[02:25] <ScottL> aaaaaarrrrrggggghhhhhhh!
[02:25] <ScottL> micahg, i think you might be right....i probably should have tried to make the xubuntu-default-settings and -artwork packages fit into the existing ubuntu studio packages
[03:08] <knome> hey ScottL 
[03:09] <ScottL> hi knome 
[03:10] <knome> i think there were things i promised to do earlier with the US website, but i can't remember if there was something else than the automatic progressing on the "tabs" on front page. if you could get a mail together of the changes you want, i could look at them (hopefully) this week
[03:10] <ScottL> knome, i was hoping to address the website right after i got the -default-settings and -artwork straightened out
[03:10] <knome> sure, no problem
[03:10] <ScottL> which is sad because now i think i'm still another week away :/
[03:10] <knome> ah
[03:11] <knome> no problem from my side really
[03:11] <ScottL> i didn't focus on the whole problem and now i've wasted over a week
[03:11] <knome> starting to have some pressure on the xubuntu stuff too
[03:11] <knome> scheduling a whole day in january to fix and work on things
[03:13] <ScottL> yeah, i'm thinking about using this friday's holiday to do the same for the -default-settings and -artwork thing
[03:13]  * ScottL is currently putting up dishes and washing mroe
[03:13] <ScottL> mroe
[03:13] <ScottL> heh
[03:13] <ScottL> more
[03:13]  * knome is awy from pc from fri to sun
[03:14] <knome> err, away :P
[03:14] <ScottL> lol
[03:14] <knome> (it's 5am+)
[03:14] <stochastic> hey ScottL, I just got back from holiday vacation.  I noticed you pinged me a few times.  Skimming the backscroll now
[03:17] <knome> anyway, i'm off
[03:17] <knome> maybe see you tomorrow
[03:26] <ScottL> bye knome , go to sleep, friend ;)
[03:27] <ScottL> stochastic,  i haven't gotten things done like i had hoped and could greatly use your assistance on the seeds
[03:27] <ScottL> this is regards to updating the meta package for audio, graphics, and video
[03:28] <ScottL> i have some incidental updates to the desktop seeds that will need to be done, but these should probably be done when i complete the updates for the theming and UI
[03:37] <stochastic> okay I can try to dedicate some time to this,
[03:38] <stochastic> do you have the logs from the meeting where seeds were agreed upon?
[03:38] <stochastic> I can look them up if you don't know where they're at ScottL
[04:25] <ScottL> stochastic,  i don't have it right now
[04:26] <ScottL> !meeting
[04:26] <ScottL> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meetings
[04:26] <ScottL> probably the first or second on under 'past meetings'
[04:31] <stochastic> ScottL, sorry I've missed the last few set meetings, work&travel have gotten in the way
[04:32] <stochastic> should be able to make Jan 8th no problem
[05:26] <micahg> ScottL: you still can :)
[09:10] <astraljava> cyphermox: Sorry for the long hiatus. No, the router manages everything. It came from the ISP.
[12:04] <ScottL> micahg, i will
[12:04] <ScottL> my kids are going to my father's house today until the end of the weekend
[12:04] <ScottL> sadly i _just_ realized that i will have my evening extremely free until friday or saturday
[12:05] <ScottL> i'm going to do my own personal sprint and try to parse the xubuntu packages into the ubuntu studio ones then
[12:05] <ScottL> man, i just want to get this done and behind me :/
[12:05] <ScottL> stochastic, from memory i recall that we would keep the audio seeds the same (albeit we would do some tweaking of the packages contained)
[12:06] <ScottL> stochastic, we talked about having a video-home and a video-pro seed and both would need tweaking (or new) packages
[12:07] <ScottL> stochastic, and i'm still waiting (but i got information from one yesterday!) for input from a variety of sources for an improved graphics seed(s) and i can't even guess what we would need at this time
[12:07] <ScottL> hi astraljava , how are you :)
[12:07] <ScottL> good morning abogani :)
[12:09] <ScottL> hi falktx 
[12:11] <falktx> hey
[12:30] <falktx> ScottL: what's up?
[12:49]  * abogani waves all
[12:49] <abogani> ScottL: good mroning!
[13:10] <astraljava> ScottL: Hiya, better now. Trying to get back on track. Will talk later, gotta run now for a couple of hours.
[16:34] <len> ScottL: I know your busy so this is just a quick... I've started some docs you can see more on the mailing list when you have time. There is a main page with not much on it and two smaller pages that can be used as is.
[16:35] <len> The two smaller pages are about getting the best out of the cheap internal sound chip and about using dual monitors. If I don't hear anything for a week that is OK too.
[16:36] <len> I am trying to make the file size small enough it can be made into a package to be added to the DVD iso or added to a package we already have.
[16:36] <len> I will have to learn to make packages.
[16:49] <scott-work> hi len 
[16:49] <scott-work> i did see them and read some of it
[16:49] <scott-work> i planned to email you back to thank you for doing this :)
[16:50] <scott-work> len: holstein was suggesting using arandar (i think that is the spelling) for multi-head stuff
[16:51] <len> Yup That is what I documented.
[16:52] <len> ScottL it is actually ARandR
[16:52] <scott-work> i have it written down somewhere ;)  i couldn't remember it right now
[16:53] <scott-work> len: would you be interested in helping to document testing ISO's ?
[16:53] <len> I can try, what would you like me to do?
[16:54] <scott-work> whatever you would like to do :)
[16:54] <scott-work> i kid,  but i'm also serious
[16:54] <scott-work> we dont' really have anything properly documented at this point so we are kinda starting from scratch
[16:54] <scott-work> we probably need to have a discussion about what it means to test and what the goals are actually
[16:55] <scott-work> i'm not the final arbiter of these decisions, i think astraljava and probably stochastic have input as well
[16:55] <len> Well the testing page is pretty generic. And I won't know what to change till you finish the changes you are doing right now.
[16:56] <len> I have to know what the install will look like first.
[16:58] <len> I am guessing that any shipped docs should end up in /usr/share/ubuntustudio-doc
[16:58] <len> or something like that?
[17:02] <scott-work> len: xubuntu ships some docs and we will probably done similar, but they use yelp or something similar
[17:02] <scott-work> so maybe we should do like you suggest first before getting there
[17:02] <scott-work> len: but it would be extremely helpful even if you just document the way you test ISO's 
[17:03] <holstein> len: you're doing great work!
[17:04] <len> Ok, I will do that. and put up a web page. I will also drop it in the google docs directory.
[17:06] <len> Thank you holstein, I have been looking at packaging for them. The documentation for that assumes taking a source package and making a binary. I don't need all that, Just the files I have into a directory. Is there a minimum setup to do that?
[17:06] <holstein> len: i wish i could be more helpful...
[17:07] <len> I know meta packages can be made by hand pretty much, I may try that.
[17:10] <len> scott-work: looked at yelp. Not sure I want to go there.  Someone using US to record a jam or concert where there is no net connect may find docs in the system useful.
[17:11] <scott-work> len: as for what studio should look like, i hope to get the theming pushed before end of year, it will still need some tweaking but the bulk should be there
[17:12] <scott-work> len: xubuntu uses some type of documenation for help, thought it was yelp but it may not be, but that is a bridge that can be crossed later on
[17:12] <len> OK, I was thinking more about a live DVD. That would change everything. I can probably do an alt test proc assuming there will be meta packges like now.
[17:14] <len> My total doc setup right now is 28K. I don't expect it to grow that much as I have pretty much written what I know. I will be doing more external links for other stuff. Will try to sumarize it in place though.
[17:15] <len> exit
[17:15] <len> oops wrong window... sorry.
[17:40] <scott-work> len: good point about the live dvd, i keep forgetting that this will change testing :/
[17:40] <scott-work> yeah, we should just wait to work on the testing
[17:51] <len> OK. I have started anyway... up to the part about downloading and putting it on a memstick or DVD will be the same one way or the other.