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sskalnikor Ctrl + Alt + F(1-6)00:00
aeon-ltdthe-master: just delete the file00:00
mccSo very soon, this game I wrote will work on Mac and Linux, but not Windows because I can't get the stupid thing to compile...00:00
sskalnikfolek < !de00:00
folekgood boy00:00
mccDon't suppose anyone knows if there's a way to force MinGW to produce MSVC compatible binaries?! :P00:00
lee17hey guys i have a 64 bit laptop but why does it say in the downloads section that 32 bit is "recommended"00:00
metaspikeaeon-ltd, you sure? maybe he should restart or terminate the process. running simulatneous apt- processes isnt' really a good idea.00:00
the-mastermetaspike: how do I terminate the process?00:01
metaspikethe-master, you could find it with htop00:01
aeon-ltdmetaspike: if there are no processes running there is no other option00:01
sskalniklee17:  32bit is a safe bet if you don't know what you have, and historically it has been somewhat more stable. 64 is totally fine these days though00:01
timaaarrreeedoes anyone know how to read the temporay kernel log file  during initramfs? can't mount to get /sbin/init (its' either the filesystem or hard drive)00:01
metaspikethe-master, the prudent option would be to reboot and see if it works then00:01
the-masterAeon-ltd: I killed a apt-dpkg earlier halfway through, that's why it's doing it...00:02
the-masterI'll try that, metaspike, tyvm... bbs00:02
lee17sskalnik: what's the difference?00:02
cordovalmeta00:02
metaspikeu might have to delete it afterall but just incase >_<00:02
cordovalit works00:02
cordovalman you rock00:02
ionsbrewaeon-ltd,  Dell inspiron, Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz 512 of ram inbuilt graphix card desk top,  i am running Ubuntu 11.10 fine but feel as I am a newb this may be a little untested and i need a stable version to learn on00:02
metaspikecordoval, *highfive*00:02
overcluckerthe-master: I would try rebooting the computer before deleting the lock file, just to be safe00:02
cordovalhighfive man00:03
cordovalnow back to work00:03
cordovalthanks a lot00:03
aeon-ltdionsbrew: yeah lubuntu or xubuntu would be fine, i just wouldn't run compiz or unity wayy too heavy00:03
mccAlso, couple more Ubuntu 11 config questions...00:03
ionsbrewok thank man00:04
sskalniklee17:  32bit works on x86 and x86-64; 64bit won't work on a 32biut machine00:04
mcc(1) SInce I moved to ubuntu 11, there's this weird thing where the menu bar is blank until I mouse over it (or press a modifier key for some reason. How do I make it not do that and just show the menu bar?00:04
lee17thank you sskalnik happy holidays00:05
sskalniklee17:  64bit may be faster, depending on what you do00:05
sskalniklee17:  No prob, have fun!00:05
escotttimaaarrreee, is dmesg in the initramfs?00:05
metaspikemcc graphical glitch? i suggest compiz tweaking, different video drivers or just a total upgrade / sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade00:05
mcci don't *think* it's a glitch, it looks super intentional00:06
mcclike the app title fades out to let the menus appear and stuff00:06
greylurkmcc: that's just the default in Unity these days.. Not a glitch.  I don't know if there's a way to change it.00:06
brophatwhere can I set up that email wigget on the right side of the top bar?00:06
brophatso that it pings my yahoo account00:07
mcchm. it seems like basically all of the defaults in 11 are pretty obnoxious, if there were a way to just get the 10.x desktop environment i'd probably go for it :|00:07
zacariasHi. When I download a java application from the internet and I try to open it, it tells me it is not marked as executable. What shall I do?00:07
theadminzacarias: Try to guess. Mark it as executable.00:07
overcluckerzacarias: chmod +x file.jar00:07
dr_willisor do a java -jar foo.jar00:08
mcci'm currently trying to get rid of the strange Lion-style scrollbars, I think I figured that out?but it requires restarting (!) so I can't test it yet00:08
theadminzacarias: To do so, open the file's properties and choose "Allow executing this file as program" in the Permissions tab00:08
dr_willismcc:  the webupd8 and omgubuntu blog sites have guides on tweaking unity.00:08
metaspikeget the source code and hack the stuffing out of it... or as dr_wills says. :000:09
mccwill write that down, thanks00:09
rhin0some reason clicking on bash prompt doesn't work --- anyone know how I get a command shell or what is the command for a command shell (bash)  -- I#ve messed it up00:09
dr_willismcc:  and the askubuntu.com site has a lot of lists of addons for unity to check out. new indicator applets, quicklists and other neat tricks.00:09
zacariastheadmin: that's what I tried to do first, but this command doesn't appear. I'm running Xubuntu, I don't know if it has something to do00:09
the-masterrestart did the trick, thanks fellas00:09
mccIs there a simple way to just remove the GUI altogether and go to vterms / headless, if I've already installed a GUI install?00:09
dr_willisrhin0:  alt-f2 run gnome-terminal00:09
lee17sskalnik: hey uh.. i was looking at the guide but i only have a flip cam that is sort of a usb storage, do you know if that is fine? do i have to empty it to work00:09
dr_willis!text | mcc00:09
ubottumcc: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode00:09
theadminzacarias: Okay, just chmod +x something.jar then00:10
rhin0ok thanks dr willis - what I was looking for00:10
mcccoool00:10
rhin0alt-f200:10
mccthanks dr_willis/all00:10
lee17sskalnik: for saving the iso i mean in a usb stick00:10
dr_willismcc:  my main ubuntu box is just that.. a desktop isntall i had to steal the monitor from. :)00:10
sskalniklee17:  Are you trying to use the flip cam as a USB installer? Sounds like a hack. Might work, but I would not bet on it.00:10
gnomesis anyone free for a quick question00:10
sskalnik!ask > gnomes00:10
ubottugnomes, please see my private message00:10
lee17sskalnik: yeah00:10
dr_willisgnomes:  jusyt ask it and see.00:10
greylurkIs there a way to install the proprietary nvidia drivers from the command line?00:12
theadmingreylurk: jockey-text --enable "your drivers name"00:12
theadmingreylurk: To find out the availalbe drivers, use "jockey-text -l"00:13
theadminBoth commands need sudo00:13
theadminI think00:13
zacariasoverclucker: thanks, it worked!00:13
greylurk@theadmin - thanks.00:13
gnomesI was deleting old ppa's under system sources in ubuntu 11.10. I think i might have deleted the standard or "main " canonical update source on accident. is there anyway to restore update managers software sources with out a full reinstall of the os?00:15
sskalnikI'm trying to test two serial connectors in minicom, but both terminals show the interface as 'offline'. I'm probably forgetting something basic here...00:15
sskalnikgnomes:  Just edit /etc/apt/sources.list00:15
dr_willissskalnik:  real serial port? or usb-serial things?00:15
gnomeswhat would default be for oneiric?00:16
sskalnikdr_willis:  It's a networked serial port, if that makes any sense. It's serial over Ethernet. I can connect to the device, but the ports are 'offline'00:16
* the-master shrugs "I guess it never hurts to have an install disk lying around anyway"00:16
dr_willissskalnik:  hmm.. beyond my experience.00:16
longcatis there a way to tell my dvdram drive to operate in CAV mode?  the spinning up and down is really slowing things down00:16
sskalnikdr_willis:  no prob, thanks for trying00:16
dr_willissskalnik: i got some old-skool serial termianls :)00:17
nodestoolhow do i know if i can upgrade my server if i am on LTS?00:17
gnomessskalnik - what would i be looking for under /etc/apt/sources ?00:18
greylurk@nodestool - what are you upgrading to?00:19
dr_willisgnomes:  normally pps'a re added one per file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/   while the main sources are in /etc/apt/sources.list00:19
Guest0589Why is Ubuntu always asking me to authenticate everything I do. Password prompts everywhere. Is this normal? Is there a way to get around this? I'm okay with authenticating some very important things sometimes00:19
dr_willisgnomes:  so what did you change exactly?00:19
dr_willisGuest0589:  'eveyrthing i do' is a bit vague....00:19
folekhello again00:20
greylurk@guest0589 - yes, that's normal.  It only asks you to auth if you're doing something that could damage the system or harm other users of the system.00:20
theadmingnomes: Here's a sources.list with all the official Ubuntu repositories, enable/disable as needed: https://pzt.me/8vqs00:20
dr_willisYou use the sudo users password for admin type tasks..00:20
Guest0589dr_willis: Not "everything I do". Just things like installing and running some applications00:20
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dr_willisGuest0589:  installing or other admin tasks would need the admin password..00:20
dr_willis'running some applications' - depeneds on the app00:20
Guest0589dr_willis: Is there a way to disable sudo prompts all the time when I'm installing stuff?00:21
gnomesi was deleting ppa's under other software that i no longer used. my freaking cat jumped up and sat on my keyboard, which deleted all of the ppa's under "other" this would be okay, but now i dont know if i need any under this tab00:21
dr_willisyou normally just have to enter it the first time to get the package manager started. and its either cached for a few min in bash, or just needed once from the gui tools00:21
eutheriamy touchpad is very 'slow' even if i increase it in the control panel it is still very slow00:22
folekwho have macbuntu?00:22
dr_willisgksudo synaptic, install whats needed...  shouldent ask except the firs time00:22
dr_willisfolek:  macbuntu is somthing you should most likely run away from.....00:22
dr_willisfolek:  unless they have done some serious work on that project it was rather.. well.. flakey last i looked into it.00:22
folekwho is in a LUG?00:23
dr_willisLinux User Group00:23
dr_willis!lug00:23
ubottuLug's are Linux User Groups. You can find your local group here: http://www.linux.org/groups/00:23
aeon-ltddr_willis: +1 macbuntu - looks a lot like a mac gui, works nothing like it00:24
aeon-ltd* +1 on not using macbuntu00:24
dr_willisand it can break things badly00:24
the-mastergrrr, now its hanging up on configuring ttf-mscorefonts-installer, its not doing anything...but displaying these terms and conditions...00:24
foleki am in HLUG in OWL germany www.lug-owl.de00:24
Guest0589dr_willis: What about things like password pop-ups everytime I want to install something in software center?00:25
escottthe-master, have you agreed to them?00:25
xanguathe-master: hit tab to get the accept button00:25
BlaDe^is ubuntu closest to debian 5 or 6 ?00:25
folek600:25
the-masterxangua: you rock... I feel like a moron now00:25
BlaDe^folek: can I install debian 6 stuff on ubuntu?00:25
BlaDe^(mysql)00:25
BlaDe^or do i need to compile it myself00:26
folekyes about the deb.paket00:26
projekt26is there a reason why firefox 9 has not been released for ubuntu yet?00:26
the-mastertab was probably the only key I HADN'T touched...00:26
aeon-ltdprojekt26: branding and documentation00:26
projekt26ok thanks00:26
folekthe software centre can deb-file installed now00:26
aeon-ltdprojekt26: on canonical/ubuntu's half00:26
aBoundprojekt26, You can install Firefox 9 through the PPA.00:27
gnomeseureka!!! who ever directed me to that ppa page rocks!! you saved me from a fun reinstall00:27
the-masteraBound, what's up broham?00:27
projekt26aBound: I know. I just dont feel confortable using a browser that does not come from the official source though :)00:27
aBoundprojekt26, Understood.00:28
aBoundthe-master, Howdy.00:28
aBoundGave 12.04 a run and just wasn't working out for me given the alpha. :P00:28
the-masteraBound: finally getting that python-glade2 install going...lol00:30
aBoundthe-master, How'd you figure it out?00:31
gnomesquick question as long as i am here, i recently  dual booted my friends hp laptop by using wubi. we soon uninstalled wubi because we relised that it limited your partition to 30gb.  i then partitioned using windows, then installed 11.10 ubuntu on that partition. after the install ubuntu works fine, but it says windows was corrupted!!! is this a known issue?00:31
aBoundgnomes, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide00:33
aBoundgnomes, Seems like a known problem with Wubi.00:33
the-masterand of course, even though the cd is in the cd drive, its still asking me to insert it00:34
aBoundthe-master, It'll be a while before Linux just works. :P lol00:34
setekhlet's hope I do this right.  I haven't used IRC in years.  hi :)  I've got a problem with installing Ubuntu 10.04LTS and all of the documentation I have read does not address the issue I am having.  is there anyone available to assist?00:35
the-masteroh snap... its asking me to run it in my OTHER CD rom drive, the one the motor is broken in...00:35
aBoundsetekh, What issues are you currently citing for Ubuntu 10.04 LTS?00:35
aBoundthe-master, Oh boy sounds like you're in for a long day.00:36
gastronomixical'lo00:37
* the-master gets out hammer and screwdriver "You're preaching to the choir, mein freund00:37
Flannelthe-master: Is this an Ubuntu CD that it's trying to use as a repository?00:37
sharew00:37
Flannel(backscroll isn't clear)00:37
shareWhy lsusb lists most hubs as 1.1 and only 2 as 2.0?00:37
wiredvampi am trying to get my webcam to work on skype00:37
shareI only have 2 usb 1.1 ports00:37
setekhaBound: we cannot get the wireless controller to work, wlan0 does populate info but isn't configured.  eth0 is broken (the actual physical plug connection malfunctions) so we cannot get updates via the network that way00:37
the-masterFlannel: Yes, I've been trying to install python-glade2 for two days, and it keeps asking me for the CD no matter what I do...00:37
Flannelthe-master: and you're connected to the internet (and don't really care about actually using the CD, just want it to stop asking you)?00:38
the-masterflannel: Well, I'd really like to install python-glade2 so I can use samba00:38
Flannelthe-master: This computer is connected to the internet? or are you actually trying to use the CD?00:39
the-masterFlannel: The computer is connected to the internet, but its still asking me for the CD00:39
Flannelthe-master: right, I understand.  You need to simply disable the CD as a software source.  We can do that by editing files, or using a GUI, which would you prefer?00:40
the-masterflannel: I'm kind of a newb, so whichever teaches me more00:40
Flannelthe-master: Alright.  We'll go ahead and edit files, because that's easier for me to show you what to do (because they keep moving/renaming the GUI).00:41
the-masterflannel: go for it... but I've gotta run out soon, so if you could just point me to a web page that I could look at later, that would be most helpful00:41
xanguathe-master: Flannel open Software Center - Edit - Sources, has never change00:41
KarmaTESTkhm00:43
Flannelxangua: Except for when that option didn't exist.00:43
xanguaFlannel: it does00:43
Flannelthe-master: If we run out of time, you can ask anyone in here to help you disable the CD repository from your sources.list.  Someone will know what that means.00:43
Flannelxangua: In past releases, it hasn't.  Like I said, it seems to move every few releases.00:44
xanguaFlannel: it does exist here in lucid and in oneric00:45
the-masterI think I actually may have figured it out with my bad self, flannel...00:45
Flannelxangua: There are more releases than just those two.  In the past it's been "software sources", "software properties", only accessible via Synaptic, etc, etc.00:45
Chief_Gcan we do netflix on latest ubuntu?00:46
the-masteruncheck that little box that says "cdrom with ubuntu 11.10 oneric ocelot" under the ubuntu software00:46
Flannelthe-master: Good.  If you opened up said GUI, and unchecked the CD repositories, that'll accomplish it.  (But that's harder to explain via text)00:46
Flannelthe-master: Yep, sounds about right.00:46
escottChief_G, no00:47
Chief_G:( any hope?00:47
Flannelthe-master: Now you should be able to update your software cache, and then install, and it won't ask for the CD anymore.00:47
overcluckerChief_G: it's up to netflix to start supporting linux00:47
escottChief_G, not likely. you can write to netflix, but the studios would make netflix pay so much for that right that netflix would balk00:48
xcyclistI am having a hard time configuring basic eruby on ubuntu with apache.  Anyone have any suggestions?  I got told by the apache guys that nobody does this anymore, but there are obviously eruby/erubis packages that install successfully on Ubuntu, so what gives?00:48
eggnogghow do I unzip a .gz file?00:49
the-masteralright kids, I'm out!00:49
the-masterpeace and love00:49
overcluckereggnogg: is it just .gz, or is it .tar.gz?00:49
eggnoggjust .gz00:49
xix4rritohow can i see the server error log?00:49
eggnoggi think i just did it with gunzip filename00:50
mcchm00:50
Guest0589 I removed my password from my user account because I found it really annoying to type it in for everything I wanted to install and do to my computer.00:50
Guest0589Now I can't authenticate anything. I go into my user account and it says "password none" and "automatic login on".00:50
somsipxix4rrito: what server? Apache?00:50
mccin ubuntu 11 just now, i pressed a key combination (not sure what) and a tiny text entry box witha n orange border appeared in the bottom right of the screen00:50
mcci'm not even sure that was ubuntu00:50
overcluckereggnogg: gunzip file.gz00:50
mccit could have been virtualbox00:50
mccany idea what that was00:50
FloodBot1mcc: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:50
Guest0589I'm able to log-in, just not install anything00:50
escottGuest0589, boot to single user rescue mode and reset your users password00:51
Guest0589escott: how do I do that?00:51
timaaarrreeeescott: no there is noting in /var on the ramdisk00:51
escottGuest0589, when you are booting hit "esc" to get the grub menu, and then pick the rescue or single option. then you will have a root prompt and you can type passwd username (replacing username with your username) when that is done "reboot"00:53
escotttimaaarrreee, don't think that was meant for me00:53
Guest0589escott: Thank you!00:54
timaaarrreeeescott: you asked me if dmesg was in the initramdisk00:54
escotttimaaarrreee, not the file. the binary, /bin/dmesg00:54
gastronomixicalCan't anyone help me with rdp?00:55
timaaarrreeeescott: ive never used the before. i thought you meant the 'messages' file00:56
reisiogastronomixical: done!00:56
gastronomixicalhm?00:57
wireladenhello00:58
reisiogastronomixical: I grant you help00:58
reisiowireladen: hi00:58
wireladenreisio, hello00:58
wireladenreisio, and thanks in advance00:58
wireladenpm?00:59
gastronomixicalreisio: okay... I'm trying to get ubuntu's rdp client to read Windows .rdp files, and it boots me out00:59
reisiowireladen: um, if you want00:59
reisiogastronomixical: which client?00:59
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phiil_errrr.... can i use ghost a laptop that runs ubuntu?01:01
arial_I have a question about syncing an iPod touch with ubuntu 10.04.  What packages are necessary for this?  My situation is that after install of 10.04, my iPod was recognized by the system but not acknowledged by Rhythmbox.01:01
Fudgehow can i tell oneiric to remember my rear mic setting instead of front01:01
reisiophiil_: hrmm?01:02
reisioarial_: what model iPod?01:03
arial_I have an 8GB iPod touch01:04
phiil_reisio: well when someone ghosts a computer i think that they competely copy the hard drive exactly to the other computer using a sata cable, is it possible to do that with a laptop when running ubuntu?01:05
reisiophiil_: yes01:05
reisiophiil_: you want to do it _to_ Ubuntu or _with_ Ubuntu?01:05
hihaatjeis this the proper place to look for some help with ubuntu?01:05
phiil_umm01:05
zulaxhihaatje, i believe so01:06
phiil_with ubuntu and to ubuntu between two computers01:06
hihaatjeokay01:06
phiil_two laptops to be exact01:06
reisiophiil_: yes, however01:06
reisiophiil_: the Ubuntu OS itself is mirrored in thousands of places, so there's little reason to back it up, or make an image of it01:06
Ra_anyone know how to take a .pl file and make a desktop icon work?01:06
Ra_i am new to ubuntu01:06
reisiophiil_: it's more sensible to use to rsync to backup /home/01:07
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phiil_oh yeah yeah that makes sense01:07
reisiofull image backups are more useful with operating systems like Windows, which are booby trapped to only work on their originally installed-to hardware01:07
phiil_didnt think of that, never used rsync before01:07
reisiolovely app, rsync01:07
reisiothough cp -a is frequently just as good01:07
phiil_heehe01:07
wireladenhotkey for opening terminal?01:07
reisioor tar -cvf home01.tar /home/ && cp home01.tar foo/01:08
reisiowireladen: CTRL+ALT+t01:08
Skummelctrl + alt + t wiredvamp01:08
wireladenthanks my gui is screwed01:08
wireladenmouse wont work01:08
phiil_ok so just use cp to backup /home and im good to go!!!01:08
reisiophiil_: basically01:08
reisiothough rsync is a little more elegant :)01:08
phiil_need a thumbdrive tho heeheehe01:08
phiil_yeah ill learn to use rsync01:08
Ra_desktop icon?01:08
darrenHello everyone01:08
wiredvampok? Skummel01:09
Skummelwrong tab01:09
reisiophiil_: it's basically just: rsync -av /home/ /mnt/some/other/place/home/01:09
darrenI'm using Ubuntu in Rackspace CloudServers. And, I'm wanting to see how well they are performing01:09
reisiophiil_: if it's interrupted, just re-run it, it'll skip things it's already copied01:09
milo_Hi there everybody.01:09
darrenAny tips?01:09
wireladenE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)01:09
wireladenE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?01:09
hihaatjeI have just installed ubuntu 11.10 using the wubi installer, and all of the installation went just fine, but once i boot into ubuntu my mouse will work incorrectly (clicks wont register) but it will move. i am unable to click anything on the programs menu, almost as if it has the wrong program in the foreground. when i mash some buttons, it works, but once i open another program the same thing applies. is this a common error?01:09
phiil_ok sounds goood and cool01:09
milo_Can anybody recommend a good tutorial video for how to open Tar.gz files?01:09
Skummelwireladen what are you doing?01:09
reisiohihaatje: how many buttons on your mouse?01:09
Ra_is there anyway to get arround password?01:10
reisiohihaatje: scrollwheels typically count as three (forward/back/down)01:10
hihaatje901:10
hihaatjeoh01:10
SkummelRa_ password where?01:10
hihaatjethen01:10
wireladenSkummel, trying to apt-get in non root user01:10
hihaatje1501:10
hihaatjelol01:10
reisiohihaatje: heh01:10
phiil_reisio: rsync cant make an iso image out  of an OS can it?01:10
reisiohihaatje: X may be confused as to which of your 15 buttons is left-click01:10
wireladenSkummel, something happened and my persistent is all krazy.01:10
reisiophiil_: that isn't its purpose, no01:10
Skummelwireladen sudo apt-get01:10
reisiophiil_: you still want an image?01:11
phiil_yeah01:11
reisiophiil_: why?01:11
hihaatjereisio: okay, but it will be hard to install proper drivers without the mouse working01:11
phiil_cos i want ubuntu to feel like windows01:11
reisiohihaatje: give this a go: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/X.Org/Mouse#using_xinput01:11
reisiohihaatje: or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto01:12
arial_How do you install programs without using the ubuntu software center?01:12
reisiophiil_: ...terrible? :p01:12
wireladen<my username> not in the sudoers folder01:12
reisioarial_: tediously01:12
reisioarial_: why do you ask01:12
supuerssudo apt-get install01:12
phiil_oh i now remember there being something that you boot from like a dvd with iso that makes an image or somehting for windows01:12
wireladenSkummel,  <my username> not in the sudoers file.01:12
phiil_maybe it will work for linux01:13
hihaatjeOkay, i will now. thank you for the help, is there any way i can open terminal using the keyboard?01:13
phiil_ghosting i mean01:13
neil__hi01:13
reisiophiil_: an image of a device is an image of a device, the software shouldn't care what data is on it01:13
phiil_lol ghosting linux01:13
phiil_hhh01:13
reisiophiil_: but you'll be wasting your time I promise you01:13
arial_Let me rephrase my question; What does the software center actually do with the packages it receives?01:13
reisioyou need only backup (via ordinary cp/rsync) your personal data, not the OS files01:13
reisioarial_: rephrase?01:13
xanguaarial_: installs them¿01:13
phiil_yeah ok01:14
arial_Sorry- does that simply mean placing the files in the appropriate repository in the file system?01:14
neil__i  have a webserver behind firewall, i have set a virtual host , i try to view the site from another comuter behind the firewall on my lan, and it can not find  it,  does anyone can direct me to a place to read about this to debug it ? tx01:14
xanguahihaatje: control+alt+t01:14
reisiothe reason it's useful to have image backups of Windows is because you have to pay for each copy of the OS files01:14
Skummelwireladen boot in recovery mode and add your user to the sudoer file01:14
reisioand the system is not portable to other hardware after installation01:14
reisioneither is the case with free Unixes01:15
phiil_ohhh i understand now01:15
reisioarial_: places precompiled binaries and other files where they belong in the filesystem, yes01:15
greylurkIt is sometimes useful to have a ghost image that you can use to install a pile of apps with the same configuration on a bunch of different machines (say, in enterprise workstation builds)01:16
reisioyes, sometimes :)01:16
wireladenSkummel, brb01:16
greylurkI don't know what the linux answer to that is, though I'd say build yourself a repo, and learn dpkg.01:16
greylurkOr puppet.01:17
arial_reisio_: thanks.  Can you tell me what packages (or where to find them) are necessary to sync an ipod touch with lucid?  I removed "libimobiledevice0" by mistake.01:17
xanguaarial_: to sync apple decives you need libimoviledevice01:17
reisioarial_: there's this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ipod%20touch01:17
arial_reisio_: thanks01:18
troulouliou_devhi i have installed ubnutu 11.10 on a dell xps m1530 wit a nvidia 8M family graphic card , first everything was running normally but after i installed the proprietary drivers , unity fails back to 2D mode and gnome-shell do not start01:18
ant0neocan anyone assist? I need to get and install an application/x-gzip decoder plugin01:18
troulouliou_devglxinfo report no problem01:18
milo_Hey there, could somebody walk me through a tar.gz installation?01:19
darrenHow do I monitor performance remotely?01:19
reisiomilo_: of what01:19
xangua!compile | milo_01:19
ubottumilo_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first). Also read !checkinstall01:19
reisiotroulouliou_dev: revert to non-proprietary drivers01:19
debugnetmilo_: from the command line do gunzip -cd [tar.gz file]|tar -x01:19
reisiotroulouliou_dev: or try a different version of proprietary drivers01:19
milo_have a wicd-1.6.2.tar.gz file in my download folder. Havn't been able to get stuff done.01:19
xanguamilo_: wicd is already on the repository01:20
troulouliou_devreisio, yeah i tried with th proposed 173 and the recomended 280 , still fail01:20
troulouliou_devreisio, if i remove thel then i will use mesa or nouveau ?01:20
debugnetmilo_: then do a cd to the newly created directory and then ./configure or ./config depending on which is in the directory then finally a make and make install assuming no errors01:20
reisiotroulouliou_dev: try running sudo nvidia-xconfig and restarting X01:20
reisiotroulouliou_dev: nouveau probably01:20
troulouliou_devreisio, did that too01:20
troulouliou_devok01:20
reisiomilo_: you want an older wicd?01:21
milo_gunzip-cd[tar.gzfile]:command not found01:21
milo_THere is a "bad password" message. I've read that installing the older version fixes the problem sometime.01:21
debugnetmilo_: you have to use the file name that you saved01:22
milo_I don't know enough to get the original working. I'm new to Linux and nothing makes anysense.01:22
supuershave no issue using irc chat on laptop on my tower however it asks me if this is an ssl connection any ideas?01:22
reisiosupuers: answer it?01:22
milo_People talk to me like I should know what they're talking about, but I'm not on here because I know what I'm doing.01:22
milo_So it can be confusing.01:22
reisiomilo_: wicd-1.7.0 is in the repos, I'm not sure why you want to manually install it, let alone an old version01:23
ant0neoat least they talk 2 U milo:01:23
debugnetmilo_: sorry about that, let me start from the beginning, do you have a terminal window open?01:23
milo_That's true.01:23
milo_At least they talk to me.01:23
reisioant0neo: plugin?01:23
justicehey, building a computer and having problems starting it up anyone able to help me figure how to troubleshoot? I can't do anything useful with it but watch it post.01:23
reisiomilo_: otis_01:23
milo_debugnet:Yes01:23
reisiojustice: run the specs by #hardware, make sure you have the right power, etc.01:24
milo_I was just typing in the terminal window.01:24
debugnetmilo_: where did you save the tar.gz file?01:24
supuerscan you boot into the os at all01:24
debugnetmilo_: if you don't know, no biggy i there is a way to find it.01:24
milo_home/milo/Downloads01:24
ant0neoapplication/x-gzip decoder plugin for the sound recorder01:24
debugnetmilo_: k. from the terminal type: cd /home/milo/Downloads make sure you are case sensitive01:24
milo_file is: wicd-1.6.2.tar.gz01:24
ant0neoO cannot play a recording I just made on mumble platform as I dont have this plugin01:25
milo_Ok, I changed the directory01:25
debugnetmilo_: from there type gunzip -cd wicd-1.6.2.tar.gz|tar -x01:25
ant0neoI appologise for my ineptitute in not knowing where and how to get such a simple thing as a plugin01:25
milo_Sorry if I come across as grumpy.01:26
milo_tar-x: command not found01:26
greylurkant0neo application/x-gzip is a .gz file.  gzip is the app to read those.01:26
milo_gunzip-cd:command not found01:26
debugnetmilo_: make sure you include the spaces in between where they go.01:27
greylurkmilo_: forgot a space.01:27
ant0neoand that is available at Ubntu software centre? greylurk?01:27
milo_I copied and pasted what you typed and didn't get any "command not found" messages. Not sure where I messed up.01:28
debugnetmilo_: good01:28
greylurkant0neo - it's part of the standard base install.  just type gzip -d <filename>01:28
debugnetmilo_: from there type ls -al to see if there is any new folders in there01:28
ant0neothanks greylurk appreciated01:28
milo_Thanks again for helping by the way. Don't mean to take my frustrations out on you guys who are helping me out.01:28
debugnetmilo_: no biggy i enjoi this stuff01:29
milo_No command 'ls-al' found, did you mean: Command 'lshal' from package 'hal' (universe)01:29
DrPenguinls -al01:30
DrPenguinneed a space in there01:30
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escottmilo_, "ls -al" with the space01:30
greylurkmilo_ : You have to put a space between the command and the dash.01:30
milo_OH! There is a space there. My bad. Let's try that again.01:30
supuersdebugnet any ideas on why xchat will not connect to server and asks if this is an ssl connection01:30
milo_Ha, ok, it gave me some stuff back. Sweet! Finally getting somewhere!01:30
debugnetmilo_: what directorys (probably in blue) do you see in there?01:31
debugnetsupuers: i am not to familiar with xchat cuz i use irssi but i would assume that you should be able to just connect anyway cuz this is not ssl01:31
milo_debugnet: Uhm, not sure. It says Bootdisk in blue and wicd-1.6.2 in blue01:31
debugnetmilo_: k now type cd widc-1.6.201:32
milo_should I try to do a pastebin thing?01:32
supuersokay thanks01:32
debugnetmilo_: nah, i got what i need so far01:32
milo_bash: cd: widc-1.6.2: No such file or directory01:32
debugnetmilo_: oops that was my typo wicd not widc01:33
ubuntuser1hello Ive been having problems trying to install the hp deskjet 3050 j610 because the driver is not found. Anyone has any experience working out this issue_01:34
milo_Oh, I should have caught that. My bad.01:34
milo_Ok, it's changed.01:34
debugnetmilo_: you can use the up key to go back in commands you've typed and then use the left key to go back to the characters that you miss typed and then delete them as necessary01:34
Tommy34when I install Ubuntu, what exactly does Grub do, and where exactly does Grub write data?  to MBR and FAT? Or somewhere else?01:34
milo_Oh yeah. I forgot about that. That makes things easier.01:35
debugnetTommy34: to mbr if you tell it to.01:35
reisioubuntuser1: install hplip and hplip-gui01:35
reisioubuntuser1: might be what you need01:35
milo_Oh, all these files are in my download folder.01:35
ant0neogreylurk: I typed type gzip -d and the file name that is in the sound recorder (mumble-1.2.3.tar.gz) into terminal and got gzip is /bin/gzip01:35
ant0neobash: type: -d: not found01:35
ant0neobash: type: mumble-1.2.3.tar.gz: not found01:35
ant0neo 01:35
forlas1Hello, is there a policy anywhere that says how updates to packages work (ie if the package is broken in stable and needs an update, does it get pushed to stable or to the next release?)01:36
reisioTommy34: GRUB tells the computer where the kernel/OSes are01:36
ubuntuser1reisio, thans01:36
debugnetmilo_: from there type: ./config and then press the tab key and it should finish typing the rest or put a space after letting you know that it is correct (so that you know which one to use)01:36
reisioTommy34: it's install to the MBR typically, which is just the very beginning of the disk that the OS doesn't use01:36
reisioTommy34: though userspace utils and configurations are also required01:37
milo_Nothing happened when I pressed tab...01:38
hihaatjeHey, i tried what you said01:38
dr_willisTab key is our friend. :) play with it and learn what it does..01:39
milo_debugnet: wait, if I put your name up it highlights what I type in red so you can see it better?01:39
dr_willismilo_:  thats a feature of the irc client. It highlits anyone that says dr_willis  (in my case)01:39
debugnetmilo_: yep01:40
milo_debugnet: Whao, it says "Display all 2307 possibilities? (y or n)01:40
dr_willismilo_:  so hopefully your irc client highlights anyoen that says milo_01:40
dr_willisbecuse you hit tab After a space...01:40
debugnetmilo_: no01:40
dr_willisits completing 'everything' that matches..01:40
milo_dr_willis: That's pretty cool01:40
dr_willistab key works in dozens+ other areas in bash also..01:41
debugnetmilo_: could you do me a favor and paste the link to where you download the file so i can see the contents as well?01:41
dr_willisapt-get install foo<tab>    completes names for example.01:41
Tommy34so if I install Ubuntu,  Grub only writes itself to the MBR, and nowhere else?01:41
dr_willisTommy34:  the grub boot record goes to the MBR. it then reads files from the /boot/ location to do the actual booting.01:41
greylurkTommy34: Depends on your definition of grub, but mostly.01:42
dr_willisTommy34:  grub normally goes to the MBR of the disk you are booting..01:42
milo_debugnet: https://launchpad.net/wicd/1.601:42
hihaatjehey guys i was here just now, had a problem with ubuntu 11.10, when i run it the mouse would frequently stop working (as in not being able to click on anything). someone here thought it might have to do with my mouse having too much buttons and that i should try changing the button map with xinput. i tried that, but it didnt work.01:42
Tommy34dr_willis: so if you want to completely remove grub and have W7 boot as normal again, what do you do?01:42
dr_willisTommy34:  have windows reinstall its bootloader to the mbr.01:42
Tommy34dr_willis: i dont have the W7 DVDs.  its only on my rescue partition and does a complete factory default.  Other suggestions?01:43
supuersor use the windows startup disk01:43
Tommy34i dont have a windows startup disk01:43
dr_willisTommy34:  ms has download sites/iso images you can get to do recovery/repair options.. #windows would know more.01:43
Tommy34dr_willis: no they dont have any free isos01:43
dr_willisTommy34:  yes they do...01:43
dr_willisthey have small 'recovery/repair' iso images you can get.01:44
Tommy34dr_willis: they dont, and theres no link to one01:44
dr_willislegally and free last i checked. saw them mentioned on  Lifehacker a few months back.01:44
Tommy34dr_willis: Link?  cause I couldnt find any01:44
ubuntuser1reisio, I just installed the hplip-gui and hplip but cannot get the printer to work. It says that the driver is missing01:44
extorIs there a database of sha1 and md5 checksums for windows iso? I'm a bit leery of some of the ones shared on p2p01:44
ubuntuser1reisio, do you have any suggestions?01:44
dr_willisTommy34:  no idea off hand. go to lifehacker site and check. or ask in #windows01:45
greylurkextor: Microsoft keeps the MD5's under wraps for just that reason.01:45
Tommy34dr_willis: thats exactly right, yoiu wont know cause it dont exist01:45
greylurkextor: but you could probably find someone in #windows that will help you out.01:45
extorgreylurk, good grief are you serious!01:45
aBoundGotta love the workspace switcher in Unity.01:45
reisioubuntuser1: is it an all-in-one?01:46
dr_willisTommy34:  they definatly do. i downloaded and burnt them and have them in my toolbox.01:46
extorgreylurk, I only want to test this Dell iso I downloaded for my precision...so actually MS wouldn't have the checksums most likely01:46
ubuntuser1reisio, yes01:46
greylurkextor: That's the impression I got.  If you have an MSDN license, they'll show you the md5s on the download page, but otherwise, you're expected to use the CD's you got.01:46
reisioubuntuser1: well that's supported by hplip01:46
Tommy34dr_willis: if they did, you would provide a link, but you cant cause none exist.01:46
ubuntuser1reisio,01:47
reisioubuntuser1: what Ubuntu version are you on?01:47
greylurkTommy34: he's right, I just found them.01:47
debugnetmilo_: this is a new one for me but here it goes, type: python setup.py configure01:47
Tommy34greylurk: really?link?01:47
ubuntuser1reisio, 10.04 LTS01:47
greylurkTommy34: Try on #windows… They'll be able to point you to them.01:47
dr_willisTommy34:  you havent even bothered to look.. i was about to paste the url from lifehacker..but im not going to bother now.01:47
reisioubuntuser1: ah, okay01:48
Tommy34dr_willis: hatred and revenge is never the answer.01:48
reisioubuntuser1: you need a slightly newer version of hplip01:48
dr_willisTommy34:  neitehr is your attitude01:48
supuersupgrade your system01:48
reisioubuntuser1: 3.10.9 or higher to be specific01:48
extorgreylurk, I downloaded two dell isos and one of them had "custom" work that some smartass had thrown in01:48
Tommy34dr_willis: so do whats good, and pls give me the link.  Revenge is never healthy or good and achieves nothing. Thank you.01:48
ubuntuser1reisio, how can I get it?01:48
justicealas, #hardware is too engrossed in a conversation to help.01:48
HaltingStatei need ubuntu server help; is there a channel01:48
dr_willisTommy34:  go to lifehacker web site search for 'windows 7 recovery' like i just did.01:48
Tommy34dr_willis: im sorry for my attitude, pls forgive me :-)01:48
reisioubuntuser1: upgrading to 11.04 or higher would manage it, otherwise you'd have to attempt to use a more recent hplip alone01:48
Tommy34dr_willis: ok01:49
milo_debugnet: ok...I see something in the text saying WHEREAREMYFILES01:49
reisioHaltingState: help with what01:49
greylurkextor: It's best never to trust commerical software ISOs from a torrent.01:49
milo_Don't know what that means01:49
Tommy34dr_willis: you mean ww.lifehacker.com.au?01:49
dr_willisits just lifehacker.com here01:49
extorgreylurk, well he'd slipstreamed it but this is why I want those md5 or sha sigs01:50
HaltingState help; during installation, it hit enter at the screen "install common servers" and did not select lamp/ssh; is there a tool i can run to have those installed or do i have to redo installation or01:50
ubuntuser1reisio, I tried to upgrade but after updating from the update manager I cannot see the option to do an upgrade. I also tried doing apt-get dist-upgrade but got nothing :(01:50
Tommy34when I type lifehacker.com it redirects to .ay01:50
Tommy34.au01:50
debugnetmilo_: btw, i must have come in the middle of this but why are you trying to install wicd?01:50
reisiogreylurk: or trust any ISO, even free ones01:50
ant0neogot there greylurk: via the responses others got thanks01:50
reisiowhy trust when you can check sums01:50
HaltingState*I hit enter and skipped the screen (i thought enter selected option) *face palm*01:50
hihaatjereisio: hey, thank you for helping me before with the mouse problem. i tried what you said (remapping the buttons) but this did not seem to fix it.01:50
reisioubuntuser1: well that's a problem someone else in the channel will have to help you with01:50
Tommy34dr_willis: and when I type windows 7 recovery in search box, it finds nothing01:50
reisiohihaatje: got any other mice?01:51
supuersit should give you the option or just donwload 11.10 and upgrade from there01:51
ubuntuser1reisio, thanks01:51
greylurkHaltingState: You can install each of the requisite packages using "apt-get".  I.e. ssh is "sudo apt-get install openssh-server".  Or look in Ubuntu SoftwareCenter.01:51
dr_willisTommy34:  ask about it in  #windows01:51
Tommy34dr_willis: nobody knows in there01:52
dr_willislifehackers right side panel shows the serach hits.. and its acting weirdly in this browser.01:52
hihaatjereisio: yes, i tried another aswell, but when it was not doing anything but moving, it did not give any response when i used xev01:52
benn1dr_willis thats rude xD01:52
hihaatjereisio: so no buttons were registered at all01:52
reisiohihaatje: interesting01:52
ubuntuser1can anyone help me upgrading from 10.04 to 11.10? I know I need to go to other versions before 11.10 but after trying to upgrade from terminal I got nothing. I mean that when I do apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade there is nothing to upgrade01:52
Tommy34dr_willis: it didnt find anything for me in IE when I typed windows 7 recovery01:52
reisiohihaatje: different model/no. of buttons?01:52
benn1hey do you know where i can find my temp videos files of ubuntu01:52
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benn1using flash player 11?01:52
benn1and firefox?01:52
greylurkreisio: I generally trust the torrents if I grab them from the main site (i.e. ubuntu.com) since the torrent protocol includes better error correction than paltry checksums, but checksums never hurt.01:52
reisiobenn1: why01:52
dr_willisgoogle first hit for 'lifehacker windows 7 recovery' also finds them it seems01:53
ubuntuser1I also tried updating everything using the update manager but the option to upgrade does not appear. Any suggestions?01:53
xanguabenn1: you can use one of the various addons to download flash videos01:53
supuersyou may have to go to 11.04 first01:53
Tommy34dr_willis: whats the direct link please?01:53
reisiogreylurk: well, they work because you get the media from one place and the checksum from another01:53
hihaatjereisio: my mouse now is the Cyborg R.A.T.5, the other one i tried some crappy trust mouse with 10 buttons01:53
benn1xangua:not for all players or sites01:53
reisiohihaatje: okay, have you tried another USB or PS/2 port?01:53
milo_debugnet: Trying to get my wifi to work. Somebody on here told me they used Wicd. If you know any easier ways, I'm all ears.01:53
benn1i mean like watchcartoononline01:53
benn1i want to rip the video01:54
benn1i can do it in windows01:54
reisiobenn1: do what01:54
benn1but not in ubuntu....i heard ubuntu can do it using flash 1001:54
hihaatjeyup, i moved my mouse from back to front, and back again, still the same issue01:54
greylurkTommy34: is your google broken?01:54
reisiobenn1: http://www.downloadhelper.net/01:54
Tommy34dr_willis: I think this is the one? http://lifehacker.com/5384714/windows-7-recovery-discs-gets-your-system-out-of-tight-spots01:54
reisiohihaatje: do you have a file at /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?01:55
supuersare u using a wired mouse01:55
milo_debugnet: I was actually gonna try to reformat my hard drive and put windows back on, but my muon software won't download, I can't figure out the torball files, can't burn an xp disk to reformat, can't get wifi working... you know01:55
debugnetmilo_: could you type: iwconfig01:55
hihaatjereisio: im going to have to go back into ubuntu to check that. (since i cant do anything on there i have to go to windows to get here)01:55
milo_debugnet: ok, what info do you want?01:56
kcjHow do I get my system to do nothing when my battery is apparently critical?01:56
hihaatjereisio: ill be right back01:56
ubuntuser1reisio, would you recommend upgrading to 12.04?01:56
kcjI'm on 11.10.01:56
supuersnot out yet01:57
reisioubuntuser1: insofar as it would make available to you the hplip version you require01:57
Tommy34dr_willis: are these files legal? http://cybernetnews.com/windows-7-recovery-disc/01:57
dr_willisTommy34:  no idea. ask in #windows01:57
* dr_willis imagines MS would shut them down rather quickly if they were not.01:57
benn1reisio just tell me you dont know where the temp files go01:57
reisiobenn1: that would be a lie01:58
benn1then tell me where it goas01:59
reisiowould be a waste of both our time01:59
benn1no i am learning from you02:00
benn1i can give you a information about sidefx houdini02:00
ubuntuser1reisio, thanks02:00
benn1or anything you dont know02:00
reisioif I wanted such information I would already have it :p02:00
reisioit's simplest to use a browser addon02:00
reisioand failing that, something like rtmpdump02:00
waterDropwhich better Ext3 or Ext4 ?02:01
benn1your browser addon was awesome02:01
dr_williswaterDrop:  ext4 is the default these days..02:01
benn1but02:01
dr_williswaterDrop:  which works fine for most people.02:01
justiceAm I hosed for having plugged in a gfx card before making sure the thing boots up since I now can't get the damn thing out?02:02
waterDropok thanks dr_willis, i wont hesitated no more02:02
Anamika_anybody some ideas on live cd02:02
debugnetmilo_: does it list any wlan0 info?02:02
milo_debugnet: nah, don't see anything that says wlan just eth0, eth102:03
reisioAnamika_: shaped like a cow!02:03
waterDropcould someone recommending me software for formatting Ext4 ?02:04
dr_williswaterDrop:  mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdXX02:04
bfrihow can switch back to original desktop gnome shell for ubuntu 10.0402:04
dr_williswaterDrop:  or use gparted..02:04
escottwaterDrop, gparted gui very nice02:04
xanguabfri: 10.04 lucid uses gnome2, so there is no gnome shell02:04
debugnetmilo_: k. for those two eth0 and eth1 does it list any extra info next to it like IEEE 802.11 etc or no wireless extensions?02:04
escott!classic | bfri02:04
ubottubfri: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. To switch back to regular !GNOME: log out, click your username, click the Session box at the bottom of the screen, and select "Ubuntu Classic". For 11.10, see !notunity02:04
waterDropi'll try it02:04
waterDrop:)02:04
justicebfri: that's kind've going away, for annoying stupid political reasons.02:05
Tommy34dr_willis: how long you been a doctor?02:05
Ryllez89how i remove the shortcuts in the side of "aplications" and "local" menu on gnome-classic?02:05
waterDropthanks by the way02:05
bfrijustice: what is going away?02:05
debugnetmilo_: btw, is the actual wireless device usb or internal?02:05
escottbfri, gnome2 is no longer supported upstream02:06
milo_debugnet: eth0 no wireless extensions, eth1 IEEE 802.11 access point:not-associates02:06
bfriescott what will the effect of that be02:06
debugnetmilo_: good. eth1 is your wireless interface name. that means we can work with this. now comes the hard part...02:06
milo_debugnet: internal02:06
dr_willisi wonder if the fallback modes will get removed in the next release.02:06
debugnetmilo_: k02:06
dr_willisbfri:  basically gnome2 is dead.02:07
justicebfri: the gnome you're used to. my admittedly hazy understanding is that gnome got an ego and wants to push 3 on everyone, so Cannonical decided to build their own. The old Gnome forked into MATE, but i don't know that it's available in Ubuntu standard right now.02:07
debugnetmilo_: do you know your wireless ssid name that you have setup for your wireless router?02:07
milo_debugnet: "Now here comes the hard part..." sounds ominous02:07
debugnetmilo_: ;)02:07
milo_hmmm....02:07
escottbfri, 11.04 is the last version to have gnome2. you should check the gnome.org and extensions.gnome.org to get a feel for the replacement gnome3 aka gnome-shell02:07
reisiojustice: not exactly02:07
reisioGNOME got a craving for cardigans02:07
hihaatjeReiso: I managed to log in from my phone, what file should I be looking for again?02:07
milo_debugnet: Damn, I took an internet security class a while back. That sounds familiar.02:07
cappicardhey folks. for some reason, many youtube videos are playing with this annoying blue tint... i'm running ubuntu 11.1102:07
reisioCanonical, not actually so much in the game of supporting software, embraced it, though with a specific reconfiguration (Unity)02:07
reisioas for MATE, forking is the easy part02:08
reisiothe test is maintenance02:08
debugnetmilo_: is your wireless router 802.11 a, b, g, and/or n ?02:08
Ryllez89how i remove the shortcuts in the side of "aplications" and "local" menu on gnome-classic?02:08
reisiohihaatje: for what?02:08
justiceI did say that it was hazy. Something about GNOME flipping out and Canonical ditching them.02:08
dr_willisif gnome-shell was a bit more advanced at the time of release... we might of had gnome-shell as the default. :)02:08
bfriescott justice whats really stopping anyone from just reverting back to gnome 2 and below after the upgrade?02:08
reisiocappicard: what flash version?02:08
reisioUnity is "a" gnome shell02:08
reisiojust not upstream's default one02:08
escottbfri, incompatible abi versions between gtk2 and gtk3. you cannot have both installed02:09
hihaatjeReiso: for the mouse not registering problem02:09
cappicard11.2.202.16002:09
reisiohihaatje: ah02:09
escottbfri, at least not enough to be able to have the entire desktop stack working02:09
reisiohihaatje: oh, /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:09
dr_willisThem Gnomes are Complex little beasties!02:09
bfriescott justice thing is i put the mac os gnome shell on but i want it out is there a simple way to revert back?02:09
escottbfri, i dont know what the "mac os gnome shell" is. but no there is no downgrade path02:10
reisiocappicard: you might want to revert to version 11.1.102.5502:10
justicebfri: personally I just tried out, and fell in love with, sudu apt-get install xubuntu-desktop02:10
cappicardbut i'm on 64-bit...02:10
debugnetmilo_: if you don't know the answers to those off hand no biggy i can go from here.02:10
reisiocappicard: 11.2.202.160 is a beta (of software that tends to be buggy already)02:10
reisiocappicard: so?02:10
cappicardhrmm...02:10
hihaatjeReiso: there appears to be no such file02:10
reisiohihaatje: okay, probably not worth following up anymore, then02:11
dr_willisbfri:  theres the fallback/failsafe modes.. thats as far  as reverting goes basically.02:11
bfriescott justice really i dont know if im reffering to this appropriately but basically i made ubuntu look like mac02:11
dr_willis!fallback02:11
Tommy34dr_willis: how many hours per week, in general, do you spend in this channel?02:11
dr_willisTommy34:  given my znc connection is up whenever my main ubuntu box is on... :) and i can irc from my cellphone at work...  quite a few.02:11
escottbfri, the new gnome-shell is done completely in javascript. if there is someone with the motivation to make it look like os x then its probably not going to be long until someone does. check extensions.gnome.org02:12
dr_willisit most likey seems like im here 90% of the time. dependng on the status of my znc server.02:12
dr_williseven if im not. :)02:12
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bfriescott justice dr_willis thanks guys02:12
Tommy34dr_willis: :)  you sure have a lot of free time on your hands02:13
dr_willisThe joys of a 'wait for somthing to break and hurry and fix it as fast as you can, and go back to waiting' job...02:14
dr_willis7 hrs of boredom, 1 hr of 'is it done yet.....'02:14
debugnetmilo_: type: route -n and send me the ip address for the gateway where the destination is 0.0.0.002:16
milo_192.168.1.102:16
justiceaugh this desktop is driving me insane.. I don't want to have to buy a whole new computer when I have all the parts for one in front of me02:16
hihaatjeWhat is alt + tab for ubuntu?02:16
escottjustice, what happens after post?02:16
reisiohihaatje: alt+tab02:17
justiceThe screen shows "no signal" and turns off.02:17
debugnetmilo_: k. from firefox (or whatever web browser you are using) enter that into the url and hopefully it connects. if it does, then you are connected to your router.02:17
hihaatjeSnap that isn't working02:17
milo_Debugnet: the server 192.168.1.1:80 requires a username and password. The server says: E100002:17
escottjustice, what video card are you running off of?02:17
reisiojustice: always, or after a certain part of booting?02:17
debugnetmilo_: k. have you setup this router before?02:17
dr_willisjustice:  at the grub menu you dont see anything?02:18
justiceright after it posts and gives option to go to bios, etc. no matter what I chose to do or not do02:18
justiceIt doesn't even get to the grub menu.02:18
milo_debugnet: no, a person in the house who's taken a networking class has. But they also tried to setup an unsecured wireless just for me to use. Which you know what that means, they were trying to watch my traffic. So I don't want to ask them any questions.02:18
reisiojustice: how'd you install the OS?02:18
dr_willisjustice:  grub has a option to use a 'text' mode or lower res settings. that ive had to use on some machines.02:18
dr_willisjustice:  but grub would still work.. you just couldent see it.02:18
reisiomilo_: maybe they're just dumb :p02:18
ControllerSYRello02:19
milo_debugnet: just dumb enough to get caught02:19
ControllerSYRhello02:19
reisioControllerSYR: 'lo02:19
justiceit's my old ubuntu box that got dismantled, shipped, then had to get some arts changed out02:19
dr_willisjustice:  i got grub to play a little tune from its config file so im sure grub loaded. :)02:19
reisiojustice: which parts?02:19
ControllerSYReny body here02:19
reisioControllerSYR: just us chickens02:19
justicenew card is a diamond radeon hd 5450 ati.02:19
reisiojustice: is the monitor plugged into it?02:19
ControllerSYRok02:19
milo_debugnet: they went out of their way to set it up, they know two other people who work IT and I heard them talking about the stuff I was looking at.02:19
ControllerSYRcan eny one here help me02:20
justicenew case, new graphics card, had to get a wireless internet card02:20
reisioControllerSYR: not until we know what your problem is02:20
reisiojustice: that does not answer my question02:20
debugnetmilo_: o k... well you can always invest in a vpn to fix that but i digress. how about we do a scan, type: ifconfig eth1 up then type: sudo iwlist eth1 scan02:20
ControllerSYRwht is it ?02:20
justiceyes. (well not atm because I have it unplugged to examine things)02:20
reisioControllerSYR: exactly02:20
milo_I should make a note of that...vpn02:20
debugnetmilo_: not cool.02:20
reisiojustice: you're sure you plugged it into the new graphics card and not a port from the mobo?02:20
dr_willisreisio:  :) been there.. done that...02:21
ControllerSYRmy problem is my ubuntu  9.10 dont accept update ?02:21
xangua!eol | ControllerSYR02:21
milo_ifconfig eth1 up, SIOCSIFFLAGS: Permission denied02:21
ubottuControllerSYR: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades02:21
justiceyes, i'm sure. I tried plugging it into the mobo but it didn't show me anything02:21
reisiodr_willis: :)02:21
ControllerSYRhe tell me there is a problem in network02:21
milo_degubnet: ifconfig eth1 up, SIOCSIFFLAGS: Permission denied02:21
reisiojustice: okay, what card was it again?02:21
debugnetmilo_: soz, sudo ifconfig eth1 up02:21
justicenew card is a diamond radeon hd 5450 ati.02:21
debugnetmilo_: must be root02:22
justicethe old card was, I forget but it was nvidia02:22
reisiojustice: do you get a signal if you boot from an Ubuntu live image?02:22
justiceDon't think so. I'll have to see what image I actually have on that stick though.02:23
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reisioyou really should02:23
reisiootherwise maybe the PCI slot is damaged02:23
hihaatjeWhat can I do about ubuntu telling me i do not have enough rights to overwrite something?02:24
reisioor it's an incredibly obscure (and therefore incredibly poorly supported) device02:24
reisiohihaatje: sudo02:24
justicedoing that now. I hope the slot isnt damaged, I can't get the card out of it. =(02:24
Resistancehihaatje:  nothing, because it means that whatever you're trying to overwrite isnt owned by you :P02:24
bennanother and last question..i installed my ubuntu using wubi in windows..And how can i access my windows files using ubuntu02:24
reisiojustice: you can't?02:24
ControllerSYRok i understud but is there eny way for update to a new ubuntu02:24
reisiojustice: that's not the best sign that it was put into the slot properly in the first place02:24
reisio(or alternatively: that it is actually meant for that slot type)02:25
justiceIt won't remove with reasonable force. it LOOKS like it fits right, but it acts like it's wedged against the case and won't tilt back to come loose.02:25
milo_degubnet: ok, I typed sudo before it and it went through it looks like02:26
ControllerSYRthank you !02:26
dr_willisbenn:  check 'mount' command output.. i belive the windows drives are mounted to some dir /host or somthing like that.02:26
reisiohard to say without feeling it, kind of a tactile thing02:26
reisiobut generally it shouldn't be that hard to get cards in and out, if they are meant to fit with one another, and were properly connected02:26
justiceIt snapped into place without too much trouble, but I tried pulling it to test integrated and no luck.02:26
milo_debugnet: soz?02:26
reisioaside from really poorly designed or compact cases that just make it hard, of course02:26
dr_willispcie cards have some locking tab ive seen...02:26
reisiohmmm02:27
dr_willisat least some do :)02:27
escottjustice, is there a latch at the base of the card? have you released that02:27
dr_willisor was that agp? i cant rember...02:27
milo_debugnet: Oh, http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=soz02:27
debugnetmilo_: means sorry02:27
rcmaehlCompiz randomly restarts on my pc. What could be causing that and is there any info I can provide to you all to help diagnose the problem. Ubuntu 11.10 64-bit02:27
reisioif it were me, I'd be more confident that the card was inserted properly if I could take it out and put it back in and have it feel the same02:27
escottdr_willis, i dont think agp had it. i think it started with pci-e02:27
justicethere is a latch, but it doesn't seem to do anything. the card hooks in behind it and does not come straight out.02:27
dr_willisi just rember that locking tab.. becuase i had a mb with one that was broken.. you couldent unlock it without a screwdriver. :)02:28
dr_willisI had to push on a tabon the mb slot. to remove the card.02:28
debugnetmilo_: i like how it says 'illiterate' but do it cuz it short, maybe lazy though02:28
reisioyou push it away from the slot02:28
reisioin the direction of the side the tab is on02:28
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reisioor down, depending02:28
debugnetmilo_: any luck with the scan?02:29
justiceit's on the side of the port on the board.02:29
dr_willisI havent even opened the case on the new desktop box i bought like 3 mo ago...02:29
blackboxdoes anybody know of a site that you can type in a word and it will speak it to you / give you the definition and synonyms? My spelling a pronouncation is terrible. I think being a good speller is linked to being able to pronounce correctly.02:29
dr_willis:)02:29
reisiopfft02:29
reisiohonestly02:29
reisionever even heard of a PCI card falling out02:29
reisionot sure why they need tabs02:29
FloodBot1reisio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:29
reisioI suppose they could help with bumpy transportation, though02:29
reisiounfortunately you're beyond that, heh02:29
justiceyeah me either. :p02:30
reisioFloodBot1: poll speed too slow02:30
sokakHi everyone :)02:30
dr_willisIve seen some cases that use annoying 'quick locks' for cards instead of actual screws. so ive seen them get loose in the back.. but never fall out where they failed.02:30
milo_debugnet: nothing came up02:30
reisiosokak: hiyo02:30
milo_debugnet: but I didn't get any error messages back02:30
debugnetmilo_: try one or two more times, sometimes they don't come up right away02:30
justicethis has a screw, but I can't pull the side that screws up high enough to release the hook shaped bit on the card.02:31
sokakquestion: im on an ancient eeepc 901 (the one with 20gb ssd) and i picked the wrong drive to put on grub. Now the grub rescue is garing at me, what should i do?02:31
milo_debugnet: meh, nothing doing02:31
dr_willisNight all...02:31
reisiosokak: boot up the live media, run grub-install /dev/properdevice02:31
sokakNite :D02:31
milo_debugnet: can my conversation on here be tracked since I'm on a wired connection?!02:32
Picklefaceon 11.10 how do I take something I put on the top bar out?02:32
sokakthanks reisio, looking to that02:32
reisiosokak: or possibly https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair if the aforementioned fails02:32
saltyhow do i mount a usb hardrive that has been removed from a windows box without unmounting it?02:32
reisiosalty: hrmm?02:32
debugnetmilo_: yep, since it isn't ssl or through vpn or ssh, if they have the tools, they can do it.02:33
Picklefacereisio: how do I remove something I put on the top bar ? like those clicky button things if you know what I mean02:33
psusisalty, what?02:33
debugnetmilo_: ask them if they've heard of backtrack...again i digress02:33
reisioPickleface: would assume you right-click them02:33
saltyreisio, i copied some files to a windows computer and didn't unmount the drive before removing it... now it doesn't show up in ubuntu02:34
Picklefacereisio: only launch and property options come up when right clicked.02:34
justiceI dunno, I get the feeling i'll need to unscrew the mobo to get the gfx card out.02:34
milo_debugnet: fuuuuuu... that sucks. Oh well. Explains why they're in their room so much. Going through my info. Damn it.02:34
sokakjustice, while doing so clean the dissipator with compressed air :) Just prevent the fan spinning :)02:34
psusisalty, plug it back into windows and chkdsk it02:35
escottsalty, if it is ntfs boot windows and run chkdsk on that drive02:35
psusisalty, or scandisk02:35
justicedissipator?02:35
psusiwhatever microsoft is calling it these days02:35
Fizzyhi..i just installed ubuntu the first time02:35
sokaksalty, it doesnt come up neither in disk management?02:35
saltyi don't have a windows box... it was my little brothers02:35
Fizzyreally loving it was wondering if someone could help me out with some things02:35
saltylet me check02:35
sokakshoot Fizzy02:35
justiceFizzy: Like what?02:35
Fizzythank you02:36
debugnetmilo_: sucks i know.02:36
Fizzyso i installed it on my laptop02:36
psusisalty, then plug it back into your little brother's windows box and chkdsk it02:36
Fizzyits an asus UL30A02:36
justicesokak: I cleaned it pretty thoroughly before I started02:36
Fizzythe fn keys used to control volume and brightness barely seem to work they are super slow!!.. for example i sent the command 5 minutes ago and im still recieving osd of it recieving it02:36
reapingwohey can anyone give me a hand in trouble shooting my wireless card?02:36
saltypsusi, that's not possible... i'm sailing in the chesapeake bay02:36
reisiosalty: to be clear, as soon as you plug it in you should get a prompt to check it02:37
debugnetmilo_: no luck with the wifi scan?02:37
Fizzyi installed ubuntu before and removed it for this reason02:37
milo_debugnet: nope, hasn't done anything. WPA2 security would be nice...02:37
Fizzyso thought i would give it a second shot02:37
brophatis there an email notifier app that comes with 11.1002:38
milo_debugnet: back in 3, smoke break02:38
debugnetmilo_: k02:38
brophatcan that envelope icon at the top be configured for email notification?02:39
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justiceodd.02:40
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Fizzyit does seem weird because i experience no slow down in the system itself02:41
justiceok, my screwdriver is too short, this is going to need to wait a bit, grmbl.02:41
Fizzystill getting the OSD of brightness..02:42
fokklebrophat, here's something someone wrote in python.  Haven't used it myself:  http://arnab.org/blog/evolution-email-notification02:42
justicefizzy: i'm not sure what would cause that, personally.02:42
Fizzyany other way i can control brightness?02:43
sokakwooot reisio, that link was cool!02:44
brophatfokkle so that envelope app on the top right does do email notification?02:44
reisiosokak: do the trick?02:44
Picklefacecan anyone help me? I cant remove a button from the top and its really annoying.....02:45
fokklebrophat, no, sorry, not as far as i know.  I just thought you might want to try the python workaround.02:45
sokakits working, lets cross fingers :D Using the supergrub disk wasnt an option, im too lazy to plug in the usb cdrom xD02:45
justiceI know there is one, I have to get rid of it a lot since dimming the monitor never seems to work for me.02:45
brophatfokkle thanks02:45
fokklePickleface, you can't right-click, remove?02:45
justicenot because of anything technical, just because I can't see very well. :?02:45
fokklebrophat, no prob.02:45
Fizzyi hate it when the screen is too bright02:46
Fizzyhurts my eyes.. so whats the way to control it?02:46
reisioFizzy: install xcalib, run xcalib -i -a02:46
reisioor xgamma02:46
justiceyeah, well, I get irritated if turning on my living room light doesn't leave afterimages of people burned into the paint.02:46
reisioor fix your power management/graphics driver issues02:46
reisioI use xcalib with a perfectly working display and power system, though02:47
HaltingStatehow do i install gui on ubuntu server so i can remote desktop in02:47
reisioHaltingState: you could just use ssh02:47
HaltingStatereisio, I could02:47
Fizzythanks.. im updating software as we speak02:48
Fizzyhopefully it will do something02:48
HaltingStatereisio, i want to see what remote desktop is like02:48
reisioHaltingState: it's like adding an enormous ton of software each with its own potential for having a security vulnerability02:48
reisioHaltingState: that said, the default Ubuntu desktop metapackage is called 'ubuntu-desktop'02:49
sokakreisio, i owe you a beer!02:49
reisiosokak: yes you do02:49
reisioa keg of beer02:49
bennits not working i tried loging in su then pass..And i dont know how to mount the ntfs to get files in windows02:49
sokakill bring a truck of beer reisio, if you live in italy ;P02:49
reisiobenn: do what?02:49
reisiosokak: if I lived in Italy I would be busy being fawned over by all the hot exploited women there02:50
bennget files in windows 7 using ubuntu02:50
sokakreisio, then ill bring you my cousine ;P02:50
TooR4uHi .. i want to export my chat history from one gmail account to another email account is that possible?02:50
HaltingStatereisio, security risk?  the password for my user and root account over ssh is "password", but its ok because I have not set port forwarding for SSH on the server yet02:50
reisiobenn: the drive isn't auto-mounted? (check Nautilus, or ls /media/)02:50
reisiosokak: good man02:50
reisioTooR4u: ask #web02:51
reisioHaltingState: :p02:51
debugnetmilo_: unfortunately you will need to talk to your IT friend and have him help with getting the ssid so you can continue from here. i have a feeling he may have turned ssid broadcast off so you can't find it and the password is preventing you from getting it yourself.02:51
milo_debugnet: ok, thanks for the help02:51
sokakreisio, ill add another cousine if you can suggest a lightweight replacement for unity :P02:52
reisiosokak: unity 2d? lubuntu-desktop? (http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde)02:52
sokakreisio, you made my day u.u02:52
reisiothat's what reisio's are for02:53
bennreisio tried ls /media. and it says :System Reserved02:53
debugnetmilo_: i can give you this, once you have the ssid type the following: sudo iwconfig eth1 essid {ssid they gave you} and then give it about 5-10 seconds and then type iwconfig eth1 and see if has an access point, if so type sudo dhclient3 eth1 and you are good. if not, you might be out of range.02:53
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debugnetMilos_: oh, your welcome02:54
Milos_huh?02:54
reapingwowhat does it mean if my connection appears to drop occasionally (firefox stops connection, downloads pause) but ubuntu still says I am connected and I can still ping websites by name?02:55
reapingwoand to fix my connection, all I need to do is disconnect and reconnect02:55
reapingwoany ideas on how to start troubleshooting this?02:56
FlavioTrashPunktem punk aqui hoje??02:57
reisioFlavioTrashPunk: #ubuntu-br02:57
kj4hello i am amazed by ubuntix02:58
kj4now i hate windows02:58
reisiokj4: wee02:58
FlavioTrashPunkreisio, vlw.. tenks02:58
fokklereapingwo, what/how is it that you disconnect/reconnect?  Cable, ifdown & up, or what?02:58
kj4it is so much better, but how is it free?02:58
fokkleI mean are you plugging it in again?02:58
reapingwo_sorry I fixed it02:59
reisiokj4: by its devs not requiring money for it02:59
reapingwo_I click on the wireless icon and click on the network02:59
bennreisio you ignored me for the first time02:59
reisiobenn: ?02:59
reapingwo_it disconnects me and reconnects02:59
kj4reisio: thank you its devs02:59
fokklereapingwo_, that'll do it ;)02:59
bennreisio:tried ls /media. and it says :System Reserved02:59
reapingwo_its a wireless connection02:59
reisiobenn: ah03:00
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reisiobenn: pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l03:00
kj4what is an ubuntard?03:00
compitzhi guys03:00
reisiokj4: my guess would be it's a pejorative for an ubuntu user/who is not smart03:00
reisiocompitz: hiyo03:00
reapingwo_fokkle, I was wondering if there was an error log that kept track of network trafic that could point me to the problem03:00
kj4reisio: oh03:00
bonohi hi03:00
reapingwo_Irc stays connected as well03:01
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compitzi need some help cause im most desperate with my blank screen on startuo in 10.4 lucid03:01
reapingwo_my downloads and webpages just stop loading03:01
reapingwo_ping also works03:01
reisioreapingwo_: IRC takes precious little connection03:01
Picklefacefokkle: no03:01
vekinshould 11.10 live be able to see sata ahci ssd?03:01
fokklereapingwo_, i'm not sure the best place to look but you can start with "dmesg tail"03:01
Picklefacefokkle: the only options I have are launch and properties03:01
sokakreisio, im having random weird lines once in a while on login screen. What i should pick for updated intel drivers, the xswat ppa or what else?03:01
vekinnevermind03:02
fokkleor look at /var/log/syslog....03:02
reisiosokak: dunno, haven't used intel in some time03:02
compitzi need some help cause im most desperate with my BLACK screen on startup on 10.4 lucid03:02
sokakreisio, ty anyway :)03:02
reapingwo_would a search for the connection name (i.e. wlan0) in syslog yield useful results?03:02
fokklePickleface: strange, i can't reproduce that, even when i lock the launcher...03:03
Picklefacefokkle: erm well I'm using 11.10 with the gnome theme ?03:03
Picklefacefokkle: I'm talking about the top bar where you can make little buttons if that makes sense ?03:04
fokklereapingwo_, you can try it, maybe "cat syslog | grep wlan"03:04
Picklefacefokkle: shall I screenshot ?03:04
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fokklePickleface: i know what you mean but i'm not sure the screen shot would help.  remove doesn't appear, right?  not just grayed out?03:04
Picklefacefokkle: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/859/screenshotat20111229220.png/ if it does help, erm yeah I dont see remove...03:05
reapingwo_fokkle, thanks for that command, one of the linux commands I knew about but not how to use :D03:05
kj4was ubuntu made from zeros and ones also?03:05
reapingwo_should I put that in pastebin for people to read?03:06
Picklefacefokkle: the bar where filezilla and firefox is , erm..I only see launch and properties :S03:06
compitzcan somesone help? i need to get a terminal on startup but my display is shut down03:07
fokklePickleface: beats me.  try a reboot?03:07
Picklefacefokkle: okay03:08
c_smithcompitz, have you tried ctrl+alt+f2 ?03:08
fokklekj4: there were a few 3s and 4s thrown in to make it interesting.03:08
kj4fokkle: oh man, thats probably why it's so much better03:08
fokklereapingwo_, sure lets have a look.03:08
kj4fokkle: i think thats how my 4G phone works too03:08
fokklekj4:  that's right.  enjoy the goodness.03:09
reapingwo_fokkle, I think some of it got cut short how do I grab all of it?03:09
compitzc_smith, yes i did, i aslo tried f6, other f-keys, e and held shift, no matter what i type screen stay black03:09
reapingwo_too long to print all in the terminal03:09
c_smithhmmmmm, then it could be either your monitor is shot, or you GPU is shot.03:09
c_smithcompitz, that was at you.03:10
fokklereapingwo_, try this:  "cat syslog | grep wlan0 > ~/Desktop/syslog.txt03:10
fokklereapingwo_, that should get you a file you can copy/paste from.03:10
Ra_is there a fix for a tied up cpu?03:10
reapingwo_thanks again for the new commands fokkle, I am taking notes :D03:11
c_smithRa_, short of doing a hard reboot, I don't believe so.03:11
c_smithRa_, but I could be wrong.03:11
compitzc_smith, its a graphics driver problem, i deleted nvdia to try the open source one, then it turned out 10.4 lucid had a bug with the grub, a solution described in http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/securitymonkey/black-screen-on-boot-with-ubuntu-104-lucid-lynx-solution-3842603:11
Ra_thx03:11
reapingwo_http://pastebin.com/A2iuZNxw03:12
c_smithcompitz, then you may need to do a fresh install, as it looks ike something went very wrong.03:12
compitzc_smith, now i edited grub manually to "nomedeset" in the mounted hd, but i couldnt run update-grub , because on my encrypted hd, because  it was the live-cd-terminal03:13
compitzc_smith grub to "nomodeset"03:14
Youngfunhi all03:14
c_smithcompitz, I don't know what to say, if you're having problems doing update-grub, I don't know what to suggest short of reinstalling Ubuntu, as update-grub is my only other option for fixing that.03:15
hamedhi can any know how can i switch from xfce to unity03:15
compitznow the big question, c_smith, is how i can run update-grub without a terminal on startup03:15
c_smithhamed, you can run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and keep the xfce as an alternative.03:15
compitzc_smith, can i mount the hd and pretend im root so i can run it?03:16
reapingwo_not to be impatient but just wanted to make sure fokkle saw this03:16
reapingwo_http://pastebin.com/A2iuZNxw03:16
c_smithcompitz, impossible to run a terminal on startup without know whether it actually started. and can't run it from grub, but GRUB2 DOES have a built-in command editor.03:17
c_smithcompitz, do you see GRUB at the start?03:17
fokklereapingwo_:  i'm looking at it and i see the ip-config unavailable, just not sure what to make of it yet.03:17
hamedthank you very much03:17
fokklereapingwo_, there are other references online...03:17
c_smithhamed, no prob03:17
fokklereapingwo_,  but not sure the culprit.  could be network manager but i hate to say reinstall when i don't know for sure yet.  let me look a little more..03:18
compitzc_smith, all i see is my screen going black, like when i shut down my pc03:18
compitzc_smith, what do you mean by GRUB?03:18
c_smithcompitz, GRUB is the bootloader.03:18
kj4i thought it was lunch03:18
diegoviolaOMG, GRUB2 loopback feature is so COOL03:18
compitzc_smith, yes i do03:18
diegoviolaanyone tried it?03:19
reisiodiegoviola: heh03:19
c_smithcompitz, gimme a second, gonna see if I can get the button you press to halt the bootup.03:19
diegoviolarelurk: xD03:19
diegoviolaerr03:19
compitzc_smith, ok, thx. i also see lucid loading, but when it should come to the welcome screen, or just before, it shuts down03:19
c_smithcompitz, Lucid is 10.10, correct?03:20
compitzc_smith , 10.403:20
reapingwo_fokkle, To warn you I was also having similar trouble with windows 7.  But they said it was windows update sending malformed ARP packets that was causing errors on my router.  Turning off windows update and factory resetting the router fixed it however.03:20
c_smithcompitz, ah, ok, LTS ftw, eh?03:20
reapingwo_perhaps its a hardware problem with the network adapter?03:21
compitzc_smith, yeah i like it03:21
Youngfunhi everyone03:21
YoungfunI'm new on Ubuntu03:21
compitzhi Youngfun03:21
fokklereapingwo_, could be.  but do you have this issue at other wireless aps?03:21
fokklereapingwo_, also are you by any chance running kde?03:21
compitzwelcome, Youngfun^^03:22
reapingwo_I only have the one router, but everything else connects to it fine including a couple mac books and my android phone03:22
c_smithcompitz, ok, try pressing esc as soon as you see GRUB, you should be able to edit the bootup command from there with the "e" key.03:22
reapingwo_I have just vanilla ubuntu 11.1003:22
YoungfunI have Ubuntu 11.10 installed on VM Parallels Desktop (Mac host), but cannot install parallels tools... somebody knows about Parallels Desktop?03:22
kj4xubuntu is awesome03:23
c_smithcompitz, this would only be temporary I believe, so run the commands you intend to after you get in.03:23
compitzc_smith, im a newb. what does screen say when i see GRUB?03:23
sokakAnyone happened to plug in an usb thumbdrive, just to see that its seen in the disk management, but says "No medium inserted" (as it was just a flash card reader?)03:23
compitzc_smith, circa?03:23
fokklereapingwo_, ok, do you want to try reinstalling network manager?  it is known to be problematic....03:23
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c_smithcompitz, it's the short purple screen just after the BIOS screen.03:23
Youngfunmaybe it's better if I ask Parallels support....03:24
compitzesc, damn havent tried this03:24
fokklereapingwo_, i'm just more inclined to blame netman than the nic.03:24
compitzc_smith, esc, damn havent tried this03:24
c_smithcompitz, and the BIOS usually has the manufacturer logo of the mainboard/PC.03:24
c_smithcompitz, not surprising, it's easily overlooked.03:24
kj4xubuntu users differ from ubuntu users03:24
c_smithcompitz, and it's not too well known with new linux users.03:25
paulsomebodyHello, sentient life forms. Can anyone tell me from experience if CompizConfig manager still ruins desktops when ran as of version 11.10?03:25
compitzah k, so grub says ubuntu and i see some glistening dots? c_smith?03:25
Picklefaceerm rebooting dident work03:25
Youngfunwhat's xubuntu? ubuntu with xfce?03:25
c_smithis there a timer?03:25
Picklefacehow do I remove a icon from the top bar ? I dont see a delete button only launch and properties03:25
paulsomebodycompitz: Maybe you would know, judging from the nickname?03:25
compitzc_smith, when loading the os?03:25
almoxarifereapingwo_: it may be one of two things, weak signal from the place you want to connect to, or you receiving is crap03:25
ironfoot495Hi I'm having a problem with screen resolution  it will display a dell 19" but not my 37"akia?03:25
LucidGuyemail/postfix people around? simple question..  In regards to security, the main conf options to have correct would be mynetworks= ?  This is where you can allow networks to relay off of you..?03:25
c_smithcompitz, a timer anywhere03:25
c_smithif not, just press e03:25
compitzc_smith, timer?03:26
OerHekspaulsomebody, yes offcourse it ruin your desktop, mine not however03:26
reapingwo_fokkle, I do have another wireless adapter which got better reception on win7 but I need to ndiswrapper the drivers, looking it up now03:26
compitzpaulsomebody, did you mean me?03:26
fokklealmoxarife: maybe you can make something of this.  it's from his syslog:  http://pastebin.com/A2iuZNxw03:26
c_smithcompitz, from you not knowing tells me there isn't, it's a timer ticking down to loading the selected OS.03:26
ironfoot495can someone help me with this???03:26
paulsomebodyOerHeks: I do not think I understood you quite well. You do not use Unity?03:26
paulsomebodycompitz: Yes, that was a joke.03:26
c_smithcompitz, just press "e"03:27
xanguapaulsomebody: if yoy move things you should not, yes; you can always reset unity03:27
OerHeksunity runs fine03:27
Youngfuni hate the GUI of ubuntu 11.1003:27
ironfoot495I've changed the grub file to 1024x768 but when it boots it comes back with not support?03:27
OerHeksunity runs better with a SSD03:27
compitzc_smith, when I see the loading screen? (=GRUB) do i get this right?03:27
Youngfunmaybe kubuntu has a better GUI?03:27
michalchikWhat is unity?03:27
c_smithcompitz, yes.03:28
compitzpaulsomebody, didnt get it03:28
ironfoot495but it see the 19" great!03:28
c_smithcompitz, that's the GRUB I am talking about.03:28
compitzc_smith, thx a lot, ill try03:28
almoxarifefokkle: you want to give me a line number of the paste that you are most concerned about?03:28
fokklemichalchik:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_%28user_interface%2903:28
paulsomebodyOerHeks: xangua: No, I did not mean that. I have read reports that merely running CompizConfig as of 11.10 may corrupt some config files and make X impossible to start. Is this true in your, or anyone else's experience?03:28
urlin2umichalchik, a desktop03:28
c_smithcompitz, no prob, let me know if you need more help with editing the command.03:28
compitzc_smith sry for asking twice03:29
paulsomebodycompitz: I have a question about Compiz, you nickname is 'compitz'; I though it was a nice pun.03:29
ironfoot495I've also install the proprietary driver and still no sucess.03:29
michalchikI have a weird problem that I thinkis Ubuntu realted.03:29
urlin2upaulsomebody, you can mess with compiz but find a web link it will look like its broke when you start clicking stuff.03:29
compitzc_smith, i hope sudo update-grub is enough to gimme som light03:29
[[webrat]]any updates?03:29
[[webrat]]yes i have the same issues03:29
michalchikI just added the text to voice addon to firefox03:29
paulsomebodyurlin2u: Okay.03:29
fokklealmoxarife, take a look at 63--ipconfig unavailable...03:29
[[webrat]]i got this machine not working with the latest compiz03:30
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[[webrat]]x64 arch03:30
compitzpaulsomebody, like mingling what two words^^?03:30
michalchikIt is activated by pushingthe button in the bootom bar of the firefox window03:30
c_smithcompitz, I wouldn't run that in GRUB, just edit it with the lines you need to get it running.03:30
rcmaehlCompiz randomly dies on my pc. Is there any info I can give to help diagnose the problem? Ubuntu 11.10 64-bit03:30
paulsomebodycompiz: Yes, like that. Never mind.03:30
c_smithcompitz, and then run update grub when you login in a terminal.03:30
michalchikbut the version of firefox that came with ubunto does not sem to have a bottom bar03:30
fokklealmoxarife: take a look at line 63--"ip-config-unavailble"03:31
fokklealmoxarife, sorry, double post...03:31
almoxarifefokkle:  herpanet-g <-- tell me about it? yours? hotspot? you control it?03:31
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compitzc_smith, the intended line is already edited: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=”quiet splash” Replaced with: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=”nomodeset>”, like http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/03:31
compitzc_smith, like http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/ told me03:32
OerHeks!nomodeset03:32
c_smithcompitz, then it should run properly after you start it up.03:32
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter03:32
fokklealmoxarife:  no, it would be reapingwo_'s.  his ap, i guess.03:32
fokklereapingwo_:  you still with us?03:32
compitzc_smith , it doesnt. i suppose because i could run update-grub03:32
Picklefacehow do I remove a icon from the top bar ? I dont see a delete button only launch and properties03:33
c_smithcompitz, you edited it from GRUB directly. try booting up, and let me know what happens.03:33
compitzc_smith , it doesnt. i suppose because i could NOT run update-grub03:33
Picklefacefokkle: reboot did not help03:33
michalchikDoes anyone know why this version of firefox doesn't have a bottom bar?03:34
fokklePickleface: not sure what to suggest, then.  you could try booting to console, then remove, reinstall the desktop maybe.03:34
compitzc_smith, didnt edit anything from GRUB directly, what would that be?03:34
Picklefacefokkle: would reinstalling the theme do it ?03:34
urlin2umichalchik, right cloick the top bar then addon bar03:34
urlin2uclick03:35
fokklePickleface: i wouldn't think so.  i don't think the theme has any influence on whether you can remove a launcher from the panel.03:35
fokklePickleface: but give me a minute.  let me see if there's another way to edit the launchers there.03:35
[[webrat]]any news with the latest compiz? i still haven't got the issue resolved aftering installing it on my latest machine03:36
michalchikright clicking the top bar does not seem to do anything.03:36
[[webrat]]i got this asus and the compiz effects is having some issues loading03:36
c_smithcompitz, that would be editing the command while in GRUB using the "e" key03:36
compitzc_smith, do you get it, or dont i ?03:36
c_smithcompitz, get what?03:36
compitzc_smith, sry03:36
Picklefacefokkle: okay03:37
compitzc_smith, i guess editing the commandline is not necessary anymore, cause i did that on the hd?03:37
michalchikOK found it03:37
c_smithpossibly.03:37
michalchikSecond from the top bar, selct addon bar03:37
c_smithdid booting up work?03:37
michalchikThanks03:37
compitzc_smith, i havent tried, you confused me a little, dont wanna do anything wrong here03:38
reapingwo_fokkle, sorry about that I am writing a letter at the same time as I do this lol, has to be in the post tomorrow hence my distraction03:38
c_smithcompitz, ok, try continuing to boot up into Ubuntu and see if it works.03:39
c_smithcompitz, let me know the result.03:39
compitzc_smith, when i get a terminal you said you wouldnt run update-grub; say there will be a terminal, what am i suppossed to do?03:40
DukerAnyone know how to solve the overscan issue when using intel hd graphics 3000 with an hdmi out?03:40
c_smithcompitz, no, I said I wouldn't recommend using that as a boot param, it was a misunderstanding on my part.03:41
c_smithcompitz, go ahead and run it when you get in.03:41
reapingwo_herpanet-g is my e3200 cisco-linksys router03:41
compitzc_smith, and by "boot param", you mean an entry in the grub file?03:42
reapingwo_its dual band the -g denotes 2.4 ghz band03:42
c_smithcompitz, yes.03:42
paulsomebodyurlin2u: OerHeks: Okay, I have found the report of the issue I was talking about. http://askubuntu.com/questions/66079/compiz-crash-means-launcher-and-almost-everything-else-has-disappeared-from-desk03:42
fokklePickleface: you're on ubuntu 11.10?  this is unity?03:42
c_smithcompitz, but run the update-grub command in a terminal when you boot up just to be safe.03:42
reapingwo_I started a RMA with cisco because of the original problem on win7 but since turning off windows update it seems to have been fixed03:42
paulsomebodyurlin2u: OerHeks: Now, let's see if it affects me. :)03:43
c_smithcompitz, did it boot up?03:43
compitzc_smith, ahhhhh ok. Finally clear to relaunch now. thx for yor patience withme03:43
reapingwo_windows 7 was sending malformed arp packets causing the router to keep on handing me escalating ip addresses03:43
c_smithcompitz, no prob,03:43
Picklefacefokkle: yeah I switched it to gnome.03:43
reapingwo_which then used up all available addresses03:43
reapingwo_atleast thats what some guy on the internet told me ;)03:44
compitzc_smith , ill see, this will take some minutes, if it wont work, itll take like 15 mins, till im back03:44
c_smithcompitz, ok03:44
compitzc_smith, anyway thanks, ill try now^^03:44
c_smithcompitz, like I said, no prob03:44
urlin2upaulsomebody, to be honest it works fine for the cube and other plugins you just have to know what to do, how to restart it when it goes south while tweaking, find a web page that tells you how to do it.03:44
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fokklePickleface: well hell, I want to find an easier fix here, but I'm coming up empty.  don't know what to suggest but remove, reinstall.03:45
Picklefacefokkle: reinstall the whole OS ?03:46
fokklereapingwo_: that's crazy.  i understand it, but that's crazy.03:46
paulsomebodyurlin2u: Common sense and sanity is implied and necessary, but is not at all what I was talking about. Read the link I sent you — CompizConfig sometimes automatically disables the Unity plugin when you first run it. :) No user action necessary.03:46
fokklereapingwo_: i once had a dsl modem/router that would only hand out one ip address on dhcp, which is worse but only a little.03:46
fokklePickleface: oh hell no.  just the desktop.03:47
cjsWhy do we have a package that installs /usr/bin/ruby1.9.1 instead of ruby1.9?03:47
fokklePickleface: let me check the command but I think it should be "apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop" but let me check...03:47
cjsIs that a standard Debian thing? What about compatability with, say, CentOS systems?03:47
urlin2upaulsomebody, never experienced that and I have been using it for a couple of years. Just from a quick look it seemed like users who just are a bit noobish .03:47
reapingwo_fokkle, part of installing ubuntu was to make sure the problem is software and not the router itself03:47
Picklefacefokkle: okay, thanks03:47
reapingwo_because it is out of warranty but they said its a hardware defect so they will honor the rma03:48
fokklereapingwo_:  ah, i see.  i assume you've already been through the routers dhcp settings--range to assign, etc.03:49
fokklereapingwo_: especially the lease time....03:49
reapingwo_fokkle, yeah, although I just did a factory reset, but everything looked right03:49
paulsomebodyurlin2u: This is generally true, but not I don't think this is the case right now. I have read it happen to not-so-noobish users as well.03:50
fokklereapingwo_: hmm.03:50
paulsomebodyurlin2u: Anyway, I have ran CCSM and it did not kill anything just yet. :)03:50
reapingwo_lease time is at 24 hours03:51
fokklereapingwo_: someone brought up signal strength.  any chance you could be competing on the same channel with near neighbors, maybe switch the router to another?03:51
fokklereapingwo_, or are you pretty sure that this is dhcp?03:51
xubuntuhelp, how do i make all new windows open at the center?03:52
Picklefacefokkle: find out the cammond ?03:52
reapingwo_well it was dhcp with win 7, whats the ubuntu version of inSSIDer?03:52
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reapingwo_or whatever lets me see which networks are on which channels03:52
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lalagirlhi03:54
lalagirlis anyone alive?03:55
DrPenguinim kinda alive03:55
paulsomebody!ask | lalagirl03:55
ubottulalagirl: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience03:55
vmangudi`looks like abt 6 billion are alive03:55
fokklePickleface:  i think you'll remove gnome with "apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop" but I'd like to be sure.  I'm on an earlier version so gnome is default and that would be right.  but I'm not sure how it is after unity is default.03:56
fokklePickleface: i just don't want to steer you wrong....03:56
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lalagirlOkay, so I have a question. Now I have an Ubuntu computer, but I can't seem to connect to it from outside my local network.03:56
paulsomebodylalagirl: vmangudi`: And that number is steadily growing at the rate that have spawned concerns about overpopulation.03:56
lalagirlpaulsomebody that's really nice03:56
DrPenguinlalagirl: so your trying to remote into it?03:57
paulsomebodylalagirl: What are you using to connect to it?03:57
Siph0nWhen I visit a webpage that isn't up, it just keeps clocking, trying to connect to it... This happens in firefox and chrome in ubuntu.... So i dont think it is browser related. It does not happen in windows 7 firefox (gives connection reset error). Does anyone know how to get ubuntu (or firefox) to stop trying after a time?03:57
lalagirlDrPenguin paulsomebody: I'm trying to connect to it as in… like...03:57
DrPenguinlalagirl: we need to know the protocol03:57
lalagirlDrPenguin paulsomebody: go to a website and connect to it03:57
DrPenguinlike telnet.. ssh... etc03:58
paulsomebodyDrPenguin: lalagirl: Are you trying to open a folder share?03:58
lalagirlDrPenguin ssh … anything03:58
Coreylalagirl: Did you forward ports to it?03:58
vmangudi`lalagirl: tried pinging it from another computer?03:58
lalagirli opened the whole DMZ03:58
Coreylalagirl: Can you access it from the LAN?03:58
DrPenguinCorey: port forwarding shouldnt be needed if shes accessing it locally03:59
fokklePickleface:  do this.  login to unity desktop> go to software center> search gnome-shell > select remove.  that should remove it safely.03:59
lalagirlDrPenguin I want to access it outside my local network03:59
Picklefacefokkle: how do I login to unity desktop ?03:59
lalagirlDrPenguin I want it to work outside my local network03:59
lalagirlDrPenguin but it doesn't conenct04:00
DrPenguinah, I misread04:00
lalagirlconnect*04:00
DrPenguinyeah you gotta port forward04:00
fokklePickleface: log out of your desktop session, then when you log in again, select unity from a dropdown box that should appear along the bottom of the screen.04:00
lalagirlBut I already opened all of the ports already! I opened the whole DMZ04:00
Picklefaceah ok04:00
DrPenguinopening ports and forwarding ports arent the same04:00
DrPenguinwhen you forward a port, the request goes from your external ip to the local ip that the port is being forwarded to04:01
lalagirlDrPenguin okay, let me clarify… i've opened and forwarded all the ports04:01
DrPenguinare you forwarding to the right local ip?04:01
lalagirli can ssh inside my local network but i can't outside it for some reason04:01
lalagirli can't even visit my own website04:01
lalagirloutside the network04:02
Coreylalagirl: Residential IP?04:02
lalagirland yes, it is to the right ip04:02
Coreylalagirl: Sure they're not filtering 22 inbound/04:02
Corey?04:02
lalagirlCorey what do you mean by "residential IP"?04:02
Coreylalagirl: That question means "yes, you're on a residential IP."04:02
CoreyCheck with your provider, they may be filtering port 22.04:02
lalagirlCorey my ISP?04:03
CoreyAs a part of their "no servers" policy.04:03
CoreyImagine that.04:03
lalagirlCorey omg its the ISP all along?!?!?04:03
Coreylalagirl: Possibly. Try binding to an alternate (high) port and see if the problem goes away.04:03
Chr|sI am having issues with waking my my computer after I am away for 20 minutes. Clean install  ubuntu 11.1004:03
thechrisAnyone know how to get a usb wifi adapter to work in linux04:04
lalagirlCorey how would i be able to do that?04:04
thechrisit is dual band, and doesn't show any AP's04:04
thechrisBoth my roku and laptop (also dual-band) have no issue finding the AP, which is about 2m away04:04
fokklePickleface:  take a look at this: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xTketT17548/Tc3r18TqTDI/AAAAAAAAAIk/pqVSSnyEDcI/s1600/regular-ubuntu11.04-desktop.png   You should have some kind of choice there between the 2 desktop environments you have installed and should be able to choose unity vs gnome.04:05
Coreythechris: Is the driver being detected? Check dmesg.04:05
Pickleface_fokkle: yep, im on unity now04:05
thechrisCorey: the driver is detected, and iwconfig shows a wlan004:05
Pickleface_fokkle: how do I uninstall the gnome ?04:05
Coreythechris: What chipset?04:05
Pickleface_I forgot the intructions you gave me earliar XD04:05
fokklePickleface: go to Applications>software center.04:05
vmangudi`lalagirl: change the ssh port in /etc/ssh/sshd_config04:06
thechrisIt appears to be a ralink based chipset04:06
superuserI haven't gotten support yet so I'm reasking as it has be a reasonable amount of time since I last asked.04:06
superuserCompiz randomly dies on my pc. Is there any info I can give to help diagnose the problem? Ubuntu 11.10 64-bit. My GPU is a Nvidia Geforce 440 (fermi).04:06
fokklePickleface: then type "gnome desktop"04:06
Corey!wifi04:06
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:06
CoreyWhee.04:06
ok_waitmsg nickserv identify manager2304:06
ok_waitnice04:06
sharenice lol.04:07
ok_waitlol04:07
lalagirlare you sure changine the ssh port will allow me to connect to it?04:07
shareok_wait: go to #freenode04:07
share;)04:07
thechrisCorey: be more specific04:07
fokklePickleface:  you should see it somewhere on the list of results, marked as installed.04:07
Hakaseoh wow04:07
HakaseI knew someone was going to do that04:07
lalagirlbecause its not only about ssh… it's about connecting to the server and having it load the webpage04:07
urlin2usuperuser, have you tweaked compiz, and if there any other specificities post them.04:07
vmangudi`lalagirl: if your ISP is blocking port 22, they might allow the higher port. am not sure, but can try04:07
Hakasethat's why it's not a good idea to accidentally type in your nickserv password into an IRC channel with like04:08
Hakasealmost 1400 people in it04:08
vmangudi`lalagirl: well, they could be blocking port 80 as well04:08
lalagirlwhy are they doing this to me??!?!?!04:08
vmangudi`lalagirl: pbly nothing personal04:08
lalagirlhey it seems like my ISP is blocking the ports.....04:10
lalagirlOMG I'm so angry now...04:10
lalagirlit says it in http://www.optimum.net/Terms04:10
lalagirlif you scroll down to 22. Aditional Restrictions04:10
Coreylalagirl: Okay then.04:10
thechrisAnyone know how to get a wifi connection set up using the command line04:10
DrPenguinglad comcast doesnt block me..04:10
Pickleface_fokkle: I dont see the gnome theme04:10
alejandrohow do you view all hidden files in kubuntu?04:10
lalagirlit says that "Users may not run any type of server on the system. This includes but is not limited to FTP, IRC, SMTP, POP, HTTP, SOCKS, SQUID, DNS or any multi-user forums;" and "Users may not register or point a domain, sub-domain, or hostname to any Optimum Online IP address. Moreover, Users may not have traffic redirected to the Optimum Online Service;"04:11
DrPenguinls -a will list hidden files04:11
Coreylalagirl: This is no longer a Ubuntu issue. :-)04:11
lalagirlhey i have a question…..................04:11
Corey!ask | lalagirl04:12
ubottulalagirl: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience04:12
lalagirlif I get Optimum Online Boost or whatever it says "Users may not run any servers except for a webserver (HTTP) and mail (SMTP) on the system. This includes but is not limited to FTP, IRC, POP, SOCKS, SQUID, DNS or any multi-user forums." does that mean that i can't access FTP?04:12
A|i3NWhat do I need to install to get an older gravis PC GamePad to work under Ubuntu? It's using the radio shack USP adapter.04:12
DrPenguinlalagirl: you can access one that your not hosting04:13
vmangudi`lalagirl: you can access FTP *from* optimum online. But you cannot run a FTP server.04:13
fokklePickleface_: try searching "ubuntu desktop system"  but if/when you find it, click on more info to try to see whether that's gnome.04:13
lalagirlOMG this is even more frustrating.04:13
lalagirlall i ever wanted was to run my own server......04:13
edbianlalagirl, if you want to run an ftp server just set it up on a non-standard port04:13
ok_waitwhy would gnome-tweak-tool only change the window title font but not any of the others? i'm using oneiric with gnome-shell04:13
lalagirllike?04:14
alejandrohow do i list all hidden files on Dolphin file manager?04:14
edbianlalagirl, 300004:14
vmangudi`lalagirl: looks like you can run a http server04:14
Pickleface_fokkle: dont see it..04:14
edbianlalagirl, yeah, or set it up on port 8004:14
shareShould I worry? http://i.imgur.com/B9rGZ.png http://i.imgur.com/Whspz.png Can I fix it?04:14
edbianlalagirl, that's guaranteed to work04:14
ok_waitDefualt font, Document font and Monospace font04:14
alejandrohow do i list all hidden files on Dolphin file manager?04:16
fokklePickleface_: then try at the command line "sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop"  that should remove the desktop, though you might find yourself at console afterward.  if so, just issue this command "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"  then at least you can get back to where you were.  and you can try changing the panel again.04:17
ubuntufreakHi i am having issue with my Ubuntu 11.10 installation, my unity does not work and on issuing the 'unity --reset' command i get the following message  http://paste.ubuntu.com/787497/04:17
urlin2uubuntufreak, you don't use sudo04:18
ubuntufreakurlin2u, the same message is shown without sudo too04:18
urlin2uubuntufreak, have you run unity -reset the rebooted?04:20
urlin2uthen04:20
ubuntufreakurlin2u, no should i reboot after running the command ?04:21
A|i3Nok let me rephrase my question. I just figured out my gamepad works just fine. IS there a way to use it in a browser such as on a retro gaming site. lol04:21
lalagirlhi I'm back.04:21
KinGDaViD63what up what up peeps04:22
edbianA|i3N, yeah, if it works use evdev to map it to asdw and such for the game04:22
urlin2uubuntufreak, I would... compiz is funky does not refresh well at times. Sometimes just logging out works, IO have the fusion-icon on the resktop as a launcher it restarts conpiz04:22
fokklePickleface_: any joy?04:23
thechrisanyone familiar with ralink firmware?04:23
thechrisspecifically, how-to04:23
A|i3NahhHh ok Thank you Edbian. :)04:23
urlin2u!wifi | thechris04:24
ubottuthechris: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:24
edbianA|i3N, sure04:24
ubuntufreakurlin2u, ok would try to reboot now04:24
thechrisurlin2u: |grep firmware04:24
thechrisoh, nothing04:24
lalagirlOkay. So it seems as though I am using Optimum Online Residential… What I should have been running is Optimum Online Business.04:24
lalagirlThat is why the ports are blocked from my ISP and therefore do not work outside my local network.04:24
edbianlalagirl, why pay for ports to be opened?  Just use non-standard ports04:24
iToastello04:25
iToastHello*04:25
iToastCan Ubuntu watch all traffic on my network.04:25
edbianlalagirl, They don't block things about like 1024  (those below 1024 are standard)04:25
iToastJust log specific things04:25
monstaRtruckhey guyz04:25
lalagirledbian I want people to access my website. In order for that to happen, I need port 80 to be opened, right?04:25
monstaRtruckim in buntu 1110 on my mac air 201104:25
edbianlalagirl, port 80 is one that is open on optimum (at least that's what you said)04:25
edbianlalagirl, but yes04:25
monstaRtruckfull rez will lit keys04:25
monstaRtruckwoohoo04:26
monstaRtruckthis is bad ass04:26
monstaRtruckhow do i place unity bar at the bottom04:26
monstaRtruckcan i get macbuntu for 11.1004:26
edbianmonstaRtruck, if you're trying to get a mac look get something besides unity running (awn for the dock)04:26
urlin2umonstaRtruck, ask that question in google and you will see the sites telling how.04:26
lalagirledbian that's only for optimum online "Users may not run any type of server on the system. This includes but is not limited to FTP, IRC, SMTP, POP, HTTP, SOCKS, SQUID, DNS or any multi-user forums;" for optimum online boost "Users may not run any servers except for a webserver (HTTP) and mail (SMTP) on the system. This includes but is not limited to FTP, IRC, POP, SOCKS, SQUID, DNS or any multi-user forums"04:26
lalagirl and for optimum online boost, "Users may not run any servers except for a webserver (HTTP) and mail (SMTP) on the system. This includes but is not limited to FTP, IRC, POP, SOCKS, SQUID, DNS or any multi-user forums."04:26
edbianmonstaRtruck, you cannot move the unity bar04:27
edbianlalagirl, i read that wrong04:27
lalagirlwooops… the message was cut off.04:27
iToastlalagirl: !pastebin04:27
fokkleiToast, no, you can only capture from your own computer's nic, unless you connect to a hub (not a switch) connected to your router or have an enterprise-type switch with port mirroring.04:27
iToastfokkle: What if I sit in the middle.04:27
lalagirli don't need pastebin for that04:27
edbianlalagirl, that's ok.  so you do not have 'online boost' ?04:27
urlin2uedbian, there is a hack to move it to the bottom.04:27
edbianurlin2u, oh, didn't know that!04:27
lalagirledbian no, i just have the regular optimum online… not optimum online boost04:28
monstaRtruckno i use mint04:28
lalagirledbian sucks for me...04:28
monstaRtruckand macbuntu with cairto04:28
urlin2uedbian, not very pretty at least iIthought so.04:28
edbianlalagirl, They may have put that in their policy but it is possible they are not blocking this ports04:28
edbianurlin2u, mhmmm04:28
fokkleiToast: well, you could set up an ubuntu box to route, with 2 nics, and have the 2nd one go back to a switch.  but it'd be a fair amount of trouble to set up...04:28
vyadhaka1I am having trouble installing LVM over LUKS on a GPT drive. Has anyone had any success04:28
lalagirledbian does your ISP block port 80?04:28
monstaRtruckcan i get macbuntu for 11.10?04:28
edbianlalagirl, nope: ednovak.net04:28
edbianlalagirl, they are blocking port 5304:29
thechrisAnyone familiar with wireless in ubuntu and specifically "firmware" for usb devices?04:29
lalagirledbian you lucky ....04:29
thechrisand if you're going to !wifi, at least point out where I should look, as "firmware" doens't appear04:29
edbianlalagirl, yes, well.  optimum apparently sucks04:29
vmangudi`lalagirl: you can get webserver hosted for a low price... 3-4 bucks a month04:29
edbianthechris, what card do you have?04:29
edbianthechris, it's a usb dongle?04:29
lalagirledbian i feel like punching myseld04:30
lalagirlmyseld04:30
lalagirlmyself04:30
urlin2uthechris, have you looked here. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported04:30
edbianlalagirl, I think it will be ok04:30
edbian:P04:30
lalagirledbian to punch myself?04:30
edbianlalagirl, I think punching yourself is unnecessary as it will not result in optimum opening ports for you for free.04:31
edbianlalagirl, Did you want to run httpd or ftpd ?04:31
lalagirli'll be back04:31
monstaRtruckanyone here using macbuntu04:31
edbianoh ok  goodbye04:31
* edbian uses linux, not mac04:31
LOVenkrandsbuenas noches04:33
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edbianthechris, you there?04:33
thechrisyes04:33
LOVenkrandsim 24 from spain04:33
Coreylalagirl: If you want to run servers, either get a VPS or a business class connection.  You're on a residential connection, with a residential level of service.04:34
edbianthechris, what card is this?  Do you know how to figure this out?04:34
thechristhis is a rt2800usb device, asus usb-n5304:34
thechrisI'm apparently supposed to firmware04:34
edbianthechris, what exactly does  lsusb call it?04:35
edbianthechris, yeah, we need firmware / drivers.  The trick is figuring out which packages it is.  That's where I can help.04:35
thechristhere really isn't much more information, like what I should do with the firmware04:35
edbianthechris, does the usb device show up in the output of lsusb ?04:35
edbianthechris, do you know how to run lsusb?04:35
edbianthechris, I don't know what firmware/driver/package we need to install without more info04:36
thechrislsusb calls it "asustek computer, inc", on dev 2,704:36
edbianthechris, can you pastebin the line?  paste.ubuntu.com04:36
vyadhaka1goleff04:36
edbianthechris, where did yo uget rt2800 from?04:36
thechrisform lsmod04:36
edbianthechris, rt2800 must be a driver...04:37
edbianthechris, please pastebin the output of lsusb -v   paste.ubuntu.com04:37
thechrisedbian: that computer isn't connected to the internet04:37
edbianthechris, oh :(  how about can you just give me the one line about this device from lsusb ? the entire line without altercations04:38
thechrisbus005, device 002: ID 0b05:179d ASUSTek Computer, Inc.04:39
edbianthanks04:39
martianAloha! I have the following command in my rc.local script, but it doesn't seem to be working. It works find if I manually run it as root though. How can I sort out why it's not working? /bin/su - martian -c "ssh -f -L 1139:localhost:139 my.remote.host -N"04:39
edbianthechris, it was the 0b05:179d I needed04:40
thechrisand same for bus 002, device 007, except  it is 179c04:40
jmscomtechis it possible to change the audi out put to 64 ohms rather than standard 32 at all?04:40
jmscomtechi have a soundcard with a builtin amp that does 64 ohms wich boosts the sound volume but in ubuntu i find i cant get there04:41
jmscomtechin windows the software boosts the sound04:41
edbianthechris, I'm not sure that's the wifi card?04:42
edbianthechris, if you run sudo iwlist scan   do you get any wifi networks in the output?04:43
thechrisedbian: the verbose outptu lists it as an 802.11 WLAN04:43
edbianthechris, what verbose output?04:43
matthewofencinitHi, I'm trying to extend my desktop across two monitors. Anybody help? I'm ignorant, so if you need more info say so. Thanks04:43
thechrisedbian: from lsusb -v04:44
edbianthechris, ahh, ok good sign04:44
thechrisedbian: iwlist scan -- wlan0 has no scane results04:44
edbianthechris, what about sudo iwlist scan ?04:44
edbianthechris, what exactly does it say?   does it say 'network is down?'04:44
thechrisno, just "no scan results"04:44
edbianthechris, Then, I think the card is working, and there are no wifi networks near you.04:45
thechrisedbian: no, there are 2 dozen networks by me04:45
edbianthechris, mmm, ok04:45
thechrisedbian: my laptop is on one of them04:45
edbianthechris, ok04:45
edbianthechris, sudo modprobe rt2500usb04:48
paulsomebodymonstaRtruck: I do not know what about MacUbuntu, but you can get Unity at the bottom.04:48
edbianthechris, I'm piecing this together from this page: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers04:49
edbianthechris, Except I can't figure out what chipset this thing is04:49
phenomquestion: What is the best way to sync desktop environments? I'd like to have the same spitting image across multiple pc's. rsync/csync home dir?04:50
edbianthechris, e.g. RT2571  or RT277004:50
thechrisi think it is rt287004:50
monstaRtruckmacbuntu 1010 will work on 111004:50
edbianthechris, based on what?  what about sudo modprobe rt2500usb  ?04:50
monstaRtrucknothing new04:50
paulsomebodymonstaRtruck: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/install-ubuntu-unity-bottom-launcher.html Pretty please, express your though coherently and use punctuation next time. :)04:51
thechrisedbian: based on wikidev, which lists it as "probably rt2800 or 2870sta"04:51
thechrishttp://www.wikidevi.com/wiki/ASUS_USB-N5304:51
monstaRtruckacshuly04:51
monstaRtrucki dont like that unity bar04:51
jmscomtechhow do i get the ubuntu sound settings to stick to the oxygen hd audio?04:51
edbianthechris, it said that was the chipset of the 0b05:179d ?04:51
monstaRtruckand no i will not use punctuashun04:51
edbianthechris, ahhh04:52
edbianthechris, I see your link now04:52
edbianthechris, what about the modprobe ?04:52
edbianthechris, I'm on the edge of my seat here!04:52
monstaRtrucksick got cairo dock04:52
paulsomebodymonstaRtruck: Suit  yourself.04:52
xcyclisthttp://pastie.org/309409704:52
monstaRtruckthx04:53
thechrismodprobe 2500usb -- wlan0 no longer appears04:53
thechrisi did rmmod 2800usb/lib first04:53
edbianthechris, ok, let's try that 2870  sudo modprobe rt2870sta04:54
edbianthechris, After reading your wiki page I'm not surprised that 2500usb didn't work04:54
edbianthechris, the rmmod  isn't necessary04:55
edbianthechris, have you tried modprobing this stuff before?04:55
thechrisedbian: rt2870sta doesn't exist04:55
edbianthechris, I was afraid of that.  I'll try to figure that out online04:55
lalagirlhi i'm back04:55
rcmaehlMy PC just kernel paniced. How do I figure out what caused it?04:56
lalagirlThanks Corey.04:56
DrPenguinrcmaehl: did you look at the kernel panic? it usually tells you THERE what happened04:56
rcmaehlnope04:57
lalagirlAnd thank you edbian.04:57
rcmaehlit didn't display it04:57
edbianlalagirl, sure04:57
DrPenguinthen how do you know it panicked04:57
|aaroncan i ask for help installing a php pecl extension (ibm_db2) here?04:57
rcmaehlthe pc hard froze still showing the GUI with scroll and ccaps lock blinking04:57
lalagirledbian I'll talk to you guys later.04:57
Blue1I am having an issue with abiword.  when I go to re-open a document I saved it says it appears to be an invalid document -- how do I fix?04:57
edbianlalagirl, bye04:57
lalagirledbian See you around.04:57
DrPenguinrcmaehl: during boot?04:57
rcmaehlDrPenguin: During normal pc usage04:58
DrPenguinrcmaehl: ok.. did you try VT switching?04:58
rcmaehl?04:58
DrPenguinill take that as a no.. look in /var/log, maybe it got captured in there04:58
rcmaehlwhich file?04:58
DrPenguini dont know.. maybe kern.log? you gotta look04:59
rcmaehldoesn't look like it was logged in kern.log05:00
DrPenguintry looking in other files there then05:00
DrPenguinbut it may not of been logged at all05:00
edbianthechris, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsDlink05:01
edbianthechris, I'm reading this05:01
rcmaehlI see something that kinda looks like what teh kernel panic outputs in syslog05:03
DrPenguinpastebin it05:03
edbianthechris, sudo apt-get install linux-firmware05:04
Blue1 I am having an issue with abiword.  when I go to re-open a document I saved it says it appears to be an invalid document -- how do I fix?05:05
thechrisedbian: hmm, something messed up.  rebooting05:05
edbianthechris, ok?05:05
edbianthechris, what chipset do you think this is?05:06
thechrisedbian: can't sudo05:06
edbianthechris, strange...05:06
thechrisedbian: I'm assuming it was rt2870.05:07
blackboxwhenever I create a desktop short cut of a website using chrome or firefox on ubuntu it always detaches it self from the many browser.... (how can I put it back into the tabs )05:07
edbianthechris, mhmm05:07
NimeshNeemawhere can i learn more about apt ? any good pointers ?05:07
edbianHow can I get the rt2870sta driver in ubuntu 11.10 ??05:07
edbianOr where can I find out?05:07
thechriswell that was a mistake05:07
edbianthechris, mistake?05:07
thechrisnow i don't have usb05:07
edbianthechris, any usb?05:07
rcmaehlhttp://pastebin.com/MzQBXj2X05:07
thechrisedbian: i put the rt2870 firmware in /lib/firmware05:08
thechrisnow the wifi prevents the mouse or keyboard from working05:08
DrPenguincompiz caused it05:08
thechrisat least at boot05:08
edbianthechris, but wifi is working?05:09
edbianthechris, where did you get the firmware?05:09
thechrisedbian: from ralink05:09
thechrisedbian: and I can't set the wpa password without a keyboard/mouse05:09
edbianthechris, i see, reboot05:09
edbianthechris, maybe the keyboard / mouse will come back (they obviously should not interfere)05:10
blackboxdoes anybody have that problem when creating a desktop shortcut in chrome or firefox the tab you are creating the desktop shortcut detaches from the main browser window... how to put it back? Or is this just a bug? Seems also that when you open a short cut it doesn't have the windows decorations05:10
dante123hi all, have an older computer with AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3400+    Want to know if I should go 32 bit or 64 with this cpu?05:10
edbiandante123, is it a 64 bit cpu?05:10
DrPenguinthats probably a 32bit..05:11
NimeshNeemadante123: how much memory u have ?05:11
Arcademandante123, what kind of Ram you have I assume x32 :)05:11
paulsomebodyblackbox: This is supposed to work that way, it is not a bug.05:11
dante123it is a 64 bit cpu and I have 2gb ram05:11
ArcademanI would still stick with x32 :)05:11
edbiandante123, DrPenguin the amd site says it can be 64 bit: http://products.amd.com/%28S%28cdylad45vuougtu24fqzoi2z%29%29/pages/DesktopCPUDetail.aspx?id=143&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=105:11
blackboxwhy would one want that ? it is annoying I would like it not to detach05:11
thechrisedbian: when i plug the usb adapater back in, i have access to the mouse.  still no AP's05:12
edbianthechris, when did you unplug the usb dongle?  Did you reboot?05:12
DrPenguinif it supports a 64bit operating mode then its a 64bit cpu05:12
paulsomebodyblackbox: Because this is how web apps work. Google more information if you want to know more.05:12
blackboxis their anyway in the preferences to specify this... cann't see why people would want this05:12
dante123edbian would you recommend 64 bit or 32?05:12
edbiandante123, the biggest reason to use 64 bit is to use more than 3.2 Gb of ram05:12
edbiandante123, which you don't have sooo...05:13
dante123so then 32 bit is probably safest05:13
monstaRtruckwats up w gconf editor in 111005:13
paulsomebodyblackbox: If you want a web app to run unlike this, it is feasible.05:13
dante123okay05:13
edbiandante123, It makes little difference05:13
edbiandante123, I guess flash is easier on 32 bit05:13
Arcademanlol ^05:13
dante123this computer is for someone else....so I think I will go 32 so they dont get issues05:13
paulsomebodyblackbox: In Chrome, simply right click it and select the necessary option. I don't know about Firefox, though.05:13
dante123thanks for help edbian and others05:14
thechrisedbian: after rebooting, still no AP's05:14
edbiandante123, sure05:14
edbianthechris, but mouse and keyboard are back?05:14
thechrisedbian: this time they did come back05:14
edbianthechris, what module is currently active?  Did you remove the firmware from /lib/firmware ?05:15
paulsomebodyblackbox: It my experience, it works the same way in both systems.05:15
thechrisedbian: no, linux-firmware was previously at the latest version05:15
edbianthechris, Yeah, I know that.  (saw that on my system)05:15
monstaRtruckwhere is gconf editor it 11.1005:15
paulsomebodyblackbox: You want to create a shortcut to the regular webpage, or an web app?05:15
thechrisedbian: rt2800usb/lib is what is currently in use05:15
MxxChey folks. when i try to install firmware-b43legacy-installer i get05:16
edbianthechris, strange name,  is that what was active when you saw AP's listed?05:16
MxxC~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure firmware-b43legacy-installer05:16
MxxC[: 17: missing ]05:16
MxxC[: 17: missing ]05:16
FloodBot1MxxC: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:16
edbianMxxC, That package doesn't exist anymore.  What card do you have?05:16
thechrisedbian: I've never seen AP's listed from the desktop, only from the laptop05:16
blackboxso is their away to open a short cut with all the windows tool bars in firefox and chrome.... On windows I don't have this problem because it always opens with all the tool bars05:16
paulsomebodyblackbox: Yes.05:17
edbianthechris, desktop, laptop... ?05:17
blackboxhow05:17
edbianthechris, which machine have we been talking about this whole time05:17
edbianI can't read your mind05:17
paulsomebodyblackbox: What you are doing is creating a web app, what you need is simply to create a shortcut.05:17
MxxCedbian, it exist in 11.04...? i have bmc4306 it's dell D600 laptop05:17
thechrisedbian: oh, the desktop is what doens't work.  the laptop also has wifi and is what I've used to determine that the wireless world still exists05:17
edbianMxxC, I have that card!05:17
edbianMxxC, sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer05:17
edbianthechris, ok, you've never seen wifi networks using the usb dongle in question right?05:18
thechrisedbian: no, its new05:18
MxxCedbian: it says unsupported device was found and i should use b43legacy05:18
edbianMxxC, oh really... lemme check something05:18
blackboxwell I go under tools/create application short cut and have the desktop checkbox set when I hit ok it doesn't work?05:19
edbianthechris, I think your best bet is to get rt2870sta working, unfortunately I cannot find what package this is in05:19
NotJimCarreyok, i'm using dd to mirror a 904Gb NTFS partition onto a new XFS partition. it's only copying at 20.1Mb/s, so it'll take about another 14 hours, and I'm using SATA to SATA05:19
NotJimCarreyany ideas on how to speed it up?05:19
thechrisedbian: the usb key blinks regularly.  that doesn't really help me much05:19
thechrisedbian: i'm probably just going to have to see if the 3rd party module compiles in 11.1005:19
edbianMxxC, sudo apt-get install firmware-b43legacy-installer   (is that what you originally ran?)05:19
MxxCNotJimCarrey: use larger blocks?05:19
computer_my sound has stopped working....what do i do?05:20
edbianthechris, Yes, I think that is rt2870sta05:20
paulsomebodyblackbox: Simplify all our lives and just google it next time. It is what I have just did.  http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/how-to-create-desktop-shortcuts-for-websites-in-ubuntu-11-10-tip/05:20
MxxCedbian: yes, that's the command that gave me that error05:20
NotJimCarreyMxxC: how do i do that?05:20
paulsomebodyblackbox: You are welcome, though.05:20
edbianMxxC, do you have multiverse enabled?05:20
MxxCyes05:20
thechrisedbian: what is "sta"  "static?:05:21
szalNotJimCarrey: is that mirroring if you use dd?  dd doesn't copy files, it creates an image05:21
edbianthechris, IDK :05:21
NotJimCarreyok, then what's the best way to move everything? just mv?05:21
edbianMxxC, I guarantee that firmware-b43legacy-installer is a package and it is in multiverse.  I think you don't have multiverse enabled if you're getting 'package not found'05:22
szalNotJimCarrey: I'd suggest to copy first, and if all is well, you can wipe the source files05:22
kaushalHi05:22
edbianMxxC, this is ubuntu 11.10 right?05:22
NotJimCarreyok, i'll do that then. but is there a specific way to mount the drives so that it copies faster?05:22
MxxCedbian: i didn't get "package not found" i got "[: 17: missing ]", the same error i get even durking dpkg-reconfigure firmware-b43legacy-installer05:22
edbianthechris, the blinking unfortuantely means very little05:22
paulsomebody!ask | kaushal05:23
ubottukaushal: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience05:23
MxxCedbian: yes, 11.1005:23
NotJimCarreysorry, but haven't messed with that in several years05:23
edbianMxxC, 17:missing   huh05:23
edbianMxxC, googling05:23
computer_!sound05:23
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.05:23
kaushalpaulsomebody: hi05:23
kaushalI am using Firefox 8.0+build1-0ubuntu0.11.04.3, the memory usage and CPU Usage is pretty high. Any issue ?05:23
MxxCedbian: i'm experiencing teh same problem as 1st post in http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11433255&postcount=105:23
szalNotJimCarrey: not sure, but I think NTFS is the bottleneck; fuse just isn't as performant as the Windows kernel NTFS driver05:23
DrPenguinfirefox is a resource hog05:23
DrPenguinalways has been05:23
kaushal my system almost becomes unusable05:23
szalDrPenguin: nothing new05:24
MxxCedbian: and i followed all those instructions and tried manual commands as well..no luck05:24
edbianMxxC, reading..05:24
NotJimCarreyszal: that's why the new drive is XFS05:24
szalDrPenguin: it's a symptom of featuritis ;)05:24
NotJimCarreyit's for my media server05:24
DrPenguinszal: oh I know.. I use chromium05:24
paulsomebodykaushal: Try disabling extensions, this may help. Generally, in my experience, using Chromium is the easiest fix to Firefox memory issues. :)05:24
edbianMxxC, so firmware-b43-installer says to use legacy and firmware-b43legacy-installer says no device found05:25
edbianMxxC, ugh, bugs05:25
thechrisedbian: and the  kernel module does not build05:25
edbianthechris, of course05:25
edbian:P05:25
edbianI'm not sure05:25
MxxCedbian: firmware-b43legacy-installer gives this strange 17: missing error...05:25
szalkaushal: solution 1: use a different browser..  solution 2: buy more RAM05:25
edbianMxxC, I think that means it cannot find a device for this firmware05:26
MxxCedbian: should i file a bug for that package?05:26
edbianMxxC, yes, I'm looking for one right now05:26
edbianMxxC, can you sudo modprobe b43   ??05:26
NotJimCarreyMxxC: know of a way to get a progress (bar/pct/etc) when using cp?05:27
edbianMxxC, wait05:27
edbianMxxC, sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter05:27
MxxCNotJimCarrey: no. try using clonezilla05:27
NotJimCarreyand i am looking it up, but so far no luck05:27
MxxCedbian: i did..didn't help05:27
edbianMxxC, run that and then the other command?05:28
edbianMxxC, as post 2 says?05:28
MxxCedbian: yes, tried that in that order. same thing05:28
edbianMxxC, well, the last post seems promising too05:28
edbianI'm not sure05:28
edbianthis is a big and annoying bug05:28
MxxCedbian: tried that as well. :(05:28
MxxCno luck05:28
edbianMxxC, this is a BIG BUG  I suggest you file a bug report using the bug reporting tool in ubuntu05:29
edbianMxxC, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs05:29
blackboxI have an alias in a bash script file but when I try to echo the alias I cann't print it out? I tried echo $myalias but that didn't work I tried as well $(alias) that didn't work either05:30
Blue1blackbox: this may/may not help -- http://pkill-9.com/simple-annotated-bash-script-to-zap-a-user/05:32
blackboxno that is a simple script but it doesn't echo or printf an alias?05:33
thechrisdoes anyone know what is required to fix an implicit declaration of a function05:34
thechrisit prevents rt2870sta from compiling05:34
DrPenguinthechris: is this something you wrote?05:34
Blue1blackbox: you mean like a bash alias in .bash_aliases05:34
thechrisDrPenguin: nope, its a kernel module05:34
DrPenguinthechris: ok… so im assuming your trying to build it and gcc is yelling at you05:35
thechrisDrPenguin: yes, and apparently it is an error05:35
thechrisDrPenguin: though it says "some warnings are being treated as errors"05:35
DrPenguincan you pastebin the c file its complaining about?05:35
thechrisDrPenguin: i cannot05:36
matt3940gmailhi does any one know how to get ubuntu one to work with ubuntu 10,4 licid tls05:36
matt_.join #xbmc05:36
DrPenguinthen I cant help you05:36
matt_hey05:36
matt_wtf05:36
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Albinoman887there we go05:36
Albinoman887whats up everyone05:36
thechrisDrPenguin: it does seem like someone is setting -Werror=... though05:36
Albinoman887getting excited for edit05:36
DrPenguinthechris: frankly, i dont care. if your not gonna show me it, then im not interested05:36
blackboxyes like if I say in my bash script alias name="nick"05:37
blackboxecho $name shows nothing should show value nick05:38
DrPenguinblackbox: you need to sett the name variable, thats not a variable05:38
DrPenguinjust do name=nick05:39
matt3940gmaildoes any one know anything about ubuntu one05:39
blackboxwhat ? sett05:39
DrPenguins/sett/set/05:39
blackboxo you mean declare a variable then have the alias point to that variable05:40
DrPenguinno!05:40
DrPenguinyou dont use alias's as variables05:40
blackboxwell , I was trying to make this script object orientated with alias myobject.string1=05:41
balleyneHTML5 video is working fine for the first user on my Ubuntu machine, but not for the second user or guest user. Same results when creating new profiles (works for first user, not second or guest), running in safe-mode. No add-ons installed (besides the default Ubuntu ones) for users without working HTML5... Chromium HTML5 video works fine for all users. Help?05:42
blackboxtheir has to be away to print out the value of an alias05:42
DrPenguinalias -p yourAlias05:42
DrPenguinright in the man page..05:42
DrPenguinso, you sir, are the lucky recipient of an RTFM yell05:43
blackboxyes but that list them all I kind of want to just echo the alias05:43
DrPenguinthen use something like grep or cut to filter05:43
blackboxthink I found it , I think if I use shopt -s expand_aliases05:43
DrPenguini need to wear my RTFM shirt more often.05:45
thechris!implicit-function-declarations05:47
DrPenguinthechris: thats a C thing, not an ubuntu thing05:48
xanguaballeyne: so by html5 you mean ogg/theora format¿05:49
balleynexangua: having this problem with Theora and WebM HTML5 video05:51
xanguaballeyne: have you installed extra codecs for chromium¿ chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra05:51
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jameswhi.. would someone please help me get my java working? i've tried everything I can think of and googled a lot. Ubuntu 11.04 64bit. Intending to use sun-java latest (6)05:53
balleynexangua: it works in Firefox for one user though, and Chromium for all users... will check that package05:53
DrPenguinjamesw: wel it would be nice if you told us what was wrong05:54
jameswDrPenguin: when I go to any website using java it just says Missing Plugin or "java is not working" etc05:54
brophatisn't there an app called desktop when you click it all own windows will minimize?05:54
jameswin chromium and firefox05:54
xanguaballeyne: so it's firefox the one that doesn't work with¿¿05:54
DrPenguinjamesw: can we make sure java is working first? open a terminal.. can you type javac and have it spit at you a bunch of flags?05:55
* xangua doesn't like to guess05:55
jameswDrPenguin: yep javac spits out all the help05:55
DrPenguinok.. thats a good sign.. you might be missing a java plugin for the browser05:56
jamesw$ java -version: - java version "1.6.0_26"05:56
balleynexangua: I have two configured users on my machine: balleyne and heather. Works fine in FF for balleyne (even when creating a new FF profile), doesn't work for heather (even when creating a new FF profile) or for the guest user. Chromium works for all05:56
mebigfatguy_thats not the latest btw05:56
balleynexangua: also tried safe mode, same results05:56
mebigfatguy_(java) 6.30 is05:57
yvemathwell, that is a little bit of selfishness out there.05:57
mebigfatguy_java manual install: this is good (works for 6 too) http://www.shinephp.com/install-jdk-7-on-ubuntu/05:57
matt3940gmailyvemath: why is that05:57
jameswmebigfatguy_: i am using latest from repo05:57
jameswshould i upgrade beyond latest in repo?05:57
mebigfatguy_jamesw, i see05:57
jameswmanually05:58
xanguaballeyne: so both users use the same fx version¿ usgin downloaded version of firefox.com and other user the system install¿05:58
yvemathmatt3940gmail: read what balleyne said, and match the nickname ff works properly with.05:58
mebigfatguy_sounds like ubuntu is removing sun jdk from repos at some point any way05:58
mebigfatguy_(plugin) at least05:58
thechrisDoes anyone know if ubuntu's gcc sets -Werror-implicit-function-declaration someplace?05:58
thechrisI've been trying to install the rt2870 modules, and they don't build05:59
DrPenguinthechris: that has nothing to do with "ubuntus" gcc05:59
DrPenguinits the make file05:59
thechrisThere is a warning about implicit function declarations, which then becomes an error.05:59
DrPenguinthechris:  theres probably a "good" reason why the makers of the module set that to be an error, dont disable it05:59
balleynexangua: system install, stock Ubuntu 11.10 FF 8.005:59
Vivekanandahello everyone,I have dell inspiron 600m (no webcam) running lucid latest.Trying to install ipwebcam(an android market app to turn phone into webcam) and it requires v4l2loopback.Not able to install05:59
thechrisI've tried to find the offending lines and remove them, but this hasn't worked./06:00
zeroHello, guys06:00
r_tarandushihi.06:00
jameswthank you, this guide is prettier http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-jdk-in.html06:00
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thechrisI'm assuming that if this option was meant to be set, then someone at ralink would have seen the issue.06:00
thechrisWhich makes me think the issue is with something in ubuntu's setup06:01
DrPenguinthechris no.. its meant to stop the compilation if your missing headers06:01
DrPenguinthecrhis nope, your wrong06:01
matt3940gmailGuest67304: hi06:01
thechristhere are a lot of .o.cmd files, but I think these are generated by the makefile and not used by the makefile06:01
Flatlinedthechris : Firmware?06:01
Guest67304Who knows the differences between SysV services and upstart service?06:02
thechrisFlatlined: this is the rt2870sta kernel module06:02
matt3940gmailGuest67304: hi06:02
thechristhe source is on a computer that doens't have internet access, which makes this a bit more difficult06:03
Guest67304matt3940gmail, hi06:03
Tio90I just installed Anjuta (IDE for c++) ,from deb package.. but i dont know where its located and i can't find it. help me06:03
xanguaTio90: type anjuta on the dash¿06:04
balleyneTio90: `which anjuta`06:04
balleyneTio90: are you trying to run Anjuta? Or find out where it's installed?06:04
Guest67304Anyone knows the differences between System-V and upstart service?06:05
Tio90balleyne: both06:05
Flatlinedthechris : you need the firmware06:05
Tio90`which anjuta` dont give me any results06:05
almoxarifethechris:  You may be required to blacklist the in-tree rt2800usb driver to allow your device to be claimed by rt2870sta. http://wiki.debian.org/rt2870sta06:06
Vivekanandahello06:06
balleyneTio90: typing that from the command line, right? if there's no results, that means it's not on the path... you could check in /opt, /usr/bin/, /usr/local/bin, you could 'dpkg --list | grep anjuta' to see the installation state06:06
balleynenot sure off the top of my head how to check a .deb file to see what location it's supposed to unpack to, but I'm sure that's possible too06:06
matt3940gmailhellow06:06
Guest67304As I know till now ubuntu didn't support vdsm which has already supported on redhat distribution, do you guys have some advice or suggestion?06:07
almoxarifeballeyne: synaptic does it swell06:07
MetroshicaI'm currently writing a bash script that creates a tarball, and I wasn to name it Archive(date).tgz, where date would be a timestamp. What would be the easiest way to timestamp something in a bash script?06:07
blackboxno luck is their any way to echo what an alias is pointing to?06:07
blackboxin bash06:08
almoxarifeballeyne: synaptic does it swell,............. I take that back, only on 'installed' packages06:08
DrPenguinblackbox: use tools you already have.. like grep or cut06:08
almoxarifeblackbox: what's the terminal method to do the equiv of opening a file by a text editor?06:10
thechrisalmoxarife: I can't build rt2870sta at the moment.  something sets a gcc option and I can't seem to unset it06:10
DrPenguinthechris: maybe you should find out what headers are missing?06:10
almoxarifethechris: let me see if I understand this, you have a laptop with builtin wifi?06:11
blackboxare you saying nano or something like Leafpad?06:11
thechrisalmoxarife: i have a working laptop with wifi, and a broken desktop with wifi06:11
thechrisalmoxarife: desktop with broken wifi06:11
almoxarifethechris: the rt... thing is usb?06:12
thechrisalmoxarife: the rt2870 modules appear to be needed, but they no longer build06:12
thechrisyes usb06:12
almoxarifethechris: the desktop has wifi card or onboard?06:13
MetroshicaI'm currently writing a bash script that creates a tarball, and I wasn to name it Archive(date).tgz, where date would be a timestamp. What would be the easiest way to timestamp something in a bash script?06:13
thechrisdesktop has the usb, laptop has internal06:13
Tio90i think i have just crushed the repository, how to get it back to default? coz my apt-get update give me 404 errors06:13
thechrisalmoxarife: desktop=usb=broken, laptop=internal=working06:13
helli0nhello all06:13
DrPenguinMetroshica: the date command?>06:13
almoxarifethechris: where are you wanting this usb to work? desktop I assume06:14
almoxarifethechris: the desktop has wifi card or onboard wifi?06:14
MetroshicaDrPenguin, yes, I'm not too experienced with it in bash scripting though. Could you give me a good example of how I could name a tar output using the timestamp, or point me in the direction of a good article? My googling of the subject is coming up short06:14
CarlFKMetroshica: TIMESTAMP=$(date +%m_%d_%H_%M_%S)06:15
DrPenguinMetroshica: I could probably hack something together real quick… what do you want to include in the time stamp?06:15
MetroshicaDrPenguin, I'd like the output of a tar command to contain it. So for example tar cvzf Example(date here).tgz /path/to/dir06:15
CarlFKMetroshica: that's from a script... I am guessing you want: mv foo.tgz $(date +%m_%d_%H_%M_%S)06:15
thechrisalmoxarife: the desktop will have the wifi usb adaptor that currenlty doesn't work06:16
matt3940gmailok this sound stupid but to talk to someone you have ton type ther nick in every time you say something to them06:16
almoxarifethechris: the desktop has wifi card or onboard wifi?06:16
DrPenguinMetroshica: thats not te ansqer to my question, I want to know WHAT do you want to be in the timestamp.. like dd/mm/yy/_hh/mm or what?06:16
MetroshicaCarlFK, yea, that could work as well, I'd like to know if it's possible to put it in the actual tar command, but if not I could use it in a mv command06:16
thechrismatt3940gmail: most irc clients support tab completion.  eg ma[tab] will complete your name06:16
almoxarifethechris: it's a yes or no question06:16
MetroshicaDrPenguin, ah ok, sorry, dd/mm/yy/_hh would be fine06:16
CarlFKMetroshica: yes - I was wondering why you wanted it in 2 steps06:17
thechrismatt3940gmail: no, but it highlights the line on the receipients screen06:17
DrPenguinMetroshica: then you could just make a variable using the date command and feed that to tar as the parameter for the tarball name06:17
thechrismatt3940gmail: that way your replies are less likely to get lost in the noise06:17
CarlFKMetroshica: what is your tar command now?06:17
matt3940gmailthechris: ok cool that helps06:17
almoxarifethechris: alrighty then, I will let you plink along06:17
MetroshicaDrPenguin, exactly, and that's where I'm stuck. I'm embarassed but I don't know exactly how to feed in a bash variable to a tar command06:18
balleynematt3940gmail: also might trigger an alert that a message is being directed to the user in their IRC client, when you mention their username06:18
DrPenguinMetroshica: VARIABLE=varcontents, tar czvf $VARIABLE dirToTar06:18
MetroshicaCarlFK, it would be tar cvzf Something(date).tgz /path/to/dir06:18
thechrisalmoxarife: that wasn't a yes/no question.  i'll go with no = usb06:18
MetroshicaDrPenguin, ah ok, is it that easy? didn't know that06:18
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MetroshicaDrPenguin, and then the carvontents, what would be the exact syntax using the date command?06:19
MetroshicaDrPenguin, varcontents*06:19
DrPenguinMetroshica: something like VARIABLE=`date +%D_%H` would give you the date _ Hour06:19
CarlFKMetroshica: echo tar cvzf Something\($(date +%m_%d_%H_%M_%S)\).tgz /path/to/dir  => tar cvzf Something(12_30_00_19_35).tgz /path/to/dir06:19
MetroshicaDrPenguin, CarlFK perfect, both of those commands will work fine, thanks for the help.06:20
matt3940gmailballeyne: do u use a linux machine only i am looking for a good windows emmulator06:21
xuser1hi:)06:22
matt3940gmailxuser1: hi06:22
balleynematt3940gmail: I rarely use Windows, but VirtualBox is a FLOSS virtual machine that will let you run Windows inside a virtual machine inside Ubuntu. You can install VirtualBox from the Ubuntu Software Centre.06:22
xuser1can i move gnome 3 panel from top to bottom ?06:23
xuser1:-D06:23
thechrissweet, found where i could set the cflags in one of the make files06:23
balleynematt3940gmail: or, you can check out Wine, which lets you run some Windows applications from GNU/Linux (rather than running the whole operating system, like with VirtualBox06:23
Tio90I have a problem when i updating cache, it stuck on 94% , i have chose the best repo server, whats wrong06:25
matt3940gmailballeyne: ok i will try that i have 3 programs that do not support linux i tryed wine but so far no luck i am out of my ellemt here in linux i was preety good with windows but after vista i begain to hate it06:25
ipv6hermithi everybody, I'm trying to setup a DNS server under ubuntu, but I'm having trouble with some functionality named complains it can't modify or create files because the permissions are denied.   I checked and the permissions seem to be ok.  could it apparmor bothering me?06:25
balleynematt3940gmail: ok, try VirtuaBox. Might take some effort to set up (you have to install Windows inside the virtual machine), but search the web for tutorials, and once you get it running you'll be able to run those programs inside the virtual machine no problem.06:27
Tio90balleyne : http://postimage.org/image/clm2e1mv1/06:28
balleyneTio90: weird... what does your /etc/apt/sources.list file say? maybe there's an incorrect entry or something? not sure06:29
mohsinhijazeeJust a quick question, Lenovo G570, how well it runs ubuntu? Any issues with Wifi, BlueTooth or Cam?06:29
Octanemohsinhijazee i think itll run beautifull06:29
Octaney06:29
Octanewifi bluetooth and cam work out of the box pretty much06:29
thechrishmm, seems that actually was an error.  guess my wifi is no longer supported06:30
matt3940gmailballeyne: ok i am now on a search for a windows os to give it i used vbon my windows maching so i kina know whats going on with it but in the fusteration a week ago i formatted my hd windows bye bye06:30
thechrisOctane: oh the irony06:30
mohsinhijazeeOctan you have been using? or any online list maintained by Ubuntu about compatibility?06:30
balleynematt3940gmail: it's easier to reinstall anyways. Do you have a Windows install CD?06:31
LogicallyDashingI changed the root password. It said, "Password updated successfully". But I can't log in with it, and if I run passwd again, it doesn't ask for my current password.06:31
Tio90balleyne : btw i'm in ubuntu 10.04 , i saw this in sources.list " deb-src http://ubuntu.oss.eznetsols.org/ubuntu/ lucid main restricted " .. what is it?06:32
matt3940gmailno vista did not come with one but before i formatted i copped the whole dv to my ext hd so in might be able to recreate it from ther but i would like to find a free xp out ther some were06:33
matt3940gmailballeyne: sorry forgot to tag that one06:34
balleyneTio90: not sure, restricted would be the proprietary/non-libre software section of lucid main I think, not sure if the location is a valid Ubuntu mirror or not. Is it similar to the other lines in the file?06:34
Tio90balleyne : http://pastebin.com/TuiQzBGu06:35
balleynematt3940gmail: I prefer xp over vista myself06:35
matt3940gmailballeyne: ok one thing with ubuntu 10 . 4 how do i get it to stop asking for password every time i go to install something fromsoftware center06:37
Tio90always be a root?06:37
balleynematt3940gmail: usually it remembers your password for at least a little while? like, 5 or 10 minutes at least, I think? I'm on 11.10 though.06:37
balleyneTio90: I'm not sure, but that last line looks a little wonky, too many parts to it... might also make sense if you said it was failing at 94% (i.e. towards the end)?06:38
Tio90yeah it failed, incomplete update06:39
matt3940gmailballeyne: ok when you go to a diffren verision ex.10.4  to 11.10 will i loose all my data06:39
balleyneTio90: I have separate lines for multiverse, universe and main restricted in my 11.10 sources.list...06:39
MrHacksHey, guy. I think I touched something I shouldn't have.  During my oneric update, I kept seeing a message saying 'xset could not find display ""' so I went to a forum to see if it was some sort of error (on another computer, obviously) concerned it might be an error. It wasn't really, and someone had the idea of using "sudo xset dpms off" to fix the bug but at the end of the upgrade, this message showed up several times, so I type06:40
balleynematt3940gmail: nope, upgrades are pretty smooth, but you can't skip versions (so you'd have to upgrade three times, 10.04 => 10.10 => 11.04 => 11.10)06:40
balleynematt3940gmail: I started out with 6.06 for awhile, as the LTS in 2007, then went through a series of upgrades to catch up to the regular releases after a few months... probably worth it, unless you really need the stabilty of an LTS (12.04 is supposed to be an LTS anyways, I think)06:41
DrPenguinMrHacks: xset dpms off would just disable power management features for the monitor06:41
Flannelballeyne, matt3940gmail: you can go LTS to LTS, so you can upgrade directly from 10.04 to 12.04 (when it's out)06:41
Tio90so how may i solve this?06:42
MrHacksDrPenguin: How to I make the screen work like it did such that if I move the mouse around the backlight turns back on as well as the LCD?06:42
balleyneFlannel: good to know!06:42
balleyneTio90: here's my sources.list: http://pastebin.com/fvqF403x06:42
DrPenguinMrHacks: turn dpms back on06:42
paulsomebodyHello, everyone.06:42
balleyneTio90: if I were you, I'd backup your sources.list, then try to edit it and split out that security line into three separate lines, like mine06:43
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paulsomebodyI cannot switch computer off from the LightDM. What can be wrong?06:43
matt3940gmailFlannel: ok i am a total noob so do i go to ubuntu.com an down load a nre ver or is ther a gui some were i have not seen06:43
MrHacksDPMS was enabled, DrPenguin. the problem is I chaged something I shouldn't have I think. are you sure that 'sudo xset dpms on' will fix everything?06:44
VivekanandaHello everyone ! cannot install v4l2loopback kernel module in lucid on a comp with no webcam.Any suggestions?06:44
DrPenguinMrHacks: how should I know? if you changed more than you just told me then Id have no idea how to fix ur issue06:45
MrHacksAt one point, I though I could remedy it with 'sudo xset dpms standby' (assuming that standby means the same as hibernate)06:45
Doodiehi, how so i ping data of certain size like 1024 etc???06:46
thechrisanyone know how to get an asus usb-n53 to work?06:46
Flannelmatt3940gmail: What do you mean?  You download from ubuntu.com, yes.06:46
DrPenguinDoodie: RTFM! its right in pings manpage06:46
balleynematt3940gmail: If you don't want to wait for 12.04 and want to go through 10.10 and 11.04 to 11.10, you would go to System > Administration > Update Manager I believe. You have to make sure that under System > Administration > Softwware Sources, it's set to notify of normal releases and not just LTS06:46
Doodieok06:47
thechrisI've gotten rt2870sta installed, but i don't have a wlan0 or ra006:47
DrPenguinthechris: did you load the module?06:47
DrPenguinand did you actually build it right vs disablingg it failing when your missing headers?06:47
balleyneTio90: like change the last line to http://pastebin.com/sp6nLERQ ?06:47
thechristhere was something on google that said there was now support in the kernel for this, but didn't elaborate06:48
thechrisrt2800usb doesn't work06:48
matt3940gmailFlannel: no installed off a live usb but yes i got the iso for the use from ubuntu.com06:49
Flannelmatt3940gmail: then you're fine.  Don't need to do anything.06:49
Flatlinedthechris : you need the firmware06:49
thechrisFlatlined: as far as I can tell, i have it.06:49
syddrafCompiz Grid and Compiz Put are not recognizing any commands. Does anyone know of a way to fix this?06:49
DoodieDrPenguin, if i ping huge data to an address will that slowdown the internet speed of that address?06:50
DrPenguinDoodie: um.. what do you think?06:50
DrPenguinmore data means your consuming more bandwidth..06:50
DoodieDrPenguin, i think yes06:50
thechrisFlatlined: do you have any specific information about where to get the firmware, and what to do with it when I get it?06:51
balleynematt3940gmail: ubuntu.com download is for new installs, Update Manager for upgrades06:51
Flatlinedthechris : unplug the adaptor and post your "dmesg" to paste bin06:52
thechrisFlatlined: i got the rt2860 firmware and the rt2870 firmware and placed both .bin files in /lib/firmware06:52
thechrisFlatlined: agian, no internet access.  the dmesg is pretty short though06:52
Flatlinedaptitude install firmware-ralink wireless-tools06:52
SachinDeywhere may I get these pakages "QtCore;QtGui;QtXml"06:53
DrPenguinSachinDey: in ubuntus repo?06:53
thechrisFlatlined: "rtusb init --->"06:53
SachinDeythere is no such packages DrPenguin06:53
thechrisFlatlined: 'usbcore: registered new interface device rt2870"06:53
DrPenguinSachinDey: I doubt that06:53
matt3940gmailballeyne: ok now i see i checked for new uddates last night and it sayed i was up to date but i just looked and i was set on lts only so i am going to set it to normal06:54
Flatlinedthechris : http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=firmware-ralink06:54
DukerFreshly installed apache, could only run sudo to install in admin account, does that mean the server will have root access? Trying to get everyone on a standard users home folder06:55
balleyneyep, then it will notify you about 10.10, upgrade will take a few hours for each though06:55
Dukereverything*06:55
balleynematt3940gmail: see message above for you06:55
liningwpoof06:56
lining没仍06:56
matt3940gmailballeyne: it says 10.10 is available will the comp. shut down during or after the upgrade06:56
Guest67304Hi, guys. Who knows the differences between SysV services and upstart service?06:57
clear`how can i complete remove gnome-shell06:57
lining???06:57
treskHi, my Ubuntu doesn't activate my wifi network anymore. Nevertheless, the card is listed in 'lspci' ?06:58
lining21106:58
Chr|sbeen having some issues with my monitor going to sleep and wont wake back up did this to both ubuntu and xubuntu, anyone have any ideas?06:58
syddrafIs there a way to reset compiz to its defaults? purging and reinstalling did nothing.06:59
mebigfatguy_Chr|s, sure it's not just your monitor dying?06:59
Chr|syeah Im pretty sure06:59
balleynematt3940gmail: shut down after, it usually takes me 1.5 hours for the download portion and half an hour for the upgrade portion of the whole thing, give or take 20 minutes07:00
treskfyi, the wifi card worked fine before. I guess, Ubuntu booted once without the card being installed. Maybe I have to rescann the hardware?07:00
Chr|smebigfatguy_, had windows on it earlier today, worked fine. installed ubuntu and when the monitor goes to sleep, I have to manually restart the computer07:00
balleyneGuest67304: you've been trying a few times with that question, wish I could help. Have you tried any other IRC channels, maybe more specific to the question? It's possible that folks in #ubuntu right now don't know enough to help... *shrugs*07:01
ok_waithey guys, i'm having a problem with the gnome-tweak-tool in oneiric. it only changes the window title font in the fonts tab. seems to be a bug, anyway i'm trying to 'workaround' this and was wondering if this is a normal looking ~/.fonts.conf file http://pastie.org/309446507:01
balleynematt3940gmail: gotta run, best of luck07:01
matt3940gmailballeyne: ok thanks07:01
mebigfatguy_Chr|s, k, i had that problem, my monitor died eventually07:01
matt3940gmaildoes any one know were i can download a free xp os from for dual booting07:02
treskIs there a way to rescann the linux hardware and let Ubuntu reconfigure the wifi drivers?07:02
Guest67304balleyne, okey...thanks. :)07:03
ok_waitcould one of you match your ~/fonts.conf file with this one http://pastie.org/3094465 and see if it's way off or similar?07:05
ok_wait~/.fonts.conf07:05
ok_waitanybody?07:11
ok_waitis there a way to manually edit fonts configurations to do what gnome-tweak-tool isn't doing?07:22
treskwhy I can't play Flash movies in Epiphany07:22
DrPenguincause your missing flash?07:23
treskBut flash is installed.. works with firefox and Opera07:23
DrPenguindoes epiphany say missing flash plugin?07:23
spacebug-ok_wait: to answers your first question. My config is different in that I use 'hintslight' instead of 'hintmedium' in section 'hintstyle'07:24
treskyes it does?!07:24
DrPenguinok then it doesnt see your plugin07:24
treskisn't epiphany using the firefoy path?07:24
ok_waitthanks spacebug-07:24
DrPenguinwhy would it?07:24
treskso I have to reinstall flash via software center?07:25
almoxarifetresk: firefox and opera see flash?07:26
treskalmostroot: yes they do07:27
thechrisI'm having issues getting an ASUS USB-N53 to work in ubuntu 11.1007:27
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jerichowasahoaxI have a problem with my email server setup (on Lucid) - email addresses can receive things perfectly fine but Thunderbird gives error 10061 when I try to send. My GMail account sends fine so it's not my end. Anyone have any ideas?07:27
jerichowasahoaxI'm using Postfix, if that matters07:27
thechrisWhen using the rt2800usb modules, no AP's are listed, and scanning doesn't work07:27
thechrisI have the current firmware installed.07:27
thechrisI've patched and compiled the rt2870 kernel module07:28
treskI reinstall 'flashplugin-installer 11.1.102.55ubuntu0.11.1'07:28
almoxarifetresk: then re-installing flash will just place flash where its already avail, what version of epiphany you using?07:28
thechrisWhen I modprobe rt2870sta, I don't get any ra0 or wlan0.07:28
treskalmostroot: 3.0.407:28
thechrisI don't think the usbkey is detected when I use that module.07:29
treskreinstalling flash package was unsuccessful07:29
flexiblethechris, hey what is the chip of your wireless device?07:29
gluesniffmonkeymatt3940gmail, not for dual booting but in a virtual machine: http://tinyurl.com/6m5u3pt07:30
thechrisflexible: according the google "probably rt2800 or rt2870sta"07:30
flexibleif it is the same as mine, or similar, you may have to compile from source like i do07:30
thechrisflexible: so I'm guessing 2860 or 287007:30
flexibleis it USB or pci?07:30
thechrisflexible: I've tried that, but thus far it hasn't worked.  I've patched the kernel module and built07:30
gluesniffmonkeyThe NIST machines work well in virtualbox07:30
thechrisflexible: usb07:30
flexibledid you blaclist rt2800pci and rt2800usb?07:31
xonixI putted a SD-Card into my card reader and paritioned the sd card but why can i not mount the devices dm-0p1? There not exist under /dev https://gist.github.com/153847807:31
thechrisflexible: yes07:31
jerichowasahoaxah, sending from Alpine on the server itself works, but not from the right host. This might be a problem.07:31
spacebug-ok_wait: now what did you mean gnome-tweak-tool did not set correctly?07:31
matt3940gmailgluesniffmonkey: cool thanks i will check that out07:32
almoxarifetresk: read and heed http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2011-May/msg00001.html07:32
thechrisflexible: when you use rt2870sta, do you get more than "rtusb init --->" and "usbcore: registered new interface driver rt2870"?07:32
thechrisI only get those two messages07:32
imprintI was advised to uninstall my adobe flash player from hulu tech support to reinstall a 32 bit wrapper, now my computer will not play any thing, nothing on youtube or crackle, what do I do?07:33
almoxarifeimprint: undo what hulu told you to do07:33
imprintI tried07:33
gluesniffmonkeyMetasploit Unleashed course shows how to use: http://www.offensive-security.com/metasploit-unleashed/Metasploit_Unleashed_Information_Security_Training07:34
matt3940gmailgluesniffmonkey: one snag i got this err Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at downloadfdcc.nist.gov.07:34
imprintnothing works now07:34
bluekis where the  heroes3 map download ?for linux07:34
renc3Hi, with a 10.04 we had "lose" the menus (by example with vlc) ther's a display for their titles (media, edit etc) but no more scrolling down and no possibility to "clic" them.. Any idea about origine of this new illness and how to fix it?? thanks.07:34
imprintI tried to reinstall flash from the software center and from adobe, nothing works07:35
almoxarifeimprint: how did you install/remove what hulu told you to do? exactly07:35
imprintthey had me do it from terminal07:35
imprintand from software center07:36
gluesniffmonkeymatt3940gmail, seems the site has changed name: http://usgcb.nist.gov/usgcb/microsoft/download_winxp.html07:36
almoxarifeimprint: do you have the history? share it07:36
almoxarifeimprint: paste.bin it07:36
imprintMonte, Dec-29 01:49 pm (PST):Hi John,07:37
imprintI apologize for the inconvenience. Unfortunately Hulu.com is not currently compatible with the 64bit alpha version of Flash for Linux. In Hulu Desktop, however, we do some special maneuverings to make it work. As a 64-bit Linux user, you can still use Hulu.com -- but you will need to install the wrapper 32-bit version of Flash. Also, try uninstalling you Flash Player and download version 10.3.07:37
imprintMore information about that can be found below:07:37
imprintFor Fedora: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash#32_bit_wrapped_version07:37
imprintFor Ubuntu: http://landofthefreeish.com/linux/howto-installing-flash-player-10-on-64-bit-linux/07:37
FloodBot1imprint: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.07:37
FunGoatclear07:38
almoxarifeimprint: I am not interested in how it can be done, I was hoping to walk you thru undoing what was done07:38
gluesniffmonkeymatt3940gmail, http://csrc.nist.gov/fdcc/download_fdcc.html07:39
bluekno clear ,is /clear,you must add /07:39
gluesniffmonkeymatt3940gmail, at bottom of page.07:39
almoxarifeimprint: join #xbmc please07:40
matt3940gmailgluesniffmonkey: ok i might haveto do somr readingv to understand what to do what that type of file i am used to iso immages07:41
renc3any idea about our "menu lose" problem @ 8h14???  thanks07:42
thechrisdoes anyone know what is required to scan for wireless networks?07:43
thechrisThus far, I can't get anything.07:43
thechrisI just now got rt2780sta to load.  I now have ra0.  but still iwlist scan doesn't work07:44
imprintI got kicked off fot typing07:44
imprinthow can I explain07:44
treskalmostroot: thanks. I try it that way .07:44
almoxarifeimprint: don't do that here either07:44
gluesniffmonkeymatt3940gmail, They are Windows Virtual Hard Disks. You will need wine in Ubuntu and WinRar to Unzip.07:44
imprintyou want to see what happened, how do I explain without typing?07:45
gluesniffmonkeymatt3940gmail, After that they run in Virtualbox or VMware07:45
thechrisimprint: for large messages, you typically need to use a pastebin service (google for one) and then post a link here07:45
imprinthttp://landofthefreeish.com/linux/howto-installing-flash-player-10-on-64-bit-linux/07:46
imprinthow does pastebin work?07:46
bobsterHello fellow freedom seekers! If anyone can help me I would be most grateful. I am running 11.10 on my usb as I type, and I want to make it my main OS. I cannot see an icon on the desktop to Install it however.. and im stuck. Any advice would be fantastic!07:46
almoxarifeimprint: you don't flood the channel, you don't give me links, you give me the info I asked for, like exactly what you did with the information you were given, can you do that or have you forgotten since you did it?07:46
aBoundbobster, There's no icon shown on the top left that says: Install Ubuntu 11.10?07:47
imprinthttp://landofthefreeish.com/linux/howto-installing-flash-player-10-on-64-bit-linux/07:47
matt3940gmailgluesniffmonkey: ok it was talking it was only good up to 90 days but i think i can make it work07:47
imprintmy computer is jammed up bad07:47
imprintnever had a problem till now07:47
bobster@aBound - No mate, desktop is empty!07:48
imprinthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/787576/07:49
aBoundbobster, Could be an incomplete installation from the flash drive. What did you use to install Ubuntu onto your flash drive. Startup disk creator, unetbootin or something else?07:49
almoxarifeimprint: never had it till you made changes, care to share what changes were made without giving links to someone elses blurb about how to do it, you made the changes, I saw your paste.bin, perhaps someone else can help you07:49
bobsteraBound, I used the one recommended on the ubuntu website, startup disk creator i think!07:50
renc3imprint: when you go on pastbin site.. you get a numeber... this number ls the part of the adress you give to your friends... they can use it in order to retrieve the infos you 'd put on "your" pastbinr07:50
go9ers999sud rm -rf /07:50
almoxariferenc3: he did07:50
go9ers999hey wut hapens if i do this command sudo rom -rf /07:50
go9ers999can someone try it it wont work on my ubuntu07:51
go9ers999sudo rm -rf /07:51
go9ers999please07:51
DrPenguingtfo07:51
DrPenguinthats stupid and potentially harmful07:51
aBoundbobster, Did you edit anything on start up creator if you remember. By the way does your system support the architecture.07:51
go9ers999hey linux sucks07:52
go9ers999you cant even play games on it lol07:52
almoxarifego9ers999: boy, that was stupid.07:52
imprinthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/787581/07:52
go9ers999you get what you pay for07:52
go9ers999use a real os07:52
go9ers999developed by real programmers07:52
go9ers999not ammateur hobbyists lmao07:52
Libsterlol07:52
DrPenguintrollolol07:52
bobsterthis is as real as it gets you numpty07:52
aBoundbobster, By the way which version of Ubuntu was it for?07:52
Flannelgo9ers999: Please stop.07:52
go9ers999nobody uses linux except asspies07:52
go9ers999most programers use windows cause most programs awr written for windows07:53
almoxarifego9ers999: did you have a question? :)07:53
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DrPenguinpwned07:53
imprinthttp://landofthefreeish.com/linux/howto-installing-flash-player-10-on-64-bit-linux/07:53
bobsteraBound - it was 11.10, on a Toshiba Satellite pro L300 - i didnt edit a thing! i just realised the usb stick i used was 1gb... could that be why?07:53
imprintmy computer seems damaged07:54
almoxarifeand he's back07:54
almoxarifego9ers999: did you have a question? :)07:54
go9ers999most program are written for windows cause most ppl use windows ur all just a bunch of asspies that think if somethings really difficult to use it must be a badge of ur asspergers/nerd status07:54
go9ers999but its hard to learn because its a really shitty os lul07:54
aBoundbobster, I doubt it seeing as Ubuntu 11.10 is only about 600 to 700MBs.07:55
Libsterlol07:55
go9ers999windows is easy cause its programmed by professionals07:55
go9ers999hence why u cando basic shit liek play games on it lul07:55
go9ers999ubuntu is at least 20 years behind windows07:55
almoxarifego9ers999: did you have a question? :) about english?07:55
bobstergo9ers, im trying to have a conversation here... so if you dont mind stfu please?07:55
go9ers999okay im sorry07:55
go9ers999i have a drinking problem07:55
bobsterso do i07:55
imprintI tried to show you what changes I made07:55
almoxarifeme too :) drinking problem, is there an app for that?07:56
thechrisFor my usb wifi "Key1Str is Invalid key length(0) or Type(0)"07:56
go9ers999my grandma died yesterday07:56
go9ers999and im having a hard time07:56
Libsterthat sucks im sorry07:57
jerichowasahoaxI can't send email from external addresses: Thunderbird throws the following error:07:57
jerichowasahoaxAn error occurred sending mail: The mail server sent an incorrect greeting:  Cannot connect to SMTP server my.ip.goes.here (my.ip.goes.here:587), connect error 10061.07:57
jerichowasahoaxTBird can send through GMail fine so it's my server07:57
its_meHi, does Ubuntu support Gnome 3?07:57
bobsterif thats true, sorry for your loss, but that doesnt entitle you to come here an be abusive to everyone else does it?07:57
jerichowasahoaxI'm using Postfix on 10.04 LTS, does anyone know how to fix this?07:57
aBoundbobster, Could of been a bad install.07:57
its_meI mean, Ubuntu 11.10, does it support Gnome 3?07:57
almoxarifefor the love of god and the angels, can someone pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee make go9ers999 go hasta luego!07:57
aBoundits_me, Gnome 3 as in gnome-shell?07:57
go9ers999its me: lol why dont u google it u retard07:57
go9ers999or RTFM07:57
go9ers999n00b07:58
DrPenguinwill someone kick this SoB07:58
bobsteryeah please07:58
go9ers999drpenguin im sorry i have a drinking problem i just explained07:58
bobsterdoing my head in trying to get advice lol07:58
go9ers999are u fucking daft07:58
its_meaBound: I guess. I mean, the desktop interface that's Gnome 307:58
aBoundits_me, To install gnome-shell, sudo apt-get install gnome-shell.07:58
DrPenguindaft? rofl he must be british07:58
aBoundits_me, Gnome-shell will replace gnome 2.07:58
bobsterbritish?07:59
bobsteryou mean english07:59
its_meaBound: I already have Gnome 3 installed.07:59
DrPenguinisnt daft a british thing?07:59
OrvaJust popping for quick question: how you disable global alt-bind to show window menu in global menu bar?07:59
DrPenguinwhatever it is07:59
Orvakinda prevents using alt as modifier in all programs07:59
its_meaBound: My internet connection is dropping every now and then eversince I installed it07:59
bobsteryeah it is, northern england07:59
bobsteri apologise on behalf of the reprobates that make it onto the internet in my country.08:00
Flannelalright guys, it's taken care of, lets go ahead and move on :)08:00
DrPenguinyay!08:00
aBoundits_me, Are you sure it's gnome-shell causing the connection to drop. Could be a dozen other things.08:00
Libsterim a troll too btw08:00
Libstercan i get banned08:00
AbsolverGreetings. I've been having some issues with my Ubuntu box after upgrading to 11.10. Specifically, /var/run seems to have changed to /run, and some old scripts are still pointing there. Is this a familiar problem for anyone?08:01
Libsterplease08:01
Libsterplease08:01
FloodBot1Libster: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.08:01
DrPenguinDEATH08:01
its_meaBound: I have read many other people reporting the same, so...08:01
aBoundits_me, A wireless-b router is known t drop a bunch of connections but than again other things as others using the Internet can drop a connection.08:01
almoxarifefull moon tonight?08:01
bobster@aBound, looks like im going to have to give it another go with the usb install, thanks for the help08:01
aBoundits_me, Interesting I haven't had a single issue with gnome-shell dropping my connection.08:02
DrPenguinbobster: try the universal pen driver installer08:02
its_meaBound: no, mine is a wired connection08:02
AbsolverNot yet, almo. But it's christmas, some go crazy around then too. :P08:02
aBoundbobster, You can always give unetbootin a try.08:02
its_meaBound:  okay, I will contact my ISP and see...!08:02
bobsterhave a happy New Year everybody and keep up the good work!08:02
aBoundits_me, HA! That reminds me ISP's doing maintenance too.08:02
its_meooh, hmm..08:02
aBoundits_me, My connection drops sometimes at midnight due to ISP maintenance.08:03
jerichowasahoaxAbsolver: RE: /var/run being moved08:03
its_meaBound:  mine's dropping all day and all night08:03
jerichowasahoaxthere might be a better fix out there but you could just make "/var/run" a symlink to "/run"08:03
jerichowasahoaxor vice versa08:03
aBoundits_me, Did you install it today and it kept dropping? Or a few days ago.08:04
AbsolverYeah, I'm thinking of that, but something tends to make my neckhairs stand a bit on end about doing it, for some reason. I faintly remember something about "Don't do this" being told me at some point.08:04
its_meaBound: it's been like a month08:04
its_meAnd I guess, I don;t really remember... my internet connection got slower eversince08:05
aBoundits_me, Since you installed gnome-shell or since the net connection has been dropping?08:05
Matrixiumnhello08:05
jerichowasahoaxAbsolver: I always prepend my advice with disclaimers (unless explicitly told myself to do it at one point) for a reason.08:05
jerichowasahoaxbecause somehow someone always has a better way08:05
its_meaBound: (since I installed Gnome3)08:05
AbsolverHee. ;)08:05
aBoundits_me, A poor router can also drop the connection, you could try power-cycling the router.08:05
aBoundAhh...08:05
its_meyou mean, resetting?08:06
jerichowasahoaxAbsolver: Also assuming the permissions on both the link and the actual folder are the same, nothing obviously wrong about that jumps out at me aside from possible standards-noncompliance08:06
its_meaBound: you mean, resetting?08:06
AbsolverWhen it comes to routers, one of the primary reasons a router will drop connections is NAT table handling.08:06
AbsolverEither because they time out, or because NAT table space runs out and the oldest entries are recycled first.08:06
aBoundits_me, Indeed though some people use the term power cycle.08:07
Chr|sz  xc cc SD``08:07
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FloodBot1Chr|s: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.08:07
its_meokay... thanks08:07
aBoundits_me, Meaning unplug the router/cable and or/dsl modem for 30 seconds.08:07
Absolverjericho: Yeah, I figure I'll give it a spin. Certainly better than trying to bring the system fully up after a reboot/poweroutage.08:08
its_meaBound: you mean, the adapter/power cable08:08
its_meaBound: okay. I will be right back08:08
aBoundits_me, Power cord.08:08
aBound:P08:08
diverdudelol...it seems that if i in nautilus open window from server1 and another window for server2, mark and rag a directory from server1 to server2 that it goes via my workstation...how poorly designed. When i do scp i get normal speed08:08
Absolverdiverdude: That's the expected functionality. If you want to directly copy from server1 to server2, you need to do it from one of the above, not a middleman. ;)08:09
its_meaBound: okay, I'll be right back08:09
aBoundkk08:09
diverdudeAbsolver, why is it expected? There is no reason for nautilus to put it via my workstation08:10
AbsolverBecause you're asking a program running locally on your workstation to do the copying. Server1 doesn't know you are copying them to server2 because Nautilus is just asking it for file X, and Server2 doesn't know it's actually coming from server1, as it is just being fed a file by your workstation.08:11
diverdudeAbsolver, but nautilus knows that its logged in to both server1 and server2 so it should be smart enough to find a faster way08:12
thechrisdoes anyone know how to get iwlist scan to return results?08:14
DrPenguinis the adapter up?08:14
lingling2012is there a reason to run a virus protection service on ubuntu? if so what is a good one?08:15
AbsolverThere are a number of good reasons why it shouldn't, diverdude. Security for one - even if nautilus on your workstation knows its authorized to access both servers, the two servers are not by that reason alone authorized to speak to eachother. Second is SAD, or sane application design. Which means "Do what the user tells you, not what you think the user wants".08:16
AbsolverOn that note, reboot time to see if /var/run and /run wants to play together08:16
almoxarifelingling2012: lets assume you share files with a windows networked machine/s, you might want to insure what ever you are passing is clean?08:17
intokwhat can convert mp3 and ogg to .aax?08:17
diverdudeAbsolver, but what the user wants is to copy the files using the fastest connection. not the slowest08:17
almoxarifeintok: arista?08:18
nanobolicthechris, try iwlist <nameofaddapter> scan | less where <nameofadapter> is wlan0 or eth1 etc. etc.08:22
thechrisnanobolic: "no scan results"08:23
Matrixiumnbye08:23
nanobolicthechris, try sudi ifconfig ,nameofadapter> up in a terminal08:23
nanobolicthechris, sudo08:23
almoxarifeI have a sort of hybrid 11.10, ubuntu/kde-desktop, mostly kde now, what is the worse case scenario of using kdesudo instead of gksu? I did add a extension to kdm to account for gnome apps08:23
thechrisnanobolic: there's no ip configured08:24
nanobolicthechris, what version are you using?08:24
thechrisnanobolic: 11.10.  the problem occurs with both rt2800usb and rt2870sta08:25
thechrisso far the best i've found on google is "it just started working".08:26
nanobolicthechris, is there any firmware that you have to load?08:26
almoxarifethechris: thought about ndiswrapper with the win64 drivers?08:26
thechrisnanobolic: everyone keeps mentioning this firmware.  Other than placing files in /lib/firmware, i haven't done anything else08:26
DrPenguinthechris: when you run iwlist, what does it say08:27
sabocatI accidentally screwed up my home directory and can't login. Is there any way to reset it to the default configuration, or delete the user, and recreate that account?08:27
nanobolicthechris, do you have internet access on the device with the wireless card?08:29
thechrisnanobolic: no08:29
sokaksabocat, you can access a shell?08:29
sabocatI can from the install CD08:29
thechrisnanobolic: only with a second computer which also has wifi.  the second computer can scan for AP's and finds a few dozen08:30
nanobolicthechris, what about ethernet? can you plug a cable in?>08:30
sokakholding shift during boot doesnt lands you to recovery screen?08:30
almoxarifethechris: card or usb?08:30
sabocatHaven't tried that one min08:30
thechrisalmoxarife: usb08:30
sokaksabocat, if you can access a root shell youre on board. You can use adduser to add another working user.08:30
almoxarifethechris: specific usb, make model08:31
nanobolicthechris, sounds like you have to have linux-firmware installed to get it to work and possibly blacklist rt2800usb08:31
stickyboyIs there any way to not request a password when resuming from suspend?  I'm on Ubuntu 11.10 if it's relevant.08:31
sokakstickyboy, poke with the screensaver settings.08:31
thechrisnanobolic: i have linux firmware installed.  the issue persists with rt2870sta as well08:32
thechrisalmoxarife: asus usb-n5308:32
sabocatsokak: Do you happen to know the default root password?08:32
almoxarifenanobolic: he was told to blacklist it about an hour ago08:32
sokaksabocat, dropping to a root shell shouldnt request you any password at all ;)08:32
stickyboysokak: Thanks, but I believe those are only for screensaver... not resuming from suspend (sleep).08:33
tronthere is none, just sudo su08:33
sokakstickyboy, youre right, im trying to wakeup and find where that setting was08:33
sabocatsokak: Holding shift didn't change anything, still brought me to KDM08:33
sokaksabocat, at least until maverick, holding shift shall bring out the recovery screen :-)08:34
urlin2ustickyboy, 2nd post  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186170508:34
stickyboysabocat: The root user does not have a password, but you can become root via `sudo` if your user is in the admin group: sudo su -08:34
raptor67682hello world08:34
raptor67682a question08:34
stickyboyurlin2u: Ok, lemme take a look.08:34
thechrisalmoxarife: blacklisting it doesn't do anything other than allow the sta module to pick it up08:34
tronumm didnt i just say that?08:34
sokakyeah, if you can drop to textmode from grub screen that may work as well08:34
nanobolicthechris, try rmmod rt2800usb and rt2870sta and then modprobe rt2870sta08:34
sokak*yawns*08:34
nanobolicalmoxarife, oh08:35
thechrisnanobolic: like i said, that also doesn't work.  i get an ra0, but still "no results found"08:35
raptor67682how to play with sdlmame ?   I do :   sdlmame -rompath  /home/josh/games/myrom.zip       and sdlmame says that rom is not there. but it is there and whats going on? permission of the file myrom.zip is also ok08:35
stickyboyurlin2u: That looks like it'll work.  Cheers.08:35
thechrisnanobolic: though the dmesg shows that phy mode is set to 5 at the end.  In other people's dmesg it gets set to 908:36
sokakraptor67682, tried yet with any gui like QMC2?08:36
thechrisI'm really assuming the kernel module never turns on the tx/rx functions08:36
nanobolicthechris, can you pastebin  the results of lsmod08:36
tronthere any difference between upgrading to 11.10 and doing a fresh install of it?08:36
sokaktron, imho i always think that a fresh install is less clutter and faster08:36
sokak(also i broke my eeepc during an update and was having kernel panics - a plunge fixed it)08:37
trondo u still get unity?08:37
thechrisnanobolic: lsmod will either have rt2870sta with 1 device, or rt2800usb+rt2800lib+rt2x00usb+rt2x00lib, depending on if I blacklist rt2800 or not08:37
stickyboyI have never upgraded Ubuntu... I always clean install.  My /home is on a separate partition so it's really easy...08:37
sokaktron, yes, but i got rid of it because it was slow on my eee :) its a relic :)08:37
tronk thanks08:38
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sokakstickyboy, i totally agree with that, painless reinstall08:38
stickyboysokak: I do backup /etc and `dpkg -L > installed_pkgs.txt` etc... just in case I'm like "wtf did I do to get that thing setup?"08:39
blackshirtUpgrade works flawlesslly for me08:39
almoxarifethechris: your laptop connects to wifi?08:39
sokakstickyboy, thats good saying. Im still tryind to find again a one liner i had to dump to a .txt file my current package list08:39
nanobolicthechris, what does lshw -C network give? it should show something like configuration: broadcast=yes driver=rt2800usb firmware =0.2908:39
thechrisalmoxarife: yes, my laptop with internal wifi using some other module (not sure, it works) can connect to my AP, as well as see dozens more08:40
sokak*facepalms*08:40
sokakdpkg -L thats it08:40
sokak*kneels on glass chips08:40
stickyboysokak: Not so fast... it's actually `dpkg -l` :)08:41
sokakok dude, you can hammer me08:41
thechrisnanobolic: configuration: broadcast=yes driver=rt2800usb driverversion=3.0.0-12-generic firmware=0.29 link=no multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11abgn08:41
stickyboyI was the one who messed up... hehe.08:42
jerichowasahoaxI fixed my previous Postfix problem, but I have a new one - if I try to connect to my SMTP port, I get a timeout. I can still send messages locally so I know it *works*, it just won't accept external connections. It's not a firewall. What's wrong?08:42
blackshirtSokak, dpkg -L was listing installed files by package08:42
sokakohh, i shall try that one as well then :o08:42
sokakahh, tried and noticed08:43
nanobolicthechris, are you using just the terminal or are you using network manager? Looks like the rt2800usb is the driver that you should be using as from the forums it says the sta driver is depreciated.08:44
sokakI feel happy like that time i figured out an one liner to shutdown thunderbird, backup the profiles, and restart it :D08:44
thechrisnanobolic: both network manager and iwlist give no results08:45
nanobolicthechris, is this a usb or internel card?08:45
blackshirtLol08:45
thechrisnanobolic: the rt2800usb is a usb device08:46
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nanobolicthechris, what does /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf show?08:47
thechrisnanobolic: i've commented out the lines that blacklist the rt2870.  I've also rebooted.  rt2800usb and rt2800lib are listed in lsmod08:48
nanobolicthechris, what about iwconfig re0 power off and then iwconfig re0 power on08:52
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tronwhere do i extract flash to after i unzip it?08:53
bazhangtron, thats not how you install flash08:53
thechrisnanobolic: no change08:54
bazhangtron, use the package manager for that08:54
nanobolicthechris, another thing is see if you can iwlist re0 chan08:54
nanobolicthechris, or iwlist re0 freq08:55
thechrisit lists channels 1 to 14, 36 to 48, and 149 to 16508:56
azertyihello there08:56
thechrishello08:57
azertyii got an excel file which contain lots of links pointing to a website08:57
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hypeBoyhello, is there any irc client which supports split screens. irssi only supports horizonal splits is there any other such client which supports vertical splits?08:57
azertyifrom the shell how to exctract just only the link from that excel file ?08:57
thechrisazertyi: can you convert the file to a csv file?  that would make it easier08:58
bazhanghypeBoy, quassel has a "chat monitor" split screen08:58
thechrisazertyi: at that point you shoudl be able to use something like awk08:58
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becker_11hypeBoy: you can do that with irssi08:58
becker_11hypeBoy: they have a patched version check in #irssi08:58
tronbitchx > irssi08:59
raptor67682sokak: I would like to start it using konsole ...08:59
hypeBoybecker_11: thnx becker and bazhang08:59
sokakraptor67682, sorry, i wasnt paying attention, can you update me on what we were talking about?09:00
sokak*pokin on an smf admin panel*09:00
thechrisI've noticed that other ra2800usb devices seem to have a dmesg line about requesting firmware, while this one doesn't09:01
ActionParsnipthechris: is it not provided by the linux-firmware package09:01
raptor67682I would like to start a game using sdlmame from the konsole.  such as    : sdlmame myrom.zip09:01
belai can't delet  afolder in my external hard disck just iam using ubuntu 10.10 it syas"Hid_JavaDatabaseProgrammingwith JDBC.pdf." is there any help?09:02
thechrisActionParsnip: that's not my point.  I've installed all of the firmware, but I have no way to determine if any of it is actually being used.09:02
thechrisActionParsnip: it doens't claim that it failed to find firmware, or sucessfully loaded it09:03
thechrisalthough, i guess lshw did report a firmware version09:03
ActionParsnipraptor67682: is the folder containing sdlmame in $PATH, or you can make a script to make life easier09:03
thechrisrt2800usb doesn't really have any useful dmesg output.09:03
azertyiyes i just convert the file to .csv how to do now ? thechris09:03
raptor67682ActionParsnip: I do not understand what you mean with $PATH09:04
thechrisazertyi: i actually never leared awk, but that would be the easiest way.  I've always just written a python script09:04
ActionParsnipthechris: dmesg should say what firmware was used09:04
thechrisActionParsnip: it should, shouldn't it.09:04
ActionParsnipraptor67682: run:  echo $PATH   and you will see the folders09:04
thechrisI don't know if anyone else has ever even tried to get this to work in linux09:04
jerichowasahoaxI can't get my Postfix server to advertise STARTTLS. Google says this is because my user is unprivileged. How do I fix that?09:04
raptor67682  and what ? /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games09:04
ActionParsnipthechris: should is a wonderful word.  sudo lshw -C network    will show some firmware info09:05
thechrisActionParsnip: and that one does.  but dmesg never reported it.09:05
ActionParsnipraptor67682: is that the folder the binary is in?09:05
thechristhe issues is that I can't scan for AP's09:05
thechriseven though they do exist09:05
ActionParsnipthechris: does:  sudo iwlist scan   show SSIDs?09:05
sokakahh, got you :) raptor67682, i have way too many roms to remember names to be launched from shell ;) btw, have a look at the manpage to check you've given the correct options http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/sdlmame.1.html09:06
blackshirtThechris, is it possible outputing python output from console to web browser page?09:06
thechrisActionParsnip: nope, "no results found"09:06
thechrisblackshirt: you'd have to import cgi.  I just used python as an example.  the regex can be used anywhere09:06
thechrisor at least anywhere that supportes regex.  there's probably a few how-to's on google that also cover the corner cases09:09
ActionParsnipthechris: if you unload and reload the module in terminal, does it give any interesting output?09:10
blackshirtThecris, i have a little doing with python framework,and i have some python script loaded on the server,but output show on console,not browser pages..09:10
shalehI just upgraded from karmic to lucid using dist-upgrade. I am using dovecot as an imap server against maildir in the user home dirs. Now when I point a client at the server I do not see my mail. Instead I see the folders with dots in their name (.foo instead of foo) and it wants to show me all of the dovecot added info instead of mail messages. I set this server up when karmic was new so I have completely ignored dovecot changes. Any i09:10
shalehon where to start?09:10
thechrishmm, despite having "good" linux support, I can't find any evidence that anyone anywhere ever got this adaptor to work09:12
ActionParsnipthechris: is it usb based?09:14
ActionParsnipthechris: are there bugs reported?09:14
Arizona_Baydoes anyone know how i can control my desktop from another pc?09:14
ActionParsnipArizona_Bay: install openssh-server and you can connect securely via ssh09:14
williamchan_on my mac osx ... if i do something like ... ssh my[tab] .. it will autocompete w. ssh myserver ........ how can i add this tab completion to my ubuntu as well?09:14
Arizona_Bayill google that thank you ActionParsnip09:15
ActionParsnipwilliamchan_: you will need to add an entry to the confio of tabcompletion09:15
ActionParsnipArizona_Bay: when you say control, what do you want to achieve?09:15
williamchan_ActionParsnip: how would i do that?09:15
Arizona_BayActioParsnip like controlling the desktop as if im on my own pc,09:16
ActionParsnipwilliamchan_: not sure, I only know of it. You will need to add a list of servers you connect to which you can then tab complete09:16
thechrisActionParsnip: it is usb based09:16
ActionParsnipArizona_Bay: to achieve what though?09:16
osmosiswhy does ubuntu use Empathy by default instead of Pidgin?09:16
williamchan_ActionParsnip: on my mac... its able to "memorize" the list of servers... so if i connect it once... it will remember next time .09:16
Arizona_BayActionParsnip to have access to my desktop through my laptop09:16
ActionParsnipwilliamchan_: different OSes do different things dude09:16
ActionParsnipArizona_Bay: yes but what tasks will you do on the desktop once connected?09:17
ActionParsnipwilliamchan_: you could make a suggestion on http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com09:17
Arizona_BayActionParsnip just have access to my data and all that09:17
ActionParsnipArizona_Bay: you can access sshfs from Ubuntu once you install openssh-server and access your data like a windows share09:18
Arizona_BayActionParsnip i want that for my windows partition09:18
ActionParsnipArizona_Bay: you will also get an sftp server you can connect to from various clients like filezilla to upload and download data09:18
Arizona_Bayto be honest ActionParsnip i dont know what sshfs and sftp means09:19
ActionParsnipArizona_Bay: there are also apps for windows to map sftp as a network drive09:19
ActionParsnipArizona_Bay: its like windows file sharing but secured09:19
ActionParsnipArizona_Bay: if you just want access to your files then sshfs will do that for you, no need for the whole desktop for that09:20
jameswhi.. can anyone suggest a web crawler (similar to WebZip) for ubuntu?09:20
jameswi want to point it at a root url, give it credentials, give it what types of files to download and let it go09:20
Arizona_BayActionParsnip no no i want the whole desktop. I want full access09:20
ActionParsnipArizona_Bay: why, its not needed... You can install VNC but its really OTT09:21
Arizona_BayOTT?09:21
ActionParsnipArizona_Bay: and not secure09:21
Arizona_BayVNC?09:21
ActionParsnipOTT = over the top09:21
ActionParsnipArizona_Bay: vnc is a standard desktop viewing app which will give you access, it has no security but will give a desktop09:21
ActionParsnip!vnc09:21
ubottuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX09:22
raptor67682I think it is : sdlmame -rompath /home/josh/games/roms   msglug3.zip but not working09:22
ActionParsnipraptor67682: read:  man sdlmame09:23
ActionParsnipraptor67682: or try grabbing a GUI09:23
raptor67682ActionParsnip:  did it09:23
JoshuaP?09:23
raptor67682I need to use it with the console (no gui) . sorry :(09:23
JoshuaPOh not me... nvm09:23
Clerisyhow do i get an iphone to work under ubuntu?09:24
Arizona_BayActionParsnip if i download VNC my pc will be more vulnerable?09:24
ActionParsnipArizona_Bay: if it is not exposed to the web then it's fine, if it is then yes, very09:24
ActionParsnipraptor67682: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jaunty/man1/sdlmame.1.html09:24
Arizona_BayActionParsnip is there a safer application ? again for windows user09:25
ActionParsnipArizona_Bay: you can use it via SSH tunnel to add security, not sure for windows users myself. I always use web interfaces and ssh09:26
MrCasythis linux ultimate 2.9 is pretty awesome09:26
ShadowE9899Clerisy: iPhone is too locked down to do that. It does work on some android phones but not all. Ubuntu ATM does not have great touch screen support anyways.09:26
Arizona_Bayill google ssh thx ActionParsnip09:26
ActionParsnipMrCasy: it;s not supported here09:26
MrCasyanywhere to get support for it09:27
ActionParsnip!ultimate09:27
ubottuThere are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition09:27
MrCasythank you09:27
opalepatrickWhere are .air apps located in linux? ran find for tha app and cant locate it09:28
Clerisymad ShadowE989909:28
ClerisyGOOD OPERATING SYSTEM MATE09:28
ShadowE9899I read ubuntu will have great multitouch support next release cycle, since they are aiming for tablets.09:28
ShadowE9899Clerisy: I feel ya.09:28
Clerisydat feel ShadowE989909:28
ActionParsnipMrCasy: seems to be #UltimateEdition09:29
ActionParsnipopalepatrick: adobe air isn't supported on Linux anymore09:29
opalepatrick i know ActionParsnip, I have one app using it (klok) and just want to locate it for startup09:30
sarts_workHow can I configure the unity wallpaper-image from the cli?09:30
Arizona_BayActionParsnip what does the OpenSSh do againÉ09:31
Arizona_BayIm reading about it but i cant clearly understand what it does09:32
Arizona_BayIs it a substitute for VNC + SSH?09:32
ActionParsnipArizona_Bay: its a secure command line interface, it also allows you to run GUI apps if you have an X server running on the client09:33
ActionParsnipArizona_Bay: it also gives an SFTP server09:33
ActionParsnipopalepatrick: http://askubuntu.com/questions/67218/how-do-i-create-a-desktop-wallpaper-slideshow-in-oneiric09:33
raptor67682ActionParsnip:   I read it already, that hte same I have man sdlmame, but nothing is written how to run teh rom. http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jaunty/man1/sdlmame.1.html09:33
ActionParsnipraptor67682: thought it'd be:  sdlmame romname09:33
raptor67682I loose my time here since you do not konw09:33
raptor67682I try another channel #sdlmame09:33
Arizona_BayActionParsnip what you say sounds like giberrish :( im giving up thanks anyways09:34
ActionParsnipopalepatrick: if you installed the app as user it will probably be in $HOME someplace09:34
raptor67682Arizona_Bay: Me too I am giving up :)09:34
ActionParsnipArizona_Bay: try researching instead of seeing alien terms and shrugging09:34
Arizona_BayActionParsnip I am but I think i'm in deeper then i can handle. a lot of things i dont get ...09:35
ActionParsnipArizona_Bay: best way to learn is to try09:35
opalepatrickCheers ActionParsnip - was that wallpaper link an error?09:35
ActionParsnipArizona_Bay: if you install openssh-server you can connect with putty and do stuff09:36
ActionParsnipopalepatrick: Isn't that what you wanted?09:36
Arizona_Bayhttp://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/remotely-control-somebodys-desktop-the-easy-way/09:36
Arizona_Baywhat about thisÉ09:36
erichi all09:36
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opalepatricklol, no. You answered me second time though. Just a .air app location. No worries. It is Klok - a time manager, and I havent seen anything as good as it in years. Thanks anyway :-)09:37
lalagirlhi09:38
lalagirlhi everyone!09:38
ActionParsnipsarts_work: http://askubuntu.com/questions/67218/how-do-i-create-a-desktop-wallpaper-slideshow-in-oneiric09:39
NickinatorHi there,09:43
NickinatorWhat can we help you with?09:43
raptor67682ActionParsnip: ok I have it : sdlmame  -rompath /home/josh/mamerom/   ../mslug.zip     . I know that it was sthg like that.  It is nowhere written on any boards.09:43
oemhow can I resolv segmentation fault on linux system09:47
Ryllez89-awayhow i remove the shortcuts in the side of "aplications" and "local" menu on gnome-classic?09:48
oemthis problem comes at boot step09:48
javier_hi! I have a problem in another laptop. I have installed ubuntu together with windows 7, but grub doesn't let me move in the menu, so windows (which is setted by default) is always opening. I need ubuntu urgently... Someone knows how to fix this? I've an ubuntu bootable USB09:51
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ActionParsnipRyllez89: use alacarte and you can edit the menu easily09:56
Ryllez89ActionParsnip, thxx, i resolved my problem pressing "alt" and right click09:56
Ryllez89on the icon09:56
Ryllez89:D09:56
lalagirlhi everyone!!!!!!!!09:58
lalagirlhow is everyone doing???09:59
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thechrisdoes anyone know how to get an ASUS USB-N53 usb wifi adaptor to work?10:02
thechrisI cannot get it to find AP's.10:02
thechrisI don't think it works in linux, though the support was listed as "good"10:03
thechrisit is listed as rt2800usb, but I can't find any evidence that anyone has ever even tried to use one.10:03
sarts_workActionParsnip: thanks, so unity uses the same interface as gnome3 :)10:05
sarts_workthen I don't have to change anything in my code ;)10:06
ActionParsnipsarts_work: unity is a shell for gnome310:06
sarts_workActionParsnip: oh, I did not know that. thnx.10:07
ActionParsnipthechris: could go to ralink's page and compile the driver if code is available10:07
thechrisActionParsnip: I've attempted that for the rt2870sta module.  I'm not convinced that the kernel people know what the device is.  its listed as rt2800 unknown10:09
wadkarI am doing " mkdir -p foo1/bar1; echo '1' > foo1/bar/baz " and " mkdir -p foo2/bar; echo '2' > foo2/bar/baz " . Now I want to replace foo1 with foo2. If I do " mv foo2 foo1 " the foo2 is moved inside foo110:09
thechrisThe only information I've found for its chipset is from wikidev, which lists the support as "good", and that it probably uses rt2800usb or rt287010:09
wadkaris it implicit that I must do " rm -rf foo1; mv foo2 foo1 " ?10:09
KinG`PiNHello10:10
wadkaror am I missing something simple and basic ?10:10
sunkenhi, is there some easy way to configure an ubuntu server just to send me an email with some server status (like hdd usage, restart needed etc.) I already have a smtp mail server on another server?10:11
Anticomhi all10:14
Anticomi'm trying to install imageMagick using the rpm packages on ubuntu 11.1010:14
watschuhallo allerseits10:14
llutzsunken: write a short script with the things you want, install a simple mailer like ssmtp/msmtp on that machine, configure it to send mails to your other server (with mta) and setup a cron-job10:15
watschuhabe eine partition vergroessert *sda1 und sda2 zusammengefasst10:15
llutz!de | watschu10:15
ubottuwatschu: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!10:15
Anticombut no matter with witch package i start , console is always telling me some that there are dependency issues10:15
bazhangAnticom, dont do that, use imagemagick from ubuntu repos10:16
Anticombazhang: i've tried that10:16
Anticomi want to get the c++ interface for development10:16
Anticombut c compiler was complaining about like 1000 things10:16
Anticomso i thought it might be worth a try to go for the rpm's10:16
Anticombazhang: any advice on that?10:17
thomasdhello10:17
Anticomhowdy10:17
darkangelDoes unity include lightdm?10:17
thomasdI have an issue with gnome would you mind helping me?10:17
sunkenllutz: thank you but it looks hard for me to do it. Do you have an guide url you would like to share?10:18
Anticomdon't ask wether you're allowed to ask questions thomasd ...just ask10:18
ActionParsnipdarkangel: unity is just a shell for gnome, the default ubuntu comes with both lightdm and unity installed10:18
llutzsunken: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/10/21/sending-email-from-your-system-with-ssmtp/10:18
thomasdsorry :P. I'm currently running in a recovery consone. When I run the command Gnome-session the computer runs in a video mode/resolution not allowed on my monotor. Is there some file i can edit to reset video settings for gnome?10:19
darkangelActionParsnip: I'm installing unity manually from a command-line-only install.10:20
sunkenllutz: ok, will start with it and see if I can figure it out. Thank you10:20
dereekmy battery meter is showing 13 hrs 45 minuter..10:20
dereekand it shows low battery whenever i remove the charger..10:21
dereekwhat should i do10:21
darkangelActionParsnip: I'm trying to understand how the dependencies work ... will installing unity install gnome, etc.10:21
ActionParsnipdarkangel: I see, could have installed a different DE, or use the --no-recommends option in apt-get10:21
dereek my battery meter is showing 13 hrs 45 minuter..and it shows low battery whenever i remove the charger..  what should i do10:21
Anticomdereek: don't remove the charger :)10:22
ActionParsnipdarkangel: if you install a package then read the packages also installed, you can see what's what10:22
ActionParsnipdereek: 13 hours is sweet10:22
dereekand getting low battey when charged 100 percent is rough10:22
ActionParsnipdereek: do you have latest BIOS?10:23
thechrismeh, I'm just going to return the usb wifi adaptor.10:23
owenlldereek: is it the battery that's not charging or the indicator that's not working?10:23
thechrisi'm not convinced it works in linux at all10:23
dereekyeah..10:23
ActionParsnipthechris: its a usb thing, they are cheap10:23
ActionParsnipthechris: try get a broadcom based one or intel10:24
dereekit was fine with windows and  ubuntu 10.1010:24
thechriswell, its late10:24
darkangelActionParsnip: k, thanks.10:24
owenlldereek: try another battery indicator http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/02/battery-applet-status-ubuntu/10:24
dereeki have gnome 310:25
dereek.210:25
pooltablehelp i went to qbittorrent and try to open folder then it ask me what app to chose how do i change it to another view to see the difference???10:25
owenlldereek:  what does acpi 1 give?10:27
oemhow can I resolv segmentation fault problem on linux ubuntu (this problem comes at booting)10:29
oemthis points my  /dev/sda6 partition which contains my ubuntu10:29
oemmy generic mode do not functions too, real problem!!10:29
darkangelIf I "dpkg --get-selections | grep gdm" and "dpkg --get-selections | grep lightdm" I don't see anything ... what will happen if I boot without one of these?10:30
oemhow can I resolv segmentation fault problem on linux ubuntu (this problem comes at booting)10:30
oemmy generic mode do not functions too, real problem!!10:30
oemmy generic mode do not functions too, real problem!!10:30
FloodBot1oem: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:30
pooltableoem this may help http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/segmentation-fault-on-linux-unix.html10:30
dereekdischrging 52 percent10:30
ActionParsnipoem: have you tested your ram?10:30
docboyiam having a problem with flashplayer. I already installed it but its now working in chorium browser. anyhelp?10:32
pfred1docboy you don't want it to work?10:32
ActionParsnipdocboy: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'        thanks10:33
docboyI mean its not working. sorry wrong type hehe10:34
* pfred1 doesn't like gnash10:34
somehello, then monitor goes out of sync during boot up against which package do I report a bug?10:35
pooltablehelp use xfce how to i change the folder color on the bottom thing thanks?10:35
docboywhen i played video in facebook, it always says flash player has to be installed. I installed it from repository already.10:36
ActionParsnipdocboy: can you give the output of the command I gave please, use a pastebin10:37
docboy@actionparsnip what is pastebin? sorry Iam a new user. I am using bodhilinux.10:38
pooltablei got it10:38
ActionParsnip!paste10:38
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.10:38
phil93some: please report that against the kernel using "ubuntu-bug linux"10:38
ActionParsnipdocboy: bodhilinux isn't supported here10:38
pfred1pooltable I hope it isn't catchy10:39
pooltablepfred1 what ??10:39
ActionParsnipdocboy: /j #bodhilinux10:39
docboybut bodhi is derived from ubuntu 10.0410:39
pfred1I'm running ubuntu 11.10 live is there a way to switch it to "classic"10:39
NaeblisHi! I'm using Ubuntu 11.04, and suddenly the sound went away. I'm getting a "** (gnome-volume-control:2492): WARNING **: Connection failed, reconnecting...". when I try opening the gnome volume control. Any help? :)10:40
pfred1pooltable you said 05:38 < pooltable> i got it10:40
pooltablepfred ok on classic try this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-make-ubuntu-11-10-look-and-feel-like-gnome-2/ I did not like it i went to xfce like it much better10:41
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pfred1pooltable twm would beat unity ;)10:42
ActionParsnipNaeblis: if you run:  alsamixer   in terminal, is it ok?10:43
pooltablepfred1 i know i wish they ubuntu crew just add classic  for all of us that do not like it10:43
NaeblisActionParsnip, yes.10:43
pfred1pooltable on the plus side i got my wifi working easily enough10:43
ActionParsnipNaeblis: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse    then retry the app10:44
azertyihello there10:44
NaeblisActionParsnip, "pulseaudio: no process found"10:44
* pfred1 wonders why someone doesn't just stick a shank into pulseaudio and put all uf us out o our miseries10:44
ActionParsnipNaeblis: that could be why10:44
psycloneis there a way that I can change my WAN IP address?10:44
ActionParsnippsyclone: contact your provider10:45
ActionParsnipNaeblis: does a reboot help?10:45
azertyiit was a time i put a password on winrar folder now i forgot the password10:45
azertyihow to rescue the password ?10:45
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ActionParsnipazertyi: http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/04/howto-crack-rar-7z-and-zip-files-with.html10:45
NaeblisActionParsnip, no. I was having sound problems 2 days ago, then I did an update I found on the troubleshoot pages which fixed it. Now it's gone again.10:45
psycloneActionParsnip: is there now way to do this manually10:46
ActionParsnippsyclone: no, your wan ip is provided by your ISP, you will need to contact them10:46
azertyithanks ActionParsni10:46
Naeblisand I thought you should only have alsa or pulseaudio installed, not both?10:47
ActionParsnipNaeblis: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh10:47
pfred1pulse is an abstraction that runs on alsa10:47
ActionParsnipNaeblis: yes you have both10:47
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pfred1alsa is the actual sound driver10:47
NaeblisActionParsnip, http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=f6b924d923bb1084fd5b8a09a5e22358d680171a10:48
pfred1pulse is supposed to be more of a multiplexer10:48
pooltablehow do i add paste in folder in xfce ???10:48
pfred1in reality is is just a bad headache10:48
almoxarifepfred1: why not remove pulse from your system?, be done with it10:50
ActionParsnipNaeblis: have youran the netty command here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure10:51
pfred1almoxarife I always do10:51
ActionParsnippulse always works here, never had a sound issue in all my years of linux10:51
NaeblisActionParsnip, yes. That's what I did.10:51
ActionParsnipNaeblis: cool10:51
pfred1ActionParsnip maybe you haven't run Linux for so many years10:51
almoxarifepulse works here too10:51
ActionParsnippfred1: since 200010:51
NaeblisI had glorious sound for 1 day. Now it's gone again. :(10:51
ActionParsnippfred1: how many years is 'so many'10:52
pfred1ActionParsnip well I have you beat by 510:52
ActionParsnipNaeblis: are you wanting to use hdmi or the regular sound card?10:52
NaeblisActionParsnip, Whatever works tbh.10:52
ActionParsnippfred1: still a good few, I buy compatible stuff rather than shiny shiny, new or what is no sale10:52
pfred1ActionParsnip get original Quake to work with pulse10:53
azertyii just install the package how to use ? ActionParsnip to winrar10:53
pfred1ActionParsnip good luck to ya10:53
ActionParsnippfred1: wine works great with pulse here10:53
ActionParsnippfred1: it'll run well10:53
pfred1ActionParsnip did I say wine?10:53
ActionParsnippfred1: you didn't say NOT wine10:53
pfred1ActionParsnip OK I'm saying it now native10:54
ActionParsnippfred1: if you don't constrict I will assume its an option10:54
pfred1ActionParsnip consider yourself constricted then10:54
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ActionParsnippfred1: ooh baby10:54
azertyihow to use rarcrack ? ActionParsnip10:54
almoxarifepfred1: is there a gui for terminal? I was wanting to go gui/pulse, can I play quake on a coco?10:54
pfred1ActionParsnip run the darkplaces on wine tell me the framerate you're getting on a good mod map10:54
NaeblisI'm fairly sure this is just a volume control problem, because I hear noise when I try to play something, so I know the sound isn't gone.10:55
azertyithis is the error i got Erreur de segmentation (core dumped) ActionParsnip10:55
pfred1Naeblis then fix it in  mixer application10:56
pfred1Naeblis try gmix if you can't figure out how alsamixer works10:57
ActionParsnippfred1: am I allowed to use quakespasm?10:57
pfred1ActionParsnip isn't that just a mod?10:57
ActionParsnip!info quakespasm10:57
ubottuPackage quakespasm does not exist in oneiric10:57
ActionParsnip!info quakespasm precise10:57
ubottu'precise' is not a valid distribution: hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, maverick, maverick-backports, maverick-proposed, medibuntu, natty, natty-backports, natty-proposed, oneiric, oneiric-backports, oneiric-proposed, partner, stable, testing, unstable10:57
pfred1ActionParsnip yeah run the second board in darkplaces that'll do just fine10:58
ActionParsnippfred1: QuakeSpasm is a Unix-friendly Quake engine based on the SDL port of the popular FitzQuake.10:58
ActionParsnippfred1: its in universe in precise10:58
pfred1ActionParsnip ah then I must be thinking about something with a similar name10:59
ActionParsnip!info ioquake310:59
ubottuioquake3 (source: ioquake3): Game engine for 3D first person shooter games. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.36+svn1946-5 (oneiric), package size 1268 kB, installed size 2948 kB10:59
ActionParsnipjust need wads :)10:59
gm_test11:01
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pooltablehelp useing xfce how do i open more then one folder at a time?11:02
pfred1ActionParsnip http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=6007311:03
pfred1ActionParsnip get the second board of that to work in wine11:04
pfred1ActionParsnip my i3 has troubles with an optimized custom compile11:05
ActionParsnippfred1: better than my 64bit single core sempron11:06
ActionParsnippooltable: so you mean like selecting a bunch of folders and opening them in one click?11:07
chachanguys, this is not working as expected: find ./ -name 'cdc2????' -type d -exec echo {}.tar {} \;11:07
chachanI expect results like: ./cdc21234.tar ./cdc2123411:08
pooltableaction no just for now 211:08
chachaninstead is throwing {}.tar ./cdc2123411:09
ActionParsnipchachan: may help http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1108527/recursively-add-file-extension-to-all-files11:09
ActionParsnippooltable: what file manager?11:09
pooltableactionparsnip i do not know how to tell or change ??11:10
pooltableactionparsnip still new to xfce11:10
ActionParsnippooltable: under help -> about11:10
pooltableactionparsnip (thunar)11:11
chachanActionParsnip: it's not working but since I'm on bash, the OS is solaris and yes, I know and in #ubuntu, I thought it would be similar but I'm not so sure now11:11
ActionParsnipthunar rocks, let me check11:11
ActionParsnipchachan: i'd ask in #bash11:12
chachanActionParsnip: thx11:12
somehi, if there are problems with wrong monitor refresh rates, then against which package do you report the bug?11:12
stevekenyahi all11:13
somewelcome11:13
almoxarifesome: the graphics driver?11:13
somealmoxarife, nouveau is? ubuntu-bug nouveau-xorg?11:14
ActionParsnippooltable: if you select the folders then right click the selection and click open, do both folders open?11:14
stevekenyai have a problem install canon scanner lide 110,11:14
stevekenyacan anyone help11:14
almoxarifesome: you are using nouveau?11:14
ActionParsnipxserver-xorg-video-nouveau   will be the package11:15
ActionParsnipstevekenya: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc11:15
pooltableactionparsnip how do i change file manager?11:16
somealmoxarife, yes, I uninstalled proprietary drivers, have no need at this machine11:16
stevekenyalucid11:16
ActionParsnippooltable: install another and it should (afaik) set itself as default11:16
ActionParsnipstevekenya: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=159580111:17
ActionParsnipstevekenya: or: http://www.finnchristiansen.de/?p=55711:17
pigliti am using the newest version of ubuntu 11.10 and now i cant do: add to panel and then add system monitor but that does not seem to work is there a fix for this?11:17
pigliteven the thing that showed me to switch to the other workspace is gone11:18
pigliti am using gnome clasic btw11:18
pooltableactionparsnip where do i go to install afaik?11:20
ActionParsnippooltable: software centre, like any other app11:21
stevekenyaactionparsnip: i have folled both methods but still sane can find the scanner11:22
pooltableactionparsnip i look up file manager i go not see afaik11:22
almoxarifepiglit: there is an extension for cpu load for gnome, I think, regardless, its all about extensions in 11.10, look for the ones that will make your desktop to your taste11:23
ActionParsnipstevekenya: is it the same as this: http://www.bottomlesspit.org/2010/12/23/canon-lide-210-scanner-support-on-ubuntu-1010-maverick11:23
ActionParsnippooltable: pcmanfm is a file manager, afaik is me saying 'as far as I know'11:24
pooltablei have pcmanfm how do i change it ?11:25
flukes1I just reinstalled ubuntu server 11.10 and my eth0 has no IPv4 address, just IPv6 - how do I fix this? I had to manually add it to /etc/network/interfaces to even get it to show up11:25
flukes1I fixed it last time but can't remember how, I know I didn't have to disable ipv6 though11:27
MK--hi all i'm having a nightmare trying to install ubuntu on my new Dell i7 pc. I have tried installing from usb, from cd; 32 bit version and 64 bit version; 11.10 and 11.04; i have checked the iso mdsums and everything! It just won't install. I keep getting this message and then it hangs!11:29
luca3ciao11:29
luca3!list11:29
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opalepatrickWhats a good alternative to brasero for 11.10 (using unity)11:29
stevekenyaactionparsnip:help me understand this:11:30
stevecamopalepatrick, rhythmbox11:30
stevekenya$cat /etc/sane.d/genesys.conf and make sure your scanner is listed.11:30
stevekenyaIf not listed then $sudo cp ~/sane-backends/backend/genesys.conf.in /etc/sane.d/genesys.conf11:30
pooltableopalepatrick i like k3b11:31
stevekenyamy genesys.conf is blank11:31
stevecamopalepatrick, sorry, k3b11:31
blackshirtK3b was kde centris11:31
stevekenyaoops sorry its listed there but its still not found11:32
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Guest25947i have a doubt about ettercap11:35
MK--hi all i'm having a nightmare trying to install ubuntu on my new Dell i7 pc. I have tried installing from usb, from cd; 32 bit version and 64 bit version; 11.10 and 11.04; i have checked the iso mdsums and everything! It just won't install. I keep getting this message and then it hangs!11:35
stevecami wish i understood the logic behind many decisions in the Linux community, like why distributors use things like Brasero, banshee and unity11:35
MK--http://www.uploadup.com/di-PD3Q.jpg11:35
MK--any help will be appreciated. It just hangs at this point and it's driving me crazy. Been a few days and I still am not sure what to do. http://www.uploadup.com/di-PD3Q.jpg11:36
Guest25947i have a problem with the dns on ettercap11:36
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MK--anyone?11:41
MK--:)11:41
aguitelhow disable screensaver in ubuntu 11.10 ?11:42
NickinatorChange the "turn off after",11:44
opalepatrickthanks stevecam & pooltable - k3b is OK with unity or will it pull in a load of libraries?11:46
userhello, how to install proprietary drivers for GeForce2 MX400? They are not present in Prop. Drivers menu11:46
stevecamopalepatrick, it will pull in a few11:47
opalepatrickOh I will get it. Just got into a massive lost data situation cos of brasero (and me not double checking)11:47
Daekdroomuser, if they are not there, it's probably because nvidia no longer supports your video card.11:49
MK--anyone know what i can do to get ubuntu installed?11:49
MK--any help will be appreciated. It just hangs at this point and it's driving me crazy. Been a few days and I still am not sure what to do. http://www.uploadup.com/di-PD3Q.jpg11:49
MK--i'm having a nightmare trying to install ubuntu on my new Dell i7 pc. I have tried installing from usb, from cd; 32 bit version and 64 bit version; 11.10 and 11.04; i have checked the iso mdsums and everything! It just won't install. I keep getting this message and then it hangs!11:49
MonkeyDustMK--  basically: insert CD or thumbdrive, reboot, follow instructions11:50
MK--lol MonkeyDust11:50
MK--I have tried that a zillion times11:50
MK--pls check the error I keep getting - that's where it hangs11:50
MK--It just hangs at this point http://www.uploadup.com/di-PD3Q.jpg11:51
MonkeyDustunable to open the link11:51
userDaekdroom, bcoz after one restart ubu have self installed  nouveau which hangs whole screen11:51
MK--hmm11:51
MK--what's it saying?11:51
MonkeyDustchild process something11:51
MK--weird11:51
ActionParsnipMK--: Tried disabling all unnecessary hardware, like SD card readers and such11:52
MK--thanks ActionParsnip - how would i go about doing that? I think the problem seems to be related to my scsci hard drive?11:52
ActionParsnipMK--: install with CD and disable the USB too11:52
kleopatraHi, im actually using Kubuntu and have a little answer concerning Ark, it doesnt seem to recognize if an archive is encrypted. It tries to open it but it will last forever. Using unrar is working fine but i like right-clicks on my archives.11:52
ActionParsnipMK--: in BIOS11:52
ActionParsnipkleopatra: are there bugs reported?11:53
MK--ActionParsnip yeah i tried installing with the cd - same issue11:53
ActionParsnipkleopatra: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=8030011:53
ActionParsnipkleopatra: seems to be an ancient bug11:54
ActionParsnipMK--: but if you use CD you can disable all USB connectivity11:54
ActionParsnipkleopatra: do you actually use a LOT of password protected rar files?11:54
sokakuwaah, tried lxde, its insanely fast and sleek :o11:55
kleopatraActionParsnip: thx, still wondering how u found this faster than me ...11:55
ActionParsnipkleopatra: http://duckduckgo.com/?q=ark+password+rar&kl=uk-en&kp=111:55
sokakquestion: its okay to speak of krark here?11:56
ActionParsnipsokak: if its in the ubuntu repo, sure11:57
sokakhaha okay, im gonna find another channel for that :)11:57
ribothi11:58
riboti have tried out to put some scripts in /etc.cron.hourly and it was happening automatically, but when i moved the scripts to cron.daily they are not running anymore... i have tried to run the scripts manually and they do work11:59
ActionParsnipribot: do you have a desktop UI?12:00
sokaki always used the gnome gui for cron, im messy on the cli :312:00
llutzribot: what's the scripts name?12:01
ribotActionParsnip: no12:01
ivanuuuko59hola12:01
ribotllutz: it's the same name as was working with cron.hourly, no dots: mysql_backup12:02
ActionParsnipribot: are the accesses the same after the move?12:02
llutzribot: " grep daily /etc/crontab"   do other daily-jobs work?12:03
FAMASwhere do i seek for spinoffs and distros based on ubuntu but specialized for a certain aspect12:03
ActionParsnipFAMAS: their respective channel12:03
ribotActionParsnip: yes12:03
FAMASonly, i do not know the name of the distro, i just know the need12:03
ribotllutz: i'm not sure, how do i see if they work?12:04
llutzribot: just create a new job, writing date every 2 mins into a /tmp/-file  to check12:04
ActionParsnipribot: could try a reboot after the move..12:05
MonkeyDustFAMAS  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions#Ubuntu-based12:05
llutzreboot? to restart cron? is this #windows?12:05
ActionParsnipworth a try12:05
riboti don't wanna reboot12:05
sokakThere are any known side effects in abandoning completely unity for lxde? I mean, i can still work using fully ubuntu, or i may end up with some applications not running properly/some configs i cannot touch?12:06
MonkeyDustsokak  lxde is basically just a different skin12:07
llutzribot: do you have anacron installed? if so, daily/weekly/monthly won't be executed by cron anymore. check anacrontab in that case12:07
ActionParsnipsokak: none at all12:08
sokakMonkeyDust, i see, i had just doubts about applications meant for unity explicitely not being able to be displayed properly. Thats a relief, lxde boots insanely fast even on my crappy eeepc12:08
ribotllutz: i didn't install it, as hourly was working already12:08
llutzribot: hourly is always run by cron12:08
ActionParsnipsokak: you can even use unity in LXDE if you want. LXDE is great12:08
ribotllutz: anacrontab is there, but i didn't install it, so maybe i have to?12:09
sokakActionParsnip, i noticed :) If lxde can boot in 2 seconds on my eeepc, i cant figure how damn fast can be on an exacore rig with a sata disk12:09
llutzribot: apt-cache policy anacron |grep -i insta12:09
ribotllutz: it's installed, the latest version12:10
ribotmight it not be running?12:10
ActionParsnipsokak: xpud boots faster than ubuntu if boot speed impresses you12:10
infuriato|list12:10
llutzribot: so check anacron, anacrontab, see logs.12:10
sokakActionParsnip, im fine with everything under 2 seconds xD If i go faster, i wont be able to keep the rhytm with my box :D12:10
sokakBut i have to admit, ActionParsnip that when i am in a hurry, i gladly boot puppy from a thumbstick ;) Even if i think that having 8 gig of ram is a little overkill for that :D12:11
ribotllutz: seems to be no logs of it12:12
piglitalmoxarife, i found it, it seems you have to press alt AND the right mouse button to install to do "add to panel" You did not have to use the ALT button before12:16
ActionParsnipsokak: add the toram option to it and it will scream along12:16
ribotif i do crontab -e from root, then save the file with a command, what else do i need to do for the cronjob to run?12:20
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lnxslckribot, nothing12:21
lnxslckjust che12:22
lnxslckcheck to see if crond is running12:22
lnxslckif it is, the job will run as configured12:22
ribotlnxslck: how can i check that12:22
Andrew_Leeps -ef12:22
riboti don't see it there, and yet cron.hourly was working12:23
arriq12:23
Andrew_Leeribot, is crontab running?12:23
Naeblisso umm...I've tried everything, but still no sound. :(12:23
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ribotAndrew_Lee: i don't know, how do i check?12:24
Naeblisthe gnome volume control is back, and I can hear "clicks" when I play something, but no sound.12:24
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NaeblisActionParsnip, you there?12:25
Andrew_Leeps -ef | grep cron12:25
ribotAndrew_Lee: seems not to be running12:25
Andrew_Leeribot, look at in /etc/init.d12:26
ribotwhat does it look like? there is something called cron12:26
foleygermanyis there someone online???12:26
Andrew_Leeribot, you should see cron there12:27
foleygermanyi have some problems with my ubuntu12:27
foleygermanycan somebody help me ???12:27
Dynamitfoleygermany just write your problem!12:28
foleygermanyive installed an surfstick (MFE ZME 100)12:28
rafaelsoaresbr!ask > foleygermany12:29
ubottufoleygermany, please see my private message12:29
foleygermanyokay12:29
foleygermanyan private message to ????12:29
foleygermanyanybody???12:29
Culsetting up NFS, confused... followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo and getting errors. stopping before I break something :)12:30
ActionParsnipNaeblis: sup12:31
sokakActionParsnip, what does the toram does? :o flips all up in the ram?12:31
ActionParsnipsokak: runs the entire OS in ram, makes app load times blisteringly fast12:32
sokakActionParsnip, i do like >:o12:32
NaeblisActionParsnip, still not getting any sound. The gnome control is back, and I tried that Natty troubleshoot again. No go. :|12:32
NaeblisI do get a little "pop" when I play something.12:32
sokakActionParsnip, the toram switch can be applied to any ubuntu as well? :312:33
ActionParsnipsokak: I believe on the liveCD yes12:33
foleygermanyHello dear community.12:33
foleygermanyI  stand here before a real problem, I should install a modem (ZTE  Surstick MFE 100) and a SMSServer (smstools v3) on Ubuntu (Ubuntu 10.04  LTS).12:33
foleygermanyDid  the Surstick plugged in and with him usb_modeswitch in the "Surf Stick"  mode is selected (everything worked as described here.12:33
foleygermanyThen I installed the server smstools (here)12:33
foleygermanyand  of course after I did the config revision had to send a text message: P  fehlschlug.In thoroughly what the / var / logs / stands following  smsd.log12:33
FloodBot1foleygermany: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.12:33
sokakActionParsnip, bummer, i wanted to try it so badly on my installed os :D Planning to buy another 24 gig of ram soon :312:34
ActionParsnipsokak: I had an idea for copying all the OS to ram in the same method but you'd need to rebuild initramfs each shutdown to put the updates back on the permanent storage12:34
MonkeyDust24 gig?12:34
sokakActionParsnip, im listening :D Dont think im insane, i have a truckton of ram because i use intensively vms :)12:35
foleygermanyHello dear community.12:36
foleygermanyI  stand here before a real problem, I should install a modem (ZTE  Surstick MFE 100) and a SMSServer (smstools v3) on Ubuntu (Ubuntu 10.04  LTS).12:36
foleygermanyDid  the Surstick plugged in and with him usb_modeswitch in the "Surf Stick"  mode is selected (everything worked as described here.12:36
foleygermanyThen I installed the server smstools (here)12:36
foleygermanyand  of course after I did the config revision had to send a text message: P  fehlschlug.In thoroughly what the / var / logs / stands following  smsd.log12:36
FloodBot1foleygermany: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.12:36
lalagirlhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii everyone!!!!!!!!!12:36
foleygermanySry12:36
foleygermanyi have some problems with my surfstick12:37
foleygermanycan somebody help me???12:37
Gentoo64omg bill gates has joined12:37
ActionParsnipsokak: the OS will use the RAM as disk cache and speed things up12:37
ActionParsnipfoleygermany: is it a 3G device12:37
High_Priestfoleygermany, just explain what exactly the problem is and wait until someone answers12:37
foleygermanyokay12:37
ActionParsnipsokak: it'd take a lot of work but could be done, boot and shutdown would be dog slow12:37
foleygermanyif plugged in the sursftick and switched to modem mode12:37
foleygermanythat works fine12:38
foleygermanybut then i wanted to send an sms12:38
sokakMonkeyDust, i think i shall reconsider what ive said :3 i thought my mobo limit was 32, but then i came back to reality and realized that 1) there arent still ddr3 8 gb sticks, 2) i has just 4 slots and 2 were yet filled (oh silly me)12:38
foleygermanyand cant find the device :(12:38
tioxUbuntu 11.10, Gnome 3, I am looking for a way to make a series of keypresses emulate another keypress to supplement a miniature, palm-sized keyboard I've recently acquired. For instance: Super_L+Alt+R = Alt+F412:38
foleygermanyand my udev rule failed12:38
foleygermany:(12:38
lalagirl!enter | foleygermany12:38
ubottufoleygermany: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!12:38
sokakActionParsnip, a pciexpress ssd its on the wishlist, it shouldnt be so slow even during shutdowns12:39
ActionParsnipsokak: then have a go, could be good. I don't have a large enough system to play so can't do it12:39
sokakActionParsnip, would you like a fresh kidney? i've just finished to pay my graphic card, and i am short on money :) *hands out a kidney*12:40
foleygermanyive cant send an sms via smstoolserver on ubuntu 10.04 unless i pluged in and changed my surfstick mode (what works fine) cause i cant find the device name/mehtode for the smsserver12:40
bennwhen i insert my monitor in my laptop it creates a new workspace..i dont want that ...i want it to display the same workspace how to do it?12:40
sokakits cheap ;o12:40
tioxsokak: 8GB RAM does exist.12:41
SpandexCiao12:41
Spandex!list12:41
sokaktiox, youre speaking of ddr3?12:41
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tioxYep.12:41
tioxHold on, lemme look.12:41
foleygermany ive cant send an sms via smstoolserver on ubuntu 10.04 unless i pluged in and changed my surfstick mode (what works fine) cause i cant find the device name/mehtode for the smsserver has there someone an solution???12:41
Gentoo64foleygermany, if no one has answered, no one knows12:41
foleygermanyhmm shit :(12:42
Culindeed12:42
MonkeyDustsokak  you load all your os'es in ram?12:42
lalagirl!language | foleygermany12:42
ubottufoleygermany: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.12:42
bennwhen i insert my monitor in my laptop it creates a new workspace..i dont want that ...i want it to display the same workspace how to do it?12:43
sokakMonkeyDust, no, i was thinking to ram load just the linux host :)12:43
Gentoo64sokak, what would be the point?12:43
sokakGentoo64, to speed it up to the max?It makes low sense to have ram and not using it12:43
lalagirlhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!12:43
tioxsokak, I forgot what publication of Maximum PC brought this to light, so my information may be off-base. But I think they said Corsair has single-stick DDR3 8GB RAM planned for market.12:43
foleygermanyand where can i go now dont know any solution,trayed all (also launchpad and mailinglist) and dont get an answer12:43
Gentoo64sokak, you are using the ram, as you go12:44
sokaktiox, nevermind my mobo stops at 16 Gb :)12:44
sokakhttp://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_AM3/M4N98TD_EVO/#specifications12:44
tioxHelps to look. :)12:44
tioxSo yeah, 4x4GB would be your max.12:45
sokakYep Gentoo64 but the point is that linux doesnt slugs when you fill up ram almost to the brim12:45
vanderleifdfs12:45
lalagirli love AMD12:45
sokaki had a hard time to notice docky leaking 6 gb of ram xD12:45
Gentoo64sokak, you mean when it huts swap?12:45
tioxThen when you eat into swap RAM on the HDD, you feel the bite of no memory atall.12:45
sokaki agree with you all, but filling up 8 gb is yet an hard task, i think that even using multiple vms, it will be hella hard to hit the swap12:46
lalagirlhttp://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_2011/Rampage_IV_Extreme/12:46
tioxWhile I do not advise using it on a system with sufficient memory, for rigs with low memory the zramswap package may be of interest.12:47
Gentoo64sokak, yeah, i run vms (nor loads at a time) with 4gb12:47
tioxIf you're interested in giving it a try, I'll find the PPA I got it from. Web Upd8 is usually awesome about spotlighting software and putting it in a PPA.12:47
Gentoo64zramswap?12:48
sokakGentoo64, i run them just to give help :) I moved to linux when i noticed that i can run *many windows at once* to help without slugging at all :) Its so comfy to swap on the fly windows as needed :)12:48
Gentoo64reminds me of when people on windows put their pagefile on ramdisk lol12:48
tioxI'll link to the article instead.12:48
sokakGentoo64, i've been there xD12:48
Gentoo64sokak, its pointless :)12:48
tioxhttp://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/increased-performance-in-linux-with.html12:49
sokakGentoo64, i remember the good old times i was starting dos, and running doom2 in a ramdisk on my old cyrix 486 :)12:49
sokak32 mb of ram ^^12:49
Gentoo64tbh the ram disk thing has been tried so many times, its so old skool. people use it more for temp files then for speed improvements12:50
High_Priestsokak, dooom :)))12:50
* High_Priest remembers it12:50
Gentoo64rememver disco mode?12:50
Gentoo64lol12:50
sokaklol12:50
High_Priestyeah dos.. and novell network on bnc12:50
High_PriestI had that12:50
sokakHa! Im seeking my doom floppies, doomsday time in 3,2,112:50
High_Priestsokak, you don't have to.. it's open and freely downloadable12:51
MonkeyDusti play doom in vbox XP12:51
High_Priestsokak, I even saw a project where you can play it in web browser xD12:51
sokakHigh_Priest, handling again those precious original floppies, is sort of a balm for the heart12:51
sokakHigh_Priest, just rockbox an ipod video 5th gen, and play doom on it >:D Jawdropping people guaranteed.12:52
tioxSo what's your poison? pkboom? freedoom? zdoom?12:52
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High_Priestsokak, I understand.. but do you have a floppy drive? I threw away mine long time ago12:53
sokakohh myyy, ultimate doom cdrom spotted :3 *cuddles the original cdrom*12:53
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tioxHigh_Priest: Shame on you.12:53
Gentoo64sokak, did you play BF2?12:53
* Humbedooh still has his first lappy with an awesome floppy drive and monochrome screen of spiffyness!12:54
tioxIf it were not broken and unusable, you could had externalized it and used it via USB with DOSBox or Wine.12:54
Humbedooh80mb harddisk :o12:54
sokakHigh_Priest, on my lan my ooold 486 cyrix is still up and running :3 Its my local webserver12:54
High_Priestlol nice :)12:54
sokaki had no heart to throw it away x3 Think of it as an undersized overconsuming nas12:55
High_Priestoh hell12:56
High_Priestseems that doom on the web was taken down due to legal/infrigement notice12:56
tioxOr... you couldbuy an external USB floppy drive. Oh well.12:56
sokakTell me you threw away your old hardware, and ill tell u liar12:56
tioxHigh_Priest: I bet. Good things tend to go away like that.12:56
Gentoo64I'm not an admin here, but maybe to #ubuntu-offtopic?12:57
sokakX3you are right, pardon me about the mess12:57
tristanStrangehey all. can anyone tell me how to add this ppa to my system? https://launchpad.net/~dinisnoise/+archive/din/+packages12:57
pepperhey12:57
BennitHi12:57
tristanStrangethere's no ppa: type url12:58
High_PriestGentoo64, right, but this is a friendly nerdy chit chat.. no topic related activities.. (at the time)12:58
BennitI've got this problem with empathy: I changed the password to my google account and empathy won't remember the new one I enter12:58
tristanStrangei presume i use apt-add-repository?12:58
Gentoo64High_Priest, yeah I know lol just saying before someone else does :p12:58
peppersomeone please assist. what is the best option for cyber cafe  management software for ubuntu12:58
qsdSuicide en live http://foyermarcinellois.eu/index.php?file=News&op=suite&news_id=213:00
MonkeyDustpepper  what do you want to use?13:02
MonkeyDustit depends on how you want to organise your cyber café13:03
TimvdeMy notifications aren't working anymore (I guess I once disabled it somehow, but I don't remember), how can I put them back on? (Ubuntu 10.10)13:04
tatarackarack guitar processor not work on my pc, why13:13
MonkeyDust!info rackarack13:15
ubottuPackage rackarack does not exist in oneiric13:15
MonkeyDustwhat's rackarack?13:15
Matrixiumnafk13:16
atxqafter connecting a logitech usb wireless keyboard, my touchpad on my laptop stopped working. I am using gnome 3. When I logout of gnome 3 back into the login screen, my touchpad works again. Anyone know what the issue might be?13:16
swebhow can ii update all packages ?13:20
swebsudo apt-get update ?13:20
sagacisweb, and then sudo apt-get upgrade13:21
vjonssonit's sudo apt-get upgrade13:21
tatarakarrack13:21
MonkeyDusttata  ask in #ubuntustudio13:23
MonkeyDustit's an ubuntu studio package13:23
wadkarhow do I find/contact maintainer of the package vpnc ?13:23
wadkarI need support/help/report bug for vpnc13:24
MonkeyDustwadkar  try apt-cache show vpnc13:24
TimvdeMy notifications aren't working anymore (I guess I once disabled it somehow, but I don't remember), how can I put them back on? (Ubuntu 10.10)13:25
willliamherryhi13:26
NickinatorHey13:26
swebsagaci: ty13:26
ribothi13:31
riboti'm trying to run a cronjob but it doesn't run13:31
lishimiaoi've no idea what cronjob does...13:32
geirharibot: Which crontab, what's the crontab line you added, and how do you determine it doesn't run?13:33
ribotgeirha: i did "crontab -e" as root, the line is "30 14 * * * /root/auto_backup/mysql_backup" and it's supposed to upload some files which don't appear.. running the line manually however works13:34
riboti did this at 14:29 hrs according to server time13:34
geirharibot: Most likely, it doesn't find some of the commands because PATH is different.13:34
ribotgeirha: it's an absolute path13:35
geirharibot: Oh, also, give it at least two minutes to read the job13:35
theadminribot: The paths in the script might also be unstandard.13:35
riboti've been waiting 5 minutes13:35
theadminribot: So try to use absolute binary names inside the script I guess13:35
ribotit's supposed to be that difficult?13:36
theadminribot: Not sure, well, if PATH is your problem then maybe13:36
geirharibot: Typically, when cron runs the script, it's PATH will only contain /usr/bin and /bin, so the best thing to do is set PATH to all the directories you need at the start of the script13:36
ribotso i need to edit the script too?13:37
geirharibot: That's one possibility, you can also set PATH in crontab13:37
ribotso maybe it doesn't understand "mysqldump"13:38
geirharibot: For debugging, you can put the following line at the start of the script     exec >/tmp/scriptoutput 2>&1    It will redirect all output of the script to a file in /tmp13:39
ribothow do i know the path to mysqldump and curl?13:39
geirharibot: ''type mysqldump'', ''type curl''13:39
geirharibot: or   type -a mysqldump   to reveal all locations13:40
Spandexciao13:41
Spandex!list13:41
ubottuThis is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».13:41
ribotthanks geirha13:41
goldping13:41
MonkeyDustgeirha  why not just exec > /tmp/scriptoutput ?13:41
ribotpong13:41
geirhaMonkeyDust: That only redirects stdout, not stderr where errors are usually printed.13:42
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theadmingeirha: Then add 2>&1 to redirect stderr to stdout13:43
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theadmingeirha: Or 2>file to redirect stderr to file13:43
swebwhat is ubuntu firewall configuraton app such as csf ?13:43
geirhatheadmin: ... that's what I did13:43
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swebshotwall somthing like that ?13:44
theadminsweb: Shorewall?13:44
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ioannishi13:44
swebtheadmin: ty. i forget that name13:44
sweb;)13:44
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geirhagolden: Please choose a nick and stick with it. You're spamming nick changes.13:45
ribotgeirha: the scriptoutput isn't created... do i need cron to wait a few minutes before i add the command therE? it doesn't even run13:46
curiousxaloha13:46
geirharibot: Yes, as I said, you need to give it at least two minutes13:47
buyung_:D13:47
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gold*nickserv!irc.freenode.org@irc.jabber.me.uk NOTICE: This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify <password>.13:51
goldhello all13:51
gold:-D13:51
anandhow to remove unity and use gonme 2 in ubuntu 11.0413:51
goldwere u from13:52
OerHeksanand, it is not possible to go back to gnome213:52
OerHeks!nounity13:52
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic13:52
goldanand:13:52
SuperNoeManhey anyone know anything about the python wave api?13:52
SuperNoeManI'm having some trouble13:52
anandgold: i am not getting u?13:53
bazhanganand, select classic from the log in window13:53
theadminOerHeks: (s)he said "11.04"13:53
theadminOerHeks: That still had gnome213:53
anandtheadmin: yes it's 11.04 not 11.1013:53
goldtiger_13:54
theadminanand: Log out, click the "Sessions" dropdown, select "Ubuntu Classic", log back in.13:54
bazhanggold do you have an ubuntu support question13:54
anandtheadmin: i want to remove unity and keep gnome 2 only is it possible13:54
anand?13:54
qawsedrfhow do i install oracle sun jdk ?13:54
theadminanand: Log into gnome2 and delete Unity (apt-get remove unity) then13:54
darkangelI'm using gnome shell and the menus disappeared, all I see is the desktop, why is this?13:54
bazhanganand, select classic from login window13:54
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bazhang!nickspam > golden13:55
ubottugolden, please see my private message13:55
anandtheadmin: ok thanks13:55
ribotgeirha: i didn't understand two minutes in what direction?13:55
r_a_fhi all - can I move all from one partition to other, then change grub2  - system should work?13:55
goldenbazhang: ??13:56
bazhanggolden, do you have an actual support question? please stop with the constant nick changes as well13:56
goldenbazhang: I also do not know why my nick changed his own13:58
VCoolior_a_f: you can do that. read up on grub2, it will go wrong the first time and you'll be left with the grub prompt :)13:58
goldenbazhang: where u from??13:59
r_a_fVCoolio: ok thanks ;)13:59
BluesKajHiyas all13:59
bazhang!ot | golden13:59
ubottugolden: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!13:59
hanfenghello13:59
goldenhanfeng: hello to14:00
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qawsedrfhow do i install oracle sun jdk ?14:00
alfatau\quit14:01
goldbazhang: what u use application14:01
diverdudeI have ubuntu 10.10 server ed. running on a machine. Harddisk is now full. I have bought a new harddisk which i want to insert. Can i just turn of the computer, connect the harddisk and will ubuntu then automatically find and mount the new harddisk?14:01
diverdudeits a 1.5 TB disk14:01
asthohey14:01
asthoim having some trouble flashing my bios, can someone helo?14:01
astho*help14:02
theadmindiverdude: Yep, that'll work14:02
theadmindiverdude: It's just a storage unit, lol, how can it POSSIBLY not work?14:02
Churchif it's preformatted with some known fs, maybe14:02
Churchotherwise you'll probably need to create some partitions & format fs14:03
theadminWell yeah Church is right14:03
diverdudetheadmin, ok thats nice. Where will it then be located? And can i make it so that a specific user has access to 90% of the harddisk?14:03
theadmindiverdude: "90%"? Huh?14:03
theadmindiverdude: And it will be located whereever you mount it. You need to format it first though14:03
Churchi'm guessing you'll also need to move some files off your currently filled up fs to new one later one, unless you use lvm for it and can pvcreate/vgextend/lvextend/growfs for existing fs14:04
asthoanyone's got a toshiba z830?14:04
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oCeanastho: you got a hardware issue, ask in ##hardware14:05
theadminChurch: From what I understand, this isn't supposed to be a primary (OS) drive14:05
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Kurdistanhi the kernel from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ is there any way to add the ubuntu patches to them? if so, how?14:07
Kurdistanhttp://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/  <<<---- I understand this kernels are vanilla kernels without ubuntu patches14:08
diverdudetheadmin, do i manually have to mount it every time i turn on the system?14:08
devid19! devid19 saluta tutti14:09
ubottudevid19: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:09
Cradamhi, does anyone know of a script that is fired when your resolution is changed by a game?14:09
crasherhellow14:11
dragonslayhwllow14:11
crasherjust installed ubuntu for a run14:12
crasherand it works greate14:12
MonkeyDustbut14:12
dragonslaybut14:12
MrClawShould Pidgin automatically set my status to offline when I suspend my laptop?14:12
MrClawAs in, does it do it normally?14:12
crasherempathy is working nice for me14:13
dragonslayMrClaw, use the preferences14:13
MrClawdragonslay: I can't find a relevant one. :(14:13
MrClawcrasher: Does it do it?14:13
crasherwhat claw?14:14
MrClawcrasher: Set your status to "Offline" when you suspend Ubuntu?14:14
crasheri didnt checked14:14
crasherbut im sure it does14:14
crasherbecause, its like turning your pc off14:14
MrClawAha. I don't think it happens in Pidgin.14:14
dragonslayMrClaw, do you want it to go offline when you resume from suspend?14:15
MrClawcrasher: Basically, the idea is that when you suspend and your IM program doesn't send a signal to your IM servers that you're going offline, people will think you're still connected while you aren't until your connection times out.14:15
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MrClawdragonslay: I want it to go to offline when I suspend, and then back to the status from pre-suspension when I resume.14:15
crasherI think is does that automaticly14:16
crasherautomatic14:16
dragonslayMrClaw, put a script in appropriate runlevel14:16
MrClawcrasher: And also, your server might think the same, thus not delivering the messages sent to you between the suspension and when your connection times out.14:16
Pathf1nderwhat is the command to extract bz2?14:17
MrClawdragonslay: Right, but it should be a standard feature, don't you think? :) Besides, I have submitted the idea to brainstorm.ubuntu.com, and it got rejected, because I think they said it's already implemented.14:17
MrClawPathf1nder: tar xjf14:17
MonkeyDustMrClaw  you could suspend and when you resume, ask your contacts what your status was14:17
crashereh maybe is a program with pidgin14:17
MrClawMonkeyDust: I am pretty sure it doesn't change, but I will.14:17
crasherproblem*14:17
MrClawcrasher: Yeah, since Empathy is the default IM program now.14:17
crasheryou didnt tryed MrClaw?14:18
crasherim sure when you suspend your pc you wil go offline14:18
akira__Hello?14:18
MrClawcrasher: I haven't, because I was sure it doesn't happen (I lose messages)14:18
crasherhellow14:18
crasherwhen yes, of course you lose messanges14:18
crasherlike in windows14:18
akira__What iare you talking about?14:19
crasherwhen you close the messenger you lose the message14:19
crasheryou should try14:19
MrClawcrasher: I'll explain in a second. I'm testing the thing with a friend. :)14:19
crasheroki14:19
phiil_http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-recover-deleted-files-with-lsof-command.html14:19
crasherabout pigdin akira14:20
akira__What is pigdin?14:20
willliamherrypidgin14:20
Kurdistanany one?14:20
devid19!devid19 saluta14:21
crashersorry14:21
crasherI miss type14:21
akira__Are you Linux users?14:21
theadminakira__: Most of us, yes.14:21
akira__Heh...14:21
phiil_is ubuntu windows14:21
bazhangakira__, actual ubuntu support question?14:21
theadminakira__: Not everyone here runs Ubuntu though14:21
theadminphiil_: You again?...14:22
phiil_hehehe14:22
crasheris that a question phiil?14:22
crasher:)14:22
phiil_statement/question14:22
bazhangphiil_, wrong channel14:22
theadminbazhang: Please ban phiil_. Yesterday he was here claiming "Ubuntu ripped everything off Fedora", now he asks "is Ubuntu Windows", and never has any support issues.14:22
MrClawcrasher: Right.14:22
MrClawcrasher: I've checked with a friend and Ubuntu doesn't tell Pidgin to go offline when I suspend.14:22
crasheroh so it stays online?14:23
MonkeyDustMrClaw  now you know14:23
MrClawcrasher: The thing is that between the time the computer suspends and the server realizes you aren't in fact connected (if you don't tell it that explicitly), the server thinks you're offline and sends the messages to you14:23
MrClawcrasher: But it doesn't care if they get delivered - it just assumes they have.14:23
MrClawcrasher: So effectively, you lose them.14:23
crashermhm i understand14:23
crashergood to know14:23
Cradamwhat are the chances of not being had a go at for reposting my question, never mind, here goes:14:23
slakcphilphiil_ do you pronounce your name like, feeel?14:24
akira__I am looking for Japanese forum.14:24
slakcphil:)14:24
MonkeyDust!jp| akira__14:24
Cradamdoes anyone know of a script that is fired when your resolution is changed by a game?14:24
ubottuakira__: 日本語の場合は /join #ubuntu-jp または /join #kubuntu-jp を入力して下さい。14:24
phiil_slakcphil:yes, i have very strong feelings14:24
MrClawcrasher: So a solution to that would either be to fix the protocol to retry until it gets a confirmation that it's been delivered, or just notify the IM program of closing the computer, so it can tell the server that you're offline now and not to deliver the messages to you until you reconnect.14:24
phiil_like feeeel14:24
phiil_yes14:24
slakcphilha14:24
akira__Many thanks. Ubottu14:24
bazhang!ot | phiil_14:24
ubottuphiil_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:24
crasherIl do a test also14:25
crashersee how it works14:25
MrClawcrasher: Do you have a Jabber/XMPP account?14:25
crasherno14:25
akira__Nobody there.14:25
MrClawcrasher: MSN?14:25
colton_What is the best book to study LPIC level 1 - exam 101??14:25
crasheryahoo14:26
MrClawcrasher: Ah, I can't test that with you then. :)14:26
MrClawcrasher: But the test I did is this: tell a friend to watch your IM status for a minute (whether you go offline), suspend your PC, wait a minute and resume its work.14:26
Cradamakira__: http://forum.ubuntulinux.jp/14:26
MrClawcrasher: And ask the friend if you went offline.14:26
oCeancolton_: maybe try #ubuntu-offtopic, since that's not a technical support question14:26
Cradamakira__: btw, that was a quick google away14:26
slakcphilwhen using grep in this fashion--> `cat list | grep -i zed`  that prints all the words with zed of course, is there a way to get it to print only the words that end in zed and slim down output to a length of less than 9?14:27
crasherI think there is a period of time, in witch the server responses14:27
theadmincrasher: You can make Pidgin go offline before suspending by somehow making this system run this before suspending: "purple-remote 'setstatus?status=offline'"14:27
varikonniemihello, i added google to my ubuntu online account, but my google calendar entries are not coming to ubuntu calendar, what am i missing?14:27
crashernot right away14:27
Cradamakira__: for other links see http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/locallanguage#japanese14:27
dragonslayMrClaw, do not expect software to do all the job for ya.. you can do it manually :P14:27
Zed`OMG I've been greped14:27
MrClawdragonslay: But sometimes I move from room to room and I'd like my program to tell my friends I'm currently not available, so that I don't have to ask them every time: "have you messaged me? I had to suspend".14:27
crasherhehe probabily14:27
theadminslakcphil: cat list | grep -i "zed\$" # Will search for words which end in zed14:27
MrClawdragonslay: ... in case I have lost messages from them.14:28
slakcphiltheadmin, thx!14:28
akira__Can Japanese gather in ubuntu-jp, I mean is it possible?14:28
MrClawMy idea is that the OS should send a DBus message: "I'm suspending!", and then all the programs that care would listen and act accordingly. :)14:29
slakcphili think i can use python len() to trim the ouput!14:29
crasherdid you checked the preferences options?14:29
akira__No.14:29
theadminslakcphil: To search for stuff which begins in zed, use: grep -i "\^zed"14:29
dragonslayMrClaw, you could set your status to idle14:29
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varikonniemiso no-one is using the online accounts feature with calendar?14:30
devid19http://xdcc_9714:31
MonkeyDustvarikonniemi  doesnt ring a bell14:31
MrClawcrasher: Yes.14:32
tightworknom nom nom nom14:34
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tightworkI quit my job yesterday... was SOO cool14:35
crashergood job:)14:35
DragonSlaytightwork, good14:35
bazhang!ot | tightwork14:35
ubottutightwork: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:35
tightworkbut i got a ubuntu related job14:35
tightworkso its related14:35
tightworkthx guy14:35
DragonSlaylol14:35
bazhangtightwork, not for this channel.14:35
tightwork!killjoy14:36
bazhanglets move it to #ubuntu-offtopic tightwork14:36
devid19!list14:37
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devid19devid19 saluta14:37
devid19!list14:38
abysiMohi guys , i wanna know if there is still something like a mentor , i find it difficult to find my way in this huge learning curve ..14:39
theadminabysiMo: You can pm me anytime I here, I'm glad to help out newbies :D I also have a few IM services14:39
CradamabysiMo: same here14:39
ioannisboys  go to play ww.darkorbit.com europi 414:40
theadminlolspamfail14:40
ioanniswww.darkorbit.com*14:40
bazhangioannis, dont advertise here14:40
DragonSlayquit()14:41
Cradamoh come on, atleast choose a good game to spam with14:41
Negat1ve-Zer0hmmm14:41
tightworkhaha he typod' his spam14:41
DragonSlaylol14:41
ioanniswrite in google darkorbit14:42
theadmin:/14:42
bazhangioannis, stop that14:43
theadminioannis: Stop it until you get hit with a banhammer14:43
Negat1ve-Zer0I'm curious....you know how you can wipe out a file (not delete) by doing cat /dev/null > filename. I assume that just writes a zero byte (EOF delimiter) to the file and tells unix that the file is basically empty....say that file space wasn't written over, could you change that first zero byte to something else and get the data in that file back?14:43
theadminNegat1ve-Zer0: /dev/null is a constantly empty file. All you basically do is copy it to "filename", turning "filename" into an empty file.14:44
Humbedoohthat would depend on the size of the file14:45
Humbedoohsome partition chunks might be reused for other files14:45
MrClawcrasher: Have you tested the behaviour of Empathy on the suspension issue?14:46
Negat1ve-Zer0Humbedooh: hmmm according to theadmin it wipes the whole file14:46
HumbedoohI wouldn't think it writes all zeros in the whole file14:48
Humbedoohbut it might just reallocate the file somewhere else when overriding it14:48
crasherMrClaw: when I suspend my laptot, it dosent go offline14:48
Negat1ve-Zer0I'm assuming it doesn't write over that data though since the resulting file is a 0 byte file...of course it could just hit the first 0 and eof which it prob does anyways14:48
Humbedoohthe data should be somewhere on the disk yes14:48
Negat1ve-Zer0the data would be in its same physical location14:48
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Humbedoohyes but filename might not be14:49
Negat1ve-Zer0I'm assuming that the cat /dev/null > filename also doesn't actually free that space14:49
ioannis_bazhang, What is your problem everyone here advertising14:49
geirhaNegat1ve-Zer0: You don't need cat /dev/null.  Just  > filename  will turncate the file.14:49
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geirhaNegat1ve-Zer0: It does free the space14:49
Humbedoohit would depend on how many clusters the file covered14:49
Negat1ve-Zer0well I guess I'll just have to test it14:50
Humbedoohyou won't get your files back unless you get down to some basic low-level manipulation :>14:50
Negat1ve-Zer0yea, I'm not worried, didn't lose any data...just curious14:51
Humbedoohif you write 1 byte to the file, it would still only be 1 byte long14:51
Negat1ve-Zer0right...but the question is14:51
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Negat1ve-Zer0lets say I had a eh I dunno...50 byte file..and I > filename so it makes it a 0 byte file...does that put one 0 where the data is effectively telling the os hey..eof is reached immediately so it's a 0 byte file and essentially only one byte of 50 is actually erased on the disk...so 49 would be theoretically recoverable if that zero were changed?14:53
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NeedHelpHello, how could i set LVDS size manualy?14:54
slakcphilNegat1ve-Zer0, i would think yes, check and make sure the inode is the same as the original file14:54
ripthejackerplease help14:54
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Negat1ve-Zer0slackcphil: ah, good thinkin14:54
HumbedoohNegat1ve-Zer0, try reopening the file, seeking to byte 50 and write one byte :)14:55
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ripthejackergraphics issue with my ati radeon 645014:55
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Humbedoohjoin the club, ripthejacker  :)14:55
ripthejackerlol14:55
Humbedoohtried the alternate drivers?14:56
ripthejackerbut how do i get past installation ??14:56
chrislsphello, is there anyone here to help me with audio installation??14:56
Humbedoohpast what installation?14:57
Humbedoohif you can't start up at all, use recovery mode14:57
ripthejackereven if i can get it installed i can download and install the driver14:57
chrislspI don't have sound on my laptop.At first i had only using headphones14:58
chrislspbut now aftes a lot of commands i don't have any sound14:58
chrislspi am on ubuntu 10.0414:58
chrislspdo you know how can i install drivers from the beggining??14:58
chrislspthanks14:58
DragonSlay!flood14:59
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what_ifJust upgraded the sun-java-xxxx packages on my Ubuntu 10.10 system. Now every browser says java is not installed....15:00
fogdarthi there15:02
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blackshirtHi fogdart15:02
Cradam!pastebinit15:02
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fogdarti have a question about xubuntu window manager themes .. unfortunately noone responds in xubunto channels ...15:02
chrislspis anyone here available for helping me out15:03
chrislsp?15:03
chrislsp:(15:03
ripthejackerhow do i install from live usb without the GUI15:03
blackshirtFogdart, exactly what the problems?15:03
oCeanwhat_if: the upgrade did actually remove the oracle java, as per http://goo.gl/x3gcg The repositories no longer provide Oracle/Sun java15:04
blackshirtchrislsp, what the problem?15:04
fogdarti habe the latest xubuntu installed. as a have a nice 30" screen the windows sizing borders are far to small to hit with the mouse. what must i do to change this. (old methodes i knew from ubuntu dont seem to work anymore15:04
crashercya later15:04
what_ifoCean: Had no idea... thats so odd. Thank you :)15:05
me-1hi....how can I learn some useful terminal commands..?15:05
helo1Hey guys I'm having an nfs failure here. The following message shows up in dmesg after trying to list the contents of the export on a mac osx client:15:05
helo1"[79615.137072] rpcbind: server <client_hostname> not responding, timed out"15:05
helo1I am able to successfully mount the share and access everything fine in the command line, but as soon as I try to access the folder in finder, I get a disconnect message (and 2-6 iterations of that error in dmesg/syslog). Does anyone have any idea what might cause this?15:05
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blackshirtFogdart,are you sure ? My xubuntu look and works normally15:05
Negat1ve-Zer0Humbledooh: I guess the question is now, from the command line how do I change one byte...presumably overwriting the first null byte, not just putting data in front of it15:06
blackshirtMe-1, what you want?15:06
fogdartI have the latest xubuntu installed.  As I have a nice 30" screen the window sizing borders are far to small to hit with the mouse. What must i do to change this. (Old methodes (via metacity xml) do not seem to work anymore)15:07
fogdartblackshirt - it works nice but is not ergonomic on 30" rez15:07
enavhappy new year http://i.imgur.com/jKVnd.png15:08
NeedHelpHow fix bad lcd reported size?15:09
fogdartblackshirt - in 2560x1600 the 2 pixel sizing border is simply to hard to hit15:09
compdocits too hard to hit at any rez15:09
enavwindows border?15:09
fogdartwell but it seems noone cares althoug thay do this for years nw15:10
compdocI cannot imagine what people with motor skill problems have to go thru15:10
fogdartyup window sizing border in xubuntu15:10
enavfogdart: you are talking about window borders ?15:10
blackshirtFogdart, could we resize it through their properties.?15:10
fogdartenav - window sizing border (for mice) yes15:10
enavfogdart: you can change the windows size in a better way press alt+middle mouse button and drag15:11
fogdartyes .. it worked on goold old ubuntu inside the metacity xml configs ..but since they all fucked up the gui nothing works15:11
oCeanfogdart: control your language here, please15:11
fogdartok ok .. :-)15:11
enavfogdart: is way better than hit the borders15:11
fogdartenav -- i dont want to change my working methodes .. im used to this for decades.15:12
enavfogdart: is ok but just try it for 2 hours and you will love it15:12
enavyou can change your win size at any place of the win are15:13
enavarea*15:13
fogdartnope i wont as i work on multiple platforms and this is the common methode ..15:13
sl1ckIs there any way to remove gnome and unity (as installed and prefer LXDE)?15:13
fogdart... and i dont want to damage my brain as much as possible15:13
enavfogdart: are you using compiz?15:13
fogdartim using latest xubuntu whatever that is15:14
enavsl1ck: you can install  lubuntu the unofficial version but is quite nice and fast15:14
blackshirtSl1ck,yes,you can do it15:14
sl1ckblackshirt: any tips?15:15
sl1ckenav: I would like to avoid another OS (re)install15:15
bazhangsl1ck, lubuntu-desktop package15:15
blackshirtFogdart,yeah, i have xfce desktop with 12.04 alpha release15:15
sl1ckbazhang: ?15:16
blackshirtSlick,like bazhang says15:16
bazhangsl1ck, to get lxde/openbox =lubuntu15:16
enavsl1ck: if im you i will reinstall because is a faster process with no collateral flaws15:16
bazhangso install the lubuntu-desktop meta package15:16
blackshirtSl1ck,install lubuntu-desktop15:16
fogdartblackshirt ??15:16
blackshirtYes,fogdart15:17
sl1ckblackshirt: what will happen to the already existing gnome and unity? Or are you suggesting diff OS install?15:17
fogdartblackshirt -- i mean what you you wanted to tell me ?15:17
bazhangsl1ck, select it from the login window after that15:17
* dleonardi is installing ubuntu 8.10 on an OQO model 0215:18
dleonardiwish me luck15:18
bazhangdleonardi, thats not supported15:18
dleonardiwhat isnt15:18
bazhangdleonardi, that olde version isnt15:18
dleonardithats all i got drivers for.15:19
sl1ckI already Am utilizing LXDE, my aim is to ditch gnome and unity and 'unclog' my seemingly old laptop15:19
dleonardiif i feel unlucky, ill upgrade.15:19
blackshirtSl1ck,no reinstall,you can purging your unity,gnome,or other..or just choose session through display login15:19
bazhangdleonardi, that doesnt make sense15:19
dleonardibazhang: no kernel modules for a specific kernel version makes more sense then i hope?15:19
bazhangdleonardi, which ones15:20
sl1ckOK, which packages should I tell apt-get to purge?15:20
sl1ckI guess this is  the question15:20
blackshirtFogdart,try look at xfce config setting15:20
sl1ckin my bid to remove gnome and unity15:20
bazhanghttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde sl1ck15:20
sl1ckthanks bazhang, what about unity?15:21
bazhangsl1ck, checked the link yet?15:22
blackshirtSl1ck, purge your unity,compiz,gnome if you have them15:22
sl1ckbazhang: it mentions [x,u,k,ed]buntu nothing about unity15:23
bazhangsl1ck, the link certainly *does* mention unity15:24
Guest37852thanks for letting me watch15:27
debainohow can i repair a broken ubuntu 10.04 lts?15:28
nyancattthow to enable java in ubuntu firefox15:29
compdockinda depends on whats broken15:29
bazhang!details | debaino15:29
ubottudebaino: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."15:29
blackshirtDebaino,what packages causing broken?15:30
debainoDetails,sorry for that.I tried fixing the screen resolution for ubuntu 10.04 and restarted the machine.I edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf now the system cannot start as it should.15:31
supuerswhat did you edit out15:32
MrClawcrasher: OK, thanks. :-)15:32
mensvagaIs there a way to encrypt the partition Ubuntu installs on using the graphical installer?  I see documentation on doing it in text mode, but I don't know how to get into the text mode.15:32
mensvagaI've downloaded the 11.11 iso.15:33
nyancattthow do i find out where java is installed or not ?15:33
nyancatttwhether15:33
supuersYou can I believe only do it on install unless you are runnning the server edition.15:33
lytithwynnyancatt: `dpgk --get-selections | grep java` would be a good place to start15:34
mensvagasupuers: good enough :)15:34
mensvagaI'll try that.  thanks15:34
debainoanyone?15:34
supuersthere may be a work around but not sure15:34
oCeanmensvaga: visit this page http://java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp, it should start an java applet15:34
mensvagaoCean: I didn't ask the java question ;)15:34
oCeanmensvaga: I just saw :)15:35
oCeannyancattt: http://java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp15:35
nyancattti type java-verion on terminal it say unkkonow command15:35
supuerswhereis java15:35
oCeannyancattt: java -version there should be a space15:35
chrislspblackshirt are you still available?15:36
mensvaganyancattt: dpkg -l |grep -i java15:37
nyancatttok now it shows theversion but how to enable it on firefox ?15:37
compitzhi guys15:38
compitzc_smith, are you there?15:38
lytithwynnayncattt: that's a separate package.  It's either icedtea-plugin or icedtea6-plugin.  Both are installed on my machine.15:38
lytithwynIcedtea is a java virtual machine implementation.15:39
dr3mrohello , I am trying to build a package in ppa for ubuntu and i fail but it builds locally with no problem any help https://launchpadlibrarian.net/88777465/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-i386.imgizor_0.5~ppa2-0~8~oneiric1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz here is my source code     bzr branch lp:imgizor15:41
Carlos279could not download all repository indexes15:42
nyancatttisn't that icedtea just an alternative ?15:43
compitzhow can I run update-grub in a system thats not mounted/running? possible at all?15:43
Carlos279could not download all repository indexes15:43
Warbarbiehttp://okedoke.ru/15:43
bazhangCarlos279, try switching servers via synaptic15:44
lytithwynIcedtea is an alternative to the sun jvm, and it's the default for the browser plugin on Ubuntu.15:44
Negat1ve-Zer0hmmm is there a way to wipe out the EOF off of a file?15:44
Carlos279Could not download all repository indexes15:45
lytithwynWe'll, I guess now it's the Oracle jvm.  o.015:45
bazhangCarlos279, I answered you, please try that15:45
Negat1ve-Zer0or at least move it (non-sequentially)15:45
areaGood time of day. I play world of warcraft 1.12.1 on xubuntu, but during the game appear a strange texture. Can I fix it?))15:45
Carlos279sorry I didnt readit15:45
Carlos279ok. I am going to try that15:47
Carlos279baz15:47
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VCooliocompitz: you need to at least mount it, then you could chroot into it if you don't want to boot it15:52
compitzVCoolia, i can mount the system15:53
cement_headHas anyone gotten tangerine to work as a music share?15:53
ActionParsnipcement_head: I've always used samba15:53
dr_willis!info tangerine15:54
compitzVCoolio, i can mount the system! its encryted... does that make a difference? what would be the commands? sudo chroot update-grub?15:54
ubottutangerine (source: tangerine): music server using DAAP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.3-3 (oneiric), package size 90 kB, installed size 464 kB15:54
cement_headvia mt-daap?15:54
ActionParsnipcement_head: http://www.go2linux.org/linux/2011/07/share-your-music-library-using-linux-server-daap-and-itunes-1109.html15:55
VCooliocompitz: no, you need to mount the drive, then chroot /yourdrive (which is like booting it), then configure it's grub15:55
VCooliocompitz: see it this helps https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Chroot15:56
oem_please is there  a book reference for commande line errors type15:57
oem_I 'm convaince by the fact that  our experience forms this ab ility to resolve problem15:57
prof#kernel15:58
ActionParsnipcompitz: www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video15:58
cement_headActionParsnip: Thanks, I'll try this out...15:58
oem_ but I m sure too that this kind of book exists15:58
ActionParsnip!manual | oem_15:58
ubottuoem_: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/15:58
munzirHi, how am I supposed to add a local printer?15:58
munzirsystem-config-printer shows only network printer15:59
ActionParsnipmunzir: try:  firefox http://localhost:63116:00
projektlabori need help16:00
oem_ok16:00
projektlaborhow i can remove wine, wine tricks16:00
oem_ubottu: ok16:00
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)16:00
compitzVCoolia, thanks, though do I have to run so many commands? i dont really get the "jail" thing yet .  I think i need the commands adjusted to an encryted system mounted as the first post here tells you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=868681&page=416:00
ActionParsnipprojektlabor: it's a package like any other16:00
compitzVCoolio, thanks, though do I have to run so many commands? i dont really get the "jail" thing yet .  I think i need the commands adjusted to an encryted system mounted as the first post here tells you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=868681&page=416:01
ActionParsnipprojektlabor: use software centre of apt-get16:01
projektlaborit doesent work with apt-get16:01
Dominiol_PLhi16:01
projektlaborhi <Dominiol_PL>16:02
Dominiol_PLfuck16:02
ActionParsnipprojektlabor: sudo apt-get --purge remove wine   should do that16:02
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projektlaborno wine is allready installed16:03
munzirActionParsnip: thanks, in cups page I found an option of local printer, I choose it and it asked me for an ipp, I expected to have something like : HP, Cannon, .. where I can choose a model16:03
ActionParsnipprojektlabor: I thought you wanted to remove it..16:03
VCooliocompitz: sorry, can't help with the encrypted stuff16:03
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ActionParsnipmunzir: that's the old school method :)16:03
ActionParsnipmunzir: you can click to detect new printers16:04
projektlabormy wine is still installed16:04
compitzVCoolio, with this cheat, the system hd is mounted into root, does this help? how do I chroot to this device? and could I run update grub then?16:05
ActionParsnipprojektlabor: can you give a pastebin of:  dpkg -l | grep -i wine; lsb_release -a        Thanks16:05
compitzVCoolio, with this cheat, the system hd is mounted into root--thats the device's NAME - , does this help? how do I chroot to this device? and could I run update grub then?16:05
projektlaborim try it16:05
Carlos279Could not download all repository indexes. I went to synaptic and chosen reload button and the issue persist16:06
compitzVCoolio, SORRY; NOW: with this cheat, the system hd is mounted into "root" --thats the device's NAME - , does this help? how do I chroot to this device? and could I run update grub then?16:06
ActionParsnipCarlos279: can you give the output of:  sudo apt-get update      use a pastebin to host16:07
Carlos279hold on16:08
Carlos279please16:08
projektlaborwine not recognize my windows files16:09
projektlabormy wine not recognize my windows files16:10
projektlaborplease need help16:10
bazhangprojektlabor, you just removed it16:10
rootirc.anonops.li16:11
auronandace!rootirc | root16:11
ubotturoot: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.16:11
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VCooliocompitz: check where the drive is mounted (run 'mount'), then: chroot /mount/point /bin/bash, then: edit grub configs and update grub16:12
oem_what about ping role in web16:12
oem_what about ping role in web mastering16:12
projektlaborhow can I remove it, I've tried it already with the16:12
projektlaborSoftware Center, and apt-get with the console with - reset16:12
dr_willisoem_:  you may want to ask a more clear question.16:13
dr_willisprojektlabor:  clarify what you mean.16:13
mensvagaaren't there ubuntu support channels in other languages?16:13
mensvagaprojektlabor: what is your native language?16:13
dr_willismensvaga:  lost of them16:13
projektlaborwie kann ich es entfernen, ich habe es schon versucht mit dem16:13
projektlaborsoftware cente, apt-get und mit der consolen mit --reset16:13
dr_willisLots of them. :)16:13
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mensvagagerman16:14
dr_willisremoveing wine via the package manager - will not remove windows apps the user installed.16:14
mensvagawhat's the german channle? ubuntu-de?16:14
dr_willis!de16:14
ubottuIn den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!16:14
oem_dr_willis: what 's "ping" role at command line?16:14
dr_willisoem_:  to check network conectity to other machines.16:14
sagredohello friends - today when I try to boot my Ubuntu 11.10 it never reaches GRUB and my monitor writes "OUT OF RANGE 60 Hz / 63 Khz"16:15
sagredowhat in the world16:15
sagredoright?16:15
dr_willisoem_:  http://linux.die.net/man/8/ping16:15
falcomhey guys, file -i doesnt seem to report the encoding of the file for me. it just reports "<filename> text/xml"16:15
oem_dr_willis : ok16:15
dschuettis there a rule of thumb for the order your partitions should be in (e.g /swap, /boot/, /)?16:15
DragonSlay!ping16:15
ubottuanother contentless ping... sigh...16:15
auronandacedschuett: not really, the order doesn't matter16:15
dr_willisdschuett:  ages ago people would argue that swap should be on the start, or the end of the hd.. these days i dont think it matters.16:16
dr_willisdschuett:  ages ago /boot/ was normally befor the 1024 cylinder boundry to make up for lilo limitations also..16:16
sagredohello friends - today when I try to boot my Ubuntu 11.10 it never reaches GRUB and my monitor writes "OUT OF RANGE 60 Hz / 63 Khz"16:16
dr_willisdschuett:  i normally do /boot   /   /home then swap.16:16
sagredodo you think I should boot with liveCD and try to fix errors or something?16:17
dr_willissagredo:   grub has settings to use differnt resolution and modes for its menu. it has a 'text' only display option that should always work. or try a lower res. In any case. grub should still work if its just not seen. and boot the first entry automatically16:17
sagredoah yes16:18
sagredodr_willis16:18
sagredoI do note hard drive activity on the LED16:18
compitzcan anyone help here?16:18
compdocgood question16:18
sagredoDON'T JUMP16:18
dr_willissagredo:  so the system does eventually boot to the desktop?16:18
sagredodr_willis no idea16:18
sagredoI should probably try entering a password and listen for boot sound16:19
dr_willissagredo:  let it boot for a while and see i guess.. if it gets to the desktop, tweak your grub configs.16:19
dschuettdr_willis: thanks for the input. Does the /boot partition need to be a primary partition?16:19
dr_willispassword?16:19
dr_willisdschuett:  i always make mine a primary.16:19
sagredodr_willis you know I cannot even see anything though16:19
sagredohow would I tweak my grub?16:19
sagredovia liveCD?16:19
chris_lspanyone who can help me with ALSA???16:19
dr_willissagredo:  for my systems grub is unseen BUT the desktop eventually comes up.16:19
sagredoI will mess around16:20
sagredothanks16:20
Carlos656ActionParsnip r u there ?16:20
ubuntufreaksagredo: did you update the additional hardware drivers for ( if any) of your graphic cards ?16:20
ActionParsnipCarlos656: jaunty is EOL, no longer supported16:20
chris_lspPlease, i'm so sorry for spamming but really I'm so close to punch my screen!16:21
vivanovcant install a package using apt-build : 'E: The value 'apt-build' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources'16:21
and471,16:21
spazthegoatGood morning =) Does anyone know if it's possible to configure individual virtual machines to use a proxy [not just ie or firefox, but the entire virtual machine]16:22
theadminspazthegoat: I beleive so ; create a shortcut to something like: PROXY=yourproxy.example.org VBoxManage startvm "your_vm_name"16:23
theadminspazthegoat: And use that16:23
theadminspazthegoat: Well, that's if you use VirtualBox16:23
spazthegoatCurrently using VMware, but if it's that easy under virtualbox, I'll go that route16:24
theadminspazthegoat: Basically, if VMWare has a command-line way of starting a VM and reads the $PROXY variable, that will work almost the same.16:25
ActionParsnipspazthegoat: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157516:25
spazthegoatvery good. Trying to use bluestacks to do android emulation testing for an app but it blocks out after more than certain connection of ips16:25
spazthegoatsorry that I had to come in here to ask. My google fu was lacking and running me in circles, so thanks for the pointers in the right direction16:27
theadminspazthegoat: That's okay lol16:27
r_a_fwhat file system is good readable from windo.. and it works under linux/ubuntu?16:27
helo1NTFS16:28
graingertdoes anyone have a live usb image of 11.10 with gnome shell installed?16:28
r_a_fooo thx?16:28
r_a_f:)16:28
theadmingraingert: lol what's the point, use the regular and install gnome-shell later16:28
graingertr_a_f: but don't use it as your root FS16:28
graingerttheadmin: just as a demo16:28
Carlos656ActionParsnip: how can i fix then ?16:28
flukes1I'm trying some 3.1+ kernels on my oneiric install there seems to be a problem with nvidia drivers; whenever I boot into one (i've tried 3.1.0, 3.1.5, 3.1.6) there is an oops in dmesg16:29
theadmingraingert: http://ubuntu-gs-remix.sourceforge.net/p/home/16:29
flukes1this is on i386 (it worked on 3.1.4 x64)16:29
flukes1anyone know of a way to get this working?16:29
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ntiyI try to cp file and I get message "file is busy". how do i fix it? thanks16:30
MahaVishnuntiy~ use sudo ?16:30
Carlos656ActionParsnip r u there ?16:30
graingerttheadmin: I don't want it replaced - just available as well :p16:30
flukes1here's the log http://pastebin.com/0ZFet1Wp16:30
ntiyI d not have sudo on the system16:30
DarkStar1Is a remote desktop viewer installed by default in ubuntu 11.1016:30
munzirActionParsnip: I don't understand why they removed the old school method! may be it's not autodetected properly16:30
DarkStar1?16:30
graingerttheadmin: ie these guys don't have ubuntu-desktop installed16:30
theadmingraingert: Okay, I don't think I know of anything like that.16:30
ActionParsnipmunzir: its always there and always will be :)16:30
DarkStar1If not what would be the easiest?16:31
dr_willisgraingert:  theres some remastered unofficial  variants ive seen mentioned.. but never tried them. Check google, webupd8 or omgubuntu blog sites perhaps.16:31
dr_willisDarkStar1:  connecting over local lan? or internet?16:31
DarkStar1dr_willis: local16:32
dr_willisDarkStar1:  gnome used to have vino, or use some other vnc variant.16:32
dr_willisDarkStar1:  if you want to view the current desktop on the remote. vino i think does it.. vnc has other advanced features for 'hidden' desktops.16:32
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oem_for experience of each own , in how many time can somebody build a minimal OS16:35
MahaVishnuoem_: ?16:35
MonkeyDustoem_  depends on what you require16:35
theadminoem_: Check out LFS... Not this channel16:35
DarkStar1dr_willis: I want to setup a local server so I can RD into it16:35
oem_MonkeyDust: what for exemple16:36
DarkStar1not sure which will be better for local connection, tight/vnc4server16:36
oem_MonkeyDust: what for exemple, please share with me some comparaison to fix me16:36
oem_is LFS the only way to build a minimal OS?16:37
bazhang!minimal | oem_ no16:37
ubottuoem_ no: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD16:37
Carlos656ActionParsnip ?16:37
dr_willisDarkStar1:  depends on the details of what you are doing and how.  I just use ssh and x forwarding to get remote gui apps from my server on my local box. No need to share a whole desktop.16:38
dr_willisoem_:  theres no need to be messing me..16:39
dr_willismesseging. :)16:39
ActionParsnipDarkStar1: what are you doing on the remote box?16:39
DarkStar1ActionParsnip: I want to set iy up to accept connections locaally16:39
dr_willisoem_:  if you want a small linux setup. the tinycorelinux disrto is very handy. starts at 10mb with a gui.16:40
DarkStar1wanted to find out if there was a default server installed16:40
ActionParsnipDarkStar1: yes but to achieve what?16:40
DarkStar1Just to have the box Headless.16:40
DarkStar1ActionParsnip: i.e. no keyboard no mouse16:40
ActionParsnipDarkStar1: there is a default installed, just not activated16:40
ActionParsnipDarkStar1: you can use ssh to update and that sort of thing16:41
DarkStar1isHow do I activate it16:41
ActionParsnipDarkStar1: http://stevenharman.net/blog/archive/2008/12/13/vnc-to-a-headless-ubuntu-box.aspx16:41
DarkStar1ActionParsnip: I know but I need a remote desktop view for one of those times when I want to browse the file system visually to look for solmething16:41
ActionParsnipDarkStar1: using web UIs and SSH is much sleeker16:42
d3ngarHi there16:42
ActionParsnipDarkStar1: you can share folders with samba and access them as windows shares16:42
d3ngarI seem to be unable to connect from one Ubuntu 11.10 to another Ubuntu 11.10 via Samba16:42
ActionParsnipDarkStar1: no need for full desktop view at all16:42
d3ngarI get the dreaded unable to mount command16:42
DarkStar1ActionParsnip: it'll only be accessed locally so I don't need anything secure or complicated16:42
ActionParsnipDarkStar1: its easier, not secure or complicated, samba is easy to setup16:43
b1tbktis there an accepted way to load a preseed config based upon environment? for example if I check processor type and it is intel, use preseed-intel.cfg or if it is amd, use preseed-amd.cfg16:43
DarkStar1ActionParsnip: aaahh yes samba! forgot about that16:43
ActionParsnipDarkStar1: you can then map a network drive and browse the files from windows, or mount the share using nautilus16:43
* ActionParsnip shrugs16:43
DarkStar1I can mount it and an external FS16:43
claudio_70ciao16:44
dr_willisDarkStar1:  remote file access from one linux box to another linux box?16:44
ActionParsnipDarkStar1: yes, using nautilus or map it as a network drive in windows16:44
DarkStar1Ok I'll go set it up now, but I still need the local RD so I can carry on setting up the box. I can't borrow the screen attached to it for much longer16:44
DarkStar1ActionParsnip: Not worried about using it from a Winbox16:45
DarkStar1ActionParsnip: what web UI do you suggest?16:46
ActionParsnipDarkStar1: for what service?16:47
DarkStar1RD view16:47
dr_willis!vnc | DarkStar116:47
ubottuDarkStar1: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX16:47
ActionParsnipDarkStar1: not sue there16:47
ActionParsnip*sure16:47
DarkStar1ActionParsnip: I thought you said a server is installed by default juust not switched on?16:48
ActionParsnipDarkStar1: vino is in the desktop, not sure in the server16:48
DarkStar1I just wanted to know before going to install vnc or tight vnc16:49
d3ngarI'm struggling with setting up my Samba server: I get the "Unable to mount location" error on the client16:50
d3ngarsystem-config-samba gives me an error saying that the module 'glade' is missing16:50
Gentoo64^ ^16:52
Gentoo640 016:52
Gentoo64 o16:52
Gentoo64 _16:52
FloodBot1Gentoo64: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:52
MahaVishnud3ngar: on the client do a smbclient -L ip.of.server16:53
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d3ngarNT_STATUS_INVALID_NETWORK_RESPONSE16:54
d3ngarIs what I get back16:54
ActionParsnipd3ngar: can you ping the IP?16:54
d3ngari can ping the IP though16:54
ActionParsnip:)16:55
d3ngar:)16:55
d3ngarWell16:55
MahaVishnud3ngar: sry never had that problem with samba16:55
d3ngarI also don't know why the system-config-sambe doesn't work16:55
d3ngar:(16:55
MahaVishnuwhat do you need that for? you can hand edit the config file if you need to16:56
d3ngarYes, I know but it's a pain in the testees!16:56
MahaVishnunot really ;-\16:56
Carlos656ActionParsnip ?16:58
MahaVishnushould have named your self RegretCabbage16:59
Carlos656ActionParsnip r u there ?17:00
XiaolinDraconisi wanna make a dvd that autoplays in windows and linux. loaded with retro roms. can someone point me to the right channel?17:01
MahaVishnuXiaolinDraconis: nope17:01
sattyhow to enable input method17:01
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XiaolinDraconisMahaVishnu, as in not gonna happen? mission impossible?17:02
MahaVishnuanything is possible under the yellow sun17:02
XiaolinDraconisthats what i thought17:02
XiaolinDraconisi want a disc that has the programs to play these games17:03
XiaolinDraconisso i can play it on any machine without installing anything17:03
MahaVishnuso put the binaries required in a folder linux and win3217:03
MahaVishnuand the roms in another17:03
XiaolinDraconisthats what i would assume but im quite positive there's more to it17:04
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XiaolinDraconisi know how it works and what not its just the linux side of things is foreign17:04
XiaolinDraconisthere's too many "program files" folders on linux17:05
MahaVishnuwell first off. you would probably need a script for linux17:05
XiaolinDraconisi can write scripts17:05
ribotmy damned cron doesn't work17:05
XiaolinDraconiswell its more of a copy n paste thing but its an educated copy paste17:05
ribothow can it work?17:05
ActionParsnipXiaolinDraconis: what system for, there are emulators in the repos17:06
MahaVishnuI know you can make linux autorun a dvd. does it use the same autorun file as windows? do some research17:06
ActionParsnipribot: tried a reboot?17:06
ActionParsnipMahaVishnu: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc17:06
MahaVishnuActionParsnip: ??17:07
XiaolinDraconisActionParsnip, im gonna have my fave mame, snes, sega, psx games on one disc17:07
ActionParsnipMahaVishnu: its a terminal command17:07
ribotActionParsnip: no, it's not really a good alternative17:07
guest2342question: I have zero ubuntu experience. I installed wine, it says I should run a command in the folder. I don't see any command line in the folder window.17:07
guest2342there isn't any command line at all17:07
ActionParsnipXiaolinDraconis: i see, there are emulators for all, obviously you will need your Playstation ROMS to get the playstation emulator running17:07
MahaVishnuActionParsnip: I know just not sure why you want ME to run it.17:08
XiaolinDraconisMahaVishnu, no it doest use the same autorun feat. i know how that works17:08
ActionParsnipguest2342: press CTRL+Alt+T to get a terminal17:08
ActionParsnipMahaVishnu: yes, its needed to help you...17:08
MahaVishnuXiaolinDraconis: then figure out how it works for linux and have both windows autorun + linux on the dvd + the binaries + roms17:08
czzI'd like to be able to click to any location on a command line and then insert/delete text there. How can i do this?17:08
MahaVishnuActionParsnip: I have no problem right now :-)17:09
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ActionParsnipMahaVishnu: i thought you wanted autorun for dvd?17:09
XiaolinDraconisActionParsnip, i already have the emu's installed i wanna know how i would go about getting them to run from a dvd. and maha was stating that to help me17:09
ActionParsnipMahaVishnu: do you mean video dvd or data?17:09
chrislspHello, I have a problem with my soundcard. I can hear sound only from headphones and not from the laptop speakers. Any ideas??17:09
chrislspthank you17:09
XiaolinDraconisActionParsnip, he has no issue17:09
ActionParsnipchrislsp: what make and model laptop?17:09
MahaVishnuActionParsnip: thats XiaolinDraconis and he wants an autorun dvd for snes emulator or something to work on linux + windows17:09
ActionParsnipMahaVishnu: ahhh I seeeee17:10
munzirActionParsnip: sorry but I am still lost, I want to add an hp monitor with specific model, how can I do this?17:10
chrislspActionParsnip i know it's an amilo17:10
MahaVishnuActionParsnip: and we simply need to know how to make it autorun on linux.17:10
munzirActionParsnip: sorry I mean hp printer17:10
ActionParsnipmunzir: HPLIP will pick that up and install it for you17:10
munzirActionParsnip: now I don't have it connected and still I want to add it17:11
guest2342should I just wait for an answer or ask my question again later?17:11
XiaolinDraconisActionParsnip, im trying to make a data disc that would allow me to play my favorite games on windows and linux without installing anything17:11
XiaolinDraconisActionParsnip, so i could bring it to friends and play on their pc's without intruding17:11
pen_holla17:11
ActionParsnipmunzir: what is the output of: sudo dmidecode --type 117:11
ActionParsnipmunzir: use a pastebin to host17:11
XiaolinDraconisthe windows side i can handle17:12
ActionParsnipXiaolinDraconis: not sure there17:12
ActionParsnipmunzir: or: sudo dmidecode -s system-product-name17:12
BluesKajchrislsp, open a terminal and type alsamixer , use the arrow keys to navigate and turn up the volume on the controls and unmute any ctrls with an M in the box with the M key., also if you have auto mute enable , disable it with up/down arrow key17:13
munzirActionParsnip: HP Pavilion dv6 Notebook PC17:14
MahaVishnuXiaolinDraconis: try asking in ##linux17:14
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guest2342#winehq17:16
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XiaolinDraconisi decided to try and rephrase my google search a few more ways17:18
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chrislspBluesKaj everythning is unmuted and full but still nothing17:18
v0lksmanhello all17:19
sfilivehalo17:19
jusoanyone know a method to put mp3s from ubuntu on iphone?17:19
v0lksmanhow can you tell from dpkg (cmd line only) what source a package comes from?17:19
zer0her0anyone using an ultra book yet?17:20
v0lksmanjuso: last I checked ios5 broke that ability for now17:20
jusov0lksman, damn!17:20
v0lksmanjuso: indeed!17:20
chrislspjuso use itunes only, best choice anything else is full of trouble17:20
BluesKajchrislsp, aplay -l , pastebin the output pls17:21
jusochrislsp, yeah whatever linux needs to do to get in the front line along with windows/max in regards to software support needs to happen already!17:21
jusowindows/mac*17:21
XiaolinDraconisits there already17:21
jusoXiaolinDraconis, thats gotta be a joke.17:22
XiaolinDraconislinux isnt as far behind as everybody seems to think17:22
AFDis it possible to resume after an scp transfer stalls=17:22
edbianjuso, actually, linux has more support for more hardware than any other OS17:22
jusoedbian, i specifically said software support.17:23
XiaolinDraconishe said software17:23
XiaolinDraconisi think17:23
XiaolinDraconisyep17:23
edbianjuso, I thought you meant software support of hardware.17:23
edbianjuso, what do you mean exactly by software support?17:23
zer0her0apps, apps, apps!17:23
zer0her0(is my guess)17:23
edbianjuso, you wanna be able to run ms word?17:23
chrislspBluesKaj http://pastebin.com/iENJN92R17:24
zer0her0edbian, it would be nice to have official apps from major vendors yes17:24
XiaolinDraconishere's the diff juso with linux u have to open your eyes and read, windows you can get your hand held17:24
MahaVishnujuso: then you can pay for them. ill take my free open source stuff every day.17:24
MahaVishnu+ my programs have less bugs / updated more often17:24
edbianzer0her0, what's the difference between an official app and an open source app?17:24
XiaolinDraconisopen source you can fix urself17:25
zer0her0edbian, tech support, non-techy management more likely to sign off on it.17:25
Guest76315hi ho17:25
Guest76315"_17:25
jusoitunes and netflix17:25
Guest76315:)17:25
jusoDo I need to name 5 more?17:25
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edbianzer0her0, ha, tech support is for the weak :P17:25
MahaVishnujuso: lol there are itunes replacements on linux that are better. yeah no music store if you like buying music from apple.17:26
zer0her0and THIS is why Linux will never gain ground17:26
edbianjuso, I admit, netflix would be nice.   (really?  itunes?)17:26
RandomPackagecannot remove programs in 11.10, keep getting a programming error in aptdaemon....tried running 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' nothing changed... :/17:26
edbianahhh17:26
AFDis there a way to resume a stalled scp transfer?17:26
edbianwe're off-topic17:26
XiaolinDraconisjust a tad17:26
MahaVishnunetflix is working on a linux version.........17:26
MahaVishnunuff said17:26
zer0her0Adobe CS, Evernote are two biggies i need17:26
edbianMahaVishnu, not enough said, what are you talking about.  What distro?  How?17:26
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zer0her0XiaolinDraconis, do you fix your car yourself?17:26
XiaolinDraconistechnically it all works on linux... VMWARE17:27
XiaolinDraconisonly when its cheaper17:27
jusoMahaVishnu, no it is not17:27
jusotechincally its NOT working on linux if im installed another OS on top of it, lmao17:27
RandomPackage cannot remove programs in 11.10, keep getting a programming error in aptdaemon....tried running 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' nothing changed... :/17:28
zer0her0so anyone using ubuntu w/ any of the new ultra books?17:28
ukwizhow do I install a deb that I have downloaded?17:28
XiaolinDraconisclick on it?17:28
ActionParsnipRandomPackage: can you give the output of:   sudo dpkg --configure -a17:28
ribotin my syslog i have this line, does it mean cronjobs have run? Dec 30 18:24:01 localhost cron[111]: (root) RELOAD (crontabs/root)17:28
ActionParsnipukwiz: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb; sudo apt-get -f install17:29
edbianActionParsnip, why do you want him to fix broken packages?17:29
ukwizActionParsnip: Thx17:30
jusoMahaVishnu, iOS 5 does not work with any linux applications. you seem to keep being wrong with everything.17:30
ActionParsnipedbian: if the deb has dependancies, they wil be dealt with from the repos17:30
ActionParsnipRandomPackage: use a pastebin to host the text17:30
edbianActionParsnip, aaah17:31
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MahaVishnujuso: good for me I don't have a shiny new iphone or whatever. nor do I give a crap17:31
arrihoi all! i'm trying to understand the severity of grub2-efi corrupting macbooks' firmware (bricking it) as described here http://goo.gl/swfqe . is the a total no-go? i'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04 - without hybrid mbr. thanks.17:31
edbianjuso, I wish that apple would open IOS 5 to linux as well17:32
MahaVishnujuso: they use linux/unix code and then change it + sell it. how you like them APPLES17:32
BluesKaj!intelhda | chrislsp17:33
ubottuchrislsp: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto17:33
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jusoMahaVishnu, you are horribly wrong once again, please stop.17:33
edbianMahaVishnu, indeed, not true.  They used unix-like BSD code17:33
MahaVishnuI said unix17:33
edbianMahaVishnu, they didn't take unix code.  They took unix-like code (the bsd kernel) and they follow a unix like design17:34
pangolindoesn't really mater, its off topic17:34
edbianjuso, do you have a support question?17:34
opalepatrickis it possible to write lost files to a secondary internal hard drive whilst using photorec?17:34
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MahaVishnuedbian: what I said is still true. they took something freee and used it for their product17:34
DrPenguinopalepatrick:  yeah it is17:34
edbianMahaVishnu, we're off-topic17:34
DrPenguinthats whats your SUPPOSED to do17:34
opalepatrickDrPenguin, hmm well then the prob is I cant see the drive in the lsit17:35
jusoMahaVishnu, wtf are you talking about? seriously.17:35
DrPenguinopalepatrick: did ya mount it?17:35
edbianjuso, MahaVishnu please stop17:35
MahaVishnuim not talking about anything anymore17:35
RandomPackageActionParsnip idk how to do that....17:36
edbianMahaVishnu, thanks :)17:36
MahaVishnui did stop about 2 minutes ago17:36
ribotso i guess there is no way to use cron on ubuntu server, running the root user?17:36
jusoMahaVishnu, good cause you clearly don't have the slighest idea - "someone sells software written in a language thats free, omg dont buy" lmao thats literally ALL software17:36
jusoim done with this convo...17:36
MahaVishnufuck this shit I come here to help people and I always end up in some stupid argument. congrats. no point in coming here17:36
MahaVishnuand fuck ubuntu too anymore17:37
Tm_TMahaVishnu: language, please17:37
xangua!language | MahaVishnu17:37
ubottuMahaVishnu: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.17:37
DrPenguinwatch the language, and gtfo17:37
edbianjuso, do you have a support question?17:37
Tm_TDrPenguin: ...17:37
pangolinDrPenguin: mind the acronyms too17:37
xanguaDrPenguin: the same fot you ;)17:37
DarkXPhenomenonMahaVishnu: there never is any point to helping poeple!17:37
DrPenguinDarkXPhenomenon: oh cmon! there is!17:37
opalepatrickDrPenguin, good point - looks like something is using it... bizarre17:38
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ActionParsnip!paste | RandomPackage17:40
ubottuRandomPackage: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.17:40
Gorilla_No_Bakahello everyone... quick question Gnome 3 ...The gnome 3 theme selector can not read the contents of the /usr/share/themes  can anyone replicate this?17:41
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RandomPackagei can do a screenshot, the command line nothing changes, just sits at my home dir17:42
dr_willisRandomPackage:  what?17:43
tosh_helo17:43
Gorilla_No_Bakahello everyone... quick question Gnome 3 ...The gnome 3 theme selector can not read the contents of the /usr/share/themes  can anyone replicate this?17:43
arrihi,i'm installing grub2-efi booted 12.04 (no hybrid MBR) on a macbook, but read about possibly bricking the macbook.. (http://goo.gl/swfqe) - is this a no-go? (for now)?17:43
ActionParsnip!12.04 | arri17:43
ubottuarri: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) will be the sixteenth release of Ubuntu. Codename announcement here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/784 | Discussion and support in #ubuntu+117:43
DrPenguinarri: that cant brick the macbook17:44
RandomPackagei'm getting this in the details of the error17:44
RandomPackageTraceback (most recent call last):17:44
RandomPackage  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/aptdaemon/worker.py", line 968, in simulate17:44
RandomPackage    trans.unauthenticated = self._simulate_helper(trans)17:44
RandomPackage  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/aptdaemon/worker.py", line 1092, in _simulate_helper17:44
RandomPackage    return depends, self._cache.required_download, \17:44
FloodBot1RandomPackage: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:44
DrPenguinworst comes to worst you just ned to reinstall OS X17:44
edbianRandom832, There is an error in the python source code17:44
arriDrPengiun: sure? i'm confused by what i read...17:45
Gorilla_No_Bakaguys...!????? Am i the only one to note the stupid theme selector does not even read the contents of the /usr/share/themes?17:45
DrPenguinarri: im 100% sure.. your not touching the macs firmware, just the hard drive17:45
ActionParsnipGorilla_No_Baka: not used it17:46
Gorilla_No_Bakai got the prove right in front of my eyes.. go /usr/share/themes pick up one of the "approved themes" and change it's name.. automatically it' won't be read/displayed17:46
Gorilla_No_BakaActionParsnip:  i am talking about the default theme chancer the one that comes shipped with ubunut17:47
Gorilla_No_Bakasomebody is taking the mikey..17:48
ActionParsnipGorilla_No_Baka: yes, i've never had to use it17:48
glebihanGorilla_No_Baka, depending on what you do when you say you change the theme's name, it's normal that it would make it disappear17:48
arriDrPenguin: that's what i'd think.. until i read these posts of ppl having mobo's replaced..17:48
arri(looking for links)17:48
Gorilla_No_Bakathe folder's name.. the very folder where the theme resides17:49
DrPenguinarri: that makes no sense17:49
Gorilla_No_Baka not touching notiing from the theme17:49
glebihanGorilla_No_Baka, well then it's normal, that's not enough to change a theme's name17:49
Gorilla_No_Baka it is enough to change it and it can not be read anymore..  try it.. log as root and try to see17:49
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glebihanGorilla_No_Baka, no it is *not* enough17:50
glebihanGorilla_No_Baka, by doing that you're introducing inconsistencies which prevent the theme from being listed/loaded17:51
DrPenguinarri: those people arent the smartest ones, you wouldnt need a mobo replacement for this.. your not touching the mobo17:51
Chees_BHWHI ALL. i got a shell script and its working fine when i run it. but when i close putty it stops running. how do i make it run all the time ?17:51
Gorilla_No_Bakalol17:51
arriDrPenguin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting - end of first section17:51
Gorilla_No_Bakaare you serious?17:51
arri...This feature is not recommended on Mac models because it can corrupt the firmware. You will need to reflash the firmware to repair it....17:51
glebihanGorilla_No_Baka, yes I am17:51
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Chees_BHWHI ALL. i got a shell script and its working fine when i run it. but when i close putty it stops running. how do i make it run all the time ?17:51
ActionParsnipChees_BHW: you can use screen17:52
no_gravityHello! I try to run my firefox traffic via an ssh proxy. So i run "ssh -D 5000 <my_server>" and set the firefox proxy setting to use 127.0.0.1 port 5000. But I only get empty pages when i put an url into firefox. Any ideas?17:52
Chees_BHWActionParsnip what is this ?17:52
arriDrPenguin: and this bugreport: http://goo.gl/swfqe17:52
DrPenguinarri: what firmware is this talking about..?17:52
DrPenguinunless this is talking about rEFit17:52
ActionParsnipChees_BHW: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/114614317:53
arriDrPenguin: and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10743955&posted=1#post1074395517:53
DrPenguinarri: stopppp throwing links at me17:53
arriok .. ok;)17:53
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arriwhat firmware.. well, i'm not sure - otherwise i'd probably not be asking.17:54
DrPenguinarri: I dont understand how firmware is being corrupted17:54
DrPenguinunless Ubuntu is touching the mobo17:54
Gorilla_No_Bakaglebihan:  listen man.. channging the folder's name... NOT TOUCHING the content of the theme inside,,.. The lovely theme selector  can not find the thheme.. Ok.. I got Elegant-Arch-gtk3 and Ambiance..  i just swaped the names of the folders without touching the theme.. For some reason the stupid theme choser does not read it anymore.. (Not that  was reading it before either..) to me .. it looks just like the same storr17:55
Chees_BHWActionParsnip thanks!17:55
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arrii guess the firmware as Apple loads it on the macbook, such as MacBook Pro EFI Firmware Update 1.717:55
arrihttp://support.apple.com/downloads/MacBook_Pro_EFI_Firmware_Update_1_7_17:56
arri(sorry for the link;)17:56
glebihanGorilla_No_Baka, well it's the same as the one I just mentioned... Changing a theme's name takes more than just renaming the folder17:56
ActionParsnipGorilla_No_Baka: what is the output of:  cat /etc/lsb-release    please17:56
DrPenguinarri: theo nly other thing I can think of is that Apple installs the firmware on the hdd.. but that makes no sense17:56
ActionParsnipGorilla_No_Baka: I'll have a dig see what I can find#17:56
DrPenguinarri: those links are not clear, and i would argue the point that firmware i sbeing corrupted17:56
arriDrPenguin: this is not loaded on the hd, this is responsible for initial hardware initialization, basic device drivers etc..17:57
DrPenguinarri: I know that17:57
arrithat's what makes it scary.. it's not the EFI bootoader, rather the EFI itsself17:58
Gorilla_No_BakaI am making a script for a friend of mine (he's got a macbook pro 8,1) well this script downloads .... glebihan  my firend you are not reading whaat i am actually telling you  I DO NOT intend to change theme;s name.. that was an experiment to prove they messed arround with the theme selector.. bsically that would only read their themes.. it does not matter you bring in a new gtk theme.. nope.. you're screwed .. if you 17:59
DrPenguinarri: honestl,y I think its just some people who have no idea what they are doing breaking their systems17:59
Gorilla_No_Baka:)17:59
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DeltatashI wonder if anyone can help me with a problem I have. I am trying to burn some files to disc using Brasero and when I click burn it instantly ejects my disc and says "Error while burning, Some files have invalid names" I then have an option to save the log. I save the log and read it it mentiones invalid names but does not exactly say what are the invalid names it does nolt make sense to me :s17:59
Gorilla_No_Bakagsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface gtk-theme 'Elegant-Arch-gtk3'17:59
Gorilla_No_Baka# Icon-Theme:17:59
Gorilla_No_Bakagsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface icon-theme 'HumanME-green'17:59
Gorilla_No_Baka#Window decorator:17:59
Gorilla_No_Bakagconftool-2 --set --type string /apps/metacity/general/theme 'Elegant-Arch-gtk3'17:59
FloodBot1Gorilla_No_Baka: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:59
Deltatashanyone with a little more experience able to help me please17:59
ActionParsnipGorilla_No_Baka: can you give the output of:  cat /etc/lsb-release   please17:59
DrPenguinDeltatash: do any of the file names contain weird characters or are super duper long?18:00
arriDrPenguin: i've been researching all day.. but not so sure about that.. but then, if you are..18:00
Gorilla_No_Bakaso.. what i am trying to say.. is my firend would love to actually be able to select his gtk3 themes as normal.. he is not happy with me  creating script files for him just to be able to change a theme18:00
Gorilla_No_BakaActionParsnip:  stand by 1 se please18:00
glebihanGorilla_No_Baka, I read you very well, I was just telling you that your tests were not relevant18:00
DeltatashI dunno I will check now DrPenguin18:00
ActionParsnipGorilla_No_Baka: no worries18:00
Decepticonhi!18:01
Decepticonpeople I need to help me18:01
ActionParsnipDecepticon: ask away18:01
DecepticonI want to install in wine an unity virtual but in wine18:01
Gorilla_No_BakaActionParsnip:18:01
arriDrPenguin: one report mentions the 'bricked' harddrive worked fine after the mobo-replacment.. (firmware repair?)18:01
Gorilla_No_Bakaroot@gorilla-MacBookPro:~# cat /etc/lsb-release18:01
Gorilla_No_BakaDISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu18:01
Gorilla_No_BakaDISTRIB_RELEASE=11.1018:01
Gorilla_No_BakaDISTRIB_CODENAME=oneiric18:01
Gorilla_No_BakaDISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 11.10"18:01
FloodBot1Gorilla_No_Baka: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:01
Resistancewait what?18:01
oem_Decepticon: explain more your problem18:01
Resistance!pastebin | Gorilla_No_Baka18:01
ubottuGorilla_No_Baka: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.18:01
Deltatashtheres one or 2 longish filenames DrPenguin but its weird becuase these files were extracted from an .ISO i am trying to burn them to disc after extracting but its a no go I cant even re add them to another .ISO i get same error18:01
Decepticonbecause I need to rosetta stone install lenguage but the software to me ask for the cd-rom18:01
ActionParsnipDecepticon: wine is available in the repos18:02
DrPenguinarri: if the board was replaced, then it would have whatever firmware is on it (unless it was reflashed)18:02
DrPenguinDeltatash: how long is long?18:02
arriDrPenguin: supposedly, when bricked it doesn't even pass 'POST' (or whatever?)18:02
DecepticonActionParsnip:  but I need to unity virtual in wine of cd-rom o dvd-rom18:02
Decepticonbecause i have a notebook18:02
ResistanceDecepticon:  just install wine from the repos, you don't need a "virtual unity", just install wine, and it should work (you will also need the Rosetta Stone CDs/DVDs anyways)18:02
DecepticonI dont have cd.-rom18:02
DrPenguinarri: well if the firmware cant do its job for stage1 booting, then yeah18:02
ResistanceDecepticon:  then your question is "How do I mount DVD/CD images so I can install software from them"?18:03
DecepticonResistance: but is for the lenaguege18:03
Decepticonlenguage18:03
ResistanceDecepticon:  the alternative is you go out, and buy a $20 USB CD/DVD reader18:03
Deltatashits 31 characters long DrPenguin and like 3 spaces18:03
DecepticonResistance: buuuuuuuuu! no because is for me18:03
ResistanceDecepticon:  for the record, I know what Rosetta Stone is, and I have it installed in both Windows and Linux on this machine18:03
Decepticondem18:03
ResistanceDecepticon:  i take it english isnt your first language?18:03
arriDrPenguin: so looking for advice, maybe leave this for now - as i'm not exactly up to par with firmware flashing etc.. ?18:04
* Resistance sees some typing issues that make that seem apparent...18:04
Decepticonenglish and german18:04
Decepticonin wine the rosetta stone run fine18:04
ResistanceDecepticon:  would it be easier to talk in german to get help?  there's a german support channel:18:04
Resistance!de | Decepticon18:04
ubottuDecepticon: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!18:04
Decepticonvery fine but the problem is when the software tell me for the cdrom with lenguage18:04
ResistanceDecepticon:  we're finding it difficult to understand what you're needing18:04
ResistanceDecepticon:  you'd have to install the Linux language pack for the Language18:05
Deltatashany idea DrPenguin?18:05
Resistanceand/or the Wine language packs18:05
arriDrPenguin: things is, if this is a REAL problem, i'd expected to see some huge red warning somewhere..18:05
ActionParsnipDecepticon: once you install the app in wine, it will run under unity just fine..18:05
ResistanceActionParsnip:  he's having issues with the program detecting the languages18:05
ActionParsnipi see18:06
ResistanceActionParsnip:  in windows, it'll auto-install the required language pack(s) from Windows18:06
DrPenguinarri: then dont use 11.04+? use 10.0418:06
ResistanceActionParsnip:  in Linux, you have to hack around that (PITA to do, which is why I also keep Windows VMs handy)18:06
arriDrPenguin: yeah, well - i was too adventerous perhaps. i guess i'll leave this for now. thanks!18:07
ActionParsnipResistance: not used it tbh, sounds annoying18:07
ResistanceActionParsnip:  its profoundly annoying (although its resulted in my MSDN license getting extremely high usage for the OS ISOs from Windows :P)18:08
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DecepticonI canot add cdrom in wine18:13
Decepticonhelp me please18:13
Decepticonplease! I need to add cd-rom in wine18:13
ActionParsnipDecepticon: playonlinux makes life a little easier18:14
Decepticonplay in lunx=??18:14
DecepticonActionParsnip:  but is possible add cd-rom unity virtual in wine =??18:15
ActionParsniptrue18:16
ActionParsnip!info playonlinux18:16
ubottuplayonlinux (source: playonlinux): front-end for Wine. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.8.8-1 (oneiric), package size 708 kB, installed size 2464 kB18:16
Deltatashcan anyone help me I am trying to burn some files to disc using Brasero in Ubuntu 10.4 LTS and it instantly fails when i click burn and says  Some files have invalid names" I then have an option to save the log. I save the log and read it it mentiones invalid names but does not exactly say what are the invalid names it does nolt make sense to me :s here is my Brasero burn log that failed http://pastebin.com/06hJfmTV18:17
Deltatashany help would be apreciated guys18:18
ActionParsnipDeltatash: tried another burning app?18:18
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Deltatashno18:18
Deltatashwhat app would you reccomend ActionParsnip ?18:19
Decepticonsomebody that do install rosetta stone in ubuntu18:19
Decepticonpleaseee18:19
ActionParsnipDeltatash: xfburn is pretty sweet imho18:19
Deltatashok I will try that, thanks18:19
beachbuddahhello room18:20
Decepticonbeachbuddah: hey! hi18:21
beachbuddahcan anyone tell me why the 32 bit version of 11.10 is 'recommended' over the 64 bit?18:21
ActionParsnipbeachbuddah: it will work on more CPUs18:21
ActionParsnipbeachbuddah: as 32bit OS will run on 64bit CPU18:21
beachbuddahbut if I have a 64 bit chip...?18:22
xanguabeachbuddah: use what you want then18:22
beachbuddahfair enuf18:22
ActionParsnipbeachbuddah: then you can use 64bit if you want18:22
ActionParsnipbeachbuddah: remember the target audience of ubuntu ;)18:22
Decepticonsomebody that do of rosetta stone in ubuntu =??18:22
beachbuddahI really appreciate the fact that all you different folks come in here and make yourselves available to help people like me18:23
Deltatashok ActionParsnip I have xfburn installed now gonna try and burn with it :D18:23
beachbuddahthanks alot]18:23
ActionParsnipbeachbuddah: always welcome :D18:23
ActionParsnipbeachbuddah: thanks for the gratitude too :D:D18:23
HumbedoohPactionArsenip!18:23
OerHeksnext LTS 12.04 says 64 bit is recommended :-)18:23
beachbuddahyou're certainly welcome - have a great New Year's all - I'm off to d/l land18:24
ActionParsnipOerHeks: its not bad at all !wfm ;)18:24
th^2hello all. anyone solved this problem? it appears when im tryig to launch net stream. Blocked: call to setenv("_PX_CONFIG_ORDER", "", 1)18:24
th^2libva: libva version 0.32.018:24
th^2Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0".18:24
th^2libva: va_getDriverName() returns 018:24
th^2Segmentation fault18:24
ActionParsnipth^2: net steam using what app?18:25
th^2ActionParsnip, aaah. VLC18:25
ActionParsnipth^2: tried a different app?18:25
th^2ActionParsnip, not really18:25
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Gizmohi all18:27
th^2okay it works fine with the mplayer18:27
th^2ActionParsnip18:27
thechrisDoes anyone have an idea how to get an ASUS USB-N53 wifi adaptor to scan for AP's?18:28
th^2thechris, iwlist?18:28
thechristh^2: I've tried iwlist wlan0 scanning, but "no results found"18:28
ActionParsnipth^2: ok we have isolated the issue to just vlc :)18:28
thechristhere are dozens of AP's in the area18:29
th^2ActionParsnip, yes18:29
th^2thechris, is it working otherways?18:29
ActionParsnipth^2: if you use vlc as a new user,is it the same?18:29
thechristh^2: unknown.  I can't find my AP18:29
wernhamhoggHi everyone.. got an error message when starting up my ubuntu-server: kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) .... been googling some and it seems most ppl get this after they've done some kind of update... However my server just turned itself off and now i get this when im starting it. any ideas on whats wrong?18:29
Deltatashhey ActionParsnip xfburn worked for me :D thanks for that :D dunno what it was that Brasero didnt like but atleast xfburn works :D18:29
th^2ActionParsnip, hmm let me try18:29
iinamehello18:31
iinamei have a problem with the display ( menu bar is missing in 12.04, unity --reset does not help18:31
ActionParsnipiiname: ask in #ubuntu+118:31
iinameActionParsnip thanks18:32
th^2ActionParsnip, well... Blocked: call to unsetenv("DBUS_ACTIVATION_BUS_TYPE")18:32
th^2[0xecaa10] inhibit interface error: Failed to connect to the D-Bus session daemon: //bin/dbus-launch terminated abnormally with the following error: No protocol specified18:32
ActionParsnipiiname: you are using pre-release so you will get issues18:32
th^2Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed.18:32
xanguaiiname: or use 11.1018:32
th^2but this is not the same error18:32
mellpatrits possible to use sudo with a domain user?18:32
ActionParsnipth^2: are you on the same PC or is this via SSH?18:32
th^2and its not priority because theres only one account used to watch any videos18:32
mellpatrlike as runas command at windows?18:33
th^2ActionParsnip, same PC. just added a new user. might be because of privilaged though18:33
ActionParsnipth^2: try vlc with sudo, just to test18:33
Wanguardis there any way to tether a feature phone(Java)?18:33
th^2ActionParsnip, to run internet app with root access?18:33
ActionParsnipth^2: sure, its only to test, see if its priveledges causing the issue18:34
th^2ActionParsnip, VLC is not supposed to be run as root. Sorry.18:35
ActionParsnipth^2: is that the message?18:35
th^2ActionParsnip, yes18:35
edbianha18:35
ActionParsnipi see18:36
th^2okay used vlc-wrapper18:36
th^2libva: libva version 0.32.018:36
th^2Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0".18:36
th^2libva: va_getDriverName() returns 018:36
iinameActionParsnip  I logged into #ubuntu+1, see the list of users, but no activity. Is there a different authentication requirement for that room?18:36
ActionParsnipiiname: no its just like here but for precise (12.04) until release day18:36
edbianActionParsnip, what is the codename for 12.04 ?18:37
edbianiiname, It's just quieter18:37
xanguaiiname: why do you want to use pangolin on first place¿18:37
th^2ActionParsnip, any ideas?18:38
iinamexangua I am trying 12.04 exploratively18:39
ActionParsnipth^2: not sure, you could try the vlc ppa to get vlc 1.218:39
iinameebdian thanks18:39
LivTylerhow do I connect to a VPN connection created with NetworkManager?18:39
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iinameebdian the code name for 12.04 is precise pangolin18:40
ActionParsnipLivTyler: once the connection is made, just connect as you would and routing will happen for you18:40
edbianiiname, thanks18:40
bigtom21485anyone know how to get the latest version of adobe reader to work on a 64-bit computer?18:40
bigtom21485how do i install with my deb file i downloaded...18:40
LivTylerActionParsnip: it's created but there's no button "Connect"18:40
edbianbigtom21485, sudo dpkg -i package.deb18:40
edbianbigtom21485, and then sudo apt-get -f install18:41
th^2noob: howto remove a user?18:41
lytithwynth^2: sudo userdel <username>18:42
compitzhi guys, can someone help me to chroot update-grub on a mounted but not running filesystem?18:42
edbiancompitz, chroot /path/to/mounted/root/    then run sudo update-grub18:42
th^2lytithwyn, aah thats it. danke18:42
lytithwynSure.18:42
edbiancompitz, (you might want grub-install)18:42
compitzedbian why install?18:43
edbiancompitz, well, is grub installed?18:43
edbiancompitz, on this hdd ?18:43
LivTylerActionParsnip: it's created but there's no button "Connect"18:43
bigtom21485how do i force the depackaging? my deb is 32 bit, my system is 64 bit18:43
edbianbigtom21485, You have to get a 64 bit .deb18:44
LivTylerActionParsnip: I'm trying to set up a PPTP connection18:44
compitzedbian do you remeber how, was it you?, who told me to use the open source invidia driver on 10.4? well anyway, yes, my whole system is installed, i just cant run it cause of the black screen18:44
edbiancompitz, that has likely nothing to do with grub :)18:45
edbiancompitz, when you boot, press shift early to get the grub menu18:45
compitzi know, edbian, hold on a sec18:45
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edbiancompitz, if a menu comes up (with ubuntu) grub is fine18:45
edbiancompitz, I can fix the black screen probably too18:45
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compitzedbian, i tried pressing vereything, wait i tell you what i did18:46
edbiancompitz, ok18:46
edbiancompitz, this is a big issue.  Follow this wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/BlankScreen18:46
edbiancompitz, come back here if you get stuck with something18:47
compitzedbian, i googled it and the problem is probably this: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/18:47
LivTylercan someone help with a PPTP connection? I've created a VPN connection via Network Manager but how DO I connect?18:48
edbiancompitz, yes, this is covered in the guide I gave18:48
compitzedbian, no what i did was editing the grub to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset" GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" like it said, but at the bottom of the page it says i had to run update-grub18:48
edbiancompitz, that's not true.  If you add nomodeset in grub then it is only temporary.  Running update-grub is to permenantly add nomodeset.  You only need to do this if nomodeset worked18:49
lytithwynThanks for the wiki link, compitz.  I get a blank screen every once in a while and I just thought my laptop was being stupid.  I'll have to try some of that stuff!18:49
bigtom21485edbian: why is my browser telling me i don't have the most updated version?18:49
edbianlytithwyn, the wiki I posted18:49
guest_I am wondering if the guys at The Linux documentation project have an advanced perl guide equivalent to their advanced bash guide abs? If so a link to it would be great I really want to learn the hardest perl stuff know the basics...18:50
edbianbigtom21485, the most updated version of what?18:50
lytithwynAh, sorry.  Thanks edbian.18:50
edbianlytithwyn, that's fine18:50
bigtom21485edbian: why would www.va.gov not like google chrome on ubuntu x64?18:50
edbianbigtom21485, lemme test of 32 bit18:50
compitzlytithwyn, well for general ubuntuuser, i might tell you never to change a running system...18:50
bigtom21485edbian: go here (https://www.1010ez.med.va.gov/sec/vha/1010ez/), then click "apply" and tell me if your pdf opens properly18:51
edbianbigtom21485, testing...18:51
LivTylercan someone help with a PPTP connection? I've created a VPN connection via Network Manager but how DO I connect?18:51
lytithwynCompitz: No big.  If I hose it up, I can reload.  It's not a mission critical pc anyway.18:51
compitzedbian, do you think its enough that i did?18:51
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oCeanguest_: maybe try the #perl channel18:52
edbiancompitz, what?18:52
edbianbigtom21485, works fine for me on 32bit firefox18:52
bigtom21485edbian: this the message i get.  i get a pdf that just says this: "To view the full contents of this document, you need a later version of the PDF viewer. You can upgrade18:52
bigtom21485to the latest version of Adobe Reader from www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html18:52
bigtom21485For further support, go to www.adobe.com/support/products/acrreader.html"18:52
FloodBot1bigtom21485: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:52
edbianbigtom21485, oh, I saw that too :P18:53
bigtom21485edbian: howd you get around that?18:53
ActionParsnip!vpn | LivTyler18:53
ubottuLivTyler: For more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN18:53
edbianbigtom21485, I didn't18:53
compitzedbian editing diting the grub to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset" GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" from diting the grub to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splasht" GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""18:53
edbianbigtom21485, I'm not sure how to fix it either :(18:53
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qipiqipitung18:54
compitzedbian editing diting the grub to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset" GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" from GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splasht" GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""18:54
bigtom21485edbian: i have a 32 bit ubuntu laptop.  no worries B-)18:54
edbiancompitz, That is ripe with trpos.  But, did the black screen go away after you did that?18:54
compitztrpos?18:54
compitzedbian trpos?18:54
edbiantypos*18:54
ActionParsnipahahha18:54
edbianquiet you!18:54
compitzedbian, i have typos in my grub?18:55
edbiancompitz, ugh, follow the wiki link I gave you.18:55
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compitzedbian, i dont really undertstand what it says for im aforeigner to English and dont know what for example plymouth is18:56
slipp3dso what is the difference between .... (version current)   and  (port-release updates)( version current-updates)   when I am looking at the additional drivers window?18:56
LivTylerActionParsnip: "This features is available under the networks connections tab.". Ok, I've created that but HOW do I connect?18:56
hiltonmagkCan anyone help me with a kernel panic issue?18:57
compitzedbian, your link says nothing about "nomodeset"18:57
ActionParsnipLivTyler: according to http://geekyprojects.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-vpn-connection/   you just need to reboot18:58
mebigfatguy_hiltonmagk, why speculate? just ask the question18:59
hiltonmagkfair enough18:59
thomashow to connect wireless router18:59
hiltonmagkI'm getting a kernel panic: not syncing fatal machine check18:59
LaFlakitaBnAsika#ubuntu-es19:00
hiltonmagksometimes it boots fine19:00
ActionParsniphiltonmagk: I'd test RAM if it's intermittent19:00
mensvagaIf I have multiple sound cards and I'm not running gnome, what do I use to choose the sound device?19:00
hiltonmagkI did take this hardrive from another computer and put it into a new one19:00
benbloomI need help getting a usb 2.0 pci card working. anyone got the time/interest?19:00
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ActionParsnipthomas: you get a wireless adapter, install it and configure it and connect to the router19:01
LivTylerActionParsnip: ok, I've tried "nmcli con up id myvpnconnection" and it fails with "Unknown reason error"19:01
hiltonmagkwould that cause a problem?19:02
ActionParsnipmensvaga: its set in sound settings19:02
ActionParsniphiltonmagk: check the drive is connected properly, I'd also test ram19:02
hiltonmagkI also get a bunch of MCE Hardware errors upon boot every time19:03
mensvagaActionParsnip: alsamixergui19:04
hiltonmagkI get an error "too small lower memory"19:05
hiltonmagkand the drive is connected19:07
com642When trying to launch the ubuntu installation program in 11.10 x86_64, I get the error "(gksudo:4884): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap"," four times19:07
roberto!list19:08
hiltonmagkI couldn't get ubuntu install on this machine so I took it's hardrive to another and installed it there and then brought it back to the orginal machine.  That's when these errors started19:08
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robertociao19:08
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hiltonmagkI couldn't get ubuntu install on this machine so I took it's hardrive to another and installed it there and then brought it back to the orginal machine.  That's when these errors started19:09
ashwinHow to get run dialog in ubuntu 11.10 ?19:12
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hiltonmagkhow do you install ubuntu when you need propriorty video drivers?19:13
ActionParsnipcom642: sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-pixbuf     will get rid of those warnings19:13
ActionParsnipashwin: Alt+f219:13
ActionParsniphiltonmagk: install the OS, then install the driver19:13
hiltonmagkOS won't install19:14
ActionParsniphiltonmagk: do you get a black screen when you install?19:14
ashwinActionParsnip, that is not as simple and pretty as it used to be.19:14
ActionParsnipashwin: you can install gnome-run and assign Alt+f2 in ccsm to run it19:15
hiltonmagkActionParsnip: It starts to install the base system and when it gets about 90% done it goes to a black screen and then reboots19:15
com642ActionParsnip, E: Unable to locate package19:15
ActionParsniphiltonmagk: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?19:15
mccLooking in apt-cache search I find a package named libgl1-mesa-dev and a package named libglw1-mesa-dev. The description lines in apt-cache search are the same. What is the difference between the two?19:15
ashwinActionParsnip, thanks. That is what i was looking for.19:16
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hiltonmagkno but I tried 3 different versions of Ubuntu and they all did the same thing19:16
hiltonmagkused the same disk to install on another computer19:16
ActionParsnipashwin: gmrun   sorry19:17
ActionParsniphiltonmagk: if you don't MD5 test you do not know if the image is complete or consistent19:17
ashwinoh19:17
ActionParsnipashwin: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/omg-5-five-ways-to-add-altf2-fun-to-unity/19:17
bodybuildciaoo19:17
bodybuild!list19:17
ubottuThis is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».19:17
ashwinThanks ActionParsnip19:18
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hiltonmagkActionParship:  I understand that but it did work on another machine so it should be good shouldn't it?  And what's the liklihood that it would be wrong 3 times on 3 different versions19:18
helloaahi, a program i installed made a default change that i do not like. i downloaded the source and found that i can make this change by editing the main.cpp file, however i do not want to install it manually as i prefer using ppa and apt-get. is there a way to find a file similar to this main.cpp?19:19
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sstacom642: com642 sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-pixbuf19:19
sstagrr, tab complete...19:19
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vouthHi. This is probably kind of a stupid question but how can I drop back to the bash prompt right after beginning a command (not waiting for it to complete)?19:20
ActionParsniphiltonmagk: what video chip do you use?19:21
ichbinderhas anybody experience with onlinetvrecorder in ubuntu?19:21
Stormridervouth...are you wanting to kill the command and get the prompt back?19:21
MultbrelchHello world?19:22
jribWhen I attempt to use my system after the screen has been blanked (e.g. by running « xset s activate ») by pressing spacebar for example, the screen does not unblank.  But if I hold the "increase brightness" key I can bring the screen up again to maximum brightness.  This used to work fine, pre-oneiric.  I am on a macbook 4,1.  How can I allow my screen to unblank properly by pressing any button or using19:22
jribthe touchpad?19:22
jribMultbrelch: hello19:22
VCooliovouth: ctrl+c to abort, ctrl+z to pause19:22
VCooliovouth: or run the command with an ampersand, like: command &19:23
oCeanvouth: you can use  command &  and give enter to get your prompt back (the command will run in the background) If you have started a command in the foreground, you can <ctrl><z> to send a SIGSTOP to the process, this will result in a jobnumber with "stopped" You can continue that jobnumber using  fg %<jobid>19:23
X0Rc0rehello can someone tell me what this command does? ln -s / root19:23
vouthStormrider: No, just get the command running. I'm trying to write a script to execute a number of startup items on login, and only the first one is being executed.19:23
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ActionParsnipX0Rc0re: what is 'root'?19:23
vouthVCoolio, oCean: I think the command & is what I was talking about. Thanks.19:24
pumafyrehey all19:24
ActionParsnipX0Rc0re: if your pwd is $HOME then you will make a link to '/' called 'root'19:24
vouthIs anyone else seeing enormous amounts of joins/quits?19:24
jribvouth: pastebin your script19:24
ActionParsnipvouth: I have them on ignore19:24
X0Rc0reis there any command to undo  ln -s / root19:25
X0Rc0re?19:25
pumafyrethe light on my hard drive won't stop flashing, it sounds like it's reading/writing but it's going on and on and on.  Is there a way to check and see what's happening with it?19:25
StormriderYes tons of joins and quits and splits.  I need to remember how to ignore them.  heh19:25
jribpumafyre: iotop19:25
oCeanvouth: it's a netsplit, don't worry19:25
pumafyrehey slackerthank you jrib19:25
ActionParsnipX0Rc0re: delete the link file, do NOT use -rf19:25
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vouthjrib: http://pastebin.com/emNgn5tx19:25
pippociao19:25
X0Rc0reActionParsnip: what if i put it in my home dir?19:25
vouthActionParsnip, oCean: weird.19:25
ActionParsnipX0Rc0re: then its just a file, delete it19:25
vouthNever heard of that before19:26
ActionParsnipvouth: most clients can be told to ignore join/part stuff19:26
X0Rc0rewhere would the file be located?19:26
X0Rc0rein file manager?19:26
ActionParsnipX0Rc0re: wherever you ran the command19:26
RaldafI`ve a problem with a vodafone dongle on my ubuntu 10.10., the system doenst recognize the Controlport. Anyone can help me? :)19:26
oCean!netsplit19:26
X0Rc0rewhat would it be called?19:26
ActionParsnipX0Rc0re: the file you made is called 'root'19:26
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ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit19:26
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blarggHow do I get firefox-globalmenu for Firefox 9 running on 10.04 Lucid? I'm using ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable. I found a page that seems to list a newer version of firefox-globalmenu, but it's from the Firefox Aurora ppa, which I believe would install Firefox 10 or 11 if I added it to sources.19:27
ActionParsnip!away > Jguy\away19:27
ubottuJguy\away, please see my private message19:27
hiltonmagkActionParship: I think it's an ATI19:27
AFDI´m transferring my home folder to a new machine and can´t find the empathy files (settings and chat logs) anyone know where they are?19:27
X0Rc0reActionParsnip: it doesnt show the file root19:27
ActionParsniphiltonmagk: try the boot option: nomodeset19:27
X0Rc0rein the directory19:27
mensvagaIf I have a USB audio card, how do I configure pulseaudio to use it?19:27
mensvagaerr, USB sound card19:27
Guest20427vouth: you should start those jobs in the background (append & to the line)19:27
ActionParsnipX0Rc0re: then you didn't run it there19:27
ActionParsnipexit19:28
vouthGuest20427: Thanks!19:28
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pumafyrefound it19:29
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ashwinHi19:29
Crasherhellow19:29
gridbagI am so gay.19:29
com642Applications are failing to launch in 11.10 x86_64 liveusb.19:29
Chr|sgetting an error stating file '/home/user/.gvfs': Transport endpoint is not connected. Any ideas on why this is happening? happens each time I click on my home folder19:29
Crasherdid anyone tryed to install the backtrack menu in ubuntu?19:30
WeemsI cannot install python-profiler: The following packages have unmet dependencies:19:30
Weems python2.7 : Conflicts: python-profiler (<= 2.7.1-2)19:30
Seven_Six_TwoI just installed 11.10 x64 on an hp g60 laptop with a new kingston 64gb ssd. The laptop had a 250gb hd with 11.10 with no problems. I did a net install from usb key, install went fine (did desktop packages) and installed boot loader to mbr. Now after post I just get a blinking cursor. Any ideas what might have gone wrong?19:31
gridbagI HATE when I drag a window and my mouse goes up top, and the thing highlights the entire monitor as if I want to expand the app to ALL. Who decides this is smart?19:31
gridbagUbuntu is the worst UI ever.19:32
pippo /EXEC rm -vf /tmp/budus_XDCC__home_pippo_2052.quer19:32
jribgridbag: ubuntu is not a UI :)19:32
com642gridbag, hold alt key while dragging on the main part of the window.19:32
Seven_Six_Twogridbag, I like it. I also like the half-screen on right and left19:32
gridbag"oh, but wait. this will be awesome on tablets!"19:32
blargggridbag, are you being forced to use Ubuntu?19:32
Seven_Six_Twogridbag, then don't use unity19:32
com642gridbag, Win7 is the same way...19:32
gridbagfailure is bad. failure is not an excuse for excuses.19:33
nothingspecialgridbag: disable the grid plugin in ccsm19:33
hiltonmagkActionParship: I guess I was wrong it's a XFX HD-435X-ZNH2 Radeon19:33
com64211.10 x86_64 liveusb: when I select install ubuntu from the boot menu, I get a dialogue box stating that "The installer encountered an unrecoverable error. A desktop session will now be run so that you may investigate the problem or try installing again."19:34
hiltonmagkActionParship: Should I still try that install option?19:34
gridbag"grid plugin in ccsm" - nice.19:34
myk_robinsonneed some help with terminal. I need to run a command in a folder to search all subfolders and copy *.doc and so on to a designated folder outside of the parent. Help?19:34
blarggmyk_robinson, man find19:35
com642myk_robinson, cp -R *.doc19:35
com642myk_robinson, grep -R *.doc19:35
gridbagThe more I dive into Ubuntu/Linux, the more I appreciate Steve Jobs.19:35
Jguy\awayWhoops, sorry guys, I checked the box 'set away on all networks', my apologies. :)19:35
glebihanmyk_robinson, find ./ -name "*.doc" -exec mv {} /path/to/destination/folder \;19:35
jakob1How do i launch the installer from CLI on the live-cd?19:35
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pippociao19:36
X0Rc0rehow would i remove the htaccess folder with a command in unix?19:36
gridbagAnd another thing: Why does my Ubuntu desktop look 50% more retarded than it did 5 years ago?19:36
glebihangridbag, once again, no one is forcing you to use unity if you don't like it19:37
gridbagI'm all for open source, community, and free software, and all that. But really, wtf?19:37
mebigfatguy_X0Rc0re, rm -rf htaccess19:37
com642gridbag, use another distro then19:37
mebigfatguy_assuming it's in a place that you have write access to19:37
OerHeksgridbag, stop the ranting please19:37
mebigfatguy_otherwise you would need to prepend sudo19:37
X0Rc0rewill it mess up the website?19:37
glebihangridbag, also, this is support channel, so you can join #ubuntu-rant19:37
blargggridbag, this channel is for coming up with concrete solutions to immediate problems19:37
com642!offtopic gridbag19:37
jribgridbag: keep in mind this channel is where users help other users with ubuntu problems.  It's not really the right forum for complaining about a specific design choice19:38
mebigfatguy_X0Rc0re, likely19:38
lakeHow can I install a specific version of a library from apt? For instance I want to install libqt4-dev version 4.6.3.19:38
gridbagAnyone have questions? I'm here to help.19:38
jribWhen I attempt to use my system after the screen has been blanked (e.g. by running « xset s activate ») by pressing spacebar for example, the screen does not unblank.  But if I hold the "increase brightness" key I can bring the screen up again to maximum brightness.  This used to work fine, pre-oneiric.  I am on a macbook 4,1.  How can I allow my screen to unblank properly by pressing any button or using19:38
jribthe touchpad?19:38
jakob1gridbag: me :)19:38
jakob1How do i launch the installer from CLI on the live-cd?19:38
revsoldesthi every one19:38
pippociiao19:39
blarggI switched to Firefox 9 but can't find the latest firefox-globalmenu (running 10.04 Lucid).19:40
Seven_Six_Twojakob1, I'll let you know in a minute if no one answers. I'm booting livecd now19:40
jakob1Seven_Six_Two: Awesome thanks19:40
myk_robinsonglebihan: your command is getting me close, but I get a lot of errors, it shows the filenames then says no such file or directory. What am I doing wrong?19:42
helo1hey guys, I'm having an issue with my wireless. The problem is sporadic. Sometimes it won't happen for a few days, other it happens every few hours. I have found a reboot to be the only fix so far. It connects and works fine for an arbitrary amount of time and then randomly disconnects. It then refuses to connect again, asking for credentials over and over. This is the error from syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/788228/19:42
myk_robinsonglebihan: this is what I put:   mykrob@Ideapad-Z570:~/Desktop/Recovered$ find -name "*.doc" -exec mv{} /home/mykrob/Desktop/Moved \;19:42
gridbagLinux is for people who can' afford Apple.19:42
glebihanmyk_robinson, you're missing a space between mv and {}19:42
jakob1gridbag: Linux is for people who can understand it.19:43
myk_robinsonawesome, thank you very much!19:43
Seven_Six_Twogridbag, trolling is not a good hobby19:43
glebihanmyk_robinson, you're welcome19:43
jribgridbag: stay on the topic of ubuntu support.  Consider this your last and final warning.19:43
gridbagWho is in charge of the "New Printer" app? The thing wedges, and I'd like to fix that by making the network access non-blocking.19:45
onixx111Hello, anybody tried to setup persistance over NFS with ubuntu Live CD ?19:46
gridbag   ..  like no buttons work until the "New printer" app gets done with a half-minute network query.19:46
blargggridbag, do you need to add new printers often?19:46
gridbagblargg: Exactly.19:46
gridbagblargg: This is like the Sgt. Shultz OS.19:47
lakewhere can i find archived .deb packages. i am looking for libqt4-dev 4.6.3 that is available on 10.04, i think.19:47
Seven_Six_Twojakob1, ubiquity --desktop19:47
onixx111I am booting over PXE just fine at this point. I am trying to do persistance with an NFS mount instead of USB...19:47
onixx111any help would be appreciated19:47
jakob1Seven_Six_Two: Is that without GUI too? :)19:47
myk_robinsonglebihan: you just saved me HOURS of digging through 179 folders of data I recovered. That command allowed me to quickly sort the data into logical folders. Thanks again19:47
Seven_Six_Twojakob1, that I'm not sure of. check ubiquity's man page19:47
glebihanmyk_robinson, you're welcome :)19:48
jakob1alright, thanks alot man :D19:48
stakhanovHi there folks! Does anybody in here know how to disable and powerdown the ethernet interface via command line?19:48
spaceneedleWhat do they mean by vanilla kernel?19:48
Seven_Six_Twospaceneedle, not modified from official kernel19:49
stakhanov(It's just the opposite of chocolate kernel)19:49
ragarba /server irc.irc-hispano.org19:49
Resistancestakhanov:  sudo ifconfig <interface> down  ?19:49
spaceneedleIs the Android kernel a vanilla one?19:49
onixx111anybody tried the following: http://www.37rtm.host22.com/content/ubuntu-live-cd-persitence-using-nfs19:49
stakhanov@Resistance: Yeah but the lights on the hub still blink...19:50
Resistancestakhanov:  that's because you can't fully power off the net card19:50
Resistancestakhanov:  not without removing it from the system19:50
stakhanovI know in Mac OS X, you can disable it... In Ubuntu maybe?19:50
Resistancestakhanov:  that's what ifconfig down does :P19:50
onixx111stakhanov: many PCs even have the link up light when totally powered off19:51
GazimoffHi all19:51
stakhanovYes but as I said, in the Mac interface disabled is not shown on the hub/switch, whereas Ubuntu after ifconfig down is still there...19:51
onixx111stakhanov: maybe disabling wake on lan could help in your bios19:51
xsaidxhello19:51
stakhanovRight! I could check that! Thanx onixx111.19:51
gridbagWhat is the app to verify my USB Logitech microphone is working? I just spent 25 minutes on hold to ATT, then once again, the MIC doesn't work. It works often, but how do I verify that? Thanks.19:52
ashwinEmpathy does not seem to show the status as logged in from mobile (i mean sms not 3G) in yahoo messenger where a person is logged in from mobile. For me it shows as a regular user. Is there any work around or fix for this? I can see the correct status message in windows and yahoo messenger.19:52
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NimeshNeemahow to look up the man page of a command in a particular section ?19:54
mccnimeeshneema: you mean, man 2 open ?19:54
Seven_Six_TwoI installed from usb, and I think it's looking for the kernel on the (now unplugged) usb key. I've booted a live cd, but I don19:54
Seven_Six_Twodon't know what to switch19:54
mccok so i'm trying to compile a bunch of stuff... couple questions19:54
NimeshNeemamcc: voila yes. got my query resolved. thanks19:55
mcccool19:55
mccone, i keep getting an error that gdk/gdkx.h can't be found, i google and see signs this is indicative of a problem with gtk-config being missing19:55
mccgtk-config in fact doesn't seem to be present19:55
mccbut i don't find that in the package file search...19:55
mcchow do i get gtk-config / make gdk/gdkx.h findable?19:55
mccQuestion two-- is there just like-- some big metapackage i can install, that includes "all the headers you will probably need"?19:56
mccBecuase I've been just repeatedly typing in apt-get lines for -dev packages i don't have19:56
mccrepeatedly19:56
zakkotroni need to create a custom command in the open with menu and the command takes the filename to be opened as a command-line argument(i want to pass the current filename that is the one being double-clicked)19:56
zakkotronplz help19:56
helo1hey guys, I'm having an issue with my wireless. The problem is sporadic. Sometimes it won't happen for a few days, other it happens every few hours. I have found a reboot to be the only fix so far. It connects and works fine for an arbitrary amount of time and then randomly disconnects. It then refuses to connect again, asking for credentials over and over. This is the error from syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/788228/ I'm running U19:57
ashwinI think empathy is a crap compared to pidgin. I changed my irc nickname in empathy  settings, yet it doesnt show up. I restarted the empathy twice, still the same thing. I think it ignores the setting and is picking from ubuntu username.19:57
lakewhy do i see ubuntu-unregged ugh?19:58
oCeanlake: you're no longer in -unregged19:58
mrkHi everyone, I am trying to connect to a scanner that is attached to my network. the IP address is 192.168.1.22 but i cannot add it to xsane backend please help19:59
lakeoCean: okay, thx for the confirmation. some reason i still see it.19:59
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jriblake: it's part of #ubuntu's mode settings20:00
glebihanmcc, the package you're missing is probably either libgtk-3-dev or libgtk2.0-dev (depending on whether the application you're trying to compile is a gtk2 or gtk3 app)20:00
BluesKajmrk, add it to /etc/hosts.allow as root20:00
mccglebihan: Yeah... I installed both those packages already20:00
LucidGuyanyone experienced with virsh snapshot-deletes?20:00
e01someone to help enabling 5.1 surround, the method with editing /etc/pulse/daemon.conf not works20:00
mccthere's this package file search... http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?mode=filename&suite=karmic&section=all&arch=any&searchon=contents&keywords=libgtk-config it told me to install libgtk2.0-dev20:00
mccso what i suspect is that the file i want is actually installed, but the build script for this particular thing i am building doesn't know how to find it20:01
glebihanmcc, what's the application you're trying to compile ?20:01
mrkblueskaj thanks ill try it now20:01
jribIn oneiric on a macbook 4,1, « xset s activate » does not turn off the backlight; it just reduces brightness to a minumum.  How can I make it turn off the backlight?  (Yes, I've executed « xset s blank »)20:01
Seveas!find gdk/gdkx.h20:01
ubottuFile gdk/gdkx.h found in libgtk-3-dev, libgtk2.0-dev, lsb-build-desktop320:01
xsaidxi dont kno why my sudoers files get modified to NOPASSWD and its not the first time tho , any idea what may caus that20:01
mccglebihan: Polycode -- http://polycode.org/ -- it's a ridiculously obscure game library, it's in alpha and the probability of its cmake scripts being misconfigured are quite high20:02
Seveasthere you go mcc :)20:02
cubicoolHey guys, I'm running ubuntu 11.10 and for some reason, /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu and /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu aren't used by ldconfig. I can add these manually, but it seems to indicate something more systematically "broken" IMO. Any ideas what's going on?20:02
mccseveas, I have all three of those installed20:02
jribxsaidx: nosy brother20:02
mccIs it surprising that there is not a gtk-config command on my system?20:02
xsaidxjrib:  what ?20:02
Seveas!find gtk-config20:02
ubottuFile gtk-config found in gnome-humility-icon-theme, gnome-icon-theme-gartoon, gnome-icon-theme-gartoon-redux, libpeas-dev, librcc-dev20:02
Seveashmm20:02
jribxsaidx: another human being20:02
mccinteresting. i wonder why the website didn't find it...20:02
Seveas!find /usr/bin/gtk-config20:02
ubottuPackage/file /usr/bin/gtk-config does not exist in oneiric20:02
urlin2uxsaidx, that doesn't happen without somebody doing it.20:03
xsaidxjrib: noo its my machine and none use it20:03
glebihanmcc, mentioned on the download page : Unfortunately, there is currently no support for Linux users, but it will be coming in the next few weeks!20:03
jribxsaidx: maybe you do it in your sleep? :)  Nothing should touch that file (and nothing can touch that file without sudo)20:03
mccglebihan: Yeah, that's for the official release. I'm working off github D:20:03
xsaidxjrib: trust me i didnt20:03
mccanyway looks like it's time to file bug reports20:04
glebihanmcc, I know, but that's mentioned right above the link to github20:04
mrkblueskaj it says it will not allow20:04
Seveasmcc, ah, gtk-config is for GTK 1, a completely dead library. This won't fly.20:05
mccglebihan: yeah... the web page hasn't been updated since like July :) I think there have been itermittent revisions in github since then that supported linux, but that doesn't mean I actualy have one such version or that the "supports linux" version worked anywhere except on the original developer's machine20:05
Electric_Uanyone know what "tethical" means?20:06
mccseveas: then surely i don't actually need it. cool20:06
mccanyway i think this at least confirms the problem is with Polycode, not Ubuntu20:06
Seveasay20:06
guntbertElectric_U: is that an ubuntu support question?20:06
Electric_Unot especially20:07
mccis ubuntu still using updatedb/locate to find files or is there something better everyone's moved to now20:07
Seveasmcc, mlocate20:07
Seveaswhich has a non-stupid version of updatedb20:07
stakhanov@onix111: Unfortunately the disable WakeOnLan bios tip didn't help on powering down the ethernet device.20:07
mccbut i still just type updatedb to update the locate db?20:08
Seveasyeah20:08
mcccool thanks all20:08
Seveasand cron does that for you too :)20:08
onixx111stakhanov: you may be out of luck then. as I said, my own PC here has the link up led on as soon as a power cord is connected to the PC20:08
guntbertElectric_U: in that case please use #ubuntu-offtopic for such discussions20:08
mcci bet, but i just installed like 10 packages20:08
mcc+ dependencies20:08
stakhanov@onix111: I guess I will try some other command to disable it entirely.20:10
stakhanov@onix111: Thanks, anyway! :)20:10
guntbertstakhanov: no need for the @  on irc :)20:11
passwordHappy New Year20:12
passwordHappy New Year20:12
passwordHappy New Year20:12
FloodBot1password: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:12
BluesKajmrk , alt+F2 , gksudo gedit /etc/hosts.allow , add the pormap then below that, ALL: 192.168.1.2220:13
BluesKajmrk, pormap=portmap20:13
passwordHappy New Year20:14
stakhanovOops!20:14
stakhanov:)20:14
oCeanpassword: thanks, but please move on topic, or /join #ubuntu-offtopic for social chat20:14
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SeveasoCean, there's not much support going on in here now anyway, embrace the positive vibes of a happy new year ;)20:15
benbloomI need help getting a usb 2.0 pci card working. anyone got the time/interest?20:15
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Seveas!anyone | benbloom20:16
ubottubenbloom: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.20:16
dmz41Just installed Ubuntu. I see graphics driver unknown in "system info".20:16
loganRunjust install ubuntu... how do I get the nvidia drivers install20:16
xcyclistls20:16
owenllloganRun: System Settings -> Additional Drivers20:16
Seveas!nvidia | loganRun20:16
ubottuloganRun: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto20:16
BluesKajSeveas, nothing wrong with wishing good cheer , some should take notice of that and lighten up :)20:16
passwordRELAX PEOPLE YOU DO NOT WHERE YOUR Ubuntu will not get !!!20:17
oCeanpassword: stop that please20:17
Seveaspassword, hmm, some actual grammar may help though, that sentence is unparseable20:17
benbloomwell Seveas. I need help getting my usb card working. not sure why it's not showing up but i have no idea where to begin20:17
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Seveasbenbloom, ok, is it showing up with 'lspci'?20:17
xcyclistSay, I'm getting an email every 5 minutes to root that says:  " No ds tag found for target type ."  Can I make that go away?20:18
Seveaswhen you plug something in, does the device get power? Presumably data transfer isn't happening?20:18
Seveasxcyclist, remove the broken cronjob you added :)20:18
xcyclistBut I have never put in anything for "cricket", and this has been going since october.20:18
passwordSeveas I FROM RUSSIA sry mi inglish ))20:19
Seveasxcyclist, look in /etc/cron.d/cricket (at least that's where I'd guess a cronjob for cricket would be)20:19
Seveaspassword, maybe #ubuntu-ru is more to your liking then :)20:19
xcyclistYes, looking.20:19
loganRunis it better to use twinview or seporate screen20:19
loganRunwhen configuring a second monitor20:20
SeveasloganRun, whatever works for you.20:20
passwordI would like to congratulate all obizhatsya not to please Russian20:20
loganRunwhat is the difference?20:20
passwordbb ppl20:20
mccoh20:20
mccno20:20
mcchell20:20
Seveas!enter | mcc20:20
ubottumcc: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!20:21
Seveas:)20:21
reeskthere isnt a standard to ubuntu hostnames is there like its got to be penquin related is there cause ive jut called mine ibiza20:22
benbloomSeveas: yes i beleive it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/788255/ I think it's the nvidia MCP73but it could be the NEC controller too. can you tell which one is the builtin?20:22
mccsorry... ok so this is bizarre, the ubuntu image virtualbox distribuets is set up to suspend when the battery on the system is detected to be low. does this make sense? it isn't a real computer, why is it suspending :P20:22
Seveasreesk, no, hostname standards are the fun of computer building, ubuntu doesn't get in the way :)20:22
dmz41hmmm. I have ati card - but "Additional drivers" doesn't show any drivers that have to be installed.20:22
Seveas(mine are all named after airplanes, cameloids and insects)20:23
Seveas!fglrx | dmz4120:23
ubottudmz41: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto20:23
Gneamcc: so that it doesn't drain the battery of the host computer20:23
Seveasdmz41, you may want the "fglrx" driver20:23
reeskok wasnt sure weather ubuntu users kept them enguin related like naming each server after a famous penquin20:23
dmz41what would be the best driver for this one: VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]20:24
Seveasmcc, that's just the default setting, they didn't bother to change it20:24
Seveasdmz41, I'd go for fglrx20:24
mccgnea: i guess that makes sense. anyway thanks20:24
reesklike how alot of progs are names tux or gnu or some other os name20:24
Seveasbenbloom, the 00:04.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP73 [nForce 630i] USB 2.0 Controller (EHCI) (rev a1) is the builtin20:24
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BluesKajdmz41, is ther e a "recommended driver" in the additional drivers list ?20:25
NimeshNeemai installed get-flash-videos using apt-get but couldn't find it how to execute. any idea ?20:25
Seveas01:06.0 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43) will be the extra controller, seems like ubuntu recognizes it just fine20:25
dmz41BluesKaj: no =- there is no recommended driver.20:25
BluesKajdmz41, ok  , too bad20:25
benbloomok Seveas. that was my second guess ;)20:25
owenllNimeshNeema: get_flash_videos [url] in terminal?20:26
krisss117hi, how scan wifi ap in command line ?20:26
guest_heres a cool program I wrote guys check it out http://pastebin.com/RRAYHtNf20:27
Seveasbenbloom, so, what happens if you plug in a device in the usb port? Can you plug in some storage device, then run dmesg and pastebin all the output?20:27
NimeshNeemaowenll: how to get the url of videos ?20:27
Seveas(wait 10 seconds between plugging in and running dmesg)20:27
oCeanguest_: don't advertise that here20:27
guntbertkrisss117: sudo iwlist scan20:27
krisss117thxxxx20:28
owenllNimeshNeema: source code of page? in youtube it's in the address bar20:29
jpsmanI have a destkop and a laptop both running 10.04 that are connected with an ethernet cable.  how can i share the files over the ethernet cable?20:30
jpsmanOr what would one even type into google to find this out?20:30
trismNimeshNeema: I think the idea is you give the url to the webpage of the video, not the video itself (if you had that, you could just use wget)20:30
Seveasjpsman, samba, http, ssh, rsync20:30
SeveasI find it easiest to install openssh-server on both and use ssh or rsync, but I'm a terminal junkie :)20:30
NimeshNeemaowenll: cool. thanks20:30
Seveasjpsman, and I'd google for 'ubuntu file sharing'20:31
benbloomSeveas: thanks for your help. the problem seems to have worked itself out. I am a bit embarrassed for coming here before I tested the port again. but i've learned a valuable lesson20:31
NimeshNeematrism: will try with wget as well20:31
jpsmanSeveas, so I would just run ssh and then with what command?  eth0?20:31
Seveasjpsman, do both machines have an IP address already?20:31
BluesKaj!ssh | jpsman20:32
ubottujpsman: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)20:32
Seveasnetwork-manager should do this link-local thing automagically20:32
Seven_Six_Twojpsman, are the two computers permanently connected with network cable?20:32
Seveasbenbloom, no problem :)20:32
crassusHow high is the accuracy/likelihood of what Ubuntu's telling me about "disk failure being imminent" ?20:32
benbloomjpsman: you also might be interested in nfs20:32
jpsmanseveas, well, they are both connected wirelessly to a WLAN router, and I can definatly transfer files that way, but it take FOREVER20:32
Seven_Six_Twojpsman, and is it a crossover cable?20:32
reeskwhats the best way to set up samba through tasksel or manually after the install20:32
jpsmanyes, i am using a crossover cable20:32
Seven_Six_Twojpsman, how are you transferring when you use the wifi?20:33
Seveasjpsman, did network-manager set up the wired connection for you?20:33
guntbertcrassus: as it is taking that estimate from SMART, I'd say rather high20:33
compitzhi guys, can you help me chroot commands for quick20:33
jpsmanno network-manager did not.20:33
crassusguntbert: how long generally do i have?20:33
HalabundHow can I install a package from synaptic *without* installing certain dependencies?  I do not want to install any texlive packages, ever, as I already have a newer version of texlive installed (which doesn't use .debs unfortunately)20:33
crassusand what's SMART?20:33
Seveasjpsman, try clicking on the network-manager icon and then 'wired' or something. On both at the same time.20:33
Seveas!smart20:34
jribIn oneiric on a macbook 4,1, « xset s activate » does not turn off the backlight; it just reduces brightness to a minumum.  How can I make it turn off the backlight?  (Yes, I've executed « xset s blank »)20:34
compitzedbain, are you there20:34
jpsmanwith the wireless i can just connect with filezilla or even go up to Places -> connect to server and I use the WLAN ip address20:34
compitzedbian , are you there20:34
Seveascrassus, smart is a way for disks to notify the operating system when they see a breakage coming on.20:34
guntbertcrassus: cannot say  - see Self-Monitoring, Analysis and Reporting Technology20:34
jpsmansevas, they are both spinning now20:34
crassusgood thing I've been meaning to migrate to a fresh install and I've backed up pretty much everything, including all my settings and important dotfiles and documents20:34
jribHalabund: just use the packages from the repositories for texlive or if you insist use equivs (but I don't recommend this)20:34
Seven_Six_Twojpsman, If you can just connect to a router with both it will be easier. then set up nfs for fast transfers. it's faster than ssh because it doesn't encrypt and decrypt20:35
crassusoh well, this calls for a new notebook then20:35
jpsmanwell, they are both connected with a wireless router, and I can do it wirelessly, but it takes forever20:35
jpsmanand no i cant get to the router that way20:35
Seveasjpsman, did the spinning stop already?20:36
Seven_Six_Twojpsman, are you trying to use ssh over the wifi?20:36
Halabundjrib, the repositories (or: any repository that I managed to google up) contains a very outdated version of texlive.  I am already using packages which are too new to work with this (I used them on Windows with MikTeX).  I don't want to rewrite my tex files just because ubuntu doesn't include up to date versions of texlive.20:36
jpsmansevas, yes the spinning stoped and it said disconnected20:36
Halabundjrib, what are equivs?  Does that thing allow me to skip installing texlive?20:36
jpsmanseven_six_two, i can do that easily, just takes forever20:36
Seveasok, then you need to configure it, click on n-m, go to edit connections20:36
jpsmanok20:36
compitzis there a log of this chaT?20:37
Seveasand add a 'wired connection' with a fixed ip address in a different network range than your wireless20:37
jpsmanI have Auto eth0 and Auto Ethernet20:37
Seven_Six_Twojpsman, nfs would be faster than ssh, but if you want to use crossover, you can set up a static network20:37
Seveasjpsman, 10.13.37.1 and 10.13.37.2 will probably do. Make the netmask 255.255.255.020:37
guntbert!logs | compitz20:37
ubottucompitz: Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too; for older LoCo channel logs, see http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/20:37
jribHalabund: apt-cache show equivs20:37
Seven_Six_Twojpsman, put both on the same subnet like Seveas says. no need for gateway.20:37
reeskis open ssh the thing that will alow me to login to the terminal remotley20:38
osmosisis there an extension to unload a tab from memory if it has been unused for a while? So that a bunch of tabs I havent looked at recently are not taking up a lot of ram.20:38
compitzthx guntbert20:38
Seveasreesk, it is indeed20:38
reeskthanks20:38
bohello, i am trying to make karmic koala work on my cpu.  can somebody please help me?...20:38
guntbertcompitz: you're welcome :-)20:38
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Seven_Six_Twobo, why karmic?20:38
Seveas!anyone | bo20:38
ubottubo: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.20:38
oCeanbo: karmic is end of life, try a more recent version20:38
compitzguntbert, i need the one of today, this is Dec 1. and older20:38
boi have tried looking at the community forums and doing some of the things it suggested but to no avail20:38
guntbertbo: karmic is !eol20:38
SeveasIsn't karmic LTS?20:39
crassusno Seveas20:39
oCeanSeveas: no lucid is 10 0420:39
rhizmoedoes anybody remember that window manager navigation thingy that was like an expanding circle around the mouse pointer?20:39
Seveasah, crap, right20:39
reeskif i plug a external usb hdd drive into ubuntu server can i have it mounted as a network share and also will it survive a reboot20:39
Seveasyeah, don't use karmic20:39
guntbertcompitz: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/12/30/ubuntu.html20:39
rhizmoereesk: yes and yes20:39
compitzcan someone see what edbian told me earlier on this page?20:39
Seveasreesk, yes you can mount it, and I don't know what you mean with 'survive a reboot'20:40
guntbertcompitz: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/12/30/#ubuntu.html20:40
hiltonmagktrying to install Ubuntu 11.04 and it's rebooting right after it gets done installing the base system.  Had luck installing on a different machine with a different video card and tried to install with the nomodeset per ActionParship but that didn't fix the problem20:40
reeskwhen i reboot will ubuntu remount it to the network share the same it would with a intrnal drive20:40
boso if i have karmic installed, then i should just make an .iso image of 11.10 (somehow), and install that also (or delete karmic in the process)?20:41
Seveasreesk, if you tell it to.20:41
Seven_Six_Tworeesk, I think it might try to export the drive before it's mounted20:41
reeskSeveas: cool20:41
reeskSeven_Six_Two: what does that mean20:41
compitzguntbert, which one is the #ubuntu channel?20:41
Seven_Six_Tworeesk, it's external, like a usb external hd?20:41
Seveasbo, well, if it's not working anyway, just wipe it and install 11.04 or 11.1020:42
reeskyes20:42
bowipe it?20:42
dmz41em. So. how to install open-source ATI driver in freshly installed Uubntu 10.10?20:42
Seven_Six_Tworeesk, are you trying to export it with nfs?20:42
Seveasdmz41, that one is installed by default :)20:42
guntbertcompitz: sorry, try http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/12/30/%23ubuntu.html20:42
jxlbo: just install new one20:42
reeskSeven_Six_Two: im not sure im just ryring to get the same setup i had in freenas where i left if plugged in and it mounted it as a nfs networ share so i could access it via windoze20:43
reeskand through a few other services20:43
bo11.04 vs 11.10?20:43
Seveasthat's not nfs but samba20:43
Seveaswindows doesn't do nfs :)20:43
reeskive installed samba20:43
bowhat do ya'll use?20:43
Seveas12.04 alpha, bo :)20:43
dmz41Seveas: . "It is also enabled by default from Ubuntu Natty/11.04 on." - but it doesn't work????20:43
jxlbo: depends what you need20:44
t1m310rdi need to port an installation to a 2 drive raid0 installation. the installation will use the drive where the os was already installed20:44
Seveas!doesn't work | dmz4120:44
ubottudmz41: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.20:44
reeskcould one of you run me though setting this drive up in samba when i gt to it in a few ins20:44
duckduckgoi wonnder how many people would switch to ubuntu if adobe supported linux20:44
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Seven_Six_Tworeesk, I believe you would have to explicitly mount it in fstab, because I don't think it will automount like it does when you're logged in and you plug it in.20:45
dmz41ubottu: system info -> graphics -> driver says "unknown".20:45
ubottudmz41: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:45
oCeanduckduckgo: please use #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat20:45
bowhy would somebody want to use older versions of ubuntu?20:45
bo*choose to use20:45
reeskSeven_Six_Two: it wont be unplugging it ever so it will become a permenant drive to the server so im open to doing anything20:45
dmz41ubottu: ?20:45
auronandace!bot | dmz4120:45
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jxlbo: i.e. using LTS to have updates etc.20:46
reesk!sudo20:46
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bowho cares about updates?20:46
reesklove it20:46
reeskplease excuse me20:46
auronandacebo: many people20:46
reesk!fstab20:46
ubottuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions20:46
reeskubottu i love you20:47
bobut what is good about updates?20:47
ubottureesk: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:47
oCeanreesk: to use the bot in private type  /msg ubottu !bot20:47
NimeshNeema!ubuntu20:47
ubottuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com20:47
Melissa2012I have a HP 64 bit Laptop.  Which alternative ISO do I need? the one called? ubuntu-11.10-alternate-amd64.iso.torrent ?20:47
oCeanbo: security updates are usually a wise choice to install20:47
jribbo: updates usually fix some problem, e.g. a security issue20:47
Melissa2012whats LTS?20:47
jxlbo: nvm, just install latest version20:47
SeveasMelissa2012, Long Term Support20:47
auronandace!lts | Melissa201220:48
ubottuMelissa2012: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04)20:48
reeski like that bot20:48
Melissa2012Seveas: im confused which ISO to get from here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download20:48
boso if somebody is not interested in security issues, then updates don't matter?20:48
dmz41So I get this: system info -> graphics -> driver says "unknown".  I'm on fresh Ubuntu 10.10 install.20:48
reeskyay i got over 5 years of support for server 1120:48
SeveasMelissa2012, what do you want to do?20:48
Melissa2012Seveas: theres so many, which one is the 64 bit that will work on my HP Laptop?20:48
jribbo: erm, I guess20:48
bohm. ok20:48
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compitzdoes 10.4 lucid by default work with grub2?20:48
oCeanreesk: no, 5 years is for LTS releases (10.04, 12.04)20:48
Melissa2012Seveas: I want to install Ubuntu 64 bit OS on my HP Laptop, then use for media, internet, TV etc20:49
reeskwut20:49
reeskyou mean 11 wotn becoem a lts20:49
Guest31512I'm using gnome 3, can anyone tell me how to change a double-click on the title bar from minimize to maximize?20:49
oCeanreesk: correct20:49
Melissa2012Seveas: and I want to encrypt the file system in case laptop gets stolen20:49
reeskaww nuts20:49
jribreesk: no such thing as version 11, there's 11.04 and 11.1020:49
SeveasMelissa2012, go to http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download, select latest and 64 bit, then click download20:49
Seven_Six_Tworeesk, http://myubuntublog.wordpress.com/2009/05/25/auto-mount-usb-hard-drive-at-boot/20:49
SeveasMelissa2012, during install you can select 'encrypt my homedir'20:49
dmz41ubottu: system info -> graphics -> driver says "unknown".20:49
ubottudmz41: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:49
dmz41system info -> graphics -> driver says "unknown".20:49
boso would anybody care to help me get my karmic koala working?... or point me in the right direction?20:50
Melissa2012Seveas: is selecting 'encrypt my homedir' the same as getting the altenrative and encrypting the whole ubuntu?20:50
jxlbo: updates do matter20:50
oCeanbo: karmic is EOL, and no longer supported in this channel20:50
auronandacebo: karmic is no longer supported here20:50
SeveasMelissa2012, no, but you don't really need to encrypt anything besides your homedir, do you?20:50
Seven_Six_TwoMelissa2012, no, they are not the same20:50
booh... is there a channel that it's supported in? or do i have to support myself with it? lol20:50
oCeanbo: End Of Life = no more support20:51
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Melissa2012Seveas: good point :)20:51
jxlbo: why do you need karmic?20:51
auronandacebo: you support it yourself or use something that is supported20:51
reeskhow come 11.04 wont be lts20:51
Melissa2012Seveas: in case my laptop gets stolen, nobody can access my private files then?20:51
oCeanreesk: LTS have 2 year interval20:51
hiltonmagktrying to install Ubuntu 11.04 and it's rebooting right after it gets done installing the base system.  Had luck installing on a different machine with a different video card and tried to install with the nomodeset per ActionParship but that didn't fix the problem20:51
Seveasreesk, LTS releases come once every 2 years20:51
reeskahh20:51
Slartbo: you can always try one of general channels.. like ##linux .. they might just say you should install something newer though.. but perhaps someone will help you out20:52
reeskhey if ubuntu installes grub 2 does that mean i get all the cool things such as iso boot aswell20:52
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SeveasMelissa2012, private files are only in your homedir, or at least they should be :)20:52
bojxl: i don't need it, but i waz using it and would like to make it work... no strong reason20:52
bothanks Slart20:52
dmz41this channell is pointless. too many people lemmings.20:52
Guest31512where can I go for gnome3 support?20:52
SeveasGuest31512, #gnome on irc.gimp.org :)20:52
SlartGuest31512: I think there is a ##gnome channel..20:52
jpsmanoh WOW much better - 7mb versus 500 k20:52
Melissa2012Seveas: security and ecryption is highest priority in case my lattop gets stolen.  So i will get the normal ISO and select encrypt home dir, and that will give me the best security possible?20:52
* reesk has uch <3 for iso boot20:52
jpsmanthanks guys!20:52
jpsman:OP20:52
jpsman:OD20:52
FloodBot1jpsman: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:53
* reesk has *much <3 for iso boot20:53
compitzc_smith, i didnt work, still black screen, also to  edbian, escott20:53
SeveasMelissa2012, that'll give you an encrypted homedir. I think that strikes the best balance between fast and safe.20:53
Melissa2012Seveas: sounds good to me :)20:53
SeveasI use it as well, and store non-personal movies etc. outside the encrypted homedir20:53
Melissa2012Seveas: thank you20:53
hiltonmagkCan anyone help me?20:53
Melissa2012hiltonmagk: i wish I could, but I have no clue :P20:54
Seven_Six_Twocompitz, you can't boot? did you install from usb?20:54
Jordan_Ureesk: Yes, you can use Ubuntu's grub2 to loop boot isos (if the isos support loop booting).20:54
guntbertMelissa2012: well, strictly speaking, part of your data may be still accessible in /tmp and in swap20:54
Seveasguntbert, cryptswap :)20:54
Seveasand you shouldn't store personal things in /tmp20:54
Melissa2012guntbert: what kind of private data can be in /tmp and in swap that thieves could use?20:54
SeveasMelissa2012, swap can contain anything that's in memory, so you can encrypt the swap partition20:54
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Slarthiltonmagk: I think it's supposed to reboot when it's done installing.. but I assume it reboots/crashes during the install, right? any error messages?20:55
Seveas/tmp shouldn't contain anything personal20:55
compitzSeven_Six_Two, i can boot installed from live cd long ago, now change video driver, blck screen on startup20:55
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Melissa2012Seveas: so I can encrypt the swap file later after installation using cryptswap ?20:55
hiltonmagkyeah it reboots during20:55
hiltonmagkno errors20:55
guntbertMelissa2012: any program you use can use files in /tmp ....20:55
skegeekI reinstalled (back to 10.04) to stop the freezing, but it didn't work. However, I noticed the freeze happens after the monitor light has turned orange (after screen has turned black).20:55
Seven_Six_Twocompitz, can you alt+ctrl+F1 and see a terminal?20:55
Melissa2012guntbert: can u give me some examples where personal data can be in /tmp?20:56
compitznope, nothing shows after GRUB screen20:56
SeveasMelissa2012, I'm not sure whether I did that during or after install. It's definitely possible to do it afterwards though20:56
Melissa2012Seveas: where do I get cryptswap ?20:56
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SeveasMelissa2012, it's installed by default20:56
compitzSeven_Six_Two , nope, nothing shows after GRUB screen20:56
Seven_Six_Twocompitz, can you boot a different kernel?20:56
Melissa2012Seveas: how do I activate cryptswap so my swap is always encrypted?20:56
Seveasand if the installer doesn't offer you the option to encrypt swap, google for 'ubuntu encrypted swap' later, it's easy to set up20:56
compitzSeven_Six_Two, why would I do that?20:57
Melissa2012guntbert: how can I clean out the tmp folder automatically everytime I turn laptop off?20:57
Slarthiltonmagk: hard to tell.. I've had my ubuntu box crash/restart on me without error messages but never during install... you're sure the install media is alright? md5 check and so on20:57
Seven_Six_Twocompitz, so that you can get to a terminal and undo.20:57
SeveasMelissa2012, ubuntu already does that :)20:57
compitzhmm, sounds too weiry20:57
guntbertMelissa2012: I don't want to scare you, but that depends entirely on the programs - just get a balance with your security needs - is it only private or are there enterprise data as well?20:57
hiltonmagkI used the same disk on another install20:57
Seven_Six_Twocompitz, you can fix pretty much anything from a terminal. what are you expecting?20:57
Melissa2012Seveas: so everytime I turn off laptop, it auto cleans out the tmp folder?20:58
Seveasyeah20:58
hiltonmagkI think it's the video card possibly but not sure how to bypassthat problem20:58
compitzSeven_Six_Two, hmm, sounds too weiry, well i wanna see it, now on live CD i have it, trying to figure out if that will suffice with chroot20:58
Seven_Six_Twocompitz, "weiry"? booting to a different kernel is far easier than trying to chroot.\20:59
Slarthiltonmagk: well.. either that or memory/overheating issues20:59
hiltonmagkchecked memory and I can't imagine it's overheating21:00
compitzSeven_Six_Two weary, exhausting im new to that, well, im telling you what im doing in a sec, you can judge my newbie behaviour if you want...21:00
Slarthiltonmagk: you're using the alternate install? or the regular desktop install live cd?21:00
Seven_Six_Twocompitz, and if you can get to a terminal, you can either uninstall the bad driver, or just do:   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg21:00
hiltonmagkserver install21:01
Melissa2012Seveas: thats good to know, so once I encrypt homedir, encrypt swap file and ubuntu auto cleans /tmp when I turn off.  Is there anything else I need to do?21:01
Selmackexit21:01
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vouthHi again. Why is my script, in /usr/bin/wxn/, always using /root for $HOME????21:01
Melissa2012guntbert: the data I have on my laptop is very secure and sensitive from the corporation I work for.  Nobody can get access to it or it will compromise my company.21:02
Slarthiltonmagk: hmm.. well... then I'm out of ideas.. not sure if you can run the install in some kind of verbose mode to get a better idea about what is making it die21:02
Seven_Six_Twovouth, who is the script's owner and group?21:02
vouthSeven_Six_Two: root21:02
Melissa2012guntbert: you seem to not like this idea of encrypting homedir, swap file? why not?21:02
Seven_Six_Twovouth, root's home is /root21:02
Melissa2012why is downloading the Ubuntu iso so slow?21:03
vouthSeven_Six_Two: Well, it's being run by another user. And that user's home is under /home.21:03
compitzSeven_Six_Two, now this is what im doing, cause in http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/ it sounded so easy: i edited the grub line to "quiet splash nomodeset" -like suggested for nvidia, now the second step would be to update-grub, this is what im about to21:03
SlartMelissa2012: try one of the torrent downloads.. might be better21:03
Seven_Six_Twovouth, run with sudo?21:03
vouthSeven_Six_Two: How can I make it use the $HOME of the user running it rather than the $HOME of the owner?21:03
guntbertMelissa2012: no, it was only a generally meant warning - not knowing your expectations - as you said coporate data: I advise to have a talk with your IT folk21:03
Melissa2012guntbert: my IT folks are window users, they dont have a clue lol21:04
Melissa2012thats why I wanted to use Ubuntu, for security reasons21:04
Melissa2012instead of windows21:04
SlartMelissa2012: security comes with the user.. not the tool =)21:04
Melissa2012Slart: how do I find the 64 bit torrent?21:04
vouthSeven_Six_Two: Well, it's being invoked by a .desktop file that is then executing a script which runs gksu on the script that uses $HOME.21:05
guntbertMelissa2012: if they take their notebooks outside the workplace then you should be fine with the above settings21:05
Melissa2012Slart: but the system still needs to be secured21:05
SlartMelissa2012: it's in there somewhere.. let me see if they've moved it somewhere21:05
SeveasMelissa2012, encrypted home and swap is good enough for me. And data on my laptop can do worse things than bankrupt the company :)21:05
vouthSeven_Six_Two: So it basically is using sudo. (at least by my understanding)21:05
Faissalhi i cant get ushare to work with my xbox it says wlan0 is down but its not21:05
Melissa2012is the alternetive ubuntu, and doing a whole system encryption, going to affect performance a lot?21:05
Melissa2012Seveas: hehe21:06
skegeekDoes 10.04 use a black screensaver by default??21:06
SlartMelissa2012: look here http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#bt  .. it's called amd64 regardless of what cpu you're using21:06
Melissa2012Seveas: how much slower and sluggish will the alternative full system encryption be compared to just encrypting the homedir?21:06
Melissa2012Slart: this one? ubuntu-11.10-alternate-amd64.iso.torrent21:07
vouthSeven_Six_Two: Is there some quirk of gksu that I'm missing? Is the problem maybe that a script owned by root is what is running gksu? Do I need to have gksu run directly by the .desktop file?21:07
SlartMelissa2012: that's the 64 bit alternate installer for 11.10, yes21:07
Melissa2012Slart: how much slower and sluggish will the alternative full system encryption be compared to just encrypting the homedir?  had any experience between both?21:07
Seven_Six_Twovouth, I was looking for a solution, but it's sudo's default behaviour to change to target (root) user's environment variables.21:07
SeveasMelissa2012, I found it noticabley slower21:08
Seveasthough that was a while ago21:08
SlartMelissa2012: I've never done full system encryption so I wouldn't know.. haven't heard anything really bad about either though21:08
mccif i'm compiling an application for distribution, is it better to compile against the gtk-2.0 headers or the gtk-3.0 headers? is it possible some people will not be able to use my app if i compile against 3.0?21:08
Melissa2012Seveas: ok21:08
vouthSeven_Six_Two: Also, what would I do about scripts that aren't being run by gksu? They're having the same problem. Hasn't anyone ever needed to run a script owned by root that edits files in the executor's home directory before ??!?21:09
compitzSeven_Six_Two does this look good what im doing? chrooting update-grub on hdd?21:09
ironfoot495Hi I have a problem with filezlla I can upload files but I can't download files is there anyone who has had this problem?21:09
Melissa2012its downloading at 1.1MB/s now :)21:09
reeskwhat text editors does ubuntu server have beside vi i hate vi21:09
Seveasreesk, emacs, nano, joe21:10
Slartreesk: pico?21:10
Melissa2012Seveas: im getting the normal version and will encrypt homedir. Thanks for your advice21:10
Seveasreesk, but you should join the vim cult! We have cookies!21:10
guiriHowdy.  Firefox seems to be disabling lightspark, a flash plugin.  Does anyone know how to explicitly enable it?  it doesn't even show up in the Addons, but I see it in the /usr/share plugins folder21:10
reeskscrew vim its confusing as heck to use21:10
TridenXIs this the most popular channel on freenode?21:10
gnutunim having trouble boot the install cd from usb on a macbook air; the video is all messed up, and nomodeset doesnt help; any ideas?21:11
Melissa2012one last question.  Can the Ubuntu ISO I am downloading be installed on a windows system and will it create a dual boot menu?21:11
ironfoot495is there a better sftp out there?21:11
reeskthings never go well when me and vim get together21:12
reeski hve much love for gedit21:12
BluesKajguiri, it should be in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins21:12
SeveasMelissa2012, yes and yes21:12
ironfoot495I can upload but not down files.21:12
compitzfollowing this link didnt work http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/  maybe because i couldnt run update-grub. can someone help here?21:12
guiriBluesKaj: Thanks!  I'll cp them in21:13
VCooliovouth: specify user like gksu -u yourname command21:13
Seven_Six_Twovouth, gksudo takes the -k switch to preserve $PATH and $HOME21:14
BluesKajguiri, make sure it's the libflashplayer.so21:14
VCooliovouth: or if multiple user need to use this: gksu -u $(whoami) command21:14
ironfoot495 compitz: I've recently had that problem and solved it do you need help?21:14
guiriwell, in this case it's liblightspark.so but I believe is registers as Flash 10.2.  I'm running on PPC, so flash on Linux doesn't work21:14
ironfoot495if so tell me what is the problem?21:14
onixx111I am trying to boot over PXE the live CD and mount an NFS share on /cow. I have modified the casper script to do this. I believe I had it all setup properly hover I get a kernel crash when the mount command runs. something to do with nfs_lookup_revalidate21:14
compitzim hungry for help ironfoot495, been stuck on this for 3 days now21:14
Seven_Six_Twovouth, sudo does a similar thing with -E21:14
BluesKajguiri,  right21:15
ironfoot495or what have you done to solve it so far?21:15
compitzironfoot495, was your problem with 10.4 lucid as well?21:15
Melissa2012Seveas: I need to keep Windows 7 for one thing, to play Battlefield online.  If Ubuntu would support that, then I could remove Windiws 7 for good.21:15
onixx111kernel oops error with a trace21:15
Melissa2012Seveas: oh well :P21:15
iceroot!appdb | Melissa201221:15
ubottuMelissa2012: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help21:15
ironfoot495ok talk to me what have done so far what type of screen and anything else you can think of?21:15
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reeskanyone got experiance in fstab21:15
iceroot!anyone | reesk21:16
ubottureesk: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.21:16
ironfoot495yes21:16
Melissa2012iceroot: Battlefield don't work on Wine and Ubuntu, ive read about it.  I think PUnkbuster is the main culprit21:16
icerootMelissa2012: ah ok :(21:16
ironfoot495so what have you done so far you have to let me know hee you are21:16
VCoolioSeven_Six_Two: with sudo -E whoami is still root :/21:16
ironfoot495where you are?21:16
reeskis this the correct syntax /dev/sb1 /mnt/640 auto auto,user,rw,exec 0 021:17
Melissa2012iceroot: its a shame, if my online game worked on Ubuntu, I would remove Windows for good21:17
Seven_Six_TwoVCoolio, yes, but whoami should have access to your path and home, not root's21:17
compitzironfoot495, http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/ it sounded so easy: i edited the grub line to "quiet splash nomodeset" -like suggested for nvidia. the second step was not possible for the original problem is a black/shut off screen after the lucid load, at the point of time wehen the login-screen should appear, i cannto open a termial cause all I see is black21:17
Melissa2012iceroot: do ubuntu have any plans to support online games like battlefield etc?21:17
icerootMelissa2012: that is not in the hand of ubuntu, its in the hand of EA21:18
icerootMelissa2012: and EA is evil like hell/apple21:18
Seven_Six_TwoVCoolio, try  sudo -E echo $HOME21:18
compitzironfoot495, the socond step would be update-grub21:18
alruinmag ik een dropje21:18
icerootreesk: /dev/sdb121:18
ironfoot495ok you have worked with grub did you add the proprietary driver yet?21:19
oCeanalruin: wrong channel, try #ubuntu-nl21:19
edbianMelissa2012, the wine project is probably trying to get that game working.  Look it up on winehq.com21:19
alruindank je wel'21:19
VCoolioSeven_Six_Two: yes, did something like that, that's ok; but if whoami is root, what would file permissions be on a file created in $HOME by his script? owned by root, right? doesn't sound like something you'd want21:19
icerootreesk: and /mnt/640 will use a directory called "640" inside /mnt i dont think i mean that21:19
reeskthats what i put21:19
ironfoot495you'll find it in systems21:19
Melissa2012edbian: nobody can get battlefield 2142 to work with wine and Ubuntu. I read about it21:19
Seven_Six_TwoVCoolio, good point21:19
edbianMelissa2012, ahhh, sorry to hear that21:19
icerootreesk: i guess you wanted the permission 640?21:19
Melissa2012edbian: me too21:19
compitzironfoot495, i got the problem after uninstalling the standard nvidia driver, i wanted to try the open source one because of minor problems, no I think this messed it all up21:19
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edbianMelissa2012, run win 7 in a virtual machine (or dual boot)21:20
Seven_Six_Twoexit21:20
edbianMelissa2012, gaming is a weak spot for linux21:20
SeveasSeven_Six_Two, here, have a slash: /21:20
Seveas:)21:20
reeski made a dir in mnt called 640 refering to the size of the device for easy reference21:20
Melissa2012edbian: yes I will use Ubuntu for 99% of the time and when I want to play Battlfield, Ill just reboot into W721:20
ironfoot495after you do that reboot and go to recovery and and go to safe graphics and follow the instruction and you will be up!21:20
Melissa2012edbian: yes I realise.21:20
edbianMelissa2012, there  ya go21:21
Melissa2012edbian: :-)21:21
ironfoot495if not I'll go step by step with you.21:21
Edward2Hello again. Having more sound problems. When I click on Sound Settings -> Input and try to change the Connector to Analog Microphone, it resets itself to Analog Line-In. Why does it do that?21:21
compitzironfoot, please can you type my name compitz so i can see you are talking to me21:21
compitzironfoot495, please can you type my name compitz so i can see you are talking to me21:21
ironfoot495 compitz: ok sorry!!!21:21
Melissa2012edbian: the Windows 7 I have is only 32bit, so it will be nice to use 64 bit Ubuntu :-)21:21
edbianironfoot495, I had him install nouveau you can probably get things back to before by just puring that and installing nvidia-96   for the record.  However I think nomodeset will fix the problem he has now21:21
compitzalright, ironfoot49521:22
dunpealHi. Recently, on Oneiric, many times shortly after a reboot, my touchpad stops working. Anyone familar with this problem?21:22
edbianMelissa2012, meh, do you have > 3.2 Gb of ram?21:22
Melissa2012edbian: 4GB ram21:22
guntbert!tab | ironfoot495 compitz21:22
ubottuironfoot495 compitz: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.21:22
edbianMelissa2012, why only 32 bit windows then? cheaper?21:22
icerootMelissa2012: the sad thing is that the game companys mostly dont support games for linux. its no problem to run games on linux (quake, unreal tournament and some others) are running directly on linux. but because most of the people are using windows, the game companys dont support linux because the amount of linux-customers is to small (world of goo was showing something different but game companys dont care about that)21:22
Melissa2012edbian: is there a big benefit me using 64bit ubuntu compared to 32 bit ubuntu?21:22
bbhi all21:22
alruinhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/72492/sound-muted-when-headphones-are-connected-in-11-1021:23
edbianMelissa2012, you get to use all 4Gb of your ram with 64 bit OS (windows or linux)21:23
compitzironfoot495, now this was all I thoght of, i tried chrooting update-grub on the hd.21:23
icerootedbian: there is no amd64 windows which have a good gui :)21:23
Melissa2012edbian: my HP laptop only came with the 32 bit W7, even though my laptop supports 64 bit.  HP reasons, not sure :(21:23
ironfoot495edbian: not always I've done this over a hundred time21:23
mccso i mentioned this before.. i am trying to compile a program written by someone else which includes gdk headers21:23
compitzthx, guntbert21:23
ironfoot495compitz: you'll have to start over21:23
Melissa2012iceroot: I hear ya.  So are there any online games that can be played against others in Ubuntu, similar to Battlefield?21:24
edbianiceroot, huh? 32 and 64 bit windows has the same gui ?21:24
compitzironfoot495:  what do you mean by that?21:24
vouthVCoolio, Seven_Six_Two: Thanks!21:24
bbi have one with 32 bits to although my system supports 64bits. you wont have as many compatibility problems21:24
oCeanmcc: find documentation on the program you'r trying to compile, or contact the maintainers of that package21:24
compitzironfoot495, reinstall?21:24
Melissa2012edbian: is there a big difference between running 32 or 64bit Ubuntu?  faster? smoother?21:24
icerootMelissa2012: unreal tourmanet 2004 with onslaught mode21:24
edbianMelissa2012, weird that they would sell a laptop with 4Gb of ram and a 32 bit OS21:24
ironfoot495compitz: you're confusing yourself21:24
Melissa2012iceroot: are many people online playing it?21:24
icerootedbian: i mean, windows xp was the last windows with a good gui and win xp is only offering 32bit21:24
Melissa2012edbian: thats HP for ya lol21:24
edbianMelissa2012, Technically it is more efficient in some cases.  But the biggest reason to use 64 bit is to use more than 3.2 Gb of ram21:24
ironfoot495compitz:  yes reinstall the proprietary driver first21:24
compitzironfoot495:  i am confused, what do you mean by i had to start over21:25
edbianironfoot495, excellent :)21:25
mcci eventually determined that i had the gdk headers, but it was not finding them correctly... so I put the gdk header path into CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH. But then the gdk header files included other headers which also weren't found, leading me into this bifurcating tree of ubuntu headers, none of which were being included automatically... at this point I am up to a include path that looks like:21:25
mccCPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH=/usr/include/gtk-2.0:/usr/include/gio-unix-2.0:/usr/include/glib-2.0:/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/glib-2.0/include:/usr/include/cairo:/usr/include/pango-1.0:/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0/include21:25
bbwin 7 gui is very good 32bit and 64bit are the same gui21:25
icerootbb: you dont get what i wanted to say with that21:25
ironfoot495compitz: then talk to me when it is done.21:25
compitzironfoot495:  how do I do that from live CD? cant boot normal system....21:25
edbianiceroot, aaah :)  well that's opinion21:25
oCeanmcc: this channel cannot provide support for software which is not in our official repositories21:25
icerootedbian: opinion like "unity is usabke"21:25
mcc...and I am still getting strange headers not found... it seems like I must be missing something. Is there a "standard" way to include everything needed for gdk?21:25
icerootusable21:26
bbyah that might be true21:26
jost_n21:26
Seveasmcc, this is why pkg-config was invented21:26
Melissa2012edbian: if HP was thinking, they would know they should have preinstalled 64bit W7 seeing it comes with 4GB Ram.  I guess HP are a bunch of headless chickens? hehe21:26
ironfoot495compitz: do you have the option of down loading it?21:26
compitzironfoot495: , i guess, i have internet connection...21:27
mccocean: okay... well, the program in question, the maintainer basically disappeared into the ether, so let's just pretend i'm the maintainer. i have a program where i want to include gdk headers, but when i naively include gdk/gdkx.h the built in ubuntu gdk header includes lots of other things that i don't know how to find...21:27
guntbertmcc: not that I can help, but are you actually talking about gtk (instead of gdk)?21:27
mccseveas: hm ok so i should be using pkg-config for this?21:27
edbianMelissa2012, If I were you I wouldn't think it was very funny.  They sold you .8Gb of ram that you can't use with your OS!21:27
benbloomif you have dual core processors and a 32 bit machine you can run 4*1G ram chips right edbian, Melissa2012?21:27
ironfoot495compitz: if you do  that and install that way!!21:27
daysahead5how do you use sshfs?21:28
compitzironfoot495:  i dont see a possible how-to-do-this21:28
icerootbenbloom: or 1x4gb ram chip or 2x 2 gb ram chip21:28
mccguntbert: difficult to say. i think gdk is all that is necessary because we're just tryign to open a window21:28
mccand draw opengl in it21:28
benbloomand with a dual core 64b machine it's 4*2gig? i was21:28
edbianbenbloom, iceroot i've never heard this before.  Why does this work?21:28
icerootbenbloom: no21:28
Seveasmcc, generally you use that as CFLAGS=$(pkg-config --cflags gtk+-2.0) and LDFLAGS=$(pkg-config --libs gtk+-2.0)21:28
submanHow to install a .deb file with apt-get from a local directory?21:28
guntbertmcc: ok, please ignore  me then ....21:28
icerootbenbloom: 32bit supports 4gb memory, doesnt matter how big a ram-chip is21:28
mccguntbert, no, it' shelpful, thanks...21:28
yeehawsubman: dpkg -i file.dep21:28
Seveasmcc, but "fixing insane build systems" goes quite beyond the scope of #ubuntu :)21:28
icerootbenbloom: 64bit supports more then 4gb memory (also doesnt matter how big a ram chip is)21:29
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benbloomok and 64b supports up to 8?21:29
mccseveas: oh, that worked beautfiully, thanks21:29
yeehawsubman: sorry, I meant: Sudo dpkg -i file.deb21:29
ironfoot495when you get on line download ubuntu 10.04 either desktop or server ubuntu server10.04.321:29
icerootbenbloom: and it has nothing to do with the amount of cpu cores21:29
mccor, well, it looks like it worked beautifully, i'll test :P21:29
Seveasiceroot, 32 bit with PAE too :)21:29
icerootSeveas: PAE is not 32bit21:29
SeveasLinux lightning 3.2.0-7-generic-pae #13-Ubuntu SMP Sat Dec 24 20:09:18 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux21:29
Seveasmy uname begs to differ21:29
Edward2Hello. When I click on Sound Settings -> Input and try to change the Connector to Analog Microphone, it resets itself to Analog Line-In. Why does it do that?21:29
icerootSeveas: and pae is bad21:29
submanyeehaw, Thanks, I understood the sudo portion.  Just not the dpkg command.  Trying it now.21:29
benbloomthanks for the info iceroot.21:30
BluesKajsubman, use the dpkg -i command in terminal in the package dir21:30
mccseveas: well, as i alluded earlier, i'm actually working on a fork of this library at this point, so the question is more like "help me fix my insane build system" :(21:30
icerootSeveas: http://www.realworldtech.com/forums/index.cfm?action=detail&id=78966&threadid=78766&roomid=221:30
ironfoot495if you install the server use xubuntu-desktop or apt-get install ubuntu-desktop21:30
compitzironfoot495:  as far as i can see i cant install sth. on installed system, when i dont have a screen there, and when Im using the lucid live cd at the momnet, is ther e a way?21:30
edbianthe PAE kernel allows 32 bit hardware to address more than 3.2Gb of ram21:30
Seveasiceroot, don't trust torvalds blindly.21:30
ironfoot495compitz: talking to you.21:30
yeehawEdward2: What happens if you connect the microphone to the line in port?21:31
icerootedbian: and pae is using 36bit cpu extention21:31
edbiancool!21:31
* edbian never knew that21:31
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icerootSeveas: what is wrong about the text?21:31
yeehawEdward2: Probably won't work, but when I expiremented with osx86 ports were mixed up often21:31
ironfoot495compitz: the other way is to go to some else and download it or find a smaller screen to take care of that.21:31
icerootSeveas: especially the "virtual memory section"21:31
voan_hi21:31
ironfoot495what size screen do you have?21:32
compitzironfoot495: this is a maze for me, does this mean a reinstall of lucid?21:32
Melissa2012edbian: It came with 4GB ram21:32
icerootSeveas: if your cpu supports amd64 there is no single reason to use 32bit or pae21:32
edbianMelissa2012, yeah, so?  (I know that, you already told me that)21:32
Melissa2012edbian: yeah I hear ya21:32
edbian:)21:32
dankestIs there any way to recover deleted data?21:32
ironfoot495yes because you will just keep going in circles.21:32
icerootdankest: your backup21:32
ironfoot495been there done that.21:32
dankesticeroot: not an option21:33
Seveasiceroot, crappy proprietary 32-bot only software21:33
guntbert!who | ironfoot49521:33
ubottuironfoot495: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)21:33
Melissa2012benbloom: here is my laptop: http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0006-2102681/computers-and-it-equipment/hp-pavilion-dv6-2111tx-15-6-hd-c-i5-520m-4gb-640gb-nvidia-gt230m21:33
icerootdankest: then learn to use backups in the future21:33
dankesticeroot: thanks for the sage advice21:33
icerootdankest: which is a good option21:33
Seveasthat's my reason to have an 8-gb 32-bit box21:33
dankesticeroot: it is21:33
ironfoot495compitz: just calm down and I promise I can help you if you follow my instructions21:33
iceroot!recover | dankest21:33
ubottudankest: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel21:33
Melissa2012will Ubuntu have the proper nvidia-gt230m video drivers?21:33
compitzironfoot495: so you solved your problem by reintalling? this was somethign I wanted to avoid(, please type my name)21:33
dankesticeroot: thanks, I appreciate it21:33
edbian!blank-screen21:34
compitzironfoot495: screen size is 19'21:34
Melissa2012iceroot: 32 bit doesnt support 4GB Ram I was told, only up to 3.221:34
ironfoot495compitz: yes because right now you dont have a screen right so you have to find a way to get back on line than we as a family of ubuntu can help you21:34
icerootMelissa2012: 32bit supports 4gb memory21:34
edbianMelissa2012, that is true (unless you use the PAE kernel in linux)21:34
compitzironfoot495: thats nice of you thx21:34
edbianiceroot, proof please?21:35
Melissa2012benbloom: Mine has Intel Core i5-520M ((Dual Core) 2.40GHz/3MB L3 Cache/2.5GT/s DMI)21:35
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Sidewinder1dankest, I believe there's something like "Testdisk", that might help.21:35
icerootMelissa2012: which includes your vga memory and some other pci-adress-bus-things21:35
voan_guys21:35
Edward2yeehaw: Didn't get anything.21:35
* Cinober is now auto-away after 15m idle21:35
voan_can i ask something ?21:35
icerootedbian: logic is a good proof :)21:35
oCeanCinober: please disable your auto away script21:35
edbianiceroot, show your logic then21:35
dankestSidewinder1: thanks21:35
icerootedbian: 4gm memory != 4g ram21:35
Sidewinder1:D21:35
ironfoot495compitz:  if that is all you have I suggest that you find a way to download ubuntu 10.04 and you will be alright.21:35
guntbertvoan_: if it is ubuntu support related of course21:35
icerootedbian:  which includes your vga memory and some other pci-adress-bus-things21:35
Melissa2012iceroot: I was told that the benefit of using 64bit Ubuntu was that it can use all of my 4GB ram and thart 32bit only uses 3.2Gb ram max.  Are you saying thats not true?21:35
yeehawEdward2: Try running: alsamixer21:36
vouthHa! GNUstep, Wine, Plasma widgets, and Dolphin . . . all inside GNOME! Screenshot as proof: https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B0bE2U3xkWwCZTYzNzQ1NzctZTdlNy00ZGY1LWFjYWQtN2NkMzk0YThlMDNh&hl=en_US21:36
icerootedbian: so 32bit can adress 4gb (easy mathematic logic)21:36
benbloomyes Melissa2012. it's a nice 64bit machine. you get ubuntu64b on that baby, you'll never look back21:36
edbianahhh21:36
yeehawEdward2: Here you can maybe unmute your mic input21:36
edbianbut usually we have 800 Mb of reserved memory for video cards and stuff21:36
compitzironfoot495: i am online using my usual screen, i also have a live cd 10.4, but i dont wanna reinstall21:36
* edbian gets it21:36
mccseveas: your pkg-config line fixed everything, it compiles now. uhh... i'll find out in a minute if it links :)21:36
yeehawif it says MM its muted and with the M-key you can unmute it. Else you might be able to up the volume with the arrow keys21:36
edbianMelissa2012, you cannot support more than 4Gb of memory with 32 bit.  4Gb is the limit21:36
voan_i have old laptop and would like to use as picture frame21:36
Melissa2012<iceroot> Melissa2012: 32bit supports 4gb memory  <--- can someone confirm this please?  because I was told 32bit Ubuntu or 32 bit Windows cannot use the full 4GB ram21:36
icerootMelissa2012: 32bit supports 4gb memory (vga and other things included) amd64 can adress more then 4gb memory (vga and other things included)21:36
guntbertvouth: don't advertise here21:36
icerootMelissa2012: i told you why it is not 4gb21:37
voan_which version of linus should i install on my old laptop !21:37
daysahead5what's the cap on 64 bit?21:37
Melissa2012so if thats the case, then why do I need the 64bit Ubuntu seeing I only have 4GB ram?21:37
icerootMelissa2012: because there is also the vga memory includes and other adress-things21:37
voan_how is about small linux21:37
vouthguntbert: I didn't know that chuckling about my personal Ubuntu hacks was advertising21:37
edbiandaysahead5, theoretical or real practical limit?21:37
icerootMelissa2012: ...21:37
voan_its only 50 mb21:37
daysahead5both :)21:37
ironfoot495I hav'nt use the live cd so Iwon't tell you hat to do there but I got my best results using an .iso21:37
icerootMelissa2012: you have 4gb ram and maybe 512mb vga ram21:37
Melissa2012iceroot: so should I install 64bit Ubuntu or 32bit?21:37
Melissa2012iceroot: nVIDIA GeForce GT 230M (1GB dedicated)21:37
icerootMelissa2012: which means 32bit will adress 3.5gb ram and 512mb vga ram21:37
Edward2yeehaw: All is unmuted. Volume full.21:38
edbiandaysahead5, theory21:38
Guest16486Memory21:38
Guest16486A 32-bit computer has a word size of 32 bits, this limits the memory theoretically to 4GB. This barrier has been extended through the use of 'Physical Address Extension' (or PAE) which increases the limit to 64GB although the memory access above 4GB will be slightly slower. (Ref Ubuntu website)21:38
icerootMelissa2012: you should always install amd64 if the cpu suports it21:38
edbiandaysahead5, theory: 16 exa-bytes21:38
mccok it linked too21:38
guntbertvouth: this channel is for support only - it might be a laugh in #ubuntu-offtopic21:38
Melissa2012iceroot: ok21:38
daysahead5so how do people have 24 gb machines?21:38
voan_@iceroot21:38
icerootdaysahead5: with amd6421:38
AlanBellMelissa2012: both will work fine, if I were you I would go for 64 bit21:38
edbiandaysahead5, with 64 bit arch which supports up to 16 exa-bytes of memory21:38
daysahead5ooh you said exa bytes woah haha21:38
Melissa2012iceroot: but seeing I only have 4GB ram, there will be no gains or benefit for me to install Ubuntu 64bit, over the 32bit Ubuntu, right?21:38
skegeekThe monitor light turning orange after the screen has gone black means the system stopped sending the video output correct?21:38
edbianyeah21:39
edbianthat's a lot21:39
ironfoot495and I've done over and over for a couple of years, when ever something went wrong of course.21:39
yeehawEdward2: hmm.. I'm afraid I do not know then. The rest of you sound does work? You're sure your mic is attached right, on? What application are you using with it? Can you see ith there?21:39
daysahead5that's outrageous21:39
edbianMelissa2012, very little difference, that's right21:39
icerootMelissa2012: again (and the last time) 32bit can adress 4gb memoery (not ram!!!!!!) memory = ram + vga21:39
edbiandaysahead5, but a processor has not been built that allows that much memory yet (ref wikipedia)21:39
Melissa2012AlanBell: but I only have 4GB ram, so installing the 64bit Ubuntu over 32bit apparently wont make a difference21:39
qwebirc45852hello. i am trying to install ubuntu on nokia booklet 3G but it seems that the intel GMA500 is causing problems, as i can't seem to get to the GUI of the installer. Any ideas how to solve this?21:39
Melissa2012iceroot: ok, im confused thats all :)21:39
ironfoot495compitz: ok happy installing.21:40
compitzironfoot495:  please type name so I can see it, but the .iso is the same as cd, i guess? well then as I said, i dont wanna reinstall21:40
vouthguntbert: ahh, ok. I kind of figured this channel was for everything regarding Ubuntu. Maybe I should have looked at the topic first :-P21:40
CarlFKMelissa2012: you have more than 4.21:40
Edward2yeehaw: I just tested with Audacity, got options to choose my input so I can record sound. Just that Skype follows "system defaults" which keeps reverting to Analog Line-In.21:40
edbianMelissa2012, you have 4Gb of ram and some amount of ram on your video card21:40
ironfoot495compitz: ok that better?21:40
Melissa2012CarlFK: nVIDIA GeForce GT 230M (1GB dedicated)21:40
Melissa2012.  Does that mean my video card has 1GB ram?21:40
edbianMelissa2012, so you have >4Gb of memory total.21:40
edbianMelissa2012, yes21:40
Melissa2012k21:40
Melissa2012so i have 5GB ram in total, cool ;-)21:41
edbianMelissa2012, what is the output of free -m   or free -g ?21:41
ChrisJCAnyone able to answer a couple easy question relating to Aircrack-ng in Ubuntu 11.10 with a broadcom wireless card. Not fishing for the answers, just to be pointed in a proper direction. Would be very grateful.21:41
yeehawEdward2: Ok, so it's not a soundcard or driver problem that's clear:P. Doesn't skype have options in the program self where you can select the default, or does that keep reverting too21:41
icerootMelissa2012: that means from the 4gb 32bit can adress 1gb is going to the vga, so your 32bit system can adress 3gb ram21:41
edbianMelissa2012, you have 5Gb of memory (but this is just vocab now)21:41
ironfoot495compitz: sometimes you save more time redoing than sitting there in a daze.21:41
benbloomis there a way to find out my processor's model number on the CLI?21:41
Melissa2012edbian: ive not installed ubuntu yet, I just downloaded the 64bit Ubuntu now.  Installing it later today :)21:41
Guest16486Melissa2012: Don't want to crash this thread but there is some info here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit21:41
icerootbenbloom: cat /proc/cpuinfo21:41
ironfoot495just get the iso and do it ok.21:41
edbianMelissa2012, ahh, what are you waiting for?!?!21:41
Melissa2012edbian: i was chatting lol21:42
Melissa2012:-)21:42
edbianMelissa2012, :)21:42
oCeanbenbloom: try sudo lshw -C cpu21:42
Melissa2012Guest16486: thanks21:42
Melissa2012bbl :)21:42
Edward2yeehaw: Only options are "PulseAudio server (local)", and an info: "It appears your system has PulseAudio running: to change sound settings you need to use your Desktop Manager volume control or PulseAudio volume control."21:43
samsul!ebox21:43
ubottuzentyal is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zentyal (Project formally known as eBox - including in Lucid/10.04).21:43
icerootEdward2: the package "pavucontrol" is nice for that21:43
ironfoot495compitz: got some rat killing to do of my bb.21:44
compitzironfoot, i dont see a way to do that, i got the iso on the cd, though21:44
oilmanbest torrent client with a cute webinterface? (been looking at torrentflux, but I kinda want to avoid mysql)21:44
kcjHow do I stop my system from shutting down when my battery is apparently "critical"?21:44
ironfoot495comp can you see the screen?21:44
guntbert!best | oilman21:44
ubottuoilman: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.21:44
edbiankcj, charge your battery21:44
ironfoot495compitz: can you see the screen?21:44
compitzironfoot495: bb? what screen do you mean?21:44
yeehawEdward2: hmm.. I would try what iceroot said. I've got no clue about PulseAudio really21:45
kcjedbian, The battery is fine.21:45
Edward2iceroot: Downloaded, opening, selecting Port from Analog Line-In to Analog Microphone, it just reset itself to Analog Line-In.21:45
edbiankcj, in the power settings, search for 'power' in the dash21:45
ironfoot495compitz: you said that you could not see the screen? but if you have the iso go ahead and run it.21:45
kcjedbian, I'm using gnome classic.21:45
edbiankcj, I don't remember.  It's in the gui somewhere.  System -> Admin -> power*21:46
compitzironfoot495: but then i will be reinstalling, right?=21:46
benbloomso if I have an AMD Athlon 64 X2 processor. I should be able to put 4x2G ram chips in it?21:46
ironfoot495yes21:46
compitzironfoot495:  no other possibles way here, and to edbian?21:46
edbianbenbloom, yep  (make sure you're running 64 bit OS as well(21:46
ironfoot495compitz: yes that will give you a better chance in getting things going.21:46
DukerI seem unable to prevent my java from going to sleep.  As soon as my minecraft server comes up, java sleeps.  Any way I can fix this?21:46
benbloomsure am edbian21:46
Ethern0thallo21:46
edbiancompitz, follow ironfoot495's advice21:46
kcjedbian, I know where it is. There is no "do nothing" option for when the battery is critical.21:47
edbiankcj, lemme look21:47
compitzedbian ironfoot495 , thats what i wanted to avoid, i think i need to backup stuff first, can I avoid at alll, a reinstall?21:47
ironfoot495compitz: bb:21:47
edbiankcj, mmm,  apparently not.  I'm not sure.  I could start googling21:47
oilmanubottu: ait. :) thanks for the help anyhow21:48
ubottuoilman: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:48
edbiancompitz, boot, press shift during boot, launch recovery mode, purge nouveau and install nvidia-9621:48
compitzironfoot495: what doues "bb" mean?21:48
edbiancompitz, then you should be back where you started21:48
guntbertkcj: if the battery reports "critical" then you should look into the cause21:48
ironfoot495compitz: I'll be back!21:49
benbloomsorry to go on with this edbian, but i are there no other HW considerations that could limit my max21:49
skegeekrepost: The monitor light turning orange after the screen has gone black means the system stopped sending the video output correct?21:49
edbianbenbloom, none21:49
benbloomhttp://www.chiplist.com/AMD_Athlon_64_X2_Dual_Core_processor_Windsor_2MB_Rev_F/tree3f-subsection--2228-/ makes me think otherwise21:49
hwithi. I installed git-core from https://launchpad.net/~git-core/+archive/ppa and I want to use gitosis with it. When I try to install gitosis via apt I get a broken package error. Is there a gitosis PPA that works with the current git-core? I'm on 10.04.3 LTS.21:49
edbianbenbloom, you're talking about what?  8Gb of ram?  That's not an issue, my friend has 24Gb21:49
kcjguntbert, If the battery was actually critical the battery light would be flashing.21:49
benbloomsorry. that was all supposed to be one line. thanks again edbian21:50
edbianBen64, reading your link21:50
compitzedbian, well i started there two days before yesterday, yes, a recovery-mode would be great, but how can I use it??21:50
compitzironfoot495: thx21:50
edbiancompitz, press shift during  boot (before you see anything 'ubuntu' related)21:50
compitzedbian, do you mean on the bios screen?21:50
benbloomedbian: it was under Architecture: 128 bit (dual-channel), 200/400/800 MHz, DDR2-800 memory controller: max. 8 x 512 Mbyte = 4 Gbyte (4 x 1 Gbyte double-sided PC2-6400 memory module).21:50
edbianBen64, mmm, I see that now21:51
guntbertkcj: ack, but it still seems to report that status - it might be a dirty contact....21:51
edbianbenbloom, I see that now21:51
ChrisJCAnyone able to answer a couple easy question relating to Aircrack-ng in Ubuntu 11.10 with a broadcom wireless card. Not fishing for the answers, just to be pointed in a proper direction. Would be very grateful.21:51
edbiancompitz, shortly after bios21:51
ironfoot495compitz: I can see a response to me even when I'm some where else so just do what you got to do I will monitor ok.21:51
kcjguntbert, The hardware is fine.21:51
edbiancompitz, _not_ the bios but right after it21:51
edbianbenbloom, curious, I'm not sure why they put that or what the point of a 64 bit processor is if it can't address more than 4Gb21:52
ironfoot495compitz:  a lot of good people have helped me a long the way so I'm glad to be able to give back.21:52
scarper_#jaquerespeis21:52
scarper_sorry21:52
edbianbenbloom, perhaps they made a mistake on the site and those stats are for a different 32 bit proc21:52
benbloomi know right?21:52
edbianbenbloom, My advice is to try the 64 bit Ubuntu with all your ram21:52
compitzedbian, right after bios, it will ask me for my luks-pass so if i press a botton itll be a part of my luks pass21:52
edbianbenbloom, If you haven't bought the proc / ram contact the company and have them clairfy21:53
guntbertkcj: I hear you - but you might still want to look for the reason :)21:53
edbiancla-fairy21:53
edbiancompitz, what is luks-pass ?21:53
benbloomthanks for the time. I've had strange problems with RAM in this pc before21:53
kcjguntbert, :/21:53
edbianbenbloom, sure! :)21:53
pooltablehow to run android on linux???21:53
compitzedbian, im running an encrypted system, well usually, when not on live-cd21:53
theadminpooltable: lolwut. Not possible, Android is a separate operating system.21:53
pooltablewhat about a VM?21:54
compitzedbian luks pass is the password for mounting system-hd21:54
kcjguntbert, I just want it to stop forcing a shut down if the battery is apparently critical.21:54
theadminpooltable: That might be, search for Android ports to PCs and run those in a VM.21:54
pavel_GShello!21:55
Edward2iceroot: When selecting Port from Analog Line-In to Analog Microphone in pavucontrol, it just reset itself to Analog Line-In.21:55
fogdarthi there21:55
pooltablethanks theadmin21:55
edbiancompitz, right after the luks pass then21:55
pavel_GSI'm having trouble with my laptop webcam who doesn't seems willing to work21:55
fogdartanyone knows how to disable .trash folder creation in ubuntu ?21:55
pavel_GS*seem21:55
edbiancompitz, press shift like a mad-man all over the place, trying different times until you get the grub menu21:55
guntbertkcj: understandable, as a dirty hack you could try to unload the acpi-module??21:56
DukerI am being denied perimssion to increase the priority of a process as admin, is there a better way to prevent a process from ever going to sleep?21:56
kcjheh21:56
DukerI seem unable to prevent my java from sleeping while its running21:56
skegeekI don't suppose anyone is using a Toshiba Satellite laptop??21:56
compitzedbian, then all I see is terminal,that tells me its unlocking the hd but icant type, 2 seconds later blck screen (shut off)21:56
guntbertcompitz: use the left <shift>21:56
yeehawedbian: Hehe, I always do that while accessing bios or grub or verbose or something :p21:56
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FloodBot1ZuruZ: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.21:56
compitzguntbert, never tried the right shift21:56
edbiancompitz, go crazy with shift at all different times21:57
compitzedbian, well the before or after pass?21:57
fogdarthi there - ill repeat my question - how to disable the recyclebin/trashcan -folder creation in ubuntu ?21:57
compitzedbian, well theN* before or after pass?21:57
edbiancompitz, try both!21:57
edbiancom641, but I think after21:58
pavel_GSdoes anyone knows how to fix my samsung n210 cam?21:58
edbiancompitz, but I think after.  Also I have to go now21:58
DukerAny way to stop a process from sleeping?21:58
kcjguntbert, I want a permanent solution.21:58
pavel_GSwhen I test it, it looks like in movies: white bar, yellow bar, cyan bar, green bar...21:58
compitzedbian, i think all that does is switching from picture to text, i cant type then21:58
guntbertkcj: I guess, but if that dirty hack works you can (temporarily) blacklist that module...21:59
RHExcelionI'm getting the strangest error21:59
kcjguntbert, Can I restart with noacpi?22:00
RHExceliontzdata is failing to configure due to something about the date being invalid22:00
guntbertkcj: of course you can  --  I don't know if it will help - sorry22:01
pavel_GSwell...22:01
compitzhow do I launch ubuntu (lucid) in recovery mode???????????????????????22:02
mucahithello is there anyone who can install ubuntu on macbook pro 8,1?22:03
guntbertcompitz: from the grub menu :-)22:03
RHExcelionDoes anyone have any ideas?22:03
compitzguntbert, which I get by pressing shift "like madman all over the place"?22:04
zimbreshi, would someone give some advices on how to install a driver for canon printer, and where to find them?22:04
RHExceliondate: invalid date 'Fri Dec 30 22:03:43 UTC 2011'22:04
trixihey!22:04
wrecksdarthowdy22:04
guntbertcompitz: essentially yes, although preesing <shift> after the boot beep until the grub menu appears should suffice22:05
compitzRHExcellion, have you run an update lately, i think ther was one22:05
benbloomrunning kde with 2 monitors on a dual head card. often, when i drag a window from my right monitor into my left, it maximizes horizontally. where might i find this rule to disable it?22:05
RHExcelionUh... what update?22:05
mucahitis there any solution to "(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" problem in macbook pro 8,1?22:06
RHExcelionThis is a custom jaunty installation running on armel22:06
jaequeryhey guys, how can i tell what type of HD i'm running? basically i want to verify if the server i'm on indeed is an SSD22:06
compitzguntbert: thanks, but I think about my luks-passphrase  screen that shows up 7 seconds after the BEEP22:06
auronandace!jaunty | RHExcelion22:06
ubottuRHExcelion: Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) was the tenth release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: October 23, 2010. See !eol and !upgrade for more details.22:06
RHExcelionI know22:06
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RHExcelionI can't upgrade it22:07
troulouliou_devhi as soon as i install proproetary driver on dell M1530 , nvidia 8M , gnome-shell and unity-3D fails to load , however gkxinfo report no rpoblem and nvidia drivers are used , any idea ?22:07
trixiterrible situation here. I have ubuntu 11.04 on usb and all of the sudden it gave me an error, that there are no sudoers files!!! What da?! Anyway, I've done some reading and it came out, that after upgrading kernel, this might happen.. Come on! So now, I fired up a live cd of old ubuntu, pluged in the 11from usb, and I'm looking a way of getting to the files I have on that system on usb. Any ideas how?22:07
auronandaceRHExcelion: and we can't support it22:07
compitzRHExcelion: what distro are you using?22:07
RHExcelionMaybe you can't, but I'm sure there's someone out of the random 1431 other people on here who can help me22:07
wrecksdartAnyone know why apache2 won't follow symlinks even though I've got it set in httpd.conf? (wordpress refuses to save a file in the remote folder)22:08
glebihanRHExcelion, no because it is not supported here22:08
guntbertcompitz: did you encrypt the whole installation?22:08
wrecksdarton Ubuntu 11.1022:08
compitzRHExcelion: well then. happy new year22:08
compitzguntbert, yes I did22:08
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guntbertcompitz: sorry, I have no experience with that22:09
compitzguntbert, well thx, GRUB menu doesnt show up no matter what I press, but it would be logical, if shows up after I enter my pass wouldnt it?22:10
glebihanwrecksdart, did you check permissions ?22:10
trixiso, anyone? please help.22:11
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guntbertcompitz: probably22:11
wrecksdartgleb: oy vey--I feel like I've been through the permissions ringer22:11
wrecksdartIt's a default install of WP, but I'm trying to locate the uploads folder to another disk22:11
wrecksdartwww-data has perms over the whole thing22:11
compitzguntbert, if i got to this GRUB menu I nver see, can I intall the driver then, so its permanent, therorhtically?22:12
glebihanwrecksdart, anything in apache's log file ?22:12
wrecksdartgleb: I'll check...22:12
guntbertcompitz: I have lost track of your real issue - sorry22:13
pooltablejust went to 11.10 with xfce inter face22:13
compitzguntbert, black screen after nvdia driver removal on startup22:13
compitzfdyb22:15
compitzsorry..22:15
guntbertcompitz: my last nvidia system is gone, I fixed several issues after removal via the recovery system - why can't you enter the luks-password and get to the grub-menu?22:16
compitzguntbert: well if a pressed a bottom it would switch from loading picture to text version, no way to type there, seconds later black screen22:17
triximy ubuntu installed on usb crashed. Can I get my files back from it?22:17
Jordan_Ucompitz: What happens currently when you boot the computer while holding shift?22:17
compitzguntbert, well maybe this is a keyboard issue, im thinking now, i use german dead grave acute...22:17
wrecksdartgleb: not really.  WP's web interface is the most verbose, telling me I can't create the directory as asking if the parent dir is writeable22:18
ChrisJCAnyone able to answer a couple easy question relating to Aircrack-ng in Ubuntu 11.10 with a broadcom wireless card. Not fishing for the answers, just to be pointed in a proper direction. Would be very grateful.22:18
guntbertcompitz: in that case use a live CD22:18
compitzJordan_U: it would switch from loading picture to text version, no way to type there, seconds later black screen22:18
Jordan_Ucompitz: What do you mean by "loading picture"?22:18
trixiChrisJC ask.22:19
wrecksdartother than that, the error logs are clean (mod_deflate.c registers the compression of the image file, but that's about it)22:19
compitzJordan_U:  ubuntu, and 5 or six blinking balls under it22:19
Jordan_Ucompitz: Are you sure that your keyboard works at all?22:19
DukerAny reason why a process that i dont want to sleep insists on sleeping?22:20
owenllChrisJC: #aircrack-ng22:20
DukerAnd why I cant change a process' priority in sys monitor22:20
compitzguntbert, pressing shift in live cd will be able to load grub menu, so i can boot the recovery mode from my encryted hd? that would be nice then...22:20
glebihanwrecksdart, really sounds like permissions issues. Could you paste the exact message that WP gives you ?22:21
compitzJordan_U:  as you can see Im typing .-)22:21
trixiChrisJC when it comes to broadcome cards, they usually work fine, but don't support the injection mode.22:21
Jordan_Ucompitz: You're currently working from the same machine?22:21
compitzJordan_U: would that change something?22:21
guntbertcompitz: no, but you would be able to edit grub settings,...22:22
Edward2Ok, how about another approach. What file does the Sound Settings save to in Ubuntu 11.10? Hoping to change the Connector from there.22:22
wrecksdartglebihan: Sorry for the error dump: Item_0001.jpg” has failed to upload due to an error22:22
wrecksdartUnable to create directory /var/www/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/12. Is its parent directory writable by the server?22:22
compitzguntbert , so what am I editing then, exactly?22:23
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wrecksdartglebihan: the "uploads" dir is the symlink over to the other disk22:23
compitzJordan_U:  yes I am working there22:23
glebihanwrecksdart, and the 2011 folder already exists ?22:23
wrecksdartglebihan: It does22:23
hwithi. is there a good guide on how to upgrade server 10.04 LTS to the current (non LTS) version?22:24
Jordan_Ucompitz: Unless you've changed your grub settings, grub's menu should show if shift is being held when grub loads. If that's not happening then grub isn't being told by the BIOS that the shift key is pressed. That could either happen because your keyboard isn't working (which is not the case) or your BIOS doesn't support your keyboard (so the follow up question is can you use your keyboard in BIOS menus before grub loads)?22:24
wrecksdartglebihan: I suppose I could delete it and  see if the server will create it on it's own22:24
trixiguys, I'm sorry about repeating myself, but I'm running out of time.22:24
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glebihanwrecksdart, could try, though I don't think it would help22:24
Jordan_U!upgrade | hwit22:24
ubottuhwit: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade22:24
trixiIs there any way, to get ny files back from the system installed on usb?22:24
trixiplease help!22:25
compitzJordan_U: , yes i can enter the bios menu and edit stuff there, for example22:25
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guntbertcompitz: you *can* edit everything from the live CD (you will need to mount your HD and then maybe to chroot.....) but thats today beyond my ability ...22:25
Jordan_Utrixi: Most likely, yes. You should be able to just boot from another LiveUSB/CD, mount the USB, and access your files. Though if you've been using "persistance" I don't know off hand how to mount that properly via aufs.22:25
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compitzguntbert:  what would you edit22:26
CCReggioCalazz22:26
compitzguntbert: in the grub settings?22:26
trixiJordan_U via aufs? yes, it's been persistant.22:26
hwitJordan_U: thanks22:26
Jordan_Ucompitz: And you've been holding shift from the moment you turn on the computer (you can even start holding shift before you turn the computer on, if your BIOS doesn't complain about a "stuck key" like they did in decades past).22:26
Jordan_U?22:26
owenllm22:27
guntbertcompitz: please stay with Jordan_U , he will help better22:27
wrecksdartglebihan: the symlinked directory has 755 perms (www-data as owner) as does the folder structure under it22:27
compitzJordan_U:  ill try that, does GRUB menu load then and i can start the recovery mode?22:27
glebihanwrecksdart, in the settings, you have a "Store uploads in this folder" option under "miscellaneous". What's the value of that setting ?22:27
compitzguntbert , your help has been highly appreciated thx.22:28
guntbertcompitz: Good luck :-)22:28
Kitenperiodically my sound will stop working and i'll have to switch to a tty and back to tty7 to get my sound back, anyone have any idea whats going on ?22:28
Jordan_Ucompitz: Correct. And remember that you need to hold shift. If anyone told you that you're supposed to press and release it repeatedly they were mistaken.22:28
compitzguntbert: THX22:28
wrecksdartglebihan: it's blank22:28
compitzJordan_U:  thanks, will you be on lateron?22:29
glebihanwrecksdart, try setting it to wp-content/uploads/22:29
trixiJordan_U via aufs? yes, it's been persistant. what about fdisk?22:29
Jordan_Ucompitz: I don't know.22:30
compitzJordan_U:  well then thx for helping and a happy and healthy next year to you22:30
Jordan_Ucompitz: You're welcome, and same to you :)22:31
compitzJordan_U: thx22:31
wrecksdartglebihan: Nope22:32
wrecksdartglebihan: but if I get rid of the symlink so it's pointing to the wp-content/uploads folder on the local disk, it works fine22:33
trixiJordan_U aufs?22:33
glebihanwrecksdart, are the permissions on /var/www/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/ the same as on /var/www/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/22:33
glebihan?22:33
reeskhow do i remove lamp from ubuntu22:34
munzxttthi! ... is it possible to update the 'ubuntu software center'  in 10.04 ?!22:34
Jordan_Utrixi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_mount22:34
wrecksdartglebihan: in this case, no.  wp-content/uploads is the symlink, and has 0777, where wp-content/uploads/2011 is the remote dir with 075522:35
trixiJordan_U so fdisk won't do?22:36
munzxttthi! ... is it possible to update the 'ubuntu software center'  in 10.04 ?!22:36
glebihanwrecksdart, and both are owned by www-data ?22:36
Enricodemedicican I start Ubuntu Live on a macbook?22:36
Kitenmuzxttt you can refresh the cache from terminal, sudo apt-get update (this refreshes the cache22:37
Kiten)22:37
Jordan_Utrixi: A "persistant" Ubuntu root is the union of a read only filesystem (the squashfs found in the LiveCD), and a read-write filesystem (the ext4 "casper-rw" partition). You may be able to access all the files you've added by just mounting the casper-rw filesystem without making a union between it and the squashfs but I'm not sure.22:37
Enricodemedicifrom usb stick?22:37
wrecksdartglebihan: they both are owned by www-data22:37
Jordan_UEnricodemedici: Yes, but it's difficult. If possilbe, it's recommended to use an actual CD, specifically one burned from the -mac iso.22:38
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wrecksdartglebihan: I've crowned the /var/www/wordpress dir recursively, in addition to the remote folder22:38
munzxtttKiten : i am new to linux and i do run 11.04 in my laptop and just installed 10.04 and did not like how it looks actually i could not get the apps i wanted !!! so can i update it?!22:38
Enricodemedici@jordan ok! thx22:38
wrecksdartglebihan: *chowned22:38
Jordan_UEnricodemedici: You're welcome.22:38
munzxtttKiten : i am new to linux and i do run 11.04 in my laptop and just installed 10.04 on my home pc and did not like how it looks actually i could not get the apps i wanted !!! so can i update it?! :22:39
Kitenmunzxttt, you don't need to double post22:39
Kitenmunzxttt, so you want to update 10.04 to 11.04 ?22:39
karl-augusttjust explain me a fact , I installed a linux in OEM mode , and when I restart for the first time,  it just start again linux installation in normal mode, do someone have  an idea about that?22:39
munzxtttKiten : sorry :022:40
munzxtttKiten : no! i just want to update the 'software center'!!!! is it possible?!22:40
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aBoundmunzxttt, I don't think you can update the software center.22:40
Kitenuh well yes and no, you could change the repository that you use22:40
Jordan_Utrixi: The first thing I would do would be to run "sudo blkid" (which gives more useful and easier to read information that "sudo fdisk -l"), figure out what device is the "casper-rw" partition is, then try mounting it. If I understand how aufs works, it should contain all of the files that you've added or changed while using the LiveUSB, and nothing else.22:40
Kitenbut this isn't really supported and can break your installation22:41
karl-augusttjust explain me a fact , I installed a linux in OEM mode , and when I restart for the first time,  it just start again linux installation in normal mode, do someone have  an idea about that?22:41
karl-augusttjust explain me a fact , I installed a linux in OEM mode , and when I restart for the first time,  it just start again linux installation in normal mode, do someone have  an idea about that?22:41
glebihanwrecksdart, well I'm a bit out of ideas, I just ran a test here and symlinks don't seem to be an issue with apache itself, so it may be a WP bug if the permissions are correct22:41
Resistance!repeat | karl-augustt22:41
ubottukarl-augustt: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/22:41
munzxtttKiten : mmm ... i just want to get other users feedback and the ratings !22:41
Kiten???22:41
Kitenyou want to get feedback from particular installs ?22:42
Kiten* err packages22:42
wrecksdartglebihan: thanks for checking it out--I've had similar issues with gallery3 and I couldn't seem to sort that out, either.  httpd.conf has +FollowSymLinks as it's only option, so I'm pretty much lost, too22:42
trixiJordan_U here's what I did: made dir casper in /mnt/ and tryed to mounte it. It said casper is not a block dev. try -o loop. Yes I tried that and it worked!22:42
Jordan_Ukarl-augustt: That's what's supposed to happen as far as I know. Though I've never done an OEM install I would expect that it would need to ask the user about things like what username and password they want to use on first boot.22:42
trixiI mean, so far, so good....22:42
Kiteni've not had a chance to look 11.04 over so i'm not sure what you guy's software center looks like22:43
munzxtttKiten : yes along with the ratings which is not supported in the older version of the 'software center'22:43
trixiJordan_U, thank you for your help!22:43
Jordan_Utrixi: I don't understand what you actually did. Please pastebin the exact commands you ran and thier output.22:43
Jordan_Utrixi: You're welcome.22:43
glebihanwrecksdart, did you try to make a simple php script that would just create that folder in order to test if you get an error also ?22:43
Kitenahh well updating the software center isn't actually supported in other words you'd be better off updating to 11.0422:44
zthmy flash lags and chops alot in fullscreen-mode in firefox. i'm using ubuntu 11.04 with propertairy ATI-drivers installed and proper gpu-acceleration. anyone got a clue?22:44
munzxtttKiten : thanks for your help ... :)22:44
munzxtttKiten : bye22:44
Kiteni mean its possible to do so but i have no idea what all is necessary to update it nor if the packages are packages a certain way22:44
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wrecksdartglebihan: no clue how to do that, unfortunately--what command would I use?  <?php blah <php>22:44
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trixiJordan_U, there you go: mkdir /mnt/casper22:45
trixiroot@ubuntu:/# mount /mnt/here/casper-rw /mnt/casper/22:45
triximount: /mnt/here/casper-rw is not a block device (maybe try `-o loop'?)22:45
trixiroot@ubuntu:/# mount -o loop  /mnt/here/casper-rw /mnt/casper/22:45
trixiroot@ubuntu:/# cd /mnt/casper/22:45
trixiroot@ubuntu:/mnt/casper# ls22:45
FloodBot1trixi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.22:45
trixibin   cdrom  home  lost+found  rofs  sbin  usr22:45
Resistance!pastebin | trixi22:45
ubottutrixi: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.22:45
glebihanwrecksdart, <?php mkdir("/var/www/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/12");?>22:45
Kitentrixi use pastie22:45
Kiten* pastie.org22:45
Kitenor pastebin.com or paste.ubuntu.com22:45
glebihanwrecksdart, save that in a test.php file at the root of your WP install and access that page to see if the folder gets created (and if it doesn't, this time you should have more infos in apache's logs)22:46
wrecksdartglebihan: great!  I'll try it...22:46
karl-augusttjust explain me a fact , I installed a linux in OEM mode , and when I restart for the first time,  it just start again linux installation in normal mode, do someone have  an idea about that?22:47
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wrecksdartglebihan: mkdir(): Permission denied in /var/www/wordpress/test.php on line 122:48
nythrowHello guys. Could anyone advise me; what DE should I install for a person who has no idea about Linux?22:49
wrecksdartglebihan: php says perms?!?22:49
icerootnythrow: any you want22:49
Kitennythrow, uhh why not use ubuntu's default gnome ?22:49
Jordan_Ukarl-augustt: Did you see my message? What does the rest of the install process entail? I'm guessing that it's mostly asking the user's Timezone, username, password etc which can't be entered by the OEM.22:49
glebihanwrecksdart, so it's definitely a permission issue22:49
icerootglebihan: does www-data have write-access?22:49
nythrowBut wouldn't GNOME3 too difficult?22:50
wrecksdarticeroot: it should, yes22:50
Kitennythrow, no22:50
icerootwrecksdart: and also the symlink?22:50
glebihaniceroot, it should but apparently doesn't22:50
icerootglebihan: then give write-permissions to it with chown22:50
Kitennythrow, gnome3 should be very very easy to navigate22:50
wrecksdarticeroot: lrwxrwxrwx 1 www-data www-data   46 2011-12-29 22:48 uploads -> blah22:51
glebihanwrecksdart, does www-data have read and execute permissions on all folders above 2011/12 on the target drive ?22:51
Edward2nythrow: Try xubuntu. But doesn't really matter. It anyways needs alot of configuring to make it as "user friendly" as possible. :p22:51
icerootnythrow: there is no DE which needs specific linux-know-how22:51
nythrowI will try gnome3.22:51
Kitennythrow, what are you needing ? are you wanting to make applications ?22:51
icerootwrecksdart: and what is the permission on blah?22:51
wrecksdartglebihan: not all folders.  I've got dir structure of /media/haus1/website_assets/wordpress_uploads22:51
wrecksdartglebihan: www-data owns from website_assets down22:52
glebihanwrecksdart, /media ? is that a USB drive ? if so, which partition type is it ?22:52
wrecksdartext422:52
nythrowKiten: I mean. It is a person who needs printing, browsing web etc. No special prefers.22:52
Kitengnome322:52
wrecksdartglebihan: fstab's entry is set to defaults 0 022:53
Kitenif they are coming from windows KDE would be pretty similar to it22:53
wrecksdartglebihan: maybe that's an issue?22:53
Kitennythrow, kubuntu uses kde its pretty similar visually to windows, but if they are ok with something new gnome3 is pretty easy to navigate22:53
glebihanwrecksdart, I don't think so, let me try something22:53
Jordan_U!pm | karl-augustt22:53
ubottukarl-augustt: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.22:53
Kitennythrow, i feel obligated to tell you that you can install other DE's without having to reinstall ubuntu22:54
nythrowKiten: KDE4 is too heavy.22:55
zthmy flash lags and chops alot in fullscreen-mode in firefox. i'm using ubuntu 11.04 with propertairy ATI-drivers installed and proper gpu-acceleration. anyone got a clue? anyone?22:55
Kitenso you need a lightweight DE/wm22:55
Kiten?22:55
nythrowKiten: I'm not Ubuntu user, c'mon. I'm arch user.22:55
Kitenoh then22:55
Kiteneff gnome322:55
nythrowBut I don't know what's easy too new Linux users. :P22:55
Kitenoh nvm then22:55
nythrow*to;22:55
slbmehzth: what flash?22:55
icerootnythrow: try unity which is the default in ubuntu22:55
zthslbmeh, adobe beta, latest through flashaid plugin22:56
Dougywut'22:56
Jordan_Unythrow: Ubuntu is designed to be easy to use for beginners. Just stick to the defaults and you should be about as good as you can get.22:56
Kitennythrow, xfce is lightweight and similar to gnome22:56
glebihanwrecksdart, I think www-data needs to have read and execute permissions on all folders above 2011/12 on the target drive (just ran a test here, and it seems to fail if that is not the case)22:56
skegeekI'd like help troubleshooting freezing please. I reinstalled (11.10->10.04) without resolve, prior to that I tried removing gnome-screensaver and xscreensaver as I tried xubuntu-desktop to fix as well as disabling compiz for 11.10. The freezes happen after being idle either: after the screen goes black and monitor power light turns orange, within 5 minutes after entering password upon returning, and sometimes randomly when I haven22:56
skegeek't been afk at all.22:56
wrecksdartglebihan: so you're saying I have to give www-data rw perms from /media all the way down (/media/haus1/website_assets/wordpress_uploads)?22:58
karl-augusttjordan_U: do you receive to my msg? I read and understand yours22:58
karl-augusttjordan_U: do you receive  my msg? I read and understand yours22:58
glebihanwrecksdart, not rw but rx22:58
Kitenskegeek, if you are familiar with terminal would you mind posting your syslog ?22:59
Kiten* pastie.org your syslog23:00
Jordan_Ukarl-augustt: I did. Do you still have a question?23:00
Kitenplease to post :(23:00
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wrecksdartglebihan: hmm…everything (else) on that remote drive is owned by my username--should I add myself to the www-data group to fix that?23:00
reeskwhy dosent ubuntu properley remove programs i just uninstalled apache and it left all its files behind which is meaning the next install is using those bad files23:00
Kiten*please don't post xchat is freaking on me23:00
skegeekI noticed with 11.10 that it didn't appear to happen if I had htop running in a terminal. I also had noticed twice with a disc in the CD/DVD drive, I could hear it was trying to interact with the disc, but the system appeared otherwise frozen with a black screen.23:00
glebihanwrecksdart, rather the opposite (add www-data to your user's group)23:00
Oerreesk, use the --purge option to remove any config.23:01
wrecksdartglebihan: mkay--one sec…and thanks for the help!23:01
reeskOer: sytax please23:01
crazymarinehi, i have an error trying to install 10.04 32bit and i get an error with it not able to mount /dev/loop0 to //filesystem.squashfs with input/output error23:01
glebihanwrecksdart, you're welcome, hope that works23:01
Edward2I'm having problems with the Sound Settings. Every time I set the Input Connector to Analog Microphone, it resets itself to Analog Line-In. Why does it do this and is there a conf file I can edit to force it to stay the other way?23:01
skegeekIs there a command line to send a cat of syslog to a pastebin?23:02
Kitenskegeek, your monitor might not be working correctly23:02
Jordan_Ucrazymarine: That sounds like a problem with the CD/USB you were trying to install from. Did you check that the iso downloaded and burned correctly?23:02
Kitenskegeek, no DE ?23:02
crazymarineyes, ran the disk check tool and verified with mutliple burns23:02
Jordan_Uskegeek: pastebinit /var/log/syslog23:02
skegeekWell, I did see an error during boot regarding EDID invalid or not found or something.23:02
Oerreesk, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto#Removal_commands23:02
coleixguys how do install this kinda file? "install-clockworkmod-linux.sh"23:02
Kitencoleix, uh first where did you get it ?23:03
reeskOer: ive done that but nano is still managing to open the conf files23:03
coleixKiten: http://android.modaco.com/topic/335479-29-jun-4005-clockworkmod-recovery-for-the-lg-optimus-2x/23:03
skegeekDoesn't appear to allow post expiration23:03
reeskOer: and the folder is still there23:04
Oerreesk config files will be removed with purge, so i don't know your problem.23:04
Kiteni've not used it but ./install-clockworkmod-linux.sh # BUT FOR YOUR SAFETY make sure you trust what your installing23:04
reeskOer:  ive purged apache2 and its still leaving the files and folders belonging to it23:05
coleixKiten: thanks man23:05
Oerreesk, did you reboot after that? apache is a service, not just a prog23:05
Kitensome users like to prank or be complete douche's and ruin a users installation23:05
Kitencoleix, np hopefully its safe23:06
reeskOer: not yet will ry that now23:06
skegeekThe whole syslog??23:06
Jordan_Ucrazymarine: Does the CD boot on another machine?23:06
Kitenskegeek, just the latter half23:06
crazymarineyes on 3 other machines23:06
NeonBeaconkok23:06
spacebug-when opening 'home folder' it does not get focus when other programs are started. Why is that? Both 11.10 and 12.04 dev23:06
NeonBeaconOops23:06
NeonBeaconSorry23:06
Kitenor if you know when it exactly happened post the hour before, hour of and hour after of it23:07
Jordan_Ucrazymarine: Did you try running the boot time integrity check? That will also check that there isn't a problem with the CDROM drive in that particular machine.23:07
crazymarineyes it comes back with no errors23:07
Jordan_Ucrazymarine: Very odd.23:07
Anamika_guys i need help, live session23:08
Anamika_cd23:08
DDeverydayIs there any other way to make a bootable usb drive besides the prefered way on UBuntu website??? That didn't work for me.23:08
Anamika_ubuntu23:08
Jordan_UDDeveryday: In what way did it "not work"?23:08
Ben64I realize 12.04 support is in #ubuntu+1, but nobody is there... I'm getting slow wifi speed on 12.04, about 150K/s throughput. On 10.04 I was getting closer to 1.5MB/s23:08
reeskOer: just rebooted and the file is still there23:08
shareei. I stopped GDM then I logged in in TTY1 ... and now everytime I logout from tty1 GDM stops.23:08
Jordan_UBen64: This channel doesn't support development releases. Period.23:08
guest_I have a cvs repo setup and a few projects are in it. I want to delete one of the projects from the repository. Is their a proper way of deleting these or can I just go to my repo location under /var/lib/cvs and delete the project? Or is their some config files from cvsroot that need to be modified, i,e do I need to do it with a cvs command ?23:09
sharehow to get gdm working without being logged in tty123:09
share?23:09
Ben64Jordan_U: yeah i started with that23:09
skegeekHere is the syslog: http://pastebin.com/BDBnVweY23:09
DDeverydayJordan_U, when i tried to boot into the usb drive, it shows "No Operating System found", and on another computer it shows a flashing "_"23:09
Anamika_well, ddeveryday try netbooting23:09
share:|23:10
Jordan_UBen64: That you weren't able to get help in #ubuntu+1 does not change the fact that this channel *does not support development versions of Ubuntu*. Period.23:10
Ben64ok then, pretend i have 11.1023:10
DDeverydayJordan_U, I have redownloaded ubuntu from different sources and tried different version the bootable usb drive maker. No luck23:10
shareI want to log out from tty1 without stopping GDM. the problem is that I started GDM in tty123:10
chachanshare: that happens even if you restart?23:10
sharechachan: I dont want to restart :P23:10
sharebut no it doesnt23:10
reeskOer: its being wierd apt says that its not installed yet the server still runs and apacche folder and files is still there23:10
Jordan_UBen64: It doesn't work that way. Please stop.23:10
chachanshare: how did you start it?23:10
sharechachan: sudo service gdm start23:11
Ben64Jordan_U: not very helpful23:11
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skegeekOut of curiosity, does syslog contain any identifiable info?23:11
Oerreesk, when uninstalling apache, did you stop the service ? sudo service apache2 stop23:11
Resistanceis there any way to manually map a sector on a drive as bad?23:11
histo!wireless | Ben6423:11
ubottuBen64: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs23:11
Kitenskegeek, sortof but i won't use it23:11
Resistance(there's errors being spit into ctrl+alt+f1 about a sector I/O issue23:11
chachanshare: it shouldn't be attached to tty23:11
wrecksdartglebihan: Doesn't appear to have worked, but I might have messed up adding www-data.  Gotta run, but I'll be working on the perms angle--thanks agian23:11
cake_hello23:11
histoBen64: I would try a different driver and see if the problem persists23:11
Kitenskegeek, can you give me a date of when it last occurred ?23:11
Ben64histo: i'll check it out, thanks23:12
cake_hello?23:12
sharechachan: i was doing it wrong. lol.23:12
cake_first time on irc is it working?23:12
skegeekAround 12:30p I believe (about 2-1/2 hours ago).23:12
Jordan_Ucake_: Yes. Welcome to #ubuntu :)23:13
chachanshare: stop it and check what process keep alive with: lsof | grep _your_username_23:13
DDeverydayAnamika_, thanks! I hope it works.23:13
sharechachan: I wasnt hitting ctrl+alt+f8.23:13
sstais there any easy tool to convert quoted-printable text to the original text that can be run from a script? (ie not GUI)23:13
reeskOer: no23:13
sharechachan: it's solved now:P23:13
coleixKiten: it says i have to run chmod +x install-clockworkmod-linux.sh first, but should i change anything?23:13
chachanshare: cool23:13
sharechachan: restarted X normally, then tty1 and exit, then ctl+alt+f8 to go back to login window23:14
Kitencoleix, well first make sure you trust it23:14
cake_is there a channle somewhere just about irc, i dont want to bogg down #ubuntu23:14
Kitenif you decide you trust it then sudo chmod +x install-clockworkmod-linux.sh23:14
coleixKiten: I found it on a guide and it seems safe enought23:14
sstaah, qprint23:15
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Kitenskegeek, for like 30 minutes after 12:38 your syslog reported nothing23:15
Kitenuhh do you have any non repository software installed ?23:15
coleixKiten: ahh ok thanks, should i sudo ./intall-clockworkmod-linux.sh too?23:16
skegeekThat sounds strange.23:16
Kitenprobably if it needs it23:16
Kitenskegeek, yeah that is odd23:16
Kitenand it had nothing before 12:38 until 04:38 in the morn23:17
skegeekbrb23:17
Kitendid you shut off or was it running ? because if it was running you got some issues23:17
monstaRtruckhow come my aperance prefs are missing font tab23:17
dr_willismonstaRtruck:  i think you need to use the gnome-tweak tool to set fonts. There might be other ways23:19
monstaRtrucky do they keep changing shit aroun23:19
monstaRtruckso annoying23:19
CoreymonstaRtruck: Language please.23:19
dr_willisits now gnome-3 and not gnome2 is why monstaRtruck ...23:20
monstaRtrucko23:20
garthounetbonsoir23:20
garthounetpour une erreur de compil je dois poster ou?23:20
crazymarinejust burned another disk and still same error23:20
dr_willisradically differnt themeing setup and otehr major changes23:20
Corey!fr | garthounet23:20
ubottugarthounet: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.23:20
garthounetsorry ;)23:20
Coreygarthounet: C'est pas une probleme.23:20
garthounet:)23:20
garthounetgood ;)23:20
garthounetune < no  un < yes23:21
wiredvampi am trying to uninstall gnome screensaver cus i installed xscreensaver23:21
garthounetun problmeme ;)23:21
the-mastermonstartruck:  try compiz23:21
CoreyDoh, that's right, it's masculine.23:21
CoreyIt's been years, sorry. :-)23:21
the-masterno parle francias...23:22
karl-augusttJordan_U: is my system  in OEM mode?23:22
reesk#freenas23:23
aBoundIs there anyway I can use Compiz with Gnome-Shell?23:23
vits!list23:24
ubottuThis is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».23:24
ChrisC_where is ./scripts located? in root?23:25
Kitenskegeek, paste your xorg log too23:26
the-masteraBound: No... you should read this conversation between a Compiz dev and someother dev23:26
Kitenerr pastie or pastebin that is23:26
aBoundthe-master, Gotcha. :P23:26
the-masteraBound, you want a link?23:27
aBoundthe-master, Sure why not.23:27
Melissa2012so let me get this straight.  I have 4GB RAM and 1GB video RAM.  If I install 32bit Ubuntu, all Unbuntu can use is 3.5GB RAM and 0.5GB video ram, total=4GB?   but if I install the 64bit Ubuntu, Ubuntu can use the total of 5GB memory?23:29
aBoundDang, there are some nice themes with gnome-shell but ugh.23:30
MoMoi have a file and i am in the console -- how can i tell how big that file is?23:30
KitenMelissa2012, uhh no 32bit ubuntu can support up to 4gb but no more, your graphics should be fine23:30
bammbammCan anyone tell me the terminal command to restart samba?23:30
ChrisC_Where is ./script/ located? the period is root, correct?23:30
GoodmaNMoMo: du -h file23:30
KitenChris_0076, no the . is the current directory23:31
riddleboxcan you integrate your google calendar with the unity calendar? like you can in gnome3?23:31
Ryllez89guys, when i try to open one app with wine, show this for me http://paste.ubuntu.com/788414/23:31
Ryllez89anyone can help me?23:31
MoMoGoodmaN: nice -- thank you23:31
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bammbammRyllez89: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=154836523:33
bammbammLook at post #923:33
Chris_0076ok23:33
Edward2WHY DOES THE VOLUME SETTINGS RESET ITSELF!?23:35
icerootRyllez89: chmod +x on that file23:35
monstaRtruckthx gnome tweak worked23:35
icerootRyllez89: also its a good idea not to buy products which needs to be jailbreaked first to be usable23:35
Ryllez89bammbamm, thank u dude, u resolve my problem23:35
icerootbammbamm: sudo service samba restart23:36
icerootbammbamm: maybe its smb or smbd instead of samba23:36
Kitenskegeek, so far everything looks fine did you install your gpu's proprietary or are you using normal drivers ?23:37
Kiten*gpu's proprietary drivers23:37
bammbammRyllez89: np23:37
Kouenhello23:37
bammbammiceroot: smbd worked - thanks!23:38
Koueni need help23:38
MoMois there a way to nohup a background process thats running?23:39
icerootMoMo: #bash23:39
iceroot!ask | Kouen23:39
ubottuKouen: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience23:39
MoMoroger that thx23:39
dr_willisMoMo:  http://www.quantprinciple.com/invest/index.php/docs/tipsandtricks/unix/jobcontrol/23:40
Kouensudo ufw allow 192.168.0.0/24 to any port 22 this is some sentence i found on the web i want to know what does it mean "/24"23:40
beelowzero.23:41
dr_willisKouen:  its a 'mask' that you can thinkof as a wildcard appled to the ip#.23:41
icerootKouen: its the subnet which is the same as 255.255.255.023:41
Kouenso /24 means 255.255.255.023:41
icerootKouen: wikipedia has a good description about "subnet/subnetmask"23:41
zer0rezok just changed over to i3, and used to using screen(well byobu remapped to screen), now typing screen no longer remaps to it, what rc or config isn't being read properly?23:41
Kouenaaaaaaaaah tyanks a lot guys23:42
dr_willisKouen:  http://www.tek-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=120618923:42
Kouenand happy new year in advance23:42
icerootKouen: yes, it means 24bit are reservers for the network  255.255.255.0 = 24bit, 255.255.255.255 = 32bit, 255.255.0.0 = 16bit23:42
Ryllez89anyone here know how i mount the iphone on linux? here show's unable to mount23:42
icerootKouen: so 255.255.0.0 would be /1623:42
dr_williszer0rez:  what do you mean remapped to screen?23:43
iceroot!iphone | Ryllez8923:43
Edward2I'm having problems with the Sound Settings. Every time I set the Input Connector to Analog Microphone, it resets itself to Analog Line-In. Why does it do this and is there a conf file I can edit to force it to stay the other way?23:43
ubottuRyllez89: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod23:43
Edward2I'm having problems with the Sound Settings. Every time I set the Input Connector to Analog Microphone, it resets itself to Analog Line-In. Why does it do this and is there a conf file I can edit to force it to stay the other way?23:43
Edward2I'm having problems with the Sound Settings. Every time I set the Input Connector to Analog Microphone, it resets itself to Analog Line-In. Why does it do this and is there a conf file I can edit to force it to stay the other way?23:43
FloodBot1Edward2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.23:43
Kouenok23:43
skegeekback23:43
Kitenskegeek, so far everything looks fine did you install your gpu's proprietary or are you using normal drivers ?23:43
krambiorixhi guys23:43
Kiten*gpu's proprietary drivers23:44
krambiorixwhat would be a good backup tool to backup files and mysql databases?23:44
zer0rezdr_willis, i'd type screen in terminal and i'd really get byobu w/ all it's settings and info @ the bottom23:44
skegeekThe intel graphic drivers are installed, if that's what you mean...23:44
Kitendid you install them is  what i'm getting at ?23:44
Kitens/?//23:44
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skegeekThey were installed automatically.23:45
bohello i had a problem and found out that i need to free up disk space (as when i type "df" i have "0" available and 100% use)... i tried going in the /home/username directory and enter "ls" to see what is there but there was only one thing that i don't think can be responsible for filling up the entire sda5 partition23:45
icerootkrambiorix: for mysql "mysqldump"23:45
iceroot!backup | krambiorix23:45
ubottukrambiorix: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning23:45
boany ideas?23:45
skegeekI checked to make sure.23:45
icerootbo: du -sh *  will show what is using how much space23:45
Edward2bo: try ls -la23:45
MonkeyDustkrambiorix  where did you get your nick?23:45
dr_williszer0rez:  so you set up an alias..23:45
boiceroot: ty23:46
Kitenskegeek, hmm you might need to try reverting to vesa, if that doesn't fix it then your monitor is having trouble23:46
boedward2: what is that?23:46
krambiorixMonkeyDust, i invented it23:46
Edward2bo --list --all23:46
icerootbo: a good way to free up some space is "sudo apt-get autoremoce && sudo apt-get clean"23:46
Kitencommunicating with *buntu(*nix)23:46
dr_williszer0rez:   you can set byobu where it auto launches as needed23:46
MonkeyDustkrambiorix  ambiorix is a local historical hero where i come from23:46
Kiteniceroot * autoremove :P23:46
skegeekIt was revering to vesa in 11.10 without resolve.23:46
icerootbo: a good way to free up some space is "sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean"23:47
Jay_LevittSo just when I think I have a handle on .bashrc vs .bash_profile and login vs interactive shells, Ubuntu has some trickiness where it always runs .bashrc as long as .bash_profile isn't set - but NOT /etc/profile... can anyone point me at an accurate, up-to-date doc on what runs when?23:47
icerootKiten: thx23:47
krambiorixMonkeyDust, yeah that's a flemish hero23:47
Kitennp :P23:47
boiceroot and edward2: ty23:47
zer0rezdr_willis, no i didn't set one up that's what's weird23:47
boi will try that23:47
zer0rezi figured it was a ubuntu thing.23:47
krambiorixMonkeyDust, people call me krambo (like rambo) and to make it flemish we added ambiorix23:47
thomedymy wireless is down23:47
icerootJay_Levitt: #basj23:47
Kitenskegeek, from what i've gathered i'd assume its a laptop ?23:47
syerocnoob here. can anyone offer advice on getting a netgear usb wireless adapter to install on a fresh ubuntu install23:47
thomedyd i ran wlist scan23:47
zer0rezdr_willis,  all my other alias's and variables are working.23:47
skegeekSorry, it'd probably help to tell you that I have an external KOGi LCD connected, not just internal LCd.23:48
Kouenanother question... how can i know that for rendering purposes its working the graphics card for acceleration by hardware23:48
Kitenahh yeah that would help alot :P23:48
Jay_Levitticeroot: no, Ubuntu is going beyond what vanilla bash loads23:48
iceroot!info bash23:48
ubottubash (source: bash): The GNU Bourne Again SHell. In component main, is required. Version 4.2-0ubuntu4 (oneiric), package size 569 kB, installed size 1336 kB23:48
Kitenskegeek, are you using one or the other soley ? or have you got some conglomerate dual screen setup ?23:48
Kiten*solely23:49
icerootJay_Levitt: i dont think ubuntu patched the bash about that feature but ok23:49
skegeekThey're mirrored23:49
icerootbo: lets use this chat23:49
book23:49
Kitenahh do they both blackout or just one ?23:49
Jay_Levitticeroot: I'm sure they didn't patch it, they just have some, er, patchwork of scripts that ends up running .bashrc even for interactive shells23:49
icerootbo: the command i gave you will remove packages which are no longer needed on /23:49
skegeekI believe they both do it.23:49
icerootJay_Levitt: bashrc is always executed for interactive shells23:49
Kitenyou using the same driver on both displays ?23:49
boiceroot: ok, and if i want to delete the entire sda5?23:50
icerootJay_Levitt: that is not ubuntu-specific23:50
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skegeekI assume so.23:50
icerootbo: formating?23:50
boiceroot: throught command prompt23:50
bo?23:50
icerootbo: what about using rm instead of a reformat?23:50
icerootbo: rm -rf /path/to/place/which/you/want/to/remove23:51
Kitenskegeek, your using buntu right ?23:51
boiceroot: but how do i know what to rm? use the ls -la?23:51
skegeekThe internal is a 15.4" WXGA (LVCD output) and external is ~17" FlatScreen which I believe is LCD.23:51
skegeekYes, Ubuntu 10.0423:51
TiMiDobo man rm23:51
Kitengnome ?23:51
skegeekYes.23:51
icerootbo: rm -rf /foo/bar  that will delete the folder bar, rm -rf /foo/bar/ will delete eversything IN bar but not bar itself23:52
skegeekGnome 2.30.223:52
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icerootbo: rm -rf /foo/bar  that will delete the folder bar, rm -rf /foo/bar/* will delete eversything IN bar but not bar itself23:52
Jay_Levitticeroot: Ubuntu's own man page says "When an interactive shell that is not a login shell  is  started,  bash reads  and  executes  commands  from /etc/bash.bashrc and ~/.bashrc, if these files exist."23:52
Kitengoto system -> administration-> log file viewer then paste your xorg's to pastebin/pastie/paste.ubuntu23:52
Kitenetc23:52
icerootJay_Levitt: yes, and?23:52
icerootJay_Levitt: that is the bash-default23:52
icerootJay_Levitt: and not ubuntu-specific23:53
Jay_Levitticeroot: yes, and.. that is not what actually happens.23:53
Kiteni have a feeling you might be running different drivers23:53
boiceroot: what is -rf?23:53
Jay_Levitticeroot: on Ubuntu, if .bash_profile is not present, an interactive login shell will run .bashrc as well.23:53
icerootJay_Levitt: any errors on "source ~/.bashrc"?23:53
DrPenguinbo: -rf = recursive force23:53
icerootbo: -r = recursiv, -f = dont ask questions23:53
thomedywould someoe help me set up my wirelss23:53
boiceroot: asking questions is how i learn23:54
Jay_Levitticeroot: no, it runs fine. even when the docs say it doesn't run... again, the man page says .bashrc is for interactive NON-login shells, but it runs for interactive YES-login shells as well23:54
DrPenguinbo: lol no, thats what -f means, force means to just do it without confirming anything23:54
icerootbo: that should be the normal way for everyone :)23:54
Kitenbo he meant -f literally meant that :P23:54
Kitenskegeek, did you see my post ?23:54
bolol23:55
icerootJay_Levitt: hm, imo running bashrc on the logonshell (tty1) is the default on every GNU/Linux23:55
DrPenguinJay_Levitt: doesnt bash read .bashlogin if it exists for an interactive login shell and not .bashrc?23:55
DrPenguiner… .bash_login23:55
DrPenguin… whatever it is23:55
Jay_LevittDrPenguin: I think that's what actually happens, yes.. I know that if .bash_profile is present, .bashrc is NOT run in interactive shell23:56
Jay_LevittI suspect .bash_login would also prevent .bashrc23:56
Jay_Levitticeroot: maybe that's true for modern bash, and it's just the man page that's wrong23:56
Jay_Levitticeroot: I know at one point a few years ago I was shocked that there was NO single file that was guaranteed to get loaded in all four combinations (interactive vs non, login vs non)23:57
icerootJay_Levitt: yes maybe, i am not using bash here and my shell is acting a little different23:57
Jay_LevittYes, my zsh works wonderfully as well :) But I'm setting up some servers so I have to hold my nose and use  bash23:57
icerootzsh ftw :)23:58
Jay_LevittMaybe I should just create one central /etc/bash_no_this_one_dammit and have everything else source that.23:58
danawar2Heyaa #ubuntu23:59
fengbo?23:59
DrPenguinJay_Levitt: thats what the system does when there is no local bash files in ~23:59
icerootJay_Levitt: maye have a look at #bash if they have another idea for that case23:59
* Jay_Levitt There's also a confusing comment in th default .bashrc: # If not running interactively, don't do anything23:59
Jay_Levitt[ -z "$PS1" ] && return23:59
boiceroot: should i use "du -sh *" in any particular directory to see what i should delete?23:59

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