[00:03] <c_> anyone know of a new drm-based encoding that's out there for audio cds?
[00:03] <Resistance> i dont think this'd be the channel to ask that c_
[00:04] <c_> it's really burning my a$$$...
[00:05] <c_> Resistance: the only reason I ask here is that my son bought me a new cd for xmas, it worked fine on his windows 7 laptop, it will NOT work on my established, trustworthy hardy-based computer, but does work on this new install
[00:05] <c_> not even vlc will play it on the older machine, which has every bloody codec int he world installed
[00:06] <c_> that means it's linked to something unknown and available in lynx, but not hardy heron?
[00:07] <c_> Resistance: do you know another channel where I might be able to tease out the answer to my drm-based question
[00:08] <c_> I'm not trying to circumvent or break anything, after all; it's a valid, commercially-bought audio cd I want to enjoy, that's all
[00:09] <Resistance> c_:  you might need the restricted extras
[00:09] <Resistance> !restricted | c_
[00:10] <c_> Resistance: that's already installed on my hardy server, where the audio cd won't play
[00:10] <c_> here kubuntu-restricted-extras isn't installed yet, but here it plays...go figure
[00:13] <c_> the audio cd even has all the tracks in ogg-vorbis format, they won't play on the hardy computer even though I can rip in that format
[00:14] <c_> because all ogg-borbis codecs are installed there
[00:14] <c_> and here I was pleased that anti records was taking a "no to drm" stance...grrrr
[00:15] <c_> anyway...gonna purge NM here and try to restart with the wicd-based static ip
[00:16] <c_> thx guys...I'll be back if wicd doesn't work and I have to reinstall the other NM
[01:13] <BarkingFish> That was really weird. I just had for the first time ever, to do a sysrq sequence to get my system to reboot.  I opened the new version of firefox, 9.0.1, and it killed my system - nothing would move or click, mouse froze, and the machine sounded like it was trying to shred a car.
[01:14] <BarkingFish> I've never had to use REISUB at all.  I don't know what firefox did, but I sure as hell don't like it,
[01:16] <Kimlaroux> what's this sysrp sequence thing?
[01:17] <Kimlaroux> In those cases I usually hold the power button to hard reboot my computer >.>
[01:17] <BarkingFish> yeah, if I hold down the power button, it powers the machine off without stopping anything
[01:18] <BarkingFish> REISUB is an acronym - Reboot Even If System Utterly Broken :)
[01:19] <Kimlaroux> but if it's broken, how to you use it?
[01:19] <DarthFrog> Kimlaroux: It also means "re-install".  :-)
[01:20] <BarkingFish> R resets the Keyboard, E Sends out Sigterm to everything except the Init, I Sends sigkill to the same, S syncs all mounted file systems, U remounts everything R/O, and B orders a reboot
[01:21] <BarkingFish> Kimlaroux: It's one of the only things I know - the keyboard might not be entirely borked, the system may just be running slowly - eventually it catches up
[01:21] <BarkingFish> you do that sequence slowly, like maybe 2 or 3 seconds between each key, and it reboots your machine safely
[01:21] <Kimlaroux> nice... but how do you start the thing? is it a keyboard combination or a command you have to type in console?
[01:22] <BarkingFish> You hold down ALT and SysRq, then press those keys in the order given
[01:22] <BarkingFish> You may find SysRq on the PrtSc key, or it may be separate
[01:23] <BarkingFish> Note, you press the keys while holding down Alt & SysRq, so you sorta need to be a contortionist :)
[01:24] <Kimlaroux> oh it says "syst" on my laptop's button... but in blue, that usually means I have to press Fn to use it
[01:24] <Kimlaroux> so alt+fn+printScreen+R...
[01:24] <Kimlaroux> outch
[01:24] <BarkingFish> yeah, that might be a bit tricky
[01:24] <Kimlaroux> I'm so taking a not of this... thanks for the tip
[01:24] <Kimlaroux> note*
[01:26] <BarkingFish> no problem
[01:26] <BarkingFish> there are other SysRq codes too, like Rapid poweroff, which is kind of dangerous, but useful if you have some sort of civil emergency as a shutdown
[01:26] <BarkingFish> Alt SysRq O
[01:28] <Kimlaroux> yeah I'm reading the wikipedia page =P http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[01:49] <luis_> can someone hear me?
[01:50] <luis_> Its the first time I use Konversation, I need to know if somone can hear me, please
[01:59] <Kimlaroux> luis_, nop, can't hear you
[02:04] <BarkingFish> obviously he believed you :)
[02:33] <luis__> hello
[02:34] <luis__> can someone hear me?
[02:36] <luis__> its the first time (aparently) I get connected, please, let me know if someone can hear me
[02:36] <luis__> I need to ask so many things
[04:03] <thechris> anyone know how to get a usb wifi adapator to work in linux?
[04:05] <DarthFrog> thechris: Just plug it in.
[04:05] <thechris> DarthFrog: and how do I get it to find AP's?
[04:05] <thechris> because right now, it doesn't
[04:06] <DarthFrog> Use the network tools (do you have a network icon on your systray?) to configure it.
[04:06] <DarthFrog> Within the network config is a scan utility.
[04:07] <thechris> DarthFrog: it doens't show any results
[04:07] <thechris> but the wifi is up.  My laptop is connected to it right now
[04:07] <DarthFrog> And if that doesn't work,  check that the NIC is actually supported by Linux.  Mind you, you should have done that before you bought it. :-)
[04:08] <DarthFrog> Is wireless networking enabled?
[04:08] <thechris> It should be, where is the setting for that?
[04:08] <DarthFrog> I use the Network Management utility.
[04:09] <DarthFrog> It's the one in your systray that looks like an RJ-45 jack.
[04:09] <thechris> I have "configure -- kde control module"
[04:09] <thechris> which has network settings
[04:10] <thechris> Ah, wireless is enabled
[04:10] <thechris> I just don't have any AP's listed
[04:10] <DarthFrog> Use the "Manage Connections"
[04:10] <thechris> There are no AP's listed
[04:11] <DarthFrog> There will be a "Scan" button somewhere that will show you the APs.
[04:11] <thechris> Yes, that shows no AP's
[04:11] <DarthFrog> At least, it will show you the ones broadcasting their SSIDs.
[04:12] <thechris> I see 0 AP's
[04:12] <DarthFrog> So either there are no APs in range or no APs are broadcasting their SSID.
[04:13] <thechris> There are about 2 dozen AP's in range according to my laptop
[04:13] <Kimlaroux> or there's something wrong with his setup... it happened to me before
[04:13] <thechris> and it is connected to the one that is nearby
[04:14] <thechris> there is a button on the side of the usb device
[04:14] <thechris> it makes an led turn blue, but doens't do anything else.
[04:14] <DarthFrog> thechris: Do you know that your device is supported?
[04:14] <DarthFrog> Does it need to have firmware loaded?
[04:14] <thechris> It was listed as having "good support" when I searched google.
[04:14] <Kimlaroux> thechris, hit alt+f2, type in "driver" and hit enter
[04:15] <thechris> the module has been loaded.
[04:15] <DarthFrog> Kimlaroux:  Typing "jockey" in krunner is better than just "driver", which is ambiguous.
[04:16] <thechris> rt2800
[04:16] <Kimlaroux> Oh thanks, i didn't know the app was named jockey
[04:17] <DarthFrog> thechris: According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralink#Linux , it needs a firmware loaded.
[04:19] <DarthFrog> !ralink | thechris
[04:19] <thechris> what am i looking for?
[04:20] <thechris> i've never like ubottu
[04:20] <DarthFrog> Kimlaroux: It's actually called jockey-kde.  There is also jockey-gtk and jockey-text.
[04:20] <Kimlaroux> Thanks
[04:20] <DarthFrog> thechris: Well, if I was the one with the problem and knowing that it needed a firmware to be loaded, I'd be trying find out how to do that.
[04:21] <thechris> yes, but the work 'firmware' never appears on ubottu's suggestion
[04:22] <DarthFrog> thechris:  Time to exercise your Google-fu.  I've never used a RaLink NIC before, sorry.
[04:22] <thechris> !ralink-firmware
[04:23] <thechris> !wifi+firmware
[04:23] <DarthFrog> thechris: Since this is not a specific Kubuntu problem (finding/loading firmware), you might get more help in the main #ubuntu channel as there is much more activity there.
[04:23] <thechris> !ralink+actually+go+to+a+page+about+ralink
[04:24] <DarthFrog> The bot only knows what it's been told.  Kinda like Jessica Rabbit. :-)
[04:24] <DarthFrog> thechris: Take this as your opportunity to contribute.  Solve your problem and then write a bot entry on it to help others. :-)
[04:31] <Kimlaroux> you can create bot entries?
[04:40] <dedman> hi, i am having a problem with kubuntu-desktop. All the widgets that i putup on my desktop dont start when i log in next time.
[04:40] <dedman> anyone know how to correct this ?
[04:42] <dedman> #include<iostream>
[04:46] <giantpune> hi, im using kubuntu 11.10.  i have a usb hard drive that is ntfs formatted.  usually when i connect it, it mounts with read and write access.  today i connected it and it is mounting read-only.  i dont see an entry for this hard drive in the fstab.  does anybody know how i would go about changing it back to read-write?
[04:48] <user26> Hello! Is anyone able to help me try and get HDMI working? I'm not getting the option available under the display configuration.
[04:52] <dedman> hi, i am having a problem with kubuntu-desktop. All the widgets that i putup on my desktop dont start when i log in next time.
[04:52] <dedman> anyone know how to correct this ?
[05:00] <giantpune> im thinking that maybe somehow i need to repair my partition or replay the journel or something like that.  does anybody know anything about doing that in kubuntu?
[05:01] <dedman> all my desktop widgets vanish, when i log out. anyone knows how to correct this ?
[05:12] <dedman> hi, i'm having problem with desktop widgets. After logout they disappear. However the changes to bottom panel are retained. Can anyone help me with this ?
[05:35] <giantpune> ok, apparently the partition is borked somehow.  gparted told me that it cant be fixed at all under linux, and said to load up windows somewhere and use chkdsk /f on it.
[06:06] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[06:48] <thechris> any ideas on how to get an asus usb-n53 that has "good" support in linux to work
[06:48] <thechris> rt2800 doesn't allow me to find AP's
[06:49] <thechris> I've finally built rt2870, but now wlan0/ra0 don't even appear
[08:21] <sabocat> I accidentally screwed up my home directory and can't login. Is there any way to reset it to the default configuration, or delete the user, and recreate that account?
[10:50] <kleopatra> Hello, Ark doesnt seem to recognize whether an archive is encrypted or not. it tries to open it but it wil last forever . using unrar everything works quite fine, but i like to use the rightclick on my archives. What can i do?
[11:51] <kleopatra> noone here to answer?
[11:59] <Torch> kleopatra: there's probably not much you can do. ark is known to be unmaintained and buggy.
[12:28] <Kottizen> hi - Kubuntu seems to disconnect me from the network after a certain amount of data has been sent, is this a bug or a feature?
[12:28] <Kottizen> it just cuts everything, and the network is wired
[12:28] <Peace-> mm
[12:28] <Peace-> Kottizen: this seems an unstable driver installed
[12:29] <Peace-> that doesn't work properly i guess it's a kernel releated problem
[12:29] <Kottizen> the thing is, I haven't touched the drivers
[12:29] <Peace-> Kottizen: doesn't matter ...
[12:29] <Peace-> maybe an upgrade of kernel....
[12:29] <Kottizen> nor the kernel, and when I boot there is only one kernel to choose
[12:29] <Kottizen> shall I try that?
[12:29] <Peace-> Kottizen: dio you use network manger?
[12:30] <Kottizen> yes
[12:30] <Peace-> Kottizen: keep in mind there is even wicd-kde
[12:30] <Peace-> Kottizen: try with wicd-kde
[12:30] <Peace-> try with another kernel too
[12:30] <Peace-> just test more ways
[12:30] <Peace-> here kde is working fine
[12:30] <Kottizen> okay, I will
[12:30] <Kottizen> in ~20 min, thanks for your suggestions
[12:36] <chris_rc1> hello
[12:38] <chris_rc1> i have a simple, almost stupid question. since google desktop is using up 100 % of cpu time in Oneiric and the project has been shit down, i'm looking into using strigi. but i cannot find a way to access it - like a frontend. and it does not seem to be integrated into krunner. how do i access the strigi db?
[12:38] <Torch> chris_rc1: it's supposed to be in krunner, though
[12:39] <chris_rc1> is there a plugin? i cannot find it in the list. and it does show me metadata (like mails contents), so i guess Nepomuk integration works
[12:40] <Torch> chris_rc1: i guess it's the nepomuk runner, but i don't use strigi myself so i can hardly help you with this
[12:41] <chris_rc1> do you use desktop search? if yes, what can you recommend?
[12:42] <Torch> chris_rc1: no, i don't use any indexer on my machines.
[12:42] <chris_rc1> Torch: thx anyway
[12:44] <Peace-> chris_rc1: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/12/30/plasma-desktopgX1463.png
[12:47] <chris_rc1> Peace-: yes, this is the nepomuk plugin. but it doesn't seem to work for strigi. the only  files i see are the ones in "recent files"
[12:49] <Peace-> chris_rc1: http://thomasmcguire.wordpress.com/2009/10/03/akonadi-nepomuk-and-strigi-explained/
[12:51] <Peace-> chris_rc1: http://trueg.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/gsoc-virtfolders-clara-nepomuk.png
[13:38] <Weasel[DK]> How to release an dhcp assigned ip address. Fro some reason "#sudo dhclient -r "  has no effect ?
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[13:58] <soee> are there any ppas with firefox qt already ?
[13:58] <Peace-> soee: you don't need of ppa
[13:58] <Peace-> soee: you can download it and run it xD
[13:58] <Peace-> you have not to compile it
[13:59] <kaddi> whats firefox qt? a qt version of firefox?
[13:59] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:59] <kaddi> heya :)
[13:59] <Peace-> kaddi: yes
[13:59] <kaddi> cool
[13:59] <kaddi> o.o
[13:59] <Peace-> but you need to change the theme
[13:59] <kaddi> hu?
[13:59] <Peace-> because the default theme doens't work properly
[14:00] <kaddi> ah
[14:00] <kaddi> and it's standalone?
[14:00] <kaddi> where do you get it?
[14:00] <BluesKaj> suddenly I'm getting this message when trying to launch desktop folders , KDEInit could not launch '/home/kaj/Videos
[14:01] <Peace-> mm
[14:01] <BluesKaj> or any other desktop folder for that matter
[14:01] <Peace-> BluesKaj: quote the name
[14:01] <BluesKaj> I did
[14:01] <Peace-> kaddi: yes is standalone
[14:01] <Peace-> kaddi: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-central-linuxqt/1325246899/
[14:01] <kaddi> ty
[14:02] <BluesKaj> Peace-, I drag these folders to the desktop and choose the icon view option , now they won't launch
[14:04] <Peace-> kaddi: 17mb
[14:04] <kaddi> yeh downloading it atm
[14:04] <kaddi> not the quickest server :p
[14:04] <Peace-> kaddi: then kill firefox normal firefox i mena and run firefox-bin
[14:05] <kaddi> (or not th quickest connection :p)
[14:05] <kaddi> they can't run side by side?
[14:07] <Peace-> kaddi: you need to close the normal one
[14:07] <kaddi> oups
[14:07] <kaddi> :P
[14:07] <Peace-> kaddi: and run the other because they are firefox
[14:07] <Peace-> and firefox doens't allow to run multiple istances
[14:07] <Peace-> BluesKaj: kde version?
[14:08] <BluesKaj> Peace-, 4.7.3
[14:08] <kaddi> well it's doing a segfault for me :(
[14:09] <kaddi> is there a stable version of it too? Or just the nightly built?
[14:09] <BluesKaj> I reverted to 11.10 from 12.04 and kde 4.7.9 beta , since it totally wiped out my audio and ability to launch anything from the panel
[14:09] <Peace-> kaddi: here is working
[14:09] <soee> doesnt work for me :)
[14:10] <Peace-> kaddi: try this...
[14:10] <kaddi> kaddi@homer:/tmp/firefox$ ./firefox
[14:10] <kaddi> ./firefox: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libQtGui.so.4: undefined symbol: _Z23qUnregisterResourceDataiPKhS0_S0_
[14:10] <kaddi> Segmentation faul
[14:10] <kaddi> that's what it says
[14:10] <FloodBotK1> kaddi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:10] <Peace-> nope man
[14:10] <Peace-> kaddi: run this  ./firefox-bin
[14:10] <kaddi> it gives the same message
[14:10] <kaddi> i just tried firefox after firefox-bin crashed
[14:10] <Peace-> kaddi: killall firefox
[14:11] <kaddi> no process found
[14:11] <Peace-> pkill firefox ?
[14:11] <soee> Peace-, XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /home/soee/Pobrane/firefox/libxpcom.so:
[14:11] <soee> libxul.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[14:11] <soee> Couldn't load XPCOM.
[14:11] <kaddi> k, and then just try to run it again?
[14:11] <Peace-> soee: well you  need to remove the extension
[14:11] <Peace-> i don't think they are compatible
[14:11] <soee> what extension ?
[14:11] <Peace-> from your profile
[14:12] <soee> pff :D
[14:12] <soee> cant do it
[14:12] <Peace-> soee: /home/soee/Pobrane/firefox/libxpcom.so:
[14:12] <Peace-> that is your home...
[14:12] <Peace-> just rename the firefox folder then
[14:12] <kaddi> ./firefox-bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libQtGui.so.4: undefined symbol: _Z23qUnregisterResourceDataiPKhS0_S0_ i'm still getting this on every start
[14:13] <Peace-> :) well i have 12.04 xD
[14:13] <kaddi> and a segfault before the page is finished loading
[14:13] <soee> Peace-, how 12.04 works ?
[14:15] <Peace-> soee: here is working fine
[14:15] <Peace-> but ^here^
[14:17] <Peace-> soee:  kaddi http://wstaw.org/m/2011/12/30/plasma-desktopuN1463.png
[14:17] <Peace-> thsi is firefox-qt
[14:18] <soee> Peace-, it has to be in some specific folder ?
[14:18] <Peace-> soee: no
[14:18] <Peace-> i just downloaded the 17mb targz and extracteedd
[14:19] <soee> hmm it has to be lunched by firefox or firefox-bin ?
[14:20] <Peace-> soee: there are 3 lauchers
[14:20] <kaddi> nice, i get it to open, but it just immediately crashes afterwards
[14:20] <Peace-> soee: there is a script firefox and firefox-bin
[14:20] <Peace-> soee: here works with firefox-bin
[14:24] <kaddi> Peace-: did you create a new profile for the qt firefox?
[14:28] <kaddi> it still segfaults with no userprofile
[14:30] <BluesKaj> Peace-, I see a message in the taskbar  "sorry- plasma desktop shell". when the "kdeinit could not launch" message appears on the desktop
[14:50] <kaddi> even uninstalled the current firefox version.. and it's no dice :(
[14:53] <soee> can i see somehow notifications history ?
[14:53] <soee> there are some notifications about error with aconadi.notes..
[14:56] <_srp> Hi, today i upgraded my linux machine from kubuntu 11.04  to 11.10.. everything was fine.. but just now suddenly all the UI elements have become opaque..  i had my  panel, konsole, title bar set to semi transparent till now but all of a sudden it has become complately opaque..  any help pls...
[14:57] <lethu> _srp, try $ killall plasma-desktop && plasma-desktop
[14:57] <lethu> in your console
[14:59] <Peace-> BluesKaj: have 4.7.3? right ?
[14:59] <Peace-> BluesKaj: you coudl upgrade your kde
[15:00] <Peace-> BluesKaj: in the repo there is 4.7.4
[15:00] <BluesKaj> Peace-, it was the same problem in 4.7.9
[15:00] <Peace-> maybe you could fix your problem... btw you can test creating a new user if you have this issue
[15:01] <_srp> lethu: tried it... no use.. it still persists
[15:01] <lethu> mmhh
[15:01] <lethu> _srp, go to systems settings
[15:02] <lethu> _srp, then desktop effects
[15:02] <lethu> _srp, check if desktop effects are enabled
[15:04] <_srp> lethu: it says "desktop effects not available on this system due to the following technical issues".. openGL compositing has crashed kWin in the past
[15:08] <lethu> _srp, which graphic driver are you using?
[15:08] <_srp> lethu: how do i find this out?
[15:09] <_srp> lethu: in fact i was working in my kubuntu 11.10
[15:09] <kaddi> random question: firefox-qt and aurora are not the same, yes?
[15:09] <lethu> _srp, go to the applications menu
[15:09] <BluesKaj> Peace-, , upgrading to 4.7.4
[15:09] <lethu> then system
[15:10] <lethu> _srp, and clic on Additional drivers
[15:11] <_srp> lethu: it says... no proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[15:12] <lethu> _srp, can you chose the proprietary one and install it?
[15:16] <_srp> lethu: there is no option.. its empty..
[15:19] <BluesKaj> _srp, any driver options at all ?
[15:19] <_srp> BluesKaj: no :(
[15:20] <BluesKaj> _srp, , run lspci | grep VGA
[15:22] <BluesKaj> we need to know the graphics card
[15:23] <Peace-> BluesKaj: i did a special layout for panels called :) kde3
[15:23]  * BluesKaj nods .. Peace-  :)
[15:23] <BluesKaj> ok , brb
[15:24] <_srp> BluesKaj: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[15:25] <lethu> _srp, sorry can't help there, I have no experience with integrated graphics cards
[15:26] <lethu> _srp, if it was a nvidia or ati, you would still have the option of installing it manually
[15:27] <_srp> lethu: where can i get more help?? im sure mine is not nvidia.. im not sure whether mine's ati..
[15:28] <lethu> _srp, google is your friend, it helped me solve a good set of issues, you just need to use the right keywords
[15:29] <_srp> lethu: ok... will look for it.. thanks a lot :)
[15:30] <lethu> _srp, my pleasure :)
[15:32] <BluesKaj> Peace-, no change  :(
[15:36] <Peace-> BluesKaj: create a new user please
[15:36] <Peace-> BluesKaj: maybe there is some weird config
[15:36] <Peace-> sudo adduser bluez
[15:36] <Peace-> xD
[15:37] <Peace-> sudo adduser bluez admin
[15:39] <BluesKaj> Peace-, just getting "user does not exist"messages
[16:00] <pawiecki> hello
[16:05] <pawiecki> do you know how to get rid of kubuntu netbook version? i have a Samsung n210 netbook but want standard desktop environment
[16:06] <Peace-> sudo apt-get remove plasma-netbook ; sudo apt-get install plama-desktop
[16:07] <pawiecki> ah sorry forgot to tell it's a live usb image
[16:07] <pawiecki> wanted to test how it works
[16:07] <pawiecki> on my netbook
[16:07] <Peace-> you need to run plasma-destkop and kill plasma-netbook
[16:07] <Peace-> that's all
[16:11] <toumbo> Does anyone know how to save a streaming data ".pls" into a file with amarok?
[16:18] <pawiecki> Peace-: could you tell me commands to run plasma-desktop and kill plasma netbook? i can't even get Alt+F2 work in this plasma netbook thing :/
[16:19] <Peace-> konsole
[16:20] <Peace-> pkill plasma-netbook ; plasma-desktop
[16:20] <Peace-> but you need to be sure you have both
[16:21] <pawiecki> well i think so, on other pc the same usb booted to normal desktop
[16:31] <BluesKaj> heh Peace- , the new user can't login , even tho the pw and username are setup properly in user management , the new user requires anew pw at login and won't accept the pw set in user management ... this is a real screwup...very disappointing
[16:34] <BluesKaj> Peace-, anyway the folderview in the panel is a good substitute for desktop shortcuts
[16:39] <Peace-> BluesKaj: this sucks
[16:39] <Peace-> :(
[16:41] <BluesKaj> Peace-, , the desktop and panel shortcuts are very handy to me
[16:41] <BluesKaj> plasma is breaking the link somehow
[16:44] <BluesKaj> i'm thinking there's a config file in init that's causing this , but I don't know how to fix it ...maybe I should save my ~/ withouut the ~/.files  and do a complete reinstall
[17:27] <Guest29996> how do i use the 3d cube?
[17:30] <BluesKaj> Guest29996, open system settings > desktop effects>all effects , also click  "enable desktop effects at startup"
[17:36] <merlin1991> I had an odd issue, even though in kmix and alsamixer everything is max the sound from my notebook is still so low it's hard to hear
[17:37] <dmz41> show file/folder icons on desktop?
[17:37] <BluesKaj> merlin1991, do you have vol ctrls on the keyboard ?
[17:37] <merlin1991> no only a wheel on the side of the notebook
[17:38] <merlin1991> also up to max
[17:38] <Peace-> merlin1991: alsamixer -V all
[17:40] <merlin1991> Peace-: a few more channels though even with the sound stays low
[17:40] <merlin1991> *even with them maxed out too*
[17:42] <BluesKaj> merlin1991, which soundcard ? alsmixer will show ir in the top left
[17:42] <merlin1991> hda intel
[17:43] <BluesKaj> bbiab , gotta clean snow off vehicle for wifey
[17:43] <merlin1991> it's kinda odd though, ps aux shows me /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog running? oO
[17:44] <clivie> hallo
[17:46] <merlin1991> it appears that pulseaudio is installed though
[17:46] <merlin1991> could that be the root of all evil?
[17:52] <Peace-> merlin1991: pkill pulseaudio
[17:52] <Peace-> merlin1991: try after
[17:52] <Peace-> the best is alwyas with konsoel
[17:53] <Peace-> konsole
[17:53] <Peace-> play some mp3 on konsole with
[17:53] <merlin1991> ...
[17:53] <Peace-> play path
[17:53] <Peace-> i guess you need to install sox libsox-fmt-all
[17:53] <merlin1991> :D
[17:54] <merlin1991> it suggests it right away
[17:54] <merlin1991> hm no handler for mp3 in play
[17:54] <Peace-> because you have not installed libsox-fmt-all
[17:54] <merlin1991> I guess that's in libsox-fmt-all
[17:54] <merlin1991> I guess the fmt-ffmpeg one is for mp3 :P
[17:55] <Peace-> well you need medibuntu repository maybe
[17:55] <Peace-> i am not sure because i active always medibuntu
[17:55] <merlin1991> it plays
[17:55] <merlin1991> but as low as before killing pa
[17:55] <Peace-> mmm
[17:56] <Peace-> lspci | grep -i audio
[17:56] <merlin1991> because pa is still around
[17:56] <merlin1991> ffs it somehow came back from the dead
[17:56] <merlin1991> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[17:56] <Peace-> merlin1991: sudo apt-get install plasma-widget-veromix
[17:57] <Peace-> merlin1991: then you can add the widget yo your dock
[17:57] <Peace-> it's a mixer for pulse
[18:01] <merlin1991> Peace-: slider in the widget is all maxed out too
[18:04] <merlin1991> Peace-: any idea why I have pa running at all?
[18:08] <BluesKaj> merlin1991, you can try without pulseaudio, some cards are fine without it , alsa is all they need
[18:10] <merlin1991> yes
[18:10] <merlin1991> apt-get remove --purge pulseaudio && reboot
[18:10] <merlin1991> and I have sound
[18:10] <merlin1991> gotta love failaudio
[18:10] <merlin1991> now everything works just fine
[18:11] <mijin> ada yang dari indonesia..
[18:11] <merlin1991> BluesKaj: since when does kubuntu include pa?
[18:12] <BluesKaj> merlin1991, make sure you have web audio as well, ..like youtube etc
[18:12] <BluesKaj> since 9.10 I think merlin1991
[18:13] <merlin1991> flash sound still works
[18:13] <BluesKaj> I'm not a fan of pulse but I need it for web audio content otherwise I would purge it
[18:13] <merlin1991> what's the rationale behind pa?
[18:13] <BluesKaj> merlin1991, good :)
[18:13] <merlin1991> for me it was just a layer on top of alsa that made things worse
[18:14] <DarthFrog> merlin1991:  Basically, to uncomplicate sound on Linux.  yeah, right.
[18:14] <DarthFrog> Sound on Linux is the bastard child of "a maze of twisty passages, all alike" and a dog's breakfast, a horrible metaphorical miscegenation.
[18:15] <BluesKaj> merlin1991, I heard it was a political thing at canonical and one of the devs behind the pulse app lobbied like mad to have his soundserver included as default in the next ubuntu OS
[18:16] <merlin1991> ah so simple poettering :D
[18:17] <BluesKaj> unfortunately flash doesn't use alsa directly with my soundcard on webcontent , so I need pulse to link it
[18:22] <Daskreech> Poettering without RedHat?
[18:26] <BluesKaj> iwas gonna ask , who/what is poettering?
[18:35] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: Works for Redhat. seems very focused on rewriting nearly all layers of Linux distros above the kernel
[18:36] <Daskreech> Wrote Pulseaudio and Systemd. Is currently deprecating syslogd
[18:43] <BluesKaj> Daskreech, well he has some supporters at canonical for his pulseaudio app ...dunno why I can't get flash and other audio content on websites to work without pulse
[18:45] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: Yeah he seems to have interesting ways of getting dependencies into his designs
[18:47] <rosco_y> how can I make focus follow my mouse, without having to click?
[18:51] <Daskreech> rosco_y: alt+F2 -> mouse
[19:05] <BluesKaj> Daskreech, my onboard soundcard doesn't require pulse for web audio content , but my new m-aidio 192 card does ...the m-audio works well with anything on the hdd , even flv files ...that's the odd part
[19:06] <BluesKaj> I should add ,without pulseaudio
[19:20] <jmut> hi. running kubuntu. I had my GT 8600 video card stopped working. That is even on BIOS level. So I had it changed with GT 7600  - old card that I had just to temporary fill the gap. Problem is that linux will not recognise this card..and after I pass the grub boot loader... screen just says no signal and thats all. no screen
[19:20] <jmut> where can I read how I should proceed with this
[19:24] <DemonWitch> how can i disable hard disk checks on boot? (even forced ones)
[19:25] <BluesKaj> jmut, I'm using a 7600gt as well on this pc , do you have the bios enabled for pci graphics ?
[19:26] <jmut> BluesKaj: well I should. haven't thought about it..cause 8600GT that I had was on same PCI express slot
[19:26] <jmut> BluesKaj: also I have dual boot. and all works smooth on windows with the 760
[19:26] <jmut> 7600
[19:27] <BluesKaj> yeah, but if you rebooted without the pci card even once the default becomes the onboard
[19:27] <jmut> BluesKaj: not sure what you mean. the MB doesn't have built in video
[19:28] <BluesKaj> IC , that's unusual
[19:28] <jmut> I assume I should do some trick with grub if possible to run generic video or something. although sounds weird to control this with grub
[19:29] <jmut> and from there on...to try to install valid drivers for 7600
[19:31] <BluesKaj> jmut, yeah , if you can get to a tty , then run , jockey-text -a
[19:37] <BluesKaj> jmut, obviously you're aware that nvidia-current driver also applies to the 7600gt
[19:37] <jmut> BluesKaj: yeah..I was hoping for a miracle...but
[19:38] <jmut> BluesKaj: also..I am scanning the network... to see if it took some weird IP and get inside. no luck so far
[19:38] <BluesKaj> jmut, you may need to use the nomodeset in /etc/default/grub
[19:38] <BluesKaj> !nomodeset
[19:39] <BluesKaj> then run sudo update-grub after editing
[19:39] <jmut> BluesKaj: thanks will read on that
[19:40] <jmut> BluesKaj: not even sure if have grub2 :( quite old setup there.
[19:40] <BluesKaj> what kubuntu version , jmut ?
[19:41] <jmut> BluesKaj: donno...I rearaly use it.....it's for backup only. hardly any upgrades there. I just use it over ssh to backup now and then
[19:41] <jmut> BluesKaj: it's not 24/7 up system or something. start it up on demand
[19:43] <BluesKaj> lsb_release -a
[19:47] <jmut> BluesKaj: I think nomodeset helped. and now I see why I coulnd't get ssh to system.
[19:48] <jmut> BluesKaj:  it says there are errors and F to fix ... I to ignore etc etc.. will wait a bit and see what happens
[19:49] <BluesKaj> jmut, perhaps the ssh server needs updating
[19:50] <jmut> BluesKaj: now just system cannot boot yet... mentioning hdd errors. I guess when I tried to start it...it started disk check...since no mount for long time..since black screen I ctrl+alt+del it...hopefully didn't mess something. will see
[19:50] <jmut> BluesKaj:  assuming I run the system. how would you suggest is best way to update graphic drivers?
[19:53] <jmut> BluesKaj: yay. back in business. Release:        11.10   Codename:       oneiric
[19:53] <BluesKaj> cool
[19:56] <BluesKaj> jmut, look in kmenu>apps>system > additional drivers, choose and install the recommended driver there..it will ask for a reboot after it's finished , takes a few mins
[20:07] <jmut> BluesKaj: lovely. I think it worked out nicely. nice resolution. glxgears works.   see really weird artifacts on screen while booting kubuntu but when login screen appears all great.
[20:08] <jmut> BluesKaj:  thanks a lot!
[20:14] <BluesKaj> jmut, glad to hear it :)
[20:48] <cjae> anyone know how to transfer files to an ipad, I have read amarok and the like, but fail to see the options needed. Also I would like to transfer things other than music
[20:49] <Daskreech> Is it hacked?
[20:49] <cjae> not yet
[20:49]  * Daskreech doesn't actually know anything. Just presuming that would be required
[20:49] <cjae> thinking about installing android on it
[20:50] <cjae> but would like to see what else is possble first
[20:51] <cjae> I am thinking there is something missing from kubuntu that might be in ubuntu, says something about dejavu (though I am not sure what that is)
[20:52] <BluesKaj> cjae, in what context ?
[20:53] <cjae> pardon
[20:54] <BluesKaj> where did you see this , cjae ?
[20:54] <cjae> when I plug it in all I see is camera under device notification
[20:55] <cjae> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/4791/how-to-use-amarok-to-manage-your-ipod/
[20:56] <cjae> or is ipad too different to an ipod
[20:57] <BluesKaj> dejavu is a font
[20:57] <Daskreech> ipad is quite a bit different
[20:57] <Resistance> cjae:  they use different drivers
[20:57] <cjae> ahh
[20:57] <Resistance> cjae:  among other things, which prevents you from using amarok to manage the iPod
[20:57] <Resistance> as well, the latest iPod/iPad updates nixed the support that existed
[20:57]  * Resistance has tested
[20:58] <cjae> shitz weak
[20:58] <cjae> ....
[20:58] <Resistance> !language | for what its worth:
[20:58] <cjae> oh right
[20:59] <Resistance> but fwiw, also, this is why I keep a WinXP/Win7 VM handy :P
[20:59] <Resistance> not to mention the win7 on the other half of this hard drive
[20:59]  * Resistance runs dualboot
[20:59] <cjae> me too
[20:59] <Daskreech> Yay VMs
[20:59] <cjae> but my vista partition very small
[20:59] <cjae> also have vms
[21:00]  * Resistance has a 1TB laptop hard drive.
[21:00] <Resistance> :P
[21:01] <cjae> so either hack ipad, or dual boot it or reboot and enlarge win partition
[21:01] <cjae> hmmmm
[21:01] <Resistance> well hacking the iPad will likely break it :p
[21:01] <cjae> seems like it well established now
[21:19] <Wouter__> Using a live usb stick, how do I find out what size the harddrive is on this laptop
[21:20] <DarthFrog> Wouter__: you could run "sudo fdisk -l".
[21:21] <Wouter__> Hi all
[21:22] <WoutAtKubuntu> Hi
[21:31] <deer3212> how can I clone a DL dvd?
[21:31] <DarthFrog> deer3212: To another DL dvd or to a single layer DVD?
[21:32] <DarthFrog> deer3212: In either case, use k9copy and k3b.
[21:32] <deer3212> to hdd...
[21:32] <DarthFrog> Do you want an ISO image or video files?
[21:32] <deer3212> does k3b makes a hdd image?
[21:33] <DarthFrog> It can.
[21:33] <deer3212> video files
[21:33] <thelonelyarcher> Hi everyone. Is there a way to have native gtk2 apps like Inkscape follow the set widget theme in kde? Currently using qtcurve, but inkscape for example default to the oxygen look-alike, which look horribly out of place. How can i get it to follow qtcurve instead? Any help appreciated.
[21:33] <deer3212> to play on  my tv from my external hdd
[21:33] <DarthFrog> To rip a DVD to video files, use dvdrip.
[21:33] <deer3212> acid dvd rip?
[21:33] <deer3212> I tried but doesn't work
[21:34] <DarthFrog> No.  the program is called dvdrip.
[21:34] <BluesKaj> deer3212, VLC plays ISO image video files
[21:34] <BluesKaj> directly
[21:34] <deer3212> i know, but my tv doesn't
[21:35] <deer3212> I want to conect the external hdd to tv and play it
[21:35] <deer3212> not from  my laptop
[21:35] <DarthFrog> Your TV will play a video file directly from an external HD?
[21:35] <BluesKaj> must be a nice hdd
[21:35] <DarthFrog> And an even nicer TV.
[21:36] <BluesKaj> hehe
[21:36] <deer3212_> :)
[21:36] <BluesKaj> methinks the video connection is the problem
[21:36] <deer3212_> and I tried earlyer with vlc but I get a error....
[21:37] <BluesKaj> ok deer3212_ install libdvdcss2 first of all
[21:37] <deer3212_> I think that the dvd has some good encryptio software  :)
[21:37] <deer3212_> aaaaa
[21:37] <deer3212_> ;)
[21:38] <deer3212_> I did that: libdvdcss2 is already the newest version.
[21:39] <BluesKaj> and probly kubuntu-restricted-extras as well , altho I think it contains alot of unwanted 32bit flash junk
[21:40] <Daskreech> deer3212_: man dd
[21:41] <BluesKaj> dd should work , but VLC should play the file directly
[21:41] <DarthFrog> Daskreech:  dd won't do what he wants.  he's not looking for an ISO image.
[21:41] <Daskreech> Ah misread that
[21:41] <DarthFrog> It sounds like he needs to use dvdrip to make AVI files.
[21:41] <deer3212_> I am  installing now dvdrip
[21:41] <deer3212_> let see if works
[21:42] <BluesKaj> not sure if he wants to copy/clone or just play it
[21:42] <DarthFrog> Oh, it works.  I've used it a lot.
[21:42] <deer3212_> DL dvd's might create extra problems
[21:42] <DarthFrog> Nope.
[21:42] <DarthFrog> Nothing special about reading a DL DVD.
[21:43] <BluesKaj> deer3212_,, what exactly do you want to do with the file ?
[21:43] <DarthFrog> Writing a DL dvd is another matter.
[21:44] <BluesKaj> yup, never ever tried that
[21:45] <DarthFrog> The only reason I've not tried is the high price of DL blanks.
[21:45] <BluesKaj> copy files to a stick is easiest if you want portability
[21:46] <BluesKaj> edven 30buck dvd players have usb ports these days
[21:57] <Daskreech> How are you BluesKaj ?
[22:04] <archie> hi
[22:04] <archie> anyone there
[22:05] <archie> pricks
[22:05] <Daskreech> Maybe
[22:10] <BluesKaj> hi Daskreech , just fine , thanks for asking :) .and how about you ?
[22:11] <Resistance> that language wasnt necessary from them, was it..?
[22:15] <BluesKaj> Resistance, certainly not ... there's a lot of impatience with the ppl who are used to instant gratification :(
[22:15] <Daskreech> Resistance: if only what was necessary was done the world would be remarkably different
[22:15] <Resistance> they need to have thought resequencing imo
[22:15] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: I'm alright but still need some more Internet infusion
[22:15]  * Resistance hooks Daskreech up to a youtube IV drip
[22:16] <BluesKaj> infusion , Daskreech ?
[22:17] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: No net connection for a mont
[22:17] <Daskreech>  wil get it bac next week :)
[22:19] <BluesKaj> Daskreech, usingf your phone ?
[22:20] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: Nope
[22:20] <Daskreech> Mooching off a friend
[22:20] <BluesKaj> ok
[22:28] <ubuntu> hi when i try to run the kubuntu11.10 setup i'm get the below error
[22:28] <ubuntu> ubiquity[21578] Traceback (most recent call last):
[22:28] <ubuntu> ubiquity[21578] File "/usr/lib/ubiquity/ubiquity/frontend/kde_components/PartitionModel.py", line 99, in parent
[22:28] <ubuntu> ubiquity[21578] parentItem = childItem.parent()
[22:28] <ubuntu> ubiquity[21578] AttributeError: 'AutoFormattingFlag' object has no attribute 'parent'
[22:31] <deer3212> dvd rip doesn't do DL dvd...I have tried ....
[22:31] <deer3212> maybe I need an extra dependencies or something
[22:32] <rosco_y> I'm trying to msg in #sql, but I get an error:   "[404] rosco_y #sql Cannot send to channel", can anyone tell me what is wrong?
[22:33] <Daskreech> !register
[22:33] <rosco_y> Thank yu Daskreech :)
[22:33] <BluesKaj> deer3212, what about k3b?
[22:39] <BluesKaj> later folks ...time for dinner etc soon
[22:53] <deer3212> I am goana try right now k3b.....will take a while.....
[23:06]  * Daskreech likes k3b
[23:17] <pedro> hi every one
[23:18] <benonsoftware> Hello pedro
[23:19] <pawiecki> hi, i have very slow connection with download limits. I installed, updated and configured kubuntu 11.10 at my friends loptop. I'm impressed how good it is so i wanted to install it on my netbook too. The problem is, that updating, installing full language support and some programs is much of downloading time for me (about a day or two...) can i somehow use the packages from my friends PC?
[23:19] <pawiecki> hi pedro
[23:20] <pedro> i have kubuntu 11.10 and i try to install lamp
[23:21] <pedro> and it broken
[23:23] <Resistance> define broken
[23:23] <Resistance> brb, got to go find my LiveCD to run extended file system checks
[23:26] <pedro> the instalation stop and i have restart
[23:27] <Daskreech> pawiecki: Yes
[23:28] <pawiecki> Daskreech: how to make it?
[23:30] <Daskreech> pawiecki: copy the contents of /var/cache/apt/archives to your computer. The same location
[23:30] <Daskreech> pedro: why did it stop?
[23:30] <pawiecki> will it work if i already rebooted friend's laptop?
[23:31] <Daskreech> pawiecki: Yes
[23:31] <pawiecki> and is it safe on different hardware?/
[23:32] <pawiecki> maybe it's stupid question but i want to be sure not to break something :)
[23:33] <Daskreech> pawiecki: Very few horribly stupid questions here :)
[23:34] <Daskreech> It's a cache of the packages when you do an update that's where they are downloaded to.
[23:34] <pedro> Daskreech: i dont know why  the instalation frezed
[23:35] <Daskreech> They are generally kept there in case of anything. If you reinstall something instead of downloading it again it just uses that file. If you copy those files to your computer it will assume that they were downloaded already and just use them once they match the checksum
[23:35] <Daskreech> pedro: where did it freeze?
[23:37] <pedro> after de download and in 1 step of instalation
[23:37] <pawiecki> and i need to "apt-get update" ?
[23:40] <Daskreech> pawiecki: yes :)
[23:41] <Daskreech> pedro: how are you installing?
[23:43] <pawiecki> this looks quite simple and easy. I'll try that tomorrow, thanks :) Now i need some sleep, bye.
[23:44] <pedro> Daskreech: i solved i install  tasksel and now i have made install in console whith comand "apt-get install tasksel"
[23:44] <Daskreech> pedro: great
[23:44] <pedro> thanks