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FudgeAlanBell  thats expected response00:14
Fudgei will have to get someone to help me visually, i cant boot into precise currently :(00:14
AlanBell:(00:14
AlanBellI think I will do some screencasts and audio of navigating the desktop, it is rubbish right now00:15
Fudgedid you see my message about the middle click, i read back on one of your posts and adding the shift key opens a second instance00:16
AlanBelloh I did, but didn't try it yet00:17
AlanBellodd, not working for me00:18
AlanBellctrl+alt+tab to get to the panel, highlight the nautilus icon and shift return just moves focus to the nautilus window00:19
Fudgei thought it was in the launcher, alt f1 move to an app that is already running and shift enter00:20
Fudgeor maybe shift super #00:20
AlanBellshift+super+1 opens new instances of Nautilus00:21
Fudgeah excellent00:22
Fudgeim trying to figure out how to recreate nautilus dieing but cant00:22
Fudgesometimes, control R - refresh, after deleting something or just because00:22
Fudgesuper 1, nautilus doesnt get focus until tab/shift tab or alt tab/shift alt tab00:23
Fudgesame with gedit doesnt get focus with orca either, alt tab back to it gives focus00:23
AlanBellit seems to switch focus for me, but I think I will do some screencasts and things tomorrow00:29
AlanBellnight all o/00:29
Fudgecheers AlanBell00:32
FernandoTopGearnite00:46
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ActionParsniphey guys, under unity shell I am missing the clock. Is this a known issue (websearching now too, just wondered if it was a very known glitch)10:00
geserno clock at all?10:16
ActionParsnipgeser: just seems to have vanished, gotta have more of a play but just spotted it last night10:20
ActionParsnipcurious if the new 'no icons in systray' regime knocked it out10:20
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gnomefreakanyone know of a good app to comment/read facebook?14:13
bazhang!find facebook14:13
ubottuFound: plasma-widget-facebook, libjifty-plugin-authentication-facebook-perl, libwww-facebook-api-perl, pidgin-facebookchat, python-facebook14:13
bazhang!info python-facebook14:13
ubottupython-facebook (source: python-facebook): Python wrappers for the Facebook API. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.svn20100209-3 (oneiric), package size 26 kB, installed size 204 kB14:13
gnomefreakim looking for an easy/good app, not a list of them. im already looking at them in synaptic but im looking more for recommened14:15
bazhangface book and good. thats a tough one14:16
gnomefreak:)14:16
Ian_Cornegnomefreak: chromium-browser is pretty ok to read facebook14:18
Ian_Corne:p14:18
gnomefreakIan_Corne: so are all the others but im looking for an app that i can use from desktop not a browser14:19
Ian_Corne:D14:19
gnomefreakis facebook a blog by chance? or is it called something else?14:20
gnomefreakfor example is Drivel compatable with facebook14:22
Ian_Corneerrr14:23
gnomefreakit seems that gnomeblog and drivel does not list anything like tweeter and facebook./me needs a smoke14:25
gnomefreakit also seems that pidgins facebook app doesnt work, cant login14:40
arrihi,i'm installing grub2-efi booted 12.04 (no hybrid MBR) on a macbook, but read about possibly bricking the macbook.. (http://goo.gl/swfqe) - is this a no-go? at least for now?18:20
arrii'm having trouble getting all the facts around this issue aligned.. i read different things.18:21
arrijust don't want to end-up with a dead laptop (that's just out of warrenty)18:21
urlin2uare you trying to install 12.04?18:22
arriyes18:22
urlin2uuse a virtual.18:22
urlin2u12.04 is not stable and is not with your description a good idea18:23
arriyes, i've done that too.. ;) - but i was actually studdying the boot-process, and wrapping my head around the mbr/gpt/efi dance..18:24
arribut i guess this is less of an 12.04 issue - rather grub2/macbook-efi ?18:25
urlin2uarri, I have never seen a person on the ubuntu IRC channels use other then the 3rd party bootloader setups I seriously doubt you will get the information you need on them.18:26
arri3rd party?18:26
urlin2uarri, you trying to avaoid the bootcamp and what ever else, and you just saying your trying 12.04 your wasting your time and others as well.18:27
arriwell, i beg you pardon..18:28
arrifor reference, perhaps interesting: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting18:28
arrithanks for your help.18:28
arrifrom above url, http://pastie.org/3097274 is why i was asking..18:30
arrihappy new-year18:31
iinamehello18:32
iinamei have a problem with precise.  It was working fine, but I installed some .deb files with software center after which there is a problem with the menu bar on the left and top. Both the menus are not visible.  unity --reset finds plenty of errors and is hanging. Is Unity the display manager in 12.04?18:34
th^2hello all18:37
iinamehello18:37
th^2soo is the 12.04 going to be good?18:38
Ian_Corneyes18:38
Ian_Corneit will be awesome!18:38
th^2hmm18:38
th^2what are the changes?18:38
davidcalleIt will.18:38
Ian_CorneThey're throwing out the old, in with the new18:39
th^2compared to 11.1018:39
davidcalleNot a lot of visible changes right now (except in the gnome-control-center tabs). Unity changes will begin to land during january.18:40
davidcalleIt also seems faster and more responsive. (Thanks to newer graphic driver)18:41
iinameIan_Corne I am trying 12.04 on a tablet, working fine, but suddenly the menu bar disappeared tried unity --reset did not help18:41
th^2faster and more responsive is always good18:42
davidcalleiiname, the whole top panel?18:42
iinamethe top and the left panel18:42
th^2iiname, wich tablet?18:42
iinamedavidcalle the top and left panel18:42
iinameth^2 tycoon tvb0018:42
th^2iiname, whats that?18:43
davidcalleiiname, looks like a Unity crash... What about unity --replace ?18:43
iinamedavidcalle i tried to install .deb files to fix the touch screen issues (using software center) then it crashed18:43
iinamedavidcalle that is a good idea. will try right now ( tried unity --reset, it did not work)18:44
iinamedavidcalle paste.ubuntu.com/78817818:46
iinameth^2  It is a tablet pc from fic a taiwaneese company that makes good hardware18:50
iinamedavidcalle  running unity --replace the same errors appear :  errors like org.ayatana.bamf.view does not exist unable to load contents of svg/category-available18:51
iinamedavidcalle the strange thing is that the menu buttons ARE there, but invisible.  The invisible buttons respond to mouse click in their probabable locations18:53
davidcalleiiname, try sudo apt-get install unity, to see if your new debs have removed important packages.18:55
iinamedavidcalle yes,  in the meantime I located info about a package called myunity from canonical, it is there is the synoptic package list, installing it, will take a moment to try and see if myunity has any features to fix what is broken, or otherwise reinstall unity...  (from synaptic?)18:59
davidcalleiiname, myunity won't help you with this issue, it's just a tweak tool.19:00
davidcalleMaybe reinstalling unity could work. Yes, from Synaptic.19:00
iinamedavidcalle myunity installation is getting finished. will skip trials and follow your advice to reinstall unity19:00
iinamedavidcalle from package manager just unity or packages like unity 2d place, unity 2dpanel etc?19:01
davidcalleJust unity.19:02
iinamesynaptic installed unity and applied chages19:03
iinamebut there is no change visible on the desktop19:03
davidcalleOk, now try unity --replace19:03
iinamedavidcalle cannot call method SetActive Proxy /com/canonical/unity/lens ... can not fine /places/svg/ unable to locate theme engine19:10
iinamedavidcalle I think reinstalling all unity packages might help  some of the packages might fill in missing files - packages like unity-places and unity-lens could be answer to the above errors19:12
davidcalleiiname, these warnings are ok. It seems to be an incompatibility between the new packages you have installed and Compiz, which displays Unity on the screen. What unity-lens packages are you missing?19:13
davidcalleIn Synaptic I mean, are some unity-lens-* packages not installed?19:13
iinamethere was an error related to a file on the path com/canonical/unity/lens and another erorr on the path /places/svg -- this one specific to a missing file  so will now try installing all unity packages ( In synaptic the packages are shown installed, but terminal returns error on the path of places and lens19:15
davidcalleiiname, I've looked into your paste.ubuntu log and I have the same one if I unity --replace, so it's not the issue.19:16
davidcalleWhat debs did you install for your touchscreen issues?19:17
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iinamenewdavidcalle  the deb files were meant for another tablet pc in the category it was for eeepc to fix some issues related to the i915 display driver in my tablet19:29
iinamenewtrying to locate the same file19:29
davidcalleiinamenew, ok19:30
iinamenewdavidcalle eepc-acpi-workaround_0.1-ppa4_all.deb eeepc-brightness-workaround_1.0-ppa4_all.deb eepc-powersave_1.0-ppa_all.deb egalax-multitouch-driver-common_0.3.0-ppa1_all.deb eeepc-touchpad-twofingers_0.2-ppa2_all.deb19:37
iinamenewdavidcalle i doubleclicked the files, it launched software center and I clicked the install button, there was no visible activity, just that software center dimmed and then came back to life, one of the files (or all them) had to do with some modification to the grub19:38
davidcalleiinamenew, I have to go, but I'll see if I find something helpful for you :)19:40
iinamenewdavidcalle thanks  I localed the url it was ppa.launchpad.net/plippo/t101mt/ubuntu/pool/main/e19:41
iinamenewdavidcalle thanks for all the help19:41
davidcalleiinamenew, no problem.19:42
FernandoMiguelevening20:08
iinamenewexit20:08
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submanIs there no longer a 'Users and Groups' gui application in 12.04?  How to add a user to a group in gui?22:56
Ben64I'm getting slow wifi speed on 12.04, about 150K/s throughput. On 10.04 I was getting closer to 1.5MB/s23:06
Ben64Is there anything I can do?23:06

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