[00:57] <jutnux> Come on AdSense, validate my ad.
[01:09] <RaycisCharles> jutnux: are you a lady of the night?
[01:22] <jutnux> Yes.
[01:23] <jutnux> 1.22am
[01:23] <jutnux> \o/
[01:28] <penguin42> well, bloody hell - it works!
[01:47] <jutnux> Anyone alive?
[02:26]  * hamitron yawns
[02:44] <ali1234> raspberry pi limited edition boards are now on ebay
[02:44] <ali1234> i got the email like 5 minutes ago and the bidding is already at £1000
[02:46] <ali1234> oh, i guess they went up last night
[02:46] <ali1234> email is just late :(
[03:16] <jutnux> ali1234: I will not be buying one at that price ;-)
[03:38] <khm> Debate between Christianity and Islam :(Is the Bible God's Word?) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlA22NNFlDw - E-mail:M4.Guest@Gmail.com
[03:47] <mattt> odd
[03:55] <jacobw> hmm
[03:56] <jacobw> he posted that to each channel he was in
[08:16] <daubers> Morning
[10:04] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[10:07] <MartijnVdS> \o
[10:07] <brobostigon> o/ MartijnVdS
[10:12] <MartijnVdS> \o/ all tests successful
[10:13] <brobostigon> :
[10:13] <brobostigon> :)
[10:22] <brobostigon> can an app, ran in inside wine, use and or access a device connected to the usb?
[10:24] <AlanBell> http://wiki.winehq.org/USB
[10:24] <AlanBell> so maybe if you build it yourself, I doubt the version in Ubuntu has those patches
[10:24] <brobostigon> thank you AlanBell
[10:25] <brobostigon> i am using the version in debian.
[10:25] <brobostigon> ok.
[10:25] <AlanBell> all looks a bit experimental :)
[10:25] <brobostigon> agreed :)
[10:39] <AlanBell> czajkowski: danfish: did you manage to use the groupon voucher?
[10:48] <jacobw> morning
[11:11]  * popey sighs http://www.fernhilllinuxproject.com
[11:13] <czajkowski> AlanBell: morning
[11:14] <czajkowski> not looked at groupon
[11:14] <czajkowski> have to go sprt that out this week
[11:14] <AlanBell> ok, the voucher seems unuseable, I emailed their support about it
[11:14] <czajkowski> what do you mean unuseable
[11:15] <czajkowski> some you have to contact the organisaion first and give the code, some are different
[11:15] <czajkowski> popey: not a nice windows logo :/
[11:16] <AlanBell> czajkowski: the voucher is valid from 25/02/12 to 25/02/12 and you have to use it 7 days in advance of it's valid from date
[11:19] <czajkowski> AlanBell: did you go to http://grouponbookings.co.uk/london-irish-rugby-club/
[11:23] <czajkowski> hmm
[11:23] <czajkowski> I'll wait till tomorrow and poke
[11:23] <czajkowski> usually it's 2 days after you buy them they work
[11:23] <czajkowski> and given it's been a bank holiday
[11:23] <AlanBell> czajkowski: yes, and it didn't work
[11:24] <AlanBell> I am sure it can be sorted, was just checking it wasn't just me being clueless
[11:29] <hoover> hi folks, happy new year to all
[11:30] <directhex> http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/finger/finger.pl?user=icculus&date=2012-01-02&time=03-11-15 is an interesting read.
[11:34] <czajkowski> AlanBell: aye I'm sure it will be
[11:34] <MartijnVdS> directhex: ooh, technical details about GL things ♥ :)
[11:44] <Nafallo> hmm
[11:45]  * Nafallo debates how much leave he'll need for the damn olympics
[11:50] <MartijnVdS> Nafallo: ALL of it :)
[11:50] <Nafallo> it kinda seems that way.
[11:50] <Nafallo> all I had left after my already planned trips at least.
[11:52] <MartijnVdS> I was planning on avoiding the UK this year because of the 'lympics
[11:53] <Nafallo> 27th July until 12th August, and it's not likely wise to travel during them days either.
[11:53] <Nafallo> will eeed padding days around it.
[11:55] <danfish> AlanBell: not looked at it yet - job for tomorrow
[13:44] <mattt> AlanBell: my fiancee mentioned something about that voucher too, i'll ask her for clarity today
[15:06] <Ng> damn, I seem to have bought the wrong ram for my microserver
[15:06] <Ng> either that or I bought the right RAM and it doesn't work. not quite sure how to tell ;)
[15:07] <popey> what ram did you buy Ng ?
[15:07] <popey> i recently bought some, we can compare
[15:07] <Ng> popey: https://twitter.com/#!/cmsj/status/153853909155323905/photo/1
[15:08] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/dmi.txt
[15:08] <Ng> afaict it's the right speed, and it's Registered-ECC, so I was really expecting it to work, but the BIOS doesn't seem to do anything
[15:11] <popey> Ng: http://www.ebuyer.com/172949-kingston-8gb-2x4gb-ddr3-1333mhz-i5-memory-kit-non-ecc-cl9-1-5v-kvr1333d3n9k2-8g
[15:12] <Ng> hmm, perhaps buying Registered ram was the mistake
[15:12] <Ng> popey: hey that's non-ECC. I thought the thing required ECC?
[15:13] <popey> well mine works
[15:13] <Ng> dammit!
[15:13] <Ng> I spent nearly that much for 2*2GB ECC
[15:13] <popey> alan@ubuntuserver:~$ dmesg | grep ECC
[15:13] <popey> [    7.437157] EDAC amd64: This node reports that Memory ECC is currently disabled, set F3x44[22] (0000:00:18.3).
[15:13] <popey> [    7.437171] EDAC amd64: ECC disabled in the BIOS or no ECC capability, module will not load.
[15:13] <popey> [    7.437174]  Either enable ECC checking or force module loading by setting 'ecc_enable_override'.
[15:15] <Ng> well fine :)
[15:15] <Ng> ta
[15:15] <Ng> at least that makes this a cheap mistake to fix ;)
[15:16] <Ng> well, a mistake that's cheap to fix.
[15:27]  * daubers has spent most of the day designing an enclosure for his nanode
[15:27] <daubers> need to run up to the hackspace one evening this week and laser cut it
[15:51] <Ng> popey: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Komputerbay-1333Mhz-10600-10666-9-9-9-25/dp/B003OSTDPI/ref=sr_1_3?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1325518038&sr=1-3 looks pretty similar, and is in line with my Prime bias ;)
[15:51] <popey> haha
[16:07] <jacobw> where did the recipes on ubuntu-uk.org go?
[16:14] <AlanBell> http://ubuntu-uk.org/category/recipes/ got one to add?
[16:20] <jacobw> well, i'm following a recipe to make lentil chilli, if it works i'll summarise it for our recipes page with the humain obtainable ingredients i'm using
[16:20] <jacobw> human*
[16:23] <popey> jacobw: i look forward to that
[17:01] <Myrtti> mmmmm lentils
[17:38] <czajkowski> aloha
[17:38] <MartijnVdS> \o
[17:39] <daubers> o/
[17:46] <TheOpenSourcerer> Evening all. Good start to the New Year... Just had two phone calls from my Local pub saying I've won in their draw :-) (twice) :-D. Better go and collect my winnings later then
[17:46] <jacobw> awesome
[17:47] <penguin42> TheOpenSourcerer: How long do you reckon it will take you to drink them?
[17:48] <TheOpenSourcerer> penguin42: Dunno. Think it will be bottles of wine or something.
[18:08] <jutnux> Evening lads / ladettes.
[18:19] <jacobw> i think most people would reject both those labels
[18:19] <jacobw> especially the latter :P
[18:20] <jacobw> anyway, good evening :)
[19:05] <danfish> evening all
[19:05] <danfish> My guts have proclaimed Christmas and New Year's officially over
[19:06] <danfish> My liver has decided to fly south for January :/
[19:07] <danfish> only 360 days until we at start again!
[19:08]  * mattt can't wait
[19:08] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Alan Pope] Migrating to a New Desktop PC - http://popey.com/blog/2012/01/02/migrating-to-a-new-desktop-pc/
[19:08] <popey> 36
[19:08] <popey> bah
[19:10] <smittix> heh thats my main machines hostname too!
[19:16] <mattt> so did anyone get those dang groupon rugby codes to work?
[19:18] <DJones> Poor Wopr, retired.....
[19:20] <TheOpenSourcerer> Any bikers? https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/22251
[19:21] <danfish> mattt: will try tomorrow
[19:22] <mattt> danfish: k, let us know how you get on
[19:23] <danfish> np
[19:24] <smittix> Cops love my custom Bandit TheOpenSourcerer
[19:25] <ali1234> where's that petition about automatically rejecting any petition that uses incorrect spelling or grammar?
[19:27] <DJones> Damm. Why has nobody invented the bottomless jar of mustard
[19:27] <AlanBell> there is always at least one more serving of mustard in the jar if you jiggle the knife about in it for long enough
[19:28] <DJones> you've not seem a mustard jar after i've been at it
[19:50]  * daubers really wonders about the ethics of the tv licencing agency some days
[19:57] <daubers> Wonder if I they would still take me to court if I asked them to pay my costs when they're found to be wrong
[19:58] <daubers> What they want from me = £120, what I'd force them to pay for wasting my time ~£5k
[19:58] <daubers> total cost to the court system, probably >£10k
[19:59]  * daubers ponders writing to his MP suggesting that the cuts center around the TV licencing agency. They seem to have too many bored lawyers
[19:59] <Laney> they are going to take you to court?
[20:00] <czajkowski> daubers: is the law the same as .ie for just having a tv you need a license regarless of watching broadcasting tv or not
[20:00] <Laney> no
[20:00] <daubers> Laney: They're threatening to take me to court. Not actually saying tey will
[20:00] <Laney> oh, yeah, I've had those before. Just ignore them.
[20:01] <daubers> Laney: They sent a letter saying that detector vans where in the area, then sent me this one saying that I ignored their previous letter, here is what I need to know for when they take me to court
[20:01] <Laney> look for all the may, might, possibly, etc
[20:01] <DJones> daubers: Have you told them you don't need a tv licence and the reasons why? We get letters like that at work & I just notify them of why we don't need on, and thats normally enough.  Ignoring the letters is a potential black hole though
[20:01] <daubers> I'm tempted to send them a letter back saying that they've ignored my previous correspondance about not requiring a TV licence, here is what they may need to know if I decide to take them to court
[20:01] <daubers> DJones: About 15 times
[20:02] <Laney> they can't randomly take people to court
[20:02] <DJones> daubers: In that case, I'd say let them take you court and instruct your solicitor to apply for damages/fee's so you're not out of pocket
[20:02] <Laney> and AFAIK there is no evidence of detector vans being real
[20:02] <daubers> Laney: The way these things are worded is tantamount to blackmail
[20:03] <Laney> basically you should call their bluff, and watch as nothing happens
[20:03]  * Laney gtg
[20:03] <DJones> Plus £10K per letter/notification you've already sent,  for the inconvinience of replying that they've ignored
[20:09] <daubers> tempted to throw together a little bot that will just fill in their web form 100,000 times to say that I don't need a TV licenec
[20:12] <AlanBell> czajkowski: TV license is for live or nearly live TV
[20:12] <AlanBell> or stuff that you record live
[20:15] <daubers> (as your TV is watching it for you)
[20:15] <daubers> Could really do with an electric monk around here
[20:16] <daubers> Also there is no TV Licensing agency, it's run by Capita
[20:16] <gordonjcp> daubers: I had one
[20:16] <daubers> who tend to put words such as "selling" in their job ads
[20:17] <gordonjcp> but the man from the monk shop said it needed a whole new motherboard
[20:19] <daubers> gordonjcp: Been ages since I read that book
[20:19] <gordonjcp> :-)
[20:20] <ali1234> i concur that you should call their bluff
[20:21] <ali1234> also detector vans aren't real, unless you count a normal van with a guy in it who looks through your window for a TV
[20:23] <daubers> I'd also question whether they can take you to court when they only contact you as "The legal occupier"
[20:24] <gordonjcp> ali1234: not now, but they did exist
[20:25] <daubers> Surprised the vans weren't illegal under wiretapping laws
[20:25] <gordonjcp> daubers: what wires would they be tapping?
[20:26] <gordonjcp> afaik the last of them were scrapped about ten years ago
[20:28] <mgdm> gordonjcp: what did they look for? The IF?
[20:34] <gordonjcp> mgdm: scan coils
[20:35] <gordonjcp> mgdm: if you have a CRT television you can find it pretty accurately by listening for the harmonics from the scan coils
[20:35] <mgdm> ahh
[20:36] <gordonjcp> tune basically anywhere on a longwave radio and you'll find a sharp null end-on with the aerial
[20:37] <daubers> could put a foi request in to see if the numbers they're reporting are actually true or not
[20:43] <daubers> Nice, they class everyone without a licence as an evader for the official statistics http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/about/foi-licences-facts-and-figures-AB18/
[20:46] <daubers> Also intrigued by the fact that the number of people who don't renew their licence has been ignored under section 31 of the FoI act
[20:46] <daubers> Not entirley sure why they would do that....
[20:49] <mgdm> ಠ_ಠ
[20:58] <Semperfi30> Hello, I was wondering if someone could tell me where all of the boot configuration files are located in Ubuntu 11.10. I am rsyncing my website to a VDS and I need to exclude all boot related files and folders from the sync process.
[21:21] <daubers> Semperfi30: Surely it'd be easier to just rsync the folders containing the website data rather than the whole thing with lots of exclusions?
[22:08] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Alistair McKinlay] Tech Predictions: 2012 - http://www.10people.co.uk/index.php/2012/01/predictions-2012/
[22:27] <Semperfi30> @daubers sorry I went afk, that would be simpler but no ideal for my current situation.
[22:27] <Semperfi30> not*
[22:50] <Myrtti> ho-hum
[23:30] <jutnux> Anyone got any blogs I can follow? :-D
[23:30]  * jacobw plans to start blogging this year
[23:30]  * jutnux just has
[23:31] <jacobw> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o24eqIt7Jpo
[23:32] <jacobw> jutnux: link?
[23:34] <jutnux> jacobw: http://jutnux.co.uk/blog
[23:35] <jacobw> cool :)
[23:35] <jacobw> so you got that vps?
[23:35] <jutnux> Indeed I did.
[23:36] <jutnux> It is amazing.
[23:37] <jacobw> :D
[23:37] <jutnux> Are you hosted on bitfolk?
[23:37] <jacobw> on bytemark
[23:39]  * jutnux facepalms
[23:39] <jutnux> Cntrl+W'd on the wrong app
[23:39]  * hamitron would get a different provider, if he wasn't so tight
[23:40] <jutnux> What provider do you use hamitron?
[23:40] <hamitron> buyvm
[23:41] <hamitron> but a vps is something I like and use, but never get around to using as much as I would like
[23:41] <hamitron> :D
[23:42] <jutnux> Definitely worth the £10
[23:42] <gordonjcp> bitfolk ftw
[23:42] <hamitron> per month or year?
[23:42] <jutnux> month
[23:50] <jacobw> social policy in the US is odd
[23:52] <jacobw> i wonder whether any of the apparently insane candidates are just cynically winning votes and find criticism of their proposed policies amusing
[23:54] <jutnux> *cough* Rick Perry *cough*
[23:56] <Seeker`> anyone tried using boblight with vdpau?