[04:12] <Bunie> Hey guys! I think i've picked out this to be my distro of choice, was wondering if i could toss a few questions?
[04:22] <phillw> Bunie: start at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ and then feel free to ask
[04:22] <phillw> ;9
[04:23] <Bunie> Mostly just, 4GB of ram, and worried about the scarcity of linux drivers. should i go with a 32 or 64 bit build?
[04:24] <phillw> 4gb is FAR too much for lubuntu :P
[04:25] <phillw> 64bit build 11.10 can handle the amount
[04:27] <phillw> Bunie: i know, as i several VM's for different sytems within Lubuntu
[04:27] <Bunie> I know its too much ram
[04:27] <Bunie> its my graphics card that concerns me
[04:27] <Bunie> its a slow peice of crap that struggles with minecraft
[04:28] <Bunie> i figured the less window animations, the better. besides, i like the look :P
[04:28] <Bunie> Lubuntu is more about ram and not about conserving CPU?
[04:29] <phillw> Bunie: lubuntu consers both, you would have to aks others as to the minimal spec for minecraft
[04:32] <Bunie> lol that was just an example to show how poor my graphics card is :P
[04:32] <phillw> if you /join #minecraft they will tell you if your computer has the specs to play it. We on lubuntu ensure that the O/S is the minimal required to work. What you boys and girls add to it later, we cannot control :)
[04:55] <micahg> you can never have too much RAM :)
[04:58] <draik> No such thing as too much RAM, too much disk space, or too much VRAM.
[05:48] <Bunie> Im having issues with my wireless :3 keep in mind im a noobie so i could very well have no idea what im doin :p
[05:48] <Bunie> i used a wired connection to install the "Additional drivers"
[05:48] <Bunie> but still having no luck from here
[05:50] <phillw> Bunie: what version of lubuntu do you have installed?
[05:50] <Bunie> 11.04?
[05:50] <Bunie> also, new issue xD feel free to call me a dumbass. i was using a persistant usb version
[05:50] <Bunie> and ran apt-get upgrade
[05:51] <Bunie> now its asking for a user and pass that i didnt set up.
[05:51] <Bunie> whats the defaults? XD
[05:51] <Bunie> i tried root root, and root toor
[05:53] <phillw> Bunie: have you tried <cr> i.e. just hit the big Return / Enter button for both?
[05:53] <Bunie> yep
[05:53] <Bunie> leaving it blank does nothing
[05:53] <Bunie> will i need to recopy my usb and not upgrade this time? lol
[05:53] <phillw> using a live usb and updating is not advised
[05:54] <phillw> the support for usb, as opposed to a full install is tenuous
[05:55] <phillw> if you want to use a usb device, it should be above 2GB to allow it have /home partioin
[05:55] <Bunie> ill recopy it and not upgrade. was using it as a way to test before i do a full install
[05:55] <Bunie> wanted to try to upgrade cuz i was having some bug where the screensaver would pop up after like 5 minutes even when i was using it
[05:56] <phillw> Bunie: when you do decide to install lubuntu, or any linux system, can I whisper a word of advice to you?
[05:56] <Bunie> Sure thing :D
[05:56] <Bunie> assuming its friendly ;D
[05:58] <phillw> make a /home partition, that way, what ever you do to with your installed system, /home will always be safe unless you decide to allow the installer to nuke your hard drive....
[06:00] <phillw> Bunie: on this you may trust me, then ask any support person.... We love people who actually do it... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[06:00] <phillw> We hate those who encrypt.... nothing can rescue them.
[06:06] <micahg> that's the point :)
[06:10] <phillw> micahg: unless you are the support person for a n00b to linux who did it with all his college work on and forgot the password.
[06:11] <phillw> micahg: next time we have one, I'll send her to you.
[06:11] <micahg> I can't do anything, but just noting, that's the point of encryption
[06:12] <phillw> micahg: this chat is better carried out on #lubuntu-offtopic
[06:17] <Bunie> How do i connect to a wireless network?
[06:17] <Bunie> :p
[06:22] <Bunie> Also, when using a persistant cache  created by like, Lili USB, does that work with drivers?
[07:15] <sik_> hi i need help installing lubuntu from USB
[07:19] <sik_> HELLO?
[11:45] <smile> :p
[15:13] <xsaidx> hello
[16:21] <]Spectre[> Hi
[16:49] <Obituaryy> hi
[16:53] <Bunie> in the lubuntu installer, why is the guy listening to music and watching a movie trailer at the same time? Weirdo~ Lols
[16:54] <Bunie> i see pidgin is included? with all respect, doesnt pidgin suck now?
[16:57] <]Spectre[> why... if it works..
[16:57] <]Spectre[> when a thing works why to change it..
[16:58] <Bunie> If thats how you feel, go back to windows?
[16:58] <Bunie> :P
[16:58] <]Spectre[> ahahah
[16:59] <]Spectre[> I told "if it works"
[16:59] <]Spectre[> windows doesn't works very well here
[17:00] <]Spectre[> fix:work
[17:02] <]Spectre[> it depends on what are you doing with the computer :)
[17:04] <Bunie> in my experience pidgin is slow and clunky and crashes often
[17:04] <Bunie> and hasnt changed since like 2008
[17:04] <]Spectre[> I don't know this point.here it works,install another thing..
[17:04] <Bunie> just making conversation :D
[17:04] <Bunie> while i install
[17:05] <]Spectre[> ah ok :)
[17:05] <]Spectre[> that is fine :)
[17:05] <]Spectre[> don't worry,it works here
[17:05] <]Spectre[> you will see that lubuntu is fast as light
[17:06] <Bunie> i read somewhere that Ubuntu 12.04 plans to boot in around "2 seconds"? is this true, and will this carry over for lubuntu?
[17:06] <]Spectre[> I don't know
[17:06] <smile> i don't think so
[17:06] <]Spectre[> already you don' t need a lot of time to run lubuntu...
[17:06] <smile> maybe on the best hardware ;)
[17:06] <Bunie> yeh i know thats kinda hardware specific
[17:07] <smile> :p
[17:07] <Bunie> but i saw a YT vid where someone read it off as if he copied it from the patch notes
[17:07] <smile> hmm, irrealistic :p
[17:07] <Bunie> new question :p uhm
[17:07] <]Spectre[> may be with a solid state harddrive ,or just with a big ram drive...
[17:07] <Bunie> This home encryption
[17:07] <Bunie> how is the password stored?
[17:07] <Bunie> isnt it kinda pointless?
[17:08] <Bunie> if the password is not needed to be typed in every boot, then isnt the password stored somewhere insecure?
[17:08] <]Spectre[> I don't know about this point..you need to ask to smile
[17:09] <smile> you can crack it if you want, Bunie
[17:09] <smile> you can get the hash
[17:09] <smile> but than you need a very powerful computer :p
[17:09] <Bunie> i dont understand hashes i guess
[17:09] <smile> Or much luck :p
[17:09] <Bunie> but if the PC can pretty much decrypt itself
[17:09] <Bunie> without my input
[17:09] <Bunie> then cant anyone else just pull that info?
[17:09] <Bunie> and run it on theirs?
[17:10] <smile> a key consists normally of 2 parts :)
[17:10] <smile> and if they find only one part they can't use it
[17:10] <smile> just finding it means you're very lucky :p
[17:11] <smile> and it's far from less secure than windows ;)
[17:11] <Bunie> but Linux knows where it is
[17:11] <smile> Windows too.
[17:11] <smile> if you enable autologin :p
[17:11] <Bunie> Windows doesnt even encrypt and im aware of it :P
[17:11] <smile> xD
[17:11] <smile> Than Linux is better :) it will encrypt, but no one knows how :)
[17:12] <smile> Bunie: i'm using Lubuntu for about 2 years and i've never had viruses or hackers ;)
[17:12] <smile> @ Windows it was worse :|
[17:13] <smile> :(
[17:13] <Bunie> lol i love windows :P
[17:13] <bindi> user error if you get infected
[17:13] <Bunie> i just wanna get into Linux, study it, as a hobby
[17:13] <smile> ok ;)
[17:14] <smile> Bunie: read the linux from scratch handbook
[17:14] <Bunie> if i get used to it then i'll make a switch on all my PC's
[17:14] <smile> if you can understand it, you're a real geek :D
[17:14] <smile> Bunie: Lubuntu is the best distro i've used so far
[17:14] <smile> I tried a lot
[17:14] <Bunie> i spent like 6 hours last night trying to get my wireless to work, only to find a package that did it for me =/ Lols
[17:14] <smile> i think it has to be 600 or so :p
[17:15] <smile> it wasn't working out of the box?
[17:15] <Bunie> It needed me to extract my firmware
[17:15] <Bunie> using a special tool
[17:15] <Bunie> wich i couldnt manage lols
[17:16] <smile> haha :)
[17:16] <Bunie> ALSO! Its offering me to install Proprietary drivers, wondering how you feel about it?
[17:16] <Bunie> Will i get better performance? worse stability?
[17:16] <smile> stability is worse i think
[17:16] <smile> i used non-free drivers
[17:17] <smile> and my pc was working worse than before :(
[17:17] <smile> i removed them :p
[17:17] <smile> and it was fixed :)
[17:17] <smile> Bunie: you can always try :)
[17:17] <Bunie> ill stick with the free for now
[17:17] <smile> (if you don't mind reinstalling when it goes wrong)
[17:17] <Bunie> for the reason that i have no reason not to :p
[17:18] <smile> :p
[17:18] <smile> Bunie: did you partition your hard drive yourself? :p
[17:18] <Bunie> nah. i used to in the old days
[17:19] <Bunie> back when i would duel boot with windows years ago
[17:19] <smile> Bunie: i'm dualbooting :)
[17:20] <Bunie> i like lubuntu because it looks like a great Distro to ween a windows user on :P
[17:20] <smile> :)
[17:20] <smile> I like lubuntu minimal :p
[17:20] <Bunie> how do i remove the bluetooth service? Considering i dont have bluetooth lol
[17:21] <smile> you can turn it off :)
[17:21] <smile> at startup
[17:21] <smile> :p
[17:23] <smile> https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-bCJocPsti7A/TY3f2YAXMAI/AAAAAAAAA8s/QAQnHlyCWkk/gnome+startup+applications+window.png
[17:23] <smile> this can help: http://mygeekopinions.blogspot.com/2011/03/how-to-speed-up-gnome-desktop-loading.html
[17:24] <Bunie> what does apt-get upgrade do?"
[17:25] <smile> Bunie: it upgrades your distro to the release above
[17:25] <smile> for example
[17:25] <smile> if you have 10.04
[17:25] <smile> it would upgrade to 10.10
[17:25] <smile> :)
[17:25] <Bunie> whats my 11.10 upgrading to? :P
[17:25] <smile> to nothing.
[17:25] <smile> because it isn't possible ;)
[17:26] <smile> its just upgrading everything possible :)
[17:26] <Bunie> but i just downloaded alot of stuff using "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[17:26] <Bunie> ohh
[17:26] <Bunie> kay :P
[17:26] <smile> :p
[17:26] <Bunie> i like this lubuntu alot so far
[17:26] <smile> :DD
[17:26] <Bunie> alot better then Unity for sure lol
[17:26] <Bunie> unity will be the downfall of Ubuntu
[17:27] <smile> If you can use AMD64-versions (64 bit) :)
[17:27] <Bunie> I can, but i don't
[17:27] <smile> they're quicker :p
[17:27] <Bunie> i see no reason to
[17:27] <smile> and i need more ram than 3.7 ;)
[17:27] <Bunie> i thought the limit was 4?
[17:27] <smile> Yeah. But on my pc it is 3.7
[17:27] <smile> crazy pc ;)
[17:28] <Bunie> wow
[17:28] <Bunie> mine says 3.2
[17:28] <smile> :o
[17:28] <Bunie> even tho i have 4GB of ram installed
[17:28] <me-1> hi..is Lubuntu official by canonicial..?
[17:28] <smile> Bunie: do you have external graphics? :p
[17:28] <Bunie> looks like im switching to x64
[17:28] <smile> me-l: yes, since 11.10
[17:28] <Bunie> smile: not using THAT much memory i dont lols
[17:28] <Bunie> smile: Any way to check that?
[17:28] <smile> hmm.. :p
[17:28] <smile> yeah
[17:29] <smile> but i don't remember :(
[17:29] <me-1> smile,  so no codecs ..?
[17:29] <Bunie> smile: infact, my PC only came with 512MB, how can it be using more ram then it came with? Lols
[17:29] <smile> me-l: you can add it by typing sudo apt-get install lubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:29] <smile> Bunie: crazy pc you have :o
[17:29] <Bunie> sounds like a command i'll want to use later lols
[17:30] <smile> Bunie; so no onboard graphics? :)
[17:30] <Bunie> wait, 93MB of 3269? lubuntu is only using 93MB of ram?
[17:30] <smile> yeah, could be :)
[17:30] <Bunie> thats awesome lols
[17:30] <smile> :DD
[17:30] <smile> I installed lubuntu minimal
[17:30] <me-1> smile,  yes I know but before that i was giving Lubuntu CDs to my friends with low end PCs and without internet connections
[17:30] <smile> i'm using 80 MB :)
[17:30] <Bunie> ohh memory used as cache, it goes up to 249
[17:31] <Bunie> but that doesnt rlly count i guess
[17:31] <smile> no; it clears it when it needs it
[17:31] <Bunie> should i switch to lubuntu x64?
[17:31] <smile> me-l: maybe you can download all the .deb packages and make a install script
[17:31] <Bunie> will everything still work? Drivers? Wine? VLC?
[17:31] <smile> Bunie: not needed :) but i like x64 Lubuntu more
[17:31] <Bunie> 32-bit stuff?
[17:32] <smile> Bunie: 32 bit stuff on Linux? xD
[17:32] <smile> almost everything is 64 bit
[17:32] <smile> so no need to fear :)
[17:32] <Bunie> but thats a no? :P
[17:33] <smile> real real real 32 bit won't run on it. but that are 10 packages out of 50 000 ;)
[17:33] <smile> or less :)
[17:33] <Bunie> k, so 32-bit apps i download in gz files wont work?
[17:34] <smile> Bunie: indeed. But there are always 64 bit versions :)
[17:34] <Bunie> Mkays. :P lol
[17:34] <smile> Bunie? :D
[17:35] <Bunie> Kay downloading x64 lubuntu
[17:35] <Bunie> eta 10 minutes
[17:35] <smile> Bunie: for me it takes 20 minutes :|
[17:35] <smile> very bad connection :(
[17:35] <smile> i'm sharing it with a second pc :p
[17:36] <smile> Bunie: Does your name mean something? :p
[17:36] <Bunie> smile: Nope! just like Rabbits
[17:36] <Bunie> it's pronounced "bunny"
[17:36] <smile> ok :)
[17:45] <AmberJ> Hello
[17:46] <AmberJ> How do I change the current logged in user's image?
[17:46] <smile> AmberJ: no idea :) already searched on Google?
[17:46] <AmberJ> During Lubuntu 11.10 install, installer detected my webcam and allowed me to take a image for installed user account ...
[17:47] <AmberJ> Now it's using same image for my pidgin accounts as well :(
[17:47] <smile> :(
[17:47] <AmberJ> smile, tried but I can't seem to find the right keyword....
[17:47] <smile> AmberJ: there is an app
[17:47] <smile> with personal info
[17:47] <smile> about the user
[17:47] <smile> but i don't know how it's named
[17:48] <AmberJ> [LXDE_Menu] -> [System tools] -> [Users and groups] shows the images but refuses to allow me to change it :(
[17:49] <smile> :|
[17:49] <smile> and you know where they're stored?
[17:49] <smile> you could replace them
[17:49] <smile> :)
[17:50] <AmberJ> naah...no idea
[17:51] <smile> :(
[17:52] <AmberJ> smile, you should not use that smiley ":("....You are only supposed to "smile" aka ":)"
[17:52] <AmberJ> :D
[17:53] <smile> AmberJ: a sad smiley ;)
[17:54] <AmberJ> Found out the program behind this in GNOME/ubuntu: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/08/quickly-add-user-loginprofile-image-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/
[17:55] <AmberJ> But gnome-about-me is not installed by default on lubuntu 11.10
[17:55] <AmberJ> So, I guess there is some other tool
[17:55] <smile> AmberJ: and sudo apt-get install gnome-about-me ? ;)
[17:55] <smile> in LXTerminal :)
[17:55] <AmberJ> POLLUTION!
[17:56] <AmberJ> No gnome thingies (other than those that are installed with install) ...
[17:56] <AmberJ> :P
[17:56] <smile> AmberJ: XD
[17:59] <AmberJ> Found the culprit ;)
[17:59] <AmberJ> ~/.face
[18:00] <smile> :)
[18:00] <hosoka> Hello all, a happy new year 2012.
[18:00] <smile> hosoka: you too :DD
[18:00] <hosoka> anyone available to assist me on 1 tiny issue ?
[18:00] <smile> hosaka: yeah maybe :) if i can fix it :)
[18:00] <hosoka> Is there anyone that could assist me on how to enable autologin with Lubuntu 11.10 ?
[18:01] <smile> hosoka: do you use LXDM? :p
[18:01] <smile> i think you do
[18:01] <hosoka> yes
[18:01] <hosoka> I have follow up the instructions in the Lubuntu docs.
[18:01] <hosoka> not working so far.
[18:01] <smile> you need to find the LXDE config
[18:01] <smile> * LXDM config file
[18:01] <hosoka> so not the lubuntu config file ?
[18:02] <smile> no. :)
[18:02] <smile> i'll search it for you
[18:02] <hosoka> can you give me a hint how to go to lxdm config file
[18:02] <hosoka> is the same as for the lubuntu config ?
[18:02] <smile> hosoka: sudo leafpad /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf in a terminal window
[18:03] <smile> you need to enable autologin
[18:03] <hosoka> ok, I am in.
[18:03] <smile> take # away before autologin
[18:03] <smile> and put your username after autologin=
[18:03] <hosoka> ok
[18:04] <hosoka> changes made.
[18:04] <AmberJ> hosoka, [LXDE_Menu] -> [System tools] -> [Users and groups] ..... [Password] -> Click on [Change] -> Check [Don't ask for password for login]
[18:04] <AmberJ> smile, you win :(
[18:04] <smile> :p
[18:04] <hosoka> Amber: I have done that and not working, sorry :-(
[18:04] <smile> AmberJ: my solution will work (always)
[18:04] <smile> hosoka: did you save it? :)
[18:04] <hosoka> not yet
[18:04] <hosoka> the first line leave it like it is ?
[18:05] <AmberJ> :((( <-- Super sad smiley
[18:05] <hosoka> ##uncomment ....
[18:05]  * AmberJ reboot
[18:05] <hosoka> reboot ?
[18:05] <hosoka> ok will give it a try.
[18:05] <smile> hosoka: if you have the line autologin=hosoka
[18:05] <smile> for example ;)
[18:05] <smile> if your account name is hosoka
[18:05] <smile> :p
[18:06] <hosoka> Amber and smile: I have added the Check at the Accounts in System. Will this not interrupt the whole autologin ?
[18:06] <smile> No. It's a different system behind it.
[18:06] <smile> :)
[18:06] <hosoka> ok, will reboot it.
[18:07] <hosoka> will come back later.
[18:10] <smile> hosaka: did it work?
[18:10] <hosoka> Hi, I am back.
[18:11] <hosoka> smile: unfortunately not.
[18:11] <smile> :o
[18:11] <hosoka> :-(
[18:11] <smile> crazy :o
[18:11] <hosoka> it brought me back on the lxdm login screen.
[18:11] <hosoka> using Lubuntu 11.10
[18:11] <smile> hosaka: sudo update-alternatives --config  lxdm.conf
[18:11] <smile> type in a terminal window: sudo update-alternatives --config  lxdm.conf
[18:11] <smile> and choose /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf
[18:12] <hosoka> with the lubuntu 11.04 I did with gdm, but would like to attend this upgrade with autologin
[18:12] <hosoka> I did not had any luck with lxdm.
[18:12] <hosoka> autologin options.
[18:12] <smile> did you do this?
[18:12] <smile> smile	type in a terminal window: sudo update-alternatives --config lxdm.conf
[18:12] <smile> i think it's important
[18:13] <smile> because they are 3 configs for lxdm on lubuntu
[18:13] <hosoka> checking
[18:13] <smile> ok :)
[18:13] <hosoka> yes, that is already changed.
[18:13] <smile> hmm :(
[18:14] <hosoka> you mentioned there are 3 configs ?
[18:14] <hosoka> for lxdm /
[18:14] <smile> yeah.
[18:14] <hosoka> ?
[18:14] <smile> :p
[18:14] <smile> hosoka: try changing /etc/xdg/lubuntu/lxdm/lxdm.conf
[18:14] <smile> sudo leafpad /etc/xdg/lubuntu/lxdm/lxdm.conf
[18:15] <hosoka> ok
[18:15] <hosoka> checking
[18:15] <smile> I think that's new since 10.10 :p
[18:15] <hosoka> smile:
[18:15] <hosoka> i see that still unchanged.
[18:16] <hosoka> needs changes here too /
[18:16] <smile> edit it :)
[18:16] <smile> yeah. i think that's the key to the solution
[18:16] <hosoka> [base]
[18:16] <hosoka> ## uncomment and set autologin username to enable autologin
[18:16] <hosoka> autologin=stella
[18:16] <smile> ok, good :)
[18:16] <hosoka> smile: that should be the correct one.
[18:16] <hosoka> let me see
[18:16] <smile> reboot? :p
[18:17] <hosoka> rebooting now.
[18:17] <hosoka> coming soon.
[18:17] <smile> ok
[18:19] <smile> soon? :|
[18:21] <hosoka> smile: now it tells me it cannot found xubuntu x-session. Instead of the lubuntu or lxdm session.
[18:22] <smile> :o
[18:22] <hosoka> so it turned up to autologin in lxde now
[18:22] <smile> hosoka: my last hope for you: http://linux.overshoot.tv/wiki/system/desktop_auto_login#lxdm
[18:22] <hosoka> how to change session into the correct one.
[18:23] <smile> hosoka: disable autologin in GUI
[18:23] <smile> maybe that will work
[18:24] <smile> :S
[18:24] <smile> it always works with me :(
[18:25] <hosoka> ok, disabled autologin in GUI
[18:25] <hosoka> through accounts via system
[18:26] <smile> hosaka: the last edit you made
[18:26] <smile> in the second file
[18:26] <smile> undo that
[18:26] <smile> and edit the third file
[18:26] <smile> the second file will cause lxdm to search for a gnome/xfce session
[18:26] <hosoka> smile: going to fast now.
[18:27] <smile> hosoka: sudo leafpad /etc/xdg/lubuntu/lxdm/lxdm.conf
[18:27] <smile> comment autologin again
[18:27] <smile> and set it to default value (nothing i think)
[18:27] <smile> so #autologin=
[18:28] <hosoka> with my login id
[18:28] <hosoka> [base]
[18:28] <hosoka> ## uncomment and set autologin username to enable autologin
[18:28] <hosoka> #autologin=stella
[18:28] <AmberJ> Isn't pidgin supposed to minimize to tray by default when I click graphical close [X] button in pidgin main window?
[18:29] <smile> hosoka: thats ok.
[18:29] <hosoka> smile: is that what you meant ?
[18:29] <smile> yes.
[18:29] <smile> sudo leafpad /etc/alternatives/lxdm.conf
[18:29] <smile> edit that file (it's a symbolic link)
[18:29] <AmberJ> Nevermind...there's an option in pidgin for that :)
[18:30] <smile> i think if you reboot it will work. I hope it for you, hosoka :)
[18:30] <hosoka> edit that file (it's a symbolic link)
[18:30] <hosoka> what do you mean by that ?
[18:30] <smile> i mean: sudo leafpad /etc/alternatives/lxdm.conf
[18:30] <hosoka> the same as the previous one ?
[18:31] <smile> maybe. :p
[18:31] <smile> but sudo leafpad /etc/alternatives/lxdm.conf SHOULD work
[18:31] <smile> :S
[18:31] <hosoka> smile: overthere I have the same output
[18:31] <hosoka> [base]
[18:31] <hosoka> ## uncomment and set autologin username to enable autologin
[18:31] <hosoka> #autologin=stella
[18:31] <hosoka> so good to reboot
[18:32] <smile> no
[18:32] <smile> it's commented
[18:32] <hosoka> ok
[18:32] <bioterror> smile, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[18:32] <smile> bioterror: gksu? :p
[18:32] <smile> hosoka: remove comment? :S
[18:33] <hosoka> smile: what I needed to do in here ?
[18:33] <hosoka> remove comment ?
[18:33] <hosoka> did not got that what you mean.
[18:33] <smile> remove the # before autologin=
[18:33] <hosoka> smile: ok done.
[18:33] <smile> saved? :)
[18:34] <hosoka> smile: yes
[18:34] <hosoka> reboot ?
[18:34] <smile> yes, try :)
[18:34] <hosoka> ok
[18:34]  * smile hopes it will work
[18:34] <hosoka> me to
[18:38] <smile> bioterror? :p
[18:40] <smile> hosoka: welcome back
[18:40] <smile> :)
[18:40] <hosoka> smile: it does looks out for my x-session of Xubuntu.
[18:40] <hosoka> sorry
[18:41] <smile> hosoka: and does it still boots?
[18:41] <hosoka> should it not look for my lubuntu or lxdm session ?
[18:41] <smile> hosoka: it should.. :S
[18:41] <hosoka> smile: if I got the x-session window error, coming back on the lxde
[18:41] <hosoka> there is how I got into this IRC
[19:14] <smile4ever> does someone uses lightspark? :)
[21:53] <xsaidx> hello guys
[21:54] <xsaidx> anyone here
[21:54] <holstein>  
[23:00] <iceroot> i am looking for the newest version of "lxpanel" a git repo was provided by the lxde-hackers on #lxde but i would like to use a *.deb. maybe we have a ppa or something similar up with the latest (unstable) releases?
[23:01] <MrChrisDruif> Afaik we haven't got any iceroot
[23:01] <MrChrisDruif> iceroot; which version number is it?
[23:03] <iceroot> MrChrisDruif: the one from git://lxde.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/lxde/lxpanel  (sorry i have to do some git reading first to find out how to use git, to finally see the version)
[23:03] <iceroot> i am doing that because of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxpanel/+bug/846878  i was asked if that bug still happens on the latest git version
[23:03] <MrChrisDruif> Alright
[23:04] <MrChrisDruif> But isn't that spot the place of audio or something else?
[23:04] <MrChrisDruif> Ow, never mind
[23:04] <MrChrisDruif> Just so the bug with the attached image
[23:05] <iceroot> http://alpha-unix.de/~iceroot/lxde-indicator-spaces.png
[23:05] <iceroot> that will onloy happen when the power-manager-icon is shown
[23:09] <MrChrisDruif> Isn't that battery the power-manager-icon?
[23:10] <MrChrisDruif> And I was referring to this stile: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/82400566/panel_with_empty_space.png
[23:10] <iceroot> yes, xfce4-power-manager
[23:10] <iceroot> MrChrisDruif: its the same issue
[23:10] <MrChrisDruif> But that icon is present in both images -_-
[23:11] <iceroot> yes
[23:11] <iceroot> i dont get your question
[23:11] <]Spectre[> hi
[23:11] <MrChrisDruif> Hi ]Spectre[
[23:11] <]Spectre[> Hey MrChrisDruif :) I'm on ubuntu-offtopic
[23:11] <]Spectre[> and also here ;)
[23:14] <MrChrisDruif> Ow, I misread your sentence about that icon
[23:19] <iceroot> can anyone assist me on building lxde on 12.04? the build-dep wants libmenu-cache-dev but that is not in ubuntu
[23:20] <iceroot> and i want to try the latest lxde release. the git-repo is providing a debian-source-package which cant be build on ubuntu 12.04
[23:21] <iceroot> maybe we have some docu about using the latest lxde-builds for bug-testing on lubuntu
[23:36] <MrChrisDruif> Sorry, can't help you with that iceroot
[23:37] <iceroot> i have found the issue its in there git-repo