[00:00] <sskalnik> or Ctrl + Alt + F(1-6)
[00:00] <aeon-ltd> the-master: just delete the file
[00:00] <mcc> So very soon, this game I wrote will work on Mac and Linux, but not Windows because I can't get the stupid thing to compile...
[00:00] <sskalnik> folek < !de
[00:00] <folek> good boy
[00:00] <mcc> Don't suppose anyone knows if there's a way to force MinGW to produce MSVC compatible binaries?! :P
[00:00] <lee17> hey guys i have a 64 bit laptop but why does it say in the downloads section that 32 bit is "recommended"
[00:00] <metaspike> aeon-ltd, you sure? maybe he should restart or terminate the process. running simulatneous apt- processes isnt' really a good idea.
[00:01] <the-master> metaspike: how do I terminate the process?
[00:01] <metaspike> the-master, you could find it with htop
[00:01] <aeon-ltd> metaspike: if there are no processes running there is no other option
[00:01] <sskalnik> lee17:  32bit is a safe bet if you don't know what you have, and historically it has been somewhat more stable. 64 is totally fine these days though
[00:01] <timaaarrreee> does anyone know how to read the temporay kernel log file  during initramfs? can't mount to get /sbin/init (its' either the filesystem or hard drive)
[00:01] <metaspike> the-master, the prudent option would be to reboot and see if it works then
[00:02] <the-master> Aeon-ltd: I killed a apt-dpkg earlier halfway through, that's why it's doing it...
[00:02] <the-master> I'll try that, metaspike, tyvm... bbs
[00:02] <lee17> sskalnik: what's the difference?
[00:02] <cordoval> meta
[00:02] <metaspike> u might have to delete it afterall but just incase >_<
[00:02] <cordoval> it works
[00:02] <cordoval> man you rock
[00:02] <ionsbrew> aeon-ltd,  Dell inspiron, Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz 512 of ram inbuilt graphix card desk top,  i am running Ubuntu 11.10 fine but feel as I am a newb this may be a little untested and i need a stable version to learn on
[00:02] <metaspike> cordoval, *highfive*
[00:02] <overclucker> the-master: I would try rebooting the computer before deleting the lock file, just to be safe
[00:03] <cordoval> highfive man
[00:03] <cordoval> now back to work
[00:03] <cordoval> thanks a lot
[00:03] <aeon-ltd> ionsbrew: yeah lubuntu or xubuntu would be fine, i just wouldn't run compiz or unity wayy too heavy
[00:03] <mcc> Also, couple more Ubuntu 11 config questions...
[00:04] <ionsbrew> ok thank man
[00:04] <sskalnik> lee17:  32bit works on x86 and x86-64; 64bit won't work on a 32biut machine
[00:04] <mcc> (1) SInce I moved to ubuntu 11, there's this weird thing where the menu bar is blank until I mouse over it (or press a modifier key for some reason. How do I make it not do that and just show the menu bar?
[00:05] <lee17> thank you sskalnik happy holidays
[00:05] <sskalnik> lee17:  64bit may be faster, depending on what you do
[00:05] <sskalnik> lee17:  No prob, have fun!
[00:05] <escott> timaaarrreee, is dmesg in the initramfs?
[00:05] <metaspike> mcc graphical glitch? i suggest compiz tweaking, different video drivers or just a total upgrade / sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:06] <mcc> i don't *think* it's a glitch, it looks super intentional
[00:06] <mcc> like the app title fades out to let the menus appear and stuff
[00:06] <greylurk> mcc: that's just the default in Unity these days.. Not a glitch.  I don't know if there's a way to change it.
[00:06] <brophat> where can I set up that email wigget on the right side of the top bar?
[00:07] <brophat> so that it pings my yahoo account
[00:07] <mcc> hm. it seems like basically all of the defaults in 11 are pretty obnoxious, if there were a way to just get the 10.x desktop environment i'd probably go for it :|
[00:07] <zacarias> Hi. When I download a java application from the internet and I try to open it, it tells me it is not marked as executable. What shall I do?
[00:07] <theadmin> zacarias: Try to guess. Mark it as executable.
[00:07] <overclucker> zacarias: chmod +x file.jar
[00:08] <dr_willis> or do a java -jar foo.jar
[00:08] <mcc> i'm currently trying to get rid of the strange Lion-style scrollbars, I think I figured that out?but it requires restarting (!) so I can't test it yet
[00:08] <theadmin> zacarias: To do so, open the file's properties and choose "Allow executing this file as program" in the Permissions tab
[00:08] <dr_willis> mcc:  the webupd8 and omgubuntu blog sites have guides on tweaking unity.
[00:09] <metaspike> get the source code and hack the stuffing out of it... or as dr_wills says. :0
[00:09] <mcc> will write that down, thanks
[00:09] <rhin0> some reason clicking on bash prompt doesn't work --- anyone know how I get a command shell or what is the command for a command shell (bash)  -- I#ve messed it up
[00:09] <dr_willis> mcc:  and the askubuntu.com site has a lot of lists of addons for unity to check out. new indicator applets, quicklists and other neat tricks.
[00:09] <zacarias> theadmin: that's what I tried to do first, but this command doesn't appear. I'm running Xubuntu, I don't know if it has something to do
[00:09] <the-master> restart did the trick, thanks fellas
[00:09] <mcc> Is there a simple way to just remove the GUI altogether and go to vterms / headless, if I've already installed a GUI install?
[00:09] <dr_willis> rhin0:  alt-f2 run gnome-terminal
[00:09] <lee17> sskalnik: hey uh.. i was looking at the guide but i only have a flip cam that is sort of a usb storage, do you know if that is fine? do i have to empty it to work
[00:09] <dr_willis> !text | mcc
[00:10] <theadmin> zacarias: Okay, just chmod +x something.jar then
[00:10] <rhin0> ok thanks dr willis - what I was looking for
[00:10] <mcc> coool
[00:10] <rhin0> alt-f2
[00:10] <mcc> thanks dr_willis/all
[00:10] <lee17> sskalnik: for saving the iso i mean in a usb stick
[00:10] <dr_willis> mcc:  my main ubuntu box is just that.. a desktop isntall i had to steal the monitor from. :)
[00:10] <sskalnik> lee17:  Are you trying to use the flip cam as a USB installer? Sounds like a hack. Might work, but I would not bet on it.
[00:10] <gnomes> is anyone free for a quick question
[00:10] <sskalnik> !ask > gnomes
[00:10] <lee17> sskalnik: yeah
[00:10] <dr_willis> gnomes:  jusyt ask it and see.
[00:12] <greylurk> Is there a way to install the proprietary nvidia drivers from the command line?
[00:12] <theadmin> greylurk: jockey-text --enable "your drivers name"
[00:13] <theadmin> greylurk: To find out the availalbe drivers, use "jockey-text -l"
[00:13] <theadmin> Both commands need sudo
[00:13] <theadmin> I think
[00:13] <zacarias> overclucker: thanks, it worked!
[00:13] <greylurk> @theadmin - thanks.
[00:15] <gnomes> I was deleting old ppa's under system sources in ubuntu 11.10. I think i might have deleted the standard or "main " canonical update source on accident. is there anyway to restore update managers software sources with out a full reinstall of the os?
[00:15] <sskalnik> I'm trying to test two serial connectors in minicom, but both terminals show the interface as 'offline'. I'm probably forgetting something basic here...
[00:15] <sskalnik> gnomes:  Just edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:15] <dr_willis> sskalnik:  real serial port? or usb-serial things?
[00:16] <gnomes> what would default be for oneiric?
[00:16] <sskalnik> dr_willis:  It's a networked serial port, if that makes any sense. It's serial over Ethernet. I can connect to the device, but the ports are 'offline'
[00:16]  * the-master shrugs "I guess it never hurts to have an install disk lying around anyway"
[00:16] <dr_willis> sskalnik:  hmm.. beyond my experience.
[00:16] <longcat> is there a way to tell my dvdram drive to operate in CAV mode?  the spinning up and down is really slowing things down
[00:16] <sskalnik> dr_willis:  no prob, thanks for trying
[00:17] <dr_willis> sskalnik: i got some old-skool serial termianls :)
[00:17] <nodestool> how do i know if i can upgrade my server if i am on LTS?
[00:18] <gnomes> sskalnik - what would i be looking for under /etc/apt/sources ?
[00:19] <greylurk> @nodestool - what are you upgrading to?
[00:19] <dr_willis> gnomes:  normally pps'a re added one per file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/   while the main sources are in /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:19] <Guest0589> Why is Ubuntu always asking me to authenticate everything I do. Password prompts everywhere. Is this normal? Is there a way to get around this? I'm okay with authenticating some very important things sometimes
[00:19] <dr_willis> gnomes:  so what did you change exactly?
[00:19] <dr_willis> Guest0589:  'eveyrthing i do' is a bit vague....
[00:20] <folek> hello again
[00:20] <greylurk> @guest0589 - yes, that's normal.  It only asks you to auth if you're doing something that could damage the system or harm other users of the system.
[00:20] <theadmin> gnomes: Here's a sources.list with all the official Ubuntu repositories, enable/disable as needed: https://pzt.me/8vqs
[00:20] <dr_willis> You use the sudo users password for admin type tasks..
[00:20] <Guest0589> dr_willis: Not "everything I do". Just things like installing and running some applications
[00:20] <dr_willis> Guest0589:  installing or other admin tasks would need the admin password..
[00:20] <dr_willis> 'running some applications' - depeneds on the app
[00:21] <Guest0589> dr_willis: Is there a way to disable sudo prompts all the time when I'm installing stuff?
[00:21] <gnomes> i was deleting ppa's under other software that i no longer used. my freaking cat jumped up and sat on my keyboard, which deleted all of the ppa's under "other" this would be okay, but now i dont know if i need any under this tab
[00:21] <dr_willis> you normally just have to enter it the first time to get the package manager started. and its either cached for a few min in bash, or just needed once from the gui tools
[00:22] <eutheria> my touchpad is very 'slow' even if i increase it in the control panel it is still very slow
[00:22] <folek> who have macbuntu?
[00:22] <dr_willis> gksudo synaptic, install whats needed...  shouldent ask except the firs time
[00:22] <dr_willis> folek:  macbuntu is somthing you should most likely run away from.....
[00:22] <dr_willis> folek:  unless they have done some serious work on that project it was rather.. well.. flakey last i looked into it.
[00:23] <folek> who is in a LUG?
[00:23] <dr_willis> Linux User Group
[00:23] <dr_willis> !lug
[00:24] <aeon-ltd> dr_willis: +1 macbuntu - looks a lot like a mac gui, works nothing like it
[00:24] <aeon-ltd> * +1 on not using macbuntu
[00:24] <dr_willis> and it can break things badly
[00:24] <the-master> grrr, now its hanging up on configuring ttf-mscorefonts-installer, its not doing anything...but displaying these terms and conditions...
[00:24] <folek> i am in HLUG in OWL germany www.lug-owl.de
[00:25] <Guest0589> dr_willis: What about things like password pop-ups everytime I want to install something in software center?
[00:25] <escott> the-master, have you agreed to them?
[00:25] <xangua> the-master: hit tab to get the accept button
[00:25] <BlaDe^> is ubuntu closest to debian 5 or 6 ?
[00:25] <folek> 6
[00:25] <the-master> xangua: you rock... I feel like a moron now
[00:25] <BlaDe^> folek: can I install debian 6 stuff on ubuntu?
[00:25] <BlaDe^> (mysql)
[00:26] <BlaDe^> or do i need to compile it myself
[00:26] <folek> yes about the deb.paket
[00:26] <projekt26> is there a reason why firefox 9 has not been released for ubuntu yet?
[00:26] <the-master> tab was probably the only key I HADN'T touched...
[00:26] <aeon-ltd> projekt26: branding and documentation
[00:26] <projekt26> ok thanks
[00:26] <folek> the software centre can deb-file installed now
[00:26] <aeon-ltd> projekt26: on canonical/ubuntu's half
[00:27] <aBound> projekt26, You can install Firefox 9 through the PPA.
[00:27] <gnomes> eureka!!! who ever directed me to that ppa page rocks!! you saved me from a fun reinstall
[00:27] <the-master> aBound, what's up broham?
[00:27] <projekt26> aBound: I know. I just dont feel confortable using a browser that does not come from the official source though :)
[00:28] <aBound> projekt26, Understood.
[00:28] <aBound> the-master, Howdy.
[00:28] <aBound> Gave 12.04 a run and just wasn't working out for me given the alpha. :P
[00:30] <the-master> aBound: finally getting that python-glade2 install going...lol
[00:31] <aBound> the-master, How'd you figure it out?
[00:31] <gnomes> quick question as long as i am here, i recently  dual booted my friends hp laptop by using wubi. we soon uninstalled wubi because we relised that it limited your partition to 30gb.  i then partitioned using windows, then installed 11.10 ubuntu on that partition. after the install ubuntu works fine, but it says windows was corrupted!!! is this a known issue?
[00:33] <aBound> gnomes, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[00:33] <aBound> gnomes, Seems like a known problem with Wubi.
[00:34] <the-master> and of course, even though the cd is in the cd drive, its still asking me to insert it
[00:34] <aBound> the-master, It'll be a while before Linux just works. :P lol
[00:35] <setekh> let's hope I do this right.  I haven't used IRC in years.  hi :)  I've got a problem with installing Ubuntu 10.04LTS and all of the documentation I have read does not address the issue I am having.  is there anyone available to assist?
[00:35] <the-master> oh snap... its asking me to run it in my OTHER CD rom drive, the one the motor is broken in...
[00:35] <aBound> setekh, What issues are you currently citing for Ubuntu 10.04 LTS?
[00:36] <aBound> the-master, Oh boy sounds like you're in for a long day.
[00:37] <gastronomixical> 'lo
[00:37]  * the-master gets out hammer and screwdriver "You're preaching to the choir, mein freund
[00:37] <Flannel> the-master: Is this an Ubuntu CD that it's trying to use as a repository?
[00:37] <share> w
[00:37] <Flannel> (backscroll isn't clear)
[00:37] <share> Why lsusb lists most hubs as 1.1 and only 2 as 2.0?
[00:37] <wiredvamp> i am trying to get my webcam to work on skype
[00:37] <share> I only have 2 usb 1.1 ports
[00:37] <setekh> aBound: we cannot get the wireless controller to work, wlan0 does populate info but isn't configured.  eth0 is broken (the actual physical plug connection malfunctions) so we cannot get updates via the network that way
[00:37] <the-master> Flannel: Yes, I've been trying to install python-glade2 for two days, and it keeps asking me for the CD no matter what I do...
[00:38] <Flannel> the-master: and you're connected to the internet (and don't really care about actually using the CD, just want it to stop asking you)?
[00:38] <the-master> flannel: Well, I'd really like to install python-glade2 so I can use samba
[00:39] <Flannel> the-master: This computer is connected to the internet? or are you actually trying to use the CD?
[00:39] <the-master> Flannel: The computer is connected to the internet, but its still asking me for the CD
[00:40] <Flannel> the-master: right, I understand.  You need to simply disable the CD as a software source.  We can do that by editing files, or using a GUI, which would you prefer?
[00:40] <the-master> flannel: I'm kind of a newb, so whichever teaches me more
[00:41] <Flannel> the-master: Alright.  We'll go ahead and edit files, because that's easier for me to show you what to do (because they keep moving/renaming the GUI).
[00:41] <the-master> flannel: go for it... but I've gotta run out soon, so if you could just point me to a web page that I could look at later, that would be most helpful
[00:41] <xangua> the-master: Flannel open Software Center - Edit - Sources, has never change
[00:43] <KarmaTEST> khm
[00:43] <Flannel> xangua: Except for when that option didn't exist.
[00:43] <xangua> Flannel: it does
[00:43] <Flannel> the-master: If we run out of time, you can ask anyone in here to help you disable the CD repository from your sources.list.  Someone will know what that means.
[00:44] <Flannel> xangua: In past releases, it hasn't.  Like I said, it seems to move every few releases.
[00:45] <xangua> Flannel: it does exist here in lucid and in oneric
[00:45] <the-master> I think I actually may have figured it out with my bad self, flannel...
[00:45] <Flannel> xangua: There are more releases than just those two.  In the past it's been "software sources", "software properties", only accessible via Synaptic, etc, etc.
[00:46] <Chief_G> can we do netflix on latest ubuntu?
[00:46] <the-master> uncheck that little box that says "cdrom with ubuntu 11.10 oneric ocelot" under the ubuntu software
[00:46] <Flannel> the-master: Good.  If you opened up said GUI, and unchecked the CD repositories, that'll accomplish it.  (But that's harder to explain via text)
[00:46] <Flannel> the-master: Yep, sounds about right.
[00:47] <escott> Chief_G, no
[00:47] <Chief_G> :( any hope?
[00:47] <Flannel> the-master: Now you should be able to update your software cache, and then install, and it won't ask for the CD anymore.
[00:47] <overclucker> Chief_G: it's up to netflix to start supporting linux
[00:48] <escott> Chief_G, not likely. you can write to netflix, but the studios would make netflix pay so much for that right that netflix would balk
[00:48] <xcyclist> I am having a hard time configuring basic eruby on ubuntu with apache.  Anyone have any suggestions?  I got told by the apache guys that nobody does this anymore, but there are obviously eruby/erubis packages that install successfully on Ubuntu, so what gives?
[00:49] <eggnogg> how do I unzip a .gz file?
[00:49] <the-master> alright kids, I'm out!
[00:49] <the-master> peace and love
[00:49] <overclucker> eggnogg: is it just .gz, or is it .tar.gz?
[00:49] <eggnogg> just .gz
[00:49] <xix4rrito> how can i see the server error log?
[00:50] <eggnogg> i think i just did it with gunzip filename
[00:50] <mcc> hm
[00:50] <Guest0589>  I removed my password from my user account because I found it really annoying to type it in for everything I wanted to install and do to my computer.
[00:50] <Guest0589> Now I can't authenticate anything. I go into my user account and it says "password none" and "automatic login on".
[00:50] <somsip> xix4rrito: what server? Apache?
[00:50] <mcc> in ubuntu 11 just now, i pressed a key combination (not sure what) and a tiny text entry box witha n orange border appeared in the bottom right of the screen
[00:50] <mcc> i'm not even sure that was ubuntu
[00:50] <overclucker> eggnogg: gunzip file.gz
[00:50] <mcc> it could have been virtualbox
[00:50] <mcc> any idea what that was
[00:50] <FloodBot1> mcc: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:50] <Guest0589> I'm able to log-in, just not install anything
[00:51] <escott> Guest0589, boot to single user rescue mode and reset your users password
[00:51] <Guest0589> escott: how do I do that?
[00:51] <timaaarrreee> escott: no there is noting in /var on the ramdisk
[00:53] <escott> Guest0589, when you are booting hit "esc" to get the grub menu, and then pick the rescue or single option. then you will have a root prompt and you can type passwd username (replacing username with your username) when that is done "reboot"
[00:53] <escott> timaaarrreee, don't think that was meant for me
[00:54] <Guest0589> escott: Thank you!
[00:54] <timaaarrreee> escott: you asked me if dmesg was in the initramdisk
[00:54] <escott> timaaarrreee, not the file. the binary, /bin/dmesg
[00:55] <gastronomixical> Can't anyone help me with rdp?
[00:56] <timaaarrreee> escott: ive never used the before. i thought you meant the 'messages' file
[00:56] <reisio> gastronomixical: done!
[00:57] <gastronomixical> hm?
[00:58] <wireladen> hello
[00:58] <reisio> gastronomixical: I grant you help
[00:58] <reisio> wireladen: hi
[00:58] <wireladen> reisio, hello
[00:58] <wireladen> reisio, and thanks in advance
[00:59] <wireladen> pm?
[00:59] <gastronomixical> reisio: okay... I'm trying to get ubuntu's rdp client to read Windows .rdp files, and it boots me out
[00:59] <reisio> wireladen: um, if you want
[00:59] <reisio> gastronomixical: which client?
[01:01] <phiil_> errrr.... can i use ghost a laptop that runs ubuntu?
[01:01] <arial_> I have a question about syncing an iPod touch with ubuntu 10.04.  What packages are necessary for this?  My situation is that after install of 10.04, my iPod was recognized by the system but not acknowledged by Rhythmbox.
[01:01] <Fudge> how can i tell oneiric to remember my rear mic setting instead of front
[01:02] <reisio> phiil_: hrmm?
[01:03] <reisio> arial_: what model iPod?
[01:04] <arial_> I have an 8GB iPod touch
[01:05] <phiil_> reisio: well when someone ghosts a computer i think that they competely copy the hard drive exactly to the other computer using a sata cable, is it possible to do that with a laptop when running ubuntu?
[01:05] <reisio> phiil_: yes
[01:05] <reisio> phiil_: you want to do it _to_ Ubuntu or _with_ Ubuntu?
[01:05] <hihaatje> is this the proper place to look for some help with ubuntu?
[01:05] <phiil_> umm
[01:06] <zulax> hihaatje, i believe so
[01:06] <phiil_> with ubuntu and to ubuntu between two computers
[01:06] <hihaatje> okay
[01:06] <phiil_> two laptops to be exact
[01:06] <reisio> phiil_: yes, however
[01:06] <reisio> phiil_: the Ubuntu OS itself is mirrored in thousands of places, so there's little reason to back it up, or make an image of it
[01:06] <Ra_> anyone know how to take a .pl file and make a desktop icon work?
[01:06] <Ra_> i am new to ubuntu
[01:07] <reisio> phiil_: it's more sensible to use to rsync to backup /home/
[01:07] <phiil_> oh yeah yeah that makes sense
[01:07] <reisio> full image backups are more useful with operating systems like Windows, which are booby trapped to only work on their originally installed-to hardware
[01:07] <phiil_> didnt think of that, never used rsync before
[01:07] <reisio> lovely app, rsync
[01:07] <reisio> though cp -a is frequently just as good
[01:07] <phiil_> heehe
[01:07] <wireladen> hotkey for opening terminal?
[01:08] <reisio> or tar -cvf home01.tar /home/ && cp home01.tar foo/
[01:08] <reisio> wireladen: CTRL+ALT+t
[01:08] <Skummel> ctrl + alt + t wiredvamp
[01:08] <wireladen> thanks my gui is screwed
[01:08] <wireladen> mouse wont work
[01:08] <phiil_> ok so just use cp to backup /home and im good to go!!!
[01:08] <reisio> phiil_: basically
[01:08] <reisio> though rsync is a little more elegant :)
[01:08] <phiil_> need a thumbdrive tho heeheehe
[01:08] <phiil_> yeah ill learn to use rsync
[01:08] <Ra_> desktop icon?
[01:08] <darren> Hello everyone
[01:09] <wiredvamp> ok? Skummel
[01:09] <Skummel> wrong tab
[01:09] <reisio> phiil_: it's basically just: rsync -av /home/ /mnt/some/other/place/home/
[01:09] <darren> I'm using Ubuntu in Rackspace CloudServers. And, I'm wanting to see how well they are performing
[01:09] <reisio> phiil_: if it's interrupted, just re-run it, it'll skip things it's already copied
[01:09] <milo_> Hi there everybody.
[01:09] <darren> Any tips?
[01:09] <wireladen> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[01:09] <wireladen> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[01:09] <hihaatje> I have just installed ubuntu 11.10 using the wubi installer, and all of the installation went just fine, but once i boot into ubuntu my mouse will work incorrectly (clicks wont register) but it will move. i am unable to click anything on the programs menu, almost as if it has the wrong program in the foreground. when i mash some buttons, it works, but once i open another program the same thing applies. is this a common error?
[01:09] <phiil_> ok sounds goood and cool
[01:09] <milo_> Can anybody recommend a good tutorial video for how to open Tar.gz files?
[01:09] <Skummel> wireladen what are you doing?
[01:09] <reisio> hihaatje: how many buttons on your mouse?
[01:10] <Ra_> is there anyway to get arround password?
[01:10] <reisio> hihaatje: scrollwheels typically count as three (forward/back/down)
[01:10] <hihaatje> 9
[01:10] <hihaatje> oh
[01:10] <Skummel> Ra_ password where?
[01:10] <hihaatje> then
[01:10] <wireladen> Skummel, trying to apt-get in non root user
[01:10] <hihaatje> 15
[01:10] <hihaatje> lol
[01:10] <reisio> hihaatje: heh
[01:10] <phiil_> reisio: rsync cant make an iso image out  of an OS can it?
[01:10] <reisio> hihaatje: X may be confused as to which of your 15 buttons is left-click
[01:10] <wireladen> Skummel, something happened and my persistent is all krazy.
[01:10] <reisio> phiil_: that isn't its purpose, no
[01:10] <Skummel> wireladen sudo apt-get
[01:11] <reisio> phiil_: you still want an image?
[01:11] <phiil_> yeah
[01:11] <reisio> phiil_: why?
[01:11] <hihaatje> reisio: okay, but it will be hard to install proper drivers without the mouse working
[01:11] <phiil_> cos i want ubuntu to feel like windows
[01:11] <reisio> hihaatje: give this a go: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/X.Org/Mouse#using_xinput
[01:12] <reisio> hihaatje: or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[01:12] <arial_> How do you install programs without using the ubuntu software center?
[01:12] <reisio> phiil_: ...terrible? :p
[01:12] <wireladen> <my username> not in the sudoers folder
[01:12] <reisio> arial_: tediously
[01:12] <reisio> arial_: why do you ask
[01:12] <supuers> sudo apt-get install
[01:12] <phiil_> oh i now remember there being something that you boot from like a dvd with iso that makes an image or somehting for windows
[01:12] <wireladen> Skummel,  <my username> not in the sudoers file.
[01:13] <phiil_> maybe it will work for linux
[01:13] <hihaatje> Okay, i will now. thank you for the help, is there any way i can open terminal using the keyboard?
[01:13] <phiil_> ghosting i mean
[01:13] <neil__> hi
[01:13] <reisio> phiil_: an image of a device is an image of a device, the software shouldn't care what data is on it
[01:13] <phiil_> lol ghosting linux
[01:13] <phiil_> hhh
[01:13] <reisio> phiil_: but you'll be wasting your time I promise you
[01:13] <arial_> Let me rephrase my question; What does the software center actually do with the packages it receives?
[01:13] <reisio> you need only backup (via ordinary cp/rsync) your personal data, not the OS files
[01:13] <reisio> arial_: rephrase?
[01:13] <xangua> arial_: installs them¿
[01:14] <phiil_> yeah ok
[01:14] <arial_> Sorry- does that simply mean placing the files in the appropriate repository in the file system?
[01:14] <neil__> i  have a webserver behind firewall, i have set a virtual host , i try to view the site from another comuter behind the firewall on my lan, and it can not find  it,  does anyone can direct me to a place to read about this to debug it ? tx
[01:14] <xangua> hihaatje: control+alt+t
[01:14] <reisio> the reason it's useful to have image backups of Windows is because you have to pay for each copy of the OS files
[01:14] <Skummel> wireladen boot in recovery mode and add your user to the sudoer file
[01:14] <reisio> and the system is not portable to other hardware after installation
[01:15] <reisio> neither is the case with free Unixes
[01:15] <phiil_> ohhh i understand now
[01:15] <reisio> arial_: places precompiled binaries and other files where they belong in the filesystem, yes
[01:16] <greylurk> It is sometimes useful to have a ghost image that you can use to install a pile of apps with the same configuration on a bunch of different machines (say, in enterprise workstation builds)
[01:16] <reisio> yes, sometimes :)
[01:16] <wireladen> Skummel, brb
[01:16] <greylurk> I don't know what the linux answer to that is, though I'd say build yourself a repo, and learn dpkg.
[01:17] <greylurk> Or puppet.
[01:17] <arial_> reisio_: thanks.  Can you tell me what packages (or where to find them) are necessary to sync an ipod touch with lucid?  I removed "libimobiledevice0" by mistake.
[01:17] <xangua> arial_: to sync apple decives you need libimoviledevice
[01:17] <reisio> arial_: there's this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ipod%20touch
[01:18] <arial_> reisio_: thanks
[01:18] <troulouliou_dev> hi i have installed ubnutu 11.10 on a dell xps m1530 wit a nvidia 8M family graphic card , first everything was running normally but after i installed the proprietary drivers , unity fails back to 2D mode and gnome-shell do not start
[01:18] <ant0neo> can anyone assist? I need to get and install an application/x-gzip decoder plugin
[01:18] <troulouliou_dev> glxinfo report no problem
[01:19] <milo_> Hey there, could somebody walk me through a tar.gz installation?
[01:19] <darren> How do I monitor performance remotely?
[01:19] <reisio> milo_: of what
[01:19] <xangua> !compile | milo_
[01:19] <reisio> troulouliou_dev: revert to non-proprietary drivers
[01:19] <debugnet> milo_: from the command line do gunzip -cd [tar.gz file]|tar -x
[01:19] <reisio> troulouliou_dev: or try a different version of proprietary drivers
[01:19] <milo_> have a wicd-1.6.2.tar.gz file in my download folder. Havn't been able to get stuff done.
[01:20] <xangua> milo_: wicd is already on the repository
[01:20] <troulouliou_dev> reisio, yeah i tried with th proposed 173 and the recomended 280 , still fail
[01:20] <troulouliou_dev> reisio, if i remove thel then i will use mesa or nouveau ?
[01:20] <debugnet> milo_: then do a cd to the newly created directory and then ./configure or ./config depending on which is in the directory then finally a make and make install assuming no errors
[01:20] <reisio> troulouliou_dev: try running sudo nvidia-xconfig and restarting X
[01:20] <reisio> troulouliou_dev: nouveau probably
[01:20] <troulouliou_dev> reisio, did that too
[01:20] <troulouliou_dev> ok
[01:21] <reisio> milo_: you want an older wicd?
[01:21] <milo_> gunzip-cd[tar.gzfile]:command not found
[01:21] <milo_> THere is a "bad password" message. I've read that installing the older version fixes the problem sometime.
[01:22] <debugnet> milo_: you have to use the file name that you saved
[01:22] <milo_> I don't know enough to get the original working. I'm new to Linux and nothing makes anysense.
[01:22] <supuers> have no issue using irc chat on laptop on my tower however it asks me if this is an ssl connection any ideas?
[01:22] <reisio> supuers: answer it?
[01:22] <milo_> People talk to me like I should know what they're talking about, but I'm not on here because I know what I'm doing.
[01:22] <milo_> So it can be confusing.
[01:23] <reisio> milo_: wicd-1.7.0 is in the repos, I'm not sure why you want to manually install it, let alone an old version
[01:23] <ant0neo> at least they talk 2 U milo:
[01:23] <debugnet> milo_: sorry about that, let me start from the beginning, do you have a terminal window open?
[01:23] <milo_> That's true.
[01:23] <milo_> At least they talk to me.
[01:23] <reisio> ant0neo: plugin?
[01:23] <justice> hey, building a computer and having problems starting it up anyone able to help me figure how to troubleshoot? I can't do anything useful with it but watch it post.
[01:23] <reisio> milo_: otis_
[01:23] <milo_> debugnet:Yes
[01:24] <reisio> justice: run the specs by #hardware, make sure you have the right power, etc.
[01:24] <milo_> I was just typing in the terminal window.
[01:24] <debugnet> milo_: where did you save the tar.gz file?
[01:24] <supuers> can you boot into the os at all
[01:24] <debugnet> milo_: if you don't know, no biggy i there is a way to find it.
[01:24] <milo_> home/milo/Downloads
[01:24] <ant0neo> application/x-gzip decoder plugin for the sound recorder
[01:24] <debugnet> milo_: k. from the terminal type: cd /home/milo/Downloads make sure you are case sensitive
[01:24] <milo_> file is: wicd-1.6.2.tar.gz
[01:25] <ant0neo> O cannot play a recording I just made on mumble platform as I dont have this plugin
[01:25] <milo_> Ok, I changed the directory
[01:25] <debugnet> milo_: from there type gunzip -cd wicd-1.6.2.tar.gz|tar -x
[01:25] <ant0neo> I appologise for my ineptitute in not knowing where and how to get such a simple thing as a plugin
[01:26] <milo_> Sorry if I come across as grumpy.
[01:26] <milo_> tar-x: command not found
[01:26] <greylurk> ant0neo application/x-gzip is a .gz file.  gzip is the app to read those.
[01:26] <milo_> gunzip-cd:command not found
[01:27] <debugnet> milo_: make sure you include the spaces in between where they go.
[01:27] <greylurk> milo_: forgot a space.
[01:27] <ant0neo> and that is available at Ubntu software centre? greylurk?
[01:28] <milo_> I copied and pasted what you typed and didn't get any "command not found" messages. Not sure where I messed up.
[01:28] <debugnet> milo_: good
[01:28] <greylurk> ant0neo - it's part of the standard base install.  just type gzip -d <filename>
[01:28] <debugnet> milo_: from there type ls -al to see if there is any new folders in there
[01:28] <ant0neo> thanks greylurk appreciated
[01:28] <milo_> Thanks again for helping by the way. Don't mean to take my frustrations out on you guys who are helping me out.
[01:29] <debugnet> milo_: no biggy i enjoi this stuff
[01:29] <milo_> No command 'ls-al' found, did you mean: Command 'lshal' from package 'hal' (universe)
[01:30] <DrPenguin> ls -al
[01:30] <DrPenguin> need a space in there
[01:30] <escott> milo_, "ls -al" with the space
[01:30] <greylurk> milo_ : You have to put a space between the command and the dash.
[01:30] <milo_> OH! There is a space there. My bad. Let's try that again.
[01:30] <supuers> debugnet any ideas on why xchat will not connect to server and asks if this is an ssl connection
[01:30] <milo_> Ha, ok, it gave me some stuff back. Sweet! Finally getting somewhere!
[01:31] <debugnet> milo_: what directorys (probably in blue) do you see in there?
[01:31] <debugnet> supuers: i am not to familiar with xchat cuz i use irssi but i would assume that you should be able to just connect anyway cuz this is not ssl
[01:31] <milo_> debugnet: Uhm, not sure. It says Bootdisk in blue and wicd-1.6.2 in blue
[01:32] <debugnet> milo_: k now type cd widc-1.6.2
[01:32] <milo_> should I try to do a pastebin thing?
[01:32] <supuers> okay thanks
[01:32] <debugnet> milo_: nah, i got what i need so far
[01:32] <milo_> bash: cd: widc-1.6.2: No such file or directory
[01:33] <debugnet> milo_: oops that was my typo wicd not widc
[01:34] <ubuntuser1> hello Ive been having problems trying to install the hp deskjet 3050 j610 because the driver is not found. Anyone has any experience working out this issue_
[01:34] <milo_> Oh, I should have caught that. My bad.
[01:34] <milo_> Ok, it's changed.
[01:34] <debugnet> milo_: you can use the up key to go back in commands you've typed and then use the left key to go back to the characters that you miss typed and then delete them as necessary
[01:34] <Tommy34> when I install Ubuntu, what exactly does Grub do, and where exactly does Grub write data?  to MBR and FAT? Or somewhere else?
[01:35] <milo_> Oh yeah. I forgot about that. That makes things easier.
[01:35] <debugnet> Tommy34: to mbr if you tell it to.
[01:35] <reisio> ubuntuser1: install hplip and hplip-gui
[01:35] <reisio> ubuntuser1: might be what you need
[01:35] <milo_> Oh, all these files are in my download folder.
[01:35] <ant0neo> greylurk: I typed type gzip -d and the file name that is in the sound recorder (mumble-1.2.3.tar.gz) into terminal and got gzip is /bin/gzip
[01:35] <ant0neo> bash: type: -d: not found
[01:35] <ant0neo> bash: type: mumble-1.2.3.tar.gz: not found
[01:35] <ant0neo>  
[01:36] <forlas1> Hello, is there a policy anywhere that says how updates to packages work (ie if the package is broken in stable and needs an update, does it get pushed to stable or to the next release?)
[01:36] <reisio> Tommy34: GRUB tells the computer where the kernel/OSes are
[01:36] <ubuntuser1> reisio, thans
[01:36] <debugnet> milo_: from there type: ./config and then press the tab key and it should finish typing the rest or put a space after letting you know that it is correct (so that you know which one to use)
[01:36] <reisio> Tommy34: it's install to the MBR typically, which is just the very beginning of the disk that the OS doesn't use
[01:37] <reisio> Tommy34: though userspace utils and configurations are also required
[01:38] <milo_> Nothing happened when I pressed tab...
[01:38] <hihaatje> Hey, i tried what you said
[01:39] <dr_willis> Tab key is our friend. :) play with it and learn what it does..
[01:39] <milo_> debugnet: wait, if I put your name up it highlights what I type in red so you can see it better?
[01:39] <dr_willis> milo_:  thats a feature of the irc client. It highlits anyone that says dr_willis  (in my case)
[01:40] <debugnet> milo_: yep
[01:40] <milo_> debugnet: Whao, it says "Display all 2307 possibilities? (y or n)
[01:40] <dr_willis> milo_:  so hopefully your irc client highlights anyoen that says milo_
[01:40] <dr_willis> becuse you hit tab After a space...
[01:40] <debugnet> milo_: no
[01:40] <dr_willis> its completing 'everything' that matches..
[01:40] <milo_> dr_willis: That's pretty cool
[01:41] <dr_willis> tab key works in dozens+ other areas in bash also..
[01:41] <debugnet> milo_: could you do me a favor and paste the link to where you download the file so i can see the contents as well?
[01:41] <dr_willis> apt-get install foo<tab>    completes names for example.
[01:41] <Tommy34> so if I install Ubuntu,  Grub only writes itself to the MBR, and nowhere else?
[01:41] <dr_willis> Tommy34:  the grub boot record goes to the MBR. it then reads files from the /boot/ location to do the actual booting.
[01:42] <greylurk> Tommy34: Depends on your definition of grub, but mostly.
[01:42] <dr_willis> Tommy34:  grub normally goes to the MBR of the disk you are booting..
[01:42] <milo_> debugnet: https://launchpad.net/wicd/1.6
[01:42] <hihaatje> hey guys i was here just now, had a problem with ubuntu 11.10, when i run it the mouse would frequently stop working (as in not being able to click on anything). someone here thought it might have to do with my mouse having too much buttons and that i should try changing the button map with xinput. i tried that, but it didnt work.
[01:42] <Tommy34> dr_willis: so if you want to completely remove grub and have W7 boot as normal again, what do you do?
[01:42] <dr_willis> Tommy34:  have windows reinstall its bootloader to the mbr.
[01:43] <Tommy34> dr_willis: i dont have the W7 DVDs.  its only on my rescue partition and does a complete factory default.  Other suggestions?
[01:43] <supuers> or use the windows startup disk
[01:43] <Tommy34> i dont have a windows startup disk
[01:43] <dr_willis> Tommy34:  ms has download sites/iso images you can get to do recovery/repair options.. #windows would know more.
[01:43] <Tommy34> dr_willis: no they dont have any free isos
[01:43] <dr_willis> Tommy34:  yes they do...
[01:44] <dr_willis> they have small 'recovery/repair' iso images you can get.
[01:44] <Tommy34> dr_willis: they dont, and theres no link to one
[01:44] <dr_willis> legally and free last i checked. saw them mentioned on  Lifehacker a few months back.
[01:44] <Tommy34> dr_willis: Link?  cause I couldnt find any
[01:44] <ubuntuser1> reisio, I just installed the hplip-gui and hplip but cannot get the printer to work. It says that the driver is missing
[01:44] <extor> Is there a database of sha1 and md5 checksums for windows iso? I'm a bit leery of some of the ones shared on p2p
[01:44] <ubuntuser1> reisio, do you have any suggestions?
[01:45] <dr_willis> Tommy34:  no idea off hand. go to lifehacker site and check. or ask in #windows
[01:45] <greylurk> extor: Microsoft keeps the MD5's under wraps for just that reason.
[01:45] <Tommy34> dr_willis: thats exactly right, yoiu wont know cause it dont exist
[01:45] <greylurk> extor: but you could probably find someone in #windows that will help you out.
[01:45] <extor> greylurk, good grief are you serious!
[01:45] <aBound> Gotta love the workspace switcher in Unity.
[01:46] <reisio> ubuntuser1: is it an all-in-one?
[01:46] <dr_willis> Tommy34:  they definatly do. i downloaded and burnt them and have them in my toolbox.
[01:46] <extor> greylurk, I only want to test this Dell iso I downloaded for my precision...so actually MS wouldn't have the checksums most likely
[01:46] <ubuntuser1> reisio, yes
[01:46] <greylurk> extor: That's the impression I got.  If you have an MSDN license, they'll show you the md5s on the download page, but otherwise, you're expected to use the CD's you got.
[01:46] <reisio> ubuntuser1: well that's supported by hplip
[01:46] <Tommy34> dr_willis: if they did, you would provide a link, but you cant cause none exist.
[01:47] <ubuntuser1> reisio,
[01:47] <reisio> ubuntuser1: what Ubuntu version are you on?
[01:47] <greylurk> Tommy34: he's right, I just found them.
[01:47] <debugnet> milo_: this is a new one for me but here it goes, type: python setup.py configure
[01:47] <Tommy34> greylurk: really?link?
[01:47] <ubuntuser1> reisio, 10.04 LTS
[01:47] <greylurk> Tommy34: Try on #windows… They'll be able to point you to them.
[01:47] <dr_willis> Tommy34:  you havent even bothered to look.. i was about to paste the url from lifehacker..but im not going to bother now.
[01:48] <reisio> ubuntuser1: ah, okay
[01:48] <Tommy34> dr_willis: hatred and revenge is never the answer.
[01:48] <reisio> ubuntuser1: you need a slightly newer version of hplip
[01:48] <dr_willis> Tommy34:  neitehr is your attitude
[01:48] <supuers> upgrade your system
[01:48] <reisio> ubuntuser1: 3.10.9 or higher to be specific
[01:48] <extor> greylurk, I downloaded two dell isos and one of them had "custom" work that some smartass had thrown in
[01:48] <Tommy34> dr_willis: so do whats good, and pls give me the link.  Revenge is never healthy or good and achieves nothing. Thank you.
[01:48] <ubuntuser1> reisio, how can I get it?
[01:48] <justice> alas, #hardware is too engrossed in a conversation to help.
[01:48] <HaltingState> i need ubuntu server help; is there a channel
[01:48] <dr_willis> Tommy34:  go to lifehacker web site search for 'windows 7 recovery' like i just did.
[01:48] <Tommy34> dr_willis: im sorry for my attitude, pls forgive me :-)
[01:48] <reisio> ubuntuser1: upgrading to 11.04 or higher would manage it, otherwise you'd have to attempt to use a more recent hplip alone
[01:49] <Tommy34> dr_willis: ok
[01:49] <milo_> debugnet: ok...I see something in the text saying WHEREAREMYFILES
[01:49] <reisio> HaltingState: help with what
[01:49] <greylurk> extor: It's best never to trust commerical software ISOs from a torrent.
[01:49] <milo_> Don't know what that means
[01:49] <Tommy34> dr_willis: you mean ww.lifehacker.com.au?
[01:49] <dr_willis> its just lifehacker.com here
[01:50] <extor> greylurk, well he'd slipstreamed it but this is why I want those md5 or sha sigs
[01:50] <HaltingState>  help; during installation, it hit enter at the screen "install common servers" and did not select lamp/ssh; is there a tool i can run to have those installed or do i have to redo installation or
[01:50] <ubuntuser1> reisio, I tried to upgrade but after updating from the update manager I cannot see the option to do an upgrade. I also tried doing apt-get dist-upgrade but got nothing :(
[01:50] <Tommy34> when I type lifehacker.com it redirects to .ay
[01:50] <Tommy34> .au
[01:50] <debugnet> milo_: btw, i must have come in the middle of this but why are you trying to install wicd?
[01:50] <reisio> greylurk: or trust any ISO, even free ones
[01:50] <ant0neo> got there greylurk: via the responses others got thanks
[01:50] <reisio> why trust when you can check sums
[01:50] <HaltingState> *I hit enter and skipped the screen (i thought enter selected option) *face palm*
[01:50] <hihaatje> reisio: hey, thank you for helping me before with the mouse problem. i tried what you said (remapping the buttons) but this did not seem to fix it.
[01:50] <reisio> ubuntuser1: well that's a problem someone else in the channel will have to help you with
[01:50] <Tommy34> dr_willis: and when I type windows 7 recovery in search box, it finds nothing
[01:51] <reisio> hihaatje: got any other mice?
[01:51] <supuers> it should give you the option or just donwload 11.10 and upgrade from there
[01:51] <ubuntuser1> reisio, thanks
[01:51] <greylurk> HaltingState: You can install each of the requisite packages using "apt-get".  I.e. ssh is "sudo apt-get install openssh-server".  Or look in Ubuntu SoftwareCenter.
[01:51] <dr_willis> Tommy34:  ask about it in  #windows
[01:52] <Tommy34> dr_willis: nobody knows in there
[01:52] <dr_willis> lifehackers right side panel shows the serach hits.. and its acting weirdly in this browser.
[01:52] <hihaatje> reisio: yes, i tried another aswell, but when it was not doing anything but moving, it did not give any response when i used xev
[01:52] <benn1> dr_willis thats rude xD
[01:52] <hihaatje> reisio: so no buttons were registered at all
[01:52] <reisio> hihaatje: interesting
[01:52] <ubuntuser1> can anyone help me upgrading from 10.04 to 11.10? I know I need to go to other versions before 11.10 but after trying to upgrade from terminal I got nothing. I mean that when I do apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade there is nothing to upgrade
[01:52] <Tommy34> dr_willis: it didnt find anything for me in IE when I typed windows 7 recovery
[01:52] <reisio> hihaatje: different model/no. of buttons?
[01:52] <benn1> hey do you know where i can find my temp videos files of ubuntu
[01:52] <benn1> using flash player 11?
[01:52] <benn1> and firefox?
[01:52] <greylurk> reisio: I generally trust the torrents if I grab them from the main site (i.e. ubuntu.com) since the torrent protocol includes better error correction than paltry checksums, but checksums never hurt.
[01:52] <reisio> benn1: why
[01:53] <dr_willis> google first hit for 'lifehacker windows 7 recovery' also finds them it seems
[01:53] <ubuntuser1> I also tried updating everything using the update manager but the option to upgrade does not appear. Any suggestions?
[01:53] <xangua> benn1: you can use one of the various addons to download flash videos
[01:53] <supuers> you may have to go to 11.04 first
[01:53] <Tommy34> dr_willis: whats the direct link please?
[01:53] <reisio> greylurk: well, they work because you get the media from one place and the checksum from another
[01:53] <hihaatje> reisio: my mouse now is the Cyborg R.A.T.5, the other one i tried some crappy trust mouse with 10 buttons
[01:53] <benn1> xangua:not for all players or sites
[01:53] <reisio> hihaatje: okay, have you tried another USB or PS/2 port?
[01:53] <milo_> debugnet: Trying to get my wifi to work. Somebody on here told me they used Wicd. If you know any easier ways, I'm all ears.
[01:53] <benn1> i mean like watchcartoononline
[01:54] <benn1> i want to rip the video
[01:54] <benn1> i can do it in windows
[01:54] <reisio> benn1: do what
[01:54] <benn1> but not in ubuntu....i heard ubuntu can do it using flash 10
[01:54] <hihaatje> yup, i moved my mouse from back to front, and back again, still the same issue
[01:54] <greylurk> Tommy34: is your google broken?
[01:54] <reisio> benn1: http://www.downloadhelper.net/
[01:54] <Tommy34> dr_willis: I think this is the one? http://lifehacker.com/5384714/windows-7-recovery-discs-gets-your-system-out-of-tight-spots
[01:55] <reisio> hihaatje: do you have a file at /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[01:55] <supuers> are u using a wired mouse
[01:55] <milo_> debugnet: I was actually gonna try to reformat my hard drive and put windows back on, but my muon software won't download, I can't figure out the torball files, can't burn an xp disk to reformat, can't get wifi working... you know
[01:55] <debugnet> milo_: could you type: iwconfig
[01:55] <hihaatje> reisio: im going to have to go back into ubuntu to check that. (since i cant do anything on there i have to go to windows to get here)
[01:56] <milo_> debugnet: ok, what info do you want?
[01:56] <kcj> How do I get my system to do nothing when my battery is apparently critical?
[01:56] <hihaatje> reisio: ill be right back
[01:56] <ubuntuser1> reisio, would you recommend upgrading to 12.04?
[01:56] <kcj> I'm on 11.10.
[01:57] <supuers> not out yet
[01:57] <reisio> ubuntuser1: insofar as it would make available to you the hplip version you require
[01:57] <Tommy34> dr_willis: are these files legal? http://cybernetnews.com/windows-7-recovery-disc/
[01:57] <dr_willis> Tommy34:  no idea. ask in #windows
[01:57]  * dr_willis imagines MS would shut them down rather quickly if they were not.
[01:57] <benn1> reisio just tell me you dont know where the temp files go
[01:58] <reisio> benn1: that would be a lie
[01:59] <benn1> then tell me where it goas
[01:59] <reisio> would be a waste of both our time
[02:00] <benn1> no i am learning from you
[02:00] <benn1> i can give you a information about sidefx houdini
[02:00] <ubuntuser1> reisio, thanks
[02:00] <benn1> or anything you dont know
[02:00] <reisio> if I wanted such information I would already have it :p
[02:00] <reisio> it's simplest to use a browser addon
[02:00] <reisio> and failing that, something like rtmpdump
[02:01] <waterDrop> which better Ext3 or Ext4 ?
[02:01] <benn1> your browser addon was awesome
[02:01] <dr_willis> waterDrop:  ext4 is the default these days..
[02:01] <benn1> but
[02:01] <dr_willis> waterDrop:  which works fine for most people.
[02:02] <justice> Am I hosed for having plugged in a gfx card before making sure the thing boots up since I now can't get the damn thing out?
[02:02] <waterDrop> ok thanks dr_willis, i wont hesitated no more
[02:02] <Anamika_> anybody some ideas on live cd
[02:02] <debugnet> milo_: does it list any wlan0 info?
[02:03] <milo_> debugnet: nah, don't see anything that says wlan just eth0, eth1
[02:03] <reisio> Anamika_: shaped like a cow!
[02:04] <waterDrop> could someone recommending me software for formatting Ext4 ?
[02:04] <dr_willis> waterDrop:  mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdXX
[02:04] <bfri> how can switch back to original desktop gnome shell for ubuntu 10.04
[02:04] <dr_willis> waterDrop:  or use gparted..
[02:04] <escott> waterDrop, gparted gui very nice
[02:04] <xangua> bfri: 10.04 lucid uses gnome2, so there is no gnome shell
[02:04] <debugnet> milo_: k. for those two eth0 and eth1 does it list any extra info next to it like IEEE 802.11 etc or no wireless extensions?
[02:04] <escott> !classic | bfri
[02:04] <waterDrop> i'll try it
[02:04] <waterDrop> :)
[02:05] <justice> bfri: that's kind've going away, for annoying stupid political reasons.
[02:05] <Tommy34> dr_willis: how long you been a doctor?
[02:05] <Ryllez89> how i remove the shortcuts in the side of "aplications" and "local" menu on gnome-classic?
[02:05] <waterDrop> thanks by the way
[02:05] <bfri> justice: what is going away?
[02:05] <debugnet> milo_: btw, is the actual wireless device usb or internal?
[02:06] <escott> bfri, gnome2 is no longer supported upstream
[02:06] <milo_> debugnet: eth0 no wireless extensions, eth1 IEEE 802.11 access point:not-associates
[02:06] <bfri> escott what will the effect of that be
[02:06] <debugnet> milo_: good. eth1 is your wireless interface name. that means we can work with this. now comes the hard part...
[02:06] <milo_> debugnet: internal
[02:06] <dr_willis> i wonder if the fallback modes will get removed in the next release.
[02:06] <debugnet> milo_: k
[02:07] <dr_willis> bfri:  basically gnome2 is dead.
[02:07] <justice> bfri: the gnome you're used to. my admittedly hazy understanding is that gnome got an ego and wants to push 3 on everyone, so Cannonical decided to build their own. The old Gnome forked into MATE, but i don't know that it's available in Ubuntu standard right now.
[02:07] <debugnet> milo_: do you know your wireless ssid name that you have setup for your wireless router?
[02:07] <milo_> debugnet: "Now here comes the hard part..." sounds ominous
[02:07] <debugnet> milo_: ;)
[02:07] <milo_> hmmm....
[02:07] <escott> bfri, 11.04 is the last version to have gnome2. you should check the gnome.org and extensions.gnome.org to get a feel for the replacement gnome3 aka gnome-shell
[02:07] <reisio> justice: not exactly
[02:07] <reisio> GNOME got a craving for cardigans
[02:07] <hihaatje> Reiso: I managed to log in from my phone, what file should I be looking for again?
[02:07] <milo_> debugnet: Damn, I took an internet security class a while back. That sounds familiar.
[02:07] <cappicard> hey folks. for some reason, many youtube videos are playing with this annoying blue tint... i'm running ubuntu 11.11
[02:07] <reisio> Canonical, not actually so much in the game of supporting software, embraced it, though with a specific reconfiguration (Unity)
[02:08] <reisio> as for MATE, forking is the easy part
[02:08] <reisio> the test is maintenance
[02:08] <debugnet> milo_: is your wireless router 802.11 a, b, g, and/or n ?
[02:08] <Ryllez89> how i remove the shortcuts in the side of "aplications" and "local" menu on gnome-classic?
[02:08] <reisio> hihaatje: for what?
[02:08] <justice> I did say that it was hazy. Something about GNOME flipping out and Canonical ditching them.
[02:08] <dr_willis> if gnome-shell was a bit more advanced at the time of release... we might of had gnome-shell as the default. :)
[02:08] <bfri> escott justice whats really stopping anyone from just reverting back to gnome 2 and below after the upgrade?
[02:08] <reisio> cappicard: what flash version?
[02:08] <reisio> Unity is "a" gnome shell
[02:08] <reisio> just not upstream's default one
[02:09] <escott> bfri, incompatible abi versions between gtk2 and gtk3. you cannot have both installed
[02:09] <hihaatje> Reiso: for the mouse not registering problem
[02:09] <cappicard> 11.2.202.160
[02:09] <reisio> hihaatje: ah
[02:09] <escott> bfri, at least not enough to be able to have the entire desktop stack working
[02:09] <reisio> hihaatje: oh, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:09] <dr_willis> Them Gnomes are Complex little beasties!
[02:09] <bfri> escott justice thing is i put the mac os gnome shell on but i want it out is there a simple way to revert back?
[02:10] <escott> bfri, i dont know what the "mac os gnome shell" is. but no there is no downgrade path
[02:10] <reisio> cappicard: you might want to revert to version 11.1.102.55
[02:10] <justice> bfri: personally I just tried out, and fell in love with, sudu apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[02:10] <cappicard> but i'm on 64-bit...
[02:10] <debugnet> milo_: if you don't know the answers to those off hand no biggy i can go from here.
[02:10] <reisio> cappicard: 11.2.202.160 is a beta (of software that tends to be buggy already)
[02:10] <reisio> cappicard: so?
[02:10] <cappicard> hrmm...
[02:10] <hihaatje> Reiso: there appears to be no such file
[02:11] <reisio> hihaatje: okay, probably not worth following up anymore, then
[02:11] <dr_willis> bfri:  theres the fallback/failsafe modes.. thats as far  as reverting goes basically.
[02:11] <bfri> escott justice really i dont know if im reffering to this appropriately but basically i made ubuntu look like mac
[02:11] <dr_willis> !fallback
[02:11] <Tommy34> dr_willis: how many hours per week, in general, do you spend in this channel?
[02:11] <dr_willis> Tommy34:  given my znc connection is up whenever my main ubuntu box is on... :) and i can irc from my cellphone at work...  quite a few.
[02:12] <escott> bfri, the new gnome-shell is done completely in javascript. if there is someone with the motivation to make it look like os x then its probably not going to be long until someone does. check extensions.gnome.org
[02:12] <dr_willis> it most likey seems like im here 90% of the time. dependng on the status of my znc server.
[02:12] <dr_willis> even if im not. :)
[02:12] <bfri> escott justice dr_willis thanks guys
[02:13] <Tommy34> dr_willis: :)  you sure have a lot of free time on your hands
[02:14] <dr_willis> The joys of a 'wait for somthing to break and hurry and fix it as fast as you can, and go back to waiting' job...
[02:14] <dr_willis> 7 hrs of boredom, 1 hr of 'is it done yet.....'
[02:16] <debugnet> milo_: type: route -n and send me the ip address for the gateway where the destination is 0.0.0.0
[02:16] <milo_> 192.168.1.1
[02:16] <justice> augh this desktop is driving me insane.. I don't want to have to buy a whole new computer when I have all the parts for one in front of me
[02:16] <hihaatje> What is alt + tab for ubuntu?
[02:16] <escott> justice, what happens after post?
[02:17] <reisio> hihaatje: alt+tab
[02:17] <justice> The screen shows "no signal" and turns off.
[02:17] <debugnet> milo_: k. from firefox (or whatever web browser you are using) enter that into the url and hopefully it connects. if it does, then you are connected to your router.
[02:17] <hihaatje> Snap that isn't working
[02:17] <milo_> Debugnet: the server 192.168.1.1:80 requires a username and password. The server says: E1000
[02:17] <escott> justice, what video card are you running off of?
[02:17] <reisio> justice: always, or after a certain part of booting?
[02:17] <debugnet> milo_: k. have you setup this router before?
[02:18] <dr_willis> justice:  at the grub menu you dont see anything?
[02:18] <justice> right after it posts and gives option to go to bios, etc. no matter what I chose to do or not do
[02:18] <justice> It doesn't even get to the grub menu.
[02:18] <milo_> debugnet: no, a person in the house who's taken a networking class has. But they also tried to setup an unsecured wireless just for me to use. Which you know what that means, they were trying to watch my traffic. So I don't want to ask them any questions.
[02:18] <reisio> justice: how'd you install the OS?
[02:18] <dr_willis> justice:  grub has a option to use a 'text' mode or lower res settings. that ive had to use on some machines.
[02:18] <dr_willis> justice:  but grub would still work.. you just couldent see it.
[02:18] <reisio> milo_: maybe they're just dumb :p
[02:19] <ControllerSYR> ello
[02:19] <milo_> debugnet: just dumb enough to get caught
[02:19] <ControllerSYR> hello
[02:19] <reisio> ControllerSYR: 'lo
[02:19] <justice> it's my old ubuntu box that got dismantled, shipped, then had to get some arts changed out
[02:19] <dr_willis> justice:  i got grub to play a little tune from its config file so im sure grub loaded. :)
[02:19] <reisio> justice: which parts?
[02:19] <ControllerSYR> eny body here
[02:19] <reisio> ControllerSYR: just us chickens
[02:19] <justice> new card is a diamond radeon hd 5450 ati.
[02:19] <reisio> justice: is the monitor plugged into it?
[02:19] <ControllerSYR> ok
[02:19] <milo_> debugnet: they went out of their way to set it up, they know two other people who work IT and I heard them talking about the stuff I was looking at.
[02:20] <ControllerSYR> can eny one here help me
[02:20] <justice> new case, new graphics card, had to get a wireless internet card
[02:20] <reisio> ControllerSYR: not until we know what your problem is
[02:20] <reisio> justice: that does not answer my question
[02:20] <debugnet> milo_: o k... well you can always invest in a vpn to fix that but i digress. how about we do a scan, type: ifconfig eth1 up then type: sudo iwlist eth1 scan
[02:20] <ControllerSYR> wht is it ?
[02:20] <justice> yes. (well not atm because I have it unplugged to examine things)
[02:20] <reisio> ControllerSYR: exactly
[02:20] <milo_> I should make a note of that...vpn
[02:20] <debugnet> milo_: not cool.
[02:20] <reisio> justice: you're sure you plugged it into the new graphics card and not a port from the mobo?
[02:21] <dr_willis> reisio:  :) been there.. done that...
[02:21] <ControllerSYR> my problem is my ubuntu  9.10 dont accept update ?
[02:21] <xangua> !eol | ControllerSYR
[02:21] <milo_> ifconfig eth1 up, SIOCSIFFLAGS: Permission denied
[02:21] <justice> yes, i'm sure. I tried plugging it into the mobo but it didn't show me anything
[02:21] <reisio> dr_willis: :)
[02:21] <ControllerSYR> he tell me there is a problem in network
[02:21] <milo_> degubnet: ifconfig eth1 up, SIOCSIFFLAGS: Permission denied
[02:21] <reisio> justice: okay, what card was it again?
[02:21] <debugnet> milo_: soz, sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[02:21] <justice> new card is a diamond radeon hd 5450 ati.
[02:22] <debugnet> milo_: must be root
[02:22] <justice> the old card was, I forget but it was nvidia
[02:22] <reisio> justice: do you get a signal if you boot from an Ubuntu live image?
[02:23] <justice> Don't think so. I'll have to see what image I actually have on that stick though.
[02:23] <reisio> you really should
[02:23] <reisio> otherwise maybe the PCI slot is damaged
[02:24] <hihaatje> What can I do about ubuntu telling me i do not have enough rights to overwrite something?
[02:24] <reisio> or it's an incredibly obscure (and therefore incredibly poorly supported) device
[02:24] <reisio> hihaatje: sudo
[02:24] <justice> doing that now. I hope the slot isnt damaged, I can't get the card out of it. =(
[02:24] <Resistance> hihaatje:  nothing, because it means that whatever you're trying to overwrite isnt owned by you :P
[02:24] <benn> another and last question..i installed my ubuntu using wubi in windows..And how can i access my windows files using ubuntu
[02:24] <reisio> justice: you can't?
[02:24] <ControllerSYR> ok i understud but is there eny way for update to a new ubuntu
[02:24] <reisio> justice: that's not the best sign that it was put into the slot properly in the first place
[02:25] <reisio> (or alternatively: that it is actually meant for that slot type)
[02:25] <justice> It won't remove with reasonable force. it LOOKS like it fits right, but it acts like it's wedged against the case and won't tilt back to come loose.
[02:26] <milo_> degubnet: ok, I typed sudo before it and it went through it looks like
[02:26] <ControllerSYR> thank you !
[02:26] <dr_willis> benn:  check 'mount' command output.. i belive the windows drives are mounted to some dir /host or somthing like that.
[02:26] <reisio> hard to say without feeling it, kind of a tactile thing
[02:26] <reisio> but generally it shouldn't be that hard to get cards in and out, if they are meant to fit with one another, and were properly connected
[02:26] <justice> It snapped into place without too much trouble, but I tried pulling it to test integrated and no luck.
[02:26] <milo_> debugnet: soz?
[02:26] <reisio> aside from really poorly designed or compact cases that just make it hard, of course
[02:26] <dr_willis> pcie cards have some locking tab ive seen...
[02:27] <reisio> hmmm
[02:27] <dr_willis> at least some do :)
[02:27] <escott> justice, is there a latch at the base of the card? have you released that
[02:27] <dr_willis> or was that agp? i cant rember...
[02:27] <milo_> debugnet: Oh, http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=soz
[02:27] <debugnet> milo_: means sorry
[02:27] <rcmaehl> Compiz randomly restarts on my pc. What could be causing that and is there any info I can provide to you all to help diagnose the problem. Ubuntu 11.10 64-bit
[02:27] <reisio> if it were me, I'd be more confident that the card was inserted properly if I could take it out and put it back in and have it feel the same
[02:27] <escott> dr_willis, i dont think agp had it. i think it started with pci-e
[02:27] <justice> there is a latch, but it doesn't seem to do anything. the card hooks in behind it and does not come straight out.
[02:28] <dr_willis> i just rember that locking tab.. becuase i had a mb with one that was broken.. you couldent unlock it without a screwdriver. :)
[02:28] <dr_willis> I had to push on a tabon the mb slot. to remove the card.
[02:28] <debugnet> milo_: i like how it says 'illiterate' but do it cuz it short, maybe lazy though
[02:28] <reisio> you push it away from the slot
[02:28] <reisio> in the direction of the side the tab is on
[02:28] <reisio> or down, depending
[02:29] <debugnet> milo_: any luck with the scan?
[02:29] <justice> it's on the side of the port on the board.
[02:29] <dr_willis> I havent even opened the case on the new desktop box i bought like 3 mo ago...
[02:29] <blackbox> does anybody know of a site that you can type in a word and it will speak it to you / give you the definition and synonyms? My spelling a pronouncation is terrible. I think being a good speller is linked to being able to pronounce correctly.
[02:29] <dr_willis> :)
[02:29] <reisio> pfft
[02:29] <reisio> honestly
[02:29] <reisio> never even heard of a PCI card falling out
[02:29] <reisio> not sure why they need tabs
[02:29] <FloodBot1> reisio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:29] <reisio> I suppose they could help with bumpy transportation, though
[02:29] <reisio> unfortunately you're beyond that, heh
[02:30] <justice> yeah me either. :p
[02:30] <reisio> FloodBot1: poll speed too slow
[02:30] <sokak> Hi everyone :)
[02:30] <dr_willis> Ive seen some cases that use annoying 'quick locks' for cards instead of actual screws. so ive seen them get loose in the back.. but never fall out where they failed.
[02:30] <milo_> debugnet: nothing came up
[02:30] <reisio> sokak: hiyo
[02:30] <milo_> debugnet: but I didn't get any error messages back
[02:30] <debugnet> milo_: try one or two more times, sometimes they don't come up right away
[02:31] <justice> this has a screw, but I can't pull the side that screws up high enough to release the hook shaped bit on the card.
[02:31] <sokak> question: im on an ancient eeepc 901 (the one with 20gb ssd) and i picked the wrong drive to put on grub. Now the grub rescue is garing at me, what should i do?
[02:31] <milo_> debugnet: meh, nothing doing
[02:31] <dr_willis> Night all...
[02:31] <reisio> sokak: boot up the live media, run grub-install /dev/properdevice
[02:31] <sokak> Nite :D
[02:32] <milo_> debugnet: can my conversation on here be tracked since I'm on a wired connection?!
[02:32] <Pickleface> on 11.10 how do I take something I put on the top bar out?
[02:32] <sokak> thanks reisio, looking to that
[02:32] <reisio> sokak: or possibly https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair if the aforementioned fails
[02:32] <salty> how do i mount a usb hardrive that has been removed from a windows box without unmounting it?
[02:32] <reisio> salty: hrmm?
[02:33] <debugnet> milo_: yep, since it isn't ssl or through vpn or ssh, if they have the tools, they can do it.
[02:33] <Pickleface> reisio: how do I remove something I put on the top bar ? like those clicky button things if you know what I mean
[02:33] <psusi> salty, what?
[02:33] <debugnet> milo_: ask them if they've heard of backtrack...again i digress
[02:33] <reisio> Pickleface: would assume you right-click them
[02:34] <salty> reisio, i copied some files to a windows computer and didn't unmount the drive before removing it... now it doesn't show up in ubuntu
[02:34] <Pickleface> reisio: only launch and property options come up when right clicked.
[02:34] <justice> I dunno, I get the feeling i'll need to unscrew the mobo to get the gfx card out.
[02:34] <milo_> debugnet: fuuuuuu... that sucks. Oh well. Explains why they're in their room so much. Going through my info. Damn it.
[02:34] <sokak> justice, while doing so clean the dissipator with compressed air :) Just prevent the fan spinning :)
[02:35] <psusi> salty, plug it back into windows and chkdsk it
[02:35] <escott> salty, if it is ntfs boot windows and run chkdsk on that drive
[02:35] <psusi> salty, or scandisk
[02:35] <justice> dissipator?
[02:35] <psusi> whatever microsoft is calling it these days
[02:35] <Fizzy> hi..i just installed ubuntu the first time
[02:35] <sokak> salty, it doesnt come up neither in disk management?
[02:35] <salty> i don't have a windows box... it was my little brothers
[02:35] <Fizzy> really loving it was wondering if someone could help me out with some things
[02:35] <salty> let me check
[02:35] <sokak> shoot Fizzy
[02:35] <justice> Fizzy: Like what?
[02:36] <Fizzy> thank you
[02:36] <debugnet> milo_: sucks i know.
[02:36] <Fizzy> so i installed it on my laptop
[02:36] <psusi> salty, then plug it back into your little brother's windows box and chkdsk it
[02:36] <Fizzy> its an asus UL30A
[02:36] <justice> sokak: I cleaned it pretty thoroughly before I started
[02:36] <Fizzy> the fn keys used to control volume and brightness barely seem to work they are super slow!!.. for example i sent the command 5 minutes ago and im still recieving osd of it recieving it
[02:36] <reapingwo> hey can anyone give me a hand in trouble shooting my wireless card?
[02:36] <salty> psusi, that's not possible... i'm sailing in the chesapeake bay
[02:37] <reisio> salty: to be clear, as soon as you plug it in you should get a prompt to check it
[02:37] <debugnet> milo_: no luck with the wifi scan?
[02:37] <Fizzy> i installed ubuntu before and removed it for this reason
[02:37] <milo_> debugnet: nope, hasn't done anything. WPA2 security would be nice...
[02:37] <Fizzy> so thought i would give it a second shot
[02:38] <brophat> is there an email notifier app that comes with 11.10
[02:38] <milo_> debugnet: back in 3, smoke break
[02:38] <debugnet> milo_: k
[02:39] <brophat> can that envelope icon at the top be configured for email notification?
[02:40] <justice> odd.
[02:41] <Fizzy> it does seem weird because i experience no slow down in the system itself
[02:41] <justice> ok, my screwdriver is too short, this is going to need to wait a bit, grmbl.
[02:42] <Fizzy> still getting the OSD of brightness..
[02:42] <fokkle> brophat, here's something someone wrote in python.  Haven't used it myself:  http://arnab.org/blog/evolution-email-notification
[02:42] <justice> fizzy: i'm not sure what would cause that, personally.
[02:43] <Fizzy> any other way i can control brightness?
[02:44] <sokak> wooot reisio, that link was cool!
[02:44] <brophat> fokkle so that envelope app on the top right does do email notification?
[02:44] <reisio> sokak: do the trick?
[02:45] <Pickleface> can anyone help me? I cant remove a button from the top and its really annoying.....
[02:45] <fokkle> brophat, no, sorry, not as far as i know.  I just thought you might want to try the python workaround.
[02:45] <sokak> its working, lets cross fingers :D Using the supergrub disk wasnt an option, im too lazy to plug in the usb cdrom xD
[02:45] <justice> I know there is one, I have to get rid of it a lot since dimming the monitor never seems to work for me.
[02:45] <brophat> fokkle thanks
[02:45] <fokkle> Pickleface, you can't right-click, remove?
[02:45] <justice> not because of anything technical, just because I can't see very well. :?
[02:45] <fokkle> brophat, no prob.
[02:46] <Fizzy> i hate it when the screen is too bright
[02:46] <Fizzy> hurts my eyes.. so whats the way to control it?
[02:46] <reisio> Fizzy: install xcalib, run xcalib -i -a
[02:46] <reisio> or xgamma
[02:46] <justice> yeah, well, I get irritated if turning on my living room light doesn't leave afterimages of people burned into the paint.
[02:46] <reisio> or fix your power management/graphics driver issues
[02:47] <reisio> I use xcalib with a perfectly working display and power system, though
[02:47] <HaltingState> how do i install gui on ubuntu server so i can remote desktop in
[02:47] <reisio> HaltingState: you could just use ssh
[02:47] <HaltingState> reisio, I could
[02:48] <Fizzy> thanks.. im updating software as we speak
[02:48] <Fizzy> hopefully it will do something
[02:48] <HaltingState> reisio, i want to see what remote desktop is like
[02:48] <reisio> HaltingState: it's like adding an enormous ton of software each with its own potential for having a security vulnerability
[02:49] <reisio> HaltingState: that said, the default Ubuntu desktop metapackage is called 'ubuntu-desktop'
[02:49] <sokak> reisio, i owe you a beer!
[02:49] <reisio> sokak: yes you do
[02:49] <reisio> a keg of beer
[02:49] <benn> its not working i tried loging in su then pass..And i dont know how to mount the ntfs to get files in windows
[02:49] <sokak> ill bring a truck of beer reisio, if you live in italy ;P
[02:49] <reisio> benn: do what?
[02:50] <reisio> sokak: if I lived in Italy I would be busy being fawned over by all the hot exploited women there
[02:50] <benn> get files in windows 7 using ubuntu
[02:50] <sokak> reisio, then ill bring you my cousine ;P
[02:50] <TooR4u> Hi .. i want to export my chat history from one gmail account to another email account is that possible?
[02:50] <HaltingState> reisio, security risk?  the password for my user and root account over ssh is "password", but its ok because I have not set port forwarding for SSH on the server yet
[02:50] <reisio> benn: the drive isn't auto-mounted? (check Nautilus, or ls /media/)
[02:50] <reisio> sokak: good man
[02:51] <reisio> TooR4u: ask #web
[02:51] <reisio> HaltingState: :p
[02:51] <debugnet> milo_: unfortunately you will need to talk to your IT friend and have him help with getting the ssid so you can continue from here. i have a feeling he may have turned ssid broadcast off so you can't find it and the password is preventing you from getting it yourself.
[02:51] <milo_> debugnet: ok, thanks for the help
[02:52] <sokak> reisio, ill add another cousine if you can suggest a lightweight replacement for unity :P
[02:52] <reisio> sokak: unity 2d? lubuntu-desktop? (http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde)
[02:52] <sokak> reisio, you made my day u.u
[02:53] <reisio> that's what reisio's are for
[02:53] <benn> reisio tried ls /media. and it says :System Reserved
[02:53] <debugnet> milo_: i can give you this, once you have the ssid type the following: sudo iwconfig eth1 essid {ssid they gave you} and then give it about 5-10 seconds and then type iwconfig eth1 and see if has an access point, if so type sudo dhclient3 eth1 and you are good. if not, you might be out of range.
[02:54] <debugnet> Milos_: oh, your welcome
[02:54] <Milos_> huh?
[02:55] <reapingwo> what does it mean if my connection appears to drop occasionally (firefox stops connection, downloads pause) but ubuntu still says I am connected and I can still ping websites by name?
[02:55] <reapingwo> and to fix my connection, all I need to do is disconnect and reconnect
[02:56] <reapingwo> any ideas on how to start troubleshooting this?
[02:57] <FlavioTrashPunk> tem punk aqui hoje??
[02:57] <reisio> FlavioTrashPunk: #ubuntu-br
[02:58] <kj4> hello i am amazed by ubuntix
[02:58] <kj4> now i hate windows
[02:58] <reisio> kj4: wee
[02:58] <FlavioTrashPunk> reisio, vlw.. tenks
[02:58] <fokkle> reapingwo, what/how is it that you disconnect/reconnect?  Cable, ifdown & up, or what?
[02:58] <kj4> it is so much better, but how is it free?
[02:58] <fokkle> I mean are you plugging it in again?
[02:59] <reapingwo_> sorry I fixed it
[02:59] <reisio> kj4: by its devs not requiring money for it
[02:59] <reapingwo_> I click on the wireless icon and click on the network
[02:59] <benn> reisio you ignored me for the first time
[02:59] <reisio> benn: ?
[02:59] <reapingwo_> it disconnects me and reconnects
[02:59] <kj4> reisio: thank you its devs
[02:59] <fokkle> reapingwo_, that'll do it ;)
[02:59] <benn> reisio:tried ls /media. and it says :System Reserved
[02:59] <reapingwo_> its a wireless connection
[03:00] <reisio> benn: ah
[03:00] <reisio> benn: pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l
[03:00] <kj4> what is an ubuntard?
[03:00] <compitz> hi guys
[03:00] <reisio> kj4: my guess would be it's a pejorative for an ubuntu user/who is not smart
[03:00] <reisio> compitz: hiyo
[03:00] <reapingwo_> fokkle, I was wondering if there was an error log that kept track of network trafic that could point me to the problem
[03:00] <kj4> reisio: oh
[03:00] <bono> hi hi
[03:01] <reapingwo_> Irc stays connected as well
[03:01] <compitz> i need some help cause im most desperate with my blank screen on startuo in 10.4 lucid
[03:01] <reapingwo_> my downloads and webpages just stop loading
[03:01] <reapingwo_> ping also works
[03:01] <reisio> reapingwo_: IRC takes precious little connection
[03:01] <Pickleface> fokkle: no
[03:01] <vekin> should 11.10 live be able to see sata ahci ssd?
[03:01] <fokkle> reapingwo_, i'm not sure the best place to look but you can start with "dmesg tail"
[03:01] <Pickleface> fokkle: the only options I have are launch and properties
[03:01] <sokak> reisio, im having random weird lines once in a while on login screen. What i should pick for updated intel drivers, the xswat ppa or what else?
[03:02] <vekin> nevermind
[03:02] <fokkle> or look at /var/log/syslog....
[03:02] <reisio> sokak: dunno, haven't used intel in some time
[03:02] <compitz> i need some help cause im most desperate with my BLACK screen on startup on 10.4 lucid
[03:02] <sokak> reisio, ty anyway :)
[03:02] <reapingwo_> would a search for the connection name (i.e. wlan0) in syslog yield useful results?
[03:03] <fokkle> Pickleface: strange, i can't reproduce that, even when i lock the launcher...
[03:03] <Pickleface> fokkle: erm well I'm using 11.10 with the gnome theme ?
[03:04] <Pickleface> fokkle: I'm talking about the top bar where you can make little buttons if that makes sense ?
[03:04] <fokkle> reapingwo_, you can try it, maybe "cat syslog | grep wlan"
[03:04] <Pickleface> fokkle: shall I screenshot ?
[03:04] <fokkle> Pickleface: i know what you mean but i'm not sure the screen shot would help.  remove doesn't appear, right?  not just grayed out?
[03:05] <Pickleface> fokkle: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/859/screenshotat20111229220.png/ if it does help, erm yeah I dont see remove...
[03:05] <reapingwo_> fokkle, thanks for that command, one of the linux commands I knew about but not how to use :D
[03:05] <kj4> was ubuntu made from zeros and ones also?
[03:06] <reapingwo_> should I put that in pastebin for people to read?
[03:06] <Pickleface> fokkle: the bar where filezilla and firefox is , erm..I only see launch and properties :S
[03:07] <compitz> can somesone help? i need to get a terminal on startup but my display is shut down
[03:07] <fokkle> Pickleface: beats me.  try a reboot?
[03:08] <Pickleface> fokkle: okay
[03:08] <c_smith> compitz, have you tried ctrl+alt+f2 ?
[03:08] <fokkle> kj4: there were a few 3s and 4s thrown in to make it interesting.
[03:08] <kj4> fokkle: oh man, thats probably why it's so much better
[03:08] <fokkle> reapingwo_, sure lets have a look.
[03:08] <kj4> fokkle: i think thats how my 4G phone works too
[03:09] <fokkle> kj4:  that's right.  enjoy the goodness.
[03:09] <reapingwo_> fokkle, I think some of it got cut short how do I grab all of it?
[03:09] <compitz> c_smith, yes i did, i aslo tried f6, other f-keys, e and held shift, no matter what i type screen stay black
[03:09] <reapingwo_> too long to print all in the terminal
[03:09] <c_smith> hmmmmm, then it could be either your monitor is shot, or you GPU is shot.
[03:10] <c_smith> compitz, that was at you.
[03:10] <fokkle> reapingwo_, try this:  "cat syslog | grep wlan0 > ~/Desktop/syslog.txt
[03:10] <fokkle> reapingwo_, that should get you a file you can copy/paste from.
[03:10] <Ra_> is there a fix for a tied up cpu?
[03:11] <reapingwo_> thanks again for the new commands fokkle, I am taking notes :D
[03:11] <c_smith> Ra_, short of doing a hard reboot, I don't believe so.
[03:11] <c_smith> Ra_, but I could be wrong.
[03:11] <compitz> c_smith, its a graphics driver problem, i deleted nvdia to try the open source one, then it turned out 10.4 lucid had a bug with the grub, a solution described in http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/securitymonkey/black-screen-on-boot-with-ubuntu-104-lucid-lynx-solution-38426
[03:11] <Ra_> thx
[03:12] <reapingwo_> http://pastebin.com/A2iuZNxw
[03:12] <c_smith> compitz, then you may need to do a fresh install, as it looks ike something went very wrong.
[03:13] <compitz> c_smith, now i edited grub manually to "nomedeset" in the mounted hd, but i couldnt run update-grub , because on my encrypted hd, because  it was the live-cd-terminal
[03:14] <compitz> c_smith grub to "nomodeset"
[03:14] <Youngfun> hi all
[03:15] <c_smith> compitz, I don't know what to say, if you're having problems doing update-grub, I don't know what to suggest short of reinstalling Ubuntu, as update-grub is my only other option for fixing that.
[03:15] <hamed> hi can any know how can i switch from xfce to unity
[03:15] <compitz> now the big question, c_smith, is how i can run update-grub without a terminal on startup
[03:15] <c_smith> hamed, you can run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and keep the xfce as an alternative.
[03:16] <compitz> c_smith, can i mount the hd and pretend im root so i can run it?
[03:16] <reapingwo_> not to be impatient but just wanted to make sure fokkle saw this
[03:16] <reapingwo_> http://pastebin.com/A2iuZNxw
[03:17] <c_smith> compitz, impossible to run a terminal on startup without know whether it actually started. and can't run it from grub, but GRUB2 DOES have a built-in command editor.
[03:17] <c_smith> compitz, do you see GRUB at the start?
[03:17] <fokkle> reapingwo_:  i'm looking at it and i see the ip-config unavailable, just not sure what to make of it yet.
[03:17] <hamed> thank you very much
[03:17] <fokkle> reapingwo_, there are other references online...
[03:17] <c_smith> hamed, no prob
[03:18] <fokkle> reapingwo_,  but not sure the culprit.  could be network manager but i hate to say reinstall when i don't know for sure yet.  let me look a little more..
[03:18] <compitz> c_smith, all i see is my screen going black, like when i shut down my pc
[03:18] <compitz> c_smith, what do you mean by GRUB?
[03:18] <c_smith> compitz, GRUB is the bootloader.
[03:18] <kj4> i thought it was lunch
[03:18] <diegoviola> OMG, GRUB2 loopback feature is so COOL
[03:18] <compitz> c_smith, yes i do
[03:19] <diegoviola> anyone tried it?
[03:19] <reisio> diegoviola: heh
[03:19] <c_smith> compitz, gimme a second, gonna see if I can get the button you press to halt the bootup.
[03:19] <diegoviola> relurk: xD
[03:19] <diegoviola> err
[03:19] <compitz> c_smith, ok, thx. i also see lucid loading, but when it should come to the welcome screen, or just before, it shuts down
[03:20] <c_smith> compitz, Lucid is 10.10, correct?
[03:20] <compitz> c_smith , 10.4
[03:20] <reapingwo_> fokkle, To warn you I was also having similar trouble with windows 7.  But they said it was windows update sending malformed ARP packets that was causing errors on my router.  Turning off windows update and factory resetting the router fixed it however.
[03:20] <c_smith> compitz, ah, ok, LTS ftw, eh?
[03:21] <reapingwo_> perhaps its a hardware problem with the network adapter?
[03:21] <compitz> c_smith, yeah i like it
[03:21] <Youngfun> hi everyone
[03:21] <Youngfun> I'm new on Ubuntu
[03:21] <compitz> hi Youngfun
[03:21] <fokkle> reapingwo_, could be.  but do you have this issue at other wireless aps?
[03:21] <fokkle> reapingwo_, also are you by any chance running kde?
[03:22] <compitz> welcome, Youngfun^^
[03:22] <reapingwo_> I only have the one router, but everything else connects to it fine including a couple mac books and my android phone
[03:22] <c_smith> compitz, ok, try pressing esc as soon as you see GRUB, you should be able to edit the bootup command from there with the "e" key.
[03:22] <reapingwo_> I have just vanilla ubuntu 11.10
[03:22] <Youngfun> I have Ubuntu 11.10 installed on VM Parallels Desktop (Mac host), but cannot install parallels tools... somebody knows about Parallels Desktop?
[03:23] <kj4> xubuntu is awesome
[03:23] <c_smith> compitz, this would only be temporary I believe, so run the commands you intend to after you get in.
[03:23] <compitz> c_smith, im a newb. what does screen say when i see GRUB?
[03:23] <sokak> Anyone happened to plug in an usb thumbdrive, just to see that its seen in the disk management, but says "No medium inserted" (as it was just a flash card reader?)
[03:23] <compitz> c_smith, circa?
[03:23] <fokkle> reapingwo_, ok, do you want to try reinstalling network manager?  it is known to be problematic....
[03:23] <c_smith> compitz, it's the short purple screen just after the BIOS screen.
[03:24] <Youngfun> maybe it's better if I ask Parallels support....
[03:24] <compitz> esc, damn havent tried this
[03:24] <fokkle> reapingwo_, i'm just more inclined to blame netman than the nic.
[03:24] <compitz> c_smith, esc, damn havent tried this
[03:24] <c_smith> compitz, and the BIOS usually has the manufacturer logo of the mainboard/PC.
[03:24] <c_smith> compitz, not surprising, it's easily overlooked.
[03:24] <kj4> xubuntu users differ from ubuntu users
[03:25] <c_smith> compitz, and it's not too well known with new linux users.
[03:25] <paulsomebody> Hello, sentient life forms. Can anyone tell me from experience if CompizConfig manager still ruins desktops when ran as of version 11.10?
[03:25] <compitz> ah k, so grub says ubuntu and i see some glistening dots? c_smith?
[03:25] <Pickleface> erm rebooting dident work
[03:25] <Youngfun> what's xubuntu? ubuntu with xfce?
[03:25] <c_smith> is there a timer?
[03:25] <Pickleface> how do I remove a icon from the top bar ? I dont see a delete button only launch and properties
[03:25] <paulsomebody> compitz: Maybe you would know, judging from the nickname?
[03:25] <compitz> c_smith, when loading the os?
[03:25] <almoxarife> reapingwo_: it may be one of two things, weak signal from the place you want to connect to, or you receiving is crap
[03:25] <ironfoot495> Hi I'm having a problem with screen resolution  it will display a dell 19" but not my 37"akia?
[03:25] <LucidGuy> email/postfix people around? simple question..  In regards to security, the main conf options to have correct would be mynetworks= ?  This is where you can allow networks to relay off of you..?
[03:25] <c_smith> compitz, a timer anywhere
[03:25] <c_smith> if not, just press e
[03:26] <compitz> c_smith, timer?
[03:26] <OerHeks> paulsomebody, yes offcourse it ruin your desktop, mine not however
[03:26] <reapingwo_> fokkle, I do have another wireless adapter which got better reception on win7 but I need to ndiswrapper the drivers, looking it up now
[03:26] <compitz> paulsomebody, did you mean me?
[03:26] <fokkle> almoxarife: maybe you can make something of this.  it's from his syslog:  http://pastebin.com/A2iuZNxw
[03:26] <c_smith> compitz, from you not knowing tells me there isn't, it's a timer ticking down to loading the selected OS.
[03:26] <ironfoot495> can someone help me with this???
[03:26] <paulsomebody> OerHeks: I do not think I understood you quite well. You do not use Unity?
[03:26] <paulsomebody> compitz: Yes, that was a joke.
[03:27] <c_smith> compitz, just press "e"
[03:27] <xangua> paulsomebody: if yoy move things you should not, yes; you can always reset unity
[03:27] <OerHeks> unity runs fine
[03:27] <Youngfun> i hate the GUI of ubuntu 11.10
[03:27] <ironfoot495> I've changed the grub file to 1024x768 but when it boots it comes back with not support?
[03:27] <OerHeks> unity runs better with a SSD
[03:27] <compitz> c_smith, when I see the loading screen? (=GRUB) do i get this right?
[03:27] <Youngfun> maybe kubuntu has a better GUI?
[03:27] <michalchik> What is unity?
[03:28] <c_smith> compitz, yes.
[03:28] <compitz> paulsomebody, didnt get it
[03:28] <ironfoot495> but it see the 19" great!
[03:28] <c_smith> compitz, that's the GRUB I am talking about.
[03:28] <compitz> c_smith, thx a lot, ill try
[03:28] <almoxarife> fokkle: you want to give me a line number of the paste that you are most concerned about?
[03:28] <fokkle> michalchik:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_%28user_interface%29
[03:28] <paulsomebody> OerHeks: xangua: No, I did not mean that. I have read reports that merely running CompizConfig as of 11.10 may corrupt some config files and make X impossible to start. Is this true in your, or anyone else's experience?
[03:28] <urlin2u> michalchik, a desktop
[03:28] <c_smith> compitz, no prob, let me know if you need more help with editing the command.
[03:29] <compitz> c_smith sry for asking twice
[03:29] <paulsomebody> compitz: I have a question about Compiz, you nickname is 'compitz'; I though it was a nice pun.
[03:29] <ironfoot495> I've also install the proprietary driver and still no sucess.
[03:29] <michalchik> I have a weird problem that I thinkis Ubuntu realted.
[03:29] <urlin2u> paulsomebody, you can mess with compiz but find a web link it will look like its broke when you start clicking stuff.
[03:29] <compitz> c_smith, i hope sudo update-grub is enough to gimme som light
[03:29] <[[webrat]]> any updates?
[03:29] <[[webrat]]> yes i have the same issues
[03:29] <michalchik> I just added the text to voice addon to firefox
[03:29] <paulsomebody> urlin2u: Okay.
[03:29] <fokkle> almoxarife, take a look at 63--ipconfig unavailable...
[03:30] <[[webrat]]> i got this machine not working with the latest compiz
[03:30] <[[webrat]]> x64 arch
[03:30] <compitz> paulsomebody, like mingling what two words^^?
[03:30] <michalchik> It is activated by pushingthe button in the bootom bar of the firefox window
[03:30] <c_smith> compitz, I wouldn't run that in GRUB, just edit it with the lines you need to get it running.
[03:30] <rcmaehl> Compiz randomly dies on my pc. Is there any info I can give to help diagnose the problem? Ubuntu 11.10 64-bit
[03:30] <paulsomebody> compiz: Yes, like that. Never mind.
[03:30] <c_smith> compitz, and then run update grub when you login in a terminal.
[03:30] <michalchik> but the version of firefox that came with ubunto does not sem to have a bottom bar
[03:31] <fokkle> almoxarife: take a look at line 63--"ip-config-unavailble"
[03:31] <fokkle> almoxarife, sorry, double post...
[03:31] <almoxarife> fokkle:  herpanet-g <-- tell me about it? yours? hotspot? you control it?
[03:31] <compitz> c_smith, the intended line is already edited: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=”quiet splash” Replaced with: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=”nomodeset>”, like http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/
[03:32] <compitz> c_smith, like http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/ told me
[03:32] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[03:32] <c_smith> compitz, then it should run properly after you start it up.
[03:32] <fokkle> almoxarife:  no, it would be reapingwo_'s.  his ap, i guess.
[03:32] <fokkle> reapingwo_:  you still with us?
[03:32] <compitz> c_smith , it doesnt. i suppose because i could run update-grub
[03:33] <Pickleface> how do I remove a icon from the top bar ? I dont see a delete button only launch and properties
[03:33] <c_smith> compitz, you edited it from GRUB directly. try booting up, and let me know what happens.
[03:33] <compitz> c_smith , it doesnt. i suppose because i could NOT run update-grub
[03:33] <Pickleface> fokkle: reboot did not help
[03:34] <michalchik> Does anyone know why this version of firefox doesn't have a bottom bar?
[03:34] <fokkle> Pickleface: not sure what to suggest, then.  you could try booting to console, then remove, reinstall the desktop maybe.
[03:34] <compitz> c_smith, didnt edit anything from GRUB directly, what would that be?
[03:34] <Pickleface> fokkle: would reinstalling the theme do it ?
[03:34] <urlin2u> michalchik, right cloick the top bar then addon bar
[03:35] <urlin2u> click
[03:35] <fokkle> Pickleface: i wouldn't think so.  i don't think the theme has any influence on whether you can remove a launcher from the panel.
[03:35] <fokkle> Pickleface: but give me a minute.  let me see if there's another way to edit the launchers there.
[03:36] <[[webrat]]> any news with the latest compiz? i still haven't got the issue resolved aftering installing it on my latest machine
[03:36] <michalchik> right clicking the top bar does not seem to do anything.
[03:36] <[[webrat]]> i got this asus and the compiz effects is having some issues loading
[03:36] <c_smith> compitz, that would be editing the command while in GRUB using the "e" key
[03:36] <compitz> c_smith, do you get it, or dont i ?
[03:36] <c_smith> compitz, get what?
[03:36] <compitz> c_smith, sry
[03:37] <Pickleface> fokkle: okay
[03:37] <compitz> c_smith, i guess editing the commandline is not necessary anymore, cause i did that on the hd?
[03:37] <michalchik> OK found it
[03:37] <c_smith> possibly.
[03:37] <michalchik> Second from the top bar, selct addon bar
[03:37] <c_smith> did booting up work?
[03:37] <michalchik> Thanks
[03:38] <compitz> c_smith, i havent tried, you confused me a little, dont wanna do anything wrong here
[03:38] <reapingwo_> fokkle, sorry about that I am writing a letter at the same time as I do this lol, has to be in the post tomorrow hence my distraction
[03:39] <c_smith> compitz, ok, try continuing to boot up into Ubuntu and see if it works.
[03:39] <c_smith> compitz, let me know the result.
[03:40] <compitz> c_smith, when i get a terminal you said you wouldnt run update-grub; say there will be a terminal, what am i suppossed to do?
[03:40] <Duker> Anyone know how to solve the overscan issue when using intel hd graphics 3000 with an hdmi out?
[03:41] <c_smith> compitz, no, I said I wouldn't recommend using that as a boot param, it was a misunderstanding on my part.
[03:41] <c_smith> compitz, go ahead and run it when you get in.
[03:41] <reapingwo_> herpanet-g is my e3200 cisco-linksys router
[03:42] <compitz> c_smith, and by "boot param", you mean an entry in the grub file?
[03:42] <reapingwo_> its dual band the -g denotes 2.4 ghz band
[03:42] <c_smith> compitz, yes.
[03:42] <paulsomebody> urlin2u: OerHeks: Okay, I have found the report of the issue I was talking about. http://askubuntu.com/questions/66079/compiz-crash-means-launcher-and-almost-everything-else-has-disappeared-from-desk
[03:42] <fokkle> Pickleface: you're on ubuntu 11.10?  this is unity?
[03:42] <c_smith> compitz, but run the update-grub command in a terminal when you boot up just to be safe.
[03:42] <reapingwo_> I started a RMA with cisco because of the original problem on win7 but since turning off windows update it seems to have been fixed
[03:43] <paulsomebody> urlin2u: OerHeks: Now, let's see if it affects me. :)
[03:43] <c_smith> compitz, did it boot up?
[03:43] <compitz> c_smith, ahhhhh ok. Finally clear to relaunch now. thx for yor patience withme
[03:43] <reapingwo_> windows 7 was sending malformed arp packets causing the router to keep on handing me escalating ip addresses
[03:43] <c_smith> compitz, no prob,
[03:43] <Pickleface> fokkle: yeah I switched it to gnome.
[03:43] <reapingwo_> which then used up all available addresses
[03:44] <reapingwo_> atleast thats what some guy on the internet told me ;)
[03:44] <compitz> c_smith , ill see, this will take some minutes, if it wont work, itll take like 15 mins, till im back
[03:44] <c_smith> compitz, ok
[03:44] <compitz> c_smith, anyway thanks, ill try now^^
[03:44] <c_smith> compitz, like I said, no prob
[03:44] <urlin2u> paulsomebody, to be honest it works fine for the cube and other plugins you just have to know what to do, how to restart it when it goes south while tweaking, find a web page that tells you how to do it.
[03:45] <fokkle> Pickleface: well hell, I want to find an easier fix here, but I'm coming up empty.  don't know what to suggest but remove, reinstall.
[03:46] <Pickleface> fokkle: reinstall the whole OS ?
[03:46] <fokkle> reapingwo_: that's crazy.  i understand it, but that's crazy.
[03:46] <paulsomebody> urlin2u: Common sense and sanity is implied and necessary, but is not at all what I was talking about. Read the link I sent you — CompizConfig sometimes automatically disables the Unity plugin when you first run it. :) No user action necessary.
[03:46] <fokkle> reapingwo_: i once had a dsl modem/router that would only hand out one ip address on dhcp, which is worse but only a little.
[03:47] <fokkle> Pickleface: oh hell no.  just the desktop.
[03:47] <cjs> Why do we have a package that installs /usr/bin/ruby1.9.1 instead of ruby1.9?
[03:47] <fokkle> Pickleface: let me check the command but I think it should be "apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop" but let me check...
[03:47] <cjs> Is that a standard Debian thing? What about compatability with, say, CentOS systems?
[03:47] <urlin2u> paulsomebody, never experienced that and I have been using it for a couple of years. Just from a quick look it seemed like users who just are a bit noobish .
[03:47] <reapingwo_> fokkle, part of installing ubuntu was to make sure the problem is software and not the router itself
[03:47] <Pickleface> fokkle: okay, thanks
[03:48] <reapingwo_> because it is out of warranty but they said its a hardware defect so they will honor the rma
[03:49] <fokkle> reapingwo_:  ah, i see.  i assume you've already been through the routers dhcp settings--range to assign, etc.
[03:49] <fokkle> reapingwo_: especially the lease time....
[03:49] <reapingwo_> fokkle, yeah, although I just did a factory reset, but everything looked right
[03:50] <paulsomebody> urlin2u: This is generally true, but not I don't think this is the case right now. I have read it happen to not-so-noobish users as well.
[03:50] <fokkle> reapingwo_: hmm.
[03:50] <paulsomebody> urlin2u: Anyway, I have ran CCSM and it did not kill anything just yet. :)
[03:51] <reapingwo_> lease time is at 24 hours
[03:51] <fokkle> reapingwo_: someone brought up signal strength.  any chance you could be competing on the same channel with near neighbors, maybe switch the router to another?
[03:51] <fokkle> reapingwo_, or are you pretty sure that this is dhcp?
[03:52] <xubuntu> help, how do i make all new windows open at the center?
[03:52] <Pickleface> fokkle: find out the cammond ?
[03:52] <reapingwo_> well it was dhcp with win 7, whats the ubuntu version of inSSIDer?
[03:52] <reapingwo_> or whatever lets me see which networks are on which channels
[03:54] <lalagirl> hi
[03:55] <lalagirl> is anyone alive?
[03:55] <DrPenguin> im kinda alive
[03:55] <paulsomebody> !ask | lalagirl
[03:55] <vmangudi`> looks like abt 6 billion are alive
[03:56] <fokkle> Pickleface:  i think you'll remove gnome with "apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop" but I'd like to be sure.  I'm on an earlier version so gnome is default and that would be right.  but I'm not sure how it is after unity is default.
[03:56] <fokkle> Pickleface: i just don't want to steer you wrong....
[03:56] <lalagirl> Okay, so I have a question. Now I have an Ubuntu computer, but I can't seem to connect to it from outside my local network.
[03:56] <paulsomebody> lalagirl: vmangudi`: And that number is steadily growing at the rate that have spawned concerns about overpopulation.
[03:56] <lalagirl> paulsomebody that's really nice
[03:57] <DrPenguin> lalagirl: so your trying to remote into it?
[03:57] <paulsomebody> lalagirl: What are you using to connect to it?
[03:57] <Siph0n> When I visit a webpage that isn't up, it just keeps clocking, trying to connect to it... This happens in firefox and chrome in ubuntu.... So i dont think it is browser related. It does not happen in windows 7 firefox (gives connection reset error). Does anyone know how to get ubuntu (or firefox) to stop trying after a time?
[03:57] <lalagirl> DrPenguin paulsomebody: I'm trying to connect to it as in… like...
[03:57] <DrPenguin> lalagirl: we need to know the protocol
[03:57] <lalagirl> DrPenguin paulsomebody: go to a website and connect to it
[03:58] <DrPenguin> like telnet.. ssh... etc
[03:58] <paulsomebody> DrPenguin: lalagirl: Are you trying to open a folder share?
[03:58] <lalagirl> DrPenguin ssh … anything
[03:58] <Corey> lalagirl: Did you forward ports to it?
[03:58] <vmangudi`> lalagirl: tried pinging it from another computer?
[03:58] <lalagirl> i opened the whole DMZ
[03:58] <Corey> lalagirl: Can you access it from the LAN?
[03:59] <DrPenguin> Corey: port forwarding shouldnt be needed if shes accessing it locally
[03:59] <fokkle> Pickleface:  do this.  login to unity desktop> go to software center> search gnome-shell > select remove.  that should remove it safely.
[03:59] <lalagirl> DrPenguin I want to access it outside my local network
[03:59] <Pickleface> fokkle: how do I login to unity desktop ?
[03:59] <lalagirl> DrPenguin I want it to work outside my local network
[04:00] <lalagirl> DrPenguin but it doesn't conenct
[04:00] <DrPenguin> ah, I misread
[04:00] <lalagirl> connect*
[04:00] <DrPenguin> yeah you gotta port forward
[04:00] <fokkle> Pickleface: log out of your desktop session, then when you log in again, select unity from a dropdown box that should appear along the bottom of the screen.
[04:00] <lalagirl> But I already opened all of the ports already! I opened the whole DMZ
[04:00] <Pickleface> ah ok
[04:00] <DrPenguin> opening ports and forwarding ports arent the same
[04:01] <DrPenguin> when you forward a port, the request goes from your external ip to the local ip that the port is being forwarded to
[04:01] <lalagirl> DrPenguin okay, let me clarify… i've opened and forwarded all the ports
[04:01] <DrPenguin> are you forwarding to the right local ip?
[04:01] <lalagirl> i can ssh inside my local network but i can't outside it for some reason
[04:01] <lalagirl> i can't even visit my own website
[04:02] <lalagirl> outside the network
[04:02] <Corey> lalagirl: Residential IP?
[04:02] <lalagirl> and yes, it is to the right ip
[04:02] <Corey> lalagirl: Sure they're not filtering 22 inbound/
[04:02] <Corey> ?
[04:02] <lalagirl> Corey what do you mean by "residential IP"?
[04:02] <Corey> lalagirl: That question means "yes, you're on a residential IP."
[04:02] <Corey> Check with your provider, they may be filtering port 22.
[04:03] <lalagirl> Corey my ISP?
[04:03] <Corey> As a part of their "no servers" policy.
[04:03] <Corey> Imagine that.
[04:03] <lalagirl> Corey omg its the ISP all along?!?!?
[04:03] <Corey> lalagirl: Possibly. Try binding to an alternate (high) port and see if the problem goes away.
[04:03] <Chr|s> I am having issues with waking my my computer after I am away for 20 minutes. Clean install  ubuntu 11.10
[04:04] <thechris> Anyone know how to get a usb wifi adapter to work in linux
[04:04] <lalagirl> Corey how would i be able to do that?
[04:04] <thechris> it is dual band, and doesn't show any AP's
[04:04] <thechris> Both my roku and laptop (also dual-band) have no issue finding the AP, which is about 2m away
[04:05] <fokkle> Pickleface:  take a look at this: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xTketT17548/Tc3r18TqTDI/AAAAAAAAAIk/pqVSSnyEDcI/s1600/regular-ubuntu11.04-desktop.png   You should have some kind of choice there between the 2 desktop environments you have installed and should be able to choose unity vs gnome.
[04:05] <Corey> thechris: Is the driver being detected? Check dmesg.
[04:05] <Pickleface_> fokkle: yep, im on unity now
[04:05] <thechris> Corey: the driver is detected, and iwconfig shows a wlan0
[04:05] <Pickleface_> fokkle: how do I uninstall the gnome ?
[04:05] <Corey> thechris: What chipset?
[04:05] <Pickleface_> I forgot the intructions you gave me earliar XD
[04:05] <fokkle> Pickleface: go to Applications>software center.
[04:06] <vmangudi`> lalagirl: change the ssh port in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[04:06] <thechris> It appears to be a ralink based chipset
[04:06] <superuser> I haven't gotten support yet so I'm reasking as it has be a reasonable amount of time since I last asked.
[04:06] <superuser> Compiz randomly dies on my pc. Is there any info I can give to help diagnose the problem? Ubuntu 11.10 64-bit. My GPU is a Nvidia Geforce 440 (fermi).
[04:06] <fokkle> Pickleface: then type "gnome desktop"
[04:06] <Corey> !wifi
[04:06] <Corey> Whee.
[04:06] <ok_wait> msg nickserv identify manager23
[04:06] <ok_wait> nice
[04:07] <share> nice lol.
[04:07] <ok_wait> lol
[04:07] <lalagirl> are you sure changine the ssh port will allow me to connect to it?
[04:07] <share> ok_wait: go to #freenode
[04:07] <share> ;)
[04:07] <thechris> Corey: be more specific
[04:07] <fokkle> Pickleface:  you should see it somewhere on the list of results, marked as installed.
[04:07] <Hakase> oh wow
[04:07] <Hakase> I knew someone was going to do that
[04:07] <lalagirl> because its not only about ssh… it's about connecting to the server and having it load the webpage
[04:07] <urlin2u> superuser, have you tweaked compiz, and if there any other specificities post them.
[04:07] <vmangudi`> lalagirl: if your ISP is blocking port 22, they might allow the higher port. am not sure, but can try
[04:08] <Hakase> that's why it's not a good idea to accidentally type in your nickserv password into an IRC channel with like
[04:08] <Hakase> almost 1400 people in it
[04:08] <vmangudi`> lalagirl: well, they could be blocking port 80 as well
[04:08] <lalagirl> why are they doing this to me??!?!?!
[04:08] <vmangudi`> lalagirl: pbly nothing personal
[04:10] <lalagirl> hey it seems like my ISP is blocking the ports.....
[04:10] <lalagirl> OMG I'm so angry now...
[04:10] <lalagirl> it says it in http://www.optimum.net/Terms
[04:10] <lalagirl> if you scroll down to 22. Aditional Restrictions
[04:10] <Corey> lalagirl: Okay then.
[04:10] <thechris> Anyone know how to get a wifi connection set up using the command line
[04:10] <DrPenguin> glad comcast doesnt block me..
[04:10] <Pickleface_> fokkle: I dont see the gnome theme
[04:10] <alejandro> how do you view all hidden files in kubuntu?
[04:11] <lalagirl> it says that "Users may not run any type of server on the system. This includes but is not limited to FTP, IRC, SMTP, POP, HTTP, SOCKS, SQUID, DNS or any multi-user forums;" and "Users may not register or point a domain, sub-domain, or hostname to any Optimum Online IP address. Moreover, Users may not have traffic redirected to the Optimum Online Service;"
[04:11] <DrPenguin> ls -a will list hidden files
[04:11] <Corey> lalagirl: This is no longer a Ubuntu issue. :-)
[04:11] <lalagirl> hey i have a question…..................
[04:12] <Corey> !ask | lalagirl
[04:12] <lalagirl> if I get Optimum Online Boost or whatever it says "Users may not run any servers except for a webserver (HTTP) and mail (SMTP) on the system. This includes but is not limited to FTP, IRC, POP, SOCKS, SQUID, DNS or any multi-user forums." does that mean that i can't access FTP?
[04:12] <A|i3N> What do I need to install to get an older gravis PC GamePad to work under Ubuntu? It's using the radio shack USP adapter.
[04:13] <DrPenguin> lalagirl: you can access one that your not hosting
[04:13] <vmangudi`> lalagirl: you can access FTP *from* optimum online. But you cannot run a FTP server.
[04:13] <fokkle> Pickleface_: try searching "ubuntu desktop system"  but if/when you find it, click on more info to try to see whether that's gnome.
[04:13] <lalagirl> OMG this is even more frustrating.
[04:13] <lalagirl> all i ever wanted was to run my own server......
[04:13] <edbian> lalagirl, if you want to run an ftp server just set it up on a non-standard port
[04:13] <ok_wait> why would gnome-tweak-tool only change the window title font but not any of the others? i'm using oneiric with gnome-shell
[04:14] <lalagirl> like?
[04:14] <alejandro> how do i list all hidden files on Dolphin file manager?
[04:14] <edbian> lalagirl, 3000
[04:14] <vmangudi`> lalagirl: looks like you can run a http server
[04:14] <Pickleface_> fokkle: dont see it..
[04:14] <edbian> lalagirl, yeah, or set it up on port 80
[04:14] <share> Should I worry? http://i.imgur.com/B9rGZ.png http://i.imgur.com/Whspz.png Can I fix it?
[04:14] <edbian> lalagirl, that's guaranteed to work
[04:14] <ok_wait> Defualt font, Document font and Monospace font
[04:16] <alejandro> how do i list all hidden files on Dolphin file manager?
[04:17] <fokkle> Pickleface_: then try at the command line "sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop"  that should remove the desktop, though you might find yourself at console afterward.  if so, just issue this command "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"  then at least you can get back to where you were.  and you can try changing the panel again.
[04:17] <ubuntufreak> Hi i am having issue with my Ubuntu 11.10 installation, my unity does not work and on issuing the 'unity --reset' command i get the following message  http://paste.ubuntu.com/787497/
[04:18] <urlin2u> ubuntufreak, you don't use sudo
[04:18] <ubuntufreak> urlin2u, the same message is shown without sudo too
[04:20] <urlin2u> ubuntufreak, have you run unity -reset the rebooted?
[04:20] <urlin2u> then
[04:21] <ubuntufreak> urlin2u, no should i reboot after running the command ?
[04:21] <A|i3N> ok let me rephrase my question. I just figured out my gamepad works just fine. IS there a way to use it in a browser such as on a retro gaming site. lol
[04:21] <lalagirl> hi I'm back.
[04:22] <KinGDaViD63> what up what up peeps
[04:22] <edbian> A|i3N, yeah, if it works use evdev to map it to asdw and such for the game
[04:22] <urlin2u> ubuntufreak, I would... compiz is funky does not refresh well at times. Sometimes just logging out works, IO have the fusion-icon on the resktop as a launcher it restarts conpiz
[04:23] <fokkle> Pickleface_: any joy?
[04:23] <thechris> anyone familiar with ralink firmware?
[04:23] <thechris> specifically, how-to
[04:23] <A|i3N> ahhHh ok Thank you Edbian. :)
[04:24] <urlin2u> !wifi | thechris
[04:24] <edbian> A|i3N, sure
[04:24] <ubuntufreak> urlin2u, ok would try to reboot now
[04:24] <thechris> urlin2u: |grep firmware
[04:24] <thechris> oh, nothing
[04:24] <lalagirl> Okay. So it seems as though I am using Optimum Online Residential… What I should have been running is Optimum Online Business.
[04:24] <lalagirl> That is why the ports are blocked from my ISP and therefore do not work outside my local network.
[04:24] <edbian> lalagirl, why pay for ports to be opened?  Just use non-standard ports
[04:25] <iToast> ello
[04:25] <iToast> Hello*
[04:25] <iToast> Can Ubuntu watch all traffic on my network.
[04:25] <edbian> lalagirl, They don't block things about like 1024  (those below 1024 are standard)
[04:25] <iToast> Just log specific things
[04:25] <monstaRtruck> hey guyz
[04:25] <lalagirl> edbian I want people to access my website. In order for that to happen, I need port 80 to be opened, right?
[04:25] <monstaRtruck> im in buntu 1110 on my mac air 2011
[04:25] <edbian> lalagirl, port 80 is one that is open on optimum (at least that's what you said)
[04:25] <edbian> lalagirl, but yes
[04:25] <monstaRtruck> full rez will lit keys
[04:26] <monstaRtruck> woohoo
[04:26] <monstaRtruck> this is bad ass
[04:26] <monstaRtruck> how do i place unity bar at the bottom
[04:26] <monstaRtruck> can i get macbuntu for 11.10
[04:26] <edbian> monstaRtruck, if you're trying to get a mac look get something besides unity running (awn for the dock)
[04:26] <urlin2u> monstaRtruck, ask that question in google and you will see the sites telling how.
[04:26] <lalagirl> edbian that's only for optimum online "Users may not run any type of server on the system. This includes but is not limited to FTP, IRC, SMTP, POP, HTTP, SOCKS, SQUID, DNS or any multi-user forums;" for optimum online boost "Users may not run any servers except for a webserver (HTTP) and mail (SMTP) on the system. This includes but is not limited to FTP, IRC, POP, SOCKS, SQUID, DNS or any multi-user forums"
[04:26] <lalagirl>  and for optimum online boost, "Users may not run any servers except for a webserver (HTTP) and mail (SMTP) on the system. This includes but is not limited to FTP, IRC, POP, SOCKS, SQUID, DNS or any multi-user forums."
[04:27] <edbian> monstaRtruck, you cannot move the unity bar
[04:27] <edbian> lalagirl, i read that wrong
[04:27] <lalagirl> wooops… the message was cut off.
[04:27] <iToast> lalagirl: !pastebin
[04:27] <fokkle> iToast, no, you can only capture from your own computer's nic, unless you connect to a hub (not a switch) connected to your router or have an enterprise-type switch with port mirroring.
[04:27] <iToast> fokkle: What if I sit in the middle.
[04:27] <lalagirl> i don't need pastebin for that
[04:27] <edbian> lalagirl, that's ok.  so you do not have 'online boost' ?
[04:27] <urlin2u> edbian, there is a hack to move it to the bottom.
[04:27] <edbian> urlin2u, oh, didn't know that!
[04:28] <lalagirl> edbian no, i just have the regular optimum online… not optimum online boost
[04:28] <monstaRtruck> no i use mint
[04:28] <lalagirl> edbian sucks for me...
[04:28] <monstaRtruck> and macbuntu with cairto
[04:28] <urlin2u> edbian, not very pretty at least iIthought so.
[04:28] <edbian> lalagirl, They may have put that in their policy but it is possible they are not blocking this ports
[04:28] <edbian> urlin2u, mhmmm
[04:28] <fokkle> iToast: well, you could set up an ubuntu box to route, with 2 nics, and have the 2nd one go back to a switch.  but it'd be a fair amount of trouble to set up...
[04:28] <vyadhaka1> I am having trouble installing LVM over LUKS on a GPT drive. Has anyone had any success
[04:28] <lalagirl> edbian does your ISP block port 80?
[04:28] <monstaRtruck> can i get macbuntu for 11.10?
[04:28] <edbian> lalagirl, nope: ednovak.net
[04:29] <edbian> lalagirl, they are blocking port 53
[04:29] <thechris> Anyone familiar with wireless in ubuntu and specifically "firmware" for usb devices?
[04:29] <lalagirl> edbian you lucky ....
[04:29] <thechris> and if you're going to !wifi, at least point out where I should look, as "firmware" doens't appear
[04:29] <edbian> lalagirl, yes, well.  optimum apparently sucks
[04:29] <vmangudi`> lalagirl: you can get webserver hosted for a low price... 3-4 bucks a month
[04:29] <edbian> thechris, what card do you have?
[04:29] <edbian> thechris, it's a usb dongle?
[04:30] <lalagirl> edbian i feel like punching myseld
[04:30] <lalagirl> myseld
[04:30] <lalagirl> myself
[04:30] <urlin2u> thechris, have you looked here. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[04:30] <edbian> lalagirl, I think it will be ok
[04:30] <edbian> :P
[04:30] <lalagirl> edbian to punch myself?
[04:31] <edbian> lalagirl, I think punching yourself is unnecessary as it will not result in optimum opening ports for you for free.
[04:31] <edbian> lalagirl, Did you want to run httpd or ftpd ?
[04:31] <lalagirl> i'll be back
[04:31] <monstaRtruck> anyone here using macbuntu
[04:31] <edbian> oh ok  goodbye
[04:31]  * edbian uses linux, not mac
[04:33] <LOVenkrands> buenas noches
[04:33] <edbian> thechris, you there?
[04:33] <thechris> yes
[04:33] <LOVenkrands> im 24 from spain
[04:34] <Corey> lalagirl: If you want to run servers, either get a VPS or a business class connection.  You're on a residential connection, with a residential level of service.
[04:34] <edbian> thechris, what card is this?  Do you know how to figure this out?
[04:34] <thechris> this is a rt2800usb device, asus usb-n53
[04:34] <thechris> I'm apparently supposed to firmware
[04:35] <edbian> thechris, what exactly does  lsusb call it?
[04:35] <edbian> thechris, yeah, we need firmware / drivers.  The trick is figuring out which packages it is.  That's where I can help.
[04:35] <thechris> there really isn't much more information, like what I should do with the firmware
[04:35] <edbian> thechris, does the usb device show up in the output of lsusb ?
[04:35] <edbian> thechris, do you know how to run lsusb?
[04:36] <edbian> thechris, I don't know what firmware/driver/package we need to install without more info
[04:36] <thechris> lsusb calls it "asustek computer, inc", on dev 2,7
[04:36] <edbian> thechris, can you pastebin the line?  paste.ubuntu.com
[04:36] <vyadhaka1> goleff
[04:36] <edbian> thechris, where did yo uget rt2800 from?
[04:36] <thechris> form lsmod
[04:37] <edbian> thechris, rt2800 must be a driver...
[04:37] <edbian> thechris, please pastebin the output of lsusb -v   paste.ubuntu.com
[04:37] <thechris> edbian: that computer isn't connected to the internet
[04:38] <edbian> thechris, oh :(  how about can you just give me the one line about this device from lsusb ? the entire line without altercations
[04:39] <thechris> bus005, device 002: ID 0b05:179d ASUSTek Computer, Inc.
[04:39] <edbian> thanks
[04:39] <martian> Aloha! I have the following command in my rc.local script, but it doesn't seem to be working. It works find if I manually run it as root though. How can I sort out why it's not working? /bin/su - martian -c "ssh -f -L 1139:localhost:139 my.remote.host -N"
[04:40] <edbian> thechris, it was the 0b05:179d I needed
[04:40] <thechris> and same for bus 002, device 007, except  it is 179c
[04:40] <jmscomtech> is it possible to change the audi out put to 64 ohms rather than standard 32 at all?
[04:41] <jmscomtech> i have a soundcard with a builtin amp that does 64 ohms wich boosts the sound volume but in ubuntu i find i cant get there
[04:41] <jmscomtech> in windows the software boosts the sound
[04:42] <edbian> thechris, I'm not sure that's the wifi card?
[04:43] <edbian> thechris, if you run sudo iwlist scan   do you get any wifi networks in the output?
[04:43] <thechris> edbian: the verbose outptu lists it as an 802.11 WLAN
[04:43] <edbian> thechris, what verbose output?
[04:43] <matthewofencinit> Hi, I'm trying to extend my desktop across two monitors. Anybody help? I'm ignorant, so if you need more info say so. Thanks
[04:44] <thechris> edbian: from lsusb -v
[04:44] <edbian> thechris, ahh, ok good sign
[04:44] <thechris> edbian: iwlist scan -- wlan0 has no scane results
[04:44] <edbian> thechris, what about sudo iwlist scan ?
[04:44] <edbian> thechris, what exactly does it say?   does it say 'network is down?'
[04:44] <thechris> no, just "no scan results"
[04:45] <edbian> thechris, Then, I think the card is working, and there are no wifi networks near you.
[04:45] <thechris> edbian: no, there are 2 dozen networks by me
[04:45] <edbian> thechris, mmm, ok
[04:45] <thechris> edbian: my laptop is on one of them
[04:45] <edbian> thechris, ok
[04:48] <edbian> thechris, sudo modprobe rt2500usb
[04:48] <paulsomebody> monstaRtruck: I do not know what about MacUbuntu, but you can get Unity at the bottom.
[04:49] <edbian> thechris, I'm piecing this together from this page: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers
[04:49] <edbian> thechris, Except I can't figure out what chipset this thing is
[04:50] <phenom> question: What is the best way to sync desktop environments? I'd like to have the same spitting image across multiple pc's. rsync/csync home dir?
[04:50] <edbian> thechris, e.g. RT2571  or RT2770
[04:50] <thechris> i think it is rt2870
[04:50] <monstaRtruck> macbuntu 1010 will work on 1110
[04:50] <edbian> thechris, based on what?  what about sudo modprobe rt2500usb  ?
[04:50] <monstaRtruck> nothing new
[04:51] <paulsomebody> monstaRtruck: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/install-ubuntu-unity-bottom-launcher.html Pretty please, express your though coherently and use punctuation next time. :)
[04:51] <thechris> edbian: based on wikidev, which lists it as "probably rt2800 or 2870sta"
[04:51] <thechris> http://www.wikidevi.com/wiki/ASUS_USB-N53
[04:51] <monstaRtruck> acshuly
[04:51] <monstaRtruck> i dont like that unity bar
[04:51] <jmscomtech> how do i get the ubuntu sound settings to stick to the oxygen hd audio?
[04:51] <edbian> thechris, it said that was the chipset of the 0b05:179d ?
[04:51] <monstaRtruck> and no i will not use punctuashun
[04:52] <edbian> thechris, ahhh
[04:52] <edbian> thechris, I see your link now
[04:52] <edbian> thechris, what about the modprobe ?
[04:52] <edbian> thechris, I'm on the edge of my seat here!
[04:52] <monstaRtruck> sick got cairo dock
[04:52] <paulsomebody> monstaRtruck: Suit  yourself.
[04:52] <xcyclist> http://pastie.org/3094097
[04:53] <monstaRtruck> thx
[04:53] <thechris> modprobe 2500usb -- wlan0 no longer appears
[04:53] <thechris> i did rmmod 2800usb/lib first
[04:54] <edbian> thechris, ok, let's try that 2870  sudo modprobe rt2870sta
[04:54] <edbian> thechris, After reading your wiki page I'm not surprised that 2500usb didn't work
[04:55] <edbian> thechris, the rmmod  isn't necessary
[04:55] <edbian> thechris, have you tried modprobing this stuff before?
[04:55] <thechris> edbian: rt2870sta doesn't exist
[04:55] <edbian> thechris, I was afraid of that.  I'll try to figure that out online
[04:55] <lalagirl> hi i'm back
[04:56] <rcmaehl> My PC just kernel paniced. How do I figure out what caused it?
[04:56] <lalagirl> Thanks Corey.
[04:56] <DrPenguin> rcmaehl: did you look at the kernel panic? it usually tells you THERE what happened
[04:57] <rcmaehl> nope
[04:57] <lalagirl> And thank you edbian.
[04:57] <rcmaehl> it didn't display it
[04:57] <edbian> lalagirl, sure
[04:57] <DrPenguin> then how do you know it panicked
[04:57] <|aaron> can i ask for help installing a php pecl extension (ibm_db2) here?
[04:57] <rcmaehl> the pc hard froze still showing the GUI with scroll and ccaps lock blinking
[04:57] <lalagirl> edbian I'll talk to you guys later.
[04:57] <Blue1> I am having an issue with abiword.  when I go to re-open a document I saved it says it appears to be an invalid document -- how do I fix?
[04:57] <edbian> lalagirl, bye
[04:57] <lalagirl> edbian See you around.
[04:57] <DrPenguin> rcmaehl: during boot?
[04:58] <rcmaehl> DrPenguin: During normal pc usage
[04:58] <DrPenguin> rcmaehl: ok.. did you try VT switching?
[04:58] <rcmaehl> ?
[04:58] <DrPenguin> ill take that as a no.. look in /var/log, maybe it got captured in there
[04:58] <rcmaehl> which file?
[04:59] <DrPenguin> i dont know.. maybe kern.log? you gotta look
[05:00] <rcmaehl> doesn't look like it was logged in kern.log
[05:00] <DrPenguin> try looking in other files there then
[05:00] <DrPenguin> but it may not of been logged at all
[05:01] <edbian> thechris, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsDlink
[05:01] <edbian> thechris, I'm reading this
[05:03] <rcmaehl> I see something that kinda looks like what teh kernel panic outputs in syslog
[05:03] <DrPenguin> pastebin it
[05:04] <edbian> thechris, sudo apt-get install linux-firmware
[05:05] <Blue1>  I am having an issue with abiword.  when I go to re-open a document I saved it says it appears to be an invalid document -- how do I fix?
[05:05] <thechris> edbian: hmm, something messed up.  rebooting
[05:05] <edbian> thechris, ok?
[05:06] <edbian> thechris, what chipset do you think this is?
[05:06] <thechris> edbian: can't sudo
[05:06] <edbian> thechris, strange...
[05:07] <thechris> edbian: I'm assuming it was rt2870.
[05:07] <blackbox> whenever I create a desktop short cut of a website using chrome or firefox on ubuntu it always detaches it self from the many browser.... (how can I put it back into the tabs )
[05:07] <edbian> thechris, mhmm
[05:07] <NimeshNeema> where can i learn more about apt ? any good pointers ?
[05:07] <edbian> How can I get the rt2870sta driver in ubuntu 11.10 ??
[05:07] <edbian> Or where can I find out?
[05:07] <thechris> well that was a mistake
[05:07] <edbian> thechris, mistake?
[05:07] <thechris> now i don't have usb
[05:07] <edbian> thechris, any usb?
[05:07] <rcmaehl> http://pastebin.com/MzQBXj2X
[05:08] <thechris> edbian: i put the rt2870 firmware in /lib/firmware
[05:08] <thechris> now the wifi prevents the mouse or keyboard from working
[05:08] <DrPenguin> compiz caused it
[05:08] <thechris> at least at boot
[05:09] <edbian> thechris, but wifi is working?
[05:09] <edbian> thechris, where did you get the firmware?
[05:09] <thechris> edbian: from ralink
[05:09] <thechris> edbian: and I can't set the wpa password without a keyboard/mouse
[05:09] <edbian> thechris, i see, reboot
[05:10] <edbian> thechris, maybe the keyboard / mouse will come back (they obviously should not interfere)
[05:10] <blackbox> does anybody have that problem when creating a desktop shortcut in chrome or firefox the tab you are creating the desktop shortcut detaches from the main browser window... how to put it back? Or is this just a bug? Seems also that when you open a short cut it doesn't have the windows decorations
[05:10] <dante123> hi all, have an older computer with AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3400+    Want to know if I should go 32 bit or 64 with this cpu?
[05:10] <edbian> dante123, is it a 64 bit cpu?
[05:11] <DrPenguin> thats probably a 32bit..
[05:11] <NimeshNeema> dante123: how much memory u have ?
[05:11] <Arcademan> dante123, what kind of Ram you have I assume x32 :)
[05:11] <paulsomebody> blackbox: This is supposed to work that way, it is not a bug.
[05:11] <dante123> it is a 64 bit cpu and I have 2gb ram
[05:11] <Arcademan> I would still stick with x32 :)
[05:11] <edbian> dante123, DrPenguin the amd site says it can be 64 bit: http://products.amd.com/%28S%28cdylad45vuougtu24fqzoi2z%29%29/pages/DesktopCPUDetail.aspx?id=143&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1
[05:11] <blackbox> why would one want that ? it is annoying I would like it not to detach
[05:12] <thechris> edbian: when i plug the usb adapater back in, i have access to the mouse.  still no AP's
[05:12] <edbian> thechris, when did you unplug the usb dongle?  Did you reboot?
[05:12] <DrPenguin> if it supports a 64bit operating mode then its a 64bit cpu
[05:12] <paulsomebody> blackbox: Because this is how web apps work. Google more information if you want to know more.
[05:12] <blackbox> is their anyway in the preferences to specify this... cann't see why people would want this
[05:12] <dante123> edbian would you recommend 64 bit or 32?
[05:12] <edbian> dante123, the biggest reason to use 64 bit is to use more than 3.2 Gb of ram
[05:13] <edbian> dante123, which you don't have sooo...
[05:13] <dante123> so then 32 bit is probably safest
[05:13] <monstaRtruck> wats up w gconf editor in 1110
[05:13] <paulsomebody> blackbox: If you want a web app to run unlike this, it is feasible.
[05:13] <dante123> okay
[05:13] <edbian> dante123, It makes little difference
[05:13] <edbian> dante123, I guess flash is easier on 32 bit
[05:13] <Arcademan> lol ^
[05:13] <dante123> this computer is for someone else....so I think I will go 32 so they dont get issues
[05:13] <paulsomebody> blackbox: In Chrome, simply right click it and select the necessary option. I don't know about Firefox, though.
[05:14] <dante123> thanks for help edbian and others
[05:14] <thechris> edbian: after rebooting, still no AP's
[05:14] <edbian> dante123, sure
[05:14] <edbian> thechris, but mouse and keyboard are back?
[05:14] <thechris> edbian: this time they did come back
[05:15] <edbian> thechris, what module is currently active?  Did you remove the firmware from /lib/firmware ?
[05:15] <paulsomebody> blackbox: It my experience, it works the same way in both systems.
[05:15] <thechris> edbian: no, linux-firmware was previously at the latest version
[05:15] <edbian> thechris, Yeah, I know that.  (saw that on my system)
[05:15] <monstaRtruck> where is gconf editor it 11.10
[05:15] <paulsomebody> blackbox: You want to create a shortcut to the regular webpage, or an web app?
[05:15] <thechris> edbian: rt2800usb/lib is what is currently in use
[05:16] <MxxC> hey folks. when i try to install firmware-b43legacy-installer i get
[05:16] <edbian> thechris, strange name,  is that what was active when you saw AP's listed?
[05:16] <MxxC> ~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure firmware-b43legacy-installer
[05:16] <MxxC> [: 17: missing ]
[05:16] <MxxC> [: 17: missing ]
[05:16] <FloodBot1> MxxC: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:16] <edbian> MxxC, That package doesn't exist anymore.  What card do you have?
[05:16] <thechris> edbian: I've never seen AP's listed from the desktop, only from the laptop
[05:16] <blackbox> so is their away to open a short cut with all the windows tool bars in firefox and chrome.... On windows I don't have this problem because it always opens with all the tool bars
[05:17] <paulsomebody> blackbox: Yes.
[05:17] <edbian> thechris, desktop, laptop... ?
[05:17] <blackbox> how
[05:17] <edbian> thechris, which machine have we been talking about this whole time
[05:17] <edbian> I can't read your mind
[05:17] <paulsomebody> blackbox: What you are doing is creating a web app, what you need is simply to create a shortcut.
[05:17] <MxxC> edbian, it exist in 11.04...? i have bmc4306 it's dell D600 laptop
[05:17] <thechris> edbian: oh, the desktop is what doens't work.  the laptop also has wifi and is what I've used to determine that the wireless world still exists
[05:17] <edbian> MxxC, I have that card!
[05:17] <edbian> MxxC, sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[05:18] <edbian> thechris, ok, you've never seen wifi networks using the usb dongle in question right?
[05:18] <thechris> edbian: no, its new
[05:18] <MxxC> edbian: it says unsupported device was found and i should use b43legacy
[05:18] <edbian> MxxC, oh really... lemme check something
[05:19] <blackbox> well I go under tools/create application short cut and have the desktop checkbox set when I hit ok it doesn't work?
[05:19] <edbian> thechris, I think your best bet is to get rt2870sta working, unfortunately I cannot find what package this is in
[05:19] <NotJimCarrey> ok, i'm using dd to mirror a 904Gb NTFS partition onto a new XFS partition. it's only copying at 20.1Mb/s, so it'll take about another 14 hours, and I'm using SATA to SATA
[05:19] <NotJimCarrey> any ideas on how to speed it up?
[05:19] <thechris> edbian: the usb key blinks regularly.  that doesn't really help me much
[05:19] <thechris> edbian: i'm probably just going to have to see if the 3rd party module compiles in 11.10
[05:19] <edbian> MxxC, sudo apt-get install firmware-b43legacy-installer   (is that what you originally ran?)
[05:19] <MxxC> NotJimCarrey: use larger blocks?
[05:20] <computer_> my sound has stopped working....what do i do?
[05:20] <edbian> thechris, Yes, I think that is rt2870sta
[05:20] <paulsomebody> blackbox: Simplify all our lives and just google it next time. It is what I have just did.  http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/how-to-create-desktop-shortcuts-for-websites-in-ubuntu-11-10-tip/
[05:20] <MxxC> edbian: yes, that's the command that gave me that error
[05:20] <NotJimCarrey> MxxC: how do i do that?
[05:20] <paulsomebody> blackbox: You are welcome, though.
[05:20] <edbian> MxxC, do you have multiverse enabled?
[05:20] <MxxC> yes
[05:21] <thechris> edbian: what is "sta"  "static?:
[05:21] <szal> NotJimCarrey: is that mirroring if you use dd?  dd doesn't copy files, it creates an image
[05:21] <edbian> thechris, IDK :
[05:21] <NotJimCarrey> ok, then what's the best way to move everything? just mv?
[05:22] <edbian> MxxC, I guarantee that firmware-b43legacy-installer is a package and it is in multiverse.  I think you don't have multiverse enabled if you're getting 'package not found'
[05:22] <szal> NotJimCarrey: I'd suggest to copy first, and if all is well, you can wipe the source files
[05:22] <kaushal> Hi
[05:22] <edbian> MxxC, this is ubuntu 11.10 right?
[05:22] <NotJimCarrey> ok, i'll do that then. but is there a specific way to mount the drives so that it copies faster?
[05:22] <MxxC> edbian: i didn't get "package not found" i got "[: 17: missing ]", the same error i get even durking dpkg-reconfigure firmware-b43legacy-installer
[05:22] <edbian> thechris, the blinking unfortuantely means very little
[05:23] <paulsomebody> !ask | kaushal
[05:23] <MxxC> edbian: yes, 11.10
[05:23] <NotJimCarrey> sorry, but haven't messed with that in several years
[05:23] <edbian> MxxC, 17:missing   huh
[05:23] <edbian> MxxC, googling
[05:23] <computer_> !sound
[05:23] <kaushal> paulsomebody: hi
[05:23] <kaushal> I am using Firefox 8.0+build1-0ubuntu0.11.04.3, the memory usage and CPU Usage is pretty high. Any issue ?
[05:23] <MxxC> edbian: i'm experiencing teh same problem as 1st post in http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11433255&postcount=1
[05:23] <szal> NotJimCarrey: not sure, but I think NTFS is the bottleneck; fuse just isn't as performant as the Windows kernel NTFS driver
[05:23] <DrPenguin> firefox is a resource hog
[05:23] <DrPenguin> always has been
[05:23] <kaushal>  my system almost becomes unusable
[05:24] <szal> DrPenguin: nothing new
[05:24] <MxxC> edbian: and i followed all those instructions and tried manual commands as well..no luck
[05:24] <edbian> MxxC, reading..
[05:24] <NotJimCarrey> szal: that's why the new drive is XFS
[05:24] <szal> DrPenguin: it's a symptom of featuritis ;)
[05:24] <NotJimCarrey> it's for my media server
[05:24] <DrPenguin> szal: oh I know.. I use chromium
[05:24] <paulsomebody> kaushal: Try disabling extensions, this may help. Generally, in my experience, using Chromium is the easiest fix to Firefox memory issues. :)
[05:25] <edbian> MxxC, so firmware-b43-installer says to use legacy and firmware-b43legacy-installer says no device found
[05:25] <edbian> MxxC, ugh, bugs
[05:25] <thechris> edbian: and the  kernel module does not build
[05:25] <edbian> thechris, of course
[05:25] <edbian> :P
[05:25] <edbian> I'm not sure
[05:25] <MxxC> edbian: firmware-b43legacy-installer gives this strange 17: missing error...
[05:25] <szal> kaushal: solution 1: use a different browser..  solution 2: buy more RAM
[05:26] <edbian> MxxC, I think that means it cannot find a device for this firmware
[05:26] <MxxC> edbian: should i file a bug for that package?
[05:26] <edbian> MxxC, yes, I'm looking for one right now
[05:26] <edbian> MxxC, can you sudo modprobe b43   ??
[05:27] <NotJimCarrey> MxxC: know of a way to get a progress (bar/pct/etc) when using cp?
[05:27] <edbian> MxxC, wait
[05:27] <edbian> MxxC, sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[05:27] <MxxC> NotJimCarrey: no. try using clonezilla
[05:27] <NotJimCarrey> and i am looking it up, but so far no luck
[05:27] <MxxC> edbian: i did..didn't help
[05:28] <edbian> MxxC, run that and then the other command?
[05:28] <edbian> MxxC, as post 2 says?
[05:28] <MxxC> edbian: yes, tried that in that order. same thing
[05:28] <edbian> MxxC, well, the last post seems promising too
[05:28] <edbian> I'm not sure
[05:28] <edbian> this is a big and annoying bug
[05:28] <MxxC> edbian: tried that as well. :(
[05:28] <MxxC> no luck
[05:29] <edbian> MxxC, this is a BIG BUG  I suggest you file a bug report using the bug reporting tool in ubuntu
[05:29] <edbian> MxxC, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[05:30] <blackbox> I have an alias in a bash script file but when I try to echo the alias I cann't print it out? I tried echo $myalias but that didn't work I tried as well $(alias) that didn't work either
[05:32] <Blue1> blackbox: this may/may not help -- http://pkill-9.com/simple-annotated-bash-script-to-zap-a-user/
[05:33] <blackbox> no that is a simple script but it doesn't echo or printf an alias?
[05:34] <thechris> does anyone know what is required to fix an implicit declaration of a function
[05:34] <thechris> it prevents rt2870sta from compiling
[05:34] <DrPenguin> thechris: is this something you wrote?
[05:34] <Blue1> blackbox: you mean like a bash alias in .bash_aliases
[05:34] <thechris> DrPenguin: nope, its a kernel module
[05:35] <DrPenguin> thechris: ok… so im assuming your trying to build it and gcc is yelling at you
[05:35] <thechris> DrPenguin: yes, and apparently it is an error
[05:35] <thechris> DrPenguin: though it says "some warnings are being treated as errors"
[05:35] <DrPenguin> can you pastebin the c file its complaining about?
[05:36] <thechris> DrPenguin: i cannot
[05:36] <matt3940gmail> hi does any one know how to get ubuntu one to work with ubuntu 10,4 licid tls
[05:36] <matt_> .join #xbmc
[05:36] <DrPenguin> then I cant help you
[05:36] <matt_> hey
[05:36] <matt_> wtf
[05:36] <Albinoman887> there we go
[05:36] <Albinoman887> whats up everyone
[05:36] <thechris> DrPenguin: it does seem like someone is setting -Werror=... though
[05:36] <Albinoman887> getting excited for edit
[05:36] <DrPenguin> thechris: frankly, i dont care. if your not gonna show me it, then im not interested
[05:37] <blackbox> yes like if I say in my bash script alias name="nick"
[05:38] <blackbox> echo $name shows nothing should show value nick
[05:38] <DrPenguin> blackbox: you need to sett the name variable, thats not a variable
[05:39] <DrPenguin> just do name=nick
[05:39] <matt3940gmail> does any one know anything about ubuntu one
[05:39] <blackbox> what ? sett
[05:39] <DrPenguin> s/sett/set/
[05:40] <blackbox> o you mean declare a variable then have the alias point to that variable
[05:40] <DrPenguin> no!
[05:40] <DrPenguin> you dont use alias's as variables
[05:41] <blackbox> well , I was trying to make this script object orientated with alias myobject.string1=
[05:42] <balleyne> HTML5 video is working fine for the first user on my Ubuntu machine, but not for the second user or guest user. Same results when creating new profiles (works for first user, not second or guest), running in safe-mode. No add-ons installed (besides the default Ubuntu ones) for users without working HTML5... Chromium HTML5 video works fine for all users. Help?
[05:42] <blackbox> their has to be away to print out the value of an alias
[05:42] <DrPenguin> alias -p yourAlias
[05:42] <DrPenguin> right in the man page..
[05:43] <DrPenguin> so, you sir, are the lucky recipient of an RTFM yell
[05:43] <blackbox> yes but that list them all I kind of want to just echo the alias
[05:43] <DrPenguin> then use something like grep or cut to filter
[05:43] <blackbox> think I found it , I think if I use shopt -s expand_aliases
[05:45] <DrPenguin> i need to wear my RTFM shirt more often.
[05:47] <thechris> !implicit-function-declarations
[05:48] <DrPenguin> thechris: thats a C thing, not an ubuntu thing
[05:49] <xangua> balleyne: so by html5 you mean ogg/theora format¿
[05:51] <balleyne> xangua: having this problem with Theora and WebM HTML5 video
[05:51] <xangua> balleyne: have you installed extra codecs for chromium¿ chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra
[05:53] <jamesw> hi.. would someone please help me get my java working? i've tried everything I can think of and googled a lot. Ubuntu 11.04 64bit. Intending to use sun-java latest (6)
[05:53] <balleyne> xangua: it works in Firefox for one user though, and Chromium for all users... will check that package
[05:54] <DrPenguin> jamesw: wel it would be nice if you told us what was wrong
[05:54] <jamesw> DrPenguin: when I go to any website using java it just says Missing Plugin or "java is not working" etc
[05:54] <brophat> isn't there an app called desktop when you click it all own windows will minimize?
[05:54] <jamesw> in chromium and firefox
[05:54] <xangua> balleyne: so it's firefox the one that doesn't work with¿¿
[05:55] <DrPenguin> jamesw: can we make sure java is working first? open a terminal.. can you type javac and have it spit at you a bunch of flags?
[05:55]  * xangua doesn't like to guess
[05:55] <jamesw> DrPenguin: yep javac spits out all the help
[05:56] <DrPenguin> ok.. thats a good sign.. you might be missing a java plugin for the browser
[05:56] <jamesw> $ java -version: - java version "1.6.0_26"
[05:56] <balleyne> xangua: I have two configured users on my machine: balleyne and heather. Works fine in FF for balleyne (even when creating a new FF profile), doesn't work for heather (even when creating a new FF profile) or for the guest user. Chromium works for all
[05:56] <mebigfatguy_> thats not the latest btw
[05:56] <balleyne> xangua: also tried safe mode, same results
[05:57] <mebigfatguy_> (java) 6.30 is
[05:57] <yvemath> well, that is a little bit of selfishness out there.
[05:57] <mebigfatguy_> java manual install: this is good (works for 6 too) http://www.shinephp.com/install-jdk-7-on-ubuntu/
[05:57] <matt3940gmail> yvemath: why is that
[05:57] <jamesw> mebigfatguy_: i am using latest from repo
[05:57] <jamesw> should i upgrade beyond latest in repo?
[05:57] <mebigfatguy_> jamesw, i see
[05:58] <jamesw> manually
[05:58] <xangua> balleyne: so both users use the same fx version¿ usgin downloaded version of firefox.com and other user the system install¿
[05:58] <yvemath> matt3940gmail: read what balleyne said, and match the nickname ff works properly with.
[05:58] <mebigfatguy_> sounds like ubuntu is removing sun jdk from repos at some point any way
[05:58] <mebigfatguy_> (plugin) at least
[05:58] <thechris> Does anyone know if ubuntu's gcc sets -Werror-implicit-function-declaration someplace?
[05:59] <thechris> I've been trying to install the rt2870 modules, and they don't build
[05:59] <DrPenguin> thechris: that has nothing to do with "ubuntus" gcc
[05:59] <DrPenguin> its the make file
[05:59] <thechris> There is a warning about implicit function declarations, which then becomes an error.
[05:59] <DrPenguin> thechris:  theres probably a "good" reason why the makers of the module set that to be an error, dont disable it
[05:59] <balleyne> xangua: system install, stock Ubuntu 11.10 FF 8.0
[05:59] <Vivekananda> hello everyone,I have dell inspiron 600m (no webcam) running lucid latest.Trying to install ipwebcam(an android market app to turn phone into webcam) and it requires v4l2loopback.Not able to install
[06:00] <thechris> I've tried to find the offending lines and remove them, but this hasn't worked./
[06:00] <zero> Hello, guys
[06:00] <r_tarandus> hihi.
[06:00] <jamesw> thank you, this guide is prettier http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-jdk-in.html
[06:00] <thechris> I'm assuming that if this option was meant to be set, then someone at ralink would have seen the issue.
[06:01] <thechris> Which makes me think the issue is with something in ubuntu's setup
[06:01] <DrPenguin> thechris no.. its meant to stop the compilation if your missing headers
[06:01] <DrPenguin> thecrhis nope, your wrong
[06:01] <matt3940gmail> Guest67304: hi
[06:01] <thechris> there are a lot of .o.cmd files, but I think these are generated by the makefile and not used by the makefile
[06:01] <Flatlined> thechris : Firmware?
[06:02] <Guest67304> Who knows the differences between SysV services and upstart service?
[06:02] <thechris> Flatlined: this is the rt2870sta kernel module
[06:02] <matt3940gmail> Guest67304: hi
[06:03] <thechris> the source is on a computer that doens't have internet access, which makes this a bit more difficult
[06:03] <Guest67304> matt3940gmail, hi
[06:03] <Tio90> I just installed Anjuta (IDE for c++) ,from deb package.. but i dont know where its located and i can't find it. help me
[06:04] <xangua> Tio90: type anjuta on the dash¿
[06:04] <balleyne> Tio90: `which anjuta`
[06:04] <balleyne> Tio90: are you trying to run Anjuta? Or find out where it's installed?
[06:05] <Guest67304> Anyone knows the differences between System-V and upstart service?
[06:05] <Tio90> balleyne: both
[06:05] <Flatlined> thechris : you need the firmware
[06:05] <Tio90> `which anjuta` dont give me any results
[06:06] <almoxarife> thechris:  You may be required to blacklist the in-tree rt2800usb driver to allow your device to be claimed by rt2870sta. http://wiki.debian.org/rt2870sta
[06:06] <Vivekananda> hello
[06:06] <balleyne> Tio90: typing that from the command line, right? if there's no results, that means it's not on the path... you could check in /opt, /usr/bin/, /usr/local/bin, you could 'dpkg --list | grep anjuta' to see the installation state
[06:06] <balleyne> not sure off the top of my head how to check a .deb file to see what location it's supposed to unpack to, but I'm sure that's possible too
[06:06] <matt3940gmail> hellow
[06:07] <Guest67304> As I know till now ubuntu didn't support vdsm which has already supported on redhat distribution, do you guys have some advice or suggestion?
[06:07] <almoxarife> balleyne: synaptic does it swell
[06:07] <Metroshica> I'm currently writing a bash script that creates a tarball, and I wasn to name it Archive(date).tgz, where date would be a timestamp. What would be the easiest way to timestamp something in a bash script?
[06:07] <blackbox> no luck is their any way to echo what an alias is pointing to?
[06:08] <blackbox> in bash
[06:08] <almoxarife> balleyne: synaptic does it swell,............. I take that back, only on 'installed' packages
[06:08] <DrPenguin> blackbox: use tools you already have.. like grep or cut
[06:10] <almoxarife> blackbox: what's the terminal method to do the equiv of opening a file by a text editor?
[06:10] <thechris> almoxarife: I can't build rt2870sta at the moment.  something sets a gcc option and I can't seem to unset it
[06:10] <DrPenguin> thechris: maybe you should find out what headers are missing?
[06:11] <almoxarife> thechris: let me see if I understand this, you have a laptop with builtin wifi?
[06:11] <blackbox> are you saying nano or something like Leafpad?
[06:11] <thechris> almoxarife: i have a working laptop with wifi, and a broken desktop with wifi
[06:11] <thechris> almoxarife: desktop with broken wifi
[06:12] <almoxarife> thechris: the rt... thing is usb?
[06:12] <thechris> almoxarife: the rt2870 modules appear to be needed, but they no longer build
[06:12] <thechris> yes usb
[06:13] <almoxarife> thechris: the desktop has wifi card or onboard?
[06:13] <Metroshica> I'm currently writing a bash script that creates a tarball, and I wasn to name it Archive(date).tgz, where date would be a timestamp. What would be the easiest way to timestamp something in a bash script?
[06:13] <thechris> desktop has the usb, laptop has internal
[06:13] <Tio90> i think i have just crushed the repository, how to get it back to default? coz my apt-get update give me 404 errors
[06:13] <thechris> almoxarife: desktop=usb=broken, laptop=internal=working
[06:13] <helli0n> hello all
[06:13] <DrPenguin> Metroshica: the date command?>
[06:14] <almoxarife> thechris: where are you wanting this usb to work? desktop I assume
[06:14] <almoxarife> thechris: the desktop has wifi card or onboard wifi?
[06:14] <Metroshica> DrPenguin, yes, I'm not too experienced with it in bash scripting though. Could you give me a good example of how I could name a tar output using the timestamp, or point me in the direction of a good article? My googling of the subject is coming up short
[06:15] <CarlFK> Metroshica: TIMESTAMP=$(date +%m_%d_%H_%M_%S)
[06:15] <DrPenguin> Metroshica: I could probably hack something together real quick… what do you want to include in the time stamp?
[06:15] <Metroshica> DrPenguin, I'd like the output of a tar command to contain it. So for example tar cvzf Example(date here).tgz /path/to/dir
[06:15] <CarlFK> Metroshica: that's from a script... I am guessing you want: mv foo.tgz $(date +%m_%d_%H_%M_%S)
[06:16] <thechris> almoxarife: the desktop will have the wifi usb adaptor that currenlty doesn't work
[06:16] <matt3940gmail> ok this sound stupid but to talk to someone you have ton type ther nick in every time you say something to them
[06:16] <almoxarife> thechris: the desktop has wifi card or onboard wifi?
[06:16] <DrPenguin> Metroshica: thats not te ansqer to my question, I want to know WHAT do you want to be in the timestamp.. like dd/mm/yy/_hh/mm or what?
[06:16] <Metroshica> CarlFK, yea, that could work as well, I'd like to know if it's possible to put it in the actual tar command, but if not I could use it in a mv command
[06:16] <thechris> matt3940gmail: most irc clients support tab completion.  eg ma[tab] will complete your name
[06:16] <almoxarife> thechris: it's a yes or no question
[06:16] <Metroshica> DrPenguin, ah ok, sorry, dd/mm/yy/_hh would be fine
[06:17] <CarlFK> Metroshica: yes - I was wondering why you wanted it in 2 steps
[06:17] <thechris> matt3940gmail: no, but it highlights the line on the receipients screen
[06:17] <DrPenguin> Metroshica: then you could just make a variable using the date command and feed that to tar as the parameter for the tarball name
[06:17] <thechris> matt3940gmail: that way your replies are less likely to get lost in the noise
[06:17] <CarlFK> Metroshica: what is your tar command now?
[06:17] <matt3940gmail> thechris: ok cool that helps
[06:17] <almoxarife> thechris: alrighty then, I will let you plink along
[06:18] <Metroshica> DrPenguin, exactly, and that's where I'm stuck. I'm embarassed but I don't know exactly how to feed in a bash variable to a tar command
[06:18] <balleyne> matt3940gmail: also might trigger an alert that a message is being directed to the user in their IRC client, when you mention their username
[06:18] <DrPenguin> Metroshica: VARIABLE=varcontents, tar czvf $VARIABLE dirToTar
[06:18] <Metroshica> CarlFK, it would be tar cvzf Something(date).tgz /path/to/dir
[06:18] <thechris> almoxarife: that wasn't a yes/no question.  i'll go with no = usb
[06:18] <Metroshica> DrPenguin, ah ok, is it that easy? didn't know that
[06:19] <Metroshica> DrPenguin, and then the carvontents, what would be the exact syntax using the date command?
[06:19] <Metroshica> DrPenguin, varcontents*
[06:19] <DrPenguin> Metroshica: something like VARIABLE=`date +%D_%H` would give you the date _ Hour
[06:19] <CarlFK> Metroshica: echo tar cvzf Something\($(date +%m_%d_%H_%M_%S)\).tgz /path/to/dir  => tar cvzf Something(12_30_00_19_35).tgz /path/to/dir
[06:20] <Metroshica> DrPenguin, CarlFK perfect, both of those commands will work fine, thanks for the help.
[06:21] <matt3940gmail> balleyne: do u use a linux machine only i am looking for a good windows emmulator
[06:22] <xuser1> hi:)
[06:22] <matt3940gmail> xuser1: hi
[06:22] <balleyne> matt3940gmail: I rarely use Windows, but VirtualBox is a FLOSS virtual machine that will let you run Windows inside a virtual machine inside Ubuntu. You can install VirtualBox from the Ubuntu Software Centre.
[06:23] <xuser1> can i move gnome 3 panel from top to bottom ?
[06:23] <xuser1> :-D
[06:23] <thechris> sweet, found where i could set the cflags in one of the make files
[06:23] <balleyne> matt3940gmail: or, you can check out Wine, which lets you run some Windows applications from GNU/Linux (rather than running the whole operating system, like with VirtualBox
[06:25] <Tio90> I have a problem when i updating cache, it stuck on 94% , i have chose the best repo server, whats wrong
[06:25] <matt3940gmail> balleyne: ok i will try that i have 3 programs that do not support linux i tryed wine but so far no luck i am out of my ellemt here in linux i was preety good with windows but after vista i begain to hate it
[06:25] <ipv6hermit> hi everybody, I'm trying to setup a DNS server under ubuntu, but I'm having trouble with some functionality named complains it can't modify or create files because the permissions are denied.   I checked and the permissions seem to be ok.  could it apparmor bothering me?
[06:27] <balleyne> matt3940gmail: ok, try VirtuaBox. Might take some effort to set up (you have to install Windows inside the virtual machine), but search the web for tutorials, and once you get it running you'll be able to run those programs inside the virtual machine no problem.
[06:28] <Tio90> balleyne : http://postimage.org/image/clm2e1mv1/
[06:29] <balleyne> Tio90: weird... what does your /etc/apt/sources.list file say? maybe there's an incorrect entry or something? not sure
[06:29] <mohsinhijazee> Just a quick question, Lenovo G570, how well it runs ubuntu? Any issues with Wifi, BlueTooth or Cam?
[06:29] <Octane> mohsinhijazee i think itll run beautifull
[06:29] <Octane> y
[06:29] <Octane> wifi bluetooth and cam work out of the box pretty much
[06:30] <thechris> hmm, seems that actually was an error.  guess my wifi is no longer supported
[06:30] <matt3940gmail> balleyne: ok i am now on a search for a windows os to give it i used vbon my windows maching so i kina know whats going on with it but in the fusteration a week ago i formatted my hd windows bye bye
[06:30] <thechris> Octane: oh the irony
[06:30] <mohsinhijazee> Octan you have been using? or any online list maintained by Ubuntu about compatibility?
[06:31] <balleyne> matt3940gmail: it's easier to reinstall anyways. Do you have a Windows install CD?
[06:31] <LogicallyDashing> I changed the root password. It said, "Password updated successfully". But I can't log in with it, and if I run passwd again, it doesn't ask for my current password.
[06:32] <Tio90> balleyne : btw i'm in ubuntu 10.04 , i saw this in sources.list " deb-src http://ubuntu.oss.eznetsols.org/ubuntu/ lucid main restricted " .. what is it?
[06:33] <matt3940gmail> no vista did not come with one but before i formatted i copped the whole dv to my ext hd so in might be able to recreate it from ther but i would like to find a free xp out ther some were
[06:34] <matt3940gmail> balleyne: sorry forgot to tag that one
[06:34] <balleyne> Tio90: not sure, restricted would be the proprietary/non-libre software section of lucid main I think, not sure if the location is a valid Ubuntu mirror or not. Is it similar to the other lines in the file?
[06:35] <Tio90> balleyne : http://pastebin.com/TuiQzBGu
[06:35] <balleyne> matt3940gmail: I prefer xp over vista myself
[06:37] <matt3940gmail> balleyne: ok one thing with ubuntu 10 . 4 how do i get it to stop asking for password every time i go to install something fromsoftware center
[06:37] <Tio90> always be a root?
[06:37] <balleyne> matt3940gmail: usually it remembers your password for at least a little while? like, 5 or 10 minutes at least, I think? I'm on 11.10 though.
[06:38] <balleyne> Tio90: I'm not sure, but that last line looks a little wonky, too many parts to it... might also make sense if you said it was failing at 94% (i.e. towards the end)?
[06:39] <Tio90> yeah it failed, incomplete update
[06:39] <matt3940gmail> balleyne: ok when you go to a diffren verision ex.10.4  to 11.10 will i loose all my data
[06:39] <balleyne> Tio90: I have separate lines for multiverse, universe and main restricted in my 11.10 sources.list...
[06:40] <MrHacks> Hey, guy. I think I touched something I shouldn't have.  During my oneric update, I kept seeing a message saying 'xset could not find display ""' so I went to a forum to see if it was some sort of error (on another computer, obviously) concerned it might be an error. It wasn't really, and someone had the idea of using "sudo xset dpms off" to fix the bug but at the end of the upgrade, this message showed up several times, so I type
[06:40] <balleyne> matt3940gmail: nope, upgrades are pretty smooth, but you can't skip versions (so you'd have to upgrade three times, 10.04 => 10.10 => 11.04 => 11.10)
[06:41] <balleyne> matt3940gmail: I started out with 6.06 for awhile, as the LTS in 2007, then went through a series of upgrades to catch up to the regular releases after a few months... probably worth it, unless you really need the stabilty of an LTS (12.04 is supposed to be an LTS anyways, I think)
[06:41] <DrPenguin> MrHacks: xset dpms off would just disable power management features for the monitor
[06:41] <Flannel> balleyne, matt3940gmail: you can go LTS to LTS, so you can upgrade directly from 10.04 to 12.04 (when it's out)
[06:42] <Tio90> so how may i solve this?
[06:42] <MrHacks> DrPenguin: How to I make the screen work like it did such that if I move the mouse around the backlight turns back on as well as the LCD?
[06:42] <balleyne> Flannel: good to know!
[06:42] <balleyne> Tio90: here's my sources.list: http://pastebin.com/fvqF403x
[06:42] <DrPenguin> MrHacks: turn dpms back on
[06:42] <paulsomebody> Hello, everyone.
[06:43] <balleyne> Tio90: if I were you, I'd backup your sources.list, then try to edit it and split out that security line into three separate lines, like mine
[06:43] <paulsomebody> I cannot switch computer off from the LightDM. What can be wrong?
[06:43] <matt3940gmail> Flannel: ok i am a total noob so do i go to ubuntu.com an down load a nre ver or is ther a gui some were i have not seen
[06:44] <MrHacks> DPMS was enabled, DrPenguin. the problem is I chaged something I shouldn't have I think. are you sure that 'sudo xset dpms on' will fix everything?
[06:44] <Vivekananda> Hello everyone ! cannot install v4l2loopback kernel module in lucid on a comp with no webcam.Any suggestions?
[06:45] <DrPenguin> MrHacks: how should I know? if you changed more than you just told me then Id have no idea how to fix ur issue
[06:45] <MrHacks> At one point, I though I could remedy it with 'sudo xset dpms standby' (assuming that standby means the same as hibernate)
[06:46] <Doodie> hi, how so i ping data of certain size like 1024 etc???
[06:46] <thechris> anyone know how to get an asus usb-n53 to work?
[06:46] <Flannel> matt3940gmail: What do you mean?  You download from ubuntu.com, yes.
[06:46] <DrPenguin> Doodie: RTFM! its right in pings manpage
[06:46] <balleyne> matt3940gmail: If you don't want to wait for 12.04 and want to go through 10.10 and 11.04 to 11.10, you would go to System > Administration > Update Manager I believe. You have to make sure that under System > Administration > Softwware Sources, it's set to notify of normal releases and not just LTS
[06:47] <Doodie> ok
[06:47] <thechris> I've gotten rt2870sta installed, but i don't have a wlan0 or ra0
[06:47] <DrPenguin> thechris: did you load the module?
[06:47] <DrPenguin> and did you actually build it right vs disablingg it failing when your missing headers?
[06:47] <balleyne> Tio90: like change the last line to http://pastebin.com/sp6nLERQ ?
[06:48] <thechris> there was something on google that said there was now support in the kernel for this, but didn't elaborate
[06:48] <thechris> rt2800usb doesn't work
[06:49] <matt3940gmail> Flannel: no installed off a live usb but yes i got the iso for the use from ubuntu.com
[06:49] <Flannel> matt3940gmail: then you're fine.  Don't need to do anything.
[06:49] <Flatlined> thechris : you need the firmware
[06:49] <thechris> Flatlined: as far as I can tell, i have it.
[06:49] <syddraf> Compiz Grid and Compiz Put are not recognizing any commands. Does anyone know of a way to fix this?
[06:50] <Doodie> DrPenguin, if i ping huge data to an address will that slowdown the internet speed of that address?
[06:50] <DrPenguin> Doodie: um.. what do you think?
[06:50] <DrPenguin> more data means your consuming more bandwidth..
[06:50] <Doodie> DrPenguin, i think yes
[06:51] <thechris> Flatlined: do you have any specific information about where to get the firmware, and what to do with it when I get it?
[06:51] <balleyne> matt3940gmail: ubuntu.com download is for new installs, Update Manager for upgrades
[06:52] <Flatlined> thechris : unplug the adaptor and post your "dmesg" to paste bin
[06:52] <thechris> Flatlined: i got the rt2860 firmware and the rt2870 firmware and placed both .bin files in /lib/firmware
[06:52] <thechris> Flatlined: agian, no internet access.  the dmesg is pretty short though
[06:52] <Flatlined> aptitude install firmware-ralink wireless-tools
[06:53] <SachinDey> where may I get these pakages "QtCore;QtGui;QtXml"
[06:53] <DrPenguin> SachinDey: in ubuntus repo?
[06:53] <thechris> Flatlined: "rtusb init --->"
[06:53] <SachinDey> there is no such packages DrPenguin
[06:53] <thechris> Flatlined: 'usbcore: registered new interface device rt2870"
[06:53] <DrPenguin> SachinDey: I doubt that
[06:54] <matt3940gmail> balleyne: ok now i see i checked for new uddates last night and it sayed i was up to date but i just looked and i was set on lts only so i am going to set it to normal
[06:54] <Flatlined> thechris : http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=firmware-ralink
[06:55] <Duker> Freshly installed apache, could only run sudo to install in admin account, does that mean the server will have root access? Trying to get everyone on a standard users home folder
[06:55] <balleyne> yep, then it will notify you about 10.10, upgrade will take a few hours for each though
[06:55] <Duker> everything*
[06:55] <balleyne> matt3940gmail: see message above for you
[06:56] <lining> wpoof
[06:56] <lining> 没仍
[06:56] <matt3940gmail> balleyne: it says 10.10 is available will the comp. shut down during or after the upgrade
[06:57] <Guest67304> Hi, guys. Who knows the differences between SysV services and upstart service?
[06:57] <clear`> how can i complete remove gnome-shell
[06:57] <lining> ？？？
[06:58] <tresk> Hi, my Ubuntu doesn't activate my wifi network anymore. Nevertheless, the card is listed in 'lspci' ?
[06:58] <lining> 211
[06:58] <Chr|s> been having some issues with my monitor going to sleep and wont wake back up did this to both ubuntu and xubuntu, anyone have any ideas?
[06:59] <syddraf> Is there a way to reset compiz to its defaults? purging and reinstalling did nothing.
[06:59] <mebigfatguy_> Chr|s, sure it's not just your monitor dying?
[06:59] <Chr|s> yeah Im pretty sure
[07:00] <balleyne> matt3940gmail: shut down after, it usually takes me 1.5 hours for the download portion and half an hour for the upgrade portion of the whole thing, give or take 20 minutes
[07:00] <tresk> fyi, the wifi card worked fine before. I guess, Ubuntu booted once without the card being installed. Maybe I have to rescann the hardware?
[07:00] <Chr|s> mebigfatguy_, had windows on it earlier today, worked fine. installed ubuntu and when the monitor goes to sleep, I have to manually restart the computer
[07:01] <balleyne> Guest67304: you've been trying a few times with that question, wish I could help. Have you tried any other IRC channels, maybe more specific to the question? It's possible that folks in #ubuntu right now don't know enough to help... *shrugs*
[07:01] <ok_wait> hey guys, i'm having a problem with the gnome-tweak-tool in oneiric. it only changes the window title font in the fonts tab. seems to be a bug, anyway i'm trying to 'workaround' this and was wondering if this is a normal looking ~/.fonts.conf file http://pastie.org/3094465
[07:01] <balleyne> matt3940gmail: gotta run, best of luck
[07:01] <matt3940gmail> balleyne: ok thanks
[07:01] <mebigfatguy_> Chr|s, k, i had that problem, my monitor died eventually
[07:02] <matt3940gmail> does any one know were i can download a free xp os from for dual booting
[07:02] <tresk> Is there a way to rescann the linux hardware and let Ubuntu reconfigure the wifi drivers?
[07:03] <Guest67304> balleyne, okey...thanks. :)
[07:05] <ok_wait> could one of you match your ~/fonts.conf file with this one http://pastie.org/3094465 and see if it's way off or similar?
[07:05] <ok_wait> ~/.fonts.conf
[07:11] <ok_wait> anybody?
[07:22] <ok_wait> is there a way to manually edit fonts configurations to do what gnome-tweak-tool isn't doing?
[07:22] <tresk> why I can't play Flash movies in Epiphany
[07:23] <DrPenguin> cause your missing flash?
[07:23] <tresk> But flash is installed.. works with firefox and Opera
[07:23] <DrPenguin> does epiphany say missing flash plugin?
[07:24] <spacebug-> ok_wait: to answers your first question. My config is different in that I use 'hintslight' instead of 'hintmedium' in section 'hintstyle'
[07:24] <tresk> yes it does?!
[07:24] <DrPenguin> ok then it doesnt see your plugin
[07:24] <tresk> isn't epiphany using the firefoy path?
[07:24] <ok_wait> thanks spacebug-
[07:24] <DrPenguin> why would it?
[07:25] <tresk> so I have to reinstall flash via software center?
[07:26] <almoxarife> tresk: firefox and opera see flash?
[07:27] <tresk> almostroot: yes they do
[07:27] <thechris> I'm having issues getting an ASUS USB-N53 to work in ubuntu 11.10
[07:27] <jerichowasahoax> I have a problem with my email server setup (on Lucid) - email addresses can receive things perfectly fine but Thunderbird gives error 10061 when I try to send. My GMail account sends fine so it's not my end. Anyone have any ideas?
[07:27] <jerichowasahoax> I'm using Postfix, if that matters
[07:27] <thechris> When using the rt2800usb modules, no AP's are listed, and scanning doesn't work
[07:27] <thechris> I have the current firmware installed.
[07:28] <thechris> I've patched and compiled the rt2870 kernel module
[07:28] <tresk> I reinstall 'flashplugin-installer 11.1.102.55ubuntu0.11.1'
[07:28] <almoxarife> tresk: then re-installing flash will just place flash where its already avail, what version of epiphany you using?
[07:28] <thechris> When I modprobe rt2870sta, I don't get any ra0 or wlan0.
[07:28] <tresk> almostroot: 3.0.4
[07:29] <thechris> I don't think the usbkey is detected when I use that module.
[07:29] <tresk> reinstalling flash package was unsuccessful
[07:29] <flexible> thechris, hey what is the chip of your wireless device?
[07:30] <gluesniffmonkey> matt3940gmail, not for dual booting but in a virtual machine: http://tinyurl.com/6m5u3pt
[07:30] <thechris> flexible: according the google "probably rt2800 or rt2870sta"
[07:30] <flexible> if it is the same as mine, or similar, you may have to compile from source like i do
[07:30] <thechris> flexible: so I'm guessing 2860 or 2870
[07:30] <flexible> is it USB or pci?
[07:30] <thechris> flexible: I've tried that, but thus far it hasn't worked.  I've patched the kernel module and built
[07:30] <gluesniffmonkey> The NIST machines work well in virtualbox
[07:30] <thechris> flexible: usb
[07:31] <flexible> did you blaclist rt2800pci and rt2800usb?
[07:31] <xonix> I putted a SD-Card into my card reader and paritioned the sd card but why can i not mount the devices dm-0p1? There not exist under /dev https://gist.github.com/1538478
[07:31] <thechris> flexible: yes
[07:31] <jerichowasahoax> ah, sending from Alpine on the server itself works, but not from the right host. This might be a problem.
[07:31] <spacebug-> ok_wait: now what did you mean gnome-tweak-tool did not set correctly?
[07:32] <matt3940gmail> gluesniffmonkey: cool thanks i will check that out
[07:32] <almoxarife> tresk: read and heed http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2011-May/msg00001.html
[07:32] <thechris> flexible: when you use rt2870sta, do you get more than "rtusb init --->" and "usbcore: registered new interface driver rt2870"?
[07:32] <thechris> I only get those two messages
[07:33] <imprint> I was advised to uninstall my adobe flash player from hulu tech support to reinstall a 32 bit wrapper, now my computer will not play any thing, nothing on youtube or crackle, what do I do?
[07:33] <almoxarife> imprint: undo what hulu told you to do
[07:33] <imprint> I tried
[07:34] <gluesniffmonkey> Metasploit Unleashed course shows how to use: http://www.offensive-security.com/metasploit-unleashed/Metasploit_Unleashed_Information_Security_Training
[07:34] <matt3940gmail> gluesniffmonkey: one snag i got this err Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at downloadfdcc.nist.gov.
[07:34] <imprint> nothing works now
[07:34] <bluek> is where the  heroes3 map download ?for linux
[07:34] <renc3> Hi, with a 10.04 we had "lose" the menus (by example with vlc) ther's a display for their titles (media, edit etc) but no more scrolling down and no possibility to "clic" them.. Any idea about origine of this new illness and how to fix it?? thanks.	
[07:35] <imprint> I tried to reinstall flash from the software center and from adobe, nothing works
[07:35] <almoxarife> imprint: how did you install/remove what hulu told you to do? exactly
[07:35] <imprint> they had me do it from terminal
[07:36] <imprint> and from software center
[07:36] <gluesniffmonkey> matt3940gmail, seems the site has changed name: http://usgcb.nist.gov/usgcb/microsoft/download_winxp.html
[07:36] <almoxarife> imprint: do you have the history? share it
[07:36] <almoxarife> imprint: paste.bin it
[07:37] <imprint> Monte, Dec-29 01:49 pm (PST):Hi John,
[07:37] <imprint> I apologize for the inconvenience. Unfortunately Hulu.com is not currently compatible with the 64bit alpha version of Flash for Linux. In Hulu Desktop, however, we do some special maneuverings to make it work. As a 64-bit Linux user, you can still use Hulu.com -- but you will need to install the wrapper 32-bit version of Flash. Also, try uninstalling you Flash Player and download version 10.3.
[07:37] <imprint> More information about that can be found below:
[07:37] <imprint> For Fedora: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash#32_bit_wrapped_version
[07:37] <imprint> For Ubuntu: http://landofthefreeish.com/linux/howto-installing-flash-player-10-on-64-bit-linux/
[07:37] <FloodBot1> imprint: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:38] <FunGoat> clear
[07:38] <almoxarife> imprint: I am not interested in how it can be done, I was hoping to walk you thru undoing what was done
[07:39] <gluesniffmonkey> matt3940gmail, http://csrc.nist.gov/fdcc/download_fdcc.html
[07:39] <bluek> no clear ,is /clear,you must add /
[07:39] <gluesniffmonkey> matt3940gmail, at bottom of page.
[07:40] <almoxarife> imprint: join #xbmc please
[07:41] <matt3940gmail> gluesniffmonkey: ok i might haveto do somr readingv to understand what to do what that type of file i am used to iso immages
[07:42] <renc3> any idea about our "menu lose" problem @ 8h14???  thanks
[07:43] <thechris> does anyone know what is required to scan for wireless networks?
[07:43] <thechris> Thus far, I can't get anything.
[07:44] <thechris> I just now got rt2780sta to load.  I now have ra0.  but still iwlist scan doesn't work
[07:44] <imprint> I got kicked off fot typing
[07:44] <imprint> how can I explain
[07:44] <tresk> almostroot: thanks. I try it that way .
[07:44] <almoxarife> imprint: don't do that here either
[07:44] <gluesniffmonkey> matt3940gmail, They are Windows Virtual Hard Disks. You will need wine in Ubuntu and WinRar to Unzip.
[07:45] <imprint> you want to see what happened, how do I explain without typing?
[07:45] <gluesniffmonkey> matt3940gmail, After that they run in Virtualbox or VMware
[07:45] <thechris> imprint: for large messages, you typically need to use a pastebin service (google for one) and then post a link here
[07:46] <imprint> http://landofthefreeish.com/linux/howto-installing-flash-player-10-on-64-bit-linux/
[07:46] <imprint> how does pastebin work?
[07:46] <bobster> Hello fellow freedom seekers! If anyone can help me I would be most grateful. I am running 11.10 on my usb as I type, and I want to make it my main OS. I cannot see an icon on the desktop to Install it however.. and im stuck. Any advice would be fantastic!
[07:46] <almoxarife> imprint: you don't flood the channel, you don't give me links, you give me the info I asked for, like exactly what you did with the information you were given, can you do that or have you forgotten since you did it?
[07:47] <aBound> bobster, There's no icon shown on the top left that says: Install Ubuntu 11.10?
[07:47] <imprint> http://landofthefreeish.com/linux/howto-installing-flash-player-10-on-64-bit-linux/
[07:47] <matt3940gmail> gluesniffmonkey: ok it was talking it was only good up to 90 days but i think i can make it work
[07:47] <imprint> my computer is jammed up bad
[07:47] <imprint> never had a problem till now
[07:48] <bobster> @aBound - No mate, desktop is empty!
[07:49] <imprint> http://paste.ubuntu.com/787576/
[07:49] <aBound> bobster, Could be an incomplete installation from the flash drive. What did you use to install Ubuntu onto your flash drive. Startup disk creator, unetbootin or something else?
[07:49] <almoxarife> imprint: never had it till you made changes, care to share what changes were made without giving links to someone elses blurb about how to do it, you made the changes, I saw your paste.bin, perhaps someone else can help you
[07:50] <bobster> aBound, I used the one recommended on the ubuntu website, startup disk creator i think!
[07:50] <renc3> imprint: when you go on pastbin site.. you get a numeber... this number ls the part of the adress you give to your friends... they can use it in order to retrieve the infos you 'd put on "your" pastbinr
[07:50] <go9ers999> sud rm -rf /
[07:50] <almoxarife> renc3: he did
[07:50] <go9ers999> hey wut hapens if i do this command sudo rom -rf /
[07:51] <go9ers999> can someone try it it wont work on my ubuntu
[07:51] <go9ers999> sudo rm -rf /
[07:51] <go9ers999> please
[07:51] <DrPenguin> gtfo
[07:51] <DrPenguin> thats stupid and potentially harmful
[07:51] <aBound> bobster, Did you edit anything on start up creator if you remember. By the way does your system support the architecture.
[07:52] <go9ers999> hey linux sucks
[07:52] <go9ers999> you cant even play games on it lol
[07:52] <almoxarife> go9ers999: boy, that was stupid.
[07:52] <imprint> http://paste.ubuntu.com/787581/
[07:52] <go9ers999> you get what you pay for
[07:52] <go9ers999> use a real os
[07:52] <go9ers999> developed by real programmers
[07:52] <go9ers999> not ammateur hobbyists lmao
[07:52] <Libster> lol
[07:52] <DrPenguin> trollolol
[07:52] <bobster> this is as real as it gets you numpty
[07:52] <aBound> bobster, By the way which version of Ubuntu was it for?
[07:52] <Flannel> go9ers999: Please stop.
[07:52] <go9ers999> nobody uses linux except asspies
[07:53] <go9ers999> most programers use windows cause most programs awr written for windows
[07:53] <almoxarife> go9ers999: did you have a question? :)
[07:53] <DrPenguin> pwned
[07:53] <imprint> http://landofthefreeish.com/linux/howto-installing-flash-player-10-on-64-bit-linux/
[07:53] <bobster> aBound - it was 11.10, on a Toshiba Satellite pro L300 - i didnt edit a thing! i just realised the usb stick i used was 1gb... could that be why?
[07:54] <imprint> my computer seems damaged
[07:54] <almoxarife> and he's back
[07:54] <almoxarife> go9ers999: did you have a question? :)
[07:54] <go9ers999> most program are written for windows cause most ppl use windows ur all just a bunch of asspies that think if somethings really difficult to use it must be a badge of ur asspergers/nerd status
[07:54] <go9ers999> but its hard to learn because its a really shitty os lul
[07:55] <aBound> bobster, I doubt it seeing as Ubuntu 11.10 is only about 600 to 700MBs.
[07:55] <Libster> lol
[07:55] <go9ers999> windows is easy cause its programmed by professionals
[07:55] <go9ers999> hence why u cando basic shit liek play games on it lul
[07:55] <go9ers999> ubuntu is at least 20 years behind windows
[07:55] <almoxarife> go9ers999: did you have a question? :) about english?
[07:55] <bobster> go9ers, im trying to have a conversation here... so if you dont mind stfu please?
[07:55] <go9ers999> okay im sorry
[07:55] <go9ers999> i have a drinking problem
[07:55] <bobster> so do i
[07:55] <imprint> I tried to show you what changes I made
[07:56] <almoxarife> me too :) drinking problem, is there an app for that?
[07:56] <thechris> For my usb wifi "Key1Str is Invalid key length(0) or Type(0)"
[07:56] <go9ers999> my grandma died yesterday
[07:56] <go9ers999> and im having a hard time
[07:57] <Libster> that sucks im sorry
[07:57] <jerichowasahoax> I can't send email from external addresses: Thunderbird throws the following error:
[07:57] <jerichowasahoax> An error occurred sending mail: The mail server sent an incorrect greeting:  Cannot connect to SMTP server my.ip.goes.here (my.ip.goes.here:587), connect error 10061.
[07:57] <jerichowasahoax> TBird can send through GMail fine so it's my server
[07:57] <its_me> Hi, does Ubuntu support Gnome 3?
[07:57] <bobster> if thats true, sorry for your loss, but that doesnt entitle you to come here an be abusive to everyone else does it?
[07:57] <jerichowasahoax> I'm using Postfix on 10.04 LTS, does anyone know how to fix this?
[07:57] <aBound> bobster, Could of been a bad install.
[07:57] <its_me> I mean, Ubuntu 11.10, does it support Gnome 3?
[07:57] <almoxarife> for the love of god and the angels, can someone pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee make go9ers999 go hasta luego!
[07:57] <aBound> its_me, Gnome 3 as in gnome-shell?
[07:57] <go9ers999> its me: lol why dont u google it u retard
[07:57] <go9ers999> or RTFM
[07:58] <go9ers999> n00b
[07:58] <DrPenguin> will someone kick this SoB
[07:58] <bobster> yeah please
[07:58] <go9ers999> drpenguin im sorry i have a drinking problem i just explained
[07:58] <bobster> doing my head in trying to get advice lol
[07:58] <go9ers999> are u fucking daft
[07:58] <its_me> aBound: I guess. I mean, the desktop interface that's Gnome 3
[07:58] <aBound> its_me, To install gnome-shell, sudo apt-get install gnome-shell.
[07:58] <DrPenguin> daft? rofl he must be british
[07:58] <aBound> its_me, Gnome-shell will replace gnome 2.
[07:59] <bobster> british?
[07:59] <bobster> you mean english
[07:59] <its_me> aBound: I already have Gnome 3 installed.
[07:59] <DrPenguin> isnt daft a british thing?
[07:59] <Orva> Just popping for quick question: how you disable global alt-bind to show window menu in global menu bar?
[07:59] <DrPenguin> whatever it is
[07:59] <Orva> kinda prevents using alt as modifier in all programs
[07:59] <its_me> aBound: My internet connection is dropping every now and then eversince I installed it
[07:59] <bobster> yeah it is, northern england
[08:00] <bobster> i apologise on behalf of the reprobates that make it onto the internet in my country.
[08:00] <Flannel> alright guys, it's taken care of, lets go ahead and move on :)
[08:00] <DrPenguin> yay!
[08:00] <aBound> its_me, Are you sure it's gnome-shell causing the connection to drop. Could be a dozen other things.
[08:00] <Libster> im a troll too btw
[08:00] <Libster> can i get banned
[08:01] <Absolver> Greetings. I've been having some issues with my Ubuntu box after upgrading to 11.10. Specifically, /var/run seems to have changed to /run, and some old scripts are still pointing there. Is this a familiar problem for anyone?
[08:01] <Libster> please
[08:01] <Libster> please
[08:01] <FloodBot1> Libster: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:01] <DrPenguin> DEATH
[08:01] <its_me> aBound: I have read many other people reporting the same, so...
[08:01] <aBound> its_me, A wireless-b router is known t drop a bunch of connections but than again other things as others using the Internet can drop a connection.
[08:01] <almoxarife> full moon tonight?
[08:01] <bobster> @aBound, looks like im going to have to give it another go with the usb install, thanks for the help
[08:02] <aBound> its_me, Interesting I haven't had a single issue with gnome-shell dropping my connection.
[08:02] <DrPenguin> bobster: try the universal pen driver installer
[08:02] <its_me> aBound: no, mine is a wired connection
[08:02] <Absolver> Not yet, almo. But it's christmas, some go crazy around then too. :P
[08:02] <aBound> bobster, You can always give unetbootin a try.
[08:02] <its_me> aBound:  okay, I will contact my ISP and see...!
[08:02] <bobster> have a happy New Year everybody and keep up the good work!
[08:02] <aBound> its_me, HA! That reminds me ISP's doing maintenance too.
[08:02] <its_me> ooh, hmm..
[08:03] <aBound> its_me, My connection drops sometimes at midnight due to ISP maintenance.
[08:03] <jerichowasahoax> Absolver: RE: /var/run being moved
[08:03] <its_me> aBound:  mine's dropping all day and all night
[08:03] <jerichowasahoax> there might be a better fix out there but you could just make "/var/run" a symlink to "/run"
[08:03] <jerichowasahoax> or vice versa
[08:04] <aBound> its_me, Did you install it today and it kept dropping? Or a few days ago.
[08:04] <Absolver> Yeah, I'm thinking of that, but something tends to make my neckhairs stand a bit on end about doing it, for some reason. I faintly remember something about "Don't do this" being told me at some point.
[08:04] <its_me> aBound: it's been like a month
[08:05] <its_me> And I guess, I don;t really remember... my internet connection got slower eversince
[08:05] <aBound> its_me, Since you installed gnome-shell or since the net connection has been dropping?
[08:05] <Matrixiumn> hello
[08:05] <jerichowasahoax> Absolver: I always prepend my advice with disclaimers (unless explicitly told myself to do it at one point) for a reason.
[08:05] <jerichowasahoax> because somehow someone always has a better way
[08:05] <its_me> aBound: (since I installed Gnome3)
[08:05] <Absolver> Hee. ;)
[08:05] <aBound> its_me, A poor router can also drop the connection, you could try power-cycling the router.
[08:05] <aBound> Ahh...
[08:06] <its_me> you mean, resetting?
[08:06] <jerichowasahoax> Absolver: Also assuming the permissions on both the link and the actual folder are the same, nothing obviously wrong about that jumps out at me aside from possible standards-noncompliance
[08:06] <its_me> aBound: you mean, resetting?
[08:06] <Absolver> When it comes to routers, one of the primary reasons a router will drop connections is NAT table handling.
[08:06] <Absolver> Either because they time out, or because NAT table space runs out and the oldest entries are recycled first.
[08:07] <aBound> its_me, Indeed though some people use the term power cycle.
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[08:07] <Chr|s>  
[08:07] <Chr|s>  
[08:07] <FloodBot1> Chr|s: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:07] <its_me> okay... thanks
[08:07] <aBound> its_me, Meaning unplug the router/cable and or/dsl modem for 30 seconds.
[08:08] <Absolver> jericho: Yeah, I figure I'll give it a spin. Certainly better than trying to bring the system fully up after a reboot/poweroutage.
[08:08] <its_me> aBound: you mean, the adapter/power cable
[08:08] <its_me> aBound: okay. I will be right back
[08:08] <aBound> its_me, Power cord.
[08:08] <aBound> :P
[08:08] <diverdude> lol...it seems that if i in nautilus open window from server1 and another window for server2, mark and rag a directory from server1 to server2 that it goes via my workstation...how poorly designed. When i do scp i get normal speed
[08:09] <Absolver> diverdude: That's the expected functionality. If you want to directly copy from server1 to server2, you need to do it from one of the above, not a middleman. ;)
[08:09] <its_me> aBound: okay, I'll be right back
[08:09] <aBound> kk
[08:10] <diverdude> Absolver, why is it expected? There is no reason for nautilus to put it via my workstation
[08:11] <Absolver> Because you're asking a program running locally on your workstation to do the copying. Server1 doesn't know you are copying them to server2 because Nautilus is just asking it for file X, and Server2 doesn't know it's actually coming from server1, as it is just being fed a file by your workstation.
[08:12] <diverdude> Absolver, but nautilus knows that its logged in to both server1 and server2 so it should be smart enough to find a faster way
[08:14] <thechris> does anyone know how to get iwlist scan to return results?
[08:14] <DrPenguin> is the adapter up?
[08:15] <lingling2012> is there a reason to run a virus protection service on ubuntu? if so what is a good one?
[08:16] <Absolver> There are a number of good reasons why it shouldn't, diverdude. Security for one - even if nautilus on your workstation knows its authorized to access both servers, the two servers are not by that reason alone authorized to speak to eachother. Second is SAD, or sane application design. Which means "Do what the user tells you, not what you think the user wants".
[08:16] <Absolver> On that note, reboot time to see if /var/run and /run wants to play together
[08:17] <almoxarife> lingling2012: lets assume you share files with a windows networked machine/s, you might want to insure what ever you are passing is clean?
[08:17] <intok> what can convert mp3 and ogg to .aax?
[08:17] <diverdude> Absolver, but what the user wants is to copy the files using the fastest connection. not the slowest
[08:18] <almoxarife> intok: arista?
[08:22] <nanobolic> thechris, try iwlist <nameofaddapter> scan | less where <nameofadapter> is wlan0 or eth1 etc. etc.
[08:23] <thechris> nanobolic: "no scan results"
[08:23] <Matrixiumn> bye
[08:23] <nanobolic> thechris, try sudi ifconfig ,nameofadapter> up in a terminal
[08:23] <nanobolic> thechris, sudo
[08:23] <almoxarife> I have a sort of hybrid 11.10, ubuntu/kde-desktop, mostly kde now, what is the worse case scenario of using kdesudo instead of gksu? I did add a extension to kdm to account for gnome apps
[08:24] <thechris> nanobolic: there's no ip configured
[08:24] <nanobolic> thechris, what version are you using?
[08:25] <thechris> nanobolic: 11.10.  the problem occurs with both rt2800usb and rt2870sta
[08:26] <thechris> so far the best i've found on google is "it just started working".
[08:26] <nanobolic> thechris, is there any firmware that you have to load?
[08:26] <almoxarife> thechris: thought about ndiswrapper with the win64 drivers?
[08:26] <thechris> nanobolic: everyone keeps mentioning this firmware.  Other than placing files in /lib/firmware, i haven't done anything else
[08:27] <DrPenguin> thechris: when you run iwlist, what does it say
[08:27] <sabocat> I accidentally screwed up my home directory and can't login. Is there any way to reset it to the default configuration, or delete the user, and recreate that account?
[08:29] <nanobolic> thechris, do you have internet access on the device with the wireless card?
[08:29] <thechris> nanobolic: no
[08:29] <sokak> sabocat, you can access a shell?
[08:29] <sabocat> I can from the install CD
[08:30] <thechris> nanobolic: only with a second computer which also has wifi.  the second computer can scan for AP's and finds a few dozen
[08:30] <nanobolic> thechris, what about ethernet? can you plug a cable in?>
[08:30] <sokak> holding shift during boot doesnt lands you to recovery screen?
[08:30] <almoxarife> thechris: card or usb?
[08:30] <sabocat> Haven't tried that one min
[08:30] <thechris> almoxarife: usb
[08:30] <sokak> sabocat, if you can access a root shell youre on board. You can use adduser to add another working user.
[08:31] <almoxarife> thechris: specific usb, make model
[08:31] <nanobolic> thechris, sounds like you have to have linux-firmware installed to get it to work and possibly blacklist rt2800usb
[08:31] <stickyboy> Is there any way to not request a password when resuming from suspend?  I'm on Ubuntu 11.10 if it's relevant.
[08:31] <sokak> stickyboy, poke with the screensaver settings.
[08:32] <thechris> nanobolic: i have linux firmware installed.  the issue persists with rt2870sta as well
[08:32] <thechris> almoxarife: asus usb-n53
[08:32] <sabocat> sokak: Do you happen to know the default root password?
[08:32] <almoxarife> nanobolic: he was told to blacklist it about an hour ago
[08:32] <sokak> sabocat, dropping to a root shell shouldnt request you any password at all ;)
[08:33] <stickyboy> sokak: Thanks, but I believe those are only for screensaver... not resuming from suspend (sleep).
[08:33] <tron> there is none, just sudo su
[08:33] <sokak> stickyboy, youre right, im trying to wakeup and find where that setting was
[08:33] <sabocat> sokak: Holding shift didn't change anything, still brought me to KDM
[08:34] <sokak> sabocat, at least until maverick, holding shift shall bring out the recovery screen :-)
[08:34] <urlin2u> stickyboy, 2nd post  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1861705
[08:34] <stickyboy> sabocat: The root user does not have a password, but you can become root via `sudo` if your user is in the admin group: sudo su -
[08:34] <raptor67682> hello world
[08:34] <raptor67682> a question
[08:34] <stickyboy> urlin2u: Ok, lemme take a look.
[08:34] <thechris> almoxarife: blacklisting it doesn't do anything other than allow the sta module to pick it up
[08:34] <tron> umm didnt i just say that?
[08:34] <sokak> yeah, if you can drop to textmode from grub screen that may work as well
[08:34] <nanobolic> thechris, try rmmod rt2800usb and rt2870sta and then modprobe rt2870sta
[08:34] <sokak> *yawns*
[08:35] <nanobolic> almoxarife, oh
[08:35] <thechris> nanobolic: like i said, that also doesn't work.  i get an ra0, but still "no results found"
[08:35] <raptor67682> how to play with sdlmame ?   I do :   sdlmame -rompath  /home/josh/games/myrom.zip       and sdlmame says that rom is not there. but it is there and whats going on? permission of the file myrom.zip is also ok
[08:35] <stickyboy> urlin2u: That looks like it'll work.  Cheers.
[08:36] <thechris> nanobolic: though the dmesg shows that phy mode is set to 5 at the end.  In other people's dmesg it gets set to 9
[08:36] <sokak> raptor67682, tried yet with any gui like QMC2?
[08:36] <thechris> I'm really assuming the kernel module never turns on the tx/rx functions
[08:36] <nanobolic> thechris, can you pastebin  the results of lsmod
[08:36] <tron> there any difference between upgrading to 11.10 and doing a fresh install of it?
[08:36] <sokak> tron, imho i always think that a fresh install is less clutter and faster
[08:37] <sokak> (also i broke my eeepc during an update and was having kernel panics - a plunge fixed it)
[08:37] <tron> do u still get unity?
[08:37] <thechris> nanobolic: lsmod will either have rt2870sta with 1 device, or rt2800usb+rt2800lib+rt2x00usb+rt2x00lib, depending on if I blacklist rt2800 or not
[08:37] <stickyboy> I have never upgraded Ubuntu... I always clean install.  My /home is on a separate partition so it's really easy...
[08:37] <sokak> tron, yes, but i got rid of it because it was slow on my eee :) its a relic :)
[08:38] <tron> k thanks
[08:38] <sokak> stickyboy, i totally agree with that, painless reinstall
[08:39] <stickyboy> sokak: I do backup /etc and `dpkg -L > installed_pkgs.txt` etc... just in case I'm like "wtf did I do to get that thing setup?"
[08:39] <blackshirt> Upgrade works flawlesslly for me
[08:39] <almoxarife> thechris: your laptop connects to wifi?
[08:39] <sokak> stickyboy, thats good saying. Im still tryind to find again a one liner i had to dump to a .txt file my current package list
[08:39] <nanobolic> thechris, what does lshw -C network give? it should show something like configuration: broadcast=yes driver=rt2800usb firmware =0.29
[08:40] <thechris> almoxarife: yes, my laptop with internal wifi using some other module (not sure, it works) can connect to my AP, as well as see dozens more
[08:40] <sokak> *facepalms*
[08:40] <sokak> dpkg -L thats it
[08:40] <sokak> *kneels on glass chips
[08:41] <stickyboy> sokak: Not so fast... it's actually `dpkg -l` :)
[08:41] <sokak> ok dude, you can hammer me
[08:41] <thechris> nanobolic: configuration: broadcast=yes driver=rt2800usb driverversion=3.0.0-12-generic firmware=0.29 link=no multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11abgn
[08:42] <stickyboy> I was the one who messed up... hehe.
[08:42] <jerichowasahoax> I fixed my previous Postfix problem, but I have a new one - if I try to connect to my SMTP port, I get a timeout. I can still send messages locally so I know it *works*, it just won't accept external connections. It's not a firewall. What's wrong?
[08:42] <blackshirt> Sokak, dpkg -L was listing installed files by package
[08:42] <sokak> ohh, i shall try that one as well then :o
[08:43] <sokak> ahh, tried and noticed
[08:44] <nanobolic> thechris, are you using just the terminal or are you using network manager? Looks like the rt2800usb is the driver that you should be using as from the forums it says the sta driver is depreciated.
[08:44] <sokak> I feel happy like that time i figured out an one liner to shutdown thunderbird, backup the profiles, and restart it :D
[08:45] <thechris> nanobolic: both network manager and iwlist give no results
[08:45] <nanobolic> thechris, is this a usb or internel card?
[08:45] <blackshirt> Lol
[08:46] <thechris> nanobolic: the rt2800usb is a usb device
[08:47] <nanobolic> thechris, what does /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf show?
[08:48] <thechris> nanobolic: i've commented out the lines that blacklist the rt2870.  I've also rebooted.  rt2800usb and rt2800lib are listed in lsmod
[08:52] <nanobolic> thechris, what about iwconfig re0 power off and then iwconfig re0 power on
[08:53] <tron> where do i extract flash to after i unzip it?
[08:53] <bazhang> tron, thats not how you install flash
[08:54] <thechris> nanobolic: no change
[08:54] <bazhang> tron, use the package manager for that
[08:54] <nanobolic> thechris, another thing is see if you can iwlist re0 chan
[08:55] <nanobolic> thechris, or iwlist re0 freq
[08:56] <thechris> it lists channels 1 to 14, 36 to 48, and 149 to 165
[08:56] <azertyi> hello there
[08:57] <thechris> hello
[08:57] <azertyi> i got an excel file which contain lots of links pointing to a website
[08:57] <hypeBoy> hello, is there any irc client which supports split screens. irssi only supports horizonal splits is there any other such client which supports vertical splits?
[08:57] <azertyi> from the shell how to exctract just only the link from that excel file ?
[08:58] <thechris> azertyi: can you convert the file to a csv file?  that would make it easier
[08:58] <bazhang> hypeBoy, quassel has a "chat monitor" split screen
[08:58] <thechris> azertyi: at that point you shoudl be able to use something like awk
[08:58] <becker_11> hypeBoy: you can do that with irssi
[08:58] <becker_11> hypeBoy: they have a patched version check in #irssi
[08:59] <tron> bitchx > irssi
[08:59] <raptor67682> sokak: I would like to start it using konsole ...
[08:59] <hypeBoy> becker_11: thnx becker and bazhang
[09:00] <sokak> raptor67682, sorry, i wasnt paying attention, can you update me on what we were talking about?
[09:00] <sokak> *pokin on an smf admin panel*
[09:01] <thechris> I've noticed that other ra2800usb devices seem to have a dmesg line about requesting firmware, while this one doesn't
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> thechris: is it not provided by the linux-firmware package
[09:01] <raptor67682> I would like to start a game using sdlmame from the konsole.  such as    : sdlmame myrom.zip
[09:02] <bela> i can't delet  afolder in my external hard disck just iam using ubuntu 10.10 it syas"Hid_JavaDatabaseProgrammingwith JDBC.pdf." is there any help?
[09:02] <thechris> ActionParsnip: that's not my point.  I've installed all of the firmware, but I have no way to determine if any of it is actually being used.
[09:03] <thechris> ActionParsnip: it doens't claim that it failed to find firmware, or sucessfully loaded it
[09:03] <thechris> although, i guess lshw did report a firmware version
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> raptor67682: is the folder containing sdlmame in $PATH, or you can make a script to make life easier
[09:03] <thechris> rt2800usb doesn't really have any useful dmesg output.
[09:03] <azertyi> yes i just convert the file to .csv how to do now ? thechris
[09:04] <raptor67682> ActionParsnip: I do not understand what you mean with $PATH
[09:04] <thechris> azertyi: i actually never leared awk, but that would be the easiest way.  I've always just written a python script
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> thechris: dmesg should say what firmware was used
[09:04] <thechris> ActionParsnip: it should, shouldn't it.
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> raptor67682: run:  echo $PATH   and you will see the folders
[09:04] <thechris> I don't know if anyone else has ever even tried to get this to work in linux
[09:04] <jerichowasahoax> I can't get my Postfix server to advertise STARTTLS. Google says this is because my user is unprivileged. How do I fix that?
[09:04] <raptor67682>   and what ? /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> thechris: should is a wonderful word.  sudo lshw -C network    will show some firmware info
[09:05] <thechris> ActionParsnip: and that one does.  but dmesg never reported it.
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> raptor67682: is that the folder the binary is in?
[09:05] <thechris> the issues is that I can't scan for AP's
[09:05] <thechris> even though they do exist
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> thechris: does:  sudo iwlist scan   show SSIDs?
[09:06] <sokak> ahh, got you :) raptor67682, i have way too many roms to remember names to be launched from shell ;) btw, have a look at the manpage to check you've given the correct options http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/sdlmame.1.html
[09:06] <blackshirt> Thechris, is it possible outputing python output from console to web browser page?
[09:06] <thechris> ActionParsnip: nope, "no results found"
[09:06] <thechris> blackshirt: you'd have to import cgi.  I just used python as an example.  the regex can be used anywhere
[09:09] <thechris> or at least anywhere that supportes regex.  there's probably a few how-to's on google that also cover the corner cases
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> thechris: if you unload and reload the module in terminal, does it give any interesting output?
[09:10] <blackshirt> Thecris, i have a little doing with python framework,and i have some python script loaded on the server,but output show on console,not browser pages..
[09:10] <shaleh> I just upgraded from karmic to lucid using dist-upgrade. I am using dovecot as an imap server against maildir in the user home dirs. Now when I point a client at the server I do not see my mail. Instead I see the folders with dots in their name (.foo instead of foo) and it wants to show me all of the dovecot added info instead of mail messages. I set this server up when karmic was new so I have completely ignored dovecot changes. Any i
[09:10] <shaleh> on where to start?
[09:12] <thechris> hmm, despite having "good" linux support, I can't find any evidence that anyone anywhere ever got this adaptor to work
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> thechris: is it usb based?
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> thechris: are there bugs reported?
[09:14] <Arizona_Bay> does anyone know how i can control my desktop from another pc?
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> Arizona_Bay: install openssh-server and you can connect securely via ssh
[09:14] <williamchan_> on my mac osx ... if i do something like ... ssh my[tab] .. it will autocompete w. ssh myserver ........ how can i add this tab completion to my ubuntu as well?
[09:15] <Arizona_Bay> ill google that thank you ActionParsnip
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> williamchan_: you will need to add an entry to the confio of tabcompletion
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> Arizona_Bay: when you say control, what do you want to achieve?
[09:15] <williamchan_> ActionParsnip: how would i do that?
[09:16] <Arizona_Bay> ActioParsnip like controlling the desktop as if im on my own pc,
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> williamchan_: not sure, I only know of it. You will need to add a list of servers you connect to which you can then tab complete
[09:16] <thechris> ActionParsnip: it is usb based
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> Arizona_Bay: to achieve what though?
[09:16] <osmosis> why does ubuntu use Empathy by default instead of Pidgin?
[09:16] <williamchan_> ActionParsnip: on my mac... its able to "memorize" the list of servers... so if i connect it once... it will remember next time .
[09:16] <Arizona_Bay> ActionParsnip to have access to my desktop through my laptop
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> williamchan_: different OSes do different things dude
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> Arizona_Bay: yes but what tasks will you do on the desktop once connected?
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> williamchan_: you could make a suggestion on http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[09:17] <Arizona_Bay> ActionParsnip just have access to my data and all that
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> Arizona_Bay: you can access sshfs from Ubuntu once you install openssh-server and access your data like a windows share
[09:18] <Arizona_Bay> ActionParsnip i want that for my windows partition
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> Arizona_Bay: you will also get an sftp server you can connect to from various clients like filezilla to upload and download data
[09:19] <Arizona_Bay> to be honest ActionParsnip i dont know what sshfs and sftp means
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> Arizona_Bay: there are also apps for windows to map sftp as a network drive
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> Arizona_Bay: its like windows file sharing but secured
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> Arizona_Bay: if you just want access to your files then sshfs will do that for you, no need for the whole desktop for that
[09:20] <jamesw> hi.. can anyone suggest a web crawler (similar to WebZip) for ubuntu?
[09:20] <jamesw> i want to point it at a root url, give it credentials, give it what types of files to download and let it go
[09:20] <Arizona_Bay> ActionParsnip no no i want the whole desktop. I want full access
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> Arizona_Bay: why, its not needed... You can install VNC but its really OTT
[09:21] <Arizona_Bay> OTT?
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> Arizona_Bay: and not secure
[09:21] <Arizona_Bay> VNC?
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> OTT = over the top
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> Arizona_Bay: vnc is a standard desktop viewing app which will give you access, it has no security but will give a desktop
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> !vnc
[09:22] <raptor67682> I think it is : sdlmame -rompath /home/josh/games/roms   msglug3.zip but not working
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> raptor67682: read:  man sdlmame
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> raptor67682: or try grabbing a GUI
[09:23] <raptor67682> ActionParsnip:  did it
[09:23] <JoshuaP> ?
[09:23] <raptor67682> I need to use it with the console (no gui) . sorry :(
[09:23] <JoshuaP> Oh not me... nvm
[09:24] <Clerisy> how do i get an iphone to work under ubuntu?
[09:24] <Arizona_Bay> ActionParsnip if i download VNC my pc will be more vulnerable?
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> Arizona_Bay: if it is not exposed to the web then it's fine, if it is then yes, very
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> raptor67682: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jaunty/man1/sdlmame.1.html
[09:25] <Arizona_Bay> ActionParsnip is there a safer application ? again for windows user
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> Arizona_Bay: you can use it via SSH tunnel to add security, not sure for windows users myself. I always use web interfaces and ssh
[09:26] <MrCasy> this linux ultimate 2.9 is pretty awesome
[09:26] <ShadowE9899> Clerisy: iPhone is too locked down to do that. It does work on some android phones but not all. Ubuntu ATM does not have great touch screen support anyways.
[09:26] <Arizona_Bay> ill google ssh thx ActionParsnip
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> MrCasy: it;s not supported here
[09:27] <MrCasy> anywhere to get support for it
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> !ultimate
[09:27] <MrCasy> thank you
[09:28] <opalepatrick> Where are .air apps located in linux? ran find for tha app and cant locate it
[09:28] <Clerisy> mad ShadowE9899
[09:28] <Clerisy> GOOD OPERATING SYSTEM MATE
[09:28] <ShadowE9899> I read ubuntu will have great multitouch support next release cycle, since they are aiming for tablets.
[09:28] <ShadowE9899> Clerisy: I feel ya.
[09:28] <Clerisy> dat feel ShadowE9899
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> MrCasy: seems to be #UltimateEdition
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> opalepatrick: adobe air isn't supported on Linux anymore
[09:30] <opalepatrick>  i know ActionParsnip, I have one app using it (klok) and just want to locate it for startup
[09:30] <sarts_work> How can I configure the unity wallpaper-image from the cli?
[09:31] <Arizona_Bay> ActionParsnip what does the OpenSSh do againÉ
[09:32] <Arizona_Bay> Im reading about it but i cant clearly understand what it does
[09:32] <Arizona_Bay> Is it a substitute for VNC + SSH?
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> Arizona_Bay: its a secure command line interface, it also allows you to run GUI apps if you have an X server running on the client
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> Arizona_Bay: it also gives an SFTP server
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> opalepatrick: http://askubuntu.com/questions/67218/how-do-i-create-a-desktop-wallpaper-slideshow-in-oneiric
[09:33] <raptor67682> ActionParsnip:   I read it already, that hte same I have man sdlmame, but nothing is written how to run teh rom. http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jaunty/man1/sdlmame.1.html
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> raptor67682: thought it'd be:  sdlmame romname
[09:33] <raptor67682> I loose my time here since you do not konw
[09:33] <raptor67682> I try another channel #sdlmame
[09:34] <Arizona_Bay> ActionParsnip what you say sounds like giberrish :( im giving up thanks anyways
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> opalepatrick: if you installed the app as user it will probably be in $HOME someplace
[09:34] <raptor67682> Arizona_Bay: Me too I am giving up :)
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> Arizona_Bay: try researching instead of seeing alien terms and shrugging
[09:35] <Arizona_Bay> ActionParsnip I am but I think i'm in deeper then i can handle. a lot of things i dont get ...
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> Arizona_Bay: best way to learn is to try
[09:35] <opalepatrick> Cheers ActionParsnip - was that wallpaper link an error?
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> Arizona_Bay: if you install openssh-server you can connect with putty and do stuff
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> opalepatrick: Isn't that what you wanted?
[09:36] <Arizona_Bay> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/remotely-control-somebodys-desktop-the-easy-way/
[09:36] <Arizona_Bay> what about thisÉ
[09:36] <eric> hi all
[09:37] <opalepatrick> lol, no. You answered me second time though. Just a .air app location. No worries. It is Klok - a time manager, and I havent seen anything as good as it in years. Thanks anyway :-)
[09:38] <lalagirl> hi
[09:38] <lalagirl> hi everyone!
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> sarts_work: http://askubuntu.com/questions/67218/how-do-i-create-a-desktop-wallpaper-slideshow-in-oneiric
[09:43] <Nickinator> Hi there,
[09:43] <Nickinator> What can we help you with?
[09:43] <raptor67682> ActionParsnip: ok I have it : sdlmame  -rompath /home/josh/mamerom/   ../mslug.zip     . I know that it was sthg like that.  It is nowhere written on any boards.
[09:47] <oem> how can I resolv segmentation fault on linux system
[09:48] <Ryllez89-away> how i remove the shortcuts in the side of "aplications" and "local" menu on gnome-classic?
[09:48] <oem> this problem comes at boot step
[09:51] <javier_> hi! I have a problem in another laptop. I have installed ubuntu together with windows 7, but grub doesn't let me move in the menu, so windows (which is setted by default) is always opening. I need ubuntu urgently... Someone knows how to fix this? I've an ubuntu bootable USB
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> Ryllez89: use alacarte and you can edit the menu easily
[09:56] <Ryllez89> ActionParsnip, thxx, i resolved my problem pressing "alt" and right click
[09:56] <Ryllez89> on the icon
[09:56] <Ryllez89> :D
[09:58] <lalagirl> hi everyone!!!!!!!!
[09:59] <lalagirl> how is everyone doing???
[10:02] <thechris> does anyone know how to get an ASUS USB-N53 usb wifi adaptor to work?
[10:02] <thechris> I cannot get it to find AP's.
[10:03] <thechris> I don't think it works in linux, though the support was listed as "good"
[10:03] <thechris> it is listed as rt2800usb, but I can't find any evidence that anyone has ever even tried to use one.
[10:05] <sarts_work> ActionParsnip: thanks, so unity uses the same interface as gnome3 :)
[10:06] <sarts_work> then I don't have to change anything in my code ;)
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> sarts_work: unity is a shell for gnome3
[10:07] <sarts_work> ActionParsnip: oh, I did not know that. thnx.
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> thechris: could go to ralink's page and compile the driver if code is available
[10:09] <thechris> ActionParsnip: I've attempted that for the rt2870sta module.  I'm not convinced that the kernel people know what the device is.  its listed as rt2800 unknown
[10:09] <wadkar> I am doing " mkdir -p foo1/bar1; echo '1' > foo1/bar/baz " and " mkdir -p foo2/bar; echo '2' > foo2/bar/baz " . Now I want to replace foo1 with foo2. If I do " mv foo2 foo1 " the foo2 is moved inside foo1
[10:09] <thechris> The only information I've found for its chipset is from wikidev, which lists the support as "good", and that it probably uses rt2800usb or rt2870
[10:09] <wadkar> is it implicit that I must do " rm -rf foo1; mv foo2 foo1 " ?
[10:10] <KinG`PiN> Hello
[10:10] <wadkar> or am I missing something simple and basic ?
[10:11] <sunken> hi, is there some easy way to configure an ubuntu server just to send me an email with some server status (like hdd usage, restart needed etc.) I already have a smtp mail server on another server?
[10:14] <Anticom> hi all
[10:14] <Anticom> i'm trying to install imageMagick using the rpm packages on ubuntu 11.10
[10:14] <watschu> hallo allerseits
[10:15] <llutz> sunken: write a short script with the things you want, install a simple mailer like ssmtp/msmtp on that machine, configure it to send mails to your other server (with mta) and setup a cron-job
[10:15] <watschu> habe eine partition vergroessert *sda1 und sda2 zusammengefasst
[10:15] <llutz> !de | watschu
[10:15] <Anticom> but no matter with witch package i start , console is always telling me some that there are dependency issues
[10:16] <bazhang> Anticom, dont do that, use imagemagick from ubuntu repos
[10:16] <Anticom> bazhang: i've tried that
[10:16] <Anticom> i want to get the c++ interface for development
[10:16] <Anticom> but c compiler was complaining about like 1000 things
[10:16] <Anticom> so i thought it might be worth a try to go for the rpm's
[10:17] <Anticom> bazhang: any advice on that?
[10:17] <thomasd> hello
[10:17] <Anticom> howdy
[10:17] <darkangel> Does unity include lightdm?
[10:17] <thomasd> I have an issue with gnome would you mind helping me?
[10:18] <sunken> llutz: thank you but it looks hard for me to do it. Do you have an guide url you would like to share?
[10:18] <Anticom> don't ask wether you're allowed to ask questions thomasd ...just ask
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> darkangel: unity is just a shell for gnome, the default ubuntu comes with both lightdm and unity installed
[10:18] <llutz> sunken: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/10/21/sending-email-from-your-system-with-ssmtp/
[10:19] <thomasd> sorry :P. I'm currently running in a recovery consone. When I run the command Gnome-session the computer runs in a video mode/resolution not allowed on my monotor. Is there some file i can edit to reset video settings for gnome?
[10:20] <darkangel> ActionParsnip: I'm installing unity manually from a command-line-only install.
[10:20] <sunken> llutz: ok, will start with it and see if I can figure it out. Thank you
[10:20] <dereek> my battery meter is showing 13 hrs 45 minuter..
[10:21] <dereek> and it shows low battery whenever i remove the charger..
[10:21] <dereek> what should i do
[10:21] <darkangel> ActionParsnip: I'm trying to understand how the dependencies work ... will installing unity install gnome, etc.
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> darkangel: I see, could have installed a different DE, or use the --no-recommends option in apt-get
[10:21] <dereek>  my battery meter is showing 13 hrs 45 minuter..and it shows low battery whenever i remove the charger..  what should i do
[10:22] <Anticom> dereek: don't remove the charger :)
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> darkangel: if you install a package then read the packages also installed, you can see what's what
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> dereek: 13 hours is sweet
[10:22] <dereek> and getting low battey when charged 100 percent is rough
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> dereek: do you have latest BIOS?
[10:23] <thechris> meh, I'm just going to return the usb wifi adaptor.
[10:23] <owenll> dereek: is it the battery that's not charging or the indicator that's not working?
[10:23] <thechris> i'm not convinced it works in linux at all
[10:23] <dereek> yeah..
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> thechris: its a usb thing, they are cheap
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> thechris: try get a broadcom based one or intel
[10:24] <dereek> it was fine with windows and  ubuntu 10.10
[10:24] <thechris> well, its late
[10:24] <darkangel> ActionParsnip: k, thanks.
[10:24] <owenll> dereek: try another battery indicator http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/02/battery-applet-status-ubuntu/
[10:25] <dereek> i have gnome 3
[10:25] <dereek> .2
[10:25] <pooltable> help i went to qbittorrent and try to open folder then it ask me what app to chose how do i change it to another view to see the difference???
[10:27] <owenll> dereek:  what does acpi 1 give?
[10:29] <oem> how can I resolv segmentation fault problem on linux ubuntu (this problem comes at booting)
[10:29] <oem> this points my  /dev/sda6 partition which contains my ubuntu
[10:29] <oem> my generic mode do not functions too, real problem!!
[10:30] <darkangel> If I "dpkg --get-selections | grep gdm" and "dpkg --get-selections | grep lightdm" I don't see anything ... what will happen if I boot without one of these?
[10:30] <oem> how can I resolv segmentation fault problem on linux ubuntu (this problem comes at booting)
[10:30] <oem> my generic mode do not functions too, real problem!!
[10:30] <oem> my generic mode do not functions too, real problem!!
[10:30] <FloodBot1> oem: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:30] <pooltable> oem this may help http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/segmentation-fault-on-linux-unix.html
[10:30] <dereek> dischrging 52 percent
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> oem: have you tested your ram?
[10:32] <docboy> iam having a problem with flashplayer. I already installed it but its now working in chorium browser. anyhelp?
[10:32] <pfred1> docboy you don't want it to work?
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> docboy: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'        thanks
[10:34] <docboy> I mean its not working. sorry wrong type hehe
[10:34]  * pfred1 doesn't like gnash
[10:35] <some> hello, then monitor goes out of sync during boot up against which package do I report a bug?
[10:35] <pooltable> help use xfce how to i change the folder color on the bottom thing thanks?
[10:36] <docboy> when i played video in facebook, it always says flash player has to be installed. I installed it from repository already.
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> docboy: can you give the output of the command I gave please, use a pastebin
[10:38] <docboy> @actionparsnip what is pastebin? sorry Iam a new user. I am using bodhilinux.
[10:38] <pooltable> i got it
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> !paste
[10:38] <phil93> some: please report that against the kernel using "ubuntu-bug linux"
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> docboy: bodhilinux isn't supported here
[10:39] <pfred1> pooltable I hope it isn't catchy
[10:39] <pooltable> pfred1 what ??
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> docboy: /j #bodhilinux
[10:39] <docboy> but bodhi is derived from ubuntu 10.04
[10:39] <pfred1> I'm running ubuntu 11.10 live is there a way to switch it to "classic"
[10:40] <Naeblis> Hi! I'm using Ubuntu 11.04, and suddenly the sound went away. I'm getting a "** (gnome-volume-control:2492): WARNING **: Connection failed, reconnecting...". when I try opening the gnome volume control. Any help? :)
[10:40] <pfred1> pooltable you said 05:38 < pooltable> i got it
[10:41] <pooltable> pfred ok on classic try this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-make-ubuntu-11-10-look-and-feel-like-gnome-2/ I did not like it i went to xfce like it much better
[10:42] <pfred1> pooltable twm would beat unity ;)
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> Naeblis: if you run:  alsamixer   in terminal, is it ok?
[10:43] <pooltable> pfred1 i know i wish they ubuntu crew just add classic  for all of us that do not like it
[10:43] <Naeblis> ActionParsnip, yes.
[10:43] <pfred1> pooltable on the plus side i got my wifi working easily enough
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> Naeblis: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse    then retry the app
[10:44] <azertyi> hello there
[10:44] <Naeblis> ActionParsnip, "pulseaudio: no process found"
[10:44]  * pfred1 wonders why someone doesn't just stick a shank into pulseaudio and put all uf us out o our miseries
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> Naeblis: that could be why
[10:44] <psyclone> is there a way that I can change my WAN IP address?
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> psyclone: contact your provider
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> Naeblis: does a reboot help?
[10:45] <azertyi> it was a time i put a password on winrar folder now i forgot the password
[10:45] <azertyi> how to rescue the password ?
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> azertyi: http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/04/howto-crack-rar-7z-and-zip-files-with.html
[10:45] <Naeblis> ActionParsnip, no. I was having sound problems 2 days ago, then I did an update I found on the troubleshoot pages which fixed it. Now it's gone again.
[10:46] <psyclone> ActionParsnip: is there now way to do this manually
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> psyclone: no, your wan ip is provided by your ISP, you will need to contact them
[10:46] <azertyi> thanks ActionParsni
[10:47] <Naeblis> and I thought you should only have alsa or pulseaudio installed, not both?
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> Naeblis: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[10:47] <pfred1> pulse is an abstraction that runs on alsa
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> Naeblis: yes you have both
[10:47] <pfred1> alsa is the actual sound driver
[10:48] <Naeblis> ActionParsnip, http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=f6b924d923bb1084fd5b8a09a5e22358d680171a
[10:48] <pfred1> pulse is supposed to be more of a multiplexer
[10:48] <pooltable> how do i add paste in folder in xfce ???
[10:48] <pfred1> in reality is is just a bad headache
[10:50] <almoxarife> pfred1: why not remove pulse from your system?, be done with it
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> Naeblis: have youran the netty command here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[10:51] <pfred1> almoxarife I always do
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> pulse always works here, never had a sound issue in all my years of linux
[10:51] <Naeblis> ActionParsnip, yes. That's what I did.
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> Naeblis: cool
[10:51] <pfred1> ActionParsnip maybe you haven't run Linux for so many years
[10:51] <almoxarife> pulse works here too
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> pfred1: since 2000
[10:51] <Naeblis> I had glorious sound for 1 day. Now it's gone again. :(
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> pfred1: how many years is 'so many'
[10:52] <pfred1> ActionParsnip well I have you beat by 5
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Naeblis: are you wanting to use hdmi or the regular sound card?
[10:52] <Naeblis> ActionParsnip, Whatever works tbh.
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> pfred1: still a good few, I buy compatible stuff rather than shiny shiny, new or what is no sale
[10:53] <pfred1> ActionParsnip get original Quake to work with pulse
[10:53] <azertyi> i just install the package how to use ? ActionParsnip to winrar
[10:53] <pfred1> ActionParsnip good luck to ya
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> pfred1: wine works great with pulse here
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> pfred1: it'll run well
[10:53] <pfred1> ActionParsnip did I say wine?
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> pfred1: you didn't say NOT wine
[10:54] <pfred1> ActionParsnip OK I'm saying it now native
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> pfred1: if you don't constrict I will assume its an option
[10:54] <pfred1> ActionParsnip consider yourself constricted then
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> pfred1: ooh baby
[10:54] <azertyi> how to use rarcrack ? ActionParsnip
[10:54] <almoxarife> pfred1: is there a gui for terminal? I was wanting to go gui/pulse, can I play quake on a coco?
[10:54] <pfred1> ActionParsnip run the darkplaces on wine tell me the framerate you're getting on a good mod map
[10:55] <Naeblis> I'm fairly sure this is just a volume control problem, because I hear noise when I try to play something, so I know the sound isn't gone.
[10:55] <azertyi> this is the error i got Erreur de segmentation (core dumped) ActionParsnip
[10:56] <pfred1> Naeblis then fix it in  mixer application
[10:57] <pfred1> Naeblis try gmix if you can't figure out how alsamixer works
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> pfred1: am I allowed to use quakespasm?
[10:57] <pfred1> ActionParsnip isn't that just a mod?
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> !info quakespasm
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> !info quakespasm precise
[10:58] <pfred1> ActionParsnip yeah run the second board in darkplaces that'll do just fine
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> pfred1: QuakeSpasm is a Unix-friendly Quake engine based on the SDL port of the popular FitzQuake.
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> pfred1: its in universe in precise
[10:59] <pfred1> ActionParsnip ah then I must be thinking about something with a similar name
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> !info ioquake3
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> just need wads :)
[11:01] <gm_> test
[11:02] <pooltable> help useing xfce how do i open more then one folder at a time?
[11:03] <pfred1> ActionParsnip http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=60073
[11:04] <pfred1> ActionParsnip get the second board of that to work in wine
[11:05] <pfred1> ActionParsnip my i3 has troubles with an optimized custom compile
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> pfred1: better than my 64bit single core sempron
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> pooltable: so you mean like selecting a bunch of folders and opening them in one click?
[11:07] <chachan> guys, this is not working as expected: find ./ -name 'cdc2????' -type d -exec echo {}.tar {} \;
[11:08] <chachan> I expect results like: ./cdc21234.tar ./cdc21234
[11:08] <pooltable> action no just for now 2
[11:09] <chachan> instead is throwing {}.tar ./cdc21234
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> chachan: may help http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1108527/recursively-add-file-extension-to-all-files
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> pooltable: what file manager?
[11:10] <pooltable> actionparsnip i do not know how to tell or change ??
[11:10] <pooltable> actionparsnip still new to xfce
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> pooltable: under help -> about
[11:11] <pooltable> actionparsnip (thunar)
[11:11] <chachan> ActionParsnip: it's not working but since I'm on bash, the OS is solaris and yes, I know and in #ubuntu, I thought it would be similar but I'm not so sure now
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> thunar rocks, let me check
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> chachan: i'd ask in #bash
[11:12] <chachan> ActionParsnip: thx
[11:12] <some> hi, if there are problems with wrong monitor refresh rates, then against which package do you report the bug?
[11:13] <stevekenya> hi all
[11:13] <some> welcome
[11:13] <almoxarife> some: the graphics driver?
[11:14] <some> almoxarife, nouveau is? ubuntu-bug nouveau-xorg?
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> pooltable: if you select the folders then right click the selection and click open, do both folders open?
[11:14] <stevekenya> i have a problem install canon scanner lide 110,
[11:14] <stevekenya> can anyone help
[11:14] <almoxarife> some: you are using nouveau?
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> xserver-xorg-video-nouveau   will be the package
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> stevekenya: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[11:16] <pooltable> actionparsnip how do i change file manager?
[11:16] <some> almoxarife, yes, I uninstalled proprietary drivers, have no need at this machine
[11:16] <stevekenya> lucid
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> pooltable: install another and it should (afaik) set itself as default
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> stevekenya: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1595801
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> stevekenya: or: http://www.finnchristiansen.de/?p=557
[11:17] <piglit> i am using the newest version of ubuntu 11.10 and now i cant do: add to panel and then add system monitor but that does not seem to work is there a fix for this?
[11:18] <piglit> even the thing that showed me to switch to the other workspace is gone
[11:18] <piglit> i am using gnome clasic btw
[11:20] <pooltable> actionparsnip where do i go to install afaik?
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> pooltable: software centre, like any other app
[11:22] <stevekenya> actionparsnip: i have folled both methods but still sane can find the scanner
[11:22] <pooltable> actionparsnip i look up file manager i go not see afaik
[11:23] <almoxarife> piglit: there is an extension for cpu load for gnome, I think, regardless, its all about extensions in 11.10, look for the ones that will make your desktop to your taste
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> stevekenya: is it the same as this: http://www.bottomlesspit.org/2010/12/23/canon-lide-210-scanner-support-on-ubuntu-1010-maverick
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> pooltable: pcmanfm is a file manager, afaik is me saying 'as far as I know'
[11:25] <pooltable> i have pcmanfm how do i change it ?
[11:25] <flukes1> I just reinstalled ubuntu server 11.10 and my eth0 has no IPv4 address, just IPv6 - how do I fix this? I had to manually add it to /etc/network/interfaces to even get it to show up
[11:27] <flukes1> I fixed it last time but can't remember how, I know I didn't have to disable ipv6 though
[11:29] <MK--> hi all i'm having a nightmare trying to install ubuntu on my new Dell i7 pc. I have tried installing from usb, from cd; 32 bit version and 64 bit version; 11.10 and 11.04; i have checked the iso mdsums and everything! It just won't install. I keep getting this message and then it hangs!
[11:29] <luca3> ciao
[11:29] <luca3> !list
[11:29] <opalepatrick> Whats a good alternative to brasero for 11.10 (using unity)
[11:30] <stevekenya> actionparsnip:help me understand this:
[11:30] <stevecam> opalepatrick, rhythmbox
[11:30] <stevekenya> $cat /etc/sane.d/genesys.conf and make sure your scanner is listed.
[11:30] <stevekenya> If not listed then $sudo cp ~/sane-backends/backend/genesys.conf.in /etc/sane.d/genesys.conf
[11:31] <pooltable> opalepatrick i like k3b
[11:31] <stevekenya> my genesys.conf is blank
[11:31] <stevecam> opalepatrick, sorry, k3b
[11:31] <blackshirt> K3b was kde centris
[11:32] <stevekenya> oops sorry its listed there but its still not found
[11:35] <Guest25947> i have a doubt about ettercap
[11:35] <MK--> hi all i'm having a nightmare trying to install ubuntu on my new Dell i7 pc. I have tried installing from usb, from cd; 32 bit version and 64 bit version; 11.10 and 11.04; i have checked the iso mdsums and everything! It just won't install. I keep getting this message and then it hangs!
[11:35] <stevecam> i wish i understood the logic behind many decisions in the Linux community, like why distributors use things like Brasero, banshee and unity
[11:35] <MK--> http://www.uploadup.com/di-PD3Q.jpg
[11:36] <MK--> any help will be appreciated. It just hangs at this point and it's driving me crazy. Been a few days and I still am not sure what to do. http://www.uploadup.com/di-PD3Q.jpg
[11:36] <Guest25947> i have a problem with the dns on ettercap
[11:41] <MK--> anyone?
[11:41] <MK--> :)
[11:42] <aguitel> how disable screensaver in ubuntu 11.10 ?
[11:44] <Nickinator> Change the "turn off after",
[11:46] <opalepatrick> thanks stevecam & pooltable - k3b is OK with unity or will it pull in a load of libraries?
[11:46] <user> hello, how to install proprietary drivers for GeForce2 MX400? They are not present in Prop. Drivers menu
[11:47] <stevecam> opalepatrick, it will pull in a few
[11:47] <opalepatrick> Oh I will get it. Just got into a massive lost data situation cos of brasero (and me not double checking)
[11:49] <Daekdroom> user, if they are not there, it's probably because nvidia no longer supports your video card.
[11:49] <MK--> anyone know what i can do to get ubuntu installed?
[11:49] <MK--> any help will be appreciated. It just hangs at this point and it's driving me crazy. Been a few days and I still am not sure what to do. http://www.uploadup.com/di-PD3Q.jpg
[11:49] <MK--> i'm having a nightmare trying to install ubuntu on my new Dell i7 pc. I have tried installing from usb, from cd; 32 bit version and 64 bit version; 11.10 and 11.04; i have checked the iso mdsums and everything! It just won't install. I keep getting this message and then it hangs!
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> MK--  basically: insert CD or thumbdrive, reboot, follow instructions
[11:50] <MK--> lol MonkeyDust
[11:50] <MK--> I have tried that a zillion times
[11:50] <MK--> pls check the error I keep getting - that's where it hangs
[11:51] <MK--> It just hangs at this point http://www.uploadup.com/di-PD3Q.jpg
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> unable to open the link
[11:51] <user> Daekdroom, bcoz after one restart ubu have self installed  nouveau which hangs whole screen
[11:51] <MK--> hmm
[11:51] <MK--> what's it saying?
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> child process something
[11:51] <MK--> weird
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> MK--: Tried disabling all unnecessary hardware, like SD card readers and such
[11:52] <MK--> thanks ActionParsnip - how would i go about doing that? I think the problem seems to be related to my scsci hard drive?
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> MK--: install with CD and disable the USB too
[11:52] <kleopatra> Hi, im actually using Kubuntu and have a little answer concerning Ark, it doesnt seem to recognize if an archive is encrypted. It tries to open it but it will last forever. Using unrar is working fine but i like right-clicks on my archives.
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> MK--: in BIOS
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> kleopatra: are there bugs reported?
[11:53] <MK--> ActionParsnip yeah i tried installing with the cd - same issue
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> kleopatra: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=80300
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> kleopatra: seems to be an ancient bug
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> MK--: but if you use CD you can disable all USB connectivity
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> kleopatra: do you actually use a LOT of password protected rar files?
[11:55] <sokak> uwaah, tried lxde, its insanely fast and sleek :o
[11:55] <kleopatra> ActionParsnip: thx, still wondering how u found this faster than me ...
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> kleopatra: http://duckduckgo.com/?q=ark+password+rar&kl=uk-en&kp=1
[11:56] <sokak> question: its okay to speak of krark here?
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> sokak: if its in the ubuntu repo, sure
[11:57] <sokak> haha okay, im gonna find another channel for that :)
[11:58] <ribot> hi
[11:59] <ribot> i have tried out to put some scripts in /etc.cron.hourly and it was happening automatically, but when i moved the scripts to cron.daily they are not running anymore... i have tried to run the scripts manually and they do work
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> ribot: do you have a desktop UI?
[12:00] <sokak> i always used the gnome gui for cron, im messy on the cli :3
[12:01] <llutz> ribot: what's the scripts name?
[12:01] <ribot> ActionParsnip: no
[12:01] <ivanuuuko59> hola
[12:02] <ribot> llutz: it's the same name as was working with cron.hourly, no dots: mysql_backup
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> ribot: are the accesses the same after the move?
[12:03] <llutz> ribot: " grep daily /etc/crontab"   do other daily-jobs work?
[12:03] <FAMAS> where do i seek for spinoffs and distros based on ubuntu but specialized for a certain aspect
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> FAMAS: their respective channel
[12:03] <ribot> ActionParsnip: yes
[12:03] <FAMAS> only, i do not know the name of the distro, i just know the need
[12:04] <ribot> llutz: i'm not sure, how do i see if they work?
[12:04] <llutz> ribot: just create a new job, writing date every 2 mins into a /tmp/-file  to check
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> ribot: could try a reboot after the move..
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> FAMAS  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions#Ubuntu-based
[12:05] <llutz> reboot? to restart cron? is this #windows?
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> worth a try
[12:05] <ribot> i don't wanna reboot
[12:06] <sokak> There are any known side effects in abandoning completely unity for lxde? I mean, i can still work using fully ubuntu, or i may end up with some applications not running properly/some configs i cannot touch?
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> sokak  lxde is basically just a different skin
[12:07] <llutz> ribot: do you have anacron installed? if so, daily/weekly/monthly won't be executed by cron anymore. check anacrontab in that case
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> sokak: none at all
[12:08] <sokak> MonkeyDust, i see, i had just doubts about applications meant for unity explicitely not being able to be displayed properly. Thats a relief, lxde boots insanely fast even on my crappy eeepc
[12:08] <ribot> llutz: i didn't install it, as hourly was working already
[12:08] <llutz> ribot: hourly is always run by cron
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> sokak: you can even use unity in LXDE if you want. LXDE is great
[12:09] <ribot> llutz: anacrontab is there, but i didn't install it, so maybe i have to?
[12:09] <sokak> ActionParsnip, i noticed :) If lxde can boot in 2 seconds on my eeepc, i cant figure how damn fast can be on an exacore rig with a sata disk
[12:09] <llutz> ribot: apt-cache policy anacron |grep -i insta
[12:10] <ribot> llutz: it's installed, the latest version
[12:10] <ribot> might it not be running?
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> sokak: xpud boots faster than ubuntu if boot speed impresses you
[12:10] <infuriato> |list
[12:10] <llutz> ribot: so check anacron, anacrontab, see logs.
[12:10] <sokak> ActionParsnip, im fine with everything under 2 seconds xD If i go faster, i wont be able to keep the rhytm with my box :D
[12:11] <sokak> But i have to admit, ActionParsnip that when i am in a hurry, i gladly boot puppy from a thumbstick ;) Even if i think that having 8 gig of ram is a little overkill for that :D
[12:12] <ribot> llutz: seems to be no logs of it
[12:16] <piglit> almoxarife, i found it, it seems you have to press alt AND the right mouse button to install to do "add to panel" You did not have to use the ALT button before
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> sokak: add the toram option to it and it will scream along
[12:20] <ribot> if i do crontab -e from root, then save the file with a command, what else do i need to do for the cronjob to run?
[12:21] <lnxslck> ribot, nothing
[12:22] <lnxslck> just che
[12:22] <lnxslck> check to see if crond is running
[12:22] <lnxslck> if it is, the job will run as configured
[12:22] <ribot> lnxslck: how can i check that
[12:22] <Andrew_Lee> ps -ef
[12:23] <ribot> i don't see it there, and yet cron.hourly was working
[12:23] <arri> q
[12:23] <Andrew_Lee> ribot, is crontab running?
[12:23] <Naeblis> so umm...I've tried everything, but still no sound. :(
[12:24] <ribot> Andrew_Lee: i don't know, how do i check?
[12:24] <Naeblis> the gnome volume control is back, and I can hear "clicks" when I play something, but no sound.
[12:25] <Naeblis> ActionParsnip, you there?
[12:25] <Andrew_Lee> ps -ef | grep cron
[12:25] <ribot> Andrew_Lee: seems not to be running
[12:26] <Andrew_Lee> ribot, look at in /etc/init.d
[12:26] <ribot> what does it look like? there is something called cron
[12:26] <foleygermany> is there someone online???
[12:27] <Andrew_Lee> ribot, you should see cron there
[12:27] <foleygermany> i have some problems with my ubuntu
[12:27] <foleygermany> can somebody help me ???
[12:28] <Dynamit> foleygermany just write your problem!
[12:28] <foleygermany> ive installed an surfstick (MFE ZME 100)
[12:29] <rafaelsoaresbr> !ask > foleygermany
[12:29] <foleygermany> okay
[12:29] <foleygermany> an private message to ????
[12:29] <foleygermany> anybody???
[12:30] <Cul> setting up NFS, confused... followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo and getting errors. stopping before I break something :)
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> Naeblis: sup
[12:31] <sokak> ActionParsnip, what does the toram does? :o flips all up in the ram?
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> sokak: runs the entire OS in ram, makes app load times blisteringly fast
[12:32] <sokak> ActionParsnip, i do like >:o
[12:32] <Naeblis> ActionParsnip, still not getting any sound. The gnome control is back, and I tried that Natty troubleshoot again. No go. :|
[12:32] <Naeblis> I do get a little "pop" when I play something.
[12:33] <sokak> ActionParsnip, the toram switch can be applied to any ubuntu as well? :3
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> sokak: I believe on the liveCD yes
[12:33] <foleygermany> Hello dear community.
[12:33] <foleygermany> I  stand here before a real problem, I should install a modem (ZTE  Surstick MFE 100) and a SMSServer (smstools v3) on Ubuntu (Ubuntu 10.04  LTS).
[12:33] <foleygermany> Did  the Surstick plugged in and with him usb_modeswitch in the "Surf Stick"  mode is selected (everything worked as described here.
[12:33] <foleygermany> Then I installed the server smstools (here)
[12:33] <foleygermany> and  of course after I did the config revision had to send a text message: P  fehlschlug.In thoroughly what the / var / logs / stands following  smsd.log
[12:33] <FloodBot1> foleygermany: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:34] <sokak> ActionParsnip, bummer, i wanted to try it so badly on my installed os :D Planning to buy another 24 gig of ram soon :3
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> sokak: I had an idea for copying all the OS to ram in the same method but you'd need to rebuild initramfs each shutdown to put the updates back on the permanent storage
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> 24 gig?
[12:35] <sokak> ActionParsnip, im listening :D Dont think im insane, i have a truckton of ram because i use intensively vms :)
[12:36] <foleygermany> Hello dear community.
[12:36] <foleygermany> I  stand here before a real problem, I should install a modem (ZTE  Surstick MFE 100) and a SMSServer (smstools v3) on Ubuntu (Ubuntu 10.04  LTS).
[12:36] <foleygermany> Did  the Surstick plugged in and with him usb_modeswitch in the "Surf Stick"  mode is selected (everything worked as described here.
[12:36] <foleygermany> Then I installed the server smstools (here)
[12:36] <foleygermany> and  of course after I did the config revision had to send a text message: P  fehlschlug.In thoroughly what the / var / logs / stands following  smsd.log
[12:36] <FloodBot1> foleygermany: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:36] <lalagirl> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii everyone!!!!!!!!!
[12:36] <foleygermany> Sry
[12:37] <foleygermany> i have some problems with my surfstick
[12:37] <foleygermany> can somebody help me???
[12:37] <Gentoo64> omg bill gates has joined
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> sokak: the OS will use the RAM as disk cache and speed things up
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> foleygermany: is it a 3G device
[12:37] <High_Priest> foleygermany, just explain what exactly the problem is and wait until someone answers
[12:37] <foleygermany> okay
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> sokak: it'd take a lot of work but could be done, boot and shutdown would be dog slow
[12:37] <foleygermany> if plugged in the sursftick and switched to modem mode
[12:38] <foleygermany> that works fine
[12:38] <foleygermany> but then i wanted to send an sms
[12:38] <sokak> MonkeyDust, i think i shall reconsider what ive said :3 i thought my mobo limit was 32, but then i came back to reality and realized that 1) there arent still ddr3 8 gb sticks, 2) i has just 4 slots and 2 were yet filled (oh silly me)
[12:38] <foleygermany> and cant find the device :(
[12:38] <tiox> Ubuntu 11.10, Gnome 3, I am looking for a way to make a series of keypresses emulate another keypress to supplement a miniature, palm-sized keyboard I've recently acquired. For instance: Super_L+Alt+R = Alt+F4
[12:38] <foleygermany> and my udev rule failed
[12:38] <foleygermany> :(
[12:38] <lalagirl> !enter | foleygermany
[12:39] <sokak> ActionParsnip, a pciexpress ssd its on the wishlist, it shouldnt be so slow even during shutdowns
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> sokak: then have a go, could be good. I don't have a large enough system to play so can't do it
[12:40] <sokak> ActionParsnip, would you like a fresh kidney? i've just finished to pay my graphic card, and i am short on money :) *hands out a kidney*
[12:40] <foleygermany> ive cant send an sms via smstoolserver on ubuntu 10.04 unless i pluged in and changed my surfstick mode (what works fine) cause i cant find the device name/mehtode for the smsserver
[12:40] <benn> when i insert my monitor in my laptop it creates a new workspace..i dont want that ...i want it to display the same workspace how to do it?
[12:40] <sokak> its cheap ;o
[12:41] <tiox> sokak: 8GB RAM does exist.
[12:41] <Spandex> Ciao
[12:41] <Spandex> !list
[12:41] <sokak> tiox, youre speaking of ddr3?
[12:41] <tiox> Yep.
[12:41] <tiox> Hold on, lemme look.
[12:41] <foleygermany>  ive cant send an sms via smstoolserver on ubuntu 10.04 unless i pluged in and changed my surfstick mode (what works fine) cause i cant find the device name/mehtode for the smsserver has there someone an solution???
[12:41] <Gentoo64> foleygermany, if no one has answered, no one knows
[12:42] <foleygermany> hmm shit :(
[12:42] <Cul> indeed
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> sokak  you load all your os'es in ram?
[12:42] <lalagirl> !language | foleygermany
[12:43] <benn> when i insert my monitor in my laptop it creates a new workspace..i dont want that ...i want it to display the same workspace how to do it?
[12:43] <sokak> MonkeyDust, no, i was thinking to ram load just the linux host :)
[12:43] <Gentoo64> sokak, what would be the point?
[12:43] <sokak> Gentoo64, to speed it up to the max?It makes low sense to have ram and not using it
[12:43] <lalagirl> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:43] <tiox> sokak, I forgot what publication of Maximum PC brought this to light, so my information may be off-base. But I think they said Corsair has single-stick DDR3 8GB RAM planned for market.
[12:43] <foleygermany> and where can i go now dont know any solution,trayed all (also launchpad and mailinglist) and dont get an answer
[12:44] <Gentoo64> sokak, you are using the ram, as you go
[12:44] <sokak> tiox, nevermind my mobo stops at 16 Gb :)
[12:44] <sokak> http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_AM3/M4N98TD_EVO/#specifications
[12:44] <tiox> Helps to look. :)
[12:45] <tiox> So yeah, 4x4GB would be your max.
[12:45] <sokak> Yep Gentoo64 but the point is that linux doesnt slugs when you fill up ram almost to the brim
[12:45] <vanderlei> fdfs
[12:45] <lalagirl> i love AMD
[12:45] <sokak> i had a hard time to notice docky leaking 6 gb of ram xD
[12:45] <Gentoo64> sokak, you mean when it huts swap?
[12:45] <tiox> Then when you eat into swap RAM on the HDD, you feel the bite of no memory atall.
[12:46] <sokak> i agree with you all, but filling up 8 gb is yet an hard task, i think that even using multiple vms, it will be hella hard to hit the swap
[12:46] <lalagirl> http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_2011/Rampage_IV_Extreme/
[12:47] <tiox> While I do not advise using it on a system with sufficient memory, for rigs with low memory the zramswap package may be of interest.
[12:47] <Gentoo64> sokak, yeah, i run vms (nor loads at a time) with 4gb
[12:47] <tiox> If you're interested in giving it a try, I'll find the PPA I got it from. Web Upd8 is usually awesome about spotlighting software and putting it in a PPA.
[12:48] <Gentoo64> zramswap?
[12:48] <sokak> Gentoo64, i run them just to give help :) I moved to linux when i noticed that i can run *many windows at once* to help without slugging at all :) Its so comfy to swap on the fly windows as needed :)
[12:48] <Gentoo64> reminds me of when people on windows put their pagefile on ramdisk lol
[12:48] <tiox> I'll link to the article instead.
[12:48] <sokak> Gentoo64, i've been there xD
[12:48] <Gentoo64> sokak, its pointless :)
[12:49] <tiox> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/increased-performance-in-linux-with.html
[12:49] <sokak> Gentoo64, i remember the good old times i was starting dos, and running doom2 in a ramdisk on my old cyrix 486 :)
[12:49] <sokak> 32 mb of ram ^^
[12:50] <Gentoo64> tbh the ram disk thing has been tried so many times, its so old skool. people use it more for temp files then for speed improvements
[12:50] <High_Priest> sokak, dooom :)))
[12:50]  * High_Priest remembers it
[12:50] <Gentoo64> rememver disco mode?
[12:50] <Gentoo64> lol
[12:50] <sokak> lol
[12:50] <High_Priest> yeah dos.. and novell network on bnc
[12:50] <High_Priest> I had that
[12:50] <sokak> Ha! Im seeking my doom floppies, doomsday time in 3,2,1
[12:51] <High_Priest> sokak, you don't have to.. it's open and freely downloadable
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> i play doom in vbox XP
[12:51] <High_Priest> sokak, I even saw a project where you can play it in web browser xD
[12:51] <sokak> High_Priest, handling again those precious original floppies, is sort of a balm for the heart
[12:52] <sokak> High_Priest, just rockbox an ipod video 5th gen, and play doom on it >:D Jawdropping people guaranteed.
[12:52] <tiox> So what's your poison? pkboom? freedoom? zdoom?
[12:53] <High_Priest> sokak, I understand.. but do you have a floppy drive? I threw away mine long time ago
[12:53] <sokak> ohh myyy, ultimate doom cdrom spotted :3 *cuddles the original cdrom*
[12:53] <tiox> High_Priest: Shame on you.
[12:53] <Gentoo64> sokak, did you play BF2?
[12:54]  * Humbedooh still has his first lappy with an awesome floppy drive and monochrome screen of spiffyness!
[12:54] <tiox> If it were not broken and unusable, you could had externalized it and used it via USB with DOSBox or Wine.
[12:54] <Humbedooh> 80mb harddisk :o
[12:54] <sokak> High_Priest, on my lan my ooold 486 cyrix is still up and running :3 Its my local webserver
[12:54] <High_Priest> lol nice :)
[12:55] <sokak> i had no heart to throw it away x3 Think of it as an undersized overconsuming nas
[12:56] <High_Priest> oh hell
[12:56] <High_Priest> seems that doom on the web was taken down due to legal/infrigement notice
[12:56] <tiox> Or... you couldbuy an external USB floppy drive. Oh well.
[12:56] <sokak> Tell me you threw away your old hardware, and ill tell u liar
[12:56] <tiox> High_Priest: I bet. Good things tend to go away like that.
[12:57] <Gentoo64> I'm not an admin here, but maybe to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[12:57] <sokak> X3you are right, pardon me about the mess
[12:57] <tristanStrange> hey all. can anyone tell me how to add this ppa to my system? https://launchpad.net/~dinisnoise/+archive/din/+packages
[12:57] <pepper> hey
[12:57] <Bennit> Hi
[12:58] <tristanStrange> there's no ppa: type url
[12:58] <High_Priest> Gentoo64, right, but this is a friendly nerdy chit chat.. no topic related activities.. (at the time)
[12:58] <Bennit> I've got this problem with empathy: I changed the password to my google account and empathy won't remember the new one I enter
[12:58] <tristanStrange> i presume i use apt-add-repository?
[12:58] <Gentoo64> High_Priest, yeah I know lol just saying before someone else does :p
[12:58] <pepper> someone please assist. what is the best option for cyber cafe  management software for ubuntu
[13:00] <qsd> Suicide en live http://foyermarcinellois.eu/index.php?file=News&op=suite&news_id=2
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> pepper  what do you want to use?
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> it depends on how you want to organise your cyber café
[13:04] <Timvde> My notifications aren't working anymore (I guess I once disabled it somehow, but I don't remember), how can I put them back on? (Ubuntu 10.10)
[13:13] <tata> rackarack guitar processor not work on my pc, why
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> !info rackarack
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> what's rackarack?
[13:16] <Matrixiumn> afk
[13:16] <atxq> after connecting a logitech usb wireless keyboard, my touchpad on my laptop stopped working. I am using gnome 3. When I logout of gnome 3 back into the login screen, my touchpad works again. Anyone know what the issue might be?
[13:20] <sweb> how can ii update all packages ?
[13:20] <sweb> sudo apt-get update ?
[13:21] <sagaci> sweb, and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:21] <vjonsson> it's sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:21] <tata> rakarrack
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> tata  ask in #ubuntustudio
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> it's an ubuntu studio package
[13:23] <wadkar> how do I find/contact maintainer of the package vpnc ?
[13:24] <wadkar> I need support/help/report bug for vpnc
[13:24] <MonkeyDust> wadkar  try apt-cache show vpnc
[13:25] <Timvde> My notifications aren't working anymore (I guess I once disabled it somehow, but I don't remember), how can I put them back on? (Ubuntu 10.10)
[13:26] <willliamherry> hi
[13:26] <Nickinator> Hey
[13:26] <sweb> sagaci: ty
[13:31] <ribot> hi
[13:31] <ribot> i'm trying to run a cronjob but it doesn't run
[13:32] <lishimiao> i've no idea what cronjob does...
[13:33] <geirha> ribot: Which crontab, what's the crontab line you added, and how do you determine it doesn't run?
[13:34] <ribot> geirha: i did "crontab -e" as root, the line is "30 14 * * * /root/auto_backup/mysql_backup" and it's supposed to upload some files which don't appear.. running the line manually however works
[13:34] <ribot> i did this at 14:29 hrs according to server time
[13:34] <geirha> ribot: Most likely, it doesn't find some of the commands because PATH is different.
[13:35] <ribot> geirha: it's an absolute path
[13:35] <geirha> ribot: Oh, also, give it at least two minutes to read the job
[13:35] <theadmin> ribot: The paths in the script might also be unstandard.
[13:35] <ribot> i've been waiting 5 minutes
[13:35] <theadmin> ribot: So try to use absolute binary names inside the script I guess
[13:36] <ribot> it's supposed to be that difficult?
[13:36] <theadmin> ribot: Not sure, well, if PATH is your problem then maybe
[13:36] <geirha> ribot: Typically, when cron runs the script, it's PATH will only contain /usr/bin and /bin, so the best thing to do is set PATH to all the directories you need at the start of the script
[13:37] <ribot> so i need to edit the script too?
[13:37] <geirha> ribot: That's one possibility, you can also set PATH in crontab
[13:38] <ribot> so maybe it doesn't understand "mysqldump"
[13:39] <geirha> ribot: For debugging, you can put the following line at the start of the script     exec >/tmp/scriptoutput 2>&1    It will redirect all output of the script to a file in /tmp
[13:39] <ribot> how do i know the path to mysqldump and curl?
[13:39] <geirha> ribot: ''type mysqldump'', ''type curl''
[13:40] <geirha> ribot: or   type -a mysqldump   to reveal all locations
[13:41] <Spandex> ciao
[13:41] <Spandex> !list
[13:41] <ribot> thanks geirha
[13:41] <gold> ping
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> geirha  why not just exec > /tmp/scriptoutput ?
[13:41] <ribot> pong
[13:42] <geirha> MonkeyDust: That only redirects stdout, not stderr where errors are usually printed.
[13:43] <theadmin> geirha: Then add 2>&1 to redirect stderr to stdout
[13:43] <theadmin> geirha: Or 2>file to redirect stderr to file
[13:43] <sweb> what is ubuntu firewall configuraton app such as csf ?
[13:43] <geirha> theadmin: ... that's what I did
[13:44] <sweb> shotwall somthing like that ?
[13:44] <theadmin> sweb: Shorewall?
[13:44] <ioannis> hi
[13:44] <sweb> theadmin: ty. i forget that name
[13:44] <sweb> ;)
[13:45] <geirha> golden: Please choose a nick and stick with it. You're spamming nick changes.
[13:46] <ribot> geirha: the scriptoutput isn't created... do i need cron to wait a few minutes before i add the command therE? it doesn't even run
[13:46] <curiousx> aloha
[13:47] <geirha> ribot: Yes, as I said, you need to give it at least two minutes
[13:47] <buyung_> :D
[13:51] <gold> *nickserv!irc.freenode.org@irc.jabber.me.uk NOTICE: This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify <password>.
[13:51] <gold> hello all
[13:51] <gold> :-D
[13:51] <anand> how to remove unity and use gonme 2 in ubuntu 11.04
[13:52] <gold> were u from
[13:52] <OerHeks> anand, it is not possible to go back to gnome2
[13:52] <OerHeks> !nounity
[13:52] <gold> anand:
[13:52] <SuperNoeMan> hey anyone know anything about the python wave api?
[13:52] <SuperNoeMan> I'm having some trouble
[13:53] <anand> gold: i am not getting u?
[13:53] <bazhang> anand, select classic from the log in window
[13:53] <theadmin> OerHeks: (s)he said "11.04"
[13:53] <theadmin> OerHeks: That still had gnome2
[13:53] <anand> theadmin: yes it's 11.04 not 11.10
[13:54] <gold> tiger_
[13:54] <theadmin> anand: Log out, click the "Sessions" dropdown, select "Ubuntu Classic", log back in.
[13:54] <bazhang> gold do you have an ubuntu support question
[13:54] <anand> theadmin: i want to remove unity and keep gnome 2 only is it possible
[13:54] <anand> ?
[13:54] <qawsedrf> how do i install oracle sun jdk ?
[13:54] <theadmin> anand: Log into gnome2 and delete Unity (apt-get remove unity) then
[13:54] <darkangel> I'm using gnome shell and the menus disappeared, all I see is the desktop, why is this?
[13:54] <bazhang> anand, select classic from login window
[13:55] <bazhang> !nickspam > golden
[13:55] <anand> theadmin: ok thanks
[13:55] <ribot> geirha: i didn't understand two minutes in what direction?
[13:55] <r_a_f> hi all - can I move all from one partition to other, then change grub2  - system should work?
[13:56] <golden> bazhang: ??
[13:56] <bazhang> golden, do you have an actual support question? please stop with the constant nick changes as well
[13:58] <golden> bazhang: I also do not know why my nick changed his own
[13:58] <VCoolio> r_a_f: you can do that. read up on grub2, it will go wrong the first time and you'll be left with the grub prompt :)
[13:59] <golden> bazhang: where u from??
[13:59] <r_a_f> VCoolio: ok thanks ;)
[13:59] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:59] <bazhang> !ot | golden
[13:59] <hanfeng> hello
[14:00] <golden> hanfeng: hello to
[14:00] <qawsedrf> how do i install oracle sun jdk ?
[14:01] <alfatau> \quit
[14:01] <gold> bazhang: what u use application
[14:01] <diverdude> I have ubuntu 10.10 server ed. running on a machine. Harddisk is now full. I have bought a new harddisk which i want to insert. Can i just turn of the computer, connect the harddisk and will ubuntu then automatically find and mount the new harddisk?
[14:01] <diverdude> its a 1.5 TB disk
[14:01] <astho> hey
[14:01] <astho> im having some trouble flashing my bios, can someone helo?
[14:02] <astho> *help
[14:02] <theadmin> diverdude: Yep, that'll work
[14:02] <theadmin> diverdude: It's just a storage unit, lol, how can it POSSIBLY not work?
[14:02] <Church> if it's preformatted with some known fs, maybe
[14:03] <Church> otherwise you'll probably need to create some partitions & format fs
[14:03] <theadmin> Well yeah Church is right
[14:03] <diverdude> theadmin, ok thats nice. Where will it then be located? And can i make it so that a specific user has access to 90% of the harddisk?
[14:03] <theadmin> diverdude: "90%"? Huh?
[14:03] <theadmin> diverdude: And it will be located whereever you mount it. You need to format it first though
[14:04] <Church> i'm guessing you'll also need to move some files off your currently filled up fs to new one later one, unless you use lvm for it and can pvcreate/vgextend/lvextend/growfs for existing fs
[14:04] <astho> anyone's got a toshiba z830?
[14:05] <oCean> astho: you got a hardware issue, ask in ##hardware
[14:05] <theadmin> Church: From what I understand, this isn't supposed to be a primary (OS) drive
[14:07] <Kurdistan> hi the kernel from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ is there any way to add the ubuntu patches to them? if so, how?
[14:08] <Kurdistan> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/  <<<---- I understand this kernels are vanilla kernels without ubuntu patches
[14:08] <diverdude> theadmin, do i manually have to mount it every time i turn on the system?
[14:09] <devid19> ! devid19 saluta tutti
[14:09] <Cradam> hi, does anyone know of a script that is fired when your resolution is changed by a game?
[14:11] <crasher> hellow
[14:11] <dragonslay> hwllow
[14:12] <crasher> just installed ubuntu for a run
[14:12] <crasher> and it works greate
[14:12] <MonkeyDust> but
[14:12] <dragonslay> but
[14:12] <MrClaw> Should Pidgin automatically set my status to offline when I suspend my laptop?
[14:12] <MrClaw> As in, does it do it normally?
[14:13] <crasher> empathy is working nice for me
[14:13] <dragonslay> MrClaw, use the preferences
[14:13] <MrClaw> dragonslay: I can't find a relevant one. :(
[14:13] <MrClaw> crasher: Does it do it?
[14:14] <crasher> what claw?
[14:14] <MrClaw> crasher: Set your status to "Offline" when you suspend Ubuntu?
[14:14] <crasher> i didnt checked
[14:14] <crasher> but im sure it does
[14:14] <crasher> because, its like turning your pc off
[14:14] <MrClaw> Aha. I don't think it happens in Pidgin.
[14:15] <dragonslay> MrClaw, do you want it to go offline when you resume from suspend?
[14:15] <MrClaw> crasher: Basically, the idea is that when you suspend and your IM program doesn't send a signal to your IM servers that you're going offline, people will think you're still connected while you aren't until your connection times out.
[14:15] <MrClaw> dragonslay: I want it to go to offline when I suspend, and then back to the status from pre-suspension when I resume.
[14:16] <crasher> I think is does that automaticly
[14:16] <crasher> automatic
[14:16] <dragonslay> MrClaw, put a script in appropriate runlevel
[14:16] <MrClaw> crasher: And also, your server might think the same, thus not delivering the messages sent to you between the suspension and when your connection times out.
[14:17] <Pathf1nder> what is the command to extract bz2?
[14:17] <MrClaw> dragonslay: Right, but it should be a standard feature, don't you think? :) Besides, I have submitted the idea to brainstorm.ubuntu.com, and it got rejected, because I think they said it's already implemented.
[14:17] <MrClaw> Pathf1nder: tar xjf
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> MrClaw  you could suspend and when you resume, ask your contacts what your status was
[14:17] <crasher> eh maybe is a program with pidgin
[14:17] <MrClaw> MonkeyDust: I am pretty sure it doesn't change, but I will.
[14:17] <crasher> problem*
[14:17] <MrClaw> crasher: Yeah, since Empathy is the default IM program now.
[14:18] <crasher> you didnt tryed MrClaw?
[14:18] <crasher> im sure when you suspend your pc you wil go offline
[14:18] <akira__> Hello?
[14:18] <MrClaw> crasher: I haven't, because I was sure it doesn't happen (I lose messages)
[14:18] <crasher> hellow
[14:18] <crasher> when yes, of course you lose messanges
[14:18] <crasher> like in windows
[14:19] <akira__> What iare you talking about?
[14:19] <crasher> when you close the messenger you lose the message
[14:19] <crasher> you should try
[14:19] <MrClaw> crasher: I'll explain in a second. I'm testing the thing with a friend. :)
[14:19] <crasher> oki
[14:19] <phiil_> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-recover-deleted-files-with-lsof-command.html
[14:20] <crasher> about pigdin akira
[14:20] <akira__> What is pigdin?
[14:20] <willliamherry> pidgin
[14:20] <Kurdistan> any one?
[14:21] <devid19> !devid19 saluta
[14:21] <crasher> sorry
[14:21] <crasher> I miss type
[14:21] <akira__> Are you Linux users?
[14:21] <theadmin> akira__: Most of us, yes.
[14:21] <akira__> Heh...
[14:21] <phiil_> is ubuntu windows
[14:21] <bazhang> akira__, actual ubuntu support question?
[14:21] <theadmin> akira__: Not everyone here runs Ubuntu though
[14:22] <theadmin> phiil_: You again?...
[14:22] <phiil_> hehehe
[14:22] <crasher> is that a question phiil?
[14:22] <crasher> :)
[14:22] <phiil_> statement/question
[14:22] <bazhang> phiil_, wrong channel
[14:22] <theadmin> bazhang: Please ban phiil_. Yesterday he was here claiming "Ubuntu ripped everything off Fedora", now he asks "is Ubuntu Windows", and never has any support issues.
[14:22] <MrClaw> crasher: Right.
[14:22] <MrClaw> crasher: I've checked with a friend and Ubuntu doesn't tell Pidgin to go offline when I suspend.
[14:23] <crasher> oh so it stays online?
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> MrClaw  now you know
[14:23] <MrClaw> crasher: The thing is that between the time the computer suspends and the server realizes you aren't in fact connected (if you don't tell it that explicitly), the server thinks you're offline and sends the messages to you
[14:23] <MrClaw> crasher: But it doesn't care if they get delivered - it just assumes they have.
[14:23] <MrClaw> crasher: So effectively, you lose them.
[14:23] <crasher> mhm i understand
[14:23] <crasher> good to know
[14:23] <Cradam> what are the chances of not being had a go at for reposting my question, never mind, here goes:
[14:24] <slakcphil> phiil_ do you pronounce your name like, feeel?
[14:24] <akira__> I am looking for Japanese forum.
[14:24] <slakcphil> :)
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> !jp| akira__
[14:24] <Cradam> does anyone know of a script that is fired when your resolution is changed by a game?
[14:24] <phiil_> slakcphil:yes, i have very strong feelings
[14:24] <MrClaw> crasher: So a solution to that would either be to fix the protocol to retry until it gets a confirmation that it's been delivered, or just notify the IM program of closing the computer, so it can tell the server that you're offline now and not to deliver the messages to you until you reconnect.
[14:24] <phiil_> like feeeel
[14:24] <phiil_> yes
[14:24] <slakcphil> ha
[14:24] <akira__> Many thanks. Ubottu
[14:24] <bazhang> !ot | phiil_
[14:25] <crasher> Il do a test also
[14:25] <crasher> see how it works
[14:25] <MrClaw> crasher: Do you have a Jabber/XMPP account?
[14:25] <crasher> no
[14:25] <akira__> Nobody there.
[14:25] <MrClaw> crasher: MSN?
[14:25] <colton_> What is the best book to study LPIC level 1 - exam 101??
[14:26] <crasher> yahoo
[14:26] <MrClaw> crasher: Ah, I can't test that with you then. :)
[14:26] <MrClaw> crasher: But the test I did is this: tell a friend to watch your IM status for a minute (whether you go offline), suspend your PC, wait a minute and resume its work.
[14:26] <Cradam> akira__: http://forum.ubuntulinux.jp/
[14:26] <MrClaw> crasher: And ask the friend if you went offline.
[14:26] <oCean> colton_: maybe try #ubuntu-offtopic, since that's not a technical support question
[14:26] <Cradam> akira__: btw, that was a quick google away
[14:27] <slakcphil> when using grep in this fashion--> `cat list | grep -i zed`  that prints all the words with zed of course, is there a way to get it to print only the words that end in zed and slim down output to a length of less than 9?
[14:27] <crasher> I think there is a period of time, in witch the server responses
[14:27] <theadmin> crasher: You can make Pidgin go offline before suspending by somehow making this system run this before suspending: "purple-remote 'setstatus?status=offline'"
[14:27] <varikonniemi> hello, i added google to my ubuntu online account, but my google calendar entries are not coming to ubuntu calendar, what am i missing?
[14:27] <crasher> not right away
[14:27] <Cradam> akira__: for other links see http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/locallanguage#japanese
[14:27] <dragonslay> MrClaw, do not expect software to do all the job for ya.. you can do it manually :P
[14:27] <Zed`> OMG I've been greped
[14:27] <MrClaw> dragonslay: But sometimes I move from room to room and I'd like my program to tell my friends I'm currently not available, so that I don't have to ask them every time: "have you messaged me? I had to suspend".
[14:27] <crasher> hehe probabily
[14:27] <theadmin> slakcphil: cat list | grep -i "zed\$" # Will search for words which end in zed
[14:28] <MrClaw> dragonslay: ... in case I have lost messages from them.
[14:28] <slakcphil> theadmin, thx!
[14:28] <akira__> Can Japanese gather in ubuntu-jp, I mean is it possible?
[14:29] <MrClaw> My idea is that the OS should send a DBus message: "I'm suspending!", and then all the programs that care would listen and act accordingly. :)
[14:29] <slakcphil> i think i can use python len() to trim the ouput!
[14:29] <crasher> did you checked the preferences options?
[14:29] <akira__> No.
[14:29] <theadmin> slakcphil: To search for stuff which begins in zed, use: grep -i "\^zed"
[14:29] <dragonslay> MrClaw, you could set your status to idle
[14:30] <varikonniemi> so no-one is using the online accounts feature with calendar?
[14:31] <devid19> http://xdcc_97
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> varikonniemi  doesnt ring a bell
[14:32] <MrClaw> crasher: Yes.
[14:34] <tightwork> nom nom nom nom
[14:35] <tightwork> I quit my job yesterday... was SOO cool
[14:35] <crasher> good job:)
[14:35] <DragonSlay> tightwork, good
[14:35] <bazhang> !ot | tightwork
[14:35] <tightwork> but i got a ubuntu related job
[14:35] <tightwork> so its related
[14:35] <tightwork> thx guy
[14:35] <DragonSlay> lol
[14:35] <bazhang> tightwork, not for this channel.
[14:36] <tightwork> !killjoy
[14:36] <bazhang> lets move it to #ubuntu-offtopic tightwork
[14:37] <devid19> !list
[14:37] <devid19> devid19 saluta
[14:38] <devid19> !list
[14:39] <abysiMo> hi guys , i wanna know if there is still something like a mentor , i find it difficult to find my way in this huge learning curve ..
[14:39] <theadmin> abysiMo: You can pm me anytime I here, I'm glad to help out newbies :D I also have a few IM services
[14:39] <Cradam> abysiMo: same here
[14:40] <ioannis> boys  go to play ww.darkorbit.com europi 4
[14:40] <theadmin> lolspamfail
[14:40] <ioannis> www.darkorbit.com*
[14:40] <bazhang> ioannis, dont advertise here
[14:41] <DragonSlay> quit()
[14:41] <Cradam> oh come on, atleast choose a good game to spam with
[14:41] <Negat1ve-Zer0> hmmm
[14:41] <tightwork> haha he typod' his spam
[14:41] <DragonSlay> lol
[14:42] <ioannis> write in google darkorbit
[14:42] <theadmin> :/
[14:43] <bazhang> ioannis, stop that
[14:43] <theadmin> ioannis: Stop it until you get hit with a banhammer
[14:43] <Negat1ve-Zer0> I'm curious....you know how you can wipe out a file (not delete) by doing cat /dev/null > filename. I assume that just writes a zero byte (EOF delimiter) to the file and tells unix that the file is basically empty....say that file space wasn't written over, could you change that first zero byte to something else and get the data in that file back?
[14:44] <theadmin> Negat1ve-Zer0: /dev/null is a constantly empty file. All you basically do is copy it to "filename", turning "filename" into an empty file.
[14:45] <Humbedooh> that would depend on the size of the file
[14:45] <Humbedooh> some partition chunks might be reused for other files
[14:46] <MrClaw> crasher: Have you tested the behaviour of Empathy on the suspension issue?
[14:46] <Negat1ve-Zer0> Humbedooh: hmmm according to theadmin it wipes the whole file
[14:48] <Humbedooh> I wouldn't think it writes all zeros in the whole file
[14:48] <Humbedooh> but it might just reallocate the file somewhere else when overriding it
[14:48] <crasher> MrClaw: when I suspend my laptot, it dosent go offline
[14:48] <Negat1ve-Zer0> I'm assuming it doesn't write over that data though since the resulting file is a 0 byte file...of course it could just hit the first 0 and eof which it prob does anyways
[14:48] <Humbedooh> the data should be somewhere on the disk yes
[14:48] <Negat1ve-Zer0> the data would be in its same physical location
[14:49] <Humbedooh> yes but filename might not be
[14:49] <Negat1ve-Zer0> I'm assuming that the cat /dev/null > filename also doesn't actually free that space
[14:49] <ioannis_> bazhang, What is your problem everyone here advertising
[14:49] <geirha> Negat1ve-Zer0: You don't need cat /dev/null.  Just  > filename  will turncate the file.
[14:49] <geirha> Negat1ve-Zer0: It does free the space
[14:49] <Humbedooh> it would depend on how many clusters the file covered
[14:50] <Negat1ve-Zer0> well I guess I'll just have to test it
[14:50] <Humbedooh> you won't get your files back unless you get down to some basic low-level manipulation :>
[14:51] <Negat1ve-Zer0> yea, I'm not worried, didn't lose any data...just curious
[14:51] <Humbedooh> if you write 1 byte to the file, it would still only be 1 byte long
[14:51] <Negat1ve-Zer0> right...but the question is
[14:53] <Negat1ve-Zer0> lets say I had a eh I dunno...50 byte file..and I > filename so it makes it a 0 byte file...does that put one 0 where the data is effectively telling the os hey..eof is reached immediately so it's a 0 byte file and essentially only one byte of 50 is actually erased on the disk...so 49 would be theoretically recoverable if that zero were changed?
[14:54] <NeedHelp> Hello, how could i set LVDS size manualy?
[14:54] <slakcphil> Negat1ve-Zer0, i would think yes, check and make sure the inode is the same as the original file
[14:54] <ripthejacker> please help
[14:54] <Negat1ve-Zer0> slackcphil: ah, good thinkin
[14:55] <Humbedooh> Negat1ve-Zer0, try reopening the file, seeking to byte 50 and write one byte :)
[14:55] <ripthejacker> graphics issue with my ati radeon 6450
[14:55] <Humbedooh> join the club, ripthejacker  :)
[14:55] <ripthejacker> lol
[14:56] <Humbedooh> tried the alternate drivers?
[14:56] <ripthejacker> but how do i get past installation ??
[14:56] <chrislsp> hello, is there anyone here to help me with audio installation??
[14:57] <Humbedooh> past what installation?
[14:57] <Humbedooh> if you can't start up at all, use recovery mode
[14:57] <ripthejacker> even if i can get it installed i can download and install the driver
[14:58] <chrislsp> I don't have sound on my laptop.At first i had only using headphones
[14:58] <chrislsp> but now aftes a lot of commands i don't have any sound
[14:58] <chrislsp> i am on ubuntu 10.04
[14:58] <chrislsp> do you know how can i install drivers from the beggining??
[14:58] <chrislsp> thanks
[14:59] <DragonSlay> !flood
[15:00] <what_if> Just upgraded the sun-java-xxxx packages on my Ubuntu 10.10 system. Now every browser says java is not installed....
[15:02] <fogdart> hi there
[15:02] <blackshirt> Hi fogdart
[15:02] <Cradam> !pastebinit
[15:02] <fogdart> i have a question about xubuntu window manager themes .. unfortunately noone responds in xubunto channels ...
[15:03] <chrislsp> is anyone here available for helping me out
[15:03] <chrislsp> ?
[15:03] <chrislsp> :(
[15:03] <ripthejacker> how do i install from live usb without the GUI
[15:03] <blackshirt> Fogdart, exactly what the problems?
[15:04] <oCean> what_if: the upgrade did actually remove the oracle java, as per http://goo.gl/x3gcg The repositories no longer provide Oracle/Sun java
[15:04] <blackshirt> chrislsp, what the problem?
[15:04] <fogdart> i habe the latest xubuntu installed. as a have a nice 30" screen the windows sizing borders are far to small to hit with the mouse. what must i do to change this. (old methodes i knew from ubuntu dont seem to work anymore
[15:04] <crasher> cya later
[15:05] <what_if> oCean: Had no idea... thats so odd. Thank you :)
[15:05] <me-1> hi....how can I learn some useful terminal commands..?
[15:05] <helo1> Hey guys I'm having an nfs failure here. The following message shows up in dmesg after trying to list the contents of the export on a mac osx client:
[15:05] <helo1> "[79615.137072] rpcbind: server <client_hostname> not responding, timed out"
[15:05] <helo1> I am able to successfully mount the share and access everything fine in the command line, but as soon as I try to access the folder in finder, I get a disconnect message (and 2-6 iterations of that error in dmesg/syslog). Does anyone have any idea what might cause this?
[15:05] <FloodBot1> helo1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:05] <blackshirt> Fogdart,are you sure ? My xubuntu look and works normally
[15:06] <Negat1ve-Zer0> Humbledooh: I guess the question is now, from the command line how do I change one byte...presumably overwriting the first null byte, not just putting data in front of it
[15:06] <blackshirt> Me-1, what you want?
[15:07] <fogdart> I have the latest xubuntu installed.  As I have a nice 30" screen the window sizing borders are far to small to hit with the mouse. What must i do to change this. (Old methodes (via metacity xml) do not seem to work anymore)
[15:07] <fogdart> blackshirt - it works nice but is not ergonomic on 30" rez
[15:08] <enav> happy new year http://i.imgur.com/jKVnd.png
[15:09] <NeedHelp> How fix bad lcd reported size?
[15:09] <fogdart> blackshirt - in 2560x1600 the 2 pixel sizing border is simply to hard to hit
[15:09] <compdoc> its too hard to hit at any rez
[15:09] <enav> windows border?
[15:10] <fogdart> well but it seems noone cares althoug thay do this for years nw
[15:10] <compdoc> I cannot imagine what people with motor skill problems have to go thru
[15:10] <fogdart> yup window sizing border in xubuntu
[15:10] <enav> fogdart: you are talking about window borders ?
[15:10] <blackshirt> Fogdart, could we resize it through their properties.?
[15:10] <fogdart> enav - window sizing border (for mice) yes
[15:11] <enav> fogdart: you can change the windows size in a better way press alt+middle mouse button and drag
[15:11] <fogdart> yes .. it worked on goold old ubuntu inside the metacity xml configs ..but since they all fucked up the gui nothing works
[15:11] <oCean> fogdart: control your language here, please
[15:11] <fogdart> ok ok .. :-)
[15:11] <enav> fogdart: is way better than hit the borders
[15:12] <fogdart> enav -- i dont want to change my working methodes .. im used to this for decades.
[15:12] <enav> fogdart: is ok but just try it for 2 hours and you will love it
[15:13] <enav> you can change your win size at any place of the win are
[15:13] <enav> area*
[15:13] <fogdart> nope i wont as i work on multiple platforms and this is the common methode ..
[15:13] <sl1ck> Is there any way to remove gnome and unity (as installed and prefer LXDE)?
[15:13] <fogdart> ... and i dont want to damage my brain as much as possible
[15:13] <enav> fogdart: are you using compiz?
[15:14] <fogdart> im using latest xubuntu whatever that is
[15:14] <enav> sl1ck: you can install  lubuntu the unofficial version but is quite nice and fast
[15:14] <blackshirt> Sl1ck,yes,you can do it
[15:15] <sl1ck> blackshirt: any tips?
[15:15] <sl1ck> enav: I would like to avoid another OS (re)install
[15:15] <bazhang> sl1ck, lubuntu-desktop package
[15:15] <blackshirt> Fogdart,yeah, i have xfce desktop with 12.04 alpha release
[15:16] <sl1ck> bazhang: ?
[15:16] <blackshirt> Slick,like bazhang says
[15:16] <bazhang> sl1ck, to get lxde/openbox =lubuntu
[15:16] <enav> sl1ck: if im you i will reinstall because is a faster process with no collateral flaws
[15:16] <bazhang> so install the lubuntu-desktop meta package
[15:16] <blackshirt> Sl1ck,install lubuntu-desktop
[15:16] <fogdart> blackshirt ??
[15:17] <blackshirt> Yes,fogdart
[15:17] <sl1ck> blackshirt: what will happen to the already existing gnome and unity? Or are you suggesting diff OS install?
[15:17] <fogdart> blackshirt -- i mean what you you wanted to tell me ?
[15:17] <bazhang> sl1ck, select it from the login window after that
[15:18]  * dleonardi is installing ubuntu 8.10 on an OQO model 02
[15:18] <dleonardi> wish me luck
[15:18] <bazhang> dleonardi, thats not supported
[15:18] <dleonardi> what isnt
[15:18] <bazhang> dleonardi, that olde version isnt
[15:19] <dleonardi> thats all i got drivers for.
[15:19] <sl1ck> I already Am utilizing LXDE, my aim is to ditch gnome and unity and 'unclog' my seemingly old laptop
[15:19] <dleonardi> if i feel unlucky, ill upgrade.
[15:19] <blackshirt> Sl1ck,no reinstall,you can purging your unity,gnome,or other..or just choose session through display login
[15:19] <bazhang> dleonardi, that doesnt make sense
[15:19] <dleonardi> bazhang: no kernel modules for a specific kernel version makes more sense then i hope?
[15:20] <bazhang> dleonardi, which ones
[15:20] <sl1ck> OK, which packages should I tell apt-get to purge?
[15:20] <sl1ck> I guess this is  the question
[15:20] <blackshirt> Fogdart,try look at xfce config setting
[15:20] <sl1ck> in my bid to remove gnome and unity
[15:20] <bazhang> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde sl1ck
[15:21] <sl1ck> thanks bazhang, what about unity?
[15:22] <bazhang> sl1ck, checked the link yet?
[15:22] <blackshirt> Sl1ck, purge your unity,compiz,gnome if you have them
[15:23] <sl1ck> bazhang: it mentions [x,u,k,ed]buntu nothing about unity
[15:24] <bazhang> sl1ck, the link certainly *does* mention unity
[15:27] <Guest37852> thanks for letting me watch
[15:28] <debaino> how can i repair a broken ubuntu 10.04 lts?
[15:29] <nyancattt> how to enable java in ubuntu firefox
[15:29] <compdoc> kinda depends on whats broken
[15:29] <bazhang> !details | debaino
[15:30] <blackshirt> Debaino,what packages causing broken?
[15:31] <debaino> Details,sorry for that.I tried fixing the screen resolution for ubuntu 10.04 and restarted the machine.I edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf now the system cannot start as it should.
[15:32] <supuers> what did you edit out
[15:32] <MrClaw> crasher: OK, thanks. :-)
[15:32] <mensvaga> Is there a way to encrypt the partition Ubuntu installs on using the graphical installer?  I see documentation on doing it in text mode, but I don't know how to get into the text mode.
[15:33] <mensvaga> I've downloaded the 11.11 iso.
[15:33] <nyancattt> how do i find out where java is installed or not ?
[15:33] <nyancattt> whether
[15:33] <supuers> You can I believe only do it on install unless you are runnning the server edition.
[15:34] <lytithwyn> nyancatt: `dpgk --get-selections | grep java` would be a good place to start
[15:34] <mensvaga> supuers: good enough :)
[15:34] <mensvaga> I'll try that.  thanks
[15:34] <debaino> anyone?
[15:34] <supuers> there may be a work around but not sure
[15:34] <oCean> mensvaga: visit this page http://java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp, it should start an java applet
[15:34] <mensvaga> oCean: I didn't ask the java question ;)
[15:35] <oCean> mensvaga: I just saw :)
[15:35] <oCean> nyancattt: http://java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp
[15:35] <nyancattt> i type java-verion on terminal it say unkkonow command
[15:35] <supuers> whereis java
[15:35] <oCean> nyancattt: java -version there should be a space
[15:36] <chrislsp> blackshirt are you still available?
[15:37] <mensvaga> nyancattt: dpkg -l |grep -i java
[15:37] <nyancattt> ok now it shows theversion but how to enable it on firefox ?
[15:38] <compitz> hi guys
[15:38] <compitz> c_smith, are you there?
[15:38] <lytithwyn> nayncattt: that's a separate package.  It's either icedtea-plugin or icedtea6-plugin.  Both are installed on my machine.
[15:39] <lytithwyn> Icedtea is a java virtual machine implementation.
[15:41] <dr3mro> hello , I am trying to build a package in ppa for ubuntu and i fail but it builds locally with no problem any help https://launchpadlibrarian.net/88777465/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-i386.imgizor_0.5~ppa2-0~8~oneiric1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz here is my source code     bzr branch lp:imgizor
[15:42] <Carlos279> could not download all repository indexes
[15:43] <nyancattt> isn't that icedtea just an alternative ?
[15:43] <compitz> how can I run update-grub in a system thats not mounted/running? possible at all?
[15:43] <Carlos279> could not download all repository indexes
[15:43] <Warbarbie> http://okedoke.ru/
[15:44] <bazhang> Carlos279, try switching servers via synaptic
[15:44] <lytithwyn> Icedtea is an alternative to the sun jvm, and it's the default for the browser plugin on Ubuntu.
[15:44] <Negat1ve-Zer0> hmmm is there a way to wipe out the EOF off of a file?
[15:45] <Carlos279> Could not download all repository indexes
[15:45] <lytithwyn> We'll, I guess now it's the Oracle jvm.  o.0
[15:45] <bazhang> Carlos279, I answered you, please try that
[15:45] <Negat1ve-Zer0> or at least move it (non-sequentially)
[15:45] <area> Good time of day. I play world of warcraft 1.12.1 on xubuntu, but during the game appear a strange texture. Can I fix it?))
[15:45] <Carlos279> sorry I didnt readit
[15:47] <Carlos279> ok. I am going to try that
[15:47] <Carlos279> baz
[15:52] <VCoolio> compitz: you need to at least mount it, then you could chroot into it if you don't want to boot it
[15:53] <compitz> VCoolia, i can mount the system
[15:53] <cement_head> Has anyone gotten tangerine to work as a music share?
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> cement_head: I've always used samba
[15:54] <dr_willis> !info tangerine
[15:54] <compitz> VCoolio, i can mount the system! its encryted... does that make a difference? what would be the commands? sudo chroot update-grub?
[15:54] <cement_head> via mt-daap?
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> cement_head: http://www.go2linux.org/linux/2011/07/share-your-music-library-using-linux-server-daap-and-itunes-1109.html
[15:55] <VCoolio> compitz: no, you need to mount the drive, then chroot /yourdrive (which is like booting it), then configure it's grub
[15:56] <VCoolio> compitz: see it this helps https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Chroot
[15:57] <oem_> please is there  a book reference for commande line errors type
[15:57] <oem_> I 'm convaince by the fact that  our experience forms this ab ility to resolve problem
[15:58] <prof> #kernel
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> compitz: www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[15:58] <cement_head> ActionParsnip: Thanks, I'll try this out...
[15:58] <oem_>  but I m sure too that this kind of book exists
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> !manual | oem_
[15:58] <munzir> Hi, how am I supposed to add a local printer?
[15:59] <munzir> system-config-printer shows only network printer
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> munzir: try:  firefox http://localhost:631
[16:00] <projektlabor> i need help
[16:00] <oem_> ok
[16:00] <projektlabor> how i can remove wine, wine tricks
[16:00] <oem_> ubottu: ok
[16:00] <compitz> VCoolia, thanks, though do I have to run so many commands? i dont really get the "jail" thing yet .  I think i need the commands adjusted to an encryted system mounted as the first post here tells you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=868681&page=4
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> projektlabor: it's a package like any other
[16:01] <compitz> VCoolio, thanks, though do I have to run so many commands? i dont really get the "jail" thing yet .  I think i need the commands adjusted to an encryted system mounted as the first post here tells you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=868681&page=4
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> projektlabor: use software centre of apt-get
[16:01] <projektlabor> it doesent work with apt-get
[16:01] <Dominiol_PL> hi
[16:02] <projektlabor> hi <Dominiol_PL>
[16:02] <Dominiol_PL> fuck
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> projektlabor: sudo apt-get --purge remove wine   should do that
[16:03] <projektlabor> no wine is allready installed
[16:03] <munzir> ActionParsnip: thanks, in cups page I found an option of local printer, I choose it and it asked me for an ipp, I expected to have something like : HP, Cannon, .. where I can choose a model
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> projektlabor: I thought you wanted to remove it..
[16:03] <VCoolio> compitz: sorry, can't help with the encrypted stuff
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> munzir: that's the old school method :)
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> munzir: you can click to detect new printers
[16:04] <projektlabor> my wine is still installed
[16:05] <compitz> VCoolio, with this cheat, the system hd is mounted into root, does this help? how do I chroot to this device? and could I run update grub then?
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> projektlabor: can you give a pastebin of:  dpkg -l | grep -i wine; lsb_release -a        Thanks
[16:05] <compitz> VCoolio, with this cheat, the system hd is mounted into root--thats the device's NAME - , does this help? how do I chroot to this device? and could I run update grub then?
[16:05] <projektlabor> im try it
[16:06] <Carlos279> Could not download all repository indexes. I went to synaptic and chosen reload button and the issue persist
[16:06] <compitz> VCoolio, SORRY; NOW: with this cheat, the system hd is mounted into "root" --thats the device's NAME - , does this help? how do I chroot to this device? and could I run update grub then?
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> Carlos279: can you give the output of:  sudo apt-get update      use a pastebin to host
[16:08] <Carlos279> hold on
[16:08] <Carlos279> please
[16:09] <projektlabor> wine not recognize my windows files
[16:10] <projektlabor> my wine not recognize my windows files
[16:10] <projektlabor> please need help
[16:10] <bazhang> projektlabor, you just removed it
[16:11] <root> irc.anonops.li
[16:11] <auronandace> !rootirc | root
[16:12] <VCoolio> compitz: check where the drive is mounted (run 'mount'), then: chroot /mount/point /bin/bash, then: edit grub configs and update grub
[16:12] <oem_> what about ping role in web
[16:12] <oem_> what about ping role in web mastering
[16:12] <projektlabor> how can I remove it, I've tried it already with the
[16:12] <projektlabor> Software Center, and apt-get with the console with - reset
[16:13] <dr_willis> oem_:  you may want to ask a more clear question.
[16:13] <dr_willis> projektlabor:  clarify what you mean.
[16:13] <mensvaga> aren't there ubuntu support channels in other languages?
[16:13] <mensvaga> projektlabor: what is your native language?
[16:13] <dr_willis> mensvaga:  lost of them
[16:13] <projektlabor> wie kann ich es entfernen, ich habe es schon versucht mit dem
[16:13] <projektlabor> software cente, apt-get und mit der consolen mit --reset
[16:13] <dr_willis> Lots of them. :)
[16:14] <mensvaga> german
[16:14] <dr_willis> removeing wine via the package manager - will not remove windows apps the user installed.
[16:14] <mensvaga> what's the german channle? ubuntu-de?
[16:14] <dr_willis> !de
[16:14] <oem_> dr_willis: what 's "ping" role at command line?
[16:14] <dr_willis> oem_:  to check network conectity to other machines.
[16:15] <sagredo> hello friends - today when I try to boot my Ubuntu 11.10 it never reaches GRUB and my monitor writes "OUT OF RANGE 60 Hz / 63 Khz"
[16:15] <sagredo> what in the world
[16:15] <sagredo> right?
[16:15] <dr_willis> oem_:  http://linux.die.net/man/8/ping
[16:15] <falcom> hey guys, file -i doesnt seem to report the encoding of the file for me. it just reports "<filename> text/xml"
[16:15] <oem_> dr_willis : ok
[16:15] <dschuett> is there a rule of thumb for the order your partitions should be in (e.g /swap, /boot/, /)?
[16:15] <DragonSlay> !ping
[16:15] <auronandace> dschuett: not really, the order doesn't matter
[16:16] <dr_willis> dschuett:  ages ago people would argue that swap should be on the start, or the end of the hd.. these days i dont think it matters.
[16:16] <dr_willis> dschuett:  ages ago /boot/ was normally befor the 1024 cylinder boundry to make up for lilo limitations also..
[16:16] <sagredo> hello friends - today when I try to boot my Ubuntu 11.10 it never reaches GRUB and my monitor writes "OUT OF RANGE 60 Hz / 63 Khz"
[16:16] <dr_willis> dschuett:  i normally do /boot   /   /home then swap.
[16:17] <sagredo> do you think I should boot with liveCD and try to fix errors or something?
[16:17] <dr_willis> sagredo:   grub has settings to use differnt resolution and modes for its menu. it has a 'text' only display option that should always work. or try a lower res. In any case. grub should still work if its just not seen. and boot the first entry automatically
[16:18] <sagredo> ah yes
[16:18] <sagredo> dr_willis
[16:18] <sagredo> I do note hard drive activity on the LED
[16:18] <compitz> can anyone help here?
[16:18] <compdoc> good question
[16:18] <sagredo> DON'T JUMP
[16:18] <dr_willis> sagredo:  so the system does eventually boot to the desktop?
[16:18] <sagredo> dr_willis no idea
[16:19] <sagredo> I should probably try entering a password and listen for boot sound
[16:19] <dr_willis> sagredo:  let it boot for a while and see i guess.. if it gets to the desktop, tweak your grub configs.
[16:19] <dschuett> dr_willis: thanks for the input. Does the /boot partition need to be a primary partition?
[16:19] <dr_willis> password?
[16:19] <dr_willis> dschuett:  i always make mine a primary.
[16:19] <sagredo> dr_willis you know I cannot even see anything though
[16:19] <sagredo> how would I tweak my grub?
[16:19] <sagredo> via liveCD?
[16:19] <chris_lsp> anyone who can help me with ALSA???
[16:19] <dr_willis> sagredo:  for my systems grub is unseen BUT the desktop eventually comes up.
[16:20] <sagredo> I will mess around
[16:20] <sagredo> thanks
[16:20] <Carlos656> ActionParsnip r u there ?
[16:20] <ubuntufreak> sagredo: did you update the additional hardware drivers for ( if any) of your graphic cards ?
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Carlos656: jaunty is EOL, no longer supported
[16:21] <chris_lsp> Please, i'm so sorry for spamming but really I'm so close to punch my screen!
[16:21] <vivanov> cant install a package using apt-build : 'E: The value 'apt-build' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources'
[16:21] <and471> ,
[16:22] <spazthegoat> Good morning =) Does anyone know if it's possible to configure individual virtual machines to use a proxy [not just ie or firefox, but the entire virtual machine]
[16:23] <theadmin> spazthegoat: I beleive so ; create a shortcut to something like: PROXY=yourproxy.example.org VBoxManage startvm "your_vm_name"
[16:23] <theadmin> spazthegoat: And use that
[16:23] <theadmin> spazthegoat: Well, that's if you use VirtualBox
[16:24] <spazthegoat> Currently using VMware, but if it's that easy under virtualbox, I'll go that route
[16:25] <theadmin> spazthegoat: Basically, if VMWare has a command-line way of starting a VM and reads the $PROXY variable, that will work almost the same.
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> spazthegoat: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1575
[16:25] <spazthegoat> very good. Trying to use bluestacks to do android emulation testing for an app but it blocks out after more than certain connection of ips
[16:27] <spazthegoat> sorry that I had to come in here to ask. My google fu was lacking and running me in circles, so thanks for the pointers in the right direction
[16:27] <theadmin> spazthegoat: That's okay lol
[16:27] <r_a_f> what file system is good readable from windo.. and it works under linux/ubuntu?
[16:28] <helo1> NTFS
[16:28] <graingert> does anyone have a live usb image of 11.10 with gnome shell installed?
[16:28] <r_a_f> ooo thx?
[16:28] <r_a_f> :)
[16:28] <theadmin> graingert: lol what's the point, use the regular and install gnome-shell later
[16:28] <graingert> r_a_f: but don't use it as your root FS
[16:28] <graingert> theadmin: just as a demo
[16:28] <Carlos656> ActionParsnip: how can i fix then ?
[16:29] <flukes1> I'm trying some 3.1+ kernels on my oneiric install there seems to be a problem with nvidia drivers; whenever I boot into one (i've tried 3.1.0, 3.1.5, 3.1.6) there is an oops in dmesg
[16:29] <theadmin> graingert: http://ubuntu-gs-remix.sourceforge.net/p/home/
[16:29] <flukes1> this is on i386 (it worked on 3.1.4 x64)
[16:29] <flukes1> anyone know of a way to get this working?
[16:30] <ntiy> I try to cp file and I get message "file is busy". how do i fix it? thanks
[16:30] <MahaVishnu> ntiy~ use sudo ?
[16:30] <Carlos656> ActionParsnip r u there ?
[16:30] <graingert> theadmin: I don't want it replaced - just available as well :p
[16:30] <flukes1> here's the log http://pastebin.com/0ZFet1Wp
[16:30] <ntiy> I d not have sudo on the system
[16:30] <DarkStar1> Is a remote desktop viewer installed by default in ubuntu 11.10
[16:30] <munzir> ActionParsnip: I don't understand why they removed the old school method! may be it's not autodetected properly
[16:30] <DarkStar1> ?
[16:30] <graingert> theadmin: ie these guys don't have ubuntu-desktop installed
[16:30] <theadmin> graingert: Okay, I don't think I know of anything like that.
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> munzir: its always there and always will be :)
[16:31] <DarkStar1> If not what would be the easiest?
[16:31] <dr_willis> graingert:  theres some remastered unofficial  variants ive seen mentioned.. but never tried them. Check google, webupd8 or omgubuntu blog sites perhaps.
[16:31] <dr_willis> DarkStar1:  connecting over local lan? or internet?
[16:32] <DarkStar1> dr_willis: local
[16:32] <dr_willis> DarkStar1:  gnome used to have vino, or use some other vnc variant.
[16:32] <dr_willis> DarkStar1:  if you want to view the current desktop on the remote. vino i think does it.. vnc has other advanced features for 'hidden' desktops.
[16:35] <oem_> for experience of each own , in how many time can somebody build a minimal OS
[16:35] <MahaVishnu> oem_: ?
[16:35] <MonkeyDust> oem_  depends on what you require
[16:35] <theadmin> oem_: Check out LFS... Not this channel
[16:35] <DarkStar1> dr_willis: I want to setup a local server so I can RD into it
[16:36] <oem_> MonkeyDust: what for exemple
[16:36] <DarkStar1> not sure which will be better for local connection, tight/vnc4server
[16:36] <oem_> MonkeyDust: what for exemple, please share with me some comparaison to fix me
[16:37] <oem_> is LFS the only way to build a minimal OS?
[16:37] <bazhang> !minimal | oem_ no
[16:37] <Carlos656> ActionParsnip ?
[16:38] <dr_willis> DarkStar1:  depends on the details of what you are doing and how.  I just use ssh and x forwarding to get remote gui apps from my server on my local box. No need to share a whole desktop.
[16:39] <dr_willis> oem_:  theres no need to be messing me..
[16:39] <dr_willis> messeging. :)
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: what are you doing on the remote box?
[16:39] <DarkStar1> ActionParsnip: I want to set iy up to accept connections locaally
[16:40] <dr_willis> oem_:  if you want a small linux setup. the tinycorelinux disrto is very handy. starts at 10mb with a gui.
[16:40] <DarkStar1> wanted to find out if there was a default server installed
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: yes but to achieve what?
[16:40] <DarkStar1> Just to have the box Headless.
[16:40] <DarkStar1> ActionParsnip: i.e. no keyboard no mouse
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: there is a default installed, just not activated
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: you can use ssh to update and that sort of thing
[16:41] <DarkStar1> isHow do I activate it
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: http://stevenharman.net/blog/archive/2008/12/13/vnc-to-a-headless-ubuntu-box.aspx
[16:41] <DarkStar1> ActionParsnip: I know but I need a remote desktop view for one of those times when I want to browse the file system visually to look for solmething
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: using web UIs and SSH is much sleeker
[16:42] <d3ngar> Hi there
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: you can share folders with samba and access them as windows shares
[16:42] <d3ngar> I seem to be unable to connect from one Ubuntu 11.10 to another Ubuntu 11.10 via Samba
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: no need for full desktop view at all
[16:42] <d3ngar> I get the dreaded unable to mount command
[16:42] <DarkStar1> ActionParsnip: it'll only be accessed locally so I don't need anything secure or complicated
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: its easier, not secure or complicated, samba is easy to setup
[16:43] <b1tbkt> is there an accepted way to load a preseed config based upon environment? for example if I check processor type and it is intel, use preseed-intel.cfg or if it is amd, use preseed-amd.cfg
[16:43] <DarkStar1> ActionParsnip: aaahh yes samba! forgot about that
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: you can then map a network drive and browse the files from windows, or mount the share using nautilus
[16:43]  * ActionParsnip shrugs
[16:43] <DarkStar1> I can mount it and an external FS
[16:44] <claudio_70> ciao
[16:44] <dr_willis> DarkStar1:  remote file access from one linux box to another linux box?
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: yes, using nautilus or map it as a network drive in windows
[16:44] <DarkStar1> Ok I'll go set it up now, but I still need the local RD so I can carry on setting up the box. I can't borrow the screen attached to it for much longer
[16:45] <DarkStar1> ActionParsnip: Not worried about using it from a Winbox
[16:46] <DarkStar1> ActionParsnip: what web UI do you suggest?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: for what service?
[16:47] <DarkStar1> RD view
[16:47] <dr_willis> !vnc | DarkStar1
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: not sue there
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> *sure
[16:48] <DarkStar1> ActionParsnip: I thought you said a server is installed by default juust not switched on?
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: vino is in the desktop, not sure in the server
[16:49] <DarkStar1> I just wanted to know before going to install vnc or tight vnc
[16:50] <d3ngar> I'm struggling with setting up my Samba server: I get the "Unable to mount location" error on the client
[16:50] <d3ngar> system-config-samba gives me an error saying that the module 'glade' is missing
[16:52] <Gentoo64> ^ ^
[16:52] <Gentoo64> 0 0
[16:52] <Gentoo64>  o
[16:52] <Gentoo64>  _
[16:52] <FloodBot1> Gentoo64: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:53] <MahaVishnu> d3ngar: on the client do a smbclient -L ip.of.server
[16:54] <d3ngar> NT_STATUS_INVALID_NETWORK_RESPONSE
[16:54] <d3ngar> Is what I get back
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> d3ngar: can you ping the IP?
[16:54] <d3ngar> i can ping the IP though
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> :)
[16:55] <d3ngar> :)
[16:55] <d3ngar> Well
[16:55] <MahaVishnu> d3ngar: sry never had that problem with samba
[16:55] <d3ngar> I also don't know why the system-config-sambe doesn't work
[16:55] <d3ngar> :(
[16:56] <MahaVishnu> what do you need that for? you can hand edit the config file if you need to
[16:56] <d3ngar> Yes, I know but it's a pain in the testees!
[16:56] <MahaVishnu> not really ;-\
[16:58] <Carlos656> ActionParsnip ?
[16:59] <MahaVishnu> should have named your self RegretCabbage
[17:00] <Carlos656> ActionParsnip r u there ?
[17:01] <XiaolinDraconis> i wanna make a dvd that autoplays in windows and linux. loaded with retro roms. can someone point me to the right channel?
[17:01] <MahaVishnu> XiaolinDraconis: nope
[17:01] <satty> how to enable input method
[17:02] <XiaolinDraconis> MahaVishnu, as in not gonna happen? mission impossible?
[17:02] <MahaVishnu> anything is possible under the yellow sun
[17:02] <XiaolinDraconis> thats what i thought
[17:03] <XiaolinDraconis> i want a disc that has the programs to play these games
[17:03] <XiaolinDraconis> so i can play it on any machine without installing anything
[17:03] <MahaVishnu> so put the binaries required in a folder linux and win32
[17:03] <MahaVishnu> and the roms in another
[17:04] <XiaolinDraconis> thats what i would assume but im quite positive there's more to it
[17:04] <XiaolinDraconis> i know how it works and what not its just the linux side of things is foreign
[17:05] <XiaolinDraconis> there's too many "program files" folders on linux
[17:05] <MahaVishnu> well first off. you would probably need a script for linux
[17:05] <XiaolinDraconis> i can write scripts
[17:05] <ribot> my damned cron doesn't work
[17:05] <XiaolinDraconis> well its more of a copy n paste thing but its an educated copy paste
[17:05] <ribot> how can it work?
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: what system for, there are emulators in the repos
[17:06] <MahaVishnu> I know you can make linux autorun a dvd. does it use the same autorun file as windows? do some research
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> ribot: tried a reboot?
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> MahaVishnu: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[17:07] <MahaVishnu> ActionParsnip: ??
[17:07] <XiaolinDraconis> ActionParsnip, im gonna have my fave mame, snes, sega, psx games on one disc
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> MahaVishnu: its a terminal command
[17:07] <ribot> ActionParsnip: no, it's not really a good alternative
[17:07] <guest2342> question: I have zero ubuntu experience. I installed wine, it says I should run a command in the folder. I don't see any command line in the folder window.
[17:07] <guest2342> there isn't any command line at all
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: i see, there are emulators for all, obviously you will need your Playstation ROMS to get the playstation emulator running
[17:08] <MahaVishnu> ActionParsnip: I know just not sure why you want ME to run it.
[17:08] <XiaolinDraconis> MahaVishnu, no it doest use the same autorun feat. i know how that works
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> guest2342: press CTRL+Alt+T to get a terminal
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> MahaVishnu: yes, its needed to help you...
[17:08] <MahaVishnu> XiaolinDraconis: then figure out how it works for linux and have both windows autorun + linux on the dvd + the binaries + roms
[17:08] <czz> I'd like to be able to click to any location on a command line and then insert/delete text there. How can i do this?
[17:09] <MahaVishnu> ActionParsnip: I have no problem right now :-)
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> MahaVishnu: i thought you wanted autorun for dvd?
[17:09] <XiaolinDraconis> ActionParsnip, i already have the emu's installed i wanna know how i would go about getting them to run from a dvd. and maha was stating that to help me
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> MahaVishnu: do you mean video dvd or data?
[17:09] <chrislsp> Hello, I have a problem with my soundcard. I can hear sound only from headphones and not from the laptop speakers. Any ideas??
[17:09] <chrislsp> thank you
[17:09] <XiaolinDraconis> ActionParsnip, he has no issue
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> chrislsp: what make and model laptop?
[17:09] <MahaVishnu> ActionParsnip: thats XiaolinDraconis and he wants an autorun dvd for snes emulator or something to work on linux + windows
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> MahaVishnu: ahhh I seeeee
[17:10] <munzir> ActionParsnip: sorry but I am still lost, I want to add an hp monitor with specific model, how can I do this?
[17:10] <chrislsp> ActionParsnip i know it's an amilo
[17:10] <MahaVishnu> ActionParsnip: and we simply need to know how to make it autorun on linux.
[17:10] <munzir> ActionParsnip: sorry I mean hp printer
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> munzir: HPLIP will pick that up and install it for you
[17:11] <munzir> ActionParsnip: now I don't have it connected and still I want to add it
[17:11] <guest2342> should I just wait for an answer or ask my question again later?
[17:11] <XiaolinDraconis> ActionParsnip, im trying to make a data disc that would allow me to play my favorite games on windows and linux without installing anything
[17:11] <XiaolinDraconis> ActionParsnip, so i could bring it to friends and play on their pc's without intruding
[17:11] <pen_> holla
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> munzir: what is the output of: sudo dmidecode --type 1
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> munzir: use a pastebin to host
[17:12] <XiaolinDraconis> the windows side i can handle
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: not sure there
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> munzir: or: sudo dmidecode -s system-product-name
[17:13] <BluesKaj> chrislsp, open a terminal and type alsamixer , use the arrow keys to navigate and turn up the volume on the controls and unmute any ctrls with an M in the box with the M key., also if you have auto mute enable , disable it with up/down arrow key
[17:14] <munzir> ActionParsnip: HP Pavilion dv6 Notebook PC
[17:14] <MahaVishnu> XiaolinDraconis: try asking in ##linux
[17:16] <guest2342> #winehq
[17:18] <XiaolinDraconis> i decided to try and rephrase my google search a few more ways
[17:18] <chrislsp> BluesKaj everythning is unmuted and full but still nothing
[17:19] <v0lksman> hello all
[17:19] <sfilive> halo
[17:19] <juso> anyone know a method to put mp3s from ubuntu on iphone?
[17:19] <v0lksman> how can you tell from dpkg (cmd line only) what source a package comes from?
[17:20] <zer0her0> anyone using an ultra book yet?
[17:20] <v0lksman> juso: last I checked ios5 broke that ability for now
[17:20] <juso> v0lksman, damn!
[17:20] <v0lksman> juso: indeed!
[17:20] <chrislsp> juso use itunes only, best choice anything else is full of trouble
[17:21] <BluesKaj> chrislsp, aplay -l , pastebin the output pls
[17:21] <juso> chrislsp, yeah whatever linux needs to do to get in the front line along with windows/max in regards to software support needs to happen already!
[17:21] <juso> windows/mac*
[17:21] <XiaolinDraconis> its there already
[17:22] <juso> XiaolinDraconis, thats gotta be a joke.
[17:22] <XiaolinDraconis> linux isnt as far behind as everybody seems to think
[17:22] <AFD> is it possible to resume after an scp transfer stalls=
[17:22] <edbian> juso, actually, linux has more support for more hardware than any other OS
[17:23] <juso> edbian, i specifically said software support.
[17:23] <XiaolinDraconis> he said software
[17:23] <XiaolinDraconis> i think
[17:23] <XiaolinDraconis> yep
[17:23] <edbian> juso, I thought you meant software support of hardware.
[17:23] <edbian> juso, what do you mean exactly by software support?
[17:23] <zer0her0> apps, apps, apps!
[17:23] <zer0her0> (is my guess)
[17:23] <edbian> juso, you wanna be able to run ms word?
[17:24] <chrislsp> BluesKaj http://pastebin.com/iENJN92R
[17:24] <zer0her0> edbian, it would be nice to have official apps from major vendors yes
[17:24] <XiaolinDraconis> here's the diff juso with linux u have to open your eyes and read, windows you can get your hand held
[17:24] <MahaVishnu> juso: then you can pay for them. ill take my free open source stuff every day.
[17:24] <MahaVishnu> + my programs have less bugs / updated more often
[17:24] <edbian> zer0her0, what's the difference between an official app and an open source app?
[17:25] <XiaolinDraconis> open source you can fix urself
[17:25] <zer0her0> edbian, tech support, non-techy management more likely to sign off on it.
[17:25] <Guest76315> hi ho
[17:25] <Guest76315> "_
[17:25] <juso> itunes and netflix
[17:25] <Guest76315> :)
[17:25] <juso> Do I need to name 5 more?
[17:25] <edbian> zer0her0, ha, tech support is for the weak :P
[17:26] <MahaVishnu> juso: lol there are itunes replacements on linux that are better. yeah no music store if you like buying music from apple.
[17:26] <zer0her0> and THIS is why Linux will never gain ground
[17:26] <edbian> juso, I admit, netflix would be nice.   (really?  itunes?)
[17:26] <RandomPackage> cannot remove programs in 11.10, keep getting a programming error in aptdaemon....tried running 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' nothing changed... :/
[17:26] <edbian> ahhh
[17:26] <AFD> is there a way to resume a stalled scp transfer?
[17:26] <edbian> we're off-topic
[17:26] <XiaolinDraconis> just a tad
[17:26] <MahaVishnu> netflix is working on a linux version.........
[17:26] <MahaVishnu> nuff said
[17:26] <zer0her0> Adobe CS, Evernote are two biggies i need
[17:26] <edbian> MahaVishnu, not enough said, what are you talking about.  What distro?  How?
[17:26] <zer0her0> XiaolinDraconis, do you fix your car yourself?
[17:27] <XiaolinDraconis> technically it all works on linux... VMWARE
[17:27] <XiaolinDraconis> only when its cheaper
[17:27] <juso> MahaVishnu, no it is not
[17:27] <juso> techincally its NOT working on linux if im installed another OS on top of it, lmao
[17:28] <RandomPackage>  cannot remove programs in 11.10, keep getting a programming error in aptdaemon....tried running 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' nothing changed... :/
[17:28] <zer0her0> so anyone using ubuntu w/ any of the new ultra books?
[17:28] <ukwiz> how do I install a deb that I have downloaded?
[17:28] <XiaolinDraconis> click on it?
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> RandomPackage: can you give the output of:   sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:28] <ribot> in my syslog i have this line, does it mean cronjobs have run? Dec 30 18:24:01 localhost cron[111]: (root) RELOAD (crontabs/root)
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> ukwiz: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb; sudo apt-get -f install
[17:29] <edbian> ActionParsnip, why do you want him to fix broken packages?
[17:30] <ukwiz> ActionParsnip: Thx
[17:30] <juso> MahaVishnu, iOS 5 does not work with any linux applications. you seem to keep being wrong with everything.
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> edbian: if the deb has dependancies, they wil be dealt with from the repos
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> RandomPackage: use a pastebin to host the text
[17:31] <edbian> ActionParsnip, aaah
[17:31] <MahaVishnu> juso: good for me I don't have a shiny new iphone or whatever. nor do I give a crap
[17:31] <arri> hoi all! i'm trying to understand the severity of grub2-efi corrupting macbooks' firmware (bricking it) as described here http://goo.gl/swfqe . is the a total no-go? i'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04 - without hybrid mbr. thanks.
[17:32] <edbian> juso, I wish that apple would open IOS 5 to linux as well
[17:32] <MahaVishnu> juso: they use linux/unix code and then change it + sell it. how you like them APPLES
[17:33] <BluesKaj> !intelhda | chrislsp
[17:33] <juso> MahaVishnu, you are horribly wrong once again, please stop.
[17:33] <edbian> MahaVishnu, indeed, not true.  They used unix-like BSD code
[17:33] <MahaVishnu> I said unix
[17:34] <edbian> MahaVishnu, they didn't take unix code.  They took unix-like code (the bsd kernel) and they follow a unix like design
[17:34] <pangolin> doesn't really mater, its off topic
[17:34] <edbian> juso, do you have a support question?
[17:34] <opalepatrick> is it possible to write lost files to a secondary internal hard drive whilst using photorec?
[17:34] <MahaVishnu> edbian: what I said is still true. they took something freee and used it for their product
[17:34] <DrPenguin> opalepatrick:  yeah it is
[17:34] <edbian> MahaVishnu, we're off-topic
[17:34] <DrPenguin> thats whats your SUPPOSED to do
[17:35] <opalepatrick> DrPenguin, hmm well then the prob is I cant see the drive in the lsit
[17:35] <juso> MahaVishnu, wtf are you talking about? seriously.
[17:35] <DrPenguin> opalepatrick: did ya mount it?
[17:35] <edbian> juso, MahaVishnu please stop
[17:35] <MahaVishnu> im not talking about anything anymore
[17:36] <RandomPackage> ActionParsnip idk how to do that....
[17:36] <edbian> MahaVishnu, thanks :)
[17:36] <MahaVishnu> i did stop about 2 minutes ago
[17:36] <ribot> so i guess there is no way to use cron on ubuntu server, running the root user?
[17:36] <juso> MahaVishnu, good cause you clearly don't have the slighest idea - "someone sells software written in a language thats free, omg dont buy" lmao thats literally ALL software
[17:36] <juso> im done with this convo...
[17:36] <MahaVishnu> fuck this shit I come here to help people and I always end up in some stupid argument. congrats. no point in coming here
[17:37] <MahaVishnu> and fuck ubuntu too anymore
[17:37] <Tm_T> MahaVishnu: language, please
[17:37] <xangua> !language | MahaVishnu
[17:37] <DrPenguin> watch the language, and gtfo
[17:37] <edbian> juso, do you have a support question?
[17:37] <Tm_T> DrPenguin: ...
[17:37] <pangolin> DrPenguin: mind the acronyms too
[17:37] <xangua> DrPenguin: the same fot you ;)
[17:37] <DarkXPhenomenon> MahaVishnu: there never is any point to helping poeple!
[17:37] <DrPenguin> DarkXPhenomenon: oh cmon! there is!
[17:38] <opalepatrick> DrPenguin, good point - looks like something is using it... bizarre
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> !paste | RandomPackage
[17:41] <Gorilla_No_Baka> hello everyone... quick question Gnome 3 ...The gnome 3 theme selector can not read the contents of the /usr/share/themes  can anyone replicate this?
[17:42] <RandomPackage> i can do a screenshot, the command line nothing changes, just sits at my home dir
[17:43] <dr_willis> RandomPackage:  what?
[17:43] <tosh_> helo
[17:43] <Gorilla_No_Baka> hello everyone... quick question Gnome 3 ...The gnome 3 theme selector can not read the contents of the /usr/share/themes  can anyone replicate this?
[17:43] <arri> hi,i'm installing grub2-efi booted 12.04 (no hybrid MBR) on a macbook, but read about possibly bricking the macbook.. (http://goo.gl/swfqe) - is this a no-go? (for now)?
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> !12.04 | arri
[17:44] <DrPenguin> arri: that cant brick the macbook
[17:44] <RandomPackage> i'm getting this in the details of the error
[17:44] <RandomPackage> Traceback (most recent call last):
[17:44] <RandomPackage>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/aptdaemon/worker.py", line 968, in simulate
[17:44] <RandomPackage>     trans.unauthenticated = self._simulate_helper(trans)
[17:44] <RandomPackage>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/aptdaemon/worker.py", line 1092, in _simulate_helper
[17:44] <RandomPackage>     return depends, self._cache.required_download, \
[17:44] <FloodBot1> RandomPackage: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:44] <DrPenguin> worst comes to worst you just ned to reinstall OS X
[17:44] <edbian> Random832, There is an error in the python source code
[17:45] <arri> DrPengiun: sure? i'm confused by what i read...
[17:45] <Gorilla_No_Baka> guys...!????? Am i the only one to note the stupid theme selector does not even read the contents of the /usr/share/themes?
[17:45] <DrPenguin> arri: im 100% sure.. your not touching the macs firmware, just the hard drive
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> Gorilla_No_Baka: not used it
[17:46] <Gorilla_No_Baka> i got the prove right in front of my eyes.. go /usr/share/themes pick up one of the "approved themes" and change it's name.. automatically it' won't be read/displayed
[17:47] <Gorilla_No_Baka> ActionParsnip:  i am talking about the default theme chancer the one that comes shipped with ubunut
[17:48] <Gorilla_No_Baka> somebody is taking the mikey..
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> Gorilla_No_Baka: yes, i've never had to use it
[17:48] <glebihan> Gorilla_No_Baka, depending on what you do when you say you change the theme's name, it's normal that it would make it disappear
[17:48] <arri> DrPenguin: that's what i'd think.. until i read these posts of ppl having mobo's replaced..
[17:48] <arri> (looking for links)
[17:49] <Gorilla_No_Baka> the folder's name.. the very folder where the theme resides
[17:49] <DrPenguin> arri: that makes no sense
[17:49] <Gorilla_No_Baka>  not touching notiing from the theme
[17:49] <glebihan> Gorilla_No_Baka, well then it's normal, that's not enough to change a theme's name
[17:49] <Gorilla_No_Baka>  it is enough to change it and it can not be read anymore..  try it.. log as root and try to see
[17:50] <glebihan> Gorilla_No_Baka, no it is *not* enough
[17:51] <glebihan> Gorilla_No_Baka, by doing that you're introducing inconsistencies which prevent the theme from being listed/loaded
[17:51] <DrPenguin> arri: those people arent the smartest ones, you wouldnt need a mobo replacement for this.. your not touching the mobo
[17:51] <Chees_BHW> HI ALL. i got a shell script and its working fine when i run it. but when i close putty it stops running. how do i make it run all the time ?
[17:51] <Gorilla_No_Baka> lol
[17:51] <arri> DrPenguin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting - end of first section
[17:51] <Gorilla_No_Baka> are you serious?
[17:51] <arri> ...This feature is not recommended on Mac models because it can corrupt the firmware. You will need to reflash the firmware to repair it....
[17:51] <glebihan> Gorilla_No_Baka, yes I am
[17:51] <Chees_BHW> HI ALL. i got a shell script and its working fine when i run it. but when i close putty it stops running. how do i make it run all the time ?
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> Chees_BHW: you can use screen
[17:52] <no_gravity> Hello! I try to run my firefox traffic via an ssh proxy. So i run "ssh -D 5000 <my_server>" and set the firefox proxy setting to use 127.0.0.1 port 5000. But I only get empty pages when i put an url into firefox. Any ideas?
[17:52] <Chees_BHW> ActionParsnip what is this ?
[17:52] <arri> DrPenguin: and this bugreport: http://goo.gl/swfqe
[17:52] <DrPenguin> arri: what firmware is this talking about..?
[17:52] <DrPenguin> unless this is talking about rEFit
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> Chees_BHW: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1146143
[17:53] <arri> DrPenguin: and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10743955&posted=1#post10743955
[17:53] <DrPenguin> arri: stopppp throwing links at me
[17:53] <arri> ok .. ok;)
[17:54] <arri> what firmware.. well, i'm not sure - otherwise i'd probably not be asking.
[17:54] <DrPenguin> arri: I dont understand how firmware is being corrupted
[17:54] <DrPenguin> unless Ubuntu is touching the mobo
[17:55] <Gorilla_No_Baka> glebihan:  listen man.. channging the folder's name... NOT TOUCHING the content of the theme inside,,.. The lovely theme selector  can not find the thheme.. Ok.. I got Elegant-Arch-gtk3 and Ambiance..  i just swaped the names of the folders without touching the theme.. For some reason the stupid theme choser does not read it anymore.. (Not that  was reading it before either..) to me .. it looks just like the same storr
[17:55] <Chees_BHW> ActionParsnip thanks!
[17:55] <arri> i guess the firmware as Apple loads it on the macbook, such as MacBook Pro EFI Firmware Update 1.7
[17:56] <arri> http://support.apple.com/downloads/MacBook_Pro_EFI_Firmware_Update_1_7_
[17:56] <arri> (sorry for the link;)
[17:56] <glebihan> Gorilla_No_Baka, well it's the same as the one I just mentioned... Changing a theme's name takes more than just renaming the folder
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> Gorilla_No_Baka: what is the output of:  cat /etc/lsb-release    please
[17:56] <DrPenguin> arri: theo nly other thing I can think of is that Apple installs the firmware on the hdd.. but that makes no sense
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> Gorilla_No_Baka: I'll have a dig see what I can find#
[17:56] <DrPenguin> arri: those links are not clear, and i would argue the point that firmware i sbeing corrupted
[17:57] <arri> DrPenguin: this is not loaded on the hd, this is responsible for initial hardware initialization, basic device drivers etc..
[17:57] <DrPenguin> arri: I know that
[17:58] <arri> that's what makes it scary.. it's not the EFI bootoader, rather the EFI itsself
[17:59] <Gorilla_No_Baka> I am making a script for a friend of mine (he's got a macbook pro 8,1) well this script downloads .... glebihan  my firend you are not reading whaat i am actually telling you  I DO NOT intend to change theme;s name.. that was an experiment to prove they messed arround with the theme selector.. bsically that would only read their themes.. it does not matter you bring in a new gtk theme.. nope.. you're screwed .. if you 
[17:59] <DrPenguin> arri: honestl,y I think its just some people who have no idea what they are doing breaking their systems
[17:59] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :)
[17:59] <Deltatash> I wonder if anyone can help me with a problem I have. I am trying to burn some files to disc using Brasero and when I click burn it instantly ejects my disc and says "Error while burning, Some files have invalid names" I then have an option to save the log. I save the log and read it it mentiones invalid names but does not exactly say what are the invalid names it does nolt make sense to me :s
[17:59] <Gorilla_No_Baka> gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface gtk-theme 'Elegant-Arch-gtk3'
[17:59] <Gorilla_No_Baka> # Icon-Theme:
[17:59] <Gorilla_No_Baka> gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface icon-theme 'HumanME-green'
[17:59] <Gorilla_No_Baka> #Window decorator:
[17:59] <Gorilla_No_Baka> gconftool-2 --set --type string /apps/metacity/general/theme 'Elegant-Arch-gtk3'
[17:59] <FloodBot1> Gorilla_No_Baka: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:59] <Deltatash> anyone with a little more experience able to help me please
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> Gorilla_No_Baka: can you give the output of:  cat /etc/lsb-release   please
[18:00] <DrPenguin> Deltatash: do any of the file names contain weird characters or are super duper long?
[18:00] <arri> DrPenguin: i've been researching all day.. but not so sure about that.. but then, if you are..
[18:00] <Gorilla_No_Baka> so.. what i am trying to say.. is my firend would love to actually be able to select his gtk3 themes as normal.. he is not happy with me  creating script files for him just to be able to change a theme
[18:00] <Gorilla_No_Baka> ActionParsnip:  stand by 1 se please
[18:00] <glebihan> Gorilla_No_Baka, I read you very well, I was just telling you that your tests were not relevant
[18:00] <Deltatash> I dunno I will check now DrPenguin
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> Gorilla_No_Baka: no worries
[18:01] <Decepticon> hi!
[18:01] <Decepticon> people I need to help me
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: ask away
[18:01] <Decepticon> I want to install in wine an unity virtual but in wine
[18:01] <Gorilla_No_Baka> ActionParsnip:
[18:01] <arri> DrPenguin: one report mentions the 'bricked' harddrive worked fine after the mobo-replacment.. (firmware repair?)
[18:01] <Gorilla_No_Baka> root@gorilla-MacBookPro:~# cat /etc/lsb-release
[18:01] <Gorilla_No_Baka> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[18:01] <Gorilla_No_Baka> DISTRIB_RELEASE=11.10
[18:01] <Gorilla_No_Baka> DISTRIB_CODENAME=oneiric
[18:01] <Gorilla_No_Baka> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 11.10"
[18:01] <FloodBot1> Gorilla_No_Baka: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:01] <Resistance> wait what?
[18:01] <oem_> Decepticon: explain more your problem
[18:01] <Resistance> !pastebin | Gorilla_No_Baka
[18:01] <Deltatash> theres one or 2 longish filenames DrPenguin but its weird becuase these files were extracted from an .ISO i am trying to burn them to disc after extracting but its a no go I cant even re add them to another .ISO i get same error
[18:01] <Decepticon> because I need to rosetta stone install lenguage but the software to me ask for the cd-rom
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: wine is available in the repos
[18:02] <DrPenguin> arri: if the board was replaced, then it would have whatever firmware is on it (unless it was reflashed)
[18:02] <DrPenguin> Deltatash: how long is long?
[18:02] <arri> DrPenguin: supposedly, when bricked it doesn't even pass 'POST' (or whatever?)
[18:02] <Decepticon> ActionParsnip:  but I need to unity virtual in wine of cd-rom o dvd-rom
[18:02] <Decepticon> because i have a notebook
[18:02] <Resistance> Decepticon:  just install wine from the repos, you don't need a "virtual unity", just install wine, and it should work (you will also need the Rosetta Stone CDs/DVDs anyways)
[18:02] <Decepticon> I dont have cd.-rom
[18:02] <DrPenguin> arri: well if the firmware cant do its job for stage1 booting, then yeah
[18:03] <Resistance> Decepticon:  then your question is "How do I mount DVD/CD images so I can install software from them"?
[18:03] <Decepticon> Resistance: but is for the lenaguege
[18:03] <Decepticon> lenguage
[18:03] <Resistance> Decepticon:  the alternative is you go out, and buy a $20 USB CD/DVD reader
[18:03] <Deltatash> its 31 characters long DrPenguin and like 3 spaces
[18:03] <Decepticon> Resistance: buuuuuuuuu! no because is for me
[18:03] <Resistance> Decepticon:  for the record, I know what Rosetta Stone is, and I have it installed in both Windows and Linux on this machine
[18:03] <Decepticon> dem
[18:03] <Resistance> Decepticon:  i take it english isnt your first language?
[18:04] <arri> DrPenguin: so looking for advice, maybe leave this for now - as i'm not exactly up to par with firmware flashing etc.. ?
[18:04]  * Resistance sees some typing issues that make that seem apparent...
[18:04] <Decepticon> english and german
[18:04] <Decepticon> in wine the rosetta stone run fine
[18:04] <Resistance> Decepticon:  would it be easier to talk in german to get help?  there's a german support channel:
[18:04] <Resistance> !de | Decepticon
[18:04] <Decepticon> very fine but the problem is when the software tell me for the cdrom with lenguage
[18:04] <Resistance> Decepticon:  we're finding it difficult to understand what you're needing
[18:05] <Resistance> Decepticon:  you'd have to install the Linux language pack for the Language
[18:05] <Deltatash> any idea DrPenguin?
[18:05] <Resistance> and/or the Wine language packs
[18:05] <arri> DrPenguin: things is, if this is a REAL problem, i'd expected to see some huge red warning somewhere..
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: once you install the app in wine, it will run under unity just fine..
[18:05] <Resistance> ActionParsnip:  he's having issues with the program detecting the languages
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> i see
[18:06] <Resistance> ActionParsnip:  in windows, it'll auto-install the required language pack(s) from Windows
[18:06] <DrPenguin> arri: then dont use 11.04+? use 10.04
[18:06] <Resistance> ActionParsnip:  in Linux, you have to hack around that (PITA to do, which is why I also keep Windows VMs handy)
[18:07] <arri> DrPenguin: yeah, well - i was too adventerous perhaps. i guess i'll leave this for now. thanks!
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> Resistance: not used it tbh, sounds annoying
[18:08] <Resistance> ActionParsnip:  its profoundly annoying (although its resulted in my MSDN license getting extremely high usage for the OS ISOs from Windows :P)
[18:13] <Decepticon> I canot add cdrom in wine
[18:13] <Decepticon> help me please
[18:13] <Decepticon> please! I need to add cd-rom in wine
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: playonlinux makes life a little easier
[18:14] <Decepticon> play in lunx=??
[18:15] <Decepticon> ActionParsnip:  but is possible add cd-rom unity virtual in wine =??
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> true
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> !info playonlinux
[18:17] <Deltatash> can anyone help me I am trying to burn some files to disc using Brasero in Ubuntu 10.4 LTS and it instantly fails when i click burn and says  Some files have invalid names" I then have an option to save the log. I save the log and read it it mentiones invalid names but does not exactly say what are the invalid names it does nolt make sense to me :s here is my Brasero burn log that failed http://pastebin.com/06hJfmTV
[18:18] <Deltatash> any help would be apreciated guys
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Deltatash: tried another burning app?
[18:18] <Deltatash> no
[18:19] <Deltatash> what app would you reccomend ActionParsnip ?
[18:19] <Decepticon> somebody that do install rosetta stone in ubuntu
[18:19] <Decepticon> pleaseee
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> Deltatash: xfburn is pretty sweet imho
[18:19] <Deltatash> ok I will try that, thanks
[18:20] <beachbuddah> hello room
[18:21] <Decepticon> beachbuddah: hey! hi
[18:21] <beachbuddah> can anyone tell me why the 32 bit version of 11.10 is 'recommended' over the 64 bit?
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> beachbuddah: it will work on more CPUs
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> beachbuddah: as 32bit OS will run on 64bit CPU
[18:22] <beachbuddah> but if I have a 64 bit chip...?
[18:22] <xangua> beachbuddah: use what you want then
[18:22] <beachbuddah> fair enuf
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> beachbuddah: then you can use 64bit if you want
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> beachbuddah: remember the target audience of ubuntu ;)
[18:22] <Decepticon> somebody that do of rosetta stone in ubuntu =??
[18:23] <beachbuddah> I really appreciate the fact that all you different folks come in here and make yourselves available to help people like me
[18:23] <Deltatash> ok ActionParsnip I have xfburn installed now gonna try and burn with it :D
[18:23] <beachbuddah> thanks alot]
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> beachbuddah: always welcome :D
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> beachbuddah: thanks for the gratitude too :D:D
[18:23] <Humbedooh> PactionArsenip!
[18:23] <OerHeks> next LTS 12.04 says 64 bit is recommended :-)
[18:24] <beachbuddah> you're certainly welcome - have a great New Year's all - I'm off to d/l land
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> OerHeks: its not bad at all !wfm ;)
[18:24] <th^2> hello all. anyone solved this problem? it appears when im tryig to launch net stream. Blocked: call to setenv("_PX_CONFIG_ORDER", "", 1)
[18:24] <th^2> libva: libva version 0.32.0
[18:24] <th^2> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0".
[18:24] <th^2> libva: va_getDriverName() returns 0
[18:24] <th^2> Segmentation fault
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> th^2: net steam using what app?
[18:25] <th^2> ActionParsnip, aaah. VLC
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> th^2: tried a different app?
[18:25] <th^2> ActionParsnip, not really
[18:27] <Gizmo> hi all
[18:27] <th^2> okay it works fine with the mplayer
[18:27] <th^2> ActionParsnip
[18:28] <thechris> Does anyone have an idea how to get an ASUS USB-N53 wifi adaptor to scan for AP's?
[18:28] <th^2> thechris, iwlist?
[18:28] <thechris> th^2: I've tried iwlist wlan0 scanning, but "no results found"
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> th^2: ok we have isolated the issue to just vlc :)
[18:29] <thechris> there are dozens of AP's in the area
[18:29] <th^2> ActionParsnip, yes
[18:29] <th^2> thechris, is it working otherways?
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> th^2: if you use vlc as a new user,is it the same?
[18:29] <thechris> th^2: unknown.  I can't find my AP
[18:29] <wernhamhogg> Hi everyone.. got an error message when starting up my ubuntu-server: kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) .... been googling some and it seems most ppl get this after they've done some kind of update... However my server just turned itself off and now i get this when im starting it. any ideas on whats wrong?
[18:29] <Deltatash> hey ActionParsnip xfburn worked for me :D thanks for that :D dunno what it was that Brasero didnt like but atleast xfburn works :D
[18:29] <th^2> ActionParsnip, hmm let me try
[18:31] <iiname> hello
[18:31] <iiname> i have a problem with the display ( menu bar is missing in 12.04, unity --reset does not help
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> iiname: ask in #ubuntu+1
[18:32] <iiname> ActionParsnip thanks
[18:32] <th^2> ActionParsnip, well... Blocked: call to unsetenv("DBUS_ACTIVATION_BUS_TYPE")
[18:32] <th^2> [0xecaa10] inhibit interface error: Failed to connect to the D-Bus session daemon: //bin/dbus-launch terminated abnormally with the following error: No protocol specified
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> iiname: you are using pre-release so you will get issues
[18:32] <th^2> Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed.
[18:32] <xangua> iiname: or use 11.10
[18:32] <th^2> but this is not the same error
[18:32] <mellpatr> its possible to use sudo with a domain user?
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> th^2: are you on the same PC or is this via SSH?
[18:32] <th^2> and its not priority because theres only one account used to watch any videos
[18:33] <mellpatr> like as runas command at windows?
[18:33] <th^2> ActionParsnip, same PC. just added a new user. might be because of privilaged though
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> th^2: try vlc with sudo, just to test
[18:33] <Wanguard> is there any way to tether a feature phone(Java)?
[18:33] <th^2> ActionParsnip, to run internet app with root access?
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> th^2: sure, its only to test, see if its priveledges causing the issue
[18:35] <th^2> ActionParsnip, VLC is not supposed to be run as root. Sorry.
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> th^2: is that the message?
[18:35] <th^2> ActionParsnip, yes
[18:35] <edbian> ha
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> i see
[18:36] <th^2> okay used vlc-wrapper
[18:36] <th^2> libva: libva version 0.32.0
[18:36] <th^2> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0".
[18:36] <th^2> libva: va_getDriverName() returns 0
[18:36] <iiname> ActionParsnip  I logged into #ubuntu+1, see the list of users, but no activity. Is there a different authentication requirement for that room?
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> iiname: no its just like here but for precise (12.04) until release day
[18:37] <edbian> ActionParsnip, what is the codename for 12.04 ?
[18:37] <edbian> iiname, It's just quieter
[18:37] <xangua> iiname: why do you want to use pangolin on first place¿
[18:38] <th^2> ActionParsnip, any ideas?
[18:39] <iiname> xangua I am trying 12.04 exploratively
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> th^2: not sure, you could try the vlc ppa to get vlc 1.2
[18:39] <iiname> ebdian thanks
[18:39] <LivTyler> how do I connect to a VPN connection created with NetworkManager?
[18:40] <iiname> ebdian the code name for 12.04 is precise pangolin
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> LivTyler: once the connection is made, just connect as you would and routing will happen for you
[18:40] <edbian> iiname, thanks
[18:40] <bigtom21485> anyone know how to get the latest version of adobe reader to work on a 64-bit computer?
[18:40] <bigtom21485> how do i install with my deb file i downloaded...
[18:40] <LivTyler> ActionParsnip: it's created but there's no button "Connect"
[18:40] <edbian> bigtom21485, sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[18:41] <edbian> bigtom21485, and then sudo apt-get -f install
[18:41] <th^2> noob: howto remove a user?
[18:42] <lytithwyn> th^2: sudo userdel <username>
[18:42] <compitz> hi guys, can someone help me to chroot update-grub on a mounted but not running filesystem?
[18:42] <edbian> compitz, chroot /path/to/mounted/root/    then run sudo update-grub
[18:42] <th^2> lytithwyn, aah thats it. danke
[18:42] <lytithwyn> Sure.
[18:42] <edbian> compitz, (you might want grub-install)
[18:43] <compitz> edbian why install?
[18:43] <edbian> compitz, well, is grub installed?
[18:43] <edbian> compitz, on this hdd ?
[18:43] <LivTyler> ActionParsnip: it's created but there's no button "Connect"
[18:43] <bigtom21485> how do i force the depackaging? my deb is 32 bit, my system is 64 bit
[18:44] <edbian> bigtom21485, You have to get a 64 bit .deb
[18:44] <LivTyler> ActionParsnip: I'm trying to set up a PPTP connection
[18:44] <compitz> edbian do you remeber how, was it you?, who told me to use the open source invidia driver on 10.4? well anyway, yes, my whole system is installed, i just cant run it cause of the black screen
[18:45] <edbian> compitz, that has likely nothing to do with grub :)
[18:45] <edbian> compitz, when you boot, press shift early to get the grub menu
[18:45] <compitz> i know, edbian, hold on a sec
[18:45] <edbian> compitz, if a menu comes up (with ubuntu) grub is fine
[18:45] <edbian> compitz, I can fix the black screen probably too
[18:46] <compitz> edbian, i tried pressing vereything, wait i tell you what i did
[18:46] <edbian> compitz, ok
[18:46] <edbian> compitz, this is a big issue.  Follow this wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/BlankScreen
[18:47] <edbian> compitz, come back here if you get stuck with something
[18:47] <compitz> edbian, i googled it and the problem is probably this: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/
[18:48] <LivTyler> can someone help with a PPTP connection? I've created a VPN connection via Network Manager but how DO I connect?
[18:48] <edbian> compitz, yes, this is covered in the guide I gave
[18:48] <compitz> edbian, no what i did was editing the grub to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset" GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" like it said, but at the bottom of the page it says i had to run update-grub
[18:49] <edbian> compitz, that's not true.  If you add nomodeset in grub then it is only temporary.  Running update-grub is to permenantly add nomodeset.  You only need to do this if nomodeset worked
[18:49] <lytithwyn> Thanks for the wiki link, compitz.  I get a blank screen every once in a while and I just thought my laptop was being stupid.  I'll have to try some of that stuff!
[18:49] <bigtom21485> edbian: why is my browser telling me i don't have the most updated version?
[18:49] <edbian> lytithwyn, the wiki I posted
[18:50] <guest_> I am wondering if the guys at The Linux documentation project have an advanced perl guide equivalent to their advanced bash guide abs? If so a link to it would be great I really want to learn the hardest perl stuff know the basics...
[18:50] <edbian> bigtom21485, the most updated version of what?
[18:50] <lytithwyn> Ah, sorry.  Thanks edbian.
[18:50] <edbian> lytithwyn, that's fine
[18:50] <bigtom21485> edbian: why would www.va.gov not like google chrome on ubuntu x64?
[18:50] <edbian> bigtom21485, lemme test of 32 bit
[18:50] <compitz> lytithwyn, well for general ubuntuuser, i might tell you never to change a running system...
[18:51] <bigtom21485> edbian: go here (https://www.1010ez.med.va.gov/sec/vha/1010ez/), then click "apply" and tell me if your pdf opens properly
[18:51] <edbian> bigtom21485, testing...
[18:51] <LivTyler> can someone help with a PPTP connection? I've created a VPN connection via Network Manager but how DO I connect?
[18:51] <lytithwyn> Compitz: No big.  If I hose it up, I can reload.  It's not a mission critical pc anyway.
[18:51] <compitz> edbian, do you think its enough that i did?
[18:52] <oCean> guest_: maybe try the #perl channel
[18:52] <edbian> compitz, what?
[18:52] <edbian> bigtom21485, works fine for me on 32bit firefox
[18:52] <bigtom21485> edbian: this the message i get.  i get a pdf that just says this: "To view the full contents of this document, you need a later version of the PDF viewer. You can upgrade
[18:52] <bigtom21485> to the latest version of Adobe Reader from www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html
[18:52] <bigtom21485> For further support, go to www.adobe.com/support/products/acrreader.html"
[18:52] <FloodBot1> bigtom21485: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:53] <edbian> bigtom21485, oh, I saw that too :P
[18:53] <bigtom21485> edbian: howd you get around that?
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> !vpn | LivTyler
[18:53] <edbian> bigtom21485, I didn't
[18:53] <compitz> edbian editing diting the grub to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset" GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" from diting the grub to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splasht" GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""
[18:53] <edbian> bigtom21485, I'm not sure how to fix it either :(
[18:54] <qipiqipi> tung
[18:54] <compitz> edbian editing diting the grub to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset" GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" from GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splasht" GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""
[18:54] <bigtom21485> edbian: i have a 32 bit ubuntu laptop.  no worries B-)
[18:54] <edbian> compitz, That is ripe with trpos.  But, did the black screen go away after you did that?
[18:54] <compitz> trpos?
[18:54] <compitz> edbian trpos?
[18:54] <edbian> typos*
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> ahahha
[18:54] <edbian> quiet you!
[18:55] <compitz> edbian, i have typos in my grub?
[18:55] <edbian> compitz, ugh, follow the wiki link I gave you.
[18:56] <compitz> edbian, i dont really undertstand what it says for im aforeigner to English and dont know what for example plymouth is
[18:56] <slipp3d> so what is the difference between .... (version current)   and  (port-release updates)( version current-updates)   when I am looking at the additional drivers window?
[18:56] <LivTyler> ActionParsnip: "This features is available under the networks connections tab.". Ok, I've created that but HOW do I connect?
[18:57] <hiltonmagk> Can anyone help me with a kernel panic issue?
[18:57] <compitz> edbian, your link says nothing about "nomodeset"
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> LivTyler: according to http://geekyprojects.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-vpn-connection/   you just need to reboot
[18:59] <mebigfatguy_> hiltonmagk, why speculate? just ask the question
[18:59] <hiltonmagk> fair enough
[18:59] <thomas> how to connect wireless router
[18:59] <hiltonmagk> I'm getting a kernel panic: not syncing fatal machine check
[19:00] <LaFlakitaBnAsika> #ubuntu-es
[19:00] <hiltonmagk> sometimes it boots fine
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> hiltonmagk: I'd test RAM if it's intermittent
[19:00] <mensvaga> If I have multiple sound cards and I'm not running gnome, what do I use to choose the sound device?
[19:00] <hiltonmagk> I did take this hardrive from another computer and put it into a new one
[19:00] <benbloom> I need help getting a usb 2.0 pci card working. anyone got the time/interest?
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> thomas: you get a wireless adapter, install it and configure it and connect to the router
[19:01] <LivTyler> ActionParsnip: ok, I've tried "nmcli con up id myvpnconnection" and it fails with "Unknown reason error"
[19:02] <hiltonmagk> would that cause a problem?
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> mensvaga: its set in sound settings
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> hiltonmagk: check the drive is connected properly, I'd also test ram
[19:03] <hiltonmagk> I also get a bunch of MCE Hardware errors upon boot every time
[19:04] <mensvaga> ActionParsnip: alsamixergui
[19:05] <hiltonmagk> I get an error "too small lower memory"
[19:07] <hiltonmagk> and the drive is connected
[19:07] <com642> When trying to launch the ubuntu installation program in 11.10 x86_64, I get the error "(gksudo:4884): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap"," four times
[19:08] <roberto> !list
[19:08] <hiltonmagk> I couldn't get ubuntu install on this machine so I took it's hardrive to another and installed it there and then brought it back to the orginal machine.  That's when these errors started
[19:08] <roberto> ciao
[19:09] <hiltonmagk> I couldn't get ubuntu install on this machine so I took it's hardrive to another and installed it there and then brought it back to the orginal machine.  That's when these errors started
[19:12] <ashwin> How to get run dialog in ubuntu 11.10 ?
[19:13] <hiltonmagk> how do you install ubuntu when you need propriorty video drivers?
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> com642: sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-pixbuf     will get rid of those warnings
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> ashwin: Alt+f2
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> hiltonmagk: install the OS, then install the driver
[19:14] <hiltonmagk> OS won't install
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> hiltonmagk: do you get a black screen when you install?
[19:14] <ashwin> ActionParsnip, that is not as simple and pretty as it used to be.
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> ashwin: you can install gnome-run and assign Alt+f2 in ccsm to run it
[19:15] <hiltonmagk> ActionParsnip: It starts to install the base system and when it gets about 90% done it goes to a black screen and then reboots
[19:15] <com642> ActionParsnip, E: Unable to locate package
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> hiltonmagk: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[19:15] <mcc> Looking in apt-cache search I find a package named libgl1-mesa-dev and a package named libglw1-mesa-dev. The description lines in apt-cache search are the same. What is the difference between the two?
[19:16] <ashwin> ActionParsnip, thanks. That is what i was looking for.
[19:16] <hiltonmagk> no but I tried 3 different versions of Ubuntu and they all did the same thing
[19:16] <hiltonmagk> used the same disk to install on another computer
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> ashwin: gmrun   sorry
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> hiltonmagk: if you don't MD5 test you do not know if the image is complete or consistent
[19:17] <ashwin> oh
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> ashwin: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/omg-5-five-ways-to-add-altf2-fun-to-unity/
[19:17] <bodybuild> ciaoo
[19:17] <bodybuild> !list
[19:18] <ashwin> Thanks ActionParsnip
[19:18] <hiltonmagk> ActionParship:  I understand that but it did work on another machine so it should be good shouldn't it?  And what's the liklihood that it would be wrong 3 times on 3 different versions
[19:19] <helloaa> hi, a program i installed made a default change that i do not like. i downloaded the source and found that i can make this change by editing the main.cpp file, however i do not want to install it manually as i prefer using ppa and apt-get. is there a way to find a file similar to this main.cpp?
[19:19] <ssta> com642: com642 sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-pixbuf
[19:19] <ssta> grr, tab complete...
[19:20] <vouth> Hi. This is probably kind of a stupid question but how can I drop back to the bash prompt right after beginning a command (not waiting for it to complete)?
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> hiltonmagk: what video chip do you use?
[19:21] <ichbinder> has anybody experience with onlinetvrecorder in ubuntu?
[19:21] <Stormrider> vouth...are you wanting to kill the command and get the prompt back?
[19:22] <Multbrelch> Hello world?
[19:22] <jrib> When I attempt to use my system after the screen has been blanked (e.g. by running « xset s activate ») by pressing spacebar for example, the screen does not unblank.  But if I hold the "increase brightness" key I can bring the screen up again to maximum brightness.  This used to work fine, pre-oneiric.  I am on a macbook 4,1.  How can I allow my screen to unblank properly by pressing any button or using
[19:22] <jrib> the touchpad?
[19:22] <jrib> Multbrelch: hello
[19:22] <VCoolio> vouth: ctrl+c to abort, ctrl+z to pause
[19:23] <VCoolio> vouth: or run the command with an ampersand, like: command &
[19:23] <oCean> vouth: you can use  command &  and give enter to get your prompt back (the command will run in the background) If you have started a command in the foreground, you can <ctrl><z> to send a SIGSTOP to the process, this will result in a jobnumber with "stopped" You can continue that jobnumber using  fg %<jobid>
[19:23] <X0Rc0re> 	hello can someone tell me what this command does? ln -s / root
[19:23] <vouth> Stormrider: No, just get the command running. I'm trying to write a script to execute a number of startup items on login, and only the first one is being executed.
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> X0Rc0re: what is 'root'?
[19:24] <vouth> VCoolio, oCean: I think the command & is what I was talking about. Thanks.
[19:24] <pumafyre> hey all
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> X0Rc0re: if your pwd is $HOME then you will make a link to '/' called 'root'
[19:24] <vouth> Is anyone else seeing enormous amounts of joins/quits?
[19:24] <jrib> vouth: pastebin your script
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> vouth: I have them on ignore
[19:25] <X0Rc0re> is there any command to undo  ln -s / root
[19:25] <X0Rc0re> ?
[19:25] <pumafyre> the light on my hard drive won't stop flashing, it sounds like it's reading/writing but it's going on and on and on.  Is there a way to check and see what's happening with it?
[19:25] <Stormrider> Yes tons of joins and quits and splits.  I need to remember how to ignore them.  heh
[19:25] <jrib> pumafyre: iotop
[19:25] <oCean> vouth: it's a netsplit, don't worry
[19:25] <pumafyre> hey slackerthank you jrib
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> X0Rc0re: delete the link file, do NOT use -rf
[19:25] <vouth> jrib: http://pastebin.com/emNgn5tx
[19:25] <pippo> ciao
[19:25] <X0Rc0re> ActionParsnip: what if i put it in my home dir?
[19:25] <vouth> ActionParsnip, oCean: weird.
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> X0Rc0re: then its just a file, delete it
[19:26] <vouth> Never heard of that before
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> vouth: most clients can be told to ignore join/part stuff
[19:26] <X0Rc0re> where would the file be located?
[19:26] <X0Rc0re> in file manager?
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> X0Rc0re: wherever you ran the command
[19:26] <Raldaf> I`ve a problem with a vodafone dongle on my ubuntu 10.10., the system doenst recognize the Controlport. Anyone can help me? :)
[19:26] <oCean> !netsplit
[19:26] <X0Rc0re> what would it be called?
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> X0Rc0re: the file you made is called 'root'
[19:27] <blargg> How do I get firefox-globalmenu for Firefox 9 running on 10.04 Lucid? I'm using ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable. I found a page that seems to list a newer version of firefox-globalmenu, but it's from the Firefox Aurora ppa, which I believe would install Firefox 10 or 11 if I added it to sources.
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> !away > Jguy\away
[19:27] <hiltonmagk> ActionParship: I think it's an ATI
[19:27] <AFD> I´m transferring my home folder to a new machine and can´t find the empathy files (settings and chat logs) anyone know where they are?
[19:27] <X0Rc0re> ActionParsnip: it doesnt show the file root
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> hiltonmagk: try the boot option: nomodeset
[19:27] <X0Rc0re> in the directory
[19:27] <mensvaga> If I have a USB audio card, how do I configure pulseaudio to use it?
[19:27] <mensvaga> err, USB sound card
[19:27] <Guest20427> vouth: you should start those jobs in the background (append & to the line)
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> X0Rc0re: then you didn't run it there
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> exit
[19:28] <vouth> Guest20427: Thanks!
[19:29] <pumafyre> found it
[19:29] <ashwin> Hi
[19:29] <Crasher> hellow
[19:29] <gridbag> I am so gay.
[19:29] <com642> Applications are failing to launch in 11.10 x86_64 liveusb.
[19:29] <Chr|s> getting an error stating file '/home/user/.gvfs': Transport endpoint is not connected. Any ideas on why this is happening? happens each time I click on my home folder
[19:30] <Crasher> did anyone tryed to install the backtrack menu in ubuntu?
[19:30] <Weems> I cannot install python-profiler: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[19:30] <Weems>  python2.7 : Conflicts: python-profiler (<= 2.7.1-2)
[19:31] <Seven_Six_Two> I just installed 11.10 x64 on an hp g60 laptop with a new kingston 64gb ssd. The laptop had a 250gb hd with 11.10 with no problems. I did a net install from usb key, install went fine (did desktop packages) and installed boot loader to mbr. Now after post I just get a blinking cursor. Any ideas what might have gone wrong?
[19:31] <gridbag> I HATE when I drag a window and my mouse goes up top, and the thing highlights the entire monitor as if I want to expand the app to ALL. Who decides this is smart?
[19:32] <gridbag> Ubuntu is the worst UI ever.
[19:32] <pippo>  /EXEC rm -vf /tmp/budus_XDCC__home_pippo_2052.quer
[19:32] <jrib> gridbag: ubuntu is not a UI :)
[19:32] <com642> gridbag, hold alt key while dragging on the main part of the window.
[19:32] <Seven_Six_Two> gridbag, I like it. I also like the half-screen on right and left
[19:32] <gridbag> "oh, but wait. this will be awesome on tablets!"
[19:32] <blargg> gridbag, are you being forced to use Ubuntu?
[19:32] <Seven_Six_Two> gridbag, then don't use unity
[19:32] <com642> gridbag, Win7 is the same way...
[19:33] <gridbag> failure is bad. failure is not an excuse for excuses.
[19:33] <nothingspecial> gridbag: disable the grid plugin in ccsm
[19:33] <hiltonmagk> ActionParship: I guess I was wrong it's a XFX HD-435X-ZNH2 Radeon
[19:34] <com642> 11.10 x86_64 liveusb: when I select install ubuntu from the boot menu, I get a dialogue box stating that "The installer encountered an unrecoverable error. A desktop session will now be run so that you may investigate the problem or try installing again."
[19:34] <hiltonmagk> ActionParship: Should I still try that install option?
[19:34] <gridbag> "grid plugin in ccsm" - nice.
[19:34] <myk_robinson> need some help with terminal. I need to run a command in a folder to search all subfolders and copy *.doc and so on to a designated folder outside of the parent. Help?
[19:35] <blargg> myk_robinson, man find
[19:35] <com642> myk_robinson, cp -R *.doc
[19:35] <com642> myk_robinson, grep -R *.doc
[19:35] <gridbag> The more I dive into Ubuntu/Linux, the more I appreciate Steve Jobs.
[19:35] <Jguy\away> Whoops, sorry guys, I checked the box 'set away on all networks', my apologies. :)
[19:35] <glebihan> myk_robinson, find ./ -name "*.doc" -exec mv {} /path/to/destination/folder \;
[19:35] <jakob1> How do i launch the installer from CLI on the live-cd?
[19:36] <pippo> ciao
[19:36] <X0Rc0re> how would i remove the htaccess folder with a command in unix?
[19:36] <gridbag> And another thing: Why does my Ubuntu desktop look 50% more retarded than it did 5 years ago?
[19:37] <glebihan> gridbag, once again, no one is forcing you to use unity if you don't like it
[19:37] <gridbag> I'm all for open source, community, and free software, and all that. But really, wtf?
[19:37] <mebigfatguy_> X0Rc0re, rm -rf htaccess
[19:37] <com642> gridbag, use another distro then
[19:37] <mebigfatguy_> assuming it's in a place that you have write access to
[19:37] <OerHeks> gridbag, stop the ranting please
[19:37] <mebigfatguy_> otherwise you would need to prepend sudo
[19:37] <X0Rc0re> will it mess up the website?
[19:37] <glebihan> gridbag, also, this is support channel, so you can join #ubuntu-rant
[19:37] <blargg> gridbag, this channel is for coming up with concrete solutions to immediate problems
[19:37] <com642> !offtopic gridbag
[19:38] <jrib> gridbag: keep in mind this channel is where users help other users with ubuntu problems.  It's not really the right forum for complaining about a specific design choice
[19:38] <mebigfatguy_> X0Rc0re, likely
[19:38] <lake> How can I install a specific version of a library from apt? For instance I want to install libqt4-dev version 4.6.3.
[19:38] <gridbag> Anyone have questions? I'm here to help.
[19:38] <jrib> When I attempt to use my system after the screen has been blanked (e.g. by running « xset s activate ») by pressing spacebar for example, the screen does not unblank.  But if I hold the "increase brightness" key I can bring the screen up again to maximum brightness.  This used to work fine, pre-oneiric.  I am on a macbook 4,1.  How can I allow my screen to unblank properly by pressing any button or using
[19:38] <jrib> the touchpad?
[19:38] <jakob1> gridbag: me :)
[19:38] <jakob1> How do i launch the installer from CLI on the live-cd?
[19:38] <revsoldest> hi every one
[19:39] <pippo> ciiao
[19:40] <blargg> I switched to Firefox 9 but can't find the latest firefox-globalmenu (running 10.04 Lucid).
[19:40] <Seven_Six_Two> jakob1, I'll let you know in a minute if no one answers. I'm booting livecd now
[19:40] <jakob1> Seven_Six_Two: Awesome thanks
[19:42] <myk_robinson> glebihan: your command is getting me close, but I get a lot of errors, it shows the filenames then says no such file or directory. What am I doing wrong?
[19:42] <helo1> hey guys, I'm having an issue with my wireless. The problem is sporadic. Sometimes it won't happen for a few days, other it happens every few hours. I have found a reboot to be the only fix so far. It connects and works fine for an arbitrary amount of time and then randomly disconnects. It then refuses to connect again, asking for credentials over and over. This is the error from syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/788228/
[19:42] <myk_robinson> glebihan: this is what I put:   mykrob@Ideapad-Z570:~/Desktop/Recovered$ find -name "*.doc" -exec mv{} /home/mykrob/Desktop/Moved \;
[19:42] <gridbag> Linux is for people who can' afford Apple.
[19:42] <glebihan> myk_robinson, you're missing a space between mv and {}
[19:43] <jakob1> gridbag: Linux is for people who can understand it.
[19:43] <myk_robinson> awesome, thank you very much!
[19:43] <Seven_Six_Two> gridbag, trolling is not a good hobby
[19:43] <glebihan> myk_robinson, you're welcome
[19:43] <jrib> gridbag: stay on the topic of ubuntu support.  Consider this your last and final warning.
[19:45] <gridbag> Who is in charge of the "New Printer" app? The thing wedges, and I'd like to fix that by making the network access non-blocking.
[19:46] <onixx111> Hello, anybody tried to setup persistance over NFS with ubuntu Live CD ?
[19:46] <gridbag>    ..  like no buttons work until the "New printer" app gets done with a half-minute network query.
[19:46] <blargg> gridbag, do you need to add new printers often?
[19:46] <gridbag> blargg: Exactly.
[19:47] <gridbag> blargg: This is like the Sgt. Shultz OS.
[19:47] <lake> where can i find archived .deb packages. i am looking for libqt4-dev 4.6.3 that is available on 10.04, i think.
[19:47] <Seven_Six_Two> jakob1, ubiquity --desktop
[19:47] <onixx111> I am booting over PXE just fine at this point. I am trying to do persistance with an NFS mount instead of USB...
[19:47] <onixx111> any help would be appreciated
[19:47] <jakob1> Seven_Six_Two: Is that without GUI too? :)
[19:47] <myk_robinson> glebihan: you just saved me HOURS of digging through 179 folders of data I recovered. That command allowed me to quickly sort the data into logical folders. Thanks again
[19:47] <Seven_Six_Two> jakob1, that I'm not sure of. check ubiquity's man page
[19:48] <glebihan> myk_robinson, you're welcome :)
[19:48] <jakob1> alright, thanks alot man :D
[19:48] <stakhanov> Hi there folks! Does anybody in here know how to disable and powerdown the ethernet interface via command line?
[19:48] <spaceneedle> What do they mean by vanilla kernel?
[19:49] <Seven_Six_Two> spaceneedle, not modified from official kernel
[19:49] <stakhanov> (It's just the opposite of chocolate kernel)
[19:49] <ragarba>  /server irc.irc-hispano.org
[19:49] <Resistance> stakhanov:  sudo ifconfig <interface> down  ?
[19:49] <spaceneedle> Is the Android kernel a vanilla one?
[19:49] <onixx111> anybody tried the following: http://www.37rtm.host22.com/content/ubuntu-live-cd-persitence-using-nfs
[19:50] <stakhanov> @Resistance: Yeah but the lights on the hub still blink...
[19:50] <Resistance> stakhanov:  that's because you can't fully power off the net card
[19:50] <Resistance> stakhanov:  not without removing it from the system
[19:50] <stakhanov> I know in Mac OS X, you can disable it... In Ubuntu maybe?
[19:50] <Resistance> stakhanov:  that's what ifconfig down does :P
[19:51] <onixx111> stakhanov: many PCs even have the link up light when totally powered off
[19:51] <Gazimoff> Hi all
[19:51] <stakhanov> Yes but as I said, in the Mac interface disabled is not shown on the hub/switch, whereas Ubuntu after ifconfig down is still there...
[19:51] <onixx111> stakhanov: maybe disabling wake on lan could help in your bios
[19:51] <xsaidx> hello
[19:51] <stakhanov> Right! I could check that! Thanx onixx111.
[19:52] <gridbag> What is the app to verify my USB Logitech microphone is working? I just spent 25 minutes on hold to ATT, then once again, the MIC doesn't work. It works often, but how do I verify that? Thanks.
[19:52] <ashwin> Empathy does not seem to show the status as logged in from mobile (i mean sms not 3G) in yahoo messenger where a person is logged in from mobile. For me it shows as a regular user. Is there any work around or fix for this? I can see the correct status message in windows and yahoo messenger.
[19:54] <NimeshNeema> how to look up the man page of a command in a particular section ?
[19:54] <mcc> nimeeshneema: you mean, man 2 open ?
[19:54] <Seven_Six_Two> I installed from usb, and I think it's looking for the kernel on the (now unplugged) usb key. I've booted a live cd, but I don
[19:54] <Seven_Six_Two> don't know what to switch
[19:54] <mcc> ok so i'm trying to compile a bunch of stuff... couple questions
[19:55] <NimeshNeema> mcc: voila yes. got my query resolved. thanks
[19:55] <mcc> cool
[19:55] <mcc> one, i keep getting an error that gdk/gdkx.h can't be found, i google and see signs this is indicative of a problem with gtk-config being missing
[19:55] <mcc> gtk-config in fact doesn't seem to be present
[19:55] <mcc> but i don't find that in the package file search...
[19:55] <mcc> how do i get gtk-config / make gdk/gdkx.h findable?
[19:56] <mcc> Question two-- is there just like-- some big metapackage i can install, that includes "all the headers you will probably need"?
[19:56] <mcc> Becuase I've been just repeatedly typing in apt-get lines for -dev packages i don't have
[19:56] <mcc> repeatedly
[19:56] <zakkotron> i need to create a custom command in the open with menu and the command takes the filename to be opened as a command-line argument(i want to pass the current filename that is the one being double-clicked)
[19:56] <zakkotron> plz help
[19:57] <helo1> hey guys, I'm having an issue with my wireless. The problem is sporadic. Sometimes it won't happen for a few days, other it happens every few hours. I have found a reboot to be the only fix so far. It connects and works fine for an arbitrary amount of time and then randomly disconnects. It then refuses to connect again, asking for credentials over and over. This is the error from syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/788228/ I'm running U
[19:57] <ashwin> I think empathy is a crap compared to pidgin. I changed my irc nickname in empathy  settings, yet it doesnt show up. I restarted the empathy twice, still the same thing. I think it ignores the setting and is picking from ubuntu username.
[19:58] <lake> why do i see ubuntu-unregged ugh?
[19:58] <oCean> lake: you're no longer in -unregged
[19:59] <mrk> Hi everyone, I am trying to connect to a scanner that is attached to my network. the IP address is 192.168.1.22 but i cannot add it to xsane backend please help
[19:59] <lake> oCean: okay, thx for the confirmation. some reason i still see it.
[20:00] <jrib> lake: it's part of #ubuntu's mode settings
[20:00] <glebihan> mcc, the package you're missing is probably either libgtk-3-dev or libgtk2.0-dev (depending on whether the application you're trying to compile is a gtk2 or gtk3 app)
[20:00] <BluesKaj> mrk, add it to /etc/hosts.allow as root
[20:00] <mcc> glebihan: Yeah... I installed both those packages already
[20:00] <LucidGuy> anyone experienced with virsh snapshot-deletes?
[20:00] <e01> someone to help enabling 5.1 surround, the method with editing /etc/pulse/daemon.conf not works
[20:00] <mcc> there's this package file search... http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?mode=filename&suite=karmic&section=all&arch=any&searchon=contents&keywords=libgtk-config it told me to install libgtk2.0-dev
[20:01] <mcc> so what i suspect is that the file i want is actually installed, but the build script for this particular thing i am building doesn't know how to find it
[20:01] <glebihan> mcc, what's the application you're trying to compile ?
[20:01] <mrk> blueskaj thanks ill try it now
[20:01] <jrib> In oneiric on a macbook 4,1, « xset s activate » does not turn off the backlight; it just reduces brightness to a minumum.  How can I make it turn off the backlight?  (Yes, I've executed « xset s blank »)
[20:01] <Seveas> !find gdk/gdkx.h
[20:01] <xsaidx> i dont kno why my sudoers files get modified to NOPASSWD and its not the first time tho , any idea what may caus that
[20:02] <mcc> glebihan: Polycode -- http://polycode.org/ -- it's a ridiculously obscure game library, it's in alpha and the probability of its cmake scripts being misconfigured are quite high
[20:02] <Seveas> there you go mcc :)
[20:02] <cubicool> Hey guys, I'm running ubuntu 11.10 and for some reason, /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu and /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu aren't used by ldconfig. I can add these manually, but it seems to indicate something more systematically "broken" IMO. Any ideas what's going on?
[20:02] <mcc> seveas, I have all three of those installed
[20:02] <jrib> xsaidx: nosy brother
[20:02] <mcc> Is it surprising that there is not a gtk-config command on my system?
[20:02] <xsaidx> jrib:  what ?
[20:02] <Seveas> !find gtk-config
[20:02] <Seveas> hmm
[20:02] <jrib> xsaidx: another human being
[20:02] <mcc> interesting. i wonder why the website didn't find it...
[20:02] <Seveas> !find /usr/bin/gtk-config
[20:03] <urlin2u> xsaidx, that doesn't happen without somebody doing it.
[20:03] <xsaidx> jrib: noo its my machine and none use it
[20:03] <glebihan> mcc, mentioned on the download page : Unfortunately, there is currently no support for Linux users, but it will be coming in the next few weeks!
[20:03] <jrib> xsaidx: maybe you do it in your sleep? :)  Nothing should touch that file (and nothing can touch that file without sudo)
[20:03] <mcc> glebihan: Yeah, that's for the official release. I'm working off github D:
[20:03] <xsaidx> jrib: trust me i didnt
[20:04] <mcc> anyway looks like it's time to file bug reports
[20:04] <glebihan> mcc, I know, but that's mentioned right above the link to github
[20:04] <mrk> blueskaj it says it will not allow
[20:05] <Seveas> mcc, ah, gtk-config is for GTK 1, a completely dead library. This won't fly.
[20:05] <mcc> glebihan: yeah... the web page hasn't been updated since like July :) I think there have been itermittent revisions in github since then that supported linux, but that doesn't mean I actualy have one such version or that the "supports linux" version worked anywhere except on the original developer's machine
[20:06] <Electric_U> anyone know what "tethical" means?
[20:06] <mcc> seveas: then surely i don't actually need it. cool
[20:06] <mcc> anyway i think this at least confirms the problem is with Polycode, not Ubuntu
[20:06] <Seveas> ay
[20:06] <guntbert> Electric_U: is that an ubuntu support question?
[20:07] <Electric_U> not especially
[20:07] <mcc> is ubuntu still using updatedb/locate to find files or is there something better everyone's moved to now
[20:07] <Seveas> mcc, mlocate
[20:07] <Seveas> which has a non-stupid version of updatedb
[20:07] <stakhanov> @onix111: Unfortunately the disable WakeOnLan bios tip didn't help on powering down the ethernet device.
[20:08] <mcc> but i still just type updatedb to update the locate db?
[20:08] <Seveas> yeah
[20:08] <mcc> cool thanks all
[20:08] <Seveas> and cron does that for you too :)
[20:08] <onixx111> stakhanov: you may be out of luck then. as I said, my own PC here has the link up led on as soon as a power cord is connected to the PC
[20:08] <guntbert> Electric_U: in that case please use #ubuntu-offtopic for such discussions
[20:08] <mcc> i bet, but i just installed like 10 packages
[20:08] <mcc> + dependencies
[20:10] <stakhanov> @onix111: I guess I will try some other command to disable it entirely.
[20:10] <stakhanov> @onix111: Thanks, anyway! :)
[20:11] <guntbert> stakhanov: no need for the @  on irc :)
[20:12] <password> Happy New Year
[20:12] <password> Happy New Year
[20:12] <password> Happy New Year
[20:12] <FloodBot1> password: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:13] <BluesKaj> mrk , alt+F2 , gksudo gedit /etc/hosts.allow , add the pormap then below that, ALL: 192.168.1.22
[20:13] <BluesKaj> mrk, pormap=portmap
[20:14] <password> Happy New Year
[20:14] <stakhanov> Oops!
[20:14] <stakhanov> :)
[20:14] <oCean> password: thanks, but please move on topic, or /join #ubuntu-offtopic for social chat
[20:15] <Seveas> oCean, there's not much support going on in here now anyway, embrace the positive vibes of a happy new year ;)
[20:15] <benbloom> I need help getting a usb 2.0 pci card working. anyone got the time/interest?
[20:16] <Seveas> !anyone | benbloom
[20:16] <dmz41> Just installed Ubuntu. I see graphics driver unknown in "system info".
[20:16] <loganRun> just install ubuntu... how do I get the nvidia drivers install
[20:16] <xcyclist> ls
[20:16] <owenll> loganRun: System Settings -> Additional Drivers
[20:16] <Seveas> !nvidia | loganRun
[20:16] <BluesKaj> Seveas, nothing wrong with wishing good cheer , some should take notice of that and lighten up :)
[20:17] <password> RELAX PEOPLE YOU DO NOT WHERE YOUR Ubuntu will not get !!!
[20:17] <oCean> password: stop that please
[20:17] <Seveas> password, hmm, some actual grammar may help though, that sentence is unparseable
[20:17] <benbloom> well Seveas. I need help getting my usb card working. not sure why it's not showing up but i have no idea where to begin
[20:17] <Seveas> benbloom, ok, is it showing up with 'lspci'?
[20:18] <xcyclist> Say, I'm getting an email every 5 minutes to root that says:  " No ds tag found for target type ."  Can I make that go away?
[20:18] <Seveas> when you plug something in, does the device get power? Presumably data transfer isn't happening?
[20:18] <Seveas> xcyclist, remove the broken cronjob you added :)
[20:18] <xcyclist> But I have never put in anything for "cricket", and this has been going since october.
[20:19] <password> Seveas I FROM RUSSIA sry mi inglish ))
[20:19] <Seveas> xcyclist, look in /etc/cron.d/cricket (at least that's where I'd guess a cronjob for cricket would be)
[20:19] <Seveas> password, maybe #ubuntu-ru is more to your liking then :)
[20:19] <xcyclist> Yes, looking.
[20:19] <loganRun> is it better to use twinview or seporate screen
[20:20] <loganRun> when configuring a second monitor
[20:20] <Seveas> loganRun, whatever works for you.
[20:20] <password> I would like to congratulate all obizhatsya not to please Russian
[20:20] <loganRun> what is the difference?
[20:20] <password> bb ppl
[20:20] <mcc> oh
[20:20] <mcc> no
[20:20] <mcc> hell
[20:20] <Seveas> !enter | mcc
[20:21] <Seveas> :)
[20:22] <reesk> there isnt a standard to ubuntu hostnames is there like its got to be penquin related is there cause ive jut called mine ibiza
[20:22] <benbloom> Seveas: yes i beleive it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/788255/ I think it's the nvidia MCP73but it could be the NEC controller too. can you tell which one is the builtin?
[20:22] <mcc> sorry... ok so this is bizarre, the ubuntu image virtualbox distribuets is set up to suspend when the battery on the system is detected to be low. does this make sense? it isn't a real computer, why is it suspending :P
[20:22] <Seveas> reesk, no, hostname standards are the fun of computer building, ubuntu doesn't get in the way :)
[20:22] <dmz41> hmmm. I have ati card - but "Additional drivers" doesn't show any drivers that have to be installed.
[20:23] <Seveas> (mine are all named after airplanes, cameloids and insects)
[20:23] <Seveas> !fglrx | dmz41
[20:23] <Gnea> mcc: so that it doesn't drain the battery of the host computer
[20:23] <Seveas> dmz41, you may want the "fglrx" driver
[20:23] <reesk> ok wasnt sure weather ubuntu users kept them enguin related like naming each server after a famous penquin
[20:24] <dmz41> what would be the best driver for this one: VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]
[20:24] <Seveas> mcc, that's just the default setting, they didn't bother to change it
[20:24] <Seveas> dmz41, I'd go for fglrx
[20:24] <mcc> gnea: i guess that makes sense. anyway thanks
[20:24] <reesk> like how alot of progs are names tux or gnu or some other os name
[20:24] <Seveas> benbloom, the 00:04.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP73 [nForce 630i] USB 2.0 Controller (EHCI) (rev a1) is the builtin
[20:25] <BluesKaj> dmz41, is ther e a "recommended driver" in the additional drivers list ?
[20:25] <NimeshNeema> i installed get-flash-videos using apt-get but couldn't find it how to execute. any idea ?
[20:25] <Seveas> 01:06.0 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43) will be the extra controller, seems like ubuntu recognizes it just fine
[20:25] <dmz41> BluesKaj: no =- there is no recommended driver.
[20:25] <BluesKaj> dmz41, ok  , too bad
[20:25] <benbloom> ok Seveas. that was my second guess ;)
[20:26] <owenll> NimeshNeema: get_flash_videos [url] in terminal?
[20:26] <krisss117> hi, how scan wifi ap in command line ?
[20:27] <guest_> heres a cool program I wrote guys check it out http://pastebin.com/RRAYHtNf
[20:27] <Seveas> benbloom, so, what happens if you plug in a device in the usb port? Can you plug in some storage device, then run dmesg and pastebin all the output?
[20:27] <NimeshNeema> owenll: how to get the url of videos ?
[20:27] <Seveas> (wait 10 seconds between plugging in and running dmesg)
[20:27] <oCean> guest_: don't advertise that here
[20:27] <guntbert> krisss117: sudo iwlist scan
[20:28] <krisss117> thxxxx
[20:29] <owenll> NimeshNeema: source code of page? in youtube it's in the address bar
[20:30] <jpsman> I have a destkop and a laptop both running 10.04 that are connected with an ethernet cable.  how can i share the files over the ethernet cable?
[20:30] <jpsman> Or what would one even type into google to find this out?
[20:30] <trism> NimeshNeema: I think the idea is you give the url to the webpage of the video, not the video itself (if you had that, you could just use wget)
[20:30] <Seveas> jpsman, samba, http, ssh, rsync
[20:30] <Seveas> I find it easiest to install openssh-server on both and use ssh or rsync, but I'm a terminal junkie :)
[20:30] <NimeshNeema> owenll: cool. thanks
[20:31] <Seveas> jpsman, and I'd google for 'ubuntu file sharing'
[20:31] <benbloom> Seveas: thanks for your help. the problem seems to have worked itself out. I am a bit embarrassed for coming here before I tested the port again. but i've learned a valuable lesson
[20:31] <NimeshNeema> trism: will try with wget as well
[20:31] <jpsman> Seveas, so I would just run ssh and then with what command?  eth0?
[20:31] <Seveas> jpsman, do both machines have an IP address already?
[20:32] <BluesKaj> !ssh | jpsman
[20:32] <Seveas> network-manager should do this link-local thing automagically
[20:32] <Seven_Six_Two> jpsman, are the two computers permanently connected with network cable?
[20:32] <Seveas> benbloom, no problem :)
[20:32] <crassus> How high is the accuracy/likelihood of what Ubuntu's telling me about "disk failure being imminent" ?
[20:32] <benbloom> jpsman: you also might be interested in nfs
[20:32] <jpsman> seveas, well, they are both connected wirelessly to a WLAN router, and I can definatly transfer files that way, but it take FOREVER
[20:32] <Seven_Six_Two> jpsman, and is it a crossover cable?
[20:32] <reesk> whats the best way to set up samba through tasksel or manually after the install
[20:32] <jpsman> yes, i am using a crossover cable
[20:33] <Seven_Six_Two> jpsman, how are you transferring when you use the wifi?
[20:33] <Seveas> jpsman, did network-manager set up the wired connection for you?
[20:33] <guntbert> crassus: as it is taking that estimate from SMART, I'd say rather high
[20:33] <compitz> hi guys, can you help me chroot commands for quick
[20:33] <jpsman> no network-manager did not.
[20:33] <crassus> guntbert: how long generally do i have?
[20:33] <Halabund> How can I install a package from synaptic *without* installing certain dependencies?  I do not want to install any texlive packages, ever, as I already have a newer version of texlive installed (which doesn't use .debs unfortunately)
[20:33] <crassus> and what's SMART?
[20:33] <Seveas> jpsman, try clicking on the network-manager icon and then 'wired' or something. On both at the same time.
[20:34] <Seveas> !smart
[20:34] <jrib> In oneiric on a macbook 4,1, « xset s activate » does not turn off the backlight; it just reduces brightness to a minumum.  How can I make it turn off the backlight?  (Yes, I've executed « xset s blank »)
[20:34] <compitz> edbain, are you there
[20:34] <jpsman> with the wireless i can just connect with filezilla or even go up to Places -> connect to server and I use the WLAN ip address
[20:34] <compitz> edbian , are you there
[20:34] <Seveas> crassus, smart is a way for disks to notify the operating system when they see a breakage coming on.
[20:34] <guntbert> crassus: cannot say  - see Self-Monitoring, Analysis and Reporting Technology
[20:34] <jpsman> sevas, they are both spinning now
[20:34] <crassus> good thing I've been meaning to migrate to a fresh install and I've backed up pretty much everything, including all my settings and important dotfiles and documents
[20:34] <jrib> Halabund: just use the packages from the repositories for texlive or if you insist use equivs (but I don't recommend this)
[20:35] <Seven_Six_Two> jpsman, If you can just connect to a router with both it will be easier. then set up nfs for fast transfers. it's faster than ssh because it doesn't encrypt and decrypt
[20:35] <crassus> oh well, this calls for a new notebook then
[20:35] <jpsman> well, they are both connected with a wireless router, and I can do it wirelessly, but it takes forever
[20:35] <jpsman> and no i cant get to the router that way
[20:36] <Seveas> jpsman, did the spinning stop already?
[20:36] <Seven_Six_Two> jpsman, are you trying to use ssh over the wifi?
[20:36] <Halabund> jrib, the repositories (or: any repository that I managed to google up) contains a very outdated version of texlive.  I am already using packages which are too new to work with this (I used them on Windows with MikTeX).  I don't want to rewrite my tex files just because ubuntu doesn't include up to date versions of texlive.
[20:36] <jpsman> sevas, yes the spinning stoped and it said disconnected
[20:36] <Halabund> jrib, what are equivs?  Does that thing allow me to skip installing texlive?
[20:36] <jpsman> seven_six_two, i can do that easily, just takes forever
[20:36] <Seveas> ok, then you need to configure it, click on n-m, go to edit connections
[20:36] <jpsman> ok
[20:37] <compitz> is there a log of this chaT?
[20:37] <Seveas> and add a 'wired connection' with a fixed ip address in a different network range than your wireless
[20:37] <jpsman> I have Auto eth0 and Auto Ethernet
[20:37] <Seven_Six_Two> jpsman, nfs would be faster than ssh, but if you want to use crossover, you can set up a static network
[20:37] <Seveas> jpsman, 10.13.37.1 and 10.13.37.2 will probably do. Make the netmask 255.255.255.0
[20:37] <guntbert> !logs | compitz
[20:37] <jrib> Halabund: apt-cache show equivs
[20:37] <Seven_Six_Two> jpsman, put both on the same subnet like Seveas says. no need for gateway.
[20:38] <reesk> is open ssh the thing that will alow me to login to the terminal remotley
[20:38] <osmosis> is there an extension to unload a tab from memory if it has been unused for a while? So that a bunch of tabs I havent looked at recently are not taking up a lot of ram.
[20:38] <compitz> thx guntbert
[20:38] <Seveas> reesk, it is indeed
[20:38] <reesk> thanks
[20:38] <bo> hello, i am trying to make karmic koala work on my cpu.  can somebody please help me?...
[20:38] <guntbert> compitz: you're welcome :-)
[20:38] <Seven_Six_Two> bo, why karmic?
[20:38] <Seveas> !anyone | bo
[20:38] <oCean> bo: karmic is end of life, try a more recent version
[20:38] <compitz> guntbert, i need the one of today, this is Dec 1. and older
[20:38] <bo> i have tried looking at the community forums and doing some of the things it suggested but to no avail
[20:38] <guntbert> bo: karmic is !eol
[20:39] <Seveas> Isn't karmic LTS?
[20:39] <crassus> no Seveas
[20:39] <oCean> Seveas: no lucid is 10 04
[20:39] <rhizmoe> does anybody remember that window manager navigation thingy that was like an expanding circle around the mouse pointer?
[20:39] <Seveas> ah, crap, right
[20:39] <reesk> if i plug a external usb hdd drive into ubuntu server can i have it mounted as a network share and also will it survive a reboot
[20:39] <Seveas> yeah, don't use karmic
[20:39] <guntbert> compitz: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/12/30/ubuntu.html
[20:39] <rhizmoe> reesk: yes and yes
[20:39] <compitz> can someone see what edbian told me earlier on this page?
[20:40] <Seveas> reesk, yes you can mount it, and I don't know what you mean with 'survive a reboot'
[20:40] <guntbert> compitz: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/12/30/#ubuntu.html
[20:40] <hiltonmagk> trying to install Ubuntu 11.04 and it's rebooting right after it gets done installing the base system.  Had luck installing on a different machine with a different video card and tried to install with the nomodeset per ActionParship but that didn't fix the problem
[20:40] <reesk> when i reboot will ubuntu remount it to the network share the same it would with a intrnal drive
[20:41] <bo> so if i have karmic installed, then i should just make an .iso image of 11.10 (somehow), and install that also (or delete karmic in the process)?
[20:41] <Seveas> reesk, if you tell it to.
[20:41] <Seven_Six_Two> reesk, I think it might try to export the drive before it's mounted
[20:41] <reesk> Seveas: cool
[20:41] <reesk> Seven_Six_Two: what does that mean
[20:41] <compitz> guntbert, which one is the #ubuntu channel?
[20:41] <Seven_Six_Two> reesk, it's external, like a usb external hd?
[20:42] <Seveas> bo, well, if it's not working anyway, just wipe it and install 11.04 or 11.10
[20:42] <reesk> yes
[20:42] <bo> wipe it?
[20:42] <dmz41> em. So. how to install open-source ATI driver in freshly installed Uubntu 10.10?
[20:42] <Seven_Six_Two> reesk, are you trying to export it with nfs?
[20:42] <Seveas> dmz41, that one is installed by default :)
[20:42] <guntbert> compitz: sorry, try http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/12/30/%23ubuntu.html
[20:42] <jxl> bo: just install new one
[20:43] <reesk> Seven_Six_Two: im not sure im just ryring to get the same setup i had in freenas where i left if plugged in and it mounted it as a nfs networ share so i could access it via windoze
[20:43] <reesk> and through a few other services
[20:43] <bo> 11.04 vs 11.10?
[20:43] <Seveas> that's not nfs but samba
[20:43] <Seveas> windows doesn't do nfs :)
[20:43] <reesk> ive installed samba
[20:43] <bo> what do ya'll use?
[20:43] <Seveas> 12.04 alpha, bo :)
[20:43] <dmz41> Seveas: . "It is also enabled by default from Ubuntu Natty/11.04 on." - but it doesn't work????
[20:44] <jxl> bo: depends what you need
[20:44] <t1m310rd> i need to port an installation to a 2 drive raid0 installation. the installation will use the drive where the os was already installed
[20:44] <Seveas> !doesn't work | dmz41
[20:44] <reesk> could one of you run me though setting this drive up in samba when i gt to it in a few ins
[20:44] <duckduckgo> i wonnder how many people would switch to ubuntu if adobe supported linux
[20:45] <Seven_Six_Two> reesk, I believe you would have to explicitly mount it in fstab, because I don't think it will automount like it does when you're logged in and you plug it in.
[20:45] <dmz41> ubottu: system info -> graphics -> driver says "unknown".
[20:45] <oCean> duckduckgo: please use #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[20:45] <bo> why would somebody want to use older versions of ubuntu?
[20:45] <bo> *choose to use
[20:45] <reesk> Seven_Six_Two: it wont be unplugging it ever so it will become a permenant drive to the server so im open to doing anything
[20:45] <dmz41> ubottu: ?
[20:45] <auronandace> !bot | dmz41
[20:46] <jxl> bo: i.e. using LTS to have updates etc.
[20:46] <reesk> !sudo
[20:46] <bo> who cares about updates?
[20:46] <reesk> love it
[20:46] <reesk> please excuse me
[20:46] <auronandace> bo: many people
[20:46] <reesk> !fstab
[20:47] <reesk> ubottu i love you
[20:47] <bo> but what is good about updates?
[20:47] <oCean> reesk: to use the bot in private type  /msg ubottu !bot
[20:47] <NimeshNeema> !ubuntu
[20:47] <Melissa2012> I have a HP 64 bit Laptop.  Which alternative ISO do I need? the one called? ubuntu-11.10-alternate-amd64.iso.torrent ?
[20:47] <oCean> bo: security updates are usually a wise choice to install
[20:47] <jrib> bo: updates usually fix some problem, e.g. a security issue
[20:47] <Melissa2012> whats LTS?
[20:47] <jxl> bo: nvm, just install latest version
[20:47] <Seveas> Melissa2012, Long Term Support
[20:48] <auronandace> !lts | Melissa2012
[20:48] <reesk> i like that bot
[20:48] <Melissa2012> Seveas: im confused which ISO to get from here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download
[20:48] <bo> so if somebody is not interested in security issues, then updates don't matter?
[20:48] <dmz41> So I get this: system info -> graphics -> driver says "unknown".  I'm on fresh Ubuntu 10.10 install.
[20:48] <reesk> yay i got over 5 years of support for server 11
[20:48] <Seveas> Melissa2012, what do you want to do?
[20:48] <Melissa2012> Seveas: theres so many, which one is the 64 bit that will work on my HP Laptop?
[20:48] <jrib> bo: erm, I guess
[20:48] <bo> hm. ok
[20:48] <compitz> does 10.4 lucid by default work with grub2?
[20:48] <oCean> reesk: no, 5 years is for LTS releases (10.04, 12.04)
[20:49] <Melissa2012> Seveas: I want to install Ubuntu 64 bit OS on my HP Laptop, then use for media, internet, TV etc
[20:49] <reesk> wut
[20:49] <reesk> you mean 11 wotn becoem a lts
[20:49] <Guest31512> I'm using gnome 3, can anyone tell me how to change a double-click on the title bar from minimize to maximize?
[20:49] <oCean> reesk: correct
[20:49] <Melissa2012> Seveas: and I want to encrypt the file system in case laptop gets stolen
[20:49] <reesk> aww nuts
[20:49] <jrib> reesk: no such thing as version 11, there's 11.04 and 11.10
[20:49] <Seveas> Melissa2012, go to http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download, select latest and 64 bit, then click download
[20:49] <Seven_Six_Two> reesk, http://myubuntublog.wordpress.com/2009/05/25/auto-mount-usb-hard-drive-at-boot/
[20:49] <Seveas> Melissa2012, during install you can select 'encrypt my homedir'
[20:49] <dmz41> ubottu: system info -> graphics -> driver says "unknown".
[20:49] <dmz41> system info -> graphics -> driver says "unknown".
[20:50] <bo> so would anybody care to help me get my karmic koala working?... or point me in the right direction?
[20:50] <Melissa2012> Seveas: is selecting 'encrypt my homedir' the same as getting the altenrative and encrypting the whole ubuntu?
[20:50] <jxl> bo: updates do matter
[20:50] <oCean> bo: karmic is EOL, and no longer supported in this channel
[20:50] <auronandace> bo: karmic is no longer supported here
[20:50] <Seveas> Melissa2012, no, but you don't really need to encrypt anything besides your homedir, do you?
[20:50] <Seven_Six_Two> Melissa2012, no, they are not the same
[20:50] <bo> oh... is there a channel that it's supported in? or do i have to support myself with it? lol
[20:51] <oCean> bo: End Of Life = no more support
[20:51] <Melissa2012> Seveas: good point :)
[20:51] <jxl> bo: why do you need karmic?
[20:51] <auronandace> bo: you support it yourself or use something that is supported
[20:51] <reesk> how come 11.04 wont be lts
[20:51] <Melissa2012> Seveas: in case my laptop gets stolen, nobody can access my private files then?
[20:51] <oCean> reesk: LTS have 2 year interval
[20:51] <hiltonmagk> trying to install Ubuntu 11.04 and it's rebooting right after it gets done installing the base system.  Had luck installing on a different machine with a different video card and tried to install with the nomodeset per ActionParship but that didn't fix the problem
[20:51] <Seveas> reesk, LTS releases come once every 2 years
[20:51] <reesk> ahh
[20:52] <Slart> bo: you can always try one of general channels.. like ##linux .. they might just say you should install something newer though.. but perhaps someone will help you out
[20:52] <reesk> hey if ubuntu installes grub 2 does that mean i get all the cool things such as iso boot aswell
[20:52] <Seveas> Melissa2012, private files are only in your homedir, or at least they should be :)
[20:52] <bo> jxl: i don't need it, but i waz using it and would like to make it work... no strong reason
[20:52] <bo> thanks Slart
[20:52] <dmz41> this channell is pointless. too many people lemmings.
[20:52] <Guest31512> where can I go for gnome3 support?
[20:52] <Seveas> Guest31512, #gnome on irc.gimp.org :)
[20:52] <Slart> Guest31512: I think there is a ##gnome channel..
[20:52] <jpsman> oh WOW much better - 7mb versus 500 k
[20:52] <Melissa2012> Seveas: security and ecryption is highest priority in case my lattop gets stolen.  So i will get the normal ISO and select encrypt home dir, and that will give me the best security possible?
[20:52]  * reesk has uch <3 for iso boot
[20:52] <jpsman> thanks guys!
[20:52] <jpsman> :OP
[20:52] <jpsman> :OD
[20:53] <FloodBot1> jpsman: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:53]  * reesk has *much <3 for iso boot
[20:53] <compitz> c_smith, i didnt work, still black screen, also to  edbian, escott
[20:53] <Seveas> Melissa2012, that'll give you an encrypted homedir. I think that strikes the best balance between fast and safe.
[20:53] <Melissa2012> Seveas: sounds good to me :)
[20:53] <Seveas> I use it as well, and store non-personal movies etc. outside the encrypted homedir
[20:53] <Melissa2012> Seveas: thank you
[20:53] <hiltonmagk> Can anyone help me?
[20:54] <Melissa2012> hiltonmagk: i wish I could, but I have no clue :P
[20:54] <Seven_Six_Two> compitz, you can't boot? did you install from usb?
[20:54] <Jordan_U> reesk: Yes, you can use Ubuntu's grub2 to loop boot isos (if the isos support loop booting).
[20:54] <guntbert> Melissa2012: well, strictly speaking, part of your data may be still accessible in /tmp and in swap
[20:54] <Seveas> guntbert, cryptswap :)
[20:54] <Seveas> and you shouldn't store personal things in /tmp
[20:54] <Melissa2012> guntbert: what kind of private data can be in /tmp and in swap that thieves could use?
[20:54] <Seveas> Melissa2012, swap can contain anything that's in memory, so you can encrypt the swap partition
[20:55] <Slart> hiltonmagk: I think it's supposed to reboot when it's done installing.. but I assume it reboots/crashes during the install, right? any error messages?
[20:55] <Seveas> /tmp shouldn't contain anything personal
[20:55] <compitz> Seven_Six_Two, i can boot installed from live cd long ago, now change video driver, blck screen on startup
[20:55] <Melissa2012> Seveas: so I can encrypt the swap file later after installation using cryptswap ?
[20:55] <hiltonmagk> yeah it reboots during
[20:55] <hiltonmagk> no errors
[20:55] <guntbert> Melissa2012: any program you use can use files in /tmp ....
[20:55] <skegeek> I reinstalled (back to 10.04) to stop the freezing, but it didn't work. However, I noticed the freeze happens after the monitor light has turned orange (after screen has turned black).
[20:55] <Seven_Six_Two> compitz, can you alt+ctrl+F1 and see a terminal?
[20:56] <Melissa2012> guntbert: can u give me some examples where personal data can be in /tmp?
[20:56] <compitz> nope, nothing shows after GRUB screen
[20:56] <Seveas> Melissa2012, I'm not sure whether I did that during or after install. It's definitely possible to do it afterwards though
[20:56] <Melissa2012> Seveas: where do I get cryptswap ?
[20:56] <Seveas> Melissa2012, it's installed by default
[20:56] <compitz> Seven_Six_Two , nope, nothing shows after GRUB screen
[20:56] <Seven_Six_Two> compitz, can you boot a different kernel?
[20:56] <Melissa2012> Seveas: how do I activate cryptswap so my swap is always encrypted?
[20:56] <Seveas> and if the installer doesn't offer you the option to encrypt swap, google for 'ubuntu encrypted swap' later, it's easy to set up
[20:57] <compitz> Seven_Six_Two, why would I do that?
[20:57] <Melissa2012> guntbert: how can I clean out the tmp folder automatically everytime I turn laptop off?
[20:57] <Slart> hiltonmagk: hard to tell.. I've had my ubuntu box crash/restart on me without error messages but never during install... you're sure the install media is alright? md5 check and so on
[20:57] <Seven_Six_Two> compitz, so that you can get to a terminal and undo.
[20:57] <Seveas> Melissa2012, ubuntu already does that :)
[20:57] <compitz> hmm, sounds too weiry
[20:57] <guntbert> Melissa2012: I don't want to scare you, but that depends entirely on the programs - just get a balance with your security needs - is it only private or are there enterprise data as well?
[20:57] <hiltonmagk> I used the same disk on another install
[20:57] <Seven_Six_Two> compitz, you can fix pretty much anything from a terminal. what are you expecting?
[20:58] <Melissa2012> Seveas: so everytime I turn off laptop, it auto cleans out the tmp folder?
[20:58] <Seveas> yeah
[20:58] <hiltonmagk> I think it's the video card possibly but not sure how to bypassthat problem
[20:58] <compitz> Seven_Six_Two, hmm, sounds too weiry, well i wanna see it, now on live CD i have it, trying to figure out if that will suffice with chroot
[20:59] <Seven_Six_Two> compitz, "weiry"? booting to a different kernel is far easier than trying to chroot.\
[20:59] <Slart> hiltonmagk: well.. either that or memory/overheating issues
[21:00] <hiltonmagk> checked memory and I can't imagine it's overheating
[21:00] <compitz> Seven_Six_Two weary, exhausting im new to that, well, im telling you what im doing in a sec, you can judge my newbie behaviour if you want...
[21:00] <Slart> hiltonmagk: you're using the alternate install? or the regular desktop install live cd?
[21:00] <Seven_Six_Two> compitz, and if you can get to a terminal, you can either uninstall the bad driver, or just do:   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:01] <hiltonmagk> server install
[21:01] <Melissa2012> Seveas: thats good to know, so once I encrypt homedir, encrypt swap file and ubuntu auto cleans /tmp when I turn off.  Is there anything else I need to do?
[21:01] <Selmack> exit
[21:01] <vouth> Hi again. Why is my script, in /usr/bin/wxn/, always using /root for $HOME????
[21:02] <Melissa2012> guntbert: the data I have on my laptop is very secure and sensitive from the corporation I work for.  Nobody can get access to it or it will compromise my company.
[21:02] <Slart> hiltonmagk: hmm.. well... then I'm out of ideas.. not sure if you can run the install in some kind of verbose mode to get a better idea about what is making it die
[21:02] <Seven_Six_Two> vouth, who is the script's owner and group?
[21:02] <vouth> Seven_Six_Two: root
[21:02] <Melissa2012> guntbert: you seem to not like this idea of encrypting homedir, swap file? why not?
[21:02] <Seven_Six_Two> vouth, root's home is /root
[21:03] <Melissa2012> why is downloading the Ubuntu iso so slow?
[21:03] <vouth> Seven_Six_Two: Well, it's being run by another user. And that user's home is under /home.
[21:03] <compitz> Seven_Six_Two, now this is what im doing, cause in http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/ it sounded so easy: i edited the grub line to "quiet splash nomodeset" -like suggested for nvidia, now the second step would be to update-grub, this is what im about to
[21:03] <Slart> Melissa2012: try one of the torrent downloads.. might be better
[21:03] <Seven_Six_Two> vouth, run with sudo?
[21:03] <vouth> Seven_Six_Two: How can I make it use the $HOME of the user running it rather than the $HOME of the owner?
[21:03] <guntbert> Melissa2012: no, it was only a generally meant warning - not knowing your expectations - as you said coporate data: I advise to have a talk with your IT folk
[21:04] <Melissa2012> guntbert: my IT folks are window users, they dont have a clue lol
[21:04] <Melissa2012> thats why I wanted to use Ubuntu, for security reasons
[21:04] <Melissa2012> instead of windows
[21:04] <Slart> Melissa2012: security comes with the user.. not the tool =)
[21:04] <Melissa2012> Slart: how do I find the 64 bit torrent?
[21:05] <vouth> Seven_Six_Two: Well, it's being invoked by a .desktop file that is then executing a script which runs gksu on the script that uses $HOME.
[21:05] <guntbert> Melissa2012: if they take their notebooks outside the workplace then you should be fine with the above settings
[21:05] <Melissa2012> Slart: but the system still needs to be secured
[21:05] <Slart> Melissa2012: it's in there somewhere.. let me see if they've moved it somewhere
[21:05] <Seveas> Melissa2012, encrypted home and swap is good enough for me. And data on my laptop can do worse things than bankrupt the company :)
[21:05] <vouth> Seven_Six_Two: So it basically is using sudo. (at least by my understanding)
[21:05] <Faissal> hi i cant get ushare to work with my xbox it says wlan0 is down but its not
[21:05] <Melissa2012> is the alternetive ubuntu, and doing a whole system encryption, going to affect performance a lot?
[21:06] <Melissa2012> Seveas: hehe
[21:06] <skegeek> Does 10.04 use a black screensaver by default??
[21:06] <Slart> Melissa2012: look here http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#bt  .. it's called amd64 regardless of what cpu you're using
[21:06] <Melissa2012> Seveas: how much slower and sluggish will the alternative full system encryption be compared to just encrypting the homedir?
[21:07] <Melissa2012> Slart: this one? ubuntu-11.10-alternate-amd64.iso.torrent
[21:07] <vouth> Seven_Six_Two: Is there some quirk of gksu that I'm missing? Is the problem maybe that a script owned by root is what is running gksu? Do I need to have gksu run directly by the .desktop file?
[21:07] <Slart> Melissa2012: that's the 64 bit alternate installer for 11.10, yes
[21:07] <Melissa2012> Slart: how much slower and sluggish will the alternative full system encryption be compared to just encrypting the homedir?  had any experience between both?
[21:07] <Seven_Six_Two> vouth, I was looking for a solution, but it's sudo's default behaviour to change to target (root) user's environment variables.
[21:08] <Seveas> Melissa2012, I found it noticabley slower
[21:08] <Seveas> though that was a while ago
[21:08] <Slart> Melissa2012: I've never done full system encryption so I wouldn't know.. haven't heard anything really bad about either though
[21:08] <mcc> if i'm compiling an application for distribution, is it better to compile against the gtk-2.0 headers or the gtk-3.0 headers? is it possible some people will not be able to use my app if i compile against 3.0?
[21:08] <Melissa2012> Seveas: ok
[21:09] <vouth> Seven_Six_Two: Also, what would I do about scripts that aren't being run by gksu? They're having the same problem. Hasn't anyone ever needed to run a script owned by root that edits files in the executor's home directory before ??!?
[21:09] <compitz> Seven_Six_Two does this look good what im doing? chrooting update-grub on hdd?
[21:09] <ironfoot495> Hi I have a problem with filezlla I can upload files but I can't download files is there anyone who has had this problem?
[21:09] <Melissa2012> its downloading at 1.1MB/s now :)
[21:09] <reesk> what text editors does ubuntu server have beside vi i hate vi
[21:10] <Seveas> reesk, emacs, nano, joe
[21:10] <Slart> reesk: pico?
[21:10] <Melissa2012> Seveas: im getting the normal version and will encrypt homedir. Thanks for your advice
[21:10] <Seveas> reesk, but you should join the vim cult! We have cookies!
[21:10] <guiri> Howdy.  Firefox seems to be disabling lightspark, a flash plugin.  Does anyone know how to explicitly enable it?  it doesn't even show up in the Addons, but I see it in the /usr/share plugins folder
[21:10] <reesk> screw vim its confusing as heck to use
[21:10] <TridenX> Is this the most popular channel on freenode?
[21:11] <gnutun> im having trouble boot the install cd from usb on a macbook air; the video is all messed up, and nomodeset doesnt help; any ideas?
[21:11] <Melissa2012> one last question.  Can the Ubuntu ISO I am downloading be installed on a windows system and will it create a dual boot menu?
[21:11] <ironfoot495> is there a better sftp out there?
[21:12] <reesk> things never go well when me and vim get together
[21:12] <reesk> i hve much love for gedit
[21:12] <BluesKaj> guiri, it should be in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[21:12] <Seveas> Melissa2012, yes and yes
[21:12] <ironfoot495> I can upload but not down files.
[21:12] <compitz> following this link didnt work http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/  maybe because i couldnt run update-grub. can someone help here?
[21:13] <guiri> BluesKaj: Thanks!  I'll cp them in
[21:13] <VCoolio> vouth: specify user like gksu -u yourname command
[21:14] <Seven_Six_Two> vouth, gksudo takes the -k switch to preserve $PATH and $HOME
[21:14] <BluesKaj> guiri, make sure it's the libflashplayer.so
[21:14] <VCoolio> vouth: or if multiple user need to use this: gksu -u $(whoami) command
[21:14] <ironfoot495>  compitz: I've recently had that problem and solved it do you need help?
[21:14] <guiri> well, in this case it's liblightspark.so but I believe is registers as Flash 10.2.  I'm running on PPC, so flash on Linux doesn't work
[21:14] <ironfoot495> if so tell me what is the problem?
[21:14] <onixx111> I am trying to boot over PXE the live CD and mount an NFS share on /cow. I have modified the casper script to do this. I believe I had it all setup properly hover I get a kernel crash when the mount command runs. something to do with nfs_lookup_revalidate
[21:14] <compitz> im hungry for help ironfoot495, been stuck on this for 3 days now
[21:14] <Seven_Six_Two> vouth, sudo does a similar thing with -E
[21:15] <BluesKaj> guiri,  right
[21:15] <ironfoot495> or what have you done to solve it so far?
[21:15] <compitz> ironfoot495, was your problem with 10.4 lucid as well?
[21:15] <Melissa2012> Seveas: I need to keep Windows 7 for one thing, to play Battlefield online.  If Ubuntu would support that, then I could remove Windiws 7 for good.
[21:15] <onixx111> kernel oops error with a trace
[21:15] <Melissa2012> Seveas: oh well :P
[21:15] <iceroot> !appdb | Melissa2012
[21:15] <ironfoot495> ok talk to me what have done so far what type of screen and anything else you can think of?
[21:15] <reesk> anyone got experiance in fstab
[21:16] <iceroot> !anyone | reesk
[21:16] <ironfoot495> yes
[21:16] <Melissa2012> iceroot: Battlefield don't work on Wine and Ubuntu, ive read about it.  I think PUnkbuster is the main culprit
[21:16] <iceroot> Melissa2012: ah ok :(
[21:16] <ironfoot495> so what have you done so far you have to let me know hee you are
[21:16] <VCoolio> Seven_Six_Two: with sudo -E whoami is still root :/
[21:16] <ironfoot495> where you are?
[21:17] <reesk> is this the correct syntax /dev/sb1 /mnt/640 auto auto,user,rw,exec 0 0
[21:17] <Melissa2012> iceroot: its a shame, if my online game worked on Ubuntu, I would remove Windows for good
[21:17] <Seven_Six_Two> VCoolio, yes, but whoami should have access to your path and home, not root's
[21:17] <compitz> ironfoot495, http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/ it sounded so easy: i edited the grub line to "quiet splash nomodeset" -like suggested for nvidia. the second step was not possible for the original problem is a black/shut off screen after the lucid load, at the point of time wehen the login-screen should appear, i cannto open a termial cause all I see is black
[21:17] <Melissa2012> iceroot: do ubuntu have any plans to support online games like battlefield etc?
[21:18] <iceroot> Melissa2012: that is not in the hand of ubuntu, its in the hand of EA
[21:18] <iceroot> Melissa2012: and EA is evil like hell/apple
[21:18] <Seven_Six_Two> VCoolio, try  sudo -E echo $HOME
[21:18] <compitz> ironfoot495, the socond step would be update-grub
[21:18] <alruin> mag ik een dropje
[21:18] <iceroot> reesk: /dev/sdb1
[21:19] <ironfoot495> ok you have worked with grub did you add the proprietary driver yet?
[21:19] <oCean> alruin: wrong channel, try #ubuntu-nl
[21:19] <edbian> Melissa2012, the wine project is probably trying to get that game working.  Look it up on winehq.com
[21:19] <alruin> dank je wel'
[21:19] <VCoolio> Seven_Six_Two: yes, did something like that, that's ok; but if whoami is root, what would file permissions be on a file created in $HOME by his script? owned by root, right? doesn't sound like something you'd want
[21:19] <iceroot> reesk: and /mnt/640 will use a directory called "640" inside /mnt i dont think i mean that
[21:19] <reesk> thats what i put
[21:19] <ironfoot495> you'll find it in systems
[21:19] <Melissa2012> edbian: nobody can get battlefield 2142 to work with wine and Ubuntu. I read about it
[21:19] <Seven_Six_Two> VCoolio, good point
[21:19] <edbian> Melissa2012, ahhh, sorry to hear that
[21:19] <iceroot> reesk: i guess you wanted the permission 640?
[21:19] <Melissa2012> edbian: me too
[21:19] <compitz> ironfoot495, i got the problem after uninstalling the standard nvidia driver, i wanted to try the open source one because of minor problems, no I think this messed it all up
[21:20] <edbian> Melissa2012, run win 7 in a virtual machine (or dual boot)
[21:20] <Seven_Six_Two> exit
[21:20] <edbian> Melissa2012, gaming is a weak spot for linux
[21:20] <Seveas> Seven_Six_Two, here, have a slash: /
[21:20] <Seveas> :)
[21:20] <reesk> i made a dir in mnt called 640 refering to the size of the device for easy reference
[21:20] <Melissa2012> edbian: yes I will use Ubuntu for 99% of the time and when I want to play Battlfield, Ill just reboot into W7
[21:20] <ironfoot495> after you do that reboot and go to recovery and and go to safe graphics and follow the instruction and you will be up!
[21:20] <Melissa2012> edbian: yes I realise.
[21:21] <edbian> Melissa2012, there  ya go
[21:21] <Melissa2012> edbian: :-)
[21:21] <ironfoot495> if not I'll go step by step with you.
[21:21] <Edward2> Hello again. Having more sound problems. When I click on Sound Settings -> Input and try to change the Connector to Analog Microphone, it resets itself to Analog Line-In. Why does it do that?
[21:21] <compitz> ironfoot, please can you type my name compitz so i can see you are talking to me
[21:21] <compitz> ironfoot495, please can you type my name compitz so i can see you are talking to me
[21:21] <ironfoot495>  compitz: ok sorry!!!
[21:21] <Melissa2012> edbian: the Windows 7 I have is only 32bit, so it will be nice to use 64 bit Ubuntu :-)
[21:21] <edbian> ironfoot495, I had him install nouveau you can probably get things back to before by just puring that and installing nvidia-96   for the record.  However I think nomodeset will fix the problem he has now
[21:22] <compitz> alright, ironfoot495
[21:22] <dunpeal> Hi. Recently, on Oneiric, many times shortly after a reboot, my touchpad stops working. Anyone familar with this problem?
[21:22] <edbian> Melissa2012, meh, do you have > 3.2 Gb of ram?
[21:22] <Melissa2012> edbian: 4GB ram
[21:22] <guntbert> !tab | ironfoot495 compitz
[21:22] <edbian> Melissa2012, why only 32 bit windows then? cheaper?
[21:22] <iceroot> Melissa2012: the sad thing is that the game companys mostly dont support games for linux. its no problem to run games on linux (quake, unreal tournament and some others) are running directly on linux. but because most of the people are using windows, the game companys dont support linux because the amount of linux-customers is to small (world of goo was showing something different but game companys dont care about that)
[21:22] <Melissa2012> edbian: is there a big benefit me using 64bit ubuntu compared to 32 bit ubuntu?
[21:22] <bb> hi all
[21:23] <alruin> http://askubuntu.com/questions/72492/sound-muted-when-headphones-are-connected-in-11-10
[21:23] <edbian> Melissa2012, you get to use all 4Gb of your ram with 64 bit OS (windows or linux)
[21:23] <compitz> ironfoot495, now this was all I thoght of, i tried chrooting update-grub on the hd.
[21:23] <iceroot> edbian: there is no amd64 windows which have a good gui :)
[21:23] <Melissa2012> edbian: my HP laptop only came with the 32 bit W7, even though my laptop supports 64 bit.  HP reasons, not sure :(
[21:23] <ironfoot495> edbian: not always I've done this over a hundred time
[21:23] <mcc> so i mentioned this before.. i am trying to compile a program written by someone else which includes gdk headers
[21:23] <compitz> thx, guntbert
[21:23] <ironfoot495> compitz: you'll have to start over
[21:24] <Melissa2012> iceroot: I hear ya.  So are there any online games that can be played against others in Ubuntu, similar to Battlefield?
[21:24] <edbian> iceroot, huh? 32 and 64 bit windows has the same gui ?
[21:24] <compitz> ironfoot495:  what do you mean by that?
[21:24] <vouth> VCoolio, Seven_Six_Two: Thanks!
[21:24] <bb> i have one with 32 bits to although my system supports 64bits. you wont have as many compatibility problems
[21:24] <oCean> mcc: find documentation on the program you'r trying to compile, or contact the maintainers of that package
[21:24] <compitz> ironfoot495, reinstall?
[21:24] <Melissa2012> edbian: is there a big difference between running 32 or 64bit Ubuntu?  faster? smoother?
[21:24] <iceroot> Melissa2012: unreal tourmanet 2004 with onslaught mode
[21:24] <edbian> Melissa2012, weird that they would sell a laptop with 4Gb of ram and a 32 bit OS
[21:24] <ironfoot495> compitz: you're confusing yourself
[21:24] <Melissa2012> iceroot: are many people online playing it?
[21:24] <iceroot> edbian: i mean, windows xp was the last windows with a good gui and win xp is only offering 32bit
[21:24] <Melissa2012> edbian: thats HP for ya lol
[21:24] <edbian> Melissa2012, Technically it is more efficient in some cases.  But the biggest reason to use 64 bit is to use more than 3.2 Gb of ram
[21:24] <ironfoot495> compitz:  yes reinstall the proprietary driver first
[21:25] <compitz> ironfoot495:  i am confused, what do you mean by i had to start over
[21:25] <edbian> ironfoot495, excellent :)
[21:25] <mcc> i eventually determined that i had the gdk headers, but it was not finding them correctly... so I put the gdk header path into CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH. But then the gdk header files included other headers which also weren't found, leading me into this bifurcating tree of ubuntu headers, none of which were being included automatically... at this point I am up to a include path that looks like:
[21:25] <mcc> CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH=/usr/include/gtk-2.0:/usr/include/gio-unix-2.0:/usr/include/glib-2.0:/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/glib-2.0/include:/usr/include/cairo:/usr/include/pango-1.0:/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0/include
[21:25] <bb> win 7 gui is very good 32bit and 64bit are the same gui
[21:25] <iceroot> bb: you dont get what i wanted to say with that
[21:25] <ironfoot495> compitz: then talk to me when it is done.
[21:25] <compitz> ironfoot495:  how do I do that from live CD? cant boot normal system....
[21:25] <edbian> iceroot, aaah :)  well that's opinion
[21:25] <oCean> mcc: this channel cannot provide support for software which is not in our official repositories
[21:25] <iceroot> edbian: opinion like "unity is usabke"
[21:25] <mcc> ...and I am still getting strange headers not found... it seems like I must be missing something. Is there a "standard" way to include everything needed for gdk?
[21:26] <iceroot> usable
[21:26] <bb> yah that might be true
[21:26] <jost_> n
[21:26] <Seveas> mcc, this is why pkg-config was invented
[21:26] <Melissa2012> edbian: if HP was thinking, they would know they should have preinstalled 64bit W7 seeing it comes with 4GB Ram.  I guess HP are a bunch of headless chickens? hehe
[21:26] <ironfoot495> compitz: do you have the option of down loading it?
[21:27] <compitz> ironfoot495: , i guess, i have internet connection...
[21:27] <mcc> ocean: okay... well, the program in question, the maintainer basically disappeared into the ether, so let's just pretend i'm the maintainer. i have a program where i want to include gdk headers, but when i naively include gdk/gdkx.h the built in ubuntu gdk header includes lots of other things that i don't know how to find...
[21:27] <guntbert> mcc: not that I can help, but are you actually talking about gtk (instead of gdk)?
[21:27] <mcc> seveas: hm ok so i should be using pkg-config for this?
[21:27] <edbian> Melissa2012, If I were you I wouldn't think it was very funny.  They sold you .8Gb of ram that you can't use with your OS!
[21:27] <benbloom> if you have dual core processors and a 32 bit machine you can run 4*1G ram chips right edbian, Melissa2012?
[21:27] <ironfoot495> compitz: if you do  that and install that way!!
[21:28] <daysahead5> how do you use sshfs?
[21:28] <compitz> ironfoot495:  i dont see a possible how-to-do-this
[21:28] <iceroot> benbloom: or 1x4gb ram chip or 2x 2 gb ram chip
[21:28] <mcc> guntbert: difficult to say. i think gdk is all that is necessary because we're just tryign to open a window
[21:28] <mcc> and draw opengl in it
[21:28] <benbloom> and with a dual core 64b machine it's 4*2gig? i was
[21:28] <edbian> benbloom, iceroot i've never heard this before.  Why does this work?
[21:28] <iceroot> benbloom: no
[21:28] <Seveas> mcc, generally you use that as CFLAGS=$(pkg-config --cflags gtk+-2.0) and LDFLAGS=$(pkg-config --libs gtk+-2.0)
[21:28] <subman> How to install a .deb file with apt-get from a local directory?
[21:28] <guntbert> mcc: ok, please ignore  me then ....
[21:28] <iceroot> benbloom: 32bit supports 4gb memory, doesnt matter how big a ram-chip is
[21:28] <mcc> guntbert, no, it' shelpful, thanks...
[21:28] <yeehaw> subman: dpkg -i file.dep
[21:28] <Seveas> mcc, but "fixing insane build systems" goes quite beyond the scope of #ubuntu :)
[21:29] <iceroot> benbloom: 64bit supports more then 4gb memory (also doesnt matter how big a ram chip is)
[21:29] <benbloom> ok and 64b supports up to 8?
[21:29] <mcc> seveas: oh, that worked beautfiully, thanks
[21:29] <yeehaw> subman: sorry, I meant: Sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[21:29] <ironfoot495> when you get on line download ubuntu 10.04 either desktop or server ubuntu server10.04.3
[21:29] <iceroot> benbloom: and it has nothing to do with the amount of cpu cores
[21:29] <mcc> or, well, it looks like it worked beautifully, i'll test :P
[21:29] <Seveas> iceroot, 32 bit with PAE too :)
[21:29] <iceroot> Seveas: PAE is not 32bit
[21:29] <Seveas> Linux lightning 3.2.0-7-generic-pae #13-Ubuntu SMP Sat Dec 24 20:09:18 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[21:29] <Seveas> my uname begs to differ
[21:29] <Edward2> Hello. When I click on Sound Settings -> Input and try to change the Connector to Analog Microphone, it resets itself to Analog Line-In. Why does it do that?
[21:29] <iceroot> Seveas: and pae is bad
[21:29] <subman> yeehaw, Thanks, I understood the sudo portion.  Just not the dpkg command.  Trying it now.
[21:30] <benbloom> thanks for the info iceroot.
[21:30] <BluesKaj> subman, use the dpkg -i command in terminal in the package dir
[21:30] <mcc> seveas: well, as i alluded earlier, i'm actually working on a fork of this library at this point, so the question is more like "help me fix my insane build system" :(
[21:30] <iceroot> Seveas: http://www.realworldtech.com/forums/index.cfm?action=detail&id=78966&threadid=78766&roomid=2
[21:30] <ironfoot495> if you install the server use xubuntu-desktop or apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[21:30] <compitz> ironfoot495:  as far as i can see i cant install sth. on installed system, when i dont have a screen there, and when Im using the lucid live cd at the momnet, is ther e a way?
[21:30] <edbian> the PAE kernel allows 32 bit hardware to address more than 3.2Gb of ram
[21:30] <Seveas> iceroot, don't trust torvalds blindly.
[21:30] <ironfoot495> compitz: talking to you.
[21:31] <yeehaw> Edward2: What happens if you connect the microphone to the line in port?
[21:31] <iceroot> edbian: and pae is using 36bit cpu extention
[21:31] <edbian> cool!
[21:31]  * edbian never knew that
[21:31] <iceroot> Seveas: what is wrong about the text?
[21:31] <yeehaw> Edward2: Probably won't work, but when I expiremented with osx86 ports were mixed up often
[21:31] <ironfoot495> compitz: the other way is to go to some else and download it or find a smaller screen to take care of that.
[21:31] <iceroot> Seveas: especially the "virtual memory section"
[21:31] <voan_> hi
[21:32] <ironfoot495> what size screen do you have?
[21:32] <compitz> ironfoot495: this is a maze for me, does this mean a reinstall of lucid?
[21:32] <Melissa2012> edbian: It came with 4GB ram
[21:32] <iceroot> Seveas: if your cpu supports amd64 there is no single reason to use 32bit or pae
[21:32] <edbian> Melissa2012, yeah, so?  (I know that, you already told me that)
[21:32] <Melissa2012> edbian: yeah I hear ya
[21:32] <edbian> :)
[21:32] <dankest> Is there any way to recover deleted data?
[21:32] <ironfoot495> yes because you will just keep going in circles.
[21:32] <iceroot> dankest: your backup
[21:32] <ironfoot495> been there done that.
[21:33] <dankest> iceroot: not an option
[21:33] <Seveas> iceroot, crappy proprietary 32-bot only software
[21:33] <guntbert> !who | ironfoot495
[21:33] <Melissa2012> benbloom: here is my laptop: http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0006-2102681/computers-and-it-equipment/hp-pavilion-dv6-2111tx-15-6-hd-c-i5-520m-4gb-640gb-nvidia-gt230m
[21:33] <iceroot> dankest: then learn to use backups in the future
[21:33] <dankest> iceroot: thanks for the sage advice
[21:33] <iceroot> dankest: which is a good option
[21:33] <Seveas> that's my reason to have an 8-gb 32-bit box
[21:33] <dankest> iceroot: it is
[21:33] <ironfoot495> compitz: just calm down and I promise I can help you if you follow my instructions
[21:33] <iceroot> !recover | dankest
[21:33] <Melissa2012> will Ubuntu have the proper nvidia-gt230m video drivers?
[21:33] <compitz> ironfoot495: so you solved your problem by reintalling? this was somethign I wanted to avoid(, please type my name)
[21:33] <dankest> iceroot: thanks, I appreciate it
[21:34] <edbian> !blank-screen
[21:34] <compitz> ironfoot495: screen size is 19'
[21:34] <Melissa2012> iceroot: 32 bit doesnt support 4GB Ram I was told, only up to 3.2
[21:34] <ironfoot495> compitz: yes because right now you dont have a screen right so you have to find a way to get back on line than we as a family of ubuntu can help you
[21:34] <iceroot> Melissa2012: 32bit supports 4gb memory
[21:34] <edbian> Melissa2012, that is true (unless you use the PAE kernel in linux)
[21:34] <compitz> ironfoot495: thats nice of you thx
[21:35] <edbian> iceroot, proof please?
[21:35] <Melissa2012> benbloom: Mine has Intel Core i5-520M ((Dual Core) 2.40GHz/3MB L3 Cache/2.5GT/s DMI)
[21:35] <Sidewinder1> dankest, I believe there's something like "Testdisk", that might help.
[21:35] <iceroot> Melissa2012: which includes your vga memory and some other pci-adress-bus-things
[21:35] <voan_> guys
[21:35] <Edward2> yeehaw: Didn't get anything.
[21:35]  * Cinober is now auto-away after 15m idle
[21:35] <voan_> can i ask something ?
[21:35] <iceroot> edbian: logic is a good proof :)
[21:35] <oCean> Cinober: please disable your auto away script
[21:35] <edbian> iceroot, show your logic then
[21:35] <dankest> Sidewinder1: thanks
[21:35] <iceroot> edbian: 4gm memory != 4g ram
[21:35] <Sidewinder1> :D
[21:35] <ironfoot495> compitz:  if that is all you have I suggest that you find a way to download ubuntu 10.04 and you will be alright.
[21:35] <guntbert> voan_: if it is ubuntu support related of course
[21:35] <iceroot> edbian:  which includes your vga memory and some other pci-adress-bus-things
[21:35] <Melissa2012> iceroot: I was told that the benefit of using 64bit Ubuntu was that it can use all of my 4GB ram and thart 32bit only uses 3.2Gb ram max.  Are you saying thats not true?
[21:36] <yeehaw> Edward2: Try running: alsamixer
[21:36] <vouth> Ha! GNUstep, Wine, Plasma widgets, and Dolphin . . . all inside GNOME! Screenshot as proof: https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B0bE2U3xkWwCZTYzNzQ1NzctZTdlNy00ZGY1LWFjYWQtN2NkMzk0YThlMDNh&hl=en_US
[21:36] <iceroot> edbian: so 32bit can adress 4gb (easy mathematic logic)
[21:36] <benbloom> yes Melissa2012. it's a nice 64bit machine. you get ubuntu64b on that baby, you'll never look back
[21:36] <edbian> ahhh
[21:36] <yeehaw> Edward2: Here you can maybe unmute your mic input
[21:36] <edbian> but usually we have 800 Mb of reserved memory for video cards and stuff
[21:36] <compitz> ironfoot495: i am online using my usual screen, i also have a live cd 10.4, but i dont wanna reinstall
[21:36]  * edbian gets it
[21:36] <mcc> seveas: your pkg-config line fixed everything, it compiles now. uhh... i'll find out in a minute if it links :)
[21:36] <yeehaw> if it says MM its muted and with the M-key you can unmute it. Else you might be able to up the volume with the arrow keys
[21:36] <edbian> Melissa2012, you cannot support more than 4Gb of memory with 32 bit.  4Gb is the limit
[21:36] <voan_> i have old laptop and would like to use as picture frame
 Melissa2012: 32bit supports 4gb memory  <--- can someone confirm this please?  because I was told 32bit Ubuntu or 32 bit Windows cannot use the full 4GB ram
[21:36] <iceroot> Melissa2012: 32bit supports 4gb memory (vga and other things included) amd64 can adress more then 4gb memory (vga and other things included)
[21:36] <guntbert> vouth: don't advertise here
[21:37] <iceroot> Melissa2012: i told you why it is not 4gb
[21:37] <voan_> which version of linus should i install on my old laptop !
[21:37] <daysahead5> what's the cap on 64 bit?
[21:37] <Melissa2012> so if thats the case, then why do I need the 64bit Ubuntu seeing I only have 4GB ram?
[21:37] <iceroot> Melissa2012: because there is also the vga memory includes and other adress-things
[21:37] <voan_> how is about small linux
[21:37] <vouth> guntbert: I didn't know that chuckling about my personal Ubuntu hacks was advertising
[21:37] <edbian> daysahead5, theoretical or real practical limit?
[21:37] <iceroot> Melissa2012: ...
[21:37] <voan_> its only 50 mb
[21:37] <daysahead5> both :)
[21:37] <ironfoot495> I hav'nt use the live cd so Iwon't tell you hat to do there but I got my best results using an .iso
[21:37] <iceroot> Melissa2012: you have 4gb ram and maybe 512mb vga ram
[21:37] <Melissa2012> iceroot: so should I install 64bit Ubuntu or 32bit?
[21:37] <Melissa2012> iceroot: nVIDIA GeForce GT 230M (1GB dedicated)
[21:37] <iceroot> Melissa2012: which means 32bit will adress 3.5gb ram and 512mb vga ram
[21:38] <Edward2> yeehaw: All is unmuted. Volume full.
[21:38] <edbian> daysahead5, theory
[21:38] <Guest16486> Memory
[21:38] <Guest16486> A 32-bit computer has a word size of 32 bits, this limits the memory theoretically to 4GB. This barrier has been extended through the use of 'Physical Address Extension' (or PAE) which increases the limit to 64GB although the memory access above 4GB will be slightly slower. (Ref Ubuntu website)
[21:38] <iceroot> Melissa2012: you should always install amd64 if the cpu suports it
[21:38] <edbian> daysahead5, theory: 16 exa-bytes
[21:38] <mcc> ok it linked too
[21:38] <guntbert> vouth: this channel is for support only - it might be a laugh in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:38] <Melissa2012> iceroot: ok
[21:38] <daysahead5> so how do people have 24 gb machines?
[21:38] <voan_> @iceroot
[21:38] <iceroot> daysahead5: with amd64
[21:38] <AlanBell> Melissa2012: both will work fine, if I were you I would go for 64 bit
[21:38] <edbian> daysahead5, with 64 bit arch which supports up to 16 exa-bytes of memory
[21:38] <daysahead5> ooh you said exa bytes woah haha
[21:38] <Melissa2012> iceroot: but seeing I only have 4GB ram, there will be no gains or benefit for me to install Ubuntu 64bit, over the 32bit Ubuntu, right?
[21:38] <skegeek> The monitor light turning orange after the screen has gone black means the system stopped sending the video output correct?
[21:39] <edbian> yeah
[21:39] <edbian> that's a lot
[21:39] <ironfoot495> and I've done over and over for a couple of years, when ever something went wrong of course.
[21:39] <yeehaw> Edward2: hmm.. I'm afraid I do not know then. The rest of you sound does work? You're sure your mic is attached right, on? What application are you using with it? Can you see ith there?
[21:39] <daysahead5> that's outrageous
[21:39] <edbian> Melissa2012, very little difference, that's right
[21:39] <iceroot> Melissa2012: again (and the last time) 32bit can adress 4gb memoery (not ram!!!!!!) memory = ram + vga
[21:39] <edbian> daysahead5, but a processor has not been built that allows that much memory yet (ref wikipedia)
[21:39] <Melissa2012> AlanBell: but I only have 4GB ram, so installing the 64bit Ubuntu over 32bit apparently wont make a difference
[21:39] <qwebirc45852> hello. i am trying to install ubuntu on nokia booklet 3G but it seems that the intel GMA500 is causing problems, as i can't seem to get to the GUI of the installer. Any ideas how to solve this?
[21:39] <Melissa2012> iceroot: ok, im confused thats all :)
[21:40] <ironfoot495> compitz: ok happy installing.
[21:40] <compitz> ironfoot495:  please type name so I can see it, but the .iso is the same as cd, i guess? well then as I said, i dont wanna reinstall
[21:40] <vouth> guntbert: ahh, ok. I kind of figured this channel was for everything regarding Ubuntu. Maybe I should have looked at the topic first :-P
[21:40] <CarlFK> Melissa2012: you have more than 4.
[21:40] <Edward2> yeehaw: I just tested with Audacity, got options to choose my input so I can record sound. Just that Skype follows "system defaults" which keeps reverting to Analog Line-In.
[21:40] <edbian> Melissa2012, you have 4Gb of ram and some amount of ram on your video card
[21:40] <ironfoot495> compitz: ok that better?
[21:40] <Melissa2012> CarlFK: nVIDIA GeForce GT 230M (1GB dedicated)
[21:40] <Melissa2012> .  Does that mean my video card has 1GB ram?
[21:40] <edbian> Melissa2012, so you have >4Gb of memory total.
[21:40] <edbian> Melissa2012, yes
[21:40] <Melissa2012> k
[21:41] <Melissa2012> so i have 5GB ram in total, cool ;-)
[21:41] <edbian> Melissa2012, what is the output of free -m   or free -g ?
[21:41] <ChrisJC> Anyone able to answer a couple easy question relating to Aircrack-ng in Ubuntu 11.10 with a broadcom wireless card. Not fishing for the answers, just to be pointed in a proper direction. Would be very grateful.
[21:41] <yeehaw> Edward2: Ok, so it's not a soundcard or driver problem that's clear:P. Doesn't skype have options in the program self where you can select the default, or does that keep reverting too
[21:41] <iceroot> Melissa2012: that means from the 4gb 32bit can adress 1gb is going to the vga, so your 32bit system can adress 3gb ram
[21:41] <edbian> Melissa2012, you have 5Gb of memory (but this is just vocab now)
[21:41] <ironfoot495> compitz: sometimes you save more time redoing than sitting there in a daze.
[21:41] <benbloom> is there a way to find out my processor's model number on the CLI?
[21:41] <Melissa2012> edbian: ive not installed ubuntu yet, I just downloaded the 64bit Ubuntu now.  Installing it later today :)
[21:41] <Guest16486> Melissa2012: Don't want to crash this thread but there is some info here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit
[21:41] <iceroot> benbloom: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[21:41] <ironfoot495> just get the iso and do it ok.
[21:41] <edbian> Melissa2012, ahh, what are you waiting for?!?!
[21:42] <Melissa2012> edbian: i was chatting lol
[21:42] <Melissa2012> :-)
[21:42] <edbian> Melissa2012, :)
[21:42] <oCean> benbloom: try sudo lshw -C cpu
[21:42] <Melissa2012> Guest16486: thanks
[21:42] <Melissa2012> bbl :)
[21:43] <Edward2> yeehaw: Only options are "PulseAudio server (local)", and an info: "It appears your system has PulseAudio running: to change sound settings you need to use your Desktop Manager volume control or PulseAudio volume control."
[21:43] <samsul> !ebox
[21:43] <iceroot> Edward2: the package "pavucontrol" is nice for that
[21:44] <ironfoot495> compitz: got some rat killing to do of my bb.
[21:44] <compitz> ironfoot, i dont see a way to do that, i got the iso on the cd, though
[21:44] <oilman> best torrent client with a cute webinterface? (been looking at torrentflux, but I kinda want to avoid mysql)
[21:44] <kcj> How do I stop my system from shutting down when my battery is apparently "critical"?
[21:44] <ironfoot495> comp can you see the screen?
[21:44] <guntbert> !best | oilman
[21:44] <edbian> kcj, charge your battery
[21:44] <ironfoot495> compitz: can you see the screen?
[21:44] <compitz> ironfoot495: bb? what screen do you mean?
[21:45] <yeehaw> Edward2: hmm.. I would try what iceroot said. I've got no clue about PulseAudio really
[21:45] <kcj> edbian, The battery is fine.
[21:45] <Edward2> iceroot: Downloaded, opening, selecting Port from Analog Line-In to Analog Microphone, it just reset itself to Analog Line-In.
[21:45] <edbian> kcj, in the power settings, search for 'power' in the dash
[21:45] <ironfoot495> compitz: you said that you could not see the screen? but if you have the iso go ahead and run it.
[21:45] <kcj> edbian, I'm using gnome classic.
[21:46] <edbian> kcj, I don't remember.  It's in the gui somewhere.  System -> Admin -> power*
[21:46] <compitz> ironfoot495: but then i will be reinstalling, right?=
[21:46] <benbloom> so if I have an AMD Athlon 64 X2 processor. I should be able to put 4x2G ram chips in it?
[21:46] <ironfoot495> yes
[21:46] <compitz> ironfoot495:  no other possibles way here, and to edbian?
[21:46] <edbian> benbloom, yep  (make sure you're running 64 bit OS as well(
[21:46] <ironfoot495> compitz: yes that will give you a better chance in getting things going.
[21:46] <Duker> I seem unable to prevent my java from going to sleep.  As soon as my minecraft server comes up, java sleeps.  Any way I can fix this?
[21:46] <benbloom> sure am edbian
[21:46] <Ethern0t> hallo
[21:46] <edbian> compitz, follow ironfoot495's advice
[21:47] <kcj> edbian, I know where it is. There is no "do nothing" option for when the battery is critical.
[21:47] <edbian> kcj, lemme look
[21:47] <compitz> edbian ironfoot495 , thats what i wanted to avoid, i think i need to backup stuff first, can I avoid at alll, a reinstall?
[21:47] <ironfoot495> compitz: bb:
[21:47] <edbian> kcj, mmm,  apparently not.  I'm not sure.  I could start googling
[21:48] <oilman> ubottu: ait. :) thanks for the help anyhow
[21:48] <edbian> compitz, boot, press shift during boot, launch recovery mode, purge nouveau and install nvidia-96
[21:48] <compitz> ironfoot495: what doues "bb" mean?
[21:48] <edbian> compitz, then you should be back where you started
[21:48] <guntbert> kcj: if the battery reports "critical" then you should look into the cause
[21:49] <ironfoot495> compitz: I'll be back!
[21:49] <benbloom> sorry to go on with this edbian, but i are there no other HW considerations that could limit my max
[21:49] <skegeek> repost: The monitor light turning orange after the screen has gone black means the system stopped sending the video output correct?
[21:49] <edbian> benbloom, none
[21:49] <benbloom> http://www.chiplist.com/AMD_Athlon_64_X2_Dual_Core_processor_Windsor_2MB_Rev_F/tree3f-subsection--2228-/ makes me think otherwise
[21:49] <hwit> hi. I installed git-core from https://launchpad.net/~git-core/+archive/ppa and I want to use gitosis with it. When I try to install gitosis via apt I get a broken package error. Is there a gitosis PPA that works with the current git-core? I'm on 10.04.3 LTS.
[21:49] <edbian> benbloom, you're talking about what?  8Gb of ram?  That's not an issue, my friend has 24Gb
[21:49] <kcj> guntbert, If the battery was actually critical the battery light would be flashing.
[21:50] <benbloom> sorry. that was all supposed to be one line. thanks again edbian
[21:50] <edbian> Ben64, reading your link
[21:50] <compitz> edbian, well i started there two days before yesterday, yes, a recovery-mode would be great, but how can I use it??
[21:50] <compitz> ironfoot495: thx
[21:50] <edbian> compitz, press shift during  boot (before you see anything 'ubuntu' related)
[21:50] <compitz> edbian, do you mean on the bios screen?
[21:50] <benbloom> edbian: it was under Architecture: 128 bit (dual-channel), 200/400/800 MHz, DDR2-800 memory controller: max. 8 x 512 Mbyte = 4 Gbyte (4 x 1 Gbyte double-sided PC2-6400 memory module).
[21:51] <edbian> Ben64, mmm, I see that now
[21:51] <guntbert> kcj: ack, but it still seems to report that status - it might be a dirty contact....
[21:51] <edbian> benbloom, I see that now
[21:51] <ChrisJC> Anyone able to answer a couple easy question relating to Aircrack-ng in Ubuntu 11.10 with a broadcom wireless card. Not fishing for the answers, just to be pointed in a proper direction. Would be very grateful.
[21:51] <edbian> compitz, shortly after bios
[21:51] <ironfoot495> compitz: I can see a response to me even when I'm some where else so just do what you got to do I will monitor ok.
[21:51] <kcj> guntbert, The hardware is fine.
[21:51] <edbian> compitz, _not_ the bios but right after it
[21:52] <edbian> benbloom, curious, I'm not sure why they put that or what the point of a 64 bit processor is if it can't address more than 4Gb
[21:52] <ironfoot495> compitz:  a lot of good people have helped me a long the way so I'm glad to be able to give back.
[21:52] <scarper_> #jaquerespeis
[21:52] <scarper_> sorry
[21:52] <edbian> benbloom, perhaps they made a mistake on the site and those stats are for a different 32 bit proc
[21:52] <benbloom> i know right?
[21:52] <edbian> benbloom, My advice is to try the 64 bit Ubuntu with all your ram
[21:52] <compitz> edbian, right after bios, it will ask me for my luks-pass so if i press a botton itll be a part of my luks pass
[21:53] <edbian> benbloom, If you haven't bought the proc / ram contact the company and have them clairfy
[21:53] <guntbert> kcj: I hear you - but you might still want to look for the reason :)
[21:53] <edbian> cla-fairy
[21:53] <edbian> compitz, what is luks-pass ?
[21:53] <benbloom> thanks for the time. I've had strange problems with RAM in this pc before
[21:53] <kcj> guntbert, :/
[21:53] <edbian> benbloom, sure! :)
[21:53] <pooltable> how to run android on linux???
[21:53] <compitz> edbian, im running an encrypted system, well usually, when not on live-cd
[21:53] <theadmin> pooltable: lolwut. Not possible, Android is a separate operating system.
[21:54] <pooltable> what about a VM?
[21:54] <compitz> edbian luks pass is the password for mounting system-hd
[21:54] <kcj> guntbert, I just want it to stop forcing a shut down if the battery is apparently critical.
[21:54] <theadmin> pooltable: That might be, search for Android ports to PCs and run those in a VM.
[21:55] <pavel_GS> hello!
[21:55] <Edward2> iceroot: When selecting Port from Analog Line-In to Analog Microphone in pavucontrol, it just reset itself to Analog Line-In.
[21:55] <fogdart> hi there
[21:55] <pooltable> thanks theadmin
[21:55] <edbian> compitz, right after the luks pass then
[21:55] <pavel_GS> I'm having trouble with my laptop webcam who doesn't seems willing to work
[21:55] <fogdart> anyone knows how to disable .trash folder creation in ubuntu ?
[21:55] <pavel_GS> *seem
[21:55] <edbian> compitz, press shift like a mad-man all over the place, trying different times until you get the grub menu
[21:56] <guntbert> kcj: understandable, as a dirty hack you could try to unload the acpi-module??
[21:56] <Duker> I am being denied perimssion to increase the priority of a process as admin, is there a better way to prevent a process from ever going to sleep?
[21:56] <kcj> heh
[21:56] <Duker> I seem unable to prevent my java from sleeping while its running
[21:56] <skegeek> I don't suppose anyone is using a Toshiba Satellite laptop??
[21:56] <compitz> edbian, then all I see is terminal,that tells me its unlocking the hd but icant type, 2 seconds later blck screen (shut off)
[21:56] <guntbert> compitz: use the left <shift>
[21:56] <yeehaw> edbian: Hehe, I always do that while accessing bios or grub or verbose or something :p
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[21:56] <FloodBot1> ZuruZ: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:56] <compitz> guntbert, never tried the right shift
[21:57] <edbian> compitz, go crazy with shift at all different times
[21:57] <compitz> edbian, well the before or after pass?
[21:57] <fogdart> hi there - ill repeat my question - how to disable the recyclebin/trashcan -folder creation in ubuntu ?
[21:57] <compitz> edbian, well theN* before or after pass?
[21:57] <edbian> compitz, try both!
[21:58] <edbian> com641, but I think after
[21:58] <pavel_GS> does anyone knows how to fix my samsung n210 cam?
[21:58] <edbian> compitz, but I think after.  Also I have to go now
[21:58] <Duker> Any way to stop a process from sleeping?
[21:58] <kcj> guntbert, I want a permanent solution.
[21:58] <pavel_GS> when I test it, it looks like in movies: white bar, yellow bar, cyan bar, green bar...
[21:58] <compitz> edbian, i think all that does is switching from picture to text, i cant type then
[21:59] <guntbert> kcj: I guess, but if that dirty hack works you can (temporarily) blacklist that module...
[21:59] <RHExcelion> I'm getting the strangest error
[22:00] <kcj> guntbert, Can I restart with noacpi?
[22:00] <RHExcelion> tzdata is failing to configure due to something about the date being invalid
[22:01] <guntbert> kcj: of course you can  --  I don't know if it will help - sorry
[22:01] <pavel_GS> well...
[22:02] <compitz> how do I launch ubuntu (lucid) in recovery mode???????????????????????
[22:03] <mucahit> hello is there anyone who can install ubuntu on macbook pro 8,1?
[22:03] <guntbert> compitz: from the grub menu :-)
[22:03] <RHExcelion> Does anyone have any ideas?
[22:04] <compitz> guntbert, which I get by pressing shift "like madman all over the place"?
[22:04] <zimbres> hi, would someone give some advices on how to install a driver for canon printer, and where to find them?
[22:04] <RHExcelion> date: invalid date 'Fri Dec 30 22:03:43 UTC 2011'
[22:04] <trixi> hey!
[22:04] <wrecksdart> howdy
[22:05] <guntbert> compitz: essentially yes, although preesing <shift> after the boot beep until the grub menu appears should suffice
[22:05] <compitz> RHExcellion, have you run an update lately, i think ther was one
[22:05] <benbloom> running kde with 2 monitors on a dual head card. often, when i drag a window from my right monitor into my left, it maximizes horizontally. where might i find this rule to disable it?
[22:05] <RHExcelion> Uh... what update?
[22:06] <mucahit> is there any solution to "(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" problem in macbook pro 8,1?
[22:06] <RHExcelion> This is a custom jaunty installation running on armel
[22:06] <jaequery> hey guys, how can i tell what type of HD i'm running? basically i want to verify if the server i'm on indeed is an SSD
[22:06] <compitz> guntbert: thanks, but I think about my luks-passphrase  screen that shows up 7 seconds after the BEEP
[22:06] <auronandace> !jaunty | RHExcelion
[22:06] <RHExcelion> I know
[22:07] <RHExcelion> I can't upgrade it
[22:07] <troulouliou_dev> hi as soon as i install proproetary driver on dell M1530 , nvidia 8M , gnome-shell and unity-3D fails to load , however gkxinfo report no rpoblem and nvidia drivers are used , any idea ?
[22:07] <trixi> terrible situation here. I have ubuntu 11.04 on usb and all of the sudden it gave me an error, that there are no sudoers files!!! What da?! Anyway, I've done some reading and it came out, that after upgrading kernel, this might happen.. Come on! So now, I fired up a live cd of old ubuntu, pluged in the 11from usb, and I'm looking a way of getting to the files I have on that system on usb. Any ideas how?
[22:07] <auronandace> RHExcelion: and we can't support it
[22:07] <compitz> RHExcelion: what distro are you using?
[22:07] <RHExcelion> Maybe you can't, but I'm sure there's someone out of the random 1431 other people on here who can help me
[22:08] <wrecksdart> Anyone know why apache2 won't follow symlinks even though I've got it set in httpd.conf? (wordpress refuses to save a file in the remote folder)
[22:08] <glebihan> RHExcelion, no because it is not supported here
[22:08] <guntbert> compitz: did you encrypt the whole installation?
[22:08] <wrecksdart> on Ubuntu 11.10
[22:08] <compitz> RHExcelion: well then. happy new year
[22:08] <compitz> guntbert, yes I did
[22:09] <guntbert> compitz: sorry, I have no experience with that
[22:10] <compitz> guntbert, well thx, GRUB menu doesnt show up no matter what I press, but it would be logical, if shows up after I enter my pass wouldnt it?
[22:10] <glebihan> wrecksdart, did you check permissions ?
[22:11] <trixi> so, anyone? please help.
[22:11] <guntbert> compitz: probably
[22:11] <wrecksdart> gleb: oy vey--I feel like I've been through the permissions ringer
[22:11] <wrecksdart> It's a default install of WP, but I'm trying to locate the uploads folder to another disk
[22:11] <wrecksdart> www-data has perms over the whole thing
[22:12] <compitz> guntbert, if i got to this GRUB menu I nver see, can I intall the driver then, so its permanent, therorhtically?
[22:12] <glebihan> wrecksdart, anything in apache's log file ?
[22:12] <wrecksdart> gleb: I'll check...
[22:13] <guntbert> compitz: I have lost track of your real issue - sorry
[22:13] <pooltable> just went to 11.10 with xfce inter face
[22:13] <compitz> guntbert, black screen after nvdia driver removal on startup
[22:15] <compitz> fdyb
[22:15] <compitz> sorry..
[22:16] <guntbert> compitz: my last nvidia system is gone, I fixed several issues after removal via the recovery system - why can't you enter the luks-password and get to the grub-menu?
[22:17] <compitz> guntbert: well if a pressed a bottom it would switch from loading picture to text version, no way to type there, seconds later black screen
[22:17] <trixi> my ubuntu installed on usb crashed. Can I get my files back from it?
[22:17] <Jordan_U> compitz: What happens currently when you boot the computer while holding shift?
[22:17] <compitz> guntbert, well maybe this is a keyboard issue, im thinking now, i use german dead grave acute...
[22:18] <wrecksdart> gleb: not really.  WP's web interface is the most verbose, telling me I can't create the directory as asking if the parent dir is writeable
[22:18] <ChrisJC> Anyone able to answer a couple easy question relating to Aircrack-ng in Ubuntu 11.10 with a broadcom wireless card. Not fishing for the answers, just to be pointed in a proper direction. Would be very grateful.
[22:18] <guntbert> compitz: in that case use a live CD
[22:18] <compitz> Jordan_U: it would switch from loading picture to text version, no way to type there, seconds later black screen
[22:18] <Jordan_U> compitz: What do you mean by "loading picture"?
[22:19] <trixi> ChrisJC ask.
[22:19] <wrecksdart> other than that, the error logs are clean (mod_deflate.c registers the compression of the image file, but that's about it)
[22:19] <compitz> Jordan_U:  ubuntu, and 5 or six blinking balls under it
[22:19] <Jordan_U> compitz: Are you sure that your keyboard works at all?
[22:20] <Duker> Any reason why a process that i dont want to sleep insists on sleeping?
[22:20] <owenll> ChrisJC: #aircrack-ng
[22:20] <Duker> And why I cant change a process' priority in sys monitor
[22:20] <compitz> guntbert, pressing shift in live cd will be able to load grub menu, so i can boot the recovery mode from my encryted hd? that would be nice then...
[22:21] <glebihan> wrecksdart, really sounds like permissions issues. Could you paste the exact message that WP gives you ?
[22:21] <compitz> Jordan_U:  as you can see Im typing .-)
[22:21] <trixi> ChrisJC when it comes to broadcome cards, they usually work fine, but don't support the injection mode.
[22:21] <Jordan_U> compitz: You're currently working from the same machine?
[22:21] <compitz> Jordan_U: would that change something?
[22:22] <guntbert> compitz: no, but you would be able to edit grub settings,...
[22:22] <Edward2> Ok, how about another approach. What file does the Sound Settings save to in Ubuntu 11.10? Hoping to change the Connector from there.
[22:22] <wrecksdart> glebihan: Sorry for the error dump: Item_0001.jpg” has failed to upload due to an error
[22:22] <wrecksdart> Unable to create directory /var/www/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/12. Is its parent directory writable by the server?
[22:23] <compitz> guntbert , so what am I editing then, exactly?
[22:23] <wrecksdart> glebihan: the "uploads" dir is the symlink over to the other disk
[22:23] <compitz> Jordan_U:  yes I am working there
[22:23] <glebihan> wrecksdart, and the 2011 folder already exists ?
[22:23] <wrecksdart> glebihan: It does
[22:24] <hwit> hi. is there a good guide on how to upgrade server 10.04 LTS to the current (non LTS) version?
[22:24] <Jordan_U> compitz: Unless you've changed your grub settings, grub's menu should show if shift is being held when grub loads. If that's not happening then grub isn't being told by the BIOS that the shift key is pressed. That could either happen because your keyboard isn't working (which is not the case) or your BIOS doesn't support your keyboard (so the follow up question is can you use your keyboard in BIOS menus before grub loads)?
[22:24] <wrecksdart> glebihan: I suppose I could delete it and  see if the server will create it on it's own
[22:24] <trixi> guys, I'm sorry about repeating myself, but I'm running out of time.
[22:24] <glebihan> wrecksdart, could try, though I don't think it would help
[22:24] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | hwit
[22:24] <trixi> Is there any way, to get ny files back from the system installed on usb?
[22:25] <trixi> please help!
[22:25] <compitz> Jordan_U: , yes i can enter the bios menu and edit stuff there, for example
[22:25] <guntbert> compitz: you *can* edit everything from the live CD (you will need to mount your HD and then maybe to chroot.....) but thats today beyond my ability ...
[22:25] <Jordan_U> trixi: Most likely, yes. You should be able to just boot from another LiveUSB/CD, mount the USB, and access your files. Though if you've been using "persistance" I don't know off hand how to mount that properly via aufs.
[22:26] <compitz> guntbert:  what would you edit
[22:26] <CCReggioCal> azz
[22:26] <compitz> guntbert: in the grub settings?
[22:26] <trixi> Jordan_U via aufs? yes, it's been persistant.
[22:26] <hwit> Jordan_U: thanks
[22:26] <Jordan_U> compitz: And you've been holding shift from the moment you turn on the computer (you can even start holding shift before you turn the computer on, if your BIOS doesn't complain about a "stuck key" like they did in decades past).
[22:26] <Jordan_U> ?
[22:27] <owenll> m
[22:27] <guntbert> compitz: please stay with Jordan_U , he will help better
[22:27] <wrecksdart> glebihan: the symlinked directory has 755 perms (www-data as owner) as does the folder structure under it
[22:27] <compitz> Jordan_U:  ill try that, does GRUB menu load then and i can start the recovery mode?
[22:27] <glebihan> wrecksdart, in the settings, you have a "Store uploads in this folder" option under "miscellaneous". What's the value of that setting ?
[22:28] <compitz> guntbert , your help has been highly appreciated thx.
[22:28] <guntbert> compitz: Good luck :-)
[22:28] <Kiten> periodically my sound will stop working and i'll have to switch to a tty and back to tty7 to get my sound back, anyone have any idea whats going on ?
[22:28] <Jordan_U> compitz: Correct. And remember that you need to hold shift. If anyone told you that you're supposed to press and release it repeatedly they were mistaken.
[22:28] <compitz> guntbert: THX
[22:28] <wrecksdart> glebihan: it's blank
[22:29] <compitz> Jordan_U:  thanks, will you be on lateron?
[22:29] <glebihan> wrecksdart, try setting it to wp-content/uploads/
[22:29] <trixi> Jordan_U via aufs? yes, it's been persistant. what about fdisk?
[22:30] <Jordan_U> compitz: I don't know.
[22:30] <compitz> Jordan_U:  well then thx for helping and a happy and healthy next year to you
[22:31] <Jordan_U> compitz: You're welcome, and same to you :)
[22:31] <compitz> Jordan_U: thx
[22:32] <wrecksdart> glebihan: Nope
[22:33] <wrecksdart> glebihan: but if I get rid of the symlink so it's pointing to the wp-content/uploads folder on the local disk, it works fine
[22:33] <trixi> Jordan_U aufs?
[22:33] <glebihan> wrecksdart, are the permissions on /var/www/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/ the same as on /var/www/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/
[22:33] <glebihan> ?
[22:34] <reesk> how do i remove lamp from ubuntu
[22:34] <munzxttt> hi! ... is it possible to update the 'ubuntu software center'  in 10.04 ?!
[22:34] <Jordan_U> trixi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_mount
[22:35] <wrecksdart> glebihan: in this case, no.  wp-content/uploads is the symlink, and has 0777, where wp-content/uploads/2011 is the remote dir with 0755
[22:36] <trixi> Jordan_U so fdisk won't do?
[22:36] <munzxttt> hi! ... is it possible to update the 'ubuntu software center'  in 10.04 ?!
[22:36] <glebihan> wrecksdart, and both are owned by www-data ?
[22:36] <Enricodemedici> can I start Ubuntu Live on a macbook?
[22:37] <Kiten> muzxttt you can refresh the cache from terminal, sudo apt-get update (this refreshes the cache
[22:37] <Kiten> )
[22:37] <Jordan_U> trixi: A "persistant" Ubuntu root is the union of a read only filesystem (the squashfs found in the LiveCD), and a read-write filesystem (the ext4 "casper-rw" partition). You may be able to access all the files you've added by just mounting the casper-rw filesystem without making a union between it and the squashfs but I'm not sure.
[22:37] <Enricodemedici> from usb stick?
[22:37] <wrecksdart> glebihan: they both are owned by www-data
[22:38] <Jordan_U> Enricodemedici: Yes, but it's difficult. If possilbe, it's recommended to use an actual CD, specifically one burned from the -mac iso.
[22:38] <wrecksdart> glebihan: I've crowned the /var/www/wordpress dir recursively, in addition to the remote folder
[22:38] <munzxttt> Kiten : i am new to linux and i do run 11.04 in my laptop and just installed 10.04 and did not like how it looks actually i could not get the apps i wanted !!! so can i update it?!
[22:38] <Enricodemedici> @jordan ok! thx
[22:38] <wrecksdart> glebihan: *chowned
[22:38] <Jordan_U> Enricodemedici: You're welcome.
[22:39] <munzxttt> Kiten : i am new to linux and i do run 11.04 in my laptop and just installed 10.04 on my home pc and did not like how it looks actually i could not get the apps i wanted !!! so can i update it?! :
[22:39] <Kiten> munzxttt, you don't need to double post
[22:39] <Kiten> munzxttt, so you want to update 10.04 to 11.04 ?
[22:39] <karl-augustt> just explain me a fact , I installed a linux in OEM mode , and when I restart for the first time,  it just start again linux installation in normal mode, do someone have  an idea about that?
[22:40] <munzxttt> Kiten : sorry :0
[22:40] <munzxttt> Kiten : no! i just want to update the 'software center'!!!! is it possible?!
[22:40] <aBound> munzxttt, I don't think you can update the software center.
[22:40] <Kiten> uh well yes and no, you could change the repository that you use
[22:40] <Jordan_U> trixi: The first thing I would do would be to run "sudo blkid" (which gives more useful and easier to read information that "sudo fdisk -l"), figure out what device is the "casper-rw" partition is, then try mounting it. If I understand how aufs works, it should contain all of the files that you've added or changed while using the LiveUSB, and nothing else.
[22:41] <Kiten> but this isn't really supported and can break your installation
[22:41] <karl-augustt> just explain me a fact , I installed a linux in OEM mode , and when I restart for the first time,  it just start again linux installation in normal mode, do someone have  an idea about that?
[22:41] <karl-augustt> just explain me a fact , I installed a linux in OEM mode , and when I restart for the first time,  it just start again linux installation in normal mode, do someone have  an idea about that?
[22:41] <glebihan> wrecksdart, well I'm a bit out of ideas, I just ran a test here and symlinks don't seem to be an issue with apache itself, so it may be a WP bug if the permissions are correct
[22:41] <Resistance> !repeat | karl-augustt
[22:41] <munzxttt> Kiten : mmm ... i just want to get other users feedback and the ratings !
[22:41] <Kiten> ???
[22:42] <Kiten> you want to get feedback from particular installs ?
[22:42] <Kiten> * err packages
[22:42] <wrecksdart> glebihan: thanks for checking it out--I've had similar issues with gallery3 and I couldn't seem to sort that out, either.  httpd.conf has +FollowSymLinks as it's only option, so I'm pretty much lost, too
[22:42] <trixi> Jordan_U here's what I did: made dir casper in /mnt/ and tryed to mounte it. It said casper is not a block dev. try -o loop. Yes I tried that and it worked!
[22:42] <Jordan_U> karl-augustt: That's what's supposed to happen as far as I know. Though I've never done an OEM install I would expect that it would need to ask the user about things like what username and password they want to use on first boot.
[22:42] <trixi> I mean, so far, so good....
[22:43] <Kiten> i've not had a chance to look 11.04 over so i'm not sure what you guy's software center looks like
[22:43] <munzxttt> Kiten : yes along with the ratings which is not supported in the older version of the 'software center'
[22:43] <trixi> Jordan_U, thank you for your help!
[22:43] <Jordan_U> trixi: I don't understand what you actually did. Please pastebin the exact commands you ran and thier output.
[22:43] <Jordan_U> trixi: You're welcome.
[22:43] <glebihan> wrecksdart, did you try to make a simple php script that would just create that folder in order to test if you get an error also ?
[22:44] <Kiten> ahh well updating the software center isn't actually supported in other words you'd be better off updating to 11.04
[22:44] <zth> my flash lags and chops alot in fullscreen-mode in firefox. i'm using ubuntu 11.04 with propertairy ATI-drivers installed and proper gpu-acceleration. anyone got a clue?
[22:44] <munzxttt> Kiten : thanks for your help ... :)
[22:44] <munzxttt> Kiten : bye
[22:44] <Kiten> i mean its possible to do so but i have no idea what all is necessary to update it nor if the packages are packages a certain way
[22:44] <wrecksdart> glebihan: no clue how to do that, unfortunately--what command would I use?  <?php blah <php>
[22:45] <trixi> Jordan_U, there you go: mkdir /mnt/casper
[22:45] <trixi> root@ubuntu:/# mount /mnt/here/casper-rw /mnt/casper/
[22:45] <trixi> mount: /mnt/here/casper-rw is not a block device (maybe try `-o loop'?)
[22:45] <trixi> root@ubuntu:/# mount -o loop  /mnt/here/casper-rw /mnt/casper/
[22:45] <trixi> root@ubuntu:/# cd /mnt/casper/
[22:45] <trixi> root@ubuntu:/mnt/casper# ls
[22:45] <FloodBot1> trixi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:45] <trixi> bin   cdrom  home  lost+found  rofs  sbin  usr
[22:45] <Resistance> !pastebin | trixi
[22:45] <glebihan> wrecksdart, <?php mkdir("/var/www/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/12");?>
[22:45] <Kiten> trixi use pastie
[22:45] <Kiten> * pastie.org
[22:45] <Kiten> or pastebin.com or paste.ubuntu.com
[22:46] <glebihan> wrecksdart, save that in a test.php file at the root of your WP install and access that page to see if the folder gets created (and if it doesn't, this time you should have more infos in apache's logs)
[22:46] <wrecksdart> glebihan: great!  I'll try it...
[22:47] <karl-augustt> just explain me a fact , I installed a linux in OEM mode , and when I restart for the first time,  it just start again linux installation in normal mode, do someone have  an idea about that?
[22:48] <dfasdfgfagfd> a
[22:48] <wrecksdart> glebihan: mkdir(): Permission denied in /var/www/wordpress/test.php on line 1
[22:49] <nythrow> Hello guys. Could anyone advise me; what DE should I install for a person who has no idea about Linux?
[22:49] <wrecksdart> glebihan: php says perms?!?
[22:49] <iceroot> nythrow: any you want
[22:49] <Kiten> nythrow, uhh why not use ubuntu's default gnome ?
[22:49] <Jordan_U> karl-augustt: Did you see my message? What does the rest of the install process entail? I'm guessing that it's mostly asking the user's Timezone, username, password etc which can't be entered by the OEM.
[22:49] <glebihan> wrecksdart, so it's definitely a permission issue
[22:49] <iceroot> glebihan: does www-data have write-access?
[22:50] <nythrow> But wouldn't GNOME3 too difficult?
[22:50] <wrecksdart> iceroot: it should, yes
[22:50] <Kiten> nythrow, no
[22:50] <iceroot> wrecksdart: and also the symlink?
[22:50] <glebihan> iceroot, it should but apparently doesn't
[22:50] <iceroot> glebihan: then give write-permissions to it with chown
[22:50] <Kiten> nythrow, gnome3 should be very very easy to navigate
[22:51] <wrecksdart> iceroot: lrwxrwxrwx 1 www-data www-data   46 2011-12-29 22:48 uploads -> blah
[22:51] <glebihan> wrecksdart, does www-data have read and execute permissions on all folders above 2011/12 on the target drive ?
[22:51] <Edward2> nythrow: Try xubuntu. But doesn't really matter. It anyways needs alot of configuring to make it as "user friendly" as possible. :p
[22:51] <iceroot> nythrow: there is no DE which needs specific linux-know-how
[22:51] <nythrow> I will try gnome3.
[22:51] <Kiten> nythrow, what are you needing ? are you wanting to make applications ?
[22:51] <iceroot> wrecksdart: and what is the permission on blah?
[22:51] <wrecksdart> glebihan: not all folders.  I've got dir structure of /media/haus1/website_assets/wordpress_uploads
[22:52] <wrecksdart> glebihan: www-data owns from website_assets down
[22:52] <glebihan> wrecksdart, /media ? is that a USB drive ? if so, which partition type is it ?
[22:52] <wrecksdart> ext4
[22:52] <nythrow> Kiten: I mean. It is a person who needs printing, browsing web etc. No special prefers.
[22:52] <Kiten> gnome3
[22:53] <wrecksdart> glebihan: fstab's entry is set to defaults 0 0
[22:53] <Kiten> if they are coming from windows KDE would be pretty similar to it
[22:53] <wrecksdart> glebihan: maybe that's an issue?
[22:53] <Kiten> nythrow, kubuntu uses kde its pretty similar visually to windows, but if they are ok with something new gnome3 is pretty easy to navigate
[22:53] <glebihan> wrecksdart, I don't think so, let me try something
[22:53] <Jordan_U> !pm | karl-augustt
[22:54] <Kiten> nythrow, i feel obligated to tell you that you can install other DE's without having to reinstall ubuntu
[22:55] <nythrow> Kiten: KDE4 is too heavy.
[22:55] <zth> my flash lags and chops alot in fullscreen-mode in firefox. i'm using ubuntu 11.04 with propertairy ATI-drivers installed and proper gpu-acceleration. anyone got a clue? anyone?
[22:55] <Kiten> so you need a lightweight DE/wm
[22:55] <Kiten> ?
[22:55] <nythrow> Kiten: I'm not Ubuntu user, c'mon. I'm arch user.
[22:55] <Kiten> oh then
[22:55] <Kiten> eff gnome3
[22:55] <nythrow> But I don't know what's easy too new Linux users. :P
[22:55] <Kiten> oh nvm then
[22:55] <nythrow> *to;
[22:55] <slbmeh> zth: what flash?
[22:55] <iceroot> nythrow: try unity which is the default in ubuntu
[22:56] <zth> slbmeh, adobe beta, latest through flashaid plugin
[22:56] <Dougy> wut'
[22:56] <Jordan_U> nythrow: Ubuntu is designed to be easy to use for beginners. Just stick to the defaults and you should be about as good as you can get.
[22:56] <Kiten> nythrow, xfce is lightweight and similar to gnome
[22:56] <glebihan> wrecksdart, I think www-data needs to have read and execute permissions on all folders above 2011/12 on the target drive (just ran a test here, and it seems to fail if that is not the case)
[22:56] <skegeek> I'd like help troubleshooting freezing please. I reinstalled (11.10->10.04) without resolve, prior to that I tried removing gnome-screensaver and xscreensaver as I tried xubuntu-desktop to fix as well as disabling compiz for 11.10. The freezes happen after being idle either: after the screen goes black and monitor power light turns orange, within 5 minutes after entering password upon returning, and sometimes randomly when I haven
[22:56] <skegeek> 't been afk at all.
[22:58] <wrecksdart> glebihan: so you're saying I have to give www-data rw perms from /media all the way down (/media/haus1/website_assets/wordpress_uploads)?
[22:58] <karl-augustt> jordan_U: do you receive to my msg? I read and understand yours
[22:58] <karl-augustt> jordan_U: do you receive  my msg? I read and understand yours
[22:58] <glebihan> wrecksdart, not rw but rx
[22:59] <Kiten> skegeek, if you are familiar with terminal would you mind posting your syslog ?
[23:00] <Kiten> * pastie.org your syslog
[23:00] <Jordan_U> karl-augustt: I did. Do you still have a question?
[23:00] <Kiten> please to post :(
[23:00] <wrecksdart> glebihan: hmm…everything (else) on that remote drive is owned by my username--should I add myself to the www-data group to fix that?
[23:00] <reesk> why dosent ubuntu properley remove programs i just uninstalled apache and it left all its files behind which is meaning the next install is using those bad files
[23:00] <Kiten> *please don't post xchat is freaking on me
[23:00] <skegeek> I noticed with 11.10 that it didn't appear to happen if I had htop running in a terminal. I also had noticed twice with a disc in the CD/DVD drive, I could hear it was trying to interact with the disc, but the system appeared otherwise frozen with a black screen.
[23:00] <glebihan> wrecksdart, rather the opposite (add www-data to your user's group)
[23:01] <Oer> reesk, use the --purge option to remove any config.
[23:01] <wrecksdart> glebihan: mkay--one sec…and thanks for the help!
[23:01] <reesk> Oer: sytax please
[23:01] <crazymarine> hi, i have an error trying to install 10.04 32bit and i get an error with it not able to mount /dev/loop0 to //filesystem.squashfs with input/output error
[23:01] <glebihan> wrecksdart, you're welcome, hope that works
[23:01] <Edward2> I'm having problems with the Sound Settings. Every time I set the Input Connector to Analog Microphone, it resets itself to Analog Line-In. Why does it do this and is there a conf file I can edit to force it to stay the other way?
[23:02] <skegeek> Is there a command line to send a cat of syslog to a pastebin?
[23:02] <Kiten> skegeek, your monitor might not be working correctly
[23:02] <Jordan_U> crazymarine: That sounds like a problem with the CD/USB you were trying to install from. Did you check that the iso downloaded and burned correctly?
[23:02] <Kiten> skegeek, no DE ?
[23:02] <crazymarine> yes, ran the disk check tool and verified with mutliple burns
[23:02] <Jordan_U> skegeek: pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[23:02] <skegeek> Well, I did see an error during boot regarding EDID invalid or not found or something.
[23:02] <Oer> reesk, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto#Removal_commands
[23:02] <coleix> guys how do install this kinda file? "install-clockworkmod-linux.sh"
[23:03] <Kiten> coleix, uh first where did you get it ?
[23:03] <reesk> Oer: ive done that but nano is still managing to open the conf files
[23:03] <coleix> Kiten: http://android.modaco.com/topic/335479-29-jun-4005-clockworkmod-recovery-for-the-lg-optimus-2x/
[23:03] <skegeek> Doesn't appear to allow post expiration
[23:04] <reesk> Oer: and the folder is still there
[23:04] <Oer> reesk config files will be removed with purge, so i don't know your problem.
[23:04] <Kiten> i've not used it but ./install-clockworkmod-linux.sh # BUT FOR YOUR SAFETY make sure you trust what your installing
[23:05] <reesk> Oer:  ive purged apache2 and its still leaving the files and folders belonging to it
[23:05] <coleix> Kiten: thanks man
[23:05] <Oer> reesk, did you reboot after that? apache is a service, not just a prog
[23:05] <Kiten> some users like to prank or be complete douche's and ruin a users installation
[23:06] <Kiten> coleix, np hopefully its safe
[23:06] <reesk> Oer: not yet will ry that now
[23:06] <skegeek> The whole syslog??
[23:06] <Jordan_U> crazymarine: Does the CD boot on another machine?
[23:06] <Kiten> skegeek, just the latter half
[23:06] <crazymarine> yes on 3 other machines
[23:06] <NeonBeacon> kok
[23:06] <spacebug-> when opening 'home folder' it does not get focus when other programs are started. Why is that? Both 11.10 and 12.04 dev
[23:06] <NeonBeacon> Oops
[23:06] <NeonBeacon> Sorry
[23:07] <Kiten> or if you know when it exactly happened post the hour before, hour of and hour after of it
[23:07] <Jordan_U> crazymarine: Did you try running the boot time integrity check? That will also check that there isn't a problem with the CDROM drive in that particular machine.
[23:07] <crazymarine> yes it comes back with no errors
[23:07] <Jordan_U> crazymarine: Very odd.
[23:08] <Anamika_> guys i need help, live session
[23:08] <Anamika_> cd
[23:08] <DDeveryday> Is there any other way to make a bootable usb drive besides the prefered way on UBuntu website??? That didn't work for me.
[23:08] <Anamika_> ubuntu
[23:08] <Jordan_U> DDeveryday: In what way did it "not work"?
[23:08] <Ben64> I realize 12.04 support is in #ubuntu+1, but nobody is there... I'm getting slow wifi speed on 12.04, about 150K/s throughput. On 10.04 I was getting closer to 1.5MB/s
[23:08] <reesk> Oer: just rebooted and the file is still there
[23:08] <share> ei. I stopped GDM then I logged in in TTY1 ... and now everytime I logout from tty1 GDM stops.
[23:08] <Jordan_U> Ben64: This channel doesn't support development releases. Period.
[23:09] <guest_> I have a cvs repo setup and a few projects are in it. I want to delete one of the projects from the repository. Is their a proper way of deleting these or can I just go to my repo location under /var/lib/cvs and delete the project? Or is their some config files from cvsroot that need to be modified, i,e do I need to do it with a cvs command ?
[23:09] <share> how to get gdm working without being logged in tty1
[23:09] <share> ?
[23:09] <Ben64> Jordan_U: yeah i started with that
[23:09] <skegeek> Here is the syslog: http://pastebin.com/BDBnVweY
[23:09] <DDeveryday> Jordan_U, when i tried to boot into the usb drive, it shows "No Operating System found", and on another computer it shows a flashing "_"
[23:09] <Anamika_> well, ddeveryday try netbooting
[23:10] <share> :|
[23:10] <Jordan_U> Ben64: That you weren't able to get help in #ubuntu+1 does not change the fact that this channel *does not support development versions of Ubuntu*. Period.
[23:10] <Ben64> ok then, pretend i have 11.10
[23:10] <DDeveryday> Jordan_U, I have redownloaded ubuntu from different sources and tried different version the bootable usb drive maker. No luck
[23:10] <share> I want to log out from tty1 without stopping GDM. the problem is that I started GDM in tty1
[23:10] <chachan> share: that happens even if you restart?
[23:10] <share> chachan: I dont want to restart :P
[23:10] <share> but no it doesnt
[23:10] <reesk> Oer: its being wierd apt says that its not installed yet the server still runs and apacche folder and files is still there
[23:10] <Jordan_U> Ben64: It doesn't work that way. Please stop.
[23:10] <chachan> share: how did you start it?
[23:11] <share> chachan: sudo service gdm start
[23:11] <Ben64> Jordan_U: not very helpful
[23:11] <skegeek> Out of curiosity, does syslog contain any identifiable info?
[23:11] <Oer> reesk, when uninstalling apache, did you stop the service ? sudo service apache2 stop
[23:11] <Resistance> is there any way to manually map a sector on a drive as bad?
[23:11] <histo> !wireless | Ben64
[23:11] <Kiten> skegeek, sortof but i won't use it
[23:11] <Resistance> (there's errors being spit into ctrl+alt+f1 about a sector I/O issue
[23:11] <chachan> share: it shouldn't be attached to tty
[23:11] <wrecksdart> glebihan: Doesn't appear to have worked, but I might have messed up adding www-data.  Gotta run, but I'll be working on the perms angle--thanks agian
[23:11] <cake_> hello
[23:11] <histo> Ben64: I would try a different driver and see if the problem persists
[23:11] <Kiten> skegeek, can you give me a date of when it last occurred ?
[23:12] <Ben64> histo: i'll check it out, thanks
[23:12] <cake_> hello?
[23:12] <share> chachan: i was doing it wrong. lol.
[23:12] <cake_> first time on irc is it working?
[23:12] <skegeek> Around 12:30p I believe (about 2-1/2 hours ago).
[23:13] <Jordan_U> cake_: Yes. Welcome to #ubuntu :)
[23:13] <chachan> share: stop it and check what process keep alive with: lsof | grep _your_username_
[23:13] <DDeveryday> Anamika_, thanks! I hope it works.
[23:13] <share> chachan: I wasnt hitting ctrl+alt+f8.
[23:13] <ssta> is there any easy tool to convert quoted-printable text to the original text that can be run from a script? (ie not GUI)
[23:13] <reesk> Oer: no
[23:13] <share> chachan: it's solved now:P
[23:13] <coleix> Kiten: it says i have to run chmod +x install-clockworkmod-linux.sh first, but should i change anything?
[23:13] <chachan> share: cool
[23:14] <share> chachan: restarted X normally, then tty1 and exit, then ctl+alt+f8 to go back to login window
[23:14] <Kiten> coleix, well first make sure you trust it
[23:14] <cake_> is there a channle somewhere just about irc, i dont want to bogg down #ubuntu
[23:14] <Kiten> if you decide you trust it then sudo chmod +x install-clockworkmod-linux.sh
[23:14] <coleix> Kiten: I found it on a guide and it seems safe enought
[23:15] <ssta> ah, qprint
[23:15] <Kiten> skegeek, for like 30 minutes after 12:38 your syslog reported nothing
[23:15] <Kiten> uhh do you have any non repository software installed ?
[23:16] <coleix> Kiten: ahh ok thanks, should i sudo ./intall-clockworkmod-linux.sh too?
[23:16] <skegeek> That sounds strange.
[23:16] <Kiten> probably if it needs it
[23:16] <Kiten> skegeek, yeah that is odd
[23:17] <Kiten> and it had nothing before 12:38 until 04:38 in the morn
[23:17] <skegeek> brb
[23:17] <Kiten> did you shut off or was it running ? because if it was running you got some issues
[23:17] <monstaRtruck> how come my aperance prefs are missing font tab
[23:19] <dr_willis> monstaRtruck:  i think you need to use the gnome-tweak tool to set fonts. There might be other ways
[23:19] <monstaRtruck> y do they keep changing shit aroun
[23:19] <monstaRtruck> so annoying
[23:19] <Corey> monstaRtruck: Language please.
[23:20] <dr_willis> its now gnome-3 and not gnome2 is why monstaRtruck ...
[23:20] <monstaRtruck> o
[23:20] <garthounet> bonsoir
[23:20] <garthounet> pour une erreur de compil je dois poster ou?
[23:20] <crazymarine> just burned another disk and still same error
[23:20] <dr_willis> radically differnt themeing setup and otehr major changes
[23:20] <Corey> !fr | garthounet
[23:20] <garthounet> sorry ;)
[23:20] <Corey> garthounet: C'est pas une probleme.
[23:20] <garthounet> :)
[23:20] <garthounet> good ;)
[23:21] <garthounet> une < no  un < yes
[23:21] <wiredvamp> i am trying to uninstall gnome screensaver cus i installed xscreensaver
[23:21] <garthounet> un problmeme ;)
[23:21] <the-master> monstartruck:  try compiz
[23:21] <Corey> Doh, that's right, it's masculine.
[23:21] <Corey> It's been years, sorry. :-)
[23:22] <the-master> no parle francias...
[23:22] <karl-augustt> Jordan_U: is my system  in OEM mode?
[23:23] <reesk> #freenas
[23:23] <aBound> Is there anyway I can use Compiz with Gnome-Shell?
[23:24] <vits> !list
[23:25] <ChrisC_> where is ./scripts located? in root?
[23:26] <Kiten> skegeek, paste your xorg log too
[23:26] <the-master> aBound: No... you should read this conversation between a Compiz dev and someother dev
[23:26] <Kiten> err pastie or pastebin that is
[23:26] <aBound> the-master, Gotcha. :P
[23:27] <the-master> aBound, you want a link?
[23:27] <aBound> the-master, Sure why not.
[23:29] <Melissa2012> so let me get this straight.  I have 4GB RAM and 1GB video RAM.  If I install 32bit Ubuntu, all Unbuntu can use is 3.5GB RAM and 0.5GB video ram, total=4GB?   but if I install the 64bit Ubuntu, Ubuntu can use the total of 5GB memory?
[23:30] <aBound> Dang, there are some nice themes with gnome-shell but ugh.
[23:30] <MoMo> i have a file and i am in the console -- how can i tell how big that file is?
[23:30] <Kiten> Melissa2012, uhh no 32bit ubuntu can support up to 4gb but no more, your graphics should be fine
[23:30] <bammbamm> Can anyone tell me the terminal command to restart samba?
[23:30] <ChrisC_> Where is ./script/ located? the period is root, correct?
[23:30] <GoodmaN> MoMo: du -h file
[23:31] <Kiten> Chris_0076, no the . is the current directory
[23:31] <riddlebox> can you integrate your google calendar with the unity calendar? like you can in gnome3?
[23:31] <Ryllez89> guys, when i try to open one app with wine, show this for me http://paste.ubuntu.com/788414/
[23:31] <Ryllez89> anyone can help me?
[23:31] <MoMo> GoodmaN: nice -- thank you
[23:33] <bammbamm> Ryllez89: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1548365
[23:33] <bammbamm> Look at post #9
[23:33] <Chris_0076> ok
[23:35] <Edward2> WHY DOES THE VOLUME SETTINGS RESET ITSELF!?
[23:35] <iceroot> Ryllez89: chmod +x on that file
[23:35] <monstaRtruck> thx gnome tweak worked
[23:35] <iceroot> Ryllez89: also its a good idea not to buy products which needs to be jailbreaked first to be usable
[23:35] <Ryllez89> bammbamm, thank u dude, u resolve my problem
[23:36] <iceroot> bammbamm: sudo service samba restart
[23:36] <iceroot> bammbamm: maybe its smb or smbd instead of samba
[23:37] <Kiten> skegeek, so far everything looks fine did you install your gpu's proprietary or are you using normal drivers ?
[23:37] <Kiten> *gpu's proprietary drivers
[23:37] <bammbamm> Ryllez89: np
[23:37] <Kouen> hello
[23:38] <bammbamm> iceroot: smbd worked - thanks!
[23:38] <Kouen> i need help
[23:39] <MoMo> is there a way to nohup a background process thats running?
[23:39] <iceroot> MoMo: #bash
[23:39] <iceroot> !ask | Kouen
[23:39] <MoMo> roger that thx
[23:40] <dr_willis> MoMo:  http://www.quantprinciple.com/invest/index.php/docs/tipsandtricks/unix/jobcontrol/
[23:40] <Kouen> sudo ufw allow 192.168.0.0/24 to any port 22 this is some sentence i found on the web i want to know what does it mean "/24"
[23:41] <beelowzero> .
[23:41] <dr_willis> Kouen:  its a 'mask' that you can thinkof as a wildcard appled to the ip#.
[23:41] <iceroot> Kouen: its the subnet which is the same as 255.255.255.0
[23:41] <Kouen> so /24 means 255.255.255.0
[23:41] <iceroot> Kouen: wikipedia has a good description about "subnet/subnetmask"
[23:41] <zer0rez> ok just changed over to i3, and used to using screen(well byobu remapped to screen), now typing screen no longer remaps to it, what rc or config isn't being read properly?
[23:42] <Kouen> aaaaaaaaah tyanks a lot guys
[23:42] <dr_willis> Kouen:  http://www.tek-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=1206189
[23:42] <Kouen> and happy new year in advance
[23:42] <iceroot> Kouen: yes, it means 24bit are reservers for the network  255.255.255.0 = 24bit, 255.255.255.255 = 32bit, 255.255.0.0 = 16bit
[23:42] <Ryllez89> anyone here know how i mount the iphone on linux? here show's unable to mount
[23:42] <iceroot> Kouen: so 255.255.0.0 would be /16
[23:43] <dr_willis> zer0rez:  what do you mean remapped to screen?
[23:43] <iceroot> !iphone | Ryllez89
[23:43] <Edward2> I'm having problems with the Sound Settings. Every time I set the Input Connector to Analog Microphone, it resets itself to Analog Line-In. Why does it do this and is there a conf file I can edit to force it to stay the other way?
[23:43] <Edward2> I'm having problems with the Sound Settings. Every time I set the Input Connector to Analog Microphone, it resets itself to Analog Line-In. Why does it do this and is there a conf file I can edit to force it to stay the other way?
[23:43] <Edward2> I'm having problems with the Sound Settings. Every time I set the Input Connector to Analog Microphone, it resets itself to Analog Line-In. Why does it do this and is there a conf file I can edit to force it to stay the other way?
[23:43] <FloodBot1> Edward2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:43] <Kouen> ok
[23:43] <skegeek> back
[23:43] <Kiten> skegeek, so far everything looks fine did you install your gpu's proprietary or are you using normal drivers ?
[23:43] <krambiorix> hi guys
[23:44] <Kiten> *gpu's proprietary drivers
[23:44] <krambiorix> what would be a good backup tool to backup files and mysql databases?
[23:44] <zer0rez> dr_willis, i'd type screen in terminal and i'd really get byobu w/ all it's settings and info @ the bottom
[23:44] <skegeek> The intel graphic drivers are installed, if that's what you mean...
[23:44] <Kiten> did you install them is  what i'm getting at ?
[23:44] <Kiten> s/?//
[23:45] <skegeek> They were installed automatically.
[23:45] <bo> hello i had a problem and found out that i need to free up disk space (as when i type "df" i have "0" available and 100% use)... i tried going in the /home/username directory and enter "ls" to see what is there but there was only one thing that i don't think can be responsible for filling up the entire sda5 partition
[23:45] <iceroot> krambiorix: for mysql "mysqldump"
[23:45] <iceroot> !backup | krambiorix
[23:45] <bo> any ideas?
[23:45] <skegeek> I checked to make sure.
[23:45] <iceroot> bo: du -sh *  will show what is using how much space
[23:45] <Edward2> bo: try ls -la
[23:45] <MonkeyDust> krambiorix  where did you get your nick?
[23:45] <dr_willis> zer0rez:  so you set up an alias..
[23:46] <bo> iceroot: ty
[23:46] <Kiten> skegeek, hmm you might need to try reverting to vesa, if that doesn't fix it then your monitor is having trouble
[23:46] <bo> edward2: what is that?
[23:46] <krambiorix> MonkeyDust, i invented it
[23:46] <Edward2> bo --list --all
[23:46] <iceroot> bo: a good way to free up some space is "sudo apt-get autoremoce && sudo apt-get clean"
[23:46] <Kiten> communicating with *buntu(*nix)
[23:46] <dr_willis> zer0rez:   you can set byobu where it auto launches as needed
[23:46] <MonkeyDust> krambiorix  ambiorix is a local historical hero where i come from
[23:46] <Kiten> iceroot * autoremove :P
[23:46] <skegeek> It was revering to vesa in 11.10 without resolve.
[23:47] <iceroot> bo: a good way to free up some space is "sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean"
[23:47] <Jay_Levitt> So just when I think I have a handle on .bashrc vs .bash_profile and login vs interactive shells, Ubuntu has some trickiness where it always runs .bashrc as long as .bash_profile isn't set - but NOT /etc/profile... can anyone point me at an accurate, up-to-date doc on what runs when?
[23:47] <iceroot> Kiten: thx
[23:47] <krambiorix> MonkeyDust, yeah that's a flemish hero
[23:47] <Kiten> np :P
[23:47] <bo> iceroot and edward2: ty
[23:47] <zer0rez> dr_willis, no i didn't set one up that's what's weird
[23:47] <bo> i will try that
[23:47] <zer0rez> i figured it was a ubuntu thing.
[23:47] <krambiorix> MonkeyDust, people call me krambo (like rambo) and to make it flemish we added ambiorix
[23:47] <thomedy> my wireless is down
[23:47] <iceroot> Jay_Levitt: #basj
[23:47] <Kiten> skegeek, from what i've gathered i'd assume its a laptop ?
[23:47] <syeroc> noob here. can anyone offer advice on getting a netgear usb wireless adapter to install on a fresh ubuntu install
[23:47] <thomedy> d i ran wlist scan
[23:47] <zer0rez> dr_willis,  all my other alias's and variables are working.
[23:48] <skegeek> Sorry, it'd probably help to tell you that I have an external KOGi LCD connected, not just internal LCd.
[23:48] <Kouen> another question... how can i know that for rendering purposes its working the graphics card for acceleration by hardware
[23:48] <Kiten> ahh yeah that would help alot :P
[23:48] <Jay_Levitt> iceroot: no, Ubuntu is going beyond what vanilla bash loads
[23:48] <iceroot> !info bash
[23:48] <Kiten> skegeek, are you using one or the other soley ? or have you got some conglomerate dual screen setup ?
[23:49] <Kiten> *solely
[23:49] <iceroot> Jay_Levitt: i dont think ubuntu patched the bash about that feature but ok
[23:49] <skegeek> They're mirrored
[23:49] <iceroot> bo: lets use this chat
[23:49] <bo> ok
[23:49] <Kiten> ahh do they both blackout or just one ?
[23:49] <Jay_Levitt> iceroot: I'm sure they didn't patch it, they just have some, er, patchwork of scripts that ends up running .bashrc even for interactive shells
[23:49] <iceroot> bo: the command i gave you will remove packages which are no longer needed on /
[23:49] <skegeek> I believe they both do it.
[23:49] <iceroot> Jay_Levitt: bashrc is always executed for interactive shells
[23:49] <Kiten> you using the same driver on both displays ?
[23:50] <bo> iceroot: ok, and if i want to delete the entire sda5?
[23:50] <iceroot> Jay_Levitt: that is not ubuntu-specific
[23:50] <skegeek> I assume so.
[23:50] <iceroot> bo: formating?
[23:50] <bo> iceroot: throught command prompt
[23:50] <bo> ?
[23:50] <iceroot> bo: what about using rm instead of a reformat?
[23:51] <iceroot> bo: rm -rf /path/to/place/which/you/want/to/remove
[23:51] <Kiten> skegeek, your using buntu right ?
[23:51] <bo> iceroot: but how do i know what to rm? use the ls -la?
[23:51] <skegeek> The internal is a 15.4" WXGA (LVCD output) and external is ~17" FlatScreen which I believe is LCD.
[23:51] <skegeek> Yes, Ubuntu 10.04
[23:51] <TiMiDo> bo man rm
[23:51] <Kiten> gnome ?
[23:51] <skegeek> Yes.
[23:52] <iceroot> bo: rm -rf /foo/bar  that will delete the folder bar, rm -rf /foo/bar/ will delete eversything IN bar but not bar itself
[23:52] <skegeek> Gnome 2.30.2
[23:52] <iceroot> bo: rm -rf /foo/bar  that will delete the folder bar, rm -rf /foo/bar/* will delete eversything IN bar but not bar itself
[23:52] <Jay_Levitt> iceroot: Ubuntu's own man page says "When an interactive shell that is not a login shell  is  started,  bash reads  and  executes  commands  from /etc/bash.bashrc and ~/.bashrc, if these files exist."
[23:52] <Kiten> goto system -> administration-> log file viewer then paste your xorg's to pastebin/pastie/paste.ubuntu
[23:52] <Kiten> etc
[23:52] <iceroot> Jay_Levitt: yes, and?
[23:52] <iceroot> Jay_Levitt: that is the bash-default
[23:53] <iceroot> Jay_Levitt: and not ubuntu-specific
[23:53] <Jay_Levitt> iceroot: yes, and.. that is not what actually happens.
[23:53] <Kiten> i have a feeling you might be running different drivers
[23:53] <bo> iceroot: what is -rf?
[23:53] <Jay_Levitt> iceroot: on Ubuntu, if .bash_profile is not present, an interactive login shell will run .bashrc as well.
[23:53] <iceroot> Jay_Levitt: any errors on "source ~/.bashrc"?
[23:53] <DrPenguin> bo: -rf = recursive force
[23:53] <iceroot> bo: -r = recursiv, -f = dont ask questions
[23:53] <thomedy> would someoe help me set up my wirelss
[23:54] <bo> iceroot: asking questions is how i learn
[23:54] <Jay_Levitt> iceroot: no, it runs fine. even when the docs say it doesn't run... again, the man page says .bashrc is for interactive NON-login shells, but it runs for interactive YES-login shells as well
[23:54] <DrPenguin> bo: lol no, thats what -f means, force means to just do it without confirming anything
[23:54] <iceroot> bo: that should be the normal way for everyone :)
[23:54] <Kiten> bo he meant -f literally meant that :P
[23:54] <Kiten> skegeek, did you see my post ?
[23:55] <bo> lol
[23:55] <iceroot> Jay_Levitt: hm, imo running bashrc on the logonshell (tty1) is the default on every GNU/Linux
[23:55] <DrPenguin> Jay_Levitt: doesnt bash read .bashlogin if it exists for an interactive login shell and not .bashrc?
[23:55] <DrPenguin> er… .bash_login
[23:55] <DrPenguin> … whatever it is
[23:56] <Jay_Levitt> DrPenguin: I think that's what actually happens, yes.. I know that if .bash_profile is present, .bashrc is NOT run in interactive shell
[23:56] <Jay_Levitt> I suspect .bash_login would also prevent .bashrc
[23:56] <Jay_Levitt> iceroot: maybe that's true for modern bash, and it's just the man page that's wrong
[23:57] <Jay_Levitt> iceroot: I know at one point a few years ago I was shocked that there was NO single file that was guaranteed to get loaded in all four combinations (interactive vs non, login vs non)
[23:57] <iceroot> Jay_Levitt: yes maybe, i am not using bash here and my shell is acting a little different
[23:57] <Jay_Levitt> Yes, my zsh works wonderfully as well :) But I'm setting up some servers so I have to hold my nose and use  bash
[23:58] <iceroot> zsh ftw :)
[23:58] <Jay_Levitt> Maybe I should just create one central /etc/bash_no_this_one_dammit and have everything else source that.
[23:59] <danawar2> Heyaa #ubuntu
[23:59] <fengbo> ?
[23:59] <DrPenguin> Jay_Levitt: thats what the system does when there is no local bash files in ~
[23:59] <iceroot> Jay_Levitt: maye have a look at #bash if they have another idea for that case
[23:59]  * Jay_Levitt There's also a confusing comment in th default .bashrc: # If not running interactively, don't do anything
[23:59] <Jay_Levitt> [ -z "$PS1" ] && return
[23:59] <bo> iceroot: should i use "du -sh *" in any particular directory to see what i should delete?