[09:40] <czajkowski> maco: what pleia2 said, but the fact that thye were notified back in october and only noticed this week doesnt say a lot
[09:40] <czajkowski> :/
[13:49] <scott-work> good morning everyone :)
[13:49] <MrChrisDruif> Aloha scott-work
[13:49] <scott-work> how are you today, MrChrisDruif ?
[13:50] <MrChrisDruif> Yawning already...
[13:50] <MrChrisDruif> And I've got to work till midnight, which is about 9 hours from now
[13:51] <MrChrisDruif> You?
[13:51] <MrChrisDruif> I have to be at work in about an hour
[13:52] <scott-work> i'm at work myself, got here at 6:30 am, but i'm feeling good
[13:52] <scott-work> it's been very, very busy for a couple of months, especially during the last two weeks with people out on holiday/vacation
[13:52] <scott-work> but i feel like we are pushing through it right now, it's been a very production couple of weeks (maybe because people are out and leaving me alone ;) )
[13:52] <scott-work> i wish i could say i've been as productive on ubuntu studio though :(
[13:55] <MrChrisDruif> Haha, yeah..can't have it all ^_^
[15:23] <bkerensa> czajkowski: Your busy this morning :)
[15:27] <czajkowski> yes
[15:28] <czajkowski> 35 tickets just been replied to
[15:29] <bkerensa> :)
[15:45] <maco> czajkowski: dont think kevin's ever had a bug assigned to him before, just reports them (if that?)
[15:45] <maco> there certainly wasnt a mail to the list when the bug report happened, which i think is what would happen if it was assigned to the entire team
[15:47] <AlanBell> they only get assigned to the team contact and are private bugs (not entirely sure why that is tbh)
[15:49] <czajkowski> AlanBell: we explained that in lots of places in the past, to  stop the bug being spammed, we had to due to teams being added and then we get we're awesome
[15:49] <czajkowski> which kinda defeats the point of the bug we just want to be able to deal with some teams who cannot attend the meeting swiftly and easily
[15:50] <AlanBell> ok, I knew there would be a reason :)
[15:50] <czajkowski> we've even blogged it and written emails on it
[15:51] <czajkowski> teams can also see when they are due by looking on http://loco.ubuntu.com/loco-council/approved
[15:54] <maco> i know i didnt bother checking to see if we were on teh list since i thought it was 2 years apart
[15:54] <maco> and i thought we did it last year
[15:54] <maco> but then i still sometimes think hardy was last year so
[15:54] <maco> also probably because i dont really care anymore
[15:58] <maco> looking at the old reapproval wiki page for the team, it was 2010 last time we wrote an application so im a bit confused how dec 2011 is two years after january 2010 but oh well
[16:08] <bkerensa> =o
[16:08] <Pendulum> maco: so that the reapproval can happen before it's actually expired?
[16:09] <maco> Pendulum: but if the application was filled out in early 2010, then the actual meeting for reapproval wouldve been a bit later than that right, so why would our expiration be dec 31 2011, only a year and halfish after?
[16:10] <maco> april 2010 was our reapproval meeting
[16:10]  * Pendulum shrugs
[16:10] <Pendulum> it may also be done more by cycle than month
[16:10] <czajkowski> shall loook into it
[16:11] <czajkowski> again the team contact should have noticed this at least in october....
[16:11] <czajkowski> anyways
[16:12] <maco> (i actually dont really give a crap whether the team gets reapproved. as i said yesterday, its just free shit)
[16:12] <czajkowski> maco: ok
[16:13] <pangolin> maco: everything ok?
[16:13] <maco> sure
[16:14] <maco> ive just thought the whole approval thing was weird since it started
[16:14] <pangolin> I agree.
[16:15] <maco> this loco's older than the approval thing. afaik, it was one of the first
[16:16] <maco> but i would be unsurprised if it didnt get reapproved. as ubuntu gets worse, it gets deader
[16:18] <pangolin> I don't think it is getting deader, I think that the new users are not as interested in improving ubuntu, the community, and just want stuff to work magically.
[16:18] <pangolin> the old guard is not being supplemented/replaced.
[16:19] <pangolin> making many of us reach a point of "I don't give a crap"
[16:20] <Pendulum> pangolin: I think maco was talking about the loco specifically
[16:20] <Pendulum> althought I went to one of their meetups in May so they can't be completely dead
[16:20] <pangolin> right. but that boils over to the general community
[16:20] <pangolin> or maybe it boils over from the general to the loco
[16:21] <pangolin> not sure to be honest and not so interested anymore in figuring out why :(
[16:25] <maco> Pendulum: meetups tend to happen when someone needs key sigs to become a DD or DM
[16:25] <maco> between you being in town and some Debian cross-collaboration, a meetup was needed
[16:26] <maco> but if nothing needs to happen, it doesnt
[16:26] <maco> pangolin: i just want stuff to work now. i like my boyfriend's macbook pro.
[16:27] <maco> he can use netflix
[16:29] <pangolin> I hear you. I almost installed Windows the other night to get my camera to work.
[16:29] <pangolin> decided not to because I    don't want to do 12 hours of   updates.
[16:29] <pangolin> also my  space bar is acting crazy heh
[16:30] <Pendulum> I have seen enough linux geeks move to macos on the desktop in the last 4+ years that I'm starting to think someone should do a study on it...
[16:31] <maco> macbooks have really awesome power cords
[16:32] <maco> my boyfriend's laptop wouldve been on the ground SO many times if not for that cord
[20:01] <scott-work> hi czajkowski maco
[20:30] <jussi> nice that people in here were so super positive today </sarcasm>
[20:31]  * pleia2 hugs jussi 
[20:32] <jussi> thanks, needed that
[20:32] <pleia2> :)