[00:00] <macman__> sure :-)
[00:01] <w30> macman__, I think there is a rollback checkbox in the repos settings
[00:06] <Marzata> xfce4-weather-plugin just got updated. thank you!
[00:18] <w30> Marzata, does it work now?
[00:33] <Marzata> w30: yes! just got the update.
[00:33] <GridCube> its there a package that contains more fonts than those preinstalled? or there is a way to install ttf or otf fonts?
[00:38] <Marzata> GridCube: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/01/automatically-install-all-google-web.html
[00:39] <Marzata> GridCube: or just copy any ttf file in .fonts/ in your home directory.
[00:40] <GridCube> :o
[00:40] <GridCube> that last one sounds good
[00:41] <w30> GridCube, if you enable the proprietory repos you can get the truetype fonts with restricted extras
[00:43] <GridCube> :D the .fonts directory idea worked :) thanks
[01:41] <throrik> Quick question in regards to mixer in Xubuntu.  I have a Logitech G35 headset.  My speakers work fine but when I try to get audio playback on my headset I can't seem to get it to work, I have three options in Mixer 1) Logitech G35 Headset (Alsa Mixer) 2) Playback: Logitech G35 Headset Analogue Stereo (PulseAudio Mixer) and a Capture which I don't need.  Just wondering if anyone had any advice to get the audio working,
[01:41] <throrik>  I have selected the controls.
[01:55] <throrik> Installing pulseaudio volume control worked.
[02:33] <projekt26> why does the update manager not ask for a password? if I remember correctly it used to in earlier verions
[03:46] <xubuntu> help, how do i make all new windows open at the center?
[04:42] <matthewofencinit> Hi, I'm trying to extend my desktop across two monitors. Anybody help? I'm ignorant, so if you need more info say so.
[04:42] <matthewofencinit> Thanks
[06:42] <xubuntu406> hello, back after 4 years
[06:56] <Chr|s> been having some issues with my monitor going to sleep and wont wake back up did this to both ubuntu and xubuntu, anyone have any ideas?
[10:28] <Aufwind> Hi, in Ubuntu there was the Option "File -> Connect to server". Where ist the analogon in Xubuntu?
[10:29] <Vermicelli> After upgrading to Oneiric xubuntu, rhythmbox now does not follow system theme. Any ideas to fix this, please?
[10:34] <TheSheep> Vermicelli: use a gtk3 theme
[10:34] <TheSheep> Aufwind: what would it do?
[10:35] <Aufwind> TheSheep, I wanted to connect to an other Ubuntu machine. "Opening a folder and browse some files."
[10:37] <Icantstandthat> hello folks
[10:38] <Icantstandthat> is somebody of you familiar with the eepc 701?
[10:50] <Vermicelli> TheSheep: Why would they change this? Apparently I have no gtk3 themes. The only two that affect rhythmbox at all are high contrast.
[10:54] <TheSheep> Vermicelli: they?
[10:54] <TheSheep> Vermicelli: you mean why would rhythmbox developers decide to use gtk3 for the new version of rhythmbox?
[10:55] <TheSheep> Vermicelli: you would have to ask them, but I suppose it's easier to program in gtk3 than gtk2
[10:55] <Vermicelli> The maintainers. Developers. WHoever made this function differently from the previous.
[10:55] <Vermicelli> ah
[10:56] <Vermicelli> Not just due to this, but I wish there were a rollback button for dist upgrades. That or that I'd have firesight to livecd first.
[11:39] <becker_11> Hi I just installed xubuntu 11.10 but when I go to type something into a form field in firefox I can't see what I am typing as the text and the background are both white any ideas please
[11:45] <becker_11> To clarify the only way I can see what I have written is to double click in the form field to highlight it otherwise it's invisible
[12:55] <digital_ownage> hey
[12:55] <digital_ownage> hey
[12:56] <digital_ownage> guys
[12:56] <digital_ownage> can somebody help me later today by helping me with xubuntu+amd drivers+dual monitor
[12:56] <digital_ownage> and the monitors have a diffrend size
[12:57] <digital_ownage> oh yeh
[12:57] <digital_ownage> and a friend tried it, and his brains exploded :(
[14:10] <gringoire> Hey, I got a problem
[14:10] <gringoire> I installed xubuntu fine, but can't run it
[14:11] <gringoire> I get  a black screen when running it normally, and when running the fallback thing I get loads of text as usual that ends at
[14:11] <gringoire> "ACPI:Core revision 20110413"
[14:11] <gringoire> And nothing afterwards/
[14:11] <gringoire> *. Any ideas?
[14:14] <gringoire> Nvidia geforce 8600 btw
[14:27] <gringoire> When trying it from usb without installing it works perfectly though :\
[14:28] <digital_ownage> hmm
[14:28] <digital_ownage> very wierd
[14:28] <digital_ownage> well
[14:28] <digital_ownage> USB rocks
[14:28] <digital_ownage> XXD
[14:28] <digital_ownage> Hey
[14:28] <digital_ownage> no
[14:29] <digital_ownage> xubuntu sucks with dual monitoring and amd graphics card
[14:29] <digital_ownage> i get another distro
[14:33] <bazhang> thats not a support question
[14:35] <gringoire> bazhang: I'm reinstalling it, maybe it'll help
[14:35] <gringoire> oh maybe you were referring to digital_ownage?
[14:36] <digital_ownage> yes
[14:36] <digital_ownage> a friend tried to help me to set up dual monitoring at my computers, but his brain exploded...
[14:36] <bazhang> digital_ownage, thats quite enough.
[14:37] <digital_ownage> yes
[14:37] <digital_ownage> it is hard to explain it in english
[14:37] <digital_ownage> for me
[14:38] <digital_ownage> anyone here very GOOD with linux and is dutch?
[14:38] <bazhang> digital_ownage, this is not the place for it.
[14:38] <bazhang> !nl | digital_ownage
[14:38] <digital_ownage> thanks
[14:39] <digital_ownage> but it worked fine in ubuntu
[14:39] <digital_ownage> my dual monitoring
[14:39] <digital_ownage> xD
[14:39] <digital_ownage> cyao guys
[14:39] <digital_ownage> +1 for your support here
[14:51] <gringoire> Anyone has any idea about my black monitor issue?
[14:52] <gringoire> May be related,i get hundreds of
[14:52] <gringoire> : unable to enumerate USB device on port 2.
[14:52] <gringoire> Error messages everywhere, not sure if I mentioned before.
[14:55] <xubuntu404> hello world
[14:58] <fogdart> hello there
[14:59] <fogdart> is there anyone available to answer some of my questions ?
[15:15] <fogdart> I have the latest xubuntu installed.  As I have a nice 30" screen the window sizing borders are far to small to hit with the mouse. What must i do to change this. (Old methodes (via metacity xml) do not seem to work anymore)
[15:32] <mongy> fogdart, alt+f8 to resize
[17:36] <kj4> really liking 11.10
[17:36] <kj4> i'll bet we're picking up some ubuntu refugees
[17:37] <DarkEra> that already started just after the 11.04 release
[17:38] <kj4> hehe. i havent been on any ubuntu since xubuntu about 4 years ago, its looking great now
[17:40] <qpnaosc> hello
[17:40] <qpnaosc> I have a question for all you xubuntu gurus...
[17:40] <DarkEra> been away myself for a few months, just installed ubuntu 11.10 on the laptop again and xubuntu will take it's place on the netbook later on when i have the time kj4
[17:41] <qpnaosc> I'm trying to install a second hard drive into my computer
[17:41] <holstein> yeah? you dont just install XFCE on ubuntu? or install xubuntu-desktop ?
[17:41] <kj4> xfce has realy improved.  it is what gnome should have been all along
[17:41] <qpnaosc> my computer is very old, and uses PATA, but my new hard disk uses SATA, so I got the conversion cables etc.
[17:42] <qpnaosc> however, there is a driver that comes with the SATA converter that uses windows. So I tried opening it with WINE, and WINE said nope, it's not executable
[17:42] <qpnaosc> should I try making it executable? And if so, how?
[17:43] <qpnaosc> what's XFCE?
[17:43] <qpnaosc> sorry, were you talking to me?
[17:43] <DarkEra> xfce is the desktop environment xubu uses
[17:44] <holstein> qpnaosc: have you just tried linux with the hardware?
[17:44] <kj4> qpnaosc: you might have trouble getting that to work under wine, check out holstein ^^
[17:45] <kj4> kj4: also, a USB external enclosure might work for you, if you are just using the drive for addtl storage
[17:45] <holstein> qpnaosc: if you havent just plugged it in and tried it, do so... typically everything like that is just in the kernel
[17:45] <holstein> sometimes not though...
[17:45] <qpnaosc> tried linux with the hardware?
[17:45] <qpnaosc> I don't think it's showing up
[17:46] <holstein> qpnaosc: you can plug it in, and we can run some commandes to confirm that... you can run lspci and read that list looking for the hardware
[17:46] <qpnaosc> it should give me the option to boot to the disk, shouldn't it? If it's recognizing it
[17:46] <holstein> you can run sudo fdisk -l and look through that lise for the hard drive that i assume is plugged into it
[17:46] <qpnaosc> it's already plugged in
[17:46] <qpnaosc> ah, I tried that without the sudo
[17:47] <holstein> if it were my rig, i would go to a machine with no other hard drives... i would run a live CD, and do some testing
[17:47] <qpnaosc> ah
[17:47] <holstein> i would not expect wine to be helpful with that
[17:47] <qpnaosc> it gives me three drives, /dev/sdb 1, 2, and 5
[17:48] <holstein> qpnaosc: those should be 3 partitions
[17:48] <holstein> one drive
[17:48] <qpnaosc> okay
[17:49] <qpnaosc> ah, yes, it's got another drive as well
[17:49] <holstein> i would abaondon wine.. i would put an email out to the manufacturer and ask about linux support.. i would look around for hte reciept and consider returning it... i would google "ubuntu and the model #" and see if you see any info
[17:49] <qpnaosc> my original hard disk has only 40 GB, this one has 320 :)
[17:50] <qpnaosc> I got it for free :)
[17:50] <qpnaosc> okay
[17:50] <qpnaosc> damn, I already put it in
[17:50] <kj4> so you can see the other drive in fdisk?
[17:50] <qpnaosc> yep
[17:51] <kj4> are you familiar with gparted?
[17:51] <holstein> you want to search "ubuntu", and not "xubuntu" at first... and you can also try #ubuntu... both of these will braoden your search results
[17:51] <qpnaosc> kj4: not really
[17:52] <qpnaosc> okay, I'll look for the model number
[17:52] <holstein> qpnaosc: if you would like to share some specs, i will help you search for bugs or driver support
[17:53] <kj4> qpnaosc: gparted is a gui utility for managing partitions
[18:02] <holstein> qpnaosc: i have a sata controller that i was using in a test machine... to test and run diagnostics on hard drivers or whatever. i got a blueray burner and plugged it in there first... no show.. before i filled ou the RMA, i tested it on a more modern controller in the machine i was planning on using the drive in, and it was plug and play like i have come to expect
[18:03] <holstein> s/drivers/drives
[18:04] <qpnaosc> used gparted and created a partition on the disk
[18:04] <qpnaosc> it seems to recognize it but won't let me write to it
[18:04] <kj4> you have to mount it
[18:05] <qpnaosc> it's mounted already
[18:05] <kj4> as what?
[18:05] <qpnaosc> downloading disk utility
[18:06] <kj4> you probably just need write permission
[18:06] <qpnaosc> as a read-only file system
[18:07] <kj4> reboot
[18:07] <holstein> qpnaosc: please wait
[18:07] <holstein> please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive
[18:08] <qpnaosc> okay
[18:08] <holstein> the behavior you are encoutering is expected and not a bug or an error
[18:13] <nanotube> Unit193: fyi, just ran compiz --replace here, and everything looks great, no problems, didn't have to install anything extra or whatnot. (keep in mind this is on ubuntu with xubuntu-desktop installed, not pure xubuntu)
[18:15] <Unit193> Sweet! That makes it easier!  I thought you had to have emerald or something, but I guess not
[18:16] <qpnaosc> ok, read it
[18:17] <qpnaosc> my friend recommends using pysdm to configure it
[18:17] <daysahead5> i have the workspace switcher is it possible to have my panel show windows from all different workspace and then i click on the minimized window and it takes me to that workspace?
[18:18] <daysahead5> something similar to window menu where i can select any window in the drop down list but not have to use a drop down list just have them all on the panel?
[18:18] <holstein> qpnaosc: i recommend checking that wiki page... i feel like you should at least be aware of what http://pysdm.sourceforge.net/ is goint to be editing on your behalf
[18:19] <qpnaosc> we did read through the wiki page
[18:19] <qpnaosc> thanks
[18:23] <daysahead5> how do i get a global menu for xfce? similiar to window menu plugin but not in dropdown format?
[18:25] <holstein> daysahead5: i dont have XFCE right in front of me, but there are settings... system - system preferences? something like that... not sure what you mean about 'not in dropdown format'
[18:26] <daysahead5> let me see if i can explain this better
[18:26] <daysahead5> i want the panel to show all windows from various workspaces not just the current workspace
[18:27] <daysahead5> so if i click on one of those windows in the panel it will take me to that workspace with the window open
[18:27] <holstein> daysahead5: i seem to remember just right-clicking and setting that similar to in gnome2
[18:27] <holstein> there are lots of options though... even alternate panels...
[18:27] <daysahead5> holy crap you were right
[18:28] <daysahead5> it was that easy
[18:28] <daysahead5> haha
[18:28] <daysahead5> wow this is brilliant
[18:28] <daysahead5> thanks
[18:28] <holstein> sure... enjoy!
[18:29] <daysahead5> and you can set it to show only windows on that monitor
[18:30] <holstein> daysahead5: its all open... so you can literally do whatever you want... its just a matter of how, and if you want to bother
[18:30] <daysahead5> yes you are right thanks!
[18:37] <daysahead5> can i make each monitor have it's own set of workspaces? rather than have the horizontal span be one workspace?
[18:43] <qpnaosc> hello everyone, I'm back
[18:44] <qpnaosc> Got my new hard disk recognized and put a partition on it, but now it's read-only
[18:45] <qpnaosc> I got a UUID for it
[18:49] <Kurdistan> hi gnome system log does not work in xubuntu 11.10
[18:50] <Kurdistan> can not spin down hard disk when I check powermanager
[18:51] <nanotube> Unit193: yea, apparently there's something else that comes with plain ubuntu that does the trick. :)
[18:52] <Kurdistan> even if I mark it
[18:52] <qpnaosc> holstein: I read that entire page, but couldn't make out what it wanted me to to with the UUID
[18:53] <Unit193> qpnaosc: Can you write to it as root
[18:53] <Unit193> ?
[18:53] <qpnaosc> how would I do that?#
[18:53] <Unit193> nanotube: Hmmm.... We could try to catch what it is :P
[18:54] <Unit193> !sudo | qpnaosc
[18:54] <qpnaosc> oh right
[18:54] <nanotube> well, maybe we could... but i don't even know where to start, there's a crapload of packages on stock ubuntu. :)
[18:54] <qpnaosc> Unit193: I suppose I could, but I'd rather do it through the GUI
[18:55] <qpnaosc> I've already used the storage device manager to allow users to mount and unmount files
[18:55] <qpnaosc> I mean the device, sorry, not files
[18:56] <Unit193> Well, unmount and unplug, when you plug it back in it should be readable
[18:56] <Unit193> nanotube: Could start with dpkg -l |grep compiz  but I don't think that'd be it (Maybe Gnome window manager or some such)
[18:57] <nanotube> Unit193: well, i'll be happy to pastebin whatever you suggest :)
[18:58] <qpnaosc> I've already unmounted and rebooted
[18:58] <Kurdistan> is gnome powermanagment better den xfce?
[18:58] <Kurdistan> will it work if I install gnome  powermanagment and remove xfce powermanagment?
[18:58] <Marzata> Xfce all the way. The new Xfce is better than any Gnome.
[18:59] <Unit193> Fri, 30 Dec 2011 13:59:14 -0500
[18:59] <Kurdistan> Marzata, answer my question instead.
[18:59] <Unit193> Oop! (Wrong button)
[18:59] <qpnaosc> hah
[19:01] <nanotube> http://paste.ubuntu.com/788190/ <- Unit193
[19:01] <Unit193> You could use either fstab or pysdm
[19:01] <nanotube> maybe compiz-gnome package
[19:01] <qpnaosc> holstein: hi, I looked through those pages
[19:02] <qpnaosc> and haven't found them helpful
[19:02] <holstein> qpnaosc: cool
[19:02] <holstein> those are the pages i used to mount drives i have added to fstab
[19:02] <holstein> with read and write permissions
[19:02] <holstein> fat, ext.. whatever
[19:02] <qpnaosc> at the top of the fstab section it recommends using UUID instead
[19:02] <holstein> qpnaosc: yup... that is a constant
[19:03] <Unit193> nanotube: When I go to install compiz, that's one of the things that comes with it
[19:03] <holstein> /dev/whatever can change... say, if you have a USB stick plugged at boot
[19:03] <holstein> qpnaosc: the UUID is a constant, and there are samples of how the fstab entry can look
[19:03] <nanotube> Unit193: and still doesn't work when you run compiz --replace?
[19:03] <holstein> and examples about how to do it manually without adding the new drive to fstab qpnaosc
[19:03] <qpnaosc> right
[19:04] <Unit193> nanotube: I didn't go that far, I'll have to check it in a VM
[19:04] <nanotube> mm
[19:04] <qpnaosc> holstein: where are those examples? I couldn't find them
[19:05] <holstein> qpnaosc: you can always reference your actual fstab
[19:05] <holstein> you should make a backup and know how to recover from a live CD
[19:05] <mongy> Unit193: if it makes any difference (might not) I use compiz --replace ccp
[19:08] <qpnaosc> holstein: I've looked at my fstab now
[19:08] <qpnaosc> this is what it says about my drive:
[19:08] <qpnaosc> /dev/sdb1  /media/sdb1     ext4  group,users,user,owner    0  0
[19:09] <holstein> qpnaosc: yup.. looks right
[19:10] <holstein> qpnaosc: along with that link i gave earlier is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab#Editing_fstab
[19:10] <holstein> again... when i learned, i manually mounted ar first, to get comfortable with the process
[19:12] <Unit193> I still do :P
[19:13] <mongy> Unit193: still problems running compiz?
[19:13] <holstein> Unit193: :)
[19:14] <daysahead5> Unit193: :)
[19:14] <Unit193> mongy: I'm figureing it out the easy way so when I see someone ask (See it often)
[19:14] <daysahead5> compiz is nice eye candy
[19:15] <Unit193> I personally don't need it
[19:16] <daysahead5> i don't either every once in awhile it's nice to compiz --replace
[19:16] <daysahead5> and have some wobbly windows and a cube
[19:16] <mongy> Unit193:  I never had any problems just installing compiz and few extra packages like compiz-core and ccsm.  I use emerald but for gtk you'd need gtk-window-decorator --replace --metacity-theme Ambiance instead
[19:17] <daysahead5> what's ambiance?
[19:17] <holstein> i have 2 monitors on my audio recording rig... i have ardour on one, and the ardour mixer on the other, and JAMin mastering plug and other effects transparent over top of the mixer... allowing me to see all levels live in realtime... thats a great use of compiz, and this is done on the GPU
[19:17] <daysahead5> wow that is a great use of compiz
[19:18] <mongy> daysahead5: just a gtk window theme..  was just an example
[19:18] <daysahead5> got it
[19:18] <holstein> i can do without cubes and fire, but some of it is key to my workflow
[19:18] <daysahead5> makes sense can you not do transparent windows in xfwm4?
[19:19] <holstein> sure.. but is that on the GPU?
[19:19] <daysahead5> probably not
[19:19] <qpnaosc> Yes! I did it!
[19:19]  * qpnaosc hands out cigars
[19:19] <qpnaosc> holstein: thanks
[19:19] <qpnaosc> I didn't have to change fstab, I just used sudo chmod
[19:19] <daysahead5> he left in a hurry
[19:20] <holstein> daysahead5: its my understanding that that compositing is done on the CPU
[19:20] <holstein> not that its a deal breaker...
[19:22] <mongy> Im too used to having scale and expo and a few other little tweaks now from old gnome2 days. Still, with xfce and compiz/emerald it uses less than gnome2 with compiz :)
[19:22] <daysahead5> xfce is awesome
[19:22] <daysahead5> what does lubuntu use?
[19:22] <daysahead5> ldxe?
[19:22] <holstein> yup
[19:24] <Unit193> holstein: Quit messing with Freenode!!
[19:24] <holstein> hehe... sorry... /me plugs cable back in... ;p
[19:24] <daysahead5> which is lighter ldxe or xfce?
[19:25] <holstein> daysahead5: LXDE is arguably lighter
[19:25] <DarkEra> LXDE is lighter, Xfce is midclass
[19:25] <holstein> but, its a ll a matter of compromise and taste
[19:25] <daysahead5> true
[19:25] <Unit193> Right, I'd recommend this go to #xubuntu-offtopic
[19:25] <holstein> and default configuration
[19:26] <daysahead5> xfce seems pretty light weight with a lot of bells and whistles
[19:26] <daysahead5> and thanks unit
[19:26] <daysahead5> sorry
[19:31] <Chr|s> getting an error stating file '/home/user/.gvfs': Transport endpoint is not connected. Any ideas on why this is happening? happens each time I click on my home folder
[19:32] <holstein> maybe the configured share is gone? http://www.nicolaskuttler.com/post/sshfs-transport-endpoint-not-connecte/
[19:33] <holstein> Chr|s: ^
[19:34] <Chr|s> I did something different this install....I encrypted my home folder...that could of done something
[19:34] <daysahead5> how do you set your home folder to be encrypted?
[19:35] <holstein> i did it at install... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome
[19:35] <Chr|s> when you do a fresh install it asks if you want to encrypt it or not
[19:36] <daysahead5> thanks
[19:36] <daysahead5> no way to do it after install?
[19:36] <holstein> AFAIK, you can... i think that link mentions some options
[19:37] <daysahead5> i mean i guess i could just encrypt everything in there with some program
[19:37]  * holstein uses truecrypt
[19:37] <daysahead5> can i mount a folder via ssh or does it have to be via samba?
[19:37] <daysahead5> yes truecrypt is good
[19:38] <mongy> daysahead5: with the ecryptfs-utils package
[19:38] <Chr|s> hmm
[19:38] <mongy> the ecryptfs-migrate-home some such command
[19:39] <mongy> daysahead5: that was to do with encrypting btw, not ssh mounting :)
[19:40] <daysahead5> will look at that package thanks
[19:40] <daysahead5> so can i mount via ssh or should i just use samba
[19:40] <mongy> sshfs
[19:41] <daysahead5> installing it now
[19:43] <daysahead5> so it would be sshfs user@host /mnt/ExternalDownloads?
[19:43] <daysahead5> something like that?
[19:43] <mongy> or gigolo
[19:43] <mongy> uses sftp to connect to a server.
[19:43] <mongy> quite simple really
[19:43] <daysahead5> ah ya sftp can do that in filezilla :)
[19:43] <daysahead5> but can you mount sftp?
[19:44] <mongy> yeah, this uses thunar
[19:44] <mongy> mounts in .gvfs
[19:44] <mongy> much like nautilus does
[20:21] <Marzata> usb cam mic works on one pc, but not on other? idea?
[20:38] <mongy> mm, liking this new byobu v5.
[20:43] <Marzata> mongy: what is new?
[20:43] <daysahead5> byobu is awesome!
[20:44] <daysahead5> you use f keys or screen keys?
[20:44] <daysahead5> :)
[20:44] <mongy> F
[20:45] <daysahead5> nice i'm using screen
[20:45] <daysahead5> how do i scroll in the window
[20:45] <mongy> f2 to make new window, f3/f4 to navigate them.
[20:45] <mongy> http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2011/12/byobu-5-released.html
[20:45] <daysahead5> yess i do ctrl a n next ctrl a p for previous
[20:45] <daysahead5> same thing
[20:45] <daysahead5> just don't know how to scroll in the window
[20:46] <Marzata> pgdn?
[20:46] <mongy> alt-pageup/pagedown
[20:47] <daysahead5> doesn't work :(
[20:47] <mongy> f7
[20:47] <mongy> then alt pageup down,
[20:47] <mongy> or just scroll up down with arrow keys
[20:47] <daysahead5> doesn't work idk why it's stupid
[20:47] <daysahead5> it's annoying
[20:48] <daysahead5> it like keeps it set
[20:48] <mongy> enter to leave mode
[20:48] <daysahead5> i can do ctrl a escape and then i can use the arrow but page up and page down don't work
[20:49] <mongy> in v5?
[20:50] <daysahead5> i just restarted my terminal
[20:50] <daysahead5> and page up works now
[20:51] <daysahead5> after ctrl alt escape it works
[20:51] <daysahead5> i use terminator and byobu
[20:55] <daysahead5> bad mount point do i have to create the folder first before i try to mount to it?
[20:56] <mongy> yup
[20:56] <daysahead5> but how can i put something in the /media folder?
[20:56] <mongy> how do you view scrollback in irssi anyway
[20:56] <daysahead5> how do i create a new folder in there?
[20:56] <daysahead5> mkdir?
[20:56] <mongy> sudo mkdir
[20:57] <daysahead5> that worked to make the dir how i'm trying to use that sshfs
[20:57] <Marzata> irssi pgup /pgdn
[21:02] <daysahead5> do i have to chmod that to anything in /media/downloads if that's the directory i made
[21:04] <mongy> oh god, why is that simple...
[21:04] <mongy> Marzata:
[21:04] <mongy> daysahead5: you mount with permissions, not chmod it
[21:05] <daysahead5> hmmm
[21:06] <daysahead5> it didn't give me any errors but the when i got open the folder in /media/downloads nothings there
[21:10] <mongy> dang
[21:11] <mongy> seems you do need to set perms on the mount folder.
[21:11] <mongy> I'm rusty as hell
[21:11] <daysahead5> hmm
[21:14] <mongy> well, I just used sshfs user@host:/home/user /media/test/
[21:15] <mongy> try user@host:
[21:25] <daysahead5> i have to do /home/user?
[21:27] <mongy> no.  for me just user@host: worked
[21:29] <daysahead5> do i have do sudo sshfs?
[21:29] <daysahead5> so i make a directory say in media
[21:29] <daysahead5> sudo mkdir /media/downloads
[21:30] <daysahead5> do i have to change priv's on that?
[21:32] <mongy> I had to chown it
[21:32] <mongy> at least
[21:32] <mongy> I guess to mount it in /media you have to.
[21:33] <daysahead5> so chown user /folder
[21:33] <daysahead5> or chown root /folder?
[21:34] <mongy> either mount it in a folder in your home or sudo chown $USER /media/whatever
[21:34] <daysahead5> got it
[21:34] <daysahead5> i think it's working!
[21:35] <daysahead5> so i have to chown it because i don't have privileges in there?
[21:36] <jost_> hi
[21:36] <jost_> is there a network installation package for xunbuntu available?
[21:36] <jost_> couldn't find one on the homepage...
[21:38] <_Pete_> what do you mean ?
[21:43] <mongy> daysahead5: yup
[21:44] <jost_> its been some time since i tried that last, but there was an ubuntu package prepared for network installation via tftp/bootp. Its still mentioned here, item 4: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet#Set_up_the_servers
[21:45] <jost_> but i've just seen the "A variation: Booting the "Live CD" image" section...
[21:47] <_Pete_> I have done several tftp installation
[21:55] <daysahead5> what's a good source for themes for xubuntu 11.10
[21:57] <mongy> gnome-look.org (yes gtk themes work) and xfce-look.org
[21:57] <mongy> I personally use zukitwo-dark for appearance theme, I like the dark menu and blue tones, and shiki-dark for window theme
[21:58] <mongy> darkandnameless for the emerald theme when compiz is used.
[21:59] <daysahead5> is it tricky making gtk themes work?
[21:59] <mongy> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-BiBy_U9l_DM/TviWKeIJH2I/AAAAAAAABEs/kuSMiuiSmpY/s1024/xfce-compiz.png
[22:00] <mongy> daysahead5: they will only work as appearance themes, not window themes, but they work.
[22:01] <mongy> I only use it because I used it in unity
[22:01] <mongy> works nice as an overall theme
[22:08] <jd> oops got disconnected
[22:08] <jd> is there no way to move the top panel to the bottom panel 1 that is
[22:13] <mongy> just make another, add the applications menu, window buttons, indicator plugin, clock etc
[22:14] <mongy> then remove the top one
[22:19] <Marzata> xfce4-weather-plugin is not working again? Houston?
[22:36] <GridCube> Marzata, the weather plugin will not work ever again
[22:36] <GridCube> blame the weather channel
[22:39] <GridCube> im getting really pissed at flash performance on 11.10
[22:39] <GridCube> i never had this many problems as now
[22:39] <GridCube> ever time i try to watch something it crashes
[22:39] <GridCube> and i have to reload the page at least 6 times to get the streams working
[22:40] <mongy> something I never had a problem with tbh.
[22:40] <mongy> I might be able to help otherwise
[22:56] <Marzata> xfce4-weather-plugin worked fine when was updated yesterday.
[22:57]  * mongy can claim he has never used a weather plugin.. generally look outside
[22:58] <Marzata> never had problems with flash on xubu 11.10
[23:15] <Chr|s> Perfect sound in Ubuntu 11.10, No sound in Xubuntu 11.10, anyone have any idea?
[23:15] <Chr|s> im on a fresh install
[23:15] <GridCube> check it isnt muted
[23:16] <GridCube> it sometimes happen
[23:16] <GridCube> alsamixer should tell you
[23:16] <Chr|s> ok
[23:16] <Chr|s> doh!
[23:16] <Chr|s> I feel stupid
[23:17] <Chr|s> auto-mute was enabled
[23:17] <Chr|s> for some reason
[23:20] <GridCube> :D
[23:20] <GridCube> it happens
[23:28] <mongy> happens a lot to me
[23:32] <linux_newbie> exited, waiting for my very first linux experiense with xubuntu... =)
[23:34]  * Marzata is installing ubuntu server 11.10 + xubuntu desktop. 
[23:38] <GridCube> :D congrats linux_newbie
[23:38] <linux_newbie> thank you =)
[23:39] <GridCube> any question you have ask here
[23:40] <linux_newbie> not yet, but I guess there will be alot