[11:58] <alourie|laptop> hello
[11:58] <alourie|laptop> how can I debug the kernel panic in 12.04?
[12:00] <alourie|laptop> it'
[12:01] <alourie|laptop> s been crashing for some time
[16:57] <karcel> About Sun-Java. Yesterday there was an update and now one big java based internet bank (Sampo pankki / Danske Bank) is not working, kind of again. The BIG problem is that today there is a huge price of 27 000 000 euros in nordic lottery and one can play it only by java based internet bank!
[17:04] <jtaylor> complain to oracle, we aren't allowed to distrubute it anymore
[17:08] <karcel> jtaylor: Yeah, I will do that. The most important part of the problem is that Danske Bank / Sampo pankki does not support openjdk, or something like that.
[17:10] <jtaylor> you can still isntall sun-java yourself
[17:10] <jtaylor> by loading it from their site
[17:10] <penguin42> karcel: Have you tried it with both openjdk 6 and 7 ?
[17:11] <karcel> penguin42: oh, yes. You can try it also: https://verkkopankki.sampopankki.fi/h
[17:12] <penguin42> jtaylor: What's the bug policy - is it a bug in openjdk if it doesn't work with something where sun-jdk does? I guess it's 50/50 if it's openjdk or the websites fault
[17:12] <jtaylor> depends, I assume sone applets will just error out when they see something else than sun-java, even when openjdk would work too
[17:18] <penguin42> yeh I guess there may be some miswritten/spiteful version checks - I wonder if it can lie