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danawar2Looking for a way forward with my programing i know small amounts of C# and java from my year at university and am looking fro a way to help develop my programing skills by helping in development of simple aps can any one point me in the right direction?00:00
icerootbo: its just a good way to see what is taking how much space00:00
icerootbo: for your homedirecty you should use "du -sh .*" too00:00
icerootdanawar2: have a look at python (#python)00:01
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danawar2do you recomend learning phython over c# and java?00:01
boiceroot: so should i use that "sudo apt..." first to get rid of unnecessary packages and then "du - sh .*"?00:01
DrPenguinid recommend learning basic over C#..00:01
icerootdanawar2: #c is evil microsoft and not os-idenpentend00:01
danawar2i am goign into computer security00:01
danawar2what would be the best language to learn?00:02
icerootdanawar2: microsoft has nothing to do with security00:02
DrPenguinsemi kidding because I dont like MS.. but, danawar2: your better off learning languages that work on any platform, it makes you much more versatile00:02
icerootdanawar2: learn things which are working on all plattforms, perl, python, java and of course c and c++00:02
DrPenguindanawar2: you will probably feel a little babied going to python, its much more simpler of a language than java or C# are00:02
Kitendanawar2, there is no best language , however C,C++,perl,Java are the most heavily used00:02
linxehpython too00:03
Kitenas far as web PHP,javascript00:03
icerootalso see ##programming00:03
DrPenguindanawar2: C/C++ would be a nice place to go, because you can use C/C++ code in tandem with Java00:03
linxehand web, php, java, javascript, c sharp00:03
Kiten*rephrase that perl,python00:03
tioxI'll say it again for the hell of it, the Linux kernel is heavily made with C.00:03
icerootlinxeh: not c sharp00:03
icerootlinxeh: its evil and not working on all plattforms00:03
KitenC# isn't cross platform or at least not very portable00:04
DrPenguineverytime a C# program is compiled, a kitten is killed00:04
linxehiceroot: its evil. it works on windows. it mostly works on other major platforms. I only work in it when paid highly enough00:04
icerootcorrect00:04
Kitenexactly00:04
Kitendon't kill me00:04
icerootlinxeh: like unix?00:04
linxehDrPenguin: every time a C++ program is called, someone loses a leg00:04
mebigfatguy_Kiten, heh:)00:04
danawar2how much do you guys get paid roughly are you software developers?00:04
Kitenmebigfatguy_, ;p00:04
icerootlinxeh: and is there a free (not a solution killed with software-patents) implementation of c#? no00:04
danawar2i thought the best bet for good pay was to go into security or management00:04
DrPenguindanawar2: as a Linux Software Engineer for HP, I get payed like.. I think 35G's  a year00:05
linxehiceroot: mono, but as you say, no00:05
Kitenthe average salary is 70,000 a year00:05
DrPenguindanawar2: engineering intern rather *00:05
linxehiceroot: but software patents dont really affect me in the UK00:05
DrPenguinim not a full time employee00:05
linxehKiten: I'm on around £500 a day00:05
icerootDrPenguin: i am also a software engineer for hp :)00:05
Kitenfor a just graduated full time00:05
tioxInteresting. So Mono is a free implementation of C#?00:05
DrPenguiniceroot: wow really? thats awesome!00:05
bazhanglets return to ubuntu support please00:05
danawar2Im in the UK aswell looking despretly for a placement but because i am doing a security course at university no companies want to employ me =[00:05
Kiteni meant in US so 70,000 $00:05
linxehbazhang: good point :)00:05
Jay_Levitticeroot: Can I blame you for my favorite HP-UX bug?00:06
crazymarineok this is wierd, if i try installing 10.04 through cd, i get a mount error, but if i install through usb it works fine00:07
icerootJay_Levitt: its sad but we are using AIX instead of HP-UX.......00:07
Jay_Levitthaha00:07
icerootcrazymarine: when does the error happen? directloy after grub?00:07
crazymarineno when i boot from cd to do an install00:07
icerootcrazymarine: that is grub, its also used on the cd00:08
icerootcrazymarine: there is a bug about "grub can not handle your sata device correctly when it is set to a specific mode in the bios"00:08
tioxiceroot: Long live WebOS! It's a miracle HP decided to open-source it.00:08
icerootcrazymarine: and because of that grub cant use the cd but grub itself is starting fine00:08
crazymarineit cant mount /dev/loop000:09
icerootcrazymarine: thats sounds like the issue00:09
riddleboxcan you integrate your google calendar to the unity calendar?00:09
digitardis there a simple cli way to view contents of a torrent file, specificaly info_hash field. Something like:   less file.torrent00:10
crazymarineis there a fix in the works for it?00:10
tioxriddlebox: Without looking stuff up, I think the calendar in Ubuntu depends on evolution-common. Thunderbird is an E-Mail client that can be modified to use a bridge between Evolution calendar with it's celendar, which you can then integrate your Google calendar into.00:11
DrPenguindigitard: is a torrent file human readable mumbo jumbo?00:11
icerootcrazymarine: i am not sure, the workaround was to set the SATA mode to a different mode in the bios00:11
Kitenlinxeh, nice00:11
Kitenlinxeh, being unemployed sucks00:11
MonkeyDustDrPenguin  a torrent contains data to go and search the net to download something00:11
icerootdigitard: a torrent is just a (zipped?) xml file00:11
tioxBut you also need to find the calendar extension for Thunderbird. Sunbird might be better if you want just a calendar.00:11
riddleboxtiox, I want the integration like there is in gnome300:12
kzmanhi, question: how can I know the packages that a task group (tasksel)?00:12
icerootkzman: --list-tasks00:13
digitardDrPenguin, some of it is readable  but i can't figure out where the info hash is00:13
icerootkzman: also see "man tasksel"00:13
DrPenguindigitard: that doesnt look like an ascii file00:13
kzmaniceroot, mmh, thank you00:13
icerootkzman: --list-packages sounds better00:13
tioxriddlebox: Try this out. Not sure how updated it is, but it might still work. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleCalendarWithEvolution00:14
tioxAlso, real men use man.00:14
digitardDrPenguin, actually i thinks it's all ascii00:15
DrPenguindigitard: I beg to differ00:15
DrPenguindigitard: some of the stuff in there yeah you can read, but theres a TON of junk in the middle that when you cat the file for example, it will make your shell freakout00:16
icerootdigitard: as i said, a torrent file is xml (and maybe zipped)00:17
digitardiceroot, how would i attempt viewing the contents to find the value for the info_hash field?00:17
okapiany one can help me to mount Vxworks hard drive on ubuntu?00:17
Melissa2012anyone awake? :)00:17
dalekusaI have a question about booting into the command line00:18
DrPenguinMelissa2012: im sleeping00:18
Melissa2012so let me get this straight.  I have 4GB RAM and 1GB video RAM.  If I install 32bit Ubuntu, all Unbuntu can use is 3.5GB RAM and 0.5GB video ram, total=4GB?   but if I install the 64bit Ubuntu, Ubuntu can use the total of 5GB memory?00:18
iceroot!nox | dalekusa00:18
ubottudalekusa: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode00:18
Melissa2012anyonw know?00:18
Melissa2012iceroot: you will know :)00:18
DrPenguinMelissa2012: if you wanna use ALL that memory yeah you will need 64bit00:18
icerootMelissa2012: yes00:18
dalekusawhat do I do if i want to change back into a graphical interface?00:18
icerootdalekusa: ctrl + alt + f700:19
Melissa2012iceroot: once I install Ubuntu on my D: drive, or sda2, can I make a ONE IMAGE backup file somehow and restore it from a boot CD if needed?00:19
dalekusaas i boot?00:19
icerootdigitard: http://sourceforge.net/projects/gtorrentviewer/00:19
icerootMelissa2012: yes, e.g. with dd or clonezilla00:20
iceroot!clone | Melissa201200:20
ubottuMelissa2012: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate00:20
icerootMelissa2012: forget the text from ubottu00:20
Melissa2012iceroot: so I boot clonezilla from CD and backup to one image file and to restore boot CD and restore?00:20
clear`pervane2626: dont pm people00:20
icerootMelissa2012: correct00:21
iceroot!backup00:21
ubottuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning00:21
Melissa2012pervane2626: no I dont want to go out on a date with you, thanks for asking :)00:21
Melissa2012iceroot: clonezilla is the best easiest way for a noob?00:21
digitardDrPenguin, iceroot thanks00:21
edbianMelissa2012, get off IRC and install your OS already!00:21
icerootMelissa2012: i think so, never used it :)00:21
mongyMelissa2012: I recommend clonezilla00:21
edbian:P00:21
Melissa2012edbian: lol :)00:21
dalekusaso to boot into gui, I press ctrl + alt+ f7 as the computer boots?00:22
Melissa2012mongy: where is the official clonezilla ISO?00:22
mongyMelissa2012: clonezilla.org00:22
DrPenguindalekusa: … what? Ubuntu by default will boot into a "gui", unless something goes awry during boot00:22
icerootdalekusa: at the moment your system is booting without a gui?00:22
Melissa2012edbian: I was just trying to fully understand.  so I came to ask,  If I install 32bit Ubuntu, all Unbuntu can use is 3.5GB RAM and 0.5GB video ram, total=4GB?   but if I install the 64bit Ubuntu, Ubuntu can use the total of 5GB memory?00:22
Melissa2012mongy: ok cool00:22
icerootdalekusa: do you have a gui installed by default?00:22
edbiandalekusa, you wait for it to boot, then press ctrl+alt+F7   (however this is the default thing it boots to)00:22
DrPenguinedbian: thats actually incorrect.. by default were on tty1, then when X spawns we switch to tty700:23
mongyMelissa2012: it will see 3.3gb ram and all your video ram.  Install a PAE kernel for it to see all your ram, or install 64bit00:23
dalekusaI am running a GUI.00:23
edbianMelissa2012, I think that if you install 32 bit you'll get 3Gb of ram and the entire 1Gb of video card.  But other than that, yes00:23
edbianDrPenguin, I see00:23
Melissa2012mongy: im installing 64bit Ubuntu anyway00:23
icerootMelissa2012: why not just using amd64 as we already said 100 times instead of asking again?00:23
DrPenguinedbian: but thats only because by convention, X is told to spawn on tty7, this isnt set in stone00:23
Melissa2012mongy: i was just trying to learn about it thats all00:23
Melissa2012iceroot: because im learning00:23
icerootMelissa2012: and we told you 50 times why you will not see 4gb with 32bit :)00:24
edbianDrPenguin, indeed. :)  I would prefer it on tty 4 myself!  Who needs 6 tty's ?00:24
Melissa2012iceroot: trying to understand properly, out of interest :)00:24
Melissa2012iceroot: im a slow learner, sory :(00:24
edbianMelissa2012, you've learned.  Now install!00:24
edbian:)00:24
Melissa2012edbian:  :-)00:24
DrPenguinedbian: exactly, Ive reduced my system to 2, and made the non X one a non root login shell to prevent intrusion00:24
Melissa2012iceroot: it wasn't 50 times, i was told 26 times :-)00:24
icerootMelissa2012: ah ok :) then everything is fine and you have 24 times left :)00:25
DrPenguinfor i in {1..24}; do; echo "Melissa2012: use 64bit!"; done00:25
DrPenguindone00:25
Melissa2012mongy: look what google found for me :-)  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/install-clonezilla-on-usb/00:26
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Melissa2012iceroot: :-)00:26
mongyMelissa2012: I use it on usb too, on the same external hd I dump the images to00:26
icerootMelissa2012: you can use a normal ubuntu-livecd for clonezilla00:26
kzmanwhat does packages the «Basic Ubuntu server» task have?00:27
edbianMelissa2012, did you figure out why that link you posted said you could only use 4Gb with that proc?00:27
iceroothm, what is the metapackage for the server-edition?00:28
icerooti though it was "ubuntu-server"00:28
mongyMelissa2012: it's just a script (a good one) for partimage/partclone, so yes, you could run those commands in another distro.00:29
thomedythis suks i cant find a concrete answer to setting up my wireless00:29
thomedywhen i hit ping it says network unreachable00:30
edbianthomedy, whats your concrete question?00:30
lwizardlHello, doesn anyone know why my firefox browser version 9.01 running on Ubuntu. Every 5-10 minutes always pops back up to be the active window on the screen? I have removed all the addons and extensions and it still does the same thing.00:30
DrPenguinthomedy: whats the issue00:30
edbianthomedy, does sudo iwlist scan   show you wifi networkis?00:30
edbiannetworks*00:30
thomedyokay... i have gotten to i think the dhclient but i dont know what address to if_name on the ubuntu help pages00:31
thomedyi actually did the iwlist scan00:31
edbianthomedy, what did iwlist scan say?00:31
thomedyits ipv6 i think or at least inet600:31
lalagirlhi everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!00:31
thomedylet me run it again00:31
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edbianlalagirl, hello...00:31
edbianthomedy, it should list wifi networks00:31
bazhanglalagirl, no need for all the !00:31
lalagirlhi edbian  how are you?00:31
lalagirlI'm sorry if that bothers you bazhang00:32
edbianlalagirl, fine, you got a question?00:32
bazhanglalagirl, do you have an ubuntu support question?00:32
DrPenguinoh Man, lalagirl is beying very explanitory00:32
edbianbazhang, I asked her first!!!00:32
DrPenguins/explanitory/explanatory/00:32
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thomedyi did it earlier and it gave me wlan- info now it is giving me no scan  results00:32
lalagirli don't have a question right now, i'm here to help answer questions… lol00:33
edbianthomedy, are you in range of any wifi networks?00:34
thomedyi really want to get to admin status on linux cuz i want to run my own servers00:34
thomedyyeah00:34
edbianthomedy, what card is this?00:34
edbianthomedy, what wifi card?00:34
thomedy+crap i forget the command one sec i just ran that00:34
edbianthomedy, sudo lspci -k   you could pastebin it: paste.ubuntu.com00:35
thomedyar5001 wireless afrom atheros00:35
thomedyyeah i found it00:35
thomedywell that will take me a very long time because my linux machine is not connected im typing and typing but i will do it00:36
thomedyi have to hit paste bin on this machine and then type what i see onmy other machine00:36
edbianthomedy, what driver is currently installed?  what others are available?00:36
Chipzzzi have i have onieric on a desktop and USB headphones to keep the neighbors happy. The headphones disappear from the USB bus after about an hour... anybody know how to fix it?00:36
thomedyis there a good website i could learn from on a later time i want to be better at linux00:37
ZopiacIs there any way to have someone SSH onto your computer without port forwarding?00:37
thomedyit says ethernet atheros ar 500100:37
DrPenguinZopiac: I dont believe so00:38
thomedyor ath5k00:38
ZopiacDrPenguin: Pity.00:38
DrPenguinZopiac: why cant you port forward?00:38
thomedy5k is the driver and ar is the controller00:38
thomedysorry00:38
thomedyi have alot to learn about networking i want to get it cuz its powerful00:38
ZopiacDrPenguin: Landlord owns router connecting through00:38
DrPenguinZopiac: hack in, heel never know ^^00:39
thomedythat is actually the only ethernet i see00:39
thomedyoh wait there is a nother00:39
boi believe i have filled up my entire sda5 where karmic is installed, and i want to completely free up space on that partition...00:40
thomedyr8169 by realtek00:40
ZopiacDrPenguin: I don't have direct access to the router (trying to get this for my brother, a few states away) but otherwise I would00:40
bo i tried "sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean" and it returned all 0s (meaning that there were no (unneeded) packages to clean i think)...00:40
bo i also tried "du -sh.*" in the /home directory and got a bunch of "permission denied"00:40
bocan anybody help please?00:40
DrPenguinbo: generally speaking, unless your root (but I could be wrong) you cant poke around in other peoples home dirs00:41
boi have not tried 'rm' because i am not sure how to use it / where to use it00:41
DrPenguinbo: dont start blindly rming stuff, you will render your system poop00:41
bodrpenguin: how do you suggest i free up space (i don't need ANY data on that sda5 partition)?00:42
Chief_Gcan office 2010 be run under ubuntu using wine?00:42
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DrPenguinbo: what is on sda5?00:42
lalagirlHello everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now I have an Apple notebook and I was thinking about dual booting Mac OS X and Ubuntu. Is there a guide for that somewhere?00:42
bo9.10 karmic00:42
Chipzzzbo: you could reformat the partition00:42
bazhangChief_G, check the appdb00:42
DrPenguinlalagirl: is it an intel or ppc mac?00:42
totemlalagirl, yay, mac00:43
lalagirlDrPenguin it's a brand new intel core i700:43
bazhang!appdb | Chief_G00:43
ubottuChief_G: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help00:43
bochipzzz: yeah... i'm hesistant to do so...what would be the best way to do that? i have the 9.10 installation cd00:43
lalagirltotem lol you have a mac as well?00:43
lalagirltotem I love Mac OS X00:43
DrPenguinlalagirl: ok, then your gonna need to be careful, supposidly there is an issue in 11.04+ where ubuntu borks the efi partition and some people have needed their macs lobos replaced (I ifnd that to be bs but meh)00:43
lalagirlDrPenguin Maybe I'll just run a virtual machine00:44
DrPenguinlalagirl: the simplest way to go about this would be to install rEFIt, then, using bootcamp, partition your system and install it on that pt, root and all00:44
Chipzzzbo: is your system installed to sda5?00:44
DrPenguinlalagirl: VM is mucho safer, esp if you dont need significant hw acceleration00:44
bokarmic yes, but windows on sda1 and sda 200:44
Chipzzzbo: you could just reinstall if you have no data that you care about00:45
bochipzzz: using the installation cd? i think that's where i messed up in the first place when i installed it... because i had up to sda12 i think, and i deleted all of them except windows partitions... so i need to figure out how to properly install karmic on a partition so that the partition is not 100% used (1967636)00:46
lalagirlOkay I'll buy VMWare Fusion, right? http://store.vmware.com/store?Action=DisplayPage&Env=BASE&Locale=en_US&SiteID=vmware&id=ProductDetailsPage&productID=165310200&resid=Tv5bcgoBAlgAADo9DdsAAAAw&rests=132529239904800:47
DrPenguinlalagirl: lol dont pay for Fusion00:47
digitardgtorrentviewer doesn't install on 64bit, any alternatives?00:47
lalagirlDrPenguin what do you mean?00:47
DrPenguinlalagirl: you can use VMWare Server for Free, or Virtual Box00:47
crazymarinethere are open source vm clients00:47
DrPenguinif you had to pay for a Hypervisor, then id go with Workstation.. im gonna buy a license before I graduate from school00:47
Kitendigitard, Transmission ?00:47
lalagirlDrPenguin does it run on mac?00:48
Kitendigitard, vuze, Deluge00:48
DrPenguinlalagirl: ofcourse00:48
aBoundcrazymarine, If by VM you mean virtualization there is a tool called: Virtualbox.00:48
Chief_Gthe wine app is often outdated and does not accurately reflects the progress made by individuals that don't bother to update the database00:48
Kitendigitard,  oh nvm00:48
aBoundlalagirl, :P00:48
edbianWhy does VLC often not synchronize audio and video when player movies?00:48
crazymarinehttps://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads00:49
Chipzzzbo: if the deleted partitions (now free space) are contiguous you can reinstall with / at sda5 and /home in a new partition in the free space... there are advantages to keep / and /home on separate partitions00:49
lalagirlDrPenguin it says vmware vcenter server is over $2000!!!!!!!00:49
Kitenedbian, uhh might not be vlc's fault maybe the video and audio aren't synced in the video00:49
DrPenguinlalagirl: thats not VMWare Server00:49
edbianKiten, mmm, perhaps00:49
lalagirlhey aBound !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i missed you, how are you? ready for new years eve?00:49
DrPenguinlalagirl: thats probably something along the lines of VSphere00:49
lalagirlhttp://store.vmware.com/store/vmware/en_US/DisplayProductDetailsPage/productID.23386790000:50
DrPenguinlalagirl: yeah thts for VSphere, thats a management service for ESX(i)00:50
bochipzzz: i am not sure what you are saying00:50
shankysv87i can't seem to get software to stay launched when they are working via wine.00:50
DrPenguinhttp://www.vmware.com/products/server/overview.html00:50
thomedy`on the ubuntu wireless trouble shoot page it says to ype lshw and look for claimed unclamed enabled and disabled... i dont have any of that00:50
fokklelalagirl, probably want to skip that version unless you've got a server with ~32GB of mem lying around somewhere.00:50
aBoundlalagirl, Hope something good comes out of new years.00:51
Kitenedbian, try another video player if its synced then its with VLC00:51
edbianKiten, good point00:51
edbianKiten, thanks00:51
shankysv87i need help with wine  1.300:51
aBoundlalagirl, Missed you too but I'll be right back.00:51
Chipzzzbo: right now, if I understand, you have two Windows partitions, ubuntu on sda5, and a bunch of free space, right?00:51
bochipzzz: i think i just want to install the basics... not sure about the advantages... just want to be able to use it00:51
Kitenedbian, no problem :P00:52
bochipzzz: i used "df" and got under "use" 100% for sda5 and 48% for sda1 (windows)00:52
bochipzzz: yes, except i don't know about the free space00:52
bochipzzz: and i think ubuntu is taking up sda 6 also?00:53
lalagirlDrPenguin it says VMWare vSphere is a paid product00:53
lalagirlhttp://www.vmware.com/products/datacenter-virtualization/server/compare.html00:53
aBoundBack had to add the minimize/maximize buttons to my gnome-shell. Blah I don't understand why they aren't there by default.00:53
ubuntuser1hello, is there any application for parental control to restrict access to websites?00:53
DrPenguinlalagirl: yeah.. but i told you NOT to use VSphere00:53
bazhanglalagirl, and not what you want, at all.00:53
bazhang!VM | lalagirl please have a careful read00:53
ubottulalagirl please have a careful read: There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications00:53
BalthazarAnyone know how to restore the floating menu with the undo history in GIMP? I accidentally closed it.:-(00:54
bazhang!virtualbox | lalagirl and this too, please00:54
ubottulalagirl and this too, please: Virtualbox is a virtualizer for x86 and amd64 architectures. It's available in the package "virtualbox" in the !repositories, and you can download the Virtualbox Extension Pack for additional, non-Free functionality at http://virtualbox.org . Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox00:54
lalagirlbazhang I'm on a mac...00:54
jerandoes anyone know if ATI Radeon x1200 works well on Mint 11 os00:54
bazhanglalagirl, and ? vbox runs on MACS00:54
Chipzzzbo: if you run "sudo parted" you can see what the partitioning looks like00:55
bochipzzz: when i am logged in? just type "sudo parted"?00:55
nixninehey guys, I am getting the following error on startup, something about "Invalid Environment Block".  anyone help with that?00:55
thomedyif i toggle ifconfig down/up00:55
thomedy i get scan back00:55
ubuntuser1hello, is there a way to avoid the logon screen where the password has to be typed? I just updated to 11.10 and I had the pc to login automatically00:56
thomedyit seems like a bug00:56
bochipzzz: i can only access the command line00:56
shankysv87where can i get help with wine?00:56
lalagirlvirtualbox does not support aero if I were to run windows on mac00:56
bazhanglalagirl, and how is that related to UBUNTU support00:56
DrPenguinthats a good point00:57
bazhanglalagirl, try #vbox00:57
nixnineI am running ubuntu 11.10 from a 16 gb flashdrive.00:57
lalagirlthat means virtualbox might have limited capabilities when running other operating systems00:57
DrPenguinnixnine: that kinda smells of a filesystem issue00:57
fokkleBalthazar, which menu?  are you talking about the layers applet?00:57
lalagirlsuch as ubuntu00:57
Chipzzzbo: parted is the command line version of gparted (disk manager)00:58
DrPenguinlalagirl: it has nothing to do with the platform.. its the implementation of the hypervisor00:58
lalagirlwhat does ubuntu use? GNOME or something?00:58
Balthazarfokkle: yeah, that one00:58
lalagirlwhat's hypervisor?00:58
bazhanglalagirl, yet this is all theoretical, and vbox runs fine. try it and we can troubleshoot. no telling with what if's00:58
DrPenguina Hypervisor is the application(s) that allow you to run multiple OS's00:58
fokkleBalthazar:  hit ctrl+L00:58
bochipzzz: so... when i am logged in? just type "sudo parted"?00:58
Balthazarfokkle: Gracias!00:58
Chipzzzbo: yes00:59
DrPenguinfor example, VMWare Workstation is the ideal Hypervisor software for supporting 3dGraphics and gaming, whereas ESX(i) is more towards enterprise level computing00:59
aBoundVirtualbox has seamless windows which is nice.00:59
ubuntuser1hello, is there a way to avoid the logon screen where the password has to be typed? I used to have the pc to login automatically and now it asks for password00:59
nixnineWell, I can still boot into the system.  I read it is a grub issue and can be resolved.00:59
w_anyone using gnome-shell?00:59
bochipzzz: ok, and after i see what it looks like, then what?00:59
nixnineI am and love it00:59
aBoundw_, I'm using gnome-shell.00:59
Chipzzzbo: "help" gives you the list of commands and "print all" shows you the partitions00:59
lalagirlhow much memory does the virtual machine need to run windows?00:59
lalagirli mean01:00
lalagirlubuntu01:00
|Slacker|how do I get info about my cpu?01:00
DrPenguinlalagirl: id say "comfortably" atleast a gig01:00
DrPenguinslack-m: cat /proc/cpuinfo01:00
nixninebut is 11.10 using grub2?01:00
bochipzzz: so i should be able to manipulate the partitions from "sudo parted"?01:00
w_nixnine u know how to put the upgrade count next the hour on the top panel?01:00
Chipzzzbo: yes, absolutely01:00
lalagirli'm assuming windows uses a lot more memory01:00
|Slacker|thanks....I was doing it the wrong way lol01:00
bochipzzz: ok thanks.... i'm going to try01:00
nixninesorry, no.01:00
fokklelalagirl: if vista or 7, 1.5 to 2.0GB01:00
w_thanks01:01
Chipzzzbo: my pleasure and good luck01:01
aBoundI'm using Ubuntu and it's consuming about 800MBs.01:01
lalagirlfokkle okay thanks01:01
lalagirlaBound and are you running anything?01:01
aBoundOn my 16GB laptop.01:01
fokkleyou can make it on 1gb but it will be so-so01:01
lalagirlaBound are you running any programs/applications01:01
aBoundlalagirl, Nothing really just gnome-shell and xchat.01:01
lalagirlaBound oh okay… thanks01:01
aBoundlalagirl, Oh yeah and synapse.01:01
aBound:P01:01
shankysv87where can i go to get help with wine?01:03
DrPenguinwinehq.org01:03
shankysv87ty01:03
dr_willis!wine01:03
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu01:03
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lalagirlI decided to buy VMware Fusion 4 for Mac, mainly because it is designed specifically for the Mac platform. This might give some performance boost or something...01:04
bazhang!ot | lalagirl01:05
ubottulalagirl: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!01:05
nixninethis a supposed answer.  Can someone look at it and tell me what they think?  http://pastebin.com/6XHitd8R01:05
ubuntuser1hello, is there a way to avoid the logon screen where the password has to be typed? I used to have the pc to login automatically and now it asks for password01:05
|Slacker|is there any issues running a 32 bit OS on a 64  bit cpu?01:05
lalagirlbazhang it's not off topic… I'm trying to run Ubuntu using VM software01:05
DrPenguin|Slacker|: i dont think so01:06
bazhang|Slacker|, nope01:06
DrPenguinyou just wont get all the 64bit goodness01:06
bazhanglalagirl, please proceed with any and all support questions here; chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please01:06
|Slacker|it's my first experience with a 64 bit cpu but it's an old laptop01:06
lalagirl|Slacker| not at all… you just won't utilize the true capabilites that 64bit software offers… also you won't be able to run 64bit software on a 32bit operating system01:07
Kiten[Slacker] nope there is none you just can't run 64bit applications01:07
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|Slacker|:)01:07
lalagirlbazhang don't be rude. :)01:07
Kitenand you can't gain the benefits of more than 4gb of rams01:07
|Slacker|thanks people01:07
Kiten*ram01:07
|Slacker|this lappy has only 512mb ram01:07
|Slacker|11.10 is kind sluggish here01:08
dr_willis|Slacker|:  may be worth using Lubuntu on it then.01:08
DrPenguin|Slacker|: oo.. you may not want to use ubuntu.. maybe Lubuntu is better01:08
Kitenmy eyesight is getting worse everyday01:08
DrPenguinLXDE requires mucho less resources01:08
KitenFluxbox is Super lightweight01:08
lalagirl!Lubuntu01:08
ubottulubuntu is a project to create a derivative of Ubuntu using the LXDE desktop environment. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu . /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.01:08
thomedycan someone tell me if this makes sense i think i may have wrapped my head around a possible problem01:09
|Slacker|thanks...gonna give lubuntu a try01:09
Kiten!fluxbox01:09
ubottufluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox01:09
DrPenguinit doenst have all that extra junk in popular OS's like ubuntu or kubuntu01:09
ubuntuser1what is the minimum amount of recommended ram a pc needs to run lubuntu?01:09
thomedyi have a broken battery so my card is in power saving mode01:09
thomedyall the time01:09
DrPenguinubuntuser1: id say 25601:09
lalagirlDrPenguin what "junk" do popular operating systems have?01:09
thomedydoes that make sense01:09
DrPenguinlalagirl: just all those extra applications and stuff01:09
Kitenlalagirl, preloaded applications01:10
DrPenguinthomedy: broken battery? like.. laptop battery or cmos battery?01:10
dr_willisLubuntu is getting decently feature complete for getting 'work' done.01:10
thomedyno just the batter01:10
Melissa2012edbian: you here?01:10
thomedyim fairly certain cmos is fine01:10
DrPenguinthomedy: WHAT battery01:10
lalagirlubuntuser1, according to the website, it says "System requirements01:10
lalagirlA Pentium II or Celeron system with 128 MB of RAM is probably a bottom-line configuration that may yield slow yet usable system with Lubuntu. It should be possible to install and run Lubuntu with less memory, but the result will likely not be suitable for practical use."01:10
thomedythe power source on my laptop01:10
Melissa2012edbian: im installing Ubuntu, should I select that mp3 audio box?01:10
thomedyi keep it plugged in al lthe time but the computer registers it as very low no matter what01:11
Melissa2012edbian: something about installing flash and audio codecs?  should I select it?01:11
DrPenguinthomedy: ok so laptop battery, and no that doesnt make sense.. unless your laptops CMOS is retained by your laptop battery which some laptops do that01:11
Melissa2012anyone?01:11
thomedywell i gues i dont know if that is the case01:11
Kitenspeaking of batteries i have to ask why does the battery monitor take a minute to update ?01:11
Melissa2012DrPenguin: ?01:11
ubuntuser1is tehre any way to override the login screen when loading ubuntu? I updated from 10.04 to 11.10 and I used to have it without the login screen01:11
DrPenguinKiten: dunno, I use conky for monitoring battery01:12
andygraybealis there a better 'mail' program at the command prompt?  i want to read the local system mail, but the 'mail' program seems uhg.01:12
Kitenyeah thats what i'm using01:12
thomedydang it this is driving me crzyi think the problem that im running into.. is wlan0 is turning itself off01:12
DrPenguinKiten: oh? you should be able to tell conky how often to poll01:12
dr_willisubuntuser1:  you mean auto-login?01:12
ubuntuser1dr_willis, yes :)01:12
KitenDrPenguin, yeah but i think 0.5 is quite often01:12
dr_willis!autologin01:13
dr_willisubuntuser1:  lightdm has that feature i belive01:13
boanybody know how i can properly use "sudo parted"?01:13
KitenDrPenguin, you wouldn't by chance know how to set up gauges would you ?01:13
bo*how i can learn how to01:13
dr_willisbo:  you are looking for a parted tutorial or 2 you mean?01:13
Melissa2012dr_willis: something about installing flash and audio codecs?  should I select it?01:13
DrPenguinKiten: if I had it, id just look at my conkyrc, but my laptops been in the shop for almost a month (DEATH TO GEEK SQUAD)01:13
ubuntuser1dr_willis, sorry but I have no idea what is that. Is it a command or a program? or a config option?01:13
lalagirl!info lightdm01:13
ubottulightdm (source: lightdm): Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.6-0ubuntu1.2 (oneiric), package size 95 kB, installed size 428 kB01:13
bodr: tutorial, sure01:13
dr_willishttp://www.gnu.org/software/parted/manual/html_chapter/parted_2.html01:14
dr_willisi tend to use other tools01:14
KitenDrPenguin, aww man if you live in east TN dude i coulda fixed it for free01:14
ubuntuser1dr_willis, lalagirl, DrPenguin, thanks :)01:14
dr_willisbo:  gparted, fdisk, or cfdisk is what i tend to use. but parted has other features01:14
KitenGeek Squad is about as smart as a desktop publishing teacher01:14
lalagirlMelissa2012 if you want, you could01:14
DrPenguinKiten: I could of fixed it to, but I would of had to pay for a new mobo which since its uner a 3 year warranty I aint gonna do that01:14
DrPenguinKiten: oh I know, I used to be an Agent01:15
lalagirlMelissa2012 i would select it01:15
lalagirlMelissa2012 it's optional01:15
Kitenyeah bestbuy usually suckers you into geeksquad01:15
lalagirlubuntuser1 anytime. :)01:15
DrPenguinI just got it because I got an insane discount on it01:15
bodr_willis: ty, but i can only access command line because the sda5 that my karmic is installed on apparently is only 2.136 GB which gave an error status of 256 i think01:15
KitenDrPenguin, ().()01:15
DrPenguinits a good idea to have it versus paying for parts on your own.. if the darn service was decent01:15
dr_willisbo:  cfdisk is easier to use then fdisk, or parted. but it depends on your needs01:16
DrPenguinfdisk is easy to use >_>01:16
bodr: or my options lol01:16
Kitenbo: if you have spare flash drive you can install gparted on to it and boot it live if your mobo supports it01:16
aBoundI'm off have a good one. :)01:16
Kitenlater ;)01:17
bokiten: wouldn't command line be easier? from quickly looking at the list of commands, it seems like all i would have to do is move or resize... properly of course01:17
Melissa2012lalagirl: i did01:18
downloaderCan anyone confirm that sopcast-player works for them? http://code.google.com/p/sopcast-player/downloads/detail?name=sopcast-player-0.7.2.tar.gz&can=2&q=01:18
lalagirlMelissa2012 that's great! :)01:18
cleanAnybody using nixnote ?01:18
fokklebo: i've used parted.  how do you need to set up the disk?01:18
Kitenbo uhh no you should use gparted its much safer01:18
DrPenguinbo: you may as well just grab SystemRescueCD01:19
DrPenguinit includes gparted, plus some other awesome tools for system repair and recovery01:19
lalagirldownloader you want us to download and test if sopcast-player works?01:19
downloaderlalagirl: :)01:19
boi have 400 GB on my hard drive and i want to allocate about 150 GB to windows (my parents use that) and have the rest for karmic01:19
Melissa2012why is the install saying "wiping swap space for security, this may take a long time"?01:20
z7is there a way to create custom grub entries which start defferent sets of services, like some livecd that have several boot options in the grub menu such as 'no network' 'to ram' etc01:20
DrPenguinMelissa2012: a swap drive is similar to a paging file.. if theres any data in there that wasnt wiped hen it was being used, it could cause issues01:20
lalagirlMelissa2012, it may take a while...01:20
Melissa2012:(01:20
Melissa2012we talking hours?01:21
fokklebo:  so you don't have 150GB unallocated, but need to shrink something....  in that case, they're certainly right.  just download the iso for gparted and do the shrinking from the livecd.01:21
lalagirlMelissa2012 probably01:21
lalagirlMelissa2012 some people reported that it took hours … is there a way you can skip it?01:21
fokklebo: it'll be much safer than trying to resize while your existing system is running.01:21
boah ok01:21
Melissa2012lalagirl: no its' OK it finisghed wiping and now is contiuong the install :)01:21
dr_willisgparted has its own live-cd that just does gparted. makes it small download. and quick to boot.01:22
Melissa2012I have a laptop with a Nivida video card.  how I install the drivers for the video card?01:22
lalagirlMelissa2012 okay, that's great! nice. you're installing Ubuntu 11.10?01:22
Melissa2012lalagirl: the latest01:22
Melissa2012lalagirl: just downloaded it today01:22
lalagirlMelissa2012 you can install the drivers after Ubuntu is finished installing01:22
bofokkle: ...but for example, on # 3, there is 195 GB (it is extended) and i am not using that (but it shows up)01:22
lalagirlMelissa2012 i'll show you how when you're done installing Ubuntu01:22
Melissa2012lalagirl: how do I install the nvidia video drivers afterwards?01:22
shankysv87doesn't seem like anyone is currently online in #winehq so asking in here...01:22
downloaderShouldn't girls be doing something else on Friday night?01:22
Melissa2012lalagirl: ok :-)01:23
Melissa2012lalagirl: you going to be on for awhile?01:23
lalagirlMelissa2012 you basically go to the software center and download this package that will allow you to use Nvidia graphics technology01:23
shankysv87programs refuse to stay open after installation...01:23
Melissa2012downloader: lalagirl and I are having a girls night out, installing ubuntu :-)01:23
lalagirlMelissa2012 I'll be here for a little while01:23
Melissa2012lalagirl: cool brb01:23
lalagirlMelissa2012 okay :)01:23
shankysv87they install just fine but then as soon as i try to open them, they close immediately after01:23
eggman2001what command can I use to view a log file, but if I want to start at the end?01:24
bofokkle: so couldn't i just move the 3rd partition to sda5 using sudo parted?01:24
ryan_8432i have a agateway ma7 and i recently installed ubuntu 11.10 and my wireless isnt being recognized by ubuntu but the wireless light on my laptop is on.01:24
lalagirldownloader we're an inteligent female species… we can do whatever we want on Friday night01:24
lalagirldownloader *wink*01:24
thomedyokay im googling... but i quit... im officially asking... please someon walk me through the process of setting up my wireless again01:25
Melissa2012lalagirl: that was quick, it's installed already and now rebooting.01:25
bolalagirl: how is "intelligent" related to being female (in the context of what u do tonight)01:25
bazhanglalagirl, thats enough.01:26
lalagirlbazhang what's enough?01:26
DrPenguinubuntu using female? now I needs me one of them.. thomedy what is your problem?01:26
bazhanglalagirl, the offtopic chit chat is not for here.01:26
bolol @ drpenguin01:26
thomedy well i will say the macro then try to work it to the micro... macro: stumped, frustrated, and ill equipped, micro:01:27
thomedyi have a wireless that was set up01:27
thomedybut it turned itself off01:27
thomedyand i tried googling and fixing it... i cant find much01:27
thomedythat is working at least01:27
lalagirlbazhang if you really have something against me, you don't have to express it openly. you can send a private message instead01:28
thomedyi can toggle ifconfig down/up01:28
Melissa2012lalagirl: ok its finished, whats next? :)01:28
thomedyand get my scan back on iwlist scan but it turns itself off again01:28
thomedysometimes almost immediately01:28
DrPenguinthomedy: have ya looked at dmesg to see whats going on?01:28
thomedyi will do taht now i  have never tryied that one sec please01:29
ryan_8432how do i figure out why ubuntu isnt detecting my wireless card?01:29
thomedywoh thats big what did i just do error logging of some sort01:29
DrPenguinthomedy: dmesg is a command that dumps you the kernel logs01:30
Melissa2012lalagirl: I have a problem. My wireless router doesnt show up,. why?01:30
thomedythe bottom message in my dmessg says addrconf(netdev_up) wlan0 link is not ready01:30
shankysv87ryan_8432, might want to check to see if its loading the drivers... i had that problem a while back.01:31
DrPenguincan ya pastebin your dmesg?01:31
ryan_8432shankysv87, how do i check that?01:31
thomedyi wish... the machine is not connected ata ll01:31
shankysv87i have to check. give me a minute to look. I'm rather new to linux myself...01:32
thomedyokay it says deathenticating from (add) by local choice reason=301:32
thomedyim going to see what i can find on that01:32
shankysv87ryan_8432, have terminal open?01:32
thomedyi think taht might be key and it is the log right above the last01:32
Melissa2012i found my wireless router, connected, but ubuntu keeps saying it's been disconnected :(01:33
bois anybody familiar with using sudo parted to reallocate partition space?01:33
SamplingSundayI am running ubuntu 10.04 and am trying to install a new graphics driver. But, I need to uninstall a old graphics driver to do this? How do I do this? Google has failed me. :(01:33
boi was thinking about moving space from an extended partition to the one that i am running 9.10 on01:34
dr_willisSamplingSunday:  tell the channel  what drivers, what card, what have you tried01:34
Melissa2012i cant connect properly to my wireless router.  Is the wireless in ubuntu buggy?01:37
brandonI wouldn't say so, it works fine for me.01:37
Melissa2012my windows laptop can connect no problems but when I try ubuntu it fails01:37
brandonhmm, I'm a newb at all this so you should probably ignore me lol01:38
mongygood luck men with your ardous task...  I'm to bed.01:38
SamplingSundaydr_willis: The driver I am trying to install is the proprietary ati-driver 11-12-x86.x86_64, it is for a radeon hd 5450.  The driver I need to uninstall is aparently an older fglrx driver.  I deactivated it from 'Administration' > 'Hardware Drivers', but that didn't work as I got the same message as before.01:38
SamplingSundayI just don't know how to uninstall. :/01:39
mongySamplingSunday: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide#Removing_Catalyst.2Ffglrx then see http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide#Installing_Catalyst_Manually_.28from_AMD.2FATI.27s_site.2901:39
SamplingSundayThank you mongy! :D01:40
SamplingSundayMy google-foo is off pretty bad if I couldn't find that. >.<01:40
mongySamplingSunday: it's pretty thorough.  just copy paste01:41
SamplingSundayawesome thank you!01:41
dr_williscopy, paste, pray01:41
SamplingSundaylol pretty much01:41
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Melissa2012it seems wireless is buggy. I tried 8-9 times to connect to wireless router before it finally connected01:41
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Melissa2012i told it to install flash support at install, but flash dont work01:44
dr_willishow did you install flash?01:44
Melissa2012dr_willis: when i did a brand new install, it asked me if I wanted to select flash mp3 support and I chose yes01:46
dr_willisMelissa2012:  that works for me.. :) but often flash can be flakey on some sites.01:47
Melissa2012dr_willis: firefox claims I need flash, so what do I do?01:48
KitenMelissa2012, in terminal sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer (i think lemme check)01:49
Kitenyeah thats it01:49
benntalking about flash, how can i find the flash files in .mozzila/firefox/xxxx.default/cache? fast?01:50
bennnot video files01:50
benni mean video files01:50
Kitenor go to youtube in firefox and when it prompts you to install plugins click it01:50
bennflv's01:50
Kitenbenn :P made your mind up yet ?01:50
bennKiten01:51
benni did but..01:51
Melissa2012how do u reboot?  no reboot anywhere?  only shut down, hibernate etc01:51
Melissa2012Kiten: ty01:51
KitenMelissa2012, there is a power icon in the top right corner01:51
Kitenif it doesn't show up01:51
benni want the real flv files that videos produce in tmp from players in firefox01:51
KitenApplications->Accessories->terminal and type sudo reboot01:51
itaylor57Melissa2012, chose shutdown and a reboot button will appear01:52
Melissa2012Kiten: yes and it only shows suspend, hibernate and shut down, but no reoobt01:52
Melissa2012itaylor57: ok weird :P01:52
Kitenthen choose shutdown it should ask to reboot or shutdown01:52
bennKiten i heard first there where in Filesystem/tmp but after the old flash 10 they where moved in firefox cache.. but i cant find them01:52
Kitenbenn give me a sec i'm a bit rusty at find01:53
lalagirlHello.01:53
Melissa2012Kiten: where do I type?01:53
Kitenin terminal ?01:53
Melissa2012where is terminal?01:53
Kitengoto applications then under accesories then click terminal01:54
smitherwickHey lala01:54
Kitenapplications is in the top left corner01:54
Melissa2012Kiten: nope. only dash home01:54
Melissa2012no aaplications01:54
KitenMelissa2012, 11.04 ?01:55
bennKin dash home search terminals01:55
lalagirlMelissa2012 press CTRL+ALT+T for terminal01:55
Melissa2012Kiten: trhe latest01:55
Melissa2012lalagirl: ok01:55
bennKiten a second past01:55
Kitenbenn :P one minute bud i'm looking01:55
bennsure01:56
VilemaximI accidentally killed a partition table using parted mklabel gpt. It warned me, but I thought I was pointing to a different drive. Anyway, anyone know the changes of recovery the original partition table?01:57
OlognVilemaxim: A file system usually contains multiple superblocks01:58
Kitenbenn give me a minute installing a faster method :P01:59
VilemaximI didn't mess with the filesystems, but I'm not sure what gpt does to a disk compared to the old system01:59
bennKiten:Awesome01:59
bennKiten:Will you use a script?01:59
Kitengnome-do02:00
Kiten:P super fast searching02:00
bennKiten:lemmi check02:00
Kitenuhhm well i can't seem to find any02:01
bennahha its difficult02:01
Kitenyou sure they still store locally02:01
Kitenare you wanting to download videos ?02:02
Kitenerr get videos02:02
bennsince it stream..it must store it somethere02:02
bennsomewhere*02:02
Kitenit caches parts at a time02:02
Kitenso most likely it will be all .PARTS or something like that02:03
bennyeah seems so..02:03
Kitenthere is a screen recorder i forgot what its called that you can use to record parts of your screen02:03
bennwhat is the screen recorder name02:04
bazhang!screencast | Kiten one of these?02:04
ubottuKiten one of these?: Some programs to capture your screen are recordmydesktop, Istanbul, Wink, Xvidcap, pyvnc2swf.  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts.02:04
bennok02:04
bennyou forgot02:04
KitenXvidCap should work02:04
Kitenrmd is pretty good too02:05
Kitenthanks Bazhang02:05
itaylor57Melissa2012, chose shutdown and a reboot button will appear02:05
bennhmm.. ok02:05
Melissa2012itaylor57: ok02:05
bennwhat is the best lunix video editor?02:06
pangolin!best02:06
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.02:06
bazhangbenn, there is not best02:06
Kitenbenn i'd recommend pitivi02:07
bennok okay02:07
kristianpaulHello02:07
bennthanks02:07
Kiteni would be wrong to say its the best but i definitely like it02:07
Kitenbenn if your running kde kdenlive is decent too02:07
kristianpaulWhat's the proper way to boostrap centos in ubuntu?02:07
bennyeah..02:08
boi like pitivi and open shot... depends on what you're doing02:08
bennbo:just video trim and stuff02:08
bennKiten:gnome-do did not work :/02:11
bennKiten:for my need02:12
Kitenbenn yeah i know thats why i said i couldn't find any02:12
Kitencouldn't find any flv's on my comp02:13
bennKiten check this code i found02:14
bennhttp://pastebin.com/YzAZreu102:14
benndid'nt manage to make it work02:14
Kitenyeah thats because thoses xxxxx are in place of alphanumerics02:15
benni did change the xxxx02:15
Kiteni'd replace it with *02:15
Kiten* is a wildcard it can match anything even spaces02:16
bennKiten:ohh i see02:16
Kitenfirst time bash ?02:16
bennsort of.. but i am not bad in it02:17
DrPenguin[ $FIRSTTIME ] && echo "Welcome!"02:17
bennlemmi test the code again02:18
bennxD02:18
benndammit not working.. i  will try an other way maybe with screen capture02:21
Kitenrmd02:22
bennk02:23
mrdebhello02:25
bennKiten: i am not finding rmd(neither in apt-get install rmd or ubuntu software center)02:25
eduardohi, how can i set my laptop to ask for a password everytime a usb device is plugged in?02:25
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DrPenguineduardo: mmm.. my first guess would be to futz with the usb udev rule02:26
eduardoDrPenguin: what's that?02:26
KBentley57hey guys, has firefox 9 been released via update-manager for ubuntu 11.10 yet?02:26
pangolinyes02:26
DrPenguineduardo: udev is a system service that handles device changes, so, for example, you can have a udev rule for when you plug in devices that the system well perform certain actions02:27
eduardoDrPenguin: do you know how to set it up?02:27
KBentley57hmm, i can't seem to find get my update-manager to find it02:27
Moon_Doggyhow can i list whats in a directory in terminal02:27
KBentley57ls or dir02:27
Moon_Doggyty02:27
nitstormKBentley57: i assume not...02:27
DrPenguineduardo: via google, thats ur best bet02:27
pangolinKBentley57: it is in the proposed repo02:27
nitstormKBentley57: click on the unity button and type update button02:28
itsnotabigtruckis it possible to install ubuntu on a running linux system (that is, load the installer entirely into ram from the filesystem, boot into it, and install)02:28
nitstormKBentley57: I meant update manager, type update manager02:28
KBentley57nitstorm: do I need to add the repo?02:28
itsnotabigtruckthe idea is to change distros on a dedicated server with KVM access, but no way to attach a cd/usb drive02:28
nitstormKBentley57: for firefox 9 yes, you need to add the development PPA02:28
pangolinKBentley57: so, no it is not released yet but you can enable the proposed repository in software center02:28
ChipzzzKBentley57: I updated my onieric earlier today & my FF is still version 8, so I'd say probably not02:29
bennKiten :i found the way to pick my tmp files02:29
bennKiten :with wine and videocacheview.exe02:29
KBentley57pangolin: thanks!  just wanted to make sure I wasn't crazy.02:29
pangolinKBentley57: not completely :)02:29
Kitenbenn, ahh never used videocacheview02:30
KBentley57here is the ppa for anyone who wants ff9 with 11.1002:30
pangolinKBentley57: after enabling the repos run apt-get update; apt-get upgrade02:30
KBentley57http://shuffleos.com/4608/install-firefox-9-stable-release/02:30
bennyeah.02:30
eduardoDrPenguin: i didnt have any luck any other guesS?02:30
DrPenguineduardo: googles pretty big, i doubt you exhausted your search so quickly02:30
benni need to go now XMAS, and remember to watch Dark knight rises in summer02:31
Chipzzzeduardo: you could format the USB drives with encrypted file systems02:31
Kitenlater benn02:32
KBentley57itsnotabigtruck:  can you state the reason for changing distros?02:32
eduardoChipzzz: the thing is im a dj and i leave my laptop unsupervised for a lot of time, and i've had some trouble with ppl trying to steal my music with usb drives so i need a way to stop that02:32
widowcan someone help me with a problem with clementine music player?02:33
KBentley57eduardo:  lock the screen?02:33
KBentley57ask widow02:33
widowmy 'tag fetcher' freezes after a second or two and i have to kill clementine02:34
Chipzzzeduardo: I think KBently57 has the right idea02:34
KBentley57how large is your library?02:34
eduardoKBentley57: my music library?02:34
widowaround 50GB, but it does this even if i only select a single song02:35
KBentley57does it require internet access widow?02:35
widowyeah it does02:35
KBentley57eduardo: sorry, that was directed towards widow.  Do you think locking your screen would be sufficient?  or are you around people who troll parties wating for the dj to move :) ?02:36
KBentley57widow:  are you behind any sort of proxy?02:36
wax23hi02:36
widowKBentley57: no, nothing like that, and my internet access is fine otherwise02:36
webpragmatisthey guys ... i'm trying to partition my vm using fdisk and it seems to be limited to 1044 cylinders?02:37
webpragmatistthis doesn't equate to 8gb02:37
KBentley57widow:  do you know the host that it is trying to reach?  can you ping it from the terminal?02:37
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eduardoKBentley57: yeah locking the screen is fine it's just that i used to have the password popped when plugging a usb before but i can remember how to set it up again :/02:38
wax23i want fine someone who can told me how to get ip of someone in discussion02:38
wax23hi eduardo02:38
KBentley57eduardo:  so you used to have it set where you required a password to use a usb device?02:39
KBentley57whois wax2302:39
webpragmatisthttp://cl.ly/172Y1J3h1L2l1m1i2Y2w02:39
KBentley57or right click on their name02:39
eduardoKBentley57: yes02:39
eduardoKBentley57: usb flash memories02:39
wax23its sudo su eduardo02:40
widowKBentley57: it tries to access MusicBrainz which i can access fine outside of clementine02:40
eduardowax23: ??02:40
wax23the pass is sudo su02:40
KBentley57eduardo:  I did a quick google.  read over this and tell me if it is something like what you were wanting02:40
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KBentley57http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=146762902:40
KBentley57the pass is sudo su?02:41
wax23yes try02:41
wax23if its not try toor02:41
widowwhois widow02:41
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_rb_twice I have installed ubuntu 11.10 which installs ok but after I apply the updates then I get an uncompression error, system halted. Any ideas?02:45
widowgoogle the exact error message02:45
Resistance!google | widow02:46
ubottuwidow: While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.02:46
SamplingSundayHi everyone, I'm back, I followed this guide http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Lucid_Installation_Guide#Installing_the_drivers_manually in which everything works just fine, until I get to 'Generic Congiure' and I get a message telling me it does not recognize the 'aticonfig' command. What am I doing wrong here?02:47
KBentley57_rb_  can you provide a list of the hardware you are trying to install it on?02:47
freenodizhello!I have ubuntu as a desktop and now i have a ubuntu lucid 10.04 server.Question:what should i do to "remotely connect"?do i have to install x server?any special config?02:47
Resistancefreenodiz:  install openssh-server on the server.02:48
SamplingSundayEverything installed just fine in the guide.02:48
Resistancefreenodiz:  then ssh in02:48
KBentley57SamplingSunday:  did you try to install the latest driver from ati?02:48
SamplingSundayyes02:48
freenodizResistance:only this?02:48
_rb_KBentley57 It is a Sony VAIO (VGC-JS110J). BTW going back to previous versions works but Firefox does not.Installing Chromium now02:48
SamplingSundayKBentley57: yes that is what I am trying to do02:49
KBentley57SamplingSunday:  Did you first uninstall the prior fglrx driver?02:49
Resistancefreenodiz:  that'll allow you to interact via command line to the remote server.  most server installations dont have GUIs02:49
Resistancejust because02:49
SamplingSundayI followed the guide, and I ~sort of sure~ it uninstalled. :<02:49
ariel`does anybody know hot to create a zip file in ubuntu02:50
ResistanceSamplingSunday:  might i recommend you prefix the destination of your message with the target's username, like i did with this message?02:50
Resistance!zip02:50
ubottuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME), Ark (KDE), or Xarchiver (XFCE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression02:50
freenodizResistance,i know to ssh..i just asking exactly to install the gui in the server,and acess gnome remotelly02:50
wax23where is hacker s ubuntu02:50
freenodizgnome desktop02:50
KBentley57SamplingSunday:  Read the top part of the release notes from amd http://tinyurl.com/6q8zkjn02:51
KBentley57SamplingSunday:  It has always worked for me.  I don't create distro specific packages, I always do the generic install too02:51
SamplingSundayResistance: Sorry about that. And thank you KBentley57. :D02:51
freenodizResistance,do you understand what i;m trying to achive?02:52
Chipzzzfreenodiz: you can use "ssh -X [address]" to run X-server programs remotely02:52
KBentley57Updating AMD's drivers routinely makes me nervous..lol02:52
mrdebkbent, do u use the free or amd driver02:53
Resistancefreenodiz:  i understand, but ssh can do most of what you need.  you just need to learn commands.  and if you're installing a GUI, i cant  help ya unfortunately02:53
KBentley57SamplingSunday:  If at some point you feel like something is botched, you can always hit CTRL+ALT+F1 to get to a text login02:53
KBentley57i always use the amd binary blob02:53
freenodiz <Chipzzz> ,any good links how to do this step by step?  use "ssh -X [address]"02:53
mrdebis it stable now bentley02:53
KBentley57yeah, i haven't had any problems with it02:53
mrdebok02:54
mrdebso screen has no lines02:54
KBentley57well, I can say that my screen doesent02:54
KBentley57what card are you using?02:54
Chipzzzfreenodiz: fr'instance, to access nautilus on a machine in the local net, you might type "ssh -X 192.168.100.2", assuming that is the address of the machine02:55
mrdebidk but last time i tried it was lines across and freezing02:55
Chipzzzfreenodiz: once logged on, just type "nautilus" and it will pop up on the remote machine02:55
KBentley57can you remember what version you tried?02:56
mrdebno02:56
eiriksvinCan someone help me get my Netgear WNDA3100 USB Wifi adapter working? I have ndis and the driver installed, but nothing02:56
freenodizChipzzz,what about the server,should i have to install x in the lucid server?also,could i use openbox instead of gnome?any issues?02:57
vmangudi`freenodiz: you can also open a remote system's folder directly in Nautilus. Open ssh://<ip or url>/folder02:57
eiriksvinit gave and install error that was blank, it shows the device, but the lights won't light up anypne got a clue?02:57
KBentley57eiriksvin:  check this out, not sure if it is for you, but i found it in the first few of a search http://www.iheartubuntu.com/2010/10/netgear-wnda3100-usb-in-ubuntu.html02:58
itsnotabigtruckKBentley57: re the distro change thing, to go from debian i386 to ubuntu amd6402:58
itsnotabigtrucki think the provider might charge a fee for having them reimage it, so it would be better to try and reimage the disk online02:59
KBentley57itsnotabigtruck:  I see.  As far as i know, there is no way to upgrade to 64 bit from x86.  Also, I dont think you can mount the image in ram and have it survive a reboot02:59
freenodizChipzzz,thanks for the info mate..it sounds good to do it02:59
Chipzzzfreenodiz: freenodiz: the ssh server has to be installed on target machine but the client should already be installed on the remote (assuming it is also Ubuntu). I don't know about openbox but have used  NX with great success02:59
KBentley57itsnotabigtruck:  Just out of curiosity, is there a technical reason you wish to change distros?03:00
Chipzzzfreenodiz: my pleasure & good luck03:00
itsnotabigtruckKBentley57: yeah, mostly because debian squeeze is ancient, and the system has 4 gigs of ram so i386 won't cut it03:00
freenodizChipzzz ++03:00
itsnotabigtrucki was under the impression there's some way to load a kernel image, from a running installation03:00
KBentley57itsnotabigtruck:  does it have a pae kernel?03:00
itsnotabigtrucknot sure but that could be changed, though i'm under the impression pae is more than a bit limited03:01
_rb__rb_ After applying updates to Ubuntu 11.10 64 bit I get uncompression error when trying to boot normal or recovery mode. (Previous versions boots up but Firefox does not work)03:01
KBentley57_rb_ it sounds like it's downloading a currupted file of some sort03:02
KBentley57_rb_:  you said it was a clean install?03:02
mfroesi am trying to start an app on a vnc session by using " DISPLAY=:1 path/to/app" and i get this error: http://pastebin.com/LvEdKZNR03:03
_rb_Kventley57 clean install both times.03:03
boi was trying to remove a partition (3rd partition) from command line in sudo parted and it said i must unmount it before i modify it with Parted... so then i tried to figure out where it is mounted so that i can unmount it but could not find it... any help please?03:03
_rb_KBentley57 clean install both times.03:03
KBentley57bo:  check out /dev03:03
fokklebo:  you never found the mount point with the mount command?03:03
mrdebkbent what card do u have03:04
karol_hey03:04
KBentley57_rb_:  did the update try to install a different kernel?03:04
_rb_KBentley57 would a messed up grub cause that error?03:04
KBentley57I had two 4870's in xfire, but I just got a 6970 for christams, it's sweet03:04
bokbentley57: how to check out /dev?03:05
_rb_kbentley57 no, am thinking about installing 10 LTS.03:05
KBentley57bo: navigate to /dev and do a ls or dir listing03:05
book thanks03:05
KBentley57_rb_: so you can at least boot to the grub menu where you can choose normal boot or the recovery?03:06
Guest16105I am having problems with dovecot on ubuntu.   Apparently there is a bug report.03:06
eiriksvinKBentley57 still no go :(03:06
eduardohi, does anyone knows how to protect usb ports with password?03:06
Guest16105the current shipping version is 2.0.   Supposidly it will be fixed in 2.1.03:06
Chipzzzbo "df" will probably tell you what you want to know03:07
Guest16105Anyone know how to get the update?03:07
_rb_KBentley57 yes it boots to the grub menu. Normal or recovery fail with the uncompression error. Previous versions boots Ubunt (Where I am now)03:07
eiriksvindoes anyone know if Linksys dual band works on 11.10?03:07
DukerI'm having an unusual problem I think; when running java 7 for my minecraft server (vanilla) the java process has a status of 'sleeping' and the process sits at 0% most of the time.  I've been told this is a problem with Ubuntu and I wouldn't have it with Debian.  Any suggestions on how I could solve this problem? As I am used to Ubuntu and otherwise love it.03:07
KBentley57brb03:07
bochipzzz: including mount points?03:08
bomaybe i overlooked that03:08
Chipzzzbo: i think so... try "df -a"03:09
bowhat's -a?03:09
eduardohi, does anyone know how to protect usb ports with password? thanks!03:09
Chipzzzbo: -a = --all03:09
bochipzzz: ok thanks03:10
Chipzzzbo: good luck03:10
bogot some thingz 2 try now as i restart from windows to linux, yet again03:10
Chipzzzbo: ouch!03:10
bohaha03:11
Stanley00eduardo: I dont know, but why do you want that?03:11
robbbiehello, i just installed ubuntu on a new pc, sound isn't working from hdmi out on video card, can anyone point me in the right direction for debugging? 11.10 64bit03:11
KBentley57robbie:  do you have a video card? or else, what motherboard do you have?03:12
robbbieKBentley57: the video card is a radeon 6450, mobo is asus m5a9703:12
KBentley57robbie:  you need to use the amd binary blob driver, not the open source driver to have audio over hdmi at the moment03:13
robbbieKBentley57: thanks, do you have a link?03:13
KBentley57robbie:  yes, one sec03:13
DukerIs there any way to force a process from ever sleeping?03:13
Stanley00Duker: force it do what? and why?03:14
KBentley57robbbie:  didn't realize there were three b's.. :)  also, http://tinyurl.com/yheqjqq03:14
robbbieKBentley57: thank you sir!03:15
KBentley57robbbie: ! before you leave, please, for the love of your god, read the release notes for instructions :)03:15
DukerStanley: when running java 7 for my minecraft server (vanilla) the java process has a status of 'sleeping' and the process sits at 0% most of the time.03:16
DukerEven immediately after launching it with lots of CPU usage it is sleeping, then drops down to 0%03:16
ChipzzzDuker: doesn't it wake up when required to do something?03:17
Stanley00Duker: It's sleeping because it doesnot need to work,03:17
DukerIt is only sleeping, many poeple will log in and it is still sleeping and lagging heavily03:17
DukerUpgraded to 11.10 and 7java  two days ago on a new machine (same mc server)03:18
Dukerjava 7*, sorry03:18
DukerWas the fine first 24 hours03:18
DukerThen this sleeping thing started, everything is sleeping except one process03:18
milo_Hey everybody03:19
Stanley00Duker: most of my processs is sleeping too, but anything works fine03:19
DukerThen why is it stuck at such low CPU usage03:19
ADD_nauseamanyone has its pangolin tweaked?03:19
Stanley00!pangolin03:19
ubottuUbuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) will be the sixteenth release of Ubuntu. Codename announcement here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/784 | Discussion and support in #ubuntu+103:19
ChipzzzDuker: it sounds like the lag is the problem, not the sleeping java... networking or similar problem, maybe?03:20
Stanley00Duker: I think you should check for error somewhere else, process status sleeping is just fine03:20
OerDuker, i read Ubuntu uses java jre 6 > http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server#Ubuntu03:21
DukerMm, so its because I'm using 7?03:21
eduardoStanley00: to protect my data to be stolen with a usb drive03:21
ADD_nauseama friend of mine tells me the next version will be Porcupine03:21
OerADD_nauseam, you have a good friend.03:22
ADD_nauseamerr wh?03:22
milo_Why can't I talk on some channels? I just got the message "Milo_(channel name) cannot send to channel.03:22
ADD_nauseamwhy?03:22
DrPenguinmilo_: are you not registered?03:22
Resistance!voice | milo_03:22
Resistancebleh oh well03:22
eduardohi, does anyone know how to protect usb ports with password? thanks!03:22
Resistancemilo_:  either your non-registered account is quieted, all unregistered people are quieted in other channels, or you personally are quieted03:23
Stanley00eduardo: Assume you can do that, somebody can use a liveUSB to stolen your data without startup your own OS,03:23
Resistancemilo_:  registering your nickname can help03:23
Resistance!register | milo_03:23
ubottumilo_: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode03:23
mrproperhow can I tell sysklogd to log local5 items to a different log file from other ones?03:23
Stanley00eduardo: so, if you want to protect your data, encrypt it,03:23
milo_DrPenguin: Registered?03:24
DrPenguinmilo_: you have to register your nic to talk into some channels03:24
milo_ubottu: Thanks for the link. I'll check it out.03:24
ubottumilo_: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)03:24
Stanley00eduardo: or disable the usb interface in BIOS setting, but this is not recommend03:24
milo_ubottu: Haha, yeah. Me too.03:25
KBentley57milo: ubottu is not real, but it's nice that you're sincere :)03:26
milo_KBentley57: Oh what really? Ha. It's like those answering machines where you think you're talking to somebody and you talk then they get you.03:27
Chipzzzeduardo: I saw a link to ubuntu forums earlier about password protecting mounts... didn't that work?03:27
KBentley57milo_: haha, I've done it before myself03:27
eduardoStanley00: using liveusb takes more time and a regular pc user wont know how to do that03:27
eduardoChipzzz: no :S03:27
milo_ubottu: Are you really a bot? I don't believe you.03:28
ubottumilo_: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)03:28
KBentley57eduardo:  did you try the link that I sent you?03:28
milo_I guess so.03:28
bazhangmilo_, thats enough03:28
pangolin!bot | milo_03:28
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bazhangchit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic milo_03:28
KBentley57eduardo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=146762903:29
milo_bazhang: Ok. Hey, do you know how I can get my wifi working?03:29
KBentley57milo_: what wireless hardware? Integrated, usb, ect..03:30
Lucas3677hi guys I'm trying to use sed to do a regex match. I've gotten it to pick out the string I want on the line, but I want it to work on multi-line:03:30
Lucas3677ifconfig vmnet1 | sed 's/.*inet \(.*\) netmask.*/\1/'03:30
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Chr|sanyone ever have an error when opening up your home folder "The Folder Could not be opened: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken."03:31
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Stanley00eduardo: well, if so, I think you just setup your password, chmod all your file to 700, and when you have to left youe pc, just sleep, or run screen lock03:31
DukerWhat command would I use to uninstall java 7?03:31
eduardoStanley00: or just set a password to usb ports ;)03:32
almoxarifeDuker: how did you install it?03:32
KBentley57Duker:  Just use synaptic to completely remove it03:32
DukerAh right03:32
DukerSorry xD03:32
Chipzzzeduardo: did you install mount manager?03:33
KBentley57Duker:  If you know the exact name, you could do an apt-get purge, but synaptic is still easier03:33
AlexForce22hello anyone here03:34
AlexForce22Need some advice03:34
DrPenguinno one is here03:34
Chipzzzi'm not here too03:35
KBentley57ni am i03:35
eduardoChipzzz: yes03:35
KBentley57haha, my advice is free all night long.  whats up?03:35
milo_KBentley57: it's a broadcom built into (integrated?) my dell laptop.03:35
KBentley57milo_: can you find the model using the lspci command?03:36
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Kitenmilo_, i'm going to try to help you through this pretty bad mess here i used to have an hp that had broadcom wifi03:38
milo_KBentley57: Ok, yeah it's a BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY , I've been struggling with this for weeks now. Which is funny because I installed Ubuntu a while ago and got it working right away. Haven't been able to reproduce those results.03:38
milo_kiten: Oh sweet, thanks! This irc rox.03:39
Kitenmilo_, 9.04 will work out of the box i think or might be 9.10.03:39
Kitenany how your going to need to install ndiswrapper03:39
Kitensudo apt-get install ndiswrapper03:40
Chipzzzeduardo: do you have policy-kit-gnome installed?03:40
KBentley57milo_:  check this link too when you get a chance03:40
Kitenthen your going to need to download the windows drivers for your chip which you said you had a dell so dell has excellent driver saving powers ;p03:40
KBentley57milo_: http://tinyurl.com/y9gmacw03:40
milo_Kiten: "E: Unable to locate package ndiswrapper" I'm running Kubuntu by the way, in case that helps.03:41
Kitenahh03:41
Kitenone sec03:41
aspir3xnet03:41
KBentley57search synaptic for that, it should find it easily03:41
KBentley57or the software center03:41
Kitenapt-get install ndiswrapper-common ndisgtk ndiswrapper-utils-1.903:42
Chipzzzeduardo: sorry, it's policykit-gnome03:42
Kitenmilo_, sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common ndisgtk ndiswrapper-utils-1.903:42
milo_KBentley: muon software center is having issues. I tried to reinstall a fresh OS but can't get a USB to work, figure out how to do it with the cd's I have or get my burning software to work. Might be somebody in my place messing with my comp.03:43
KBentley57do you have synaptic installed?03:43
KBentley57milo_: sudo apt-get install synaptic if you don't have it03:43
Kitenmilo did you see my post ?03:44
KBentley57try kiten's way first though03:44
milo_Kiten: Ok, it worked03:44
Kitenmilo you said it was a dell ?03:45
milo_Kiten: Yes sir. 1525 Sir.03:45
aBoundAnybody know how I can remove Spotify?03:45
Kiteni link you to the starting process one sec03:45
DrPenguinaBound: should be able to run the uninstaller03:45
aBoundDrPenguin, I'd figure the same thing in Software Center but it's giving me a reinstall option. When I click on reinstall there's no uninstall or remove option available crazy.03:46
KBentley57aBound:  compltely remove with synaptic03:46
Kitenanyone happen to know the length limit for a url here ?03:46
DrPenguinaBound: oh wait.. you didnt use the Windows binary you used the linux beta?03:47
aBoundDrPenguin, I used a .deb file for it.03:47
DrPenguinthe windows bin under wine works well03:47
KBentley57I use the firefox tinyurl addin, check it out, its handy03:47
aBoundKBentley57, I'll try that out gotta install synaptic.03:47
Kitenit goes to about where you typed handy KBentley5703:47
KBentley57aBound:  sudo apt-get install synaptic if you don't know the command03:48
KBentley57Kiten:  it should be fine03:48
Kitenhttp://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/19/DriversHome/NeedProductSelection03:48
aBoundKBentley57, Software center. :P03:48
Kitenmilo go to that link and navigate to your particular model03:48
aBoundOh boy, seems like it doesn't exist in Synaptic either.03:49
Kitenonce you get there send me a  link its been awhile sense i've had the misfortune of having a broadcom chip03:49
ResistanceaBound:  what're you looking for...?03:49
aBoundAhh, found it blah.03:49
Resistance:P03:49
Ben64what is a quick, easy, simple WM I can install on my server so I can manipulate windows over VNC?03:49
aBoundResistance, Am trying to uninstall Spotify.03:49
Resistanceah03:49
KBentley57Ben64: icewm works well03:50
milo_Kiten: Ha, ok thanks. I'll give it a go.03:50
aBoundThanks, synaptic worked just fine.03:50
KBentley57aBound: cool03:51
Ben64KBentley57: thanks! i tried metacity but it would install basically all of gnome. icewm wants two additional packages only03:51
RomanceHello, i am using 10.04 and i have problem with synpatic , here it is : http://pastebin.com/z3b6BNRS03:51
KBentley57Ben64:  I use it a bit on servers too03:51
Romance*synaptic03:51
Kitenactually milo one sec it seems that broadcom actually decided to help us nix users out it may or may not work but lets try this first the other way is a PITA03:52
Kitenmilo_, http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php03:52
Kitenlets try that first the other way is a just a real pain to do03:52
Kiteni didn't have the option to use this last time i had my broadcom chip03:53
KBentley57Romance:  Are you trying to install libreoffice?03:54
aBoundHooray!! For ubuntu.03:54
koffeehauserTest 1 203:55
RomanceKBentley57 : i had libreoffice already , installed months ago03:55
KBentley57Romance: ok, just making sure since it was in the pastebin03:56
Kitenmilo_, according to broadcom ubuntu has a copy of the drivers in the repo03:56
Romanceaight03:56
koffeehauserBroadcom sucks, I could never get them out of the box on older versions03:57
Weemshaving a broken packages problem:  uwsgi-core : Depends: libzmq0 but it is not installable03:57
koffeehauserLinuxmint still hates my broadcom03:57
milo_Kiten: Ok. Still haven't got the hang of repos yet. Should I download the Linux sta driver?03:57
milo_koffeehauser: Yeah, broadcom is infamous for not working with Linux it seems...03:58
aBoundkoffeehauser, Did ya ever try to install the broadcom driver?03:58
Kitenmilo_, try sudo apt-get install broadcom-sta-common03:59
koffeehauseraBound you have to be online to install a driver to connect to enet. ;)03:59
Kiten milo_you know how  use the terminal right ?03:59
aBoundkoffeehauser, I know I was talking to somebody the other day about that. Are you the one with the broken ethernet port?04:00
koffeehauserAnd in those days I was sharing a router with my neighbour, so couldnt just go lan04:00
dr_willis100foot of cat5 :)04:00
Kitenmilo_, yeah don't be suprised if your wifi craps randomly happened to me all the time04:00
koffeehauseraBound nah im okay now, was just recalling my xp with broadcom04:01
milo_Kiten: Yeah, I know how to open it, logged a few hours. What are repos exactly? Are they part of the system or online?04:01
dr_willis!repo04:01
ubottuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories04:01
Kitenits in the default ubuntu repos04:01
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Kitenjust type sudo apt-get install broadcom-sta-common04:01
Romancewhy ppa.launchpad.net always give me error like 404 when update.. dang04:01
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aBoundkoffeehauser, I would say grab the driver package from your XP box. But figures you'd need a Net connection to install the package. You could also build/compile the broadcom driver from source.04:02
milo_Kiten: I had it working perfectly before! I had Ubunutu 10.something and I used the same disk, then had problems with it dropping...04:02
milo_Kiten: "ldconfig deferred processing now taking place"04:02
Kitenyeah did you upgrade ? there was one buntu that it working perfectly with but if you updated with update manager it blacklisted the module04:03
Kitenmilo_, yeah thats normal04:03
RomanceW: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/librecad-dev/librecad-daily/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found <-- i hate this *libre* thing, first libreoffice now librecad .. LIBRE sux... any solution?  i want to get rid off this libre retarded thing04:03
Kitenldconfig is just it caching if i recall correctly04:03
KitenRomance go back to openOffice04:04
Kiten;P04:04
KitenI don't like Libre thats why i'm not running 11.04 or 11.1004:04
Kitenthat and i don't like unity04:05
RomanceKiten, i used to have openoffice, i forget maybe i did install libreoffice and it overwritten and get rid the openoffice ( i didnt even uninstall openoffice ) .. Libre is sux04:05
Kitenyeah Romance you know how to get to terminal ?04:05
aBoundI don't mind Unity.04:05
aBound:P04:05
Romanceand next Kiten04:05
Kitensudo apt-get remove libreoffice04:05
Kitenactually better sudo apt-get purge libreoffice04:06
aBoundKeyboard shortcut to terminal: Ctrl-Alt-T to open a terminal04:06
Kitenmilo_, you there /04:06
Kiten*?04:06
andygraybealyay for ctrl-alt-t : )04:06
Romancegreat! the joy of the day, finally i get rid off this libresux04:06
KBentley57Actually, I don't mind unity either.04:06
milo_Kiten: Sorry. Ok, what do I do now?04:07
KingSphinxIs there a way to make ISO images of CDs in Ubuntu? I'm trying to make an ISO copy of an old Windows 98 disc I have so I can run it in VirtualBox (I know I can just use the disc itself, but an ISO is much faster). Unfortunately, I don't think Brasero offers a direct option. Would I have to add all files/directories on the CD to a data project in Brasero or is there a simpler way?04:07
KBentley57use vanilla gnome 3 for a few days and you'll love unity..lol04:07
andygraybealaBound, KBentley57: i likes unity too :)04:07
aBoundhehe04:07
escottKingSphinx, you just dd /dev/cdrom out to a file04:07
aBoundI actually prefer the simplicity why make life more complicated?04:07
Kitenin terminal " modprobe -l | grep wl04:07
Kiten"04:07
KBentley57are librecad and libreoffice even related?04:08
aBoundKBentley57, Awesome wallpapers www.interfacelift.com04:08
diegoHey guys!04:08
almoxarifeKingSphinx: do you have brasero installed?04:08
aBoundandygraybeal, By the way thanks.04:08
RomanceOk, another error happened, i open the update manager and here it goes --> 'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.'04:08
bennhelp my own .ls file is not working because of premission denied04:09
bennhow do i unlock the file04:09
Romancebenn chmod +x file04:09
bennBIG THANKS04:09
bennRomance04:09
Romancein terminal04:09
Romanceaight04:09
KBentley57aBound: those are pretty sweet04:09
andygraybealaBound,  :)  your welcome. i'm tired of listenign to people whine so much also (secondly of course)04:09
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Kitenhmm romance have you tried using synaptic ?04:09
Romancehold04:10
Kitenmilo_, did you see my post ?04:10
milo_Kiten: Ok done.04:10
Romancesame happened Kiten04:10
Kitenmilo_, you get any matches in kernel/drivers/net/wireless ?04:10
bennKiten:Still no cache found04:11
Kitenwell if you really want to get rid of it Romance the executable is sitting in /usr/bin/04:11
KBentley57Wellllll, time to compile a custom kernel then... haha04:11
aBoundandygraybeal, I know what you mean but people are not used to change. Other than that all the hard work they put into customizing their desktops.04:11
Kitenbenn i forgot what your earlier problem was could you remind me ?04:11
milo_Kiten: nothing in the list looks familiar...04:11
RomanceKiten : actually i didnt want to remove any, just want to do upgrade, but errors so much04:11
bennKiten:lol ,about getting videos cache from mozzila folder or somewhere else04:11
KBentley57speaking of which, has anyone tested a build of the 3.2 kernel?04:12
Kitenmilo_, msg me the out put of modprobe -l | grep broadcom, modprobe -l | grep bf43, modprobe -l | grep bmwl04:12
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Romancebenn you go to type in firefox tab --> about:cache04:12
bennRomance aready did04:13
Romanceabout:cache will tell you the path of your cache04:13
Romanceand?04:13
bennin there there is a b c folders04:13
Romanceoh forgot .mozilla is hidden04:13
Romanceany . is a hide folders04:13
KBentley57CTRL+H04:13
Romanceso go to Home Folder04:13
KingSphinxalmoxarife: Thank you! All this time, and I only now learned how to use dd... I should be ashamed.04:13
aBoundKBentley57, I previously used 12.04 Alpha 1 which used the 3.2 Kernel.04:13
bennand i search for videos and i dont find them04:13
Romanceand ctrl + h04:13
benni know i know04:13
benni am in the folder of cache04:13
KBentley57sorry :)04:13
andygraybealaBound, yes, i didn't consider the customatization..  for work i would love go go there, but i'm afraid :P04:13
KingSphinxalmoxarife: Oops, wasn't meant for you.04:14
KBentley57I usually build my *buntus from the minimal install ISO's04:14
aBoundandygraybeal, To go too 12.04? :P04:14
andygraybealaBound, well not 12.04, but unity... i would end up using failback i think04:14
Romancebenn, some videos i play didnt store a cache and some do, it was fine before the all the regularly upgrades i done, now i just messed up my ubuntu lol04:14
aBoundandygraybeal, Gave gnome-shell a try yet?04:15
andygraybealaBound, i don't want all the people at work to go balistic04:15
milo_Kiten: There's no output04:15
aBoundUnity is pretty easy to use combine it with the synapse app and you're golden. :P04:15
andygraybealaBound, no, i should install alpha right now.04:15
bennRomance:hahah04:15
KingSphinxescott: Thank you! All this time, and I only just now learn how to use dd... I should be ashamed.04:15
aBoundI just changed my unity icons.04:15
andygraybealaBound, synapse ?04:15
Kitenhmm one sec in the meantime milo run this sudo apt-get install build essentials04:15
bennRomance:yeah i heard flash 10 was easier ..just in tmp04:15
aBoundandygraybeal, I used it for like two or three days. Software center takes forever to load and doesn't install anything and I had some other issues.04:16
andygraybealaBound, aah 12.04 for now?04:16
aBoundandygraybeal, Ever used gnome-do before? Synapse is a better alternative.04:16
Romanceit was in tmp, now adobe ruined it up, copyrights concerns THEY SAY04:16
aBoundandygraybeal, But unity does feel a bit more stable on 12.04 rather than 11.10.04:17
bennRomance:i still wonder..the video must go somewhere..Do you find your videos in firefox/profile/cache/2A?04:17
andygraybealaBound, no i don't know 'gnome-do' :( erp... don't be mean04:17
bennRomance:i am not finding it no where04:17
milo_Kiten: "E: Package 'build' has no installation candidate"04:17
aBoundandygraybeal, http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/quickly-find-search-launcher-app-synapse-ubuntu/04:17
RomanceBen64 : my cache is in /firefox/hdgix95d.default/cache04:18
aBoundLaunching synapse is as easy as pressing: ctrl-space to launch it.04:18
andygraybealaBound, so this is better than the built-in launcher?04:18
Ben64Romance: ok??04:18
Romanceoh wrong04:18
Romancebenn : my cache is in /firefox/hdgix95d.default/cache04:18
bennRomance:mine in .mozilla/firefox/zr07ca2u.default/Cache04:18
bennRomance:i am not finding it04:18
bennRomance:the video04:19
Romanceif you CLOSE a video, it will just go?04:19
bennRomance:but i have it streamed and it is opened in my firefox in youtube04:19
bennRomance:Flash version 1104:19
Romancebenn : yes i had the same issue, some videos on youtube store cache and some dont, i dont know why04:20
Kitenmilo_, whoops sudo apt-get install build-essentials04:20
bennRomance:ok04:20
aBoundandygraybeal, As in lenses for unity? I prefer it overall.04:20
andygraybealaBound, lenses they are called?04:20
andygraybealaBound, like the alt-f2 ?04:20
aBoundandygraybeal, Alt-F2 tends to run a command. :P04:21
Kitenmilo are you 32bit or 64 bit ?04:21
RomanceKiten : did you find my problem solution? can't find it.04:21
aBoundandygraybeal, I have a ubuntu key on my laptop. :P04:21
Omega11ubuntu linux sucks i use windows 704:21
milo_Kiten: same thing pretty much "E: Unable to locate package build-essentials"04:21
andygraybealaBound, yes, i use alt-f2 to run everything04:22
RomanceOmega11 :D04:22
andygraybealaBound, tell me about 'lenses'04:22
aBoundMy ubuntu key launches Unity Lenses. Whereas ctrl-space launches synapse for me. Synapse also has more plugins.04:22
Omega11i don't like linux04:22
Omega11too hard to use04:22
Romancethen go Omega1104:22
bennhahaha04:22
Kitenmilo_, whoops sudo apt-get install build-essential04:22
andygraybealaaah ..'ubuntu key'04:22
* KingSphinx must not feed the troll...04:22
andygraybealsorry04:22
aBoundUnity lenses is just the default launcher in Unity.04:22
andygraybealso lenses is what that menu is called04:22
Kitensorry milo_ i forgot its build-essential not build-essentials04:22
aBoundYes04:23
andygraybealaBound, aab yes yes.. then :)04:23
Omega11torrents are illegal how come it says to use torrents in the topi04:23
bennOmegall:your right but..the thing is it take less memory and it does more like Autodesk Maya04:23
ubluntuOmega11: how are torrents illegal ?04:23
KitenOmega11, torrents ARE NOT ILLEGAL04:23
milo_Kiten: Ok, that worked.04:23
aBoundSynapse is just an alternative launcher.04:23
Omega11torrents are stealing stuff04:23
benntorrents are not illegal04:23
bennits sharing04:23
andygraybealaBound, understand now!04:23
ubluntuhe's just trolling. no one feed it.04:23
RomanceKiten: :(04:23
bennfriends are sharing stuff to us04:24
Kitenyeah sorry milo was my bad04:24
aBoundSynapse also carries plugins so it can be extended whereas lenses can't. :P04:24
bennOmegall feed my shit04:24
KitenRomance i know i know give me a few minutes :P04:24
Romanceaight kitties04:24
Omega11anyways fuck you all04:24
Kitenmilo_, are you 32 bit or 64 bit ?04:24
Omega11Kiten: my windows 7 is 64 bit04:24
Omega11i love it04:24
Omega11very easy to use04:24
KitenOmega11, muted04:25
Romanceput Omega11 in ignore list04:25
milo_Kiten: 32.04:25
milo_Omega11, muted04:25
andygraybealaBound, what is 'gnome do' ?04:25
Omega11corey the freenode op is a bitvh04:25
milo_Romance: How to mute?04:25
Omega11bitch just so you know04:25
Kitenmilo /ignore nick all04:25
bastidra1or!ops | Omega1104:25
ubottuOmega11: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, pangolin, nhandler or Jordan_U!04:25
aBoundandygraybeal, gnome-do is a launcher too but hasn't been updated in two years.04:26
almoxarifehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME_Do04:26
bennOmegall dont get it wrong04:26
bennfuck you04:26
andygraybealaBound, aah okay, awesome thanks man, i'm gonna loook up synapse04:26
Kiten milo /ignore omega11 all04:26
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aBoundandygraybeal, No problem.04:26
milo_Kiten: Thanks! Yeah that worked.04:26
Kitenlike that thats how you mute :P04:26
* panderiz has sent you a private message. Type /server mail list to view current private messages.04:26
aBoundandygraybeal, Sometimes I'm to lazy to click on the web browser. So I use synapse to launch it. lol04:27
WeemsI cannot start this service: Starting app server(s) uwsgi   [fail]04:27
andygraybealaBound,  nice, reaching for the mouse is a stretch for me too :)04:27
aBoundhaha04:27
milo_Kiten: Learning is fun...hey you sent me the hybrid pacakge? There's a thing that says DCC Status with a familiar looking driver file04:28
Kitenpanderiz that was a dirty trick04:28
panderizIt's just as amusing every time04:28
andygraybeali totally love that they have integrated like 'ubuntu-key+number key' to launch apps!!!04:28
milo_Kiten: I tried the ndiswrapper, and I think it was the hybrid driver you sent that got my wifi working the first time.04:28
Kitenyeah that is the driver04:28
bindiandygraybeal: you mean the meta key? or the windows key as more commonly known04:28
andygraybealaBound, btw, how do you have 'ubuntu key' and not 'window key' ?04:29
Kitenany how is it working now ?04:29
Kitenpanderiz, i'll get you back04:29
andygraybealbindi, totally 'windows key' :)04:29
andygraybeali just didn't want to mention it04:29
bindiandygraybeal: that's been in windows 7 since release, btw :)04:29
aBoundandygraybeal, I have a prebuilt and preconfigured www.system76.com machine. Preinstalled for ubuntu.04:29
bindijust.. saying.. :D04:29
panderizKiten, Reach arounds are my biggest weakness04:29
andygraybealbindi, nice :) !!04:30
milo_panderiz: Ahaha, gross...04:30
aBoundI had a few dings when I bought the machine.04:30
andygraybealaBound, aah very nice.. i have looked at their systems04:30
Kitenmilo_, is your wifi working now ?04:30
Kitenthought so :P04:30
Kitenany how download that04:30
aBoundandygraybeal, I have 16GB of unnecessary RAM. :P04:30
Kitenyour going to need to be in terminal for this one04:30
aBoundandygraybeal, If I could take the machine back I'd get the Lemur Ultra except it might have issues with Compiz.04:31
Kitenwherever you placed that cd /place/you/put/it04:31
andygraybealhahahah omg, nice.  i think my server at work has 12GB right now (this coming year, though upgrade to like crazy amount)04:31
milo_Kiten: downloading the driver. Not sure what to do next. I uninstalled teh Knetwork manager and downloaded Wicd. Says "bad password" and I was trying to download 1.6 instead of 1.7 to fix the problem. Will that be an issue?04:31
aBoundandygraybeal, What's the OS the servers running on?04:31
andygraybeallemur is musical control interface?04:31
aBoundandygraybeal, System76 has a laptop called Lemur Ultra.04:32
Kitenmilo_, tar xf hybrid-portsrc-x86_32-v5_100_82_112.tar04:32
andygraybealaBound, don't be mean, i can't handle it well - i run 10.04 on servers.04:32
w30there are tux keys for sale on several sites Just pry off the windows key and pop the tux key on (after crawling on the floor to find the spring that went flying).04:32
aBoundhehe04:32
Kitenonce you've done that then type make04:32
andygraybealaBound,  aah the lemur means different things then.04:32
aBoundI'd be running Debian/FreeBSD on them machines even though my lack of Linux/BSD knowledge forbids me. lol04:32
andygraybealaBound, my firewall was obsd, now fbsd.04:33
milo_Kiten: so I type in " tar xf hybrid-portsrc-x86_32-v5_100_82_112.tar"04:33
milo_?04:33
Kitenyeah04:33
aBound8GB is good enough for Ubuntu unless you're doing Blender work like 3D.04:33
Kitenare you in the directory where it was at ?04:33
ubluntu2gb is good enough for ubuntu really...04:33
ubluntujust depends what you are going to do04:33
andygraybealaBound, i've run bsd since ... i dunno 18 yrs ago?04:33
aBoundubluntu, I almost hit the milestone of 1GB using ubuntu. :P04:34
aBoundandygraybeal, I ran it once and it ran nice, solid and stable.04:34
milo_Kiten: yeah, I'm looking at it in Dolphin04:34
aBoundEventually I may move to FreeBSD as a desktop.04:34
andygraybealaBound, at work, i'm not smart enough to run bsd as 'userspace' - i use ltsp on 10.04, it's friggen magic + zentyal to fill in the gabs04:34
andygraybealgaps04:34
Kitenmilo_, i meant in terminal does it say your in the directory its in ?04:34
andygraybealaBound, i would like to play with fbsd as desktop too :)04:35
Kitenmilo_, type ls to list the files in that directory04:35
andygraybealaBound, we easily consume 8GB at work, as ltsp is the work horse.. i need to upgrade the machine04:35
andygraybeali think it upgrades to like 50someGB04:35
napsterHow to check if my bluetooth adapter works? I've installed blueman GUI and I get an error message "No Adapters Found"04:35
aBoundandygraybeal, They have books on freebsd may have to download one of those or buy one.04:36
milo_Kiten: Oh, I missed that part. Uhm... little confused. I typed ls and it named a bunch of folders under Home I think.04:36
Romance:(04:36
Kitenmilo_, where does dolphin say that file i gave is ?04:36
aBoundandygraybeal, ltsp what's that?04:36
aBoundandygraybeal, Always virtualbox for freebsd. :-)04:37
Kitenmilo_, actually if you wanted me to do it for you i could all you'd need to do is install teamviewer04:37
Kitenthat is if you trust me enough to be on your machine04:37
pythonirc101who do I restart ssh ? service ssh restart ---> restart: Unknown instance:04:37
andygraybealltsp = linux terminal server project... you can run like 100's of desktops off of one server04:37
aBoundI still gotta learn vim.04:37
andygraybeallike mainframe and dumbterminnal setup04:37
aBoundDang that's crazy.04:37
andygraybealya, and they got it so it clusters too, it's totally bad ass04:38
KitenaBound, due vim is so freaking easy man04:38
milo_Kiten: sure. I mean, my comp is probably being hacked anyway. I just need to get a video recorder for later so I know how to do it/make sure I'm not being messed with04:38
Kitenyou've used teamviewer before then ?04:38
aBoundKiten, Not when it comes to being a new user. lol04:38
andygraybealaBound,  yea, i use kvm as to vbox.. but ya.. i should vm a fbsd box sometime04:38
milo_Kiten: No, but I've had tech support use stuff to control my mouse and stuff. Guessing it's the same type of stuff. Forgot what the IT industry calls it.04:39
andygraybealaBound,  hey, i'm gonna get on running 12.04 alphie for the hey of it04:39
aBoundI'm thinking about grabbing the book for VIM.04:39
KitenaBound, just remember that vim functions in modes when you push i that is insert you push esc to go back to 0 mode(or whatever you want to call it04:39
aBoundandygraybeal, Good luck it uses a bunch of new packages which is nice.04:39
Kiten)04:39
RomanceaBound : dont think, do it :)04:39
aBoundRomance, lol04:40
RomanceKiten :(04:40
Kitenwait a tic teamviewer isn't in buntus repoes ??????04:40
aBoundYou guys more vim users or emacs users?04:40
KitenRomance, i know i know i'll help you a tad bit04:40
KitenRomance, you know how to use terminal right ?04:40
Romancegedit and pico :p04:40
RomanceKiten ye04:40
andygraybealaBound,  your very nice. thank you :)04:40
aBoundKiten, Yeah but see like adding vimscripts, colored themes and configuration files confuses me. Seeing as there's not much documentation on the subject.04:40
milo_Kiten: Don't ask me about repos.04:40
aBoundMan pages are too huge.04:41
Kitenromance cd /usr/bin/ rm  libreoffice04:41
andygraybealaBound, ltsp has #ltsp :)04:41
Kitencd /usr/share/04:41
aBoundandygraybeal, No problem and welcome.04:41
Kitenrm libreoffice, cd /usr/lib/, rm -rf libreoffice04:41
KitenaBound, yeah adding themes is kinda tough04:42
Kitenmilo_, yeah i know its just shocking to think that teamviewer isn't on there04:42
aBoundI want vim to be my primary editor and either nano/geany for quick edits.04:42
aBoundI seen eclipse but who knows.04:42
Kitenmilo_, do you know what processor your are using is ?04:42
Kitenie amd or intel ?04:42
milo_Kiten: No, I just mean I don't know anything about repos!04:43
Kitenmilo_, i know ;P lmao04:43
milo_Kiten: Oh. Ok, that went over my head then. Processor...terminal command for that?04:43
aBoundI can't decide between bash or zsh.04:43
MerlynKorrhello room...04:43
ubluntumilo_: cat /proc/cpuinfo04:43
Kitenmilo it should say it somewhere on your pc unless you removed the badges04:44
RomanceKiten: i dont know if libreoffice really the only issue here, " E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. "04:44
milo_Kiten: "No such file or directory"04:44
Romancestill cant do update upgrade04:44
Kitenromance sudo apt-get --fix-missing04:44
milo_Kiten: Nevermind. Typed it in wrong. Did copy/paste and it worked.04:44
aBoundandygraybeal, Now all we gotta do is build the next facebook. lol04:45
Kitenmilo check on your pc for badges :P04:45
milo_Kiten: Intel Celeron 550 @ 2.00GHz04:45
Kitenahh there we go04:45
Kitennever mind i was going to have you compile it but i'll just send you mind04:45
Kiten*mine04:45
thomedyplease help.. i am setting up my wireless in ubuntu and im stumpped... im just stumpped04:45
thomedyi dmesg and  i get deauthenticate reason 304:46
andygraybealaBound,  :) nice :)04:46
MerlynKorris there an someone that can bring some assistance about archive download files?04:46
Kitenmilo when you download that make sure you rememeber where you put it mmk ?04:46
thomedyi deactivated ipv6 but no difference04:46
MerlynKorrthe ark app does not seem to do the trick...04:46
Romancehold Kiten im doing sudo apt-get update --fix-missing > stupiderror.log04:46
KitenMerlynKorr, such as ?/?? tar, gz etc ?04:46
Romancei will paste the error wait04:47
milo_Kiten: Ok. Ha, you can send it to me with your mind if that works better04:47
Kitenromance i'm sorry its just -f04:47
Kitenmilo_, yeah i'm a little scatter brained right now04:47
MerlynKorri cannot get a handle on the installation from archives the way i want04:47
thomedyis there a please set up wireless page in steps 1 2 3 and done site04:47
Kitenits like 11:47pm04:47
thomedycuz i have done googling and and cant figure it out04:47
thomedyi dont even know what the problem is04:48
MerlynKorrthe archives wont extract n such a way as to place the files in an nstallable fashion.04:48
RomanceKiten : http://pastebin.com/h0Z017Hb04:48
ubluntuMerlynKorr: are they source archives. or like .deb files ?04:48
milo_Kiten: Well you're a gangsta compared to me at this so no worries.04:48
MerlynKorrinstead, t gives an error about the extraction....04:48
KitenRomance: again sorry i shoulda read docs better, sudo apt-get check -f04:49
MerlynKorrthe extraction files are of both types i believ e... yet im n ot sure, let me chack.04:49
Chipzzzthomedy: what kind of wireless adaptor?04:49
Kitenmilo_, take that file please :P04:50
RomanceKiten : did it, nothing changed04:50
KitenRomance, that did nothing ?04:50
aBoundI'm so amazed at Ubuntu I can do almost everything from my desktop.04:50
RomanceKiten : yes, only showed me "Reading state information... Done"04:50
milo_Kiten: My bad. Didn't notice that. I'll keep an I out for DCC messages next time.04:50
Romanceand i did update, back the same error04:50
KitenRomance, ok try this sudo apt-get install nmap04:51
Romancei have it04:51
Kitennot that you need that package i want to know what it says when you try to install something04:51
Chr|sAnyone have any problems starting up Urban Terror? For some reason I can't get it to execute. I played this game before with ubuntu04:51
MerlynKorrnow, at this point i dont have any files available, so i will wait tll i can correlate the necessary information and then get back here with it.04:51
Romanceok04:52
thomedyis there any other room with people who can help im sure this room can but the disinterest not helping however i understand i am not your responsibiltity... i just need it done04:52
Kitenmilo_, navigate to where that file is in dolphin note the name at the top04:52
thomedywhoa i just realized there was help04:52
Kitenthen type cd /path/that/dolphin/has/at/top04:52
thomedyim sorry my thing didn't scroll down04:52
aBoundKiten, I know this isn't ubuntu-related but how'd you learn vim?04:52
RomanceKiten : here http://pastebin.com/F6U6fyv604:52
MerlynKorrtheres no point i n trying to figure it out when there isnt anythin g to figure out, but i do have another question regarding disc uploads to cdrom./04:52
milo_Kiten: ok, I see it now >home>downloads04:53
Kitenthomedy, we are kinda slim on answerers right now we have to many askers ;p04:53
Kiteni'll get to you after i finish with milo and romance04:53
Chipzzzthomedy: what kind of adaptor are you trying to set up?04:53
thomedymy wireless adaptor is an ark50004:53
thomedyi dont know how to find adapter04:53
thomedyto get the controller/driver i lspci04:53
aBound:P04:53
MerlynKorrwhere there are files copied to disc it will not then reload them in any operable way...how do i overcome this/04:53
thomedy-k04:53
Kitenmilo cd /home/username/Downloads04:53
TBotNikAll: Having an FTP problem.  Most Linux FTP clients do not allow for linking to .ppk, .pem or .dsa key pair files and then logging in without password, via the authentication file.  I typically use FileZilla, but they say they link to Putty, so recommend opening Putty to the host machine via the authentication file method, which they say will then allow FieZilla to see the auth file in use and log in on FileZilla.  I found this only works04:54
TBotNikAll: Key pair means SFTP04:54
Kitenmilo_,  you ther ?04:55
Kiten*there ?04:55
milo_Kiten: yeah, having to copy/paste a lot to get things right, but I'm there04:55
MerlynKorrhow does one go about beng able to upload file discs that were burned to disc from KDE Kubuntu?04:55
thomedyoh i just realized the ar5001 is my adaptor04:55
Kitenso your in /home/username/Downloads ?04:55
milo_Kiten: yeah, having to copy/paste a lot to get things right, but I'm there04:55
Kitentype ls and do you see wl.ko ?04:55
MerlynKorrbecause when i do that the returning them to the computer of m kne or someone elses gets errors and will not and cannot be done.04:56
RomanceMerlynKorr use Brasero04:56
milo_Kiten: Yes sir. It's there.04:56
KitenRomance /msg me the out put of a random install attempt04:56
chelzhow much ram is needed for toram=yes on lucid? and later?04:56
MerlynKorrright yet when i try to reinstall the disc file then i get inoperable apps.04:56
RomanceKiten : i tried nmap and here it is http://pastebin.com/F6U6fyv604:57
Chipzzzthomedy: have you seen this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148492404:57
Kitenmilo type "sudo modprobe lib80211 && modprobe cfg80211"04:57
MerlynKorrthey will not most of the time return in operable status...04:57
thomedyokay i will look atthat in a sec but for context here is what i get04:58
thomedyi click the wifi and then i dmesg04:58
KitenRomance your install is seriously effed04:58
milo_Kiten: "FATAL: Error inserting cfg80211 (/lib/modules/3.0.0-12-generic/kernel/net/wireless/cfg80211.ko): Operation not permitted"04:58
RomanceMerlynKorr : make one specific question that is can be understood, in one line04:58
thomedyi get authenticated, associated, and then immediately deauthenticated04:58
Kitenoh man04:58
thomedyi will now get that link04:58
Kitendang it04:58
bbttvvggis there a simple doc or vid explaining how to set up ubuntu on ec2 that you could point me to?04:59
Romancethen Kiten ? :(04:59
Kiteni didn't know you had kernel 3 milo :(04:59
MerlynKorrthey give an error like " child directory...no parent directory found..."04:59
benbloomquick question: how do i delay the mounting of an nfs in fstab until the network is ready?04:59
KitenRomance to be honest you would really be better off reinstalling but i'll try to help you through it04:59
Kitenso that you don't have to04:59
Romancebenbloom : somewhere in terminal by the command mount .. try mount -h04:59
Romanceaight Kiten im waiting05:00
thomedythis looks like a hilarious hack but i am going to try it right now05:00
thomedyshould i be concerned that i disabled my ipv605:00
thomedyshould i reinable that05:00
thomedy i followed a google05:00
benbloomRomance: problem is i have my nfs in /etc/fstab and it's not loading at boot but if i 'umount -a' then 'mount -a' they show up fine05:01
KitenRomance one sec05:01
Kiten------05:01
KitenGo to System->Administration->Hardware Drivers05:01
KitenChoose the Broadcom STA wireless driver05:01
KitenActivate05:01
FloodBot1Kiten: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:01
MerlynKorrsorry so unintelligible.05:01
Kitensorry05:01
Kitensorry that was supposed to be a message05:02
milo_Kiten: I'm using the new version of Kubuntu...05:02
MerlynKorrits kewl ill try some other time... you guys are buzy, lol.05:02
Chipzzzthomedy: if you found a hack at that link, you went to the wrong place... ipv6 shouldn't matter... have you tried connecting to a network that doesn't need authentication?05:02
Kitenoh man milo05:02
Kitenok05:02
subcoolHey, i just setup a usb kubuntu- i need to fix my girls laptop, she's got some CRAZY viri on here.05:03
subcoolsuggestions?05:03
ubluntusubcool: clam-av ?05:04
subcoolhhmm ya- the guide didnt mention that one.05:04
Chipzzzubluntu +105:04
KitenRomance sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f check05:04
subcoolubluntu: whats the addy to the ubuntu guide?05:05
Kitenmilo_, sudo apt-get update05:05
subcoolim a google idiot05:05
Romancebenbloom : hope this help, i dont know much -> http://neophyteman.wordpress.com/2010/06/06/ubuntu-10-04-boot-or-devsda-startup-mount-problem/05:05
milo_Kiten: done05:05
pangolin!guide | subcool05:06
ubottusubcool: The Ubuntu server guide may be found at http://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/05:06
subcoolnot server guide05:06
pangolin!manual05:06
ubottuThe Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/05:06
Levysubcool, Referring to this guide? http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Oneiric05:06
Kitenmilo_, then sudo apt-get --reinstall install bcmwl-kernel-source05:06
RomanceKiten : did it, same error :( :(05:06
benbloomi appreciate the effort Romance.05:06
subcoolLevy: that workd.. thanks05:06
LevyNo problem.05:06
subcoolya, i was getting .... https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/index.html05:06
LevyHA!05:07
Levybrb05:07
KitenRomance ok your probably going to have to reinstall you've got a seriously broken installation05:07
forcemphas anyone seen an issue where your xserver crashes during various operations like file save and laptop lid closing?05:07
Romanceoh my :(05:07
KitenRomance, apt should have fix the missing dependencies05:07
aBoundAhh, it shows my name aBound in the room but ahh...05:07
aBoundOops.05:08
aBoundhaha05:08
forcempI noticed that my xserve only crashes when  my dmesg reports an issue with drm at boot up.05:08
Kitenbrb RR05:08
Romancehow about *install manually* the missing dependencies from source code, will it help Kiten?05:08
subcoolhas avira rubbed anyone the wrong way?05:09
subcooli hope these fix it- but she has a crazy virus05:09
subcoolits disabling me from EVERYTHING, safemode, keyboard, network connections. i had to install and setup my ubuntu usb just to bypass everything.05:10
forcempgood evening everyone, I am hoping to get some of your thoughts on why my xserver maybe crashing.05:10
almoxarifeRomance: you all scritp-kiddie to accomplish what?05:11
aBoundsubcool, Haven't really used an antivirus for Ubuntu if that's what you're referring too.05:11
subcoolaBound: no- using ubuntu to fix a Win system05:11
Chipzzzforcemp: any background on the problem? recent hardware changes, etc?05:11
Romancealmoxarife?05:11
aBoundsubcool, Haven't tried Avira before.05:12
aBoundToo bad you can't run NOD32 in it.05:12
almoxarifeRomance: what was broke? to begin with?05:13
KitenRomance, yeah you could but i'm telling its a PITA05:13
Kitenand you don't have to install from source05:13
Romancethe packages almoxarife05:13
Kitenyou could download from ubuntus online repos05:13
almoxarifeRomance: packages, to accomplish what?05:14
Romanceupdates05:14
forcemp@chipzzz no the behavior has been present for quite some time through different kernel versions. I noticed that it will crash on certian operations like a file save in kate or from just closing the lid on my laptop without it going to sleep. when i look at dmesg i can see drm errors right away on boot up. But when i boot up and the errors are not present I dont have issues.05:14
thomedyokay somehow i have disabled my wireless and cant turn it back on05:14
thomedythis sucks05:14
Kitenalmoxarife, http://pastebin.com/F6U6fyv6 thats what hes having05:14
aBoundAlright ya'll I'm outta here have a happy new years eve. :P05:14
forcemp@abound you could browse the typical virus locations like system3205:15
Chipzzzforcemp: how old is the laptop?05:15
robbbieso i have my radeon card working now with fglrx driver, sound works over hdmi, etc image is better however the desktop does not span the full width of the monitor, i have at least a half inch bezel that i want to get rid of05:15
forcemp@chipzzz about two years. HP 6730b05:15
almoxarifeKiten: and what causes that normally?05:15
Kitencorrupt cache05:16
Kitencould be numerous things05:16
ublunturobbbie: do an xrandr -q whats the resolution? does it match the max of the monitor ?05:16
robbbieubluntu: res is 1920x1080 i believe thats max. it was working fine until i installed the fglrx driver from AMD, however sound wasn't working over hdmi05:17
almoxarifeKiten: how about a ppa ? broke the base system?05:17
Chipzzzforcemp: I'm suspicious of the hardware... any indication the problems may be temperature dependent?05:17
forcempwhen i run #dmesg | grep -i drm i get : [  309.145225] [drm:i915_report_and_clear_eir] *ERROR* EIR stuck: 0x00000010, masking05:17
ublunturobbbie: can you pastebin your xrandr -q ?05:18
robbbieubluntu: sure, one sec05:18
Kitenyeah that definitely would break his cache and cause apt to freak out05:18
robbbieubluntu: http://pastebin.com/k6NvEWbv05:18
KitenRomance, you know how to get to your package sources ?05:18
Romancei have seen this IRC log anyway http://emc.mah.priv.at/irc/%23cam/2011-07-25.html    .. they are talking about same problem as mine, " <ries> Apparently the ppa doesn't work for 10.04, so you should remove that "05:18
Kitenwait a sec05:19
Kiteni'm on 10.0405:19
Romance"ries> you might want to coordinate that with Scott howard" .,. "<KimK> The guy with the broken ppa? The one that borked my Synaptic? "05:19
Romanceget my package sources Kiten?05:19
forcempchipzzz i have not seen any temperature events but when i login on first boot up when the drm error is present xorg is extremely slow05:20
KitenSystem->Administration->Software Sources05:20
rooksfor all of the unity haters, heres gnome3/gnome-classic on ubuntu11.10 dressed up to look like gnome2 on ubuntu10.10 :) just uploaded :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7xIfZZhjHo05:20
Romanceaight05:20
rhizmoe"look like" is the easy part05:20
Kitenrooks, i didn't mind the new look i just didn't like that it was sort of forced05:20
Chipzzzforcemp: drm is about video processes... dust has a nasty habit of accumulating in the heat sink ducts in laptops... has the machine ever been in for repair or preventative maintenance?05:20
rhizmoeworked like crap on my graphics card05:21
KitenRomance, did you see my post ?05:21
rooksKiten, yeah,, so i did. that is why i did that convo, to make it sane again :P05:21
almoxarifeRomance: you added a ppa recently?05:21
Romanceyes Kiten, opened it05:21
Romancealmoxarife guess so05:21
robbbieubluntu: few strange things have started happening since installing the driver and running aticonfig, for example all the icons in nautilus are the same, paper icon, no folders for directories, also the workspace switcher is different when i do ctrl+alt+arrow, i have been using linux for a long time but cli only for the most part05:21
almoxarifeRomance: don't guess, you did or did not, I don't have the borked system05:22
KitenRomance, go to the other software tab and list all the items in a /msg to me05:22
ublunturobbbie: robbbie yea that is all very weird.... it looks like it should use all of the screen. sounds like something is very wrong but I'm not really sure what it is, how did you install fglrx throuhg the gtk app ?05:22
forcempchipzzz i had my hinge break about a year ago and hp replaced the bezel, i keep my system rather clean and can see my heat sink clear.05:23
robbbieubluntu: i believe it was a shell script05:23
Kitenrooks, also didn't like the way it felt its definitely sleek i'll give you that much05:23
Chipzzzforcemp: so much for my theory :(05:23
almoxarifeRomance: and before you go all script-kiddie on your system again, the key to your initial problem is 'ppa-purge' , then you can start again, btw, no guarantee it will work, but it's the only thing left05:24
ublunturobbbie: I believe that the *official* way to install fglrx is through that gtk app. jockey-gtk is it?05:24
robbbieubluntu: ati-driver-installer-11-12-x86.x86_64.run from amd05:24
ubluntu!ati05:24
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto05:24
ublunturobbbie: does fglrxinfo look good ?05:25
RomanceHeh05:25
forcempchipzzz: thanks for trying. its been an annoying feature where when i log in i just run dmesg | grep -i drm  and if i see any errors i just reboot and i am good for that session.05:26
KitenRomance, there is a chat limit bud even for /msg's05:26
Romancedidnt know05:26
Romancehttp://pastebin.com/XwS8941e05:26
Kitenalso i didn't need the random text ;p05:26
Romance:D05:26
thomedyokay now i dont have eth0 or wlan005:26
thomedythis sucks05:26
Romancethomedy iwconfig05:27
Chipzzzforcemp: you might try reinstalling the video drivers, though, in case they've become corrupted... as I mentioned, drm is the (D)rect (R)endering (M)anager05:27
thomedymaybe i have eth0 iwconfig says no wireless extension but it shouldn't since eth0 is wired05:28
forcempah ok. i thought it was digital rights management. ill try to reinstall the driver. thanks05:28
thomedyhowever my wireless is greyed out and when i ifconfig wlan0 up05:28
DrPenguinforcemp: it is, but different context ^^05:28
Chipzzzmy pleasure. good luck05:28
DrPenguinthomedy: eth0 should say no wireless extension in iwconfig05:29
DrPenguinbecause it isnt a wireless device05:29
forcempthanks for clarifying dr penguin.05:29
* Kiten will be back going to try something05:29
DrPenguinforcemp: no problemo05:30
robbbieubluntu: thanks i am reinstalling it the proper way :P05:30
Chr|sAnyone here play Urban Terror or used too? having problems starting it up in ubuntu. It runs as a task, but I see now window05:30
DrPenguinChr|s: my first recommendation would be to kick it off in a terminal shell, redirecting stderr to stdout and see if it pukes05:30
stephenhello05:31
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Resistancehow can i find my CPU model via command line05:33
DrPenguinResistance: cat /proc/cpuinfo05:33
Resistancethanks05:33
DrPenguinnaievely.. you may be able to just grep model05:33
Chr|sDrPenguin, its been awhile for me using linux. Just typing the executable file name in terminal in the current folder isn't starting it05:34
thomedy675okay i dmesg and i get eth0 link is down and also a nother line that says eth0 not ready05:34
clear`hey guys, anyone know how to completely remove gnome-shell from ubuntu 11.1005:34
thomedy675so i ifconfig eth0 up05:34
thomedy675and ican at least see it in ifconfig05:34
thomedy675but dmesg is still giving me errors05:35
Guest79686I have a problem, Banshee media player does not detect my music cd's in ubuntu 11.10, any ideas?05:35
DrPenguinChr|s: is the game not in your path? you will have to refer to it absolutely05:35
Chr|syes im in the folder where it is located05:35
DrPenguinChr|s: prefix the bin with ./, most likely . is not in your path05:36
shadaloohello friends of 0105:38
robbbieubluntu: hey hey got it working, also the issue was underscan in amdcccle, one more quick question however, any idea how to get nautilus icons working properly?05:38
shadaloomy mplayer makes a skipping sound when I skip05:38
shadalooafter an update to 11.1005:38
ublunturobbbie: try changing the theme maybe?05:38
robbbieubluntu: ok05:39
shadaloohow do I fix this hacker friends05:39
shadalooI don't want this bad noise05:39
Guest79686I have a problem, Banshee media player does not detect my music cd's in ubuntu 11.10, any ideas?05:39
nimbioticsHello all. Using ubuntu 11.10l when I try to run firestarter I get warning shown at http://paste.ubuntu.com/788586/ and it does not open. How can I fix this? TIA!05:39
shadaloowb05:40
shadaloohow many backdoors do u think ubuntu has?05:41
bis0nhello05:41
shadaloohi05:41
Guest79686Banshee media player does not detect my music cd's in ubuntu 11.10, anyone have any ideas?05:43
shadaloono one smart is online right now05:43
bis0nI'm searchin to use wget with recusive directories, but only for directories name "tst" on all tree05:43
KitenGuest79686, you probably didn't burn them as music cd's you probably burnt them as data cd's05:44
robbbieanyone have this issue with nautilus? i need to restore the default icons..05:44
Chr|sDrPenguin, I try running it in terminal and I get shared lib error, no such file or directory. File name the game is looking for is "libSDL-1.2.so.0"05:45
bis0nanyone? need use regex? :/05:45
Guest79686the music cd's are the originals05:45
DrPenguinChr|s: ok thats a good sign ^^ we now know whats the problem is.. can you do a find on that file? maybe its there but its not looking where it is05:45
ubluntuGuest79686: do other programs see your cd's ?05:45
Guest79686no05:46
DrPenguinbis0n: have you tried looking at wgets man page?05:46
bis0nDrPenguin, for sure05:46
bis0nI'm using -I but that don't work05:46
bis0nfor me05:46
SubCoolcan someone help me clean some stupid stuff up. My usb install of kubuntu went a lil crazy. I have tried to install Antivirus stuff on here and its not going very weell05:47
ubluntuGuest79686: does dmesg | grep CD or dmesg | grep DVD show anything ?05:47
SubCoolAvast killed something in its lock file05:47
SubCoolspamassassin freezes05:47
SubCoolidk how to use clam anymore05:47
bis0n-I take /home/tst/ buet not /home/directoryX/tst/05:47
SubCoolbut id like to clear up those two thigns first.05:47
SubCoolalso- after running one of the virus cleaners... it cleared SOME stuff on the WIN host- but- appearently no wehre near as much as needed05:48
Guest79686i don't think so, should i try another media player program instead of banshee/05:48
Guest79686?05:48
SubCoolPM - would be helpful, because im BARELY looking at this screen, and im on webchat05:48
ypsjd#join ubuntu-cn05:48
DrPenguinbis0n: readning the manpage, -l is supposed to specify depth.. how are you exec;ing it?05:49
robbbiethinking about removing everything nautilus and reinstalling it all...05:49
bis0nI'm using -r with default -l (5)05:49
ubluntuGuest79686: you should have something show up in dmesg.... ls /dev | grep cd05:50
bis0nwget -r -l 5 -I tst domain.com/dir/05:50
bis0nok for domain.com/dir/tst but not for domain.com/dir/directoryX/tst05:51
Chipzzzbis0n: maybe it's a permission problem05:51
bis0nChipzzz, no05:51
Guest79686ok i will try that thanks05:51
clear`hey guys, anyone know how to completely remove gnome-shell from ubuntu 11.1005:52
doomroboHi, how does the clipboard work in Linux in general. I'm mostly asking for how it works with unicode keys because apparently it's impossible to create an XKeyEvent using unicode characters.05:53
Chipzzzbis0n: off the top of my head, it looks like the -I is the problem05:54
Dougylmao brock lesnar05:55
bis0n-I is for include directories and I want only dir "tst" so ok, that is the problem, but what can I use?05:55
Chipzzzbis0n: if you know the directory structure, you can give -I a comma separated list, otherwise you have to spyder the domain afaik05:57
forcemp,bis0n : what if you "find | grep -i tst"  first then use the output05:58
bis0nforceflow, that's sound good... but I don't understand how... :/05:59
Chr|sDrPenguin, odd, 32bit version of the game works but not 64bit. I have a 64bit machine.06:00
DrPenguinChr|s: that probably explains your issue06:00
DrPenguinits looking somewhere else for the library06:00
DrPenguinI think.. ldd? that should tell you what its looking for and where06:00
forcempbis0n do you want to share the command that you have so far so we have a better idea of what you are trying to accomplish?06:02
melvincvhi all, I have a old P4 computer with 1GB RAM, 40GB HDD, Intel 845GL chipset. I need good performance. Which Ubuntu should I use? Unity is very slow on it.06:02
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subcoolya, still kinda need tha thelp with virus shit....06:02
subcoolpm please06:02
pangolin!language | subcool06:03
ubottusubcool: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.06:03
subcoolisnt it late enough were the children r in bed?06:03
bis0nforcemp, I'm using "wget -r -l 5 -I tst domain.com/dir/"  ok for "domain.com/dir/tst" but not for "domain.com/dir/directoryX/tst"06:03
pangolinare we all in your living room?06:03
DrPenguinsubcool: im a child at heart06:03
pangolinsubcool: please keep the language clean :)06:03
subcoolok, how do i kill the autolock on avast06:03
Barzoghbis0n: try by adaapting this example to your need : wget -rnd -l5 --no-parent ftp://server.com/dir/06:04
subcoolsomething happen during its update.... and its kinda shot06:04
pangolinno idea, maybe there is a channel for avast06:04
bis0nforcemp, using 'find . -type d -name "tst"' seems to be an good idea but how I can execute that on domain.com/06:04
pangolintry /msg alist list *avast*06:04
pangolintry /msg alis list *avast*06:04
melvincvPlease reply. I have a old P4 computer with 1GB RAM, 40GB HDD, Intel 845GL chipset. I need good performance. Which Ubuntu spin should I use? Unity is very slow on it.06:05
DrPenguinXu/Lubuntu06:05
pangolinmelvincv: Lubuntu should run nice on that06:05
subcoolok... so the spamassasin really isnt something to be ran alone...06:05
forcempbis0n i thought you were trying to accomplish something else. find wont work.06:06
melvincvpangolin: How about Xubuntu compared to Lubuntu?06:06
subcoolpangolin: didnt work..06:06
pangolinmelvincv: either should be good.06:06
subcooljust looking on how to delete the lock file... so that it stops crashing on startup06:06
DrPenguinLubuntu is much lighter weight, but Xubuntu should come with some more goodies06:06
DrPenguineiterh way tho.. your dealing with flux/openbox if im right06:07
bis0nI think I need make an script with regex... :/06:07
DrPenguinof wait.. xfce uses xfwm06:07
DrPenguinI always forget xfwm06:07
melvincvI see. Will I face any issue in usability moving from ubuntu to xubuntu? Different applications?06:09
ubluntumelvincv: nautilus will go to thunar.06:10
ubluntuyou can still use nautilus though06:10
Barzoghnope bad idea if he still wants his computer to run smoothly06:10
* melvincv will try xubuntu then, thanks to all06:11
robbbieanyone install moonlight?06:11
* samsul is away: papung06:12
Chipzzzbis0n: if you run wget once in -S mode, you can generate a .wgetrc for a second run that gets the directories you want :)06:12
dahliaI just installed kubuntu and I want the latest nvidia closed driver but I cant find how to install it. The one I have now is 173. Is there some sekret thing I need to do to get a more recent one?06:12
DrPenguindahlia: you could pull the latest from nvidia.com06:13
dahliafor linux? ty trying...06:13
lalaland1125Htop is claiming that my xorg is using 4 gigabytes of memory. Any idea what is going on?06:13
samsul!ebox06:13
ubottuzentyal is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zentyal (Project formally known as eBox - including in Lucid/10.04).06:13
DrPenguinlalaland1125: … wha? 4gigs? that.. doesnt sound right.. do you even have that much?06:14
lalaland1125I'll post a screenshot06:14
franz_it is possible to use a partitioned USB HD to create bootable usb within loose data from other partition?06:14
lalaland1125http://s8.postimage.org/r6fjsak2b/blah.png06:15
szal!liveusb06:15
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent06:15
lalaland1125How the heck is that happening ↑06:15
Guest48316how do i update a signal package and it's dependence06:16
DrPenguinlalaland1125: that.. is weird.. can you show us your Xorg.0.log?06:16
thomedy675the ubuntu docs arent really helping me06:16
robbbieI have installed moonlight but it appears i am out of luck when it comes to watching netflix, can anyone confirm?06:16
Chipzzzrobbbie: confirmed... blockbuster online won't work either06:17
Chipzzz(afaik)06:17
lalaland1125DrPenguin: I don't think anything funny in going on in the log, but here it is: http://ideone.com/swMqb06:17
lalaland1125It might be that the fglrx driver is consuming alot of the ram. Xinerimera is not exactly the standard configuration.06:18
DrPenguinohhhh hohoho this is fglrx06:18
DrPenguinmy nemesis06:18
DrPenguinI can figure this out06:18
DrPenguinbefore I read too much into it.. its possible that fglrx is getting a TON of ram for the framebuffer06:19
karl-augusttDrPenguin ; do not use Enter as Punctuation!06:19
DrPenguinin some bios, you can assign that, upper values of 2gig, possibly more06:19
lalaland1125That might be. I was abusing firefox before this happened.06:19
DrPenguinkarl-augustt: dont tell me what to do! anyway..06:19
lalaland1125Using an autopager so I got somewhere like 400 pages before it stared swapping.06:20
Chipzzzlalaland1125: according to htop, chrome is taking all the memory06:20
pnormanI just finished moving my ubuntu install to a new case and motherboard and it's not connecting to the network. ifconfig only shows the local loopback interface. ifconfig -a shows the local loopback as well as eth2 and rename306:20
karl-augusttDrPenguin : so you can quit channel, you do not need support discussion, you're ready to life alone!!06:21
lalaland1125Chipzzz: Nah it's only using ~10-15% Xorg is eating it all.06:21
lalaland1125DrPenguin: I think you might be right, that's it caching it for some reason.06:22
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lalaland1125So I only need to dig into the settings for how to flush the cache or something.06:22
karl-augusttDrPenguin : so you can quit channel, you do not need support discussion, you're ready to life alone!!06:22
DrPenguinlalaland1125: can you see if theres an option in amdcccle, and if not, MAYBE (but doubtful) your bios, where it dictates the framebuffer size? also,you might need to look at other settings, if your using Xinerama, things like EnableTearFree desktop do consume a decent amount of Ram06:22
Chipzzzlalaland1125: sorry, you're right... chrome is taking a lot of virtual memory06:23
szal!attitude | DrPenguin, karl-augustt06:23
ubottuDrPenguin, karl-augustt: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines06:23
DrPenguinszal: I dont even use Ubuntu. I dont like Ubuntu. I just chill here to help people06:23
szalDrPenguin: thus stick to the !guidelines please06:23
DrPenguinszal: what guidelines? im talking to lalaland1125 helpign HIM.06:24
Chipzzzlol@DrPenguin... you know an awful lot about ubuntu for someone who doesn't like it much... kudos to you, sir06:24
pangolinDrPenguin: We appreciate it but keep in mind while in here we ask that you follow the guidelines. karl-augustt please do not tell people to leave the channel and try wording your comments a little nicer.06:24
pangolinthere we go. back to support :)06:24
DrPenguinChipzzz: it used to be my Distro of choice, and its what I work on at HP. I mainly use Arch Linux now06:25
JoshuaPI'm about to do a server reboot and will be right back. :)06:26
ChipzzzDrPenguin: Ah... thank you for dropping in to help us out!06:26
DrPenguinChipzzz: heh its nothing.. im just bored really, nothin better to do06:27
karl-augusttpangolin: do not worry, you can take for granted that i'll be correct when working on channel!06:27
lalaland1125Yay, the buffer seems to have cleared itself out, nows it's down to a puny 861 megabytes.06:27
lalaland1125Note to self: never load more than 400 pages in firefox.06:27
szallol06:28
DrPenguinlalaland1125: wait, X is back down to a cute level or is this something completely different ?06:29
lalaland1125It's back down to a cute level.06:29
lalaland1125I assume firefox tried doing something stupid like loading a million textures into the graphics card memory or something.06:29
DrPenguinlalaland1125: good! im glad :). As a recommendation, try a browser like Chromium. Its much more friendly when it comes to CPU and Ram.. its weird that X was the owner of those memory allocations.. thats something to think about06:30
dahliais there a way I can log in to my new kubuntu install without running X? I dont see an option for it on the login screen06:30
DrPenguindahlia: well.. if you boot in single user mode that would do the trick.. what are you trying to accomplish?06:31
dahliaI want to install new nvidia driver but it wont let me if X is running06:31
DrPenguindahlia: oh! thats simple.. just VT swtich (like ctrl alt F2), log in, sudo services gdm stop, install it, then sudo services gdm start06:31
dahliaI tried single user mode but it said read-only file syste,06:31
dahliaty trying that...06:31
DrPenguinprobably because the kernel was passed ro06:31
dahliaservices: command not found06:33
DrPenguinum.. maybe its service then? try that.. I always get this one mixed up06:33
dahliakk06:33
Chipzzz"service" is right06:33
dahliagdm: unrecogniized service06:34
dahliacloser :)06:34
dahliaits kubuntu06:34
pangolinkdm06:34
DrPenguinOH!then its kdm06:34
dahliaty that did something06:34
DrPenguinnow X is dead, feel free to install the driver06:35
chromaticwthow do I disable gdm?06:35
chromaticwtin 11.1006:35
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pangolinchromaticwt: sudo service gdm stop06:37
pangolinerr 11.10 uses lightdm so  I think it is ldm now06:37
chromaticwtoh really? so I guess that's why I couldn't disable gdm.06:37
pangolinwould make sense yeah06:37
Tytherok06:39
tensorpuddingif you upgrade i don't believe it changes it06:39
karl-augusttdo someone have a guide on how to use Archlinux to build a minimal OS?06:39
tensorpuddingor it might give you a choose06:39
tensorpuddingchoice*06:39
pangolinkarl-augustt: #arch06:39
tensorpuddingkarl-augustt, you mean debootstrapping ubuntu in arch?06:39
tensorpuddingthat'd not really be on-topic06:40
ubluntuI think it's #archlinux06:40
DrPenguinthat is correct06:40
karl-augustttensorpudding: exactly06:41
tensorpuddingdebootstrap is available outside of debian-based systems06:41
atvrhi, i need help people. i have an issue trying to instal ubuntu 11.10 with a bootable usb stick, since i am new to linux, and i am a windows user i dont really understand the linux thing, so my problem is im trying to instal, when i boot from the usb stick, i get to the first menu, wich you can choose to only try ubuntu or instal it, but after i have pressed my choice the screen whent black and there is nothing happening, but if a choo06:42
atvrthe probleme is probably with my video card wich is a AMD radeon06:42
atvrmy laptop is an toshiba satallite L745D06:42
pnormanatvr: Your first message cut off with but if a choo06:42
edbianatvr, does try or install work?06:43
wookienzteam, just upgraded to 11.10. Having porblems with connecting to it remotely. Is there a VNC sevrer installed by default? I have remote desktop turned on in the settings, but netstat shows no listening ports for 5500 or 5900. ideas?06:43
atvredbian: no my screen dosnt work06:43
gulzarany duplicate file finder utility.. other than fslint?06:43
guest_I am wondering for software engineers and programmers what their favorite IDE for developing their applications is? Mine is eclipse you can do everything in it from asm to perl , python , java , c/c++ ...etc06:43
pnormanwookienz: did you have vnc installed before?06:43
mebigfatguy_guest_,  and this has what to do with ubuntu?06:44
Stanley00!best | guest_06:44
ubottuguest_: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.06:44
tensorpuddingguest_, that's not really a support question, this channel isn't for polls06:44
edbianatvr, does the USB stick boot on any other computer? (do you have any other computer to test it on?)06:44
atvrpnorman: but if a choose to only try it it can ear the ubuntu theme song in my speaker06:44
szalhow do I select a USB drive to make a startup disk from in usb-creator?06:44
atvredbian: yes i have tested on my desktop and it work06:44
atvralso i have tryied the alternative installation wich does not work ether06:45
edbianatvr, try booting with the nomodeset option:   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=161313206:45
karl-augusttatvr, you have perhaps too problem, if you monitor have no problem , be convainced that you have an uninstable OS on your disk06:45
szalah, needed a kick in the shizzles by un- and replugging the USB pen06:46
atvrkarl-augustt: what do you mean i dont nunderstand06:46
DrPenguinkarl-augustt: its not that.. ive seen this before.. X has issues automagically booting on newer machines06:46
karl-augusttubuntu 11.10 presents again some bugs, so be patient!06:46
atvrDrPenguin: hi , if you remenber about 2days ago i have talked to you about that06:46
DrPenguinatvr: I thought I recognized your issue.. good.. im not any more crazy that I think I am06:47
gulzarany duplicate file finder utility.. other than fslint?06:47
atvrDrPenguin: XD06:47
lalaland1125Hmm it seems Xorg's dance with swap has messed up my sound, now all my songs sound like my mother singing them.06:48
lalaland1125Time to reboot.06:48
Stanley00gulzar: fdupes is also good, but it's command line only06:48
leeprisonhi,everyone .  I have two os  win7 and ubuntu10.04   ,but  i want to update my ubuntu  and i'm afraid to destroy the grub ..how to update safety?06:48
pr0ton_how to switch tabs in terminal?06:48
Stanley00leeprison: how did you install your ubuntu? if you didnt use wubi, then upgrade is just fine,06:49
gulzarStanley00: no prob.. I will try it06:49
DrPenguinleeprison: no need to be worried, Ive done updates before on a dualbooted machine and I havent had an issue (until I updated from Natty to Oneric, but it wasnt grub related)06:49
wookienzpnorman: maybe not then...is there a stock vnc se ubuntu?06:49
Stanley00leeprison: and better way is fresh install06:49
wookienzse/server06:50
Chipzzzleeprison: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is a good option06:50
saurabh_Dls06:50
leeprisonI did't use wubi06:50
karl-augusttDrPenguin: I 've just have a similar problem, I started ubuntu on my usb disk, after a few seconds, I did not have any luminosity06:51
pnormanon a server typically you wouldn't have a GUI.06:51
hounchoutsHi everyone. I've recently got a small VPS. It had CentOS 64 installed but after trying it I wasn't pleased and asked to install Ubuntu (as I originally asked they made a mistake with the CentOS). They installed Ubuntu 10.04.3 but now I can't run simple commands like apt-get and gedit, and constantly get Wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 errors. this is how it looks like when I log in: http://paste06:52
hounchoutsbin.com/grE9yXN006:52
karl-augusttDrPenguin : I remained that in this conditions , my installation still worked!06:52
gulzarStanley00: Thank You06:53
wookienzpnorman: it is to remote back to my main machine when overseas.06:53
Stanley00gulzar: you are welcome ;)06:53
subcoolhelp with fixing avast-06:56
szalsubcool: whole sentences-06:57
karl-augusttatvr: have you find a solution to your problem?06:57
subcoolavast is erroring during ITS startup. Something about its engine error. Not getting much from google06:57
subcoolaside from uninstall reinstall06:58
hounchoutsdoes anyone know why I am getting these ELFCLASS64 errors?06:58
chromaticwtwhat is the best way to create a custom ubuntu cd?06:58
subcoolI also have a killer virus on my friends laptop- which is NOT getting cleared by these virus scanners im using....06:58
chromaticwtwhich tutorial should I use?06:58
Stanley00!remastersys | chromaticwt06:58
subcoolThe virus has rendered the computer pretty useless. i would like to not have to resintall the OS- it is a windwos OS06:58
subcoolXP06:59
atvrkarl-augustt: no07:00
clear`subcool: backup the data and install ubuntu07:00
forcempsubcool did you check all the typical places virus' live?07:00
DrPenguinhounchouts: are you trying to compile and or run a program of one architecture on an incompatible one? like what are you doing07:00
subcoolclear`: not my computer07:01
clear`then its not your problem...07:01
subcoolforcemp: um- no?? i use scanners these days.07:01
subcoolclear`: lol- it is if i plan to get laid.07:01
DrPenguinscanners suck07:01
* subcool feels played07:01
clear`well tell her/him that the best solution is to backup and start fresh07:02
forcempsubcool i fyou dont like the manual method you can try microsoft system sweeper?07:03
clear`well, what virus is it?07:03
subcoolforcemp: her computer is useless it is has locked out EVERYTHING that i can use to fix it. Which doesnt seem to matter, because even the scanners arent clearing it all up07:03
clear`boot in safe mode and do a scan07:03
subcoolclear`: no clue- nothing is picking it up.07:03
tensorpudding!ot | subcool07:04
ubottusubcool: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!07:04
subcoolclear`: way past that07:04
lifestreamIs there another way to make a Windows XP USB (iso to usb) besides with unetbootin ? Because unetbootin does not work with XP (it only shows "Default" on the menu, and it doesn't boot XP)07:04
subcoolcute tensorpudding07:04
karl-augusttdo someone have a guide on how to use Archlinux to build a minimal OS?07:04
DrPenguinsubcool: hes right,, this is off topic07:04
DrPenguin!ot | karl-augustt07:04
ubottukarl-augustt: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!07:04
subcoolim looking for ubuntu help :p07:04
DrPenguinbut.. this isnt an ubuntu problem07:04
forcempsubcool have you heard of system sweeper? its an offline av scanner that mounts the windows registry hives and searches the os for root kits more efficiently.07:05
subcoolsafemode has been destroyed- thus using ubuntu07:05
subcoolthe virus even destroyed the use of network options07:05
tensorpuddingyou can't fix windows from ubuntu07:05
DrPenguintensorpudding: id disagree there, its possible07:06
tensorpuddingeven if you could, it is a windows question07:06
clear`subcool: time to backup and format07:06
DrPenguinbut regardless, this ISNT an ubuntu issue07:06
subcoolits very possible,07:06
subcoolbah-07:06
subcoolk, - imma try to fix these last two scanners and take it from there07:06
subcooli just cant believe nothing is picking this thing up.07:06
ubluntusubcool maybe its a rootkit07:07
subcoolpm me- too much chatter07:08
hounchoutsdrpenguin: no i just started the server. I tried to open gedit or try apt-get but get the same corrupted library errors. I've put it on pastebin if you want to have a look :  http://pastebin.com/grE9yXN007:09
DrPenguinhounchouts: oh man that looks ugly.. whats the output of uname -p?07:10
atvrhow can i put nomodeset when installing ubuntu 11.1007:11
DrPenguinatvr: thats a kernel boot parameter07:11
atvrDrPenguin: ?? can you explan what you said lol like i said i am new to linux07:12
Chipzzzatvr: press space while it is booting into grub and edit the record07:12
hounchoutsdrpenguin: uname -p = unknown07:12
clear`hey guys, anyone know how to completely remove gnome-shell from ubuntu 11.1007:12
DrPenguinhounchouts: Whoa! seriously? ok… what about just straight uname -a? Im thinking your system for some reaosn has NO idea what architechture it is07:12
Stanley00atvr: you can add that via /etc/default/grub07:12
DrPenguinatvr: the Linux Kernel takes parameters when it boots to exec with different options, like single, ro, quiet, splash, etc. nomodeset is one of thos options07:13
Stanley00atvr: add that that the line "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=..." , I think, then run update-grub07:13
atvrDrPenguin: okay but how can i set that, im not able to get into the installation07:13
Chipzzzatvr: are you still trying to boot from the live cd?07:14
hounchoutsdrpenguin: uname -a = Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.32-33-server #70-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jul 7 22:28:30 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux07:14
atvrStanley00: i am not even able to install ubuntu so i cant do that07:14
DrPenguinatvr: you can manipulate the kernel boot parameters when you go to boot for a one time deal07:14
atvrChipzzz: no im from a udb stick07:14
hounchoutscentOS 64 was installed first erronously, as I asked for Ubuntu 32, so they installed Ubuntu07:14
Stanley00atvr: ah, I see, you want to set that option for the liveCD right?07:15
DrPenguinhounchouts: ok.. I wonder why -p gave you an unknown when it sees that its an x64 arch.. I think you might just need to reinstall your server.. maybe you should md5 the iso to make sure its ok07:15
DrPenguinhounchouts: thats ubuntu 6407:15
hounchoutsI asked them to install Ubuntu 32 and they confirmed that. Strange07:15
atvrDrPenguin: when i boot, i see that i can put some command or somthing, it says Boot: in the lower part of the screen so is it there that i have to put something07:15
DrPenguinhounchouts: according to uname its 64..unless they botched something TERRIBLY wrong07:16
atvrStanley00: no i am from a usb boot stick07:16
hounchoutsDrPenguin: thanks, I think I better contact them again, hope they get it right the third time07:17
OrtheboxHi07:17
Stanley00atvr: It's the same as liveCD IMO :), when you at the boot screen, high light the try ubuntu..., press F6 I think, the will popup some option, one of them is nomodeset07:17
atvrStanley00: i am trying that right away :) sorry i am new to linux07:17
OrtheboxHello everyone I'm currently using MacBook Pro 7,1 and I intend to install Ubuntu as part of my triple-boot plan (OSX, WIN, UBUNTU). I just need to know - which edition should I use for my installation?07:18
lifestreamI have Linux only. Does anyone know if I can run flashboot/WinToFlash inside a virtualbox Windows to put XP ISO on USB? I have no cd drive so I'm screwed.  Unetbootin does not work.07:18
Stanley00atvr: everyone is new at the first time ;)07:18
Chipzzzlol07:18
szalinstalling from USB is a very nice way of installing07:19
atvrStanley00: when i press F6 i doesnt do anything07:19
atvrStanley00: could it be the TAB button07:19
Orthebox@szal: I'm using dd.07:19
Stanley00atvr: hmm, did you high light the "try ubuntu..." line at boot screen?07:20
atvrStanley00: cuz i have pressed tab and now there is a command line in bottom of the screen07:20
Stanley00atvr: ah, just exit that command line, press F6 at the boot menu.07:20
Chipzzzatvr: didn't it used to give you a graphic screen with icons to click on for "try" or "install"?07:21
atvrStanley00: yes it more like "Run Ubuntu From This USB"07:21
Stanley00atvr: ooops, did you use unetbootin to create that usb?07:21
atvrChipzzz: no its like a dos menu, i can only us the keyboard to select07:21
atvrStanley00: yes i did07:21
szalbleh..  "Selecting and installing software failed"07:22
Ortheboxubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso or ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso?07:22
Stanley00atvr: I didnt use that tool for a long time... cant remember how to do with it... do you know how to edit a boot option? It's normally said at the bottom of screen07:22
Stanley00atvr: like "press xxx to edit..."?07:23
OrtheboxWhich edition is advised for MacBook Pro 7,1?07:23
Stanley00!ot | Orthebox07:23
ubottuOrthebox: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!07:23
Stanley00Orthebox: oop, sorry, miss your first post :(07:24
OrtheboxStanley00: It's fine :P07:24
OrtheboxStanley00: The Ubuntu wiki suggested Oneiric ... I dunno why07:24
atvrStanley00: no i dont but, when ive pressed tab there is somthing written at the bottom that i can edit, its like" /casper/vm/linuz noprompt cdrom-detect.......07:24
Stanley00Orthebox: all of them is fine. just depend on your system's memory07:25
OrtheboxStanley00: K thanks a lot :)07:25
Stanley00atvr: hmm, maybe it's tab key, you can go to the end of the line said "linux ..." or "kernel ..." then add nomodeset07:26
miadbahramisalam bache ha ki c++ khoob mitoone kar kone baram ye proje benevise07:27
atvrStanley00: yes i just tryed that, then it when to a screen purple that says Ubuntu 11.10 and there was like loading progress bar with dots, then i t went into a black screen that i am able to input some command, the line is ubuntu@ubuntu:~$07:28
Stanley00atvr: hmm, can you try running "startx"07:29
atvrStanley00: so i have put back the nomodeset there, then its says command not found then there was somthing says like loading firmware.... and there some command displaying one after one07:29
Chipzzzatvr: sounds like you have a server edition... if you install it, you can "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" and have a full desktop running in no time07:30
atvrStanley00: do you want me to reboot and try to put your startx comand07:30
wadkarokay, I fudged up my partition table07:30
Stanley00atvr: ah, you run startx at the command screen, which said "ubuntu@ubuntu:~$"07:30
wadkarnow I am constrained by the primary partition limit of 407:31
atvrStanley00: no do you want me to try it ?07:31
Stanley00atvr: yes, you should run startx command07:31
wadkarand I think I will need to remove/resize my extended partition /dev/sda4 which hosts the logical partition /dev/sda5 : my root partition07:31
wadkarwhich is the best way to go about this ?07:32
guest_,07:32
wadkarcan gParted resize my root partition ?07:33
Chipzzzwadkar: do you have a desktop or are you working from the command line?07:33
atvrStanley00: i just retried to put the nomodeset, and now it work i can vue the desktop to try it, so now i am trying to instal it with nomodeset07:33
StepNjumphow can I unpack a .gz file please using tar?07:33
wadkarChipzzz: I have Ubuntu 11.04 amd64 desktop installed on my laptop07:33
Chipzzzwadker: yes gparted is the tool to use07:33
Stanley00atvr: good luck then ;)07:34
Stanley00StepNjump: tar -xvf file.tar.gz?07:34
StepNjumpok let me try that Stanley00 tnx07:34
wadkarI have /dev/sda1 500mb /boot , /dev/sda2 4gb swap, /dev/sda3 100gb ntfs /windows and I hoped to created rest ~400gb space as /dev/sda4 extended, then create logical partitions there07:34
Stanley00StepNjump: np ;)07:35
wadkars/hoped/thought/07:35
StepNjumpStanley00 it says: tar: This does not look like a tar archive. keep in mind it's not a tar.gz but just a .gz07:35
wadkarunfortunately the /dev/sda4 is a megre 50GB , which I thought I allocated to /dev/sda5 my ext4 /root partition07:35
Stanley00StepNjump: then try this  tar -zxvf file.tar.gz?07:36
Humbedoohgzip -d filename ?07:36
StepNjumpno it's file.gz stanley0007:36
Stanley00StepNjump: if that is just gz, not tar, then try gunzip :D07:36
wadkarnow I want to resize my /dev/sda4 so that it can occupy rest, but that means erasing /dev/sda5 , which hosts my OS !07:36
wadkarneed some fdisk-foo badly :(07:37
StepNjumpok and what are the switches of the gunzip Stanley0007:37
Humbedooh...07:37
Stanley00StepNjump: just gunzip file.gz :D07:37
StepNjumpok let me try07:37
Chipzzzwadkar: actually, you're in better shape than you think...07:37
wadkarChipzzz: really? how so ?07:38
Chipzzzwadkar: if i'm reading this right, you have 50Gb for /dev/s4 and 350Gb unpartitioned, right?07:39
wadkaryes, sda4 is the extended one, which has logical sda5 hosting my Ubuntu07:39
wadkarChipzzz: ^07:40
Humbedoohto think if Apache had developed the gz format...07:40
Humbedoohit'd be called apache gunzip :D07:40
Stanley00wadkar: I dont know, if it's like that you could just simple resize sda4 to that unallocate?07:40
gulzarPlease help. Pidgin is showing "not authorised" with gmail. Any solution?07:41
wadkarStanley00: hmm, I can resize sda4, without mutilating sda5 ? never resized anything till date, so not sure how it works07:41
wadkarI am only worried because of sda5 hosting my OS, otherwise I wouldnt mind experimenting/trying out whatever I feel right07:42
Churchwadkar: whatever you do i'd say making backups prior that never hurts07:42
Stanley00wadkar: I think it would be fine, if you not sure, backup averything before you do that :D07:42
Chipzzzwadkar: so if you partition the 350Gb as ext4, you can reinstall the system with a 50Gb "/" volume and a 350Gb "/home" partition, which is a reasonable useage07:42
Stanley00wadkar: backup is alway good practice before you do anything :D07:43
Chipzzz(although the "/" is a bit large)07:43
wadkarChurch: sure, I know that very well, and I have my own backups, but system config is a big task, and I dont want to repeat myself07:43
Churchpitty default ubuntu installer doesn't do lvm. lvm provides great flexibility for allocating disk space.07:43
* wadkar brb07:44
Da|Mummyim stuck with read only filesystem, how do i get out of it?07:44
ChurchDa|Mummy: remount rw?07:44
Churchmount /dev/whateverdevice /mountpoint -o rw,remount07:44
szalExtras doesn't exist for Lucid?07:46
wadkarChipzzz: I do not want to reinstall , that will take too much of my _energy_ (lot of custom installation of dev-tools)07:48
JoshuaPI AMSG'D07:49
wadkaranyways, enough talking, let me ask gParted and see how it goes07:49
* wadkar fingers crossed *_*07:49
Churchwadkar: then backup enough of things to enable restore of whatever that's important to you07:49
Churchbe it data in user home dir, or installed/configured OS07:50
Churchfor later, backup files/dirs of OS. bootloader probably can be reinstalled from eg. bootable install media07:50
wadkarChurch: I will still have to recompile from source, and I forgot the custom flags and all, not worried about booloader, i know enough grub-foo to boot my sda5 off sdb1's grub :D07:51
Churchif you restore those files, shouldn't you be left with state you are now with all that custom compiled stuff?07:52
Churchas for future, i suggest to document. many admins forget that (important) step.07:52
Churchmight be as simple as copypasting entered commands to download/compile stuff into some .txt file. :)07:53
wadkarChurch: yeah, agreed , completely. But I am not sure if I linked against custom libs, but yeah. I get your point07:53
wadkar*sigh* , gParted wont resize my sda4 will I umount sda5, which I (obviously) can't07:54
jpkSay I have a ubuntu server with all the packages I want installed, and I want all the same ones installed on a second machine.  Is there a handy way to get a list of packages from the first machine so I can install them all on the second?07:54
wadkars/will/till07:54
Churchwadkar: try boot from other media?07:54
wadkarhow about liveCD ?07:54
wadkarChurch: bingo !07:54
* wadkar slaps his forhead for forgetting that he can has only one extended partition?07:56
Da|MummyChurch, where do i specify the filesystem in that?07:56
Chipzzzwadkar: you could try copying sd5 into sd4, booting into sd4 and resizing sd5 to take up the rest of the disk07:57
dbazuin_I am a mac user who want to give ubuntu a go and i have a machine with xp and citrix on it. What is the easist way to clean that thing and install ubuntu?07:57
langlang_xchat  lost words.07:57
ChurchDa|Mummy: you can of course add -t fstype, but in most cases kernel should autodetect, or read entry from /etc/fstab, no?07:57
wadkarChipzzz: perhaps you didnt get my " fdisk -l  /dev/sda " , the sda4 is the hosting extended partition, the logical sda5 is part of extended sda4, i can not have the latter without the former07:58
Churchdbazuin: depends on what you need. eg. some dualboot setup, or linux only box. but in any case i'd backup first.07:58
almoxarifedbazuin_: you want to add to or remove what is on the machine and go ubuntu?07:59
dbazuin_Linux only07:59
OrtheboxHi I'm using a MacBook Pro 7,1 and I want to install Ubuntu, should I take the amd64 or i386 one?07:59
Chipzzzwadkar: you're right, i didn't...sorry07:59
dbazuin_Yes almoxarife07:59
Da|Mummyno go here...mount: you must specify the filesystem type07:59
dbazuin_It is a spare07:59
almoxarifedbazuin_: during the install you are asked something like 'use it all'??, do and the machine will be 100% ubuntu08:00
dbazuin_Ok so i download it and copy it to the pc08:00
almoxarifedbazuin_: no,08:00
wadkardbazuin_: yes, look for 'use entire disk' or 'automatic partitioning'08:00
OrtheboxHi I'm using a MacBook Pro 7,1 and I want to install Ubuntu, should I take amd64 or i386?08:00
wadkardbazuin_: you will need to burn a CD or figure out Mac way to create USB image08:01
almoxarifedbazuin_: you d/l the iso, burn to either disk or usb and then install08:01
Churchdbazuin: i'd create install on usb disk for simplicity. and before overwriting everything double check if there isn't something you need that should be backed up08:01
DrPenguinOrthebox: if your mac has a 64bit proc use 64bit, otherwise use 3208:01
langlang_how to reslove that problem which is xchat lost words.08:01
dbazuin_How big need the usb08:01
almoxarifedbazuin_: 1gig08:01
dbazuin_Realy?08:02
dbazuin_Thats easy then08:02
Churchoh. hmm, he has mac? ubuntu will have no problems with booting on that? (i have no experience with whatever custom apple might have put in their macs, even though x86 ones)08:02
almoxarifedbazuin_: the iso is about 698+-08:02
dbazuin_Cool08:02
dbazuin_I want also tomrun lamp08:02
dbazuin_On it08:02
wadkardbazuin_: is the machine Mac or a generic PC with XP+citrix installed ?08:03
dbazuin_Just a dell08:03
almoxarifedbazuin_: btw, use the 'alternate' and be hardwired to the internet for the best outcome08:03
Churchhmm, for server? i'd prefer centos to ubuntu probably.08:04
dbazuin_Ok that is a slide probelem08:04
wadkardbazuin_: then you dont have to worry about anything, just go with standard tools, you can find tutorials/guides for LAMP'ing your OS08:04
wadkarChurch: it may not be a production server, so don't have to push the RHEL stack right away08:04
almoxarifedbazuin_: don't sweat it, go with what you got08:04
dbazuin_Thanks guys08:04
wadkaryw08:05
wadkarohhk guys, thanks from me too, I will have to figure out a way out on my own on a LiveCD it seems08:06
wadkarwish me luck -_-08:06
dbazuin_Somwhow i can only connect to the net with a citrix pc08:06
Churchwadkar: it's just that centos is close enough to rhel. so as we use mostly rhel or oraclelinux for servers, centos often fills role for close enough thing for cheap development/test installs. Lesser the zoo of miscellaneous OSes/releases, less headache with supporting that.08:06
dbazuin_But we get a seperate line08:07
Churchi don't wish to introduce more OSes to our supported zoo :)08:07
dbazuin_So better wait for that?08:07
wadkarChurch: agreed , but the OP may not even be considering a production server, he might want to try out LAMP and see whats what08:07
wadkarChurch: I myself installed CentOS 5.7 few weeks ago (with only IUS for PHP-MySQL), works great !08:08
wadkardbazuin_: why do you need LAMP stack ? to run a production quality server ?08:08
dbazuin_No development08:09
dbazuin_Drupal08:09
wadkardbazuin_: will you be managing deployment/production server ?08:09
dbazuin_I want to se if ubuntu is a good alternative08:09
dbazuin_No08:09
dbazuin_The site go to a host when the done08:10
dbazuin_I hate windows08:10
dbazuin_Love mac08:10
wadkarthen Ubuntu might be best suited for you (assuming no prior linux experience) , the SysAd of your host will take the burden/headache of configuring your code-base for live production server08:10
wadkaryou go with what feels right for you as a dev08:10
wadkarlet the Ops/SysAd worry about deployment issue08:11
* Church hates 6th release of redhat/centos and alikes though. Less fit for running in xen, and that freaking new upstart init. I had big pile of headache with trying to replicate what i need and had in normal inittab to work in upstart. And from what i heard, in next releases upstart gonna be replaced once again to something else :/08:11
dbazuin_Or bussiness is pc only08:11
dbazuin_So when I can not get mac in it i can get ubuntu08:12
dbazuin_Plus i heard a lot about it lately08:13
dbazuin_My compliment to you all you a relaxed bunch here love that08:14
Guisepehello08:14
Guisepeaircrack ubuntu 11.10 instaling08:16
lakeHow can I list all installed packages?08:17
Churchdpkg --list08:18
atvrStanley00: hey, now ive been able to instal it, but i cant boot lol i need to put back the nomodeset command but i dont know how08:19
Churchatvr: at bootloader go to entry of os, type 'e', edit booting line with adding needed options08:20
Stanley00atvr: dose it show up a menu to choose OS when you power up your PC?08:20
eFfeMhi, anyone an idea on how to install ruby-sinatra on ubuntu 11.10? It fails because it cannot meet a dependency on ruby-rack (known issue, ubuntu Bug #843734   ) ; seems the package in 11.10 is called libruby-rack08:20
ubottuUbuntu bug 843734 in ruby-sinatra (Ubuntu) "dependency problem, does not install" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84373408:20
atvrStanley00: yes, and i have tryed pressing shift while boot to enter the grub menu08:20
atvrStanley00: i have pressed e to edit the command line08:20
atvrStanley00: and i think a have to replace something but i dont now what08:21
Stanley00atvr: then, there a line says linux ... , just add monoset at the end of that line08:21
Stanley00s/monoset/nomodeset/08:21
atvrso it will look like that `linux... quiet spash vt.08:22
atvrso it will look like that `linux... quiet spash vt . handoff=7 s/monoset/nomodeset/08:23
ChipzzzeFfeM: is the lib in the repo?08:23
atvrStanley00: is this correct08:23
Stanley00atvr: just "linux... quiet spash vt . handoff=7 nomodeset" :D08:24
eFfeMChipzzz: according to Bug #905304   yes (but the name is librack-ruby, not libruby-rack as I wrote before)08:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 905304 in Oneiric Backports "Please backport ruby-rack 1.3.1-1 (universe) from precise" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90530408:25
eFfeMno idea how to apt-get install a deb with modifying or ignoring the deps08:26
Stanley00atvr: and remember to edit the /etc/default/grub or you have to add nomdeset every system startup08:27
SyriaHi! i was trying to change the sound output device so i can use HDMI but not i have no sound at all!! how can i get the original settings please?08:29
atvrStanley00: sorry it didnt work, i think it made my network wifi drop08:29
badboy_jonathan/dev/audio08:29
almoxarifeSyria: what did you use to change it ?08:30
atvrStanley00: do you have an idea about what can i do, the edit didnt work08:30
Syriaalmoxarife:  I have changed the hardware from sound preferences and did something with alsamixer!08:30
Stanley00!nomodeset | atvr , I dont know, you could try this08:31
ubottuatvr , I dont know, you could try this: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter08:31
almoxarifeSyria: something? remember what you did? perhaps mute? look for 'MM' in alsmixer08:31
ChipzzzeFfeM: aptitude is better at resolving problems like that than apt-get... you might try that08:32
eFfeMChipzzz: will try that, thanks08:32
Syriaalmoxarife:  master volume and speaker are at 97% but some other values can not be changed, like S/PDIF08:33
almoxarifeSyria: ok, close alsamixer and go to 'sound' preferences08:33
Syriaalmoxarife: Done.08:34
almoxarifeSyria: look at 'hardware', what's picked?08:34
Syriaalmoxarife: Analog stereo dublex.08:34
SyriaDuplex*08:34
almoxarifeSyria: you looking at hardware tab?08:35
Syriaalmoxarife: Yes.08:35
atvrStanley00: i cant find anything with that link, but if i try ereasing all what is after quiet splash ans then put nomodeset, do you think it will work08:35
almoxarifeSyria: the first text line is "Analog stereo duplex' ???08:36
Syriaalmoxarife: Nope, it is the last one.08:37
Stanley00atvr: I last think I can think of now if clear "qiuet splash", add "nomodeset" to see what happen, then search for that info in the internet08:37
almoxarifeSyria: how about the first?08:37
Syriaalmoxarife: The first one is analog stereo input.08:37
almoxarifeSyria: those are the 'profile' choices?08:38
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Syriaalmoxarife: I am at the hardware tab and I have >> settings for the selected device>> its a drop down menu.08:39
antipragmatistHi.08:40
antipragmatistYour version is: java version "1.6.0_23".08:40
antipragmatistThe correct version is: Java SE 1.6.08:40
almoxarifeSyria: above that, 'device to configure' what is highlited?08:41
atvrStanley00: so i did that, and now i have this written on the screen, ``vincent"vincent-Satellite-L745D:08:41
antipragmatisthow do I force it to think it is 1.608:41
atvrStanley00: and it scrap my wifi conection every time im trying to boot :S08:41
Syriaalmoxarife: I can control which device to configure from the drop down menu below. anyway i have analog stereo duplex.08:42
Stanley00atvr: anything else? that line doesnt look like an error message.08:42
almoxarifeSyria: I am looking at the screen from 11.10, and you?08:42
Stanley00atvr: can you disable the wifi interface when booting? looks like it's not the video card issue08:42
Eartakeranyone know how to setup dual monitors so that it wont split a fullscreen game onto both monitors but also when not in game to be able to drag applications from one monitor to another.. I have tried seterate X screen and twin view...08:42
Syriaalmoxarife:  11.0408:43
massrevivalistDoes anyone want to be my friend?08:43
Syriaalmoxarife: I will show you a screenshot.08:43
atvrStanley00: at the end of the line i can put some command08:43
ubluntumassrevivalist: I do08:43
atvrStanley00: i cant disable the wifi08:43
massrevivalistNice08:43
Syriaalmoxarife: Please: http://uploads.eb2a.ae/1325321032882.png08:44
almoxarifeSyria: lets see the 'output' tab08:44
Syriaalmoxarife: http://uploads.eb2a.ae/1325321130638.png08:45
dahliaI see a little message come up that says updates are available for my freshly installed kubuntu but I dont see any way to tell it to install them08:46
Stanley00atvr: I think it's out of my ability  now, sorry, you should ask someone else. sorry. I have never met this kind of issue.08:46
dahliais there an update manager thing somewhere?08:46
almoxarifeSyria: alrighty, dummy-output came from ??08:46
Syriaalmoxarife: analog stereo duplex.08:47
almoxarifeSyria: nope08:47
Syriaalmoxarife: where did it come from?08:47
almoxarifeSyria: where is the hdmi hardware you brought up before?08:48
Syriaalmoxarife: I have an HDMI port in my laptop.08:48
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atvrStanley00: Stanley00: not it says, to run a command as administrator (user ``root``), use ``sudo (command)``08:52
atvrStanley00: and i just dont know why its fuckking my wifi08:53
Stanley00atvr: hmm, looks like some thing it says on the live USB. how did you install this, and what iso image did you use08:53
almoxarifeSyria: I have hdmi and analog, I see both on my setup, I only see one piece of 'hardware' , 'internal audio analog' on yours, and where I would expect to see the same 'internal..................' in 'output' I see 'dummy....' , that does not just happen by virgin birth, something was done to cause that,08:53
atvrStanley00: ive installed by a usb boot stick and ive use the alternative .iso from ubuntu08:54
Stanley00atvr: did you install a full desktop or just the command system only?08:55
almoxarifeSyria: try to logout/in and look for a default setup, you can hope08:55
atvrStanley00: full desktop08:55
Syriaalmoxarife: I will, Thank you for your time. :)08:56
atvrStanley00: would it be easyier if i would download the not alternative iso, and burn it on a cd and to instal it put the nomodeset command08:58
Stanley00atvr: I dont get it, if you use an alternate cd to install, it will not need the nomodeset parameter, since it wont boot in GUI.08:59
antipragmatisthow to kill package manager build?09:00
antipragmatistit is stalled09:00
antipragmatisthow to kill package manager install ?09:00
Stanley00atvr: if you could boot into the command line interface, you may run "startx" to start GUI, and then find for some wifi issue in the internet.09:00
almoxarifeStanley00: have you used the 'alternate' install?09:00
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Stanley00atvr: I'm not good at hardware problem.09:00
Stanley00almoxarife: I use that once, with 9.10 :D09:01
almoxarifeStanley00: that's all I ever use, and it will take you to a gui after install09:01
almoxarifeStanley00: the 'alternate' is for quirky setups, and if you read up something written after 9.10 you will find that it is recommended for just that!09:02
almoxarifeanyone else getting the ssl handshake error? got a fix?09:05
Stanley00almoxarife: and... what are you trying to point out? I dont get it.09:05
almoxarifeStanley00: I was pointing out that you were offering opinion on something you have no experience with, as you made clear when you brought up '............. 9.10 smily'09:07
Stanley00almoxarife: I didnt said anything about alternate cd with him, and also alternate cd has option to install CLI, and he said he cant boot into gui, so I just make sure he installed a full desktop.09:08
atvrStanley00: i have a cd with ubuntu 9.04 on it, do you want me to instal this version to see if it will work, and if it work i will update to 11.1009:09
swebmy wireless card disappear !!!09:10
Stanley00atvr: I dont think that's a good idea.09:11
beyondcrhello could you point me to the 12.04 channel?09:11
Stanley00!pangolin | beyondcr09:11
ubottubeyondcr: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) will be the sixteenth release of Ubuntu. Codename announcement here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/784 | Discussion and support in #ubuntu+109:11
beyondcrthanks09:11
swebWTF dlink-dwa-52509:11
atvrStanley00: i know but for now i just dont know what to do09:11
swebon ubuntu09:11
swebhow can i debuging that ?09:11
beyondcr#ubuntu+109:12
Stanley00almoxarife: can you suggest something, atvr's wifi not working, and freeze his system09:12
JackDacksHello everyone. Sorry to bother you but I'm wondering if you know any Backtrack IRC channel/server ?09:12
almoxarifeStanley00: that's my point, 'alternate' IS a full desktop install, the bonus is that it was made for QUIRKY hardware, so as to facilitate in getting the install done 100% , it does ask that you be connected to the internet via hardwire09:12
Stanley00!alis | JackDacks I dont know, but try this09:13
ubottuJackDacks I dont know, but try this: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu*09:13
JackDacksthank you09:13
atvralmoxarife: so it would be better for my to install with the non-alternative version09:13
atvrme**09:13
almoxarifeatvr: no, it would be best if you use the 'alternate'  and be connected to the internet via ethernet. can you do that?09:14
mecoWhere do I find Google Chrome on my system?09:14
atvralmoxarife: no i am on a laptop i would prefer using wi-fi09:15
ChefBagginsalmoxarife, atvr, sorry to jump into your conversation but wouldn't it be better to start with Ubuntu 10.04 LTS if it's the first use?09:15
atvrStanley00: if my windows running un 64bit, can i download ubuntu 11.10 64bit09:15
ChefBagginsmeco: you must download it wia google09:15
mecoChefBaggins: I have it, just need to locate it09:15
JackDacksThank you for your help. Have a good day. Bye09:15
almoxarifeatvr: good luck09:15
Stanley00atvr: yes, you can09:16
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atvrStanley00: okep i will try to install it via a burnt cd and with the non alternative ios, maybe it will work09:16
ChefBagginsmeco: have you installed it? if not it would be in your download folder, if you did in internet section of application (I do thing you've been there therefore, check "edit menus" if it's not present)09:17
mecoChefBaggins: I need to find it in terminal...09:17
ChefBagginsmeco, we're getting there! :D google-chrome09:17
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Stanley00atvr: good luck, but you can use the USB to install, it's just the same as the liveCD, there's a tool on the homepage to make liveUSB from window09:18
almoxarifeChefBaggins: I noticed that I was able to get hdmi to work out of the box with the 11.04 install, using 'alternate' , but not 11.10, not sure about 10.04 , if he upgrades those things always screw something up (my experience)09:18
mecoChefBaggins: google-chrome: command not found09:18
almoxarife!chromium-browser09:19
almoxarife!info chromium-browser09:19
ubottuchromium-browser (source: chromium-browser): Chromium browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 15.0.874.106~r107270-0ubuntu0.11.10.1 (oneiric), package size 18844 kB, installed size 69092 kB09:19
mecoalmoxarife: found it :-)09:19
almoxarifemeco: chromium is not chrome, just in case09:20
quiescensi sense people are misinterpreting the question09:20
almoxarifequiescens: my god? here? I can't believe that09:21
almoxarifesmily face09:21
mecoalmoxarife: Does Google have more than one browser?09:21
Eartakeranyone know wht no matter what disk i put in my drive it askes me to insert disk when I try to bun an iso?09:23
Eartakerwhy*09:23
almoxarifemeco: depends I guess, chrome is the store model, and chromium is their testbed, sort of the same thing but not, I use chromium and accept that things might go wrong09:23
atvrdoes anyone haved an issue installing ubuntu 11.10 with a amd radeon graphic card09:23
mecoalmoxarife: OK, I just need it for temporary use until I can get firefox back up...09:24
Eartakeratvr: install 10.0409:24
almoxarifemeco: dude/ette, chromium is steak to firefox09:25
atvrEartaker: do you think it will be working fine cuz its a 1month old laptop09:25
Eartakeratvr: what issues are you havving09:25
Eartakerhaving09:25
mecoalmoxarife: steak? better or worse?09:25
almoxarifeatvr: you must have a ethernet connection on that beast, why not connect it while installing09:25
man_man_top_coolbonjour à tous09:26
almoxarifemeco: better :)09:26
cockmasterIs it possible to dual-boot Ubuntu with Mac OS X Lion on a Macintosh computer?09:26
mecoalmoxarife: Is that everyone's opinion?09:26
atvrEartaker: black screen, it does not detect my screen, and it fuck up my wifi09:26
HordekingHey, is there a known issue with the Wifi Broadcom drivers for the 4312 LP-PHY? I'm having major issues, with fresh installations.09:26
man_man_top_coolsorry, l have only windows09:26
man_man_top_coolmy english is not good09:27
atvralmoxarife: i could plug into ethernet while installing but after could i use my wifi09:27
almoxarifemeco: sort of, according to the polling people, its getting ahead of firefox and IE, ie??? yeah, hard to believe09:27
HordekingI'm getting ready to roll back to the 10.10 LTS version.09:27
almoxarifeatvr: yes, that will work09:27
man_man_top_coolnobody is french here ?09:27
almoxarifeHordeking: from where?09:27
mecoalmoxarife: Yeah.. I might have to switch then...09:27
atvralmoxarife: okep then do you suggest me to instal 10.04 instead of 11.1009:28
ChefBagginscockmaster: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook09:28
Hordekingalmoxarife: From where? From the official ubuntu website,09:28
man_man_top_coolalmostroot, france09:28
ChefBagginsman_man_top_cool: oui, moi09:28
HordekingIt "just worked" before 11.1009:28
almoxarifeatvr: nope, be strong, do ittttttttttttttttt09:28
man_man_top_coolah09:28
HordekingI skipped 11.0409:28
man_man_top_coolouf09:28
cockmasterChefBaggins: Thank you kindly.09:28
almoxarifeHordeking: no, I mean from what version are you downgrading?09:29
ChefBagginsman_man_top_cool: vient sur #ubuntu-fr ce sera plus simple09:29
man_man_top_coolChefBaggins, je cherche un site pour vuze09:29
Hordekingalmoxarife: 11.1009:29
Ben64how can you downgrade09:29
HordekingBen64: Easy. Blow away the OS, install an earlier version.09:29
Ben64thats reinstalling09:30
almoxarifeHordeking: may I suggest not, try plasma-desktop, its 10.04 with the 3.0 kernel09:30
atvralmoxarife: XD so will instal a fresh copy of 11.10 and plug into the ethernet, but i will have the black screen issue do you, so does the nomodeset is ok, becaus that the way i was able to instal it earlyier today09:30
HordekingBen64: Call it what you want, but the current version is BADly broken.09:30
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ChefBagginsman_man_top_cool: que veux-tu dire par un site pour Vuze?09:30
Ben64Hordeking: i 'upgraded' from 10.04 to 12.04... big mistake09:30
kerrybfirst time I've tried ubuntu.... i tried 11.10, didn't like it.....tried 10.04, it's much better09:30
Hordekingalmoxarife: What does plasma-desktop do?09:30
The_PhoenixWhich one is the 64bit torrent? AMD64? Isn't it AMD only?09:30
almoxarifeatvr: and you will use the 'alternate' iso, too09:30
pp7kerryb: LOL y?09:30
atvralmoxarife: and my pc work on 64bit do you recomend me to use ubuntu 64bit, and the non alternative or the alternative09:31
Ben64i haven't seen such a broken ubuntu since Gutsy Gibbon09:31
pp7Ben64: upgrades never work09:31
almoxarifeHordeking: gives you all that config you had with 10.0409:31
Ben64pp7: sure they do09:31
quiescensdowngrading the distribution as a whole is not recommended and unlikely to have anyone support it09:31
pp7Ben64: always failed for me, something always breaks09:31
quiescensof course you made backups before trying to upgrade to an in development release09:31
kerrybpp7:  probably because i'm still using windows classic which is more similar to windows 98 LOL09:31
almoxarifeatvr: use the alternate 64 install09:31
Ben64pp7: on this computer, i went Edgy -> Feisty -> Gutsy -> Hardy with no problems09:32
quiescenswhich isn't due out for 4 or so months09:32
atvralmoxarife: but after i have installed the 11.10 with nomodeset i was not able to boot again even if i had edit the grub comand09:32
almoxarifeatvr: use the alternate 64 install and you promised to be hardwired to the internet09:32
Hordekingalmoxarife: I don't need a special config. I just want working wifi. Right now, I have to do constant ifconfig <interface> down; ifconfig <interface> up09:32
pp7Ben64: oh, i started at hardy09:32
The_PhoenixAnybody? Am looking for Ubuntu 64 bit torrent for Intel. Which is the right one?09:32
Ben64I had really bad experiences with Gutsy, going to stick with LTS versions now09:33
Ben64The_Phoenix: the amd64 version09:33
libnotifyI am looking into building a small shell account server. any way i can configure the server so that users are able to download what they need but not change system settings?09:33
The_PhoenixBen64: Isn't AMD64 for AMD only?09:33
Ben64The_Phoenix: nope09:33
jpdsThe_Phoenix: No.09:33
ChurchPhoenix: as most cpus from amd and intel know support 64bit, i'd probably choose depending on ram ammount. upto 2-3GB - i386 version, 4 and more - amd64.09:33
Ben64amd was first with 64 bit, so they win09:33
almoxarifeatvr: screw all that terminal stuff till it comes up, for the love of god, just get the install out of the way, btw, those install options are pretty generic, don't get carried away with exotics during the install, straight forward put system on machine09:33
HordekingI really didn't think wireless was going to regress with a fresh install up to 11.10.09:34
Ben64Hordeking: wait, what happened with your wireless?09:34
fidellibnotify: what do you mean by "downloading what they need"?09:34
The_PhoenixI have 4GB. But, the AMD64 and Intel64 have slight differences.09:34
NimeshNeema!man ubottu09:34
HordekingBen64: Hardware is probably fine. OS seems to have major issues with it now.09:34
NimeshNeema!man09:35
ubottuThe "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the  command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal | Manpages online: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/09:35
The_Phoenixhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64#Differences_between_AMD64_and_Intel_6409:35
NimeshNeema!apt09:35
ubottuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Adept (KDE) or !KPackageKit (KDE)09:35
Ben64Hordeking: on 10.04 my laptop was doing fine with wireless, on 12.04 i'm getting ~10% of the throughput as 10.04 did09:35
atvralmoxarife: okay i will try to install it right away i will download the alternative installation, and if i have issue regarding the black screen can i ask you some help09:35
quiescensThe_Phoenix: the biggest difference being that nothing actually uses intel's IA64 these days09:35
almoxarifeHordeking: during an install ubuntu calls back to mama, well it would unless you got wifi and its secured09:35
jpdsThe_Phoenix: Intel 64 is something completely different.09:35
HordekingBen64: My wireless was flawless with 10.10, but cam barely stay up.09:35
libnotifyfidel: mean if they like want to install console apps09:35
jpdsThe_Phoenix: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itanium09:35
Ben64Hordeking: intel wireless chip perchance?09:35
almoxarifeatvr: sure09:36
HordekingBen64: broadcom. Was working fine for 9.04 through 10.1009:36
The_PhoenixAnyway, thanks for the clarification Ben64, jpds and quiescens. Am just trying to get the 64 bit version for a Sandy Bridge i3.09:36
cockmasterCan I somehow hack a way to port Ubuntu's apt-get to Mac OS X?09:36
Ben64The_Phoenix: the amd64 version is what you want then09:36
fidellibnotify: i doubt you are willing to give shell-users access to apt09:36
atvralmoxarife: my hardware is a amd vision a6 so does i have to download the 64bit-pc amd6409:36
The_Phoenixthanks Ben64.09:36
libnotifyyes exactly09:37
HordekingI'm very surprised my wifi hasn't needed a reset yet...09:37
almoxarifeatvr: you want the 'alternate-amd64-11.10'09:37
Ben64i wonder what changed for wireless to break09:37
HordekingBen64: Possibly the kernel itself?09:37
almoxarifeHordeking: are you using wifi(n)?09:38
HordekingBen64: I saw something like that.09:38
libnotifyso there is no way to give them access to apt but they are unable to make system changes?09:38
fidellibnotify: how about adding a custom welcome message including a mailadress a la: user-wishes@your-domain.whatever and handle that part manually in case someone really needs something?09:38
Ben64Hordeking: i guess it could be...09:38
Hordekingalmoxarife: Not that I know of.09:38
atvralmoxarife: okep, and one last thing lol would it be possible for you to give me a direct link for the download only to make sure i really have the good thing09:38
Ben64I should try compiling an older kernel09:38
Hordekingalmoxarife: My router is a WRT54GL09:38
cockmasterIs it possbile to install some version of Ubuntu on an iPad?09:38
Hordekingalmoxarife: It was certainly working before I took the OS up to 11.1009:39
almoxarifeatvr: nope, I would be doing the same thing you need to do, I will be glad to verify your link though09:39
atvralmoxarife: http://ubuntu-cd.mirror.iweb.ca/oneiric/ubuntu-11.10-alternate-amd64.iso09:40
Hordekingalmoxarife: There do seem to be major wifi issues with Ubuntu 11+09:40
almoxarifeHordeking: I don't use wifi at home, wife does though, so I use her as a test-bed (she don't know it) , and the router has a lot to do with the quality of the wifi09:40
Ben64almoxarife: my wireless has gotten very bad after upgrading too09:41
almoxarifeatvr: looks good, torrent would be faster but good09:41
Hordekingalmoxarife: Even if it seemed to be flawless before? I don't seem to get a poor connection. I get a downright intermittent one, and it's only solved by resetting the interface with ifconfig.09:41
atvralmoxarife: yeah but i dont have bit torrent09:41
cockmasterCan any of you Ubuntu niggers tell me if there is any way to use Ubuntu as a tablet? Like some Android tablet but Ubuntu instead?09:42
pp7cockmaster: refine your language please09:42
almoxarifeatvr: d/l it regular method09:42
atvralmoxarife: okep09:42
kerrybmy only internet acces is dialup....do i need to download a package to use dialup? which package do i use?  http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/comm/09:42
almoxarife!ops09:43
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atvralmoxarife: thanks alot for your time09:43
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almoxarifecockmaster: you need to go09:43
ngochoanviet nam oi09:43
ngochoanviet nam oi09:43
FloodBot1ngochoan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.09:43
ngochoanviet nam oi09:43
cockmasteralmoxarife: Why?09:43
pp7cockmaster: racial remarks are not welcome09:43
cockmasterOk, sorry. Where are the #ubuntu rules to read?09:44
elkycockmaster, in the /topic09:44
ChefBagginscockmaster: yes there is a way to install Ubuntu on a tablet, the best for you is to google that...09:44
Hordekingalmoxarife: Even if it seemed to be flawless before? I don't seem to get a poor connection. I get a downright intermittent one, and it's only solved by resetting the interface with ifconfig. It's terrible.09:45
quiescenstecchhnicallyy09:45
Humbedoohnooo09:46
allu2Hello, my ubuntu 11.10 suddenly lost support for my USB headset09:46
Humbedoohnot quiescens in here too :(09:46
allu2i see it in volume settings "Hardware" section and i can select it but it doesn't appear on other menus09:46
almoxarifeHordeking: I gave up on wifi in the house, tried the ethernet via electrical line? the voip phone runs flawless on it, just a bit lower than regular ethernet09:47
allu2also the test speakers button gives me menu that looks like i'd have 5.1 stereo set yet even there none of the test work for the headset09:47
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fidellol09:48
Eartakerwhat is the command to see the device name of a disk drive?09:48
Humbedoohdf ?09:48
Eartakerhmm09:49
almoxarifeEartaker: 'computer'?09:49
Hordekingalmoxarife: My main box has an ethernet, which works fine, after the D-Link from 4 years ago in it still isn't supported. The wifi issue is with a laptop computer, where ethernet isn't a very viable option.09:49
quiescens..09:49
Eartakerits not seeing my disk drive09:49
Eartakerbut im I insert a disk it pops up and mounts09:49
Eartakernot for a blank disk though09:50
Humbedoohhow would you mount a blank disk anywho :<09:50
Eartakeri guess you woulding but im trying to burn a iso09:50
jonsainthi all. i got pidgin messenger which i just set up. problem i got is i got one single box telling me no accounts set up and to go to accounts to add one. problem is, i cant find out how to get there as i only got this single box telling me that09:50
HordekingI'll probably just blow the current OS away and roll back to 11.10. I didn't care for the fact that I had to go to so much trouble to get gnome back anyway.09:50
HordekingRoll back to 10.1009:51
almoxarifeEartaker: nevermind seeing it, what are you trying to do with your blank?09:51
Eartakeralmoxarife: trying to burn a iso09:51
Humbedoohk3b is your friend :>09:51
Humbedoohor gnomebaker09:51
almoxarifeEartaker: brasero?09:51
Humbedoohor brasero09:51
EartakerI have tried K3b but it dosnt see it09:51
Eartakerand brasero09:51
EartakerK3b says this:09:52
EartakerK3b did not find any optical device in your system.09:52
EartakerSolution: Make sure HAL daemon is running, it is used by K3b for finding devices.09:52
mysteriousdarrenHordeking: are you that much in love with gnome?09:52
almoxarifeEartaker: brasero does not see the drive with the blank in it?09:52
Eartakeralmoxarife: nope09:52
Hordeking mysteriousdarren: I like my desktop real estate, and I kind of like having the taskbars :) But wifi is the killer here.09:53
almoxarifeHordeking: join #kubuntu for a sec09:53
Hordekingalmoxarife: #kubuntu09:53
Eartakermy disk drive is also not in "computer"09:54
NimeshNeemaapt09:55
mysteriousdarrenHordeking: well switch to a different de and then there is no reason to roll back09:55
Sidewinder1Eartaker, It may be a "+RW, -RW", issue; I have two 'burners (a +RW and a -RW) and sometimes a blank will only work (be seen) by one.09:56
EartakerSidewinder1: its a cd-r09:56
Eartakernot dvdv09:56
Eartakerdvd09:56
NimeshNeemahow to install java on 11.1009:56
Sidewinder1Eartaker, R stands fro 'read' W stands for 'write', those designations are used on both CDs and DVDs.09:58
poojaNimeshNeema: sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk09:58
Sidewinder1for, even; 'tis early here. :-)09:58
EartakerSidewinder1: i know this... its not hardware it works fine in windows09:58
mysteriousdarrenHordeking: what are you problems with wifi?09:59
HordekingI can't even figure that out. It just goes down a lot, for no reason. I have to do an ifconfig down on it, then an ifconfig up to get it back.09:59
HordekingIt seems to do it more when I'm actually using the connection, though10:00
Sidewinder1Eartaker, Actually I think I made a mistake (fancy that), the W means re-writable, sorry.10:00
Hordekingmysteriousdarren: It wasn't having this problem on 10.10, so I highly doubt it's a hardware problem.10:01
Hordekingmysteriousdarren: I don't recall dmesg giving any illumination10:03
mysteriousdarrenreinstall the driver?10:03
Hordekingmysteriousdarren: I've tried. I've tried just reinstalling the OS itself. I've tried the b43-fwcutter and stuff, etc10:04
cipherssonsuck my balls unity10:04
mysteriousdarrenciphersson: even though I do agree with that statement better watch it10:06
kerrybdoes ubuntu support a dialup connection?10:07
mrhankyi have a ubuntu net-install with xorg and xbmc. since xbmc crashed one time ubuntu wont boot, it will hang with the message "mountall: disconnected from plymouth"10:08
mrhankythat's the second time this is happening and i have no idea how to fix it10:08
Sidewinder1!modem | kerryb10:09
ubottukerryb: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up10:09
kerrybubottu thanks!10:09
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)10:09
Sidewinder1:D10:10
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Sidewinder1Finally, someone who's spelling is worse than mine. ;-)10:12
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mikeruhey, how can I recompile the alsa drivers?10:19
mikeru(I only want to recompile the snd-hda-codec-cirrus one)10:19
chromaticwtwill the next release of ubuntu use python 3 by default instead of python 2?10:20
oCeanchromaticwt: you can discuss the next release in #ubuntu+1 channel10:20
mikeruI'm on 11.10. I tried apt-get source alsa-drivers, patched the patch_cirrus.c file (a minor tweak, changing the GPIO1 to 2 for the iMac's headphone jack to work) and when I debuild'd and installed the packages it told me to install m-a to compile the drivers10:21
mikeruI did10:21
mikerubut10:21
chromaticwtok10:21
ariefagei have blackbuntu10:21
ariefagei'm from indonesia10:21
ariefagehi all10:21
mikerucompile fails with <linux/smp_lock.h> not found (which is no longer needed)10:21
oCeanariefage: please not that blackbuntu is not a supported ubuntu derivative, and offtopic here10:22
oCeanplease note*10:22
mikeruI can't help but wonder -- with what sources do the ubuntu maintaners build packages? aren't the source packages supposed to be the same as the one used by them?10:22
atotclic!voice es10:23
linxehmikeru: you could grep the source to find where else that file is referenced10:23
mikeruit does include patches in the debian dir but most of them actually break compilation even more (and some actually add the <linux/smp_lock.h> to the sources)10:23
mikerulinxeh: yes I did. then I had to edit some @CONFIG_(something)_KERNELSRC@ to @CONFIG_(something)_KERNELDIR@10:24
mikeruand then, I stumbled upon some #include "imgs/cssomethng.h" which can't be found10:24
mikeruand indeed, there's no imgs folder.10:24
mikeru(and there are like 4 includes to files in that dir)10:24
oCeanmikeru: you could ask in #ubuntu-devel channel10:25
mikeruoCean: ok, will do. thanks10:25
hrolfWhy is the difference between the normal Firefox and the one installed in Ubuntu?10:26
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atotclic!voice <voice name>10:29
ubottuatotclic: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)10:29
Sidewinder1hrolf, I would assume that "normal" FF is windows based and the latter linux based; different directory structure, different plug-ins, etc..10:29
atotclic!voice spanish10:30
oCeanatotclic: what are you looking for?10:30
Sidewinder1!es | atotclic10:30
ubottuatotclic: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.10:30
hrolfSidewinder1: By 'windows based' do you mean MS Windows OS?10:30
Sidewinder1hrolf, Yes.10:30
Sidewinder1hrolf, I'm assuming that's what you meant by 'normal.'10:31
hrolfSidewinder1: If the other one is for Linux, then why is it Ubuntu only. Shouldn't it be like Firefox for Linux rather than Firefox for Ubuntu10:32
hrolfSidewinder1: I think it is mostly like something with Ubuntu10:33
flux242hi, i'm trying the following diff <$(grep some strings myFile) <$(grep some string myFile2)10:34
flux242what is the right syntax for this?10:34
flux242or how it is called correctlry so i google for it10:34
samba35how to add mod_proxy_html in apache10:35
flux242that a command output is interpreted as a file descriptor10:35
Sidewinder1hrolf, Perhaps have a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox  It states that it's linux compatible as well as other OSs.. Most certainly not an exclusive ubuntu browser regarding it's *nix varient.10:36
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atvri need to install a fresh copy of ubuntu 11.10 on my laptop with a usb boot stick, how do i format my hdd10:37
hrolfSidewinder1: I know that. I think you didn't understand the problem (or I failed to explain it.)10:37
icerootatvr: why not using the recommend layout ubuntu will suggest?10:38
acer_arif10:38
acer_heloo10:38
hrolfatvr: Get Ubuntu on your USB stick and then, during installation you will be able to format your HDD as you desire.10:39
ekakelaatvr: the installer lets you partition and format your drive during the installation10:39
atvriceroot: cuz i am installing with the alternative version and the only thing i can do is rescue the previos version10:39
Sidewinder1hrolf, Perhaps you're correct; it's early, here and I need my second cup-o-coffee. Please feel free to restate your question.. BRB.10:39
oCeanflux242: I'm not sure how to do that in a oneliner. You could do a  grep strings file1 > grep1.out  and same for file2, then run  diff grep1.out grep2.out10:39
sl1ckI've fallen in love with LXDE! I regret not trying it any sooner.10:39
atvri am new to linux10:39
nixmaniacki have USB Mouse attached which I can see in `lsusb`, how can identify which file from this "/sys/bus/usb/devices" directory belongs to mouse?10:39
atvrcould you exlaine me step by step the how to, it would be very apreciated10:39
hrolfatvr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick10:40
icerootatvr: the alternate should offer "kill all data on the hdd and make a new install"10:40
flux242ok, I've found the correct syntax10:41
sl1ckHow do I switch keyboard layouts in LXDE?10:41
almoxarifeatvr: you don't need to format a thing, if the usb is ready then start the install10:41
jbuchanansl1ck: xmodmap would probably be easiest.10:41
* WiLd_TuRkeY dies from to much technology10:41
atvrwhen i am at the first menu, wich i can choose to only try it or install it, when i press enter on the install, my laptop beep and it dose nothing10:42
sl1ckthanks jbuchanan, now how do I add a second keyboard layout?10:42
szalhmm..  how do I browse network shares w/ Thunar (XFCE; Lucid)?10:42
almoxarifeatvr: you are using the live cd?10:43
ariefagewww.blackbuntu.com10:43
atvralmoxarife: yes with a usb10:43
ariefagedownload it!10:43
oCeanariefage: don't post that here10:43
ariefagethis great10:43
ariefageupss.10:43
ariefagesorry10:43
ariefageim new here10:43
atvralmoxarife: i am at the installer boot menu10:44
ariefagesorry sorry10:44
almoxarifeatvr: ok, so that's the live cd on usb10:44
atvralmoxarife: yes it is10:45
linkuxhow i can install themes from gnome.art.org on UBUNTU 11.1010:45
atvralmoxarife: you suggest me to put it on my usb to instal it do you remember lol and you suggest me too plus into the ethernet for the installation too10:45
atvrplug**10:46
linkuxneed help how i can install themes from gnome.art.org on UBUNTU 11.1010:46
linkuxneed help how i can install themes from http://art.gnome.org/ on UBUNTU 11.1010:47
Churchlinkux: you could simply google for that instead of repeating question10:47
theadmin!repeat | linkux10:47
ubottulinkux: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/10:47
almoxarifeatvr: I remember suggesting the 'alternate-amd64-11.10'10:47
atvralmoxarife: yes10:47
oCeanChurch: please don't refer to google here, thanks10:47
Churchhmm, why? :/10:47
theadmin!google | Church10:47
ubottuChurch: While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.10:47
linkuxok thanks10:48
atvralmoxarife: so how do i instal it10:48
almoxarifeatvr: no idea, you have the livecd install according to what you just said earlier10:49
silus!ops ClubHOuSe fucker!!10:50
ubottusilus: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)10:50
silus:)))10:50
FloodBot1silus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:50
atvralmoxarife: i dont know if its the live cd instal, my screen is in black and white and to choose the option i have to use the keyboard10:50
Sidewinder1!ru | silus10:51
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silusno need10:51
bazhangsilus, why do you call that10:51
troydmwhat's the best way to connect to host using ssh when you have a bunch of keys in keychain that are getting offered and server hits too many authentication errors?10:52
silusi`m new here just want to see iff it works10:52
troydmis it possible to explicitly specify with-password option ?10:52
atvralmoxarife: i will try somthing, i have a cd here that make me able to format the hdd so i will format and then try to instal it, does that sound good10:52
troydminstead of offerening all those keys10:52
pnormantroydm: It's possible to set up ssh to only offer a specified key or use a password10:52
almoxarifeatvr: (02:42:19) atvr: when i am at the first menu, wich i can choose to only try it or install it, when i press enter on the install, my laptop beep and it dose nothing <-- I don't believe 'try' is an option of alternate10:52
Sidewinder1silus, Guess you got your answer. :)10:52
troydmpnorman: yes, using -I  iguess?10:53
bazhangsilus, it's only for channel emergencies, don't do that again10:53
atvralmoxarife: but i have downloaded the alternat version, and in the .iso it says alternat10:53
troydmpnorman: but what if i want password authentication10:53
pnormantroydm: You can either do it in ~/.ssh/config or with a command line option. The exact syntax escapes me10:53
silusok bazhang :_)10:53
atvralmoxarife: it dont says try it but run it on this usb, sorry for that10:56
WiLd_TuRkeYgot my first mention on twitter from the homenaway :D10:56
oCeanWiLd_TuRkeY: please use #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat10:56
troydmfound it10:56
troydmalias sshp="ssh -oPasswordAuthentication=yes -o HostbasedAuthentication=no -o PubkeyAuthentication=no"10:56
WiLd_TuRkeYsorry oCean thort i was in another general chat-room10:56
pnormantroydm: Ah, there you go. You might want to look at setting up your ssh config to not offer so many keys up to unspecified hosts10:57
almoxarifeatvr: what did you use to place the iso on the usb?10:57
troydmpnorman: yeah that might be another way10:58
nigelbHi, what's the right way to get rid of this dpkg error for this package? I don't care about the package, I'm happy to remove it http://paste.ubuntu.com/788733/10:58
atvralmoxarife: uneversal usb installer, ive download it on ubuntu web site10:58
siluswhat is that line ?11:01
silusalias sshp="ssh -oPasswordAuthentication=yes -o HostbasedAuthentication=no -o PubkeyAuthentication=no"11:01
pnormansilus: that was what troydm used for his ssh problem11:01
siluswhat was his ssh problem?11:02
troydmsilus: it's an alias (basicly shortcut) to a full command11:02
pnormansilus: too many keys11:02
troydmsilus: of ssh password only authentication11:03
silusto many keys so what?11:03
pnormansilus: ssh can authenticate with keys instead of passwords11:03
silus.ssh is login telenet and all the passwords?11:03
silusand can`t go wild?11:03
troydmsilus: when i try to use ssh to connect to host instead of offering me to type password it rejects my connections11:03
troydmsilus: because my ssh is offerening him a lot of keys11:04
troydmsilus: before offerening password11:04
silusis a ubuntu problem?11:04
silusyes i found this problem to.11:05
troydmsilus: no sorry, it's general type of problem11:05
phoenix_firebrdanyone here familiar in reading S.M.A.R.T data?11:05
pnormansilus: it's an odd problem to have. using key based authentication isn't too uncommon, but having too many keys isn't too frequent11:05
pnormanphoenix_firebrd: what's your question11:05
idaixbonjour11:05
phoenix_firebrdpnorman: i will paste my smart data here, can you tell be what is the status of my harddisk?11:06
pnormanphoenix_firebrd: use pastebin or something, smart data can be fairly long.11:06
ThorneHow do I fix this long wait for network configuration..  Waiting upto 60 seconds  etc... .11:06
siluspnorman so. how can this be fixed if you don`t have acces to a system only with the ssh 22 and the system gets you out?11:06
phoenix_firebrdpnorman: ya sure11:06
pnormansilus: Not sure what you're asking. It's unlikely you have the same problem troydm had.11:07
siluspnorman i have this problem on 2 servers11:07
Thornehmm11:07
phoenix_firebrdpnorman: http://paste.ubuntu.com/788738/11:07
troydmsilus: can you ask your question again11:07
troydmsilus: cause i can't find it in chat history11:08
siluspnorman so. how can this be fixed if you don`t have acces to a system only with the ssh 22 and the system gets you out?11:09
silustroydm.. how can this be fixed if you don`t have acces to a system only with the ssh 22 and the system gets you out?11:09
pnormansilus: What is the this you talk about?11:09
blinkyhello11:09
silusyou can`t insert the password.11:09
troydmsilus: by "get's you out" you mean it just rejects connection using ssh ?11:09
blinkyi got a question for you guys11:09
silusthe system after you inserted the usernames get`s you out.11:10
troydmsilus: ohh, you are trying to use root password or simple user?11:10
troydms/root password/root i mean11:10
silusbouth11:10
pnormansilus: what's the command you're using to try to connect?11:10
silusI use putty11:11
Sidewinder1!ask | blinky11:11
ubottublinky: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience11:11
troydmsilus: simple vanilla ubuntu installation without any tinkering of ssh?11:11
siluson win xp..11:11
silusdunou man11:11
blinkysure, thank you sidewinder and ubottu11:11
silusi don`t really install them11:11
troydmcan you do ssh -v yourssh@yourip11:11
silusonly update them.11:11
troydmand copy paste the output to pastebin11:11
blinkymy question is11:12
pnormansilus: exactly what are you putting into the Host Name field in putty?11:12
blinkyis the ssh links (https) traced by the isp?11:12
atvrin rescue mode can i format or delet partition11:12
troydmsilus: you are using putty? then get it's log and see what the error is?11:12
silusI have things to do right now. not really for searching the 2 servers of the 1000 i have. se ya next year with this problem.11:12
silushave a good night.11:12
siluslet the party starting@!! :_)11:13
pnormanblinky: an ISP could track where you're SSHing to, but that wouldn't enable them to sniff the connection11:13
oCeanblinky: https is ssl, not ssh. And I think the ##security channel would be more appropriate to ask11:13
blinkypnorman, then how do i block the isp from tracking me?11:13
[transcoders]manis it true that ubuntu 12.04 is coming to smartphone devices too???11:14
oCean[transcoders]man: channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion on 12.0411:14
phoenix_firebrdpnorman: what about my harddisk?11:14
pnormanblinky: not really on topic for here, you'd be better off with a different chan11:14
pnormanphoenix_firebrd: not seeing anything wrong with the smart info. keep in mind, a drive can fail with no warnings and smart only catches some errors11:15
Sidewinder1phoenix_firebrd, I took a quick look too, and didn't see anything 'outta-wack'.11:16
phoenix_firebrdpnorman: one small doubt, the column type says prefailure and oldage, can you tell me what does it mean?11:16
phoenix_firebrdSidewinder1: what is the column which says the expected value ?11:17
pnormanit tells you what kind of indicator it is. pre-fail indicators are likely to change when something goes wrong. old_age will change as the drive gets old11:17
pnormanphoenix_firebrd: generally when a drive starts going, the VALUE of all sorts of attributes decrease to under TRESH11:18
Sidewinder1phoenix_firebrd, I'm not sure and wouldn't want to tell you the wrong thing. "Power-On" time appears to be a little over a year, correct?11:19
phoenix_firebrdSidewinder1: ya11:19
phoenix_firebrdpnorman: so is my drive failing11:19
pnormanphoenix_firebrd: I don't see any VALUEs under their THRESH11:20
phoenix_firebrdpnorman: can a faulty smps falsify a smart test?11:20
pnormansmps?11:21
phoenix_firebrdpnorman: ya11:21
munzxtttmerry christmas! :) .... i am using ubuntu 11.04 and tried KDE which i think has corrupted some files as i get strange screens on booting/closing evern after i removed kde .... how can i fix it and is there is away to get back to a clean 11.04?!11:21
pnormanI'm asking what smps is.11:21
Sidewinder1phoenix_firebrd, Other than 'Smart-Data' are there any other symptoms that you're experiencing or does it appear to be running fine? Regardless of your answer, Back-Ups are your friend. :-)11:21
phoenix_firebrdpnorman: 2 of the power terminals of the smps wont work11:21
pnormanhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/788745/ is an example of a smart status from a drive that exhibited a problem (bad cable)11:22
pnormanphoenix_firebrd: What is a smps?11:22
phoenix_firebrdpnorman:  switch mode power supply11:22
pnormanOh. A bad power supply wouldn't cause smart to be wrong, it would cause errors that smart isn't designed to detect11:23
munzxtttmerry christmas! :) .... i am using ubuntu 11.04 and tried KDE which i think has corrupted some files as i get strange screens on booting/closing evern after i removed kde .... how can i fix it and is there is away to get back to a clean 11.04?!11:24
phoenix_firebrdpnorman: when i use a power socket from smsps which is faulty  with the dvd writer, the drive keeps on seeking and its ok whn i use a good terminal11:24
Sidewinder1phoenix_firebrd, There's no software, that I'm aware of that'll diagnose a potential PSU problem.11:24
pnormanphoenix_firebrd: sounds like a bad voltage rail that one is on but the other isn't. smart isn't designed to detect that kind of problem11:25
phoenix_firebrdSidewinder1: thats right :)11:25
pnormanSidewinder1: lm_sensors can sometimes11:25
phoenix_firebrdpnorman: ya11:25
Unirgyhi, was anyone able to compile dazukofs successfully? thanks11:25
phoenix_firebrdpnorman: mine was a warranty replace one ,  they gave me a certified repaired one11:26
angelawhat should I do if xubunto does not recognice the wireless device of a netbook11:26
Sidewinder1phoenix_firebrd, The good news is that refurbished/reconditioned PSUs are relatively inexpensive; even if you need a 1000 watt, server PSU.11:27
pnormanSidewinder1: owfs could also be used to read PSU voltages11:27
Sidewinder1owfs?11:27
Sidewinder1Like DVM?11:27
pnormanone wire file system, for reading one-wire sensors. you'd have to have the appropriate hardware11:27
Sidewinder1Digital Volt Meter?11:27
phoenix_firebrdpnorman: in the Raw_Read_Error_Rate higher is better or lower is better?11:28
pnormanhigher is good11:28
Sidewinder1Well, thanks guys, I just learned two things.. :-)11:28
phoenix_firebrdpnorman: so that means if it reaches less than 6 , then something is wrong11:29
pnormanphoenix_firebrd: smartctl will then return a non-zero exit status, indicating something is wrong.11:29
phoenix_firebrdoh11:30
pnormanphoenix_firebrd: in my server i monitor the smart statuses so I can tell if something starts changing11:30
phoenix_firebrdpnorman: is there a frontend for smartctl?11:30
Sidewinder1pnorman, Sounds like a mis-nomer, I would've thought that any 'error rate' lower would be better than higher..11:30
pnormansmartctl is a frontend :)11:30
pnormanSidewinder1: higher=good with SMART11:30
phoenix_firebrdpnorman: no i mean a gui front end11:31
pnormanphoenix_firebrd: Not sure. I don't use a GUI. I graph my smart stuff with munin. Anyways, off to bed11:31
Sidewinder1pnorman, Nighty- night..11:32
phoenix_firebrdpnorman: tahnk you11:32
phoenix_firebrdpnorman: thank you11:32
phoenix_firebrdSidewinder1: thank you11:33
Sidewinder1phoenix_firebrd, My pleasure; just wish I could've helped more. :D11:33
phoenix_firebrdSidewinder1: you helped me enough11:34
Sidewinder1Kewl.11:34
Sidewinder1OT, but I used to own a 1978 Firebird, Formula. ;-)11:35
Sidewinder1And lived in Phoenix, for a bit..11:35
phoenix_firebrdSidewinder1: you mean a pontiac?11:36
Unirgyis there a real time anti-malware solution for linux to monitor file system? i've tried avira and avg, but they require dazukofs module, which doesn't compile, tried maldetect, but inotify process works only on immediate directory and crashes11:36
phoenix_firebrdwish you all a happy new year11:37
tapashi, i'm using the xmonad window manager and still like to use nautilus to manage files sometimes11:37
tapassadly it looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/hxwKe.png11:37
tapas[left side of the screen]11:37
tapasi wonder how i can make nautilus use the right icons again..11:38
mysteriousdarrenUnirgy: bitdefender?11:38
tapasthis is a fresh 11.10 install from yesterday11:38
Sidewinder1Unirgy, I'm not sure but I don't think there's much demand for that sort of thing in *nix. You might be interested to read this, if you haven't already: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51081211:38
Unirgymysteriousdarren: did you use it?11:39
mysteriousdarrenUnirgy: yes the other one I have tried is ahh....looking for it11:39
MyrGreetings, I have a question about Wubi and the windows (XP) Boot.ini ... How do I get my wubi install to boot again?11:40
MyrCouldn't find anything useful with google11:40
Adrian_Hi guys I have had ubuntu dual booting some years ago and just took a look at the new live distro and thought it looks amazing! Went to install on my brand new rig and I can't install ubuntu to the ssd I bought?11:41
Sidewinder1Myr, It's just my opinion but WUBI is simply to try ubuntu, in a win environment; if you like ubuntu, install it and dual boot. This link will help w/WUBI and installation: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index11:42
zsoltapas, there's a gnome howto on the xmonad site11:43
smile4everWhen trying to compile Gnash..11:44
smile4everWARNING: NPAPI (mozilla) plugin is enabled, but your compiler11:44
smile4ever                 does not support symbol visibility. This may cause11:44
Adrian_Has anybody had trouble installing ubuntu to ssd, there is some talk of issues in google but no definitive you can't?11:44
smile4ever                 the plugin to malfunction and may result in small11:44
smile4ever                 children being eaten. You have been warned!11:44
FloodBot1smile4ever: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:44
smile4everO.O11:44
Okochawhen i want to visit a web-site I have to wait for 20second. I think it's for DNS. anybody there?11:44
MyrSidewinder1: Okay... but how is that helping me to get back into ubuntu?11:44
tapaszsol: yeah, i used to use xmonad as wm in gnome, but this is not a gnome session...11:44
mysteriousdarrenUnirgy: ESET has a linux client too11:45
Unirgymysteriousdarren: thanks11:45
smile4everMyr: what's the problem? :)11:45
mysteriousdarrenUnirgy: nvm about ESET, use bitdefender it works awesome and the other one was crap11:46
Sidewinder1Myr, As I sated, that link has some info on WUBI; I can't answer your question as I've never used WUBI (I wouldn't touch WUBI, with your keyboard).. ;-) Sorry I have no definitive answer for you. :-(11:46
Myrsmile4ever: Reinstalled Windows XP after getting my kernel rewritten by a hacker after getting in with a backdoor, Forgot to save the settings of my Boot.ini ... :(11:47
smile4everand now you want to fix ubuntu? :)11:47
mysteriousdarrenUnirgy: plus its a free license for home users11:47
MyrWell, I need the line that links my boot menu to my grub menu11:47
mysteriousdarrenhttp://www.bitdefender.com/business/antivirus-for-unices.html#Technology11:47
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MyrBut I have no idea about windows Boot.ini xD11:48
smile4everxD11:48
Unirgymysteriousdarren: trying to find the download link, http://www.bitdefender.com/business/antivirus-for-unices.html#Overview - only to purchase11:48
smile4evernow you are in XP? :)11:48
MyrAye :(11:48
Sidewinder1Myr, Couldn't you simply re-install WUBI?11:48
MyrAye, I could11:48
Okocha#dns11:48
smile4everMyr: or install Ubuntu directly :)11:48
smile4everWith GParted fixed in one hour :)11:48
smile4ever^^11:49
mysteriousdarrenUnirgy: look at the little tab on the upper lefthand side11:49
mysteriousdarrennear realted links11:49
Unirgymysteriousdarren: oh got it11:49
MyrCould do ubuntu directly, but it always goes wrong with dualboot installing11:49
smile4everMyr: with me it doesn't :)11:49
Adrian_Myr: I have dual booted before always found very straightforard.11:50
mannershey guys was wondering if someone11:50
mannerscould help11:50
smile4everyeah, we'll try if you explain your problem :)11:50
mysteriousdarrenmanners: what is the problem?11:50
Sidewinder1Myr, The beauty of dual-boot is that you can do all of your 'Net' stuff in ubuntu and be almost totally secure; save the win os for games, Auto-Cad, etc..11:50
auronandacemanners: that would depend on the problem11:50
Adrian_smile4ever: have you ever tried dual booting win7 and ubuntu to ssd11:50
mannersiv got an old netbook with ubuntu on and its basically just gonna be a media server using ushare and a nas controller for the usb hdd11:50
Sidewinder1Myr, What error do you get when trying to install dual boot?11:51
smile4everAdrian_: I'm dualbooting Windows 7 and Lubuntu (on a hard disk drive)11:51
mannersiv got the hdd showing up on it but when using samba i can see the share but cannot access it11:51
mannerson my windows 7 machine i mean11:51
smile4evermanners: samba is crap :|11:52
mannersnow i have changed the settings in windows 7 as i used to have this drive on a openwrt box11:52
smile4evermanners: use dropbox :)11:52
mannerslol what can i use11:52
mannersahh kk11:52
MyrWell, my grub dies... It boots directly to the grub prompt11:52
mannerscan it handle ntfs file systems11:52
Adrian_smile4ever: I have done xp and ubuntu some time back but love the 11.10 look, just rebuilt a beutiful rig on a shoestring and was only planning on using the ssd as nice and quiet11:52
smile4everyes ;) dropbox can11:52
Sidewinder1Myr, Live CD or USB stick?11:52
MyrLive CD11:52
mannerskk will install that now11:53
mannersalso whilst on the subject11:53
Adrian_smile4ever: gparted or any ubuntu I have tried can't see the ssd?11:53
mannersi tried changing the permissions on the drive to give everyone access to read and write but it keeps changing them back again11:53
Sidewinder1Myr, OK, did you Md5sum the ISO image prior to burning, at the slowest speed to the CD?11:53
Unirgymysteriousdarren: looks like the free download is only scanner, without real-time protection11:53
MyrYes11:54
smile4everAdrian_: hmm, problem :(11:54
mysteriousdarrenUnirgy: my apologies11:54
Adrian_big tried running a live session in win 7 but is no good live iso usb can see it but not size format anything?11:54
Sidewinder1Myr, What version of ubuntu?11:55
Myr10.1011:55
Unirgy:( thanks11:55
d4nt3can somebody help me....how to recover file in formatted ntfs external HD?11:55
MyrOr atleast 10.X11:55
Guest4399hi11:55
Guest4399want some help on ubuntu11:55
d4nt3can somebody help me....how to recover file in formatted ntfs external HD?11:55
Adrian_d4nt3: can try recover my files it on torrent I have always had some results, just install and select drive and run.11:56
auronandaced4nt3: you want to recover a file that was on the external hd before it was formatted as ntfs?11:56
mannersdoo dropbox11:56
smile4everd4nt3: go to a pc shop and let help you :)11:56
smile4everi don't know any tools for linux11:56
mannersdo i really need dropbox seems like a comlex way of doing things11:56
Sidewinder1Myr, Dang! I'm using 10.04 with Grub Legacy, not Grub2.. Not really sure what the problem might be. I'd read through the link that I gave you and see if anything 'pops-out' at you..11:56
MonkeyDustd4nt3  you accidentally deleted files? if yes, use scalpel to recover the files11:56
Adrian_smile4ever, d4nt3: pc repair shop is much easier!11:57
smile4evermanners: you could also install a vpn :)11:57
Guest4399exit11:57
d4nt3but how to recover .iso file?11:57
MonkeyDustd4nt3  you deledet it?11:57
atvrdoes the installation from a usb stick is defferent from a cd11:57
Adrian_has anybody succesfully installed any linux distro to a ssd?11:57
Sidewinder1d4nt3, Have you looked into "Testdisk?"11:57
d4nt3i have already use testdisk and photorec11:57
mannersi just want to share the files on the home network though11:58
auronandaceAdrian_: plenty of people have installed ubuntu to ssd11:58
MonkeyDustd4nt3  try scalpel11:58
atvrdoes the installation from a usb stick is defferent from a cd11:58
MonkeyDust!info scalpel| d4nt311:58
ubottu'd4nt3' is not a valid distribution: hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, maverick, maverick-backports, maverick-proposed, medibuntu, natty, natty-backports, natty-proposed, oneiric, oneiric-backports, oneiric-proposed, partner, stable, testing, unstable11:58
MonkeyDusthm11:58
auronandaceAdrian_: perhaps somebody has the same model ssd as you, try searching the ubuntu forums11:59
d4nt3foremost can recover .iso file?11:59
smile4evermanners: i really hate samba because it fails very much :S11:59
Adrian_auronandace: help me I have just built a new tower on a budget treated myself to an ssd, so quiet and quick, win 7 is great, ubuntu can't see the ssd details ie size format?11:59
d4nt3i format the HD in windows...then can i get back all the file including .iso file?11:59
smile4everEvery time i tried to use it, it didn't work11:59
mannersthe strange thing is if i share the root12:00
oCeansmile4ever: don't blame smb then12:00
d4nt3i use photorec but photorec recover file that i don't own12:00
auronandaceAdrian_: how new is the ssd, what model is it?12:00
mannersi can get into everything on there except the usb hdd12:00
Sidewinder1d4nt3, If both of those were totally unsuccessful it may be gone.. :-(12:00
mannersits as if the permissions are whats stopping me12:00
Adrian_auronandace: corsair force 90, christmas present but not a new release I don't think!12:00
auronandaceAdrian_: try searching the ubuntu forums for that model12:01
d4nt3if its gone...then im going to kill myself...for using my thumbdrive as swap12:01
Ben64you can make publicly writable directories with samba12:01
auronandaceAdrian_: sorry i can't help more but i have never used ssds12:01
d4nt3thats affect my HD...12:01
Adrian_auronandace: will have a look now.12:01
mannersyes if the permissions would change12:02
mannersi have samba running and its working doing what it should do anyways12:02
Sidewinder1d4nt3, Not to sound totally goofy, but I feel your pain; that's why I'm a back-up, nut.12:02
waferwow ;)12:02
waferhi ;)12:02
Sidewinder1wafer, Hey!12:02
mannersother than the fact the usb hdd cannot be accessed12:02
mannersbut as i said im unable to change the permissions on that drive12:03
d4nt3im thinking of getting my linux mint.iso file...but now its gone...and it take hours to download it...again12:03
waferi'm new user ubuntu ;P nice OS :D12:03
waferwhere is firefox???12:03
icerootwafer: installed by default12:04
Gentoo64wafer, should be on the bar on the left12:04
mannersif i right click the actual drive and go to permissions it says the permissions of elements could not be determined12:04
icerootwafer: if you are not using lubuntu firefox is installed by default12:04
waferah, is ;)12:04
waferi have conntact with world :D12:04
icerootwafer: almost everything you need should be installed by default (libreoffice and flash are not installed by default)12:05
Sidewinder1manners, Open it with a file mgr. click on a dir or file and click 'properties'; that should give you the permissions, at least for that dir/file on the ext.12:05
waferbtw. sorry  with my language ;)12:05
mannersis there something i have to do to take ownership of this drive12:05
waferi from poland ;p12:05
icerootwafer: there are also country-specific channels12:05
iceroot!pl | wafer12:05
ubottuwafer: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.12:06
waferXChat i have in polish version; )12:06
waferok, thanks12:06
Sidewinder1manners, sudo chown -R usernamr:username /media/disk-name..12:06
maxagazhi12:07
Sidewinder1username, even. :-(12:07
idaixbonjour12:07
Sidewinder1!fre12:07
maxagazwhen doing grub-update, I get this error : /etc/default/grub: 11: i8042.nopnp: not found12:07
Sidewinder1!fr12:07
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.12:07
irljk12:07
maxagazhow to repair this problem ?12:07
irlhappy christmas12:08
Gentoo64irl, christmas is over :)12:08
auronandace!cookie | Gentoo6412:09
ubottuGentoo64: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!12:09
Gentoo64aw :)12:09
Gentoo64i hope its triple choc12:10
Sidewinder1Christmas Spirit should be present all year. OT, Side hits himself..12:10
Sidewinder1!botsnack12:10
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!12:10
GamoderHi everyone, what is the minimum connection speed where it does not make sense to compress ssh -X any longer?12:10
mannershmm that didnt work12:10
Gentoo64maxagaz, what problem are you having? is it with a touchpad or ps2 key/mouse?12:10
icerootGamoder: ssh -X is always a bad idea and very slow12:11
Sidewinder1manners, It always worked on my 5 external eSATA/USB drives.12:11
Gamoderok, so is there an alternative for getting single applications displayed over a network?12:11
icerootGamoder: and what does the connection-speed have to do with compression?12:11
lalagirlHi everyone. I'm installing Ubunti12:11
mannerslol well it didnt say it failed12:11
mannersjust if i goto /media12:12
icerootGamoder: nx is a good alternative but its a complete session and not only one application12:12
GamoderWell - the slower the connection, the more useful should compression be because de/compressing takes time but transferring data takes time as well12:12
Gamoderyeah, I only want one or two applications12:12
mannersright click elements then look at permissions there still as defaults and if i change any and press close they dont actually change12:12
lalagirlHow long does it take to install Ubuntu?12:12
icerootGamoder: the level of compression has more to do with cpu speed then connection-speed12:12
coagulaif im running a command line build, but want to use a web browser with flash (gui), would setting up a chroot jail and building an instance of X maintain the integrity of my system?12:12
icerootlalagirl: depening on the hardware 15-60 minutes12:12
Sidewinder1manners, Perhaps sudo chown -R username:username /media/what-ever the mount-point and or UUID?12:13
almoxarifemaxagaz: could you pastebin your /etc/default/grub12:13
Entvexhello how do i add a launchpad PPA key to my apt keyring?12:14
lalagirlWhile its installing Ubuntu, it says "Retrieving file 59 of 69 (30s remaining)" why?12:14
Gamodericeroot: Well - but if I got a slow connection then, if I transfer more data (no compression) it will take more time than if I transfer less data (with compression) - on the other hand, if I got a slow cpu it will take more time if there is more to do (compression) than if there is less to do (no compression)12:14
Gentoo64lalagirl, its downloading stuff12:14
GamoderI got a 2,3 Ghz i5 processor and about 700 kb/s speed12:15
lalagirlGentoo64 what is it downloading?12:15
Gentoo64lalagirl, idk, maybe language packs12:15
mannersodd thing is i can read and write files on the ubuntu machine12:15
Gentoo64did you choose to download updates while installling?12:15
mannersto the  external hdd12:15
lalagirlGentoo64 Do I need them? I will only run in English?12:15
Gentoo64lalagirl, probably not, i dont even know if it is language packs12:16
Sidewinder1manners, To determine the UUID of the drives, including the external, try: ls -l dev/disk/by-uuid12:16
MonkeyDustlalagirl  maybe there's a skip button, if not, you can delete them after installation12:16
lalagirlGentoo64 it says "Downloading language packs (5:03 remaining)..."12:16
Gentoo64lalagirl, ok well thats it then :)12:16
lalagirlMonkeyDust I pressed the skip button12:16
Entvexahh found it12:17
icerootGamoder: and what does higher compression has to do with lower connection speed?12:17
icerootGamoder: i dont get what you want12:17
lalagirlOkay it is done installing Ubuntu… that took a long time12:17
Entvexit was apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys <key id>12:17
Gentoo64lalagirl, id just leave it i doubt they take much space12:17
mannersSidewinder1 if i can access it via ubuntu and edit files should i need to change permissions, also if with samba i share the route i can access it from my windows 7 machine but if i navigate to the usb hdd it wont let me have access to the directory12:17
GamoderI think that higher compression = less data = less time to transfer the data12:17
Entvexthanks man pages :D12:17
mannerssorry root12:17
lalagirlit took 6 minutes to install Ubuntu?12:17
Sidewinder1manners, And the external can't be written to because it's owned by 'root', correct?12:18
Gentoo64lalagirl, you said a long time?12:18
MonkeyDustlalagirl  that's possible, modifications may take longer12:18
Gamoderand if I got less connection speed this "less time" matters more than the "more time" due to the CPU-time used for compression12:18
illic1tin webmin which shell option do u choose to give a user full access to my server?12:18
jolson_I wish to report a bug, but ubuntu-bug wants me to name the package at fault and I have no idea. It's about fonts not being drawn correctly and it affects many applications at once.12:18
mannerswell by the user max12:18
atvrlalagirl: the way you speak i think you have never installed windows XD you would think that ubuntu install fast as hell ;p12:18
illic1tbin/bash?12:18
icerootillic1t: dont use webmin12:18
lalagirlatvr I have a mac12:18
iceroot!webmin | illic1t12:18
ubottuillic1t: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system.12:18
mannerswhich is my son used to be his netbook12:18
Sidewinder1!webmin | illic1t12:18
illic1tsorry12:18
lalagirlatvr I bought Windows 7 and will install it later… first let me install Ubuntu12:19
icerootlalagirl: its better to install windows first12:19
MonkeyDustlalagirl  if you install windows after ubuntu, you'll have to repair grub12:19
icerootlalagirl: because windows will kill grub and you have to reinstall grub12:19
lalagirlatvr by the way, how long does Windows take to install?12:20
icerootlalagirl: ##windows12:20
atvrlalagirl: this is off-topic but you cant instal windows on a mac machine12:20
MonkeyDustlalagirl  at least 1 hour12:20
icerootatvr: of course you can12:20
MonkeyDustok12:20
ShadowE9899it takes me about 15 mins here with windows 712:20
Gentoo64all depends on the pc12:20
icerootatvr: if it is not ppc12:20
Gentoo64some can take 4-5 mins some 2 hours12:20
lalagirlokay12:20
lalagirlit says "If possible, eject the CD-ROM from inside the guest before disconnecting.12:21
lalagirlDisconnect anyway and override the lock?" What should I do?12:21
atvrlalagirl: depends on your hardware performance, it may take 10min or 1hour12:21
soeehow can i remove (terminal) all files with specific extension ?12:21
Gentoo64lalagirl, just reboot12:21
icerootsoee: rm *.txt12:21
Gentoo64lalagirl, or choose device/cdrom then eject from vboc12:21
Gentoo64x12:21
Gentoo64or remove device / whatever12:21
lalagirlGentoo64 whats vboc?12:21
Gentoo64vbox (if thats what youre using)12:21
iceroot!vbox | lalagirl12:22
ubottulalagirl: Virtualbox is a virtualizer for x86 and amd64 architectures. It's available in the package "virtualbox" in the !repositories, and you can download the Virtualbox Extension Pack for additional, non-Free functionality at http://virtualbox.org . Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox12:22
MonkeyDustsoee  with find and rm {}12:22
Gamoderok, I cannot watch videos - but otherwise, speed seems to be quite ok12:22
soeeiceroot, Monarquista thank you12:22
icerootGamoder: what videos?12:22
lalagirlGentoo64 oh I bought VMware Fusion 4, is that okay to run Ubuntu?12:22
icerootGamoder: flash? or others?12:22
Gentoo64lalagirl, yeah12:22
Gamoderneither nor - ssh seems to be too slow for that12:22
icerootGamoder: watching videos over ssh -X.....12:23
Gentoo64lalagirl, before you buy stuff, there are free alternatives :) vbox is fine12:23
icerootGamoder: as i already said, ssh -X is bad and very slow12:23
Ben64vmware has a free version too12:23
Gentoo64 Ben64 yeah but only player afaik12:23
Gamoderwell - maybe, but I don't want a complete session - and it is sufficent for lowriter, firefox etc.12:23
Ben64yeah, and?12:23
Ben64it works perfectly12:24
Gentoo64Ben64, which means youd need existing vm12:24
icerootGamoder: you can mount the filesystem with sshfs12:24
Ben64nope, you can make them12:24
ShadowE9899I agree vbox works great here. I do all my dev in it to keep my work isolated.12:24
icerootGamoder: then it should be possible to watch videos over that12:24
Gentoo64Ben64, you might as well use full on vbox12:24
MonkeyDustso far, i havent been able to install vmware in ubuntu, i now use vbox12:24
Ben64vbox isn't as full featured12:24
Gamoderah, nice, could try out that too :-)12:24
lalagirlwait I am on mac so i bought vmware fusion 4 so i can run ubuntu on mac12:24
Gentoo64Ben64, most people prefer it for normal use12:24
ShadowE9899Ben64: It has enough features for a home user. Now a datacenter is a different story12:25
lalagirlit seems like ubuntu is compatible with vmware fusion 412:25
icerootlalagirl: you bought expensiv mac-hardware to use windows and linux? isnt the only reason to buy mac hardware to run mac osx?12:25
Ben64vmware is free and better : /12:25
Gentoo64Ben64, argue all you like lol12:25
icerootBen64: vmware is not "free" (as in free speech)12:25
GamoderThanks, iceroot - nautilus has ssh-support. Now I don't need samba any longer12:25
Gentoo64vbox is also faster12:25
maxagazalmoxarife: I have just tried the /etc/default/grub which is here http://www.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich-18941526-ubuntu-erreur-de-sortie-d-etat-12712:25
MonkeyDustBen64  OT: link to vmware installer pls?12:26
lalagirliceroot some programs are not on mac for some dumb reason so i have to use ubuntu and windows alongside mac12:26
icerootlalagirl: ok12:26
Ben64MonkeyDust: you can't google? :(12:26
lalagirliceroot i'm getting tired spending so much money on software so i think ubuntu will help because its free12:26
MonkeyDustBen64  fun-spoiler :p12:26
maxagazalmoxarife: it's now upgrading, but I get similar errors...12:26
Ben64well it'll take a bit to get you a link, maxing out my connection atm12:27
icerootlalagirl: its free (as in free beer) and (very important) its free as in free speech12:27
iceroot!free | lalagirl12:27
ubottulalagirl: freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing12:27
lalagirliceroot beer isn't free12:27
ShadowE9899If it wasn't for open source I probably wouldn't know how to program =/12:28
icerootlalagirl: free beer is of course free :)12:28
Seveasfree as in freezing12:28
Ben64MonkeyDust: www.vmware.com/go/get-player12:28
Ben64you need to register12:28
Gentoo64lalagirl, i thought id seen you in this channel for a long time, how come all the questions? :s12:28
almoxarifemaxagaz: I can't read french, ><>......12:28
icerootlalagirl: hm maybe not if apple would sell beer, even it is free beer because you need an adapter matching your mouth which will cost 29,95€12:28
MonkeyDustBen64  tnx12:29
Seveasiceroot, it'll be iBeer, taste like crap, but it'll be shiny12:29
maxagazalmoxarife: well, the file is not in french12:29
Seveasand people will love it for the shine12:29
icerootSeveas: and pink12:29
Seveasno, white12:29
Ben64white beer :S12:29
icerootSeveas: with round corners12:29
ShadowE9899lol12:29
atvras you talk about crap lol is it possible to put linux on iphone12:30
lalagirlGentoo64 i'm lalagirl's friend12:30
Gentoo64lalagirl, ah ok12:30
icerootatvr: yes12:30
Seveasatvr, google for rockbox.12:30
ShadowE9899really?12:30
oCeanlet's move back on topic please12:30
lalagirlGentoo64 she told me to use this chat thing incase if i need help installing ubuntu12:30
icerootatvr: but not GNU/Linux12:30
icerootoCean: we are not offtopic when we are speaking about freedom12:30
atvriceroot: what is gnu linux12:31
Seveasiceroot, well, this channel is really about support12:31
rokiahi everybody, i have a question about java and linux. how can i know which charset is used when i call a write method on OutputStreamWriter . because i think write use a jvm 's charset and jvm depends on the operating system12:31
oCeanatvr: please note that this channel is not for general linux support, just ubuntu12:31
icerootatvr: have a look at gnu.org what GNU/Linux is, also debian.org12:31
Seveasatvr, http://docs.oracle.com/javase/1.4.2/docs/api/java/io/OutputStreamWriter.html12:32
ShadowE9899you guys wasn't joking about ubuntu on the iphone... does it work well with other iOS devices?12:32
SeveasOutputStreamWriters have a getEncoding method12:32
lalagirlokay now i installed ubuntu… how can i update it?12:32
icerootatvr: the short story is Ubuntu is a GNU/Linux system, Android is a Linux system12:32
icerootlalagirl: update like sec-updates or update like release-update?12:32
ShadowE9899or am i misreading these results from google lmao12:33
lalagirliceroot all updates12:33
icerootlalagirl: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:33
hasufellhelp!! i cant see this video in my ubuntu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc12:33
icerootlalagirl: also the software-center should offer an option about available updates12:33
lalagirliceroot sudo what?12:33
Seveaslalagirl, open the update manager and click 'check' and 'install updates'12:33
lalagirliceroot what's sudo12:33
Seveasno need for termminal commands :)12:33
iceroot!sudo | lalagirl12:33
ubottulalagirl: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo12:33
Ben64lalagirl: do what Seveas said12:33
Sidewinder1lalagirl, What version of ubuntu did you install?12:33
Ben64its way easier12:34
lalagirliceroot i feel dumb… sorry if i'm asking dumb questions, i'm new to this!12:34
Seveaslalagirl, no need to feel dumb :)12:34
lalagirlSidewinder1 it Ubuntu 11.1012:34
icerootlalagirl: there are no dump questions, its great you are using ubuntu and you are welcome to this channel to ask all your ubuntu releated questions12:34
Ben64nobody instantly knew how to work linux their first time12:35
mannersok got that fixed now12:35
mannersnext issue12:35
mannersis there a gui for ushare in ubuntu12:35
owenll1!flash | hasufell12:36
ubottuhasufell: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash12:36
lalagirlare "pre-released updates (oneiric-proposed)" safe to install??12:36
icerootlalagirl: no12:36
icerootlalagirl: dont use them12:36
hasufellcan i watch porn then too?!12:36
ShadowE9899lol12:36
hasufelli cant see porn12:36
oCeanhasufell: wrong channel for that12:36
Gentoo64hasufell, stop troling please12:36
n3rV3:)12:36
hasufellPLEASE12:36
Sidewinder1lalagirl, Then you can't do a dist-upgrade; at least not yet..12:36
oCeanhasufell: this channel is for ubuntu tech support only, stop the offtopic talk12:36
hasufelli need FAP FAP FAP12:36
Seveashasufell, Ubuntu can play almost all videos. just some DRM-encumbered ones don't play.12:36
Gentoo64i think someones been on the shandies12:37
Sidewinder1lalagirl, 12.04's not due to be released for a few months.12:37
darkowlzzCan I use Oracle in Ubuntu?12:37
Seveasdarkowlzz, yes you can.12:37
Romancepffft, i can't open terminal suddenly! what happened12:37
Romancedang12:37
icerootlalagirl: proposed updates are updates which are not tested or tested at the moment so they can break things12:37
oCeandarkowlzz:  however oracle did not certify ubuntu/debian12:37
SeveasRomance, it's rebelling!12:37
n3rV3darkowlzz, yes you can12:37
darkowlzzSeveas, which package to download12:37
lalagirlSidewinder1 so how do i get Ubuntu 12.04 beta?12:37
icerootdarkowlzz: yes12:37
Ben64lalagirl: you don't want it12:37
icerootdarkowlzz: ask oracle what you should use12:38
oCeanlalagirl: Precise/12.04 is not yet released (still alpha). Please /join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion12:38
Seveasdarkowlzz, you'll need to contact oracle sales and pay them a lot of money :)12:38
Ben64I put 12.04 on my laptop and I regret it12:38
lalagirlBen64 i don't want anything, but my friend wants the latest ubuntu stuff12:38
Ben64it's unstable12:38
Gentoo64lalagirl, if you just managed to install ubuntu, why do you want the beta already12:38
Ben64nobody wants that yet12:38
darkowlzzSeveas, no free way12:38
icerootlalagirl: please dont use 12.04, use 11.10 if you want the latest stable release12:38
SeveasBen64, 11.10 was less stable for me than 12.04 alpha though. unity kept crashing in 11.1012:38
lalagirlGentoo64 it's not me, its my friend… i don't know anything...12:38
icerootdarkowlzz: oracle is not free12:38
Sidewinder1lalagirl, What Ben64 said.12:38
Ben6410.04 is solid as a rock12:39
Gentoo64lalagirl, i would use 12.04 in a vm12:39
Gentoo64but not proper pc12:39
Seveasdarkowlzz, dunno, oracle is not really supported by the community but by oracle. So I'd ask them12:39
Gentoo64unless you wana test it, not use it properly12:39
cypher-neoSeveas, I had the same problem with 11.10 Unity. I ended up installing GNOME Shell just because it kept crashing.12:39
cypher-neoSeveas, I didn't upgrade to 12.04 though. lol12:39
icerootSeveas: darkowlzz imo ubuntu is not a supported plattform from oracle12:39
Seveascypher-neo, I went for 12.04 instead :)12:39
Seveasiceroot, hmm, that may be true.12:39
cypher-neoSeveas, My first issue with 12.04 was that the Alpha image wouldn't fit on a CD. lol12:40
Ben64I don't like any of the desktop choices now :(12:40
icerootdarkowlzz: but why you need oracle? mostly its an overkill for common tasks12:40
cypher-neoSeveas, It was 20Mb too big12:40
Gentoo64cypher-neo, afaik its supposed to be liek that now12:40
darkowlzziceroot, any emulator for Oracle12:40
Gentoo64you need a dvd even for the cd12:40
Seveascypher-neo, heh, I just upgraded :)12:40
icerootdarkowlzz: ask oracle we dont support that here12:40
cypher-neoGentoo64, Well, i don12:41
Seveasand I install from usb anyway these days.12:41
MonkeyDustyes12:41
lalagirlit says it has 301 updates to install… holy cow pancakes batman mobile how long will that take? is it necessary?12:41
n3rV3Gentoo64, or use unetbootin and make pen drive bootable12:41
Gentoo64n3rV3, yeah ofc12:41
Seveaslalagirl, not too long. Most updates are small12:41
Gentoo64but in terms of actual discs :)12:41
icerootlalagirl: it is necessary for the latest security updates and bug-fixes12:41
cypher-neoGentoo64, Well, i don't mind as long as they put enough packages into 12.04 to FILL UP a DVD. I don't want to waste a DVD on an image that is just slightly larger than a CD.12:41
n3rV3yes u r right12:41
lalagirli'm guessing ubuntu has a lot of bugs?12:41
MonkeyDustlalagirl  that's what i said, modifications take longer12:41
cypher-neoGentoo64, Though i suppose I could just put it on a flash drive.12:42
Gentoo64cypher-neo, they should still have cd and dvd versions, "cd" is just more minimal12:42
cypher-neolalagirl, Depends on which version you are using12:42
icerootlalagirl: not more then other systems12:42
mannershey guys whats the best upnp server to use in ubuntu12:42
Ben64lalagirl: there are a lot of updates, not all are bugfixes12:42
Seveaslalagirl, software is made of bugs. Be it windows, mac or ubuntu. It's bugs all the way down :)12:42
darkowlzzhas anyone tried running Oracle using Wine?12:42
icerootmanners: ushare - lightweight UPnP A/V Media Server12:42
Seveasmanners, I use mediatomb for my dlna needs12:42
Ben64i used mediatomb as well12:42
hayloif they fill up a dvd then it will be a really heavy iso12:42
oCeandarkowlzz: that would be even more silly. Please use #oracle channel for further support12:42
cypher-neoGentoo64, That's what I figure too. The CD version just needs a little more time to be culled, and become CD-compatiable.12:43
icerootdarkowlzz: again, why you need oracle?12:43
Gentoo64cypher-neo, it used to be, they must have changed it12:43
mannersis there a gui for ushare in ubunti like in luci12:43
lalagirlokay i decided to install all 301 updates… hopefully Ubuntu doesn't crash like last time12:43
cypher-neohaylo, They have DVD versions which do fill up a DVD. Mostly just language packs though... for the Ubuntu world traveler.12:43
mannersits for xbox360 so dlna isnt an issue12:43
lalagirli don't even know why i'm helping her install Ubuntu in the first place….12:43
icerootmanners: maybe have a look at "xbmc"12:44
mannersisnt that a complete os12:44
icerootmanners: no12:44
icerootmanners: its just a media-solution for ubuntu12:44
mannershmm ok ill have a look around12:44
icerootmanners: a normal program12:44
hayloah yeah, well i like it that ubuntu has stayed under 1gig mostly12:44
stephenhwhat are we talking about?12:44
stephenhi saw dlna, looks interesting12:44
stephenh:)12:45
darkowlzziceroot, it's part of my college syllabus :(12:45
Seveasstephenh, about how short this year is12:45
* stephenh is looking for media server that does transcoding too...12:45
Seveasstephenh, mediatomb12:45
darkowlzzwhat is better, mysql or Oracle?12:45
stephenhfound mediatomb, but haven't installed it yet12:45
baaaachappy new year...12:45
Seveas!better | darkowlzz12:45
ubottudarkowlzz: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.12:45
icerootdarkowlzz: you cant compare mysql and oracle12:45
stephenhSeveas: cool.. also a bit null and void atm as i bought an apple tv and put xbmc on it12:45
atvri have installed ubuntu 11.10 alternative with a cd on my laptop, now im trying to boot into the installation but my screen just dosnt work when ubuntu boot, so i would probably need to put the command nomodeset but how can i put it to be able to boot my ubuntu12:46
icerootdarkowlzz: but if you just need a sql database use mysql or postgresql12:46
haylowhats the risk of running without doing the updates say 11.04 or 10.04 or 12.04 maybe after it is revised?12:46
stephenhbut was still curious what i could use to transcode to other dlna devices12:46
darkowlzziceroot, Seveas , thanks :D12:46
iceroothaylo: no security updates12:46
Seveashaylo, you'll be vulmerable to security bugs12:46
icerootdarkowlzz: sudo apt-get install mysql-server12:46
atvri have installed ubuntu 11.10 alternative with a cd on my laptop, now im trying to boot into the installation but my screen just dosnt work when ubuntu boot, so i would probably need to put the command nomodeset but how can i put it to be able to boot my ubuntu12:46
hayloi have done install this way- ah security mostly then i see12:46
stephenhatvr: just keep repeating yourself, sure to get an answer....12:46
darkowlzziceroot, thanks, but I know mysql very well :D12:47
iceroot!nox | atvr12:47
ubottuatvr: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode12:47
icerootatvr: thats the method how to put kernel parameters12:47
iceroot!nomodeset12:47
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter12:47
icerootatvr: see above12:47
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atvriceroot: i have already seen that, in wich form do i have to put nomodeset the command that i have here is looking like that linux..... quiet splash vt.handoff=712:48
lalagirlhiiiiii I'm back sorry for the inconvenience12:48
icerootatvr: the text about "nox" is showing you how12:49
shadalooyou are not in the kitchen?12:49
* shadaloo looks confused12:49
icerootatvr: also the forum link will show it12:49
icerootshadaloo: stop that!!12:49
lalagirlshadaloo who?12:49
shadaloolalagirl: just playing :p12:50
devid19devid19 saluta tutti12:50
Seveasshadaloo, I suggest you play nicely. Or I'll send *you* to the kitchen. To cook you in the oven.12:50
Seveashello devid1912:50
shadalooSeveas: watch it nazi12:51
cypher-neolol12:51
bullgard4I have attached an electronic device to my LAN. I can access it through its Web interface. How can I access it through Nautilus? I know the IP address of the electronic device. '~$ mount' does not list this electronic device.12:51
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loicdu81Bonjour12:51
Seveasbullgard4, try this in nautilus: smb://ip.addresss.here12:51
Seveashello loicdu8112:52
MonkeyDustbullgard4  can you ping the device, if yes, try ssh12:52
Gentoo64loicdu81, #ubuntu-fr is for french12:52
loicdu81yes12:52
wildc4rdI am about to install Debian on my main PC, but want to keep this old Ubuntu install, as there is so much stuff on here, can I just plug this HDD into an older hardware setup?12:53
sankui find that Ubuntu desktop 11.10 install on my Samsung Satellite bringing up the wireless icon top left ( with or without turning on a red light that the machine has ) -- but  debian 6.0.3 server and ubuntu 11.03 server are unable to show wireless.  How to tweak files to enable ?12:53
Seveaswildc4rd, yeah, that usually works12:53
Gentoo64wildc4rd, should be able to12:53
Gentoo64wildc4rd, id look out for  gpu drivers though12:53
wildc4rdideal, cheers (yes, it will have the same brand of GPU)12:54
atvriceroot: i just dont found how to make it work, i am new to linux and i would really apreciat if you would help resolving this issue12:54
cypher-neosanku, You know i had the same problem on my Satellite Pro. There is a method which I refer to as "kickstarting the modem" which seemed to work 100% of the time for me.12:56
bullgard4Seveas: '~$ ping 192.168.178.33; 7 packets transmitted, 7 received, 0% packet loss, time 5998ms.' --  But why do I obtain '~$ smb://192.168.178.33; bash: smb://192.168.178.33: No such file or directory'?12:56
sankuSo i have this desktop Ubuntu 11.10 installed on the Samsung Satellite, and connecting to the Internet.  Is there a way to upgrade to server install ( from Ubuntu, Debian or other sites, ) ?12:56
Seveasbullgard4, I said in nautilus, not in bash :)12:57
Seveassanku, server install is not an "upgrade", it's the same but without gui12:57
sankucyher-neo: " kickstarting the mode " turns on wireless ?12:57
n3rV3bullgard4, not on the bash prompt you have to type it in the Nautilus window. One which lists all your folders and files12:57
cypher-neosanku, You'll need to have an ethernet cable and have the computer connected to the router via a hardline for this to work. Turn the modem on (red light on) then enable the proprietary drivers. Restart the computer and then disable the proprietary drivers (you really don't need them). Then restart the computer, and as it is restarting disconnect the ethernet cable.12:57
cypher-neosanku, I do not know why, but it always seems to kick the modem and make it work!12:58
maxagazis it possible to use the apple super drive on any pc under ubuntu ?12:58
yeehawI smell a dirty hack :P12:58
Ben64maxagaz: probably. is it just a hard drive?12:58
sankuSeveas, ah, that is what i see, no gui -- was amaze a server would not have one.  Thanx12:59
lalagirlmaxagaz I believe so12:59
maxagazBen64: no, it's a cd-rom drive12:59
lalagirlBen64 it's a CD/DVD drive12:59
Ben64oh12:59
cypher-neosanku, Oh, wait!! Server?12:59
n3rV3yeehaw, what are you talking about?12:59
Ben64usb connected... probably12:59
lalagirlmaxagaz yes, you can use it12:59
maxagazI'm not sure it works actually12:59
maxagazlalagirl: how ?12:59
Seveasmaxagaz, I believe it should work. If nobody knows, try googling :)12:59
yeehawn3rV3: About Cypher-neo's trick12:59
maxagazI tried...12:59
cypher-neosanku, I've never done that on a server before!12:59
maxagazI found nothing12:59
lalagirlmaxagaz just connect it...12:59
Ben64yeah it should "just work" on ubuntu13:00
maxagazBen64: it should but it doesn't13:00
Ben64have you connected it?13:00
cypher-neoyeehaw, Dirty tricks sometimes work. I only discovered it because... let me think... 8.04 suggested I enable proprietary drivers (and when that didn't work) I disabled them.13:00
n3rV3yeehaw, oh ok13:00
cypher-neoyeehaw, And all of the sudden it worked!!13:00
lalagirlmaxagaz i think you have to install it13:00
atvri need help setting nomodeset in grub2 please help me i am new to this and i cant find info about that13:01
maxagazlalagirl: what do you mean ?13:01
Seveascypher-neo, that smells like the proprietary driver is setting some flags in the hardware that persist. Ugly.13:01
lalagirlmaxagaz wait it says that it should be able to work without installation13:01
n3rV3yeah i had issues with one gbe card on ubuntu once13:01
lalagirlmaxagaz when you connect it, it doesnt do anything, you have to put a disc inside13:02
cypher-neoSeveas, It's been fixed since 10.10 AFAIK...13:02
cypher-neoSeveas, I haven't had to do anything like that recently at least.13:02
sankuSo now i have a server with NO gui or wireless connect, and a desktop with a sweet gui and wireless connect -- two machines -- wondering how to make the desktop ( with gui ) become server, and the server (without gui ) to have one ?13:02
Seveassanku, to install a gui: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop13:02
JmgjamjHi13:02
lalagirlJmgjamj hi13:03
sankuHi Jmgjam13:03
owenll1atvr: Have you seen this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=161313213:03
Seveasto become a server: install whichever service it should perform, like apache, vsftpd or exom13:03
cypher-neoSeveas, Can you install a desktop on a server and preserve all the server functions?13:03
bullgard4Seveas: My apologies. --  Nautilus lists 5 Directory names of that electronic device: admin, music, photo, public, video. But no Size, Data Modified or Owner of them. What is the reason for these missing data displayed?13:03
Seveascypher-neo, of course. There's no difference between a server and a desktop when it comes to 'server functionality'. All you need are the correct packages.13:03
mannersanyone tried tvmobili13:03
n3rV3cypher-neo, yes definitely, performance would be hit though13:03
atvrowenll1: yes but i just dont understand13:04
Seveasbullgard4, click the button that makes it display this13:04
sankuSeveas: So, for a server, where are these packages hiding, say OpenSSH, LAMP, mail that i can then download, install somehow onto my desktop config ?13:05
Romanceok i think i just crashed my ubuntu :)13:05
Seveassanku, sudo apt-get install openssh-server apache2 exim mysql php-mysql13:05
maxagazlalagirl: the disc doesn't go inside, it's not powered on when I plug it13:06
cypher-neon3rV3, I haven't worked much with servers. My last server attempt was with, uhhh... 8.10, or 9.04 and it failed miserably because i wasn't used to the server interface.13:06
Seveascypher-neo, the terminal is your friend. Learn to love it :)13:06
sankuSaveas, true, if i had the dvd's.  But i have to do this over the internet.  Even discover pkg names, that you reeled off.  i have only the ONE install dvd.13:07
cypher-neoSeveas, I love the terminal!! In fact, I learned to love it more after my fail-server.13:07
atvrowenll: can you help me please13:07
lalagirlmaxagaz okay here is the solution, reboot with the superdrive plugged in13:07
maxagazlalagirl: I did that...13:07
n3rV3cypher-neo, yes start using and learning terminal13:08
atvrwhere do i put the nomodeset in ``linux.......... quiet splash vt . handsoff=7``13:08
cypher-neon3rV3, Been there. That's practically all I use now.13:08
n3rV3:)13:08
atvralmoxarife: are you there my friend :)13:09
sankuSaveas, yes, may be i can use ' https://torrent.ubuntu.com ' which i see on the top of my screen on this channel -- and download those other dvd's.  Thanx for the ideas.13:09
Seveasatvr, in /etc/default/grub on the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT line after quiet splash13:09
Seveasatvr, and then run update-grub13:09
lalagirlmaxagaz what version of ubuntu are you using?13:10
lalagirlmaxagaz what version of ubuntu are you using?13:10
atvrwhere do i put the nomodeset in ``linux.......... quiet splash vt . handsoff=7``13:10
almoxarifeatvr: put it on the end of the line13:10
maxagazlalagirl: but still no power, the cd doesn't go inside the driver13:10
lalagirlmaxagaz can you repeat that, i didn't get the message if you sent any13:10
atvrSeveas: i cant get into ubuntu, im stuck in the grub213:10
lalagirlmaxagaz what version of ubuntu are you using currently?13:10
Seveasatvr, do you see grub's menu?13:10
maxagazlalagirl: 11.1013:10
atvralmoxarife: do i have to put a space between the 7 and the nomodeset13:11
bullgard4Seveas: I have pressed the button »Browse all local and remote disks and folders accessible from this computer." Nautilus changed the »Location:« display content to »smb://nas.server« but again lists the 5 directories of this device without Size, Data Modified and Owner data.13:11
atvrSeveas: yes i am, and im a the command line i have to edit13:11
almoxarifeatvr: I would13:11
atvrSeveas: but i just dont know what to do13:11
Seveasatvr, ah ok. Then yes, at the end with a space after 713:11
atvrok im trying that13:11
Seveasbullgard4, try opening one of those folders. Do the details of files within them appear?13:12
bullgard4Seveas: Yes, they do.13:13
* lalagirl maxagaz okay let me look this up13:13
lalagirlmaxagaz let me look this up13:13
bullgard4Seveas: But the owner is not displayed.13:13
lalagirlwhat just happened? it was a message?13:13
atvrSeveas: its not working, now i am stuck at a black screen with white text and the last line says * cheking battery state...13:14
maxagazlalagirl: okay13:14
bullgard4Seveas: The owner is displayed as »unknown«.13:14
Seveasbullgard4, that's because samba shares have no concept of 'owner'13:14
Seveasatvr, then 'nomodeset' wasn't enough13:15
bullgard4Seveas: Thank you for explaining.13:15
atvrSeveas: so what should i put13:15
atvrSeveas: my video card is a amd radeon13:15
MonkeyDustSeveas  is that because windows has no owner concept?13:15
SeveasMonkeyDust, it does. but afaik the smb/cifs protocol does not.13:16
Seveasand fat32 also doesn't13:16
atvrSeveas: do you think you can help me :) this is really anoying since ive pass all the night tryind to make it work13:17
bullgard4MonkeyDust: I can ping the electronic device. But '~$ ssh 192.168.178.33; ssh: connect to host 192.168.178.33 port 22: Connection refused'. What should I do?13:17
andynwindows has acl lists. dunno how those are mapped to smb perms13:17
lalagirlmaxagaz i'm sorry, i don't know what's wrong… are you sure your superdrive isn't broken?13:18
akira_Hello.13:18
rtr-hi, i want to see all messages while booting, so i changed grub boot parameters to nosplash noquiet, but after that it shows another ubuntu screen (the one with the loading dots under ubuntu) which i have exit using escape. what is this? how is this screen called?13:18
lalagirlakira_ hi13:18
Seveasatvr, I don't think I can. Haven't worked with radeon cards for years.13:18
atvrokay13:18
akira_Hi. lalagirl.13:18
maxagazlalagirl: it works fine on a macbook13:18
Seveasrtr-, that's probably plymouth.13:19
almoxarifewince-pim?13:19
rtr-thanks Seveas13:19
atvralmoxarife: do you think you could help me please, the nomodeset dosnt work my video card is a amd radeon ive pass all the night triyng to make it work13:19
MonkeyDustbullgard4  it seems to be a port 22 issue, it's for ssh13:19
atvrdoes anyone know how to edit grub2 to make a amd radeon video card work13:20
n3rV3atvr have you tried booting into the failsafe mode?13:21
bullgard4MonkeyDust: How can I put your message to good use?13:21
lalagirlmaxagaz i'm not sure, sorry… i tried searching on the internet …. couldn't really find a problem with superdrive13:21
atvrn3rV3: no and i dont know how to do it, i am new to ubuntu13:22
bullgard4MonkeyDust: Can I use lsof -i to further analyze the problem?13:22
MonkeyDustbullgard4  i guess you need to install openssh-server and/or openssh-client13:22
atvrn3rV3: can you explan me how to13:22
atvrn3rV3: is this the same as recovery mode13:23
n3rV3atvr, yes it is13:23
atvrn3rV3: i am now at the recovery menu as those option, resume, fsck, remount and root13:24
atvrn3rV3: what is the option i have to choose13:25
bullgard4MonkeyDust: On my Ubuntu computer the packages openssh-client and openssh-server are installed and have been functional in the past.13:25
n3rV3atvr, don't remember exactly but there should be an option to boot into failsafe mode13:26
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atvrn3rV3: i dont see that, ive pressed the resume option i am now at a terminal13:27
lalagirlmaxagaz are you still there?13:28
maxagazlalagirl: yes13:28
lalagirlmaxagaz try updating your system13:28
paul_multitouch hp 2470p - pen ok - fingers doesn"t work any suggestions13:28
maxagazlalagirl: it's upgraded already13:28
oCeanbullgard4: from the error message it seems the ssh-server is not running on the remote system13:28
lalagirlmaxagaz update it, not upgrade it13:28
n3rV3atvr, try running: startx13:28
almoxarifeatvr: when you are ready to burn a cd with the iso we discussed then I can help13:29
MonkeyDustbullgard4  next thing on my mind: delete existing ssh-keys in ~/.ssh/known_hosts13:29
bullgard4MonkeyDust: I don't think that your advice will help with the present problem.13:30
atvralmoxarife: i have installed the way you said, i have burn the cd wich was not the same setup as the usb one, and now the installation has finish and it reboot, but the screen just not work13:30
atvrn3rV3: it dosent work13:30
atvrn3rV3: the last line says xinit: server error13:31
lalagirlmaxagaz try opening terminal and do the foollowing "sudo apt-get update"13:31
maxagazlalagirl: what do you mean ?13:31
lalagirlmaxagaz look at message above13:31
maxagazlalagirl: it's done already13:32
n3rV3atvr, give me some time i will try out the steps on my machine13:32
atvrn3rV3: okay thanks you very much :)13:32
lalagirlmaxagaz okay now restart your comp with the drive plugged in and see if it works13:32
maxagazlalagirl: I just did it too13:32
sl1ckHow do I enable sound mixer (controls) in LXDE?13:32
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maxagazlalagirl: I thinking that it could come from the eeePC's usb port not delivering enough power, don't you think so ?13:33
lalagirlmaxagaz oh i thought you were using a mac computer… lol maybe that's the problem13:33
atvralmoxarife: the installation whent perfecly but after i reboot, the screen dosnt work13:34
lalagirlmaxagaz does it show a usb port with the lightening symbol (representing power)13:34
sam_bristolcan I buy a hardware box that runs firewall/ antivirus from a reputable UK seller with support 'off the shelf' (not custom built)13:36
maxagazlalagirl: it seems there's no LED on the superdrive13:36
n3rV3atvr, when you select ubuntu recovery mode on the next screen there is an option failsafex you need to select that13:36
sam_bristolrunning ubuntu obvs13:36
n3rV3atvr, this will take you to gui but then you will have to install drivers for you card13:36
bullgard4oCean: I am afraid that you are right. I found a list of installed programs. Among them is a FTP server but no SSH server listed.13:36
BioNetbook_hello13:36
atvrn3rV3: i dont see that option, maybe its fsck13:37
BioNetbook_i have an ircbot running on my homeserver (10.04)13:37
lalagirlmaxagaz there is no led on the superdrive13:37
BioNetbook_i cannot ctcp with it because i keep getting connection refused13:37
atvrthe description is check all file systems13:37
oCeanbullgard4: aha. If you install "nmap" on your ubuntu machine, you can also use that to check which ports are open/listening on a remote machine/device (just a tip)13:37
BioNetbook_is there something other than iptables that could be blocking it?13:37
n3rV3atvr, its there on my system, which version of ubuntu are you using13:37
BioNetbook_(my router is port forwarded)13:37
atvrn3rV3: 11.1013:37
DaraelSo I've got a machine here which has two DVD drives, but neither of them appear to work and I don't have a blank CD anyway.  Problem is, my bootable USB stick doesn't work:  I can select it first in BIOS, or from the one-time boot menu, but I just get a screen with the text "Boot error", and if I hit enter it loads from the first hard disk.  Any ideas?13:38
bullgard4oCean: '~$ : nmap -sP 192.168.178.0/24' does list my electronic device "nas-server", its IP address and that it is up. How should I modify this command in order to check which ports are open/listening on the remote device?13:41
mazda01morning13:41
oCeanbullgard4: without any options, my nmap command shows this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/788830/13:42
Navinhi, Need a bit of help....with my ubuntu installation13:42
n3rV3atvr, its there on my system 11.04 dunno why its missing on your system13:42
atvrn3rV3: i just googleiit to see and i think there is no failsafex on 11.1013:43
NavinI have a gfx card with dvi and vga output,13:43
Navinthe ubuntu boots and then turns my monitor on VGA off13:43
Navinand I dont habve a dvi monitor to fix it13:43
anddamhello13:43
Navinany tips on how to get around this ?13:44
n3rV3atvr, yes found the links it seems they removed it from 11.1013:44
paul_multitouch hp 2470p - pen ok - fingers doesn"t work any suggestions13:45
atvrn3rV3: yup13:45
bullgard4oCean: '~$ : nmap nas-server' does not list port 22 but the ftp port 21 for tcp open. --  If I remember well the command nmap can determine the operating system of the remote electronic device. Is that right?13:45
Navinany one can help with how can I boot in text mode from the grub menu so that I can reconfigure the Xorg file ?13:46
nick30bullgard4: it can guess13:46
anddamhow can I give an user permissions to only install software from Ubuntu Software Center?13:46
bullgard4nick30: What options should I append to nmap in order to do the estimation?13:47
Navinanddam: Do you want to limit the sources of installation ?13:47
anddamnope13:47
oCeanbullgard4: sudo nmap -O host13:47
Navinanddam: then ?13:47
atvrn3rV3: does that look safe to do http://askubuntu.com/questions/68245/ubuntu-hits-a-black-screen-after-boot13:48
anddamNavin: I'd like to just let the user install software without providing him superuser permissions to do other things13:48
oCeanbullgard4: anyway, usually those NAS devices have admin interfaces to dis/enable services such as ssh server13:48
anddamNavin: this is actually a nine years old boy for whom I created a regular user on edubuntu13:49
n3rV3atvr, well these steps are just to delete the files and create links for them13:49
Navinanddam: hmm.. I would not know a way directly to do that.13:50
n3rV3atvr, but wait don't run them yet13:50
anddamNavin: I thought something like a sudoers rule13:50
atvrn3rV3: okay13:50
bullgard4oCean: I have looked through the directories and through the manual but have not yet found menting SSH (but found a list of services offered).13:51
bullgard4s/menting/mentioning/13:51
realhaxorhello i have a problem with my ubuntu13:51
realhaxorcan you help me please?13:52
nick30what is your problem?13:52
realhaxori've uninstalled GNOME 3 in my ubuntu 11.0413:52
realhaxorbring back my unity13:52
realhaxorbut i can't install simple-ccsm13:52
realhaxorneed pastebin?13:53
realhaxorit seems they have broken package..13:53
atvri am just fucking tired of that shit13:53
oCeanatvr: control your language here, please13:53
atvrsorry13:53
realhaxoranyone can help?13:54
n3rV3atvr, i've made the changes try this link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/788835/13:54
atvrno one seem to have the solution ......13:54
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anddamNavin: ah maybe http://askubuntu.com/questions/3/how-can-i-set-the-software-center-to-install-software-for-non-root-users13:54
anddamthere's a sudoers hint too13:54
realhaxoryep13:54
realhaxormaybe13:54
bazhangrealhaxor, from the PPA?13:55
dr_willis!nomodeset13:55
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter13:55
realhaxordunno.. but i tried from terminal using the command: sudo apt-get install simple-ccsm it returns with E: Broken packages. (After uninstalled GNOME 3)13:56
bullgard4<oCean>: '~$ sudo nmap -O nas-server; No exact OS matches for host (If you know what OS is running on it, see http://nmap.org/submit/ ). OS detection performed. Please report any incorrect results at http://nmap.org/submit/ ." Is my result worth reporting?13:56
icerootatvr: edit the grubline and put "nomodeset" on that, thats all13:56
bazhangrealhaxor, well you would know if it was from the PPA13:56
iceroot!nox | atvr (this is an example how to edit that line)13:56
ubottuatvr (this is an example how to edit that line): To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode13:56
realhaxorbazhang: well, how to recover it?13:56
bazhangrealhaxor, reinstall13:56
realhaxorreinstall my ubuntu?13:57
bazhangyes13:57
n3rV3atvr, did you give it a try?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/788835/13:57
atvriceroot: i have already tried that13:57
realhaxorif we upgrade, the're will be no solutions?13:57
iceroot!details | atvr13:57
oCeanbullgard4: not sure, the OS on NAS devices are often derivatives of Linux, I don't know if the people at nmap.org think it's useful13:57
ubottuatvr: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."13:57
bazhangsince that was explicitly NOT supported, nope.  a reinstall is the fix13:57
atvrn3rV3: i cant get to the non x based terminal13:57
realhaxorwell13:58
realhaxorok..13:58
realhaxorthanks for the help!13:58
nick30realhaxor: if you don't have sensitive data, reinstall13:58
bullgard4<oCean>: Thank you for your judgment.13:58
nick30ok, he left13:58
n3rV3atvr, but you were using the recovery mode, you can select drop to root prompt in it to get access and then try13:58
atvriceroot:  i have installed ubuntu 11.10 with the alternative installation, the installation whent perfecly then it asked me to reboot, and then after the grub, the screen is going purple then black, my system is a toshiba satallite l745d with a amd radeon video card13:59
icerootatvr: and you set "nomodeset"?14:00
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atvriceroot: yes and it didnt work, but maybe ive made a mistake, i am new to linux14:00
dr_willisive often needed to use the nomodeset option untill i get the actual drivers installed.14:00
yeehawatvr: Can't you press escape when it turns purple? You might get a prompt14:00
dr_willisOr try the 'text' kernel option in the grub menus14:01
dr_willisif you can get to the console. you may be able to get the ati drivers installed.14:01
dr_willisthat would basically be the same as the recovery mode shell method.14:02
atvrn3rV3: it dosnt work14:02
atvrdr_willis: i cant press esc14:03
BluesKajHiyas all14:03
atvrdr_willis: it do nothing14:03
n3rV3atvr, use shift i think that will work14:03
dr_willisits shift for grub2 these days. if its hidden.14:04
atvrn3rV3: shift at the purple screen or when booting14:04
n3rV3atvr, when booting14:04
dr_willistap the shift key like a  spastic woodpecker as it boots. :)14:04
n3rV3just after the bios screen14:04
n3rV3hehe14:05
dr_willisfirst thing i always do is make grub NOT auto hide..14:05
dr_willissuch an annoying default.14:05
atvrn3rV3: it bring me too the grub2 menu14:05
BluesKajdr_willis, why ?14:05
atvrwich i can edit command beford booting14:05
dr_willisBluesKaj: I dont see the point in having it hidden - other then to pacify neurotic users.14:06
n3rV3atvr, highlight first option for Ubuntu and press a14:06
mytardisi am having trouble getting the indie bundle #3 to work. when I try and run the launcher in crayon physics it keeps giving file not found response14:06
atvrn3rV3: i have tried puttin nomodeset but maybe i didnt do it correcly14:06
n3rV3atvr, we will try the single mode as dr_willis mention14:06
atvrn3rV3: pressing a does nothing14:06
dr_willismytardis:  try running it from the terminal, it may give some erorr messages. also ive had issues with that game in linux and in windows.. it just seems.. well  badly done.14:06
mytardisI have chmod +x but that didnt help either, any idea's14:06
n3rV3atvr, for that add a space and type init=/bin/bash14:07
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mytardisyes error is the same in terminal14:07
n3rV3atvr, then hit enter, this will take you to single mode14:07
dr_willismytardis:  and the exact error is?14:07
atvrn3rV3: do you want me to press ``C`` for command line14:07
BluesKajdr_willis, neurotic? , maybe they just want just a fast boot :)14:07
n3rV3no 'a' to append extra options to kernel entry14:08
dr_willisBluesKaj:  i doubt if they are gaining much.. a whole 2 sec? woopiee.. and we spend hours in here monthly explaining to people they need to tap the shift key.. at LEAST they could do is make it show a message 'hit some key for grub options' or have it be ANY key. :)14:08
* dr_willis sees things from a 'person doing tech support' direction.14:09
atvrn3rV3: pressing the ``a`` key does nothing14:09
n3rV3atvr, hmm then press 'e' and the highlight line starting with linux and press 'e' again14:10
Adrian_Hi guys according to forums I have just been reading can someone confirm if I can't turn my ssd sata to ahci can I not install ubuntu to my ssd?14:10
n3rV3atvr, once you get the blinking cursor type in: init=/bin/bash14:10
dr_willisthe recovery mode option in teh grub menu should be enough for atvr - no need for extra options if i recall correctly14:10
mytardischris@chris-mint12 ~/CrayonPhysicsDeluxe $ ./crayon14:11
mytardisbash: ./crayon: No such file or directory14:11
n3rV3dr_willis, tried it they have removed failsafex from 11.1014:11
dr_willismytardis:  you sure thats the proper name? use TAB key to get it spelt/completed properly14:11
mytardisdr_willis; tab get yielded same result14:12
atvrn3rV3: i cant highlight the line starting with linux14:12
Adrian_Anybody had any trouble installing ubuntu to an ssd14:12
atvrdr_willis: after getting in recovery mode, what you want me to do14:13
BluesKajdr_willis, well, I don't need to see grub unless absolutely necessary , If I do , I just hold the shift key down after the bios scrn14:13
lalagirlbye everyone!!!!!!!!!!!! have a happy new years eve14:13
mytardischris@chris-mint12 ~/CrayonPhysicsDeluxe $ ls -l crayon14:13
mytardis-rwxr-xr-x 1 chris chris 4405800 2011-08-03 18:31 crayon14:13
sirajpersonis anyone else here having stability problems with ubuntu? I mean this darn thing is so slow.14:13
dr_willisBluesKaj:  the issue is from a tech support point of view.. its just another layer we have to explain/peel back to fix things14:13
RedCoffehallo14:13
sirajpersonEver since they switched to unity it just seems to be going down hill14:14
RedCoffegerman irc?14:14
Adrian_anybody good with ssd installaion14:14
mytardisstrange ./crayon found with TAB, however crayon is not?14:14
RedCoffeist das der german hier xd14:14
BluesKaj#ubuntu-de , RedCoffe14:14
yeehawAdrian_: It's the same as normal, why?14:14
sirajpersonimo unity just plain stinks.14:14
atvrdr_willis: do you know how to help me14:15
sirajpersonand when you install gnome3 the whole os seems to get less stable.14:15
yeehawAdrian_: Only to save space you might want to put the /home partition on a harddrive14:15
Adrian_yeehaw: cant recognize the disk size or format!! Only thing I can think of is to try and preformat the ssd to ext4 in win 714:15
sirajpersonIt has been a pain trying find a whole new distro.14:15
sirajpersonI tried kebuntu... fail14:15
sirajpersonkubuntu***14:16
dr_willisatvr:  i dont have the boot menus memorized any more. there should be some revovery/failsafe mode in the grub menu to get you to a shell.14:16
yeehawAdrian_: You could try that with the ubuntu livecd with the program gparted. Is ahci on in the bios?14:16
dr_willisatvr:  onve you get to a shell. you can try fixing things14:16
sirajpersonso, after that I tried linux mint14:16
oCeansirajperson: did you join here to just rant, or do you have an actual question?14:16
atvrdr_willis: in the recovery menu i have the option root wich drop to root shell prompt14:17
Adrian_yeehaw: have been trying to do that but have not had any luck yet, gparted cant help tried live boot and in windows. don't think I have ahci capability. this is a new build and I neglected to check that detail, don't want to put an old disk in either if I can avoid it.14:17
dr_willisatvr:  so now you can try to fix things.. but i forget the original issue.14:17
bazhang!mintsupport | sirajperson14:17
ubottusirajperson: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org14:17
atvrdr_willis: i dont know how to fix it lol, my issu is im having a black screen after grub, the screen isnt working14:18
dr_willisatvr:  so - you havent even tried the 'nomodeset' option?14:18
yeehawAdrian_: hmm.. I don't really know then. My ssd was just supported like a normal harddrive14:18
Adrian_yeehaw: all data is on a nas so have 90gb force for dual boot os win7 and thought I might play with new ubuntu distro as haven't dual booted for a while and looks good.14:19
atvrdr_willis: yes ive tryed that in the editing grub, but it didnt work or maybe ive not do it corectly14:19
yeehawAdrian_: What happens if you shrink the windows partition in Windows? Then you'll have unused space where you might be able to install Ubuntu14:19
Adrian_yeehaw: have 35gb raw waiting but ubuntu wont play ball. I assume ahci would be mentioned in mb spec or manual and it isn't?14:20
freenodizHi,when changing the hostname ,i insert echo "plato" > /etc/hostname  AND hostname -F /etc/hostname .  I don't understand what hostname -F is actually doing.what means tht second command i have to enter hostname -F ?14:20
yeehawAdrian_: You can't find it in bios either?14:20
yeehawAdrian_: It's mostly called sata mode: ide or ahci14:20
dr_willisatvr:  last i checked the !nomodeset url gave screenshots.  or you could edit the /etc/default/grub file and  change where it says 'quiet splash' to read 'nomodeset noquiet nosplash'   (to turn off other things that may be hiding error messages)   Then rerun 'update-grub' and reboot.. might get it going.14:21
freenodizwhat this code is doing?  hostname -F /etc/hostname14:21
_ikke_I'm trying the ubuntu liveusb on a laptop, but it doesn't see the wireless adapter (not in ifconfig, not in lspci, not in dmesg). But I can't seem to find the model of the wireless adapter (it's a realtek). Anyone a clue how I can enable it?14:21
Adrian_as soon as I'm off irc I will reboot and check but just checked the gigabyte site and documentation and no mention only raid!14:21
gurrot72hmm.. i played with irssi and autlog on and off and loglevels.. now it wont log again.. any idea whats wrong?14:21
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dr_willis_ikke_:  could be the wireless switch has it off, so its not seen14:22
yeehawfreenodiz: hostname -F /etc/hostname reads the hostname from /etc/hostname14:22
_ikke_dr_willis: It does not seem to respond (the orange light is not going on when I switch it)14:22
_ikke_dr_willis: And no message in dmesg14:22
freenodizyeehaw,wht do you mean with "reads"?14:22
_ikke_dr_willis: Note that the light was on when I booted14:23
yeehawAdrian_: Ok, what type of mb do you have?14:23
sirajpersonAdrian_: so you are trying to install on your 35gb hd but you can't?14:23
dr_willis_ikke_:  on some systems - ive had to turn on wireless in windows.. then reboot to linux. and make sure to NEVER turn it off via the switch.14:23
freenodizyeehaw,is it executing somenthing?or is just confirming the hostname?14:23
yeehawfreenodiz: it reads the hostname from that file and then sets it14:23
atvrdr_willis: i dont know to make those change in a terminal but if i edit in the grub2 will it be good14:23
_ikke_dr_willis: It was turned on in windows14:23
Adrian_yeehaw: no set windows with 60gb and planned to use remaining 30gb for ubuntu.14:24
dr_willisatvr:  sudo nano /etc/default/grub  use ctrl-SOMTHING (says at the bottom) to save14:24
xgt001where can i get some unity themes?14:24
freenodizahh,so it sets it :)...tha'ts what i wanted to know.to "echo" writes that file,then -F comes to read the file and set it in the system,ok14:24
yeehawAdrian_: you're adressing the wrong guy, but what kind of motherboard do you have?14:24
sirajpersonxgt001: there just aren't a lot of them out there14:25
yeehawfreenodiz: Btw, you could have done man hostname on the command line and found it in about 10 secs ;-)14:25
Adrian_yeehaw: mb is gigabyte m68mt-s2p, sorry sirajperson.14:25
Adrian_sirajperson: 90gb corsair force 60gb win 7 and remaining 30gb meant for ubuntu.14:25
yeehawAdrian_: Looks like your motherboard uses a special NVIDIA driver for ahci14:26
xgt001sirajperson, exactly, i am stuck with ambiance :(14:26
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Adrian_yeehaw:so maybe not a total loss, I might just reboot quickly, nice thing about this ssd is it is so quick, will be back shortly, thanks yeehaw.14:27
yeehawAdrian_: Don't know if that's the problem btw14:27
dr_willis_ikke_:  im out of ideas then14:27
_ikke_dr_willis: Weird, the switch doesn't even seem to do anything in windows14:27
freenodizyeehaw,thanks a lot ;) .it seems well documented :)14:27
BluesKajatvr, after editing in nano , ctl+o to save , then enter, then ctrl+x to save and exit14:27
freenodizyeehaw ++14:27
sirajpersonxgt001: after realizing how little customization I could do with unity i switched to gnome314:28
yeehawfreenodiz: Almost every command in Linux, but some manpages are not really readable for human pages14:28
yeehawfreenodiz: -pages14:28
Adrian_yeehaw:as far as I have googled it seems to be my most likely issue. if it is or isn't issue can I partition the drive to ext4 in win, do you think it might help?14:28
yeehawWell, I don't think Windows is able to do this. But some third party tool might]14:28
xgt001sirajperson, no there is more customisation in unity actually, gnome needs lots of extensions though14:28
_ikke_dr_willis: It's the realtek8187B14:28
Adrian_That was my last hope, be back shortly hopefully with ahci enabled.14:29
yeehawAdrian_: good luck14:29
dr_willis_ikke_:  means little to me. You could check the forums and askubuntu.com  about that specific chipset.14:29
Adrian_yeehaw:thanks again14:29
_ikke_dr_willis: Right, I found a ubunti wiki about it14:29
slymicoI need a pdf guide for or other reference for ubuntu server administration14:31
dr_willisslymico:  thats a very very broad topic.14:31
dr_willis!server14:31
ubottuUbuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server14:31
slymicook but I need config a server for multihosting14:32
atvrdr_willis: i am lost XD i dont find what youve said14:32
slymicoit is my specific requirement14:32
yeehawslymico: You mean like a shared hosting platform with multiple websites running next to each other?14:33
slymicoI need create three hosting in my ubuntu server each one have a different domain14:34
yeehawslymico: You can just do that with a normal apache install14:34
yeehaw!apache14:34
timposeycan anyone explain to me why a system would not show the grub screen?14:34
ubottuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)14:34
freenodizyeehaw,how can i exit from man hostname information page?14:34
yeehawfreenodiz: q14:34
theadminfreenodiz: q14:34
slymicoyes, I Know it14:34
freenodizok14:34
yeehawslymico: Then what's you question?14:34
slymicoI have 3 vistual host but is not working14:34
yeehawOk, could you paste one in pastebin?14:35
slymicohow I configure the visrtual host and link the domain14:35
atvrdr_willis: when i am trying to save, it says error writing read-only file system14:36
slymicoyeehaw: It's clear?14:36
dr_willisatvr:  in /etc/default/grub   the line (similer to this one) GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="noquiet nosplash nomodeset nofb "14:36
yeehawslymico: You point the A-record of the domain to the ipadress of your server. Then in the vhost-conf you set the domain to a specific folder14:36
timposeyI need to get into recovery mode but my grub splash screen is not showing no matter what I do, I have searched the web but see nothing any answers?14:36
yeehawslymico: COuld you give me a vhostconfig in pastebin?14:36
dr_willisthere might have been some 'remount in rw mode' item at the start of the recovery menus.14:36
slymicoyeehaw: I'm using webmin14:36
_ikke_dr_willis: Would there be a difference between a Live USB boot and a real installation?14:36
BluesKajatvr, use sudo nano to edit with permissions14:37
dr_willis_ikke_:   the live cd might do hw detection a little differntly.14:37
_ikke_ok14:37
yeehawslymico: err.. I have no experience in that. I work at an isp, where we do everthing manually :P14:37
_ikke_dr_willis: lsusb does show the adapter14:37
Dinahello, when was the last time ubuntu had released updates? i haven't seen any for 16days in update-manager14:37
_ikke_dr_willis: dmesg says: rtl8187 switch is on14:38
_ikke_dr_willis: Ah, it does seem to be on now14:38
yeehawDina: What happens if you type the following in the command line: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade14:38
yeehawDina: Any errors in that output?14:38
Dinanope14:39
Dinait downloads normally some translations, packages etc14:39
yeehawDina: What version of ubuntu are you running?14:39
Dina11.1014:39
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yeehawDina: hmm.. I don't know the release schedule, but I would'nt worry to much14:40
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Adrian_Adrian_NH14:40
Dinawell yeehaw it's weird i haven't seen any security update for 16days :/14:40
yeehawDina: apt-get update checks the repositorys for updated packages. If it gives no errors, the repositorys are online for you. Does it give any output at all?14:41
Adrian_yeehaw: no joy it seems nothing in bios menu mentions ahci? anybody have any solutions?14:41
yeehaw Adrian_: You could try putting the bios back to optimized defaults. There's a very tiny change that might work.14:42
MonkeyDustDina  it seems to me, you're worrying because all is ok14:42
yeehawAdrian_: Dina: gtg, sorry14:43
Dinaokay :) ty for help14:43
Adrian_yeehaw: thanks14:43
DinaMonkeyDust: im not worrying that much, it's just weird14:44
atvrdr_willis: okay, so here it is lol i have made all the change you want me too, then i have updated the grub then i have rebooted and i have still the same issu14:44
Dinai was expecting a firefox9 in updates too :p14:44
slymicoI need a book for ubuntu server configuration14:44
atvrdr_willis: but now i dont have the purple screen, it just go streat to the black one14:44
dr_willisatvr:  no text messages or errors mentioned? no shell login: prompt?14:45
atvrdr_willis: no14:46
timposeychanged my root/admin password, is there anyway to get back into the system?  I can't sudo anything, so I can't change the way the system is working. /etc/default/grub.txt has GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" which I could use, but can't change because I don't have sudo access.  anyone with answers would be greatly appreciated.14:46
atvratvr: it seems like it get into ubuntu but with no screen14:46
MonkeyDusttimposey  try booting a live cd and change the password from there14:46
dr_willis!password14:46
ubottuForgot your password? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords14:46
atvrdr_willis: maybe the screen resolution is not right14:46
theadmintimposey: Append "init=/bin/bash" to your kernel line via the grub menu while booting.14:46
dr_willisatvr:  could be. hard to tell.  nomodeset works for my problem machines14:46
theadmintimposey: Then "mount -o remount,rw / && passwd somebody && sync && mount -o remount,ro / && reboot -f"14:47
atvrdr_willis: do you know how to put the nomodeset in the edit grub2 menu14:47
dr_willisatvr:  thats what we were doing.... making nomdoeset the default14:47
timposeytheadmin are you saying by using the live cd? because otherwise I don't have grub menu14:48
dr_willisatvr:  in /etc/default/grub   the line (similer to this one) GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="noquiet nosplash nomodeset nofb "14:48
theadmintimposey: You need to hold Shift while grub is loading to get into it14:48
dr_willissets nomodeset and turns of other potential problem settings14:48
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atvrdr_willis: i know but when im in grub menu i can press ``e`` to edit comand before booting then i have this line ``linux.....noquiet nosplash nomodeset nofb``14:49
timposeytheadmin, MondeyDust:  ok, let me try that thanks for the help!14:49
ravenany cmd tool to delete rw-disks?14:50
dr_willisatvr: if you just wanted to get to the text console very time  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="noquiet nosplash nomodeset nofb text"   editing the grub menu via 'e' sets it for one time booting.. the /etc/default/grub file sets it permenetly14:50
atvrdr_willis:  oke but i have made it like you said with the /etc/default/grub file14:51
dr_willisatvr:  if nomodeset dosetn help. im out of ideas. you could try installing the drivers for whatever card you have via 'jockey-text' or apt-get if you know the package name14:51
atvrdr_willis: never mind i think i will be installing windows again14:52
dr_willisatvr:  you said you had a guide on it.. im just going from basic trouble shooting stuff.14:52
Metroshicadr_willis whats the issue youre having exactly?14:53
dr_willisMetroshica:  not me.. atvr .14:53
atvrdr_willis: i know but i dont know what to do now, i would like to have ubuntu but it just dont work14:53
timposeytheadmin:  Holding down the shift key does not give me the grub screen14:53
MonkeyDustatvr  what part of ubuntu doesnt work?14:54
atvrMetroshica: my issu is when ubuntu boot, my screen is going black14:54
theadmintimposey: Which Ubuntu version are you running? Are you holding down left or right shift? (has to be left one iirc)14:54
MonkeyDustatvr  before or after the grub screen?14:54
atvrMonkeyDust: i cant get into ubuntu after the grub, my screen is going black14:54
atvrMonkeyDust: after14:54
MonkeyDustso it's a gui issue14:55
atvrMonkeyDust: what that, and can you help me solving this14:55
rkokkelkatvr: do you see a little underscore blinking?14:55
atvrMonkeyDust: i am new to linux14:55
MonkeyDustatvr  can you boot a live cd?14:55
timposeytheadmin I was using the left shift, 10.0414:55
atvrrkokkelk: yes and after that the screen is completly black like its shut off14:56
theadmintimposey: Hmmm 10.04, I don't remember if that had grub2 yet... Try with Escape14:56
atvrMonkeyDust: yes i have one14:56
dr_willisgrub2 = tap the shift key14:56
rkokkelkatvr: if the underscore is blinking it means it cannot boot the partition it wants to boot, this is usually because the root or boot partitioning is not enabled with the boot flag14:57
MonkeyDustatvr  have you tried choosing Recovery in the grub menu?14:57
timposeytheadmin, ok, I'll be back in a minute14:57
rkokkelkatvr: if ubuntu is properly listed in grub, it probably not an grub error but an partitioning error14:58
atvrMonkeyDust: yes and i have 4 option to choose14:58
MonkeyDustatvr  choose Repair, see what happens14:59
atvrrkokkelk: even with a live cd i can only install the alternative iso, the only i can instal it with the normal one is to have nomodeset14:59
atvrMonkeyDust: okay14:59
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atvrMonkeyDust: i dont have repair option, i only have resume, fsck, remount and root15:00
timposeytheadmin: escape did not work either15:00
rkokkelkatvr: but what kind of partitioning you use, do you use automatic or do you configure it yourself?15:01
atvrrkokkelk: ubuntu is the only os installed it used the whole hdd wich is 640gb15:02
rkokkelkatvr: but have you set the root or boot partitioning with the bootable flag?15:02
auronandacerkokkelk: sounds like a graphics issue, not a partition issue to me15:03
auronandaceatvr: did you try dr_willis suggestions?15:03
atvrrkokkelk: no, when i have installed ubuntu i have just selected the hdd15:03
wiredvampeverytime i restart my comp i aways have to restart my xscreensaver because i get this waring " The GNOME screensaver daemon appears to be running it must be stoppedfor XScreenSaver to work properly.  Stop the GNOME screen saver daemon now? " how can i unistall the GNOME screensaver?15:03
MonkeyDustatvr  the first time installing ubuntu?15:03
rkokkelkauronandace: usually if it's an graphical issue you get some feedback, like error message or flashing screen, if he sees only an underscore blinking it means i cannot access the partitioning15:04
atvrdr_willis: now i am at a screen that tells me there is 4new packages ans 291packages that are going to be updated and i have to select yes or no15:04
atvrMonkeyDust: yes15:04
slakcphilwiredvamp, try gnome-screensaver-command --exit15:04
MonkeyDustatvr  choose yes,15:04
auronandacerkokkelk: he also said that to get the livecd working he needs to use nomodeset, which it sounds like he hasn't tried on his install15:04
atvrMonkeyDust: okep15:04
almoxarifeatvr: is ubuntu running on the hardrive or the usb?15:05
atvralmoxarife: on the hdd15:06
wiredvampslakcphil: ok? what will that do?15:06
atvrMonkeyDust: all update have been made now, and i have rebooted now im at a screen wich ask me my user name and password15:06
MonkeyDustatvr  problem solved?15:07
dr_willisatvr:  so you are now getting to a login CONSOLE? or a nice gui login?15:07
atvrlongin console15:07
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MonkeyDustatvr  ctrl-alt-delete15:08
atvrit says that 295package can be updated and 56 are security updates15:08
slakcphilwiredvamp, it should stop the screensaver process if it is already running, you could do that remotely(that is how i used it)15:08
slakcphilwiredvamp, man gnome-screensaver-command15:09
atvrwhat is the command to get the update15:09
atvrMonkeyDust:15:09
dr_willisatvr:  from a console you can do a 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' to install all updated.15:09
dr_willisatvr:  some times  things may get held back andyou do a 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' to pull in eveyrthing15:09
wiredvampslakcphil: i would like to uninstall the GNOME screensaver though not just stop it.15:09
insectatoriousguys, I did an upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 and then 9.10 to 10.04 via the alternate-CDs in each case. Now I get a black screen after the initial bios blurb. I have looked at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 and the nomodeset does not have any effect.15:09
slakcphilwiredvamp, my guess is that you cannot, maybe you could disable it however,15:10
slakcphilwiredvamp, on a side note, i want to write(in py) a screensaver that is like the one in jurassic park movie witht the fat guy(newman) waving his fingre saying ah ah ah, you didn't say the magic password15:11
atvrMonkeyDust: even if i have restarted i still have the console logging thing15:11
wiredvampslakcphil: i was able to uninstall it b4 but i cant seem to find GNOME screensaver in the software center for some reason.15:12
dr_willisatvr:  'startx' should start a X session from the console - if its set up right.15:12
atvrdr_willis: it says server error15:13
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bd7349Anyone mind helping me out with getting Ubuntu 11.10 installed on a separate partition on my MacBook Air15:13
bd7349?15:13
almoxarifeatvr: are you connect to the internet via hardwire?15:13
atvralmoxarife: yes15:13
auronandacebd7349: where are you stuck?15:14
almoxarifeatvr: did you start the update? don't if you have not15:14
atvri have use 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' and the updated have started15:14
atvralmoxarife: :S15:14
bd7349auronandace: I don't know what to format my partition as. I'vel looked everywhere online and can't figure it out. I've got a USB stick plugged in, but cannot go any further without knowing what to format my partition as.15:15
auronandacebd7349: you are installing to usb stick?15:15
jrwrIve been having some trackpad issues with this new install of Xubuntu (11.10) The mouse seems to drift up or down if I try and be precise with it, || lspci : http://paste.ubuntu.com/788883/ .. Xorg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/788884/15:16
atvralmoxarife: do you think update could solve my issue15:16
jrwrwhats the best way to go about fixing this issue15:16
timposeyMonkeyDust:  I burned a live cd and I am at the first screen of the live cd, where do I go from here to change the password15:16
bd7349auronandace: no, but I want to install it from a USB stick. Unless there are easier ways that will work with my MacBook Air?15:16
auronandacebd7349: oh, just chose the default partition type ext415:16
almoxarifeatvr: no15:17
bd7349auronandace: I don't see that as one of the options in Disk Utility. Do you mean ExFAT?15:17
almoxarifeatvr: I rather be told I was wrong15:17
auronandacebd7349: no, are you on the live usb now?15:17
atvralmoxarife: what do you mean15:17
bd7349auronandace: Sorry, I'm confused. What do you mean by live usb?15:18
auronandacebd7349: you are installing ubuntu via usb? have you booted that usb?15:18
almoxarifeatvr: it means I don't think I am wrong, but it would be nice to be wrong15:18
n1c0-nuXjoin #linux15:19
MonkeyDusttimposey  http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/reset-your-ubuntu-password-easily-from-the-live-cd/15:19
bd7349auronandace: not yet. I still need to put ubuntu 11.10 on the USB stick. Should I convert the .iso to a .img or is that not necessary?15:19
auronandace!usb | bd734915:19
ubottubd7349: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent15:19
atvralmoxarife: i just think i would be nice to see ubuntu booting damit lol<15:19
almoxarifeatvr: there is a % at the beginning of the line, what's the number15:20
timposeyMonkeyDust:  I burned the Ubuntu Server cd instead of the live desktop, I'm burning again now.  Thanks for the link...15:20
atvralmoxarife: 5615:20
hayloid reccomend running a live cd and then making the usb stick with startup disk creator inside of that15:20
n1c0-nuXhello everyone15:20
bd7349auronandace: also, what should my usb stick be formatted as?15:20
n1c0-nuXI'm a frech user and i wanna some help about the creation of "scripts"15:20
atvralmoxarife: its now 65%15:21
haylofat 3215:21
rkokkelkn1co-nuX: what kind of script do you wanna create?15:21
auronandacebd7349: i've not installed via usb so i wouldn't know, but that link that ubottu gave you should tell you what you need to know15:21
insectatoriousi realise the 'nomodeset' isn't terribly exciting but could someone help out?15:21
n1c0-nuXrkokkelk, Uuh, execute many commands by launching a simgle file15:22
haylofat 32 and make it with unetbootin or Pendrive linux if you are in windows15:22
pythonirc101I just did a do-release-upgrade. And now it asks me which hard drive it should install grub on : /dev/sda - /dev/sda1 or /dev/dm-0 -- any hints on what the right answer is? is it ok to install it on all 3?15:22
pythonirc101I hope I've not killed my system already15:22
haylosry not pendrive linus "universal usb creator"15:22
rkokkelkn1c0-nuX: okay on internet are a lot of tutorials about this, but very short, an script is an file that start with #!/bin/bash everything undernead this line are just normal command executed in the order they are listed in the file15:23
jrwrPython1320,  your drive is sda just install grub there15:23
haylouniversal usb creator is your best bet for going from windows to ubuntu with only a usb15:23
auronandacehaylo: he is on a mac15:23
n1c0-nuXrkokkelk, ok and wich extention do I add to the file ?15:24
hayloah you know macs are notorious for not working with usb: but unetbootin should be fully compatible for macs unix system15:24
n1c0-nuX(sry for my approximative english)15:24
haylomacs have trouble booting form usb i dont know why but i hear it all the time15:24
rkokkelkn1c0-nuX: the file doesn't need to have an extension, so it just need to be able to execute15:25
rkokkelkn1c0-nuX: you can do this with chmod +x FILE15:25
hayloi would make a normal dvd or cd and use that on the mac15:25
auronandacehaylo: he left15:25
haylooh lol sorry il shut up15:25
n1c0-nuXrkokkelk, thank you very much n_n15:25
wiredvampdoes anyone happen to know how to uninstall the GNOME screensaver beings i have XScreenSaver installed?15:26
rkokkelkn1c0-nuX: no problem, but you can do a lot of cool stuff with scripts so just check the internet for all the posibilities ;)15:26
n1c0-nuXrkokkelk, Yea I'll check it out15:27
ravenhow to format dvd/cd rw disk with cmd?+15:29
dr_williswiredvamp:  i recall the webupd8 blog site having a few tweaks on using xcreensavers as a replacement to gnome-screensaver.15:30
dr_williswiredvamp:  i think theres some 'gnome-screensavers' package you just remove15:30
pythonirc101jrwr: what about the other drives?15:31
wiredvampdr_willis could u point me to the link?15:31
haylowhat protocol does the remote desktop app use in unity 11.04? is it ssh?15:31
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Seveashaylo, the default ubuntu-to-ubuntu remote desktop is vnc15:32
BluesKajraven, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2005-January/017646.html15:32
Seveasbut ubuntu has applications to support rdp or vnc+ssh as well15:32
hayloyeah i have gftp and openssh installed. i have a hard time moving directories with ssh though15:35
pythonirc101anyone can help me with grub installs after do-release-upgrade. I do not want to brick my system.15:35
hayloi would like something my family could use safely to move files and directories around. or should i just use the ssh scp command if i want security?15:36
syockitpythonirc101: just in case, a liveCD or liveUSB would be handy. you'll never know when you'll brick it, so better safe than sorry. And it's possible to recover your system from liveCD/USB15:36
pythonirc101If I install grub on /dev/sda, do I also have to install it in /dev/sda1?15:36
Seveaspythonirc101, no15:37
pythonirc101syockit: I've 3 options: /dev/dm-0 /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda15:37
pythonirc101so I just install it on /dev/sda?15:37
pythonirc101/dev/sda1 (254MB /boot)15:37
Seveas/dev/sda is where you will want it, yes15:37
syockitpythonirc101: what's dm-0?15:37
Seveassyockit, software raid15:37
timposeyMonkeyDust:  I follow the commands until I get to the command to chroot and it comes back chroot:  failed to run command '/bin/bash': Exec format error - any pointers from here15:37
pythonirc101says (33025MB tbuntu-root) /dev/dm-015:38
BluesKajraven, or install wodim and do , wodim dev=/dev/cdrom blank=fast15:38
Seveastimposey, you're chrooting into a partition with the wrong cpu architecture15:38
Seveassuch as trying to chroot into a 64-bit ubuntu on a 32-bit kernel15:38
pythonirc101k chose /dev/sda15:38
timposeyseveas; ok that may be the problem I will burn the 3rd cd now... I can't remember what I have on this computer...15:39
atvralmoxarife: all updated are done now, so when it boot it bring me to a login terminal console, when i loged i have tryed startx then there is alot of imformation that i am able to see but there is a place that is written fatal server error: no screens found15:39
Seveastimposey, try this: filw /path/to/chroot/bin/bash15:40
Seveasthat'll tell you whether it's 32 or 64 bit15:40
Seveasfile, not filw btw :)15:40
BluesKajatvr, which graphics card , in the terminal , lspci | grep VGA15:41
almoxarifeatvr: run this         sudo apt-get install pastebinit15:41
DarkXPhenomenonhappy new yr ubottu!! :P15:41
timposeyseveas filw command not found15:41
Seveastimposey, it's spelled 'file' :)15:42
beyondcr#ubuntu+115:42
BluesKajatvr, sorry, at the prompt , lspci | grep VGA15:42
timposeyseveas  sorry... cannot open no such file or directory15:43
Seveastimposey, then type in the correct path..15:43
atvrBluesKaj: i dont see it in the terminal but its a amd radeon card15:43
vicsar.15:43
atvralmoxarife: update are done15:44
almoxarifeatvr: you ran the line I gave you?15:44
atvralmoxarife: yes15:44
BluesKajatvr, you have a prompt , right ? , then just type it there , your card will be listed15:44
atvrBluesKaj: type what lol i am new to linux15:45
almoxarifeatvr: this on the next line cat /var/log/xorg.0.log | pastebinit15:45
melissa27is there a way to make an already booted ubuntulive cd persistant by manually copying and mounting the fs ?15:45
sirajpersondoes anyone know of a good nintendo emulator for ubutnu 64bit?15:45
BluesKajatvr, lspci | grep VGA15:45
almoxarifethat is a zero15:45
almoxarifeand the long L is pipe15:46
timposeyseveas: I guess I need to wake up... ELF 32BIT LSB executable, Intel 8038615:46
atvralmoxarife: how can i do that ( | )15:46
almoxarifeatvr: shift \15:46
almoxarifeatvr: what you will get in response is a link, share that15:47
timposeySeveas:  I was trying to boot into it with a 32bit ubuntu live cd15:47
Seveastimposey, hmm, that should just work15:47
timposeyseveas:  does it have to be the same 10.04 release of ubuntu15:47
Seveastimposey, no15:48
Seveastry chroot /path/to/chroot /bin/sh15:48
atvralmoxarife: it says you are trying to send an empty document15:49
spaceneedlePowerTop reports that an audio device is active 100% of the time. How do I remove it(hwC0D1 LSI ID 1040)?15:49
almoxarifeatvr: could be, never started15:50
melissa27anybody has experience with pxe booting, live CD and persistance over NFS ?15:50
almoxarifeatvr: this on the next line cat /var/log/syslog | pastebinit15:51
atvrBluesKaj: it says 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI technologies inc device 964715:51
timposeyseveas:  any suggestions on where to go from here?15:52
atvralmoxarife: same thing it says you are trying to send ans empty document15:53
almoxarifeatvr: that one is not empty15:54
jeaCan anyone recommend a way of backing up data over the internet to a home server?15:54
atvralmoxarife: that what`s that fucking laptop says XD i am out of luck15:55
Yonotunickserv15:55
oCeanatvr: again, control your language here, please15:55
almoxarifeatvr: this on the next line cat(space)/var/log/syslog(space)|(space)pastebinit15:55
almoxarifeatvr: the (space) is just that dead air spot15:56
atvralmoxarife: that is exacly what i have inserted15:56
atvralmoxarife: same thing it says you are trying to send ans empty document15:57
almoxarifehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/788919/ <-- I get that from the exact same15:57
almoxarifeatvr: so, the mysteries go on15:58
atvralmoxarife: i know but maybe its because ubuntu never started15:58
almoxarifeatvr: yeah, that's it15:58
atvralmoxarife: i think ive got the solution, i will hook the laptop on my jeep and have a little ride on the highway maybe it will work....16:00
almoxarifeatvr: You are trying to send an empty document, exiting. <-- I get that too, when I don't have the spaces between 'cat' 'var/log/syslog'16:01
atvralmoxarife: ive put the space16:01
antiannohi folks! i was wondering, why isn't it possible to install both amd64 and i386 versions of SDL on a amd64 host (oneiric)? if i try to install, say, libsdl1.2debian-alsa:i386 explicitly, apt wants to remove the amd64-version :(16:01
almoxarifeatvr: count them from the C of cat to the I of pastebinit16:02
antiannowhich is a problem for me since i have other (amd64) applications which also rely on SDL ...16:02
atvralmoxarife: count what16:02
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FloodBot1iGoogle: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:02
almoxarifeatvr: the spaces16:03
atvralmoxarife: there is 3 space16:03
almoxarifekinda cool16:03
mneptokantianno: it's probably libraries. install virtualbox-ose and then install a pure 32-bit Ubuntu into a VM.16:03
mneptokantianno: or, with some extra effort, you could sandbox the 32-bit stuff you need.16:04
antiannomneptok: well, the host is not exactly a powerful one, so i guess sandboxing would be nicer ... any hints?16:05
mneptokantianno: it's something i have done only a couple of times, and years ago. so my hint is, "go look at search results for a few hours." :/16:06
mneptokantianno: sorry i cannot be more helpful16:06
mika__hi all16:06
mneptokantianno: certainly chroot is going to be a tool you use.16:06
mika__happy new year16:06
CriticalCorehey hello ^16:07
antiannomneptok: no worries, i mean, the new year is coming, other things should be on our mind, right ;)16:07
mneptokantianno: right you are if you say so. :)16:07
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antiannothen no SNES gaming at the party tonight, i guess ...16:08
mika__I'm having problems with sound output - it just doesn't work and I wonder how to find out the problem. Any suggestions?16:09
MonkeyDustmika__  start by typing alsamixer in a terminal, make sure there's no MM16:09
mneptokantianno: not unless you get a 32 bit machine. i have yet to find any reliable, working SNES emu on AMD64. and i have tried.16:09
* mneptok uses ZSNES on the 32-bit box downstairs16:09
mika__MonkeyDust: there's MM by "Speaker", what to do?16:10
antiannowait a minute, i could try with my laptop ... isn't the optimal solution, but if it works ... hmm!16:10
MonkeyDustmika__  MM means Mute16:10
mneptokantianno: laptop VGA > TV's DSUB16:10
gijotomhi16:11
mneptokantianno: you in the US? and if so, may i PM?16:11
MonkeyDustmika__  use the arrows to go to speaker and press M16:11
mika__MonkeyDust: done, still no sound... should I do anything additional?16:12
kernelpanickerI just discovered the windows key (to produce the ribbon) and then windows-tab produces numbers on the items in the ribbon... how do I get the same effect after I start searching for items in the ribbon?16:13
antiannomneptok: sry was afk shortly16:14
antiannomneptok: although i'm not in the US, you may PM me ..16:14
Barnabaskernelpanicker, I think you can just keep the windows button pressed16:14
kernelpanickerok16:15
Barnabasnow known as the unity button16:15
MonkeyDustmika__  no sound at all, or just in one application?16:15
kernelpanickerthanks... I wanted another name for that16:16
kernelpanickerI need some of those little stickers16:16
mika__MonkeyDust: no sound at all, should I restart the system to apply the mixer changes or anythig?16:16
MonkeyDustmika__  you could try it16:17
kernelpanickerwhat is the name of the panel that, in my case, pops out from the left when the unity button is pressed, and what is the differentiating name of the fly-out when the top icon is pressed, that lets you search by typing, and for that matter, what is the name of that icon?16:17
kernelpanickersorry, lots of questions, but need to be able to ask questions about these things so need names ;)16:17
* samsul is away: cari makan16:18
MonkeyDustkernelpanicker  the fly-out is called Dash16:18
bazhangsamsul, disable that16:18
kernelpanickerMonkeyDust: ok16:19
kernelpanickermy only issue right now is that I have to mouse to items that appear in the dash16:19
kernelpanickerwhen I want some binding or picklist functionality to get them16:19
kernelpanickerfor instance, I'll type firefox, and the browser icon appears below, and I have to use the arrow keys or mouse to launch it16:20
finish06i just added an unformated 1.5TB hdd to my computer, running 11.11 ubuntu, and  it does not show up in disk utility... any reasons??16:20
kernelpanickerhence my excitement when I accidentally discovered the superimposed numbers on the ribbon this morning when I used unity-tab16:20
theadminkernelpanicker: Try launchy16:20
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* happynewyr 201216:22
kernelpanickertheadmin: ok... but when I'm looking for a single feature, I always try to see if it's in what I've got, as I try to use what's baked into systems as much as possible16:22
finish06i just added an unformated 1.5TB hdd to my computer, running 11.11 ubuntu, and  it does not show up in disk utility... any reasons??16:22
happynewyrfinish06: doesit show up in df -k16:23
finish06happynewyr, it does not. :(16:24
happynewyrdoes it show up in the bios?16:24
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finish06think I maybe installed it wrong in the SATA ports then???  yeah, let me check the BIOS lol..16:24
ithetuxciao16:25
happynewyrciao ithetux16:25
MonkeyDustlist?16:25
finish06what happens if you changes sata ports while the computer is running?16:25
happynewyrfinish06: you don't want to do that, ever. unless it is a hot swappable in which case it will not be SATA16:26
slakcphilfinish06, could be bad16:26
ithetuxè la prima volta che uso xchat, nei canali ci sono persone da tutto il mondo o solo del proprio stato?16:26
slakcphilcorruption at least16:26
finish06oo... good to know.  let me turn off the computer and then switch them!!  :) lol.16:26
MonkeyDust!it| ithetux16:26
ubottuithetux: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)16:26
happynewyrithetux: i don't speak italian16:26
finish06i dont'16:26
finish06i don't want corruption!!!'16:26
slakcphilfinidh06, then don't work for wall street!16:26
happynewyrfinish06: it will be more than corruption. switch off and ground yourself16:26
cypher-neoslakcphil, LOL!16:27
finish06be back in a moment. peace mates!16:27
happynewyrslakcphil: LOL16:27
cypher-neoslakcphil, Or any government at all!16:27
slakcphil:P16:28
MonkeyDustcorruption is the glue for power :p16:28
happynewyrMonkeyDust: like xanthan gum :)16:28
linuxearthhi16:29
linuxearthhow can i learn linux?16:29
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cypher-neolinuxearth, Jump in. The waters great!16:29
linuxearthok but how do i learn?16:30
linuxearthi have a single pc only, nothing for experiments16:30
slakcphillinuxearth, read the man pages for every command possible16:30
linuxearthshould i learn commands?16:30
linuxearthor what?16:30
eiriksvinhi guys, I'm having alot of issues with my Netgear WNDA3100 USB Wifi on my amd64, I have tried a bunch of tuts on how to do it and searched blogs, can someone help me get this darn thing working... Ubuntu is NOT being nice16:30
pangolin!manual | linuxearth this should get you started with Ubuntu.16:30
ubottulinuxearth this should get you started with Ubuntu.: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/16:30
MonkeyDustlinuxearth  start here http://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/32474-a-windows-users-guide-to-linux.html16:30
wildc4rdchuck ubuntu on a box and play with it16:30
linuxearthok16:30
cypher-neolinuxearth, Learn Terminal commands, and shell scripting.16:30
slakcphilopen a terminal, type man ls then press enter16:31
linuxearththanks guys many links16:31
kernelpanickerI went to a bookstore with comptuer magazines, and grabbed a magazine that has a live Ubuntu CD on it,16:31
BluesKajc'mon guys , the terminalogy isn't familiar to him16:31
_ikke_How can I add / change an icon in the unity starter? I had a desktop icon to a wine program, but after I deleted it from the desktop, it got removed from the starter too. Now I only get the wine starter icon if I launch it from dash.16:31
owenlllinuxearth: ask questions here and on the ubuntuforums, and read the ubuntu guides16:31
slakcphilman ls16:31
kernelpanickerthen booted my computer from the live CD, choosing the 'Try Ubuntu' option16:31
slakcphilthat's easy, then just read on how to ls a directory16:31
BluesKaj!linux | linuxearth16:31
ubottulinuxearth: Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as a kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux16:31
kernelpanicker(this is if you don't have ubuntu installed on your computer)16:31
linuxearthpangolin: ty MonkeyDust: ty, owenll, cypher-neo: i just see many resources here16:31
kernelpanickerthen go online and look up a little bash tutorial16:31
cypher-neolinuxearth, Also, every scripting language16:31
kernelpanickerlinuxearth: do you have linux installed?16:32
cypher-neolinuxearth, lol. Ignore that16:32
linuxearthscripting language?16:32
cypher-neolinuxearth, I mistyped.16:32
linuxearthok16:32
kernelpanickerlinuxearth: do you have linux running on a computer?16:32
slakcphil!gdm | linuxearth16:32
linuxearthi am right now chatting from an office pc having linux16:33
linuxearthat home i have windows vista16:33
cypher-neoAn office PC?16:33
slakcphil<ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gdm16:33
linuxearthyes16:33
slakcphil:P16:33
cypher-neoSo you really can't make any changes to the programming, or the office will be pissed?16:33
linuxearthyes16:33
slakcphil!gnome | linuxearth16:33
kernelpanickerok16:33
ubottulinuxearth: GNOME is the default !desktop environment on Ubuntu up to 10.10 To install it from Kubuntu or Xubuntu, type « sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop » in a !terminal.16:33
linuxearthjust chating for 5-10 mins here16:33
kernelpanickerso, google 'learn bash' in a major search engine...16:34
slakcphil!kde | linuxearth16:34
ubottulinuxearth: KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information.16:34
kernelpanickerand look for a little tutorial16:34
linuxearthshould i install at home ubuntu wiping out windows vista?16:34
cypher-neoIn other words... you really can't do anything at the office. Go try to install Linux on your home computer and then experiment; for you, that will be the easiest way to learn.16:34
slakcphil!wubi | linuxearth16:34
ubottulinuxearth: Wubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for troubleshooting. Please  file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug. For Ubuntu Maverick/10.10 http://releases.ubuntu.com/maverick/wubi.exe16:34
kernelpanickeropen a tutorial, move around the directories from the commandline16:34
happynewyrlinuxearth: removing Vista and installing Ubuntu -> Great Idea16:34
kernelpanickerubottu: I think he has linux installed16:34
ubottukernelpanicker: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:34
kernelpanickerlol16:34
kernelpanickergot me16:35
happynewyrlinuxearth: will save you so much trouble and heartache16:35
linuxearthhappynewyr: if i would get stuck in the middle i would lose both - ubuntu as well as vista?16:35
happynewyrWell, you can use the LiveCD and if you likeit, install Ubuntu16:35
happynewyrlinuxearth: or you can install it as a dual boot and then do away with Vista16:35
linuxearthlive cd? that is to be downloaded then? from ubuntu website (I guess)16:36
linuxearthok i should google16:36
edbianlinuxearth, stuck in the middle?  If you get stuck in the middle start installing ubuntu again16:36
linuxearthwhat's one was telling of wubi?16:36
kernelpanickerlinuxearth: you can download it.  Do you know how to burn CD's from iso's on your system?16:36
linuxearthwhat's wubi?16:36
linuxearthok16:36
slakcphil!wubi | linuxearth16:36
ubottulinuxearth: Wubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for troubleshooting. Please  file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug. For Ubuntu Maverick/10.10 http://releases.ubuntu.com/maverick/wubi.exe16:36
linuxearthok16:36
kernelpanickerlinuxearth: but the wubi approach is better16:36
MonkeyDustlinuxearth  forget wubi16:36
edbianlinuxearth, You don't want wubi.  It simplifies the install by making it a thing you install INSIDE windows.  This has major technical limitiations16:37
slakcphilyeah wubi sux16:37
linuxearthok16:37
kernelpanickerlinuxearth: however... on occasion a windows system will be hosed by wubi16:37
linuxearthso i should download the cd?16:37
edbianlinuxearth, wubi makes debugging problems later much harder16:37
edbianlinuxearth, or the DVD16:37
edbianlinuxearth, whatev16:37
slakcphilyou are still depending on the windoze filesystem and bootloader16:37
linuxearthshould i burn that with nero after downloading?16:37
happynewyrlinuxearth: download Ubuntu ISO from Ubuntu website, burn it on CD or thumb drive and restart.16:37
edbianlinuxearth, you have to download an ISO burner too, there are instructions on the site16:37
kernelpanickerlinuxearth: I would probably go the CD route if you'd be ruined if you lost your window system16:37
edbianlinuxearth, if nero can burn ISOs16:37
happynewyrlinuxearth: Nero would do the trick nicely16:37
linuxearthok16:38
kernelpanickerlinuxearth: but if it doesn't matter, use the wubi route16:38
linuxearthin vista nero is there16:38
kernelpanickerlinuxearth: I think learning about the CD's is a good way to go, anyway16:38
happynewyrlinuxearth: then you're covered.. download ISO, burn using Nero and restart16:38
edbiankernelpanicker, linuxearth I strongly suggest not doing wubi16:38
happynewyrlinuxearth: when u restart make sure the CD is in and you boot from CD16:38
linuxearthok i start the download today, i guess (i don't know) that linux should be (?) better than vista?16:38
eiriksvinCan someone help me get my Netgear WNDA3100 working on my Ubuntu amd64 11.10? I have tried a bunch of tuts and searched blogs, but no go so far...16:38
kernelpanickeredbian, linuxearth, I'm in agreement16:38
kernelpanickerlinuxearth: I'd go the CD route16:38
happynewyrlinuxearth: start now. :)16:39
linuxearthok16:39
happynewyrjust 700 MB should be quick16:39
linuxearthand from ubuntu.com16:39
happynewyrlinuxearth: yep16:39
kernelpanickerlinuxearth: try to connect to your router with an ethernet line when booting from the CD's16:39
cypher-neolinuxearth, One thing you could do from the office computer is make yourself a bootable USB drive.16:39
linuxearthusb?16:39
kernelpanickerlinuxearth: because sometimes linux has a hard time connecting to wireless routers initially16:39
linuxearth2 gb usb?16:40
slakcphildude, check out linux.org it looks like a ddos16:40
edbianlinuxearth, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download16:40
kernelpanickerlinuxearth: you can make a bootable thumb drive (usb drive) instead of the CD16:40
kernelpanickerlinuxearth: but the CD is simpler, IMHO16:40
spoqdont panick...16:40
linuxearthi guess i should go for a simple cd16:40
spoqkernelpanicker is nearby!16:40
kernelpanickerlinuxearth: how nearby?16:40
spoqvery!16:40
linuxearth??16:40
kernelpanickeroh lol16:40
happynewyrlinuxearth: yep, get the CD16:40
slakcphilwell it says bandwidth limit, did their isp run out of minutes?16:41
cypher-neolinuxearth, Once you've downloaded the ISO from the website, if you have a spare 2Gb usb stick, pop it into the computer and open the Terminal. Type "usb-creator-gtk" and follow the onscreen instructions. It will transfer the disc image to a USB flash drive so it works like a startup disc.16:41
happynewyrcypher-neo: he's on WIndows...16:41
slakcphilThe server is temporarily unable to service your request due to the site owner reaching his/her bandwidth limit. Please try again later.16:41
cypher-neohappynewyr, He's on Ubuntu at the office16:41
linuxearthcypher-neo: i can try16:41
slakcphillinux.org ^^16:41
Dynamitthen linux.org apache server does what it should when to big traffic16:41
happynewyrlinuxearth: if you've doubts use the CD and Nero...16:42
slakcphilDynamit, yeah? cool16:42
linuxearthwhich ubuntu i choose: 11.10 or 10.04 lts? at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download16:42
cypher-neolinuxearth, I find the USB drive nicer because it doesn't lock up your CD drive while you are previewing Ubuntu.16:42
kernelpanickerlinuxearth: if you have a spare computer, then you can talk to us on one while messing around with the CD on another16:42
linuxearthok16:42
rohitjhacommand to list all connected hardware16:42
slakcphilDynamit, yeah looks like 2.1 mod_bwlimited16:42
_ikke_How do I create a new unity launcher?16:42
linuxearthbut i choose : 11.10 or 10.04 at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download to start the download?16:42
Kitenlinuxearth, personally i prefer 10.04 lts16:42
cypher-neolinuxearth, 11.10 is the current version. 10.04 is a long term supported version. Both are stable and usable.16:43
Dynamitstill it do what it should do16:43
linuxearthanyone?16:43
owenllrohitjha:  lshw16:43
Kitenbut you can use 11.10 if you want you can see the difference on ubuntu's site16:43
happynewyrlinuxearth: go with 10.0416:43
Dynamitto protect it self16:43
linuxearthok then 10.04 since longer support?16:43
edbianlinuxearth, cypher-neo just answered you16:43
linuxearthok16:43
happynewyrlinuxearth: 10.04 is long term support...16:43
linuxearthi come back tomarrow after install from home pc?16:43
happynewyrlinuxearth: once you install and you like you can always try 11.1016:44
eiriksvinCan someone help me get my Netgear WNDA3100 working on my Ubuntu amd64 11.10? I have tried a bunch of tuts and searched blogs, but no go so far...16:44
edbianlinuxearth, what's going to take so long?  come back in 40 min when it's done16:44
linuxearthnope but i have to install it in home pc16:44
kernelpanickerlinuxearth: also, it's amazing how a live ubuntu CD will suddenly resurrect an old assumed dead windows machine16:44
happynewyrlinuxearth: come back when or during your install if you need help16:44
kernelpanickerlinuxearth: people think the computer is dead, when of course it's just windows that's dead16:44
linuxearthok16:44
Kitenlinuxearth, you can see what they look like on google images16:44
slakcphillinuxearth, i must say, if you want to learn "linux" you should get an old stable pentium 4 with know hardware and just play with distros that have fundamental differences. like centos/fedora suse debian/ubuntu slackware etc.16:44
kernelpanickerso you can get another computer for free16:44
linuxearthbut i guess first, i should read the installation instructions also16:44
slakcphilknown good hardware^^16:44
cypher-neoeiriksvin, What's not working?16:44
kernelpanickerwhere I live, there are actually dozens of computers sitting at the city dump16:44
MonkeyDustkernelpanicker  to most people, computer == windows16:45
edbianeiriksvin, googling16:45
eiriksvinI run Windows Wireless Drivers after installing correctly. A window comes up and I click Add new driver/device. I then choose the appropriate .inf file. Immidiately, a window appears showing "MODULE COULD NOT BE LOADED, ERROR: [BLANK]"16:45
kernelpanickerlinuxearth: which can be turned on, booted from a cd, have ubuntu installed, and voila16:45
cypher-neokernelpanicker, Wish i had a dump like that!!16:45
kernelpanickercypher-neo: yeah... they get mad when you grab one, though...16:45
linuxearthslakcphi: i have started the download of ubuntu only? you are saying for more other distros too?16:45
slakcphillinuxearth check out the differences in rc.d and init.d and all that good stuff16:45
edbianeiriksvin, what is the chipset of this card?16:45
happynewyrlinuxearth: start with Ubuntu16:45
edbianeiriksvin, I'll keep in mind that you tried to use ndiswrapper16:45
linuxearthwhat's rc.d?16:45
kernelpanickercypher-neo: because they have some deal with a recycling company or something16:45
eiriksvinwnda3100v216:45
happynewyronce you settle down in it, you can explore the other distros16:46
linuxearthslakcphil: what's rc.d and what init.d?16:46
kernelpanickercypher-neo: so you park next to it, dump some stuff, and pop an old dell or whatever into your car16:46
slakcphillinuxearth wikipedia and man pages are your friend16:46
edbianlinuxearth, a folder containing scripts that run on the local machine at boot tie16:46
linuxearthok16:46
cypher-neokernelpanicker, I would totally do that!16:46
linuxearthi have started the ubuntu download16:46
edbianlinuxearth, init.d is a folder of other scripts that run at boot time16:46
kernelpanickercypher-neo: the recycling companies get rare metals etc from the hard drive platters16:46
eiriksvinBus 001 Device 005: ID 0846:9011 NetGear, Inc. WNDA3100(v2) 802.11n [Broadcom BCM4323]16:46
kernelpanickerlinuxearth: yahoo16:46
happynewyrlinuxearth: just out of curioisity what is themachine you're installing this16:46
linuxearthok16:46
edbianlinuxearth, why are you asking about this folders?16:46
edbianeiriksvin, ok hang on16:46
slakcphiledbian because i mentioned them16:47
spoqhi edbian, #debian is where you need to go.16:47
edbianslakcphil, oh :P16:47
cypher-neoeiriksvin, What's wrong with using the default Ubuntu network setup?16:47
happynewyrlinuxearth: some hardware can give you trouble :) Broadcom for instance16:47
edbianspoq, stop that! :P16:47
spoq:D16:47
edbianeiriksvin, sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer16:47
linuxearthwould it detect the printer, i guess yes16:47
happynewyrmay printers are auto detected and installed16:47
happynewyr*many16:47
linuxearthok16:48
kernelpanickerlinuxearth: well, today you're starting linux, and today I'm starting java16:48
linuxearthok16:48
linuxearthand today the year is ending!!16:48
happynewyrkernelpanicker: cool... Python would be an easier language to learn16:48
eiriksvinedbian trying it now16:48
happynewyrlinuxearth: in some places it already has ended16:48
edbianeiriksvin, are you sure about your device chipset?  4323 ?16:48
slakcphillinuxearth, i was just saying that most linux distros are diff from each other, but if you learn the redhat/centos/fedora and debian/ubuntu you will do well since the two have very diff ways of doing everything.16:48
linuxearthyes16:49
eiriksvini just lsusb it16:49
eiriksvineiriksvin@Eiriks-Linux:~$ lsusb16:49
eiriksvinBus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub16:49
eiriksvinBus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub16:49
eiriksvinBus 001 Device 004: ID 050d:945a Belkin Components16:49
eiriksvinBus 001 Device 005: ID 0846:9011 NetGear, Inc. WNDA3100(v2) 802.11n [Broadcom BCM4323]16:49
FloodBot1eiriksvin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:49
eiriksvinoops sorry16:49
linuxearthslakcphil: but i should start with ubuntu16:49
linuxearth??16:49
slakcphillinuxearth like where they put config files and such, but for the most part the same16:49
kernelpanickerhappynewyr: you're right, but have to do java for work16:49
edbianeiriksvin, oh wait, this is a USB device?16:49
happynewyrlinuxearth: Ubuntu is your best transition linux16:49
eiriksvinyeah16:50
slakcphillinuxearth definately, it has the best community16:50
edbianeiriksvin, this site says that device isn't supported yet: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b4316:50
happynewyrkernelpanicker: Java is a pain... and I was among the first 200 java developers globally16:50
eiriksvinis that Linksys dual band supported?16:50
edbianeiriksvin, I have no idea?16:50
kernelpanickerhappynewyr: holy smokes16:50
kernelpanickerhappynewyr: first 200!16:50
kernelpanickerhappynewyr: wow16:51
happynewyryep, way back in 199616:51
happynewyrwhen java was not yet 1.016:51
MonkeyDustwhen we was young and beautiful16:51
kernelpanickerhappynewyr: well, I was learning lisp, but it's got to be java for now for work16:51
kernelpanickerI am middle aged and partially beautiful16:52
happynewyrkernelpanicker: Java is good from an Object Oriented Language perspective16:52
happynewyrkernelpanicker: partially?16:52
kernelpanickerhappynewyr: yes, I have no qualms learning it16:52
spoqdo you still use the original linux?16:52
mebigfatguy_(from the feet down)16:52
kernelpanickerhappynewyr: yes, my left elbow is still beautiful16:52
happynewyrkernelpanicker: it's just too complicated now16:52
reloadedhai Guys !! I have a Bandluxe usb sim modem , when I connect the modem in 11.10 It is automaticaly dectecting the SIM service and I can setup my plan in that ! But when I connected the modem in 10.04 it will not act as the 11.10 configuration How to get connect the modem in 10.0416:53
kernelpanickerhappynewyr: yeah... I think that has something to do with why people make money with it... lol... fixing problems from the complexity16:53
eiriksvingrr ubuntu can be so frustrating sometimes, the top of the market is Netgear, why wouldn't they focus on getting support for what people are going to buy16:53
kernelpanickerhappynewyr: at any rate, there is no avoiding it for me now16:53
happynewyrkernelpanicker: Java is good for some stuff, but ppl use it for everything and that sucks16:53
kernelpanickerhappynewyr: yeah... my strategy is to try to learn as many languages as I can16:54
happynewyrkernelpanicker: and then Oracle comes along to screw with the Sun implementation16:54
slakcphilhappynewyr, :P16:54
kernelpanickerhappynewyr: yeah16:54
happynewyrkernelpanicker: tried haxe?16:54
kernelpanickerhappynewyr: nope16:54
happynewyrpromising as a language16:54
kernelpanickerhappynewyr: if I go a new language route, it will be one of the lisp variants16:54
reloadedhai Guys !! I have a Bandluxe usb sim modem , when I connect the modem in 11.10 It is automaticaly dectecting the SIM service and I can setup my plan in that ! But when I connected the modem in 10.04 it will not act as the 11.10 configuration How to get connect the modem in 10.0416:55
happynewyrkernelpanicker: love Lips so much?16:55
happynewyr*lisp16:55
anmar`11:38 *** behanw JOIN16:55
LosFrijolesis it considered bad practice for me to use the same ssh keys for both my laptop and desktop or should they have different keys?16:55
anmar`LosFrijoles: not really... just keep your private key private.16:55
happynewyrreloaded: maybe the driver is not in the 10.04 repos16:56
kernelpanickerhappynewyr: looking at teh HaXe site16:56
kernelpanickerhappynewyr: I love the Lips16:56
happynewyrkernelpanicker: :)16:56
LosFrijolesanmar`: i did it to make my computers look the same when logging in to my website so I just wanted to make sure that wasn't going to cause problems. thx16:56
slakcphilLosFrijoles, i think it is bad practice to use keys unless scripting, especially on portables like laptops and desktops16:56
kernelpanickerwell... going to my java learning now... I'll check in periodically16:57
happynewyralright folks, gotta run now...16:57
slakcphilnot to start a flamefest but...16:57
kernelpanickerslakcphil: oh no16:57
* happynewyr 2012to all16:57
slakcphil:P16:57
happynewyrok, now am waiting to see slakcphil's flame war16:57
slakcphilkernelpanicker, where do you do your learning?16:57
reloadedhappynewyr, I have windows drivers  for the modem ,is that any way I can use it for using the modem in  10.0416:57
happynewyrreloaded: ndiswrapper? not sure really...16:58
slakcphilhappynewyr, i also think that gnome and unity are non-linuxish compared to kde!16:58
* happynewyr reminds slakcphil about the flamewar16:58
slakcphil:P16:58
happynewyrI hate Unity!16:58
happynewyrmiss the Gnome 2.016:58
reloaded_happynewyr, I have windows drivers  for the modem ,is there any way I can use it for using the modem in  10.0416:59
sburwood1Happy New Year ... a little early, I admit16:59
happynewyrmoved safely to xfce becase KDE is bad as well16:59
slakcphilyeah, iwill miss the old ubuntu splash boot screens16:59
slakcphilthe one with the big orange bar16:59
happynewyrreloaded_: not sure without the chipset etc16:59
theadminhappynewyr: Don't you find XFCE even more powerful and functional than Gnome2?16:59
happynewyrwhat does lspci tell you?16:59
happynewyrI love xfce... works beautifully on my netbook17:00
happynewyrand a couple of my friends are contributors. so loyalty FTW17:00
anmar`11:59 <reloaded_> happynewyr, I have windows drivers  for the modem ,is there any way I can use it for using the modem in  10.0417:00
atari314Hello, anyone knows if is it possible to run some program parallel to tty login (CLI login)? (like leave X loading while logging the user)17:00
theadminhappynewyr: May I pm you?17:00
happynewyrtheadmin: sure17:01
slakcphili like salix, the slackware based lightweight system with the ratpoison wm, it works great in a vm with win7 host and limited ram17:01
eiriksvinWhere's the Ubuntu 11.10 USB Wifi adapters supported list?17:01
sburwood1I want to convert some flv files into mp3 format.  I have Ubuntu 11.10. What applications are available to do that?17:01
eiriksvinso I can go down to Walmart and trade this crap in17:01
happynewyrsburwood1: ffmpeg17:01
Stanley00Happy new year!!!17:01
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FloodBot1slakcphil: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:02
sburwood1happynewyr: That can convert from video into audio?17:02
spoqloool17:03
eiriksvinCan someone tell me where the Ubuntu 11.10 USB Wifi adapters supported list?17:04
pksadiq!wifi | eiriksvin17:05
ubottueiriksvin: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs17:05
reloaded_happynewyr, what is the name of software that used to connect the mobile broadband in 11.1017:06
Oerhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported17:06
who_meeiriksvin: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/category/WIRELESS17:06
linuxearththanks guys, i come tomarrow after install17:07
reloaded_happynewyr, what is the name of software that used to connect the mobile broadband in 11.1017:08
reloaded_ what is the name of software that used to connect the mobile broadband in 11.1017:08
kernelpanickerhow do I show the desktop in unity (keybinding)?17:09
Seveasreloaded_, network-manager17:09
eiriksvinBroadcom BCM4323 not supported... grrr17:10
Seveaskernelpanicker, [windows key] + d I believe17:10
MonkeyDust!bcm| eiriksvin17:10
ubottueiriksvin: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs17:10
eiriksvinI'm goiing back and trying the linksys17:10
happynewyreiriksvin: broadcom's fault17:11
toad_bottlewhile applying security upgrades via synpatic to my ubuntu 10.04, my computer froze and I had to do a forced shutdown. Now I cant boot at all. It always stops at the login screen with the message, "The configuration defaults for GNOME Power Manager have not been installed correctly". And I wouldn't even be able to move my mouse on the login prompt. keys wont work either. When I tried to get into recovery mode, it stops at Applyin17:11
shadhinhi frnz17:12
happynewyrtoad_bottle: that's a bad scene17:12
toad_bottlehappynewyr: what do u recommend i do?17:12
happynewyrcan you see if you can open a terminal?17:12
shadhinHappy new year frndz17:13
happynewyrctrl alt f117:13
toad_bottlenope17:13
toad_bottlei tried that17:13
zCoderhi17:13
MonkeyDusttoad_bottle  i've had, too, i had to connect via ssh, backup and reinstall17:13
zCoder  what does    ../   ./   /   mean?17:13
zCoderwhat represents what dir?17:13
fubbi../ = one folder up17:13
MonkeyDustzCoder  / is root,17:13
happynewyr./ is current dir17:14
joed_hello17:14
toad_bottleMonkeyDust: how can i connect via ssh if I cant' even boot ubuntu normally?17:14
joed_can anyone help me with synergy?17:14
zCoder? / root of the current dir  or overall root?17:14
happynewyrtoad_bottle: can you ping it? maybe it does boot but Gnome is dead17:14
toad_bottlewould openssh be running17:14
happynewyroverall root is /17:14
MonkeyDusttoad_bottle  forgot to mention, i have more than 1 pc, did over the local network17:14
zCoderis there a referance to this on the net .. what would i look for17:15
happynewyrtoad_bottle: if X is dying, then ssh would run17:15
zCoderdir structure isnt it17:15
happynewyrzCoder... that is the linux directory structure17:15
joed_can anyone help with configuring synergy?17:15
happynewyrzCoder: it is different slightly from the way Windows does it17:15
Sidewinder1zCoder, Usually root is in /..17:15
toad_bottleic17:15
toad_bottleso I should just boot my computer, then use another computer to ssh into it17:16
zCoderim actually asking more toward programming17:16
happynewyrtoad_bottle: worth trying17:16
zCoderim in public_html     in there it might be / considered root17:16
MonkeyDusttoad_bottle  try booting from a live cd or thumdrive, backup from there and reinstamm17:16
MonkeyDustll17:16
happynewyrzCoder: / is the root of the system, Apache will have a different root17:17
usuariojnç17:17
happynewyrand Apache's root will be defined in the config file17:17
owenlltoad_bottle: this is out there http://paste.ubuntu.com/788988/17:17
zCoderright.. but apaches root will also be accessed by /17:17
zCoderbecause i dont have permissions to go further17:17
Sidewinder1zCoder, When you say public, or /pub, that's usually associated with an FTP Server..17:17
usuariobecouse17:17
toad_bottleowenll: unfortunately, i tried booting into recovery mode, but it gets stuck halfway through17:17
zCoderalright so whats ./  and ../   ?17:18
zCoderagain17:18
owenlltoad_bottle: ok sorry :-/17:19
yumbozCoder, ./ is the current directory you're in17:19
rumpe1zCoder, . = current folder, .. = previous folder17:19
zCoderhmm previous?17:19
zCoderyou mean the one the current one resides in?17:20
happynewyrzCoder: parent17:20
toad_bottleno worries17:20
zCoderahh17:20
rumpe1zCoder, yes17:20
zCoderalright, thanks guys.17:20
happynewyrzCoder: take care17:20
zCoderbye17:21
toad_bottlei dont really have much files saved yet. mostly programs that are installed. Might just mount my filesystem and look at my bash_history to see what programs/dependencies/libraries i have to install and how i configured them. then do a clean install again17:22
toad_bottleif ssh from another machine doesnt work17:23
happynewyrtoad_bottle: if you don't have much data to lose, then reinstall Ubuntu on a diff partition17:23
toad_bottlehappynewyr: what not just reinstall it on the same partition?17:24
toad_bottlewhy*17:24
happynewyrtoad_bottle: you can if you don't have any data/programs to lose17:24
happynewyrtoad_bottle: if your mbr or grub is broken, then you could probably fix it17:25
toad_bottlehow do i fix it?17:25
toad_bottleor how do i know whether its broken17:25
happynewyrtoad_bottle: do you see the grub menu?17:26
cypher-neoIs there any reason why aptitude was removed from 11.10?17:26
toad_bottle4 things17:26
toad_bottlenormal, recovery, memory test, and another memory test17:26
toad_bottleand i can do ctrl-c to go to command line17:26
happynewyrcypher-neo: Canonical likes to mess with it's users' mind17:26
toad_bottlebut the command line is not bash complete17:26
happynewyrtoad_bottle: ok, so it was the first install17:26
toad_bottleits very limited17:27
toad_bottleyep17:27
toad_bottleits the first install17:27
FloodBot1toad_bottle: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:27
happynewyrtoad_bottle: and if you don't have too much data, just go ahead and reinstall17:27
cypher-neohappynewyr, lol. I just reinstalled it, cause I modded my .bashrc file with an aptitude command, and I realized when I tried to run it that omfg, it's not installed!17:27
happynewyron the same partition if you want to17:27
toad_bottleok, i'll just reinstall it then :(17:27
toad_bottlethanks17:28
cypher-neohappynewyr, I just wanted to make sure I wouldn't break something else by installing it.17:28
toad_bottlefor the tips17:28
happynewyrtoad_bottle: you're welcome17:28
happynewyrcypher-neo: you can't break too much17:28
happynewyrcypher-neo: besides you learn when you break17:28
happynewyr:)17:28
cypher-neohappynewyr, You'd be surprised!!17:28
cypher-neohappynewyr, But, you're right, I do learn things when I break them.17:29
happynewyrcypher-neo: if I am even here and able to help people, it's because I've broken everything possible in my Ubuntu systems17:30
cypher-neololol!17:30
happynewyrcypher-neo: I've mucked about quite a bit... short of compiling my own kernel, i''ve done pretty much everything else17:30
cypher-neohappynewyr, Me too. I actually enjoy breaking things. It's only a pain in the butt when you break something and then have to back up 50+Gigs to make sure you don't lose anything.17:31
Kitenhappynewyr, yeah same hear thats really the only thing i haven't done yet17:31
happynewyryeah, I much about in my VMs quite a bit17:31
Kitenyeah i just muck around in arch in virtual box if i want to break something17:32
happynewyrvirtual box? i prefer openvz17:32
Kiteni've never used openvz much less heard of it17:32
Kiteni just use virtual box because thats what i've always used17:33
happynewyri've got a b*tch system running proxmox...17:33
Kitenoh and qemu17:33
lordjjHappy New Year's Ubuntu people17:33
Kitenhappy new years17:33
happynewyrlet me put it this way Kiten... openvz is not GUI based17:34
happynewyr:)17:34
compdocvirtualbox is best for running windows if you need to run it on your desktop, but I like qemu-kvm for servers17:34
happynewyrcompdoc: proxmox is a very good barebones installer if you want to run a virtualized environment17:35
Kitenhappynewyr, neither is qemu although gui's do exist for it17:35
compdochappynewyr, I'll take your word for it17:35
Akkan`can someone tell me how to remove logs on root17:36
happynewyralright peeps, gotta run.17:36
Akkan`?17:36
happynewyrta!17:36
Kitenhappynewyr, happy new years ;p17:36
Akkan`can someone tell me how to remove logs on root ?17:36
Kiten!repeat | Akkan`17:37
ubottuAkkan`: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/17:37
KoltMaestaHi! Approximately a week after I upgraded to 11.10 my wifi sometimes keeps connecting and nothing happens. The network is still ok, I just wont connect, and it takes forever. Most of the time it works great. What can cause this annoying issue?17:37
Kitenwhy do you need to remove logs17:37
Akkan`i just wanna remove17:37
Akkan`do you know the command or no ?17:37
Kitenwell there isn't any real command but if you want to they are in /etc/ somewhere knock your self out17:38
Kitenjust becareful deleting things in /etc/17:38
DrPenguinarent logs in /var/log and not in /etc?17:38
SeveasDrPenguin, they are17:38
Kitenyeah the normal system logs17:38
Kitenwifi the ones in /etc/ mostly deal with wifi related junk17:39
SeveasAkkan`, logs live in /var/log, they can be removed with 'sudo rm filename.here'. Don't remove any directories, just files.17:39
DrPenguinI never would of figured there would be logs in /etc.. good to know17:39
Akkan`Seveas ty17:39
SeveasDrPenguin, there are no logs in /etc17:39
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DrPenguinSeveas: Kiten just said some wifi ones live in etc17:39
SeveasDrPenguin, well, that's not true :)17:40
duryhi there channel :)17:40
Seveashi there dury17:40
duryHappy New Year :)17:40
KitenDrPenguin, yeah my bad you guys are on a different distro :P17:40
Kitenarch has logs in /etc/17:40
durySeveas: how do u doing there?17:40
DrPenguinKiten: @_@ WHA? arch puts logs in /etc? I will DEFINITELY need to look at that when I get my laptop back..17:41
Seveasdury, I'm stil in 2011, no new year yet for me :)17:41
KoltMaestaHi! Approximately a week after I upgraded to 11.10 my wifi sometimes keeps connecting and nothing happens. The network is still ok, I just wont connect, and it takes forever. Most of the time it works great. What can cause this annoying issue?17:41
durySeveas: where are you located, then?17:41
_ikke_Is it me, or is the Ubuntu softwarecentrum in 11.10 very slow?17:41
KitenDrPenguin, well my arch might be kinda screwy ;p17:41
SeveasKoltMaesta, look at /var/log/syslog, all changes to wifi state are logged there17:42
DrPenguinKiten: I think so..17:42
Seveasdury, europe17:42
durySeveas: me too17:42
Seveasthen it's still 2011 for you :)17:42
durySeveas: but where abouts?17:42
chrislspHello, anyone used before Remastersys or Reconstructor for creating your own LiveCD with preinstalled programs,settings etc ?17:42
Seveas!anyone | chrislsp17:43
ubottuchrislsp: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.17:43
durywhat's /var/log/syslog for, then?17:44
Seveasdury, system logs17:44
durySeveas: yeah17:44
windwhinnylog system logs17:44
chrislspDoes ANYBODY have so much little brain to understand that i need an opinion?17:44
KoltMaestaSeveas: There are a lot of "... [    1.748118] [Firmware Bug]: ACPI: BIOS _OSI(Linux) query ignored" lines17:44
durywhat they do Seveas17:44
DrPenguinchrislsp: and do you not have a big enough brain to understand that we dont give opinions based on what we echoed you from the bot?17:45
usuarioo17:45
SeveasKoltMaesta, that has nothing to do with wifi fortunately. You're looking for lines that contain NetworkManager17:45
usuarion17:45
usuario 17:45
taylorhey17:46
Seveashello taylor17:46
chrislspI just want an opinion based on your experience17:46
durywhat's system log do, then?17:46
taylorok so i got a question im sure somebody can answer pretty quick17:46
Seveasdury, look at the file and you'll see17:46
greedowhat is the default HTTP authentication for icecast?17:47
chrislspwhy are there so many "rules" and "must behave that way" to get a simple answer to a simple question?17:47
spoqyea17:48
spoqdont obey the rules17:48
spoqbreak `em !17:48
hiexpohi guys i am having a problem with postgres when i am setting it up and enter this command /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster -D /usr/local/pgsql/data >logfile 2>&1 & i get  -su: cannot create logfile: Permission denied what am i doing wrong17:48
taylorwhen i put my exe file into terminal and write wine behind it and everything and hit enter, 90 percent of the time it says it cannot find the exe file either know the pathway is correct. what can i do to fix this??17:48
spoqtried running in root?17:48
taylorno, whats that?17:49
DrPenguintaylor: is the path wrong taylor? where is the exe in respect to your current directory17:49
Seveastaylor, you need to put 'wine ' *before* the path to the exe file. Wine is the thing you run, the exe file is an argument17:49
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tayloryeah i know you get rid of the 's and put wine and a space17:49
taylorbefore17:49
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duryit shows those lines when you open the Terminal or no, Seveas?17:49
taylorthe file is exactly where it should be in the directory17:50
DrPenguintaylor: thats not what I asked17:50
Seveastaylor, and you also used correct capitalization? e.g. NOTEPAD.exe isn't the same as notepad.exe17:50
taylordidnt have to, i learned you can drag the .exe file into the terminal and it puts it there for you, i have installed quite a few programms this way, but half the time it cannot find the exe, which is why i am confused17:51
taylorim very new to ubuntu17:51
DrPenguintaylor: that really doesnt make sense.. dragging a file into terminal should complete its absolute path.. have you just tried to manually type in its absolute path?17:52
Seveasare you dragging it from the Desktop?17:52
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windwhinnyif the exe file is in the current directory, try to put "./" before the filename, like "./notepad.exe"17:52
taylorlet me try, and i have tried to drag it from the desk top and from the file were it is17:53
Seveaswhen it fails, make a screenshot that also shows the file that you dragged. That'll help is see what's going wrong.17:53
taylork17:54
gmachine_24I feel like a fool but I have an Ubuntu install and either the password file has been corrupted or I actually forgot the password. Is there anything I can do?17:59
cypher-neogmachine_24, Yeah, one sec17:59
Seveasyes, you can boot into recovery mode17:59
Seveasand reset the passwords17:59
crux00Soooo... I had a botched upgrade to 11.10, and I've mostly made it work. But now every package is listed twice in aptitude. Is there a fix for that?17:59
gmachine_24Seveas, I'm assuming I need no password to do that?18:00
cypher-neogmachine_24, Here's one method to reset your Ubuntu password.18:00
Seveasgmachine_24, correct, recover mode should let you do this without password18:00
Seveascrux00, how the hell did that happen? :)18:00
jiohdiwhat is the point of having a password if it is that easy to defeat?18:00
zer0rezmy google-foo is failing, any links or info on how to install 11.10 onto a machine w/ a 4GB SSD(old eeePC 900a)18:00
gmachine_24cypher-neo, I am listening18:01
Seveasjiohdi, this requires physical access to the machine. Physical access means you're screwed anyway18:01
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crux00Seavas: some video driver bug / something to do with hibernate, plus me starting the upgrade from a session that had resumed from hibernation ===> unfortunately timed kernel crash mid-upgrade.18:01
Seveasjiohdi, also, this doesn't decrypt encrypted homedirs. Those are gone for good18:01
Seveascrux00, can you run this for me and pastebin the output: dpkg -l | cat; dpkg --get-selections18:02
jiohdiSeveas, if you set them as encrypted right?18:02
Seveasjiohdi, correct18:02
gmachine_24thanks for your help. I'll research resetting passwords..... HNY everyone18:02
spaohgkj18:03
Seveasspao, try english :)18:03
MN--hey anyone know a channel to discuss computer components?18:03
cypher-neogmachine_24, #1 - Boot from a Live CD. #2 - Mount the computer hard drive. When the Nautilus window pops up, close it. #3 - Open Terminal. Type "gksudo nautilus" #4 - Go to the mounted drive and find the /etc/ directory. #5 - Scroll past all the directories until you get to the shadow text file. Create a .bak of this file, just in case. #6 - Edit the shadow file in gedit. #7 - Scroll down to the username in question and replace18:03
cypher-neothe encrypted password with "U6aMy0wojraho"18:03
crux00Seveas: here ya go! http://paste.ubuntu.com/789020/18:03
Seveascypher-neo, I've scripted that up in the past: https://raw.github.com/seveas/hacks/master/reset_passwords18:04
DrPenguinMN--: we arent a hub for you to find where to go.. but there should be a command your irc client can do to help you find it18:04
cypher-neoThat will completely reset the password... and he left18:04
cypher-neoSeveas, Grr! he says he's listening... so i start typing. And he leaves before I press Enter!18:04
Seveascrux00, ok, at least apt doesn't see them twice, must be an aptitude cache18:04
edbianMN--, #hardware18:05
edbianMN--, or you can just PM me18:05
Seveascrux00, try rm ~/.aptitude/cache18:05
crux00Seveas: Aha, and that's an easy rm away. Much easier to fix than the whole stupid /var/run business.18:05
Seveascrux00, ah, /run vs /var/run, that's a nice snafu :)18:06
edbianSeveas, aptitude  and apt-get cache are in /etc/apt/  ?18:06
taylorok how do i show you the pics18:06
Aliv3how update to 12.0418:06
MN--edbian thanks18:06
Seveastaylor, upload them to imagebin.com18:06
taylorok18:06
cypher-neoAliv3, Check out the topic in #ubuntu+118:06
Aliv3ty18:06
Seveasedbian, aptitude has its own cache in ~/.aptitude. The general apt cache is in /var/cache/apt and /var/lib/apt18:06
urlin2uAliv3, 12.04 is not released yet.18:06
Seveasoi LjL, your monkey quit18:07
edbianSeveas, ahh, yes18:07
crux00Seveas: since you're being A+++ helpful would ask questions again -- aptitude is having another issue as well, namely that it wants to remove pretty much everything (libc6 and all deps) to deal with some conflict or another. Is there an easy way to get to the bottom of that one?18:07
cypher-neocrux00, I prefer using Ubuntu Tweak for things like that, imho.18:08
Seveascrux00, try apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade. If they complain, pastebin output18:08
Seveascypher-neo, neh, his system is in a bit of a bodged state. Best to stick to low level tools :)18:08
yumbocrux00, when something wants libc6 removed you should be very careful (I actually got it removed once, couldnt execute any command anymore)18:08
cypher-neoSeveas, Ahh, in that case, never mind what I said crux0018:09
crux00"a bit" -- hah. ;} Well, it's much better now, so maybe it qualifies as "a bit".18:09
Seveasyeah, you don't really want to remove libc618:09
yumbocrux00, what does "sudo apt-get install -f" give?18:09
Seveascrux00, can you also try these, just so I know your system is at least sorta healthy: dpkg --configure -a ; apt-get -f install18:09
crux00Interestingly, aptitude still shows things twice; and one of the libc6 is marked "installed" and peachy; the *other* one it wants to nuke because of deps. Maybe it has another cache in /var somewhere?18:10
Seveascrux00, hmm, that does sound screwy18:11
cypher-neocrux00, Out of morbid curiousity, what are the deps on the nuke libc6? Are they the same as the clone libc6?18:11
crux00Seveas: dpkg --configure -a looks to be a noop (I'd done a lot of --reconfigure upon the first few boots)18:12
taylorcool site, alright the pictures are up18:12
crux00cypher-neo: Eyeballing it, they seem the same.18:12
cypher-neoWeird...18:13
Seveascrux00, /var/lib/aptitude/pkgstates18:13
crux00(also; apt-get -f install = 0 )18:13
riktkinghi i have issues with my SD card reader, it is not seeing an SD card18:13
Seveasand there's also /var/lib/dpkg/status, but that one seems ok18:13
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crux00Seveas: Maybe I should 'apt-get purge aptitude; apt-get install aptitude'...18:14
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cypher-neocrux00, Be careful if it tries to purge other programs along with aptitude as deps!18:14
Seveascrux00, sed -n -e 's/^Package: //p' /var/lib/aptitude/pkgstates  | sort | uniq -c | grep -v '^ \+1 '18:15
crux00<--- mv /var/lib/aptitude/pkgstates = things seem much happier.18:15
taylorjust let me know when you have a chance18:15
Seveasif that monster gives no output the file is ok18:15
Seveasah, you got rid of it already, fair enough :-018:15
riktkingmy laptop can see the reader, but no card in thereader18:15
yumbo'apt-get purge aptitude; apt-get install aptitude'...18:15
yumbothat sound like a not-so-good idea18:15
SeveasI wouldn't purge aptitude, no18:15
Seveastaylor, can you give us a link to the picture?18:16
crux00;} So that's two votes against "nuke it from orbit"18:16
tayloryes sir18:16
taylori put two, one before i pressed enter and one after18:16
crux00Okie dokie18:16
Seveasthen we need links to both :)18:16
cypher-neocrux00, I would cancel the nuke unless the enemy gets entrenched. ;}18:16
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yumbocrux00, I have synaptic installed, it has a feature to display broken packages18:17
yumbomaybe worth a try18:17
Seveasyumbo, that'll be useless if the problem is aptitude ;)18:17
taylorwont let me paste18:17
crux00<--- aptitude *might* be the sole issue.18:17
yumboSeveas, ah18:18
Guest55079on chrome where the clear history and cookies18:18
crux00Removed /var/lib/aptitude/pkgstatus .... First run: aptitude is happy. After an update and/or a restart of aptitude: Everything shows up twice, and it wants to delete the world again.18:18
Seveastaylor, alternatively just e-mail me the pictures: dennis@ubuntu.com18:18
crux00s/status/states18:18
yumboGuest55079, http://www.thepicky.com/images/2009/03/chrome-clearing-browsing-data.jpg18:18
Guest55079ty yumbo18:19
crux00Confirmed: it's updating that introduces every package a 2nd time and makes aptitude think there's conflicts everywhere.18:19
Seveascrux00, can you run this one: sed -n -e 's/^Package: //p' /var/lib/dpkg/status  | sort | uniq -c | grep -v '^ \+1 '18:19
cypher-neoSeveas, This is a dirty hack, but if removing /var/lib/aptitude/pkgstatus is a solution, we could mod his .bashrc file so it's done automatically every time he loads CLI.18:20
Seveasthat'll check for duplicates in /var/lib/pkg/status18:20
Seveascypher-neo, eww no, let's fix the actual problem instead18:20
crux00http://paste.ubuntu.com/789032/ <--- looks like lots of 'em18:20
taylorim havein issues with my email at the moment, it thinks im not me:(18:20
cypher-neoSeveas, Fixing the actual problem is definitely preferred! I'm just saying...18:20
Seveascrux00, ok, that's a problem18:20
cypher-neoSeveas, Also, I'm a bit giddy for running my first .bashrc hack.18:21
Seveashehe18:21
yumbocrux00, which ubuntu version?18:21
Seveascrux00, give me a few minutes, I know the solution to this, just need to dig a bit18:21
linux_noobhappynew year guys18:21
crux00yumbo: Nominally, 11.10. ;) But there was a nice hard crash halfway through installing.18:21
yumbocrux00, x86 or x64 ?18:22
linux_noobguys can anybody tell me is it possible to make a 3d model in ubuntu?18:22
yumbolinux_noob, check out the Blender project18:22
yumbolinux_noob, http://www.blender.org/18:22
crux00Yumbo: amd6418:22
taylorblender is beast18:22
yumbocrux00, http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/aptitude/aptitude_0.6.4-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb18:23
yumboyou can download that and install it using dpkg18:23
yumbomaybe it helps18:23
linux_noobtnx yumbo ur the best...18:23
crux00yumbo: It might, but it looks like the problem is deeper than aptitude18:24
Seveascrux00, ok, there are a few options. But first of all make a backup of /var/lib/dpkg/status18:25
yumbocrux00, it can't do much harm18:25
Seveasonce you've done that, run this: apt-get install moreutils18:25
taylorcant paste the link and cant send through email cuz my email is jacked up, they are right there on the site though18:25
Seveas(oh, and I'm going to assume you run all this as root :))18:25
Seveascrux00, when moreutils is installed (and only then), run this: dpkg --get-selections | sponge | dpkg --set-selections18:26
Seveasthen run that last sed command again18:26
phoenix_firebrdhappy newyear to all18:26
tayloryeah happy newyear18:26
crux00Seveas: sponge = neat tool to have. Wish I knew about it before!18:27
Seveasmoreutils is full of tools like that :)18:28
linux_noobguys is it possible to convert text in audio with high quality?18:29
crux00Seveas: command, executed. Unfortunately /var/lib/dpkg/status is still turning up dupes by your sed | sort | uniq | grep pipeline.18:29
Seveasrats18:29
Seveasok, now it gets hairy.18:29
linux_noobim trying to plug in audio to my game18:29
Seveasthere are backups of that file in /var/backups18:30
linux_noobguys is it possible to convert text in audio with high quality?18:30
linux_noob* pawan_pawar (~pawan_pa18:30
Seveasfind one that doesn't contain dupes, but *don't* move it into place yet18:30
Seveasfirst do: dpkg --get-selections > my_selections18:30
linux_noobguys is it possible to convert text in audio with high quality?18:30
Seveasthen move the backup into place18:30
DrPenguin!patience | linux_noob18:30
ubottulinux_noob: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/18:30
Seveasthen run dpkg --set-selections < my_selections18:30
Seveasand pray for the best18:30
linux_noobim sorry..18:31
linux_noobtnx18:31
Oerlinux_noob, try ubuntu-studio18:31
taylorlol there tried to help us all at the same time, gatta give em space18:31
Seveasshould that work, it's time for another run of apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade18:31
crux00Seveas: I'm spending a second or two reading the weird status file, first, & diffing the duped entries...18:31
linux_noobthanks18:32
Seveascrux00, sure, makes sense18:32
Seveaslinux_noob, you may want to look at festival18:32
crux00Seveas: aha!18:32
DashleShyHello!18:32
crux00There's one entry for amd64, and another for i386.18:33
cosmicHELP !18:33
cosmicE: The package super-boot-manager needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.18:33
DashleShyCan I ask an question?18:33
Seveasoh, you're doing the dual-arch trick. I did *not* expect that !18:33
SunTsu!ask | DashleShy18:33
ubottuDashleShy: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:33
BluesKajDashleShy, ask away18:33
SeveasDashleShy, of course18:33
xangua!details | cosmic18:33
ubottucosmic: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."18:33
crux00... If I am, it was unintentional. :}18:33
SunTsuDashleShy: btw. you just asked a question, so it looks like yu can18:33
crux00Though I do recall reading something about that in the 11.10 changelog.18:33
SunTsuyou18:34
Seveascosmic, that's not something provided by Ubuntu, so find the .deb file and dpkg -i that18:34
DashleShyI want to install, but not live CD, Ubuntu 11.04 onto a flash drive. I did remember doing so, but when I do it tells me I don't have 4.4GB of space...which I don't18:34
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Dolevthe flash is ntfs?18:35
DashleShyI can do it on a hard drive temporarily with more then enough space, but I get a message asking me to define the root filesystem.18:35
cosmicSeveas: how?18:35
Seveascosmic, however you installed it in the first place.18:35
DashleShyIt was originally NTFS, I do think, but it's fat32 at the moment.18:35
DashleShya 4GB and a 2GB, I want to live session the 2GB so I can install it onto the 4GB.18:36
crux00Seveas: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/831768 <-- this or something like it (there's a handful)18:36
ubottuUbuntu bug 831768 in aptitude (Ubuntu Precise) "aptitude cannot handle conflicts with multiarch enabled" [High,Triaged]18:36
pythonirc101I tried apt-get linux-headers-`uname -r` and it gives me "Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.0.0-14-server (x86_64). Any ideas on how to fix this?18:36
cosmicSeveas: Yes18:36
DashleShyBeing I want to install it, since I lose my changes after power-off/removal. I did it before but I can't quite remember how.18:37
Seveascrux00, ok, looks like I need to prod at multiarch a bit too, that's lacking in my knowledge :)18:37
Oercrux00, maybe that is the reason aptitude was removed from 11.10 ?18:38
crux00Seveas: Indeed... Looking at that bug, I might actually be just fine, albiet with a severely confused/unusable aptitude.18:38
crux00(And I'm not noticing any other instability, so ... fingers crossed)18:38
DashleShyBasically long story short, I want to perform a full Ubuntu 11.04 install to a 4GB flash drive.18:39
cypher-neocrux00, That's a little dramatic... especially considering I just installed aptitude 20 minutes ago.18:40
Seveascypher-neo, but you're probably not using a multi-arch system18:40
crux00cypher-neo: I dunno, it wants to remove libc. ;}18:40
cypher-neoDashleShy, Insert your flash drive and run "usb-creator-gtk" from the Terminal18:40
Oer!minimal | DashleShy18:40
ubottuDashleShy: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD18:40
DashleShyNot really on ubuntu right now, but I'll keep that in mind.18:40
DashleShyThat's it, it might have been the alternate CD I used.18:41
DashleShyKeep in mind I do not want to live session it, as if to perform like a normal hard drive installation.18:41
DashleShyAnyway I can do it with windows while I'm on here? Wubi doesn't really help.18:42
taylorcan somebody give me a quick hand, i dont mean to be a bother i just dont have very long is all18:42
taylorcan somebody give me a quick hand, i dont mean to be a bother i just dont have very long is all18:42
SudoFox@DashleShy PM.18:42
crux00I ought to stop procrastinating-my-real-work...18:42
cypher-neoDashleShy, It will perform much like a Live Cd if you do it using "usb-creator-gtk" but you can set it up so it also functions like a seperate desktop with filespace up to the limit of the USB drive (probably about 3.1Gb's after install.18:43
BluesKajtaylor, describe your problem pls18:43
crux00Seveas: thanks a huge heap of stuff for helping to troubleshoot. :)18:43
crux00& others, too.18:43
aritrawishing you happy new year :)18:43
DashleShySo it won't ask me to have at least 4.4GB of space?18:43
cypher-neoSeveas, Props to the master!18:43
Aliv3you know how say you install mythbuntu layer ontop of ubuntu you see mythbuntu splash and all that, how do i make ubuntu the main one again18:43
dr_willis!plymouth | Aliv318:43
ubottuAliv3: Plymouth manages the Ubuntu boot process (before the root filesystem is mounted) and also provides a graphical boot animation.  To change your Plymouth theme use « sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth && sudo update-initramfs -u »18:43
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taylor_hey can somebody give me a quick hand please18:46
DrPenguin!ask | taylor_18:46
BluesKajtaylor, describe your problem pls18:46
ubottutaylor_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:46
SudoFoxWhat the heck?18:47
SudoFoxWhat's with al of the joins and quits?18:47
DrPenguinits irc, you will get used to it18:47
dr_willisI dont see any SudoFox  :)18:47
dr_willismy irc client hides them18:47
SudoFoxLucky.18:47
taylor_i drag my exe file into the terminal and do the necessary steps to run the exe useing wine, and half the time it says it cannot find the exe file im trying to run, when i know the method works and the pathway is correct, i have screenshots if it would help18:47
dr_willis'any decent irc client should have that setting18:48
DrPenguintaylor_: we told you to post those screen shots.. quit wasting time and post them already18:48
SudoFox@taylor_ First, nix is case sensitive...18:48
taylor_i posted them already18:48
dr_willistaylor_:  Case Is imporntant in linux. and you could just use the Tab completion feature and not do that drag/drop.18:48
Seveasello?18:48
SudoFoxSecond, you have to mark it executable,18:48
SeveasWhat the hell just happened?18:48
bastidrazorSeveas: you've made it back from -unregged18:49
DrPenguintaylor_: post them again18:49
taylor_dont know what the tab complition is18:49
dr_willis!tab | taylor_18:49
ubottutaylor_: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.18:49
Seveasah, my bouncer got confused. Carry on :)18:49
DJones-/lastlog Seveas18:49
dr_willistaylor_:  do  wine /path/to/<tab> and it will auto fill in stuff18:49
fuhoHi I can't find any program when I hit Meta or click on Dash home, also when dash opens there are only 3 icons at the bottom (home, files, media) how can I get access to programs back?18:49
DJonesSeveas: Ping timeout18:49
taylor_ok18:49
bastidrazorSeveas: i was there too. i just made it back as well18:49
taylor_either way the path is going to be the same, and the issue is it sayin it cant find the exe when i know the path is correct18:50
fuhoI only recently reinstalled to 11.10 adn am still strugling with the new UI18:51
taylor_reposted screenshots18:51
DrPenguintaylor_: …. where? we kinda need a way to access them18:51
bastidrazortaylor_: you have to give the URL or we can't see them..18:51
dr_willistaylor_:  i would have to say the path is incorrect in some way or another. cd to the directory where the exe is at and do wine ./foo.exe to verify the path is not an issue18:52
fuhoAlso Ubuntu Softweare center wont load.18:52
taylor_http://imagebin.org/index.php18:52
taylor_its taylor in the top right corner18:53
taylor_have a before and after18:53
DrPenguintaylor_: dude, you covered up half the terminal line with your stupid window18:53
taylor_no i didnt "dude" it continues where you see it18:53
Seveashmm, imagebin doesn't load for me18:54
SudoFoxHey, does anyone know if the persistence layer gets installed when you install Ubuntu?18:54
overcluckertaylor_: I thought that dragndrop would do it for you, but try wrapping that in ' '18:54
SeveasSudoFox, persistence layer?18:54
DrPenguintaylor_: yeah, did you ever try manually typing in the path?18:54
taylor_ok i was told to delete those but ill give it a try18:54
dr_willisSudoFox:  if you do a normal install.. no.18:54
taylor_no18:54
akpkissue with installing php-pear18:54
DrPenguindo it then?18:55
taylor_i figured it would be the same so i didnt think to18:55
SolvedWhat would the command be to open a text box (like an error message) that had a personalized message in it?18:55
overcluckertaylor_: another optio nis to excape all those darned spaces like: '\ '18:55
DrPenguinSolved: there should be something cute thats included with X.. I think dialog is one?18:56
SeveasSolved, zenity18:56
SolvedSeveas: like, zenity hello18:56
Solved?18:56
fuhoOk I got another question: when creating partition for /boot a / (except for /home) how big do you make them? I made 5GB for boot but it seems like waste18:57
bastidrazortaylor_: you have to escape those spaces.18:57
Seveaszenity --error --text "Oops, I did it again"18:57
fuhoadn 50GB for / without /home18:57
SeveasSolved, for more info, try: zenity --help18:57
dr_willisfuho:  depends on what you do with /boot/  use of /boot is optional these days.18:57
taylor_which spaces18:57
DrPenguintaylor_: in the file name18:57
dr_willisfuho:  i got /boot several gb in size beause i keep a few ISO files in it that grub2 can boot. 1gb should be plenty for most people18:57
dr_willisSpaces in file names can be really... annoying. :)18:58
taylor_and tried typing in manually same thing happened, then wrapped in 's and it said invalid handle18:58
fuhodr_willis: I just wanted to make sure I will always be able to boot18:58
bastidrazortaylor_: 18\ wos\.. etc18:58
dr_willisfuho:  thats not a guarentee :) most people seem to manage to mess up the grub mbr. not files in /boot/18:58
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taylor_oh ok, let me see18:58
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fuhodr_willis: In case I went over the top with logs or something :)18:58
taylor_nope, still did not work, it just doenst make sense to me, im not sure what im doing19:00
SolvedSeveas: What option would you use if you wanted one that was very similar to the error message, except without the error symbol19:00
fuhoAnd 50GBs for / should be enough right? I will have an extra partition just for home19:00
SudoFox(repeats). Hey, does anyone know if the persistence layer gets installed when you install Ubuntu?19:00
overcluckertaylor_: type out the path to use here19:00
fuhoIs there a way to reinitialize Dash home? Mine doesnt show programs...19:01
taylorhome/brandon/.miro/movies/18woset219:01
bastidrazortaylor that isn't what i told you to do.19:01
DrPenguintaylor: thats not a correct path19:01
overcluckertaylor_: the full original path that dragndrop gave you19:02
SeveasSolved, --info19:02
DrPenguinit should be wine /home/brandom/.miro/movies/18\ wos\ et2/18\ Wheels\ of\ Steel\ Extreme\ Trucker\ 2_setup_.exe19:02
overcluckerWhat surprises me is that drag'n drop isn't wrapping it in single quotes19:03
DrPenguinoverclucker: that surprises me too.. there must be something wrong with his shell19:03
taylorother file got deleted so i am giveing you the path it gave me when i drag and drop the backup i made19:05
taylor_ '/home/brandon/.miro/Movies/18 Wheels of Steel Extreme Trucker 2_setup_/bin/win_x86/extremetrucker.exe'19:05
DrPenguintaylor: well you would ned to tell us that wouldnt you?19:06
SolvedSeveas: THanks a ton, workks perfect19:06
taylori just did, that just now happened19:06
taylorthats why it took me so long to get the path on here19:06
anvoEmpathy does not connect to Google Talk entering both my plain password or the new Application Specific Password!  What should I do...?19:06
akpkcan i register my username in Xchat ??19:06
SudoFoxI don't know, I just want to know if my persistence layer gets installed with Ubuntu if I do so,19:07
bastidrazor!register | akpk19:07
doritoDanIs there a Safari port or counterpart for Ubuntu?19:07
ubottuakpk: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode19:07
SudoFox/msg Nickserv help19:07
overcluckertaylor_: does wine '/home/brandon/.miro/Movies/18 Wheels of Steel Extreme Trucker 2_setup_/bin/win_x86/extremetrucker.exe' not work?19:07
SwamoyHappy New Year....19:07
doritoDanAnyone?19:08
DrPenguindoritoDan: I highly doubt it.. Safari is junk anyway19:08
doritoDanWhy is Safari junk19:08
DrPenguinits just slow, id put it slightly better than Firefox. go with chromium19:09
doritoDanIn my opinion, Safari renders webkit effects and behaviors better than most browsers.19:09
doritoDanIs there no Safari counterpart for Ubuntu at all?19:10
doritoDanAlso, why should I go with Chromium instead of Chrome?19:10
BluesKajDrPenguin, chromium is fine on small monitors , just don't try it on a large monitor from 10ft/3M away...the fonts on the tabs are too small to read for starters19:10
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akpkubottu: where to type all this ??19:11
ubottuakpk: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:11
DrPenguinBluesKaj: you can adjust that19:11
BluesKajchromium is chrome for linux19:11
DrPenguinBluesKaj: not that that even matters, that isnt related to this conversation19:11
OerdoritoDan, there is no native Safari for linux, so safari in wine is just sad19:11
rypervenchedoritoDan: Because Google tracks your data in Chrome, plus chromium is easier to install.19:11
bastidrazorakpk: in this window.. the /msg or /join tells freenode to interpret that as a command19:11
urlin2u!ot19:12
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!19:12
taylor_no this is what come up     {    err:mscoree:expect_no_runtimes Process exited with a Mono runtime loaded.19:12
doritoDanHow does Google track my data in Chrome?19:12
doritoDanAlso, is there no Safari counterpart for Chrome?19:12
overcluckerdoritoDan: try Konqueror, it uses Webkit19:12
BluesKajDrPenguin, how? ..it may be related , depending on his monitor ...an observation to keep in mind19:12
doritoDanOk.19:12
doritoDanThanks pal.19:12
bastidrazortaylor: that is a wine issue. #winehq can help with that.19:12
bastidrazortaylor: or have you looked at the appdb?19:12
bastidrazor!appdb | taylor_19:12
ubottutaylor_: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help19:12
DrPenguinBluesKaj: because hes asking if theres a safari counterpart for ubuntu. Hes not asking whats a good browser to use on a huge monitor from a distance19:12
tayloryeah i looked it up and its good19:13
BluesKajthere is no safari equivalent or linux clone doritoDan19:13
DrPenguintaylor: that looks like your missing some dependency (or it atleast cant find it)19:13
doritoDanok19:13
doritoDanthanks19:13
sstaanyone have a procmail recipe to pipe each message to a separate (uniquely named) file?19:13
taylorwhat do you mean19:14
DrPenguintaylor: but like they said, this isnt an ubuntu issue.. so now its ot19:14
SudoFoxChrome and Chromium work on ubuntu.19:14
SudoFoxOr linux.19:14
doritoDanI'll get both19:15
taylorok thank you so much for the help, i know i didnt make it easy for you, sorry19:15
doritoDanWhat are the most popular browsers on Ubuntu?19:15
SudoFoxThere are debian packages, I'm not sure about other pkg managers, though.19:15
doritoDanI'm guessing Firefox?19:15
SudoFox@doritoDan Internet Exploder.19:15
BluesKajchromium is linux chrome , altho chrome does run on linux19:15
BluesKajSudoFox, @ isn't required on irc19:15
fuhoChromium is the original opensource projects19:16
geoffmccChrome does run on Linux, but i wasn't happy with performance. chromium works way better, imo19:16
SudoFox@ catches attention better, though.19:16
fuhoChrome is Google branded version which is dowstream a bit19:16
doritoDanDoesn't Chrome and Chromium differ in functionality?19:16
fuhochromium has the newest features19:16
SudoFoxIf you have a mainly text-based client.19:16
doritoDandon't*19:16
fuhodoritoDan: You can install chromium daily which has the latest features19:17
BluesKajSudoFox, but others don'tso if they have their nickname set to highlight in their client , that's all that's required19:17
fuhodoritoDan: like for example multiple gmail profiles19:17
doritoDanBut isn't Chrome closed-source and developed by Google19:17
doritoDanwhile Chromium isn't?19:17
geoffmccdoritoDan: correct19:18
SudoFoxYeah, but I find it's convienent for the other. Besides, why check what client their using everytime you talk to someone19:18
doritoDanSo who's developing Chromium?19:18
machrideranyone know what 'groot' should point to in menu.lst?  boot partition or the linux root partition?19:18
SudoFoxPeople.19:18
BluesKajdoritoDan,  there isn't alot of diff , if you like chrome better then use it19:18
derp|partydoritoDan, and a group of people at google work on Chrome19:18
machriderthere's absolutely no documentaiton on the menu.lst magic used by update-grub...19:18
doritoDanWhat group is developing Chromium?19:18
doritoDanWhat's their name?19:18
doritoDanDo they have anything to do with Google?19:19
DrPenguinthis is seriously getting off topic..19:19
BluesKajdoritoDan, yes19:19
xanguadoritoDan: a little offtopic don't you¿ there is a chromium proyect web19:19
SudoFox Eh, I still want an answer to my question about the persistence layer and the ubuntu install...19:19
fuhoDoes anyone know how to run the boot flash disk utility from terminal?19:19
SudoFoxsearch chromiumtrunk and you'll find it right away.19:19
overcluckerdoritoDan: http://www.chromium.org/19:20
derp|partydoritoDan, there are two teams at Google that work on Chromium19:20
doritoDanok19:20
derp|partyone works on the CHromium browser and the other brands it as Chrome.19:20
doritoDanthanks for all the info pals19:20
doritoDanaight i understand19:20
derp|partyIn wich i am involved in its dev19:20
doritoDanwhy do they bother releasing chromium19:20
fuhoIt might be called something else, maybe boot disk setup. I just downloaded a iso and would like to "burn" it to a flash drive.19:20
windwhinnychromium is open source19:21
derp|partydoritoDan, advanced features minus google branding and release of confidential data.19:21
doritoDanaight19:21
SudoFox--------------------Isn't there a Chrome/ium chatroom on freenode?-------------------------19:21
DJonesfuho: Startup disk creator in 11.1019:21
xangua!alis | SudoFox19:21
ubottuSudoFox: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu*19:21
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derp|partySudoFox, yes19:21
derp|party#chromium19:22
SudoFox-----------yep, it's #chromium . -------------19:22
Fredy_1190HAPPY NEW YEAR!e19:22
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geoffmccfuho: check out http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-and-unmout-iso-images-without-burning-them.html19:22
SudoFoxHappy new year to you, too.19:22
Fredy_1190HAPPY NEW YEAR!vgkaeqlca icqbsxwot rhxquvof vvwdaoqh fvscrq sunjo ttqhyndo19:22
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xangua!ot | Fredy_1190 Guest_42919:22
ubottuFredy_1190 Guest_429: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!19:22
Anom01yhi I am trying to add a printer via cups (localhost:631) but the page is blank19:22
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Resistance!ops | Fredy_1190 Guest_429 Guest90700719:22
ubottuFredy_1190 Guest_429 Guest907007: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, pangolin, nhandler or Jordan_U!19:22
Guest_429HAPPY NEW YEAR!kucyd mane enk19:22
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Resistancexangua:  i already called them, and am sitting in -ops19:23
Fredy_1190HAPPY NEW YEAR!svr pvaxwzsyr eoxwymphv avmonmuxb dbmpkdbw yjgbqy drx vpmgtm mop19:23
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SudoFoxOh, for crying out loud.19:23
Guest907007HAPPY NEW YEAR!sdxwfimjf rx wyeiaf kwtl nd dvyixy fiasrff mfsyglrqp19:23
Seveas!ops19:23
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, pangolin, nhandler or Jordan_U!19:23
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Seveastime for some +rR action19:23
Anom01yshit its busy here19:23
Guest907007HAPPY NEW YEAR!mnrro eenumtdhxj agjlnw efqxzkyqs d irjkaonip bw un19:24
SeveasAnom01y, neh, just spambots19:24
SudoFoxYou can say that again.19:24
Seveasonce the ops wake up it's better19:24
Fredy_1190HAPPY NEW YEAR!ibjvzbqric hgwuvzzs eks prmxpp oclvy jvbpywqoqa19:24
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S1oXhttp://newyears.earthcam.com/ts/19:24
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SeveasJordan_U, try /mode +rR19:25
bastidrazorJordan_U: to the rescue!! :)19:25
ResistanceJordan_U:  i'd recommend staying opped and setting a +r or something19:25
Seveastoo many.19:25
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Resistanceyou missed them19:25
Resistance:P19:25
Pit_108HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!rujwiqr19:25
Anom01yhow come cups printer config requires username + password to add printer, but ubuntu's printer setup doesn't ?????19:25
BluesKajsomeone woke the trolls ... unfortunately they don't speak any known language :)19:25
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Anom01yI am trying to add a printer via localhost:631 but the "add printer" page is blank19:25
SeveasJordan_U, 'ello? Did you give up?19:25
SudoFoxI won't have one, if you KEEP SHOUTING THAT LIKE THIS!19:25
Fredy_1190HAPPY NEW YEAR!r19:25
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SudoFoxWell?19:26
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babaluhello, how to unzip two files file.zip.001 and file.zip.002 on ubuntu please?19:26
SudoFox99-195-228-199.dyn.centurytel.net19:26
Fredy_1190HAPPY NEW YEAR!qkpdtffnkl uaila p ymhhwjwe gmbi dgynqzqway bboxp ewo ffb19:26
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DrPenguinwel this is a big sack of fail..19:26
Pit_108HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!ytlblbs19:26
DrPenguinbabalu: whats with the # extension on those files?19:26
Fredy_1190HAPPY NEW YEAR!eh forzgoxsj shcdokf19:26
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SudoFox@Jordan_U block their goddang hostname! 99-195-228-199.dyn.centurytel.net19:26
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geoffmccwhile waiting on ops, dont forget can always /ignore nickname19:27
BluesKajbabalu, install unp19:27
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sofia_0313HAPPY NEW YEAR!dcxuycuyw aeds wf vwjmzdn rkytpna snxtvgsri zot dkdevaebzg gpkm19:27
babaluDrPenguin: it's a multiarchive19:27
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SudoFoxHallelujah!19:27
Bayer_8835HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!wqv19:27
Pit_108HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!zjkwis bopjtkxq vjim mebtflk19:27
fuhoDJones: Thanks. I have to run it from terminal, which is usb-creator-gtk (just in case someone serches the logs for burning iso to usb)19:27
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sofia_0313HAPPY NEW YEAR!gvx gizhgziqp ylviq wwyabosudi p19:27
Oer!ops19:27
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Seveas!ops19:27
Pit_108HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!mgotxpgg19:27
SudoFoxyay!19:27
Fredy_1190HAPPY NEW YEAR!crkhyspvx jpalykdyec efygpbcz ktnyltf f iclsbvijsh qtqw19:27
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geoffmccfuho: did you not see my link or was that not what you were looking for19:27
Seveassigh19:28
Pit_108HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!wapzgvio fzn ljvz o opds zydaae mwilolvgpk tpknw nvmqil19:28
Seveasok, giving up for today19:28
SudoFox/ignore doesn't work here, apparently.19:28
Fredy_1190HAPPY NEW YEAR!z a rfr hm stoxv gj k eochp19:28
Seveasenjoy new years, try to find decent ops next year19:28
Bayer_8835HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!n19:28
Bayer_8835HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!ykkzvznuh ztlq jyuedoscsj mfgmy slrqiflb yyugop hcyiwnjz ssssnwvu vzhrnr19:28
AngelAndDevilHAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!f dv bnrkpq afvzqhda19:28
SudoFoxShi...!~19:28
Pit_108HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!zavcdf wlwlticelh cxg ta xxuquah o ys th ur sgdgwlhh19:28
geoffmccSudoFox: may be different on your irc client19:28
babaluBluesKaj: and then?19:28
Bayer_8835HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!q gshxzhe19:28
Bayer_8835HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!suywcqbzct bza aannbwouqt nkmyggq p ko19:28
ak_pki can not install phpunit19:28
Pit_108HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!at19:28
ak_pksome error with my phpunit installation19:28
SudoFoxFUUUUUUU....19:28
Pit_108HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!oov otpa ylq rdqohuc ecmce qdykb csumyzgt wos jjmtt iszxj19:29
SudoFoxHAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR! blah blah blah, I'm a troll who's driving everyone mad!19:29
windwhinnywhat's going on?19:29
BluesKajunp 'the path to filename' in the terminal babalu19:29
SudoFoxTrolls.19:29
Squid_TamerOh dear19:29
Resistancehow much you want to bet those were the spammers and whoever was spamming terminated the connections :P19:30
babaluBluesKaj: $ unp map.zip.001Archive:  map.zip.001  End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not  a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the  latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on  the last disk(s) of this archive.19:30
fuhogeoffmcc: I missed that link, it is not what I was looking ofr siunce I need to create bootable ISO for Linux Mint, but now that I looked at your link it will be usefull in th e future too, so thatnks a lot.19:30
bastidrazorhmm.. why am i still getting ubuntu-unregged chat..19:30
Squid_TamerThank you Jordan_U !19:31
geoffmccfuho: ah, i didnt catch you were trying to create a bootable drive19:31
doritoDanHow is Ubuntu technically different from Debian?19:31
doritoDanWhat exactly has changed with Ubuntu?19:31
ohadioshi guys19:31
xangua!ot | doritoDan19:31
ubottudoritoDan: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!19:31
DrPenguindoritoDan: well.. for one.. Ubuntu uses much newer packages than Debian uses19:31
DrPenguinxangua: I wouldnt consider that ot..19:31
BluesKajbabalu, open a terminal in the dir the file is located the19:31
BluesKajthen19:31
babaluBluesKaj: that's what i did19:32
doritoDanI'll ask there then.19:32
dg_Hi all19:32
fuhoone last try: Does anone know how to reinitialize Dash. (Make it show installed programs)19:32
dg_How can I know the current version of ubuntu I'm using ?19:32
ohadiosNeed some help - reinstalled ubuntu for the first time in a couple of years. I have the machine connected to my big screen TV via HDMI but I get horrible screen flickering...19:32
DrPenguinfuho: what does Dash have to do with showing installed packages?19:32
xanguadg_: lsb_release -a19:32
fuhoDrPenguin: Dash home19:32
dg_xanga> thanks19:33
xanguafuho: you can try to reset unity to see if that works19:33
BluesKajbabalu, the file is incomplete or corrupted19:33
DrPenguinfuho: thats different than dash.. literal dash is the Debian Almquist SHell19:33
ak_pkubottu:how can i install php-pear in my ubuntu 11.1019:33
ubottuak_pk: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:33
DJonesfuho: Amistake I've made in the past, double check that you're on the right tab in dash, I've made the mistake of being on the wrong tab & not had programs come up19:33
ak_pk:-P19:33
fuhoDrPenguin: Sorry, didn't realize when tryint to abbreviate.19:33
geoffmccak_pk: sudo apt-get install php-pear19:34
babaluBluesKaj: ok i'll try to redownload it19:34
BluesKajohadios, check out medibuntu19:34
BluesKaj!medibuntu19:34
ubottumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org19:34
ohadiosBluesKaj - since it seems more like a driver issue I figured i'd experience the same issue there19:34
fuhoDJones: What do you mean by tab?19:35
ak_pkgeoffmcc:its ok,but wen i'm trying to install phpunit it shows an error that pear is not installed.19:35
BluesKajohadios, also what graphics card ? You may need to install a more suitable driver19:35
ohadiosIts an integrated NVIDIA card19:35
gotsanityis it possible to shrink a raid-0 array to make room for a second partition?19:35
ohadioslemme find the exact model19:35
dg_bye all19:35
DJonesfuho: At the bottom,there is a "home" iconfollowed by 3 others, just double check you're on the "home" one19:35
ak_pkarun@AKPK:~$  sudo apt-get install php-pear19:35
ak_pk[sudo] password for arun:19:35
ak_pkReading package lists... Done19:35
ak_pkBuilding dependency tree19:35
ak_pkReading state information... Done19:35
FloodBot1ak_pk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:35
ak_pkphp-pear is already the newest version.19:35
ak_pk0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.19:35
BluesKajohadios, open a terminal , lspci | grep VGA19:35
ZopiacI can't get X11 forwarding to work on this remote server... I edited sshd_config to allow it and restarted sshd, then used 'ssh ip.of.ser.ver -X' but am still getting "Thunar: Cannot open display:"19:36
fuhoDJones: Do you mean one of those icons at the bottom of the window that opens when you click on Dash home opr hit meta? How many icons do you have there, me 3.19:36
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DJonesfuho: On Dash home, I have 4 icons, Home, Applications, Files & Folders and Music19:37
fuhoI only have Home, Files&Folders, Music visible. Programs disappeared, also Software Center won't load19:37
ohadiosBluesKaj I have an NVIDIA 820019:37
BluesKajohadios, admin> additional drivers , choose the "recommended driver" and install it , and a reboot will be required afterwards.19:38
ohadiosBlusKaj - I already did that...19:38
BluesKajok , then the codecs may be to blame ohadios , check the medibuntu site for those , and make sure you have ffmpeg installed as well19:39
geoffmccak_pk: not familiar with what your doing, but try installing pear first and then try19:39
ohadiosBluesKaj its not codec - I get flickering throughout the entire system... not just playing videos19:39
ohadiosBluesKaj - When googling I found an old reference on a method for solving this, but it refers to editing the XORG.CONF... which apparently is not being used anymore since the last time I was running Ubuntu :/19:40
DrPenguinohadios: its just optional but you can still use it19:41
geoffmccohadios: what is your display adapter19:41
ak_pkgeofmcc:ya,let me try.thank u.19:41
BluesKajohadios, open a terminal , sudo nvidia-xconfig19:41
DrPenguinohadios: the way X works, it will look for xorg.conf in /etc/X11, if it doesnt find it it will fall back to /etc/X11/xorg.d/*19:42
DrPenguin(didnt mean to hit enter.. darn keyboard) and then for the rest.. X just probes your system and does the best it can19:42
ohadiosThanks. I will try all this in a sec - I have just tried to install the "post-updates" driver and am restarting.19:42
geoffmccohadios: if its a newer Nvidia card, maybe try the latest driver19:43
ohadiosI'm using NVIDIA 820019:43
BluesKajohadios, the nvidia-xconfig command creates an xorgconf file19:43
geoffmccohadios: may want to look into ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates19:43
ohadiosBluesKaj - thanks I will try that and then see if I can make the edit referenced on the fix-method i googled19:44
ohadiosgeoffmcc - can you provide a bit more details?19:44
ohadiosuh oh19:45
geoffmccohadios: sorry.. yea. sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates  and then sudo apt-get update  and finally sudo apt-get install nvidia-current19:45
ohadiosoh-uh... now linux not loading... getting hung on boot.19:45
BluesKajgeoffmcc, he already installed the rec'd driver19:45
geoffmccBluesKaj: no ppa has a later version.19:46
DrPenguinwhy not just grab the de facto latest from nvidia.com?19:46
ohadiosso now after I installed the "post-updates" driver... ubuntu is not loading... any ideas?19:47
DrPenguinohadios: try booting in single user mode19:47
* BluesKaj wonders about nomodeset again19:48
ohadiosDrPenguin - not sure what that is... but when I press ctrl-alt-f1 I get into the terminal19:49
ohadiosDrPenguin - is there anything I can do from here to update or at least revert the driver?19:49
DrPenguinohadios: ok thats good! so ubuntu does boot but X isnt.. pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log19:49
BluesKajohadios, what's post update driver name ?19:49
ohadiosDrPenguin - how would I do pastebin from terminal?19:50
ohadiosBluesKaj - not sure, how do i check?19:50
DrPenguinohadios: theres some command for pastebinning.. anyone know it?19:50
geoffmccohadios: if you apt-get install nvidia-current it will activate latest in repo.19:50
DrPenguinBluesKaj: its probably the post-install script19:50
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geoffmccohadios: but again, there is a newer driver in ppa i referenced to you19:50
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ohadiosgeoffmcc - i'll try adding the ppa and then updating19:50
BluesKajohadios, sudo apt-cache policy nvidia-current19:51
cipherboyohadios: DrPenguin  pastebinit is the command you are looking for.19:51
ZopiacI can't get X11 forwarding to work on this remote server... I edited sshd_config to allow it and restarted sshd, then used 'ssh ip.of.ser.ver -X' but am still getting "Thunar: Cannot open display:"19:51
DrPenguincipherboy: right on! thanks19:51
BluesKajohadios, you'll see something like Installed: 280.13-0ubuntu619:52
ohadiosinstalling the latest driver from the ppa...19:52
TeratogenI have ubuntu installed on a Compaq Presario V2000... when it was installing it said it did detect a wireless device19:52
geoffmccohadios: not sure what the version is right now, but back in Nov it was 285.05-0919:53
ohadiosBluesKaj I'm now downloading 280.13.... too bad I didnt see that command before downllading19:53
ohadiosoh no19:53
DrPenguingeoffmcc: isnt the latest version like 296 right now?19:53
ohadiosBlueskaj - downloading 290.1019:53
geoffmccDrPenguin: yes, i believe your right19:53
DrPenguingeoffmcc: i think its more like 297.. I have a 297 driver on my elitebook19:54
ohadiosSo how would I get 297? from the NVIDIA site?19:54
BluesKajohadios,  that's the latest driver but it's a gamble , not default19:54
DrPenguinohadios: thats what I recommend19:54
ohadiosI'll take a gamble since the default was not working :)19:54
Teratogenbut I can't seem to get wireless working =/19:55
ohadiosI just rebooted after installing 29019:55
ohadiosbut still black screen on boot19:55
geoffmccTeratogen: what wifi card do you have?19:55
urlin2uohadios, you can get in with nomodeset in the kernel line of grub probably19:56
Teratogengeoffmcc, whatever comes with the Compaq Presario V200019:56
TeratogenI assume it is on the motherboard19:56
Teratogensince it is a notebook computer19:56
ohadiosurlin2u - thanks, but I have no clue what that means :)19:56
urlin2u!nomodeset | ohadios19:56
ubottuohadios: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter19:56
geoffmccTeratogen: check out your specs and let us know what it is.. then can get some help19:56
linxehZopiac: iirc it is something to do with xauth, you might need to install an xauth proxy or something.19:57
ohadiosthanks urlin2u will check that out right now and report back in a min19:57
TeratogenWIRELESS: Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG WLAN19:57
Zopiaclinxeh: hmm, don't remember doing that on this box, but it works fine... I'll look into it19:57
BluesKajohadios, sudo nano /etc/default/grub , in the kernel line type in nomodeset after quiet splash , within the quotes , then ctl+o , enter, then ctl +x to save and exit the file19:58
Teratogengeoffmcc, when ubuntu was installing19:58
Teratogenit said it did detect a wireless something or other19:58
TeratogenI should have taken a photograph of that screen! =)19:58
linxehZopiac: I know this is old, but I'm sure I had to do it on my 10.04LTS VMs - http://www.miscdebris.net/blog/2007/05/24/x11-forwarding-with-openssh-on-bare-ubuntu-server-edition/19:58
geoffmccTeratogen: is this an acer?19:59
Teratogenit is a Compaq19:59
TeratogenI have ubuntu installed on a Compaq Presario V2000... when it was installing it said it did detect a wireless device20:00
TeratogenCompaq Presario V200020:00
Zopiaclinxeh: Aha, installing xorg-xauth made it work fine, thanks :D20:00
Teratogenbtw, interesting window manager20:00
TeratogenI've never seen before20:00
geoffmccTeratogen: ok, thats right you said that. I have not used the card. i have broadcom experience. Have you gone to Additional Drivers and see if it just needs activated?20:01
mccWhat's a good diff pretty-printer in Ubuntu20:01
ohadiosguys, I added the nomodeset, but still black screen20:01
DrPenguinohadios: can you do what I asked please? pastebin your Xorg.0.log20:01
BluesKajDrPenguin, he's at the tty20:02
DrPenguinBluesKaj: hey can still pastebin it20:02
DrPenguintheres text based browsers.. the pastebinit command.. copy it off to another pc.. etc etc20:02
BluesKajright , I forgot pastebinit20:02
SunTsupastebinit -i logifile20:03
ohadiosinstalling pastebinit20:03
SunTsuer s/logi/log/ - but I'm sure you could guess that already ;)20:03
SudoFoxugh!!!!20:04
ohadiosDrPenguin http://paste.ubuntu.com/789111/20:04
SudoFoxCan. I. Install. My. Persistence. Layer with ubuntu?20:04
SudoFoxSo it becomes a full install?20:05
Teratogengeoffmcc, how do I do that?20:05
tMHhappy new year 2012!!!!!!20:05
Teratogenhappy new year!20:05
tMHSun Jan  1 00:05:04 MSK 201220:05
TeratogenMSK?20:05
urlin2uSudoFox, a full install will persist20:05
tMHMoscow, Russia:)20:05
TeratogenMOTHER RUSSIA!20:05
pangolin!ot20:05
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!20:05
SudoFoxI know, I have a persistence layer on live usb.20:05
SudoFoxI want to keep it when I install.20:06
urlin2uSudoFox, they are different20:06
Teratogengeoffmcc, how do I do that?20:06
SudoFoxI know20:06
SudoFoxoverlayfs, etc.20:06
urlin2uSudoFox, you can't keep it20:06
DrPenguinohadios: hmm.. something is going on towards the end.. do sudo nvidia-xconfig and then do sudo service gdm restart20:06
SudoFoxAh well.20:06
geoffmccTeratogen: if your in 11.10 just go to dash and type driver. It should come up.. open additional drivers and see if you see wifi card listed, if do select it and press activate20:07
SudoFoxOk, then how do I export a list of all my installed apps? Can't find it in synaptic.20:07
SunTsuSudoFox: but you might be able copy over some of your data when bootin up your pen drive and mounting your fresh install, no?20:07
auronandaceDrPenguin: if he is using 11.10 then it would be lightdm rather than gdm20:07
Teratogendash?20:08
ohadiosDrPenguin - i was actually just doing that... got nvidia logo flashing on the screen a couple times, then black screen...20:08
DrPenguinauronandace: good call, I stopped using ubuntu after 11.04, never got accustomed to 11.1020:08
geoffmccTeratogen: what version of Ubuntu?20:08
DJones!cloning | SudoFox20:08
ubottuSudoFox: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate20:08
DrPenguinohadios: can you get me the new Xorg.0.log then? also your xorg.conf20:08
urlin2uSudoFox, this will give you a installed list  dpkg --get-selections > installed-software20:09
SudoFox@ SunTsu Oh? how so? Just copy paste or backup and restore...oh, hey, hrmm.20:09
SudoFoxThanks, both of you,20:09
Teratogengeoffmcc the very latest20:09
SudoFoxEr, all of you.20:09
auronandaceTeratogen: 11.10 or 12.04?20:10
geoffmccTeratogen: dash is the first thing on the launch bar.20:10
geoffmccTeratogen: the one above your home folder20:10
ohadiosDrPenguin http://paste.ubuntu.com/78911720:10
ohadiosDrPenguin http://paste.ubuntu.com/78911820:10
SudoFoxYay, thanks.20:10
SunTsuSudoFox: just boot up your usb pen drive, mount your newly created $HOME and copy over your current $HOME20:10
DrPenguinohadios: what is that second post? I need your /etc/X11/xorg.conf20:11
SudoFoxOh, right,20:11
SudoFoxThanks.20:11
ohadiosthe first one is the xorg20:11
ohadiosthe 78911720:11
Teratogenok20:11
DrPenguinohadios: um.. no its not20:12
Teratogenhow do I even get to a shell prompt?20:12
* Teratogen is more used to Slackware/KDE20:12
hiexpowow was just looking at distrowatch and mint took a strong lead20:12
geoffmccTeratogen: again using dash, just click it and type out term. terminal will show up20:12
ohadiosDrPenguin http://paste.ubuntu.com/78912120:12
ohadiosbut its the same20:12
ohadiosi ran it again20:12
ResistanceTeratogen:  open the terminal.  alt+f2, type in "gnome-terminal"20:12
geoffmccTeratogen: or you can alt+f2 and then gnome-terminal20:12
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Teratogenis this actually gnome?20:13
Rocking-Wany tips on setting up a gamepad on 10.10?20:13
ResistanceTeratogen:  if you are using just Ubuntu, its GNOME3 + Unity20:13
ResistanceTeratogen:  you can get just a GNOME interface, if you want20:13
Resistance!notunity | Teratogen20:13
ubottuTeratogen: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic20:13
geoffmccTeratogen: its gnome using a unity shell20:13
DrPenguinohadios: ok that was wierd.. I clicked the 117 link but it gave me 118.. this is weird.. theres no obvious signs of issues in here but X is dying in the  end.. can you do this? in your xorg.conf, replace "nvidia" with "vesa"  for Driver undert he Device section, and delete VendorName20:13
SudoFoxwhat's with all the !keyword things?20:13
DrPenguinSudoFox: those are commands the bot wil understand20:14
Teratogenok, no additional drivers found20:14
SudoFox!cloning20:14
ubottuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate20:14
doritoDanI have a .deb file I'm trying to install, but I'm getting errors from within the software center20:14
doritoDanAny idea why?20:14
SudoFoxYay.20:14
TeratogenI guess I could hook up an ethernet cable20:14
doritoDanLike, when I open the file, it opens the software center and just tells me an error has occured20:14
doritoDanwhat gives?20:14
Teratogenbut I would have to set up a static ip address20:14
DrPenguindoritoDan: whats the output of sudo dpkg -i whateverthedebfileis20:14
hiexpodoritoDan, what arethe errors20:14
SudoFoxubuntu 3 software center sucks. At least here.20:14
geoffmccTeratogen: the card is supported. like i said, i have no exp w/ card. if no one else can answer right now i would suggest forums or askubuntu. or jsut check back here later.20:15
SudoFoxI like the old gnome better.20:15
SudoFoxAh well.20:15
SudoFoxBye20:15
Teratogengeoffmcc, ok thanks20:15
ThinkT510SudoFox: try xfce20:15
eggman2001does anyone know what settings to use if i want to set the local host explicitly as a proxy when making an http request? I'm thinking proxy = 127.0.0.1:8080, username = '', password = ''. However, that doesn't seem to be working20:15
ohadiosDrPenguin - did that, now what, reboot or just gdm restart?20:15
Teratogenlike I said, the "card" was detected during install20:15
Teratogenapparently there is no driver for it20:15
DrPenguinohadios: restart gdm20:15
ResistanceSudoFox:  so use synaptic for software management / package management20:15
Resistanceoh he left20:15
Resistance:P20:15
hiexpodoritoDan, dependicy's ?20:15
BluesKajdoritoDan, open a terminal , cd to file dir , dpkg -i filename20:16
ohadiosDrPenguin - still black screen :(20:16
doritoDanDrPenguin: is that an I or an L20:16
doritoDanin the switch20:16
DrPenguindoritoDan: -i20:16
Resistancehiexpo:  dependencies? :P20:16
DrPenguinohadios: thats not right.. give me your new xorg log20:16
doritoDanDrPenguin: So not an L?20:16
hiexpooh well20:16
doritoDanI can't see.20:16
DrPenguindoritoDan: … its an i, like eye?20:16
doritoDanOk, thanks.20:16
BluesKajdoritoDan, copy andf paste20:16
ohadiosDrPenguin http://paste.ubuntu.com/78912620:17
doritoDanDrPenguin: It tells me the flag is not valid20:17
doritoDanBluesKaj: I don't know how to copypaste into terminal20:17
doritoDanit just pastes weird characters when i do20:17
DrPenguindoritoDan: thats not right.. -i is a valid flag for dpkg20:17
doritoDanhiexpo: dependencies? what do you mean?20:17
doritoDanDrPenguin I as in I AM20:18
doritoDanYes?20:18
ohadiosDrPenguin does it have something to do with the fact that it says "no screens found"?20:18
DrPenguinohadios: thats.. odd.. vesa should work20:18
DrPenguindoritoDan: NO! its lowercase i20:18
doritoDanyes20:18
doritoDanas in "i am" then20:18
DrPenguinohadios: oh yeah your right there, for some reaosn it doesnt like your Screen section20:18
hiexpodoritoDan, double click the deb file and you will be able so see the errors    most likely it is dependencies needs other packages or you have synaptic open20:18
doritoDananyway DrPenguin  first it told me i needed admin rights20:18
doritoDanso i put su20:18
doritoDaner sudo20:18
DrPenguindoritoDan: I did tell you sudo..20:19
doritoDanand then it told me that -i was an invalid flag20:19
doritoDanok20:19
doritoDanwell20:19
FloodBot1doritoDan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:19
doritoDanthats what i did20:19
DrPenguindoritoDan: that is definitely not an invalid flag20:19
ohadiosDrPenguin - so what do i do?20:19
hiexpodoritoDan, just double click the deb file20:19
BluesKajdoritoDan, there's aspce before -i20:19
BluesKajspace20:19
doritoDansu dpkg -i google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb20:20
DrPenguinohadios: hmm.. remove the nvidia package you installed, delete the xorg conf, and see if it will start X on its own20:20
doritoDanthat's the exact line DrPenguin20:20
doritoDanoh20:20
DrPenguindoritoDan SUDO not su20:20
doritoDansudo*20:20
doritoDanyes20:20
doritoDanwhat's SU then20:20
DrPenguinswitch user20:20
doritoDanoh20:20
doritoDanlol20:20
FloodBot1doritoDan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:20
doritoDanthat explains it20:20
sattu94Happy New Year!20:21
fuuuNO20:21
* BluesKaj always thought su was root user20:21
sattu94it's 0000 here !20:21
doritoDananyway DrPenguin20:21
DrPenguinBluesKaj: I believe su defaults to root if you dont give it a user name20:21
doritoDansince it worked, does that mean its installed now?20:21
DrPenguindoritoDan: how should I know? you have to look at the output of dpkg20:21
fuuuubuntu users r noobs lol20:21
fuuuthat why20:22
doritoDanDrPenguin it just started unzipping it or whatever20:22
ohadiosDrPenguin - removed the nvidia-current, then deleted xorg, then gdm restart gave me a flashing nvidia logo again, then black screen20:22
ohadioswant the log again?20:22
cipherboysattu94: use #ubunto-offtopic, but it can't be. 22 minutes into the hour, no matter what timezone.20:22
sattu94cipherboy: true, I am a bit off.. :P20:22
DrPenguinohadios: you may still have some nvidia package in there.. can you pastebin your dpkg -l output?20:22
BluesKajohadios, did you run startx ?20:22
DrPenguinBluesKaj: he restarted gdm20:22
BluesKajwhat about lightdm20:23
DrPenguinBluesKaj: if hes able to restart gdm hes not using lightdm20:23
ohadiosok20:24
ohadiosran startx20:24
ohadiosim back in gnome20:24
* BluesKaj has bone up on the vagaries of ubuntu dms ... no such troubles with kde :)20:24
DrPenguin… what? that makes no sense20:24
ohadiosi know!20:25
ohadiosplus its not the really gnome... just thought it was. I got just a couple of menus20:25
ohadiosI'm gonna try a restart one more time ?20:25
DrPenguinohadios: sure why not20:25
BluesKajDrPenguin, ohadios , nope I've seen that before , the dm is running without X  ...yes it's true20:25
DrPenguinBluesKaj: Thats not what doesnt make sense. if X didnt come up with restarting gdm, then it shouldnt come up with startx20:26
ohadioswell20:26
DrPenguin… the dm cant run without X20:26
ohadiosrestart brings black screen anyway20:26
fizyplanktondoes anyone know how to change the default program for a given file type? my comp seems to think that .conf files are vmware config files, and nautilus, rather than previewing the text in them, shows a blue vmware icon.20:26
BluesKajwell, I've experinced that very thing , DrPenguin20:26
DrPenguinBluesKaj: right… but its not correct. Whats effectively happened here is that X came up using 2 different configurations, but it should of used the same for both20:27
BluesKajnot with gnome , but with kde , and nvidia / X20:27
ohadiosGuys, I really appreciate all the help... so what's the next step?20:27
BluesKajohadios, hoes your screen looking ?20:27
BluesKajhow20:27
ohadiosblack screen upon reboot20:28
ohadiosso i went back to tty20:28
DrPenguinohadios: show us the new log20:28
BluesKajbummer20:28
ohadiosDrPenguin http://paste.ubuntu.com/78913620:28
DrPenguinohadios: its still loading some nvidia module.. you didnt remove something20:28
BluesKajohadios, would you mind pastebining /etc/default/grub as well ?20:29
ohadiosDrPenguin http://paste.ubuntu.com/78913720:30
ohadioshow would I find if I have anything "nvidia" left?20:30
DrPenguinohadios: get me a paste of dpkg -l20:30
ohadioshihi20:30
ohadiosI did sudo apt-get remove nvidia*20:31
ohadiosremoving the nvidia-current-updates...20:31
ohadiosbut i think im also removing ubuntu-desktop :(20:31
DrPenguinthat wouldnt break X though20:31
fuuubecause u r noob20:31
fuuusimply20:31
DrPenguinfuuu: hush20:31
fuuuhe is noob yea20:31
fuuuhah noob20:31
DrPenguinand your a jerk, shut it20:32
fuuuyep i am20:32
DrPenguinohadios: can you please get me a paste of dpkg -l20:32
paulBirdhello! i want to boot windows on my ubuntu, do i just 'burn' the windows .iso to a USB i have?20:32
ohadioshow do i do that? just pasteinit -i dpkg -l?20:32
ohadiosin any case i "reinstalled" ubuntu-desktop... still no go20:33
DrPenguinohadios: im not quite sure how pastebinit works, id just do dpkg -l > dpkglog, and then pastebinit -i dpkglog20:33
fuuuhe cant ever copypaste LOL20:33
fuuulook @ noob20:33
urlin2upaulBird, you can make a ntfs with a bootflag and extract the iso to it.20:33
ohadiosDrPenguin http://paste.ubuntu.com/78914020:34
fizyplanktonpaulBird: no. if you already have ubuntu installed, go to system>admin>startub disc creator. then you need to install windows, then reinstall ubuntu on top. windows clears the master boot record on install, so ubuntu has to be installed after windows20:34
urlin2ufizyplankton, all wrong info .20:34
DrPenguinohadios: do a find on nvidia, you still have like 5 or 6 nvidia packages20:34
ohadiosDrPenguin is it the nvidia-173 that i need to uninstall?20:34
fizyplanktonurlin2u: oh really?20:34
ohadiosok20:34
DrPenguinohadios: get rid of ALL of your nvidia packages20:34
ohadiosi'll remove them20:34
fizyplanktonurlin2u: says the one who doesnt have a working quad boot20:34
urlin2ufizyplankton, yes the start up only does ubuntu, and the mbr is fixed with two commands or a chroot.20:35
DrPenguinget rid of xserver-xorg-video-nouveau20:35
paulBirdfizyplankton: ok, thanks20:35
urlin2ufizyplankton, I have 5 OS on one HD20:35
urlin2uincluding W7 fizyplankton20:36
ohadiosDrPenguin - when i do "apt-get remove nvidia-173" it said "pacakge nvidia-173 is not installed so not removed"20:36
fizyplanktonurlin2u: paulBird and if you already have windows, look in your cd burned prog for something like "open disc image or saved project"20:36
fizyplanktonburner*20:36
Kiteni hate to ask but i'm having trouble finding easycap drivers and i know that 11.10 has kernel drivers for it but i don't want to upgrade to 11.10 from my 10.04 lts20:36
BluesKajDrPenguin, he could black list nouveau in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf20:37
DrPenguinohadios: rc.. I think that means that the package is scheduled for removal or something.. you will probably need to use dpkg.. get rid of  nvidia-common first and see what happens20:37
Kitenwould someone mind helping me through it if you have experience with easycap20:37
DrPenguinBluesKaj: right.. but im telling him to delete nouveau20:37
ohadiosDrPenguin - how do i do that?20:37
DrPenguinohadios: … sudo apt-get remove nvidia-common20:37
ohadioswhen i do that it also wants to remove ubuntu-desktop20:38
DrPenguinohadios: … wha? that doesnt make sense.. whatever20:38
Kitensudo apt-get remove nouveau-firmware20:38
* BluesKaj shrugs ...getting rid of nouveau isn't easy20:38
DrPenguinjust do a dpkg —purge on thoe 4 nvidia rc packages20:38
fuuuohadios, so, do you solved your problem?20:39
ohadiosno, fuuu20:40
fuuuwould be funny if NOT LOL20:40
fuuuhahaha nooob20:40
DrPenguinwill someone kick fuuu20:40
ohadiosthanks fuuu20:40
fuuunp!20:40
ohadiosi appreciate u pointing the obvious20:40
fuuunoone will kick fuuu20:40
fuuubecause ops are noobs too20:40
eiriksvinwell, I just went down to walmart AGAIN and bought another top of the line WIFI adapter, and guess what it DONT WORK with UBUNT!20:40
ohadiosDrPenguin - when I try sudo dpkg --purge nvidia-17320:40
fuuuand dunno how to use an op20:40
DrPenguineiriksvin: your first problem: buying from walmart20:41
ohadiosI get warnings "directoty /usr/lib32/nvidia-173/tls not empty so not removed"20:41
ohadiosand 3 more directories20:41
DrPenguinohadios: man.. you messed something up when you originally attempted to remove nvidia20:41
eiriksvinLinksys AE2500 and if Ubuntu can't get their junk fixed, I will leave it behind just like windows20:41
fuuuDont you get warnings liek 'WANING! NOOB IS USING LINUX! ACHTUNG" ?20:41
ohadiosDrPenguin - I'm good at messing things up20:42
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fuuuohadios, try using debian, you'll dont get problems20:42
fuuuor gentoo20:42
urlin2ueiriksvin, in the bot link is the wiki for ones that work.20:42
fuuuubuntu is fucking hybrid20:42
ohadiosfuuu try using english20:42
DrPenguinthanks pangolin20:42
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eiriksvinI can't find anything that works right in walmart20:43
ohadiosDrPenguin... so... what next?20:43
ohadios:)20:43
BluesKajtoo many trolls and not enuff ops to kick them today20:43
lolohadios, i think, you should not use ubuntu20:43
DrPenguinohadios: you can try forcing the dpkg purge..20:43
PProvostHey guys, quick question. Which of my various local rc files do I put something I want to have run when I connect via SSH?20:43
ohadioshow do i force purge?20:43
DrPenguinohadios: I dont remember.. if you read the manpage or do dpkg —force-help it should tell you which force option you want20:44
fizyplanktoncan someone ban fuuu/lol's hostmask?20:44
Flannelfizyplankton: Already taken care of20:44
ofihbecause ubuntu is useless system20:44
ofihand you should not use it lol20:44
fizyplanktonoh whoops. contacts blurred over20:44
ofihit is for noobs20:44
ofihso every one who using ubuntu is noob20:45
Resistanceofih:  i think your opinions would be more valuable in #ubuntu-offtopic20:45
syn-ackGood afternoon, folks.20:45
eiriksvinMy Linksys AE2500 driver says it's good, but no light on the device and no connections available20:45
ofihResistance, STFU STUPID FUCK20:45
ofihlisten to me20:45
BluesKajPProvost, i just use an alias setup in ~/.bashrc in the target pc20:45
Resistancei dont have to20:45
Resistancebut you should20:45
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PProvostWow. A lot of that today?20:47
BluesKajold for a troll20:47
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eiriksvinI have to have a high end wifi, I play my PS3 through my Linux box, it is the only way I can get a signal I get it from my neighbors who have super fast internet and a fast router, right now I only have my linux box20:47
nick30:D20:48
Kitenlmao20:48
gendalfhmm20:48
gendalfcant ban?20:48
PProvostBluesKaj: I'm not sure I understand, or I didn't explain properly. Basically, when I connect to my Ubuntu server via SSH from my windows PC, I want that shell to immediately spawn tmux.20:48
BluesKajeristikophiles, get your own router20:48
Ryllez89anyway to share the videos file on ubuntu for playstation 3?20:48
DrPenguineristikophiles: do you not have your own internet service?20:48
Kiteneiriksvin, you can get a decent wireless adapter for like $20 bucks also be nice and ask your neighbours permission20:48
ohadiosDrPenguin - ok, so i forced removal of this packages, did a dpkg -l and confirmed no nvidia left there, restarted gdm, and still... black screen :)20:48
eiriksvinno no no, I have a computer that only has linux, it shares connection to my etherneted PS320:49
DrPenguinohadios: show me your log again.. I bet its still finding nvidia stuff..20:49
PProvostRyllez89: I think you can use MediaTomb to stream to PS3, but I've never done it20:49
worrowCan someone help me to figure something out?20:49
ohadiosDrPenguin http://paste.ubuntu.com/78915520:49
DrPenguinworrow: !ask20:49
PProvostworrow: just ask20:49
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worrowI have an external HDD and want to share over my network20:50
eiriksvinI have a crap wifi adapter working now, it's a Belkin and I had to make it run native, but it's not strong enough to keep a good signal20:50
ResistanceDrPenguin:  syntax learn ;P20:50
ohadiosDrPenguin - looks like now its trying to load it but not finding the modules :)20:50
DrPenguinResistance: BLAH! :P20:50
DrPenguinohadios: well that will happen its no big deal.. now its trying to use fbdev and it still fails.. your probably better off just reinstalling20:51
ohadioshaha20:51
Kitenbefore i mess something up i should use check first before installing updates right ?20:51
ohadiosyay20:51
eiriksvinndis says my driver is working, also says the hardware is present, but no signal, no nothing20:51
worrowSo I asked my question. Does anyone have the answer20:51
PProvostworrow: share to what/who?20:51
DrPenguineiriksvin: do you have your own internet service20:52
Kitenworrow, if your running default ubuntu you can use nautilus to make it a shared network drive20:52
Kitenyou have to mount it first20:52
geoffmccworrow: setting up shares should be pretty easy. right click what you want to share and go to Sharing Options- if first time it will ask you to install samba. do so.20:52
LosFrijoleshey has anyone ever had Xorg start using 70-80% cpu and the middle mouse button scroll stop working at random?20:52
worrowShare my external hard drive so I can access from my other computers20:52
eiriksvin<DrPenguin> no, I can't get it here20:52
PProvostworrow: what Kiten said20:52
KitenLosFrijoles, yea i've had that20:52
worrowPProvost, thanks20:52
worrowgeoffmcc, thanks20:52
eiriksvinMy neighbor can, he's just down the road20:52
DrPenguineiriksvin: so let me get this straight.. you dont have an internet service but your trying to set up a router?20:52
worrowKiten, thanks20:53
KitenLosFrijoles, if i recall i believe it was a badly configured xorg20:53
astartothhi all, just installed ubuntu from a mini.iso. I'm having 2 problems: enable/disable services and the network configuration that stalls when system is booting20:53
LosFrijolesKiten: any ideas on fixing it? So far I have only managed to fix it by restarting the session and its starting to get annoying20:53
Kitenworrow, no problems20:53
eiriksvinbut it costs too much to run cable to my house20:53
astartothhow can I skip auto configuration of network20:53
KitenLosFrijoles, i'm not sure how ubuntu does xorg but on arch it was /etc/X1120:54
eiriksvinno I'm trying to set up my Wifi adapter20:54
DrPenguineiriksvin: ok glad I got that clear.. what does iwconfig return?20:54
eiriksvin1 se20:54
eiriksvinsec20:54
KitenLosFrijoles, lemme see if i can find where buntu stores its xorg stuff20:54
BluesKajPProvost, after ssh-ing into your target pc, then in ~/.bash rc you can write a lineto make an alias like tmux=/path/to/tmux , like /usr/bin/tmux or whatever is used to make it run. Then when you ssh intothe pc aagin just type tmux or whatever letters you chose and the app should run .20:55
PProvostBluesKaj: Yeah, I don't have a problem running it. I wanted it to run automatically when I remote into the machine (which is always over SSH).20:56
eiriksvinhttp://paste.pound-python.org/show/15845/20:56
mongyPProvost: ssh user@host -t 'whatever command'20:56
KitenLosFrijoles, what DE are you using ?20:56
eiriksvinDrPenguin ^^^20:56
DrPenguineiriksvin: according to iwconfig, wlan0 is set up20:56
eiriksvinyes, but thats what I'm running on now20:57
PProvostI was hoping for something in my .bashrc or .profile which would basically say "if connected remotely over SSH, then tmux att"20:57
nick30do you have antenna attached?20:57
BluesKajPProvost, interesting idea, if you find an answer , I hope you can return and share it with us...my knowledge on rclocal and runlevels is pretty scanty20:57
eiriksvinhttp://paste.pound-python.org/show/15846/20:58
LosFrijolesKiten: im using Ubuntu 11.10 which doesn't have an xorg.conf file by default. i think they only way to create one is logging into a recovery shell and running X -configure. is there any particular setting I should make sure is fixed a certain way to remove the problem once i get that far?20:58
Kiteni'm better at configuring arch than i am with ubuntu just because i'm used to where files are at20:58
eiriksvinLinksys is what I want to run20:58
KitenLosFrijoles, well thats not the only way to make one you have an nvidia card ?20:58
DrPenguineiriksvin: well if wlan0 isnt your linksys adapter.. then its not installed20:58
hewanwhat?20:58
sstaPProvost: you can...20:59
LosFrijolesKiten: I'm on an acer aspire one. it uses the intel atom integrated graphics (whatever they are)20:59
Kitenahh howdy then i'm on the same ;p20:59
eiriksvinndis shows driver installed, and hardware present20:59
hewanok what is this all about?20:59
sstaPProvost: something like: if [ ! -z ${SSH_CLIENT} ]; then ...do stuff...; fi20:59
Kitenyeah mine i think is a gme5xx or something20:59
gendalfnoobs21:00
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Kiten5 . 4 . 3 .2 .121:00
hewanwhat is every body saying pls?21:00
LosFrijolesKiten: lol small world. so what should i have to change to get the scroll working properly assuming i manage to create an xorg file?21:01
eiriksvin<gendalf> you were once a noob too, not only that but don't run your mouth if your not helping21:01
KitenLosFrijoles, go to appearance and turn off all the eye candy that will lower your cpu usage21:01
jribIn oneiric on a macbook 4,1, « xset s activate » does not turn off the backlight; it just reduces brightness to a minumum.  How can I make it turn off the backlight?  (Yes, I've executed « xset s blank »)21:01
PProvostssta: Thanks! It ended up being "$SSH_CLIENT" but it seems to work so far21:01
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Kitenalso LosFrijoles if you have the older acer aspire one scroll works but its extraoridinarly freaking hard to use21:02
sstaPProvost: cool.  I always forget the exact rules for quoting/escaping shell variables....they never made much sense to me21:02
Kitenthe new aspire ones have little divets on the touch pad where the scrolling area is21:02
PProvostssta: same. :)21:02
eiriksvinso anyone got any ideas what I should do with this Linksys AE2500?21:03
hewanhewan.83@gmail.com21:03
LosFrijolesKiten: i have one of the first ones to come out...finding the sweet spot has always been a little more difficult (i usually use an external mouse, but the scroll also stops working on that at the same time)21:03
DrPenguineiriksvin: have you looked at the compatibility list for adapters?21:03
Kitenyeah if you use an external mouse you need to disable the touch pad21:03
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KitenLosFrijoles, the sweet spot on mine is as far right of the pad as possible with out hitting the mouse button21:04
Kitenthen you gotta hold it21:04
eiriksvinDrPenguin I have, it's not on there, but I can't find a dual band wifi adapter that I can buy21:04
DrPenguineiriksvin: if its not there then it may not work *wink* have you tried another brand like belkin or netgear?21:05
FMGrungekidHey Guys, I recently graduated from Uni doing a Computer Studies Degree. I wanna swtich over to Ubuntu but at the same time i am trying to learn c# and web development and i'm not sure whether learning programming on ubuntu will hinder my ability to learn how to programme or not? Is programming platform independent apart from the gui development side of it?21:05
eiriksvinwhat ever happend to madwifi and their alt driver stuff?21:05
KitenLosFrijoles, i don't remember how but there was a way to increase the scrolling area software wise but it made using the touch pad normally pretty difficult21:05
jribFMGrungekid: ask the c# channel21:05
fizyplanktonFMGrungekid: yes. infact i would reccomment programming on ubuntu21:05
DrPenguinFMGrungekid: first off, Congrats on your graduation! for your question.. the platform is dependent if your target language isnt universal21:05
eiriksvinI just tried a Netgear, no go, and the Belkin n150 (slower) says it don't work21:06
onelinerFMGrungekid: take a look at eclipse21:06
PProvostFMGrungekid: Also ask on #mono, since you want C#21:06
DrPenguineiriksvin: I find that hard to believe, Ive used a netgear dualband card on my ubuntu box21:06
fizyplanktonFMGrungekid: and by yes i mean i reccommend it. im not sure exactly what "yes" answers21:06
Ryllez89the problem with c# on linux is the .net framework21:06
Ryllez89but we have mono21:06
LosFrijolesKiten: the main issue I end up having is when the scrolling stops working even on my external mouse. it doesn't happen on my desktop computer and it didnt happen on this one until I upgraded to Ubuntu 11.1021:06
Ryllez89but not is the same thing21:07
fizyplanktonand wine21:07
PProvostFor web apps, mono isn't too bad21:07
nick30c# is similar to java, right?21:07
sstaugh...C# is a solution looking for a problem...21:07
psychoticmeowHi guys. I'm having trouble setting up dual monitors. Despite my xorg.conf file, I get mirrored screens, instead of a single desktop across two monitors. http://pastie.org/310378121:07
DrPenguinwait.. is mono freee? I was looking at mono for Android and it costs like 400+ bucks21:07
onelinerFMGrungekid: besides, you can test code in other oses using virtual machines within ubuntu21:07
DrPenguinnick30: yeah C#'s syntax is similar21:07
KitenLosFrijoles, yeah i was getting ready to upgrade but was thinking of holding off 11.10 has some quirky issues21:07
fizyplanktonnick30: i think so. i know c++ and it is very simmilar to java21:07
KitenDrPenguin, yes mono is free21:08
PProvostDrPenguin: mono is free21:08
Kitenthat mono for android junk was probably fake21:08
PProvostMight be someone is charging for the Android version but that seems odd21:08
fizyplanktonDrPenguin: if it runs on linux, odds are its free21:08
sstaC# is better than java in some respects I suppose (it has closuers for example).21:08
eiriksvinDrPenguin: I bought a Netgear WNDA3100 and it was a big fat NO21:08
eiriksvinso I brought it back and got the Linksys AE2500 and same thing21:08
nick30i tkink that c# is micro$oft version of java :D21:08
FMGrungekidAh thanks very much. I just have this niggling (probably stupid) feeling in the back of my mind that I am going to hinder my ability to learn it in some way. I have already tested a programme I made using c# and it seemed to work perfectly fine on mono. i am also planning to delve into ruby too which I have heard is better done under Linux/21:08
DrPenguinpsychoticmeow: that isnt a correct configuration for an extended monitor21:08
psychoticmeowReally?21:08
DrPenguinpsychoticmeow: yeah.. really21:08
KitenFMGrungekid, yeah ruby is really nice ;p21:09
psychoticmeowI created it from amdcccle :S21:09
DrPenguinpsychoticmeow: you need to tell one monitor to be left of or right of the other21:09
PProvostDrPenguin: If you're doing web development, just go Javascript/Node.js/JQuery and be done with it. :)21:09
DrPenguinPProvost: I puke on web development21:09
PProvostSorry, that was meant for FMGrungekid21:10
fizyplanktonpsychoticmeow: oh god the hells amdcccle gave me. i ended up writing the xorg file from scratch. from start to finish, it took 14 hours to get the 3rd monitor workingg21:10
sstaPProvost: that's all clientside.  Ruby/C#/Java are serverside21:10
psychoticmeowHah, damn21:10
Kitenwell looks like i'm going to upgrade in the hopes that my easycap will be supported in 11.10 since the author of the older one decided to play god and remove the driver from source forge21:10
sstayou *can* use javascript for serverside, but it's not all that pretty21:10
Kiten*removed21:10
fizyplanktonpsychoticmeow: but now i have 3 monitors. TOTALLY worth it imo21:10
PProvostssta: node.js isn't too bad once you get used to the programming model21:10
Ryllez89i like php :x21:10
psychoticmeowDrPenguin, how do I add that to the configuration?21:11
PProvostAnd the basically free cloud host/push model is lovely21:11
Kiteni'll be on later i guess21:11
PProvost(free as in easy not free as in $$)21:11
* Kiten in case i'm not happy new year21:11
DrPenguinpsychoticmeow: im looking it up now because I forget the syntax21:11
sstaPProvost: I'm paid to write serverside java.  Anything I need to do clientside uses gwt these days (which is javascript ultimately, but I never need to touch that :)21:11
psychoticmeowDrPenguin, thank you :)21:11
FMGrungekidOk guys, I think I will switch over. I have used ubuntu on and off for about 3 years so I am ok with it and even developed my final year project on it. Thanks for the information guys. You have been a big help :)21:11
nick30yw :)21:12
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rokiahi every body, if i have the menu in french does that means that my local is set to  fr_FR.UTF_821:13
DrPenguinpsychoticmeow: i might be ditzing on this.. but I think the syntax is: Option "Direction" "MonitorIdentifier"21:13
psychoticmeowHmm, how does that designate left and right? By order?21:14
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DrPenguinpsychoticmeow: so your directions are LeftOf, RightOf, Above, and Below. you go to the monitor section you want to extend, and you tell it to extend in the direction of the other monitor21:14
vadi2I can connect to an ftp location using command line ftp <server> and then giving it my username (it accepts any), but this is failing to work via Connect to Server feature of nautilus - what am I doing wrong?21:15
sstapsychoticmeow: I have a dual head setup (nvidia driver).  Want me to pastebin my xorg file so you can steal the syntax?21:15
psychoticmeowssta, I'll see if this doesn't work first21:15
DrPenguinssta: are you using Xrandr?21:15
psychoticmeowDrPenguin, so it's Option "LeftOf" "RightMonitorId"?21:16
DrPenguinpsychoticmeow: naively, yes21:16
sstaDrPenguin: I don't think so.  It's whatever the nvidia config tool setup (twinview I think)21:16
Teratogenunder Network/Wireless21:16
Teratogenit says "Unavailable"21:16
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Teratogenbut it gives a hardware address21:16
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Teratogendoes that mean I don't have a driver installed?21:16
DrPenguinssta: I dont know if twinview syntax is the same as xrandr21:16
sstaDrPenguin: I have 4 heads at work and I couldn't use XRandR21:16
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DrPenguinssta: cause your using 2 cards right?21:17
sstaDrPenguin: ah, fair enoigh21:17
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sstaDrPenguin: at work, yes.  At home it's just one.  I just checked, it's Twinview21:17
TeratogenI have ubuntu installed on a Compaq Presario V2000... when it was installing it said it did detect a wireless device21:17
DrPenguinssta: yeah Xrandr does not work with dual cards yet21:17
Teratogentrying to get wireless working21:17
Matrixiumn2014sorry about the nick spam21:17
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psychoticmeowQuick, someone claim 201521:18
Teratogenoh wait21:18
Teratogenis there a wireless button!?21:18
sstaOne of these days I'll get a motherboard with enough PCIx slots to have more monitors at home.  Can never have too many screens :)21:18
mongyssta: try arandr, it has a gui.  not sure if it will detect anything different21:19
DrPenguinmongy: xrandr isnt an option when theres more tahn 1 card21:19
Teratogenah21:19
psychoticmeowDrPenguin, going to give it a try, will see what happens. Updated the config: http://pastie.org/310378121:19
Teratogennow it says Wireless/Firmware Missing21:20
Teratogendoes that mean driver missing?21:20
sstamongy: what I have works.  Took me ages to get it all working at work, I'm reluctant to play with it21:20
DrPenguinpsychoticmeow: you dont need both, just the option in 1 or the other.. not sure if that will puke on you21:20
mongyTeratogen: what card you have?  lspci | grep Network21:20
psychoticmeowDrPenguin, same result21:21
DrPenguinpsychoticmeow: dont out that Option in both sections, just one or the other21:21
psychoticmeowOk21:21
doritoDanAight DrPenguin it worked using your command21:22
doritoDandkpg or whatever21:22
doritoDanwhat does it do, install the app?21:22
Teratogenoh how do I get to a shell prompt?21:22
mongyTeratogen: ctrl alt t21:22
DrPenguindoritoDan: um.. yeah if it worked then the package should be installed21:22
doritoDanalright, cool.21:22
doritoDanthanks man21:22
psychoticmeowNo such luck21:23
DrPenguinpsychoticmeow: ok.. lets try something here.. give me the output of xrandr please to pastebin21:23
psychoticmeowhttp://pastie.org/310388121:24
Teratogenbroadcom corp. BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]21:24
Teratogenis that helpful?21:24
DrPenguinpsychoticmeow: ok lets try something.. do… xrandr —output DFP5 RightOf DFP621:24
doritoDanOk so I'm running Firefox, Opera, Epiphany, Chrome, Chromium and Konqueror.21:25
doritoDanDid I forget any major Ubuntu browser?21:25
TeratogenKonqueror21:25
psychoticmeowDrPenguin, displays usage info21:25
Teratogenoh21:25
Teratogenyou got that! =)21:25
DrPenguinpsychoticmeow: i figured.. do xrandr —output DFP5 -o RightOf DFP621:26
mongyTeratogen: yeah.  you need to install firmware-b43-installer21:26
Teratogenmongy, cool.... how do I do that?21:26
doritoDanHm… I can't make Konqueror stick in my unity bar21:26
doritoDanthere's no option to keep it in the bar21:26
doritoDanwhy is that21:26
mongyTeratogen: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer21:26
psychoticmeowDrPenguin, same deal21:26
psychoticmeowdoritoDan, midori?21:26
DrPenguinpsychoticmeow: … for the love of God.. hang on21:26
jremiAnyone in here have skills with obj-c (ios sdk) , .net frameworks, c# , restful web-services, json and also utilizes github?21:26
psychoticmeowDrPenguin, funny characters in your message21:27
psychoticmeowThe first - is an mdash21:27
psychoticmeowStill no go though21:27
doritoDanpsychoticmeow: Alright, I'll check it out. Thanks.21:28
DrPenguinpsychoticmeow: its - -.. my irc client is combining them21:28
DrPenguin!ot | jremi21:29
ubottujremi: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!21:29
psychoticmeowTried this: xrandr --output DFP5 -o RightOf DFP621:30
Teratogenuhm, I never set a root password21:30
Teratogenhow do I set a root password now?21:30
pnorman!root | Teratogen21:30
ubottuTeratogen: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo21:30
DrPenguinpsychoticmeow: and?21:30
mongyTeratogen: its your users password21:30
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Teratogenok21:31
psychoticmeowUsage instructions21:31
mongyTeratogen: the first user created that is..21:31
Flannelmongy, Teratogen: The root password doesn't exist, the root account is locked.  To use sudo, you enter your user password, but this is not the "root password".21:31
mongyTeratogen: so assuming you are the first user created, you're good to go21:31
psychoticmeowxrandr --output DFP5 -right-of DFP621:31
psychoticmeowNo... :S21:31
DrPenguinTHATS the syntax21:31
psychoticmeowAha: xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 2970x1920 (desired size 3360x1050)21:32
DrPenguinxrandr —output DFP5 —right orleft-of DFP621:32
psychoticmeowThat size is not what I desire21:32
DrPenguinpsychoticmeow: that is refering to your virtual screen size.. its too small (sorry about that, -o is for rotation)21:32
psychoticmeowYes21:32
psychoticmeowmy second screen is rotated right21:33
DrPenguinpsychoticmeow: well thats because you have a rotation option in your X conf21:33
psychoticmeowSo virtual screen should be 2970x168021:33
DrPenguinpsychoticmeow: no.. thats what your screen size is.. you need to make it bigger, 4096 2048 should be sufficient21:34
Teratogenmongy, thanks21:34
psychoticmeowWait, why does it need to be bigger if it fits the two screens?21:35
DrPenguinpsychoticmeow: your confusing screens. in X, you have somehting called a "Screen". this is an X screen that your monitors fit into. THAT needs to be enlarged21:36
psychoticmeowYes, I was just pointing out that my monitors both fit into the current screen area21:36
psychoticmeowAt least they would if rotated21:36
DrPenguinpsychoticmeow: because its cloned. Clone is different21:36
psychoticmeowI'll increase it in xorg.conf21:36
psychoticmeowbrb21:37
hansg01need help to configure vpn21:37
hansg01how to create one?21:37
DrPenguinthats not an Ubuntu related topic21:38
PProvostssta: Node.js is server side21:39
Kiten!vpn | hansg0121:39
ubottuhansg01: For more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN21:39
hansg01i need to know how to create one in ubuntu21:39
psychoticmeowDrPenguin, ok, xrandr ran that time21:39
AgamemnusHello.21:39
AgamemnusI need some basic help.21:39
Kitenhansg01, look at what ubottu said21:39
psychoticmeowThe display is still cloned though21:39
pnorman!ask | Agamemnus21:40
ubottuAgamemnus: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience21:40
DrPenguinpsychoticmeow: if you use xrandr —output DFP5 —right-of DFP6 it wont be21:40
psychoticmeowThe only affect is that the mouse cursor only appears on one display21:40
psychoticmeowI ran: xrandr --output DFP5 --right-of DFP621:40
DrPenguinpsychoticmeow: thats a "bug" in X Server21:40
AgamemnusI'm trying to install the Freebasic compiler, and I followed the instructions, but I keep getting "bash: /usr/local/bin/fbc: No such file or directory"21:40
AgamemnusIt must be some simple syntax issue left out of the instructions...21:40
pnormanAgamemnus: Where are the instructions you followed?21:41
AgamemnusThey are here: http://www.freebasic.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=167909#p16790921:41
AgamemnusAnd here is what happens: http://www.freebasic.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=168662#p16866221:41
AgamemnusI don't know where the user/local/bin is or how to access it, either21:42
AgamemnusI'm flying blind.21:42
KitenAgamemnus, its /usr/local/bin21:43
hansg01the gateway in pptp vpn is the pptp server?21:43
Kitenand it doesn't exist unless an application created it21:43
sanmanAgamemnus: is /usr/local/bin in your $PATH?21:43
AgamemnusSo, judging by the read-out here, did it?21:44
Agamemnus$PATH?21:44
sanmanAgamemnus: echo $PATH21:44
Kitenhansg01, i'm pretty sure there is a channel for vpn questions try #vpn if that doesn't work the guys in #linux usually love talking about network stuff21:44
AgamemnusI'm kind of on Windows now. What is the significance of this?21:44
hansg01kiten: on freenode itself?21:45
Kitenyes21:45
sanmanAgamemnus: why don't you try in #windows then?21:45
Agamemnus:|21:45
DrPenguinAgamemnus: its a basic OS thing. PATH defines where  your command interpreter looks when you issue a command to it21:45
AgamemnusI'm trying to install Freebasic in ubuntu.21:45
* tyler_wylie read that as FreeBSD in Ubuntu.21:45
KitenKiten, i'm not proficient in networking so i can't really help you, i can do ftp servers(somewhat) and IRC21:45
* tyler_wylie got excited and then let down.21:45
Kitenlol21:45
Kiten*hansg01,21:46
AgamemnusIf I set $PATH to /user/local/bin will this work?21:46
tyler_wyliehansg01: What are you trying to do?21:46
AgamemnusI mean.. usr/local/bin21:46
sanmanAgamemnus: you want to do "export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin"21:46
Kitentyler_wylie, he's wanting to configure a vpn21:46
DrPenguinAgamemnus: you will break your system if you do that.. first check if thats in your path, if not you want to APPEND it not set it21:46
sanmanAgamemnus: but that may not even fic your issue21:46
hansg01tyler_wylie: set up a uk vpn21:47
tyler_wylieKiten: I see, trying to get more details about it21:47
KitenDrPenguin, i've not fooled around with ENV's too much care to explain how to append ?21:47
AgamemnusI really have no clue. It tells me this:21:47
Agamemnus"Extracting ./FreeBASIC-0.23.0-linux.run into '/usr/local'...21:47
Agamemnusok21:47
tyler_wyliehansg01: What kind of endpoints?21:47
DrPenguinKiten: what sanmansaid will work21:47
AgamemnusDoesn't this mean that I have a /usr/local' already?21:47
DrPenguinAgamemnus: ofcourse you do21:47
KitenDrPenguin, ahh thanks didn't see that21:47
hansg01tyler_wylie:i just have the pptp server,username and pass21:47
DrPenguinKiten: thats the beauty of Strings in Bash, its very simple, you can concatenate by simply putting strings next to each other without a space separating21:48
Agamemnuswhat if I set the PATH to '/usr/local'? wouldn't that make more sense?21:48
AgamemnusSince that's where it got installed to?21:48
tyler_wyliehansg01: If you're in Ubuntu you should be able to set up a simple PPTP vpn with the NetworkManager tool, I believe there's a PPTP plugin as well so that you can create a new network in there.21:48
sanmanAgamemnus: if you do that you will break things21:48
Agamemnusor should i go with "export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin"?21:48
DrPenguinAgamemnus: nope.. because it was extracted in there.. doesnt mean theres a binary in there21:48
tyler_wyliehansg01: I've got more experience with Cisco VPN but I know that I've been able to setup PPTP with NetworkManager before.21:49
AgamemnusOk, how do I CD to usr/local again?21:49
hansg01tyler_wylie: i m there21:49
KitenDrPenguin, yeah i've just not messed with ENV's alot because i've bricked a few really sweet setups21:49
hansg01tyler_wylie: the gateway = pptp server?21:49
sanmancd /usr/local/bin21:49
tyler_wyliehansg01: I went to edit connections, VPN tab, add, then select PPTP21:49
Agamemnusthanks21:50
tyler_wyliehansg01: Yes, the gateway will be the endpoint of your tunnel21:50
shadfchey guys, i just upgrade to 11.10 and I had an existing software raid1 array.  I've got that working once I get into ubuntu, but it won't mount at boot.  I have to skip it because it "isn't available" or smth.  Any ideas?21:50
hansg01tyler_wylie: yeah done hat too21:50
Agamemnusi21:50
Agamemnusi'll be back :)21:50
hansg01tyler_wylie: and what abt NT domain?21:50
Teratogenit's strange to have a unix that doesn't have a root account21:51
hansg01tyler_wylie: i have inserted what i had for pptp server to gateway and username password to wht is there21:51
tyler_wyliehansg01: Is your PPTP end point a Windows box?21:51
Teratogenin Slackware the first thing I do when I open up a terminal is su root21:51
ohadiosDrPenguin - can you give me the ppa again? I should've saved it...21:51
tyler_wylieTHat's part of an Active Directory domain?21:52
hansg01hansg01: i am trying to connect bestukvpn.com21:52
TeratogenI guess Ubuntu is trying the protect the user from him or herself21:52
tyler_wyliehansg01: Unfortunately I'm not familiar with how their VPN setups work21:52
dravenis it safe to delete files under /lib/modules?21:52
hansg01hansg01:oh21:53
hansg01hansg01:okay thank you!21:53
tyler_wyliehansg01: Under advanced you can specify which authentication method to use as well, I use mschap here but should try to grab as much information from them on configuration details for your VPN.21:53
DrPenguinohadios: dont use the ppa, go to nvidia.com21:53
ohadiosok... though nvidia also has 290.10 as latest... not 29721:54
DrPenguinohadios: its dependent on your video card.. an older card wont have the "latest" driver21:54
ravenvlc - where to set the capturing dir?21:54
BluesKajohadios, use what nvidia recommends for your card21:55
hansg01hansg01: if you aren't busy  chck this for all the details i have http://www.bestukvpn.com/21:55
sanmandraven: those are your kernel modules, I would recommend leaving them21:55
tyler_wyliehansg01: I am working on some alcatel lucent FTTU equipment atm so don't have much spare time21:56
dravensanman, they appear to have quite a back log of versions and i'm out of space due to packages21:56
BluesKajohadios, newest isn't always best21:56
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DrPenguindraven: dont look to /lib/modules to clean your stuff out.. they arent all big21:56
hansg01tyler_wylie: okay thank you!21:56
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tyler_wyliehansg01: Best of luck getting that setup21:58
ohadiosBluesKaj, DrPenguin - Nvidia recommends 290.10... so im downloading it from their site. I know new is not always best, but old is flickering... (which is the original reason for me coming here :) )21:59
DrPenguinohadios: is double buffering enabled in your X server?21:59
ohadiosi'll check in a sec. how do i install the driver i downloaded from nvidia? its a .run file?21:59
ravenvlc - where to set the capturing dir?22:00
DrPenguinohadios: you need to kill X, sudo sh the .run file, and then turn X back on22:00
who_meohadios: using the x-swat repo might be best than running the .run file :)22:00
who_mes/best/better22:00
DrPenguinwho_me: id disagree there22:00
AgamemnusHello again..22:01
AgamemnusIs there a website that has this channel running as a web-chat?22:01
AgamemnusI don't want to keep switching between Windows and Ubuntu22:01
linxehAgamemnus: http://webchat.freenode.net/22:01
Agamemnusah22:01
linxehAgamemnus: but why not install an irc client in ubuntu and windows?22:01
Agamemnusterrible captcha, i'll never get it22:02
Agamemnustoo lazy22:02
who_meunless you want to be dropped to console and have to rebuild your kernel module manually every time you get a kernel update22:02
AgamemnusOk, so here's the problem now22:02
DrPenguinwho_me: Thats how you get stuff done on Linux..22:02
AgamemnusI added the PATH as suggested22:02
who_meDrPenguin: there are simpler ways22:02
Agamemnus("export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin")22:02
DrPenguinwho_me: I prefer what is imo the "right" way22:02
AgamemnusIt still doesn't work.22:02
AgamemnusI went to /usr/local/bin22:03
DrPenguinAgamemnus: what happens when you try to exec the compiler22:03
AgamemnusI did "dir", and there was a single entry: "fbc"22:03
AgamemnusI typed "fbc" and got "bash: /usr/local/bin/fbc: No such file or directory"22:03
ravenvlc - where to set the capturing dir?22:03
DrPenguinAgamemnus: try which fbc22:03
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linxehAgamemnus: do ./fbc22:04
AgamemnusOk, I'll try that, thanks.22:04
BluesKaj, Happy New Year All ! , see you next year :)22:06
ohadiosThanks for all your help BluesKaj22:06
ohadiosdamnit! missed him by that much22:06
agamemnusOk, I'm on ubuntu22:07
ohadioswell... updated to 290.10. restarting. Godspeed! (DrPenguin)22:07
agamemnusI tried ./fbc, and it still gives the same error22:07
DrPenguinagamemnus: which fbc22:07
QationWill using fdisk to partition a disk with an OS already installed destroy the data or is there a way to perserve it?22:07
agamemnusit says:22:08
DrPenguinagamemnus: that means its not in your path22:08
agamemnus"/usr/local/bin/fbc"22:08
DrPenguinoh well that means it is in your path22:08
agamemnusI'm at "michael@ubuntu:usr/local/bin"22:08
agamemnuswith the $22:08
agamemnus"michael@ubuntu:usr/local/bin$"22:08
tyler_wylieThen ./fbc should work...hmm22:08
agamemnusI get the same error22:09
DrPenguinagamemnus: can you get us the output of ls -l /usr/local/bin/fbc?22:09
agamemnusbash: ./fbc: No such file or directory22:09
agamemnuswhat do you mean?22:09
auronandaceis fbc a directory?22:09
agamemnusoh, ls22:09
agamemnusok22:09
mongyQation: you can use it to make a partition with available free space, it will be ok22:09
DrPenguinauronandace: im verifying that now22:09
agamemnus"-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1497052 2011-08-06 18:51 /usr/local/bin/fbc"22:10
auronandaceDrPenguin: good call22:10
DrPenguinok thats not a directory..22:10
sanmanagamemnus: try running it with the full path, "/usr/local/bin/fbc"22:10
agamemnusSame error.22:10
DrPenguinagamemnus: whats the output of $PATH22:11
Flannelagamemnus: Can you please pastebin the past few commands you've tried/output you've gotten?22:11
agamemnus"bash: /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games: No such file or directory"22:11
Teratogensudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer22:11
agamemnusFlannel: That's exactly what I'm doing :|22:11
Teratogensays not found22:11
Teratogenwhat am I doing wrong?22:11
DrPenguinagamemnus: thats good.. /usr/local/bin is in your path..22:11
DrPenguinTeratogen: is your repo synced?22:11
Teratogenusing Ubuntu 11.1022:11
ohadiosDrPenguin! 290.10 installed, system booted, flickering seems to be gone!!!22:11
Teratogenoh22:11
Flannelagamemnus: No, I meant copy a bunch of lines (10, 15, something like that), and then pasting them (all together) into paste.ubuntu.com22:12
Teratogenhow do I sync my repo?22:12
DrPenguinohadios: very good sir! :)22:12
DrPenguinTeratogen: sudo apt-get update22:12
Teratogenlet me do that right now!22:12
ohadiosDrPenguin now.... sound over HDMI is not working :( and video plays in funky hues22:12
ohadiosARGHH22:12
Flannelagamemnus: So we can see prompts, commands, and responses, all together.22:12
agamemnusFlannel: http://www.freebasic.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=168662#p16866222:12
DrPenguinohadios: :(22:12
agamemnusThis is what was supposed to have worked22:12
agamemnusI tried the install again, too.22:13
Flannelagamemnus: Yes, please pastebin the past few commands you've done here22:13
ohadiosthis is very frustrating... Don't want to go back to Windows -but it was so easy there.... and I really want to watch these videos!22:13
sstawrong shebang maybe?22:14
DrPenguinohadios: you may need to configure your X Server a bit.. working on an automagic configuration does not always give you the best results.. theres an nvidia config page from arch linux.. use that22:14
ohadioswhere do i find that?22:14
agamemnus:|22:14
DrPenguinohadios: peruse the arch wiki, searching nvidia on it should result in what you want22:14
Flannelagamemnus: Are you on a 64bit OS right now?22:15
sanmanagamemnus: give us the output of "uname -a" then "file /usr/local/bin/fbc"22:16
agamemnusI'm on Ubuntu 64-bit, I think.22:16
angela-hello i have ngircd running now but its not configgert yet22:17
agamemnusLinux ubuntu 3.0.0-12-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 7 14:56:25 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux22:17
mongyohadios: try installing/using pavcontrol and see if you can choose your device as output.22:17
agamemnususr/local/bin/fbc: ERROR: cannot open `usr/local/bin/fbc' (No such file or directory)22:17
DrPenguinO_o? why does x86_64 repeat in your output? thats weird22:17
mongyagamemnus: you are.22:17
ssta leading / missing agamemnus22:17
agamemnusthree times22:17
DrPenguinagamemnus: file /usr/local/bin/fbc22:17
sanmanagamemnus: the leading / is important22:18
agamemnus"/usr/local/bin/fbc: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.4, stripped"22:18
Flannelagamemnus: The above errors are why I asked for a pastebin of commans/responses.22:18
Flannelagamemnus: You'll want to install ia32-libs22:18
agamemnusI was getting to that, Flannel :)22:18
agamemnusWhat is ia32-libs?22:18
Flannelagamemnus: OR better yet, find a FreeBasic that's built for 64bit22:18
sanmanagamemnus: or you could see if the software you are tyring to use comes in a 64 bit version22:18
DrPenguinagamemnus: 32bit compat libraries for 64bit os22:18
agamemnusThere isn't one.22:18
sstait's 32bit only22:19
agamemnusSo the whole thing is because I'm trying to run a 32-bit program on a 64-bit OS?22:19
sanmanagamemnus: run this: "ldd /usr/local/bin/fbc"22:19
DrPenguinagamemnus: im skeptical tho.. the error your getting doesnt correspond with an architecture error22:20
sanmanagamemnus: does it tell you it can't find any libraries?22:20
agamemnussanman: "not a dynamic executable"22:20
sanmanwell, that's interesting22:20
sanmancan you build fbc from source?22:21
Teratogenok22:21
Teratogengot wireless working22:21
Teratogenthanks all22:21
agamemnusWell I was told that I would have troubles with a 64-bit OS, but I didn't know I couldn't do anything at all with it22:21
agamemnusI probably could, but I don't know how22:21
DrPenguinagamemnus: the source balls usually come with README's22:21
ohadioshow do i check what version of the driver is actually being used?22:21
TeratogenDrPenguin, mongy, and others22:21
DrPenguinohadios: Xorg.0.log will tell you22:22
Flannelagamemnus: This is really a 'problem' with FreeBasic, not the OS.22:22
agamemnusso, 32-bit programs can't be run by 64-bit Ubuntu?22:22
benbloomis there a way to find out what the specs on my PCIe graphics card are without opening up the computer?22:22
sanmanagamemnus: if they are built correctly they can be22:22
ant30hey, Happy new year for Ubuntu World22:23
sanmanagamemnus: this is a problem with the distribution of the software22:23
Teratogenbenbloom, lspci ?22:23
sstaagamemnus: they can.  Install ia32-libs22:23
angela-how do i enther the config file of ngircd i have it running now?22:23
benbloomright Teratogen22:23
agamemnusHow do I install ia32-libs?22:23
sanmanagamemnus: apt-get install ia32-libs22:23
sstaagamemnus: apt-get install ia32-libs22:23
sanmanagamemnus: sorry, sudo apt-get install ia32-libs22:23
sstaumm, sudo in there too22:23
robbbieanyone with an apple magicmouse or some sort of trackpad able to mimic osx touch gestures in ubuntu??22:23
ohadiosuhm22:23
agamemnusit's doing something :D22:24
ohadiosIt's still running 173??22:24
OliveGreenHi all.22:24
sanmanhi22:24
samrugerim having trouble using gnome3 shell in 11.10. all the images are all broken and screwed up and im having trouble finding a fix on googlel22:24
ohadiosI think I know what I did wrong...22:24
OliveGreenFirst of all, happy new year everyone! :-)22:24
robbbiesamruger: i had a similar problem with nautilus, just running 'killall nautilus' solved the problem once i started it back up.22:25
agamemnusHappy new year, OliveGreen.22:25
agamemnusOk, I ran it.22:25
agamemnusWOW22:25
agamemnusit works!22:25
agamemnus:D:D:D:D:D:D22:25
agamemnusThanks, guys!22:26
sanmanyou're welcome22:26
sstastrange error to get for an arch issue.22:26
sanmanI agree22:26
Teratogenby the way, I am using Ubuntu 11.1022:27
Teratogenis that the latest?22:27
sstalatest stable, yes22:27
OliveGreenSecondly, I'm having a very annoying problem with my mouse (curson, actually). It freezes eventually (as in stops moving at all that I have reboot to get it to work again). Is there any command which can sort fix it or something?22:27
agamemnuswanted to try compiling but ubuntu is not reading all the partitions, so i'll be back again..22:27
ohadiosYEAH! DrPenguin! Running 290.10, sound working, no flickering! the world is GREAT22:28
OliveGreenohadios, congrats. :)22:28
ohadiosDAMNIT22:29
ohadiosSpoke too soon22:29
ohadiosstill flickering22:29
samrugerrobbbie,  i killed nautilis and started it again but it didnt do anything22:29
DrPenguin>_>;… ohadios can I see your log?22:29
ohadiosyes you may22:29
ohadiosone sec22:29
benbloomso Teratogen http://paste.ubuntu.com/789228/ is the ATI RS690M my video card? I thought that was the builtin22:29
ohadiosDrPenguin http://paste.ubuntu.com/789230/22:30
Teratogenlooks like it, benbloom!22:30
DrPenguinohadios: looks like your issue is related to your GPU's powermizer settings.. can you open up nvidia-settings? the powermizer settings should be in there22:32
ohadiosim there22:32
ohadioswhat am i looking for? there's nothing editable there.22:32
DrPenguinyou basically wanna prevent any power saving features in the GPU22:32
Teratogenbenbloom, you have a notebook, or a tower, or what?22:33
ohadiosi cant find any way to disable it22:33
TeratogenI think the ATI would be the chipset on your motherboard22:33
Teratogendo you have a video card installed?22:33
benbloomTeratogen: i just realized i ran lspci on the wrong terminal. i figured out22:33
Teratogenoh22:33
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Teratogenso did you find the info you needed?22:33
benbloomty for the followup22:33
benbloomyup22:34
TeratogenI was just thinking if you have a video chipset on the motherboard and you also have a video card installed you might have to go into the bios and disable the motherboard video, is all22:34
DrPenguinohadios: check this out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82836922:34
benbloomim trying to figure out if my cord will support 3 video outputs. the card has VGA DVI and HDMI22:35
benbloomI want to clone my DVI screen onto the HDMI screen but I'm not sure my hw will support it22:35
slakcphilhey all! have a happy new year!22:39
ohadiosDrPenguin - seems like that works!22:44
agamemnusHi again.22:45
ohadiosI really appreciate all your help here today! I know it wasn't as simple as "restart the machine, you idiot"...22:45
agamemnusI still have a few issues22:45
ohadiosI really appreciate all your help here today! I know it wasn't as simple as "restart the machine, you idiot"...  (DrPenguin)22:45
ohadiosgotta go shower now... good buy everyone22:45
agamemnusIt's saying, for instance, "ld: cannot find -lgcc"22:45
DrPenguinohadios: its np22:46
agamemnusI tried "sudo apt-get install libgcc-dev" but it's not working22:46
agamemnusI know it's something trivial..22:46
caffinehow do i find the /dev device to which a usb device has been bound? apparently, usbcore registered my device with snd-usb-audio, but i'm not sure where or how to find it to use on the command line with mplayer. i can see the video at /dev/video0 but don't know where to find the audio. here are the relevant entries from dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/789239/  and here's lsusb:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/789240/22:47
grendal-primeanyone running 10.04 on a dell latitude d61022:48
agamemnusWhat is the format for getting gcc for instance?22:48
cypher-neogrendal-prime, I'm not. Are you?22:48
grendal-primeagamemnus, apt-get install gcc22:48
agamemnusi don't think that's it22:49
grendal-primecypher-neo,   might be...well if someone cant tell me about what to expect on it.22:49
agamemnusor,22:49
agamemnusthat's not the right gcc22:49
benbloomso. would it be possible to run my two monitors off my PCIe gfx card and then a third off the built in HDMI output?22:49
SoulShadowbenbloom: doubtful22:49
sstabenbloom: depends on your BIOS.  Some turn off the onboard when you have a PCIx22:49
SoulShadowmost*22:50
cypher-neogrendal-prime, It will run like every other laptop that runs Ubuntu Linux. Just fine, usually, barring any hardware problems unique to your machine.22:50
RobinJHAPPY NEW YEAR!!!! (in 10 minutes :p)22:50
grendal-primeya, i would like compiz to work is the biggie22:50
SoulShadowas long as it doesn't have BCM431122:50
RobinJWHOOHOO FIREWORKS IM GONE22:50
SoulShadow:D22:50
cypher-neogrendal-prime, What would you like to know specifically?22:50
ubluntubenbloom: you can specify certian busID's for devices if you make an xorg.conf22:50
grendal-primecompiz...or..whatevery they call it now..."desktop effects" i guess22:50
cypher-neogrendal-prime, It's still called Compiz, and yes it runs on Dell.22:51
grendal-primeeverythign i google on it is of course old and...well you know im thinking ati drives for it may be better.22:51
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benbloomubluntu: is it possible to override the BIOS with xorg.conf?22:51
benccwhat is the command to add a new apt-key?22:51
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grendal-primenot all cypher-neo my mini 10's dont run it22:51
ubluntubenbloom: no. use lspci to see if all your devices show up22:52
benccthis page http://erlyvideo.org/doc/installation#s1 says: wget -q -O - http://debian.erlyvideo.org/binary/gpg.key | apt-key add -22:52
caffinehere's what i'm trying to do and how it's failing:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/789241/22:52
benccbut I'm getting an error22:52
cypher-neobencc, "apt-key add"22:52
sstabencc: what error?22:53
benccgpg: can't open `': No such file or directory22:53
agamemnusIf I get "ld: cannot find -lgcc", how do I fix this?22:53
gerinychcan someone suggest me any software that can be used to sync a folder with a samba share?22:53
agamemnus(this is a compiler message)22:53
benbloomubluntu: unsure. i think not, but here's my lspci: http://paste.ubuntu.com/789245/22:54
grendal-primecypher-neo, i found some on ebay cheep..(relatively) though i Might pick some up to resale with support fees.22:54
benccssta: gpg: can't open `': No such file or directory22:54
cypher-neogrendal-prime, Have you tried booting said Dell d610 with a Live CD? You will know almost immediately if compiz works or not.22:54
benbloomit's not listed as a VGA compat dev22:54
cypher-neogrendal-prime, Having a graphics card is always preferable. :)22:54
grendal-primei dont physically have one in my possesion22:54
sstabenbloom: try it with  " ... |sudo apt-key add -"22:55
bencccypher-neo: how can I tell if the key at http://debian.erlyvideo.org/binary/gpg.key is ok?22:55
ubluntubenbloom: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT218 [GeForce 210] (rev a2)  looks like your onboard is disable22:55
grendal-primecypher-neo,  ya no kidding...even then though ive run into problems.22:55
cypher-neogrendal-prime, What kind of problems?22:55
grendal-primenot so much anymore these days..but older equipent...pain.22:55
benccssta: works. thanks22:55
bencccypher-neo: works thanks22:56
agamemnusoh well, maybe later22:56
benbloomnot sure what you mean ssta22:56
sstabenbloom: sorry, was a nick completion fubar22:56
benbloomlol. thought i tmight be ssta22:56
k4r1mI'm having an issue with gnoem3, its installed and so as the shell theme but it loading up the old classic theme and not shell for some reason, also there is no themes to select in the gnome tweak tool.. any ideas?22:57
benbloomthanks for looking ubluntu. that is how i read it as well22:57
ubluntubenbloom: so you need to enable it in bios.22:57
yumboHappy new year everyone :)22:57
benbloomif that's even possibe ubluntu22:57
ubluntubenbloom: I don't see why not ?22:57
sstait's often not22:58
robin0800k4r1m: install gnome-themes-standard22:58
ubluntuic my bios has options for. enable if no peg. and enable always22:58
ublunturunning 2 monitors on one x screen with no xinerama my self22:59
k4r1mrobin0800: already installed22:59
benbloomi'll look into it. I'm hoping to clone my 1080p monitor via HDMI23:00
benccssta: the line of the sources list looks wrong: echo "deb http://debian.erlyvideo.org binary/" >> /etc/apt/sources.list23:00
robin0800k4r1m: on log in screen think gnome shell is just gnome but needs even more resources than unity23:01
sstabencc: it's legal23:01
k4r1mI don't resources is the problem… got plenty23:01
sstawell, pretty sure it is23:02
benccok. trying again23:02
k4r1mrobin0800: I did get gdm to load up fine23:02
Teratogenwait, what if I WANT a root account?23:03
robin0800k4r1m: what version of ubuntu are you running?23:03
sstawell, you can set it up if you want.  What do you want one for?23:03
TeratogenI like being root23:04
Teratogen=)23:04
k4r1mrobin0800: 11.1023:04
Teratogenwhat is Unix without root!?23:04
sstathe root account is still there.  It's just not enabled for login.  You can use "sudo -i" if you like23:04
benbloomone word Teratogen/ sudo23:04
ssta or enable root23:04
robin0800k4r1m: well its lightdm not gdm in 11.1023:04
hot2trotcan anyone tell me where I put .desktop file to make my windows manager come up in ubuntu gdm?23:05
k4r1mrobin0800: I reconfigured it.23:05
hot2trotit's apparently NOT /usr/share/sessions23:05
Teratogenssta, I can understand Ubuntu's philosophy of wanting to protect the unsophisticated user from him/herself23:05
Teratogenbut it is just natural for me to su root whenever I bring up a term in Slackware23:05
k4r1mrobin0800: also I just tried installing a few themes from webupd8 but they are not showing up in the tweak tool23:05
sstaTeratogen: so do that.  It's not hard to enable it23:05
Teratogenwell, not on this laptop23:06
Teratogenerr, notebook23:06
Teratogenwhich I am setting up for a friend23:06
robin0800k4r1m: you have to restart the shell to see them23:06
xxiaowonder why spidermonkey is not in lucid...23:06
Teratogenbut if I decided to switch from Slackware to Ubuntu as my major distro, I will definitely want to have root23:06
Teratogens/decided/decide/23:06
k4r1mrobin0800: I did.. numerous times23:07
sstafine.  That's your choice.  It's easy to enable if that's what you want to do...23:07
k4r1mI'm going to try changint he themes via gsettings23:07
robin0800k4r1m: think you need dconf editor for that23:08
hot2trotthe directory /usr/share/sessions does not exist on my 10.04 install... where can I put ratpoison.desktop so it shows up in my gdm options?23:08
k4r1mweird it worked but it changed the theme something weird and old23:08
pnormansudo handles 95% of what you need, sudo -i handles another 4.5%, and for the remaining uses, someone doing them should know how to enable root anyways23:09
benbloomTeratogen: all you have to do is 'passwd' to enable su23:09
aBoundsudo su to enable root. :P23:09
benbloomwell u have to set the password first dont you aBound?23:09
k4r1mI can change the windows theme but not the shell theme since nothing is showing up… to be more clear23:09
aBoundbenbloom, More or less enter the password after the command.23:10
richtroyeHi, just installled ocelot, I would like to increase my number of workspaces, from the default 4 to what I usually use, 1223:10
k4r1mrobin0800: I don't think gnome-shell is loaded haha23:10
hasoTeratogen: sudo  bash is the trick..23:10
richtroyeAny suggestions for doing that?  The tweak tool doesn't seem to have the option though that tool did let me do focus follows mouse23:11
aBoundrichardwhiuk, Install the compizconfig manager from within software center.23:11
richtroyek4r1m I shouldn't need gnome-shell for doing that.23:11
Maverick@richtroye, do you have compiz settings manager installed?23:11
richtroyethanks, aBound23:11
k4r1mrichtroye: what?23:11
robin0800k4r1m: no shell or extensions or shell themes if you are not in gnome shell23:11
richtroyeAnd yet compiz has seemed to dislike and / or ignore my going beyond 4 workspaces before23:12
k4r1mwhy is gnome- shell not loading then? any way to manually run it23:12
aBoundrichardwhiuk, No problem afterwards click on the Unity plugin and go to work23:12
richtroyeStill, I'll do it23:12
aBoundrichtroye, No problem.23:12
robin0800k4r1m: is it in the log in screen list23:13
k4r1mthere is 3 selections in the login screen GNOME, GNOME Classic and GNOME Classic no effects23:15
k4r1mI'm using just "GNOME", am I suppose to see GNOME  Shell or something?23:15
robin0800k4r1m: gnome is the gnome shell23:15
k4r1mthat's what I'm using but no shell is loaded23:16
k4r1mjust goes to the old gnome style23:16
aBoundk4r1m, Did you install gnome-shell?23:16
k4r1mofcourse23:16
robin0800k4r1m: if you don't see it it is probably crashing as gnome classic is a fallback23:17
k4r1mhmm video drivers maybe?23:17
Fudgehi how can i use aptitude to hold a package from being upgraded?23:17
k4r1mor is there to load it from the terminal and see the errors?23:18
mongyFudge: aptitude hold package23:18
robin0800k4r1m: yes try that23:18
k4r1mhow lol?23:18
Fudgeok mongy  it still appears in the list of packages to be upgraded, is that expected?23:19
robin0800k4r1m: try gnome-shell23:19
k4r1mwindow manager error: unabe to initalize clutter23:20
k4r1mI might of forgot to install video drivers 1 sec23:20
robin0800k4r1m: shell uses clutter instead of compiz or metacity and of course different resources23:21
aBoundI thought gnome-shell used mutter.23:21
richtroyeabound Okay compizconfig is installed.  Bringing it up, I don't see anything about workspaces.  Do you have a suggestion?23:21
k4r1mrobin0800: yeah i think thats the problem, im installing the dirvers right now23:22
ivanatworkHAPPY NEW YEAR !23:22
aBoundrichtroye, Yes sir.23:23
k4r1malso was wondering whats a good way to benchmark hd write speed since the disk utility is only capable of benching read speeds23:23
aBoundrichtroye, Go to general options >> desktop size23:23
AutieHappy New Year from #Belgium to all people23:23
ivanatworkAutie, Italy here23:24
Autiesame timezone :)23:24
ivanatworklol yes23:24
mongyk4r1m:  dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=64k count=16k conv=fdatasync is what I use to test my vps speed23:24
robin0800not new year in gmt land yet23:24
richtroyeabound thanks, I did go there and set number of desktops to 12 but it had been 1 before, and horiz to 4 and vert to 3.  No change.  Though number had been 1 still had (and have) 4 *workspaces*.23:24
richtroyeIf you'd like me to log off / on say the word, maybe that'll fix it.23:25
mongyFudge: did you 'update' as well ?  I have used aptitude before and hold works23:25
milo_Hey everybody23:25
Fudgeill try mongy23:25
ivanatworkmilo ;)23:25
aBoundrichtroye, If you're using gnome-shell it isn't supported by it. But if you use Unity you can use compiz.23:26
aBoundrichtroye, Make sure you're using unity and the Ubuntu unity plugin.23:26
aBoundrichtroye, To check press the Windows key + S. Then check how many workspaces you have.23:27
k4r1mhmm after installing the recommended nvidia drivers my system is just hanging on boot now, I cant really see any errors all I see is the system stops23:27
Fudgestill appears though mongy  i might have to pin it23:27
richtroyeI had it working on fedora 16 in the gnome fallback mode.23:27
richtroyeHm, windows + 5 gives Libreoffice23:27
richtroyePerhaps windows + F5 ?23:28
aBoundk4r1m, Could be a lightdm bug. But to get a terminal hit ctrl-alt-f1.23:28
k4r1maBound: and load gdm?23:28
milo_Hey, does anybody have experience with getting Broadcom integrated wireless to work under Kubuntu?23:28
aBoundrichtroye, Windows key + S will show the workspaces unless you changed the default. Or if you're using 10.04 LTS might be different.23:29
aBoundk4r1m, Sure or type startx to load your desktop.23:29
htmlhi23:29
aBoundk4r1m, nVidia drivers are kinda buggy with lightdm I noticed even if you changed your grub file on 11.10 it might act up.23:30
richtroyeOh, sorry, I did 5 not S.  windows + s shows me the four workspaces, same as clicking the workspaces icon23:30
k4r1maBound: and the fact that I have a 460 makes things worst23:30
shawn1Ubuntu is detecting only one of my GTX 295 cores.  Does anyone know how I can get it to detect both cores?23:30
aBoundk4r1m, You could also load lightdm too.23:30
aBound:P23:30
mongyFudge: try keep23:30
Fudgeokey23:30
k4r1maBound: thanks gdm is loading by default now23:31
aBoundk4r1m, sudo service lightdm start.23:31
k4r1maBound: I just used dpkg-reconfigure gdm ;)23:31
k4r1mawesome shell is loading now thanks guys!23:31
aBoundNo problem isn't much of a fix but maybe in 12.04 they will fix a few issues.23:31
aBoundk4r1m,  I have an nVidia 1.5GB 580 GTXM and it still had the same issue like you and my system is only about a week old.23:32
aBoundSeems like lightdm is just buggy at the moment it is still relatively new.23:33
jribIn oneiric on a macbook 4,1, « xset s activate » does not turn off the backlight; it just reduces brightness to a minumum.  How can I make it turn off the backlight?  (Yes, I've executed « xset s blank »)23:33
jribmilo_: just use jockey to install the drivers23:33
Fudgehow can i open system settings from the dash or run box, i cant get orca to read the launcher23:34
k4r1mmongy: that doesn't seem to be verry accurate, it's giving me 107 Mb/s… I have a SATA3 SSD my system is booting in about 7 seconds that doesn't make sense23:34
aBoundEven though it was released in Sept 2010. :P23:34
htmlhow do i clone my ubuntu and move it to a different machine ?23:34
k4r1mhtml: dd :D ?23:34
htmlhuh?? whats that?23:35
htmlk4r1m,  what?23:35
k4r1mhtml: you are trying to clone your hd right?23:36
htmlwell yes23:36
k4r1mconnect the other hard drive and use dd23:37
ssta!clone |html23:37
ubottuhtml: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate23:37
htmlhtml | automate23:38
html!html | automate23:38
ubottuautomate: html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build web pages. WYSIWYG editors: KompoZer (was Nvu), Iceape Composer, Amaya (Hardy or earlier) - Development environments: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem - For a howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com/23:38
mayyin1Fudge: gnome-control-center23:38
k4r1mssta: I think he wants to clone his complete hard disk not just  packages23:38
sstaah....that's trickier23:38
html!automate23:38
ubottuWays to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning23:38
ubluntunot really its very easy like k4r1m said use dd23:39
ShadowE9899data destroyer dd :)23:39
Fudgemayyin1  that's the ticket thanx heaps23:39
mongyk4r1m: well dude, that's what I use to test speeds of disksw23:40
tjiggi_fok4r1m, he didn't ask to clone his HDD - his original question was: [18:34] <html> how do i clone my ubuntu and move it to a different machine ?23:40
mongydisks*23:40
sundiver1http://www.anno1777.com/index.php?i=12212823:42
sundiver1http://www.anno1777.com/index.php?i=12212823:42
IvoryZionWhere can I find the latest version of a package for any version of Ubuntu?23:44
htmlhow do i clone my ubuntu and move it to a different machine ??23:44
mongyhtml: clonezilla23:45
pythonirc101I'm running ubuntu with 2 monitors, and both my monitors just copy the same thing. How can I fix this?23:45
htmlcan i use it with windows to?23:45
willwork4foopythonirc101: check in settings for mirroring. Turn it off.23:45
willwork4foopythonirc101: display settings23:46
mikerepythonirc101: if you are using nvidia drivers, then just chnage the settings in Nvidia Xserver Settings (in System--> Administration)23:46
mongyhtml: it's a livecd/liveusb you boot into23:46
mongyhtml: it backs up disks/partitions of any format23:47
mikereof course with linux you can just use dd to backup a drive, but it's not really for the faint of heart23:48
Guest34210any  at&t user recommend na adsl modem?23:48
shawn1Sorry23:48
shawn1my computer just crashed23:48
shawn1I'm using the GTX 295 for CUDA23:48
shawn1and it was ending a work unit23:48
mongydd copies every used and unused byte23:49
shawn1like I said, only one core seems to be detected23:49
mikerenothing like an exact copy =)23:49
mongydd is a nice tool, but for partition images, no really23:49
pythonirc101mikere: is there a system command for it?23:49
robin0800html: in ubuntu 11.10 there is a backup tool23:49
ShadowE9899dd, thats the command23:50
mongymikere: I personally don't want an exact copy since my other comp has a larger drive.. I don't need it to make that partition smaller23:50
mikerepythonirc101: just use that live cd mongy recommended or robin0800's suggestion - dd really isn't the best idea23:50
pythonirc101just need to know how to do this using command line -- http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/08/ubuntu-tips-how-to-setup-dual-monitor/23:51
sstamongy: do a clean install, clone the packages installed, and backup /home (should be fine for most use cases)23:51
mikeremongy: I wasn't really suggesting it as a good solution - just that it's a possibility23:51
htmlrobin0800,  im on 10.10 , and i hear its a bit slow for my atom powered netbook23:51
mongymikere:  I welcome all suggestions, but this aint for me23:51
pythonirc101willwork4foo: is there a command line utility that will call display settings?23:52
MaxHRCan someone please tell me how to update the security certs?23:52
MaxHRhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/789249/23:52
willwork4foopythonirc101: not sure on ubuntu - I'm mainly a Solaris guy23:53
mongyhave to go do that 'new year ritual' in about 8 mins23:53
MaxHRI get that message on some webistes, and also a similar message when trying to install new packages23:53
mikerepythonirc101: here's a link to someone's idea of command line backup for linux: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3508723:53
pythonirc101mikere: you are confusing me with someone else23:53
ubluntupythonirc101: what do you want to displau exactly ?23:53
pythonirc101I need help setting up a dual monitor-- currently my two monitors just mirror each other23:54
robin0800!clone | html23:54
pythonirc101I'm on some kind of gnome, that does not have system-> display settings23:54
ubottuhtml: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate23:54
htmlrobin0800,  but thanks23:54
sstamikere: note that's old...these days a system is often tens or hundreds of gigabytes.  That solution doesn't scale all that well23:54
ubluntupythonirc101: do you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?23:54
pythonirc101yes23:55
ubluntupythonirc101: can you put it on pastebin23:55
pythonirc101http://paste.pocoo.org/show/528283/23:56
shawn1....crashed again....23:56
Chr|sHow do I install the latest amd graphic drivers?23:56
mongyChr|s: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide#Installing_Catalyst_Manually_.28from_AMD.2FATI.27s_site.2923:57
shawn1in fact, the NVIDIA X Server Settings only recognizes one core23:57
ubluntupythonirc101: this is some sort of virtualization ?23:57
pythonirc101yes, its running inside virtual box23:57
vsync_mmm23:57
vsync_shawn1 I had similar problems with my 295 GTX for ~2 years23:58
shawn1did you ever find a solution?23:58
vsync_Are you getting NVIDIA WAIT 1,6 and 2,6 (or similar) in xorglog?23:58
shawn1uhmm....where's xorglog?23:59
vsync_also, in kern.log are you getting "GPU at (xxx) has fallen off the bus. ?23:59
ubluntupythonirc101: well if you want seperate screens you can make new monitor and screen sections using monitor 1 instead of 0.23:59
shawn1is that in /etc/X11?23:59
Chr|smongy, thanks23:59
vsync_well /var/log/Xorg.0.log ... but in your case you might wanna check /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old23:59
ubluntupythonirc101: keep the 0 parts but make new ones for 1 also do you know what I mean ?23:59

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