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seb128good morning and happy new year ;-)09:11
rodrigo_hey seb128, happy new year09:13
seb128hey rodrigo_, happy new year to you too! how are you?09:13
rodrigo_seb128, still a bit tired after new year's party :)09:13
rodrigo_you?09:13
seb128tired a bit as well, and I got a cold on thursday which is not totally over09:15
seb128but otherwise good ;-)09:15
rodrigo_good :)09:15
BigWhaleMorning? what's that? :>09:16
dpmhey seb128 and everyone, happy new year too!09:21
seb128hey dpm, happy new year!09:21
BigWhaleI hated 2012 even before it started! Bcs some silly Mayan ran out of stone when making a calendar, everyone is talking about apocalypse ... *sigh* :>09:22
BigWhaleNevertheless, I hope you all have a nice year.09:23
BigWhaleAt least until winter solstice ...09:23
chrisccoulsonhey seb128, happy new year!09:23
chrisccoulsonyou're back to work already?09:23
seb128hey chrisccoulson, happy new year!09:24
seb128chrisccoulson, had nice holidays?09:24
chrisccoulsonseb128, yeah, it was relaxing thanks. and you?09:24
seb128chrisccoulson, how "already"? 2 full weeks off is not enough? ;-)09:24
seb128I've been good at not touching the computer, really great once a year ;-)09:24
seb128chrisccoulson, oh, we don't do the "if holiday day is during w.e so next working day is an holiday"09:25
chrisccoulsonseb128, heh. we have a public holiday today because new years day fell on sunday :)09:25
chrisccoulsonah09:25
chrisccoulsonthat sucks ;)09:25
seb128indeed! ;-)09:25
seb128that's why 2011 sucked09:25
seb128like christmas and new year on sunday09:26
chrisccoulsonyeah, that's a pain. we get additional holidays for both of those :)09:26
chrisccoulsonseb128, oh, it seems that christmas and nyd fall on weekdays this year ;)09:30
seb128chrisccoulson, yeah, 2 years in a row is enough :p (those were on saturday in 2010 iirc)09:31
seb128chrisccoulson, well it shifts from 1 day every year usually09:32
seb1282 this year because we have 29 days in february09:32
seb128(dunno how that's called in english)09:32
chrisccoulsonyeah, we call that a "leap year"09:32
seb128noted ;-)09:33
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seb1281285 emails on precise changes while I was away09:34
seb128some people did work it seems :p09:34
seb128chrisccoulson, do you know if there is a way to change the default zoom level in tb?09:34
chrisccoulsonseb128, i don't think there's a supported way to do that. do you want it larger by default?09:37
seb128yes09:38
seb128changing the font in the preferences works on some emails09:38
seb128could be html emails09:38
seb128it doesn't impact on the i.e -hanges emails09:38
seb128-changes09:38
chrisccoulsoni wonder if you could achieve that by changing this preference to something larger than 100: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Zoom.minPercent09:38
seb128I should maybe change the desktop monospace font size09:38
chrisccoulsonyeah, changing the font size would probably be better09:39
chrisccoulsonalthough, that doesn't seem to work here09:41
chrisccoulsoni think jono already reported a bug about font issues09:41
chrisccoulsonseb128, oh, if you want to increase the font size, it seems that you need to change the monospace size for both "Western" and "Other languages"09:45
chrisccoulsonnot sure why that is, but it seems to work here09:45
seb128chrisccoulson, I just noticed that tb has a monospace font size under "advanced"09:46
chrisccoulsonseb128, yeah, that's the one09:46
seb128chrisccoulson, I just set the minimal font size in that dialog09:47
seb128that did the trick09:47
huatsmorning everyone09:47
seb128lut huats, happy new year!09:48
huatshappy new year seb128 !09:48
ricotzhappy new year everyone!09:59
seb128ricotz, hey,happy new year!10:00
SweetsharkHappy new year, all!10:44
stgraberSweetshark: happy new year!10:47
SweetsharkTo the french guys: What is it about Berlin that you all go there for New Years? It felt like there where more frenchspeaking gals/guys around than german/slavic/english-speaking ones ;)10:48
geserSweetshark: was it you with the big tux near the front of the stage? :)11:30
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GunnarHjseb128: Hi Sebastien, and Happy New Year!13:03
GunnarHjTime to upload a simple patch (bug 909256) to oneiric-proposed? Some users are unable to use gnome-language-selector due to a stupid Python issue.13:03
ubot2`Launchpad bug 909256 in language-selector "gnome-language-selector crashed with ValueError in _build_localename(): too many values to unpack" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90925613:03
seb128hey GunnarHj, happy new year to you as well!13:03
GunnarHjseb128: Tnx13:04
seb128GunnarHj, ok, I will have a look in a bit13:04
seb128thanks for the work on it ;-)13:04
GunnarHjseb128: Great, you are welcome.13:04
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seb128mvo, hey, could you look at bug #910813?13:56
ubot2`Launchpad bug 910813 in computer-janitor "Lucid to Precise failed to calculate the upgrade due to computer-janitor" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91081313:56
seb128jibel, why do we get upgrade bugs assigned to our team btw? ;-)13:57
jibelseb128, computer-janitor is not a desktop package ?13:57
seb128jibel, well the issue is not with computer-janitor, we deprecated and stopped using it, it's an update calculation issue it seems?13:58
jibelseb128, ok, for some reason it is no removed on upgrade to precise while it was few days ago and is now blocking the upgrade.14:00
seb128"Package python-apt has broken Breaks on computer-janitor"14:00
jibelseb128, is there a dedicated team for bugs in software-center of desktop is ok ?14:01
jibels/of/or14:01
seb128jibel, good question, I would like to know as well14:01
seb128tremulox and mvo are in a new team14:01
seb128we have nobody in desktop which knows about s-c code or ever worked on it I think14:01
seb128so it doesn't seem a good fit for those bugs14:01
seb128but I'm not sure if there is a team better suited...14:02
mvojibel: which bug in particular?14:03
seb128mvo, bug #90756814:04
ubot2`Launchpad bug 907568 in software-center "software-center crashed with SIGSEGV in PyGILState_Ensure()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90756814:04
seb128bug #84974514:04
ubot2`Launchpad bug 849745 in software-center "software-center crashed with DBusException in call_blocking(): org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken." [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84974514:04
jibelmvo, all kind of bugs: bug 849745 bug 905605 bug 90461414:04
ubot2`Launchpad bug 905605 in software-center "software-center crashed with AttributeError in _decode_value(): 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'decode'" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90560514:04
ubot2`Launchpad bug 904614 in software-center "can't uninstall software with software-center" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90461414:04
mvothanks, I put that on my list14:05
seb128mvo, not an answer ;-)14:06
seb128mvo, is there a team which would be best suited than canonical-desktop-team for those bugs?14:07
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seb128mvo, it seems we should fix the workflow and find somebody, some team responsible for escalated s-c issues14:07
seb128I'm fine using the desktop team but in practice I doubt we will be very useful for it since we don't have anyone left on team working on s-c14:08
jibelmvo, the current workflow is triager -> desktop-team -> tremolux14:09
jibelmvo, it would be better to have a dedicated s-c team to assign reports directly14:09
seb128jibel, tremulox is not in the desktop team anymore since UDS btw ;-)14:10
mvoseb128: there are the ~software-center-developers - how about that?14:10
seb128jibel, ^14:10
seb128mvo, well, your call really ;-)14:11
seb128mvo, is anyone paying attention to the bugs assigned to this team? ;-) or is that another launchpad spambox? :p14:11
seb128mvo, the idea is just that somebody get notified of escalated issues and decide if that's something that should be worked or not14:11
seb128mvo, i.e no obligation to fix everything coming, just to have a look and check if that's something to better address if you can14:12
jibelmvo, I'm fine with any team as long as it is not a single individual unlike s-c-dev ;-)14:12
mvoseb128: well, currently we don't look at this group, but we can change that :)14:13
mvoseb128, jibel: I like the idea, I will raise it on our mailinglist14:13
mvoso that the others are aware of it14:13
jibelmvo, thanks, let us know when the decision is made and the team is ready for bug assignment.14:29
mvojibel: I see already 4 bugs assigned to them :)14:36
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chrisccoulsonb'ah, FFS, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11581384&postcount=201015:49
chrisccoulsonwe suck15:49
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seb128chrisccoulson, what happpened there?16:30
chrisccoulsonseb128, christmas17:00
seb128chrisccoulson, you have been good at not working during the holidays then? I support that ;-)17:01
seb128oh, pitti got some internet it seems :p17:05
chrisccoulsondid he not have internets?17:06
BigWhaleHow long will Ubuntu stay with Compiz?17:07
chrisccoulsonBigWhale, we'll switch back to mutter on April 1st ;)17:07
BigWhaledon't make fun out of me! ;)17:09
chrisccoulsonheh :)17:09
BigWhalebcs I am caught in a17:09
BigWhalemadness17:09
seb128compiz is only code17:10
seb128it can be changed or fixed17:10
seb128so staying with it or not is not really revelant ;-)17:10
seb128chrisccoulson, he travelled back from Dresden today apparently, he sent an email this morning saying he was off today swapping it with friday17:11
BigWhalewell17:11
BigWhaleI am getting really crappy performance screencapturing with gstreamer17:11
BigWhalea part of it is libvpx and the other part is ximagesrc plugin that captures the screen17:12
BigWhaleso I am thinking about writing a plugin for gstreamer that would capture the screen directly from compiz17:12
BigWhalesomething similar to what was done in gnome shell for clutter17:13
seb128compiz doesn't have anything like that already?17:13
BigWhaleit has a screenshot plugin17:13
BigWhalebut it outputs single screens :>17:13
BigWhalethat would be my starting point17:13
seb128well I guess compiz will stay long enough for that to be useful17:14
seb128would it only be the coming lts which will be supported 5 years17:14
BigWhaleyou have a point there ... silly me ...17:14
seb128then after the lts for the next lts cycle who knows... the world will change, wayland might replace xorg, wms might need lot of changes17:15
seb128nothing planned that I know about though, I'm just ready to bet that we will not stay put tomorrow, either if compiz is adapted, something else used, something new written... who knows ;-)17:16
BigWhaleI'll think about it.17:16
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dan6796hey18:08
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TheMusoHappy new year folks, and its good to be back.22:02
chrisccoulsonhmmm, i'm not even back to work yet, and already firing up my hardy VM :/22:14
chrisccoulsonhappy new year TheMuso :)22:14
jasoncwarner_hey everyone...happy new year!22:17
* TheMuso wathces as mail continues to download...22:22
TheMusowathes22:22
TheMusowatches22:22
TheMusogah22:22
chrisccoulsonhappy new year jasoncwarner_!22:24
* TheMuso is not looking forward to the weather in Budapest... Summer is now starting to show its true colours here in Sydney, and I don't want to have to go back to the cold at all. :)22:25
jasoncwarner_hey chrisccoulson happy new year... :)22:25
chrisccoulsoni'm looking forward to the weather in budapest. anything is better than the grey, dull, dreary, miserable weather we've had here for weeks ;)22:25
TheMusochrisccoulson: We've had a lot of rain this summer so far, to the point where most of us are sick of it. So... precipitation of any kind is not something I want to have to deal with atm... Unelss of course, it is going for a swim in a pool/at the beach.22:28
chrisccoulsonTheMuso, yeah, i wouldn't like any rain. but i'm perfectly ok with cold, crisp weather and a good frost :)22:29
chrisccoulsonjasoncwarner_, did you have a good holiday?22:31
RAOFchrisccoulson: Happy new year!  And congratulations; I don't think I've said that yet :)22:31
chrisccoulsonoh, thanks :)22:31
BigWhaleAre there any compiz hackers working for Canonical/Ubuntu?23:43
RAOFYup.23:44
BigWhaleOh? Where, where? I have questions! :)23:45
RAOFYou'd be looking for smspillaz :)23:45
BigWhaleAwesome!23:46

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