[12:55] <seiflotfy> hey guys
[12:55] <seiflotfy> any1 got a moment
[12:55] <seiflotfy> what is the widget that pops up when installing something in synaptic?
[14:09] <GunnarHj> Anybody who can sponsor an upload to oneiric-proposed? It's bug #909256.
[14:09] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 909256 in language-selector "gnome-language-selector crashed with ValueError in _build_localename(): too many values to unpack" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/909256
[14:15] <cyphermox> seiflotfy: if you didn't find it yet, something in gtk/rgprogress*.c, IIRC
[16:49] <BigWhale> what is used for generating API documentation in python?
[16:50] <BigWhale> what is the 'ubuntu standard'?
[17:16] <dobey> BigWhale: there isn't an "ubuntu standard" for that i think
[17:16] <dobey> BigWhale: you put api documention in the docstrings in your library, and running "pydoc foo.Bar" for example, gives you the documentation from the library
[17:17] <BigWhale> Well, it should be. So that people like me aren't confused.
[17:17] <BigWhale> I'll use Sphinx since it was used to build python docs ...
[17:18] <BigWhale> dobey, pydoc sucks... it doesn't have any special markup for parameters and returns
[17:18] <BigWhale> and such
[17:18] <dobey> python is generally quite horrible with regards to documentation
[17:19] <dobey> BigWhale: looks like we used Sphinx to generate the u1db preview docs, so i guess you should use that to generate html
[17:21] <BigWhale> well for now I'll just document things, then I might generate html ... I just want my code to look neat and I use sphinx at work.
[17:24] <dobey> ok
[18:57] <psusi> does anyone here actually notice a difference in the desktop from the "magic one line patch", aka auto cgroups?
[19:49] <BigWhale> To get list of audio devices from PulseAudio in python you have to write a ctypes wrapper around libpulse ... *facepalm*
[19:51] <dobey> BigWhale: use introspection
[19:51] <dobey> BigWhale: Gst appears to be introspected, though not sure how good the bindings work in python for it
[19:52] <BigWhale> gst has python bindings so I am using that.
[19:52] <BigWhale> b ut gst is crappy when you want to get a list of audio devices
[19:53] <BigWhale> so it was either running command line tools and parsing the output or writing somekind of wrapper
[19:54] <BigWhale> at the end introspection and ctypes is roughly the same and the lack of documentation in both is frustrating. the latter is a little better documented and there are few examples floating around the web
[19:56] <BigWhale> now I need to wind down :>