| aguitel | penguin42, me too in some new machine ,but in old ....this is the question | 00:02 |
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| penguin42 | aguitel: Yeh, xubuntu is probably a good bet - xfce is quite nice | 00:03 |
| aguitel | yes | 00:05 |
| FernandoMiguel | Happy New Year !!! | 00:06 |
| aguitel | feliz 2012 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 00:07 |
| yofel | happy new year ;) | 00:08 |
| === Resistance is now known as EvilResistance | ||
| === EvilResistance is now known as Resistance | ||
| FernandoMiguel | nite ! ill go now enjoying my 1st 2012 sleep | 02:56 |
| Fudge | hi all | 04:07 |
| === kholerabbi|away is now known as kholerabbi | ||
| atvr | i need a link for ubuntu 12.04 beta, i need to make some test on my machine beceaus 11.10 dosnt work | 11:20 |
| oCean | atvr: not beta, still apha 1 at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/alpha-1/ | 11:27 |
| micahg | atvr: it won't exist until March | 11:30 |
| aguitel | why in 10.04 glxgears run 600 FPS and in 12.04 are 60 FPS ? | 12:08 |
| Stanley00 | aguitel: did you install video driver, and/or use the same resolution when run glxgears? | 12:10 |
| aguitel | Stanley00, i have intel video card | 12:11 |
| aguitel | Stanley00, no drivers need and same resolution | 12:12 |
| aguitel | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) | 12:12 |
| Stanley00 | aguitel: I mean the resolution of the gear? | 12:12 |
| aguitel | Stanley00, how control this ? | 12:13 |
| Stanley00 | aguitel: with "-geometry" parameter, I think | 12:14 |
| aguitel | monitor resolution? | 12:14 |
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| scotty^ | Where can I download the Precise daily builds? | 14:49 |
| Ampelbein | scotty^: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ | 14:54 |
| scotty^ | Thanks | 14:54 |
| Ampelbein | if you need the live cd, s/daily/daily-live/ | 14:55 |
| scotty^ | Ah yes, that would be better. | 14:59 |
| scotty^ | What's the full URI for that one? | 15:00 |
| Ampelbein | scotty^: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ | 15:02 |
| scotty^ | Awesome, thanks. | 15:04 |
| ultrav1olet | where can I download development packages (deb) for 12.04? | 16:39 |
| ultrav1olet | I just need a link, nothing else | 16:39 |
| ultrav1olet | I mean just deb packages | 16:40 |
| penguin42 | ultrav1olet: you can get it from your normal mirror | 16:42 |
| penguin42 | ultrav1olet: The easiest way is to go to packages.ubuntu.com, use the package search and select precise | 16:43 |
| ultrav1olet | my mirror has ubuntu ubuntu-cdimage and ubuntu-releases directories and none of them have the package I'm interested in | 16:43 |
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| ultrav1olet | ubuntu/pool/universe/a has it, but a very outdated version | 16:44 |
| Ampelbein | ultrav1olet: What mirror is that? | 16:46 |
| ultrav1olet | penguin42: damn http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=aircrack-ng&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all | 16:46 |
| yofel | ultrav1olet: *which* deb? from an archive perspective the devel release is a release like any other | 16:46 |
| ultrav1olet | no package for Precise Pangolin | 16:46 |
| penguin42 | ah, look like it's been removed from pp | 16:46 |
| ultrav1olet | WTF?? | 16:46 |
| * yofel looks up why | 16:46 | |
| jtaylor | unmaintained and buggy is my guess :) | 16:46 |
| ultrav1olet | I don't want to build it from the sources :( | 16:47 |
| ultrav1olet | v1.1 is maintained and well-built :) | 16:47 |
| yofel | yeah, by pitti: | 16:47 |
| yofel | (From Debian) RoQA; unmaintained, RC-buggy, NPOS; Debian bug #642934 | 16:47 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 642934 in wnpp "ITP: aircrack-ng -- wireless WEP/WPA cracking utilities" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/642934 | 16:47 |
| yofel | ultrav1olet: you can upload the oneiric package to a PPA then | 16:48 |
| ultrav1olet | Please remove aircrack-ng. It has unresolved license problems, is | 16:48 |
| ultrav1olet | not part of stable and genereally unmaintained. Better alternatives | 16:48 |
| ultrav1olet | exist. | 16:48 |
| ultrav1olet | alternatives? Fsck me :) | 16:49 |
| keffie_jayx | Could anyone help me with a lsb_release error on 12.04? | 16:49 |
| keffie_jayx | bash: /usr/bin/lsb_release: /usr/bin/python3: bad interpreter: No such file or directory | 16:49 |
| keffie_jayx | python3 is not installed maybe? | 16:49 |
| jtaylor | probably | 16:49 |
| jtaylor | since when is python3 part of lsb :O | 16:49 |
| jtaylor | ah the script itself is py3 | 16:51 |
| jtaylor | probably due to the py2 removal from the cd | 16:51 |
| keffie_jayx | well python3 is installed for obvious reasons | 16:51 |
| penguin42 | keffie_jayx: Can you run /usr/bin/python3 ? | 16:52 |
| keffie_jayx | yep... python3.2 | 16:52 |
| penguin42 | yofel: You'd hope that a bug that said 'there are better alternatives' would list them | 16:52 |
| yofel | penguin42: yeah, I just read the whole report, but nothing to be found there :/ | 16:53 |
| keffie_jayx | penguin42: 3.2, but I guess the script references python3 | 16:53 |
| yofel | hm, lsb_release works fine here | 16:53 |
| penguin42 | keffie_jayx: but you actually have the file /usr/bin/python3 ? | 16:54 |
| keffie_jayx | penguin42: no. | 16:55 |
| keffie_jayx | penguin42: is that some sort of ln? | 16:56 |
| yofel | it's part of python3-minimal | 16:56 |
| penguin42 | keffie_jayx: Yes it is a symlink | 16:56 |
| keffie_jayx | somehow it was not created | 16:57 |
| jtaylor | reinstall python3-minimal | 16:58 |
| keffie_jayx | ok | 16:58 |
| keffie_jayx | thanks | 16:58 |
| keffie_jayx | jtaylor penguin42 yofel thanks, works now. happy new year to you | 17:00 |
| penguin42 | HNY keffie_jayx | 17:00 |
| yofel | np, you too | 17:00 |
| * penguin42 wonders how that broke | 17:01 | |
| * BluesKaj trusts that the latest upgrades won't break his setup :| | 19:49 | |
| * FernandoMiguel checks for updates | 19:50 | |
| BluesKaj | <--- hasn't updated in a while | 19:51 |
| penguin42 | seems ok here | 19:52 |
| FernandoMiguel | firefox firefox-globalmenu firefox-gnome-support firefox-locale-en firefox-locale-pt libvlc5 vlc vlc-nox vlc-plugin-notify vlc-plugin-pulse | 19:52 |
| FernandoMiguel | meh | 19:52 |
| BluesKaj | happy New Year gentlemen ! | 19:54 |
| penguin42 | HNY BluesKaj | 19:54 |
| FernandoMiguel | enjoy all 366 of it | 19:58 |
| BluesKaj | leap yr eh ? | 19:59 |
| guntbert | how can I (in CLI) find out which of my packages will be the"1 not upgraded" by aptitude safe-upgrade? | 20:07 |
| jtaylor | apt-get dist-upgrade, the package thats listed under kept back | 20:08 |
| jtaylor | no only upgrade | 20:09 |
| jtaylor | not dist upgradeobviously :) | 20:10 |
| guntbert | jtaylor: good idea, I forgot that upgrade still asks "want to continue?" | 20:10 |
| Ampelbein | And you probably shouldn't use aptitude anymore, it has troubles with multiarch IIRC. | 20:19 |
| robin0800 | jtaylor: use the update manager that will show and also propt to do a partial install don't do this of course | 20:21 |
| BluesKaj | yeah, I used to like aptitude alot but , apt-get has caught up and passed it in terms of resolving dependencies. | 20:21 |
| FernandoMiguel | meh | 20:21 |
| FernandoMiguel | I love aptitude too mcuh | 20:21 |
| FernandoMiguel | *much | 20:21 |
| guntbert | Ampelbein: any references to support your statement? | 20:27 |
| Ampelbein | Gunni: sure, bug 831768 | 20:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 831768 in aptitude (Ubuntu Precise) "aptitude cannot handle conflicts with multiarch enabled" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/831768 | 20:28 |
| Ampelbein | sorry, guntbert ^^ | 20:28 |
| guntbert | Ampelbein: thx for the heads up | 20:30 |
| guntbert | follow up question: how can I find out why software-center is not upgraded to 5.1.4 for almost a week now? | 20:32 |
| jtaylor | what does dist-upgrade say? | 20:32 |
| guntbert | jtaylor: I have to try... | 20:34 |
| guntbert | jtaylor: it would remove python-gobject-cairo and install python-gi-cairo | 20:36 |
| jtaylor | probably makes sense | 20:37 |
| jtaylor | see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/5.1.3.1 | 20:38 |
| bjsnider | also the developers are on holiday | 20:39 |
| guntbert | bjsnider: of course - there is nothing urgent I was only curious | 20:49 |
| guntbert | jtaylor: the dist-upgrade went ok - with a somewhat crazy report: dpkg: python-gobject-cairo: dependency problems, but removing anyway as you requested: software-center depends on python-gobject-cairo. (I don't need futher help...) | 20:51 |
| Fudge | hi all | 23:02 |
| jacobw | hi Fudge | 23:05 |
| Fudge | jacobw howdy | 23:05 |
| Fudge | figured out that the floppy in fstab and a non existent swap since i removed it was causing major delays in boot time | 23:06 |
| penguin42 | Fudge: Ah I reckon Ubuntu is rarely tested with floppies these days | 23:34 |
| Resistance | heh | 23:35 |
| Resistance | i dont think they even still produce floopy drives... | 23:35 |
| Resistance | do they? | 23:36 |
| penguin42 | I suspect they do - for replacements in machines built ages ago | 23:37 |
| Daekdroom | Not only for replacements but for those who stored a huge amount of data in floppies. | 23:38 |
| Daekdroom | Same way it happens with VHS. | 23:38 |
| Fudge | penguin42 its that the header is not disabled in the bios i think | 23:44 |
| Fudge | it was also causing gparted to take for ever to scan for partitions | 23:44 |
| Fudge | still is actually, not sure how to disable it at os level | 23:46 |
| robin0800 | Fudge: comment it out in fstab and blacklist the floppy in modprobe.d | 23:48 |
| Fudge | ah i hadnt blacklisted it | 23:49 |
| robin0800 | Fudge: update initramfs and grub the you can delete the floppy in /media | 23:51 |
| Fudge | robin0800 in blacklist.conf? what would the entry be blacklist fd0? | 23:51 |
| robin0800 | Fudge: blacklist floppy | 23:52 |
| Fudge | too easy | 23:52 |
| Fudge | yay thats much better | 23:55 |
| penguin42 | Fudge: I'm curious; do you purely use a screen reader - do you use anything else like readers hung off serial etc? | 23:56 |
| Fudge | penguin42 yes just rely on speech, i do have a dectalk express but i am missing the pty cable which is similar to rj45 - serial | 23:57 |
| Fudge | i can see screens pop up but no chance to read any content | 23:57 |
| penguin42 | Fudge: OK, reason I ask is that if you have serial you should be able to get grub and kernel messages to go to it (and on some bioses the bios) | 23:57 |
| Fudge | oh grub as well? wasn't aware of that | 23:58 |
| penguin42 | Fudge: Yeh, not done it for a while, but they do it for things like server farms and embedded stuff quite often | 23:58 |
| Fudge | i get speech-dispatcher to start with pulse so i get most of the bootup messages through soft synth | 23:59 |
| Fudge | there is always something simple that can throw a spanner in the works though like at bios level | 23:59 |
| Fudge | some weeks ago i could not boot from cd because after pushing f8 to getmy boot media up i was not aware of an error and having to push f2 to reload defaults | 23:59 |
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