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jrwrennot familiar with the L00:04
jrwrenwe have a 3700 at the office, I think.00:04
jrwrenit is nice, but a little buggy00:04
rick_h__yea, I threw off netgeat long ago and never looked at them00:04
rick_h__so really out of touch, then again I tend to get a router every few years and don't pay attention anyway00:05
jrwreni've had this wrt54gl for a long time now.00:14
jrwrensince wifi sucks, I have no intention of replacing it.00:14
snap-lYeah, I lvove the WRT54GL00:14
snap-lThe only reason that I'm thinking of upgrading is because I want gigabit ethernet and Wireless N00:16
jrwreni bought a trendnet GREEN gigabit switch.00:18
jrwrenVERY low power. <3 it00:18
jrwrenits basically free to have it on all the time.00:18
jrwrennot like the router with wifi that costs about $5/mo in electricity00:18
snap-lRight, but I want to have both devices in one. :)00:50
jrwrenyeah, i actually needed a hub at that particular physical location, different from where my wifi router is.01:16
rick_h__yea, separate switch ftw!01:19
rick_h__home based routers/switches like that don't have decent enough hardware to maintain good solid connections anyway01:19
snap-lThing is, the only things wired are the printer and my desktop01:21
jrwrenthen why do you need gigabit?01:58
snap-lBecause when I do hook up something else, I want the speed. ;)02:16
snap-land I want my prints to be BLAZINGLY FAST02:16
WolfgerMorning.12:33
snap-lmorning13:07
brouschyou are correct13:10
snap-lThank you.13:11
brouschno, thank you13:12
rick_h__morning14:27
brouschold news14:29
rick_h__yea yea...well got to sleep in until 8:30 today so I'm behind :)14:30
Wolfger:-p14:30
snap-lrick_h__: Nice. :)14:30
snap-lThat's one thing that scares me about $NEWJOB14:30
snap-lI like sleep14:31
rick_h__snap-l: all good, John doesn't get in until after 9 usually14:31
snap-lhah14:31
WolfgerI got to sleep until... 1 AM? Then I got to toss and turn until 4:45. Then I gave up.14:31
rick_h__most the rest of us were 7-8am'ers14:31
snap-lWell, it's also because JoDee's got early classes this time around14:31
snap-lso it'll be competition for the bathroom14:32
rick_h__you can do it! win win win!14:32
snap-lheh14:32
WolfgerOh fer crying out loud... I just found out my contract house no longer owns a fax. They use the fax machine of the business next door.14:33
rick_h__scanner + email?14:34
brouschwtf do you need a shower if you're working from home?14:34
Wolfgerrick_h__: They headhunt tech people. They are not tech people themselves...14:34
rick_h__any of you guys read pandoras star?14:35
WolfgerI believe my contract house currently consists of the owner and a secretary. They aren't even open 5 days a week anymore. Times are tough.14:35
snap-lWolfger: Which house?14:35
Wolfgerrick_h__: Never read it, but it sounds very cool14:38
Wolfgersnap-l: American Heritage14:38
rick_h__Wolfger: heh, just took a half hour off on a tagent for such a small point. Thinking this is going to be a "big" book14:39
snap-lWolfger: Not familiar with them14:39
snap-lrick_h__: http://www.amazon.com/Pandoras-Star-Peter-F-Hamilton/product-reviews/0345461622/ref=cm_cr_dp_synop?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending#R3NXP49QOOQY9W14:40
rick_h__oh crap...nothing is resolved in the book? You have to read part 2?14:42
rick_h__*sigh*14:42
snap-lThat said, it sounds interesting14:43
brouschwelcome to west MI! http://www.wzzm13.com/rss/article/191807/14/Cougar-attack-in-Allendale15:15
mydogsname1srudyloads up his gun and traps and heads south15:17
Wolfger*sigh* More sensationalized headlines... "cougar attack"... There's no mention of hot 40-something women in that article at all... ;-)15:17
brouschthere is a 40-something woman in that article15:17
WolfgerThere is?15:18
brouschshe smokes so you know she's classy15:20
snap-lhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=te8jt-jUkm8#! <- rick_h__15:37
snap-lThe raspberry pi is supposed to be a cheap coputer for kids to program15:37
rick_h__snap-l: interesting I guess15:41
snap-lit can play quake 315:41
Wolfgerbrousch: No mention of age. It's implied that she lives with her father, so I assumed she was young. But then, she also has kids...15:58
brouschthere is a video :P15:59
Wolfger<-- no video at work16:00
WolfgerWow. Somebody just left a comment (non-spam so far as I can tell) on my 3+ year old blog post about the OpenMoko Freerunner. I'd forgotten that phone even existed.16:04
snap-lhttp://www.jerkcity.com/jerkcity4755.html16:04
snap-lWolfger: The spiritual predecessor to the Android platform16:05
snap-lor at least that's what folks would lead you to believe. ;)16:05
Wolfgerwhich folks, other than yourself?16:06
snap-lI thought this came up before16:06
snap-lI said that the open moko was essentially doomed from the start16:07
WolfgerIt's been over a year since I've heard anybody say anything about it, and it's not relevant enough for me to remember what anybody said about it for longer than that... :-p16:08
snap-lMan, I really want to know how it can go from 9:30 to 11:13 so quickly.16:09
* Wolfger wonders how snap-l got 4 minutes into the future16:10
Scott_firebetaaliens16:10
snap-lWolfger: Blame JoDee's clock in the other room16:10
snap-lIt's on JST16:10
Wolfgerheh16:10
snap-l(JoDee standard time)16:10
WolfgerI just can't believe it's the 21st century and we still have clocks that aren't auto-sync'd to a master....16:11
snap-lDon't get me started.16:11
WolfgerClocks being off is such a 19th century problem (well, and most of the 20th as well)16:12
WolfgerIn my utopian future, all timekeeping devices wirelessly sync to an atomic clock in UTC16:14
Wolfgerand 11:13 will occur simultaneously for every person in the world16:14
Wolfgerscrew this time zone and daylight savings crap16:15
nullspaceWolfger, I think you can make that happen using a wireless router16:15
Wolfgerand clocks that flash 12:00 until you set them16:15
Wolfgernullspace: I think you are using a different definition of "all"... Making this happen is far more a human issue than a tech issue.16:16
Wolfgerof course, I could beat dissenters to death with the wireless router in question....16:17
Wolfgerit would take time, but eventually that router would solve my issue.16:17
nullspacesome one used a router and wired up a couple of 7 segment displays to the serial port.16:20
nullspacehttp://www.biffer.talktalk.net/sweex/clock/16:21
WolfgerIt occurs to me that snow is ninja rain. You never hear it coming.16:25
krondorrick_h__:  how was chc?  It seems like even when I think I have time, fail.18:08
rick_h__krondor: heh, all good. Got a lot of good bookie work done18:09
rick_h__light night, but that's the holidays for ya18:10
krondornice, yeah we had a datacenter outage so I was called back in, got back home at 6:00 am.18:11
snap-lUgh, that's no good18:12
rick_h__ouch18:12
krondoryeah I won't get into the evil that is our power system (power surge blew a hole in our UPS system before going dark).18:13
rick_h__a 'hole'? nice18:13
krondorHopefully someone with cash will take notice now and fix our crap18:13
krondoryeah a literal hole actually18:14
brouschyikes18:14
snap-lYeah, you'd think someone would take notice of that18:15
krondorit's happened before, our UPS is homebuilt and pretty old.18:17
krondorI'm pretty sure the guy that designed the system has retired18:18
krondormakes the redundant generators kind of unecessary if your spof is behind them18:18
snap-lHeh18:43
rick_h__http://michaelcrump.net/11-things-every-software-developer-should-be-doing-in-201218:51
rick_h__get out there devs18:51
brouschno18:55
rick_h__hot damn, stuff it starting to get close18:59
brouscheh?19:03
brouschyour aneurysm?19:04
rick_h__https://github.com/mitechie/Bookie/commits/feature/jsui19:04
rick_h__https://github.com/mitechie/Bookie/commit/86f4eb42de1d84883013082a0d6484cdc1bf1cd919:04
rick_h__in particular19:05
rick_h__today is "daddy day" so I'm spending the afternoon hacking at the coffee shop19:05
brouschheh19:05
brouschi got a new camera. canon powershot s9519:06
rick_h__nice19:07
brouschit has some manual settings so hopefully i can learn a little more photography19:08
greg-gbrousch: that is a nice camera, good choice19:45
snap-lNothing like looking at people unsubscribe from a low-traffic mailing list after you post two messages.19:45
brouschsnap-l: spammer19:45
snap-lReally, I don't have a complex. ;)19:45
greg-gsnap-l: :) I've noticed that too19:46
brouschi find that i forget i'm such lists, and the emails remind me that i meant to unsubscribe19:46
snap-lIt's like "seriously? Two messages in the past month broke you enough to unsubscribe?"19:46
snap-lbrousch: Understood19:46
snap-lI just find it amusing19:47
snap-lI've done the same.19:47
brouschthis camera has some cool features: fish-eye, miniature mode, RAW+JPEG, smile and wink detection, HDR20:17
brouschtracking autofocus20:19
brouschcan fix red-eye right on the camera20:25
_stink_wink detection?20:51
_stink_to find creepy guys?20:51
brouschno, to trigger a photo when you're in it20:52
brouschyou setup the camera, get in the photo, wink, then it takes a photo 2s later20:52
brouschit also has blink detection, which tells you if someone in the photo has their eyes closed20:53
_stink_holy crap20:53
_stink_nice20:53
brouschcrazy stuff20:53
snap-lAlso has googly eyes detection to see if your kids made faces at the camera20:54
brouschheh20:55
krondorso one of these things is not like the other; http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/13-weird-and-wonderful-niche-linux-distros-104662420:55
krondorNot saying Gentoo isn't niche, but it has a huge market share compared with these other niche distros20:57
brouschoooh, ubuntu SE20:58
krondorif you put ubuntu SE and ubuntu CE people in the same room what happens?  You discover the Higgs?21:00
brouschif you dual boot them you destroy the earth21:05
snap-lI've always thought GNewSense should be pronounced "GNuisance"21:50
snap-lWhen did Best Buy's site start sucking?22:10
snap-lSeriously, can't tell the inventory of a store without going three levels deep22:10

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