[01:29] <head_victim> gorilla: sorry mate I went to bed around 1am local time. I'm a bit boring to be out all night partying ;)
[01:30] <gorilla> no worries. Happy new year anyway :-)
[01:30] <head_victim> Ah you're here. I was just pinging you due to the mailing list conversation
[01:30] <head_victim> I did end up working it out so now I have the dhcp, bind and lamp stuff running on the laptop
[01:31] <head_victim> I was wondering if there's anything else I needed to set up you could think of
[01:31] <gorilla> Yep.. just read about that.
[01:31] <head_victim> I'm flying blind here, I had to have someone else hack up example bind config files for me so I could get my head around it enouhg to make it work in one night.
[01:32] <gorilla> Umm not that I can think of. I guess plug in a computer into a totally isolated network and try to apt-get something.
[01:32] <head_victim> On the plus side, I've learnt lots.
[01:32] <head_victim> Yeah, I ahve to wait to redownload the repository for that final testing now :/ I broke the USB partition by resizing and moving it only to have the usb hub fall and disconnect everything half way through.
[01:32] <gorilla> you would. It would make a good HOWTO as the idea could be reused for other distros also.
[01:33] <head_victim> Unable to mount the drive now and gparted is taking hours to fsck it.
[01:33] <gorilla> you might be better to re-format the drive and start from fresh.
[01:34] <head_victim> Yeah, just hope it only takes 2 days to download the lot again like last time :)
[01:34] <head_victim> Nothing like leaving it to the last minute huh ;)
[01:36] <gorilla> hehe. Nothing is as motivating either :-)
[01:36] <head_victim> ext4 is still the bees knees for usb drives yeah?
[01:39] <gorilla> That would be my choice. I'm not an expert of file systems. Love ZFS but you need multiple drives for that :-)
[01:39] <head_victim> Or should I take this opportunity to move it to btrfs
[01:42] <gorilla> I don't know. I wouldn't break out exotic fliesystems if you have a dead line though :-)
[01:42] <head_victim> Fair call
[01:51] <head_victim> Alright, rsync my old mate, get to it.
[01:51] <head_victim> It's only 5-600gb :D
[02:20] <head_victim> Found my first flaw, apparently by default it uses security.ubuntu.com for security updates. I'd only counted on archives.u.c
[02:21] <gorilla> ahh. I though you had that covered :-P
[02:21] <head_victim> Nope, so now I'll have security.u.c and archive.u.c, anything else you can think of?
[02:24] <gorilla> umm. any worthy PPA's?
[02:32] <head_victim> medibuntu?
[02:42] <gorilla> could do.
[02:43] <sagaci> just copy over the libdvdcss2 deb
[02:45] <sagaci> and a libflashplayer.so
[02:45] <sagaci> and optionally the msttcorefonts
[03:06] <head_victim> The whole medibuntu repo is only a couple of gig
[03:11] <head_victim> aarnet is being so slow today :/ only 1.5. I'm starting to think more people have jumped on the hfc in my area lately :/
[03:13] <gorilla> heh. I'll pick up. just let it run and then run it again when it finishes.
[03:15] <head_victim> It's scary this laptop, when cpu scaling kicks in it drops as low as 600mhz. It's really odd seeing 0.6 on conky :/
[03:20] <gorilla> heh. :-)
[04:03] <gorilla> head_victim: what about putting ISOs on the USB drive also?
[04:35] <Fudge> head_victim  mine drops to 800, it sux hey
[04:35] <Fudge> else its 1500x4 but never seen it up to 2.4which is supposed to be amd turbo mode
[06:30] <head_victim> gorilla: the aarnet mirror that I rsync is an archive and release mirror so it already has all the iso's as well
[06:31] <head_victim> Fudge: this is a single core pentium M from 6 or 7 years ago ;)
[06:32]  * OutOfControl laughs as he is reading about making mirrors :P
[06:33] <OutOfControl> head_victim: btw there is #ubuntu-mirrors
[06:35] <head_victim> OutOfControl: yeah, I'm kinda doing a little more than that. I've had the mirror for a year or two I'm setting up a portable installfest machine on a laptop.
[06:35] <OutOfControl> Ok
[06:35] <OutOfControl> intellfest machine?
[06:36]  * OutOfControl is happy he is on holidays
[06:36] <head_victim> It's a lamp server with dhcp for all the other computers, bind to remap archive.u.c to a local computer where the USB mirror is located and obviously a webserver to run the feeding of the mirror back out
[06:37] <head_victim> Basically taking this an my 48 port router in with a wireless access point and hey presto, instant lan with a local mirror.
[06:37] <OutOfControl> 48!
[06:38] <head_victim> It's an old cisco 10/100 beast that I picked up of ebay for 10 buckws
[06:38] <OutOfControl> Cool
[06:38]  * OutOfControl has too look for a new ISP soonish
[06:39] <head_victim> What's wrong with your current one?
[06:39] <Fudge> tpg OutOfControl 
[06:40] <OutOfControl> $50 for 3GB
[06:40] <Fudge> nice one head_victim , score, looked at cpufreqd?
[06:40] <Fudge> is it wireless OutOfControl 
[06:40] <OutOfControl> Yeah
[06:40] <OutOfControl> Pre-paid :P
[06:40] <Fudge> liveconnected.com.au mate have awesome plans
[06:40] <Fudge> really well worth looking at 
[06:41]  * head_victim is a Telstra fanboy
[06:41] <Fudge> 16.95 6000 free sms/mms national/international 1800 calls 3gig data
[06:41] <Fudge> allow tethering
[06:41] <head_victim> Fudge: I don't use it much so I just decided easier to let it be.
[06:41] <Fudge> yup
[06:41] <OutOfControl> head_victim: I have Telstra atm but I need to change from pre-paid
[06:41] <gorilla> head_victim: yes, I thought you'd be pulling from aarnet but it's very easy to say "Nope, don't need to isos."
[06:42] <head_victim> gorilla: yeah, but disk space is so cheap these days ;)
[06:42] <Fudge> hdd's went up
[06:42]  * OutOfControl is building a server
[06:43] <gorilla> head_victim: yep.. but data cap can still be annoying small.
[06:43] <head_victim> The initial setup rsync command I use it simply rsync -vtlrh --progress --stats --delete --exclude .~tmp~/ www.mirror.aarnet.edu.au::ubuntu /media/USBRepository/ubuntu
[06:43] <head_victim> gorilla: aarnet = free data for Telstra
[06:43] <OutOfControl> What plan do you have?
[06:44] <head_victim> OutOfControl: it doesn't matter, if you're on Bigpond anything other than prepaid, aarnet is free. Even on my wireless broadband aarnet is free data
[06:45] <OutOfControl> I meant is yours a good deal because anything is better then $50 for 3GB :P
[06:46] <head_victim> Oh I'm on HFC cable, I spend around 50 a month and get 50gb of metered usage but can often be double or more of that unmetered keeping the mirror synced.
[06:46] <head_victim> The wireless broadband I have is 10bucks a month for 400mb that I up to higher plans when I want to use it on holidays or whatever.
[06:46]  * OutOfControl screams
[06:48] <OutOfControl> If I got that 50GB would last me 10 months
[06:48] <head_victim> Yeah I only use abotu 20gb a month personally of metered usage
[06:48] <Fudge> my dls plan is 400gig adsl2+
[06:48] <Fudge> naked dsl with free voip and geographical phone number
[06:49] <head_victim> I'm boring though, not torrents or p2p for me. So by the time I sync the mirror unmetered there is only content usage for the wife and I left to be metered.
[06:50]  * OutOfControl doesn't do p2p nor torrents
[06:50] <Fudge> ah i like to downoad tv shows
[06:50] <OutOfControl> :p
[06:52] <OutOfControl> Fudge: Whos your ISP/ho much do you pay?
[06:53] <OutOfControl> head_victim: I am so sorry, but if possible could you please provide a link to your internet plan details?
[06:54] <Fudge> its netspace i.e iinet 
[06:54] <OutOfControl> Thanks
[06:54] <Fudge> cant get tpg here so have to pay more i pay 89
[06:54] <Fudge> OutOfControl  did you look at liveconnected?
[06:55] <OutOfControl> I'll do that now
[06:55]  * OutOfControl is doing a UUD session
[06:57] <OutOfControl> iinet looks good
[06:58] <Fudge> yeah theyre not bad
[06:58]  * OutOfControl 's mum's best friend has them
[06:59] <head_victim> OutOfControl: I'm just on the 400mb bigpond wireless deal. I get it for 10 bucks because I get discounts for having a bunch of stuff with them. I think it's 30 a month without the discounts.
[06:59] <OutOfControl> and the cable?
[07:00] <head_victim> It's the standard telstra plan, again discounted due to having so much crap with them. It's aroudn 70 without discounts.
[07:00] <OutOfControl> Ok
[07:00] <head_victim> I pay 180 a month for wireless, cable, 2 mobiles and a landline.
[07:00] <Fudge> so how much do u end up committing to every month with telstra
[07:00] <Fudge> ah u already answered lol
[07:01] <OutOfControl> :P
[07:14]  * OutOfControl wonders if BigPong and Telstra are the same
[07:15] <head_victim> Telstra internet is for business, bigpond internet is for residential customers
[07:15] <head_victim> No free data on Telstra internet, only Bigpond.
[07:15] <OutOfControl> Ok, good
[07:15]  * OutOfControl always gets confused
[07:28] <ausernamegoesher> Unfortunately, I now have to have Windows on my main machine for gaming. GParted reckons it's going to be 7 hours to resize the partition to make space. The worst part isn't the wait - (although, 7hrs is a LOOOOONG time). The worst part is not knowing if my data is going to make it through. *crosses fingers*
[07:29] <OutOfControl> ausernamegoesher: How big does it have to resize/
[07:29] <OutOfControl> ?
[07:29] <ausernamegoesher> also, for some reason IRC wasn't recognising my Nick - but this is somethinginteres :)
[07:29] <ausernamegoesher> OutOfControl: Drive = 2TB currently 400GB of data 
[07:29] <OutOfControl> Ah
[07:29] <ausernamegoesher> OutOfControl: That is, 400GB used
[07:29] <OutOfControl> Ok
[07:30] <OutOfControl> ausernamegoesher: How come IRC can't recognise your nick?
[07:30] <ausernamegoesher> OutOfControl: Not sure, the NickServ identify command didn't seem to register with Freenode for some reason 
[07:30] <ausernamegoesher> OutOfControl: It just didn't respond
[07:30] <OutOfControl> Try /nick to it
[07:31] <ausernamegoesher> just "/nick myusername"?
[07:31] <OutOfControl> Yeah
[07:32] <OutOfControl> Just wondering does a NTS folder have anything to do with Ubuntu/Linux?
[07:32] <somethinginteres> OutOfControl: there we go. Thanks 
[07:33] <OutOfControl> No problems
[07:35] <somethinginteres> OutOfControl: Do you have any knowleadge of GParted? Does 7hrs sound like a reasonable timeframe to resize that size drive with that data or does it sound like a Defcon 12 emergency? lol
[07:36] <head_victim> somethinginteres: sounds normal
[07:36] <head_victim> I tried to resize and move 1tb and it was going to take a day or so.
[07:36] <head_victim> I ended up formatting and starting over
[07:39] <OutOfControl> lol
[07:39] <head_victim> Fortunately this was the repository mirror so it's not hard to replace the data
[07:40] <OutOfControl> How big is your mirror/hard drive?
[07:40] <OutOfControl> for it
[07:41] <head_victim> 1tb, I think it only needs 500gb or so though
[07:41] <OutOfControl> Nice
[07:42]  * OutOfControl might set one up for fun once he changes ISPs
[07:44] <OutOfControl> head_victim: how did you learn to builds the mirror?
[07:44] <head_victim> rsync is all you need to get the data
[07:44] <OutOfControl> ok
[07:45] <OutOfControl> So would I just run:
[07:45] <OutOfControl> rsync -vtlrh --progress --stats --delete --exclude .~tmp~/ www.mirror.aarnet.edu.au::ubuntu /media/USBRepository/ubuntu
[07:45] <OutOfControl> Each day
[07:46] <head_victim> Depending on where you want your mirror change the last part
[07:46] <OutOfControl> Yep
[07:46] <head_victim> And I've found you need the --exclude for the aarnet mirror but if you use another I'm not sure if you still need it
[07:46] <OutOfControl> It sounds fun
[07:47] <OutOfControl> what does --exclude do?
[07:47] <head_victim> And if you don't --delete it will grow over time (as I found out the hardway, wondering why 1tb was running out of space)
[07:47] <OutOfControl> --delete deletes old packages right?
[07:47] <head_victim> the "-exclude .~tmp~/" skips the folders with .~tmp~ in them
[07:47] <OutOfControl> Ah ok
[07:47] <head_victim> the --delete makes it delete anything that's not currently on the source
[07:48] <OutOfControl> cool
[07:48] <head_victim> What I found was if you rsync when aarnet was syncing it would have a few tmps and stuff
[07:48] <somethinginteres> head_victim: Good to hear it sounds normal. :) 
[07:50] <head_victim> somethinginteres: yeah it blew me away as well
[07:50]  * OutOfControl hates Windows and NTS
[07:51] <somethinginteres> head_victim: yeah, crazy. Upon reflection I should've let it run over night. 
[07:51] <head_victim> somethinginteres: I did and it was still running :P
[07:52]  * OutOfControl is proberly going to make a tiny bit of money fixing a Win laptop
[07:52] <somethinginteres> head_victim: LOL 
[07:54] <head_victim> Yay, the sync is up to 2.5MB/s
[07:58] <jargonfactory> folks, have a great 0x7dc!
[08:00] <jargonfactory> as christel says, let it be the year of troll! :)
[08:02] <OutOfControl> lol
[08:08] <jargonfactory> :)
[08:09] <sagaci> head_victim: I might try that aarnet rsync thing over my 3G connection
[08:09] <head_victim> sagaci: go for it, as long as it's not prepaid it's unmetered
[08:10] <sagaci> bigpond 8
[08:10] <sagaci> 8)
[08:10] <sagaci> I have 1gig left til next thursday so I don't see why 500GB will hurt
[08:11] <head_victim> Hah so are you prepaid or not?
[08:11] <sagaci> bigpond, so postpaid
[08:11] <head_victim> Ah cool, well it'll be unmetered, but you'll chew 60 - 80 gb keeping it synced a month after the initial download
[08:12] <sagaci> have you partitioned your home backup repo or is it just a folder on the disk
[08:31] <OutOfControl> head_victim: So aer you going to have a web server running for the repo?
[08:31]  * OutOfControl just saw the list
[08:47] <head_victim> OutOfControl: yeah it's already working on the laptop
[08:47] <head_victim> My next step is to get the repo downloaded so I can actually test it to make sure it will work
[08:51] <head_victim> I'm thinking of sittin gin the lounge tonight and making up 20 or so network cables to take to make sure there's enough
[09:02] <OutOfControl> :P
[09:02]  * OutOfControl would of just made it a DirAlias in Apache as its easier
[09:03] <head_victim> Meh I have no idea what I'm doing, so I'm doing it whatever way I can get help to make it work :)
[09:04] <OutOfControl> :P
[09:08] <head_victim> Ah well 50gb in to the resync of the mirror
[09:08] <OutOfControl> :p
[09:08] <OutOfControl> How many more days is it?
[09:09] <OutOfControl> Until the install fest
[09:10] <sagaci> 6
[09:10] <OutOfControl> So the day before the meeting :P
[09:29] <OutOfControl> head_victim: Do you know if Optus has access to a unmetred mirror?
[09:30]  * OutOfControl is asking this because his mothly budget is $50 for internet and Bigpond is 60-70+
[09:34] <head_victim> OutOfControl: not to my knowledge, last I checked they had a mirror but it was metered
[09:34] <head_victim> I'd look at internode/iinet for those sort of prices
[09:34] <OutOfControl> Ok
[09:34] <head_victim> If it's a stand alone internet not bundled with anythign Telstra is going to not be cheap
[09:35] <OutOfControl> Yeah, I just found that out :P
[09:35] <head_victim> If it's for your parents and they already have other Telstra products then bear in mind the prices you see can be reduced by about 20 - 30 a month
[09:35] <OutOfControl> Na we don't
[09:36]  * OutOfControl also needs WiFi for his iPad
[09:48]  * OutOfControl is very mad at a Optus Sales person not knowing if there provided a unmetred mirror
[09:53] <OutOfControl> I am seeing things?
[09:59] <OutOfControl> head_victim:  ^^
[10:00] <head_victim> What did I miss?
[10:00] <OutOfControl> I'll show you my paste
[10:01] <OutOfControl> head_victim: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/789484/
[10:01] <OutOfControl> Somethings up in it
[10:01] <OutOfControl> my client didn't see you part so you are now doubles
[10:02] <head_victim> Hah lucky you?
[10:02] <OutOfControl> No!!
[10:02] <OutOfControl> ;p
[10:03] <OutOfControl> head_victim I'm sorry but could you please help me for a minute?
[10:03] <head_victim> Hang on climbing around udner desks pulling otu cables
[10:03] <OutOfControl> ok
[10:16] <OutOfControl> Dumb client
[10:16] <OutOfControl> .j #ubuntu-beginners-team,#ubuntu-beginners,#ubuntu-au-chat,#touchlay
[10:16] <OutOfControl> sorry
[10:28] <head_victim> sort of back
[10:29] <OutOfControl> head_victim: I've fixed the problem now P
[10:30]  * OutOfControl thinks he has found the plan he will ask his parents
[10:30] <OutOfControl> $30 10Gb on peak, 10Gb off
[10:30] <OutOfControl> +$30 phone :P
[10:31] <OutOfControl> iinrt
[10:31] <OutOfControl> iinrt*
[10:31] <OutOfControl> iinet*
[10:31]  * OutOfControl hates this keyboard
[10:34] <head_victim> 30 for mobile or landline?
[10:35] <OutOfControl> landline
[10:35] <OutOfControl> Plus they have a unmetred mirror/portal
[10:36] <head_victim> You in Melbourne?
[10:36] <head_victim> Are you able to get hfc?
[10:36] <OutOfControl> hfc?
[10:36] <jmscomtech> howdy all
[10:36] <head_victim> telstra or optus cable
[10:36] <jmscomtech> happy new years
[10:37]  * OutOfControl thinks so
[10:37] <head_victim> http://bc.whirlpool.net.au/bc/isp-1-1/telstra-bigpond-cable.htm?p=21926
[10:37] <OutOfControl> Ok
[10:37] <head_victim> For that you can get 50gb cable on 100/2 cable and a landline for 80 a month
[10:37] <jmscomtech> does anyone know why my razer naga mouse keeps overheating ? using ubuntu 11.10 and in adelaide its hit 40 c for past few days, but few mins on and its hot
[10:38] <head_victim> jmscomtech: faulty one? (happy new years)
[10:38] <OutOfControl> Well our budget is $50-60
[10:38] <OutOfControl> Gotta go everyone see you all tomorrow
[10:40] <jmscomtech> head_victim: no its fine just for some reason the past few days its been overheating i assume it may be to do with the heat wave we are in
[11:49] <head_victim> jmscomtech: hmm sounds a bit odd, only when it's charging or all the time?
[11:50] <jmscomtech> its fine now with a fan blowing around the room but seems to be all the time but my mobile broadband [telstra elite] device is same as well so im assuming its the heat
[11:51] <jmscomtech> i think the high dpi laser is overheating the mouse
[11:51] <jmscomtech> will the windows application for razer mouse work within wine to change the mouse settings or not realy?
[11:53] <gorilla> jmscomtech: probably not really. unless you are changing the info in the mouse itself.
[11:56] <jmscomtech> well i assume from razer products that they store the devices settings in the memory buffer of the product
[11:56] <jmscomtech> as the maurauder keyboard is still keyed into my configuration as is the mouse
[11:56] <jmscomtech> in terms of lighting and speed
[11:58] <gorilla> okay.. I guess it's worth a try. Otherwise move the computer table into a freezer :-P
[12:06] <jmscomtech> yeah get a better fan
[12:07] <jmscomtech> im actually happy my cpu is watercooled as its surviving in this heat
[12:28] <head_victim> jmscomtech: how old is it, if it's fairly new I'd be asking for a replacement
[12:30] <jmscomtech> bout 2 years old
[12:31] <head_victim> I could understand if it was while it was chargning, a lot of batteries heat up when being charged. If it's just in normal use, I'd say it's defective. Heatwave or not if it's too warm to be comfortable it's not functioning as it should be.