| Kilos | afternoon guys | 15:37 |
|---|---|---|
| Kilos | lo superfly | 15:37 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 15:41 |
| superfly | how are you today, oom Kilos? | 15:41 |
| Kilos | ok ty superfly and you guys? | 15:42 |
| Kilos | in one hour and 15 mins its exactly 26 years since Debs and I met | 15:45 |
| superfly | Kilos: we're doing OK thanks | 15:47 |
| Kilos | good | 15:47 |
| inetpro | good evening everyone | 19:13 |
| inetpro | ... and Kilos | 19:13 |
| Kilos | hiya inetpro | 19:13 |
| inetpro | Kilos: Happy Anniversary! | 19:14 |
| Kilos | ty very much my friend | 19:14 |
| Kilos | lets hope things sort themselves out this year | 19:14 |
| inetpro | next year | 19:15 |
| Kilos | ha ha oh ya | 19:15 |
| inetpro | :-) | 19:15 |
| inetpro | Kilos: I see you're already in the new year though | 19:16 |
| Kilos | tell me something. what are peeps gonna do with old pc's that cant take unity and whatever comes from now on | 19:16 |
| Kilos | ha ha ha | 19:16 |
| Kilos | ya debs wished me at our 3pm | 19:16 |
| Kilos | they 9 hours ahead again | 19:17 |
| inetpro | Kilos: throw them away | 19:17 |
| Kilos | the pc's?? | 19:17 |
| inetpro | yep | 19:17 |
| Kilos | oh my | 19:17 |
| inetpro | or make servers out of them | 19:17 |
| Kilos | that is gonna lose lotsa ubuntu people | 19:18 |
| inetpro | the new technology eventually takes over | 19:18 |
| Kilos | nee man | 19:18 |
| Kilos | lotsa peeps will keep using xp | 19:19 |
| Kilos | so we should have one release for old pc's | 19:19 |
| inetpro | Kilos: a modern cellphone has more stuff builtin than the 1st computer that went to the moon | 19:19 |
| Kilos | win7 also cries for modern pc's | 19:19 |
| inetpro | Kilos: there are many distros out there that focus on running stuffs on old tech | 19:20 |
| Kilos | there are too many people world wide that are pensioners or for other reasons will never be able to afford a mod pc | 19:20 |
| inetpro | ubuntu is up front in terms of trying out new ideas | 19:21 |
| Kilos | if i keep this pc on maverick and i get to stay overseas some time does that mean my sis is gonna have to go to xp? | 19:22 |
| inetpro | eish, I hope not | 19:22 |
| Kilos | she wont be able to work with another distro if i not here to help her | 19:22 |
| inetpro | XP is dood | 19:22 |
| Kilos | there are many businesses still using xp | 19:23 |
| inetpro | Kilos: ubuntu will also keep running | 19:23 |
| Kilos | ian has many probs trying to get them to go win 7 because of thier security software | 19:23 |
| Kilos | thats what i want to know | 19:23 |
| Kilos | will mavreick die if there is no more support | 19:24 |
| Kilos | maverick | 19:24 |
| inetpro | the only problem is that you won't get updates for to long | 19:24 |
| Kilos | or can sis use it for next 10 years | 19:24 |
| inetpro | who knows what the future holds | 19:25 |
| Kilos | if it has ufw and the virus goodie will it not be safe for years to come | 19:25 |
| Kilos | clamtk | 19:26 |
| inetpro | Kilos: maybe you become rich and sponsor her a new plug and play thingy in a year or two | 19:26 |
| Kilos | or something like that | 19:26 |
| Kilos | ha ha ha | 19:26 |
| Kilos | i am sure if one isnt personally hacked then maverick will work for years | 19:27 |
| inetpro | Kilos: all depends on what the pc is used for and what apps are installed | 19:28 |
| Kilos | it will be for mail and pidgin | 19:28 |
| inetpro | and then how it is managed or mismanaged | 19:28 |
| Kilos | mxit and msn | 19:28 |
| inetpro | Kilos: 10 years is a very long time in computers | 19:29 |
| Kilos | this one is already 10 years old | 19:30 |
| inetpro | though they go by very quickly these days | 19:30 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 19:30 |
| Kilos | oh well if it crashes she can always mxit to me on her cellphone | 19:32 |
| inetpro | you see, it will even get easier as time goes | 19:33 |
| inetpro | the world is becoming a very small place | 19:33 |
| Kilos | or if i get a better graphics card then i will go unity here | 19:33 |
| Kilos | yeah but texting on a fone sucks | 19:33 |
| Kilos | i dunno how the kids manage | 19:34 |
| Kilos | maybe i been spoiled here | 19:34 |
| inetpro | easy, they don't have our baggage | 19:34 |
| Kilos | but who knows. if them visa fools give me a visa something else will stop me staying there for more than 3 months | 19:35 |
| inetpro | they just plug it in and it works | 19:35 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:35 |
| inetpro | and if it aint working they play around until it does | 19:36 |
| inetpro | they figure it out much faster than you and me | 19:36 |
| Kilos | yeah if you need help with a cellphone ask a kid | 19:37 |
| inetpro | actually quite amazing how it works | 19:37 |
| inetpro | sometimes I wish I was a kid so I can just do things without worrying about it | 19:38 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:38 |
| inetpro | would perhaps get more things done | 19:38 |
| inetpro | so much stuffs that is left undone | 19:38 |
| Kilos | yip | 19:39 |
| Kilos | ok if you setup a pc as a server can you install pidgin on it | 19:40 |
| Kilos | or will you need all the graphics stuff | 19:40 |
| inetpro | no man, don't do that | 19:40 |
| inetpro | pidgin is a client desktop thingy | 19:40 |
| inetpro | the server side of pidgin would be to host your own xmpp server service or some such and let peeps connect to it | 19:41 |
| Kilos | but how will you see whats happening without a desktop? | 19:42 |
| Kilos | have you heard from vodacom yet inetpro | 19:43 |
| inetpro | hmm... yes | 19:43 |
| inetpro | but not solved yet | 19:43 |
| inetpro | they called me again and wished me a happy new year | 19:43 |
| inetpro | say they are working on my problem in my area | 19:44 |
| inetpro | no timelines given | 19:44 |
| Kilos | well at least thats something | 19:45 |
| Kilos | they have also started building a new tower about 5 ks from here that will be voda only not a shared tower | 19:46 |
| Kilos | but this one is fixed too | 19:46 |
| inetpro | and it seems I can't do anything about premium rated sms messages billed on my invoice but not sent from my device | 19:46 |
| Kilos | whew | 19:47 |
| inetpro | got about R900 worth of SMS messages billed on my latest account | 19:47 |
| inetpro | definitely not sent from my device | 19:47 |
| Kilos | get a new sim | 19:47 |
| Kilos | thats a lot of money to throw away | 19:48 |
| Kilos | someone piggy backing your account | 19:48 |
| Kilos | thats like 500 smses | 19:49 |
| inetpro | just not sure why | 19:49 |
| inetpro | and how | 19:49 |
| inetpro | no | 19:49 |
| inetpro | R26 per SMS | 19:49 |
| Kilos | mmses | 19:49 |
| inetpro | no | 19:49 |
| inetpro | premium rated sms | 19:50 |
| inetpro | some funny short code | 19:50 |
| Kilos | what kinda smses are they | 19:50 |
| inetpro | they investigated and have sent me the details of codes sent each time | 19:50 |
| Kilos | havent voda got any of them you can get to see where from or where too | 19:51 |
| Kilos | is it all in code? | 19:51 |
| Kilos | no man buy a new sim card | 19:51 |
| inetpro | my number is now blacklisted for this service | 19:52 |
| inetpro | on contract | 19:53 |
| Kilos | eina dis baie lelik | 19:53 |
| inetpro | I hate mobile contracts | 19:53 |
| Kilos | yeah pay as you go better | 19:53 |
| inetpro | my wish for 2012 is that mobile companies would stop raping the public and scale down to one single rate for everyone, the more you use the more you pay. | 19:55 |
| Kilos | yeah | 19:55 |
| Kilos | so now what can you still do with that contract? | 19:56 |
| Kilos | ask them if you can change sim cards and transfer | 19:57 |
| Kilos | i am sure they can make a plan as long as you stay with them | 19:59 |
| inetpro | well I have changed the plan and my costs will hopefully come down significantly | 20:01 |
| Kilos | i hope so for your sake. thats a shocker | 20:01 |
| Kilos | but i be dom i know but what is a premium sms | 20:04 |
| Kilos | one to the moon or what | 20:04 |
| Kilos | a sms to aus is R1.85 | 20:04 |
| Kilos | or is it sending to multiple contacts | 20:05 |
| Kilos | they must have it all on record | 20:06 |
| inetpro | Kilos: nee slaan my ddo | 20:10 |
| inetpro | dood* | 20:10 |
| inetpro | ek weet nie wat gestuur is nie en hoekom nie | 20:11 |
| inetpro | I have asked them to investigate further | 20:11 |
| Kilos | Maaz, google what is a premium sms in south africa on vodacom | 20:11 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "Premium Rate SMS (Shortcodes) | BULKSMS South Africa" http://bulksms.2way.co.za/w/solutions_psms.htm :: "mBILL :: Coverage :: SMS :: Premium :: Africa :: South Africa" http://www.m-bill.com/coverage/sms/premium/africa/southafrica :: "Always Active Technologies :: Send SMS | Bulk SMS | Email to SMS ..." http://www.aat.co.za/ :: "WASP aggregator list - WASP - Vodacom" http://wasps.vodacom.co.za/wasp/landing/Aggregatorlist.aspx?URLId=1 | 20:11 |
| Kilos | most likely adds or something to many many people at once | 20:13 |
| inetpro | Kilos: ek dink dit moet iets wees soos die advertensies met kodes wat jy stuur vir 'n screensaver en dergelikke goed | 20:21 |
| inetpro | almal in my familie weet dat daai goed geld kos en daar is geen behoefte om enige van daai goed te stuur | 20:22 |
| Kilos | kry hulle ceo op iwitter en kerm by hom inetpro | 20:24 |
| Kilos | 20:24 | |
| Kilos | het jy nog sy info? | 20:24 |
| inetpro | Kilos: yep, maar ek ek sal maar eers kans gee voor ek dit gebruik | 20:25 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 20:25 |
| inetpro | desember en begin januarie is almal mos nog op holiday | 20:25 |
| Kilos | of gaan na n voda winkle of even hulle hoofkantoor en se jy wil self op hulle pc's sien waar is dit heen | 20:26 |
| Kilos | vergeet hulle holiday man | 20:26 |
| Kilos | ek wet jou hy is elke dag op twitter | 20:26 |
| inetpro | Kilos: voorspoed vir die nuwe jaar! | 20:52 |
| inetpro | ek gaan nou afteken | 20:52 |
| inetpro | moeg nou | 20:52 |
| Kilos | selle daar dankie boetie | 20:52 |
| Kilos | FP | 22:01 |
| Kilos | Happy new year everyone | 22:01 |
| Kilos | sleep tight | 22:02 |
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