=== Exio is now known as Nax | ||
jrmy | I'm thinking I'm really gonna like 11.10 | 04:14 |
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jrmy | the cd installation is much more friendly and vivid | 04:14 |
jrmy | almost reminds me of windows xp | 04:14 |
jrmy | so I hope one day xubuntu can get community pages as advanced and knowledgable as the ubuntu community pages (help pages) | 04:16 |
Unit193 | They are mostly compatible | 04:18 |
jrmy | but when it comes to advanced thinsg they aren't | 04:19 |
jrmy | at least as far as anything else I've tried to learn | 04:19 |
jrmy | I do want to become a better linux user... I just seem to hit a wall though | 04:20 |
jrmy | and I liek xfce too much to use ubuntu | 04:20 |
jrmy | but it has been 3 months since I've checked anythign out | 04:21 |
Unit193 | jrmy: I use either the wiki pages, forum posts, ArchWiki (yeah, I know), and generally google | 04:21 |
jrmy | but if I can chat on irc while my installation is happening thinsg are going in teh right direction lol | 04:21 |
jrmy | just want things more user friendly I suppose.. but that is how most people did things and still do | 04:22 |
jrmy | too many interests to try harder then I want to | 04:23 |
josh9 | all the menu items are in japanese. what package do i need to make them appear in english? | 06:19 |
holstein | is this helpful josh9 ? http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/07/18/setting-languages/ | 06:20 |
josh9 | holstein: will take a look. thanks! | 06:28 |
josh9 | holstein: the isssue i have, i uninstalled somethnig and now i don't have Applications->System->Language Support. | 06:29 |
josh9 | so i need a package to make it available from the menu. | 06:29 |
josh9 | i think it's called 'language support' in 'software center' | 06:33 |
nanotube | howdy y'all :) | 07:09 |
nanotube | is it just me, or does the default desktop settings panel not allow you to set dual monitors side by side, rather than in mirroring mode? i had to use xrandr from cli to get it to do what i want. | 07:10 |
Unit193 | There is also arandr | 07:10 |
nanotube | ah cool, didn't know about that one. but i'm ok with the cli version. :) i made a nice script to do what i need. | 07:12 |
nanotube | mainly, just wondering if there are plans to make the desktop setting panel support it | 07:12 |
Unit193 | I'm sure you're meaning more than http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2011/12/how-to-dual-monitor-setup-on-xfce.html and with that I do not know as I don't have the ability to use dual monitors :/ | 07:15 |
nanotube | Unit193: i don't have the options described in that page (and yes, i saw that when i googled :) ) | 07:17 |
nanotube | my panel looks a lot ... barer. | 07:17 |
nanotube | i just have two displays, and for each of them i have a checkbox for 'use this output', then resolution, refresh, rotation, and reflection | 07:18 |
nanotube | no position | 07:18 |
Unit193 | Weird, I just checked and I have it :/ | 07:18 |
nanotube | Unit193: care for a screenshot? :P | 07:19 |
nanotube | (i just installed xubuntu-desktop on oneiric here, so ... this is pretty fresh stuff here, presumably) | 07:19 |
Unit193 | Heh, that's going to be a tad awkward (pic in a sec, don't laugh) | 07:20 |
nanotube | er... haha? ;) | 07:21 |
Unit193 | nanotube: http://ubuntuone.com/0zI2gz5pbNSulxgVZqJ01o | 07:21 |
_Pete_ | here's my quite fresh install also http://corei7.serveirc.com/~petria/tmp/benchmarkkia.png | 07:21 |
_Pete_ | screenshots are always nice :) | 07:21 |
nanotube | Unit193: oh... settings /editor/, that's a separate thing from settings /manager/ is it eh heh heh *blush* | 07:22 |
Unit193 | nanotube: Yep | 07:22 |
nanotube | ok then, never mind, carry on. haha sorry for the disturbance | 07:23 |
Unit193 | Don't worry, I'me sure I have/will do it someday in "your" channel too | 07:24 |
nanotube | hehe well, not sure if it'll be you, but yea, happens every day :) | 07:29 |
* nanotube finally got fed up with unity (buggy, and poor separation between workspaces), so giving xubuntu a shot. so far so good, given 30 minutes worth of experience. :) | 07:30 | |
nanotube | gave unity a fair shot over ... 2 weeks or so, some parts grew on me, others not so much. | 07:31 |
Unit193 | Did you do a !purexfce? And mind a screenshot? (Not seen a Unity > Xfce transfer, should look off :P ) | 07:31 |
nanotube | i just apt-get installed xubuntu-desktop | 07:32 |
nanotube | and sure, i'll screenshot. other than adding a few extra desktops, i haven't touched it, so it should be in default condition | 07:33 |
nanotube | http://imgur.com/QMWLb | 07:37 |
Unit193 | Oh, nice. If only I had that screen space | 07:40 |
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rhin0 | dbus-daemon sucking up all my processor on xubuntu 11.10 - dell inspiron laptop -- have posted about it to forums here (describing) ... help help help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1901691 | 08:40 |
_Pete_ | rhin0: I suggest you use dbus-monitor | 08:43 |
_Pete_ | and see what's going on there | 08:43 |
rhin0 | whats that please | 08:43 |
rhin0 | I install it? | 08:43 |
_Pete_ | I think it is installed by default | 08:43 |
_Pete_ | it's commandline tool which shows messages going in dbus | 08:43 |
rhin0 | i just typed dbus-monitor and it scrolls through a load of garbage] | 08:43 |
_Pete_ | that "garbage" is what is doing the cpu load | 08:44 |
_Pete_ | can you but some of that to pastebin.com | 08:44 |
rhin0 | is it www.pastebin.com? | 08:45 |
rhin0 | ok | 08:45 |
_Pete_ | http://pastebin.com/ | 08:45 |
rhin01 | sorry -- who was I talking to -- just shut down (system running hot) | 08:47 |
_Pete_ | me | 08:48 |
rhin01 | ok thanks _Pete_ | 08:48 |
rhin01 | right -- http://pastebin.com/ZPExjxKr | 08:48 |
rhin01 | all that scrolling fast past | 08:48 |
rhin01 | seems to say volumemonitor a lot | 08:48 |
rhin01 | do you want more of it | 08:49 |
_Pete_ | is that same stuff repeating over and over what is in pastebin ? | 08:49 |
rhin01 | yes | 08:49 |
rhin01 | its scrolling and scrolling | 08:49 |
rhin01 | another sample: http://pastebin.com/6ymuWrK4 | 08:50 |
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_Pete_ | org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor | 08:50 |
_Pete_ | dont know exactly what that is | 08:50 |
_Pete_ | but the messages seems to go there | 08:50 |
_Pete_ | I sugges google that and see | 08:50 |
rhin0 | ok - thats a start | 08:51 |
rhin0 | its a pain because i am sort of backed into a corner with xubuntu | 08:52 |
rhin0 | nothing else runs on my hardware successfully (and now I have this) | 08:52 |
rhin0 | I need this sorting | 08:53 |
TheSheep | I would guess that something is indexing your photos on a connected camera or so it thinks | 08:54 |
rhin0 | i did plug a camera in once | 08:54 |
rhin0 | to charge it | 08:54 |
rhin0 | and it sort of -- it did reference the drive | 08:54 |
rhin0 | maybe I re-install and don't do that again??? | 08:54 |
rhin0 | i mean -- have no idea how to stop this | 08:54 |
rhin0 | I always just "fresh install" | 08:54 |
rhin0 | the install I am pretty sure was not doing this initially | 08:54 |
rhin0 | why do you think it is the camera "remotevolumemonitor" | 08:55 |
rhin0 | the camera is not connected now | 08:55 |
rhin0 | ah GPhoto2VolumeMonitor | 08:55 |
TheSheep | you could just kill that procsess | 08:56 |
TheSheep | find it in the system monitor | 08:56 |
rhin0 | http://pastebin.com/EBp0RuPm <- help I just killed it but it re-appeared | 08:57 |
rhin0 | someone stop me from just going "rm /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor" | 08:58 |
TheSheep | that's ok, did it stop the dbus silliness? | 08:58 |
rhin0 | no | 08:58 |
rhin0 | because the process keeps re-appearing | 08:58 |
TheSheep | did you try googling it? | 08:59 |
rhin0 | I typed kill (that proc name) and then it | 08:59 |
rhin0 | comes back up again | 08:59 |
TheSheep | you don;t kill by name | 08:59 |
TheSheep | you kill by pid | 08:59 |
rhin0 | i killed by pid | 08:59 |
rhin0 | its in the pastebin (what I did) | 08:59 |
_Pete_ | gvfs-mount -li | 08:59 |
_Pete_ | does that show something about your camera? | 09:00 |
rhin0 | http://pastebin.com/xkUabygM no i just get this | 09:01 |
rhin0 | looking (googling) ways to stop this gvfs thing | 09:02 |
rhin0 | maybe about to try: "killall gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor .... then " chmod -x /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor" | 09:03 |
TheSheep | rhin0: it would be better to find the real reason it's misbehaving | 09:04 |
rhin0 | i'd rather just get rid | 09:04 |
rhin0 | than diagnose some stupid problem with something I don't use | 09:04 |
rhin0 | #I do not need the camera for photos I juszt use the alarm | 09:04 |
TheSheep | if you do 'dpkg -S /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor' it will tell you from which package it is | 09:04 |
TheSheep | then you can uninstall that package | 09:05 |
rhin0 | gvfs-backends | 09:06 |
rhin0 | gvfs is a userspace virtual filesystem where mount runs as a separate | 09:06 |
rhin0 | processes which you talk to via D-Bus. It also contains a gio module | 09:06 |
rhin0 | that seamlessly adds gvfs support to all applications using the gio | 09:06 |
rhin0 | will this screw things up | 09:06 |
rhin0 | somebody said on google it is part of things | 09:06 |
TheSheep | yeah :/ | 09:06 |
TheSheep | I was hoping it would be in a separate package | 09:07 |
rhin0 | i'm going to re-install then throw the camera out of the window | 09:10 |
rhin0 | this crap is only loading I think because I plugged the camera in? | 09:10 |
TheSheep | rhin0: I don't think so | 09:11 |
TheSheep | rhin0: that was a wild guess, and it's not very likely | 09:11 |
rhin0 | cpu loading started somehwere | 09:11 |
rhin0 | initial install -- all ok | 09:11 |
TheSheep | rhin0: you don't remember when? | 09:12 |
rhin0 | the g is "filing system" | 09:12 |
rhin0 | it loaded the "g" filing system to get to the camera | 09:12 |
rhin0 | gvfs | 09:12 |
TheSheep | from the dbus messages it looks like something is changing its owner all the time :/ | 09:13 |
TheSheep | you don't have any script that does 'chown' automatically or anything? | 09:13 |
rhin0 | no | 09:15 |
rhin0 | removing "gvfs" (that package) | 09:15 |
TheSheep | you could try looking what that gphoto monitor does | 09:16 |
TheSheep | with 'strace -p PID_OF_THAT_PROCESS' | 09:16 |
TheSheep | it's going to be a lot of stuff probably | 09:16 |
rhin0 | reooting brb | 09:17 |
rhin0 | i'm going to re-install and hope that it was just the camera | 09:21 |
rhin0 | the fact it started trying to do crap witha camera/filing system gv fs whatever | 09:21 |
rhin0 | because something started this -- must have been that | 09:22 |
rhin0 | some crud it's loaded | 09:22 |
rhin0 | or started loading | 09:22 |
rhin0 | bbl | 09:22 |
TheSheep | gvfs is a general-purpose virtual filesystem thing | 09:22 |
TheSheep | bah | 09:22 |
rhin0 | why does nfs work so slowly | 09:35 |
rhin0 | sometimes slow sometimes fast -- i'm getting like 10kb/s | 09:35 |
rhin0 | hang on it does speed up | 09:35 |
Sysi | I guess it's your network, or server | 09:36 |
rhin0 | i set up nfs with optimal settings -- it's just the way nfs works -- kicks in saying 20 minutes for 11mb directory -- now its down to 28 seconds | 09:36 |
rhin0 | is ok | 09:36 |
froes_ | hi guys.. how can i install libmp4v2-dev on oneiric 11.10 ??? | 10:19 |
aLeSD | yeah | 10:28 |
_Pete_ | froes_: you can't since no packet with that name exists | 10:32 |
froes_ | _Pete_, i am trying to install fuppes on oneiric, but cant seem to be able to install with mp4 support without that lib | 10:33 |
_Pete_ | what about avoiding all hassle and trying some other upnp server which doesnt need to be compiled? | 10:36 |
_Pete_ | but looks intresting tough | 10:36 |
Sysi | froes_: find out what file(s) it wants and search with "apt-file search $FILE" | 10:40 |
froes_ | _Pete_, i have tried..but couldnt find one with live transcoding and registering to the microsoft networks services | 10:41 |
_Pete_ | maybe you can build it yourself | 10:41 |
_Pete_ | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mpeg4ip/1:1.6dfsg-0.2ubuntu9 | 10:42 |
froes_ | quat is the difference mpegip vs mp4v2 ? | 10:42 |
Sysi | at least name | 10:43 |
froes_ | compiled and installed from here seems now fuppes has mp4 support | 10:46 |
froes_ | http://code.google.com/p/mp4v2/downloads/list | 10:46 |
froes_ | but it gives me simage not installed now.. but it is | 10:47 |
_Pete_ | froes_: just tried my self | 11:04 |
_Pete_ | after you build & install that google mp4v2 | 11:04 |
_Pete_ | and then configure fobbes | 11:04 |
_Pete_ | I get | 11:04 |
_Pete_ | mpeg4ip/mp4v2 : enabled (mp4/m4a) | 11:04 |
froes_ | _Pete_, but i am still getting the no mp4 on faad | 11:05 |
froes_ | strange | 11:05 |
froes_ | and simage is not being detected either | 11:06 |
_Pete_ | I get like this | 11:06 |
_Pete_ | http://pastebin.com/2DsrJ4nc | 11:06 |
_Pete_ | followed these http://fuppes.ulrich-voelkel.de/wiki/index.php?title=Compiling_on_Ubuntu_Linux | 11:07 |
_Pete_ | and did take src from svn | 11:07 |
froes_ | _Pete_, i am following those same steps and this is how i get http://pastebin.com/kdEZbkDa | 11:11 |
froes_ | _Pete_, its a brand new oneiric installation | 11:12 |
froes_ | and if you take a look.. the faad has mp4 support disabled ? :S | 11:12 |
_Pete_ | hmm right | 11:13 |
froes_ | and as if libsimage was not installed too | 11:14 |
froes_ | but it is installed | 11:14 |
froes_ | this is my proiblem i think http://pastebin.com/M2iw5t6f | 11:25 |
froes_ | but i have simage-config version 1.7.0 | 11:26 |
froes_ | used simage-config ==version | 11:26 |
_Pete_ | froes_: faad : yes (aac/mp4/m4a) | 11:29 |
_Pete_ | after installing | 11:29 |
_Pete_ | http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.musicpd.devel/1631 | 11:29 |
froes_ | _Pete_, could you check which version of simage you have installed? | 11:29 |
_Pete_ | 1.7.0-1.1 | 11:29 |
_Pete_ | froes_: did you do that Install depencies which is in compiling wiki? | 11:32 |
froes_ | _Pete_, yeap... all of them under the 10.04 | 11:33 |
froes_ | now my problem is only the simage | 11:36 |
froes_ | _Pete_, thanks for the tip on the mp4ffo | 11:36 |
_Pete_ | and you sure have libsimage-dev | 11:36 |
froes_ | libsimage-dev is already the newest version. | 11:39 |
froes_ | it seems it cant find simage-config | 11:41 |
froes_ | _Pete_, what does "simage-config --libs" gives you ? mine gives http://pastebin.com/N93dpU2Y | 11:47 |
_Pete_ | k$ simage-config --libs | 11:48 |
_Pete_ | -lsimage -logg -lvorbis -lvorbisfile -ltiff -lpng -lz -ljpeg -lgif -lungif -lm | 11:48 |
froes_ | same as mine. | 11:57 |
froes_ | it can only be the version of simage i think... mine is 1.7.0 yours id 1.7.0-1.1 | 11:58 |
_Pete_ | I am running 11.10 amd64 | 11:58 |
froes_ | me to | 11:59 |
froes_ | too | 11:59 |
froes_ | fresh new server installation | 12:00 |
_Pete_ | Filename: pool/universe/s/simage/libsimage-dev_1.7.0-1.1_amd64.deb | 12:00 |
_Pete_ | for apt-cache show | 12:00 |
froes_ | mine is the same http://pastebin.com/AKNUadfP | 12:02 |
_Pete_ | then you have same version | 12:04 |
_Pete_ | dpkg -l | grep simage | 12:04 |
_Pete_ | = 1.7.0-1.1 ? | 12:04 |
froes_ | _Pete_, yeap | 12:06 |
froes_ | did you do anything besides " autoreconf -vfi " ?? | 12:07 |
_Pete_ | then I guess the image libraries itself are not installed | 12:07 |
_Pete_ | simage is just wrapper lib which uses those | 12:07 |
froes_ | so i need to install libpng-dev libjped-dev ... ? | 12:08 |
_Pete_ | and also corresponding without -dev | 12:08 |
_Pete_ | dpkg -l | grep libpng | 12:09 |
_Pete_ | I have libpng12-0 and libpng12-dev | 12:09 |
_Pete_ | for example | 12:09 |
_Pete_ | I guess those are not installed in server version by default | 12:09 |
froes_ | those i have.. will try for every one of those | 12:13 |
xubuntu361 | Salve a tutti | 12:22 |
xubuntu361 | Novizio di xubuntu | 12:23 |
xubuntu361 | Qualcuno potrebbe aiutarmi? | 12:23 |
froes_ | _Pete_, well, i guess i`ll leave that one alone. but do you know how i can create a .deb after compiling do it can be easily uninstalled afterwards ? | 12:24 |
xubuntu361 | Hello everybody, installed right now xubuntu 11.10 but it can't recognize any wireless connection, any advice?Thanks | 12:27 |
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_Pete_ | froes_: if the source package doesnt have debian/ stuff doing those are pretty complicated | 12:37 |
_Pete_ | or maybe like this http://www.quietearth.us/articles/2006/08/16/Building-deb-package-from-source | 12:38 |
_Pete_ | froes_: looks like fuppes have thos already | 12:43 |
_Pete_ | so you can get .deb doing: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot | 12:43 |
Marzata | can you install 12.04? | 12:51 |
froes_ | ls | 12:59 |
froes_ | ls | 12:59 |
nanotube | Unit193: hehe yea, screenspace is nice. :) (and monitors are relatively cheap these days, so you can have it too for only 100 bucks or so :) ) | 14:43 |
zacarias | my audio cd's don't play. When I insert a CD, it opens Banshee, but it doesn't show on the dektop or the devices list and it doesn't play | 14:44 |
TheSheep | zacarias: audio cds won't show on the desktop, they don't have a filesystem on them | 14:46 |
TheSheep | zacarias: so that part is normal | 14:46 |
TheSheep | zacarias: I'm not sure banshee can play audio cds | 14:46 |
* nanotube would be surprised if it can't.... that said, i haven't popped a cd in a cd drive in years... | 14:47 | |
zacarias | TheSheep: but I tried with rythmbox, it's the same | 14:52 |
Marzata | vlc plays them all | 14:54 |
fivedaysahead | vlc should work | 14:56 |
fivedaysahead | how do i set a x11vnc script at login? | 14:57 |
zacarias | Marzata: yes, that's right, it works with vlc. It's really great this vlc, for everything! | 14:59 |
fivedaysahead | vlc for the win love it | 15:00 |
holstein | fivedaysahead: i just put them in 'startup' | 15:04 |
holstein | whatever scripts | 15:04 |
Gravis1 | have you guys noticed that ubuntu software center has stopped working? | 15:14 |
_DeLa_ | question: Is ubuntu tweak recommended for Xubuntu as well? | 15:14 |
_DeLa_ | Gravis1: mine seems to be still working.... | 15:14 |
Gravis1 | xubuntu 11.10 ? | 15:15 |
holstein | Gravis1: you could have another package manager running.. like the update manager | 15:15 |
Gravis1 | i dont :) | 15:15 |
Gravis1 | it just doesnt work anymore | 15:15 |
Gravis1 | standard install | 15:15 |
Gravis1 | standard packages etc | 15:15 |
Gravis1 | no tweaks | 15:15 |
holstein | _DeLa_: AFAIK, tweak is *not* recommended for any *buntu | 15:15 |
_Pete_ | what is this tweak? | 15:16 |
_DeLa_ | holstein: seems to be a lot of peoples opinion :) | 15:16 |
holstein | _DeLa_: well, its not opinion on the part of official ubuntu support | 15:17 |
holstein | i have used it, and i like the PPA purge capabilities, but AFAIK, its a ban topic | 15:17 |
Gravis1 | oh nvm the software center loads now | 15:17 |
_DeLa_ | holstein: yeah, the ppa adding features would be nice, the rest...oh well... | 15:19 |
holstein | dan64: if you are asking, will it work with xubuntu like it will with ubuntu, theres no reason it wont, but its not "supported" | 15:20 |
fivedaysahead | how do i add a login script to lightdm? so i can start x11vnc before login? | 15:20 |
holstein | but as far as tweak is concerned, *buntu is supported | 15:20 |
holstein | fivedaysahead: when i was reading about that, you had to run it as root, and i didnt like that | 15:21 |
holstein | maybe check out http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/howto-start-vncserver-before-login-177406/ | 15:22 |
fivedaysahead | thanks will take a look | 15:22 |
Gravis1 | holstein: however, what it does you can do in the terminal yourself | 15:22 |
holstein | Gravis1: it? | 15:24 |
holstein | Gravis1: ppa purge? | 15:24 |
holstein | ubuntu tweak?... keep in mind, im not the one with "the tweak query" | 15:24 |
Gravis1 | holstein: there is an program for ppa purging too | 15:24 |
Gravis1 | holstein: also i know you werent hehe | 15:25 |
holstein | theres ppa purge, that i assume tweak uses on the back end | 15:25 |
holstein | i have only used the GUI so far | 15:25 |
Gravis1 | kinda limited what i use in gui hehe | 15:25 |
holstein | http://www.webupd8.org/2010/08/ppa-purge-added-to-official-ubuntu-1010.html | 15:26 |
Gravis1 | gui is scary.. like right now.. 1 nicks in here | 15:26 |
Gravis1 | 2 nicks* | 15:26 |
Gravis1 | dunno how, connected via pidgin | 15:26 |
* holstein on irssi in screen | 15:27 | |
Gravis1 | this was just a quick connect :) | 15:28 |
fivedaysahead | in the lightdm.conf i see display-setup-script = Script to run when starting a greeter session (runs as root) | 15:28 |
Gravis1 | i use irssi for irc too | 15:28 |
fivedaysahead | should i make that an .sh script or do you think i can just type any old command there? | 15:28 |
holstein | fivedaysahead: i would make sure i know how to edit that from a live CD assuming it breaks something and wont boot, then i would probably tinker.. but im a tinkerer | 15:31 |
fivedaysahead | thakns | 15:32 |
kj4 | hello all | 17:57 |
fivedaysahead | hello | 18:07 |
Marzata | hello | 19:32 |
jrmy | so | 19:47 |
jrmy | whoops | 19:47 |
jrmy | so I was wondering if anyone knows of a channel on freenode that would possibly help set my computer hardware properly.. because it's been freezing | 19:48 |
jrmy | unless I should just google everything.. but it's gotta be something to be with something not being set right.. everything else seems to check otu ok | 19:48 |
_Pete_ | it's possibly #magiccrhystalballowners | 19:49 |
Unit193 | Well, there is ##hardware, but I've never been to that. You can search freenode channels /msg alis help list | 19:49 |
lighta | hi guys | 20:13 |
lighta | I have some issue with the route table. Since I connected to a server via vpn those route keep poping up even if I don't connect | 20:14 |
go8765 | hello.can anybody help me with seamonky? when I run chatzilla it fall down | 20:57 |
Marzata | why dont you use just firefox | 21:00 |
Marzata | and chat with Xchat | 21:00 |
go8765 | Marzata, I use it e-mail clent :) | 21:01 |
go8765 | ершы шы дщп - http://paste.ubuntu.com/787226/ | 21:02 |
go8765 | *this is log | 21:02 |
Marzata | cant you use just Thunderbird, блин? | 21:03 |
go8765 | Marzata, dont remember why, but I like seamonky klient more, тыщь | 21:04 |
Marzata | SeaMonkey uses old code and tends to cracks | 21:05 |
go8765 | Ooo... I use old version :) I try to upgrade it at first :) | 21:20 |
xubuntu783 | alguien sabe si es posible activar compiz en xubuntu? | 22:01 |
Unit193 | !es | xubuntu783 | 22:02 |
ubottu | xubuntu783: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #xubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #xubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. Si nadie responde allí puedes intentar preguntando en #ubuntu-es. | 22:02 |
Unit193 | IIRC, you can get Compiz to work though | 22:02 |
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=== Nex4 is now known as Nax | ||
nanotube | yea i understand all that's needed is to install the compiz packages, then run compiz --replace. haven't tried it myself yet, even though i already have all the compiz stuff, coming from regular ubuntu. :) | 22:21 |
w30 | the only problem with Xfce4 is that compiz does not have a window decorator to call up. You need gtk-window-decorator emerald or gnome-window decorator | 22:30 |
nanotube | there's also compiz-decorator | 22:30 |
nanotube | comes by default | 22:31 |
holstein | nanotube: didnt work by default | 22:31 |
holstein | w30 and i have made xubuntu use compiz | 22:31 |
holstein | you'll need to do some work for the window decorations | 22:32 |
w30 | /usr/bin/gtk-window-decorator --metacity-theme CopperDeck --replace in the window decorator section will work. CopperDeck being replaced with a gtk theme that contains a window border | 22:32 |
nanotube | hm well... thanks for the heads-up, then. :) maybe i'll give it a try after i eat. though i'm really not that hung up on the fancy effects. most of them are pretty useless. | 22:32 |
w30 | lots of gtk themes don't have their own borders though | 22:33 |
w30 | nanotube, how do you feed different window borders into compiz-decorator? | 22:34 |
nanotube | no idea, i haven't tried it. was just noting that that's the default for compiz on oneiric, and it works when running gnome+unity. | 22:35 |
nanotube | i just installed xubuntu-desktop last night | 22:35 |
nanotube | because after giving unity a fair shake for a couple weeks, i gave up on it | 22:35 |
nanotube | so... i haven't played much with it yet | 22:36 |
w30 | nanotube, I always get can't find Alwanda theme or something like that. | 22:36 |
nanotube | been afk most of the day today too. | 22:36 |
nanotube | i'll let you know what happens when i run compiz --replace without doing anything else | 22:36 |
w30 | google found several sites with emerald deb's that work but there is no Ubuntu repo emerald | 22:37 |
* w30 happy with emerald now *smile* | 22:38 | |
klemmerj | New to Xubuntu - Quick Q on Xubuntu desktop icons: The default seems to be to have everything in $HOME on the desktop. How does one change this so that only the default icons and items in the $HOME/Desktop dir are visible? | 22:44 |
Marzata | huh? | 22:56 |
w30 | klemmerj hmmm........I have installed xubuntu proly 7 or 8 times and always got Dsktop as my Desktop. | 23:11 |
w30 | Desktop as Desktop | 23:11 |
* w30 only know that he hates gnome3 and unity. Right now, dual booting xubuntu and kubuntu. | 23:38 | |
Marzata | w30: why kubuntu? | 23:39 |
koleoptero_ | w30 me too | 23:40 |
koleoptero_ | lol | 23:40 |
* w30 leaning towards xubuntu. It seems KDE is awfully structured into their way and is probably resource heavy. I do have a big block v8 though. | 23:41 | |
macman__ | kubuntu barely runs in virtualbox | 23:42 |
w30 | I hate most the application menu's that take up two desktops to display 5 apps | 23:42 |
koleoptero_ | you can make it like a classic menu | 23:42 |
macman__ | it is also known to use more power than any other window manager | 23:43 |
koleoptero_ | disable blur and it uses less lol | 23:43 |
macman__ | good advice :-) | 23:43 |
w30 | macman__, no problem; I can throw a couple of cpu's at it . | 23:44 |
macman__ | i admit, kde 4 does look pretty cool, but seems to throw up alot of crashes on my dads system | 23:45 |
Unit193 | Mind taking this to #xubuntu-offtopic ? | 23:45 |
Marzata | still can't install Xubu 12.04 in VB? | 23:46 |
w30 | macman__, now doubt all that Plasma fancy graphics costs. | 23:46 |
w30 | Unit193, sure; sorry it's really busy in here :=) | 23:48 |
macman__ | i have never used xubuntu but came here after recommendaton by linus :-) | 23:48 |
macman__ | i downloaded an early beta of 11.10 but it didn't install in virtualbox | 23:51 |
Marzata | 11.10 installs anyway. | 23:54 |
macman__ | cool, i'll dl it then :-) thanks | 23:54 |
Marzata | we have xubu 11.10 running on all our production machines. everybody loves it. | 23:56 |
projekt26 | I wanted to donate a few dollars to the xubuntu projekt but I couldn't find a donation option on neither the xubuntu nor the xfce site | 23:56 |
projekt26 | am I not looking hard enough? | 23:56 |
projekt26 | or is it because donations should go directly to ubuntu? | 23:57 |
Marzata | no need to tweak anything like the latest versions of ubuntu. install the OS few cosmetics, and then just install sw. | 23:57 |
macman__ | what is the deafault chat client? | 23:57 |
Marzata | projekt26: xubuntu team dont receive financials from canonical. | 23:58 |
Marzata | macman__: Xchat IRC, but of coz you can install irssi | 23:58 |
macman__ | i use quassel, is that better? | 23:58 |
projekt26 | so why is there no option to donate? I could understand they don't want donations because most of the work is done by other people. but unfortunately there is no such option for xfce either it seems | 23:59 |
Marzata | macman__: dunno. I think irssi is the best. | 23:59 |
w30 | best to install Synaptic and then go hog wild and install whatever trips your trigger. | 23:59 |
macman__ | ok, thanks. does it support roll back? | 23:59 |
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