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jutnuxCome on AdSense, validate my ad.00:57
RaycisCharlesjutnux: are you a lady of the night?01:09
jutnuxYes.01:22
jutnux1.22am01:23
jutnux\o/01:23
penguin42well, bloody hell - it works!01:28
jutnuxAnyone alive?01:47
* hamitron yawns02:26
ali1234raspberry pi limited edition boards are now on ebay02:44
ali1234i got the email like 5 minutes ago and the bidding is already at £100002:44
ali1234oh, i guess they went up last night02:46
ali1234email is just late :(02:46
jutnuxali1234: I will not be buying one at that price ;-)03:16
khmDebate between Christianity and Islam :(Is the Bible God's Word?) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlA22NNFlDw - E-mail:M4.Guest@Gmail.com03:38
matttodd03:47
jacobwhmm03:55
jacobwhe posted that to each channel he was in03:56
daubersMorning08:16
brobostigongood morning everyone,10:04
MartijnVdS\o10:07
brobostigono/ MartijnVdS10:07
MartijnVdS\o/ all tests successful10:12
brobostigon:10:13
brobostigon:)10:13
brobostigoncan an app, ran in inside wine, use and or access a device connected to the usb?10:22
AlanBellhttp://wiki.winehq.org/USB10:24
AlanBellso maybe if you build it yourself, I doubt the version in Ubuntu has those patches10:24
brobostigonthank you AlanBell10:24
brobostigoni am using the version in debian.10:25
brobostigonok.10:25
AlanBellall looks a bit experimental :)10:25
brobostigonagreed :)10:25
AlanBellczajkowski: danfish: did you manage to use the groupon voucher?10:39
jacobwmorning10:48
* popey sighs http://www.fernhilllinuxproject.com11:11
czajkowskiAlanBell: morning11:13
czajkowskinot looked at groupon11:14
czajkowskihave to go sprt that out this week11:14
AlanBellok, the voucher seems unuseable, I emailed their support about it11:14
czajkowskiwhat do you mean unuseable11:14
czajkowskisome you have to contact the organisaion first and give the code, some are different11:15
czajkowskipopey: not a nice windows logo :/11:15
AlanBellczajkowski: the voucher is valid from 25/02/12 to 25/02/12 and you have to use it 7 days in advance of it's valid from date11:16
czajkowskiAlanBell: did you go to http://grouponbookings.co.uk/london-irish-rugby-club/11:19
czajkowskihmm11:23
czajkowskiI'll wait till tomorrow and poke11:23
czajkowskiusually it's 2 days after you buy them they work11:23
czajkowskiand given it's been a bank holiday11:23
AlanBellczajkowski: yes, and it didn't work11:23
AlanBellI am sure it can be sorted, was just checking it wasn't just me being clueless11:24
hooverhi folks, happy new year to all11:29
directhexhttp://icculus.org/cgi-bin/finger/finger.pl?user=icculus&date=2012-01-02&time=03-11-15 is an interesting read.11:30
czajkowskiAlanBell: aye I'm sure it will be11:34
MartijnVdSdirecthex: ooh, technical details about GL things ♥ :)11:34
Nafallohmm11:44
* Nafallo debates how much leave he'll need for the damn olympics11:45
MartijnVdSNafallo: ALL of it :)11:50
Nafalloit kinda seems that way.11:50
Nafalloall I had left after my already planned trips at least.11:50
MartijnVdSI was planning on avoiding the UK this year because of the 'lympics11:52
Nafallo27th July until 12th August, and it's not likely wise to travel during them days either.11:53
Nafallowill eeed padding days around it.11:53
danfishAlanBell: not looked at it yet - job for tomorrow11:55
matttAlanBell: my fiancee mentioned something about that voucher too, i'll ask her for clarity today13:44
Ngdamn, I seem to have bought the wrong ram for my microserver15:06
Ngeither that or I bought the right RAM and it doesn't work. not quite sure how to tell ;)15:06
popeywhat ram did you buy Ng ?15:07
popeyi recently bought some, we can compare15:07
Ngpopey: https://twitter.com/#!/cmsj/status/153853909155323905/photo/115:07
popeyhttp://popey.com/~alan/dmi.txt15:08
Ngafaict it's the right speed, and it's Registered-ECC, so I was really expecting it to work, but the BIOS doesn't seem to do anything15:08
popeyNg: http://www.ebuyer.com/172949-kingston-8gb-2x4gb-ddr3-1333mhz-i5-memory-kit-non-ecc-cl9-1-5v-kvr1333d3n9k2-8g15:11
Nghmm, perhaps buying Registered ram was the mistake15:12
Ngpopey: hey that's non-ECC. I thought the thing required ECC?15:12
popeywell mine works15:13
Ngdammit!15:13
NgI spent nearly that much for 2*2GB ECC15:13
popeyalan@ubuntuserver:~$ dmesg | grep ECC15:13
popey[    7.437157] EDAC amd64: This node reports that Memory ECC is currently disabled, set F3x44[22] (0000:00:18.3).15:13
popey[    7.437171] EDAC amd64: ECC disabled in the BIOS or no ECC capability, module will not load.15:13
popey[    7.437174]  Either enable ECC checking or force module loading by setting 'ecc_enable_override'.15:13
Ngwell fine :)15:15
Ngta15:15
Ngat least that makes this a cheap mistake to fix ;)15:15
Ngwell, a mistake that's cheap to fix.15:16
* daubers has spent most of the day designing an enclosure for his nanode15:27
daubersneed to run up to the hackspace one evening this week and laser cut it15:27
Ngpopey: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Komputerbay-1333Mhz-10600-10666-9-9-9-25/dp/B003OSTDPI/ref=sr_1_3?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1325518038&sr=1-3 looks pretty similar, and is in line with my Prime bias ;)15:51
popeyhaha15:51
jacobwwhere did the recipes on ubuntu-uk.org go?16:07
AlanBellhttp://ubuntu-uk.org/category/recipes/ got one to add?16:14
jacobwwell, i'm following a recipe to make lentil chilli, if it works i'll summarise it for our recipes page with the humain obtainable ingredients i'm using16:20
jacobwhuman*16:20
popeyjacobw: i look forward to that16:23
Myrttimmmmm lentils17:01
czajkowskialoha17:38
MartijnVdS\o17:38
dauberso/17:39
TheOpenSourcererEvening all. Good start to the New Year... Just had two phone calls from my Local pub saying I've won in their draw :-) (twice) :-D. Better go and collect my winnings later then17:46
jacobwawesome17:46
penguin42TheOpenSourcerer: How long do you reckon it will take you to drink them?17:47
TheOpenSourcererpenguin42: Dunno. Think it will be bottles of wine or something.17:48
jutnuxEvening lads / ladettes.18:08
jacobwi think most people would reject both those labels18:19
jacobwespecially the latter :P18:19
jacobwanyway, good evening :)18:20
danfishevening all19:05
danfishMy guts have proclaimed Christmas and New Year's officially over19:05
danfishMy liver has decided to fly south for January :/19:06
danfishonly 360 days until we at start again!19:07
* mattt can't wait19:08
ubuntuuk-planet[Alan Pope] Migrating to a New Desktop PC - http://popey.com/blog/2012/01/02/migrating-to-a-new-desktop-pc/19:08
popey3619:08
popeybah19:08
smittixheh thats my main machines hostname too!19:10
matttso did anyone get those dang groupon rugby codes to work?19:16
DJonesPoor Wopr, retired.....19:18
TheOpenSourcererAny bikers? https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/2225119:20
danfishmattt: will try tomorrow19:21
matttdanfish: k, let us know how you get on19:22
danfishnp19:23
smittixCops love my custom Bandit TheOpenSourcerer19:24
ali1234where's that petition about automatically rejecting any petition that uses incorrect spelling or grammar?19:25
DJonesDamm. Why has nobody invented the bottomless jar of mustard19:27
AlanBellthere is always at least one more serving of mustard in the jar if you jiggle the knife about in it for long enough19:27
DJonesyou've not seem a mustard jar after i've been at it19:28
* daubers really wonders about the ethics of the tv licencing agency some days19:50
daubersWonder if I they would still take me to court if I asked them to pay my costs when they're found to be wrong19:57
daubersWhat they want from me = £120, what I'd force them to pay for wasting my time ~£5k19:58
dauberstotal cost to the court system, probably >£10k19:58
* daubers ponders writing to his MP suggesting that the cuts center around the TV licencing agency. They seem to have too many bored lawyers19:59
Laneythey are going to take you to court?19:59
czajkowskidaubers: is the law the same as .ie for just having a tv you need a license regarless of watching broadcasting tv or not20:00
Laneyno20:00
daubersLaney: They're threatening to take me to court. Not actually saying tey will20:00
Laneyoh, yeah, I've had those before. Just ignore them.20:00
daubersLaney: They sent a letter saying that detector vans where in the area, then sent me this one saying that I ignored their previous letter, here is what I need to know for when they take me to court20:01
Laneylook for all the may, might, possibly, etc20:01
DJonesdaubers: Have you told them you don't need a tv licence and the reasons why? We get letters like that at work & I just notify them of why we don't need on, and thats normally enough.  Ignoring the letters is a potential black hole though20:01
daubersI'm tempted to send them a letter back saying that they've ignored my previous correspondance about not requiring a TV licence, here is what they may need to know if I decide to take them to court20:01
daubersDJones: About 15 times20:01
Laneythey can't randomly take people to court20:02
DJonesdaubers: In that case, I'd say let them take you court and instruct your solicitor to apply for damages/fee's so you're not out of pocket20:02
Laneyand AFAIK there is no evidence of detector vans being real20:02
daubersLaney: The way these things are worded is tantamount to blackmail20:02
Laneybasically you should call their bluff, and watch as nothing happens20:03
* Laney gtg20:03
DJonesPlus £10K per letter/notification you've already sent,  for the inconvinience of replying that they've ignored20:03
dauberstempted to throw together a little bot that will just fill in their web form 100,000 times to say that I don't need a TV licenec20:09
AlanBellczajkowski: TV license is for live or nearly live TV20:12
AlanBellor stuff that you record live20:12
daubers(as your TV is watching it for you)20:15
daubersCould really do with an electric monk around here20:15
daubersAlso there is no TV Licensing agency, it's run by Capita20:16
gordonjcpdaubers: I had one20:16
dauberswho tend to put words such as "selling" in their job ads20:16
gordonjcpbut the man from the monk shop said it needed a whole new motherboard20:17
daubersgordonjcp: Been ages since I read that book20:19
gordonjcp:-)20:19
ali1234i concur that you should call their bluff20:20
ali1234also detector vans aren't real, unless you count a normal van with a guy in it who looks through your window for a TV20:21
daubersI'd also question whether they can take you to court when they only contact you as "The legal occupier"20:23
gordonjcpali1234: not now, but they did exist20:24
daubersSurprised the vans weren't illegal under wiretapping laws20:25
gordonjcpdaubers: what wires would they be tapping?20:25
gordonjcpafaik the last of them were scrapped about ten years ago20:26
mgdmgordonjcp: what did they look for? The IF?20:28
gordonjcpmgdm: scan coils20:34
gordonjcpmgdm: if you have a CRT television you can find it pretty accurately by listening for the harmonics from the scan coils20:35
mgdmahh20:35
gordonjcptune basically anywhere on a longwave radio and you'll find a sharp null end-on with the aerial20:36
dauberscould put a foi request in to see if the numbers they're reporting are actually true or not20:37
daubersNice, they class everyone without a licence as an evader for the official statistics http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/about/foi-licences-facts-and-figures-AB18/20:43
daubersAlso intrigued by the fact that the number of people who don't renew their licence has been ignored under section 31 of the FoI act20:46
daubersNot entirley sure why they would do that....20:46
mgdmಠ_ಠ20:49
Semperfi30Hello, I was wondering if someone could tell me where all of the boot configuration files are located in Ubuntu 11.10. I am rsyncing my website to a VDS and I need to exclude all boot related files and folders from the sync process.20:58
daubersSemperfi30: Surely it'd be easier to just rsync the folders containing the website data rather than the whole thing with lots of exclusions?21:21
ubuntuuk-planet[Alistair McKinlay] Tech Predictions: 2012 - http://www.10people.co.uk/index.php/2012/01/predictions-2012/22:08
Semperfi30@daubers sorry I went afk, that would be simpler but no ideal for my current situation.22:27
Semperfi30not*22:27
Myrttiho-hum22:50
jutnuxAnyone got any blogs I can follow? :-D23:30
* jacobw plans to start blogging this year23:30
* jutnux just has23:30
jacobwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o24eqIt7Jpo23:31
jacobwjutnux: link?23:32
jutnuxjacobw: http://jutnux.co.uk/blog23:34
jacobwcool :)23:35
jacobwso you got that vps?23:35
jutnuxIndeed I did.23:35
jutnuxIt is amazing.23:36
jacobw:D23:37
jutnuxAre you hosted on bitfolk?23:37
jacobwon bytemark23:37
* jutnux facepalms23:39
jutnuxCntrl+W'd on the wrong app23:39
* hamitron would get a different provider, if he wasn't so tight23:39
jutnuxWhat provider do you use hamitron?23:40
hamitronbuyvm23:40
hamitronbut a vps is something I like and use, but never get around to using as much as I would like23:41
hamitron:D23:41
jutnuxDefinitely worth the £1023:42
gordonjcpbitfolk ftw23:42
hamitronper month or year?23:42
jutnuxmonth23:42
jacobwsocial policy in the US is odd23:50
jacobwi wonder whether any of the apparently insane candidates are just cynically winning votes and find criticism of their proposed policies amusing23:52
jutnux*cough* Rick Perry *cough*23:54
Seeker`anyone tried using boblight with vdpau?23:56

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