=== Alcine is now known as jalcine === jalcine is now known as jalcine_ === jalcine_ is now known as jalcine === Alcine is now known as jalcine === jalcine is now known as JackyAlcine === JackyAlcine is now known as jalcine === jalcine is now known as JackyAlcine === JackyAlcine is now known as jalcine [04:12] Hey guys! I think i've picked out this to be my distro of choice, was wondering if i could toss a few questions? [04:22] Bunie: start at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ and then feel free to ask [04:22] ;9 [04:23] Mostly just, 4GB of ram, and worried about the scarcity of linux drivers. should i go with a 32 or 64 bit build? [04:24] 4gb is FAR too much for lubuntu :P [04:25] 64bit build 11.10 can handle the amount [04:27] Bunie: i know, as i several VM's for different sytems within Lubuntu [04:27] I know its too much ram [04:27] its my graphics card that concerns me [04:27] its a slow peice of crap that struggles with minecraft [04:28] i figured the less window animations, the better. besides, i like the look :P [04:28] Lubuntu is more about ram and not about conserving CPU? [04:29] Bunie: lubuntu consers both, you would have to aks others as to the minimal spec for minecraft [04:32] lol that was just an example to show how poor my graphics card is :P [04:32] if you /join #minecraft they will tell you if your computer has the specs to play it. We on lubuntu ensure that the O/S is the minimal required to work. What you boys and girls add to it later, we cannot control :) [04:55] you can never have too much RAM :) [04:58] No such thing as too much RAM, too much disk space, or too much VRAM. [05:48] Im having issues with my wireless :3 keep in mind im a noobie so i could very well have no idea what im doin :p [05:48] i used a wired connection to install the "Additional drivers" [05:48] but still having no luck from here [05:50] Bunie: what version of lubuntu do you have installed? [05:50] 11.04? [05:50] also, new issue xD feel free to call me a dumbass. i was using a persistant usb version [05:50] and ran apt-get upgrade [05:51] now its asking for a user and pass that i didnt set up. [05:51] whats the defaults? XD [05:51] i tried root root, and root toor [05:53] Bunie: have you tried i.e. just hit the big Return / Enter button for both? [05:53] yep [05:53] leaving it blank does nothing [05:53] will i need to recopy my usb and not upgrade this time? lol [05:53] using a live usb and updating is not advised [05:54] the support for usb, as opposed to a full install is tenuous [05:55] if you want to use a usb device, it should be above 2GB to allow it have /home partioin [05:55] ill recopy it and not upgrade. was using it as a way to test before i do a full install [05:55] wanted to try to upgrade cuz i was having some bug where the screensaver would pop up after like 5 minutes even when i was using it [05:56] Bunie: when you do decide to install lubuntu, or any linux system, can I whisper a word of advice to you? [05:56] Sure thing :D [05:56] assuming its friendly ;D [05:58] make a /home partition, that way, what ever you do to with your installed system, /home will always be safe unless you decide to allow the installer to nuke your hard drive.... [06:00] Bunie: on this you may trust me, then ask any support person.... We love people who actually do it... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving [06:00] We hate those who encrypt.... nothing can rescue them. [06:06] that's the point :) [06:10] micahg: unless you are the support person for a n00b to linux who did it with all his college work on and forgot the password. [06:11] micahg: next time we have one, I'll send her to you. [06:11] I can't do anything, but just noting, that's the point of encryption [06:12] micahg: this chat is better carried out on #lubuntu-offtopic [06:17] How do i connect to a wireless network? [06:17] :p [06:22] Also, when using a persistant cache created by like, Lili USB, does that work with drivers? [07:15] hi i need help installing lubuntu from USB [07:19] HELLO? === |2012| is now known as MH0 [11:45] :p [15:13] hello [16:21] <]Spectre[> Hi [16:49] hi [16:53] in the lubuntu installer, why is the guy listening to music and watching a movie trailer at the same time? Weirdo~ Lols [16:54] i see pidgin is included? with all respect, doesnt pidgin suck now? [16:57] <]Spectre[> why... if it works.. [16:57] <]Spectre[> when a thing works why to change it.. [16:58] If thats how you feel, go back to windows? [16:58] :P [16:58] <]Spectre[> ahahah [16:59] <]Spectre[> I told "if it works" [16:59] <]Spectre[> windows doesn't works very well here [17:00] <]Spectre[> fix:work [17:02] <]Spectre[> it depends on what are you doing with the computer :) [17:04] in my experience pidgin is slow and clunky and crashes often [17:04] and hasnt changed since like 2008 [17:04] <]Spectre[> I don't know this point.here it works,install another thing.. [17:04] just making conversation :D [17:04] while i install [17:05] <]Spectre[> ah ok :) [17:05] <]Spectre[> that is fine :) [17:05] <]Spectre[> don't worry,it works here [17:05] <]Spectre[> you will see that lubuntu is fast as light [17:06] i read somewhere that Ubuntu 12.04 plans to boot in around "2 seconds"? is this true, and will this carry over for lubuntu? [17:06] <]Spectre[> I don't know [17:06] i don't think so [17:06] <]Spectre[> already you don' t need a lot of time to run lubuntu... [17:06] maybe on the best hardware ;) [17:06] yeh i know thats kinda hardware specific [17:07] :p [17:07] but i saw a YT vid where someone read it off as if he copied it from the patch notes [17:07] hmm, irrealistic :p [17:07] new question :p uhm [17:07] <]Spectre[> may be with a solid state harddrive ,or just with a big ram drive... [17:07] This home encryption [17:07] how is the password stored? [17:07] isnt it kinda pointless? [17:08] if the password is not needed to be typed in every boot, then isnt the password stored somewhere insecure? [17:08] <]Spectre[> I don't know about this point..you need to ask to smile [17:09] you can crack it if you want, Bunie [17:09] you can get the hash [17:09] but than you need a very powerful computer :p [17:09] i dont understand hashes i guess [17:09] Or much luck :p [17:09] but if the PC can pretty much decrypt itself [17:09] without my input [17:09] then cant anyone else just pull that info? [17:09] and run it on theirs? [17:10] a key consists normally of 2 parts :) [17:10] and if they find only one part they can't use it [17:10] just finding it means you're very lucky :p [17:11] and it's far from less secure than windows ;) [17:11] but Linux knows where it is [17:11] Windows too. [17:11] if you enable autologin :p [17:11] Windows doesnt even encrypt and im aware of it :P [17:11] xD [17:11] Than Linux is better :) it will encrypt, but no one knows how :) [17:12] Bunie: i'm using Lubuntu for about 2 years and i've never had viruses or hackers ;) [17:12] @ Windows it was worse :| [17:13] :( [17:13] lol i love windows :P [17:13] user error if you get infected [17:13] i just wanna get into Linux, study it, as a hobby [17:13] ok ;) [17:14] Bunie: read the linux from scratch handbook [17:14] if i get used to it then i'll make a switch on all my PC's [17:14] if you can understand it, you're a real geek :D [17:14] Bunie: Lubuntu is the best distro i've used so far [17:14] I tried a lot [17:14] i spent like 6 hours last night trying to get my wireless to work, only to find a package that did it for me =/ Lols [17:14] i think it has to be 600 or so :p [17:15] it wasn't working out of the box? [17:15] It needed me to extract my firmware [17:15] using a special tool [17:15] wich i couldnt manage lols [17:16] haha :) [17:16] ALSO! Its offering me to install Proprietary drivers, wondering how you feel about it? [17:16] Will i get better performance? worse stability? [17:16] stability is worse i think [17:16] i used non-free drivers [17:17] and my pc was working worse than before :( [17:17] i removed them :p [17:17] and it was fixed :) [17:17] Bunie: you can always try :) [17:17] ill stick with the free for now [17:17] (if you don't mind reinstalling when it goes wrong) [17:17] for the reason that i have no reason not to :p [17:18] :p [17:18] Bunie: did you partition your hard drive yourself? :p [17:18] nah. i used to in the old days [17:19] back when i would duel boot with windows years ago [17:19] Bunie: i'm dualbooting :) [17:20] i like lubuntu because it looks like a great Distro to ween a windows user on :P [17:20] :) [17:20] I like lubuntu minimal :p [17:20] how do i remove the bluetooth service? Considering i dont have bluetooth lol [17:21] you can turn it off :) [17:21] at startup [17:21] :p [17:23] https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-bCJocPsti7A/TY3f2YAXMAI/AAAAAAAAA8s/QAQnHlyCWkk/gnome+startup+applications+window.png [17:23] this can help: http://mygeekopinions.blogspot.com/2011/03/how-to-speed-up-gnome-desktop-loading.html [17:24] what does apt-get upgrade do?" [17:25] Bunie: it upgrades your distro to the release above [17:25] for example [17:25] if you have 10.04 [17:25] it would upgrade to 10.10 [17:25] :) [17:25] whats my 11.10 upgrading to? :P [17:25] to nothing. [17:25] because it isn't possible ;) [17:26] its just upgrading everything possible :) [17:26] but i just downloaded alot of stuff using "sudo apt-get upgrade" [17:26] ohh [17:26] kay :P [17:26] :p [17:26] i like this lubuntu alot so far [17:26] :DD [17:26] alot better then Unity for sure lol [17:26] unity will be the downfall of Ubuntu [17:27] If you can use AMD64-versions (64 bit) :) [17:27] I can, but i don't [17:27] they're quicker :p [17:27] i see no reason to [17:27] and i need more ram than 3.7 ;) [17:27] i thought the limit was 4? [17:27] Yeah. But on my pc it is 3.7 [17:27] crazy pc ;) [17:28] wow [17:28] mine says 3.2 [17:28] :o [17:28] even tho i have 4GB of ram installed [17:28] hi..is Lubuntu official by canonicial..? [17:28] Bunie: do you have external graphics? :p [17:28] looks like im switching to x64 [17:28] me-l: yes, since 11.10 [17:28] smile: not using THAT much memory i dont lols [17:28] smile: Any way to check that? [17:28] hmm.. :p [17:28] yeah [17:29] but i don't remember :( [17:29] smile, so no codecs ..? [17:29] smile: infact, my PC only came with 512MB, how can it be using more ram then it came with? Lols [17:29] me-l: you can add it by typing sudo apt-get install lubuntu-restricted-extras [17:29] Bunie: crazy pc you have :o [17:29] sounds like a command i'll want to use later lols [17:30] Bunie; so no onboard graphics? :) [17:30] wait, 93MB of 3269? lubuntu is only using 93MB of ram? [17:30] yeah, could be :) [17:30] thats awesome lols [17:30] :DD [17:30] I installed lubuntu minimal [17:30] smile, yes I know but before that i was giving Lubuntu CDs to my friends with low end PCs and without internet connections [17:30] i'm using 80 MB :) [17:30] ohh memory used as cache, it goes up to 249 [17:31] but that doesnt rlly count i guess [17:31] no; it clears it when it needs it [17:31] should i switch to lubuntu x64? [17:31] me-l: maybe you can download all the .deb packages and make a install script [17:31] will everything still work? Drivers? Wine? VLC? [17:31] Bunie: not needed :) but i like x64 Lubuntu more [17:31] 32-bit stuff? [17:32] Bunie: 32 bit stuff on Linux? xD [17:32] almost everything is 64 bit [17:32] so no need to fear :) [17:32] but thats a no? :P [17:33] real real real 32 bit won't run on it. but that are 10 packages out of 50 000 ;) [17:33] or less :) [17:33] k, so 32-bit apps i download in gz files wont work? [17:34] Bunie: indeed. But there are always 64 bit versions :) [17:34] Mkays. :P lol [17:34] Bunie? :D [17:35] Kay downloading x64 lubuntu [17:35] eta 10 minutes [17:35] Bunie: for me it takes 20 minutes :| [17:35] very bad connection :( [17:35] i'm sharing it with a second pc :p [17:36] Bunie: Does your name mean something? :p [17:36] smile: Nope! just like Rabbits [17:36] it's pronounced "bunny" [17:36] ok :) [17:45] Hello [17:46] How do I change the current logged in user's image? [17:46] AmberJ: no idea :) already searched on Google? [17:46] During Lubuntu 11.10 install, installer detected my webcam and allowed me to take a image for installed user account ... [17:47] Now it's using same image for my pidgin accounts as well :( [17:47] :( [17:47] smile, tried but I can't seem to find the right keyword.... [17:47] AmberJ: there is an app [17:47] with personal info [17:47] about the user [17:47] but i don't know how it's named [17:48] [LXDE_Menu] -> [System tools] -> [Users and groups] shows the images but refuses to allow me to change it :( [17:49] :| [17:49] and you know where they're stored? [17:49] you could replace them [17:49] :) [17:50] naah...no idea [17:51] :( [17:52] smile, you should not use that smiley ":("....You are only supposed to "smile" aka ":)" [17:52] :D [17:53] AmberJ: a sad smiley ;) [17:54] Found out the program behind this in GNOME/ubuntu: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/08/quickly-add-user-loginprofile-image-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/ [17:55] But gnome-about-me is not installed by default on lubuntu 11.10 [17:55] So, I guess there is some other tool [17:55] AmberJ: and sudo apt-get install gnome-about-me ? ;) [17:55] in LXTerminal :) [17:55] POLLUTION! [17:56] No gnome thingies (other than those that are installed with install) ... [17:56] :P [17:56] AmberJ: XD [17:59] Found the culprit ;) [17:59] ~/.face [18:00] :) [18:00] Hello all, a happy new year 2012. [18:00] hosoka: you too :DD [18:00] anyone available to assist me on 1 tiny issue ? [18:00] hosaka: yeah maybe :) if i can fix it :) [18:00] Is there anyone that could assist me on how to enable autologin with Lubuntu 11.10 ? [18:01] hosoka: do you use LXDM? :p [18:01] i think you do [18:01] yes [18:01] I have follow up the instructions in the Lubuntu docs. [18:01] not working so far. [18:01] you need to find the LXDE config [18:01] * LXDM config file [18:01] so not the lubuntu config file ? [18:02] no. :) [18:02] i'll search it for you [18:02] can you give me a hint how to go to lxdm config file [18:02] is the same as for the lubuntu config ? [18:02] hosoka: sudo leafpad /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf in a terminal window [18:03] you need to enable autologin [18:03] ok, I am in. [18:03] take # away before autologin [18:03] and put your username after autologin= === Alcine is now known as jalcine [18:03] ok [18:04] changes made. [18:04] hosoka, [LXDE_Menu] -> [System tools] -> [Users and groups] ..... [Password] -> Click on [Change] -> Check [Don't ask for password for login] [18:04] smile, you win :( [18:04] :p [18:04] Amber: I have done that and not working, sorry :-( [18:04] AmberJ: my solution will work (always) [18:04] hosoka: did you save it? :) [18:04] not yet [18:04] the first line leave it like it is ? [18:05] :((( <-- Super sad smiley [18:05] ##uncomment .... [18:05] * AmberJ reboot [18:05] reboot ? [18:05] ok will give it a try. [18:05] hosoka: if you have the line autologin=hosoka [18:05] for example ;) [18:05] if your account name is hosoka [18:05] :p [18:06] Amber and smile: I have added the Check at the Accounts in System. Will this not interrupt the whole autologin ? [18:06] No. It's a different system behind it. [18:06] :) [18:06] ok, will reboot it. [18:07] will come back later. [18:10] hosaka: did it work? [18:10] Hi, I am back. [18:11] smile: unfortunately not. [18:11] :o [18:11] :-( [18:11] crazy :o [18:11] it brought me back on the lxdm login screen. [18:11] using Lubuntu 11.10 [18:11] hosaka: sudo update-alternatives --config lxdm.conf [18:11] type in a terminal window: sudo update-alternatives --config lxdm.conf [18:11] and choose /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf [18:12] with the lubuntu 11.04 I did with gdm, but would like to attend this upgrade with autologin [18:12] I did not had any luck with lxdm. [18:12] autologin options. [18:12] did you do this? [18:12] smile type in a terminal window: sudo update-alternatives --config lxdm.conf [18:12] i think it's important [18:13] because they are 3 configs for lxdm on lubuntu [18:13] checking [18:13] ok :) [18:13] yes, that is already changed. [18:13] hmm :( [18:14] you mentioned there are 3 configs ? [18:14] for lxdm / [18:14] yeah. [18:14] ? [18:14] :p [18:14] hosoka: try changing /etc/xdg/lubuntu/lxdm/lxdm.conf [18:14] sudo leafpad /etc/xdg/lubuntu/lxdm/lxdm.conf [18:15] ok [18:15] checking [18:15] I think that's new since 10.10 :p [18:15] smile: [18:15] i see that still unchanged. [18:16] needs changes here too / [18:16] edit it :) [18:16] yeah. i think that's the key to the solution [18:16] [base] [18:16] ## uncomment and set autologin username to enable autologin [18:16] autologin=stella [18:16] ok, good :) [18:16] smile: that should be the correct one. [18:16] let me see [18:16] reboot? :p [18:17] rebooting now. [18:17] coming soon. [18:17] ok [18:19] soon? :| [18:21] smile: now it tells me it cannot found xubuntu x-session. Instead of the lubuntu or lxdm session. [18:22] :o [18:22] so it turned up to autologin in lxde now [18:22] hosoka: my last hope for you: http://linux.overshoot.tv/wiki/system/desktop_auto_login#lxdm [18:22] how to change session into the correct one. [18:23] hosoka: disable autologin in GUI [18:23] maybe that will work [18:24] :S [18:24] it always works with me :( [18:25] ok, disabled autologin in GUI [18:25] through accounts via system [18:26] hosaka: the last edit you made [18:26] in the second file [18:26] undo that [18:26] and edit the third file [18:26] the second file will cause lxdm to search for a gnome/xfce session [18:26] smile: going to fast now. [18:27] hosoka: sudo leafpad /etc/xdg/lubuntu/lxdm/lxdm.conf [18:27] comment autologin again [18:27] and set it to default value (nothing i think) [18:27] so #autologin= [18:28] with my login id [18:28] [base] [18:28] ## uncomment and set autologin username to enable autologin [18:28] #autologin=stella [18:28] Isn't pidgin supposed to minimize to tray by default when I click graphical close [X] button in pidgin main window? [18:29] hosoka: thats ok. [18:29] smile: is that what you meant ? [18:29] yes. [18:29] sudo leafpad /etc/alternatives/lxdm.conf [18:29] edit that file (it's a symbolic link) [18:29] Nevermind...there's an option in pidgin for that :) [18:30] i think if you reboot it will work. I hope it for you, hosoka :) [18:30] edit that file (it's a symbolic link) [18:30] what do you mean by that ? [18:30] i mean: sudo leafpad /etc/alternatives/lxdm.conf [18:30] the same as the previous one ? [18:31] maybe. :p [18:31] but sudo leafpad /etc/alternatives/lxdm.conf SHOULD work [18:31] :S [18:31] smile: overthere I have the same output [18:31] [base] [18:31] ## uncomment and set autologin username to enable autologin [18:31] #autologin=stella [18:31] so good to reboot [18:32] no [18:32] it's commented [18:32] ok [18:32] smile, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo [18:32] bioterror: gksu? :p [18:32] hosoka: remove comment? :S [18:33] smile: what I needed to do in here ? [18:33] remove comment ? [18:33] did not got that what you mean. [18:33] remove the # before autologin= [18:33] smile: ok done. [18:33]