chromium-browser , phonon doesn't see the right sound drivers even tho the proper modules are lodaed...what a mess ! and I was bragging how stable and smooth everything was running just 24 hrs ago :(
[16:23] <BluesKaj> gonna reinstall 11.10 ... my testing 12.04 is over for a while 'til I hear that browsers will launch and alsamixer and kmix can be setup normally
[16:49] <penguin42> yofel: I think I like the new KDE colour scheme
[16:49]  * penguin42 assumes it's intentional
[16:50] <yofel> did we change the color scheme? I don't use the defaults. The background is nice though, ksplash looks better this way
[16:53] <BluesKaj> didn't see any changes colour-wise , just broken browsers and broken kmis and alsa/pulseaudio
[16:53] <BluesKaj> kmix
[16:55] <penguin42> yofel: Well, since yesterdays updates the kdm is now a black background with the login bit nice in the middle of the screen, and hte background on my panel at the bottom is now a shaded silvery grey
[16:57] <yofel> hm, kdm should have a grey-ish background too, check in the login screen settings if the theme is set to Ariya
[16:57]  * BluesKaj is thinking about reverting to 11.10 , this alpha has permissions and launch problems here
[16:57] <yofel> need to check how to update the settings
[16:59] <penguin42> yofel: Hmm - in the login screen settings it shows 'Appearance - Use themed greeter - Gui style: <default>   Color scheme: <default>' but in Theme it shows 'Horos' as the theme - with a light blue background which looked like the old one
[17:00] <yofel> yeah, problem is horos won't work anymore unless you have kde-workspace-data-extras installed, Ariya is the default theme for 4.8
[17:01] <penguin42> yofel: hmm, pity it doesn't tell me that, since at the moment I don't see anything telling me why the settings page is different from what I see
[17:01] <penguin42> yofel: And Ariya isn't listed in the theme tab
[17:01] <yofel> o.O
[17:02] <yofel> you have kdm 4:4.7.95-0ubuntu1 installed?
[17:02] <yofel> wait, you have, otherwise horos would work
[17:02] <penguin42> no!
[17:02] <penguin42> My kdm is still 4.7.90-0ubuntu1
[17:03]  * yofel now wonders why horos doesn't work
[17:03] <penguin42> right, look like I have a mix of .90 and .95 - I guess some were still working there way through when I did the update this morning
[17:03] <yofel> yeah, most uploads got in yesterday evening, and needed retries
[17:08] <penguin42> BluesKaj: Maybe that's also your problem?
[17:11] <BluesKaj> yeah, i shouldn't have installed kde 4.7.9 , perhaps ...it's not ready either
[17:11] <BluesKaj> penguin42,^
[17:12] <penguin42> BluesKaj: Mostly seems good here
[17:13] <yofel> works fine here except kmix
[17:14] <BluesKaj> not here , unfortunately , no folders listed in /usr/libs , /usr/bin etc with dolphin ,works ok with konqueror tho
[17:16] <BluesKaj> kmix is missing from the panel , alsmixer won't show unless using sudo /usr/bin/alsamixer , no sound modules are working , phonon doesn't   load pulseaudio , and doesn't see the right soundcard modules
[17:16] <penguin42> kmix is working find here
[17:17] <BluesKaj> I'm going to revert to 11.10 ..I need the audio to work and i'm not gonna foolaround trying to get phonon to see the right soundcard options
[19:59] <alkisg> Hi, I'm about to install Kubuntu Precise, which one would you suggest, the daily live or alpha 1?
[20:04]  * penguin42 hasn't tried the daily install, but I've been doing updates every day
[20:06]  * alkisg downloads the daily build... :)
[20:13] <bjsnider> alkisg, at leas the daily cd has more recent packages. it isn't guaranteed to work though
[20:13] <alkisg> bjsnider: yup, that's why I was asking, to see if anyone has tested it recently
[20:34] <Ian_Corne> any word on fglrx for 12.04?
[20:35] <Ian_Corne> the OS driver doesn't work for dual screen for me
[20:36] <penguin42> Ian_Corne: Can you bug report it not working for dual screen
[20:36] <Ian_Corne> ok
[20:36] <Ian_Corne> against what should I report it?
[20:37] <Ian_Corne> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Cayman PRO [Radeon HD 6950]
[20:37] <Ian_Corne> btw
[20:43] <penguin42> Ian_Corne: xorg
[20:44] <Ian_Corne> k
[20:53] <Ian_Corne> err penguin42
[20:53] <Ian_Corne> I updated
[20:53] <Ian_Corne> without rebooting or restarting X or anything
[20:53] <Ian_Corne> it works now
[20:54] <Ian_Corne> christmas present from ubuntu to Ian!
[20:54] <penguin42> hmm
[20:54] <penguin42> good!  If it breaks again,report it - if you're lucky when you do ubuntu-bug xorg it might have the X logs to explain what went wrong
[20:54] <Ian_Corne> I will :)
[22:20] <mellpatr> I have the error
[22:20] <mellpatr> java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: /home/mellpatr/opt/CA/client/lib/libldap.so: libssl.so.0.9.7: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[22:20] <mellpatr> but the file exists in  /home/mellpatr/opt/CA/client/lib
[22:20] <mellpatr> anyone have an idea of this error ?
[22:29] <yofel> do you mean that libldap.so exists or libssl.so.0.9.7? Because it's libssl.so.0.9.7 that it can't find
[22:29] <yofel> and libssl is libssl.so.0.9.8 now
[22:29] <yofel> so rebuild ldap
[22:30] <Ian_Corne> penguin42: even after reboot it just works
[22:30] <micahg> well, libssl.so.1.0.0 is current
[22:31] <yofel> oops, right -.-
[22:35] <mellpatr> yofel, i have both files in folder..
[22:35] <mellpatr> =D
[22:35] <mellpatr> this lib has distributed with the harvest installation...
[22:35] <mellpatr> im trying to running the harvest eclipse plugin in eclipse with 32-bits and my system is 64-bits...
[22:36] <mellpatr> micahg: i have the libssl.so.1.0.0 at my /usr/lib32 folder...
[22:37] <mellpatr> if i have try to symbolic link and remove the files from installation dir..
[22:38] <micahg> mellpatr: you probably want libssl1.0.0:i386
[22:39] <yofel> that probably won't help, as the SONAME won't match, he could add /home/mellpatr/opt/CA/client/lib/ to the LD_LIBRARY_PATH before starting eclipse
[22:40] <micahg> oh, right, the plugin needs to be rebuilt against the new library
[22:41] <mellpatr> hummm .. .i put the path only in the eclipse.ini...
[22:41] <mellpatr> ill trying to put at ld_library_path too
[22:41] <Ian_Corne> time for some star craft and night tilme!
[22:41] <Ian_Corne> gn
[22:42] <yofel> it's an environment variable, and needs to be all uppercase
[22:43] <mellpatr> yes!
[22:45] <mellpatr> yofel, micahg, yes!! in the ld_library_path has working...
[22:45] <mellpatr> thank you very much!!
[23:04] <penguin42> Ian_Corne: Well then keep your fingers cross and you might be OK :-)  However, I don't know why it didn't work, but you might like to try things like whether you switched on your monitors after your computer ot something like that
[23:33] <alkisg> Nah, the kubuntu daily cd is unbootable, the pxelinux => kernel step hangs without any error messages at all
[23:33] <alkisg> *isolinux
[23:35] <penguin42> hmm odd- I've not tried the dailies; but I don't think I've seen anyone else report that - 32 or 64 bit? ANd when you say no error message what's on the screen?
[23:36] <alkisg> penguin42: trying with virtualbox under lucid. i386. I remove "quiet splash", so I get "loading vmlinuz/initrd.. done", and that's alll
[23:37] <penguin42> alkisg: does it still have a vt.handoff one ?
[23:37] <alkisg> penguin42: no, but also I don't think I ever saw that in the cd
[23:37] <alkisg> Isn't that grub-only?
[23:37] <penguin42> yeh I think you're right
[23:38] <penguin42> hmm, hang on let me grab the kubuntu daily and try it here
[23:38] <alkisg> Actually, if I just remove quiet/splash and press enter, I get an empty text screen (after the isolinux gfxboot) with the cursor on the top left,
[23:39] <alkisg> so to see the "loading vmlinuz...done" etc I have to press Esc, get out of gfxboot, and type the kernel command line myself
[23:39] <penguin42> remind me, what's the URL for the dailies?
[23:39] <alkisg> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/
[23:40] <alkisg> I got this one: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/precise-desktop-i386.iso
[23:40] <penguin42> right, it's slurping down - 10mins to go
[23:46] <penguin42> 4
[23:47] <alkisg> I replaced vmlinuz and initrd.lz with the ones from ubuntu (not kubuntu) alpha-1, it boots this way
[23:47] <alkisg> So one of those is busted
[23:51] <penguin42> right, got it - let me try it
[23:53] <penguin42> alkisg: Boots as a kvm guest
[23:53] <alkisg> Hmm let me try modifying my vbox guest properties...
[23:53] <penguin42> alkisg: This is the iso with sha256 of 4f01824073feaf87edb3c993582dbfe76118bf04873bf4f4b8ce3b29d275cd9f
[23:54] <penguin42> (heck I think it booted in the VM faster than my host boots)
[23:54] <alkisg> It's probably some incompatibility with the new -pae kernel and my vbox guest then
[23:54] <penguin42> how much ram did you give it?
[23:54] <alkisg> Let me play with the guest settings a bit..
[23:54] <alkisg> 512MB, but it shouldn't matter at that point
[23:55] <alkisg> Yeah got it
[23:55] <alkisg> With 64bit client => hangs
[23:55] <penguin42> alkisg: I've got it running with 1GB ram, 2 cores, a cirrus display card, IDE cdrom, and virtio disk
[23:55] <alkisg> With regular => complains about pae
[23:55] <alkisg> With regular (32bit client) AND pae => boots
[23:55] <alkisg> Alpha-1 booted fine in all those though
[23:55] <penguin42> you mean the virtualbox config?
[23:56] <alkisg> Yes
[23:58] <penguin42> I'm a little surprised it doesn't fail more cleanly - but PAE isn't an unreasonable requirement
[23:58] <alkisg> It displays a very nice message in the pae-missing case
[23:58] <alkisg> The problem is with the 64bit vbox guest... but anyway it shouldn't matter much, maybe some vbox compatibility problem
[23:59] <penguin42> ok, so the one where it hangs is where you tell virtualbox you're going to run a 64bit guest and sneekily run a 32bit PAE one
[23:59] <alkisg> Thanks a lot for your feedback :)
[23:59] <alkisg> Right
[23:59] <penguin42> I guess that's somewhere between a PEBKAC and a virtualbox bug?
[23:59] <alkisg> I'm not sure if it would be a PEBKAC - aren't all new machines 64bit capable?