=== gary_ is now known as Guest49646 [01:09] I assume if a TF2 server (Single threaded application) eats an entire core of an i7 860 @ 2.8ghz, it's not gonna survive at all on a Xeon 5620 2.4ghz, right? [01:09] the i7 kinda struggles, I see little periods where the server isn't running optimally on rare occasions, it's right on the edge. [01:11] Azelphur: Well, I think the 5620 has a bigger cache - so who knows? [01:13] penguin42: *shrug* [01:18] aren't Xeons a different architecture? [01:18] I'd imagine so, rather difficult to compare [01:19] Seeker`: Memory system is, but cores are the same - although a bit out of step with which core is which xeon [02:08] Azelphur: the i7 will 'turbo' up to 3.46 GHz for a single threaded app though won't it. [02:11] not much use if using all cores though :/ [02:12] true [02:13] yea, I'm using 4 of the single threaded application [02:13] so it shouldn't turbo very much [02:14] I might be saved again though, my friend that works at choopa is hooking me up with some very, very shiny things. [02:24] what's the calendar support for the ical format like? I run an apartments business and need to sync to calendars with a very regular update rate? pretty much the only thing i need to confirm before i make the switch :) [02:28] be worth finding someone who's used it a bit more recently, but I've never had any problem with evolution or mozilla sunbird [02:28] ical's format is pretty much the standard now, so google calendar & such all export with ics too [02:29] (also be worth trying at not-2.30am ;) [02:29] LOL [02:29] thanks shauno [02:30] wasn't really expecting much of a response at this tiem [02:30] but [02:30] worth the post [02:30] cheers :) [02:30] I've used sunbird with ical calendars recently, but on windows; and evolution about 5 years ago. no complaints [02:31] sunbird was ok, i just prefer to stick with OS bundled software for the most part - downloading lots of different software for individual tasks annoy me for some reason [02:32] do you know if support for dual monitors has been made easier in recent versions? it used to be a pain to do it each time - rather than it automatically recognising and then showign the second screen automatically - which is something i really like in windows (lazy, but it's enough of an issue to be a factor) [02:33] heh, if Azelphur is wake (and he usually is), he'd be able to point you better on that one [02:33] oO, questions for me [02:33] * Azelphur reads [02:33] LOL [02:33] calendar stuff? I don't know too much o.O [02:33] ubuntu community - love it, best part of ubuntu [02:33] i think the dual monitors was aimed at you [02:33] Azelphur: nah, the last one, dual-head [02:33] oh, dual head that's totally my department :D [02:34] i use two [02:34] Yes, dual head support has been made much better [02:34] a standard vga monitor - for general work [02:34] and a big tv via hdmi for media [02:34] especially on the ATI open source drivers, they are quite literally zero config plug and play [02:34] think my card is nvdia [02:34] You should be able to configure that very easily using nvidia-settings [02:35] is there a way of getting it to read automatically and run the dualboot when i plug in - a la windows? [02:35] So when you plug the hdmi in, it automatically enables it? [02:35] yeah, or the vga cable [02:35] it's a small task i know [02:35] I'm not sure how you'd do the detection of the plugging in [02:35] but you could probably make a desktop icon for it easily [02:35] but it was enough of a pain that it was one of the reasons i went back to windows [02:36] (IE plug in, press desktop icon button, done) [02:36] hmm, i don't mind a desktop icon/keystroke shortcut - just the whole shebang used to drive me nuts - as i'm constantly moving about and unplugging/plugging [02:37] how does windows recognise it automatically - is there a way to duplicate that? [02:37] if not - the icon/keystroke is more than fine - i can work with that easily [02:40] supermanintights: I have no idea [02:40] that's why I don't know how to duplicate it [02:40] :P [02:40] :P [02:40] but yes, icon/keystroke should be entirely possible (nvidia-settings has lots of shiny command line options) [02:41] * hamitron wishes he could get it working in windows [02:41] ;) [02:41] awesome - you've pretty much sold my last line of concerns about ubuntu [02:41] get what working hamitron? [02:41] multi-monitor [02:42] plug in and go? [02:42] works for me [02:42] if I turn one off, it needs to be re-detected each time [02:42] really? that's unusual [02:42] let me look for this software that was really advanced for dual screens [02:42] annoying, but I now know how to do it [02:42] http://www.realtimesoft.com/ultramon/ [02:42] but be better if it just worked [02:43] (probably about to be kicked for discussing the enemy, but people helped me - if i can help back, i'll do it) [02:44] hehe, ty [02:44] what file system should i format my usb stick to install ubuntu? i'm running a hackintosh (so osx snow leopard) [02:45] I only use a 2nd screen, because I am too lazy to unclamp my racing wheel for the desk.... so just move position [02:45] from* [03:00] supermanintights: btw, I'm a quad (sort of technically hex) screen user [03:00] hehe [03:01] fml [03:01] how did you do that? [03:01] i can never get more than 1 extra screen running [03:01] with great difficulty, once you get beyond dual it becomes a bit of a nightmare [03:01] hehe [03:02] do you need special hardware/software? or just spend time configuring?" [03:02] I have a dual X screen setup, it's sort of like having 2 separate dual screen computers, I can't drag windows between them, they have their own instance of everything (panels, etc) and are almost entirely independent [03:03] hmm [03:03] if I rotate the compiz cube, it'll only rotate it on 2 of the 4 screens [03:03] is that useful then? [03:03] it's not special no, I have a GTX 570 which I do my gaming on, and a 8800GT which I just use to drive the other monitors for desktop purposes [03:03] surely being able to run all 4/5 screens in one running and interact would be better? [03:03] yes, but that's not possible unfortunately [03:03] least it looks cool with the chicks right? :P [03:04] well, it's sort of possible, you just take a massive performance hit and get no compiz which makes it suck [03:04] supermanintights: haha, totally ;) [03:04] really? i've seen my friend do it with 3 screens - got triplehead hardware or something [03:04] supermanintights: you'll probably find that was on ATI [03:04] but he uses a macpro [03:04] macbook pro i mean [03:04] the macs typically ship with ATI's [03:04] so that adds up. [03:04] yeah [03:05] all the stuff about my laptop suggests it's ATI [03:05] but when i was running windows - it only seemed to register NVIDIA [03:05] so i don't know what mine is, assume nvidia but megh [03:05] meh [03:05] My dream is that one day nvidia will get their shit into gear, and compiz will sort out per-screen compiz cube [03:05] then I'll be a happy camper. [03:05] :P [03:05] "I have a dream" [03:06] indeed haha [03:06] supermanintights: if your laptops got Ubuntu on it, just run lspci | grep VGA in a terminal, it'll tell ya what card(s) it has [03:06] i'm on OSX at the moment === ian__ is now known as ian_qub [03:06] if your lucky that may even work on OSX [03:06] and lspci didn't work before [03:06] fair enough :p [03:07] i only went to OSX because all my friends use macbook pro, and paid lots of money [03:07] it was a big **** you to them raving on about it, and how worth every penny it was [03:07] never hated an OS more, and that includes Vista [03:08] haha [03:10] can linux read the OSX filesystem? [03:10] ye [03:10] +s [03:10] OS extended - journaled? [03:10] should be fine [03:10] hmm [03:10] interesting [03:10] (I don't actually know, it's just that Linux seems to read everything, so just assume yes) [03:10] haha [03:11] i think it'll be a moot point [03:11] unless i want to install to cd which i really cba doing [03:11] meh [03:11] :) [03:13] how come you're still awake at this hour? [03:13] not that i'm complaining [03:13] you've been a huge help [03:13] I'm nocturnal [03:13] :D [03:13] but still :P [03:13] yeah, i am, don't want to be - people are making morning plans [03:13] i'm still awake now [03:14] and feel like if i had to stay awake until 8am - it's not a big deal [03:15] screw it, i'll do all the swapping over tomorrow [03:15] haha [03:15] or else i really will be working on this all night, which isn't a good thing [03:15] yea, I've been staying up till like 8 recently [03:15] I try not to, but I've been dealing with datacenter issues and my datacenter is in NJ [03:15] time zones \o/ [03:15] normally it's a not a problem, it's when friends make morning plans now i'm back home for xmas that's the problem [03:15] :P [03:15] haha [03:15] know the feeling [03:16] finding out about scheduled SMS and scheduled emails have been a life saver for me [03:17] wat is PMOS?? [03:18] http://www.americanmicrosemi.com/information/spec/?ss_pn=UPD552C [03:18] :S [03:19] ali1234: you havn't heard this one yet, your gonna love it [03:19] ali1234: minecraft is bringing down switches in my datacenter (sort of) [03:19] it does that [03:19] haha [03:19] plays hell with packet shapers too [03:27] guess that doesn't surprise you too much then :p [03:27] i suspect the switch is really a packet shaper [03:28] ali1234: perhaps, it's getting screwed over continually by small 100mbit DDoS attacks [03:29] my host also informed me that they are dealing with these small 100mbit DDoS attacks by instantly terminating the service of any of the victims [03:29] which is...not so good, I'm running away :p [03:32] man i hate searching for data sheets [06:46] crap, jet lagged ... woke up at 4:30 AM :/ [06:53] Trying to add firewall rules from my phone at 7am .. Not my finest feat in forethought [06:54] heh [09:36] shauno: do not sit on the branch you are cutting with the chainsaw [09:40] aloha [09:43] hi czajkowski [09:44] AlanBell: *waves* [09:46] christel was suggesting drinkies in Farnham this year sometime, which realisticaly means tonight or tomorrow [09:46] we're off visiting both nights [09:47] I am also smothered with a cold [09:47] :( [09:47] oh well, there is always next year [09:47] how is the new place? [09:47] this is true [09:47] nice [09:47] try9ing to navigate via boxes [09:48] it;s a fully furnished place [09:48] and has a lot of stuff so trying to box it away and take out our stuff [09:49] it's a bit like using Unity after getting used to Gnome2 [09:50] * AlanBell sends round the analogy police [09:52] MartijnVdS: eh no [09:52] new year folks stiop giving out about unity :) [09:52] czajkowski: is it like using Gnome Shell after getting used to Unity then? [09:53] like using emacs when you are used to vi [09:53] AlanBell: congrats on IRCC [09:53] * AlanBell just uses nano and gedit [09:54] thanks czajkowski === webpigeon is now known as Guest72788 [10:01] popey: TheOpenSourcerer: up for a few beers in Farnham? [10:18] Good moaning [10:20] * christel grmbles [10:20] i have water EVERYWHERE [10:21] You're >70% water, so that's good, right? [10:21] christel: oh I take it this is not on purpose [10:22] indeed not! [10:22] the pipes under my sink came apart back in november, had a plumber out, he spent hours fiddling with them... [10:22] a month later they just came apart in the SAME bloody place [10:22] i am most impressed [10:23] AlanBell: To be spoken in the voice of Hong Kong Phooey: "COULD BE!" [10:23] and he is clearly having his christmas holidays still as he's not picking up the phone, so i just left a rather irate "get over here now and fix this, for free!" type message on his answerphone [10:24] I replumbed the bathroom and kitchen in the old house we had === gary_ is now known as bbwman [10:24] is that you offering to come do my plumbing? ;) [10:24] not sure where my blowtorch is now [10:25] i have decided i might die, whomever did the wiring decided that the best place for power for dishwasher/washing machine would be under the sink, with the pipes [10:25] so the sockets are now soaking wet [10:25] I used to have all the gear, pipe cutting tools and a bag of assorted joints [10:25] and i am too much of a wuss to try turn them off! [10:26] christel: aye sockets for the dishwasher back at home at under the sink [10:26] as is the case here for dishwasher and washing machine [10:27] they do have the gargabrage disposal fuse on/off switch on the actual worktop [10:27] Eh. [10:27] issyl0: :) [10:29] good morning everyone, [10:29] if i manage to dry it, would ducttape hold it together until the plumber responds (if i then attempt to use the sink/dishwasher/washing machine etc as little as possible until he turns his bloody phone on?) [10:30] christel: Is it PVC pipe or copper pipe? [10:30] and is it hot, cold or waste? [10:30] * AlanBell does *not* like waste [10:31] christel: can you get a photo of the pipes? [10:31] christel: if you look in your fuse box you'll probably find that the kitchen sockets are on a separate breaker to the rest of the house [10:31] AlanBell: yeah it's the outlet thingie from the sink [10:31] and it's pvc [10:31] christel: 40mm pvc waste pipe [10:31] smelly :( [10:32] basically it looks like what he did when he "replaced" it last month was to replace it with a bit without any threading on [10:32] because it's just slipped out from the threaded bit, but it's entirely smooth [10:32] Ah! It's probably a push joint [10:32] yup [10:32] You get push connect joints in pvc rather than threaded joints [10:33] what you do is unscrew the plastic collar, slip that over the pipe, then unpick the rubber ring from the trap [10:33] i haven't got the faintest idea what you are talking about, but i find it very exciting that you do [10:33] christel: get a photo and I'll draw a diagram [10:33] * czajkowski hugs christel [10:33] DIAGRAM :D [10:33] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fySyTNCiMes [10:36] OK! i have unscrewed the collar and i have the rubber ring in my hand! what do i do now? :D [10:37] slide the rubber bit up the pipe about the width of your index finger, maybe a little further [10:38] there might be a little plastic ring that goes between the collar and the rubber ring to act as a washer [10:39] then slide the pipe back into the trap and screw the collar up fairly tight [10:39] not absolutely horsed up, just so it starts to squeeze the rubber seal [10:39] if it still leaks, tighten it a little more [10:40] is the ring undamaged and clean? [10:41] AlanBell: YES [10:41] also, IT WORKED [10:41] yay [10:41] who needs men when you have #ubuntu-uk!? [10:41] lol [10:41] thank you daubers, AlanBell and gordonjcp <3 [10:41] true to be fair [10:42] heh [10:43] christel: no problem ;-) [10:43] if I have any trouble with a waste pipe I now know who to call ;) [10:44] christel: it should probably fall at a slight angle from the trap, otherwise all kinds of gunk builds up [10:44] i would easily have spent 200 quid on having a plumber come around to drink tea and uuhm and aah at it you know [10:44] AlanBell: haha <3 [10:44] * gordonjcp used to have to regularly - like, every two weeks - remove and degunk the pipe under the bath [10:45] I guess one upside is that I no longer have to remove vast quantities of long purple hair from the bath trap. [10:45] (i wonder why it took the plumber 3 hours when he came to fix the exact same thing back in november) [10:45] because less irc time that was a 2minute job [10:45] (admittedly i drank less tea) [10:48] you guys are so lovely! [10:48] and i am now having a proud diy achievement moment [10:48] which is bad, because i am now contemplating whether i could also just ask you guys how to fix my floors instead of getting a Man in to do them.. [10:49] (i've pulled up the carpets to discover lovely wooden floors, only there's a few bits missing that i need to replace and then i need to sand and varnish them!) [10:49] christel: *you* fixed the sink [10:49] you can do the floors too [10:49] <3 [10:53] AlanBell: operation shrinkage is going well -- i have managed to lose 4st now, now to hope it doesn't find me again! [10:53] thats great [10:54] \o/ [10:54] christel-- [10:55] indeed! [11:00] so, this is the place to go if I need advice on my drainage? [11:00] absolutely! [11:02] :-) [11:48] AlanBell: when? [11:49] tonight or tomorrow [11:51] cant do tomorrow, got a wedding [11:51] GNNNNNN! [11:51] popey: who are you marrying? [11:51] properly annoying issue with my laptop [11:51] i type in irssi and the screen doesnt update [11:51] i have to force a screen update with CTRL+L [11:51] Ctrl+L ? [11:51] i have to do that all the time [11:52] Ctrl+A, Ctrl+L? [11:52] yes [11:52] well, ALT+A, then CTRL+L [11:52] maybe some other CtrlA combo broke it (flow control)? [11:52] there's also "normal" C-l, without C-a [11:52] hang on [11:52] I have been doing c-l to 'fix' the issue of screen not updating [11:52] what is c-a, c-l? [11:53] it forces screen to do a screen update [11:53] instead of the app that happens to be running [11:53] popey: tonight it is then [11:53] * popey checks with mothership [11:54] ok [11:54] yay [11:54] hmm, seems okay now I have done c-a, c-l [11:54] has that toggled something on again? [11:54] I can imagine I accidentially c-a,c-l in the past [11:55] bah, no [11:56] ahhh, c-a,l, not c-a,c-l [11:57] grrr [11:57] sometimes updates, sometimes doesn't [12:00] try C-a C-f [12:00] you might have done that accidentally? [12:00] do you mean c-a,f [12:00] for flow [12:00] yes [12:00] i may have, yes. [12:01] tried +flow, now on -flow [12:01] seems better [12:01] \o/ [12:01] thanks [12:02] popey: C-a,: nethack on [12:02] popey: ;) [12:41] Afternoon all. [12:41] afternoon [12:43] How goes? [12:44] i'm well and waiting patiently for the new year [12:44] yourself? [12:46] Good thanks. In the middle of a massive ERP implementation :/ [12:46] you can be good while doing an ERP implementation? [12:47] I am trying to stay positive [12:47] heh [12:56] smittix: what ERP? [12:57] AlanBell: Enterprise Resource Planning [12:57] :) I know that bit! [12:57] which one? [12:57] oh sorry I imagined an is [12:58] we do openERP implementations, but try to avoid them being massive [12:59] * popey bets on SAP [13:17] AlanBell: It's called Accord. [13:17] * AlanBell observes yet another failed bet on SAP [13:17] haha [13:17] by a company called BCP. [13:19] interesting stuff [13:23] Printing formats do my nut in. [13:24] * TheOpenSourcerer is currently looking at OpenERP invoice templates... [13:24] At least it is ODF. [13:27] TheOpenSourcerer: beers this evening? [13:28] Hmmm. Not sure just yet. I'm out all day tomorrow Golf then lots of beer. Not sure I'll get (or deserve) another pass. I will ask though when she gets home. [14:28] paul, i'm just waiting for glasgow cid to call back regarding the electron club at the cca, see you at curlers at 6 for a pint [14:29] damn wrong tab. sowwy [14:29] a/24 [14:29] oops [14:29] * penguin42 hates to think what that was about ... [14:40] gordboy: freak [14:54] TheOpenSourcerer: I am looking invoice templates too. Trying to blank a label if there is no data in the field. [14:55] Writter in Progress [15:12] bah shocking upload speeds via SFTP [15:53] I mentioned Creme eggs in a G+ checkin and got 3 +1s from ladies I'd never heard of [16:07] [Alan Bell] Ubuntu IRC Council - http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2011/12/29/ubuntu-irc-council-2/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=ubuntu-irc-council-2 [16:08] ops plz [16:10] penguin42: mmmmcreme eggs. [16:10] (did you mention Daviey ?) [16:10] Daviey? [16:10] he likes creme eggs very much. [16:10] * christel nods [16:10] christel: don't confuse the uninitiated [16:11] or scare them [16:11] hehe [16:12] christel: did the plumber ever get back to you [16:12] christel: tbh I don't like creme eggs - too much creme and not enough chocolate [16:12] czajkowski: no :( [16:13] penguin42: ah see i am the other way around, i cant stand the chocolate but i love the goo! so i lick them clean and discard the chocolate :S [16:13] christel: I think you need a more hygenic way of separating them and then we might do a deal [16:13] lol [16:14] * mgdm hands christel a spoon [16:15] haha [16:15] christel: Not that creme eggs have good chocolate, but it's still chocolate! [16:15] mgdm: thanking you! [16:16] i wonder if i could go around shops extracting the goo with a syringe and leaving the chocolate eggs behind [16:16] (and then we'd have hordes of disappointed children wondering why their creme egg was faulty) [16:18] you'd think Cadburys would have started selling jars of the stuff for people like you by now [16:18] i agree! they are missing out [16:20] it's just fondant, you can make it [16:32] christel: http://www.angelfire.com/wizard/pawdygrrl/recipes/top-secret_recipes/cadbury_creme_egg.html [16:36] DJones, gordonjcp : i love you. [16:36] first you sort out my leak, then you tell me how to make creme egg creme! [16:36] Heh [16:36] All you'll need now is to find a dentist via the channel :) [16:37] hahaha [16:37] yes! [16:48] launchpad really is *horrible* to use [16:53] gordonjcp: Most of ht ebug systems are - lp is far from the worst (well, at least when it isn't timing out) [16:54] penguin42: that's part of the problem [16:54] yeh when launchpad doesnt time out, it's ok [16:54] also I can never remember my password, since it forces me to use the wrong password [16:54] ? [16:57] one I can't remember, with a weird mix of capitalisation etc [16:58] i keep mine in the browser [16:58] and in keepass [16:58] that's a lot of effort to go to for something I use every few months [17:01] it's a lot of effort to keep the password in your webbrowser ? [17:01] surely thats convenient. [17:07] [Alistair McKinlay] If you oppose this then& - http://www.10people.co.uk/index.php/2011/12/if-you-oppose-this-then/ [17:11] Installing CoD4 on the latest stable wine version I get "Error: -1603 Fatal error during installation." How can I fix this? [17:11] ( I have asked on WineHQ but often this channel provides a speedier answer =] ) [17:23] kvarley: wine --version ? [17:24] Azelphur: wine-1.3.35 [17:25] Azelphur: I think it may be a read error [17:25] you on the steam version, or latest 1.7? [17:25] or retail DVD? [17:26] Azelphur: Trying to install from the retail DVD [17:26] Azelphur: How can I extract a .iso? I think my backup isn't mounting properly [17:26] kvarley: have you read the appdb / done the patches? [17:27] kvarley: file-roller should do it (It's the default extraction tool in Ubuntu) [17:27] Azelphur: yes, there is no mention of my error code. I can't do the patches until I have installed the retail version [17:28]