| Marzata | Happy new year from Scandinavia! | 00:11 |
|---|---|---|
| mongy | ditto from uk | 00:14 |
| nanotube | same from usa (a few hours away) | 00:25 |
| fennec | I'm in the airport now | 01:15 |
| fennec | :D | 01:15 |
| nanotube | hi. how do i add the standard qwerty us english layout to the list of layouts? my default is dvorak, and i'm trying to add a layout, so i went to settings -> keyboard -> layouts tab | 01:40 |
| nanotube | in the list of layouts under english (us), there are all kids of variants, but it seems none of them is standard | 01:41 |
| user___ | How would I go about making a compete backup of a xubuntu that is installed on an SD card? | 01:54 |
| user___ | i was going to just copy everything on the card to another computer, but the card can't be read by windows | 01:55 |
| nanotube | user___: use a linux distro to read it | 01:55 |
| user___ | do you know why it wouldn't work in windows? | 01:57 |
| nanotube | because windows doesn't read ext3 filesystems | 01:57 |
| nanotube | (which is i bet what the sd card is formatted as for the linux install) | 01:57 |
| nanotube | or maybe ext4... but same deal | 01:58 |
| user___ | Oh, yeah that's what i formatted it with | 02:01 |
| user___ | thanks for the help, I actually need to install a linux distro on my desktop | 02:02 |
| nanotube | ok, gl user___ :) | 02:17 |
| fennec | Hi again :p | 02:21 |
| nanotube | howdy | 02:21 |
| nanotube | on the plane yet? ;) | 02:21 |
| fennec | Nope, I dunno if Volaris has airplane wifi | 02:22 |
| nanotube | heh | 02:22 |
| fennec | If they do I'll let you know | 02:22 |
| nanotube | well happy travels | 02:22 |
| fennec | Thanks :D | 02:22 |
| fennec | Slightly useless question: Does anyone else ennjoy customizing their desktops endlessly? Like can do it for hours? xD | 02:23 |
| fennec | Guess not lol | 02:26 |
| fennec | I've been building a game I'm going to try and sell in a humble bundle | 02:27 |
| fennec | Built entirely on Xubuntu! | 02:27 |
| nanotube | yes, sometimes :) | 02:29 |
| nanotube | but i try not to. | 02:29 |
| nanotube | speaking of which, i'm thinking of installing xfce4-goodies. :) | 02:29 |
| nanotube | seems like it'd add hours of configuration fun! | 02:29 |
| fennec | :o | 02:30 |
| fennec | is there an apt get I could have? | 02:30 |
| fennec | ;D | 02:30 |
| nanotube | yes, xfce4-goodies :) | 02:30 |
| nanotube | i ran across it because i was looking for a keyboard layout manager | 02:31 |
| nanotube | which is xfce4-xkb-plugin | 02:31 |
| nanotube | which seems to be part of the -goodies family | 02:31 |
| fennec | ahh | 02:31 |
| nanotube | then started looking at the -goodies docs, and see a lot of nifty stuff. :) | 02:31 |
| nanotube | bbiaf food | 02:32 |
| fennec | Somehow Xmoto remains endlessly amusing | 02:32 |
| fennec | Yet I am absolutely horrible at it | 02:32 |
| fennec | Its so strange in the airport when I look at all the other kids my age | 02:36 |
| fennec | Theyre playing angry birds on a enlarged iphone/ipad | 02:36 |
| fennec | I'm hacking on GNU/Linux | 02:37 |
| fennec | xD | 02:37 |
| Marzata | fennec: what airport? | 02:40 |
| fennec | Cabo San Lucas I think | 02:40 |
| fennec | Idk >.> | 02:40 |
| fennec | I should know | 02:41 |
| fennec | But I dont | 02:41 |
| Marzata | you dunno the airport? | 02:41 |
| fennec | Not the specific name | 02:41 |
| fennec | lemme check | 02:41 |
| fennec | Oh los cabos something | 02:41 |
| fennec | its uhhh | 02:42 |
| fennec | San Jose Del Cabo Airport, Baja California Sur, Mexico | 02:43 |
| fennec | :D | 02:43 |
| fennec | Just Los Cabos airport | 02:43 |
| fennec | This networks to slow for installing stuff | 02:43 |
| fennec | I'm already downloadin warso :p | 02:44 |
| fennec | warsow* | 02:44 |
| Marzata | SJD? | 02:44 |
| fennec | Speed is 12 Mb/s | 02:44 |
| fennec | Yeah SJD | 02:44 |
| fennec | But why does it matter olol | 02:45 |
| fennec | Y u so creepin | 02:45 |
| Marzata | 12 Mb/s not that bad for SJD | 02:45 |
| fennec | It could be better if I wanted | 02:46 |
| fennec | I'm like 150ft from the starbuck wireless I'm stealing | 02:46 |
| fennec | I didn't actually buy anything there :p | 02:46 |
| Marzata | free wifi? | 02:47 |
| fennec | It has the password on the recept | 02:47 |
| fennec | So I just asked someone what it said | 02:47 |
| fennec | Theres this big danish dude over by me | 02:49 |
| fennec | Hes yelling and clapping | 02:49 |
| fennec | He reminds me of an angry gorilla | 02:49 |
| fennec | His wifes trying to calm him down | 02:49 |
| oobiloz | what's she doing? is it working? | 02:51 |
| fennec | I dunno lol | 02:51 |
| fennec | \/^o^\/ | 02:51 |
| fennec | Sorry if i disconnected | 02:54 |
| fennec | Am bored | 02:54 |
| fennec | Lets see your desktop~ the result of customizations 8D | 02:55 |
| fennec | Imma pst mine | 02:55 |
| fennec | Its funny the mexican ads I get | 03:00 |
| fennec | I'm not using a vpn | 03:00 |
| oobiloz | eheheh | 03:01 |
| fennec | Uploading... Please Wait | 03:01 |
| fennec | Heh not those kinds of ads >.> | 03:01 |
| oobiloz | ok | 03:02 |
| oobiloz | wher eis ur desktop | 03:02 |
| fennec | Still uploading | 03:02 |
| * oobiloz waits | 03:02 | |
| oobiloz | curious to see it before i go | 03:02 |
| fennec | connection was reset wile page was loading | 03:03 |
| fennec | gah | 03:03 |
| oobiloz | oh taht sux | 03:03 |
| oobiloz | lol | 03:03 |
| oobiloz | well, i gtg, notice me ur desktop if u feel like it | 03:04 |
| fennec | no seriously | 03:04 |
| fennec | its uploading | 03:04 |
| fennec | D: | 03:04 |
| oobiloz | that heavy eh | 03:05 |
| fennec | I swear its gonna upload | 03:05 |
| oobiloz | what did u think of mine | 03:05 |
| fennec | i stopped it to upload mine | 03:05 |
| fennec | as much speed as I can get lol | 03:06 |
| fennec | Upload! go go go! | 03:06 |
| fennec | I couldve mailed you my desktop by now | 03:07 |
| fennec | Doo-doo doo-doo do do do | 03:08 |
| fennec | >jeapardy musiks | 03:09 |
| oobiloz | lol | 03:09 |
| oobiloz | u on ur starbucks cnxn yes? | 03:09 |
| fennec | lol @ this ad http://content.yieldmanager.edgesuite.net/atoms/eb/1e/6c/b0/eb1e6cb01a83d286a004de3f1eb262a.gif | 03:09 |
| fennec | Yes I am | 03:10 |
| oobiloz | i saw jumping window, didnt' understand a word but "si" | 03:10 |
| oobiloz | lol | 03:10 |
| fennec | what about "iPad 2!" | 03:10 |
| oobiloz | i must have missed it | 03:11 |
| oobiloz | i got distracted but reclamor (something) and si | 03:11 |
| oobiloz | how big is ur desktop photo | 03:12 |
| oobiloz | as bit as an mp3? | 03:12 |
| fennec | 1600x900 | 03:12 |
| fennec | >.< | 03:12 |
| oobiloz | tht's not so bad | 03:12 |
| oobiloz | i guess? | 03:12 |
| fennec | Eh its bad | 03:13 |
| fennec | It took 10 secs on a 0.75 cconnection | 03:13 |
| fennec | somehow | 03:13 |
| oobiloz | ok | 03:15 |
| fennec | ohwell I'll load yours at least | 03:16 |
| fennec | *but tonight * <dududduduh> *its heavy stuff* DODODDDDOOOOOO DODODODODDOOO DOO | 03:16 |
| fennec | DOO DO DOO DOO DO DEW DEW DEW DO DEA DO | 03:17 |
| fennec | DODODODODOODODODDODOODO DODODODOODODODDO | 03:17 |
| fennec | DOOO DOOO DOOO | 03:17 |
| fennec | This has been a text based representation of Slam by Pendulum | 03:17 |
| fennec | Your desktops still loading olol | 03:18 |
| oobiloz | i'm listnin to a super long song, i dare say i8t'll be over before u load it | 03:18 |
| fennec | watt song | 03:19 |
| oobiloz | melodica by stimming | 03:19 |
| fennec | Never heard of it | 03:20 |
| fennec | SO JUST LISTEN AGAIN TO MY MUSICAL DOODLE | 03:20 |
| fennec | DODODODODODODO DO DO DO | 03:20 |
| oobiloz | it's a different song now | 03:20 |
| oobiloz | lol | 03:20 |
| fennec | My mind-jukebox has switched songs three times now | 03:23 |
| oobiloz | eheh | 03:24 |
| fennec | Maybe you should just describe your desktop | 03:24 |
| fennec | I see two heads | 03:24 |
| fennec | And a bittorent client ;D | 03:24 |
| oobiloz | that bad huh | 03:25 |
| oobiloz | the heads are pretty | 03:25 |
| oobiloz | wait for them to load | 03:25 |
| fennec | oh oh oh I can see the shoulders now | 03:25 |
| fennec | oh I'm starting to get the arms | 03:25 |
| fennec | So hows the weather in your partss | 03:26 |
| oobiloz | it's not even a big file | 03:26 |
| oobiloz | it's not as cold as other places | 03:26 |
| oobiloz | but i find it cold | 03:26 |
| fennec | And where are you anywhoo | 03:26 |
| oobiloz | ehehe | 03:26 |
| oobiloz | southeast asia | 03:26 |
| oobiloz | very near equator and i'm complaining about cold and humidity | 03:26 |
| oobiloz | u are somewehre in.. mexico? | 03:26 |
| fennec | Whereabouts? | 03:26 |
| fennec | Oh oh oh I can see another errr interesting part. You know whats below the shoulders | 03:27 |
| fennec | xD | 03:27 |
| oobiloz | mountain, i live up a mountain where u get big spiders and damp | 03:27 |
| oobiloz | and only one isp agreed to give serive | 03:27 |
| oobiloz | service | 03:27 |
| oobiloz | lol | 03:27 |
| fennec | Well we got plenty of people | 03:27 |
| fennec | But only one isp | 03:28 |
| oobiloz | lol | 03:28 |
| fennec | pretty much owns the whole thing besides satellite stuff | 03:28 |
| fennec | I'm in socal | 03:28 |
| oobiloz | where are u at again? | 03:28 |
| oobiloz | socal? | 03:28 |
| fennec | but currently in baja mexico going to fly home | 03:28 |
| fennec | southern california, us | 03:28 |
| fennec | :p | 03:28 |
| oobiloz | oh | 03:28 |
| oobiloz | am looking at the map | 03:28 |
| oobiloz | that far from san fran? | 03:28 |
| fennec | Oh I'm at the hips now | 03:29 |
| fennec | yes its still going | 03:29 |
| fennec | its done! | 03:29 |
| fennec | hooray | 03:29 |
| oobiloz | wow | 03:29 |
| oobiloz | this is the third song | 03:29 |
| oobiloz | took three songs for that measly pic to load | 03:29 |
| fennec | wait I waited all that time for that | 03:29 |
| fennec | olol | 03:29 |
| oobiloz | i know | 03:29 |
| fennec | my internet speed is good again now | 03:30 |
| oobiloz | that took forever | 03:30 |
| oobiloz | i wudn't have had ur patience | 03:30 |
| oobiloz | i'm looking at pics in wiki, socal looks nice | 03:30 |
| fennec | I figure it doesnt matter so | 03:38 |
| fennec | I'm in Dana Point | 03:38 |
| fennec | Though I hate to say it | 03:38 |
| fennec | Just moved from san clemente | 03:38 |
| fennec | Dana Point is so fanceh | 03:38 |
| fennec | xD | 03:38 |
| fennec | So what country are you in | 03:38 |
| fennec | and are you originally from there? | 03:39 |
| oobiloz | Philippines | 03:39 |
| oobiloz | yes, born here | 03:39 |
| fennec | You are nt speeking many engrishes | 03:39 |
| oobiloz | i iz not? | 03:39 |
| oobiloz | ehehe | 03:39 |
| oobiloz | what about u, are u originally from socal? | 03:40 |
| fennec | I think I'm getting on the plane In a min here | 03:40 |
| fennec | so If I suddenly rrraaaaageee quit, You know why | 03:40 |
| oobiloz | okies, have a pleasant flight | 03:40 |
| oobiloz | and hopefully a better connection when u land | 03:40 |
| oobiloz | maybe i'll see ur desktop sometime | 03:40 |
| fennec | Hopefully | 03:41 |
| fennec | I'll be on soon | 03:41 |
| fennec | Hopefully :) | 03:41 |
| oobiloz | stay safe | 03:42 |
| * oobiloz off for now | 03:42 | |
| fennec | Might as well leave now | 03:42 |
| fennec | cya | 03:42 |
| nanotube | easy way to remap capslock to ctrl, via some xubuntu control panel? | 05:12 |
| nanotube | is there one, that is? :) | 05:12 |
| |multipass| | is xubuntu upgrading pretty flawless? when going from like 11.04 to .10 | 05:36 |
| techvish81 | my default keyboard layout changes automatically to the second layout i've kept , what to do to retain it to en(us) | 05:53 |
| techvish81 | the keyboard layout switcher plugin in xubuntu is very buggy but still i've managed to do with it, but it has become very annoying to switch the layout everytime i login, even if i've done nothing with it or not have to do anything which requires switching keyboard.. | 05:57 |
| techvish81 | plz help guys!!! i've been helped 2-3 times here and quite optimistic to get answer here after googling and failing to get it working.. | 05:59 |
| nanotube | techvish81: just be a little patient, everyone's probably out celebrating the new year :) | 06:03 |
| nanotube | fwiw, my default layout is dvorak, and i was just looking into using the xkb-plugin to manage the layouts | 06:03 |
| techvish81 | ok, then .. i will see after sometime, happy new year to all the guys here who keep helping people | 06:04 |
| user____ | I'm not sure if this should go here or in the ubuntu channel, but: | 06:48 |
| user____ | I'm trying to copy an SD card that has xubuntu installed on it but I can't beacuse ubuntu(what I'm running now) says that I don't have permision to read certain files. So how do I go about backing it up? | 06:48 |
| bert4389 | change the permission on the SD card to whatever user you want to own the data | 06:49 |
| bert4389 | when you change the permissions you will have to do it as root, i am assuming the file system on the SD card is a linux file system | 06:50 |
| bert4389 | does that make sense? | 06:51 |
| user____ | it's xubuntu on the card; change the permisions when i'm booted up IN the card? | 06:54 |
| bert4389 | you said you are using ubuntu now, and you are trying to backup the sd card right? | 06:54 |
| nanotube | can you just run copy with sudo? | 06:54 |
| user____ | yeah | 06:54 |
| user____ | :/ i don't know the command to copy files in the terminal | 06:55 |
| bert4389 | are you trying to back up files on the sd card or the whole file system on the sd card? | 06:55 |
| nanotube | sudo cp -R /path/to/sdcard /path/to/target/dir | 06:55 |
| user____ | the whole file system | 06:55 |
| bert4389 | the command nanotube just gave you will copy all the files from your SD card to whatever directory you want on your ubuntu hard drive | 06:56 |
| user____ | alright, thanks; so it would be something like /media/[cards name here] | 06:56 |
| bert4389 | yes | 06:57 |
| nanotube | user____: try "ls -al /media" to see what you have there. | 06:58 |
| user____ | thanks, it has a long file name | 06:59 |
| bert4389 | it's probably the UUID if the file system doesn't have a label | 07:00 |
| user____ | Alright it's a decent way through and seems to be copying fine | 07:08 |
| user____ | thanks, you guys are life savers | 07:08 |
| nanotube | np user____ :) | 07:16 |
| user____ | I'm gonna hit the sack, happy new year, and let's hope it won't be as grim as it seems. | 07:38 |
| multipass | what are the correct permissions for a local lamp stack? just for my use. | 07:49 |
| eigoom | I'm on xubuntu | 08:07 |
| xubuntu596 | hello? | 09:03 |
| xubuntu596 | Is there anyone? | 09:04 |
| xubuntu596 | i'm installing xubuntu and find the IRC, so what this IRC can do? | 09:05 |
| xubuntu596 | it seems get ready i'd go. bye to anyone it may concern | 09:06 |
| _Pete_ | IRC can deliver your messages to others | 09:09 |
| michal_s | Happy New Year for everyone! Greetings from Poland. | 11:24 |
| Da|Mummy | why no open in new tab in file browser? :{ | 11:24 |
| TheSheep | Da|Mummy: thunar does not and will not have tabs | 11:33 |
| TheSheep | Da|Mummy: middle-click to open in new window | 11:33 |
| TheSheep | Da|Mummy: or use a different file manager if you absolutely can't live without tabs | 11:33 |
| lozzy_uk | Hi. Anyone able to give me a hand with a non-working mouse? | 11:50 |
| Da|Mummy | wireless? | 11:54 |
| lozzy_uk | no, simple P/S2 | 11:54 |
| lozzy_uk | odd thing is it worked fine under Ubuntu 11.10 | 11:54 |
| Da|Mummy | only odd thing is that youre able to get it not working | 11:55 |
| Da|Mummy | is it plugged in before you turn pc on? | 11:55 |
| lozzy_uk | it is | 11:55 |
| Da|Mummy | thats about the only thing that could be wrong with it if the mouse actually works, as ps2 doesnt liked to be plugged in while pc is booted | 11:56 |
| lozzy_uk | hmm..well I know the mouse is ok cos of Ubuntu, but using Ubuntu Studio I get nada. I do get a cursor centre screen though | 11:57 |
| lozzy_uk | which kind of implies it got detected in some way? | 11:58 |
| lozzy_uk | thanks anyway Da|Mummy | 12:01 |
| xubuntu838 | I have a quick question on xubunu versioning | 13:24 |
| xubuntu838 | I want to install xubuntu on my gf's laptop, but think that the lts version would be better | 13:25 |
| xubuntu838 | if I install 11.10 and then upgrade to 12 when it's realeased and keep her on that version... | 13:25 |
| xubuntu838 | will that effectivelty be the lts? | 13:26 |
| TheSheep | yes | 13:26 |
| xubuntu838 | that's what I thought, thanks | 13:26 |
| Ryllez89 | i have xubuntu and everytime it goes standby a while, it freezes and cant get it working again(have to shut down by force and reboot again) | 13:51 |
| mongy | what video driver you got? | 13:59 |
| Marzata | Ryllez89: got enough cpu/memory? | 13:59 |
| Ryllez89 | ATI RADEON | 14:00 |
| Ryllez89 | my video | 14:00 |
| Ryllez89 | cpu : core 2 duo | 14:00 |
| Ryllez89 | memory: 4gb | 14:00 |
| mongy | using the free driver or fglrx? | 14:02 |
| Marzata | Ryllez89: maybe some screenlock / screensaver? | 14:02 |
| Ryllez89 | free driver in this moment, but when i open the "additional driver" show the fglrx to me | 14:02 |
| Ryllez89 | Marzata: the xubuntu 11.10 automatically run the screensaver when i put my computer in screenlock -.- | 14:03 |
| Ryllez89 | and freeze my computer | 14:03 |
| Marzata | Ryllez89: change to only one simple screen saver. | 14:04 |
| Ryllez89 | i always have to use screenlock | 14:04 |
| Ryllez89 | where i change it? | 14:04 |
| Marzata | Ryllez89: in the settings manager | 14:04 |
| Ryllez89 | i disable the screensaver now | 14:06 |
| Marzata | for lock the screen I use xtrlock | 14:08 |
| Ryllez89 | Marzata: this xScreenSaver it's a default program? | 14:08 |
| Marzata | Ryllez89: seems so, but you can stop it avkoz. | 14:08 |
| Ryllez89 | avkoz = ? | 14:09 |
| mongy | I disable it and just use the power management settings in settings manager.. and ctrl alt del to lock | 14:10 |
| Ryllez89 | how i can disable it? | 14:11 |
| mongy | change the mode to disabled | 14:11 |
| Ryllez89 | yeah, but the xscreensaver appear when we move the mouse | 14:12 |
| Ryllez89 | a black screen for login | 14:12 |
| mongy | screensaver is disabled, but still uses the app to lock | 14:13 |
| Ryllez89 | yeah | 14:14 |
| mongy | yeah, I'm saying.. it uses it for the locking | 14:14 |
| popsch | is there a way to force a reload of the pulse audio modules like 'alsa force-reload' | 15:35 |
| fennec | Hallo | 15:39 |
| fennec | Eating bacon burrito | 15:56 |
| fennec | in the airport | 15:56 |
| fennec | flight delayed | 15:56 |
| fennec | g2g on the plane | 15:58 |
| Marzata | reading Mail http://goo.gl/Yx9VT | 16:00 |
| Ryllez89 | guys, how i activate the multi user? | 16:00 |
| Ryllez89 | when i press ctrl alt f7 nothign happens | 16:00 |
| TheSheep | Ryllez89: what do you mean? | 16:09 |
| mongy | i think he wants another x session | 16:11 |
| holstein | Ryllez89: i have a via chipset that TTY's appear to not work on | 16:18 |
| douglas | Hello, I'm trying to make a live boot usb thumb drive for xubuntu 11.10 | 19:58 |
| holstein | douglas: i use unetbootin | 19:58 |
| holstein | the main ubuntu iso's can be dd copied... not sure it the xubuntu ones can | 19:58 |
| nanotube | there's also the 'startup disk creator' | 19:59 |
| nanotube | which can make a bootable usb from an iso | 19:59 |
| michal_s | douglas: I use unetbootin too, it is good tool | 19:59 |
| holstein | i forget when i tried that, it failed, and i swore it off... maybe around 9.10? | 19:59 |
| douglas | thanks nano, I've used startup disk creator and get a error message at boot | 19:59 |
| nanotube | ah, what kind of error? | 19:59 |
| Sysi | holstein: since what version? has dd worked | 19:59 |
| michal_s | startup disk creator works great too | 19:59 |
| holstein | douglas: you can try fresh formatting the stick, or try another tool | 19:59 |
| holstein | Sysi: 11.10 | 20:00 |
| douglas | should I post it to the paste page? | 20:00 |
| nanotube | douglas: well, sure, let's see it, can't guarantee any useful input based thereon, but... go ahead :) | 20:00 |
| douglas | brb | 20:00 |
| holstein | douglas: i would try formatting the stick before creating it, assuming you havent.. then go from there | 20:01 |
| holstein | http://www.ubuntu-corner.com/2011/06/ubuntu-will-be-distributed-as-a-hybrid-image/ | 20:01 |
| michal_s | douglas: You can try another USB stick. Sometimes There is problem with stick | 20:01 |
| nanotube | holstein: ah nice link | 20:03 |
| douglas | OK, it's up on paste under 'douglas' | 20:03 |
| holstein | douglas: have you tried formatting the stick? before using the creator tool? | 20:04 |
| douglas | I set the stick to ext3 with gparted | 20:05 |
| nanotube | douglas: got a direct link? | 20:05 |
| douglas | a link to the paste? | 20:05 |
| holstein | douglas: right.. dont 'set' it.. format it fat32, then try using the tool | 20:05 |
| douglas | http://paste.ubuntu.com/789878/ | 20:05 |
| mongy | I have a usb stick all grub'd up ready and waiting for me to copy an iso to the iso folder. :) | 20:06 |
| Sysi | BIOS won't boot from ext3, use fat32 or possibly ext2 | 20:06 |
| holstein | mongy: hehe... what do you use? just do it manually?.. i set up multiboot | 20:06 |
| mongy | manual | 20:07 |
| douglas | I'm not sure what we are saying with the word 'set', I guess I partitioned it as ext3, then erased it, then used start up disk creator to make a 'live' stick with X11.10 | 20:07 |
| holstein | douglas: right.. take the stick, and format it fat 32... freshly.. right now... then go to the tool and create the bootable stick | 20:07 |
| Sysi | select format/erase option in startup disk creator | 20:07 |
| douglas | OK, I'll redo the stick as FAT32 and run creator on it | 20:07 |
| holstein | dont partition, or 'set'... just format the whole thing | 20:07 |
| Sysi | holstein: it actually needs to be partitioned, with msdos partition table and one partition | 20:08 |
| douglas | The reason for all this I'm really displeased with gnome3. | 20:08 |
| holstein | Sysi: sure.. feel free and elaborate.. im not sure how else to explain it | 20:09 |
| Sysi | gnome3 isn't very bad, unity kinda is | 20:09 |
| mongy | dd works as well though... | 20:09 |
| douglas | what is dd? | 20:09 |
| Sysi | mongy: for xubuntu images too? | 20:09 |
| mongy | Sysi, umm... only ever done it with ubuntu ones | 20:09 |
| Sysi | dd id bit-by-bit copy | 20:10 |
| Sysi | dd is* | 20:10 |
| douglas | oh... | 20:10 |
| mongy | i'm "assuming" (tm) it works the same | 20:10 |
| Sysi | holstein: using GPT or partition directly will make booting harder :P | 20:10 |
| douglas | I'm wanting to setup separate stick with mint and gentoo to try out. | 20:10 |
| douglas | sticks | 20:11 |
| nanotube | douglas: some googling doesn't turn up anything useful, maybe a problem with the stick, or how you set it up. try rewipe and repartition as holstein suggests and see if that helps... | 20:11 |
| holstein | Sysi: again, feel free and eleborate... im just tryin to say... format the stick | 20:11 |
| Sysi | holstein: that's what I'm talking about :D | 20:12 |
| douglas | OK holstein, will follow your adivce. | 20:12 |
| douglas | thank you all | 20:12 |
| holstein | im only suggesting out of experience | 20:12 |
| holstein | Sysi: ? | 20:12 |
| Sysi | gentoo isn't very much of an experience, chroot and endless compiling for what I know | 20:12 |
| nanotube | mongy: so dd if=isofile of=/usbstick/device, works? that's neat | 20:13 |
| douglas | I bought 5 4gb sticks from oempc to experiment with different distros | 20:13 |
| nanotube | heh | 20:14 |
| mongy | nanotube, has for me so far. I would test it now but all I have is my custom xubuntu iso | 20:14 |
| nanotube | well, i'll keep it in mind for the future, mongy ;) | 20:14 |
| mongy | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1288604 a handy little guide for booting isos. | 20:15 |
| douglas | FAT32 here, here I come. Back in about an hour. Thank you all | 20:15 |
| Sysi | for some reason one of my three sticks won't boot, two other ones work fine (I've totally wiped them all with dd, repartitioned etc.) | 20:15 |
| mongy | some just don't work. | 20:20 |
| mongy | had a few sandisk, a couple of maxell and something nameless. worked ok | 20:21 |
| douglas | OK the writing is in progress. The stick is FAT32, labeled as XBUNTU 32bit, and the ISO is being 'done' | 20:22 |
| mongy | anyone know exactly what the hell thunar does for the first 2 seconds while it starts for the first time? it accesses the network | 20:28 |
| TheSheep | mongy: strace it and see | 20:28 |
| TheSheep | my guess is that it looks for windows shares | 20:29 |
| Sysi | it's actually something with gvfs, not precicely thunar | 20:29 |
| mongy | I thought that too.. wonder if I can stop it | 20:29 |
| Sysi | do you need network mounting? | 20:29 |
| mongy | nope | 20:30 |
| mongy | not samba anyway | 20:30 |
| Sysi | removing gvfs-backends should help | 20:30 |
| mongy | after that, libcdio-paranoia0 now says its up for removing. | 20:32 |
| douglas | OK. the stick is done. will try a reboot now. | 20:35 |
| douglas | doug out | 20:35 |
| douglas | Gave the freshly done stick a trial boot and got the same error message after the xubuntu splash screen | 20:41 |
| holstein | douglas: you can try unetbootin if you like | 20:42 |
| mongy | what error? | 20:43 |
| holstein | you can confirm the sum of the downloaded iso | 20:43 |
| douglas | the error I previously posted on pastebin | 20:43 |
| holstein | http://paste.ubuntu.com/789878/ | 20:43 |
| douglas | yes, that's it | 20:43 |
| holstein | (initramfs) mount: mounting /dev/loop1 on /cow failed: invalid argument | 20:43 |
| nanotube | did you verify the checksum of the iso? | 20:43 |
| mongy | tried just dd? | 20:44 |
| douglas | did not verify. however, the xubuntu blue splash screen comes up just before the error message | 20:44 |
| holstein | yup... i would do both.. verify, then dd the iso | 20:44 |
| douglas | I guess I'd better request help on verifying the checksum? | 20:45 |
| holstein | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM | 20:46 |
| douglas | thanks holstein | 20:46 |
| holstein | :) | 20:46 |
| mongy | douglas, there's always booting the iso with grub2 also | 20:47 |
| mongy | simple enough | 20:47 |
| douglas | You guys are geat! | 20:47 |
| mongy | format it fat32, mount it and sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/where_its_mounted /dev/sdx (x = your usb device) | 20:49 |
| nanotube | douglas: found something? | 20:49 |
| nanotube | did checksum match? | 20:49 |
| mongy | make a grub.cfg in boot/grub and paste http://pastebin.com/ka5KmddF | 20:50 |
| mongy | copy iso to the /boot folder on stick. make sure naming is correct. job done | 20:50 |
| mongy | rinse repeat for other isos | 20:51 |
| douglas | still working on that checksun | 20:51 |
| mongy | reminds me, gotta get xubuntu isos seeding on my server | 20:55 |
| douglas | well, this is interesting: I used gISOMount on the target, mounted it and asked for the 'Calculate' of the md5sum. When I tried to mount it the response is 'not an iso file'! Yet the file ends with .iso.??? | 20:56 |
| mongy | you md5sum the iso, and I usually md5 check all the files after writing to usb | 20:57 |
| mongy | cd /media/whatever then md5sum -c md5sum.txt | 20:57 |
| douglas | yes, I used gISOMount to check the file I downloaded onto my outboard drive. | 20:58 |
| Marzata | what is the nmap argument to see the hardw. addresses? | 20:59 |
| mongy | you dont need to mount it.. just check the file you got is the same file the internet has. | 20:59 |
| douglas | It seems the command line doesn't want to take a directory name with spaces in it: /media/Boat & Docs/ | 21:06 |
| mongy | use " | 21:06 |
| mongy | or \ escape it | 21:06 |
| mongy | dude, just install grub to the stick, make the cfg and copy the iso file. | 21:07 |
| aledoni | hello can someone help me figure out how to save battery life? | 21:08 |
| douglas | mongy: I'll try getting grub and installing it on the stick. What is 'make the cfg and copy the iso file'? | 21:09 |
| aledoni | I am new to this operating system so I need some help | 21:09 |
| holstein | aledoni: AFAIK, there are just some developments in the kernel right now... you can try going back to 10.04, or try some kernels from mainline and help prepare for the future :) | 21:10 |
| mongy | when you install grub to it, you'll have a grub folder. make a grub.cfg file in it with the relevant info, copy the iso to it.. | 21:10 |
| macman_ | hey guys, thanks for this great distro. very low memory usage and fast in virtualbox :-) | 21:10 |
| mongy | aledoni, there is a kernel boot paramter that supposedly is a workaround. I'd have to google it | 21:10 |
| douglas | thank you mongy. I'll give it a go. | 21:10 |
| mongy | it's all ^up there | 21:11 |
| macman_ | how do i search for files on xubuntu? | 21:11 |
| nanotube | macman_: ye just switched to xfce myself after giving up on unity. it rocks. :) | 21:11 |
| nanotube | macman_: in menu, i see accessories -> search for files | 21:11 |
| macman_ | not on mine! | 21:12 |
| macman_ | 11.10 vbox | 21:12 |
| Sysi | catfish | 21:13 |
| macman_ | also +1 for automatic guest tools installtion | 21:13 |
| macman_ | is that standard on all buntu distros now? | 21:13 |
| Sysi | jockey should be on all official derivatives at least | 21:14 |
| macman_ | i didn't see that on kubuntu for instance, via additional drivers | 21:14 |
| mongy | vbox additions are available via jockey | 21:14 |
| macman_ | ok, thanks mongy, I didn't know what the mechanism was called | 21:14 |
| mongy | macman_, are you saying it has the additions loaded already? | 21:14 |
| macman_ | well it comes up with a prompt via additional drivers | 21:15 |
| mongy | macman_, tbh, Ive found the ose additions (in jockey) to work better than the ones I install manually in the latest vbox version | 21:15 |
| macman_ | asking me that this additional driver is available | 21:15 |
| mongy | macman_, ah, ok. | 21:15 |
| macman_ | however, first time i seen that on a distro | 21:16 |
| macman_ | better than having to mount guest additions in vbox | 21:16 |
| mongy | I've seen it on ubuntu before | 21:17 |
| macman_ | kubuntu was hell in vbox | 21:17 |
| macman_ | i use kde now via xubuntu, works better than plasma desktop thats for sure | 21:17 |
| mongy | yeah, I wasn't impressed | 21:17 |
| macman_ | i mainly wanted to have amarok running, what a memory hog!! | 21:18 |
| macman_ | tho | 21:18 |
| macman_ | it has loads of cool extra plugins for radio and stuff | 21:18 |
| mongy | can have the apps without the whole desktop | 21:18 |
| Sysi | but amarok is still memory hog :P | 21:18 |
| mongy | heh | 21:19 |
| Sysi | rhythmbox and banshee should have nice plugins too | 21:19 |
| macman_ | heck, it works for the time being :-) after several reboots | 21:19 |
| mongy | I prefer my music minimal like audacious. I have radiotray for that part | 21:19 |
| macman_ | i think vbox needs several to get it working properly | 21:19 |
| douglas | It seems I have 'grub-pc' on this computer. Although it doesn't seem to show on any of the Applications' menus, nor does entering 'grub-pc' at the command line appear to do anything. | 21:20 |
| macman_ | it hard crashed at one point after producing no sound!! | 21:20 |
| Sysi | douglas: because it's bootloader, not really application | 21:20 |
| macman_ | however, after restarting its all working fine now! | 21:20 |
| douglas | Sysi: so how do I put it on the stick as per mongy? | 21:21 |
| mongy | douglas, format it fat32 | 21:22 |
| mongy | sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/where_its_mounted /dev/sdx (x = your usb device) | 21:22 |
| mongy | let me know when that's done | 21:22 |
| douglas | mongy: it has been formatted as fat32 | 21:22 |
| raevol | hi guys, indicator-messages is not working for me with pidgin, any ideas on how to get the indicator to even show up? the indicator-messages package is installed, but not showing next to the sound indicator on my panel | 21:24 |
| Sysi | add it to your panel and maybe log out and back in | 21:25 |
| Sysi | indicator-plugin to your panel that is | 21:25 |
| raevol | Sysi: i have indicator-plugin on my panel already, i see the volume indicator there | 21:26 |
| raevol | Sysi: http://imgur.com/B2hZQ | 21:30 |
| Sysi | so, relogin (if you made sure that's not pulseaudio on notification area) | 21:32 |
| raevol | Sysi: i have relogged already | 21:32 |
| Sysi | I guess you also should check pidgin settings | 21:33 |
| Sysi | that wallpaper looks nice, link to just it? | 21:34 |
| Sysi | ..I guess it's possible that indicator-plugin doesn't work on vertical panel, try turning it horizontally for a quick check | 21:35 |
| raevol | http://stamga.deviantart.com/art/Beautiful-Dream-180306392 is the wallpaper, but for some reason i have a version without the text on it... | 21:35 |
| raevol | not showing up when horizontal either :/ | 21:36 |
| aledoni | can someone help me figure out why i cant spin the hard disk down? | 21:37 |
| aledoni | everytime i enable it, it is unchecked when i look again | 21:37 |
| holstein | maybe the hardware doesnt support it? | 21:39 |
| holstein | i wouldnt worry much about what checkboxes say anyways... | 21:39 |
| holstein | see if http://info4admins.com/tips-to-spindown-your-hard-disk-in-debian-or-ubuntu/ is relevant to you | 21:40 |
| raevol | Sysi: i switched my theme off of greybird and i am now seeing the message indicator, the the meny ut pops up is the session menu... | 21:40 |
| raevol | let me relog | 21:41 |
| Sysi | holstein: guide that tells you to turn off syslog in the first step doesn't look very good (for a beginner) | 21:42 |
| Sysi | (xfce4-power-manager checkbox should be working trustworthy trough upower) | 21:43 |
| holstein | Sysi: cool.. so, when the checkbox fails.. for when/if aledoni returns | 21:44 |
| Sysi | I found out that my desktop HDDs didn't work with hdparm and on laptop linux should handle it even without xfce (not 100% sure) | 21:45 |
| raevol | k i removed the session indicator, and now the envelope is gone again | 21:49 |
| raevol | when i add the indicator-plugin to the panel, i notice that the envelope shows up for an instant, and then disappears again | 21:50 |
| raevol | blerg, relogging again | 21:52 |
| Marzata | what is wrong with the envelope? | 21:52 |
| raevol | screw it, i just removed the whole indicator thing | 21:55 |
| Sysi | Marzata: it disappears from raevol's panel | 21:56 |
| raevol | now to fix the xubuntu icon theme so the large pidgin icons aren't busted | 21:56 |
| * Marzata uses Faenza | 22:00 | |
| raevol | Marzata: faneza isn't packaged, is it? | 22:04 |
| raevol | ah it's in a ppa | 22:05 |
| * mongy uses Faenza Dark | 22:07 | |
| raevol | faenza doesn't fix the notification area | 22:10 |
| mongy | how is it broke? | 22:11 |
| mongy | #ubuntu is having a hard time of it with spammers | 22:16 |
| raevol | it used to be that when you got a new message, the icon in the notification area would change to show that | 22:17 |
| raevol | now it's always the same icon | 22:17 |
| raevol | it also used to indicate your status and such | 22:18 |
| RokcStar | hey | 22:18 |
| RokcStar | what is happening to the ubuntu channel | 22:18 |
| Sysi | #xubuntu-offtopic will you | 22:18 |
| RokcStar | i am seeing flod bot something | 22:18 |
| mongy | sorry | 22:19 |
| jjgalvez__ | new to xubuntu, I am trying to turn on multitouch on my dell laptop and can't figure out how to do it. any help would be appreciated | 22:20 |
| Sysi | jjgalvez__: two finger scroll? | 22:21 |
| jjgalvez__ | yes thats what I am looking for | 22:21 |
| Sysi | jjgalvez__: try running "synclient VertTwoFingerScroll=1" without quotes in terminal | 22:22 |
| Sysi | if that works I tell how to make it work after next logout too | 22:24 |
| jjgalvez__ | nope nothing, under mouse it says that my touchpad is an alps if that makes any difference | 22:24 |
| nanotube | jjgalvez__: there are driver issues with the alps touchpads... | 22:28 |
| nanotube | i've got a new inspiron with an alps, can't even turn off tap-click or anything. | 22:28 |
| jjgalvez__ | nanotube: bummer :( | 22:28 |
| nanotube | google up the launchpad bug report | 22:29 |
| nanotube | there are some workarounds and patches posted | 22:29 |
| nanotube | if you're up for tinkering | 22:29 |
| jjgalvez__ | nanotube: thanks will give that a try | 22:29 |
| nanotube | since i use an external usb mouse, i don't much care so i didn't play | 22:29 |
| Marzata | got two trackpoints? | 22:34 |
| jjgalvez__ | I like libreoffice rather than the abiword, is there a simple way to reset all the appropriate mime types to use libreoffice rather than abiwork or gnumeric? | 22:47 |
| Sysi | remove abiword/gnumeric | 22:48 |
| jjgalvez__ | demigod | 22:48 |
| jjgalvez__ | Sysi: really is that all I need to do, cool | 22:49 |
| mongy | sometimes we forget simple things | 22:58 |
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