=== Exio is now known as Nax [04:14] I'm thinking I'm really gonna like 11.10 [04:14] the cd installation is much more friendly and vivid [04:14] almost reminds me of windows xp [04:16] so I hope one day xubuntu can get community pages as advanced and knowledgable as the ubuntu community pages (help pages) [04:18] They are mostly compatible [04:19] but when it comes to advanced thinsg they aren't [04:19] at least as far as anything else I've tried to learn [04:20] I do want to become a better linux user... I just seem to hit a wall though [04:20] and I liek xfce too much to use ubuntu [04:21] but it has been 3 months since I've checked anythign out [04:21] jrmy: I use either the wiki pages, forum posts, ArchWiki (yeah, I know), and generally google [04:21] but if I can chat on irc while my installation is happening thinsg are going in teh right direction lol [04:22] just want things more user friendly I suppose.. but that is how most people did things and still do [04:23] too many interests to try harder then I want to [06:19] all the menu items are in japanese. what package do i need to make them appear in english? [06:20] is this helpful josh9 ? http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/07/18/setting-languages/ [06:28] holstein: will take a look. thanks! [06:29] holstein: the isssue i have, i uninstalled somethnig and now i don't have Applications->System->Language Support. [06:29] so i need a package to make it available from the menu. [06:33] i think it's called 'language support' in 'software center' [07:09] howdy y'all :) [07:10] is it just me, or does the default desktop settings panel not allow you to set dual monitors side by side, rather than in mirroring mode? i had to use xrandr from cli to get it to do what i want. [07:10] There is also arandr [07:12] ah cool, didn't know about that one. but i'm ok with the cli version. :) i made a nice script to do what i need. [07:12] mainly, just wondering if there are plans to make the desktop setting panel support it [07:15] I'm sure you're meaning more than http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2011/12/how-to-dual-monitor-setup-on-xfce.html and with that I do not know as I don't have the ability to use dual monitors :/ [07:17] Unit193: i don't have the options described in that page (and yes, i saw that when i googled :) ) [07:17] my panel looks a lot ... barer. [07:18] i just have two displays, and for each of them i have a checkbox for 'use this output', then resolution, refresh, rotation, and reflection [07:18] no position [07:18] Weird, I just checked and I have it :/ [07:19] Unit193: care for a screenshot? :P [07:19] (i just installed xubuntu-desktop on oneiric here, so ... this is pretty fresh stuff here, presumably) [07:20] Heh, that's going to be a tad awkward (pic in a sec, don't laugh) [07:21] er... haha? ;) [07:21] nanotube: http://ubuntuone.com/0zI2gz5pbNSulxgVZqJ01o [07:21] <_Pete_> here's my quite fresh install also http://corei7.serveirc.com/~petria/tmp/benchmarkkia.png [07:21] <_Pete_> screenshots are always nice :) [07:22] Unit193: oh... settings /editor/, that's a separate thing from settings /manager/ is it eh heh heh *blush* [07:22] nanotube: Yep [07:23] ok then, never mind, carry on. haha sorry for the disturbance [07:24] Don't worry, I'me sure I have/will do it someday in "your" channel too [07:29] hehe well, not sure if it'll be you, but yea, happens every day :) [07:30] * nanotube finally got fed up with unity (buggy, and poor separation between workspaces), so giving xubuntu a shot. so far so good, given 30 minutes worth of experience. :) [07:31] gave unity a fair shot over ... 2 weeks or so, some parts grew on me, others not so much. [07:31] Did you do a !purexfce? And mind a screenshot? (Not seen a Unity > Xfce transfer, should look off :P ) [07:32] i just apt-get installed xubuntu-desktop [07:33] and sure, i'll screenshot. other than adding a few extra desktops, i haven't touched it, so it should be in default condition [07:37] http://imgur.com/QMWLb [07:40] Oh, nice. If only I had that screen space === Nax is now known as Exio4|Away [08:40] dbus-daemon sucking up all my processor on xubuntu 11.10 - dell inspiron laptop -- have posted about it to forums here (describing) ... help help help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1901691 [08:43] <_Pete_> rhin0: I suggest you use dbus-monitor [08:43] <_Pete_> and see what's going on there [08:43] whats that please [08:43] I install it? [08:43] <_Pete_> I think it is installed by default [08:43] <_Pete_> it's commandline tool which shows messages going in dbus [08:43] i just typed dbus-monitor and it scrolls through a load of garbage] [08:44] <_Pete_> that "garbage" is what is doing the cpu load [08:44] <_Pete_> can you but some of that to pastebin.com [08:45] is it www.pastebin.com? [08:45] ok [08:45] <_Pete_> http://pastebin.com/ [08:47] sorry -- who was I talking to -- just shut down (system running hot) [08:48] <_Pete_> me [08:48] ok thanks _Pete_ [08:48] right -- http://pastebin.com/ZPExjxKr [08:48] all that scrolling fast past [08:48] seems to say volumemonitor a lot [08:49] do you want more of it [08:49] <_Pete_> is that same stuff repeating over and over what is in pastebin ? [08:49] yes [08:49] its scrolling and scrolling [08:50] another sample: http://pastebin.com/6ymuWrK4 === rhin01 is now known as rhin0 [08:50] <_Pete_> org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor [08:50] <_Pete_> dont know exactly what that is [08:50] <_Pete_> but the messages seems to go there [08:50] <_Pete_> I sugges google that and see [08:51] ok - thats a start [08:52] its a pain because i am sort of backed into a corner with xubuntu [08:52] nothing else runs on my hardware successfully (and now I have this) [08:53] I need this sorting [08:54] I would guess that something is indexing your photos on a connected camera or so it thinks [08:54] i did plug a camera in once [08:54] to charge it [08:54] and it sort of -- it did reference the drive [08:54] maybe I re-install and don't do that again??? [08:54] i mean -- have no idea how to stop this [08:54] I always just "fresh install" [08:54] the install I am pretty sure was not doing this initially [08:55] why do you think it is the camera "remotevolumemonitor" [08:55] the camera is not connected now [08:55] ah GPhoto2VolumeMonitor [08:56] you could just kill that procsess [08:56] find it in the system monitor [08:57] http://pastebin.com/EBp0RuPm <- help I just killed it but it re-appeared [08:58] someone stop me from just going "rm /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor" [08:58] that's ok, did it stop the dbus silliness? [08:58] no [08:58] because the process keeps re-appearing [08:59] did you try googling it? [08:59] I typed kill (that proc name) and then it [08:59] comes back up again [08:59] you don;t kill by name [08:59] you kill by pid [08:59] i killed by pid [08:59] its in the pastebin (what I did) [08:59] <_Pete_> gvfs-mount -li [09:00] <_Pete_> does that show something about your camera? [09:01] http://pastebin.com/xkUabygM no i just get this [09:02] looking (googling) ways to stop this gvfs thing [09:03] maybe about to try: "killall gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor .... then " chmod -x /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor" [09:04] rhin0: it would be better to find the real reason it's misbehaving [09:04] i'd rather just get rid [09:04] than diagnose some stupid problem with something I don't use [09:04] #I do not need the camera for photos I juszt use the alarm [09:04] if you do 'dpkg -S /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor' it will tell you from which package it is [09:05] then you can uninstall that package [09:06] gvfs-backends [09:06] gvfs is a userspace virtual filesystem where mount runs as a separate [09:06] processes which you talk to via D-Bus. It also contains a gio module [09:06] that seamlessly adds gvfs support to all applications using the gio [09:06] will this screw things up [09:06] somebody said on google it is part of things [09:06] yeah :/ [09:07] I was hoping it would be in a separate package [09:10] i'm going to re-install then throw the camera out of the window [09:10] this crap is only loading I think because I plugged the camera in? [09:11] rhin0: I don't think so [09:11] rhin0: that was a wild guess, and it's not very likely [09:11] cpu loading started somehwere [09:11] initial install -- all ok [09:12] rhin0: you don't remember when? [09:12] the g is "filing system" [09:12] it loaded the "g" filing system to get to the camera [09:12] gvfs [09:13] from the dbus messages it looks like something is changing its owner all the time :/ [09:13] you don't have any script that does 'chown' automatically or anything? [09:15] no [09:15] removing "gvfs" (that package) [09:16] you could try looking what that gphoto monitor does [09:16] with 'strace -p PID_OF_THAT_PROCESS' [09:16] it's going to be a lot of stuff probably [09:17] reooting brb [09:21] i'm going to re-install and hope that it was just the camera [09:21] the fact it started trying to do crap witha camera/filing system gv fs whatever [09:22] because something started this -- must have been that [09:22] some crud it's loaded [09:22] or started loading [09:22] bbl [09:22] gvfs is a general-purpose virtual filesystem thing [09:22] bah [09:35] why does nfs work so slowly [09:35] sometimes slow sometimes fast -- i'm getting like 10kb/s [09:35] hang on it does speed up [09:36] I guess it's your network, or server [09:36] i set up nfs with optimal settings -- it's just the way nfs works -- kicks in saying 20 minutes for 11mb directory -- now its down to 28 seconds [09:36] is ok [10:19] hi guys.. how can i install libmp4v2-dev on oneiric 11.10 ??? [10:28] yeah [10:32] <_Pete_> froes_: you can't since no packet with that name exists [10:33] _Pete_, i am trying to install fuppes on oneiric, but cant seem to be able to install with mp4 support without that lib [10:36] <_Pete_> what about avoiding all hassle and trying some other upnp server which doesnt need to be compiled? [10:36] <_Pete_> but looks intresting tough [10:40] froes_: find out what file(s) it wants and search with "apt-file search $FILE" [10:41] _Pete_, i have tried..but couldnt find one with live transcoding and registering to the microsoft networks services [10:41] <_Pete_> maybe you can build it yourself [10:42] <_Pete_> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mpeg4ip/1:1.6dfsg-0.2ubuntu9 [10:42] quat is the difference mpegip vs mp4v2 ? [10:43] at least name [10:46] compiled and installed from here seems now fuppes has mp4 support [10:46] http://code.google.com/p/mp4v2/downloads/list [10:47] but it gives me simage not installed now.. but it is [11:04] <_Pete_> froes_: just tried my self [11:04] <_Pete_> after you build & install that google mp4v2 [11:04] <_Pete_> and then configure fobbes [11:04] <_Pete_> I get [11:04] <_Pete_> mpeg4ip/mp4v2 : enabled (mp4/m4a) [11:05] _Pete_, but i am still getting the no mp4 on faad [11:05] strange [11:06] and simage is not being detected either [11:06] <_Pete_> I get like this [11:06] <_Pete_> http://pastebin.com/2DsrJ4nc [11:07] <_Pete_> followed these http://fuppes.ulrich-voelkel.de/wiki/index.php?title=Compiling_on_Ubuntu_Linux [11:07] <_Pete_> and did take src from svn [11:11] _Pete_, i am following those same steps and this is how i get http://pastebin.com/kdEZbkDa [11:12] _Pete_, its a brand new oneiric installation [11:12] and if you take a look.. the faad has mp4 support disabled ? :S [11:13] <_Pete_> hmm right [11:14] and as if libsimage was not installed too [11:14] but it is installed [11:25] this is my proiblem i think http://pastebin.com/M2iw5t6f [11:26] but i have simage-config version 1.7.0 [11:26] used simage-config ==version [11:29] <_Pete_> froes_: faad : yes (aac/mp4/m4a) [11:29] <_Pete_> after installing [11:29] <_Pete_> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.musicpd.devel/1631 [11:29] _Pete_, could you check which version of simage you have installed? [11:29] <_Pete_> 1.7.0-1.1 [11:32] <_Pete_> froes_: did you do that Install depencies which is in compiling wiki? [11:33] _Pete_, yeap... all of them under the 10.04 [11:36] now my problem is only the simage [11:36] _Pete_, thanks for the tip on the mp4ffo [11:36] <_Pete_> and you sure have libsimage-dev [11:39] libsimage-dev is already the newest version. [11:41] it seems it cant find simage-config [11:47] _Pete_, what does "simage-config --libs" gives you ? mine gives http://pastebin.com/N93dpU2Y [11:48] <_Pete_> k$ simage-config --libs [11:48] <_Pete_> -lsimage -logg -lvorbis -lvorbisfile -ltiff -lpng -lz -ljpeg -lgif -lungif -lm [11:57] same as mine. [11:58] it can only be the version of simage i think... mine is 1.7.0 yours id 1.7.0-1.1 [11:58] <_Pete_> I am running 11.10 amd64 [11:59] me to [11:59] too [12:00] fresh new server installation [12:00] <_Pete_> Filename: pool/universe/s/simage/libsimage-dev_1.7.0-1.1_amd64.deb [12:00] <_Pete_> for apt-cache show [12:02] mine is the same http://pastebin.com/AKNUadfP [12:04] <_Pete_> then you have same version [12:04] <_Pete_> dpkg -l | grep simage [12:04] <_Pete_> = 1.7.0-1.1 ? [12:06] _Pete_, yeap [12:07] did you do anything besides " autoreconf -vfi " ?? [12:07] <_Pete_> then I guess the image libraries itself are not installed [12:07] <_Pete_> simage is just wrapper lib which uses those [12:08] so i need to install libpng-dev libjped-dev ... ? [12:08] <_Pete_> and also corresponding without -dev [12:09] <_Pete_> dpkg -l | grep libpng [12:09] <_Pete_> I have libpng12-0 and libpng12-dev [12:09] <_Pete_> for example [12:09] <_Pete_> I guess those are not installed in server version by default [12:13] those i have.. will try for every one of those [12:22] Salve a tutti [12:23] Novizio di xubuntu [12:23] Qualcuno potrebbe aiutarmi? [12:24] _Pete_, well, i guess i`ll leave that one alone. but do you know how i can create a .deb after compiling do it can be easily uninstalled afterwards ? [12:27] Hello everybody, installed right now xubuntu 11.10 but it can't recognize any wireless connection, any advice?Thanks === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [12:37] <_Pete_> froes_: if the source package doesnt have debian/ stuff doing those are pretty complicated [12:38] <_Pete_> or maybe like this http://www.quietearth.us/articles/2006/08/16/Building-deb-package-from-source [12:43] <_Pete_> froes_: looks like fuppes have thos already [12:43] <_Pete_> so you can get .deb doing: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot [12:51] can you install 12.04? [12:59] ls [12:59] ls [14:43] Unit193: hehe yea, screenspace is nice. :) (and monitors are relatively cheap these days, so you can have it too for only 100 bucks or so :) ) [14:44] my audio cd's don't play. When I insert a CD, it opens Banshee, but it doesn't show on the dektop or the devices list and it doesn't play [14:46] zacarias: audio cds won't show on the desktop, they don't have a filesystem on them [14:46] zacarias: so that part is normal [14:46] zacarias: I'm not sure banshee can play audio cds [14:47] * nanotube would be surprised if it can't.... that said, i haven't popped a cd in a cd drive in years... [14:52] TheSheep: but I tried with rythmbox, it's the same [14:54] vlc plays them all [14:56] vlc should work [14:57] how do i set a x11vnc script at login? [14:59] Marzata: yes, that's right, it works with vlc. It's really great this vlc, for everything! [15:00] vlc for the win love it [15:04] fivedaysahead: i just put them in 'startup' [15:04] whatever scripts [15:14] have you guys noticed that ubuntu software center has stopped working? [15:14] <_DeLa_> question: Is ubuntu tweak recommended for Xubuntu as well? [15:14] <_DeLa_> Gravis1: mine seems to be still working.... [15:15] xubuntu 11.10 ? [15:15] Gravis1: you could have another package manager running.. like the update manager [15:15] i dont :) [15:15] it just doesnt work anymore [15:15] standard install [15:15] standard packages etc [15:15] no tweaks [15:15] _DeLa_: AFAIK, tweak is *not* recommended for any *buntu [15:16] <_Pete_> what is this tweak? [15:16] <_DeLa_> holstein: seems to be a lot of peoples opinion :) [15:17] _DeLa_: well, its not opinion on the part of official ubuntu support [15:17] i have used it, and i like the PPA purge capabilities, but AFAIK, its a ban topic [15:17] oh nvm the software center loads now [15:19] <_DeLa_> holstein: yeah, the ppa adding features would be nice, the rest...oh well... [15:20] dan64: if you are asking, will it work with xubuntu like it will with ubuntu, theres no reason it wont, but its not "supported" [15:20] how do i add a login script to lightdm? so i can start x11vnc before login? [15:20] but as far as tweak is concerned, *buntu is supported [15:21] fivedaysahead: when i was reading about that, you had to run it as root, and i didnt like that [15:22] maybe check out http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/howto-start-vncserver-before-login-177406/ [15:22] thanks will take a look [15:22] holstein: however, what it does you can do in the terminal yourself [15:24] Gravis1: it? [15:24] Gravis1: ppa purge? [15:24] ubuntu tweak?... keep in mind, im not the one with "the tweak query" [15:24] holstein: there is an program for ppa purging too [15:25] holstein: also i know you werent hehe [15:25] theres ppa purge, that i assume tweak uses on the back end [15:25] i have only used the GUI so far [15:25] kinda limited what i use in gui hehe [15:26] http://www.webupd8.org/2010/08/ppa-purge-added-to-official-ubuntu-1010.html [15:26] gui is scary.. like right now.. 1 nicks in here [15:26] 2 nicks* [15:26] dunno how, connected via pidgin [15:27] * holstein on irssi in screen [15:28] this was just a quick connect :) [15:28] in the lightdm.conf i see display-setup-script = Script to run when starting a greeter session (runs as root) [15:28] i use irssi for irc too [15:28] should i make that an .sh script or do you think i can just type any old command there? [15:31] fivedaysahead: i would make sure i know how to edit that from a live CD assuming it breaks something and wont boot, then i would probably tinker.. but im a tinkerer [15:32] thakns [17:57] hello all [18:07] hello [19:32] hello [19:47] so [19:47] whoops [19:48] so I was wondering if anyone knows of a channel on freenode that would possibly help set my computer hardware properly.. because it's been freezing [19:48] unless I should just google everything.. but it's gotta be something to be with something not being set right.. everything else seems to check otu ok [19:49] <_Pete_> it's possibly #magiccrhystalballowners [19:49] Well, there is ##hardware, but I've never been to that. You can search freenode channels /msg alis help list [20:13] hi guys [20:14] I have some issue with the route table. Since I connected to a server via vpn those route keep poping up even if I don't connect [20:57] hello.can anybody help me with seamonky? when I run chatzilla it fall down [21:00] why dont you use just firefox [21:00] and chat with Xchat [21:01] Marzata, I use it e-mail clent :) [21:02] ершы шы дщп - http://paste.ubuntu.com/787226/ [21:02] *this is log [21:03] cant you use just Thunderbird, блин? [21:04] Marzata, dont remember why, but I like seamonky klient more, тыщь [21:05] SeaMonkey uses old code and tends to cracks [21:20] Ooo... I use old version :) I try to upgrade it at first :) [22:01] alguien sabe si es posible activar compiz en xubuntu? [22:02] !es | xubuntu783 [22:02] xubuntu783: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #xubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #xubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. Si nadie responde allí puedes intentar preguntando en #ubuntu-es. [22:02] IIRC, you can get Compiz to work though === Nax is now known as Nex4 === Nex4 is now known as Nax [22:21] yea i understand all that's needed is to install the compiz packages, then run compiz --replace. haven't tried it myself yet, even though i already have all the compiz stuff, coming from regular ubuntu. :) [22:30] the only problem with Xfce4 is that compiz does not have a window decorator to call up. You need gtk-window-decorator emerald or gnome-window decorator [22:30] there's also compiz-decorator [22:31] comes by default [22:31] nanotube: didnt work by default [22:31] w30 and i have made xubuntu use compiz [22:32] you'll need to do some work for the window decorations [22:32] /usr/bin/gtk-window-decorator --metacity-theme CopperDeck --replace in the window decorator section will work. CopperDeck being replaced with a gtk theme that contains a window border [22:32] hm well... thanks for the heads-up, then. :) maybe i'll give it a try after i eat. though i'm really not that hung up on the fancy effects. most of them are pretty useless. [22:33] lots of gtk themes don't have their own borders though [22:34] nanotube, how do you feed different window borders into compiz-decorator? [22:35] no idea, i haven't tried it. was just noting that that's the default for compiz on oneiric, and it works when running gnome+unity. [22:35] i just installed xubuntu-desktop last night [22:35] because after giving unity a fair shake for a couple weeks, i gave up on it [22:36] so... i haven't played much with it yet [22:36] nanotube, I always get can't find Alwanda theme or something like that. [22:36] been afk most of the day today too. [22:36] i'll let you know what happens when i run compiz --replace without doing anything else [22:37] google found several sites with emerald deb's that work but there is no Ubuntu repo emerald [22:38] * w30 happy with emerald now *smile* [22:44] New to Xubuntu - Quick Q on Xubuntu desktop icons: The default seems to be to have everything in $HOME on the desktop. How does one change this so that only the default icons and items in the $HOME/Desktop dir are visible? [22:56] huh? [23:11] klemmerj hmmm........I have installed xubuntu proly 7 or 8 times and always got Dsktop as my Desktop. [23:11] Desktop as Desktop [23:38] * w30 only know that he hates gnome3 and unity. Right now, dual booting xubuntu and kubuntu. [23:39] w30: why kubuntu? [23:40] w30 me too [23:40] lol [23:41] * w30 leaning towards xubuntu. It seems KDE is awfully structured into their way and is probably resource heavy. I do have a big block v8 though. [23:42] kubuntu barely runs in virtualbox [23:42] I hate most the application menu's that take up two desktops to display 5 apps [23:42] you can make it like a classic menu [23:43] it is also known to use more power than any other window manager [23:43] disable blur and it uses less lol [23:43] good advice :-) [23:44] macman__, no problem; I can throw a couple of cpu's at it . [23:45] i admit, kde 4 does look pretty cool, but seems to throw up alot of crashes on my dads system [23:45] Mind taking this to #xubuntu-offtopic ? [23:46] still can't install Xubu 12.04 in VB? [23:46] macman__, now doubt all that Plasma fancy graphics costs. [23:48] Unit193, sure; sorry it's really busy in here :=) [23:48] i have never used xubuntu but came here after recommendaton by linus :-) [23:51] i downloaded an early beta of 11.10 but it didn't install in virtualbox [23:54] 11.10 installs anyway. [23:54] cool, i'll dl it then :-) thanks [23:56] we have xubu 11.10 running on all our production machines. everybody loves it. [23:56] I wanted to donate a few dollars to the xubuntu projekt but I couldn't find a donation option on neither the xubuntu nor the xfce site [23:56] am I not looking hard enough? [23:57] or is it because donations should go directly to ubuntu? [23:57] no need to tweak anything like the latest versions of ubuntu. install the OS few cosmetics, and then just install sw. [23:57] what is the deafault chat client? [23:58] projekt26: xubuntu team dont receive financials from canonical. [23:58] macman__: Xchat IRC, but of coz you can install irssi [23:58] i use quassel, is that better? [23:59] so why is there no option to donate? I could understand they don't want donations because most of the work is done by other people. but unfortunately there is no such option for xfce either it seems [23:59] macman__: dunno. I think irssi is the best. [23:59] best to install Synaptic and then go hog wild and install whatever trips your trigger. [23:59] ok, thanks. does it support roll back?