[00:00] <danawar2> Looking for a way forward with my programing i know small amounts of C# and java from my year at university and am looking fro a way to help develop my programing skills by helping in development of simple aps can any one point me in the right direction?
[00:00] <iceroot> bo: its just a good way to see what is taking how much space
[00:00] <iceroot> bo: for your homedirecty you should use "du -sh .*" too
[00:01] <iceroot> danawar2: have a look at python (#python)
[00:01] <danawar2> do you recomend learning phython over c# and java?
[00:01] <bo> iceroot: so should i use that "sudo apt..." first to get rid of unnecessary packages and then "du - sh .*"?
[00:01] <DrPenguin> id recommend learning basic over C#..
[00:01] <iceroot> danawar2: #c is evil microsoft and not os-idenpentend
[00:01] <danawar2> i am goign into computer security
[00:02] <danawar2> what would be the best language to learn?
[00:02] <iceroot> danawar2: microsoft has nothing to do with security
[00:02] <DrPenguin> semi kidding because I dont like MS.. but, danawar2: your better off learning languages that work on any platform, it makes you much more versatile
[00:02] <iceroot> danawar2: learn things which are working on all plattforms, perl, python, java and of course c and c++
[00:02] <DrPenguin> danawar2: you will probably feel a little babied going to python, its much more simpler of a language than java or C# are
[00:02] <Kiten> danawar2, there is no best language , however C,C++,perl,Java are the most heavily used
[00:03] <linxeh> python too
[00:03] <Kiten> as far as web PHP,javascript
[00:03] <iceroot> also see ##programming
[00:03] <DrPenguin> danawar2: C/C++ would be a nice place to go, because you can use C/C++ code in tandem with Java
[00:03] <linxeh> and web, php, java, javascript, c sharp
[00:03] <Kiten> *rephrase that perl,python
[00:03] <tiox> I'll say it again for the hell of it, the Linux kernel is heavily made with C.
[00:03] <iceroot> linxeh: not c sharp
[00:03] <iceroot> linxeh: its evil and not working on all plattforms
[00:04] <Kiten> C# isn't cross platform or at least not very portable
[00:04] <DrPenguin> everytime a C# program is compiled, a kitten is killed
[00:04] <linxeh> iceroot: its evil. it works on windows. it mostly works on other major platforms. I only work in it when paid highly enough
[00:04] <iceroot> correct
[00:04] <Kiten> exactly
[00:04] <Kiten> don't kill me
[00:04] <iceroot> linxeh: like unix?
[00:04] <linxeh> DrPenguin: every time a C++ program is called, someone loses a leg
[00:04] <mebigfatguy_> Kiten, heh:)
[00:04] <danawar2> how much do you guys get paid roughly are you software developers?
[00:04] <Kiten> mebigfatguy_, ;p
[00:04] <iceroot> linxeh: and is there a free (not a solution killed with software-patents) implementation of c#? no
[00:04] <danawar2> i thought the best bet for good pay was to go into security or management
[00:05] <DrPenguin> danawar2: as a Linux Software Engineer for HP, I get payed like.. I think 35G's  a year
[00:05] <linxeh> iceroot: mono, but as you say, no
[00:05] <Kiten> the average salary is 70,000 a year
[00:05] <DrPenguin> danawar2: engineering intern rather *
[00:05] <linxeh> iceroot: but software patents dont really affect me in the UK
[00:05] <DrPenguin> im not a full time employee
[00:05] <linxeh> Kiten: I'm on around £500 a day
[00:05] <iceroot> DrPenguin: i am also a software engineer for hp :)
[00:05] <Kiten> for a just graduated full time
[00:05] <tiox> Interesting. So Mono is a free implementation of C#?
[00:05] <DrPenguin> iceroot: wow really? thats awesome!
[00:05] <bazhang> lets return to ubuntu support please
[00:05] <danawar2> Im in the UK aswell looking despretly for a placement but because i am doing a security course at university no companies want to employ me =[
[00:05] <Kiten> i meant in US so 70,000 $
[00:05] <linxeh> bazhang: good point :)
[00:06] <Jay_Levitt> iceroot: Can I blame you for my favorite HP-UX bug?
[00:07] <crazymarine> ok this is wierd, if i try installing 10.04 through cd, i get a mount error, but if i install through usb it works fine
[00:07] <iceroot> Jay_Levitt: its sad but we are using AIX instead of HP-UX.......
[00:07] <Jay_Levitt> haha
[00:07] <iceroot> crazymarine: when does the error happen? directloy after grub?
[00:07] <crazymarine> no when i boot from cd to do an install
[00:08] <iceroot> crazymarine: that is grub, its also used on the cd
[00:08] <iceroot> crazymarine: there is a bug about "grub can not handle your sata device correctly when it is set to a specific mode in the bios"
[00:08] <tiox> iceroot: Long live WebOS! It's a miracle HP decided to open-source it.
[00:08] <iceroot> crazymarine: and because of that grub cant use the cd but grub itself is starting fine
[00:09] <crazymarine> it cant mount /dev/loop0
[00:09] <iceroot> crazymarine: thats sounds like the issue
[00:09] <riddlebox> can you integrate your google calendar to the unity calendar?
[00:10] <digitard> is there a simple cli way to view contents of a torrent file, specificaly info_hash field. Something like:   less file.torrent
[00:10] <crazymarine> is there a fix in the works for it?
[00:11] <tiox> riddlebox: Without looking stuff up, I think the calendar in Ubuntu depends on evolution-common. Thunderbird is an E-Mail client that can be modified to use a bridge between Evolution calendar with it's celendar, which you can then integrate your Google calendar into.
[00:11] <DrPenguin> digitard: is a torrent file human readable mumbo jumbo?
[00:11] <iceroot> crazymarine: i am not sure, the workaround was to set the SATA mode to a different mode in the bios
[00:11] <Kiten> linxeh, nice
[00:11] <Kiten> linxeh, being unemployed sucks
[00:11] <MonkeyDust> DrPenguin  a torrent contains data to go and search the net to download something
[00:11] <iceroot> digitard: a torrent is just a (zipped?) xml file
[00:11] <tiox> But you also need to find the calendar extension for Thunderbird. Sunbird might be better if you want just a calendar.
[00:12] <riddlebox> tiox, I want the integration like there is in gnome3
[00:12] <kzman> hi, question: how can I know the packages that a task group (tasksel)?
[00:13] <iceroot> kzman: --list-tasks
[00:13] <digitard> DrPenguin, some of it is readable  but i can't figure out where the info hash is
[00:13] <iceroot> kzman: also see "man tasksel"
[00:13] <DrPenguin> digitard: that doesnt look like an ascii file
[00:13] <kzman> iceroot, mmh, thank you
[00:13] <iceroot> kzman: --list-packages sounds better
[00:14] <tiox> riddlebox: Try this out. Not sure how updated it is, but it might still work. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleCalendarWithEvolution
[00:14] <tiox> Also, real men use man.
[00:15] <digitard> DrPenguin, actually i thinks it's all ascii
[00:15] <DrPenguin> digitard: I beg to differ
[00:16] <DrPenguin> digitard: some of the stuff in there yeah you can read, but theres a TON of junk in the middle that when you cat the file for example, it will make your shell freakout
[00:17] <iceroot> digitard: as i said, a torrent file is xml (and maybe zipped)
[00:17] <digitard> iceroot, how would i attempt viewing the contents to find the value for the info_hash field?
[00:17] <okapi> any one can help me to mount Vxworks hard drive on ubuntu?
[00:17] <Melissa2012> anyone awake? :)
[00:18] <dalekusa> I have a question about booting into the command line
[00:18] <DrPenguin> Melissa2012: im sleeping
[00:18] <Melissa2012> so let me get this straight.  I have 4GB RAM and 1GB video RAM.  If I install 32bit Ubuntu, all Unbuntu can use is 3.5GB RAM and 0.5GB video ram, total=4GB?   but if I install the 64bit Ubuntu, Ubuntu can use the total of 5GB memory?
[00:18] <iceroot> !nox | dalekusa
[00:18] <Melissa2012> anyonw know?
[00:18] <Melissa2012> iceroot: you will know :)
[00:18] <DrPenguin> Melissa2012: if you wanna use ALL that memory yeah you will need 64bit
[00:18] <iceroot> Melissa2012: yes
[00:18] <dalekusa> what do I do if i want to change back into a graphical interface?
[00:19] <iceroot> dalekusa: ctrl + alt + f7
[00:19] <Melissa2012> iceroot: once I install Ubuntu on my D: drive, or sda2, can I make a ONE IMAGE backup file somehow and restore it from a boot CD if needed?
[00:19] <dalekusa> as i boot?
[00:19] <iceroot> digitard: http://sourceforge.net/projects/gtorrentviewer/
[00:20] <iceroot> Melissa2012: yes, e.g. with dd or clonezilla
[00:20] <iceroot> !clone | Melissa2012
[00:20] <iceroot> Melissa2012: forget the text from ubottu
[00:20] <Melissa2012> iceroot: so I boot clonezilla from CD and backup to one image file and to restore boot CD and restore?
[00:20] <clear`> pervane2626: dont pm people
[00:21] <iceroot> Melissa2012: correct
[00:21] <iceroot> !backup
[00:21] <Melissa2012> pervane2626: no I dont want to go out on a date with you, thanks for asking :)
[00:21] <Melissa2012> iceroot: clonezilla is the best easiest way for a noob?
[00:21] <digitard> DrPenguin, iceroot thanks
[00:21] <edbian> Melissa2012, get off IRC and install your OS already!
[00:21] <iceroot> Melissa2012: i think so, never used it :)
[00:21] <mongy> Melissa2012: I recommend clonezilla
[00:21] <edbian> :P
[00:21] <Melissa2012> edbian: lol :)
[00:22] <dalekusa> so to boot into gui, I press ctrl + alt+ f7 as the computer boots?
[00:22] <Melissa2012> mongy: where is the official clonezilla ISO?
[00:22] <mongy> Melissa2012: clonezilla.org
[00:22] <DrPenguin> dalekusa: … what? Ubuntu by default will boot into a "gui", unless something goes awry during boot
[00:22] <iceroot> dalekusa: at the moment your system is booting without a gui?
[00:22] <Melissa2012> edbian: I was just trying to fully understand.  so I came to ask,  If I install 32bit Ubuntu, all Unbuntu can use is 3.5GB RAM and 0.5GB video ram, total=4GB?   but if I install the 64bit Ubuntu, Ubuntu can use the total of 5GB memory?
[00:22] <Melissa2012> mongy: ok cool
[00:22] <iceroot> dalekusa: do you have a gui installed by default?
[00:22] <edbian> dalekusa, you wait for it to boot, then press ctrl+alt+F7   (however this is the default thing it boots to)
[00:23] <DrPenguin> edbian: thats actually incorrect.. by default were on tty1, then when X spawns we switch to tty7
[00:23] <mongy> Melissa2012: it will see 3.3gb ram and all your video ram.  Install a PAE kernel for it to see all your ram, or install 64bit
[00:23] <dalekusa> I am running a GUI.
[00:23] <edbian> Melissa2012, I think that if you install 32 bit you'll get 3Gb of ram and the entire 1Gb of video card.  But other than that, yes
[00:23] <edbian> DrPenguin, I see
[00:23] <Melissa2012> mongy: im installing 64bit Ubuntu anyway
[00:23] <iceroot> Melissa2012: why not just using amd64 as we already said 100 times instead of asking again?
[00:23] <DrPenguin> edbian: but thats only because by convention, X is told to spawn on tty7, this isnt set in stone
[00:23] <Melissa2012> mongy: i was just trying to learn about it thats all
[00:23] <Melissa2012> iceroot: because im learning
[00:24] <iceroot> Melissa2012: and we told you 50 times why you will not see 4gb with 32bit :)
[00:24] <edbian> DrPenguin, indeed. :)  I would prefer it on tty 4 myself!  Who needs 6 tty's ?
[00:24] <Melissa2012> iceroot: trying to understand properly, out of interest :)
[00:24] <Melissa2012> iceroot: im a slow learner, sory :(
[00:24] <edbian> Melissa2012, you've learned.  Now install!
[00:24] <edbian> :)
[00:24] <Melissa2012> edbian:  :-)
[00:24] <DrPenguin> edbian: exactly, Ive reduced my system to 2, and made the non X one a non root login shell to prevent intrusion
[00:24] <Melissa2012> iceroot: it wasn't 50 times, i was told 26 times :-)
[00:25] <iceroot> Melissa2012: ah ok :) then everything is fine and you have 24 times left :)
[00:25] <DrPenguin> for i in {1..24}; do; echo "Melissa2012: use 64bit!"; done
[00:25] <DrPenguin> done
[00:26] <Melissa2012> mongy: look what google found for me :-)  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/install-clonezilla-on-usb/
[00:26] <Melissa2012> iceroot: :-)
[00:26] <mongy> Melissa2012: I use it on usb too, on the same external hd I dump the images to
[00:26] <iceroot> Melissa2012: you can use a normal ubuntu-livecd for clonezilla
[00:27] <kzman> what does packages the «Basic Ubuntu server» task have?
[00:27] <edbian> Melissa2012, did you figure out why that link you posted said you could only use 4Gb with that proc?
[00:28] <iceroot> hm, what is the metapackage for the server-edition?
[00:28] <iceroot> i though it was "ubuntu-server"
[00:29] <mongy> Melissa2012: it's just a script (a good one) for partimage/partclone, so yes, you could run those commands in another distro.
[00:29] <thomedy> this suks i cant find a concrete answer to setting up my wireless
[00:30] <thomedy> when i hit ping it says network unreachable
[00:30] <edbian> thomedy, whats your concrete question?
[00:30] <lwizardl> Hello, doesn anyone know why my firefox browser version 9.01 running on Ubuntu. Every 5-10 minutes always pops back up to be the active window on the screen? I have removed all the addons and extensions and it still does the same thing.
[00:30] <DrPenguin> thomedy: whats the issue
[00:30] <edbian> thomedy, does sudo iwlist scan   show you wifi networkis?
[00:30] <edbian> networks*
[00:31] <thomedy> okay... i have gotten to i think the dhclient but i dont know what address to if_name on the ubuntu help pages
[00:31] <thomedy> i actually did the iwlist scan
[00:31] <edbian> thomedy, what did iwlist scan say?
[00:31] <thomedy> its ipv6 i think or at least inet6
[00:31] <lalagirl> hi everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[00:31] <thomedy> let me run it again
[00:31] <edbian> lalagirl, hello...
[00:31] <edbian> thomedy, it should list wifi networks
[00:31] <bazhang> lalagirl, no need for all the !
[00:31] <lalagirl> hi edbian  how are you?
[00:32] <lalagirl> I'm sorry if that bothers you bazhang
[00:32] <edbian> lalagirl, fine, you got a question?
[00:32] <bazhang> lalagirl, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[00:32] <DrPenguin> oh Man, lalagirl is beying very explanitory
[00:32] <edbian> bazhang, I asked her first!!!
[00:32] <DrPenguin> s/explanitory/explanatory/
[00:32] <thomedy> i did it earlier and it gave me wlan- info now it is giving me no scan  results
[00:33] <lalagirl> i don't have a question right now, i'm here to help answer questions… lol
[00:34] <edbian> thomedy, are you in range of any wifi networks?
[00:34] <thomedy> i really want to get to admin status on linux cuz i want to run my own servers
[00:34] <thomedy> yeah
[00:34] <edbian> thomedy, what card is this?
[00:34] <edbian> thomedy, what wifi card?
[00:34] <thomedy> +crap i forget the command one sec i just ran that
[00:35] <edbian> thomedy, sudo lspci -k   you could pastebin it: paste.ubuntu.com
[00:35] <thomedy> ar5001 wireless afrom atheros
[00:35] <thomedy> yeah i found it
[00:36] <thomedy> well that will take me a very long time because my linux machine is not connected im typing and typing but i will do it
[00:36] <thomedy> i have to hit paste bin on this machine and then type what i see onmy other machine
[00:36] <edbian> thomedy, what driver is currently installed?  what others are available?
[00:36] <Chipzzz> i have i have onieric on a desktop and USB headphones to keep the neighbors happy. The headphones disappear from the USB bus after about an hour... anybody know how to fix it?
[00:37] <thomedy> is there a good website i could learn from on a later time i want to be better at linux
[00:37] <Zopiac> Is there any way to have someone SSH onto your computer without port forwarding?
[00:37] <thomedy> it says ethernet atheros ar 5001
[00:38] <DrPenguin> Zopiac: I dont believe so
[00:38] <thomedy> or ath5k
[00:38] <Zopiac> DrPenguin: Pity.
[00:38] <DrPenguin> Zopiac: why cant you port forward?
[00:38] <thomedy> 5k is the driver and ar is the controller
[00:38] <thomedy> sorry
[00:38] <thomedy> i have alot to learn about networking i want to get it cuz its powerful
[00:38] <Zopiac> DrPenguin: Landlord owns router connecting through
[00:39] <DrPenguin> Zopiac: hack in, heel never know ^^
[00:39] <thomedy> that is actually the only ethernet i see
[00:39] <thomedy> oh wait there is a nother
[00:40] <bo> i believe i have filled up my entire sda5 where karmic is installed, and i want to completely free up space on that partition...
[00:40] <thomedy> r8169 by realtek
[00:40] <Zopiac> DrPenguin: I don't have direct access to the router (trying to get this for my brother, a few states away) but otherwise I would
[00:40] <bo>  i tried "sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean" and it returned all 0s (meaning that there were no (unneeded) packages to clean i think)...
[00:40] <bo>  i also tried "du -sh.*" in the /home directory and got a bunch of "permission denied"
[00:40] <bo> can anybody help please?
[00:41] <DrPenguin> bo: generally speaking, unless your root (but I could be wrong) you cant poke around in other peoples home dirs
[00:41] <bo> i have not tried 'rm' because i am not sure how to use it / where to use it
[00:41] <DrPenguin> bo: dont start blindly rming stuff, you will render your system poop
[00:42] <bo> drpenguin: how do you suggest i free up space (i don't need ANY data on that sda5 partition)?
[00:42] <Chief_G> can office 2010 be run under ubuntu using wine?
[00:42] <DrPenguin> bo: what is on sda5?
[00:42] <lalagirl> Hello everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now I have an Apple notebook and I was thinking about dual booting Mac OS X and Ubuntu. Is there a guide for that somewhere?
[00:42] <bo> 9.10 karmic
[00:42] <Chipzzz> bo: you could reformat the partition
[00:42] <bazhang> Chief_G, check the appdb
[00:42] <DrPenguin> lalagirl: is it an intel or ppc mac?
[00:43] <totem> lalagirl, yay, mac
[00:43] <lalagirl> DrPenguin it's a brand new intel core i7
[00:43] <bazhang> !appdb | Chief_G
[00:43] <bo> chipzzz: yeah... i'm hesistant to do so...what would be the best way to do that? i have the 9.10 installation cd
[00:43] <lalagirl> totem lol you have a mac as well?
[00:43] <lalagirl> totem I love Mac OS X
[00:43] <DrPenguin> lalagirl: ok, then your gonna need to be careful, supposidly there is an issue in 11.04+ where ubuntu borks the efi partition and some people have needed their macs lobos replaced (I ifnd that to be bs but meh)
[00:44] <lalagirl> DrPenguin Maybe I'll just run a virtual machine
[00:44] <DrPenguin> lalagirl: the simplest way to go about this would be to install rEFIt, then, using bootcamp, partition your system and install it on that pt, root and all
[00:44] <Chipzzz> bo: is your system installed to sda5?
[00:44] <DrPenguin> lalagirl: VM is mucho safer, esp if you dont need significant hw acceleration
[00:44] <bo> karmic yes, but windows on sda1 and sda 2
[00:45] <Chipzzz> bo: you could just reinstall if you have no data that you care about
[00:46] <bo> chipzzz: using the installation cd? i think that's where i messed up in the first place when i installed it... because i had up to sda12 i think, and i deleted all of them except windows partitions... so i need to figure out how to properly install karmic on a partition so that the partition is not 100% used (1967636)
[00:47] <lalagirl> Okay I'll buy VMWare Fusion, right? http://store.vmware.com/store?Action=DisplayPage&Env=BASE&Locale=en_US&SiteID=vmware&id=ProductDetailsPage&productID=165310200&resid=Tv5bcgoBAlgAADo9DdsAAAAw&rests=1325292399048
[00:47] <DrPenguin> lalagirl: lol dont pay for Fusion
[00:47] <digitard> gtorrentviewer doesn't install on 64bit, any alternatives?
[00:47] <lalagirl> DrPenguin what do you mean?
[00:47] <DrPenguin> lalagirl: you can use VMWare Server for Free, or Virtual Box
[00:47] <crazymarine> there are open source vm clients
[00:47] <DrPenguin> if you had to pay for a Hypervisor, then id go with Workstation.. im gonna buy a license before I graduate from school
[00:47] <Kiten> digitard, Transmission ?
[00:48] <lalagirl> DrPenguin does it run on mac?
[00:48] <Kiten> digitard, vuze, Deluge
[00:48] <DrPenguin> lalagirl: ofcourse
[00:48] <aBound> crazymarine, If by VM you mean virtualization there is a tool called: Virtualbox.
[00:48] <Chief_G> the wine app is often outdated and does not accurately reflects the progress made by individuals that don't bother to update the database
[00:48] <Kiten> digitard,  oh nvm
[00:48] <aBound> lalagirl, :P
[00:48] <edbian> Why does VLC often not synchronize audio and video when player movies?
[00:49] <crazymarine> https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[00:49] <Chipzzz> bo: if the deleted partitions (now free space) are contiguous you can reinstall with / at sda5 and /home in a new partition in the free space... there are advantages to keep / and /home on separate partitions
[00:49] <lalagirl> DrPenguin it says vmware vcenter server is over $2000!!!!!!!
[00:49] <Kiten> edbian, uhh might not be vlc's fault maybe the video and audio aren't synced in the video
[00:49] <DrPenguin> lalagirl: thats not VMWare Server
[00:49] <edbian> Kiten, mmm, perhaps
[00:49] <lalagirl> hey aBound !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i missed you, how are you? ready for new years eve?
[00:49] <DrPenguin> lalagirl: thats probably something along the lines of VSphere
[00:50] <lalagirl> http://store.vmware.com/store/vmware/en_US/DisplayProductDetailsPage/productID.233867900
[00:50] <DrPenguin> lalagirl: yeah thts for VSphere, thats a management service for ESX(i)
[00:50] <bo> chipzzz: i am not sure what you are saying
[00:50] <shankysv87> i can't seem to get software to stay launched when they are working via wine.
[00:50] <DrPenguin> http://www.vmware.com/products/server/overview.html
[00:50] <thomedy> `on the ubuntu wireless trouble shoot page it says to ype lshw and look for claimed unclamed enabled and disabled... i dont have any of that
[00:50] <fokkle> lalagirl, probably want to skip that version unless you've got a server with ~32GB of mem lying around somewhere.
[00:51] <aBound> lalagirl, Hope something good comes out of new years.
[00:51] <Kiten> edbian, try another video player if its synced then its with VLC
[00:51] <edbian> Kiten, good point
[00:51] <edbian> Kiten, thanks
[00:51] <shankysv87> i need help with wine  1.3
[00:51] <aBound> lalagirl, Missed you too but I'll be right back.
[00:51] <Chipzzz> bo: right now, if I understand, you have two Windows partitions, ubuntu on sda5, and a bunch of free space, right?
[00:51] <bo> chipzzz: i think i just want to install the basics... not sure about the advantages... just want to be able to use it
[00:52] <Kiten> edbian, no problem :P
[00:52] <bo> chipzzz: i used "df" and got under "use" 100% for sda5 and 48% for sda1 (windows)
[00:52] <bo> chipzzz: yes, except i don't know about the free space
[00:53] <bo> chipzzz: and i think ubuntu is taking up sda 6 also?
[00:53] <lalagirl> DrPenguin it says VMWare vSphere is a paid product
[00:53] <lalagirl> http://www.vmware.com/products/datacenter-virtualization/server/compare.html
[00:53] <aBound> Back had to add the minimize/maximize buttons to my gnome-shell. Blah I don't understand why they aren't there by default.
[00:53] <ubuntuser1> hello, is there any application for parental control to restrict access to websites?
[00:53] <DrPenguin> lalagirl: yeah.. but i told you NOT to use VSphere
[00:53] <bazhang> lalagirl, and not what you want, at all.
[00:53] <bazhang> !VM | lalagirl please have a careful read
[00:54] <Balthazar> Anyone know how to restore the floating menu with the undo history in GIMP? I accidentally closed it.:-(
[00:54] <bazhang> !virtualbox | lalagirl and this too, please
[00:54] <lalagirl> bazhang I'm on a mac...
[00:54] <jeran> does anyone know if ATI Radeon x1200 works well on Mint 11 os
[00:54] <bazhang> lalagirl, and ? vbox runs on MACS
[00:55] <Chipzzz> bo: if you run "sudo parted" you can see what the partitioning looks like
[00:55] <bo> chipzzz: when i am logged in? just type "sudo parted"?
[00:55] <nixnine> hey guys, I am getting the following error on startup, something about "Invalid Environment Block".  anyone help with that?
[00:55] <thomedy> if i toggle ifconfig down/up
[00:55] <thomedy>  i get scan back
[00:56] <ubuntuser1> hello, is there a way to avoid the logon screen where the password has to be typed? I just updated to 11.10 and I had the pc to login automatically
[00:56] <thomedy> it seems like a bug
[00:56] <bo> chipzzz: i can only access the command line
[00:56] <shankysv87> where can i get help with wine?
[00:56] <lalagirl> virtualbox does not support aero if I were to run windows on mac
[00:56] <bazhang> lalagirl, and how is that related to UBUNTU support
[00:57] <DrPenguin> thats a good point
[00:57] <bazhang> lalagirl, try #vbox
[00:57] <nixnine> I am running ubuntu 11.10 from a 16 gb flashdrive.
[00:57] <lalagirl> that means virtualbox might have limited capabilities when running other operating systems
[00:57] <DrPenguin> nixnine: that kinda smells of a filesystem issue
[00:57] <fokkle> Balthazar, which menu?  are you talking about the layers applet?
[00:57] <lalagirl> such as ubuntu
[00:58] <Chipzzz> bo: parted is the command line version of gparted (disk manager)
[00:58] <DrPenguin> lalagirl: it has nothing to do with the platform.. its the implementation of the hypervisor
[00:58] <lalagirl> what does ubuntu use? GNOME or something?
[00:58] <Balthazar> fokkle: yeah, that one
[00:58] <lalagirl> what's hypervisor?
[00:58] <bazhang> lalagirl, yet this is all theoretical, and vbox runs fine. try it and we can troubleshoot. no telling with what if's
[00:58] <DrPenguin> a Hypervisor is the application(s) that allow you to run multiple OS's
[00:58] <fokkle> Balthazar:  hit ctrl+L
[00:58] <bo> chipzzz: so... when i am logged in? just type "sudo parted"?
[00:58] <Balthazar> fokkle: Gracias!
[00:59] <Chipzzz> bo: yes
[00:59] <DrPenguin> for example, VMWare Workstation is the ideal Hypervisor software for supporting 3dGraphics and gaming, whereas ESX(i) is more towards enterprise level computing
[00:59] <aBound> Virtualbox has seamless windows which is nice.
[00:59] <ubuntuser1> hello, is there a way to avoid the logon screen where the password has to be typed? I used to have the pc to login automatically and now it asks for password
[00:59] <nixnine> Well, I can still boot into the system.  I read it is a grub issue and can be resolved.
[00:59] <w_> anyone using gnome-shell?
[00:59] <bo> chipzzz: ok, and after i see what it looks like, then what?
[00:59] <nixnine> I am and love it
[00:59] <aBound> w_, I'm using gnome-shell.
[00:59] <Chipzzz> bo: "help" gives you the list of commands and "print all" shows you the partitions
[00:59] <lalagirl> how much memory does the virtual machine need to run windows?
[01:00] <lalagirl> i mean
[01:00] <lalagirl> ubuntu
[01:00] <|Slacker|> how do I get info about my cpu?
[01:00] <DrPenguin> lalagirl: id say "comfortably" atleast a gig
[01:00] <DrPenguin> slack-m: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[01:00] <nixnine> but is 11.10 using grub2?
[01:00] <bo> chipzzz: so i should be able to manipulate the partitions from "sudo parted"?
[01:00] <w_> nixnine u know how to put the upgrade count next the hour on the top panel?
[01:00] <Chipzzz> bo: yes, absolutely
[01:00] <lalagirl> i'm assuming windows uses a lot more memory
[01:00] <|Slacker|> thanks....I was doing it the wrong way lol
[01:00] <bo> chipzzz: ok thanks.... i'm going to try
[01:00] <nixnine> sorry, no.
[01:00] <fokkle> lalagirl: if vista or 7, 1.5 to 2.0GB
[01:01] <w_> thanks
[01:01] <Chipzzz> bo: my pleasure and good luck
[01:01] <aBound> I'm using Ubuntu and it's consuming about 800MBs.
[01:01] <lalagirl> fokkle okay thanks
[01:01] <lalagirl> aBound and are you running anything?
[01:01] <aBound> On my 16GB laptop.
[01:01] <fokkle> you can make it on 1gb but it will be so-so
[01:01] <lalagirl> aBound are you running any programs/applications
[01:01] <aBound> lalagirl, Nothing really just gnome-shell and xchat.
[01:01] <lalagirl> aBound oh okay… thanks
[01:01] <aBound> lalagirl, Oh yeah and synapse.
[01:01] <aBound> :P
[01:03] <shankysv87> where can i go to get help with wine?
[01:03] <DrPenguin> winehq.org
[01:03] <shankysv87> ty
[01:03] <dr_willis> !wine
[01:04] <lalagirl> I decided to buy VMware Fusion 4 for Mac, mainly because it is designed specifically for the Mac platform. This might give some performance boost or something...
[01:05] <bazhang> !ot | lalagirl
[01:05] <nixnine> this a supposed answer.  Can someone look at it and tell me what they think?  http://pastebin.com/6XHitd8R
[01:05] <ubuntuser1> hello, is there a way to avoid the logon screen where the password has to be typed? I used to have the pc to login automatically and now it asks for password
[01:05] <|Slacker|> is there any issues running a 32 bit OS on a 64  bit cpu?
[01:05] <lalagirl> bazhang it's not off topic… I'm trying to run Ubuntu using VM software
[01:06] <DrPenguin> |Slacker|: i dont think so
[01:06] <bazhang> |Slacker|, nope
[01:06] <DrPenguin> you just wont get all the 64bit goodness
[01:06] <bazhang> lalagirl, please proceed with any and all support questions here; chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:06] <|Slacker|> it's my first experience with a 64 bit cpu but it's an old laptop
[01:07] <lalagirl> |Slacker| not at all… you just won't utilize the true capabilites that 64bit software offers… also you won't be able to run 64bit software on a 32bit operating system
[01:07] <Kiten> [Slacker] nope there is none you just can't run 64bit applications
[01:07] <|Slacker|> :)
[01:07] <lalagirl> bazhang don't be rude. :)
[01:07] <Kiten> and you can't gain the benefits of more than 4gb of rams
[01:07] <|Slacker|> thanks people
[01:07] <Kiten> *ram
[01:07] <|Slacker|> this lappy has only 512mb ram
[01:08] <|Slacker|> 11.10 is kind sluggish here
[01:08] <dr_willis> |Slacker|:  may be worth using Lubuntu on it then.
[01:08] <DrPenguin> |Slacker|: oo.. you may not want to use ubuntu.. maybe Lubuntu is better
[01:08] <Kiten> my eyesight is getting worse everyday
[01:08] <DrPenguin> LXDE requires mucho less resources
[01:08] <Kiten> Fluxbox is Super lightweight
[01:08] <lalagirl> !Lubuntu
[01:09] <thomedy> can someone tell me if this makes sense i think i may have wrapped my head around a possible problem
[01:09] <|Slacker|> thanks...gonna give lubuntu a try
[01:09] <Kiten> !fluxbox
[01:09] <DrPenguin> it doenst have all that extra junk in popular OS's like ubuntu or kubuntu
[01:09] <ubuntuser1> what is the minimum amount of recommended ram a pc needs to run lubuntu?
[01:09] <thomedy> i have a broken battery so my card is in power saving mode
[01:09] <thomedy> all the time
[01:09] <DrPenguin> ubuntuser1: id say 256
[01:09] <lalagirl> DrPenguin what "junk" do popular operating systems have?
[01:09] <thomedy> does that make sense
[01:09] <DrPenguin> lalagirl: just all those extra applications and stuff
[01:10] <Kiten> lalagirl, preloaded applications
[01:10] <DrPenguin> thomedy: broken battery? like.. laptop battery or cmos battery?
[01:10] <dr_willis> Lubuntu is getting decently feature complete for getting 'work' done.
[01:10] <thomedy> no just the batter
[01:10] <Melissa2012> edbian: you here?
[01:10] <thomedy> im fairly certain cmos is fine
[01:10] <DrPenguin> thomedy: WHAT battery
[01:10] <lalagirl> ubuntuser1, according to the website, it says "System requirements
[01:10] <lalagirl> A Pentium II or Celeron system with 128 MB of RAM is probably a bottom-line configuration that may yield slow yet usable system with Lubuntu. It should be possible to install and run Lubuntu with less memory, but the result will likely not be suitable for practical use."
[01:10] <thomedy> the power source on my laptop
[01:10] <Melissa2012> edbian: im installing Ubuntu, should I select that mp3 audio box?
[01:11] <thomedy> i keep it plugged in al lthe time but the computer registers it as very low no matter what
[01:11] <Melissa2012> edbian: something about installing flash and audio codecs?  should I select it?
[01:11] <DrPenguin> thomedy: ok so laptop battery, and no that doesnt make sense.. unless your laptops CMOS is retained by your laptop battery which some laptops do that
[01:11] <Melissa2012> anyone?
[01:11] <thomedy> well i gues i dont know if that is the case
[01:11] <Kiten> speaking of batteries i have to ask why does the battery monitor take a minute to update ?
[01:11] <Melissa2012> DrPenguin: ?
[01:11] <ubuntuser1> is tehre any way to override the login screen when loading ubuntu? I updated from 10.04 to 11.10 and I used to have it without the login screen
[01:12] <DrPenguin> Kiten: dunno, I use conky for monitoring battery
[01:12] <andygraybeal> is there a better 'mail' program at the command prompt?  i want to read the local system mail, but the 'mail' program seems uhg.
[01:12] <Kiten> yeah thats what i'm using
[01:12] <thomedy> dang it this is driving me crzyi think the problem that im running into.. is wlan0 is turning itself off
[01:12] <DrPenguin> Kiten: oh? you should be able to tell conky how often to poll
[01:12] <dr_willis> ubuntuser1:  you mean auto-login?
[01:12] <ubuntuser1> dr_willis, yes :)
[01:12] <Kiten> DrPenguin, yeah but i think 0.5 is quite often
[01:13] <dr_willis> !autologin
[01:13] <dr_willis> ubuntuser1:  lightdm has that feature i belive
[01:13] <bo> anybody know how i can properly use "sudo parted"?
[01:13] <Kiten> DrPenguin, you wouldn't by chance know how to set up gauges would you ?
[01:13] <bo> *how i can learn how to
[01:13] <dr_willis> bo:  you are looking for a parted tutorial or 2 you mean?
[01:13] <Melissa2012> dr_willis: something about installing flash and audio codecs?  should I select it?
[01:13] <DrPenguin> Kiten: if I had it, id just look at my conkyrc, but my laptops been in the shop for almost a month (DEATH TO GEEK SQUAD)
[01:13] <ubuntuser1> dr_willis, sorry but I have no idea what is that. Is it a command or a program? or a config option?
[01:13] <lalagirl> !info lightdm
[01:13] <bo> dr: tutorial, sure
[01:14] <dr_willis> http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/manual/html_chapter/parted_2.html
[01:14] <dr_willis> i tend to use other tools
[01:14] <Kiten> DrPenguin, aww man if you live in east TN dude i coulda fixed it for free
[01:14] <ubuntuser1> dr_willis, lalagirl, DrPenguin, thanks :)
[01:14] <dr_willis> bo:  gparted, fdisk, or cfdisk is what i tend to use. but parted has other features
[01:14] <Kiten> Geek Squad is about as smart as a desktop publishing teacher
[01:14] <lalagirl> Melissa2012 if you want, you could
[01:14] <DrPenguin> Kiten: I could of fixed it to, but I would of had to pay for a new mobo which since its uner a 3 year warranty I aint gonna do that
[01:15] <DrPenguin> Kiten: oh I know, I used to be an Agent
[01:15] <lalagirl> Melissa2012 i would select it
[01:15] <lalagirl> Melissa2012 it's optional
[01:15] <Kiten> yeah bestbuy usually suckers you into geeksquad
[01:15] <lalagirl> ubuntuser1 anytime. :)
[01:15] <DrPenguin> I just got it because I got an insane discount on it
[01:15] <bo> dr_willis: ty, but i can only access command line because the sda5 that my karmic is installed on apparently is only 2.136 GB which gave an error status of 256 i think
[01:15] <Kiten> DrPenguin, ().()
[01:15] <DrPenguin> its a good idea to have it versus paying for parts on your own.. if the darn service was decent
[01:16] <dr_willis> bo:  cfdisk is easier to use then fdisk, or parted. but it depends on your needs
[01:16] <DrPenguin> fdisk is easy to use >_>
[01:16] <bo> dr: or my options lol
[01:16] <Kiten> bo: if you have spare flash drive you can install gparted on to it and boot it live if your mobo supports it
[01:16] <aBound> I'm off have a good one. :)
[01:17] <Kiten> later ;)
[01:17] <bo> kiten: wouldn't command line be easier? from quickly looking at the list of commands, it seems like all i would have to do is move or resize... properly of course
[01:18] <Melissa2012> lalagirl: i did
[01:18] <downloader> Can anyone confirm that sopcast-player works for them? http://code.google.com/p/sopcast-player/downloads/detail?name=sopcast-player-0.7.2.tar.gz&can=2&q=
[01:18] <lalagirl> Melissa2012 that's great! :)
[01:18] <clean> Anybody using nixnote ?
[01:18] <fokkle> bo: i've used parted.  how do you need to set up the disk?
[01:18] <Kiten> bo uhh no you should use gparted its much safer
[01:19] <DrPenguin> bo: you may as well just grab SystemRescueCD
[01:19] <DrPenguin> it includes gparted, plus some other awesome tools for system repair and recovery
[01:19] <lalagirl> downloader you want us to download and test if sopcast-player works?
[01:19] <downloader> lalagirl: :)
[01:19] <bo> i have 400 GB on my hard drive and i want to allocate about 150 GB to windows (my parents use that) and have the rest for karmic
[01:20] <Melissa2012> why is the install saying "wiping swap space for security, this may take a long time"?
[01:20] <z7> is there a way to create custom grub entries which start defferent sets of services, like some livecd that have several boot options in the grub menu such as 'no network' 'to ram' etc
[01:20] <DrPenguin> Melissa2012: a swap drive is similar to a paging file.. if theres any data in there that wasnt wiped hen it was being used, it could cause issues
[01:20] <lalagirl> Melissa2012, it may take a while...
[01:20] <Melissa2012> :(
[01:21] <Melissa2012> we talking hours?
[01:21] <fokkle> bo:  so you don't have 150GB unallocated, but need to shrink something....  in that case, they're certainly right.  just download the iso for gparted and do the shrinking from the livecd.
[01:21] <lalagirl> Melissa2012 probably
[01:21] <lalagirl> Melissa2012 some people reported that it took hours … is there a way you can skip it?
[01:21] <fokkle> bo: it'll be much safer than trying to resize while your existing system is running.
[01:21] <bo> ah ok
[01:21] <Melissa2012> lalagirl: no its' OK it finisghed wiping and now is contiuong the install :)
[01:22] <dr_willis> gparted has its own live-cd that just does gparted. makes it small download. and quick to boot.
[01:22] <Melissa2012> I have a laptop with a Nivida video card.  how I install the drivers for the video card?
[01:22] <lalagirl> Melissa2012 okay, that's great! nice. you're installing Ubuntu 11.10?
[01:22] <Melissa2012> lalagirl: the latest
[01:22] <Melissa2012> lalagirl: just downloaded it today
[01:22] <lalagirl> Melissa2012 you can install the drivers after Ubuntu is finished installing
[01:22] <bo> fokkle: ...but for example, on # 3, there is 195 GB (it is extended) and i am not using that (but it shows up)
[01:22] <lalagirl> Melissa2012 i'll show you how when you're done installing Ubuntu
[01:22] <Melissa2012> lalagirl: how do I install the nvidia video drivers afterwards?
[01:22] <shankysv87> doesn't seem like anyone is currently online in #winehq so asking in here...
[01:22] <downloader> Shouldn't girls be doing something else on Friday night?
[01:23] <Melissa2012> lalagirl: ok :-)
[01:23] <Melissa2012> lalagirl: you going to be on for awhile?
[01:23] <lalagirl> Melissa2012 you basically go to the software center and download this package that will allow you to use Nvidia graphics technology
[01:23] <shankysv87> programs refuse to stay open after installation...
[01:23] <Melissa2012> downloader: lalagirl and I are having a girls night out, installing ubuntu :-)
[01:23] <lalagirl> Melissa2012 I'll be here for a little while
[01:23] <Melissa2012> lalagirl: cool brb
[01:23] <lalagirl> Melissa2012 okay :)
[01:23] <shankysv87> they install just fine but then as soon as i try to open them, they close immediately after
[01:24] <eggman2001> what command can I use to view a log file, but if I want to start at the end?
[01:24] <bo> fokkle: so couldn't i just move the 3rd partition to sda5 using sudo parted?
[01:24] <ryan_8432> i have a agateway ma7 and i recently installed ubuntu 11.10 and my wireless isnt being recognized by ubuntu but the wireless light on my laptop is on.
[01:24] <lalagirl> downloader we're an inteligent female species… we can do whatever we want on Friday night
[01:24] <lalagirl> downloader *wink*
[01:25] <thomedy> okay im googling... but i quit... im officially asking... please someon walk me through the process of setting up my wireless again
[01:25] <Melissa2012> lalagirl: that was quick, it's installed already and now rebooting.
[01:25] <bo> lalagirl: how is "intelligent" related to being female (in the context of what u do tonight)
[01:26] <bazhang> lalagirl, thats enough.
[01:26] <lalagirl> bazhang what's enough?
[01:26] <DrPenguin> ubuntu using female? now I needs me one of them.. thomedy what is your problem?
[01:26] <bazhang> lalagirl, the offtopic chit chat is not for here.
[01:26] <bo> lol @ drpenguin
[01:27] <thomedy>  well i will say the macro then try to work it to the micro... macro: stumped, frustrated, and ill equipped, micro:
[01:27] <thomedy> i have a wireless that was set up
[01:27] <thomedy> but it turned itself off
[01:27] <thomedy> and i tried googling and fixing it... i cant find much
[01:27] <thomedy> that is working at least
[01:28] <lalagirl> bazhang if you really have something against me, you don't have to express it openly. you can send a private message instead
[01:28] <thomedy> i can toggle ifconfig down/up
[01:28] <Melissa2012> lalagirl: ok its finished, whats next? :)
[01:28] <thomedy> and get my scan back on iwlist scan but it turns itself off again
[01:28] <thomedy> sometimes almost immediately
[01:28] <DrPenguin> thomedy: have ya looked at dmesg to see whats going on?
[01:29] <thomedy> i will do taht now i  have never tryied that one sec please
[01:29] <ryan_8432> how do i figure out why ubuntu isnt detecting my wireless card?
[01:29] <thomedy> woh thats big what did i just do error logging of some sort
[01:30] <DrPenguin> thomedy: dmesg is a command that dumps you the kernel logs
[01:30] <Melissa2012> lalagirl: I have a problem. My wireless router doesnt show up,. why?
[01:30] <thomedy> the bottom message in my dmessg says addrconf(netdev_up) wlan0 link is not ready
[01:31] <shankysv87> ryan_8432, might want to check to see if its loading the drivers... i had that problem a while back.
[01:31] <DrPenguin> can ya pastebin your dmesg?
[01:31] <ryan_8432> shankysv87, how do i check that?
[01:31] <thomedy> i wish... the machine is not connected ata ll
[01:32] <shankysv87> i have to check. give me a minute to look. I'm rather new to linux myself...
[01:32] <thomedy> okay it says deathenticating from (add) by local choice reason=3
[01:32] <thomedy> im going to see what i can find on that
[01:32] <shankysv87> ryan_8432, have terminal open?
[01:32] <thomedy> i think taht might be key and it is the log right above the last
[01:33] <Melissa2012> i found my wireless router, connected, but ubuntu keeps saying it's been disconnected :(
[01:33] <bo> is anybody familiar with using sudo parted to reallocate partition space?
[01:33] <SamplingSunday> I am running ubuntu 10.04 and am trying to install a new graphics driver. But, I need to uninstall a old graphics driver to do this? How do I do this? Google has failed me. :(
[01:34] <bo> i was thinking about moving space from an extended partition to the one that i am running 9.10 on
[01:34] <dr_willis> SamplingSunday:  tell the channel  what drivers, what card, what have you tried
[01:37] <Melissa2012> i cant connect properly to my wireless router.  Is the wireless in ubuntu buggy?
[01:37] <brandon> I wouldn't say so, it works fine for me.
[01:37] <Melissa2012> my windows laptop can connect no problems but when I try ubuntu it fails
[01:38] <brandon> hmm, I'm a newb at all this so you should probably ignore me lol
[01:38] <mongy> good luck men with your ardous task...  I'm to bed.
[01:38] <SamplingSunday> dr_willis: The driver I am trying to install is the proprietary ati-driver 11-12-x86.x86_64, it is for a radeon hd 5450.  The driver I need to uninstall is aparently an older fglrx driver.  I deactivated it from 'Administration' > 'Hardware Drivers', but that didn't work as I got the same message as before.
[01:39] <SamplingSunday> I just don't know how to uninstall. :/
[01:39] <mongy> SamplingSunday: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide#Removing_Catalyst.2Ffglrx then see http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide#Installing_Catalyst_Manually_.28from_AMD.2FATI.27s_site.29
[01:40] <SamplingSunday> Thank you mongy! :D
[01:40] <SamplingSunday> My google-foo is off pretty bad if I couldn't find that. >.<
[01:41] <mongy> SamplingSunday: it's pretty thorough.  just copy paste
[01:41] <SamplingSunday> awesome thank you!
[01:41] <dr_willis> copy, paste, pray
[01:41] <SamplingSunday> lol pretty much
[01:41] <Melissa2012> it seems wireless is buggy. I tried 8-9 times to connect to wireless router before it finally connected
[01:44] <Melissa2012> i told it to install flash support at install, but flash dont work
[01:44] <dr_willis> how did you install flash?
[01:46] <Melissa2012> dr_willis: when i did a brand new install, it asked me if I wanted to select flash mp3 support and I chose yes
[01:47] <dr_willis> Melissa2012:  that works for me.. :) but often flash can be flakey on some sites.
[01:48] <Melissa2012> dr_willis: firefox claims I need flash, so what do I do?
[01:49] <Kiten> Melissa2012, in terminal sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer (i think lemme check)
[01:49] <Kiten> yeah thats it
[01:50] <benn> talking about flash, how can i find the flash files in .mozzila/firefox/xxxx.default/cache? fast?
[01:50] <benn> not video files
[01:50] <benn> i mean video files
[01:50] <Kiten> or go to youtube in firefox and when it prompts you to install plugins click it
[01:50] <benn> flv's
[01:50] <Kiten> benn :P made your mind up yet ?
[01:51] <benn> Kiten
[01:51] <benn> i did but..
[01:51] <Melissa2012> how do u reboot?  no reboot anywhere?  only shut down, hibernate etc
[01:51] <Melissa2012> Kiten: ty
[01:51] <Kiten> Melissa2012, there is a power icon in the top right corner
[01:51] <Kiten> if it doesn't show up
[01:51] <benn> i want the real flv files that videos produce in tmp from players in firefox
[01:51] <Kiten> Applications->Accessories->terminal and type sudo reboot
[01:52] <itaylor57> Melissa2012, chose shutdown and a reboot button will appear
[01:52] <Melissa2012> Kiten: yes and it only shows suspend, hibernate and shut down, but no reoobt
[01:52] <Melissa2012> itaylor57: ok weird :P
[01:52] <Kiten> then choose shutdown it should ask to reboot or shutdown
[01:52] <benn> Kiten i heard first there where in Filesystem/tmp but after the old flash 10 they where moved in firefox cache.. but i cant find them
[01:53] <Kiten> benn give me a sec i'm a bit rusty at find
[01:53] <lalagirl> Hello.
[01:53] <Melissa2012> Kiten: where do I type?
[01:53] <Kiten> in terminal ?
[01:53] <Melissa2012> where is terminal?
[01:54] <Kiten> goto applications then under accesories then click terminal
[01:54] <smitherwick> Hey lala
[01:54] <Kiten> applications is in the top left corner
[01:54] <Melissa2012> Kiten: nope. only dash home
[01:54] <Melissa2012> no aaplications
[01:55] <Kiten> Melissa2012, 11.04 ?
[01:55] <benn> Kin dash home search terminals
[01:55] <lalagirl> Melissa2012 press CTRL+ALT+T for terminal
[01:55] <Melissa2012> Kiten: trhe latest
[01:55] <Melissa2012> lalagirl: ok
[01:55] <benn> Kiten a second past
[01:55] <Kiten> benn :P one minute bud i'm looking
[01:56] <benn> sure
[01:57] <Vilemaxim> I accidentally killed a partition table using parted mklabel gpt. It warned me, but I thought I was pointing to a different drive. Anyway, anyone know the changes of recovery the original partition table?
[01:58] <Ologn> Vilemaxim: A file system usually contains multiple superblocks
[01:59] <Kiten> benn give me a minute installing a faster method :P
[01:59] <Vilemaxim> I didn't mess with the filesystems, but I'm not sure what gpt does to a disk compared to the old system
[01:59] <benn> Kiten:Awesome
[01:59] <benn> Kiten:Will you use a script?
[02:00] <Kiten> gnome-do
[02:00] <Kiten> :P super fast searching
[02:00] <benn> Kiten:lemmi check
[02:01] <Kiten> uhhm well i can't seem to find any
[02:01] <benn> ahha its difficult
[02:01] <Kiten> you sure they still store locally
[02:02] <Kiten> are you wanting to download videos ?
[02:02] <Kiten> err get videos
[02:02] <benn> since it stream..it must store it somethere
[02:02] <benn> somewhere*
[02:02] <Kiten> it caches parts at a time
[02:03] <Kiten> so most likely it will be all .PARTS or something like that
[02:03] <benn> yeah seems so..
[02:03] <Kiten> there is a screen recorder i forgot what its called that you can use to record parts of your screen
[02:04] <benn> what is the screen recorder name
[02:04] <bazhang> !screencast | Kiten one of these?
[02:04] <benn> ok
[02:04] <benn> you forgot
[02:04] <Kiten> XvidCap should work
[02:05] <Kiten> rmd is pretty good too
[02:05] <Kiten> thanks Bazhang
[02:05] <itaylor57> Melissa2012, chose shutdown and a reboot button will appear
[02:05] <benn> hmm.. ok
[02:05] <Melissa2012> itaylor57: ok
[02:06] <benn> what is the best lunix video editor?
[02:06] <pangolin> !best
[02:06] <bazhang> benn, there is not best
[02:07] <Kiten> benn i'd recommend pitivi
[02:07] <benn> ok okay
[02:07] <kristianpaul> Hello
[02:07] <benn> thanks
[02:07] <Kiten> i would be wrong to say its the best but i definitely like it
[02:07] <Kiten> benn if your running kde kdenlive is decent too
[02:07] <kristianpaul> What's the proper way to boostrap centos in ubuntu?
[02:08] <benn> yeah..
[02:08] <bo> i like pitivi and open shot... depends on what you're doing
[02:08] <benn> bo:just video trim and stuff
[02:11] <benn> Kiten:gnome-do did not work :/
[02:12] <benn> Kiten:for my need
[02:12] <Kiten> benn yeah i know thats why i said i couldn't find any
[02:13] <Kiten> couldn't find any flv's on my comp
[02:14] <benn> Kiten check this code i found
[02:14] <benn> http://pastebin.com/YzAZreu1
[02:14] <benn> did'nt manage to make it work
[02:15] <Kiten> yeah thats because thoses xxxxx are in place of alphanumerics
[02:15] <benn> i did change the xxxx
[02:15] <Kiten> i'd replace it with *
[02:16] <Kiten> * is a wildcard it can match anything even spaces
[02:16] <benn> Kiten:ohh i see
[02:16] <Kiten> first time bash ?
[02:17] <benn> sort of.. but i am not bad in it
[02:17] <DrPenguin> [ $FIRSTTIME ] && echo "Welcome!"
[02:18] <benn> lemmi test the code again
[02:18] <benn> xD
[02:21] <benn> dammit not working.. i  will try an other way maybe with screen capture
[02:22] <Kiten> rmd
[02:23] <benn> k
[02:25] <mrdeb> hello
[02:25] <benn> Kiten: i am not finding rmd(neither in apt-get install rmd or ubuntu software center)
[02:25] <eduardo> hi, how can i set my laptop to ask for a password everytime a usb device is plugged in?
[02:26] <DrPenguin> eduardo: mmm.. my first guess would be to futz with the usb udev rule
[02:26] <eduardo> DrPenguin: what's that?
[02:26] <KBentley57> hey guys, has firefox 9 been released via update-manager for ubuntu 11.10 yet?
[02:26] <pangolin> yes
[02:27] <DrPenguin> eduardo: udev is a system service that handles device changes, so, for example, you can have a udev rule for when you plug in devices that the system well perform certain actions
[02:27] <eduardo> DrPenguin: do you know how to set it up?
[02:27] <KBentley57> hmm, i can't seem to find get my update-manager to find it
[02:27] <Moon_Doggy> how can i list whats in a directory in terminal
[02:27] <KBentley57> ls or dir
[02:27] <Moon_Doggy> ty
[02:27] <nitstorm> KBentley57: i assume not...
[02:27] <DrPenguin> eduardo: via google, thats ur best bet
[02:27] <pangolin> KBentley57: it is in the proposed repo
[02:28] <nitstorm> KBentley57: click on the unity button and type update button
[02:28] <itsnotabigtruck> is it possible to install ubuntu on a running linux system (that is, load the installer entirely into ram from the filesystem, boot into it, and install)
[02:28] <nitstorm> KBentley57: I meant update manager, type update manager
[02:28] <KBentley57> nitstorm: do I need to add the repo?
[02:28] <itsnotabigtruck> the idea is to change distros on a dedicated server with KVM access, but no way to attach a cd/usb drive
[02:28] <nitstorm> KBentley57: for firefox 9 yes, you need to add the development PPA
[02:28] <pangolin> KBentley57: so, no it is not released yet but you can enable the proposed repository in software center
[02:29] <Chipzzz> KBentley57: I updated my onieric earlier today & my FF is still version 8, so I'd say probably not
[02:29] <benn> Kiten :i found the way to pick my tmp files
[02:29] <benn> Kiten :with wine and videocacheview.exe
[02:29] <KBentley57> pangolin: thanks!  just wanted to make sure I wasn't crazy.
[02:29] <pangolin> KBentley57: not completely :)
[02:30] <Kiten> benn, ahh never used videocacheview
[02:30] <KBentley57> here is the ppa for anyone who wants ff9 with 11.10
[02:30] <pangolin> KBentley57: after enabling the repos run apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[02:30] <KBentley57> http://shuffleos.com/4608/install-firefox-9-stable-release/
[02:30] <benn> yeah.
[02:30] <eduardo> DrPenguin: i didnt have any luck any other guesS?
[02:30] <DrPenguin> eduardo: googles pretty big, i doubt you exhausted your search so quickly
[02:31] <benn> i need to go now XMAS, and remember to watch Dark knight rises in summer
[02:31] <Chipzzz> eduardo: you could format the USB drives with encrypted file systems
[02:32] <Kiten> later benn
[02:32] <KBentley57> itsnotabigtruck:  can you state the reason for changing distros?
[02:32] <eduardo> Chipzzz: the thing is im a dj and i leave my laptop unsupervised for a lot of time, and i've had some trouble with ppl trying to steal my music with usb drives so i need a way to stop that
[02:33] <widow> can someone help me with a problem with clementine music player?
[02:33] <KBentley57> eduardo:  lock the screen?
[02:33] <KBentley57> ask widow
[02:34] <widow> my 'tag fetcher' freezes after a second or two and i have to kill clementine
[02:34] <Chipzzz> eduardo: I think KBently57 has the right idea
[02:34] <KBentley57> how large is your library?
[02:34] <eduardo> KBentley57: my music library?
[02:35] <widow> around 50GB, but it does this even if i only select a single song
[02:35] <KBentley57> does it require internet access widow?
[02:35] <widow> yeah it does
[02:36] <KBentley57> eduardo: sorry, that was directed towards widow.  Do you think locking your screen would be sufficient?  or are you around people who troll parties wating for the dj to move :) ?
[02:36] <KBentley57> widow:  are you behind any sort of proxy?
[02:36] <wax23> hi
[02:36] <widow> KBentley57: no, nothing like that, and my internet access is fine otherwise
[02:37] <webpragmatist> hey guys ... i'm trying to partition my vm using fdisk and it seems to be limited to 1044 cylinders?
[02:37] <webpragmatist> this doesn't equate to 8gb
[02:37] <KBentley57> widow:  do you know the host that it is trying to reach?  can you ping it from the terminal?
[02:38] <eduardo> KBentley57: yeah locking the screen is fine it's just that i used to have the password popped when plugging a usb before but i can remember how to set it up again :/
[02:38] <wax23> i want fine someone who can told me how to get ip of someone in discussion
[02:38] <wax23> hi eduardo
[02:39] <KBentley57> eduardo:  so you used to have it set where you required a password to use a usb device?
[02:39] <KBentley57> whois wax23
[02:39] <webpragmatist> http://cl.ly/172Y1J3h1L2l1m1i2Y2w
[02:39] <KBentley57> or right click on their name
[02:39] <eduardo> KBentley57: yes
[02:39] <eduardo> KBentley57: usb flash memories
[02:40] <wax23> its sudo su eduardo
[02:40] <widow> KBentley57: it tries to access MusicBrainz which i can access fine outside of clementine
[02:40] <eduardo> wax23: ??
[02:40] <wax23> the pass is sudo su
[02:40] <KBentley57> eduardo:  I did a quick google.  read over this and tell me if it is something like what you were wanting
[02:40] <KBentley57> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1467629
[02:41] <KBentley57> the pass is sudo su?
[02:41] <wax23> yes try
[02:41] <wax23> if its not try toor
[02:41] <widow> whois widow
[02:45] <_rb_> twice I have installed ubuntu 11.10 which installs ok but after I apply the updates then I get an uncompression error, system halted. Any ideas?
[02:45] <widow> google the exact error message
[02:46] <Resistance> !google | widow
[02:47] <SamplingSunday> Hi everyone, I'm back, I followed this guide http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Lucid_Installation_Guide#Installing_the_drivers_manually in which everything works just fine, until I get to 'Generic Congiure' and I get a message telling me it does not recognize the 'aticonfig' command. What am I doing wrong here?
[02:47] <KBentley57> _rb_  can you provide a list of the hardware you are trying to install it on?
[02:47] <freenodiz> hello!I have ubuntu as a desktop and now i have a ubuntu lucid 10.04 server.Question:what should i do to "remotely connect"?do i have to install x server?any special config?
[02:48] <Resistance> freenodiz:  install openssh-server on the server.
[02:48] <SamplingSunday> Everything installed just fine in the guide.
[02:48] <Resistance> freenodiz:  then ssh in
[02:48] <KBentley57> SamplingSunday:  did you try to install the latest driver from ati?
[02:48] <SamplingSunday> yes
[02:48] <freenodiz> Resistance:only this?
[02:48] <_rb_> KBentley57 It is a Sony VAIO (VGC-JS110J). BTW going back to previous versions works but Firefox does not.Installing Chromium now
[02:49] <SamplingSunday> KBentley57: yes that is what I am trying to do
[02:49] <KBentley57> SamplingSunday:  Did you first uninstall the prior fglrx driver?
[02:49] <Resistance> freenodiz:  that'll allow you to interact via command line to the remote server.  most server installations dont have GUIs
[02:49] <Resistance> just because
[02:49] <SamplingSunday> I followed the guide, and I ~sort of sure~ it uninstalled. :<
[02:50] <ariel`> does anybody know hot to create a zip file in ubuntu
[02:50] <Resistance> SamplingSunday:  might i recommend you prefix the destination of your message with the target's username, like i did with this message?
[02:50] <Resistance> !zip
[02:50] <freenodiz> Resistance,i know to ssh..i just asking exactly to install the gui in the server,and acess gnome remotelly
[02:50] <wax23> where is hacker s ubuntu
[02:50] <freenodiz> gnome desktop
[02:51] <KBentley57> SamplingSunday:  Read the top part of the release notes from amd http://tinyurl.com/6q8zkjn
[02:51] <KBentley57> SamplingSunday:  It has always worked for me.  I don't create distro specific packages, I always do the generic install too
[02:51] <SamplingSunday> Resistance: Sorry about that. And thank you KBentley57. :D
[02:52] <freenodiz> Resistance,do you understand what i;m trying to achive?
[02:52] <Chipzzz> freenodiz: you can use "ssh -X [address]" to run X-server programs remotely
[02:52] <KBentley57> Updating AMD's drivers routinely makes me nervous..lol
[02:53] <mrdeb> kbent, do u use the free or amd driver
[02:53] <Resistance> freenodiz:  i understand, but ssh can do most of what you need.  you just need to learn commands.  and if you're installing a GUI, i cant  help ya unfortunately
[02:53] <KBentley57> SamplingSunday:  If at some point you feel like something is botched, you can always hit CTRL+ALT+F1 to get to a text login
[02:53] <KBentley57> i always use the amd binary blob
[02:53] <freenodiz>  <Chipzzz> ,any good links how to do this step by step?  use "ssh -X [address]"
[02:53] <mrdeb> is it stable now bentley
[02:53] <KBentley57> yeah, i haven't had any problems with it
[02:54] <mrdeb> ok
[02:54] <mrdeb> so screen has no lines
[02:54] <KBentley57> well, I can say that my screen doesent
[02:54] <KBentley57> what card are you using?
[02:55] <Chipzzz> freenodiz: fr'instance, to access nautilus on a machine in the local net, you might type "ssh -X 192.168.100.2", assuming that is the address of the machine
[02:55] <mrdeb> idk but last time i tried it was lines across and freezing
[02:55] <Chipzzz> freenodiz: once logged on, just type "nautilus" and it will pop up on the remote machine
[02:56] <KBentley57> can you remember what version you tried?
[02:56] <mrdeb> no
[02:56] <eiriksvin> Can someone help me get my Netgear WNDA3100 USB Wifi adapter working? I have ndis and the driver installed, but nothing
[02:57] <freenodiz> Chipzzz,what about the server,should i have to install x in the lucid server?also,could i use openbox instead of gnome?any issues?
[02:57] <vmangudi`> freenodiz: you can also open a remote system's folder directly in Nautilus. Open ssh://<ip or url>/folder
[02:57] <eiriksvin> it gave and install error that was blank, it shows the device, but the lights won't light up anypne got a clue?
[02:58] <KBentley57> eiriksvin:  check this out, not sure if it is for you, but i found it in the first few of a search http://www.iheartubuntu.com/2010/10/netgear-wnda3100-usb-in-ubuntu.html
[02:58] <itsnotabigtruck> KBentley57: re the distro change thing, to go from debian i386 to ubuntu amd64
[02:59] <itsnotabigtruck> i think the provider might charge a fee for having them reimage it, so it would be better to try and reimage the disk online
[02:59] <KBentley57> itsnotabigtruck:  I see.  As far as i know, there is no way to upgrade to 64 bit from x86.  Also, I dont think you can mount the image in ram and have it survive a reboot
[02:59] <freenodiz> Chipzzz,thanks for the info mate..it sounds good to do it
[02:59] <Chipzzz> freenodiz: freenodiz: the ssh server has to be installed on target machine but the client should already be installed on the remote (assuming it is also Ubuntu). I don't know about openbox but have used  NX with great success
[03:00] <KBentley57> itsnotabigtruck:  Just out of curiosity, is there a technical reason you wish to change distros?
[03:00] <Chipzzz> freenodiz: my pleasure & good luck
[03:00] <itsnotabigtruck> KBentley57: yeah, mostly because debian squeeze is ancient, and the system has 4 gigs of ram so i386 won't cut it
[03:00] <freenodiz> Chipzzz ++
[03:00] <itsnotabigtruck> i was under the impression there's some way to load a kernel image, from a running installation
[03:00] <KBentley57> itsnotabigtruck:  does it have a pae kernel?
[03:01] <itsnotabigtruck> not sure but that could be changed, though i'm under the impression pae is more than a bit limited
[03:01] <_rb_> _rb_ After applying updates to Ubuntu 11.10 64 bit I get uncompression error when trying to boot normal or recovery mode. (Previous versions boots up but Firefox does not work)
[03:02] <KBentley57> _rb_ it sounds like it's downloading a currupted file of some sort
[03:02] <KBentley57> _rb_:  you said it was a clean install?
[03:03] <mfroes> i am trying to start an app on a vnc session by using " DISPLAY=:1 path/to/app" and i get this error: http://pastebin.com/LvEdKZNR
[03:03] <_rb_> Kventley57 clean install both times.
[03:03] <bo> i was trying to remove a partition (3rd partition) from command line in sudo parted and it said i must unmount it before i modify it with Parted... so then i tried to figure out where it is mounted so that i can unmount it but could not find it... any help please?
[03:03] <_rb_> KBentley57 clean install both times.
[03:03] <KBentley57> bo:  check out /dev
[03:03] <fokkle> bo:  you never found the mount point with the mount command?
[03:04] <mrdeb> kbent what card do u have
[03:04] <karol_> hey
[03:04] <KBentley57> _rb_:  did the update try to install a different kernel?
[03:04] <_rb_> KBentley57 would a messed up grub cause that error?
[03:04] <KBentley57> I had two 4870's in xfire, but I just got a 6970 for christams, it's sweet
[03:05] <bo> kbentley57: how to check out /dev?
[03:05] <_rb_> kbentley57 no, am thinking about installing 10 LTS.
[03:05] <KBentley57> bo: navigate to /dev and do a ls or dir listing
[03:05] <bo> ok thanks
[03:06] <KBentley57> _rb_: so you can at least boot to the grub menu where you can choose normal boot or the recovery?
[03:06] <Guest16105> I am having problems with dovecot on ubuntu.   Apparently there is a bug report.
[03:06] <eiriksvin> KBentley57 still no go :(
[03:06] <eduardo> hi, does anyone knows how to protect usb ports with password?
[03:06] <Guest16105> the current shipping version is 2.0.   Supposidly it will be fixed in 2.1.
[03:07] <Chipzzz> bo "df" will probably tell you what you want to know
[03:07] <Guest16105> Anyone know how to get the update?
[03:07] <_rb_> KBentley57 yes it boots to the grub menu. Normal or recovery fail with the uncompression error. Previous versions boots Ubunt (Where I am now)
[03:07] <eiriksvin> does anyone know if Linksys dual band works on 11.10?
[03:07] <Duker> I'm having an unusual problem I think; when running java 7 for my minecraft server (vanilla) the java process has a status of 'sleeping' and the process sits at 0% most of the time.  I've been told this is a problem with Ubuntu and I wouldn't have it with Debian.  Any suggestions on how I could solve this problem? As I am used to Ubuntu and otherwise love it.
[03:07] <KBentley57> brb
[03:08] <bo> chipzzz: including mount points?
[03:08] <bo> maybe i overlooked that
[03:09] <Chipzzz> bo: i think so... try "df -a"
[03:09] <bo> what's -a?
[03:09] <eduardo> hi, does anyone know how to protect usb ports with password? thanks!
[03:09] <Chipzzz> bo: -a = --all
[03:10] <bo> chipzzz: ok thanks
[03:10] <Chipzzz> bo: good luck
[03:10] <bo> got some thingz 2 try now as i restart from windows to linux, yet again
[03:10] <Chipzzz> bo: ouch!
[03:11] <bo> haha
[03:11] <Stanley00> eduardo: I dont know, but why do you want that?
[03:11] <robbbie> hello, i just installed ubuntu on a new pc, sound isn't working from hdmi out on video card, can anyone point me in the right direction for debugging? 11.10 64bit
[03:12] <KBentley57> robbie:  do you have a video card? or else, what motherboard do you have?
[03:12] <robbbie> KBentley57: the video card is a radeon 6450, mobo is asus m5a97
[03:13] <KBentley57> robbie:  you need to use the amd binary blob driver, not the open source driver to have audio over hdmi at the moment
[03:13] <robbbie> KBentley57: thanks, do you have a link?
[03:13] <KBentley57> robbie:  yes, one sec
[03:13] <Duker> Is there any way to force a process from ever sleeping?
[03:14] <Stanley00> Duker: force it do what? and why?
[03:14] <KBentley57> robbbie:  didn't realize there were three b's.. :)  also, http://tinyurl.com/yheqjqq
[03:15] <robbbie> KBentley57: thank you sir!
[03:15] <KBentley57> robbbie: ! before you leave, please, for the love of your god, read the release notes for instructions :)
[03:16] <Duker> Stanley: when running java 7 for my minecraft server (vanilla) the java process has a status of 'sleeping' and the process sits at 0% most of the time.
[03:16] <Duker> Even immediately after launching it with lots of CPU usage it is sleeping, then drops down to 0%
[03:17] <Chipzzz> Duker: doesn't it wake up when required to do something?
[03:17] <Stanley00> Duker: It's sleeping because it doesnot need to work,
[03:17] <Duker> It is only sleeping, many poeple will log in and it is still sleeping and lagging heavily
[03:18] <Duker> Upgraded to 11.10 and 7java  two days ago on a new machine (same mc server)
[03:18] <Duker> java 7*, sorry
[03:18] <Duker> Was the fine first 24 hours
[03:18] <Duker> Then this sleeping thing started, everything is sleeping except one process
[03:19] <milo_> Hey everybody
[03:19] <Stanley00> Duker: most of my processs is sleeping too, but anything works fine
[03:19] <Duker> Then why is it stuck at such low CPU usage
[03:19] <ADD_nauseam> anyone has its pangolin tweaked?
[03:19] <Stanley00> !pangolin
[03:20] <Chipzzz> Duker: it sounds like the lag is the problem, not the sleeping java... networking or similar problem, maybe?
[03:20] <Stanley00> Duker: I think you should check for error somewhere else, process status sleeping is just fine
[03:21] <Oer> Duker, i read Ubuntu uses java jre 6 > http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server#Ubuntu
[03:21] <Duker> Mm, so its because I'm using 7?
[03:21] <eduardo> Stanley00: to protect my data to be stolen with a usb drive
[03:21] <ADD_nauseam> a friend of mine tells me the next version will be Porcupine
[03:22] <Oer> ADD_nauseam, you have a good friend.
[03:22] <ADD_nauseam> err wh?
[03:22] <milo_> Why can't I talk on some channels? I just got the message "Milo_(channel name) cannot send to channel.
[03:22] <ADD_nauseam> why?
[03:22] <DrPenguin> milo_: are you not registered?
[03:22] <Resistance> !voice | milo_
[03:22] <Resistance> bleh oh well
[03:22] <eduardo> hi, does anyone know how to protect usb ports with password? thanks!
[03:23] <Resistance> milo_:  either your non-registered account is quieted, all unregistered people are quieted in other channels, or you personally are quieted
[03:23] <Stanley00> eduardo: Assume you can do that, somebody can use a liveUSB to stolen your data without startup your own OS,
[03:23] <Resistance> milo_:  registering your nickname can help
[03:23] <Resistance> !register | milo_
[03:23] <mrproper> how can I tell sysklogd to log local5 items to a different log file from other ones?
[03:23] <Stanley00> eduardo: so, if you want to protect your data, encrypt it,
[03:24] <milo_> DrPenguin: Registered?
[03:24] <DrPenguin> milo_: you have to register your nic to talk into some channels
[03:24] <milo_> ubottu: Thanks for the link. I'll check it out.
[03:24] <Stanley00> eduardo: or disable the usb interface in BIOS setting, but this is not recommend
[03:25] <milo_> ubottu: Haha, yeah. Me too.
[03:26] <KBentley57> milo: ubottu is not real, but it's nice that you're sincere :)
[03:27] <milo_> KBentley57: Oh what really? Ha. It's like those answering machines where you think you're talking to somebody and you talk then they get you.
[03:27] <Chipzzz> eduardo: I saw a link to ubuntu forums earlier about password protecting mounts... didn't that work?
[03:27] <KBentley57> milo_: haha, I've done it before myself
[03:27] <eduardo> Stanley00: using liveusb takes more time and a regular pc user wont know how to do that
[03:27] <eduardo> Chipzzz: no :S
[03:28] <milo_> ubottu: Are you really a bot? I don't believe you.
[03:28] <KBentley57> eduardo:  did you try the link that I sent you?
[03:28] <milo_> I guess so.
[03:28] <bazhang> milo_, thats enough
[03:28] <pangolin> !bot | milo_
[03:28] <bazhang> chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic milo_
[03:29] <KBentley57> eduardo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1467629
[03:29] <milo_> bazhang: Ok. Hey, do you know how I can get my wifi working?
[03:30] <KBentley57> milo_: what wireless hardware? Integrated, usb, ect..
[03:30] <Lucas3677> hi guys I'm trying to use sed to do a regex match. I've gotten it to pick out the string I want on the line, but I want it to work on multi-line:
[03:30] <Lucas3677> ifconfig vmnet1 | sed 's/.*inet \(.*\) netmask.*/\1/'
[03:31] <Chr|s> anyone ever have an error when opening up your home folder "The Folder Could not be opened: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken."
[03:31] <Stanley00> eduardo: well, if so, I think you just setup your password, chmod all your file to 700, and when you have to left youe pc, just sleep, or run screen lock
[03:31] <Duker> What command would I use to uninstall java 7?
[03:32] <eduardo> Stanley00: or just set a password to usb ports ;)
[03:32] <almoxarife> Duker: how did you install it?
[03:32] <KBentley57> Duker:  Just use synaptic to completely remove it
[03:32] <Duker> Ah right
[03:32] <Duker> Sorry xD
[03:33] <Chipzzz> eduardo: did you install mount manager?
[03:33] <KBentley57> Duker:  If you know the exact name, you could do an apt-get purge, but synaptic is still easier
[03:34] <AlexForce22> hello anyone here
[03:34] <AlexForce22> Need some advice
[03:34] <DrPenguin> no one is here
[03:35] <Chipzzz> i'm not here too
[03:35] <KBentley57> ni am i
[03:35] <eduardo> Chipzzz: yes
[03:35] <KBentley57> haha, my advice is free all night long.  whats up?
[03:35] <milo_> KBentley57: it's a broadcom built into (integrated?) my dell laptop.
[03:36] <KBentley57> milo_: can you find the model using the lspci command?
[03:38] <Kiten> milo_, i'm going to try to help you through this pretty bad mess here i used to have an hp that had broadcom wifi
[03:38] <milo_> KBentley57: Ok, yeah it's a BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY , I've been struggling with this for weeks now. Which is funny because I installed Ubuntu a while ago and got it working right away. Haven't been able to reproduce those results.
[03:39] <milo_> kiten: Oh sweet, thanks! This irc rox.
[03:39] <Kiten> milo_, 9.04 will work out of the box i think or might be 9.10.
[03:39] <Kiten> any how your going to need to install ndiswrapper
[03:40] <Kiten> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper
[03:40] <Chipzzz> eduardo: do you have policy-kit-gnome installed?
[03:40] <KBentley57> milo_:  check this link too when you get a chance
[03:40] <Kiten> then your going to need to download the windows drivers for your chip which you said you had a dell so dell has excellent driver saving powers ;p
[03:40] <KBentley57> milo_: http://tinyurl.com/y9gmacw
[03:41] <milo_> Kiten: "E: Unable to locate package ndiswrapper" I'm running Kubuntu by the way, in case that helps.
[03:41] <Kiten> ahh
[03:41] <Kiten> one sec
[03:41] <aspir3x> net
[03:41] <KBentley57> search synaptic for that, it should find it easily
[03:41] <KBentley57> or the software center
[03:42] <Kiten> apt-get install ndiswrapper-common ndisgtk ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[03:42] <Chipzzz> eduardo: sorry, it's policykit-gnome
[03:42] <Kiten> milo_, sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common ndisgtk ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[03:43] <milo_> KBentley: muon software center is having issues. I tried to reinstall a fresh OS but can't get a USB to work, figure out how to do it with the cd's I have or get my burning software to work. Might be somebody in my place messing with my comp.
[03:43] <KBentley57> do you have synaptic installed?
[03:43] <KBentley57> milo_: sudo apt-get install synaptic if you don't have it
[03:44] <Kiten> milo did you see my post ?
[03:44] <KBentley57> try kiten's way first though
[03:44] <milo_> Kiten: Ok, it worked
[03:45] <Kiten> milo you said it was a dell ?
[03:45] <milo_> Kiten: Yes sir. 1525 Sir.
[03:45] <aBound> Anybody know how I can remove Spotify?
[03:45] <Kiten> i link you to the starting process one sec
[03:45] <DrPenguin> aBound: should be able to run the uninstaller
[03:46] <aBound> DrPenguin, I'd figure the same thing in Software Center but it's giving me a reinstall option. When I click on reinstall there's no uninstall or remove option available crazy.
[03:46] <KBentley57> aBound:  compltely remove with synaptic
[03:46] <Kiten> anyone happen to know the length limit for a url here ?
[03:47] <DrPenguin> aBound: oh wait.. you didnt use the Windows binary you used the linux beta?
[03:47] <aBound> DrPenguin, I used a .deb file for it.
[03:47] <DrPenguin> the windows bin under wine works well
[03:47] <KBentley57> I use the firefox tinyurl addin, check it out, its handy
[03:47] <aBound> KBentley57, I'll try that out gotta install synaptic.
[03:47] <Kiten> it goes to about where you typed handy KBentley57
[03:48] <KBentley57> aBound:  sudo apt-get install synaptic if you don't know the command
[03:48] <KBentley57> Kiten:  it should be fine
[03:48] <Kiten> http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/19/DriversHome/NeedProductSelection
[03:48] <aBound> KBentley57, Software center. :P
[03:48] <Kiten> milo go to that link and navigate to your particular model
[03:49] <aBound> Oh boy, seems like it doesn't exist in Synaptic either.
[03:49] <Kiten> once you get there send me a  link its been awhile sense i've had the misfortune of having a broadcom chip
[03:49] <Resistance> aBound:  what're you looking for...?
[03:49] <aBound> Ahh, found it blah.
[03:49] <Resistance> :P
[03:49] <Ben64> what is a quick, easy, simple WM I can install on my server so I can manipulate windows over VNC?
[03:49] <aBound> Resistance, Am trying to uninstall Spotify.
[03:49] <Resistance> ah
[03:50] <KBentley57> Ben64: icewm works well
[03:50] <milo_> Kiten: Ha, ok thanks. I'll give it a go.
[03:50] <aBound> Thanks, synaptic worked just fine.
[03:51] <KBentley57> aBound: cool
[03:51] <Ben64> KBentley57: thanks! i tried metacity but it would install basically all of gnome. icewm wants two additional packages only
[03:51] <Romance> Hello, i am using 10.04 and i have problem with synpatic , here it is : http://pastebin.com/z3b6BNRS
[03:51] <KBentley57> Ben64:  I use it a bit on servers too
[03:51] <Romance> *synaptic
[03:52] <Kiten> actually milo one sec it seems that broadcom actually decided to help us nix users out it may or may not work but lets try this first the other way is a PITA
[03:52] <Kiten> milo_, http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[03:52] <Kiten> lets try that first the other way is a just a real pain to do
[03:53] <Kiten> i didn't have the option to use this last time i had my broadcom chip
[03:54] <KBentley57> Romance:  Are you trying to install libreoffice?
[03:54] <aBound> Hooray!! For ubuntu.
[03:55] <koffeehauser> Test 1 2
[03:55] <Romance> KBentley57 : i had libreoffice already , installed months ago
[03:56] <KBentley57> Romance: ok, just making sure since it was in the pastebin
[03:56] <Kiten> milo_, according to broadcom ubuntu has a copy of the drivers in the repo
[03:56] <Romance> aight
[03:57] <koffeehauser> Broadcom sucks, I could never get them out of the box on older versions
[03:57] <Weems> having a broken packages problem:  uwsgi-core : Depends: libzmq0 but it is not installable
[03:57] <koffeehauser> Linuxmint still hates my broadcom
[03:57] <milo_> Kiten: Ok. Still haven't got the hang of repos yet. Should I download the Linux sta driver?
[03:58] <milo_> koffeehauser: Yeah, broadcom is infamous for not working with Linux it seems...
[03:58] <aBound> koffeehauser, Did ya ever try to install the broadcom driver?
[03:59] <Kiten> milo_, try sudo apt-get install broadcom-sta-common
[03:59] <koffeehauser> aBound you have to be online to install a driver to connect to enet. ;)
[03:59] <Kiten>  milo_you know how  use the terminal right ?
[04:00] <aBound> koffeehauser, I know I was talking to somebody the other day about that. Are you the one with the broken ethernet port?
[04:00] <koffeehauser> And in those days I was sharing a router with my neighbour, so couldnt just go lan
[04:00] <dr_willis> 100foot of cat5 :)
[04:00] <Kiten> milo_, yeah don't be suprised if your wifi craps randomly happened to me all the time
[04:01] <koffeehauser> aBound nah im okay now, was just recalling my xp with broadcom
[04:01] <milo_> Kiten: Yeah, I know how to open it, logged a few hours. What are repos exactly? Are they part of the system or online?
[04:01] <dr_willis> !repo
[04:01] <Kiten> its in the default ubuntu repos
[04:01] <Kiten> just type sudo apt-get install broadcom-sta-common
[04:01] <Romance> why ppa.launchpad.net always give me error like 404 when update.. dang
[04:02] <aBound> koffeehauser, I would say grab the driver package from your XP box. But figures you'd need a Net connection to install the package. You could also build/compile the broadcom driver from source.
[04:02] <milo_> Kiten: I had it working perfectly before! I had Ubunutu 10.something and I used the same disk, then had problems with it dropping...
[04:02] <milo_> Kiten: "ldconfig deferred processing now taking place"
[04:03] <Kiten> yeah did you upgrade ? there was one buntu that it working perfectly with but if you updated with update manager it blacklisted the module
[04:03] <Kiten> milo_, yeah thats normal
[04:03] <Romance> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/librecad-dev/librecad-daily/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found <-- i hate this *libre* thing, first libreoffice now librecad .. LIBRE sux... any solution?  i want to get rid off this libre retarded thing
[04:03] <Kiten> ldconfig is just it caching if i recall correctly
[04:04] <Kiten> Romance go back to openOffice
[04:04] <Kiten> ;P
[04:04] <Kiten> I don't like Libre thats why i'm not running 11.04 or 11.10
[04:05] <Kiten> that and i don't like unity
[04:05] <Romance> Kiten, i used to have openoffice, i forget maybe i did install libreoffice and it overwritten and get rid the openoffice ( i didnt even uninstall openoffice ) .. Libre is sux
[04:05] <Kiten> yeah Romance you know how to get to terminal ?
[04:05] <aBound> I don't mind Unity.
[04:05] <aBound> :P
[04:05] <Romance> and next Kiten
[04:05] <Kiten> sudo apt-get remove libreoffice
[04:06] <Kiten> actually better sudo apt-get purge libreoffice
[04:06] <aBound> Keyboard shortcut to terminal: Ctrl-Alt-T to open a terminal
[04:06] <Kiten> milo_, you there /
[04:06] <Kiten> *?
[04:06] <andygraybeal> yay for ctrl-alt-t : )
[04:06] <Romance> great! the joy of the day, finally i get rid off this libresux
[04:06] <KBentley57> Actually, I don't mind unity either.
[04:07] <milo_> Kiten: Sorry. Ok, what do I do now?
[04:07] <KingSphinx> Is there a way to make ISO images of CDs in Ubuntu? I'm trying to make an ISO copy of an old Windows 98 disc I have so I can run it in VirtualBox (I know I can just use the disc itself, but an ISO is much faster). Unfortunately, I don't think Brasero offers a direct option. Would I have to add all files/directories on the CD to a data project in Brasero or is there a simpler way?
[04:07] <KBentley57> use vanilla gnome 3 for a few days and you'll love unity..lol
[04:07] <andygraybeal> aBound, KBentley57: i likes unity too :)
[04:07] <aBound> hehe
[04:07] <escott> KingSphinx, you just dd /dev/cdrom out to a file
[04:07] <aBound> I actually prefer the simplicity why make life more complicated?
[04:07] <Kiten> in terminal " modprobe -l | grep wl
[04:07] <Kiten> "
[04:08] <KBentley57> are librecad and libreoffice even related?
[04:08] <aBound> KBentley57, Awesome wallpapers www.interfacelift.com
[04:08] <diego> Hey guys!
[04:08] <almoxarife> KingSphinx: do you have brasero installed?
[04:08] <aBound> andygraybeal, By the way thanks.
[04:08] <Romance> Ok, another error happened, i open the update manager and here it goes --> 'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.'
[04:09] <benn> help my own .ls file is not working because of premission denied
[04:09] <benn> how do i unlock the file
[04:09] <Romance> benn chmod +x file
[04:09] <benn> BIG THANKS
[04:09] <benn> Romance
[04:09] <Romance> in terminal
[04:09] <Romance> aight
[04:09] <KBentley57> aBound: those are pretty sweet
[04:09] <andygraybeal> aBound,  :)  your welcome. i'm tired of listenign to people whine so much also (secondly of course)
[04:09] <Kiten> hmm romance have you tried using synaptic ?
[04:10] <Romance> hold
[04:10] <Kiten> milo_, did you see my post ?
[04:10] <milo_> Kiten: Ok done.
[04:10] <Romance> same happened Kiten
[04:10] <Kiten> milo_, you get any matches in kernel/drivers/net/wireless ?
[04:11] <benn> Kiten:Still no cache found
[04:11] <Kiten> well if you really want to get rid of it Romance the executable is sitting in /usr/bin/
[04:11] <KBentley57> Wellllll, time to compile a custom kernel then... haha
[04:11] <aBound> andygraybeal, I know what you mean but people are not used to change. Other than that all the hard work they put into customizing their desktops.
[04:11] <Kiten> benn i forgot what your earlier problem was could you remind me ?
[04:11] <milo_> Kiten: nothing in the list looks familiar...
[04:11] <Romance> Kiten : actually i didnt want to remove any, just want to do upgrade, but errors so much
[04:11] <benn> Kiten:lol ,about getting videos cache from mozzila folder or somewhere else
[04:12] <KBentley57> speaking of which, has anyone tested a build of the 3.2 kernel?
[04:12] <Kiten> milo_, msg me the out put of modprobe -l | grep broadcom, modprobe -l | grep bf43, modprobe -l | grep bmwl
[04:12] <Romance> benn you go to type in firefox tab --> about:cache
[04:13] <benn> Romance aready did
[04:13] <Romance> about:cache will tell you the path of your cache
[04:13] <Romance> and?
[04:13] <benn> in there there is a b c folders
[04:13] <Romance> oh forgot .mozilla is hidden
[04:13] <Romance> any . is a hide folders
[04:13] <KBentley57> CTRL+H
[04:13] <Romance> so go to Home Folder
[04:13] <KingSphinx> almoxarife: Thank you! All this time, and I only now learned how to use dd... I should be ashamed.
[04:13] <aBound> KBentley57, I previously used 12.04 Alpha 1 which used the 3.2 Kernel.
[04:13] <benn> and i search for videos and i dont find them
[04:13] <Romance> and ctrl + h
[04:13] <benn> i know i know
[04:13] <benn> i am in the folder of cache
[04:13] <KBentley57> sorry :)
[04:13] <andygraybeal> aBound, yes, i didn't consider the customatization..  for work i would love go go there, but i'm afraid :P
[04:14] <KingSphinx> almoxarife: Oops, wasn't meant for you.
[04:14] <KBentley57> I usually build my *buntus from the minimal install ISO's
[04:14] <aBound> andygraybeal, To go too 12.04? :P
[04:14] <andygraybeal> aBound, well not 12.04, but unity... i would end up using failback i think
[04:14] <Romance> benn, some videos i play didnt store a cache and some do, it was fine before the all the regularly upgrades i done, now i just messed up my ubuntu lol
[04:15] <aBound> andygraybeal, Gave gnome-shell a try yet?
[04:15] <andygraybeal> aBound, i don't want all the people at work to go balistic
[04:15] <milo_> Kiten: There's no output
[04:15] <aBound> Unity is pretty easy to use combine it with the synapse app and you're golden. :P
[04:15] <andygraybeal> aBound, no, i should install alpha right now.
[04:15] <benn> Romance:hahah
[04:15] <KingSphinx> escott: Thank you! All this time, and I only just now learn how to use dd... I should be ashamed.
[04:15] <aBound> I just changed my unity icons.
[04:15] <andygraybeal> aBound, synapse ?
[04:15] <Kiten> hmm one sec in the meantime milo run this sudo apt-get install build essentials
[04:15] <benn> Romance:yeah i heard flash 10 was easier ..just in tmp
[04:16] <aBound> andygraybeal, I used it for like two or three days. Software center takes forever to load and doesn't install anything and I had some other issues.
[04:16] <andygraybeal> aBound, aah 12.04 for now?
[04:16] <aBound> andygraybeal, Ever used gnome-do before? Synapse is a better alternative.
[04:16] <Romance> it was in tmp, now adobe ruined it up, copyrights concerns THEY SAY
[04:17] <aBound> andygraybeal, But unity does feel a bit more stable on 12.04 rather than 11.10.
[04:17] <benn> Romance:i still wonder..the video must go somewhere..Do you find your videos in firefox/profile/cache/2A?
[04:17] <andygraybeal> aBound, no i don't know 'gnome-do' :( erp... don't be mean
[04:17] <benn> Romance:i am not finding it no where
[04:17] <milo_> Kiten: "E: Package 'build' has no installation candidate"
[04:17] <aBound> andygraybeal, http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/quickly-find-search-launcher-app-synapse-ubuntu/
[04:18] <Romance> Ben64 : my cache is in /firefox/hdgix95d.default/cache
[04:18] <aBound> Launching synapse is as easy as pressing: ctrl-space to launch it.
[04:18] <andygraybeal> aBound, so this is better than the built-in launcher?
[04:18] <Ben64> Romance: ok??
[04:18] <Romance> oh wrong
[04:18] <Romance> benn : my cache is in /firefox/hdgix95d.default/cache
[04:18] <benn> Romance:mine in .mozilla/firefox/zr07ca2u.default/Cache
[04:18] <benn> Romance:i am not finding it
[04:19] <benn> Romance:the video
[04:19] <Romance> if you CLOSE a video, it will just go?
[04:19] <benn> Romance:but i have it streamed and it is opened in my firefox in youtube
[04:19] <benn> Romance:Flash version 11
[04:20] <Romance> benn : yes i had the same issue, some videos on youtube store cache and some dont, i dont know why
[04:20] <Kiten> milo_, whoops sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[04:20] <benn> Romance:ok
[04:20] <aBound> andygraybeal, As in lenses for unity? I prefer it overall.
[04:20] <andygraybeal> aBound, lenses they are called?
[04:20] <andygraybeal> aBound, like the alt-f2 ?
[04:21] <aBound> andygraybeal, Alt-F2 tends to run a command. :P
[04:21] <Kiten> milo are you 32bit or 64 bit ?
[04:21] <Romance> Kiten : did you find my problem solution? can't find it.
[04:21] <aBound> andygraybeal, I have a ubuntu key on my laptop. :P
[04:21] <Omega11> ubuntu linux sucks i use windows 7
[04:21] <milo_> Kiten: same thing pretty much "E: Unable to locate package build-essentials"
[04:22] <andygraybeal> aBound, yes, i use alt-f2 to run everything
[04:22] <Romance> Omega11 :D
[04:22] <andygraybeal> aBound, tell me about 'lenses'
[04:22] <aBound> My ubuntu key launches Unity Lenses. Whereas ctrl-space launches synapse for me. Synapse also has more plugins.
[04:22] <Omega11> i don't like linux
[04:22] <Omega11> too hard to use
[04:22] <Romance> then go Omega11
[04:22] <benn> hahaha
[04:22] <Kiten> milo_, whoops sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:22] <andygraybeal> aaah ..'ubuntu key'
[04:22]  * KingSphinx must not feed the troll...
[04:22] <andygraybeal> sorry
[04:22] <aBound> Unity lenses is just the default launcher in Unity.
[04:22] <andygraybeal> so lenses is what that menu is called
[04:22] <Kiten> sorry milo_ i forgot its build-essential not build-essentials
[04:23] <aBound> Yes
[04:23] <andygraybeal> aBound, aab yes yes.. then :)
[04:23] <Omega11> torrents are illegal how come it says to use torrents in the topi
[04:23] <benn> Omegall:your right but..the thing is it take less memory and it does more like Autodesk Maya
[04:23] <ubluntu> Omega11: how are torrents illegal ?
[04:23] <Kiten> Omega11, torrents ARE NOT ILLEGAL
[04:23] <milo_> Kiten: Ok, that worked.
[04:23] <aBound> Synapse is just an alternative launcher.
[04:23] <Omega11> torrents are stealing stuff
[04:23] <benn> torrents are not illegal
[04:23] <benn> its sharing
[04:23] <andygraybeal> aBound, understand now!
[04:23] <ubluntu> he's just trolling. no one feed it.
[04:23] <Romance> Kiten: :(
[04:24] <benn> friends are sharing stuff to us
[04:24] <Kiten> yeah sorry milo was my bad
[04:24] <aBound> Synapse also carries plugins so it can be extended whereas lenses can't. :P
[04:24] <benn> Omegall feed my shit
[04:24] <Kiten> Romance i know i know give me a few minutes :P
[04:24] <Romance> aight kitties
[04:24] <Omega11> anyways fuck you all
[04:24] <Kiten> milo_, are you 32 bit or 64 bit ?
[04:24] <Omega11> Kiten: my windows 7 is 64 bit
[04:24] <Omega11> i love it
[04:24] <Omega11> very easy to use
[04:25] <Kiten> Omega11, muted
[04:25] <Romance> put Omega11 in ignore list
[04:25] <milo_> Kiten: 32.
[04:25] <milo_> Omega11, muted
[04:25] <andygraybeal> aBound, what is 'gnome do' ?
[04:25] <Omega11> corey the freenode op is a bitvh
[04:25] <milo_> Romance: How to mute?
[04:25] <Omega11> bitch just so you know
[04:25] <Kiten> milo /ignore nick all
[04:25] <bastidra1or> !ops | Omega11
[04:26] <aBound> andygraybeal, gnome-do is a launcher too but hasn't been updated in two years.
[04:26] <almoxarife> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME_Do
[04:26] <benn> Omegall dont get it wrong
[04:26] <benn> fuck you
[04:26] <andygraybeal> aBound, aah okay, awesome thanks man, i'm gonna loook up synapse
[04:26] <Kiten>  milo /ignore omega11 all
[04:26] <aBound> andygraybeal, No problem.
[04:26] <milo_> Kiten: Thanks! Yeah that worked.
[04:26] <Kiten> like that thats how you mute :P
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[04:27] <aBound> andygraybeal, Sometimes I'm to lazy to click on the web browser. So I use synapse to launch it. lol
[04:27] <Weems> I cannot start this service: Starting app server(s) uwsgi   [fail]
[04:27] <andygraybeal> aBound,  nice, reaching for the mouse is a stretch for me too :)
[04:27] <aBound> haha
[04:28] <milo_> Kiten: Learning is fun...hey you sent me the hybrid pacakge? There's a thing that says DCC Status with a familiar looking driver file
[04:28] <Kiten> panderiz that was a dirty trick
[04:28] <panderiz> It's just as amusing every time
[04:28] <andygraybeal> i totally love that they have integrated like 'ubuntu-key+number key' to launch apps!!!
[04:28] <milo_> Kiten: I tried the ndiswrapper, and I think it was the hybrid driver you sent that got my wifi working the first time.
[04:28] <Kiten> yeah that is the driver
[04:28] <bindi> andygraybeal: you mean the meta key? or the windows key as more commonly known
[04:29] <andygraybeal> aBound, btw, how do you have 'ubuntu key' and not 'window key' ?
[04:29] <Kiten> any how is it working now ?
[04:29] <Kiten> panderiz, i'll get you back
[04:29] <andygraybeal> bindi, totally 'windows key' :)
[04:29] <andygraybeal> i just didn't want to mention it
[04:29] <bindi> andygraybeal: that's been in windows 7 since release, btw :)
[04:29] <aBound> andygraybeal, I have a prebuilt and preconfigured www.system76.com machine. Preinstalled for ubuntu.
[04:29] <bindi> just.. saying.. :D
[04:29] <panderiz> Kiten, Reach arounds are my biggest weakness
[04:30] <andygraybeal> bindi, nice :) !!
[04:30] <milo_> panderiz: Ahaha, gross...
[04:30] <aBound> I had a few dings when I bought the machine.
[04:30] <andygraybeal> aBound, aah very nice.. i have looked at their systems
[04:30] <Kiten> milo_, is your wifi working now ?
[04:30] <Kiten> thought so :P
[04:30] <Kiten> any how download that
[04:30] <aBound> andygraybeal, I have 16GB of unnecessary RAM. :P
[04:30] <Kiten> your going to need to be in terminal for this one
[04:31] <aBound> andygraybeal, If I could take the machine back I'd get the Lemur Ultra except it might have issues with Compiz.
[04:31] <Kiten> wherever you placed that cd /place/you/put/it
[04:31] <andygraybeal> hahahah omg, nice.  i think my server at work has 12GB right now (this coming year, though upgrade to like crazy amount)
[04:31] <milo_> Kiten: downloading the driver. Not sure what to do next. I uninstalled teh Knetwork manager and downloaded Wicd. Says "bad password" and I was trying to download 1.6 instead of 1.7 to fix the problem. Will that be an issue?
[04:31] <aBound> andygraybeal, What's the OS the servers running on?
[04:31] <andygraybeal> lemur is musical control interface?
[04:32] <aBound> andygraybeal, System76 has a laptop called Lemur Ultra.
[04:32] <Kiten> milo_, tar xf hybrid-portsrc-x86_32-v5_100_82_112.tar
[04:32] <andygraybeal> aBound, don't be mean, i can't handle it well - i run 10.04 on servers.
[04:32] <w30> there are tux keys for sale on several sites Just pry off the windows key and pop the tux key on (after crawling on the floor to find the spring that went flying).
[04:32] <aBound> hehe
[04:32] <Kiten> once you've done that then type make
[04:32] <andygraybeal> aBound,  aah the lemur means different things then.
[04:32] <aBound> I'd be running Debian/FreeBSD on them machines even though my lack of Linux/BSD knowledge forbids me. lol
[04:33] <andygraybeal> aBound, my firewall was obsd, now fbsd.
[04:33] <milo_> Kiten: so I type in " tar xf hybrid-portsrc-x86_32-v5_100_82_112.tar"
[04:33] <milo_> ?
[04:33] <Kiten> yeah
[04:33] <aBound> 8GB is good enough for Ubuntu unless you're doing Blender work like 3D.
[04:33] <Kiten> are you in the directory where it was at ?
[04:33] <ubluntu> 2gb is good enough for ubuntu really...
[04:33] <ubluntu> just depends what you are going to do
[04:33] <andygraybeal> aBound, i've run bsd since ... i dunno 18 yrs ago?
[04:34] <aBound> ubluntu, I almost hit the milestone of 1GB using ubuntu. :P
[04:34] <aBound> andygraybeal, I ran it once and it ran nice, solid and stable.
[04:34] <milo_> Kiten: yeah, I'm looking at it in Dolphin
[04:34] <aBound> Eventually I may move to FreeBSD as a desktop.
[04:34] <andygraybeal> aBound, at work, i'm not smart enough to run bsd as 'userspace' - i use ltsp on 10.04, it's friggen magic + zentyal to fill in the gabs
[04:34] <andygraybeal> gaps
[04:34] <Kiten> milo_, i meant in terminal does it say your in the directory its in ?
[04:35] <andygraybeal> aBound, i would like to play with fbsd as desktop too :)
[04:35] <Kiten> milo_, type ls to list the files in that directory
[04:35] <andygraybeal> aBound, we easily consume 8GB at work, as ltsp is the work horse.. i need to upgrade the machine
[04:35] <andygraybeal> i think it upgrades to like 50someGB
[04:35] <napster> How to check if my bluetooth adapter works? I've installed blueman GUI and I get an error message "No Adapters Found"
[04:36] <aBound> andygraybeal, They have books on freebsd may have to download one of those or buy one.
[04:36] <milo_> Kiten: Oh, I missed that part. Uhm... little confused. I typed ls and it named a bunch of folders under Home I think.
[04:36] <Romance> :(
[04:36] <Kiten> milo_, where does dolphin say that file i gave is ?
[04:36] <aBound> andygraybeal, ltsp what's that?
[04:37] <aBound> andygraybeal, Always virtualbox for freebsd. :-)
[04:37] <Kiten> milo_, actually if you wanted me to do it for you i could all you'd need to do is install teamviewer
[04:37] <Kiten> that is if you trust me enough to be on your machine
[04:37] <pythonirc101> who do I restart ssh ? service ssh restart ---> restart: Unknown instance:
[04:37] <andygraybeal> ltsp = linux terminal server project... you can run like 100's of desktops off of one server
[04:37] <aBound> I still gotta learn vim.
[04:37] <andygraybeal> like mainframe and dumbterminnal setup
[04:37] <aBound> Dang that's crazy.
[04:38] <andygraybeal> ya, and they got it so it clusters too, it's totally bad ass
[04:38] <Kiten> aBound, due vim is so freaking easy man
[04:38] <milo_> Kiten: sure. I mean, my comp is probably being hacked anyway. I just need to get a video recorder for later so I know how to do it/make sure I'm not being messed with
[04:38] <Kiten> you've used teamviewer before then ?
[04:38] <aBound> Kiten, Not when it comes to being a new user. lol
[04:38] <andygraybeal> aBound,  yea, i use kvm as to vbox.. but ya.. i should vm a fbsd box sometime
[04:39] <milo_> Kiten: No, but I've had tech support use stuff to control my mouse and stuff. Guessing it's the same type of stuff. Forgot what the IT industry calls it.
[04:39] <andygraybeal> aBound,  hey, i'm gonna get on running 12.04 alphie for the hey of it
[04:39] <aBound> I'm thinking about grabbing the book for VIM.
[04:39] <Kiten> aBound, just remember that vim functions in modes when you push i that is insert you push esc to go back to 0 mode(or whatever you want to call it
[04:39] <aBound> andygraybeal, Good luck it uses a bunch of new packages which is nice.
[04:39] <Kiten> )
[04:39] <Romance> aBound : dont think, do it :)
[04:40] <aBound> Romance, lol
[04:40] <Romance> Kiten :(
[04:40] <Kiten> wait a tic teamviewer isn't in buntus repoes ??????
[04:40] <aBound> You guys more vim users or emacs users?
[04:40] <Kiten> Romance, i know i know i'll help you a tad bit
[04:40] <Kiten> Romance, you know how to use terminal right ?
[04:40] <Romance> gedit and pico :p
[04:40] <Romance> Kiten ye
[04:40] <andygraybeal> aBound,  your very nice. thank you :)
[04:40] <aBound> Kiten, Yeah but see like adding vimscripts, colored themes and configuration files confuses me. Seeing as there's not much documentation on the subject.
[04:40] <milo_> Kiten: Don't ask me about repos.
[04:41] <aBound> Man pages are too huge.
[04:41] <Kiten> romance cd /usr/bin/ rm  libreoffice
[04:41] <andygraybeal> aBound, ltsp has #ltsp :)
[04:41] <Kiten> cd /usr/share/
[04:41] <aBound> andygraybeal, No problem and welcome.
[04:41] <Kiten> rm libreoffice, cd /usr/lib/, rm -rf libreoffice
[04:42] <Kiten> aBound, yeah adding themes is kinda tough
[04:42] <Kiten> milo_, yeah i know its just shocking to think that teamviewer isn't on there
[04:42] <aBound> I want vim to be my primary editor and either nano/geany for quick edits.
[04:42] <aBound> I seen eclipse but who knows.
[04:42] <Kiten> milo_, do you know what processor your are using is ?
[04:42] <Kiten> ie amd or intel ?
[04:43] <milo_> Kiten: No, I just mean I don't know anything about repos!
[04:43] <Kiten> milo_, i know ;P lmao
[04:43] <milo_> Kiten: Oh. Ok, that went over my head then. Processor...terminal command for that?
[04:43] <aBound> I can't decide between bash or zsh.
[04:43] <MerlynKorr> hello room...
[04:43] <ubluntu> milo_: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[04:44] <Kiten> milo it should say it somewhere on your pc unless you removed the badges
[04:44] <Romance> Kiten: i dont know if libreoffice really the only issue here, " E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. "
[04:44] <milo_> Kiten: "No such file or directory"
[04:44] <Romance> still cant do update upgrade
[04:44] <Kiten> romance sudo apt-get --fix-missing
[04:44] <milo_> Kiten: Nevermind. Typed it in wrong. Did copy/paste and it worked.
[04:45] <aBound> andygraybeal, Now all we gotta do is build the next facebook. lol
[04:45] <Kiten> milo check on your pc for badges :P
[04:45] <milo_> Kiten: Intel Celeron 550 @ 2.00GHz
[04:45] <Kiten> ahh there we go
[04:45] <Kiten> never mind i was going to have you compile it but i'll just send you mind
[04:45] <Kiten> *mine
[04:45] <thomedy> please help.. i am setting up my wireless in ubuntu and im stumpped... im just stumpped
[04:46] <thomedy> i dmesg and  i get deauthenticate reason 3
[04:46] <andygraybeal> aBound,  :) nice :)
[04:46] <MerlynKorr> is there an someone that can bring some assistance about archive download files?
[04:46] <Kiten> milo when you download that make sure you rememeber where you put it mmk ?
[04:46] <thomedy> i deactivated ipv6 but no difference
[04:46] <MerlynKorr> the ark app does not seem to do the trick...
[04:46] <Romance> hold Kiten im doing sudo apt-get update --fix-missing > stupiderror.log
[04:46] <Kiten> MerlynKorr, such as ?/?? tar, gz etc ?
[04:47] <Romance> i will paste the error wait
[04:47] <milo_> Kiten: Ok. Ha, you can send it to me with your mind if that works better
[04:47] <Kiten> romance i'm sorry its just -f
[04:47] <Kiten> milo_, yeah i'm a little scatter brained right now
[04:47] <MerlynKorr> i cannot get a handle on the installation from archives the way i want
[04:47] <thomedy> is there a please set up wireless page in steps 1 2 3 and done site
[04:47] <Kiten> its like 11:47pm
[04:47] <thomedy> cuz i have done googling and and cant figure it out
[04:48] <thomedy> i dont even know what the problem is
[04:48] <MerlynKorr> the archives wont extract n such a way as to place the files in an nstallable fashion.
[04:48] <Romance> Kiten : http://pastebin.com/h0Z017Hb
[04:48] <ubluntu> MerlynKorr: are they source archives. or like .deb files ?
[04:48] <milo_> Kiten: Well you're a gangsta compared to me at this so no worries.
[04:48] <MerlynKorr> instead, t gives an error about the extraction....
[04:49] <Kiten> Romance: again sorry i shoulda read docs better, sudo apt-get check -f
[04:49] <MerlynKorr> the extraction files are of both types i believ e... yet im n ot sure, let me chack.
[04:49] <Chipzzz> thomedy: what kind of wireless adaptor?
[04:50] <Kiten> milo_, take that file please :P
[04:50] <Romance> Kiten : did it, nothing changed
[04:50] <Kiten> Romance, that did nothing ?
[04:50] <aBound> I'm so amazed at Ubuntu I can do almost everything from my desktop.
[04:50] <Romance> Kiten : yes, only showed me "Reading state information... Done"
[04:50] <milo_> Kiten: My bad. Didn't notice that. I'll keep an I out for DCC messages next time.
[04:50] <Romance> and i did update, back the same error
[04:51] <Kiten> Romance, ok try this sudo apt-get install nmap
[04:51] <Romance> i have it
[04:51] <Kiten> not that you need that package i want to know what it says when you try to install something
[04:51] <Chr|s> Anyone have any problems starting up Urban Terror? For some reason I can't get it to execute. I played this game before with ubuntu
[04:51] <MerlynKorr> now, at this point i dont have any files available, so i will wait tll i can correlate the necessary information and then get back here with it.
[04:52] <Romance> ok
[04:52] <thomedy> is there any other room with people who can help im sure this room can but the disinterest not helping however i understand i am not your responsibiltity... i just need it done
[04:52] <Kiten> milo_, navigate to where that file is in dolphin note the name at the top
[04:52] <thomedy> whoa i just realized there was help
[04:52] <Kiten> then type cd /path/that/dolphin/has/at/top
[04:52] <thomedy> im sorry my thing didn't scroll down
[04:52] <aBound> Kiten, I know this isn't ubuntu-related but how'd you learn vim?
[04:52] <Romance> Kiten : here http://pastebin.com/F6U6fyv6
[04:52] <MerlynKorr> theres no point i n trying to figure it out when there isnt anythin g to figure out, but i do have another question regarding disc uploads to cdrom./
[04:53] <milo_> Kiten: ok, I see it now >home>downloads
[04:53] <Kiten> thomedy, we are kinda slim on answerers right now we have to many askers ;p
[04:53] <Kiten> i'll get to you after i finish with milo and romance
[04:53] <Chipzzz> thomedy: what kind of adaptor are you trying to set up?
[04:53] <thomedy> my wireless adaptor is an ark500
[04:53] <thomedy> i dont know how to find adapter
[04:53] <thomedy> to get the controller/driver i lspci
[04:53] <aBound> :P
[04:53] <MerlynKorr> where there are files copied to disc it will not then reload them in any operable way...how do i overcome this/
[04:53] <thomedy> -k
[04:53] <Kiten> milo cd /home/username/Downloads
[04:54] <TBotNik> All: Having an FTP problem.  Most Linux FTP clients do not allow for linking to .ppk, .pem or .dsa key pair files and then logging in without password, via the authentication file.  I typically use FileZilla, but they say they link to Putty, so recommend opening Putty to the host machine via the authentication file method, which they say will then allow FieZilla to see the auth file in use and log in on FileZilla.  I found this only works
[04:54] <TBotNik> All: Key pair means SFTP
[04:55] <Kiten> milo_,  you ther ?
[04:55] <Kiten> *there ?
[04:55] <milo_> Kiten: yeah, having to copy/paste a lot to get things right, but I'm there
[04:55] <MerlynKorr> how does one go about beng able to upload file discs that were burned to disc from KDE Kubuntu?
[04:55] <thomedy> oh i just realized the ar5001 is my adaptor
[04:55] <Kiten> so your in /home/username/Downloads ?
[04:55] <milo_> Kiten: yeah, having to copy/paste a lot to get things right, but I'm there
[04:55] <Kiten> type ls and do you see wl.ko ?
[04:56] <MerlynKorr> because when i do that the returning them to the computer of m kne or someone elses gets errors and will not and cannot be done.
[04:56] <Romance> MerlynKorr use Brasero
[04:56] <milo_> Kiten: Yes sir. It's there.
[04:56] <Kiten> Romance /msg me the out put of a random install attempt
[04:56] <chelz> how much ram is needed for toram=yes on lucid? and later?
[04:56] <MerlynKorr> right yet when i try to reinstall the disc file then i get inoperable apps.
[04:57] <Romance> Kiten : i tried nmap and here it is http://pastebin.com/F6U6fyv6
[04:57] <Chipzzz> thomedy: have you seen this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1484924
[04:57] <Kiten> milo type "sudo modprobe lib80211 && modprobe cfg80211"
[04:57] <MerlynKorr> they will not most of the time return in operable status...
[04:58] <thomedy> okay i will look atthat in a sec but for context here is what i get
[04:58] <thomedy> i click the wifi and then i dmesg
[04:58] <Kiten> Romance your install is seriously effed
[04:58] <milo_> Kiten: "FATAL: Error inserting cfg80211 (/lib/modules/3.0.0-12-generic/kernel/net/wireless/cfg80211.ko): Operation not permitted"
[04:58] <Romance> MerlynKorr : make one specific question that is can be understood, in one line
[04:58] <thomedy> i get authenticated, associated, and then immediately deauthenticated
[04:58] <Kiten> oh man
[04:58] <thomedy> i will now get that link
[04:58] <Kiten> dang it
[04:59] <bbttvvgg> is there a simple doc or vid explaining how to set up ubuntu on ec2 that you could point me to?
[04:59] <Romance> then Kiten ? :(
[04:59] <Kiten> i didn't know you had kernel 3 milo :(
[04:59] <MerlynKorr> they give an error like " child directory...no parent directory found..."
[04:59] <benbloom> quick question: how do i delay the mounting of an nfs in fstab until the network is ready?
[04:59] <Kiten> Romance to be honest you would really be better off reinstalling but i'll try to help you through it
[04:59] <Kiten> so that you don't have to
[04:59] <Romance> benbloom : somewhere in terminal by the command mount .. try mount -h
[05:00] <Romance> aight Kiten im waiting
[05:00] <thomedy> this looks like a hilarious hack but i am going to try it right now
[05:00] <thomedy> should i be concerned that i disabled my ipv6
[05:00] <thomedy> should i reinable that
[05:00] <thomedy>  i followed a google
[05:01] <benbloom> Romance: problem is i have my nfs in /etc/fstab and it's not loading at boot but if i 'umount -a' then 'mount -a' they show up fine
[05:01] <Kiten> Romance one sec
[05:01] <Kiten> ------
[05:01] <Kiten> Go to System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[05:01] <Kiten> Choose the Broadcom STA wireless driver
[05:01] <Kiten> Activate
[05:01] <FloodBot1> Kiten: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:01] <MerlynKorr> sorry so unintelligible.
[05:01] <Kiten> sorry
[05:02] <Kiten> sorry that was supposed to be a message
[05:02] <milo_> Kiten: I'm using the new version of Kubuntu...
[05:02] <MerlynKorr> its kewl ill try some other time... you guys are buzy, lol.
[05:02] <Chipzzz> thomedy: if you found a hack at that link, you went to the wrong place... ipv6 shouldn't matter... have you tried connecting to a network that doesn't need authentication?
[05:02] <Kiten> oh man milo
[05:02] <Kiten> ok
[05:03] <subcool> Hey, i just setup a usb kubuntu- i need to fix my girls laptop, she's got some CRAZY viri on here.
[05:03] <subcool> suggestions?
[05:04] <ubluntu> subcool: clam-av ?
[05:04] <subcool> hhmm ya- the guide didnt mention that one.
[05:04] <Chipzzz> ubluntu +1
[05:04] <Kiten> Romance sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f check
[05:05] <subcool> ubluntu: whats the addy to the ubuntu guide?
[05:05] <Kiten> milo_, sudo apt-get update
[05:05] <subcool> im a google idiot
[05:05] <Romance> benbloom : hope this help, i dont know much -> http://neophyteman.wordpress.com/2010/06/06/ubuntu-10-04-boot-or-devsda-startup-mount-problem/
[05:05] <milo_> Kiten: done
[05:06] <pangolin> !guide | subcool
[05:06] <subcool> not server guide
[05:06] <pangolin> !manual
[05:06] <Levy> subcool, Referring to this guide? http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Oneiric
[05:06] <Kiten> milo_, then sudo apt-get --reinstall install bcmwl-kernel-source
[05:06] <Romance> Kiten : did it, same error :( :(
[05:06] <benbloom> i appreciate the effort Romance.
[05:06] <subcool> Levy: that workd.. thanks
[05:06] <Levy> No problem.
[05:06] <subcool> ya, i was getting .... https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/index.html
[05:07] <Levy> HA!
[05:07] <Levy> brb
[05:07] <Kiten> Romance ok your probably going to have to reinstall you've got a seriously broken installation
[05:07] <forcemp> has anyone seen an issue where your xserver crashes during various operations like file save and laptop lid closing?
[05:07] <Romance> oh my :(
[05:07] <Kiten> Romance, apt should have fix the missing dependencies
[05:07] <aBound> Ahh, it shows my name aBound in the room but ahh...
[05:08] <aBound> Oops.
[05:08] <aBound> haha
[05:08] <forcemp> I noticed that my xserve only crashes when  my dmesg reports an issue with drm at boot up.
[05:08] <Kiten> brb RR
[05:08] <Romance> how about *install manually* the missing dependencies from source code, will it help Kiten?
[05:09] <subcool> has avira rubbed anyone the wrong way?
[05:09] <subcool> i hope these fix it- but she has a crazy virus
[05:10] <subcool> its disabling me from EVERYTHING, safemode, keyboard, network connections. i had to install and setup my ubuntu usb just to bypass everything.
[05:10] <forcemp> good evening everyone, I am hoping to get some of your thoughts on why my xserver maybe crashing.
[05:11] <almoxarife> Romance: you all scritp-kiddie to accomplish what?
[05:11] <aBound> subcool, Haven't really used an antivirus for Ubuntu if that's what you're referring too.
[05:11] <subcool> aBound: no- using ubuntu to fix a Win system
[05:11] <Chipzzz> forcemp: any background on the problem? recent hardware changes, etc?
[05:11] <Romance> almoxarife?
[05:12] <aBound> subcool, Haven't tried Avira before.
[05:12] <aBound> Too bad you can't run NOD32 in it.
[05:13] <almoxarife> Romance: what was broke? to begin with?
[05:13] <Kiten> Romance, yeah you could but i'm telling its a PITA
[05:13] <Kiten> and you don't have to install from source
[05:13] <Romance> the packages almoxarife
[05:13] <Kiten> you could download from ubuntus online repos
[05:14] <almoxarife> Romance: packages, to accomplish what?
[05:14] <Romance> updates
[05:14] <forcemp> @chipzzz no the behavior has been present for quite some time through different kernel versions. I noticed that it will crash on certian operations like a file save in kate or from just closing the lid on my laptop without it going to sleep. when i look at dmesg i can see drm errors right away on boot up. But when i boot up and the errors are not present I dont have issues.
[05:14] <thomedy> okay somehow i have disabled my wireless and cant turn it back on
[05:14] <thomedy> this sucks
[05:14] <Kiten> almoxarife, http://pastebin.com/F6U6fyv6 thats what hes having
[05:14] <aBound> Alright ya'll I'm outta here have a happy new years eve. :P
[05:15] <forcemp> @abound you could browse the typical virus locations like system32
[05:15] <Chipzzz> forcemp: how old is the laptop?
[05:15] <robbbie> so i have my radeon card working now with fglrx driver, sound works over hdmi, etc image is better however the desktop does not span the full width of the monitor, i have at least a half inch bezel that i want to get rid of
[05:15] <forcemp> @chipzzz about two years. HP 6730b
[05:15] <almoxarife> Kiten: and what causes that normally?
[05:16] <Kiten> corrupt cache
[05:16] <Kiten> could be numerous things
[05:16] <ubluntu> robbbie: do an xrandr -q whats the resolution? does it match the max of the monitor ?
[05:17] <robbbie> ubluntu: res is 1920x1080 i believe thats max. it was working fine until i installed the fglrx driver from AMD, however sound wasn't working over hdmi
[05:17] <almoxarife> Kiten: how about a ppa ? broke the base system?
[05:17] <Chipzzz> forcemp: I'm suspicious of the hardware... any indication the problems may be temperature dependent?
[05:17] <forcemp> when i run #dmesg | grep -i drm i get : [  309.145225] [drm:i915_report_and_clear_eir] *ERROR* EIR stuck: 0x00000010, masking
[05:18] <ubluntu> robbbie: can you pastebin your xrandr -q ?
[05:18] <robbbie> ubluntu: sure, one sec
[05:18] <Kiten> yeah that definitely would break his cache and cause apt to freak out
[05:18] <robbbie> ubluntu: http://pastebin.com/k6NvEWbv
[05:18] <Kiten> Romance, you know how to get to your package sources ?
[05:18] <Romance> i have seen this IRC log anyway http://emc.mah.priv.at/irc/%23cam/2011-07-25.html    .. they are talking about same problem as mine, " <ries> Apparently the ppa doesn't work for 10.04, so you should remove that "
[05:19] <Kiten> wait a sec
[05:19] <Kiten> i'm on 10.04
[05:19] <Romance> "ries> you might want to coordinate that with Scott howard" .,. "<KimK> The guy with the broken ppa? The one that borked my Synaptic? "
[05:19] <Romance> get my package sources Kiten?
[05:20] <forcemp> chipzzz i have not seen any temperature events but when i login on first boot up when the drm error is present xorg is extremely slow
[05:20] <Kiten> System->Administration->Software Sources
[05:20] <rooks> for all of the unity haters, heres gnome3/gnome-classic on ubuntu11.10 dressed up to look like gnome2 on ubuntu10.10 :) just uploaded :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7xIfZZhjHo
[05:20] <Romance> aight
[05:20] <rhizmoe> "look like" is the easy part
[05:20] <Kiten> rooks, i didn't mind the new look i just didn't like that it was sort of forced
[05:20] <Chipzzz> forcemp: drm is about video processes... dust has a nasty habit of accumulating in the heat sink ducts in laptops... has the machine ever been in for repair or preventative maintenance?
[05:21] <rhizmoe> worked like crap on my graphics card
[05:21] <Kiten> Romance, did you see my post ?
[05:21] <rooks> Kiten, yeah,, so i did. that is why i did that convo, to make it sane again :P
[05:21] <almoxarife> Romance: you added a ppa recently?
[05:21] <Romance> yes Kiten, opened it
[05:21] <Romance> almoxarife guess so
[05:21] <robbbie> ubluntu: few strange things have started happening since installing the driver and running aticonfig, for example all the icons in nautilus are the same, paper icon, no folders for directories, also the workspace switcher is different when i do ctrl+alt+arrow, i have been using linux for a long time but cli only for the most part
[05:22] <almoxarife> Romance: don't guess, you did or did not, I don't have the borked system
[05:22] <Kiten> Romance, go to the other software tab and list all the items in a /msg to me
[05:22] <ubluntu> robbbie: robbbie yea that is all very weird.... it looks like it should use all of the screen. sounds like something is very wrong but I'm not really sure what it is, how did you install fglrx throuhg the gtk app ?
[05:23] <forcemp> chipzzz i had my hinge break about a year ago and hp replaced the bezel, i keep my system rather clean and can see my heat sink clear.
[05:23] <robbbie> ubluntu: i believe it was a shell script
[05:23] <Kiten> rooks, also didn't like the way it felt its definitely sleek i'll give you that much
[05:23] <Chipzzz> forcemp: so much for my theory :(
[05:24] <almoxarife> Romance: and before you go all script-kiddie on your system again, the key to your initial problem is 'ppa-purge' , then you can start again, btw, no guarantee it will work, but it's the only thing left
[05:24] <ubluntu> robbbie: I believe that the *official* way to install fglrx is through that gtk app. jockey-gtk is it?
[05:24] <robbbie> ubluntu: ati-driver-installer-11-12-x86.x86_64.run from amd
[05:24] <ubluntu> !ati
[05:25] <ubluntu> robbbie: does fglrxinfo look good ?
[05:25] <Romance> Heh
[05:26] <forcemp> chipzzz: thanks for trying. its been an annoying feature where when i log in i just run dmesg | grep -i drm  and if i see any errors i just reboot and i am good for that session.
[05:26] <Kiten> Romance, there is a chat limit bud even for /msg's
[05:26] <Romance> didnt know
[05:26] <Romance> http://pastebin.com/XwS8941e
[05:26] <Kiten> also i didn't need the random text ;p
[05:26] <Romance> :D
[05:26] <thomedy> okay now i dont have eth0 or wlan0
[05:26] <thomedy> this sucks
[05:27] <Romance> thomedy iwconfig
[05:27] <Chipzzz> forcemp: you might try reinstalling the video drivers, though, in case they've become corrupted... as I mentioned, drm is the (D)rect (R)endering (M)anager
[05:28] <thomedy> maybe i have eth0 iwconfig says no wireless extension but it shouldn't since eth0 is wired
[05:28] <forcemp> ah ok. i thought it was digital rights management. ill try to reinstall the driver. thanks
[05:28] <thomedy> however my wireless is greyed out and when i ifconfig wlan0 up
[05:28] <DrPenguin> forcemp: it is, but different context ^^
[05:28] <Chipzzz> my pleasure. good luck
[05:29] <DrPenguin> thomedy: eth0 should say no wireless extension in iwconfig
[05:29] <DrPenguin> because it isnt a wireless device
[05:29] <forcemp> thanks for clarifying dr penguin.
[05:29]  * Kiten will be back going to try something
[05:30] <DrPenguin> forcemp: no problemo
[05:30] <robbbie> ubluntu: thanks i am reinstalling it the proper way :P
[05:30] <Chr|s> Anyone here play Urban Terror or used too? having problems starting it up in ubuntu. It runs as a task, but I see now window
[05:30] <DrPenguin> Chr|s: my first recommendation would be to kick it off in a terminal shell, redirecting stderr to stdout and see if it pukes
[05:31] <stephen> hello
[05:33] <Resistance> how can i find my CPU model via command line
[05:33] <DrPenguin> Resistance: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[05:33] <Resistance> thanks
[05:33] <DrPenguin> naievely.. you may be able to just grep model
[05:34] <Chr|s> DrPenguin, its been awhile for me using linux. Just typing the executable file name in terminal in the current folder isn't starting it
[05:34] <thomedy675> okay i dmesg and i get eth0 link is down and also a nother line that says eth0 not ready
[05:34] <clear`> hey guys, anyone know how to completely remove gnome-shell from ubuntu 11.10
[05:34] <thomedy675> so i ifconfig eth0 up
[05:34] <thomedy675> and ican at least see it in ifconfig
[05:35] <thomedy675> but dmesg is still giving me errors
[05:35] <Guest79686> I have a problem, Banshee media player does not detect my music cd's in ubuntu 11.10, any ideas?
[05:35] <DrPenguin> Chr|s: is the game not in your path? you will have to refer to it absolutely
[05:35] <Chr|s> yes im in the folder where it is located
[05:36] <DrPenguin> Chr|s: prefix the bin with ./, most likely . is not in your path
[05:38] <shadaloo> hello friends of 01
[05:38] <robbbie> ubluntu: hey hey got it working, also the issue was underscan in amdcccle, one more quick question however, any idea how to get nautilus icons working properly?
[05:38] <shadaloo> my mplayer makes a skipping sound when I skip
[05:38] <shadaloo> after an update to 11.10
[05:38] <ubluntu> robbbie: try changing the theme maybe?
[05:39] <robbbie> ubluntu: ok
[05:39] <shadaloo> how do I fix this hacker friends
[05:39] <shadaloo> I don't want this bad noise
[05:39] <Guest79686> I have a problem, Banshee media player does not detect my music cd's in ubuntu 11.10, any ideas?
[05:39] <nimbiotics> Hello all. Using ubuntu 11.10l when I try to run firestarter I get warning shown at http://paste.ubuntu.com/788586/ and it does not open. How can I fix this? TIA!
[05:40] <shadaloo> wb
[05:41] <shadaloo> how many backdoors do u think ubuntu has?
[05:41] <bis0n> hello
[05:41] <shadaloo> hi
[05:43] <Guest79686> Banshee media player does not detect my music cd's in ubuntu 11.10, anyone have any ideas?
[05:43] <shadaloo> no one smart is online right now
[05:43] <bis0n> I'm searchin to use wget with recusive directories, but only for directories name "tst" on all tree
[05:44] <Kiten> Guest79686, you probably didn't burn them as music cd's you probably burnt them as data cd's
[05:44] <robbbie> anyone have this issue with nautilus? i need to restore the default icons..
[05:45] <Chr|s> DrPenguin, I try running it in terminal and I get shared lib error, no such file or directory. File name the game is looking for is "libSDL-1.2.so.0"
[05:45] <bis0n> anyone? need use regex? :/
[05:45] <Guest79686> the music cd's are the originals
[05:45] <DrPenguin> Chr|s: ok thats a good sign ^^ we now know whats the problem is.. can you do a find on that file? maybe its there but its not looking where it is
[05:45] <ubluntu> Guest79686: do other programs see your cd's ?
[05:46] <Guest79686> no
[05:46] <DrPenguin> bis0n: have you tried looking at wgets man page?
[05:46] <bis0n> DrPenguin, for sure
[05:46] <bis0n> I'm using -I but that don't work
[05:46] <bis0n> for me
[05:47] <SubCool> can someone help me clean some stupid stuff up. My usb install of kubuntu went a lil crazy. I have tried to install Antivirus stuff on here and its not going very weell
[05:47] <ubluntu> Guest79686: does dmesg | grep CD or dmesg | grep DVD show anything ?
[05:47] <SubCool> Avast killed something in its lock file
[05:47] <SubCool> spamassassin freezes
[05:47] <SubCool> idk how to use clam anymore
[05:47] <bis0n> -I take /home/tst/ buet not /home/directoryX/tst/
[05:47] <SubCool> but id like to clear up those two thigns first.
[05:48] <SubCool> also- after running one of the virus cleaners... it cleared SOME stuff on the WIN host- but- appearently no wehre near as much as needed
[05:48] <Guest79686> i don't think so, should i try another media player program instead of banshee/
[05:48] <Guest79686> ?
[05:48] <SubCool> PM - would be helpful, because im BARELY looking at this screen, and im on webchat
[05:48] <ypsjd> #join ubuntu-cn
[05:49] <DrPenguin> bis0n: readning the manpage, -l is supposed to specify depth.. how are you exec;ing it?
[05:49] <robbbie> thinking about removing everything nautilus and reinstalling it all...
[05:49] <bis0n> I'm using -r with default -l (5)
[05:50] <ubluntu> Guest79686: you should have something show up in dmesg.... ls /dev | grep cd
[05:50] <bis0n> wget -r -l 5 -I tst domain.com/dir/
[05:51] <bis0n> ok for domain.com/dir/tst but not for domain.com/dir/directoryX/tst
[05:51] <Chipzzz> bis0n: maybe it's a permission problem
[05:51] <bis0n> Chipzzz, no
[05:51] <Guest79686> ok i will try that thanks
[05:52] <clear`> hey guys, anyone know how to completely remove gnome-shell from ubuntu 11.10
[05:53] <doomrobo> Hi, how does the clipboard work in Linux in general. I'm mostly asking for how it works with unicode keys because apparently it's impossible to create an XKeyEvent using unicode characters.
[05:54] <Chipzzz> bis0n: off the top of my head, it looks like the -I is the problem
[05:55] <Dougy> lmao brock lesnar
[05:55] <bis0n> -I is for include directories and I want only dir "tst" so ok, that is the problem, but what can I use?
[05:57] <Chipzzz> bis0n: if you know the directory structure, you can give -I a comma separated list, otherwise you have to spyder the domain afaik
[05:58] <forcemp> ,bis0n : what if you "find | grep -i tst"  first then use the output
[05:59] <bis0n> forceflow, that's sound good... but I don't understand how... :/
[06:00] <Chr|s> DrPenguin, odd, 32bit version of the game works but not 64bit. I have a 64bit machine.
[06:00] <DrPenguin> Chr|s: that probably explains your issue
[06:00] <DrPenguin> its looking somewhere else for the library
[06:00] <DrPenguin> I think.. ldd? that should tell you what its looking for and where
[06:02] <forcemp> bis0n do you want to share the command that you have so far so we have a better idea of what you are trying to accomplish?
[06:02] <melvincv> hi all, I have a old P4 computer with 1GB RAM, 40GB HDD, Intel 845GL chipset. I need good performance. Which Ubuntu should I use? Unity is very slow on it.
[06:02] <subcool> ya, still kinda need tha thelp with virus shit....
[06:02] <subcool> pm please
[06:03] <pangolin> !language | subcool
[06:03] <subcool> isnt it late enough were the children r in bed?
[06:03] <bis0n> forcemp, I'm using "wget -r -l 5 -I tst domain.com/dir/"  ok for "domain.com/dir/tst" but not for "domain.com/dir/directoryX/tst"
[06:03] <pangolin> are we all in your living room?
[06:03] <DrPenguin> subcool: im a child at heart
[06:03] <pangolin> subcool: please keep the language clean :)
[06:03] <subcool> ok, how do i kill the autolock on avast
[06:04] <Barzogh> bis0n: try by adaapting this example to your need : wget -rnd -l5 --no-parent ftp://server.com/dir/
[06:04] <subcool> something happen during its update.... and its kinda shot
[06:04] <pangolin> no idea, maybe there is a channel for avast
[06:04] <bis0n> forcemp, using 'find . -type d -name "tst"' seems to be an good idea but how I can execute that on domain.com/
[06:04] <pangolin> try /msg alist list *avast*
[06:04] <pangolin> try /msg alis list *avast*
[06:05] <melvincv> Please reply. I have a old P4 computer with 1GB RAM, 40GB HDD, Intel 845GL chipset. I need good performance. Which Ubuntu spin should I use? Unity is very slow on it.
[06:05] <DrPenguin> Xu/Lubuntu
[06:05] <pangolin> melvincv: Lubuntu should run nice on that
[06:05] <subcool> ok... so the spamassasin really isnt something to be ran alone...
[06:06] <forcemp> bis0n i thought you were trying to accomplish something else. find wont work.
[06:06] <melvincv> pangolin: How about Xubuntu compared to Lubuntu?
[06:06] <subcool> pangolin: didnt work..
[06:06] <pangolin> melvincv: either should be good.
[06:06] <subcool> just looking on how to delete the lock file... so that it stops crashing on startup
[06:06] <DrPenguin> Lubuntu is much lighter weight, but Xubuntu should come with some more goodies
[06:07] <DrPenguin> eiterh way tho.. your dealing with flux/openbox if im right
[06:07] <bis0n> I think I need make an script with regex... :/
[06:07] <DrPenguin> of wait.. xfce uses xfwm
[06:07] <DrPenguin> I always forget xfwm
[06:09] <melvincv> I see. Will I face any issue in usability moving from ubuntu to xubuntu? Different applications?
[06:10] <ubluntu> melvincv: nautilus will go to thunar.
[06:10] <ubluntu> you can still use nautilus though
[06:10] <Barzogh> nope bad idea if he still wants his computer to run smoothly
[06:11]  * melvincv will try xubuntu then, thanks to all
[06:11] <robbbie> anyone install moonlight?
[06:12]  * samsul is away: papung
[06:12] <Chipzzz> bis0n: if you run wget once in -S mode, you can generate a .wgetrc for a second run that gets the directories you want :)
[06:12] <dahlia> I just installed kubuntu and I want the latest nvidia closed driver but I cant find how to install it. The one I have now is 173. Is there some sekret thing I need to do to get a more recent one?
[06:13] <DrPenguin> dahlia: you could pull the latest from nvidia.com
[06:13] <dahlia> for linux? ty trying...
[06:13] <lalaland1125> Htop is claiming that my xorg is using 4 gigabytes of memory. Any idea what is going on?
[06:13] <samsul> !ebox
[06:14] <DrPenguin> lalaland1125: … wha? 4gigs? that.. doesnt sound right.. do you even have that much?
[06:14] <lalaland1125> I'll post a screenshot
[06:14] <franz_> it is possible to use a partitioned USB HD to create bootable usb within loose data from other partition?
[06:15] <lalaland1125> http://s8.postimage.org/r6fjsak2b/blah.png
[06:15] <szal> !liveusb
[06:15] <lalaland1125> How the heck is that happening ↑
[06:16] <Guest48316> how do i update a signal package and it's dependence
[06:16] <DrPenguin> lalaland1125: that.. is weird.. can you show us your Xorg.0.log?
[06:16] <thomedy675> the ubuntu docs arent really helping me
[06:16] <robbbie> I have installed moonlight but it appears i am out of luck when it comes to watching netflix, can anyone confirm?
[06:17] <Chipzzz> robbbie: confirmed... blockbuster online won't work either
[06:17] <Chipzzz> (afaik)
[06:17] <lalaland1125> DrPenguin: I don't think anything funny in going on in the log, but here it is: http://ideone.com/swMqb
[06:18] <lalaland1125> It might be that the fglrx driver is consuming alot of the ram. Xinerimera is not exactly the standard configuration.
[06:18] <DrPenguin> ohhhh hohoho this is fglrx
[06:18] <DrPenguin> my nemesis
[06:18] <DrPenguin> I can figure this out
[06:19] <DrPenguin> before I read too much into it.. its possible that fglrx is getting a TON of ram for the framebuffer
[06:19] <karl-augustt> DrPenguin ; do not use Enter as Punctuation!
[06:19] <DrPenguin> in some bios, you can assign that, upper values of 2gig, possibly more
[06:19] <lalaland1125> That might be. I was abusing firefox before this happened.
[06:19] <DrPenguin> karl-augustt: dont tell me what to do! anyway..
[06:20] <lalaland1125> Using an autopager so I got somewhere like 400 pages before it stared swapping.
[06:20] <Chipzzz> lalaland1125: according to htop, chrome is taking all the memory
[06:20] <pnorman> I just finished moving my ubuntu install to a new case and motherboard and it's not connecting to the network. ifconfig only shows the local loopback interface. ifconfig -a shows the local loopback as well as eth2 and rename3
[06:21] <karl-augustt> DrPenguin : so you can quit channel, you do not need support discussion, you're ready to life alone!!
[06:21] <lalaland1125> Chipzzz: Nah it's only using ~10-15% Xorg is eating it all.
[06:22] <lalaland1125> DrPenguin: I think you might be right, that's it caching it for some reason.
[06:22] <lalaland1125> So I only need to dig into the settings for how to flush the cache or something.
[06:22] <karl-augustt> DrPenguin : so you can quit channel, you do not need support discussion, you're ready to life alone!!
[06:22] <DrPenguin> lalaland1125: can you see if theres an option in amdcccle, and if not, MAYBE (but doubtful) your bios, where it dictates the framebuffer size? also,you might need to look at other settings, if your using Xinerama, things like EnableTearFree desktop do consume a decent amount of Ram
[06:23] <Chipzzz> lalaland1125: sorry, you're right... chrome is taking a lot of virtual memory
[06:23] <szal> !attitude | DrPenguin, karl-augustt
[06:23] <DrPenguin> szal: I dont even use Ubuntu. I dont like Ubuntu. I just chill here to help people
[06:23] <szal> DrPenguin: thus stick to the !guidelines please
[06:24] <DrPenguin> szal: what guidelines? im talking to lalaland1125 helpign HIM.
[06:24] <Chipzzz> lol@DrPenguin... you know an awful lot about ubuntu for someone who doesn't like it much... kudos to you, sir
[06:24] <pangolin> DrPenguin: We appreciate it but keep in mind while in here we ask that you follow the guidelines. karl-augustt please do not tell people to leave the channel and try wording your comments a little nicer.
[06:24] <pangolin> there we go. back to support :)
[06:25] <DrPenguin> Chipzzz: it used to be my Distro of choice, and its what I work on at HP. I mainly use Arch Linux now
[06:26] <JoshuaP> I'm about to do a server reboot and will be right back. :)
[06:26] <Chipzzz> DrPenguin: Ah... thank you for dropping in to help us out!
[06:27] <DrPenguin> Chipzzz: heh its nothing.. im just bored really, nothin better to do
[06:27] <karl-augustt> pangolin: do not worry, you can take for granted that i'll be correct when working on channel!
[06:27] <lalaland1125> Yay, the buffer seems to have cleared itself out, nows it's down to a puny 861 megabytes.
[06:27] <lalaland1125> Note to self: never load more than 400 pages in firefox.
[06:28] <szal> lol
[06:29] <DrPenguin> lalaland1125: wait, X is back down to a cute level or is this something completely different ?
[06:29] <lalaland1125> It's back down to a cute level.
[06:29] <lalaland1125> I assume firefox tried doing something stupid like loading a million textures into the graphics card memory or something.
[06:30] <DrPenguin> lalaland1125: good! im glad :). As a recommendation, try a browser like Chromium. Its much more friendly when it comes to CPU and Ram.. its weird that X was the owner of those memory allocations.. thats something to think about
[06:30] <dahlia> is there a way I can log in to my new kubuntu install without running X? I dont see an option for it on the login screen
[06:31] <DrPenguin> dahlia: well.. if you boot in single user mode that would do the trick.. what are you trying to accomplish?
[06:31] <dahlia> I want to install new nvidia driver but it wont let me if X is running
[06:31] <DrPenguin> dahlia: oh! thats simple.. just VT swtich (like ctrl alt F2), log in, sudo services gdm stop, install it, then sudo services gdm start
[06:31] <dahlia> I tried single user mode but it said read-only file syste,
[06:31] <dahlia> ty trying that...
[06:31] <DrPenguin> probably because the kernel was passed ro
[06:33] <dahlia> services: command not found
[06:33] <DrPenguin> um.. maybe its service then? try that.. I always get this one mixed up
[06:33] <dahlia> kk
[06:33] <Chipzzz> "service" is right
[06:34] <dahlia> gdm: unrecogniized service
[06:34] <dahlia> closer :)
[06:34] <dahlia> its kubuntu
[06:34] <pangolin> kdm
[06:34] <DrPenguin> OH!then its kdm
[06:34] <dahlia> ty that did something
[06:35] <DrPenguin> now X is dead, feel free to install the driver
[06:35] <chromaticwt> how do I disable gdm?
[06:35] <chromaticwt> in 11.10
[06:37] <pangolin> chromaticwt: sudo service gdm stop
[06:37] <pangolin> err 11.10 uses lightdm so  I think it is ldm now
[06:37] <chromaticwt> oh really? so I guess that's why I couldn't disable gdm.
[06:37] <pangolin> would make sense yeah
[06:39] <Tyther> ok
[06:39] <tensorpudding> if you upgrade i don't believe it changes it
[06:39] <karl-augustt> do someone have a guide on how to use Archlinux to build a minimal OS?
[06:39] <tensorpudding> or it might give you a choose
[06:39] <tensorpudding> choice*
[06:39] <pangolin> karl-augustt: #arch
[06:39] <tensorpudding> karl-augustt, you mean debootstrapping ubuntu in arch?
[06:40] <tensorpudding> that'd not really be on-topic
[06:40] <ubluntu> I think it's #archlinux
[06:40] <DrPenguin> that is correct
[06:41] <karl-augustt> tensorpudding: exactly
[06:41] <tensorpudding> debootstrap is available outside of debian-based systems
[06:42] <atvr> hi, i need help people. i have an issue trying to instal ubuntu 11.10 with a bootable usb stick, since i am new to linux, and i am a windows user i dont really understand the linux thing, so my problem is im trying to instal, when i boot from the usb stick, i get to the first menu, wich you can choose to only try ubuntu or instal it, but after i have pressed my choice the screen whent black and there is nothing happening, but if a choo
[06:42] <atvr> the probleme is probably with my video card wich is a AMD radeon
[06:42] <atvr> my laptop is an toshiba satallite L745D
[06:42] <pnorman> atvr: Your first message cut off with but if a choo
[06:43] <edbian> atvr, does try or install work?
[06:43] <wookienz> team, just upgraded to 11.10. Having porblems with connecting to it remotely. Is there a VNC sevrer installed by default? I have remote desktop turned on in the settings, but netstat shows no listening ports for 5500 or 5900. ideas?
[06:43] <atvr> edbian: no my screen dosnt work
[06:43] <gulzar> any duplicate file finder utility.. other than fslint?
[06:43] <guest_> I am wondering for software engineers and programmers what their favorite IDE for developing their applications is? Mine is eclipse you can do everything in it from asm to perl , python , java , c/c++ ...etc
[06:43] <pnorman> wookienz: did you have vnc installed before?
[06:44] <mebigfatguy_> guest_,  and this has what to do with ubuntu?
[06:44] <Stanley00> !best | guest_
[06:44] <tensorpudding> guest_, that's not really a support question, this channel isn't for polls
[06:44] <edbian> atvr, does the USB stick boot on any other computer? (do you have any other computer to test it on?)
[06:44] <atvr> pnorman: but if a choose to only try it it can ear the ubuntu theme song in my speaker
[06:44] <szal> how do I select a USB drive to make a startup disk from in usb-creator?
[06:44] <atvr> edbian: yes i have tested on my desktop and it work
[06:45] <atvr> also i have tryied the alternative installation wich does not work ether
[06:45] <edbian> atvr, try booting with the nomodeset option:   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[06:45] <karl-augustt> atvr, you have perhaps too problem, if you monitor have no problem , be convainced that you have an uninstable OS on your disk
[06:46] <szal> ah, needed a kick in the shizzles by un- and replugging the USB pen
[06:46] <atvr> karl-augustt: what do you mean i dont nunderstand
[06:46] <DrPenguin> karl-augustt: its not that.. ive seen this before.. X has issues automagically booting on newer machines
[06:46] <karl-augustt> ubuntu 11.10 presents again some bugs, so be patient!
[06:46] <atvr> DrPenguin: hi , if you remenber about 2days ago i have talked to you about that
[06:47] <DrPenguin> atvr: I thought I recognized your issue.. good.. im not any more crazy that I think I am
[06:47] <gulzar> any duplicate file finder utility.. other than fslint?
[06:47] <atvr> DrPenguin: XD
[06:48] <lalaland1125> Hmm it seems Xorg's dance with swap has messed up my sound, now all my songs sound like my mother singing them.
[06:48] <lalaland1125> Time to reboot.
[06:48] <Stanley00> gulzar: fdupes is also good, but it's command line only
[06:48] <leeprison> hi,everyone .  I have two os  win7 and ubuntu10.04   ,but  i want to update my ubuntu  and i'm afraid to destroy the grub ..how to update safety?
[06:48] <pr0ton_> how to switch tabs in terminal?
[06:49] <Stanley00> leeprison: how did you install your ubuntu? if you didnt use wubi, then upgrade is just fine,
[06:49] <gulzar> Stanley00: no prob.. I will try it
[06:49] <DrPenguin> leeprison: no need to be worried, Ive done updates before on a dualbooted machine and I havent had an issue (until I updated from Natty to Oneric, but it wasnt grub related)
[06:49] <wookienz> pnorman: maybe not then...is there a stock vnc se ubuntu?
[06:49] <Stanley00> leeprison: and better way is fresh install
[06:50] <wookienz> se/server
[06:50] <Chipzzz> leeprison: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is a good option
[06:50] <saurabh_D> ls
[06:50] <leeprison> I did't use wubi
[06:51] <karl-augustt> DrPenguin: I 've just have a similar problem, I started ubuntu on my usb disk, after a few seconds, I did not have any luminosity
[06:51] <pnorman> on a server typically you wouldn't have a GUI.
[06:52] <hounchouts> Hi everyone. I've recently got a small VPS. It had CentOS 64 installed but after trying it I wasn't pleased and asked to install Ubuntu (as I originally asked they made a mistake with the CentOS). They installed Ubuntu 10.04.3 but now I can't run simple commands like apt-get and gedit, and constantly get Wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 errors. this is how it looks like when I log in: http://paste
[06:52] <hounchouts> bin.com/grE9yXN0
[06:52] <karl-augustt> DrPenguin : I remained that in this conditions , my installation still worked!
[06:53] <gulzar> Stanley00: Thank You
[06:53] <wookienz> pnorman: it is to remote back to my main machine when overseas.
[06:53] <Stanley00> gulzar: you are welcome ;)
[06:56] <subcool> help with fixing avast-
[06:57] <szal> subcool: whole sentences-
[06:57] <karl-augustt> atvr: have you find a solution to your problem?
[06:57] <subcool> avast is erroring during ITS startup. Something about its engine error. Not getting much from google
[06:58] <subcool> aside from uninstall reinstall
[06:58] <hounchouts> does anyone know why I am getting these ELFCLASS64 errors?
[06:58] <chromaticwt> what is the best way to create a custom ubuntu cd?
[06:58] <subcool> I also have a killer virus on my friends laptop- which is NOT getting cleared by these virus scanners im using....
[06:58] <chromaticwt> which tutorial should I use?
[06:58] <Stanley00> !remastersys | chromaticwt
[06:58] <subcool> The virus has rendered the computer pretty useless. i would like to not have to resintall the OS- it is a windwos OS
[06:59] <subcool> XP
[07:00] <atvr> karl-augustt: no
[07:00] <clear`> subcool: backup the data and install ubuntu
[07:00] <forcemp> subcool did you check all the typical places virus' live?
[07:00] <DrPenguin> hounchouts: are you trying to compile and or run a program of one architecture on an incompatible one? like what are you doing
[07:01] <subcool> clear`: not my computer
[07:01] <clear`> then its not your problem...
[07:01] <subcool> forcemp: um- no?? i use scanners these days.
[07:01] <subcool> clear`: lol- it is if i plan to get laid.
[07:01] <DrPenguin> scanners suck
[07:01]  * subcool feels played
[07:02] <clear`> well tell her/him that the best solution is to backup and start fresh
[07:03] <forcemp> subcool i fyou dont like the manual method you can try microsoft system sweeper?
[07:03] <clear`> well, what virus is it?
[07:03] <subcool> forcemp: her computer is useless it is has locked out EVERYTHING that i can use to fix it. Which doesnt seem to matter, because even the scanners arent clearing it all up
[07:03] <clear`> boot in safe mode and do a scan
[07:03] <subcool> clear`: no clue- nothing is picking it up.
[07:04] <tensorpudding> !ot | subcool
[07:04] <subcool> clear`: way past that
[07:04] <lifestream> Is there another way to make a Windows XP USB (iso to usb) besides with unetbootin ? Because unetbootin does not work with XP (it only shows "Default" on the menu, and it doesn't boot XP)
[07:04] <subcool> cute tensorpudding
[07:04] <karl-augustt> do someone have a guide on how to use Archlinux to build a minimal OS?
[07:04] <DrPenguin> subcool: hes right,, this is off topic
[07:04] <DrPenguin> !ot | karl-augustt
[07:04] <subcool> im looking for ubuntu help :p
[07:04] <DrPenguin> but.. this isnt an ubuntu problem
[07:05] <forcemp> subcool have you heard of system sweeper? its an offline av scanner that mounts the windows registry hives and searches the os for root kits more efficiently.
[07:05] <subcool> safemode has been destroyed- thus using ubuntu
[07:05] <subcool> the virus even destroyed the use of network options
[07:05] <tensorpudding> you can't fix windows from ubuntu
[07:06] <DrPenguin> tensorpudding: id disagree there, its possible
[07:06] <tensorpudding> even if you could, it is a windows question
[07:06] <clear`> subcool: time to backup and format
[07:06] <DrPenguin> but regardless, this ISNT an ubuntu issue
[07:06] <subcool> its very possible,
[07:06] <subcool> bah-
[07:06] <subcool> k, - imma try to fix these last two scanners and take it from there
[07:06] <subcool> i just cant believe nothing is picking this thing up.
[07:07] <ubluntu> subcool maybe its a rootkit
[07:08] <subcool> pm me- too much chatter
[07:09] <hounchouts> drpenguin: no i just started the server. I tried to open gedit or try apt-get but get the same corrupted library errors. I've put it on pastebin if you want to have a look :  http://pastebin.com/grE9yXN0
[07:10] <DrPenguin> hounchouts: oh man that looks ugly.. whats the output of uname -p?
[07:11] <atvr> how can i put nomodeset when installing ubuntu 11.10
[07:11] <DrPenguin> atvr: thats a kernel boot parameter
[07:12] <atvr> DrPenguin: ?? can you explan what you said lol like i said i am new to linux
[07:12] <Chipzzz> atvr: press space while it is booting into grub and edit the record
[07:12] <hounchouts> drpenguin: uname -p = unknown
[07:12] <clear`> hey guys, anyone know how to completely remove gnome-shell from ubuntu 11.10
[07:12] <DrPenguin> hounchouts: Whoa! seriously? ok… what about just straight uname -a? Im thinking your system for some reaosn has NO idea what architechture it is
[07:12] <Stanley00> atvr: you can add that via /etc/default/grub
[07:13] <DrPenguin> atvr: the Linux Kernel takes parameters when it boots to exec with different options, like single, ro, quiet, splash, etc. nomodeset is one of thos options
[07:13] <Stanley00> atvr: add that that the line "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=..." , I think, then run update-grub
[07:13] <atvr> DrPenguin: okay but how can i set that, im not able to get into the installation
[07:14] <Chipzzz> atvr: are you still trying to boot from the live cd?
[07:14] <hounchouts> drpenguin: uname -a = Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.32-33-server #70-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jul 7 22:28:30 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:14] <atvr> Stanley00: i am not even able to install ubuntu so i cant do that
[07:14] <DrPenguin> atvr: you can manipulate the kernel boot parameters when you go to boot for a one time deal
[07:14] <atvr> Chipzzz: no im from a udb stick
[07:14] <hounchouts> centOS 64 was installed first erronously, as I asked for Ubuntu 32, so they installed Ubuntu
[07:15] <Stanley00> atvr: ah, I see, you want to set that option for the liveCD right?
[07:15] <DrPenguin> hounchouts: ok.. I wonder why -p gave you an unknown when it sees that its an x64 arch.. I think you might just need to reinstall your server.. maybe you should md5 the iso to make sure its ok
[07:15] <DrPenguin> hounchouts: thats ubuntu 64
[07:15] <hounchouts> I asked them to install Ubuntu 32 and they confirmed that. Strange
[07:15] <atvr> DrPenguin: when i boot, i see that i can put some command or somthing, it says Boot: in the lower part of the screen so is it there that i have to put something
[07:16] <DrPenguin> hounchouts: according to uname its 64..unless they botched something TERRIBLY wrong
[07:16] <atvr> Stanley00: no i am from a usb boot stick
[07:17] <hounchouts> DrPenguin: thanks, I think I better contact them again, hope they get it right the third time
[07:17] <Orthebox> Hi
[07:17] <Stanley00> atvr: It's the same as liveCD IMO :), when you at the boot screen, high light the try ubuntu..., press F6 I think, the will popup some option, one of them is nomodeset
[07:17] <atvr> Stanley00: i am trying that right away :) sorry i am new to linux
[07:18] <Orthebox> Hello everyone I'm currently using MacBook Pro 7,1 and I intend to install Ubuntu as part of my triple-boot plan (OSX, WIN, UBUNTU). I just need to know - which edition should I use for my installation?
[07:18] <lifestream> I have Linux only. Does anyone know if I can run flashboot/WinToFlash inside a virtualbox Windows to put XP ISO on USB? I have no cd drive so I'm screwed.  Unetbootin does not work.
[07:18] <Stanley00> atvr: everyone is new at the first time ;)
[07:18] <Chipzzz> lol
[07:19] <szal> installing from USB is a very nice way of installing
[07:19] <atvr> Stanley00: when i press F6 i doesnt do anything
[07:19] <atvr> Stanley00: could it be the TAB button
[07:19] <Orthebox> @szal: I'm using dd.
[07:20] <Stanley00> atvr: hmm, did you high light the "try ubuntu..." line at boot screen?
[07:20] <atvr> Stanley00: cuz i have pressed tab and now there is a command line in bottom of the screen
[07:20] <Stanley00> atvr: ah, just exit that command line, press F6 at the boot menu.
[07:21] <Chipzzz> atvr: didn't it used to give you a graphic screen with icons to click on for "try" or "install"?
[07:21] <atvr> Stanley00: yes it more like "Run Ubuntu From This USB"
[07:21] <Stanley00> atvr: ooops, did you use unetbootin to create that usb?
[07:21] <atvr> Chipzzz: no its like a dos menu, i can only us the keyboard to select
[07:21] <atvr> Stanley00: yes i did
[07:22] <szal> bleh..  "Selecting and installing software failed"
[07:22] <Orthebox> ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso or ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso?
[07:22] <Stanley00> atvr: I didnt use that tool for a long time... cant remember how to do with it... do you know how to edit a boot option? It's normally said at the bottom of screen
[07:23] <Stanley00> atvr: like "press xxx to edit..."?
[07:23] <Orthebox> Which edition is advised for MacBook Pro 7,1?
[07:23] <Stanley00> !ot | Orthebox
[07:24] <Stanley00> Orthebox: oop, sorry, miss your first post :(
[07:24] <Orthebox> Stanley00: It's fine :P
[07:24] <Orthebox> Stanley00: The Ubuntu wiki suggested Oneiric ... I dunno why
[07:24] <atvr> Stanley00: no i dont but, when ive pressed tab there is somthing written at the bottom that i can edit, its like" /casper/vm/linuz noprompt cdrom-detect.......
[07:25] <Stanley00> Orthebox: all of them is fine. just depend on your system's memory
[07:25] <Orthebox> Stanley00: K thanks a lot :)
[07:26] <Stanley00> atvr: hmm, maybe it's tab key, you can go to the end of the line said "linux ..." or "kernel ..." then add nomodeset
[07:27] <miadbahrami> salam bache ha ki c++ khoob mitoone kar kone baram ye proje benevise
[07:28] <atvr> Stanley00: yes i just tryed that, then it when to a screen purple that says Ubuntu 11.10 and there was like loading progress bar with dots, then i t went into a black screen that i am able to input some command, the line is ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[07:29] <Stanley00> atvr: hmm, can you try running "startx"
[07:29] <atvr> Stanley00: so i have put back the nomodeset there, then its says command not found then there was somthing says like loading firmware.... and there some command displaying one after one
[07:30] <Chipzzz> atvr: sounds like you have a server edition... if you install it, you can "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" and have a full desktop running in no time
[07:30] <atvr> Stanley00: do you want me to reboot and try to put your startx comand
[07:30] <wadkar> okay, I fudged up my partition table
[07:30] <Stanley00> atvr: ah, you run startx at the command screen, which said "ubuntu@ubuntu:~$"
[07:31] <wadkar> now I am constrained by the primary partition limit of 4
[07:31] <atvr> Stanley00: no do you want me to try it ?
[07:31] <Stanley00> atvr: yes, you should run startx command
[07:31] <wadkar> and I think I will need to remove/resize my extended partition /dev/sda4 which hosts the logical partition /dev/sda5 : my root partition
[07:32] <wadkar> which is the best way to go about this ?
[07:32] <guest_> ,
[07:33] <wadkar> can gParted resize my root partition ?
[07:33] <Chipzzz> wadkar: do you have a desktop or are you working from the command line?
[07:33] <atvr> Stanley00: i just retried to put the nomodeset, and now it work i can vue the desktop to try it, so now i am trying to instal it with nomodeset
[07:33] <StepNjump> how can I unpack a .gz file please using tar?
[07:33] <wadkar> Chipzzz: I have Ubuntu 11.04 amd64 desktop installed on my laptop
[07:33] <Chipzzz> wadker: yes gparted is the tool to use
[07:34] <Stanley00> atvr: good luck then ;)
[07:34] <Stanley00> StepNjump: tar -xvf file.tar.gz?
[07:34] <StepNjump> ok let me try that Stanley00 tnx
[07:34] <wadkar> I have /dev/sda1 500mb /boot , /dev/sda2 4gb swap, /dev/sda3 100gb ntfs /windows and I hoped to created rest ~400gb space as /dev/sda4 extended, then create logical partitions there
[07:35] <Stanley00> StepNjump: np ;)
[07:35] <wadkar> s/hoped/thought/
[07:35] <StepNjump> Stanley00 it says: tar: This does not look like a tar archive. keep in mind it's not a tar.gz but just a .gz
[07:35] <wadkar> unfortunately the /dev/sda4 is a megre 50GB , which I thought I allocated to /dev/sda5 my ext4 /root partition
[07:36] <Stanley00> StepNjump: then try this  tar -zxvf file.tar.gz?
[07:36] <Humbedooh> gzip -d filename ?
[07:36] <StepNjump> no it's file.gz stanley00
[07:36] <Stanley00> StepNjump: if that is just gz, not tar, then try gunzip :D
[07:36] <wadkar> now I want to resize my /dev/sda4 so that it can occupy rest, but that means erasing /dev/sda5 , which hosts my OS !
[07:37] <wadkar> need some fdisk-foo badly :(
[07:37] <StepNjump> ok and what are the switches of the gunzip Stanley00
[07:37] <Humbedooh> ...
[07:37] <Stanley00> StepNjump: just gunzip file.gz :D
[07:37] <StepNjump> ok let me try
[07:37] <Chipzzz> wadkar: actually, you're in better shape than you think...
[07:38] <wadkar> Chipzzz: really? how so ?
[07:39] <Chipzzz> wadkar: if i'm reading this right, you have 50Gb for /dev/s4 and 350Gb unpartitioned, right?
[07:39] <wadkar> yes, sda4 is the extended one, which has logical sda5 hosting my Ubuntu
[07:40] <wadkar> Chipzzz: ^
[07:40] <Humbedooh> to think if Apache had developed the gz format...
[07:40] <Humbedooh> it'd be called apache gunzip :D
[07:40] <Stanley00> wadkar: I dont know, if it's like that you could just simple resize sda4 to that unallocate?
[07:41] <gulzar> Please help. Pidgin is showing "not authorised" with gmail. Any solution?
[07:41] <wadkar> Stanley00: hmm, I can resize sda4, without mutilating sda5 ? never resized anything till date, so not sure how it works
[07:42] <wadkar> I am only worried because of sda5 hosting my OS, otherwise I wouldnt mind experimenting/trying out whatever I feel right
[07:42] <Church> wadkar: whatever you do i'd say making backups prior that never hurts
[07:42] <Stanley00> wadkar: I think it would be fine, if you not sure, backup averything before you do that :D
[07:42] <Chipzzz> wadkar: so if you partition the 350Gb as ext4, you can reinstall the system with a 50Gb "/" volume and a 350Gb "/home" partition, which is a reasonable useage
[07:43] <Stanley00> wadkar: backup is alway good practice before you do anything :D
[07:43] <Chipzzz> (although the "/" is a bit large)
[07:43] <wadkar> Church: sure, I know that very well, and I have my own backups, but system config is a big task, and I dont want to repeat myself
[07:43] <Church> pitty default ubuntu installer doesn't do lvm. lvm provides great flexibility for allocating disk space.
[07:44]  * wadkar brb
[07:44] <Da|Mummy> im stuck with read only filesystem, how do i get out of it?
[07:44] <Church> Da|Mummy: remount rw?
[07:44] <Church> mount /dev/whateverdevice /mountpoint -o rw,remount
[07:46] <szal> Extras doesn't exist for Lucid?
[07:48] <wadkar> Chipzzz: I do not want to reinstall , that will take too much of my _energy_ (lot of custom installation of dev-tools)
[07:49] <JoshuaP> I AMSG'D
[07:49] <wadkar> anyways, enough talking, let me ask gParted and see how it goes
[07:49]  * wadkar fingers crossed *_*
[07:49] <Church> wadkar: then backup enough of things to enable restore of whatever that's important to you
[07:50] <Church> be it data in user home dir, or installed/configured OS
[07:50] <Church> for later, backup files/dirs of OS. bootloader probably can be reinstalled from eg. bootable install media
[07:51] <wadkar> Church: I will still have to recompile from source, and I forgot the custom flags and all, not worried about booloader, i know enough grub-foo to boot my sda5 off sdb1's grub :D
[07:52] <Church> if you restore those files, shouldn't you be left with state you are now with all that custom compiled stuff?
[07:52] <Church> as for future, i suggest to document. many admins forget that (important) step.
[07:53] <Church> might be as simple as copypasting entered commands to download/compile stuff into some .txt file. :)
[07:53] <wadkar> Church: yeah, agreed , completely. But I am not sure if I linked against custom libs, but yeah. I get your point
[07:54] <wadkar> *sigh* , gParted wont resize my sda4 will I umount sda5, which I (obviously) can't
[07:54] <jpk> Say I have a ubuntu server with all the packages I want installed, and I want all the same ones installed on a second machine.  Is there a handy way to get a list of packages from the first machine so I can install them all on the second?
[07:54] <wadkar> s/will/till
[07:54] <Church> wadkar: try boot from other media?
[07:54] <wadkar> how about liveCD ?
[07:54] <wadkar> Church: bingo !
[07:56]  * wadkar slaps his forhead for forgetting that he can has only one extended partition?
[07:56] <Da|Mummy> Church, where do i specify the filesystem in that?
[07:57] <Chipzzz> wadkar: you could try copying sd5 into sd4, booting into sd4 and resizing sd5 to take up the rest of the disk
[07:57] <dbazuin_> I am a mac user who want to give ubuntu a go and i have a machine with xp and citrix on it. What is the easist way to clean that thing and install ubuntu?
[07:57] <langlang_> xchat  lost words.
[07:57] <Church> Da|Mummy: you can of course add -t fstype, but in most cases kernel should autodetect, or read entry from /etc/fstab, no?
[07:58] <wadkar> Chipzzz: perhaps you didnt get my " fdisk -l  /dev/sda " , the sda4 is the hosting extended partition, the logical sda5 is part of extended sda4, i can not have the latter without the former
[07:58] <Church> dbazuin: depends on what you need. eg. some dualboot setup, or linux only box. but in any case i'd backup first.
[07:59] <almoxarife> dbazuin_: you want to add to or remove what is on the machine and go ubuntu?
[07:59] <dbazuin_> Linux only
[07:59] <Orthebox> Hi I'm using a MacBook Pro 7,1 and I want to install Ubuntu, should I take the amd64 or i386 one?
[07:59] <Chipzzz> wadkar: you're right, i didn't...sorry
[07:59] <dbazuin_> Yes almoxarife
[07:59] <Da|Mummy> no go here...mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[07:59] <dbazuin_> It is a spare
[08:00] <almoxarife> dbazuin_: during the install you are asked something like 'use it all'??, do and the machine will be 100% ubuntu
[08:00] <dbazuin_> Ok so i download it and copy it to the pc
[08:00] <almoxarife> dbazuin_: no,
[08:00] <wadkar> dbazuin_: yes, look for 'use entire disk' or 'automatic partitioning'
[08:00] <Orthebox> Hi I'm using a MacBook Pro 7,1 and I want to install Ubuntu, should I take amd64 or i386?
[08:01] <wadkar> dbazuin_: you will need to burn a CD or figure out Mac way to create USB image
[08:01] <almoxarife> dbazuin_: you d/l the iso, burn to either disk or usb and then install
[08:01] <Church> dbazuin: i'd create install on usb disk for simplicity. and before overwriting everything double check if there isn't something you need that should be backed up
[08:01] <DrPenguin> Orthebox: if your mac has a 64bit proc use 64bit, otherwise use 32
[08:01] <langlang_> how to reslove that problem which is xchat lost words.
[08:01] <dbazuin_> How big need the usb
[08:01] <almoxarife> dbazuin_: 1gig
[08:02] <dbazuin_> Realy?
[08:02] <dbazuin_> Thats easy then
[08:02] <Church> oh. hmm, he has mac? ubuntu will have no problems with booting on that? (i have no experience with whatever custom apple might have put in their macs, even though x86 ones)
[08:02] <almoxarife> dbazuin_: the iso is about 698+-
[08:02] <dbazuin_> Cool
[08:02] <dbazuin_> I want also tomrun lamp
[08:02] <dbazuin_> On it
[08:03] <wadkar> dbazuin_: is the machine Mac or a generic PC with XP+citrix installed ?
[08:03] <dbazuin_> Just a dell
[08:03] <almoxarife> dbazuin_: btw, use the 'alternate' and be hardwired to the internet for the best outcome
[08:04] <Church> hmm, for server? i'd prefer centos to ubuntu probably.
[08:04] <dbazuin_> Ok that is a slide probelem
[08:04] <wadkar> dbazuin_: then you dont have to worry about anything, just go with standard tools, you can find tutorials/guides for LAMP'ing your OS
[08:04] <wadkar> Church: it may not be a production server, so don't have to push the RHEL stack right away
[08:04] <almoxarife> dbazuin_: don't sweat it, go with what you got
[08:04] <dbazuin_> Thanks guys
[08:05] <wadkar> yw
[08:06] <wadkar> ohhk guys, thanks from me too, I will have to figure out a way out on my own on a LiveCD it seems
[08:06] <wadkar> wish me luck -_-
[08:06] <dbazuin_> Somwhow i can only connect to the net with a citrix pc
[08:06] <Church> wadkar: it's just that centos is close enough to rhel. so as we use mostly rhel or oraclelinux for servers, centos often fills role for close enough thing for cheap development/test installs. Lesser the zoo of miscellaneous OSes/releases, less headache with supporting that.
[08:07] <dbazuin_> But we get a seperate line
[08:07] <Church> i don't wish to introduce more OSes to our supported zoo :)
[08:07] <dbazuin_> So better wait for that?
[08:07] <wadkar> Church: agreed , but the OP may not even be considering a production server, he might want to try out LAMP and see whats what
[08:08] <wadkar> Church: I myself installed CentOS 5.7 few weeks ago (with only IUS for PHP-MySQL), works great !
[08:08] <wadkar> dbazuin_: why do you need LAMP stack ? to run a production quality server ?
[08:09] <dbazuin_> No development
[08:09] <dbazuin_> Drupal
[08:09] <wadkar> dbazuin_: will you be managing deployment/production server ?
[08:09] <dbazuin_> I want to se if ubuntu is a good alternative
[08:09] <dbazuin_> No
[08:10] <dbazuin_> The site go to a host when the done
[08:10] <dbazuin_> I hate windows
[08:10] <dbazuin_> Love mac
[08:10] <wadkar> then Ubuntu might be best suited for you (assuming no prior linux experience) , the SysAd of your host will take the burden/headache of configuring your code-base for live production server
[08:10] <wadkar> you go with what feels right for you as a dev
[08:11] <wadkar> let the Ops/SysAd worry about deployment issue
[08:11]  * Church hates 6th release of redhat/centos and alikes though. Less fit for running in xen, and that freaking new upstart init. I had big pile of headache with trying to replicate what i need and had in normal inittab to work in upstart. And from what i heard, in next releases upstart gonna be replaced once again to something else :/
[08:11] <dbazuin_> Or bussiness is pc only
[08:12] <dbazuin_> So when I can not get mac in it i can get ubuntu
[08:13] <dbazuin_> Plus i heard a lot about it lately
[08:14] <dbazuin_> My compliment to you all you a relaxed bunch here love that
[08:14] <Guisepe> hello
[08:16] <Guisepe> aircrack ubuntu 11.10 instaling
[08:17] <lake> How can I list all installed packages?
[08:18] <Church> dpkg --list
[08:19] <atvr> Stanley00: hey, now ive been able to instal it, but i cant boot lol i need to put back the nomodeset command but i dont know how
[08:20] <Church> atvr: at bootloader go to entry of os, type 'e', edit booting line with adding needed options
[08:20] <Stanley00> atvr: dose it show up a menu to choose OS when you power up your PC?
[08:20] <eFfeM> hi, anyone an idea on how to install ruby-sinatra on ubuntu 11.10? It fails because it cannot meet a dependency on ruby-rack (known issue, ubuntu Bug #843734   ) ; seems the package in 11.10 is called libruby-rack
[08:20] <atvr> Stanley00: yes, and i have tryed pressing shift while boot to enter the grub menu
[08:20] <atvr> Stanley00: i have pressed e to edit the command line
[08:21] <atvr> Stanley00: and i think a have to replace something but i dont now what
[08:21] <Stanley00> atvr: then, there a line says linux ... , just add monoset at the end of that line
[08:21] <Stanley00> s/monoset/nomodeset/
[08:22] <atvr> so it will look like that `linux... quiet spash vt.
[08:23] <atvr> so it will look like that `linux... quiet spash vt . handoff=7 s/monoset/nomodeset/
[08:23] <Chipzzz> eFfeM: is the lib in the repo?
[08:23] <atvr> Stanley00: is this correct
[08:24] <Stanley00> atvr: just "linux... quiet spash vt . handoff=7 nomodeset" :D
[08:25] <eFfeM> Chipzzz: according to Bug #905304   yes (but the name is librack-ruby, not libruby-rack as I wrote before)
[08:26] <eFfeM> no idea how to apt-get install a deb with modifying or ignoring the deps
[08:27] <Stanley00> atvr: and remember to edit the /etc/default/grub or you have to add nomdeset every system startup
[08:29] <Syria> Hi! i was trying to change the sound output device so i can use HDMI but not i have no sound at all!! how can i get the original settings please?
[08:29] <atvr> Stanley00: sorry it didnt work, i think it made my network wifi drop
[08:29] <badboy_jonathan> /dev/audio
[08:30] <almoxarife> Syria: what did you use to change it ?
[08:30] <atvr> Stanley00: do you have an idea about what can i do, the edit didnt work
[08:30] <Syria> almoxarife:  I have changed the hardware from sound preferences and did something with alsamixer!
[08:31] <Stanley00> !nomodeset | atvr , I dont know, you could try this
[08:31] <almoxarife> Syria: something? remember what you did? perhaps mute? look for 'MM' in alsmixer
[08:32] <Chipzzz> eFfeM: aptitude is better at resolving problems like that than apt-get... you might try that
[08:32] <eFfeM> Chipzzz: will try that, thanks
[08:33] <Syria> almoxarife:  master volume and speaker are at 97% but some other values can not be changed, like S/PDIF
[08:33] <almoxarife> Syria: ok, close alsamixer and go to 'sound' preferences
[08:34] <Syria> almoxarife: Done.
[08:34] <almoxarife> Syria: look at 'hardware', what's picked?
[08:34] <Syria> almoxarife: Analog stereo dublex.
[08:34] <Syria> Duplex*
[08:35] <almoxarife> Syria: you looking at hardware tab?
[08:35] <Syria> almoxarife: Yes.
[08:35] <atvr> Stanley00: i cant find anything with that link, but if i try ereasing all what is after quiet splash ans then put nomodeset, do you think it will work
[08:36] <almoxarife> Syria: the first text line is "Analog stereo duplex' ???
[08:37] <Syria> almoxarife: Nope, it is the last one.
[08:37] <Stanley00> atvr: I last think I can think of now if clear "qiuet splash", add "nomodeset" to see what happen, then search for that info in the internet
[08:37] <almoxarife> Syria: how about the first?
[08:37] <Syria> almoxarife: The first one is analog stereo input.
[08:38] <almoxarife> Syria: those are the 'profile' choices?
[08:39] <Syria> almoxarife: I am at the hardware tab and I have >> settings for the selected device>> its a drop down menu.
[08:40] <antipragmatist> Hi.
[08:40] <antipragmatist> Your version is: java version "1.6.0_23".
[08:40] <antipragmatist> The correct version is: Java SE 1.6.
[08:41] <almoxarife> Syria: above that, 'device to configure' what is highlited?
[08:41] <atvr> Stanley00: so i did that, and now i have this written on the screen, ``vincent"vincent-Satellite-L745D:
[08:41] <antipragmatist> how do I force it to think it is 1.6
[08:41] <atvr> Stanley00: and it scrap my wifi conection every time im trying to boot :S
[08:42] <Syria> almoxarife: I can control which device to configure from the drop down menu below. anyway i have analog stereo duplex.
[08:42] <Stanley00> atvr: anything else? that line doesnt look like an error message.
[08:42] <almoxarife> Syria: I am looking at the screen from 11.10, and you?
[08:42] <Stanley00> atvr: can you disable the wifi interface when booting? looks like it's not the video card issue
[08:42] <Eartaker> anyone know how to setup dual monitors so that it wont split a fullscreen game onto both monitors but also when not in game to be able to drag applications from one monitor to another.. I have tried seterate X screen and twin view...
[08:43] <Syria> almoxarife:  11.04
[08:43] <massrevivalist> Does anyone want to be my friend?
[08:43] <Syria> almoxarife: I will show you a screenshot.
[08:43] <atvr> Stanley00: at the end of the line i can put some command
[08:43] <ubluntu> massrevivalist: I do
[08:43] <atvr> Stanley00: i cant disable the wifi
[08:43] <massrevivalist> Nice
[08:44] <Syria> almoxarife: Please: http://uploads.eb2a.ae/1325321032882.png
[08:44] <almoxarife> Syria: lets see the 'output' tab
[08:45] <Syria> almoxarife: http://uploads.eb2a.ae/1325321130638.png
[08:46] <dahlia> I see a little message come up that says updates are available for my freshly installed kubuntu but I dont see any way to tell it to install them
[08:46] <Stanley00> atvr: I think it's out of my ability  now, sorry, you should ask someone else. sorry. I have never met this kind of issue.
[08:46] <dahlia> is there an update manager thing somewhere?
[08:46] <almoxarife> Syria: alrighty, dummy-output came from ??
[08:47] <Syria> almoxarife: analog stereo duplex.
[08:47] <almoxarife> Syria: nope
[08:47] <Syria> almoxarife: where did it come from?
[08:48] <almoxarife> Syria: where is the hdmi hardware you brought up before?
[08:48] <Syria> almoxarife: I have an HDMI port in my laptop.
[08:52] <atvr> Stanley00: Stanley00: not it says, to run a command as administrator (user ``root``), use ``sudo (command)``
[08:53] <atvr> Stanley00: and i just dont know why its fuckking my wifi
[08:53] <Stanley00> atvr: hmm, looks like some thing it says on the live USB. how did you install this, and what iso image did you use
[08:53] <almoxarife> Syria: I have hdmi and analog, I see both on my setup, I only see one piece of 'hardware' , 'internal audio analog' on yours, and where I would expect to see the same 'internal..................' in 'output' I see 'dummy....' , that does not just happen by virgin birth, something was done to cause that,
[08:54] <atvr> Stanley00: ive installed by a usb boot stick and ive use the alternative .iso from ubuntu
[08:55] <Stanley00> atvr: did you install a full desktop or just the command system only?
[08:55] <almoxarife> Syria: try to logout/in and look for a default setup, you can hope
[08:55] <atvr> Stanley00: full desktop
[08:56] <Syria> almoxarife: I will, Thank you for your time. :)
[08:58] <atvr> Stanley00: would it be easyier if i would download the not alternative iso, and burn it on a cd and to instal it put the nomodeset command
[08:59] <Stanley00> atvr: I dont get it, if you use an alternate cd to install, it will not need the nomodeset parameter, since it wont boot in GUI.
[09:00] <antipragmatist> how to kill package manager build?
[09:00] <antipragmatist> it is stalled
[09:00] <antipragmatist> how to kill package manager install ?
[09:00] <Stanley00> atvr: if you could boot into the command line interface, you may run "startx" to start GUI, and then find for some wifi issue in the internet.
[09:00] <almoxarife> Stanley00: have you used the 'alternate' install?
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[09:00] <Stanley00> atvr: I'm not good at hardware problem.
[09:01] <Stanley00> almoxarife: I use that once, with 9.10 :D
[09:01] <almoxarife> Stanley00: that's all I ever use, and it will take you to a gui after install
[09:02] <almoxarife> Stanley00: the 'alternate' is for quirky setups, and if you read up something written after 9.10 you will find that it is recommended for just that!
[09:05] <almoxarife> anyone else getting the ssl handshake error? got a fix?
[09:05] <Stanley00> almoxarife: and... what are you trying to point out? I dont get it.
[09:07] <almoxarife> Stanley00: I was pointing out that you were offering opinion on something you have no experience with, as you made clear when you brought up '............. 9.10 smily'
[09:08] <Stanley00> almoxarife: I didnt said anything about alternate cd with him, and also alternate cd has option to install CLI, and he said he cant boot into gui, so I just make sure he installed a full desktop.
[09:09] <atvr> Stanley00: i have a cd with ubuntu 9.04 on it, do you want me to instal this version to see if it will work, and if it work i will update to 11.10
[09:10] <sweb> my wireless card disappear !!!
[09:11] <Stanley00> atvr: I dont think that's a good idea.
[09:11] <beyondcr> hello could you point me to the 12.04 channel?
[09:11] <Stanley00> !pangolin | beyondcr
[09:11] <beyondcr> thanks
[09:11] <sweb> WTF dlink-dwa-525
[09:11] <atvr> Stanley00: i know but for now i just dont know what to do
[09:11] <sweb> on ubuntu
[09:11] <sweb> how can i debuging that ?
[09:12] <beyondcr> #ubuntu+1
[09:12] <Stanley00> almoxarife: can you suggest something, atvr's wifi not working, and freeze his system
[09:12] <JackDacks> Hello everyone. Sorry to bother you but I'm wondering if you know any Backtrack IRC channel/server ?
[09:12] <almoxarife> Stanley00: that's my point, 'alternate' IS a full desktop install, the bonus is that it was made for QUIRKY hardware, so as to facilitate in getting the install done 100% , it does ask that you be connected to the internet via hardwire
[09:13] <Stanley00> !alis | JackDacks I dont know, but try this
[09:13] <JackDacks> thank you
[09:13] <atvr> almoxarife: so it would be better for my to install with the non-alternative version
[09:13] <atvr> me**
[09:14] <almoxarife> atvr: no, it would be best if you use the 'alternate'  and be connected to the internet via ethernet. can you do that?
[09:14] <meco> Where do I find Google Chrome on my system?
[09:15] <atvr> almoxarife: no i am on a laptop i would prefer using wi-fi
[09:15] <ChefBaggins> almoxarife, atvr, sorry to jump into your conversation but wouldn't it be better to start with Ubuntu 10.04 LTS if it's the first use?
[09:15] <atvr> Stanley00: if my windows running un 64bit, can i download ubuntu 11.10 64bit
[09:15] <ChefBaggins> meco: you must download it wia google
[09:15] <meco> ChefBaggins: I have it, just need to locate it
[09:15] <JackDacks> Thank you for your help. Have a good day. Bye
[09:15] <almoxarife> atvr: good luck
[09:16] <Stanley00> atvr: yes, you can
[09:16] <atvr> Stanley00: okep i will try to install it via a burnt cd and with the non alternative ios, maybe it will work
[09:17] <ChefBaggins> meco: have you installed it? if not it would be in your download folder, if you did in internet section of application (I do thing you've been there therefore, check "edit menus" if it's not present)
[09:17] <meco> ChefBaggins: I need to find it in terminal...
[09:17] <ChefBaggins> meco, we're getting there! :D google-chrome
[09:18] <Stanley00> atvr: good luck, but you can use the USB to install, it's just the same as the liveCD, there's a tool on the homepage to make liveUSB from window
[09:18] <almoxarife> ChefBaggins: I noticed that I was able to get hdmi to work out of the box with the 11.04 install, using 'alternate' , but not 11.10, not sure about 10.04 , if he upgrades those things always screw something up (my experience)
[09:18] <meco> ChefBaggins: google-chrome: command not found
[09:19] <almoxarife> !chromium-browser
[09:19] <almoxarife> !info chromium-browser
[09:19] <meco> almoxarife: found it :-)
[09:20] <almoxarife> meco: chromium is not chrome, just in case
[09:20] <quiescens> i sense people are misinterpreting the question
[09:21] <almoxarife> quiescens: my god? here? I can't believe that
[09:21] <almoxarife> smily face
[09:21] <meco> almoxarife: Does Google have more than one browser?
[09:23] <Eartaker> anyone know wht no matter what disk i put in my drive it askes me to insert disk when I try to bun an iso?
[09:23] <Eartaker> why*
[09:23] <almoxarife> meco: depends I guess, chrome is the store model, and chromium is their testbed, sort of the same thing but not, I use chromium and accept that things might go wrong
[09:23] <atvr> does anyone haved an issue installing ubuntu 11.10 with a amd radeon graphic card
[09:24] <meco> almoxarife: OK, I just need it for temporary use until I can get firefox back up...
[09:24] <Eartaker> atvr: install 10.04
[09:25] <almoxarife> meco: dude/ette, chromium is steak to firefox
[09:25] <atvr> Eartaker: do you think it will be working fine cuz its a 1month old laptop
[09:25] <Eartaker> atvr: what issues are you havving
[09:25] <Eartaker> having
[09:25] <meco> almoxarife: steak? better or worse?
[09:25] <almoxarife> atvr: you must have a ethernet connection on that beast, why not connect it while installing
[09:26] <man_man_top_cool> bonjour à tous
[09:26] <almoxarife> meco: better :)
[09:26] <cockmaster> Is it possible to dual-boot Ubuntu with Mac OS X Lion on a Macintosh computer?
[09:26] <meco> almoxarife: Is that everyone's opinion?
[09:26] <atvr> Eartaker: black screen, it does not detect my screen, and it fuck up my wifi
[09:26] <Hordeking> Hey, is there a known issue with the Wifi Broadcom drivers for the 4312 LP-PHY? I'm having major issues, with fresh installations.
[09:26] <man_man_top_cool> sorry, l have only windows
[09:27] <man_man_top_cool> my english is not good
[09:27] <atvr> almoxarife: i could plug into ethernet while installing but after could i use my wifi
[09:27] <almoxarife> meco: sort of, according to the polling people, its getting ahead of firefox and IE, ie??? yeah, hard to believe
[09:27] <Hordeking> I'm getting ready to roll back to the 10.10 LTS version.
[09:27] <almoxarife> atvr: yes, that will work
[09:27] <man_man_top_cool> nobody is french here ?
[09:27] <almoxarife> Hordeking: from where?
[09:27] <meco> almoxarife: Yeah.. I might have to switch then...
[09:28] <atvr> almoxarife: okep then do you suggest me to instal 10.04 instead of 11.10
[09:28] <ChefBaggins> cockmaster: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[09:28] <Hordeking> almoxarife: From where? From the official ubuntu website,
[09:28] <man_man_top_cool> almostroot, france
[09:28] <ChefBaggins> man_man_top_cool: oui, moi
[09:28] <Hordeking> It "just worked" before 11.10
[09:28] <almoxarife> atvr: nope, be strong, do ittttttttttttttttt
[09:28] <man_man_top_cool> ah
[09:28] <Hordeking> I skipped 11.04
[09:28] <man_man_top_cool> ouf
[09:28] <cockmaster> ChefBaggins: Thank you kindly.
[09:29] <almoxarife> Hordeking: no, I mean from what version are you downgrading?
[09:29] <ChefBaggins> man_man_top_cool: vient sur #ubuntu-fr ce sera plus simple
[09:29] <man_man_top_cool> ChefBaggins, je cherche un site pour vuze
[09:29] <Hordeking> almoxarife: 11.10
[09:29] <Ben64> how can you downgrade
[09:29] <Hordeking> Ben64: Easy. Blow away the OS, install an earlier version.
[09:30] <Ben64> thats reinstalling
[09:30] <almoxarife> Hordeking: may I suggest not, try plasma-desktop, its 10.04 with the 3.0 kernel
[09:30] <atvr> almoxarife: XD so will instal a fresh copy of 11.10 and plug into the ethernet, but i will have the black screen issue do you, so does the nomodeset is ok, becaus that the way i was able to instal it earlyier today
[09:30] <Hordeking> Ben64: Call it what you want, but the current version is BADly broken.
[09:30] <ChefBaggins> man_man_top_cool: que veux-tu dire par un site pour Vuze?
[09:30] <Ben64> Hordeking: i 'upgraded' from 10.04 to 12.04... big mistake
[09:30] <kerryb> first time I've tried ubuntu.... i tried 11.10, didn't like it.....tried 10.04, it's much better
[09:30] <Hordeking> almoxarife: What does plasma-desktop do?
[09:30] <The_Phoenix> Which one is the 64bit torrent? AMD64? Isn't it AMD only?
[09:30] <almoxarife> atvr: and you will use the 'alternate' iso, too
[09:30] <pp7> kerryb: LOL y?
[09:31] <atvr> almoxarife: and my pc work on 64bit do you recomend me to use ubuntu 64bit, and the non alternative or the alternative
[09:31] <Ben64> i haven't seen such a broken ubuntu since Gutsy Gibbon
[09:31] <pp7> Ben64: upgrades never work
[09:31] <almoxarife> Hordeking: gives you all that config you had with 10.04
[09:31] <Ben64> pp7: sure they do
[09:31] <quiescens> downgrading the distribution as a whole is not recommended and unlikely to have anyone support it
[09:31] <pp7> Ben64: always failed for me, something always breaks
[09:31] <quiescens> of course you made backups before trying to upgrade to an in development release
[09:31] <kerryb> pp7:  probably because i'm still using windows classic which is more similar to windows 98 LOL
[09:31] <almoxarife> atvr: use the alternate 64 install
[09:32] <Ben64> pp7: on this computer, i went Edgy -> Feisty -> Gutsy -> Hardy with no problems
[09:32] <quiescens> which isn't due out for 4 or so months
[09:32] <atvr> almoxarife: but after i have installed the 11.10 with nomodeset i was not able to boot again even if i had edit the grub comand
[09:32] <almoxarife> atvr: use the alternate 64 install and you promised to be hardwired to the internet
[09:32] <Hordeking> almoxarife: I don't need a special config. I just want working wifi. Right now, I have to do constant ifconfig <interface> down; ifconfig <interface> up
[09:32] <pp7> Ben64: oh, i started at hardy
[09:32] <The_Phoenix> Anybody? Am looking for Ubuntu 64 bit torrent for Intel. Which is the right one?
[09:33] <Ben64> I had really bad experiences with Gutsy, going to stick with LTS versions now
[09:33] <Ben64> The_Phoenix: the amd64 version
[09:33] <libnotify> I am looking into building a small shell account server. any way i can configure the server so that users are able to download what they need but not change system settings?
[09:33] <The_Phoenix> Ben64: Isn't AMD64 for AMD only?
[09:33] <Ben64> The_Phoenix: nope
[09:33] <jpds> The_Phoenix: No.
[09:33] <Church> Phoenix: as most cpus from amd and intel know support 64bit, i'd probably choose depending on ram ammount. upto 2-3GB - i386 version, 4 and more - amd64.
[09:33] <Ben64> amd was first with 64 bit, so they win
[09:33] <almoxarife> atvr: screw all that terminal stuff till it comes up, for the love of god, just get the install out of the way, btw, those install options are pretty generic, don't get carried away with exotics during the install, straight forward put system on machine
[09:34] <Hordeking> I really didn't think wireless was going to regress with a fresh install up to 11.10.
[09:34] <Ben64> Hordeking: wait, what happened with your wireless?
[09:34] <fidel> libnotify: what do you mean by "downloading what they need"?
[09:34] <The_Phoenix> I have 4GB. But, the AMD64 and Intel64 have slight differences.
[09:34] <NimeshNeema> !man ubottu
[09:34] <Hordeking> Ben64: Hardware is probably fine. OS seems to have major issues with it now.
[09:35] <NimeshNeema> !man
[09:35] <The_Phoenix> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64#Differences_between_AMD64_and_Intel_64
[09:35] <NimeshNeema> !apt
[09:35] <Ben64> Hordeking: on 10.04 my laptop was doing fine with wireless, on 12.04 i'm getting ~10% of the throughput as 10.04 did
[09:35] <atvr> almoxarife: okay i will try to install it right away i will download the alternative installation, and if i have issue regarding the black screen can i ask you some help
[09:35] <quiescens> The_Phoenix: the biggest difference being that nothing actually uses intel's IA64 these days
[09:35] <almoxarife> Hordeking: during an install ubuntu calls back to mama, well it would unless you got wifi and its secured
[09:35] <jpds> The_Phoenix: Intel 64 is something completely different.
[09:35] <Hordeking> Ben64: My wireless was flawless with 10.10, but cam barely stay up.
[09:35] <libnotify> fidel: mean if they like want to install console apps
[09:35] <jpds> The_Phoenix: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itanium
[09:35] <Ben64> Hordeking: intel wireless chip perchance?
[09:36] <almoxarife> atvr: sure
[09:36] <Hordeking> Ben64: broadcom. Was working fine for 9.04 through 10.10
[09:36] <The_Phoenix> Anyway, thanks for the clarification Ben64, jpds and quiescens. Am just trying to get the 64 bit version for a Sandy Bridge i3.
[09:36] <cockmaster> Can I somehow hack a way to port Ubuntu's apt-get to Mac OS X?
[09:36] <Ben64> The_Phoenix: the amd64 version is what you want then
[09:36] <fidel> libnotify: i doubt you are willing to give shell-users access to apt
[09:36] <atvr> almoxarife: my hardware is a amd vision a6 so does i have to download the 64bit-pc amd64
[09:36] <The_Phoenix> thanks Ben64.
[09:37] <libnotify> yes exactly
[09:37] <Hordeking> I'm very surprised my wifi hasn't needed a reset yet...
[09:37] <almoxarife> atvr: you want the 'alternate-amd64-11.10'
[09:37] <Ben64> i wonder what changed for wireless to break
[09:37] <Hordeking> Ben64: Possibly the kernel itself?
[09:38] <almoxarife> Hordeking: are you using wifi(n)?
[09:38] <Hordeking> Ben64: I saw something like that.
[09:38] <libnotify> so there is no way to give them access to apt but they are unable to make system changes?
[09:38] <fidel> libnotify: how about adding a custom welcome message including a mailadress a la: user-wishes@your-domain.whatever and handle that part manually in case someone really needs something?
[09:38] <Ben64> Hordeking: i guess it could be...
[09:38] <Hordeking> almoxarife: Not that I know of.
[09:38] <atvr> almoxarife: okep, and one last thing lol would it be possible for you to give me a direct link for the download only to make sure i really have the good thing
[09:38] <Ben64> I should try compiling an older kernel
[09:38] <Hordeking> almoxarife: My router is a WRT54GL
[09:38] <cockmaster> Is it possbile to install some version of Ubuntu on an iPad?
[09:39] <Hordeking> almoxarife: It was certainly working before I took the OS up to 11.10
[09:39] <almoxarife> atvr: nope, I would be doing the same thing you need to do, I will be glad to verify your link though
[09:40] <atvr> almoxarife: http://ubuntu-cd.mirror.iweb.ca/oneiric/ubuntu-11.10-alternate-amd64.iso
[09:40] <Hordeking> almoxarife: There do seem to be major wifi issues with Ubuntu 11+
[09:40] <almoxarife> Hordeking: I don't use wifi at home, wife does though, so I use her as a test-bed (she don't know it) , and the router has a lot to do with the quality of the wifi
[09:41] <Ben64> almoxarife: my wireless has gotten very bad after upgrading too
[09:41] <almoxarife> atvr: looks good, torrent would be faster but good
[09:41] <Hordeking> almoxarife: Even if it seemed to be flawless before? I don't seem to get a poor connection. I get a downright intermittent one, and it's only solved by resetting the interface with ifconfig.
[09:41] <atvr> almoxarife: yeah but i dont have bit torrent
[09:42] <cockmaster> Can any of you Ubuntu niggers tell me if there is any way to use Ubuntu as a tablet? Like some Android tablet but Ubuntu instead?
[09:42] <pp7> cockmaster: refine your language please
[09:42] <almoxarife> atvr: d/l it regular method
[09:42] <atvr> almoxarife: okep
[09:42] <kerryb> my only internet acces is dialup....do i need to download a package to use dialup? which package do i use?  http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/comm/
[09:43] <almoxarife> !ops
[09:43] <atvr> almoxarife: thanks alot for your time
[09:43] <ngochoan> co ai ngyuo
[09:43] <ngochoan> nguoi vietnam ko////////////
[09:43] <almoxarife> cockmaster: you need to go
[09:43] <ngochoan> viet nam oi
[09:43] <ngochoan> viet nam oi
[09:43] <FloodBot1> ngochoan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:43] <ngochoan> viet nam oi
[09:43] <cockmaster> almoxarife: Why?
[09:43] <pp7> cockmaster: racial remarks are not welcome
[09:44] <cockmaster> Ok, sorry. Where are the #ubuntu rules to read?
[09:44] <elky> cockmaster, in the /topic
[09:44] <ChefBaggins> cockmaster: yes there is a way to install Ubuntu on a tablet, the best for you is to google that...
[09:45] <Hordeking> almoxarife: Even if it seemed to be flawless before? I don't seem to get a poor connection. I get a downright intermittent one, and it's only solved by resetting the interface with ifconfig. It's terrible.
[09:45] <quiescens> tecchhnicallyy
[09:46] <Humbedooh> nooo
[09:46] <allu2> Hello, my ubuntu 11.10 suddenly lost support for my USB headset
[09:46] <Humbedooh> not quiescens in here too :(
[09:46] <allu2> i see it in volume settings "Hardware" section and i can select it but it doesn't appear on other menus
[09:47] <almoxarife> Hordeking: I gave up on wifi in the house, tried the ethernet via electrical line? the voip phone runs flawless on it, just a bit lower than regular ethernet
[09:47] <allu2> also the test speakers button gives me menu that looks like i'd have 5.1 stereo set yet even there none of the test work for the headset
[09:47] <cockmaster> NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGERNIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NI
[09:48] <fidel> lol
[09:48] <Eartaker> what is the command to see the device name of a disk drive?
[09:48] <Humbedooh> df ?
[09:49] <Eartaker> hmm
[09:49] <almoxarife> Eartaker: 'computer'?
[09:49] <Hordeking> almoxarife: My main box has an ethernet, which works fine, after the D-Link from 4 years ago in it still isn't supported. The wifi issue is with a laptop computer, where ethernet isn't a very viable option.
[09:49] <quiescens> ..
[09:49] <Eartaker> its not seeing my disk drive
[09:49] <Eartaker> but im I insert a disk it pops up and mounts
[09:50] <Eartaker> not for a blank disk though
[09:50] <Humbedooh> how would you mount a blank disk anywho :<
[09:50] <Eartaker> i guess you woulding but im trying to burn a iso
[09:50] <jonsaint> hi all. i got pidgin messenger which i just set up. problem i got is i got one single box telling me no accounts set up and to go to accounts to add one. problem is, i cant find out how to get there as i only got this single box telling me that
[09:50] <Hordeking> I'll probably just blow the current OS away and roll back to 11.10. I didn't care for the fact that I had to go to so much trouble to get gnome back anyway.
[09:51] <Hordeking> Roll back to 10.10
[09:51] <almoxarife> Eartaker: nevermind seeing it, what are you trying to do with your blank?
[09:51] <Eartaker> almoxarife: trying to burn a iso
[09:51] <Humbedooh> k3b is your friend :>
[09:51] <Humbedooh> or gnomebaker
[09:51] <almoxarife> Eartaker: brasero?
[09:51] <Humbedooh> or brasero
[09:51] <Eartaker> I have tried K3b but it dosnt see it
[09:51] <Eartaker> and brasero
[09:52] <Eartaker> K3b says this:
[09:52] <Eartaker> K3b did not find any optical device in your system.
[09:52] <Eartaker> Solution: Make sure HAL daemon is running, it is used by K3b for finding devices.
[09:52] <mysteriousdarren> Hordeking: are you that much in love with gnome?
[09:52] <almoxarife> Eartaker: brasero does not see the drive with the blank in it?
[09:52] <Eartaker> almoxarife: nope
[09:53] <Hordeking>  mysteriousdarren: I like my desktop real estate, and I kind of like having the taskbars :) But wifi is the killer here.
[09:53] <almoxarife> Hordeking: join #kubuntu for a sec
[09:53] <Hordeking> almoxarife: #kubuntu
[09:54] <Eartaker> my disk drive is also not in "computer"
[09:55] <NimeshNeema> apt
[09:55] <mysteriousdarren> Hordeking: well switch to a different de and then there is no reason to roll back
[09:56] <Sidewinder1> Eartaker, It may be a "+RW, -RW", issue; I have two 'burners (a +RW and a -RW) and sometimes a blank will only work (be seen) by one.
[09:56] <Eartaker> Sidewinder1: its a cd-r
[09:56] <Eartaker> not dvdv
[09:56] <Eartaker> dvd
[09:56] <NimeshNeema> how to install java on 11.10
[09:58] <Sidewinder1> Eartaker, R stands fro 'read' W stands for 'write', those designations are used on both CDs and DVDs.
[09:58] <pooja> NimeshNeema: sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk
[09:58] <Sidewinder1> for, even; 'tis early here. :-)
[09:58] <Eartaker> Sidewinder1: i know this... its not hardware it works fine in windows
[09:59] <mysteriousdarren> Hordeking: what are you problems with wifi?
[09:59] <Hordeking> I can't even figure that out. It just goes down a lot, for no reason. I have to do an ifconfig down on it, then an ifconfig up to get it back.
[10:00] <Hordeking> It seems to do it more when I'm actually using the connection, though
[10:00] <Sidewinder1> Eartaker, Actually I think I made a mistake (fancy that), the W means re-writable, sorry.
[10:01] <Hordeking> mysteriousdarren: It wasn't having this problem on 10.10, so I highly doubt it's a hardware problem.
[10:03] <Hordeking> mysteriousdarren: I don't recall dmesg giving any illumination
[10:03] <mysteriousdarren> reinstall the driver?
[10:04] <Hordeking> mysteriousdarren: I've tried. I've tried just reinstalling the OS itself. I've tried the b43-fwcutter and stuff, etc
[10:04] <ciphersson> suck my balls unity
[10:06] <mysteriousdarren> ciphersson: even though I do agree with that statement better watch it
[10:07] <kerryb> does ubuntu support a dialup connection?
[10:08] <mrhanky> i have a ubuntu net-install with xorg and xbmc. since xbmc crashed one time ubuntu wont boot, it will hang with the message "mountall: disconnected from plymouth"
[10:08] <mrhanky> that's the second time this is happening and i have no idea how to fix it
[10:09] <Sidewinder1> !modem | kerryb
[10:09] <kerryb> ubottu thanks!
[10:10] <Sidewinder1> :D
[10:12] <Sidewinder1> Finally, someone who's spelling is worse than mine. ;-)
[10:19] <mikeru> hey, how can I recompile the alsa drivers?
[10:19] <mikeru> (I only want to recompile the snd-hda-codec-cirrus one)
[10:20] <chromaticwt> will the next release of ubuntu use python 3 by default instead of python 2?
[10:20] <oCean> chromaticwt: you can discuss the next release in #ubuntu+1 channel
[10:21] <mikeru> I'm on 11.10. I tried apt-get source alsa-drivers, patched the patch_cirrus.c file (a minor tweak, changing the GPIO1 to 2 for the iMac's headphone jack to work) and when I debuild'd and installed the packages it told me to install m-a to compile the drivers
[10:21] <mikeru> I did
[10:21] <mikeru> but
[10:21] <chromaticwt> ok
[10:21] <ariefage> i have blackbuntu
[10:21] <ariefage> i'm from indonesia
[10:21] <ariefage> hi all
[10:21] <mikeru> compile fails with <linux/smp_lock.h> not found (which is no longer needed)
[10:22] <oCean> ariefage: please not that blackbuntu is not a supported ubuntu derivative, and offtopic here
[10:22] <oCean> please note*
[10:22] <mikeru> I can't help but wonder -- with what sources do the ubuntu maintaners build packages? aren't the source packages supposed to be the same as the one used by them?
[10:23] <atotclic> !voice es
[10:23] <linxeh> mikeru: you could grep the source to find where else that file is referenced
[10:23] <mikeru> it does include patches in the debian dir but most of them actually break compilation even more (and some actually add the <linux/smp_lock.h> to the sources)
[10:24] <mikeru> linxeh: yes I did. then I had to edit some @CONFIG_(something)_KERNELSRC@ to @CONFIG_(something)_KERNELDIR@
[10:24] <mikeru> and then, I stumbled upon some #include "imgs/cssomethng.h" which can't be found
[10:24] <mikeru> and indeed, there's no imgs folder.
[10:24] <mikeru> (and there are like 4 includes to files in that dir)
[10:25] <oCean> mikeru: you could ask in #ubuntu-devel channel
[10:25] <mikeru> oCean: ok, will do. thanks
[10:26] <hrolf> Why is the difference between the normal Firefox and the one installed in Ubuntu?
[10:29] <atotclic> !voice <voice name>
[10:29] <Sidewinder1> hrolf, I would assume that "normal" FF is windows based and the latter linux based; different directory structure, different plug-ins, etc..
[10:30] <atotclic> !voice spanish
[10:30] <oCean> atotclic: what are you looking for?
[10:30] <Sidewinder1> !es | atotclic
[10:30] <hrolf> Sidewinder1: By 'windows based' do you mean MS Windows OS?
[10:30] <Sidewinder1> hrolf, Yes.
[10:31] <Sidewinder1> hrolf, I'm assuming that's what you meant by 'normal.'
[10:32] <hrolf> Sidewinder1: If the other one is for Linux, then why is it Ubuntu only. Shouldn't it be like Firefox for Linux rather than Firefox for Ubuntu
[10:33] <hrolf> Sidewinder1: I think it is mostly like something with Ubuntu
[10:34] <flux242> hi, i'm trying the following diff <$(grep some strings myFile) <$(grep some string myFile2)
[10:34] <flux242> what is the right syntax for this?
[10:34] <flux242> or how it is called correctlry so i google for it
[10:35] <samba35> how to add mod_proxy_html in apache
[10:35] <flux242> that a command output is interpreted as a file descriptor
[10:36] <Sidewinder1> hrolf, Perhaps have a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox  It states that it's linux compatible as well as other OSs.. Most certainly not an exclusive ubuntu browser regarding it's *nix varient.
[10:37] <atvr> i need to install a fresh copy of ubuntu 11.10 on my laptop with a usb boot stick, how do i format my hdd
[10:37] <hrolf> Sidewinder1: I know that. I think you didn't understand the problem (or I failed to explain it.)
[10:38] <iceroot> atvr: why not using the recommend layout ubuntu will suggest?
[10:38] <acer_> arif
[10:38] <acer_> heloo
[10:39] <hrolf> atvr: Get Ubuntu on your USB stick and then, during installation you will be able to format your HDD as you desire.
[10:39] <ekakela> atvr: the installer lets you partition and format your drive during the installation
[10:39] <atvr> iceroot: cuz i am installing with the alternative version and the only thing i can do is rescue the previos version
[10:39] <Sidewinder1> hrolf, Perhaps you're correct; it's early, here and I need my second cup-o-coffee. Please feel free to restate your question.. BRB.
[10:39] <oCean> flux242: I'm not sure how to do that in a oneliner. You could do a  grep strings file1 > grep1.out  and same for file2, then run  diff grep1.out grep2.out
[10:39] <sl1ck> I've fallen in love with LXDE! I regret not trying it any sooner.
[10:39] <atvr> i am new to linux
[10:39] <nixmaniack> i have USB Mouse attached which I can see in `lsusb`, how can identify which file from this "/sys/bus/usb/devices" directory belongs to mouse?
[10:39] <atvr> could you exlaine me step by step the how to, it would be very apreciated
[10:40] <hrolf> atvr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[10:40] <iceroot> atvr: the alternate should offer "kill all data on the hdd and make a new install"
[10:41] <flux242> ok, I've found the correct syntax
[10:41] <sl1ck> How do I switch keyboard layouts in LXDE?
[10:41] <almoxarife> atvr: you don't need to format a thing, if the usb is ready then start the install
[10:41] <jbuchanan> sl1ck: xmodmap would probably be easiest.
[10:41]  * WiLd_TuRkeY dies from to much technology
[10:42] <atvr> when i am at the first menu, wich i can choose to only try it or install it, when i press enter on the install, my laptop beep and it dose nothing
[10:42] <sl1ck> thanks jbuchanan, now how do I add a second keyboard layout?
[10:42] <szal> hmm..  how do I browse network shares w/ Thunar (XFCE; Lucid)?
[10:43] <almoxarife> atvr: you are using the live cd?
[10:43] <ariefage> www.blackbuntu.com
[10:43] <atvr> almoxarife: yes with a usb
[10:43] <ariefage> download it!
[10:43] <oCean> ariefage: don't post that here
[10:43] <ariefage> this great
[10:43] <ariefage> upss.
[10:43] <ariefage> sorry
[10:43] <ariefage> im new here
[10:44] <atvr> almoxarife: i am at the installer boot menu
[10:44] <ariefage> sorry sorry
[10:44] <almoxarife> atvr: ok, so that's the live cd on usb
[10:45] <atvr> almoxarife: yes it is
[10:45] <linkux> how i can install themes from gnome.art.org on UBUNTU 11.10
[10:45] <atvr> almoxarife: you suggest me to put it on my usb to instal it do you remember lol and you suggest me too plus into the ethernet for the installation too
[10:46] <atvr> plug**
[10:46] <linkux> need help how i can install themes from gnome.art.org on UBUNTU 11.10
[10:47] <linkux> need help how i can install themes from http://art.gnome.org/ on UBUNTU 11.10
[10:47] <Church> linkux: you could simply google for that instead of repeating question
[10:47] <theadmin> !repeat | linkux
[10:47] <almoxarife> atvr: I remember suggesting the 'alternate-amd64-11.10'
[10:47] <atvr> almoxarife: yes
[10:47] <oCean> Church: please don't refer to google here, thanks
[10:47] <Church> hmm, why? :/
[10:47] <theadmin> !google | Church
[10:48] <linkux> ok thanks
[10:48] <atvr> almoxarife: so how do i instal it
[10:49] <almoxarife> atvr: no idea, you have the livecd install according to what you just said earlier
[10:50] <silus> !ops ClubHOuSe fucker!!
[10:50] <silus> :)))
[10:50] <FloodBot1> silus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:50] <atvr> almoxarife: i dont know if its the live cd instal, my screen is in black and white and to choose the option i have to use the keyboard
[10:51] <Sidewinder1> !ru | silus
[10:51] <silus> no need
[10:51] <bazhang> silus, why do you call that
[10:52] <troydm> what's the best way to connect to host using ssh when you have a bunch of keys in keychain that are getting offered and server hits too many authentication errors?
[10:52] <silus> i`m new here just want to see iff it works
[10:52] <troydm> is it possible to explicitly specify with-password option ?
[10:52] <atvr> almoxarife: i will try somthing, i have a cd here that make me able to format the hdd so i will format and then try to instal it, does that sound good
[10:52] <troydm> instead of offerening all those keys
[10:52] <pnorman> troydm: It's possible to set up ssh to only offer a specified key or use a password
[10:52] <almoxarife> atvr: (02:42:19) atvr: when i am at the first menu, wich i can choose to only try it or install it, when i press enter on the install, my laptop beep and it dose nothing <-- I don't believe 'try' is an option of alternate
[10:52] <Sidewinder1> silus, Guess you got your answer. :)
[10:53] <troydm> pnorman: yes, using -I  iguess?
[10:53] <bazhang> silus, it's only for channel emergencies, don't do that again
[10:53] <atvr> almoxarife: but i have downloaded the alternat version, and in the .iso it says alternat
[10:53] <troydm> pnorman: but what if i want password authentication
[10:53] <pnorman> troydm: You can either do it in ~/.ssh/config or with a command line option. The exact syntax escapes me
[10:53] <silus> ok bazhang :_)
[10:56] <atvr> almoxarife: it dont says try it but run it on this usb, sorry for that
[10:56] <WiLd_TuRkeY> got my first mention on twitter from the homenaway :D
[10:56] <oCean> WiLd_TuRkeY: please use #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[10:56] <troydm> found it
[10:56] <troydm> alias sshp="ssh -oPasswordAuthentication=yes -o HostbasedAuthentication=no -o PubkeyAuthentication=no"
[10:56] <WiLd_TuRkeY> sorry oCean thort i was in another general chat-room
[10:57] <pnorman> troydm: Ah, there you go. You might want to look at setting up your ssh config to not offer so many keys up to unspecified hosts
[10:57] <almoxarife> atvr: what did you use to place the iso on the usb?
[10:58] <troydm> pnorman: yeah that might be another way
[10:58] <nigelb> Hi, what's the right way to get rid of this dpkg error for this package? I don't care about the package, I'm happy to remove it http://paste.ubuntu.com/788733/
[10:58] <atvr> almoxarife: uneversal usb installer, ive download it on ubuntu web site
[11:01] <silus> what is that line ?
[11:01] <silus> alias sshp="ssh -oPasswordAuthentication=yes -o HostbasedAuthentication=no -o PubkeyAuthentication=no"
[11:01] <pnorman> silus: that was what troydm used for his ssh problem
[11:02] <silus> what was his ssh problem?
[11:02] <troydm> silus: it's an alias (basicly shortcut) to a full command
[11:02] <pnorman> silus: too many keys
[11:03] <troydm> silus: of ssh password only authentication
[11:03] <silus> to many keys so what?
[11:03] <pnorman> silus: ssh can authenticate with keys instead of passwords
[11:03] <silus> .ssh is login telenet and all the passwords?
[11:03] <silus> and can`t go wild?
[11:03] <troydm> silus: when i try to use ssh to connect to host instead of offering me to type password it rejects my connections
[11:04] <troydm> silus: because my ssh is offerening him a lot of keys
[11:04] <troydm> silus: before offerening password
[11:04] <silus> is a ubuntu problem?
[11:05] <silus> yes i found this problem to.
[11:05] <troydm> silus: no sorry, it's general type of problem
[11:05] <phoenix_firebrd> anyone here familiar in reading S.M.A.R.T data?
[11:05] <pnorman> silus: it's an odd problem to have. using key based authentication isn't too uncommon, but having too many keys isn't too frequent
[11:05] <pnorman> phoenix_firebrd: what's your question
[11:05] <idaix> bonjour
[11:06] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman: i will paste my smart data here, can you tell be what is the status of my harddisk?
[11:06] <pnorman> phoenix_firebrd: use pastebin or something, smart data can be fairly long.
[11:06] <Thorne> How do I fix this long wait for network configuration..  Waiting upto 60 seconds  etc... .
[11:06] <silus> pnorman so. how can this be fixed if you don`t have acces to a system only with the ssh 22 and the system gets you out?
[11:06] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman: ya sure
[11:07] <pnorman> silus: Not sure what you're asking. It's unlikely you have the same problem troydm had.
[11:07] <silus> pnorman i have this problem on 2 servers
[11:07] <Thorne> hmm
[11:07] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman: http://paste.ubuntu.com/788738/
[11:07] <troydm> silus: can you ask your question again
[11:08] <troydm> silus: cause i can't find it in chat history
[11:09] <silus> pnorman so. how can this be fixed if you don`t have acces to a system only with the ssh 22 and the system gets you out?
[11:09] <silus> troydm.. how can this be fixed if you don`t have acces to a system only with the ssh 22 and the system gets you out?
[11:09] <pnorman> silus: What is the this you talk about?
[11:09] <blinky> hello
[11:09] <silus> you can`t insert the password.
[11:09] <troydm> silus: by "get's you out" you mean it just rejects connection using ssh ?
[11:09] <blinky> i got a question for you guys
[11:10] <silus> the system after you inserted the usernames get`s you out.
[11:10] <troydm> silus: ohh, you are trying to use root password or simple user?
[11:10] <troydm> s/root password/root i mean
[11:10] <silus> bouth
[11:10] <pnorman> silus: what's the command you're using to try to connect?
[11:11] <silus> I use putty
[11:11] <Sidewinder1> !ask | blinky
[11:11] <troydm> silus: simple vanilla ubuntu installation without any tinkering of ssh?
[11:11] <silus> on win xp..
[11:11] <silus> dunou man
[11:11] <blinky> sure, thank you sidewinder and ubottu
[11:11] <silus> i don`t really install them
[11:11] <troydm> can you do ssh -v yourssh@yourip
[11:11] <silus> only update them.
[11:11] <troydm> and copy paste the output to pastebin
[11:12] <blinky> my question is
[11:12] <pnorman> silus: exactly what are you putting into the Host Name field in putty?
[11:12] <blinky> is the ssh links (https) traced by the isp?
[11:12] <atvr> in rescue mode can i format or delet partition
[11:12] <troydm> silus: you are using putty? then get it's log and see what the error is?
[11:12] <silus> I have things to do right now. not really for searching the 2 servers of the 1000 i have. se ya next year with this problem.
[11:12] <silus> have a good night.
[11:13] <silus> let the party starting@!! :_)
[11:13] <pnorman> blinky: an ISP could track where you're SSHing to, but that wouldn't enable them to sniff the connection
[11:13] <oCean> blinky: https is ssl, not ssh. And I think the ##security channel would be more appropriate to ask
[11:13] <blinky> pnorman, then how do i block the isp from tracking me?
[11:14] <[transcoders]man> is it true that ubuntu 12.04 is coming to smartphone devices too???
[11:14] <oCean> [transcoders]man: channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion on 12.04
[11:14] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman: what about my harddisk?
[11:14] <pnorman> blinky: not really on topic for here, you'd be better off with a different chan
[11:15] <pnorman> phoenix_firebrd: not seeing anything wrong with the smart info. keep in mind, a drive can fail with no warnings and smart only catches some errors
[11:16] <Sidewinder1> phoenix_firebrd, I took a quick look too, and didn't see anything 'outta-wack'.
[11:16] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman: one small doubt, the column type says prefailure and oldage, can you tell me what does it mean?
[11:17] <phoenix_firebrd> Sidewinder1: what is the column which says the expected value ?
[11:17] <pnorman> it tells you what kind of indicator it is. pre-fail indicators are likely to change when something goes wrong. old_age will change as the drive gets old
[11:18] <pnorman> phoenix_firebrd: generally when a drive starts going, the VALUE of all sorts of attributes decrease to under TRESH
[11:19] <Sidewinder1> phoenix_firebrd, I'm not sure and wouldn't want to tell you the wrong thing. "Power-On" time appears to be a little over a year, correct?
[11:19] <phoenix_firebrd> Sidewinder1: ya
[11:19] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman: so is my drive failing
[11:20] <pnorman> phoenix_firebrd: I don't see any VALUEs under their THRESH
[11:20] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman: can a faulty smps falsify a smart test?
[11:21] <pnorman> smps?
[11:21] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman: ya
[11:21] <munzxttt> merry christmas! :) .... i am using ubuntu 11.04 and tried KDE which i think has corrupted some files as i get strange screens on booting/closing evern after i removed kde .... how can i fix it and is there is away to get back to a clean 11.04?!
[11:21] <pnorman> I'm asking what smps is.
[11:21] <Sidewinder1> phoenix_firebrd, Other than 'Smart-Data' are there any other symptoms that you're experiencing or does it appear to be running fine? Regardless of your answer, Back-Ups are your friend. :-)
[11:21] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman: 2 of the power terminals of the smps wont work
[11:22] <pnorman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/788745/ is an example of a smart status from a drive that exhibited a problem (bad cable)
[11:22] <pnorman> phoenix_firebrd: What is a smps?
[11:22] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman:  switch mode power supply
[11:23] <pnorman> Oh. A bad power supply wouldn't cause smart to be wrong, it would cause errors that smart isn't designed to detect
[11:24] <munzxttt> merry christmas! :) .... i am using ubuntu 11.04 and tried KDE which i think has corrupted some files as i get strange screens on booting/closing evern after i removed kde .... how can i fix it and is there is away to get back to a clean 11.04?!
[11:24] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman: when i use a power socket from smsps which is faulty  with the dvd writer, the drive keeps on seeking and its ok whn i use a good terminal
[11:24] <Sidewinder1> phoenix_firebrd, There's no software, that I'm aware of that'll diagnose a potential PSU problem.
[11:25] <pnorman> phoenix_firebrd: sounds like a bad voltage rail that one is on but the other isn't. smart isn't designed to detect that kind of problem
[11:25] <phoenix_firebrd> Sidewinder1: thats right :)
[11:25] <pnorman> Sidewinder1: lm_sensors can sometimes
[11:25] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman: ya
[11:25] <Unirgy> hi, was anyone able to compile dazukofs successfully? thanks
[11:26] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman: mine was a warranty replace one ,  they gave me a certified repaired one
[11:26] <angela> what should I do if xubunto does not recognice the wireless device of a netbook
[11:27] <Sidewinder1> phoenix_firebrd, The good news is that refurbished/reconditioned PSUs are relatively inexpensive; even if you need a 1000 watt, server PSU.
[11:27] <pnorman> Sidewinder1: owfs could also be used to read PSU voltages
[11:27] <Sidewinder1> owfs?
[11:27] <Sidewinder1> Like DVM?
[11:27] <pnorman> one wire file system, for reading one-wire sensors. you'd have to have the appropriate hardware
[11:27] <Sidewinder1> Digital Volt Meter?
[11:28] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman: in the Raw_Read_Error_Rate higher is better or lower is better?
[11:28] <pnorman> higher is good
[11:28] <Sidewinder1> Well, thanks guys, I just learned two things.. :-)
[11:29] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman: so that means if it reaches less than 6 , then something is wrong
[11:29] <pnorman> phoenix_firebrd: smartctl will then return a non-zero exit status, indicating something is wrong.
[11:30] <phoenix_firebrd> oh
[11:30] <pnorman> phoenix_firebrd: in my server i monitor the smart statuses so I can tell if something starts changing
[11:30] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman: is there a frontend for smartctl?
[11:30] <Sidewinder1> pnorman, Sounds like a mis-nomer, I would've thought that any 'error rate' lower would be better than higher..
[11:30] <pnorman> smartctl is a frontend :)
[11:30] <pnorman> Sidewinder1: higher=good with SMART
[11:31] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman: no i mean a gui front end
[11:31] <pnorman> phoenix_firebrd: Not sure. I don't use a GUI. I graph my smart stuff with munin. Anyways, off to bed
[11:32] <Sidewinder1> pnorman, Nighty- night..
[11:32] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman: tahnk you
[11:32] <phoenix_firebrd> pnorman: thank you
[11:33] <phoenix_firebrd> Sidewinder1: thank you
[11:33] <Sidewinder1> phoenix_firebrd, My pleasure; just wish I could've helped more. :D
[11:34] <phoenix_firebrd> Sidewinder1: you helped me enough
[11:34] <Sidewinder1> Kewl.
[11:35] <Sidewinder1> OT, but I used to own a 1978 Firebird, Formula. ;-)
[11:35] <Sidewinder1> And lived in Phoenix, for a bit..
[11:36] <phoenix_firebrd> Sidewinder1: you mean a pontiac?
[11:36] <Unirgy> is there a real time anti-malware solution for linux to monitor file system? i've tried avira and avg, but they require dazukofs module, which doesn't compile, tried maldetect, but inotify process works only on immediate directory and crashes
[11:37] <phoenix_firebrd> wish you all a happy new year
[11:37] <tapas> hi, i'm using the xmonad window manager and still like to use nautilus to manage files sometimes
[11:37] <tapas> sadly it looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/hxwKe.png
[11:37] <tapas> [left side of the screen]
[11:38] <tapas> i wonder how i can make nautilus use the right icons again..
[11:38] <mysteriousdarren> Unirgy: bitdefender?
[11:38] <tapas> this is a fresh 11.10 install from yesterday
[11:38] <Sidewinder1> Unirgy, I'm not sure but I don't think there's much demand for that sort of thing in *nix. You might be interested to read this, if you haven't already: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812
[11:39] <Unirgy> mysteriousdarren: did you use it?
[11:39] <mysteriousdarren> Unirgy: yes the other one I have tried is ahh....looking for it
[11:40] <Myr> Greetings, I have a question about Wubi and the windows (XP) Boot.ini ... How do I get my wubi install to boot again?
[11:40] <Myr> Couldn't find anything useful with google
[11:41] <Adrian_> Hi guys I have had ubuntu dual booting some years ago and just took a look at the new live distro and thought it looks amazing! Went to install on my brand new rig and I can't install ubuntu to the ssd I bought?
[11:42] <Sidewinder1> Myr, It's just my opinion but WUBI is simply to try ubuntu, in a win environment; if you like ubuntu, install it and dual boot. This link will help w/WUBI and installation: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index
[11:43] <zsol> tapas, there's a gnome howto on the xmonad site
[11:44] <smile4ever> When trying to compile Gnash..
[11:44] <smile4ever> WARNING: NPAPI (mozilla) plugin is enabled, but your compiler
[11:44] <smile4ever>                  does not support symbol visibility. This may cause
[11:44] <Adrian_> Has anybody had trouble installing ubuntu to ssd, there is some talk of issues in google but no definitive you can't?
[11:44] <smile4ever>                  the plugin to malfunction and may result in small
[11:44] <smile4ever>                  children being eaten. You have been warned!
[11:44] <FloodBot1> smile4ever: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:44] <smile4ever> O.O
[11:44] <Okocha> when i want to visit a web-site I have to wait for 20second. I think it's for DNS. anybody there?
[11:44] <Myr> Sidewinder1: Okay... but how is that helping me to get back into ubuntu?
[11:44] <tapas> zsol: yeah, i used to use xmonad as wm in gnome, but this is not a gnome session...
[11:45] <mysteriousdarren> Unirgy: ESET has a linux client too
[11:45] <Unirgy> mysteriousdarren: thanks
[11:45] <smile4ever> Myr: what's the problem? :)
[11:46] <mysteriousdarren> Unirgy: nvm about ESET, use bitdefender it works awesome and the other one was crap
[11:46] <Sidewinder1> Myr, As I sated, that link has some info on WUBI; I can't answer your question as I've never used WUBI (I wouldn't touch WUBI, with your keyboard).. ;-) Sorry I have no definitive answer for you. :-(
[11:47] <Myr> smile4ever: Reinstalled Windows XP after getting my kernel rewritten by a hacker after getting in with a backdoor, Forgot to save the settings of my Boot.ini ... :(
[11:47] <smile4ever> and now you want to fix ubuntu? :)
[11:47] <mysteriousdarren> Unirgy: plus its a free license for home users
[11:47] <Myr> Well, I need the line that links my boot menu to my grub menu
[11:47] <mysteriousdarren> http://www.bitdefender.com/business/antivirus-for-unices.html#Technology
[11:48] <Myr> But I have no idea about windows Boot.ini xD
[11:48] <smile4ever> xD
[11:48] <Unirgy> mysteriousdarren: trying to find the download link, http://www.bitdefender.com/business/antivirus-for-unices.html#Overview - only to purchase
[11:48] <smile4ever> now you are in XP? :)
[11:48] <Myr> Aye :(
[11:48] <Sidewinder1> Myr, Couldn't you simply re-install WUBI?
[11:48] <Myr> Aye, I could
[11:48] <Okocha> #dns
[11:48] <smile4ever> Myr: or install Ubuntu directly :)
[11:48] <smile4ever> With GParted fixed in one hour :)
[11:49] <smile4ever> ^^
[11:49] <mysteriousdarren> Unirgy: look at the little tab on the upper lefthand side
[11:49] <mysteriousdarren> near realted links
[11:49] <Unirgy> mysteriousdarren: oh got it
[11:49] <Myr> Could do ubuntu directly, but it always goes wrong with dualboot installing
[11:49] <smile4ever> Myr: with me it doesn't :)
[11:50] <Adrian_> Myr: I have dual booted before always found very straightforard.
[11:50] <manners> hey guys was wondering if someone
[11:50] <manners> could help
[11:50] <smile4ever> yeah, we'll try if you explain your problem :)
[11:50] <mysteriousdarren> manners: what is the problem?
[11:50] <Sidewinder1> Myr, The beauty of dual-boot is that you can do all of your 'Net' stuff in ubuntu and be almost totally secure; save the win os for games, Auto-Cad, etc..
[11:50] <auronandace> manners: that would depend on the problem
[11:50] <Adrian_> smile4ever: have you ever tried dual booting win7 and ubuntu to ssd
[11:50] <manners> iv got an old netbook with ubuntu on and its basically just gonna be a media server using ushare and a nas controller for the usb hdd
[11:51] <Sidewinder1> Myr, What error do you get when trying to install dual boot?
[11:51] <smile4ever> Adrian_: I'm dualbooting Windows 7 and Lubuntu (on a hard disk drive)
[11:51] <manners> iv got the hdd showing up on it but when using samba i can see the share but cannot access it
[11:51] <manners> on my windows 7 machine i mean
[11:52] <smile4ever> manners: samba is crap :|
[11:52] <manners> now i have changed the settings in windows 7 as i used to have this drive on a openwrt box
[11:52] <smile4ever> manners: use dropbox :)
[11:52] <manners> lol what can i use
[11:52] <manners> ahh kk
[11:52] <Myr> Well, my grub dies... It boots directly to the grub prompt
[11:52] <manners> can it handle ntfs file systems
[11:52] <Adrian_> smile4ever: I have done xp and ubuntu some time back but love the 11.10 look, just rebuilt a beutiful rig on a shoestring and was only planning on using the ssd as nice and quiet
[11:52] <smile4ever> yes ;) dropbox can
[11:52] <Sidewinder1> Myr, Live CD or USB stick?
[11:52] <Myr> Live CD
[11:53] <manners> kk will install that now
[11:53] <manners> also whilst on the subject
[11:53] <Adrian_> smile4ever: gparted or any ubuntu I have tried can't see the ssd?
[11:53] <manners> i tried changing the permissions on the drive to give everyone access to read and write but it keeps changing them back again
[11:53] <Sidewinder1> Myr, OK, did you Md5sum the ISO image prior to burning, at the slowest speed to the CD?
[11:53] <Unirgy> mysteriousdarren: looks like the free download is only scanner, without real-time protection
[11:54] <Myr> Yes
[11:54] <smile4ever> Adrian_: hmm, problem :(
[11:54] <mysteriousdarren> Unirgy: my apologies
[11:54] <Adrian_> big tried running a live session in win 7 but is no good live iso usb can see it but not size format anything?
[11:55] <Sidewinder1> Myr, What version of ubuntu?
[11:55] <Myr> 10.10
[11:55] <Unirgy> :( thanks
[11:55] <d4nt3> can somebody help me....how to recover file in formatted ntfs external HD?
[11:55] <Myr> Or atleast 10.X
[11:55] <Guest4399> hi
[11:55] <Guest4399> want some help on ubuntu
[11:55] <d4nt3> can somebody help me....how to recover file in formatted ntfs external HD?
[11:56] <Adrian_> d4nt3: can try recover my files it on torrent I have always had some results, just install and select drive and run.
[11:56] <auronandace> d4nt3: you want to recover a file that was on the external hd before it was formatted as ntfs?
[11:56] <manners> doo dropbox
[11:56] <smile4ever> d4nt3: go to a pc shop and let help you :)
[11:56] <smile4ever> i don't know any tools for linux
[11:56] <manners> do i really need dropbox seems like a comlex way of doing things
[11:56] <Sidewinder1> Myr, Dang! I'm using 10.04 with Grub Legacy, not Grub2.. Not really sure what the problem might be. I'd read through the link that I gave you and see if anything 'pops-out' at you..
[11:56] <MonkeyDust> d4nt3  you accidentally deleted files? if yes, use scalpel to recover the files
[11:57] <Adrian_> smile4ever, d4nt3: pc repair shop is much easier!
[11:57] <smile4ever> manners: you could also install a vpn :)
[11:57] <Guest4399> exit
[11:57] <d4nt3> but how to recover .iso file?
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> d4nt3  you deledet it?
[11:57] <atvr> does the installation from a usb stick is defferent from a cd
[11:57] <Adrian_> has anybody succesfully installed any linux distro to a ssd?
[11:57] <Sidewinder1> d4nt3, Have you looked into "Testdisk?"
[11:57] <d4nt3> i have already use testdisk and photorec
[11:58] <manners> i just want to share the files on the home network though
[11:58] <auronandace> Adrian_: plenty of people have installed ubuntu to ssd
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> d4nt3  try scalpel
[11:58] <atvr> does the installation from a usb stick is defferent from a cd
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> !info scalpel| d4nt3
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> hm
[11:59] <auronandace> Adrian_: perhaps somebody has the same model ssd as you, try searching the ubuntu forums
[11:59] <d4nt3> foremost can recover .iso file?
[11:59] <smile4ever> manners: i really hate samba because it fails very much :S
[11:59] <Adrian_> auronandace: help me I have just built a new tower on a budget treated myself to an ssd, so quiet and quick, win 7 is great, ubuntu can't see the ssd details ie size format?
[11:59] <d4nt3> i format the HD in windows...then can i get back all the file including .iso file?
[11:59] <smile4ever> Every time i tried to use it, it didn't work
[12:00] <manners> the strange thing is if i share the root
[12:00] <oCean> smile4ever: don't blame smb then
[12:00] <d4nt3> i use photorec but photorec recover file that i don't own
[12:00] <auronandace> Adrian_: how new is the ssd, what model is it?
[12:00] <manners> i can get into everything on there except the usb hdd
[12:00] <Sidewinder1> d4nt3, If both of those were totally unsuccessful it may be gone.. :-(
[12:00] <manners> its as if the permissions are whats stopping me
[12:00] <Adrian_> auronandace: corsair force 90, christmas present but not a new release I don't think!
[12:01] <auronandace> Adrian_: try searching the ubuntu forums for that model
[12:01] <d4nt3> if its gone...then im going to kill myself...for using my thumbdrive as swap
[12:01] <Ben64> you can make publicly writable directories with samba
[12:01] <auronandace> Adrian_: sorry i can't help more but i have never used ssds
[12:01] <d4nt3> thats affect my HD...
[12:01] <Adrian_> auronandace: will have a look now.
[12:02] <manners> yes if the permissions would change
[12:02] <manners> i have samba running and its working doing what it should do anyways
[12:02] <Sidewinder1> d4nt3, Not to sound totally goofy, but I feel your pain; that's why I'm a back-up, nut.
[12:02] <wafer> wow ;)
[12:02] <wafer> hi ;)
[12:02] <Sidewinder1> wafer, Hey!
[12:02] <manners> other than the fact the usb hdd cannot be accessed
[12:03] <manners> but as i said im unable to change the permissions on that drive
[12:03] <d4nt3> im thinking of getting my linux mint.iso file...but now its gone...and it take hours to download it...again
[12:03] <wafer> i'm new user ubuntu ;P nice OS :D
[12:03] <wafer> where is firefox???
[12:04] <iceroot> wafer: installed by default
[12:04] <Gentoo64> wafer, should be on the bar on the left
[12:04] <manners> if i right click the actual drive and go to permissions it says the permissions of elements could not be determined
[12:04] <iceroot> wafer: if you are not using lubuntu firefox is installed by default
[12:04] <wafer> ah, is ;)
[12:04] <wafer> i have conntact with world :D
[12:05] <iceroot> wafer: almost everything you need should be installed by default (libreoffice and flash are not installed by default)
[12:05] <Sidewinder1> manners, Open it with a file mgr. click on a dir or file and click 'properties'; that should give you the permissions, at least for that dir/file on the ext.
[12:05] <wafer> btw. sorry  with my language ;)
[12:05] <manners> is there something i have to do to take ownership of this drive
[12:05] <wafer> i from poland ;p
[12:05] <iceroot> wafer: there are also country-specific channels
[12:05] <iceroot> !pl | wafer
[12:06] <wafer> XChat i have in polish version; )
[12:06] <wafer> ok, thanks
[12:06] <Sidewinder1> manners, sudo chown -R usernamr:username /media/disk-name..
[12:07] <maxagaz> hi
[12:07] <Sidewinder1> username, even. :-(
[12:07] <idaix> bonjour
[12:07] <Sidewinder1> !fre
[12:07] <maxagaz> when doing grub-update, I get this error : /etc/default/grub: 11: i8042.nopnp: not found
[12:07] <Sidewinder1> !fr
[12:07] <irl> jk
[12:07] <maxagaz> how to repair this problem ?
[12:08] <irl> happy christmas
[12:08] <Gentoo64> irl, christmas is over :)
[12:09] <auronandace> !cookie | Gentoo64
[12:09] <Gentoo64> aw :)
[12:10] <Gentoo64> i hope its triple choc
[12:10] <Sidewinder1> Christmas Spirit should be present all year. OT, Side hits himself..
[12:10] <Sidewinder1> !botsnack
[12:10] <Gamoder> Hi everyone, what is the minimum connection speed where it does not make sense to compress ssh -X any longer?
[12:10] <manners> hmm that didnt work
[12:10] <Gentoo64> maxagaz, what problem are you having? is it with a touchpad or ps2 key/mouse?
[12:11] <iceroot> Gamoder: ssh -X is always a bad idea and very slow
[12:11] <Sidewinder1> manners, It always worked on my 5 external eSATA/USB drives.
[12:11] <Gamoder> ok, so is there an alternative for getting single applications displayed over a network?
[12:11] <iceroot> Gamoder: and what does the connection-speed have to do with compression?
[12:11] <lalagirl> Hi everyone. I'm installing Ubunti
[12:11] <manners> lol well it didnt say it failed
[12:12] <manners> just if i goto /media
[12:12] <iceroot> Gamoder: nx is a good alternative but its a complete session and not only one application
[12:12] <Gamoder> Well - the slower the connection, the more useful should compression be because de/compressing takes time but transferring data takes time as well
[12:12] <Gamoder> yeah, I only want one or two applications
[12:12] <manners> right click elements then look at permissions there still as defaults and if i change any and press close they dont actually change
[12:12] <lalagirl> How long does it take to install Ubuntu?
[12:12] <iceroot> Gamoder: the level of compression has more to do with cpu speed then connection-speed
[12:12] <coagula> if im running a command line build, but want to use a web browser with flash (gui), would setting up a chroot jail and building an instance of X maintain the integrity of my system?
[12:12] <iceroot> lalagirl: depening on the hardware 15-60 minutes
[12:13] <Sidewinder1> manners, Perhaps sudo chown -R username:username /media/what-ever the mount-point and or UUID?
[12:13] <almoxarife> maxagaz: could you pastebin your /etc/default/grub
[12:14] <Entvex> hello how do i add a launchpad PPA key to my apt keyring?
[12:14] <lalagirl> While its installing Ubuntu, it says "Retrieving file 59 of 69 (30s remaining)" why?
[12:14] <Gamoder> iceroot: Well - but if I got a slow connection then, if I transfer more data (no compression) it will take more time than if I transfer less data (with compression) - on the other hand, if I got a slow cpu it will take more time if there is more to do (compression) than if there is less to do (no compression)
[12:14] <Gentoo64> lalagirl, its downloading stuff
[12:15] <Gamoder> I got a 2,3 Ghz i5 processor and about 700 kb/s speed
[12:15] <lalagirl> Gentoo64 what is it downloading?
[12:15] <Gentoo64> lalagirl, idk, maybe language packs
[12:15] <manners> odd thing is i can read and write files on the ubuntu machine
[12:15] <Gentoo64> did you choose to download updates while installling?
[12:15] <manners> to the  external hdd
[12:15] <lalagirl> Gentoo64 Do I need them? I will only run in English?
[12:16] <Gentoo64> lalagirl, probably not, i dont even know if it is language packs
[12:16] <Sidewinder1> manners, To determine the UUID of the drives, including the external, try: ls -l dev/disk/by-uuid
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> lalagirl  maybe there's a skip button, if not, you can delete them after installation
[12:16] <lalagirl> Gentoo64 it says "Downloading language packs (5:03 remaining)..."
[12:16] <Gentoo64> lalagirl, ok well thats it then :)
[12:16] <lalagirl> MonkeyDust I pressed the skip button
[12:17] <Entvex> ahh found it
[12:17] <iceroot> Gamoder: and what does higher compression has to do with lower connection speed?
[12:17] <iceroot> Gamoder: i dont get what you want
[12:17] <lalagirl> Okay it is done installing Ubuntu… that took a long time
[12:17] <Entvex> it was apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys <key id>
[12:17] <Gentoo64> lalagirl, id just leave it i doubt they take much space
[12:17] <manners> Sidewinder1 if i can access it via ubuntu and edit files should i need to change permissions, also if with samba i share the route i can access it from my windows 7 machine but if i navigate to the usb hdd it wont let me have access to the directory
[12:17] <Gamoder> I think that higher compression = less data = less time to transfer the data
[12:17] <Entvex> thanks man pages :D
[12:17] <manners> sorry root
[12:17] <lalagirl> it took 6 minutes to install Ubuntu?
[12:18] <Sidewinder1> manners, And the external can't be written to because it's owned by 'root', correct?
[12:18] <Gentoo64> lalagirl, you said a long time?
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> lalagirl  that's possible, modifications may take longer
[12:18] <Gamoder> and if I got less connection speed this "less time" matters more than the "more time" due to the CPU-time used for compression
[12:18] <illic1t> in webmin which shell option do u choose to give a user full access to my server?
[12:18] <jolson_> I wish to report a bug, but ubuntu-bug wants me to name the package at fault and I have no idea. It's about fonts not being drawn correctly and it affects many applications at once.
[12:18] <manners> well by the user max
[12:18] <atvr> lalagirl: the way you speak i think you have never installed windows XD you would think that ubuntu install fast as hell ;p
[12:18] <illic1t> bin/bash?
[12:18] <iceroot> illic1t: dont use webmin
[12:18] <lalagirl> atvr I have a mac
[12:18] <iceroot> !webmin | illic1t
[12:18] <manners> which is my son used to be his netbook
[12:18] <Sidewinder1> !webmin | illic1t
[12:18] <illic1t> sorry
[12:19] <lalagirl> atvr I bought Windows 7 and will install it later… first let me install Ubuntu
[12:19] <iceroot> lalagirl: its better to install windows first
[12:19] <MonkeyDust> lalagirl  if you install windows after ubuntu, you'll have to repair grub
[12:19] <iceroot> lalagirl: because windows will kill grub and you have to reinstall grub
[12:20] <lalagirl> atvr by the way, how long does Windows take to install?
[12:20] <iceroot> lalagirl: ##windows
[12:20] <atvr> lalagirl: this is off-topic but you cant instal windows on a mac machine
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> lalagirl  at least 1 hour
[12:20] <iceroot> atvr: of course you can
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> ok
[12:20] <ShadowE9899> it takes me about 15 mins here with windows 7
[12:20] <Gentoo64> all depends on the pc
[12:20] <iceroot> atvr: if it is not ppc
[12:20] <Gentoo64> some can take 4-5 mins some 2 hours
[12:20] <lalagirl> okay
[12:21] <lalagirl> it says "If possible, eject the CD-ROM from inside the guest before disconnecting.
[12:21] <lalagirl> Disconnect anyway and override the lock?" What should I do?
[12:21] <atvr> lalagirl: depends on your hardware performance, it may take 10min or 1hour
[12:21] <soee> how can i remove (terminal) all files with specific extension ?
[12:21] <Gentoo64> lalagirl, just reboot
[12:21] <iceroot> soee: rm *.txt
[12:21] <Gentoo64> lalagirl, or choose device/cdrom then eject from vboc
[12:21] <Gentoo64> x
[12:21] <Gentoo64> or remove device / whatever
[12:21] <lalagirl> Gentoo64 whats vboc?
[12:21] <Gentoo64> vbox (if thats what youre using)
[12:22] <iceroot> !vbox | lalagirl
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> soee  with find and rm {}
[12:22] <Gamoder> ok, I cannot watch videos - but otherwise, speed seems to be quite ok
[12:22] <soee> iceroot, Monarquista thank you
[12:22] <iceroot> Gamoder: what videos?
[12:22] <lalagirl> Gentoo64 oh I bought VMware Fusion 4, is that okay to run Ubuntu?
[12:22] <iceroot> Gamoder: flash? or others?
[12:22] <Gentoo64> lalagirl, yeah
[12:22] <Gamoder> neither nor - ssh seems to be too slow for that
[12:23] <iceroot> Gamoder: watching videos over ssh -X.....
[12:23] <Gentoo64> lalagirl, before you buy stuff, there are free alternatives :) vbox is fine
[12:23] <iceroot> Gamoder: as i already said, ssh -X is bad and very slow
[12:23] <Ben64> vmware has a free version too
[12:23] <Gentoo64>  Ben64 yeah but only player afaik
[12:23] <Gamoder> well - maybe, but I don't want a complete session - and it is sufficent for lowriter, firefox etc.
[12:23] <Ben64> yeah, and?
[12:24] <Ben64> it works perfectly
[12:24] <Gentoo64> Ben64, which means youd need existing vm
[12:24] <iceroot> Gamoder: you can mount the filesystem with sshfs
[12:24] <Ben64> nope, you can make them
[12:24] <ShadowE9899> I agree vbox works great here. I do all my dev in it to keep my work isolated.
[12:24] <iceroot> Gamoder: then it should be possible to watch videos over that
[12:24] <Gentoo64> Ben64, you might as well use full on vbox
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> so far, i havent been able to install vmware in ubuntu, i now use vbox
[12:24] <Ben64> vbox isn't as full featured
[12:24] <Gamoder> ah, nice, could try out that too :-)
[12:24] <lalagirl> wait I am on mac so i bought vmware fusion 4 so i can run ubuntu on mac
[12:24] <Gentoo64> Ben64, most people prefer it for normal use
[12:25] <ShadowE9899> Ben64: It has enough features for a home user. Now a datacenter is a different story
[12:25] <lalagirl> it seems like ubuntu is compatible with vmware fusion 4
[12:25] <iceroot> lalagirl: you bought expensiv mac-hardware to use windows and linux? isnt the only reason to buy mac hardware to run mac osx?
[12:25] <Ben64> vmware is free and better : /
[12:25] <Gentoo64> Ben64, argue all you like lol
[12:25] <iceroot> Ben64: vmware is not "free" (as in free speech)
[12:25] <Gamoder> Thanks, iceroot - nautilus has ssh-support. Now I don't need samba any longer
[12:25] <Gentoo64> vbox is also faster
[12:25] <maxagaz> almoxarife: I have just tried the /etc/default/grub which is here http://www.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich-18941526-ubuntu-erreur-de-sortie-d-etat-127
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  OT: link to vmware installer pls?
[12:26] <lalagirl> iceroot some programs are not on mac for some dumb reason so i have to use ubuntu and windows alongside mac
[12:26] <iceroot> lalagirl: ok
[12:26] <Ben64> MonkeyDust: you can't google? :(
[12:26] <lalagirl> iceroot i'm getting tired spending so much money on software so i think ubuntu will help because its free
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  fun-spoiler :p
[12:26] <maxagaz> almoxarife: it's now upgrading, but I get similar errors...
[12:27] <Ben64> well it'll take a bit to get you a link, maxing out my connection atm
[12:27] <iceroot> lalagirl: its free (as in free beer) and (very important) its free as in free speech
[12:27] <iceroot> !free | lalagirl
[12:27] <lalagirl> iceroot beer isn't free
[12:28] <ShadowE9899> If it wasn't for open source I probably wouldn't know how to program =/
[12:28] <iceroot> lalagirl: free beer is of course free :)
[12:28] <Seveas> free as in freezing
[12:28] <Ben64> MonkeyDust: www.vmware.com/go/get-player
[12:28] <Ben64> you need to register
[12:28] <Gentoo64> lalagirl, i thought id seen you in this channel for a long time, how come all the questions? :s
[12:28] <almoxarife> maxagaz: I can't read french, ><>......
[12:28] <iceroot> lalagirl: hm maybe not if apple would sell beer, even it is free beer because you need an adapter matching your mouth which will cost 29,95€
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  tnx
[12:29] <Seveas> iceroot, it'll be iBeer, taste like crap, but it'll be shiny
[12:29] <maxagaz> almoxarife: well, the file is not in french
[12:29] <Seveas> and people will love it for the shine
[12:29] <iceroot> Seveas: and pink
[12:29] <Seveas> no, white
[12:29] <Ben64> white beer :S
[12:29] <iceroot> Seveas: with round corners
[12:29] <ShadowE9899> lol
[12:30] <atvr> as you talk about crap lol is it possible to put linux on iphone
[12:30] <lalagirl> Gentoo64 i'm lalagirl's friend
[12:30] <Gentoo64> lalagirl, ah ok
[12:30] <iceroot> atvr: yes
[12:30] <Seveas> atvr, google for rockbox.
[12:30] <ShadowE9899> really?
[12:30] <oCean> let's move back on topic please
[12:30] <lalagirl> Gentoo64 she told me to use this chat thing incase if i need help installing ubuntu
[12:30] <iceroot> atvr: but not GNU/Linux
[12:30] <iceroot> oCean: we are not offtopic when we are speaking about freedom
[12:31] <atvr> iceroot: what is gnu linux
[12:31] <Seveas> iceroot, well, this channel is really about support
[12:31] <rokia> hi everybody, i have a question about java and linux. how can i know which charset is used when i call a write method on OutputStreamWriter . because i think write use a jvm 's charset and jvm depends on the operating system
[12:31] <oCean> atvr: please note that this channel is not for general linux support, just ubuntu
[12:31] <iceroot> atvr: have a look at gnu.org what GNU/Linux is, also debian.org
[12:32] <Seveas> atvr, http://docs.oracle.com/javase/1.4.2/docs/api/java/io/OutputStreamWriter.html
[12:32] <ShadowE9899> you guys wasn't joking about ubuntu on the iphone... does it work well with other iOS devices?
[12:32] <Seveas> OutputStreamWriters have a getEncoding method
[12:32] <lalagirl> okay now i installed ubuntu… how can i update it?
[12:32] <iceroot> atvr: the short story is Ubuntu is a GNU/Linux system, Android is a Linux system
[12:32] <iceroot> lalagirl: update like sec-updates or update like release-update?
[12:33] <ShadowE9899> or am i misreading these results from google lmao
[12:33] <lalagirl> iceroot all updates
[12:33] <iceroot> lalagirl: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:33] <hasufell> help!! i cant see this video in my ubuntu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc
[12:33] <iceroot> lalagirl: also the software-center should offer an option about available updates
[12:33] <lalagirl> iceroot sudo what?
[12:33] <Seveas> lalagirl, open the update manager and click 'check' and 'install updates'
[12:33] <lalagirl> iceroot what's sudo
[12:33] <Seveas> no need for termminal commands :)
[12:33] <iceroot> !sudo | lalagirl
[12:33] <Ben64> lalagirl: do what Seveas said
[12:33] <Sidewinder1> lalagirl, What version of ubuntu did you install?
[12:34] <Ben64> its way easier
[12:34] <lalagirl> iceroot i feel dumb… sorry if i'm asking dumb questions, i'm new to this!
[12:34] <Seveas> lalagirl, no need to feel dumb :)
[12:34] <lalagirl> Sidewinder1 it Ubuntu 11.10
[12:34] <iceroot> lalagirl: there are no dump questions, its great you are using ubuntu and you are welcome to this channel to ask all your ubuntu releated questions
[12:35] <Ben64> nobody instantly knew how to work linux their first time
[12:35] <manners> ok got that fixed now
[12:35] <manners> next issue
[12:35] <manners> is there a gui for ushare in ubuntu
[12:36] <owenll1> !flash | hasufell
[12:36] <lalagirl> are "pre-released updates (oneiric-proposed)" safe to install??
[12:36] <iceroot> lalagirl: no
[12:36] <iceroot> lalagirl: dont use them
[12:36] <hasufell> can i watch porn then too?!
[12:36] <ShadowE9899> lol
[12:36] <hasufell> i cant see porn
[12:36] <oCean> hasufell: wrong channel for that
[12:36] <Gentoo64> hasufell, stop troling please
[12:36] <n3rV3> :)
[12:36] <hasufell> PLEASE
[12:36] <Sidewinder1> lalagirl, Then you can't do a dist-upgrade; at least not yet..
[12:36] <oCean> hasufell: this channel is for ubuntu tech support only, stop the offtopic talk
[12:36] <hasufell> i need FAP FAP FAP
[12:36] <Seveas> hasufell, Ubuntu can play almost all videos. just some DRM-encumbered ones don't play.
[12:37] <Gentoo64> i think someones been on the shandies
[12:37] <Sidewinder1> lalagirl, 12.04's not due to be released for a few months.
[12:37] <darkowlzz> Can I use Oracle in Ubuntu?
[12:37] <Seveas> darkowlzz, yes you can.
[12:37] <Romance> pffft, i can't open terminal suddenly! what happened
[12:37] <Romance> dang
[12:37] <iceroot> lalagirl: proposed updates are updates which are not tested or tested at the moment so they can break things
[12:37] <oCean> darkowlzz:  however oracle did not certify ubuntu/debian
[12:37] <Seveas> Romance, it's rebelling!
[12:37] <n3rV3> darkowlzz, yes you can
[12:37] <darkowlzz> Seveas, which package to download
[12:37] <lalagirl> Sidewinder1 so how do i get Ubuntu 12.04 beta?
[12:37] <iceroot> darkowlzz: yes
[12:37] <Ben64> lalagirl: you don't want it
[12:38] <iceroot> darkowlzz: ask oracle what you should use
[12:38] <oCean> lalagirl: Precise/12.04 is not yet released (still alpha). Please /join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion
[12:38] <Seveas> darkowlzz, you'll need to contact oracle sales and pay them a lot of money :)
[12:38] <Ben64> I put 12.04 on my laptop and I regret it
[12:38] <lalagirl> Ben64 i don't want anything, but my friend wants the latest ubuntu stuff
[12:38] <Ben64> it's unstable
[12:38] <Gentoo64> lalagirl, if you just managed to install ubuntu, why do you want the beta already
[12:38] <Ben64> nobody wants that yet
[12:38] <darkowlzz> Seveas, no free way
[12:38] <iceroot> lalagirl: please dont use 12.04, use 11.10 if you want the latest stable release
[12:38] <Seveas> Ben64, 11.10 was less stable for me than 12.04 alpha though. unity kept crashing in 11.10
[12:38] <lalagirl> Gentoo64 it's not me, its my friend… i don't know anything...
[12:38] <iceroot> darkowlzz: oracle is not free
[12:38] <Sidewinder1> lalagirl, What Ben64 said.
[12:39] <Ben64> 10.04 is solid as a rock
[12:39] <Gentoo64> lalagirl, i would use 12.04 in a vm
[12:39] <Gentoo64> but not proper pc
[12:39] <Seveas> darkowlzz, dunno, oracle is not really supported by the community but by oracle. So I'd ask them
[12:39] <Gentoo64> unless you wana test it, not use it properly
[12:39] <cypher-neo> Seveas, I had the same problem with 11.10 Unity. I ended up installing GNOME Shell just because it kept crashing.
[12:39] <cypher-neo> Seveas, I didn't upgrade to 12.04 though. lol
[12:39] <iceroot> Seveas: darkowlzz imo ubuntu is not a supported plattform from oracle
[12:39] <Seveas> cypher-neo, I went for 12.04 instead :)
[12:39] <Seveas> iceroot, hmm, that may be true.
[12:40] <cypher-neo> Seveas, My first issue with 12.04 was that the Alpha image wouldn't fit on a CD. lol
[12:40] <Ben64> I don't like any of the desktop choices now :(
[12:40] <iceroot> darkowlzz: but why you need oracle? mostly its an overkill for common tasks
[12:40] <cypher-neo> Seveas, It was 20Mb too big
[12:40] <Gentoo64> cypher-neo, afaik its supposed to be liek that now
[12:40] <darkowlzz> iceroot, any emulator for Oracle
[12:40] <Gentoo64> you need a dvd even for the cd
[12:40] <Seveas> cypher-neo, heh, I just upgraded :)
[12:40] <iceroot> darkowlzz: ask oracle we dont support that here
[12:41] <cypher-neo> Gentoo64, Well, i don
[12:41] <Seveas> and I install from usb anyway these days.
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> yes
[12:41] <lalagirl> it says it has 301 updates to install… holy cow pancakes batman mobile how long will that take? is it necessary?
[12:41] <n3rV3> Gentoo64, or use unetbootin and make pen drive bootable
[12:41] <Gentoo64> n3rV3, yeah ofc
[12:41] <Seveas> lalagirl, not too long. Most updates are small
[12:41] <Gentoo64> but in terms of actual discs :)
[12:41] <iceroot> lalagirl: it is necessary for the latest security updates and bug-fixes
[12:41] <cypher-neo> Gentoo64, Well, i don't mind as long as they put enough packages into 12.04 to FILL UP a DVD. I don't want to waste a DVD on an image that is just slightly larger than a CD.
[12:41] <n3rV3> yes u r right
[12:41] <lalagirl> i'm guessing ubuntu has a lot of bugs?
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> lalagirl  that's what i said, modifications take longer
[12:42] <cypher-neo> Gentoo64, Though i suppose I could just put it on a flash drive.
[12:42] <Gentoo64> cypher-neo, they should still have cd and dvd versions, "cd" is just more minimal
[12:42] <cypher-neo> lalagirl, Depends on which version you are using
[12:42] <iceroot> lalagirl: not more then other systems
[12:42] <manners> hey guys whats the best upnp server to use in ubuntu
[12:42] <Ben64> lalagirl: there are a lot of updates, not all are bugfixes
[12:42] <Seveas> lalagirl, software is made of bugs. Be it windows, mac or ubuntu. It's bugs all the way down :)
[12:42] <darkowlzz> has anyone tried running Oracle using Wine?
[12:42] <iceroot> manners: ushare - lightweight UPnP A/V Media Server
[12:42] <Seveas> manners, I use mediatomb for my dlna needs
[12:42] <Ben64> i used mediatomb as well
[12:42] <haylo> if they fill up a dvd then it will be a really heavy iso
[12:42] <oCean> darkowlzz: that would be even more silly. Please use #oracle channel for further support
[12:43] <cypher-neo> Gentoo64, That's what I figure too. The CD version just needs a little more time to be culled, and become CD-compatiable.
[12:43] <iceroot> darkowlzz: again, why you need oracle?
[12:43] <Gentoo64> cypher-neo, it used to be, they must have changed it
[12:43] <manners> is there a gui for ushare in ubunti like in luci
[12:43] <lalagirl> okay i decided to install all 301 updates… hopefully Ubuntu doesn't crash like last time
[12:43] <cypher-neo> haylo, They have DVD versions which do fill up a DVD. Mostly just language packs though... for the Ubuntu world traveler.
[12:43] <manners> its for xbox360 so dlna isnt an issue
[12:43] <lalagirl> i don't even know why i'm helping her install Ubuntu in the first place….
[12:44] <iceroot> manners: maybe have a look at "xbmc"
[12:44] <manners> isnt that a complete os
[12:44] <iceroot> manners: no
[12:44] <iceroot> manners: its just a media-solution for ubuntu
[12:44] <manners> hmm ok ill have a look around
[12:44] <iceroot> manners: a normal program
[12:44] <haylo> ah yeah, well i like it that ubuntu has stayed under 1gig mostly
[12:44] <stephenh> what are we talking about?
[12:44] <stephenh> i saw dlna, looks interesting
[12:45] <stephenh> :)
[12:45] <darkowlzz> iceroot, it's part of my college syllabus :(
[12:45] <Seveas> stephenh, about how short this year is
[12:45]  * stephenh is looking for media server that does transcoding too...
[12:45] <Seveas> stephenh, mediatomb
[12:45] <darkowlzz> what is better, mysql or Oracle?
[12:45] <stephenh> found mediatomb, but haven't installed it yet
[12:45] <baaaac> happy new year...
[12:45] <Seveas> !better | darkowlzz
[12:45] <iceroot> darkowlzz: you cant compare mysql and oracle
[12:45] <stephenh> Seveas: cool.. also a bit null and void atm as i bought an apple tv and put xbmc on it
[12:46] <atvr> i have installed ubuntu 11.10 alternative with a cd on my laptop, now im trying to boot into the installation but my screen just dosnt work when ubuntu boot, so i would probably need to put the command nomodeset but how can i put it to be able to boot my ubuntu
[12:46] <iceroot> darkowlzz: but if you just need a sql database use mysql or postgresql
[12:46] <haylo> whats the risk of running without doing the updates say 11.04 or 10.04 or 12.04 maybe after it is revised?
[12:46] <stephenh> but was still curious what i could use to transcode to other dlna devices
[12:46] <darkowlzz> iceroot, Seveas , thanks :D
[12:46] <iceroot> haylo: no security updates
[12:46] <Seveas> haylo, you'll be vulmerable to security bugs
[12:46] <iceroot> darkowlzz: sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[12:46] <atvr> i have installed ubuntu 11.10 alternative with a cd on my laptop, now im trying to boot into the installation but my screen just dosnt work when ubuntu boot, so i would probably need to put the command nomodeset but how can i put it to be able to boot my ubuntu
[12:46] <haylo> i have done install this way- ah security mostly then i see
[12:46] <stephenh> atvr: just keep repeating yourself, sure to get an answer....
[12:47] <darkowlzz> iceroot, thanks, but I know mysql very well :D
[12:47] <iceroot> !nox | atvr
[12:47] <iceroot> atvr: thats the method how to put kernel parameters
[12:47] <iceroot> !nomodeset
[12:47] <iceroot> atvr: see above
[12:48] <atvr> iceroot: i have already seen that, in wich form do i have to put nomodeset the command that i have here is looking like that linux..... quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[12:48] <lalagirl> hiiiiii I'm back sorry for the inconvenience
[12:49] <iceroot> atvr: the text about "nox" is showing you how
[12:49] <shadaloo> you are not in the kitchen?
[12:49]  * shadaloo looks confused
[12:49] <iceroot> atvr: also the forum link will show it
[12:49] <iceroot> shadaloo: stop that!!
[12:49] <lalagirl> shadaloo who?
[12:50] <shadaloo> lalagirl: just playing :p
[12:50] <devid19> devid19 saluta tutti
[12:50] <Seveas> shadaloo, I suggest you play nicely. Or I'll send *you* to the kitchen. To cook you in the oven.
[12:50] <Seveas> hello devid19
[12:51] <shadaloo> Seveas: watch it nazi
[12:51] <cypher-neo> lol
[12:51] <bullgard4> I have attached an electronic device to my LAN. I can access it through its Web interface. How can I access it through Nautilus? I know the IP address of the electronic device. '~$ mount' does not list this electronic device.
[12:51] <loicdu81> Bonjour
[12:51] <Seveas> bullgard4, try this in nautilus: smb://ip.addresss.here
[12:52] <Seveas> hello loicdu81
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> bullgard4  can you ping the device, if yes, try ssh
[12:52] <Gentoo64> loicdu81, #ubuntu-fr is for french
[12:52] <loicdu81> yes
[12:53] <wildc4rd> I am about to install Debian on my main PC, but want to keep this old Ubuntu install, as there is so much stuff on here, can I just plug this HDD into an older hardware setup?
[12:53] <sanku> i find that Ubuntu desktop 11.10 install on my Samsung Satellite bringing up the wireless icon top left ( with or without turning on a red light that the machine has ) -- but  debian 6.0.3 server and ubuntu 11.03 server are unable to show wireless.  How to tweak files to enable ?
[12:53] <Seveas> wildc4rd, yeah, that usually works
[12:53] <Gentoo64> wildc4rd, should be able to
[12:53] <Gentoo64> wildc4rd, id look out for  gpu drivers though
[12:54] <wildc4rd> ideal, cheers (yes, it will have the same brand of GPU)
[12:54] <atvr> iceroot: i just dont found how to make it work, i am new to linux and i would really apreciat if you would help resolving this issue
[12:56] <cypher-neo> sanku, You know i had the same problem on my Satellite Pro. There is a method which I refer to as "kickstarting the modem" which seemed to work 100% of the time for me.
[12:56] <bullgard4> Seveas: '~$ ping 192.168.178.33; 7 packets transmitted, 7 received, 0% packet loss, time 5998ms.' --  But why do I obtain '~$ smb://192.168.178.33; bash: smb://192.168.178.33: No such file or directory'?
[12:56] <sanku> So i have this desktop Ubuntu 11.10 installed on the Samsung Satellite, and connecting to the Internet.  Is there a way to upgrade to server install ( from Ubuntu, Debian or other sites, ) ?
[12:57] <Seveas> bullgard4, I said in nautilus, not in bash :)
[12:57] <Seveas> sanku, server install is not an "upgrade", it's the same but without gui
[12:57] <sanku> cyher-neo: " kickstarting the mode " turns on wireless ?
[12:57] <n3rV3> bullgard4, not on the bash prompt you have to type it in the Nautilus window. One which lists all your folders and files
[12:57] <cypher-neo> sanku, You'll need to have an ethernet cable and have the computer connected to the router via a hardline for this to work. Turn the modem on (red light on) then enable the proprietary drivers. Restart the computer and then disable the proprietary drivers (you really don't need them). Then restart the computer, and as it is restarting disconnect the ethernet cable.
[12:58] <cypher-neo> sanku, I do not know why, but it always seems to kick the modem and make it work!
[12:58] <maxagaz> is it possible to use the apple super drive on any pc under ubuntu ?
[12:58] <yeehaw> I smell a dirty hack :P
[12:58] <Ben64> maxagaz: probably. is it just a hard drive?
[12:59] <sanku> Seveas, ah, that is what i see, no gui -- was amaze a server would not have one.  Thanx
[12:59] <lalagirl> maxagaz I believe so
[12:59] <maxagaz> Ben64: no, it's a cd-rom drive
[12:59] <lalagirl> Ben64 it's a CD/DVD drive
[12:59] <Ben64> oh
[12:59] <cypher-neo> sanku, Oh, wait!! Server?
[12:59] <n3rV3> yeehaw, what are you talking about?
[12:59] <Ben64> usb connected... probably
[12:59] <lalagirl> maxagaz yes, you can use it
[12:59] <maxagaz> I'm not sure it works actually
[12:59] <maxagaz> lalagirl: how ?
[12:59] <Seveas> maxagaz, I believe it should work. If nobody knows, try googling :)
[12:59] <yeehaw> n3rV3: About Cypher-neo's trick
[12:59] <maxagaz> I tried...
[12:59] <cypher-neo> sanku, I've never done that on a server before!
[12:59] <maxagaz> I found nothing
[12:59] <lalagirl> maxagaz just connect it...
[13:00] <Ben64> yeah it should "just work" on ubuntu
[13:00] <maxagaz> Ben64: it should but it doesn't
[13:00] <Ben64> have you connected it?
[13:00] <cypher-neo> yeehaw, Dirty tricks sometimes work. I only discovered it because... let me think... 8.04 suggested I enable proprietary drivers (and when that didn't work) I disabled them.
[13:00] <n3rV3> yeehaw, oh ok
[13:00] <cypher-neo> yeehaw, And all of the sudden it worked!!
[13:00] <lalagirl> maxagaz i think you have to install it
[13:01] <atvr> i need help setting nomodeset in grub2 please help me i am new to this and i cant find info about that
[13:01] <maxagaz> lalagirl: what do you mean ?
[13:01] <Seveas> cypher-neo, that smells like the proprietary driver is setting some flags in the hardware that persist. Ugly.
[13:01] <lalagirl> maxagaz wait it says that it should be able to work without installation
[13:01] <n3rV3> yeah i had issues with one gbe card on ubuntu once
[13:02] <lalagirl> maxagaz when you connect it, it doesnt do anything, you have to put a disc inside
[13:02] <cypher-neo> Seveas, It's been fixed since 10.10 AFAIK...
[13:02] <cypher-neo> Seveas, I haven't had to do anything like that recently at least.
[13:02] <sanku> So now i have a server with NO gui or wireless connect, and a desktop with a sweet gui and wireless connect -- two machines -- wondering how to make the desktop ( with gui ) become server, and the server (without gui ) to have one ?
[13:02] <Seveas> sanku, to install a gui: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[13:02] <Jmgjamj> Hi
[13:03] <lalagirl> Jmgjamj hi
[13:03] <sanku> Hi Jmgjam
[13:03] <owenll1> atvr: Have you seen this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[13:03] <Seveas> to become a server: install whichever service it should perform, like apache, vsftpd or exom
[13:03] <cypher-neo> Seveas, Can you install a desktop on a server and preserve all the server functions?
[13:03] <bullgard4> Seveas: My apologies. --  Nautilus lists 5 Directory names of that electronic device: admin, music, photo, public, video. But no Size, Data Modified or Owner of them. What is the reason for these missing data displayed?
[13:03] <Seveas> cypher-neo, of course. There's no difference between a server and a desktop when it comes to 'server functionality'. All you need are the correct packages.
[13:03] <manners> anyone tried tvmobili
[13:03] <n3rV3> cypher-neo, yes definitely, performance would be hit though
[13:04] <atvr> owenll1: yes but i just dont understand
[13:04] <Seveas> bullgard4, click the button that makes it display this
[13:05] <sanku> Seveas: So, for a server, where are these packages hiding, say OpenSSH, LAMP, mail that i can then download, install somehow onto my desktop config ?
[13:05] <Romance> ok i think i just crashed my ubuntu :)
[13:05] <Seveas> sanku, sudo apt-get install openssh-server apache2 exim mysql php-mysql
[13:06] <maxagaz> lalagirl: the disc doesn't go inside, it's not powered on when I plug it
[13:06] <cypher-neo> n3rV3, I haven't worked much with servers. My last server attempt was with, uhhh... 8.10, or 9.04 and it failed miserably because i wasn't used to the server interface.
[13:06] <Seveas> cypher-neo, the terminal is your friend. Learn to love it :)
[13:07] <sanku> Saveas, true, if i had the dvd's.  But i have to do this over the internet.  Even discover pkg names, that you reeled off.  i have only the ONE install dvd.
[13:07] <cypher-neo> Seveas, I love the terminal!! In fact, I learned to love it more after my fail-server.
[13:07] <atvr> owenll: can you help me please
[13:07] <lalagirl> maxagaz okay here is the solution, reboot with the superdrive plugged in
[13:07] <maxagaz> lalagirl: I did that...
[13:08] <n3rV3> cypher-neo, yes start using and learning terminal
[13:08] <atvr> where do i put the nomodeset in ``linux.......... quiet splash vt . handsoff=7``
[13:08] <cypher-neo> n3rV3, Been there. That's practically all I use now.
[13:08] <n3rV3> :)
[13:09] <atvr> almoxarife: are you there my friend :)
[13:09] <sanku> Saveas, yes, may be i can use ' https://torrent.ubuntu.com ' which i see on the top of my screen on this channel -- and download those other dvd's.  Thanx for the ideas.
[13:09] <Seveas> atvr, in /etc/default/grub on the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT line after quiet splash
[13:09] <Seveas> atvr, and then run update-grub
[13:10] <lalagirl> maxagaz what version of ubuntu are you using?
[13:10] <lalagirl> maxagaz what version of ubuntu are you using?
[13:10] <atvr> where do i put the nomodeset in ``linux.......... quiet splash vt . handsoff=7``
[13:10] <almoxarife> atvr: put it on the end of the line
[13:10] <maxagaz> lalagirl: but still no power, the cd doesn't go inside the driver
[13:10] <lalagirl> maxagaz can you repeat that, i didn't get the message if you sent any
[13:10] <atvr> Seveas: i cant get into ubuntu, im stuck in the grub2
[13:10] <lalagirl> maxagaz what version of ubuntu are you using currently?
[13:10] <Seveas> atvr, do you see grub's menu?
[13:10] <maxagaz> lalagirl: 11.10
[13:11] <atvr> almoxarife: do i have to put a space between the 7 and the nomodeset
[13:11] <bullgard4> Seveas: I have pressed the button »Browse all local and remote disks and folders accessible from this computer." Nautilus changed the »Location:« display content to »smb://nas.server« but again lists the 5 directories of this device without Size, Data Modified and Owner data.
[13:11] <atvr> Seveas: yes i am, and im a the command line i have to edit
[13:11] <almoxarife> atvr: I would
[13:11] <atvr> Seveas: but i just dont know what to do
[13:11] <Seveas> atvr, ah ok. Then yes, at the end with a space after 7
[13:11] <atvr> ok im trying that
[13:12] <Seveas> bullgard4, try opening one of those folders. Do the details of files within them appear?
[13:13] <bullgard4> Seveas: Yes, they do.
[13:13]  * lalagirl maxagaz okay let me look this up
[13:13] <lalagirl> maxagaz let me look this up
[13:13] <bullgard4> Seveas: But the owner is not displayed.
[13:13] <lalagirl> what just happened? it was a message?
[13:14] <atvr> Seveas: its not working, now i am stuck at a black screen with white text and the last line says * cheking battery state...
[13:14] <maxagaz> lalagirl: okay
[13:14] <bullgard4> Seveas: The owner is displayed as »unknown«.
[13:14] <Seveas> bullgard4, that's because samba shares have no concept of 'owner'
[13:15] <Seveas> atvr, then 'nomodeset' wasn't enough
[13:15] <bullgard4> Seveas: Thank you for explaining.
[13:15] <atvr> Seveas: so what should i put
[13:15] <atvr> Seveas: my video card is a amd radeon
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> Seveas  is that because windows has no owner concept?
[13:16] <Seveas> MonkeyDust, it does. but afaik the smb/cifs protocol does not.
[13:16] <Seveas> and fat32 also doesn't
[13:17] <atvr> Seveas: do you think you can help me :) this is really anoying since ive pass all the night tryind to make it work
[13:17] <bullgard4> MonkeyDust: I can ping the electronic device. But '~$ ssh 192.168.178.33; ssh: connect to host 192.168.178.33 port 22: Connection refused'. What should I do?
[13:17] <andyn> windows has acl lists. dunno how those are mapped to smb perms
[13:18] <lalagirl> maxagaz i'm sorry, i don't know what's wrong… are you sure your superdrive isn't broken?
[13:18] <akira_> Hello.
[13:18] <rtr-> hi, i want to see all messages while booting, so i changed grub boot parameters to nosplash noquiet, but after that it shows another ubuntu screen (the one with the loading dots under ubuntu) which i have exit using escape. what is this? how is this screen called?
[13:18] <lalagirl> akira_ hi
[13:18] <Seveas> atvr, I don't think I can. Haven't worked with radeon cards for years.
[13:18] <atvr> okay
[13:18] <akira_> Hi. lalagirl.
[13:18] <maxagaz> lalagirl: it works fine on a macbook
[13:19] <Seveas> rtr-, that's probably plymouth.
[13:19] <almoxarife> wince-pim?
[13:19] <rtr-> thanks Seveas
[13:19] <atvr> almoxarife: do you think you could help me please, the nomodeset dosnt work my video card is a amd radeon ive pass all the night triyng to make it work
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> bullgard4  it seems to be a port 22 issue, it's for ssh
[13:20] <atvr> does anyone know how to edit grub2 to make a amd radeon video card work
[13:21] <n3rV3> atvr have you tried booting into the failsafe mode?
[13:21] <bullgard4> MonkeyDust: How can I put your message to good use?
[13:21] <lalagirl> maxagaz i'm not sure, sorry… i tried searching on the internet …. couldn't really find a problem with superdrive
[13:22] <atvr> n3rV3: no and i dont know how to do it, i am new to ubuntu
[13:22] <bullgard4> MonkeyDust: Can I use lsof -i to further analyze the problem?
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> bullgard4  i guess you need to install openssh-server and/or openssh-client
[13:22] <atvr> n3rV3: can you explan me how to
[13:23] <atvr> n3rV3: is this the same as recovery mode
[13:23] <n3rV3> atvr, yes it is
[13:24] <atvr> n3rV3: i am now at the recovery menu as those option, resume, fsck, remount and root
[13:25] <atvr> n3rV3: what is the option i have to choose
[13:25] <bullgard4> MonkeyDust: On my Ubuntu computer the packages openssh-client and openssh-server are installed and have been functional in the past.
[13:26] <n3rV3> atvr, don't remember exactly but there should be an option to boot into failsafe mode
[13:27] <atvr> n3rV3: i dont see that, ive pressed the resume option i am now at a terminal
[13:28] <lalagirl> maxagaz are you still there?
[13:28] <maxagaz> lalagirl: yes
[13:28] <lalagirl> maxagaz try updating your system
[13:28] <paul_> multitouch hp 2470p - pen ok - fingers doesn"t work any suggestions
[13:28] <maxagaz> lalagirl: it's upgraded already
[13:28] <oCean> bullgard4: from the error message it seems the ssh-server is not running on the remote system
[13:28] <lalagirl> maxagaz update it, not upgrade it
[13:28] <n3rV3> atvr, try running: startx
[13:29] <almoxarife> atvr: when you are ready to burn a cd with the iso we discussed then I can help
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> bullgard4  next thing on my mind: delete existing ssh-keys in ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[13:30] <bullgard4> MonkeyDust: I don't think that your advice will help with the present problem.
[13:30] <atvr> almoxarife: i have installed the way you said, i have burn the cd wich was not the same setup as the usb one, and now the installation has finish and it reboot, but the screen just not work
[13:30] <atvr> n3rV3: it dosent work
[13:31] <atvr> n3rV3: the last line says xinit: server error
[13:31] <lalagirl> maxagaz try opening terminal and do the foollowing "sudo apt-get update"
[13:31] <maxagaz> lalagirl: what do you mean ?
[13:31] <lalagirl> maxagaz look at message above
[13:32] <maxagaz> lalagirl: it's done already
[13:32] <n3rV3> atvr, give me some time i will try out the steps on my machine
[13:32] <atvr> n3rV3: okay thanks you very much :)
[13:32] <lalagirl> maxagaz okay now restart your comp with the drive plugged in and see if it works
[13:32] <maxagaz> lalagirl: I just did it too
[13:32] <sl1ck> How do I enable sound mixer (controls) in LXDE?
[13:33] <maxagaz> lalagirl: I thinking that it could come from the eeePC's usb port not delivering enough power, don't you think so ?
[13:33] <lalagirl> maxagaz oh i thought you were using a mac computer… lol maybe that's the problem
[13:34] <atvr> almoxarife: the installation whent perfecly but after i reboot, the screen dosnt work
[13:34] <lalagirl> maxagaz does it show a usb port with the lightening symbol (representing power)
[13:36] <sam_bristol> can I buy a hardware box that runs firewall/ antivirus from a reputable UK seller with support 'off the shelf' (not custom built)
[13:36] <maxagaz> lalagirl: it seems there's no LED on the superdrive
[13:36] <n3rV3> atvr, when you select ubuntu recovery mode on the next screen there is an option failsafex you need to select that
[13:36] <sam_bristol> running ubuntu obvs
[13:36] <n3rV3> atvr, this will take you to gui but then you will have to install drivers for you card
[13:36] <bullgard4> oCean: I am afraid that you are right. I found a list of installed programs. Among them is a FTP server but no SSH server listed.
[13:36] <BioNetbook_> hello
[13:37] <atvr> n3rV3: i dont see that option, maybe its fsck
[13:37] <BioNetbook_> i have an ircbot running on my homeserver (10.04)
[13:37] <lalagirl> maxagaz there is no led on the superdrive
[13:37] <BioNetbook_> i cannot ctcp with it because i keep getting connection refused
[13:37] <atvr> the description is check all file systems
[13:37] <oCean> bullgard4: aha. If you install "nmap" on your ubuntu machine, you can also use that to check which ports are open/listening on a remote machine/device (just a tip)
[13:37] <BioNetbook_> is there something other than iptables that could be blocking it?
[13:37] <n3rV3> atvr, its there on my system, which version of ubuntu are you using
[13:37] <BioNetbook_> (my router is port forwarded)
[13:37] <atvr> n3rV3: 11.10
[13:38] <Darael> So I've got a machine here which has two DVD drives, but neither of them appear to work and I don't have a blank CD anyway.  Problem is, my bootable USB stick doesn't work:  I can select it first in BIOS, or from the one-time boot menu, but I just get a screen with the text "Boot error", and if I hit enter it loads from the first hard disk.  Any ideas?
[13:41] <bullgard4> oCean: '~$ : nmap -sP 192.168.178.0/24' does list my electronic device "nas-server", its IP address and that it is up. How should I modify this command in order to check which ports are open/listening on the remote device?
[13:41] <mazda01> morning
[13:42] <oCean> bullgard4: without any options, my nmap command shows this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/788830/
[13:42] <Navin> hi, Need a bit of help....with my ubuntu installation
[13:42] <n3rV3> atvr, its there on my system 11.04 dunno why its missing on your system
[13:43] <atvr> n3rV3: i just googleiit to see and i think there is no failsafex on 11.10
[13:43] <Navin> I have a gfx card with dvi and vga output,
[13:43] <Navin> the ubuntu boots and then turns my monitor on VGA off
[13:43] <Navin> and I dont habve a dvi monitor to fix it
[13:43] <anddam> hello
[13:44] <Navin> any tips on how to get around this ?
[13:44] <n3rV3> atvr, yes found the links it seems they removed it from 11.10
[13:45] <paul_> multitouch hp 2470p - pen ok - fingers doesn"t work any suggestions
[13:45] <atvr> n3rV3: yup
[13:45] <bullgard4> oCean: '~$ : nmap nas-server' does not list port 22 but the ftp port 21 for tcp open. --  If I remember well the command nmap can determine the operating system of the remote electronic device. Is that right?
[13:46] <Navin> any one can help with how can I boot in text mode from the grub menu so that I can reconfigure the Xorg file ?
[13:46] <nick30> bullgard4: it can guess
[13:46] <anddam> how can I give an user permissions to only install software from Ubuntu Software Center?
[13:47] <bullgard4> nick30: What options should I append to nmap in order to do the estimation?
[13:47] <Navin> anddam: Do you want to limit the sources of installation ?
[13:47] <anddam> nope
[13:47] <oCean> bullgard4: sudo nmap -O host
[13:47] <Navin> anddam: then ?
[13:48] <atvr> n3rV3: does that look safe to do http://askubuntu.com/questions/68245/ubuntu-hits-a-black-screen-after-boot
[13:48] <anddam> Navin: I'd like to just let the user install software without providing him superuser permissions to do other things
[13:48] <oCean> bullgard4: anyway, usually those NAS devices have admin interfaces to dis/enable services such as ssh server
[13:49] <anddam> Navin: this is actually a nine years old boy for whom I created a regular user on edubuntu
[13:49] <n3rV3> atvr, well these steps are just to delete the files and create links for them
[13:50] <Navin> anddam: hmm.. I would not know a way directly to do that.
[13:50] <n3rV3> atvr, but wait don't run them yet
[13:50] <anddam> Navin: I thought something like a sudoers rule
[13:50] <atvr> n3rV3: okay
[13:51] <bullgard4> oCean: I have looked through the directories and through the manual but have not yet found menting SSH (but found a list of services offered).
[13:51] <bullgard4> s/menting/mentioning/
[13:51] <realhaxor> hello i have a problem with my ubuntu
[13:52] <realhaxor> can you help me please?
[13:52] <nick30> what is your problem?
[13:52] <realhaxor> i've uninstalled GNOME 3 in my ubuntu 11.04
[13:52] <realhaxor> bring back my unity
[13:52] <realhaxor> but i can't install simple-ccsm
[13:53] <realhaxor> need pastebin?
[13:53] <realhaxor> it seems they have broken package..
[13:53] <atvr> i am just fucking tired of that shit
[13:53] <oCean> atvr: control your language here, please
[13:53] <atvr> sorry
[13:54] <realhaxor> anyone can help?
[13:54] <n3rV3> atvr, i've made the changes try this link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/788835/
[13:54] <atvr> no one seem to have the solution ......
[13:54] <anddam> Navin: ah maybe http://askubuntu.com/questions/3/how-can-i-set-the-software-center-to-install-software-for-non-root-users
[13:54] <anddam> there's a sudoers hint too
[13:54] <realhaxor> yep
[13:54] <realhaxor> maybe
[13:55] <bazhang> realhaxor, from the PPA?
[13:55] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[13:56] <realhaxor> dunno.. but i tried from terminal using the command: sudo apt-get install simple-ccsm it returns with E: Broken packages. (After uninstalled GNOME 3)
 '~$ sudo nmap -O nas-server; No exact OS matches for host (If you know what OS is running on it, see http://nmap.org/submit/ ). OS detection performed. Please report any incorrect results at http://nmap.org/submit/ ." Is my result worth reporting?
[13:56] <iceroot> atvr: edit the grubline and put "nomodeset" on that, thats all
[13:56] <bazhang> realhaxor, well you would know if it was from the PPA
[13:56] <iceroot> !nox | atvr (this is an example how to edit that line)
[13:56] <realhaxor> bazhang: well, how to recover it?
[13:56] <bazhang> realhaxor, reinstall
[13:57] <realhaxor> reinstall my ubuntu?
[13:57] <bazhang> yes
[13:57] <n3rV3> atvr, did you give it a try?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/788835/
[13:57] <atvr> iceroot: i have already tried that
[13:57] <realhaxor> if we upgrade, the're will be no solutions?
[13:57] <iceroot> !details | atvr
[13:57] <oCean> bullgard4: not sure, the OS on NAS devices are often derivatives of Linux, I don't know if the people at nmap.org think it's useful
[13:57] <bazhang> since that was explicitly NOT supported, nope.  a reinstall is the fix
[13:57] <atvr> n3rV3: i cant get to the non x based terminal
[13:58] <realhaxor> well
[13:58] <realhaxor> ok..
[13:58] <realhaxor> thanks for the help!
[13:58] <nick30> realhaxor: if you don't have sensitive data, reinstall
 Thank you for your judgment.
[13:58] <nick30> ok, he left
[13:58] <n3rV3> atvr, but you were using the recovery mode, you can select drop to root prompt in it to get access and then try
[13:59] <atvr> iceroot:  i have installed ubuntu 11.10 with the alternative installation, the installation whent perfecly then it asked me to reboot, and then after the grub, the screen is going purple then black, my system is a toshiba satallite l745d with a amd radeon video card
[14:00] <iceroot> atvr: and you set "nomodeset"?
[14:00] <atvr> iceroot: yes and it didnt work, but maybe ive made a mistake, i am new to linux
[14:00] <dr_willis> ive often needed to use the nomodeset option untill i get the actual drivers installed.
[14:00] <yeehaw> atvr: Can't you press escape when it turns purple? You might get a prompt
[14:01] <dr_willis> Or try the 'text' kernel option in the grub menus
[14:01] <dr_willis> if you can get to the console. you may be able to get the ati drivers installed.
[14:02] <dr_willis> that would basically be the same as the recovery mode shell method.
[14:02] <atvr> n3rV3: it dosnt work
[14:03] <atvr> dr_willis: i cant press esc
[14:03] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:03] <atvr> dr_willis: it do nothing
[14:03] <n3rV3> atvr, use shift i think that will work
[14:04] <dr_willis> its shift for grub2 these days. if its hidden.
[14:04] <atvr> n3rV3: shift at the purple screen or when booting
[14:04] <n3rV3> atvr, when booting
[14:04] <dr_willis> tap the shift key like a  spastic woodpecker as it boots. :)
[14:04] <n3rV3> just after the bios screen
[14:05] <n3rV3> hehe
[14:05] <dr_willis> first thing i always do is make grub NOT auto hide..
[14:05] <dr_willis> such an annoying default.
[14:05] <atvr> n3rV3: it bring me too the grub2 menu
[14:05] <BluesKaj> dr_willis, why ?
[14:05] <atvr> wich i can edit command beford booting
[14:06] <dr_willis> BluesKaj: I dont see the point in having it hidden - other then to pacify neurotic users.
[14:06] <n3rV3> atvr, highlight first option for Ubuntu and press a
[14:06] <mytardis> i am having trouble getting the indie bundle #3 to work. when I try and run the launcher in crayon physics it keeps giving file not found response
[14:06] <atvr> n3rV3: i have tried puttin nomodeset but maybe i didnt do it correcly
[14:06] <n3rV3> atvr, we will try the single mode as dr_willis mention
[14:06] <atvr> n3rV3: pressing a does nothing
[14:06] <dr_willis> mytardis:  try running it from the terminal, it may give some erorr messages. also ive had issues with that game in linux and in windows.. it just seems.. well  badly done.
[14:06] <mytardis> I have chmod +x but that didnt help either, any idea's
[14:07] <n3rV3> atvr, for that add a space and type init=/bin/bash
[14:07] <mytardis> yes error is the same in terminal
[14:07] <n3rV3> atvr, then hit enter, this will take you to single mode
[14:07] <dr_willis> mytardis:  and the exact error is?
[14:07] <atvr> n3rV3: do you want me to press ``C`` for command line
[14:07] <BluesKaj> dr_willis, neurotic? , maybe they just want just a fast boot :)
[14:08] <n3rV3> no 'a' to append extra options to kernel entry
[14:08] <dr_willis> BluesKaj:  i doubt if they are gaining much.. a whole 2 sec? woopiee.. and we spend hours in here monthly explaining to people they need to tap the shift key.. at LEAST they could do is make it show a message 'hit some key for grub options' or have it be ANY key. :)
[14:09]  * dr_willis sees things from a 'person doing tech support' direction.
[14:09] <atvr> n3rV3: pressing the ``a`` key does nothing
[14:10] <n3rV3> atvr, hmm then press 'e' and the highlight line starting with linux and press 'e' again
[14:10] <Adrian_> Hi guys according to forums I have just been reading can someone confirm if I can't turn my ssd sata to ahci can I not install ubuntu to my ssd?
[14:10] <n3rV3> atvr, once you get the blinking cursor type in: init=/bin/bash
[14:10] <dr_willis> the recovery mode option in teh grub menu should be enough for atvr - no need for extra options if i recall correctly
[14:11] <mytardis> chris@chris-mint12 ~/CrayonPhysicsDeluxe $ ./crayon
[14:11] <mytardis> bash: ./crayon: No such file or directory
[14:11] <n3rV3> dr_willis, tried it they have removed failsafex from 11.10
[14:11] <dr_willis> mytardis:  you sure thats the proper name? use TAB key to get it spelt/completed properly
[14:12] <mytardis> dr_willis; tab get yielded same result
[14:12] <atvr> n3rV3: i cant highlight the line starting with linux
[14:12] <Adrian_> Anybody had any trouble installing ubuntu to an ssd
[14:13] <atvr> dr_willis: after getting in recovery mode, what you want me to do
[14:13] <BluesKaj> dr_willis, well, I don't need to see grub unless absolutely necessary , If I do , I just hold the shift key down after the bios scrn
[14:13] <lalagirl> bye everyone!!!!!!!!!!!! have a happy new years eve
[14:13] <mytardis> chris@chris-mint12 ~/CrayonPhysicsDeluxe $ ls -l crayon
[14:13] <mytardis> -rwxr-xr-x 1 chris chris 4405800 2011-08-03 18:31 crayon
[14:13] <sirajperson> is anyone else here having stability problems with ubuntu? I mean this darn thing is so slow.
[14:13] <dr_willis> BluesKaj:  the issue is from a tech support point of view.. its just another layer we have to explain/peel back to fix things
[14:13] <RedCoffe> hallo
[14:14] <sirajperson> Ever since they switched to unity it just seems to be going down hill
[14:14] <RedCoffe> german irc?
[14:14] <Adrian_> anybody good with ssd installaion
[14:14] <mytardis> strange ./crayon found with TAB, however crayon is not?
[14:14] <RedCoffe> ist das der german hier xd
[14:14] <BluesKaj> #ubuntu-de , RedCoffe
[14:14] <yeehaw> Adrian_: It's the same as normal, why?
[14:14] <sirajperson> imo unity just plain stinks.
[14:15] <atvr> dr_willis: do you know how to help me
[14:15] <sirajperson> and when you install gnome3 the whole os seems to get less stable.
[14:15] <yeehaw> Adrian_: Only to save space you might want to put the /home partition on a harddrive
[14:15] <Adrian_> yeehaw: cant recognize the disk size or format!! Only thing I can think of is to try and preformat the ssd to ext4 in win 7
[14:15] <sirajperson> It has been a pain trying find a whole new distro.
[14:15] <sirajperson> I tried kebuntu... fail
[14:16] <sirajperson> kubuntu***
[14:16] <dr_willis> atvr:  i dont have the boot menus memorized any more. there should be some revovery/failsafe mode in the grub menu to get you to a shell.
[14:16] <yeehaw> Adrian_: You could try that with the ubuntu livecd with the program gparted. Is ahci on in the bios?
[14:16] <dr_willis> atvr:  onve you get to a shell. you can try fixing things
[14:16] <sirajperson> so, after that I tried linux mint
[14:16] <oCean> sirajperson: did you join here to just rant, or do you have an actual question?
[14:17] <atvr> dr_willis: in the recovery menu i have the option root wich drop to root shell prompt
[14:17] <Adrian_> yeehaw: have been trying to do that but have not had any luck yet, gparted cant help tried live boot and in windows. don't think I have ahci capability. this is a new build and I neglected to check that detail, don't want to put an old disk in either if I can avoid it.
[14:17] <dr_willis> atvr:  so now you can try to fix things.. but i forget the original issue.
[14:17] <bazhang> !mintsupport | sirajperson
[14:18] <atvr> dr_willis: i dont know how to fix it lol, my issu is im having a black screen after grub, the screen isnt working
[14:18] <dr_willis> atvr:  so - you havent even tried the 'nomodeset' option?
[14:18] <yeehaw> Adrian_: hmm.. I don't really know then. My ssd was just supported like a normal harddrive
[14:19] <Adrian_> yeehaw: all data is on a nas so have 90gb force for dual boot os win7 and thought I might play with new ubuntu distro as haven't dual booted for a while and looks good.
[14:19] <atvr> dr_willis: yes ive tryed that in the editing grub, but it didnt work or maybe ive not do it corectly
[14:19] <yeehaw> Adrian_: What happens if you shrink the windows partition in Windows? Then you'll have unused space where you might be able to install Ubuntu
[14:20] <Adrian_> yeehaw: have 35gb raw waiting but ubuntu wont play ball. I assume ahci would be mentioned in mb spec or manual and it isn't?
[14:20] <freenodiz> Hi,when changing the hostname ,i insert echo "plato" > /etc/hostname  AND hostname -F /etc/hostname .  I don't understand what hostname -F is actually doing.what means tht second command i have to enter hostname -F ?
[14:20] <yeehaw> Adrian_: You can't find it in bios either?
[14:20] <yeehaw> Adrian_: It's mostly called sata mode: ide or ahci
[14:21] <dr_willis> atvr:  last i checked the !nomodeset url gave screenshots.  or you could edit the /etc/default/grub file and  change where it says 'quiet splash' to read 'nomodeset noquiet nosplash'   (to turn off other things that may be hiding error messages)   Then rerun 'update-grub' and reboot.. might get it going.
[14:21] <freenodiz> what this code is doing?  hostname -F /etc/hostname
[14:21] <_ikke_> I'm trying the ubuntu liveusb on a laptop, but it doesn't see the wireless adapter (not in ifconfig, not in lspci, not in dmesg). But I can't seem to find the model of the wireless adapter (it's a realtek). Anyone a clue how I can enable it?
[14:21] <Adrian_> as soon as I'm off irc I will reboot and check but just checked the gigabyte site and documentation and no mention only raid!
[14:21] <gurrot72> hmm.. i played with irssi and autlog on and off and loglevels.. now it wont log again.. any idea whats wrong?
[14:22] <dr_willis> _ikke_:  could be the wireless switch has it off, so its not seen
[14:22] <yeehaw> freenodiz: hostname -F /etc/hostname reads the hostname from /etc/hostname
[14:22] <_ikke_> dr_willis: It does not seem to respond (the orange light is not going on when I switch it)
[14:22] <_ikke_> dr_willis: And no message in dmesg
[14:22] <freenodiz> yeehaw,wht do you mean with "reads"?
[14:23] <_ikke_> dr_willis: Note that the light was on when I booted
[14:23] <yeehaw> Adrian_: Ok, what type of mb do you have?
[14:23] <sirajperson> Adrian_: so you are trying to install on your 35gb hd but you can't?
[14:23] <dr_willis> _ikke_:  on some systems - ive had to turn on wireless in windows.. then reboot to linux. and make sure to NEVER turn it off via the switch.
[14:23] <freenodiz> yeehaw,is it executing somenthing?or is just confirming the hostname?
[14:23] <yeehaw> freenodiz: it reads the hostname from that file and then sets it
[14:23] <atvr> dr_willis: i dont know to make those change in a terminal but if i edit in the grub2 will it be good
[14:23] <_ikke_> dr_willis: It was turned on in windows
[14:24] <Adrian_> yeehaw: no set windows with 60gb and planned to use remaining 30gb for ubuntu.
[14:24] <dr_willis> atvr:  sudo nano /etc/default/grub  use ctrl-SOMTHING (says at the bottom) to save
[14:24] <xgt001> where can i get some unity themes?
[14:24] <freenodiz> ahh,so it sets it :)...tha'ts what i wanted to know.to "echo" writes that file,then -F comes to read the file and set it in the system,ok
[14:24] <yeehaw> Adrian_: you're adressing the wrong guy, but what kind of motherboard do you have?
[14:25] <sirajperson> xgt001: there just aren't a lot of them out there
[14:25] <yeehaw> freenodiz: Btw, you could have done man hostname on the command line and found it in about 10 secs ;-)
[14:25] <Adrian_> yeehaw: mb is gigabyte m68mt-s2p, sorry sirajperson.
[14:25] <Adrian_> sirajperson: 90gb corsair force 60gb win 7 and remaining 30gb meant for ubuntu.
[14:26] <yeehaw> Adrian_: Looks like your motherboard uses a special NVIDIA driver for ahci
[14:26] <xgt001> sirajperson, exactly, i am stuck with ambiance :(
[14:27] <Adrian_> yeehaw:so maybe not a total loss, I might just reboot quickly, nice thing about this ssd is it is so quick, will be back shortly, thanks yeehaw.
[14:27] <yeehaw> Adrian_: Don't know if that's the problem btw
[14:27] <dr_willis> _ikke_:  im out of ideas then
[14:27] <_ikke_> dr_willis: Weird, the switch doesn't even seem to do anything in windows
[14:27] <freenodiz> yeehaw,thanks a lot ;) .it seems well documented :)
[14:27] <BluesKaj> atvr, after editing in nano , ctl+o to save , then enter, then ctrl+x to save and exit
[14:27] <freenodiz> yeehaw ++
[14:28] <sirajperson> xgt001: after realizing how little customization I could do with unity i switched to gnome3
[14:28] <yeehaw> freenodiz: Almost every command in Linux, but some manpages are not really readable for human pages
[14:28] <yeehaw> freenodiz: -pages
[14:28] <Adrian_> yeehaw:as far as I have googled it seems to be my most likely issue. if it is or isn't issue can I partition the drive to ext4 in win, do you think it might help?
[14:28] <yeehaw> Well, I don't think Windows is able to do this. But some third party tool might]
[14:28] <xgt001> sirajperson, no there is more customisation in unity actually, gnome needs lots of extensions though
[14:28] <_ikke_> dr_willis: It's the realtek8187B
[14:29] <Adrian_> That was my last hope, be back shortly hopefully with ahci enabled.
[14:29] <yeehaw> Adrian_: good luck
[14:29] <dr_willis> _ikke_:  means little to me. You could check the forums and askubuntu.com  about that specific chipset.
[14:29] <Adrian_> yeehaw:thanks again
[14:29] <_ikke_> dr_willis: Right, I found a ubunti wiki about it
[14:31] <slymico> I need a pdf guide for or other reference for ubuntu server administration
[14:31] <dr_willis> slymico:  thats a very very broad topic.
[14:31] <dr_willis> !server
[14:32] <slymico> ok but I need config a server for multihosting
[14:32] <atvr> dr_willis: i am lost XD i dont find what youve said
[14:32] <slymico> it is my specific requirement
[14:33] <yeehaw> slymico: You mean like a shared hosting platform with multiple websites running next to each other?
[14:34] <slymico> I need create three hosting in my ubuntu server each one have a different domain
[14:34] <yeehaw> slymico: You can just do that with a normal apache install
[14:34] <yeehaw> !apache
[14:34] <timposey> can anyone explain to me why a system would not show the grub screen?
[14:34] <freenodiz> yeehaw,how can i exit from man hostname information page?
[14:34] <yeehaw> freenodiz: q
[14:34] <theadmin> freenodiz: q
[14:34] <slymico> yes, I Know it
[14:34] <freenodiz> ok
[14:34] <yeehaw> slymico: Then what's you question?
[14:34] <slymico> I have 3 vistual host but is not working
[14:35] <yeehaw> Ok, could you paste one in pastebin?
[14:35] <slymico> how I configure the visrtual host and link the domain
[14:36] <atvr> dr_willis: when i am trying to save, it says error writing read-only file system
[14:36] <slymico> yeehaw: It's clear?
[14:36] <dr_willis> atvr:  in /etc/default/grub   the line (similer to this one) GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="noquiet nosplash nomodeset nofb "
[14:36] <yeehaw> slymico: You point the A-record of the domain to the ipadress of your server. Then in the vhost-conf you set the domain to a specific folder
[14:36] <timposey> I need to get into recovery mode but my grub splash screen is not showing no matter what I do, I have searched the web but see nothing any answers?
[14:36] <yeehaw> slymico: COuld you give me a vhostconfig in pastebin?
[14:36] <dr_willis> there might have been some 'remount in rw mode' item at the start of the recovery menus.
[14:36] <slymico> yeehaw: I'm using webmin
[14:36] <_ikke_> dr_willis: Would there be a difference between a Live USB boot and a real installation?
[14:37] <BluesKaj> atvr, use sudo nano to edit with permissions
[14:37] <dr_willis> _ikke_:   the live cd might do hw detection a little differntly.
[14:37] <_ikke_> ok
[14:37] <yeehaw> slymico: err.. I have no experience in that. I work at an isp, where we do everthing manually :P
[14:37] <_ikke_> dr_willis: lsusb does show the adapter
[14:37] <Dina> hello, when was the last time ubuntu had released updates? i haven't seen any for 16days in update-manager
[14:38] <_ikke_> dr_willis: dmesg says: rtl8187 switch is on
[14:38] <_ikke_> dr_willis: Ah, it does seem to be on now
[14:38] <yeehaw> Dina: What happens if you type the following in the command line: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:38] <yeehaw> Dina: Any errors in that output?
[14:39] <Dina> nope
[14:39] <Dina> it downloads normally some translations, packages etc
[14:39] <yeehaw> Dina: What version of ubuntu are you running?
[14:39] <Dina> 11.10
[14:40] <yeehaw> Dina: hmm.. I don't know the release schedule, but I would'nt worry to much
[14:40] <Adrian_> Adrian_NH
[14:40] <Dina> well yeehaw it's weird i haven't seen any security update for 16days :/
[14:41] <yeehaw> Dina: apt-get update checks the repositorys for updated packages. If it gives no errors, the repositorys are online for you. Does it give any output at all?
[14:41] <Adrian_> yeehaw: no joy it seems nothing in bios menu mentions ahci? anybody have any solutions?
[14:42] <yeehaw>  Adrian_: You could try putting the bios back to optimized defaults. There's a very tiny change that might work.
[14:42] <MonkeyDust> Dina  it seems to me, you're worrying because all is ok
[14:43] <yeehaw> Adrian_: Dina: gtg, sorry
[14:43] <Dina> okay :) ty for help
[14:43] <Adrian_> yeehaw: thanks
[14:44] <Dina> MonkeyDust: im not worrying that much, it's just weird
[14:44] <atvr> dr_willis: okay, so here it is lol i have made all the change you want me too, then i have updated the grub then i have rebooted and i have still the same issu
[14:44] <Dina> i was expecting a firefox9 in updates too :p
[14:44] <slymico> I need a book for ubuntu server configuration
[14:44] <atvr> dr_willis: but now i dont have the purple screen, it just go streat to the black one
[14:45] <dr_willis> atvr:  no text messages or errors mentioned? no shell login: prompt?
[14:46] <atvr> dr_willis: no
[14:46] <timposey> changed my root/admin password, is there anyway to get back into the system?  I can't sudo anything, so I can't change the way the system is working. /etc/default/grub.txt has GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" which I could use, but can't change because I don't have sudo access.  anyone with answers would be greatly appreciated.
[14:46] <atvr> atvr: it seems like it get into ubuntu but with no screen
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> timposey  try booting a live cd and change the password from there
[14:46] <dr_willis> !password
[14:46] <atvr> dr_willis: maybe the screen resolution is not right
[14:46] <theadmin> timposey: Append "init=/bin/bash" to your kernel line via the grub menu while booting.
[14:46] <dr_willis> atvr:  could be. hard to tell.  nomodeset works for my problem machines
[14:47] <theadmin> timposey: Then "mount -o remount,rw / && passwd somebody && sync && mount -o remount,ro / && reboot -f"
[14:47] <atvr> dr_willis: do you know how to put the nomodeset in the edit grub2 menu
[14:47] <dr_willis> atvr:  thats what we were doing.... making nomdoeset the default
[14:48] <timposey> theadmin are you saying by using the live cd? because otherwise I don't have grub menu
[14:48] <dr_willis> atvr:  in /etc/default/grub   the line (similer to this one) GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="noquiet nosplash nomodeset nofb "
[14:48] <theadmin> timposey: You need to hold Shift while grub is loading to get into it
[14:48] <dr_willis> sets nomodeset and turns of other potential problem settings
[14:49] <atvr> dr_willis: i know but when im in grub menu i can press ``e`` to edit comand before booting then i have this line ``linux.....noquiet nosplash nomodeset nofb``
[14:49] <timposey> theadmin, MondeyDust:  ok, let me try that thanks for the help!
[14:50] <raven> any cmd tool to delete rw-disks?
[14:50] <dr_willis> atvr: if you just wanted to get to the text console very time  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="noquiet nosplash nomodeset nofb text"   editing the grub menu via 'e' sets it for one time booting.. the /etc/default/grub file sets it permenetly
[14:51] <atvr> dr_willis:  oke but i have made it like you said with the /etc/default/grub file
[14:51] <dr_willis> atvr:  if nomodeset dosetn help. im out of ideas. you could try installing the drivers for whatever card you have via 'jockey-text' or apt-get if you know the package name
[14:52] <atvr> dr_willis: never mind i think i will be installing windows again
[14:52] <dr_willis> atvr:  you said you had a guide on it.. im just going from basic trouble shooting stuff.
[14:53] <Metroshica> dr_willis whats the issue youre having exactly?
[14:53] <dr_willis> Metroshica:  not me.. atvr .
[14:53] <atvr> dr_willis: i know but i dont know what to do now, i would like to have ubuntu but it just dont work
[14:53] <timposey> theadmin:  Holding down the shift key does not give me the grub screen
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> atvr  what part of ubuntu doesnt work?
[14:54] <atvr> Metroshica: my issu is when ubuntu boot, my screen is going black
[14:54] <theadmin> timposey: Which Ubuntu version are you running? Are you holding down left or right shift? (has to be left one iirc)
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> atvr  before or after the grub screen?
[14:54] <atvr> MonkeyDust: i cant get into ubuntu after the grub, my screen is going black
[14:54] <atvr> MonkeyDust: after
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> so it's a gui issue
[14:55] <atvr> MonkeyDust: what that, and can you help me solving this
[14:55] <rkokkelk> atvr: do you see a little underscore blinking?
[14:55] <atvr> MonkeyDust: i am new to linux
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> atvr  can you boot a live cd?
[14:55] <timposey> theadmin I was using the left shift, 10.04
[14:56] <atvr> rkokkelk: yes and after that the screen is completly black like its shut off
[14:56] <theadmin> timposey: Hmmm 10.04, I don't remember if that had grub2 yet... Try with Escape
[14:56] <atvr> MonkeyDust: yes i have one
[14:56] <dr_willis> grub2 = tap the shift key
[14:57] <rkokkelk> atvr: if the underscore is blinking it means it cannot boot the partition it wants to boot, this is usually because the root or boot partitioning is not enabled with the boot flag
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> atvr  have you tried choosing Recovery in the grub menu?
[14:57] <timposey> theadmin, ok, I'll be back in a minute
[14:58] <rkokkelk> atvr: if ubuntu is properly listed in grub, it probably not an grub error but an partitioning error
[14:58] <atvr> MonkeyDust: yes and i have 4 option to choose
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> atvr  choose Repair, see what happens
[14:59] <atvr> rkokkelk: even with a live cd i can only install the alternative iso, the only i can instal it with the normal one is to have nomodeset
[14:59] <atvr> MonkeyDust: okay
[15:00] <atvr> MonkeyDust: i dont have repair option, i only have resume, fsck, remount and root
[15:00] <timposey> theadmin: escape did not work either
[15:01] <rkokkelk> atvr: but what kind of partitioning you use, do you use automatic or do you configure it yourself?
[15:02] <atvr> rkokkelk: ubuntu is the only os installed it used the whole hdd wich is 640gb
[15:02] <rkokkelk> atvr: but have you set the root or boot partitioning with the bootable flag?
[15:03] <auronandace> rkokkelk: sounds like a graphics issue, not a partition issue to me
[15:03] <auronandace> atvr: did you try dr_willis suggestions?
[15:03] <atvr> rkokkelk: no, when i have installed ubuntu i have just selected the hdd
[15:03] <wiredvamp> everytime i restart my comp i aways have to restart my xscreensaver because i get this waring " The GNOME screensaver daemon appears to be running it must be stoppedfor XScreenSaver to work properly.  Stop the GNOME screen saver daemon now? " how can i unistall the GNOME screensaver?
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> atvr  the first time installing ubuntu?
[15:04] <rkokkelk> auronandace: usually if it's an graphical issue you get some feedback, like error message or flashing screen, if he sees only an underscore blinking it means i cannot access the partitioning
[15:04] <atvr> dr_willis: now i am at a screen that tells me there is 4new packages ans 291packages that are going to be updated and i have to select yes or no
[15:04] <atvr> MonkeyDust: yes
[15:04] <slakcphil> wiredvamp, try gnome-screensaver-command --exit
[15:04] <MonkeyDust> atvr  choose yes,
[15:04] <auronandace> rkokkelk: he also said that to get the livecd working he needs to use nomodeset, which it sounds like he hasn't tried on his install
[15:04] <atvr> MonkeyDust: okep
[15:05] <almoxarife> atvr: is ubuntu running on the hardrive or the usb?
[15:06] <atvr> almoxarife: on the hdd
[15:06] <wiredvamp> slakcphil: ok? what will that do?
[15:06] <atvr> MonkeyDust: all update have been made now, and i have rebooted now im at a screen wich ask me my user name and password
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> atvr  problem solved?
[15:07] <dr_willis> atvr:  so you are now getting to a login CONSOLE? or a nice gui login?
[15:07] <atvr> longin console
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> atvr  ctrl-alt-delete
[15:08] <atvr> it says that 295package can be updated and 56 are security updates
[15:08] <slakcphil> wiredvamp, it should stop the screensaver process if it is already running, you could do that remotely(that is how i used it)
[15:09] <slakcphil> wiredvamp, man gnome-screensaver-command
[15:09] <atvr> what is the command to get the update
[15:09] <atvr> MonkeyDust:
[15:09] <dr_willis> atvr:  from a console you can do a 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' to install all updated.
[15:09] <dr_willis> atvr:  some times  things may get held back andyou do a 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' to pull in eveyrthing
[15:09] <wiredvamp> slakcphil: i would like to uninstall the GNOME screensaver though not just stop it.
[15:09] <insectatorious> guys, I did an upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 and then 9.10 to 10.04 via the alternate-CDs in each case. Now I get a black screen after the initial bios blurb. I have looked at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 and the nomodeset does not have any effect.
[15:10] <slakcphil> wiredvamp, my guess is that you cannot, maybe you could disable it however,
[15:11] <slakcphil> wiredvamp, on a side note, i want to write(in py) a screensaver that is like the one in jurassic park movie witht the fat guy(newman) waving his fingre saying ah ah ah, you didn't say the magic password
[15:11] <atvr> MonkeyDust: even if i have restarted i still have the console logging thing
[15:12] <wiredvamp> slakcphil: i was able to uninstall it b4 but i cant seem to find GNOME screensaver in the software center for some reason.
[15:12] <dr_willis> atvr:  'startx' should start a X session from the console - if its set up right.
[15:13] <atvr> dr_willis: it says server error
[15:13] <bd7349> Anyone mind helping me out with getting Ubuntu 11.10 installed on a separate partition on my MacBook Air
[15:13] <bd7349> ?
[15:13] <almoxarife> atvr: are you connect to the internet via hardwire?
[15:13] <atvr> almoxarife: yes
[15:14] <auronandace> bd7349: where are you stuck?
[15:14] <almoxarife> atvr: did you start the update? don't if you have not
[15:14] <atvr> i have use 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' and the updated have started
[15:14] <atvr> almoxarife: :S
[15:15] <bd7349> auronandace: I don't know what to format my partition as. I'vel looked everywhere online and can't figure it out. I've got a USB stick plugged in, but cannot go any further without knowing what to format my partition as.
[15:15] <auronandace> bd7349: you are installing to usb stick?
[15:16] <jrwr> Ive been having some trackpad issues with this new install of Xubuntu (11.10) The mouse seems to drift up or down if I try and be precise with it, || lspci : http://paste.ubuntu.com/788883/ .. Xorg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/788884/
[15:16] <atvr> almoxarife: do you think update could solve my issue
[15:16] <jrwr> whats the best way to go about fixing this issue
[15:16] <timposey> MonkeyDust:  I burned a live cd and I am at the first screen of the live cd, where do I go from here to change the password
[15:16] <bd7349> auronandace: no, but I want to install it from a USB stick. Unless there are easier ways that will work with my MacBook Air?
[15:16] <auronandace> bd7349: oh, just chose the default partition type ext4
[15:17] <almoxarife> atvr: no
[15:17] <bd7349> auronandace: I don't see that as one of the options in Disk Utility. Do you mean ExFAT?
[15:17] <almoxarife> atvr: I rather be told I was wrong
[15:17] <auronandace> bd7349: no, are you on the live usb now?
[15:17] <atvr> almoxarife: what do you mean
[15:18] <bd7349> auronandace: Sorry, I'm confused. What do you mean by live usb?
[15:18] <auronandace> bd7349: you are installing ubuntu via usb? have you booted that usb?
[15:18] <almoxarife> atvr: it means I don't think I am wrong, but it would be nice to be wrong
[15:19] <n1c0-nuX> join #linux
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> timposey  http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/reset-your-ubuntu-password-easily-from-the-live-cd/
[15:19] <bd7349> auronandace: not yet. I still need to put ubuntu 11.10 on the USB stick. Should I convert the .iso to a .img or is that not necessary?
[15:19] <auronandace> !usb | bd7349
[15:19] <atvr> almoxarife: i just think i would be nice to see ubuntu booting damit lol<
[15:20] <almoxarife> atvr: there is a % at the beginning of the line, what's the number
[15:20] <timposey> MonkeyDust:  I burned the Ubuntu Server cd instead of the live desktop, I'm burning again now.  Thanks for the link...
[15:20] <atvr> almoxarife: 56
[15:20] <haylo> id reccomend running a live cd and then making the usb stick with startup disk creator inside of that
[15:20] <n1c0-nuX> hello everyone
[15:20] <bd7349> auronandace: also, what should my usb stick be formatted as?
[15:20] <n1c0-nuX> I'm a frech user and i wanna some help about the creation of "scripts"
[15:21] <atvr> almoxarife: its now 65%
[15:21] <haylo> fat 32
[15:21] <rkokkelk> n1co-nuX: what kind of script do you wanna create?
[15:21] <auronandace> bd7349: i've not installed via usb so i wouldn't know, but that link that ubottu gave you should tell you what you need to know
[15:21] <insectatorious> i realise the 'nomodeset' isn't terribly exciting but could someone help out?
[15:22] <n1c0-nuX> rkokkelk, Uuh, execute many commands by launching a simgle file
[15:22] <haylo> fat 32 and make it with unetbootin or Pendrive linux if you are in windows
[15:22] <pythonirc101> I just did a do-release-upgrade. And now it asks me which hard drive it should install grub on : /dev/sda - /dev/sda1 or /dev/dm-0 -- any hints on what the right answer is? is it ok to install it on all 3?
[15:22] <pythonirc101> I hope I've not killed my system already
[15:22] <haylo> sry not pendrive linus "universal usb creator"
[15:23] <rkokkelk> n1c0-nuX: okay on internet are a lot of tutorials about this, but very short, an script is an file that start with #!/bin/bash everything undernead this line are just normal command executed in the order they are listed in the file
[15:23] <jrwr> Python1320,  your drive is sda just install grub there
[15:23] <haylo> universal usb creator is your best bet for going from windows to ubuntu with only a usb
[15:23] <auronandace> haylo: he is on a mac
[15:24] <n1c0-nuX> rkokkelk, ok and wich extention do I add to the file ?
[15:24] <haylo> ah you know macs are notorious for not working with usb: but unetbootin should be fully compatible for macs unix system
[15:24] <n1c0-nuX> (sry for my approximative english)
[15:24] <haylo> macs have trouble booting form usb i dont know why but i hear it all the time
[15:25] <rkokkelk> n1c0-nuX: the file doesn't need to have an extension, so it just need to be able to execute
[15:25] <rkokkelk> n1c0-nuX: you can do this with chmod +x FILE
[15:25] <haylo> i would make a normal dvd or cd and use that on the mac
[15:25] <auronandace> haylo: he left
[15:25] <haylo> oh lol sorry il shut up
[15:25] <n1c0-nuX> rkokkelk, thank you very much n_n
[15:26] <wiredvamp> does anyone happen to know how to uninstall the GNOME screensaver beings i have XScreenSaver installed?
[15:26] <rkokkelk> n1c0-nuX: no problem, but you can do a lot of cool stuff with scripts so just check the internet for all the posibilities ;)
[15:27] <n1c0-nuX> rkokkelk, Yea I'll check it out
[15:29] <raven> how to format dvd/cd rw disk with cmd?+
[15:30] <dr_willis> wiredvamp:  i recall the webupd8 blog site having a few tweaks on using xcreensavers as a replacement to gnome-screensaver.
[15:30] <dr_willis> wiredvamp:  i think theres some 'gnome-screensavers' package you just remove
[15:31] <pythonirc101> jrwr: what about the other drives?
[15:31] <wiredvamp> dr_willis could u point me to the link?
[15:31] <haylo> what protocol does the remote desktop app use in unity 11.04? is it ssh?
[15:32] <Seveas> haylo, the default ubuntu-to-ubuntu remote desktop is vnc
[15:32] <BluesKaj> raven, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2005-January/017646.html
[15:32] <Seveas> but ubuntu has applications to support rdp or vnc+ssh as well
[15:35] <haylo> yeah i have gftp and openssh installed. i have a hard time moving directories with ssh though
[15:35] <pythonirc101> anyone can help me with grub installs after do-release-upgrade. I do not want to brick my system.
[15:36] <haylo> i would like something my family could use safely to move files and directories around. or should i just use the ssh scp command if i want security?
[15:36] <syockit> pythonirc101: just in case, a liveCD or liveUSB would be handy. you'll never know when you'll brick it, so better safe than sorry. And it's possible to recover your system from liveCD/USB
[15:36] <pythonirc101> If I install grub on /dev/sda, do I also have to install it in /dev/sda1?
[15:37] <Seveas> pythonirc101, no
[15:37] <pythonirc101> syockit: I've 3 options: /dev/dm-0 /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda
[15:37] <pythonirc101> so I just install it on /dev/sda?
[15:37] <pythonirc101> /dev/sda1 (254MB /boot)
[15:37] <Seveas> /dev/sda is where you will want it, yes
[15:37] <syockit> pythonirc101: what's dm-0?
[15:37] <Seveas> syockit, software raid
[15:37] <timposey> MonkeyDust:  I follow the commands until I get to the command to chroot and it comes back chroot:  failed to run command '/bin/bash': Exec format error - any pointers from here
[15:38] <pythonirc101> says (33025MB tbuntu-root) /dev/dm-0
[15:38] <BluesKaj> raven, or install wodim and do , wodim dev=/dev/cdrom blank=fast
[15:38] <Seveas> timposey, you're chrooting into a partition with the wrong cpu architecture
[15:38] <Seveas> such as trying to chroot into a 64-bit ubuntu on a 32-bit kernel
[15:38] <pythonirc101> k chose /dev/sda
[15:39] <timposey> seveas; ok that may be the problem I will burn the 3rd cd now... I can't remember what I have on this computer...
[15:39] <atvr> almoxarife: all updated are done now, so when it boot it bring me to a login terminal console, when i loged i have tryed startx then there is alot of imformation that i am able to see but there is a place that is written fatal server error: no screens found
[15:40] <Seveas> timposey, try this: filw /path/to/chroot/bin/bash
[15:40] <Seveas> that'll tell you whether it's 32 or 64 bit
[15:40] <Seveas> file, not filw btw :)
[15:41] <BluesKaj> atvr, which graphics card , in the terminal , lspci | grep VGA
[15:41] <almoxarife> atvr: run this         sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[15:41] <DarkXPhenomenon> happy new yr ubottu!! :P
[15:41] <timposey> seveas filw command not found
[15:42] <Seveas> timposey, it's spelled 'file' :)
[15:42] <beyondcr> #ubuntu+1
[15:42] <BluesKaj> atvr, sorry, at the prompt , lspci | grep VGA
[15:43] <timposey> seveas  sorry... cannot open no such file or directory
[15:43] <Seveas> timposey, then type in the correct path..
[15:43] <atvr> BluesKaj: i dont see it in the terminal but its a amd radeon card
[15:43] <vicsar> .
[15:44] <atvr> almoxarife: update are done
[15:44] <almoxarife> atvr: you ran the line I gave you?
[15:44] <atvr> almoxarife: yes
[15:44] <BluesKaj> atvr, you have a prompt , right ? , then just type it there , your card will be listed
[15:45] <atvr> BluesKaj: type what lol i am new to linux
[15:45] <almoxarife> atvr: this on the next line cat /var/log/xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[15:45] <melissa27> is there a way to make an already booted ubuntulive cd persistant by manually copying and mounting the fs ?
[15:45] <sirajperson> does anyone know of a good nintendo emulator for ubutnu 64bit?
[15:45] <BluesKaj> atvr, lspci | grep VGA
[15:45] <almoxarife> that is a zero
[15:46] <almoxarife> and the long L is pipe
[15:46] <timposey> seveas: I guess I need to wake up... ELF 32BIT LSB executable, Intel 80386
[15:46] <atvr> almoxarife: how can i do that ( | )
[15:46] <almoxarife> atvr: shift \
[15:47] <almoxarife> atvr: what you will get in response is a link, share that
[15:47] <timposey> Seveas:  I was trying to boot into it with a 32bit ubuntu live cd
[15:47] <Seveas> timposey, hmm, that should just work
[15:47] <timposey> seveas:  does it have to be the same 10.04 release of ubuntu
[15:48] <Seveas> timposey, no
[15:48] <Seveas> try chroot /path/to/chroot /bin/sh
[15:49] <atvr> almoxarife: it says you are trying to send an empty document
[15:49] <spaceneedle> PowerTop reports that an audio device is active 100% of the time. How do I remove it(hwC0D1 LSI ID 1040)?
[15:50] <almoxarife> atvr: could be, never started
[15:50] <melissa27> anybody has experience with pxe booting, live CD and persistance over NFS ?
[15:51] <almoxarife> atvr: this on the next line cat /var/log/syslog | pastebinit
[15:51] <atvr> BluesKaj: it says 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI technologies inc device 9647
[15:52] <timposey> seveas:  any suggestions on where to go from here?
[15:53] <atvr> almoxarife: same thing it says you are trying to send ans empty document
[15:54] <almoxarife> atvr: that one is not empty
[15:54] <jea> Can anyone recommend a way of backing up data over the internet to a home server?
[15:55] <atvr> almoxarife: that what`s that fucking laptop says XD i am out of luck
[15:55] <Yonotu> nickserv
[15:55] <oCean> atvr: again, control your language here, please
[15:55] <almoxarife> atvr: this on the next line cat(space)/var/log/syslog(space)|(space)pastebinit
[15:56] <almoxarife> atvr: the (space) is just that dead air spot
[15:56] <atvr> almoxarife: that is exacly what i have inserted
[15:57] <atvr> almoxarife: same thing it says you are trying to send ans empty document
[15:57] <almoxarife> http://paste.ubuntu.com/788919/ <-- I get that from the exact same
[15:58] <almoxarife> atvr: so, the mysteries go on
[15:58] <atvr> almoxarife: i know but maybe its because ubuntu never started
[15:58] <almoxarife> atvr: yeah, that's it
[16:00] <atvr> almoxarife: i think ive got the solution, i will hook the laptop on my jeep and have a little ride on the highway maybe it will work....
[16:01] <almoxarife> atvr: You are trying to send an empty document, exiting. <-- I get that too, when I don't have the spaces between 'cat' 'var/log/syslog'
[16:01] <atvr> almoxarife: ive put the space
[16:01] <antianno> hi folks! i was wondering, why isn't it possible to install both amd64 and i386 versions of SDL on a amd64 host (oneiric)? if i try to install, say, libsdl1.2debian-alsa:i386 explicitly, apt wants to remove the amd64-version :(
[16:02] <almoxarife> atvr: count them from the C of cat to the I of pastebinit
[16:02] <antianno> which is a problem for me since i have other (amd64) applications which also rely on SDL ...
[16:02] <atvr> almoxarife: count what
[16:02] <iGoogle> happy
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[16:02] <FloodBot1> iGoogle: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:03] <almoxarife> atvr: the spaces
[16:03] <atvr> almoxarife: there is 3 space
[16:03] <almoxarife> kinda cool
[16:03] <mneptok> antianno: it's probably libraries. install virtualbox-ose and then install a pure 32-bit Ubuntu into a VM.
[16:04] <mneptok> antianno: or, with some extra effort, you could sandbox the 32-bit stuff you need.
[16:05] <antianno> mneptok: well, the host is not exactly a powerful one, so i guess sandboxing would be nicer ... any hints?
[16:06] <mneptok> antianno: it's something i have done only a couple of times, and years ago. so my hint is, "go look at search results for a few hours." :/
[16:06] <mneptok> antianno: sorry i cannot be more helpful
[16:06] <mika__> hi all
[16:06] <mneptok> antianno: certainly chroot is going to be a tool you use.
[16:06] <mika__> happy new year
[16:07] <CriticalCore> hey hello ^
[16:07] <antianno> mneptok: no worries, i mean, the new year is coming, other things should be on our mind, right ;)
[16:07] <mneptok> antianno: right you are if you say so. :)
[16:08] <antianno> then no SNES gaming at the party tonight, i guess ...
[16:09] <mika__> I'm having problems with sound output - it just doesn't work and I wonder how to find out the problem. Any suggestions?
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> mika__  start by typing alsamixer in a terminal, make sure there's no MM
[16:09] <mneptok> antianno: not unless you get a 32 bit machine. i have yet to find any reliable, working SNES emu on AMD64. and i have tried.
[16:09]  * mneptok uses ZSNES on the 32-bit box downstairs
[16:10] <mika__> MonkeyDust: there's MM by "Speaker", what to do?
[16:10] <antianno> wait a minute, i could try with my laptop ... isn't the optimal solution, but if it works ... hmm!
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> mika__  MM means Mute
[16:10] <mneptok> antianno: laptop VGA > TV's DSUB
[16:11] <gijotom> hi
[16:11] <mneptok> antianno: you in the US? and if so, may i PM?
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> mika__  use the arrows to go to speaker and press M
[16:12] <mika__> MonkeyDust: done, still no sound... should I do anything additional?
[16:13] <kernelpanicker> I just discovered the windows key (to produce the ribbon) and then windows-tab produces numbers on the items in the ribbon... how do I get the same effect after I start searching for items in the ribbon?
[16:14] <antianno> mneptok: sry was afk shortly
[16:14] <antianno> mneptok: although i'm not in the US, you may PM me ..
[16:14] <Barnabas> kernelpanicker, I think you can just keep the windows button pressed
[16:15] <kernelpanicker> ok
[16:15] <Barnabas> now known as the unity button
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> mika__  no sound at all, or just in one application?
[16:16] <kernelpanicker> thanks... I wanted another name for that
[16:16] <kernelpanicker> I need some of those little stickers
[16:16] <mika__> MonkeyDust: no sound at all, should I restart the system to apply the mixer changes or anythig?
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> mika__  you could try it
[16:17] <kernelpanicker> what is the name of the panel that, in my case, pops out from the left when the unity button is pressed, and what is the differentiating name of the fly-out when the top icon is pressed, that lets you search by typing, and for that matter, what is the name of that icon?
[16:17] <kernelpanicker> sorry, lots of questions, but need to be able to ask questions about these things so need names ;)
[16:18]  * samsul is away: cari makan
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> kernelpanicker  the fly-out is called Dash
[16:18] <bazhang> samsul, disable that
[16:19] <kernelpanicker> MonkeyDust: ok
[16:19] <kernelpanicker> my only issue right now is that I have to mouse to items that appear in the dash
[16:19] <kernelpanicker> when I want some binding or picklist functionality to get them
[16:20] <kernelpanicker> for instance, I'll type firefox, and the browser icon appears below, and I have to use the arrow keys or mouse to launch it
[16:20] <finish06> i just added an unformated 1.5TB hdd to my computer, running 11.11 ubuntu, and  it does not show up in disk utility... any reasons??
[16:20] <kernelpanicker> hence my excitement when I accidentally discovered the superimposed numbers on the ribbon this morning when I used unity-tab
[16:20] <theadmin> kernelpanicker: Try launchy
[16:22]  * happynewyr 2012
[16:22] <kernelpanicker> theadmin: ok... but when I'm looking for a single feature, I always try to see if it's in what I've got, as I try to use what's baked into systems as much as possible
[16:22] <finish06> i just added an unformated 1.5TB hdd to my computer, running 11.11 ubuntu, and  it does not show up in disk utility... any reasons??
[16:23] <happynewyr> finish06: doesit show up in df -k
[16:24] <finish06> happynewyr, it does not. :(
[16:24] <happynewyr> does it show up in the bios?
[16:24] <finish06> think I maybe installed it wrong in the SATA ports then???  yeah, let me check the BIOS lol..
[16:25] <ithetux> ciao
[16:25] <happynewyr> ciao ithetux
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> list?
[16:25] <finish06> what happens if you changes sata ports while the computer is running?
[16:26] <happynewyr> finish06: you don't want to do that, ever. unless it is a hot swappable in which case it will not be SATA
[16:26] <slakcphil> finish06, could be bad
[16:26] <ithetux> è la prima volta che uso xchat, nei canali ci sono persone da tutto il mondo o solo del proprio stato?
[16:26] <slakcphil> corruption at least
[16:26] <finish06> oo... good to know.  let me turn off the computer and then switch them!!  :) lol.
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> !it| ithetux
[16:26] <happynewyr> ithetux: i don't speak italian
[16:26] <finish06> i dont'
[16:26] <finish06> i don't want corruption!!!'
[16:26] <slakcphil> finidh06, then don't work for wall street!
[16:26] <happynewyr> finish06: it will be more than corruption. switch off and ground yourself
[16:27] <cypher-neo> slakcphil, LOL!
[16:27] <finish06> be back in a moment. peace mates!
[16:27] <happynewyr> slakcphil: LOL
[16:27] <cypher-neo> slakcphil, Or any government at all!
[16:28] <slakcphil> :P
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> corruption is the glue for power :p
[16:28] <happynewyr> MonkeyDust: like xanthan gum :)
[16:29] <linuxearth> hi
[16:29] <linuxearth> how can i learn linux?
[16:29] <cypher-neo> linuxearth, Jump in. The waters great!
[16:30] <linuxearth> ok but how do i learn?
[16:30] <linuxearth> i have a single pc only, nothing for experiments
[16:30] <slakcphil> linuxearth, read the man pages for every command possible
[16:30] <linuxearth> should i learn commands?
[16:30] <linuxearth> or what?
[16:30] <eiriksvin> hi guys, I'm having alot of issues with my Netgear WNDA3100 USB Wifi on my amd64, I have tried a bunch of tuts on how to do it and searched blogs, can someone help me get this darn thing working... Ubuntu is NOT being nice
[16:30] <pangolin> !manual | linuxearth this should get you started with Ubuntu.
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> linuxearth  start here http://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/32474-a-windows-users-guide-to-linux.html
[16:30] <wildc4rd> chuck ubuntu on a box and play with it
[16:30] <linuxearth> ok
[16:30] <cypher-neo> linuxearth, Learn Terminal commands, and shell scripting.
[16:31] <slakcphil> open a terminal, type man ls then press enter
[16:31] <linuxearth> thanks guys many links
[16:31] <kernelpanicker> I went to a bookstore with comptuer magazines, and grabbed a magazine that has a live Ubuntu CD on it,
[16:31] <BluesKaj> c'mon guys , the terminalogy isn't familiar to him
[16:31] <_ikke_> How can I add / change an icon in the unity starter? I had a desktop icon to a wine program, but after I deleted it from the desktop, it got removed from the starter too. Now I only get the wine starter icon if I launch it from dash.
[16:31] <owenll> linuxearth: ask questions here and on the ubuntuforums, and read the ubuntu guides
[16:31] <slakcphil> man ls
[16:31] <kernelpanicker> then booted my computer from the live CD, choosing the 'Try Ubuntu' option
[16:31] <slakcphil> that's easy, then just read on how to ls a directory
[16:31] <BluesKaj> !linux | linuxearth
[16:31] <kernelpanicker> (this is if you don't have ubuntu installed on your computer)
[16:31] <linuxearth> pangolin: ty MonkeyDust: ty, owenll, cypher-neo: i just see many resources here
[16:31] <kernelpanicker> then go online and look up a little bash tutorial
[16:31] <cypher-neo> linuxearth, Also, every scripting language
[16:32] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: do you have linux installed?
[16:32] <cypher-neo> linuxearth, lol. Ignore that
[16:32] <linuxearth> scripting language?
[16:32] <cypher-neo> linuxearth, I mistyped.
[16:32] <linuxearth> ok
[16:32] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: do you have linux running on a computer?
[16:32] <slakcphil> !gdm | linuxearth
[16:33] <linuxearth> i am right now chatting from an office pc having linux
[16:33] <linuxearth> at home i have windows vista
[16:33] <cypher-neo> An office PC?
 Sorry, I don't know anything about gdm
[16:33] <linuxearth> yes
[16:33] <slakcphil> :P
[16:33] <cypher-neo> So you really can't make any changes to the programming, or the office will be pissed?
[16:33] <linuxearth> yes
[16:33] <slakcphil> !gnome | linuxearth
[16:33] <kernelpanicker> ok
[16:33] <linuxearth> just chating for 5-10 mins here
[16:34] <kernelpanicker> so, google 'learn bash' in a major search engine...
[16:34] <slakcphil> !kde | linuxearth
[16:34] <kernelpanicker> and look for a little tutorial
[16:34] <linuxearth> should i install at home ubuntu wiping out windows vista?
[16:34] <cypher-neo> In other words... you really can't do anything at the office. Go try to install Linux on your home computer and then experiment; for you, that will be the easiest way to learn.
[16:34] <slakcphil> !wubi | linuxearth
[16:34] <kernelpanicker> open a tutorial, move around the directories from the commandline
[16:34] <happynewyr> linuxearth: removing Vista and installing Ubuntu -> Great Idea
[16:34] <kernelpanicker> ubottu: I think he has linux installed
[16:34] <kernelpanicker> lol
[16:35] <kernelpanicker> got me
[16:35] <happynewyr> linuxearth: will save you so much trouble and heartache
[16:35] <linuxearth> happynewyr: if i would get stuck in the middle i would lose both - ubuntu as well as vista?
[16:35] <happynewyr> Well, you can use the LiveCD and if you likeit, install Ubuntu
[16:35] <happynewyr> linuxearth: or you can install it as a dual boot and then do away with Vista
[16:36] <linuxearth> live cd? that is to be downloaded then? from ubuntu website (I guess)
[16:36] <linuxearth> ok i should google
[16:36] <edbian> linuxearth, stuck in the middle?  If you get stuck in the middle start installing ubuntu again
[16:36] <linuxearth> what's one was telling of wubi?
[16:36] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: you can download it.  Do you know how to burn CD's from iso's on your system?
[16:36] <linuxearth> what's wubi?
[16:36] <linuxearth> ok
[16:36] <slakcphil> !wubi | linuxearth
[16:36] <linuxearth> ok
[16:36] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: but the wubi approach is better
[16:36] <MonkeyDust> linuxearth  forget wubi
[16:37] <edbian> linuxearth, You don't want wubi.  It simplifies the install by making it a thing you install INSIDE windows.  This has major technical limitiations
[16:37] <slakcphil> yeah wubi sux
[16:37] <linuxearth> ok
[16:37] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: however... on occasion a windows system will be hosed by wubi
[16:37] <linuxearth> so i should download the cd?
[16:37] <edbian> linuxearth, wubi makes debugging problems later much harder
[16:37] <edbian> linuxearth, or the DVD
[16:37] <edbian> linuxearth, whatev
[16:37] <slakcphil> you are still depending on the windoze filesystem and bootloader
[16:37] <linuxearth> should i burn that with nero after downloading?
[16:37] <happynewyr> linuxearth: download Ubuntu ISO from Ubuntu website, burn it on CD or thumb drive and restart.
[16:37] <edbian> linuxearth, you have to download an ISO burner too, there are instructions on the site
[16:37] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: I would probably go the CD route if you'd be ruined if you lost your window system
[16:37] <edbian> linuxearth, if nero can burn ISOs
[16:37] <happynewyr> linuxearth: Nero would do the trick nicely
[16:38] <linuxearth> ok
[16:38] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: but if it doesn't matter, use the wubi route
[16:38] <linuxearth> in vista nero is there
[16:38] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: I think learning about the CD's is a good way to go, anyway
[16:38] <happynewyr> linuxearth: then you're covered.. download ISO, burn using Nero and restart
[16:38] <edbian> kernelpanicker, linuxearth I strongly suggest not doing wubi
[16:38] <happynewyr> linuxearth: when u restart make sure the CD is in and you boot from CD
[16:38] <linuxearth> ok i start the download today, i guess (i don't know) that linux should be (?) better than vista?
[16:38] <eiriksvin> Can someone help me get my Netgear WNDA3100 working on my Ubuntu amd64 11.10? I have tried a bunch of tuts and searched blogs, but no go so far...
[16:38] <kernelpanicker> edbian, linuxearth, I'm in agreement
[16:38] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: I'd go the CD route
[16:39] <happynewyr> linuxearth: start now. :)
[16:39] <linuxearth> ok
[16:39] <happynewyr> just 700 MB should be quick
[16:39] <linuxearth> and from ubuntu.com
[16:39] <happynewyr> linuxearth: yep
[16:39] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: try to connect to your router with an ethernet line when booting from the CD's
[16:39] <cypher-neo> linuxearth, One thing you could do from the office computer is make yourself a bootable USB drive.
[16:39] <linuxearth> usb?
[16:39] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: because sometimes linux has a hard time connecting to wireless routers initially
[16:40] <linuxearth> 2 gb usb?
[16:40] <slakcphil> dude, check out linux.org it looks like a ddos
[16:40] <edbian> linuxearth, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[16:40] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: you can make a bootable thumb drive (usb drive) instead of the CD
[16:40] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: but the CD is simpler, IMHO
[16:40] <spoq> dont panick...
[16:40] <linuxearth> i guess i should go for a simple cd
[16:40] <spoq> kernelpanicker is nearby!
[16:40] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: how nearby?
[16:40] <spoq> very!
[16:40] <linuxearth> ??
[16:40] <kernelpanicker> oh lol
[16:40] <happynewyr> linuxearth: yep, get the CD
[16:41] <slakcphil> well it says bandwidth limit, did their isp run out of minutes?
[16:41] <cypher-neo> linuxearth, Once you've downloaded the ISO from the website, if you have a spare 2Gb usb stick, pop it into the computer and open the Terminal. Type "usb-creator-gtk" and follow the onscreen instructions. It will transfer the disc image to a USB flash drive so it works like a startup disc.
[16:41] <happynewyr> cypher-neo: he's on WIndows...
[16:41] <slakcphil> The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to the site owner reaching his/her bandwidth limit. Please try again later.
[16:41] <cypher-neo> happynewyr, He's on Ubuntu at the office
[16:41] <linuxearth> cypher-neo: i can try
[16:41] <slakcphil> linux.org ^^
[16:41] <Dynamit> then linux.org apache server does what it should when to big traffic
[16:42] <happynewyr> linuxearth: if you've doubts use the CD and Nero...
[16:42] <slakcphil> Dynamit, yeah? cool
[16:42] <linuxearth> which ubuntu i choose: 11.10 or 10.04 lts? at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[16:42] <cypher-neo> linuxearth, I find the USB drive nicer because it doesn't lock up your CD drive while you are previewing Ubuntu.
[16:42] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: if you have a spare computer, then you can talk to us on one while messing around with the CD on another
[16:42] <linuxearth> ok
[16:42] <rohitjha> command to list all connected hardware
[16:42] <slakcphil> Dynamit, yeah looks like 2.1 mod_bwlimited
[16:42] <_ikke_> How do I create a new unity launcher?
[16:42] <linuxearth> but i choose : 11.10 or 10.04 at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download to start the download?
[16:42] <Kiten> linuxearth, personally i prefer 10.04 lts
[16:43] <cypher-neo> linuxearth, 11.10 is the current version. 10.04 is a long term supported version. Both are stable and usable.
[16:43] <Dynamit> still it do what it should do
[16:43] <linuxearth> anyone?
[16:43] <owenll> rohitjha:  lshw
[16:43] <Kiten> but you can use 11.10 if you want you can see the difference on ubuntu's site
[16:43] <happynewyr> linuxearth: go with 10.04
[16:43] <Dynamit> to protect it self
[16:43] <linuxearth> ok then 10.04 since longer support?
[16:43] <edbian> linuxearth, cypher-neo just answered you
[16:43] <linuxearth> ok
[16:43] <happynewyr> linuxearth: 10.04 is long term support...
[16:43] <linuxearth> i come back tomarrow after install from home pc?
[16:44] <happynewyr> linuxearth: once you install and you like you can always try 11.10
[16:44] <eiriksvin> Can someone help me get my Netgear WNDA3100 working on my Ubuntu amd64 11.10? I have tried a bunch of tuts and searched blogs, but no go so far...
[16:44] <edbian> linuxearth, what's going to take so long?  come back in 40 min when it's done
[16:44] <linuxearth> nope but i have to install it in home pc
[16:44] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: also, it's amazing how a live ubuntu CD will suddenly resurrect an old assumed dead windows machine
[16:44] <happynewyr> linuxearth: come back when or during your install if you need help
[16:44] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: people think the computer is dead, when of course it's just windows that's dead
[16:44] <linuxearth> ok
[16:44] <Kiten> linuxearth, you can see what they look like on google images
[16:44] <slakcphil> linuxearth, i must say, if you want to learn "linux" you should get an old stable pentium 4 with know hardware and just play with distros that have fundamental differences. like centos/fedora suse debian/ubuntu slackware etc.
[16:44] <kernelpanicker> so you can get another computer for free
[16:44] <linuxearth> but i guess first, i should read the installation instructions also
[16:44] <slakcphil> known good hardware^^
[16:44] <cypher-neo> eiriksvin, What's not working?
[16:44] <kernelpanicker> where I live, there are actually dozens of computers sitting at the city dump
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> kernelpanicker  to most people, computer == windows
[16:45] <edbian> eiriksvin, googling
[16:45] <eiriksvin> I run Windows Wireless Drivers after installing correctly. A window comes up and I click Add new driver/device. I then choose the appropriate .inf file. Immidiately, a window appears showing "MODULE COULD NOT BE LOADED, ERROR: [BLANK]"
[16:45] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: which can be turned on, booted from a cd, have ubuntu installed, and voila
[16:45] <cypher-neo> kernelpanicker, Wish i had a dump like that!!
[16:45] <kernelpanicker> cypher-neo: yeah... they get mad when you grab one, though...
[16:45] <linuxearth> slakcphi: i have started the download of ubuntu only? you are saying for more other distros too?
[16:45] <slakcphil> linuxearth check out the differences in rc.d and init.d and all that good stuff
[16:45] <edbian> eiriksvin, what is the chipset of this card?
[16:45] <happynewyr> linuxearth: start with Ubuntu
[16:45] <edbian> eiriksvin, I'll keep in mind that you tried to use ndiswrapper
[16:45] <linuxearth> what's rc.d?
[16:45] <kernelpanicker> cypher-neo: because they have some deal with a recycling company or something
[16:45] <eiriksvin> wnda3100v2
[16:46] <happynewyr> once you settle down in it, you can explore the other distros
[16:46] <linuxearth> slakcphil: what's rc.d and what init.d?
[16:46] <kernelpanicker> cypher-neo: so you park next to it, dump some stuff, and pop an old dell or whatever into your car
[16:46] <slakcphil> linuxearth wikipedia and man pages are your friend
[16:46] <edbian> linuxearth, a folder containing scripts that run on the local machine at boot tie
[16:46] <linuxearth> ok
[16:46] <cypher-neo> kernelpanicker, I would totally do that!
[16:46] <linuxearth> i have started the ubuntu download
[16:46] <edbian> linuxearth, init.d is a folder of other scripts that run at boot time
[16:46] <kernelpanicker> cypher-neo: the recycling companies get rare metals etc from the hard drive platters
[16:46] <eiriksvin> Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0846:9011 NetGear, Inc. WNDA3100(v2) 802.11n [Broadcom BCM4323]
[16:46] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: yahoo
[16:46] <happynewyr> linuxearth: just out of curioisity what is themachine you're installing this
[16:46] <linuxearth> ok
[16:46] <edbian> linuxearth, why are you asking about this folders?
[16:46] <edbian> eiriksvin, ok hang on
[16:47] <slakcphil> edbian because i mentioned them
[16:47] <spoq> hi edbian, #debian is where you need to go.
[16:47] <edbian> slakcphil, oh :P
[16:47] <cypher-neo> eiriksvin, What's wrong with using the default Ubuntu network setup?
[16:47] <happynewyr> linuxearth: some hardware can give you trouble :) Broadcom for instance
[16:47] <edbian> spoq, stop that! :P
[16:47] <spoq> :D
[16:47] <edbian> eiriksvin, sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[16:47] <linuxearth> would it detect the printer, i guess yes
[16:47] <happynewyr> may printers are auto detected and installed
[16:47] <happynewyr> *many
[16:48] <linuxearth> ok
[16:48] <kernelpanicker> linuxearth: well, today you're starting linux, and today I'm starting java
[16:48] <linuxearth> ok
[16:48] <linuxearth> and today the year is ending!!
[16:48] <happynewyr> kernelpanicker: cool... Python would be an easier language to learn
[16:48] <eiriksvin> edbian trying it now
[16:48] <happynewyr> linuxearth: in some places it already has ended
[16:48] <edbian> eiriksvin, are you sure about your device chipset?  4323 ?
[16:48] <slakcphil> linuxearth, i was just saying that most linux distros are diff from each other, but if you learn the redhat/centos/fedora and debian/ubuntu you will do well since the two have very diff ways of doing everything.
[16:49] <linuxearth> yes
[16:49] <eiriksvin> i just lsusb it
[16:49] <eiriksvin> eiriksvin@Eiriks-Linux:~$ lsusb
[16:49] <eiriksvin> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[16:49] <eiriksvin> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[16:49] <eiriksvin> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 050d:945a Belkin Components
[16:49] <eiriksvin> Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0846:9011 NetGear, Inc. WNDA3100(v2) 802.11n [Broadcom BCM4323]
[16:49] <FloodBot1> eiriksvin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:49] <eiriksvin> oops sorry
[16:49] <linuxearth> slakcphil: but i should start with ubuntu
[16:49] <linuxearth> ??
[16:49] <slakcphil> linuxearth like where they put config files and such, but for the most part the same
[16:49] <kernelpanicker> happynewyr: you're right, but have to do java for work
[16:49] <edbian> eiriksvin, oh wait, this is a USB device?
[16:49] <happynewyr> linuxearth: Ubuntu is your best transition linux
[16:50] <eiriksvin> yeah
[16:50] <slakcphil> linuxearth definately, it has the best community
[16:50] <edbian> eiriksvin, this site says that device isn't supported yet: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[16:50] <happynewyr> kernelpanicker: Java is a pain... and I was among the first 200 java developers globally
[16:50] <eiriksvin> is that Linksys dual band supported?
[16:50] <edbian> eiriksvin, I have no idea?
[16:50] <kernelpanicker> happynewyr: holy smokes
[16:50] <kernelpanicker> happynewyr: first 200!
[16:51] <kernelpanicker> happynewyr: wow
[16:51] <happynewyr> yep, way back in 1996
[16:51] <happynewyr> when java was not yet 1.0
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> when we was young and beautiful
[16:51] <kernelpanicker> happynewyr: well, I was learning lisp, but it's got to be java for now for work
[16:52] <kernelpanicker> I am middle aged and partially beautiful
[16:52] <happynewyr> kernelpanicker: Java is good from an Object Oriented Language perspective
[16:52] <happynewyr> kernelpanicker: partially?
[16:52] <kernelpanicker> happynewyr: yes, I have no qualms learning it
[16:52] <spoq> do you still use the original linux?
[16:52] <mebigfatguy_> (from the feet down)
[16:52] <kernelpanicker> happynewyr: yes, my left elbow is still beautiful
[16:52] <happynewyr> kernelpanicker: it's just too complicated now
[16:53] <reloaded> hai Guys !! I have a Bandluxe usb sim modem , when I connect the modem in 11.10 It is automaticaly dectecting the SIM service and I can setup my plan in that ! But when I connected the modem in 10.04 it will not act as the 11.10 configuration How to get connect the modem in 10.04
[16:53] <kernelpanicker> happynewyr: yeah... I think that has something to do with why people make money with it... lol... fixing problems from the complexity
[16:53] <eiriksvin> grr ubuntu can be so frustrating sometimes, the top of the market is Netgear, why wouldn't they focus on getting support for what people are going to buy
[16:53] <kernelpanicker> happynewyr: at any rate, there is no avoiding it for me now
[16:53] <happynewyr> kernelpanicker: Java is good for some stuff, but ppl use it for everything and that sucks
[16:54] <kernelpanicker> happynewyr: yeah... my strategy is to try to learn as many languages as I can
[16:54] <happynewyr> kernelpanicker: and then Oracle comes along to screw with the Sun implementation
[16:54] <slakcphil> happynewyr, :P
[16:54] <kernelpanicker> happynewyr: yeah
[16:54] <happynewyr> kernelpanicker: tried haxe?
[16:54] <kernelpanicker> happynewyr: nope
[16:54] <happynewyr> promising as a language
[16:54] <kernelpanicker> happynewyr: if I go a new language route, it will be one of the lisp variants
[16:55] <reloaded> hai Guys !! I have a Bandluxe usb sim modem , when I connect the modem in 11.10 It is automaticaly dectecting the SIM service and I can setup my plan in that ! But when I connected the modem in 10.04 it will not act as the 11.10 configuration How to get connect the modem in 10.04
[16:55] <happynewyr> kernelpanicker: love Lips so much?
[16:55] <happynewyr> *lisp
[16:55] <anmar`> 11:38 *** behanw JOIN
[16:55] <LosFrijoles> is it considered bad practice for me to use the same ssh keys for both my laptop and desktop or should they have different keys?
[16:55] <anmar`> LosFrijoles: not really... just keep your private key private.
[16:56] <happynewyr> reloaded: maybe the driver is not in the 10.04 repos
[16:56] <kernelpanicker> happynewyr: looking at teh HaXe site
[16:56] <kernelpanicker> happynewyr: I love the Lips
[16:56] <happynewyr> kernelpanicker: :)
[16:56] <LosFrijoles> anmar`: i did it to make my computers look the same when logging in to my website so I just wanted to make sure that wasn't going to cause problems. thx
[16:56] <slakcphil> LosFrijoles, i think it is bad practice to use keys unless scripting, especially on portables like laptops and desktops
[16:57] <kernelpanicker> well... going to my java learning now... I'll check in periodically
[16:57] <happynewyr> alright folks, gotta run now...
[16:57] <slakcphil> not to start a flamefest but...
[16:57] <kernelpanicker> slakcphil: oh no
[16:57]  * happynewyr 2012to all
[16:57] <slakcphil> :P
[16:57] <happynewyr> ok, now am waiting to see slakcphil's flame war
[16:57] <slakcphil> kernelpanicker, where do you do your learning?
[16:57] <reloaded> happynewyr, I have windows drivers  for the modem ,is that any way I can use it for using the modem in  10.04
[16:58] <happynewyr> reloaded: ndiswrapper? not sure really...
[16:58] <slakcphil> happynewyr, i also think that gnome and unity are non-linuxish compared to kde!
[16:58]  * happynewyr reminds slakcphil about the flamewar
[16:58] <slakcphil> :P
[16:58] <happynewyr> I hate Unity!
[16:58] <happynewyr> miss the Gnome 2.0
[16:59] <reloaded_> happynewyr, I have windows drivers  for the modem ,is there any way I can use it for using the modem in  10.04
[16:59] <sburwood1> Happy New Year ... a little early, I admit
[16:59] <happynewyr> moved safely to xfce becase KDE is bad as well
[16:59] <slakcphil> yeah, iwill miss the old ubuntu splash boot screens
[16:59] <slakcphil> the one with the big orange bar
[16:59] <happynewyr> reloaded_: not sure without the chipset etc
[16:59] <theadmin> happynewyr: Don't you find XFCE even more powerful and functional than Gnome2?
[16:59] <happynewyr> what does lspci tell you?
[17:00] <happynewyr> I love xfce... works beautifully on my netbook
[17:00] <happynewyr> and a couple of my friends are contributors. so loyalty FTW
[17:00] <anmar`> 11:59 <reloaded_> happynewyr, I have windows drivers  for the modem ,is there any way I can use it for using the modem in  10.04
[17:00] <atari314> Hello, anyone knows if is it possible to run some program parallel to tty login (CLI login)? (like leave X loading while logging the user)
[17:00] <theadmin> happynewyr: May I pm you?
[17:01] <happynewyr> theadmin: sure
[17:01] <slakcphil> i like salix, the slackware based lightweight system with the ratpoison wm, it works great in a vm with win7 host and limited ram
[17:01] <eiriksvin> Where's the Ubuntu 11.10 USB Wifi adapters supported list?
[17:01] <sburwood1> I want to convert some flv files into mp3 format.  I have Ubuntu 11.10. What applications are available to do that?
[17:01] <eiriksvin> so I can go down to Walmart and trade this crap in
[17:01] <happynewyr> sburwood1: ffmpeg
[17:01] <Stanley00> Happy new year!!!
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[17:02] <FloodBot1> slakcphil: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:02] <sburwood1> happynewyr: That can convert from video into audio?
[17:03] <spoq> loool
[17:04] <eiriksvin> Can someone tell me where the Ubuntu 11.10 USB Wifi adapters supported list?
[17:05] <pksadiq> !wifi | eiriksvin
[17:06] <reloaded_> happynewyr, what is the name of software that used to connect the mobile broadband in 11.10
[17:06] <Oer> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[17:06] <who_me> eiriksvin: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/category/WIRELESS
[17:07] <linuxearth> thanks guys, i come tomarrow after install
[17:08] <reloaded_> happynewyr, what is the name of software that used to connect the mobile broadband in 11.10
[17:08] <reloaded_>  what is the name of software that used to connect the mobile broadband in 11.10
[17:09] <kernelpanicker> how do I show the desktop in unity (keybinding)?
[17:09] <Seveas> reloaded_, network-manager
[17:10] <eiriksvin> Broadcom BCM4323 not supported... grrr
[17:10] <Seveas> kernelpanicker, [windows key] + d I believe
[17:10] <MonkeyDust> !bcm| eiriksvin
[17:10] <eiriksvin> I'm goiing back and trying the linksys
[17:11] <happynewyr> eiriksvin: broadcom's fault
[17:11] <toad_bottle> while applying security upgrades via synpatic to my ubuntu 10.04, my computer froze and I had to do a forced shutdown. Now I cant boot at all. It always stops at the login screen with the message, "The configuration defaults for GNOME Power Manager have not been installed correctly". And I wouldn't even be able to move my mouse on the login prompt. keys wont work either. When I tried to get into recovery mode, it stops at Applyin
[17:12] <shadhin> hi frnz
[17:12] <happynewyr> toad_bottle: that's a bad scene
[17:12] <toad_bottle> happynewyr: what do u recommend i do?
[17:12] <happynewyr> can you see if you can open a terminal?
[17:13] <shadhin> Happy new year frndz
[17:13] <happynewyr> ctrl alt f1
[17:13] <toad_bottle> nope
[17:13] <toad_bottle> i tried that
[17:13] <zCoder> hi
[17:13] <MonkeyDust> toad_bottle  i've had, too, i had to connect via ssh, backup and reinstall
[17:13] <zCoder>   what does    ../   ./   /   mean?
[17:13] <zCoder> what represents what dir?
[17:13] <fubbi> ../ = one folder up
[17:13] <MonkeyDust> zCoder  / is root,
[17:14] <happynewyr> ./ is current dir
[17:14] <joed_> hello
[17:14] <toad_bottle> MonkeyDust: how can i connect via ssh if I cant' even boot ubuntu normally?
[17:14] <joed_> can anyone help me with synergy?
[17:14] <zCoder> ? / root of the current dir  or overall root?
[17:14] <happynewyr> toad_bottle: can you ping it? maybe it does boot but Gnome is dead
[17:14] <toad_bottle> would openssh be running
[17:14] <happynewyr> overall root is /
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> toad_bottle  forgot to mention, i have more than 1 pc, did over the local network
[17:15] <zCoder> is there a referance to this on the net .. what would i look for
[17:15] <happynewyr> toad_bottle: if X is dying, then ssh would run
[17:15] <zCoder> dir structure isnt it
[17:15] <happynewyr> zCoder... that is the linux directory structure
[17:15] <joed_> can anyone help with configuring synergy?
[17:15] <happynewyr> zCoder: it is different slightly from the way Windows does it
[17:15] <Sidewinder1> zCoder, Usually root is in /..
[17:15] <toad_bottle> ic
[17:16] <toad_bottle> so I should just boot my computer, then use another computer to ssh into it
[17:16] <zCoder> im actually asking more toward programming
[17:16] <happynewyr> toad_bottle: worth trying
[17:16] <zCoder> im in public_html     in there it might be / considered root
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> toad_bottle  try booting from a live cd or thumdrive, backup from there and reinstamm
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> ll
[17:17] <happynewyr> zCoder: / is the root of the system, Apache will have a different root
[17:17] <usuario> jnç
[17:17] <happynewyr> and Apache's root will be defined in the config file
[17:17] <owenll> toad_bottle: this is out there http://paste.ubuntu.com/788988/
[17:17] <zCoder> right.. but apaches root will also be accessed by /
[17:17] <zCoder> because i dont have permissions to go further
[17:17] <Sidewinder1> zCoder, When you say public, or /pub, that's usually associated with an FTP Server..
[17:17] <usuario> becouse
[17:17] <toad_bottle> owenll: unfortunately, i tried booting into recovery mode, but it gets stuck halfway through
[17:18] <zCoder> alright so whats ./  and ../   ?
[17:18] <zCoder> again
[17:19] <owenll> toad_bottle: ok sorry :-/
[17:19] <yumbo> zCoder, ./ is the current directory you're in
[17:19] <rumpe1> zCoder, . = current folder, .. = previous folder
[17:19] <zCoder> hmm previous?
[17:20] <zCoder> you mean the one the current one resides in?
[17:20] <happynewyr> zCoder: parent
[17:20] <toad_bottle> no worries
[17:20] <zCoder> ahh
[17:20] <rumpe1> zCoder, yes
[17:20] <zCoder> alright, thanks guys.
[17:20] <happynewyr> zCoder: take care
[17:21] <zCoder> bye
[17:22] <toad_bottle> i dont really have much files saved yet. mostly programs that are installed. Might just mount my filesystem and look at my bash_history to see what programs/dependencies/libraries i have to install and how i configured them. then do a clean install again
[17:23] <toad_bottle> if ssh from another machine doesnt work
[17:23] <happynewyr> toad_bottle: if you don't have much data to lose, then reinstall Ubuntu on a diff partition
[17:24] <toad_bottle> happynewyr: what not just reinstall it on the same partition?
[17:24] <toad_bottle> why*
[17:24] <happynewyr> toad_bottle: you can if you don't have any data/programs to lose
[17:25] <happynewyr> toad_bottle: if your mbr or grub is broken, then you could probably fix it
[17:25] <toad_bottle> how do i fix it?
[17:25] <toad_bottle> or how do i know whether its broken
[17:26] <happynewyr> toad_bottle: do you see the grub menu?
[17:26] <cypher-neo> Is there any reason why aptitude was removed from 11.10?
[17:26] <toad_bottle> 4 things
[17:26] <toad_bottle> normal, recovery, memory test, and another memory test
[17:26] <toad_bottle> and i can do ctrl-c to go to command line
[17:26] <happynewyr> cypher-neo: Canonical likes to mess with it's users' mind
[17:26] <toad_bottle> but the command line is not bash complete
[17:26] <happynewyr> toad_bottle: ok, so it was the first install
[17:27] <toad_bottle> its very limited
[17:27] <toad_bottle> yep
[17:27] <toad_bottle> its the first install
[17:27] <FloodBot1> toad_bottle: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:27] <happynewyr> toad_bottle: and if you don't have too much data, just go ahead and reinstall
[17:27] <cypher-neo> happynewyr, lol. I just reinstalled it, cause I modded my .bashrc file with an aptitude command, and I realized when I tried to run it that omfg, it's not installed!
[17:27] <happynewyr> on the same partition if you want to
[17:27] <toad_bottle> ok, i'll just reinstall it then :(
[17:28] <toad_bottle> thanks
[17:28] <cypher-neo> happynewyr, I just wanted to make sure I wouldn't break something else by installing it.
[17:28] <toad_bottle> for the tips
[17:28] <happynewyr> toad_bottle: you're welcome
[17:28] <happynewyr> cypher-neo: you can't break too much
[17:28] <happynewyr> cypher-neo: besides you learn when you break
[17:28] <happynewyr> :)
[17:28] <cypher-neo> happynewyr, You'd be surprised!!
[17:29] <cypher-neo> happynewyr, But, you're right, I do learn things when I break them.
[17:30] <happynewyr> cypher-neo: if I am even here and able to help people, it's because I've broken everything possible in my Ubuntu systems
[17:30] <cypher-neo> lolol!
[17:30] <happynewyr> cypher-neo: I've mucked about quite a bit... short of compiling my own kernel, i''ve done pretty much everything else
[17:31] <cypher-neo> happynewyr, Me too. I actually enjoy breaking things. It's only a pain in the butt when you break something and then have to back up 50+Gigs to make sure you don't lose anything.
[17:31] <Kiten> happynewyr, yeah same hear thats really the only thing i haven't done yet
[17:31] <happynewyr> yeah, I much about in my VMs quite a bit
[17:32] <Kiten> yeah i just muck around in arch in virtual box if i want to break something
[17:32] <happynewyr> virtual box? i prefer openvz
[17:32] <Kiten> i've never used openvz much less heard of it
[17:33] <Kiten> i just use virtual box because thats what i've always used
[17:33] <happynewyr> i've got a b*tch system running proxmox...
[17:33] <Kiten> oh and qemu
[17:33] <lordjj> Happy New Year's Ubuntu people
[17:33] <Kiten> happy new years
[17:34] <happynewyr> let me put it this way Kiten... openvz is not GUI based
[17:34] <happynewyr> :)
[17:34] <compdoc> virtualbox is best for running windows if you need to run it on your desktop, but I like qemu-kvm for servers
[17:35] <happynewyr> compdoc: proxmox is a very good barebones installer if you want to run a virtualized environment
[17:35] <Kiten> happynewyr, neither is qemu although gui's do exist for it
[17:35] <compdoc> happynewyr, I'll take your word for it
[17:36] <Akkan`> can someone tell me how to remove logs on root
[17:36] <happynewyr> alright peeps, gotta run.
[17:36] <Akkan`> ?
[17:36] <happynewyr> ta!
[17:36] <Kiten> happynewyr, happy new years ;p
[17:36] <Akkan`> can someone tell me how to remove logs on root ?
[17:37] <Kiten> !repeat | Akkan`
[17:37] <KoltMaesta> Hi! Approximately a week after I upgraded to 11.10 my wifi sometimes keeps connecting and nothing happens. The network is still ok, I just wont connect, and it takes forever. Most of the time it works great. What can cause this annoying issue?
[17:37] <Kiten> why do you need to remove logs
[17:37] <Akkan`> i just wanna remove
[17:37] <Akkan`> do you know the command or no ?
[17:38] <Kiten> well there isn't any real command but if you want to they are in /etc/ somewhere knock your self out
[17:38] <Kiten> just becareful deleting things in /etc/
[17:38] <DrPenguin> arent logs in /var/log and not in /etc?
[17:38] <Seveas> DrPenguin, they are
[17:38] <Kiten> yeah the normal system logs
[17:39] <Kiten> wifi the ones in /etc/ mostly deal with wifi related junk
[17:39] <Seveas> Akkan`, logs live in /var/log, they can be removed with 'sudo rm filename.here'. Don't remove any directories, just files.
[17:39] <DrPenguin> I never would of figured there would be logs in /etc.. good to know
[17:39] <Akkan`> Seveas ty
[17:39] <Seveas> DrPenguin, there are no logs in /etc
[17:39] <DrPenguin> Seveas: Kiten just said some wifi ones live in etc
[17:40] <Seveas> DrPenguin, well, that's not true :)
[17:40] <dury> hi there channel :)
[17:40] <Seveas> hi there dury
[17:40] <dury> Happy New Year :)
[17:40] <Kiten> DrPenguin, yeah my bad you guys are on a different distro :P
[17:40] <Kiten> arch has logs in /etc/
[17:40] <dury> Seveas: how do u doing there?
[17:41] <DrPenguin> Kiten: @_@ WHA? arch puts logs in /etc? I will DEFINITELY need to look at that when I get my laptop back..
[17:41] <Seveas> dury, I'm stil in 2011, no new year yet for me :)
[17:41] <KoltMaesta> Hi! Approximately a week after I upgraded to 11.10 my wifi sometimes keeps connecting and nothing happens. The network is still ok, I just wont connect, and it takes forever. Most of the time it works great. What can cause this annoying issue?
[17:41] <dury> Seveas: where are you located, then?
[17:41] <_ikke_> Is it me, or is the Ubuntu softwarecentrum in 11.10 very slow?
[17:41] <Kiten> DrPenguin, well my arch might be kinda screwy ;p
[17:42] <Seveas> KoltMaesta, look at /var/log/syslog, all changes to wifi state are logged there
[17:42] <DrPenguin> Kiten: I think so..
[17:42] <Seveas> dury, europe
[17:42] <dury> Seveas: me too
[17:42] <Seveas> then it's still 2011 for you :)
[17:42] <dury> Seveas: but where abouts?
[17:42] <chrislsp> Hello, anyone used before Remastersys or Reconstructor for creating your own LiveCD with preinstalled programs,settings etc ?
[17:43] <Seveas> !anyone | chrislsp
[17:44] <dury> what's /var/log/syslog for, then?
[17:44] <Seveas> dury, system logs
[17:44] <dury> Seveas: yeah
[17:44] <windwhinny> log system logs
[17:44] <chrislsp> Does ANYBODY have so much little brain to understand that i need an opinion?
[17:44] <KoltMaesta> Seveas: There are a lot of "... [    1.748118] [Firmware Bug]: ACPI: BIOS _OSI(Linux) query ignored" lines
[17:44] <dury> what they do Seveas
[17:45] <DrPenguin> chrislsp: and do you not have a big enough brain to understand that we dont give opinions based on what we echoed you from the bot?
[17:45] <usuario> o
[17:45] <Seveas> KoltMaesta, that has nothing to do with wifi fortunately. You're looking for lines that contain NetworkManager
[17:45] <usuario> n
[17:45] <usuario>  
[17:46] <taylor> hey
[17:46] <Seveas> hello taylor
[17:46] <chrislsp> I just want an opinion based on your experience
[17:46] <dury> what's system log do, then?
[17:46] <taylor> ok so i got a question im sure somebody can answer pretty quick
[17:46] <Seveas> dury, look at the file and you'll see
[17:47] <greedo> what is the default HTTP authentication for icecast?
[17:47] <chrislsp> why are there so many "rules" and "must behave that way" to get a simple answer to a simple question?
[17:48] <spoq> yea
[17:48] <spoq> dont obey the rules
[17:48] <spoq> break `em !
[17:48] <hiexpo> hi guys i am having a problem with postgres when i am setting it up and enter this command /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster -D /usr/local/pgsql/data >logfile 2>&1 & i get  -su: cannot create logfile: Permission denied what am i doing wrong
[17:48] <taylor> when i put my exe file into terminal and write wine behind it and everything and hit enter, 90 percent of the time it says it cannot find the exe file either know the pathway is correct. what can i do to fix this??
[17:48] <spoq> tried running in root?
[17:49] <taylor> no, whats that?
[17:49] <DrPenguin> taylor: is the path wrong taylor? where is the exe in respect to your current directory
[17:49] <Seveas> taylor, you need to put 'wine ' *before* the path to the exe file. Wine is the thing you run, the exe file is an argument
[17:49] <taylor> yeah i know you get rid of the 's and put wine and a space
[17:49] <taylor> before
[17:49] <dury> it shows those lines when you open the Terminal or no, Seveas?
[17:50] <taylor> the file is exactly where it should be in the directory
[17:50] <DrPenguin> taylor: thats not what I asked
[17:50] <Seveas> taylor, and you also used correct capitalization? e.g. NOTEPAD.exe isn't the same as notepad.exe
[17:51] <taylor> didnt have to, i learned you can drag the .exe file into the terminal and it puts it there for you, i have installed quite a few programms this way, but half the time it cannot find the exe, which is why i am confused
[17:51] <taylor> im very new to ubuntu
[17:52] <DrPenguin> taylor: that really doesnt make sense.. dragging a file into terminal should complete its absolute path.. have you just tried to manually type in its absolute path?
[17:52] <Seveas> are you dragging it from the Desktop?
[17:52] <windwhinny> if the exe file is in the current directory, try to put "./" before the filename, like "./notepad.exe"
[17:53] <taylor> let me try, and i have tried to drag it from the desk top and from the file were it is
[17:53] <Seveas> when it fails, make a screenshot that also shows the file that you dragged. That'll help is see what's going wrong.
[17:54] <taylor> k
[17:59] <gmachine_24> I feel like a fool but I have an Ubuntu install and either the password file has been corrupted or I actually forgot the password. Is there anything I can do?
[17:59] <cypher-neo> gmachine_24, Yeah, one sec
[17:59] <Seveas> yes, you can boot into recovery mode
[17:59] <Seveas> and reset the passwords
[17:59] <crux00> Soooo... I had a botched upgrade to 11.10, and I've mostly made it work. But now every package is listed twice in aptitude. Is there a fix for that?
[18:00] <gmachine_24> Seveas, I'm assuming I need no password to do that?
[18:00] <cypher-neo> gmachine_24, Here's one method to reset your Ubuntu password.
[18:00] <Seveas> gmachine_24, correct, recover mode should let you do this without password
[18:00] <Seveas> crux00, how the hell did that happen? :)
[18:00] <jiohdi> what is the point of having a password if it is that easy to defeat?
[18:00] <zer0rez> my google-foo is failing, any links or info on how to install 11.10 onto a machine w/ a 4GB SSD(old eeePC 900a)
[18:01] <gmachine_24> cypher-neo, I am listening
[18:01] <Seveas> jiohdi, this requires physical access to the machine. Physical access means you're screwed anyway
[18:01] <crux00> Seavas: some video driver bug / something to do with hibernate, plus me starting the upgrade from a session that had resumed from hibernation [18:01] <Seveas> jiohdi, also, this doesn't decrypt encrypted homedirs. Those are gone for good
[18:02] <Seveas> crux00, can you run this for me and pastebin the output: dpkg -l | cat; dpkg --get-selections
[18:02] <jiohdi> Seveas, if you set them as encrypted right?
[18:02] <Seveas> jiohdi, correct
[18:02] <gmachine_24> thanks for your help. I'll research resetting passwords..... HNY everyone
[18:03] <spao> hgkj
[18:03] <Seveas> spao, try english :)
[18:03] <MN--> hey anyone know a channel to discuss computer components?
[18:03] <cypher-neo> gmachine_24, #1 - Boot from a Live CD. #2 - Mount the computer hard drive. When the Nautilus window pops up, close it. #3 - Open Terminal. Type "gksudo nautilus" #4 - Go to the mounted drive and find the /etc/ directory. #5 - Scroll past all the directories until you get to the shadow text file. Create a .bak of this file, just in case. #6 - Edit the shadow file in gedit. #7 - Scroll down to the username in question and replace
[18:03] <cypher-neo> the encrypted password with "U6aMy0wojraho"
[18:03] <crux00> Seveas: here ya go! http://paste.ubuntu.com/789020/
[18:04] <Seveas> cypher-neo, I've scripted that up in the past: https://raw.github.com/seveas/hacks/master/reset_passwords
[18:04] <DrPenguin> MN--: we arent a hub for you to find where to go.. but there should be a command your irc client can do to help you find it
[18:04] <cypher-neo> That will completely reset the password... and he left
[18:04] <cypher-neo> Seveas, Grr! he says he's listening... so i start typing. And he leaves before I press Enter!
[18:04] <Seveas> crux00, ok, at least apt doesn't see them twice, must be an aptitude cache
[18:05] <edbian> MN--, #hardware
[18:05] <edbian> MN--, or you can just PM me
[18:05] <Seveas> crux00, try rm ~/.aptitude/cache
[18:05] <crux00> Seveas: Aha, and that's an easy rm away. Much easier to fix than the whole stupid /var/run business.
[18:06] <Seveas> crux00, ah, /run vs /var/run, that's a nice snafu :)
[18:06] <edbian> Seveas, aptitude  and apt-get cache are in /etc/apt/  ?
[18:06] <taylor> ok how do i show you the pics
[18:06] <Aliv3> how update to 12.04
[18:06] <MN--> edbian thanks
[18:06] <Seveas> taylor, upload them to imagebin.com
[18:06] <taylor> ok
[18:06] <cypher-neo> Aliv3, Check out the topic in #ubuntu+1
[18:06] <Aliv3> ty
[18:06] <Seveas> edbian, aptitude has its own cache in ~/.aptitude. The general apt cache is in /var/cache/apt and /var/lib/apt
[18:06] <urlin2u> Aliv3, 12.04 is not released yet.
[18:07] <Seveas> oi LjL, your monkey quit
[18:07] <edbian> Seveas, ahh, yes
[18:07] <crux00> Seveas: since you're being A+++ helpful would ask questions again -- aptitude is having another issue as well, namely that it wants to remove pretty much everything (libc6 and all deps) to deal with some conflict or another. Is there an easy way to get to the bottom of that one?
[18:08] <cypher-neo> crux00, I prefer using Ubuntu Tweak for things like that, imho.
[18:08] <Seveas> crux00, try apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade. If they complain, pastebin output
[18:08] <Seveas> cypher-neo, neh, his system is in a bit of a bodged state. Best to stick to low level tools :)
[18:08] <yumbo> crux00, when something wants libc6 removed you should be very careful (I actually got it removed once, couldnt execute any command anymore)
[18:09] <cypher-neo> Seveas, Ahh, in that case, never mind what I said crux00
[18:09] <crux00> "a bit" -- hah. ;} Well, it's much better now, so maybe it qualifies as "a bit".
[18:09] <Seveas> yeah, you don't really want to remove libc6
[18:09] <yumbo> crux00, what does "sudo apt-get install -f" give?
[18:09] <Seveas> crux00, can you also try these, just so I know your system is at least sorta healthy: dpkg --configure -a ; apt-get -f install
[18:10] <crux00> Interestingly, aptitude still shows things twice; and one of the libc6 is marked "installed" and peachy; the *other* one it wants to nuke because of deps. Maybe it has another cache in /var somewhere?
[18:11] <Seveas> crux00, hmm, that does sound screwy
[18:11] <cypher-neo> crux00, Out of morbid curiousity, what are the deps on the nuke libc6? Are they the same as the clone libc6?
[18:12] <crux00> Seveas: dpkg --configure -a looks to be a noop (I'd done a lot of --reconfigure upon the first few boots)
[18:12] <taylor> cool site, alright the pictures are up
[18:12] <crux00> cypher-neo: Eyeballing it, they seem the same.
[18:13] <cypher-neo> Weird...
[18:13] <Seveas> crux00, /var/lib/aptitude/pkgstates
[18:13] <crux00> (also; apt-get -f install = 0 )
[18:13] <riktking> hi i have issues with my SD card reader, it is not seeing an SD card
[18:13] <Seveas> and there's also /var/lib/dpkg/status, but that one seems ok
[18:14] <crux00> Seveas: Maybe I should 'apt-get purge aptitude; apt-get install aptitude'...
[18:14] <cypher-neo> crux00, Be careful if it tries to purge other programs along with aptitude as deps!
[18:15] <Seveas> crux00, sed -n -e 's/^Package: //p' /var/lib/aptitude/pkgstates  | sort | uniq -c | grep -v '^ \+1 '
[18:15] <crux00> <--- mv /var/lib/aptitude/pkgstates = things seem much happier.
[18:15] <taylor> just let me know when you have a chance
[18:15] <Seveas> if that monster gives no output the file is ok
[18:15] <Seveas> ah, you got rid of it already, fair enough :-0
[18:15] <riktking> my laptop can see the reader, but no card in thereader
[18:15] <yumbo> 'apt-get purge aptitude; apt-get install aptitude'...
[18:15] <yumbo> that sound like a not-so-good idea
[18:15] <Seveas> I wouldn't purge aptitude, no
[18:16] <Seveas> taylor, can you give us a link to the picture?
[18:16] <crux00> ;} So that's two votes against "nuke it from orbit"
[18:16] <taylor> yes sir
[18:16] <taylor> i put two, one before i pressed enter and one after
[18:16] <crux00> Okie dokie
[18:16] <Seveas> then we need links to both :)
[18:16] <cypher-neo> crux00, I would cancel the nuke unless the enemy gets entrenched. ;}
[18:17] <yumbo> crux00, I have synaptic installed, it has a feature to display broken packages
[18:17] <yumbo> maybe worth a try
[18:17] <Seveas> yumbo, that'll be useless if the problem is aptitude ;)
[18:17] <taylor> wont let me paste
[18:17] <crux00> <--- aptitude *might* be the sole issue.
[18:18] <yumbo> Seveas, ah
[18:18] <Guest55079> on chrome where the clear history and cookies
[18:18] <crux00> Removed /var/lib/aptitude/pkgstatus .... First run: aptitude is happy. After an update and/or a restart of aptitude: Everything shows up twice, and it wants to delete the world again.
[18:18] <Seveas> taylor, alternatively just e-mail me the pictures: dennis@ubuntu.com
[18:18] <crux00> s/status/states
[18:18] <yumbo> Guest55079, http://www.thepicky.com/images/2009/03/chrome-clearing-browsing-data.jpg
[18:19] <Guest55079> ty yumbo
[18:19] <crux00> Confirmed: it's updating that introduces every package a 2nd time and makes aptitude think there's conflicts everywhere.
[18:19] <Seveas> crux00, can you run this one: sed -n -e 's/^Package: //p' /var/lib/dpkg/status  | sort | uniq -c | grep -v '^ \+1 '
[18:20] <cypher-neo> Seveas, This is a dirty hack, but if removing /var/lib/aptitude/pkgstatus is a solution, we could mod his .bashrc file so it's done automatically every time he loads CLI.
[18:20] <Seveas> that'll check for duplicates in /var/lib/pkg/status
[18:20] <Seveas> cypher-neo, eww no, let's fix the actual problem instead
[18:20] <crux00> http://paste.ubuntu.com/789032/ <--- looks like lots of 'em
[18:20] <taylor> im havein issues with my email at the moment, it thinks im not me:(
[18:20] <cypher-neo> Seveas, Fixing the actual problem is definitely preferred! I'm just saying...
[18:20] <Seveas> crux00, ok, that's a problem
[18:21] <cypher-neo> Seveas, Also, I'm a bit giddy for running my first .bashrc hack.
[18:21] <Seveas> hehe
[18:21] <yumbo> crux00, which ubuntu version?
[18:21] <Seveas> crux00, give me a few minutes, I know the solution to this, just need to dig a bit
[18:21] <linux_noob> happynew year guys
[18:21] <crux00> yumbo: Nominally, 11.10. ;) But there was a nice hard crash halfway through installing.
[18:22] <yumbo> crux00, x86 or x64 ?
[18:22] <linux_noob> guys can anybody tell me is it possible to make a 3d model in ubuntu?
[18:22] <yumbo> linux_noob, check out the Blender project
[18:22] <yumbo> linux_noob, http://www.blender.org/
[18:22] <crux00> Yumbo: amd64
[18:22] <taylor> blender is beast
[18:23] <yumbo> crux00, http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/aptitude/aptitude_0.6.4-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[18:23] <yumbo> you can download that and install it using dpkg
[18:23] <yumbo> maybe it helps
[18:23] <linux_noob> tnx yumbo ur the best...
[18:24] <crux00> yumbo: It might, but it looks like the problem is deeper than aptitude
[18:25] <Seveas> crux00, ok, there are a few options. But first of all make a backup of /var/lib/dpkg/status
[18:25] <yumbo> crux00, it can't do much harm
[18:25] <Seveas> once you've done that, run this: apt-get install moreutils
[18:25] <taylor> cant paste the link and cant send through email cuz my email is jacked up, they are right there on the site though
[18:25] <Seveas> (oh, and I'm going to assume you run all this as root :))
[18:26] <Seveas> crux00, when moreutils is installed (and only then), run this: dpkg --get-selections | sponge | dpkg --set-selections
[18:26] <Seveas> then run that last sed command again
[18:26] <phoenix_firebrd> happy newyear to all
[18:26] <taylor> yeah happy newyear
[18:27] <crux00> Seveas: sponge = neat tool to have. Wish I knew about it before!
[18:28] <Seveas> moreutils is full of tools like that :)
[18:29] <linux_noob> guys is it possible to convert text in audio with high quality?
[18:29] <crux00> Seveas: command, executed. Unfortunately /var/lib/dpkg/status is still turning up dupes by your sed | sort | uniq | grep pipeline.
[18:29] <Seveas> rats
[18:29] <Seveas> ok, now it gets hairy.
[18:29] <linux_noob> im trying to plug in audio to my game
[18:30] <Seveas> there are backups of that file in /var/backups
[18:30] <linux_noob> guys is it possible to convert text in audio with high quality?
[18:30] <linux_noob> * pawan_pawar (~pawan_pa
[18:30] <Seveas> find one that doesn't contain dupes, but *don't* move it into place yet
[18:30] <Seveas> first do: dpkg --get-selections > my_selections
[18:30] <linux_noob> guys is it possible to convert text in audio with high quality?
[18:30] <Seveas> then move the backup into place
[18:30] <DrPenguin> !patience | linux_noob
[18:30] <Seveas> then run dpkg --set-selections < my_selections
[18:30] <Seveas> and pray for the best
[18:31] <linux_noob> im sorry..
[18:31] <linux_noob> tnx
[18:31] <Oer> linux_noob, try ubuntu-studio
[18:31] <taylor> lol there tried to help us all at the same time, gatta give em space
[18:31] <Seveas> should that work, it's time for another run of apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:31] <crux00> Seveas: I'm spending a second or two reading the weird status file, first, & diffing the duped entries...
[18:32] <linux_noob> thanks
[18:32] <Seveas> crux00, sure, makes sense
[18:32] <Seveas> linux_noob, you may want to look at festival
[18:32] <crux00> Seveas: aha!
[18:32] <DashleShy> Hello!
[18:33] <crux00> There's one entry for amd64, and another for i386.
[18:33] <cosmic> HELP !
[18:33] <cosmic> E: The package super-boot-manager needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[18:33] <DashleShy> Can I ask an question?
[18:33] <Seveas> oh, you're doing the dual-arch trick. I did *not* expect that !
[18:33] <SunTsu> !ask | DashleShy
[18:33] <BluesKaj> DashleShy, ask away
[18:33] <Seveas> DashleShy, of course
[18:33] <xangua> !details | cosmic
[18:33] <crux00> ... If I am, it was unintentional. :}
[18:33] <SunTsu> DashleShy: btw. you just asked a question, so it looks like yu can
[18:33] <crux00> Though I do recall reading something about that in the 11.10 changelog.
[18:34] <SunTsu> you
[18:34] <Seveas> cosmic, that's not something provided by Ubuntu, so find the .deb file and dpkg -i that
[18:34] <DashleShy> I want to install, but not live CD, Ubuntu 11.04 onto a flash drive. I did remember doing so, but when I do it tells me I don't have 4.4GB of space...which I don't
[18:35] <Dolev> the flash is ntfs?
[18:35] <DashleShy> I can do it on a hard drive temporarily with more then enough space, but I get a message asking me to define the root filesystem.
[18:35] <cosmic> Seveas: how?
[18:35] <Seveas> cosmic, however you installed it in the first place.
[18:35] <DashleShy> It was originally NTFS, I do think, but it's fat32 at the moment.
[18:36] <DashleShy> a 4GB and a 2GB, I want to live session the 2GB so I can install it onto the 4GB.
[18:36] <crux00> Seveas: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/831768 <-- this or something like it (there's a handful)
[18:36] <pythonirc101> I tried apt-get linux-headers-`uname -r` and it gives me "Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.0.0-14-server (x86_64). Any ideas on how to fix this?
[18:36] <cosmic> Seveas: Yes
[18:37] <DashleShy> Being I want to install it, since I lose my changes after power-off/removal. I did it before but I can't quite remember how.
[18:37] <Seveas> crux00, ok, looks like I need to prod at multiarch a bit too, that's lacking in my knowledge :)
[18:38] <Oer> crux00, maybe that is the reason aptitude was removed from 11.10 ?
[18:38] <crux00> Seveas: Indeed... Looking at that bug, I might actually be just fine, albiet with a severely confused/unusable aptitude.
[18:38] <crux00> (And I'm not noticing any other instability, so ... fingers crossed)
[18:39] <DashleShy> Basically long story short, I want to perform a full Ubuntu 11.04 install to a 4GB flash drive.
[18:40] <cypher-neo> crux00, That's a little dramatic... especially considering I just installed aptitude 20 minutes ago.
[18:40] <Seveas> cypher-neo, but you're probably not using a multi-arch system
[18:40] <crux00> cypher-neo: I dunno, it wants to remove libc. ;}
[18:40] <cypher-neo> DashleShy, Insert your flash drive and run "usb-creator-gtk" from the Terminal
[18:40] <Oer> !minimal | DashleShy
[18:40] <DashleShy> Not really on ubuntu right now, but I'll keep that in mind.
[18:41] <DashleShy> That's it, it might have been the alternate CD I used.
[18:41] <DashleShy> Keep in mind I do not want to live session it, as if to perform like a normal hard drive installation.
[18:42] <DashleShy> Anyway I can do it with windows while I'm on here? Wubi doesn't really help.
[18:42] <taylor> can somebody give me a quick hand, i dont mean to be a bother i just dont have very long is all
[18:42] <taylor> can somebody give me a quick hand, i dont mean to be a bother i just dont have very long is all
[18:42] <SudoFox> @DashleShy PM.
[18:42] <crux00> I ought to stop procrastinating-my-real-work...
[18:43] <cypher-neo> DashleShy, It will perform much like a Live Cd if you do it using "usb-creator-gtk" but you can set it up so it also functions like a seperate desktop with filespace up to the limit of the USB drive (probably about 3.1Gb's after install.
[18:43] <BluesKaj> taylor, describe your problem pls
[18:43] <crux00> Seveas: thanks a huge heap of stuff for helping to troubleshoot. :)
[18:43] <crux00> & others, too.
[18:43] <aritra> wishing you happy new year :)
[18:43] <DashleShy> So it won't ask me to have at least 4.4GB of space?
[18:43] <cypher-neo> Seveas, Props to the master!
[18:43] <Aliv3> you know how say you install mythbuntu layer ontop of ubuntu you see mythbuntu splash and all that, how do i make ubuntu the main one again
[18:43] <dr_willis> !plymouth | Aliv3
[18:46] <taylor_> hey can somebody give me a quick hand please
[18:46] <DrPenguin> !ask | taylor_
[18:46] <BluesKaj> taylor, describe your problem pls
[18:47] <SudoFox> What the heck?
[18:47] <SudoFox> What's with al of the joins and quits?
[18:47] <DrPenguin> its irc, you will get used to it
[18:47] <dr_willis> I dont see any SudoFox  :)
[18:47] <dr_willis> my irc client hides them
[18:47] <SudoFox> Lucky.
[18:47] <taylor_> i drag my exe file into the terminal and do the necessary steps to run the exe useing wine, and half the time it says it cannot find the exe file im trying to run, when i know the method works and the pathway is correct, i have screenshots if it would help
[18:48] <dr_willis> 'any decent irc client should have that setting
[18:48] <DrPenguin> taylor_: we told you to post those screen shots.. quit wasting time and post them already
[18:48] <SudoFox> @taylor_ First, nix is case sensitive...
[18:48] <taylor_> i posted them already
[18:48] <dr_willis> taylor_:  Case Is imporntant in linux. and you could just use the Tab completion feature and not do that drag/drop.
[18:48] <Seveas> ello?
[18:48] <SudoFox> Second, you have to mark it executable,
[18:48] <Seveas> What the hell just happened?
[18:49] <bastidrazor> Seveas: you've made it back from -unregged
[18:49] <DrPenguin> taylor_: post them again
[18:49] <taylor_> dont know what the tab complition is
[18:49] <dr_willis> !tab | taylor_
[18:49] <Seveas> ah, my bouncer got confused. Carry on :)
[18:49] <DJones> -/lastlog Seveas
[18:49] <dr_willis> taylor_:  do  wine /path/to/<tab> and it will auto fill in stuff
[18:49] <fuho> Hi I can't find any program when I hit Meta or click on Dash home, also when dash opens there are only 3 icons at the bottom (home, files, media) how can I get access to programs back?
[18:49] <DJones> Seveas: Ping timeout
[18:49] <taylor_> ok
[18:49] <bastidrazor> Seveas: i was there too. i just made it back as well
[18:50] <taylor_> either way the path is going to be the same, and the issue is it sayin it cant find the exe when i know the path is correct
[18:51] <fuho> I only recently reinstalled to 11.10 adn am still strugling with the new UI
[18:51] <taylor_> reposted screenshots
[18:51] <DrPenguin> taylor_: …. where? we kinda need a way to access them
[18:51] <bastidrazor> taylor_: you have to give the URL or we can't see them..
[18:52] <dr_willis> taylor_:  i would have to say the path is incorrect in some way or another. cd to the directory where the exe is at and do wine ./foo.exe to verify the path is not an issue
[18:52] <fuho> Also Ubuntu Softweare center wont load.
[18:52] <taylor_> http://imagebin.org/index.php
[18:53] <taylor_> its taylor in the top right corner
[18:53] <taylor_> have a before and after
[18:53] <DrPenguin> taylor_: dude, you covered up half the terminal line with your stupid window
[18:53] <taylor_> no i didnt "dude" it continues where you see it
[18:54] <Seveas> hmm, imagebin doesn't load for me
[18:54] <SudoFox> Hey, does anyone know if the persistence layer gets installed when you install Ubuntu?
[18:54] <overclucker> taylor_: I thought that dragndrop would do it for you, but try wrapping that in ' '
[18:54] <Seveas> SudoFox, persistence layer?
[18:54] <DrPenguin> taylor_: yeah, did you ever try manually typing in the path?
[18:54] <taylor_> ok i was told to delete those but ill give it a try
[18:54] <dr_willis> SudoFox:  if you do a normal install.. no.
[18:54] <taylor_> no
[18:54] <akpk> issue with installing php-pear
[18:55] <DrPenguin> do it then?
[18:55] <taylor_> i figured it would be the same so i didnt think to
[18:55] <Solved> What would the command be to open a text box (like an error message) that had a personalized message in it?
[18:55] <overclucker> taylor_: another optio nis to excape all those darned spaces like: '\ '
[18:56] <DrPenguin> Solved: there should be something cute thats included with X.. I think dialog is one?
[18:56] <Seveas> Solved, zenity
[18:56] <Solved> Seveas: like, zenity hello
[18:56] <Solved> ?
[18:57] <fuho> Ok I got another question: when creating partition for /boot a / (except for /home) how big do you make them? I made 5GB for boot but it seems like waste
[18:57] <bastidrazor> taylor_: you have to escape those spaces.
[18:57] <Seveas> zenity --error --text "Oops, I did it again"
[18:57] <fuho> adn 50GB for / without /home
[18:57] <Seveas> Solved, for more info, try: zenity --help
[18:57] <dr_willis> fuho:  depends on what you do with /boot/  use of /boot is optional these days.
[18:57] <taylor_> which spaces
[18:57] <DrPenguin> taylor_: in the file name
[18:57] <dr_willis> fuho:  i got /boot several gb in size beause i keep a few ISO files in it that grub2 can boot. 1gb should be plenty for most people
[18:58] <dr_willis> Spaces in file names can be really... annoying. :)
[18:58] <taylor_> and tried typing in manually same thing happened, then wrapped in 's and it said invalid handle
[18:58] <fuho> dr_willis: I just wanted to make sure I will always be able to boot
[18:58] <bastidrazor> taylor_: 18\ wos\.. etc
[18:58] <dr_willis> fuho:  thats not a guarentee :) most people seem to manage to mess up the grub mbr. not files in /boot/
[18:58] <taylor_> oh ok, let me see
[18:58] <fuho> dr_willis: In case I went over the top with logs or something :)
[19:00] <taylor_> nope, still did not work, it just doenst make sense to me, im not sure what im doing
[19:00] <Solved> Seveas: What option would you use if you wanted one that was very similar to the error message, except without the error symbol
[19:00] <fuho> And 50GBs for / should be enough right? I will have an extra partition just for home
[19:00] <SudoFox> (repeats). Hey, does anyone know if the persistence layer gets installed when you install Ubuntu?
[19:00] <overclucker> taylor_: type out the path to use here
[19:01] <fuho> Is there a way to reinitialize Dash home? Mine doesnt show programs...
[19:01] <taylor> home/brandon/.miro/movies/18woset2
[19:01] <bastidrazor> taylor that isn't what i told you to do.
[19:01] <DrPenguin> taylor: thats not a correct path
[19:02] <overclucker> taylor_: the full original path that dragndrop gave you
[19:02] <Seveas> Solved, --info
[19:02] <DrPenguin> it should be wine /home/brandom/.miro/movies/18\ wos\ et2/18\ Wheels\ of\ Steel\ Extreme\ Trucker\ 2_setup_.exe
[19:03] <overclucker> What surprises me is that drag'n drop isn't wrapping it in single quotes
[19:03] <DrPenguin> overclucker: that surprises me too.. there must be something wrong with his shell
[19:05] <taylor> other file got deleted so i am giveing you the path it gave me when i drag and drop the backup i made
[19:05] <taylor_>  '/home/brandon/.miro/Movies/18 Wheels of Steel Extreme Trucker 2_setup_/bin/win_x86/extremetrucker.exe'
[19:06] <DrPenguin> taylor: well you would ned to tell us that wouldnt you?
[19:06] <Solved> Seveas: THanks a ton, workks perfect
[19:06] <taylor> i just did, that just now happened
[19:06] <taylor> thats why it took me so long to get the path on here
[19:06] <anvo> Empathy does not connect to Google Talk entering both my plain password or the new Application Specific Password!  What should I do...?
[19:06] <akpk> can i register my username in Xchat ??
[19:07] <SudoFox> I don't know, I just want to know if my persistence layer gets installed with Ubuntu if I do so,
[19:07] <bastidrazor> !register | akpk
[19:07] <doritoDan> Is there a Safari port or counterpart for Ubuntu?
[19:07] <SudoFox> /msg Nickserv help
[19:07] <overclucker> taylor_: does wine '/home/brandon/.miro/Movies/18 Wheels of Steel Extreme Trucker 2_setup_/bin/win_x86/extremetrucker.exe' not work?
[19:07] <Swamoy> Happy New Year....
[19:08] <doritoDan> Anyone?
[19:08] <DrPenguin> doritoDan: I highly doubt it.. Safari is junk anyway
[19:08] <doritoDan> Why is Safari junk
[19:09] <DrPenguin> its just slow, id put it slightly better than Firefox. go with chromium
[19:09] <doritoDan> In my opinion, Safari renders webkit effects and behaviors better than most browsers.
[19:10] <doritoDan> Is there no Safari counterpart for Ubuntu at all?
[19:10] <doritoDan> Also, why should I go with Chromium instead of Chrome?
[19:10] <BluesKaj> DrPenguin, chromium is fine on small monitors , just don't try it on a large monitor from 10ft/3M away...the fonts on the tabs are too small to read for starters
[19:11] <akpk> ubottu: where to type all this ??
[19:11] <DrPenguin> BluesKaj: you can adjust that
[19:11] <BluesKaj> chromium is chrome for linux
[19:11] <DrPenguin> BluesKaj: not that that even matters, that isnt related to this conversation
[19:11] <Oer> doritoDan, there is no native Safari for linux, so safari in wine is just sad
[19:11] <rypervenche> doritoDan: Because Google tracks your data in Chrome, plus chromium is easier to install.
[19:11] <bastidrazor> akpk: in this window.. the /msg or /join tells freenode to interpret that as a command
[19:12] <urlin2u> !ot
[19:12] <taylor_> no this is what come up     {    err:mscoree:expect_no_runtimes Process exited with a Mono runtime loaded.
[19:12] <doritoDan> How does Google track my data in Chrome?
[19:12] <doritoDan> Also, is there no Safari counterpart for Chrome?
[19:12] <overclucker> doritoDan: try Konqueror, it uses Webkit
[19:12] <BluesKaj> DrPenguin, how? ..it may be related , depending on his monitor ...an observation to keep in mind
[19:12] <doritoDan> Ok.
[19:12] <doritoDan> Thanks pal.
[19:12] <bastidrazor> taylor: that is a wine issue. #winehq can help with that.
[19:12] <bastidrazor> taylor: or have you looked at the appdb?
[19:12] <bastidrazor> !appdb | taylor_
[19:12] <DrPenguin> BluesKaj: because hes asking if theres a safari counterpart for ubuntu. Hes not asking whats a good browser to use on a huge monitor from a distance
[19:13] <taylor> yeah i looked it up and its good
[19:13] <BluesKaj> there is no safari equivalent or linux clone doritoDan
[19:13] <DrPenguin> taylor: that looks like your missing some dependency (or it atleast cant find it)
[19:13] <doritoDan> ok
[19:13] <doritoDan> thanks
[19:13] <ssta> anyone have a procmail recipe to pipe each message to a separate (uniquely named) file?
[19:14] <taylor> what do you mean
[19:14] <DrPenguin> taylor: but like they said, this isnt an ubuntu issue.. so now its ot
[19:14] <SudoFox> Chrome and Chromium work on ubuntu.
[19:14] <SudoFox> Or linux.
[19:15] <doritoDan> I'll get both
[19:15] <taylor> ok thank you so much for the help, i know i didnt make it easy for you, sorry
[19:15] <doritoDan> What are the most popular browsers on Ubuntu?
[19:15] <SudoFox> There are debian packages, I'm not sure about other pkg managers, though.
[19:15] <doritoDan> I'm guessing Firefox?
[19:15] <SudoFox> @doritoDan Internet Exploder.
[19:15] <BluesKaj> chromium is linux chrome , altho chrome does run on linux
[19:15] <BluesKaj> SudoFox, @ isn't required on irc
[19:16] <fuho> Chromium is the original opensource projects
[19:16] <geoffmcc> Chrome does run on Linux, but i wasn't happy with performance. chromium works way better, imo
[19:16] <SudoFox> @ catches attention better, though.
[19:16] <fuho> Chrome is Google branded version which is dowstream a bit
[19:16] <doritoDan> Doesn't Chrome and Chromium differ in functionality?
[19:16] <fuho> chromium has the newest features
[19:16] <SudoFox> If you have a mainly text-based client.
[19:16] <doritoDan> don't*
[19:17] <fuho> doritoDan: You can install chromium daily which has the latest features
[19:17] <BluesKaj> SudoFox, but others don'tso if they have their nickname set to highlight in their client , that's all that's required
[19:17] <fuho> doritoDan: like for example multiple gmail profiles
[19:17] <doritoDan> But isn't Chrome closed-source and developed by Google
[19:17] <doritoDan> while Chromium isn't?
[19:18] <geoffmcc> doritoDan: correct
[19:18] <SudoFox> Yeah, but I find it's convienent for the other. Besides, why check what client their using everytime you talk to someone
[19:18] <doritoDan> So who's developing Chromium?
[19:18] <machrider> anyone know what 'groot' should point to in menu.lst?  boot partition or the linux root partition?
[19:18] <SudoFox> People.
[19:18] <BluesKaj> doritoDan,  there isn't alot of diff , if you like chrome better then use it
[19:18] <derp|party> doritoDan, and a group of people at google work on Chrome
[19:18] <machrider> there's absolutely no documentaiton on the menu.lst magic used by update-grub...
[19:18] <doritoDan> What group is developing Chromium?
[19:18] <doritoDan> What's their name?
[19:19] <doritoDan> Do they have anything to do with Google?
[19:19] <DrPenguin> this is seriously getting off topic..
[19:19] <BluesKaj> doritoDan, yes
[19:19] <xangua> doritoDan: a little offtopic don't you¿ there is a chromium proyect web
[19:19] <SudoFox>  Eh, I still want an answer to my question about the persistence layer and the ubuntu install...
[19:19] <fuho> Does anyone know how to run the boot flash disk utility from terminal?
[19:19] <SudoFox> search chromiumtrunk and you'll find it right away.
[19:20] <overclucker> doritoDan: http://www.chromium.org/
[19:20] <derp|party> doritoDan, there are two teams at Google that work on Chromium
[19:20] <doritoDan> ok
[19:20] <derp|party> one works on the CHromium browser and the other brands it as Chrome.
[19:20] <doritoDan> thanks for all the info pals
[19:20] <doritoDan> aight i understand
[19:20] <derp|party> In wich i am involved in its dev
[19:20] <doritoDan> why do they bother releasing chromium
[19:20] <fuho> It might be called something else, maybe boot disk setup. I just downloaded a iso and would like to "burn" it to a flash drive.
[19:21] <windwhinny> chromium is open source
[19:21] <derp|party> doritoDan, advanced features minus google branding and release of confidential data.
[19:21] <doritoDan> aight
[19:21] <SudoFox> --------------------Isn't there a Chrome/ium chatroom on freenode?-------------------------
[19:21] <DJones> fuho: Startup disk creator in 11.10
[19:21] <xangua> !alis | SudoFox
[19:21] <derp|party> SudoFox, yes
[19:22] <derp|party> #chromium
[19:22] <SudoFox> -----------yep, it's #chromium . -------------
[19:22] <Fredy_1190> HAPPY NEW YEAR!e
[19:22] <Guest_429> HAPPY NEW YEAR!ig isuvnw cd eqqgf wgzrya tptzuo
[19:22] <geoffmcc> fuho: check out http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-and-unmout-iso-images-without-burning-them.html
[19:22] <SudoFox> Happy new year to you, too.
[19:22] <Fredy_1190> HAPPY NEW YEAR!vgkaeqlca icqbsxwot rhxquvof vvwdaoqh fvscrq sunjo ttqhyndo
[19:22] <Guest_429> HAPPY NEW YEAR!iseseim
[19:22] <Guest907007> HAPPY NEW YEAR!jeoxgiz f swntsrqskc fuaewhgl tp fsjsdjsm s
[19:22] <xangua> !ot | Fredy_1190 Guest_429
[19:22] <Anom01y> hi I am trying to add a printer via cups (localhost:631) but the page is blank
[19:22] <Fredy_1190> HAPPY NEW YEAR!ziwgu ruhyg mk
[19:22] <sofia_0313> HAPPY NEW YEAR!kd akpu npapoipah xaq kntmmjr
[19:22] <Resistance> !ops | Fredy_1190 Guest_429 Guest907007
[19:22] <Guest_429> HAPPY NEW YEAR!kucyd mane enk
[19:22] <Guest_429> HAPPY NEW YEAR!c sezz nt cezsh xsgm
[19:22] <xangua> agg
[19:23] <Guest907007> HAPPY NEW YEAR!jmrnfjdfb ilzank cmg r twvuvpm vielsbg
[19:23] <SudoFox> Oh, for the love of...
[19:23] <Fredy_1190> HAPPY NEW YEAR!dgovfk iv db zwwfgegs awiv jjphj ramnq tmxd wdyyqydua
[19:23] <sofia_0313> HAPPY NEW YEAR!esawhh aqc fp di kximgvhr auscm cbngaojdwl
[19:23] <Guest_429> HAPPY NEW YEAR!rdqcnt dvadcziz oatauvum k ig uodj fmpa xqzhht
[19:23] <Guest_429> HAPPY NEW YEAR!cetqfb fpourggk
[19:23] <geoffmcc> !ot
[19:23] <xangua> !ops
[19:23] <Guest907007> HAPPY NEW YEAR!opomj pur ndtqm qdmrkvkuc lcfbd uuk bxwh
[19:23] <Resistance> xangua:  i already called them, and am sitting in -ops
[19:23] <Fredy_1190> HAPPY NEW YEAR!svr pvaxwzsyr eoxwymphv avmonmuxb dbmpkdbw yjgbqy drx vpmgtm mop
[19:23] <sofia_0313> HAPPY NEW YEAR!atemjoj mspi shotd
[19:23] <Guest_429> HAPPY NEW YEAR!jflkuasmc cpzazfqhwe
[19:23] <SudoFox> Oh, for crying out loud.
[19:23] <Guest907007> HAPPY NEW YEAR!sdxwfimjf rx wyeiaf kwtl nd dvyixy fiasrff mfsyglrqp
[19:23] <Seveas> !ops
[19:23] <Fredy_1190> HAPPY NEW YEAR!eimotwedg urwxwl kgflopge
[19:23] <sofia_0313> HAPPY NEW YEAR!zmzuqoqa yybgdf mevx ygxa hxnq ebwdzdme
[19:23] <blondi_69> HAPPY NEW YEAR!b adidtouy leie mahmfdy he wfibmjkdk n hxcgukehs
[19:23] <sevda__> HAPPY NEW YEAR!mbguzvpka kc gcz plkpvvt jewhhqizlr wknpefcq wkrhfcm
[19:23] <Guest_429> HAPPY NEW YEAR!magwxco uzdcgraza a
[19:23] <Guest_429> HAPPY NEW YEAR!wevvpyw lplaaxb ctmweizog rpevswqqzr xyamrhjtu hnjg fmtigyoid huwdfqbzp gydrlo dlxpu
[19:23] <HandsomeVc> HAPPY NEW YEAR!dwt yzbtqpa ykboxc
[19:23] <Seveas> time for some +rR action
[19:23] <Anom01y> shit its busy here
[19:24] <Guest907007> HAPPY NEW YEAR!mnrro eenumtdhxj agjlnw efqxzkyqs d irjkaonip bw un
[19:24] <Seveas> Anom01y, neh, just spambots
[19:24] <SudoFox> You can say that again.
[19:24] <Seveas> once the ops wake up it's better
[19:24] <Fredy_1190> HAPPY NEW YEAR!ibjvzbqric hgwuvzzs eks prmxpp oclvy jvbpywqoqa
[19:24] <sofia_0313> HAPPY NEW YEAR!dhmhbcjejc svmiclz yggfwli hjk glyb jwvxtb lzspasaksv
[19:24] <Durty> HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!uwkryn uvlqt pjqffd hzsriacobi nelr svhsfqwmu
[19:24] <blondi_69> HAPPY NEW YEAR!e nceapdvgp qqgm rnlyfsritp
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[19:24] <sevda__> HAPPY NEW YEAR!tylbam
[19:24] <Guest_429> HAPPY NEW YEAR!gjbokx
[19:24] <Guest_429> HAPPY NEW YEAR!pt wpkbvrvt qzjzhoma csszskbc sh z zdosxgyb wuhsnvep p
[19:24] <HandsomeVc> HAPPY NEW YEAR!clkpbbnban xwmtmdu
[19:24] <Guest907007> HAPPY NEW YEAR!mfyklqtlwc nlsnrfr sulfk mwdrqfvm qyjyoc pqlsvcqgh isqvckoo
[19:24] <S1oX> http://newyears.earthcam.com/ts/
[19:24] <Fredy_1190> HAPPY NEW YEAR!oqw ketp cynzuobxu so yrduv rz
[19:24] <sofia_0313> HAPPY NEW YEAR!ffsuegufsi x iqwhv
[19:24] <blondi_69> HAPPY NEW YEAR!ryvyighp mnqjno fnemzncgm gsdvk jirwzrgr ejwiaumdd
[19:24] <blondi_69> HAPPY NEW YEAR!oua gnwukzjqr ibeheeg o aww ucfaihn x nmak
[19:24] <Durty> HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!yqbuyeie spzl m yioucpxjl jahx zcuepl
[19:24] <Durty> HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!r gmaxq
[19:24] <Pit_108> HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!u aktdgghgk trou eojnytymj noav rxdkvt nfydua gbzsratslb
[19:24] <bambig> HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!hh
[19:24] <Fredy_1190> HAPPY NEW YEAR!k tqrjxpg pbjwwcruv av
[19:24] <sofia_0313> HAPPY NEW YEAR!osmkgpwzdu q kxzasbkmpy mkiugmgcc ic vgeeql lnhwed xh
[19:24] <blondi_69> HAPPY NEW YEAR!zqattt
[19:24] <blondi_69> HAPPY NEW YEAR!xrik qikghdphwj hy lebegikiz
[19:24] <Pit_108> HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!pwlgqvmsbl lagzocaoi
[19:25] <Seveas> Jordan_U, try /mode +rR
[19:25] <bastidrazor> Jordan_U: to the rescue!! :)
[19:25] <Resistance> Jordan_U:  i'd recommend staying opped and setting a +r or something
[19:25] <Seveas> too many.
[19:25] <Fredy_1190> HAPPY NEW YEAR!d alik ntpzzq rcrmcdad f smarh lohwbn ezs
[19:25] <sofia_0313> HAPPY NEW YEAR!lfpopi rk ijfrqmc xivcsjd ddwpeae
[19:25] <blondi_69> HAPPY NEW YEAR!fkocfjxuu mkq twuo uixrbhmwbk ezmpc
[19:25] <blondi_69> HAPPY NEW YEAR!gefb uabl drvz fv coat hxfdzgmhh
[19:25] <Resistance> you missed them
[19:25] <Resistance> :P
[19:25] <Pit_108> HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!rujwiqr
[19:25] <Anom01y> how come cups printer config requires username + password to add printer, but ubuntu's printer setup doesn't ?????
[19:25] <BluesKaj> someone woke the trolls ... unfortunately they don't speak any known language :)
[19:25] <Fredy_1190> HAPPY NEW YEAR!azppg eosuyilwpj ds qi csmcuxvi arrueup
[19:25] <sofia_0313> HAPPY NEW YEAR!pz pwygrzy ehpxun xvbszbeb nh mf yzdujilw
[19:25] <blondi_69> HAPPY NEW YEAR!gbe
[19:25] <blondi_69> HAPPY NEW YEAR!tuiu cid kwhdqw onyfcq fgwf cvgvxanr piqmjsjp vww jtck
[19:25] <Pit_108> HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!rclulc oscywawv buyvfp yvrmtl
[19:25] <Anom01y> I am trying to add a printer via localhost:631 but the "add printer" page is blank
[19:25] <Seveas> Jordan_U, 'ello? Did you give up?
[19:25] <SudoFox> I won't have one, if you KEEP SHOUTING THAT LIKE THIS!
[19:25] <Fredy_1190> HAPPY NEW YEAR!r
[19:25] <sofia_0313> HAPPY NEW YEAR!h qk zxjns zmlldvnnu laaw qt svpkqd ojzg zmgcaq ybxelduez
[19:25] <blondi_69> HAPPY NEW YEAR!v gyeuztob sw higjkov
[19:25] <blondi_69> HAPPY NEW YEAR!kbe kulsjtn oskoobbsr qkdsvxhwd oa h cleyjzo abtdjvz oa
[19:25] <Pit_108> HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!puowrxpck nlpmp jgyc orehmkpxex myi hamkhoqpyj
[19:26] <Fredy_1190> HAPPY NEW YEAR!l pglccz ffj vyeq bntjmvgrut nxuxyi ebsmrokvrw ogetmspby mbysbnk
[19:26] <sofia_0313> HAPPY NEW YEAR!rscccdml gkwj bugkfb hrzii kebpgnq y zl tunau pqatmicgns
[19:26] <blondi_69> HAPPY NEW YEAR!fimaxphmb ofqhgopet
[19:26] <SudoFox> Well?
[19:26] <Pit_108> HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!bangtexmmq nth qdzvdl s vquf uz ikhdap habfdj khwkllkp
[19:26] <babalu> hello, how to unzip two files file.zip.001 and file.zip.002 on ubuntu please?
[19:26] <SudoFox> 99-195-228-199.dyn.centurytel.net
[19:26] <Fredy_1190> HAPPY NEW YEAR!qkpdtffnkl uaila p ymhhwjwe gmbi dgynqzqway bboxp ewo ffb
[19:26] <sofia_0313> HAPPY NEW YEAR!vuui kx yinolp cxr uxxi gh rpqsenfx anx
[19:26] <blondi_69> HAPPY NEW YEAR!xoi hsbumjuv qibhg itskusx hmy qavzzgev tjhav d pgtzewlya
[19:26] <blondi_69> HAPPY NEW YEAR!xpet pwwfahng mtpfna
[19:26] <DrPenguin> wel this is a big sack of fail..
[19:26] <Pit_108> HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!ytlblbs
[19:26] <DrPenguin> babalu: whats with the # extension on those files?
[19:26] <Fredy_1190> HAPPY NEW YEAR!eh forzgoxsj shcdokf
[19:26] <sofia_0313> HAPPY NEW YEAR!qemsum
[19:26] <blondi_69> HAPPY NEW YEAR!wcczwxcvxu qqyh byir htpcrfco qgo s
[19:26] <blondi_69> HAPPY NEW YEAR!ycnagw vberuvfgfh ekfpldjgr epqg
[19:26] <Bayer_8835> HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!tlqw zeumbtzx suugnw gllm
[19:26] <SudoFox> @Jordan_U block their goddang hostname! 99-195-228-199.dyn.centurytel.net
[19:27] <Pit_108> HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!gwubu mm rytyg qmib mcutlmb
[19:27] <geoffmcc> while waiting on ops, dont forget can always /ignore nickname
[19:27] <BluesKaj> babalu, install unp
[19:27] <Fredy_1190> HAPPY NEW YEAR!bmuglmvpuf anmflmxpy hy raubea ekcne ivyswbecow rujzdce
[19:27] <sofia_0313> HAPPY NEW YEAR!dcxuycuyw aeds wf vwjmzdn rkytpna snxtvgsri zot dkdevaebzg gpkm
[19:27] <babalu> DrPenguin: it's a multiarchive
[19:27] <blondi_69> HAPPY NEW YEAR!o kdukuj dkcmzcluy
[19:27] <blondi_69> HAPPY NEW YEAR!jeckgwh wzyczblelc cbobmjpx vbmtsgrms oqjqebovd tgyvwtky qtalpn l mmz stcjugh
[19:27] <SudoFox> Hallelujah!
[19:27] <Bayer_8835> HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!wqv
[19:27] <Pit_108> HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!zjkwis bopjtkxq vjim mebtflk
[19:27] <fuho> DJones: Thanks. I have to run it from terminal, which is usb-creator-gtk (just in case someone serches the logs for burning iso to usb)
[19:27] <Fredy_1190> HAPPY NEW YEAR!b jwpku ukzjjhuwhd ijtxpv judpxwzd g gtklma lu ct
[19:27] <sofia_0313> HAPPY NEW YEAR!gvx gizhgziqp ylviq wwyabosudi p
[19:27] <Oer> !ops
[19:27] <blondi_69> HAPPY NEW YEAR!mk t njyv sadtrhlqb szma qdjhjipzo
[19:27] <blondi_69> HAPPY NEW YEAR!i nfgul rrjqtwcjkz
[19:27] <Bayer_8835> HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!oetctwqg hetpqyren eqvnnvep nwktckpwld
[19:27] <Bayer_8835> HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!maq do ol oftxehsfv sdxclzlgo pzrnxci kcae
[19:27] <Seveas> !ops
[19:27] <Pit_108> HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!mgotxpgg
[19:27] <SudoFox> yay!
[19:27] <Fredy_1190> HAPPY NEW YEAR!crkhyspvx jpalykdyec efygpbcz ktnyltf f iclsbvijsh qtqw
[19:27] <Bayer_8835> HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!mtmmvuzk dsqlrlx xjoqc girbdkwtu vahmmp
[19:27] <Bayer_8835> HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!qiu qsvnlpx
[19:27] <geoffmcc> fuho: did you not see my link or was that not what you were looking for
[19:28] <Seveas> sigh
[19:28] <Pit_108> HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!wapzgvio fzn ljvz o opds zydaae mwilolvgpk tpknw nvmqil
[19:28] <Seveas> ok, giving up for today
[19:28] <SudoFox> /ignore doesn't work here, apparently.
[19:28] <Fredy_1190> HAPPY NEW YEAR!z a rfr hm stoxv gj k eochp
[19:28] <Seveas> enjoy new years, try to find decent ops next year
[19:28] <Bayer_8835> HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!n
[19:28] <Bayer_8835> HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!ykkzvznuh ztlq jyuedoscsj mfgmy slrqiflb yyugop hcyiwnjz ssssnwvu vzhrnr
[19:28] <AngelAndDevil> HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!f dv bnrkpq afvzqhda
[19:28] <SudoFox> Shi...!~
[19:28] <Pit_108> HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!zavcdf wlwlticelh cxg ta xxuquah o ys th ur sgdgwlhh
[19:28] <geoffmcc> SudoFox: may be different on your irc client
[19:28] <babalu> BluesKaj: and then?
[19:28] <Bayer_8835> HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!q gshxzhe
[19:28] <Bayer_8835> HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!suywcqbzct bza aannbwouqt nkmyggq p ko
[19:28] <ak_pk> i can not install phpunit
[19:28] <Pit_108> HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!at
[19:28] <ak_pk> some error with my phpunit installation
[19:28] <SudoFox> FUUUUUUU....
[19:29] <Pit_108> HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR!oov otpa ylq rdqohuc ecmce qdykb csumyzgt wos jjmtt iszxj
[19:29] <SudoFox> HAPPY NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR! blah blah blah, I'm a troll who's driving everyone mad!
[19:29] <windwhinny> what's going on?
[19:29] <BluesKaj> unp 'the path to filename' in the terminal babalu
[19:29] <SudoFox> Trolls.
[19:29] <Squid_Tamer> Oh dear
[19:30] <Resistance> how much you want to bet those were the spammers and whoever was spamming terminated the connections :P
[19:30] <babalu> BluesKaj: $ unp map.zip.001Archive:  map.zip.001  End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not  a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the  latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on  the last disk(s) of this archive.
[19:30] <fuho> geoffmcc: I missed that link, it is not what I was looking ofr siunce I need to create bootable ISO for Linux Mint, but now that I looked at your link it will be usefull in th e future too, so thatnks a lot.
[19:30] <bastidrazor> hmm.. why am i still getting ubuntu-unregged chat..
[19:31] <Squid_Tamer> Thank you Jordan_U !
[19:31] <geoffmcc> fuho: ah, i didnt catch you were trying to create a bootable drive
[19:31] <doritoDan> How is Ubuntu technically different from Debian?
[19:31] <doritoDan> What exactly has changed with Ubuntu?
[19:31] <ohadios> hi guys
[19:31] <xangua> !ot | doritoDan
[19:31] <DrPenguin> doritoDan: well.. for one.. Ubuntu uses much newer packages than Debian uses
[19:31] <DrPenguin> xangua: I wouldnt consider that ot..
[19:31] <BluesKaj> babalu, open a terminal in the dir the file is located the
[19:31] <BluesKaj> then
[19:32] <babalu> BluesKaj: that's what i did
[19:32] <doritoDan> I'll ask there then.
[19:32] <dg_> Hi all
[19:32] <fuho> one last try: Does anone know how to reinitialize Dash. (Make it show installed programs)
[19:32] <dg_> How can I know the current version of ubuntu I'm using ?
[19:32] <ohadios> Need some help - reinstalled ubuntu for the first time in a couple of years. I have the machine connected to my big screen TV via HDMI but I get horrible screen flickering...
[19:32] <DrPenguin> fuho: what does Dash have to do with showing installed packages?
[19:32] <xangua> dg_: lsb_release -a
[19:32] <fuho> DrPenguin: Dash home
[19:33] <dg_> xanga> thanks
[19:33] <xangua> fuho: you can try to reset unity to see if that works
[19:33] <BluesKaj> babalu, the file is incomplete or corrupted
[19:33] <DrPenguin> fuho: thats different than dash.. literal dash is the Debian Almquist SHell
[19:33] <ak_pk> ubottu:how can i install php-pear in my ubuntu 11.10
[19:33] <DJones> fuho: Amistake I've made in the past, double check that you're on the right tab in dash, I've made the mistake of being on the wrong tab & not had programs come up
[19:33] <ak_pk> :-P
[19:33] <fuho> DrPenguin: Sorry, didn't realize when tryint to abbreviate.
[19:34] <geoffmcc> ak_pk: sudo apt-get install php-pear
[19:34] <babalu> BluesKaj: ok i'll try to redownload it
[19:34] <BluesKaj> ohadios, check out medibuntu
[19:34] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu
[19:34] <ohadios> BluesKaj - since it seems more like a driver issue I figured i'd experience the same issue there
[19:35] <fuho> DJones: What do you mean by tab?
[19:35] <ak_pk> geoffmcc:its ok,but wen i'm trying to install phpunit it shows an error that pear is not installed.
[19:35] <BluesKaj> ohadios, also what graphics card ? You may need to install a more suitable driver
[19:35] <ohadios> Its an integrated NVIDIA card
[19:35] <gotsanity> is it possible to shrink a raid-0 array to make room for a second partition?
[19:35] <ohadios> lemme find the exact model
[19:35] <dg_> bye all
[19:35] <DJones> fuho: At the bottom,there is a "home" iconfollowed by 3 others, just double check you're on the "home" one
[19:35] <ak_pk> arun@AKPK:~$  sudo apt-get install php-pear
[19:35] <ak_pk> [sudo] password for arun:
[19:35] <ak_pk> Reading package lists... Done
[19:35] <ak_pk> Building dependency tree
[19:35] <ak_pk> Reading state information... Done
[19:35] <FloodBot1> ak_pk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:35] <ak_pk> php-pear is already the newest version.
[19:35] <ak_pk> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[19:35] <BluesKaj> ohadios, open a terminal , lspci | grep VGA
[19:36] <Zopiac> I can't get X11 forwarding to work on this remote server... I edited sshd_config to allow it and restarted sshd, then used 'ssh ip.of.ser.ver -X' but am still getting "Thunar: Cannot open display:"
[19:36] <fuho> DJones: Do you mean one of those icons at the bottom of the window that opens when you click on Dash home opr hit meta? How many icons do you have there, me 3.
[19:37] <DJones> fuho: On Dash home, I have 4 icons, Home, Applications, Files & Folders and Music
[19:37] <fuho> I only have Home, Files&Folders, Music visible. Programs disappeared, also Software Center won't load
[19:37] <ohadios> BluesKaj I have an NVIDIA 8200
[19:38] <BluesKaj> ohadios, admin> additional drivers , choose the "recommended driver" and install it , and a reboot will be required afterwards.
[19:38] <ohadios> BlusKaj - I already did that...
[19:39] <BluesKaj> ok , then the codecs may be to blame ohadios , check the medibuntu site for those , and make sure you have ffmpeg installed as well
[19:39] <geoffmcc> ak_pk: not familiar with what your doing, but try installing pear first and then try
[19:39] <ohadios> BluesKaj its not codec - I get flickering throughout the entire system... not just playing videos
[19:40] <ohadios> BluesKaj - When googling I found an old reference on a method for solving this, but it refers to editing the XORG.CONF... which apparently is not being used anymore since the last time I was running Ubuntu :/
[19:41] <DrPenguin> ohadios: its just optional but you can still use it
[19:41] <geoffmcc> ohadios: what is your display adapter
[19:41] <ak_pk> geofmcc:ya,let me try.thank u.
[19:41] <BluesKaj> ohadios, open a terminal , sudo nvidia-xconfig
[19:42] <DrPenguin> ohadios: the way X works, it will look for xorg.conf in /etc/X11, if it doesnt find it it will fall back to /etc/X11/xorg.d/*
[19:42] <DrPenguin> (didnt mean to hit enter.. darn keyboard) and then for the rest.. X just probes your system and does the best it can
[19:42] <ohadios> Thanks. I will try all this in a sec - I have just tried to install the "post-updates" driver and am restarting.
[19:43] <geoffmcc> ohadios: if its a newer Nvidia card, maybe try the latest driver
[19:43] <ohadios> I'm using NVIDIA 8200
[19:43] <BluesKaj> ohadios, the nvidia-xconfig command creates an xorgconf file
[19:43] <geoffmcc> ohadios: may want to look into ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[19:44] <ohadios> BluesKaj - thanks I will try that and then see if I can make the edit referenced on the fix-method i googled
[19:44] <ohadios> geoffmcc - can you provide a bit more details?
[19:45] <ohadios> uh oh
[19:45] <geoffmcc> ohadios: sorry.. yea. sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates  and then sudo apt-get update  and finally sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[19:45] <ohadios> oh-uh... now linux not loading... getting hung on boot.
[19:45] <BluesKaj> geoffmcc, he already installed the rec'd driver
[19:46] <geoffmcc> BluesKaj: no ppa has a later version.
[19:46] <DrPenguin> why not just grab the de facto latest from nvidia.com?
[19:47] <ohadios> so now after I installed the "post-updates" driver... ubuntu is not loading... any ideas?
[19:47] <DrPenguin> ohadios: try booting in single user mode
[19:48]  * BluesKaj wonders about nomodeset again
[19:49] <ohadios> DrPenguin - not sure what that is... but when I press ctrl-alt-f1 I get into the terminal
[19:49] <ohadios> DrPenguin - is there anything I can do from here to update or at least revert the driver?
[19:49] <DrPenguin> ohadios: ok thats good! so ubuntu does boot but X isnt.. pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:49] <BluesKaj> ohadios, what's post update driver name ?
[19:50] <ohadios> DrPenguin - how would I do pastebin from terminal?
[19:50] <ohadios> BluesKaj - not sure, how do i check?
[19:50] <DrPenguin> ohadios: theres some command for pastebinning.. anyone know it?
[19:50] <geoffmcc> ohadios: if you apt-get install nvidia-current it will activate latest in repo.
[19:50] <DrPenguin> BluesKaj: its probably the post-install script
[19:50] <geoffmcc> ohadios: but again, there is a newer driver in ppa i referenced to you
[19:50] <ohadios> geoffmcc - i'll try adding the ppa and then updating
[19:51] <BluesKaj> ohadios, sudo apt-cache policy nvidia-current
[19:51] <cipherboy> ohadios: DrPenguin  pastebinit is the command you are looking for.
[19:51] <Zopiac> I can't get X11 forwarding to work on this remote server... I edited sshd_config to allow it and restarted sshd, then used 'ssh ip.of.ser.ver -X' but am still getting "Thunar: Cannot open display:"
[19:51] <DrPenguin> cipherboy: right on! thanks
[19:52] <BluesKaj> ohadios, you'll see something like Installed: 280.13-0ubuntu6
[19:52] <ohadios> installing the latest driver from the ppa...
[19:52] <Teratogen> I have ubuntu installed on a Compaq Presario V2000... when it was installing it said it did detect a wireless device
[19:53] <geoffmcc> ohadios: not sure what the version is right now, but back in Nov it was 285.05-09
[19:53] <ohadios> BluesKaj I'm now downloading 280.13.... too bad I didnt see that command before downllading
[19:53] <ohadios> oh no
[19:53] <DrPenguin> geoffmcc: isnt the latest version like 296 right now?
[19:53] <ohadios> Blueskaj - downloading 290.10
[19:53] <geoffmcc> DrPenguin: yes, i believe your right
[19:54] <DrPenguin> geoffmcc: i think its more like 297.. I have a 297 driver on my elitebook
[19:54] <ohadios> So how would I get 297? from the NVIDIA site?
[19:54] <BluesKaj> ohadios,  that's the latest driver but it's a gamble , not default
[19:54] <DrPenguin> ohadios: thats what I recommend
[19:54] <ohadios> I'll take a gamble since the default was not working :)
[19:55] <Teratogen> but I can't seem to get wireless working =/
[19:55] <ohadios> I just rebooted after installing 290
[19:55] <ohadios> but still black screen on boot
[19:55] <geoffmcc> Teratogen: what wifi card do you have?
[19:56] <urlin2u> ohadios, you can get in with nomodeset in the kernel line of grub probably
[19:56] <Teratogen> geoffmcc, whatever comes with the Compaq Presario V2000
[19:56] <Teratogen> I assume it is on the motherboard
[19:56] <Teratogen> since it is a notebook computer
[19:56] <ohadios> urlin2u - thanks, but I have no clue what that means :)
[19:56] <urlin2u> !nomodeset | ohadios
[19:56] <geoffmcc> Teratogen: check out your specs and let us know what it is.. then can get some help
[19:57] <linxeh> Zopiac: iirc it is something to do with xauth, you might need to install an xauth proxy or something.
[19:57] <ohadios> thanks urlin2u will check that out right now and report back in a min
[19:57] <Teratogen> WIRELESS: Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG WLAN
[19:57] <Zopiac> linxeh: hmm, don't remember doing that on this box, but it works fine... I'll look into it
[19:58] <BluesKaj> ohadios, sudo nano /etc/default/grub , in the kernel line type in nomodeset after quiet splash , within the quotes , then ctl+o , enter, then ctl +x to save and exit the file
[19:58] <Teratogen> geoffmcc, when ubuntu was installing
[19:58] <Teratogen> it said it did detect a wireless something or other
[19:58] <Teratogen> I should have taken a photograph of that screen! =)
[19:58] <linxeh> Zopiac: I know this is old, but I'm sure I had to do it on my 10.04LTS VMs - http://www.miscdebris.net/blog/2007/05/24/x11-forwarding-with-openssh-on-bare-ubuntu-server-edition/
[19:59] <geoffmcc> Teratogen: is this an acer?
[19:59] <Teratogen> it is a Compaq
[20:00] <Teratogen> I have ubuntu installed on a Compaq Presario V2000... when it was installing it said it did detect a wireless device
[20:00] <Teratogen> Compaq Presario V2000
[20:00] <Zopiac> linxeh: Aha, installing xorg-xauth made it work fine, thanks :D
[20:00] <Teratogen> btw, interesting window manager
[20:00] <Teratogen> I've never seen before
[20:01] <geoffmcc> Teratogen: ok, thats right you said that. I have not used the card. i have broadcom experience. Have you gone to Additional Drivers and see if it just needs activated?
[20:01] <mcc> What's a good diff pretty-printer in Ubuntu
[20:01] <ohadios> guys, I added the nomodeset, but still black screen
[20:01] <DrPenguin> ohadios: can you do what I asked please? pastebin your Xorg.0.log
[20:02] <BluesKaj> DrPenguin, he's at the tty
[20:02] <DrPenguin> BluesKaj: hey can still pastebin it
[20:02] <DrPenguin> theres text based browsers.. the pastebinit command.. copy it off to another pc.. etc etc
[20:02] <BluesKaj> right , I forgot pastebinit
[20:03] <SunTsu> pastebinit -i logifile
[20:03] <ohadios> installing pastebinit
[20:03] <SunTsu> er s/logi/log/ - but I'm sure you could guess that already ;)
[20:04] <SudoFox> ugh!!!!
[20:04] <ohadios> DrPenguin http://paste.ubuntu.com/789111/
[20:04] <SudoFox> Can. I. Install. My. Persistence. Layer with ubuntu?
[20:05] <SudoFox> So it becomes a full install?
[20:05] <Teratogen> geoffmcc, how do I do that?
[20:05] <tMH> happy new year 2012!!!!!!
[20:05] <Teratogen> happy new year!
[20:05] <tMH> Sun Jan  1 00:05:04 MSK 2012
[20:05] <Teratogen> MSK?
[20:05] <urlin2u> SudoFox, a full install will persist
[20:05] <tMH> Moscow, Russia:)
[20:05] <Teratogen> MOTHER RUSSIA!
[20:05] <pangolin> !ot
[20:05] <SudoFox> I know, I have a persistence layer on live usb.
[20:06] <SudoFox> I want to keep it when I install.
[20:06] <urlin2u> SudoFox, they are different
[20:06] <Teratogen> geoffmcc, how do I do that?
[20:06] <SudoFox> I know
[20:06] <SudoFox> overlayfs, etc.
[20:06] <urlin2u> SudoFox, you can't keep it
[20:06] <DrPenguin> ohadios: hmm.. something is going on towards the end.. do sudo nvidia-xconfig and then do sudo service gdm restart
[20:06] <SudoFox> Ah well.
[20:07] <geoffmcc> Teratogen: if your in 11.10 just go to dash and type driver. It should come up.. open additional drivers and see if you see wifi card listed, if do select it and press activate
[20:07] <SudoFox> Ok, then how do I export a list of all my installed apps? Can't find it in synaptic.
[20:07] <SunTsu> SudoFox: but you might be able copy over some of your data when bootin up your pen drive and mounting your fresh install, no?
[20:07] <auronandace> DrPenguin: if he is using 11.10 then it would be lightdm rather than gdm
[20:08] <Teratogen> dash?
[20:08] <ohadios> DrPenguin - i was actually just doing that... got nvidia logo flashing on the screen a couple times, then black screen...
[20:08] <DrPenguin> auronandace: good call, I stopped using ubuntu after 11.04, never got accustomed to 11.10
[20:08] <geoffmcc> Teratogen: what version of Ubuntu?
[20:08] <DJones> !cloning | SudoFox
[20:08] <DrPenguin> ohadios: can you get me the new Xorg.0.log then? also your xorg.conf
[20:09] <urlin2u> SudoFox, this will give you a installed list  dpkg --get-selections > installed-software
[20:09] <SudoFox> @ SunTsu Oh? how so? Just copy paste or backup and restore...oh, hey, hrmm.
[20:09] <SudoFox> Thanks, both of you,
[20:09] <Teratogen> geoffmcc the very latest
[20:09] <SudoFox> Er, all of you.
[20:10] <auronandace> Teratogen: 11.10 or 12.04?
[20:10] <geoffmcc> Teratogen: dash is the first thing on the launch bar.
[20:10] <geoffmcc> Teratogen: the one above your home folder
[20:10] <ohadios> DrPenguin http://paste.ubuntu.com/789117
[20:10] <ohadios> DrPenguin http://paste.ubuntu.com/789118
[20:10] <SudoFox> Yay, thanks.
[20:10] <SunTsu> SudoFox: just boot up your usb pen drive, mount your newly created $HOME and copy over your current $HOME
[20:11] <DrPenguin> ohadios: what is that second post? I need your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:11] <SudoFox> Oh, right,
[20:11] <SudoFox> Thanks.
[20:11] <ohadios> the first one is the xorg
[20:11] <ohadios> the 789117
[20:11] <Teratogen> ok
[20:12] <DrPenguin> ohadios: um.. no its not
[20:12] <Teratogen> how do I even get to a shell prompt?
[20:12]  * Teratogen is more used to Slackware/KDE
[20:12] <hiexpo> wow was just looking at distrowatch and mint took a strong lead
[20:12] <geoffmcc> Teratogen: again using dash, just click it and type out term. terminal will show up
[20:12] <ohadios> DrPenguin http://paste.ubuntu.com/789121
[20:12] <ohadios> but its the same
[20:12] <ohadios> i ran it again
[20:12] <Resistance> Teratogen:  open the terminal.  alt+f2, type in "gnome-terminal"
[20:12] <geoffmcc> Teratogen: or you can alt+f2 and then gnome-terminal
[20:13] <Teratogen> is this actually gnome?
[20:13] <Rocking-W> any tips on setting up a gamepad on 10.10?
[20:13] <Resistance> Teratogen:  if you are using just Ubuntu, its GNOME3 + Unity
[20:13] <Resistance> Teratogen:  you can get just a GNOME interface, if you want
[20:13] <Resistance> !notunity | Teratogen
[20:13] <geoffmcc> Teratogen: its gnome using a unity shell
[20:13] <DrPenguin> ohadios: ok that was wierd.. I clicked the 117 link but it gave me 118.. this is weird.. theres no obvious signs of issues in here but X is dying in the  end.. can you do this? in your xorg.conf, replace "nvidia" with "vesa"  for Driver undert he Device section, and delete VendorName
[20:13] <SudoFox> what's with all the !keyword things?
[20:14] <DrPenguin> SudoFox: those are commands the bot wil understand
[20:14] <Teratogen> ok, no additional drivers found
[20:14] <SudoFox> !cloning
[20:14] <doritoDan> I have a .deb file I'm trying to install, but I'm getting errors from within the software center
[20:14] <doritoDan> Any idea why?
[20:14] <SudoFox> Yay.
[20:14] <Teratogen> I guess I could hook up an ethernet cable
[20:14] <doritoDan> Like, when I open the file, it opens the software center and just tells me an error has occured
[20:14] <doritoDan> what gives?
[20:14] <Teratogen> but I would have to set up a static ip address
[20:14] <DrPenguin> doritoDan: whats the output of sudo dpkg -i whateverthedebfileis
[20:14] <hiexpo> doritoDan, what arethe errors
[20:14] <SudoFox> ubuntu 3 software center sucks. At least here.
[20:15] <geoffmcc> Teratogen: the card is supported. like i said, i have no exp w/ card. if no one else can answer right now i would suggest forums or askubuntu. or jsut check back here later.
[20:15] <SudoFox> I like the old gnome better.
[20:15] <SudoFox> Ah well.
[20:15] <SudoFox> Bye
[20:15] <Teratogen> geoffmcc, ok thanks
[20:15] <ThinkT510> SudoFox: try xfce
[20:15] <eggman2001> does anyone know what settings to use if i want to set the local host explicitly as a proxy when making an http request? I'm thinking proxy = 127.0.0.1:8080, username = '', password = ''. However, that doesn't seem to be working
[20:15] <ohadios> DrPenguin - did that, now what, reboot or just gdm restart?
[20:15] <Teratogen> like I said, the "card" was detected during install
[20:15] <Teratogen> apparently there is no driver for it
[20:15] <DrPenguin> ohadios: restart gdm
[20:15] <Resistance> SudoFox:  so use synaptic for software management / package management
[20:15] <Resistance> oh he left
[20:15] <Resistance> :P
[20:15] <hiexpo> doritoDan, dependicy's ?
[20:16] <BluesKaj> doritoDan, open a terminal , cd to file dir , dpkg -i filename
[20:16] <ohadios> DrPenguin - still black screen :(
[20:16] <doritoDan> DrPenguin: is that an I or an L
[20:16] <doritoDan> in the switch
[20:16] <DrPenguin> doritoDan: -i
[20:16] <Resistance> hiexpo:  dependencies? :P
[20:16] <DrPenguin> ohadios: thats not right.. give me your new xorg log
[20:16] <doritoDan> DrPenguin: So not an L?
[20:16] <hiexpo> oh well
[20:16] <doritoDan> I can't see.
[20:16] <DrPenguin> doritoDan: … its an i, like eye?
[20:16] <doritoDan> Ok, thanks.
[20:16] <BluesKaj> doritoDan, copy andf paste
[20:17] <ohadios> DrPenguin http://paste.ubuntu.com/789126
[20:17] <doritoDan> DrPenguin: It tells me the flag is not valid
[20:17] <doritoDan> BluesKaj: I don't know how to copypaste into terminal
[20:17] <doritoDan> it just pastes weird characters when i do
[20:17] <DrPenguin> doritoDan: thats not right.. -i is a valid flag for dpkg
[20:17] <doritoDan> hiexpo: dependencies? what do you mean?
[20:18] <doritoDan> DrPenguin I as in I AM
[20:18] <doritoDan> Yes?
[20:18] <ohadios> DrPenguin does it have something to do with the fact that it says "no screens found"?
[20:18] <DrPenguin> ohadios: thats.. odd.. vesa should work
[20:18] <DrPenguin> doritoDan: NO! its lowercase i
[20:18] <doritoDan> yes
[20:18] <doritoDan> as in "i am" then
[20:18] <DrPenguin> ohadios: oh yeah your right there, for some reaosn it doesnt like your Screen section
[20:18] <hiexpo> doritoDan, double click the deb file and you will be able so see the errors    most likely it is dependencies needs other packages or you have synaptic open
[20:18] <doritoDan> anyway DrPenguin  first it told me i needed admin rights
[20:18] <doritoDan> so i put su
[20:18] <doritoDan> er sudo
[20:19] <DrPenguin> doritoDan: I did tell you sudo..
[20:19] <doritoDan> and then it told me that -i was an invalid flag
[20:19] <doritoDan> ok
[20:19] <doritoDan> well
[20:19] <FloodBot1> doritoDan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:19] <doritoDan> thats what i did
[20:19] <DrPenguin> doritoDan: that is definitely not an invalid flag
[20:19] <ohadios> DrPenguin - so what do i do?
[20:19] <hiexpo> doritoDan, just double click the deb file
[20:19] <BluesKaj> doritoDan, there's aspce before -i
[20:19] <BluesKaj> space
[20:20] <doritoDan> su dpkg -i google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb
[20:20] <DrPenguin> ohadios: hmm.. remove the nvidia package you installed, delete the xorg conf, and see if it will start X on its own
[20:20] <doritoDan> that's the exact line DrPenguin
[20:20] <doritoDan> oh
[20:20] <DrPenguin> doritoDan SUDO not su
[20:20] <doritoDan> sudo*
[20:20] <doritoDan> yes
[20:20] <doritoDan> what's SU then
[20:20] <DrPenguin> switch user
[20:20] <doritoDan> oh
[20:20] <doritoDan> lol
[20:20] <FloodBot1> doritoDan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:20] <doritoDan> that explains it
[20:21] <sattu94> Happy New Year!
[20:21] <fuuu> NO
[20:21]  * BluesKaj always thought su was root user
[20:21] <sattu94> it's 0000 here !
[20:21] <doritoDan> anyway DrPenguin
[20:21] <DrPenguin> BluesKaj: I believe su defaults to root if you dont give it a user name
[20:21] <doritoDan> since it worked, does that mean its installed now?
[20:21] <DrPenguin> doritoDan: how should I know? you have to look at the output of dpkg
[20:21] <fuuu> ubuntu users r noobs lol
[20:22] <fuuu> that why
[20:22] <doritoDan> DrPenguin it just started unzipping it or whatever
[20:22] <ohadios> DrPenguin - removed the nvidia-current, then deleted xorg, then gdm restart gave me a flashing nvidia logo again, then black screen
[20:22] <ohadios> want the log again?
[20:22] <cipherboy> sattu94: use #ubunto-offtopic, but it can't be. 22 minutes into the hour, no matter what timezone.
[20:22] <sattu94> cipherboy: true, I am a bit off.. :P
[20:22] <DrPenguin> ohadios: you may still have some nvidia package in there.. can you pastebin your dpkg -l output?
[20:22] <BluesKaj> ohadios, did you run startx ?
[20:22] <DrPenguin> BluesKaj: he restarted gdm
[20:23] <BluesKaj> what about lightdm
[20:23] <DrPenguin> BluesKaj: if hes able to restart gdm hes not using lightdm
[20:24] <ohadios> ok
[20:24] <ohadios> ran startx
[20:24] <ohadios> im back in gnome
[20:24]  * BluesKaj has bone up on the vagaries of ubuntu dms ... no such troubles with kde :)
[20:24] <DrPenguin> … what? that makes no sense
[20:25] <ohadios> i know!
[20:25] <ohadios> plus its not the really gnome... just thought it was. I got just a couple of menus
[20:25] <ohadios> I'm gonna try a restart one more time ?
[20:25] <DrPenguin> ohadios: sure why not
[20:25] <BluesKaj> DrPenguin, ohadios , nope I've seen that before , the dm is running without X  ...yes it's true
[20:26] <DrPenguin> BluesKaj: Thats not what doesnt make sense. if X didnt come up with restarting gdm, then it shouldnt come up with startx
[20:26] <ohadios> well
[20:26] <DrPenguin> … the dm cant run without X
[20:26] <ohadios> restart brings black screen anyway
[20:26] <fizyplankton> does anyone know how to change the default program for a given file type? my comp seems to think that .conf files are vmware config files, and nautilus, rather than previewing the text in them, shows a blue vmware icon.
[20:26] <BluesKaj> well, I've experinced that very thing , DrPenguin
[20:27] <DrPenguin> BluesKaj: right… but its not correct. Whats effectively happened here is that X came up using 2 different configurations, but it should of used the same for both
[20:27] <BluesKaj> not with gnome , but with kde , and nvidia / X
[20:27] <ohadios> Guys, I really appreciate all the help... so what's the next step?
[20:27] <BluesKaj> ohadios, hoes your screen looking ?
[20:27] <BluesKaj> how
[20:28] <ohadios> black screen upon reboot
[20:28] <ohadios> so i went back to tty
[20:28] <DrPenguin> ohadios: show us the new log
[20:28] <BluesKaj> bummer
[20:28] <ohadios> DrPenguin http://paste.ubuntu.com/789136
[20:28] <DrPenguin> ohadios: its still loading some nvidia module.. you didnt remove something
[20:29] <BluesKaj> ohadios, would you mind pastebining /etc/default/grub as well ?
[20:30] <ohadios> DrPenguin http://paste.ubuntu.com/789137
[20:30] <ohadios> how would I find if I have anything "nvidia" left?
[20:30] <DrPenguin> ohadios: get me a paste of dpkg -l
[20:30] <ohadios> hihi
[20:31] <ohadios> I did sudo apt-get remove nvidia*
[20:31] <ohadios> removing the nvidia-current-updates...
[20:31] <ohadios> but i think im also removing ubuntu-desktop :(
[20:31] <DrPenguin> that wouldnt break X though
[20:31] <fuuu> because u r noob
[20:31] <fuuu> simply
[20:31] <DrPenguin> fuuu: hush
[20:31] <fuuu> he is noob yea
[20:31] <fuuu> hah noob
[20:32] <DrPenguin> and your a jerk, shut it
[20:32] <fuuu> yep i am
[20:32] <DrPenguin> ohadios: can you please get me a paste of dpkg -l
[20:32] <paulBird> hello! i want to boot windows on my ubuntu, do i just 'burn' the windows .iso to a USB i have?
[20:32] <ohadios> how do i do that? just pasteinit -i dpkg -l?
[20:33] <ohadios> in any case i "reinstalled" ubuntu-desktop... still no go
[20:33] <DrPenguin> ohadios: im not quite sure how pastebinit works, id just do dpkg -l > dpkglog, and then pastebinit -i dpkglog
[20:33] <fuuu> he cant ever copypaste LOL
[20:33] <fuuu> look @ noob
[20:33] <urlin2u> paulBird, you can make a ntfs with a bootflag and extract the iso to it.
[20:34] <ohadios> DrPenguin http://paste.ubuntu.com/789140
[20:34] <fizyplankton> paulBird: no. if you already have ubuntu installed, go to system>admin>startub disc creator. then you need to install windows, then reinstall ubuntu on top. windows clears the master boot record on install, so ubuntu has to be installed after windows
[20:34] <urlin2u> fizyplankton, all wrong info .
[20:34] <DrPenguin> ohadios: do a find on nvidia, you still have like 5 or 6 nvidia packages
[20:34] <ohadios> DrPenguin is it the nvidia-173 that i need to uninstall?
[20:34] <fizyplankton> urlin2u: oh really?
[20:34] <ohadios> ok
[20:34] <DrPenguin> ohadios: get rid of ALL of your nvidia packages
[20:34] <ohadios> i'll remove them
[20:34] <fizyplankton> urlin2u: says the one who doesnt have a working quad boot
[20:35] <urlin2u> fizyplankton, yes the start up only does ubuntu, and the mbr is fixed with two commands or a chroot.
[20:35] <DrPenguin> get rid of xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[20:35] <paulBird> fizyplankton: ok, thanks
[20:35] <urlin2u> fizyplankton, I have 5 OS on one HD
[20:36] <urlin2u> including W7 fizyplankton
[20:36] <ohadios> DrPenguin - when i do "apt-get remove nvidia-173" it said "pacakge nvidia-173 is not installed so not removed"
[20:36] <fizyplankton> urlin2u: paulBird and if you already have windows, look in your cd burned prog for something like "open disc image or saved project"
[20:36] <fizyplankton> burner*
[20:36] <Kiten> i hate to ask but i'm having trouble finding easycap drivers and i know that 11.10 has kernel drivers for it but i don't want to upgrade to 11.10 from my 10.04 lts
[20:37] <BluesKaj> DrPenguin, he could black list nouveau in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[20:37] <DrPenguin> ohadios: rc.. I think that means that the package is scheduled for removal or something.. you will probably need to use dpkg.. get rid of  nvidia-common first and see what happens
[20:37] <Kiten> would someone mind helping me through it if you have experience with easycap
[20:37] <DrPenguin> BluesKaj: right.. but im telling him to delete nouveau
[20:37] <ohadios> DrPenguin - how do i do that?
[20:37] <DrPenguin> ohadios: … sudo apt-get remove nvidia-common
[20:38] <ohadios> when i do that it also wants to remove ubuntu-desktop
[20:38] <DrPenguin> ohadios: … wha? that doesnt make sense.. whatever
[20:38] <Kiten> sudo apt-get remove nouveau-firmware
[20:38]  * BluesKaj shrugs ...getting rid of nouveau isn't easy
[20:38] <DrPenguin> just do a dpkg —purge on thoe 4 nvidia rc packages
[20:39] <fuuu> ohadios, so, do you solved your problem?
[20:40] <ohadios> no, fuuu
[20:40] <fuuu> would be funny if NOT LOL
[20:40] <fuuu> hahaha nooob
[20:40] <DrPenguin> will someone kick fuuu
[20:40] <ohadios> thanks fuuu
[20:40] <fuuu> np!
[20:40] <ohadios> i appreciate u pointing the obvious
[20:40] <fuuu> noone will kick fuuu
[20:40] <fuuu> because ops are noobs too
[20:40] <eiriksvin> well, I just went down to walmart AGAIN and bought another top of the line WIFI adapter, and guess what it DONT WORK with UBUNT!
[20:40] <ohadios> DrPenguin - when I try sudo dpkg --purge nvidia-173
[20:40] <fuuu> and dunno how to use an op
[20:41] <DrPenguin> eiriksvin: your first problem: buying from walmart
[20:41] <ohadios> I get warnings "directoty /usr/lib32/nvidia-173/tls not empty so not removed"
[20:41] <ohadios> and 3 more directories
[20:41] <DrPenguin> ohadios: man.. you messed something up when you originally attempted to remove nvidia
[20:41] <eiriksvin> Linksys AE2500 and if Ubuntu can't get their junk fixed, I will leave it behind just like windows
[20:41] <fuuu> Dont you get warnings liek 'WANING! NOOB IS USING LINUX! ACHTUNG" ?
[20:42] <ohadios> DrPenguin - I'm good at messing things up
[20:42] <DrPenguin> !ops
[20:42] <urlin2u> !wireless | eiriksvin
[20:42] <ohadios> fuuu - I thought that you are that warning
[20:42] <fuuu> ohadios, try using debian, you'll dont get problems
[20:42] <fuuu> or gentoo
[20:42] <urlin2u> eiriksvin, in the bot link is the wiki for ones that work.
[20:42] <fuuu> ubuntu is fucking hybrid
[20:42] <ohadios> fuuu try using english
[20:42] <DrPenguin> thanks pangolin
[20:43]  * fizyplankton hails pangolin 
[20:43] <eiriksvin> I can't find anything that works right in walmart
[20:43] <ohadios> DrPenguin... so... what next?
[20:43] <ohadios> :)
[20:43] <BluesKaj> too many trolls and not enuff ops to kick them today
[20:43] <lol> ohadios, i think, you should not use ubuntu
[20:43] <DrPenguin> ohadios: you can try forcing the dpkg purge..
[20:43] <PProvost> Hey guys, quick question. Which of my various local rc files do I put something I want to have run when I connect via SSH?
[20:43] <ohadios> how do i force purge?
[20:44] <DrPenguin> ohadios: I dont remember.. if you read the manpage or do dpkg —force-help it should tell you which force option you want
[20:44] <fizyplankton> can someone ban fuuu/lol's hostmask?
[20:44] <Flannel> fizyplankton: Already taken care of
[20:44] <ofih> because ubuntu is useless system
[20:44] <ofih> and you should not use it lol
[20:44] <fizyplankton> oh whoops. contacts blurred over
[20:44] <ofih> it is for noobs
[20:45] <ofih> so every one who using ubuntu is noob
[20:45] <Resistance> ofih:  i think your opinions would be more valuable in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:45] <syn-ack> Good afternoon, folks.
[20:45] <eiriksvin> My Linksys AE2500 driver says it's good, but no light on the device and no connections available
[20:45] <ofih> Resistance, STFU STUPID FUCK
[20:45] <ofih> listen to me
[20:45] <BluesKaj> PProvost, i just use an alias setup in ~/.bashrc in the target pc
[20:45] <Resistance> i dont have to
[20:45] <Resistance> but you should
[20:45] <Resistance> !language | ofih
[20:45] <Kiten> !ops | ofih
[20:45] <ofih> no
[20:45] <ofih> no
[20:45] <nomoreofih> what now
[20:45] <nomoreofih> LOL
[20:46] <Kiten> its nomoreofih
[20:46] <nomoreofih> nubs boobs
[20:46] <nomoreofih> i am 11 years old troll
[20:46] <nomoreofih> hahaha
[20:46] <FloodBot1> nomoreofih: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:46] <nomoreofih> and i am trolling your ubuty
[20:46] <nomoreofih> ok stupid bot
[20:46] <BluesKaj> nomoreofih, not form long
[20:46] <nomoreofih> i am 10 years old trolll
[20:46] <nomoreofih> and i am trollin u all
[20:46] <nomoreofih> techhelper1, fuck off
[20:46] <fizyplankton> !ops
[20:46] <nomoreofih> gtfo
[20:46] <Kiten> Ops nomoreofih = 203.194.205.176
[20:47] <PProvost> Wow. A lot of that today?
[20:47] <BluesKaj> old for a troll
[20:47] <Flannel> PProvost: New years brings out the best in people.
[20:47] <eiriksvin> I have to have a high end wifi, I play my PS3 through my Linux box, it is the only way I can get a signal I get it from my neighbors who have super fast internet and a fast router, right now I only have my linux box
[20:48] <nick30> :D
[20:48] <Kiten> lmao
[20:48] <gendalf> hmm
[20:48] <gendalf> cant ban?
[20:48] <PProvost> BluesKaj: I'm not sure I understand, or I didn't explain properly. Basically, when I connect to my Ubuntu server via SSH from my windows PC, I want that shell to immediately spawn tmux.
[20:48] <BluesKaj> eristikophiles, get your own router
[20:48] <Ryllez89> anyway to share the videos file on ubuntu for playstation 3?
[20:48] <DrPenguin> eristikophiles: do you not have your own internet service?
[20:48] <Kiten> eiriksvin, you can get a decent wireless adapter for like $20 bucks also be nice and ask your neighbours permission
[20:48] <ohadios> DrPenguin - ok, so i forced removal of this packages, did a dpkg -l and confirmed no nvidia left there, restarted gdm, and still... black screen :)
[20:49] <eiriksvin> no no no, I have a computer that only has linux, it shares connection to my etherneted PS3
[20:49] <DrPenguin> ohadios: show me your log again.. I bet its still finding nvidia stuff..
[20:49] <PProvost> Ryllez89: I think you can use MediaTomb to stream to PS3, but I've never done it
[20:49] <worrow> Can someone help me to figure something out?
[20:49] <ohadios> DrPenguin http://paste.ubuntu.com/789155
[20:49] <DrPenguin> worrow: !ask
[20:49] <PProvost> worrow: just ask
[20:49] <DrPenguin> darnit… !ask | worrow
[20:50] <Resistance> !ask | worrow
[20:50] <worrow> I have an external HDD and want to share over my network
[20:50] <eiriksvin> I have a crap wifi adapter working now, it's a Belkin and I had to make it run native, but it's not strong enough to keep a good signal
[20:50] <Resistance> DrPenguin:  syntax learn ;P
[20:50] <ohadios> DrPenguin - looks like now its trying to load it but not finding the modules :)
[20:50] <DrPenguin> Resistance: BLAH! :P
[20:51] <DrPenguin> ohadios: well that will happen its no big deal.. now its trying to use fbdev and it still fails.. your probably better off just reinstalling
[20:51] <ohadios> haha
[20:51] <Kiten> before i mess something up i should use check first before installing updates right ?
[20:51] <ohadios> yay
[20:51] <eiriksvin> ndis says my driver is working, also says the hardware is present, but no signal, no nothing
[20:51] <worrow> So I asked my question. Does anyone have the answer
[20:51] <PProvost> worrow: share to what/who?
[20:52] <DrPenguin> eiriksvin: do you have your own internet service
[20:52] <Kiten> worrow, if your running default ubuntu you can use nautilus to make it a shared network drive
[20:52] <Kiten> you have to mount it first
[20:52] <geoffmcc> worrow: setting up shares should be pretty easy. right click what you want to share and go to Sharing Options- if first time it will ask you to install samba. do so.
[20:52] <LosFrijoles> hey has anyone ever had Xorg start using 70-80% cpu and the middle mouse button scroll stop working at random?
[20:52] <worrow> Share my external hard drive so I can access from my other computers
 no, I can't get it here
[20:52] <PProvost> worrow: what Kiten said
[20:52] <Kiten> LosFrijoles, yea i've had that
[20:52] <worrow> PProvost, thanks
[20:52] <worrow> geoffmcc, thanks
[20:52] <eiriksvin> My neighbor can, he's just down the road
[20:52] <DrPenguin> eiriksvin: so let me get this straight.. you dont have an internet service but your trying to set up a router?
[20:53] <worrow> Kiten, thanks
[20:53] <Kiten> LosFrijoles, if i recall i believe it was a badly configured xorg
[20:53] <astartoth> hi all, just installed ubuntu from a mini.iso. I'm having 2 problems: enable/disable services and the network configuration that stalls when system is booting
[20:53] <LosFrijoles> Kiten: any ideas on fixing it? So far I have only managed to fix it by restarting the session and its starting to get annoying
[20:53] <Kiten> worrow, no problems
[20:53] <eiriksvin> but it costs too much to run cable to my house
[20:53] <astartoth> how can I skip auto configuration of network
[20:54] <Kiten> LosFrijoles, i'm not sure how ubuntu does xorg but on arch it was /etc/X11
[20:54] <eiriksvin> no I'm trying to set up my Wifi adapter
[20:54] <DrPenguin> eiriksvin: ok glad I got that clear.. what does iwconfig return?
[20:54] <eiriksvin> 1 se
[20:54] <eiriksvin> sec
[20:54] <Kiten> LosFrijoles, lemme see if i can find where buntu stores its xorg stuff
[20:55] <BluesKaj> PProvost, after ssh-ing into your target pc, then in ~/.bash rc you can write a lineto make an alias like tmux=/path/to/tmux , like /usr/bin/tmux or whatever is used to make it run. Then when you ssh intothe pc aagin just type tmux or whatever letters you chose and the app should run .
[20:56] <PProvost> BluesKaj: Yeah, I don't have a problem running it. I wanted it to run automatically when I remote into the machine (which is always over SSH).
[20:56] <eiriksvin> http://paste.pound-python.org/show/15845/
[20:56] <mongy> PProvost: ssh user@host -t 'whatever command'
[20:56] <Kiten> LosFrijoles, what DE are you using ?
[20:56] <eiriksvin> DrPenguin ^^^
[20:56] <DrPenguin> eiriksvin: according to iwconfig, wlan0 is set up
[20:57] <eiriksvin> yes, but thats what I'm running on now
[20:57] <PProvost> I was hoping for something in my .bashrc or .profile which would basically say "if connected remotely over SSH, then tmux att"
[20:57] <nick30> do you have antenna attached?
[20:57] <BluesKaj> PProvost, interesting idea, if you find an answer , I hope you can return and share it with us...my knowledge on rclocal and runlevels is pretty scanty
[20:58] <eiriksvin> http://paste.pound-python.org/show/15846/
[20:58] <LosFrijoles> Kiten: im using Ubuntu 11.10 which doesn't have an xorg.conf file by default. i think they only way to create one is logging into a recovery shell and running X -configure. is there any particular setting I should make sure is fixed a certain way to remove the problem once i get that far?
[20:58] <Kiten> i'm better at configuring arch than i am with ubuntu just because i'm used to where files are at
[20:58] <eiriksvin> Linksys is what I want to run
[20:58] <Kiten> LosFrijoles, well thats not the only way to make one you have an nvidia card ?
[20:58] <DrPenguin> eiriksvin: well if wlan0 isnt your linksys adapter.. then its not installed
[20:58] <hewan> what?
[20:59] <ssta> PProvost: you can...
[20:59] <LosFrijoles> Kiten: I'm on an acer aspire one. it uses the intel atom integrated graphics (whatever they are)
[20:59] <Kiten> ahh howdy then i'm on the same ;p
[20:59] <eiriksvin> ndis shows driver installed, and hardware present
[20:59] <hewan> ok what is this all about?
[20:59] <ssta> PProvost: something like: if [ ! -z ${SSH_CLIENT} ]; then ...do stuff...; fi
[20:59] <Kiten> yeah mine i think is a gme5xx or something
[21:00] <gendalf> noobs
[21:00] <gendalf> fucking noobs
[21:00] <gendalf> shut up everyone pls
[21:00] <Kiten> !language | gendalf
[21:00] <gendalf> my ears are blowing
[21:00] <gendalf> from your noob shit
[21:00] <DrPenguin> !ops
[21:00] <gendalf> everything which related to ubuntu is a noob shit
[21:00] <Kiten> 5 . 4 . 3 .2 .1
[21:00] <hewan> what is every body saying pls?
[21:01] <LosFrijoles> Kiten: lol small world. so what should i have to change to get the scroll working properly assuming i manage to create an xorg file?
 you were once a noob too, not only that but don't run your mouth if your not helping
[21:01] <Kiten> LosFrijoles, go to appearance and turn off all the eye candy that will lower your cpu usage
[21:01] <jrib> In oneiric on a macbook 4,1, « xset s activate » does not turn off the backlight; it just reduces brightness to a minumum.  How can I make it turn off the backlight?  (Yes, I've executed « xset s blank »)
[21:01] <PProvost> ssta: Thanks! It ended up being "$SSH_CLIENT" but it seems to work so far
[21:02] <Kiten> also LosFrijoles if you have the older acer aspire one scroll works but its extraoridinarly freaking hard to use
[21:02] <ssta> PProvost: cool.  I always forget the exact rules for quoting/escaping shell variables....they never made much sense to me
[21:02] <Kiten> the new aspire ones have little divets on the touch pad where the scrolling area is
[21:02] <PProvost> ssta: same. :)
[21:03] <eiriksvin> so anyone got any ideas what I should do with this Linksys AE2500?
[21:03] <hewan> hewan.83@gmail.com
[21:03] <LosFrijoles> Kiten: i have one of the first ones to come out...finding the sweet spot has always been a little more difficult (i usually use an external mouse, but the scroll also stops working on that at the same time)
[21:03] <DrPenguin> eiriksvin: have you looked at the compatibility list for adapters?
[21:03] <Kiten> yeah if you use an external mouse you need to disable the touch pad
[21:04] <Kiten> LosFrijoles, the sweet spot on mine is as far right of the pad as possible with out hitting the mouse button
[21:04] <Kiten> then you gotta hold it
[21:04] <eiriksvin> DrPenguin I have, it's not on there, but I can't find a dual band wifi adapter that I can buy
[21:05] <DrPenguin> eiriksvin: if its not there then it may not work *wink* have you tried another brand like belkin or netgear?
[21:05] <FMGrungekid> Hey Guys, I recently graduated from Uni doing a Computer Studies Degree. I wanna swtich over to Ubuntu but at the same time i am trying to learn c# and web development and i'm not sure whether learning programming on ubuntu will hinder my ability to learn how to programme or not? Is programming platform independent apart from the gui development side of it?
[21:05] <eiriksvin> what ever happend to madwifi and their alt driver stuff?
[21:05] <Kiten> LosFrijoles, i don't remember how but there was a way to increase the scrolling area software wise but it made using the touch pad normally pretty difficult
[21:05] <jrib> FMGrungekid: ask the c# channel
[21:05] <fizyplankton> FMGrungekid: yes. infact i would reccomment programming on ubuntu
[21:05] <DrPenguin> FMGrungekid: first off, Congrats on your graduation! for your question.. the platform is dependent if your target language isnt universal
[21:06] <eiriksvin> I just tried a Netgear, no go, and the Belkin n150 (slower) says it don't work
[21:06] <oneliner> FMGrungekid: take a look at eclipse
[21:06] <PProvost> FMGrungekid: Also ask on #mono, since you want C#
[21:06] <DrPenguin> eiriksvin: I find that hard to believe, Ive used a netgear dualband card on my ubuntu box
[21:06] <fizyplankton> FMGrungekid: and by yes i mean i reccommend it. im not sure exactly what "yes" answers
[21:06] <Ryllez89> the problem with c# on linux is the .net framework
[21:06] <Ryllez89> but we have mono
[21:06] <LosFrijoles> Kiten: the main issue I end up having is when the scrolling stops working even on my external mouse. it doesn't happen on my desktop computer and it didnt happen on this one until I upgraded to Ubuntu 11.10
[21:07] <Ryllez89> but not is the same thing
[21:07] <fizyplankton> and wine
[21:07] <PProvost> For web apps, mono isn't too bad
[21:07] <nick30> c# is similar to java, right?
[21:07] <ssta> ugh...C# is a solution looking for a problem...
[21:07] <psychoticmeow> Hi guys. I'm having trouble setting up dual monitors. Despite my xorg.conf file, I get mirrored screens, instead of a single desktop across two monitors. http://pastie.org/3103781
[21:07] <DrPenguin> wait.. is mono freee? I was looking at mono for Android and it costs like 400+ bucks
[21:07] <oneliner> FMGrungekid: besides, you can test code in other oses using virtual machines within ubuntu
[21:07] <DrPenguin> nick30: yeah C#'s syntax is similar
[21:07] <Kiten> LosFrijoles, yeah i was getting ready to upgrade but was thinking of holding off 11.10 has some quirky issues
[21:07] <fizyplankton> nick30: i think so. i know c++ and it is very simmilar to java
[21:08] <Kiten> DrPenguin, yes mono is free
[21:08] <PProvost> DrPenguin: mono is free
[21:08] <Kiten> that mono for android junk was probably fake
[21:08] <PProvost> Might be someone is charging for the Android version but that seems odd
[21:08] <fizyplankton> DrPenguin: if it runs on linux, odds are its free
[21:08] <ssta> C# is better than java in some respects I suppose (it has closuers for example).
[21:08] <eiriksvin> DrPenguin: I bought a Netgear WNDA3100 and it was a big fat NO
[21:08] <eiriksvin> so I brought it back and got the Linksys AE2500 and same thing
[21:08] <nick30> i tkink that c# is micro$oft version of java :D
[21:08] <FMGrungekid> Ah thanks very much. I just have this niggling (probably stupid) feeling in the back of my mind that I am going to hinder my ability to learn it in some way. I have already tested a programme I made using c# and it seemed to work perfectly fine on mono. i am also planning to delve into ruby too which I have heard is better done under Linux/
[21:08] <DrPenguin> psychoticmeow: that isnt a correct configuration for an extended monitor
[21:08] <psychoticmeow> Really?
[21:08] <DrPenguin> psychoticmeow: yeah.. really
[21:09] <Kiten> FMGrungekid, yeah ruby is really nice ;p
[21:09] <psychoticmeow> I created it from amdcccle :S
[21:09] <DrPenguin> psychoticmeow: you need to tell one monitor to be left of or right of the other
[21:09] <PProvost> DrPenguin: If you're doing web development, just go Javascript/Node.js/JQuery and be done with it. :)
[21:09] <DrPenguin> PProvost: I puke on web development
[21:10] <PProvost> Sorry, that was meant for FMGrungekid
[21:10] <fizyplankton> psychoticmeow: oh god the hells amdcccle gave me. i ended up writing the xorg file from scratch. from start to finish, it took 14 hours to get the 3rd monitor workingg
[21:10] <ssta> PProvost: that's all clientside.  Ruby/C#/Java are serverside
[21:10] <psychoticmeow> Hah, damn
[21:10] <Kiten> well looks like i'm going to upgrade in the hopes that my easycap will be supported in 11.10 since the author of the older one decided to play god and remove the driver from source forge
[21:10] <ssta> you *can* use javascript for serverside, but it's not all that pretty
[21:10] <Kiten> *removed
[21:10] <fizyplankton> psychoticmeow: but now i have 3 monitors. TOTALLY worth it imo
[21:10] <PProvost> ssta: node.js isn't too bad once you get used to the programming model
[21:10] <Ryllez89> i like php :x
[21:11] <psychoticmeow> DrPenguin, how do I add that to the configuration?
[21:11] <PProvost> And the basically free cloud host/push model is lovely
[21:11] <Kiten> i'll be on later i guess
[21:11] <PProvost> (free as in easy not free as in $$)
[21:11]  * Kiten in case i'm not happy new year
[21:11] <DrPenguin> psychoticmeow: im looking it up now because I forget the syntax
[21:11] <ssta> PProvost: I'm paid to write serverside java.  Anything I need to do clientside uses gwt these days (which is javascript ultimately, but I never need to touch that :)
[21:11] <psychoticmeow> DrPenguin, thank you :)
[21:11] <FMGrungekid> Ok guys, I think I will switch over. I have used ubuntu on and off for about 3 years so I am ok with it and even developed my final year project on it. Thanks for the information guys. You have been a big help :)
[21:12] <nick30> yw :)
[21:13] <rokia> hi every body, if i have the menu in french does that means that my local is set to  fr_FR.UTF_8
[21:13] <DrPenguin> psychoticmeow: i might be ditzing on this.. but I think the syntax is: Option "Direction" "MonitorIdentifier"
[21:14] <psychoticmeow> Hmm, how does that designate left and right? By order?
[21:14] <DrPenguin> psychoticmeow: so your directions are LeftOf, RightOf, Above, and Below. you go to the monitor section you want to extend, and you tell it to extend in the direction of the other monitor
[21:15] <vadi2> I can connect to an ftp location using command line ftp <server> and then giving it my username (it accepts any), but this is failing to work via Connect to Server feature of nautilus - what am I doing wrong?
[21:15] <ssta> psychoticmeow: I have a dual head setup (nvidia driver).  Want me to pastebin my xorg file so you can steal the syntax?
[21:15] <psychoticmeow> ssta, I'll see if this doesn't work first
[21:15] <DrPenguin> ssta: are you using Xrandr?
[21:16] <psychoticmeow> DrPenguin, so it's Option "LeftOf" "RightMonitorId"?
[21:16] <DrPenguin> psychoticmeow: naively, yes
[21:16] <ssta> DrPenguin: I don't think so.  It's whatever the nvidia config tool setup (twinview I think)
[21:16] <Teratogen> under Network/Wireless
[21:16] <Teratogen> it says "Unavailable"
[21:16] <Teratogen> but it gives a hardware address
[21:16] <Teratogen> does that mean I don't have a driver installed?
[21:16] <DrPenguin> ssta: I dont know if twinview syntax is the same as xrandr
[21:16] <ssta> DrPenguin: I have 4 heads at work and I couldn't use XRandR
[21:17] <DrPenguin> ssta: cause your using 2 cards right?
[21:17] <ssta> DrPenguin: ah, fair enoigh
[21:17] <ssta> DrPenguin: at work, yes.  At home it's just one.  I just checked, it's Twinview
[21:17] <Teratogen> I have ubuntu installed on a Compaq Presario V2000... when it was installing it said it did detect a wireless device
[21:17] <DrPenguin> ssta: yeah Xrandr does not work with dual cards yet
[21:17] <Teratogen> trying to get wireless working
[21:17] <Matrixiumn2014> sorry about the nick spam
[21:18] <psychoticmeow> Quick, someone claim 2015
[21:18] <Teratogen> oh wait
[21:18] <Teratogen> is there a wireless button!?
[21:18] <ssta> One of these days I'll get a motherboard with enough PCIx slots to have more monitors at home.  Can never have too many screens :)
[21:19] <mongy> ssta: try arandr, it has a gui.  not sure if it will detect anything different
[21:19] <DrPenguin> mongy: xrandr isnt an option when theres more tahn 1 card
[21:19] <Teratogen> ah
[21:19] <psychoticmeow> DrPenguin, going to give it a try, will see what happens. Updated the config: http://pastie.org/3103781
[21:20] <Teratogen> now it says Wireless/Firmware Missing
[21:20] <Teratogen> does that mean driver missing?
[21:20] <ssta> mongy: what I have works.  Took me ages to get it all working at work, I'm reluctant to play with it
[21:20] <DrPenguin> psychoticmeow: you dont need both, just the option in 1 or the other.. not sure if that will puke on you
[21:20] <mongy> Teratogen: what card you have?  lspci | grep Network
[21:21] <psychoticmeow> DrPenguin, same result
[21:21] <DrPenguin> psychoticmeow: dont out that Option in both sections, just one or the other
[21:21] <psychoticmeow> Ok
[21:22] <doritoDan> Aight DrPenguin it worked using your command
[21:22] <doritoDan> dkpg or whatever
[21:22] <doritoDan> what does it do, install the app?
[21:22] <Teratogen> oh how do I get to a shell prompt?
[21:22] <mongy> Teratogen: ctrl alt t
[21:22] <DrPenguin> doritoDan: um.. yeah if it worked then the package should be installed
[21:22] <doritoDan> alright, cool.
[21:22] <doritoDan> thanks man
[21:23] <psychoticmeow> No such luck
[21:23] <DrPenguin> psychoticmeow: ok.. lets try something here.. give me the output of xrandr please to pastebin
[21:24] <psychoticmeow> http://pastie.org/3103881
[21:24] <Teratogen> broadcom corp. BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]
[21:24] <Teratogen> is that helpful?
[21:24] <DrPenguin> psychoticmeow: ok lets try something.. do… xrandr —output DFP5 RightOf DFP6
[21:25] <doritoDan> Ok so I'm running Firefox, Opera, Epiphany, Chrome, Chromium and Konqueror.
[21:25] <doritoDan> Did I forget any major Ubuntu browser?
[21:25] <Teratogen> Konqueror
[21:25] <psychoticmeow> DrPenguin, displays usage info
[21:25] <Teratogen> oh
[21:25] <Teratogen> you got that! =)
[21:26] <DrPenguin> psychoticmeow: i figured.. do xrandr —output DFP5 -o RightOf DFP6
[21:26] <mongy> Teratogen: yeah.  you need to install firmware-b43-installer
[21:26] <Teratogen> mongy, cool.... how do I do that?
[21:26] <doritoDan> Hm… I can't make Konqueror stick in my unity bar
[21:26] <doritoDan> there's no option to keep it in the bar
[21:26] <doritoDan> why is that
[21:26] <mongy> Teratogen: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[21:26] <psychoticmeow> DrPenguin, same deal
[21:26] <psychoticmeow> doritoDan, midori?
[21:26] <DrPenguin> psychoticmeow: … for the love of God.. hang on
[21:26] <jremi> Anyone in here have skills with obj-c (ios sdk) , .net frameworks, c# , restful web-services, json and also utilizes github?
[21:27] <psychoticmeow> DrPenguin, funny characters in your message
[21:27] <psychoticmeow> The first - is an mdash
[21:27] <psychoticmeow> Still no go though
[21:28] <doritoDan> psychoticmeow: Alright, I'll check it out. Thanks.
[21:28] <DrPenguin> psychoticmeow: its - -.. my irc client is combining them
[21:29] <DrPenguin> !ot | jremi
[21:30] <psychoticmeow> Tried this: xrandr --output DFP5 -o RightOf DFP6
[21:30] <Teratogen> uhm, I never set a root password
[21:30] <Teratogen> how do I set a root password now?
[21:30] <pnorman> !root | Teratogen
[21:30] <DrPenguin> psychoticmeow: 	and?
[21:30] <mongy> Teratogen: its your users password
[21:31] <Teratogen> ok
[21:31] <psychoticmeow> Usage instructions
[21:31] <mongy> Teratogen: the first user created that is..
[21:31] <Flannel> mongy, Teratogen: The root password doesn't exist, the root account is locked.  To use sudo, you enter your user password, but this is not the "root password".
[21:31] <mongy> Teratogen: so assuming you are the first user created, you're good to go
[21:31] <psychoticmeow> xrandr --output DFP5 -right-of DFP6
[21:31] <psychoticmeow> No... :S
[21:31] <DrPenguin> THATS the syntax
[21:32] <psychoticmeow> Aha: xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 2970x1920 (desired size 3360x1050)
[21:32] <DrPenguin> xrandr —output DFP5 —right orleft-of DFP6
[21:32] <psychoticmeow> That size is not what I desire
[21:32] <DrPenguin> psychoticmeow: that is refering to your virtual screen size.. its too small (sorry about that, -o is for rotation)
[21:32] <psychoticmeow> Yes
[21:33] <psychoticmeow> my second screen is rotated right
[21:33] <DrPenguin> psychoticmeow: well thats because you have a rotation option in your X conf
[21:33] <psychoticmeow> So virtual screen should be 2970x1680
[21:34] <DrPenguin> psychoticmeow: no.. thats what your screen size is.. you need to make it bigger, 4096 2048 should be sufficient
[21:34] <Teratogen> mongy, thanks
[21:35] <psychoticmeow> Wait, why does it need to be bigger if it fits the two screens?
[21:36] <DrPenguin> psychoticmeow: your confusing screens. in X, you have somehting called a "Screen". this is an X screen that your monitors fit into. THAT needs to be enlarged
[21:36] <psychoticmeow> Yes, I was just pointing out that my monitors both fit into the current screen area
[21:36] <psychoticmeow> At least they would if rotated
[21:36] <DrPenguin> psychoticmeow: because its cloned. Clone is different
[21:36] <psychoticmeow> I'll increase it in xorg.conf
[21:37] <psychoticmeow> brb
[21:37] <hansg01> need help to configure vpn
[21:37] <hansg01> how to create one?
[21:38] <DrPenguin> thats not an Ubuntu related topic
[21:39] <PProvost> ssta: Node.js is server side
[21:39] <Kiten> !vpn | hansg01
[21:39] <hansg01> i need to know how to create one in ubuntu
[21:39] <psychoticmeow> DrPenguin, ok, xrandr ran that time
[21:39] <Agamemnus> Hello.
[21:39] <Agamemnus> I need some basic help.
[21:39] <Kiten> hansg01, look at what ubottu said
[21:39] <psychoticmeow> The display is still cloned though
[21:40] <pnorman> !ask | Agamemnus
[21:40] <DrPenguin> psychoticmeow: if you use xrandr —output DFP5 —right-of DFP6 it wont be
[21:40] <psychoticmeow> The only affect is that the mouse cursor only appears on one display
[21:40] <psychoticmeow> I ran: xrandr --output DFP5 --right-of DFP6
[21:40] <DrPenguin> psychoticmeow: thats a "bug" in X Server
[21:40] <Agamemnus> I'm trying to install the Freebasic compiler, and I followed the instructions, but I keep getting "bash: /usr/local/bin/fbc: No such file or directory"
[21:40] <Agamemnus> It must be some simple syntax issue left out of the instructions...
[21:41] <pnorman> Agamemnus: Where are the instructions you followed?
[21:41] <Agamemnus> They are here: http://www.freebasic.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=167909#p167909
[21:41] <Agamemnus> And here is what happens: http://www.freebasic.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=168662#p168662
[21:42] <Agamemnus> I don't know where the user/local/bin is or how to access it, either
[21:42] <Agamemnus> I'm flying blind.
[21:43] <Kiten> Agamemnus, its /usr/local/bin
[21:43] <hansg01> the gateway in pptp vpn is the pptp server?
[21:43] <Kiten> and it doesn't exist unless an application created it
[21:43] <sanman> Agamemnus: is /usr/local/bin in your $PATH?
[21:44] <Agamemnus> So, judging by the read-out here, did it?
[21:44] <Agamemnus> $PATH?
[21:44] <sanman> Agamemnus: echo $PATH
[21:44] <Kiten> hansg01, i'm pretty sure there is a channel for vpn questions try #vpn if that doesn't work the guys in #linux usually love talking about network stuff
[21:44] <Agamemnus> I'm kind of on Windows now. What is the significance of this?
[21:45] <hansg01> kiten: on freenode itself?
[21:45] <Kiten> yes
[21:45] <sanman> Agamemnus: why don't you try in #windows then?
[21:45] <Agamemnus> :|
[21:45] <DrPenguin> Agamemnus: its a basic OS thing. PATH defines where  your command interpreter looks when you issue a command to it
[21:45] <Agamemnus> I'm trying to install Freebasic in ubuntu.
[21:45]  * tyler_wylie read that as FreeBSD in Ubuntu.
[21:45] <Kiten> Kiten, i'm not proficient in networking so i can't really help you, i can do ftp servers(somewhat) and IRC
[21:45]  * tyler_wylie got excited and then let down.
[21:45] <Kiten> lol
[21:46] <Kiten> *hansg01,
[21:46] <Agamemnus> If I set $PATH to /user/local/bin will this work?
[21:46] <tyler_wylie> hansg01: What are you trying to do?
[21:46] <Agamemnus> I mean.. usr/local/bin
[21:46] <sanman> Agamemnus: you want to do "export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin"
[21:46] <Kiten> tyler_wylie, he's wanting to configure a vpn
[21:46] <DrPenguin> Agamemnus: you will break your system if you do that.. first check if thats in your path, if not you want to APPEND it not set it
[21:46] <sanman> Agamemnus: but that may not even fic your issue
[21:47] <hansg01> tyler_wylie: set up a uk vpn
[21:47] <tyler_wylie> Kiten: I see, trying to get more details about it
[21:47] <Kiten> DrPenguin, i've not fooled around with ENV's too much care to explain how to append ?
[21:47] <Agamemnus> I really have no clue. It tells me this:
[21:47] <Agamemnus> "Extracting ./FreeBASIC-0.23.0-linux.run into '/usr/local'...
[21:47] <Agamemnus> ok
[21:47] <tyler_wylie> hansg01: What kind of endpoints?
[21:47] <DrPenguin> Kiten: what sanmansaid will work
[21:47] <Agamemnus> Doesn't this mean that I have a /usr/local' already?
[21:47] <DrPenguin> Agamemnus: ofcourse you do
[21:47] <Kiten> DrPenguin, ahh thanks didn't see that
[21:47] <hansg01> tyler_wylie:i just have the pptp server,username and pass
[21:48] <DrPenguin> Kiten: thats the beauty of Strings in Bash, its very simple, you can concatenate by simply putting strings next to each other without a space separating
[21:48] <Agamemnus> what if I set the PATH to '/usr/local'? wouldn't that make more sense?
[21:48] <Agamemnus> Since that's where it got installed to?
[21:48] <tyler_wylie> hansg01: If you're in Ubuntu you should be able to set up a simple PPTP vpn with the NetworkManager tool, I believe there's a PPTP plugin as well so that you can create a new network in there.
[21:48] <sanman> Agamemnus: if you do that you will break things
[21:48] <Agamemnus> or should i go with "export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin"?
[21:48] <DrPenguin> Agamemnus: nope.. because it was extracted in there.. doesnt mean theres a binary in there
[21:49] <tyler_wylie> hansg01: I've got more experience with Cisco VPN but I know that I've been able to setup PPTP with NetworkManager before.
[21:49] <Agamemnus> Ok, how do I CD to usr/local again?
[21:49] <hansg01> tyler_wylie: i m there
[21:49] <Kiten> DrPenguin, yeah i've just not messed with ENV's alot because i've bricked a few really sweet setups
[21:49] <hansg01> tyler_wylie: the gateway = pptp server?
[21:49] <sanman> cd /usr/local/bin
[21:49] <tyler_wylie> hansg01: I went to edit connections, VPN tab, add, then select PPTP
[21:50] <Agamemnus> thanks
[21:50] <tyler_wylie> hansg01: Yes, the gateway will be the endpoint of your tunnel
[21:50] <shadfc> hey guys, i just upgrade to 11.10 and I had an existing software raid1 array.  I've got that working once I get into ubuntu, but it won't mount at boot.  I have to skip it because it "isn't available" or smth.  Any ideas?
[21:50] <hansg01> tyler_wylie: yeah done hat too
[21:50] <Agamemnus> i
[21:50] <Agamemnus> i'll be back :)
[21:50] <hansg01> tyler_wylie: and what abt NT domain?
[21:51] <Teratogen> it's strange to have a unix that doesn't have a root account
[21:51] <hansg01> tyler_wylie: i have inserted what i had for pptp server to gateway and username password to wht is there
[21:51] <tyler_wylie> hansg01: Is your PPTP end point a Windows box?
[21:51] <Teratogen> in Slackware the first thing I do when I open up a terminal is su root
[21:51] <ohadios> DrPenguin - can you give me the ppa again? I should've saved it...
[21:52] <tyler_wylie> THat's part of an Active Directory domain?
[21:52] <hansg01> hansg01: i am trying to connect bestukvpn.com
[21:52] <Teratogen> I guess Ubuntu is trying the protect the user from him or herself
[21:52] <tyler_wylie> hansg01: Unfortunately I'm not familiar with how their VPN setups work
[21:52] <draven> is it safe to delete files under /lib/modules?
[21:53] <hansg01> hansg01:oh
[21:53] <hansg01> hansg01:okay thank you!
[21:53] <tyler_wylie> hansg01: Under advanced you can specify which authentication method to use as well, I use mschap here but should try to grab as much information from them on configuration details for your VPN.
[21:53] <DrPenguin> ohadios: dont use the ppa, go to nvidia.com
[21:54] <ohadios> ok... though nvidia also has 290.10 as latest... not 297
[21:54] <DrPenguin> ohadios: its dependent on your video card.. an older card wont have the "latest" driver
[21:54] <raven> vlc - where to set the capturing dir?
[21:55] <BluesKaj> ohadios, use what nvidia recommends for your card
[21:55] <hansg01> hansg01: if you aren't busy  chck this for all the details i have http://www.bestukvpn.com/
[21:55] <sanman> draven: those are your kernel modules, I would recommend leaving them
[21:56] <tyler_wylie> hansg01: I am working on some alcatel lucent FTTU equipment atm so don't have much spare time
[21:56] <draven> sanman, they appear to have quite a back log of versions and i'm out of space due to packages
[21:56] <BluesKaj> ohadios, newest isn't always best
[21:56] <DrPenguin> draven: dont look to /lib/modules to clean your stuff out.. they arent all big
[21:56] <hansg01> tyler_wylie: okay thank you!
[21:58] <tyler_wylie> hansg01: Best of luck getting that setup
[21:59] <ohadios> BluesKaj, DrPenguin - Nvidia recommends 290.10... so im downloading it from their site. I know new is not always best, but old is flickering... (which is the original reason for me coming here :) )
[21:59] <DrPenguin> ohadios: is double buffering enabled in your X server?
[21:59] <ohadios> i'll check in a sec. how do i install the driver i downloaded from nvidia? its a .run file?
[22:00] <raven> vlc - where to set the capturing dir?
[22:00] <DrPenguin> ohadios: you need to kill X, sudo sh the .run file, and then turn X back on
[22:00] <who_me> ohadios: using the x-swat repo might be best than running the .run file :)
[22:00] <who_me> s/best/better
[22:00] <DrPenguin> who_me: id disagree there
[22:01] <Agamemnus> Hello again..
[22:01] <Agamemnus> Is there a website that has this channel running as a web-chat?
[22:01] <Agamemnus> I don't want to keep switching between Windows and Ubuntu
[22:01] <linxeh> Agamemnus: http://webchat.freenode.net/
[22:01] <Agamemnus> ah
[22:01] <linxeh> Agamemnus: but why not install an irc client in ubuntu and windows?
[22:02] <Agamemnus> terrible captcha, i'll never get it
[22:02] <Agamemnus> too lazy
[22:02] <who_me> unless you want to be dropped to console and have to rebuild your kernel module manually every time you get a kernel update
[22:02] <Agamemnus> Ok, so here's the problem now
[22:02] <DrPenguin> who_me: Thats how you get stuff done on Linux..
[22:02] <Agamemnus> I added the PATH as suggested
[22:02] <who_me> DrPenguin: there are simpler ways
[22:02] <Agamemnus> ("export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin")
[22:02] <DrPenguin> who_me: I prefer what is imo the "right" way
[22:02] <Agamemnus> It still doesn't work.
[22:03] <Agamemnus> I went to /usr/local/bin
[22:03] <DrPenguin> Agamemnus: what happens when you try to exec the compiler
[22:03] <Agamemnus> I did "dir", and there was a single entry: "fbc"
[22:03] <Agamemnus> I typed "fbc" and got "bash: /usr/local/bin/fbc: No such file or directory"
[22:03] <raven> vlc - where to set the capturing dir?
[22:03] <DrPenguin> Agamemnus: try which fbc
[22:04] <linxeh> Agamemnus: do ./fbc
[22:04] <Agamemnus> Ok, I'll try that, thanks.
[22:06] <BluesKaj> , Happy New Year All ! , see you next year :)
[22:06] <ohadios> Thanks for all your help BluesKaj
[22:06] <ohadios> damnit! missed him by that much
[22:07] <agamemnus> Ok, I'm on ubuntu
[22:07] <ohadios> well... updated to 290.10. restarting. Godspeed! (DrPenguin)
[22:07] <agamemnus> I tried ./fbc, and it still gives the same error
[22:07] <DrPenguin> agamemnus: which fbc
[22:07] <Qation> Will using fdisk to partition a disk with an OS already installed destroy the data or is there a way to perserve it?
[22:08] <agamemnus> it says:
[22:08] <DrPenguin> agamemnus: that means its not in your path
[22:08] <agamemnus> "/usr/local/bin/fbc"
[22:08] <DrPenguin> oh well that means it is in your path
[22:08] <agamemnus> I'm at "michael@ubuntu:usr/local/bin"
[22:08] <agamemnus> with the $
[22:08] <agamemnus> "michael@ubuntu:usr/local/bin$"
[22:08] <tyler_wylie> Then ./fbc should work...hmm
[22:09] <agamemnus> I get the same error
[22:09] <DrPenguin> agamemnus: can you get us the output of ls -l /usr/local/bin/fbc?
[22:09] <agamemnus> bash: ./fbc: No such file or directory
[22:09] <agamemnus> what do you mean?
[22:09] <auronandace> is fbc a directory?
[22:09] <agamemnus> oh, ls
[22:09] <agamemnus> ok
[22:09] <mongy> Qation: you can use it to make a partition with available free space, it will be ok
[22:09] <DrPenguin> auronandace: im verifying that now
[22:10] <agamemnus> "-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1497052 2011-08-06 18:51 /usr/local/bin/fbc"
[22:10] <auronandace> DrPenguin: good call
[22:10] <DrPenguin> ok thats not a directory..
[22:10] <sanman> agamemnus: try running it with the full path, "/usr/local/bin/fbc"
[22:10] <agamemnus> Same error.
[22:11] <DrPenguin> agamemnus: whats the output of $PATH
[22:11] <Flannel> agamemnus: Can you please pastebin the past few commands you've tried/output you've gotten?
[22:11] <agamemnus> "bash: /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games: No such file or directory"
[22:11] <Teratogen> sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[22:11] <agamemnus> Flannel: That's exactly what I'm doing :|
[22:11] <Teratogen> says not found
[22:11] <Teratogen> what am I doing wrong?
[22:11] <DrPenguin> agamemnus: thats good.. /usr/local/bin is in your path..
[22:11] <DrPenguin> Teratogen: is your repo synced?
[22:11] <Teratogen> using Ubuntu 11.10
[22:11] <ohadios> DrPenguin! 290.10 installed, system booted, flickering seems to be gone!!!
[22:11] <Teratogen> oh
[22:12] <Flannel> agamemnus: No, I meant copy a bunch of lines (10, 15, something like that), and then pasting them (all together) into paste.ubuntu.com
[22:12] <Teratogen> how do I sync my repo?
[22:12] <DrPenguin> ohadios: very good sir! :)
[22:12] <DrPenguin> Teratogen: sudo apt-get update
[22:12] <Teratogen> let me do that right now!
[22:12] <ohadios> DrPenguin now.... sound over HDMI is not working :( and video plays in funky hues
[22:12] <ohadios> ARGHH
[22:12] <Flannel> agamemnus: So we can see prompts, commands, and responses, all together.
[22:12] <agamemnus> Flannel: http://www.freebasic.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=168662#p168662
[22:12] <DrPenguin> ohadios: :(
[22:12] <agamemnus> This is what was supposed to have worked
[22:13] <agamemnus> I tried the install again, too.
[22:13] <Flannel> agamemnus: Yes, please pastebin the past few commands you've done here
[22:13] <ohadios> this is very frustrating... Don't want to go back to Windows -but it was so easy there.... and I really want to watch these videos!
[22:14] <ssta> wrong shebang maybe?
[22:14] <DrPenguin> ohadios: you may need to configure your X Server a bit.. working on an automagic configuration does not always give you the best results.. theres an nvidia config page from arch linux.. use that
[22:14] <ohadios> where do i find that?
[22:14] <agamemnus> :|
[22:14] <DrPenguin> ohadios: peruse the arch wiki, searching nvidia on it should result in what you want
[22:15] <Flannel> agamemnus: Are you on a 64bit OS right now?
[22:16] <sanman> agamemnus: give us the output of "uname -a" then "file /usr/local/bin/fbc"
[22:16] <agamemnus> I'm on Ubuntu 64-bit, I think.
[22:17] <angela-> hello i have ngircd running now but its not configgert yet
[22:17] <agamemnus> Linux ubuntu 3.0.0-12-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 7 14:56:25 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:17] <mongy> ohadios: try installing/using pavcontrol and see if you can choose your device as output.
[22:17] <agamemnus> usr/local/bin/fbc: ERROR: cannot open `usr/local/bin/fbc' (No such file or directory)
[22:17] <DrPenguin> O_o? why does x86_64 repeat in your output? thats weird
[22:17] <mongy> agamemnus: you are.
[22:17] <ssta>  leading / missing agamemnus
[22:17] <agamemnus> three times
[22:17] <DrPenguin> agamemnus: file /usr/local/bin/fbc
[22:18] <sanman> agamemnus: the leading / is important
[22:18] <agamemnus> "/usr/local/bin/fbc: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.4, stripped"
[22:18] <Flannel> agamemnus: The above errors are why I asked for a pastebin of commans/responses.
[22:18] <Flannel> agamemnus: You'll want to install ia32-libs
[22:18] <agamemnus> I was getting to that, Flannel :)
[22:18] <agamemnus> What is ia32-libs?
[22:18] <Flannel> agamemnus: OR better yet, find a FreeBasic that's built for 64bit
[22:18] <sanman> agamemnus: or you could see if the software you are tyring to use comes in a 64 bit version
[22:18] <DrPenguin> agamemnus: 32bit compat libraries for 64bit os
[22:18] <agamemnus> There isn't one.
[22:19] <ssta> it's 32bit only
[22:19] <agamemnus> So the whole thing is because I'm trying to run a 32-bit program on a 64-bit OS?
[22:19] <sanman> agamemnus: run this: "ldd /usr/local/bin/fbc"
[22:20] <DrPenguin> agamemnus: im skeptical tho.. the error your getting doesnt correspond with an architecture error
[22:20] <sanman> agamemnus: does it tell you it can't find any libraries?
[22:20] <agamemnus> sanman: "not a dynamic executable"
[22:20] <sanman> well, that's interesting
[22:21] <sanman> can you build fbc from source?
[22:21] <Teratogen> ok
[22:21] <Teratogen> got wireless working
[22:21] <Teratogen> thanks all
[22:21] <agamemnus> Well I was told that I would have troubles with a 64-bit OS, but I didn't know I couldn't do anything at all with it
[22:21] <agamemnus> I probably could, but I don't know how
[22:21] <DrPenguin> agamemnus: the source balls usually come with README's
[22:21] <ohadios> how do i check what version of the driver is actually being used?
[22:21] <Teratogen> DrPenguin, mongy, and others
[22:22] <DrPenguin> ohadios: Xorg.0.log will tell you
[22:22] <Flannel> agamemnus: This is really a 'problem' with FreeBasic, not the OS.
[22:22] <agamemnus> so, 32-bit programs can't be run by 64-bit Ubuntu?
[22:22] <benbloom> is there a way to find out what the specs on my PCIe graphics card are without opening up the computer?
[22:22] <sanman> agamemnus: if they are built correctly they can be
[22:23] <ant30> hey, Happy new year for Ubuntu World
[22:23] <sanman> agamemnus: this is a problem with the distribution of the software
[22:23] <Teratogen> benbloom, lspci ?
[22:23] <ssta> agamemnus: they can.  Install ia32-libs
[22:23] <angela-> how do i enther the config file of ngircd i have it running now?
[22:23] <benbloom> right Teratogen
[22:23] <agamemnus> How do I install ia32-libs?
[22:23] <sanman> agamemnus: apt-get install ia32-libs
[22:23] <ssta> agamemnus: apt-get install ia32-libs
[22:23] <sanman> agamemnus: sorry, sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[22:23] <ssta> umm, sudo in there too
[22:23] <robbbie> anyone with an apple magicmouse or some sort of trackpad able to mimic osx touch gestures in ubuntu??
[22:23] <ohadios> uhm
[22:24] <agamemnus> it's doing something :D
[22:24] <ohadios> It's still running 173??
[22:24] <OliveGreen> Hi all.
[22:24] <sanman> hi
[22:24] <samruger> im having trouble using gnome3 shell in 11.10. all the images are all broken and screwed up and im having trouble finding a fix on googlel
[22:24] <ohadios> I think I know what I did wrong...
[22:24] <OliveGreen> First of all, happy new year everyone! :-)
[22:25] <robbbie> samruger: i had a similar problem with nautilus, just running 'killall nautilus' solved the problem once i started it back up.
[22:25] <agamemnus> Happy new year, OliveGreen.
[22:25] <agamemnus> Ok, I ran it.
[22:25] <agamemnus> WOW
[22:25] <agamemnus> it works!
[22:25] <agamemnus> :D:D:D:D:D:D
[22:26] <agamemnus> Thanks, guys!
[22:26] <sanman> you're welcome
[22:26] <ssta> strange error to get for an arch issue.
[22:26] <sanman> I agree
[22:27] <Teratogen> by the way, I am using Ubuntu 11.10
[22:27] <Teratogen> is that the latest?
[22:27] <ssta> latest stable, yes
[22:27] <OliveGreen> Secondly, I'm having a very annoying problem with my mouse (curson, actually). It freezes eventually (as in stops moving at all that I have reboot to get it to work again). Is there any command which can sort fix it or something?
[22:27] <agamemnus> wanted to try compiling but ubuntu is not reading all the partitions, so i'll be back again..
[22:28] <ohadios> YEAH! DrPenguin! Running 290.10, sound working, no flickering! the world is GREAT
[22:28] <OliveGreen> ohadios, congrats. :)
[22:29] <ohadios> DAMNIT
[22:29] <ohadios> Spoke too soon
[22:29] <ohadios> still flickering
[22:29] <samruger> robbbie,  i killed nautilis and started it again but it didnt do anything
[22:29] <DrPenguin> >_>;… ohadios can I see your log?
[22:29] <ohadios> yes you may
[22:29] <ohadios> one sec
[22:29] <benbloom> so Teratogen http://paste.ubuntu.com/789228/ is the ATI RS690M my video card? I thought that was the builtin
[22:30] <ohadios> DrPenguin http://paste.ubuntu.com/789230/
[22:30] <Teratogen> looks like it, benbloom!
[22:32] <DrPenguin> ohadios: looks like your issue is related to your GPU's powermizer settings.. can you open up nvidia-settings? the powermizer settings should be in there
[22:32] <ohadios> im there
[22:32] <ohadios> what am i looking for? there's nothing editable there.
[22:32] <DrPenguin> you basically wanna prevent any power saving features in the GPU
[22:33] <Teratogen> benbloom, you have a notebook, or a tower, or what?
[22:33] <ohadios> i cant find any way to disable it
[22:33] <Teratogen> I think the ATI would be the chipset on your motherboard
[22:33] <Teratogen> do you have a video card installed?
[22:33] <benbloom> Teratogen: i just realized i ran lspci on the wrong terminal. i figured out
[22:33] <Teratogen> oh
[22:33] <Teratogen> so did you find the info you needed?
[22:33] <benbloom> ty for the followup
[22:34] <benbloom> yup
[22:34] <Teratogen> I was just thinking if you have a video chipset on the motherboard and you also have a video card installed you might have to go into the bios and disable the motherboard video, is all
[22:34] <DrPenguin> ohadios: check this out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=828369
[22:35] <benbloom> im trying to figure out if my cord will support 3 video outputs. the card has VGA DVI and HDMI
[22:35] <benbloom> I want to clone my DVI screen onto the HDMI screen but I'm not sure my hw will support it
[22:39] <slakcphil> hey all! have a happy new year!
[22:44] <ohadios> DrPenguin - seems like that works!
[22:45] <agamemnus> Hi again.
[22:45] <ohadios> I really appreciate all your help here today! I know it wasn't as simple as "restart the machine, you idiot"...
[22:45] <agamemnus> I still have a few issues
[22:45] <ohadios> I really appreciate all your help here today! I know it wasn't as simple as "restart the machine, you idiot"...  (DrPenguin)
[22:45] <ohadios> gotta go shower now... good buy everyone
[22:45] <agamemnus> It's saying, for instance, "ld: cannot find -lgcc"
[22:46] <DrPenguin> ohadios: its np
[22:46] <agamemnus> I tried "sudo apt-get install libgcc-dev" but it's not working
[22:46] <agamemnus> I know it's something trivial..
[22:47] <caffine> how do i find the /dev device to which a usb device has been bound? apparently, usbcore registered my device with snd-usb-audio, but i'm not sure where or how to find it to use on the command line with mplayer. i can see the video at /dev/video0 but don't know where to find the audio. here are the relevant entries from dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/789239/  and here's lsusb:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/789240/
[22:48] <grendal-prime> anyone running 10.04 on a dell latitude d610
[22:48] <agamemnus> What is the format for getting gcc for instance?
[22:48] <cypher-neo> grendal-prime, I'm not. Are you?
[22:48] <grendal-prime> agamemnus, apt-get install gcc
[22:49] <agamemnus> i don't think that's it
[22:49] <grendal-prime> cypher-neo,   might be...well if someone cant tell me about what to expect on it.
[22:49] <agamemnus> or,
[22:49] <agamemnus> that's not the right gcc
[22:49] <benbloom> so. would it be possible to run my two monitors off my PCIe gfx card and then a third off the built in HDMI output?
[22:49] <SoulShadow> benbloom: doubtful
[22:49] <ssta> benbloom: depends on your BIOS.  Some turn off the onboard when you have a PCIx
[22:50] <SoulShadow> most*
[22:50] <cypher-neo> grendal-prime, It will run like every other laptop that runs Ubuntu Linux. Just fine, usually, barring any hardware problems unique to your machine.
[22:50] <RobinJ> HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!! (in 10 minutes :p)
[22:50] <grendal-prime> ya, i would like compiz to work is the biggie
[22:50] <SoulShadow> as long as it doesn't have BCM4311
[22:50] <RobinJ> WHOOHOO FIREWORKS IM GONE
[22:50] <SoulShadow> :D
[22:50] <cypher-neo> grendal-prime, What would you like to know specifically?
[22:50] <ubluntu> benbloom: you can specify certian busID's for devices if you make an xorg.conf
[22:50] <grendal-prime> compiz...or..whatevery they call it now..."desktop effects" i guess
[22:51] <cypher-neo> grendal-prime, It's still called Compiz, and yes it runs on Dell.
[22:51] <grendal-prime> everythign i google on it is of course old and...well you know im thinking ati drives for it may be better.
[22:51] <benbloom> ubluntu: is it possible to override the BIOS with xorg.conf?
[22:51] <bencc> what is the command to add a new apt-key?
[22:51] <grendal-prime> not all cypher-neo my mini 10's dont run it
[22:52] <ubluntu> benbloom: no. use lspci to see if all your devices show up
[22:52] <bencc> this page http://erlyvideo.org/doc/installation#s1 says: wget -q -O - http://debian.erlyvideo.org/binary/gpg.key | apt-key add -
[22:52] <caffine> here's what i'm trying to do and how it's failing:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/789241/
[22:52] <bencc> but I'm getting an error
[22:52] <cypher-neo> bencc, "apt-key add"
[22:53] <ssta> bencc: what error?
[22:53] <bencc> gpg: can't open `': No such file or directory
[22:53] <agamemnus> If I get "ld: cannot find -lgcc", how do I fix this?
[22:53] <gerinych> can someone suggest me any software that can be used to sync a folder with a samba share?
[22:53] <agamemnus> (this is a compiler message)
[22:54] <benbloom> ubluntu: unsure. i think not, but here's my lspci: http://paste.ubuntu.com/789245/
[22:54] <grendal-prime> cypher-neo, i found some on ebay cheep..(relatively) though i Might pick some up to resale with support fees.
[22:54] <bencc> ssta: gpg: can't open `': No such file or directory
[22:54] <cypher-neo> grendal-prime, Have you tried booting said Dell d610 with a Live CD? You will know almost immediately if compiz works or not.
[22:54] <benbloom> it's not listed as a VGA compat dev
[22:54] <cypher-neo> grendal-prime, Having a graphics card is always preferable. :)
[22:54] <grendal-prime> i dont physically have one in my possesion
[22:55] <ssta> benbloom: try it with  " ... |sudo apt-key add -"
[22:55] <bencc> cypher-neo: how can I tell if the key at http://debian.erlyvideo.org/binary/gpg.key is ok?
[22:55] <ubluntu> benbloom: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT218 [GeForce 210] (rev a2)  looks like your onboard is disable
[22:55] <grendal-prime> cypher-neo,  ya no kidding...even then though ive run into problems.
[22:55] <cypher-neo> grendal-prime, What kind of problems?
[22:55] <grendal-prime> not so much anymore these days..but older equipent...pain.
[22:55] <bencc> ssta: works. thanks
[22:56] <bencc> cypher-neo: works thanks
[22:56] <agamemnus> oh well, maybe later
[22:56] <benbloom> not sure what you mean ssta
[22:56] <ssta> benbloom: sorry, was a nick completion fubar
[22:56] <benbloom> lol. thought i tmight be ssta
[22:57] <k4r1m> I'm having an issue with gnoem3, its installed and so as the shell theme but it loading up the old classic theme and not shell for some reason, also there is no themes to select in the gnome tweak tool.. any ideas?
[22:57] <benbloom> thanks for looking ubluntu. that is how i read it as well
[22:57] <ubluntu> benbloom: so you need to enable it in bios.
[22:57] <yumbo> Happy new year everyone :)
[22:57] <benbloom> if that's even possibe ubluntu
[22:57] <ubluntu> benbloom: I don't see why not ?
[22:58] <ssta> it's often not
[22:58] <robin0800> k4r1m: install gnome-themes-standard
[22:58] <ubluntu> ic my bios has options for. enable if no peg. and enable always
[22:59] <ubluntu> running 2 monitors on one x screen with no xinerama my self
[22:59] <k4r1m> robin0800: already installed
[23:00] <benbloom> i'll look into it. I'm hoping to clone my 1080p monitor via HDMI
[23:00] <bencc> ssta: the line of the sources list looks wrong: echo "deb http://debian.erlyvideo.org binary/" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:01] <robin0800> k4r1m: on log in screen think gnome shell is just gnome but needs even more resources than unity
[23:01] <ssta> bencc: it's legal
[23:01] <k4r1m> I don't resources is the problem… got plenty
[23:02] <ssta> well, pretty sure it is
[23:02] <bencc> ok. trying again
[23:02] <k4r1m> robin0800: I did get gdm to load up fine
[23:03] <Teratogen> wait, what if I WANT a root account?
[23:03] <robin0800> k4r1m: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[23:03] <ssta> well, you can set it up if you want.  What do you want one for?
[23:04] <Teratogen> I like being root
[23:04] <Teratogen> =)
[23:04] <k4r1m> robin0800: 11.10
[23:04] <Teratogen> what is Unix without root!?
[23:04] <ssta> the root account is still there.  It's just not enabled for login.  You can use "sudo -i" if you like
[23:04] <benbloom> one word Teratogen/ sudo
[23:04] <ssta>  or enable root
[23:04] <robin0800> k4r1m: well its lightdm not gdm in 11.10
[23:05] <hot2trot> can anyone tell me where I put .desktop file to make my windows manager come up in ubuntu gdm?
[23:05] <k4r1m> robin0800: I reconfigured it.
[23:05] <hot2trot> it's apparently NOT /usr/share/sessions
[23:05] <Teratogen> ssta, I can understand Ubuntu's philosophy of wanting to protect the unsophisticated user from him/herself
[23:05] <Teratogen> but it is just natural for me to su root whenever I bring up a term in Slackware
[23:05] <k4r1m> robin0800: also I just tried installing a few themes from webupd8 but they are not showing up in the tweak tool
[23:05] <ssta> Teratogen: so do that.  It's not hard to enable it
[23:06] <Teratogen> well, not on this laptop
[23:06] <Teratogen> err, notebook
[23:06] <Teratogen> which I am setting up for a friend
[23:06] <robin0800> k4r1m: you have to restart the shell to see them
[23:06] <xxiao> wonder why spidermonkey is not in lucid...
[23:06] <Teratogen> but if I decided to switch from Slackware to Ubuntu as my major distro, I will definitely want to have root
[23:06] <Teratogen> s/decided/decide/
[23:07] <k4r1m> robin0800: I did.. numerous times
[23:07] <ssta> fine.  That's your choice.  It's easy to enable if that's what you want to do...
[23:07] <k4r1m> I'm going to try changint he themes via gsettings
[23:08] <robin0800> k4r1m: think you need dconf editor for that
[23:08] <hot2trot> the directory /usr/share/sessions does not exist on my 10.04 install... where can I put ratpoison.desktop so it shows up in my gdm options?
[23:08] <k4r1m> weird it worked but it changed the theme something weird and old
[23:09] <pnorman> sudo handles 95% of what you need, sudo -i handles another 4.5%, and for the remaining uses, someone doing them should know how to enable root anyways
[23:09] <benbloom> Teratogen: all you have to do is 'passwd' to enable su
[23:09] <aBound> sudo su to enable root. :P
[23:09] <benbloom> well u have to set the password first dont you aBound?
[23:09] <k4r1m> I can change the windows theme but not the shell theme since nothing is showing up… to be more clear
[23:10] <aBound> benbloom, More or less enter the password after the command.
[23:10] <richtroye> Hi, just installled ocelot, I would like to increase my number of workspaces, from the default 4 to what I usually use, 12
[23:10] <k4r1m> robin0800: I don't think gnome-shell is loaded haha
[23:10] <haso> Teratogen: sudo  bash is the trick..
[23:11] <richtroye> Any suggestions for doing that?  The tweak tool doesn't seem to have the option though that tool did let me do focus follows mouse
[23:11] <aBound> richardwhiuk, Install the compizconfig manager from within software center.
[23:11] <richtroye> k4r1m I shouldn't need gnome-shell for doing that.
[23:11] <Maverick> @richtroye, do you have compiz settings manager installed?
[23:11] <richtroye> thanks, aBound
[23:11] <k4r1m> richtroye: what?
[23:11] <robin0800> k4r1m: no shell or extensions or shell themes if you are not in gnome shell
[23:12] <richtroye> And yet compiz has seemed to dislike and / or ignore my going beyond 4 workspaces before
[23:12] <k4r1m> why is gnome- shell not loading then? any way to manually run it
[23:12] <aBound> richardwhiuk, No problem afterwards click on the Unity plugin and go to work
[23:12] <richtroye> Still, I'll do it
[23:12] <aBound> richtroye, No problem.
[23:13] <robin0800> k4r1m: is it in the log in screen list
[23:15] <k4r1m> there is 3 selections in the login screen GNOME, GNOME Classic and GNOME Classic no effects
[23:15] <k4r1m> I'm using just "GNOME", am I suppose to see GNOME  Shell or something?
[23:15] <robin0800> k4r1m: gnome is the gnome shell
[23:16] <k4r1m> that's what I'm using but no shell is loaded
[23:16] <k4r1m> just goes to the old gnome style
[23:16] <aBound> k4r1m, Did you install gnome-shell?
[23:16] <k4r1m> ofcourse
[23:17] <robin0800> k4r1m: if you don't see it it is probably crashing as gnome classic is a fallback
[23:17] <k4r1m> hmm video drivers maybe?
[23:17] <Fudge> hi how can i use aptitude to hold a package from being upgraded?
[23:18] <k4r1m> or is there to load it from the terminal and see the errors?
[23:18] <mongy> Fudge: aptitude hold package
[23:18] <robin0800> k4r1m: yes try that
[23:18] <k4r1m> how lol?
[23:19] <Fudge> ok mongy  it still appears in the list of packages to be upgraded, is that expected?
[23:19] <robin0800> k4r1m: try gnome-shell
[23:20] <k4r1m> window manager error: unabe to initalize clutter
[23:20] <k4r1m> I might of forgot to install video drivers 1 sec
[23:21] <robin0800> k4r1m: shell uses clutter instead of compiz or metacity and of course different resources
[23:21] <aBound> I thought gnome-shell used mutter.
[23:21] <richtroye> abound Okay compizconfig is installed.  Bringing it up, I don't see anything about workspaces.  Do you have a suggestion?
[23:22] <k4r1m> robin0800: yeah i think thats the problem, im installing the dirvers right now
[23:22] <ivanatwork> HAPPY NEW YEAR !
[23:23] <aBound> richtroye, Yes sir.
[23:23] <k4r1m> also was wondering whats a good way to benchmark hd write speed since the disk utility is only capable of benching read speeds
[23:23] <aBound> richtroye, Go to general options >> desktop size
[23:23] <Autie> Happy New Year from #Belgium to all people
[23:24] <ivanatwork> Autie, Italy here
[23:24] <Autie> same timezone :)
[23:24] <ivanatwork> lol yes
[23:24] <mongy> k4r1m:  dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=64k count=16k conv=fdatasync is what I use to test my vps speed
[23:24] <robin0800> not new year in gmt land yet
[23:24] <richtroye> abound thanks, I did go there and set number of desktops to 12 but it had been 1 before, and horiz to 4 and vert to 3.  No change.  Though number had been 1 still had (and have) 4 *workspaces*.
[23:25] <richtroye> If you'd like me to log off / on say the word, maybe that'll fix it.
[23:25] <mongy> Fudge: did you 'update' as well ?  I have used aptitude before and hold works
[23:25] <milo_> Hey everybody
[23:25] <Fudge> ill try mongy
[23:25] <ivanatwork> milo ;)
[23:26] <aBound> richtroye, If you're using gnome-shell it isn't supported by it. But if you use Unity you can use compiz.
[23:26] <aBound> richtroye, Make sure you're using unity and the Ubuntu unity plugin.
[23:27] <aBound> richtroye, To check press the Windows key + S. Then check how many workspaces you have.
[23:27] <k4r1m> hmm after installing the recommended nvidia drivers my system is just hanging on boot now, I cant really see any errors all I see is the system stops
[23:27] <Fudge> still appears though mongy  i might have to pin it
[23:27] <richtroye> I had it working on fedora 16 in the gnome fallback mode.
[23:27] <richtroye> Hm, windows + 5 gives Libreoffice
[23:28] <richtroye> Perhaps windows + F5 ?
[23:28] <aBound> k4r1m, Could be a lightdm bug. But to get a terminal hit ctrl-alt-f1.
[23:28] <k4r1m> aBound: and load gdm?
[23:28] <milo_> Hey, does anybody have experience with getting Broadcom integrated wireless to work under Kubuntu?
[23:29] <aBound> richtroye, Windows key + S will show the workspaces unless you changed the default. Or if you're using 10.04 LTS might be different.
[23:29] <aBound> k4r1m, Sure or type startx to load your desktop.
[23:29] <html> hi
[23:30] <aBound> k4r1m, nVidia drivers are kinda buggy with lightdm I noticed even if you changed your grub file on 11.10 it might act up.
[23:30] <richtroye> Oh, sorry, I did 5 not S.  windows + s shows me the four workspaces, same as clicking the workspaces icon
[23:30] <k4r1m> aBound: and the fact that I have a 460 makes things worst
[23:30] <shawn1> Ubuntu is detecting only one of my GTX 295 cores.  Does anyone know how I can get it to detect both cores?
[23:30] <aBound> k4r1m, You could also load lightdm too.
[23:30] <aBound> :P
[23:30] <mongy> Fudge: try keep
[23:30] <Fudge> okey
[23:31] <k4r1m> aBound: thanks gdm is loading by default now
[23:31] <aBound> k4r1m, sudo service lightdm start.
[23:31] <k4r1m> aBound: I just used dpkg-reconfigure gdm ;)
[23:31] <k4r1m> awesome shell is loading now thanks guys!
[23:31] <aBound> No problem isn't much of a fix but maybe in 12.04 they will fix a few issues.
[23:32] <aBound> k4r1m,  I have an nVidia 1.5GB 580 GTXM and it still had the same issue like you and my system is only about a week old.
[23:33] <aBound> Seems like lightdm is just buggy at the moment it is still relatively new.
[23:33] <jrib> In oneiric on a macbook 4,1, « xset s activate » does not turn off the backlight; it just reduces brightness to a minumum.  How can I make it turn off the backlight?  (Yes, I've executed « xset s blank »)
[23:33] <jrib> milo_: just use jockey to install the drivers
[23:34] <Fudge> how can i open system settings from the dash or run box, i cant get orca to read the launcher
[23:34] <k4r1m> mongy: that doesn't seem to be verry accurate, it's giving me 107 Mb/s… I have a SATA3 SSD my system is booting in about 7 seconds that doesn't make sense
[23:34] <aBound> Even though it was released in Sept 2010. :P
[23:34] <html> how do i clone my ubuntu and move it to a different machine ?
[23:34] <k4r1m> html: dd :D ?
[23:35] <html> huh?? whats that?
[23:35] <html> k4r1m,  what?
[23:36] <k4r1m> html: you are trying to clone your hd right?
[23:36] <html> well yes
[23:37] <k4r1m> connect the other hard drive and use dd
[23:37] <ssta> !clone |html
[23:38] <html> html | automate
[23:38] <html> !html | automate
[23:38] <mayyin1> Fudge: gnome-control-center
[23:38] <k4r1m> ssta: I think he wants to clone his complete hard disk not just  packages
[23:38] <ssta> ah....that's trickier
[23:38] <html> !automate
[23:39] <ubluntu> not really its very easy like k4r1m said use dd
[23:39] <ShadowE9899> data destroyer dd :)
[23:39] <Fudge> mayyin1  that's the ticket thanx heaps
[23:40] <mongy> k4r1m: well dude, that's what I use to test speeds of disksw
[23:40] <tjiggi_fo> k4r1m, he didn't ask to clone his HDD - his original question was: [18:34] <html> how do i clone my ubuntu and move it to a different machine ?
[23:40] <mongy> disks*
[23:42] <sundiver1> http://www.anno1777.com/index.php?i=122128
[23:42] <sundiver1> http://www.anno1777.com/index.php?i=122128
[23:44] <IvoryZion> Where can I find the latest version of a package for any version of Ubuntu?
[23:44] <html> how do i clone my ubuntu and move it to a different machine ??
[23:45] <mongy> html: clonezilla
[23:45] <pythonirc101> I'm running ubuntu with 2 monitors, and both my monitors just copy the same thing. How can I fix this?
[23:45] <html> can i use it with windows to?
[23:45] <willwork4foo> pythonirc101: check in settings for mirroring. Turn it off.
[23:46] <willwork4foo> pythonirc101: display settings
[23:46] <mikere> pythonirc101: if you are using nvidia drivers, then just chnage the settings in Nvidia Xserver Settings (in System--> Administration)
[23:46] <mongy> html: it's a livecd/liveusb you boot into
[23:47] <mongy> html: it backs up disks/partitions of any format
[23:48] <mikere> of course with linux you can just use dd to backup a drive, but it's not really for the faint of heart
[23:48] <Guest34210> any  at&t user recommend na adsl modem?
[23:48] <shawn1> Sorry
[23:48] <shawn1> my computer just crashed
[23:48] <shawn1> I'm using the GTX 295 for CUDA
[23:48] <shawn1> and it was ending a work unit
[23:49] <mongy> dd copies every used and unused byte
[23:49] <shawn1> like I said, only one core seems to be detected
[23:49] <mikere> nothing like an exact copy =)
[23:49] <mongy> dd is a nice tool, but for partition images, no really
[23:49] <pythonirc101> mikere: is there a system command for it?
[23:49] <robin0800> html: in ubuntu 11.10 there is a backup tool
[23:50] <ShadowE9899> dd, thats the command
[23:50] <mongy> mikere: I personally don't want an exact copy since my other comp has a larger drive.. I don't need it to make that partition smaller
[23:50] <mikere> pythonirc101: just use that live cd mongy recommended or robin0800's suggestion - dd really isn't the best idea
[23:51] <pythonirc101> just need to know how to do this using command line -- http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/08/ubuntu-tips-how-to-setup-dual-monitor/
[23:51] <ssta> mongy: do a clean install, clone the packages installed, and backup /home (should be fine for most use cases)
[23:51] <mikere> mongy: I wasn't really suggesting it as a good solution - just that it's a possibility
[23:51] <html> robin0800,  im on 10.10 , and i hear its a bit slow for my atom powered netbook
[23:51] <mongy> mikere:  I welcome all suggestions, but this aint for me
[23:52] <pythonirc101> willwork4foo: is there a command line utility that will call display settings?
[23:52] <MaxHR> Can someone please tell me how to update the security certs?
[23:52] <MaxHR> http://paste.ubuntu.com/789249/
[23:53] <willwork4foo> pythonirc101: not sure on ubuntu - I'm mainly a Solaris guy
[23:53] <mongy> have to go do that 'new year ritual' in about 8 mins
[23:53] <MaxHR> I get that message on some webistes, and also a similar message when trying to install new packages
[23:53] <mikere> pythonirc101: here's a link to someone's idea of command line backup for linux: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
[23:53] <pythonirc101> mikere: you are confusing me with someone else
[23:53] <ubluntu> pythonirc101: what do you want to displau exactly ?
[23:54] <pythonirc101> I need help setting up a dual monitor-- currently my two monitors just mirror each other
[23:54] <robin0800> !clone | html
[23:54] <pythonirc101> I'm on some kind of gnome, that does not have system-> display settings
[23:54] <html> robin0800,  but thanks
[23:54] <ssta> mikere: note that's old...these days a system is often tens or hundreds of gigabytes.  That solution doesn't scale all that well
[23:54] <ubluntu> pythonirc101: do you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[23:55] <pythonirc101> yes
[23:55] <ubluntu> pythonirc101: can you put it on pastebin
[23:56] <pythonirc101> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/528283/
[23:56] <shawn1> ....crashed again....
[23:56] <Chr|s> How do I install the latest amd graphic drivers?
[23:57] <mongy> Chr|s: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide#Installing_Catalyst_Manually_.28from_AMD.2FATI.27s_site.29
[23:57] <shawn1> in fact, the NVIDIA X Server Settings only recognizes one core
[23:57] <ubluntu> pythonirc101: this is some sort of virtualization ?
[23:57] <pythonirc101> yes, its running inside virtual box
[23:57] <vsync_> mmm
[23:58] <vsync_> shawn1 I had similar problems with my 295 GTX for ~2 years
[23:58] <shawn1> did you ever find a solution?
[23:58] <vsync_> Are you getting NVIDIA WAIT 1,6 and 2,6 (or similar) in xorglog?
[23:59] <shawn1> uhmm....where's xorglog?
[23:59] <vsync_> also, in kern.log are you getting "GPU at (xxx) has fallen off the bus. ?
[23:59] <ubluntu> pythonirc101: well if you want seperate screens you can make new monitor and screen sections using monitor 1 instead of 0.
[23:59] <shawn1> is that in /etc/X11?
[23:59] <Chr|s> mongy, thanks
[23:59] <vsync_> well /var/log/Xorg.0.log ... but in your case you might wanna check /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[23:59] <ubluntu> pythonirc101: keep the 0 parts but make new ones for 1 also do you know what I mean ?