[00:00] <opticlove> melissa: W7 then ubuntu, and you should be able to
[00:00] <LogicallyDashing> Melissa: usually you have to install Windows first or else it clobbers the bootloader. And there's no reason not to run the different arch versions.
[00:00] <FrozenInferno> ok, another question: how do I get a bash script to open in a terminal on log in?
[00:00] <Ynodde> Melissa: Always windows first, then ubuntu will create the dual boot menu for you
[00:00] <milo_> Thanks Logicially Dashing by the way.
[00:00] <LogicallyDashing> yw
[00:00] <Melissa> LogicallyDashing: whats arch version?
[00:00] <opticlove> i bought an SSD, how would i transfer this OS configuration structure/files over?
[00:00] <Melissa> Ynodde: ok
[00:00] <LogicallyDashing> Melissa: architecture versions of operating systems. x86 x64
[00:00] <Melissa> i want to secure my data in ubuntu, in case laptop gets stolen.  Can Ubuntu encrypt partition or what else can I do?
[00:01] <LogicallyDashing> milo_ you can give multiple process ids to a single kill command
[00:01] <yumbo> Melissa, good chance it will work with wine (running the game in Ubuntu)
[00:01] <Melissa> LogicallyDashing: but I want to run ubuntu 64 bit.. but my W7 is 32 bit.. Can I dual boot them?
[00:01] <LogicallyDashing> Melissa: if you use the alternate install disc you can set up an encrypted volume
[00:01] <LogicallyDashing> Melissa: yes, certainly
[00:01] <Melissa> yumbo: it wont. i read about it and punkbuster dont work properly either
[00:01] <yumbo> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=6637
[00:01] <yumbo> Here it says differently
[00:02] <Melissa> yumbo: battlefield 2142 needs punkbuster etc.
[00:02] <yumbo> Okay
[00:02] <Melissa> yumbo: the single player works, not online multiplayer apparently
[00:03] <Melissa> i wish I could run battlefield 2142 on Ubuntu:(
[00:03] <yumbo> Well, if you need punkbuster, it wont run in wine probably
[00:03] <Melissa> yumbo: notice that link you gave it says, "PunkBuster used to work ok in Wine 0.9.47, but in Wine 0.9.59 I keep getting kicked within seconds on connecting. This may have just been a fluke, but I will do some more testing to see if I can find a cause.
[00:03] <Melissa> "
[00:04] <yumbo> yeah, if you dont mind dualbooting windows, id say go for that
[00:04] <vsync_> and opticlove you could use dd
[00:04] <wilhart> does anyone have virtualbox with ubuntu 11.10
[00:04] <opticlove> dd?
[00:04] <Melissa> yumbo: MultiPlayer Mode is a Problem, cause Punkbuster kicks your from server, because the fingerprint of the wine appi's/dll's are not from Microsoft... Have contacted EvenBalance, the Maintainer of Punkbuster.. but seams that there is no chance to get Punkbuster work in wine... ;(..
[00:05] <Guest99702> alo
[00:05] <yumbo> Hmm, thats too bad
[00:05] <Melissa> yumbo: i thought I will use Ubuntu for everything.  and then boot up W7 if I want to play battlefield 2142.  So what you recommend how I go about doing this?
[00:05] <yumbo> first create a number of partitions with Gparted (using the ubuntu live cd)
[00:05] <Melissa> LogicallyDashing: if I dont grab the alternative CD, then someone can get my data on Ubuntu?
[00:06] <vsync_> Melissa well if you have the ubuntu installed already, just install win. and later on install bootloader back to the first partition
[00:06] <Melissa> yumbo: how many partitions do I need to create? and what sizes?  I have a 500GB hdd
[00:06] <yumbo> Melissa, Do you have anything installed already?
[00:06] <Melissa> yumbo: the W7 has already created D: for rescue
[00:06] <yumbo> a screenshot of Gparted would be nice
[00:06] <vsync_> or well, if you have other than /boot on sda1, then i suggest backing stuff up
[00:07] <vsync_> cause win installer overwrites it with it's own bootloader
[00:07] <Melissa> yumbo: W7 is on C: and D: is for restore, and E: contains HP tools and drivers.  So where and how can I install ubuntu?
[00:07] <yumbo> How big are c,d and e ?
[00:07] <Melissa> vsync_: so what if I need to restore W7 from D: by pressing F11?
[00:07] <LogicallyDashing> Melissa: Ubuntu doesn't know or care about drive letters. You'll need to make a new *partition* by shrinking the Windows one.
[00:07] <FrozenInferno> I have a script that I need to run in a terminal on boot up, can someone help me?
[00:07] <LogicallyDashing> Melissa: you can still do that but it will overwrite ubuntu.
[00:07] <vsync_> Melissa then you press F11, obviously
[00:08] <LogicallyDashing> probably?
[00:08] <urlin2u> Melissa, you probably have a boot partition as well 4 primaries.
[00:08] <Melissa> vsync_: but Grub destroys the F11 ability right?
[00:08] <vsync_> urlin2u boot+4 primaries not possible
[00:08] <vsync_> annnnyway
[00:08] <urlin2u> vsync_, 4 all together
[00:08] <Melissa> how many partitions will ubuntu need?  1 or 2 with swap partition?
[00:08] <yumbo> vsync_, using GPT disk you can have more than 4 primaries
[00:08] <vsync_> Melissa no
[00:09] <vsync_> yumbo yeah. it's just not that common yet
[00:09] <yumbo> Melissa, what are the sizes of C, D and E at the moment?
[00:09] <Melissa> vsync_: if I restore W7 from D: by pressong F11, then  it will destroy grub and ability to load Ubuntu! What I do then?
[00:09] <vsync_> Melissa then you re-install grub
[00:09] <Melissa> yumbo: about 11GB for D: and 10GB for E: and rest for C:.  total is 500GB
[00:10] <Melissa> vsync_: how?
[00:10] <yumbo> Melissa, then you boot a live-cd and reinstall grub
[00:10] <Melissa> ok
[00:10] <vsync_> boot livecd, chroot into your ubuntu install and do grub-install /dev/sda
[00:10] <vsync_> voilá
[00:10] <escott> Melissa, windows restores tend to overwrite everything including the partition table. likely ubuntu wouldn't exist after a windows restore
[00:10] <Melissa> yumbo: will the live CD give ability to install Grub and Grub will know to boot Ubuntu from F: drive?
[00:10] <Melissa> escott: ok
[00:10] <yumbo> yup (its not an F: drive though)
[00:10] <vsync_> grub automates it
[00:11] <milo_> Ok, I will look into mutliple ids to kill commands...
[00:11] <yumbo> Melissa, firstly you'll need to shrink the windows C: partition (something like 40~70gb)
[00:11] <Melissa> yumbo: maybe I should keep W7 on C:, delete D: and F: cause they only contain W7 restore image and tools, and then install Ubuntu on D:?
[00:11] <LogicallyDashing> Melissa: you should probably start referring to those drives by their numbers instead
[00:11] <yumbo> you cant install ubuntu on D: (thats not how partitions work ;))
[00:12] <LogicallyDashing> Melissa: the letters are a Windows specific thing
[00:12] <Melissa> yumbo: maybe I could use EaseUS todo to backup W7, then I wont need D: and E:, right?
[00:12] <yumbo> I would always recommend a separate data partition (like D:)
[00:12] <Melissa> LogicallyDashing: i dont know what the letters are for C: and D: and E: etc?
[00:12] <Melissa> sda1? sda2?
[00:12] <LogicallyDashing> Melissa: the numbers are usually 1 for recovery and 2 for Windows
[00:13] <LogicallyDashing> Melissa: depending on how you partition, Ubuntu will be on partition 3 or 5
[00:13] <Melissa> LogicallyDashing: so C: = sda1?  And D: = sda2? e: = sda3
[00:13] <vsync_> most likely c is first disk 2nd parittion, d first disk 3rd partition
[00:13] <Melissa> LogicallyDashing: eh? :P
[00:13] <LogicallyDashing> Melissa: it *really* depends on the order that the partitions appear on the disk, so all I can say is "probably"
[00:13] <Melissa> u lost me.. i dont get it :P  its ok, forget it lol
[00:13] <Melissa> :-)
[00:14] <LogicallyDashing> Melissa: think of partitions as really enormous files. they are in a particular order. so we give them numbers.
[00:14] <escott> Melissa, I think windows calls whatever it boots off of C: even if its sda17 so those letters don't mean much, but its probably C=sda1 etc
[00:14] <vsync_> escott nah
[00:15] <FrozenInferno> I'm trying to use crontab to run a script at startup and it's not working. using "@reboot sh /path/to/script.sh". Any help?
[00:15] <Hobz> vbox
[00:15] <vsync_> Why are you derailing this stuff, doesn't help a god damn thing. Melissa, how big is C? If it's big enough to house windows + bf2142, just delete partitions D and E.
[00:16] <scwizard> how can I turn on suexec on 10.4? Do I need to download a seperate package? Do I need to replace the apache I have?
[00:16] <[deXter]|> Hi all, just installed 11.10 on nvidia laptop. External monitor not being detected. Did not install the restricted drivers. Monitor was working fine in the live cd though. Any help?
[00:16] <asodiutoawueiow2> ADMIN
[00:16] <scwizard> I'd like to avoid the special ubuntu version of suexec with the config files if at all possible
[00:17] <[deXter]|> Oh actually it says nvidia drivers are installed...
[00:18] <Hobz> Hey, I'm having some trouble getting vbox to run on my ubuntu system.  I get the dmesg error  "vboxdrv: version magic '2.6.38.8 SMP mod_unload ELAN ' should be '2.6.39.4 SMP mod_unload ELAN '" Google doesn't seem to know, can anybody help me?
[00:18] <xcyclist> Where in heaven's name does Ubuntu hide the identifier that sets the editor for things like visudo?  This should be done simply, and instead I cannot find it for the life of me
[00:18] <vsync_> Melissa, so if C is big enough, and you deleted D+E, I suggest you install maybe root on sda3, and a separate home on sda5. Doesn't really matter that much. sda1 is occupied with the windows boot loader, and sda2 is your windows' C partition
[00:18] <vsync_> and you install ubuntu's boot on sda1
[00:19] <milo_> Ok, I tried closing down the programs running in lsof to umount my hard drive and it just restarted my comp
[00:19] <[deXter]|> Now the nvidia settings is showing my external monitor, but there's no option to activate it..
[00:19] <escott> xcyclist, for visudo it would be vi. what identifier are you expecting
[00:21] <FrozenInferno> No one can help me run a script on startup?
[00:23] <escott> xcyclist, thats really strange that visudo doesn't use vi. the man page explains that it uses /usr/bin/editor by default
[00:24] <wilhart> anyone has virtual box with kubuntu ?
[00:25] <wilhart> ubuntu
[00:25] <Hobz> I do, but it's not working wilhart
[00:25] <wilhart> Hobz: not working ?
[00:25] <wilhart> Hobz: i have graphic issues
[00:25] <Balthazar> wilhart: I do
[00:25] <xcyclist> escott:  Sorry, but it comes up in nano.
[00:25] <wilhart> Balthazar: i have graphic issues and effects wont work
[00:25] <Hobz> wilhart, I have version magic issues
[00:25] <xcyclist> escott:  This is using ubuntu 64bit
[00:26] <wilhart> emm
[00:26] <wilhart> Hobz: how do i enter the windowed mode ?
[00:26] <Balthazar> wilhart: Did you enable 3d when you set up the virtual machine?
[00:27] <wilhart> Balthazar: yep
[00:27] <wilhart> Balthazar: or after
[00:27] <wilhart> Balthazar: i'm jammed in a windows mode :P
[00:27] <escott> xcyclist, update-alternatives
[00:27] <wilhart> Balthazar: i'm just trying to get effects on ubuntu/k
[00:28] <ubuntu> y
[00:28] <Balthazar> wilhart: on ubuntu in virtualbox, or on base install
[00:28] <wilhart> Balthazar: virtual
[00:29] <wilhart> Balthazar: no
[00:29] <wilhart> Balthazar: i installed 11.10 .iso
[00:29] <Balthazar> wilhart: Just a guess, but did you increase video memory in settings?
[00:30] <wilhart> Balthazar: yes after second reboot or thirfd
[00:30] <wilhart> 128x now
[00:30] <wilhart> m
[00:31] <wilhart> Balthazar: and resolutions issues
[00:31] <wilhart> ok i give up
[00:31] <Balthazar> wilhart: sorry buddy, I'm out of ideas. I thought I read something about compiz not working well in virtualbox with 11.10, but I don't remember if that was during one of the alpha releases or not
[00:31] <FrozenInferno> No one can help me run a script on startup?
[00:31] <wilhart> Balthazar: ok i'll remove this program
[00:31] <wilhart> bye
[00:32] <Balthazar> FrozenInferno: What's up?
[00:32] <negueba> hey guys, how can i prevent empathy for saving passwords in msn?
[00:32] <FrozenInferno> Balthazar: I'm trying to get a terminal script to run at start up. I've already chmod +x'd it, but I don't know how to run it when the machine starts.
[00:33] <escott> FrozenInferno, put it in rc.local
[00:33] <BlueEagle> FrozenInferno: Do you want it to run at boot or at login?
[00:33] <vouth> Hi. When I run glxinfo, I get: "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig". How can I manage what drivers are being used?
[00:34] <Stepnjump> Is there a way to quickly move emails to a thunderbird folder without having to use the mouse like in outlook express CTRL SHFT - V ???
[00:34] <FrozenInferno> escott: it doesn't run in rc.local. I tried "sh /path/to/script.sh" above "exit 0" and no dice.
[00:34] <FrozenInferno> BlueEagle: At log in.
[00:34] <Balthazar> FrozenInferno: Startup Applications Preferences and add path to script
[00:34] <escott> FrozenInferno, you shouldnt need the sh if you have the correct shebang in the file
[00:35] <FrozenInferno> escott: Well I tried "./path/to/script.sh" and "/path/to/script.sh" with no luck. it runs just fine when i manually run it from the terminal
[00:35] <BlueEagle> escott: You had the right answer for the question, but the question was not what he needed answered. :)
[00:35] <FrozenInferno> Balthazar: that doesn't work either.
[00:36] <escott> FrozenInferno, it would help to know more about this script and what it does
[00:36] <FrozenInferno> escott: it's a script which possesses the sole intention of running a ruby script
[00:37] <gardnan> .msg LotusRonin
[00:38] <FrozenInferno> escott: the contents are literally (after #!bin/bash): "cd /path/script" and then "ruby start.rb"
[00:40] <escott> BlueEagle, thanks. missed his login comment. FrozenInferno crond and rc.local wont work for a gui program, only command line programs. you might try a ruby shebang (that should be supported), but the more we know about this the more likely we are going to be able to help you
[00:43] <FrozenInferno> escott: Ok, in all honesty, it's a SiriProxy server. So it doesn't need a GUI, it's just supposed to work inside a terminal, and that's all I want when I login; is the terminal automatically coming up running the SiriProxy server. It's started with the ruby script named "start.rb", so I created a bash script called "siriproxy.sh" that has "sudo ruby /path/to/start.rb", and i've been trying to run that script.
[00:44] <escott> FrozenInferno, you might add a line before the ruby start.rb that says "echo starting `date` >> /some/file/somewhere" to see if it is starting
[00:44] <alsoeric> Just  wondering, has anyone tried making a flash drive act as cache or a swap device?
[00:44] <escott> alsoeric, its trivial to make it a swap device, just make the partition, and mkswap on it and add it to fstab
[00:45] <alsoeric> change the priority too?
[00:45] <AuroraX> guys i have a USB flash drive that is kinda broken in the file system, how can i repair it on ubuntu like i would do in windows? fsck.vfat /media/USBDRIVENAME/ doesnt work, he says its a directory
[00:45] <escott> FrozenInferno, you should not have sudo in scripts. it wont work there
[00:46] <alsoeric> escott,  can I remove the flash swap (on shutpown) and not need to change fstab?
[00:46] <FrozenInferno> escott: so what do I do? The server requires sudo privileges.
[00:46] <escott> alsoeric, sure if you dont want it to be permanent
[00:46] <Duker> How can I find what my video card is? Seem to be unable to play videos
[00:47] <escott> FrozenInferno, then put it in rc.local and it will be run as root
[00:47] <alsoeric> escott, I'm running a laptop and sometimes I runout of usb ports or just plan forget to plug it in
[00:48] <escott> Frozenball, you need to look at this ruby program and figure out if it needs anything special in the environment to run properly
[00:50] <FrozenInferno> escott: I tried taking the sudo out of the script and putting "/path/to/script.sh
[00:50] <FrozenInferno> no dice
[00:51] <FrozenInferno> should say, I put that in rc.local. The only thing the ruby script requires is for the current directory to be where the script is, but I included the required "cd /path/to/start.rb" in the bash script
[00:52] <pooltable> help how do i install more screen savers ?
[00:52] <escott> FrozenInferno, thats a very poorly written script. I would just fix the ruby script
[00:53] <FrozenInferno> escott: How would I go about doing that?
[00:53] <vouth> How can I manage what video drivers are being used in 10.10?
[00:54] <escott> FrozenInferno, let you know in a second
[00:55] <pooltable> i am useing xfce how to i lock the window ??
[00:55] <Tech-1> ctrl+alt+L
[00:55] <gaby> hello
[00:56] <gaby> how can i install google chrome on 11.10
[00:56] <hal9000ishere> gaby go to google and search chrome, download the deb file
[00:56] <gaby> i did  and i tried to install - but it gives me error
[00:57] <WilliamHerry> chromium works fine
[00:57] <WilliamHerry> you can use it
[00:57] <FrozenInferno> escott: what's the default current directory when rc.local executes?
[00:57] <gaby> how can i post the the output to you
[00:57] <Duker> Anyone know how to watching movies on ubuntu using intel hd graphics 3000?
[00:57] <atem> which one have vpn server installed in your machine????
[00:58] <WilliamHerry> can smplay work?
[00:58] <atem> i need to test vpn but i have no client and no server
[00:58] <atem> which one have one
[00:58] <atem> ?
[00:59] <gaby> any help
[00:59] <gaby> ?
[00:59] <WilliamHerry> network connections have an vpn client
[01:00] <EvilResistance> he's looking for a VPN to test with i think
[01:00] <atem> yes evilresistance
[01:00] <EvilResistance> WilliamHerry:  see my last message there ;P
[01:01] <atem> i have a localnetwork,but i dont have other machine to test
[01:01] <atem> someone have one?
[01:01] <StevenR_> gaby: use a pastebin
[01:01] <atem> i need to test my vpn
[01:01] <atem> well i dont know about vpn i am a novice, but i think i am done it well
[01:01] <escott> FrozenInferno, Dir.chdir(File.dirname(__FILE__))
[01:01] <atem> some one can helpme
[01:02] <StevenR_> !paste | gaby
[01:02] <atem> ?
[01:02] <StevenR_> atem: use a virtual machine
[01:02] <FrozenInferno> escott: well, i know it's not your fault, but that's entirely unhelpful... I didn't think a ruby script would be so hard to auto run, lol.
[01:03] <StevenR_> atem: create some virtual machines, and a virtual network, and use that.
[01:03] <atem> i can do that? i dont know how but ill try, some good tutorial?
[01:03] <escott> FrozenInferno, ruby has some pretty messed up bits to it. add a #!/usr/bin/ruby and that line to the file and you can directly execute it
[01:06] <edbian> quiet!
[01:06] <RecycleE> Does Mafia 2 work well on Ubuntu?
[01:07] <edbian> RecycleE, Is that a game>
[01:07] <edbian> ?
[01:07] <RecycleE> yeah
[01:07] <RecycleE> I'm not sure if it willl run
[01:07] <FrozenInferno> escott: do you mean add those lines to the ruby script?
[01:08] <edbian> RecycleE, looks like: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=11920
[01:08] <RecycleE> Is Unity bad?
[01:08] <edbian> RecycleE, that's a matter of opinion.  I use it, I don't hate it.
[01:08] <RecycleE> well I tried to run it
[01:08] <RecycleE> On Arch Linu
[01:08] <RecycleE> Linux
[01:08] <RecycleE> the demo didnt work
[01:08] <RecycleE> yet on Ubuntu
[01:08] <FloodBot1> RecycleE: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:08] <RecycleE> it ran fine
[01:09] <edbian> RecycleE, then it works?
[01:09] <edbian> RecycleE, what kind of question is this?
[01:09] <escott> FrozenInferno, yes. you might also want to add "require 'fileutils'\n FileUtils.touch("/path/to/some/file")" at the top to make sure it is running
[01:09] <RecycleE> well it ran
[01:09] <edbian> RecycleE, what are you asking me?
[01:09] <RecycleE> well why did it show a black screen on Arch
[01:09] <RecycleE> and it ran fine on Ubuntu
[01:09] <RecycleE> the Demo I am referring to
[01:10] <larstr> is there a kbd shortcut in xubuntu to lock the screen ala ctrl+alt+L in normal ubuntu?
[01:10] <edbian> RecycleE, I haven't the slightest idea
[01:10] <RecycleE> hmmm
[01:10] <RecycleE> weird..
[01:10] <RecycleE> Could it be the distro?
[01:10] <edbian> RecycleE, ummm
[01:10] <bagels> I work in radio, and want to record my own shows at home via our stream online.  Can someone point me to how to do this?
[01:11] <RecycleE> The wine version was the latest
[01:11] <edbian> RecycleE, arch != ubuntu
[01:11] <edbian> RecycleE, there are many many differences
[01:11] <RecycleE> yeah
[01:11] <RecycleE> well wine should run the same?
[01:11] <edbian> RecycleE, There are other factors (for example graphics drivers)
[01:11] <jrmy> is there a way to use my wireless card on xubuntu or do I have to reinstall with the alternate version (assuming that it comes with the wireless functionality)
[01:12] <edbian> jrmy, I bet I can get your card running without a re-install
[01:12] <RecycleE> oh
[01:12] <edbian> jrmy, what card do you have?  (do you know how to check?)
[01:12] <edbian> RecycleE, yep
[01:12] <RecycleE> well I used a NVIDIA ge force
[01:12] <jrmy> one sec
[01:13] <FrozenInferno> escott: I added the #! line to the top and the Dir line below that, then tried ./start.rb and no dice
[01:13] <jrmy> it was working before I had to reinstall again btw
[01:13] <edbian> RecycleE, If you want to get it to work on arch go to #archlinux and start figuring it out.
[01:13] <gaby> any help with google chrome ?
[01:13] <RecycleE> hmm
[01:13] <edbian> RecycleE, but don't ask in #ubuntu why something doesn't work on arch
[01:13] <RecycleE> well it launced
[01:13] <RecycleE> but the black screen showed
[01:13] <edbian> jrmy, ok, what card is this?
[01:13] <edbian> RecycleE, yeah, I get that.  That does not mean anything to me
[01:13] <jrmy> I got a new video card and I tried the drivers which in turn kept Xorg from loading and yeah... :/
[01:13] <edbian> gaby, what about it?
[01:13] <escott> FrozenInferno, what does no dice mean?
[01:13] <RecycleE> hmm
[01:14] <RecycleE> oh
[01:14] <edbian> jrmy, How is this related to the wifi card?
[01:14] <RecycleE> Ubuntu is nice though
[01:14] <RecycleE> still could be better
[01:14] <jrmy> how is Xorg not working not related to reinstalling thus causing my wireless to not work again?
[01:14] <gaby> edbian  - i tried to install the chrome but it gave me error
[01:14] <edbian> RecycleE, This is a support channel.  Please take chit-chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:14] <gaby> can you tell me how to show you the output ?
[01:14] <RecycleE> ahh
[01:14] <RecycleE> sorry
[01:14] <FrozenInferno> escott: Means it didn't work, but I forgot the sudo. So now, lemme add it to rc.local and see if it runs at login
[01:14] <jrmy> anyways.. it's an asus pce-n10
[01:15] <edbian> gaby, copy / paste it here: paste.ubuntu.com  click paste and give me the link to the page it goes to
[01:15] <edbian> jrmy, what wifi card is it?
[01:15] <escott> FrozenInferno, rc.local is not run on login, but on startup
[01:15] <jrmy> "anyways.. it's an asus pce-n10"
[01:15] <FrozenInferno> escott: oh, ok. well i've been testing by rebooting every time, anyway.
[01:15] <edbian> jrmy, that is a computer, not a wifi card
[01:16] <jrmy> then where can I find the name on the box when that's all it says
[01:16] <jrmy> ?
[01:16] <edbian> jrmy, ha, my mistake
[01:16] <escott> FrozenInferno, the proper way to test this is not with a reboot but a sudo -i then try running with the full path to the command
[01:16] <edbian> you're right
[01:16] <jrmy> I do custom build anyways
[01:16] <edbian> jrmy, can you run sudo lspci -k and pastebin it for me?  paste.ubuntu.com
[01:16] <escott> FrozenInferno, when that works then try putting it in rc.local and rebooting
[01:17] <gaby> edbian : http://paste.ubuntu.com/786397/
[01:17] <f0gn0l0> hi all
[01:18] <edbian> gaby, sudo apt-get install libnss3-1d     (we might need to install several packages before this works)
[01:18] <f0gn0l0> how to install flash player 11 on chromium?
[01:18] <jrmy> edbian: http://paste2.org/p/1844346
[01:18] <gaby> edbian - ok guide me
[01:19] <edbian> gaby, run this: sudo apt-get install libnss3-1d and then try to install chrome again
[01:19] <edbian> jrmy, hang on
[01:19] <edbian> jrmy, your wifi card is the last thing in that list
[01:20] <frewo> will there be official packages of firefox/thunderbird 9 in 11.10? or only the ppa?
[01:20] <gaby> to install it again with the same command i did before ?   adbian ?
[01:20] <jrmy> edbian: right
[01:20] <FrozenInferno> escott: it errors out at line 4, which is the first "require" statement. Right now the statement is "require 'local/path/to/plugin'" I don't know ruby, but can I do "require '/full/path/to/plugin'"?
[01:21] <jrmy> edbian: does 11.x have this software for wireless preinstalled?
[01:21] <edbian> jrmy, IDK
[01:21] <f0gn0l0> a little help to install flash player 11 on chromium?
[01:22] <jrmy> I'm currently upgrading back to 11.04.. which was the last I had.. but the only cd I have is 10.04
[01:22] <edbian> jrmy, see the last post here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-nettool/+question/132667
[01:22] <fabio> please someone help me install a wireless usbpen in ubuntu 11.10
[01:23] <escott> FrozenInferno, require is a variant of #include, so you could change it to full paths that would work
[01:23] <jrmy> edbian.. I do have a driver cd.. though I doubt it will work with linux
[01:23] <fabio> please someone help me install a wireless usbpen in ubuntu 11.10 please someone help me with this
[01:24] <jrmy> just got the card today.. just messed up my os today...
[01:24] <edbian> jrmy, It is for linux.  Look at the last post on the link I posted and follow those instructions
[01:24] <jrmy> no my install cd that came with my wireless card
[01:24] <escott> FrozenInferno, but that error is a symptom of the broken handling of relative paths. it should be corrected by the Dir.chdir() call
[01:24] <d1g1ta1> What is the best way to go if I want to (1) copy an entire volume to an external usb drive (2) have the copy automatically verified (3) have files that fail the verify automatically recopied and reverified until correct and (4) show completion status (x% complete)?
[01:25] <edbian> jrmy, the install CD is probably for linux.  Follow THE LINK
[01:25] <azmodeus> hi everybody...
[01:25] <iceroot> d1g1ta1: dd if you want the complete partition
[01:25] <fabio> please someone help me install a wireless usbpen in ubuntu 11.10 please someone help me with this
[01:25] <escott> d1g1ta1, why are you expecting failures?
[01:25] <edbian> azmodeus, hi
[01:25] <jrmy> yeah... but no I doubt asus would give linux support on there products
[01:25] <jrmy> their*
[01:26] <azmodeus> uhmmm... can somebody tell me what's the name of the italian channel? =)
[01:26] <f0gn0l0> a little help to install flash player 11 on chromium?
[01:26] <aeon-ltd> fabio: give some time (like 10 minutes) before asking again, a space of 2 minutes is too short - if someone knew they'd reply.
[01:26] <iceroot> !flash | f0gn0l0
[01:26] <edbian> !it
[01:26] <f0gn0l0> iceroot, thanks for the link
[01:27] <azmodeus> well... thanks a lot... if I'll be unable to find my answer there... I'll be back! ^^
[01:27] <azmodeus> byee...
[01:27] <FrozenInferno> escott: Ok, full paths fixed it, now it's erroring at a function call. this is ridiculous, I'm about to call it quits. the server works, this hassle doesn't seem worth an automatic start, lol.
[01:28] <amccloud> So i'm in a pretty dumb situation. I have an old machine here running Ubuntu. No monitor, and no mouse. I need to enable ssh, vnc, or any other form of remote access so I can control it.
[01:28] <amccloud> It does connect to my network, so thats a good sign...
[01:28] <escott> FrozenInferno, ruby tends to be rather more environment dependent than is sensible
[01:28] <amccloud> Is there a way I can enter an accessibility mode for say headphones?
[01:29] <azmodeus> seems they've not time for me... =(
[01:29] <escott> FrozenInferno, its probably a reflection of the code quality of the server you are running more than anything
[01:29] <d1g1ta1> escott: because I used cp to copy a subfolder tree and the first copy failed (usb) and the second worked, so I need something fault tolerant and self recovering because USB sucks
[01:29] <FrozenInferno> escott: it appears that way. I appreciate your time and effort, hopefully someone releases a more polished version later. I can hope, anyway.
[01:30] <fabio> please someone help me install a wireless usbpen in ubuntu 11.10 please someone help me with this, i tryed to install rt2800usb but the device not functioning
[01:30] <esin> will following these instructions http://www.pendrivelinux.com/installing-ubuntu-to-a-usb-hard-drive/ delete everything that is already on my external hard drive?
[01:30] <d1g1ta1> iceroot: not a terrible idea, I suppose I could use clonezilla... do you know if clonezilla does a verify?
[01:31] <iceroot> d1g1ta1: never used it so i dont know
[01:32] <susan> hello I've installed the gnome3 weather extension but all I have is the round arrow showing.  what did I not do correctly?
[01:33] <escott> d1g1ta1, use a VCS like git
[01:34] <f0gn0l0> thanks for the help, it worked
[01:34] <f0gn0l0> bye all
[01:34] <azmodeus> ok... can I try to ask for a directly question?
[01:34] <iceroot> !ask | azmodeus
[01:34] <Hathadar> Can I get some assistance installing x server.  My problem is detailed  at http://askubuntu.com/questions/90915/troubleshooting-x-server-ee-failed-to-load-module-nv-module-does-not-exist
[01:35] <azmodeus> iceroot, sry! ^^ that's 'cause this isn't my channel... lol...
[01:35] <fabio> please someone help me install a wireless usbpen in ubuntu 11.10 please someone help me with this, i tryed to install rt2800usb but the device not functioning
[01:37] <azmodeus> mmm... does anybody knows if there is an arch-bang or arch-linux channel useful like this one somewhere? i've got some problem with the wifi of my pc... the same kind of problem that's occured with an old installation of kubuntu...
[01:38] <EvilResistance> !alis | azmodeus
[01:40] <fabio> please someone help me install a wireless usbpen in ubuntu 11.10 please someone help me with this, i tryed to install rt2800usb but the device not functioning
[01:40] <escott> Hathadar, to use the proprietary nvidia driver i think you need to run some kind of configuration application to generate the xorg.conf
[01:40] <Hathadar> escott, can you point me in the right direction?
[01:42] <escott> Hathadar, the xorg.0.log suggests that the nvidia driver was loaded so you shouldn't need the nv driver. i would double check if you have an xorg.conf file in /etc/X11
[01:42] <barboza> anyone help
[01:43] <Hathadar> escott, /etc/X11 doe snot contain a xorg.conf
[01:43] <escott> !arch | azmodeus
[01:43] <Hathadar> How would I go about fixing this.
[01:43] <barboza> I can't install the Ubuntu SO
[01:44] <Hathadar> Disregard last.  Googling.
[01:44] <peepsalot> how can a file be unmodifyable by root?
[01:45] <escott> peepsalot, is the filesystem mounted read-only?
[01:45] <peepsalot> escott, no
[01:46] <Yoss> Hi all, i have a little problem with the password on ubuntu 10.04, for some reason i'm not being prompted for it like before (on stuff like package manger and sudo in the terminal )
[01:46] <Yoss> i have checked the sudoers file and it seems fine
[01:46] <Yoss> i'm not logged in as root either
[01:46] <peepsalot> escott, it's ~/.local/share/recently-used.xbel     i see errors all the time that it can't be modified
[01:46] <iceroot> peepsalot: with "chattr" you can disable modifications by root on a file
[01:47] <fabio> please someone help me install a wireless usbpen in ubuntu 11.10 please someone help me with this, i tryed to install rt2800usb but the device not functioning
[01:47] <Yoss> has anyone came across such a thing?
[01:47] <fabio> or someone that can explain me how this drivers modules function so i can fix this
[01:48] <slakcphil> hey all
[01:49] <peepsalot> iceroot, is there a way to list these attributes
[01:49] <fabio> hi slak
[01:49] <fabio> slakcphil u understand good how ubuntu drivers think function?
[01:49] <slakcphil> fabio, huh?
[01:50] <iceroot> peepsalot: lsattr
[01:50] <fabio> slakcphil: im having alot of dificulties in instaling a usb pen wireless card
[01:50] <fabio> slakcphil: maybe u an help me
[01:50] <slakcphil> yeah man shoot, what's up?
[01:51] <escott> Hathadar, rereading that log it looks like X started just fine, but since xterm is not installed it immediately closed. i dont think you have a problem
[01:51] <slakcphil> fabio, what type of chipset is it?
[01:51] <Hathadar> oh..
[01:51] <slakcphil> fabio, lsusb -v
[01:51] <Hathadar> maybe the problem is simpler than I thought.
[01:51] <fabio> slakchpil: is a wn727n tp-link
[01:51] <peepsalot> iceroot, awesome, it had immutable attribute, which i was able to clear as root
[01:52] <slakcphil> show me output in pastebin or somewhere
[01:52] <vouth>  Hi, I'm getting an error "compiz (core) - Fatal: Root visual is not a GL visual" when I try to start Compiz. What's happening here?
[01:52] <peepsalot> finally got rid of all those annoying messages
[01:52] <blackshirt> hello, can we ask something related python-apt here ?
[01:52] <slakcphil> fabio, ^^ of lsusb -v
[01:53] <escott> vouth, the drivers for you graphics card are not installed/working. you might try use jockey-gtk to enable the proprietary drivers
[01:53] <fabio> the computer im trying to install it dont have internet connection
[01:53] <Duker> Any ideas why I cant get video playback on 11.10, but flash videos and everything else works fine?
[01:53] <fabio> slakcphil: maybe u can tell me what to look in the command and i tell u
[01:53] <Duker> Using intel hd graphics 3000
[01:54] <escott> Duker, likely a problem with the xv protocol. you might test that with mplayer
[01:54] <Duker> escott: Yea, mplayer
[01:54] <Duker> How can I repair that protocol?
[01:54] <escott> Duker, try mplayer -vo x11 or mplayer -vo gl to test
[01:55] <Duker> Ok, thanks
[01:55] <fabio> but if i lsusb i get the device in bus 002 device004: Ralink tecnology
[01:56] <vouth> escott: jockey-gtk says it can't connect to the server.
[01:56] <slakcphil> fabio ok just do lsusb and tell me what chipset you have
[01:56] <Duker> escott: that returned 'the program 'mplayer' can be found in the following packages: * mplayer * mplayer2
[01:57] <Duker> Both commansd
[01:57] <Duker> commands*
[01:57] <vouth> escott: The exact error message was: "Downloading package indexes failed, please check your network status. Most drivers will not be available."
[01:57] <supermanintights> hey guys
[01:57] <escott> Duker, in that case you don't have mplayer installed. you could install it or perhaps some other tools will let you specify how to draw the video. I know you can test it with mplayer though
[01:57] <fabio> slakcphil: well i think is a wn727n inst tgis the chipset?
[01:58] <Duker> I'll install it, but I was getting the same error with VLC
[01:58] <escott> vouth, thats an apt error. check that your apt mirror /etc/apt/sources.list is up
[01:58] <supermanintights> i've used ubuntu several versions ago, and i'm thinking of coming back - but i'd like to get some open feedback?
[01:58] <supermanintights> i'm currently running a hackintosh and i really hate it
[01:58] <supermanintights> so i'm torn between win7 and ubuntu - i'm open to running both, but no idea what people recommend
[01:59] <slakcphil> fabio, what is the output of   `cat /etc/lsb-release`  ?
[01:59] <clear`> your in an ubuntu room, i would think we would recommend ubuntu....
[01:59] <Tux> supermanintights, asking in here means we recommend ubuntu obviously
[01:59] <Tux> Your best bet is #defocus, I guess
[02:00] <warfaren> what do you find so bad about hackintosh btw? i'm just curious
[02:00] <supermanintights> it feels limited
[02:00] <fabio> slakcphil: it says Bus 002 Device 004: ID 148f:5370 Ralink Tecnology, Corp.
[02:00] <fabio> slakcphil: the output is ubuntu 11.10
[02:00] <Tech-1> loosen your tights, manup, then go for ubuntu.
[02:00] <supermanintights> (and i get that you guys will say ubuntu - i was going to just see how the feeling is now, compared to how it used to be)
[02:00] <clear`> supermanintights: what software do you need daily?
[02:01] <Duker> escott: installed mplayer, still having the same problem - I can hear the audio of the video file, but my screen just flashes using both mplayer and VLC
[02:01] <ceed^> Hi, can anyone tell me if Dropbox runs well in Unity?
[02:01] <escott> Duker, how did you run mplayer?
[02:01] <warfaren> i've only been using ubuntu since august so only a few months now. i was a windows user before that. i will never go back :)
[02:01] <Tux> ceed^, i think so
[02:01] <vouth> escott: I ran sudo apt-get update and it produced the same error.
[02:01] <Tux> I've used Linux on and off for 4 years
[02:02] <Duker> escott: I double click the video file, or right click and select open with
[02:02] <vouth> escott: that is, jockey-gtk produced the same error when I ran it again.
[02:02] <Tux> I'm using Ubuntu right now
[02:02] <escott> Duker, open a terminal and type mplayer -vo x11 /path/to/your/video/file
[02:02] <warfaren> i was testing it out back in the day and thought it seemed cool but only when i installed it on my primary computer for real (not in a VM) i got hooked
[02:02] <supermanintights> my main concern - i need photoshop/dropbox/dreamweaver/vlc/office (currently using open office - prefer windows but meh)/internet - with flash/video support (had problems playing youtube smoothly before on ubuntu - do with osx as well)/skype/ps3 media centre
[02:02] <elliottsup> Hello
[02:02] <escott> vouth, (a) are you online (b) is the mirror listed in /etc/apt/sources.list working?
[02:03] <fabio> slakcphil: i tryed to install rt2800usb i think i have installed it but device not functioning
[02:03] <supermanintights> and also occasionally gaming but that's not my biggest priority - steam games (CSS, Football manager etc.)
[02:03] <warfaren> photoshop runs in wine, dropbox exists natively for linux, VLC is native too, open office aswell
[02:03] <monstaRtruck> hi
[02:03] <warfaren> about dreamewaver i don't know but i suppose it will run in wine
[02:03] <monstaRtruck> how come im getting boot error booting from usb
[02:03] <monstaRtruck> but from cd it works
[02:03] <clear`> dreamweaver and photoshop would be the only two problems, but you can run them on wine
[02:03] <somsip> supermanintights: some versions of photoshop may run under wine, but you might struggle with dreamweaver. Libre office is fine with office docs, though some PPT don't quite fit
[02:03] <Tux> supermanintights, (1) GIMP (2) dropbox will work (3) bluefish (4) vlc works (5) libreoffice is bundled (6) flash works smoothly under firefox for me
[02:03] <elliottsup> If i install Ubuntu on my Win7 Laptop, can i still boot Win7 when strating the laptop?
[02:03] <vouth> escott: (a) Yes (b) No clue
[02:04] <clear`> or you can setup virtualbox to run win
[02:04] <vouth> escott: How would I check (b)?
[02:04] <Tux> elliottsup, are you using Wubi?
[02:04] <elliottsup> What is Wubi?
[02:04] <escott> vouth, look at the file and put the http link there into your browser
[02:04] <slakcphil> fabio , what do you see in `/sbin/ifconfig -a`
[02:04] <slakcphil> what devices
[02:04] <Tux> elliottsup, are you booting from any sort of CD or DVD?
[02:05] <elliottsup> No
[02:05] <Tux> You are using Wubi most likely. The answer is yes.
[02:05] <supermanintights> so for my use/needs - definitely ubuntu over windows?  I'm new to terminal (although have used in past - sudo apt-get update being my main one :P), but i'm computer savvy enough to pick it up
[02:05] <Tux> supermanintights, yes.
[02:05] <fabio> slakcphil: it gives output
[02:05] <supermanintights> the only other thing is - i want to get into media editing - what's ubuntu's support for it like?
[02:05] <Duker> escott: nothing seems to be happening in the terminal, it was mplayer -vo x11 /path/to/file/arrested development - 01.avi   Would that normally work?
[02:05] <clear`> i rarely use terminal, i am still new to ubuntu also
[02:05] <fabio> slakcphil: it says link encap:Local loopback
[02:05] <elliottsup> so i can still get windows after installing Ubuntu?
[02:06] <slakcphil> fabio, of course, you see any wlan0 or ath0? or whatever?
[02:06] <clear`> elliottsup: you can setup grub to dual boot
[02:06] <Tux> supermanintights, fair, might need a windows vm for windows-only stuff
[02:06] <escott> Duker, since you have spaces in the filename it needs to be quoted or escaped try "/path/to/file/arrested development - 01.avi"
[02:06] <Tux> elliottsup, yes
[02:06] <supermanintights> i did love it before - my only reason for going away from windows was the issue with my wifi card - i'm hopeing that's fixed now
[02:06] <slakcphil> fabio do a `sudo ifconfig wlan0 up`
[02:06] <fabio> slakcphil: then shows inet addr:126.0.0.1
[02:06] <fabio> no
[02:06] <slakcphil> no what?
[02:06] <Tux> clear`, hes using wubi
[02:06] <fabio> says loopback runing
[02:06] <supermanintights> *going away from ubuntu i maen
[02:06] <fabio> no wlan0
[02:07] <slakcphil> right that is your local loopback device
[02:07] <Duker> escott: Holy Jesus, it works - how can I make double clicking a video file work?
[02:07] <vouth> escott: here's my /etc/apt/sources.list: http://pastebin.com/mU4tHQ2d The first link in the file, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu , opens fine in the browser.
[02:08] <slakcphil> fabio, do a `ifconfig wlan0 up` and tell me what happens... if no error do a `ifconfig -a` and see if there is a wlan0 card there
[02:08] <warfaren> supermanintights: what wifi card were you using? most of the time it's just a question of sorting out the driver
[02:08] <fabio> when i search for wlan0 it says no such device
[02:08] <slakcphil> fabio, search?
[02:08] <EvilResistance> fabio:  how are you 'searching'?
[02:08] <supermanintights> so final questions (and really appreciate the insight and input - love the community here) - is it easy enough to "wine" gaming? Counterstrike Source/Football Manager (steam), and can you boost the sound loud (I have hearing impairment and like to really boost the sound - OSX won't let me do that) with media
[02:08] <fabio> slackcphill: in that comand ifconfig wlanup
[02:08] <Duker> Looks like i need ffmpeg libavcodec? Where might I find that
[02:08] <supermanintights> warfaren, i was using the same as now
[02:08] <fabio> it says error while geting interface
[02:08] <supermanintights> realtek something
[02:08] <fabio> no such device
[02:09] <supermanintights> there was a big problem on ubuntu with it
[02:09] <Tech-1> Duker:  sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[02:09] <slakcphil> did you type        sudo /sbin/ifconfig wlan0 up
[02:09] <warfaren> well there's always ndiswrapper as a last resort which will let you use a windows driver
[02:09] <slakcphil> or what you typed in the chat?
[02:09] <supermanintights> long shot - any way of bringing up your wifi card name on OSX if OSX doesn't support your wifi card?
[02:09] <supermanintights> (long shot on many levels, i know)
[02:09] <warfaren> lspci ?
[02:09] <Tux> supermanintights, http://appdb.winehq.org is your destination to search for wine stufff
[02:09] <escott> Duker, does it work with -vo xv
[02:10] <escott> !restricted | Duker
[02:10] <fabio> slackcphil: now i did it with the sbin/ and no
[02:10] <fabio> says no such device
[02:10] <warfaren> supermanintights: try lspci in the OSX terminal
[02:11] <supermanintights> command not found
[02:11] <supermanintights> fml
[02:11] <supermanintights> i should write this down so i dont' need to keep remembering
[02:11] <warfaren> alright. well i guess it's nothing apple include then
[02:11] <EvilResistance> warfaren:  that's apple :p
[02:11] <warfaren> hehe
[02:11] <Duker> how can I get the mpg123 codec?
[02:11] <supermanintights> 9128se
[02:11] <Duker> same way?
[02:11] <supermanintights> rtl 9128se
[02:11] <supermanintights> something like that
[02:11] <warfaren> okay
[02:12] <clear`> i think thats the same card i have...
[02:12] <supermanintights> my laptop is a toshiba satellite a-500 if that helps
[02:12] <clear`> i have a l605
[02:12] <fabio> i have read this on the web now "#The WN727N only needs the rt2870sta driver. maybe i should not have instaled the rt2800usb
[02:12] <supermanintights> it's basically the only card that OSX DOESN'T support (trust my luck)
[02:12] <FrozenInferno> Can someone help me set up a VPN server? I've got pptpd installed and i've configured the local and remote ip addresses, configured the clients' names/passwords/etc, enabled ipv4 forwarding, but I still am unable to connect.
[02:12] <clear`> ubuntu 11.10 detected my card just fine, all other versions it sucked
[02:13] <warfaren> supermanintights: is that a laptop you're on?
[02:13] <supermanintights> yeah
[02:13] <fabio> slakcphil: i have read this on the web now "#The WN727N only needs the rt2870sta driver. maybe i should not have instaled the rt2800usb
[02:13] <supermanintights> a laptop that will die soon, as i'm pretty sure it overheats for fun, but yeah, a lappy
[02:13] <warfaren> oh fun
[02:14] <supermanintights> yeah
[02:14] <supermanintights> not much i can do about it
[02:14] <supermanintights> as it's just out of warranty
[02:14] <clear`> try ubuntu live cd
[02:14] <supermanintights> (i swear it's on purpose), but i'll live with it
[02:15] <fabio> slakcphil: u there
[02:15] <supermanintights> it worked fine on 10.10 but soon as i upgraded to 11.04 it went psycho on me
[02:15] <escott> vouth, odd. that looks normal. so apt-get update cannot find the index files
[02:15] <supermanintights> eventually had to move back to windows as i couldn't fix it
[02:15] <clear`> do a fresh install
[02:15] <Duker> I think I was missing the RestrictedFormats? Doesn't sound like an ideal format
[02:15] <supermanintights> is it easier to use the usb or cd to install ubuntu?
[02:16] <clear`> i use usb
[02:16] <vouth> escott: well, the apt-get update command seemed to work fine. It's only when I run jockey-gtk that I have the problem
[02:16] <monstaRtruck> why do i get "boot error"
[02:16] <supermanintights> also - what's the calendar support for the ical format like?  I run an apartments business and need to sync to calendars with a very regular update rate
[02:16] <monstaRtruck> fromusb
[02:16] <escott> supermanintights, usb is faster if it works, but cd is more consistent in working across machines (if you can burn a good one)
[02:16] <Anamika_> i need help
[02:17] <EvilResistance> !ask | Anamika_
[02:17] <fabio> slakcphil: u there please
[02:17] <EvilResistance> just ask here about your issue, don't just saay "I need help"
[02:17] <EvilResistance> :P
[02:17] <EvilResistance> Anamika_:  ^
[02:17] <supermanintights> that was one of the reasons i got sick of windows and moved to mac - easier support for it, as running so many different apps for similar things were putting me off
[02:17] <slakcphil> when you installed the rt2800usb, what did you do?
[02:17] <fabio> i need help with this usb pen wireless....
[02:18] <fabio> was someone here reiso he told me a command to install it
[02:18] <azmodeus> why could it be that the dash on ubuntu 11.10 goes crazy when I try to use it?
[02:18] <vouth> escott: Here's the output of sudo apt-get update: http://pastebin.com/K9Qstv2J
[02:18] <slakcphil> fabio, check the ouput of history
[02:18] <slakcphil> t
[02:19] <slakcphil> `history`
[02:19] <fabio> slakcphil: i dont have it anymore i tryed alot of stuff
[02:19] <supermanintights> also - what's the calendar support for the ical format like?  I run an apartments business and need to sync to calendars with a very regular update rate
[02:20] <escott> vouth, go to software-sources and make sure that the proprietary drivers are enabled ('restricted')
[02:20] <iiu7> What tools exists on Ubuntu to post on usenet nbz files?
[02:20] <fabio> slakcphil: im readin something about wicd can u tell me how?
[02:21] <vouth> escott: the box "Proprietary drivers for devices (restricted)" is checke
[02:21] <vouth> escott: um, that was supposed to be 'checked'
[02:22] <Hathadar> Can I get some help getting x server running.  Updated problem detailed at http://askubuntu.com/questions/90915/troubleshooting-x-server-ee-failed-to-load-module-nv-module-does-not-exist
[02:22] <escott> vouth, you could try reinstalling jockey maybe it is messed up. but first do a sudo apt-get upgrade just to make sure you are current
[02:22] <supermanintights> also - what's the calendar support for the ical format like?  I run an apartments business and need to sync to calendars with a very regular update rate?  pretty much the only thing i need to confirm before i make the switch :)
[02:22] <oneliner> so, after a nightmerish graphics ordeal, happens that 11.10 also has faulty realtek Ethernet support?
[02:23] <vouth> escott: the only things it wants to upgrade are chromium-browser, chromium-browser-l10n, and chromium-codecs-ffmpeg, none of which I want to update. So I had it take no action
[02:23] <vouth> escott: Is it vital that I upgrade them? I have the .debs for the version I like so I can always revert if necessary
[02:23] <fabio> slakcphil: does this helps u helping me :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1340584
[02:24] <azmodeus> can somebody tell me why should it be possible? the dash that goes crazy... it seems like ubuntu 11.04 on my first installation... XD
[02:25] <escott> vouth, no those shouldn't matter. i would start jockey from the command line to see if it gives any more detailed error messages. there is also a jockey-text
[02:26] <Duker> Hmm, still cant seem to get anything to play in movie player or vlc, restrictedformats didnt seem to do the trick
[02:26] <escott> Duker, did it work with mplayer -vo xv?
[02:26] <supermanintights> sorry to keep asking - but it's important to me - what's the calendar support for the ical format like?  I run an apartments business and need to sync to calendars with a very regular update rate?  pretty much the only thing i need to confirm before i make the switch :)
[02:26] <nathan10> needing help with connecting my ibook G4 PPC to internet, wired or wireless
[02:27] <Duker> I did with mplayer -vo x11 but I was unable to full screen it, sait it was missing mpg123 codec, so I installed the restrictedformats to no avial
[02:27] <escott> Duker, and what about -vo xv?
[02:28] <nathan10> is there anyone here that has expirence with ubuntu on PPC macs?
[02:29] <xangua> !ppc | nathan10
[02:30] <amagee> hey, does anyone have any hints for setting up dual monitors with an NVidia card and xinerama in ubuntu 11.10?  I just upgraded and when I set up my monitors in nvidia-settings as I usually do, then restart, most windows don't open, some do but don't have title bars, and I can't click on anything and the system is entirely unusable.
[02:31] <_rb_> looking to install a lxmark printer driver. Options are:Debian based or RPM. Which should I use?
[02:31] <nathan10> ubottu | i got 8.04 installed, then upgraded to 10.04 from there, i've dug through the support documents on the ubuntu homepage and the forums, but everything i find there hasn't really helped.
[02:32] <nathan10> xangua | i got 8.04 installed, then upgraded to 10.04 from there, i've dug through the support documents on the ubuntu homepage and the forums, but everything i find there hasn't really helped.
[02:32] <Duker> escott: I got the message 'ff_codec_bmp_tags'has different size in shared object, consider relinking - then the screen flashed for a while and now it seems to think it is playing in the terminal, but no audio or anything
[02:33] <escott> Duker, because xv is not working.
[02:33] <Duker> Also my windows seem to be gone
[02:33] <Duker> As in I cant manage them
[02:33] <Duker> They are still there though
[02:33] <Duker> How do I fix xv?
[02:34] <escott> Duker, you can work around it for now by using gstreamer to set the output to x11 (no xv)
[02:35] <Duker> Will I be unable to just double click media files until then?
[02:36] <escott> Duker, change the output in gstreamer-properties to not use xv
[02:36] <Duker> escott: Thanks :D
[02:36] <Duker> Where can I find those properties? (sorry)
[02:37] <escott> Duker, in gstreamer-properties
[02:37] <amagee> like, so far the only "solutions" i've seen in forums are "use windows" and "use debian", neither of which are particularly palatable
[02:37] <Duker> putting 'gstreamer-properties' in the ubuntu search bar thing yeilds nothing
[02:38] <escott> Duker, gstreamer-properties can be run from the terminal
[02:39] <Duker> Ooh, my default output device is unsuported, could that be a problem
[02:39] <_rb_> this printer driver seems to require root password. Any options other than enabling root?
[02:39] <phix> hey gang!
[02:40] <phix> _rb_: It shouldn't require root for printing, only to install / change the driver
[02:40] <phix> _rb_: the user needs to be a member of lp or something like that in order to manage the print spool
[02:41] <Duker> using no xv hsa fixed the video problem, took my audio away though - I imagine thats also in gstreamer-properties
[02:41] <_rb_> phix driver installation poped a dialog box saying "this installation requires root...." typing my password does not work.
[02:41] <escott> _rb_, where did you get this driver from?
[02:42] <phix> _rb_: is the driver install a shell script?  you can modify it :)
[02:42] <_rb_> it is for a lexmark x4650 got it from lexmark.com
[02:43] <phix> And the generic postscript drivers dont work with it?
[02:44] <rmichael> Hello.  What controls the permissions on automounted volumes under /media?  I want to force the UID = 1000.  (As the fstab uid=X option would do.)  Thanks!
[02:44] <escott> rmichael, if you dont put it in fstab udisks should mount on behalf of users in the plugdev group
[02:45] <escott> _rb_, check here first http://www.openprinting.org/printers
[02:45] <_rb_> phix tried a generic printer and that did not work. Enabled root and driver seems to have installed.
[02:46] <rmichael> escott, it mounts.  But with the "wrong" UID.  I need to force it to 1000 (the filesystem is from another system which has me at 500).
[02:46] <escott> rmichael, if it is a unix fileystem then the uid of the files is in the filesystem you would have to chown the files
[02:47] <rmichael> escott, I should be able to force the change.  fstab options will do this.  What is doing the automounting?
[02:47] <Javeloz_Shadowsp> Grah <_v
[02:48] <supermanintights> what file system should i format my usb stick to install ubuntu?  i'm running a hackintosh (so osx snow leopard)
[02:48] <yuler> Sometimes a menu box will stay on-screen, becoming like a top layer.  I cannot select it or access it, but the only way I know how to get rid of it is to logout and login.   I can paste a screenshot if I have an URL to paste to.  What can I do to fix this so it never happens again?
[02:48] <escott> rmichael, the option would be the uid and gid options
[02:48] <_rb_> hmmm driver may have installed but printer not printing. !@#
[02:48] <rmichael> escott, Yes, in the /etc/fstab file.  /media/* automounting is not in the fstab.  What is controlling it?  (I want to configure it.)
[02:49] <imanc1> hey folks I have a "waiting for lock on localhost:xxx" type issue with a program I'm trying to run on the cmd line. What command can I use to list which processes and bound to which ports?
[02:49] <escott> rmichael, udisks
[02:49] <rmichael> escott, Ok, where is it configured?
[02:49] <Duker> any reason to get into samba prefs from the terminal? Nothing happens when I try and launch the application 'samba'
[02:49] <Duker> Any way*
[02:50] <escott> rmichael, no idea, probably cant be done with udisks. add an fstab entry
[02:50] <escott> !samba | Duker
[02:50] <escott> imanc1, lsof
[02:50] <escott> imanc1, and netstat
[02:51] <_rb_> do I un-install a driver via the software center?
[02:51] <supermanintights> hey lads - what file system should i format my usb stick to install ubuntu?  i'm running a hackintosh (so osx snow leopard)
[02:51] <Duker> ubottu: thanks :D
[02:51] <imanc1> escott: thanks - lsof did the trick. I just nuked/-9 the b******
[02:53] <Duker> No way to get into the samba settings thing where I can set up the shares? Or is it likely i've installed it incorrectly if nothing is happening after I give it my password when I try to launch it
[02:53] <rypervenche> supermanintights: If you won't be using Windows at all, ext4 is good.
[02:53] <escott> Duker, samba is a server process not a gui. you want one of the gui config utilities like swat
[02:53] <supermanintights> is it easy to set up a dualboot?
[02:54] <Duker> escott: Ahh, I see, thank you :D
[02:54] <rypervenche> supermanintights: Pretty easy, yep.
[02:54] <supermanintights> then i'll probably do a dual boot, keeping ubuntu as main
[02:54] <vouth> escott: Sorry for the delay :-P Running sudo jockey-text: http://pastebin.com/fKq5qiet and then it dropped me back to a prompt.
[02:55] <supermanintights> rypervenche, what would you recommend i do first, i have both ubuntu downloaded and windows on a dvd
[02:55] <rypervenche> supermanintights: You want to dual boot with Windows?
[02:55] <rypervenche> supermanintights: Install Windows first. Otherwise you will have problems.
[02:55] <fabiof> i have reinstalled the ubuntu 11.10 again cuz of this usb wireless pen, ubuntu dont recongnizes the pen
[02:55] <fabiof> help please
[02:55] <supermanintights> rypervenche, yeah, right now - neither are installed.
[02:55] <lalagirl> hiiiiiiiii everyone!!!!!!!!!!
[02:56] <supermanintights> ok, great - thanks, i would have done ubuntu first so thanks
[02:56] <elsid> hello all
[02:56] <elsid> having issues with theme
[02:56] <elsid> if anyone can help
[02:56] <escott> vouth, i dont know whats going on there. obviously something buggy with jockey
[02:56] <supermanintights> how much should i do with windows - install all standard drivers? or doesn't it matter - i've never ran a dual boot before
[02:56] <clear`> 50gb or so
[02:56] <vouth> escott: I'll reinstall it then
[02:56] <Duker> How can I edit smb.conf? I get to it manually and its read only
[02:56] <clear`> depending on the software your going to install
[02:56] <fabiof> i have reinstalled the ubuntu 11.10 again cuz of this usb wireless pen, ubuntu dont recongnizes the pen some help please
[02:56] <lalagirl> supermanintights hi
[02:57] <supermanintights> hi lalagirl
[02:57] <escott> Duker, gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[02:57] <Duker> escott: ty
[02:57] <lalagirl> supermanintights what i would do is install Windows and then use Wubi to dualboot Windows and Ubuntu
[02:58] <fabiof> escott: can u please help me with this pen?
[02:58] <supermanintights> is wubi a windows software?
[02:58] <fabiof> yes superman
[02:58] <lalagirl> supermanintights Wubi is made for Windows
[02:58] <xangua> !dualboot | supermanintights lalagirl
[02:58] <elsid> anyone know why I installed a theme and the changes were lost even thought all settings are still active?
[02:59] <fabiof> escott: can u please help me with this pen?
[02:59] <lalagirl> xangua that was unnecessary
[02:59] <fabiof> i have reinstalled the ubuntu 11.10 again cuz of this usb wireless pen, ubuntu dont recongnizes the pen some help please
[02:59] <soreau> fabiof: Try asking your question to the channel
[03:00] <supermanintights> does ubuntu read ntfs well?  i'm just going completely away from OSX - and wondered what file system to format my usb drive to?
[03:00] <almoxarife> fabiof: specifics, make model of 'pen'???
[03:00] <soreau> oh you just did :)
[03:00] <elsid> anyone help?
[03:00] <soreau> ! help | elsid
[03:00] <fabiof> almoxarife: its a wn727n usb pen
[03:00] <fabiof> almoxarife: its a wn727n usb pen ralink
[03:00] <supermanintights> damn, osx doesn't read ntfs - any suggestions for file system that i can do from OSX, that would be read fine by ubuntu and windows?
[03:00] <lalagirl> soreau, he already asked a question, just look up
[03:00] <supermanintights> (i get the stupidity of the question)
[03:00] <escott> supermanintights, fat
[03:00] <elsid> sorry ubotti I did tho
[03:00] <soreau> lalagirl: Yea I see now
[03:01] <supermanintights> straight fat - or fat32?
[03:01] <fabiof> fresh instalation on ubuntu11.10
[03:01] <lalagirl> elsid ubottu is a bot.
[03:01] <elsid> lol awesome
[03:01] <escott> supermanintights, vfat32 (although pretty much any variant except exfat is well supported)
[03:02] <lalagirl> elsid okay what changes were lost?
[03:02] <elsid> I performed these changes
[03:02] <elsid> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-11-10-Desktop-Customization-Guide-242549.shtml
[03:02] <supermanintights> cheers escott et al
[03:03] <elsid> Unity is no longer on the bottom  even though all settings look the same when I go to themes or to compiz
[03:03] <fabiof> i belive iu
[03:03] <almoxarife> fabiof: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsTP-Link <-- look at the portion pertaining to you and follow the instructions
[03:03] <fabiof> i belive i need to install some backport thing but i have no internet on that other compuert maybe i can download it and place it there with a pen
[03:05] <Duker> escott: Is there an easier way to set up a home shared folder or drive without swat?
[03:07] <escott> Duker, I dont use samba so I dont know. might was the channel
[03:07] <Duker> Is there a better option than samba? I see ubuntu has nautalis?
[03:07] <almoxarife> Duker: yeah, use nautilus, right click on the folder and follow the instructions on the 'sharing' tab
[03:07] <escott> Duker, two completely unrelated things
[03:08] <Duker> escott: I see, will nautalis allow me to share folders with a windows machine on the network?
[03:08] <almoxarife> Duker: it will
[03:08] <clean> the beep command doesn't work with my computer, it worked with the computer in my lab, but it doesn't work for my own, anybody know how to solve this?
[03:09] <escott> Duker, it may have some functionality to configure some shares, but samba is the underlying implementation of the protocol
[03:09] <Duker> So keep samba and use nautalis for the share?
[03:09] <iceroot> clean: check "alsamixer" is "beep" is muted
[03:10] <iceroot> if
[03:10] <msignore> Hi
[03:11] <the-master> Hi all, I was wondering if someone could help me
[03:11] <msignore> can you help me in disk partitioning for ubuntu?
[03:11] <the-master> actually, I'm really new to ubuntu, I wish I could
[03:12] <clean> iceroot: yes, I have checked that, and have unmute it
[03:12] <escott> !ask | msignore the-master
[03:12] <clean> iceroot: when I run the command alsamixer, I can see two device, one is displayed as `default' and the other is `Nvidia ..card'
[03:13] <msignore> thanks, i've a 80GB hard disk on my laptop, and i want to install ubuntu and win xp.
[03:13] <clean> iceroot: if I turn on my usb soundbox, I can hear the beep, but when I turn it off, no sound
[03:13] <msignore> how many partition do i neeed?
[03:14] <msignore> (how many partitions with how much space)
[03:14] <clean> iceroot: the sound should be emitted from the mainboard's pc-speaker, not the usb soundbox
[03:14] <elsid> anyone help creating a new user, created new user but can't login?
[03:14] <the-master> okay, so, I've been trying to install samba on my computer, however, I can't get python-glade 2 to install, it keeps asking me to insert a disc into media/cdrom or something of that nature.  I don't have a cd, I have a pen drive that I installed ubuntu from, is there a way to install python-glade2 from the pen drive?
[03:14] <almoxarife> msignore: two for ubuntu at a min
[03:14] <escott> msignore, minimum 1 ( a / partition), recommended 2 (add a swap partition), but you can have more (other popular choices are /boot and /home)
[03:14] <clean> So it's a little strange
[03:15] <Pickleface> hello
[03:15] <Pickleface> my screen resolution has been messed up
[03:15] <Pickleface> ever since I downloaded ubuntu
[03:15] <clean> When I was using Ubuntu 9.04, I can hear the beep when I run shutdown, but no sound now
[03:15] <Pickleface> I have 10.04
[03:15] <escott> msignore, / can be as small as 10-15gigs for a common desktop. swap should be 1-2x ram depending on how much ram you have
[03:15] <v3trae> hey guys, in synaptic when I go to software sources I'm only getting out of country servers (nothing in the US). Not having much luck googling how to fix this particular problem. Any ideas?
[03:15] <clean> I need that beep as a reminder, so I tried the command beep
[03:16] <Berto> Hi - If I'm ssh'd into my remote box (which has a display open), how can I run a command and have the window open on that remote display (not MY local display, but the server's local display)?
[03:16] <Duker> I keep getting 'net usershare' returned error 255:net user/share add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. Invalid parameters
[03:16] <Duker> When setting a folder as shared
[03:17] <escott> Berto, easiest to ssh -X back to the local machine and run the command there
[03:17] <almoxarife> v3trae: did you pick a server from 'other severs'?
[03:17] <Pickleface> hello?
[03:17] <Berto> escott, LOL that would work i suppose
[03:17] <iiu7> Doesn't there exist a good console based news poster for usenet?
[03:18] <the-master> Pickleface:  Have you installed your graphics drivers and firmware?
[03:18] <v3trae> almoxarife: the other servers list is the one I'm checking. The menu which allows you to scan for the best server. There's no US servers on that list
[03:19] <lalagirl> Pickleface I love your name!
[03:19] <vouth> escott: I'm having the same problem once I reinstall jockey. Is there any nice driver management tool other than Jockey I should try?
[03:19] <msignore> i've 1GB ddr2 ram, is it a good partitioning: win xp: 58GB (15GB for WINDOWS drive, 43 for data), ubuntu: 15GB, ubuntu swap: 2GB
[03:20] <Pickleface> lalagirl: thanks :p
[03:20] <v3trae> msignore: provided theres enough space for data on all of those, that sounds fine.
[03:21] <almoxarife> v3trae: choosing 'best server' may show you outside the US servers, I like in the NW, best server chooses canadian servers for me every time, I think its got to do with ping return and voodoo , so yeah, could see it, I chose cal-davis instead
[03:21] <almoxarife> v3trae: like=live
[03:21] <lalagirl> Pickleface try using terminal and type this in: rm ~/.config/monitors.xml
[03:21] <v3trae> almoxarife: it's not JUST when clicking select best server though, Like there's literally just no US servers in the list on the left. I can't even manually select anything.
[03:22] <the-master> can anyone tell me if there is a way to install python-glade2 from a pen drive?
[03:22] <fabiof> can someone please explain me wy when i do -> "sudo modprobe rt5370sta" i get output FATAL: module rt5370sta not found
[03:22] <v3trae> almoxarife: or rather, I can't manually select anything in the US> It's just missing from the list
[03:22] <v3trae> fabiof: sounds like that module isn't in your kernel
[03:22] <almoxarife> v3trae: that would be odd and I can't see why or how to fix it
[03:22] <v3trae> fabiof: that said, I'm not an expert on the subject, so could be wrong
[03:22] <v3trae> almoxarife: yeah lol, same. Very confusing
[03:22] <fabiof> ok can i add it with no internet connection?
[03:23] <fabiof> like downloading here and place it there with usbpen
[03:23] <v3trae> fabiof: i'm not sure how to add kernel support in ubuntu tbh. My experience has always been in systems where I was compiling my own kernel.
[03:23] <almoxarife> v3trae: you tried to pick from 'other....... server'
[03:23] <v3trae> almoxarife: there is no other
[03:24] <almoxarife> v3trae: you on a vpn?
[03:24] <escott> vouth, if you know what driver you need you can install it with apt
[03:24] <v3trae> almoxarife: not on the machine i'm doing this from no
[03:25] <fabiof> man almoxarife im trying to follow that link u gave to me but.... problems when i do the first line of this supose guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10889095&postcount=8
[03:25] <almoxarife> v3trae: can't help you, 'other' has always been an option I see
[03:25] <fabiof> sais i dont have that mod
[03:25] <v3trae> almoxarife: roger, appreciate it.
[03:26] <the-master> can anyone tell me if I can install python-glade2 from a pen drive instead of a cd?
[03:26] <fabiof> i tryed to make the file it gives error about  rt5370sta.ko
[03:26] <msignore> thanks, bye ...
[03:28] <Duker> How do I install the GUI tool from the system-config-samba package
[03:30] <the-master> is there an alternative to samba that doesn't use python-glade2, maybe?
[03:31] <fabiof> please someone help me installing rt5370sta.ko
[03:31] <lalagirl> !info rt5370sta.ko
[03:32] <fabiof> thats wy i need to put it there
[03:32] <fabiof> right?
[03:34] <blackshirt> hello
[03:34] <lalagirl> hi
[03:34] <blackshirt> hi lalagirl
[03:34] <lalagirl> hi blackshirt
[03:34] <Duker> Hmm, system-config-samba doesn't seem to show after I put in my password
[03:35] <blackshirt> lalagirl: can we ask here related to python-apt.. ?
[03:35] <lalagirl> blackshirt uh……… sure?
[03:37] <Duker> Figured it out, was missing python-glade and python-glade2 it seems
[03:39] <blackshirt> lalagirl: i want to know, is it posible to redirect python output from console to web browser ?
[03:39] <WilliamHerry> there are so many login and quit message, can i block that?
[03:40] <WilliamHerry> in xchat
[03:40] <lalagirl> excuse me, let me try typing something
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[03:40] <lalagirl> hi aBound !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:41] <aBound> lalagirl, HA! Howdy  and happy early new years eve. :P
[03:41] <lalagirl> thanks aBound !!! i missed you!
[03:41] <EvilResistance> lalagirl:  don't do that again :P
[03:42] <lalagirl> EvilResistance do what again?
[03:42] <blackshirt> aBound: i want to know, is it posible to redirect python output from console to web browser ?
[03:42] <EvilResistance> lalagirl:  the post with many many chars :P
[03:42] <vouth> escott: It's a VIA KM400.
[03:42] <escott> vouth, oh via... that probably not well supported
[03:42] <lalagirl> EvilResistance i know i was just testing
[03:43] <aBound> lalagirl, HA! I missed you too lalagirl.
[03:43] <vouth> escott: I'm not sure what driver it needs— fglrx, mesa, nouveau, something?
[03:43] <EvilResistance> lalagirl:  #test ;P
[03:43] <vouth> escott: hmm.
[03:43] <fabiof> please someone help me installing rt5370sta.ko please
[03:43] <the-master> Is there a way to install python-glade2 without a CD?
[03:43] <aBound> black, Haven't much of a clue not familiar with Python. Sorry bud. :-(
[03:44] <aBound> blackshirt, Haven't much of a clue not familiar with Python. Sorry bud. hehe
[03:44] <lalagirl> the-master sudo apt-get install python-glade2
[03:44] <lalagirl> !info python-glade2
[03:44] <the-master> lalagirl: tried that, about halfway through, it asks me to insert a CD...
[03:45] <vouth> escott: Any advice on what driver to use? If it's not well supported, is there a way to make Ubuntu use the CPU for compositing?
[03:46] <lalagirl> the-master dpkg -L python-glade2
[03:46] <aBound> blackshirt, From what this module states for Python, it might be possible: http://docs.python.org/library/webbrowser.html
[03:47] <blackshirt> aBound: okey, go to link
[03:47] <lalagirl> the-master http://linuxappfinder.com/package/python-glade2
[03:47] <fabiof> ok maybe im beeing stupid but in this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsTP-Link i see 2 cards wn727n one that uzes rt5370sta and another that uzes rt2870sta
[03:47] <aBound> blackshirt, Looks like the module exist in the Python library too.
[03:48] <fabiof> how do i know whats the one i have?
[03:48] <christopher> HI
[03:48] <lalagirl> christopher hi
[03:48] <christopher> HOW DO YOU INSTALL FLASH PLAYER ON UBUNTU?
[03:48] <mfroes> hi guys.. i have a ext4 partition that i am trying to make everyont from the group 1001 to be able to mount and write to device. here is my fstab http://pastebin.com/MaBJuR5q
[03:49] <lalagirl> !caps | christopher
[03:49] <christopher> sorry about that
[03:49] <christopher> i really need flash xD
[03:49] <aBound> lalagirl, Tell em lalagirl. :P
[03:49] <lalagirl> christopher sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[03:50] <lalagirl> christopher sudo update-flashplugin
[03:51] <lalagirl> christopher sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 /usr/lib/libesd.so.1
[03:51] <tiox> Low priority, GNOME 3: How can I run any control center "caplett" from command line?
[03:51] <fabiof> pff i didnt knew it would be this coomplicated to get the pen to work
[03:51] <lalagirl> christopher ln -s /tmp/.esd-1000 /tmp/.esd
[03:51] <Elliotthelp> Hello again
[03:51] <lalagirl> Elliotthelp Hi
[03:51] <christopher> i dont know to use ubuntu lol some idiot took out my harddrive and now im stuck with this program
[03:51] <Elliotthelp> i have another question/problem
[03:51] <christopher> ill get back my windows 7
[03:52] <lalagirl> Elliotthelp sure what is it?
[03:52] <Elliotthelp> I have installed steam using wine, but when i run steam it will say connecting to account (username) then just disapear
[03:53] <tiox> Odd request, but I want to tie sound to a keyboard shortcut using the XF86RaiseAudio key
[03:53] <pangolin> Elliotthelp: #winehq will probably be more help
[03:53] <lalagirl> Elliotthelp wine isn't the greatest of all emulators to run Windows programs...
[03:53] <veryshiny> can someone point me to a good gtk3 theme collection? I can't seem to find any besides the ones on deviantart and gnomelook
[03:53] <tiox> lalagirl: Wine Is Not an Emulator!
[03:53] <Belial`> anyone happen to be using the faenza blue dark icon set?
[03:54] <lalagirl> Elliotthelp probably better to use windows instead
[03:54] <aBound> Elliotthelp, WINE is more or less an emulator that tries to implement the Windows API.
[03:54] <tiox> Elliotthelp: Follow lala's advice and go to #winehq, but also check out the entry on Wine's appdb
[03:54] <mfroes> anyone knows how to fiddle with fstab and ext4 ?
[03:55] <somsip> Elliotthelp: https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Steam_under_Linux
[03:55] <tiox> Clarifying my request: I want to know how I can invoke the sound preferences from command line so I can tie it to a keyboard shortcut, like Ctrl+XF86RaiseAudio
[03:56] <vouth> wow, wth, while I was emptying the Nautilus trash, the music playing in Banshee suddenly jumped up like 4 octaves and doubled in tempo.
[03:57] <lalagirl> vouth haha thats funny
[03:57] <escott> mfroes, use sudo blkid to identify the uuid and then make an entry for your fstab partition. it should look like your other entries
[03:57] <tiox> That is a very odd error.
[03:57] <samijam> tiox, go into settings --> Keyboard --> click on shortcuts tab and then click on custom shortcuts
[03:58] <the-master> lalagirl: Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[03:58] <vouth> lalagirl, not when some awesome symphonic power metal suddenly comes out sounding like a bunch of preschoolers having a Christmas pageant :-D
[03:58] <the-master> CD/DVD 'Ubuntu 11.10 _Oneiric Ocelot_ - Release i386 (20111012)' is required
[03:58] <samijam> tiox, sorry, just saw the first part of your question....
[03:58] <tiox> Might be onto something there.
[03:58] <vouth> (nothing against Christmas pageants of course but still, that's not exactly how metal's supposed to sound…)
[03:58] <lalagirl> the-master just put in the ubuntu cd
[03:58] <tiox> But yeah, any time I do an xprop on anything in the contreol center it just comes up as control center.
[03:59] <lalagirl> vouth hahaaahaahahahahahahahaa that was really funny
[03:59] <tiox> control*
[04:00] <vouth> lalagirl: :-D I fixed it by unplugging and then replugging-in the cord to the speakers.
[04:00] <aBound> Now I have a simple question does anybody on 11.10 or 12.04 Alpha 1 have any broken keyboard shortcuts that can't be set?
[04:00]  * vouth is now TOTALLY mystified…
[04:00] <veryshiny> aBound I cannot bind alt-f2
[04:00] <veryshiny> I'm running 11.10
[04:01] <tiox> vouth: Makes me wanna take a metal song and pass it through a few filters in audacity.
[04:01] <aBound> veryshiny, I know what you mean except I can't bind any keyboard shortcuts.
[04:01] <aBound> I want to set crtl-z to my terminal but seems I can't set any keys to my terminal or any other app for that matter.
[04:01] <mrdeb> do you know why mouse turns off after screen goes black and not comes back
[04:01] <mrdeb> ??
[04:01] <aBound> Seems like it's broken.
[04:02] <aBound> veryshiny, I used 10.04 lts a few days ago and it worked flawlessly.
[04:02] <aBound> But I'm on 12.04 lts Alpha 1.
[04:02] <mrdeb> abound, how is it
[04:03] <the-master> abound: are you using compizconfig?
[04:04] <curiousx> aloha
[04:04] <curiousx> i have a big trouble =P
[04:04] <aBound> mrdeb, 12.04 LTS Alpha 1? Well so far it's lacking flash player, software center is unstable and it's using Firefox 10. I'm using gnome-shell and it doesn't use compiz so you have to have Unity.
[04:04] <mrdeb> do u like it
[04:04] <mrdeb> oh sorry, this is not the chat for it
[04:04] <aBound> The gnome-shell project explicitly stated they didn't want compiz.
[04:05] <curiousx> i installed "libglib2.0-cil" and now i can not remove
[04:05] <mrdeb> wellgnome shell is fortablets
[04:05] <aBound> mrdeb, I like it seems a bit more stable than 11.10.
[04:05] <aBound> Newer packages exist.
[04:05] <curiousx> i installed bia dpkg
[04:06] <aBound> Hands-down I'd take Ubuntu over any other distribution. Due to the ease of use even Linux Mint.
[04:06] <mrdeb> well idk
[04:07] <aBound> mrdeb, Alpha 1 is more bleeding edge so don't expect things to work if you intend to use it.
[04:07] <zakk> would lsb_release -a on a 9.04 server indicate that it is a server install?
[04:07] <aBound> the-master, Nope on my unity installation yes.
[04:08] <curiousx> and when i want to remove dpkg says: http://paste.ubuntu.com/786497/
[04:08] <curiousx> any idea ?
[04:09] <escott> curiousx, either touch the file or force the purge
[04:09] <the-master> abound: do you know anything about installing python glade 2 without a cd?
[04:09] <mrdeb> well thing is bound, ubuntu is good and fastand nice, but hten soon outdates and bugs set in
[04:10] <curiousx> oh! i forget de command mmm... meybe --force ?
[04:10] <the-master> mrdeb: its that way with any other GUI interface, or any OS for that matter, Android for example, or Windows.
[04:11] <mrdeb> no
[04:11] <the-master> The good thing about Linux based OS is that all the upgrades are free
[04:11] <mrdeb> yes for now
[04:11] <zakk> the bad thing is that upgrading from 9.04 seems like a serious pain in the ass.
[04:12] <the-master> Ubuntu and such prides itself in being free.  I can't imagine we'll ever have to pay for it.  At least not before they start taxing oxygen...
[04:12] <curiousx> escott: touch doesn't work
[04:12] <aBound> the-master, Nope but I would figure it'd be in the repositories but I guess not.
[04:13] <fabiof> i found the exact version of the chipset of my wireless usb pen is a RT5370 i have downloaded the driver http://www.ralinktech.com/en/04_support/support.php?sn=501 but when i go make install i give a error about the rt5370sta.ko
[04:13] <harsh343> how to install giit on ubuntu
[04:13] <escott> curiousx, then remove the file you touched and force it with --force. the error is just noting that the database is out of sync with the fs
[04:13] <harsh343> ?
[04:13] <harsh343>  GIT repositories
[04:13] <escott> harsh343, sudo apt-get install git
[04:14] <the-master> I guess I'll just have to get some blank cd's... I even brought over the .deb files and the support files to the home folder, hoping it would find them there instead of the CD
[04:14] <harsh343> escott, after that
[04:14] <harsh343> ?
[04:14] <EvilResistance> harsh343:  do you mean you want to be able to host git repositories like github does?  or do you mean just how to use git repos?
[04:14] <aBound> the-master, Flash drive might be better these days I presume CDs one day will become the thing of the past.
[04:15] <escott> harsh343, nothing after that. thats how you install git.
[04:15] <Jymmm> How can I increase the resolution?
[04:15] <EvilResistance> escott:  unless he wants to host git repos,  like github does
[04:15] <the-master> I have a flash drive, abound, that's the problem, no matter how hard I try, I can't get python-glade2 to install from it instead of a CD
[04:16] <aBound> the-master, Not even sudo apt-get install glade?
[04:16] <curiousx> escott: i tried but nothing i did: dpkg --force-remove-essential libgtk2.0-cil
[04:16] <d4nt3> how to enter hackforums.net?
[04:16] <fabiof> i found the exact version of the chipset of my wireless usb pen is a RT5370 i have downloaded the driver http://www.ralinktech.com/en/04_support/support.php?sn=501 but when i go make install i give a error " cannot stat 'rt5370sta.ko': no such file or directory"
[04:16] <fabiof> please help me
[04:16] <FloodBot1> fabiof: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:16] <pheeror> hi
[04:16] <the-master> abound: that worked, but I still can't get samba to run
[04:16] <curiousx> and dpkg --force-remove-essential libgtk2.0-cil
[04:17] <pheeror> is there a command i can pass a package name .... and it would start a gui installer for the package
[04:17] <curiousx> excuseme i mean dpkg remove-reinstreq libgtk2.0-cli
[04:17] <pheeror> something like mint-make-cmd in mint
[04:17] <aBound> the-master, I'd figure Samba would have to be configured before it can be used.
[04:17] <d4nt3> how to enter hackforums.net?
[04:17] <the-master> aBound: I can't configure it if I can't get it to run...lol
[04:17] <pheeror> software-center
[04:18] <aBound> the-master, True that.
[04:18] <pheeror> will try at work tomorrow :-)
[04:18] <escott> curiousx, you could also try reinstalling and then removing again
[04:18] <the-master> aBound: Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[04:18] <the-master>  'Ubuntu 11.10 _Oneiric Ocelot_ - Release i386 (20111012)'
[04:18] <the-master> in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press enter
[04:18] <aBound> the-master, Tried uninstalling Samba and reinstalling it?
[04:18] <fabiof> i found the exact version of the chipset of my wireless usb pen is a RT5370 i have downloaded the driver http://www.ralinktech.com/en/04_support/support.php?sn=501 but when i go make install i give a error " cannot stat 'rt5370sta.ko': no such file or directory", please someone try to help me here
[04:18] <clear`> how can i completely remove gnome-shell, i think i have screwed up a few things and i want to start fresh with it
[04:19] <curiousx> escott: dont go give a second
[04:19] <nesoi> is there a good japanese language input for ubuntu? the default one is really quite annoying
[04:19] <aBound> Or purging samba altogether. :p
[04:19] <the-master> aBound: that's the only thing I haven't tried yet, but everything I've read says that there's a bug with Samba that requires a python-glade2 install
[04:19] <the-master> abound: is there a way to file share without Samba?
[04:19] <aBound> the-master, Ahh that's going to be a problem in itself if a bug exist.
[04:20] <escott> curiousx, you could also directly edit the postremoval file /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.postrm
[04:20] <the-master> aBound: I hacked my Wii a while ago, and it now plays movies off my network, I'd like to be able to share my movies with my Wii, and my fiance's laptop...
[04:20] <aBound> the-master, There might be but I'm not to familiar with file-sharing through Samba or any other remote file/print services.
[04:20] <vouth> How can I stop the X server temporarily for maintentance?
[04:21] <the-master> aBound:  That makes two of us, I'm a fast learner, everything I've learned, I've learned through trial and error over the last two days
[04:21] <harsh343> EvilResistance,  I have the git repository details and  i have to download Gitt which is a GUI for managing GIT repositories.
[04:21] <harsh343> I have the ssh and password, setup the Git infrastructure required to manage my Dashboard code.
[04:22] <the-master> Just changed from WinXP to oneiric
[04:22] <Guest58128> jackd 2 will not connect the error is :Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
[04:22] <harsh343> I do not know more about gitt
[04:22] <fabiof> i found the exact version of the chipset of my wireless usb pen is a RT5370 i have downloaded the driver http://www.ralinktech.com/en/04_support/support.php?sn=501 but when i go make install i give a error " cannot stat 'rt5370sta.ko': no such file or directory", please someone try to help me here
[04:22] <escott> curiousx, those scripts are actually sh scripts with #!/bin/sh -e you can remove the -e to ignore the subprocess error
[04:22] <leah> Question:  Is there a step by step for putting ubuntu's installtion cd on a partician so that you don't need a cd?
[04:22] <aBound> the-master, I feel you I learned the same way.
[04:22] <harsh343> escott, I have the git repository details and  i have to download Gitt which is a GUI for managing GIT repositories.
 I have the ssh and password, setup the Git infrastructure required to manage my Dashboard code.
[04:23] <curiousx> escott: i didnt understand at all but i'll show you something just a second
[04:23] <aBound> A bunch of time has to be spent on learning various programs and such.
[04:24] <escott> harsh343, never heard of gitt, thats a rather confusing name choice. it doesn't appear to be in apt so you would have to compile it yourself
[04:25] <the-master> aBound: my brother turned me on to ubuntu, said it was smaller and faster than XP, and I agree, but I've never had to fight so hard with an OS to get it working the way I need it to.  The first day was spent just trying to get my wireless installed, just to find out everything I needed was already on the install
[04:25] <clemont12> is ubuntu the ok
[04:25] <fabiof> so this rt5370sta.ko is loaded from kernel? or is simply a file i can download and place in that folder of kernel and it installs with no problem?
[04:25] <curiousx> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/786503/
[04:25] <pangolin> coolstar-pc: are you here?
[04:26] <aBound> the-master, I know what you mean but I got a preconfigured laptop even so. I still gotta find out how to get my wireless printer working with it and configure it to my likings. Yet, the kernel can only support so many drivers seeing as the drivers are reverse engineered.
[04:26] <escott> the-master, depends a lot on the hardware you have. it pays to check that the hardware is well supported before purchasing (you would be surprised how poorly windows will do on many laptops until you go to the manufacturers website to download drivers)
[04:26] <nesoi> so, no one knows about japanese language input, or there just isn't anything better than the default?
[04:26] <clemont12> is ubuntu taking over windows
[04:26] <Chief_G> is there any way to play netflix under the latest ubuntu? or 11.04 for that matter thanks
[04:26] <curiousx> and http://paste.ubuntu.com/786504/
[04:27] <the-master> escott:  Purchasing is for people with money, however...lol
[04:27] <the-master> my desktop was given to me...
[04:27] <fabiof> cmon someone can help me installing this thing please
[04:27]  * coolstar-pc is trying to speak
[04:27] <pangolin> there we go
[04:28] <curiousx> oh! maybe i know the solution give me a second escott...
[04:28] <escott> curiousx, so when you install a package apt installs a set of scripts (commands) that are supposed to be run when you uninstall the package. check the /var/lib/dpkg/info folder for a file with that package name, and change the #!/bin/sh -e at the start to not have the -e
[04:28] <aBound> the-master, I'd tell you what Ubuntu just feels better for me and the tools just seem better overall I don't have to fight to find compilers and all that other junk.
[04:28]  * coolstar-ipod is trying to speak from his iPod
[04:28] <aBound> It's integrated already.
[04:29] <escott> Chief_G, no
[04:29] <Chief_G> escott: thx
[04:29] <the-master> fabiof: have you tried unpacking the .ko file at all?
[04:29] <Chief_G> i figured that much
[04:29] <curiousx> ok, i'll try it thx
[04:30] <fabiof> the-master: im trying to make install of the drivers im new to this can i unpack it somehow that i dont know?
[04:30] <the-master> fabiof:  Right click on it and choose "extract here"
[04:31] <fabiof> i did that
[04:31] <escott> curiousx, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/251 gives a bit of a walk-through
[04:31] <fabiof> then sudo su, make clean, make install
[04:31] <mfroes> hi guys.. i have a ext4 partition that i am trying to make everyone from the group 1001 to be able to mount and write to device. here is my fstab http://pastebin.com/MaBJuR5q
[04:32] <the-master> fabiof: what codes are you using for install?
[04:32] <fabiof> and here in when the error comes, it goves error while trying to install the rt5370 from some kernel folder
[04:32] <curiousx> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/786509/
[04:32] <curiousx> thx escott
[04:32] <aBound> lalagirl, Wake up. :P
[04:32] <escott> mfroes, /media/storage. its gid, but you could also use a setgid bit on the folder might be easier
[04:32] <fabiof> says missing the rt5370sta.ko
[04:32] <himmelkaiser> can someone help with a problem installing ANYTHING from ubuntu software center no matter what i try to install it says first to check internet connection even though its fine then it says that the stuff is untrusted
[04:32] <Guest58128> jackd 2 will not connect the error is :Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
[04:32] <fabiof> im making -  sudo su, make clean, make install
[04:33] <mfroes> escott, when i put gid=1001 ...   Unrecognized mount option "gid=1001"
[04:33] <escott> curiousx, and the error was in the postrm so gksudo gedit libgtk2.0-cil.postrm
[04:33] <mfroes> escott, on the manual pages it is supposed to be grpid on ext4
[04:34] <himmelkaiser> can someone help with a problem installing ANYTHING from ubuntu software center no matter what i try to install it says first to check internet connection even though its fine then it says that the stuff is untrusted
[04:34] <escott> mfroes, i dont see why you would want to use a mount option here, just use regular permissions and the setgid bit
[04:34] <the-master> fabiof: try "sudo apt-get install rt5370sta"
[04:34] <escott> mfroes, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setuid see the portion concerning setuid and setgid on directories
[04:34] <Chief_G> how can i have different wallpapers on two different monitors, i tried wallpapoz but it didn't work on the latest ubuntu version
[04:34] <fabiof> i have no internet on the computer i whant to install this
[04:35] <curiousx> ok
[04:35] <mfroes> escott, want group storage to mount / umount to be able to do maintenance on /media/storage
[04:35] <the-master> himmelkaiser: have you opened your universe and multiverse?
[04:35] <fabiof> the-master: can i download it from this computer and install on the other?
[04:35] <himmelkaiser> do what?
[04:35] <curiousx> i use nano instead of gedit =P
[04:35] <curiousx> xD
[04:35] <himmelkaiser> how do i open universe and multiverse
[04:35] <the-master> fabiof: if it is already on the computer, get-apt install won't need an internet connection
[04:35] <fabiof> ok ill try
[04:36] <curiousx> oh! i see the "-e" =)
[04:36] <curiousx> in the second line escott =) so i'll remove it
[04:37] <curiousx> hey! escott, you know to much dude
[04:37] <the-master> himmelkaiser: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[04:37] <himmelkaiser> thnx
[04:37] <the-master> himmelkaiser: np.. woah... how'd I know that...
[04:37] <fabiof> the-master: it saus unable to locate rt5370sta
[04:37] <fabiof> the-master: it saus unable to locate rt5370sta
[04:38] <aBound> Anybody know where the trash folder is in gnome-shell?
[04:38] <geoffmcc> fabiof: there is no package for it. while sudo did you make, make install and then modprobe?
[04:38] <the-master> fabiof: have you tried looking under "additional drivers"
[04:38] <escott> curiousx, i actually don't. had to google for that one. my apt knowledge is fairly weak
[04:38] <fabiof> yes not listed there
[04:39] <geoffmcc> fabiof: im also seeing its a good idea to have build-essential too
[04:39] <waterDrop> am i miss somthing
[04:39] <waterDrop> something usefull
[04:39] <escott> aBound, like on the file-system or do you want an icon for it?
[04:39] <mfroes> ubuntu server stopped sending signals to the monitor after the install restart ... can only access via ssh
[04:39] <waterDrop> what is SSH
[04:40] <curiousx> escott: give a second please
[04:40] <fabiof> the-master: http://www.ralinktech.com/en/04_support/support.php?sn=501 i downloaded the driver here
[04:40] <fabiof> then tryed to install
[04:40] <aBound> escott, Yes I'd like an icon for it.
[04:40] <escott> aBound, check extensions.gnome.org there is one there
[04:40] <aBound> Can't seem to find it on gnome-shell but on unity it's no problem.
[04:40] <escott> aBound, or just open nautilus
[04:41] <waterDrop> im searching for java script code, could anyone recommending me some links? :)
[04:41] <geoffmcc> fabiof: using sudo did you make, make install and then modprobe?
[04:41] <curiousx> escott: look when i remove "set -e" give this ouput: http://paste.ubuntu.com/786515/
[04:41] <aBound> escott, I see it in my home folder thanks.
[04:41] <fabiof> geoffmc : yes but the make install get a error
[04:41] <Guest58128> jackd 2 will not connect the error is :Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
[04:42] <geoffmcc> fabiof: do you have build-essential package installed?
[04:42] <mfroes> mymonitor does 800x600 and 1024x 768 .. but it still shows cannot show use native 1024x768
[04:42] <fabiof> geoffmc : when it tryes to install the rt5370sta.ko from the lib/modules/kernel/drivers/net etc...
[04:42] <vouth> Hi again :-P I was trying to reconfigure X (from a virtual console, after running 'sudo service gdm stop'), and after I rebooted I couldn't get a graphical interface any more, but am stuck using the virtual consoles. Switching to where the GUI usually is (bound to the F7 key) shows me the tail end of the boot sequence output. Helllllp, I've been cursed!! :-S
[04:42] <fabiof> dont think so this is a 11.10 fresh install
[04:43] <escott> curiousx, you may just have to hand edit that postrm script to remove these problematic lines, or just put an "exit 0" at the end of the script to make sure it exits with success
[04:43] <fabiof> how i install that?
[04:43] <curiousx> escott: and, when i removed just the "-e" give me this ouput: http://paste.ubuntu.com/786516/
[04:43] <geoffmcc> fabiof: sudo apt-get install build-essential and then sudo make, sudo make install, sudo modprobe rt5370sta
[04:44] <curiousx> mmm... i'll try the easy way just putting a "exit 0" =P xD
[04:44] <fabiof> geoffmcc: says unable to locate build-essential
[04:45] <black_> how would i find a file based off its file permissions?
[04:45] <escott> black_, find can do that
[04:45] <black_> how tho?
[04:45] <black_> ive never had to do this.
[04:45] <ickefes> ickefes
[04:45] <black_> i can find and change, but i just want to find +x files. files that i can exec.
[04:46] <ickefes> hi guys. do you know why this shows up when i try to regsrv32 wineasio.dll?
[04:46] <ickefes> err:module:load_builtin_dll failed to load .so lib for builtin L"wineasio.dll": libjack.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:46] <ickefes> Failed to load DLL wineasio.dll
[04:46] <ickefes> i use 10.04 x64
[04:47] <curiousx> escott: job done =P
[04:47] <fabiof> geoffmcc: says unable to locate build-essential
[04:47] <escott> black_, find . -perm -u+x
[04:47] <curiousx> oh! my gosh that was awesome xD
[04:47] <the-master> fabiof: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Tenda_W311M
[04:48] <geoffmcc> fabiof: hmm. its a package. lemme see where exactly it is
[04:48] <curiousx> i am latino xD thx for that escott =)
[04:48] <curiousx> i mean from Argentina =P
[04:48] <hechu> Hello, I am ssh login to my desktop computer, gona to capture the screen of it. it is a framebuffer screen without X running, anybody who knows how to capture the screen? thanks.
[04:48] <escott> curiousx, glad it finally worked. im surprised its such a pain
[04:48] <black_> can i use numbers instead of flags?
[04:48] <escott> black_, yes
[04:49] <ickefes> i have downloaded several wineasio versions but i get this erro when using any of them.
[04:49] <escott> hechu, what are you trying to capture from the screen?
[04:49] <curiousx> yep
[04:49] <black_> rwxr-xr-x what numbers are these?
[04:49] <black_> im looking at a guide now..
[04:49] <curiousx> escott:
[04:49] <escott> black_, 755
[04:49] <black_> 755?
[04:50] <curiousx> i have other terrible trouble =P
[04:50] <black_> -type f to check if its file?
[04:50] <hechu> escott, i think it's a frame buffer screen. like SVGA program. actually it is a software application compiled with QT framebuffer mode.
[04:50] <curiousx> is about "apt-get update"
[04:51] <curiousx> in #backtrack-es and #backtrack-linux anyone can help me =(
[04:51] <escott> hechu, im just not clear what you are trying to capture. there is probably a *better* way to to this than what you are describing, but without knowing what you are trying to do
[04:52] <escott> black_, yeah you probably will want that too
[04:52] <black_> i added it
[04:52] <black_> im making a monitor.sh to text me when a service crashed lol
[04:53] <aBound> black_, Awesome.
[04:53] <curiousx> but anywey, i fucked up becouse i remove a bunch of stuff
[04:53] <black_> it uses sendemail tho
[04:53] <black_> :/
[04:53] <curiousx> i remove gpg key and other things =P
[04:54] <escott> curiousx, add it back with apt-key
[04:54] <hechu> escott, I am trying to capture the console screen of my desktop computer. I tried run "cat /dev/fb0 > temp.raw", it seems works, now I am trying to find a software to open the file. any suggestion? thanks.
[04:54] <black_> im going to post it later :P
[04:54] <curiousx> escott: oh! let me see
[04:55] <curiousx> escott: give a second i'll try it but first i want to paste you an ouput
[04:55] <black_> its done.
[04:55] <black_> :)
[04:55] <fabiof> the error i have when i do make install is in " install -m 644 -c rt5370sta.ko /lib/modules/3.0.0-12-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/        and in the next line it says : install: cannot stat rt5370sta.ko no such file or directory
[04:55] <black_> yay it all works perfect :)
[04:55] <bullgard4> 'man streamripper': "streamripper includes a relay server for listening to the station while you are recording." How can I make Ubuntu 11.10 GNOME Shell 3.2.1 to produce an audible sound of the stream that I am recording at the same time?
[04:56] <the-master> fabiof: did you change the directories like it says in the guide?
[04:56] <escott> hechu, i would be surprised if you can make any sense of that output. what are you actually trying to do?
[04:57] <fabiof> the-master: i have it in home/downloads i will move it to see if changes anything
[04:57] <Belial`> seem to be having trouble removing a ppa from the software center. when i click "remove" and enter my password, it does nothing.
[04:57] <the-master> fabiof: the whole unpack needs to be moved to the home folder, that may be why you are having problems
[04:57] <Belial`> the repo still remains in the list, and checked.
[04:58] <Belial`> anyone else having this problem?
[04:58] <hechu> escott, sorry my bad English. now I tied gimp, open with an raw file format, and manually adjust the width,height ad RGBA mode something, it seems works.
[04:58] <escott> !ppa-purge | Belial`
[04:59] <Belial`> thank you, escott
[04:59] <fabiof> the-master: i changed the file but the same error apears
[04:59] <the-master> did you move the whole directory over to the home folder?
[05:00] <curiousx> this update take too long =(
[05:01] <the-master> fabiof: did you move the whole directory over to the home folder?
[05:01] <fabiof> yep
[05:01] <fabiof> is in home/sta
[05:03] <black_> in terminal how do i inject into crontab list?
[05:04] <zakk> crontab -e
[05:04] <the-master> fabiof: try this http://harkko.lattu.biz/notes/rt5370_ubuntu.html
[05:04] <black_> im trying to put it into a script
[05:04] <black_> but i cant remember what remove duplicates
[05:04] <aBound> Looks like it's going to be a long-journey to grasp Linux.
[05:05] <escott> black, drop a file in /etc/cron.(hourly,daily,weekly,etc)
[05:06] <hmmm> Hello  &  Merry Christmas... I was using another distro. Debian dvd. and did a backup with back in time to my windows d  drive.  But ended up deleting the backup files while in debian. Then when i tried to empty the trash the media folder would not delete.  So I reformatted my linux partitions and even changed there positions. Now while using ubuntu i deleted a couple of files from my D drive. And was surprised to see the media folder reappear and still unable t
[05:06] <hmmm> o empty from trash  Sorry for the long explanation.
[05:06] <curiousx> escott: this is the "apt-get update" ouput =(
[05:06] <curiousx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/786532/
[05:06] <curiousx> and teke too long
[05:06] <curiousx> take*
[05:07] <the-master> well, I seem to have abandoned my quest to install python-glade2 has been abandoned for today... gots to get to sleep kids, maybe I'll be back on tomorrow to learn some more
[05:07] <the-master> now how do I leave this chat?
[05:08] <curiousx> i did apt-key update nad net-update
[05:08] <curiousx> and*
[05:08] <escott> curiousx, you'll have to apt-key add all the missing keys
[05:09] <escott> curiousx, you'll have to find the bt keyserver wherever that is
[05:09] <curiousx> oh! and i'll have to add by key id, right?
[05:09] <escott> hmmm, huh? so you have files on a windows (presumably ntfs) partition that you cannot delete in windows?
[05:09] <escott> curiousx, yes
[05:10] <subb1> hello..
[05:10] <curiousx> for particular software ppa goes a particular key id =)
[05:10] <subb1> guys. can you suggest a good mail client on ubuntu other than mozilla and evolution?
[05:10] <hmmm> no i deleted the files from a windows partition while using ubuntu and the media folder from my back reappeared
[05:10] <zakk> subb1: mutt
[05:10] <zakk> Fetching
[05:10] <zakk> [29%] 2409B/s 17h 13min 28s
[05:10] <curiousx> deamn i fucked up dude xD thanks you too much escott
[05:10] <zakk> wtf
[05:11] <escott> !language | curiousx
[05:11] <curiousx> ups sorry
[05:11] <hmmm> from my previose back up reappaered
[05:11] <subb1> zakk a gui one preferably
[05:11] <curiousx> i like the american lenguage xD
[05:11] <zakk> subb1: there is nothing else good that I'm aware of
[05:12] <subb1> zakk yea. I ran into few minor bugs on the 2 of the previous ones
[05:13] <curiousx> so well i try to find out this key thank you too much escott and all the comunity very nice new year
[05:14] <curiousx> when i solve a couple a trobles i'll be back trying to help on this chat =) cya
[05:18] <Arcademan> guys is gnome 3.2 out I mean released out as a upgraded package on Ubuntu?
[05:19] <escott> Arcademan, 11.10 has 3.2.1
[05:20] <Malsasa> Hello, Ubuntu.
[05:20] <Malsasa> I wanna ask about C programming (i am beginner)
[05:20] <Malsasa> May somebody help me?
[05:22] <jag09> So, a question I guess. I'm having a difficult time installing Ubuntu. Some background: I received a new Gateway laptop with Windows 7 on it, I've never used any OS other than windows before, and i wanted to give Ubuntu a try. I set up a USB drive as per the Ubuntu website, but that didn't seem to run well and I didn't want to completely eliminate Windows until I knew what I was getting...
[05:23] <escott> jag09, did the liveusb boot?
[05:23] <jag09> into.  So I downloaded the windows installer "Wubi".  After several attempts, the installation keeps stalling in the same "place" at about 1 hour 56 min.  How can I get the installation to finish?
[05:23] <escott> jag09, don't use wubi
[05:24] <jag09> Not on startup.  When I would first insert it, the normal Windows explorer dialog box would come up and ask if I wanted to explore the contents
[05:24] <retrorex> Hi
[05:25] <almoxarife> jag09: where in the install process?
[05:26] <kcm1700> Please, don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). Malsasa
[05:27] <airtonix> jag09: instead of using wubi, download virtualbox for windows and create a virtual machine, then install ubuntu in the virtual machine from the .iso you downloaded. wubi is just bad news for both ubuntu and windows.
[05:27] <escott> jag09, so there are two things to deal with (1) removing wubi fixing any thing it has messed up (2) getting you a bootable usb so you can try it
[05:27] <escott> jag09, do you know if wubi has overwritten the mbr yet?
[05:27] <Rallias> is there any guiless software I can use to stream video from my server to my ps3?
[05:27] <jag09> The wubi client says "Downloading ubunto 11.10-wubi-amd64.tar.xz"  I believe it stops at the same place every time.
[05:28] <almoxarife> escott: wubi does not 'mess' windows
[05:29] <jag09> Well, I made a bootable USB, I'm just not sure how to go about installing when windows is already there
[05:29] <bullgard4> 'man streamripper': "streamripper includes a relay server for listening to the station while you are recording." How can I make Ubuntu 11.10 GNOME Shell 3.2.1 to produce an audible sound of the stream that I am recording at the same time?
[05:29] <h00k> !dualboot | jag09
[05:29] <Rallias> escott correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought wubi didn't touch the MBR but instead booted from the windows bootloader...
[05:30] <almoxarife> jag09: the suggestion about using 'virtualbox' is a good option, slower than wubi unless your cpu can run vt
[05:31] <escott> Rallias, i don't use it so i don't know. does it chainload the other way
[05:31] <almoxarife> Rallias: exactly
[05:31] <almoxarife> escott: you don't use it, but you do have an opinion!
[05:32] <escott> almoxarife, yes. it seems stupid :)
[05:32] <Rallias> almoxarife ahh splended so my grandma is getting the knack for identifying what is happening behind the scenes.
[05:32] <Rallias> 3 more years and she'll be a jolly good IT manager
[05:32] <jag09> Alrighty.  I'll forget about wubi and look at the Virtualbox option and the dual boot option.  Thanks for the help :)
[05:33] <escott> almoxarife, although that opinion was mostly based on the belief that it replaced the windows mbr. if it doesnt its not as bad as what i thought
[05:33] <aBound> brb
[05:33] <urlin2u> a grub update in the wubi will opor did overwrite the mbr, not sure if it's fixed
[05:34] <urlin2u> will/or*
[05:36] <almoxarife> escott: my reference is based on your offering opinion on a product ubuntu tries to get out to the public for the sake of creating interest in ubuntu, I used wubi, it works, it's a nice beginner for someone who is ( as I was) too afraid to toss windows!
[05:38] <urlin2u> almoxarife, here is what the designser has to say about wubi, I have checked it out semms harmless if you have some skills, and a windows recovery disc to reload its bootloader if needed. http://howsoftwareisbuilt.com/2009/03/12/interview-with-agostino-russo-wubi-ubuntu/
[05:38] <Malsasa> I am using Ubuntu One CLient on my Ubuntu 11.10. I have an account in Ubuntu One. But i could not login via Ubuntu One Client. When I enter my account information, the program stunned (loading) and ended with login screen of Ubutu One CLient again. I am using proxy to connect to internet.
[05:42] <escott> almoxarife, urlin2u's comments are why i discourage it. it seems like a lot of other options are better (ie virtualbox/persistent usb/a real install). it just seems like an idea that improved technology has reduced the need for and there are some serious risks
[05:43] <bullgard4> 'man streamripper': "streamripper includes a relay server for listening to the station while you are recording." How can I make Ubuntu 11.10 GNOME Shell 3.2.1 to produce an audible sound of the stream that I am recording at the same time?
[05:43] <almoxarife> escott: take it up with the ubuntu-big-cheezes
[05:44] <basil60> hi
[05:45] <sdfsdfsd> hi
[05:45] <basil60> I was wondering if anyone could help me restore apache defaults on my machine?
[05:45] <sdfsdfsd> sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2
[05:46] <sdfsdfsd> sudo apt-get install apache2
[05:46] <basil60> and then apt-get install ?
[05:46] <sdfsdfsd> yes
[05:46] <basil60> if i have stuff in my www directory, will that remain?
[05:47] <atruno> basil yes you must clean it up
[05:47] <sdfsdfsd> yes, that should remain, may want to back up just in case
[05:47] <basil60> it's OK...i still want it..I'd just have moved it if it were to be deleted
[05:47] <sdfsdfsd> or delete rm -R /var/www
[05:47] <sdfsdfsd> as root if you want to delete
[05:48] <basil60> any gotchas with doing this?
[05:48] <atruno> why not be safe and move it before you purge ?
[05:48] <sdfsdfsd> no not really you'll just have to start from scratch again
[05:48] <sdfsdfsd> if you remove www directory
[05:48] <sdfsdfsd> you will have to recreate
[05:49] <sdfsdfsd> mkdir /var/www
[05:49] <basil60> does it matter if it's a LAMP installation?
[05:49] <sdfsdfsd> no it shouldnt
[05:49] <sdfsdfsd> mysql and php should still be installed
[05:49] <sdfsdfsd> it may remove mod-php5 but you  can reinstall
[05:50] <sdfsdfsd> with apache
[05:50] <basil60> can mod_proxy easily be removed from an apache installation - as a less drastic option?
[05:50] <aBound> I know that Perl and Python are installed by default. :P
[05:50] <upgrayeddd> Does anyone know whether Ubuntu 11.10 plays DVDs right out of the box?
[05:50] <upgrayeddd> I'm frustrated since I'm on 10.04 and it never has
[05:50] <sdfsdfsd> just delete it our of /etc/apache2 mods-enabled or mods-available
[05:50] <upgrayeddd> but I remember I got karmic to play them somehow once
[05:51] <sdfsdfsd> or both then /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[05:51] <upgrayeddd> with 10.04 I often have to install various pieces of packages, and scripts
[05:51] <aBound> upgrayeddd, Installing VLC as your default player may or may not play dvd's automatically.
[05:51] <upgrayeddd> yet to no avail
[05:51] <erika24usa> ubuntu 11.10 how do i get to java setting
[05:51] <upgrayeddd> aBound: no dice :(
[05:51] <aBound> upgrayeddd, Is it set as your default media player?
[05:51] <upgrayeddd> yep
[05:51] <erika24usa> in yahoo spades i cant  talk in lobby
[05:52] <upgrayeddd> just doesn't recognize them
[05:52] <upgrayeddd> spins a lot, screams...and dad
[05:52] <upgrayeddd> *dead
[05:52] <erika24usa> but when i in a game i try type but it wont let me type
[05:52] <upgrayeddd> I have a 11.10 computer downstairs I'll try tomorrow to see if it'll play with
[05:53] <erika24usa> is 11.10 the latest ubuntu
[05:53] <escott> upgrayeddd, no version has ever played dvd's "out of the box" for legal reasons. you have to manually run the libdvdcss install script
[05:53] <erika24usa> imusing openjdk
[05:53] <erika24usa> icetea plugin
[05:54] <upgrayeddd> escott: I understand, but for some reason, libdvdcss never works for me :(
[05:54] <black_> there..done ;)
[05:54] <aBound> erika24usa, Use 11.10 is the latest and bleeding edge release. :P
[05:55] <erika24usa> except far openjdk
[05:55] <sdfsdfsd> to play dvds with vlc u can download & install .debs from here http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/
[05:55] <erika24usa> java
[05:55] <upgrayeddd> btw escott isn't it libdvdcss2 ?
[05:55] <erika24usa> its works
[05:55] <erika24usa> just got a glitch
[05:55] <erika24usa> bug
[05:56] <sdfsdfsd> libdvdcss2 .debs can be downloaded from vlc site http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/
[05:56] <escott> upgrayeddd, sure
[05:56] <black_> */* for crontab is every minute?
[05:56] <black_> or */[0-9] is
[05:57] <erika24usa> on yahoo spades when i join game i cant type
[05:57] <escott> upgrayeddd, the script that has to be manually run is /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[05:57] <almoxarife> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:57] <aBound> upgrayeddd, Hmm you tried editing  defaults.list manually within /usr/share/applications folder?
[05:57] <bullgard4> erika24usa: Yes, if you mean an official release. But there is a newer  inofficial (experimental) release.
[05:57] <zakk> when is the next LTS release?
[05:57] <escott> black_, better to sleep in a loop than to make cron wakeup everyminute to run a script
[05:57] <aBound> zakk, Somewhere in April 2012.
[05:58] <zakk> aBound: cool
[05:58] <erika24usa> bullgard4 11.10 is great
[05:58] <black_> right now i have */5 which should be every minute ending in 5
[05:58] <erika24usa> its just the java issue
[05:58] <upgrayeddd> aBound: no, but I noticed I already have libdvdcss and libdvdcss2 latest versions
[05:59] <erika24usa> sun java 6 had got old an was being knocked out of yahoo spades
[06:00] <black_> welp time for bed
[06:00] <black_> had to do a lil coding before i could sleep lol.
[06:00] <bullgard4> erika24usa: I like the graphics in Ubuntu 11.10 GNOME Shell 3.2.1. But this release has not yet implemented all widgets which I was used to. So for productive purposes I am keeping Ubuntu 10.04.3 on anther computer.
[06:01] <bullgard4> s/anther/another/
[06:01] <escott> bullgard4, have you looked at extensions.gnome.org recently. its progressing incredibly rapidly
[06:02] <bullgard4> escott: No. Not yet. I am reporting bugs and will wait for Ubuntu 12.04 Beta.
[06:02] <upgrayeddd> same bullgard4
[06:02] <aBound> upgrayeddd, You can always give this a go: http://wiki.videolan.org/How_to_make_VLC_the_default_player#Changing_the_default_application_for_videos_manually.28the_hard_way.29:
[06:02] <doom> i tried to use ubuntu 11.10 with the "old" gnome and it was just a bad version of it.. i hope that the next lts is not with this new gnome, or at least i can chose
[06:02] <edbian> upgrayeddd, spelled with 2 d's for a double dose of his pimpin'
[06:02] <aBound> doom, Unity will be used throughout most of the Ubuntu releases. Unless, gnome-shell is installed.
[06:03] <doom> oh.. erm
[06:03] <upgrayeddd> !language | edbian
[06:03] <edbian> hahaha
[06:03] <aBound> doom, Gnome 2 is old and will eventually stop development in order to move gnome-shell forward.
[06:04] <upgrayeddd> the problem isn't about the default player aBound ... it's that no dvds will play at all for some reason
[06:04] <upgrayeddd> even if I try manually Open Disc in vlc
[06:04] <doom> yes... i guess it has to evolve
[06:04] <aBound> upgrayeddd, Could be missing dependencies.
[06:04] <bullgard4> doom: Pleas use again Ubuntu 11.10 and install the package »gnome-shell« and login anew.
[06:05] <upgrayeddd> this is after installing latest libdvdcss libdvdcss2 the script in the /usr/share/... folder
[06:05] <doom> i will try that on my other computer ill see how it works
[06:05] <aBound> doom, I don't mind gnome-shell except minus the fact it doesn't carry a minimize/maximize button.
[06:05] <aBound> doom, By the way gnome-shell can't use compiz.
[06:05] <upgrayeddd> Do I have to maybe restart?
[06:06] <escott> aBound, those can be enabled with gnome-tweak
[06:06] <aBound> escott, Hmm never knew that thanks for the heads up.
[06:06] <doom> hmm
[06:06] <zakk> is ntfs mounting still restricted to root?
[06:07] <doom> im on some older computers right now anyways (pentium4)
[06:07] <zakk> in lucid
[06:07] <doom> i like some simple graphics or console stuff
[06:07] <escott> aBound, hard to find its on the wrong tab. under shell "arrangement of buttons on the titlebar" should be under windows logically
[06:07] <aBound> escott, From the pictures it doesn't seem like gnome tweak can use compiz.
[06:07] <escott> aBound, it uses mutter not compiz
[06:08] <aBound> escott, I kinda figured it was different.
[06:09] <Guest55239> #xubuntu
[06:09] <Guest55239> Hi everyone, i need help installing ubuntu 11.10 on my laptop, my laptop is a toshiba satellite L745D, when im trying to instal ubuntu it doesnt work, ive tryed with the windows installer thing and it didnt work, then ive made a usb boot stick, so when the ubuntu menu popup wich it says if i want to just try it or instal it, no matter what choice i take after the choice made my screen turn to black and there is nothing hapenning
[06:10] <aBound> escott, Do you know of the screensaver that uses like math symbols or something like that?
[06:10] <Chowder> Guest55239: error messages?
[06:10] <Guest55239> Hi everyone, i need help installing ubuntu 11.10 on my laptop, my laptop is a toshiba satellite L745D, when im trying to instal ubuntu it doesnt work, ive tryed with the windows installer thing and it didnt work, then ive made a usb boot stick, so when the ubuntu menu popup wich it says if i want to just try it or instal it, no matter what choice i take after the choice made my screen turn to black and there is nothing hapenning
[06:10] <escott> aBound, no. not even sure how to set a screensaver anymore
[06:10] <Guest55239> Chowder: no the screen is just black
[06:11] <Chowder> Guest55239: but your laptop at least boots, right?
[06:11] <DrPenguin> Guest55239: Use the Alternative Installer
[06:12] <aBound> Found it called: "Electric Sheep", uses all kinds of crazy spirals.
[06:12] <Guest55239> Chowder: yes it is, i am able to get into the first ubuntu menu, which you have the choice to only try it or instal it, then when i choose the screen just go black and nothing appen
[06:12] <Guest55239> DrPenguin: who can i do that, i am new to ubuntu
[06:12] <DrPenguin> Guest55239: you need to download the alternative iso
[06:13] <Chowder> Guest55239, I would take DrPenguin's advice. You can download the alternate install CD from the Ubuntu site.
[06:13] <Guest55239> okay thanks you very much all i will give it a try :)
[06:13] <DrPenguin> Guest55239: I have a running theory that for some reason, X doesnt come up right on newer laptops. Ive seen it happen on a few HPs
[06:13] <DrPenguin> The alternative installer is an ncurses based one.. shouldnt be too had to navigate
[06:14] <Guest55239> DrPenguin: thanks you i apreciate your help have a nice day :)
[06:14] <doom> out of topic, this is the first time i log into irc in 8 years or so
[06:15] <DrPenguin> Guest55239: no problem man, ill be here if you run into issues
[06:15] <JViz> when you download the kernel sources with ubuntu software center, where does it put it?
[06:15] <doom> any idea when a new lts comes out?
[06:15] <DrPenguin> JViz: either in /usr/src or some cache in /var/apt
[06:15] <escott> !oneiric | doom
[06:15] <DrPenguin> doom: 12.04 is the next LTS.. should be in.. what April?
[06:16] <escott> !pangolin
[06:16] <JViz> DrPenguin: I don't have /var/apt directory, and /usr/src doesn't have any .c files in it
[06:16] <aBound> escott, Are you having any trouble setting keyboard shortcuts?
[06:16] <escott> doom, sorry see the pangolin one
[06:16] <DrPenguin> JViz: it may be /var/cache/apt then
[06:16] <doom> awesome thanks :))
[06:16] <escott> aBound, in gnome3 no
[06:16] <escott> aBound, what shortcut are you trying to set
[06:17] <aBound> escott, Trying to set my terminal shortcut to use: ctrl-z.
[06:17] <aBound> Doesn't work which is odd.
[06:17] <DrPenguin> JViz: that, or I know if you do apt-get source, I think it downloads it to your current directory, or you could just install linux-source, thats the ubuntu kernel source tarball
[06:17] <aBound> I'm on Unity right now.
[06:17] <escott> aBound, i do remember the gui was confusing. didnt see that you could click on things that you could click on. ctrl-z would be a bad choice. doubt know if it would be supported
[06:17] <bullgard4> 'man streamripper': "streamripper includes a relay server for listening to the station while you are recording." How can I make Ubuntu 11.10 GNOME Shell 3.2.1 to produce an audible sound of the stream that I am recording at the same time?
[06:17] <josh9> i see japasese in all my menu. what package do i need to install to see my meunu in english?
[06:18] <aBound> escott, Worked just fine on 10.04 LTS. But the thing is though I can't set any keyboard shortcuts be it my terminal or not I don't know if it's a bug or blah.
[06:18] <JViz> DrPenguin: apt-get install linux-source appears to be installing it
[06:18] <DrPenguin> JViz: yeah, but its just a tarball
[06:19] <DrPenguin> JViz: its not "installing" a kernel
[06:19] <JViz> DrPenguin: ah, ok
[06:19] <aBound> Oh well.
[06:19] <JViz> will it untar it to /usr/src/?
[06:19] <DrPenguin> JViz: look in your curent directory, the tarball should be there.. I think..
[06:20] <DrPenguin> or it could be in usr src.. sorry.. I did this almost a month ago and I forget
[06:20] <escott> aBound, so how do you suspend an application in terminal if ctrl-z is bound?
[06:21] <aBound> escott, That must be for gnome-shell as I'm on Unity and ctrl-z does nothing.
[06:21] <aBound> escott, Doesn't matter I can't set it to any keys on the keyboard it's as if it's locked in permanently.
[06:21] <JViz> DrPenguin: thank you
[06:22] <JViz> DrPenguin: i got it
[06:22] <aBound> ctrl-alt-t launches the terminal.
[06:24] <escott> aBound, if this is the same as the gnome control-center shortcuts (not sure what unity uses) then you can double click on the text that says "Disabled" or whatever the key is and then enter the shortcut. but yes ctrl-Z is a weird choice http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control-Z
[06:24] <aBound> escott, I like ctrl-z cause it's close to the keyboard but already tried what you said before you said it.
[06:24] <aBound> Nothing seems to work.
[06:24] <aBound> :P
[06:25] <aBound> escott, Don't worry about it doesn't seem like it can be edited.
[06:25] <aBound> escott, HA! Now it works.
[06:25] <aBound> lol
[06:25] <anomaliz> is there a php channel?
[06:26] <escott> aBound, very unintuitive gui for that
[06:26] <escott> !alis | anomaliz
[06:26] <aBound> escott, Seems like a bug or something I have to tripe-click or quad-click for the shortcut to disable.
[06:27] <escott> aBound, or maybe its like a longer click or something, but i agree its very weird
[06:27] <aBound> escott, Not my terminal won't launch haha.
[06:27] <aBound> Now**
[06:27] <aBound> Ahh, man what a day with Ubuntu.
[06:27] <aBound> brb I may have to log out.
[06:29] <aBound> escott, Yeah it's more or less a bug my terminal won't launch now with either shortkey.
[06:29] <FunGoat> clear
[06:34] <aBound> Alright ya'll I'm off have a good one.
[06:34] <dinghu> haha
[06:37] <bikcmp> hi all, i'm using an hp mini 110, and all of a sudden, my trackpad buttons actually don't do anything anymore.
[06:37] <bikcmp> i'm praying this is software side.
[06:37] <bikcmp> i'm on here from my hp mini; i managed to connect using just my keyboard.
[06:37] <somsip> anomaliz: ##php from memory
[06:37] <bikcmp> is there a known setting that disables the touhpad click?
[06:38] <bikcmp> or, a way to check the mouse settings using the keyboard only?
[06:38] <DrPenguin> bikcmp: dmesg may tell you if its shut off
[06:38] <bikcmp> DrPenguin: my right button works fine
[06:39] <bikcmp> left doesn't do anything
[06:39] <DrPenguin> that sounds like hardware...
[06:39] <escott> bikcmp, you can look at xinput, but its probably faster to tab through the mouse settings gui to make sure its enabled
[06:39] <bikcmp> hrm
[06:39] <bikcmp> that's weird
[06:39] <bikcmp> and all of a sudden it came back
[06:39] <DrPenguin> rofl yeah thats hardware
[06:39] <DrPenguin> thats deff not software
[06:40] <bikcmp> so i'm essentially screwed?
[06:40] <bikcmp> #yay.
[06:40] <DrPenguin> you could rip it open and see whats wrong
[06:40] <MahaVishnu> bikcmp~ screwed out of the $10 for a mouse. then yeah. "screwed"
[06:40] <escott> bikcmp, is the touchpad working otherwise?
[06:40] <bikcmp> DrPenguin: the thing making me think it's not hw is the fact that double tapping my actual trackpad used to make it click.
[06:40] <bikcmp> it didn't work when my left button wouldn't work.
[06:40] <bikcmp> now it's working along with my left button.
[06:41] <bullgard4> 'man streamripper': "streamripper includes a relay server for listening to the station while you are recording." How can I make Ubuntu 11.10 GNOME Shell 3.2.1 to produce an audible sound of the stream that I am recording at the same time?
[06:41] <escott> bikcmp, like when the tap to click is not working can you still move the pointer
[06:41] <bikcmp> escott: yes.
[06:41] <bikcmp> to the last question.
[06:41] <DrPenguin> bikcmp: your computer is just dumb then
[06:41] <bikcmp> escott: yes.
[06:41] <bikcmp> i can, to both.
[06:41] <HermanDE> Is it possible to hide printers shared from a cups server?
[06:41] <bikcmp> just double tapping would do nothing.
[06:41] <bikcmp> which makes me think that it was just software.
[06:41] <DrPenguin> *bikcmp's pc* "I FORGOT HOW TO LEFT CLICK! OH WAIT I REMEMBER! I FORGOT AGAIN"
[06:41] <bikcmp> DrPenguin: ikr
[06:41] <bikcmp> DrPenguin: i'm saving up for another one.
[06:41] <DrPenguin> DERRRRRRR
[06:42] <bikcmp> i made the mistake of going with a netbook.
[06:42] <skegeek> Would like some help with an error that shows each time I boot. Here is a screenshot: http://f.imgtmp.com/Vgosu.png
[06:42] <DrPenguin> id rather use a tablet before a net book
[06:42] <bikcmp> ... when i could have got a computer 2 times as powerful for 20 bucks more.
[06:42] <bikcmp> DrPenguin: i have no normal desktop/laptop, too
[06:42] <bikcmp> lol
[06:42] <bikcmp> i usually outsource my stuff to my servers.
[06:42] <DrPenguin> skegeek: looks like X is having an issue probing your monitor.. is it getting the EDID?
[06:43] <escott> bikcmp, agreed, i would suspect that synaptic is suppressing what it thinks are palm presses or the like
[06:43] <skegeek> I'm not sure.
[06:43] <shadghost> Hi there, I was wondering if there was a way to only extract files that have not been extracted yet form my arcive
[06:44] <MahaVishnu> shadghost~ with your fingers
[06:44] <shadghost> I made a 40 gig .tar.gz and half way throu extracting it, my computer crashed
[06:44] <skegeek> The error starting happening after I added 1280x1024 resolution following a reboot (in which it reverted to 1024x768).
[06:44] <DrPenguin> skegeek: find out by looking at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:44] <DrPenguin> skegeek: hmm.. does your monitor support that mode with the driver your using?
[06:44] <bikcmp> ok
[06:45] <bikcmp> DrPenguin: i think i know what it is. :(
[06:45] <bikcmp> DrPenguin: i think my left button is getting stuck down.
[06:45] <bikcmp> and then, that disables the trackpad's double click.
[06:45] <DrPenguin> bikcmp: well you know what to do then right?
[06:45] <skegeek> It did for a few hours before Ubuntu froze up.
[06:45] <DrPenguin> quit jerkin it on your netbook
[06:45] <bikcmp> DrPenguin: but it's so fun
[06:45] <bikcmp> :/
[06:45] <escott> skegeek, do you have settings in ~/.config/monitors.xml that aren't appropriate for that monitor
[06:45] <MahaVishnu> LMAO
[06:45] <bikcmp> i swear, i'll cut down on it
[06:45] <bikcmp> but i can't stop
[06:46] <bikcmp> DrPenguin: in all seriousness though... i don't know much about hw repair. i'm a software guy.
[06:46] <bikcmp> i could see if my dad would be willing to do it, he's only like, a 20 minute drive away
[06:46] <bikcmp> haha
[06:46] <DrPenguin> bikcmp: see if its easy to open the thing up, if your lucky, its probably just something you spilled on it and some isophrophic alcohol, highest proof you can get, will fix it
[06:46] <DrPenguin> its non conductive so its great for cleaning sensitive equipment
[06:47] <bikcmp> DrPenguin: it's broken, actually
[06:47] <bikcmp> but just never did this before
[06:47] <bikcmp> it has nothing on it; i've never spilled anything on it
[06:47] <bikcmp> i baby it. :P
[06:47] <MahaVishnu> you know what else is non conductive
[06:47] <bikcmp> don't say it
[06:47] <MahaVishnu> lol
[06:47] <DrPenguin> Man jelly
[06:48] <MahaVishnu> no pretty sure thats conductive
[06:48] <bikcmp> DrPenguin: i've got proof it does actually conduct.
[06:48] <escott> bikcmp, you could try and verify that with xev
[06:48]  * bikcmp points to his burns.
[06:48] <skegeek> "Output VGA1 has no monitor section", "No DPMS capabilities specified" are two things found in xorg.0.log
[06:48] <DrPenguin> Oh God..
[06:48] <bikcmp> escott: xev?
[06:48] <bikcmp> DrPenguin: WANT TO SEE?
[06:48] <bikcmp> :P
[06:48] <DrPenguin> bikcmp: X Event Viewer, it records ALL X events and spits em into your terminal
[06:48] <DrPenguin> so mouse moves, key presses, etc etc
[06:48] <MahaVishnu> my ballzack is conductive.
[06:48] <DrPenguin> skegeek: well if your not using VGA1 thats fine.. many computers have more than 1 output
[06:49] <MahaVishnu> skegeek~ use xrandr -q to figure out ur outputs
[06:49] <bikcmp> figures
[06:49] <bikcmp> won't do it
[06:49] <bikcmp> haha
[06:49] <bikcmp> won't do it for some reason in xev.
[06:50] <DrPenguin> well if X isnt getting the event then you wont see it
[06:50] <escott> bikcmp, just repeatedly click the physical button and see if it fails to send a release event
[06:50] <shadghost> OMG my arcive stoped at 47 of 52 gigs
[06:50] <shadghost> arggg
[06:50] <skegeek> I'm using a 17" LCD which is identified as VGA1, so yes, VGA. It's an external monitor connected to a laptop.
[06:51] <escott> bikcmp, but that doesn't seem like a reasonable interpretation. you should notice a failed release
[06:51] <MahaVishnu> skegeek~ and what is your problem ?
[06:51] <DrPenguin> skegeek: thats not your monitor persay, thats your Video Output
[06:51] <bikcmp> escott: yeah, i've tried that
[06:51] <bikcmp> it doesn't work
[06:51] <bikcmp> like, it works but i mean it won't break. :P
[06:54] <escott> shadghost, what are you trying to archive?
[06:55] <shadghost> escott: It is a steam folder from one computer to a second, I am hopeing steam is smart enoufh to repare itself
[06:55] <shadghost> now
[06:55] <shadghost> sofar it is looking like it is
[06:55] <escott> shadghost, use rsync
[06:56] <shadghost> escott: The computer with the good steam files is quite a few miles away turned off now
[06:57] <shadghost> escott: And it looks like steam succesfully fixed it self!
[06:58] <skegeek> Sorry, system froze.
[06:58] <bullgard4> 'man streamripper': "streamripper includes a relay server for listening to the station while you are recording." How can I make Ubuntu 11.10 GNOME Shell 3.2.1 to produce an audible sound of the stream that I am recording at the same time?
[07:01] <skegeek> I did notice in a log yesterday something about "intel_drv" didn't exist and it was falling back to VESA. Could that mean it's not using the right driver for my Intel Mobile 965 Express Chipset?
[07:01] <DrPenguin> skegeek: haha most definitly
[07:01] <DrPenguin> sounds like your missing the actual intel driver, intel_drv.so
[07:02] <DrPenguin> so, whats happening is that X is falling back to the vesa driver because your missing the intel X driver
[07:03] <skegeek> Ahh. Where do I get it, I couldn't find a download...
[07:04] <DrPenguin> if you just reinstall the intel driver package it should repair it.. xserver-video-intel I think is the name…? im missing a piece.. do a dpkg -l | grep video, I think the way its called is xserver-video-blah-driver
[07:05] <achipanaluchu> i use ubuntu 11.10
[07:05] <achipanaluchu> can you help me change color on menu bar ?
[07:05] <achipanaluchu> i use gnome shell
[07:06] <achipanaluchu> i'm using gnome shell
[07:10] <skegeek> Ok, I just reinstalled the video driver package. I assume it requires a restart to take effect?
[07:10] <DrPenguin> skegeek: you can just kill X
[07:10] <skegeek> Ctrl+Alt+F4?
[07:10] <DrPenguin> sudo pkill X
[07:10] <DrPenguin> or sudo services gdm restart
[07:11] <skegeek> Ok.
[07:11] <skegeek> brb
[07:13] <almoxarife> achipanaluchu: the color is decided by your choice of 'theme', you need to decide then of what theme gives you the desired colors
[07:13] <Finnish> hi. What's the best way to transfer (with success..) mp3-files to my iPad?
[07:13] <DrPenguin> Finnish: try gtkpod
[07:13] <root> ??
[07:13] <root> helle
[07:13] <Finnish> DrPenguin, Ok, I'll try that
[07:14] <skegeek> Ok, I've restarted the DM, but I'm still getting "Could not apply the stored configuration for monitors" error window.
[07:14] <DrPenguin> Finnish: your gonna need some libs as well to handle newer iOS's too, I forget what they are called, but it helps with handling issues with udev mounting the device.. its like libimobile or some bs
[07:15] <skegeek> The window doesn't have a close button either.
[07:15] <DrPenguin> skegeek: do you have any kind of window decoration?
[07:15] <skegeek> Default
[07:15] <skegeek> for 11.10
[07:16] <Finnish> DrPenguin, Ah, wait a minute. I've tried my iPad with gtkpod but there's something that just isn't right. I can mount it, ok, but I need to select appropriate model (mine is 32gb 3G) and I don't know what to choose from the list
[07:16] <DrPenguin> ok thats a good sign.. can you see if it loaded X with intel this time or just vesa?
[07:16] <DrPenguin> Finnish: then figure out which one to choose :P
[07:16] <almoxarife> skegeek: its nvidia?
[07:17] <Finnish> DrPenguin, Ok, I guess I have to do that... But I see mp3's going to iPad but music player can't see 'em in iPad. Maybe I need to do some more testing and tweaking etc?
[07:17] <DrPenguin> Finnish: they may not be going into the ipad properly, probably to some weird storage area that the ipad doesnt look at
[07:18] <Finnish> DrPenguin, Yeah, I'll look into that
[07:18] <DrPenguin> when you fix it, make sure you smack your self with the ipad, and go android next time :P
[07:18] <skegeek> It appears intel_drv loaded as well as vesa
[07:18] <DrPenguin> skegeek: it will only load one X driver, not 2
[07:19] <achipanaluchu> @ i'm using 11.10 gnome shell, how i can change my themes??
[07:20] <skegeek> Here is xorg.0.log regarding video http://pastebin.com/uL7sz3EP
[07:21] <DrPenguin> skegeek: yeah… tahts how X works when it tries to figure stuff out on its own, it loads the 3 best drivers, then gets rid of the 2 worst ones, vesa and fbdev are getting unloaded eventually
[07:22] <skegeek> I have Intel Mobile 965 Express Chipset, not sure if thats Nvidia or not.
[07:22] <DrPenguin> your not serious.. .right
[07:22] <skegeek> I don't think its Nvidia, but I'm not a hardware guru.
[07:22] <DrPenguin> i would think its blatently clear its intel
[07:23] <DrPenguin> (considering intel is in its name)
[07:23] <skegeek> Nvidia is owned by Intel..so
[07:23] <DrPenguin> …. say what again
[07:23] <DrPenguin> did you bang your head or something?
[07:24] <DrPenguin> intel most definitely does not own nvidia
[07:24] <DrPenguin> they compete on processors for Gods sake
[07:24] <skegeek> I thought Nvidia is a subsidiary of Intel.
[07:24] <DrPenguin> nooooooooooo way jose
[07:24] <skegeek> Like I said, I'm not a hardware guru
[07:25] <skegeek> Either way, you have your answer...intel not nvidia
[07:25] <yuri2> Hi, Can you suggest where can I download HUAWI 3g dongle drivers?
[07:26] <DrPenguin> yuri2: googles a nice start
[07:26] <DrPenguin> skegeek: yeah its definitely intel.. can you post me the entire Xorg log?
[07:26] <DrPenguin> s/post/paste/
[07:27] <Curly_Q> Hey guys! I have VirtualBox running on Windows 7. I installed Xubuntu and cannot sudo apt-get update. Any suggestions?
[07:28] <skegeek> http://pastebin.com/xGHFENm5
[07:28] <DrPenguin> Curly_Q: first check to make sure you have a net connection.. id imagine your virtual ethernet adapter settings may be off.. but its hard to tell when you just say "it doesnt work"
[07:28] <Curly_Q> Could it be that Xubuntu is not supported any longer? I got a 404 IP not found message in the command prompt.
[07:29] <DrPenguin> not sure.. I was using lubuntu the other day and it was working.. are you sure you have an internet connection?
[07:29] <Curly_Q> Yes the connection is OK.
[07:29] <Curly_Q> Ifconfig -a works.
[07:29] <DrPenguin> skegeek: odd.. your xorg log doesnt match your error message.. your modeline.. what refresh rate did you set it as?
[07:30] <Curly_Q> Because it is a Virtual connection, perhaps it is a Windows 7 issue. Not sure. This is my first time at this.
[07:30] <DrPenguin> actually, give me the entire modeline, res n all
[07:30] <DrPenguin> Curly_Q: I doubt that
[07:30] <DrPenguin> I have an Ubuntu VM on my work computer and it can access the ubuntu repos no issue on our corp net
[07:32] <skegeek> This is the command I used:  xrandr --newmode "1280x1024_60.00"  109.00  1280 1368 1496 1712  1024 1027 1034 1063 -hsync +vsync
[07:32] <skegeek> I got it from cvt command
[07:33] <DrPenguin> well.. looking at your xorg log.. X is reading 1280x1024_60 from the EDID.. but it doesnt seem to register it for your video output
[07:33] <DrPenguin> so its probably not supported
[07:34] <engagendy> #mansoura
[07:35] <skegeek> Impossible. I've used this monitor with 1280x1024 for months on Windows.
[07:35] <engagendy> hello All,
[07:35] <engagendy> it's my first time here in IRC chatting
[07:35] <DrPenguin> skegeek: it could also be a limitation of your driver man, im just reading your log thats all
[07:35] <DrPenguin> and that what its telling me
[07:35] <DrPenguin> engagendy: welcome!
[07:35] <engagendy> DrPenguin thanks
[07:35] <engagendy> i've a question
[07:35] <skegeek> As in, Windows driver can handle it, but Linux driver can't?
[07:36] <engagendy> how can u join rooms
[07:36] <flexible> engagendy: /j #room
[07:36] <engagendy> thanks
[07:36] <engagendy> alot
[07:36] <DrPenguin> skegeek: yeah, pretty much.. just look at the log. under the VGA1 section, the max supported probe res is 1024x768
[07:36] <skegeek> Did you find anything to explain why the system likes to freeze when it sees fit?
[07:37] <DrPenguin> skegeek: nah, but it could be X barfing, no idea, but I dont think its related
[07:38] <wadkar> where do I ask question about Network-Manager , I am on ubuntu 11.04 - updated yesterday
[07:40] <wadkar> Network-manager refuses to connect to my VPN (I installed network-manager-vpnc plugin BTW)
[07:40] <wadkar> it says " state: VPN connecting (need authentication) (2) " and dies with failure
[07:40] <skegeek> Well, if the driver cannot handle it, how come the laptop's built-in LCD can do 1280x800?
[07:41] <DrPenguin> skegeek: different video output
[07:41] <DrPenguin> skegeek: if you look in your Xorg log, LVDS1 can do up to 1280x800 or whatever.. thats your monitor display
[07:41] <skegeek> Then VGA has limitations which LVCD doesn't?
[07:41] <DrPenguin> obviously?
[07:42] <wadkar> DrPenguin: apart from ##networking where should Network-Manager related questions go ?
[07:43] <skegeek> I don't understand why my 15-19" FlatScreen CRT worked at 1280x1024, but this 17" LCD cannot.
[07:44] <DrPenguin> i dunno man, Monitors are a goofy thing
[07:44] <skegeek> The only thing different was the version of Ubuntu.
[07:44] <skpl> is there a way to recover my password in ubuntu?
[07:44] <DrPenguin> you need to rely on the monitor, the EDID probed, the version of X, your X driver, the video output, its a PITA
[07:44] <skegeek> 11.10 is what seems to be a PITA!
[07:45] <DrPenguin> lolduh
[07:46] <skegeek> Unfortunately, I've developed this little habbit of not giving up on challenges - even when I probably should.
[07:47] <DrPenguin> lol… this one youm ight. X jsut sucks
[07:47] <skegeek> Part of why I'm known as a geek I think (aside of the fact I openly admit it).
[07:47] <overclucker> skpl: recovering a password can be time consuming. it's usually best just to reset your password.
[07:47] <jayar> how do i make a startup script to get SMB to run when it restarts
[07:48] <jayar> and mount /media/160gb/
[07:48] <DrPenguin> jayar: there is a startup applications.. thing in ubuntu, I think under preferences or admin, write a shell script and stick it in there
[07:49] <jayar> see how you put "write a shell script" at the end of your sentence...
[07:49] <jayar> what language is that
[07:49] <jayar> tcl? perl?
[07:49] <DrPenguin> jayar: either bourne, bourne again, python, whatever
[07:49] <jayar> is it a conf?
[07:50] <DrPenguin> no.. thats not a shell script
[07:50] <Robban_> Hi there, anyone that know if ther's a driver for Microchips SPI/ethernet chip ENC624J600?
[07:50] <jayar> i never did shell stuff
[07:50] <DrPenguin> jayar: #bash
[07:50] <jayar> i've been on IRC since '97 and my freinds did that stuff... freebsd days "holla"
[07:50] <jayar> mkay
[07:50] <almoxarife> jayar: are you using a real ubuntu install?
[07:50] <jayar> whats a fake ubuntu install?
[07:51] <jayar> im runnin 11.10 server
[07:51] <jayar> i dont have a stick long enough to wake up my friend in chicago for that
[07:52] <wadkar> please help me, my network manager wont connect to my VPN
[07:52] <wadkar> I am not able to do any dev work
[07:52] <wadkar> please help !!!
[07:52] <jayar> beg more, wadkar
[07:53] <wadkar> jayar: lol, I asked my question, nobody noticed, the nagging !!! at least gets a reply
[07:54] <jayar> tis all good wad, this is a good place, if someones on that knows, they'll help you out :)
[07:54] <wadkar> jayar: sometimes I feel that acting like a sufficiently stupid n00b gets you enough help
[07:54] <jayar> hehe
[07:55] <jayar> those that know the answer will hook you up
[07:55] <wadkar> a simple meta-question about network-manager goes unnoticed, at least tell people the right channel , or quit channel idling
[07:55] <jayar> right on
[07:56] <wadkar> !network
[07:56] <wadkar> !network-manager
[07:58] <almoxarife> wadkar: I assume the vpn is up?
[07:58] <wadkar> almostroot: of course, I can connect via " sudo vpnc-connect " , it doesnt play nice with NM
[07:59] <DrPenguin> wadkar: ok…. then you lied about not being able to do your work
[07:59] <almoxarife> wadkar: got you, a vpn connection requires what?
[08:00] <jayar> #bash says thats not a question for them
[08:00] <almoxarife> wadkar: an ip? some sort of user id? pass??? port?,
[08:00] <Uuser> Hi
[08:00] <DrPenguin> jayar: well it aint one for here. you need to learn how to write shell scripts
[08:01] <Kartagis> I have a weird problem. if I'm taking a screenshot and where I am saving it has a file with the same name and I say to replace it, I get the error at http://people.sabanciuniv.edu/mtozses/error.png . any ideas?
[08:02] <Uuser> What is the best window manager to use with AWN? excepting compiz
[08:02] <somsip> !best | Uuser
[08:03] <Kiro> Hi
[08:03] <Kiro> I've installed Ubuntu and now I'd like to install Windows on a different partition to dual boot
[08:04] <Kiro> there's 2 partitions on my hard drive, one is 3gb big...
[08:04] <geirha> jayar: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[08:04] <DrPenguin> Kiro: could be a swap pt
[08:04] <Uuser> i want a window manager that work with awn
[08:05] <Kiro> it's a part to reinstall windows
[08:05] <somsip> Uuser: what else do you want the WM to do?
[08:06] <Kiro> so anyway, I don't have any idea of how to do it, I've looked on google and there were only explanations of how to install ubuntu AFTER you installed windows
[08:06] <Kiro> anyone knows a good tutorial ?
[08:06] <DrPenguin> Kiro: arguably, its the same way, the only problem is your gonna need to REINSTALL grub because Windows automatically installs its bootloader to the MBR
[08:06] <Uuser> To work good with awn ,compiz has a lot of problems
[08:07] <Kiro> oh god I don't know what's grub nor a MBR... x)
[08:07] <ssfdre38> how can i make a new partition on my os
[08:07] <DrPenguin> Kiro: grub is a boot loader, the MBR is your master boot record
[08:08] <DrPenguin> ssfdre38: fdisk, cfdisk, gparted, parted, etc etc
[08:08] <somsip> Uuser: anything else?
[08:09] <Uuser> Yes
[08:09] <leah> Question:  I have no cd and no flash drive.  How do i install ubuntu 64 on this machine
[08:09] <DrPenguin> leah: get one or the other?
[08:10] <Uuser> You can use grub-customizer from ubuntu live cd to fix mbr after windows install
[08:10] <leah> DrPenguin, Is there any way i can do it without either  just from the hard drive or something.  create a partisan or something?
[08:10] <Kiro> DrPenguin : https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/dualboot-procedure.html tells me to "Choose Manually edit partition table." during the Ubuntu installation to create multiple partitions... :/
[08:11] <ssfdre38> in fdisk for size is it in mb or kb?
[08:11] <Kiro> but I already have ubuntu D:
[08:11] <DrPenguin> Kiro: *sigh* just get your system setup to install Windows (ie, make an empty partition), install it, then reinstall grub
[08:11] <DrPenguin> its THAT simple
[08:12] <Kiro> but I have 400go of data on my current partition, installing windows will format the drive
[08:12] <DrPenguin> no it wont
[08:12] <somsip> Uuser: maybe this will help http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_X_window_managers
[08:12] <Uuser> After windows install. enter a ubuntu live cd install grub-customize and reinstall grub
[08:13] <Kiro> I just tried, the installer told me WARNING it's going to erase every data on this partition, make a back-up !
[08:14] <Curly_Q> DrPenguin, thanks for the suggestions. I decided to download the latest Ubuntu kernel 11.10  iso and work with that with VBox.
[08:14] <DrPenguin> Kiro: because your not doing your install right
[08:14] <DrPenguin> Curly_Q: no problemo
[08:14] <DrPenguin> Kiro	you obviously want to install windows to a BLANK partition, not your ubuntu 1.. duh
[08:14] <Uuser> g alerey tried that ,i tried xfwm and not work
[08:15] <atvr> hi i need help
[08:15] <Uuser> after install xfwm the graphical effects not work
[08:17] <Uuser> so i want a wwindow manager to replace compiz
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> Uuser: xfwm doesn't support effects
[08:17] <bullgard4> 'man streamripper': "streamripper includes a relay server for listening to the station while you are recording." How can I make Ubuntu 11.10 GNOME Shell 3.2.1 to produce an audible sound of the stream that I am recording at the same time?
[08:17] <somsip> Uuser: all WMs replace compiz. I've tried to ask you what else you want it to do, but you're not clarifying, so I can't help
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> Uuser: kwin can do effects, mutter can too afair
[08:17] <atvr> i am trying to install ubuntu 11.10, when i reach the menu that i have to choose only to try it or instal it, after i press install there alot of comand showing on the screen then the screen goes off, ive tryied installer with the alternative instal but it didnt work
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> atvr: what GPU do you use?
[08:18] <jayar> you send me to #bash, they send me back here
[08:18] <jayar> i'll figure it out
[08:18] <DrPenguin> jayar: learn how to write shell scripts
[08:18] <somsip> jayar: what is it you're tryng to do?
[08:18] <atvr> ActionParsnip: what is GPU i am new to ubuntu
[08:18] <jayar> im on it, Dr
[08:18] <jayar> i taught myself everything else
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> atvr: its not Ubuntu specific, it's your graphics chip
[08:18] <jayar> i jus like IRC cuz you get instant answers
[08:18] <DrPenguin> atvr: why didnt the alternative installer work?
[08:19] <Uuser> Kwim is for kde
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> Uuser: you can use kwin on gnome if you like, not sure if it wil cause issues
[08:19] <atvr> DrPenguin: hi man youve sugest me to try with the alternative installer about one hour ago,
[08:19] <jayar> somsip: get a disk to mount on startup, and SMB to start.. ubuntu 11.10 server
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> Uuser: it's like saying compiz is only for gnome, you can run LXDE and then use compiz as WM instead of openbox
[08:20] <somsip> !fstab | jayar
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> atvr: what video card do you use?
[08:20] <jayar> yea i looked at fstab
[08:20] <atvr> ActionParsnip: how can i know my GPU
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> atvr: does the system have a make and model?
[08:20] <DrPenguin> atvr: yeah, why didnt it work
[08:20] <atvr> ActionParsnip: AMD radeon i think
[08:20] <somsip> jayar: well, that's what does it. Is there some reaoson you need a bash script?
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> atvr: ko then add the boot option: nomodeset    or try: radeon.nomodeset=1
[08:21] <atvr> DrPenguin: it just did the same thing, the screen goes off and there nothing hapening
[08:21] <jayar> so i just put my mount in there... then how do i get SMB to run?
[08:21] <atvr> ActionParsnip: how do i do that lol
[08:21] <Uuser> i want a simple window manager that support graphicall effects like transparency
[08:21] <somsip> jayar: set it up so it works, start it as a service, AFAIR
[08:21] <DrPenguin> atvr: ifyour using the alternative installer.. then the nomodeset thing probably wont work
[08:21] <DrPenguin> because your not even dealing with a graphical thing now, just all text
[08:21] <bottiger> Is there a shell (i can put in my /etc/passwd) which allows people to create a persistant connection to my server without having shell access
[08:22] <atvr> DrPenguin: okay but how the hell i can solve this lol :)
[08:22] <DrPenguin> atvr: cant solve it til we know whats wrong
[08:22] <almoxarife> !info streamtuner2 | bullgard4
[08:22] <jayar> somsip: AFAIR? whats that
[08:22] <somsip> jayar: As far as i rememver
[08:23] <somsip> *remember
[08:23] <atvr> DrPenguin: how can i tell you whats wrong, after i choose install it, there some whit text showing then the screen goes off, and when i choose to only try it, the same hapen, but i here the ubuntu sound playing
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | atvr
[08:23] <jayar> oh
[08:23] <bullgard4> almoxarife: Your information is not new to me.
[08:24] <jayar> service, no tried that
[08:24] <almoxarife> bullgard4: neither is your question
[08:24] <DrPenguin> atvr: it doesnt make sense that the alternative isntaller does that too when you do install, because its not loading an X server
[08:25] <bullgard4> almoxarife: Your message has an impertinent tone. Try to obey a family-friendly tone here in this channel.
[08:25] <atvr> DrPenguin: what i should do ??
[08:25] <almoxarife> bullgard4: as was your initial response
[08:27] <atvr> DrPenguin: ??
[08:27] <DrPenguin> atvr: I dont know what to tell you, but like I said, it makes no sense that the alternative installer fails when in a non X environment
[08:28] <yangkun> ？？？
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> atvr: try the boot options I suggested, may help
[08:29] <bob_> pourtant le cd ne s'envole pas au delà des carcans dans lesquels je l'ai fouré
[08:29] <somsip> !fe | bob_
[08:29] <somsip> !fr | bob
[08:29] <atvr> ActionParsnip: i dont know how to put them, ive tryed to boot with this command install fp=false but it says install kernel was not found
[08:29] <clean> A linux acting as router must have at least two network cards, right ?
[08:30] <bob_> wouai fais chier , mais bon j'ai toute la matiné pour me faire chier à lancer cette grosse connerie
[08:30] <DrPenguin> clean: you mean a computer that shares its internet connection? peer to peer deal?
[08:30] <pangolin> swearing in french is also not acceptable
[08:30] <clean> DrPenguin: yes
[08:30] <jayar> heh
[08:30] <DrPenguin> clean: most definitely yes you need 2
[08:31] <atvr> ActionParsnip:  what do i need to type exacly
[08:31] <atvr> ActionParsnip: and when to type it
[08:32] <clean> DrPenguin:hmm, if I want the computer act as an gateway for a private network, it should have at least two network cards?
[08:32] <DrPenguin> clean: um.. yeah
[08:32] <clean> DrPenguin: and then set the static route table with the command route ?
[08:32] <DrPenguin> clean: that I dont know, all I know is you need atleast 2
[08:33] <clean> DrPenguin: Is it necessary to enable ip forwarding/port forwarding etc ?
[08:33] <clean> ok
[08:33] <atvr> ActionParsnip: please help me lol i am desperat to get ubuntu running,
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> atvr: use the boot option:  nomodeset   or:  radeon.nomodeset=1    the link ubottu gave shows the method
[08:34] <harsh343> how to open the rar file in ubuntu through command
[08:35] <atvr> ActionParsnip: okay thanks you :)
[08:35] <somsip> harsh343: unrar {filename}
[08:36] <glintond> come and chat with  me  28/m/perth
[08:36] <Kartagis> I have a weird problem. if I'm taking a screenshot and where I am saving it has a file with the same name and I say to replace it, I get the error at http://people.sabanciuniv.edu/mtozses/error.png . any ideas?
[08:37] <harsh343> is this ok volition@volition-H61M-DS2:~/Downloads$ unrar Oreilly.Head.First.PHP.and.MySQL.Dec.2008
[08:37] <harsh343>  ?
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> harsh343: if you install unp, you can use unp for all archives
[08:37] <harsh343> somsip, ?
[08:37] <glintond> come and chat with me 28/m/perth
[08:37] <harsh343> ok
[08:37] <somsip> harsh343: that file does not have a .rar suffix, so it may not work
[08:38] <harsh343> ok
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> !piracy | harsh343
[08:38] <linoge> Hi, does skype consume so much CPU power as my eyes are observing? Or it's something with my machine?
[08:38] <iceroot> linoge: second
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> linoge: how did you install it?
[08:38] <linoge> ActionParsnip: from software center
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> linoge: and what is the output of:  uname -m
[08:39] <linoge> ActionParsnip: i686
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> linoge: should be ok, try the deb from the skype site, its usually a slightly later version
[08:40] <linoge> ActionParsnip: Ok... it's weird, pulseaudio and skype are crazy
[08:40] <cyphase> anyone know how i can install xchat-gnome 0.30 on natty?
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> !info xchat-gnome natty
[08:41] <iceroot> !info xchat-gnome natty
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | cyphase
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> cyphase: may be a ppa in that link
[08:42] <atvr> ActionParsnip: ive chek the site that youve seed me, but that is not the same version i am trying to install so its not the same setup
[08:42] <cyphase> ActionParsnip, i dont think so, i already checked
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> cyphase: I believe it will need GTK3, so you may have an issue
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> atvr: it's the same boot loader, so the method is identical
[08:44] <mazda01> how do i change the setting for gnome-terminal to allow more history
[08:44] <atvr> ActionParsnip: jizz i just dont understand can you please explan me how to do it, i am new to this and this is very frustating me
[08:44] <ThomasBoxley> mazda01: Edit > Profile Preferences > Scrolling > Scrollback: Unlimited
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> atvr: hold SHIFT at boot and you should get the old boot screen
[08:49] <ThomasBoxley> hi
[08:49] <ThomasBoxley> wow
[08:50] <ThomasBoxley> 5 minutes without a question
[08:52] <Mrokii> hello. Can somebody tell me where Ubuntu saves file-associations (which app opens which files)? The problem I have that for some months now Ubuntu tries to open lots of "files" (including folders) in gedit instead of the proper app.
[08:52] <ThomasBoxley> Mrokii: I can't, but I can tell you a program called Ubuntu Tweak will allow you to easily edit the file associations.
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: I believe it's in ~/.mimetypes
[08:54] <j0bi2> hello good morning
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: if you right click files, you can change file associations there
[08:55] <j0bi2> can i burn the cd iso image to a dvd and install the ubuntu 11.10 to my pc?
[08:55] <Mrokii> ActionParsnip: I tried that (right-clicking), but it didn't help
[08:55] <smurfslover> good morning, anyone who can help me with cd/dvd permissions at boot?
[08:55] <Mrokii> ThomasBoxley: I think I already tried UbuntuTweak as well.
[08:55] <Mrokii> ThomasBoxley: But will have another look.
[08:55] <j0bi2>  can i burn the cd iso image to a dvd and install the ubuntu 11.10 to my pc?
[08:56] <smurfslover> my system always set permissions to 660 at boot then i need to run k3bsetup to change them back to 666 to get my burners working
[08:56] <jayar> how do i edit fstab without gettin into ubuntu?
[08:56] <theadmin> jayar: LiveCD?
[08:56] <j0bi2>  can i burn the cd iso image to a dvd and install the ubuntu 11.10 to my pc?
[08:56] <theadmin> jayar: Just open your Ubuntu drive and edit the file
[08:57] <theadmin> j0bi2: Um, yes, that's what you normally do with them
[08:57] <Mrokii> ThomasBoxley: Nope, UbuntuTweak won't help. The problematic filetypes aren't even mentioned in there.
[08:57] <jayar> i have a ubuntu usb... i just edited fstab to add a drive to load on boot, like you guys said, now it wont boot at all
[08:57] <OY1R> jayar, sudo nano path/to/fstab (from a livecd
[08:57] <OY1R> or USB
[08:58] <j0bi2> theadmin:  i am asking IF the CD ISO in a DVD will work to boot from that and install
[08:58] <jayar> it says "the disk drive for / is no ready yet or not present. Continue to wait or press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery
[08:58] <theadmin> j0bi2: Ah, the DVD part... Yeah, it works with DVDs
[08:59] <DrPenguin> j0bi2: that doesnt matter
[08:59] <DrPenguin> theres no such thing as a "CD" iso
[08:59] <DrPenguin> an isos an iso
[09:00] <Mrokii> ThomasBoxley: Or at least I can't find the association for folders in UbuntuTweak.
[09:00] <theadmin> j0bi2: What (s)he said.
[09:00] <ThomasBoxley> Mrokii: Hold on, I'll screenshot it
[09:01] <j0bi2> Thank you all
[09:01] <j0bi2> for the help
[09:01] <ThomasBoxley> Mrokii: http://tbpic.us.to/i/DmSoM1.png, Filetype Manager under System
[09:01] <bullgard4> 'man streamripper': "streamripper includes a relay server for listening to the station while you are recording." How can I make Ubuntu 11.10 GNOME Shell 3.2.1 to produce an audible sound of the stream that I am recording at the same time?
[09:03] <Mrokii> ThomasBoxley: That's where I am, and there are lots of filetypes associated with gedit, but none of them sound as if they represent actual folders.
[09:08] <Mrokii> ActionParsnip: I found a file "/etc/mime.types" only, but that isn't helpful either.
[09:09] <almoxarife> Mrokii: what are you trying to do with gedit and mime?
[09:11] <Mrokii> almostroot: My problem is that, for several months now, different files are being opened with gedit instead of the apps they should be opened with. the most problematic of these are the trashcan (when I click on it in Cairo-dock) and regular folders (which I can open from the desktop still. But when I connect a flashcard-reader for example, the folder isn't opened as usual, but in gedit).
[09:12] <harsh343> mysql version check command in ubuntu
[09:12] <harsh343> ?
[09:12] <almoxarife> Mrokii: did you use 'open with gedit' in nautilus in the past in those file types?
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> harsh343: apt-cache policy mysql
[09:12] <Mrokii> almoxarife: Definitely not.
[09:13] <harsh343> ActionParsnip, ok
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> harsh343: or maybe:  mysql --version
[09:13] <Mrokii> almoxarife: For folders I can't even change that association.
[09:13] <harsh343> i got it select version();
[09:13] <harsh343> Thanks
[09:14] <almoxarife> Mrokii: folders associated with 'gedit' does seem hard to do
[09:14] <Mrokii> almoxarife: I don't know why it happened and I was never able to find a solution.
[09:16] <smurfslover> hello, anyone who can help me out with dvd writer permissions at boot?
[09:17] <Abid> hi..what ISO i need to download if I am using AMD thlon..?
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: if you right click, is the app you want listed?
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> Abid: if its 64bit, then grab the amb64 ISO
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> Abid: remember to MD5 test
[09:19] <Abid> ActionParsnip,  it has 64 on sticker . can I use 32 bit for it..? would i386 not work..?
[09:19] <Mrokii> ActionParsnip: if I right-click on a folder I can try "open with file-manager". But then I get an error-requester saying "Failed to execute default File Manager. Failed to execute child process "gedit" (No such file or directory)". That is because I deinstalled gedit out of frustration of that problem.
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: is there not ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1519432
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> Abid: you can use both
[09:20] <theadmin> Abid: You can use 32-bit on 64-bit processor, just not vice versa. However, if your processor is 64-bit, 64-bit version is recommended. EOD.
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> Abid: if you have less than 2Gb RAM then I doubt 64Bitness will give you much
[09:21] <smurfslover> Mrokii, check if you have shared-mime-info installed
[09:21] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Still gives native instruction access, but yeah, true enough
[09:22] <smurfslover> Mrokii, and gnome-mime-data
[09:22] <Abid> ActionParsnip,  I have 1 gb ram , my question is would normal i386 iso work for my pc or i have to download other for AMD if yes any link
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> Abid: yes the i386 will give a 64bit OS with no issues
[09:22] <Mrokii> ActionParsnip: I found the mimeapps.list and there is an entry: "inode/directory=nautilus-folder-handler.desktop".
[09:22] <theadmin> Abid: "i386" stands for 32-bit, "amd64" stands for 64-bit, no matter whether you have Intel or AMD
[09:23] <Mrokii> ActionParsnip: I'll take a look at the thread.
[09:24] <Abid> theadmin,  ok I got it . I thought there were different ISOs for intel and amd . thank you for the info
[09:24] <Mrokii> smurfslover: Shared-mime-info is installed. As is Gnome-mime-data.
[09:24] <theadmin> Abid: In the Linux world, they are called this way pretty much because Intel started the 32-bit architecture, and AMD started the 64-bit one.
[09:25] <Mrokii> smurfslover: But what can I do with these?
[09:26] <Abid> theadmin,  ok but i386 was a processor from intel not mean a general 32 bit one . like i586 was called pentium
[09:36] <jiltdil> Any alternatie for silverlight in ubuntu?
[09:36] <almoxarife> jiltdil: yeap, moon??? something
[09:37] <azi> i've installed the new ubuntu and the desktop usability is very bad.. is there any way I could switch to the old fashioned windowed system?
[09:37] <jiltdil> almoxarife,  hm.. thanks
[09:37] <azi> old windowing mechanism, old menu  bar etc..
[09:37] <patrunjel> Hi guys. I have a star chart that consists basically of black dots on a white background. I want to invert the colors, and then turn the white color into red. The charts are in pdf format, can you please help me out with doing that?
[09:37] <jiltdil> azi: choose from login sessin
[09:38] <azi> jiltdil: i have aoutlogin enabled, what should i choose anywaY?
[09:38] <jiltdil> azi: disable autologin :P then do
[09:39] <azi> jiltdil: what should i choose then?
[09:39] <Shucky> hi all
[09:39] <patrunjel> Hi guys. I have a star chart that consists basically of black dots on a white background. I want to invert the colors, and then turn the white color into red. The charts are in pdf format, can you please help me out with doing that?
[09:39] <jiltdil> azi: which ubuntu u r using?
[09:39] <Shucky> i want to use wkhtmltopdf on my ubuntu server
[09:40] <Shucky> but i have this error wkhtmltopdf: cannot connect to X server
[09:40] <azi> jiltdil: latest version available for download?
[09:40] <jiltdil> azi:select ubuntu 2d then
[09:40] <azi> jiltdil: ok tnx
[09:40] <Shucky> i try this but it don't work http://drupal.org/node/870058
[09:40] <metaspike> hm
[09:40] <Shucky> any idea?
[09:42] <almoxarife> !info wkhtmltopdf
[09:42] <Starminn> What is the status of the Equinox theme being available on Ubuntu 11.10, Oneiric Ocelot? I can get the window borders, but the GTK theme isn't showing up in the "GTK+ Theme" option in Advanced Settings.
[09:43] <sidvee> I ran into this serious issue. All the videos/audio are running very fast. and i cant hear the audio too. please help!
[09:43] <almoxarife> Shucky: install it via package and save yourself the headache?
[09:44] <Shucky> i install with apt-get
[09:45] <almoxarife> Shucky: is that a question?
[09:45] <Shucky> no
[09:45] <Shucky> :)
[09:45] <metaspike> Shucky, are you trying to run as root or somesuch?
[09:46] <Shucky> no root, no sudo
[09:47] <almoxarife> Shucky: did you install the package or follow the link? the link does not install the package
[09:47] <th^2> okay how come my unity lenses arent working?
[09:47] <th^2> do i have to launch them somehow?
[09:47] <Shucky> it do apt-get install wkhtmltopdf and apt-get install xvbf
[09:47] <sidvee> Any video or audio I play from web or HDD goes to fast forward. Please help.!
[09:48] <davidcalle> th^2, if you have hust installed them, log out and log in. They are started with the session.
[09:48] <davidcalle> just*
[09:48] <th^2> davidcalle, :S
[09:49] <th^2> davidcalle, you sure they cannot be launched manually?
[09:49] <davidcalle> th^2, there is another way, sure :)
[09:49] <Mrokii> so... it seems my problem is that, for whatever reason, gedit is set as the default file manager. Does anybody know how I can change that?
[09:49] <th^2> davidcalle, soo how do i do that?
[09:50] <metaspike> sidvee, that's the craziest thing ive ever heard.
[09:50] <sidvee> And the craziest thing I have ever came across
[09:50] <sidvee> metaspike: and the craziest thing I have ever came across
[09:51] <iceroot> the craziest thing is the amount of shortcuts emacs is offering
[09:51] <metaspike> sidvee, but apparently you are not alone. http://askubuntu.com/questions/85216/videos-songs-and-all-media-playing-in-fast-forward
[09:51] <davidcalle> th^2, first you need to restart Unity (with "setsid unity"), it won't restart your session, just Compiz. Then you have to go to /usr/lib/ and find the folders related to the lenses/scopes you have installed (often named unity-lens-something, unity-scope-something). In these folders, you will find the executables.
[09:52] <th^2> davidcalle, okay thanks :)
[09:52] <davidcalle> th^2, yw
[09:52] <art> hi
[09:55] <lalagirl> hi everyone
[09:55] <lalagirl> hi everyone
[09:55] <lalagirl> hi everyone
[09:56] <lalagirl> hi everyone
[09:57] <sidvee> lalagirl: It's not a adult chat site. Shoo!!
[09:57] <lalagirl> ?
[09:57] <Guest2378> ?
[09:57] <froes_> hi guys.. how can i install  libmp4v2-dev  on oneiric 11.10 ???
[09:58] <almoxarife> Mrokii: can you paste.bin /etc/gnome/defaults.list
[09:59] <billyard> how do i change my fstab
[09:59] <sidvee> metaspike: Goodness me!! That worked! Phew! Must have fiddled with the settings. Crazy errror that was.
[09:59] <napster> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0930:0508 Toshiba Corp. Integrated Bluetooth HCI I use ubuntu 11.04 and I'm unable to browse files on remote devices. Can someone help me to figure out the issue?
[10:00] <lalagirl> hi everyone
[10:00] <narian> i think im in love with my sister in law. what should i do? i need advice
[10:01] <Mrokii> almoxarife: http://pastebin.com/E4CLGHP8
[10:01] <stjohnmedrano> good day, it seems that icedtea plugin wont work, iam using 12.04, anywork around beside installing java?
[10:01] <lalagirl> narian marry her?
[10:01] <narian> lalagirl: im married to her sis
[10:02] <narian> maybe i shold wait it out
[10:02] <bullgard4> 'man streamripper': "streamripper includes a relay server for listening to the station while you are recording." How can I make Ubuntu 11.10 GNOME Shell 3.2.1 to produce an audible sound of the stream that I am recording at the same time?
[10:02] <lalagirl> narian get divorced and marry her sister?
[10:02] <narian> but when we have eye contact i feel high
[10:02] <almoxarife> Mrokii: what do you use to install/uninstall packages?
[10:03] <lalagirl> narian lol dont do what i told you
[10:03] <Mrokii> almoxarife: Synaptic
[10:03] <lalagirl> narian it was a joke
[10:03] <billyard> narian: i work for the producer of Steve Wilkos
[10:03] <narian> lalagirl: its ok. i wont.
[10:03] <metaspike> narian, elope with her or just forget it. unless her parents would be cool with it which i doubt. wait, what does this have to do with ubuntu?
[10:03] <narian> billyard: whos that
[10:04] <lalagirl> narian what i would do is tell your sister in law your deep feelings about her
[10:04] <narian> metaspike: i also love ubuntu lol
[10:04] <billyard> his wife?
[10:04] <KevinUZW> Does anyone know how to install Emacs 24 on Ubuntu?
[10:04] <almoxarife> Mrokii: cool, complete un-install 'gedit' , does it take anything with it besides ubuntu-desktop?
[10:04] <patrunjel> Can you guys help me switch black for white and viceversa in a pdf file?
[10:05] <billyard> patrunjel: thats not a ubuntu question but Gimp will do that for you
[10:05] <Mrokii> almoxarife: I already did uninstall gedit, but that didn't help.
[10:05] <metaspike> patrunjel, yeah, you could just use gpe-screenshot to capture the image, then gimp to edit it.
[10:06] <Shucky> almoxarife no other idea?
[10:06] <almoxarife> Mrokii: you mentioned cairo-dock?
[10:06] <lalagirl> hi
[10:06] <almoxarife> Shucky: none
[10:06] <Shucky> ok ok :(
[10:07] <Shucky> thx
[10:07] <Mrokii> almoxarife: The strange thing is that nautilus *still* tries to open things with gedit. And yes, I mentioned Cairo-dock, as that is part of the problematic apps. When I try to use folders or the trashcan from it, the system tries to open these in gedit instead of showing them as a folder.
[10:07] <lalagirl> hi
[10:07] <Mrokii> almoxarife: The same happens when I connect a flashcard-reader and the system tries to open the flaschard automatically.
[10:08] <Mrokii> *flashcard
[10:08] <geirha> Mrokii: grep directory ~/.local/share/applications/*
[10:09] <azi> i have a dual monitor setup and i've noticed that this new "side" menu is on the left monitor which is not the main one for me. i do not see any option to change that. anyone happens to know where could this be tweaked?
[10:11] <Mrokii> geirha: http://pastebin.com/m7FLuxfH -> Doesn't look helpful.
[10:14] <metaspike> does anyone have a decent line for mencoder mp3lame encoding with a nice quality/loss ratio?
[10:15] <geirha> Mrokii: Hm. You have a local nautilus-folder-handler.desktop. What does it Exec?   grep Exec ~/.local/share/applications/nautilus-folder-handler.desktop
[10:16] <shaihulud> lots and lots of shit yes
[10:16] <Mrokii> geirha: It tries to exec Nautilus
[10:18] <shaihulud> i need to clean mbr update chipset then killwipe agaon.. and yeah md5 chjeck proper shit(just found 0ut i auto connect and join irc
[10:19] <geirha> Mrokii: Ok, any of the other desktop files running gedit? My best guess is that one of the other entries for directories is causing the issue.   grep 'Exec=.*gedit' ~/.local/share/applications/*.desktop
[10:19] <shaihulud> but if you can and kind maybe you could help me
[10:20] <patrunjel> guys, can you please help me make my monitor reddish? (changing the RGB values)
[10:20] <geirha> Mrokii: And I've never seen  text/directory  mime before. Not sure if that could have anything to do with it or not.
[10:20]  * chrizMitZ is listening to Anouk - UpDate - 03 - Too Long (Acoustic Version), Progress Meter: .................... 
[10:20] <Mrokii> geirha: The only entry where gedit is mentioned is in "gedit.desktop"
[10:20] <froes_> hi guys.. how can i install  libmp4v2-dev  on oneiric 11.10 ??? it is a dependency for fuppes
[10:21] <lalagirl> !info libmp4v2-dev
[10:21] <lalagirl> !info libmp4v2
[10:21] <geirha> Mrokii: Odd that you have a local copy of gedit.desktop at all in there though.
[10:21] <metaspike> patrunjel, you can probably change RGB settings with your monitor itself.
[10:22] <froes_> humm
[10:22] <QUICKSTRE> FILM STREAMING! http://quickstream.altervista.org/
[10:22] <QUICKSTRE> FILM STREAMING! http://quickstream.altervista.org/
[10:22] <patrunjel> no, i have a netbook, i can't mess with the RGB settings from its monitor.
[10:24] <Mrokii> geirha: So you think I could delete that file?
[10:24] <RichiH> fwiw, QUICKSTRE is not on the network any more
[10:24] <metaspike> patrunjel, your foray into astronomy is commendable. if you sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager - you can then in terminal run ccsm, and change your RGB settings with ccsm, i forget how.
[10:24] <froes_> anyone able to install fuppes with mp4 support in oneiric ?
[10:25] <RichiH> what is the dev channel of ubuntu? alternatively, what is the canonical way to get debian packages into ubuntu?
[10:25] <geirha> Mrokii: If you delete it, it will use gedit.desktop from /usr/share/applications/ instead, so yes, it's safe to delete it from your homedir.
[10:26] <patrunjel> metaspike, thanks :)
[10:26] <Mrokii> geirha: Okay. Do I need to restart Nautilus (or Gnome) to make it notice the change?
[10:26] <skpl> can someone help me? i;ve forgotten my password
[10:27] <lalagirl> skpl what password? login password? administrator password?
[10:27] <skpl> login password
[10:27] <lalagirl> skpl http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[10:28] <geirha> Mrokii: No, it should pick it up automagically
[10:28] <th^2> howto change "boot order" in grub?
[10:28] <Mrokii> geirha: okay, thanks. Not that it changed anything though.
[10:29] <metaspike> froes_, you can still get it from here. http://code.google.com/p/mp4v2/downloads/detail?name=mp4v2-trunk-r479.tar.bz2 - download, extract, compile, package and install if you -really- need it.
[10:29] <dragonslay> th^2 go to /boot/grub/grub.cfg and reorder the entries
[10:30] <geirha> Mrokii: Well, I'm pretty sure it's something in ~/.local/share/applications causing this. If you move it away, things should work, but that removes all other customizations you've done too.  mv ~/.local/share/applications{,.backup}
[10:30] <geirha> Mrokii: All other customizations regarding which applications open what type of files, that is.
[10:30] <froes_> metaspike, yeah .. as far as i know it is the only one that can stream to xbox360
[10:31] <Mrokii> geirha: Could be worse. Probably worth giving it a try.
[10:31] <froes_> metaspike, i am trying to compile with mp4 support, but oneiric does not have libmp4v2
[10:31] <metaspike> i see... xbmc is a cross portable media center that runs on xbox and linux and is still being supported, maybe have a look there.
[10:31] <th^2> dragonslay, acutally i think im running grub 2
[10:31] <th^2> 1.99
[10:32] <geirha> Mrokii: Oh, and all the wine-launchers too. They all start with wine-* though, so you can copy them back after you've tried.
[10:32] <Mrokii> geirha: wow! That actually did it, thanks! Now I only have to find out what association caused the problem.
[10:32] <dragonslay> th^2 no prob. that is the locationn for grub2 config file
[10:33] <th^2> dragonslay, yes, on that you shouldnt edit...
[10:34] <lalagirl> |\/| /\ |\|
[10:34] <lalagirl> |\/|   /\   |\|
[10:34] <lalagirl> MAN
[10:34] <lalagirl> lol
[10:36] <dragonslay> th^2 this is straight forward but not the right approach, always have a backup.
[10:36] <th^2> dragonslay, actually correct way is to modify /etc/grub.d entries
[10:38] <dragonslay> th^2 if you are fine making all those executable scripts and editing script names . (add few command line work.)
[10:38] <vikas> I'm running 11.10 with Unity. How do I tell nm-applet to reconnect to WiFi automatically? (Currently if there's a power outage, the router reboots and the nm-applet pops up a dialog box with the password filled in and with a "Connect" button for confirmation)
[10:39] <vikas> btw, my home-dir is in a separate partition and I was using Debian before I installed Ubuntu, so I won't be surprised if this is a setting somewhere carried over from Debian in my home-dir
[10:39] <bullgard4> 'man streamripper': "streamripper includes a relay server for listening to the station while you are recording." How can I make Ubuntu 11.10 GNOME Shell 3.2.1 to produce an audible sound of the stream that I am recording at the same time?
[10:39] <makara> I have 2 screens. What plugin in CCSM controls displays? I want to move windows from one to the other using key shortcuts.
[10:40] <th^2> dragonslay, you dont have to write anything new... just change the number in every entry name to what you want, then grub-mkconfig
[10:42] <metaspike> vikas, in that user directory... all your old settings are in folders starting with .   so .q3a or .config whatever, they are prob incompatible. i dunno how nm-applet handles things, but its probably configurable so - man nm-apple - for details eh.
[10:42] <ubuntu> how can i tell if im running on a 64-bit ubuntu or a 32-bit ubuntu?
[10:43] <metaspike> ubuntu - uname -r  - in terminal
[10:44] <vikas> metaspike: thanks!
[10:44] <ubuntu> metaspike: thanks
[10:44] <makara_> hi. Powerspike. Anyone know about multiple displays in ccsm?
[10:46] <almoxarife> bullgard4: perhaps 'streamtuner2' (front end) for streamripper can? it plays while ripper records?
[10:47] <almoxarife> !info streamtuner2 | bullgard4
[10:48] <billyard> chown doesnt work
[10:48] <billyard> chmod doesnt work
[10:50] <bullgard4> almoxarife: Yes, streamtuner2 can. I have tested und proved that. I consider that a workaround.
[10:50] <harsh343> any good editor in ubuntu like dreamweaver ???
[10:51] <harsh343> design + coding
[10:51] <insectatorious> harsh343: http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/index.html
[10:51] <almoxarife> bullgard4: you question did not include a 'blacklisted.apps' subsection, would adding one be of help?
[10:52] <bullgard4> no.
[10:52] <dragonslay> harsh343: netbeans
[10:52] <metaspike> billyard, a couple examples. from terminal.  chmod +x ./runthis.sh  (make runthis executable) or chown -hR billyard:billyard ./thisdir/ (give billyard user and exclusive group privlillages to thisdir)  also... Steve Who?
[10:52] <almoxarife> bullgard4: I fear you may continue to get the same response :)
[10:53] <geirha> harsh343: Open the software center (shopping bag icon) and search for "html editor"
[10:53] <dragonslay> harsh343: even gedit has some syntax highligting.
[10:54] <metaspike> geany is a pretty good intermediate programming tool.
[10:55] <harsh343> dragonslay, yes I am using netbeans, Geany, gedit but how to see the design view in that ?
[10:56] <harsh343> insectatorious, design view ?
[10:56] <folsto> How to check whether ubuntu is running sysvinit or upstart? "locate sysvinit" "locate upstart"  shows both exist/
[10:57] <insectatorious> harsh343: doesn't have one im afraid...they expect you to do it all by hand...
[10:57] <metaspike> isn't sysvinit mandatory? i guess you could see what dpkg says is installed at least... dpkg-query -l | grep upstart -  etc
[10:57] <almoxarife> !info Kompozer
[10:58] <harsh343> insectatorious, ok thanks
[10:58] <mazda01> how do i change the setting for gnome-terminal to allow more history
[10:58] <insectatorious> harsh343: if you desperately want a WYSISYG editor, this might be of interest - http://webdesign.about.com/od/htmleditors/tp/aatpwyslinux.htm
[10:59] <folsto> metaspike: It says no such file or directory. But I can see there are lots of  .conf files in /etc/init which I assume is the upstart directory.
[11:00] <mazda01> lol, such a funny Q because someone answered but now I can't scroll far enough back in xchat to see it.
[11:00] <metaspike> mazda01, in terminal...   gedit ~/.bashrc  - in there you want HISTSIZE=<num> and HISTFILESIZE=<num>  - where <num> means number of lines to remember as such, learn something about bash enviroment variables
[11:01] <metaspike> although gnome terminal probably has some preferences thing for it lol dunno
[11:02] <mazda01> metaspike, thanks, i am testing out lxterminal. much smaller RAM footprint
[11:02] <folsto> does that mean both sysvinit and upstart run at startup. If not how can I check which one is being used currecntly?
[11:02] <harsh343> ok thanks again insectatorious
[11:02] <insectatorious> harsh343: no worries
[11:03] <makara_> mazda01: I think you mean the scrolling history. Go to profile preferences > Scrolling > Unlimited
[11:05] <mazda01> makara_, yeap, i got it. thanks guys
[11:06] <andyn> http://www.ocert.org/advisories/ocert-2011-003.html
[11:06] <andyn> trash 100k i7 cores with a single gigabit outbound connection
[11:08] <ArchangelSe7en> whats the most popular Linux distro ?
[11:08] <OerHeks> ArchangelSe7en, ubuntu it is.
[11:08] <ArchangelSe7en> OerHeks, didnt Ubuntu fall behind this year?
[11:09] <makara_> it had a hiccup
[11:09] <billyard> i need to change all of /etc/ to non-read only
[11:09] <makara_> chmod -r
[11:09] <trsi2> hi
[11:09] <OerHeks> ArchangelSe7en, better start this discussion in offtopic
[11:09] <billyard> chmod -r /etc/?
[11:09] <trsi2> latest Ubuntu is so slooow with 512mb ram :0
[11:10] <makara_> man chmod
[11:10] <zvacet> trsi2:  try lubuntu
[11:10] <ArchangelSe7en> OerHeks, where is that ?
[11:10] <trsi2> compiling cross compiler gcc 1 hour waiting and still going..
[11:10] <metaspike> trsi2, im sure it would be heaps faster if you replaced gnome with openbox lol
[11:10] <OerHeks> trippeh, you need 1 gb according to the specs.
[11:10] <jonatan> hello ?
[11:10] <OerHeks> !offtopic
[11:10] <billyard> didnt work
[11:10] <Tiago666> I need help installing the fglrx video drivers, after installing it keeps saying that I am on VESA:MADSON on system info
[11:11] <Tiago666> any help would be appreciated
[11:12] <trsi2> i like it, when i don't have command im getting message you can apt-get it :)
[11:12] <metaspike> Tiago666,  what does -  lspci | grep VGA -  tell you?
[11:12] <ArchangelSe7en> I see you're not there OerHeks
[11:12] <vmangudi`work> Tiago666: are you on VESA?
[11:13] <Tiago666> metaspike, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Madison [AMD Radeon HD 5000M Series]
[11:13] <pacos721> hello
[11:13] <Tiago666> vmangudi`work, I have installed the fglrx drivers
[11:13] <TheLastBaron> Hi guys
[11:14] <Tiago666> metaspike, any information you need, I can provide
[11:14] <metaspike> gratis
[11:14] <billyard> says changing permissions of /etc/: read-only file system
[11:14] <TheLastBaron> ^ See this is why I love the linux/ubuntu community
[11:15] <billyard> i need to get rid of READ ONLY
[11:15] <darkowlzz> how do I crash X-Windows system, ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't work in Ubuntu?
[11:15] <TheLastBaron> Use system monitor ?
[11:15] <Tiago666> darkowlzz, true
[11:15] <andyn> billyard: you need to remount the FS read-write, try the mount command with flags -o remount,rw
[11:16] <Tiago666> I think I am going back to Arch
[11:16] <Tiago666> there I can install the video drivers with no hassle
[11:16] <TheLastBaron> I actually have an old Toshiba Atrium ( i think it's called ) I'm gonna try to put Gentoo onto it
[11:16] <TheLastBaron> This one I will keep on ubuntu though
[11:16] <metaspike> Tiago666, in terminal - sudo aticonfig --initial
[11:17] <TheLastBaron> Although, I am such a n00b you will scream RTFM @me every single time I ask a question here
[11:17] <Tiago666> metaspike, ok, 1 second
[11:17] <darkowlzz> Tiago666, any alternative for c+a+backspace?
[11:17] <metaspike> Tiago666, then sudo service gdm reboot   (it will restart your X serssion
[11:18] <Tiago666> metaspike, Uninitialised file found, configuring.
[11:18] <Tiago666> Using /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:18] <TheLastBaron> Dear god this is geeky
[11:18] <Tiago666> metaspike, I think there occurred an error
[11:18] <TheLastBaron> What are you guys actually trying to accomplish if I may ask ?
[11:18] <metaspike> World Dominidation v_v
[11:19] <TheLastBaron> AWESOME
[11:19] <Tiago666> a cup of coffee
[11:19] <Tiago666> metaspike, any clues?
[11:19] <TheLastBaron> I just had mine actually it was great
[11:19] <TheLastBaron> I read something about .. ehrm, aticonfig, right ?
[11:19] <metaspike> Tiago666, yeah, rebooot, pray it works.
[11:20] <Tiago666> well
[11:20] <Tiago666> gonna restart
[11:20] <Tiago666> lets see
[11:20] <metaspike> lets indeed
[11:20] <TheLastBaron> *crossing fingers !*
[11:20] <TheLastBaron> So ehrm.. Metaspike, are you familiar with like, Wine and stuff ?
[11:21] <iinga> who isn't familiar with wine ;-)
[11:21] <metaspike> sure, why's that bro?
[11:21] <TheLastBaron> Sadly, I am not ..
[11:21] <opalepatrick_> suer this has been asked. How to stop nasty orange semi transparent overlay when changing workspaces.... sometimes. Just stays until I maximise something and then revert.
[11:21] <iinga> it was a pun ;-)
[11:21] <Tiago666> None of the commands worked
[11:21] <TheLastBaron> I just started out basically, bought a book about ubuntu/debian/linux .. and so on and so forth
[11:21] <Tiago666> metaspike, the command didnt restart the X
[11:21] <TheLastBaron> About 4 months in basically
[11:22] <g0to> hello
[11:22] <TheLastBaron> u know what, Instead of me filling up space we could check out Tiagos problem first so I won't feel like such a douche
[11:23] <g0to> I just created/formated a new partition on my hard disk but I can't write on it
[11:23] <metaspike> Tiago666, well. just reboot the computer then.
[11:23] <g0to> how can I change the partition permissions?
[11:23] <metaspike> "sudo reboot"
[11:23] <new2linx> is there an ubuntu irc channel for legal usage of ubuntu logo etc etc
[11:23] <TheLastBaron> now new2linx, u could try out asking in the forums
[11:23] <new2linx> and for making money by installing and admin'ing an ubuntu server?
[11:23] <TheLastBaron> no*
[11:24] <new2linx> ok, thanks
[11:24] <TheLastBaron> Don't think that's legal actually .. Or at least not parts of what you're wanting to achieve
[11:24] <iceroot> new2linx: for the second you dont need to ask someone
[11:24] <Sidewinder1> !who
[11:24] <iceroot> new2linx: for the first, there is a licence for the usage of the logo
[11:24] <new2linx> i'll just have to read canical's website
[11:24] <metaspike> g0to, in fstab... something like - /dev/sda1	/media/store	ext3	rw,user,auto
[11:24] <metaspike> sudo gedit /etc/fstab - that is
[11:24] <new2linx> iceroot, oh, and you think it's legal for me to sell ubuntu and adminitster legally?
[11:24] <iceroot> new2linx: of course
[11:25] <new2linx> SELL F.O.S.S. really?
[11:25] <iceroot> new2linx: you can of course sell ubuntu
[11:25] <opalepatrick_> ok see it is posted as a bug
[11:25] <new2linx> and you're absolutely positive?
[11:25] <new2linx> sorry i am off-topic guys
[11:25] <ahmrahtcheer> howdy y'all!  I just bought a Samsung  Series 3 computer that's only been on the market a couple of months.  Want to install Ubuntu 11.1, but when i attempt to run the LiveCD, the screen goes dead (not blank, dead) after about 30 seconds.  How can I pass nomodeset to the boot line?
[11:25] <metaspike> new2linx, you can sell it in the sense that you are selling your service to install it, or your service to provide it on the disk, but it in itself must remain free.
[11:25] <g0to> metaspike: there is no information about that partition (sda3) on /etc/fstab
[11:25] <iceroot> new2linx: the one you are not allowed to do is so remaster ubuntu to something else and sell it as "ubuntu"
[11:26] <new2linx> ok, check guys. thanks!
[11:26] <iceroot> new2linx: but the normal ubuntu versions you can sell as many as you want to any price
[11:26] <TheLastBaron> So one could actually take like .. the linux kernel, or a debian-oriented release, and make money off of it ?
[11:26] <Sidewinder1> new2linx, I believe iceroot is correct; also look at as more selling your admin. services..
[11:26] <metaspike> new2linx, and be advertised as free...
[11:26] <new2linx> ahmrahtcheer, do you even get to a screen which has an option to run in safe graphics mode?
[11:27] <iceroot> new2linx: but!! if you sell ubuntu you have to grant access to the sources
[11:27] <dragonslay> iceroot: people can sell linux .. read the GPL
[11:27] <metaspike> but your "service" as it where, well, charge what you like
[11:27] <new2linx> iceroot, of course
[11:27] <iceroot> new2linx: but the sources are public so you dont have to do anything aditional
[11:27] <TheLastBaron> sudo apt-get install irssi irssi-scripts screen openssh-server
[11:27] <iceroot> dragonslay: and what is your point? that is what i am saying
[11:27] <new2linx> sounds good, guess i'll pull that trigger on $130 and start my LLC then
[11:27] <new2linx> :-)
[11:27] <ahmrahtcheer> TheLastBaron, you can't really make money off of any Linux distribution or variation thereof.  What RedHat, SUSE and others do is sell service contracts.
[11:27] <g0to> metaspike: this is my /etc/fstab http://pastebin.com/n5XahWvE
[11:27] <dragonslay> iceroot: sorry, mistook
[11:27] <new2linx> i'd say the name of my business but i didn't reserver the name yet. :-)
[11:28] <ahmrahtcheer> but you can download the source code for RH, SUSE, etc., and compile it yourself, thus getting a free copy.
[11:28] <TheLastBaron> !amrahtcheer Ok, then I get it
[11:28] <ahmrahtcheer> new2linux:  nope
[11:28] <Kull>  I have a bunch of .lrf files that I want to open with "ebook-viewer" through nautilus.  When I try to change the default application, I have a lits of applications but       │ biertie
[11:28] <Kull>               | absolutly no visible way to manually enter an application name.  Since the application I want to use isn't in the list, I'm basically stuck with no clue how to fix this      │ blast_hardcheese
[11:28] <new2linx> ahmrahtcheer, so immediately you hear the cd spin up and the screen goes black?
[11:28] <Kull> oops
[11:29] <iceroot> new2linx: but the better idea would be to provide ubuntu as free (as in free beer) and give payed support
[11:29] <new2linx> iceroot, correct sir. :-)
[11:29] <Kull> I have a bunch of .lrf files that I want to open with "ebook-viewer" through nautilus.  When I try to change the default application, I have a list of applications but  absolutely no visible way to manually enter an application name.  Since the application I want to use isn't in the list, I'm basically stuck with no clue how to fix this seemingly trivial thing.   How do I MANUALLY add an application to the
[11:29] <Kull> properties/opens-with list in nautilus?
[11:29] <TheLastBaron> Eehrm.. tried it through root ? (
[11:29] <iceroot> new2linx: or what would be very interesting for us "sell hardware with preinstalled ubuntu"
[11:30] <ahmrahtcheer> new2linux, no, the initial load screen shows up, switches to a screen with a cursor at the top left, then it goes completely dead.  ATI Radeon 6620g graphics, integral in an AMD A8 quad core CPU
[11:30] <metaspike> g0to,    it looks like you need to fsck...   sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo reboot    - make fsck entry and reboot
[11:31] <ahmrahtcheer> i'm also having trouble (in other distros) with the Atheros 9series wireless, but i've got a lead on that, would prefer to implement it in Ubuntu, if possible.
[11:31] <wildc4rd> how do I remove items from the launcher bar? running 11.10 with the non unity Gnome
[11:32] <g0to> metaspike: I just followed this (http://amazingrando.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/changing-permissions-of-a-partition-its-easy/)
[11:32] <g0to> metaspike: and it worked :)
[11:32] <new2linx> iceroot, that's the end goal. i am trying to locate a smaller tech company that already has connection with major hardware vendors. :-)
[11:32] <g0to> metaspike: thanks anyway, Sir ;)
[11:32] <new2linx> lets just say 2012 is a NEW YEAR. lol
[11:33] <ahmrahtcheer> the other distros i've tried are all older kernels (2.6.37 & earlier), and the wireless I have is supposedly supported in 2.6.39 and later.
[11:33] <metaspike> g0to, errors=remount-ro 0 - in your fstab suggests there is a serious error in your parition that needs to be fixed, if you want to follow old tutorials on a whim then go ahead.
[11:33] <new2linx> I have goals and ambitions both personally and professionally. Personal is making the name "ubuntuaddicted" go VIRAL. Check googles new search, www.wdyl.com  and then enter my handle "ubuntuaddicted" w/out the quotes. :)
[11:34] <iceroot> new2linx: good to see someone is working on this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1
[11:34] <TheLastBaron> Has anyone here tried Gentoo ?
[11:35] <new2linx> iceroot, buwahahaaaaaaaaaa
[11:35] <ahmrahtcheer> TheLastBaron, not in several years
[11:35] <iceroot> TheLastBaron: #gentoo
[11:35]  * metaspike Frek Drink!
[11:35]  * TheLastBaron goes brb
[11:36] <ahmrahtcheer> TheLastBaron:  I was...unimpressed with later versions of Gentoo.  Earlier, stage 1 install versions could be made so wicked fast they'd smoke the pixels right off your screen, but later stage 3 versions are slooow.
[11:39] <ahmrahtcheer> TheLastBaron, if you've the time to diddle with a source-based distro, check out Crux Linux.  It's very lightweight, but is an expert's distro.  There's no dependency checking when installing software, so you really, REALLY have to know your linux & be willing to spend 40 or more hours getting it compiled and a WM or DE & basic apps up and running.
[11:39] <ahmrahtcheer> and it blows the doors off any other source-based distro out there.  Arch Linux is derived from it.
[11:40]  * Wonderhoof blows the doors off ahmrahtcheer
[11:40] <ahmrahtcheer> however, i've changed employment & no longer have time to fiddle with tweaking source distros.  Ubuntu's what i prefer these days.
[11:41] <Wonderhoof> hey #ubuntu, i'm wondering if you could help me figure out what hardware to get to set up a wireless network. or at least send me to a channel that can
[11:42] <sinosoidal_> Hi everyone. Can anyone point me a place in the web where I can find the full specification for a debian package appear correctly in the new ubuntu software center?
[11:42] <Kull> sinosoidal_: ask that again, but make sense this time.
[11:43] <iceroot> Kull: what was not clear about that?
[11:43] <Kull> It makes no sense.  It is a run on sentence that makes no sense.
[11:43] <sinosoidal_> Kull: sorry. let me try again! :)
[11:44] <iceroot> Kull: just for you, i guess, for me it is clear what he wants
[11:44] <new2linx> iceroot, check my blog  http://ubuntuaddicted.blogspot.com/  or check my Google+ Ubuntu ubuAddicted  or my youtube channel UbuntuAddicted
[11:44] <new2linx> 2012 will be my year. lol
[11:44] <iceroot> sinosoidal_: the normal specifications can be found in the debhelper-documentation. there are also additional fields which are (imo) ubuntu-specific like "support" and "images"
[11:44] <Kull> "Point me a place" "full specification for a debian package appear correctly"... makes no sense.
[11:44] <new2linx> iceroot, confident, not arrogant. lol
[11:45] <Kull> Maybe you both speak a pidgen English.
[11:45] <sinosoidal_> Kull: I have already a debian package for something i'm building. the questions is. how can I find the specification about image, description, icon, etc is it in the same place as the debian package specification or it has it's own rules?
[11:45] <iceroot> sinosoidal_: own rules because they are ubuntu-specific
[11:45] <sinosoidal_> Kull: i'm not a native english speaker. sorry.
[11:46] <Kull> sinosoidal_: do not apologize, I do not speak your native tongue.
[11:46] <iceroot> sinosoidal_: but they should be found in the debhelper-manpage from ubuntu
[11:47] <iceroot> sinosoidal_: imo debian is not using images yet, maybe have also a look at #ubuntu-devel and #debian (to see the current state)
[11:49] <sinosoidal_> Kull: thank you my kind fellow for your comprehension
[11:49] <new2linx> dang, sorry to ahmrahtcheer. i may have been able to point in the right direction regarding your graphics issue when trying to use livecd of 11.10
[11:49] <hroi> hi
[11:49] <sinosoidal_> iceroot: really thanks for your help
[11:49] <hroi> how do I use top, to bring up the processes that use most memory?
[11:50] <Sidewinder1> sudo top?
[11:50] <hroi> it seems that those processes are not on top right now, maybe just the cpu top are
[11:50] <TheLastBaron> Ehrm.. can't you just check that through the system monitor ?
[11:50] <hroi> TheLastBaron: no sorry on a server
[11:51] <hroi> perhaps there are some specific tools that I can use for running my software, that in the end reports the usage?
[11:52] <TheLastBaron> Please guys excuse me, But I just installed irssi and I'm a tad confused over here, How do you make the "Dedicated answer"/Yellow-answer-thingy now again ? .. Ubottu kinda got lost and slashHelp is only for certain commands, I don't even know what command to use.. not even Google helped me out effeciantly enough
[11:52] <metaspike> sinosoidal_, i often think the best linux answers are given in a commandline form. so try this.   apt-cache show <packagename> for the details of a package, or sudo apt-get install packagesearch   and run packagesearch from terminal to search for packages and get descriptions using the proper debtags method. ultimately, though, you'll never know whats happening between debian and ubuntu unless your a developer or package maintainer or su
[11:52] <Gentoo64> TheLastBaron: irssi is worth joining
[11:53] <TheLastBaron> Thank you Gentoo64 .. How do I answer anyone in private," Adress someone" without making it public ?
[11:54] <Gentoo64>  /query nick
[11:54] <metaspike> TheLastBaron,   /msg someone hey how you doing
[11:55] <VyasKadkol> join #cisco
[11:55] <TheLastBaron> so .. Now that I'm in msg .. how do I leave, because I have not learned about opening more windows yet
[11:55] <TheLastBaron> Hahaha Thanks :D
[11:55] <Sidewinder1> VyasKadkol, You need to preceed with /
[11:56] <VyasKadkol> Sidewinder1:  tnks . . .it was a mistype . . .:P
[11:56] <Sidewinder1> :D
[11:56] <TheLastBaron> I have actually been around some, done some Dolphin-programming and HTML .. But I never really got the kick I needed to finally quit Windows and start using Linux u kow
[11:56] <jiltdil> is 11.10 is now bug free?
[11:56] <TheLastBaron> know*
[11:56] <Gentoo64> TheLastBaron: /window close
[11:56] <Gentoo64> works
[11:56] <metaspike> jiltdil, most certainley, no
[11:57] <dragonslay> no sotware is 100% bug free
[11:57] <szal> jiltdil: there is no such thing as bug-free software (w/ the notable exception of (the original) TeX perhaps)
[11:57] <g_> Hi all, after resuming from suspend on 11.10, the Unity dock on the left is graphically corrupted. It can be fixed by moving the mouse or a window over it, which refreshes the dock graphics. Any ideas how to fix this? Thanks.
[11:57] <sinosoidal_> metaspike: thx. I'll try that! ;)
[11:57] <jiltdil> szal, my mean to say is it working properly like 10.x series
[11:58] <szal> jiltdil: define 'working properly'
[11:58] <jiltdil> szal, stable
[11:59] <g_> Or atleast, is there a way I can run a script as user automatically after resume? Because /etc/pm/sleep.d scripts are executed as root and before the gui stuff is loaded..
[12:00] <metaspike> g_ ... maybe if you refreshed somehow compiz on unsuspend. this is a glitch typically associated with proporeitory drivers?
[12:00] <metaspike> i have a question :) how do I get espeak or mbrola to say everything that comes through a irc client of some kind :)
[12:00] <g_> metaspike, Possibly; I am using the restricted nVidia drivers, but I'm trying to figure out a way to automatically run a script on resume
[12:00] <TheLastBaron> wow.. compiz, I actually did End Process on that one because I thought it was associated with Wine a couple of days ago
[12:01] <g_> Google isn't of much help as it keeps pointing me to /etc/pm/sleep.d ...
[12:01] <g_> Of course, the other option is to run Unity 2D
[12:02] <g_> which I don't mind, but it's actually slower than regular Unity on my PC..
[12:02] <TheLastBaron> How come ?
[12:02] <g_> Possibly my GPU is more powerful than my CPU
[12:02] <TheLastBaron> Have u tried another distro ?
[12:02] <szal> jiltdil: other than the occasional oddity regarding KDE window behaviour, I currently have no issues that I know of w/ 11.10
[12:03] <g_> TheLastBaron, of course it wont affect other distros.. this is a Unity bug..
[12:03] <metaspike> g_, google is becoming less helpful by the day... hmm. if you can find a command that fixes the glitch, theoritcally you coudl have that run everytime you unsuspend. say compiz --replace ... i use pm-utils for such functionality, well documented under "man pm-utils"
[12:03] <g_> or Unity + nVidia bug..
[12:04] <g_> metaspike, thanks, will look into pm-utils
[12:04] <jiltdil> how to install gnome 2 in ubuntu 11.10
[12:05] <g_> jiltdil, you cant; lookup MATE and how to install it in Ubuntu
[12:05] <metaspike> jiltdil, there exists "Mate Desktop" its not in the repos though: http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/install-linux-mint-mate-desktop-in-ubuntu-11-10/
[12:05] <captainjamie> is there a room for developing gtk applications?
[12:06] <metaspike> yet.. it really should be though.. <hello... developers?> :)
[12:07] <jiltdil> Metaspike,g_: thanks a lot
[12:07] <venkatmangudi> jiltdil: you cannot isntall Gnome 2
[12:07] <venkatmangudi> g_:so MATE is good then?
[12:07] <TheLastBaron> no its inherit for the new ubuntureleases ofc
[12:08] <TheLastBaron> But if you dislike gnome 3 you could try other *buntus ..
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> xubuntu smells and feels like gnome2
[12:09] <venkatmangudi> yep, xubuntu is what I have preferred to use
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> you can install xfce4, log off, log into xfce session and use all your gnome apps there
[12:10] <TheLastBaron> Just out of curiosity, is there a command for like, hiding who joins and leaves in irssi ?
[12:10] <pksadiq> /ignore * +parts +quits +joins
[12:10] <TheLastBaron> Thank you :)
[12:10] <venkatmangudi> ActionParsnip: so xfce4 is better than xubuntu?
[12:11] <Sidewinder1> !better
[12:11] <TheLastBaron> I think that just .. installing and using Xubuntu is alot easier
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> venkatmangudi: its the same difference
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> TheLastBaron: here is my config http://paste.ubuntu.com/786733/
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> venkatmangudi: xubuntu is just ubuntu but using xfce and lighter apps than default, you can install just the DE and log into it, you do not have to install xubuntu clean
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> venkatmangudi: what is under the bonnet is identical
[12:14] <venkatmangudi> ActionParsnip: makes sense. Thank you.
[12:14] <ubuntu> HI
[12:14]  * Sidewinder1 Always wanted to say "HI", to ubuntu. :-)
[12:14] <metaspike> kiora
[12:15] <L1nuxRules> xfce atint the best desktop to use if you need to ask those questions though
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> there is no best desktop
[12:15] <metaspike> a maximised terminal is the best desktop imho
[12:15] <L1nuxRules> wasnt saying best as in the best was saying its not user friendly like gnome
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> LinuxRants: I gues but if the look and feel of gnome2 is desired then its not a bad choice :)
[12:16] <ubuntu> what the hell is dis...
[12:16] <L1nuxRules> ActionTurnip maybe
[12:17] <buyung> test
[12:17] <buyung> hello
[12:18] <cooperate145> how can i disable ssh agent at start up pls?
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> !test | buyung
[12:18] <cooperate145> i want to completely disable the ssh agent..
[12:18] <Sidewinder1> buyung, Mornin'.
[12:18] <L1nuxRules> I would say xfce is the best to go for the way the other DE are going though, have never liked kde
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> cooperate145: but do you want it installed?
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> L1nuxRules: I like LXDE personally, no nonsense
[12:19] <cooperate145> not really, but its listening when i check the connections, so i would like it to be disabled..
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> cooperate145: could just uninstall openssh-server and it will be gone
[12:20] <cooperate145> how do i do that :P
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> cooperate145: sudo apt-get --purge remove openssh-server
[12:20] <cooperate145> Package openssh-server is not installed, so not removed
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> L1nuxRules: there are plenty of DEs to go at, more than XFCE, KDE and Gnome
[12:21] <L1nuxRules> Ive never used LXDE but it does look good , on the todo list
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> cooperate145: then there is no SSH server listening
[12:21] <cooperate145> STREAM     LISTENING     7231     /tmp/ssh-HspEkO1423/agent.1423
[12:21] <cooperate145> what is that
[12:22] <L1nuxRules> ActionParsnip yeah Ive usually used tty1 for most things though apart from if a gui is needed :)
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> L1nuxRules: similar, I just use guake
[12:23] <L1nuxRules> guake yeah Ive used that but find yakuake has alot more features
[12:24] <Guest87522> hello
[12:25] <Guest87522> need some help
[12:25] <Sidewinder1> !ask | Guest87522
[12:25]  * venkatmangudi is away: I'm kinda busy. Back soon.
[12:26] <x3no> hello
[12:26] <Guest87522> I am having trouble removing ubuntu 11.10 from my compaq presario cq61 and installing windows xp
[12:26] <L1nuxRules> cooperate145> if you want to disable ssh servive sshd stop then chkconfig sshd off
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> Guest87522: so you want rid of ubuntu? How did you install ubuntu?
[12:27] <L1nuxRules> service*
[12:27] <Guest87522> cd installation, will be sad to see it go but windows has better support for the programmes I run
[12:27] <Myrtti> venkatmangudi: please turn that script off
[12:27] <libnotify> was sshing into my machine remotely yesterday but now i get an error :permission denied(public key)
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> Guest87522: then use the install CD to remove the partitions you made, its part of the XP installation process
[12:28] <x3no> please help, how to set an .xml file as a desktop background in ubuntu 11.10?
[12:28] <L1nuxRules> libnotify you disabled password login?
[12:28] <Guest87522> I don't have the cd with me
[12:28] <libnotify> yes i did
[12:29] <Sidewinder1> Guest87522, Just boot the XP installation CD, once you retrieve it and do as ActionParsnip said..
[12:29] <L1nuxRules> libnotify then your key hasnt been installed on the server or you dont have the key in .ssh/
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> Guest87522: then how do you intend to install XP without the XP CD?
[12:29] <Guest87522> I have the xp installation cd not the ubuntu one. When I boot from the xp cd I just get a black screen
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> libnotify: did you recently reinstall the server?
[12:30] <libnotify> i din't do any reinstall
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> Guest87522: you don't need the ubuntu one, the partitions are standard so the XP CD can remove them
[12:30] <Guest87522> ActionParsnip, when I boot from the xp cd I get nothing but a black screen
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> Guest87522: I suggest you ask in ##windows for taht
[12:31] <L1nuxRules> thats just windows booting lol
[12:31] <Sidewinder1> Heh,.
[12:31] <Guest87522> it stays black for at least 10 minutes, not let it go beyond that yet
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> Guest87522: windows isn't supported here, your windows CD boot issue will be helped in ##windows
[12:32] <L1nuxRules> windows is slow to boot but yea 10 mins, its hung
[12:32] <libnotify> ActionParsnip: what could i double check?
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> libnotify: try renaming ~/.ssh on the client
[12:33] <libnotify> ah... have to travel back then
[12:33] <L1nuxRules> libnotify your locked out unless you added the key to the server....
[12:34] <llutz_> libnotify: use ssh -vvv user@host   to get more verbose errors
[12:35] <L1nuxRules> the public kety that is not your private
[12:35] <Guest87522> how do I stop it from hanging linuxrules?
[12:36] <L1nuxRules> guest87522 Its windows so aint got a clue but a tip dont use windows apart from gaming as its crap
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> libnotify: why travel back, the client is the system you are connecting with, not the one you are connecting to.
[12:36] <Guest87522> It might well be crap for most things but one thing windows trumps ubuntu on is audio
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> Guest87522: i dunno a lot of people are mixing on open source now
[12:37] <Guest87522> not when you have serato
[12:37] <Guest87522> the support just isn't there for it
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> Guest87522: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/italian-rock-band-release-album-recorded-using-ubuntu/
[12:38] <libnotify> http://pastebin.com/FTyCdxkn
[12:38] <L1nuxRules> I know a few music producers , I dont know why but macs do a good jod apparantley wether its because its *nix or the hardware I dont know
[12:39] <L1nuxRules> job*
[12:39] <libnotify> its the hardware
[12:39] <Guest87522> I have made music on ubuntu! my newes souncloud account has tracks made entirely in ubuntu but, some of my hardware is incompatible
[12:40] <libnotify> well nothing i can do other than go to the server physically and do some changes...
[12:41] <L1nuxRules> libnotify no unless you added your public key to the server you wont be able to authenticate using keys
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> libnotify: did the rename help?
[12:41] <libnotify> i am far from the server
[12:41] <Edward2> !sound
[12:41] <lluvia> I'm having problem with ubi-partman https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/527848
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> lluvia: is it fully updated?
[12:42] <L1nuxRules> libnotify speak to your tech support ask them to reanable password logins then upload the public key using scp or whatever
[12:42] <llutz_> libnotify: ls -la ~/.ssh              are there any keys at all?
[12:43] <lluvia> I'm installing a fresh installation
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> lluvia: you can stil upgrade the app
[12:43] <lluvia> there is some kind of text-mode installation that don't use ubi-partman?
[12:43] <lluvia> ActionParsnip: how?
[12:44] <L1nuxRules> llutz he will have the private key (I assume it was generated on that box) but the public wont have been added to the server
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> lluvia: same as an installed system, there is no difference except the OS runs in RAM
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> lluvia: why use Lucid?
[12:44] <tonk> im geting some error on boot befor the comp enter ubuntu somthing with bios forcesomthing annywer i can read log ? it disapears to fast
[12:45] <lluvia> it was the iso I had nearly
[12:45] <milo_> hey, anybody know how i can format my hard drive ntsf? I can't download any software packages on kde and it's acting all buggy. Won't let me partion hard drive
[12:45] <L1nuxRules> Lucid is LTS you want more Debian style but with a diff best thing to use
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> lluvia: gotcha, ko just run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install ubiquity
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> L1nuxRules: it's EOL at the same time as Oneiric...
[12:46] <L1nuxRules> ActionParsnip so all the packages on an LTs are the same as the latest?
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> L1nuxRules: will be slightly different, Oneiric will have later stuff
[12:47] <L1nuxRules> ActionParsnip As I come from Red Hat based I see LTS as CentOs and the latest as Fedora but only ever used LTS
[12:48] <Guest87522> ok guys, you can't directly help with my problem but the windows lot are useless.  anyone any good with gparted?
[12:48] <metaspike> if you want debian style use debian  v_v
[12:48] <L1nuxRules> metaspike true but I did say with a diff
[12:48] <makara> hi. Are there any key bindings in CCSM to move windows between displays, or any plugins to do with displays?
[12:48] <clean> tonk: I think those info had not written to log files
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> Guest87522: sure, you can delete the partitions there as long as they are not mounted
[12:49] <clean> metaspike: aggree :)
[12:49] <clean> Guest87522: what's your problem ?
[12:50] <Guest87522> I have one partition /dev/sda1 it is mounted
[12:50] <Sidewinder1> Guest87522, But even after deletion/repartitioning to NTFS, you may have a 'dead-box', if the Win XP, CD hangs.. :-(
[12:50] <clean> Guest87522: and then ? you want to repartition it ?
[12:51] <L1nuxRules> guest87522 you have to unmount a part before modifying it
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> makara: win+alt+F1|F2 etc
[12:51] <clean> Guest87522: sudo umount /dev/sda1
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> Guest87522: gparted can also unmount partitions if you right click them
[12:52] <clean> GParted is very easy to use
[12:52] <Guest87522> looks like i'm stuck with ubuntu
[12:52] <Guest87522> it won't unmount it
[12:52] <Sidewinder1> I can think of worse things..
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> Guest87522: are you booting to liveCD or liveUSB?
[12:53] <clean> Guest87522: is any process using it ? close them
[12:53] <L1nuxRules> its your booted enviroment thats why use gpated live cd
[12:53] <clean> Guest87522: close GParted first, close all open windows first
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> Guest87522: make sure you are manipulating the right device, not the live usb
[12:53] <clean> Guest87522: and then: sudo umount /dev/sda1
[12:54] <Guest87522> I have gparted installed but not on a cd or usb
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> clean: might not be sda1 ;)
[12:54] <Guest87522> it is
[12:54] <clean> ActionParsnip: he said sda1
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> Guest87522: its part of the standard live environment
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> Guest87522: if you run:  sudo fdisk -l     you will see all partitions, you can now verify your internal drive is /dev/sda
[12:55] <clean> Guest87522: so you have install gparted in your system, not from the live cd ?
[12:55] <L1nuxRules> hes using gpated in the OS not live
[12:55] <Guest87522> installed throuhg software center
[12:55] <clean> Guest87522: paste the result of: mount -l
[12:55] <milo_> Yeah, I've been trying to unmount my hard drive to partition it, nothing doing. I shut down the tasks running in lsof but they just boot up again!
[12:55] <L1nuxRules> gparted*
[12:56] <makara> ActionParsnip: what's meant to happen? those keys weren't assigned
[12:56] <mutante> if new files appear in /etc/update-motd.d/ when are they added to /etc/motd? and how to trigger an update
[12:56] <clean> milo_: mount -l
[12:56] <Sidewinder1> Guest87522, Then why not download ubuntu; md5sum the ISO, prior to burning a Live CD and boot that to repartition your unmounted sda1?
[12:57] <L1nuxRules> mutante motd will display on next login
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> makara: move the active window to desktop 1, 2, 3 etc
[12:57] <solofight> people i wanted to create a rsa key for a different user. currently logged in as root - so created one user, did a su to that user and then hit ssh-keygen -t rsa and created public and private keys And i restarted the ssh. now when i try to login to system with the new username and key putty says no supported authentication methods available. any idea how to debug ?
[12:57] <solofight> people i wanted to create a rsa key for a different user. currently logged in as root - so created one user, did a su to that user and then hit ssh-keygen -t rsa and created public and private keys And i restarted the ssh. now when i try to login to system with the new username and key putty says no supported authentication methods available. any idea how to debug ?
[12:57] <solofight> * added the new key in authorisedkeys of ssh as well
[12:57] <milo_> ok, typed mount -l
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> L1nuxRules: i see
[12:57] <mutante> L1nuxRules: thanks, too easy:)
[12:57] <clean> It's better to repartition your harddisk from live cd, but it's also possilbe without livecd
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> Guest87522: you need the live cd, you cannot format the data used to run the OS, think about it
[12:58] <makara> ActionParsnip: I can move between desktops but not between displays
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> makara: ive not used dual head, sorry
[12:58] <milo_> how do I get liveCD? My vista cd won't do it (xp used to) and my burning software won't work, and muon software center is having problems too. I don't see why people say linux is better. I can never get anything to work.
[12:59] <Sidewinder1> Guest87522, I still think, even after repartitioning you're still going to run into problems if your Win install disk still hangs..
[12:59] <solofight_> people i wanted to create a rsa key for a different user. currently logged in as root - so created one user, did a su to that user and then hit ssh-keygen -t rsa and created public and private keys And i restarted the ssh. now when i try to login to system with the new username and key putty says no supported authentication methods available. any idea how to debug ?
[12:59] <solofight_> * added the new key in authorisedkeys of ssh as well
[12:59] <milo_> THanks Clean, by the way
[12:59] <Dmole> anyone know how to set a GECOS with Irssi?
[12:59] <clean> milo_: my pleasure :)
[12:59] <L1nuxRules> solofight sounds like you havent enabled rsa auth in your sshd
[13:00] <clean> solofight: ssh -vvv
[13:00] <Edward2> Hello. Got a small sound problem. I've just gotten this new computer to install Linux on (Ubuntu 11.10) and trying to get sound from it. So far I have sound from the 6-port card in the back, but how do I get sound from the front port (headphones)?
[13:00] <clean> Edward2: alsamixer
[13:01] <clean> Edward2: to unmute the front port
[13:01] <Edico> hi
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> Edward2: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[13:01] <Edico> what does it mean "Unity" for desktop environment?
[13:02] <Edward2> clean: Everything's unmuted.
[13:02] <Sidewinder1> !unity | Edico
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> Edward2: Unity is a shell, Gnome is still the DE
[13:04] <Edward2> ActionParsnip: It gave alot of text, then tells me it will collect diagnostic info about my ALSA. "Automatically upload ALSA info to alsa-project? [y/N]"
[13:04] <mkanyicy> Edward2, try: 'amixer set Master on; amixer set Headphone on; amixer set Front on'
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> Edward2: select YES and a URL will be made, what is it?
[13:05] <Edward2> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=e279851ae455e3943d95b11a6b5addd815e5b398
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> Edward2: oh jeez, audigy crap is always fun to setup :()
[13:06] <L1nuxRules> does anyone know if gnome 2 is going to continue with back ports? I dont like gnome 3
[13:07] <Edward2> ActionParsnip: That's what it gave me, I enabled "Download Updates During Install", so....
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> L1nuxRules: its dead upstream, there may be forks like 'mate'
[13:08] <Sidewinder1> L1nuxRules, Personally, I just use 10.04, it's supported 'til 2013.
[13:08] <L1nuxRules> ActionParsnip I c
[13:08] <kamilnadeem> Hi
[13:08] <Edward2> mkanyicy: amixer: Invalid command!
[13:08] <giulia27> hello, I have managed to subtitle a video. But my subtitles don't appear as aubergine color. Here is the pastebin of my mencoder.conf : http://pastebin.com/D2E2VyEg Any idea on how can I put my subtitles in aubergine color, please ? Thank you
[13:08] <kamilnadeem> How to format external hd on ubuntu 11.10
[13:09] <makara> hi. for interest its PUT plugin. Put to output will move window into the next display. This is useful for me because Ubuntu very annoyingly remembers which output a window sat in. So if you disconnect your 2nd display you cant open a window that was in it when there were 2 displays
[13:09] <L1nuxRules> sidewinder1 yeah good point but I do mix my distros from time to time
[13:09] <mkanyicy> Edward: type 'type amixer'
[13:09] <mkanyicy> Edward2: type 'type amixer'
[13:09] <kamilnadeem> I did it with disk utility using ext4 but I am unable to make folders . Also checking properties it say I don't hav ethe permission
[13:09] <kamilnadeem> ActionParsnip: Hi
[13:10] <Edward2> mkanyicy: amixer is /usr/bin/amixer
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> Edward2: there is a firmware file or two I believe you need
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> kamilnadeem: howdy
[13:10] <kamilnadeem> I have a transcend 640gb external hd
[13:10] <Sidewinder1> L1nuxRules, About the only downside, for me is that I can't answer kamilnadeem question, above. In 10.04 it's easy.. :-(
[13:11] <yogg> Hi
[13:11] <yogg> I try to share an bluray over NFS. But it does not work. Ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS  ->  "exportfs -ra" gives me "exportfs: Warning: /mnt/bluray does not support NFS export.".
[13:11] <yogg> Has someone an idea what i make wrong?
[13:11] <mkanyicy> Edward2: now type this and paste the url: 'amixer | pastebinit'
[13:11] <FloodBot1> yogg: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:11] <L1nuxRules> kamilnadeem your trying to create dirs above your permissions with you login you mcan only create within your home dir you will need to use sudo for creating anywhere else
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> Edward2: may help https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+question/122284
[13:11] <Sidewinder1> L1nuxRules, Probably is just as easy in 11.10, just that I don't know the proper steps..
[13:12] <Sidewinder1> yogg, 8.04 is EOL.
[13:12] <Sidewinder1> !eol | yogg
[13:12] <kamilnadeem> L1nuxRules: I formated the external hd in gparted then made a 400gb ext4 part ,
[13:13] <kamilnadeem> L1nuxRules: how do I format it so that I am able to write to it ?
[13:13] <yogg> Sidewinder1: "http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu" says ubuntu server -> April 2013
[13:13] <yogg> is this wrong?
[13:13] <llutz_> !permissions | kamilnadeem: then chown/chmod it to your needs
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> yogg: wikipedia isn't reliable
[13:14] <L1nuxRules> kamilnadeem what file system ou want?
[13:14] <milo_> Linux, I've never prayed to you before. Please help me be glorious in my quest to partition this stupid hard drive, and if you do not want to help me, then to HELL with you!
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> yogg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[13:14] <Sidewinder1> yogg, Oh, OH, you meant 10.04, not 8.04 as you originally stated. Sorry, as an aside, I'm on 10.04, as well :D
[13:14] <Sidewinder1> Server! Duh to me..
[13:15] <milo_> (imagine Arnold from Conan the Barbarian)
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> milo_: what is the use of the drive?
[13:15] <milo_> Use of the drive?
[13:15] <L1nuxRules> Like Linux has any issues with partitioning
[13:15] <kamilnadeem> I want to have 2 partitions on it. the 400gb one for Linux and the rest in fat32 just in case I need to connect to some windows(I don't use it).
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> milo_: yes, what is it being partitioned to store?
[13:15] <L1nuxRules> end user > /dev/null
[13:15] <milo_> I just want to dual boot. What's on there now? Couldn't tell you. Not that savy.
[13:15] <szal> hm, what was the cmd again to list files in a DEB package?
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> kamilnadeem: use ntfs instead of fat32. Ntfs is not robust and 4Gb file limit is a bit annoying
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> milo_: are you going to blank the drive and install a dual boot system?
[13:16] <szal> ActionParsnip: NTFS is _not_ robust?
[13:16] <yogg> Sidewinder1: no its ubuntu 8.04.04 server
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> szal: its MORE robust than fat32
[13:16] <milo_> I've been trying to get a live cd or usb going. My burner isn't working now...
[13:16] <kamilnadeem> ActionParsnip: Thanks. But should I use disk utility then which partition scheme. MBR or GUID
[13:17] <milo_> so can't make a cd
[13:17] <milo_> trying to make a usb
[13:17] <yogg> ActionParsnip: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases    does only show the desktop version of 8.04 but nothing about the server version
[13:17] <Wiz_KeeD> can someone please tell me what could have cause the dissapearance of highlighting in the console? using ubuntu 10.4
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> yogg: Ubuntu 8.04.3 LTS
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> Changes
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> July 16, 2009
[13:17] <Sidewinder1> yogg, Just got the 'server' part; sorry, trying to scan too many things.. :-(
[13:17] <Wiz_KeeD> the folders, executables and such are all in white
[13:17] <Wiz_KeeD> there is no more distinction
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> yogg: EOL April 2013 (server)
[13:18] <deus_> hi any1 here ?
[13:18] <hypeBoy> hello i have this EVDO mobile internet .. i can connect easily but to recharge i need to dial a number from my pc .. is there any dialler (app) on ubuntu
[13:18] <yogg> ActionParsnip: ahh sorry there is the line ^^   Ubuntu 8.04.2 LTS  April 2013 (Server)
[13:18] <helo1> Hello!
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> kamilnadeem: if you intend to share with windows then format the partition to NTFS within a windows OS
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> yogg: ;)
[13:18] <d3ngar> Hi there
[13:18] <makara> kamilnadeem: install samba
[13:18] <VCoolio> Wiz_KeeD: was something added in .bashrc concerning LS_COLORS? what does 'dircolors' say?
[13:18] <d3ngar> I was wondering how to access gwibber and empathy from gnome-shell?
[13:18] <deus_> how can i change channel ?
[13:18] <Sidewinder1> deus_, Only about 1442, here. :-)
[13:19] <deus_> lol
[13:19] <VCoolio> Wiz_KeeD: or changed color preferences in your terminal?
[13:19] <helo1> I'm looking for help with an NFS server based on Ubuntu 10.04.3 Server
[13:19] <deus_> never tried IRC b4
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> deus_: /join #channelname
[13:19] <deus_> ty
[13:19] <Wiz_KeeD> i might have by mistake...idk
[13:19] <deus_> ok, how2 list channels ?
[13:19] <kamilnadeem> I don't have a windows os but just in case someone needs some data from me I will connect to his system and the ntfs partition should be picked
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> !alis
[13:19] <hypeBoy> deus_: /list
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> yeah thats it
[13:19] <deus_> ty
[13:21] <makara> kamilnadeem: it depends on the service. he should never see that deep into your PC
[13:21] <Edward2> mkanyicy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/786788/
[13:21] <yogg> ActionParsnip: ok now i am confused.   is my "Ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS"   EOL?  It was installed from an ubuntu server cd "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases" only talkes about "Ubuntu 8.04.2 LTS"
[13:21] <helo1> 8.xx is out of support
[13:21] <makara> there are many ways of sharing. Samba is the common one. you can also setup an FTP service on your box with vsftp
[13:22] <Wiz_KeeD> VCoolio, it looks to be enabled...
[13:22] <Wiz_KeeD> :(
[13:22] <helo1> LTS releases are supported for 3 years
[13:22] <Sidewinder1> yogg, No, ubuntu Server, 8.04 IS supported 'til 2013.
[13:22] <kamilnadeem> makara: I want to format the external hd , so I am following this method. Gparted>create 400gb ext4 part for now
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> yogg: the server LTS releases are supported 5 years
[13:22] <KNRO> How do you make packages from outside universe available to packages being built by launchpad build system?
[13:22] <makara> kamilnadeem: external! sorry
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> yogg: the sub-release value is fairly worthless, you'll just have more to update
[13:23] <yogg> Sidewinder1: ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[13:23] <kamilnadeem> makara: the thing is I am not able to write to it
[13:23] <d3ngar> Hi, any idea how to access empathy from gnome-shell? It seems it's hidden from the system tray?
[13:23] <Sidewinder1> yogg, NP.
[13:23] <makara> kamilnadeem: what the error?
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> d3ngar: you can edit the tray rules to allow more icons
[13:23] <makara> is it still mounted?
[13:24] <d3ngar> ActionParsnip: (awesome name!) how though?
[13:24] <Edico> what is the name of the package for kdevelop?
[13:24] <Edico> I can't find it
[13:24] <yogg> then back to my first question ^^       i try to share a bluray out of ubuntu 8.04.04 (server) with nfs, but nfs gives me "exportfs: Warning: /mnt/bluray does not support NFS export."
[13:24] <helo1> Can anyone in here help me with an NFS issue (Ubuntu 10.04.3)?
[13:24] <kamilnadeem> makara: no error, only that I am not able to paste files onto it or create folders in it
[13:25] <Sidewinder1> kamilnadeem, Try typing, in terminal: sudo chown -R uesername:username /exthddUUID
[13:25] <L1nuxRules> edico dont know for sure as not used kde in years but could be kde-devel
[13:25] <clean> try apt-cache search kdevelop
[13:25] <clean> Edico: try apt-cache search kdevelop
[13:25] <szal> helo1: do we know the issue yet?
[13:26] <helo1> No, I'm not sure where to start looking to troubleshoot
[13:26] <kamilnadeem> Sidewinder1: chown: cannot access `/exthddUUID': No such file or directory
[13:26] <retrorex> hi
[13:26] <helo1> The NFS share is mounted on a Mac OSX machine. Appears fine, but disconnects during transfers to the NFS
[13:26] <metaspike> KNRO, that depends... assuming standard make scenario..   ./configure && make && dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot - else   cmake . && make && dpkg-buildpackage   or less satisfactorily - ./configure && make && fakeroot checkinstall make install
[13:27] <Edward2> ActionParsnip: The link you gave me didn't help much. Everything is unmuted.
[13:27] <mkanyicy> Edward2, try 'amixer set Master on; amixer set Line on'
[13:27] <retrorex> Anybody knows the package /how to get audacious - alternative that looks like foobar without frills (ie without winamp skin) ,Looks like a editor
[13:27] <Sidewinder1> kamilnadeem, "exthddUUID is the UUID of the external drive; you'll have to supply that value; each hard drive will have it's own unique UUID.
[13:27] <L1nuxRules> test
[13:28] <Edward2> mkanyicy: amixer: Invalid command!
[13:28] <mkanyicy> Edward2, try 'amixer set Master on; amixer set Line on; amixer set Front on'
[13:28] <L1nuxRules> */*exthddUUID probably doesent exist is it in rootfs?
[13:28] <metaspike> KNRO, either way a .deb is produced, which is installed with - dpkg -i mynewdeb.db
[13:28] <kamilnadeem> ALso why isn't it not happening like out of the gate. O.o not happy with such hassle in tryibg to backup
[13:28] <meng_> nimenhao
[13:28] <metaspike> dpkg -i mynewdeb.deb*
[13:29] <L1nuxRules> why you putting a wild card at the end of a package installl
[13:29] <retrorex> I guess no answer
[13:29] <makara> kamilnadeem: if windows doesn't support ext4 then just make it FAT. Can't blame linux for that
[13:29] <pksadiq> Edward2: did you try changing the output at sound preferences? (right clicking the sound at panel)
[13:29] <milo_> Ok, the boot usb didn't work. It just started Kubuntu up!
[13:29] <metaspike> it was a amendment to my previous typo v-v
[13:30] <milo_> Man, linux makes me want to smash my computer
[13:30] <meng_> what ?
[13:30] <Sidewinder1> kamilnadeem, Please see here for further instructions to accomplish: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1029982.html
[13:30] <kamilnadeem> makara: WHat are you saying Man. This is not about windows or anything
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> kamilnadeem: ext4 defs are open and available. Microsoft are ignormant and will not or have not made ext4 access in their OS
[13:30] <L1nuxRules> windows dont support file systems other than there own without 3rd part tools
[13:30] <meng_> what is else?
[13:30] <kamilnadeem> I want to make backup , as simple as that for using with linux distros
[13:31] <amdhome1> hi all i look for some help( cant erase dvd - rw on ubuntu in terminal neiter does brasero work can someone help?
[13:31] <kamilnadeem> that is it
[13:31] <kamilnadeem> why I am not able to paste content in it
[13:31] <L1nuxRules> kamilnadeem man rsync
[13:31] <kamilnadeem> why I am not able to create folders in it
[13:31] <amdhome1> cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrom blank=fast wont work either for dvd (cd-rw) works fine
[13:31] <llutz_> !permissions | kamilnadeem
[13:31] <clean> amdhome1: sudo ?
[13:32] <amdhome1> no effect tried clean
[13:32] <leah> Question:  I created a drive on my computer and filled it with ubuntu installion software, how do i get my computer to boot from this new partician
[13:32] <Edward2> pksadiq: Right Click "speaker icon" in top-right, get volume, Banshee, Sound settings.
[13:32] <ComradeHaz`> Hi all. Any chance of some assistance getting gui working. On a Vaio machine, starting gdm(?) hangs with just a cursor (which moves).
[13:32] <pksadiq> Edward2: ?
[13:32] <metaspike> amdhome1, use wodim -   sudo wodmin -format
[13:33] <metaspike> *amdhome1, use wodim -   sudo wodim -format
[13:33] <makara> kamilnadeem: could be any number of things. You need to go step by step with someone - best done in terminal
[13:33] <kamilnadeem> llutz_: is not their a GUI way
[13:33] <Edward2> pksadiq: Ubuntu 11.10, gnome desktop completely different (from 10.04).
[13:33] <clean> AdmV0rl0n: $ ls -l $(which cdrecord)
[13:33] <llutz_> kamilnadeem: you need to understand how permission/ownership work, theres no need for a GUI to learn this
[13:33] <amdhome1> ok i tried that too meraspike wut it says file wodim not found
[13:33] <clean> amdhome1: $ ls -l $(which cdrecord)
[13:34] <kamilnadeem> Thanks Guys . I will read it then .
[13:34] <Edward2> pksadiq: Large icons to the left, envelope, arrows, speaker, time, username, and gear icons on the top-right.
[13:34] <makara> kamilnadeem: terminal is definite. easier to relate to the other person. You could always run teamviewer and let them fiddle remotely.
[13:34] <metaspike> amdhome1, sudo apt-get install wodim
[13:34] <pksadiq> Edward2: oh, may be sound settings,> output tab and select the output
[13:35] <metaspike> amdhome1, if it's not found, thats because you dont have it
[13:35] <amdhome1> already the new version metaspike
[13:35] <metaspike> or it doesn't exist :)
[13:35] <amdhome1> ill try root Metaspikr
[13:35] <helo1> Can anyone in here help troubleshoot an NFS issue? (Connection drops during transfer)
[13:36] <Edward2> pksadiq: Only device: SB Audigy Analog Stereo. Connector: Analog Output / Amplifier or Analog Output / No Amplifier
[13:36] <metaspike> yeah... sudo wodim -format   ( format cdrom device with wodim)
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> d3ngar: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html   shows how to tweak the panel to show [all] items
[13:36] <pksadiq> Edward2: try whether any one works
[13:36] <L1nuxRules> helo1 if its dropping during transfer probabbly network related and what should be ruled out first
[13:36] <metaspike> helo1, it's probably due to to a permission failure.
[13:37] <metaspike> :) either or.
[13:37] <helo1> L1nuxRules: The machine it is dropping from is plugged into the same switch as the server, and the only other port on the switch being used is the uplink.
[13:37] <froes_> hi .. do anyone knows any upnp server that can transcode to xbox360 on the fly ?
[13:37] <metaspike> i honestly think ftp is eaiser, although redundant
[13:37] <d3ngar> ActionParsnip: Thanks a mil
[13:37] <Sidewinder1> Is there a 'flag' in the fdisk command to list UUIDs along with disk names?
[13:38] <shomon> hi, how do I get skype working? I can hear but can't figure out the microphone
[13:38] <helo1> metaspike: The NFS works fine some of the time; does that still make sense, and how can I check?
[13:38] <llutz_> Sidewinder1: since fdisk cannot handle filesystems, no
[13:38] <shomon> levels seem fine and not muted on alsamixer
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> shomon: is it muted in alsamixer ?
[13:38] <shomon> no
[13:38] <metaspike> helo1, it makes no sense at all! i either use ssh or ftp, and they work flawlessly for me
[13:38] <shomon> ActionParsnip, but I'm getting a connection refused error when running it in the terminal
[13:39] <Edward2> pksadiq: Both work on rear, but not front.
[13:39] <clean> Sidewinder1: ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[13:39] <L1nuxRules> helo1 ok pretty much resolves network connectivity then have you set time outs on Im assuming your using rsync?
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> shomon: try the deb from the skype site
[13:39] <Sidewinder1> llutz, Not really what I wanted to hear; but many thanks anyway..
[13:39] <paul> Why is Xfce broken? No window manager.
[13:40] <shomon> ok trying that thanks ActionParsnip
[13:40] <retrorex_> ok here is the question again : How do you install audacious gtkui (simple audacious) in ubuntu ..Have tried apt-get
[13:40] <amdhome1> wodim: media format asked
[13:40] <amdhome1> Error: disk already formated, ignoring.
[13:40] <amdhome1> wodim: Cannot format disk, aborting. metaspike
[13:40] <clean> Sidewinder1: because there's no such flag
[13:41] <metaspike> amdhome1, it speaks for itself
[13:41] <Sidewinder1> clean, EXACTLY What I was lookin' for; mega-thanx! Now I gotta write it down.
[13:41] <amdhome1> i dont want to format it i like to erase the disc metaspike
[13:41] <clean> Sidewinder1: congratulations :)
[13:41] <L1nuxRules> amdhome1 sounds like the part wasnt cleanly unmountewd on windows the only fix I personally know for that is remounting and windows and unmounting
[13:41] <helo1> L1nuxRules: I have not set time outs. How do I do this, and what would you suggest I set them to? I am not using rsync. The NFS server is an Ubuntu 10.04.3 Server install sharing out a 6TiB RAID to the network as central storage.
[13:42] <clean> L1nuxRules: maybe
[13:42] <NimeshNeema> how to determine my lan card's mac address
[13:42] <metaspike> paul, im not sure.    gedit ~/.xsession  - in terminal then ensure -  xfce4-session  - is the only thing in there, that should force xfce4 initialisation
[13:42] <llutz_> NimeshNeema: ifconfig
[13:42] <amdhome1> LinuxRules i dont use windows :D
[13:42] <NimeshNeema> llutz_: thanks
[13:42] <dragonslay> !ifconfig
[13:43] <oneliner> ActionParsnip: 1) dont know if i got to thank you yesterday for the Xorg edgers ppa, 2)are you aware if there is an "Ethernet Edgers" ppa somewhere? :)
[13:43] <oneliner> apparently the Ethernet i have has a  bug
[13:43] <paul> Okay I'll try that. I can't get any of my google ideas to work.
[13:44] <hozeHoze1> hi all, im trying to allow all users to be able to mount the cdrom on ubuntu server 10.04, im getting "mount: only root can do that" , in fstab: /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 iso9660 defaults,noauto,ro,user 0 0 . command used for mounting: mount /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 . any ideas? thanks
[13:44] <L1nuxRules> helo1 if you havent set timeouts default wouldnt fail so its not because of that
[13:44] <L1nuxRules> well probbably not*
[13:44] <hypeBoy> hi, i have evdo mobile broadband, how can i dial numbers. I got the internet to work but i need to CALL to recharge my net account.
[13:44] <helo1> Okay.
[13:45] <dragonslay> hozehoze1: add permissions in /etc/sudoers and allow mount for all
[13:45] <metaspike> NimeshNeema, sudo ifconfig eth0 | grep -o -E '([[:xdigit:]]{1,2}:){5}[[:xdigit:]]{1,2}'
[13:46] <NimeshNeema> metaspike: can't understand what does the string after grep does ?
[13:46] <L1nuxRules> it searches for that string
[13:47] <retrorex_> NimeshNeema | its called a pipe ...(right above enter key)
[13:47] <helo1> L1nuxRules: Any other ideas?
[13:47] <hozeHoze1> dragonslay: that will allow all users to mount whatever they want
[13:47] <amdhome1> metaspike i tried blank=fast,all and,session notheing seems to work :D
[13:47] <metaspike> i doubt it's the best way...
[13:47] <NimeshNeema> L1nuxRules: and how to list all the hardware devices connected to system ?
[13:47] <retrorex_> Neema:lspci I think
[13:47] <DemonWitch> how can install all package that follow gtk-engines-* format?
[13:47] <ManDay> Is there any program that can search for a string contained in the content of documents?
[13:47] <NimeshNeema> retrorex_: yups :-)
[13:47] <pksadiq> ManDay: grep
[13:47] <ManDay> And by content I mean not just ASCII plain text
[13:48] <ManDay> pksadiq: ^ such as OpenOffice or Word documents
[13:48] <L1nuxRules> nimeshneema lspci and grep mostly depends on the hard ware
[13:49] <pksadiq> ManDay: I just heard of odfgrep or grepodf, I don't know whether it exists or not somewhere on net
[13:50] <amdhome1> does someone knows an other command to erase(wipe) a dvd without wodim ?
[13:50] <ManDay> I keep telling ordinary they should give Linux (and specifically Ubuntu) a try. And I must admit they do have a point in alleging that Linux is not suited for the average user if a task such as searching for content is not adequately covered - pretty much the thing computers were invented for in the first place.
[13:50] <hypeBoy> i need a dialer for EVDO modile broadband. i can connect to internet but i want to make phone CALLS!
[13:50] <hypeBoy> any one please help me
[13:50] <ManDay> ordinary users, that is.
[13:50] <karol_> hi
[13:50] <amdhome1> hi karol_
[13:51] <dragonslay> ManDay: beagle can search within documents
[13:51] <hypeBoy> i am using ubuntu 11.10
[13:51] <karol_> ive got a problem with grub
[13:51] <L1nuxRules> Linux is not for noobs but windows isnt really they still have technical issues they have to get support for so whats the diff really?
[13:51] <amdhome1> i see karol_ what does it say ?
[13:51] <karol_> its showing only windows os
[13:51] <ManDay> dragonslay: Sounds good! I have a look
[13:51] <metaspike> amdhome1,  wodim is a proper way to format a cdrom.
[13:51] <metaspike> cd*
[13:52] <ManDay> dragonslay: Looks very nice. Thanks
[13:52] <amdhome1> oh then you forgot to install grub i think while installing ubuntu karol_
[13:52] <karol_> no
[13:52] <metaspike> L1nuxRules, the difference is distrobution, implimentation and licencing...
[13:52] <karol_> i had some problems with windows and after that ive reinstalled grub
[13:52] <llutz_> amdhome1: dvd+rw-format
[13:52] <forgotten> is there any major reason why you would customize ur kernel using apt-get / fakeroot  instead of just building from source package from kernel.org ?
[13:52] <hypeBoy> help me i need a dialer so i can make calls on ubuntu . i am using EVDO mobile usb
[13:52] <L1nuxRules> metaspike obviously I was talking at technical lvl
[13:53] <karol_> i can boot ubuntu from grub command line, but its not user friendly :)
[13:53] <hypeBoy> PLZZ some1 :(
[13:53] <fdlufei> I cannot use bluetooth to browse  files on other devices,how can i fix it?
[13:53] <L1nuxRules> I work in 3rd line support my user friendly means a dumb ass can use it
[13:53] <amdhome1> did u set the bios boot on hardisc karol_
[13:54] <fdlufei> i use Ubuntu 11.10 and installed newest packages
[13:54] <karol_> ive tried grub-mkconfig, and in /boot/grub/grub.cfg ive got a lot menu entries but grub is showing onlu linux
[13:54] <metaspike> L1nuxRules, 'nuff said.
[13:54] <forgotten> is there any major reason why you would customize ur kernel using apt-get / fakeroot  instead of just building from source package from kernel.org ?
[13:54] <amdhome1> then u didnt install ubuntu alongside then u whiped whole windows iḿ afraid karol_
[13:54] <karol_> pc is booting from appropriate hdd
[13:55] <metaspike> karol_, and it's missing a linux parition?
[13:55] <karol_> no
[13:55] <Sidewinder1> karol_, Have you tried sudo update-grub
[13:55] <metaspike> karol_, or a windows installation?
[13:55] <karol_> all partitions are ok
[13:55] <karol_> except /boot
[13:55] <L1nuxRules> forgotten if you want to customize your kernel do it from source
[13:55] <karol_> no i didnt try update-grub
[13:56] <amdhome1> u can add a /boot partition karol_ if u left space
[13:56] <metaspike> forgotten, there's no difference, all fakeroot does is emulate a root enviroment so that root processe' dont mess with the root system itself.
[13:56] <forgotten> L1nuxRules: just make menuconfig .. yada yada?   nothing special for ubuntu
[13:56] <Sidewinder1> karol_, It's worth a shot. ;-)
[13:56] <forgotten> metaspike: k cool :) tyvm
[13:56] <karol_> ive got /boot on separate partition already
[13:56] <forgotten> L1nuxRules: ty too.
[13:56] <hozeHoze1> im trying to allow all users to be able to mount the cdrom on ubuntu server 10.04, im getting "mount: only root can do that" , in fstab: /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 iso9660 defaults,noauto,ro,user 0 0 . command used for mounting: mount /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 . any ideas? thanks
[13:56] <karol_> but update-grub2 is generating grub.cfg
[13:57] <ManDay> dragonslay: Beagle appears to be no longer maintained, though
[13:57] <Sidewinder1> karol_, Don't forget the 'sudo'.
[13:57] <L1nuxRules> hozehozel you will need to add the users to sudo
[13:57] <mkanyicy> hozeHoze1, the noauto
[13:57] <mkanyicy> hozeHoze1, remove the noauto from the list
[13:57] <karol_> ive got grub.cfg from grub-mkconfig... and there are menu entries from linux, but grub is not showing them
[13:57] <metaspike> hozeHoze1, yeah, change noauto to auto
[13:57] <amdhome1> if u dont have a sudo password set u can do so by sudo passwrd root
[13:57] <dragonslay> ManDay: but it is good enough than other search programs.. hoping that someone might continue.
[13:57] <Edward2> New problem! When I click on Sound Settings, I can't get the Input selection to stay on Microphone 1.
[13:57] <mkanyicy> hozeHoze1, just like what metaspike is suggesting
[13:58] <dragonslay> ManDay: if you want maintained program, then try tracker
[13:58] <ManDay> what about google desktop?
[13:58] <owenll>  fdlufei: you have managed to pair the two devices successfully?
[13:58] <hozeHoze1> auto means mount on boot, but its a cdrom and it wont mount if there is no cd inside
[13:58] <karol_> ok i try to reboot after update-grub
[13:58] <Sidewinder1> karol_, Have you had a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2  ?
[13:58] <dragonslay> ManDay: its not FOSS ;)
[13:58] <ManDay> indeed.
[13:59] <L1nuxRules> hozehoze1 its nothing to do with fstab just your privs that prevent it
[13:59] <dragonslay> !who
[13:59] <ManDay> but sometimes, you have to make friends with the devil dragonslay
[13:59] <fdlufei> yes, i have paired them.
[13:59] <karol_> yes, but just for "how to reinstall grub"
[13:59] <L1nuxRules> hozehoze1 you need root or sudo privs to mount anything
[13:59] <Sidewinder1> Better the devil 'ya knoe.
[13:59] <hozeHoze1> L1nuxRules: the user that i'm trying to mount with is a sudoer
[13:59] <Sidewinder1> know, even.
[13:59] <L1nuxRules> ah ok
[13:59] <karol_> ill try to reboot now, and ill be back in a few minutes
[13:59] <dragonslay> ManDay: :) beagle has more features as of now
[14:01] <root> lklk
[14:02] <L1nuxRules> hozehoze1 what was the error msg u got?
[14:03] <hozeHoze1> hoze@localserv:/media$ mount /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 |  mount: only root can do that | hoze@localserv:/media$ sudo mount /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0  |  mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[14:03] <owenll> fdlufei: Have you looked at settings of "personal file sharing" from dash?
[14:03] <hozeHoze1> with sudo i can mount it, but i need all users to be able to mount the cdrom
[14:03] <ManDay> dragonslay: okay ty agan
[14:03] <ManDay> again
[14:03] <hozeHoze1> im trying to share the cdrom via samba
[14:04] <L1nuxRules> hozehoze1 your not a sudoer or your sudo access hasnt been setup right. you should try the full path to mount though as it might not be in your path
[14:04] <fdlufei> owenll: maybe the bluetooth use the command line: "nautilus --browser obex://[]/", but i found the nautilus have no the --browser parameter.
[14:05] <L1nuxRules> if that doesent work your sudo hasnt been setup with the needed privs
[14:05] <hozeHoze1> L1nuxRules: the current user is the only user on that computer, its the user that has been created with the install of the os
[14:06] <fdlufei> I want to browse other device files, should I set the personal file sharing preferences?
[14:06] <owenll> fdlufei: Under Personal File Sharing preferences there is an option to enable sharing files over bluetooth
[14:06] <carera> good afternoon lads
[14:07] <L1nuxRules> hozehoze1 ok this is ubuntu Im other distro user learning ubuntu so as I have in the past been told not to advise I wont advise to create a root login there is a sudo switch that will give you root though the ubuntu boys can help with that
[14:08] <dragonslay> hozehoze1: giving access to /dev/cdrom would work?
[14:09] <hozeHoze1> L1nuxRules: fstab is suppose to do the thing i need , allow all users to mount the cdrom, but for some reason its not doing that :)
[14:09] <forgotten> why can't u just set a password on root and then su to it.. 1 time password.
[14:09] <forgotten> thats what i do
[14:09] <karol_> damn, im back
[14:09] <L1nuxRules> hozehoze1 you need root to modify fstab though
[14:09] <karol_> unfortunately nothing changed
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> forgotten: its not necessary or supported
[14:10] <karol_> i had to write about 6-7 commands in grub command line to run linux
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> forgotten: just use:  sudo -i   and you will get a root console
[14:10] <forgotten> what do u mean not supported?
[14:10] <hozeHoze1> i am modifying fstab, thats not a problem, the problem is that fstab is ignoring me :)
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> forgotten: we don't support setting a root password here
[14:10] <forgotten> oh here
[14:10] <metaspike> karol_,  sudo grub-install /dev/sda    ( reinstall grub to sda, for example)
[14:10] <dragonslay> hozehoze1 : user settings under administration
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> forgotten: you can use: sudo -i   and get the same thing, so why bother
[14:10] <VCoolio>  /query ubottu
[14:10] <VCoolio>  /query ubottu
[14:11] <hozeHoze1> dragonslay: what do you mean ? i am trying to give access to /dev/cdrom, when user access the samba shared cdrom
[14:11] <karol_> it will be grub2? ;) with that preety menu where i can choose OS?
[14:11] <metaspike> hozeHoze1, cat /etc/fstab | pastebinit   -   lets have a look
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> karol_: yes
[14:11] <karol_> and i dont have to remove old grub before installing?
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> karol_: I suggest you do, just for neatness
[14:12] <Gandofor> hi there - trying to get an ipod nano red 16gb (mc699) to sync some music from ubuntu. GTKpod does not acccept the iPod at all, Banshee and gnupod-tools copy over music but the ipod is not recognizing any of the music (guess the DB is not built correctly). Any further ideas?
[14:12] <karol_> just like i tought
[14:12] <metaspike> Gandofor, mount it first... sudo mkidr /media/ipod && sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/ipod   (for example)
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> Gandofor: rhythmnbox
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> !info ifuse | Gandofor may also help
[14:13] <metaspike> *sudo mkdir /media/ipod && sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/ipod   (for example)
[14:13] <hozeHoze1> metaspike: http://pastebin.com/dSJ5RG4H
[14:13] <L1nuxRules> grub 2 buts still grum 1.98 (not exact I know)
[14:13] <Gandofor> thanks, metaspike & ActionParsnip, will try
[14:13] <karol_> i can uninstall it using "how to" from help.ubuntu.com/community/grub2#uninstalling_grub_2 ?
[14:13] <L1nuxRules> << drunk
[14:14] <hozeHoze1> metaspike: i tried iso9660 instead of auto also
[14:16] <metaspike> hozeHoze1, and you cannot mount? here's my fstab cdrom fyi: /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[14:16] <mkanyicy> hozeHoze1, why did you add this cdrom entry in fstab in this fstab file in the first place?
[14:17] <Guest82188> what
[14:17] <hozeHoze1> metaspike: im getting only root can mount
[14:17] <hozeHoze1> mkanyicy: i'm trying to add the cdrom on samba share
[14:18] <hozeHoze1> do i need to restart anything to apply the fstab changes?
[14:18] <Guest82188> who changed my name
[14:18] <mkanyicy> hozeHoze1, what do you do in order to get that error message 'only root can mount'
[14:18] <Gandofor> ActionParsnip: Rhythmbox says the same as gtkpod: (rhythmbox:4304): Rhythmbox-WARNING **: Could not write database to iPod: Unsupported checksum type
[14:18] <karol_> ok, ive purged grub-pc and reinstalled it
[14:18] <karol_> reboot now
[14:18] <L1nuxRules> hozehoze1 nfs if anything
[14:18] <metaspike> karo
[14:19] <metaspike> pfft. reboot at peril >_<
[14:19] <Gandofor> Guess that's Apple's nice way of saying fsck ubuntu?
[14:19] <hozeHoze1> mkanyicy: i added the chare in smb.conf , i saw that nothing was showing up in the share when opene with smb://... i check if the cdrom is mount, it wasnt, i checked the samba log i saw that message
[14:19] <metaspike> Gandofor, can you mount the ipod manually?
[14:20] <Gandofor> metaspike: yes
[14:20] <metaspike> gtkpod?
[14:20] <fdlufei> owenll: I have enable sharing files over bluetooth, but I still can not browse the phone files. when I click the browse files button, the Connection on and close Automatically later. How can I view the log ?
[14:20] <Gandofor> metaspike: /dev/sdb1 on /media/IPOD type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,showexec,flush,uhelper=udisks)
[14:20] <compdoc> hozeHoze1, you need to mount it before sharing it. What I dont know is what happens when you insert a new cd into the drive - I dont know if samba will automaticallly share it to.
[14:21] <compdoc> too
[14:21] <Gandofor> metaspike: says that it can't find the needed directory structure. After trying to create it, it gives a checksum error
[14:21] <hozeHoze1> in smb.conf i have    preexec = /bin/mount /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0  and  postexec = /bin/umount /media/cdrom0
[14:21] <metaspike> what was that output from:
[14:22] <retrorex_> hi is it possible to merge swap with ext4 on installation
[14:22] <mkanyicy> hozeHoze1, as which user will that command run as?
[14:22] <mkanyicy> hozeHoze1, that user should be added to the cdrom group
[14:22] <metaspike> retrorex_, it is possible to use a swap file as apposed to a swap parition, but its not well supported
[14:22] <hozeHoze1> well smbd is ran as root, i guess that will be executed as root
[14:23] <mkanyicy> hozeHoze1, but the error message does not say the same thing
[14:23] <metaspike> Gandofor, I've used gtkpod before for ipod, all I had to do was plugin ipod, mount it with "mount /dev/ blah blah" and run   sudo gtkpod  (because i couldnt be bothered with permissions)
[14:23] <mkanyicy> hozeHoze1, that error message imply that that command is not run as root
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> hozeHoze1: assuming /dev/scd0 is in /etc/fstab
[14:24] <L1nuxRules> use nfs and lock down your firewall and hosts files :)
[14:24] <owenll> fdlufei: I'm no expert the only suggestion I have is to try blueman - http://blueman-project.org/ - seems to have worked for others with your problem
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> hozeHoze1: or the pfreexec will fail
[14:24] <Gandofor> metaspike: it seems the nano touch is always problematic
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> metaspike: gksudo for gui apps
[14:25] <hozeHoze1> ActionParsnip: then the cdrom should be mounted when cd is inserted right?
[14:25] <owenll> fdlufei: therse is a guide to installing it here http://ubuntu-answers.blogspot.com/2011/11/bluetooth-on-ubuntu-1110.html
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> hozeHoze1: yes if fstab is setup, or the preexec will fail
[14:25] <mkanyicy> hozeHoze1, yes it should be mounted
[14:26] <mkanyicy> ActionParsnip, here is the fstab for hozeHoze1: http://pastebin.com/dSJ5RG4H
[14:26] <L1nuxRules> cd-rom will be mounted as the user your logged in as if you need to execute somethjing from it as root you will need to have the sudo creds to do so
[14:26] <L1nuxRules> otherwise activate root and run it as
[14:27] <fdlufei> owenll: thank you, I will try another way.
[14:27] <mkanyicy> !who | L1nuxRules
[14:27] <hozeHoze1> L1nuxRules: i see, thanks
[14:27] <metaspike> yep... sudo... the permission who gives a stufferatormaglominorator
[14:28] <L1nuxRules> sudo  is to prevent the noobs from breaking stuff
[14:28] <karol_> nothing happens
[14:29] <karol_> grub is still only showing windows
[14:29] <Sidewinder1> and gksudo for GUI apps. :-)
[14:29] <metaspike> karol_, did you try grub-install like I suggested?
[14:29] <karol_> ive searched all /boot partition for files with "windows" in its content, ant there is only one grub.cfg with many menuentries like i said
[14:29] <karol_> yes, i did it
[14:30] <karol_> and before that ive done apt-get purge grub-pc to remove old one
[14:30] <L1nuxRules> sidewinder1 rather than disabling root gksudo should have been
[14:30] <retrorex_> ok default settings with swap it is
[14:31] <aLeSD> hi LL
[14:31] <aLeSD> how could I set the theme of m 11.10 ?
[14:31] <aLeSD> fonts for example
[14:32] <bullgard4> What Ubuntu tool will list all devices currently online on my Ethernet LAN?
[14:33] <metaspike> karol_, with a seperate boot parition it's more complicated, hence "seperate boot partitions are for advanced users" - anyway. you can probably- sudo grub-install --boot-directory /dirtomybootparition /dev/sda - assuming /dir is acutally pointing to your boot parition directory, mounted, and that sda is your target drive.  maybe should have just used a single / parition eh?
[14:33] <bullgard4> !gnome-shell | aleSD
[14:34] <metaspike> bullgard4,  ifconfig  ... or to be specific... sudo ifconfig | grep eth
[14:35] <bullgard4> !gnome3 | aleSD
[14:35] <nith206> heloo guys
[14:35] <nith206> can u tell me how to remove unity from 11.10 completely?
[14:35] <karol_> to make sudo grub install i had to apt-get install grub-pc, and immediately after that, grub install script started and asked me for /boot partition and target device, so we can assume that ive already done it?
[14:35] <L1nuxRules> ! installing grub to mbr | karol_
[14:36] <L1nuxRules> ! "installing grub to mbr" | karol_
[14:36] <karol_> my friend told me to dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-{kernel version} can it help?
[14:37] <L1nuxRules> no
[14:37]  * Sidewinder1 passes L1nuxRules another drink. ;-)
[14:37] <bullgard4> metaspike: Your answer is false.
[14:37] <L1nuxRules> sidewinder1 :)
[14:38] <lhk> hi
[14:38] <owenll> aLeSD: you can change themes in system settings -> appearance
[14:38] <L1nuxRules> bullguard4 what is it your looking for?
[14:38] <lhk> I got a problem with installing a package
[14:38] <almoxarife> !info gnome-nettool | bullgard4
[14:39] <lhk> I need cairo for gtk python development and don't know what to make of this error:
[14:39] <lhk> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[14:39] <lhk> python-gobject-cairo:i386: Depends: python (< 2.8) but 2.7.2-7ubuntu2 is to be installed
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> lhk: can you install it in terminal please and pastebin the output
[14:39] <lhk> ok
[14:39] <bullgard4> L1nuxRules: I asked: "What Ubuntu tool will list all devices currently online on my Ethernet LAN?"
[14:40] <L1nuxRules> lhk your python packages are newer than that packages dependencies
[14:40] <lhk> hm
[14:40] <owenll> aLeSD: and change the fonts with gnome-tweak-tool "sudo apt-get install gnome-tweak-tool"
[14:40] <L1nuxRules> If its not the latest version try compilig the latest otherwise you will need to get from the repos
[14:40] <lhk> but 2.7.2 is definitely lower than 2.8
[14:40] <lhk> what repos ?
[14:41] <almoxarife> lhk: broken dependencies usually mean ppa's are dueling with the base system
[14:41] <L1nuxRules> lnk ubuntus
[14:41] <metaspike> bullgard4, what information are you looking for specifcally then? hardware information? ip address information? what?
[14:42] <lhk> I'll take a look at my repo list
[14:43]  * metaspike peace!
[14:43] <L1nuxRules> buullguard4 run a localhost port scan to see whats open and check netstat for listening ports
[14:43] <lhk> for starters:
[14:43] <bullgard4> metaspike: Preferably the hostnames of the devices. substed the IP addresses of the devices in my LAN (section).
[14:44] <lhk> here's the pastebin output:
[14:44] <lhk> http://pastebin.com/mrEyLnsY
[14:46] <Gandofor> well, no chance for me. currently, ipod nano touch is out of reach for linux and ubuntu.
[14:46] <Gandofor> thanks for the help, guys and girls
[14:47] <no_gravi1y> Hey! Anybody good with ssh? Is it possible with ssh to create an ssh tunnel that you can use as the standard gateway, so that all your network traffic goes through it?
[14:47] <DarkXPhenomenon> try putty
[14:47] <compdoc> what would you connect to?
[14:47] <no_gravi1y> compdoc: to my server
[14:47] <DarkXPhenomenon> putty helps establish ssh tunnels...
[14:48] <no_gravi1y> DarkXPhenomenon: i would prefer the ssh command if its possible.
[14:48] <L1nuxRules> putty is for windows use your x term!
[14:48] <compdoc> a tunnel is a tunnel - tho Ive never used an ssh tunnel. VPNs are usually used for what you describe
[14:48] <VCoolio> bullgard4: check nmap
[14:48] <karol_> damn, nothing changed after dpkg-reconfigure linux-image...
[14:48] <DarkXPhenomenon> L1nuxRules: putty exists for linux too.. :D
[14:48] <almoxarife> L1nuxRules: putty is also a ubuntu tool
[14:49] <bullgard4> VCoolio: I will.
[14:49] <L1nuxRules> darkxphenomeon I know it does just not the Linux way IMO
[14:50] <DarkXPhenomenon> to each his  own... :D
[14:50] <L1nuxRules> all Linux boxes have a term why install something that your term can do?
[14:50] <Sidewinder1> karol_, I certainly understand your frustration, and hopefully patience. I don't think it's a 'kernel' issue, but, obviously a Grub issue; wish I could be of more help but I still use Grub legacy... :-(
[14:51] <almoxarife> L1nuxRules: you here to help or provide your interpretation of linux husbandry?
[14:51] <aLeSD> gnome shell is better that unity ?
[14:51] <lhk> back again
[14:51] <aLeSD> nice
[14:51] <L1nuxRules> almoxarife I help when there cpable of helping
[14:52] <pksadiq> aLeSD: its upto you, any I love gnome shell more
[14:52] <lhk> I tried installing python cairo bindings with only the standard repos
[14:52] <lhk> same error
[14:52] <lhk> moreover:
[14:52] <aLeSD> pksadiq, how to install gnome shell ?
[14:52] <karol_> thanks anyway, what do you think about trying other boot manager? like lilo? does it make sens to try?
[14:52] <lhk> it would now like to have libc6 <2.4+
[14:52] <lhk> I got libc6 but not in that version.
[14:52] <pksadiq> !info gnome-shell | aLeSD
[14:52] <lhk> It's still 2.3
[14:53] <lhk> is there any way I can add something like a gtk+ repo that satisfies all these dependencies ?
[14:53] <Sidewinder1> karol_, I think you'll eventually solve it using grub; perhaps ask ActionParsnip He's really good. :-)
[14:53] <pksadiq> aLeSD: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell might do,
[14:53] <aLeSD> ok
[14:54] <owenll> aLeSD: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell or from the software centre - then log out and choose gnome on login
[14:54] <L1nuxRules> lhk your kernel is still 2.6x too chill
[14:54] <karol_> hmm good idea :) thanks
[14:54] <lhk> can I check this in the terminal ?
[14:54] <karol_> sure ill talk to him
[14:54] <L1nuxRules> you want the latest go with Fedora
[14:54] <lhk> I'm using 11.10 of ubuntu
[14:55] <lhk> system monitor says kernel is 3.x
[14:55] <Sidewinder1> karol_, He may be in PM with another; I'd just wait 'til he returns and ask.. HTH..
[14:56] <L1nuxRules> lhk where you getting that frome whats uname -r show?
[14:56] <almoxarife> lhk: did you add a ppa related to gtk?
[14:56] <lhk> almoxarife no
[14:56] <bullgard4> VCoolio: '~$ nmap -sP 192.168.178.0/24' worked great. --  Thank you very much for your help.
[14:56] <lhk> L1nuxRules no, from system monitor
[14:56] <lhk> almoxarife, is there a gtk repo ?
[14:57] <L1nuxRules> lnk ah ok so is it wrong does uname -r disagree?
[14:57] <Sidewinder1> bullgard4, If you prefer GUI apps., perhaps check out zenmap.
[14:57] <karol_> ok, ill do so
[14:57] <almoxarife> L1nuxRules: does your distro have system-monitor?
[14:57] <L1nuxRules> almoxarife no
[14:57] <fivedaysahead> how do i set a login script on lightdm?
[14:57] <VCoolio> bullgard4: no problem :) make an easy alias for it and done
[14:57] <helo1> Is there a command similar to dd or cp that will show progress during a transfer?
[14:57] <rumpe1> helo1, rsync
[14:57] <lhk> uname -r puts 3.0.0-14-generic
[14:58] <larrydag> i played Rocksmith on a buddies Xbox the other day.  Awesome!  Is there a linux equivalent in development somewhere!!!?!1??!
[14:58] <L1nuxRules> almoxarife I dont use ubuntu either Im learning it, Im Red Hat based
[14:58] <Sidewinder1> helo1, Or perhaps the GUI version of rsync, 'Grsync".
[14:58] <aLeSD> use slackware
[14:59] <Sidewinder1> Here we go..
[14:59] <L1nuxRules> lhk thats not ubuntus latest kernel
[14:59] <lhk> how can I upgrade
[14:59] <lhk> or better: do I have to upgrade
[14:59] <OerHeks> L1nuxRules, yes it is. how do you know it is not ?
[14:59] <L1nuxRules> lhk have you enabled any 3rd party repos?
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> L1nuxRules  i have the same
[14:59] <aLeSD> I have a radeon and the driver is shit
[14:59] <dr_willis> always a good idea to be up to date.
[14:59] <aLeSD> do you know it ?
[15:00] <lhk> I've disabled all 3rd party repos
[15:00] <dr_willis> aLeSD:  ati stuff has always been bothersome in linux for years and years.
[15:00] <lhk> I'd just like to get a running copy of pygtk
[15:00] <Sidewinder1> karol_, Also, dr_willis would be a good person to ask about your GRUB problems..
[15:00] <L1nuxRules> 0erheks because the latest is 2.6.32-37-generic
[15:01] <OerHeks> L1nuxRules, on 10.04 lts it may be, but lhk is using ubuntu 11.10
[15:01] <L1nuxRules> Im an Ubuntu noob but not a Linux one like you 0erheks
[15:01] <karol_> ok thanks, i just have to go afk for a few minutes, and ill write pm to him :)
[15:01] <aithox> hi where can i ask some Q?
[15:02] <dr_willis> aithox:  This is for ubuntu support.. go for it!
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> ?
[15:02] <lhk> is there a 3rd party repo for gtk's dependencies
[15:02] <almoxarife> lhk: I want to try to reproduce the errors you are getting, what package do I need to try to install?
[15:02] <Balthazar> What gui program do you use to set program defaults? Like to change the default music player?
[15:03] <lhk> Ialmoxarife, it's this one:
[15:03] <lhk> python-gobject-cairo:i386
[15:03] <L1nuxRules> 0erhek true so LTS dont keep up with kernels?
[15:04] <almoxarife> Balthazar: nautilus will do it
[15:05] <aithox> i can't install ubuntu 11.10 on Acer Aspire 4752ZG series
[15:05] <fivedaysahead> was it ab ad iso burn?
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> aithox: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[15:05] <OerHeks> L1nuxRules, yes, because not all software packages are the latest, LTS aims for stability.
[15:05] <fivedaysahead> ya check the MD5sum
[15:05] <aithox> my CD is ok i've installed on another pc
[15:05] <Sidewinder1> L1nuxRules, On my 10.04, my current is 2.6.32.37.81
[15:06] <Balthazar> almoxarife: I see how to change defaults for individual files, what about in general?
[15:06] <sparkybluefox> Question:  Can I install Ubuntu on an Asus Eee PC 8G   (8gig storage) (1gig ram) ?
[15:06] <L1nuxRules> 0erheks I C I always thought the kernel would be updated to the latest. Cheers.
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> aithox: ok, what happens when you try to boot the CD/USB?
[15:07] <almoxarife> lhk: I already had it installed, do you have 'updates' checked in repos?
[15:07] <aithox> after langauge choiced it promped me a black screen with some message
[15:08] <lhk> almoxarife, yes
[15:08] <aithox> noveao driver ?? forgotten the word excetly it seem to b the driver name
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> aithox: what video chip do you use?
Sorry for being an ass earlier
[15:09] <aithox> nvidia GEfource GT520M
[15:09] <Balthazar> almoxarife: nevermind, found it in system settings>system info
[15:09] <L1nuxRules> nvidia FTW
[15:09] <L1nuxRules> gti FOTGY
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> aithox: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[15:10] <aithox> my ubuntu haven't installed yet..
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> aithox: yes, you can add it to the live CD environment
[15:10] <BombaAriba> anybody running mac4linux on 11.10?
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | aithox
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> BombaAriba: I have done in the past
[15:11] <BombaAriba> On 11.10?
[15:11] <aithox> thx so much to all
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> BombaAriba: sure
[15:11] <BombaAriba> I downgraded
[15:11] <BombaAriba> to 10.04
[15:11] <BombaAriba> because I really don´t like Unity
[15:12] <BombaAriba> And gnome3 is also a no go for me
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> BombaAriba: just switch to XFCE and you won't get unity
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> BombaAriba: there are more DEs than Gnome
[15:12] <BombaAriba> XFCE?
[15:12] <BombaAriba> yeah true that
[15:12] <ahmrahtcheer> Howdy!  Where would I upload a text file to detail the steps required to install Ubuntu 11.10 on a new model Samsung lappy?  The model, a NP305V5A-A04US has only been out for a couple of months and has new chipsets that are only recently supported by Linux.
[15:12] <L1nuxRules> switch to tty1 to really avoid it... but yeah the desk tops are going bad!
[15:12] <ahmrahtcheer> and I had a helluva time getting Linux on it, due to video and wireless issues
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> ahmrahtcheer: if you have a hot-to then I suggest you use ubuntuforums
[15:13] <BombaAriba> or the ubuntu wiki?
[15:13] <ahmrahtcheer> ActionParsnip, yeah, I wrote a howto
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> BombaAriba: sure, why not both
[15:13] <ahmrahtcheer> didn't know which would be better, the forums or the wiki
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> ahmrahtcheer: I'd shoot for both :)
[15:13] <helo1> I issued the sudo reboot command, but the machine didn't reboot. How can I force it? (system is remote)
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> helo1: try:  sudo shutdown -r now
[15:14] <helo1> Thanks @ ActionParsnip
[15:14] <bullgard4> Sidewinder1: Apparently Zenmap is a GUI for nmap. I managed Zenmap to extract detailed information about my new network device. --  Thank you very much for your suggestion.
[15:15] <ahmrahtcheer> ActionParsnip, okay, cool beans.  Will do.  Once I got the video issues straightened out, the wlan issues almost solved themselves.
[15:15] <L1nuxRules> if someone was that stuid to run that in a term they deserve it :)
[15:15] <Guest36660> bonjour
[15:15] <Sidewinder1> bullgard4, My pleasure. :D
[15:15] <L1nuxRules> did you just reboot guest?
[15:17] <bullgard4> Sidewinder1: And what role does Wireshark play here?
[15:17] <billyard> je suis pantalon,  avez-vous du beurre?
[15:17] <ahmrahtcheer> off to post my howto on the wiki AND in the forums.  Cheers, y'all!
[15:17] <Sidewinder1> bullgard4, I'm not familiar with wireshark, sorry. :-(
[15:17] <bullgard4> ok
[15:18] <L1nuxRules> wireshark is a packet sniffer that will make your network traffic a little more human readable
[15:18] <Edward2> Ok, got sound from the rear, shame about the front.
[15:19] <no_gravi1y> My tunnel-via-ssh-quest... what I found out so far is that you can create a new network device with "ssh -NTCf -w 0:0 <ip_of_your_server>". It seems to work. It creates a network device with the name of tun0. Can I just use this device as my standard gateway? And if so.. how?
[15:19] <colton_> i wrote "sudo root" and it says "sudo: root: command not found" does anyone know how to fix this?
[15:19] <meerkats> sysinfo-memory information shows: memory total: 2011 MiB free 55% and Swap total 5890 MiB free 100% cached 704 MiB, active 1024 MiB, inactive 695 MiB. I have been playing Boswars at incredible slow speed, and have been advised to increase Swap. With this information, should I use 2 GB for swap or would that be too much? too little?
[15:19] <Humbedooh> apt-get install sudo? :<
[15:19] <Humbedooh> or rather hahah
[15:20] <Humbedooh> su root
[15:20] <MK`>  Is it possible to create a virtual install of Ubuntu in, say, virtualbox, and then later convert it to a normal install, converting  a virtual partition into a physical one I guess?
[15:20] <phiil_> hey guys
[15:20] <phiil_> im using ubuntu 11.10
[15:21] <Humbedooh> me too!
[15:21] <phiil_> can ug uys show me how to
[15:21] <phiil_> scroll up in my xchat
[15:21] <phiil_> its really getting to me
[15:21] <Edward2> Now I have a question. Where can I find a KDE that isn't "Plasma"?
[15:21] <Humbedooh> use your scroll button?
[15:21] <Humbedooh> or page up and page down
[15:21] <phiil_> well there just isnt a scroll button!!!
[15:21] <L1nuxRules> no need for more than 1gb swap unless your stretching resources swap is only needed these days for emergincies
[15:21] <phiil_> and i dont see why its not working?!@!?!
[15:21] <Humbedooh> phil on your mouse!
[15:22] <phiil_> ok well i have figured this out
[15:22] <Humbedooh> or if xchat is bugging you, try xchat-gnome
[15:22] <phiil_> i can only scroll up
[15:22] <phiil_> if i highlight the text
[15:22] <phiil_> and move the mouse cursor upwards
[15:22] <L1nuxRules> your pretty thick then
[15:22] <phiil_> but i cant find a scroll bar to use!!@!!@#$
[15:23] <phiil_> gagghhgghggg i haate computers
[15:23] <Edward2> phiil_: it is VERY small on the side.
[15:23] <phiil_> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[15:23] <Edward2> phiil_: a small red line.
[15:23] <phiil_> yes i've
[15:23] <phiil_> found!
[15:23] <phiil_> thank you guys so much for your help
[15:23] <phiil_> i love ubuntu!
[15:23] <Edward2> phiil_: The new fun Windows Behaviour of Gnome Desktop version... Um... What are we on now?
[15:23] <L1nuxRules> ppl who h8 computers should be banned !
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> L1nuxRules: swap is also needed for hibernate / suspend reasons
[15:24]  * Humbedooh has a big scrollbar!
[15:24] <phiil_> umm...
[15:24] <phiil_> huh?
[15:24] <Humbedooh> I don't use GNOME, so I have a real scrollbar :>
[15:24] <phiil_> Gnome is 13387
[15:25] <phiil_> :o
[15:25] <L1nuxRules> ActionParsnip I forgot all about them because never used them.
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> Humbedooh: you can use regular scrollbars in Oneiric if you dislike the overlay things
[15:25] <Humbedooh> not so much for VNC over a distance of 5000 km :p
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> L1nuxRules: its still exists and is desirable for others, so swap can be needed
[15:25] <paul> After the last round of updates Xfce4 got broken. There is nothing in the window manager. And nothing in ~/.xsessions. What's going on?
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> Humbedooh: what do you use when you connect to the system?
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> Humbedooh: I hope you use an SSH tunnel to secure the VNC too
[15:26] <Humbedooh> yes yes, but it's a bit sluggish, so I'm using Lubuntu instead of gnome
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> Humbedooh: what actions do you partake in VNC?
[15:27] <Humbedooh> well I chat on IRC fx :p
[15:27] <Humbedooh> and I doodle about on the server with some development
[15:27] <Sidewinder1> colton_, I don't think tou need "sudoroot", just sudo, then issue the command..
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> Humbedooh: if you install openssh-server  you can use irssi and chat that way, it's what I do from work
[15:28] <Sidewinder1> yoe, even.
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> Humbedooh: can you not develop using nano? Just trying to make the process sleeker for you
[15:28] <Sidewinder1> you, damn!
[15:28] <Humbedooh> mayhaps, but this way I can have it running all the time and just come back and looksee
[15:28] <Humbedooh> develop using nano, hmm....no
[15:29] <Humbedooh> I prefer a proper IDE for that
[15:29] <abby_j> vi for the win! :D
[15:29] <colton_> why i dont see any username document after I have done "sudo useradd username"???
[15:29] <colton_> in /home directory
[15:29] <Humbedooh> nano is fine for single files and such, but it's overkill to develop an entire mail server suite using just that
[15:29] <L1nuxRules> always use nano -w
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> Humbedooh: If you are just ircing then irssi will give a smoother run, updates can also be ran using terminal.
[15:29] <MonkeyDust> colton_  try useradd -m
[15:30] <Humbedooh> ActionParsnip, probably, but I'm just fine this way :)
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> !pm
[15:30] <BluesKaj> howdy folks
[15:31] <Sidewinder1> Mornin' BluesKaj !
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> o/ BluesKaj
[15:31] <BluesKaj> Hey Sidewinder1 , MonkeyDust
[15:31] <dazzel> can you re-encrypt an encrypted partition? So make new encryption headers?
[15:32] <Sidewinder1> dazzel, Not sure, but I'd think you'd have to de-encrypt, then re-encrypt..
[15:33] <Sidewinder1> dazzel, Just a WAG, on my part.
[15:34] <eneldo> install ubuntu 10.10 maverick dell studio hybrid hdmi audio no work any help or where to search
[15:34] <Sidewinder1> !sound | eneldo
[15:34] <dazzel> Sidewinder1, off course...what i mean is a have two usb disk, one of them contains a LUKS volume and i want to dd the whole block device to usb stick 2 without having to make new LUKS volumes. .
[15:34] <warfaren> perhaps you need to install graphics drivers. as the hdmi port is usually part of the graphics device
[15:35] <dazzel> i can copy all files from usb 1 to the new usb 2 stick but i would rather dd it and re-encrypt after..
[15:36] <Sidewinder1> dazzel, That's Way, way beyond my expertise, sorry. :-(
[15:36] <dazzel> ok thanks anyway..
[15:37] <RadiumOxide> How do I add my own shortcut under the games section in the ubuntu menu (unity)
[15:38] <dazzel> RadiumOxide, gnome-control-center, menu editor
[15:38] <dazzel> RadiumOxide, open a xterm by alt-f2 and then type# gnome-control-center
[15:39] <dazzel> RadiumOxide, its called menu-editor or main menu in Ubuntu
[15:39] <warfaren> howcome gnome if he is using unity? is unity based on gnome?
[15:40] <RadiumOxide> dazzel I don't see any entry entitled menu editor or main menu in the gnome control center?
[15:40] <becker_11> Hi, I am totally at a loss atm. I have ubuntu 11.10 installed and sound has worked perfectly until tonight. I have unplugged all accessories from my machine (headphones, speakers etc) I have in built speakers in the laptop but sound has deserted me
[15:40] <dazzel> warfaren, who cares, gnome-control-center is still there..
[15:40] <warfaren> just curious
[15:40] <hiexpo> awhile back i had a little app that allowed me to open and close ports but i can not remember what it was called does anyone know
[15:41] <warfaren> ports? you mean tcp/udp ports? in your firewall or router?
[15:41] <dazzel> RadiumOxide, maybe you have to install it in Ubuntu Software center?
[15:41] <dazzel> i have it
[15:41] <hiexpo> warfaren, no the ports on ubuntu
[15:41] <lastelemental> I need some help I recently installed ubuntu 11.10 however the resolution is horrible at only 640x480 can any1 help?
[15:41] <dazzel> you can also edit you files in .gnome2/ in your home dir but main menu is easier
[15:42] <VCoolio> RadiumOxide: what if you alt+f2 and run: alacarte
[15:42] <dazzel> RadiumOxide, dirs like .config, .local and .gnome2 hold your personal stuff and settings
[15:43] <VCoolio> RadiumOxide: or create a .desktop file yourself in ~/.local/share/applications, examples in /usr/share/applications
[15:43] <rin> hello
[15:44] <lastelemental> I need some help I recently installed ubuntu 11.10 however the resolution is horrible at only 640x480 can any1 help?
[15:44] <rin> anyone know about parole plugin at xubuntu?
[15:44] <abby_j> have you tried to run xconfig lastelemental ?
[15:45] <abby_j> sounds like your video drivers are not loaded correctly lastelemental
[15:45] <BombaAriba> yeah check for hardware drivers
[15:45] <BombaAriba> anybody got some luck with firefox 9.1 and moonlight?
[15:45] <lastelemental> Ive tried dirvers already
[15:45] <rin> HELPPPPPPPPPPP anyone know about parole ?
[15:46] <lastelemental> and i did xconfig
[15:46] <BombaAriba> Can´t you change anything in your setting lastelemental?
[15:46] <BombaAriba> can´t you choice an other resolution?
[15:46] <becker_11> rin, yeah you get it when you leave gaol
[15:46] <lastelemental> xrandr says the max if 640x480 but i have it at 1024x768 in winxp
[15:47] <BombaAriba> strange
[15:47] <BombaAriba> you should overule that
[15:47] <mash_> d
[15:47] <lastelemental> ive tried newmode/addmode but it fails to change the resolution
[15:47] <lastelemental> ive tried a mode line in xorg.conf but that did nothing
[15:47] <rin> my xubuntu say i dont have plugin gstreaming
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> rin: did you install xubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:48] <BombaAriba> have you tried resolution switcher?
[15:48] <lastelemental> never heard of it
[15:48] <BombaAriba> from the software center?
[15:48] <BombaAriba> perhaps that could overrule it
[15:48] <mash_> /quit/quit
[15:48] <rin> i am new '^^
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> lastelemental: what GPU do you use?
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> rin: well you now know what to do
[15:49] <lastelemental> i have a 9800gtx
[15:49] <rin> driver windows all '^^
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> lastelemental: ok try:  sudo nvidia-xconfig    then reboot
[15:49] <rin> i cant foun any driver
[15:50] <lastelemental> alright I'll try that
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> rin: its a package you install in software centre
[15:50] <rin> where is xconfig?
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> rin: your issue is with media playback, right?
[15:51] <rin> hmmm just psx on Xubuntu but I cant found any sound driver...
[15:51] <BluesKaj> lastelemental, that driver is probly nvidia-current , it's most likely the "recommended driver "in admin>additional drivers
[15:51] <rin> ><
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> rin: what is psx?
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> !info psx
[15:52] <Yoshi765> 'Im back
[15:52] <Yoshi765> bitches
[15:52] <Yoshi765> linux suxks
[15:52] <rin> ------------play "legend of mana "  PSX --without sound ---confuse
[15:52] <lastelemental> unity is horrible on small resolutions >_>
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> lastelemental: not if you make the panel smaller
[15:53] <colton_> if i made user name "ryan" with "sudo useradd -p 0000 -m ryan", how do i log in to ryan account?????
[15:53] <venkatmangudi> lastelemental: completely agree. Use xfce
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> rin: what is psx?
[15:53] <lastelemental> i normally use lxde but im tring to fix the res first
[15:53] <rin> PCSX ----- Playstation emulator on Xubuntu
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> rin: do you have sound in ubuntu apps?
[15:53] <lastelemental> brb rebooting
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> !info pcsx
[15:54] <rin> its good but i cant find sound hik...
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> rin: do you have sound in other ubuntu apps?
[15:54] <pdfman> hi room
[15:54] <rin> easy use symantic, but no sound    '^^
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> colton_: the password will be 0000 as you set, or you can run:  sudo passwd ryan    and set the password
[15:55] <pdfman> i am new to ubuntu,i have a new hdd and want to install ubuntu,is it suppose to run from the cd?
[15:56] <coleix> Anyone has issues woth google music and ubuntu? I mean, firefox is not playing, I thought it was java but no, I started it safe mode to check add-ons an nothing, Ideas?
[15:56] <lastelemental> i used the command however nothing changed
[15:56] <venkatmangudi> pdfman: yes, you can run from CD and then install it to the hard disk
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> rin: if you play MP3s using VLC nd the like, do you get sound
[15:56] <rin> playstation emulator
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> pdfman: boot from the CD and you can install to the drive
[15:56] <pdfman> when I run from cd it stops with command lines
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> rin: doesn't answer my simple question
[15:56] <rin> tekken, old playstation
[15:56] <WindowsMojave> Can you help me find a Wireless USB Adaptor that works with Kernel 2.6.32?
[15:57] <coleix> I meant flash*
[15:57] <mlerchl> pdfman, you can also run from USB.
[15:57] <pdfman> segmentation error?what is that?
[15:57] <akks> xxxxx
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> rin: once more, do you have sound in VLC if you play an MP3
[15:57] <BluesKaj> pdfman, you can install from the cd , then it will boot/run like any other OS
[15:57] <venkatmangudi> pdfman: that is not good. when do you get it?
[15:57] <rin> Final Fantasy
[15:58] <akks> ПО РУССКИЙ НЕЕЕ???
[15:58] <rin> no ^^'
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> coleix: can you give a pastebin of:  uname -a; lsb_release -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[15:58] <pdfman> when I insert the cd and boot from it
[15:58] <grape_> when i use desktop recorder to record a youtube video, does anyone know why there is no sound?
[15:58] <rin> just openGL
[15:58] <grape_> once i play the video back
[15:58] <akks> ААААААААААААААААА
[15:58] <coleix> give me sec
[15:58] <venkatmangudi> pdfman: when you boot from CD, select the test CD option
[15:58] <oCean> !ru | akks
[15:58] <venkatmangudi> pdfman: looks like you have a bad ISO
[15:59] <lastelemental> redownload and reburn
[15:59] <pdfman> it does not get tar
[15:59] <rin> yea how to install Ideas on Xubuntu?
[15:59] <pdfman> far
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> pdfman: did you open the ISO with the CD burner, or did you extract the ISO and burn the contents?
[15:59] <pdfman> it works on another machine though
[15:59] <coleix> ActionParsnip: the command is not giving me anything, is kinda in loading
[15:59] <hubnet> hi
[16:00] <hubnet> free shell
[16:00] <hubnet> ?
[16:00] <hubnet> bnc
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> rin: as you don't want to answer me I leave you to somebody else. I gave you fair chance
[16:00] <hubnet> pleas
[16:00] <FloodBot1> hubnet: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:00] <pdfman> i used cd burner and it works on my other machine
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> coleix: copy the command as one, not the last quote
[16:00] <rin> @actionParsnip : no sound
[16:00] <oCean> hubnet: this channel is for technical ubuntu support only, not for shell accounts
[16:00] <venkatmangudi> hubnet: free shell/bnc... wrong channel
[16:00] <lastelemental> ActionParsnip: I tried the command and rebooting but that didn't do anything for the resolution
[16:01] <venkatmangudi> search for a channel that can give you a free shell
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> lastelemental: ok then run:  gksudo nvidia-settings
[16:01] <BluesKaj> pdfman, describe "it works" . installs or runs from the cd or ..what ?
[16:02] <pdfman> if i remove the hdd ,is it suppse to run?
[16:02] <abby_j> it can run on cd or usb stick
[16:02] <BluesKaj> you install the OS on to your hdd from the liuvecd , pdfman
[16:02] <lastelemental> Action: the X server display config only gives upto 640x480 aswell
[16:02] <pdfman> it does both.runs from cd and also instals on the machine
[16:02] <coleix> ActionParnish: http://paste.ubuntu.com/786951/
[16:02] <BluesKaj> livecd
[16:03] <BluesKaj> so what
[16:03] <BluesKaj> oops what's your problem , pdfman '
[16:03] <codeflux> hello! can anyone help answer a few questions about vsftpd? :$
[16:03] <pdfman> since my hdd is new,ill remove it and see if ubuntu runs
[16:03] <coleix> ActionParsnip: mispelled, http://paste.ubuntu.com/786951/
[16:03] <pangolin> pdfman: the live cd will run yes.
[16:03] <caasi> how to identify my account?
[16:03] <BluesKaj> pdfman, that won't solve anything
[16:04] <rin> >now turn to kwan ie
[16:04] <hsmith> @find girl dragon tattoo
[16:04] <oCean> caasi: your Freenode account? Help/support in #freenode channel
[16:04] <pdfman> thanks guys.ill be back after trying again
[16:04] <pangolin> !warez > hsmith
[16:04] <bootdisk> does ubuntu support HD-Audio in bitstreaming yet?
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> coleix: run:  sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-downloader:i386 flashplugin-installer
[16:05] <pdfman> happy newyear to u all
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> coleix: then enable the partner repo and install adobe-installer
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> coleix: it will install 64bit flash
[16:05] <codeflux> stupid question: I added a rule to iptables to drop all traffic after the rules for 443, 80 and 22. If I now add a rule for port 21, will it work or does it have to be before the "drop all traffic" rule?
[16:05] <fazl> hello... I'm using Damn Small Linux and trying to get a Linksys WC11 V4 card to work. It powers up but i can't get it to access the wifi. Anyone here with knoppix experience who might be able to help?
[16:06] <pangolin> fazl: try a DSL channel
[16:06] <fazl> good idea...
[16:06] <coleix> ActionParsnip: Is the one that says v10?
[16:06] <fazl> I usually run ubuntu so it just defaulted here
[16:06] <fazl> thanks
[16:06] <fazl> bye
[16:07] <DarkXphenomenon> Is there a multithreaded option for proxy chaining? Better than desproxy i mean...
[16:07] <bootdisk> Hi! Does ubuntu support HD-Audio in bitstreaming yet?
[16:07] <svensk_a1> is there an ubuntu sami channel?
[16:07] <Confiscative> Hi. I'm trying to mount an Logical Volume with the options dev,suid,exec,users: 'mount -o defaults,users /dev/mapper/myvg-myvol /media/mymnt', but when I check with 'mount' I see it received nosuid,nodev,noexec. How do I mount it with the options I require?
[16:07] <captainjamie> Anyone know of a way in python of running terminal commands based on what a user has inputted into a box? like the user types "gimp" and presses ok and the program runs apt-get install gimp -y
[16:08] <lastelemental> ActionParsnip: anything else I can try?
[16:08] <Nfisher> How to edit delay-time if mis-typed sudo-pass in Terminal?
[16:09] <kwanIe> -----------sleep
[16:09] <coleix> ActionParsnip: Firefox says I don't have flash plugin installed now
[16:09] <asmodeus> Hi.  I'm trying to install ubuntu 11.10, but the installer won't read the partition table, and the "new partition table" button, along with the "add", "change", "delete", and revert buttons.  The "device for boot loader installation" is set to /dev/sda, which is what it should be.  I am trying to install on a new disk, no windows.  This is the amd 64 cd
[16:09] <kwanIe> anyone know to setting sound?
[16:10] <asmodeus> sorry, the buttons do nothing
[16:10] <coleix> ActionParsnip: I searched the software center and installed Adobe Flash Plugin 10
[16:10] <quiescens> Confiscative: why would it have dev,suid,exec if you didn't specify that on your options?
[16:11] <coleix> ActionParsnip: But it says the same with uname -a; lsb_release -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[16:11] <xix4rrito> hi
[16:11] <xix4rrito> can someone help me?
[16:11] <Confiscative> quiescens: 'defaults' will take care of that. Anyhow, when I specify them explicitly, it won't receive them anyway.
[16:11] <xix4rrito> i hava a pc in a network
[16:11] <xix4rrito> ping other pcs
[16:11] <unreal-dude> ok, a buddy setup a server, i connected via ssh, after some configuration changes, and a server reload, ssh dies with error code 255 (according to /var/log/syslog) but gives nothing in /var/log/auth.log, where should i be looking instead?
[16:11] <xix4rrito> but can ping internet host. .
[16:11] <oCean> !enter | xix4rrito
[16:12] <lwizardl> Hello
[16:12] <quiescens> Confiscative: "users" overrides and prevents dev,suid,exec
[16:12] <lwizardl> anyone know how to get a Virgin Mobile Broadband2Go USB Modem to work under linux ?
[16:13] <quiescens> Confiscative: unless you explicitly set them
[16:13] <Confiscative> quiescens: Ah, alright. I'll try again, thanks.
[16:13] <Nfisher> xix4rrito, who do you want to ping?
[16:13] <quiescens> Confiscative: i should have been more clear i think, sorry
[16:13] <quiescens> lol
[16:13] <Nfisher> xix4rrito, thing is.. most servers/routers on the net drop Pings from unknown WAN destination
[16:14] <lastelemental> Does anyone know if its possible to force xorg to use a certain resolution other than Mode
[16:14] <Nfisher> xix4rrito, try ping 8.8.8.8
[16:14] <xix4rrito> i cant
[16:14] <xix4rrito> :S
[16:14] <xix4rrito> but i ping my network
[16:15] <LogicallyDashing> I am running Lucid on an armel machine. I can't seem to hit the main repositories. Are they down? My usual mirror doesn't seem to be working either.
[16:15] <LogicallyDashing> (main US repositories)
[16:15] <mgaunard> why are there still no svn 1.7 packages for ubuntu?
[16:15] <cisc0kid> good morning from Akron, OH!
[16:15] <cisc0kid> how is everyone today?
[16:15] <lastelemental> well i am giving up for now cya guys later
[16:17] <mobius420> Greetings #Ubuntu
[16:17] <xcycgx> i need ccv
[16:18] <GhostChips> Hi all - I've been having some major issues with 11.10. I can't get a login screen after I wake my laptop when it's been sleeping..
[16:18] <mobius420> I recently obtained an inspiron 15R laptop computer and installed Ubuntu.  Does anyone know if it's possible to utilize the "two-finger scroll" capabilities of the track-pad on the laptop?
[16:19] <mobius420> GhostChips,  that display issue just started?
[16:19] <GhostChips> Ubuntu has got pretty bad recently with power usage so I can't just have it running all the time but having to restart my system all the time is less than optimal
[16:19] <GhostChips> mobius420: I've never experienced it until I upgraded
[16:20] <mobius420> GhostChips,  I know what you mean.... Upgrade often ='s BREAK in the ubuntu world, at least temporarily
[16:20] <mobius420> GhostChips,  you do know you can boot to your previous kernel right?
[16:20] <yeehaw> So, I went back to ubuntu from Linux Mint but i'm noting that a lot of programs can't be installed on 11.10. Is is better to use 11.04 for the moment?
[16:20] <GhostChips> mobius420: They often do :( and I hate having to go back to Windows everytime this happens
[16:20] <GhostChips> mobius420: Is this a kernel issue though?
[16:21] <LogicallyDashing> It turned out I needed to use a repository that had packages available for my architecture. ports.ubuntu.com worked
[16:21] <GhostChips> Perhaps it's an issue with Unity? I've been using Gnome up until now
[16:21] <mobius420> GhostChips,  well honestly I do not know why it's doing it, it's probably a power management issue imho....but booting backwards will eliminate the problem until someone else fixes it lol
[16:21] <mobius420> can you grok it?
[16:22] <GhostChips> I believe it's a menu option in GRUB
[16:22] <unreal-dude> ok, a buddy setup a server, i connected via ssh, after some configuration changes, and a server reload, ssh dies with error code 255 (according to /var/log/syslog) but gives nothing in /var/log/auth.log, where should i be looking instead?
[16:22] <mobius420> yea... "previous lversions of linux" or some such
[16:22] <mobius420> just hit enter on that,  then select your previous ( working ) version
[16:22] <asmodeus> Hi.  I'm trying to install ubuntu 11.10, but the installer won't read the partition table, and the "new partition table" button, along with the "add", "change", "delete", and revert buttons do nothing.  The "device for boot loader installation" is set to /dev/sda, which is what it should be.  I am trying to install on a new disk, no windows.  This is the amd 64 cd
[16:23] <GhostChips> mobius420: Will try. I think the current version is 3.0
[16:23] <GhostChips> ?
[16:24] <mobius420> yeap... my friends poke fun at me because I keep *many* of the old kernels in my grub list
[16:24] <GhostChips> Same here ;)
[16:24] <GhostChips> "Why have you got so many kernels?"
[16:24] <mobius420> Does anyone know if it is possible to enable two-finger scrolling in Ubuntu?
[16:24] <mobius420> of course with a compatible touchpad
[16:25] <coleix> Guys where can i find adobe flash x64? I installed both from software center but got the same i386 crap
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> asmodeus: if you run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install ubiquity     then once the install finishes, run the installer, is it better
[16:25] <mobius420> coleix,  I am just curious why do you need x64 flash?
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> coleix: its in the partner repo
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> coleix: enable it in software centre
[16:26] <coleix> mobius420: google music is not working
[16:26] <mobius420> man I work too much..... I don't even know what google music is :P
[16:26] <coleix> ActionParsnip: I already have enabled, I think
[16:26]  * mobius420 looks
[16:27] <TooR4u> Hi .. i want to export my chat history from one gmail account to another gmail account is that possible?
[16:27] <mobius420> coleix, it looks really cool!
[16:27] <BluesKaj> coleix, go to adobe and download it there extract it , then copy the libflashplayer.so file to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins with root permissions and you should be good to go.
[16:27] <coleix> Yeah it says Software packed by canonical for their partners or something like that right?
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> coleix: you can uncomment the partner repo lines in /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:31] <Mp3Lover> Hi guys... i have a drive that use to have ubuntu installed,... my dad's drive die so.. i want to use that drive to install windows again but i cant get it work (i think grub or something is remaining on the disk)... i'm using ubuntu 11.10 on my pc any ideas?
[16:31] <ivars_> Hello there! I've got a problem with my Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu 11.10. They do not appear to be configured and the command nvidia-xconfig makes Ubuntu Graphical version unusable. Any help, please?
[16:31] <unreal-dude> how to forcibly remove and install a package and rerun the config?
[16:31] <coleix> ActionParsnip: If you mean this http://paste.ubuntu.com/786983/ is already done
[16:31] <becker_11> my sound had departed the building tonight after working flawlessly for nearly a month I have rebooted and checked everything I can think of with no luck
[16:31] <unreal-dude> i tried sudo dpkg --purge package and then installed again with apt-get but it never configures
[16:32] <lwizardl> anyone know how to get a Virgin Mobile Broadband2Go USB Mobile Modem to work under Ubuntu ?
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> coleix: ok, now run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install adobe-installer
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> lwizardl: run:  lsusb    use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[16:33] <mobius420> greetings #Linux
[16:33] <becker_11> mobius420, wrong channel dude
[16:34] <coleix> ActionParsnip: It says that it didn't find the package
[16:34] <mobius420> greetings #Ubuntu
[16:34] <mijin> hello
[16:34] <helo1> lol
[16:34] <helo1> hi
[16:34] <ivars_> Hello there! I've got a problem with my Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu 11.10. They do not appear to be configured and the command nvidia-xconfig makes Ubuntu Graphical version unusable. Any help, please?
[16:34] <mijin> guys, there is sombody use backbox linux
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> coleix: ok, try: apt-cache search adobe
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> mijin: this is ubuntu support only
[16:35] <coleix> ActionParsnip: I tried tab and it didn't come up
[16:35] <mijin> hi
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> mijin: try #blackbox
[16:36] <mijin> ok
[16:36] <helo1> Anyone know of a CLI tool I can use to scan the subnet for other PC's? It seems a machine's IP changed and I am trying to figure out what it is without trial and error pinging
[16:36] <Travis> Hello.  Is it possible to make Ubuntu 11.10 look like 11.04?  I haven't found a way to do that yet.
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> coleix: sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> helo1: nmap can scan subnets
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> Travis: it does, unity is used in Natty too
[16:37] <helo1> ActionParsnip: thanks
[16:37] <coleix> ActionParsnip: I tried that last command and http://paste.ubuntu.com/786991/ came up, let me try flashplugin
[16:38] <Travis> What I mean is not have the sidebar that 11.10 does, but have it look like 11.04, with the menus at the top.
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> Travis: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-make-ubuntu-11-10-look-and-feel-like-gnome-2/
[16:38] <BluesKaj> coleix, try my method , it works for 64bit flash
[16:39] <nullucas> hi, is there a common way/tool to do serious backups of files on Ubuntu, with data integrity check? I think rsync only checks the checksums of the files you copy, but not all the rest you might not touch for ages
[16:39] <Travis> Time to transfer that to my laptop where I have Ubuntu installed.
[16:39] <coleix> BluesKaj: Let me try this and if doesn't work gonna give it a go
[16:39] <Travis> ActionParsnip:  thanks.
[16:39] <BluesKaj> no more wrappers or other unwanted junk from ubuntu-restricted-extras, coleix
[16:39] <becker_11> my sound had departed the building tonight after working flawlessly for nearly a month I have rebooted and checked everything I can think of with no luck
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> Travis: simple websearch....
[16:40] <ivars_> Hello there! I've got a problem with my Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu 11.10. They do not appear to be configured and the command nvidia-xconfig makes Ubuntu Graphical version unusable. My laptop has 2 Graphics cards Any help, please?
[16:40] <becker_11> does anyone have a suggestion on how to fix my sound please
[16:40] <Micael> I have a emachine e525 and upgrade it to ubuntu 11.10 and now i cant get into ubuntu again grub is gone and when i try and install ubuntu again i get a black screen anyone have the same problem
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> ivars_: optimus causes lots of issues, nvidia said they will only support Windows for optimus, there is a project called bumblebee which may mae it work
[16:41] <coleix> Thanks ActionParsnip, it worked
[16:41] <ivars_> ActionParsnip: Thanks, I'll check it out!
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> coleix: np :)
[16:42] <Kaizen> is there a way to set new users to /usr/sbin/nologin so they can't login but still let them SFTP to their home directory?
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> Kaizen: http://jazzymarketing.com/main/lc/1106/sftp-access-using-ssh-server-no-ssh-access
[16:44] <Kaizen> thanks ActionParsnip
[16:46] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | Micael
[16:47] <pdfman> where do i get ubuntu on usb files please?
[16:47] <Micael> ubottu Thanks i will check it out
[16:47] <Cyberkilla> ubottu, </3
[16:47] <dr_willis> pdfman:  what?
[16:47] <pdfman> files for usb
[16:48] <dr_willis> pdfman:  clarify what you mean...
[16:48] <pdfman> to run the ubuntu from usb
[16:48] <dr_willis> You can easially put an iso image ont o a usb flash drive using numerous tools.
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> pdfman: its the same ISO as for the CD, just use unetbootin to put it on the USB
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> pdfman: remember to MD5 test the ISO
[16:48] <dr_willis> for 11.10 you can even 'dd' the iso file to the flash drive.
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: does that work now?
[16:48] <dr_willis> Pendrivelinux has numerous tools for differnt os's that can do the same job as unetbootin also.
[16:48] <pdfman> what is dd please?
[16:48] <dr_willis> ActionParsnip:  yep. only for 11.10+ :)
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: sweeeet
[16:49] <dr_willis> pdfman:  a data imageing tool.
[16:49] <dr_willis> better perhaps to use a tool like unetbootin, or others mentioned at pendrivelinux web site.
[16:49] <pdfman> ok understood thank you
[16:50] <dr_willis> ubuntu has its own tools also you can use. but i tend to just use stuff from pendrivelinux.
[16:50] <dr_willis> I perfer a grub2 setup that boots differnt ISO files. :)
[16:50] <pdfman> when i boot from livecd ubuntu does not recognize my broadcom wireless adaptor any remedy for this please?
[16:50] <oCean> !afk > afk|vmangudi`
[16:52] <QUICKSTRE> FILM STREAMING! http://quickstream.altervista.org/
[16:52] <QUICKSTRE> FILM STREAMING! http://quickstream.altervista.org/
[16:52] <QUICKSTRE> FILM STREAMING! http://quickstream.altervista.org/
[16:52] <FloodBot1> QUICKSTRE: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:52] <becker_11> my sound had departed the building tonight after working flawlessly for nearly a month I have rebooted and checked everything I can think of with no luck
[16:52] <becker_11> does anyone have a suggestion on how to fix my sound please
[16:53] <mang0> popey: Did you get a chance to look at my bug report?
[16:54] <thomasb> hih there is ther somone who cab help me with grap?
[16:54] <becker_11> thomasb, grep?
[16:54] <edbian> you mean grep?
[16:54] <d3ngar> Hi there
[16:54] <unreal-dude> why does ssh die every time using "sudo service ssh restart" ? is there an issue with restarting services?
[16:54] <d3ngar> My Ubuntu system keep crashing under mysterious circumstances
[16:54] <thomasb> yea grep
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> becker_11: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> d3ngar: have you tested your RAM using memtest?
[16:54] <dr_willis> unreal-dude:  because its stopping, then restarting the service.
[16:55] <d3ngar> I have not
[16:55] <mrbkap_> For dual-booting OSX/Ubuntu, where should grub go?
[16:55] <unreal-dude> but it never comes back
[16:55] <d3ngar> I wanted to post dmesg output
[16:55] <becker_11> ActionParsnip, okay but what happens after I remove pulseaudio
[16:55] <dr_willis> unreal-dude:  check the logs, enable verbose logging perhaps.
[16:55] <unreal-dude> i cant figure out why its failing to start
[16:55] <edbian> unreal-dude, stop it, then start it and read errors
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> becker_11: pulseaudio isn't removed, the process is merely killed, it will restart after a few seconds
[16:55] <becker_11> ActionParsnip, okay I'll try it
[16:56] <d3ngar> ActionParsnip: Namely here: http://pastebin.com/x8pqPWgN
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> unreal-dude: try stop then start
[16:56] <sherry> Hello
[16:57] <d3ngar> ActionParsnip: How to do the memtest?
[16:57] <edbian> d3ngar, boot, press shift during boot, choose memtest
[16:57] <d3ngar> ta
[16:58] <becker_11> ActionParsnip, Thankyou so much that worked perfectly
[16:58] <colton_> a
[16:58] <d3ngar> However, I'm not sure if the dell_wmi: Received unknown WMI event (0x11) doesn't have anything ot do with it
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> becker_11: np :), you just gave the sound default settings. helps a lot
[17:01] <becker_11> ActionParsnip, I've saved it too an evernote note so it's ready if I ever need it again
[17:01] <colton_> a
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> becker_11: could make it a script :)
[17:03] <becker_11> ActionParsnip, to run at startup you mean?
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> becker_11: no, just to run when needed
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> becker_11: or make an alias instead
[17:04] <becker_11> ActionParsnip, I guess I could
[17:04] <becker_11> ActionParsnip, I'm better with aliases
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> becker_11: see if you need it again, might not be required
[17:05] <doriad_> I currently have 2 monitors setup to be an extended desktop. Is there anyway I can make a third "virtual" display (that I can't see) that is an actual second desktop (not an extension)? I need to run code that pops up a window every few seconds but I don't want it stealing the focus of my work environment
[17:05] <mononofu_> I have problem when installing php5 for apache - it wants to remove a lot of packages: http://pastebin.com/R9YNjC95
[17:06] <mononofu_> which it absolutely shouldn't
[17:06] <mononofu_> using ubuntu 11.10 x64
[17:06] <edbian> doriad_, I'm guessing it's possible with some serious hacking of unity / gnome
[17:06] <doriad_> edbian, how about a mouse click? haha
[17:07] <edbian> doriad_, umm, maybe try using a GUI that doesn't loose focus when a new windows comes up
[17:07] <becker_11> How easy is it to remove unity from U11.10 and install Gnome 3 instead?
[17:08] <edbian> doriad_, also, there is some CLI thing you can use to click the mouse / move the mouse around.  Maybe you could hack up some script
[17:08] <unreal-dude> verbose logging is not getting me anything from ssh, it gives "terminated with status 255"
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> becker_11: unity uses Gnome3 as it;s DE if you are using Oneiric
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> becker_11: Unity isn't a DE
[17:09] <edbian> doriad_, called xdotool
[17:09] <edbian> ActionParsnip, what is unity?
[17:09] <pangolin> a shell
[17:09] <pangolin> !unity
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> edbian: it's a shell
[17:09] <edbian> cool
[17:10] <becker_11> ActionParsnip, okay I didn't know that so is it possible to get vanilla gnome 3 sans unity?
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> edbian: you can install LXDE, then run Unity on that if you want
[17:10] <edbian> ActionParsnip, cool
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> becker_11: there is a method to make it look like Gnome2 if you wish
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> becker_11: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-make-ubuntu-11-10-look-and-feel-like-gnome-2/
[17:11] <Pickleface> hello
[17:11] <Pickleface> I just installed how do I see what windows I have open ? I'm not used to this
[17:11] <Pickleface> and firefox dosent have any volume
[17:11] <pangolin> alt-tab
[17:12] <edbian> Pickleface, any volume?
[17:12] <edbian> Pickleface, firefox is not 3 dimensional
[17:12] <Pickleface> sound?
[17:12] <CoolCoder> any please help to remove all other instance of mysql from my ubuntu. i am getting a message on lampp start "XAMPP: XAMPP-MySQL is not running." because some other mysql is running
[17:12] <edbian> Pickleface, haha, ohhh
[17:12] <edbian> Pickleface, do other apps have sound?
[17:12] <becker_11> ActionParsnip, thanks I'll check it out
[17:12] <Pickleface> I dont have any other apps
[17:12] <Pickleface> well I dont think I do
[17:12] <Pickleface> :S
[17:13] <edbian> Pickleface, click the ubuntu icon, search banshee
[17:15] <steelbox> hi there!
[17:16] <Pickleface> edbian: erm nothing showed up
[17:16] <steelbox> I have a laptop under Jaunty and I have some difficulties to connect to my routeur in WPA mode. The system ask me several times the key. Help is welcome!
[17:17] <edbian> is banshee installed in Ubuntu by default?
[17:17] <pangolin> in 11.10 it is
[17:18] <pangolin> Pickleface: open a terminal and run: lsb_release  -a
[17:18] <pangolin> what is the output?
[17:20] <mobius420> edbian,  it was on my notebook after installing natty 11.04
[17:20] <edbian> mobius420, banshee?
[17:21] <Pickleface> how do I get to terminal?
[17:21] <edbian> Pickleface, click the ubuntu icon on the unity bar, search for terminal
[17:21] <steelbox> does anybody knows where can I get iso images for dell laptops beyond jaunty?
[17:22] <mobius420> edbian,  yes
[17:22] <Pickleface> I open search type something andlike nothing shows up
[17:22] <Pickleface> do I have to wait a few minutes ?
[17:23] <Pickleface> I click on the dash home thing right ?
[17:23] <mobius420> Pickleface,  if you are not comfortable in unity desktop , you can boot to the classic ubuntu
[17:23] <Pickleface> mobius420:  how?
[17:24] <edbian> Pickleface, what does your desktop look like?
[17:24] <Pickleface> erm on the side theres a bunch of icons
[17:24] <Pickleface> left side
[17:24] <Pickleface> I liked the old one better even though I only tried it for a few minutes
[17:24] <pangolin> Pickleface: ctrl-alt-t should open a terminal
[17:24] <mobius420> just log out of your current session, the you will be presented with the user selection login screen at the bottom there will be a small menu, change that menu from unity to "classic" then re log in
[17:24] <ADD_nauseam> O!O
[17:24] <edbian> Pickleface, like this: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&cp=9&gs_id=12&xhr=t&q=ubuntu+11.10&biw=1024&bih=481&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=QKL8TuuZJJKosAKvg_DLCA
[17:24] <edbian> ?
[17:24] <ADD_nauseam> hi Pickleface
[17:25] <mobius420> Pickleface,  just log out of your current session, then you will be presented with the user selection login screen at the bottom there will be a small menu, change that menu from unity to "classic" then re log in
[17:26] <myk_robinson> need some terminal love. I need a command to recursively move all files from multiple subfolders into a parent folder. Any help?
[17:26] <yeehaw> myk_robinson: mv -r * ../
[17:26] <mobius420> :D
[17:27] <sinosoidal> hi. can someone tell me how does a debian package specifies an icon and a screenshot for the software center? i have already inspected other packages control files and google about it and can't find anything.
[17:27] <Khas> Is there a way to install a single package from precise onto maverick?
[17:27] <mobius420> Khas,   alien maybe?
[17:28] <myk_robinson> yeehaw: I recovered some data from a hard drive using photorec, and dumped it into a folder named Recovered. Problem is , photorec made a few hundred subfolders... So if the directory is /home/Desktop/Recovered, your commend will work? Unsure
[17:28] <xangua> Khas: please do not mix repositories
[17:28] <Khas> When do packages get updated for previous releases then?
[17:29] <xangua> !latest | Khas
[17:30] <mobius420> I'm trying to determine if I can use my touchpad pointer's dual touch scrolling capability in linux
[17:30] <mobius420> it's the touchpad on an inspiron 15R
[17:30] <Khas> Ok, that's fine, but if a later release has a stable package, when will that package get updated for previous releases?
[17:30] <b1tbkt> anyone have any thoughts on how to go about creating a vm during OS install? I'd like to use the packages from the install disk for 'installing' the vm. This should just require some preseed trickery.
[17:32] <Pickelface> erm
[17:33] <johnjohn101> i hope there are some fixes for unity coming up. I keep having to log out as i lose keyboard and mouse
[17:33] <Pickelface> I could not see a menu
[17:33] <Pickelface> I saw one set of options it had gnome classic or gnome 2d effects
[17:33] <Pickelface> thats its
[17:33] <Pickelface> -s
[17:33] <mobius420> Pickleface,  that's okay  I failed to mention the menu will not appear until you actually click your user name ONE time
[17:33] <mobius420> so it goes like this
[17:34] <Pickelface> okay, I'll try it now
[17:35] <tjingboem> which program converts eps to jpg/png?
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> tjingboem: maybe imagemagick
[17:37] <BarkingFish> tjingboem: GIMP will also convert eps
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> b1tbkt: you can use the install CD as a source to install from if that's what yuo mean
[17:39] <tjingboem> thanks both, i'll check them out :)
[17:40] <sinosoidal> does anybody know how does Ubuntu Software Center fetches an icon for a package?
[17:44] <forgotten> is there a way to dumb down what tcpdump will show you?  I am getting way to much information no matter what options I try.  I really only want to see important initiated incoming tcp connections
[17:47] <vip_> hello. I using chromium.On few websides I cant watching any flash movies because local magazine adobe flash player is locked.what I need to do???
[17:47] <zleslie> Hi
[17:47] <zleslie> Does anyone actually like upstart?
[17:47] <zleslie> It drives me crazy.  How do you get a useful exit code out of it?
[17:48] <EdwardL> vip_ Firefox?
[17:49] <vip_> chromium
[17:49] <glorf> I've never tried to get an exist code out of Upstart.  I like the new interface it's given us for controlling services (new to Ubuntu, that is) but I haven't developed for it myself.
[17:49] <zleslie> Found this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/552786
[17:50] <glorf> Bug status = "unassigned".  Nice.
[17:51] <zleslie> Ah, so nobody cares
[17:51] <zleslie> wonderful
[17:51] <glorf> Rather, status is "triaged".  Assigned to is "unassigned".  Same deal.
[17:51] <OerHeks> !patience | zleslie
[17:52] <theadmin> zleslie: Why not install another initsystem if you hate Upstart?
[17:52] <zleslie> I do.  I am trying to code for ubuntu
[17:52] <GLaDOSv2> hi, i am on a shared hosting server running debian, and I want to share a file between multiple accounts. so say I have '/home/domain1/file.ext' and I want it to be read on '/home/domain2/some_script.sh', what should I do? would simply chmodding the file help?
[17:52] <theadmin> GLaDOSv2: Uuuuh we're not #debian
[17:52] <Palanthas> Can anyone tell me how to change the workspaces in Unity (11.10)? Want to go from the default 2x2 to 1x4 but can't find the settings anywhere and google for once is not helping me... (sadly not in front of the computer in question right now though)
[17:52] <GLaDOSv2> theadmin: I know, but it would be the same for ubuntu and #ubuntu is far more populated
[17:53] <theadmin> GLaDOSv2: You chmod it properly and make a symlink, so there. Also, nice nickname.
[17:53] <GLaDOSv2> theadmin: heh, thanks :)
[17:53] <glorf> GLaDOSv2: would a symbolic link with proper permissions help there?
[17:53] <GLaDOSv2> glorf: probably, what permissions would I need to set?
[17:53] <theadmin> GLaDOSv2: I didn't think we had Portal fans round here :D Mind if I pm you?
[17:53] <Defusal> hi everyone
[17:53] <GLaDOSv2> theadmin: not at all
[17:54] <zleslie> Its just nearly a two year old bug and nobody is doing anything with it.  This is a simple thing.  Make upstart return proper exit codes, like every other unix program has done since the dawn of time.
[17:54] <JoshuaP> Could have done a better job with oneiric
[17:54] <glorf> It would probably be best to set the group permissions to read (or read + write if appropriate) and chgrp to a group all the right accounts belong in.
[17:54] <vip_> thanks, I gonna try
[17:54] <mohawck> hi
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> JoshuaP: works fine here
[17:55] <mohawck> im trying install grass 6.4
[17:55] <Defusal> I have used mount --bind to mount a directory to one inside a home directory, which is accessable via ftp, when I go into the directory, it shows the file thats in it, but if I try access the file, it says it doesn't exist, can anyone tell me why?
[17:55] <mohawck> can anybody help me?
[17:55] <shomon> hi, I tried installing skype from the deb on the skype site, and checked mute isn't on in alsamixer.. but I can't get the microphone to work in skype
[17:55] <forgotten> can you compile a kernel on another system if u know what options it needs?  then copy it over?
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> mohawck: how are you trying to install it
[17:55] <GLaDOSv2> glorf: and what if I only want it for one single other user, could I then just group to that user ?
[17:55] <shomon> or anywhere for that matter
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> shomon: does the mic work in other apps?
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> shomon: beat me to it
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> shomon: is it a laptop or a branded pc?
[17:56] <shomon> laptop
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> shomon: what make and model?
[17:56] <shomon> it's an acer g62
[17:57] <mohawck> ActionParsnip... software.opensuse.org - get it - grass - one click install
[17:57] <mohawck> done nothing
[17:57] <glorf> GLaDOSv2: I think you can technically do that with ACL's, but I've never used those.  I usually just create a new group with the right members (in your case there will only be two) and assign the permissions based on the group.  If you want to use ACL's, you might start here: http://www.suse.de/~agruen/acl/linux-acls/online/
[17:58] <GLaDOSv2> glorf: shared hosting so I can't greate a group, i'll check out ACL though, thanks
[17:59] <glorf> GLaDOSv2: Sure.  Have a great day.  Gotta get back to work.  ;)
[17:59] <Edico> hi
[18:00] <mohawck> hi, can here anyone help me to install GRASS 6.4?
[18:01] <Edico> I want to remove a package. how can I remove all the other packages installed when I've installed the package?
[18:02] <JoshuaP> ActionParsnip, stability shouldn't get in the way of performance.
[18:02] <JoshuaP> i mean vice versa :P
[18:02] <dr_willis> :)
[18:03] <Jordan_U> mohawck: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[18:03] <JoshuaP> Performance shouldnt get in the way of stability**
[18:04] <shomon> ActionParsnip, sorry you got cut off there -it's an acer g62
[18:04] <Jordan_U> !pm | mohawck
[18:05] <Jordan_U> mohawck: sudo apt-get install grass
[18:05] <mohawck> thanks
[18:05] <Pickleface> Erm okay so I got it back to the old version thanks to those that helped :0
[18:05] <mohawck> ill try it, and sorry for me, for being noob
[18:05] <mohawck> :D
[18:06] <Pickleface> How do I fix the sound prpoblem ?
[18:07] <TheLastBaron> #gentoo
[18:07] <fivedaysahead> how do i kill a startx?
[18:08] <BluesKaj> sudo service gdm or lightdm stop
[18:09] <helo1> helloo
[18:10] <helo1> Got another one for you guys
[18:10] <soreau> BluesKaj: If you use startx, many times it starts X without a dm
[18:10] <helo1> can NetSurf be run from a CLI ubuntu server installation?
[18:10] <Pickleface> my sound wont work can anyone help me
[18:10] <BluesKaj> sore yes , but stopping X doesn't work if gdm or a dm is running
[18:10] <BluesKaj> soreau, ^
[18:11] <soreau> fivedaysahead: You can do 'ps ax|grep X' to see what X servers are running and kill the one you want with 'kill $PID' where $PID is the process id of the running X process
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> !details| Pickleface
[18:11] <soreau> ! work | BluesKaj
[18:11] <Jordan_U> mohawck: You're welcome.
[18:12] <soreau> BluesKaj: If there was an X session running on display :1.0, you could kill it without stopping the dm for :0.0
[18:12] <Pickleface> My problem is there is no sound coming from my speakers I'm running ubuntu v 11.10 when I try to play a youtube video on firefox the sound does not work
[18:12] <BluesKaj> soreau, get out of town with your factoid ...I said no such thing '
[18:12] <quiescens> mm, BluesKaj was trying to give someone an answer, not asking a question
[18:12] <soreau> BluesKaj: You said (and I quote) "stopping X doesn't work..."
[18:13] <soreau> BluesKaj: You didn't even specify what method you'd used to stop X in that scenario. If you kill the process, it will die
[18:13] <soreau> especially if you're demanding about it
[18:13] <Pickleface> ;\
[18:13] <BluesKaj> soreau, and i also said if the dm is runnung
[18:13] <MonkeyDust> Pickleface  in a terminal, type alsamixer
[18:13] <Edico> how can I remove the dependencies of a package after I removed the package?
[18:14] <soreau> BluesKaj: Well with all due respect, you don't know what the hell you're talking about ;)
[18:14] <MonkeyDust> Edico  try apt-get autoremove
[18:14] <Pickleface> MonkeyDust: okay I did alot of bars and stuff came up o-o
[18:14] <BluesKaj> sorea , you have no respect
[18:14] <theadmin> Edico: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[18:14] <black_> when killing X shouldnt you use -SIGHUP ?
[18:14] <Jordan_U> soreau: Please watch your language and attitude.
[18:14] <BluesKaj> soreau, ^
[18:15] <soreau> Jordan_U: I can see it fine from here
[18:15] <soreau> There's nothing wrong with either
[18:15] <black_> i love my service.sh script.
[18:16] <black_> if my server crashes, once it reboots it text me with the error.
[18:16] <MonkeyDust> Pickleface  no MM below those bars?
[18:16] <TiMiDo> black_, paste the errors
[18:16] <black_> there is none.
[18:16] <TiMiDo> lol
[18:16] <TiMiDo> check /var/log/
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> soreau: hahha. Just because you say 'with all due respect' doesn't mean you can say what you like :D
[18:16] <black_> im just jabbering about my service.sh shell script
[18:16] <soreau> ActionParsnip: meh, drop it
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> soreau: great film
[18:17] <Pickleface> MonkeyDust: yeah, no MM
[18:17] <soreau> ActionParsnip: I don't watch films
[18:17] <soreau> they're a waste of time
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> soreau: oh, that's all from a film, your line + my line
[18:17] <BluesKaj> !daemon | fivedaysahead
[18:17] <soreau> ActionParsnip: more specifically, I don't watch films based on fiction
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> soreau: gotcha
[18:18] <soreau> BluesKaj: Looks like you've got some daemons in the closet ;)
[18:21] <Pickleface> anyone?....
[18:22] <soreau> Pickleface: Does sound work for at all for anything?
[18:22] <TheLastBaron> irssi
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> Pickleface: do you get sound in any apps at all?
[18:22] <soreau> heh
[18:22] <LucidGuy> How does one know what x display they are using?  Need to specify X display in a command ..
[18:22] <DrPenguin> LucidGuy: maybe im being naive here.. but i think its 0:0 generaly
[18:22] <soreau> LucidGuy: 'ps ax|grep X' or 'echo $DISPLAY' from a terminal emulator in X
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> LucidGuy: export DISPLAY=somethinghere
[18:22] <DrPenguin> err.. 0.0
[18:22] <soreau> DrPenguin: :0.0
[18:22] <Pickleface> Well I only tried for a youtube video and I dont know what apps are meant to make sounds because I just got ubuntu yesterday :x
[18:22] <DrPenguin> YEAH that
[18:23] <DrPenguin> I knew those syms were in there somewhere
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> Pickleface: try media apps and play some mp3s and such
[18:23] <soreau> ! sound | Pickleface
[18:23] <LucidGuy> soreau, $DISPLAY does the trick, but need the display of another user logged in.
[18:24] <soreau> LucidGuy: Then use the former
[18:24] <soreau> LucidGuy: If there are only two X servers running, you can use process of elimination to figure out which it is
[18:26] <fivedaysahead> is there away to remotely see tty like X11vnc? but for tty? anyone know any program
[18:26] <black_> use watch.
[18:26] <black_> watch tty0
[18:26] <fivedaysahead> ooooh and i do that via ssh??
[18:27] <black_> yeah
[18:27] <fivedaysahead> sweeet thanks black
[18:27] <black_> welcome.
[18:27]  * soreau watches black_ 
[18:27] <fivedaysahead> tty0 not found
[18:27] <fivedaysahead> ah
[18:27] <black_> use their bash process. run it as root.
[18:28] <fivedaysahead> will try thanks
[18:28] <black_> for example, if joe is on tty9, then you would watch /bin/bash on tty9 pid.
[18:28] <grafan> LucidGuy: You can also do a "ps -axwwwe" which will show you the environment for every command running - look for the DISPLAY that isn't the same as yours.  You can get fancier and look for a specific user if you want.
[18:28] <black_> so sudo watch /bin/bash (pid of bash for user joe)
[18:28] <pangolin> soreau: Please keep the off topic comments to zero.
[18:28] <LucidGuy> thanks
[18:29] <soreau> pangolin: They are already
[18:29] <Gamoder> hi everyone, I got the following problem: Just a few minutes ago, "half" of my system freezed: nm-applet, as well as opera didn't respond any longer, I could not kill some processes, could not shutdown - and when running gnome-system-monitor, it started, but it didn't react to anything
[18:29] <soreau> pangolin: How about you quit picking on me, please
[18:29] <Gamoder> I will provide a dmesg-pastebin because I think there might be some "important" information ther
[18:29] <grafan> LucidGuy: You probably will also need the other user to grant access - you can look up xauth.
[18:30] <DrPenguin> Gamoder: Im guessing they are defunct?
[18:30] <Gamoder> DrPenguin: What do you mean by "they"?
[18:30] <Mrpickleface> g
[18:30] <DrPenguin> Gamoder: the processes you cant kill?
[18:30] <Xeli> Hello, I'm having problems with my printer. It's a samsung ml-1675 using the unified printer driver. The printer indicates it keeps recieving more data from the PC
[18:30] <Mrpickleface> hello?
[18:30] <soreau> pangolin: That is completely unwarranted
[18:30] <Xeli> does anyone know how to troubleshoot this?
[18:30] <pangolin> soreau: I asked you nice. You are not special I pick on every body equally.
[18:30] <imark> can i ask what people think is the best app in the usc for photo organizing/veiwing, i find shotwell no better than just using nautilus really
[18:30] <Gamoder> nm-applet itself seems to work, all other processes as well, I rather guess it might be a problem with one core overheating/some scheduler deadlock or sth. else
[18:30] <Mrpickleface> I think I justgot lagged out, anyways my sound isent working anymore, how do I get to the volume applet?
[18:31] <soreau> pangolin: Well I am asking you nicely to knock it off. You're making a mountain out of a mole hill. Now please stop picking on me
[18:31] <pangolin> soreau: if you have an issue with your removal join #ubuntu-ops
[18:31] <xangua> Mrpickleface: it's on the right up corner
[18:31] <pangolin> soreau: I am telling you to change your attitude.
[18:31] <pangolin> soreau: or I will ban you.
[18:32] <Mrpickleface> my right up corner is blank
[18:32] <soreau> pangolin: And I am telling you there is no attitude. You're making false claims and threatening me for absolutely no reason
[18:32] <Mrpickleface> nvm
[18:32] <Gamoder> oh no
[18:32] <Mrpickleface> I see applications and places
[18:32] <soreau> now please let's get back to support
[18:32] <Gamoder> old dmesgs are not saved?
[18:32] <Gamoder> Damn, I should have done that
[18:33] <Gamoder> some related information was shown in dmesg just when the problems appeard, but I can't find this information any longer (not in dmesg and not in dmesg.0)
[18:33] <quiescens> Gamoder: check /var/log/dmesg.*
[18:33] <quiescens> Gamoder: there is also the possibility that it was an i/o problem which might have made it impossible to log correctly
[18:34] <Gamoder> it was something about that many processes were stalled for 120 seconds
[18:34] <Gamoder> or not repsonding or sth like that
[18:34] <quiescens> Gamoder: always a fun thingy when trying to debug a freeze or crash, when the logs can't save properly and then you have no errors to look at
[18:34] <Gamoder> and there was a call trace, but I can't remember any details (hoped to be able to get this information after a restart)
[18:34] <Mrpickleface> soreau: sorry I got d/c'd earliar, what did u want me to do ?
[18:35] <soreau> ! sound | Mrpickleface
[18:35] <Mrpickleface> soreau: okay where is the volume applet ? under places or applications I dont see it anywhere
[18:36] <black_> ew, python!
[18:36] <black_> yuckie.
[18:36] <black_> :P
[18:36] <soreau> Mrpickleface: try running either 'alsamixer' or 'gnome-volume-control'
[18:36] <soreau> Mrpickleface: from your terminal
[18:36] <Mrpickleface> how do I run it on my terminal?
[18:37] <rhizmoe> um...weird. what qualifies as "whois -a" on ubuntu now?
[18:37] <soreau> Mrpickleface: Just open a terminal and type 'alsamixer' without quotes and press enter
[18:37] <soreau> ! terminal | Mrpickleface
[18:37] <soreau> Mrpickleface: You probably can use Alt+F2 then type 'gnome-terminal' (again without quotes)
[18:38] <Mrpickleface> soreau: okay its open I see bar
[18:38] <Mrpickleface> *bars
[18:38] <black_> my fingers hurt.
[18:39] <soreau> Mrpickleface: In alsamixer, use arrow keys to navigate, 'm' to (un)mute channels and F6 to choose the sound device
[18:39] <black_> okay, how do i add a line to crontab without doing: crontab -e, or crontab -l > file; echo "$LINE" >> file; crontab -r; crontab file ?
[18:39] <Mrpickleface> soreau: a really high static sound is coming from my speakers now
[18:40] <soreau> Mrpickleface: Also check gnome-volume-control which is more self explanatory
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> Mrpickleface: or press CTRL+Alt+t
[18:41] <Aliv3> hey wubi. i already have iso image installed and don't want to dl it again. how do I use my current one
[18:41] <soreau> Mrpickleface: (CTRL+Alt+t is another shortcut to open a terminal)
[18:42] <Mrpickleface> soreau: erm how do I get to gnome volume control? alasmixer I messed with some settings  and then I had a really high static noise coming from my speakers then I turned it back down :X
[18:42] <dragonslay> Aliv3: mount it with daemon tools and run the wubi inside the iso
[18:42] <soreau> Mrpickleface: Press Esc to exit alsamixer, then just type gnome-volume-control in your terminal
[18:42] <share> "A partition table was detected - write benchmarking requires the disk to be completely empty"
[18:42] <share> ??
[18:42] <share> the "disk" USB drive is completely empty.
[18:43] <Aliv3> ok
[18:43] <dragonslay> !who
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> share: but is there a partition on it?
[18:43] <share> ActionParsnip: no, I've deleted it.
[18:43] <DrPenguin> share: there could be stuff there you cant see. if you dd /dev/zero to it it will ensure its empty
[18:43] <Mrpickleface> soreau: erm..nmothing happend ?
[18:43] <black_> share, use dd and newfs on it.
[18:43] <black_> ;)
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> share: i suggest you check, you could eject the disk, then pull it out then push it back in
[18:44] <share> DrPenguin: how can I see if there's something on it. I've used gparted
[18:44] <Aliv3> thanks (used powerISO)
[18:44] <soreau> share: Maybe not? try fdisk -l /dev/usbnode (replacing usbnode with the real node name for the usb stick)
[18:44] <share> soreau: ;)
[18:44] <Mrpickleface> soreau: says command not found
[18:44] <DrPenguin> share: gparted wont show you partitions that were deleted but still exist, you would need to use something like testdisk
[18:44] <soreau> Mrpickleface: hmm
[18:44] <soreau> !find gnome-volume-control
[18:44] <dragonslay> share: use with sudo
[18:44] <soreau> Mrpickleface: Are you using gnome?
[18:45] <Mrpickleface> soreau: yeah
[18:45] <RadiumOxide> I'm making a bootable USB of the chrome OS. Can I use ext4 as the USB's filesystem or does it have to be FAT?
[18:45] <Mrpickleface> soreau: I think 11.10 ubuntu switched it from the unity thing to gnome
[18:45] <share> here's the output using fdisk http://pastebin.com/gSY3t0ci
[18:45] <soreau> Mrpickleface: Make sure you haven't typoed.. try gnome-volum<tab> to auto complete it
[18:45] <DrPenguin> RadiumOxide: thats not a question for here
[18:45] <LucidGuy> Anyone successful at using gxmessage?  Simply trying to send a user a message..  X forwarding simply sends the window to my X session obviously, but trying to send to a specific X display (0) and receive unable to initializse GTK
[18:46] <RadiumOxide> DrPenguin What's the correct channel for filesystem help?
[18:46] <soreau> RadiumOxide: Indeed, maybe try ##linux
[18:46] <Mrpickleface> soreau: not working
[18:46] <share> ActionParsnip: is it empty? http://pastebin.com/gSY3t0ci
[18:46] <DrPenguin> RadiumOxide: you want  Chrome help, not FS
[18:47] <DrPenguin> but I would suggest not using EXT4, you want to minimize writes to your USB drive
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> share: looks empty to me
[18:47] <soreau> Mrpickleface: Alright, let me check something
[18:47] <RadiumOxide> DrPenguin Well it's not really todo with Chrome it's more about if I can use ext4 for a bootable USB
[18:47] <Mrpickleface> soreau: okay!
[18:47] <dragonslay> RadiumOxide: fat is good
[18:47] <share> ActionParsnip: Im trying to do write benchmarking using Disk Utility
[18:48] <share> Disk Utility 2.30.1 = palimptest
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> share: tried hdparm or will that not run on usb devices?
[18:48] <share> ActionParsnip: im gonna try.
[18:49] <soreau> Mrpickleface: I guess they changed it in gnome3 but I don't know what it's called now..
[18:49] <soreau> Mrpickleface: Anyway, if you hear static from your main device, this could indicate a driver issue
[18:49] <Mrpickleface> soreau: o
[18:49] <soreau> Mrpickleface: Is there a volume icon in your panel?
[18:49] <Mrpickleface> soreau: well I heard static when I messed with some stuff in the alasmixer thing you showed me
[18:49] <Mrpickleface> Mrpickleface: panel?
[18:50] <w3bg33k> I have a VM that I need to add disk space to...it's running Ubuntu 10.04 (TurnKey LAMP Stack)...I just added a new hard disk, but I'm not sure how to mount that drive...any suggestions?
[18:50] <Mrpickleface> Mrpickleface: I only see applications and places
[18:50] <soreau> huh
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> !away > vishwa|away
[18:51] <share> ActionParsnip: hdparm -tT works with usb ... didnt try to write
[18:51] <soreau> ActionParsnip: Do you use 11.10 default?
[18:51] <soreau> I installed xubuntu this time around
[18:51] <Mrpickleface> soreau: erm..I guess I dont see the volume thing..all I see is application and places
[18:51] <soreau> gnome3 isn't very intuitive
[18:51] <DrPenguin> w3bg33k: you need to attach that virtual disk to your VM from your hypervisor, and then you can mount it
[18:51] <soreau> Mrpickleface: Yea I know.. trying to figure out how to help you
[18:52] <trism> Mrpickleface: gnome-control-center sound
[18:52] <soreau> I'm starting to get curious so maybe I'll boot a live session of 11.10 and see what it looks like
[18:52] <soreau> Mrpickleface: brb
[18:52] <Mrpickleface> soreau: okay
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> soreau: Precise but its the same difference, wassup?
[18:52] <Mrpickleface> trism: it worked , thanks
[18:53] <share> dragonslay: gskudo palimpsest
[18:53] <share> gksudo*
[18:54] <share> still doesn't work.
[18:55] <Mrpickleface> nothing in gnome sound control thing seems to help..all the settings were at around 50%
[18:55] <Mrpickleface> brb
[18:56] <black_> using perl, how do i split a line longer then 160 chars?
[18:57] <DrPenguin> that sounds like a question for #perl
[18:57] <black_> or i could use awk.
[18:57] <black_> well, its going to be used in bash :P
[18:57] <black_> i guess ill go somewhere else
[18:57] <DrPenguin> either way its not an ubuntu question
[18:58] <black_> i know, but was hoping someone writes in perl
[18:58] <black_> now to make a crontab entry to send a daily report of sysinfo :)
[19:00] <hkjh> hello i want to ask how to easily tile opened programs in gnome
[19:01] <soreau> Mrpickleface: Yea so I guess in gnome3 you start gnome-control-center then click Sound in the hardware section
[19:01] <soreau> but you probably already figured that out
[19:01]  * soreau is instantly reminded of what an abomination unity is
[19:02] <kristiano1> hey guys
[19:02] <theadmin> soreau: Unity is built on top of Gnome, so you still do the same thing
[19:02] <kristiano1> how do apply the drivers for an i5 intel cpu/video card?
[19:03] <soreau> theadmin: No, it is not built on top of gnome, it's built on top of compiz
[19:03] <soreau> and quite the failure
[19:03] <theadmin> soreau: It's built on GNOME libs, including the tons of GNOME tools
[19:03] <theadmin> soreau: That includes gnome-control-center, too.
[19:03] <soreau> theadmin: Look, don't start with me
[19:04] <soreau> theadmin: unity is compiz rebranded in a horrible fashion. Period.
[19:04] <theadmin> soreau: Heh, I just don't want people who don't know what the hell they are talking about in the channel.
[19:04] <SheikYerBouti> unity = no
[19:04] <pangolin> blog about it
[19:04] <kristiano1> anyone know how i can make xorg point to the driver for i5 intel cpu/video card?
[19:04] <black_> * */6 * * ./script.sh is 6AM daily?
[19:04] <soreau> theadmin: Then leave
[19:04] <soreau> not my problem
[19:04] <pangolin> soreau: stop.
[19:04]  * theadmin puts soreau on /ignore
[19:04] <pangolin> theadmin: drop it please
[19:05] <DrPenguin> kristiano1: you shouuldnt have to do anything. if X is auto probing your system, it wil lfind the best driver available
[19:05] <DrPenguin> man.. the channel is angsty today
[19:05] <soreau> Jordan_U: pangolin: I was sited earlier for using the exact same statement earlier and theadmin can use it but it's not language
[19:05] <kristiano1> DrPenguin: the problem is i've gottten a new computer, and put in the disks of an old
[19:05] <kristiano1> DrPenguin: the old had nvidia
[19:05] <meway> Is there a way to monitor my cpu activity at all times like on fedora?
[19:06] <meway> they have a little green meter
[19:06] <DrPenguin> kristiano1: can you paste your Xorg.0.log? most likely you should have the intel package installed. .but I need to see
[19:06] <black_> gkrellmd
[19:06] <soreau> So what's with the double standard
[19:06] <DrPenguin> meway: conky isa nice touch
[19:06] <SheikYerBouti> meway~ conky?
[19:06] <DrPenguin> ^
[19:06] <kannan_> meway:conky
[19:06]  * meway looks up conky
[19:06] <meway> lol
[19:06] <pangolin> soreau: knock it the hell off. I am not in the mood for your attitude.
[19:06] <SheikYerBouti> lol.
[19:06] <theadmin> meway: conky, gkrellm, screenlets
[19:06] <kristiano1> DrPenguin: unfortounately this is on a media server, so i can't right now, but thanks!
[19:06] <meway> I can't find conky?
[19:06] <pangolin> one more offtopic word (I'll decide what is offtopic) and you are banned for a month
[19:06] <soreau> Jordan_U: See? Even pangolin used 'hell'. So why did you call me out for language earlier
[19:07] <kristiano1> DrPenguin: but shouldn't "addditional drivers" handle this normally?
[19:07] <llutz> black_: man 5 crontab
[19:07] <DrPenguin> kristiano1: drivers dont handle it, X does
[19:07] <kannan_> meway: apt-get install conky
[19:07] <kristiano1> DrPenguin: but isn't there a tool like "nvidia-xconfigure" for intel
[19:07] <black_> for 6 am, is it 06 or 6 ?
[19:07] <black_> thats what it doesnt explain
[19:07] <meway> deh >.<
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> black_: gnome-schedule  if you want a GUI to cron
[19:07] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[19:08] <llutz> black_: * */6 ... is every 6 hrs
[19:08] <DrPenguin> kristiano1: in this case no, Xorg -configure can do the trick.. but from what your saying it now sounds like you have an xorg.conf.. which is why your not using the intel driver most likely
[19:08] <meway> wooh that was fun
[19:08] <black_> thats what i thought.
[19:08] <pangolin> soreau: you have been in this channel long enough to know your attitude is not acceptable and to know how far you can push until we get sick of it. stop now so we don't have to resort to a ban.
[19:08] <soreau> Mrpickleface: Anyway, in the sound window of gnome-control-center, you can make sure you have the correct device selected and that it's listed
[19:08] <DrPenguin> I would need to see your xorg.conf.. but you probably need to create a new one and customize, or edit the existing one
[19:08] <meway> how do I use conky?
[19:09] <meway> nvm
[19:09] <SheikYerBouti> make a .conklyrc then conky -c /path/to/conky.rc
[19:09] <DrPenguin> meway: copy the conky.conf into your homedir, customize it, and run it
[19:09] <DrPenguin> you can do fancy crap like transparency and junk
[19:09] <soreau> pangolin: You guys are the one pushing my buttons. Now please quit picking on me. I don't care to deal with you guys, I just want to do ubuntu support
[19:09] <chemistree> ubuntu studio or ubuntu?
[19:09] <kristiano1> DrPenguin: so you're saying if i delete my xorg.conf, ubuntu might work it out itself (bc thats what i was thinking of doing)
[19:09] <meway> thx guys
[19:09] <w3bg33k> DrPenguin - it is already attached...I just need to figure out how to mount it....
[19:09] <DrPenguin> kristiano1: if you delete your xorg.conf, X will look at /etc/X11/xorg.d, and then probe the rest
[19:09] <chemistree> preference: ubuntu studio vs ubuntu
[19:09] <DrPenguin> w3bg33k: sudo fdisk -l, does it see it?
[19:10] <w3bg33k> sda1, 2 & 5
[19:10] <chemistree> **what is your preference: ubuntu studio vs ubuntu
[19:10] <NimeshNeema> good resource to learn about apt
[19:10] <DrPenguin> well.. it sees partitions from your one disk.. but if you attached another disk it sould come up as sdb
[19:11] <w3bg33k> DrPenguin - actually, i just saw sdb...how would i mount it?
[19:11] <DrPenguin> w3bg33k: aha! there we go, now does it JUST say sdb? or do you see partition nums
[19:12] <w3bg33k> DrPenguin - Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table
[19:12] <DrPenguin> w3bg33k: ok, your gonna need to use fdisk or gparted to make a partition on the disk, then we can mount it
[19:12] <meway> ok how do I move conky to the middle of my screen?
[19:13] <meway> its hidden by my bar on the left
[19:13] <DrPenguin> meway: edit your conkyrc file
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> meway: its in ~/.conkyrc
[19:13] <dragonslay> !conky
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> meway: edit the config file to what you desire
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> !away > seanr|away
[19:14] <dr_willis> conky homepage has massive amount of details on configruging conky
[19:14] <SheikYerBouti> meway~ lines like this. gap_x 232   gap_y 5
[19:14] <dr_willis> last i tried conky. it could have some quirks with the unity desktop icons.  (it would cover them up)
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> meway: the file is polled a bit so after you save the change, conky should change
[19:14] <w3bg33k> DrPenguin - ok...i'm using webmin for this server (it's a turnkey built vm)...going to see what i can find
[19:14] <meway> I can't find it
[19:15] <dr_willis> conky homepage tells you how to have conky generate a default .conkyrc  (or check conky --hel0
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> meway: run:  conky    in a terminal, it will say what config file is being used
[19:15] <dr_willis> conky homepage tells you how to have conky generate a default .conkyrc  (or check conky --help)
[19:15] <jmwpc> I'm attempting to rip a dvd on a headless ubuntu server from the command line, is it adequate it install the libdvdread4 package or is there more that must be installed to enable encrypted dvds to be read?
[19:15] <SheikYerBouti> jmcantrell~ libdvdcss-2 or something you need
[19:15] <meway> onky: desktop window (10000be) is subwindow of root window (c2)
[19:15] <meway> Conky: window type - desktop
[19:15] <meway> Conky: drawing to created window (0x4600001)
[19:15] <meway> Conky: drawing to single buffe
[19:15] <dragonslay> meway, read the documentation or try #conky
[19:15] <SheikYerBouti> jmwpc~ you need libdvdcss2 or such
[19:15] <Kull> meway: LOL conky fail
[19:16] <dr_willis> read the docs first.. :)  because #conky will tell you to do so.
[19:16] <brophat> i have cairo dock installed but i want to uninstall it
[19:16] <dr_willis> brophat:  and how did you install it?
[19:17] <brophat> dr_willis I forget but I probably did an apt-get
[19:17] <dr_willis> brophat:  then you use the pacakge manager tools to remove it.
[19:17] <dr_willis> synaptic, or apt-get or the software center
[19:17] <brophat> ok true
[19:17] <dr_willis> or others.. :)
[19:17] <radon-> Has anyone else had problems with slow Wifi on ubuntu 11.10 ??
[19:17] <DrPenguin> brophat: dpkg -l | grep dock, see if it  appears
[19:17] <DrPenguin> radon-: ive had issues with wifi until I switched to using wicd
[19:18] <radon-> DrPenguin: Wifi works but download speeds are really slow compared to Windows on this same laptop
[19:18] <SheikYerBouti> I have always had poor signal strength in ubuntu
[19:18] <mta`chrono> Hello! I'd like to install libgmp10:amd64 AND libgmp10:i386 but it seems to be unable to just install both.... what's going wrong?
[19:18] <brophat> DrPenguin yeah a bunch of stuff showed up
[19:18] <DrPenguin> mta`chrono: the i386 one is a 32bit library, you need the 32bit compatibilit ylib for an x64 systme
[19:19] <jmwpc> SheikYerBouti: I think I see what happened, it is part of the libdvdread4 package, but I didn't have the restricted-extras repo enabled so it didnt install
[19:19] <blackbox> I know the your history is stored in the ~/.bash-history file but I am wondering where a users history is stored in if I create them with no home directory? Anybody know?
[19:20] <mta`chrono> DrPenguin: isn't everything suffixed with :i386 for compatibility?
[19:20] <DrPenguin> blackbox: I think theres a global history file in etc
[19:20] <blackbox> let me check
[19:20] <DrPenguin> mta`chrono: nope.. that means its an i386 library, not a 32bit compatibility lib for x64
[19:20] <valters> jaa
[19:21] <dr_willis> blackbox:  most likely not saved at all. I think that file is actually written once the shell exist.. cant write..it just goes Poof...
[19:21] <dragonslay> blackbox: may be in /var
[19:21] <mta`chrono> DrPenguin: damn... do you know how to install Multiarch stuff?
[19:21] <dr_willis> a global history file? that would be ... weird...
[19:21] <DrPenguin> mta`chrono: I do on Arch Linux :P but not on ubuntu
[19:21] <DrPenguin> dr_willis: there are other global bash files if the one in ~ doesnt exist
[19:21] <radon-> Nope wicd didn't help me, speed is even slower... My wifi connection and especially the download speeds are very slow on ubuntu 11.10 x64, where could be the problem? Power management is off
[19:22] <DrPenguin> this is a common standard for many things , like openbox
[19:22] <dr_willis> DrPenguin:  but a hustory file is not the same as a config file.
[19:22] <DrPenguin> radon-: maybe your driver?
[19:22] <radon-> DrPenguin: How can I find it out if it's not good?
[19:22] <DrPenguin> dr_willis: a files a files a file
[19:22] <DrPenguin> radon-: try another one that works?
[19:22] <dragonslay> DrPenguin,  /etc only stores config files
[19:22] <Mrpickleface> dr_willis: hey, my speakers arent working ever since I installed ubuntu , can you help me?
[19:23] <dr_willis> DrPenguin:  a users history file would be in their home dir.. and it would be a big seucrity hole if others could get it.
[19:23] <DrPenguin> dr_willis: right
[19:23] <dr_willis> Mrpickleface:  i rarely mess with sound issues. rarely need to.
[19:23] <DrPenguin> but what I said, and I was JUST guessing, that there might be a global one for users that dont have one
[19:23] <DrPenguin> no need for ya to jump on me
[19:23] <Mrpickleface> DrPenguin: oh, ok
[19:23] <Matrixiumn> bye
[19:23] <radon-> What was the command which told me information about my wifi device?
[19:23] <dr_willis> using Bash history effectively -> http://talug.org/events/20030709/cmdline_history.html
[19:24] <DrPenguin> radon-: ifconfig will give ya some specific info, or lspci for the card name and model
[19:25] <dr_willis> ahh.. a better guide on bash history   http://www.catonmat.net/blog/the-definitive-guide-to-bash-command-line-history/
[19:25] <DrPenguin> I get a little nervous when a guide is called "the definitive blah", ive read alot of those which suck
[19:25] <blackbox> well , don't see any global history file for the history. I do see under /etc a few history files but those don't contain any of the users history. I am curious if it is even possible to mantain the users that have know home directory history?
[19:26] <blackbox> know --> no
[19:26] <trism> mta`chrono: it doesn't look like gmp supports multiarch until precise
[19:26] <dr_willis> blackbox:  it wouldent make sence to have a 'global' history file.
[19:27] <dr_willis> blackbox:  you want a preset history loaded each time the user logs in?
[19:27] <jmwpc> I figured out the dvd thing, there was an additional step to install libdvdcss https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[19:28] <blackbox> ya, understand that but I was wondering if their is away to have history for the users that don't have a ~/bash_history file (i.e ones that don't have a home directory)
[19:28] <w3bg33k> DrPenguin - i tried to format it using ext3, but said the disk was too big (50GB)...what else could I use?
[19:28] <besmir> hello everybody
[19:28] <besmir> can anyone help me about skype in linux
[19:28] <dr_willis> blackbox:  you could set their history file to be some other one.. but why would want to do so?
[19:28] <mta`chrono> trism: I think that primarily I didn't realized that :386 are REAL i386 packages. I'm using g++:i386 for targeting -m32. But this seems to be wrong, isn't it? g++-multilib is the right man, instead?
[19:29] <DrPenguin> w3bg33k: too.. big? ive had disks over 100G using ext3… but you could use ext4
[19:29] <Sidewinder1> w3bg33k, I don't understand that error message; I've formatted 1TB drives using ext3 file-system.
[19:29] <dr_willis> blackbox:  got 3tb ext3 i think...
[19:29] <escott> blackbox, do you really have users without a valid $HOME? I would expect most applications would fail to run correctly in that case
[19:29] <EvilResistance> how can I check the SMART stats on a hard drive?
[19:30] <escott> EvilResistance, smartctl command line tools smart-mon-tools package or the gui disk utility
[19:30] <EvilResistance> thanks
[19:30] <Sidewinder1> EvilResistance, Sytem-->Admin--. Disk Utility?
[19:30] <blackbox> Ok, true looking thru the /etc/addusers.conf that would allow you to do it for the users with out a home directory.
[19:30] <w3bg33k> DrPenguin - this is what I'm getting:  mkfs.ext4: inode_size (128) * inodes_count (0) too big for a filesystem with 0 blocks, specify higher inode_ratio (-i) or lower inode count (-N).
[19:30]  * Sidewinder1 Fumbel fingers, again.. :-(
[19:31] <DrPenguin> w3bg33k: ok so theres something it doesnt like about your rawdisk then
[19:31] <blackbox> No they don't fail to run at least the apps I want. Why would you think that? That would be based on the permissions not weather they have a home dir
[19:32] <trism> mta`chrono: yes, that should be the one
[19:32] <radon-> Is there a wireless connection monitor software? Which tells me the connection speed, if it has been down etc? Seems that my connection is some times normal and some times slow
[19:32] <blackbox> I can create a user with a home directory and add all the non-home dir users to that history file. As a work around thanks for the help
[19:32] <escott> blackbox, I know it can be done, its just odd. why not create a $HOME and revoke write permissions on it
[19:33] <blackbox> true just want to know all the ways and if it was possible
[19:33] <blackbox> I think your way is better in most cases
[19:34] <blackbox> but in tight situations it would save a little space
[19:34] <escott> blackbox, i think we are suggesting the same solution. a single "template" home shared by all but nobody has write permissions
[19:34] <blackbox> I agree now I see what you are saying
[19:35] <edbian> I haven't had any upgrades from ubuntu in the past 6 or 7 days.  Is this normal?
[19:35] <mta`chrono> re
[19:35] <blackbox> Curious from a security point of view is the ~/.bash_history file the only file to view what a user was doing at the command prompt or is their others?
[19:36] <escott> blackbox, if you want to get fancy (and avoid some complaints by applications) you could use some tricks to create unionfs or spawn a home folder in /tmp or ramdisk
[19:36] <xangua> there is syspeek and system load indicator radon- http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/list-of-application-indicators
[19:36] <lesshaste>  how can I get runsnakerun for lucid?
[19:36] <overclucker> blackbox: there are other ways
[19:36] <dr_willis> lesshaste:  and whats that exactly?
[19:36] <escott> blackbox, .bash_history is not a security tool. the user has complete control over it. for security you would need to have an auditing system in place
[19:36] <lesshaste> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/en/man1/runsnake.1.html
[19:37] <lesshaste> dr_willis: ^^
[19:37] <blackbox> but by default is it just that history file for most linux setups?
[19:37] <dr_willis> !find runsnake
[19:37] <lesshaste> !find runsnakerun
[19:37] <dr_willis> !find runsnake.1.html
[19:37] <lesshaste> a bad start :)
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> !find snake
[19:37] <dr_willis> Looks like its new for Percise..
[19:38] <lesshaste> dr_willis: hmm.. the 10.04 link at the top is misleading :)
[19:38] <Sidewinder1> edbian, Have you done the "sudo apt-get update", thing?
[19:38] <edbian> Sidewinder1, yes of course
[19:38] <edbian> Sidewinder1, I'm saying that there are no updates to be done
[19:38] <blackbox> do you have an example of an audit system I could download... are you just talking about thinks like IDS ,  snort ,...etc
[19:38] <overclucker> blackbox: swatch
[19:38] <edbian> Sidewinder1, Perhaps there is some website that catalogs all the updates?
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> blackbox: in what way do you want to audit the file?
[19:40] <escott> blackbox, a really serious system would hook into the kernel like apparmor or selinux to monitor and deny system calls. since any process can fork and exec you can't do much to prevent someone from running any executable they can find
[19:41] <Mrpickleface> how do I see what sound card I have ?
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> escott: you could chown and chmod stuff but it'd get messy
[19:41] <meway> oh gaud Kull
[19:41] <Sidewinder1> edbian, If you run update mgr., and it reports "Your system is up to date", with no error messages, you're probably OK. ;-)
[19:42] <blackbox> I am just curious from a hacking point of view if they where covering their tracks. They would have touch all the files they accessed back to the previous times, erase commands from the history file, and make sure the erased themselves from the  log files
[19:42] <lesshaste> why are packages "kept back"?
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> Mrpickleface: sudo lshw -C sound
[19:42] <edbian> Sidewinder1, yeah, but it's said that for the past week.  Which is unusual if my memory serves
[19:42] <lesshaste> e.g. "The following packages have been kept back:"
[19:42] <blackbox> Provided that they didn't have a IDS/IPS in place and didn't backup their logs remotely
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> lesshaste: because those packages are ready but the deps they need cannot be satisfied
[19:43] <Sidewinder1> edbian, I understand; I've had that happen from time-to-time, with no problems..
[19:43] <escott> ActionParsnip, yes and if they have a interpreter they can get around that. my point to blackbox is that there isn't any log of all "executed commands" that is useful
[19:43] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip: but that's not my experience at all
[19:43] <blackbox> this would be all for hidding your tracks. correct me if I am wrong
[19:43] <edbian> Sidewinder1, alright
[19:43] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip: if I just sudo apt-get install the kept back ones they don't complain about missing deps
[19:43] <Mrpickleface> ActionParsnip: can I pm you ?
[19:43] <llutz> blackbox: erase from bash_history: just "history -r" and in won't be stored at all (or unset HISTFILE)
[19:43] <edbian> Sidewinder1, I've been using ubuntu since 2007 and I don't remember such a long period of no updates
[19:43] <Sidewinder1> edbian, Especially since I'm an LTS kinda' guy.
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> lesshaste: until the deps are met, they will be he'd but other updates will be ok
[19:44] <edbian> Sidewinder1, mhmm
[19:44] <Sidewinder1> edbian, Hey, me too; since Gutsy!
[19:44] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip: this doesn't seem right.. I can explicity install them with no problem
[19:44] <edbian> Sidewinder1, fun!  :)
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> lesshaste: not sure tbh. I think it will
[19:44] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip: they just aren't installed by sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> lesshaste: will not install due to deps
[19:45] <Mrpickleface> ActionParsnip: ?
[19:45] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip: no that isn't right
[19:45] <meway> how do I move conky >.<
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> lesshaste: weird
[19:45] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip: I can explicitly install them with no problem
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> Mrpickleface: sure. No idea why but go ahead
[19:45] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/18330 has an explanation
[19:45] <edbian> meway, sudo apt-get remove conky
[19:46] <meway> edbian, was just about to :)
[19:46] <edbian> meway, that's how :)
[19:46] <Sidewinder1> edbian, Try to stick to the construct that "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".. 'Tis hear sometimes, especially for me.. :-)
[19:46] <blackbox> true, was wondering if their was no remote logging , IDS or IPS security then touching the files, eraseing the history file, and eraseing/modifying /var/log files should be all that is needed to hide your tracks completely in linux provided their was know security configured except the default things that linux does. Yes /No ?
[19:46] <edbian> Sidewinder1, :)
[19:46] <Kull> meway: just use htop or saidar if you cant get conky to work, unless its just for eye candy.
[19:46] <Sidewinder1> hard, even.
[19:46] <meway> edbian but I want to "move" it to the middle of the screen xD
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> meway: its an app like any other. Use software centre and uninstall it
[19:46] <dr_willis> meway: if you mean configure conky. you make a conky config file for it - to do exactly what you want..
[19:46] <edbian> blackbox, security is not that cut and dry
[19:47] <dr_willis> blackbox:  you can set bash to not save a history file...
[19:47]  * meway facedesks
[19:47] <SheikYerBouti> meway~ http://paste.ubuntu.com/787136/      -- example conky for you.
[19:47] <edbian> meway, oh, I thought you said 'remove'  :P
[19:47] <meway> thx SheikYerBouti
[19:47] <meway> edbian, you and 6 others xD
[19:47] <marvelouzone> hello everybody, was wondering if someone could help me configure my dhcpd.conf to point to tftp and file on a different server on same lan? so far I have option tftp-server-name "10.1.10.35"; how do I point to pxelinux.0 in the dhcpd.conf?
[19:48] <SheikYerBouti> meway~ gap_x and gap_y control the placement on screen
[19:48] <Mrpickleface> edbian: I have a sound issue, can you help me ?
[19:48] <marvelouzone> 10.1.10.35 is the server with tftp running
[19:48] <meway> SheikYerBouti, where is it?
[19:48] <dr_willis> from conky --help ----->    -C, --print-config        print the builtin default config to stdout
[19:49] <SheikYerBouti> meway~ where is what??
[19:49] <dr_willis> conky --print-config > .conkyrc   and edit .conkyrc as needed
[19:49] <edbian> Mrpickleface, follow this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[19:50] <marvelouzone> edbian can you help me out with my problem?
[19:50] <chrislsp> hello, i'm trying to creat a bootable usb. Tried unetbootin, startup disk creator but still nothing. I get a syslinux error and prompt to type to a boot: thing
[19:50] <edbian> marvelouzone, what is your problem?
[19:50] <dr_willis> chrislsp:  what version of ubuntu you truing to get going?
[19:50] <SheikYerBouti> chrislsp~ did you check md5 of the .iso
[19:50] <marvelouzone> i just typed it out..
[19:50] <Mrpickleface> edbian: I dont have a speak button on my screen
[19:51] <chrislsp>  I have 11.10 and trying to create a 10.04
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> chrislsp: did you md5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[19:51] <overclucker> blackbox: you won't be able to hide your tracks completely, the best you can do is hide your activity
[19:51] <edbian> Mrpickleface, I don't know what that means
[19:51] <chrislsp> no i don't know hot to do it
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> !md5
[19:51] <dr_willis> chrislsp:  the pendrivelinux site has other tools that may work. I tend to use the ones that setup grub2 to boot an iso file.
[19:51] <edbian> marvelouzone, I don't know.  Sorry
[19:51] <chrislsp> !md5 ?
[19:51] <marvelouzone> edbian: I'm trying to point dhcpd to different tftp server on same lan to boot pxelinux.0
[19:52] <chrislsp> !md5
[19:52] <Mrpickleface> edbian: on step #1 of what you linked me it says there is a speaker button my screen im supposed to click, I dont see it
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> chrislsp: use the links ubottu gave. You didn't test the image so you don't know if its complete and error free
[19:53] <chrislsp> ok doing it now
[19:53] <edbian> marvelouzone, I know.  I don't know how to do that
[19:53] <edbian> Mrpickleface, upper right hand corner next to the clock
[19:53] <chrislsp> ok done and got md5sum result f63028da38308d917cd1460e14fb8540
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> !hashes
[19:54] <marvelouzone> I've been reading and trying, bot much info on it.. but I know the linux gurus know
[19:54] <Mrpickleface> edbian: I dont have the clock/calender thing, I dont know why
[19:54] <edbian> Mrpickleface, do you really not have that?  hang on
[19:54] <chrislsp> !hashes
[19:54] <edbian> Mrpickleface, can you take a screenshot and show it to me?  imageshack.us
[19:54] <meway> SheikYerBouti, thx got it :D etc/conky/
[19:54] <Mrpickleface> edbian: yeah..where do I past the screenshot ?
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> Mrpickleface: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[19:55] <marvelouzone> ActionParsnip: any experience with tftp servers?
[19:55] <edbian> Mrpickleface, imageshack.us
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> marvelouzone: none. I use sftp
[19:55] <Sidewinder1> marvelouzone, Have a look at vsftpd, perhaps?
[19:56] <marvelouzone> yeah.. only problem with that is, you cant boot a pxe enviroment with it..
[19:56] <escott> marvelouzone, the only time i've used tftp it was on a static config. most boot environments can't handle dhcp
[19:56] <Mrpickleface> edbian: okay its uploading
[19:56] <edbian> Mrpickleface, give me the link when it's ready
[19:57] <Mrpickleface> edbian: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/545/screenshotat20111229145.png/
[19:57] <marvelouzone> well I have a tftp running, but I was trying to figure out how to point my dhcpdconf to the correct file on tftp server
[19:57] <Mrpickleface> edbian: how do I get the clock/calender and stuff ?
[19:57] <chrislsp> ok found my f63028da38308d917cd1460e14fb8540 on 10.04 latest
[19:57] <chrislsp> not 11.10
[19:57] <edbian> Mrpickleface, hang on
[19:57] <Mrpickleface> edbian: okay
[19:57] <chrislsp> i think that was what you meant
[19:58] <chrislsp> http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/10.04/MD5SUMS
[19:58] <escott> marvelouzone, im not sure what that means. how does dhcp look to a file on the tftp server (is there some tftp support in dhcp im unaware of)
[19:58] <chrislsp> here i found my result
[19:58] <blackbox> curious so , I am probably going to right some overclocking software but before I do I wanted to know if anybody can answer a few questions
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> Mrpickleface: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[19:58] <larstr> What stop motion app should one use now in 10.10? Luciole doesn't detect webcam (known bug), toonloop doesn't start (known bug) and I also see reports that stopmotion doesn't work... :'(
[19:58] <Mrpickleface> ActionParsnip: 1 sec
[19:58] <xangua> Mrpickleface: looks liek you remove them some way
[19:58] <edbian> Mrpickleface, my internet connection is very slow right now
[19:59] <Mrpickleface> ActionParsnip: "precise" ?
[19:59] <edbian> Mrpickleface, I'll be right back
[19:59] <larstr> also tried a beta of luciole that detects the webcam, but is unable to capture anything
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> Knew it
[19:59] <Mrpickleface> ActionParsnip: what does that mean :s?
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> !12.04
[19:59] <mellpatr> anyone have use from IKE Shrew Soft VPN Client with ubuntu ?
[19:59] <paniwani45> My laptop hibernates whenever I plug in the power chord on Ubuntu 11.10 and Linux Mint 12. Can anyone help?
[20:00] <chrislsp> ActionParsnip found my md5sum
[20:00] <marvelouzone> escott: option tftp-server-name "10.1.10.35"; points to tftp server in dhcpd.conf but you also have to tell it which file to download, not sure how to do that on a remote machine
[20:00] <chrislsp> ActionParsnip now what?
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> Mrpickleface: wrong channel. You are using pre release so WILL get issues
[20:00] <blackbox> question: if you cat  to the > /proc/cpuinfo file and change the cpu Mhz line to a different number. Will that be all you have to do to overclock. Or does that not work, I know some times cating to /proc files info can effect/change stuff but in this case I am doubtful anybody know for sure
[20:00] <Mrpickleface> ActionParsnip: I dident even know this was pre-release lol
[20:00] <Mrpickleface> ActionParsnip: how do I go to the normal version ?
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> paniwani45: check for BIOS update
[20:01] <marvelouzone> so who knows dhcpd.conf inside out?
[20:01] <escott> marvelouzone, again i thought the device knew what filename to request (i've only done this once with a buffalo device). I guess I cant really help you sorry.
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> Mrpickleface: format and reinstall with Oneiric
[20:01] <llutz> blackbox: most /proc entries cannot be changed manually, some can
[20:01] <Mrpickleface> whats oniric?
[20:01] <chrislsp> found my md5 f63028da38308d917cd1460e14fb8540 on http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/10.04/MD5SUMS now what to do so i can make my bootable usb? Thank you
[20:02] <rickb06> hello, anyone ever used antonio chiurazzi's pam-face-authentication package / ppa?
[20:02] <blackbox> true , but is the /proc/cpuinfo cpu Mhz parameter this "can case" or not?
[20:02] <Mrpickleface> okay im going to try to install this over lol
[20:02] <Mrpickleface> brb
[20:02] <rickb06> doesn't look like it's in the repo :|
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> Mrpickleface: codename for ubuntu 11.10
[20:02] <paniwani45> ActionParsnip: how do i check for a BIOS update?
[20:02] <irvken> how can I tell if I have ruby installed locally on my ubuntu machine?
[20:02] <blackbox> I am think it is the not... but does anybody know for sure?
[20:02] <llutz> blackbox: afaik you can't write into it 8or at least it won't change anything
[20:02] <Mrpickleface> ActionParsnip: okay
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> paniwani45: manufacturers site
[20:03] <escott> blackbox, not in this case. overclocking usually requires bios changes and a change in cpu voltage
[20:03] <Mrpickleface> ActionParsnip: see with 11.10 my graphic card was messing up then my friend installed this one for me over tv and it fixed it :S
[20:03] <blackbox> ok , so then the only way is to use an int command or a syscall
[20:03] <marvelouzone> escott: thanks for trying though.. its along the lines of creating a dhcp relay, the server with the dhcpd.conf is my dhcp/internet server/gateway, and then I have a fileserver with ftp, tftp,etc I can access from all machines, but I was trying to setup a pxe boot enviroment which gets all server ip's/gateways thru dhcp
[20:03] <Mrpickleface> anywho brb..
[20:04] <edbian> I have /etc/dhcp/ and /etc/dhcp3/  (even after I've purged dhcp3)  what is the deal here?
[20:04] <blackbox> I am wondering is their a linux command for modifying the cpu, i.e some function in some library???
[20:04] <chrislsp> anyone available :(
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> Mrpickleface: then you may stay on precise and get support in #ubuntu+1 or reinstall Oneiric for support here.
[20:04] <Mrpickleface> yeah im ganna reinstall
[20:04] <escott> blackbox, the kernel probably cant do this. look to your bios
[20:05] <edbian> blackbox, the CPU is hardware.  What do you mean 'modify' it?
[20:06] <blackbox> I know on a windows machine their is overclocking software for your cpu. In linux I have only found overclocking gpu software no cpu software.
[20:06] <larstr> blackbox: check out cpufreq
[20:06] <fivedaysahead> does your bios support overclocking?
[20:07] <blackbox> The reason I want to use software is that on this machine their is no bios update for overclocking it was pre-built not built on its own... so bios doesn't have that function
[20:08] <fivedaysahead> can i remotely access tty0 if it is not logged in? like an x11vnc type program?
[20:08] <paniwani45> ActionParsnip: both BIOS updates on my HP laptop were released before I purchased the laptop. do u suggest i run them anyway?
[20:08] <chrislsp> anyone here to help me create a bootable usb for 10.04?
[20:08] <com642> chrislsp, download the ISO from the ubuntu website and create the USB with unetbootin
[20:08] <chrislsp> tried it
[20:09] <com642> what happened?
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> paniwani45: look at the version numbers, not the dates
[20:09] <chrislsp> but still getting an error with syslinux
[20:09] <paniwani45> chrislsp: try step 2 http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[20:09] <com642> chrislsp, it worked for me; maybe you could try ubuntu startup disk creator instead.
[20:09] <chrislsp> did it and getting the error
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> chrislsp: try startup-disk-creator
[20:09] <chrislsp> i tried that
[20:10] <chrislsp> Tried unetbootin, startup disk creator but still nothing. I get a syslinux error and prompt to type to a boot: thing
[20:10] <com642> Did you format your USB drive first?
[20:10] <chrislsp> yes
[20:10] <chrislsp> with gparted
[20:10] <com642> Try another USB drive?
[20:10] <com642> Format with FAT32?
[20:10] <chrislsp> yes
[20:11] <com642> Maybe your ISO is corrupt? I've had that problem before.
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> chrislsp: try deleting all partitions then let startup disk creator make it for you
[20:11] <Daniel0108> I want to upgrade my natty to oneiric, but there are problems with inofficial packages, how do I remove all of them to be able to upgrade?
[20:12] <escott> fivedaysahead, you cannot remotely access tty0, but you can ssh in if you have ssh installed
[20:13] <chrislsp> trying now with another drive
[20:13] <kippi> anyone has a good guide how to make linux machine work like a ad and/or domain controller Windows Server?
[20:14] <marvelouzone> kippi: I use zentyal
[20:15] <Matrixiumn> bye
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> Daniel0108: just disable all 3rd party ppas
[20:18] <kippi> marvelouzone: thanks
[20:19] <LucidGuy> Can someone explain why this all can't be on a single line within a bash script    if [ $? -ne 0 ]; reason="Suspend Error"; haltonerror; fi
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> Lucidguy: ask in #bash too
[20:22] <th_> LucidGuy: keyword "then" is missing
[20:22] <LucidGuy> th_, got it
[20:22] <LucidGuy> thanks
[20:27] <overclucker> LucidGuy: if there are no arguments, set reason, and run haltonerror. refer to haltonerror in your script to see what it does
[20:28] <eicos> hello all. I am having some trouble with the following bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pkgsel/+bug/789898
[20:28] <eicos> one of the developers closed the bug but didn't explain what the fix was
[20:28] <chrislsp> tried another usb drive and still the same
[20:29] <chrislsp> nothing changed!!!
[20:29] <chrislsp> :@
[20:29] <com642> Did you try re-downloading the ISO?
[20:29] <chrislsp> no
[20:29] <chrislsp> why should this be a problem?checked the md5 and was ok
[20:30] <com642> Or maybe it's your computer at fault, but I doubt it; though I remember having trouble with Arch with one specific computer.
[20:31] <chrislsp> I dougt it my laptop cause i have done this before
[20:31] <chrislsp> i will try to download it again and to make a live usb from windows
[20:31] <geoffmcc> chrislsp: are you using a sandisk usb drive?
[20:33] <geoffmcc> chrislsp: if so you need to remove the U3 partition
[20:33] <fivedaysahead> could try a lower distro version and installing that then updating but i wouldn't really recommend that
[20:33] <fivedaysahead> yes get u3 out of there!
[20:35] <BluesKaj> fivedaysahead, before I was so rudely interrupted , I was going to ask you why you were trying to stop X /
[20:35] <BluesKaj> ?
[20:36] <Supermanintights> hey guys - i'm looking to dualboot (from scratch - computer is currently sitting on the windows install screen) windows 7 and ubuntu.  someone told me last night to start by installing windows first.  i've never dualbooted before.  i've just found this guide: http://lifehacker.com/5403100/dual+boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-in-perfect-harmony - can someone with experience tell me if this is a good
[20:36] <Supermanintights> guide to follow - and which i should install/run first - windows 7 or ubuntu?  thanks :)
[20:36] <eicos> Sorry, any ideas on the 11.10 alternate install bug
[20:36] <OerHeks> Install windows first, Supermanintights
[20:36] <esde> Quick question, I tried to setup a pptp vpn server on my ubuntu box, the first time I started pptpd, I configured my iPhone to connect on the LAN no problem, opened up port 1723 and used my external ip and connected just fine. In both cases I had no internet access once connected, I removed pptp and re-installed it, and now it won't stay running after a reboot, any help is appreciated, I'd like to set it up so all traffic goes through the server and I can
[20:36] <esde>  access the local area network resources as if I were on that network.
[20:36] <jeran> anyone no How to get S-video working Ubuntu 11.10 unity ATI radeon x1200
[20:36] <esde> http://i40.tinypic.com/501ez8.png
[20:36] <zandt> install windows first, that's what most people do
[20:36] <zandt> from there installing ubuntu will be extremely easy
[20:36] <zandt> self-explanatory even
[20:37] <graft> hi, how can i get rid of gnome-games when gnome depends on it? If i uninstall gnome-games, gnome uninstalls with it
[20:37] <milo_> Good afternoon.
[20:38] <usuario> OI
[20:38] <geoffmcc> Supermanintights: i just skimmed it and it looks fine. install win7 and then use admin tools/computer management/disk management to shrink the drive to make room for ubuntu. boot iso and go threw prompts, you will be fine
[20:38] <usuario> PK
[20:39] <loganRun> I want to build a windows 7 and ubuntu dual boot system, where can I find info on how to best do that'
[20:39] <Supermanintights> geoffmcc - the guide seems to say you run linux first? also - do i run the setup as a full harddrive partition, or should i "shrink" ahead of time
[20:40] <zandt> geoffmcc, can't he do that w/ the ubuntu cd ?
[20:40] <zandt> instead of doing it in windows
[20:40] <BluesKaj> jeran, are there other video outputs working besides vga ?
[20:40] <zandt> it's been a while and I was using XP, but I remember just popping the cd in, rebooting, and then resizing
[20:40] <jeran> just my laptop screen vga isnt either
[20:41] <unreal-dude> loganRun install win7 with 50% of HDD (or your choice of the space) and then install ubuntu afterwards
[20:41] <geoffmcc> Supermanintights: def install win7 first, if it already installed then just shrink the drive like i said to make space for ubuntu. when you get to ubuntu, it will notice this and give a dual boot option
[20:41] <unreal-dude> its not that hard
[20:41] <Supermanintights> cool, thanks :)
[20:41] <jeran> tried the system test it seems like its recognizing it
[20:41] <geoffmcc> zandt: yes, you can use ubuntu to do it to, but its way easier for people who are having trouble to do in win
[20:41] <zandt> geoffmcc, ah okay
[20:41] <loganRun> unreal-dude, o.k. thanks
[20:41] <zandt> Supermanintights, it's almost impossible to mess up, I promise
[20:41] <Supermanintights> haha
[20:41] <eicos> Any advice on dealing with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pkgsel/+bug/789898
[20:41] <Supermanintights> famous last words?
[20:41] <zandt> haha
[20:42] <jeran> says vga 0 and a line above that says screen 0 then below those two lines it has my laptop screen
[20:42] <geoffmcc> Supermanintights: it will get you to a screen that has dual boot as an option. select that and you will be fine
[20:42] <zandt> well I did it successfully... and I can almost guarantee you're smarter
[20:43] <geoffmcc> Supermanintights: if anything happens you can always delete the ubuntu partions, and then use win7 disk to repair windows boot loader and windows will be back
[20:43] <zandt> exactly
[20:43] <Supermanintights> haha, cheers :)
[20:44] <meerkats> there is a defective installation of vegastrike in my laptop, I cannot shut it down, not even with system monitor, tips?
[20:44] <jeran> I thought it was easier to boot Ubunto first and partition for windows
[20:44] <jeran> Any Ideas bluesKaj
[20:45] <geoffmcc> Supermanintights: it has been a while, only thing i dont remember for sure is after you shrink the drive in windows to make room for ubuntu if you should format that new partion or leave it raw, i believe just leave it raw. if ubuntu dont give dual boot option, then just go back and format
[20:45] <jeran> I can use both in windows 7 on the same laptop dual booted
[20:48] <jeran> anyone know of a way to get s-video working ATI radeon x1200, Ubuntu 11.10
[20:49] <zandt> jeran, I've never tried it that way
[20:49] <zandt> I partitioned with the ubuntu cd
[20:49] <BluesKaj> jeran, which driver?
[20:49] <jeran> the one Ubuntu loaded
[20:50] <ironfoot495> Hi I've goot two hard drive win7 just wont let me see ubuntu 10.04. an I get some help?
[20:50] <ironfoot495> is there away to solve this problem?
[20:50] <LikeA> can anyone help here, i have an old laptop, cd drive dont seem to work, cant boot from usb. it has windows ME on it, any way, at all, that i can boot something?
[20:51] <jeran> everything except those works well except my volume dial (no big deal) and some other shortcut keys
[20:51] <ironfoot495> no ubuntu s not load win7 MBRwont let me through.
[20:51] <meerkats> what does error 1 and error 2 mean?
[20:52] <Galvatron> LikeA: Assuming it supports a USB boot, use the UNetbootin, to create a bootable pendrive
[20:52] <ironfoot495> also win7 has dominated both drives .
[20:52] <zandt> meerkats, on what
[20:53] <dr_willis> jeran:  with the ati drivers from what i recall..  tv out was never supported.. but its been ages since i last used ati.
[20:53] <meerkats> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[20:53] <meerkats> make[1]: *** [vssetup] Error 1
[20:53] <meerkats> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/dexter/Compiled/VegaStrike_SVN/vegastrike'
[20:53] <meerkats> make: *** [all] Error 2
[20:53] <LikeA> Galvatron: it cant boot from usb.. i guess im screwed here
[20:53] <dr_willis> ironfoot495:  You installed ubuntu to the 2nd hard drive?
[20:53] <meerkats> zandt, that
[20:54] <ironfoot495> Yes
[20:54] <jeran> Zandt  I just made a usb boot with linux pendrive on another computer and installed with a partition the size I wanted for windows 7
[20:54] <ironfoot495> but win7 wont let me get to it???
[20:54] <Galvatron> LikeA: Seems like buying a new optical might be the best option
[20:54] <dr_willis> ironfoot495:  you  could have grub install to the mbr of the 2nd hard drive. then tell bios to boot that hd. windows wouldent be affected at all.
[20:54] <zandt> jeran, nice
[20:55] <zandt> meerkats, I'm googling... what are you compiling ?
[20:55] <dr_willis> ironfoot495:  win7 'get to it' is very un clear.. did the grub bootloader install? you see a grub menu?
[20:55] <meerkats> zandt, a game
[20:55] <jeran> dr_willis I can use them in windows though
[20:55] <zandt> what's it say before you get the error ?
[20:56] <zandt> PM it to me if it's long
[20:56] <zandt> or pastebin it
[20:56] <dr_willis> jeran:  ati has been known to not release all their specs.. so not all features of their cards get supported under linux.
[20:56] <ironfoot495> Isaw where it said it saw other OS  did I want to set the boot some where else and I said no.
[20:56] <dr_willis> jeran:  the fact the tv out works in windows.. shows you got the cables correct :) and not much else.
[20:56] <go8765>  hello.can anybody help me with seamonky? when I run chatzilla it fall down
[20:56] <ironfoot495> Now when I bboot up all I see is the win7 MBR
[20:56] <Crupulus> Hi, any reason why firefox fails completly at loading pages? other apps (XChat) work fully, but i just can't load pages, or once every 10 attempts
[20:57] <dr_willis> ironfoot495:  i would install and put the grub mbr on the 2nd hard drive. and set bios to boot that hd.
[20:57] <zandt> meerkats, I'm just assuming something is missing, a dependency, so the stuff that comes before the error should clue us in
[20:57] <jeran> oh ok is it possible to take the drivers from windows and install
[20:57] <Crupulus> be it on google or other websites
[20:57] <ironfoot495> ok I'll do it
[20:57] <meerkats> zandt, the line above reads: /usr/lib/gcc/i686-linux-gnu/4.6.1/../../../i386-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so: undefined reference to `g_datalist_get_data'
[20:57] <BluesKaj> jeran, the only thing I can think of is the ati catalyst app, it might help you configure the video outputs
[20:58] <Galvatron> Crupulus: Seems like an FF issue, not a Ubuntu one...
[20:58] <jeran> where do I get that app?
[20:58] <dr_willis> jeran:  you dont use windows drivers on linux normally
[20:58] <oCean> meerkats: consult the maintainers of the package, we cannot provide support for software that's not in the official repositories
[20:59] <skegeek> Do I have to make my external screen "mirrored" so Ubuntu will stop putting new windows/dialogs on built-in screen? It's annoying having to drag things over (left) to be on my external screen. External screen is on left in display settings.
[20:59] <jeran> yeah but I have read that sometimes it will work
[20:59] <dr_willis> jeran:  not for video cards
[20:59] <dr_willis> skegeek:  whats your video chipset?
[20:59] <nullucas> what's the best way to backup files and also check their integrity regularly? md5sum?
[21:00] <dr_willis> nullucas:  fsarchiver is handy for that
[21:00] <skegeek> Intel Mobile 965 Express Chipset
[21:00] <zandt> meerkats, I'm still looking, what game is it ?
[21:00] <MonkeyDust> !fsarchiver > MonkeyDust
[21:00] <Galvatron> dr_willis: It is nVidia that is (in)famous for not releasing any specs, ths leaving Nouveau devs lurking in the complete darkenss of reverse engineering. AMD/ATI is just the opposite way (bothe of therir dirivers are a russian roulette though).
[21:00] <jeran> dr_willis, thanks
[21:01] <LaFlakitaBnAsika> mmmmm
[21:01] <LaFlakitaBnAsika> jeran i love you
[21:01] <Galvatron> jeran: I also recommend trying #radeon (for open source) and #ati (for proprietary drivvers)
[21:02] <LaFlakitaBnAsika> i love you jeran
[21:02] <ft_mn> Hi, how is it possible to connect to a hidden network, if the networks essid has 0 length and by only its bssid??
[21:02] <oCean> LaFlakitaBnAsika: please stop that
[21:02] <ft_mn> Hi, how is it possible to connect to a hidden network, if the networks essid has 0 length and by only knowing its bssid??
[21:02] <jeran> Galvatron not sure what you mean
[21:03] <jeran> laflkitabnasika....................ok?
[21:03] <skegeek> lol...I was wondering why he asked for my video info :P
[21:04] <jeran> Galvatron will you explain?
[21:05] <kj4> can i run ubuntu with windows?
[21:05] <ft_mn> Hi, how is it possible to connect to a hidden network, if the networks essid has 0 length and by only knowing its bssid?? from the terminal at least
[21:05] <MonkeyDust> kj4  you mean dual boot?
[21:05] <jeran> kj4 not at the same time but dual boot yes doing it as we speak
[21:05] <kj4> ok
[21:06] <skegeek> kj4: You can dual boot it, or you can use Wubi to install Linux on the side as you would windows software.
[21:06] <Galvatron> jeran: I mean Radeon support channels
[21:06] <jeran> I had bad luck with wubi it slowed my system down alot.
[21:07] <jeran> oh ok thanks galvatron
[21:07] <sskalnik>  Trying to ssh from one ubuntu box to another. I use the correct account name and pw, but I still get 'permission denied'
[21:08] <Crupu> umm, i'm trying to do "su root" and it asks me the password. It's the same as when i do any "sudo" command, right ?
[21:08] <sskalnik> Crupu:  yes
[21:08] <Crupu> AH, well it doesn't work lol. "Authentification failure" - any idea why?
[21:09] <kj4> Crupu: you need the root passwd to su
[21:09] <murfie> because there is no root pw
[21:09] <oCean> Crupu: sskalnik is not correct, it's NOT the same pw as with sudo
[21:09] <Crupu> ah lol gonna try without
[21:09] <jeran> Galvatron, no one is in those channels
[21:09] <vellskaya> hy I like if its posible install pepakura designer in ubuntu
[21:09] <oCean> Crupu: also, we don't support enabling the root password
[21:09] <sskalnik> oCean:  I stand corrected
[21:09] <murfie> I do
[21:09] <oCean> sskalnik: heh, not a problem :)
[21:09] <Crupu> So what should i enter ? i tried no pw, still didnt work
[21:09] <murfie> I love it
[21:09] <geoffmcc> Crupu: it would actually be sudo su
[21:09] <oCean> Crupu: you can't use su
[21:10] <oCean> Crupu: use sudo
[21:10] <Crupu> ah
[21:10] <murfie> sudo -s
[21:10] <Crupu> sudo root" ?
[21:10] <LaFlakitaBnAsika> spanish
[21:10] <oCean> Crupu: sudo -i to start interactive root shell
[21:10] <oCean> !es | LaFlakitaBnAsika
[21:10] <LaFlakitaBnAsika> ??
[21:10] <murfie> !man sudo
[21:10] <sskalnik> 'sudo su root' just worked for me
[21:10] <LaFlakitaBnAsika> mmmmm
[21:10] <kj4> Crupu: specify a username with ssh using the '-l' option
[21:10] <oCean> sskalnik: yes, but it's somewhat silly
[21:10] <sskalnik> oCean:  quite
[21:11] <LaFlakitaBnAsika> creo que ya entre al canal y no habre
[21:11] <sskalnik> !es > LaFlakitaBnAsika
[21:12] <Galvatron> jeran: Physically noone, or simply no instant reply?
[21:12] <moonunitzappa> hello
[21:12] <jeran> well I saw you went in there but see no chatting
[21:13] <moonunitzappa> can anyone help me right quick, just got a new usb wifi card. Netgear wn111v2        i only get 1-2 bars when using it and with my old shitty belkin i get full bars?
[21:13] <Doghouse> I "upgraded" from 11.04 to 11.10 and really hate the way this bar on the left works, and can't access applications from a simple menu.  I'm not finding an obvious way to return things back to normal.  What am I missing?
[21:13] <moonunitzappa> thats unity for your Doghouse
[21:13] <pippo> ciao
[21:13] <Galvatron> !unity | Doghouse
[21:13] <moonunitzappa> i went back to 10.10  but there are some ways you can get past that and make it look how it useto
[21:13] <LaFlakitaBnAsika> spanishhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[21:14] <Galvatron> moonunitzappa: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3-based Unity
[21:15] <shomon> ciao pippo you need an italian chat
[21:15] <shomon> !it
[21:15] <Doghouse> what the heck were they thinking with this cr@p??  it has my head hurting and I feel quite ticked off that they'd do this.  Thanks for the tips.
[21:15] <pippo> ciao
[21:16] <helo1> How can you make the current releases look like 10.10 and prior (gnome2)
[21:16] <Galvatron> moonunitzappa: If you want a more GNOME 2-like experience, you should use either the "fallback" session (ubuntu-fallback or gnome-fallback - can't remember the exact package name) or Mate (a fork of GNOME2, unfortunately lacking but the most core applets).
[21:17] <helo1> The best I've been able to do so far is 11.10 with gnome3
[21:17] <dr_willis> Doghouse:  read up on the various using unity, and unity tweak guides..
[21:17] <EvilResistance> helo1:  is there a reason you don't want GNOME3 shell? (aka not unity)
[21:17] <helo1> I hate it in comparison to my older gnome2
[21:17] <EvilResistance> helo1:  hate what, GNOME 3 or Unity?
[21:17] <helo1> I dislike the removal of the menues
[21:17] <dr_willis> Doghouse:  check webupd8 and the omgubuntu blog sites. There are also indicator applets to give unity a old-fashioned gnome menu
[21:18]  * miadbahrami hi
[21:18] <helo1> I also HATE HATE HATE not having the taskbar at the bottom to organize open windows
[21:18] <pippo> ciao
[21:18] <helo1> It's Mac all over again with unity
[21:18] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/list-of-application-indicators
[21:18] <dr_willis> I dont find it like mac at all..
[21:18] <Galvatron> The only problem with Shell is a horrible performance of Mutte
[21:18] <Galvatron> *Mutter
[21:18] <Doghouse> I HATE not having choice.  It's like ubuntu just twisted my arm behind my back with this "upgrade".
[21:19] <dr_willis> Doghouse:  gnome2 is dead.. it was unity or gnome-shell  so you do have a choice.
[21:19] <dr_willis> Or theres lubuntu or xubuntu
[21:19] <helo1> @Doghouse
[21:19] <helo1> EXACTLY
[21:19] <Galvatron> Doghouse: If you want a more GNOME 2-like experience, you should use either the "fallback" session (ubuntu-fallback or gnome-fallback - can't remember the exact package name) or Mate (a fork of GNOME2, unfortunately lacking but the most core applets).
[21:19] <overclucker> I still haven't upgraded  from 10.10, nor have I felt pressured to do so
[21:20] <Doghouse> I just need need to be able to move that bar, and I need the menus.  they may not look all pretty, but they work fast and simple
[21:20] <dr_willis> theres some mod/hack out to move the panel to the bottom. (not used it)
[21:20] <Galvatron> overclucker: It is quite safe, especially since 11.04 also has GNOME2 (by default) and Compiz 0.8.6 (through PPA)
[21:21] <Galvatron> dr_willis: In Unity it would bebest to just kick it out and replace with an external dock
[21:21] <moonunitzappa> ty Galvatron   but i took care of that problem a while ago, just went bac k to 10 10
[21:22] <overclucker> Galvatron: i've been thinking about upgrading to +1 since it'll be lts
[21:22] <Galvatron> For now 11.04 seems like a better option, supporing all the stuff from 10.10 and being supported till 12.10 goes out
[21:22] <dr_willis> Galvatron:  i just install awn.. and  move along....
[21:22] <helo1> @moonunitzappa: You'd be better off going to 10.04 LTS for the longer update period before having to figure out something else
[21:24] <dr_willis> I do think they should have included a classic menu like -->  http://www.florian-diesch.de/software/classicmenu-indicator/
[21:24] <moonunitzappa> good idea helo1.   Is there much of a diffrence between 10.4 and 10.10?
[21:25] <helo1> @moonunitzappa: minimal that I've come accross
[21:25] <moonunitzappa> awesome, thanks, ill get on tha
[21:25] <helo1> You get a lot more vendor support for sticking with LTS as well
[21:25] <helo1> In my experience anyway
[21:26] <harovali> hi, I'm about to download ubuntu server, and it lets me choose 32bit or 64bit (that is recommended). Which should I choose ? I'm accustomed to 32 bits
[21:26] <helo1> How much ram do you have
[21:26] <helo1> harovali
[21:26] <harovali> helo1: 2GB
[21:26] <EvilResistance> harovali:  its dependent on your architecture
[21:27] <helo1> CPU?
[21:27] <EvilResistance> harovali:  if your processor is a 64bit processor, 64bit is recommended
[21:27] <EvilResistance> harovali:  if your processor is *not* 64bit, you will need to use 32bit
[21:27] <Mrpickleface> hey
[21:27] <reisio> heyo
[21:27] <harovali> EvilResistance: I have to check that
[21:27] <helo1> hello
[21:27] <Galvatron> moonunitzappa: I guess getting back to 10.04 makes a little sense. 11.04 is supported 6 months shorter - until X 2012 vs IV 2013 and 12.04 LTS goes out in april
[21:27] <EvilResistance> harovali:  if you tell us the model of your processor we can find out
[21:28] <EvilResistance> or at least, i can :P
[21:28] <harovali> EvilResistance: let me check
[21:28] <blackbox> is dmesg stored in /var/log/kern.log or is their other log files it is stored in... (i.e other files under /var/log stored in pieces:)
[21:28] <Mrpickleface> so erm, my graphics card drivers arent installed afaik I have GT 520 by Nividea :p
[21:28] <helo1> @blackbox: I think dmesg just reads the syslog
[21:29] <dr_willis> Mrpickleface:  so you run 'jockey-gtk' and does it suggest any drivers. (or 'addational drivers' from the menus)
[21:29] <blackbox> ok, gotcha
[21:29] <Flannel> Galvatron: If you're on 11.04, you'll need to upgrade twice to get to 12.04 when it comes out, compared to once if you're on 10.04
[21:29] <Mrpickleface> dr_willis: I'm using ubuntu 10.04 atm, erm how do I run jockey-gtk ?
[21:29] <Galvatron> Mrpickleface: Best download the latest stable (290.10) from nVidia's website
[21:30] <MichelleZ> dmesg actually shows the kernel output ringbuffer, its not actually syslog
[21:30] <oCean> helo1: blackbox, dmesg is actually a kernel (driver) message buffer, not
[21:30] <harovali> EvilResistance: helo1:  what happens if I install ubuntu 32 bits on a 64 bits cpu ?
[21:30] <oCean> ^that
[21:30] <helo1> @harovali: It will work fine
[21:31] <EvilResistance> harovali:  it'll still work, but it might have some speed decreases... 64bit OS is designed to take care of the full 64bit capabilities of your processor...
[21:31] <helo1> ^^ Yep
[21:31] <DrPenguin> EvilResistance: I dont think he would see a speed decrease persay, just whatever a 32bit OS is capable of
[21:31] <harovali> thanks you both EvilResistance helo1
[21:31] <MichelleZ> the main difference is ram addressing, you can go over 2G per process and over 4G total without messing around with bigmem kernels and what not
[21:31] <DrPenguin> theres an obvious performance difference between a 32 and 64bit OS tho
[21:32] <Mrpickleface> Galvatron: I downloaded it but erm..what do I open it with ?
[21:32] <blackbox> ya, but I just wanted to know where the dmesg was storing/reading it's stuff from. And I know believe it is syslog... but to be sure I will have to dmseg > dmesg.stuff and compare dmesg_stuff with syslog to see if they are exact copies
[21:32] <helo1> Mainly, there are opcodes in the 64 bit command set that can do things that would normally take multiple cycles/opcodes
[21:32] <oCean> blackbox: it's a buffer in memory
[21:32] <MichelleZ> there are also extra registers on 64bit CPU that well optimised code can make use of in tight inner loop situations etc
[21:33] <helo1> I'm out. Catch yah later.
[21:33] <escott> blackbox, dmesg is the kernel ringbuffer. when syslog starts it copies the ringbuffer to disk
[21:33] <blackbox> " blackbox: it's a buffer in memory" yes but doesn't it get written to a log file
[21:33] <Mrpickleface> dr_willis: you here?...
[21:33] <Galvatron> Flannel: The current machine is going to be used for up to 6-8 months at best, and at this time I might fully migrate to Apple (even if not, 11.04 is quite likely to be the last system on tthis computer).
[21:34] <blackbox> and isn't syslog where dmesg copies itself?
[21:34] <MichelleZ> at startup yes, later kernel events might not end there
[21:35] <dr_willis> Mrpickleface:  in and out all day long...
[21:35] <oCean> blackbox: as MichelleZ says, not everything dmesg contains is written to logs, dmesg is often more detailed in error messages
[21:35] <wi-nick> @blackbox there's dmesg files rotating in /var/log
[21:35] <MichelleZ> if for some reason you are on a R/O fs as well syslog can't be written to, but dmesg will contain stuff
[21:35] <escott> blackbox, your terminology is confusing. there is a syslog file (and a kern.log) syslogd (the logging daemon) copies dmesg to kern.log and also /var/log/syslog
[21:35] <Mrpickleface> dr_willis: okay..how do I open the program you told me to ?
[21:35] <dr_willis> Mrpickleface:  type its name in the terminal, or alt-f2 or whatever..
[21:35] <blackbox> ok I see sorry for the confusion
[21:36] <oCean> escott: not really copies, not everything in dmesg buffer is written to disk
[21:36] <Mrpickleface> dr_willis: okay, what was it called again?
[21:36] <dr_willis> Mrpickleface:  or look for 'Addational Drivers' In the menus.
[21:36] <dr_willis> Mrpickleface:  most irc clients have history on their UP arrow key.. :)
[21:36] <dr_willis> jockey-gtk
[21:37] <dr_willis>  jockey-
[21:37] <dr_willis> jockey-gtk   jockey-kde   jockey-text
[21:37] <Mrpickleface> dr_willis: it says no properitry drivers are in use on this system
[21:38] <dr_willis> and does it list some to install?
[21:38] <Mrpickleface> dr_willis: no
[21:39] <dr_willis> Try installing the 'nvidia-current' package perhaps.. some cards may confuse jockey
[21:39] <Mrpickleface> dr_willis: how ?
[21:42] <dr_willis> Mrpickleface:  fire up any of the package manger tools and install 'nvidia-current'
[21:42] <dr_willis> apt-get install PACKAGENAME, or use the gui tools and search/install.
[21:43] <dr_willis> 'sudo apt-get install PAKAGENAME' :)
[21:44] <Galvatron> I've already instructed him on using pakages from nVidia's website.;)
[21:44] <MrTopless> Anyone interested in electronic music if yes, then try my http://juslintek.caster.fm radio, maybe you will like it :-)
[21:44] <dr_willis> From nvidia site.. you are on your own..
[21:44] <dr_willis> I just use the ones from the repos.
[21:45] <Galvatron> Manual module compilation after kernel upgrade is not a problem.;)
[21:45] <Galvatron> They fix quite a lot of bugs
[21:45] <dr_willis> for someone that had to ask how to run 'jockey-gtk' yes it is a problem.
[21:46] <Galvatron> The only alternative source of the latest Forceware are xorg-edgers and x-updates/x-swap, whiich I don't trust in terms of stability.
[21:49] <Doghouse> life is looking better.  I installed gnome, rebooted and I've got menus again!!!  and the stupid unity bar is gone!
[21:50] <dr_willis> installed gnome?
[21:50] <dr_willis> on 11.10?
[21:50] <Doghouse> yes, 11.10.  I made the mistake of "upgrading"
[21:50] <dr_willis> gnome was allready installed on 11.10 ubuntu.
[21:50] <dr_willis> so its a bit vague on what you actually did.
[21:51] <Galvatron> Either mate or "fallback". ;)
[21:52] <dr_willis> I just install the classic-indicator-applet for classic style menus..  but guess it dosent matter.
[21:52] <Doghouse> I went  to the ubuntu software center, typed in Gnome, clicked on the install button, and it installed.
[21:53] <Doghouse> whatever it was, my system is usable now.
[21:53] <Galvatron> Did you have to change default session?
[21:53] <dr_willis> so you are using the gnome3 fallback mode.. which may get removed   in the next release..
[21:54] <dr_willis> its also differnt in areas,  i hear compared to actual gnome2
[21:54] <Doghouse> when I went to login, I selected gnome
[21:54] <Galvatron> It was the original plan, but GNOME2 fans made the devs  leave it and work on it
[21:54] <plusEV> How do I install girlfriend in bedroom?
[21:54] <reisio> plusEV: /join #irl
[21:54] <dr_willis> i doubt anyone made the devs so anything.. but its getting ot.
[21:55] <Galvatron> Also, "fallback" is the defalult GNOME 3, while Unity and Sgell are just shells.
[21:55] <Doghouse> well, if ubuntu forces unity with no alternative, then I'll be forced to use something else.
[21:55] <OerHeks> !nounity
[21:55] <dr_willis> The alternative is Gnome-shell as mentioned earlier...
[21:55] <dr_willis> and you are using gnome shells fall back mode
[21:55] <dr_willis> which is basically a stop-gap measure from what ive read.
[21:56] <Galvatron> dr_willis: There were likely a lot of pleas to make GNOME 3 more like it's predecessor, and they've listened to them
[21:56] <exiff> Seasons greetings to you all
[21:56] <Galvatron> Also, MATE is under development, so you'll alwase hate GNOME 2, this way or another
[21:57] <dr_willis> I imagine in a few months/year - people will go 'whatver happened to Mate'
[21:57] <dr_willis>  Now the Project to make a gnome-3 fork with a gnome-2 look/feel/theme/ might go somewhere.
[21:57]  * dr_willis waits for some actual support questions now....
[21:57] <Doghouse> whoever thought unity is a good idea should just go work for apple.
[21:57] <exiff> Im having trouble with video playback on 10.04... whenever i use multiple monitors, the video just shows black, in mplayer and ffplay... how do i sort this out?
[21:58] <Doghouse> thanks for all the help!
[21:58] <dr_willis> exiff:  what video card/gpu?
[21:58] <sskalnik> Receiving the error "subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" when trying to install a package I have made. The package installed with nary a hiccup on the system on which it was built. The build and target are nigh identical (same hardware, same Ubuntu version). This error is not terribly informative. Where might I find a log for this sort of thing? Checked dpkg.log, but nothing useful
[21:58] <dr_willis> exiff:  the video On the primary monitor is also black? or just the external?
[21:58] <exiff> It's a laptop, so probably intel graphics
[21:58] <exiff> Theyre both black dr_willis
[21:59] <dr_willis> exiff:  i have laptops with ati, nvidia , and intel. :)  then theres  the new optimius-dual gpu laptops..
[21:59] <dr_willis> exiff:  what player? tried vlc?
[21:59] <dr_willis> exiff:  does sound play? so you can tell the video is actually playing and its just the video thats black?
[21:59] <exiff> Vlc works... but sometimes i need to use mplayer and ffplay
[22:00] <exiff> Sound plays just fine dr_willis
[22:00] <dr_willis> exiff:  sometimes? the same video is black in vlc, but works in mplayer?
[22:00] <dr_willis> exiff:  only SOME vidoes are black? or are all them?
[22:00] <exiff> No, vlc always shows the video,but mplayer and ffplay shows black.
[22:01] <exiff> All of them dr_willis
[22:01] <dr_willis> check the 'video' out option in vlc and mplayer. could be you need to set them both to be the same.
[22:01] <dr_willis> i forget the exact option. but theres like half a dozen ways to display the vidoes. X11, DirectRendering, and others..
[22:02] <exiff> Yes, vlc has it on x11 video output
[22:02] <dr_willis> alternavely it could be a video codec that the problem player cant handle.
[22:02] <exiff> Are similar settings available in mplayer dr_willis?
[22:03] <dr_willis> exiff:  i belive so. been ages since i used mplayer
[22:03] <cordoval> what is the du full command to list the file count on top folders?
[22:03] <cordoval> I need to remove files on my system
[22:03] <cordoval> du --exclude='*.o' what else?
[22:03] <cordoval> need to list the top space eaters on file count
[22:03] <exiff> Codecs arent the problem because it does this for every type of video
[22:04] <exiff> Anyway thanks for your help dr_willis ^^,
[22:04] <Mrpickleface> dr_willis: can I pm you ?
[22:05] <dr_willis> Mrpickleface:  i may have to leave at any time. going to look at  a house for sale.
[22:05] <cordoval> please file count, what is the best command to listfolders that i can remove
[22:05] <dr_willis> waiting for a phone call to head out the door.
[22:05] <cordoval> with highest file count
[22:06] <Mrpickleface> dr_willis: okay well I'm having no luck with my graphic card problem..:S
[22:06] <brophat> a couple times when I had chrome browser open and I right clicked on the browser icon in that menu bar on the left hand side everything froze and I had to hit the power button to reboot.
[22:06] <dr_willis> Mrpickleface:  check the forums and askubuntu.com for your exact video card. could be its quirky.
[22:06] <dr_willis> Mrpickleface:  for my 5+ nvidia systems.. takes me all of like 2 min to get them going.
[22:07] <Mrpickleface> dr_willis: what do you have to do to set them up?..
[22:08] <dr_willis> Mrpickleface:  run jockey-gtk and click click.. reboot... done...
[22:08] <juso> Anyone have an iphone and using it with their ubuntu computer for things?
[22:08] <Belial`> dr_willis, you wouldn't be saying that if you had a system with optimus.
[22:08] <Belial`> although if you did, tell me your secret.
[22:08] <brophat> it does not seem to happen with any of the other apps in the menu bar. is this a known bug?
[22:09] <blackbox> question , I am wondering what the /usr/share/adduser.conf is for and when you would use this instead of the one in /etc ?
[22:09] <dr_willis> Belial`:  then id be saying 'good luck'
[22:09] <Belial`> dr_willis, haha. i hear ya. i'm actually going to give ironhide a crack and see if i get any results.
[22:10] <Belial`> i used bumblebee some time back and it somewhat worked.
[22:10] <Belial`> at this point i just want to turn off my nvidia card for battery life.
[22:10] <graft> brophat: are you familiar with alt-sysrq-R?
[22:10] <dr_willis> Belial`:  im not going to be in the market for a new laptop any time soon.  :) I found a netbook on clearance for $150 it does all i need.
[22:10] <cordoval> what is the best way to output top folders with highest file count?
[22:10] <cordoval> from cli
[22:10] <brophat> graft no
[22:11] <Mrpickleface> dr_willis: hmm okay..that isent working for me..lol
[22:11] <brophat> that reboots from terminal?
[22:11] <graft> brophat: it's a key combination you can use to put your system into 'raw mode', so if x windows is locked up, just hit that and you can ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a tty
[22:11] <Mrpickleface> dr_willis: its weird when I downloaded the 12.3 version I dident have this problem
[22:11] <dr_willis> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/628662/unix-command-to-list-folders-with-file-counts
[22:11] <graft> brophat: then you can kill stuff or restart gdm or whatever
[22:11] <dr_willis> Mrpickleface:  im not clear on what all you have done. so really cant suggest anything else.
[22:11] <NeedHelp> Hello everybody
[22:11] <brophat> graft ok
[22:12] <NeedHelp> Could anyone help me to adjust resolution settings?
[22:12] <guntbert> graft: sudo du -s /* | sort -n
[22:12] <brophat> graft have you heard of the bug I have here?
[22:12] <Mrpickleface> dr_willis: how do I get my exact graphic card name ?
[22:12] <graft> brophat: nope
[22:12] <dr_willis> Mrpickleface:  check lspci output, or hwinfo output
[22:12] <graft> brophat: are you running compiz or something like that?
[22:13] <graft> brophat: oh wait you clicked the unity icon
[22:13] <NeedHelp> How can set resolution to start from upper left corner?
[22:13] <guntbert> graft: sudo du -s /* | sort -nr   (sorry, I forgot the r)
[22:13] <graft> guntbert: eh?
[22:13] <NeedHelp> anybody?
[22:13] <dr_willis> NeedHelp:  more details would be helpfull..
[22:14] <brophat> graft I had something like it but I unistalled it
[22:14] <brophat> just today I uninstalled it
[22:14] <guntbert> graft: were you not asking for a way to get your folders sorted by size?
[22:14] <NeedHelp> i have installed 15" lcd insted of 14.1" to my laptop
[22:14] <graft> guntbert: nope, you got me confused with someone else mate
[22:14] <NeedHelp> so resolution is out of visible area
[22:14] <brophat> forget what it was called, looks like mac tray
[22:14] <guntbert> graft: sorry :)
[22:15] <graft> brophat: ah... well, some buggy software could definitely lock up the system
[22:15] <brophat> ok
[22:15] <eutheria> can i force a package downgrade?
[22:15] <guntbert> cordoval:  sudo du -s /* | sort -nr
[22:15] <graft> eutheria: yes
[22:15] <EvilResistance> eutheria:  depends on what package, but you can force it...
[22:15] <NeedHelp> no help? :)
[22:15] <EvilResistance> eutheria:  downgrading a package may sometimes break things though
[22:15] <graft> NeedHelp: what's your question?
[22:16] <brophat> graft what are the key combinations for alt-sysrq-R ??
[22:16] <eutheria> EvilResistance, i will risk it
[22:16] <NeedHelp> graf: i need move screen to left
[22:16] <graft> brophat: just that, Alt, sysRq (it's on your keyboard somewhere, look around), R
[22:16] <brophat> ok bwahahaha
[22:16] <graft> brophat: usually SysRq is with the print screen key
[22:16] <dr_willis> sysreq = printscreen here.
[22:17] <brophat> ok found it
[22:17] <dr_willis> some laptops make it very hard to actually use sysreq
[22:17] <brophat> it was next to the funciont keys
[22:17] <graft> brophat: yeah... do you know how to kill stuff from a terminal?
[22:17] <NeedHelp> hoe
[22:17] <cordoval> guntbert,[~]# du -s ~/* | sort -nr
[22:18] <eutheria> ok next question, how can i force a downgrade?
[22:18] <cordoval> but it does not go that deeper
[22:18] <brophat> graft as with everything else in linux, I at one time knew how
[22:18] <NeedHelp> How to adjust position using modeline?
[22:18] <graft> NeedHelp: what do you mean, move screen to left?
[22:18] <brophat> jsut a matter of remembering
[22:18] <NeedHelp> i mean i need change visible area
[22:18] <brophat> but it is something i should remember and write down this time
[22:18] <graft> brophat: well, next time you have a problem, alt-sysrq-r, ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a tty, login, kill away
[22:19] <BarkingFish> graft: quickest way is to check with ps aux  what programs are running, then type  killall <name of program>
[22:19] <graft> BarkingFish: i know, thanks, i was just checking if brophat did for his own sake :)
[22:19] <Mrpickleface> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 1040 (rev a1) does that help dr_willis ?
[22:19] <dr_willis> i normally can get to a console with alt-ctrl-f1, rarely recall using alt-sysreq-r
[22:19] <BarkingFish> you can also use the signal codes if you know them, like kill -11 mplayer  or whatever
[22:19] <BarkingFish> ah, ok then, sorry
[22:19] <dr_willis> Mrpickleface:  mans nothign to me. I thought you said it was a 520 or somthing earlier.
[22:19] <dr_willis> Mrpickleface:  it may be its to new for 11.10
[22:20] <graft> dr_willis: yeah, alt-sysrq-r is only in cases where X stops recognizing keyboard input for whatever reason
[22:20] <Mrpickleface> dr_willis: im using 10.04
[22:20] <Mrpickleface> dr_willis: its actually old lol
[22:20] <dr_willis> Mrpickleface:  i suggest trying 11.10 then.
[22:20] <NeedHelp> any hacker who could help me please pm
[22:20] <graft> Mrpickleface: don't try 11.10
[22:21] <Mrpickleface> dr_willis: same problem on it with the card...
[22:21] <brophat> graft guess this would be a way to kill program http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5681010/stop-an-application-through-terminal
[22:21] <dr_willis> NeedHelp:  'hacker' is a vague and meaningless word...
[22:21] <Mrpickleface> graft: ?
[22:21] <klemmerj> New to (X)ubuntu - Quick Q on Xubuntu desktop icons: The default seems to be to have everything in $HOME on the desktop.  How does one change this so that only the default icons and items in the $HOME/Desktop dir are visible?
[22:21] <dr_willis> Mrpickleface:  but 12.04 alpha worked?
[22:21] <Mrpickleface> dr_willis: yes
[22:21] <guntbert> cordoval: try with      find . -maxdepth 1 -type d -print | xargs du -sk | sort -rn
[22:21] <klemmerj> This is on a new install of 11.10
[22:22] <juso> Curious, Does anyone use ubuntu as their only OS?
[22:22] <graft> me!
[22:22] <NeedHelp> Anybody know good manual about modeline?
[22:22] <blackbox> I am curious the linux folder structure /bin /sbin /dev /proc ,...etc which files have to be with the kernel and not on a seperate partition or gotton off a nfs network?
[22:23] <klemmerj> FWIW, I have Fedora, CentOS, Win7 and Xubuntu at the moment.
[22:23] <juso> graft, oh yah? how long so far?
[22:23] <guntbert> !ot | juso
[22:23] <graft> juso: ten years, i think
[22:23] <blackbox> like does /var directory have to be on the same partition as /boot ,...etc
[22:23] <atapia984> I use Ubuntu as my only OS got rid of Winblows 7 the minute I got my laptop
[22:23] <graft> juso: well, i was using debian for a while, i switched to ubuntu i think with hardy or warty
[22:26] <dr_willis> blackbox:  /boot/ can be its own partition.
[22:26] <Mrpickleface> im getting so frusterated lol
[22:27] <juso> graft, so you just don't buy any hardware that wouldn't work with ubuntu, as its starting to limit me, things I need to make tasks much easier is the software that can only be installed on mac/windows
[22:27] <dr_willis> i alwyas tend to buy hardware thats been out for at least 6 mo Mrpickleface  :)
[22:27] <NeedHelp> Okay guys tell me how to set resolution to start pixels from custom
[22:27] <NeedHelp> ?
[22:27] <graft> juso: i haven't really had that many hardware issues, but i usually don't go out of my way to get the bleeding edge stuff
[22:28] <dr_willis> NeedHelp:  to clarify.. You replaced a laptops Internal LCD screen with one of higher res?
[22:29] <juso> I don't look at it as bleeding edge, I look at it as will it save me time/is it convenient. example a fax/scanner/printer - the software is amazing for the one I have
[22:29] <cordoval> anyone knows what the a pear cache folder is generated on tmp?
[22:29] <llutz> !fhs | blackbox
[22:29] <the-master> does anyone know if AOL desktop can be installed on Ubuntu?
[22:30] <dr_willis> AOL still has a desktop app?
[22:30] <dr_willis> !appdb | the-master
[22:30] <the-master> Dr_willis: yes, they do, I love the chat feature
[22:31]  * dr_willis can imagine the chat aol users have... (oh wait..sorry that sounded mean...) :)
[22:31] <KingPin> hahahaha
[22:31] <KingPin> yeah it did. yet amusing
[22:31] <klemmerj> New to (X)ubuntu - Quick Q on Xubuntu desktop icons: The default seems to be to have everything in $HOME on the desktop.  How does one change this so that only the default icons and items in the $HOME/Desktop dir are visible?
[22:31] <dr_willis> Dosent AOL chat use that AOL im client?
[22:31] <KingPin> so in effect any oscar based client?
[22:31] <pooltable> help have xfce installed how do i lock my computer ?
[22:31] <graft> juso: do you mean the software that comes on a CD with your printer, etc.?
[22:31] <brophat> graft I tested that alt sysrq R combo and it did not reboot my computer. maybe my keyboard just isn't talking to ubuntu so well
[22:32] <the-master> lol @ dr_willis, unfortunately not...they are two separate clients, AIM can't get on AOL chats, but they can get on AIM chats
[22:32] <reisio> pooltable: xscreensaver-command lock
[22:32] <reisio> pooltable: xscreensaver-command -lock even
[22:32] <sskalnik> pooltable:  click on your name, then 'lock screen'?
[22:32] <graft> brophat: it's not to reboot the computer, it's to release your keyboard from a locked-up X windows
[22:32] <brophat> ahh ok
[22:33] <graft> brophat: there are other combos that do reboot the system, see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[22:33] <brophat> graft when I go to terminal with ctrl alt F1 how do I get back to the gui?
[22:33] <pooltable> sskalnik i do not see my name where is it?
[22:33] <brophat> ok thanks
[22:33] <graft> brophat: ctrl-alt-f7 or ctrl-alt-f8
[22:33] <blackbox> typically , on a large linux server/super computer how do they setup the linux directories . (i.e do they use seperate partitions for each folder /bin /var /...etc or can they use each on on seperate disks ,or is their some other standard way system admins set it up)
[22:33] <mintux>  in gnome3 how to add applet to my panel or move them?
[22:33] <juso> graft: yes, has some great features
[22:34] <NeedHelp> dr_willis: i replaced screen with lower res and cant get screen in right position
[22:34] <graft> juso: usually i find that stuff to be garbage, but to each his own
[22:34] <juso> Why would it be garbage exactly?
[22:35] <llutz> blackbox: ##linux
[22:35] <guntbert> juso: please keep discussions here to ubuntu support
[22:35] <sskalnik> pooltable:  usually in the upper right hand corner
[22:35] <mintux> left click doesn't work
[22:36] <pooltable> sskalnik i see it i had to add session menu and thanks
[22:36] <mario12> hey
[22:36] <wiredvamp> i am try to get my webcam to work on skype
[22:36] <sskalnik> pooltable:  no prob, enjoy xfce!
[22:37] <pooltable> sskalnik i am now i use to it in a few days
[22:37] <klemmerj> Anyone out there have an idea?  Or a pointer as to where to look for a solution?
[22:38] <blackbox> google is the best one
[22:38] <guntbert> klemmerj: did you ask in #xubuntu? they might better know what is the matter
[22:40] <klemmerj> Good idea.  Now to figure out how to get there.  This is my first go at IRC.  Thanks.
[22:41] <guntbert> klemmerj: /join #xubuntu
[22:41] <sjuxax> Just a quick poll: what do you have make -j?
[22:42] <reisio> klemmerj: sounds like your config is confused
[22:42] <guntbert> sjuxax: don't take polls in this channel please
[22:42] <klemmerj> guntbert: thanks.  you'd think after 30 years i'd have used this puppy at least one already.  :-/
[22:43] <guntbert> klemmerj: Good luck :-)
[22:43] <klemmerj> reisio: I concur.
[22:44] <helpmePlz> guys please, I've spent 12 hours
[22:45] <helpmePlz> how the hell do i play a asx strem file
[22:45] <helpmePlz> on ubuntu
[22:45] <helpmePlz> on firefox it crashes, on chrominum it says missing plugin
[22:45] <helpmePlz> I've tried every tutorial only to fail.
[22:45] <edbian> helpmePlz, hang on
[22:45] <edbian> helpmePlz, lemme look it up
[22:45] <helpmePlz> Thanks.
[22:45] <helpmePlz> I looked up but the mplayer extensions and vlc player stuff don't seem to work :/
[22:46] <dr_willis> helpmePlz:  got a url to the stream for testing?
[22:46] <helpmePlz> http://www.voanews.com/wm/voa/africa/soma/soma1700a.asx
[22:46] <edbian> helpmePlz, yeah first thing I saw mplayer
[22:46] <helpmePlz> Doesn't work regardless of what I do, seriously considering switch back to crap windows xp
[22:47] <dr_willis> I thought you could do somthing like  'vlc  http://www.voanews.com/wm/voa/africa/soma/soma1700a.asx
[22:47] <helpmePlz> Everything else in ubuntu works flawlessly
[22:47] <edbian> helpmePlz, so you have installed mplayer and  mozilla-mplayer
[22:47] <helpmePlz> Correct edbian
[22:47] <helpmePlz> neither seem to work.
[22:47] <edbian> helpmePlz, and you've restarted firefox?
[22:47] <helpmePlz> Yes.
[22:47] <helpmePlz> Restart, reinstalled everything.
[22:47] <edbian> helpmePlz, are you sure the process died?
[22:47] <helpmePlz> .asx files will not stream.
[22:47] <helpmePlz> edbian:  very sure.
[22:47] <pooltable> i have mplayer install how do i change the skin it get it to work via gui
[22:48] <graft> pooltable: install smplayer
[22:48] <edbian> helpmePlz, start firefox in the term and try to play the file.  This way you'll get errors
[22:48] <pooltable> graft i have that
[22:48] <dr_willis> i cant get that url to play in windows....
[22:48] <graft> pooltable: so what's your issue?
[22:49] <helpmePlz> So no simple solution to stream .asx files?
[22:49] <helpmePlz> I figured this would be trivial to solve.
[22:49] <dr_willis>  http://www.voanews.com/wm/voa/africa/soma/soma1700a.asx
[22:50] <bsmith093> vlc?
[22:50] <pooltable> graft just trying to get it wo work mplayer but with vlc i go to full screen but i still see the top and bottom of my computer mune bar how do i fix it ?
[22:50] <dr_willis> there we go. finally took off in windows... trying it in vlc in windows now. (not on a linxu box with sound)
[22:50] <llutz> helpmePlz: wget that asx-file, edit it, remove the "?WMCache=0" at the end and play it with "mplayer soma1700a.asx
[22:50] <edbian> helpmePlz, did you start firefox in the term and try to play the file that way to see errors?
[22:50] <helpmePlz> http://www.infowars.com/stream.pls that seems to stream
[22:50] <helpmePlz> in banshee
[22:51] <helpmePlz> but anything with a .asx extension will either crash firefox or say "Missing plugin" In chromimum
[22:51] <theadmin> helpmePlz: Hm, my Chromium tries to download the file
[22:52] <dr_willis> chrome here launched windows media player. :) vlc on windows did not start the stream either.
[22:52] <graft> pooltable: with mplayer you see some bars if you fullscreen?
[22:53] <bsmith093> iv ponly had vlc ever choke on things that turned out to not actually be a media file ":)
[22:53] <edbian> dr_willis, did wmp play the .asx stream?
[22:53] <graft> that asx stream seems like it has network issues
[22:53] <dr_willis> edbian:  after about 4 min it started..
[22:54] <dr_willis> edbian:  vlc and smplayer both on windows dotn seem to want to play it.. they dont even try
[22:54] <edbian> dr_willis, mmm
[22:54] <edbian> helpmePlz, test this with a different .asx stream
[22:54] <dr_willis> oh wait.. they may just be slow like wmp... smplayer is now buffering
[22:55] <dr_willis> smplayer is working with http://www.voanews.com/wm/voa/africa/soma/soma1700a.asx   under windows.
[22:55] <dr_willis> No idea what language they are speaking. :) but it is working on smplayer for me.
[22:56] <helpmeplz_2> gawd... why does linux hate me
[22:57] <helpmeplz_2> Back to the issue I was having with .asx streaming
[22:57] <helpmeplz_2> any feedback? or quick fixes
[22:57] <mcc> Hello, just set up a new Ubuntu by downloading a virtualbox image... is there a way to remove/uninstall this "messaging menu"?
[22:57] <edbian> indeed, why is linux so awful at player an obscure proprietary format video stream
[22:57] <dr_willis> cut/paste the url  into mplayer
[22:57] <dr_willis> Its audio only. :)
[22:57] <theadmin> dr_willis: Huh, I dunno why VLC fails for you, it works nicely for me
[22:58] <helpmeplz_2> theadmin: is it streaming from the browser?
[22:58] <dr_willis> theadmin:  the stream takes like 4 min to even get started.. may be i was impatient.
[22:58] <helpmeplz_2> It starts almost instantly on windows, any way to increase caching speed?
[22:58] <dr_willis> helpmeplz_2:  im on widows.. and it definatly did not start instantly here..
[22:58] <theadmin> helpmeplz_2: No it ain't, I disabled the browser plugin and just told Chrome to open files in VLC so it works... I hate browser media player plugins
[22:58] <theadmin> They're annoying
[22:59] <dr_willis> yep - i agree with theadmin ..
[22:59] <OerHeks> dr_willis, i guess that samoa stream never had that much listeners from all over the world
[22:59] <helpmeplz_2> theadmin:  how can I do what you did?
[22:59] <helpmeplz_2> To get vlc to open it via chrome
[22:59] <theadmin> helpmeplz_2: Type "about:plugins" in Chromium's address bar, disable the VLC plugin, then download an asx file, mark "Always open this kind of file".
[23:00] <mcc> Another question... I'm trying to uninstall some of the software that came with Ubuntu... I clicked Remove on one and it said... ""If you uninstall Gwibber Social Client, future updates will not include new items in The Ubuntu desktop system set. Are you sure you want to continue?"
[23:00] <mcc> ...What does this mean? does this mean if I uninstall Gwibber, then I will not get future updates with Gwibber if I do an automatic software upgrade?
[23:00] <mcc> Or does it mean that I'm opting out of gui upgrades if I uninstall "gwibber"?
[23:00] <theadmin> mcc: Pretty much means Gwibber will be excluded from updates
[23:00] <helpmeplz_2> theadmin:  thank you very much, goodbye folks.
[23:01] <edbian> mcc, that's right
[23:01] <mcc> Great, thanks
[23:01] <edbian> mcc, if you uninstall gwibber you will not get updates to the gwibber package
[23:04] <mario12> hey
[23:04] <edbian> mario12, hi
[23:05] <mario12> trying to recover deleted partition with TestDisk
[23:05] <vouth> Hi!! <3 Could someone talk me through using Compiz exclusively with software rendering?
[23:05] <mario12> anyone knows, how to go about it?
[23:05] <ptaylor> join #ubuntu-server
[23:05] <edbian> ptaylor, who?
[23:06] <edbian> ptaylor, ur missing the / ;)
[23:06] <mcc> Is there not a way though to remove this "messaging menu", the little menu that has a mail envelope for an icon? I couldn't find any way to do so on google...
[23:06] <NotJimCarrey> i'm upgrading my media server's storage drive to a 3tb drive and i'm gonna use XFS on it. anyone know if clonezille (or something simialar) can clone from a NTFS partition to an XFS partition?
[23:08] <blackbox> use dd   not jim carrey
[23:09] <theadmin> mcc: It's a part of the Indicator Applet. Search for that and uninstall it, but you'll lose some other menus like IM integration thing
[23:09] <blackbox> it is in your /bin directory be careful though
[23:09] <mcc> theadmin thank you
[23:10] <r4y> I know I've tried to look up this before, but I never tried any programs regarding my question. Isn't there a program to compare any 2 types of files to tell if they are the same?
[23:10] <mcc> Huh, that's odd. Somehow I've only installed one keyboard layout and it's Italian...
[23:10] <NotJimCarrey> blackbox: since i'm moving nearly 1Tb, what would be the faster way? would just using a minimal boot disk be sufficient?
[23:10] <r4y> I don't have much time, so I will be going soon.
[23:11] <mcc> theadmin basically i don't want to be doing anything like IM at all with this particular install, it is a VM I am using for builds
[23:11] <mario12> deleted partition anyone?
[23:11] <theadmin> mcc: Ah cool, I beleive it's called "gnome-indicator-applet" or something, find that package and get rid of it
[23:12] <blackbox> what is your main objective just to back up partition , or a large on , or does time matter ,...what ?
[23:13] <r4y> I am sorry Mario, I don't think I have had that problem before but I could be wrong
[23:14] <trism> mcc: the envelope is indicator-messages
[23:14] <NotJimCarrey> blackbox: it's mostly media files (so almost all files are 1Gb or larger) and time is somewhat helpful, though I could always set it to run when i go to bed
[23:14] <r4y> Isn't Mario asking how to fix a deleted partition?
[23:15] <edbian> r4y, how to recover a deleted one
[23:15] <r4y> That's what I meant, yes
[23:15] <edbian> blackbox, did you figure out your security problem
[23:15] <blackbox> testdisk to fix deleted partitions
[23:16] <r4y> I got rid of the evolution envelope before in the applets on the top right
[23:17] <cordoval> what is going on with ubuntu, not sure if it is my hardware or ubuntu
[23:17] <r4y> I mean evolution will still be installed
[23:17] <Mrpickleface> http://askubuntu.com/questions/91396/my-graphics-card-is-not-working-everything-is-really-huge
[23:17] <cordoval> the windows go crazy and circular handles appear on each corner
[23:17] <NotJimCarrey> is 6 hours an acurate estimate for moving 932Gb's from an NTFS drive to an XFS drive over SATA?
[23:17] <cordoval> to move or drag or something
[23:18] <cordoval> so how can i fix this? the window seems to have controls i have never seen before, to enlarge, move around, etc
[23:18] <cordoval> but i cannot control it anymore with mouse and it hides
[23:18] <cordoval> the cursos
[23:18] <cordoval> cursor
[23:18] <lee17> hi
[23:18] <cordoval> anyone seeing this kind of behavior or is it related to my asusg73jw touchpad
[23:18] <cordoval> hi lee17
[23:19] <r4y> mcc: to remove the evolution indicator from the applet: sudo apt-get remove indicator-messages then do killall gnome-panel
[23:19] <r4y> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1470786
[23:19] <lee17> hi cordoval im trying to partition my computer to install ubuntu.. i currently have windows 7 i don't know what to do
[23:19] <cordoval> lee17, remove windows
[23:19] <cordoval> just use ubuntu
[23:19] <cordoval> there is nothing you cannot do with ubunt
[23:19] <mcc> r4y: i think i removed it using the gui tool... i am resetting now, i'll see if it works
[23:19] <mcc> theadmin trism r4y thanks much
[23:19] <r4y> no problem
[23:20] <edbian> cordoval, You cannot stream netflix
[23:20] <r4y> It's one of the few things I made note of in a text file
[23:20] <theadmin> edbian: Who really needs that anyway?
[23:20] <edbian> theadmin, it's the best for MST3k
[23:20] <mcc> hooray, messaging menu is gone
[23:21] <r4y> ya, if you use Firefox get these 2 add-ons: downthemall and downloadhelper
[23:21] <lee17> cordoval: i can't do that since i have work requiring a lot of OS to use
[23:21] <cordoval> anyone seeing weird effects on windows on ubuntu
[23:21] <sskalnik> lee17:  The installer should present you with an option to shrink the Windows partition and use the freed space for Ubuntu
[23:21] <sythe> hey
[23:21] <cordoval> whenever this happens i see circular organge controls on every corner of my windows
[23:21] <cordoval> I have never seen these controls efore
[23:21] <cordoval> before
[23:21] <cordoval> help
[23:21] <sythe> I'm using Wubi
[23:21] <r4y> O coarse those are just options I made, but they work for me if you go to the right websites
[23:22] <sythe> How can I upgrade to 11.10 w/o everything breaking?\
[23:22] <edbian> sythe, do you mean to 12.04 alpha ?
[23:22] <r4y> I've never succeeded when upgrading Ubuntu through the terminal
[23:23] <r4y> It has always become broken
[23:23] <sythe> edbian: No... the newest LTS
[23:23]  * mcc upgraded from Ubuntu 10 to Ubuntu 11 an hour or so ago... I did it by erasing the hard drive and reinstalling
[23:23] <cordoval> anyone?
[23:23] <edbian> sythe, 11.10 is the newest version, the newest LTS is older than it
[23:23] <sythe> mcc: Not an option
[23:23] <ubuntuser1> hello,
[23:23] <mcc> or well it was a vm so i deleted the hard drive and created a new one - _ -
[23:23] <cordoval> orange window controllers, windows move like crazy
[23:23] <mcc> yeah. not generally an option.
[23:23] <cordoval> anyone?
[23:24] <sythe> edbian: Well...then 10.10
[23:24] <edbian> sythe, You wanna go back?
[23:24] <BarkingFish> r4y: I've only been able to upgrade through a terminal, doing it in GUI has always gone wrong this end.
[23:24] <sskalnik> sythe:  Newest LTS is either 10.04 or the 12.04 which is released in 2012
[23:24] <edbian> sythe, 10.04 was an LTS btw
[23:24] <sythe> edbian: Yay!
[23:24] <r4y> I use CDs or a USB to upgrade but if you have a lot to back up and transfer upgrading through a terminal is understandable
[23:24] <sskalnik> sythe:  Which version are you on now?
[23:24] <Resistance> sskalnik:  10.04 is the only LTS currently out there.  until 12.04 is released at least.
[23:24] <sythe> So...how can I do updates in 10.04 w/o it messing up?
[23:24] <Resistance> just an FYI
[23:25] <ubuntuser1> I have a network printer but I have no idea what is the IP and it is already configured in the system. I would like to know if there is a command to get the list of devices within the network in order to find out what is the IP of the printer
[23:25] <Resistance> sythe:  what type of updates do you want to do?
[23:25] <sskalnik> Resistance:  I thought that was what I wrote
[23:25] <sythe> Resistance: Standard, everyday updates...and kernel ones, too
[23:25] <compitz> hi guys
[23:25] <Resistance> sskalnik:  was clarifying your statements ;P
[23:25] <sskalnik> Resistance:  Roger
[23:25] <compitz> edbian and escott, are you there?
[23:25] <r4y> O, well then
[23:25] <Resistance> sythe:  then don't use an LTS, if you want the everyday updates like are in 11.10/11.04/etc. you'll have to *always* be on the latest release
[23:25] <benn1> hello people
[23:25] <sythe> Resistance: Ideally, just security ones...this is basically a server...so...I can't update/reinstall much
[23:25] <benn1> XMAS!!
[23:26] <Resistance> sythe:  security updates are usually installed anyways
[23:26] <Resistance> sythe:  at least the major security updates
[23:26] <sythe> Resistance: Really?
[23:26] <benn1> when i stream a video in my firefox browser.. how can i find the file of the video in tmp?
[23:26] <MrFisherman> Is there a safe downgrade to mesa video driver, if i don't like the ATI Proprietary driver?
[23:26] <sythe> Resistance: I'm using Chrome 8...probably not that secure
[23:26] <r4y> I don't know what the order is supposed to be but I do sudo apt-get upgrade then sudo apt-get update, and also sudo apt-get check
[23:26] <sskalnik> What is a good program for testing out serial interfaces? Something that could do a loopback.
[23:27] <Resistance> sythe:  you can always check for backports of the versions you want, or you can try to find versions in PPAs for lucid, but generally Lucid is kept up to date
[23:27] <mcc> Does Chrome on linux upgrade itself like on win/mac, or does it have to upgrade through apt?
[23:27] <Resistance> sythe:  download the deb installer from Google and install then
[23:27] <Resistance> it'll be newer than Chrome 8 iirc
[23:27] <Resistance> mcc:  i think it has to upgrade through apt
[23:27] <benn1> i remember older version of flash aloud ubuntu to find it in tmp folder
[23:27] <compitz> does anyone know if there is like a startup safe-mode for ubuntu lucid? i disabled my nvidia driver for using the open source one, now i got a blank screen on startup. got no ID how to handle this
[23:27] <sythe> Resistance: So...if I never open the update manager...ever...how secure is Ubuntu 10.04?\
[23:28] <MrFisherman> compitz, did you google?
[23:28] <Mrpickleface> how do I install nvidia-current ?
[23:28] <sskalnik> compitz:  Does Ctrl Alt F2 give you a terminal?
[23:28] <Resistance> sythe:  pretty insecure... you should still update like you normally would
[23:28] <Resistance> sythe:  or set up unattended upgrades
[23:28] <MrFisherman> Is there a safe downgrade to open video driver, if i don't like the ATI Proprietary driver?
[23:29] <sythe> Resistance: Updates break my install...I used Wubi
[23:29] <sythe> wubi + updates = broken install
[23:29] <benn1> ahm
[23:29] <cordoval> anyone seeing orange circular controls on every corner of the windows on ubuntu latest?
[23:29] <benn1> hello?
[23:29] <Resistance> ...
[23:29] <cordoval> windows are going crazy
[23:29] <theadmin> MrFisherman: Just remove the ATI one and delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:29] <Resistance> i'm not going to comment on wubi :p
[23:29] <compitz> sskalnik, MrFisherman, no i think f8 shows something, but then when loading is complete, still a blank screen. i think every f-key does f8 screen
[23:29] <phiil_> ubuntu sooooo copied fedora in like everything
[23:29] <buyung_> #test
[23:29] <sythe> Resistance: Well...it's true, right?
[23:29] <MrFisherman> theadmin,  TY
[23:29] <phiil_> they are sooooo copy cats
[23:29] <Resistance> sythe:  if you're using wubi to run a server on your system, you need to reexamine your purposes of running a server
[23:30] <theadmin> MrFisherman: Well, and make sure you have at least one other driver installed
[23:30] <phiil_> fedora is da copy cats
[23:30] <phiil_> copy cats
[23:30] <benn1> where does the youtube files get saved?
[23:30] <sythe> Resistance: No CD drive
[23:30] <phiil_> hahaha copy cats
[23:30] <Resistance> !offtopic | phiil_
[23:30] <benn1> its not in tmp
[23:30] <benn1> folder
[23:30] <theadmin> phiil_: Ubuntu does NOTHING like Fedora, you've gotta be kidding me
[23:30] <Resistance> sythe:  so write the images to a USB image
[23:30] <theadmin> benn1: What browser you use?
[23:30] <benn1> neither in /mozilla/firefox/cache
[23:30] <MrFisherman> theadmin,  what is the default package for ATI if i may?
[23:30] <Resistance> sythe:  i use USB installation images :p
[23:30] <phiil_> ummmm... look at the side popup thingy?
[23:30] <compitz> sskalnik, MrFisherman, i m gonna try the terminal later , first google it
[23:30] <sythe> Resistance: USB installs are flaky...REALLY FLAKY
[23:30] <Resistance> sythe:  they're the same ISOs from the Ubuntu site, just written onto USB sticks
[23:30] <phiil_> at the left side
[23:30] <Resistance> i then install from that
[23:30] <Resistance> onto the standard hard drive
[23:30] <benn1> theadmin:firefox
[23:31] <sskalnik> compitz:  Good plan
[23:31] <cordoval> anyone ever saw controls for touchpad perhaps circular orange buttons, on every corner and the center of the current window, the window moves like crazy shifting etc, is this a hardware problem?
[23:31] <Resistance> sythe:  i dont *run* from the USB sticks, i *install from* them
[23:31] <Resistance> sythe:  onto the hard drive, usually in a dual boot configuration
[23:31] <ikpL> hello everyone, I am using ubuntu 11.10, my laptop is logging off automatically and shows me log on screen
[23:31] <sythe> Resistance: but...they...don't work as well
[23:31] <ikpL> what is the problem
[23:31] <theadmin> MrFisherman: I beleive, uh... I dunno. I know the propertiary one is fglrx
[23:31] <Resistance> sythe:  if i really need linux in windows, i grab virtualbox
[23:31] <benn1> i am using flash 11
[23:31] <MrFisherman> yea is...
[23:31] <phiil_> no just running from usb sticks is ub3r 1337,, someone told me so
[23:31] <Resistance> sythe:  who the heck said they dont work as well?
[23:32] <benn1> i know that flash 10 does it but where does flash 11 makes the tmp's go
[23:32] <Resistance> sythe:  if you read that online, you need to get rid of the notion they dont work as well
[23:32] <benn1> for videos
[23:32] <sskalnik> ikpL:  check power settings; sounds like you are being logged off due to inactivity
[23:32] <phiil_> did u guys social my isp?
[23:32] <sythe> Resistance: I said...I've tried them in the past...like...year....and they didn't
[23:32] <ikpL> sskalnik , not that
[23:32] <ubuntuser1> is there a command to find out the ips of the devices within my network_
[23:32] <Resistance> benn1:  inside firefox's cache folder.  and they're stored in smaller parts, not in entire videos
[23:32] <Resistance> sythe:  then i'll stand by my statement you need to reexamine why you want Linux.
[23:32] <phiil_> please dont, my isp is ub3r 1337
[23:32] <sythe> Resistance: Why does Wubi suckso much?
[23:32] <ikpL> sskalnik , it logs off which I am active for no particular reason
[23:33] <phiil_> so dont even think about it
[23:33] <Resistance> sythe:  if you're booting Linux from within Wubi (aka windows) you have to have a very good reason
[23:33] <sythe> Resistance: Stability, mostly
[23:33] <Resistance> sythe:  tell that to this system, runs perfectly stable in dual boot
[23:33] <Resistance> sythe:  the system i'm on is in dual boot config 11.04 and Win7
[23:33] <benn1> hmm..resistance i still think the tmp file is somewhere else...
[23:33] <compitz> sskalnik, MrFisherman, something was strange: when i booted from the lucid live cd, there was a login screen in livecd, is there a username ubuntuuser or sth?, couldnt figure it out...
[23:34] <benn1> like windows temp folder or... ubuntu with flash 10 tmp folder
[23:34] <Resistance> benn1:  why do you want the tmp file from youtube?  its easier to rip the data from youtube using another site to do it or something
[23:34] <sskalnik> sythe:  USB installs are definitely not flaky. I've done ~200 of them. You may have had a bad drive. Also, if you want a server, you don't want Wubi.
[23:34] <sythe> Resistance: Well...no CD drive, I dislike Unity, and I've always considered USB installs to be flaky
[23:34] <sythe> sskalnik: Why not?
[23:34] <Resistance> sythe:  then i think you need to stop using Linux... because the USB installer is NOT flaky
[23:34] <Resistance> sythe:  installing linux *to* a USB stick may be flaky
[23:34] <greylurk> USB installs are occasionally flaky with really old hardware, but with anything in the last 3-5 years, it should be fine.
[23:34] <sythe> Resistance: Well...ah...
[23:34] <benn1> Resistance the thing is there are some videos that i want to extract out of the browser from other players
[23:34] <sskalnik> sythe:  you'll get performance and stability and so on from a real install.
[23:34] <diablo84> Hi.
[23:34] <sythe> Resistance: EXACTLY
[23:35] <Resistance> sythe:  installing linux *from* a LiveUSB (aka live CD image on the USB stick for installation) is not
[23:35] <Resistance> sythe:  installing from the LiveUSB to a hard drive is not flaky at all
[23:35] <sythe> installing linux *to* a USB stick...
[23:35] <Resistance> 11.10 in and of itself is flaky
[23:35] <mcc> Is there a good simple code editor for ubuntu that has like a split-pane edit feature within a file, like vi :split?
[23:35] <Resistance> sythe:  so don't install it to a USB stick
[23:35] <mcc> Actually I guess I could just install gvim...
[23:35] <Resistance> sythe:  install it to the system you run Windows on, in dual boot
[23:35] <Resistance> alongside windows
[23:35] <Resistance> without isntalling *in* windows
[23:35] <diablo84> I played a vid using mplayer, and it played well for a while then sound totally disappeared from the whole system. Nothing plays sound: aplay, mplayer, mocp, etc. What should I do?
[23:35] <greylurk> Reistance: 11.10 is a big improvement over 11.04 though.
[23:35] <Resistance> greylurk:  not when you're using KDE :P
[23:35] <Resistance> greylurk:  i'm on Ubuntu + kde-standard :P
[23:36] <greylurk> Resistance: who uses KDE anymore :-P
[23:36] <ubuntuser1> is there a place in ubuntu where I can add a custom size for a sheet to select it when printing?
[23:36] <sythe> Resistance: installing linux *to* a USB stick...THEN...installing from the USB to a hard drive NEVER worked for me
[23:36] <metaspike> heh. diablo84 check your cables? :)
[23:36] <Resistance> sythe:  you dont install to the USB stick to install to the driver
[23:36] <metaspike> im not being smart, just that's happened to me b4
[23:36] <Resistance> sythe:  you use unetbootin or the Ubuntu USB Startup Disk Creator to write the image to the USB
[23:36] <diablo84> metspike: It's a laptop, no sound is coming out of the speaker.
[23:36] <Resistance> and then its stable as heck
[23:36] <sythe> Resistance: Well...you can...but...it doesn't work well
[23:36] <cordoval> anyone with this behavior on big orange circular handlers on windows going crazy on unity?
[23:37] <Resistance> sythe:  i'mi going to ask you to stop talking about what you do not know, because half the Linux community uses LiveUSBs over LiveCDs
[23:37] <MrFisherman> There's no official announcement for this release, but it also adds hardware acceleration (OpenGL) support for the Google Chrome web browser and it doesn't fixes the existing GNOME Shell issues.
[23:37] <MrFisherman> hah
[23:37] <metaspike> 2 hour reconfiguration of kernel properties because a cable was loose
[23:37] <Resistance> sythe:  this isnt an argument channel, i've said how you would do this, so if you want to not listen, you're fine not to
[23:37] <metaspike> diablo84, try sudo service pulseaudio restart
[23:37] <Resistance> sythe:  but consider: If installing from Live USB were flaky, why would Ubuntu publish a "how to" to do it from their main download page
[23:37] <Resistance> :p
[23:38]  * Resistance has other important things to do than argue, goes to focus on those
[23:38] <MrFisherman> how can i back up my current video driver settings theadmin?
[23:38] <diablo84> metaspike: Nothing.
[23:38] <sythe> Resistance: Because...they lack the sense to ship Ubuntu with KDE by default ;)
[23:38] <metaspike> Resistance, diablo84, ok, try sudo service alsa restart
[23:39] <sythe> Resistance: therefore...they might do something else stupid
[23:39] <sythe> XD
[23:39] <metaspike> Resistance,  :p... if i was going for a stable ubuntu install, I would get 10.04 alternative installer, and start with a base system...
[23:39] <sigwhite> The answer will probably be no, but is there a foolproof way to sticky the right unity bar (dash?), i.e. disable the auto-hide in fullscreen / dodge windows mode?
[23:39] <diablo84> metaspike: alsa: unrecognized service
[23:40] <compitz> sskalnik, MrFisherman, would it be best to remove the open source driver, then?
[23:40] <metaspike> diablo84,   uh... sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart  ... maybe just restart instead. somethings gone pokey
[23:40] <cordoval> can someone pays attention to my issue please?
[23:41] <metaspike> i just got here, whats wrong cordoval
[23:41] <cordoval> anyone no windows manager issues or something? everytime i use the laptop keyboard/touchpad the windows grow circular controls  and go crazy
[23:41] <cordoval> big orange circules on each corner of the window metaspike
[23:41] <cordoval> i have never seen these controls before
[23:42] <cordoval> it looks like it is something with touchpad ways or something
[23:42] <cordoval> but not sure
[23:42] <cordoval> mouse is just unresponsive etc
[23:42] <greylurk> cordoval: do you have a screenshot?
[23:42] <cordoval> I can try to reproduce it
[23:42] <cordoval> hold it let me touch my mouse pad
[23:43] <diablo84> metaspike: I don't have but alsa-restore and alsa-store there. BTW, I have already restarted my system.
[23:43] <vouth> How can I use Compiz with pure software rendering?
[23:43] <ardian> Hello I need some help I want to Install JAVA SE on ubuntu anyone that can help there are only rpm and tar.gz on oracles java site
[23:44] <compitz> how can i find out if a graphic card is working correctly from live cd?
[23:44] <theadmin> ardian: Install via the partner repository
[23:44] <greylurk> ardian: try to use openjvm if you can.
[23:44] <ardian> I am on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[23:44] <benn1> i mean this is ubuntu room someone must know where vimeo or any video stream in the browser go
[23:44] <metaspike> vouth, with ccsm you can disable alot of compiz's redering methods but it is in nature a gpu accelerated interface
[23:44] <benn1> it used to go in tmmp
[23:44] <benn1> tmp
[23:45] <cordoval> got the screenshot metaspike
[23:45] <cordoval> wait for it it is uploading
[23:45] <cordoval> soon you guys can see what iwa s talking about
[23:45] <cordoval> it feels good to be heard
[23:45] <ionsbrew> I have just installed ubuntu 11.10, I am new to everything and am coming accross problems all the time, still loving it compared to windows xp, should I get an earlier version as i am a newb if so which one? thanks
[23:45] <cordoval> http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/7ieak9ve/Selection_143.png
[23:45] <cordoval> there you go man
[23:45] <metaspike> ardian, you can extract the tar.gz and run the installer herein. oracles java is unfortunately no longer supported due to bad licencing
[23:45] <cordoval> http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/7ieak9ve/Selection_143.png
[23:45] <cordoval> that is the link
[23:45] <FloodBot1> cordoval: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:45] <cordoval> did you get it metaspike
[23:45] <cordoval> ?
[23:45] <MrFisherman> how do i backup my X video settings?
[23:45] <compitz> should lspci show my graphic card on live cd, MrFisherman, sskalnik?
[23:46] <ardian> metaspike, I tried to do that but it promts me to this: There is only one alternative in link group java: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java
[23:46] <metaspike> MrFisherman,   cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf.backup
[23:46] <vouth> metaspike: Ok, the issue is that I have no GL rendering enabled (don't know how) but want something similar to Metacity's compositing ability.
[23:47] <MrFisherman> metaspike, cp: cannot stat `/etc/X11/xorg.conf': No such file or directory
[23:47] <vouth> metaspike: How can I do that?
[23:47] <metaspike> cordoval, that's really weird? maybe your touchpad had something on it when the laptop was turned on
[23:48] <compitz> should lspci show my graphic card on live cd session?
[23:48] <cordoval> it has nothing
[23:48] <cordoval> dust? but i mean have you ever seen those controls?
[23:48] <folek> hello
[23:48] <cordoval> those controls dont make sense to me as i have never seen them before elsewhere
[23:48] <cordoval> metaspike, ?
[23:48] <metaspike> MrFisherman, that would be because you are using the defaults, as such there is no xorg configuration
[23:49] <metaspike> wouldbe/couldbe
[23:49] <cordoval> have anyone seen these controls before on unity? http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/7ieak9ve/Selection_143.png
[23:49] <folek> all people here are ubuntu-user?
[23:49] <MrFisherman> can i save the default configuration metaspike?
[23:49] <cordoval> folek, yes
[23:49] <aeon-ltd> folek: no
[23:49] <aeon-ltd> :)
[23:50] <aeon-ltd> folek: 99% yeah they are
[23:50] <folek> anywehe from EU?
[23:50] <folek> anywere from EU?
[23:50] <aeon-ltd> folek: that doesn't matter, if you're looking for language related channels there are
[23:50] <aeon-ltd> folek: ask your real quesion
[23:50] <folek> no i search people they can help me
[23:51] <metaspike> MrFisherman, it could be under /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d  it depends on your setup
[23:51] <ionsbrew> whats a good, stable and functional  version of Ubuntu for a lower end computer ?
[23:51] <aeon-ltd> ionsbrew: lubuntu
[23:51] <cordoval> folek, help you to what?
[23:51] <sskalnik> ionsbrew:  !lubuntu
[23:51] <aeon-ltd> ionsbrew: how low end is low end?
[23:51] <folek> i have 2 laptop
[23:51] <cordoval> it does not matter where they are
[23:51] <ionsbrew> 5 years old
[23:51] <cordoval> ?
[23:51] <folek> 1 with macbuntu and the secound with 11.04
[23:51] <AlanBell> folek: you might be able to find your local team here http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/
[23:51] <cordoval> metaspike, so what can i try?
[23:51] <overclucker> !lubuntu | ionsbrew
[23:52] <ionsbrew> thanks ubottu i shall take a look
[23:52] <metaspike> cordoval, reset the computer or plug in a mouse?
[23:52] <metaspike> and / or? it's totally obsene that should happen
[23:52] <cordoval> both are there
[23:52] <cordoval> i always use a mouse
[23:52] <folek> cordoval i make a new website -i have a good idea - i make a global LUG-Index with all LUG arround the world
[23:52] <cordoval> and i have restarted many tmies the computer
[23:52] <the-master> can anyone tell me what this means? Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[23:52] <aeon-ltd> ionsbrew: actual specs please, if you can provide them
[23:53] <aeon-ltd> the-master: it's a lock file that signifies dpkg or apt is in use
[23:53] <cordoval> hmm
[23:53] <the-master> okay, is there a way to find out what's using it?
[23:53] <compitz> sskalnik, when do i have to try to get to the terminal? when loading or when black screen???
[23:53] <cordoval> weird, the controls happen randomly
[23:54] <metaspike> cordoval, found it, you can disable them apparently they are buggy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/71166/grab-handles-appearing-randomly-causes-erratic-mouse-behavior
[23:54] <folek> in the last 3 days i write a list with of lug from germany austria and switzerland
[23:54] <cordoval> you rock man you got it man you just got it metaspike
[23:54] <Guest0589>  I removed my password from my user account because I found it really annoying to type it in for everything I wanted to install and do to my computer.
[23:54] <cordoval> twice you have helped me
[23:54] <Guest0589>  Now I can't authenticate anything. I go into my user account and it says "password none" and "automatic login on".
[23:55] <Guest0589> Any ideas what is wrong?
[23:55] <folek> no sorry
[23:55] <Guest0589> folek: ?
[23:55] <metaspike> Guest0589, can you login at all?
[23:56] <Guest0589> metaspike: yes
[23:56] <the-master> aeon-ltd: is there a way to find out what is using that file?
[23:56] <folek> www.cvf.24.eu
[23:56] <metaspike> and you cant... authenticate anything? what do you mean?
[23:56] <cordoval> he is using an asus too
[23:58] <metaspike> Guest0589, passwd - in terminal to redefine a users password...
[23:58] <folek> hey are all from england?
[23:58] <aeon-ltd> the-master: not sure on that one, other than checking processes for instances of apt and dpkg
[23:59] <aeon-ltd> the-master: it also stays there if apt or dpkg was killed half way through use
[23:59] <the-master> aeon-ltd: how would I go about doing that?
[23:59] <folek> who is from contry? i am from germany
[23:59] <metaspike> yep. it means something else is using dpkg/apt or you dont have enough permissions
[23:59] <sskalnik> compitz:  You should be able to get a terminal by using Ctrl + Alt + F2
[23:59] <the-master> Aeon-ltd: Then I know exactly what did that, how do I rectify the situation