[00:00] <penguin42> HNY all
[00:00] <jacobw> happy new year!
[00:00] <jacobw> fireworks from big ben :o
[00:00] <Supermanintights> HNY all!!!!
[00:01] <jacobw> i will solve my rubiks cube in 2012
[00:02] <popey> hah
[00:02] <DJones> Happy new year all
[00:02] <Supermanintights> christel,  - you're two minutes late....
[00:03] <Supermanintights> jacobw, i spent a month at work constantly learning how to solve the rubiks cube
[00:03] <christel> i know! :(
[00:03] <Supermanintights> i'm still not great at it
[00:03] <Supermanintights> but i can do it (slowly)
[00:03] <jacobw> i got one for christmas
[00:03] <Supermanintights> how people can complete them in seconds is just stupid
[00:04] <jacobw> there's a record for doing it with chopsticks
[00:04] <penguin42> I think there is a relatively simple algorithm you can learn for it - never bothered
[00:04] <jacobw> its an area of serious mathematical study
[00:04] <Supermanintights> haha
[00:05] <penguin42> jacobw: Did you see the machine someone built to do it?
[00:05] <jacobw> penguin42: no
[00:05] <Supermanintights> it's a matter of learning how to do the corners, then the centre cubes
[00:05] <Supermanintights> then how to move around without losing the position
[00:05] <penguin42> jacobw: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=052JJGBxFH0
[00:06] <Supermanintights> i can do it on instinct better than i can thinking about it - that's when i normally screw up and it becomes a nightmare trying to recover it
[00:06] <greg-g> tonytiger: thanks man. happy New Year!
[00:06] <Supermanintights> fml penguin42 - thats amazing
[00:07] <penguin42> yeh, very neat
[00:07] <Supermanintights> reminds me of this:
[00:07] <Supermanintights> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUvind4t7Pk
[00:10] <jacobw> wow
[00:10] <jacobw> the machines are awesome
[00:10] <penguin42> Supermanintights: Haha nice trick
[00:11] <Supermanintights> i'd love to build one
[00:11] <Supermanintights> to do what - no idea
[00:11] <Supermanintights> but still, that sort of thing is brilliant
[00:11]  * jacobw considers the 'corners' idea
[00:12] <Supermanintights> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMghvnqDhT8&feature=related - a related video (apparently), but really amusing
[00:37] <awilkins> Happy New Year!
[00:37] <awilkins> The other 58 people are lurking....
[00:37] <christel> happy new year awilkins ;)
[00:37] <MartijnVdS> awilkins: you too :)
[00:38]  * jacobw jumps on awilkins 
[00:40] <AlanBell> happy new year o/
[00:40] <christel> happy new year <3
[00:41] <MartijnVdS> happy new year AlanBell and everyone else :)
[00:41] <AlanBell> the fireworks outside czajkowski's window looked good on the telly
[00:43] <awilkins> We lit a couple of those chinese lanterns. Had a couple of "oh crap, we've incinerated the neighbours garden" moments too.
[00:44] <Supermanintights> ok, windows onlilne
[00:44] <Supermanintights> computer seems to be running pretty slow considering i've just reformatted - normally expect it to run faster, it was slightly laggy on ubuntu as well - but i just thought that might be ubuntu
[00:45] <awilkins> Your electron have overindulged and need to lose their "Christmas pudding"
[00:47] <Supermanintights> fml
[00:47] <Supermanintights> guys - the bootscreen for dualboots
[00:47] <Supermanintights> can i extend the time i have to choose an OS?
[00:48] <penguin42> sure
[00:48] <awilkins> Yes, it's controlled by the config file
[00:48] <Supermanintights> it's only 8 seconds and it feels like if i blink or something, i've logged straight into ubuntu - when if i need to go back into windows, it's a waste of time to restart again
[00:48] <Supermanintights> !config
[00:48] <awilkins> You can switch it off, change the default, etc
[00:48] <penguin42> Supermanintights: See /etc/default/grub
[00:48] <awilkins> You can even make it sticky
[00:48] <penguin42> Supermanintights: I think it's GRUB_TIMEOUT
[00:49] <Supermanintights> sticky?
[00:49] <penguin42> (is there a GUI for tweeking that stuff?)
[00:49] <awilkins> So the last OS you boot is the next OS you boot
[00:49] <awilkins> Good for Windows Updatahons
[00:49] <Supermanintights> hmm
[00:49] <Supermanintights> can i edit it so it's like 30 seconds, but runs sticky?
[00:49] <Supermanintights> so i got enough time to do something, but if i'm not around it still runs sticky
[00:50] <jacobw> in grub1 it was 'timeout 10' in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[00:50] <jacobw> i think its more complex in grub2
[00:50] <penguin42> jacobw: Yeh you edit the /etc/default/grub and then run update-grub
[00:50] <awilkins> I've done it for grub1
[00:51] <Supermanintights> i've found the timeout in /grub
[00:51] <awilkins> On my MythTV box, it boots in 3s and the next OS is a poweroff kernel (for the RTC wakeup setter)
[00:51] <Supermanintights> how do i amend the sticky thing?
[00:52] <awilkins> Add a savew default instruction to each entry you want to stick- don't remember the syntax
[00:52] <awilkins> pardon my rubbish phonetypos too
[00:52]  * Supermanintights watches as awilkins suggestions flies miles over his head
[00:53] <awilkins> There's a script for each grub entry - in grub1 at least, part of the language lets you set the default entry
[00:55] <Supermanintights> hmm
[00:55] <jacobw> working out the syntax of each configuration is part of the fun of linux :p
[00:55] <Supermanintights> yeah yeah
[00:56] <Supermanintights> found a guide that suggests using some gui program
[00:56] <Supermanintights> i'll try that :P
[00:56] <Supermanintights> fully aware i'm a wuss and a coward
[00:57] <awilkins> I started my Linux career on Gentoo
[00:57] <awilkins> Scary.
[00:59] <Supermanintights> i started my career with ubuntu and lots of help from #ubuntu-uk
[00:59] <Supermanintights> :P
[00:59] <Supermanintights> so the gui turned out to be pish
[00:59] <Supermanintights> stuff it, 45 seconds is long enough for now
[01:00] <Supermanintights> i'll worry about the sticky thing when it starts really irritating me
[01:00] <awilkins> Try ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1304761
[01:00] <Supermanintights> or i'll follow that ^ :D
[01:01] <Supermanintights> fml - i don't understand hardly any of that, well not enough that i'll figure out what to do myself
[01:01] <Supermanintights> ok.
[01:01] <Supermanintights> brb - going back to windows
[02:09] <mattt> unz unz unz
[02:09] <penguin42> ?
[02:14] <mattt> penguin42: raving, what else?
[02:27] <penguin42> swearing at bfd
[02:32] <penguin42> right, now I can go to bed - I've hacked it into working!
[02:36] <imexil> Here is a wish for 2012: Finally having an easy to follow hands-on tutorial for packaging debian/Ubuntu packages available ;-) Happy 2012 <:-)
[02:37] <hamitron> imexil, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete
[02:40] <imexil> My emphasis was on "easy to follow" but maybe that's mutual exclusive to the debian way of things :)
[02:40] <Supermanintights> goddamnit, windows won't boot properly
[02:41] <Supermanintights> with me having a dualboot with ubuntu - should i seek assistance here, or on ##windows?
[02:41] <hamitron> imexil, http://users.telenet.be/mydotcom/howto/linux/package.htm
[02:42] <hamitron> tbh, with more features, comes complication in making such things
[02:43] <imexil> hamitron: Thanks for the second link. That one I haven't seen yet. At least it's not nearly 100 pages long (which might put off some people). Going to look into that one too. Thanks
[02:43] <hamitron> I'd recommend you try packaging simple things first, get a feel for it
[02:43] <hamitron> then build yourself up
[02:52] <jutnux> HEY GUYS
[02:52] <jutnux> HAPPY NEW YEAR
[03:06] <rileyp> when I type this from a terminal it works but in a script it doesnt whats wrong?  echo -e "VOLM20  \r" > /dev/ttyUSB0
[03:07] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Gareth France] To infinity and beyond! - http://cliftonts.co.uk/cubuntu/?p=40
[09:22] <daubers> Morning
[09:26] <daubers> Having to use Windows this morning and keep finding myself moving the mouse to the left edge of the screen to get the window changer up
[10:07] <AlanBell> morning all
[10:09] <daubers> Morning AlanBell
[10:11] <daubers> AlanBell: How's the OpenGL book?
[10:12] <AlanBell> looks good on my bookshelf
[10:12] <daubers> Heh :)
[10:12] <AlanBell> I haven't finished the Terry Pratchett I got yet
[10:12] <daubers> Snuff?
[10:12] <AlanBell> yes
[10:12] <daubers> Not read that yet :(
[10:13] <daubers> Got 2 OU books and the first Game of Thrones book to finish first
[10:13] <daubers> Then the OpenGL one
[10:13] <daubers> then I should have some more OU ones by that point
[10:16] <daubers> Looking forward to the OpenGL book, the aim is to create a 3d representation of my flat (or house if I've moved by then) with sensor readings in the correct rooms at the points where the sensors are hidden
[10:18] <mattt> learning me some django w/ officespaced.co.uk, suggestions welcome :P
[11:01] <daubers> Ah ha! Better
[11:04] <christel> morning lovelies
[11:04] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[11:07] <AlanBell> christel o/
[11:08]  * daubers prepares to head over to see the old people
[11:09] <christel> oh wow AlanBell, it got really big before you got rid of it!
[11:10] <AlanBell> it did, yes :)
[11:11] <christel> is Mrs. Bell happy now that it's gone? ;)
[11:11] <AlanBell> she is out, hasn't seen it yet
[11:11] <christel> aah
[11:15] <AlanBell> for those lacking context https://plus.google.com/u/0/109175303602657131317/posts/cKUTmfMREh4
[11:16] <jacobw> wow
[11:17] <sagaci> ha
[12:07] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Alan Pope] Python 2d Physics Libraries - http://popey.com/blog/2012/01/01/python-2d-physics-libraries/
[13:11] <czajkowski> aloha
[13:22] <AlanBell> hi czajkowski
[13:22] <czajkowski> hows you
[13:22] <AlanBell> fine, I had a beardectomy earlier
[13:22] <AlanBell> how were the fireworks?
[13:22] <czajkowski> amazing
[13:22] <czajkowski> sky was so bright
[13:26] <nigelb> AlanBell: nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[13:27] <nigelb> AlanBell: beardectomy :(
[13:28] <AlanBell> or to put it another way the beard had an alanectomy
[13:31] <penguin42> AlanBell: But! Why?
[13:32] <AlanBell> it wanted to move on and live a free life of it's own, unhindered by the Alan that was attached to it
[13:34] <brobostigon> that almost makes it sound as if it had conciousness and selfawareness and life of its own,
[13:35] <penguin42> brobostigon: Think of the fibres of the beard as the axons
[13:35] <brobostigon> hmmm.
[13:45] <penguin42> the computation is done in the bread crumbs
[14:22] <jacobw> oh, its sherlock tonight :)
[14:22] <penguin42> nod
[15:23] <Supermanintights> hey guys, HNY
[15:47] <jacobw> ok
[15:47] <jacobw> 'flash my desire hd' sounds wrong :|
[15:48] <swat_> hi all
[15:48] <jacobw> hi
[15:48] <jacobw> → out
[15:49] <swat_> how's it going?
[15:54]  * darael swears profusely at an Indian computer manufacturer, but congratulates himself.
[15:56] <darael> It /should/ /not/ be necessary to do unetbootin/mini.iso->memory stick->copy to hard drive partition, followed by ntldr->grub4dos->installer.
[16:07] <DJones> Good afternoon, happy new year etc to all
[16:25] <zleap> happy new year
[18:49] <daubers> Has anyone got any experience with electronic door locks?
[18:51] <moreati> Nope, hackaday sometimes has projects involving them
[18:51] <dwatkins> daubers: only in so far as I disabled the lock which was used to break into my car recently
[18:53] <daubers> dwatkins: Wah?
[18:54] <dwatkins> daubers: my car got broken into by some annoying person with a screwdriver, it has both manaual and IR-based locking mechanisms
[18:54] <daubers> I see
[18:55] <dwatkins> Coincidentally I'm currently in the same friend's house outside which it was broken into.
[18:55] <daubers> Heh :)
[18:55]  * daubers hides the screwdrivers
[18:55] <dwatkins> We're watching idiots walking around on the street via a webcam from a window upstairs.
[18:56] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: from your fallout shelter bunker?
[18:56] <dwatkins> MartijnVdS: sadly no, just a 2-up/2-down
[18:59]  * daubers waits for an iso to download from his backup store
[18:59] <mattt> dwatkins: where's this?
[18:59] <dwatkins> mattt: Doncaster
[19:00] <dwatkins> I reported it to the police, but they exhausted all lines of inquiry (i.e. asked at the cash & carry with no results, I guess)
[19:04] <daubers> Also, does anyone have any recommendations for a digital voice recorder? I keep meaning to pick one up
[19:04] <MartijnVdS> daubers: do you want "podcast quality" or "transcription quality"?
[19:04] <daubers> Uhhh..... probably the first one
[19:04] <MartijnVdS> because for the second part any old MP3 player with mic will do :)
[19:05] <daubers> I want to be able to record 2 people in a room with some acceptable quality level :)
[19:05] <MartijnVdS> daubers: askpopey.com :)
[19:07] <daubers> MartijnVdS: Yeah :) I've been eyeing up one of these for a little while http://www.gak.co.uk/en/zoom-h1/40763
[19:16] <directhex> daubers: pull out your cryptographic sequencer, and hack the control box. or use a remote battarang if it's button-operated
[19:16] <Myrtti> AAAAARRR, almost forgot Sherlock is on tonight
[19:17]  * MartijnVdS would watch it, but I have to sleep
[19:17] <daubers> directhex: I was with you until the end of the word your
[19:17] <MartijnVdS> Helped a friend moving today
[19:17] <MartijnVdS> move*
[19:17]  * directhex flings a freeze grenade at daubers & flees
[19:18]  * daubers diagnoses directhex with "old batman TV series" disease
[19:18] <MartijnVdS> KAPOW
[19:19] <daubers> directhex: Never forget your anti-shark spray
[19:20] <directhex> daubers: that'd be pretty useful! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsQ4_v3ij0E&feature=related
[19:23] <daubers> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsQ4_v3ij0E&feature=related
[19:23] <daubers> stupid putty
[19:24] <daubers> oh dear
[19:33] <popey> Evening all
[19:34] <MartijnVdS> \o popester
[19:37] <moreati> Myrtti: thank you, thank you, thank you. I _had_ forgotten
[19:39] <Supermanintights> hey guys, if i want to associate a file type with a particular program, but it's not showing in the list, what's the terminal command?
[19:39] <andylockran> howdy all - happy new year
[19:40] <MartijnVdS> \o andylockran. and you too :)
[19:43] <Supermanintights> !filetypes
[19:43] <Supermanintights> !help
[19:43] <Supermanintights> !commands
[19:44] <AlanBell> !default | Supermanintights
[19:45] <Supermanintights> cheers AlanBell  - for some reason it's not showing in the list, the program i want to set the default for
[19:46] <ali1234> that's fairly common
[19:46] <ali1234> it's because the program isn't integrated properly with gnome
[19:47] <daubers> popey: Any recommendations for a portable audio recorder thingy?
[19:47] <Supermanintights> ali1234,  any suggestions on how i can change that?
[19:47] <AlanBell> Supermanintights: file a bug against the application and reference http://library.gnome.org/admin/system-admin-guide/stable/mimetypes-registering.html.en
[19:47] <ali1234> you have to create a .desktop file for the program
[19:48] <Supermanintights> AlanBell, I'd like to file a bug - but something tells me it'd be against the rules, which is why i'm trying to keep this as a general question for filetypes, rather than specifics
[19:48] <ali1234> why would it be against the rules to file a bug?
[19:48] <AlanBell> what rules??
[19:49] <Supermanintights> ok, i'm looking to bind nzb with sabnzbdplus
[19:49] <AlanBell> oh, not an application that is in ubuntu then
[19:49] <Supermanintights> because of the nature of that filetype - i assume it'd be against the rules
[19:49] <Supermanintights> that's why i was trying to be general, rather than specific
[19:49] <ali1234> no, it's packaged in ubuntu
[19:50] <AlanBell> so it is, yeah, file a bug
[19:50] <Supermanintights> that's ok? even though it's for nzbs?
[19:50] <ali1234> did you install the distro package?
[19:50] <Supermanintights> i followed the instructions on sabzbdplus website ali1234
[19:50] <ali1234> you installed it from the ppa?
[19:50] <Supermanintights> all the terminal commands - it normall associates, but i've not been given any option, and can't find any options in the settings
[19:51] <Supermanintights> http://wiki.sabnzbd.org/install-ubuntu-repo - that's what i did
[19:51] <moreati> Supermanintights: much as Ubuntu takes inspiration from OS X, it adheres to the principal of use it for any purpose - that if you want to make a baby muncher machine - noone will put a no baby muncher clause in the license
[19:51] <AlanBell> "This is an unofficial package from an unofficial repository. Don't file bugs about packages installed from this repository in Ubuntu's bug tracker, instead complain right here in this topic."
[19:52] <ali1234> test the distro package
[19:52] <ali1234> if that doesn't work, file a bug on launchpad too
[19:53] <Supermanintights> ok cooll
[19:58] <popey> daubers: to record what?
[20:01] <daubers> popey: A couple of people talking in the room, it's a memory aid thing for myself (and possibly for a future project, but thats a long way off)
[20:05] <popey> daubers: zoom h1
[20:05] <popey> probably cheaper voice dictation devices around, but thats the one I'd buy
[20:05] <daubers> ta, that's more or less confirmed what the interwebs in general was telling me :)
[20:05] <popey> hah, excellent
[20:05] <jacobw> sherlock on bbc2 at 2010
[20:05]  * popey has the PVR set
[20:06] <ali1234> just set mythtv to record it in HD
[20:06] <DJones> jacobw: But its 2012 :)
[20:07] <jacobw> hmm, gnome terminal on precise is giving my alt+<left>/<right> combinations to irssi as D/C
[20:07] <popey> speaking of 12.04
[20:07] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/bootcharts/mbp/mbp-precise-20120101-1.png
[20:07] <popey> thats depressingly long
[20:09] <zleap> popey, what is that a diagram of ?
[20:09] <jacobw> ~60 seconds to greeter?
[20:12] <aquarius> yo
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[20:13] <jacobw> hi
[20:13] <Myrtti> SHERLOOOOCCCKKKK
[20:13] <Myrtti> \o/
[20:13] <aquarius> sherlock isn't on for another hour yet, is it?
[20:13] <Myrtti> no, it just started
[20:13] <aquarius> cra!
[20:13]  * jacobw is rushing to install flash for this event
[20:13] <popey> its on now
[20:14] <aquarius> off to bbc watch live webpage for me  ;)
[20:14]  * DJones watches Treasure Island while recording Sherlock
[20:15]  * aquarius laughs at all the in-jokes for people who know the original stories :)
[20:15] <jacobw> excellent, sound doesn't work
[20:17]  * mattt is taping and watching later
[20:28]  * jacobw feels more productive with unity that gnome2
[20:29] <jacobw> than*
[20:49] <popey> https://twitter.com/#!/thewhiphand was 40 followers 3 mins ago
[20:50] <popey> now over 800
[20:51] <Myrtti> heheheehehe
[20:51] <Myrtti> noticed myself
[20:52] <Myrtti> 22 when I looked
[20:53] <popey> it went 40->48->20 oddly
[20:55] <Myrtti> ♥
[20:56] <jacobw> ?
[20:59]  * jacobw notes that unity launcher is not actually transparent
[21:01]  * Myrtti abandons plans of cooking and orders Indian
[21:01] <popey> excellent plan
[21:09] <Myrtti> excellent show this
[21:09] <Myrtti> I approve
[21:09] <popey> +1
[21:14] <Myrtti> wohoo food
[21:18] <czajkowski> we have left over indian grub from jon cooking last night
[21:18] <czajkowski> so nyommy to reheat
[21:26] <Azelphur> uhh, my computers going haywire \o/
[21:26] <Azelphur> it froze up a bit, and now even basic things are non functional, dmesg says "Input/output error" and touch says "Bus error"
[21:27] <DJones> Hard drive failure?
[21:27] <Azelphur> all happened when I loaded a web page, flash went up the wall, and now everything is going up the wall
[21:27] <popey> I have had that
[21:27] <popey> recently
[21:27] <Azelphur> fun
[21:28] <Azelphur> popey: any fix?
[21:29] <Azelphur> don't think it's a hdd failure, I can still browse the files fine, only can't do any R/W
[21:29] <Azelphur> oh hey I can do some R/W
[21:30] <Azelphur> time to turn it off and on again, I guess
[21:31] <Azelphur> LOL, sudo reboot now sudo: Can't open /var/lib/sudo/azelphur/2: Read-only file system
[21:31] <Azelphur> reboot, /sbin/reboot: Input/output error
[21:32] <Azelphur> guess I'll do magic sysreq, \o/
[21:32] <jacobw> dead
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[21:38] <jacobw> hmm, i need food
[21:39] <penguin42> you never xray a phone if you want the data.....
[21:40] <Myrtti> brilliant, tipped mint sauce on me in the heat of the show
[21:49] <Azelphur> rebooted and it all seems to be alive now
[22:01] <penguin42> use smartctl to check if the drive thinks there was an error
[22:04] <Azelphur> looks fine :D
[22:46] <jacobw> Azelphur: its odd
[22:47] <jacobw> Azelphur: precise?
[22:47] <Azelphur> jacobw: ?
[22:47] <jacobw> are you using the 12.04 alpha?
[22:47] <Azelphur> nope
[23:08] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Jono Bacon] 2012 - http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/01/01/2012/