[03:18]  * solid_liq is now known as 2_tone_beat_up_old_stationwagon
[09:59] <fabo> Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~fboudra/+archive/kde/+packages
[20:41] <ulysses> is it enought to subscribe Jonathan Thomas to this bug, or shall I subscribe kubuntu-bugs too? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/muon/+bug/901811
[20:44] <yofel> ulysses: kubuntu-bugs is already subscribed, so it's ok
[20:45] <ulysses> oh, fail
[20:45] <ulysses> too late and the night before an exam :P
[22:16] <Riddell> UDS is in california next? that breaks the europe/north america alternation
[22:22] <yofel> again?
[22:27] <Riddell> yofel: well it hasn't been in california for ages but it normally goes back to europe
[22:27] <yofel> yeah...
[22:47] <Riddell> fabo: what happened to the new package you said had to be done before networkmanagement?
[23:10] <apol> hi, can anybody tell me a little about QApt vs PackageKit as a backend?
[23:13] <glatzor> apol, what do you want to do?
[23:14] <apol> well, I'm considering to start some new development
[23:14] <apol> that would involve package management
[23:14] <Riddell> jussi: did you find out what was up with floodbots?  they're at it again in #kubuntu
[23:14] <Riddell> apol: this is the guy to ask about qapt https://launchpad.net/~echidnaman
[23:15] <Riddell> Daniel Nicoletti for kpackagekit of course
[23:16] <apol> hm
[23:16] <apol> ok
[23:17] <apol> isn't there any small issues list that I can find on the net? just to have an idea of why packagekit is not the best solution
[23:19] <glatzor> apol, if you want to support other distros you have to use packagekit
[23:20] <glatzor> apol, there is a system and a session interface. nowadays even aptdaemon provides the packagekit interface
[23:20] <apol> glatzor: and I should use qapt if...?
[23:20] <Riddell> glatzor is talking about the dbus interfaces
[23:21] <Riddell> depends if you want to use dbus or need to be more involved and use the libraries
[23:21] <glatzor> apol, if you want to develop very closely for debian/ubuntu and use special features of those
[23:21] <glatzor> apol, qapt is also installed by default - kpackagekit not
[23:22] <apol> hm
[23:22] <apol> I don't really see it, I guess I'll have to try
[23:22] <glatzor> apol, what should your application do?
[23:23] <apol> list, install, remove, etc
[23:23] <apol> and extract name, description and pictures if possible
[23:32] <glatzor> apol, you want to write a general purpose package manager?
[23:32] <apol> no
[23:34] <apol> and I don't really want to talk about projects before they start because it raises expectations where there shouldn't be :)