[00:00] LOL [00:00] autocorrect hates me [00:00] intestine [00:00] what are you using? android? iphone? [00:00] i live within 5 minute walking distance of a 24 hour tesco [00:00] iPod touch so yea iOS [00:00] jacobw: I think that's a scary percentage of the population who do [00:00] it's a 7 mile drive for me - there and back [00:00] iOS 5...! [00:01] eek non-free [00:01] * directhex runs away [00:01] 7 miles to a tesco? Where are you? The highlands? [00:01] i liked my iphone 3gs, then i treated myself to a galaxy note - and i've become a man [00:01] i need to start eating healthily again :| [00:01] directhex: lol :P [00:01] erm [00:01] stoke on trent =/ [00:01] directhex needs to start PAYING healthily again [00:02] i used to be vegetarian and do crossfit and boxing, now i eat toast and cheese and sometimes run up stairs [00:02] Supermanintights: Let me guess, they put all the Tescos in the other town centre? [00:02] you paid for that computer you're using now didn't you directhex? you did pay for it? DIDN'T YOU?!?! [00:02] there's 3 that are 24 hour hat are local - and all of them are much too far to walk, and probably not worth the drive unless it's important [00:02] jacobw: Wow, I don't think I've ever heard of anyone switch in that direction before [00:02] Android FTW!!! [00:03] galaxy note ftw [00:03] Supermanintights: ice cream sandwich FTW!!! [00:03] palnj: it magically appeared in my house, and my credit card magically had more on it, about 3 years ago [00:03] hmm... i don't know how to get ICS for my note [00:03] but when i do [00:03] note ICS ftw [00:03] my next phone is delayed at customs -_- [00:04] palnj: I'd agree with you if I wasn't currently swearing at my 1st attempt at Android JNI [00:04] lollerskates, JNI [00:04] jni? [00:04] palnj: Java Native Interface - calling C code from Java [00:04] JNI is the intentionally dreadful system java uses to allow you to call into C libraries from Java [00:04] penguin42: ah right of course... I knew that [00:05] real men just use C ofc [00:05] ;) [00:05] I actually did sorta know it was really shit [00:05] hamitron: Indeed, but that's difficult on Android [00:05] never used android tbh [00:05] :/ [00:05] directhex: what you getting? [00:05] keep getting tempted [00:05] * popey has two android tablets on his desk [00:05] ok, despite the attempts of you heathens to be unhealthy and eat cheesecake, i gave into temptation and went for weetabix [00:06] hamitron: you should, even if that means running down to the nearest CURRYS/PCWorld or Conet and mucking around with Hineycomb on a tablet of some sort [00:06] *honeycomb lol [00:06] the thing that puts me off any device running android, is how manufacturers seem to think I am willing to buy a new device every few years [00:06] how on earth does autocorrect recognise hineycomb as a word :s [00:07] Alan Pope, you are officially the greatest person I have ever known...over the Internet [00:07] I expect 10 years life [00:07] o_O [00:07] they're not mine [00:07] Supermanintights: weetabix [00:07] FTW!!!! [00:07] popey: oh...then I hate you for leading me on like that [00:08] i get to use them though ☺ [00:08] * palnj sons dramatically [00:08] Asus Transformer [00:08] *sobs [00:08] i just don't get tablets [00:08] I do ☺ [00:08] ants! [00:08] my note is big enough for me to do anything i need to - and people complain i have a laptop computer with me [00:08] errr, wrong window [00:08] I love laying in bed, watching a film or TV programme on ipad [00:08] ARRRGGHHHH!!!!! /me...hate...AUTOCORRECT!!!!!!!! [00:08] popey: I got > < close to buying the Dell Streak 7" that currys were selling off earlier in the week for £99 [00:08] a tablet just seems like a limited pc or something [00:08] haha [00:08] irc command fail [00:08] the dell streak is a hilarious failure of a device [00:08] penguin42 - don't get the note [00:08] isnt it AlanBell ? [00:09] popey: Why? [00:09] ☺ [00:09] penguin42, are they still? [00:09] hamitron: Seem to have stopped last night [00:09] its both a rubbish phone and a rubbish tablet at the same time [00:09] it is a phone of substantial proportions [00:09] popey: Why is it a rubbish tablet? [00:09] popey: n9 from work [00:09] bigger is better [00:09] ;) [00:09] fml [00:09] directhex: nice! [00:09] i've got an error burning [00:09] penguin42: too small [00:10] hamitron: in terms if tablets yes... [00:10] AlanBell: oh is that the ENORMO one TheOpenSourcerer had? [00:10] wondered why it was on 17% for a while [00:10] runs crustydroid [00:10] (the one which you mislaid yours of?) [00:10] christel: he has got a big one, yes [00:10] Rubik's Cube [00:10] yes, that is one way of putting it! :p [00:10] my phone sits on a desk, so I'd be happy with a tablet as a phone tbh palnj [00:10] you wouldn't. [00:10] * popey hugs his cisco 7940 [00:10] well, until Orange terminated my contract [00:10] :/ [00:10] Rubik's Cube [00:10] try holding 30 pages of a4 next to youe ear. [00:11] I like my Galaxy S2 [00:11] hamitron: blessing in disguise: free from orange! [00:11] directhex, I feel upset still, losing my number [00:11] directhex: so is that the last meego phone? [00:11] no warnings [00:11] :/ [00:11] but I think I would also like a phone that just does phoning and wifi tethering plus a tablet [00:11] erm guys [00:11] http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/20/errorda.jpg/ [00:11] popey: assuming you call it a meego phone, yes [00:11] ah [00:11] popey: To be honest I should have got it - at £99 it's worth it easily for a dual core A9; albeit without Neon [00:11] possibly a transformer prime [00:12] error buring ubuntu on take 3 [00:12] penguin42: i would imagine it would end up in a drawer after a very short time [00:12] even for 99 quid [00:12] Supermanintights: Consider how your not having a good day with CD burning - USB THUMB DRIVE! [00:12] popey: Yeh; I've got a lot of geek toys like that :-) [00:12] Supermanintights: ur dead ad fish in a net cast by really good fisherman [00:12] heh [00:13] me too [00:13] * hamitron would rather have meego, than android tbh [00:13] penguin42: got my Palm T|X out tonight ☺ [00:13] (a whole bunch of people I know all concluded they had an Indy that they had bought years ago and hadn't used for at least 5 years) [00:13] hamitron: at least it's real linux! [00:13] yeh :) [00:13] • hamitron: (n) to meego! [00:13] there is great irony [00:13] over android anyway [00:13] i have 2 usb thumdrives available [00:13] Supermanintights: in what? [00:13] Supermanintights: oh right :P [00:13] directhex, I could see it been fun trying to make a custom distro [00:13] 1 is 32gb with my work saved on, but in an osx filesystem [00:14] the other has a 500mb capacity [00:14] hamitron: http://www.merproject.org/ ? [00:14] nobody answered my question earlier :'( [00:14] palnj: no it shouldn't be purple, see a doctor [00:14] Supermanintights: so get the mini iso and put that on the 500Mb one [00:14] parition tables are uesful [00:14] huh? miniiso? [00:14] would anyone be interested in creating a brand new desktop environment that's completely fresh and innovative? [00:14] Supermanintights: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [00:14] directhex, I was thinking more a phone with bash as the "interface" ;) [00:15] 26 of your earth megabytes [00:15] hamitron: my Android phone lets me get a bash shell [00:15] * Supermanintights kisses and dry humps popey [00:15] but android is invaded with the evil of google [00:15] no homo [00:15] :/ [00:15] popey: wow that's tiny [00:15] palnj: hi me [00:16] palnj - girls say that to me all the time [00:16] Supermanintights: the baby iso might even burn without failing [00:16] directhex, what I need for this Mer? [00:16] * popey snuggles Supermanintights [00:16] Supermanintights: what are they in about? your ego?!? [00:16] i wish [00:16] lol jk I see why you mean [00:16] :( [00:17] *what [00:17] the 500mb thumbdrive has no casing [00:18] so it's just the mobo/chip and a usb head [00:18] why do people just sign in to IRC a then wait for something interesting to happen! [00:18] begging to be corrupted [00:18] uneetbootin right? [00:18] it means noone knows who's actively taking part in conversation [00:19] :) [00:19] stupid wireless fail [00:19] real men use wires [00:19] ;) [00:19] hamitron: Ethernet cable ft...actually.no [00:19] guys [00:20] modem jack FTW!!! [00:20] hooray dial up! [00:20] what distribution do i select for the minimal installation [00:20] on unetbootin [00:20] ? [00:20] iso [00:20] oh [00:20] * Supermanintights looks properly [00:20] oops [00:20] ignore [00:21] does mini.iso work with unetbootin? [00:21] not tried, since most my comps won't boot off usb [00:22] it better!!! [00:22] Supermanintights: hooray for minimal install then I guess [00:23] should do [00:24] hamitron: what'd day mean? my 11 year old Packard bell boots off USB [00:24] * what do you [00:24] my 15 year old Packard Bell won't even boot off cdrom [00:24] :D [00:25] but I don't run ubuntu on that [00:25] I know my K6-2 comp won't boot off USB [00:26] so tend to just use a cdrw [00:26] what do you run on the PB? [00:26] so my mums computer won't recognise my 500mb usb stick [00:26] jooookkkkeeeeessss [00:27] I multiboot, MSDOS, slackware 8.1 and slackware 11.0 [00:27] hamitron: Yeh my Dad has a P2-300-ish that has 10.04 on and it needs a CD to boot [00:27] penguin42, same sorta age, yeh [00:27] ok, sorry guys [00:27] i've had enough [00:27] screw ubuntu [00:27] ubuntu rocks [00:27] i'ma gonna find windows 3.11 instead [00:27] :/ [00:28] Go OS/2! [00:28] I'm seriously considering Minix [00:28] haha [00:28] hmm, thinking about it [00:28] would it be possible to run windows 3.11 still? [00:28] yes [00:29] popey: You odd person you.... [00:29] i used to have VMs for every DOS version, and every Windows version up to Win2K [00:29] * Supermanintights 's jaw drops [00:29] popey, now you are talking [00:29] :) [00:30] i collect all the original cd and licenses [00:30] just seems fun to "browse" :/ [00:30] popey: the Packard bell is the pc I need more ram for [00:30] bah, my Palm T|X wont connect to my wifi [00:30] thankfully Alan bell should be receiving an email from me soon [00:31] he kindly offered to give me some ram as well as an Ubuntu cd ;) thx a lot [00:31] hey, when i try to run screen i get "no more PTYs". anyone know what causes that/any fixes? :) [00:32] * Supermanintights whoops [00:32] i found another flash drive [00:33] I didn't know whoop was a verb [00:33] as in to "whoop" [00:33] verbing nouns weirds language [00:33] * Supermanintights glares [00:33] given the circumstances, i think a pass is allowed [00:34] but I think whoop is a perfectly cromulent verb [00:34] 5.5 hours, and so far i have windows installed and nothing else [00:34] wahey! Segfault! [00:34] back up daddy's usb pen [00:34] run unetbootin [00:34] cry when something ELSE goes wrong [00:35] AlanBell: I guess it is ie whooping cough [00:36] whooping cushion [00:36] a cushion that whoops [00:36] so suck it [00:36] :D [00:37] no no, that's a woopey cushion [00:38] it's a verb ok [00:38] :( [00:38] damned grammar police (nazis) [00:38] moving on... [00:39] my usb pen is still backing up [00:39] then i'll try it [00:39] penguin42: I though he flopped [00:39] should i try the standard file, not the minimal one as it'll fit on the usb? [00:39] what size usb stick is it? [00:39] 32gb? [00:40] Supermanintights: possibly of you want to [00:40] I'd use the full size ISO [00:40] cool [00:40] whoa 32 gb! [00:40] assuming you have MD5SUM checked it [00:40] (the ISO that is) [00:40] if you haven't then you're a silly sausage [00:40] I can fit the iso on 2gb [00:40] well done you palnj_ [00:40] popey: thank u, thank you very much [00:40] i have md5sum checked it [00:41] someone else kept moaning at me to do it [00:41] Supermanintights: good ;) [00:41] groovy [00:41] no usb drives found [00:41] fml [00:41] windows? [00:41] disk utility? [00:41] yes [00:41] windows [00:42] Supermanintights: lol fourth time alone you've said that [00:42] I count 10 [00:42] popey: I haven't been here too long [00:42] http://paste.ubuntu.com/787413/ [00:42] i'm becoming increasingly frustrated palnj_ - it'll increase soon [00:42] but FTW seems to be popularising itself too [00:42] LOL [00:43] aaaanyway [00:43] moving on from the discussion on how much life loves me - how do i fix this problem/ [00:43] popey: ahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!! [00:43] it's usb drive D:\ [00:44] formatted to fat32 [00:44] and unetbootin not finding it [00:45] heck it's taken me long enough - but I've finally got this thing to call a JNI function [00:45] i fixed it [00:47] don't all rush to congratulate me at once [00:49] see ya guys...tired :( [00:51] * popey goes to bed [00:51] once i have ubuntu installed [00:52] i'll go to bed also [00:52] maybe [00:52] i can foresee a late one i didn't want/need [00:52] * palnj is already in bed [00:53] it works [00:53] IT WORKS [00:53] who on earth suggested cd booting... [00:53] hehe [00:54] Supermanintights: I think you owe jacobw a cookie [00:54] ha [00:54] thanks jacobw :P [00:54] * Supermanintights gives jacobw his last cookie [00:55] Supermanintights: I'd be interested to know what brand of drive is in the machine you're installing on - especially if it's an NEC one [00:55] Supermanintights: lok finally you have prevailed!! [00:55] brand of drive? [00:55] cd/usb [00:55] nod [00:55] cd [00:55] oh [00:55] erm [00:56] i'll find out in a min [00:56] just trying to install dualbooting [00:56] hmm [00:57] i think my pc just froze [00:57] completely [00:57] working now, but not a good start [00:57] Supermanintights: I think you should do a good memtest on that machine [00:58] ^^ [00:58] right [00:58] i got windows installed on a partition [00:58] and then a lot of unformatted space [00:58] it's saying - "erase disk and install ubuntu" or "soething else" [00:58] I'd say something else [00:59] do i go for something else - i'm dualbooting, and having a 3rd partition for data [00:59] 'something else' lets you apply your own partiton scheme [00:59] the install partition thing doesn't seem to recognise that windows is already installed on a partition [01:00] it's showing: [01:01] "/dev/sda" underneath - "freespace" with 500107MB, and i can select "new partition table" "add" "change" "delete" or revert", windows 7 should be installed on a 50gb partition [01:02] you should do some of those things :) [01:02] Supermanintights: Does it not show another area labelled sda1 or the like ? [01:02] nope, that's everything [01:02] Supermanintights: Have you got a digi camera? [01:02] yeah [01:02] gimme a sec [01:04] uploading to picasa now [01:04] i'm going to kill Az for telling me this would be easy [01:04] that or steal one of his precious monitors [01:05] see ya guys then bye!!!!!! [01:05] Supermanintights: good luck with the install [01:05] see ya palnj - thanks for help :) [01:06] I would crack up if when the install finished it said f*** your life, you need to restart [01:06] :( [01:06] if it does [01:07] i'll take a screeny [01:08] penguin42 - https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/De42ANGZminYjIE7zLzV-URqb3foulvKg7aANN4977k?feat=directlink [01:09] Supermanintights: You're sure you didn't nuke windows right? [01:10] i don't know how [01:10] it was there [01:10] i press install [01:10] so far i've managed to click next, entered wifi password [01:10] and it's gone [01:11] should i restart, boot from hdd and see if it's still there? [01:12] I would [01:12] which is better - windows being there? or windows not being there? [01:13] that depends on your point of view [01:13] :P [01:13] windows is booting [01:14] ok, i'm in windows [01:15] anything you want me to take a photo of or something? i'm getting desperate now, i just want them both installed, then tomorrow i can install the rest of the stuff i need to [01:15] ok, I guess it's there [01:15] Supermanintights: Boot the stick again and go through each question with us [01:15] ok [01:16] sorry if it comes across as so tarded - it just really doesn't want to work for me tonight, as you can see [01:16] Supermanintights: Computers can be like that [01:17] ok [01:17] boot menu [01:17] usb [01:17] i now get [01:17] unetbootin with following options [01:17] fml [01:17] it's booted automatically :S [01:18] ok [01:18] (don't tell palnj or popey about the fml) [01:18] ok [01:18] * penguin42 wouldn't [01:19] "default" "help" "try ubuntu without installing" "install ubuntu" "check disc for defects" "test memory" "boot from first hard disk" "try ubuntu wihout installing" "install ubuntu" "checuk disks for defects" - yes the duplicates are showing on screen [01:20] install [01:20] first or second option to install [01:20] do the try [01:21] try ubuntu without installing/ [01:21] ok doing that one [01:21] loading now [01:21] ok i'm in [01:22] at the desktop [01:22] should i connect to wifi first? [01:22] ok, do me a favour, open a terminal and do cat /proc/partitions [01:22] sec [01:22] ok [01:23] done [01:23] what do you want to see? [01:23] take photo? [01:23] do you see sda lines ? [01:23] and do you see any for sda1 or 2 etc ? [01:23] loop0, sda, sda1, sda2, sdb, sdb1 [01:24] ok, that's good - that means it can see there are 2 partitions on sda at that point [01:24] now, run the installer [01:24] is sda windows? [01:25] ok so i selected english [01:25] ticked to install 3rd party software for flash, mp3 and other media [01:25] Supermanintights: sda is the whole disk, sda1 and 2 are windows [01:25] now i click continue - that ok? [01:25] ok [01:25] asking me to connect to wifi - can i do this? [01:25] yep [01:25] sec, temp froze again [01:26] doesn't sound good [01:26] think i pressed wrong button that time [01:26]