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thewrathhello all00:59
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CulTrying to set up NFS via https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo. getting errors I'm confused about could someone assist?12:52
bioterroryou could pastebin errors12:52
Culproblem with that is it's on a media server with terminal access only and I don't know how to do it via command line... pastbin that is12:53
hobgoblininstall pastebinit - then you can use that :)12:54
Culok, I'll give it a go, thks hobgoblin12:55
hobgoblinfor instance    sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit12:56
Culfdisk command gives address, what do I do with that?12:59
hobgoblinthat was just an example of how to use it - you'd paste the url of what you are trying to show people13:00
hobgoblinI've no idea of why you are here :p just got here13:01
Culahh, that makes sense... I'm trying to get assistance installing nfs and bioterror suggested I pastebin output for clarity13:01
hobgoblinright - well - run the command and then |pastebinit at the end should do :)13:02
Culand then copy the address here.. right?13:03
hobgoblinyep - then we can look at that :)13:03
Culright-o, one sec13:03
hobgoblintbh it's easier than mucking about with browsers and paste.ubuntu.com most of the time13:03
bioterroror you can copy & paste it to pastebin13:03
bioterroras you want it13:04
hobgoblinnot in a server environment13:04
bioterroryou talk to servers thru ssh13:04
bioterror:-)13:04
hobgoblinvoodoo13:05
Culhttp://pastebin.com/QePqi0mA13:05
Culhope that's right13:05
hobgoblinyep13:05
bioterroroh well13:05
bioterroryour configuration lacks something13:05
bioterrorhobgoblin is a guru with NFS13:05
bioterrorI'm more into samba13:05
hobgoblinlol13:05
hobgoblinI gave up fiddling with nfs the other day and used samba13:06
bioterrorhahaha13:06
Culhmmm, there's more output that didn't paste...13:06
hobgoblinCul: have you looked at the wiki page for it13:06
CulI followed the help.ubuntu page for it13:07
Culhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo13:07
hobgoblink - how far through it do you get - still trying to export stuff?13:08
Culcan I explain what I want to do and maybe you can tell me if this is the right way to go about it?13:08
hobgoblingo ahead13:08
Culgot to the export directories to local network and restart kernel server13:08
Culok, I've got xbmc on the other pc, and I want to be able to manipulate media files from my main pc13:09
Culi.e. transfer from mass storage and such13:10
hobgoblinI understand - but bioterror was joking when he said I was a nfs guru13:10
bioterrorCul, I use samba13:10
Culthat's ok, you're still better at it than I am :)13:11
bioterrorit's 10 times easier and prosentually as fast as nfs13:11
Culok then do I need to undo what i have already done then?13:11
hobgoblincomment out the change you made to /etc/export13:11
hobgoblinthen sudo exportfs -ra again13:12
Culok, pretty much same output13:13
hobgoblinshould stop it trying to export it - then I'd undo the installs - but you might find this easier to follow than the wiki - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24988913:13
hobgoblinwhich would suggest the exports file was wrong :)13:13
hobgoblingtg13:14
Cultc13:14
Culwhat about undoing changes to /etc/default/nfs-kernel-server, /etc/default/nfs-common and /etc/exports. or will that undo when I undo the installs?13:16
hobgoblinshould be ok to apt-get purge them13:20
MrChrisDruifAhh, that is something I'd like to set up on my server ^_^13:21
Culpurging the kernel server won't break my xbmc will it?13:24
Culthe nfs kernel server that is13:24
bioterrorxbmc has nothing to do with NFS13:25
bioterrorexcept it can read the mounts13:25
Culok, just wanted to make sure... I'm at the user lever where i know just enough to be dangerous :)13:26
bioterrorthen we have to remove sudo from you! ;)13:27
Culok, I gtg. I'll run through the other tut later and be back when I botch things up! ;)13:28
Culsudo is my nemesis13:28
Cultc all see ya later13:28
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MrChrisDruifbioterror; +113:28
thewrathhello all16:55
thewratha none Ubuntu question16:55
thewrathis there any good free web based requirement management software that you would recommend?16:55
MrChrisDruifRequirement management software? What do you mean thewrath ? Something like apt?16:57
thewrathMrChrisDruif: so i can track requirements16:58
MrChrisDruifRequirements or dependencies?17:01
thewrathrequirements17:01
thewraththe system must do this17:01
thewraththe sysem shoudl allow this17:01
thewrathat work we call these requirements17:01
MrChrisDruifAh, I think I understand what you mean, but I don't think that is available17:02
thewrathdarn17:03
MrChrisDruifBut I haven't scoured the web17:04
thewrathwhat about dependencies17:04
MrChrisDruifUbuntu has recently made the Software Center online available and on debian you can also search for packages and see there deps etc...17:06
thewrathwell i am creating a web app and i want to track it for my own project17:06
MrChrisDruifYou could use apt for retrieving all that info afaik17:07
thewrathmy app is a web application not something you install in ubuntu17:07
MrChrisDruifBut is that web app not run on a system like Ubuntu?17:09
thewrathit could17:09
thewrathbut  i would not install it through apt-get install17:09
MrChrisDruifNo, that's not what I mean17:11
MrChrisDruifEver heard of apt-cache search?17:12
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CulHello all, was here this morning trying to set up NFS between an xbmc and my everyday box, both running 10.04. a couple helpful chaps pointed me to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249889 so I did as instructed...19:20
Culnow i'm getting mount failed: RPC Error: Program not regisered19:21
stlsaintCul: sorry i am unaware of uses on xbmc19:22
holsteinsee if http://www.prasannatech.net/2008/07/nfs-troubleshooting-rpc-error-program.html is helpful Cul19:22
Culfrom what I understand the xbmc part is moot. I'm merely wanting to share the folders that store the media which is part of 10.0419:23
CulI was just giving that for info on what I was trying to accomplish19:23
holsteinCul: if i had to linux boxes, i would do ssh shares19:23
Culso I've got 3 ppl offering 3 points of advice (I am grateful for the help) I just want to set up the simplest sharing between, primarily these 2, as well as another 2 down the road. :)19:26
holsteinsure.. ssh is the arguably the simplest.. if you want to troubleshoot the error you are getting, try that link i gave, and let me know19:26
CulI'm halfway through the tut on nfs and it's not working.  Righto Holstein, I'll give it a look and be back in a few. thks19:27
Culholstein: the link talks about the 'dfstab' can I assume that that is the solaris equiv of my fstab or am I going to edit the wrong file19:37
holsteinCul: not sure.. its more of a starting point..19:37
Culahh, I see19:38
holsteini exclusively do ssh, since i can make windows share to it, and its literally as easy as install openssh server, and use19:38
Culya know.. that sounds like a winner to me.. purge out nfs kernel and maybe you can hold my hand through ssh :)19:40
holsteinCul: sure, but theres no need.. let me get the wiki link and you can just try it real quick...19:41
CulI like your optimism..19:41
holsteinfor example... i install to a machine with the IP address 192.168.0.10... i run sudo apt-get install openssh-server on that machine.. and i run on the client machine "ssh 192.168.0.10"... assuming the user names are the same19:43
holsteinthere are options for mounting persistently or whatever19:43
holsteinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html19:43
Culno, they're not the same.. and thre is no client install for the ssh?19:43
holsteinCul: the clients are typically included already19:44
Culok19:44
holsteinyou can run "ssh username@IPaddress"19:44
holsteindepending on your network, you can use the hostname instead of IP19:44
holsteinCul: in gnome2, in ubuntu 10.04, there is a 'connect' menu item19:46
holsteinyou can use that to connect to ssh shares... ftp, whatever19:46
holsteini like the gigolo package too19:46
kristian-aalborganyone care to look at a wireshark log?19:46
kristian-aalborghttp://kristian.users.anapnea.net/wslog2.txt19:47
Culok, I got connection refused... apparently I need to open a port on my router?19:47
holsteinkristian-aalborg: o/ ...ill look.. not sure what ill make of it19:47
holsteinCul: ?19:47
kristian-aalborgholstein, TY... it's rather big FYI19:47
holsteini didnt realize this was over the internet... that'll make all sharing more 'complex'19:47
Culssh 192.168.1.9 port 22 connection refused19:47
Culno, it should be lan19:48
holsteinCul: if you didnt install any firewalls, it should just work19:48
holsteinno need to fool with the router19:48
Culok then what's my damage here then?19:48
holsteinCul: run this on the server machine sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart19:49
holsteinthen run... ssh localhost19:49
holsteinon the server19:49
holsteinsee if you 'get in'19:49
Culhold on.. I got my lan ip's switched19:49
Culone sec19:49
holsteinyup... assuming the server is running, and you have the IP's correct, and the usernames and passwords... it'll just work19:50
Culahh, now I get authenticity of host can't be established... rsa key fingerprint.... are you sure you wanna connect? y/n19:50
holsteinsay yes19:51
holsteinyou can trust yourself ;)19:51
Culhehe, not always19:51
Culnow it's asking for my user from this box@ip password..  this user is not on the other box.. is that an issue or no?19:52
Culapparently it is... it closed my connection19:52
holsteinCul: you'll need the user name and passwork on the server19:53
holsteinsay, the user is user, and the pass is pass on the server... you are at the client19:53
holsteinssh user@ipaddy19:53
holsteinthen, you'll be prompted for the password of that user on the server19:53
Culhmmm, making more and more sense as we go... lemme shoot again.19:54
Culok, great.. i'm in.. unfortunately (nothing against you, that was brilliant) how do I do it graphically... I'm not quite uber enough on terminal yet to do all the file transferring I need to do.. :)19:56
Culyou said there was a connect somethingorother from maybe the filemanager?19:56
holsteinCul: i like gigolo19:58
holsteinbut in 10.04, theres a menu item19:58
holstein'connect to server'19:58
holsteinCul: under 'places'19:59
Culright, I'm all over it like a cheap rug..19:59
holsteinselect ssh, and put in your particulars, and you'll see it mount19:59
Culsweet, so now it's all drag and drop from here right? thanks a bunh19:59
Culbunch19:59
holsteinyou can explore making that persistent, though i havent needed to19:59
Culseems easy enough just to mount20:00
holsteinCul: yup... its too easy for me to bother with samba or anything else anymore20:00
holsteinand the security benifits...20:00
Culto listen to the help on ubuntu site, nfs is supposed to be that easy too.. and samba and... blah, that was a piece of cake20:01
Culexactly what i needed. thanks again20:01
holsteinCul: i can only speak from experience.. if i were to take a fork in the eye, or set up samba.... hmmm...20:02
Culso just real quick, how does this work to ssh to window.. I will have the occasional windows brick to share to from..?20:02
holsteini use http://www.swish-sftp.org/20:03
Culsweet, I'll check it out... .gtg for now20:04
holsteinCul: enjoy!20:06
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AlexForce22Hello good afternoon every one..21:43
AlexForce22Am tryin to see if i can get some advance knowledge about Apache server, anyone can guide me in the right direction21:44
holsteinAlexForce22: i mean, other than pointing you to a wiki or manpage, you'd need to elaborate as to what you need/want21:46
AlexForce22Ok, I am interested in learning about Apache server21:47
AlexForce22am interested in developing a business Idea,21:47
AlexForce22and I took my time in learning FOSS technologies over the years, now am interested in going to the Server side, ie. Advanced...21:48
holsteini used to run http://www.turnkeylinux.org/ instances in Vbox, or from live CD's to test/learn21:49
holsteinthere are all kinds of drop in wordpress, ruby.. whatever21:49
holsteinjust LAMP21:49
AlexForce22Well am for LAMP21:49
AlexForce22thats wat i study..21:50
AlexForce22what am interested in is: 1. Optimisation for APACHE. 2. Documentation about apapche on a large scale, ideas, tools, 3. Even hardware preference for large scale is an asset21:51
holsteinmaybe they have a channel.. you can try #ubuntu-server21:53
holsteini have heard there is better than apache for large scale.... but i dont remember what the alternatives were21:54
holsteinwhat they were called rather... i heard about them on the techsnap podcast if memory serves21:55
AlexForce22ok22:08
AlexForce22so the name of the site is techsnap22:09
holsteinAlexForce22: the site i linked is called turnkey22:12
holsteinthe podcast i mentioned is called techsnap22:13
AlexForce22ok22:13
holsteinhttp://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/show/techsnap/22:13
holsteinbut, you can probably find information just seaching for apache alternatives and asking about them22:14
holsteinthough, it is still a standard, so learning about it wont hurt22:14
AlexForce22ok22:14
AlexForce22thanks22:14
thewrathhello all23:43
benonsoftwareHi thewrath23:45
thewrathhwo r u23:45
benonsoftwareFine thanks23:46
benonsoftwareYourself?23:46
benonsoftwarebtw the offtopic channel is in #ubuntu-beginners-team23:46
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