[00:11] Hah, that's awesome. [00:17] Pretty sure this isn't Jaco Pastorious: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9058804/jaco.png [01:54] evening [01:56] evening [02:29] <_stink_> yo [02:33] yo [03:55] yo [12:22] morning [12:59] http://hipstergrammers.tumblr.com [13:15] yea, was checking that out last night. Funny stuff [13:41] http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/127263/how-to-enable-proxy-python [13:47] is it normal dbus-daemon to be using 500MB of RAM? [13:51] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/295741 [13:51] Define "normal" [13:54] Google indicates it's fairly "normal" for people to complain about dbus memory leaks [13:57] heh, awesome [13:57] Least insightful answer ever: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=91455 [13:57] Blazeix: snap-l widox_ reminder CHC is early edition tonight 7pm [14:06] Geez... skip a couple CHC's and they drop you off the reminder list [14:07] s/a couple/all/ [14:09] aparently restarting dbus makes some things not happy [14:10] Wolfger: a couple? :P [14:10] yea, I try to be inclusive, but I do give up after a while [14:12] rick_h__: don't blame you [14:16] smoser: http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/nrtlf/i_created_an_opensource_alternative_to/ [14:35] Good morning [14:38] Good morning [14:58] How's the morning so far? [14:58] ok [14:58] roof guys just showed up to start the process of a new roof [14:58] so i'm glad there is no snow [15:01] Yeah, that's a good thing [15:01] we got snow pretty much all day yesterday, but it didn't stick. [15:01] (thankfully) [15:32] Anbody want the shittiest VB book? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0136060722/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=decafbadnet-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0136060722 [15:33] ooooh, only $0.16 [15:33] I'll send it to you for free [15:34] isn't it pointless to sell for less than like $2.30 because of fees? [15:34] brousch: Well, they take it out of the shipping credt [15:36] i think when i last sold on there i determined that if i sold at $2.30 i would end up with $1 [15:36] hardly worth the hassle of boxing it up and shipping [15:36] less than minimum wage [15:37] Yeah, at that point you're just aiming to get it out of the house [15:37] honestly, anything that I put up on Amazon is just gravy [15:37] i can get it out of the house by dropping it off at the goodwill [15:38] Well, JoDee is going to take it to OU, with a note [15:39] I'm sorry you have to take this abortion of a class. Here's the abortion of a book to go with it with my compliments. [15:45] * ColonelPanic001 kills krunner [15:46] kworker, sorry [15:46] too much kde for me [16:12] killing kworkers is frowned upon by management [16:25] Coders at Work is $10 eBook today. [16:25] HIGHLY recommended. [16:25] http://www.apress.com/dailydeals/index/view/id/50/url/aHR0cDovL3d3dy5hcHJlc3MuY29tLzk3ODE0MzAyMTk0ODQ/ [16:27] No Larry Wall? -- [16:27] Eh? [16:27] "15 of the most interesting computer programmers alive today" [16:28] Larry Wall has got to be on that list [16:28] unless he passed away and I didn't know [16:30] well it's official. this ancient p3 can run xubuntu with 256M of RAM [16:30] I think they had enough curmudgeonly programmers with the JWZ interview that they wanted to give some more positive spin on the profession. ;) [16:30] sweet [16:30] however it struggled with youtube because of the animated ads [16:31] snap-l: curmudgeonly? I never thought so... [16:33] but, uh, it's Founders at work for $10, not Coders at Work [16:33] unless I'm reading that page wrong. [16:33] Wolfger: I think you're seriously reading that wrong. [16:34] Either that, or they're giving you another deal. [16:35] Huh. I closed the tab and reopened it, and now it's Coders at Work for $10 [16:37] hah, chrome w/ adblock can play youtube OK as long as you don't move the mouse [16:41] krondor: you use xbmc? [16:41] brousch: Aye, I'm a huge xbmc addict for a long time now [16:41] i'm looking for a media center program for a big workstation i acquired [16:42] was going to try boxee, but they just announced that they are cutting off linux version [16:43] you just slap it on ubuntu 11.10? [16:43] yeah I'm running it on ubuntu 11.10 and a jailbroke atv2 (which I wouldn't recommend) [16:44] i don't care about the TV tuner part, i mostly just want to server music and stored videos [16:45] if you liked boxee you'll like xbmc, but maybe you'll miss the social features [16:45] I never used them in boxee [16:45] bleh, social [16:45] channels would be nice, but aren't strictly needed [16:45] like netlfix, hulu, etc [16:46] this damn thing has 8 cores and 5x750MB drives [16:46] mythtv has increasingly good support for xbmc as a frontend, but I haven't used a dvr (or myth) in some time [16:48] there are plugins for hulu/netflix in xbmc, but netflix needs windows not linux (damn silverlight) [16:48] that's ok, i use the wii now [16:49] what, moonlight doesn't work? ;-) [16:49] or my chromebook or my nookcolor [16:49] Wolfger: Moonlight doesn't include the DRM support required or Netflix. [16:49] there is an amazon prime video plugin for xbmc though that does work in linux, but it's kind of beta [16:49] party everyone [16:49] krondor: 7pm CHC tonight if you're bored [16:50] hope to be there :) [16:51] awesome [16:51] brousch: best thing about xbmc over boxee is the mysql backend for synchronized media data [16:51] lifehacker had a good writeup http://lifehacker.com/5634515/how-to-synchronize-your-xbmc-media-center-across-every-room-in-the-house [16:53] an, so i can install the client on my laptop and still view stuff from my server? [16:54] heh, article also links 2 others i need to read [16:55] brousch: yeah, the xbmc wiki is nice too. well maintained particularly the advanced settings.xml functions. [18:06] Just had my little niece over here [18:06] nice [18:06] Yeah, she's adorable [18:06] you can see her testing my bro-in-law [18:07] She was folding over and chewing on the carpet [18:08] and she was testinghim to see if he'd relent [18:09] heh, yea that's fun [18:09] we're getting the head butting on the floor once in a while [18:12] They'll definitely do everything in their power to test their boundaries [18:13] yea, Michael is officially 2 today. So I can finally say he's entered terrible two phase [18:13] You can see the little gears turn [18:13] he's been sick making it all the more fun the last two days [18:13] Ugh [18:13] two's are nothing [18:13] NOTHING [18:13] :P [18:13] brousch: Yeah, wait for the twrrible twenties. [18:15] threes [18:15] I was being sarcastic. ;) [18:17] ah yes threes, the twos now with improved calculation and motive [18:17] yea, when my bro was little I called it "terrible twos, terrifying threes, fearsome fours!" [18:18] fours aren't so bad so far [18:25] speaking only as an "uncle", 3 is the worst age [18:26] speaking of kids.... I'm going to spam you all now. :-) [18:27] My best friend recently published his first children's book, done completely on free software (Kubuntu, Gimp, etc) http://www.amazon.com/Zombielocks-Daniel-M-Pipe-II/dp/146642348X/ref=sr_1_1 [18:28] There's also a non-Amazon link for the Amazon haters. I'll dig it out if anybody wants it. [18:31] Interesting. [18:32] looks creepy [19:25] bah, looks like router wireless is gone...booo. Router reboots, works over wire, but wireless won't connect any more [19:25] * rick_h__ plays taps for the ole 54GL that's been running tomato for years now [19:29] I recommend Buffalo they're cheap and support DD-WRT ootb [19:30] yea, see their list [19:30] but the links don't match the search terms, strange [19:39] this is what I'm running; http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833162031 [19:44] hmm, but reading the reviews maybe you don't want that lol. Not a lot of good things said about the v2 model [19:49] I've been kicking around getting a faster router, but haven't as of yet because I love Tomato [20:18] yea, while I don't run a custom firmware on it, I do like my cisco/linksys N router I got a while back [20:18] thinking of just getting the replacement for that model [20:19] I don't tend to really do a ton with the router these days. I've got servers for all that stuff. Just port forward things you stupid router [20:20] http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001SEL36M/ref=wms_ohs_product is what I have for my "roku only" router [20:21] http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004T9RR7C/ref=wms_ohs_product is what I'm going to grab I think for the every day device use replacement [21:28] can ya'll see these photo galleries? https://picasaweb.google.com/102663141609195877664 [22:10] Hmm, not seeing much tomato support for N routers [22:17] + [22:22] Looking at the Tomato USB pages. [22:25] i'm disappointed in router firmwares. [22:25] openwrt, ddwrt, tomatousb all seem to have died IMO. [22:25] they stopped adding cool things. [22:25] I'm back to a "server" firewall. [22:26] Well, it seems that all of the firmware development hasn't really made it to the N routers [22:27] oh no, ddwrt supports lots of n routers. [22:27] and openwrt supports a good few. [22:27] Right, but tomato doesn't. [22:27] right. [22:27] and I like Tomato [22:27] tomatousb seems to have the least support. [22:27] i like tomoto teh best too. [22:28] although in principle i should like openwrt [22:28] but i find its difficult to use is so great it outweighs the principles of the matter. [22:39] Any opinions on the NETGEAR WNR3500L?