[00:14] <Fudge> AlanBell  thats expected response
[00:14] <Fudge> i will have to get someone to help me visually, i cant boot into precise currently :(
[00:14] <AlanBell> :(
[00:15] <AlanBell> I think I will do some screencasts and audio of navigating the desktop, it is rubbish right now
[00:16] <Fudge> did you see my message about the middle click, i read back on one of your posts and adding the shift key opens a second instance
[00:17] <AlanBell> oh I did, but didn't try it yet
[00:18] <AlanBell> odd, not working for me
[00:19] <AlanBell> ctrl+alt+tab to get to the panel, highlight the nautilus icon and shift return just moves focus to the nautilus window
[00:20] <Fudge> i thought it was in the launcher, alt f1 move to an app that is already running and shift enter
[00:20] <Fudge> or maybe shift super #
[00:21] <AlanBell> shift+super+1 opens new instances of Nautilus
[00:22] <Fudge> ah excellent
[00:22] <Fudge> im trying to figure out how to recreate nautilus dieing but cant
[00:22] <Fudge> sometimes, control R - refresh, after deleting something or just because
[00:23] <Fudge> super 1, nautilus doesnt get focus until tab/shift tab or alt tab/shift alt tab
[00:23] <Fudge> same with gedit doesnt get focus with orca either, alt tab back to it gives focus
[00:29] <AlanBell> it seems to switch focus for me, but I think I will do some screencasts and things tomorrow
[00:29] <AlanBell> night all o/
[00:32] <Fudge> cheers AlanBell
[00:46] <FernandoTopGear> nite
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> hey guys, under unity shell I am missing the clock. Is this a known issue (websearching now too, just wondered if it was a very known glitch)
[10:16] <geser> no clock at all?
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> geser: just seems to have vanished, gotta have more of a play but just spotted it last night
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> curious if the new 'no icons in systray' regime knocked it out
[14:13] <gnomefreak> anyone know of a good app to comment/read facebook?
[14:13] <bazhang> !find facebook
[14:13] <bazhang> !info python-facebook
[14:15] <gnomefreak> im looking for an easy/good app, not a list of them. im already looking at them in synaptic but im looking more for recommened
[14:16] <bazhang> face book and good. thats a tough one
[14:16] <gnomefreak> :)
[14:18] <Ian_Corne> gnomefreak: chromium-browser is pretty ok to read facebook
[14:18] <Ian_Corne> :p
[14:19] <gnomefreak> Ian_Corne: so are all the others but im looking for an app that i can use from desktop not a browser
[14:19] <Ian_Corne> :D
[14:20] <gnomefreak> is facebook a blog by chance? or is it called something else?
[14:22] <gnomefreak> for example is Drivel compatable with facebook
[14:23] <Ian_Corne> errr
[14:25] <gnomefreak> it seems that gnomeblog and drivel does not list anything like tweeter and facebook./me needs a smoke
[14:40] <gnomefreak> it also seems that pidgins facebook app doesnt work, cant login
[18:20] <arri> hi,i'm installing grub2-efi booted 12.04 (no hybrid MBR) on a macbook, but read about possibly bricking the macbook.. (http://goo.gl/swfqe) - is this a no-go? at least for now?
[18:21] <arri> i'm having trouble getting all the facts around this issue aligned.. i read different things.
[18:21] <arri> just don't want to end-up with a dead laptop (that's just out of warrenty)
[18:22] <urlin2u> are you trying to install 12.04?
[18:22] <arri> yes
[18:22] <urlin2u> use a virtual.
[18:23] <urlin2u> 12.04 is not stable and is not with your description a good idea
[18:24] <arri> yes, i've done that too.. ;) - but i was actually studdying the boot-process, and wrapping my head around the mbr/gpt/efi dance..
[18:25] <arri> but i guess this is less of an 12.04 issue - rather grub2/macbook-efi ?
[18:26] <urlin2u> arri, I have never seen a person on the ubuntu IRC channels use other then the 3rd party bootloader setups I seriously doubt you will get the information you need on them.
[18:26] <arri> 3rd party?
[18:27] <urlin2u> arri, you trying to avaoid the bootcamp and what ever else, and you just saying your trying 12.04 your wasting your time and others as well.
[18:28] <arri> well, i beg you pardon..
[18:28] <arri> for reference, perhaps interesting: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
[18:28] <arri> thanks for your help.
[18:30] <arri> from above url, http://pastie.org/3097274 is why i was asking..
[18:31] <arri> happy new-year
[18:32] <iiname> hello
[18:34] <iiname> i have a problem with precise.  It was working fine, but I installed some .deb files with software center after which there is a problem with the menu bar on the left and top. Both the menus are not visible.  unity --reset finds plenty of errors and is hanging. Is Unity the display manager in 12.04?
[18:37] <th^2> hello all
[18:37] <iiname> hello
[18:38] <th^2> soo is the 12.04 going to be good?
[18:38] <Ian_Corne> yes
[18:38] <Ian_Corne> it will be awesome!
[18:38] <th^2> hmm
[18:38] <th^2> what are the changes?
[18:38] <davidcalle> It will.
[18:39] <Ian_Corne> They're throwing out the old, in with the new
[18:39] <th^2> compared to 11.10
[18:40] <davidcalle> Not a lot of visible changes right now (except in the gnome-control-center tabs). Unity changes will begin to land during january.
[18:41] <davidcalle> It also seems faster and more responsive. (Thanks to newer graphic driver)
[18:41] <iiname> Ian_Corne I am trying 12.04 on a tablet, working fine, but suddenly the menu bar disappeared tried unity --reset did not help
[18:42] <th^2> faster and more responsive is always good
[18:42] <davidcalle> iiname, the whole top panel?
[18:42] <iiname> the top and the left panel
[18:42] <th^2> iiname, wich tablet?
[18:42] <iiname> davidcalle the top and left panel
[18:42] <iiname> th^2 tycoon tvb00
[18:43] <th^2> iiname, whats that?
[18:43] <davidcalle> iiname, looks like a Unity crash... What about unity --replace ?
[18:43] <iiname> davidcalle i tried to install .deb files to fix the touch screen issues (using software center) then it crashed
[18:44] <iiname> davidcalle that is a good idea. will try right now ( tried unity --reset, it did not work)
[18:46] <iiname> davidcalle paste.ubuntu.com/788178
[18:50] <iiname> th^2  It is a tablet pc from fic a taiwaneese company that makes good hardware
[18:51] <iiname> davidcalle  running unity --replace the same errors appear :  errors like org.ayatana.bamf.view does not exist unable to load contents of svg/category-available
[18:53] <iiname> davidcalle the strange thing is that the menu buttons ARE there, but invisible.  The invisible buttons respond to mouse click in their probabable locations
[18:55] <davidcalle> iiname, try sudo apt-get install unity, to see if your new debs have removed important packages.
[18:59] <iiname> davidcalle yes,  in the meantime I located info about a package called myunity from canonical, it is there is the synoptic package list, installing it, will take a moment to try and see if myunity has any features to fix what is broken, or otherwise reinstall unity...  (from synaptic?)
[19:00] <davidcalle> iiname, myunity won't help you with this issue, it's just a tweak tool.
[19:00] <davidcalle> Maybe reinstalling unity could work. Yes, from Synaptic.
[19:00] <iiname> davidcalle myunity installation is getting finished. will skip trials and follow your advice to reinstall unity
[19:01] <iiname> davidcalle from package manager just unity or packages like unity 2d place, unity 2dpanel etc?
[19:02] <davidcalle> Just unity.
[19:03] <iiname> synaptic installed unity and applied chages
[19:03] <iiname> but there is no change visible on the desktop
[19:03] <davidcalle> Ok, now try unity --replace
[19:10] <iiname> davidcalle cannot call method SetActive Proxy /com/canonical/unity/lens ... can not fine /places/svg/ unable to locate theme engine
[19:12] <iiname> davidcalle I think reinstalling all unity packages might help  some of the packages might fill in missing files - packages like unity-places and unity-lens could be answer to the above errors
[19:13] <davidcalle> iiname, these warnings are ok. It seems to be an incompatibility between the new packages you have installed and Compiz, which displays Unity on the screen. What unity-lens packages are you missing?
[19:13] <davidcalle> In Synaptic I mean, are some unity-lens-* packages not installed?
[19:15] <iiname> there was an error related to a file on the path com/canonical/unity/lens and another erorr on the path /places/svg -- this one specific to a missing file  so will now try installing all unity packages ( In synaptic the packages are shown installed, but terminal returns error on the path of places and lens
[19:16] <davidcalle> iiname, I've looked into your paste.ubuntu log and I have the same one if I unity --replace, so it's not the issue.
[19:17] <davidcalle> What debs did you install for your touchscreen issues?
[19:29] <iinamenew> davidcalle  the deb files were meant for another tablet pc in the category it was for eeepc to fix some issues related to the i915 display driver in my tablet
[19:29] <iinamenew> trying to locate the same file
[19:30] <davidcalle> iinamenew, ok
[19:37] <iinamenew> davidcalle eepc-acpi-workaround_0.1-ppa4_all.deb eeepc-brightness-workaround_1.0-ppa4_all.deb eepc-powersave_1.0-ppa_all.deb egalax-multitouch-driver-common_0.3.0-ppa1_all.deb eeepc-touchpad-twofingers_0.2-ppa2_all.deb
[19:38] <iinamenew> davidcalle i doubleclicked the files, it launched software center and I clicked the install button, there was no visible activity, just that software center dimmed and then came back to life, one of the files (or all them) had to do with some modification to the grub
[19:40] <davidcalle> iinamenew, I have to go, but I'll see if I find something helpful for you :)
[19:41] <iinamenew> davidcalle thanks  I localed the url it was ppa.launchpad.net/plippo/t101mt/ubuntu/pool/main/e
[19:41] <iinamenew> davidcalle thanks for all the help
[19:42] <davidcalle> iinamenew, no problem.
[20:08] <FernandoMiguel> evening
[20:08] <iinamenew> exit
[22:56] <subman> Is there no longer a 'Users and Groups' gui application in 12.04?  How to add a user to a group in gui?
[23:06] <Ben64> I'm getting slow wifi speed on 12.04, about 150K/s throughput. On 10.04 I was getting closer to 1.5MB/s
[23:06] <Ben64> Is there anything I can do?