[00:04] not familiar with the L [00:04] we have a 3700 at the office, I think. [00:04] it is nice, but a little buggy [00:04] yea, I threw off netgeat long ago and never looked at them [00:05] so really out of touch, then again I tend to get a router every few years and don't pay attention anyway [00:14] i've had this wrt54gl for a long time now. [00:14] since wifi sucks, I have no intention of replacing it. [00:14] Yeah, I lvove the WRT54GL [00:16] The only reason that I'm thinking of upgrading is because I want gigabit ethernet and Wireless N [00:18] i bought a trendnet GREEN gigabit switch. [00:18] VERY low power. <3 it [00:18] its basically free to have it on all the time. [00:18] not like the router with wifi that costs about $5/mo in electricity [00:50] Right, but I want to have both devices in one. :) [01:16] yeah, i actually needed a hub at that particular physical location, different from where my wifi router is. [01:19] yea, separate switch ftw! [01:19] home based routers/switches like that don't have decent enough hardware to maintain good solid connections anyway [01:21] Thing is, the only things wired are the printer and my desktop [01:58] then why do you need gigabit? [02:16] Because when I do hook up something else, I want the speed. ;) [02:16] and I want my prints to be BLAZINGLY FAST [12:33] Morning. [13:07] morning [13:10] you are correct [13:11] Thank you. [13:12] no, thank you [14:27] morning [14:29] old news [14:30] yea yea...well got to sleep in until 8:30 today so I'm behind :) [14:30] :-p [14:30] rick_h__: Nice. :) [14:30] That's one thing that scares me about $NEWJOB [14:31] I like sleep [14:31] snap-l: all good, John doesn't get in until after 9 usually [14:31] hah [14:31] I got to sleep until... 1 AM? Then I got to toss and turn until 4:45. Then I gave up. [14:31] most the rest of us were 7-8am'ers [14:31] Well, it's also because JoDee's got early classes this time around [14:32] so it'll be competition for the bathroom [14:32] you can do it! win win win! [14:32] heh [14:33] Oh fer crying out loud... I just found out my contract house no longer owns a fax. They use the fax machine of the business next door. [14:34] scanner + email? [14:34] wtf do you need a shower if you're working from home? [14:34] rick_h__: They headhunt tech people. They are not tech people themselves... [14:35] any of you guys read pandoras star? [14:35] I believe my contract house currently consists of the owner and a secretary. They aren't even open 5 days a week anymore. Times are tough. [14:35] Wolfger: Which house? [14:38] rick_h__: Never read it, but it sounds very cool [14:38] snap-l: American Heritage [14:39] Wolfger: heh, just took a half hour off on a tagent for such a small point. Thinking this is going to be a "big" book [14:39] Wolfger: Not familiar with them [14:40] rick_h__: http://www.amazon.com/Pandoras-Star-Peter-F-Hamilton/product-reviews/0345461622/ref=cm_cr_dp_synop?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending#R3NXP49QOOQY9W [14:42] oh crap...nothing is resolved in the book? You have to read part 2? [14:42] *sigh* [14:43] That said, it sounds interesting [15:15] welcome to west MI! http://www.wzzm13.com/rss/article/191807/14/Cougar-attack-in-Allendale [15:17] loads up his gun and traps and heads south [15:17] *sigh* More sensationalized headlines... "cougar attack"... There's no mention of hot 40-something women in that article at all... ;-) [15:17] there is a 40-something woman in that article [15:18] There is? [15:20] she smokes so you know she's classy [15:37] http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=te8jt-jUkm8#! <- rick_h__ [15:37] The raspberry pi is supposed to be a cheap coputer for kids to program [15:41] snap-l: interesting I guess [15:41] it can play quake 3 [15:58] brousch: No mention of age. It's implied that she lives with her father, so I assumed she was young. But then, she also has kids... [15:59] there is a video :P [16:00] <-- no video at work [16:04] Wow. Somebody just left a comment (non-spam so far as I can tell) on my 3+ year old blog post about the OpenMoko Freerunner. I'd forgotten that phone even existed. [16:04] http://www.jerkcity.com/jerkcity4755.html [16:05] Wolfger: The spiritual predecessor to the Android platform [16:05] or at least that's what folks would lead you to believe. ;) [16:06] which folks, other than yourself? [16:06] I thought this came up before [16:07] I said that the open moko was essentially doomed from the start [16:08] It's been over a year since I've heard anybody say anything about it, and it's not relevant enough for me to remember what anybody said about it for longer than that... :-p [16:09] Man, I really want to know how it can go from 9:30 to 11:13 so quickly. [16:10] * Wolfger wonders how snap-l got 4 minutes into the future [16:10] aliens [16:10] Wolfger: Blame JoDee's clock in the other room [16:10] It's on JST [16:10] heh [16:10] (JoDee standard time) [16:11] I just can't believe it's the 21st century and we still have clocks that aren't auto-sync'd to a master.... [16:11] Don't get me started. [16:12] Clocks being off is such a 19th century problem (well, and most of the 20th as well) [16:14] In my utopian future, all timekeeping devices wirelessly sync to an atomic clock in UTC [16:14] and 11:13 will occur simultaneously for every person in the world [16:15] screw this time zone and daylight savings crap [16:15] Wolfger, I think you can make that happen using a wireless router [16:15] and clocks that flash 12:00 until you set them [16:16] nullspace: I think you are using a different definition of "all"... Making this happen is far more a human issue than a tech issue. [16:17] of course, I could beat dissenters to death with the wireless router in question.... [16:17] it would take time, but eventually that router would solve my issue. [16:20] some one used a router and wired up a couple of 7 segment displays to the serial port. [16:21] http://www.biffer.talktalk.net/sweex/clock/ [16:25] It occurs to me that snow is ninja rain. You never hear it coming. [18:08] rick_h__: how was chc? It seems like even when I think I have time, fail. [18:09] krondor: heh, all good. Got a lot of good bookie work done [18:10] light night, but that's the holidays for ya [18:11] nice, yeah we had a datacenter outage so I was called back in, got back home at 6:00 am. [18:12] Ugh, that's no good [18:12] ouch [18:13] yeah I won't get into the evil that is our power system (power surge blew a hole in our UPS system before going dark). [18:13] a 'hole'? nice [18:13] Hopefully someone with cash will take notice now and fix our crap [18:14] yeah a literal hole actually [18:14] yikes [18:15] Yeah, you'd think someone would take notice of that [18:17] it's happened before, our UPS is homebuilt and pretty old. [18:18] I'm pretty sure the guy that designed the system has retired [18:18] makes the redundant generators kind of unecessary if your spof is behind them [18:43] Heh [18:51] http://michaelcrump.net/11-things-every-software-developer-should-be-doing-in-2012 [18:51] get out there devs [18:55] no [18:59] hot damn, stuff it starting to get close [19:03] eh? [19:04] your aneurysm? [19:04] https://github.com/mitechie/Bookie/commits/feature/jsui [19:04] https://github.com/mitechie/Bookie/commit/86f4eb42de1d84883013082a0d6484cdc1bf1cd9 [19:05] in particular [19:05] today is "daddy day" so I'm spending the afternoon hacking at the coffee shop [19:05] heh [19:06] i got a new camera. canon powershot s95 [19:07] nice [19:08] it has some manual settings so hopefully i can learn a little more photography [19:45] brousch: that is a nice camera, good choice [19:45] Nothing like looking at people unsubscribe from a low-traffic mailing list after you post two messages. [19:45] snap-l: spammer [19:45] Really, I don't have a complex. ;) [19:46] snap-l: :) I've noticed that too [19:46] i find that i forget i'm such lists, and the emails remind me that i meant to unsubscribe [19:46] It's like "seriously? Two messages in the past month broke you enough to unsubscribe?" [19:46] brousch: Understood [19:47] I just find it amusing [19:47] I've done the same. [20:17] this camera has some cool features: fish-eye, miniature mode, RAW+JPEG, smile and wink detection, HDR [20:19] tracking autofocus [20:25] can fix red-eye right on the camera [20:51] <_stink_> wink detection? [20:51] <_stink_> to find creepy guys? [20:52] no, to trigger a photo when you're in it [20:52] you setup the camera, get in the photo, wink, then it takes a photo 2s later [20:53] it also has blink detection, which tells you if someone in the photo has their eyes closed [20:53] <_stink_> holy crap [20:53] <_stink_> nice [20:53] crazy stuff [20:54] Also has googly eyes detection to see if your kids made faces at the camera [20:55] heh [20:55] so one of these things is not like the other; http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/13-weird-and-wonderful-niche-linux-distros-1046624 [20:57] Not saying Gentoo isn't niche, but it has a huge market share compared with these other niche distros [20:58] oooh, ubuntu SE [21:00] if you put ubuntu SE and ubuntu CE people in the same room what happens? You discover the Higgs? [21:05] if you dual boot them you destroy the earth [21:50] I've always thought GNewSense should be pronounced "GNuisance" [22:10] When did Best Buy's site start sucking? [22:10] Seriously, can't tell the inventory of a store without going three levels deep