[03:09] sve najbolje u 2012! [04:14] takodje :D [05:50] hvale [09:44] ##### ##### [09:44] wtf [09:44] добро јутро! [09:45] više dpbar dan, al' ajde [09:55] promis: excuse me, what means "više"? [09:56] promis: and is "dpbar dan" some dialect, or short form, for "dobar dan"? [09:57] No, just, good old typo. [09:57] and "ajde" typo for "hajde" ? [09:57] promis: aha, and so what is "više"? [09:58] No, just, just good old dialect [09:58] * joostvb really should get himself some course is he wants to learn this language... [09:59] First, I wanted to answer in english, but I thought that you are serbian. [09:59] actually, i'm dutch [09:59] But this is the fine example to trust intuition [09:59] i c... [10:00] više = more [10:00] aha! [10:00] So, the answer is: More like good day. [10:00] it's not in my 1209-page dictionary.... :-/ [10:01] aha, i c, tnx. but then what means "al' ajde" ? [10:02] something like: but let it be [10:02] "al'" is abrev. for "ali" ? [10:02] al' is short for ali = but [10:02] :) [10:03] više dobar dan, al' ajde <- so that's without the typos, yes? [10:03] and it's people talk [10:03] yes, i guessed that [10:03] yes [10:04] H is often left out in street talk [10:04] * joostvb is happy he learned this nice sentence :) [10:04] like Hleb = leb = bread [10:05] nice [10:05] Hajde = ajde = c'mon [10:05] dobre, bre [10:05] ^ is that street talk? [10:06] Dobro bre [10:06] ther is no dobre [10:07] aha, i c [10:07] either dobro or dobar [10:07] well, actually there is word "dobre" but it is adjectiv for dobar = good in female [10:07] a [10:07] plural [10:08] let's say: Budite dobre bre, ili će tatica da vas kazni. [10:09] wow... [10:09] afk српска кафа, brb [10:09] ?? good yeah, but ?? ??? to your ??? [10:09] pfff... [10:11] You tried to translate the sentance? [10:11] ?? good yeah, or ?? ??? to your ??? [10:11] yes, i did. that was my 2nd attempt [10:12] not good at all [10:12] će is not from "to be", that would be "ce", yes? [10:12] o my ..... [10:14] * joostvb looks in dictiorary [10:14] budite is from "to wake up" [10:14] će is "to be" [10:14] Haha, no [10:14] o, i c [10:15] and budite is also "to be" [10:15] I've already made english translation [10:16] i'ts not literate, but more in ebglish spirit [10:16] you want to see= [10:16] ? [10:16] budući is being; buditi is 'to wake up', says my dictionary [10:17] budite is "to be" in plural [10:17] omg... [10:17] Serbian is much complex than english [10:18] tatica: i have no clue, not in dictionary, nothing similar is in :( [10:18] complex: yes, _that_ i have found out! :) [10:18] make other forms of words by randomly permutating letters [10:18] Tatica is noun, a varioation of Tata [10:18] that really pisses me off. o well :) [10:18] little tata [10:19] i c [10:19] yes [10:19] well it's not little tata exact english word is Daddy [10:20] kazni is smt about punishment, tells my dictionary [10:20] so tatica means little daddy [10:20] yes it's verb [10:21] no tatica = daddy [10:21] or "little dad" :) [10:21] if that what daddy means [10:22] I'm no lingvist, yo know. [10:22] ili će tatica da vas kazni = or daddy will punish you [10:22] yes [10:22] \o/ [10:23] Budite dobre bre, ili će tatica da vas kazni = be good, or daddy will punish you [10:24] this "će" is very strange. [10:24] * joostvb tries to grok the construction here [10:24] yes that is correct. My translation was: Be good now, or daddy will punish you all. [10:24] "you _all_ " ? [10:25] "vas" means you plural? [10:25] 'će kazni' = '(he) wil punish' ? [10:26] As I said, I've translated it in english spirit, and to be more understandable. Because there is no obvious plural in english. [10:26] yes, i understand, ok [10:26] vas is you plural [10:27] 'će kazni' = '(he) will punish' ? [10:27] well, it should be more like: Girls, be good now, or daddy will punish you all. [10:27] is "Budite" some female form? [10:27] yes [10:28] wow, cool [10:28] female plural of "to be" [10:28] very nice [10:28] and this postfix for making stuff bigger, that's a nice feature of language too [10:28] first language i've seen which has this [10:29] 'će kazni' = '(he) will punish' ? -> yes: (on) će (he) will [10:29] ok [10:30] 'vas' is female? or could refer to male too? [10:30] no sex in "vas" [10:30] ok [10:31] thanks for this lesson! [10:31] Nema na čemu. [10:32] damn it, my dictionary is completely useless [10:32] čemu : no clue :( [10:32] nema is 'nothing' [10:33] nema = there is not [10:33] * joostvb guesses: 'no thanks needed' [10:33] or smt like that [10:33] yes [10:33] Nothing to thaks for [10:33] :) [10:34] Just remembre whole sentance [10:34] yes [10:35] i know "hvale". what other sentence can you make with čemu? [10:35] "hvale" is only used just like that, not as part of sentence, right? [10:36] Serbian is complex and precise like linux. Every thing must be determent [10:36] yes :) [10:36] hvale = they praised [10:37] hvala = thanks [10:37] oops [10:39] http://mdcc.cx/~joostvb/plaatjes/20110105-beograd/IMG_4805.rot.JPG <- i can even see "hvala" in the streets! [10:39] and i keep making this mistake... o well [10:39] what other sentence can you make with čemu? [10:42] hvala + čemu ? of just any thing with čemu? [10:42] any thing with čemu [10:43] i'd like to learn about the diffences in usage of hvala vs čemu [10:44] here: Na čemu si? [10:44] or just: Čemu? [10:44] 'si' = 'you are' [10:45] yes [10:46] Na čemu si = you are to be thanked [10:46] or something like that? [10:46] i don't get it [10:47] Haha, I see your confusion [10:47] čemu is not linked with hvala [10:48] Nema na čemu = nothing to thank for [10:48] what is 'Na čemu si?' ? [10:48] On what you are? [10:48] wtf!? [10:49] 'Na čemu si?' = 'On what you are?' !? [10:49] well, more like: On what you are on? [10:49] like in 'what are you up to?' [10:49] as in " what are you planning to do" [10:49] yes? [10:49] no, more like: On what drug you are on. [10:50] o! [10:50] what is literal meaning of čemu then? [10:50] I don't know. It can mean a lot's of different things, depends on context [10:51] damn it... :( [10:51] o well [10:51] Čemu? = Why? but in sens of: Why all of this? [10:52] in 'Na čemu si?', 'čemu' means 'what" is in "what are you on", yes? [10:52] yes [10:53] 'Nema na čemu' = 'it was nothing' ! [10:53] yes [10:53] like in 'de nada' in spanish! [10:53] * joostvb gets it [10:53] finally :) [10:54] but I can also say: Nije to ništa = it was nothing [10:54] that is literate translation [10:54] double negation, yes? [10:54] da [10:55] well in spanish nada = ništa [10:55] yup [10:56] "Nema na čemu" is common expresion. [10:56] ye, i vaguely remember having heard it [10:57] it has a nice rythm [10:57] Da, može se reći. [10:58] može = it is possible [10:58] da [10:58] može se reći = one could say that [10:58] ? [10:59] exactly [10:59] \o/ [11:00] how do you say happy new year? [11:00] Sretna nova godina. [11:01] hvala [11:02] Nema na čemu. [11:02] pozdrav [11:02] HI! [11:02] hello :D [11:03] vidim imaš društvo :D [11:03] Добар дан [11:03] Aha, holanđanin [11:03] hi joostvb [11:03] hi all [11:03] heppy new year [11:03] Sretna nova godina! [11:04] oho [11:04] naučio je srpski :D [11:04] društvo = auslander = stranger, yes? [11:05] what\s naučio? [11:05] lern [11:05] learning: yes, trying to... [11:05] yap [11:05] learning = naučio [11:06] društvo = company [11:07] aha, nic [11:07] nice [11:08] vidim imaš društvo = i see we have company [11:08] vidim imaš društvo = i see there is company [11:08] vidim imaš društvo = i see you have company [11:08] o! [11:09] imam = i have [11:09] yes [11:09] ima = he has/ there is [11:09] yes [11:09] ok, check [11:09] :D [11:10] anybody from belgrade here? [11:11] i go there pretty often [11:11] im 60Km from Belgade [11:12] batajnica? [11:12] no [11:12] Smederevo [11:12] a, have been there 2 weeks ago :) [11:13] near the river [11:13] lol [11:13] :) [11:13] * joostvb is from Eindhoven, fwiw [11:15] ok, i'm leaving for some work, c u later, ciao [11:16] bb [11:29] i drove with car from Deliblato to Šušara [11:29] that's an interesting road [11:29] i should've use a 4x4 car... [11:30] hehehe :D [11:30] it looked better on the map we used :) [11:30] :) [13:13] Koliko je pouzdan ssh za preko interneta? Razmišljam da napravim pristup jednom računaru. Šta predlažete? [13:14] pa mislim da je ssh naj sigurniji za to [13:14] samo promeni port [13:14] ako sa port 22 stavis na npr 550022 resio si problem sa 90% idiota :D [13:14] Aha, znači ssh može na poizvoljnom portu? [13:15] da, samo onda ides ssh -p port_broj user@domain... [13:15] kuul, onda ću da razmotrim ssh [13:15] Hvala ljudovi [13:15] i ostavio bih xforwarding ali bih disablovao root login [13:18] podesis sve to u sshd_config u /etc/ssh [13:18] e da [13:18] i srecna nova godina!! ^^ [13:20] Srećna i tebo [13:20] tebi [13:21] koliko sam razumeo ovaj xforwarding, to znači da mogu da pokrenem grafičku aplikaciju na udaljenom računaru, a da kod sebe vidim njen prozor? [13:27] tako je [13:29] tacnije da budem precizan [13:29] aplikacija koju pokrenes na tvom serveru se nakaci na X tvog kompa [13:30] tako da ne moras da imas gui na serveru [13:32] Pa to je simpa. Onda nema šta dalje da razmišljam. To sa mogućnošću i upotrebe gui ja mi je samo plus za ssh [13:34] jedino sto ti treba za xforwarding je kada se kacis preko ssh, da dodas -CX [13:34] -X kaze ssh da tuneluje X konekciju [13:35] Момци, срећна Вам Нова 2012.-а. [13:35] Желим да ова година свима буде боља и успешнија уз здравље и искрене осмехе. [13:36] hvala takođe [13:36] sweetofserbia: sve najbolje i tebi i da dobijemo jos koleginica u zajednici i na ircu ^^ [13:37] Молим, хвала лепо :) [13:38] Хвала пууууно, хе, хе, хе, препоручићу вас :) [13:48] Srećna nova i do mene [13:49] :D [13:50] Haha, g-r-e-š-k-a, što bi rekle kase u maksiju [13:50] samo ć [13:50] lol [13:51] samo sam čekao da vidim dali će da primetiš :D [14:07] Puuuno Ti hvala! [14:08] http://www.kd-pavza.si/datoteke/200412231201341.swf [14:14] Ima li neko iskustvo sa kineskim telefonima? [14:15] kojim telefonima ? [14:15] Tacnije zasto im pada mreza na "Vipu", mada ja pre godinu dana nisam imala taj problem dok sam imala takav [14:15] Kineskim kopijama [14:15] pa to može da bude i do provajdera [14:16] nemora da znači da je do telefona [14:16] Drugarica ima problem sa "Vip" mrezom na kopiji "Ajfona5" [14:16] Neeeee, ja imam "Vip", bukvalno mi mreza nikada ne pada [14:17] iskreno da ti kažem ja svima preporučujem da zaobilaze vip u širokom luku [14:17] Imala sam pre godinu dana kopiju "Ajfona 4" bukvalno nikakav problem nisam imala, takodje je unutra bila "Vip" kartica [14:17] Zasto? [14:17] zato što mnogo ljudi koje znam da imaju vip [14:17] stalno imaju neke probleme [14:18] Zato sto "Vup" radi na drugoj frekvenciji, iskreno meni "Vip" gde god da sam ima najbolji signal [14:18] ja već deset godina koristim telenor [14:19] i nikad do sad nikakvih problema [14:19] i pre telenora [14:19] kako se beše zvao tad [14:19] Ja sam bila "Telenorov" veliki pobornik, jos uvek koristim i njih, ali stalno mi gubi signal prilikom razgovora [14:20] čudno [14:20] Mislis dok je bio karicev? [14:20] da [14:20] "Mobtel" [14:20] e tačno [14:20] Jedva se setih [14:20] davno beše [14:21] Ma nije, cini ti se :) Hoces da kazes da smo puno omatorili, e pa gresis :) [14:21] hehehe [14:21] neznam za tebe [14:21] ali ja bogami [14:21] :D [14:22] Meni vreme leti, pogotovu otkada udjoh u dvadesete, zato kazem cuti :) [14:22] ajoj [14:22] dvadesete [14:22] beše davno :D [14:22] Sta islis da u kineski reinstaliram "Linux"? [14:23] koji je model? [14:23] Uh, mogu da se tesim onda sam jedna od najmladjih ovde :) [14:23] pa i nisi baš ali ajde :D [14:23] Pise unutra: "Phone 4GS+" [14:23] ima ođe i školaraca [14:25] :) "Na mladima svet ostaje" [14:25] tako je :D [14:25] vi biste bre samo što pre na nas to da svalite :P [14:26] ti da ćutiš :D [14:26] sweetofserbia: na sve koji bi što pre u penziju. :D [14:27] hehehe [14:27] Pa sad ko se oseća prozvanim... [14:27] Mada meni nije problem, ja volim da radim. ^^ [14:27] :D :D :D Uh, sada mi je lakse, daleko sam ja od penzije :D [14:27] sweetofserbia, iphone4 nema linux [14:27] već iOS5 [14:28] to je aple OS [14:28] To je neki kineski OS? [14:28] ne ne [14:28] Neee, ja govorim o kopiji, kineskoj [14:28] već aple os [14:28] pa nema veze [14:28] isto koristi iOS [14:29] Znaci tu ne moze da se uradi "Linux"? [14:29] to već nebi znao [14:29] ček da vidimo šta kaže google [14:29] A da se skine odnekud taj OS?, Pa da se reinstalira? [14:29] http://www.readwriteweb.com/mobile/2010/11/china-mobile-joins-linux-foundation.php Jedino to nadjoh [14:30] aha [14:30] nađoh [14:30] izgleda da može da se instalira android [14:30] http://linuxoniphone.blogspot.com/2010/04/ive-been-working-on-this-quietly-in.html [14:34] Moze li pomoc kako? Nisam reinstalirala sistem na telefonu [14:34] uh [14:34] iskreno nisam ni ja [14:35] srećom imamo programere među nama :D [14:35] Atlantic777, [14:35] jel imaš neki predlog? [14:37] Kupicu ti cokoladu :) [14:37] hehehehe :D [14:38] Hm, vodicu te u kafanu? [14:38] op, op [14:38] lol [14:39] kako se odma javlja :D [14:39] :D Ato je lozinka :D [14:39] * A to je lozinka :D [14:39] hm, nisam se ni ja nešto igrao sa telefonima, jedino što sam openmoko malo gledao... [14:39] mogu da proverim, ode na todo [14:40] cool [14:40] nema ga fantastic [14:40] on se bakće sa time [14:40] jel on rootovao onu svoju igračku? [14:40] e znaš ko se još zeza s time? [14:40] mislim da jeste [14:40] Uroš [14:41] jes bre [14:41] ali nema ni njega :( [14:41] Pa ništa, pokrenućemo temu na forumu... [14:41] mogli bi [14:42] da napravimo jednu temu za androide [14:42] Momci, obojcu vas vodim u kafanu :) [14:42] opa :D [14:42] Sto bi turci rekli taverna serefe :D [14:42] sviđa mi se ovo "momci" :D:D [14:42] :D [15:00] Atlantic777: je mlad za kafanu [15:00] :D [15:05] Izgubio se među svi onim čikama koji galame, "eksiraju" i hvataju konabaricu za dupe. [15:06] ahahahhahahaa [15:11] Ju, promis, ja u takvoj kafani nisam bila [15:13] , Nemoj da ga kvaris takvim "Kafanama" [15:14] Pa i bolje da nisi, nije to mesto za osetljive duše kakva je Atlantic777 [15:14] khm... [15:16] u mom kraju je sad popularna kombinacija kafane i rnr [15:16] Bolje ih vodi u malu kafanu, tzv. kafič [15:16] i nema problema sa matorim čikicama :P [15:17] Ova digitslixscijs je ubila te matore čike [15:17] Atlantic777 sta je to "rnr"? [15:17] auuu.... [15:18] rape and roll [15:18] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_and_roll [15:18] "Malu kafanu"? Gde je to, od "Malih" jedino znam za "Malo Takovo" [15:18] e sad, šta je to danas, to je malo diskutabilno [15:19] Atlantic, mislis na ovo: [15:19] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2BZnwIdIlA&feature=related [15:19] ? [15:19] e batalite kafane, bolje da gledate kako da okrpite telefon :D [15:20] Atlantic, pomagaj :D ja bih, al' me stalno mame, patim od nesanice zbog njih, nagomilalo mi se vesa za sredjivanje... [15:42]