[00:00] <apachelogger> valorie: beware, it will rock your world
[00:00] <apachelogger> particularly the tennant era makes me think of dw music when running to catch a bus or tram ^^
[00:01] <valorie> my world gets rocked all the time
[00:01] <valorie> I just have to choose the right time to dive in
[00:02] <BarkingFish> david tennant and christopher ecclestone were two of the best dr who's I've watched, and I've seen quite a few. The new one, Matt Smith, is too young and too silly.  He looks like he should be hosting some weird kid's game show.
[00:02]  * apachelogger likes matt because of his sillyness
[00:03] <BarkingFish> Yeah, but there should be some sense of seriousness around him.  He couldn't be serious if he tried.  He may as well dress up in a jester suit and sing the Spam song while sitting in a bath of custard.
[00:03] <apachelogger> tennant's character grew overly\ serious in retrospect
[00:03] <BarkingFish> He couldn't be much sillier
[00:04] <apachelogger> true, still not a bad thing IMHO
[00:05] <BarkingFish> The best of the Doctors, I have to say imo, was Christopher Ecclestone.  Tennant was very good, but Ecclestone took it for me.  The trenchcoat, the feeling you never quite knew what was coming next... 
[00:06] <BarkingFish> he had the right balance between silly and serious, and didn't take either too far
[00:08] <BarkingFish> some of the past ones never quite seemed to fit... Sylvester McCoy, Peter Davison, Colin Baker and Paul McGann just didn't slide in. It was like hammering the wrong piece into a jigsaw to make it fit. 
[00:09] <Riddell> Sylvester McCoy was great, although mostly because I fancied Ace
[00:09]  * apachelogger thought baker was rather good
[00:10] <apachelogger> though really I suppose I judge more by the writing than the actual acting
[00:10] <BarkingFish> There are some who I think just slipped into the role without much need to change anything. Tom Baker was brilliant.
[00:10] <BarkingFish> He's actually the first doctor I remember watching
[00:12] <Riddell> I think maco has a t-shirt for that
[00:16] <valorie> i hope netflix has them all
[00:16] <valorie> I like to begin at the beginning
[00:18] <Riddell> nobody has them all, it's a sorry tale of bad archiving in the 60s
[00:20] <valorie> !
[00:20] <valorie> shame on the Beeb!
[00:21] <Riddell> film was expensive then, they had few copies which they sent oversees often never to be seen again, shame on oversees broadcasters!
[00:21] <Riddell> besides the early ones were trying to be educational, they got over that before long
[00:22] <valorie> can't cry too much over spilled milk
[02:20] <apachelogger> Riddell: the worst is the reverse coloring they did on some of the earlier episodes 
[02:21] <apachelogger> saw that at a friend's once
[02:21] <apachelogger> made me go bonkers
[04:21] <ybit3> i want to step through marble's execution so i can figure out which default map is loaded...how might i do this?
[14:39] <Riddell> I'm getting kmix at 100%CPU now too
[16:16]  * debfx starts merging qt 4.8
[16:18] <Riddell> awesome thanks debfx 
[16:18] <Riddell> I'm fixing attica on arm then there's a transition for that I should do
[21:45] <ScottK> New cmake is out.
[21:57] <Riddell> does that make it dmake? :)
[21:58] <Riddell> ScottK: libattica0.3 in New if you want to look
[23:34] <ScottK> Riddell: Accepted.
[23:40] <Riddell>  yay
[23:54] <who_me> hm can't install kdepim-dbg, says it depends on kdepimlibs-dbg which is held because of dependency problems :/
[23:56] <ScottK> what happens if you try to install that directly?
[23:58] <who_me> I'm using apt-get install <etc>, is there a more direct way ?
[23:58] <yofel> he meant, what happens on apt-get install kdepimlibs-dbg
[23:59] <who_me> ah, this: http://pastebin.com/Z3Fiw0MT
[23:59] <yofel> that looks like a mix of 4.7.4 and 4.7.95, can you run dist-upgrade first?