[01:23] <earthling__> How do I disable evolution processes? and have them disabled everytime I bootup?  I only see one in Startup Applications
[01:28] <truepurple> Is there a way to stop a installation in progress through the software manager?
[04:53] <iggy19> is there a way to increase the space allocated to /home?
[04:57] <seidos> iggy19: i believe yes, but it may not be possible with existing tools.  have you investigated gparted?
[04:57] <iggy19> yeah, I'm familiar with gparted.
[04:58] <seidos> iggy19: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1024692.html
[04:58] <iggy19> thing is, I'm not sure how I have this setup.  / is 20GB and has ~15G free, and /home is in the same partition, but is limited to 2G
[04:58] <iggy19> what would be limiting the size of /home but the partition size?
[04:59] <seidos> iggy19: the mount point of /home
[04:59] <iggy19> seidos: explain?
[05:00] <seidos> iggy19: one partition, and / and /home are mounted in it
[05:01] <iggy19> yes, that appears to be what I have.  But why is less than the full partition size availible to /home?
[05:01] <iggy19> and more to the point, how do I adjust that allocation
[05:02] <iggy19> since they are on the same parition it's not going to be gparted thing (even if I trusted gparted to adjust parition sizes)
[05:02] <seidos> ah, that is strange...
[05:02] <seidos> i don't know, never had that problem
[05:03] <iggy19> hmmmm.....
[05:03] <seidos> so the partition does have 15G free, partitioned, and formatted?
[05:03] <iggy19> Yes, LVM-->dm-crypt
[05:03] <iggy19> crypted home on top of that
[05:04] <iggy19> df reports: /dev/mapper/Evolution-sysroot 19295524   4937384  13377968  27% /
[05:05] <iggy19> and: /dev/mapper/Evolution-home 1967440   1867536         0 100% /home
[05:05] <seidos> if you're encrypting folders, i probably can't help you.  maybe you can help me :)
[05:06] <iggy19> some things I'm pretty solid in, others not so much.  I've been using *nix on-and-off since the mid 90's, but there's a bunch I don't know.
[05:07] <iggy19> If you have an encryption question, I can maybe acutally help
[05:07] <iggy19> afk brb
[05:11] <iggy19> back
[05:15] <iggy19> seidos: gotta reboot back in a flash
[05:15] <seidos> i just started using it in 2009
[05:16] <iggy19> seidos: it=encryption?
[05:16] <seidos> iggy19: no, linux.  well, in any seriousness anyway
[05:16] <iggy19> i'll hold off on the reboot
[05:16] <seidos> oh, don't let me stop you, i'm going to be around
[05:17] <iggy19> yeah, I'm not that serious.  Too damn busy to learn it like should
[05:17] <seidos> you actually gave me an idea for a project
[05:18] <iggy19> which is?
[05:18] <seidos> to set up a spare computer to play with
[05:18] <seidos> i had one running ubuntu, but i've been trying to save on electricity
[05:19] <iggy19> perfect example of me being a noob despite years of using various flavors of *nix: firefox crashed, I force killed it, but the process is still running, and kill -9 <pid> won't kill it.  Don't know how to fix that to allow me to restart FF w/o a reboot
[05:19] <iggy19> cheap old laptop won't take too much juice
[05:20] <seidos> i have a "cheap old desktop"
[05:20] <seidos> so i would only leave it running when inspired to work/play on it
[05:21] <seidos> iggy19: kill -9 <pid> has always killed a process, as long as i use sudo
[05:21] <iggy19> doh!
[05:21] <seidos> >_>
[05:26] <iggy19> Actually, didn't work even w/ the proper sudo
[05:27] <seidos> hmmm
[05:27] <seidos> this may be a conversation best left for #ubuntu-beginners-team
[05:28] <iggy19> asking in /freenode/#ubuntu w/o any luck so far
[05:28] <seidos> the gparted stuff or kill -9 ?
[05:28] <iggy19> kill -9
[05:29] <iggy19> was going to browse some more on the /home stuff before I can even coherently parse a non-noob question about my home directory issues
[05:30] <seidos> i wouldn't even know how to define "beginner" let alone "noob"
[05:31] <iggy19> If I can't formulate the question clearly, I figure it belongs in -beginners
[05:31] <iggy19> lol
[05:31] <mysteriousdarren> seidos: I can do that...haha
[05:31] <mysteriousdarren> iggy19: what is your question?
[05:31] <iggy19> mysteriousdarren - many of them today - finally sat down to try to solve some things I've been ignoring.
[05:32] <mysteriousdarren> iggy19: well if I can help I will or point you in the right direction.
[05:32] <iggy19> At the very present moment two: 1) sudo kill -9 <pid> does not appear to kill the firefox-bin process
[05:33] <iggy19> and 2) how do I resize my /home on a LVM-->dmcrypt partition?
[05:33] <iggy19> mysteriousdarren: thank you!
[05:34] <mysteriousdarren> iggy19: well lets start with the first one......LVM virtualized you mean?
[05:34] <mysteriousdarren> iggy19: I would ask the other question in #ubuntu-mozillateam
[05:35] <mysteriousdarren> iggy19: Do you have to kill it via commandline?
[05:37] <iggy19> about the browser: it stalled/crashed, I chose right-click close, then chose force-quit from the dialog box.  Restsarting FF tells me it is still running and I need to quit the previous instance before restarting.  ps confirms it is running.  Kill fails.
[05:38] <mysteriousdarren> iggy19: you don't have a system monitor or task manager? I get tired of remembering every process and just install one of those to kill things
[05:39] <iggy19> Hmmm... yes
[05:40] <iggy19> system monitor lists the ff process as "Uninterruptible"
[05:40] <seidos> mysteriousdarren: ps will do it, it lists processes in cli
[05:40] <seidos> iggy19: what version of ff?
[05:41] <mysteriousdarren> iggy19: did you try it anyway?
[05:41] <mysteriousdarren> seidos: ps?
[05:42] <seidos> mysteriousdarren: well, ps aux does
[05:43] <mysteriousdarren> iggy: oh you mean ps -C PROCESS?
[05:44] <mysteriousdarren> sorry that was meant for seidos
[05:46] <iggy19> seido: not sure, one or two before the current one
[05:47] <mysteriousdarren> iggy19: did that work? there are many more users in #ubuntu too, alot of them have at least a couple years on me
[05:47] <iggy19> mysteriousdarren: I'm geting advice on #ubuntu currently
[05:47] <iggy19> trying to learn something before I solve this
[05:47] <mysteriousdarren> iggy19: ok good.
[06:23] <iggy19> mysteriousdarren: figured it's probably due to failed disk write, but no idea how to actually kill the process w/o a reboot.  System going down now.  BRB.
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[10:14] <Awesomaes> vozdra komsijo
[10:14] <hydrogrow> en english
[10:15] <hydrogrow> enough of that hows everyone doing this morning
[14:14] <bobweaver> hello there I am having some massive troubles getting wine installed I have tried from ubuntu software center ,synaptic,apt-get install , could some one please help me. after install there is no .wine folder under ~
[14:18] <bobweaver> nm guys and girls I got some one helped on the ubuntu channel
[14:18] <bobweaver> I needed to configure it :>) lol
[15:25] <stlsaint> bgs100: yo man. really really long time no speak between us
[15:30] <tdn_> I have just installed Ubuntu 11.10 on a completely new Lenovo workstation with preinstalled Windows 7. I chose to install Ubuntu side-by-side with Windows. However, when restarting after install, it just boots Windows. Not Ubuntu. I figure this has something to do with EFI or something. How do I fix this?
[15:31] <stlsaint> tdn_: you sure that ubuntu is installed to the system?
[15:33] <stlsaint> tdn_: regarldess see here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling_GRUB2
[15:35] <hobgoblin> tdn_: once you have the livecd/usb booted - open a terminal and run    sudo fdisk -l
[15:35] <hobgoblin> should be linux partitions showing as well as win ones
[15:35] <tdn_> stlsaint, well, it went all the way thrrough the installer and copied lots of files to hdd. It said that it was installed ...
[15:35] <stlsaint> see link
[15:35] <tdn_> hobgoblin, fdisk and gparted shows linux partitikons
[15:35] <tdn_> stlsaint, I am there.
[15:35] <hobgoblin> that's good then
[15:36] <stlsaint> tdn_: than you just need to reinstall grub2 than
[15:37] <hobgoblin> unless it is this uefi stuff
[15:37] <tdn_> I am pretty sure this is efi/uefi.
[15:38] <tdn_> I tried dmesg | grep EFI and it gives me lots of lines.
[15:38] <hobgoblin> dmesg from the livecd is that
[15:38] <tdn_> hobgoblin, yes, dmesg is from livecd. Cannot boot the installed Ubuntu.
[15:39] <hobgoblin> you looked on the forum at all
[15:39] <tdn_> hobgoblin, yes, lots. I see no clear solution.
[15:39] <tdn_> stlsaint, the URL you posted tells me to run boot-repair program. I did, but it says that efi or uefi detected.
[15:40] <stlsaint> i thought that was on windows 8 only? that what you running?
[15:40] <tdn_> stlsaint, win 7
[15:41] <stlsaint> go into bios and turn it off
[15:41] <tdn_> stlsaint, I went to bios setup. Could not find anything on EFI.
[15:42] <stlsaint> it has to be able to be turned off. Google your make/model and "turn off EFI"
[15:42] <hobgoblin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11549005&postcount=7
[15:42] <hobgoblin> tdn_: did you see this one ^^
[15:43] <hobgoblin> but as stlsaint says you should be able to turn it off
[15:43] <tdn_> I just tried googling lenovo thinkcentre "turn off efi", it gives nothing.
[15:46] <stlsaint> is efi the proper term for it?
[15:46] <hobgoblin> tdn_: do you not have the manual for it ?
[15:50] <stlsaint> very little on research of it but all have the option to turn off. Maybe dig abit more around in bios or check your POST key options
[15:51] <tdn_> hobgoblin, yes
[15:51] <hobgoblin> I assume you read it then :)
[15:52] <hobgoblin> it's not something I have an experience with I'm afraid - likely to be years till I do - I run old machines
[15:52] <hobgoblin> might be worth posting on the forum
[16:05] <tdn_> hobgoblin, cannot see anything about this in manual. What to look for?
[16:07] <hobgoblin> well I'd be looking for uefi or efi - or security or somesuch - probably I'd go into the bios or whatever and look for things
[16:08] <hobgoblin> the other thing you might have is an option when you boot to choose
[16:08] <hobgoblin> no idea really without seeing the manual or having a number to search for
[16:14] <tdn_> hobgoblin, security?
[16:16] <tdn_> There is almost no usable info in the manual.
[16:16] <tdn_> It is about 25 pages but in 20 languages or so.
[16:16] <tdn_> It is just safety and warranty information.
[16:21] <hobgoblin> mmm ok - try this then - are you still in the livecd
[16:25] <hobgoblin> tdn_: ^^ if you are open a terminal - run this command and then paste the whole lot to paste.ubuntu.com and give us the url once you have put a name and entered
[16:25] <hobgoblin> sudo dmidecode
[16:27] <Snicksie> hm, maybe pastebinit will be easier then hobgoblin ? :)
[16:27] <Snicksie> sudo dmidecode | pastebinit (if the pastebinit command is installed)
[16:27] <hobgoblin> if it's installed Snicksie ;)
[16:27] <Snicksie> yeah, that was on the end of my sentence :D
[16:27] <hobgoblin> :)
[16:27] <hobgoblin> I Was typing and sending
[16:28] <stlsaint> Snicksie: this is not installed by default
[16:28] <stlsaint> Snicksie: on live cd that is
[16:28] <stlsaint> Snicksie: sorry not wanting to cause confusion so i will rephrase: pastebinit is not default on live cd
[16:29] <hobgoblin> yay for xubuntu then :D
[16:29] <stlsaint> wait what?? lol!? what did xubuntu do??
[16:29] <hobgoblin> have pastebinit installed :)
[16:29] <stlsaint> hobgoblin: oh haha
[16:30] <Snicksie> I know stlsaint :)
[16:30] <stlsaint> yea it really is great to have and has very few depends
[16:34] <tdn_> hobgoblin, which command?
[16:34] <tdn_> hobgoblin, oh, dmidecode. One moment.
[16:36] <hobgoblin> :)
[16:42] <tdn_> http://p.adora.dk/P2274.html
[16:42] <tdn_> dmidecode  ^
[16:42] <tdn_> hobgoblin, does that help?
[16:43] <hobgoblin> no idea yet - give me a chance :)
[16:43] <tdn_> hobgoblin, sure :)
[16:45] <hobgoblin> gonna be a while tdn_ - trying to track down the motherboard manual
[16:45] <tdn_> hobgoblin, cool.
[16:47] <hobgoblin> tdn_: what is it - laptop pc ...
[16:47] <tdn_> hobgoblin, nope. Lenovo ThinkCentre Edge
[17:01] <hobgoblin> tdn_: can't find much at all about it - but I think if you reboot it and press F1 you should eventually get into the system setup - have a look in there - write things down if necessary then ask
[17:01] <hobgoblin> sorry I can't be of much more help
[17:05] <hobgoblin> might even be worth phoning lenovo
[17:07] <tdn_> hobgoblin, I have already looked in bios set up.
[17:07] <tdn_> hobgoblin, could not find anything about EFI
[17:07] <hobgoblin> k
[17:07] <hobgoblin> try a thread in the forum perhaps - you could try #ubuntu - you coudl try a call to them in your country
[17:08] <hobgoblin> another thought - pastebin that dmesg first - lets have a look at that
[17:08] <hobgoblin> grasping at straws a bit though
[17:09] <tdn_> hobgoblin, I have tried in #ubuntu, it seems unresponsive :(
[17:09] <hobgoblin> k
[17:09] <tdn_> On this subject at least.
[17:09] <tdn_> Will find dmesg now.
[17:10] <tdn_> http://paste.adora.dk/P2275.txt
[17:10] <tdn_> hobgoblin, dmesg
[17:10] <tdn_> ^
[17:15] <hobgoblin> k - nothing jumping at me there - sorry
[17:15] <tdn_> hobgoblin, :(
[17:16] <hobgoblin> I'd be inclined to trying the forum - plenty of people there with knowledge - if you do then go to here and get that information for the thread - http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[17:16] <hobgoblin> people have got it running ok - might need a bit of fiddling about
[17:17] <hobgoblin> tdn_: good luck - but I have to go afk for a while now
[17:19] <tdn_> http://paste.adora.dk/P2276.html  <- fdisk -l
[17:20] <tdn_> hobgoblin, thanks.
[17:25] <tdn_> http://paste.adora.dk/P2277.html output from bootinfo script
[17:30] <iggy19> hey all
[17:31] <iggy19> i'm not clearly remembering how I set up this system.
[17:32] <iggy19> I have a dm-crypt partition, that hosts / and /home
[17:32] <iggy19> mount lists /dev/mapper/Evolution-sysroot on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro,commit=600) and /dev/mapper/Evolution-home on /home type ext3 (rw,commit=600)
[17:33] <iggy19> can someone explain what I did during setup?
[17:33] <stlsaint> lol huh?
[17:34] <stlsaint> you did not want this setup?
[17:34] <iggy19> No I do, I just need to understand better how I set it up so I can ask my next question, which is about resizing encrypted home
[17:35] <stlsaint> if you used trucrypt i would suggest taking a gander at their site. i personally do not use it
[17:36] <iggy19> I do use TC, but this is not it.  This is dm-crypt
[17:36] <stlsaint> even worse mate, i truly have no idea on that one
[17:36] <iggy19> The whole partition is dm-crypt on LVM
[17:36] <stlsaint> your trying to resize a encryped LVM??
[17:37] <iggy19> No, I'm trying to resize the encrypted user (Evo) home on top of the dm-crypt partition
[17:37] <hobgoblin> tdn_: hi - thanks for that - but I'm not able to help anymore with this issue - just be wasting your time - use that information for any thread you might start on the forum
[17:37] <hobgoblin> you might also try askubuntu.com
[17:37] <stlsaint> iggy19: which is lvm?
[17:38] <iggy19> My question right now is how device mapper works.  That is, what is going on that allows me to have both / and /home on the same physical partition (sda5)
[17:39] <iggy19> stlsaint: sda5 is LVM w/ dm-crypt on top of it, / and /home are mounted on sda5 and /home/Evo is crypted on top of all that
[17:40] <stlsaint> and you want to make evo larger? I would suggest removing the encryption then resize then encrpt
[17:40] <iggy19> Gotta run now.  Excited to look at scrollback when I return.  If nothing, I'll take this to #ubuntu
[17:41] <hobgoblin> tdn_: one more - from what I can see from the bootinfo and askubuntu it would have set it up for uefi if it was there - when you boot do you have an F key option for boot devices?
[17:42] <iggy19> stlsaint: I need to understand how device mapper allows two mount points on one paritition and how it controls the size of each before I can be sure if what you suggest is actually what I want to do?
[17:42] <iggy19> TTFN!
[17:43] <stlsaint> ok
[18:34] <tdn_> hobgoblin, no, I do not beleive I do have an F option. Where would it be? It just boots Windows 7 immidieately.
[18:34] <hobgoblin> it'd be when you boot - if not then I really don't have anything else :(
[18:36] <hobgoblin> should be F12 apparently
[18:39] <hobgoblin> you could try hitting shift when it boots - can always hope
[18:46] <hobgoblin> see if grub is theree - but I'm doubtful
[22:23] <tdn_> iggy19, do you run phys partitions > lvm > lvs > dm-crypt?