[00:01] <randomatix> is there any documentation for ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc & plasma-desktoprc?
[00:11] <randomatix> My panel won't unhide when hovering at that edge. It does show the glow, like it's thinking about it.  The only suggestion I've found is a blog post saying to change some undocumented value in plasma-desktoprc and reboot.  It's not a good time to reboot, and I'd like to know what that setting really does.  Any ideas?
[00:34] <Snowhog> randomatix: Well, without know what the blog post you looked at is, or what "setting" it refers to, ....
[00:36] <randomatix> Snowhog: well, the bigger question is "where are the settings in those files documented?".
[00:37] <randomatix> Snowhog: and the secondary question is "Is there a way to make a panel unhide without a restart?"
[00:39] <randomatix> Snowhog: for reference, the post is http://eyemeansit.wordpress.com/2010/06/17/restoring-a-lost-kde4-panel-that-wont-unhide/
[00:44] <Kimlaroux> randomatix, maybe restarting plasma-desktop would work
[00:45] <Kimlaroux> and this blog post is silly... "Here’s the fix, assuming you have some folder on your desktop that will allow you to open up Dolphin:" I mean, this is Linux, you can do all that in one of the consoles
[00:46] <randomatix> Kimlaroux: Good idea.  I may try restarting plasma-desktop next time.  I might have found a workaround by doing something to generate a notification in the system tray.  Will need to test that more.
[00:48] <randomatix> Kimlaroux: And, yeah, there were a few rookie indicators in that post which made me less than eager to blindly make that settings change.
[00:49] <Kimlaroux> Bah it's just a visual setting for KDE... should be pretty same IMO. KDE used to be 100% configurable through text files...
[00:49] <randomatix> It would be nice if the plasma settings were docuemented, perhaps something like http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config_entries
[00:50] <Kimlaroux> Yeah, when I came back to KDE I couldn't find anything about it's configuration files. Kinda lame
[00:51] <randomatix> the prevailing notion of just blowing away the settings file & starting over whenever things don't work is bothersome
[00:52] <Kimlaroux> what annoys me more is the "point and click" of it all... Many things can only be configured through point-and-click setting panels. It's really a pain when those settings don't work.
[00:53] <randomatix> Kimlaroux: the Firefox approach works for me.  GUI for the common items, about:config for tweakier things.
[00:53] <Kimlaroux> Firefox is not a whole desktop though
[00:54] <randomatix> Kimlaroux: right, just saying their hybrid method is appealing.
[00:54]  * Kimlaroux nods.
[00:55] <randomatix> they seem free to add tweakable settings galore, without getting slowed down by decisions over what belongs in the gui
[01:37] <Cpt_Andrew> Anyone have methods of laptop power saving?
[01:38] <Cpt_Andrew> Linux is a monster in draining my macbook battery
[01:38] <randomatix> Cpt_Andrew: have you tried powertop?
[01:40] <Cpt_Andrew> no does it help a lot?
[01:40] <Cpt_Andrew> i only played with the system setting power options
[01:42] <randomatix> powertop shows technical info about what's using power, with suggested changes.   not really a consumer-friendly tool, though.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerTOP
[01:43] <randomatix> it hits some items not covered elsewhere.  still not everything you'll need to do, though
[01:44] <Cpt_Andrew> i see, can it actually make the changes itself?
[01:45] <randomatix> yeah. they may not be persistent.  it's been a while since I used it.
[01:47] <Cpt_Andrew> K thanks, i'll check it out
[02:13] <gjohnson> how to fix problem dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a'
[02:14] <gjohnson> would anyone want to help with this problem ?  how to fix problem dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a
[02:16] <robin0800> gjohnson: and have you ?
[02:16] <gjohnson> ??
[02:17] <gjohnson> am I in the right place for help?
[02:17] <robin0800> gjohnson: in the konsole sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:18] <gjohnson> i have a promt
[02:19] <gjohnson> under bash
[02:22] <gjohnson> sudo: dpkg--configure-a: command not found
[02:22] <gjohnson> i  entered in konsole
[02:23] <gjohnson> this is what i got back
[02:23] <gjohnson> sudo: dpkg--configure-a: command not found
[02:23] <robin0800> gjohnson: there is a space between dpkg and --
[02:23] <Snowhog> gjohnson: Type it as:   sudo dpkg --configure -a  [Note that there are spaces]
[02:24] <gjohnson> ok i coped your text and its working now
[02:25] <gjohnson> would  you know how or why it was disabled? my Auto updater was working fine before?
[02:26] <gjohnson> ok it has finished
[02:26] <robin0800> gjohnson: the errors you had might have stopped it
[02:28] <gjohnson> Awsome its working great now thanks soo much Happy New Year and God Bless
[02:52] <inobe> anyone have tips on how to speed up dolphin, using Dolphin Version 1.7 on KDE (4.7.4) ?
[02:56] <inobe> sys specs, e6850cpu, 500gig sata drive, gtx 460 se 2gb, 6 gigs memory, dolphin takes 4seconds to load, yet everything else loads up instantaneously.
[03:16] <randomatix> In krunner, how can the PATH be set to include ~/bin ?  The default PATH seems to be  /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[03:42] <Linkmaster> telepathy KDE? Where can I find itZ
[03:42] <Linkmaster> *?
[03:52] <inobe> hello everyone
[04:00] <Snowhog> Linkmaster: telepathy-core is in the repositories. Just install it?
[04:07] <Linkmaster> Snowhog: I wanted the KDE version...
[04:10] <Snowhog> Linkmaster: Take a look at http://quintasan.blogspot.com/2011/07/telepathy-kde-ppa.html
[04:18] <Bunie_> Hey guys! I'm using Lubuntu but i installed KDE and nobody is answering over there :P
[04:18] <Bunie_> What is Konqeuror and how do i remove it without butchering KDE?
[04:20] <Snowhog> Bunie_: Konqeuror is a Web Browser and File Manager in one.
[04:20] <Bunie_> Snowhog: But like, doesnt KDE by default use a different file manager?
[04:20] <Bunie_> Snowhog: I use FireFox for my web browsing :P what use is Konqeuror to me?
[04:21] <Snowhog> Bunie_: Then don't use it.
[04:21] <Bunie_> but its required for KDE? :P
[04:21] <Bunie_> the file manager may come in handy someday anyways
[04:22] <Bunie_> I've installed everything but xfce, no idea why. some strange urge to install them all. cant manage to get xfce to work though.
[04:22] <Snowhog> Bunie_: Konqueror isn't installed with the newer versions of Kubuntu, which now uses Rekonq as the default browser.
[04:23] <Bunie_> Ah. Well as i mentioned im using lubuntu :3 just needed some info on KDE ^^
[04:23] <Bunie_> Thanks :D
[04:24] <Bunie_> KDE is very pretty. it seems more resource hoggish then Gnome though lols. its a touch choice i'll have to make over-time :D see you guys later ;D
[04:24] <Bunie_> tough*
[04:24] <Bunie_> ;3
[06:05] <calcmandan_pre> Happy new year everyonr
[06:05] <calcmandan_pre> Everyone
[06:09] <D-coy> -.-
[10:35] <almoxarife> someone tell me how to remove the x/y coords from the display when I shit a window on the desktop?
[10:35] <almoxarife> that would be 'shift'
[11:28] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[11:39] <unRar> !Kubuntu
[12:41] <jonatan> hola
[13:22] <rush_mm> he
[14:02] <BluesKaj> hey folks
[16:05] <utente> Where can I find the history file of Muon Package Manager?
[16:10] <utente> is anyone home?
[16:13] <zen_> /etc/default/grub: 1: #If: not found
[16:28] <soee> argh anyone who can help configure wirless ?
[16:38] <peace> soee: ?
[16:44] <soee> peace: still here ?
[16:44] <peace> soee: ye
[16:45] <soee> peace: listen i have wirles modem etc, installed driver (ath9k_htc)
[16:45] <soee> i can find network in NM
[16:46] <peace> so...
[16:46] <soee> but status is: configuring interface or awaiting for authentication
[16:46] <soee> and nothing, cant connect
[16:46] <peace> soee: sudo apt-get install wicd-kde
[16:46] <peace> try with that
[16:47] <soee> hehe yeah but cant connect to network on desktop :)
[16:47] <peace> soee: connect the wired cable
[16:47] <soee> dont have atm
[16:48] <peace> soee: go in the netbook notebook
[16:48] <soee> im on laptop
[16:49] <peace> soee: download the packages
[16:49] <peace> soee: they will be on /var/cache/apt/archives
[16:50] <soee> peace: is this enough to downlaod this: https://launchpad.net/~hrvojes/+archive/kde-goodies/+files/wicd-kde_0.2.3git20111229%7E241%7Eoneiric1_amd64.deb
[16:50] <soee> and move to dekstop and install ?
[16:51] <peace> you need the wicd-daemon
[16:52] <peace> soee: the esiest way i can image is...
[16:52] <peace> soee: install widcd-kde on your laptop
[16:52] <peace> copy the folder i have said you before on your desktoo
[16:52] <soee> on Windows ?
[16:52] <peace> no comment
[16:53] <peace> soee: get a sick cable for your desktop
[16:53] <peace> or this will be a pain
[16:53] <soee> ;]
[16:56] <toumbo> Its realy annoying when log out and then log in into kde the black interface of some programs
[17:07] <soee> peace: ok wicd-kde isntalled what next ?
[17:07] <peace> soee: then use it xD
[17:07] <peace> wicd-kde
[17:08] <soee> :/
[17:09] <soee> hmm if i try to run it using console i have message that its not installed, but if i try to istall it says it is in newset version
[17:10] <peace> soee: wicd-daemo is running?
[17:10] <peace> soee: kde version ubuntu version?
[17:11] <soee> peace: 11.10 / 4.8 rc1
[17:11] <peace> mm
[17:12] <soee> peace: but it was installed from .deb files
[17:12] <peace> 4.8rc1
[17:12] <peace> ..
[17:12] <peace> type wicd-kde
[17:12] <peace> run :::::::::::::::::::::> type wicd-kde
[17:12] <soee> krunner cant find it, console says its not installed :D
[17:12] <soee> rebooting now, will see
[17:13] <peace> kbuildsycoca4
[17:13] <peace> run this
[17:14] <soee> what is it ?
[17:14] <peace> man kbuildsycoca4
[17:14] <peace> or google it
[17:14] <peace> you should not need
[17:14] <peace> but just to test..
[17:15] <soee> ok wicd-kde works after reboot
[17:16] <soee> peace: networkmanager doesnt have to be switched off right ?
[17:17] <peace> soee: kill it
[17:17] <peace> i like kill applications
[17:17] <peace> xD
[17:18] <soee> omg now again it cant be found ...
[17:46] <bookaballaboddda> hi
[17:47] <bookaballaboddda> i would just like to say hi
[17:47] <bookaballaboddda> and goodebye
[18:10] <alkisg> Dragon player doesn't support subtitles, what's a usual alternative?
[18:10] <alkisg> vlc?
[18:13] <randomatix> alkisg: I like smplayer and totem.
[18:14] <alkisg> I thought totem would pull a lot of gnome dependencies... ty :)
[18:20] <peace> alkisg: vlc is good
[18:20] <peace> kmplayer
[18:21] <alkisg> OK, I'll use vlc then, I'm already used to that. Thank you.
[18:21] <peace> btw there are toons of players
[18:21] <peace> i prefer vlc :)
[18:31] <randomatix> alkisg: SMplayer is QT4 and uses mplayer as a backend.  I switched to it as my primary when VLC was having problems, and have no inclination to go back.
[18:38] <s_p> I heard you like some spam with the spam so spam i give spam to you
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[18:39] <Unit193> !ops | s_p is a spammer
[19:14] <skramer_> hi everybody. could anybody please tell me how to sync BlackBerry with Kontact 4.7.3
[19:45] <rousing> Hi
[19:45] <rousing> can anyone tell me how to install minimal kde desktop ? i'm using server edition
[19:55] <Arnolds> I've got a problem with Kubuntu, I can't install anything on Muon software center or download any updates. It shows: This operation cannot continue since proper authorization was not provided
[19:56] <Arnolds> Thanks!
[19:56] <yofel> Arnolds: is the package 'polkit-kde-1' installed?
[19:57] <Arnolds> Probably not.
[19:57] <yofel> install that with apt and restart your session, it should work then
[19:57] <Arnolds> Ok, thanks!
[20:09] <alkisg> http://userbase.kde.org/Dragon_Player ==> " Support for subtitles: Automatically loads subtitles with the matching name "
[20:09] <alkisg> Has anyone managed to do that? I even `strace`'d it and I didn't see it trying to load my .srt subtitles... (vlc works fine, just wondering why kubuntu would have a media player that doesn't support subtitles as its default one)
[20:19] <atvr> hi how can i creat desktop icon :) sorry i am new
[20:21] <atvr> anyone could help me ??
[20:23] <skramer_> how can I sync my BlackBerry with KDEPIM? The Kontact version is 4.7.3
[20:27] <atvr> i need help setting desktop icon
[20:31] <yofel> atvr: what kind of icon?
[20:33] <atvr> yofel, nevermind lol, i figured mysefl :)
[20:48] <SJr> I cannot login to KDE anymore, this is what I'm getting: http://pastebin.com/Eq7D69Zi
[20:48] <SJr> in my xsession-errors file
[20:57] <Deckard_25> hi, will KDE 4.7.4 packages get into Oneiric? there's very important bug fix: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=272495
[20:59] <who_me_> Deckard_25: the 4.7.4 packages are in the kubuntu ppa
[20:59] <Deckard_25> who_me_:could you give me the name of this ppa?
[21:00] <who_me_> Deckard_25: ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa
[21:01] <Deckard_25> who_me_: thanks a lot!
[21:01] <who_me_> np
[21:01] <who_me_> http://www.kubuntu.org/kde-sc-474
[21:01] <Deckard_25> thanks :)
[21:03] <SJr> I can't seem to login to KDE anymore, even with a new user, here is my xsession-errors: http://pastebin.com/Eq7D69Zi
[21:08] <Snowhog> SJr: Instead of providing the contents of your xsessions-errors file, how about describing what is happening? Do you get to the KDM login screen? If 'yes', are you returned to it (looping problem)?
[21:08] <SJr> sorry I shorted the paste, from before.
[21:08] <SJr> I just get hung on the 'K'
[21:09] <SJr> when the K starts fading in, it just hangs there.
[21:09] <SJr> I can login with xfce no problem
[21:10] <Snowhog> SJr: Reboot in to recovery (single user) mode. At the prompt type: df -h and see what is reported for space available under root ( / ).
[21:11] <SJr> 12 G free out of 28 total
[21:11] <SJr> Is there a reason to reboot into single user mode?
[21:12] <Snowhog> SJr: Hmm. Not a space problem then. When did you last get in successfully, and what has happened since then?
[21:12] <SJr> Home has 4 G free out of 44.
[21:12] <SJr> Probably about 2 weeks ago, nothing the locker was in my laptop, in standby. It did eventually lose power and all the contents of RAM were lost.
[21:12] <SJr> About 6 months it started where new users couldn't login at all
[21:13] <SJr> but up until two weeks ago my user could log in successfully
[21:13] <SJr> sorry the laptop was in my locker*
[21:16] <Snowhog> SJr: Can you boot using the previous kernel?
[21:16] <SJr> Not sure how, and I think if it comes to that I'm just going to wipe and re-install.
[21:17] <Snowhog> SJr: From the Grub menu, or do you have the Grub menu set to hidden?
[21:17] <SJr> probably set to hidden
[21:17] <SJr> I also think I upgraded the kernel jsut now
[21:17] <SJr> (as I did a dist-upgrade to fix it).
[21:17] <SJr> to try to fix it*
[21:28] <Snowhog> SJr: Ensure that none of the file/directories in your users /home directory are owned by root. From the command line type: ls -laR | grep root\ root  and see if any files/directories are shown as owned by root.
[21:29] <SJr> grep root\ root
[21:29] <SJr> Hmmmmm
[21:30] <SJr> Okay some were, and lets see if that works
[21:30] <SJr> Nope
[21:36] <dolphin> hello
[21:36] <Snowhog> SJr: From the command line (having booted into recover mode), can you get to the Desktop Environment by typing:  startx
[21:39] <SJr> Nope it just wants to throw me into xfce
[21:39] <SJr> kde-failsafe works via kdm
[21:42] <SJr> I'm just going to reinstall
[21:42] <SJr> thanks anyway Snowhog
[21:43] <Snowhog> SJr: Okay, using kde-failsafe gets you in. Once in, go to System Settings > Startup and Shutdown > Session Management > On Login and select  Start with an empty session.
[21:46] <atvr> what is the kubuntu off-topic chanel ?
[21:47] <Snowhog> atvr: Where you can talk about non-help stuff -- basic 'chatting'.
[21:47] <Snowhog> !off-topic
[21:47] <atvr> Snowhog, thanks
[21:50] <atvr> Snowhog, do you know how can i get cairo, and is it hard to use
[21:53] <Snowhog> atvr: It's in the repositories, so just launch your package manager and search on cairo-dock
[21:53] <atvr> okay :) thanks
[22:43] <MaxHR> Hello, am getting messages about certificates being bad for secure websites, and when trying to install new packages... can someone advise me how to update the certs?
[23:01] <OutOfControl> What does mode (j 4:10) do?
[23:03] <Snowhog> Riddell: The FloodBotK "tag team" are at it again.
[23:04] <OutOfControl> What does +j do again?
[23:04] <Snowhog> +j "auto join" I think
[23:04] <Unit193> OutOfControl: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[23:04] <OutOfControl> Thanks
[23:06] <OutOfControl> Lets all part and see what happens when we rejoin at once ;p
[23:06] <Snowhog> Well, an OP could do that -- if he/she wanted to.
[23:13] <Resistance> OutOfControl:  i wouldnt recommend tormenting the bots :P
[23:13] <Snowhog> tsimpson: The floodbots are at it again.
[23:14] <OutOfControl> ;p
[23:21] <Snowhog> +j (join throttling) This mode takes one parameter of the form n:t, where 'n' and 't' are positive integers. Only 'n' users may join in each period of 't' seconds. Amazing what you learn when you read the guide.
[23:31] <MaxHR> why would rekonq and muon have security cert problems, and firefox doesn't?  and how can I fix it?
[23:42] <MaxHR> I guess I should dump kubu for ubu, this security thing is not acceptable
[23:45] <vtdpkntu> ciao
[23:46] <vtdpkntu> hello
[23:46] <vtdpkntu> !list