[00:59] <thewrath> hello all
[12:52] <Cul> Trying to set up NFS via https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo. getting errors I'm confused about could someone assist?
[12:52] <bioterror> you could pastebin errors
[12:53] <Cul> problem with that is it's on a media server with terminal access only and I don't know how to do it via command line... pastbin that is
[12:54] <hobgoblin> install pastebinit - then you can use that :)
[12:55] <Cul> ok, I'll give it a go, thks hobgoblin
[12:56] <hobgoblin> for instance    sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit
[12:59] <Cul> fdisk command gives address, what do I do with that?
[13:00] <hobgoblin> that was just an example of how to use it - you'd paste the url of what you are trying to show people
[13:01] <hobgoblin> I've no idea of why you are here :p just got here
[13:01] <Cul> ahh, that makes sense... I'm trying to get assistance installing nfs and bioterror suggested I pastebin output for clarity
[13:02] <hobgoblin> right - well - run the command and then |pastebinit at the end should do :)
[13:03] <Cul> and then copy the address here.. right?
[13:03] <hobgoblin> yep - then we can look at that :)
[13:03] <Cul> right-o, one sec
[13:03] <hobgoblin> tbh it's easier than mucking about with browsers and paste.ubuntu.com most of the time
[13:03] <bioterror> or you can copy & paste it to pastebin
[13:04] <bioterror> as you want it
[13:04] <hobgoblin> not in a server environment
[13:04] <bioterror> you talk to servers thru ssh
[13:04] <bioterror> :-)
[13:05] <hobgoblin> voodoo
[13:05] <Cul> http://pastebin.com/QePqi0mA
[13:05] <Cul> hope that's right
[13:05] <hobgoblin> yep
[13:05] <bioterror> oh well
[13:05] <bioterror> your configuration lacks something
[13:05] <bioterror> hobgoblin is a guru with NFS
[13:05] <bioterror> I'm more into samba
[13:05] <hobgoblin> lol
[13:06] <hobgoblin> I gave up fiddling with nfs the other day and used samba
[13:06] <bioterror> hahaha
[13:06] <Cul> hmmm, there's more output that didn't paste...
[13:06] <hobgoblin> Cul: have you looked at the wiki page for it
[13:07] <Cul> I followed the help.ubuntu page for it
[13:07] <Cul> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[13:08] <hobgoblin> k - how far through it do you get - still trying to export stuff?
[13:08] <Cul> can I explain what I want to do and maybe you can tell me if this is the right way to go about it?
[13:08] <hobgoblin> go ahead
[13:08] <Cul> got to the export directories to local network and restart kernel server
[13:09] <Cul> ok, I've got xbmc on the other pc, and I want to be able to manipulate media files from my main pc
[13:10] <Cul> i.e. transfer from mass storage and such
[13:10] <hobgoblin> I understand - but bioterror was joking when he said I was a nfs guru
[13:10] <bioterror> Cul, I use samba
[13:11] <Cul> that's ok, you're still better at it than I am :)
[13:11] <bioterror> it's 10 times easier and prosentually as fast as nfs
[13:11] <Cul> ok then do I need to undo what i have already done then?
[13:11] <hobgoblin> comment out the change you made to /etc/export
[13:12] <hobgoblin> then sudo exportfs -ra again
[13:13] <Cul> ok, pretty much same output
[13:13] <hobgoblin> should stop it trying to export it - then I'd undo the installs - but you might find this easier to follow than the wiki - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249889
[13:13] <hobgoblin> which would suggest the exports file was wrong :)
[13:14] <hobgoblin> gtg
[13:14] <Cul> tc
[13:16] <Cul> what about undoing changes to /etc/default/nfs-kernel-server, /etc/default/nfs-common and /etc/exports. or will that undo when I undo the installs?
[13:20] <hobgoblin> should be ok to apt-get purge them
[13:21] <MrChrisDruif> Ahh, that is something I'd like to set up on my server ^_^
[13:24] <Cul> purging the kernel server won't break my xbmc will it?
[13:24] <Cul> the nfs kernel server that is
[13:25] <bioterror> xbmc has nothing to do with NFS
[13:25] <bioterror> except it can read the mounts
[13:26] <Cul> ok, just wanted to make sure... I'm at the user lever where i know just enough to be dangerous :)
[13:27] <bioterror> then we have to remove sudo from you! ;)
[13:28] <Cul> ok, I gtg. I'll run through the other tut later and be back when I botch things up! ;)
[13:28] <Cul> sudo is my nemesis
[13:28] <Cul> tc all see ya later
[13:28] <MrChrisDruif> bioterror; +1
[16:55] <thewrath> hello all
[16:55] <thewrath> a none Ubuntu question
[16:55] <thewrath> is there any good free web based requirement management software that you would recommend?
[16:57] <MrChrisDruif> Requirement management software? What do you mean thewrath ? Something like apt?
[16:58] <thewrath> MrChrisDruif: so i can track requirements
[17:01] <MrChrisDruif> Requirements or dependencies?
[17:01] <thewrath> requirements
[17:01] <thewrath> the system must do this
[17:01] <thewrath> the sysem shoudl allow this
[17:01] <thewrath> at work we call these requirements
[17:02] <MrChrisDruif> Ah, I think I understand what you mean, but I don't think that is available
[17:03] <thewrath> darn
[17:04] <MrChrisDruif> But I haven't scoured the web
[17:04] <thewrath> what about dependencies
[17:06] <MrChrisDruif> Ubuntu has recently made the Software Center online available and on debian you can also search for packages and see there deps etc...
[17:06] <thewrath> well i am creating a web app and i want to track it for my own project
[17:07] <MrChrisDruif> You could use apt for retrieving all that info afaik
[17:07] <thewrath> my app is a web application not something you install in ubuntu
[17:09] <MrChrisDruif> But is that web app not run on a system like Ubuntu?
[17:09] <thewrath> it could
[17:09] <thewrath> but  i would not install it through apt-get install
[17:11] <MrChrisDruif> No, that's not what I mean
[17:12] <MrChrisDruif> Ever heard of apt-cache search?
[19:20] <Cul> Hello all, was here this morning trying to set up NFS between an xbmc and my everyday box, both running 10.04. a couple helpful chaps pointed me to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249889 so I did as instructed...
[19:21] <Cul> now i'm getting mount failed: RPC Error: Program not regisered
[19:22] <stlsaint> Cul: sorry i am unaware of uses on xbmc
[19:22] <holstein> see if http://www.prasannatech.net/2008/07/nfs-troubleshooting-rpc-error-program.html is helpful Cul
[19:23] <Cul> from what I understand the xbmc part is moot. I'm merely wanting to share the folders that store the media which is part of 10.04
[19:23] <Cul> I was just giving that for info on what I was trying to accomplish
[19:23] <holstein> Cul: if i had to linux boxes, i would do ssh shares
[19:26] <Cul> so I've got 3 ppl offering 3 points of advice (I am grateful for the help) I just want to set up the simplest sharing between, primarily these 2, as well as another 2 down the road. :)
[19:26] <holstein> sure.. ssh is the arguably the simplest.. if you want to troubleshoot the error you are getting, try that link i gave, and let me know
[19:27] <Cul> I'm halfway through the tut on nfs and it's not working.  Righto Holstein, I'll give it a look and be back in a few. thks
[19:37] <Cul> holstein: the link talks about the 'dfstab' can I assume that that is the solaris equiv of my fstab or am I going to edit the wrong file
[19:37] <holstein> Cul: not sure.. its more of a starting point..
[19:38] <Cul> ahh, I see
[19:38] <holstein> i exclusively do ssh, since i can make windows share to it, and its literally as easy as install openssh server, and use
[19:40] <Cul> ya know.. that sounds like a winner to me.. purge out nfs kernel and maybe you can hold my hand through ssh :)
[19:41] <holstein> Cul: sure, but theres no need.. let me get the wiki link and you can just try it real quick...
[19:41] <Cul> I like your optimism..
[19:43] <holstein> for example... i install to a machine with the IP address 192.168.0.10... i run sudo apt-get install openssh-server on that machine.. and i run on the client machine "ssh 192.168.0.10"... assuming the user names are the same
[19:43] <holstein> there are options for mounting persistently or whatever
[19:43] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html
[19:43] <Cul> no, they're not the same.. and thre is no client install for the ssh?
[19:44] <holstein> Cul: the clients are typically included already
[19:44] <Cul> ok
[19:44] <holstein> you can run "ssh username@IPaddress"
[19:44] <holstein> depending on your network, you can use the hostname instead of IP
[19:46] <holstein> Cul: in gnome2, in ubuntu 10.04, there is a 'connect' menu item
[19:46] <holstein> you can use that to connect to ssh shares... ftp, whatever
[19:46] <holstein> i like the gigolo package too
[19:46] <kristian-aalborg> anyone care to look at a wireshark log?
[19:47] <kristian-aalborg> http://kristian.users.anapnea.net/wslog2.txt
[19:47] <Cul> ok, I got connection refused... apparently I need to open a port on my router?
[19:47] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: o/ ...ill look.. not sure what ill make of it
[19:47] <holstein> Cul: ?
[19:47] <kristian-aalborg> holstein, TY... it's rather big FYI
[19:47] <holstein> i didnt realize this was over the internet... that'll make all sharing more 'complex'
[19:47] <Cul> ssh 192.168.1.9 port 22 connection refused
[19:48] <Cul> no, it should be lan
[19:48] <holstein> Cul: if you didnt install any firewalls, it should just work
[19:48] <holstein> no need to fool with the router
[19:48] <Cul> ok then what's my damage here then?
[19:49] <holstein> Cul: run this on the server machine sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[19:49] <holstein> then run... ssh localhost
[19:49] <holstein> on the server
[19:49] <holstein> see if you 'get in'
[19:49] <Cul> hold on.. I got my lan ip's switched
[19:49] <Cul> one sec
[19:50] <holstein> yup... assuming the server is running, and you have the IP's correct, and the usernames and passwords... it'll just work
[19:50] <Cul> ahh, now I get authenticity of host can't be established... rsa key fingerprint.... are you sure you wanna connect? y/n
[19:51] <holstein> say yes
[19:51] <holstein> you can trust yourself ;)
[19:51] <Cul> hehe, not always
[19:52] <Cul> now it's asking for my user from this box@ip password..  this user is not on the other box.. is that an issue or no?
[19:52] <Cul> apparently it is... it closed my connection
[19:53] <holstein> Cul: you'll need the user name and passwork on the server
[19:53] <holstein> say, the user is user, and the pass is pass on the server... you are at the client
[19:53] <holstein> ssh user@ipaddy
[19:53] <holstein> then, you'll be prompted for the password of that user on the server
[19:54] <Cul> hmmm, making more and more sense as we go... lemme shoot again.
[19:56] <Cul> ok, great.. i'm in.. unfortunately (nothing against you, that was brilliant) how do I do it graphically... I'm not quite uber enough on terminal yet to do all the file transferring I need to do.. :)
[19:56] <Cul> you said there was a connect somethingorother from maybe the filemanager?
[19:58] <holstein> Cul: i like gigolo
[19:58] <holstein> but in 10.04, theres a menu item
[19:58] <holstein> 'connect to server'
[19:59] <holstein> Cul: under 'places'
[19:59] <Cul> right, I'm all over it like a cheap rug..
[19:59] <holstein> select ssh, and put in your particulars, and you'll see it mount
[19:59] <Cul> sweet, so now it's all drag and drop from here right? thanks a bunh
[19:59] <Cul> bunch
[19:59] <holstein> you can explore making that persistent, though i havent needed to
[20:00] <Cul> seems easy enough just to mount
[20:00] <holstein> Cul: yup... its too easy for me to bother with samba or anything else anymore
[20:00] <holstein> and the security benifits...
[20:01] <Cul> to listen to the help on ubuntu site, nfs is supposed to be that easy too.. and samba and... blah, that was a piece of cake
[20:01] <Cul> exactly what i needed. thanks again
[20:02] <holstein> Cul: i can only speak from experience.. if i were to take a fork in the eye, or set up samba.... hmmm...
[20:02] <Cul> so just real quick, how does this work to ssh to window.. I will have the occasional windows brick to share to from..?
[20:03] <holstein> i use http://www.swish-sftp.org/
[20:04] <Cul> sweet, I'll check it out... .gtg for now
[20:06] <holstein> Cul: enjoy!
[21:43] <AlexForce22> Hello good afternoon every one..
[21:44] <AlexForce22> Am tryin to see if i can get some advance knowledge about Apache server, anyone can guide me in the right direction
[21:46] <holstein> AlexForce22: i mean, other than pointing you to a wiki or manpage, you'd need to elaborate as to what you need/want
[21:47] <AlexForce22> Ok, I am interested in learning about Apache server
[21:47] <AlexForce22> am interested in developing a business Idea,
[21:48] <AlexForce22> and I took my time in learning FOSS technologies over the years, now am interested in going to the Server side, ie. Advanced...
[21:49] <holstein> i used to run http://www.turnkeylinux.org/ instances in Vbox, or from live CD's to test/learn
[21:49] <holstein> there are all kinds of drop in wordpress, ruby.. whatever
[21:49] <holstein> just LAMP
[21:49] <AlexForce22> Well am for LAMP
[21:50] <AlexForce22> thats wat i study..
[21:51] <AlexForce22> what am interested in is: 1. Optimisation for APACHE. 2. Documentation about apapche on a large scale, ideas, tools, 3. Even hardware preference for large scale is an asset
[21:53] <holstein> maybe they have a channel.. you can try #ubuntu-server
[21:54] <holstein> i have heard there is better than apache for large scale.... but i dont remember what the alternatives were
[21:55] <holstein> what they were called rather... i heard about them on the techsnap podcast if memory serves
[22:08] <AlexForce22> ok
[22:09] <AlexForce22> so the name of the site is techsnap
[22:12] <holstein> AlexForce22: the site i linked is called turnkey
[22:13] <holstein> the podcast i mentioned is called techsnap
[22:13] <AlexForce22> ok
[22:13] <holstein> http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/show/techsnap/
[22:14] <holstein> but, you can probably find information just seaching for apache alternatives and asking about them
[22:14] <holstein> though, it is still a standard, so learning about it wont hurt
[22:14] <AlexForce22> ok
[22:14] <AlexForce22> thanks
[23:43] <thewrath> hello all
[23:45] <benonsoftware> Hi thewrath
[23:45] <thewrath> hwo r u
[23:46] <benonsoftware> Fine thanks
[23:46] <benonsoftware> Yourself?
[23:46] <benonsoftware> btw the offtopic channel is in #ubuntu-beginners-team