| funkyHat | I think arguments are ok in offtopic channels, as long as they are civil | 00:12 |
|---|---|---|
| funkyHat | Oh he said support channels | 00:12 |
| thething | Hey guys, does anyone know a good alternative for manycam? | 02:56 |
| CarlFK | thething: This channel is for operator/abuse questions | 02:57 |
| thething | ? | 02:57 |
| thething | oh sorry | 02:57 |
| CarlFK | see the /topic | 02:57 |
| CarlFK | no prob. | 02:57 |
| thething | I try to go to offtopic and i am redirected here... | 02:57 |
| CarlFK | were you banned? | 02:58 |
| thething | I don't think so | 02:58 |
| pangolin | yes you were | 02:58 |
| thething | Ah | 02:59 |
| pangolin | specifically because of this | 02:59 |
| pangolin | <interpol_> k dexter i have to go drink tigers blood el oh el oh em gee ifuckedyourmom.jpg | 02:59 |
| thething | lloooool | 02:59 |
| thething | Yeah, he is a fag. | 02:59 |
| thething | He is very rude, so I told him to fuck himself. | 03:00 |
| pangolin | so take a few days off | 03:00 |
| pangolin | please mind your language | 03:00 |
| thething | Any time I go into the room he just starts arguments with me. | 03:00 |
| pangolin | no need for the swearing | 03:00 |
| thething | Well, your fellow mod is not going to be spoken to about manners? | 03:00 |
| thething | Why should I show him respect if he is always being an ass? | 03:01 |
| pangolin | he isn't an op | 03:01 |
| thething | How did I get banned then? | 03:01 |
| pangolin | !guidelines | 03:01 |
| ubottu | The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines | 03:01 |
| pangolin | an op banned you. | 03:01 |
| thething | Did Dexter get banned? | 03:01 |
| pangolin | you hit an ran. that doesn't mean a ban can't be set | 03:01 |
| thething | No | 03:01 |
| thething | I had to go. | 03:01 |
| pangolin | why would he, he didn't break any rules. | 03:01 |
| thething | Otherwise I would have stayed. | 03:02 |
| thething | Yes he did, he was not respectable to others. | 03:02 |
| thething | Go to the logs | 03:02 |
| pangolin | this is about you anyhow not him | 03:02 |
| thething | He is consistantly rude to me. | 03:02 |
| thething | No, that response was to him. | 03:02 |
| thething | So it is completely about he and I. | 03:02 |
| pangolin | your actions are what you are responsible for. | 03:02 |
| thething | Correct | 03:02 |
| pangolin | and you got banned for your actions | 03:02 |
| thething | You are not holding him accountable for his actions. | 03:02 |
| pangolin | that isn't your concern | 03:03 |
| thething | Yes it is. | 03:03 |
| pangolin | no it isn't. | 03:03 |
| thething | Equal treatment. | 03:03 |
| CarlFK | we do the best we can. | 03:03 |
| thething | Obviously not. | 03:03 |
| pangolin | he doesn't swear in the channel. | 03:03 |
| thething | He is disrespectful. | 03:03 |
| thething | That is one of the rules. | 03:03 |
| pangolin | no he isn't. he doesn't like you but he was not disrespectful to you. | 03:04 |
| thething | Yes he was. | 03:04 |
| thething | Go back to the logs. | 03:04 |
| pangolin | no. | 03:04 |
| thething | Every time I speak he was rude. | 03:04 |
| pangolin | this is about you. | 03:04 |
| pangolin | not him. | 03:04 |
| thething | Pangolin stop trying to change the subject. | 03:04 |
| thething | lol | 03:04 |
| pangolin | lol | 03:04 |
| CarlFK | indeed. | 03:04 |
| thething | not workin, bro | 03:04 |
| pangolin | the subject is why you got banned | 03:04 |
| thething | The subject involved him. | 03:05 |
| pangolin | you got banned because of the language you used. | 03:05 |
| pangolin | YOU used foul language. the reason why you did is irrelevant. | 03:05 |
| thething | It was a response to his behavior. Obviously it was offensive to me, I was just a user in the room. What puts him above me? | 03:05 |
| thething | So as long as I don't swear I can treat others with disrespect? | 03:05 |
| thething | I | 03:05 |
| thething | I'll remember that. | 03:05 |
| CarlFK | the ops try to keep the channel friendly. it is not a science. | 03:07 |
| thething | Friendly like how Dexter was friendly to me? | 03:07 |
| CarlFK | we use the CoC as guidlines and have to make judgement calls | 03:07 |
| thething | You are right, you don't treat it like a science. If you did it would be run better. | 03:07 |
| thething | Cause and effect. You can't have a reaction without an action. | 03:08 |
| thething | To stop the cause of reaction you need to stop the cause. | 03:08 |
| CarlFK | we are all volunteers. | 03:08 |
| thething | What does that have to do with anything? | 03:08 |
| CarlFK | if you don't understand, we are done. | 03:09 |
| thething | No I do understand | 03:09 |
| thething | You are just not wanting to discuss this. | 03:09 |
| thething | Very unprofessional. | 03:09 |
| CarlFK | I completely understand why you were banned. | 03:10 |
| thething | I am keeping logs of this fyi. To post on a few friends blogs about how ubuntu has gone in the toilet. | 03:10 |
| thething | CarlFK: You understand yet you fail to act appropriately. | 03:10 |
| CarlFK | right now I am only concerned with you being banned. | 03:11 |
| thething | Instead of being concerned about the real issue? Yes, I can see that. | 03:12 |
| CarlFK | you are, I see no reason to lift it. | 03:12 |
| thething | That's fine. I am sure you will like to wield what little power you have. Almighty mod of ubuntu. | 03:12 |
| thething | I am glad we have white-knights like yourself to make sure the internet is a safe playground. | 03:13 |
| thething | Also I am going to be posting the logs and explanation of all of this throughout the ubuntu forums. | 03:13 |
| thething | Very very sad when volunteers act this way. | 03:13 |
| thething | I have volunteered for many projects like this and never behaved in such an unprofessional manner. | 03:14 |
| thething | I am just hoping that everyone will be able to see what kind of people are running the ubuntu irc rooms now. | 03:14 |
| thething | So lets go back to the issue. | 03:15 |
| thething | Because you have yet to actually discuss it with me, rather than just trying to shut me down. | 03:15 |
| thething | Unless you would prefer to be silent. | 03:15 |
| thething | I would understand why, since you don't want these logs shown everywhere. | 03:15 |
| thething | CarlFK: so can we continue the discussion or not? | 03:16 |
| pangolin | !logs | 03:16 |
| ubottu | Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too; for older LoCo channel logs, see http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ | 03:16 |
| CarlFK | I have not seen anything to make me want to lift your ban. | 03:17 |
| thething | CarlFK: So you want me to bow down rather than discuss the issue? | 03:17 |
| CarlFK | I believe you know why you were banned. | 03:18 |
| thething | Because of mod abuse correct? | 03:18 |
| thething | Because you have failed to actually explain why. | 03:18 |
| CarlFK | no. | 03:18 |
| thething | So tell me, with both parties involved. | 03:19 |
| thething | How is my ban justified without dexter's being justified as well? | 03:19 |
| CarlFK | improper language | 03:19 |
| thething | And improper behavior is unacceptable correct? | 03:19 |
| CarlFK | dexters behavior does not change the rules you are asked to follow | 03:20 |
| thething | You are avoiding the question. | 03:20 |
| thething | Was his behavior inapropriate yes or no? | 03:20 |
| CarlFK | I am not discussing other's behavior. | 03:20 |
| thething | So you are avoiding it. | 03:20 |
| thething | Well obviously you all think its ok since he was not banned. | 03:20 |
| thething | I am glad I have the pm's of him telling me to go f*ck my mother...you all never bothered to ask for why I said that to him. | 03:21 |
| thething | It is ok though, everything will be shown in the logs I release. | 03:21 |
| CarlFK | the logs are public. | 03:22 |
| thething | Not the private messages | 03:22 |
| thething | Like how he told me to go f*ck my mother...which you all never asked about. | 03:22 |
| pangolin | what people say in PM we can't control. | 03:22 |
| thething | But you would rather blindly ban people and not explain yourselves? | 03:23 |
| pangolin | what people say in the channel is our business and we take it serious. | 03:23 |
| thething | Hm...so you are saying it is ok for people to harass others through pm's (people that find one another in your channels) | 03:23 |
| thething | Alright, I understand now. | 03:23 |
| pangolin | no. I am saying that we can't control it. | 03:23 |
| thething | Yes, you can. | 03:24 |
| thething | You ban them. | 03:24 |
| thething | Which you failed to do. | 03:24 |
| CarlFK | your language was clearly against the rules, you were banned. | 03:24 |
| pangolin | but we didn't fail to ban you | 03:24 |
| thething | Now that sociopath is going to go around harassing whomever he pleases. | 03:24 |
| thething | With YOUR consent. | 03:24 |
| pangolin | pot/kettle | 03:24 |
| pangolin | We done here yet? | 03:24 |
| thething | Nah, I am going to just let these logs show everyone how disrespectul you all are. | 03:24 |
| pangolin | ok | 03:25 |
| pangolin | Have a good night. Please remember to /part. | 03:25 |
| thething | I'll also be contacting the ircops. | 03:25 |
| pangolin | !appeals | 03:25 |
| ubottu | If you disagree with a decision by an operator, please first pay #ubuntu-ops a visit. If you are still unhappy, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/AppealProcess for the steps you should take. If you feel the need to discuss the channel rules, please contact the ops on IRC or via the email address on the aforementioned page. | 03:25 |
| thething | No, I am not done here yet. | 03:25 |
| thething | Sorry. | 03:25 |
| thething | I am here to discuss the problem | 03:25 |
| pangolin | We are. | 03:25 |
| thething | Which you all are refusing to do. | 03:25 |
| thething | Thank you for proving my point. | 03:25 |
| mysteriousdarren | can I have some help in #ubuntu we have a troll problem | 07:56 |
| mysteriousdarren | ? | 07:56 |
| Flannel | mysteriousdarren: Thanks for the heads up. | 07:58 |
| mysteriousdarren | yes anytime | 07:59 |
| elky | anything else you need? | 08:07 |
| mysteriousdarren | sorry leaving forgot I left the tab open have a good night | 08:08 |
| elky | goodnight, and thanks again | 08:08 |
| bazhang | bantracker been wiped? | 08:49 |
| jussi | bazhang: no, just a new implementation where it doesnt show bans till you search methinks | 08:51 |
| jussi | its fast though :) | 08:51 |
| bazhang | jussi, yep very fast, just blank here though :) | 08:52 |
| jussi | bazhang: works for me - try searching for yourself in the operator field | 08:52 |
| jussi | bazhang: is it working? | 08:54 |
| bazhang | jussi, sure, just usually check to see recent activity by others; fairly clear on my own bans/quiets | 08:55 |
| jussi | bazhang: ahh, fair enough. please file a bug. | 08:55 |
| Myrtti | I was going to say you can have my bans that are active according to the bantracker, but aren't - but I then realised I was looking at the wrong channel | 09:09 |
| Myrtti | but yeah, the search results are inconsistent with the banlist | 09:14 |
| Myrtti | or I think it may be | 09:15 |
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| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from foleygermany) | 12:42 |
| ubottu | FloodBotK1 called the ops in #kubuntu-ops-monitor (Spammer appears to be abusive - 4.5) | 13:45 |
| ubottu | FloodBotK1 called the ops in #kubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from Spammer) | 13:46 |
| Tm_T | removed | 13:46 |
| bazhang | ucenik what a surprise | 13:47 |
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| bazhang | decades? guess ubuntu is older than I thought | 15:13 |
| mneptok | bazhang: maybe it's old enough to ask it to dinner and a movie? | 15:27 |
| bazhang | mneptok, hehe | 15:27 |
| h00k | what's that formula...age/2+7 or something? | 15:35 |
| AlanBell | http://xkcd.com/314/ | 15:36 |
| h00k | Yes. That. | 15:36 |
| h00k | Also, congrats, AlanBell. | 15:36 |
| bazhang | YES! | 15:36 |
| h00k | Haven't seen you since I got the emailz. | 15:36 |
| AlanBell | thanks h00k | 15:36 |
| mneptok | 30 is the youngest i could date with the ($AGE/2)+7 rule :/ | 15:47 |
| h00k | 18.5 | 15:48 |
| Tm_T | date? is that something eatable? | 15:52 |
| bazhang | I think you mean prune, in this case | 15:53 |
| oCean | !ping | 19:26 |
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| ubottu | another contentless ping... sigh... | 19:27 |
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| oCean | !afk > Cinober | 21:36 |
| pangolin | errrrrrrrrrrr damnit | 23:55 |
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