=== ashams_ is now known as ashams === bkerensa is now known as hypodermic === hypodermic is now known as bkerensa === ejat- is now known as ejat [09:40] maco: what pleia2 said, but the fact that thye were notified back in october and only noticed this week doesnt say a lot [09:40] :/ [13:49] good morning everyone :) [13:49] Aloha scott-work [13:49] how are you today, MrChrisDruif ? [13:50] Yawning already... [13:50] And I've got to work till midnight, which is about 9 hours from now [13:51] You? [13:51] I have to be at work in about an hour [13:52] i'm at work myself, got here at 6:30 am, but i'm feeling good [13:52] it's been very, very busy for a couple of months, especially during the last two weeks with people out on holiday/vacation [13:52] but i feel like we are pushing through it right now, it's been a very production couple of weeks (maybe because people are out and leaving me alone ;) ) [13:52] i wish i could say i've been as productive on ubuntu studio though :( [13:55] Haha, yeah..can't have it all ^_^ [15:23] czajkowski: Your busy this morning :) [15:27] yes [15:28] 35 tickets just been replied to [15:29] :) [15:45] czajkowski: dont think kevin's ever had a bug assigned to him before, just reports them (if that?) [15:45] there certainly wasnt a mail to the list when the bug report happened, which i think is what would happen if it was assigned to the entire team [15:47] they only get assigned to the team contact and are private bugs (not entirely sure why that is tbh) [15:49] AlanBell: we explained that in lots of places in the past, to stop the bug being spammed, we had to due to teams being added and then we get we're awesome [15:49] which kinda defeats the point of the bug we just want to be able to deal with some teams who cannot attend the meeting swiftly and easily [15:50] ok, I knew there would be a reason :) [15:50] we've even blogged it and written emails on it [15:51] teams can also see when they are due by looking on http://loco.ubuntu.com/loco-council/approved [15:54] i know i didnt bother checking to see if we were on teh list since i thought it was 2 years apart [15:54] and i thought we did it last year [15:54] but then i still sometimes think hardy was last year so [15:54] also probably because i dont really care anymore [15:58] looking at the old reapproval wiki page for the team, it was 2010 last time we wrote an application so im a bit confused how dec 2011 is two years after january 2010 but oh well [16:08] =o [16:08] maco: so that the reapproval can happen before it's actually expired? [16:09] Pendulum: but if the application was filled out in early 2010, then the actual meeting for reapproval wouldve been a bit later than that right, so why would our expiration be dec 31 2011, only a year and halfish after? [16:10] april 2010 was our reapproval meeting [16:10] * Pendulum shrugs [16:10] it may also be done more by cycle than month [16:10] shall loook into it [16:11] again the team contact should have noticed this at least in october.... [16:11] anyways [16:12] (i actually dont really give a crap whether the team gets reapproved. as i said yesterday, its just free shit) [16:12] maco: ok [16:13] maco: everything ok? [16:13] sure [16:14] ive just thought the whole approval thing was weird since it started [16:14] I agree. [16:15] this loco's older than the approval thing. afaik, it was one of the first [16:16] but i would be unsurprised if it didnt get reapproved. as ubuntu gets worse, it gets deader [16:18] I don't think it is getting deader, I think that the new users are not as interested in improving ubuntu, the community, and just want stuff to work magically. [16:18] the old guard is not being supplemented/replaced. [16:19] making many of us reach a point of "I don't give a crap" [16:20] pangolin: I think maco was talking about the loco specifically [16:20] althought I went to one of their meetups in May so they can't be completely dead [16:20] right. but that boils over to the general community [16:20] or maybe it boils over from the general to the loco [16:21] not sure to be honest and not so interested anymore in figuring out why :( [16:25] Pendulum: meetups tend to happen when someone needs key sigs to become a DD or DM [16:25] between you being in town and some Debian cross-collaboration, a meetup was needed [16:26] but if nothing needs to happen, it doesnt [16:26] pangolin: i just want stuff to work now. i like my boyfriend's macbook pro. [16:27] he can use netflix [16:29] I hear you. I almost installed Windows the other night to get my camera to work. [16:29] decided not to because I don't want to do 12 hours of updates. [16:29] also my space bar is acting crazy heh [16:30] I have seen enough linux geeks move to macos on the desktop in the last 4+ years that I'm starting to think someone should do a study on it... [16:31] macbooks have really awesome power cords [16:32] my boyfriend's laptop wouldve been on the ground SO many times if not for that cord [20:01] hi czajkowski maco [20:30] nice that people in here were so super positive today [20:31] * pleia2 hugs jussi [20:32] thanks, needed that [20:32] :)