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| earthling__ | How do I disable evolution processes? and have them disabled everytime I bootup? I only see one in Startup Applications | 01:23 |
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| truepurple | Is there a way to stop a installation in progress through the software manager? | 01:28 |
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| iggy19 | is there a way to increase the space allocated to /home? | 04:53 |
| seidos | iggy19: i believe yes, but it may not be possible with existing tools. have you investigated gparted? | 04:57 |
| iggy19 | yeah, I'm familiar with gparted. | 04:57 |
| seidos | iggy19: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1024692.html | 04:58 |
| iggy19 | thing is, I'm not sure how I have this setup. / is 20GB and has ~15G free, and /home is in the same partition, but is limited to 2G | 04:58 |
| iggy19 | what would be limiting the size of /home but the partition size? | 04:58 |
| seidos | iggy19: the mount point of /home | 04:59 |
| iggy19 | seidos: explain? | 04:59 |
| seidos | iggy19: one partition, and / and /home are mounted in it | 05:00 |
| iggy19 | yes, that appears to be what I have. But why is less than the full partition size availible to /home? | 05:01 |
| iggy19 | and more to the point, how do I adjust that allocation | 05:01 |
| iggy19 | since they are on the same parition it's not going to be gparted thing (even if I trusted gparted to adjust parition sizes) | 05:02 |
| seidos | ah, that is strange... | 05:02 |
| seidos | i don't know, never had that problem | 05:02 |
| iggy19 | hmmmm..... | 05:03 |
| seidos | so the partition does have 15G free, partitioned, and formatted? | 05:03 |
| iggy19 | Yes, LVM-->dm-crypt | 05:03 |
| iggy19 | crypted home on top of that | 05:03 |
| iggy19 | df reports: /dev/mapper/Evolution-sysroot 19295524 4937384 13377968 27% / | 05:04 |
| iggy19 | and: /dev/mapper/Evolution-home 1967440 1867536 0 100% /home | 05:05 |
| seidos | if you're encrypting folders, i probably can't help you. maybe you can help me :) | 05:05 |
| iggy19 | some things I'm pretty solid in, others not so much. I've been using *nix on-and-off since the mid 90's, but there's a bunch I don't know. | 05:06 |
| iggy19 | If you have an encryption question, I can maybe acutally help | 05:07 |
| iggy19 | afk brb | 05:07 |
| iggy19 | back | 05:11 |
| iggy19 | seidos: gotta reboot back in a flash | 05:15 |
| seidos | i just started using it in 2009 | 05:15 |
| iggy19 | seidos: it=encryption? | 05:16 |
| seidos | iggy19: no, linux. well, in any seriousness anyway | 05:16 |
| iggy19 | i'll hold off on the reboot | 05:16 |
| seidos | oh, don't let me stop you, i'm going to be around | 05:16 |
| iggy19 | yeah, I'm not that serious. Too damn busy to learn it like should | 05:17 |
| seidos | you actually gave me an idea for a project | 05:17 |
| iggy19 | which is? | 05:18 |
| seidos | to set up a spare computer to play with | 05:18 |
| seidos | i had one running ubuntu, but i've been trying to save on electricity | 05:18 |
| iggy19 | perfect example of me being a noob despite years of using various flavors of *nix: firefox crashed, I force killed it, but the process is still running, and kill -9 <pid> won't kill it. Don't know how to fix that to allow me to restart FF w/o a reboot | 05:19 |
| iggy19 | cheap old laptop won't take too much juice | 05:19 |
| seidos | i have a "cheap old desktop" | 05:20 |
| seidos | so i would only leave it running when inspired to work/play on it | 05:20 |
| seidos | iggy19: kill -9 <pid> has always killed a process, as long as i use sudo | 05:21 |
| iggy19 | doh! | 05:21 |
| seidos | >_> | 05:21 |
| iggy19 | Actually, didn't work even w/ the proper sudo | 05:26 |
| seidos | hmmm | 05:27 |
| seidos | this may be a conversation best left for #ubuntu-beginners-team | 05:27 |
| iggy19 | asking in /freenode/#ubuntu w/o any luck so far | 05:28 |
| seidos | the gparted stuff or kill -9 ? | 05:28 |
| iggy19 | kill -9 | 05:28 |
| iggy19 | was going to browse some more on the /home stuff before I can even coherently parse a non-noob question about my home directory issues | 05:29 |
| seidos | i wouldn't even know how to define "beginner" let alone "noob" | 05:30 |
| iggy19 | If I can't formulate the question clearly, I figure it belongs in -beginners | 05:31 |
| iggy19 | lol | 05:31 |
| mysteriousdarren | seidos: I can do that...haha | 05:31 |
| mysteriousdarren | iggy19: what is your question? | 05:31 |
| iggy19 | mysteriousdarren - many of them today - finally sat down to try to solve some things I've been ignoring. | 05:31 |
| mysteriousdarren | iggy19: well if I can help I will or point you in the right direction. | 05:32 |
| iggy19 | At the very present moment two: 1) sudo kill -9 <pid> does not appear to kill the firefox-bin process | 05:32 |
| iggy19 | and 2) how do I resize my /home on a LVM-->dmcrypt partition? | 05:33 |
| iggy19 | mysteriousdarren: thank you! | 05:33 |
| mysteriousdarren | iggy19: well lets start with the first one......LVM virtualized you mean? | 05:34 |
| mysteriousdarren | iggy19: I would ask the other question in #ubuntu-mozillateam | 05:34 |
| mysteriousdarren | iggy19: Do you have to kill it via commandline? | 05:35 |
| iggy19 | about the browser: it stalled/crashed, I chose right-click close, then chose force-quit from the dialog box. Restsarting FF tells me it is still running and I need to quit the previous instance before restarting. ps confirms it is running. Kill fails. | 05:37 |
| mysteriousdarren | iggy19: you don't have a system monitor or task manager? I get tired of remembering every process and just install one of those to kill things | 05:38 |
| iggy19 | Hmmm... yes | 05:39 |
| iggy19 | system monitor lists the ff process as "Uninterruptible" | 05:40 |
| seidos | mysteriousdarren: ps will do it, it lists processes in cli | 05:40 |
| seidos | iggy19: what version of ff? | 05:40 |
| mysteriousdarren | iggy19: did you try it anyway? | 05:41 |
| mysteriousdarren | seidos: ps? | 05:41 |
| seidos | mysteriousdarren: well, ps aux does | 05:42 |
| mysteriousdarren | iggy: oh you mean ps -C PROCESS? | 05:43 |
| mysteriousdarren | sorry that was meant for seidos | 05:44 |
| iggy19 | seido: not sure, one or two before the current one | 05:46 |
| mysteriousdarren | iggy19: did that work? there are many more users in #ubuntu too, alot of them have at least a couple years on me | 05:47 |
| iggy19 | mysteriousdarren: I'm geting advice on #ubuntu currently | 05:47 |
| iggy19 | trying to learn something before I solve this | 05:47 |
| mysteriousdarren | iggy19: ok good. | 05:47 |
| iggy19 | mysteriousdarren: figured it's probably due to failed disk write, but no idea how to actually kill the process w/o a reboot. System going down now. BRB. | 06:23 |
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| hydrogrow | hola amigo | 10:13 |
| hydrogrow | s | 10:13 |
| Awesomaes | vozdra komsijo | 10:14 |
| hydrogrow | en english | 10:14 |
| hydrogrow | enough of that hows everyone doing this morning | 10:15 |
| bobweaver | hello there I am having some massive troubles getting wine installed I have tried from ubuntu software center ,synaptic,apt-get install , could some one please help me. after install there is no .wine folder under ~ | 14:14 |
| bobweaver | nm guys and girls I got some one helped on the ubuntu channel | 14:18 |
| bobweaver | I needed to configure it :>) lol | 14:18 |
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| stlsaint | bgs100: yo man. really really long time no speak between us | 15:25 |
| tdn_ | I have just installed Ubuntu 11.10 on a completely new Lenovo workstation with preinstalled Windows 7. I chose to install Ubuntu side-by-side with Windows. However, when restarting after install, it just boots Windows. Not Ubuntu. I figure this has something to do with EFI or something. How do I fix this? | 15:30 |
| stlsaint | tdn_: you sure that ubuntu is installed to the system? | 15:31 |
| stlsaint | tdn_: regarldess see here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling_GRUB2 | 15:33 |
| hobgoblin | tdn_: once you have the livecd/usb booted - open a terminal and run sudo fdisk -l | 15:35 |
| hobgoblin | should be linux partitions showing as well as win ones | 15:35 |
| tdn_ | stlsaint, well, it went all the way thrrough the installer and copied lots of files to hdd. It said that it was installed ... | 15:35 |
| stlsaint | see link | 15:35 |
| tdn_ | hobgoblin, fdisk and gparted shows linux partitikons | 15:35 |
| tdn_ | stlsaint, I am there. | 15:35 |
| hobgoblin | that's good then | 15:35 |
| stlsaint | tdn_: than you just need to reinstall grub2 than | 15:36 |
| hobgoblin | unless it is this uefi stuff | 15:37 |
| tdn_ | I am pretty sure this is efi/uefi. | 15:37 |
| tdn_ | I tried dmesg | grep EFI and it gives me lots of lines. | 15:38 |
| hobgoblin | dmesg from the livecd is that | 15:38 |
| tdn_ | hobgoblin, yes, dmesg is from livecd. Cannot boot the installed Ubuntu. | 15:38 |
| hobgoblin | you looked on the forum at all | 15:39 |
| tdn_ | hobgoblin, yes, lots. I see no clear solution. | 15:39 |
| tdn_ | stlsaint, the URL you posted tells me to run boot-repair program. I did, but it says that efi or uefi detected. | 15:39 |
| stlsaint | i thought that was on windows 8 only? that what you running? | 15:40 |
| tdn_ | stlsaint, win 7 | 15:40 |
| stlsaint | go into bios and turn it off | 15:41 |
| tdn_ | stlsaint, I went to bios setup. Could not find anything on EFI. | 15:41 |
| stlsaint | it has to be able to be turned off. Google your make/model and "turn off EFI" | 15:42 |
| hobgoblin | http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11549005&postcount=7 | 15:42 |
| hobgoblin | tdn_: did you see this one ^^ | 15:42 |
| hobgoblin | but as stlsaint says you should be able to turn it off | 15:43 |
| tdn_ | I just tried googling lenovo thinkcentre "turn off efi", it gives nothing. | 15:43 |
| stlsaint | is efi the proper term for it? | 15:46 |
| hobgoblin | tdn_: do you not have the manual for it ? | 15:46 |
| stlsaint | very little on research of it but all have the option to turn off. Maybe dig abit more around in bios or check your POST key options | 15:50 |
| tdn_ | hobgoblin, yes | 15:51 |
| hobgoblin | I assume you read it then :) | 15:51 |
| hobgoblin | it's not something I have an experience with I'm afraid - likely to be years till I do - I run old machines | 15:52 |
| hobgoblin | might be worth posting on the forum | 15:52 |
| tdn_ | hobgoblin, cannot see anything about this in manual. What to look for? | 16:05 |
| hobgoblin | well I'd be looking for uefi or efi - or security or somesuch - probably I'd go into the bios or whatever and look for things | 16:07 |
| hobgoblin | the other thing you might have is an option when you boot to choose | 16:08 |
| hobgoblin | no idea really without seeing the manual or having a number to search for | 16:08 |
| tdn_ | hobgoblin, security? | 16:14 |
| tdn_ | There is almost no usable info in the manual. | 16:16 |
| tdn_ | It is about 25 pages but in 20 languages or so. | 16:16 |
| tdn_ | It is just safety and warranty information. | 16:16 |
| hobgoblin | mmm ok - try this then - are you still in the livecd | 16:21 |
| hobgoblin | tdn_: ^^ if you are open a terminal - run this command and then paste the whole lot to paste.ubuntu.com and give us the url once you have put a name and entered | 16:25 |
| hobgoblin | sudo dmidecode | 16:25 |
| Snicksie | hm, maybe pastebinit will be easier then hobgoblin ? :) | 16:27 |
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| Snicksie | sudo dmidecode | pastebinit (if the pastebinit command is installed) | 16:27 |
| hobgoblin | if it's installed Snicksie ;) | 16:27 |
| Snicksie | yeah, that was on the end of my sentence :D | 16:27 |
| hobgoblin | :) | 16:27 |
| hobgoblin | I Was typing and sending | 16:27 |
| stlsaint | Snicksie: this is not installed by default | 16:28 |
| stlsaint | Snicksie: on live cd that is | 16:28 |
| stlsaint | Snicksie: sorry not wanting to cause confusion so i will rephrase: pastebinit is not default on live cd | 16:28 |
| hobgoblin | yay for xubuntu then :D | 16:29 |
| stlsaint | wait what?? lol!? what did xubuntu do?? | 16:29 |
| hobgoblin | have pastebinit installed :) | 16:29 |
| stlsaint | hobgoblin: oh haha | 16:29 |
| Snicksie | I know stlsaint :) | 16:30 |
| stlsaint | yea it really is great to have and has very few depends | 16:30 |
| tdn_ | hobgoblin, which command? | 16:34 |
| tdn_ | hobgoblin, oh, dmidecode. One moment. | 16:34 |
| hobgoblin | :) | 16:36 |
| tdn_ | http://p.adora.dk/P2274.html | 16:42 |
| tdn_ | dmidecode ^ | 16:42 |
| tdn_ | hobgoblin, does that help? | 16:42 |
| hobgoblin | no idea yet - give me a chance :) | 16:43 |
| tdn_ | hobgoblin, sure :) | 16:43 |
| hobgoblin | gonna be a while tdn_ - trying to track down the motherboard manual | 16:45 |
| tdn_ | hobgoblin, cool. | 16:45 |
| hobgoblin | tdn_: what is it - laptop pc ... | 16:47 |
| tdn_ | hobgoblin, nope. Lenovo ThinkCentre Edge | 16:47 |
| hobgoblin | tdn_: can't find much at all about it - but I think if you reboot it and press F1 you should eventually get into the system setup - have a look in there - write things down if necessary then ask | 17:01 |
| hobgoblin | sorry I can't be of much more help | 17:01 |
| hobgoblin | might even be worth phoning lenovo | 17:05 |
| tdn_ | hobgoblin, I have already looked in bios set up. | 17:07 |
| tdn_ | hobgoblin, could not find anything about EFI | 17:07 |
| hobgoblin | k | 17:07 |
| hobgoblin | try a thread in the forum perhaps - you could try #ubuntu - you coudl try a call to them in your country | 17:07 |
| hobgoblin | another thought - pastebin that dmesg first - lets have a look at that | 17:08 |
| hobgoblin | grasping at straws a bit though | 17:08 |
| tdn_ | hobgoblin, I have tried in #ubuntu, it seems unresponsive :( | 17:09 |
| hobgoblin | k | 17:09 |
| tdn_ | On this subject at least. | 17:09 |
| tdn_ | Will find dmesg now. | 17:09 |
| tdn_ | http://paste.adora.dk/P2275.txt | 17:10 |
| tdn_ | hobgoblin, dmesg | 17:10 |
| tdn_ | ^ | 17:10 |
| hobgoblin | k - nothing jumping at me there - sorry | 17:15 |
| tdn_ | hobgoblin, :( | 17:15 |
| hobgoblin | I'd be inclined to trying the forum - plenty of people there with knowledge - if you do then go to here and get that information for the thread - http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ | 17:16 |
| hobgoblin | people have got it running ok - might need a bit of fiddling about | 17:16 |
| hobgoblin | tdn_: good luck - but I have to go afk for a while now | 17:17 |
| tdn_ | http://paste.adora.dk/P2276.html <- fdisk -l | 17:19 |
| tdn_ | hobgoblin, thanks. | 17:20 |
| tdn_ | http://paste.adora.dk/P2277.html output from bootinfo script | 17:25 |
| iggy19 | hey all | 17:30 |
| iggy19 | i'm not clearly remembering how I set up this system. | 17:31 |
| iggy19 | I have a dm-crypt partition, that hosts / and /home | 17:32 |
| iggy19 | mount lists /dev/mapper/Evolution-sysroot on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro,commit=600) and /dev/mapper/Evolution-home on /home type ext3 (rw,commit=600) | 17:32 |
| iggy19 | can someone explain what I did during setup? | 17:33 |
| stlsaint | lol huh? | 17:33 |
| stlsaint | you did not want this setup? | 17:34 |
| iggy19 | No I do, I just need to understand better how I set it up so I can ask my next question, which is about resizing encrypted home | 17:34 |
| stlsaint | if you used trucrypt i would suggest taking a gander at their site. i personally do not use it | 17:35 |
| iggy19 | I do use TC, but this is not it. This is dm-crypt | 17:36 |
| stlsaint | even worse mate, i truly have no idea on that one | 17:36 |
| iggy19 | The whole partition is dm-crypt on LVM | 17:36 |
| stlsaint | your trying to resize a encryped LVM?? | 17:36 |
| iggy19 | No, I'm trying to resize the encrypted user (Evo) home on top of the dm-crypt partition | 17:37 |
| hobgoblin | tdn_: hi - thanks for that - but I'm not able to help anymore with this issue - just be wasting your time - use that information for any thread you might start on the forum | 17:37 |
| hobgoblin | you might also try askubuntu.com | 17:37 |
| stlsaint | iggy19: which is lvm? | 17:37 |
| iggy19 | My question right now is how device mapper works. That is, what is going on that allows me to have both / and /home on the same physical partition (sda5) | 17:38 |
| iggy19 | stlsaint: sda5 is LVM w/ dm-crypt on top of it, / and /home are mounted on sda5 and /home/Evo is crypted on top of all that | 17:39 |
| stlsaint | and you want to make evo larger? I would suggest removing the encryption then resize then encrpt | 17:40 |
| iggy19 | Gotta run now. Excited to look at scrollback when I return. If nothing, I'll take this to #ubuntu | 17:40 |
| hobgoblin | tdn_: one more - from what I can see from the bootinfo and askubuntu it would have set it up for uefi if it was there - when you boot do you have an F key option for boot devices? | 17:41 |
| iggy19 | stlsaint: I need to understand how device mapper allows two mount points on one paritition and how it controls the size of each before I can be sure if what you suggest is actually what I want to do? | 17:42 |
| iggy19 | TTFN! | 17:42 |
| stlsaint | ok | 17:43 |
| tdn_ | hobgoblin, no, I do not beleive I do have an F option. Where would it be? It just boots Windows 7 immidieately. | 18:34 |
| hobgoblin | it'd be when you boot - if not then I really don't have anything else :( | 18:34 |
| hobgoblin | should be F12 apparently | 18:36 |
| hobgoblin | you could try hitting shift when it boots - can always hope | 18:39 |
| hobgoblin | see if grub is theree - but I'm doubtful | 18:46 |
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| tdn_ | iggy19, do you run phys partitions > lvm > lvs > dm-crypt? | 22:23 |
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