=== IAmNotThatGuy is now known as SlaveComputer === SlaveComputer is now known as IAmNotThatGuy === jalcine is now known as IAmThatGuy === IAmThatGuy is now known as jalcine === jalcine is now known as Silverwolf === Silverwolf is now known as Silvertiger === Silvertiger is now known as jalcine [01:23] How do I disable evolution processes? and have them disabled everytime I bootup? I only see one in Startup Applications [01:28] Is there a way to stop a installation in progress through the software manager? === starcraft is now known as starcraftman === jalcine is now known as JackyAlcine === jalcine is now known as MasterComputersW === MasterComputersW is now known as DanteNemesis === DanteNemesis is now known as jalcine === jalcine is now known as JackyAlcine === sunyata is now known as seidos [04:53] is there a way to increase the space allocated to /home? [04:57] iggy19: i believe yes, but it may not be possible with existing tools. have you investigated gparted? [04:57] yeah, I'm familiar with gparted. [04:58] iggy19: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1024692.html [04:58] thing is, I'm not sure how I have this setup. / is 20GB and has ~15G free, and /home is in the same partition, but is limited to 2G [04:58] what would be limiting the size of /home but the partition size? [04:59] iggy19: the mount point of /home [04:59] seidos: explain? [05:00] iggy19: one partition, and / and /home are mounted in it [05:01] yes, that appears to be what I have. But why is less than the full partition size availible to /home? [05:01] and more to the point, how do I adjust that allocation [05:02] since they are on the same parition it's not going to be gparted thing (even if I trusted gparted to adjust parition sizes) [05:02] ah, that is strange... [05:02] i don't know, never had that problem [05:03] hmmmm..... [05:03] so the partition does have 15G free, partitioned, and formatted? [05:03] Yes, LVM-->dm-crypt [05:03] crypted home on top of that [05:04] df reports: /dev/mapper/Evolution-sysroot 19295524 4937384 13377968 27% / [05:05] and: /dev/mapper/Evolution-home 1967440 1867536 0 100% /home [05:05] if you're encrypting folders, i probably can't help you. maybe you can help me :) [05:06] some things I'm pretty solid in, others not so much. I've been using *nix on-and-off since the mid 90's, but there's a bunch I don't know. [05:07] If you have an encryption question, I can maybe acutally help [05:07] afk brb [05:11] back [05:15] seidos: gotta reboot back in a flash [05:15] i just started using it in 2009 [05:16] seidos: it=encryption? [05:16] iggy19: no, linux. well, in any seriousness anyway [05:16] i'll hold off on the reboot [05:16] oh, don't let me stop you, i'm going to be around [05:17] yeah, I'm not that serious. Too damn busy to learn it like should [05:17] you actually gave me an idea for a project [05:18] which is? [05:18] to set up a spare computer to play with [05:18] i had one running ubuntu, but i've been trying to save on electricity [05:19] perfect example of me being a noob despite years of using various flavors of *nix: firefox crashed, I force killed it, but the process is still running, and kill -9 won't kill it. Don't know how to fix that to allow me to restart FF w/o a reboot [05:19] cheap old laptop won't take too much juice [05:20] i have a "cheap old desktop" [05:20] so i would only leave it running when inspired to work/play on it [05:21] iggy19: kill -9 has always killed a process, as long as i use sudo [05:21] doh! [05:21] >_> [05:26] Actually, didn't work even w/ the proper sudo [05:27] hmmm [05:27] this may be a conversation best left for #ubuntu-beginners-team [05:28] asking in /freenode/#ubuntu w/o any luck so far [05:28] the gparted stuff or kill -9 ? [05:28] kill -9 [05:29] was going to browse some more on the /home stuff before I can even coherently parse a non-noob question about my home directory issues [05:30] i wouldn't even know how to define "beginner" let alone "noob" [05:31] If I can't formulate the question clearly, I figure it belongs in -beginners [05:31] lol [05:31] seidos: I can do that...haha [05:31] iggy19: what is your question? [05:31] mysteriousdarren - many of them today - finally sat down to try to solve some things I've been ignoring. [05:32] iggy19: well if I can help I will or point you in the right direction. [05:32] At the very present moment two: 1) sudo kill -9 does not appear to kill the firefox-bin process [05:33] and 2) how do I resize my /home on a LVM-->dmcrypt partition? [05:33] mysteriousdarren: thank you! [05:34] iggy19: well lets start with the first one......LVM virtualized you mean? [05:34] iggy19: I would ask the other question in #ubuntu-mozillateam [05:35] iggy19: Do you have to kill it via commandline? [05:37] about the browser: it stalled/crashed, I chose right-click close, then chose force-quit from the dialog box. Restsarting FF tells me it is still running and I need to quit the previous instance before restarting. ps confirms it is running. Kill fails. [05:38] iggy19: you don't have a system monitor or task manager? I get tired of remembering every process and just install one of those to kill things [05:39] Hmmm... yes [05:40] system monitor lists the ff process as "Uninterruptible" [05:40] mysteriousdarren: ps will do it, it lists processes in cli [05:40] iggy19: what version of ff? [05:41] iggy19: did you try it anyway? [05:41] seidos: ps? [05:42] mysteriousdarren: well, ps aux does [05:43] iggy: oh you mean ps -C PROCESS? [05:44] sorry that was meant for seidos [05:46] seido: not sure, one or two before the current one [05:47] iggy19: did that work? there are many more users in #ubuntu too, alot of them have at least a couple years on me [05:47] mysteriousdarren: I'm geting advice on #ubuntu currently [05:47] trying to learn something before I solve this [05:47] iggy19: ok good. [06:23] mysteriousdarren: figured it's probably due to failed disk write, but no idea how to actually kill the process w/o a reboot. System going down now. BRB. === forestpiskie is now known as hobgoblin === udienz_ is now known as udienz [10:13] hola amigo [10:13] s [10:14] vozdra komsijo [10:14] en english [10:15] enough of that hows everyone doing this morning [14:14] hello there I am having some massive troubles getting wine installed I have tried from ubuntu software center ,synaptic,apt-get install , could some one please help me. after install there is no .wine folder under ~ [14:18] nm guys and girls I got some one helped on the ubuntu channel [14:18] I needed to configure it :>) lol === udienz_ is now known as udienz [15:25] bgs100: yo man. really really long time no speak between us [15:30] I have just installed Ubuntu 11.10 on a completely new Lenovo workstation with preinstalled Windows 7. I chose to install Ubuntu side-by-side with Windows. However, when restarting after install, it just boots Windows. Not Ubuntu. I figure this has something to do with EFI or something. How do I fix this? [15:31] tdn_: you sure that ubuntu is installed to the system? [15:33] tdn_: regarldess see here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling_GRUB2 [15:35] tdn_: once you have the livecd/usb booted - open a terminal and run sudo fdisk -l [15:35] should be linux partitions showing as well as win ones [15:35] stlsaint, well, it went all the way thrrough the installer and copied lots of files to hdd. It said that it was installed ... [15:35] see link [15:35] hobgoblin, fdisk and gparted shows linux partitikons [15:35] stlsaint, I am there. [15:35] that's good then [15:36] tdn_: than you just need to reinstall grub2 than [15:37] unless it is this uefi stuff [15:37] I am pretty sure this is efi/uefi. [15:38] I tried dmesg | grep EFI and it gives me lots of lines. [15:38] dmesg from the livecd is that [15:38] hobgoblin, yes, dmesg is from livecd. Cannot boot the installed Ubuntu. [15:39] you looked on the forum at all [15:39] hobgoblin, yes, lots. I see no clear solution. [15:39] stlsaint, the URL you posted tells me to run boot-repair program. I did, but it says that efi or uefi detected. [15:40] i thought that was on windows 8 only? that what you running? [15:40] stlsaint, win 7 [15:41] go into bios and turn it off [15:41] stlsaint, I went to bios setup. Could not find anything on EFI. [15:42] it has to be able to be turned off. Google your make/model and "turn off EFI" [15:42] http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11549005&postcount=7 [15:42] tdn_: did you see this one ^^ [15:43] but as stlsaint says you should be able to turn it off [15:43] I just tried googling lenovo thinkcentre "turn off efi", it gives nothing. [15:46] is efi the proper term for it? [15:46] tdn_: do you not have the manual for it ? [15:50] very little on research of it but all have the option to turn off. Maybe dig abit more around in bios or check your POST key options [15:51] hobgoblin, yes [15:51] I assume you read it then :) [15:52] it's not something I have an experience with I'm afraid - likely to be years till I do - I run old machines [15:52] might be worth posting on the forum [16:05] hobgoblin, cannot see anything about this in manual. What to look for? [16:07] well I'd be looking for uefi or efi - or security or somesuch - probably I'd go into the bios or whatever and look for things [16:08] the other thing you might have is an option when you boot to choose [16:08] no idea really without seeing the manual or having a number to search for [16:14] hobgoblin, security? [16:16] There is almost no usable info in the manual. [16:16] It is about 25 pages but in 20 languages or so. [16:16] It is just safety and warranty information. [16:21] mmm ok - try this then - are you still in the livecd [16:25] tdn_: ^^ if you are open a terminal - run this command and then paste the whole lot to paste.ubuntu.com and give us the url once you have put a name and entered [16:25] sudo dmidecode [16:27] hm, maybe pastebinit will be easier then hobgoblin ? :) === yofel_ is now known as yofel [16:27] sudo dmidecode | pastebinit (if the pastebinit command is installed) [16:27] if it's installed Snicksie ;) [16:27] yeah, that was on the end of my sentence :D [16:27] :) [16:27] I Was typing and sending [16:28] Snicksie: this is not installed by default [16:28] Snicksie: on live cd that is [16:28] Snicksie: sorry not wanting to cause confusion so i will rephrase: pastebinit is not default on live cd [16:29] yay for xubuntu then :D [16:29] wait what?? lol!? what did xubuntu do?? [16:29] have pastebinit installed :) [16:29] hobgoblin: oh haha [16:30] I know stlsaint :) [16:30] yea it really is great to have and has very few depends [16:34] hobgoblin, which command? [16:34] hobgoblin, oh, dmidecode. One moment. [16:36] :) [16:42] http://p.adora.dk/P2274.html [16:42] dmidecode ^ [16:42] hobgoblin, does that help? [16:43] no idea yet - give me a chance :) [16:43] hobgoblin, sure :) [16:45] gonna be a while tdn_ - trying to track down the motherboard manual [16:45] hobgoblin, cool. [16:47] tdn_: what is it - laptop pc ... [16:47] hobgoblin, nope. Lenovo ThinkCentre Edge [17:01] tdn_: can't find much at all about it - but I think if you reboot it and press F1 you should eventually get into the system setup - have a look in there - write things down if necessary then ask [17:01] sorry I can't be of much more help [17:05] might even be worth phoning lenovo [17:07] hobgoblin, I have already looked in bios set up. [17:07] hobgoblin, could not find anything about EFI [17:07] k [17:07] try a thread in the forum perhaps - you could try #ubuntu - you coudl try a call to them in your country [17:08] another thought - pastebin that dmesg first - lets have a look at that [17:08] grasping at straws a bit though [17:09] hobgoblin, I have tried in #ubuntu, it seems unresponsive :( [17:09] k [17:09] On this subject at least. [17:09] Will find dmesg now. [17:10] http://paste.adora.dk/P2275.txt [17:10] hobgoblin, dmesg [17:10] ^ [17:15] k - nothing jumping at me there - sorry [17:15] hobgoblin, :( [17:16] I'd be inclined to trying the forum - plenty of people there with knowledge - if you do then go to here and get that information for the thread - http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ [17:16] people have got it running ok - might need a bit of fiddling about [17:17] tdn_: good luck - but I have to go afk for a while now [17:19] http://paste.adora.dk/P2276.html <- fdisk -l [17:20] hobgoblin, thanks. [17:25] http://paste.adora.dk/P2277.html output from bootinfo script [17:30] hey all [17:31] i'm not clearly remembering how I set up this system. [17:32] I have a dm-crypt partition, that hosts / and /home [17:32] mount lists /dev/mapper/Evolution-sysroot on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro,commit=600) and /dev/mapper/Evolution-home on /home type ext3 (rw,commit=600) [17:33] can someone explain what I did during setup? [17:33] lol huh? [17:34] you did not want this setup? [17:34] No I do, I just need to understand better how I set it up so I can ask my next question, which is about resizing encrypted home [17:35] if you used trucrypt i would suggest taking a gander at their site. i personally do not use it [17:36] I do use TC, but this is not it. This is dm-crypt [17:36] even worse mate, i truly have no idea on that one [17:36] The whole partition is dm-crypt on LVM [17:36] your trying to resize a encryped LVM?? [17:37] No, I'm trying to resize the encrypted user (Evo) home on top of the dm-crypt partition [17:37] tdn_: hi - thanks for that - but I'm not able to help anymore with this issue - just be wasting your time - use that information for any thread you might start on the forum [17:37] you might also try askubuntu.com [17:37] iggy19: which is lvm? [17:38] My question right now is how device mapper works. That is, what is going on that allows me to have both / and /home on the same physical partition (sda5) [17:39] stlsaint: sda5 is LVM w/ dm-crypt on top of it, / and /home are mounted on sda5 and /home/Evo is crypted on top of all that [17:40] and you want to make evo larger? I would suggest removing the encryption then resize then encrpt [17:40] Gotta run now. Excited to look at scrollback when I return. If nothing, I'll take this to #ubuntu [17:41] tdn_: one more - from what I can see from the bootinfo and askubuntu it would have set it up for uefi if it was there - when you boot do you have an F key option for boot devices? [17:42] stlsaint: I need to understand how device mapper allows two mount points on one paritition and how it controls the size of each before I can be sure if what you suggest is actually what I want to do? [17:42] TTFN! [17:43] ok [18:34] hobgoblin, no, I do not beleive I do have an F option. Where would it be? It just boots Windows 7 immidieately. [18:34] it'd be when you boot - if not then I really don't have anything else :( [18:36] should be F12 apparently [18:39] you could try hitting shift when it boots - can always hope [18:46] see if grub is theree - but I'm doubtful === forestpiskie is now known as hobgoblin === benonsoftware is now known as OutOfControl [22:23] iggy19, do you run phys partitions > lvm > lvs > dm-crypt?