[00:00] <metaspike> but not good.
[00:00] <slipknot> metaspike: ok tnx i will try
[00:00] <asterisc> bandit22: there's a way to upgrade firefox in 10.04 too.. by adding the ppa:mozillateam/firefox -stable repository
[00:01] <asterisc> bandit22: this seem to work: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Firefox-8-in-Ubuntu-10-04-and-10-10-232859.shtml
[00:02] <bandit22> yes thanks I will probably rematersystem first and then do that
[00:02] <asterisc> bandit22: good luck!
[00:03] <dejavou42> Happy New Year everyone
[00:03] <guilhermeba> ubuntu br
[00:03] <freenodiz> kk,I need to install the latest stable version of nginx in my ubuntu lucid 10.04 box.Can you help me with the command?
[00:04] <cipherboy> freenodiz: Sure, how do you want to install?
[00:05] <slipknot> i get other error when i try to put a repos http://pastebin.com/XpZ9d0k6
[00:05] <cipherboy> freenodiz: actually, http://wiki.nginx.org/Install has all you need to know, regardless of how you want to install it.
[00:05] <freenodiz> er...not sure cipherboy,just like normal,not compilling,the easiest and most stable way
[00:06] <cipherboy> slipknot: looks like you are missing a part of add-apt-repository.
[00:07] <slipknot> missing a part !!!!
[00:08] <cipherboy> slipknot: scratch that.  pastebin /etc/lsb-release
[00:08] <cipherboy> slipknot: btw, looking at http://askubuntu.com/questions/49040/apt-could-not-find-a-distribution-template-error specifically.
[00:08] <slipknot> ok
[00:11] <u> ..
[00:11] <cipherboy> freenodiz: did my link answer your question?
[00:11] <slipknot> cipherboy: http://pastebin.com/DNN7CWJF
[00:11] <freenodiz> cipherboy,i'm kinda lost there to be honest
[00:12] <cipherboy> freenodiz: (from http://wiki.nginx.org/Install#Ubuntu_PPA): "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nginx/stable && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nginx"  should do it in one line.
[00:13] <freenodiz> cipherboy,thanks a bunch!happy new year!!!
[00:13] <freenodiz> cipherboy ++
[00:14] <cipherboy> slipknot: You are using Ultimate Edition? Explains the repo not working.
[00:16] <slipknot> cipherboy: how i can now the real repo for i can change it
[00:17] <totesmuhgoats> hi friends
[00:17] <cipherboy> slipknot: come again?
[00:18] <shadowh511> hey, anyone know how to set up a sftp chroot?
[00:18] <shadowh511> I have it mostly set up, but i keep getting errors
[00:18] <slipknot> cipherboy: what !
[00:19] <cipherboy> slipknot: could you rephrase your sentence? "how i can now the real repo for i can change it" does not parse.
[00:19] <shadowh511> I am having trouble with an SFTP chroot,
[00:20] <cipherboy> shadowh511: sorry, not knowledgeable about sftp chroots.
[00:21] <Ice_Phantom> ATTENTION:  User ubottu : thanks for your help with CUPS support.
[00:21] <shadowh511> !help sftp chroot
[00:22] <cipherboy> Ice_Phantom: see ubottu's latest message. :P
[00:22] <Ice_Phantom> !last ubottu
[00:22] <Ice_Phantom> Cipherboy: How to check for last message?
[00:23] <escott> shadowh511, www.debian-administration.org/articles/590
[00:23] <Ice_Phantom> oic it.
[00:23] <cipherboy> Ice_Phantom: <ubottu> shadowh511: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[00:23]  * Ice_Phantom waves
[00:23] <cipherboy> escott: looks down to me, could you provide another site?
[00:24] <shadowh511> down to me too
[00:24] <slipknot> cipherboy: what is the lsb-release Ubuntu Natty Narwhal (11.04)
[00:24] <slipknot> cipherboy: what is the lsb-release for Ubuntu Natty Narwhal (11.04)
[00:25] <cipherboy> slipknot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/790054/
[00:25] <cipherboy> slipknot: but then you will need to check apt sources, etc. Are you running 11.04 or Ultimate Edition?
[00:26] <fridgerator> when i run 'sudo apt-get update', i get - 'sudo: apt-get: command not found'    how could i be missing apt-get when i know ive used it before?
[00:26] <cipherboy> sorry all, miss anything?
[00:26] <Flannel> fridgerator: Can you please pastebin your command and the respones you get?
[00:27] <cipherboy> fridgerator: run sudo echo $PATH
[00:27] <cipherboy> fridgerator: after Flannel's suggestion.
[00:28] <slipknot> cipherboy: DOES i need to reboot my pc for the command can work
[00:28] <cipherboy> slipknot: what command?
[00:28] <slipknot> cipherboy: because i change the file and i get the same error
[00:28] <fridgerator> cipherboy here is my path - http://pastebin.com/gWxXDAEt
[00:28] <Blackadder> hi can somone help me with sun Java
[00:29] <slipknot> cipherboy: add-apt-repository
[00:29] <cipherboy> slipknot: Are you running ultimate edition or ubuntu?
[00:29] <Flannel> fridgerator: Please do the command again in a terminal, and just copy/paste the two-three lines that consist of your prompt, the command, the response.
[00:29] <slipknot> ultimate edition
[00:29] <Blackadder> in server apt-get install sun-java6-jre  package not found although I have done this months ago
[00:30] <fridgerator> alright nevermind, i'll figure it out msyelf
[00:30] <slipknot> cipherboy: ultimate edition
[00:31] <cipherboy> fridgerator: looks like your path is correct.
[00:31] <Blackadder> How do I insall sun java on Ubuntu server now it is not in the repository
[00:31] <Oins> Hi. How can I disable the recycle bin on some devices (especial on samba mounts) ?
[00:31] <Flannel> cipherboy: He left
[00:32] <cipherboy> slipknot: As I thought. Revert back to the original /etc/lsb-release.
[00:32] <i3luefire> what is the best method for backing up my laptop to my server?
[00:32] <cipherboy> Flannel: my bad, don't see quits/joins.
[00:33] <cipherboy> Blackadder: Use openjdk. Oracle refused to renew the sun distributor's license
[00:33] <Blackadder> I have even namo /etc/apt/source.list & changed that to multiverse & still no go
[00:33] <itaylor57> Blackadder, https://launchpad.net/~ferramroberto/+archive/java
[00:33] <cipherboy> Oins: don't use nautilus to view them.
[00:34] <cipherboy> i3luefire: define best. What do you want backed up, what don't you want backed up, how easy does it have to be to restore, etc?
[00:34] <Blackadder> can I install from luanchpad site directly to server
[00:34] <cipherboy> i3luefire: I use tar to create a compressed archive of my root, then push it to a server.
[00:35] <Oins> cipherboy: thanks for the tip, but is there no option for nautilus to disable recycle bin on some devices?
[00:35] <Blackadder> Now Java tomorrow mysql Oracle sukcs big time
[00:36] <i3luefire> cipherboy: best = easiest , i want everything backed up , easy to restore , i have a btrfs snapshot to work with
[00:36] <cipherboy> Blackadder: easier to do (assuming you are truly running Ubuntu)  "sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ferramroberto/java" without quotes.
[00:36] <OffGridOps> ubuntu 11.10:  friend wants me to install ubuntu 11.10 however he runs verizon 4g wireless modem from usb stick.  is there anywhere i can read on this or does anyone have any info before i flash his drive?  thanx
[00:36] <cipherboy> slipknot: if you read Ultimate Edition's page on adding repositories you should be able to figure out how to add them. Don't use apt-add-repository, modify the sources.lst.
[00:37] <Blackadder> cool thanks man I will try it on the new server I have 4 Ubuntu servers installed java apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[00:37] <Blackadder> this time around I thought somethjing has gone amiss
[00:37] <cipherboy> Oins: looking like a no: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/118988
[00:38] <iShaman> http://cmyip.com
[00:38] <iShaman> ubottu: yu no visit http://cmyip.com
[00:38] <iShaman> rud imo
[00:39] <cipherboy> i3luefire: not familiar with btrfs, cli or gui?
[00:39] <clear`> anyone know how to complete remove gnome-shell, somehow i screwed it up and need to start fresh with it
[00:39] <cipherboy> OffGridOps: try using it with the live cd, make sure you check for drivers.
[00:39] <clear`> remove and purge didnt work
[00:39] <OffGridOps> ok i ran off usb but when i pop the modem in no go on reading the modem
[00:39] <iShaman> clear`: first kill -9 *
[00:39] <iShaman> then
[00:39] <iShaman> rm the bin
[00:39] <cipherboy> clear`: ignore him.
[00:39] <iShaman> should be in /usr/bin
[00:40] <OffGridOps> im on it if u could tell me where to look as i am typing from desktop
[00:40] <iShaman> cipherboy: why?
[00:40] <iShaman> I am trying to help
[00:40] <iShaman> That's fairly rude
[00:40] <cipherboy> iShaman: won't fix the config issues.
[00:41] <clear`> cipherboy: how do i fix the config issues?
[00:41] <iShaman> clear`: try removing gnome?
[00:41] <embrik> I need oracle java7 for plugin in firefox and/or Chrome. Anybody who knows about a howto which works?
[00:41] <Myrtti> iShaman: If you can't give valid advice, then please stop trying.
[00:41] <clear`> i have
[00:42] <clear`> i removed it from the software center and through terminal, also purged
[00:42] <cipherboy> clear`: you have to locate the config directory in your home directory. Also, don't remove gnome...
[00:42] <clear`> but the configure is still the same after re-installing
[00:42] <itaylor57> embrik, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-jdk-in.html
[00:42] <clear`> well, removed gnome-shell
[00:42] <i3luefire> cipherboy: the btrfs thing should not matter. i just mean i have a stationary snapshot of a filesystem to work with so no need to worry about changing files or anything. and if the solution is cli i just need it to be short and easy to follow.
[00:42] <cipherboy> OffGridOps: did you check for drivers?
[00:42] <OffGridOps> @cipherboy:  dont know how
[00:43] <OffGridOps> i am in the guts right now
[00:43] <iShaman> Myrtti: are you sure my advice is not valid?
[00:43] <slipknot> cipherboy: any idea how i fix lsb-release
[00:43] <Oins> cipherboy: looks like this. Thanks a lot !
[00:43] <embrik> itaylor57, tried that but it didn't show up in firefox - but if you know it works, I will do it again - maybe I missed something the last time i tried
[00:44] <itaylor57> embrik, i use chromium I havent' checked in ff
[00:44] <cipherboy> i3luefire:  while running off usb/liveCD: tar -cf /path/to/server/backup-date.tar.gz /path/to/mounted_root
[00:44] <embrik> itaylor57, i use 10.04
[00:44] <cipherboy> slipknot: You have your pastebin still? copy from there.
[00:44] <embrik> itaylor57, does it need a never distro?
[00:44] <embrik> newer
[00:45] <itaylor57> that link is for 11.10
[00:46] <cipherboy> OffGridOps: what version are you using? If you are on the livecd/liveusb of a newer version, there is a search icon (top left corner), in the bar, search for drivers.
[00:46] <iShaman> Myrtti: So you have no counterargument?
[00:46] <cipherboy> clear`: did you find the config dir?
[00:46] <OffGridOps> k brb  using 11.10
[00:46] <clear`> i just removed it again, no i havent found the config dir
[00:47] <slipknot> cipherboy: yes i now bat how i fix add-apt-repository result
[00:47] <clear`> /usr/share/gnome-shell
[00:47] <cipherboy> slipknot: you don't. You need to use http://ultimateedition.info/ultimate-edition-repository/#TERMINAL
[00:47] <Myrtti> iShaman: sorry, had to step away for a while - removing the binary with your advice will not help
[00:48] <cipherboy> clear`: what exactly is messed up? can't find the config dir on my system as I don't run gnome-shell. What version of ubuntu?
[00:48] <clear`> 11.10
[00:48] <OffGridOps> @cipherboy:  using 11.10  it doesnt read the modem as it isn't listed as connected
[00:48] <Myrtti> !ultimate | slipknot, cipherboy
[00:48] <clear`> well, i dont know exactly what happened, but the fonts in everything is fubar
[00:48] <cipherboy> Myrtti: that was the command I was looking for, thanks.
[00:48] <clear`> extremely blurry, so blurry i cant read anything
[00:49] <clear`> i went through and tried to change the fonts used, but nothing changed
[00:49] <cipherboy> clear`: sounds like font issue, not gnome-shell, unless you tried it with a different wm?
[00:49] <clear`> i am on unity now
[00:49] <clear`> and everything is fine
[00:49] <cipherboy> clear`: and it works?
[00:50] <clear`> its only with gnome-shell
[00:50] <cipherboy> OffGridOps: unplug the modem, open terminal, plug in modem, pastebin the results of dmesg | tail
[00:51] <JasonGriffee> i have a seroius problem with my ubuntu sorces, it wount let me install anything from the software center because it's "untrusted'?
[00:51] <JasonGriffee> same with update manager
[00:51] <cipherboy> JasonGriffee: sudo apt-get update
[00:52] <dr_willis> JasonGriffee:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/71188/how-to-bypass-remove-disable-the-untrusted-package-authentication
[00:52] <Blackadder> Thanks added the ferramroberto repository & installed like a charm & managed to build my app
[00:52] <Blackadder> Thanks for the help
[00:52] <Zeraphin> Any Linux IT professionals out there? I'm looking for a program to monitor 25 or so systems. Monitor email and network traffic. Any suggestions?
[00:53] <dr_willis> !info ntop
[00:53] <cryptopsy> what?
[00:54] <OffGridOps> @ cipher:  wehre do i pastebin?
[00:55] <cryptopsy> OffGridOps: spagetti is STRAIGHT too, until it gets HOT and WET
[00:55] <cryptopsy> oh, try pastebin.com
[00:55] <dr_willis> !pastebin | OffGridOps
[00:57] <OffGridOps> paste.ubuntu.com/790070/
[01:00] <OffGridOps> paste.ubuntu.com/790073/ with the usb modem attached
[01:03] <joseph_> the numeric keyboard of my hp 4510s is not working
[01:03] <joseph_> any idea why?
[01:04] <dr_willis> numlock stuck..
[01:04] <dr_willis> does it work in the console?
[01:04] <dr_willis> does it work in the bios.
[01:05] <Chipzzz> is that from a cold boot or hibernate?
[01:05] <JasonGriffee> cipherboy, thanks
[01:05] <Chipzzz> (or both)
[01:06] <kingdavid63> really loving the new ubuntu 11.10, my first time... maybe replace windows?
[01:07] <Chipzzz> kingdavid63: tried GLX-Dock yet?
[01:07] <OffGridOps> @cipher:  the Novatel WIreless 4G shows up in the connections but it is lit grey instead of bright white like the hard wired one i have in there
[01:07] <kingdavid63> nope what is it? sorry for the noobness.. :/
[01:07] <Asar> hola, there is a necessite for a discovering a way to register a domain name outside unless a Linux Server has a way to register. Is a person able to assist
[01:07] <cryptopsy> i uzing my pants ...
[01:08] <Chipzzz> kingdavid63: it a dock that sits at the bottom of the screen... like a Mac's... looks great & has some excellent applets
[01:08] <nubcake> good morning
[01:08] <Chipzzz> good morning & happy new year
[01:09] <nubcake> Thanks, happy new year to you too Chipzzz
[01:09] <oneofmany> does anyone know if it costs more to build a server than it does a regular computer, i know this depends on specs and such, but any general trend between costings?
[01:09] <kingdavid63> awesome have to check into that... im learnin how to develop for android and this is suppose to be the best OS to do it.. so here it begins...
[01:09] <witedsexe> duno if this is a good place to be asking but im trying to set up a small irc server for comunication with myfriends one using things like hamachi for connection
[01:09] <Chipzzz> kingdavid63: best of luck with your devel efforts
[01:09] <kingdavid63> thanks bro... liking this so far...
[01:09] <herman_> if you just do that any normal pc will do
[01:10] <Zeraphin> @oneofmany any computer can be a server
[01:10] <oneofmany> oh ok
[01:10] <oneofmany> could i build a high performance computer with server capability too?
[01:10] <Zeraphin> the only difference between a 'server' and a regular computer is that a 'server' usually never turns off.
[01:10] <herman_> always
[01:10] <Zeraphin> most def.
[01:10] <oneofmany> oh i see
[01:10] <nubcake> i'm getting an error when trying to install sun-java6-jdk, saying: Package sun-java6-jdk is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, or obsolete or is only avail. from another source. E: Package sun-java6-jdk has no installation candidate.   any ideas how to get that package installed ?
[01:10] <oneofmany> what makes a computer a good server?
[01:11] <nubcake> depends what it's going to serve i guess
[01:11] <oneofmany> will this be good CPU or GPU or other components?
[01:11] <celthunder> Zeraphin: isn't the difference a server serves something
[01:11] <Zeraphin> depends on what you want to do with it
[01:11] <herman_> try open-java
[01:11] <oneofmany> host a website
[01:11] <nubcake> herman_: thanks will try
[01:11] <Zeraphin> you can run a website from just about anything.
[01:11] <nubcake> herman_: says unable to locate open-java
[01:11] <texnet> @oneofmany - most all can be a good server so long as you don't overload the CPU with services, and there is a good admin
[01:12] <Chipzzz> oneofmany: big memory & disk space with little emphasis (if any at all) on graphics are characteristic of servers
[01:12] <oneofmany> ideally id like to host a site that can handle the postings of at least a few tens of users, a chatroom feature would be ideal too but i guess this can be done on irc too
[01:12] <oneofmany> ok so disk space is soemthing to invest heavily in yes
[01:12] <Zeraphin> depending on how graphic you want the whole thing to be you don't need much of a machine.
[01:12] <herman_> a server is nothing more than a strong pc, and if it goes in a rack it's flat, 19" and redundant :-)
[01:12] <texnet> Look beyond the server - what is your internet connection as this will be the pipe to the world
[01:13] <Zeraphin> net connection is a major issue also.
[01:13] <texnet> disk space and RAM!
[01:13] <oneofmany> yes this i have been told
[01:13] <oneofmany> oh RAm yes that too
[01:13] <richtroye> I'm getting forwarder on my workspace problem.  Can someone tell me where the info behind the ocelot "Workspaces" icon is?
[01:13] <Chipzzz> oneofmany: for the price of hosting, you'd probably be better off letting someone else do it for you
[01:13] <dagerik> What is the name that identifies mounted partitions in e.g. nautilus, called?
[01:13] <oneofmany> well right now we can get 100mbps in the uk, but in the next few years im hoping 1gbps badnwith will be available
[01:14] <witedsexe> so any one on here who can help me understand how to set up a simple irc server?
[01:14] <Zeraphin> yea, its cheap enough to have someone else host these days plus with that you don't have the hassle if anything happens to the site.
[01:14] <oneofmany> also heard this too chipzzz, at a data centre yes
[01:14] <herman_> google?
[01:14] <oneofmany> ok will look into that too
[01:14] <oneofmany> i still like the idea of havign a server tho ;)
[01:14] <texnet> I have a Dell 745 VMWare 4.1x with 16GB RAM & 2 TB disk space hosting 3 UB Servers, 1 W2011 Server with Exchange and another virtual for my accounting.  It does fine.  Internet is Comcast Business Class w/ 5 static ip's.
[01:15] <Zeraphin> yea, it's a cool idea.
[01:15] <herman_> I use Xen :)
[01:15] <Chipzzz> oneofmany: last time I checked WebHostingWorld.net, for example was only $12/year for practically unlimited resources
[01:15] <oneofmany> is ubuntu server good for this sort of thing, i assume it is free software yes?
[01:16] <oneofmany> wow thats amazing
[01:16] <herman_> Ubuntu is good for anything
[01:16] <Zeraphin> damn straight!
[01:16] <iShaman> except servers
[01:16] <Zeraphin> lol
[01:16] <oneofmany> really ishaman?
[01:16] <iShaman> Yes really oneofmany
[01:16] <texnet> @oneofmany - Why setup a personal IRC server. Find one that allows you to register a channel, put a join-password on it and let someone else do the administration.
[01:16] <oneofmany> i saw on wiki that there is dedicated software for servers by ubuntu, called ubuntu server
[01:17] <iShaman> oneofmany: It has not been built from the ground for servers
[01:17] <Chipzzz> I've been running servers in virtualbox on Ubuntu machines for years... I think it's great
[01:17] <herman_> my boss, who uses Citrix for our cloud, did not even know that the whole damn thing was running on Linux
[01:17] <kingdavid63> yea there's alot on there site about the server side of ubuntu
[01:17] <oneofmany> okay
[01:17] <iShaman> It does not provide good enough kernel security patches
[01:17] <oneofmany> is there another variant of linux better for servers or other opensource?
[01:18] <herman_> you can use debian as well, my web runs on Lenny
[01:18] <iceroot> oneofmany: debian, also see #debian
[01:18] <iShaman> centos would be better
[01:18] <iShaman> rhel
[01:18] <iShaman> Etc
[01:18] <Chipzzz> many of the commercial hosts are using centos
[01:18] <oneofmany> okay
[01:18] <texnet> Redhat is one of the tops as well, centos is good, as well as maybe FreeBSD
[01:18] <iShaman> Well, BSD is not linux anymore
[01:18] <Zeraphin> i freaking hate FreeBSD...
[01:18] <herman_> Debian lenny, that is :-)
[01:19] <iShaman> But freeBSD/openBSD would be best *nix for servers
[01:19] <dr_willis> Err.. BSD was never linux..
[01:19] <Chipzzz> i think amazon runs ubuntu servers in their cloud, though, don't they?
[01:19] <texnet> No it is not, but is an alternative - I never used BSD personally LOL
[01:19] <iShaman> dr_willis: wat
[01:19] <iShaman> Oh
[01:19] <iShaman> sorry
[01:19] <iShaman> 5 am here
[01:19] <iceroot> herman_: lenny has EOL in 1.5 month, so its not a good idea to install something with lenny
[01:19] <iShaman> disregard the anymore
[01:19] <Zeraphin> BSD sucks so much. Use Redhard
[01:19] <herman_> 2:19 over here
[01:19] <Zeraphin> Redhat mer
[01:19] <oneofmany> 01:19 here
[01:19] <iShaman> What's wrong with BSD?
[01:19] <iceroot> Chipzzz: yes they do
[01:20] <herman_> German lt
[01:20] <slakcphil> FreeBSD is sweet, i love the ports, and pcbsd 9 is going to have the pbi run with the shell and the qt on top, so if they get that in fbsd9 with usb 3.0 working better than linux, i will love it
[01:20] <Chipzzz> that seems a pretty good recommendation for ubuntu :)
[01:20] <texnet> Well, whatever the decision, and if it is Ubuntu - do not install the current server, always get the LTS release so you have long term support
[01:20] <oneofmany> so can all linux software be 64 bit?
[01:20] <herman_> and less bugs
[01:20] <texnet> no, 32 and 64 bit editions ar there
[01:20] <iceroot> oneofmany: every opensource-software, yes
[01:20] <dr_willis> oneofmany:   not all.. but most.
[01:20] <oneofmany> okay great
[01:21] <Zeraphin> FreeBSD and I have a hate/hate relationship. I don't like how the ports and installs work. Personally the whole OS seems backwards.
[01:21] <dr_willis> zsnes for example is 32bit only. because it has some assembly code optimizations i belive.
[01:21] <oneofmany> does that limit to max of 4gb ram dr?
[01:21] <iShaman> BSD's are generally much more secure than linux
[01:21] <slakcphil> yeah well if you install with the ports it is somewhat the same as compiling maually
[01:21] <herman_> Ubuntu's latest is always beta, it seems. I use LTS
[01:21] <iceroot> oneofmany: 32bit, yes
[01:21] <texnet> all my ub servers are 10.04 LTS 64-bit - not a problem, even with updates and dist upgrades
[01:21] <slakcphil> so it can take forever, but the pbi's are sweet
[01:21] <dr_willis> oneofmany:  ram max is not really a limit of the program.. but the os. and a 32bit pae kernel can handle more then 4gb of ram.
[01:22] <iceroot> !info zsnes
[01:22] <dr_willis> oneofmany:  these days. if you got 64bit hardware. use 64bit os.
[01:22] <slakcphil> and pcbsd has come a long way, and with ixsystems behing freenas, i think it will stay strong
[01:22] <witedsexe> i can see im not going to get any help here at the moment thanks any ways
[01:22] <Zeraphin> yes BSD is usually more secure. the problem with that is because it's so secure you've gotta go through and open stuff otherwise it wont work. lol
[01:22] <iShaman> texnet: no problems until someone manages to exploit your webapp and easily gets root with a public local exploit?
[01:22] <oneofmany> 64 bit is pretty revolutionary then really since it opens up the useable RAM so vastly, i was amazed when i read this and to realise i was alive durin this mass commercial development
[01:22] <slakcphil> :)
[01:22] <texnet> @wit - did we miss your question?
[01:22] <dr_willis> oneofmany:  i rember going from 8 bit to 16 :)
[01:22] <iShaman> Zeraphin: freebsd and openbsd are both designed for servers
[01:22] <iceroot> !ot
[01:23] <herman_> got a one bit lightbulb here :-)
[01:23] <oneofmany> hehe, i used to use windows 95, oh and some acorn computers at school, not sure what they were
[01:23] <Chipzzz> dr_willis: we must be contemporaries :)
[01:23] <Zeraphin> I understand that. i just personally don't use them.
[01:23] <slakcphil> yes, and it can be like slippery ice in the enterprise if the engineer is only accustomed to linux distro' s that are off on their own style so heavy that they seem foreign ehem redhat/debian...
[01:24] <slakcphil> sorry for ot
[01:24] <herman_> anybody remembers SLIP and trumpet winsock to go online?
[01:25] <Chipzzz> herman_: lol...dimly
[01:25] <slakcphil> no i was dosing aol account and sharing warez when i was 12
[01:26] <iShaman> slakcphil: criminal scum
[01:26] <Chipzzz> lol
[01:26] <slakcphil> :)
[01:26] <dr_willis> Dont make me feel old..
[01:26] <herman_> aol .. hmm, i used those cd's to put under a glass of beer
[01:26] <slakcphil> remember those things you could send like 400 im's and they were all virus' too lol
[01:26] <iShaman> I was hacking the gibson and DDoSing arpanet when I was 10
[01:26] <slakcphil> :)
[01:27] <slakcphil> iShaman, with angelina jolie?
[01:27] <oneofmany> does anyone know if successive die shrinks down to 10-11nm for GPU chips will dramatically increase FLOP rate per chip?
[01:27] <slakcphil> techno-weenies
[01:27] <Oer> this channel is logged
[01:27] <iShaman> slakcphil: No, girls hated me
[01:27] <slakcphil> :)
[01:27] <vouth> Hi again folks :-) I was wondering, is there a way to copy (dd or something) a raw ISO image (specifically a live DVD) into unallocated space at the beginning of a drive, and then boot from it?
[01:27] <herman_> in thise days I downloaded a copy of photoshop over a phoneline. Could have bought it instead paying the phone corp :-)
[01:27] <dr_willis> vouth:  i THINK that you can do that with a ubuntu 11.10+ iso images.
[01:28] <dr_willis> vouth:  you can dd them to usb flash.. so im not sure why it wouldent work with a real hard drive. (waste a lot of space)
[01:28] <vouth> herman_, I bet buying it would be cheaper :-D
[01:28] <herman_> it was :-)
[01:28] <dr_willis> vouth:  or you can set up grub2 on the hd. and boot the iso file.
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> +1 for boot iso in grub
[01:28] <iShaman> dr_willis: I have a 8GB HDD on my desk
[01:28] <herman_> on usb? lol
[01:29] <dr_willis> i set up a large /boot/ and keep a few ISO images in it for 'emergancy' boot items.
[01:29] <dr_willis> or make a multi-iso usb to boot differnt iso images.
[01:29] <dr_willis> grub2 is handy for that.
[01:29] <dr_willis> the Pendrivelinux web site has some tools to help automate this.
[01:29] <slakcphil> i have a 3.7gb quantum bigfoot :)
[01:29] <slakcphil> it ran sidux up until recently
[01:29] <herman_> my first pc was a Wang with IBM-DOS. The floppy's where 12 inch and the whole thing weight over 50 kg
[01:30] <dagerik> I made a usb startup disk for installing ubuntu. But each time I try to boot into it, I get bounced into the grub menu. How can I properly boot in the usb?
[01:30] <slakcphil> mine was a commodore 64, i would play games, had the flight sim
[01:30] <oneofmany> omg commodore 64 was a nightmare for load time
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> spectrum here
[01:31]  * dr_willis still has a Timex Sinclare.
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> and msx 64k toshiba, great days
[01:31] <oneofmany> it did used to play some cool music though and have brightly coloured tripped out images whilst loading
[01:31] <herman_> I used to have a VIC20, and a euh .. forgot
[01:31] <vouth> dr_willis: I can't figure out how to boot from the flash drive. Nor can I figure out how to boot from the ISO using grub (tried both). I have 2 drives and I'm going to use one to install onto the other, then format the one I used for installation. The DVD is Linux Mint 12 (because it has a feature called "MATE" that supposedly will let me keep using my old gnome2 config with GTK3 — Ubuntu Maverick is getting too out of date for me, and
[01:31] <vouth> I'm too lazy to want to try to learn Unity/Gnome Shell/Enlightenment/The Renowned Insert Window Manager Here). :-D
[01:31] <Chipzzz> TI99-4?
[01:31] <herman_> no, someting else
[01:31] <vouth> dr_willis: Mint 12 is based on 11.10, so probably it would work fine :-)
[01:31] <dr_willis> vouth:  theres grub2 guides onit all over theinternetz. i got some older ones bookmarked at my http://delicious.com/dr_willis site
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> vouth: mate is a fork of gnome2, its unofficial
[01:31] <oneofmany> do you think they will start teaching children computer programming early in schools?
[01:32] <herman_> still have a P2000 MSX
[01:32] <dr_willis> victorvector:  mate is also the kind of project that could vanish overnight.
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> vouth: mint is also not supported here
[01:32] <oneofmany> i think it would be a good idea, we all get too lazy to learn things when we get older
[01:32] <vouth> ActionParsnip: well when I've got about 20 ppas installed and my cursor runs around the screen like it's scared I figure it's time for an upgrade :-)
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> vouth: tried xcfe or lxde?
[01:32] <vouth> ActionParsnip: Well, I'm probably going to switch back to plain Ubuntu at some point.
[01:32] <slakcphil> oneofmany, i think so too, i think there is a python initiative for that
[01:33] <oneofmany> thansk for the tips guys, ill return when im less noob
[01:33] <herman_> ZX-80 :-)
[01:33] <oneofmany> oh cool,
[01:33] <herman_> or Z-80
[01:33] <herman_> forgot
[01:33] <frigid> hi everyone!
[01:33] <oneofmany> yes i learnt python at uni a bit, is a good starter
[01:33] <oneofmany> seeya all
[01:33] <offgridosops> ubuntu 11.10:  trying to set up ubuntu mobile broadband.  asks for number, username and password however verizon says i dont have anything except a number.  any help would be great
[01:33] <vouth> ActionParsnip, I bet Mint has an IRC channel too :-) I did try lxde (in Lubuntu) but I couldn't get compiz working. I have not tried xfce (since I was using Fedora Core 1); maybe that would work well.
[01:34] <dr_willis> You normally DONT use compiz in lxde...
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> vouth: it does have it's own channel
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: you can, its not tricky to setup, just replaces openbox
[01:34] <dr_willis> thats sort of like trying to put fancy hubcaps and spoilers/airdams on a Yugo. :)
[01:34] <vouth> dr_willis: I did find a tutorial on booting  from an iso by editing /boot/grub/menu.lst (or something like that) at a blog (targeted at 8.10 installers) but the menu item never appeared. :-(
[01:34] <slakcphil> :)
[01:35] <dr_willis> vouth:  menu.lst is the old grub1... grub2 is needed to boot ISO files.
[01:35] <vouth> dr_willis, If I had a Yugo I sure as heck *would* do that :-D
[01:35] <vouth> dr_willis: Ah, I'm using Grub 1.98+2010blahblahblah.
[01:35] <dr_willis> vouth:  tats grub2 then.
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U42A3WVpMUw
[01:36] <vouth> dr_willis: Oh, ok, I didn't know Grub 2's version number started with a 1 :-P
[01:36] <dr_willis> those wacky grub devs
[01:36] <vouth> dr_willis, ok, probably I just didn't put it in the right file then.
[01:36] <dr_willis> !info grub-pc
[01:36] <vouth> dr_willis: huh, weird.
[01:37] <vouth> Well, it's got to be possible. If it isn't I just created that 1.3g of empty space for nothing :-)
[01:38] <dr_willis> It is possible.. I do it all the time.
[01:38] <dr_willis> havent really needed it lately. so i dont have my  /etc/grub.d/40_custom handy
[01:38] <dr_willis> the old guids i used ages ago are bookmarked at my delicious.com/dr_willis  links
[01:38] <vouth> dr_willis: well I meant not the ISO boot but copying to an unallocated partition :-)
[01:39] <vouth> dr_willis: What do the GUIDs in GRUB mean anyway?
[01:39] <dr_willis> vouth:  dd for ubuntu images for 11.10+ works
[01:39] <dr_willis> !guid
[01:39] <dr_willis> !uuid
[01:40] <texnet> Those using UBServer 10.04 - how many use the GUI opposed simple telnet/cld?
[01:40] <dr_willis> telnet? :) ssh...
[01:40] <dr_willis> I ssh to my main linux box 99% of the time these days
[01:40] <texnet> yes - ssh. sorry, my age is showing.  I prefer ssh opposed any gui
[01:41] <iShaman> Its 2011 and people still use GUIs?
[01:41] <dr_willis> iShaman:  its 2012 :)
[01:41] <vouth> dr_willis, So they would probably be different on every machine. I can't look at the link right now (Chromium's freezing whenever I try to open it, no idea why but it might have something to do with being on a live DVD that's doing some CPU-intensive disk operations)
[01:41] <iShaman> oh damn
[01:41] <iShaman> I forgot
[01:41] <iShaman> D:
[01:41] <Zeraphing> lol
[01:41] <dr_willis> vouth:  UUID's are differnt for every filesystem on a system.. yes..
[01:42] <texnet> I've always used telnet/ssh since the mid 90's LOL
[01:42] <texnet> easier in my opinion
[01:42] <vouth> dr_willis, since the images are mint 12 (basically Ubuntu 11.10 afaik) dd will probably work. I'll do that :-) Thank goodness I have a Super GRUB disk to help me boot it though, since I wouldn't know how to configure it properly :-)
[01:43] <Yariv> hey people, I tried to download the 12.04 developers preview, and tried to install it on a laptop and another machine using VirtualBox and both of them have the same problem. Once booted up it gives me kernel panic and freeze.
[01:43] <Guest91676> hi
[01:43] <dr_willis> vouth:  the pendrivelinux site has tools to set up grub2 booting iso file - setups.
[01:43] <DmstrDJ> i prefer unetbootin to load any image to usb
[01:43] <dr_willis> Yariv:  try the #ubuntu+1 channel.
[01:43] <dr_willis> unetbootin has some limititions. :)
[01:44] <vouth> dr_willis: cool, thanks.
[01:44] <DmstrDJ> the new version has a persistence option to save back to the pendrive itself but thats with ubuntu only
[01:44] <DmstrDJ> true but for most users its fine
[01:45] <Zeraphing> Anyone here have experience with Nagios?
[01:46] <vouth> Zeraphing: If you mean nachos (tortilla chips with cheese), I have some :-D
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> Zeraphing: I've used HP Open View
[01:46] <Zeraphing> Whats HP Open View?
[01:47] <ubuntuaddicted> anyone know if airprint exists in ubuntu yet?
[01:47] <dr_willis> whats Airprint?
[01:47] <ubuntuaddicted> or anything similar like HP E-Print that they currently use in FedEx print and ship locations
[01:47] <ubuntuaddicted> allows you to print wirelessly
[01:48] <ubuntuaddicted> well, let me clarigy. airprint in an apple technology to print over the air from an iDevice
[01:48] <ubuntuaddicted> clarify
[01:48] <dr_willis> googles chrome has some sort of networked over the internets printing feature. :) but i just toyed wth it one day.
[01:48] <vouth> what is an idevice?
[01:48] <dr_willis> No idea on apple stuff however.
[01:48] <ubuntuaddicted> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AirPrint
[01:48] <dr_willis> iSTUFF :)
[01:48] <ubuntuaddicted> im asking if I can print wirelessly from ubuntu to any wifi printer on the market currently
[01:49] <ubuntuaddicted> sorry
[01:49] <ubuntuaddicted> :-)
[01:49] <dr_willis> ubuntuaddicted:  my brother wireless printer works fine.
[01:49] <vouth> ubuntuaddicted, if it's based on afp (apple file protocol) I know that's available
[01:49] <dr_willis> I highly reccomend brother brand.
[01:49] <ubuntuaddicted> no HP?
[01:50] <ubuntuaddicted> i have a lexmark now and I hate that I have to print to pdf, then open my VM and print it
[01:50] <vouth> dr_willis, you mean like eyeGLASSEs? eyeBALLs? eyeCONs? eyeBROWs? :-D
[01:50] <ubuntuaddicted> from windows 7 or XP
[01:50]  * dr_willis pokes vouth  in the iEye
[01:50] <vouth> dr_willis, let me guess, you actually mean all of Apple's stuff like Ipods, Iworks, Ilife, etc :-D
[01:50]  * vouth screams in pain
[01:50] <vouth> :-D
[01:50] <dr_willis> You mean paIn
[01:51] <vouth> lol, yup
[01:51] <rypervenche> I bet they'll come out with iDeath soon enough
[01:51] <ubuntuaddicted> I see airprint can be added to cups. AirPrint support can be added to an existing CUPS Server with DNS based Service Discovery
[01:51] <vouth> sorreye :-D
[01:52] <vouth> well they already came out with iCorporateAmorality when they landfilled all those Lisas. I'm STILL PO'd about that
[01:52] <vouth> ubuntuaddicted, well, there's your answer :-)
[01:54] <dagerik> I am having trouble booting into a usb disk, which I have used usb startup disk creator on. It will not boot, even though dfisk says it is bootable. Any tips?
[01:54] <texnet> Dager-perhaps your computer does not support boot from usb?
[01:55] <slakcphil> maybe you could unplug the sata cables first, or ide
[01:55] <cryptopsy> is this a good place to get support for ubuntu:satanic edition?
[01:55] <cryptopsy> i'm having resize issues with one of the backgrounds
[01:55] <vouth> dagerik, I just had that same problem. I was kindly referred to a website called Pendrive Linux by dr_willis
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> dagerik: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[01:55] <slakcphil> cryptopsy, cool really?
[01:55] <cryptopsy> yes
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> cryptopsy: its not supported here
[01:56] <cryptopsy> ActionParsnip: how come? its the same ubuntu but with a theme set
[01:56] <dagerik> ActionParsnip: No, will do that now.
[01:56] <slakcphil> so if your satanic, you still believe in god?
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> slakcphil: yes its ubuntu with a different theme
[01:56] <slakcphil> and jesus
[01:56] <vouth> let me guess, "satanic" edition is a joke?
[01:56] <cryptopsy> no, it's real
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> cryptopsy: onl canonical releases are supported here
[01:56] <dr_willis> vouth:  a poor joke for a disrto. actually.
[01:56] <cryptopsy> ActionParsnip: it's a canonical release with a theme set
[01:56] <slakcphil> and the whole dinosaur's never were
[01:56] <vouth> cryptopsy: wow. the world gets weirder every day
[01:56] <vouth> :-D
[01:56] <dr_willis> cryptopsy:  its still not supported here.
[01:56] <cryptopsy> vouth: ironically the christian and islamic editions were not banned from distrowatch
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> cryptopsy: none of the spinoff distros based on Ubuntu are supported here
[01:57] <cryptopsy> dr_willis: i know, but i was wondering about a non-theme-set related issue, so its in a way the same thing
[01:57] <vouth> cryptopsy, why would a distro be banned? that's weird. it's still a distro
[01:57] <cryptopsy> vouth: various reasons
[01:57] <slakcphil> yeah man, you now you can't come here and ask for support on a derivative
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> vouth: only canonical releases are supported here, none of the spinoff distros are supported here
[01:57] <slakcphil> flat out
[01:57] <dr_willis> its not 'banned' disrtowatch i recall posted why they found it not worth listing - ages ages agoo.
[01:57] <cryptopsy> the discussion *might* still be up if you're interested on the distrowatch page, but its too lenghty to get into detail here
[01:57] <slakcphil> you have to lie! that should seem easy to you
[01:58] <cryptopsy> dr_willis: distrowatch offers a listing, if its not listed, it's banned
[01:58] <cryptopsy> there are only two states; listed and non-listed
[01:58] <dr_willis> cryptopsy:  your definition of 'banned' is .. odd...
[01:58] <vouth> ActionParsnip, um, I'm not the one asking for support. That's cryptopsy. I was asking why distrowatch bans some distros.
[01:58] <vouth> cryptopsy: it sounds like it was'nt banned but just omitted.
[01:58] <cryptopsy> dr_willis: it's banned because christian ubuntu and the islamic ubuntu are the same thing, satanic edition was a joke response against those distros
[01:58] <dagerik> ActionParsnip: Yep, md5sum matches
[01:59] <cryptopsy> vouth: that's like saying if someone gets banned from a channel they were omitted
[01:59] <dr_willis> but its all ot.. which is one of the reasons this channel sticks to a very strict 'ubuntu supported only' mindset.
[01:59] <cryptopsy> partially true, but incorrect
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> dagerik: remember to md5 test before using the files next time ;)
[01:59] <cryptopsy> dr_willis: i was the first one to say it's ot btw
[01:59] <dr_willis> ranks up there with the "Hanna Montanna Ubuntu" variant..
[01:59] <thiebaude> strict lol not tonight
[01:59] <vouth> cryptopsy: hmm, I think of banned (like in irc) they were kicked out or not omitted due to the violation of certain criteria, while omitted just means no one bothered to put itin.
[02:00] <cryptopsy> dr_willis: no it doesn't, it ranks with christian and muslim ubuntu
[02:00] <cryptopsy> it is not a bieber or hannah whatever type distro
[02:00] <vouth> dr_willis, wow, I need to get that.
[02:00] <dr_willis> No it does not.
[02:00] <dr_willis> vouth:  :)
[02:00] <cryptopsy> dr_willis: how is islamic ubuntu any different
[02:00]  * dr_willis goes back to actual support questions
[02:00] <cryptopsy> satanic ubuntu has its own stupid apps
[02:02] <vouth> cryptopsy, are the users of satanic ubuntu actually satanists, or are they just looking for a laugh?
[02:02] <ActionParsnip> cryptopsy: seems to be #Satanic on IRC network 'EuropeIRC' 
[02:02] <slakcphil> cryptopsy, satanist troll, i like evil but not satanists. it is a stupid religion spun-off of another stupid religion, just like the OS you chose
[02:03] <vouth> cryptopsy, if they're just looking for laffs they probably aren't really a parallel to Christian/Islamic distro users because they would choose it seriously
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> slakcphil: its just a satan inspired theme....
[02:03] <slakcphil> ActionParsnip, oh ok then he should just use the OSX theme
[02:03] <slakcphil> :)
[02:04] <vouth> slakcphil: I don't think satanism is serious probably, I always figured it was a joke. Like I don't think there are actually that many people who actually follow it as an organised religion
[02:04] <vouth> slakcphil: wow, burn. :-D
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> slakcphil: same deal
[02:04] <slakcphil> vouth, :) unless, they are in prison :)
[02:05] <vouth> slakcphil: well actually I have no idea. I never asked one :-)
[02:05] <slakcphil> then it's like "hey, why the hell not!"
[02:05] <vouth> lol, yup. Or maybe a satanist would think of it as why the *heaven* not? if they're flipping everything around at any rate :-)
[02:05] <vouth> wow, this is really ot
[02:05] <Yariv> vouth, I'm a satanist, and your words are not really precise... Satanism as a massive religion is not organized. its decentralized.
[02:06] <dagerik> Created a usb startup disk(10.04) with usb-creator, but it will not boot. Tried different pc's There is no bit error because I checked with md5sum. fdisk says it is bootable. Any tips?
[02:06] <cryptopsy> is distrowatch by definition an enemy of the satanic religion, or whatever the case may be?
[02:06] <cryptopsy> i'm in favor of centralisation
[02:06] <cryptopsy> it makes finding things pretty easy
[02:06] <dr_willis> dagerik:  what does it do when yoy try to boot..
[02:06] <vouth> Yariv: hm, interesting. would you pm me with a description of your doctrines/viewpoints?
[02:06] <urlin2u> dagerik, try unetbootin
[02:06] <Yariv> sure.
[02:06] <dagerik> dr_willis: Falls back to grub, as it should.
[02:07] <cryptopsy> too much order can be a band thing though, i agree
[02:07] <vouth> cryptopsy, there's a difference between centralised servers and centralised religion :_D
[02:07] <slakcphil> hey satan boy, just leave, then come back in 5 and lie(not that hard, you already belive in satan) then ask you question, hell you don't even have to lie, just ask the question
[02:07] <cryptopsy> ask the firefox team how hard it is to fix bugs because everything is in like one giant c file
[02:07] <cryptopsy> vouth: i was referring to the idea of centralisation in general
[02:07] <Yariv> are you talking to me slakcphil ?
[02:07] <cryptopsy> computers are tools for information, kind of like religion
[02:07] <Kiten> Really OT in here huh
[02:07] <slakcphil> no
[02:08] <slakcphil> cryptopsy, hey satan boy, just leave, then come back in 5 and lie(not that hard, you already belive in satan) then ask you question, hell you don't even have to lie, just ask the question
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> slakcphil: i always get the distro name if I need an output of a command ;)
[02:08] <vouth> cryptopsy, hmm. I think it's good in computing, bad in gov't, can go either way in religion :-)
[02:08] <cryptopsy> hello mr 'slack' phil, please feel free to comment about what you think about order in software means
[02:08] <slakcphil> ActionParsnip, :)
[02:08] <slakcphil> what?
[02:08] <Kiten> cryptopsy: Your last statement holds no Ground
[02:08] <Kiten> Err strike that the previous statement
[02:08] <cryptopsy> Kiten: i'm building up to the concept of turing machines in software architecture, they are intimate related
[02:09] <slakcphil> cryptopsy, if you are satanic, you would like freebsd, no?
[02:09] <cryptopsy> thanks for your proper punctuation though, i kinda of appreciate it, but not relaly
[02:09] <cryptopsy> slakcphil: i'm not satanic
[02:09] <RokcStar> i hold ground in my hand because i can because i am god and the earth is on my hand
[02:09] <cryptopsy> just use the distro that's all ...
[02:09] <Yariv> F.Y.I and just for the record, any satanist that comes up to you and say "Satan is real, I believe in him as a realistic being" is nothing more than a fake.
[02:09] <vouth> cryptopsy, religion (by my definition) is more a way to find spiritual fulfillment than a way to find information
[02:09] <slakcphil> oh ok let's break the rules and you ask your q
[02:09] <cryptopsy> i don't think anyone believes in satan like that
[02:09] <diamonds> I'm using gparted to make space for win7, and I have just one big device/partition
[02:09] <RokcStar> satan is my homeboy
[02:09] <RokcStar> him an i go way back
[02:10] <Kiten> !topic
[02:10] <diamonds> what should I know about splitting a partitin off my boot partition?
[02:10] <cryptopsy> slakcphil: i'm actually not breaking a rule, entropy in computing is a pretty big deal
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> diamonds: you'll need to do it in liveCD
[02:10] <cryptopsy> i didn't bring up satanism as a religion either, mind you
[02:10] <diamonds> ActionParsnip: ok I kinda figured the OS wouldn't want me to break up it's boot partition while it's running :p
[02:10] <RokcStar> i think gparted will help you split partitions
[02:11] <Kiten> Religion and computers are two different things and we have users that need actual help
[02:11] <cryptopsy> Kiten: will you please just mind your own business? we weren't talking about religion at all
[02:11] <ActionParsnip> diamonds: it won't as the partition will need to be unmounted
[02:11] <RokcStar> computers are a religion to me
[02:11] <diamonds> what's a good small distro just to run gparted from a USB?
[02:11] <RokcStar> slax
[02:11] <ActionParsnip> diamonds: the ubuntu install CD has it
[02:11] <RokcStar> google it
[02:11] <cryptopsy> someone thought we were talking about religion and i pointed out that the only similarity is the concept of order, which is a computing subject
[02:11] <Oer> cryptopsy, please stop it.
[02:11] <diamonds> ActionParsnip: yeah I don't have one on hand and I only have DVDRs :/
[02:12] <RokcStar> slax has a usb version and you can easily load gparted
[02:12] <diamonds> I suppose I can use one of those
[02:12] <Kiten> Diamonds if you need gparted they have a live cd you can use
[02:12] <pythonirc101> did someone hack my machine -- I am not in the suders list anymore -- ?
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> diamonds: then grab ubuntu live DVD ISO and burn it (slowly) after MD5 testing
[02:12] <diamonds> Kiten: yeah I just don't have a live CD :) I'll make a DVD, I assume tha'ts possible
[02:13] <diamonds> ty
[02:13] <Kiten> diamonds: Yeah thats possible heh
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> pythonirc101: boot to root recobery mode and run:  usermod -a -G admin username
[02:13] <RokcStar> why would you need to hash test it...if it boots and runs then it worked if it didnt then burn another cd and if u run at slow speed to get ur cd writer to write better: buy better cd's or a new burner :D
[02:13] <dagerik> urlin2u: Thanks, I am no going to try unetbootin :)
[02:13] <Kiten> diamonds: You can use unetbootin to make a usb version if you need
[02:13] <pythonirc101> ActionParsnip: how do I boot to recovery mode? This is a VPS -- a remote machine
[02:13] <vouth> cryptopsy, try #ubuntu-ot
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> RokcStar: user is downloading a new ISO, so it will nee dchecking..
[02:14] <cryptopsy> vouth: not really interested in OT chat
[02:14] <RokcStar> oh right good point
[02:14] <cryptopsy> vouth: i think i got the channel right the first time i joined ;)
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> pythonirc101: hold shift at boot you can select recovery mode then select root
[02:14] <pythonirc101> ActionParsnip: this is a vps, a remote machine...i only connect to it using ssh
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> pythonirc101: sounds like you need a smarthands request then
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> RokcStar: writing slowly can help with bootable medias too
[02:15] <RokcStar> oh ok. but ilike it fast.
[02:15] <vouth> cryptopsy, well the talk so far has been mostly ot. If you want help with ubuntu, ask away. If you want to talk religion/politics/non-Ubuntu computing try the other channel
[02:16] <cryptopsy> vouth: oh i have already
[02:16] <cryptopsy> just reading what others are typing right now
[02:16] <itsnotabigtruck> endless whining about offtopicness is way worse than actual offtopicness, eeeesh
[02:16] <cryptopsy> vouth: are you interested in volleyball? i'm just taking a guess, because you seem interested in religion/politics/non-Ubuntu, and it falls under the same category
[02:17] <RokcStar> .... can someone kick crypto i cant focus on actualy ubuntu stuff
[02:17] <itsnotabigtruck> that's ^ cryptopsy vouth kiten etc.
[02:17] <diamonds> how do I find the location of an attached usb drive?
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> RokcStar: it saves about 20 seconds of real time, burning slow puts a better image on the disk surface
[02:17] <cryptopsy> RokcStar: the last distro i used before ubuntu was slax, it seems dead
[02:17] <vouth> cryptopsy: for goodness sake ask your question again or go away
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> diamonds: run:   mount
[02:18] <vouth> sorry to be blunt but seriously
[02:18] <cryptopsy> vouth: it doesn't have a solution, since it is no longer supported
[02:18] <diamonds> I see it in /dev/bus/usb/001/001
[02:18] <cryptopsy> vouth: you can scroll up you know
[02:18] <cryptopsy> i don't want to flood the channel by repeating myself
[02:18] <diamonds> oh ok so /dev/sdc is the appropriate way to access it
[02:18] <texnet> <says it is first night I joined the channel to try and help some, but do not see much on Ubuntu support itself.  Maybe it's just a bad night LOL
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> diamonds: no, you will need to mount it to get access
[02:19] <cryptopsy> texnet: it's the holidays, maybe people are with their families
[02:19] <diamonds> oh ok it's on /media/foo
[02:19] <cryptopsy> at least in america
[02:19] <diamonds> ty
[02:19] <cryptopsy> i don't know if chinese celebrate, but in america christmas falls close to new year, so it connects into one big weekend
[02:19] <RokcStar> has anyone ever been able to run WINE on ubuntu server and run an application using wine ...
[02:19] <texnet> Crypt: True - My family celebrations are over LOL
[02:20] <RokcStar> or would you need a desktop interface to run wine installations and/or the applications themselves
[02:20] <vouth> cryptopsy, I did. The only thing I saw that looked like a question was: "i'm having resize issues with one of the backgrounds", and that isn't nearly enough detail about your problem to help someone help you.
[02:20] <cryptopsy> vouth: you didn't seem interested at the time
[02:20] <Retistic> i'm new to linux, can someone give me a hand installing postgres on oneiric?
[02:20] <dr_willis> RokcStar: you could always have it run in a vnc session
[02:20] <cryptopsy> vouth: on the other hand i got like 5 peple telling me it isnt supported
[02:20] <slakcphil> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFJMcAB5SFU        sweet movie!
[02:20] <cryptopsy> so i didn't bother to outline the specifics
[02:20] <slakcphil> for real
[02:21] <texnet> ....and my wife has a new Kindle, and has not let it out of her hands for more than 5 minutes....I feel neglected.
[02:21] <iceroot> Retistic: sudo apt-get install postgresql
[02:21] <vouth> cryptopsy, I'm telling how to get other people to answer you.
[02:21] <vouth> I have no idea.
[02:21] <RokcStar> but with vnc...wouldnt you need to have a desktop running...that wouldnt make sense...wait..are you saying that i can install vnc on ubuntu server (no gui) and vnc to the command line?
[02:21] <metasansana> texnet: which kindle?
[02:21] <cryptopsy> have people figured out how to run linux software on kindle yet?
[02:21] <RokcStar> that seems insecure...
[02:21] <slakcphil> texnet, i got my wife a fire and it is great, she stopped complaining about me on the comp
[02:21] <iceroot> Retistic: please use ssh instead of vnc to access the commandline
[02:21] <texnet> I got her the Kindle Fire for xmas
[02:21] <iceroot> Retistic: sorry wrong nick
[02:22] <dr_willis> RokcStar:  if the wine app has some sort of gui. you need some sort of place for it to display to.
[02:22] <iceroot> RokcStar: please use ssh instead of vnc to access the commandline
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> RokcStar: vnc has no security, so yes it'd be unsecure
[02:22] <iceroot> !ssh | RokcStar
[02:22] <RokcStar> willis ur absolutely right
[02:22] <dr_willis> RokcStar:  so vnc, freenx, or ssh X forwarding
[02:22] <texnet> Yeah, here too Slakcphil
[02:22] <Retistic> any ideas? sudo apt-get install postgresql           E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:22] <iceroot> cryptopsy: offtopic here and btw the kindle is running linux, so everything on the kindle is linux-software
[02:23] <cryptopsy> christ, you're still talking about OT ?
[02:23] <metasansana> maybe i should get my gf a fire then
[02:23] <pythonirc101> ActionParsnip: How does one boot as root in ubuntu?
[02:23] <iceroot> Retistic: seems you have a nother process open like the software-ce4nter
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> cryptopsy: kindle uses an ARM-11 CPU so should be ok
[02:23] <cryptopsy> if it doesn't have a hardware level cryptokey
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> pythonirc101: hold shift at boot, select recovery mode, select root
[02:23] <texnet> well, in a week or so, I'll hack it to run my own apps LOL
[02:24] <RokcStar> perhaps the only way to run a windows program within wine in a ubuntu server would be to launch the desktop when needed and configure...or..hmmm.
[02:24] <Retistic> iceroot: thank you so much
[02:24] <iceroot> RokcStar: why running windows-software on a linux-server?
[02:24] <cryptopsy> iceroot: some windows apps offer advantages that linux doesn't have
[02:24] <RokcStar> because im a windows user and i programmed it and now im to lazy to write it for linux
[02:24] <iceroot> cryptopsy: and what on an server?
[02:25] <cryptopsy> on whatever they want
[02:25] <texnet> RockStar, setup Ubuntu as a Virtual Server and serve Windows machines as Virtuals :)
[02:25] <metasansana> lulz
[02:25] <cryptopsy> is it illegal?
[02:25] <metasansana> does your program need a gui?
[02:25] <oneliner> my ethernet is beyond unstable
[02:25] <cryptopsy> i think so, he's having trouble with the display
[02:25] <iceroot> cryptopsy: just strange
[02:25] <iceroot> cryptopsy: even a gui on a server is strange
[02:25] <RokcStar> texnet that sounds really intriguing...
[02:25] <cryptopsy> iceroot: bugs are more strange, and take way longer to deal with
[02:25] <RokcStar> im going to research that
[02:25] <RokcStar> thanks
[02:26] <texnet> Your VS is a host and can serve up many servers, UB, Windows Server, Windows 7 etc.
[02:26] <iceroot> cryptopsy: if i need a server for my windows-programs i would not use linux
[02:26] <iceroot> cryptopsy: and if i need linux-software on a server, of course i would not use a windows-server
[02:27] <iceroot> cryptopsy: so maybe you get what i mean with "strange"
[02:27] <cryptopsy> i don't get what you mean by strange, i'm quite familiar with the concept of 'fanboy'
[02:27] <cryptopsy> i like to be fair and balanced
[02:27] <texnet> ICE - I have a Windows 2011 Server with Virtual Server on it - running Ubuntu and IPCOP LOL
[02:28] <iceroot> texnet: and you run windows-programs on your linux-machine with wine?
[02:28] <texnet> It works, but not as the best I wished it would
[02:28] <metasansana> If its not too intense an application java might be a language you should try
[02:28] <metasansana> just stay away from too many platform specific classes
[02:28] <trb> hi
[02:28] <texnet> ice - No, I use Remote Desktop to run those apps - with SAMBA to share files between the two platforms
[02:28] <trb> can you hear me
[02:29] <cryptopsy> trb: hi
[02:29] <metasansana> hello trb
[02:29] <itsnotabigtruck> cryptopsy: just repeat your question...the person who can answer it might have joined minutes ago
[02:29] <trb> how do I get google video chat to work on my toshiba satalite
[02:29] <cryptopsy> itsnotabigtruck: that doesn't change the fact that it's not supported
[02:29] <trb> it is an intel processor
[02:29] <metasansana> did you install google's plugin?
[02:29] <trb> the google download says its for amd
[02:30] <cryptopsy> itsnotabigtruck: people with good intentions would agree, but the heartless beaurocracy has slammed its cold hard fist
[02:30] <metasansana> amd64?
[02:30] <trb> yes amd 64
[02:30] <cryptopsy> they probably have a release for your architecture
[02:30] <pythonirc101> ActionParser: Any hope of using a vulnerability in ubuntu to get a root shell as a user?
[02:30] <cryptopsy> locate and abuse it
[02:30] <metasansana> if your on a 64bit system I think it should work
[02:30] <trb> it says the download is for amd64 I have a toshiba satalite
[02:31] <metasansana> I had it on core 2 duo sometime back
[02:31] <trb> yes I have ubuntu 11 64 bit
[02:31] <itsnotabigtruck> trb: amd64 = 64-bit os, including intel cpus
[02:31] <metasansana> try installing it see what you get
[02:31] <itsnotabigtruck> it's called that because amd had it first
[02:31] <trb> hmm
[02:31] <metasansana> itsnotabigtruck is right
[02:31] <trb> how to install once I get the download?
[02:31] <cryptopsy> i'm going to slam my girl, peace out
[02:32] <metasansana> I think its a deb file so just launch it with package manager
[02:32] <dr_willis> sudo gdebi foo.deb   (is one way)
[02:32] <iceroot> pythonirc101: if the system is not patched, yes
[02:32] <trb> how to install omce I download?
[02:32] <RokcStar> im trying to update ubuntu using the distro channel
[02:32] <dr_willis> trb   sudo gdebi foo.deb   (is one way)
[02:32] <pythonirc101> If I'm a user on a ubuntu machine, and I know the root password - but don't have access to bootup seq. Any ideas how I can get a root shell?
[02:33] <pythonirc101> iceroot: I patched it one month ago...so anything from last 15 days should work
[02:33] <itsnotabigtruck> pythonirc101: su?
[02:33] <texnet> .....well, my 3 UB Servers are updated and dist-upgraded, with reboots. All is fine, like clockwork - so I am checking out
[02:33] <iceroot> pythonirc101: su or ssh root@host
[02:33] <dr_willis> pythonirc101:  why do you need a root shell at boot?
[02:33] <pythonirc101> itsnotabigtruck: !!!!!
[02:33] <pythonirc101> su worked! wth
[02:33] <trb> this is the folder that downloaded google-talkplugin_current_amd64.deb
[02:33] <pythonirc101> so sudo -I doesn't work but su works!
[02:33] <pythonirc101> what's going on?
[02:33] <trb> what do I do now?
[02:33] <iceroot> pythonirc101: sudo -i is using the userpassword
[02:34] <iceroot> !sudo | pythonirc101
[02:34] <metasansana> trb: just open the deb file
[02:34] <itsnotabigtruck> pythonirc101: sudo requires that you be a 'sudoer' i.e. a user authorized to sudo
[02:34] <itsnotabigtruck> and it asks for your pass, not the root pass
[02:34] <pythonirc101> iceroot: I tried the user password - root password - didn't work
[02:34] <itsnotabigtruck> su uses the root password
[02:34] <iceroot> pythonirc101: if the user is allowed to use sudo (default ubuntu user is) sudo is asking for the userpassword and that will work with that
[02:34] <Retistic> iceroot: how do i do this? You need to install postgresql-server-dev-X.Y for building a server-side extension or libpq-dev for building a client-side application.
[02:35] <trb> ubuntu software center pops up and wont allow me to do anything
[02:35] <iceroot> Retistic: and what of the both you want?
[02:35] <itsnotabigtruck> trb: ok, first, are you on 64-bit ubuntu
[02:35] <itsnotabigtruck> if not, you need to download the 32-bit version
[02:35] <trb> yes I think so
[02:35] <itsnotabigtruck> then from the terminal do sudo dpkg -i blahblah.deb
[02:35] <Retistic> iceroot: sorry, i don't follow
[02:35] <trb> how do I tell
[02:35] <metasansana> he said he has 64bit ubuntu
[02:36] <pythonirc101> k - usermod -a -G admin myusername -- says admin doesn't exist?
[02:36] <iceroot> Retistic: you asked how to install something, i asked what you want to install
[02:36] <itsnotabigtruck> pythonirc101: use sudo instead of admin
[02:36] <Retistic> iceroot: ah it's in the message i got
[02:36] <Retistic> "You need to install postgresql-server-dev-X.Y for building a server-side extension or libpq-dev for building a client-side application."
[02:36] <Retistic> iceroot: oh i get it sorry
[02:36] <iceroot> Retistic: and i asked what of the both you want
[02:36] <pythonirc101> itsnotabigtruck: thanks... - its working now - Saved me $10 today :)
[02:37] <iceroot> Retistic: sudo apt-get install postgresql-server-dev-all   for the first
[02:37] <metasansana> trb: were you prompted for a password?
[02:37] <itsnotabigtruck> pythonirc101: heh, $10 for what?
[02:37] <trb> no
[02:37] <Retistic> iceroot: i think the client side so i can run the code on my laptop right?
[02:37] <iceroot> Retistic: sudo apt-get install libpq-dev   for the second
[02:37] <Retistic> i mean the db
[02:37] <pythonirc101> for asking the VPS people to boot into my box and put me in sudoers
[02:37] <trb> this is the folder that was downloaded google-talkplugin_current_amd64.deb
[02:38] <dagerik> Which flash player should I use? The one from adobe crashes often.
[02:38] <itsnotabigtruck> pythonirc101: ah ok...yeah, definitely try to manage your vps on your own...personally i wouldn't be comfortable with the idea of any support staff messing with my server
[02:38] <iceroot> dagerik: its the only one working on all sites
[02:38] <itsnotabigtruck> dagerik: it's also the only one that's really very usable
[02:38] <trb> when I double click on it the ubuntu software center pops up and says no
[02:38] <iceroot> dagerik: another one is gnash
[02:38] <iceroot> !gnash | dagerik
[02:38] <metasansana> no?
[02:38] <itsnotabigtruck> there's an open source replacement for it, but since adobe controls flash, and it's always changing, flash player will always be one step ahead
[02:38] <itsnotabigtruck> at the very minimum
[02:39] <iceroot> trb: what is the output of "uname -m"?
[02:39] <trb> it says wrong architecture
[02:39] <dagerik> iceroot: Okay thanks
[02:39] <metasansana> thats it
[02:39] <Retistic> iceroot: got it working thanks
[02:39] <trb> wait let me try
[02:39] <iceroot> trb: use the i386 version
[02:39] <itsnotabigtruck> yeah, architecture = i386, amd64, etc.
[02:39] <itsnotabigtruck> so wrong architecture means you got the wrong one
[02:40] <metasansana> trb: you using a 32bit system ie x86
[02:41] <trb> something is working with the i386 one hold on
[02:41] <trb> says installed now let me try it hold on
[02:43] <trb> yes its working now, thanks
[02:43] <metasansana> another satisfied ubuntu user
[02:44] <vanangamudi> recently i installed Clutter libraries
[02:44] <vanangamudi> thro
[02:44] <vanangamudi> synaptic
[02:44] <khoisan> i just installed pinguy os, very nice distribution
[02:44] <vanangamudi> where can i find them
[02:44] <viewtifulsilvia> any readme links for using a jetdirect print server?
[02:44] <khoisan> but grub doesn't see my windows installation anymore
[02:44] <itsnotabigtruck> vanangamudi: are you a programmer? a library is a chunk of code you use from your own code
[02:45] <itsnotabigtruck> not a program you can run directly
[02:45] <itsnotabigtruck> so you can install clutter but there won't be much of anything to see unless you install software that uses clutter
[02:45] <dr_willis> viewtifulsilvia:  i just use the cup  config tools and they either scan and find mine, or i give them the ip#.
[02:45] <vanangamudi> @itsnotabigtruck: thanx but
[02:46] <trb_> you hear me
[02:46] <vanangamudi> to compile the code : gcc program.c -o program `pkg-config --cflags --libs clutter-1.0`
[02:46] <vanangamudi> this statement fails buddy
[02:46] <trb_> I'm back again just to say THANKS!!!
[02:46] <vanangamudi> i have export the directory to environ PATH
[02:46] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, DON'T click on suspicious links, and type « /msg ubottu exploit » if you want more information.
[02:46] <vanangamudi> so wer can i find them..
[02:47] <trb_> The google i386 video chat works
[02:47] <trb_> THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
[02:47] <itsnotabigtruck> vanangamudi: oh ok...did you install the -dev package
[02:47] <vanangamudi> oh yes i did...
[02:48] <itsnotabigtruck> libclutter-1.0-dev, libclutter-gtk-1.0-dev, etc.
[02:48] <trb_> I just downloaded the 32 bit ver then when double clicking on the folder the ubuntu software center poped up and allowed me to install
[02:49] <vanangamudi> the first one i installed
[02:49] <vanangamudi> may be i missed the second
[02:49] <trb_> I'm pretty sure this machine is tubuntu 64 but only the 32bit video chat one worked
[02:50] <metasansana> trb: thats strange
[02:50] <trb_> thanks
[02:50] <trb_> whatever Its working
[02:50] <metasansana> lol
[02:51] <vanangamudi> @itsnotabigtruck: i did  buddy ...installed all  those stuff
[02:51] <trb_> thanks for the help !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  HAPPY NEW YEAR,  I'm gonna lose some weight!
[02:52] <metasansana> your welcome
[02:52] <trb_> bye now
[02:54] <itsnotabigtruck> aww, just looked up that dcc router exploit and it's only a denial-of-service bug
[02:55] <viewtifulsilvia> any special cups settings needed for postscript printers?
[02:56] <dr_willis> viewtifulsilvia:  shoulnt be.
[02:56] <Guest46650> I changed my lamp's document root to /home/me/Documents/www and now am getting 403'd
[02:57] <vitamin{> do you have any files in /home/me/Documents/www  ??
[02:58] <vitamin{> oh wait nvm
[02:58] <Guest46650> vitamin{ I put an index.html file in there with some text to confirm that it works
[02:58] <vitamin{> Guest46650, did you restart apache after making the changes?
[02:58] <Guest46650> vitamin{ yes, I had chmod'd the folder to 775 and restarted apache
[02:58] <Flannel> Guest46650: Does www-data have permission to read that directory?
[02:59] <Guest46650> Flannel, would 775 allow for www-data to read it???
[03:00] <Flannel> Guest46650: The folder? yes.  What about index.html? is that 644?
[03:00] <Guest46650> Flannel, nope, that is 775
[03:00] <Flannel> Guest46650: You don't need an html file to be executable, just the directories
[03:00] <trb_> I'm back
[03:01] <Guest46650> well /home/me/Documents/www/* is also 775'd
[03:01] <trb_> ubuntu not recognizing my logitec 310 webcam michrophone
[03:01] <Flannel> Guest46650: Go look at your apache error log: /var/log/apache2/
[03:01] <trb_> picture works but mic not\
[03:02] <trb_> not recognizing the webcam usb mic?
[03:02] <Flannel> Guest46650: Is your home folder world-readable? (and your Documents folder)
[03:02] <trb_> does anyone kn ow why?
[03:02] <trb_> webcam pic works but not mic
[03:03] <viewtifulsilvia> trb_ are you set up for usb sound?
[03:03] <trb_> not sure
[03:03] <trb_> how do I check
[03:04] <trb_> I get sound out of the audio jack
[03:04] <Guest46650> Flannel the error log only shows a thousand lines of permissions denied: access to ......
[03:04] <trb_>  but the mic is in the webcan
[03:04] <viewtifulsilvia> trb_, is that audio jack connected to a sound card?
[03:04] <Guest46650> Flannel I haven't checked that in the home folder
[03:04] <trb_> heck if I know its on the laptop
[03:04] <trb_> I guess its on the mb
[03:05] <Guest46650> Flannel I just realized that my home folder is encrypted..  Will that mess with that?
[03:06] <Flannel> Guest46650: It may.  What ultimately needs to happen is that the www-data user (the user apache runs as) must be able to read those files.
[03:06] <Guest46650> Flannel okay thanks, I'm going to work on that one..
[03:06] <viewtifulsilvia> trb_, have you got an audio jack for pluging in standard microphones?
[03:06] <Flannel> Guest46650: so, what you could do is open a terminal, `sudo -u www-data -i` to move into www-data, and then play around to see what you can see/cant see
[03:06] <trb_> yes
[03:07] <viewtifulsilvia> trb_, have you got a standard microphone to use?
[03:07] <trb_> but I want it to recognize the usb mic if it is plugged in
[03:07] <trb_> yes should I just use that
[03:08] <trb_> i am testing the standard mic jack now hold on
[03:10] <Joshr1> Hello Ladies, Gentlemen, and Bots.
[03:11] <oyy> hi
[03:12] <moes> I am trying to delete 2 partition on my hard drive..using gparted 1 is extended the other is swap...both have an icon of a padlock..How do I remove the pad locks
[03:13] <oscalation> is there a channel for ubuntu documenation or wiki?
[03:14] <puff_> oscalation: what kind of documentation
[03:15] <Resistance> is it possible to force the downgrade of a package without actually removing the package?  via command line
[03:15] <viewtifulsilvia> trb_, does it work with an analog microphone?
[03:15] <oscalation> the help.ubuntu.com site puff_
[03:15] <oscalation> or wiki
[03:15] <aBound> oscalation, There's a guide for 11.10 www.ubuntuguide.org
[03:15] <Macheil> ikonia, hey man
[03:16] <puff_> oscalation: i just use man or info but yeah there's tons
[03:16] <oscalation> i wanted to know if the old documentation wiki pages are being moved to the new ubuntu wiki?
[03:17] <oscalation> like... here is new wiki  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/     here is old  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckingYourUbuntuVersion
[03:17] <puff_> I actually found a bunch of youtube howtos on just about naything ubuntu last night
[03:17] <puff_> some people need visual help
[03:18] <aBound> Not a fan of tutorials/videos over books. Yet, they do help to an extent.
[03:18]  * solid_liq is now known as 2_tone_beat_up_old_stationwagon
[03:19] <viewtifulsilvia> must've worked
[03:20]  * puff_ fingers root
[03:20] <puff_> :D
[03:21] <puff_> ircing as root is like playing frogger on an interstate highway
[03:22] <nlvWP> HARD GAY CHATS
[03:22] <nlvWP> HARD GAY CHATS
[03:22] <FloodBot1> nlvWP: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:22] <hXYDgS> HARD GAY CHATS
[03:22] <hXYDgS> HARD GAY CHATS
[03:22] <hXYDgS> HARD GAY CHATS
[03:22] <Resistance> !opsd
[03:22] <Resistance> !ops
[03:22] <exwY> HARD GAY CHATS
[03:22] <exwY> HARD GAY CHATS
[03:22] <exwY> HARD GAY CHATS
[03:22] <FloodBot1> Resistance: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:22] <FloodBot1> exwY: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:22] <TgC> HARD GAY CHATS
[03:22] <TgC> HARD GAY CHATS
[03:22] <qwiQbq> HARD GAY CHATS
[03:22] <qwiQbq> HARD GAY CHATS
[03:22] <oNG> HARD GAY CHATS
[03:22] <oNG> HARD GAY CHATS
[03:22] <WNm> HARD GAY CHATS
[03:22] <WNm> HARD GAY CHATS
[03:23]  * solid_liq is now known as 2_tone_beat_up_old_stationwagon
[03:23] <Resistance> !offtopic | solid_liq
[03:25] <aBound> Somebody flooding ubuntu-unregistered?
[03:26] <swim> Flannel I gave www-data to my home folder and everything appears to work fine now.  thanks a lot buddy!
[03:26] <Resistance> aBound:  they were attackig here a little while ago
[03:26] <Flannel> Alright guys, looks like they're at it again.  Same as before, unregistered users are being sent elsewhere for a bit.  While we may experience unexpected turbulence in the near future, everyone is encouraged to keep their seatbelts fastened while you're in your seats.  Thanks for flying with us today.
[03:26] <Jeremy3D> holy smokes that was weird
[03:27] <aBound> Resistance, Looks like they might be attacking still.
[03:27] <Jeremy3D> can i still get help on the forum while all this is going on?
[03:27] <freenodiz> i installed nginx...how can i check if ssl was installed along with my nginx install ?command?
[03:27] <Jeremy3D> err chat
[03:27] <Flannel> aBound: Yes, but not here.
[03:27]  * Resistance points at Flannel's message
[03:27] <puff_> !Docs
[03:27] <aBound> Flannel, Good thing too. :P
[03:27] <Flannel> Jeremy3D: This channel should be fine, yeah.  We'll do our best to contain things if they crop up in here.
[03:27] <puff_> there ya go
[03:27] <Jeremy3D> Flannel, ty
[03:28] <Jeremy3D> so i had a wireless G usb card for my desktop to connect to the router in the other room.  I installed an N card on the windows side but when i come into ubuntu i'm only getting 1.5mb downloads when i'm subscribed to around 12mb. looks like something isnt set right in ubuntu, where would i correct it?
[03:29] <puff_> Jeremy3D use the network configurator
[03:29] <moes> I am trying to delete 2 partition on my hard drive..using gparted 1 is extended the other is swap...both have an icon of a padlock..How do I remove the pad locks
[03:30] <Jeremy3D> when i got to System Settings>Network>Wireless i dont see anything worth changing
[03:30] <puff_> moes: you would need to man gparted for that
[03:31] <puff_> Jeremy3D when you click configure on it do you see transmit window sizes
[03:31] <puff_> you tweak packet sizes for more througput
[03:31] <moes> puff, Have you every seen this...I have used link and gparted and first time to see
[03:31] <puff_> moes never used gparted
[03:31] <[1]ansgar> are amd or nvidia cards better supported in ubuntu?
[03:32] <Jeremy3D> i see a configure for my network SSID, mode "infrastructure" MTU "automatic" and tabs WIRELESS IPv4 IPv6 and Wireless Secrutiy
[03:32] <puff_> MTU
[03:32] <puff_> maximum transmit unit
[03:32] <Jeremy3D> puff, so what should i set it to?
[03:33] <puff_> experiment start around 1500
[03:33] <Jeremy3D> and check Available for All Users?
[03:33] <puff_> yeah
[03:33] <aBound> nVidia from what I see tends to be better supported in Ubuntu.
[03:34] <puff_> aBound I am using an nvidia chipset it prompted me to update then updated it for me
[03:34] <puff_> pretty good support I'd say
[03:34] <aBound> puff_, Same here.
[03:34] <[1]ansgar> thanks! i've always used the intel onboard and i'm really itching to upgrade
[03:35] <aBound> By the way there's an open source nvidia driver too. But isn't as good as the restricted binary nvidia driver.
[03:35] <Jeremy3D> i'm up to 5k and getting closer to what i should . should i keep this number lower?
[03:35] <puff_> moes: I will now install gparted to see what i CAN TELL
[03:35] <puff_> oops caps
[03:36] <[1]ansgar> thanks, i'll probably go with the opensource driver. i only need hw acceleration in windows
[03:36] <puff_> Jeremy3D: tweak, test, tweak, test, repeat
[03:36] <robin0800> moes: the padlock means that they are mounted and can't be operated on you can try and unmount them but you may not be able to
[03:36] <Jeremy3D> puff, 10-4 ty
[03:36] <Jeremy3D> bbl
[03:37] <puff_> wow software center popped open with traum splash on it, awesome
[03:39] <aBound> puff_, :P
[03:40] <aBound> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS is supposed to load Software Center in under 2 seconds.
[03:40] <puff_> try less than 2 and this is 11.10
[03:41] <aBound> hehe
[03:41] <aBound> I'm using 11.10 on an SSD but still takes a few seconds for the loading icon to go away.
[03:42] <puff_> lol installation complete
[03:42] <puff_> what happens when I fill up my launcher dock
[03:42] <diytto> huh
[03:42] <aBound> The unity dock?
[03:42] <puff_> yeah
[03:43] <diytto> i was joined to #ubuntu-unregged
[03:43] <aBound> Haven't tried it.
[03:43] <aBound> :P
[03:43] <diytto> >.>
[03:43] <puff_> one more and I will find out
[03:43] <puff_> gonna try it to see
[03:44] <aBound> diytto, You get sent there if you haven't registered an ID with Ubuntu.
[03:45] <aBound> In IRC of course.
[03:45] <diytto> hmmm... is this new?
[03:45] <aBound> diytto, From what I seen it seems new.
[03:45] <diytto> alright. I'll see if i can register then
[03:45] <aBound> They're trying to verify if you're a real user rather than a bot.
[03:46] <diytto> that makes sense
[03:46] <diytto> !identify
[03:47] <ki11j0y> hello
[03:48] <cipherboy> ki11j0y: hello, do you have a question?
[03:48] <puff_> where are you guys getting these 12+ versions
[03:48] <aBound> diytto, Earlier the other room got flooded with bots.
[03:48] <diytto> cool.
[03:48] <aBound> puff_, 12.04 LTS is in Alpha 1 right now and they do have daily builds. But the official release doesn't come out till somewhere in April 2012.
[03:49] <ki11j0y> yes i do, how r u doing cipherboy?
[03:49] <puff_> and the answer to what happens when you fill up your launcher dock is they stack
[03:49] <puff_> awesome
[03:50] <aBound> :P
[03:50] <Fudge> how can i set my sound settings to use rear mic for default, when i boot it defaults to front
[03:50] <cipherboy> test -- irc isn't keeping me on.
[03:50] <ki11j0y> im trying to put a distro on a generic netbook...
[03:50] <puff_> aBound I will wait till the release heh
[03:50] <cipherboy> sorry, I keep getting odd issues with the webclient and this channel.
[03:50] <ki11j0y> np
[03:51] <aBound> puff_, I can't wait either. :-)
[03:51] <Fudge> i find the alpha very usable
[03:51] <puff_> I will have built several more boxes by then
[03:51] <geoffmcc> having problems with an ipv6 tunnel. it works like a charm, but then after a few min if no activity it dies out on me. if i do an ipv6 test i get 1/10, but then if i restart networking its back to 10/10. is there something i can put into /etc/network/interfaces to keep this alive? http://paste.ubuntu.com/790151/
[03:51] <aBound> LTS provides stability woot.
[03:51] <puff_> averaging 1 every 2 months
[03:52] <puff_> keepalive
[03:53] <geoffmcc> puff_: would that be | iface he-ipv6 inet6 v4tunnel keepalive
[03:53] <puff_> ubuntu and amd seem to like each other a lot
[03:53] <puff_> geofmcc: yes the keyword here is keepalive
[03:54] <puff_> it means exactly ehat you think it does
[03:54] <Fudge> puff_  my laptop is amd but i cant figure how to get turbo to work
[03:54] <aBound> I'd probably do an entirely new fresh install for 12.04.
[03:54] <aBound> When it comes out.
[03:55] <puff_> turbo geez the biostar bords have built in overclocking
[03:55] <geoffmcc> puff_: i understand the comand, was not aware could be used in network/interfaces setup. what i am asking is in the example i said, did i put it in right spot or would it be elsewhere
[03:55] <Fudge> puff_  ive just never seen the cpu freq go over 1500 where as apparently turbo is 2.4, nothing in the bios relating to it
[03:56] <vouth> Hi. I'm on a live DVD. I ran dd, trying to dd to /dev/sda3, but mistyped it as /dev/sd3. It gave me an error about "no space left on device" after a few seconds and ~500 megs. Is that likely to have any adverse effects?
[03:56] <Fudge> shouldnt do
[03:57] <puff_> brain overload please wait for cooldown
[03:57] <c_smith> vouth: I wouldn't believe so since it gave you an error at the get-go
[03:58] <vouth> c_smith: Well, it had already dd'd 500 megs! It must have gone somewhere.
[03:58] <Gallomimia> yay people who know things.....
[03:59] <vouth> c_smith: Or maybe it just went into nowhere.
[03:59] <c_smith> hmmmm, second thoughts, I'd better look up stuff before I open my big trap.
[03:59] <c_smith> vouth: give me a second to read up on DD.....
[03:59] <vouth> c_smith, Either way if my computer works and my data's still there I'm happy :-)
[03:59] <Gallomimia> k so i've got this old-as-snot box that i'm trying to netboot off my mac. i just verified that the dhcp server's working. i think the tftp server's working. but the damn thing still boots into windows. any suggestions on what to examine next so as to find out why?
[03:59] <vouth> c_smith: Ok. Thanks for being so patient!
[04:00] <c_smith> vouth, if that is the case, give it a restart, if it doesn't boot up, you know something went bad.
[04:00] <vouth> c_smith, Ok, that makes sense. Thanks.
[04:00] <puff_> pretty sure the ipv6 tunnel protocol allows for keepalive functionality would be in the config I woukld think may need research
[04:00] <puff_> just too many irons in my fire atm
[04:01] <puff_> the connection properties
[04:01] <c_smith> vouth, hopefull nothing too bad happened, if it did, better hope you have a back up of your data.
[04:01] <vouth> c_smith: Oh, now that I think about it… I don't think there'd be any device called /dev/sd3, and I have about a gig of ram, so I bet that what I did is eat up what ram I had left in the live session with half of an ISO. :-D
[04:02] <Gallomimia> anyone familiar with netboot installs?
[04:02] <cloudgeek> facing problem in installing sun java jdk , it is able install but it comes accept terms and condition , then how to press the ok buton no option there is !! plz help how to do that
[04:02] <matt__> exactly what are these for? im a noob with ubuntu
[04:02] <puff_> I must hunt the apaxhe2 meta package
[04:02] <dr_willis> cloudgeek:  use the tab key and enter key
[04:02] <vouth> c_smith, actually I don't have a backup of anything. Mainly because I haven't bought any new storage in a while. (I had a nasty experience recently with everything on a 250GB external hard drive unexpectedly vanishing, including a lot of my work from the past year. No idea why. :-P)
[04:02] <|Anthony|> using 10.04 i just moved an auto-hide panel to the left side and now i am unable to hover over it and have it unhide
[04:02] <puff_> s/apaxhe2/apache2
[04:02] <vouth> !patience | Gallomimia
[04:03] <|Anthony|> any way to delete a panel that doesn't require you to be able to right click on it?
[04:03] <matt__> what are these for?
[04:03] <c_smith> vouth, that would make sense, anything to do with partitions is very particular on how the device is named.
[04:03] <vouth> matt__, what are "these"?
[04:03] <vouth> c_smith, Hmm, thanks.
[04:04] <vouth> c_smith, Thank you again for helping :-)
[04:04] <c_smith> vouth: no prob
[04:04] <cloudgeek> dr_willis:thanks now it installed
[04:05] <matt__> what is exactly xchat used for vouth?
[04:05] <cloudgeek> dr_willis:yeah :) it is working
[04:06] <Gallomimia> forums yeah good idea
[04:06] <Gallomimia> matt_ you're on irc right now.
[04:06] <Gallomimia> aw he gone
[04:06] <|Anthony|> nm... i was able to pull up the panel
[04:06] <puff_> ya gotta love apt-get
[04:08] <cloudgeek> hey after installtion of java , when try to use commonad sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun
[04:09] <cloudgeek> it is giving error i paste there  http://paste.ubuntu.com/790160/
[04:09] <willbradley> hiya; when i click Language Support nothing happens. Using Netbook Remix. Where do I start debugging besides google?
[04:10] <caffine> can someone point me at a page that would tell me how to access my line in jack? i can't seem to figure out what i'm doing wrong. i've searched a bit and i'm not getting useful results yet. :(
[04:10] <dr_willis> willbradley:  forums or askubuntu.com perhaps.
[04:11] <thomedy> okay i really need help i couldnt get my wireless to work in 10.04 so i upgraded to 11.10 im still having issues...
[04:11] <thomedy> i by no means can write an operating system so im not complaining
[04:11] <thomedy> but it would be nice to get this fixed
[04:11] <dr_willis> thomedy:  and your wireless chipset is? You have ran the addational-drivers tool?
[04:12] <thomedy> its connecting with out any strenght thouh the strength from the output is full
[04:12] <thomedy> i have a ath5k
[04:12] <puff_> !wireless
[04:12] <thomedy> i have been all over those.. and i ended up making it worse last night because none of the ubuntu docs helped so istrayed
[04:13] <thomedy> and knocked out my eth0
[04:13] <thomedy> thats when i upgraded to 11.10
[04:13] <puff_> heh we saw the same thing lest night I think I know how to fix it hang on a sec
[04:13] <dr_willis> i wonder if a clean install of 11.10 might kick it into gear.
[04:14] <puff_> thomedy:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m03RcFkSIA8
[04:14] <dr_willis> or at least test with a 11.10 live cd.
[04:14] <Gallomimia> lucky you guys all of you. i haven't even managed to get an install :P
[04:15] <puff_> geez the installs have been flawless and simple
[04:15] <thomedy> sorry i was feeding my son
[04:15] <Gallomimia> hm... i should see if this machine will boot from cd of another os
[04:15] <puff_> and I did an upgrade last night while chatting in here with 0 effort
[04:15] <thomedy> i didn't install with a cd if that was at me... i made a live usb and ran it
[04:15] <thomedy> so go to you tube got it
[04:16] <puff_> yup
[04:16] <puff_> thomedy: that worked like magic on a hard one last night
[04:16] <puff_> broadcom wireless issue
[04:16] <Opeeqq> hi, sorry if I ask a question on KVM, but I have not found anyone in their channels, I have a bridge between a guess and a PCI card, but in all the forums talking about the processor has to support IOMMU, I have a AMD ATLHON, I perform a dmesg | grep AMD-Vi and nothing happens in the terminal, but my processor is AMD / Pacifica, my question is independent IOMMU?
[04:17] <divewolf> Can anyone tell me how to download the apps?
[04:17] <thomedy> is there supposed to be sound
[04:17] <puff_> mmm took me 30 secs to find install and run apache2, I gotta say this is awesome
[04:17] <dr_willis> divewolf:  what apps?
[04:18] <divewolf> any apps don;t see a download link anywhere
[04:18] <dr_willis> divewolf:  you use the software center
[04:19] <Golfgeo> Hi all
[04:19] <Gallomimia> yeah my old box doesn't seem to support usb booting. and i can't get the cd drive to boot anything. last ditch effort is netboot. don't think the nic/mobo/bios combo is going to allow it
[04:19] <dr_willis> Gallomimia:  you could move the HD to a differnt box install, then move it back
[04:19] <puff_> umm if ya know the name already then sudo apt-get install <application> is freakin awesome
[04:20] <Gallomimia> alas, i have nothing else which will read a pata drive :(
[04:20] <Gallomimia> in fact i want to get this up and running to read another old pata drive from a system that's tits-up
[04:20] <CarlFK> Gallomimia: can you boot a floppy?
[04:20] <Gallomimia> i imagine i could
[04:20] <Gallomimia> if i had a floppy disk
[04:20] <puff_> whats a floppy?
[04:20] <Gallomimia> yeah
[04:21] <Gallomimia> hehe. it has the drive but i have no disks
[04:21] <Golfgeo> Installing lubuntu on my girlfriends laptop (am an avind Debian user myself) and am wondering what rights the default user (one creates with the installer) gets? In other words: Should I first create an Admin type user and then add my girlfriend as a user... I want her to basicly have user level access...
[04:21] <Golfgeo> wow, that was a long question in the end :D
[04:21] <pangolin> Golfgeo: the default user gets sudo privs.
[04:21] <CarlFK> Golfgeo: default user is in the sudo group
[04:21] <Golfgeo> hmm
[04:21] <robin0800> Gallomimia: check boot order in bios make sure cd is before hard disk and perhaps floppy first
[04:22] <Gallomimia> oh yes i have the boot order all sorted. in fact i've got net boot at the top. it TRIES To boot from a ubuntu live cd but fails with read errors
[04:22] <Golfgeo> pangolin & CarlFK: can I bind a password to the Root account so she would have to ask me to type it in every time?
[04:22] <Gallomimia> two separate burns. would love to do an md5 checksum on the disk but i can't seem to find that anywhere
[04:23] <divewolf> ok now I feel really stupid but... where is the software center on this site?
[04:23] <Gallomimia> apt-get list?
[04:23] <robin0800> Gallomimia: its on the web site where you downloaded the iso
[04:23] <pangolin> Golfgeo: root is locked default, there is no root in ubuntu
[04:23] <dr_willis> divewolf:  site? You use the software center program in the menus...
[04:23] <Golfgeo> pangolin: crapper haha
[04:23] <pangolin> so you could create a separate user who isn't in the sudo group
[04:24] <Gallomimia> robin0800: i've searched there. i can't for the life of me find it. the site in question is the js ridden main site
[04:24] <Golfgeo> k, first an admin type user, then add a user account for my girlfriend :-)
[04:24] <puff_> sudo useradd -D <user>
[04:24] <Gallomimia> heh. root with no password? sounds..... secure
[04:24] <puff_> When invoked without the -D option, the useradd command creates a new
[04:24] <puff_>        user account using the values specified on the command line plus the
[04:24] <puff_>        default values from the system. Depending on command line options, the
[04:24] <puff_>        useradd command will update system files and may also create the new
[04:24] <puff_>        user's home directory and copy initial files.
[04:24] <puff_>        By default, a group will also be created for the new user (see -g, -N,
[04:24] <FloodBot1> puff_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:24] <dr_willis> puff_:  you may want to be using 'adduser'
[04:25] <puff_> oops
[04:25] <Golfgeo> Thanks guys! :-) Btw, happy new year :-)
[04:25] <Gallomimia> cheers
[04:25] <puff_> ya gotta remember I am from the world of BSD
[04:25]  * Gallomimia runs to search for some silly windows livecd
[04:25] <puff_> Bunie: hey
[04:26] <Bunie_> Hey guys, asking this here becuz #Ubuntu is so popular ;D I installed KDE and it changed my logon screen. how do i remove the KDE logon screen and whats a good one to use?
[04:26] <Bunie_> and hi puff_ ! :3
[04:26] <CarlFK> box was running 10.10, firewire port/drive worked fine.   wiped (not upgrade) and installed 11.10, now when I plug in the fw drive I get 2 lines in dmesg (...created device fw1) but nothing about it being a disk
[04:26] <puff_> rofl
[04:26] <JoeCoolDesk> Upon upgrading to 11.10 all I get is a blinking underscore.
[04:26] <Bunie_> JoeCoolDesk: Blinking requires two eyes. Perhaps its winking at you
[04:27] <[1]ansgar> Bunie_, maybe dpkg-reconfigure gdm ?
[04:27] <puff_> JoeCoolDesk then reboot
[04:27] <JoeCoolDesk> Dear Internet:  pgrading to 11.10 all I get is a winking underscore on boot
[04:27] <robin0800> Gallomimia: http://mirrors.melbourne.co.uk/ubuntu-releases/oneiric/
[04:28] <Bunie_> [1]ansgar: What will that do exactly? Wont that just change my default to Gnome?
[04:28] <puff_> !listen | JoeCoolDesk
[04:28] <JoeCoolDesk> All previous kernels have the same behavior.
[04:28] <Bunie_> [1]ansgar: I like KDE, just not the plain logon screen
[04:28] <puff_> woops not what I meant
[04:29] <caffine> though the best one, xmms, isn't there. :(
[04:29] <puff_> geebs Bunie theres a built in KDE desktop configurator for boot and login screens
[04:29] <[1]ansgar> Bunie_, nah, it will only change your logon manager (i think) you can still select to start kde from it just like you can start a gnome session from kdm
[04:29] <dr_willis> xmms is basically a dead project
[04:29] <dr_willis> !xmms
[04:30] <caffine> dr_willis: agreed and understood. but i don't like all these ones with 50,000 "features" that i won't want just to get the three that i do.
[04:30] <puff_> JoeCoolDesk do you have some 3rd party hw
[04:30] <thomedy> puff im watching that video and it seems to use a different interface the one from 10.04 so wheni  try to find an equivalent i find additional drivers and then when i click additional drivers i obviously cant because im not connected
[04:30] <JoeCoolDesk> Isn't ALL hardware 3rd-party for linux?
[04:30] <divewolf> ok so you can't get apps here its just a review site?
[04:30] <JoeCoolDesk> I'm using a booklet 3G, puff_
[04:30] <Guest18189> brasil
[04:31] <Bunie_> JoeCoolDesk: You new to linux? welcome to the party! I just started yesterday. i've learned so much within 24 hours, and yet theres so much more to go :D
[04:31] <Guest18189> feliz ano novo !!!
[04:31] <JoeCoolDesk> I've been using Linux for 5 years.
[04:31] <puff_> thomedy: Bunie is the guy from last night that had the same issue you are he used that youtube video and got it going so I am certain the solution is there
[04:31] <Bunie_> JoeCoolDesk: Then whats the problem >> Lols
[04:31] <Bunie_> ohhh
[04:31] <puff_> when he added the driver his eth0 went bye bye
[04:32] <Bunie_> Whos having that issue?
[04:32] <Bunie_> i remember the solution :D
[04:32] <puff_> obviously we got it fixed
[04:32] <xeocs> exit
[04:32] <puff_> thoimedy is Bunie
[04:32] <thomedy> im sure thats true but i dont have a  connection on the web at all so to search for additional drivers on my linux machine is difficult
[04:32] <bono123> can someone give me a checksum from a 11.10 kernel - vmlinuz-3.0.0-14-generic
[04:32] <puff_> *thomedy
[04:32] <thomedy> im not trying to be difficult or whiney at all
[04:32] <puff_> you want me to touch it bono123?
[04:32] <thomedy> im just trying to figure it out
[04:33] <Golfgeo> k, none extra question: can I force sudo to ask a password of a user (preferably the super user)? (Going to add a password to the Root account)
[04:33] <Bunie_> thomedy: If your wireless isnt working, use Eth0. if your ethernet broke when attempting to install wireless drivers, you'll need to reinstall Linux
[04:33] <Golfgeo> *one
[04:33] <Gallomimia> divewolf what site is it you're talking about?
[04:33] <Gallomimia> crud.
[04:33] <Bunie_> thomedy: Assuming your in the same boat as me, with a broadcom wireless card
[04:33] <bono123> execute the following command and tell me the output puff_ : sudo md5sum /boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-14-generic
[04:33] <thomedy> okay let me try wireless but im goign to loose my connection here so when i come back i hope to continue this conversation im ackhing to get back to work
[04:34] <Bunie_> ?
[04:34] <Bunie_> im going to restart
[04:34] <Bunie_> brb
[04:34] <puff_> d8afd7f69122baaba6f105121c43a1da  /boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-14-generic
[04:35] <bono123> puff are you using a 64bit kernel?
[04:35] <puff_> uh huh
[04:35] <bono123> can someone using a 32bit compiled kernel execute : sudo md5sum /boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-14-generic
[04:35] <puff_> Linux honilee.org 3.0.0-14-generic #23-Ubuntu SMP Mon Nov 21 20:28:43 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[04:36] <bono123> thank you puff
[04:36] <puff_> <--PuFf The MaGiC DrAgOn
[04:37] <bono123> Im having issues , some times my mouse moves on its own and will have a mind of its own, I'm wondering if I have a modified kernel or I need to start looking at the kernel modules
[04:37] <TokoCatMobil5> TYPE
[04:37] <JoeCoolDesk> puff_, what are you talking about?
[04:37] <puff_> kernel profiles
[04:38] <JoeCoolDesk> No I meant in context to the underscore issue.
[04:38] <puff_> oh the boot problems?
[04:39] <puff_> when it does the underscore it is reading and mounting drives and loading the kernel if it sticks there it usually means ya have issues in the drive and hw setup
[04:39] <puff_> maybe 3rd party drive controller issues
[04:39] <niranjan> Hi folks, on ubuntu 11.10, how do I prevent nautilus starting every time I mount a drive in the script?
[04:40] <dr_willis> niranjan:  what script?
[04:40] <puff_> JoeCoolDesk: I would do a clean install and check my 3rd party adds if need be
[04:40] <niranjan> dr_willis: its my own backup script - shell script
[04:40] <JoeCoolDesk> Can't do a clean install.
[04:41] <puff_> no? why
[04:41] <JoeCoolDesk> Too much work into setup, plus it'd probably have the same result.
[04:41] <SwedeMike> niranjan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[04:41] <niranjan> dr_willis:Script works nicely, but can not create cront job as nautilus dialog boxes mount up
[04:42] <cindy_> how do i install java on ubuntu
[04:42] <puff_> JoeCoolDesk: you don't have a disk?
[04:42] <JoeCoolDesk> a 7.04 disk.
[04:42] <niranjan> SwedeMike: thanks, I think that's what I am looking for
[04:42] <puff_> cindy: software center restricted extras
[04:42] <cindy_> im not sure i know what means
[04:43] <puff_> cindy: see the orange shopping bag in the unity bar?\
[04:44] <puff_> click it
[04:44] <cindy_> wheres the unity bar please
[04:44] <puff_> left
[04:44] <vouth> Hai. Me agen.  :-S When I run compiz --replace, it gives me an error: "Fatal: Root visual is not a GL visual". I always got that error when I was using the integrated chipset on this motherboard, but I just added a video card that I know works fine with compiz (tried it with a live DVD). Any advice?
[04:45] <Bunie> Drivers? D;
[04:45] <puff_> orange bag
[04:45] <cindy_> i do not see it
[04:45] <geoffmcc> JoeCoolDesk: i wasnt in room for whole thing, but from what i gather your getting froze on boot with underscore. is this a fresh install or did it just start doing it?
[04:45] <vouth> Bunie: me?
[04:45] <puff_> cindy: you have a bar full of icons on the lefthand side of your desktop?
[04:45] <Bunie> vouth: Lol ignore me, im a noob here. :P but drivers is what comes to mind
[04:46] <spazzz> Does anybody know how to watch dvds on 11.10 ubuntu I read online that a guy came up with an algorithm to make it work,however they are still going to court for it.I do not know how current that is.Which is way freaking dumb if that is still going on and is true.....
[04:46] <vouth> Bunie: That was my thought but I'm not really sure how to track down the problem
[04:46] <niranjan> SwedeMike: I dont have key /apps/nautilus/preferences/media_automount in gconf-editor. Should I create new one?
[04:46] <mebigfatguy> cindy you might have auto hide, on ... move your cursor to the left of the screen
[04:46] <JoeCoolDesk> geoffmcc,  been on Ubuntu since 610,  recent upgrade to 1110 produces the problem
[04:46] <vouth> spazzz: try adding the medibuntu repository
[04:46] <puff_> spazz:xine
[04:46] <fman23> frelancer: ok so you want to create a dedicated server?
[04:46] <frelancer> fman:yes
[04:46] <frelancer> fman: yes
[04:46] <cindy_> okay it is blank on the left hand side of my computer
[04:46] <vouth> Bunie: Noobs can still be helpful :-)
[04:46] <geoffmcc> JoeCoolDesk: do you have Nvidia? and possibly use dual display?
[04:47] <spazzz> ill try xine right now..if that doesn't work ill come back
[04:47] <spazzz> i read that in the post the guy made
[04:47] <fman23> frelancer: ok do you have a spare comp?
[04:47] <puff_> it'll work it's awesome
[04:47] <mebigfatguy> cindy; what happens when you push the windows key on the keyboard>
[04:47] <frelancer> one sec
[04:47] <spazzz> thanks puff
[04:47] <spazzz> brb if not
[04:47] <Firefishe> I'm using ubuntu 11.10 and firefox 10.0.  I'm experiencing the following problems:  YouTube video colors appear inverted, and upon accessing the flash preferences widget within a youtube video frame freezes the video page, and sometimes the browser, and sometimes the system, requiring a reboot.  Any idea what might be going on here?
[04:47] <JoeCoolDesk> Nope and nope.  Not on this maasheeen anyway.  GMA 500 Poulsbo, Geoffmcc
[04:47] <vouth> spazzz: Good luck!
[04:47] <frelancer> it has to start up and then i can login to ssh shell
[04:47] <cindy_> where is that please
[04:47] <spazzz> ty
[04:48] <fman23> Firefishe: are you using 64-bit?
[04:48] <mebigfatguy> cindy_, in between ctrl and alt most probably
[04:48] <Firefishe> fman23: yes
[04:48] <caffine> so all i want to do is hear/capture the sound coming in my line-in or mic jack. neither seems to be working. not sure what's broken. in sound preference > hardware i have 24 different settings and in sound preferences > input each one of those 24 settings has 7 more settings it can match up with.  i have alsamixer running in a console behind the window and see it changing stuff, but i'm not finding the magic combo that works. c
[04:48] <geoffmcc> JoeCoolDesk: i was just wondering, cause anytime i got that problem. that was the cause
[04:48]  * puff_ slpas himself in the head vigorously
[04:48] <puff_> *slaps
[04:48] <fman23> Firefishe: and you downloaded the flash from the repositories?
[04:48] <Gallomimia> okay. i officially believe that my system won't netboot :(
[04:48] <cindy_> nothing happens
[04:48] <puff_> rofl
[04:48] <mebigfatguy> hmm
[04:48] <puff_> cindy: what version ubuntu are you running and what desktop
[04:49] <fman23> frelancer: do you have this dedicated server already set up, you just want armagetron?
[04:49] <Firefishe> fman23: I'm using the Flash-Aid plugin on Firefox to download the beta.
[04:49] <pank_> fman23, how can we create ?
[04:49] <vouth> caffine: I had that exact problem under Lubuntu a few months ago. I think what worked for me was one of the "analog" entries IIRC.
[04:49] <cindy_> im not sure
[04:49] <frelancer> yes
[04:49] <geoffmcc> JoeCoolDesk: have you tried nomodeset?
[04:49]  * tnk1 is away: Gone away for now
[04:49] <fman23> Firefishe: Flash-Aid?
[04:49] <JoeCoolDesk> geoffmcc, no.
[04:49] <frelancer> it already has no monitor
[04:49] <fman23> frelancer: ok so you want a sty+ct server
[04:50] <frelancer> yes
[04:50] <fman23> frelancer: perfect, ssh in
[04:50] <caffine> vouth: thanks :)  that only eliminates 3 of the first 24, though, and none of the seven. :p
[04:50] <frelancer> im on rdp changed my mind
[04:50] <frelancer> im in
[04:50] <cindy_> can anyone please help me install java on ubuntu please
[04:50] <fman23> frelancer: ok just in your home directory, do "bzr branch lp:~armagetronad-ct/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct"
[04:50] <puff_> umm cindy if you cannot find the software center I dunno
[04:50] <fman23> Firefishe: what is flash-aid?
[04:51] <geoffmcc> JoeCoolDesk: i would try that. i belive there are other kernel options to try to. do you know how to do nomodeset?
[04:51] <mebigfatguy> cindy: this is pretty easy: http://www.shinephp.com/install-jdk-7-on-ubuntu/
[04:51] <fman23> cindy_: openjdk or the oracle java?
[04:51] <fman23> cindy_: the openjdk is the default
[04:51] <mebigfatguy> cindy: if you type                 cat /etc/issue     in the console, what does it say?
[04:51] <vouth> caffine: Hmm. Are you using an audio card? Do you have onboard sound?
[04:52] <|Anthony|> using a dual monitor setup with each having it's own x display (modified xorg.conf and nvidia driver). That works pretty good so far.
[04:52] <|Anthony|> I would like to have each monitor have its own keyboard and mouse. Any way to do that?
[04:52] <JoeCoolDesk> geoffmcc, looks like a GRUB thing.  I've done that for acpi problems.
[04:52] <caffine> vouth: it's onboard.
[04:52] <Firefishe> fman23: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flash-aid/  --  It's a firefox extension for properly installing flash on debian and ubuntu systems
[04:52] <cindy_> just open jdkand that will allow me to install java
[04:52] <fman23> cindy_: if you want openjdk, click this link: apt://openjdk-6-jre
[04:52] <frelancer> ok what nexe
[04:52] <caffine> vouth: there's  good chance that i'm not configuring it in the right place too. did you use sound preferences?
[04:52] <puff_> there is a java installer in the software center under restricted extras
[04:53] <frelancer> wait
[04:53] <cindy_> how do i get to that
[04:53] <interlude> before I logged in to ubuntu today, on the login screen, there seemed to be a screensaver that looked like a totem visualisation running. This has never happened to me before. Has anyone seen something like this?
[04:53] <fman23> frelancer: ok "cd 0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct"
[04:53] <fman23> cindy_: just click the blue link
[04:53] <puff_> cindy:do you have a terminal open?
[04:53] <fman23> cindy_: apt://openjdk-6-jre
[04:53] <acer> I've installed 10.04.3 LTS on an Acer Azpire 5000 which has the bcm4318 WiFi chip. I see instructions for installing firmware-b43-installer  at http://www.linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Supported_devices but
[04:54] <geoffmcc> JoeCoolDesk: yes if you shift during reboot to get to grub put it in kernel options... if it works then /etc/default/grub can be changed so it knows to keep that setting
[04:54] <cindy_> where it is a question mark up top
[04:54] <vouth> caffine: Hmm. I used the sound preferences panel. My issue was when I had onboard plus a card though, so it might be different for you.
[04:54] <fman23> Firefishe: did you install beta or stable?
[04:54] <JoeCoolDesk> fb0 VESA VGA frame buffer device
[04:54] <geoffmcc> JoeCoolDesk: references earlier ubuntus but the info is the same http://www.tuxgarage.com/2011/01/ubuntumaverick-blank-screen-problem.html
[04:54] <acer> I've installed 10.04.3 LTS on an Acer Azpire 5000 which has the bcm4318 WiFi chip. I see instructions for installing firmware-b43-installer at http://www.linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Supported_devices but sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer returns error:  "E: Package firmware-b43-installer has no installation candidate"
[04:55] <richtroye> Can anyone answer a workspace question?
[04:55] <cindy_> hello i need some help herr
[04:55] <fman23> acer: type "sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter"
[04:55] <hall> how do i install java vm or java
[04:55] <mebigfatguy> cindy: do you have a terminal window open?
[04:55] <fman23> acer: without quotes of course
[04:55] <Firefishe> fman23: This is a problem with my wife's side of the drive, so I'm going to (re-) install the 64 bit beta for her, and see if that solves the problem.  If it does, but my side is then weird, it's probably a link issue, something in her directory hierarchy needing a pointer to the plugin or something.
[04:55] <cindy_> yes i do
[04:55] <mebigfatguy> what does cat /etc/issue     return?
[04:55] <dr_willis> !java
[04:55] <wolfric> what would be an ideal setup if i wanted to setup ubuntu as a media player and automatically login and only startup a single application (not a desktop)
[04:55] <vouth> caffine: Sorry I can't be of more use :-P
[04:55] <fman23> cindy_: just click the link and click install on the window that pops up: apt://openjdk-6-jre
[04:56] <caffine> vouth: thanks for trying, though. :)  whatever someone's trying to do with this sound stuff, they've really failed. this shouldn't be anywhere near this hard. :(  i can't even get the speaker test to work even though i can hear the audio from youtube videos.
[04:56] <dr_willis> wolfric:  i recall 'xbmc' package basically does that.
[04:56] <frelancer> fetching.....
[04:56] <fman23> wolfric: google xbmc live
[04:57] <fman23> i always feel smart in the irc channels
[04:57] <VanessaE> can someone tell me how to disable the password-on-resume-from-suspend "feature" (Xubuntu 11.10)?
[04:57] <cindy_> i just found the soft ware center
[04:57] <acer> b43-fwcutter is already the newest version
[04:57] <dr_willis> i saw some other xbmc live type distro the other day... but forget its name
[04:57] <frelancer> vanessae:11.04?
[04:57] <VanessaE> 11.10.
[04:58] <wolfric> dr_willis: right but that's just an application to run on ubuntu
[04:58] <puff_> !offtopic | VanessaE
[04:58] <fman23> acer: uninstall and reinstall it, it will ask you if you want to download the appropriate drivers
[04:58] <VanessaE> Oneiric
[04:58] <wolfric> dr_willis: or are you talking about as an os?
[04:58] <VanessaE> (or however that's spelled)
[04:58] <frelancer> fman23: help vanessaE
[04:58] <dr_willis> ive seen both. :)  theres several xbmc speififc mini disrtos out. and xbmc in ubuntu also adds a xbmc 'session' at the login screen
[04:58] <VanessaE> puff: it is my understanding that this affects some regular ubuntu users also.
[04:58] <richtroye> The workspace question is:  I've set ocelot to have 12 workspaces.  The chooser shows two rows of six workspaces.  How can I get it to show three rows of four workspaces?
[04:59] <dr_willis> wolfric:  then theres boxee for ubuntu also
[04:59] <puff_> my bad
[04:59] <niranjan> SwedeMike: Thanks for the help, looks like 11.10 I need to use dconf-editor and gconf-editor. Found a link at http://askubuntu.com/questions/89244/how-to-disable-automount-in-nautiluss-preferences afer your pointer
[04:59] <spazzz> puff_ I can't find it on youtube or google on how to install it...
[05:00] <wolfric> dr_willis: i'd prefer to keep ubuntu as i've already got a system installed... connected to the monitor it's a media center but it's a server i can ssh into and run services on as well
[05:00] <cindy_> key is this really that hard to install java
[05:00] <puff_> spazz: xine hang on
[05:00] <frelancer> fman23: what next
[05:00] <wolfric> dr_willis: just the likes of automatically logging into the user when the system boots up (all i can find is articles on ssh keys etc) and only starting one application without starting a desktop manager
[05:00] <JoeCoolDesk> geoffmcc, still same issue.
[05:00] <puff_> spazzz: click dash home then type in xine
[05:00] <DouglasK> Question ... Youtube's put me in the HTML5 video trial, but it says my browser doesn't support any available video formats.  I'm using Google Chrome.  Is there any packages I can add to fix this?
[05:00] <fman23> frelancer: "cd 0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct"
[05:01] <frelancer> next
[05:01] <cindy_> hello i need help installing java
[05:01] <thomedy> oky now i am officiaally irritated with ubuntu... not your guys prob however i do need to still goet it figured i out
[05:01] <fman23> frelancer: "./bootstrap.sh" i believe
[05:01] <puff_> I'm beginning to think the vanilla install is the best
[05:01] <dr_willis> wolfric:  xbmc or boxee can turn it into a media  player machine. you just set the gdm/lightdm to auto loginto  a user who hsa xbmc or boxee set as teh default session
[05:01] <thomedy> when i follow the video it starts out with a thing i cant do..
[05:02] <frelancer> ????/
[05:02] <acer> fman23: I re-installed the b43-fwcutter package but was not asked if I wanted to download the appropriate drivers.
[05:02] <puff_> thomedy: what adapter is it?
[05:02] <thomedy> i dont have additional drivers available when i click
[05:02] <acer> fman23: What now...?
[05:02] <frelancer> one sec
[05:02] <fman23> acer: well then i tihnk you will have to do it manually, what is the model card?
[05:02] <wolfric> dr_willis: what would be the best desktop manager for that? Can i run it without a desktop manager?
[05:03] <frelancer> ilike having rdp & ssh access to dedicated
[05:03] <thomedy> what is an adaptor is that lspci | grep network
[05:03] <DouglasK> Is there a better channel / IRC network to ask questions about Chrome on Linux?
[05:03] <dr_willis> wolfric:  i belove xbmc pacage pulls in openbox. i neverreally noticed what one its using. since it just runs and fullscreens
[05:03] <acer> Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[05:03] <puff_> spazzz: sudo apt-get install xine-ui
[05:03] <frelancer> aclocal?
[05:03] <geoffmcc> JoeCoolDesk: when your at the prompt can you ctrl + alt + f1 to get to a term, or is it not accepting any input
[05:03] <fman23> acer: nice, i had the 4318 too, i have a shell script that will install it, but i dont think i can give out scripts here
[05:04] <frelancer> ubuntu.paste.com\
[05:04] <puff_> apt-get is a gawd
[05:04] <JoeCoolDesk> Turns blue, with blue vertical lines.
[05:04] <frelancer>  /msg him
[05:04] <spazzz> ty its done installing now
[05:04] <hall> humm
[05:04] <Bunie> guys
[05:04] <frelancer> fman: aclocal ?
[05:05] <robin0800> wolfric: system settings/user accounts have an auto log on button
[05:05] <frelancer> fman: aclocal.m4 ?
[05:05] <darkowlzz> where is the window manager option in Ubuntu 11.10?
[05:05] <Bunie> nvm figured it out xD
[05:05] <puff_> lol
[05:05] <puff_> Bunie: you dhould try to help thomedy
[05:05] <acer> fman23: See my PM...
[05:05] <frelancer> fman: aclocal.m4 ?
[05:06] <thomedy> yeah i like that idea and i found out i have a diff controller now
[05:06] <Bunie> puff_: I would but he isnt here, he keeps leaving to try stuff :P
[05:06] <thomedy> its ar242
[05:06] <thomedy> im here right now bunie
[05:06] <puff_> <-- there he is
[05:06] <hall> said i have all the java stuff but i cant do a chat
[05:06] <thomedy> sorry
[05:06] <Bunie> thomedy: Oh i didnt see you lols ^^
[05:06] <Firefishe> fman23: Well, that didn't seem to do anything.  Faces are appearing all purple, and other colors are inverted, as well still.
[05:06] <darkowlzz> I am using blender, and I don't have middle mouse button, when I press alt+rmb, some window options comes up. How do I disable alt from window manager?
[05:06] <frelancer> msg fman cannot find aclocal
[05:07] <Bunie> thomedy: So are you able to get a connection over ethernet or wireless?
[05:07] <thomedy> i went to the video but when i click on additional drivers it doesn't show it
[05:07] <thomedy> ether
[05:07] <puff_> xine is awesomsauce
[05:07] <hall> nm i fix it
[05:07] <fman23> frelancer: is that what it said?
[05:07] <JoeCoolDesk> Hm, I can get into recovery console for an older kernel, geoffmcc
[05:08] <Bunie> thomedy: you need to find out what card you have
[05:08] <thomedy> controller?
[05:08] <geoffmcc> JoeCoolDesk: ok. been looking into it, it def your display
[05:08] <frelancer> ./bootstrap.sh
[05:08] <thomedy> ow do i find out what adapter i have
[05:08] <frelancer> yes
[05:08] <geoffmcc> JoeCoolDesk: give me a few min, might have a solution
[05:08] <spazzz> puff_ i would agree if it worked now
[05:08] <frelancer> cannot remove does not exist
[05:08] <spazzz> Wont read my disc
[05:08] <Bunie> thomedy: Theres a command you can type that will tell you the name, unfortunetly im not sure of it. i just started linux yesterday
[05:09] <thomedy> lshw, lspci,
[05:09] <wolfric> has anyone else noticed the keyboard keys such as alt f2 f1 don't work in gnome classic on 11.10?
[05:09] <AAIBB^> Hi guys,  as I have just installed yum it does not seem to work properly displaying various packages.. is this a regular thing ?
[05:09] <Firefishe> fman23: It also appears the same thing in opera, so this is a system-wide issue, not with just firefox.
[05:09] <Bunie> thomedy: are you duel booting back and forth or are you on a 2nd PC?
[05:09] <thomedy> my adapter is ar242x atheros
[05:09] <geoffmcc> JoeCoolDesk: The Poulsbo hardware is not supported in the community version of Ubuntu. However, it is reputed to "just work" on Hardy version shipped by a netbook manufacturer.. looks like there are ppa's that you can use. just trying to see if for 11.10
[05:09] <frelancer> fman: ididnt have automake yet XD
[05:10] <thomedy> no im on a 2nd pc now im running wired though so its one machine
[05:10] <fman23> frelancer: yeah u might want to install automake and build-essential
[05:10] <Bunie> thomedy: 32-bit or 64-bit Ubuntu?
[05:10] <thomedy> im pretty sure its 32
[05:10] <fman23> Firefishe: well i cant really help you if you didnt install from the repositories, i havent had this problem b4
[05:11] <frelancer> ./configure    ?
[05:11] <Firefishe> fman23: Well, how can I completely purge everything, then reinstall from the repositories?
[05:11] <fman23> frelancer: after you get ./bootstrap.sh to work, tell me
[05:11] <Firefishe> fman23: flash-aid essentially does this, at least the script is suppose to
[05:11] <vouth> Wow. What's happened HERE? This is what I get when I start compiz (now that I've finally *gotten* it to start). http://image.bayimg.com/oalmcaadk.jpg
[05:11] <frelancer> it works
[05:11] <frelancer> done
[05:11] <fman23> frelancer: ill have to give u specific configure commands
[05:11] <frelancer> kgo!
[05:12] <fman23> Firefishe: well the script might have installed what was from the repos
[05:12] <fman23> frelancer: one sec, im still hepling acer
[05:12] <frelancer> ok
[05:12] <Firefishe> fman23: It also deletes other files that may interfere with the in/re-install.
[05:12] <Firefishe> fman23: but nothing's foolproof.  I'm looking at other angles.
[05:12] <Bunie> thomiSo the linux machine isnt online at all?
[05:12] <thomedy> im wired
[05:13] <fman23> Firefishe: see if it installed from repos using synaptic, last i check the flash was "flashplugin-installer"
[05:13] <Bunie> thomedy: Kay, I have some instructions for installing your card on debian, i think. I dont think anyone here would aprove of debian instructions but :P Lols
[05:13] <burrito_> how can i open ubuntuone-client-gnome ?  i can open preferences from the menus, but can't find that anywhere in menus and can't seem to cough up a terminal command that will work
[05:13] <puff_> oops wrong button
[05:14] <fman23> Firefishe: or usc or whatever u have isntalled
[05:14] <thomedy> whatever gets my wireless working
[05:15] <Bunie> thomedy: Actually, before i say this, take into account that i have no fckn clue what im talking about. try "sudo modprobe -r ath5k" followed by "sudo modprobe ath_pci"?
[05:15] <thomedy> let me do the second command i already ran modprob -r
[05:16] <frelancer> kgo!
[05:16] <Bunie> did you run modprobe -r with "ath5k"?
[05:16] <thomedy> yes
[05:16] <Bunie> lol kay.
[05:16] <thomedy> and its saying ath_pci n ot found
[05:16] <fman23> frelancer: ./configure --disable-etc --enable-python --disable-glout --prefix=[directory to install to] --enable-armathentication --enable-dedicated --disable-automakedefaults --di
[05:16] <fman23> sable-initscripts --disable-useradd (the prefix will come in handy when u isntall multiple servers)
[05:16] <fman23> aw, it broke up my message
[05:16] <mcbaine1> aloha
[05:17] <fman23> frelancer: just put it back together
[05:17] <mcbaine1> anyone trying razor qt???
[05:17] <frelancer> idid
[05:17] <Ray24> Hi
[05:17] <Bunie> thomedy: Well... Sorry about your luck lol. There's this http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/ath_pci#Lenny but
[05:17] <mcbaine1> k.. how do i find my usb drive ??
[05:17] <Ray24> What do you do on linux when a website requires you to use internet explorer?
[05:17] <Bunie> thomedy: It's debian instructions, i dont think ubuntu even comes with apptitude
[05:17] <Ray24> and your system is completely linux*
[05:18] <frelancer> iwish i could just drag and drop
[05:18] <puff_> mcbaine1:looke for a vertical slot on the puter somewhere ?
[05:18] <reisio> Ray24: there are a number of approaches
[05:18] <Bunie> Ray24: you can set your browser to spoof IE or you can install IE via wine
[05:18] <reisio> Ray24: frequently a website doesn't require Internet Explorer, but the idiot dev who made it thinks it does: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-switcher/
[05:18] <mcbaine1> razor qt has a bar at the bottom ...
[05:18] <reisio> Ray24: so tell the website you're using Internet Explorer
[05:18] <thomedy> any one else (thank you bunie)
[05:18] <reisio> Ray24: incredibly less frequently it actually relies on IE, in which case you can install IE (via Wine as Bunie mentioned, or in a VM)
[05:18] <Ray24> I can juse use that add on
[05:18] <geoffmcc> JoeCoolDesk: EMGD drivers appear to work, but only until Natty. see http://askubuntu.com/questions/72718/i-am-looking-for-help-with-my-gma500-in-a-t91mt
[05:19] <reisio> Ray24: or if it's a government website, you can possibly complain and make them fix it
[05:19] <reisio> lot of governments have accessibility laws they are subject to
[05:19] <Ray24> thanks reise6 that was informative
[05:19] <Ray24> reisio*
[05:19] <Bunie> if a website ever required IE, it would be due to them writing the code improperly and IE is the only browser that renders it as they like Lols
[05:19] <frelancer> --prefix=     my bin folder?
[05:20] <thomedy> bunie has a point as someone whoe makes websites i hate ie
[05:20] <reisio> basically ignorance and laziness
[05:20] <thomedy> and they render completely different due
[05:20] <fman23> frelancer: just put that at like ~/arma/server1 or something
[05:20] <|Anthony|> I would like to have each monitor have its own keyboard and mouse. Any way to do that?
[05:20] <frelancer> ? make its own directory?
[05:20] <|Anthony|> using a dual monitor setup with each having it's own x display (modified xorg.conf and nvidia driver). That works pretty good so far.
[05:20] <Gallomimia> well. i know my burned livecd works. my old box's cdrom is really really borked
[05:21] <frelancer> it that the prefrences?
[05:21] <frelancer> fman: it that the prefrences?
[05:21] <fman23> frelancer: yeah and ill give u startup scripts and everything to get a multi-server set up
[05:21] <JoeCoolDesk> geoffmcc, they're saying to install from liveCD http://www.multiupload.com/S5XQD23I54
[05:21] <puff_> since spazzz is so quite I think we can assume he is lost in the ambrosia that is Xine
[05:21] <fman23> frelancer: yes u decide where it will go
[05:21] <frelancer> wheres yours?
[05:21] <spazzz> lol
[05:21] <Bunie> thomedy: Dont care of i send you risky, bad advice? :o Lols
[05:21] <frelancer> canit go in my home?
[05:21] <spazzz> I'am
[05:21] <fman23> frelancer: mine are all in /home/arma and they have their own unix user but u shouldnt have to worry about that
[05:22] <spazzz> I can't figure it out still I got an error message
[05:22] <puff_> it's nice isn't it
[05:22] <fman23> frelancer: dont put it directly in ur home
[05:22] <frelancer> ty
[05:22] <puff_> decoder error?
[05:22] <fman23> frelancer: put it in like ~/arma/server1
[05:22] <spazzz> It is nice though,if I can just get it to play my movie
[05:22] <spazzz> Yea
[05:22] <puff_> ahh
[05:22] <spazzz> I think it had to do with libcss or something
[05:22] <puff_> stndard dvd?
[05:22] <frelancer> ~ isn't included right?
[05:22] <spazzz> I reconized that name...
[05:23] <tangent3> hi, i'm getting rid of my ati graphics card and replacing it with an nvidia gtx560. is there anything i need to do before it shutdown my pc to swap the graphics cards? so far i've installed nvidia-current and nvidia-settings
[05:23] <fman23> frelancer: no ~ = ur home
[05:23] <darkowlzz> how do I stop alt-lmb window drag in Ubuntu 11.10?
[05:23] <spazzz> Yea..
[05:23] <Gallomimia> hm. this cd is actually loading. never under estimate the power of violence against damaged hard ware
[05:23] <frelancer> ohhhhhhh
[05:23] <reisio> |Anthony|: what's wrong with what's working pretty good?
[05:23] <puff_> hmm lemme see
[05:23] <fman23> frelancer: so it would be like ~/arma/server1 = /home/phllip/arma/server1
[05:23] <spazzz> Matrix is in atm trying to get it to work
[05:23] <geoffmcc> JoeCoolDesk: yea i seen that, but didnt want to recomend it as its a third party download. I leave the choice to you
[05:23] <frelancer> ok koo
[05:23] <JoeCoolDesk> How do you mean?
[05:24] <thomedy> when i typ sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[05:24] <napster> Do someone here used pdfcrack? I get an error message : "Error: file abcd.txt not found"
[05:24] <thomedy> actually let me run it down before i build it up again
[05:24] <|Anthony|> reisio: well, the 2 x screens is nice, but i'd like each screen to have its own mouse and keyboard, not share one set between 2 monitors
[05:24] <acer> fman23: Tnx!
[05:24] <napster> abcd.txt contains list of all words to try
[05:24] <geoffmcc> JoeCoolDesk: just that it is an iso on megaupload. to me it seems kinda sketchy
[05:24] <acer> It's working.... :)
[05:24] <fman23> acer: np, i had those same issues
[05:24] <thomedy> yeah when i run it up it says operation not possible due to possible rf-kill
[05:24] <|Anthony|> basically multiseat
[05:25] <Bunie> thomedy: i may have another idea
[05:25] <thomedy> im all yours
[05:25] <acer> Ok tnx again.  I gotta run.  ttyl
[05:25] <JoeCoolDesk> geoffmcc, well, how else am I to get it to working order?
[05:25] <reisio> |Anthony|: ah
[05:25] <Bunie> thomedy: it DOES have internet access yes?
[05:25] <thomedy> im running rfkill list rightn ow
[05:25] <fman23> acer: was a pain at first, but that was back when the b43 drivers stunk
[05:25] <reisio> |Anthony|: mind if I ask why? :p
[05:25] <thomedy> only wired but yes
[05:25] <frelancer> wny disable user add?    security?
[05:25] <spazzz> puff_ yea it says its crypted
[05:25] <frelancer> wny disable useradd?    security?
[05:25] <geoffmcc> JoeCoolDesk: based on everything i am seeing i am confident in saying that its your display. I would just do some searching on GMA500 + Ubuntu 11.10
[05:25] <frelancer> *why
[05:25] <fman23> frelancer: idk, ask kyle lol.  yeah security i guess
[05:26] <thomedy> okay when i run rfkill list all i get hardblocked on phy1 wireless lan
[05:26] <fman23> frelancer: u will use USER_LEVEL anyway
[05:26] <reisio> frelancer: I assume it's because "the Ubuntu way" is to use the Ubuntu-specific wizard app "adduser" instead
[05:26] <thomedy> i checked out how to unblock that it said it doesn't affect a hard block
[05:26] <Bunie> thomedy: http://wiki.debian.org/ath5k#Installation
[05:26] <fman23> reisio: no he is doing soemthing way different
[05:26] <Gallomimia> tangent3: i see no one has replied. i want to say you should be fine, but having zero experience, i won't lend you my opinion
[05:26] <reisio> fman23: ?
[05:26] <puff_> missing a plugin
[05:26] <fman23> reisio: it is a game, Armagetron Advanced
[05:26] <Bunie> thomedy: I think ur solution is right there. change a bit to fit ubuntu instead of debian, but thats it i think
[05:26] <gh0st> Error: Failed to mount Windows share
[05:26] <gh0st> Please select another viewer and try again.
[05:26] <fman23> reisio: he is making a server for it
[05:27] <tangent3> ok, rebooting then, wish me luck
[05:27] <spazzz> puff_ yea according to the laws blah blah blah.. Its a dvd ffs world just let me watch it for free! needed to say that.....
[05:27] <geoffmcc> JoeCoolDesk: Since no one else here seems to have any other info to provide i would suggest scanning the forums for gma500 and possibly posting your own. Sorry i couldnt get you all the way there, but like i said, i am confident we found the cause.
[05:27] <reisio> fman23: for what?
[05:27] <reisio> why would he disable useradd for making a game server?
[05:27] <Gallomimia> luck
[05:27] <fman23> reisio: he will be using a different authentication system
[05:27] <frelancer> fman: XD "prefix= expected absolute path"   /home/hoster/arma/server1    right?
[05:27] <puff_> hang on I'll find a plugin
[05:28] <fman23> frelancer: if hoster is ur username
[05:28] <gh0st> Sorry, didnt mean to paste. Ubuntu 10.04 I'm getting this error when I try to connect to a windows share. "Error: Failed to mount Windows share Please select another viewer and try again."
[05:28] <reisio> fman23: useradd isn't an authentication system
[05:28] <Bunie> thomedy: "sudo apt-get linux-backports-modules-intrepid"
[05:28] <geoffmcc> JoeCoolDesk: i know you didnt want to do a fresh install, but if it comes down to it, try 11.04 as there is a ppa for driver there, and it seems a driver is being worked on in the linux community
[05:28] <fman23> reisio: it isnt a command, (well it is a little) it is an in-game thing
[05:28] <DHR> In Oneiric AMD64, pressing the hardware power button doesn't evoke any action from LightDM.  Contrast that with Unity: once logged in, the pressing power button causes a "shutdown this system now?" box to pop up.  How can I get LightDM to do the same?  What controls this?
[05:28] <frelancer> lol
[05:28] <Bunie> thomedy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros
[05:29] <reisio> fman23: "useradd" that is specific to armagetron?
[05:29] <Bunie> thomedy: Theres an actual Ubuntu documentation on your driver. a bit dated, but may work.
[05:29] <fman23> reisio: not the command, it is actually USER_ADD in the game
[05:29] <reisio> ah
[05:29] <reisio> USER_ADD, not useradd
[05:29] <fman23> reisio: yeah
[05:29] <reisio> word
[05:29] <frelancer> c++ compiler?
[05:29] <fman23> reisio: armagetron is a pretty fun game, very addicting too ;)
[05:30] <DHR> JoeCoolDesk: general thought: gma500 is not supported well by open source since.  Intel hasn't released specs (they bought in the design)
[05:30] <fman23> frelancer: did u install build-essential?
[05:30] <reisio> fman23: yes I've played it :)
[05:30] <frelancer> yes? lemme check
[05:30] <DHR> JoeCoolDesk: I've avoided that chip like the plague.
[05:30] <reisio> gameplay is superior to gltron
[05:31] <frelancer> XD no
[05:31] <frelancer> XD no!!
[05:31] <DHR> JoeCoolDesk: I think that you can tell an installation to treat the driver as "vesa" and get away with it.  Poorly.
[05:31] <SwedeMike> Md: /window 20
[05:31] <SwedeMike> oops
[05:31] <frelancer> its installing now
[05:31] <burrito_> i can't get ubuntuone-client-gnome to run and it's not in my menus
[05:31] <|Anthony|> reisio, sorry for the delay. I would like to make 2 desktops out of one machine. So that others in my house could have a computer to use, no interruptions
[05:31] <fman23> frelancer: lol, nice.  you tried to compile something without build-essential
[05:31] <frelancer> fman: it's nice haveing an rdp & ssh connection
[05:32] <DHR> JoeCoolDesk: I think I read that recent kernels (newer than in Ubuntu??) can now do modesetting on gma500.
[05:32] <reisio> |Anthony|: ah
[05:32] <reisio> |Anthony|: that's called 'multi-headed' X
[05:32] <reisio> |Anthony|: or multi-seat
[05:32] <reisio> |Anthony|: look it up, you should find many tuts
[05:32] <|Anthony|> lol
[05:32] <DHR> JoeCoolDesk: this is just a dump of what I remember in case you find it useful.
[05:32] <reisio> there's another name, too
[05:32] <reisio> um...
[05:33] <reisio> multiseat is the proper one, though
[05:33] <|Anthony|> yes, i have. and have found that most people don't know what it is
[05:33] <|Anthony|> so i usually explain it
[05:33] <reisio> most people don't know what most things are
[05:33] <frelancer> ...........w..............a..............i..............t.............i.............n.........g...........!
[05:33] <|Anthony|> i digress...
[05:33] <reisio> what does that have to do with you finding tuts for using it personally?
[05:33] <puff_> spazzz: http://sourceforge.net/projects/dvd/files/libdvdnav/0.1.10/
[05:33] <spazzz> puff checking
[05:34] <frelancer> ...w......a.....i......t.....i.....n....g....!
[05:34] <reisio> |Anthony|: for example: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatX
[05:34] <fman23> oops accidentally left
[05:34] <reisio> frelancer: annoying...
[05:34] <|Anthony|> the current version of gdm shipped in 10.04 doesn't support multieseat
[05:34] <frelancer> Ok,IlL sTo{
[05:34] <reisio> |Anthony|: so?
[05:35] <frelancer> fman!
[05:35] <thomedy> i need to rfkill unblock a hard block
[05:35] <reisio> frelancer: what about him?
[05:35] <frelancer> dont leave me!
[05:35] <|Anthony|> i'll read that post to see if there is any updated info since i last read
[05:35] <frelancer> :)
[05:35] <fman23> frelancer: what?
[05:35] <frelancer> dont leave me!
[05:35] <frelancer> :)
[05:35] <spazzz> puff_ should i extract it now?
[05:36] <frelancer> ..w..a..i..t..i..n..g..!
[05:36] <puff_> looks like a manual install
[05:36] <puff_> pita
[05:36] <|Anthony|> reisio: yes, there is new information in there. Thank you
[05:37] <reisio> np
[05:37] <frelancer> finally installing buildessintals
[05:37] <puff_> spazzz: you see the install instructions looks like a c&p job then maybe ldconfig
[05:38] <Andross> can someone help me with installing 10.04 over my LAN to an acer aspire one D260-2919. I'm having issues with detecting the NIC.
[05:38] <fman23> frelancer: you need better internet
[05:38] <spazzz> let me check again with that link
[05:38] <spazzz> or ill google real fast
[05:38] <frelancer> fiber optic :) it would be nice
[05:38] <frelancer> taking donations
[05:39] <puff_> http://sourceforge.net/projects/dvd/files/libdvdnav/0.1.10/libdvdnav-0.1.10.tar.gz
[05:39] <puff_> fiber is so overrated and overpriced
[05:39] <pangolin> puff_: libdvdnav4 is in the repos
[05:39] <puff_> pangolin: oh?
[05:39] <puff_> that would be nice
[05:40] <pangolin> it is.
[05:40] <cloudgeek> happy new year to all
[05:40] <cloudgeek> from  geek teen students
[05:40] <reisio> cloudgeek: how many are you?
[05:40] <puff_> spazzz: hold up lemme try this
[05:40] <spazzz> ok
[05:41] <cloudgeek> reisio: i am cool , learning a lot this going to build something new
[05:41] <puff_> ruh roh
[05:41] <cloudgeek> i love this channel , i learned a lot of things yeah
[05:41] <puff_> syas it is the latest version
[05:41] <pangolin> !ot
[05:42] <interlude> Is it possible to run a totem visualization on the login screen of ubuntu?
[05:42] <cloudgeek> reisio: hey my new year resolution , i must use ubuntu server as my desktop with all testing
[05:42] <puff_> back to square one
[05:42] <dr_willis> interlude:  most likely yes.. :)
[05:42] <reisio> interlude: would take some work, but sure
[05:43] <dr_willis> interlude:  but it may take a bit of work. and not be worth the hassle
[05:43] <reisio> indeed, likely not
[05:43] <Andross>  can someone help me with installing 10.04 over my LAN to an acer aspire one D260-2919. I'm having issues with detecting the NIC.
[05:43] <reisio> interlude: why would you want that
[05:43] <reisio> cloudgeek: what will that get you?
[05:43] <dr_willis> ages ago i had xearth running on the gdm login. :)
[05:43] <dr_willis> and some news ticker.
[05:43] <cloudgeek> reisio:hmm
[05:44] <interlude> reisio: I don't. But when booted ubuntu today it seemed to be running a totem visualization on the login screen. I had left my computer on idle for a while.
[05:44] <cloudgeek> reisio: some one buy me a Amazon space to work on project , i think big gift from santa yeah
[05:44] <spazzz> puff_ u think this is right just with ur xp before i try it http://englanders.us/~jason/howtos.php?howto=libdvdnav
[05:44] <cloudgeek> hey i build a new system
[05:45] <interlude> reisio: kinda strange. normally it just goes black.
[05:45] <frelancer> what next
[05:45] <fman23> frelancer: what have you done?
[05:45] <cloudgeek> means ubuntu server from scratch  not code , means in terms of installation , i installed ruby ,ython ,haskell ,javasun ,some other
[05:45] <frelancer> I KILLED A MAN......WITH THIS THUMB!
[05:46] <frelancer> :))
[05:46] <frelancer> rtatatoule
[05:46] <cloudgeek> reisio:wolud like to suggest vmware or virtual fox
[05:46] <frelancer> ./configure
[05:46] <pangolin> Error: Permission Denied.
[05:46] <fman23> frelancer: with the flags?
[05:46] <reisio> cloudgeek: you asking me something?
[05:46] <frelancer> yes
[05:46] <frelancer> success
[05:47] <fman23> frelancer: wait, do u have zthread?
[05:47] <frelancer> lemme check
[05:47] <fman23> i almost forgot about that, it isnt in repos i dont think
[05:47] <frelancer> umm ididnt ,    ido now
[05:47] <fman23> zthread?
[05:47] <frelancer> umm ididnt ,    ido now
[05:48] <fman23> it was in repos?
[05:48] <frelancer> yes
[05:48] <frelancer> i just didnt install ita
[05:48] <cloudgeek> resion: yep which better vmware or virtual box
[05:48] <frelancer> til now
[05:48] <fman23> not on my comp
[05:48] <fman23> what package did u search?
[05:49] <frelancer> zthread       cameout with libzthread
[05:49] <frelancer> zthread       cameout with libzthread-2.3.2
[05:49] <reisio> interlude: sounds like it was a screen saver
[05:49] <pank_> hi how to mount a drive on terminal ?
[05:49] <reisio> pank_: a filesystem?  Of what type
[05:49] <fman23> well that is it
[05:50] <frelancer> yay?
[05:50] <fman23> frelancer: lol, u will have to configure again
[05:50] <frelancer> YAY!!!
[05:50] <frelancer> WHAT@@@!$%34
[05:50] <frelancer> anything else i should have?!
[05:50] <wookienz> Guys, upgraded to ocelot, now laptop doesn't boot. Get recovery console on boot but drops to commands prompt. Where do I start?
[05:50] <pank_> reisio,  yes
[05:51] <DHR> wookienz: does it say why?
[05:51]  * frelancer is not mad, just suprised
[05:51] <fman23> frelancer: no that should be all
[05:51] <cloudgeek> reisio: my external hardisk is not detectable for my ubuntu system what to do
[05:51] <interlude> reisio: that's what I thought as well, but when I checked it didn't look like any of the screen savers installed on my system.
[05:51] <rusty> español?
[05:51] <reisio> pank_: which FS?
[05:52] <reisio> interlude: mmm, interesting, but not that interesting :D
[05:52] <Guest44667> español
[05:52] <reisio> cloudgeek: NTFS?
[05:52] <fman23> wookienz: is there an error when you boot your laptop?
[05:52] <cloudgeek> reisio:no , kvm
[05:53] <reisio> cloudgeek: kvm isn't a filesystem type, AFAIK
[05:53] <interlude> reisio: lol, maybe someone chowns my system =P
[05:53] <reisio> cloudgeek: you're running Ubuntu as a kvm guest, is that what you mean?
[05:53] <cloudgeek> reisio: sorry kvm ,lvm
[05:53] <cloudgeek> reisio:sorry that is lvm
[05:53] <reisio> ah
[05:54] <burrito_> i can't get ubuntuone-client-gnome to run and it's not in my menus
[05:54] <NimeshNeema> i accidently deleted google-chrome-stable from my repositories. how to get it back ?
[05:55] <fman23> NimeshNeema: download the installer again from http://google.com/chrome
[05:55] <AAIBB^> could anyone point me to a clear manual to setup older repositories ? I am looking to install older gcc
[05:55] <NimeshNeema> thanks fman23
[05:55] <fman23> np
[05:58] <wookienz> Dhr hard to tell, io error I think. What commands do I have to check disc?
[05:59] <fman23> wookienz: do you know how to edit boot commands?
[05:59] <wookienz> No, and orc on my phone doesn't help my fault checking!!
[06:00] <wookienz> Irc
[06:00] <fman23> wookienz: so your hard driver worked fine b4 the update?
[06:01] <wookienz> Yes, flawless.first time I have booted since upgrade.
[06:01] <wookienz> I have boot commands menu up
[06:02] <fman23> oh good, remove the "quiet splash" from the end to see everything the kernel is doing
[06:02] <cloudgeek> command line pidgin alternative for irc
[06:02] <atvr> i need the command line for edditing the grub, its like sudo nano.... but i dont remember the other caracter
[06:03] <wookienz> Ok thanks
[06:03] <cloudgeek> gksudo gedit  is aslo good option
[06:03] <vivekimsit> I need to read some file from some windows computer from Ubuntu..Any idea?
[06:03] <fman23> atvr: sudo nano /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[06:03] <atvr> wookienz: i know but i am new an i have nerver used that one
[06:03] <atvr> fman23: thanks :)
[06:04] <fman23> vivekimsit: open a nautilus window and see if you find soemthing labeled SYSTEM or some other label on the side
[06:05] <wookienz> Fman23 dropped straight to busy box.
[06:05] <atvr> fman23: its not that one, the one i am looking for is for editing the nomodeset
[06:06] <fman23> wookienz: what errors did you see when booting?
[06:06] <fman23> atvr: nomodeset?
[06:06] <calcmandan_pre> Happy new year everyone.
[06:07] <atvr> fman23: yes to change the command to input noquite nosplash nomodeset nofb
[06:07] <fman23> atvr: no i belive that is the right file, check for the line that has "quiet splash" and replace those with that
[06:08] <Wonderhoof> hey my camera is not automounting and i cant figure out why. when i run lsusb, it shows up "Bus 001 Device 006: ID 04a9:30ef Canon, Inc. EOS 350D (ptp)"
[06:08] <Chipzzz> Happy New Year calcmandan_pre
[06:08] <atvr> fman23: i dont find that in there
[06:08] <Bunie> it might not be a Mass Storage Device, Wonderhoof
[06:08] <Wonderhoof> i've used it before on this same install iirc and it automounted
[06:08] <Wonderhoof> Bunie, it is
[06:08] <fman23> atvr: odd, one sec
[06:09] <pnorman> Some cameras can be set to automount or not
[06:09] <fman23> atvr: that is the file on my system, it is close to the bottom however
[06:10] <pnorman> er, to act as mass storage or not
[06:10] <JoeCoolDesk> geoffmcc, that's where you've lost me.
[06:10] <Wonderhoof> pnorman, i haven't changed any settings on the camera since i last used it
[06:11] <atvr> fman23: not on mine :S
[06:11] <Wonderhoof> it's not showing up as a filesystem at all :/ meh flash memory might be broken
[06:11] <fman23> atvr: what version of ubuntu?
[06:11] <pnorman> Wonderhoof: Try plugging it in and checking dmesg
[06:11] <atvr> fman23: kubuntu 11.10
[06:12] <Wonderhoof> pnorman, dmesg returns "[136356.240185] usb 1-4: new high speed USB device number 6 using ehci_hcd"
[06:12] <Wonderhoof> nothing out of the ordinary there
[06:12] <fman23> atvr: hmm, me too do "cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | grep quiet" and c if it returns anything
[06:12] <pnorman> Wonderhoof: I honestly can't remember what's expected in dmesg when you plug in a storage device
[06:13] <vivekimsit> fman23: Ok! I can see the file system !
[06:13] <wookienz> Removing quiet splash doesn't show me a thing before dropping to busy box
[06:13] <fman23> frelancer: is it still compiling?
[06:13] <Wonderhoof> me either but if there were errors wouldn't it say "failed to mount USB device" or something?
[06:13] <frelancer> ?
[06:13] <pnorman> Wonderhoof: I'm wondering about the absence of messages that indicate it's a mass storage device. lemme try plugging something in
[06:14] <Chipzzz> Wonderhoof: maybe you can mount it manually if you can figure out where it is in /dev
[06:14] <fman23> wookiehangover: try using a livecd and c if it boots up fine, then try to mount the hard drive
[06:14] <fman23> oops
[06:14] <fman23> wrong person
[06:14] <atvr> fman23: no command 'quiet' found
[06:15] <timmy> hello
[06:15] <Wonderhoof> Chipzzz, i was thinking that but it doesn't show up
[06:15] <timmy> does alsa audio conflict with pulse audio?
[06:15] <fman23> atvr: ?
[06:15] <atvr> fman23: that what it showed up
[06:15] <fman23> atvr: "cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | grep quiet"
[06:15] <Wonderhoof> timmy, i thought they worked together :|
[06:15] <pdelgado> hello all.
[06:16] <reisio> pdelgado: hi
[06:16] <galaxy> hi which version of ubuntu you guys like most
[06:16] <frelancer> fman: does it have to have zthread?
[06:16] <pdelgado> I have a MacBook Pro and I want to run Ubuntu on it for a project (in a virtual box VM) - should I download a 32 or 64 bit image of Ubuntu for this?
[06:16] <timmy> @wonderhoof well i have both and they seem to conflict as my system doesnt output any sound
[06:16] <atvr> fman23: quiet splash vt.handoff=7..... that is the line i want to edit
[06:16] <Chipzzz> Wonderhoof: try plugging in a usb stick & see what /dev it is, then unplug it, plug in the camera and mount that
[06:17] <Wonderhoof> Chipzzz, worth a shot
[06:17] <timmy> @wonderhoof im running xubuntu 32 bit (11.10_
[06:17] <fman23> frelancer: it doesnt have to but it would have to wait till the end of the round for logins which stinks when u disable end round dz and u enabled infinite rubber and r an admin and cant login yet
[06:17] <Bunie> pdelgado: Not 100% sure if you can even install Ubuntu on a macbook pro, but im new here. :P
[06:17] <Chipzzz> Wonderhoof: the worst that can happen is it will tell you there's no device there
[06:17] <Wonderhoof> timmy, check to see if your sound card is supported
[06:17] <fman23> atvr: yeah it must be close to the bottom and you just missed it
[06:17] <atvr> okep
[06:18] <pnorman> Wonderhoof: http://paste.ubuntu.com/790222/ are the messages I get by attaching a USB flash drive and removing it a few seconds later. It tells me that it's sdg
[06:18] <fman23> pdelgado: get the 32-bit if you are unsure
[06:18] <frelancer> fman: then you go to the server itself and put the commands in
[06:18] <Wonderhoof> pnorman, mine looks about the same
[06:18] <fman23> frelancer: yeah
[06:18] <thomedy> okay when i try to ifconfig up i get a rfkill problem.. and then i go to rf unblock all
[06:19] <reisio> pdelgado: there's no reason to be unsure, what's the processor?
[06:19] <fman23> frelancer: has it compiled yet?
[06:19] <Wonderhoof> i'll try mounting /dev/sdc with the camera :/
[06:19] <pnorman> pdelgado: If it's at all a recent macbook pro it should work wtih 64bit in virtualbox
[06:19] <thomedy> and i cant unblock the hardblock for phy1 wireless lan
[06:19] <frelancer> fman its been done
[06:19] <pdelgado> reisio an i7
[06:19] <pnorman> Wonderhoof: Does it say something similar when you plug in the camera?
[06:19] <frelancer> fman: :)
[06:19] <Wonderhoof> no
[06:19] <fman23> frelancer: oh lol, well then "sudo checkinstall"
[06:19] <Wonderhoof> just that one line i pasted, pnorman
[06:19] <fman23> frelancer: im not doing make isntall this time ;)
[06:20] <atvr> fman23: thanks i found it :)
[06:20] <fman23> atvr: np
[06:20] <pdelgado> pnorman: that's what i thought... just wanted some confirmation :)
[06:20] <pdelgado> *downloading*
[06:20] <pnorman> The one about ehci_hcd?
[06:20] <frelancer> why not?
[06:20] <clear`> anyone using lxde?
[06:21] <Wonderhoof> "mount: special device /dev/sdc1 does not exist"
[06:21] <Wonderhoof> LE FFFFUUUUUUUUUU
[06:21] <frelancer> fman, dosent make install take along time?
[06:21] <pnorman> Wonderhoof: If that's the only message you get when you attach the camera in mass storage mode and turned on, it sounds like there's a problem with the camera. Do you have a memory card reader?
[06:21] <Wonderhoof> well, i have no idea what's wrong with my camera. damnit
[06:21] <fman23> frelancer: cause someone will make the ubottu "inform" me of checkinstall and its superiority
[06:21] <fman23> frelancer: and no
[06:21] <Chipzzz> Wonderhoof: not a good sign :/
[06:21] <Wonderhoof> pnorman, no, sadly
[06:21] <reisio> clear`: taking a poll?
[06:22] <clear`> was going to ask if the font looks weird in lxde
[06:22] <clear`> unity is the only de that doesnt make the font look weird imo
[06:23] <pnorman> Wonderhoof: I'd guess that something with the camera is wrong and the memory card is fine. It's worth having a card reader, they're generally faster than using the camera to transfer.
[06:23] <fman23> frelancer: ok im pretty sure you can figure out checkinstall just use it to intsall the server so that it can be removed by apt later on, but remeber, it doesnt remove configs or anything like that
[06:23] <Wonderhoof> pnorman, i have a card reader on my windows computer. guess i'll try it
[06:23] <fman23> frelancer: in fact, now that i think about it, the built in uninstaller would be better if u uninstall a server
[06:24] <pnorman> Wonderhoof: Should also try the camera on windows, if it doesn't work there then you can be pretty sure it's not ubuntu
[06:24] <Chipzzz> Wonderhoof: maybe when you plug it in gparted (or parted if you have no desktop) would see it
[06:24] <galaxy> can anyone help me. don't know how to install archer on virtualbox
[06:25] <fman23> frelancer: just use the checkinstall and when u remove a server, just dpkg -r [package] and rm -rf the prefix
[06:25] <pnorman> Chipzzz: It's not even showing up in dmesg as adding a device to /dev, so I don't think that'd be it
[06:25] <twilightstar> hi
[06:25] <twilightstar> is there an applications area
[06:26] <fman23> twilightstar: you mean like a menu that shows all of your applications?
[06:26] <Wonderhoof> Chipzzz, i tried gparted
[06:26] <twilightstar> I'm looking for a calendar app that keeps me on schedule
[06:26] <Wonderhoof> nothing showed up
[06:26] <Wonderhoof> meh
[06:26] <Wonderhoof> camera might be dead
[06:26] <Chipzzz> Wonderhoof: :(
[06:26] <Wonderhoof> ahh well
[06:26] <Wonderhoof> thanks for the help
[06:26] <FloodBot1> Wonderhoof: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:26] <twilightstar> and can email me what I am suppose to be doing
[06:26] <Chipzzz> sorry :(
[06:28] <Ben64> twilightstar: google calendar?
[06:28] <fman23> frelancer: have you done sudo checkinstall yet?
[06:29] <frelancer> yes and im making the folder paths by hand
[06:29] <fman23> frelancer: ok ill zip up the startup scripts for you and upload them
[06:30] <frelancer> yayyyyyyy
[06:30] <frelancer> iits installling!!
[06:31] <galaxy> good news
[06:31] <twilightstar> I want it to be private
[06:31] <twilightstar> I don't trust google
[06:31] <twilightstar> as far as I can throw them
[06:31] <reisio> gj
[06:32] <galaxy> twilightstar: have you ever tried out GTD software
[06:32] <galaxy> get things done
[06:32] <fman23> twilightstar: i believe there is a calendar plugin for thunderbird.  if i remember, it is called lightning
[06:33] <wookienz> Fman23 mounting /sys on /root/sys failed. As well proc.
[06:33] <frelancer> ooh its working hard
[06:33] <fman23> wookiehangover: on a livecd?
[06:33] <fman23> oops wrong person again
[06:33] <fman23> wookienz: on a livecd?
[06:34] <frelancer> XD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:34] <wookienz> No,
[06:34] <fman23> wookienz: try using a livecd and c if it boots up fine, then try to mount the hard drive
[06:34] <fman23> said that a while ago but i think u left b4 i finished typing it
[06:35] <SoumyabrataPaul> I have a problem, I have installed youtube-dl and when I try to downlad any video it shows me an error that the file type is not available
[06:35] <wookienz> Also can't read fstab,
[06:35] <wookienz> No CD, overseas without tools!
[06:35] <SoumyabrataPaul> Please help, see my post
[06:35] <frelancer> lol checkinstall says "Bye" when it aborts
[06:36] <Chipzzz> wookienz: what are you trying to do?
[06:36] <fman23> Chipzzz: his laptop failed after update
[06:36] <Chipzzz> ouch!
[06:36] <fman23> Chipzzz: hardware io errors
[06:36] <Chipzzz> double ouch!
[06:36] <fman23> frelancer: y did it abort?
[06:36] <wookienz> Also, "no init found"
[06:36] <frelancer> yea, but im fising the problem
[06:37] <reisio> wookienz: usb stick?
[06:37] <fman23> wookienz did your laptop suffer any sudden move during the update?
[06:38] <Chipzzz> Wookienz: what do you have to boot to?
[06:38] <fman23> Chipzzz: he is stuck in a busybox shell
[06:39] <wookienz> Sorry back
[06:39] <fman23> wookienz: did your laptop suffer any sudden move during the update?
[06:39] <blackshirt> !tell likes
[06:40] <fman23> the arm in the hard drive couldve scratched the disc and would definately cause this type of error
[06:40] <wookienz> No
[06:40] <fman23> positive?
[06:41] <fman23> even just closing the lid hardly can cause damage (happened to my dad's laptop)
[06:41] <reisio> IME Ubuntu fails at updates a lot
[06:41] <reisio> wookienz: there are things you can try
[06:41] <reisio> like -f with apt-get
[06:42] <frelancer> SUCCESS!! excep when it builds debain package, then it fails
[06:42] <reisio> booting from a live OS and doing some things
[06:42] <fman23> frelancer: just sudo make install
[06:42] <reisio> wookienz: if your /home/ is on a separate partition you can easily reinstall the entire OS
[06:42] <fman23> frelancer: it is limited to a prefix u can just delete
[06:42] <wookienz> Resisio I can't get in, just drops to busy box
[06:42] <frelancer> yay!
[06:42] <frelancer> nxt?
[06:42] <fman23> done that?
[06:42] <frelancer> yes]
[06:43] <reisio> wookienz: then you'd have to use the live OS approach
[06:43] <fman23> frelancer: im still compressing the startup scripts
[06:43] <frelancer> ok
[06:44] <wookienz> Fman23 what command to list uuid of disc?
[06:44] <frelancer> EGGNOG!
[06:44] <Chipzzz> wookienz: have you tried holding down the shift key while it boots to see if you can get a grub prompt?
[06:44] <fman23> !spam | frelancer
[06:44] <fman23> aw doesnt know about spam
[06:45] <fman23> wookienz: no idea but if i had to guess, fdisk.  ill confirm that
[06:45] <nikonel> How do I change the defualt HOME location for all users?
[06:45] <frelancer> hey fman, look at the clock
[06:45] <frelancer> what time is it?
[06:45] <fman23> 1:45 am
[06:46] <nikonel> I am using likewise-open for AD authentication and a RAID mounted on /data
[06:46] <frelancer> 12:46
[06:46] <nikonel> I would like tpo change the defualt home directory to /data/home
[06:46] <frelancer> AM
[06:46] <frelancer> still compressing?
[06:46] <nikonel> so I'll be able to use th samba home shares
[06:46] <fman23> yeah fdisk -l shows some disk info
[06:47] <fman23> frelancer: still gathering files
[06:48] <Eartaker> is there a way to boot ubunto into terminal and not start X? I want to install it on a machine for SSH only
[06:48] <nikonel> anyone know about HOME varialbe and home shares?
[06:48] <frelancer> #offtopic | fman23
[06:48] <fman23> wookienz: try fdisk -l it might show you what you are looking fore
[06:48] <fman23> for*
[06:48] <frelancer> :)
[06:48] <fman23> frelancer: it is !offtopic | frelancer
[06:48] <frelancer> jk
[06:49] <frelancer> #offhisrocker | fman23
[06:49] <frelancer> !offhisrocker | fman23
[06:49] <frelancer> !offtopic | frelancer
[06:49] <frelancer> lol
[06:49] <frelancer> nice
[06:49] <frelancer> now the bots pm you
[06:50] <fman23> lol
[06:50] <fman23> !ettiquette | frelancer
[06:50] <Flannel> frelancer: Please help keep this channel on-topic.  If you'd like to play with ubottu, please do it in a query.  Thanks.
[06:50] <nikonel> need help with home shares
[06:50] <Chipzzz> Eartaker: it's best to install the server edition for that
[06:51] <nikonel> anyonw know how to modify the home varialbe to set the defualt home path
[06:51] <fman23> frelancer: http://www.mediafire.com/?6aoau5368awj3hu
[06:51] <nikonel> I need to change the default home path for all users
[06:51] <fman23> frelancer: extract those to the root of ~/arma/ and set their permissions appropriately
[06:52] <fman23> 755 for all of them
[06:52] <fman23> and make sure they are owned by you with chown
[06:52] <sexy> ya man i have downloaded
[06:52] <thomedy> i dont understand.... my wireless... clicks in and the unconnects
[06:52] <Guest64256> hi all
[06:53] <Guest64256> hi all
[06:53] <thomedy> its just going back and forth on its own but i know for a fact i have a strong connection my lap top is right next to the modem
[06:53] <thomedy> or whatever
[06:53] <fman23> thomedy: what is your problem?
[06:53] <thomedy> i have no idea... i thought it was a hardblock rf kill
[06:53] <reisio> Guest64256: hi; fyi it will be easier to talk to you if you change your nick to something unique (/nick foobar)
[06:54] <thomedy> because when i ifconfig up it says
[06:54] <thomedy> no way due to rfkill problem
[06:54] <thomedy> and then i rfkill list all
[06:54] <fman23> thomedy: hit the hardware button
[06:54] <fman23> thomedy: ;)
[06:54] <thomedy> i did that
[06:54] <fman23> thomedy: for the wifi
[06:54] <thomedy> i have 2 wireless lans
[06:54] <thomedy> it chnages one but not the one that is hardblocked
[06:54] <fman23> thomedy: well then hit it again, that means that the hardware is off
[06:54] <kevinyoung> reisio: thank you
[06:54] <thomedy> i everytime i hit it it change3s the other one
[06:55] <jiltdil> Which is best video editor in ubuntu? I  want to put music in background of the video.
[06:55] <Chipzzz> nikonel: why don't you make a symbolic link to the directory you want to be /home ?
[06:55] <fman23> jiltdil: for simple use, openshot
[06:55] <reisio> kevinyoung: :)
[06:55] <jiltdil> fman23, thanks
[06:55] <fman23> thomedy: do you need both on at the same time?
[06:55] <reisio> jiltdil: for youtube?
[06:55] <kevinyoung> reisio: :)
[06:56] <jiltdil> reisio,  no for my oersonal
[06:56] <thomedy> unfortunately all i know is its not working what ill do is rfkill list all and pastebin its output
[06:56] <nafcool697> hey
[06:56] <thomedy> one sec please
[06:56] <nafcool697> I'm new to Ubuntu
[06:56] <nafcool697> and want help
[06:56] <nafcool697> what are these commands like %opera or so?
[06:57] <reisio> jiltdil: so an actual video, not just an image
[06:57] <reisio> nafcool697: for doing what?
[06:57] <nafcool697> no just for calling commands for?
[06:57] <thomedy> okay for no reason that i can see it just un blocked itself i didn't press or type anything
[06:57] <jiltdil> reise6,  yes actual video..also if you know please tell me also for image
[06:57] <thomedy> im really confused
[06:57] <fman23> frelancer: have you downloaded the scripts yet?
[06:57] <thomedy> but its still not connecting
[06:58] <thomedy> now i really dont know waht to do
[06:58] <fman23> thomedy: what brand?
[06:58] <frelancer> Yes
[06:58] <thomedy> what machine do i have its a compaq
[06:58] <fman23> frelancer: set them all to the right user, with 755 permissions?
[06:58] <fman23> thomedy: i mean atheros, broadcom, what?
[06:59] <thomedy> atheros
[06:59] <frelancer> 775?
[06:59] <fman23> frelancer: yes or +x, whichever u prefer
[06:59] <frelancer> ?
[06:59] <fman23> thomedy: and you installed the drivers from the additional drivers application?
[06:59] <fman23> frelancer: chmod 755 *.sh
[06:59] <thomedy> i typed additional drives and nothing showed up
[06:59] <nafcool697> reisio: like i'm using xchat on Ubutnu 11.04 & opening any link has the command -> !opera -remote 'openURL(%s)'
[07:00] <fman23> chown fre:fre *.sh (replace fre with ur username)
[07:00] <fman23> thomedy: hmm, have you tried rebooting?
[07:01] <fman23> thomedy: hmm, have you tried rebooting?
[07:01] <thomedy> i have rebooted i just did
[07:01] <nafcool697> can anyone help me
[07:01] <fman23> thomedy: and it still doesnt work?
[07:01] <Chipzzz> nfacool697: in the example you gave, it executes the opera browser with the -remote parameter and goes to the URL %s
[07:01] <thomedy> ill check the additional drivers again though i didn't do taht after i rebooted i dont think
[07:01] <reisio> nafcool697: http://xchat.org/faq/#q221
[07:02] <nafcool697> i'm taking part in a contest where i need to know these commands
[07:02] <nafcool697> and not only for IRC but for everything
[07:02] <thomedy> yeah still no additional drivers available
[07:02] <nafcool697> like this one -> gksu add-apt-repository %s
[07:03] <frelancer> k
[07:03] <Chipzzz> nfacool697: when that one executes, it replaces %s with a parameter passed by the calling program
[07:03] <fman23> frelancer: have u set the correct permissions for the files?
[07:03] <frelancer> chmod and chown     done
[07:03] <fman23> on the server right?
[07:03] <reisio> nafcool697: what contest
[07:03] <frelancer> for all theree
[07:04] <frelancer> duh!
[07:04] <fman23> those files are in ~/arma/ right?
[07:04] <Chipzzz> i was wondering that, too, reisio
[07:04] <frelancer>  ~/arma/server1/
[07:04] <nafcool697> reisio: Google Code-in
[07:05] <fman23> move them a directly down, i want to do some hard linking so that when u update one, all of ur servers update
[07:05] <frelancer> should i bump them down to ~/arma
[07:05] <frelancer> ?
[07:05] <fman23> it will make it easier when u set up new servers
[07:05] <nafcool697> reisio: like how do i know what is this gksu add-apt-repository %s
[07:05] <fman23> move all three down (or actually up i should say)
[07:05] <thomedy> okay i am making progress..
[07:05] <frelancer> so bump them down to ~/arma ok
[07:05] <fman23> ok good
[07:06] <thomedy> i dont konw what happened but i can finaly ifconfig up with out an rfkill error
[07:06] <fman23> now "ln start.sh server1/"
[07:06] <frelancer> me?
[07:06] <fman23> and "ln screen.sh server1/"
[07:06] <fman23> yes
[07:06] <thomedy> i think when i rfkill unblock all and then rebooted it gave me something i dont know
[07:06] <thomedy> but i did that and now i can iwlist scan
[07:06] <thomedy> so thats good
[07:06] <Chipzzz> Thanks for that nfacool697
[07:06] <fman23> thomedy: sometimes it is the hardware that needs a reboot to work properly
[07:06] <thomedy> now i gotta remember the command for adding the essid
[07:06] <thomedy> i think its sudo ifconfig essid "
[07:06] <thomedy> sorry
[07:06] <fman23> thomedy: are you without an X11 server?
[07:07] <thomedy> sudo ifconfig essid "name" key pass
[07:07] <reisio> nafcool697: depends on the context
[07:07] <thomedy> do you mean graphical output
[07:07] <thomedy> is taht what you are referring to
[07:07] <reisio> nafcool697: either man gksu or the man for whatever app you're using gksu with
[07:07] <fman23> thomedy: yes
[07:07] <reisio> nafcool697: or s/man/info/, if you are man enough
[07:07] <pooja> how to delete a non empty directory
[07:08] <thomedy> i totally have graphical output but it isn't gettin the job doneso im hacking it
[07:08] <puff_> rm -fr <dir>
[07:08] <thomedy> whats funny is i dont even network im a webdev
[07:08] <fman23> thomedy: i think there is a package called wicd-ncurses that allows you to easily set up networks from terminal
[07:08] <frelancer> fman:now?
[07:08] <fman23> frelancer: done those two commands?
[07:08] <pooja> thanks puff_
[07:09] <frelancer> yes
[07:09] <fman23> frelancer: which directory are you in?
[07:09] <reisio> puff_: ah, a fellow alphabetical order-er :D
[07:09] <puff_> heh
[07:09] <frelancer> ?
[07:09] <puff_> more like unix wasabi
[07:09] <fman23> frelancer: what is to the left of the $
[07:09] <frelancer> the director of script?
[07:09] <mcbaine1> anyone interested in some php work ???
[07:09] <thomedy> actually i think i may be one command away from building this correctly if you wouldn't mind correcting what im missing
[07:10] <frelancer> hoster@armaserver
[07:10] <thomedy> sudo ifconfig essid "name" key pass
[07:10] <fman23> thomedy: are you trying to connect to a protected network?
[07:10] <thomedy> yeah
[07:10] <thomedy> but i know the pass
[07:10] <fman23> frelancer: no the directory, what folder are you in
[07:10] <fman23> thomedy: that command would work in some cases, is it wep or wpa?
[07:10] <frelancer> hoster@armaserver:~$
[07:10] <fman23> frelancer: ???????
[07:10] <thomedy> you know i dont know like i said im not so networky
[07:11] <fman23> frelancer: where are start.sh and screen.sh
[07:11] <thomedy> how do i find out
[07:11] <frelancer> want me to cp to the arma folder?
[07:11] <t1m310rd> i need to set up a server on my home network. i have just about got it set up right, but i can't seem to set the system up to always give the sever the same internal ip to the server every time.
[07:11] <thomedy> i dont even know the difference actually
[07:11] <mcbaine1> anyone interested in some php work ???
[07:11] <frelancer> fman: want me to cp to the arma folder?
[07:11] <fman23> thomedy: i think you can just do "sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid [essid] key [pass]"
[07:11] <Chipzzz> mcbaine1: big job or little?
[07:12] <fman23> where wlan0 is ur wifi card
[07:12] <mcbaine1> quite small to begin with but could develop over the months .. what your email (you can PM me if you wish..)
[07:12] <thomedy> yeah tahts what i was going to do im looking for the name right now with iwlist scan
[07:12] <thomedy> even though i know the name
[07:12] <thomedy> im just making sure everything is copiscetic
[07:13] <mcbaine1> Chipzz: you get that ??
[07:13] <fman23> thomedy: wicd-ncurses is a command-line interface for connecting to wifi networks if u need to use it
[07:13] <frelancer> fman: want me to cd to the arma folder?
[07:13] <fman23> frelancer: where are those three files
[07:13] <frelancer> ok im at ~/arma$
[07:13] <frelancer> ok im at ~/arma/scripts
[07:14] <fman23> frelancer: !!
[07:14] <thomedy> thank you fman i kinda like knowing the root of stuff
[07:15] <fman23> frelancer: where are those three files
[07:15] <fman23> frelancer: there should be 5 locations
[07:15] <frelancer> ~/arma/scripts
[07:15] <fman23> no,no,no
[07:15] <frelancer> ?
[07:15] <fman23> frelancer: put those three files in ~/arma
[07:16] <wookienz> Fman23 it might be the disc as I can hear it making funny noises.thanks for you're help
[07:16] <frelancer> XD ok there there
[07:16] <fman23> wookienz: well if you can, try a livecd and see what it says
[07:16] <fman23> wookienz: it is not necessarily hard drive
[07:17] <frelancer> kgo!
[07:17] <fman23> frelancer: i shouldnt have expected to get a sane amount of sleep tonight helping you
[07:17] <frelancer> :)))
[07:17] <fman23> frelancer: ok now cd ~/arma
[07:17] <nafcool697> reisio: is there some rule to code these commands or any webpage?
[07:17] <frelancer> you havent learned that yet?      already have
[07:17] <fman23> frelancer: post output of ls
[07:18] <thomedy> okay im getting an invalid argument and then the password is my invalid argument
[07:18] <reisio> nafcool697: which commands
[07:18] <frelancer> grand_starter.sh screen.sh server1 start.sh
[07:18] <fman23> frelancer: ln start.sh server1/
[07:18] <fman23> thomedy: put ur password in quotes
[07:18] <nafcool697> reisio: commands which are ablr to execute in the terminal via a software
[07:19] <fman23> frelancer: ln screen.sh server1/
[07:19] <reisio> nafcool697: ah
[07:19] <thomedy> i didi try that but i will do it again so as not to miss anything
[07:19] <reisio> nafcool697: there are an awful lot, if you run 'ls /usr/bin/' (among others), there are man pages for almost all of them
[07:19] <nafcool697> reisio: great. thank you
[07:19] <nafcool697> reisio: actually i'm coding for klipper (KDE)
[07:19] <frelancer> creating hard link 'server1/screen.sh': file exists            <--is this normal?
[07:20] <frelancer> sn: creating hard link 'server1/screen.sh': file exists            <--is this normal?
[07:20] <thomedy> wow that did not do what i expected
[07:20] <frelancer> ln: creating hard link 'server1/screen.sh': file exists            <--is this normal?
[07:20] <thomedy> or the right thing
[07:20] <fman23> frelancer: rm -rf server1/screen.sh
[07:20] <thomedy> let me try again
[07:20] <fman23> frelancer: then do the command again
[07:20] <ptminh20> i have a question that why i cannot active driver of the ATI VGA card in my laptop for Ubuntu 11.10
[07:21] <fman23> ptminh20: what is your problem?
[07:21] <frelancer> teh same thing twice?
[07:21] <frelancer> or one with screen and one with start
[07:21] <fman23> one for each
[07:21] <ptminh20> i cannot active ATI driver in U11.10
[07:21] <frelancer> ok
[07:21] <fman23> ptminh20: you tried to activate from the Additional Drivers application?
[07:21] <ptminh20> yup
[07:22] <ptminh20> but it was fail
[07:22] <fman23> ptminh20: can you open a terminal?
[07:22] <frelancer> kgo!
[07:22] <frelancer> jk
[07:22] <ptminh20> yes, of course
[07:23] <fman23> ptminh20: ok type in "sudo apt-get install fglrx"
[07:23] <fman23> frelancer: ok you have done that?
[07:23] <frelancer> yess
[07:23] <ptminh20> ok
[07:23] <fman23> frelancer: now try to ln start.sh server1/ again if u havent
[07:23] <fman23> frelancer: for each of the files
[07:23] <t1m310rd> what port does a virtual network use>
[07:23] <frelancer> ok
[07:24] <frelancer> no file exists thingy
[07:24] <frelancer> so good:)
[07:24] <ptminh20> what is next ?
[07:24] <frelancer> next?
[07:24] <frelancer> lol
[07:24] <fman23> frelancer: cd ~/arma/ and try again :P
[07:24] <fman23> ptminh20: did the install work?
[07:24] <frelancer> ?
[07:24] <reisio> t1m310rd: don't cross post
[07:24] <frelancer> why it worked
[07:24] <frelancer>  !!!!!!
[07:24] <frelancer> grrrrr
[07:24] <fman23> frelancer: ls ~/arma/server1
[07:25] <ptminh20> no guy
[07:25] <fman23> ptminh20: what was the error in the install?
[07:25] <nightcrow> hiya
[07:25] <frelancer> screen.sh bin etc share start.sh
[07:25] <fman23> frelancer: ls ~/arma
[07:25] <nightcrow> can anyone recommend an easy to use easy to setup mail server for ubuntu?
[07:26] <fman23> nightcrow: a dedicated mail server, like imap and pop?
[07:26] <ptminh20> fglxr is newest version already
[07:26] <frelancer> grand_starter.sh screen.sh server1 start.sh
[07:26] <nightcrow> yes
[07:26] <fman23> ptminh20: well then it appears to be installed, try a reboot
[07:26] <frelancer> night: the questionin itself is impossible
[07:26] <nightcrow> fman23: sorry, brb, boss calling
[07:26] <nightcrow> frelancer: brb sorry
[07:26] <fman23> nightcrow: install dovecot and have it use gmail servers for outbound smtp
[07:26] <ptminh20> will  it work ?
[07:26] <frelancer> lol
[07:27] <ptminh20> r u sure ?
[07:27] <frelancer> fman
[07:27] <frelancer> grand_starter.sh screen.sh server1 start.sh
[07:27] <fman23> ptminh20: if fglrx is installed, ur ati drivers are isntalled
[07:27] <fman23> frelancer: ok now cd ~/arma
[07:27] <frelancer> kgo
[07:27] <fman23> frelancer: then "./grand_starter.sh start
[07:27] <fman23> "
[07:27] <fman23> frelancer: wait b4 u do that
[07:27] <ptminh20> ok, i will try
[07:28] <frelancer> ?
[07:28] <frelancer> ok
[07:28] <ptminh20> thank 4 ur help
[07:28] <fman23> frelancer: cd ~/arma/server1
[07:28] <frelancer> ........................................................................................................................................................................................................
[07:28] <fman23> ptminh20: np
[07:28] <frelancer> ...w....a....i....t....i....n...g....!
[07:28] <frelancer> ...w....a...i....t....i....n...g....!
[07:28] <fman23> frelancer: ok now "cat >script.php"
[07:29] <frelancer> ?
[07:29] <fman23> frelancer: ok now "nano etc/games/armagetronad-dedicated/server_info.cfg" and add your settings
[07:29] <frelancer> ...w....a...i....t....i....n...g
[07:29] <frelancer> wait
[07:29] <fman23> frelancer: waiting on what?
[07:29] <frelancer> its fosen on someting?
[07:30] <frelancer> cat >script.php
[07:30] <frelancer> ?
[07:30] <fman23> frelancer: yes
[07:30] <frelancer> right?
[07:30] <frelancer> still waition on sometihg
[07:30] <fman23> frelancer: Control+C
[07:30] <fman23> frelancer: wait
[07:30] <fman23> frelancer: what is it waiting on?
[07:30] <frelancer> its not giving ok
[07:31] <frelancer> new line, sameting?
[07:31] <frelancer> ?
[07:31] <frelancer> new line, sameting?
[07:31] <fman23> frelancer: what did u type b4 it froze?
[07:31] <frelancer> cat >script.php
[07:31] <jussi> frelancer: please try not to add extra lines, it makes it harder for everyone.
[07:31] <frelancer> hushbot :)
[07:31] <frelancer> sry
[07:31] <fman23> frelancer: that wasnt a bot
[07:31] <fman23> frelancer: lol
[07:32] <frelancer> oops
[07:32] <frelancer> sry
[07:32] <frelancer> cat >script.php
[07:32] <fman23> frelancer: yes
[07:32] <nightcrow> hi fman23
[07:32] <nightcrow> frelancer: back
[07:32] <nightcrow> sorry about that
[07:32]  * frelancer is frowning
[07:32] <nightcrow> boss called me for a quick chat
[07:32] <fman23> frelancer: the only bots are ubottu and the floodControl bots
[07:32]  * frelancer is annoyed that its not working
[07:32] <nightcrow> so what were you guys saying?
[07:33] <dragonslay> !floodcontrol
[07:33] <fman23> nightcrow: ok install dovecot and route outbound smtp traffic through gmail
[07:33] <nightcrow> ok, and how about outbound?
[07:33] <frelancer> !floodcontrol  | fman23
[07:33] <fman23> nightcrow: wait, what is this server for?
[07:33] <frelancer> !floodcontrol | fman23
[07:33] <nightcrow> webserver
[07:33] <frelancer> usaid mail
[07:33] <frelancer> ?
[07:34] <nightcrow> no, i mean, i want to be able to send mails from a website running on my webserver
[07:34] <nightcrow> using forms etc
[07:34] <fman23> nightcrow: oh thats way different, no need to get dovecot for that
[07:34] <nightcrow> ok
[07:34] <fman23> nightcrow: just use the php command "mail()"
[07:34] <fman23> search it on google, and set the smtp backend to route through gmail or something
[07:34] <nightcrow> but that command needs a server
[07:35] <fman23> nightcrow: is ur webserver running ubuntu server?
[07:35] <jussi> !info dovecot | nightcrow
[07:35] <fman23> frelancer: ls ~/arma/server1
[07:35] <nightcrow> apache2 on ubuntu
[07:35] <jussi> oh bah, hang on
[07:35] <frelancer> bin etc screen.sh share start.sh
[07:36] <fman23> frelancer: omg
[07:36] <frelancer> life is never easy
[07:36] <frelancer> or simple
[07:36] <nightcrow> fman23: basically, when people register to my site, i want the server to send that a confirmation mail
[07:36] <nightcrow> or confirmation link etc etc
[07:37] <jussi> !info mail-stack-delivery | nightcrow
[07:37] <nightcrow> mail-stack-delivery ok
[07:37] <nightcrow> ill have a look at that package
[07:37] <fman23> frelancer: this is what your directory structure should be: ~/arma/: grand_starter.sh start.sh screen.sh server1; server1: bin, etc, var, screen.sh, share, start.sh, script.php
[07:37] <fman23> nightcrow: wait thats not what u need
[07:38] <fman23> nightcrow: what you need is an smtp backend
[07:38] <nightcrow> ok, so what do i need?
[07:38] <nightcrow> ok
[07:38] <fman23> one sec, searching for the one i have
[07:38] <nightcrow> thanks fman23
[07:38] <geoffmcc> nightcrow: ssmtp is what i used to have something like wordpress or drupal do that
[07:38] <nightcrow> ok
[07:38] <fman23> nightcrow: u just want to use the mail() command right?
[07:38] <frelancer> no         var   or   script.php
[07:39] <fman23> frelancer: make those
[07:39] <fman23> frelancer: script.php needs to be blank
[07:39] <nightcrow> yes
[07:39] <Unhammer> hi, is there a simple way to run something when I plug in a usb drive with a certain label? ("something" being a backup script I have on my computer, not something stored on the usb drive)
[07:39] <fman23> nightcrow: well u might not need a backend, do u want one? it will make other mail applications simpler.
[07:39] <fman23> nightcrow: btw, i use postfix
[07:40] <fman23> relayed through gmail
[07:40] <nightcrow> fman23: why wouldnt i want one?
[07:40] <reisio> Unhammer: yes, you want a udev rule
[07:40] <geoffmcc> nightcrow: also ssmtp can be configured to use gmail, or if you use gmail @ your own doamain. i used ssmtp because my ISP blocks smtp port
[07:40] <fman23> nightcrow: for the php mail() function, to have a qualified web server, to have other system applications email
[07:40] <reisio> Unhammer: or depending on your DE there might be another higher method
[07:40] <nightcrow> fman23: i also want to send updates to my users etc
[07:40] <frelancer> ok its there, script.php = 0 bytes
[07:41] <fman23> nightcrow: im thinking a small postfix backend will do u
[07:41] <frelancer> in /arma/server1
[07:41] <nightcrow> ok, ill check out postfix and ssmpt
[07:41] <Unhammer> reisio, ok, thanks
[07:41] <frelancer> fman:
[07:41] <frelancer> kgo
[07:41] <fman23> nightcrow: and ill give u the config entries to relay through gmail
[07:42] <nightcrow> fman23: please!
[07:42] <fman23> frelancer: 1: dont spam, 2: did u get the var directory?
[07:42] <nightcrow> that would be great!
[07:42] <frelancer> its empty, but yes
[07:43] <fman23> nightcrow: add the contents of this paste to the end of the postfix config file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/790256/
[07:43] <fman23> nightcrow: but there might be something else u have to do, ill search it up
[07:43] <frelancer> .
[07:43] <fman23> frelancer: ok now did u have any spare files in ~/arma?
[07:43] <nightcrow> fman23: youre a star! thank you!
[07:44] <King_Ozzy> you're a shining star
[07:44] <King_Ozzy> no matter who you are
[07:44] <frelancer> ?   only grand_starter screen start
[07:44] <fman23> frelancer: and server1
[07:44] <frelancer> no extras
[07:44] <frelancer> yes
[07:44] <fman23> frelancer: ok now "nano etc/games/armagetronad-dedicated/server_info.cfg" and add your settings
[07:45] <fman23> frelancer: at the very least, add SERVER_NAME so u can find ur server
[07:45] <fman23> frelancer: and one last thing, is the server behind a router?
[07:45] <frelancer> yes iknow port fowarding
[07:46] <frelancer> my dad is uncertian about opening the port up though
[07:46] <fman23> nightcrow: go here for gmail relay: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/11/11/relaying-postfix-smtp-via-smtpgmailcom/
[07:46] <fman23> frelancer: it is 4534 i think
[07:46] <frelancer> yea
[07:46] <nightcrow> fman23: checking...
[07:47] <frelancer> my dad dosent want viruses gitting in, adn has been successful so far
[07:47] <fman23> frelancer: the port is not exploitable, especially when the server is running
[07:48] <fman23> frelancer: the kernel will simply ignore the port
[07:48] <frelancer> what about on windows
[07:48] <fman23> frelancer: port forwarding only allows it to go to one comp
[07:48] <frelancer> oh yea XD
[07:48] <fman23> frelancer: hence port "forwarding"
[07:48] <fman23> not port "opening"
[07:48] <frelancer> i already smacked myself in the head
[07:49] <frelancer> its ok
[07:49] <fman23> nightcrow: actually u might want to look into ssmtp now that im doing research
[07:49]  * Eartaker is downloading version 5.10....
[07:49] <frelancer> kgo!
[07:49] <geoffmcc> frelancer: http://www.nixtutor.com/linux/send-mail-with-gmail-and-ssmtp/
[07:50] <nightcrow> fman23: looks great!
[07:50] <nightcrow> ill look through it
[07:50] <nightcrow> and let you know, thank you very much!
[07:50] <fman23> nightcrow: well ssmtp is lighter, but not as functional as postfix from what i c
[07:51] <fman23> nightcrow: ssmtp actually seems to be dead
[07:51] <frelancer> fman: anything else?
[07:52] <vehemoth> what wm is oneiric using ?
[07:53] <ubuntuaddicted> this may seem silly but how can I completely redo my sources.list file as I am getting errors regarding public key files missing for archive repo's not being accessible
[07:53] <nightcrow> hmm, fman23
[07:53] <frelancer> fman: anything else?
[07:53] <nightcrow> fman23: apt-get install libsasl2
[07:53] <ubuntuaddicted> us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid  fails
[07:53] <fman23> frelancer: nope, if u have done all of that, then cd into ~/arma; do "./grand_starter.sh start"; and connect to ur new server. and one last thing not to forget, make sure u have GLOBAL_ID 1 and USER_LEVEL phillip@forums 0 in server_info.cfg
[07:53] <nightcrow> returns E: Package 'libsasl2' has no installation candidate
[07:53] <nightcrow> that happens for most of the packages in that list
[07:53] <frelancer> ty fman
[07:54] <fman23> nightcrow: i overcame that somehow, let me check how
[07:54] <fman23> it is libsasl2-2
[07:54] <frelancer> fman: sleep?
[07:55] <thomedy> how do i find out if i have dhcp because when i type dhclient it does nothing
[07:55] <Eartaker> sleep is a crutch...
[07:55] <fman23> it is ca-certificates
[07:55] <thomedy> im doing sudo dhclient wlan0
[07:55] <fman23> thomedy: u need dhclient wlan0
[07:55] <fman23> oh
[07:55] <nightcrow> fman23: i only have libsasl2-2 - Cyrus SASL - authentication abstraction library in my repo
[07:55] <fman23> thomedy: well wait a while then try a ping
[07:55] <frelancer> fman: cya lager
[07:56] <frelancer> fman: cya later
[07:56] <Eartaker> Chris_0076: you in Ky?
[07:56] <fman23> nightcrow: the proper packages are libsasl2-2 and ca-certificates
[07:56] <Chris_0076> Nope
[07:56] <fman23> frelancer: wait, is ur server up?
[07:56] <frelancer> no?
[07:56] <fman23> nightcrow: the rest r fine
[07:56] <frelancer> one sec
[07:56] <Eartaker> Chris_0076: oh lol Bell south covers eastern Ky moainly
[07:56] <fman23> frelancer: did u do the grand_starter.sh start
[07:56] <Chris_0076> I live in GA
[07:57] <thomedy> okay ill try a ping
[07:57] <fman23> frelancer: dang it phillip, it is 3 in the morning
[07:57] <fman23> frelancer: and i have something to do tomorrow
[07:57] <frelancer> :)))
[07:57] <frelancer> goodnight
[07:57] <fman23> gj, u have kept me up till 3
[07:57] <fman23> that takes skill
[07:57] <frelancer> ty
[07:57] <thomedy> unknown host
[07:57] <frelancer> ty very much
[07:58] <fman23> thomedy: how long did dhclient take?
[07:58] <fman23> frelancer: so ur server is all set except for the part of starting it?
[07:58] <thomedy> it never ended up respoinding
[07:58] <thomedy> it just kept working and doing nothing
[07:59] <fman23> thomedy: try using wicd-curses to connect
[07:59] <fman23> thomedy: i cant try it, but it should be an easy interface for this
[07:59] <thomedy> okay so apt-get install wicd-curses
[07:59] <thomedy> is that the case
[07:59] <fman23> yes
[07:59] <fizzz> anybody running a ssd on the ubuntu ?
[08:00] <thomedy> okay i got wire
[08:00] <thomedy> one sec
[08:00] <fman23> oh yeah, u dont have internet yet lol
[08:00] <thomedy> tell me about it
[08:00] <fman23> forgot about that one bit
[08:00] <thomedy> one sec though
[08:00] <frelancer> damnit what is teh start command
[08:01] <fman23> frelancer: while in ~/arma, ./grand_starter.sh start
[08:01] <kevinyoung> plz when i install firefox use ./run-mozilla.sh it see cannot execute
[08:01] <fman23> frelancer: or u can start and stop individual servers by making sure u r in their directory, and saying ./start.sh [start|stop]
[08:01] <frelancer> ls:cannot access /home/arma/*/: no such file or directory
[08:02] <fman23> oops
[08:02] <kevinyoung> plz
[08:02] <fman23> nano grand_starter.sh
[08:02] <nightcrow> fman23: sorry, i got cut off
[08:02] <fman23> kevinyoung: chmod 755 ./run-mozilla.sh
[08:02] <nightcrow> fman23: how can i check if my config worked?
[08:02] <frelancer> now what?
[08:02] <kevinyoung> ok thanks
[08:02] <fman23> nightcrow: the correct two packages are libsasl2-2 and ca-certificates if u didnt get my messages
[08:03] <fman23> frelancer: change like the first like to /home/[username]/arma
[08:03] <nightcrow> no, i didnt get your messages, but i realised that from one of the comments on the link that you sent me
[08:04] <thomedy> d
[08:04] <fman23> nightcrow: on nice, well then to test, run php in a shell and say the mail command
[08:04] <frelancer>  /home/hoster/arma/    ?
[08:04] <fman23> frelancer: if hoster is the username
[08:04] <thomedy> did i lose you
[08:04] <nightcrow> testing
[08:04] <fman23> thomedy: did u install wicd-curses?
[08:04] <frelancer> kgo!
[08:04] <fman23> frelancer: did u change it?
[08:04] <frelancer> yes
[08:04] <fman23> frelancer: ctrl+X
[08:05] <kevinyoung> it isn't working
[08:05] <frelancer> now kgo!
[08:05] <fman23> frelancer: then y then enter i believe
[08:05] <frelancer> now kgo!
[08:05] <fman23> frelancer: so u r back at shell?
[08:05] <kevinyoung> i have changed mode of it
[08:05] <Eartaker> Im having problems with my CD drive... if I boot with a CD in the drive I can read it with no problems but when I change it I wont find the device... any thoughts?
[08:05] <frelancer> no its editing start
[08:05] <frelancer> ? why
[08:06] <fman23> frelancer: just save that and try the starter again
[08:06] <frelancer> kgo im at shell
[08:06] <fman23> ./grand_starter.sh start
[08:06] <frelancer> nothing
[08:07] <frelancer> new line
[08:07] <fman23> frelancer: it didnt say anything?
[08:07] <Bunie> how do i open a gnome window with root privs?
[08:07] <Bunie> Gksu somethin D;
[08:07] <nightcrow> fman23: this should work, no? php -r "mail('testmail@gmail.com', 'test', 'test')"'
[08:07] <nightcrow> from command line
[08:07] <frelancer> nope
[08:07] <StepNjump> Hi guys, I'm trying to install this app but cannot get it to work. Could someone possibly help me? http://martin.ankerl.com/2009/11/15/how-to-download-any-flash-video-with-flashrip-in-ubuntu/
[08:07] <thomedy> i got a fail on  network connection mannager
[08:07] <thomedy> should i be concerned
[08:07] <fman23> nightcrow: yeah
[08:07] <frelancer> fman: nope
[08:07] <voldial> How can I create a tar file that contains 2 files without reading them off a filesystem? I have 2 chunks of data, one arrives to the script via STDIN, and the other chunk the script generates. I want the script to output a tar file which contains these two chunks of data as individual files (bonus if they are inside a folder). I cant write anything to disk until the .tar is generated (the tar file gets passed to gpg and I cant have unencry
[08:07] <voldial> pted temp data written to disk)
[08:08] <EuroNerd> I installed kubuntu-desktop on my Ubuntu. It replaced the login screen with something from KDE. How do I get back the Unity login screen without throwing out KDE entirely?
[08:08] <x_> Apport hooks for medibuntu. It wont install how do i do?
[08:08] <fman23> frelancer:well then idk, ill figure it out tomorrow
[08:08] <reisio> StepNjump: how's it not working
[08:08] <frelancer> aww iwanted to stay up later
[08:08] <fman23> thomedy: what failed?
[08:09] <fman23> thomedy: was it "* Starting Network connection manager wicd                                     [fail]"
[08:09] <fman23> ?
[08:09] <thomedy> yep]
[08:09] <Bunie> How do i open a gnome file manager window with root privs D:
[08:09] <frelancer> goodnite
[08:09] <fman23> are u running all of this in a terminal window or without the x11 server?
[08:09] <ubuntuaddicted> i should check but is 10.04.3 NOT supported anymore with it's repo's?
[08:09] <thomedy> terminal
[08:09] <StepNjump> well I created the link and everything.. whenever I click on the link, nothing happens. I even went to /usr/local/bin and tried sh flashrip.sh to no avail reisio. Have a good new year btw reisio. Nice to hear from you.
[08:09] <frelancer> fman: goodnite! GO TO BED NOW!!!!!!
[08:10] <fman23> thomedy: so no graphical server?
[08:10] <fman23> frelancer: nah
[08:10] <frelancer> lol
[08:10] <Bunie> WHY AM I IGNORED VERYWHERE IM JUST ASKING FOR THE MAGIC WORD >-<
[08:10] <reisio> EuroNerd: can probably just apt-get --reinstall install lightdm
[08:10] <thomedy> i have the gui but i m not useing right now
[08:10] <reisio> Bunie: not being answered instantaneously is not the same as being ignored
[08:10] <frelancer> bunnie: sudo shutdown now
[08:10] <fman23> thomedy: well that means u have another network manager running
[08:10] <thomedy> because it wasn't working
[08:10] <reisio> Bunie: gksu nautilus
[08:10] <EuroNerd> reisio, is lightdm the standard Ubuntu/Unity login manager?
[08:11] <StepNjump> reisio, I also have the package here in .tar.gz - I doubt that one .sh file will do anything by itself
[08:11] <thomedy> i am not sure wht to do in the network manager and clicking on the network isnt cutting it
[08:11] <reisio> EuroNerd: for the last couple/few releases it is, yes
[08:11] <thomedy> i could network-manager stop
[08:11] <thomedy> will that help
[08:11] <EuroNerd> reisio, OK, thank you.
[08:11] <reisio> StepNjump: ...why do you doubt that
[08:11] <fman23> thomedy: run these commands http://paste.ubuntu.com/790266/
[08:11] <fman23> then wicd-curses
[08:11] <Bunie> reisio: Sorry, i asked in like 5 different places and got no answer ._.
[08:12] <StepNjump> don't know.. don't know much in linux. It's just that usually, they come with a lot of other files, no?
[08:12] <reisio> StepNjump: usually they do more than this, too
[08:12] <reisio> that said a .sh file can do as much as you want it to
[08:12] <reisio> there are whole web servers written in shell
[08:12] <StepNjump> ok
[08:12] <thomedy> okay one sec
[08:12] <thomedy> thank you
[08:12] <fman23> wb nightcrow
[08:12] <reisio> this particular application is very simple, however, it seems
[08:12] <frelancer> fman: im going to bed cya, glad you like my skile
[08:12] <nightcrow> fman23: sorry, i think i may have got cut off again
[08:12] <nightcrow> :(
[08:12] <StepNjump> reisio, ok I thought it was a java file
[08:12] <nightcrow> not sure what is going on here
[08:12] <kaushal> i
[08:13] <reisio> looks like it finds files in /tmp/ and copies them and renames them is all
[08:13] <kaushal> Hi
[08:13] <fman23> nightcrow: np, did the command work?
[08:13] <nightcrow> afterall, i am using webchat
[08:13] <reisio> StepNjump: no, .sh is usually for shell, as in bash, dash, it's
[08:13] <frelancer> cyall
[08:13] <reisio> erm, bash, dash, etc.*
[08:13] <nightcrow> nope
[08:13] <fman23> bb frelancer
[08:13] <frelancer> !quit
[08:13] <nightcrow> sec
[08:13] <nightcrow> ill paste you the command i tried
[08:13] <frelancer> RQ
[08:13] <StepNjump> okk!!!
[08:13] <nightcrow> fman23: php -r "mail('test@gmail.com', 'test', 'test')"'
[08:13] <nightcrow> that should work right
[08:13] <fman23> nightcrow: what was the error?
[08:13] <frelancer> #ff0000RQ
[08:13] <frelancer> oxff0000RQ
[08:13] <frelancer> lol
[08:14] <nightcrow> no error - i just get the > sign
[08:14] <frelancer> 0xff0000RQ
[08:14] <ubuntuaddicted> i should check but is 10.04.3 NOT supported anymore with it's repo's?
[08:14] <fman23> frelancer: like this RQ
[08:14] <reisio> ubuntuaddicted: 10.04 is LTS, supported until sometime in 2013
[08:14] <nightcrow> how do i end the statement after running the command
[08:14] <thomedy> okay i got wicd to start
[08:14] <frelancer> !floodbot | fman23
[08:14] <fman23> frelancer: well spammed
[08:14] <frelancer> ty
[08:15] <frelancer> !floodbot3 | fman23
[08:15] <frelancer> !gotobed | fman23
[08:15] <StepNjump> I will try something here reisio
[08:15] <frelancer> !fryingpantohead | fman23
[08:15] <StepNjump> I will try to compile from the tar.gz reisio. I will let you know.
[08:15] <StepNjump> I'm new to this reisio
[08:15] <nightcrow> fman23: all im typing in command line is: php -r "mail('myemail@gmail.com', 'test', 'test')"'
[08:15] <ubuntuaddicted> reisio, i just checked, yeap. 10.04.3 2013 and 2015 for servers
[08:15] <reisio> StepNjump: from what tar.gz?
[08:15] <fman23> !spam | frelancer
[08:15] <ubuntuaddicted> reisio, thanks
[08:15] <nightcrow> i expected that to work
[08:16] <StepNjump> reisio: flashrip-0.2.tar.gz
[08:16] <frelancer> !sleep | fman23
[08:16] <ubuntuaddicted> desktops 2013 and servers 2015
[08:16] <fman23> nightcrow: what was the error?
[08:16] <fman23> nightcrow: was there one?
[08:16] <nightcrow> fman23: no error just a greater than sign
[08:16] <nightcrow> as if its waiting for more input
[08:16] <frelancer> k goodnite ty fman
[08:16] <kaushal> join #ubuntu-uk
[08:16] <fman23> !ubottu | frelancer
[08:16] <fman23> bb frelancer
[08:16] <fman23> nightcrow: well then u need to put the ;
[08:17] <nightcrow> tried that
[08:17] <nightcrow> :)
[08:17] <Unhammer> is there a simple way to show who is currently logged into XFCE? (ie using display 0.0
[08:17] <thomedy> im sorry fman am i good now.. because i dont thinkg i have the internet yet
[08:17] <StepNjump> reisio: How do I know I have all the necessary compilers to compile in CPP
[08:17] <StepNjump> reisio: i mean installed?
[08:18] <reisio> StepNjump: build-essential will probably cover it
[08:18] <fman23> thomedy: did u do those two commands?
[08:18] <StepNjump> ok tnx reisio
[08:18] <reisio> the vast majority of free Unix software uses gcc
[08:18] <thomedy> yeah and wicd saod ot started
[08:18] <nightcrow> fman23: i dont know why it wouldnt work, ive got php5-cli installed
[08:18] <thomedy> sorry said it started
[08:18] <fman23> thomedy: then do wicd-curses and choose ur access point
[08:18] <thomedy> thank you one sec
[08:19] <reisio> StepNjump: there are some 3rd party deb's, though, if you want to trust someone and save some time
[08:19] <reisio> for example: https://launchpad.net/~nicolas-cornette/+archive/ppa/+build/947252
[08:19] <fman23> nightcrow: try making a php script that does that and do "php script.php"
[08:19] <reisio> more at: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22flashrip-0.2.deb%22
[08:19] <rhizmoe> Unhammer: ps aux | grep xfwm4
[08:19] <SilfenX> hello - running a virtual desktop using vnc/gnome-core components only providing only a very basic type desktop for simple remote GUI control purposes. However, I wish to change the grey system default colors as they get a bit confusing with the real desktop colors of the client machine. Is there a way to change system colors without GTK/clearlooks fancy panzy stuff installed?
[08:19] <ripthejacker> someone please help me with ubuntu installation with ati card
[08:19] <thomedy> okay so its definately working but its saying that it catn find an access point im goign to start the process of ifconfig up and what not again  i might have lost a connection
[08:19] <thomedy> does that sound accurate
[08:20] <StepNjump> reisio: I will follow the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[08:20] <fman23> thomedy: well if wicd-curses started up, that is a good sign
[08:20] <thomedy> agreed
[08:20] <thomedy> it def started
[08:20] <ripthejacker> ati graphics issue please help
[08:20] <thomedy> i am just setting the networks up again
[08:21] <thomedy> i dont know why thy keep dropping it was doing taht earlier
[08:21] <fman23> ripthejacker: troubles installing fglrx?
[08:21] <ripthejacker> fman23: yes
[08:21] <fman23> ripthejacker: try to do in a command line "sudo apt-get install fglrx"
[08:21] <ripthejacker> no xserver if only i cud install using command line
[08:21] <thomedy> i have an idea why
[08:21] <thomedy> im rfkill blocked again
[08:22] <ripthejacker> fman23: i havent installed ubuntu
[08:22] <thomedy> im a restart it am igoing to have to do that every time
[08:22] <thomedy> thats obnoxious
[08:22] <fman23> thomedy: you shouldnt have too, after u get past the rfkills once, it should be fine
[08:22] <ripthejacker> fman23: you know how to install ubuntu in command line :?
[08:22] <thomedy> i got bmy block again
[08:23] <thomedy> im working on it one sec please
[08:23] <nightcrow> grrrr, again!
[08:23] <nightcrow> :(
[08:23] <Unhammer> rhizmoe but what if there are several users logged in to xfce? how do I know which one is active?
[08:23] <fman23> ripthejacker: yeah like isntall the drivers? just do "sudo apt-get install fglrx"
[08:23] <thomedy> okay rfkill unblock all: restart
[08:24] <thomedy> lets see what happens
[08:24] <thomedy> my wife uses my machine sometimes is she goign to have to wicd-curses to get online
[08:24] <thomedy> or will it stay up once it has a connection
[08:24] <fman23> thomedy: was ur original problem that the built-in network manager couldnt connect properly?
[08:24] <thomedy> i checked out the man page and it says its fully  configurable
[08:24] <thomedy> i have no idea ata ll
[08:24] <thomedy> it was frustrating
[08:25] <fman23> atheros right?
[08:25] <thomedy> yeah
[08:25] <thomedy> the thing with me is i had to become a nerd to pay for my kids we are by nature artists she shuts down everytime i talk code
[08:25] <ripthejacker> fman23: using the live usb?
[08:25] <fman23> it is either the driver or the hardware at fault, and with all of the rfkills, im thinking the hardware could be at fault
[08:26] <StepNjump> reisio: I tar -xzf file.tar.gz into ~/temp.. in order to compile, do I just need to ~/temp/make ?
[08:26] <nightcrow> fman23: !!!!!
[08:26] <thomedy> what can i do
[08:26] <nightcrow> it works!!!!
[08:26] <nightcrow> :)
[08:26] <reisio> StepNjump: it probably comes with a readme/install file
[08:26] <fman23> ripthejacker: no boot into a shell on the original system without any livecd
[08:26] <fman23> nightcrow: brilliant, now im closer to sleep :D
[08:26] <thomedy> short of buying a new machine right now cuz im not at taht place my wife and i just moved to another state
[08:27] <nightcrow> fman23: thank you so much sir!!
[08:27] <nightcrow> :)
[08:27] <reisio> StepNjump: the usual generic process, simplified, is: configure, make, make install
[08:27] <fman23> thomedy: if you can get wicd-curses working, you might be able to make a startup script that does all of that for u
[08:27] <fman23> nightcrow: np
[08:27] <nightcrow> you have really helped alot, have a great night buddy
[08:27] <nightcrow> thank you
[08:27] <fman23> nightcrow: thats y i stay on this irc channel till 3 in the morning
[08:27] <rhizmoe> Unhammer: do other-logins keep ahole of :0.0? i wouldn't think so, but i'm a little out of my depth
[08:27] <fman23> nightcrow: help ppl, and i makes me feel smart
[08:27] <rhizmoe> ahole -> ahold
[08:27] <rhizmoe> lol
[08:28] <Unhammer> rhizmoe, sorry, they don't (I was confused)
[08:28] <Unhammer> so I guess I need to find both the username and DISPLAY variable
[08:28] <rhizmoe> that's in ps
[08:28] <Unhammer> of whichever one is "active"
[08:28] <thomedy> okay something is wrong because i can iwlist scan and get stuf but i cant see it in my wicd-curses
[08:28] <rhizmoe> first column of the command i pasted
[08:28] <Snowie> ok. so google is no help. how do i change the default applications in unity desktop?
[08:28] <nightcrow> fman23: you are smart, and i hope i can pay it forward
[08:28] <nightcrow> now i can help someone else
[08:28] <StepNjump> I don't see any reisio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/790271/
[08:28] <nightcrow> :)
[08:29] <nightcrow> you have shared the wealth - and i thank you
[08:29] <fman23> nightcrow: yep, thats the ubuntu spirit!
[08:29] <Unhammer> rhizmoe, yes, first column shows username. DISPLAY is not shown. But I don't know which one is active
[08:29] <nightcrow> :-D
[08:29] <nightcrow> slowly but surely
[08:29] <StepNjump> theres not even a configure file reisio
[08:30] <fman23> nightcrow: it makes me feel good helping others, and it is easy since i have run into most of the same problems that appear on this irc channel
[08:30] <nightcrow> thats great
[08:30] <nightcrow> its really nice of you buddy
[08:30] <fman23> nightcrow: although i must say, i still have far less problems than windows or mav
[08:30] <fman23> mac*
[08:30] <neeteex> Snowie: Use the pannel board (first icon at top), select your desired application, drag and drop the icon application to left bar.
[08:30] <nightcrow> and im sure all those that you have helped appreciate the time that you have dedicated to them.. including me
[08:31] <nightcrow> fman23: i dont use windows - im a mac/ubuntu boy
[08:31] <Snowie> neeteex: deluge is allready in the launcher. when i dbl click a trnt file however, transmission opens
[08:31] <King_Ozzy> ....
[08:31] <King_Ozzy> I'm sorry you feel that way, nightcrow
[08:32] <Snowie> i right clicked, and i can open it with deluge if i wish, but there is no "set as default"
[08:32] <fman23> thomedy: this wifi network is secured right?
[08:32] <thomedy> yeah
[08:32] <fman23> thomedy: with wep or wpa?
[08:32] <thomedy> im using the pass and everything
[08:32] <thomedy> wep is web access point i dont know what a wpa
[08:32] <thomedy> is
[08:32] <neeteex> Sorry Snowie, I can't help
[08:32] <fman23> thomedy: wpa is very tricky from command line, i have never been able to get it
[08:33] <thomedy> it has something to do with wpa_supplican
[08:33] <Snowie> neeteex: no worries. on ubuntu site now seeing if they have it
[08:33] <thomedy> it was working 3 days ago
[08:33] <fman23> thomedy: when was this wifi network created?
[08:33] <thomedy> i have been going in circles
[08:33] <StepNjump> reisio: did you have a chance to look at my ls cout?
[08:34] <thomedy> im not sure entirely what your asking but i installed 11.10 either last night or this morning and i just got to this network about 10 last night
[08:34] <thomedy> so 4 or 5 hours ago
[08:34] <fman23> im thinking ur wifi network is wpa secured, and i have never been able to get wpa_supplicant working for me from command line
[08:34] <fman23> wicd however takes care of all of that
[08:35] <ripthejacker> fman23: but i dont have any system installed i want to install ubuntu
[08:35] <Glacia> hello, i am running 11.04 natty and my update manager is not telling me that i can update to 11.10
[08:35] <thomedy> okay.. i really dont want to buy a new machine right now... i can get the wicd screen up
[08:35] <fman23> ripthejacker: oh, and u dont have a graphical interface on the livecd?
[08:35] <thomedy> and it just doesn't find the network
[08:36] <ripthejacker> fman23: no
[08:36] <fman23> thomedy: see if u can tinker with it or something, i cant really help you here, and wpa is a pain to do from command line.
[08:36] <fman23> thomedy: see if u can look through the wicd settings
[08:36] <reisio> StepNjump: there are binaries (debs for Ubuntu) here: http://qt-apps.org/content/show.php/Flashrip?content=125041
[08:36] <thomedy> okay your awesome
[08:36] <thomedy> i have learned alot
[08:36] <thomedy> i really appreciate it
[08:38] <Glacia> can any one assist me?
[08:38] <reisio> not without knowing what you need assistance with
[08:38] <StepNjump> yes thanks reisio... I found that too now! Too bad, I wanted to compile from scratch for the first time.... reisio, in the future, is there an easy way to create a .deb package using a binary package?
[08:38] <fman23> brb
[08:38] <thomedy> okay im going to come back to this later
[08:38] <Glacia> hello, i am running 11.04 natty and my update manager is not telling me that i can update to 11.10, whats wrong
[08:38] <reisio> StepNjump: it's somewhat involved
[08:38] <thomedy> i have a project i have been building and this has been a huge hiccup
[08:39] <thomedy> b t w.. thats a new acronym for back to work you guys can use it if you want
[08:39] <StepNjump> ok reisio.. np then... thanks for your help. I will install from the .deb package
[08:39] <reisio> StepNjump: ##C++ can explain how to compile a terrible application with no make file, though
[08:39] <Glacia> btw is and always will be by the way
[08:40] <reisio> Glacia: what makes you think it should tell you that you can update to .10
[08:41] <thomedy> oh yeah
[08:41] <StepNjump> reisio, you mean the ##C++ @ irc ?
[08:41] <thomedy> i got it
[08:41] <thomedy> h;alksdjf;ads
[08:41] <thomedy> i had the network manager running again
[08:41] <reisio> StepNjump: yup
[08:41] <thomedy> okay ... it took for ever but im good now
[08:41] <Glacia> because thats what the ubuntu site said to do to update from 11.04
[08:41] <fman23> Oh, yeah that'll do it
[08:41] <thomedy> man taht feels good
[08:41] <fman23> Well I'm glad you got this working
[08:41] <thomedy> i didn't realize it was on
[08:42] <thomedy> so i just checked
[08:42] <thomedy> and its obtaining ip righ now
[08:42] <ripthejacker> fman23: no gui in the live cd
[08:42] <thomedy> it is kinda taking along time thought
[08:42] <thomedy> though
[08:42] <Unhammer> rhizmoe, figured it out: ck-list-sessions shows all that stuff in a completely non-hacky way :)
[08:42] <Unhammer> wonderful command
[08:42] <fman23> ripthejacker: y not? Is it the lack of drivers?
[08:43] <ripthejacker> fman23: yes
[08:43] <thomedy> i think i just found out why all those other commands werent working
[08:43] <ripthejacker> fman23: the proprietary drivers work cuz i have installed it sometime ago by removing my card and then installing drivers
[08:43] <thomedy> because i read that with the network manager on you cant configure your connection manually
[08:43] <thomedy> i now see that i do have dhcp and my dhclient command should have owrked
[08:43] <thomedy> because i know that
[08:43] <ripthejacker> fman23: but i have to get ubuntu installed before installing the drivers
[08:44] <ripthejacker> and im not removing the card this time
[08:44] <Glacia> reisio, how else (without a cd drive or usb stick) can i update to 11.10
[08:44] <Snowie> lol, for those interested, the answer is simple. To set the default program when you open a file, just right click and choose the program. the reason that there is no "set as default" is because Ubuntu makes the safe assumption that you want it to be the default, and sets if for you anyway.
[08:44] <fman23> ripthejacker: well that is not good, are you comfortable installing from command line?
[08:44] <ripthejacker> i would rather spend time defragmenting and scanning viruses in windows :(
[08:44] <reisio> Glacia: you sure it didn't say to go into your package manager preferences and change something first? :)
[08:44] <ripthejacker> fman23: yes i can try installing from command line
[08:45] <puff_> nytol
[08:45] <Glacia> reisio, i did that.... i thought brb
[08:45] <ripthejacker> fman23:you know how to access cli installation?
[08:46] <fman23> ripthejacker: you could always try an Ubuntu derivative that comes with the proprietary drivers
[08:46] <Glacia> yes normal releases is selected
[08:46] <fman23> Idk if there is cli ubiquity
[08:47] <fman23> Brb, I'll check
[08:48] <StepNjump> reisio: have you ever tried this package yourself?
[08:48] <abhinavmehta> how to take snapshot of operating system..?
[08:49] <Glacia> reisio, the normal releases is selected as per instructions
[08:49] <thomedy> okay fman i have my network and i have put in the key but it isnt connecting its saying it is obtaining the ip for ever
[08:49] <abhinavmehta> I mean, I want to keep a track what are all the files present in my os right now…and what are the cahgnes…and in which file the changes were happened..after a certain time.
[08:49] <abhinavmehta> any idea…anyone..?
[08:50] <fman23> ripthejacker: I can't find it right now but if you have a constant internet connection on the target computer, I can use the netinstall ISP
[08:50] <fman23> Iso*
[08:50] <fman23> Dang autocorrect
[08:51] <fman23> thomedy: try leaving wicd and run dhclient manually
[08:52] <ripthejacker> fman23: no its pppoe connection
[08:52] <thomedy> oaky i can do that... sudo dhclient wlan0
[08:52] <thomedy> right
[08:52] <fman23> Yeah
[08:53] <abhinavmehta> no one with os-snapshot answer..? :(
[08:53] <dean[w]> I've just done a fresh install of 11.10 ubuntu and if i press ctrl + g or do other things on the command line it makes an annoying sound
[08:53] <dean[w]> how can i disable this
[08:53] <doUob> os snapshot?
[08:53] <doUob> like a screen capture?
[08:53] <abhinavmehta> no..
[08:53] <abhinavmehta> like a git
[08:54] <doUob> oh, oops
[08:54] <clone> Like System monitor!!
[08:54] <doUob> I don't understand what git is
[08:54] <fman23> ripthejacker: try sudo apt-get install fglrx then startx
[08:54] <Bunie> git is similar to svn, if you know what svn is
[08:54] <ripthejacker> abhinavmehta: there was somethign called draksnapshot but that is only for mandriva i suppose
[08:54] <doUob> I've pasted commands into terminal that had git in it
[08:54] <abhinavmehta> like…if I take a snapshot now…than I should be able to compare the entire file-ssytem..at some other day.
[08:55] <abhinavmehta> ripthejacker: ok
[08:55] <doUob> oh, really?  nice...
[08:55] <abhinavmehta> on debian based os..?
[08:55] <ripthejacker> fman23: i tried to install in the live usb but it asks for reboot after driver install and its gone after reboot
[08:56] <fman23> Don't reboot, just startx
[08:56] <Bunie> ripthejacker: Got windows installed?
[08:56] <doUob> is it persistent?
[08:56] <fman23> It is only cli right?
[08:56] <Bunie> You can use LiLi USB to easily create a Persistant USB
[08:56] <Bunie> so changes stay after reboot
[08:56] <ripthejacker> Bunie: yes im online on windows :(
[08:56] <ripthejacker> something i was learning to hate
[08:56] <Bunie> Try LiLi USB
[08:56] <ripthejacker> but beggining to love
[08:57] <thomedy> okay i dont know what to do im going to wire up and get a little of my paid work done and go to bed
[08:57] <Bunie> I <3 Windows. :P But i want to learn Linux
[08:57] <thomedy> im really confused
[08:57] <reisio> unetbootin also does persistent
[08:57] <ripthejacker> Bunie: i have tri lili before
[08:57] <ripthejacker> same result
[08:58] <Bunie> Ive never used that, but lili with persistant cache is awesome
[08:58] <Bunie> pretty much a one click install
[08:58] <doUob> unetbootin does persistent?
[08:58] <fman23> ripthejacker: try it with persistent, but for now, I need sleep
[08:59] <fman23> doUob: yes
[08:59] <ripthejacker> Bunie: oh yeah i tried mandriva install with lili which doesnt support persistent cache should try ubuntu thanks for the tip
[08:59] <ripthejacker> thanks a lot fman23
[08:59] <ripthejacker> :)
[08:59] <doUob> am I missing it?  I don't see any spot where you can move a slider or specify how much
[09:00] <pnorman> doUob: It's there as an option - I think at the bottom of a window, but not sure
[09:00] <Bunie> dumont: If ur on Windows use LiLi lols
[09:01] <reisio> doUob: http://sourceforge.net/dbimage.php?id=300347
[09:01] <wgo> I've unintentionally (and undesirably) managed to get my terminal fixed above everything and I can't send it back other than minimise it. Even when I right click over terminal, the context menu appears behind it.
[09:01] <reisio> doUob: second to last "line"
[09:01] <reisio> or row
[09:03] <WilliamHerry> hi
[09:03] <reisio> hi
[09:03] <doUob> reisio: thx
[09:07] <wgo> It's bug -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/865031
[09:08] <html> how do i update firefox?
[09:08] <ubuntu> some one help me about installing ubuntu?
[09:08] <doUob> package manager?
[09:08] <doUob> I'm on mint though
[09:09] <Bunie> html: Depends how its installed, run system updates or try updating thru the package manager
[09:09] <doUob> what do you need help with about it>
[09:09] <html> and what else ?
[09:09] <Bunie> html: All else fails try "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get upgrade" lols
[09:09] <ubuntu> some one help me about my ubuntu installing
[09:09] <doUob> what's the difference between sys update and package manager?
[09:10] <doUob> don't they both do the same?
[09:10] <Bunie> doUob: i'm new to linux/ubuntu :3 im actually curious myself.
[09:10] <Fudge> ubuntu  can you be more specific
[09:10] <doUob> yeah, me too now.  I kinda assumed earlier
[09:11] <ubuntu> Fudge: i installed ubuntu 11.10 but i can't load it when the computer start
[09:11] <html> well i know i can help,, but just just hang in there,, i must update my brower-web
[09:11] <Bunie> ubuntu: you likely need to change your boot settings in your bios
[09:11] <Fudge> ubuntu  you dont get grub menu ?
[09:12] <Bunie> ubuntu: Wait you installed it? how? Wubi?
[09:12] <ubuntu> Fudge: i have windows 7 and windows xp intalled on one hard and i installed ubunto on another hard not another partion
[09:12] <Bunie> oh its not the master hard drive so its not booting
[09:12] <Fudge> you need to choose that hard drive to boot from then
[09:12] <Bunie> its not reading its boot sectors.
[09:12] <Bunie> or whatevs :3
[09:13] <ubuntu> Fudge: and when i start and boot from ubunti hard i still get the screen to choose between 7 and xp only
[09:13] <Fudge> you cuold swap the drives around internally so ubuntu grub can also boot your windows partitions
[09:13] <html> wait wait?... that really advanced
[09:13] <Fudge> sounds like it Bunie
[09:13] <ubuntu> Fudge: how?
[09:14] <Fudge> if its beyond you to swap the cables around, look into if your computer has an f12 or f8 boot media selection to choose the hard drive that you have ubutnu installed upon
[09:14] <ubuntu> Bunie: i just cant see ubunti in the load screen not matter which hard i boot first
[09:14] <metaspike> ubuntu, in bios, set the ubuntu partition to first boot device, if that doesn't work, boot a live cd then in terminal re-install grub eg. sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[09:14] <Fudge> ubuntu  can you pull the power on the windows drive to isolate your ubuntu to see if it gives you booting issues
[09:14] <html> tell me how that goes cuz i like to do the 1 hdd to os , then another on a other one
[09:14] <Fudge> when the computer is powered off of course
[09:15] <Fudge> html  if your primary drive is ubuntu grub-pc will detect other operating systems and put the entries into the boot menu
[09:15] <Bunie> ubuntu: Unplug the windows hard drive
[09:15] <ubuntu> Bunie: then?
[09:16] <Bunie> ubuntu: Then turn it on and see what happens
[09:16] <ubuntu> Bunie: k give me munite
[09:16] <Fudge> ubuntu  were there any errors during the install of ubuntu
[09:16] <ubuntu> Fudge: no not at all
[09:16] <Fudge> ok talk to you in a min then
[09:16] <Bunie> Fudge: im pretty sure he just installed ubuntu to his slave drive and its not going to read the boot from it, its going to read the boot from the master drive
[09:16] <sere> anyone know a good volume app for the taskbar...i use fluxbox
[09:17] <doUob> but in the bios, can't you specify which drive to boot?  regardless of master/s;ave
[09:18] <Fudge> Bunie  if he chooses to boot off the slave drive it will read the boot sector on that drive though
[09:18] <Fudge> being sdb e.g
[09:18] <Fudge> i imagine loL
[09:18] <wookienz> hello, i have ocelet running. I upgraded the ati driver and now the gdm doesnt work. Presently i am working from a terminal sessiosn away from computer trying to fix it. What would i see in ps aux to let me know that gdm is working correctly?
[09:18] <mkanyicy> doUob, i dont think u can do that
[09:18] <reisio> sere: 'volumeicon'?
[09:19] <sere> reisio, yes sir
[09:19] <Fudge> wookienz  isnt lightdm the default desktop manager
[09:19] <doUob> mkanyicy: really?  good to know.  thx
[09:19] <wookienz> Fudge: could be, i just assumed it was gdm
[09:20] <Fudge> wookienz  its not from oneiric sudo restart lightdm
[09:20] <Fudge> gdm is still available how ever
[09:20] <ajah> how to remove on startup network configuration
[09:20] <Fudge> if that is your dm of choice wookienz
[09:20] <reisio> sere: 'volumeicon'
[09:20] <Fudge> ajah  you do not wish to get assigned dhcp address?
[09:21] <wookienz> pass, i use the default! i thought that was unity, or am i talking about two different things?
[09:21] <Fudge> unity is the default desktop wookienz , either 2d or 3d depending on your hardware capabilities but lightdm is the desktop manager where you go in
[09:21] <Fudge> log in i mean
[09:21] <wookienz> i see.
[09:22] <Fudge> wookienz  did sudo restart lightdm bring your log in screen up as expected?
[09:22] <ajah> Fudge, is this what is doing waiting for dynamic address on eth0?
[09:22] <reisio> sere: or volumeicon-alsa as Ubuntu calls it
[09:22] <wookienz> scott@lianli:~$ sudo restart lightdm, restart: Unknown instance:
[09:23] <Fudge> ajah  is it possible that your problem actually is that you can not get assigned an ip, therefore it is hanging?
[09:23] <ajah> Fudge, how to disable this thing
[09:23] <reisio> wookienz: forgot 'service'
[09:23] <Fudge> wookienz  mm, try sudo service lightdm restart then
[09:23] <ajah> Fudge, if u tell me which script is in /etc/init.d/
[09:23] <ajah> Fudge,  i would be glad
[09:24] <wookienz> Fudge: same.
[09:24] <Fudge> ajah  perhaps look at /etc/network/interfaces and comment auto eth0 dhcp
[09:24] <Fudge> those two lines
[09:24] <wookienz> i think the ati prop. driver scewed it all up as i dont get to log in screen, just ubuntu logo and nothign else.
[09:24] <Fudge> wookienz  dpkg -l | grep lightdm
[09:25] <Fudge> wookienz  i am asuming you are usuing ubuntu, not xubuntu lubuntu kubuntu by the way
[09:25] <wookienz> Fudge: is installed.
[09:25] <wookienz> yes
[09:25] <Fudge> wookienz  there should be an init script in /etc/init.d sh /etc/init.d/lightdm restart for example
[09:25] <Fudge> donno why the upstart job isnt working for you though
[09:26] <Fudge> my ps aux | grep lightdm returns things like tty7     Ss+  09:31   7:37 /usr/bin/X :0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -nolisten tcp vt7 -novtswitch -background none
[09:27] <metaspike> does anyone have a good guide for hacking the snot out of adobe flash player
[09:27] <wookienz> ok, thanks ill have a look
[09:27] <Fudge> sorry wookienz  not seeming to be much help to you dude
[09:27] <ajah> Fudge, i don`t have such line in this file
[09:28] <Fudge> ajah  the init script is /etc/init.d/networking i think but i wouldnt want to disable mine :D
[09:29] <Fudge> you prob could with update-rc.d networking remove i think
[09:29] <ajah> Fudge, i disable it with now success
[09:29] <Fudge> to re-enable update-rc.d networking defaults
[09:29] <soee> hi, i cant install any software because in console i have this error: debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process:
[09:29] <soee> any idea how can i fox this?
[09:29] <Fudge> ajah  is eth0 the only interface other than lo0
[09:30] <wookienz> bbs
[09:30] <ajah> Fudge, nope
[09:30] <metaspike> soee, even if you reboot?
[09:30] <soee> metaspike, yes
[09:30] <Fudge> soee  probably something has access to it like a package manager
[09:30] <soee> Fudge, dont think so
[09:30] <ajah> Fudge, do we talk on the configuration before i log in or something else?
[09:30] <Fudge> dpkg --configure -a soee , does that do anything?
[09:31] <Fudge> ajah  i was just wondering if you are perhaps trying to get an ip address from the wrong card, as in if you have more than one network card available
[09:31] <html> how do i update firefox?
[09:31] <soee> Fudge, same errors for man-db and opera packages
[09:32] <reisio> html: don't you get notices about software updates from time to time?
[09:32] <Fudge> html  you may be able to google for ppa mozillateam repos
[09:32] <ajah> Fudge, i really don`t need to worry about this on previous version of ubuntu there were no such thing u just need to disable it
[09:32] <Fudge> soee  um try aptitude reinstall those two pacakges?
[09:33] <html> no, and no
[09:33] <Fudge> ajah  disable the init script then with the above update-rc.d networking remove command
[09:33] <Bunie> html: did you try what i said?
[09:33] <Fudge> html  mozillateam on launchpad have repositories for daily snapshots if thats what you want
[09:34] <Bunie> html: yeah, and in my experience those snapshops are actually pretty stable
[09:34] <soee> Fudge, i cant, same error allt he time, E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:34] <Bunie> html: Plus you get to see firefox 12 MONTHS before anyone else
[09:35] <ajah> Fudge, sudo update-rc.d networking remove -f
[09:35] <ajah> update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/networking exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force)
[09:36] <avelon> as a bloody beginner - it was so easy to install. thxs ...
[09:36] <Fudge> html  apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozillateam-daily/ppa will add daily repository for firefox and thunderbird, as sudo. apt-get update and upgrade should pull them in
[09:36] <Fudge> oh yeah ajah  update-rc.d -f networking remove sorry
[09:36] <doUob> it's been fun, I'm off to bed
[09:37] <doUob> I'm starting to snooze
[09:37] <Fudge> its only 8pm doUob
[09:37] <Fudge> :p
[09:37] <Bunie> Fudge: dont forget apt-get firefox-trunk
[09:37] <Fudge> thanks Bunie  :$
[09:37] <doUob> it's almost 5am here
[09:37] <Fudge> oh that was this morning doUob
[09:37] <Guest37300> greetinx 2 all
[09:38] <doUob> but I'll see you all around, thanks for the knowledge.  ;)
[09:38] <Fudge> cheers doUob  hi Guest37300
[09:38] <Bunie> yeah i should likely get some sleep as well. see you guys later
[09:39] <Fudge> have a good one Bunie
[09:39] <ubuntu> Fudge: i'm back
[09:39] <Fudge> with success ubuntu
[09:39] <avelon> this one was chating in mIRC since 2000. Are here some channels in German?
[09:39] <ubuntu> Fudge: i disconnect windows hard and run the ybuntu hard only but didnt work
[09:39] <vincenzin> ciao
[09:40] <vincenzin> !list
[09:40] <ubuntu> Fudge: got that msg remove disks or other media
[09:40] <Guest23191> kankan
[09:40] <llutz> !de | avelon
[09:40] <ubuntu> Fudge: reboot and select proper boot device
[09:40] <avelon> thxs for information ...
[09:40] <reisio> avelon: /msg alis list *de
[09:40] <Fudge> ubuntu  may i suggest the drive you want to be ubuntu you use as your first drive and then reinstall oneiric again
[09:40] <Fudge> will probably be faster for you
[09:41] <metaspike> ... you could just reinstall grub from the live cd...
[09:41] <ubuntu> Fudge: what do you mean?
[09:42] <metaspike> like i said earlier, but with the windows drive disconnected it wont install the chainloader
[09:42] <Fudge> metaspike  as in binding dev proc chrooting etc?
[09:42] <ubuntu> Fudge: what do you mean
[09:42] <paulsomebody> Hello, can anyone tell me where does Unity store its application launchers?
[09:43] <metaspike> nah as in connect both drives, run: sudo grub-install /dev/sda - assuming sda is the ubuntu drive.
[09:43] <Fudge> ah yeah  true
[09:43] <MeGa-> Hi
[09:43] <MeGa-> One question
[09:43] <MeGa-> in kviRC how can i do that it don't download the avatars when i join a channel?
[09:43] <Fudge> metaspike  im not sure ubuntu  has a grasp on the drive configuration
[09:43] <MeGa-> *disable
[09:44] <Basso> paulsomebody, what do you mean by application launchers?
[09:44] <ubuntu> so guys what to do?
[09:44] <html> Fudge,  Error reading https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~ubuntu-mozillateam-daily/+archive/ppa: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
[09:44] <paulsomebody> Basso: Launchers. The .desktop files.
[09:45] <Fudge> paulsomebody  do you mean /usr/share/applications/
[09:45] <paulsomebody> Fudge: Perhaps. I'll check now.
[09:45] <Fudge> html  google ppa mozillateam daily mate
[09:45] <Basso> paulsomebody, i think unity looks for launchers, not stores them :3
[09:46] <html> Fudge,  ohhhh
[09:46] <html> ok
[09:46] <paulsomebody> Basso: Okay, I do not insist.
[09:46] <paulsomebody> Fudge: Yes, that is what I was looking for. Thanks.
[09:50] <metaspike> ubuntu, fix your drives physically and in bios, if you cant figure out 11.x , install 10.04 or learn how to do things the hard way.
[09:51] <kevinyoung> FUCK
[09:51] <Fudge> kevinyoung  perhaps try to refrain from that laguage
[09:51] <Fudge> language
[09:52] <wookienz> guys, have been trying to remove fglrx after an upgrade to the prop. ati driver with no luck have tried ubuntu suggested purge and apt-get but it still remains loaded. any ideas?
[09:53] <metaspike> ubuntu a manual fix would go something like this "cfdisk for device label, grub-install /dev/<devicelabel>, manually check /boot and reboot"
[09:53] <kevinyoung> Fudge: sorry there is
[09:53] <kevinyoung> sb talk it
[09:53] <Fudge> kevinyoung  i dont understand your question
[09:53] <metaspike> wookie, sudo apt-get purge fglrx-driver-current && sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:54] <metaspike> wookienz, ^
[09:54] <wookienz> E: Unable to locate package fglrx-driver-current
[09:54] <kevinyoung> Fudge: there is foolish talked about it not me its my friend
[09:55] <Fudge> kevinyoung  unfortunately for you then if an op decides to ban you, you wont have further oppotunities to talk
[09:55] <wookienz> metaspike: do i need to another no proprietry driver?
[09:55] <ubuntu> metaspike: i'm new to ubuntu my first use thats why i ask for help
[09:56] <NimeshNeema> which directory store user configuration data for google-chrome-stable
[09:56] <NimeshNeema> ?
[09:56] <kevinyoung> Fudge:  ok i won't
[09:56] <Fudge> tks
[09:56] <mang0> !wubi > mang0
[09:59] <corden> hello guys
[10:00] <corden> just want to ask if there is a script or application that can read bandwidth and have alarm
[10:00] <corden> tnx
[10:01] <Fudge> not sure about alarm but somethign that popped up from an apt-cache search corden  is awn-applet-bandwidth-monitor - Display information from network
[10:02] <ubuntu> Fudge: what you suggest i do about my problem?
[10:02] <corden> tnx Fudge
[10:02] <Fudge> ubuntu  boot to the live cd as metaspike  suggested and reinstall grub
[10:02] <crazybrain> how to install gnome 3.4 in Ubuntu????
[10:02] <Fudge> gd luck corden
[10:03] <ubuntu> Fudge: i'm trying it from usb right now
[10:03] <ubuntu> Fudge: so whats next
[10:03] <Fudge> ubuntu  your ubuntu you installed from is on a usb stick?
[10:03] <ubuntu> Fudge: yes
[10:04] <ubuntu> Fudge: i download iso file and make it on usb stick
[10:04] <Fudge> identify the device sda, sdb etc which is the ubuntu drive and sudo grub-install /dev/sda if its the sda device as metaspike  said earlier, scroll up a bit
[10:04] <ubuntu> Fudge: i install it from the usb stick and now trying it from the usb stick
[10:05] <crazybrain> hellloooooooooooooooooooooooOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! anybody there?????????/
[10:05] <Fudge> crazybrain  1300+
[10:05] <ubuntu> Fudge: how to identify the dvice sda?
[10:05] <crazybrain> Fudge listen to me
[10:05] <Fudge> sure crazybrain  ask your question
[10:05] <crazybrain> i want to install gnome 3.4 in my ubuntu??
[10:05] <Fudge> ubuntu  mount the drives from your unity launcher and see which one is windows and which is ubuntu
[10:06] <metaspike> sorry wookienz , sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-all  - will ensure you have all the xorg drivers, incase you cant figure out exactlty what you need
[10:06] <Fudge> oh crazybrain  i donno sorry, may help to state your ubuntu version also
[10:06] <ubuntu> Fudge: how can i run treminal in 11.10
[10:06] <crazybrain> its 11.10
[10:07] <metaspike> crazybrain, in terminal. sudo apt-get install gnome -
[10:07] <Fudge> ubuntu  control alt T or hit super key and type in gnome-terminal
[10:08] <ubuntu> Fudge: FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive
[10:08] <ubuntu>                           Press any key to exit cfdisk
[10:08] <Fudge> ubuntu  i do not know why you were in cfdisk
[10:08] <wookienz> metaspike: thanks
[10:09] <ubuntu> to see what disk it ubuntu
[10:09] <ubuntu> Fudge: to see what disk it ubuntu
[10:09] <Mechdave> ubuntu, not a good idea to be playing with cfdisk... it can break things really quick
[10:10] <Mechdave> ubuntu, much easier to type mount into the terminal
[10:11] <metaspike> yes indeed
[10:15] <ubuntu> Mechdave: i dont understand any thing of what appear from command mount
[10:16] <NimeshNeema> where's the google-chrome user configuration directory ???
[10:16] <Fudge> metaspike  i thought that the drives would be in unity panel
[10:17] <rabenauge> They both do actually the very same, you are right, doUob.
[10:17] <Mechdave> ubuntu, you are looking for what hard drives ubuntu is installed on yes?
[10:17] <ubuntu> Mechdave: true
[10:19] <Mechdave> ubuntu, no worries, are you familiar with the partition naming scheme in Ubuntu?
[10:19] <ubuntu> Mechdave: it's my first time on ubuntu
[10:19] <Mechdave> ubuntu, eg: /dev/sda1 will be the primary master hard drive first partition
[10:19] <rabenauge> NimeshNeema: You are looking for "~/.config/chromium" ?
[10:20] <ubuntu> Mechdave: well i got 2 sata so theres no master and slave
[10:20] <ubuntu> Mechdave: i guess ubuntu were dev/sda4 but i want to get sure
[10:21] <metaspike> ubuntu.. /dev/sdaX type ntfs - this is your windows drive
[10:22] <ubuntu> Mechdave: ok
[10:22] <Mechdave> ubuntu, ok, usually mount will report a line like this if /dev/sda4 is your root partition --> /dev/sda4 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro,commit=0)
[10:22] <metaspike>  /dev/sdaX type ext3 or ext4 whatever, this a linux parition
[10:22] <ubuntu> Mechdave: ok i got you but where can i find that line
[10:23] <metaspike> with "mount"
[10:23] <Mechdave> that will be in the output of mount when you run mount in gnome-terminal
[10:25] <Mechdave> ubuntu, have a read of this for some background --> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/device-names.html
[10:26] <html> Fudge, ?
[10:27] <ubuntu> Mechdave: is there a site where i can paste text and give you the link
[10:27] <iceroot> !paste | ubuntu
[10:28] <ubuntu> Mechdave: http://paste.ubuntu.com/790348/
[10:28] <NimeshNeema> rabenauge: yes sir !!!
[10:29] <Fudge> html  sup
[10:29] <Mechdave> ubuntu, what are you running?
[10:32] <ubuntu> Mechdave: i run ubuntu from usb stick
[10:32] <Fudge> Mechdave  he has oneiric trying to fix grub with two hard drives where one has win 7 and xp on it
[10:32] <Mechdave> ubuntu, Aha... That explains it...
[10:33] <ubuntu> Mechdave: can you pm me please
[10:33] <Mechdave> ubuntu, what has happened? Can you fill me in a bit?
[10:33] <ubuntu> Mechdave: what do you mean
[10:33] <Mechdave> ubuntu, I prefer to help people in open forum so they can chip in with ideas as well :)
[10:33] <Fudge> Mechdave  he is identifying which is his ubuntu drive to grub-install
[10:33] <ubuntu> Mechdave: i installed ubuntu 11.10 but i can load it from the load screen
[10:34] <ubuntu> Mechdave: so right now i have to run it from usb stick to find solution for my problem
[10:34] <asshole> wow..
[10:34] <Mechdave> ubuntu, Ah, ok
[10:34] <Guest37926> haha
[10:34] <vivekimsit> I want to read a file in a window system from my ubuntu using one script .. so, any idea?
[10:35] <Guest37926> it's my first time to install Linux
[10:35] <Guest37926> not familiar with this yet.
[10:35] <ubuntu> Mechdave: any help?
[10:36] <ubuntu> what to do guyd
[10:36] <Mechdave> ubuntu, so what you are running currently is a live version.... Right now I know what is going on a little more, what happens when you try to boot 11.10 from hard drive?
[10:36] <ubuntu> Mechdave: nothing happen i just get option to load windows 7 and xp not ubuntu
[10:36] <Guest37926> wooo
[10:36] <Fudge> Mechdave  from what he said before if it helps, when choosing the media for that drive it just said please take out any media etc and reboot, we asked him to boot live identify the ubuntu drive and grub-install to it
[10:36] <ubuntu> Mechdave: and i dont matter which hard i boot from it still give me the option fow windows 7 and xp only
[10:37] <Mechdave> ubuntu, seems like grub didn't find the ubuntu install
[10:37] <Guest37926> god damn it. doesn't Xubuntu support extending monitor?
[10:38] <ubuntu> Mechdave: i dont know how that happen although i install ubuntu yesterday
[10:38] <Mechdave> ubuntu, is the grub screen coming up in the start?
[10:38] <Mechdave> ubuntu, or the windows boot manager?
[10:39] <gbaal> join #sonar
[10:39] <ubuntu> Mechdave: windows boot manager only
[10:39] <debian_noob> can anyone help me with data recovery for an msdos partition?
[10:40] <metaspike> debian_noob, there's testdisk
[10:40] <Mechdave> ubuntu, ok now in gnome-terminal type sudo fdisk -l
[10:40] <Mechdave> ubuntu, this will list all the partitions and drives on your computer.
[10:40] <debian_noob> metaspike, yeah i know
[10:40] <debian_noob> i used it
[10:41] <debian_noob> but what exactly do i do in it?
[10:41] <ubuntu> Mechdave: ok then?
[10:41] <debian_noob> and what about dosfsck?
[10:41] <Mechdave> ubuntu, pastebin the result
[10:41] <JoFo> Hello
[10:41] <ubuntu> !paste
[10:41] <metaspike> ubuntu, actually- why not  -   mount | pastebinit  - and give us the link
[10:41] <ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/790356/
[10:42] <ubuntu> metaspike: i did that already
[10:42] <JoFo> I’ve tried eyed3. The man page works but the command itself is unavailable. What could be the reason ?
[10:42] <Mechdave> ubuntu, /dev/sda2 is your root partition
[10:43] <ubuntu> Mechdave: yes and
[10:43] <metaspike> ubuntu, you said you where keeping your OS's seperate, from what I can tell sda is a mess, no wonder it didnt work
[10:44] <Fudge> lol
[10:44] <Mechdave> ubuntu, when you installed ubuntu did you install grub on the master boot record or on the start of /dev/sda2?
[10:44] <metaspike> i also have to laugh now or ill cry
[10:44] <ubuntu> metaspike: it's sepearte windows installed on hard disk and ubuntu on different harddisk
[10:45] <ubuntu> Mechdave: i dont know what is grub is just load the usb stick and choosed install ubuntu along with windows 7 then then choose the other hard disk and install it
[10:45] <ubuntu> Mechdave: later when it ask for rebbot nothing happen like ubuntu dosnt exist
[10:46] <html> Fudge,  thanks
[10:46] <debian_noob> metaspike, dosfsck doesnt work
[10:46] <Mechdave> ubuntu, you need to install grub onto the MBR
[10:46] <ubuntu> Mechdave: how to do that?
[10:47] <Mechdave> ubuntu, just a second, I am looking for the docs :)
[10:48] <ubuntu> Mechdave:  ok but make sure to not make me lose my windows 7 and xp
[10:48] <debian_noob> ubuntu, 7 and XP both?
[10:48] <Mechdave> ubuntu, there is no way I will do that :)
[10:48] <draco_> coucou
[10:49] <ubuntu> Mechdave: so if do that grub i'll lose my 7 and xp OS?
[10:49] <Fudge> oh html  my pleasure
[10:49] <Mechdave> ubuntu, usually grub will detect the other OS's and play nice
[10:49] <ubuntu> Mechdave: cool i'm waiting for you
[10:50] <MohammadAleppo> السلام عليكم هل يوجد أحد عربي هنا ؟
[10:50] <Fudge> ubuntu  absolute worse grub being screwed up would jsut prevent you at firrst from booting to windows, not kill the OS
[10:51] <metaspike> ubuntu, this is my last suggestion to you. copy your things from sda to sdb, then remove the sda parition, then re initialize the standard install
[10:51] <cosmic> Help
[10:51] <cosmic> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/burg-theme-radiance_0.5.0-1_all.deb: trying to overwrite '/boot/burg/themes/radiance/theme', which is also in package burg-themes 1.98+20100623-2
[10:53] <ubuntu> metaspike: i don want to install ubuntu on the same harddisk with windows
[10:53] <almoxarife> cosmic: you added a ppa? before this happened?
[10:53] <bandabardo> hi hi
[10:53] <Mechdave> ubuntu, see here at point 12 --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[10:54] <bandabardo> glad to see you
[10:54] <ovidius> Where do I file bugs for misleading information on www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download ? The information leads many users to believe that they could boot the USB key on a Mac.
[10:54] <Mechdave> ubuntu, that should walk you through the re install
[10:55] <iceroot> ovidius: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content/+filebug
[10:56] <Gentoo64> ovidius: it does say "create" not boot
[10:57] <ripper17> Hi all - my syslog says it can't create dhclient.eth0.leases in /var/lib/dhcp3 - which is correct, because in ubuntu server, this directory doesn't exist. Where can I change the config, that it tries to store the lease file somewhere else?
[10:57] <hypeBoy> how can i change desktop icon size, i am using ubuntu 11.10
[10:58] <ovidius> iceroot: thanks
[10:59] <ovidius> gentoo64: yes, but it should explicitly say: "but it does not boot on a mac". it is just misleading this way.
[10:59] <ubuntu> Mechdave: where to get the boot repair
[10:59] <Flannel> ovidius: It will boot on a mac.
[11:01] <cosmic> almoxarife  yes
[11:01] <cosmic> almoxarife: yes
[11:02] <Mechdave> ubuntu, you might be better off trying the Copy LiveCD Files option
[11:02] <almoxarife> cosmic: the ppa is breaking the base system
[11:02] <ovidius> flannel: have you tried? it does not on my mac. the forums faqs says it will not boot.
[11:02] <ubuntu> Mechdave: how?
[11:02] <Flannel> ovidius: No, I don't own a mac.  But the documentation I've seen indicates it will.
[11:03] <Flannel> ovidius: Could be outdated of course, either way, file the bug, someone will be able to verify/correct/whatever.
[11:03] <JoFo> I found the solution: the package name is eyed3 but the command name is eyeD3.
[11:04] <Mechdave> ubuntu, it is terminal based commands.
[11:05] <Jithu> i have problem in ubuntu wifi driver ; actually Broadcom B43 wireless driver installed my laptop ;
[11:05] <Mechdave> ubuntu, read it all carefully and follow the instructions carefully. You should be able to fix your problem
[11:05] <almoxarife> ovidius: http://www.ubuntu.com/contact-us <-- various methods to make your point clear to the powers that be
[11:05] <who_me> guys, is it me or there still isn't an update to firefox 9.0.1 for oneiric ?
[11:05] <Flannel> a bug report against ubuntu-website is the best method
[11:05] <ubuntu> Mechdave: i think this is what i need Run the grub-install command as described below. This will reinstall the GRUB 2 files on the mounted partition to the proper location and to the MBR of the designated device right?
[11:06] <Mechdave> ubuntu, yes that is correct
[11:06] <almoxarife> Flannel: yeah, why no
[11:06] <khaos> hi guys, i have a weird problem with my ethernet card
[11:07] <khaos> sometimes when Im starting ubuntu it's not appearing in ifconfig but only in lspci
[11:07] <khaos> and  I can't use it. Sometimes... only!!
[11:07] <khaos> This is my post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11580904#post11580904
[11:07] <kjm2664> khaos - could the cable not be seated correctly?
[11:07] <Jithu> if am giving "ifconfig -a" that am getting both devices name  as well as all device info like mac addresss
[11:07] <almoxarife> ovidius: I take it back, I felt strong about some issue with ubuntu and I ranted here, they told me to go to #ubuntu-dev , they did take my info and even showed me the bug report it created
[11:08] <Mechdave> ubuntu, read everything twice before you do it :)
[11:08] <khaos> kjm2664, yes but this is not the problem. The interface is not SHOWN in ifconfig :)
[11:08] <cosmic> almoxarife:  is there a way to fix ..
[11:08] <kjm2664> ah, right.
[11:08] <khaos> kjm2664, after some shutdowns/reboots it may works ok!
[11:08] <khaos> I have posted my post that I explain the situation and my laptop specs
[11:09] <Jithu> ya it's not showing in ifconfig
[11:09] <Jithu> but the hardware driver installed know ?
[11:09] <almoxarife> cosmic: what ever you tried to install, un-install it first, if that works then you got less problems ahead
[11:10] <khaos> Jithu, I dont know. Sometimes is showing in ifconfig and network manager and I can connect with eth0 smoothly with no problems
[11:10] <kjm2664> khaos: beyond my skill to heal. You need elvish medicine I think.
[11:10] <khaos> kjm2664, thanks no problem :)
[11:11] <khaos> How I can check the driver? lsmod?
[11:12] <khaos> i have triple boot in my pc and idk if this cause the problem
[11:12] <Mechdave> ubuntu, how are you going with it?
[11:13] <ubuntu> Mechdave: not well
[11:13] <Mechdave> ubuntu, what is the problem?
[11:13] <kjm2664> Triple boot shouldn't matter, unless you're sharing things like /proc or /etc between ubuntu and debian.
[11:13] <ubuntu> Mechdave: http://paste.ubuntu.com/790378/
[11:14] <Jithu> khaos : result like that
[11:14] <Jithu> Module                  Size  Used by
[11:14] <Jithu> binfmt_misc             6587  1
[11:14] <Jithu> ppdev                   5259  0
[11:14] <Jithu> joydev                  8708  0
[11:14] <Jithu> snd_hda_codec_conexant    22577  1
[11:14] <FloodBot1> Jithu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:14]  * Scoplex 
[11:14]  * Scoplex Does SOMETHING
[11:14] <ovidius> filed a bug report under: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content/+bug/910803
[11:15] <ovidius> thanks all
[11:15] <khaos> hmm Jithu : my lsmod paste: http://pastebin.com/41eQi1W8
[11:15] <Mechdave> ubuntu, you need  to mount /dev/sda2 on /mnt like this -> sudo mount -a /dev/sda2 /mnt
[11:16] <khaos> I think that is not loaded for a reason :/
[11:16] <ubuntu> Mechdave: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -a /dev/sda2 /mnt
[11:16] <ubuntu> mount: /dev/sda2 already mounted or /mnt busy
[11:16] <ubuntu> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda2 is already mounted on /mnt
[11:16] <khaos> the weird thing is that sometimes is working... A kernel with personality? :P
[11:17] <cosmic> almoxarife: Burg installed then added ppa ppa: n-muench/burg and ppa: ingalex / super-boot-manager then wants to install and gives me this: E: burg-pc: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status .... 10
[11:17] <Mechdave> ubuntu, yes :)
[11:17] <ubuntu> Mechdave: so?
[11:18] <Mechdave> ubuntu, ok now --> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda2
[11:19] <ubuntu> Mechdave: http://paste.ubuntu.com/790382/
[11:20] <khaos> anyone who can help?
[11:20] <Mechdave> ubuntu, ok hang on, shall research the problem
[11:23] <khaos> My problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11580904#post11580904  In order not to flood here
[11:24] <almoxarife> cosmic: that error is from a install or un-install?
[11:25] <cosmic> almoxarife:  Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:25] <cosmic>  burg-pc
[11:25] <cosmic>  burg
[11:25] <cosmic>  burg-theme-sunset
[11:25] <cosmic>  burg-theme-ubuntu-wall
[11:25] <cosmic> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:25] <FloodBot1> cosmic: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:25] <Rebel_Eclipsed> Has anyone here seen the show "Criminal Minds" ?
[11:26] <almoxarife> !ot | Rebel_Eclipsed
[11:26] <Rebel_Eclipsed> Yes I understand that, and I have a question about Ubuntu that stems from that show.
[11:27] <Mechdave> ubuntu, Oops, sorry my mistake. Should read --> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/boot  /dev/sda
[11:28] <ubuntu> Mechdave: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/boot  /dev/sda2 you mean you miss 2 at the end
[11:28] <Mechdave> ubuntu, we want to install grub to the Master Boot Record and not to the partition on which Ubuntu is installed :)
[11:28] <Rebel_Eclipsed> On that show the tech analyst has one of her screens sideways so it sits vertically. How would you set up Ubuntu to run this way on the screen?
[11:28] <Mechdave> ubuntu, yes, exactly :)
[11:29] <ubuntu> Mechdave: same error
[11:29] <SpareXX> Anyone got an idea of what I should do? I'm trying to connect my laptop to my reciever so i can use my hdtv, but I'm only getting a black screen, my tv says 1920x1080i like its connected but I dont get picture
[11:29] <Mechdave> ubuntu, Hmmm interesting
[11:29] <almoxarife> Rebel_Eclipsed: easy, if the display and the graphics card will handle it
[11:30] <SpareXX> using x-server
[11:30] <Rebel_Eclipsed> is it just a setting?
[11:30] <ubuntu> Mechdave: wuld you like to do remote desktop?
[11:30] <almoxarife> SpareXX: you need to talk to the dudes at #xbmc , that is their forte
[11:30] <Mechdave> ubuntu, we could give it a go
[11:31] <ubuntu> Mechdave: how to run it
[11:31] <SpareXX> almoxarife, ok, thanks :)
[11:31] <khaos> My problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11580904#post11580904  In order not to flood here
[11:31] <Rebel_Eclipsed> almoxarife, can you point me to a site to look into setting that up?
[11:32] <Mechdave> ubuntu, I have never used it. are you on a router or mobile internet?
[11:32] <ubuntu> Mechdave: router
[11:32] <Mechdave> ubuntu, we are going to have a problem then. your firewall will prevent the connection
[11:33] <ubuntu> Mechdave: dont worry about my firewall
[11:33] <almoxarife> Rebel_Eclipsed: not off the top of my head no, wikipedia? o
[11:33] <ubuntu> Mechdave: or if you like we can do teamviewer
[11:33] <Rebel_Eclipsed> ok thanks.. I'll keep looking.
[11:34] <Mechdave> ubuntu, give me 10 and I will find out why it is happening
[11:35] <ubuntu> Mechdave: do you haveteamviewer?
[11:35] <DirtyDawg> fkl k l
[11:35] <Mechdave> ubuntu, nope
[11:35] <DirtyDawg> oops
[11:36] <ubuntu> Mechdave: can you get it it's free program i can give you the link if you want
[11:36] <ubuntu> Mechdave: and very easy to use
[11:36] <ubuntu> Mechdave: you will save alot of time because i'm here for hours and no progress yet
[11:37] <ubuntu> Mechdave: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/index.aspx
[11:38] <Mechdave> ubuntu, got it... will take a few minutes to download and install
[11:38] <minsikcho> hibernating doesn't work in asus u45jc laptop... plz help :) I'm using oneiric ocelot.
[11:38] <ubuntu> Mechdave: it's so small wont take minute unless you got slowinternet lol :)
[11:39] <Mechdave> ubuntu, I have slow at the moment... will plug in wire to get better once installed
[11:39] <ubuntu> Mechdave: ok waiting for you
[11:40] <p34c0ck> hi all
[11:42] <minsikcho> no help??? hibernation doesn't work in u45jc laptop
[11:42] <glinjo> 4 v 4 of?
[11:45] <ubuntu> Mechdave: how is it going
[11:46] <Mechdave> ubuntu, ran out of RAM and running slow :(
[11:46] <ubuntu> Mechdave: how much ram do you have
[11:47] <Mechdave> ubuntu, I have 1Gig but am running lots and lots
[11:47] <ubuntu> Mechdave: i see
[11:48] <Jithu> i have problem in ubuntu wifi driver ; actually Broadcom B43 wireless driver installed my laptop ;
[11:48] <Jithu> if am giving "ifconfig -a" that am getting both devices name  as well as all device info like mac addresss
[11:49] <Mechdave> ubuntu, ok more under control now... dang laptop
[11:50] <Mechdave> ubuntu, am running 11.10 on a pentium 4... Bit slow sometimes
[11:50] <Jithu> am getting wireless device info;  if am providing ifconfig -a
[11:51] <Jithu> any solution for this wireless issue?
[11:52] <Mechdave> ubuntu, ok installing... the old way... GUI is so slow way of doing things sometimes :)
[11:53] <Kwev> Hello
[11:53] <Mechdave> ubuntu, ok what is your details?
[11:53] <Kwev> I'm sorry, I'm not here for a ubuntu related question. But I'm french and need the help of a english/american who has notion in economy
[11:53] <iceroot> !ot | Kwev
[11:54] <Kwev> (It's a desesperate call of help. :x)
[11:54] <Kwev> Ok, sorry :(
[11:54] <Kwev> At least I tried
[11:55] <Arthur456> ciao
[11:55] <arpanet> Omg
[11:56] <Mechdave> ubuntu, you still about?
[11:56] <ubuntu> Mechdave: sorry was away
[11:56] <ubuntu> Mechdave: what details
[11:56] <Arthur456> !list
[11:57] <arpanet> !trigger
[11:57] <Mechdave> ubuntu, can I PM you as we are now off topic for here
[11:58] <ubuntu> Mechdave: sure
[11:58] <arpanet> !noob
[11:58] <almoxarife>  !list <--- have it show torrents for all the avail iso's ??
[11:58] <Mrokii> Hi. I wanted to know if there is a way to display an html-file on the desktop for Gnome (Ubuntu 11.10 classic), similar to what conky does, so that it is not a regular window, but integrated into the desktop-background, so to say.
[11:58] <arpanet> Smh
[11:59] <Humbedooh> !smurf
[12:00] <arpanet> !lol
[12:01] <ssta> play with the bot in PM please
[12:02] <arpanet> Ok sorry
[12:03] <mellpatr> happy new year, buddies!!
[12:04] <mellpatr> its possible to use sudo with an user from domain?
[12:04] <ssta> not sure I understand the question.  sudo as a different user?
[12:05] <arpanet> Tx !
[12:05] <ssta> mellpatr: or you mean a windows/AD domain?
[12:06] <mellpatr> yes, ssta
[12:06] <_JLuc_> hello
[12:07] <ssta> mellpatr: you can add AD groups to sudoers.  It's something like: %<domain>\\<group> ALL=(ALL) ALL
[12:07] <mellpatr> hummm
[12:07] <ssta> mellpatr: you'll need to lookup the exact syntax though, I don't know it for sure from memory
[12:07] <mellpatr> ill trying now!!
[12:08] <mellpatr> thanks a lot ssta!
[12:08] <ssta> you're welcome.  Good luck
[12:10] <shades> i'm trying to write a bash script and it's telling me let: not found
[12:10] <shades> what's the deal?
[12:10] <shades> it works on a redhat machine just fine..
[12:10] <Humbedooh> depends on what your script says :>
[12:10] <mellpatr> ssta, i found a correct syntax at here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryWinbindHowto
[12:10] <mellpatr> thanks man!
[12:11] <ssta> mellpatr: glad it's working for you
[12:12] <shades> Humbedooh: http://pastebin.com/0b829JEw
[12:13] <ssta> shades: let is a bash specific thing, won't work with /bin/sh
[12:14] <Humbedooh> ye, you need bash
[12:14] <Humbedooh> so change it to #!/bin/bash
[12:14] <ssta> shades: reason it works on redhat is that /bin/sh is bash in redhat, in ubuntu it's dash
[12:14] <Humbedooh> bash ftw!
[12:14] <shades> ssta thanks
[12:15] <bs> Mechdave: it work man thanks
[12:15] <bs> Mechdave: but got issue in the sound card
[12:15] <ssta> still don't really understand why it's not bash in ubuntu, but I guess there are reasons
[12:16] <Mechdave> bs, No worries, this is where I have to leave you, I am not good on sound cards :(
[12:16] <bs> Mechdave: ok man thanks any way
[12:16] <Sidewinder1> !sound
[12:17] <bs> Mechdave: by the way is there better irc clint than this one?
[12:17] <almoxarife> bs: me likes sound cards
[12:17] <bs> almoxarife: ok maybe you can help me about my card sound
[12:17] <Mechdave> bs, I use xchat
[12:17] <almoxarife> bs: what card? what machine, what os?
[12:17] <bs> Mechdave: is it better?
[12:18] <fuafrm> ciao
[12:18] <fuafrm> !list
[12:18] <Mechdave> bs, you will have to try it. sudo apt-get install xchat
[12:18] <bs> almoxarife: os ubuntu 11.10 what card i donno
[12:18] <almoxarife> bs: oh
[12:20] <bs> almoxarife: so?
[12:20] <bs> Mechdave: by the way in the boot menu i can't find windows xp only windows 7
[12:21] <almoxarife> bs: so? do you want me to guess? I have no idea what the issue is, want to share?
[12:21] <bs> almoxarife: tell me how to know my sound card so i can tell you i'm new to ubuntu
[12:21] <owenll> bs: cat /proc/asound/card0/codec* | grep Codec
[12:21] <bs> owenll: what is this?
[12:22] <almoxarife> bs: what?
[12:22] <owenll> bs: in a terminal to tell you wht sound card you have
[12:22] <Teratogen> lspci
[12:22] <bs> almoxarife: Codec: Realtek ALC892
[12:23] <almoxarife> bs: and it does? nothing? sometimes?
[12:23] <bs> almoxarife: what do you mean?
[12:23] <Mechdave> bs, Ok you will have to add the win XP one manually. I can't go through it tonight but it will be on here how to do it --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[12:24] <bs> Mechdave: ok will give it a try
[12:27] <tracer00t> can i get some opinions on what FS i should use for an smb/NFS server?
[12:28] <nimesh> how do i delete a now empty directory without emptying it first ?
[12:28] <niko> ##fix_your_connection
[12:28] <bs> almoxarife: will you help me?
[12:28] <pangolin> nimesh: rmdir
[12:29] <maucat> nimesh: rm -Rf
[12:29] <ssta> tracer00t: depends.  What are your requirements?
[12:29] <bs> any one can help me about my sound card
[12:30] <nimesh> pangolin: maucat thanks
[12:30] <tracer00t> ssta: needs to support large size 2TB+, file sizes over 4GB
[12:31] <ssta> tracer00t: I like zfs, you're never going to hit the limits of that.
[12:31] <NimeshNeema> pangolin: maucat didn't worked :-(
[12:32] <tracer00t> ssta: i thought zfs was really only good for SAN etc or is that just SUN engineers only knowing Solaris...
[12:32] <bs> any one can help me about my sound card
[12:32] <ssta> tracer00t: you can use it anywhere...although you can't yet boot from it
[12:33] <Sidewinder1> !sound | bs
[12:34] <almoxarife> is there a terminal command that breaks down a sound cards functions??? something meaty?
[12:34] <tracer00t> ssta: what about jsf2?
[12:34] <ssta> tracer00t: I don't know anyhting about that
[12:34] <bs> Sidewinder1: i can't find my sound card in the output
[12:35] <NicolaeCeausescu> dcc send startkeylogger 0 0 0
[12:35] <NimeshNeema> how to show hidden files in Nautilus ?
[12:35] <almoxarife> NicolaeCeausescu: gosh, really?
[12:36] <dg_> hello all
[12:36] <owenll> NimeshNeema: Ctrl+h
[12:36] <NicolaeCeausescu> yeah im a noob
[12:36] <Barbariandude> o/
[12:37] <almoxarife> bs: ready?
[12:37] <bs> almoxarife: i'm
[12:37] <blasfemia> por ahi hay algun hispano??!!
[12:37] <Sidewinder1> NimeshNeema, In Nautilus go to Edit-->Preferences and "Tick" Show Hidden Files.
[12:37] <blasfemia> Soy de Perú!!
[12:37] <DJones> !es | blasfemia
[12:37] <almoxarife> bs: do you have pastebinit installed?
[12:38] <bs> almoxarife: what is pastebinit? is my first use of ubuntu
[12:38] <almoxarife> bs: do you have pastebinit installed? on the machine with the issues
[12:38] <almoxarife> bs:
[12:38] <almoxarife> bs: open a terminal
[12:38] <bs> almoxarife: done
[12:38] <Sidewinder1> !pastebinit | bs
[12:39] <almoxarife> bs: type this                sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[12:39] <almoxarife> bs: copy paste
[12:39] <bs> almoxarife: ok
[12:39] <bs> almoxarife: give me second
[12:40] <almoxarife> bs:  aplay -l | pastebinit                    <-copy paste
[12:40] <almoxarife> bs: share the link
[12:41] <jamesonx> I can't install the adobe flash player plugin, fresh wubi installation,after installation it tells me that it failed then it appears in my installed programs and when I try to remove it again it says it failed removing it, can't watch any videos
[12:42] <jamesonx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/790459/
[12:43] <blasfemia> join #ubuntu-es
[12:43] <Gabbiee> Peeeps, help, my laptop doesn't have access to the internet, well, sometimes the wireless works but soemtimes doesn't
[12:43] <jamesonx> oh the link is down
[12:44] <ssta> jamesonx: looks like a stale package list.  try "sudo apt-get update" first
[12:44] <hroi> hi,
[12:45] <hroi> how can I get more detailed info on a backage using aptitude?
[12:45] <hroi> ehm never mind
[12:45] <ssta> hroi: aptitude show <packagename>
[12:45] <hroi> spoke to soon
[12:45] <hroi> ssta: thanks :)
[12:46] <hroi> ssta: ehm, it doesnt show me the file contents in the package,
[12:46] <hroi> ssta: is there a way?
[12:46] <bs> almoxarife: http://paste.ubuntu.com/790461/
[12:47] <ssta> hroi: no.  You need to use dpkg for that
[12:47] <ssta> hroi: dpkg -c foo.deb
[12:48] <bil21al_> what is the best video cutting software in ubuntu?
[12:48] <almoxarife> bs: get to sound preferences
[12:48] <jamesonx> why make the terminal so damn hard to find, I forgot the term "terminal" and didn't know how the hell to get it to open, kept searching "bash", "console" etc. previous versions had a nice "start" like menu where you could find what you were looking for without remembering the exact term for it
[12:48] <bs> almoxarife: ok then
[12:48] <almoxarife> bs: what 'hardware' is selected?
[12:48] <ssta> jamesonx: it's a "feature".  there's a keyboard shortcut (ctrl-alt-T I think)
[12:49] <sweb> if i copy some font to fonts folder
[12:49] <magicJ> I have a system where the printer appears to be configured correctly - it is configured as a generic text - when I send a job through lp it works perfectly - when I select print in the browser all appears to ve right - the printer comes up etc - but the out put never hapens - any ideas?
[12:49] <bs> almoxarife: hda nvidia
[12:49] <sweb> how can i re initialize theme ?
[12:49] <bil21al_> what is the best video cutting software in ubuntu?
[12:49] <almoxarife> bs: go to 'output' tab, what profile is selected?
[12:49] <ssta> !best| bil21al
[12:50] <bs> almoxarife: in the output ther's only two option hda nvidia and internet phone and the on that is selected hda nvidia
[12:50] <bil21al> ssta: i just want to cut a video  any one you know ?
[12:51] <ssta> bil21al: personally I use ffmpeg for that.  It may or may not be what you want to use
[12:51] <bil21al> ssta: ok i will try
[12:52] <jamesonx> My ip is assigned through DHCP and for some reason ubuntu wouldn't establish an internet connection until I unplugged my modem and plugged it back in
[12:52] <almoxarife> bs: those are devices, profile?
[12:52] <SpareXX> How do I find my hdmi output for sound in 11?
[12:52] <bs> almoxarife: yes only those two the internal audio dosnt appear in the output
[12:53] <almoxarife> bs: ubuntu 11.10?
[12:53] <bs> almoxarife: yes
[12:54] <almoxarife> bs: below devices, what is shown?
[12:55] <bs> almoxarife: settings for the selected device
[12:55] <almoxarife> bs: great, and what are those settings?
[12:56] <bs> almoxarife: balance is set to the middle and connector is HDMI
[12:56] <almoxarife> bs: connector is 'hdmi (what)???'
[12:57] <bs> almoxarife: just hdmi, look if you want to do desktop remote tell me
[12:57] <almoxarife> bs: I don't do desktop remote
[12:58] <almoxarife> bs: you are saying that there is only one option? not a pull down menu?
[12:58] <bs> almoxarife: no
[12:58] <bs> almoxarife: wait i find the internal audio
[12:59] <almoxarife> bs: see, I expected to see at least 3, maybe four, and one of them is the correct one, I also have hdmi sound
[12:59] <bs> almoxarife: how to make it the default driver?
[13:00] <kurtul> how can i play file with .box extension? or convert it to a normal video file?
[13:00] <almoxarife> bs: what?
[13:01] <bs> almoxarife: i mean just click on it will it be choosen tremanily?
[13:01] <aaschez> Afaik all *buntu versions like kubuntu, lubuntu and xubuntu are based on desktop environment. Is there something like editions like how for Windows.. home, professional, ultimate, enterprise..etc?
[13:02] <almoxarife> bs: click on something and it usually means it is the 'set/termanaly' choice
[13:03] <bs> almoxarife: ok but the mp3 file wont to run although i install the codec
[13:03] <Mrokii> I am trying to install an app that I only have a repo for 9.10, and I can't install it because it requires "python-webkitgtk" which doesn't seem to be available. Can anybody help?
[13:03] <bs> almoxarife: ok it work now
[13:04] <A_J> my flash is all jerky, ubuntu 11.10. What should i Do ?
[13:04] <bs> almoxarife: i can't hear my mic sound
[13:05] <Humbedooh> Mrokii, apt-get install python-webkit ?
[13:05] <almoxarife> bs: I don't know mic sound
[13:05] <Mrokii> Humbedooh: That is installed, but I wasn't sure if that was a different package. Anyhow, it doesn't help, aptitude still complaints that the package isn't there.
[13:06] <Humbedooh> well there is no package called python-webkitgtk anymore
[13:06] <Mrokii> Humbedooh: So is there something I can do about it? Like changing something in the source of the app and compile it myself?
[13:07] <computa_mike> hey guys - I'm trying to compile some code.  I understand that I run ./configure.  That's a dependancy checker right?
[13:08] <Humbedooh> I think it'd be quite a task :> what program are you installing?
[13:08] <Mrokii> Humbedooh: gtk-desktop-info
[13:10] <Humbedooh> hm, it seems to have been abandoned
[13:10] <Humbedooh> maybe you could try Conky instead?
[13:10] <Sidewinder1> computa_mike, Have you seen/studied this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[13:10] <bs> almoxarife: when i close the volume settings and reopen it the nvidia device is the selected one
[13:12] <A_J> My Flash is playing Jerky in ubuntu 10.04 LTS can someone help me
[13:12] <Mrokii> Humbedooh: I tried, but, honestly, conky is a pita when it comes to display something like tables in a structured way. I wanted something I could fill my desktop-background with tables of shortcuts for some apps and gtk-desktop-info seemed ideal, because it's supposed to be able to display html-info.
[13:12] <almoxarife> bs: in the 'output' tab, is the word 'connector' below 'balance'?
[13:12] <computa_mike> Sidewinder1: I haven't seen that page, but I was working through the packaging guide.  My question is that I have some code that seems to want rsa.h  which it says is part of openssl, but I already have that installed... I wonder if there's an openssl-lib package that I should install to fulfill that dependancy...
[13:13] <bs> almoxarife: yes
[13:13] <almoxarife> bs: and to the right there is a dropdown menu?
[13:13] <bs> almoxarife: it's below subwoofer and it set to analog output
[13:14] <Humbedooh> sounds like someone should revive gtk-desktop-info then :>
[13:14] <bs> almoxarife: yes but i cant select any thing of it
[13:14] <Sidewinder1> computa_mike, I'm not that accomplished at compiling; I just thought that link might help you. And I certainly wouldn't want to tell you the wrong thing. :D
[13:15] <Mrokii> Humbedooh: I doubt I am capable enough of that. Oh well, I will have a look at it and see if I can make sense of it. Thanks anyway.
[13:15] <ssta> computa_mike: you probably need libssl-dev
[13:16] <computa_mike> Sidewinder1: No worries - It was just confusing...  the way I see it... If I have openssl installed, I probably don't have the source for it (the dev package),and it's probably just a case of meeting that dependancy (i hope).  Looks like I'll give it a try...  Thanks - and thanks ssta
[13:16] <shomon> hi, how do I boot into windows? I have a laptop that has windows, but also grub with linux... but how do I get a boot option to go into windows?
[13:16] <shomon> normally I only see the option to go into ubuntu.. .is there a special combination for the windows bit?
[13:17] <bs> almoxarife: so?
[13:17] <computa_mike> yup - needed libssl-dev ...  d'oh....  I read the error message from configure, and didn't think properly.  Still - it's a lesson learned.
[13:18] <computa_mike> thanks everyone - nice quick fix!
[13:19] <almoxarife> bs: so? <-- to some cultures that is considered rude, mine for instance, I have no idea what your problem is, how to fix it, or who to ask, have a good day
[13:20] <bs> almoxarife: ok thanks for your help
[13:21] <bs> any one can help my about my sound card i van't hear the mic sound
[13:22] <raoul> How can I connect to a Windows-server on neautilus? t seems that i can only connect to unix servers
[13:25] <almoxarife> raoul: the win-machine must allow access to it
[13:25] <html> bs, just do the basics , make sure ur not muted anywhere, and set the output to something know to work/or play around til it does
[13:26] <raoul> so unix machines can also access that server, you mean that almoxarife?
[13:27] <dyd> how can i understand what processor i have installed?
[13:27] <abhinav_singh1> i am using gnome right now..i want to try KDE ... is it okay to install both KDE and GNOME at same time.. my ubuntu version is 11.04
[13:27] <almoxarife> raoul: should, yes
[13:28] <skilz> dyd: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[13:28] <almoxarife> abhinav_singh1: yes, you can have both, just don't break one or the other with package removals
[13:29] <html> kde has a few big bugs to work out if you do... and MAKE sure you have the big horse power to run it
[13:30] <abhinav_singh1> aah ...it is that slow :) html
[13:30] <almoxarife> html: I run a hybrid, no issues, the kde is actually less resource hungry here
[13:31] <beta0x64> I have a general question about some basic hardware I found. Should I ask here or someplace else?
[13:31] <almoxarife> abhinav_singh1: its no slower here, and that is with gnome/kde apps going all at once
[13:31] <beta0x64> It's a type of peripheral I've never seen before
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> !ask| beta0x64
[13:32] <abhinav_singh1> hmm okay almoxarife
[13:32] <dyd> skilz, thanks
[13:32] <Sidewinder1> beta0x64, If it's ubuntu related here is fine; if strictly hardware, perhaps in ##hardware would give a quicker answer..
[13:33] <skilz> dyd: np
[13:33] <beta0x64> I was setting up a computer earlier and I was embarrassed to say I have no idea what this device is or does or what its name is. It is a black square from Dell with a light on it. It has a special port on it. The symbol on the male connector is a triangle with a line extending from it. I want to say it's for a remote or something, but there's nothing like that
[13:33] <beta0x64> It's a mystery to me
[13:34] <skilz> beta0x64: Plug it in and type 'dmesg'
[13:34] <beta0x64> It had a special port. It did not seem to be a USB, Serial or audio/video related.
[13:34] <shomon> how do I add windows 7 as a boot option?
[13:34] <beta0x64> I'm not at that computer right now.
[13:34] <meerkats> if I have installed supertuxkart incorrectly due to an outdated irrlicht engine, do I have to delete STK and reinstall from scratch?
[13:34] <skilz> beta0x64: Then paste the last 10 or so lines on pastebin.com
[13:34] <abhinav_singh1> almoxarife: well i can still try it... i will purge either kde or gnome after that :)
[13:35] <skilz> beta0x64: Okay well if you want to find out what is, I can help...
[13:35] <html> almoxarife,  well im not sure for a "hybrid" but straight raw kde is . aa biigg wow,,, better then mac i hear ,, ... if you can run fredra /kde then u can.. abhinav_singh1  not if you have the houre power
[13:35] <beta0x64> skilz, I'm not at that computer right now. I was hoping someone had encountered a device like it.
[13:35] <echelo> ciao a tutti
[13:35] <echelo> !List
[13:35] <echelo> !list
[13:36] <Sidewinder1> !it | echelo
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> o/ Sidewinder1
[13:36] <Sidewinder1> :D
[13:36] <raoul> ..
[13:37] <skilz> shomon: edit /boot/grub/boot.img
[13:37] <shomon> thanks skilz :) just going there
[13:38] <shomon> hmm it's binary
[13:38] <skilz> shomon: Sorry wrong file
[13:38] <shomon> ok I did an fdisk -l to see what it was
[13:38] <Guillem> I've a memoryStick which is corrupted. Fortunately, my laptop can read memoryStick now . I use the memstick at a sony camera. Can I use ext2/ext3 filesystem at the camera?
[13:39] <meerkats> ask sony Guillem
[13:39] <raoul> Hmm so my windows machine should have permission
[13:39] <skilz> shomon: The file you are looking for is /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[13:40] <raoul> almoxarife: how come i can connect to it with Filezilla?
[13:40] <shomon> ah okay
[13:40] <almoxarife> raoul: it?
[13:40] <raoul> almoxarife: the window server
[13:40] <raoul> *windows
[13:41] <shomon> thanks skilz - guess I should add a "menuentry" somehow.
[13:41] <almoxarife> raoul: the win machine would need to be set to accept ftp requests, you got win issues
[13:42] <bs> how to tremainate app
[13:43] <skilz> raoul: ask in #windows
[13:43] <raoul> almoxarife: well how come it doesnt work with nautilaus, but it does work in Filezilla
[13:43] <skilz> bs: killakk app name
[13:43] <skilz> bs: killall name
[13:43] <doujiang> help!!!why Win7 in VirtualBox cannot install applications???
[13:44] <shomon> hope this isn't OT - how do I get google NOT to put everything it gives me in the language it thinks I speak?
[13:44] <bs> thanks
[13:44] <almoxarife> raoul: because filezilla is a ftp client, and nautilus can be but you don't have it setup that way
[13:44] <skilz> bs: Or to find the PID of an app, ps aux grep | grep -v grep
[13:44] <skilz> Or pgrep
[13:45] <almoxarife> raoul: if you have a ftp server you want to treat as a virtual folder on a ubuntu I can help
[13:45] <sattu94> But pgrep only shows the pid, so it is useful only if you know the exact process name..
[13:45] <raoul> yes thats what I want
[13:46] <raoul> almoxarife
[13:46] <doujiang> Is there any Chinese???I just got some problems,but my english is pool.
[13:46] <bobweaver> hello there this is not a ubuntu question but more of where do I turn to get help. I am crateing imagae captcha and need some help. any one know where I might be able to find a channel or something :>) like that ?
[13:46] <sattu94> But I believe there has to be some option for pgrep to also display the process name...
[13:46] <almoxarife> raoul: there may be a lot of different approaches but mine is simple enough for me, what is your version of ubuntu?
[13:47] <raoul> almoxarife: Well i'm running Xubuntu, with nautilueus
[13:47] <almoxarife> raoul: 11.10?
[13:47] <raoul> the newest one
[13:47] <raoul> wait lemme check
[13:47] <raoul> yes
[13:47] <sattu94> Found it ! pgrep -l also lists the process name!
[13:47] <bs> how to format usb stick
[13:48] <raoul> almoxarife, yes its 11.10
[13:49] <shomon> when I run skype, as root or as me, I get "bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)"
[13:49] <bobweaver> sattu94:  ps aux | awk '/name of whatever/'  {print $some column number}
[13:49] <shomon> what could be the problem?
[13:49] <almoxarife> raoul: I installed 'gigolo' to keep the ftp server open on my end and placing the ftp server contents on ~/gvfs at all times, the rest was just point nautilus to that folder
[13:50] <bobweaver> sattu94:like : ps aux | awk '/[b]ash/ {print $2}'      <---will give pid of bash
[13:50] <skilz> bs: gparted
[13:50] <raoul> Hmmmm, I have gigolo installed here
[13:51] <raoul> and whenever i try to connect to the FTP with natiaulues (:P) trough my filemanager, it adds it to gigolo
[13:51] <raoul> but when I doubleclick on the ftpname, it open firefox
[13:51] <bs> skilz, where to run gparted
[13:52] <almoxarife> raoul: no idea what that is about
[13:52] <sattu94> bobweaver: yes, but pgrep -l would be easier than pulling in awk to do it ?
[13:52] <edgy> Hi, I want to run two programs in parallel in one line
[13:52] <raoul> almoxarife: How do I open the ftp item in gedit (trough gedit)
[13:52] <edgy> $ sleep 10 &; sleep 20 &
[13:53] <edgy> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `;
[13:53] <edgy> so, how can I do this properly
[13:53] <bs> skilz, how to run gparted
[13:53] <shomon> raoul, I've found filezilla to be a bit easier in this respect
[13:53] <almoxarife> raoul: do you have a /gvfs folder in your home folder?
[13:53] <geirha> edgy: sleep 10 & sleep 20 &      & is ok, ; is ok, &; is too much
[13:53] <sattu94> edgy: So you want to run sleep 10 and sleep 20 together ?
[13:54] <skilz> bs: sudo apt-get install gparted then sudo gparted
[13:54] <raoul> almoxarife: no
[13:54] <skilz> edgy: What programs?
[13:54] <bobweaver> sattu94:  as you can see awk is doing all the things that pgrep and or grep where doing I guess that if we all had alais under bashrc there would be 2 letter commands for every thing :>)
[13:54] <raoul> almoxarife: .gvfs i have
[13:54] <edgy> geirha: fantastic, thanks
[13:55] <edgy> geirha: where is this documented by the way?
[13:55] <dyd> guys how can i understand what kind of motherboard i have installed? by command line
[13:55] <bobweaver> dyd:  not sure but I would try       sudo lshw
[13:55]  * bobweaver goes to try 
[13:56] <almoxarife> raoul: anything it?
[13:56] <skilz> bobweaver: lspci
[13:56] <almoxarife> raoul: anything in it?
[13:56] <sattu94> bobweaver: Haha.. true..but I guess it makes sense to do it separately, than on top of awk.... to allow for more extensibility.. :s
[13:56] <skilz> bobweaver: That shows all hardware installed
[13:56] <geirha> edgy: In the manual, somewhat indirectly, but the point is, both semicolon and ampersand are command terminators
[13:56] <bobweaver> skilz:  that is just the pci cards that are connected to the board :?)
[13:57] <ofaurax_boulot> hello
[13:57] <ofaurax_boulot> happy new year
[13:57] <shomon> how do I get a volume control on the panel in 10.10?
[13:57] <dyd> bobweaver, ok, it shows many things
[13:57] <ofaurax_boulot> I use the latest ubuntu (11.10)
[13:57] <ofaurax_boulot> and I can't launch rhythmbox
[13:57] <skilz> bobweaver: And onboard hardware.
[13:58] <geirha> edgy: The bash manual, that is.
[13:58] <edgy> geirha: if I do something like ls & date, I would see the output of date before ls, why?
[13:58] <ofaurax_boulot> here is the log : http://pastebin.com/pH7thYRq
[13:59] <raoul> almoxarife: it has some FTP folders in it
[13:59] <geirha> edgy: ls is probably slower than date. ls has to read the whole directory first, sort the filenames, then output.
[13:59] <dyd> skilz, this is my output for lspci http://pastebin.com/NGKRJUX1 how to identify motherboard?
[14:00] <edgy> geirha: thanks a lot very much indeed ;)
[14:01] <shomon> does anyone know how I can add grub options to boot in windows 7 to my ubuntu 10.10 box? I know it's something to add to /boot/grub/grub.cfg, and that my windows partitions are hda1 and 5.
[14:01] <edgy> can any one help me get my kvm guest with resolution higher than 1024x768?
[14:02] <BluesKaj> hey folks
[14:02] <geirha> edgy: Probably better asked in #kvm
[14:03] <edgy> geirha: ok, I will do, thanks again
[14:04] <bs> what is the best clint for msn and yahoo
[14:05] <raoul> bs: Pidgin
[14:05] <raoul> almoxarife: so there are only a few folders of my previous FTP connections from my Windows server. (that didnt work)
[14:06] <geek01> anyone here have experience with Dell Dimension 2350?
[14:06] <Staticlv> where is the documentation I need in order to share folders between two ubuntu machines?
[14:07] <allister> hi
[14:07] <shomon> how do I set alsamixer to pick up audio from the microphone?
[14:07] <bs> how to remove some icons from the side bar in ubuntu 11.10
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> bs  in the dash menu, choose applications, click right on the application you wish to remove
[14:09] <dlentz> geek01: The dimension 2350 has an intel i8xx GPU, so it will run the crappy fbdev driver by default. YOu may be able to enable the 3d acceleration, but it may cause freezes
[14:09] <bs> MonkeyDust, i mean it keep add icons temporary how to prevent that?
[14:10] <dlentz> geek01, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Mavericki8xxStatus
[14:11] <dlentz> shomon, play with the arecord command
[14:11] <shomon> arecord? okay
[14:12] <geek01> dlentz: thanks - my problem is that the the data in the root partition is increasing all the time, have checked Bios, nothing thera
[14:12] <shomon> it seems to just create lots of strange characters
[14:13] <geek01> it is a 120 gb hdd - root partition is 31 gb
[14:13] <dlentz> what file are  these characters in?
[14:13] <dlentz> i'm guessing that it's some log in /var/log that's getting spammed
[14:14] <bs> how to prevent icons to be add to the side bar in ubuntu 11.10
[14:15] <shomon> does anyone know how to get skype working? it's a nightmare
[14:15] <geek01> dlentz: checked /var /log, and it's huge 19 gb :-(
[14:15] <shomon> it all runs but creates some bluetooth error so I removed bluez. now it still doesn't work and I have no idea how to configure alsamixer to pick up from the microphone
[14:15] <shomon> another way is to boot into windows7 but I've never done this and I have to add an option on grub2.
[14:15] <shomon> does anyone know how to do either of these?
[14:16] <shomon> also windows 7 sucks
[14:16] <arinov> i have eeePC Seashell series with ubuntu certified stick and my special keys works not like in documentation discription
[14:16] <arinov> fn+f9 fn+f7 fn+f4 does not work, how can i fix it?
[14:17] <shomon> stupid laptop power keys probably arinov - mine are all remapped to voklume or brightness
[14:17] <arinov> default preinstallation was 10.10 now it is 11.10
[14:17] <rileyp> sudo apt-get install skype
[14:17] <shomon> done rileyp - and then I installed the deb fromthe skype site too
[14:18] <bs> how to make my webcam work
[14:19] <rileyp> shomon: done rileyp - and then I installed the deb fromthe skype site too. Well thats good? Its not windows you only need install it once doing it again will do nothing.
[14:19] <arinov> is there any instructions about fn keys diagnostics?
[14:21] <rileyp> shomon run alsamixer from a terminal if need be and unmute /select a mic source
[14:21] <thiebaude> !cheese
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> arinov  maybe this link helps http://www.webupd8.org/2010/05/enable-fn-keys-on-your-asus-eeepc-and.html
[14:21] <thiebaude> bs, try a program called cheese
[14:21] <thiebaude> sudo apt-get install cheese
[14:22] <matt23> How can I add showmouse to Compiz?
[14:22] <D_Russ> hello all. why is large file transfer slow on ubuntu? is there some settings i need to change?
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> D_Russ  rsync is fster than cp
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> faster*
[14:23] <D_Russ> what is rsync and cp? MonkeyDust?
[14:23] <bs> thiebaude, i cant find that program
[14:23] <thiner> when login into ubuntu witch one do i want to choose gnome unity 2d
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> D_Russ  cp is copy, rsync basically does the same, but it is faster and has more/other options
[14:24] <D_Russ> i am transfering an 8gb file from my camcorder to my HDD via usb and i am only getting 7mb/sec transfer speeds is this about right?
[14:24] <thiebaude> bs, http://projects.gnome.org/cheese//index
[14:24] <D_Russ> MonkeyDust: is rsync in the software center?
[14:24] <farrukhjon> hi all. Say me, what i need do after editing /etc/environment file for defined variables be active ?
[14:24] <thiebaude> bs, or is it in software center?
[14:25] <skilz> When I run cheese, all the menu options are greyed out and I cant select anything or start my cam, even with sudo.
[14:25] <MonkeyDust> D_Russ  it's a terminal command
[14:25] <D_Russ> ohh i c
[14:26] <D_Russ> so i have only the option of accepting the transfer speeds or learn to use the terminal for transfering large files?
[14:26] <farrukhjon> restart the system or any best way ?
[14:26] <thiebaude> skilz on a windows install windows cant find the webcam, but with cheese the cam has no problems, but dont use windows anymore
[14:26] <dlentz> farrukhjon, you use the export command
[14:27] <thiner> whats better to uuse unity unity 2d or gnome
[14:27] <thiebaude> ds, did you find the Cheese program?
[14:27] <dlentz> if you want the environment variable to be defined for your user every time, then you put the export command at the end of  ~/.bashrc
[14:27] <MonkeyDust> thiner  depends on what you prefer
[14:28] <Basso_> thiner, check out all of them, and choose :)
[14:28] <farrukhjon> i known export command but i want known is there scripts for restarting env as /etc/init.d/networking ?
[14:28] <thiner> the one i used when i first install it is gone who i tired to use compiz
[14:28] <thiner> and now it look different
[14:28] <Sidewinder1> D_Russ, There is a GUI version of the terminal command rsync; it's called Grsync and should be in your repositories.
[14:29] <D_Russ> thank you
[14:29] <jiltdil> any chanel for oracle?
[14:29] <bs> any one know how to prevent icons from being add to the side bar in ubuntu 11.10
[14:30] <auronandace> !alis | jiltdil
[14:30] <Sidewinder1> D_Russ, My pleasure; but I doubt it'll speed up your transfer rate; Grsync is what I use to back-up my data. :-)
[14:31] <dyd> what's the quickest way to set ubuntu for best performance?
[14:31] <Basso_> dyd, define best performance?
[14:31] <arinov> MonkeyDust: is link alive? i cant recieve it
[14:31] <thiner> whats the difference between unity and unity 2d
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> dyd  use a live cd or thum drive, reboot and follow instructions
[14:32] <dyd> Basso_, just to make it work quicker
[14:32] <manners> hey guys iv got an issue with ushare keeps telling me eth-0 is down even though im logged in via vnc over the ethernet port
[14:32] <D_Russ> Sidewinder1: so the transfer rates i am seeing is normal for linux with large files? one thing good about windows is that it transfers large files pretty fast, so i was thinking maybe something was wrong on my install since i never really get the same transfer speeds even when using esata to transfer.
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> thiner  can't say, i don't like/use unity
[14:33] <Basso_> dyd,linux works quite fast, do you feel the system is slugish?
[14:33] <ssta> thiner: unity2d uses less resources (it's all relative)
[14:33] <thiner> well i just have a 8800gt graphic card and im looking to use the best one for that
[14:34] <ssta> try them both, see which you prefer
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> dyd  this link is old, but it may help or give ideas http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/50-amazing-ubuntu-time-saving-tips-482714
[14:34] <manners> my system i have is ubuntu with a usb hdd and my windows 7 machine and i see it doing 10MBps or 100Mbits per second
[14:34] <dlentz> the 8800gt shouldn't have any problem slicing through unity's 3d effects
[14:35] <ssta> whetehr you weant the eye candy or not is up to you
[14:35] <dyd> MonkeyDust, thank you, probably my performance problems were related to compiz (now disabled), but since i want to use vbox i want to improve performance to the best
[14:35] <D_Russ> manners which system does 100mbs
[14:35] <thiner> how do u get the 3d effects i tired compiz and it kind of messed up ubuntu
[14:35] <Sidewinder1> D_Russ, Yes, eSATA is definately faster than USB2, in ubuntu or windows. I'm curious, are you saying that using the same hardware, win is faster, in transfer rates, than ubuntu?
[14:36] <D_Russ> yes
[14:36] <Basso_> dyd, i had problems with compiz, i changed to gnome-shell which uses mutter instead of compiz, was quite the difference, and no vertical tearing
[14:36] <D_Russ> thats what i am saying Sidewinder1:
[14:36] <manners> lol d_russ both i was talking transfer rate and actual throughput rate
[14:36] <Sidewinder1> hmmm
[14:36] <manners> copying from windows 7 to the usb hdd it can max the ethernet connection
[14:37] <D_Russ> dual boot machine @ sidewinder1
[14:37] <dyd> Basso_, thanks
[14:37] <Sidewinder1> D_Russ, What program, in ubuntu, are you using to transfer?
[14:37] <D_Russ> nautilis
[14:37] <D_Russ> drag and drop
[14:37] <Basso_> badass program D_Russ , use it myself, never fails
[14:37] <D_Russ> lol @ Basso
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> you shouldnt use nautilus for large file transfers
[14:38] <Basso_> Yes, use DD to make it into an iso, then mount it
[14:38] <D_Russ> MonkeyDust well it is more like multiple small files
[14:38] <bs> how to add effects to the desktop and animation in ubuntu 11.10
[14:39] <Sidewinder1> D_Russ, That's curious, I also run dual boot (with XP-Pro, but rarely use it, anymore), I've found the times to accomplish 'most' tasks to be very similiar..
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> bs activate compiz
[14:39] <ssta> nautilus is SLOW
[14:39] <ssta> try it on command line instead, is it still slower?
[14:40] <D_Russ> Sidewinder1: that is true, but i have noticed (win764bit) that file transfer is always faster on windows, i do prefer ubuntu by far but thats just one thing i would like to improve if possible
[14:40] <Basso> bs, what gfx card do you have?
[14:40] <bs> Basso, nivida 560 ti
[14:41] <Basso> bs, have you installed the drivers for the card?
[14:41] <Sidewinder1> D_Russ, Then, I would assume, that you're using the 64-bit ver. of ubuntu; which version, 11.10?
[14:41] <bs> Basso, i guess
[14:41] <D_Russ> yes
[14:41] <D_Russ> 11.10
[14:42] <dyd> how can i check how much ram is installed on my system?
[14:42] <Basso> bs, what do you mean by adding effects to the desktop?, you want more compiz bling bling, or dont you have hardware acceleration?
[14:42] <dyd> i tried free -m but can't understand the values
[14:42] <dyd> total = 2003 means 2 gb?
[14:42] <ssta> dyd: no, -m means megabytes
[14:42] <Sidewinder1> D_Russ, I have an 'antique' desktop, and kinda' stick with LTS versions; currently running 10.04, and it works great!
[14:43] <bs> Basso, well i'm new to ubuntu so i donno what is compiz nor hardwear acceleration can you explain please
[14:43] <dyd> free -m with total=2003 stands for 2003 mbs, hence 2 gb, or not? :)
[14:43] <ssta> dyd: yes
[14:43] <Basso> bs, have you just installed ubuntu on your computer?
[14:43] <dyd> ssta, thanks
[14:43] <ssta> dyd: mine is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/790575/  I have 8G in this machine
[14:44] <mneptok> bs: if you do not know what Compiz is, or how it works, you need to learn that before adding effects. walk before you run.
[14:44] <D_Russ> Sidewinder1: yeah i started out with 11.04 32 bit and decided to go with 64bit 11.10 since most people say 64bit works without issues now. my desktop is kind of a powerhouse (well sort of) so it just must be a filesystem type deal
[14:44] <Sidewinder1> D_Russ, About the only real difference in speed, between win vs ubuntu, is when I use my Hauppague, usb, TV ... Much better in win... :-(
[14:44] <suhail> Hai Guys !! Did anyone made  burg themes ?
[14:44] <matt23> yea bs. first time i installed ubuntu, i went through just checking and ticking things off in Compiz, and had to do a full re-install because i lost the GUI haha
[14:45] <mneptok> D_Russ: you are copying files from what filesystem to what filesystem? ext4 to ext4?
[14:45] <D_Russ> maybe xp just is not as fast as win7 with large file transfers. Sidewinder1
[14:45] <bs> Basso, yes i just installed it
[14:46] <bs> Basso, i tried cheese to run my webcam the picture looks awful
[14:46] <suhail> anyone know how to make burg themes ! I want to make a burg theme ! ? Help please !!
[14:46] <Basso> bs, to your graphics card working correctly, you would need to install drivers for it, you can do that in an application called "Additional Drivers"
[14:46] <D_Russ> mneptok: from a camcoder (not sure what the fs is on the camcorder) to a HDD via usb or from ext4 to ext4 when it is via esata.
[14:47] <Basso> bs, i also look at my webcam, and yes i agree, i sometimes look quite awfull in the morning myself
[14:47] <mneptok> D_Russ: the camera is probably FAT32.
[14:48] <bs> Basso, lol no i mean the picture is really bad some parts of it is colored some are not
[14:48] <manners> grrr whats the process manager for ubuntu this damn ballz game wont close lol
[14:48] <Sidewinder1> D_Russ, Well, I wouldn't know anything about "7"'s transfer rates; just last night, I (in ubuntu) burned 695 MB, avi. video file to CD; took all on about 3 minutes; on this, circa 2003, Dell Desktop. :D
[14:48] <bs> Basso, the colors are mess donno why
[14:48] <slakcphil> manners, well there are many, i like top,
[14:48] <Basso> bs, the driver may be fault, or it may be problems with the drivers for the graphics card; INstall new drivers :3
[14:48] <suhail> anyone know how to make burg themes ! I want to make a burg theme ! ? Help please !!
[14:48] <mneptok> slakcphil: try htop. thank me later. ;)
[14:48] <kpok> hi I cant find the brightness applet on the new gnome panel . how do I add it?
[14:49] <slakcphil> mneptok, cool
[14:49] <manners> kk will get that one then
[14:49] <slakcphil> it does not come installed tho
[14:49] <bs> Basso, i'm on the additional drivers it give me two options
[14:49] <mneptok> slakcphil: it's in the repos. no dependencies that aren't already installed.
[14:49] <D_Russ> thats small files size compared to what i normally deal with Sidewinder1, movies i usually deal with are 2GB plus.
[14:49] <slakcphil> coo,
[14:49] <mneptok> !info htop
[14:49] <manners> yup downloading now
[14:50] <manners> still cant figure out this damn ushare telling me the interface is down either
[14:50] <Basso> bs, perfect, you choose the one with highest number, or the one that has "post-release-something-something" on it
[14:50] <Sidewinder1> D_Russ, OIC, Hi-def stuff..
[14:50] <D_Russ> not a big deal, just wondering is i may have had something configured wrong. yep
[14:50] <D_Russ> hidef stuff
[14:50] <slakcphil> yeah, htop is the stuff, looks cool
[14:50] <bs> Basso, that is what i did
[14:51] <suhail> anyone know how to make burg themes ! I want to make a burg theme ! ? Help please !!
[14:51] <Sidewinder1> mneptok, OK, I'll bite,will htop work with Lucid?
[14:51] <Basso> bs, so you have installed it and rebooted the computer?
[14:51] <D_Russ> thats the only time i notice a difference is over 1gb otherwise the transfer rates are pretty comparable
[14:51] <mneptok> Sidewinder1: yessah
[14:51] <bs> Basso, yes i did
[14:51] <Sidewinder1> mneptok, What is the advantage over 'top?'
[14:52] <Basso> bs, then you should have everything setup for hardware acceleration. So now back to the question, what did you mean by adding effects to the desktop?
[14:52] <mneptok> Sidewinder1: ncurses, mostly
[14:52] <Sidewinder1> ncurses?
[14:52] <D_Russ> well i have to get going. Have a happy New Year everyone.
[14:52] <bs> Basso, first can you help to fix the webcam issue
[14:52] <manners> lol right i think it needs rebooting
[14:52] <muhdiekuh> hi, i got an issue on ubuntu 11.10: "service mysql status" says "mysql start/running", although mysql is not running. any hints, on how to debug this?
[14:52] <Basso> i always use HTOP
[14:52] <Sidewinder1> D_Russ, Same to you, sir!
[14:52] <bs> Basso, the picture color is too bad
[14:52] <manners> htop cant kill this process lol
[14:53] <bs> Basso, it's like in gray
[14:53] <manners> actually it has lol at long last
[14:53] <mneptok> manners: who owns the process?
[14:53] <mneptok> manners: disregard
[14:53] <Basso> bs, do fix that you probably need to install a new kernel, or get a new webcam, i sugest you get a new webcam, use linux for 6 months, then install a new kernel :)
[14:53] <manners> dont know now lol
[14:53] <thiner> im not getting ompiz to work
[14:53] <thiner> compiz to work
[14:54] <manners> does no one in here use ushare
[14:54] <Basso> thiner, it not funk?
[14:54] <bs> Basso, what do you mean? the cam work perfect on windows xp
[14:54] <Sidewinder1> mneptok, OK, read the 'about' htop in Synaptic; sounds kewl; Mega-thanks!!
[14:55] <thiner> i click on the effects and stuff and nothing works still the same
[14:56] <jiltdil> HOw to learn oracle pl/sql under ubuntu?
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> jiltdil  a book or an online tutorial
[14:57] <somov> hi all
[14:57] <jiltdil> MonkeyDust,  i mean  software name where can i learn on linux
[14:57]  * mneptok bows to Sidewinder1 
[14:57] <somov> can smb help me to fix one problem? when I load xubuntu - appears menu asking me to choose between xubuntu and xfce session. is it possible to skip this menu?
[14:57] <Basso> bs, the problem is that i cant help you with that problem ^^, i have never experienzed something like that before
[14:58] <Basso> somov, autologin?
[14:58]  * Sidewinder1 Installed htop; running now. WOW! mneptok "You Da Man!"
[14:58] <manners> dmesg
[14:58] <manners> oops sorry wrong place
[14:58] <somov> Basso, yes, maybe
[14:58] <Basso> Sidewinder1, htop is porn
[14:58] <Basso> somov, try to enable auto login in xubuntu then :)
[14:59] <Sidewinder1> Basso, Heh,..
[14:59] <somov> Basso, and how to do it? in terminal?
[14:59] <Basso> ahhhh
[15:00] <Sidewinder1> mneptok, Will there be any difference between sudo htop, and just htop? And is either recommended?
[15:00] <Basso> somov, i have no idea, use the power of google
[15:01] <Basso> Sidewinder1, it will be no difference
[15:01] <somov> Basso, ok I will try. thanks
[15:01] <Sidewinder1> Thanks.
[15:01] <Basso> Sidewinder1, sudo is bad, root is bad, too much power, mankind is not ready for that kind of power yet
[15:02] <mongy> somov,  edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and add autologin-user=youruser
[15:02] <Sidewinder1> sudo Basso.. ;-)
[15:02] <mongy> ugh, wish people would stick around more than 5 seconds.
[15:03] <Sidewinder1> mongy, Yea, things happen kinda' fast, in here.
[15:03] <Basso> i dont even run ubuntu, have to wait for my new laptop
[15:03] <Sidewinder1> Basso, Shame on you.. ;_)
[15:03] <Basso> omg, ubuntu left ubuntu
[15:04] <Sidewinder1> Now, where will we be?
[15:04] <Basso> Sidewinder1, its not my fault, not yet atleast
[15:04] <Sidewinder1> :D
[15:05] <Staticlv> where is the documentation I need in order to share folders between two ubuntu machines?
[15:05] <pooltable> help have xfce install but there is a small line on the top on the of the bottom the screen thing how do i remove it ?
[15:06] <Sidewinder1> Basso, All kidding aside; as I'm sure you're well aware, sudo is an absolute necessity for some tasks. ;-)
[15:06] <MonkeyDust> Staticlv  https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/internet/C/networking-shares.html
[15:06] <Ritchie_Z> hello everyone
[15:06] <shirt> hello
[15:06] <Sidewinder1> Hi
[15:06] <shirt> Staticlv: use NFS for share two unix machines
[15:06] <Caifas> Hello
[15:07] <Basso> Sidewinder1, no you can manage just fine without sudo, you just have to compile everything from scratch, and if the applications wont run without sudo, its malware
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> Caifas  ! the biblical high priest!
[15:07] <Caifas> :p
[15:07] <Staticlv> shirt and MonkeyDust- thank you I have some reading to do.
[15:07] <Sidewinder1> Basso, Huh, then how would one edit root config. files?
[15:08] <Ritchie_Z> is here someone who tried installing xfce on ubuntu 11.10 because it got very slow after upgrading from 11.04? (I am just wondering whether it solves the problem)
[15:08] <shirt> Ritchie_Z: yeah, i'm using xfce now
[15:08] <Sidewinder1> BRB.
[15:08] <Basso> Sidewinder1, you dont, because you dont need to, and if you feel the need to do it you are slowly admitting you are insane
[15:09] <Sidewinder1> Yes, there is that..
[15:09] <Caifas> Guys, i need to re master ubuntu 10.04, remove some packages, add some and also add a custom depository, is there a tool or something you can point me to?
[15:09]  * Basso-Food away
[15:09] <Ritchie_Z> shirt: and did ubuntu get slow for you after the upgrade as well?
[15:09] <Basso-Food> brb, i need to eat free food
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> Caifas  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[15:10] <Ritchie_Z> shirt: ok then, I will swich then too till this problem gets solved..
[15:10] <shirt> Ritchie_Z: you should configure out what caused that... i don't think my sistem get slow after upgrade to development branch, precise
[15:11] <Caifas> Ty MonkeyDust
[15:11] <Ritchie_Z> shirt: well, I have already checked the forums about the problem and people with different types of PCs are having the same problem, even after a fresh install ubuntu is almost unusable... there wasn't a single problem with 11.04
[15:12] <manners> hmm think this netbook is going dolally, i do ushare stop and it tells me eth-0 is down so failed i then try ushare start  and again eth-0 is down however i can still play all the media on it
[15:12] <shirt> Ritchie_Z: i have no use 11.04 release, i'm switched from 10.04 to 12.04
[15:12] <Cogito446> With xfce on 10.04 and propietary drivers for ati, youtube videos freeze. HTML5 video work. Change to open source video drivers and work ok but hdmi to 2nd monitor don´t work. Any sugestion?
[15:13] <Ritchie_Z> shirt: oh, I see... I have been using 11.04, worked almost perfectly and I thought I was a good idea to upgrade.. it wasn't...
[15:13] <shirt> Ritchie_Z: likes Cogito446 says, maybe related with your graphics problems
[15:13] <Ritchie_Z> shirt: I was using more precisely
[15:15] <Ritchie_Z> shirt: but what could be the problem with my graphics? I never had any problem with 11.04 or any distribution using the same integrated Ati video card (it is an IBM laptop)
[15:15] <shirt> Ritchie_Z: are you using proprietari ati driver or opensource one ?
[15:16] <Ritchie_Z> shirt: well, I am using the one that got installed with ubuntu.. I guess it must the open source one...
[15:16] <Ritchie_Z> shirt: I did not change anything as far as the drivers are concerned, ubuntu is using its drivers from the kernel
[15:18] <shirt> Ritchie_Z: okey... maybe other problems... you should analyze your system to figure out this problem.. look at log maybe help you what caused that
[15:19] <Ritchie_Z> shirt: ok, thanks.. I will figure out something.. or switch to another distro, mint e.g.
[15:19] <bs> any one can help me add the xp partion the ubuntu 11.10 grup
[15:19] <shirt> bs: exactly, what is your problem ?
[15:20] <MonkeyDust> bs  a lot af questions, first time you use ubuntu?
[15:20] <bs> MonkeyDust, yes dust it's my first time
[15:20] <bs> Shirt,i can't load windows xp from the ubuntu load screen only windows 7
[15:21] <debian_noob> bs, windows7 loader should be able to boot xp
[15:21] <shirt> Ritchie_Z: can you pastebin your top output on slow machines
[15:22] <domenicobenigno> :)
[15:22] <bs> debian_noob, it just boot win 7
[15:22] <Ritchie_Z> shirt: sorry, I can't understand it.. the link of the forum discussing the problem you mean?
[15:22] <debian_noob> have you tried booting into windows 7?
[15:23] <pooltable> i got this line on  my dexk top i do not know where it camr from how do it get rid of it ?
[15:23] <pooltable> desk
[15:24] <debian_noob> pooltable, more specific please
[15:24] <shirt> Ritchie_Z: i mean output from $top command, paste it on paste.ubuntu.com or pastebin.com... place link here
[15:25] <pooltable> there is small line on my desk top i not sure where it came from i change the image the line is still there i want to remove the line
[15:25] <debian_noob> pooltable, screenshot please
[15:25] <pooltable> debin how do i do that?
[15:26] <debian_noob> press printscreen and upload the image on imageshack.us
[15:27] <Ritchie_Z> shirt: ok, i get it.. one moment, I am trying out mint now, I will switch to ubuntu
[15:27] <pooltable> debin how do i post it here ?
[15:27] <iceroot> !screenshot | pooltable
[15:28] <Sidewinder1> debian_noob, I pressed 'print-screen' and nothinh happened. I know how to do it the GUI/Menu way... Did you set up a hot-key config for prt-scrn?
[15:29] <Sidewinder1> nothing, even.
[15:29] <debian_noob> Sidewinder1, check your home director
[15:29] <debian_noob> *directory
[15:29] <debian_noob> there will be a png image
[15:30] <Ritchie_Z> hello again :)
[15:30] <shirt> helo
[15:31] <pooltable> debin look here http://imagebin.org/191369
[15:31] <Sidewinder1> debian_noob, Chkd /home, there's several screenshot.pngs, but they're from a couple of months ago; nothing current; let me search..
[15:33] <Ritchie_Z> shirt: I've done it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/790615/
[15:33] <jihaduallahu> hello, how do i backup grub 2's boot list ? i need to install xp and then restore the old bootloader
[15:33] <tata> how can I use lubuntu on old pc with serial mouse?
[15:33] <shirt> Ritchie_Z: wait a minute
[15:33] <iceroot> tata: by installing it
[15:33] <debian_noob> pooltable, the two white lines?
[15:34] <pooltable> debin yes
[15:34] <tata> but lubuntu not support old serial mouse?
[15:34] <shirt> Ritchie_Z:  i don't look strange on your output
[15:34] <iceroot> tata: of course it does like any other ubuntu-version
[15:34] <iceroot> tata: and every other GNU/Linux version
[15:35] <Sidewinder1> debian_noob, iceroot That's strange, just searched /home (after hitting 'Print Screen" key) and search returned nothing, other than the .pngs from several months ago; I'm wondering if I need to set-up/config, my PrintScreen key?
[15:35] <debian_noob> Sidewinder1, strange,you using GNOME?
[15:35] <tata> I try and my mouse not move
[15:35] <debian_noob> pooltable, strange..try changing your wallpaper
[15:35] <iceroot> Sidewinder1: you can also use "gnome-screenshot"
[15:35] <muthukumar> any one here know hacking
[15:35] <iceroot> muthukumar: wikipedia
[15:35] <Sidewinder1> debian_noob, Yes, Gnome2, 10.04 32-bit desktop.
[15:36] <pooltable> i did that but i will change it to show you
[15:36] <drel> hello guys
[15:36] <debian_noob> Sidewinder1, okay then maybe lxde is different
[15:36] <Sidewinder1> iceroot, Yes, I know how to do it from menus, just wondering why prt-scrn doesn't work. Not really a problem, just curious.
[15:36] <muthukumar> hi debian will you teach me
[15:37] <Ritchie_Z> shirt: but when I am opening programmes, they open much slower than they used to in 11.04... I usually use many programmes at the same time (browsing -- facebook, gplus, other sites, banshee opened, pidgin opened, youtube videos, copying files, thunderbird open)
[15:37] <iceroot> Sidewinder1: sorry dont know
[15:37] <iceroot> !ot | muthukumar
[15:37] <drel> what's the rule here ... how can I ask you, gurus, a question
[15:37] <iceroot> !ask | drel
[15:37] <Sidewinder1> iceroot, debian_noob Thanks for your time, anyway. :D
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> drel  ask a question and wait for an answer
[15:38] <Sidewinder1> Just don't be too demanding.. ;-)
[15:38] <pooltable> debin c here it is http://imagebin.org/191371
[15:38] <shirt> Ritchie_Z: open up your terminal, execute $sudo tail -f /var/log/messages and open some application, look at messages, if there are something can be analyzed
[15:38] <Ritchie_Z> shirt: maybe I should try with a fresh install, but that is something I wanted to avoid, because I am using this machine for work... but I have learned the lesson again, that when something is working fine, one must never upgrade...
[15:38] <BussDriver> Hi all and happy new year!  I can't boot into my ubuntu 11.10 laptop anymore.. my X.org log just says "Fatal server error:  127.379] no screens found"  Could anyone please help?
[15:39] <muthukumar> any one know how to install hauwai wireless modem in ubuntu
[15:39] <Ritchie_Z> shirt: ok, I will try that...
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> pooltable  looks like a hardware issue, is it an old screen
[15:39] <Sidewinder1> pooltable, My goodness, your desktop is sideways..
[15:39] <shirt> muthukumar: you mean huawei usb modem ??
[15:39] <muthukumar> yes
[15:40] <pooltable> side desk sideways  ????
[15:40] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: what does a old screen with a hardware issue has to do with a screenshot?
[15:40] <pooltable> monkey old but not that old
[15:40] <muthukumar> shirt: do you know ?
[15:40] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: a screenshot is always software-based and not related to the monitor
[15:40] <jihaduallahu> where is grub2 located in order to backup and restore later?
[15:41] <MonkeyDust> iceroot  i was thinking, the screen  may be physically damaged
[15:41] <shirt> muthukumar: yeah, i'm using usb huawei modem this time
[15:41] <drel> I need some advice about the logitech g300 issue which is worked around here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/63283/logitech-g300-not-working-on-ubuntu . My question is does anyone know what might be pulling the cursor as there is no such key on the board. Besides I tried disabling all other KBDs except the g300 mouse and the issue remains ... so this is no overlapping issue
[15:41] <iceroot> jihaduallahu: /etc/default/grub
[15:41] <Sidewinder1> pooltable, I'd go into your favorite image-editing software (gimp or f-spot) and flip the image, than save it, then reload it onto your desktop..
[15:41] <debian_noob> MonkeyDust, doesnt matter
[15:41] <pooltable> sidewinder i see it is just the pic i
[15:41] <jihaduallahu> iceroot, is there any special way to backup ?
[15:41] <jihaduallahu> or just copy paste
[15:41] <iceroot> jihaduallahu: only copy the file
[15:42] <jihaduallahu> thanks
[15:42] <muthukumar> Shirt: i am trying to install that but i can't
[15:42] <iceroot> jihaduallahu: but normally grub does not need a backup, it will reread all the needed things (if you did not change anything like boot-parameters)
[15:42] <pooltable> sidewinder i know i do not like that one just use it to show the line on my desk top does not move
[15:42]  * Basso-Food away
[15:42] <shirt> muthukumar: what series huawei modem you have ?
[15:42] <jihaduallahu> iceroot, i need to install xp, and then come back to my original win7/ubuntu listing
[15:43] <Sidewinder1> pooltable, OIC, the white line in the lower right hand corner; hmm.., may be a hardware issue. I know that's not what you want to hear. :-(
[15:43] <muthukumar> Shirt: series i don't know. that is reliance net connect+
[15:44] <BlackSailer> ciao a tutti
[15:44] <MonkeyDust> list?
[15:44] <patrickmann> Ignore this, folks - just testing this XChat app for the first time.
[15:44] <BlackSailer> !List
[15:44] <shirt> muthukumar: are you sure you didn't know your modem ?
[15:44] <Sidewinder1> pooltable, I assume that if you open that pic in another program, the 'white-line', is not there?
[15:45] <muthukumar> Shirt: one minutes
[15:45] <Ritchie_Z> shirt: I don't get any messages with that command :D
[15:45] <Sidewinder1> patrickmann, It's workin'. ;-)
[15:46] <yellabs-r2> hello there
[15:46] <Sidewinder1> Hi
[15:46] <Ritchie_Z> shirt: but the system itself is a bit faster now somehow :D but I am using unity 2d now
[15:47] <Sidewinder1> pooltable, It also appears that you are in the same time zone as I.
[15:47] <shirt> Ritchie_Z: maybe a lot of proccess unneeded run on your system
[15:47] <yellabs-r2> i have got an samsung cp-315 and the cups drivers that ubuntu has on board, now the laser prints are just to dark, is there an way to improve that ?
[15:47] <debian_noob> pooltable, try tty1?
[15:47] <debian_noob> the line still there?
[15:47] <Staticlv> is there an updated version of ailurus or computer janitor for 11.10?
[15:47] <muthukumar> Shirt: that is Huawei EC 1260
[15:48] <dr_willis> yellabs-r2:  use the cups printer config tools/web interface and see if theres any settings you can change.
[15:48] <kag_anil> can anyone tell me how to fix bugs ?? i mean where to start??
[15:48] <dr_willis> !cups
[15:48] <yellabs-r2> ok
[15:48] <dr_willis> kag_anil:  start by being a good bug reporter. :)
[15:48] <dr_willis> !bugs
[15:49] <Sidewinder1> dr_willis, Hey, don.
[15:49] <Ritchie_Z> shirt: I don't know.... maybe I'll just do a fresh install and if it won't help, I'll be using 11.04 forever :D
[15:49] <Sidewinder1> doc, even
[15:49] <pooltable> debin what is tty1 ??
[15:50] <shirt> muthukumar: i think this device detected by network manager applet automagically
[15:51] <debian_noob> pooltable, press ctrl+alt+f1 and see if the line is there, then press ctrl alt f8 to get back
[15:51] <sean-w> How is AMD 3D graphiics support compaired to nVidia?
[15:51] <craigbass1976> Anyone set up radicale in lucid?
[15:51] <iceroot> sean-w: amd support is not as good as nvidia-support for the non-free drivers with 3d-support
[15:51] <iceroot> !anyone | craigbass1976
[15:52] <kag_anil> dr_willis: kk i'll start from there :), thanx
[15:52] <dr_willis> sean-w:  personally... id stick to nvidia.
[15:52] <shirt> Ritchie_Z: output from $ps aux or $pstree could help
[15:53] <debian_noob> sean-w, nVidia has better drivers
[15:53] <Isilion> hiya! im looking for a decompiler/dissasembler to attempt to watch the code of a suspicious .exe (i heard of 'uncc', but it's not on the repos)
[15:53] <rlg> seanbright: for ubuntu nvidia is better! i was having problems installing the catalyst driver. Had to purge all
[15:54] <dr_willis> Isilion:  decompiling a windows executable? or a linux one?
[15:54] <sean-w> I'm a bit annoyed with the nVidia drivers on the windows side though (I use both). The nVida drivers would crash firefox and civ 5
[15:54] <Ritchie_Z> shirt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/790632/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/790633/
[15:54] <Isilion> dr_willis: it seems to be a win32 application
[15:55] <dr_willis> Isilion:  you may want to check in #windows then. Or test it out in a virtualbox/wine setup and see what it does..
[15:55] <nbubuntu> hi , I would like to know can ubuntu 11.10 .iso burn into a dvd ? because I wanted a faster installation time for it to read/write ?
[15:55] <nbubuntu> does it boot as live cd too ?
[15:55] <drel> sean-w: I think that the driver support is better for nVidia, but their cards  ... I dont like. I have ATI/AMD and I am not changing it
[15:55] <nbubuntu> thank you :)
[15:56] <Isilion> dr_willis: ok
[15:56] <dr_willis> nbubuntu:  the desktop cd release - goes to a desktop. :)   the 'dvd' release has more language supported and a few other littlt things. most people dont need the dvd version.
[15:56] <shirt> Ritchie_Z: are you using multiple desktop environment ?
[15:56] <sean-w> drel: Are the opensource drivers for AMD enough for light duty 3D?
[15:57] <nbubuntu> dr_willis : sorry , I mean can a desktop cd release burn into a dvd rather than cd ?
[15:57] <dr_willis> nbubuntu:  ive heard you can burn a cd iso to a dvd disk and it should work.. but ive heard mixxed results on it actually working.
[15:57] <Ritchie_Z> shirt: I don't know about that... I know that when unity started lagging, I installed the gnome shell too so I have gnome3 and unity installed..
[15:57] <dr_willis> nbubuntu:  for a fastest install put the iso on a flash drive.
[15:57] <nbubuntu> dr_willis : but does ubuntu boot as live cd on flash drive ?
[15:58] <dr_willis> nbubuntu:  or the fastest ive seen.. set up grub2 on a hard drive and have that boot the iso from a hard drive.. and install to a 2nd hd.
[15:58] <debian_noob> nbubuntu, yes it does?
[15:58] <arinov> if empathy works 2-3 hours and unread message cue becomes big i have very serious problems with performance
[15:58] <Ritchie_Z> shirt: with gnome3 and unity 2d the system is not so slow that I start pulling out all my hair....
[15:58] <dr_willis> nbubuntu:  same as the cd boots.
[15:58] <arinov> how can i fix it?
[15:58] <drel> sean-w: probably :D What's light duty
[15:58] <Duality> hi all
[15:59] <sean-w> drel: kwin effects, maybe some webGL?
[15:59] <nbubuntu> dr_willis : btw , other question , if a person doesn't have a hard drive , can ubuntu be install on a usb flash drive ? how well does it perform ? just for temp
[15:59] <Sidewinder1> Duality, Greetings.
[15:59] <dr_willis> sean-w:  for low end/mid range - if buying a new card. Id say go with nvidia. the costs/power of the 2 brands are very close at that market segment.
[15:59] <nbubuntu> dr_willis : or an external usb hard disk ?
[15:59] <dr_willis> nbubuntu:  i do full installs to extenal usb flash, or usb hard drives all the time. works fine. it is slower at times.. but works fine for me.
[16:00] <dr_willis> nbubuntu:  be SURE to tell the grub installer to install to the external device.
[16:00] <nbubuntu> dr_willis : really ! O.o ?
[16:00] <dr_willis> unless you want the system to not boot when the device is removed. :)
[16:00] <dr_willis> nbubuntu:  its worked from external media ver well for the last several releases for me.
[16:00] <Ritchie_Z> blackshirt, but now as I am using it, it is better than it used to be... maybe it got scared when I started linux mint from USB :D
[16:00] <dr_willis> My main ubuntu desktop box is on a 32gb flash drive i move from machine to other
[16:01] <drel> sean-w: I see, but I am not very familiar with the subject. However I believe it mostly depends on how old the video is as good drivers come with time, but not for really new cards
[16:02] <blackshirt> Ritchie_Z: okey... if you have experienced with this system, i'm sure you can figure it out and solve this :D
[16:02] <dr3mro> hello , how to get a list of supported mime types that gedit can read ???
[16:02] <sean-w> dr_willis: That's what i've noticed, however, I'm getting tired of the nVidia drivers breaking things on Windows. I wonder if AMD drivers on the windows side are better? I suppose this is the wrong place to ask that question.
[16:02] <dr_willis> sean-w:  cant say ive noticesd them breaking anything on windows.
[16:03] <Sidewinder1> sean-w, You're not using WUBI, are you?
[16:03] <dr_willis> ati and nvidia both seem to just half-way do their drivers.. they are always too focused on getting the next big thing out and out marketing each other.
[16:03] <Sidewinder1> dr_willis, +1 to that!
[16:04] <drel> dr_willis: they do break ... mainly your frag ingame income :D
[16:04] <dr_willis> I stick with nvidia. because they seem to work better for me. ages ago i had ATI. and just had way to many issues with them on windows and MAJOR issues on linux. but this is 5+ yrs ago now that ive only done NVIDIA basically
[16:04] <Ritchie_Z> blackshirt, well, as I am not really familiar with the structure of the system that deep that I can start looking for the cause of the problem, I will just do a fresh install tomorrow, if nothing changes, I'll go back to 11.04 :) my problem is that I am using a dual-boot system with winXP and therefore I don't like messing with the boot manager and the partitions...
[16:05] <sean-w> Sidewinder1: Nope, true dual boot. I use kubuntu for everything but gaming :)
[16:05] <melissa33> Hello, I have ubuntu 11.04 on an NFS root (rw). I have issues with firefox. it runs well but causes a kernel oops when I exit it. Every other program seem to be running fine. I believe it may be something to do with the export parameters of my nfs root. anybody can help with it ?
[16:06] <blackshirt> Ritchie_Z: good luck guys :D
[16:06] <Sidewinder1> sean-w, Thank goodness!
[16:06] <nbubuntu> dr_willis : I think I need a guide .
[16:06] <Ritchie_Z> blackshirt, thanks for you help :D at least i have learned a couple of new commands today
[16:07] <dr_willis> nbubuntu:  guide for what?
[16:08] <nbubuntu> dr_willis : installation to install ubuntu into a flash drive
[16:08] <blackshirt> Ritchie_Z: okey.. great works, for some time, upgrade or update can solve the problem, but maybe for other was not
[16:08] <dr_willis> nbubuntu:  works the same as to a internal hd. You could even unplug your internal hds if you wanted.
[16:08] <melvincv> My graphics driver just crashed, I'm running Xubuntu and have an Intel 845GL chipset. dmesg output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/790648/
[16:09] <nbubuntu> dr_willis : as simple as installation into a hard disk ?
[16:09] <dr_willis> nbubuntu:   i manually pariton the external how i need. normally just a / and a swap partition. and use the pulldown item to be sure grub is going to the external usb. and let it go.
[16:09] <dr_willis> nbubuntu:  identical install.
[16:10] <dr_willis> nbubuntu:  i normally make a live usb. i boot and plug in the other usb.. so i have both plugged in and install from one to the other.
[16:10] <nbubuntu> dr_willis : Long story short , having friends with tight budget , his drive fail and send for warranty..Temp solution is to wait :( Having an external hard disk but was occupied with files with only single partition. Only option is either boot from a live dvd .iso or install ubuntu on a flash drive.
[16:10] <Ritchie_Z> blackshirt, yes, in the last years distro upgrades usually make everything horrible instead of better.... I wish the xubuntu times back with 9.04 and 9.10... updates went smooth and I always got a better system.. nowadays I don't...
[16:11] <dr_willis> nbubuntu:  a 16 to 32gb external usb is very useable..  a live cd+persistant setup on usb is decntly useable as a short term answer also.
[16:11] <nbubuntu> dr_willis : which mean the minimum is 16GB ?
[16:11] <dr_willis> if you wanted to get fancy you could use 2+ usb/flash and have /home/ on its own parittion :)
[16:12] <dr_willis> nbubuntu:  ive done it in as small as 4gb flash.. but space will be very tight.
[16:12] <dr_willis> nbubuntu:  i happened to find 16gb flash on sale for $16 one day. and 32gb on sale for $32 :)
[16:12] <Kwa> cześć
[16:12] <ed209> I use XFCE for my desktop. When it starts conky pops up. I want to figure out which config fiel I need to edit to stop this from hapening. Is there a way to do this?
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> ed209: look in ~/.config/autostart
[16:13] <dr_willis> ed209:  check the ~/.config/autostart/  directory yet?
[16:13] <bencc> I'm trying to install ubuntu 11.10 but it can't connect to my Ethernet switch. What can I do to fix it?
[16:13] <dr_willis> bencc:  you are talking about a normal wired connection?
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> bencc: what ethernet chip are you using?
[16:13] <nbubuntu> dr_willis : Ok ,thanks again :) , he had a 4gb , will ask him to get a 16GB :)
[16:13] <ed209> I will try that now. Thanks!
[16:14] <bencc> dr_willis:
[16:14] <bencc> ActionParsnip: on the Edimax device or in my laptop?
[16:14] <muthukumar> how to connect ftb through ubuntu
[16:14] <melvincv> My display is flickering. Please help me, see http://paste.ubuntu.com/790648/
[16:14] <dr_willis> nbubuntu:  you can do a useable live+pereisatant file to a 4gb. but dont expect to be able to update/upgrade it to the latest updates.. it will fill up real fast.
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> bencc: on the system
[16:15] <bencc> ActionParsnip: laptop or switch? what is the system?
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> melvincv: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> bencc: the laptop, the switch is moot
[16:15] <nbubuntu> dr_willis :" useable live+pereisatant" ?  erm , sorry ?
[16:15] <dr_willis> nbubuntu:  you can set up a Live-cd on flash with a 'save' file.  to keep changes.
[16:16] <theadmin> !ftp | muthukumar]\
[16:16] <melvincv> ActionParsnip: oneiric
[16:16] <dr_willis> !live
[16:16] <theadmin> !ftp | muthukumar
[16:16] <theadmin> Silly keyboard
[16:16] <bencc> ActionParsnip: how can I check what chip the laptop has?
[16:16] <muthukumar> teach me hacking
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> bencc: sudo lshw -C network
[16:16] <nbubuntu> dr_willis : is that so ! :D then it'd be great.But it doesn't keep the setting right ?
[16:16] <dr_willis> nbubuntu:  the pendrivelinux web site, or the unetbootin or the ubuntu disk-creator tool can do this for you.
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> muthukumar: that's offtopic here
[16:16] <theadmin> muthukumar: Illegal discussions are not to be done on this network.
[16:17] <blackshirt> muthukumar: you have a lot of exercise for that
[16:17] <dr_willis> nbubuntu:  with a peristant save file.. it does.
[16:17] <bencc> ActionParsnip: is there a way to open a terminal during installation?
[16:17] <dr_willis> nbubuntu:  thats the whole point of the safe file its  more then just a live-cd, but less then a full install.
[16:17] <bencc> ActionParsnip: or do I have to restart and "try ubuntu"?
[16:17] <nbubuntu> dr_willis : thanks :) search it now.
[16:18] <theadmin> bencc: You can press Ctrl-Alt-F2, log in as "ubuntu"
[16:18] <meerkats> right now in my screen there is an "embed shockwave" window without minimize or close icons that wont disappear. I cannot force quit firefox, any suggestions?
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> bencc: press CTRL+ALT+T
[16:18] <theadmin> bencc: If you need a GUI terminal, after thatm in the TTY, run DISPLAY=:0 gnome-terminal
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: ALT+F4 maybe
[16:18] <meerkats> if I want to open new applications, this mentioned window will always appear before, be always visible
[16:18] <dr_willis> meerkats:  use terminal   'xkill' command and click on the annoying window. :) perhaps.
[16:18] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: You think that works during the install? I doubt it
[16:19] <dr_willis> meerkats:  or alternatvely 'killall firefox' perhaps.
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: if you selected 'Test Ubuntu' then it will
[16:19] <meerkats> altf4 worked like a charm, thanks ActionParsnip
[16:19] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: It's stated that (s)he selected "Install Ubuntu"
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: works in many OSes, same as Windows
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: I see, hmmm
[16:20] <meerkats> i dont care bout windows
[16:21]  * dr_willis washes his windows and puts plastick film over them for the winter....
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: its the same control, is all I'm saying
[16:22] <bencc> ActionParsnip:  PCI (sysfs)
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> bencc: give it time, your PCI bus is slow
[16:23] <magicblaze007> I want the user to be not able to login, but be able to create tunnels. How can I do this? I am trying to use "bash -r". Is there anything better i can use?
[16:24] <bencc> ActionParsnip: what info do you need from there?
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> bencc: you need the product line, you can then seek guides
[16:24] <bencc> ActionParsnip: Realtek Semiconductor Co., LTD
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> bencc: or try:  lspci | grep -i eth
[16:25] <bencc> ActionParsnip: product: RTL-8139/8139C... this?
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> bencc: yea that's your ethernet chip, search the web to find guides for that
[16:25] <bencc> cool thanks
[16:26] <dr_willis> Thats a fairly common chip.  i do recall there being like 2 differnt modules for it at one time.
[16:26] <blackshirt> bencc: if it your realtek 8193 chip series, you can use 8193 or 8193too driver
[16:26] <JustSighDudes> Why does apt-get not show me the most recent versions on launchpad? Or is that not how it works?
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> bencc: head back if you don't get anywhere
[16:26] <dr_willis> I recall one box i had. I had to blacklist the 8139 module and force the usssage of teh 8139too module.
[16:26] <bencc> ActionParsnip: thanks
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> JustSighDudes: the repos and ppas you have have told you the versions they have, they may not have the latest releases on
[16:27] <bencc> blackshirt: how can I install the driver without internet connection?
[16:27] <dr_willis> bencc:  does 'sudo lsmod | grep 8139' show either module loaded?
[16:27] <bencc> blackshirt: just install ubuntu and than manually put the driver deb?
[16:27] <dr_willis> the 8139* stuff should allready be included.
[16:27] <JustSighDudes> ActionParsnip: Can I add stuff? eg: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/i386/perl-base/5.12.4-2
[16:27] <blackshirt> bencc: usually,it has already available on installed ubuntu
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> JustSighDudes: are you using Oneiric?
[16:28] <bencc> dr_willis: 8139too and 8139cp
[16:28] <JustSighDudes> ActionParsnip: Yes.
[16:28] <bencc> this is my device: RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
[16:28] <bencc> and I'm trying ubuntu 11.10
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> JustSighDudes: then you can install the deb if you want
[16:29] <Gentoo64> bencc, what problem are you having?
[16:29] <JustSighDudes> ActionParsnip: It keeps making me download different files. This is probably the dependency hell I hear about.
[16:29] <JustSighDudes> ActionParsnip: This is like the 5 file in the chain so far.
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> JustSighDudes: try:  sudo apt-get -f install      I suggest you find a PPA to use
[16:29] <dr_willis> bencc:  you could try removing both modules (sudo rmmod 8139cp, sudo rmmod 8139too)   and loading ONE  and see if the dmesg output sees/starts up the nic.
[16:29] <bencc> Gentoo64: can't connect to Ethernet switch
[16:30] <Oer> bencc did you try reset the router/switch ?
[16:30] <dr_willis> seems odd that both modules are loaded.. unless one somehow loads the other these days.
[16:30] <bencc> Oer: I'm connected with a win7 machine now. Do I still need to restart it?
[16:30] <Gentoo64> dr_willis, its normal
[16:30] <Gentoo64> for the cp to load as well
[16:30] <dr_willis> i haventhad one of those chipsets in 5+ years
[16:31] <bencc> dr_willis:  this looks similar to what you suggest http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1092687
[16:31] <Gentoo64> i borrowed a laptop the other day that had that nic, and both those were loaded and it worked
[16:31] <dr_willis> I hope everyone did check the cables first... :)
[16:32] <dr_willis> Hopefully  the new Xmas Puppy dident use one as a chew toy. (had that happen)
[16:32] <JustSighDudes> ActionParsnip: Where exactly do I look for PPAs?
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> !ppa
[16:33] <snivitz> !addppa
[16:33] <nbubuntu> dr_willis : found , as simple as that ? http://www.pendrivelinux.com/creating-an-ubuntu-live-usb-from-cd/ ? thanks :)
[16:34] <anand> !ls
[16:36] <hannes_> hi there! I modified $PATH to include /var/lib/gems/1.9.1/bin (globally via /etc/profile ). Now I want someone to execute bundle (which is in this folder) via sudo without having to type his password. Therefore I allowed the use of "/var/lib/gems/1.9.1/bin/bundle" in /etc/sudoers. This works well if the user executes `sudo /path/to/bundle` but not if he uses `sudo bundle` (without the fully qualified path). Can someone tell me how this can be
[16:36] <hannes_> done?
[16:40] <Caifas> guys, I was searching for a tool to re master ubuntu and I found these utilities "Remastersys" and "ubuntu customization kit" but they say its to remaster livecd, I in need of a install cd customization, anyone know if its possible to do that with one of this tools?
[16:42] <nbubuntu> dr_willis : thanks again :) gtg will tell him about it :D
[16:42] <theadmin> Caifas: LiveCDs are installable. Just make sure you "apt-get install ubiquity" on the system you remaster.
[16:42] <yeats> !remaster | Caifas
[16:43] <s0cket> hello, I have a problem with my installation. I can select from menu options, but as soon as I pick something, install just freezes, pressing anything other than ctrl+alt+del doesn't work. I can choose the "other options" before selecting anything from menu list, maybe there is an option to switch to text-mode or verbose, so it would output all the errors, because I really don't want to download
[16:43] <s0cket> the whole distro again just for text install. Distro version: 11.10 server edition 32bit
[16:43] <Caifas> Ty guys
[16:44] <s0cket> also, other versions such as 11.04 and 10.04 LTS worked just fine
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> s0cket: does it go to a black screen
[16:45] <s0cket> no, it just freezes at the purple menu
[16:45] <rodhash> Hello gusy...
[16:45] <rodhash> how can I convert doc to pdf on ubuntu??
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> s0cket: what video chip do you use?
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> rodhash: open the file in libreoffice then print to the pdf printer
[16:45] <s0cket> sorry, I really don't know but I'll take a wild guess that it's intel integrated
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> s0cket: try the boot option: nomodeset       see if it helps
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> rodhash: I found this too: http://superuser.com/questions/156189/how-to-convert-word-doc-to-pdf-in-linux
[16:49] <s0cket> ActionParsnip: I gave it about 2 minutes, still stuck
[16:51] <MrKeuner> hello, how can I keep my ubuntu box awake while hours long virus scan is complete?
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> s0cket: or try:  xforcevesa
[16:54] <rypervenche> MrKeuner: As long as you want.
[16:55] <mkanyicy> MrKeuner, does it go on standby? are you on AC power or battery power?
[16:55] <s0cket> it was a problem with display after all, I see some text wrtitten in small green letters overlaying the purple menu, same bug I experienced with debian installer, and thank you, I'll try it now
[16:56] <MrKeuner> mkanyicy, ac power but I set it to suspend on 1 hour of inactivity. I'd like to block that remotely when running virus scan
[16:57] <mkanyicy> MrKeuner, rather remove the suspend option when you are on AC power
[16:57] <mkanyicy> MrKeuner, is there a reason you want your laptop to suspend while its on ac power?
[16:58] <dr_willis> i wonder how 'inactivity' is defined.
[16:59] <s0cket> no input from mouse or keyboard?
[17:01] <mkanyicy> dr_willis, inactivity == idling in this context, i guess
[17:02] <s0cket> ActionParsnip: it's still stuck at the menu, I guess it will be easier to re-download text-only version
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> s0cket: could be needed
[17:04] <Igmu> video problem...
[17:05] <dr_willis> Igmu:  a bit more details would be handy......
[17:05] <MrKeuner> mkanyicy, this is a desktop
[17:05] <Igmu> I have used linux for less than a year so I have a little understanding of commandline, GUI, file structure, etc. I started with Ubuntu 10.04 64bit on a laptop with a NVIDIA video card. I gradually upgraded to 11.10 64bit which changed the dm from gdm to lightdm. Now when I boot up, I can't get passed the Ubuntu boot screen. The NVIDIA module disappeared. I stopped X, the nouvea service, ran
[17:05] <Igmu> the latest shell script from NVIDIA, rebooted... Still, I only get Ubuntu boot screen. When I StartX, the only change is now I get NVIDIA splash then black screen with pointer.
[17:06] <MrKeuner> mkanyicy, I do not want it to spend energy when not in use
[17:06] <s0cket> I left it sit with xforcevesa for a while, and now  I'm seing purple and green stripes with noise movement, downloading alternate cd now
[17:06] <mkanyicy> MrKeuner, ok
[17:06] <s0cket> thanks for the support, anyway
[17:07] <MrKeuner> is there a terminal command to block suspend
[17:07] <wadkar> I am on a 11.10 ubuntu minimal installation
[17:07] <wadkar> I need to configure my wired eth0 via command line
[17:08] <wadkar> I seem to have forgotten the exact commands, I am trying " ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.177 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 up "
[17:08] <snivitz> Is there a way getting sound working on Ubuntu Server 11.10 without installing ubuntu-desktop?
[17:08] <wadkar> after that I think I have to add a route to my routing table
[17:08] <techfreak> wadkar ifconfig --help
[17:08] <wadkar> but I am not sure how to achieve that
[17:09] <T0mM> Is there a mirror list for ubuntu?
[17:09] <T0mM> So i can install it on xen.
[17:09] <wadkar> techfreak: the eth1 is up, but I am not sure about the routing table
[17:10] <dr_willis> Igmu:  try adding a new user as a test case 'sudo adduser billgates'    and see if you can login in as that user and if the Desktop works.
[17:13] <craigbass1976> Anyone set up radicale in lucid?
[17:13] <techfreak> wadkar what are yuo getting for route -n
[17:13] <Cogito446> When I change to XFCE with open source video drivers on 10.04  everything work except the HDMI. Need advice.
[17:13] <techfreak> wadkar route add default gw <ipaddress> interface
[17:14] <dr_willis> Cogito446:  you mean the hdmi sound output? or video output?
[17:15] <debian_noob> is there any better alternative to photorec?
[17:15] <vip_> hello.how to unlock adobe flash local storage???
[17:15] <debian_noob> like something which can recreate the original directory structure?
[17:15] <Cogito446> When I connect the hdmi cable to the tv I have no video or sound.
[17:15] <dr_willis> Cogito446:  whats your video chipset?
[17:16] <craigbass1976> Every time I search for it, the stupid search engine (tried a couple) thinks I'm looking for radical ubuntu lucid...
[17:16] <Igmu> dr_willis I will adduser. I am using dual boot on this box so I have to restart this one. Can you list log file locations that could help target this?
[17:16] <Cogito446> E5
[17:16] <techfreak> Cogito446 dont tell that you have nvidia
[17:16] <Cogito446> Ati
[17:17] <dr_willis> Igmu:  theres always the x logs in /var/log/ or the users home. if the Login screen is working.. but the user desktop is not. it points to it being a conflict of some type in the users config files in their home. IF a new user works.. that definatly points to it being a user config issue.  In which case you would cleanout/reset/remove the various config files in the problem users home.
[17:17] <craigbass1976> Supposedly radicale is in the repos...
[17:17]  * tnk1 is back.
[17:17] <dr_willis> Cogito446:  but if you use the fglrx drivers the external display works?
[17:17] <debian_noob> or is there any way to specify date of deletion?
[17:18] <rage> Is there a way of disabling window manager keybindings for specific windows? e.g. Pressing alt tab in window A works but in window B it does nothing
[17:18] <oCean> tnk1: please disable the away/back script
[17:18] <nixmaniack> I need help in running "links -g" in console. It's giving me errors.
[17:18] <Igmu> dr_willis thx
[17:18] <nixmaniack> *links2 -g
[17:19] <ajasmin> I find Banshee a bit confusing. It works when I search for something but if I don't know how to play all the files in a directory. I have this directory under my Music folder containing CD tracks prefixed by the track number can't I just play these in order somehow?
[17:20] <Cogito446> dr_willis: If I use the proprietary drives It will work but the youtube video would freeze or choppy.
[17:20] <wadkar> techfreak: thanks got it
[17:20] <wadkar> techfreak: can you tell me how to add an alias to eth0 ?
[17:20] <tyler_d> ajasmin: its all based on id3 tagging... you would have to search for a comonality, modify the id3 tags to all be the same "albumn" or alternately create a playlist for the items
[17:21] <ajasmin> tyler_d, I see. Guess mplayer ~/Music/dir/*.flac will do for now.
[17:21] <dr_willis> Cogito446:  youtube has a html5 playback option that dosent use flash. but i rarely go to youtube these days.
[17:21] <tyler_d> ajasmin: from mplayer you should be able to save the playlist then import into banshee
[17:22] <ajasmin> tyler_d, Can't I just create a play list from nautilus or something?
[17:22] <tyler_d> I'm unsure of the ability from nautilus
[17:22] <dr_willis> drag/drop the files onto the playlist area perhaps.
[17:22] <techfreak> wadkar sudo ifconfig eth0:0 <sencond IP> up
[17:22] <Cogito446> dr.willis: So the problem looks like is flash?
[17:23] <Toph2> dr_willis,,, firefox and chrome seem to drag my system to a crawl and less (11.10)  I have disabled Flash and can't watch a lot of the videos. Is there an alternative to Flash or isn't Flash my problem?
[17:23] <wadkar> techfreak: thanks, do I need to worry about routing tables ?
[17:23] <dr_willis> Cogito446:  flash is always a problem.
[17:23] <theadmin> ajasmin: You can create a text file with a list of files to play (quoted, space-or-newline separated) and then use: mplayer $(cat myplaylist.txt)
[17:23] <theadmin> Toph2: Well we have gnash
[17:23] <Cogito446> tk
[17:23] <tyler_d> Toph2: flash is a huge issue on all systems; currently running flash on my 64 bit laptop causes the heat to spike up to > 80
[17:23]  * dr_willis looks forward to the day flash dies.
[17:23] <techfreak> wadkar: it should take automatically
[17:24] <wadkar> techfreak: supercool, thanks !
[17:24] <Toph2> theadmin,,, does gnash successfully replace Flash?
[17:24] <theadmin> dr_willis: With HTML5 (and tons of HTML5 apps on CWS) it's not that far into the future
[17:24] <theadmin> Toph2: Most of the time yes
[17:24] <Toph2> theadmin,,, thanks, i'll try it
[17:24] <techfreak> wadkar you are welcome
[17:24] <warfaren> the performance i get with gnash is nowhere near flash :(
[17:24] <dr_willis> flash is a good example of the problems with a 'closed source solution'
[17:24] <debian_noob> theadmin, no it doesnt
[17:24] <Cogito446> dr_willis: agree.
[17:24] <warfaren> but i wish i could use it more...
[17:24] <debian_noob> youtube only
[17:25] <ajasmin> dr_willis, drag/drop doesn't seem to work. But thanks
[17:25] <tyler_d> I have read about mplayer integration to get youtube working... but have not played with it at all
[17:25] <mcbaine1> its my birthday today... Yipppppeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:25] <dr_willis> I wonder what % of youtube videos have html5 alternatives now a days.
[17:25] <theadmin> mcbaine1: That's offtopic here, please visit #ubuntu-offtopic or #defocus
[17:25] <dr_willis> tyler_d:  boxee also has youtube plugins :) for surfing the tube.
[17:26] <dr_willis> I tend to use the various Youtube Downloader tools/plugins to grab any videos i want to watch. and convert them as i want to a nicer format.
[17:27] <tyler_d> dr_willis: I just copy the fd after it streams :)
[17:27] <ajasmin> theadmin, Playing all the file in a directory with mplayer is easy enough. I was trying to figure out banshee though.
[17:27]  * theadmin has no problems with neither flash nor yt's HTML5 player, which I beleive covers ALL the videos now, dr_willis
[17:27] <dr_willis> tyler_d:  90% of the time - i use tubemate on my cellphone. :) rarely  go to youtube on the pc.
[17:28] <tyler_d> dr_willis: curiousity got the better of me so I figured out how to copy them from youtube :)
[17:28] <Cogito446> dr.willis: I Use downloadhelper with seamonkey and is fantastic
[17:28]  * theadmin uses savefrom.net with Chrom{e,ium}
[17:28] <tyler_d> I wanted to know the raw how-to get it
[17:32] <bs> when i log in to my ubuntu i got two option ubuntu and ubuntu 2d when i choose ubuntu i got nothing on the screen when i login
[17:33] <tyler_d> bs: so your 3d on your video card is not working
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> theadmin  tnx for advising savefrom.net
[17:36] <dyd> i had the bad idea to update ubuntu to 11.10
[17:36] <theadmin> MonkeyDust: Uhm, no problem
[17:36] <dyd> now not even left click is working on the main menu
[17:36] <dyd> seems like left-right are inverted
[17:37] <theadmin> dyd: Odd. Try using the winkey. Also, afaik, just hovering over the top-left corner of the screen brings menu up
[17:37] <a1> hello
[17:37] <dyd> theadmin, i'm using gnome no effects
[17:37] <theadmin> dyd: Oh, gnome-shell or gnome-panel?
[17:38] <dyd> theadmin, how can i detect that?
[17:38] <theadmin> dyd: Um, okay, do you have a bar with "Applications" and "Places" on top, or do you have a button saying "Activities" instead?
[17:38] <dyd> theadmin, btw the problem persist only on the Applications menù
[17:38] <theadmin> Ah I see, so panel
[17:38] <dyd> theadmin, i have Applications and Places
[17:39] <theadmin> dyd: ok, hm, sounds weird... I dunno. Sounds like a bug. Report it: ubuntu-bug gnome-panel
[17:39] <dyd> theadmin, sometimes it works, sometimes if you click it will show and immediatly disappear the sub menus
[17:39] <magicJ> I have a text only printer configured and working - I can : lp someFile to it and it prints.  If in firefox I hit print I get the print screen etc and seem to send the jb and there is no output - any ideas?
[17:39] <dyd> theadmin, frustrating but i can go over
[17:40] <theadmin> magicJ: Well, what Firefox prints is essentially an image no matter what -- because it's a webpage, can't be text-only...
[17:41] <bs> when i log in to ubuntu 11.10 i get two option ubuntu and ubuntu 2d when i choose ubuntu and login i get nothing just an empty screen
[17:41] <magicJ> theadmin - then surely it should give me an error or something rather than just ignore it, no?
[17:41] <tati> hola?
[17:41] <magicJ> bs: do you have enough memory to run the non-2d ersion
[17:41] <hydester> i'm using the firefox ppa for ubuntu and the language get flipped to british for the textarea spellchecker.  any idea how to fix that?  using https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa
[17:41] <theadmin> magicJ: I dunno. Firefox is weird. Haven't used it for quite a while now so idk
[17:42] <Janusman> Help! If I try to ls a folder (which just happens to be my huge Thunderbird profile dir) I get the error: "ls: reading directory n5tk3z31.default/: Input/output error" And, of course, Thunderbird won't start =(
[17:42] <bs> magicJ, yes but i think i mess some thing with compiz and every thing went bad since then how to resore?
[17:43] <Janusman> that folder is on an NTFS filesystem. Doing a sudo fsck /dev/sda1 returns "fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found"
[17:44] <theadmin> Janusman: You need to install ntfs-3g and ntfsprogs, also... You should NOT store Linux directories on FAT/NTFS
[17:44] <magicJ> bs: just accept that 11.10 is at best a work in progress - either re-install or accept the prolem - I have no idea why Canonical did this - but they did - I am generally sticking with 10.4 since it is LTS - there are so many weird things like that in 11.10
[17:44] <Janusman> theadmin: thanks, I'll try that. BTW this is a Thunderbird profile I share between my dual boot Win and Ubuntu
[17:44] <theadmin> Janusman: I wouldn't do that, but okay...
[17:45] <theadmin> Janusman: I think the config formats in TB for Linux and Windows differ
[17:45] <debian_noob> Janusman, apt-get install ntfsprogs
[17:45] <Janusman> theadmin: =)
[17:45] <Janusman> theadmin: hrm, both of those are already installed. ntfsprogs and ntfs-3g
[17:45] <theadmin> Janusman: Odd then... weird
[17:45] <Janusman> theadmin: yeah :(
[17:46] <bs> magicJ, come on reinstall god,isnt there any way to restore it back,i also have windows 7 on another disk if i do reinstall i might not be able to load any thing
[17:46] <Janusman> theadmin: gladly I've not used TB on Windows since about a year ago. thanks for the heads up
[17:46] <debian_noob> Janusman, yeah
[17:46] <dagerik> I forgot to backup a particular .txt file before I deleted the partition and reinstalled ubuntu. There is a good chance the file has not been overwritten. Do there exist some tool which can search through the disk for ascii strings?
[17:46] <debian_noob> fsck.ntfs doesnt exist
[17:46] <debian_noob> try ntfsfix
[17:46] <magicJ> bs: as I say  - my experience with 11.10 is that this type of thing is typical
[17:46] <bookaballaboddda> hi
[17:47] <bookaballaboddda> i would just like to say hi
[17:47] <Janusman> debian_noob: will do
[17:47] <magicJ> bs: if you knew what you messed up u could undo it - but u don't
[17:47] <bs> magicJ, i thought it's stable version
[17:47] <debian_noob> but it most probably wont solve your problem
[17:47] <debian_noob> according to it's manpage
[17:47] <bookaballaboddda> and goodebye
[17:47] <dr_willis> bs:  tried logging in as a new user? see if they cen get to a desktop? try startx from the console also. look for eerror messages
[17:47] <bs> magicJ, i know what i missed up but the problem nothing load to restore it back..
[17:47] <magicJ> bs: they claim stable but it is not complete is it - look what happened 2 u
[17:48] <Duality> got a laptop with 256K ram -.-
[17:48] <bs> dr_willis, ok let me try
[17:48] <dr_willis> some compiz and unity settings an fight. :)
[17:48] <dr_willis> can fight.
[17:48] <magicJ> bs: y can't u just reverse what you did - how did u mess it up
[17:48] <Duality> not gonna be able to run ubuntu or what?
[17:48] <debian_noob> Duality, you mean 256M?
[17:48] <dr_willis> Duality:  id suggest Lubuntu
[17:48] <theadmin> Duality: 256 KILOBYTES?
[17:48] <theadmin> Duality: That doesn't even make sense
[17:48] <dyd> in ubuntu how can i manage users and groups? where is the system>administration>usersandgroups>manage groups>vboxusers
[17:49] <cowslammer> help! the networing icon has disappeared off the top panel.  how do i get it back?
[17:49] <Duality> 256 KB
[17:49] <Janusman> debian_noob: "completed successfully", but still get the error on ls
[17:49] <Duality> lool
[17:49] <Duality> :P
[17:49] <Duality> it's a verry
[17:49] <Duality> verry
[17:49] <Duality> old laptop
[17:49] <FloodBot1> Duality: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:49] <debian_noob> dyd the adduser command can be useful
[17:49] <magicJ> bs: I have a few hndred sites running Ubuntu - if they do not improve thinbgs I will be migrating to another distro once 10.4 drops out of support
[17:49] <nyilas_> Hello! I have a Xubuntu 11.10 and if i click on hibernation, my system hibernates, but then, if i hit the power button, my system is restaring. The sytem is a Dell Inspiron 5110. Please help me!
[17:49] <theadmin> Duality: I don't think you can run any modern OS with that much RAM... Try FreeDOS I guess...
[17:49] <magicJ> bs: how did u mess it up
[17:50] <cowslammer> help! the networing icon has disappeared off the top panel.  how do i get it back?
[17:50] <debian_noob> Janusman, try rebooting into windows and running checkdisk
[17:50] <theadmin> cowslammer: Alt+F2, nm-applet
[17:50] <Ray24> I just installed ubuntu 10.10 and I couldn't get a wireless connection, how do I? What update do I do?
[17:50] <Janusman> debian_noob: hm, ok, I'll try that. brb
[17:50] <Janusman> thanks
[17:51] <pitlimit> My ubuntu has become unresponsive after a system crash. Can anyone tell me how I might go about fixing it? How might I find the cause?
[17:51] <debian_noob> bs, messed up compiz?
[17:51] <bebo> join ##C
[17:51] <pitlimit> Is there any way for me to use the install cd to fix ubuntu?
[17:52] <guest-hId56p> dr_willis, well it work fine from the guest acc
[17:52] <guest-hId56p> dr_willis, how to restore my acc seetings?
[17:52] <nyilas_> Hello! I have a Xubuntu 11.10 and if i click on hibernation, my system hibernates, but then, if i hit the power button, my system is restaring. The sytem is a Dell Inspiron 5110. Please help me!
[17:52] <cowslammer> theadmin - that does nothinng obvious
[17:53] <theadmin> cowslammer: mmmk, open a terminal and type "nm-applet &disown", what do you get?
[17:54] <Duality> http://www.spanbroek.net/mark/laptop/
[17:54] <Duality> is the laptop i have
[17:54] <Duality> can be upgraded to 160MB of RAM
[17:54] <Duality> though ...
[17:54] <cowslammer> theadmin - when i run nm-applet from the terminal, i get an error "this was not a disconnect"
[17:54] <guest-hId56p> dr_willis, i guess i know what is the problem but can some one tell me how to fix
[17:55] <dyd> can i rollback to 10.04 ?
[17:55] <dyd> i'm going crazy with 11.10
[17:55] <iceroot> dyd: only by reinstall
[17:55] <dyd> iceroot: damn :)
[17:55] <Oer> !specs | Duality
[17:56] <cowslammer> theadmin - "old state indicates this was not a disconnect"
[17:56] <guest-hId56p> any one can help me about compiz
[17:56] <iceroot> !anyone | guest-hId56p
[17:56] <Trololololol> !flavor
[17:56] <Trololololol> !mythbuntu
[17:56] <Duality> :)
[17:56] <almoxarife> nyilas_: I don't want to sound defeatist but you may never see a cure for that, the same will happen with suspend I a assume, I own a dell lappy same as yours, I have tried every trick out there, no joy, the killer is that windows does work (sleep/suspend).
[17:56] <Oer> Duality, Lubuntu will do > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#System_requirements
[17:56] <oCean> Trololololol: please use the bot in pm:  /msg ubottu !bot
[17:57] <guest-hId56p> i disable ubuntu unity plugin in my account how can i restore it
[17:57] <cowslammer> theadmin - "old state indicates this was not a disconnect"
[17:58] <nyilas_> almoxarife: :( Maybe i should change distro
[17:59] <almoxarife> nyilas_: there are some other suspend apps out there besides the ones that come with gnome, you might give them a try, I did
[17:59] <liveuser_101> ohi guys
[17:59] <liveuser_101> im back
[18:00] <liveuser_101> how do i log off ubuntu
[18:00] <liveuser_101> i willlllllllll nooooooooooootttttttttttttttttt  burrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
[18:00] <iceroot> liveuser_101: gui or cli?
[18:00] <liveuser_101> cli
[18:00] <iceroot> liveuser_101: exit
[18:00] <liveuser_101> logoff?
[18:00] <liveuser_101> oh i see
[18:00] <liveuser_101> thank you
[18:00] <debian_noob> liveuser_101, logout
[18:00] <liveuser_101> ok
[18:01] <dyd> what was the command to change the file permissions?
[18:01] <debian_noob> chmod
[18:01] <guest-hId56p> how to open compizconfig from treminal
[18:02] <PIPPO> CIAO
[18:02] <PIPPO> !LIST
[18:02] <Janusman> debian_noob: windows seems to have detected and fixed the problem. Making a backup before doing anything else =)
[18:02] <Janusman> So.. thank you windows (for once!) =)
[18:02] <debian_noob> Janusman, only parents can take care of their spoiled children ;)
[18:03] <Janusman> guest-hId56p: ccsm?
[18:03] <guest-hId56p> Janusman, what do you mean
[18:03] <guest-hId56p> Janusman, yes ccsm
[18:03] <cowslammer> theadmin does that make any sense?
[18:04] <dgnorton__> Is there a way to edit the launchers in 11.10?  I'd like to add command line arguments to one.
[18:04] <Oer> guest-hId56p, why not open ccsm from the menu ?
[18:04] <cowslammer> help! the networing icon has disappeared off the top panel.  how do i get it back?
[18:04] <debian_noob> Oer, maybe he's encountering errors he'd like to see
[18:04] <debian_noob> cowslammer, GNOME?
[18:05] <cowslammer> debian_noob, yes
[18:05] <CarlFK> how do I get the syslog spew on boot?  I removed "quiet splash" but I still just get a purple screen, not the syslog spew I like
[18:05] <benny1> ciao
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> list?
[18:05] <debian_noob> right click the panel and add applets or something like that
[18:05] <guest-hId56p> Oer, because i disable ubuntu unity plugin from account and i need to reenable it because i can't see menu or nothing sincei disable it
[18:05] <debian_noob> cowslammer, happened to me too
[18:06] <Oer> guest-hId56p, ctrl + alt + T > ccsm <enter>
[18:06] <debian_noob> guest-hId56p, try Alt-F2 compiz --replace
[18:06] <theadmin> MonkeyDust: lol
[18:07] <MonkeyDust>  :)
[18:07]  * tnk1 is away: Gone away for now
[18:08] <cowslammer> debian_noob, what did u do about it?
[18:08] <pitlimit> my system has become unresponsive (slow to respond) after a system crash. Can anyone advise me on how I might fix the problem? Perhaps a hard disk check?
[18:08] <Zeraphing> Is anyone else out there having issues running dual monitors with 11.10?
[18:09] <debian_noob> cowslammer, added it back
[18:09] <cowslammer> debian_noob, how?
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> pitlimit  try booting in Recovery mode and choose Repair, to start
[18:09] <dan__> hey
[18:09] <pitlimit> thanks MonkeyDust
[18:09] <debian_noob> isnt there anything like add to panel?
[18:10] <cowslammer> debian_noob, yes but that's not one of the options
[18:10] <debian_noob> cowslammer, I'm sorry then..
[18:10] <MonkeyDust> debian_noob  http://www.wmlcloud.com/linux/completely-tweak-unity-settings-in-ubuntu-11-04-11-10-12-04-with-myunity/
[18:11] <debian_noob> been a long time since i used GNOME
[18:11] <debian_noob> MonkeyDust, ?
[18:11] <cowslammer> help! the networing icon has disappeared off the top panel.  how do i get it back?
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> debian_noob  addressed wrong person, apologies
[18:12] <debian_noob> cowslammer, solution: apt-get purge gnome & apt-geet install lxde ;)
[18:12] <debian_noob> just kidding
[18:13] <cowslammer> debian_noob, lxde?  what's that?
[18:13] <CrazyGir> hello! where might i find the code/repo for ubuntu-vm-builder?
[18:14] <debian_noob> cowslammer, http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDIQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Flxde.org%2F&ei=2_MBT_2aGs3MrQeF0-TNDw&usg=AFQjCNGRw8lfMByTCkVg9KikgtprfKb1Cg&sig2=Y4wF1DdSIupshLh-vz1Eog
[18:14] <cowslammer> debian_noob, kidding about what?
[18:14] <debian_noob> cowslammer, i was kidding about removing gnome and using lxde instead
[18:14] <shomon> could anyone help me to get skype's microphone working? It is just the microphone that doesn't work. how can I diagnose this problem?
[18:14] <debian_noob> its my personal preference
[18:15] <debian_noob> much more lighter than gnome
[18:15] <cowslammer> debian_noob, this isn't the forum for jokes
[18:15] <phil> CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO USE NVCLOCK ON JULINUX 8.0 PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!
[18:15] <MonkeyDust> phil  caps
[18:15] <alsoeric> shomon, have you checked the audio settings?
[18:15] <phil> im in a rush my gpu will crash shortly
[18:15] <shomon> in alsamixer, yes I turned everythign up
[18:15] <alsoeric> not pulse audio?
[18:16] <shomon> I don't think I have it
[18:16] <shomon> this is ubuntu 10.10
[18:16] <alsoeric> what are you using?
[18:16] <alsoeric> ah
[18:16] <cowslammer> help! the networing icon has disappeared off the top panel.  how do i get it back?
[18:16] <phil> hhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeellllllllppppppppppp
[18:16] <shomon> no, no pulseaudio installed. .I hear it's a bit buggy
[18:16] <shomon> !ask |phil
[18:16] <alsoeric> alasa has major problems with switching devices
[18:16] <shomon> ah sorry I didn't see your previous comment phil
[18:17] <DJones> phil: You need to find the channel/support details for Julinux, this channel is for support with the official Ubuntu releases
[18:17] <phil> ok
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> phil  you're in the wring channel
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> o
[18:18] <cowslammer> help! the networing icon has disappeared off the top panel.  how do i get it back?
[18:18] <alsoeric> I'm trying to improve system responsiveness on a 4 gb laptop.  baseline problem is I run out of memory, disk activity climbs (swapping),, when the disk runs, everything pauses.
[18:18] <debian_noob> cowslammer, for better help try #gnome
[18:19] <alsoeric> I'm trying paging to a flash stick and it works great until... the %wait climbs past 50%, load average climbs past 10 and the stops respoinding
[18:20] <alsoeric> so ideas?
[18:22] <cowslammer> help! the networing icon has disappeared off the top panel.  how do i get it back?
[18:22] <MonkeyDust> !repeat| cowslammer
[18:22] <cowslammer> debian_noob, no one is reading the #gnome channel
[18:23] <debian_noob> cowslammer, be patient
[18:23] <dagerik> I reinstalled ubuntu. What are the chances of recovering a particular .txt file which I had in /home ?
[18:23] <debian_noob> dagerik, photorec
[18:23] <debian_noob> or magicrescue
[18:24] <debian_noob> though the chances are slim
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> dagerik  or scalpel
[18:24] <c_smith> cowslammer, I've had a similar situation with GTKpod, and that's another barely active channel, #gtkpod, I just waited and was patient and it was worth it, finally got the help I needed.
[18:24] <JDiogoR> can someone help me with problems with dropbox and ubuntu?
[18:24] <c_smith> cowslammer,  so, as was said, just be patient.
[18:24] <vsync_> cowslammer l2googled
[18:25] <dagerik> MonkeyDust: I tried scalpal, but I could not find any option in the config to recover ascii files.
[18:25] <vsync_> -d
[18:25] <Duality> my instalation is in text mode thingy and it won't go further the --> squashfs version 3.3 (2007/10/31) phillip lougher
[18:25] <MonkeyDust> dagerik  i think you have to add .txt extension in the scalpel config file
[18:25] <debian_noob> dagerik, try photorec, you can specify file times
[18:25] <debian_noob> *types
[18:25] <DrDamnit> I need a bootable, live Ubuntu CD that has the ability for a remote user to boot up, click an icon, and reverse ssh to us so we can do support. Does anyone know of one that already exists?
[18:26] <MonkeyDust> DrDamnit  i've done ssh connections from a live cd
[18:26] <DrDamnit> Monkeydust: problem is that I need root access to fix a broken system.
[18:27] <c_smith> DrDamnit, I use sudo from a liveCD (not through SSH, have no way to test it) all the time.
[18:27] <DrDamnit> The user can get the reverse ssh connection up, but it is asking me for a user / pass. I don't want to walk the user through the process of creating a user and giving it sudo permissions.
[18:27] <c_smith> DrDamnit, have you tried the username as "ubuntu" and no password?
[18:28] <DrDamnit> c_smith: just did. Permission denied.
[18:28] <c_smith> DrDamnit, hmmm, the LiveCD acts differently for SSH, it seems,
[18:28] <debian_noob> DrDamnit, ask the user for the username and password?
[18:29] <DrDamnit> debian_noob: It's the live CD. There are no users. user is not competent enough to add a new user and give it sudo permissions.
[18:29] <MonkeyDust> DrDamnit  did the user forget the password?
[18:29] <debian_noob> DrDamnit, echo $USER
[18:30] <DrDamnit> debian_noob, ubuntu.
[18:30] <DrDamnit> it's the live CD.
[18:30] <debian_noob> passwpasswd
[18:30] <debian_noob> *passwd
[18:30] <Phoenix87> I want to remotely connect to my machine through ssh from outside my LAN. I have forwared port 22 to the correct ip in my LAN and i'm trying to access it through the router acquired IP from my ISP, but I get "connection refused"
[18:30] <debian_noob> to create a password
[18:30] <MonkeyDust> DrDamnit  do you or does the user use a live cd?
[18:31] <c_smith> DrDamnit, I believe that echo $user would work on a LiveCD.
[18:31] <Phoenix87> locally ssh works perfectly
[18:31] <Phoenix87> any ideas?
[18:32] <dgnorton__> is there a way to edit the command line parameters of a launcher in Unity?
[18:32] <c_smith> dgnorton__, only if you know how to edit GNOME menu entries.
[18:33] <c_smith> and now I'm out.
[18:33] <MonkeyDust> dgnorton__  http://askubuntu.com/questions/13758/how-can-i-edit-create-new-launcher-items-in-unity-by-hand
[18:33] <cowslammer> help! the networing icon has disappeared off the top panel.  how do i get it back?
[18:33] <rhizmoe> cowslammer: right click on panel, "Add to panel..."
[18:34] <rhizmoe> or in the notification area, if that's where yours was
[18:34] <debian_noob> cowslammer, what did you do after which it disappeared?
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> cowslammer  try alt-f2 nm-applet
[18:35] <cowslammer> MonkeyDust, tried that already
[18:36] <DrDamnit> Setting the password worked.  Thanks guys!
[18:37] <DrDamnit> still want to know if there is a live CD that makes it easier....
[18:37] <DrDamnit> :-)
[18:37] <debian_noob> DrDamnit, :)
 tried that already
[18:37] <wadkar> how do I get IPaddress of an interface ? e.g. ipAdd=$(ifconfig eth0 | grep -F 'inet addr:' | awk '{print $3}' | cut -d':' -f2)
[18:37] <nascentmind> Hi. Is there a way to setup a default pin in ubuntu using bluez?
[18:37] <MonkeyDust> wadkar  try dig
[18:37] <wadkar> I was wondering if there is another simple way than to grep/awk ifconfig output
[18:38] <wadkar> MonkeyDust: dig ? but dig is for (r)DNS, how will I get IpAddress from my interface name ?
[18:38]  * debian_noob is sick of SanDisk
[18:39] <wadkar> MonkeyDust: sorry, you are right, dig eth0 gave me the IpAddress
[18:39] <Phrogz> I'm trying to get a new server working with email (postfix/dovecot) and I've clearly flubbed it. How can I nuke the configs and get to a clean spot to start over?
[18:40] <Phrogz> Using apt-get remove dovecot postfix etc. did not remove old .conf files e.g. /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf
[18:40] <yeats> Phrogz: apt-get purge
[18:40] <Phrogz> So I tried nuking that directory and re-installing the package, but now I don't even have default .conf
[18:40] <debian_noob> Phrogz, apt-get purge
[18:40] <Phrogz> yeats Thanks, will do that and see how I fare.
[18:42] <thiner> how do u get programs to quite in ubuntu gnome
[18:42] <wadkar> MonkeyDust: okay, too fast, I looked at AUTHORITY section where my 1st DNS is my eth0, coincidence . And I thought dig gives me IpAddress
[18:43] <wadkar> need simple command/config file to get IpAddress given an interface name
[18:43] <wadkar> s/given/for a given/
[18:44] <thiner> when i quite spotify it wont shut down it keeps playing but i closed
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> wadkar  try ip addr show eth0
[18:44] <tatie> hello, i installed virtual midi keyboard however nothing happens when i press the keys. midi sound doesn't play. am i missing somehting here?
[18:46] <MonkeyDust> tatie  better ask in #ubuntustudio
[18:47] <cowslammer> help! the networing icon has disappeared off the top panel.  how do i get it back? (I've already tried running nm-applet)
[18:48] <thiner> cant get spotify to quite it just keeps playing
[18:48] <wadkar> MonkeyDust: well, still get a 4 line output and have to do " ip addr show tun0 | grep -F 'inet ' | awk '{print $2}' | cut -d'/' -f1 "
[18:48] <wadkar> nothing different that ifconfig if you ask me
[18:49] <Monotoko2> hey guys... I tried to add my user to a group and stupidly deleted the admin account from all the other groups (damn -G switch) so I can't "sudo" or anything... I assume I can boot into recov and fix it, but which groups should my main admin account be in by default?
[18:49] <MonkeyDust> wadkar  maybe you could write a script, give it a name and make it a ppa, see if someone picks it up
[18:49] <cowslammer> help! the networing icon has disappeared off the top panel.  how do i get it back? (I've already tried running nm-applet)
[18:52] <wadkar> MonkeyDust: hehe, thanks, one can write ioctl calling C code or even a simple python code for that, no need for #bash scripting :)
[18:52] <Monotoko2> ohh, forgot to mention I'm on 10.04
[18:52] <dgnorton__> MonkeyDust, thank you.  I will give that a try.  Wonder why such a common task is obscured that way.
[18:53] <wadkar> I wanted it as I was in middle of a #bash script , thought there might be some command-foo for that
[18:53] <sydney> ik ben het robert
[18:53] <MonkeyDust> wadkar  "asp - find an host IP address by its name"
[18:53] <oCean> sydney: english please, use #ubuntu-nl for dutch
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> zoals de anderen :p
[18:54] <UsaFilet> no problem
[18:56] <Monotoko2> no-one can just give me a list of default groups on a 10.04 install? :(
[18:56] <bullgard6> [Ubuntu 11.10 GNOME Shell 3.2.1]  '~$ ping 192.168.178.33; 9 packets transmitted, 9 received, 0% packet loss, time 8001ms.' Firefox 8.0: 'smb://192.168.178.33; Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocol (smb) isn't associated with any program.' What DEB program package do I need to install yet?
[18:56] <Monotoko2> I've tried Google... it isn#t helping
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> Monotoko2  what kind of groups?
[18:56] <Scala-Anfaenger> join #ubuntu-de
[18:56] <Monotoko2> MonkeyDust: the default groups for the admin account.... I stupidly kicked myself out of them all by using the -G switch on usermod
[18:56] <aquarat> I can give you the groups on 11.04
[18:57] <Monotoko2> and now I can't do anything
[18:57] <aquarat> should be fairly similar
[18:57] <Monotoko2> aye that'll do
[18:57] <bullgard6> Scala-Anfaenger: Du hast den Schrägstrich am Anfang vergessen!
[18:57] <MonkeyDust> :)
[18:57] <Scala-Anfaenger> danke / Thanks
[18:57] <Monotoko2> thanks aquarat :)
[18:57] <aquarat> k
[18:58] <aquarat> how do I print out the groups ? :P
[18:58]  * aquarat looks in /etc
[18:58] <ron> any repository that holds openjdk 7u2 for ubuntu?
[18:58] <aquarat> ah
[18:58] <aquarat> cat /etc/group
[18:58] <wadkar> no MonkeyDust , ASP is for hostnames, not for devices/interfaces
[18:58] <Monotoko2> ahh! Excellent... does that show you which groups your user is a member of?
[18:59] <aquarat> yes it does
[19:01] <anathema_> hi do you know how to fix microphone sound distortion prob?
[19:02] <LucidGuy> If you were going to setup a simple webserver and plan on doing your editing with a simple editor like bluefish...   How would you connect/edit the web file? Eg. ftp, nfsmount, smb.. etc.
[19:03] <dgnorton_> MonkeyDust, I see the default launchers in gconf but not the ones I've added.
[19:08] <ubuntuaddicted1> firewire knowledge anyone? video input, getting this error in DMESG probably new bus reset occurred
[19:08] <Scala-Anfaenger> hi Guys. After installing the compiz settings Manager i have high cpu load on xorg
[19:09] <ubuntuaddicted1> ohci1394: fw-host0: SelfID received, but NodeID invalid (probably new bus reset occurred): 0800FFC0
[19:09] <Scala-Anfaenger> can any help me ?
[19:09] <surfdue> morning, happy holidays!
[19:09] <surfdue> for some reason the /etc/motd file keeps getting reset.
[19:09] <surfdue> any way around this?
[19:09] <anathema_> hi do you know how to fix microphone sound distortion prob?
[19:10] <aquarat> landscape sometimes writes changes to motd? I think
[19:10] <maurizio_> Hi, could someone help me? When firefox freeze for several second any time I open a web page using java applet, like facebook
[19:10] <surfdue> aquarat: whats landscape?
[19:11] <rhizmoe> maurizio_: i don't get any java applet when i visit fb
[19:11] <mile123> anathema_: reduce amplification, switch off the mic boost?
[19:11] <aquarat> landscape is ubuntu's system monitoring ... system
[19:11] <aquarat> client
[19:11] <anathema_> mile123, how?
[19:11] <aquarat> thing
[19:11] <rhizmoe> Scala-Anfaenger: nvidia?
[19:11] <anathema_> mile123, I dont find any setting in pavucontrol
[19:11] <aquarat> it updates the motd with system info
[19:11] <bullgard6> [Ubuntu 11.10 GNOME Shell 3.2.1]  '~$ ping 192.168.178.33; 9 packets transmitted, 9 received, 0% packet loss, time 8001ms.' Firefox 8.0: 'smb://192.168.178.33; Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocol (smb) isn't associated with any program.' What DEB program package do I need to install yet?
[19:11] <oCean> !landscape| surfdue
[19:12] <osmosis> I am trying to diff two text files. Even though only a few lines are different, diff is outputting the entire files..making it mostly useless. Any workarounds for this? Different comparison method?
[19:12] <surfdue> osmosis: how can I make it not update the motd?
[19:12] <rhizmoe> bullgard6: samba, which i would think is installed by default but could be wrong.
[19:12] <mile123> anathema_: try alsamixer
[19:13] <edbian> What do I need to do so that my router picks up my machine's hostname when I get a DHCP address?
[19:13] <rhizmoe> osmosis: try man diff. --suppress-common-lines
[19:13] <anathema_> mile123, in alsamixer the microphone has normal volume :S
[19:13] <ki7rw> i still can't fully update my sources because of a key with a bad signature. i tried updating the key with sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 0x40976EAF437D05B5 but it doesn't fix the error message
[19:13] <rhizmoe> edbian: "routers" don't tend to care about hostnames
[19:13] <surfdue> im modifying /etc/motd as root and saving, then I logout and log back in with ssh
[19:13] <surfdue> and it gets changed back -.-
[19:13] <edbian> rhizmoe, it shows up in the dhcp clients list
[19:14] <rhizmoe> right...
[19:14] <ubuntuaddicted1> anyone know how to reload the firewire module? I am getting this error: ohci1394: fw-host0: SelfID received, but NodeID invalid (probably new bus reset occurred): 0800FFC0
[19:14] <edbian> rhizmoe, and I have enough machines that I'd like to see hostnames (otherwise is just says 'unknown' for like 4 or 5 devices)
[19:14] <surfdue> oh actually it appears it is not, its showing some alternative message
[19:14] <surfdue> where is ubuntu's default motd?
[19:14] <rhizmoe> dhcp lease = mac address + ip address + time
[19:14] <dirtycookie> hi i have the following error messages when running the command "apt-get upgrade"
[19:14] <dirtycookie> W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com oneiric Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 16126D3A3E5C1192 Ubuntu Extras Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[19:14] <dirtycookie> W: Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/Release
[19:14] <dirtycookie> W: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead
[19:14] <bullgard6> rhizmoe: Are you sure? I would have thought that I need only the package smb-client.
[19:14] <FloodBot1> dirtycookie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:15] <rhizmoe> bullgard6: not 100% no
[19:15] <edbian> rhizmoe, I don't care about the dhcp lease time, I care about the hostname.  Some of my ubuntu machines show the hostname in this dhcp clients table.  some do not, I want to know why
[19:15] <dirtycookie> sorry
[19:15] <mile123> anathema_: AFAIK there is a separate slider for mic boost, by the way you should select capture tab there
[19:15] <rhizmoe> edbian: hostname is a dns thing, not dhcp
[19:15] <edbian> rhizmoe, Well I'm not running any dns servers, how is my router getting hostnames?
[19:15] <surfdue> ya /etc/motd keeps getting reset
[19:15] <edbian> rhizmoe, (I know what DNS and DHCP is)
[19:15] <popolon> hi
[19:16] <popolon> is there a mean to change all package from a repository to another one in one action, to avoid dependencies breaking ?
[19:16] <rhizmoe> edbian: i have no idea, you haven't even said what you're running
[19:16] <anathema_> mile123, mic boost was 0
[19:16] <rhizmoe> so how could i?
[19:16] <LABcrab> Hello!  What is a good chess game for Ubuntu-to-Vista online gameplay?
[19:16] <surfdue> oh i needed motd.tail
[19:16] <edbian> rhizmoe, ubuntu 11.10 on both machines
[19:16] <surfdue> that was an easy answer, for future motd questers :)
[19:16] <popolon> LABcrab, gnuchess ?
[19:16] <dr_willis> popolon:  from what repo to what other repo?
[19:16] <popolon> I used a xorg-edgers ppa and I want a more stable ppa
[19:16] <edbian> rhizmoe, although one a fresh install and the other has been updated from version like 7.04
[19:16] <popolon> it seems than ppa-purge didn't worked
[19:16] <LABcrab> popolon: But the name suggests it doesn't work natively in Vista.
[19:17] <bullgard6> dirtycookie: Try the same command after a few hours. May be the repository is out of order at the moment.
[19:17] <bs> i want to add xp load to the grub
[19:17] <popolon> LABcrab, that's a gnu software that work on any platform as far I know
[19:17] <surfdue> is there some way to get ubuntu 10.04 to stop updating the motd file with those top lines? Welcome to Ubuntu! etc
[19:18] <spazzz> guys is there any other way to watch dvds other than xine.it won't work for me,and I can't figure out what program to use.Also I found the program that you have to pay for,not sure if thats the one I need to get
[19:18] <dirtycookie> bullgard6: how can i change the repository?
[19:18] <surfdue> i overwrote the motd and motd.tail but it just resets motd with the motd.tail at the bottom :/
[19:18] <LABcrab> popolon: Do you enjoy it?
[19:18] <mile123> anathema_: sorry, probably no more hints. Usually it works for me
[19:18] <bs> how can i use voice over msn and yahoo pidgin
[19:18] <anathema_> mile123 Do you have the capture and boost to zero?
[19:18] <popolon> LABcrab, I don't play a lot on chess, but I believe this is a good multiplatform reference, and use standardized chess network protocol
[19:18] <dagerik> I am using this: grep -a -i -r 'foo' ./ to look for a spesific file. But how can I limit the search to only file with a .txt extension?
[19:19] <LABcrab> Sweet.  :)
[19:19] <popolon> it even works on phone
[19:19] <LABcrab> Thanks popolon!  TouchPad here, Android is only 3.2 inches.  ttyl!  :)
[19:19] <mile123> No boost one step higher
[19:20] <Bauer> guys, how do I update httpd to the latest version? 2.3.15 which is not showing up on the apt-get update yet
[19:20] <dr_willis> Bauer:  normally updates are for security issues only. You may need to use a ppa, or source.
[19:21] <popolon> dr_willis, do you know a solution for downdate :).
[19:21] <mile123> anathema_: no not zeroes, but when I set it too high then input is overloaded and sound is distorted
[19:21] <dr_willis> popolon:  i dont even kniow the issue..
[19:22] <spazzz> does anyone know how to get dvds to work? I did alot of research and I still cant figure it out.I need help...
[19:22] <anathema_> mile123 I have them both low... and i still have distortion. In windows works ok :/ anyway many thanks
[19:22] <surfdue> ubuntu 10.04 LTS uses upstart right? not SysV
[19:22] <Bauer> dr_willis actually I mean 2.3.16 I think. well its probably a security update, as in 2011-12-09 new exploit was released, and the latest beta apache is from the 19th
[19:22] <dr_willis> spazzz:  theres like one package, that installs a script you run.. is about all i recall doing.
[19:22] <bullgard6> dirtycookie: You can for example use the official repository de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/. But a few minutes ago I suggested another procedure.
[19:23] <popolon> dr_willis, I want to downgrade version from one ppa to another one (or at least default ubuntu version)
[19:23] <popolon> for some mesa and drm packages
[19:23] <spazzz> was it xine?
[19:23] <dirtycookie> bullgard6: how do i change that manually?
[19:23] <popolon> synaptic doesn't allow to force version for several pacakges in one time
[19:23] <popolon> spacebug-, this is a video player
[19:23] <Bauer> dr_willis: the exploit kills apache  2.2.15, but the latest STABLE thats 2.2.21 is not showing up in apt-get update
[19:24] <dr_willis> Bauer:  means very little to me. If its a security update. then it whould be showing up when they are ready to reelase it. You could check the bug reports i guess.
[19:25] <dr_willis> popolon:  you may need to use the ppa-purge tool.
[19:25] <ki7rw> dirtycookie: i'm getting bad keyid messages also. can't get rid of the error messages. anyone know what's going on?
[19:26] <Langione> ciao
[19:26] <Langione> !list
[19:26] <bs> how can i use voice over msn and yahoo pidgin
[19:26] <popolon> dr_willis, ppa-purge removed the ppa, not the packages :(
[19:28] <spazzz> bs i knows mangler works really well not 100% sure if it works for yahoo
[19:28] <bullgard6> dirtycookie: In Synaptic  > Settings  >  Repositories > Software from Ubuntu > Download from: Server in Germany.
[19:28] <Plizzo> Hello, I recently put together a server and I'm now trying to assemble a working raid 5 array with three 2TB disks. I'm not running the system on the raid disks.
[19:28] <Plizzo> Though, I'm experiencing some issues with mdadm
[19:29] <Plizzo> Drives are being reported busy, and the array won't get properly assembled
[19:29] <Plizzo> Does anyone here have the knowledge to help me? :)
[19:29] <griasan> Can you dd from the devs to due null?
[19:30] <Plizzo> griasan: Was that message intended for me?
[19:30] <griasan> Yes
[19:30] <Plizzo> I'm not sure how to do this, could you explain further
[19:30] <Resistance> griasan:  if you want to address someone directly, prefix their name to your message, like i did to you
[19:30] <arcsky> when i do ifconfig eth0 ... up it sometimes lost it assigned IP address. does anyone know how that comes?
[19:30] <Resistance> griasan:  it'll highlight them
[19:30] <Resistance> Plizzo:  same statement ^
[19:31] <Plizzo> Resistance: Thanks, I forgot ;)
[19:31] <Resistance> Plizzo:  i think he means something like this: dd if=/dev/sdX of=/dev/null
[19:31] <Resistance> griasan:  is that what you meant for Plizzo?
[19:31] <griasan> Plizzo: Yep thats the ticket
[19:31] <Plizzo> Resistance: Exactly what does this do?
[19:31] <bullgard6> [Ubuntu 11.10 GNOME Shell 3.2.1]  '~$ ping 192.168.178.33; 9 packets transmitted, 9 received, 0% packet loss, time 8001ms.' Firefox 8.0: 'smb://192.168.178.33; Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocol (smb) isn't associated with any program.' What DEB program package do I need to install yet?
[19:31] <Resistance> Plizzo:  the statement i gave you is what griasan wants you to do.  you'll likely need sudo to run that.
[19:32] <Plizzo> Resistance: Alright, but should I remove the existing raid before running that, because it's incomplete
[19:32] <griasan> Plizzo: It will tell you which device is problematic, hopefully
[19:32] <spazzz> Can linux run dvds? I can't get it to work been trying since last night...
[19:32] <Plizzo> griasan: The busy disk changes every time I try to assemble the raid
[19:32] <fidel> bullgard6: why should ff handle smb requests?
[19:32] <Resistance> spazzz:  like video DVDs?
[19:32] <Resistance> !dvd | spazzz, if so
[19:32] <spazzz> resistance yea,i did alot of research
[19:32] <spazzz> just can't find anything
[19:33] <bullgard6> fidel:  It does so on another Ubuntu computer of mine.
[19:33] <Resistance> spazzz:  ubottu sent you information because i told it to.  use the links it gives you
[19:33] <Resistance> spazzz:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs  <-- that if you want to ignore ubottu
[19:33] <spazzz> hey 1 more ?
[19:33] <dr_willis> spazzz:  i play dvds all teh time. Install 1 pacakge and run a script it installs.. is all i ever recall doing.. vlc then plays them fine
[19:33] <fidel> bullgard6: thats afaik at least not default ;)
[19:34] <fidel> nor does it work here
[19:34] <spazzz> guys isresistance should i just pay for the software in ubuntu software system,do alot of ppl do it that way?
[19:35] <Plizzo> Resistance: I only get output of copied files, what does this actually do?
[19:35] <ubuntuaddicted1> can someone inform me how to reload a module IF it's some how being used? its the FATAL: Module ohci1394 is in use
[19:35] <Resistance> Plizzo:  it copies everything from /dev/<givenDevice> to /dev/null, in effect copying everything to nothingness
[19:35] <Resistance> Plizzo:  the intention is to figure out where in your array its exploding
[19:36] <SpiderFred> hi /dev/inputX isnt in binary?
[19:36] <Plizzo> Resistance: I'm running the command on the rest of the disks now, I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks!
[19:36] <bs> spazzz, only mangler works?
[19:37] <Bunie_> Hey guys #Wine is invite only, can i ask a wine question here?
[19:37] <popolon> cool, this time this seems to work
[19:37] <cindy_> how do i get java on my computer with ubuntu
[19:37] <spazzz> bs well I know mangler works for like ventrillo or mumble and stuff like that really well,I don't know quite what your doing but i just thought I would mention it to you..
[19:37] <popolon> perhaps because i deselected the repository the firts time, before the ppa-purge
[19:38] <Resistance> Plizzo:  :)
[19:38] <dr_willis> Bunie:  most likely its 'regiestered nicks' only and i think the channel is #winehq
[19:38] <spazzz> bs its a voice chat program,compatiable with alot of windows apps so if you have friends with windows it will most likely work with it...
[19:38] <dr_willis> !wine
[19:38] <DJones> Bunie: Try ##winehq
[19:38] <cindy_> does anyone know how to load java on ubuntu
[19:38] <Plizzo> Resistance: This will take about 4 hours per disk, isn't there a better way?
[19:39] <wondering> good morning and happy new year everyone.. I have a preferred program problem.  When I go online and open a ,pdf file, the only program I can view it with is gimp.. How, specifically, would I change it.. I dont know what the path is to the normal .pdf viewer is.. thanks
[19:39] <Resistance> Plizzo:  i came in late, are you trying to check the status of a RAID array?
[19:39] <dr_willis> !java |  cindy_
[19:40] <Plizzo> Resistance: I currently do not have an array, I an trying to create one, but it fails every time because one of the disks are busy, but the busy disk changes every time I try to create a new raid 5 array
[19:40] <cindy_> is it that hard
[19:40] <cowslammer> help! the networing icon has disappeared off the top panel.  how do i get it back? running nm-applet from a terminal window gets the icon back but it shows the net is disonnected
[19:40] <Resistance> Plizzo:  are you building the array from an already-isntalled OS?
[19:40] <dr_willis> cindy_:  cut/paste about 3  lines perhaps.. blame orcale for chagneing the licening agreements
[19:40] <Resistance> Plizzo:  i.e. not from a livecd
[19:41] <Plizzo> Resistance: Yes I'm running the OS of my SSD
[19:41] <Resistance> Plizzo:  um...
[19:41] <bullgard6> How can I configure Nautilus 3.2.1 so that it will show the »Location:« bar?
[19:41] <Plizzo> Resistance: I've got 3 empty 2TB disks in the system that I want to use as an raid 5 array
[19:41] <Resistance> Plizzo:  ah.  i take it you didnt see !raid ?
[19:42] <Resistance> !raid | Plizzo
[19:42] <Caifas> guys, I'm having this error while trying to start remaster my ubuntu with uck "Cannot mount /home/alexandre/tmp/remaster-iso/casper/filesystem.squashfs in /home/alexandre/tmp/remaster-root-mount, error=32" the only warning before this error I get is "mount: warning: /home/alexandre/tmp/remaster-iso-mount seems to be mounted read-only." but my /home partition is not mount on ro, actually I can't see any ro partition when I use "mount" command
[19:42] <wondering> in preferences it does not have a preferred .pdf viewer for using it for online .pdf's.   My viewer is set to gimp and I don't know the specific path to the normal .pdf viewer.. can someone help me.
[19:42] <Resistance> Plizzo:  you'll need to create the RAID via the alternate CD if i'm not mistaken
[19:42] <dr_willis> !pdf
[19:42]  * Resistance shall return
[19:43] <dr_willis> is evince the default pdf viewer? i rarely use it.
[19:43] <bullgard6> dr_willis: Yes.
[19:43] <Plizzo> Resistance: I've looked over the wiki but I were told that I could create an array with mdadm while running the system as I don't run the system of the array anyway
[19:43] <Plizzo> Resistance: Why would the mdadm --create command even exist otherwise?
[19:44] <Resistance> good point
[19:44] <Resistance> if the busy disk changes each time, i'm not sure what to tell you
[19:44]  * Resistance uses hardware RAID on his systems
[19:44] <wondering> dr_willis I dont know.. when I try to read .pdf online or a manual or whatever, it is opened by gimp.. the program asked me the usual, use gimp or other.  When I click to other I don;t know the specific path to the ( i know its there) normal viewer I used to use..  Can you help me?
[19:45] <dr_willis> wondering:  look for evince
[19:45] <bs> spazzz, i just want to use voice and webcam with my yahoo and msn contacts
[19:45] <rousing> Hi
[19:45] <wondering> user bin      user lib there are so many
[19:46] <rousing> Can anyone tell me how to install minimal kde (without kde applications etc) please ?
[19:46] <Resistance> wondering:  try /usr/bin/evince
[19:46] <Resistance> wondering:  that's the binary for evince
[19:46] <DJones> !minimal | rousing
[19:47] <wondering> k  thanks   i will
[19:47] <Resistance> rousing:  just KDE?
[19:47] <Bunie> he wants just KDE
[19:47] <Bunie> Not a miniminal CD
[19:47] <Resistance> rousing:  new install, or on top of a current install?
[19:47] <Resistance> rousing:  if just on top of a GNOME install, install kde-standard
[19:47] <rousing> DJones, i know the link already, thanks, i'm running server edition and would like to have a desktop on top of it
[19:48] <Resistance> rousing:  you'll need to install kde-standard and *all* dependencies
[19:48] <rousing> Resistance, 'm running server edition and would like to have a desktop on top of it, but i need only kde without lot of its applications
[19:48] <Resistance> rousing:  kde-standard
[19:48] <Resistance> i just told you how to install it
[19:48] <rousing> Resistance, thank you
[19:48] <Resistance> rousing:  apt-get install kde-standard
[19:48] <DJones> !purekde | rousing (Not sure if this link will work)
[19:48] <Resistance> DJones:  it wont, he's on CLI only
[19:48] <cowslammer> help! the networing icon has disappeared off the top panel.  how do i get it back? running nm-applet from a terminal window gets the icon back but it shows the net is disonnected
[19:48] <rousing> Resistance, i'm long on typing :) thank you again
[19:48] <bs> i want to add windows Xp load to ubuntu grup
[19:49] <Bunie> thats a pain i think, or i'd do it with win7 :3
[19:49] <popolon> thanks and bye
[19:49] <t3514> I want to install to a USB, but use a hard drive for data. What can I do to improve performance?
[19:49] <wondering> bs  its added when installing ubuntu I think..
[19:49] <Resistance> t3514:  not install to a USB.
[19:49] <Resistance> t3514:  installs that run off of a USB are notoriously unstable
[19:49] <Bunie> t3514: Yeah ur not gonna get performance from a USB
[19:49] <t3514> Reistance: that's not really usefull
[19:49] <wondering> bs  but I am sure there is a way to use terminal.. ask dr_willis  he is really good at ubuntu
[19:49] <Resistance> t3514:  your performance is limited to your USB Bus Speeds
[19:50] <dr_willis> bs:  if sudo udate-grub dosent see/add the xp  - you could add a custome entry for it in /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[19:50] <Resistance> there's no way to increase that performance
[19:50] <DJones> Resistance: Good spot, from memory, the original line was about installing kde/gnome/xfce etc & removing whatever was there before
[19:50] <Resistance> t3514:  you can't "increase performance" of a USB install because of the USB bus speeds.
[19:50] <Bunie> t3514: I installed to a MicroSD once. took like 10 minutes just to boot up lols
[19:50] <Resistance> DJones:  heh
[19:50] <t3514> I don't care about boot.
[19:50] <cowslammer> help! the networing icon has disappeared off the top panel.  how do i get it back? running nm-applet from a terminal window gets the icon back but it shows the net is disonnected
[19:50] <Resistance> t3514:  that includes runtime speeds
[19:50] <dr_willis> my main buntu install is running from a 32gb flash.
[19:50] <dr_willis> its slower then a hd install.but works and is portable.
[19:51] <Bunie> t3514: If ur going to use the hard drive for "data", why not just use GParted to create an install partition?
[19:51] <pnorman> Use a *fast* USB flash drive.
[19:51] <spazzz> resistance I got it to work ty so much...Trying forever it seemed like on that one..well since last night..
[19:51] <psusi> Resistance, Plizzo you might want to use the lvm howto on the ubuntu wiki instead of that one... that one is slightly out of date and big and scary ;)
[19:51] <Bunie> t3514: if ur worried about your boot sectors for windows or something, perhaps there would be some way to install ubuntu to ur hdd and grub onto the usb
[19:51] <t3514> No. I'm installing /boot and /root on the flash drive because these stupid hard drives keep failing and I don't want to install again on my parents PC
[19:52] <Plizzo> psusi: Could you hand me the link?
[19:52] <Bunie> t3514: If the hdd is failing, dont store things on it lols
[19:52] <t3514> fucking wow....
[19:52] <dr_willis> be sure to put grub on the mbr of the usb also
[19:52] <psusi> Plizzo, wiki.ubuntu.com/Lvm
[19:52] <Bunie> t3514: We're just trying to tell you, you wont get "performance" from a usb
[19:52] <cowslammer> t3514, you can run the install cd and direct it to install on the thumbdrive
[19:52] <Jordan_U> !language | t3514
[19:53] <t3514> Bunie: parents use the ubu box for dvr while im at college. massive writes and reads kill the hdd faster than i'd like it to die and they dont want to pay for more drives
[19:53] <pnorman> Bunie: A fast USB 3.0 flash drive is pretty fast
[19:54] <cowslammer> t3514, reading and writing doesn't kill the harddisk
[19:54] <pnorman> t3514: i'd expect massive reads and writes to kill a flash drive far faster than a hard drive.
[19:54] <t3514> pnorman: that's just wrong
[19:54] <t3514> a dead flash drive still allows reads. making it more useful
[19:54] <cowslammer> i'm running a flashdrive linux right now
[19:54] <bs> dr_willis, i have hard disk with two partions have windows xp and windows 7.so in ubuntu grub when i choose the windows 7 it give me tow choices for xp and 7 when i choose 7 it load but when i choose xp the pc restart
[19:54] <dr_willis> ive had dead flash drives be totally dead...
[19:54] <t3514> cowslammer: on green drives it does
[19:55] <psusi> t3514, umm... no?
[19:55] <cowslammer> t3514, what is a green drive
[19:55] <dr_willis> bs:  you may need to make a custome entry that properly boots xp then. ive no xp systems to give an example from.
[19:55] <t3514> cowslammer: wd green drives.
[19:55] <Bunie> t3514: I've never done an INSTALL to a usb, but i've used live disks with persistant cache, very easy to set up. have you looked into that?
[19:55] <dr_willis> 'green' drives last i looked are just running at slower speeds..
[19:55] <cowslammer> t3514, no idea what that is
[19:56] <Bunie> Western Digital
[19:56] <Bunie> probably made to be good for the environment
[19:56] <mile123> t3514: on green drives spin on count runs out above limit
[19:56] <bs> dr_willis, it's my first time useing ubuntu so will be hard to do it by my self without some one tell me what to do
[19:56] <Bunie> how is it good for the environment when you have to buy a new one every year
[19:56] <psusi> t3514, they don't wear out any more than any other drive, which is to say, like flash wears out after a few hundred thousand writes cycles.. the wd green drives just don't get a factory burn-in so suffer a high infant mortality rate
[19:56] <Bunie> lol
[19:56] <pnorman> t3514: I'd expect that only having /boot and /root on the flash would be as fast as possible, but you're trying to solve a non-problem
[19:56] <dr_willis> I dont see the point of /root/ on the flash drive.
[19:56] <Bunie> yeah thats another thing, constant writes to a flash drive from an OS installed on it may not be good either.
[19:56] <t3514> no I'm not. I don't want to reinstall
[19:57] <t3514> dr_willis: if a flash drive fails its recoverable, if a hdd fails, you start over
[19:57] <cowslammer> help! the networing icon has disappeared off the top panel.  how do i get it back? running nm-applet from a terminal window gets the icon back but it shows the net is disonnected
[19:57] <t3514> why am I here.
[19:57] <Bunie> t3514: Not exactly.
[19:57] <dr_willis> t3514:  ive had flash drives fail where they are not recoverable..
[19:57] <psusi> Bunie, it's definitely not good..
[19:57] <Bunie> it can fail and have damaged files
[19:57] <cowslammer> t3514, if a flash drive fails ur sol
[19:58]  * dr_willis thinks this is the point of 'backups' everything fails...
[19:58] <psusi> cowlicks, depending on the drive, you may still be able to read it when its write lifetime has been exhausted
[19:58] <mile123> t3514: so just configure your drive not sleep too early
[19:58] <pnorman> t3514: if you only have /boot and /root on the flash drive and the rest on a hard drive and the hard drive fails it won't be trivial getting it working with a new drive
[19:58] <cowslammer> help! the networing icon has disappeared off the top panel.  how do i get it back? running nm-applet from a terminal window gets the icon back but it shows the net is disonnected
[19:59] <Bunie> He's left.
[19:59] <cowslammer> help! the networing icon has disappeared off the top panel.  how do i get it back? running nm-applet from a terminal window gets the icon back but it shows the net is disconnected so i still don't have networking
[19:59] <Bunie> cowslammer: Was the icon ever there?
[20:00] <cowslammer> Bunie yes
[20:00] <eduardo> boa tarde a todos, alguem poderia me ajudar na instalaççao de uma placa nvidia pra notebook usando ubuntu 11.10?
[20:00] <Bunie> cowslammer: So it had internet, and thn suddenly it didnt and the icon was gone?
[20:00] <cowslammer> bunie yep
[20:00] <pangolin> !br
[20:00] <svroffaith> anyone here have any experience with ddrescue?
[20:01] <dagerik> Have installed 10.04. I find it hard to grab a window's edge in order to resize it. I can not be the only one with this problem. Why has it not been adressed?
[20:01] <cowslammer> Bunie, rebooting doesn't help either
[20:03] <cowslammer> help! the networing icon has disappeared off the top panel.  how do i get it back? running nm-applet from a terminal window gets the icon back but it shows the net is disconnected so i still don't have networking
[20:03] <Bunie> cowslammer: Sounds like your having driver issues. im new to ubuntu so someone may have to help you with that
[20:03] <Bunie> cowslammer: Does your wireless have a physical light?
[20:04] <Bunie> well actually
[20:04] <Bunie> both your wireless and ethernet stopped working?
[20:04] <Bunie> Have you tried ethernet?
[20:05] <Max51> re sorry
[20:05] <no_gravity> Good Evening! Is it possible to show the amount of bytes transferred through eth0? Im uploading something on the web and would like to know how much it transfers.
[20:06] <Bunie> no_gravity: Im pretty sure KDE has a widget for that. how to do it on gnome im not sure :P
[20:07] <svroffaith> no_gravity, you should set up a conky script and you'll get a ton of info
[20:07] <cowslammer> bunie my wireless doesn't have a light
[20:07] <no_gravity> svroffaith: whats conky?
[20:07] <zer0rez> I've installed 11.10 via the CLI Alternative iso from a flash drive to my Eeepc 900a, I can boot into recovery via GRUB and then do a continue boot from there, but if I boot normally it hangs shortly after the ubuntu loading screen(says ubuntu w/ 4 dots under it) with a flash cli cursor(sometimes white, sometime yellow), any thoughts?
[20:08] <Bunie> cowslammer: did your ethernet ever work? does it work now?
[20:08] <delac> trying to do bit themeing. is there any tool that might help me resolve what gtk widget I am lookin at? (maybe something similar to colorpicker tool, but for gtk widgets?)
[20:10] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | zer0rez
[20:10] <zer0rez> dr_willis, thanks, reading now
[20:12] <bs> i want to add windows Xp load to ubuntu grup
[20:12] <Tamagotchi-0P> grub
[20:12] <Bunie> Thats pretty difficult isnt it?
[20:13] <Bunie> Doesnt the Windows installer like to butcher grub? :3
[20:13] <aeon-ltd> yes
[20:14] <Bunie> You should have installed windows first ;D Lols easiest way :P
[20:15] <rhizmoe> use virtualbox :)
[20:16] <Bunie> bs: Whata re you install Windows XP For?
[20:16] <CrazyGir> it doesn't really make much sense to run windows outside of a vm
[20:16] <bs> Bunie, my web cam work fine on it
[20:16] <SoLost> hi everyone, I am trying to get my ubuntu usb stick to work and I need a little help
[20:17] <bs> Bunie, and other applications
[20:17] <Bunie> bs: I'm sure there are better, easier ways to fix your webcam.
[20:17] <bs> Bunie, i tried it on ubuntu it's gray not colored doono why
[20:18] <bs> Bunie, can you help me adding it to my grup
[20:19] <Bunie> Honestly? I doubt it
[20:19] <Bunie> lol
[20:19] <Bunie> Windows isnt something you can really "add" to grub.
[20:19] <Bunie> you have to re-install grub or something, im not sure. :P
[20:20] <Bunie> and then you probably dont even have your partitions set up to install windows
[20:20] <phil_of_da_futur> hey guys add me on facebook http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Peterson/661137686
[20:20] <Bunie> why add a stranger to facebook lols
[20:20] <phil_of_da_futur> and then dban your computer for optimum defragmentation
[20:21] <Jordan_U> bs: If Windows isn't booting when you select its entry in the grub menu it's most likely a problem with your Windows installation rather than grub.
[20:21] <Bunie> Jordan_U: Im pretty sure he doesnt even have windows installed
[20:22] <Bunie> bs: Your not really giving us enough detail about your setup.
[20:22] <Moesephur> hi all, I am trying to change my boot options so I can try ubuntu but I need a little help
[20:22] <phil_of_da_futur> bs: download pirated windows, >> boot from windows disk>>> delete all partititions>>> install windows>>> download windows loader 2.6 install windows loader 2.6
[20:22] <phil_of_da_futur> there you go
[20:22] <atvr> hi, does anyone knows how to put desktop icon on kubuntu
[20:22] <phil_of_da_futur> i thirkndk
[20:22] <phil_of_da_futur> and then do dban
[20:23] <phil_of_da_futur> ok guys ? :)
[20:23] <Jordan_U> phil_of_da_futur: This isn't the place to try to get facebook friends or to give out random (and incorrect) advice. Please stop doing both.
[20:23] <phil_of_da_futur> sorry
[20:23] <Bunie> Windows Loader is only for NT 6.x systems
[20:23] <Bunie> not XP
[20:23] <phil_of_da_futur> windows loader works on windows 7 :3
[20:23] <Bunie> phil_of_da_futur: Windows 7 is NT 6.1
[20:23] <phil_of_da_futur> oh yeah lol
[20:24] <phil_of_da_futur> i see
[20:24] <Bunie> And dav's already said if Win8 is too complex he wont bother.
[20:24] <cowslammer> help! the networing icon has disappeared off the top panel.  how do i get it back? running nm-applet from a terminal window gets the icon back but it shows the net is disconnected so i still don't have networking
[20:24] <Bunie> cowslammer: Im pretty sure the icon is gone because you have no working networking in general, the icon is the least of your problems.
[20:25] <cowslammer> bunie how do i reenable networking?
[20:25] <Bunie> cowslammer: Im assuming the icon is gone because its not detecting a network device, so it has no reason to be there
[20:25] <phil_of_da_futur> i wanna try win 8
[20:25] <gatto01> prova
[20:25] <phil_of_da_futur> imma torrent it now heehe
[20:25] <Bunie> phil_of_da_futur: Theres a public test build
[20:26] <Bunie> phil_of_da_futur: no reason to pirate it, MS Gives it out.
[20:26] <phil_of_da_futur> oh i see, on the MS website?
[20:26] <phil_of_da_futur> im guessing
[20:26] <Bunie> phil_of_da_futur: Somewhere yeah :P you'd have to google it
[20:26] <phil_of_da_futur> heh
[20:26] <Bunie> windows 8 developer or something.
[20:26] <cowslammer> bunie how do i reenable networking?
[20:27] <phil_of_da_futur> are there any features restricted on it?
[20:27] <Bunie> cowslammer: probably not as easy as your thinking. there could be an infinite number of things wrong with it
[20:27] <Bunie> phil_of_da_futur: no, but i think it has an expiration date, not sure when it expires. might have been Dec31, 2011, for all i know.
[20:27] <iceroot> !ot
[20:27] <iceroot> ##windows
[20:28] <Bunie> lol ice.
[20:28] <phil_of_da_futur> hmm ok
[20:28] <cowslammer> bunie "i don't know" is a valid response
[20:28] <Bunie> cowslammer: But thats not a correct answer
[20:28] <Bunie> cowslammer: if it worked for a while and randomlly stopped, it could be anything.
[20:28] <dr_willis> try enabling networking vya the command line tools.. to trouble shoot.. it could be  a deeper issue
[20:29] <dr_willis> bbl
[20:29] <cowslammer> help! the networing icon has disappeared off the top panel.  how do i get it back? running nm-applet from a terminal window gets the icon back but it shows the net is disconnected so i still don't have networking
[20:29] <Bunie> cowslammer: no one is going to answer you if you spam lo
[20:29] <bullgard6> [Ubuntu 11.10 GNOMEShell 3.2.1] I have done '~$ gsettings set org.gnome.nautilus.preferences always-use-location-entry true', and apparently it works. What file does store the Settings schema 'org.gnome.nautilus.preferences' ?
[20:29] <bs> phil_of_da_futur, what are you talkng about?
[20:30] <bs> Bunie, what details do you want
[20:30] <phil_of_da_futur> huh?
[20:30] <Bunie> bs: Do you have windows already installed?
[20:30] <bs> Bunie, yes i have windows xp and windows 7 installed on one hard and ubuntu installed on the other hard
[20:31] <Bunie> bs: And grub doesnt show a windows option?
[20:31] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | bs
[20:31] <Bunie> bs: someone else would need to help you configure that, im sure its pretty easy
[20:31] <bs> Bunie, grup show windows 7 option
[20:31] <Bunie> bs: And you wanna add XP as well?
[20:31] <Jordan_U> bs: Please run boot info script and pastebin the REULTS.txt it produces.
[20:31] <bs> Bunie, right
[20:32] <Bunie> bs: When you click Windows 7, try pressing "f8" rapidly Lols. Sounds dumb but, it might give you an XP option
[20:32] <rambo298> just upgraded (yeah i know, i'm late) from 9.x to 10.04; i was used to metacity, but compiz is now standard when 10.04 installs? how can i force metacity on boot?
[20:32] <MrKeuner> is there a terminal command to block acpi suspend system
[20:32] <Bunie> bs: or when your Pc comes on, you may have an F11 or F12 option to select to boot from your 2nd hdd.
[20:33] <bullgard6> rambo298: Compiz is no "standard" in Ubuntu 10.04.
[20:33] <bs> Bunie, when i click windows 7 it give me option for windows xp although when i click it dont start it's like if grup change the boot for windows xp only windows 7 work
[20:33] <rambo298> bullgard6, but that's the window mgr that was defaulted when i upgraded
[20:33] <rambo298> i did nothing but upgrade
[20:34] <Bunie> bs: so you have a Windows XP option after you click Windows 7 in grub?
[20:34] <Bunie> bs: Sounds like you killed your XP Partition.
[20:34] <diogo_79> hi, is possible with ubuntu to mount a filesystem from a remote ftp server?
[20:35] <Bunie> diogo_79: Doubt it.
[20:35] <bullgard6> rambo298: I did nothing but upgrading too (but a very long time ago). With me, there is no Compiz. Probably because me previous release 9.10 on this computer did not use Compiz either.
[20:35] <robbbie> hmm for some reason in ubuntu 11.10 my mouse is really choppy sometimes, any ideas? for example dragging it around is not smooth, pauses randomly etc
[20:35] <bs> Bunie, no i didnt kill my windows xp it's just a matter of grup booting
[20:35] <bullgard6> s/me/my/
[20:36] <Bunie> bs: once you select XP, you get two options on screen "Windows 7" and "windows XP Home Edition"?
[20:36] <Bunie> Once you select 7*
[20:36] <diogo_79> that is no?
[20:36] <cowslammer> dr_willis, ifconfig shows wlan0 as being up, what tools should i be using?
[20:36] <rambo298> bullgard6, i'm just not used to compiz; the min/max/ex buttons aren't on the windows, and it's just different; i see comments like "metacity --replace" but that only works for the current session
[20:36] <Jordan_U> diogo_79: Please explain the situation you're in in more detail.
[20:36] <Bunie> diogo_79: I wouldnt know but from what i do know, FTP is just a simple file transfering system, doesnt do much else
[20:37] <Bunie> im the noobie in the room, but atleast im answering ppls :3
[20:37] <Jordan_U> rambo298: In the appearance preferences turn off "Desktop Effects".
[20:37] <bullgard6> rambo298: I am no expert in Compiz details. Please ask other people.
[20:37] <pawel_> siema
[20:38] <bs> Bunie, once i select windows 7 i get two option windows xp and windows 7..windows 7 work fine windows xp refer to wrong boot section
[20:38] <Jordan_U> bs: Did you see my request for boot info script output?
[20:38] <bs> jordan, bash: /home/bs/Downloads/boot_info_script*.sh: No such file or directory
[20:38] <bs> jordan, i did and was working on it
[20:38] <rambo298> Jordan_U, which category is desktop affects?
[20:38] <diogo_79> i want to mount in the local file system a remote ftp file server that hosts a website
[20:38] <Jordan_U> bs: Did you download the file? If so, where did you download it to?
[20:39] <Bunie> Ohh you just wanna host an FTP? :O
[20:39] <Jordan_U> rambo298: System > Preferences > Appearance if I recally correctly.
[20:39] <Jordan_U> s/recally/recall/
[20:39] <bs> jordan, i download it to my desktop
[20:39] <rambo298> Jordan_U, ok i was looking at the compiz settings mgr ... lemme see
[20:40] <agentgasmask> Hi all. I'm using terminator terminal emu, installed from the repos on ubuntu 10.04. The broadcast feature doesn't seem to work. It types each key I press once for each terminal I have open. So if I press the 'd' key with four terminals open, I get: dddd   in just the active window of the group. Any hints? Does anyone else have this problem on 10.04?
[20:40] <Jordan_U> bs: Then you need to run "sudo bash ~/Desktop/boot_info_script*.sh"
[20:41] <cowslammer> help! the networing icon has disappeared off the top panel.  how do i get it back? running nm-applet from a terminal window gets the icon back but it shows the net is disonnected
[20:41] <bs> jordan, it's zip file
[20:41] <Jordan_U> bs: Unzip it first then (by double clicking it).
[20:43] <giannis> grnet
[20:44] <rambo298> Jordan_U, ok i don't see it ... metacity --replace does it but how do i make that happen every boot?
[20:44] <zork> is it just me, or has it been about a week since the last updates?
[20:44] <Jordan_U> rambo298: Do you see "System > Preferences > Desktop Effects"?
[20:45] <rambo298> Jordan_U, no ... on through compizconfig settings manager
[20:45] <Jordan_U> rambo298: Sorry, I meant "System > Preferences > Appearance".
[20:45] <rambo298> and there's no single desktop effects option; only a bunch in the effects cate.
[20:45] <rambo298> yeah appearances is there but visual effects is set to none
[20:46] <Jordan_U> rambo298: Set it to anything else, then set it back to none. After that, metacity should always start instead of compiz.
[20:46] <osmosis> anyone use a skype plugin for empathy?
[20:48] <cowslammer> dr_willis, ifconfig shows wlan0 as being up, what tools should i be using?
[20:48] <bs> jordan, http://paste.ubuntu.com/790952/
[20:48] <bs> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/790952/
[20:49] <rambo298> Jordan_U, okay after searching for available drivers it worked; i'll see if it persists across a reboot; it did across a log out/in
[20:49] <Jordan_U> bs: I need the RESULTS.txt that is produced when you run the script. I don't need the script itself.
[20:49] <michele_> ciao
[20:49] <bs> Jordan_U, how toget the result?
[20:50] <Jordan_U> bs: Where did you unzip the file to?
[20:50] <bs> Jordan_U, desktop
[20:50] <michele_> c'è qualche italiano/a che da supporto?
[20:50] <Myrtti> !it | michele_
[20:51] <Jordan_U> bs: Then run "sudo bash ~/Desktop/boot_info_script*.sh"
[20:51] <michele_> thanks
[20:51]  * captainfixerpc14 seeks nfo on missing fonts with 11.04 FF
[20:52] <bs> Jordan_U, bash: /home/bs/desktop/boot_info_script060/boot_info_script.sh: No such file or directory
[20:52] <cowslammer> dr_willis, ?
[20:52] <rambo298> Jordan_U, ok it survived a reboot (after a second reboot since once in a while i get vertical bars on my Dell inspiron 1501; now how go i get terminal windows from slipping the menu bar on top of the main ubuntu task bar on top?
[20:53] <bs> how to make treminal send the result to pastebin should the command be sudo bash ~/Desktop/boot_info_script*.sh | pastebin
[20:54] <Jordan_U> bs: Close. "sudo bash ~/Desktop/boot_info_script*.sh | pastebinit".
[20:54] <iceroot> bs: what? why sudo bash?
[20:54] <bs> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/790958/
[20:54] <iceroot> bs: escpecially why bash?
[20:54] <robbbie> what daemon controls the mouse? no longer gpm ?
[20:54] <zork> is it just me, or have there been no updates for the last week?
[20:55] <Jordan_U> iceroot: Because the script needs to be run as root and hasn't been set as executable. (it's what the tutorial states to run)
[20:55] <iceroot> Jordan_U: ok
[20:56] <Jordan_U> bs: I need the contents of the file /home/bs/Desktop/RESULTS.txt though.
[20:56] <bs> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/790963/
[20:56] <delac> does anyone know what type of widget Nautilus uses as the "iconview"?
[20:57] <surskitty> Why don't lts ubuntu
[20:57] <surskitty> er, sorry, accidentally hit enter -- update drivers in the kernals so things continue to just work?
[20:57] <permyriad> I'm getting an upstart error when I install samba: "start: Unknown job: smbd"
[20:58] <bs> Jordan_U, did you got the result?
[20:58] <Jordan_U> bs: Yes.
[20:59] <Jordan_U> surskitty: Because backporting drivers is not trivial and can cause regressions. That said it does sometimes happen. But this discussion is really more for #ubuntu-offtopic.
[21:00] <Jordan_U> bs: What is the output of "sudo os-prober"?
[21:00] <dougl> can anyone else get to wiki.xbmc.org?
[21:01] <dougl> why is only half the internet availa ble to me?
[21:02] <MonkeyDust> dougl  it's nighttime on the other half of the planet
[21:02] <dougl> MonkeyDust, lol - how do I fix that?
[21:03] <bullgard6> [Ubuntu 11.10 GNOMEShell 3.2.1] I have done '~$ gsettings set org.gnome.nautilus.preferences always-use-location-entry true', and apparently it works. What file does store the Settings schema 'org.gnome.nautilus.preferences' ?
[21:03] <bs> Jordan_U, how to find out?
[21:03] <zork> dougl:  no clue.  might start by telling us who your ISP and DNS are.
[21:03] <Jordan_U> dougl: Are you able to access the page by entering 205.251.128.242 (the ip address of wiki.xbmc.org) into your address bar?
[21:04] <permyriad> xbmc has been going through some dns changes this weekend
[21:04] <Jordan_U> bs: Run "sudo os-prober" and tell me what it prints, or run "sudo os-prober | pastebinit" and give me the link that pastebinit outputs.
[21:04] <bs> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/790971/
[21:06] <dougl> Jordan_U, I can see the page with the IP but is the same page as xbmc.org - apparently there was a dns update?
[21:06] <kjm> anyone have any luck installing the Cinnamon DE on amd64?
[21:06] <blakhawk> hello everyone, i was hoping someone here could help me remember how to do something, how do you find the /dev/ location for a usb device, lsusb finds the device and gives a description of it, but how do you find its location in the /dev/ directory i tried 'dmesg' but could not find it there and when i do 'ls /dev/ttyusb*' it tells me there is no files/directories there...does anyone have any ideas?
[21:07] <dyd_> guys, i have to install samba on linux, but i can't connect with the laptop where ubuntu is installed (has network problems), so how can i download samba separately?
[21:07] <dyd_> i'm using a win machine to connect
[21:08] <dagerik> My usb stick has a read only partition I assume. It is mountes as read only. But how can I confirm this? I am new to mounting and filesystems in general.
[21:08] <bs> Jordan_U, why ubuntu is so cmplicated :)
[21:09] <Jordan_U> bs: Your Windows XP install is broken. I don't know how to fix it, but you might try asking in ##windows. Once your Windows XP install is fixed you can run "sudo update-grub" to automatically add an entry for it.
[21:09] <Jordan_U> bs: This problem has nothing to do with Ubuntu.
[21:10] <cindy_> will somebody please help me step by step to put java on my computer with ubuntu
[21:11] <rambo298> any idea why i can't drag windows around with compiz?
[21:11] <bs> Jordan_U, it was working fine today just before i do "sudo update-grub"
[21:11] <bs> Jordan_U, how did you know it's broken
[21:11] <n2diy> I just upgraded an Xubuntu 10.10 box to Ubuntu 11.10, and now the box won't boot. The keyboard LEDs blink at turn on, but that's it. ‎I can't even get into CMOS!?
[21:11] <Jordan_U> bs: You were able to boot Windows XP yesterday, and the only thing that has changed is that you ran update-grub?
[21:12] <dyd_> how can i download samba "setup" for ubuntu from a windows machine?
[21:12] <bs> Jordan_U, true because when i install ubuntu it couldnt find it in the load screen
[21:12] <cindy_> please somebody help me with java on ubuntu'
[21:12] <Benjam1980> hi. maybe a stupid question. i am using ubuntu 11.10 and did not yet receive an update to firefox 9 or thunderbird 9. is this still not released by the ubuntu team?
[21:13] <bs> Jordan_U, so i run it live from usb stick and some one help me to update the grup and well now i can load ubuntu and windows 7 but not xp lol
[21:13] <iceroot> Benjam1980: correct, still not released
[21:13] <urlin2u> rambo298, you have window decoration ticked on and have you tried holding down the alt key when clicking to move?
[21:13] <permyriad> are there known issues with samba?  I'm getting an error on install
[21:13] <permyriad> on a fresh 11.10
[21:13] <iceroot> !details | permyriad
[21:13] <Benjam1980> okay., thanks iceroot.
[21:13] <Jordan_U> bs: I don't understand your answer. Please rephrase it.
[21:13] <rambo298> Jordan_U, urlin2u - ok it works better ... so another Q; is it worth upgrading to 10.10?
[21:13] <Benjam1980> could not find anything about it using google...
[21:13] <urlin2u> rambo298, your choice.
[21:13] <rambo298> i just added a startup "metacity --replace"
[21:14] <rambo298> i guess i want a LTS version
[21:14] <bs> Jordan_U, i installed ubuntu 11.10.then when i start the pc i just get option for runing xp and 7
[21:14] <Jordan_U> rambo298: Why did you add anything your session startup when things were apparently working without it?
[21:14] <bs> Jordan_U,  so i run the ubuntu from usb stick and jin this room
[21:14] <Guest13054> can somebody call me
[21:14] <cindy_> y is nobody responding my question
[21:15] <Guest13054> only my name
[21:15] <Benjam1980> Guest13054
[21:15] <bs> Jordan_U, and some one help me to mount and upgrade the dev/sda which contain the ubuntu
[21:15] <Guest13054> thx
[21:15] <Benjam1980> np
[21:15] <urlin2u> bs, you install xp after the w7 install?
[21:15] <bs> Jordan_U, so now i'm able to run ubuntu and 7 but not xp
[21:15] <Jordan_U> Guest13054: 1: Don't run your IRC client as root 2: Next time please use #test.
[21:15] <bullgard6> [Ubuntu 11.10 GNOMEShell 3.2.1] I have done '~$ gsettings set org.gnome.nautilus.preferences always-use-location-entry true', and apparently it works. What file does store the Settings schema 'org.gnome.nautilus.preferences' ?
[21:15] <zer0rez> dr_willis, the nomodeset didn't fix the issue by the way, any other tips?
[21:15] <permyriad> on apt-get install samba: start: Unknown job: smbd
[21:15] <bs> Jordan_U, nope first xp on partion then 7 on another partion then i connect new harddisk and install ubuntu
[21:16] <permyriad> this despite /etc/init/smbd.conf existing and looking okay (to my unexperienced eye)
[21:16] <EvilNoob> I miss gnome 3
[21:16] <cindy_> i need help installing java with ubuntu
[21:16] <Resistance> !java | cindy_
[21:16] <Resistance> cindy_:  which Java are you trying to install, Oracle's or OpenJDK?
[21:16] <cindy_> probably jdk
[21:17] <Resistance> cindy_:  "Sun Java" (Oracle)?  or free, non-sun, non-oracle Java?
[21:17] <Guest25991> the braso thing just ejects 20% through
[21:17] <Resistance> cindy_:  if you mean the stuff from java.com's site, you'll have a different method
[21:17] <cindy_> free nonsun oracle
[21:18] <sandking> hi
[21:18] <Guest25991> and i tried booting a different distro of linux and the cd's just eject
[21:18] <Resistance> cindy_:  "Oralce" and "Sun" are the same...
[21:18] <cindy_> yes i need java to run a program
[21:18] <sandking> does anyone here uses Draftsight under 64bit Ubuntu?
[21:18] <n2diy> I just upgraded an Xubuntu 10.10 box to Ubuntu 11.10, and now the box won't boot. The keyboard LEDs blink at turn on, but that's it. ‎I can't even get into CMOS!?
[21:18] <sandking> i managed to install it but it crashes on me after starting
[21:18] <Resistance> cindy_:  i know you do.  there's two general versions of Java, a free opensource version, and the one that Oracle produces (previously Sun Java).
[21:19] <Resistance> cindy_:  you can try the open-source one first, if that doesnt work, you'll need Oracle's java...
[21:19] <cindy_> ok which 1 do you think would b the best 1
[21:19] <bs> Jordan_U, any hope for the issue to be fixed
[21:19] <Jordan_U> bs: Have you booted Windows XP successfully since you installed Windows 7?
[21:19] <cindy_> how do i do these programs. could you walk me through step by step in anyway
[21:20] <Resistance> cindy_:  start with OpenJDK... if that doesnt work, you'll need Oracle's.  in terminal: sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[21:20] <cindy_> ok how do i get to terminal
[21:20] <thasquintz> Hello - I'm very new to Ubuntu and am having difficulty getting my webcam to work.  Would anyone be willing to assist?
[21:20] <bs> Jordan_U, ofcource many times
[21:21] <rambo298> thasquintz, which version of ubuntu?
[21:21] <thasquintz> 11.10
[21:21] <pierre2> hi guys, my webcam used to work (lifecam VX-3000) in skype but now it doesn't seem to work. However when I do a lsusb, it comes up. Any ideas please?
[21:21] <cindy_> resistance dont stop now
[21:21] <rambo298> thasquintz, => https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[21:21]  * StepNjump pierre2 is now StepNjump
[21:21] <Jordan_U> bs: Sorry, I need to leave now.
[21:21] <StepNjump> StepNjump  re: Lifecam VX-3000
[21:22] <rambo298> Jordan_U, txs for your help
[21:23] <thasquintz> rambo298  i've looked at that site and others for hours now, and haven't gotten anywhere.  It works with Cheese, but won't work with vlc, skype, or guvcview.
[21:24] <dagerik> I open my usb drive with gparted and it only shows unallocated data. But the drive does have a partition on it with files. Does this mean that partition has been "burned" into the chip and is read only?
[21:24] <bs> if i remove ubuntu how to restore the old mbr boot
[21:24] <geoffmcc> bs: as in booting windows
[21:25] <rambo298> thasquintz, what webcam is it?
[21:25] <bs> geoffmcc, yes
[21:25] <zork> cindy_, terminal can be accessed by ctrl-alt-t in Unity.  You can also access 7 "virtual terminals" with ctrl-alt-f1-f7 (the last is actually your X session)
[21:25] <thasquintz> rambo298  it is a Gear Head WC735I webcam
[21:26] <zork> those virtual terminals are very handy if your window server goes kaput.
[21:26] <geoffmcc> bs: you need to load the windisk and then choose option to repair computer. Startup Repair option may fix it, but if not just choose command prompt and type bootrec.exe
[21:27] <paer76> do you guys know how to enable 3D acceleration on ubuntu with  a AMD E2 vison processor /graphic card
[21:28] <hubx> I know this sounds odd: but I recently switched my Sony laptop from slackware to ubuntu and its hotter than before. What I meant to say is that the cpu fan spins with a lower frequency
[21:28] <hubx> could it be some CPU/CPU fan regulation Ubuntu does or is it just coincidence. (dusty fan and didn't notice before)
[21:28] <geoffmcc> bs: if that dont work it may be bootrec.exe /fixmbr. its been a while since i had to do it, just search google for windows fix mbr if this dont get you there
[21:29] <zork> paer76, the jockey-gtk tool should help you install proprietary drivers for your AMD GPU.
[21:29] <rambo298> thasquintz, do you get any errors when you try skype?
[21:29] <primemover> anyone have advice for someone having USB problems?
[21:29] <zork> paer76, hit the "win" key, and type "jockey" and an icon "additional drivers" should come up.
[21:30] <zork> click that, provide password, and see what you get.
[21:30] <primemover> upgraded to 11.10 and USB has completely failed
[21:31] <Si2100> How ?
[21:31] <rambo298> thasquintz, capture the output of "lsusb" and "lsmod | grep video" and pastebin it
[21:31] <hubx> primemover, my usb doesnt work when i'm off ac due to some power saving features
[21:31] <n2diy> I just upgraded an Xubuntu 10.10 box to Ubuntu 11.10, and now the box won't boot. The keyboard LEDs blink at turn on, but that's it. ‎I can't even get into CMOS!?
[21:31] <primemover> really
[21:31] <primemover> so I should try off battery?
[21:31] <hubx> n2diy, thats a kernel panic
[21:32] <hubx> primemover, It happens to me when I'm battery so should be on ac
[21:32] <primemover> hubx, i am on ac now and no dice
[21:32] <hubx> but I don't if thats default or just some setting I hit accentually
[21:32] <primemover> i was thinking about downgrading the kernel
[21:33] <robbbie> any idea what makes my mouse choppy or how to fix it? :\
[21:33] <urlin2u> bs, so I looked at the bootscript you have an extra file in grub /grub/core.img  and the w7 is in sdb and the ubuntu and xp are in sda HD's I would chroot in and purge and replace grub, if that does not get it working I would put easybcd in W7 to boot xp.
[21:33] <n2diy> hubx, I think it's worse than that, ‎I can't boot from the CD either, something strange has happened.
[21:33] <thasquintz> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[21:33] <thasquintz> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[21:33] <thasquintz> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[21:33] <thasquintz> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[21:33] <thasquintz> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[21:33] <FloodBot1> thasquintz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:33] <thasquintz> Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[21:33] <rambo298> !pastebin | thasquintz
[21:33] <urlin2u> bs, you might just try thr easybcd first and see if tatgets xp in the windows bootmenu and booted.
[21:34] <urlin2u> that gets
[21:35] <zer0rez> I've installed 11.10 via the CLI Alternative iso from a flash drive to my Eeepc 900a, I can boot into recovery via GRUB and then do a continue boot from there, but if I boot normally it hangs shortly after the ubuntu loading screen(says ubuntu w/ 4 dots under it) with a flash cli cursor(sometimes white, sometime yellow), i tried to nomodeset as per dr_willis but still no go, any other thoughts?
[21:35] <thasquintz> rampo298 i just pasted it in
[21:35] <thasquintz> to pastebin
[21:36] <thasquintz> rambo298 http://paste.ubuntu.com/791010/
[21:36] <michele_> ita?
[21:36] <michele_> qual'è la chat italiana
[21:37] <DJones> !it | michele_
[21:37] <rambo298> thasquintz, i'm not sure the webcam module is loaded
[21:37] <thasquintz> rambo298 http://paste.ubuntu.com/791013/
[21:38] <newb> hey. "./exe" works in dir, but can i do it via path? ". /home/user/folder/exe", "source /home/user/folder/exe" does not work :( how to do this right, cuz i am tied always cd-ing to this dir.
[21:38] <thasquintz> rambo298 is that something I can load and fix?
[21:39] <rambo298> thasquintz, is this a usb webcam?
[21:39] <rambo298> it is, right?
[21:39] <thasquintz> rambo298 yes it is.
[21:39] <iceroot> newb: /home/user/folder/exe
[21:40] <rambo298> thasquintz, remove it, do lsusb, then put it back in, lsusb again and pastebin both lists
[21:40] <iceroot> newb: without a .
[21:40] <primemover> anyone having issues with USB peripherals when upgrading to oneiric?
[21:40] <iceroot> !anyone | primemover
[21:40] <newb> iceroot: haha, thanks!
[21:40] <geoffmcc> thasquintz: I use my usb webcam w/ stopmotion. stopmotion will not load the camera unless, before opening stopmotion I launch cheese first. Then it works without a problem until next restart. Im wondering if you open cheese first and then try it the way you been trying if it would work. I know it not a real solution, but something to look into for now
[21:41]  * captainfixerpc14 seeks help with a loss of fonts in 11.04 only in FF after installing ms-corefonts - ne one might aide a poor old man - hehe please?
[21:41] <rambo298> thasquintz, see geoffmcc
[21:41] <primemover> all USB functions failed when upgrading to 1110
[21:41] <geoffmcc> thasquintz: ps. i meant to say open cheese, once cam loads close cheese and then try the app you want
[21:41] <primemover> 11.10
[21:41] <thasquintz> rambo198,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/791017/
[21:42] <rambo298> thasquintz, use <tab> to autocomplete
[21:42] <primemover> will downgrading the kernel fix this potentially
[21:42] <rambo298> thasquintz, so it's the Z-Star Microelectronics Corp.
[21:42] <rambo298> that's the gear head webcam?
[21:43] <thasquintz> rambo298 http://paste.ubuntu.com/791021/
[21:43] <iceroot> primemover: you have a keyboard up for some writing on that machine?
[21:44] <primemover> iceroot: yes?
[21:44] <n2diy> hubx, reseated the mother board power connector, and now ‫I'm booting again, whew!
[21:44] <iceroot> primemover: please put in an usb-device after that type "dmesg" on a terminal and paste the output
[21:44] <iceroot> !paste | primemover
[21:44] <bs> urlin2u, xp and 7 are on sdb ubuntu is on sda
[21:45] <thasquintz> rambo298  the camera works with cheese, but not with anything else.
[21:45] <lewowpard> anyone knoe why zeitgeist datahub always ends up being a zombie on natty? am using ubuntu classic
[21:45] <urlin2u> bs, yeah I saw that I still think the esaybcd install in W7 would be the easiest way to boot xp
[21:46] <thasquintz> geoffmcc:  i am trying that now.  thanks.
[21:46] <geoffmcc> bs: did you try the bootrec.exe /fixmbr command, as thats all i ever had to do after uninstalling ubuntu to get my windows to boot again
[21:46] <bs> urlin2u, what do you mean? what should i do?
[21:47] <robbbie> whats the X11 channel?
[21:47] <iceroot> !alis | robbbie
[21:47] <bs> urlin2u, i guess ubuntu writ the mbr to sda and delete it from sdb thats why xp can't load
[21:47] <n2diy> !gnome
[21:48] <primemover> http://paste.ubuntu.com/791029/
[21:48] <urlin2u> bs, you have grub in sda but the other two OS's are in sdb it is booting W7, do you know what esaybcd is?
[21:48] <urlin2u> easybcd*
[21:48] <n2diy> how do I install Gnome on a new 11.10 install?
[21:48] <bs> urlin2u, no i dont know what esaybcd
[21:49] <gh0strider> does anyone know if i commented out wlan0 because i only want to use wlan1 with my usb wifi adapter in the file " /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules" would i mess anything up?
[21:49] <vox> n2diy: it installs by default on the desktop install
[21:49] <primemover> had no issues with USB in 11.04, now it rarely works
[21:49] <primemover> got to get this fixed today
[21:49] <vox> n2diy: is only the server installs that dont have a gui
[21:49] <primemover> posted dmesg output
[21:50] <thasquintz> geoffmcc and rambo298:  that didn't work for me.  Still unable to connect webcam.
[21:50] <iceroot> primemover: i would suggest you open a bug against the kernel and put your description and the paste on the bug "ubuntu-bug linux" because the kernel is tracing, as a workaround: when booting the pc press shift to bring up the grub menu and choose an older kernel from that list
[21:50] <n2diy> vox, I thought Unity was the default Desktop?
[21:50] <bs> urlin2u, i donno what is easybcd
[21:50] <Agamemnus> Hello, what is the command to check a file's type?
[21:50] <primemover> yea thats what i was thinking
[21:50] <iceroot> Agamemnus: file
[21:50] <primemover> what about using a later kernel?
[21:50] <urlin2u> bs, do you know how to boot from the sdb HD?
[21:51] <iceroot> primemover: also possible but for that you need backports or a ppa
[21:51] <iceroot> !backports | primemover
[21:51] <iceroot> !who | primemover
[21:51] <vox> n2diy: it's still gnome. if you want to run classic gnome, at the login screen select your login name, then there's a drop-down menu box along the bottom - select "gnome classic"
[21:51] <bs> urlin2u, you mean from motherboard or what?
[21:51] <Agamemnus> thanks
[21:51] <iceroot> urlin2u: choose your sdb hdd in the ios to boot first from that
[21:51] <grape_> how do i download linux mint 11? it looks like they only let you download 12 on the main site now?
[21:52] <bs> urlin2u, i got option in grup to load windows 7 which on sdb
[21:52] <iceroot> !mint | grape_
[21:52] <primemover> !packaging
[21:52] <dj_who> hi i have problem with kvm networking
[21:52] <rambo298> thasquintz, did you see this link? http://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/video-is-not-working-on-Ubuntu-11-10/td-p/216792
[21:52] <iceroot> !details | dj_who
[21:52] <iceroot> dj_who: also see #kvm
[21:52] <n2diy> vox, ok, that's it, I have to apt-get gnome-classic, then I can use it.
[21:52] <vox> n2diy: umm thats weird, you shouldnt need to do that
[21:52] <dj_who> using aqemu i'm creating tap iface
[21:52] <dj_who> then
[21:53] <iceroot> !enter | dj_who
[21:53] <mac> -
[21:53] <urlin2u> bs, no the sdb hard drive booted first rather then the sdb, thwere are some anomalies in the bootscript so booting from the sdb where the MS bootloader is in the mbr should boot XP if it is bootable.
[21:53] <rambo298> thasquintz, i think the usb p&p isn't loading the .so for your z-star chip-based webcam
[21:53] <n2diy> vox, I upgraded from Xubuntu, so maybe that's why?
[21:53] <urlin2u> bs, sorry the sdb should be booted first to test this.
[21:53] <rambo298> thasquintz, once more ... do "lsmod" and pastebin it with  your webcam connected
[21:53] <vox> n2diy: ahh thats possible
[21:53] <rambo298> but no grep
[21:53] <dj_who> in guest setting adress and route add default gw address of the host
[21:54] <n2diy> 73
[21:54] <dj_who> and under host i'm adding route add -host guest_ip
[21:55] <dj_who> just like in http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Networking
[21:55] <dj_who> on the botom of this pag
[21:55] <dj_who> *e
[21:55] <dj_who> why is not working
[21:55] <StepNjump> I am about to install something with make install. I would like to backup all / except anything below ~/ can someone tell me how to do this? In case there is a problem with the new program, I would like to restore back to a stable state. Thank you
[21:56] <dj_who> anyone can help
[21:56] <dj_who> ?
[21:56] <iceroot> dj_who: as already said, put your detailed question in one line, noone will follow your problem over 10 lines or more
[21:56] <glebihan> !checkinstall | StepNjump
[21:56] <iceroot> dj_who: also have a look at the channel #kvm
[21:56] <dj_who> i've been there
[21:57] <StepNjump> awsome, thank you glebihan!
[21:57] <glebihan> StepNjump, you're welcome
[21:57] <grape_> what does it mean when a download link says it has windows installer or not? does that refer to the distro being able to boot from a cd or not?
[21:57] <thasquintz> rambo298 http://paste.ubuntu.com/791039/
[21:57] <captainfixerpc14> question;  running 11.04, using Firefox, after installing ttf-mscorefonts, i lost all text viewable in firefox pages - have removed fonts - via terminal and package manager also have rebuilt fcache - ideas are welcome - chromium works fine - other browsers as well - please????
[21:58] <thasquintz> geoffmcc:  camera doesn't work in stopmotion
[21:58] <dj_who> seems there's no one who can help
[21:59] <captainfixerpc14> I hate when that happens
[21:59] <urlin2u> bs, you understand having the sdb HD boot rather then the sda with ubuntu to get the straight windows bootloader to see if XP boots from there.
[21:59] <ferae> Hey all, just did an update and Java was gone?
[21:59] <ferae> Then I saw this: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/java-to-be-removed-from-ubuntu-uninstalled-from-user-machines/
[22:00] <rambo298> thasquintz, do you have this file -> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l1compat.so
[22:00] <olecram> hello to everybody
[22:01] <olecram> somebady knows how to instal enlightment in xubuntu?
[22:01] <dj_who> anyone can help with this kvm?
[22:01] <thasquintz> rambo298:  yes, I have that file
[22:03] <rambo298> thasquintz, ok here we go with the wild wild west of linux ... i think the driver isn't loaded so if you ld-preload the so it may work
[22:03] <rambo298> thasquintz, go here => http://paste.ubuntu.com/791043/
[22:04] <rambo298> so do a preload, then run skype
[22:04] <mac> can any one here send me all files of folder isolinux of mint 12 dvd 64 bit .iso?
[22:05] <rambo298> thasquintz, you will likely have to do the preload as root
[22:05] <bs> urlin2u, can give it a try brb
[22:05] <thasquintz> rambo298:  no idea how to do that :)
[22:06] <Corey> I just tripped over a Karmic box in my environment.  What's the "sane" way to upgrade that to Lucid?
[22:06]  * tnk1 is back.
[22:06] <thasquintz> rambo298:  "so if you ld-preload the so it may work: is that what the pastebin just did?
[22:06] <Corey> Not sure if sudo sed -i 's/karmic/lucid/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[22:06] <Corey> will blow up on me.
[22:07] <StepNjump> Yes! this is great stuff indeed glebihan!
[22:07] <Guest78100> can any one here send me all files of folder isolinux of mint 12 dvd 64 bit .iso?
[22:07] <SunTsu> Guest78100: which part of "not supported here" is it you don't understand?
[22:08] <urlin2u> Corey, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[22:09] <rambo298> thasquintz, yeah it's an excerpt from a discussion here => http://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/video-is-not-working-on-Ubuntu-11-10/td-p/216792
[22:10] <urlin2u> Corey, you see the eol link?
[22:10] <Corey> urlin2u: yes, thanks.
[22:10] <urlin2u> Corey, cool. :D
[22:10] <Folklore> sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-devel
[22:10] <Folklore> not workin
[22:10] <Folklore> what's the correct name?
[22:11] <thasquintz> rambo298:  that didn't fix the problem.  webcam still works in cheese, but nothing else.
[22:11] <dragonslay> you need to give the kernal version number, i guess
[22:11] <Folklore> how I do that
[22:11] <dragonslay> try searching for package in synaptic
[22:11] <guntbert> !!info build-essential | Folklore
[22:12] <rambo298> thasquintz, so you did ld preload in a terminal window in root, left the window up and then tried skype? do another lsmod and pastebin it with the ldpreload
[22:12] <Corey> Folklore: Could also check the linux-image packages, IIRC that's how the kernel is named.
[22:12] <guntbert> !info build-essential | Folklore  that should pull in everything you need
[22:12] <rambo298> thasquintz, ummm maybe it won't show up with lsmod since it's a shared object lib and not a module
[22:12] <Folklore> build-essential command not found
[22:13] <rambo298> thasquintz, is your skype installed in /usr/bin/skype?
[22:13] <rambo298> Folklore, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[22:13] <guntbert> Folklore: install it
[22:13] <Folklore> yeah I already have that
[22:14] <Folklore> my real issue is #include <linux/module.h>  it isn't finding that
[22:14] <Folklore> so i read installing the kernel dev may fix it
[22:14] <Corey> Folklore: Use apt-file to find out which package provides module.h
[22:15] <rambo298> Folklore, you have to symlink to your specific linux version headers directory
[22:16] <thasquintz> rambo298:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/791054/
[22:16] <rambo298> thasquintz, where'
[22:16] <rambo298> s skype installed?
[22:17] <shomon> could anyone help me to get skype's microphone working? It is just the microphone that doesn't work. how can I diagnose this problem? alsamixer looks right and not muted, and I am getting an error of a large value in snd_pcm_avail_update()
[22:17] <dyd___> how can i access powermanagement? i want to remove the auto-lock and whatever, i just want it ALWAYS ON
[22:17] <Folklore> thanks
[22:17] <rambo298> thasquintz, what's "which skype" return?
[22:17] <thasquintz> rambo298, yes it is installed in usr bin
[22:18] <thasquintz> rambo298:  /usr/bin/skype
[22:18] <New11> hello
[22:19] <StepNjump> Is someone familiar here on how to back up the whole kernel on my workstation here EXCEPT my home folder either with dd or something else?
[22:19] <rambo298> thasquintz, after shelling the ld-preload, can you run skype from the same terminal window?
[22:19] <New11> I want to connect to undernet  cand you help me anyone ?
[22:19] <StepNjump> With which app New11?
[22:19] <atengesdal> exit
[22:20] <atengesdal> logout
[22:20] <LABcrab> Hello!  Using Ubuntu, i want to keep track of when a non-RSS sites updates.  How can i do this?  Using Google, it would be site:example.com and then select the "updated this month" or a parameter like that.  How do i do this in Ubuntu?
[22:20]  * tnk1 is away: Gone away for now
[22:20] <StepNjump> New11, have you tried Xchat yet?
[22:20] <New11> StepNjump sorry I don;
[22:21] <dagerik> What is /dev/sr0 and /dev/sr1 used for?
[22:21] <StepNjump> do you know how to go to your terminal New11 ?
[22:21] <Maverick> Hi everyone
[22:21] <StepNjump> CTRL-ALT-T
[22:21] <StepNjump> and then type: sudo apt-get install xchat
[22:21] <rypervenche> shomon: Type "skype -version"
[22:21] <New11> k
[22:21] <theadmin> dagerik: cd drives
[22:21] <dagerik> theadmin: My usb drive is automtically munted on /dev/sr1, is that weird? Why dies this happen?
[22:21] <New11> and now?
[22:22] <theadmin> dagerik: Might be formatted weirdly -- I've seen drives with Mac partition tables do that
[22:22] <Maverick> Does someone know if it is possible to hide the scrollbars in Eye of GNOME when in fullscreen mode?
[22:22] <LABcrab> Hey peeps!  Anyone has an answer to my question?
[22:22] <StepNjump> New11: Undernet is in the list at the bottom in xchat
[22:23] <dagerik> theadmin: What does formatted weirdly means? Isn't it either formattes as vfat, ext or some other file system?
[22:23] <thasquintz> rambo298:  yes, skype opens automatically after the ld-preload.
[22:24] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[22:24] <New11> StepNjump sorry I don;
[22:24] <New11> StepNjump but where I find the xchat ?
[22:24] <StepNjump> New11, what is wrong?
[22:25] <StepNjump> are you running Ubuntu New11?
[22:25] <New11> yes
[22:25] <rambo298> thasquintz, hmm so what library is cheese using to work that isn't getting loaded by skype ... that is the question
[22:26] <StepNjump> ok so just go to your terminal by pressing CTRL ALT T at the same time and a black window will open.l. Just type sudo apt-get install xchat new11
[22:26] <lenovo> StepNjump I find it
[22:27] <StepNjump> lenovo?
[22:28] <lenovo> it me New11  sorry things are a little bit complicate now, but I hope to find what I want (connect to undernet)
[22:28] <meco> Does anyone know how to download videos from DailyMotion?
[22:28] <dragonslay> dragonslay:
[22:29] <rambo298> thasquintz, have you tried empathy?
[22:29] <dragonslay> meco, dwhlper for firefox
[22:29] <MachintoshCJ> yo
[22:29] <meco> ok
[22:29] <niftylettuce> in gedit2 the middle mouse button when pushed left or right moved the cursor point left or right (equivalent of left and right with arrow keys while editing a file) -- now in gnome3/gedit3 this feature does not exist
[22:29] <niftylettuce> is there a workaround? or how might I re-enable this? (e.g. middle mouse left/right in Chrome goes Back/Forward)
[22:29] <dagerik> I have a partition on a usb drive formatted as iso9660(compact disk file system), and is automtically mounted as ro(read only), because ubuntu thinks it is a CD. how can I write to it? or delete the partition? gparted sees only unallocated data.
[22:31] <MachintoshCJ> poop
[22:31] <thasquintz> rambo298:  I have not tried empathy
[22:32] <phil_of_da_futur> can i use unebootin to install micro xp on to a usb drive?
[22:33] <phil_of_da_futur> can i use unebootin to install micro xp on to a usb drive?
[22:33] <phil_of_da_futur> can i use unebootin to install micro xp on to a usb drive?
[22:33] <phil_of_da_futur> can i use unebootin to install micro xp on to a usb drive?
[22:33] <FloodBot1> phil_of_da_futur: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:34] <SVNDR> Can i download Ubuntu and dual boot it with windows without CD or USB? i swear i used to be able to a couple years ago
[22:35] <sewerurchin> anybody running Xen?I have a quick question..
[22:36] <SVNDR> sewerurchin: i am, i might be able to help?
[22:36] <StepNjump> oh I get it lenovo is New11
[22:37] <liwik> hola
[22:37] <liwik> :D
[22:37] <mmlj4> for how long is a release supported (available patches, etc.)?
[22:39] <MaxHR> Hello, am getting messages about certificates being bad for secure websites, and when trying to install new packages... can someone advise me how to update the certs?
[22:39] <auronandace> !release | mmlj4
[22:41] <mmlj4> danke
[22:41] <yva> is there a way to convert a txt file from utf to iso?
[22:43] <meco> Does anyone know how to download videos from DailyMotion? I installed the DownloadHelper for firefox, but it doesn't do what it's supposed to.
[22:43] <SunTsu> yva: more than one, the most popular would be recode
[22:44] <yva> SunTsu> when I try with gedit I got "Could not save the file", can I force it?
[22:44] <texnet> @MaxHR, Check the following, it may help. http://serverfault.com/questions/151157/ubuntu-10-04-curl-how-do-i-fix-update-the-ca-bundle
[22:44] <SunTsu> yva: depends on the reason, what are you trying to convert?
[22:44] <rypervenche> yva: iconv
[22:45] <yva> I got a few problematic characters but I want to force it
[22:45] <cindy_> i tried downloading java and it is not working please help
[22:45] <bastidrazor> phil_of_da_futur: no
[22:47] <cindy_> i tried to download java did not work please help
[22:47] <cindy_> hello can anyone help me
[22:48] <bastidrazor> cindy_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[22:48] <dagerik> cindy_: You can use the software center to download packages
[22:48] <cindy_> i tried that and it did not work
[22:49] <cindy_> im really struggling here big bro
[22:49] <yva> rypervenche, SunTsu> iconv works perfectly, thanks!
[22:52] <BitWraith> on Gentoo, there is an atom called gst-plugins-soup that Second Life uses. What is it called in Ubuntu's packaging system?
[22:53] <Pascoal> !usb install
[22:53] <MaxHR> texnet: ok, this is a default install of kubunut 11.10 I am running, and it already has openssl installed... any other ideas?
[22:53] <MaxHR> I read the link, not sure what else to do at this point
[22:54] <BitWraith> I've been apt-cache searching for it, and I'm having trouble finding it
[22:54] <Adaline> :P
[22:54] <theTroy> I have connected an external screen to VGA port on my laptop. First time it worked fine. I then disconnected (and initially disabled) the screen in the Nvidia settings. When I now try to connect it back, it still works just fine, with exception that the screen has purple colour tone all over it. I checked the cable and connected the screen to a desktop, and it worked fine. I have Nvidia video card and Ubuntu 10.04
[22:55] <trism> BitWraith: gstreamer0.10-plugins-good has libgstsouphttpsrc.so, perhaps that is it?
[22:56] <Iznougoud> Good evening. Anyone in here had any experience with "torrentflux"?
[22:56] <deadlyninja> im trying to use an ISO as a package source, anyone know how?
[22:56] <dyd___> how can i create a broadband connection? i have a wifi router and i get the signal, but for some reason related to my provider i have to create a broadband connection to access internet (it's the way i'm doing it right now with this xp machine)
[22:57] <BitWraith> trism: I already have that installed.
[22:58] <BitWraith> I must be missing something else. Thanks anyway for your help.
[23:00] <diverdude> If i download php 5.4 RC4 src. where would be the appropriate place to put the source files?
[23:05] <StepNjump> This is really weird... my webcam used to work just fine in Skype and now nothing... pretty weird! Ubuntu 11.04
[23:07] <raldi> After upgrading to oneiric, my display is stuck at 1280x1024, and the dropdown has no other resolutions.  Googling tells me I should "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", but that command returns with no output. It also suggests I edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but i don't have one
[23:09] <diverdude> If i download php 5.4 RC4 src. where would be the appropriate place to put the source files?
[23:10] <d1g1ta1> Is it possible to install and run a program on a USB flash drive without affecting the operating system in any way when the drive is not connected other than the loss of that one program, and if so, how?
[23:10] <sumosu> diverdude: i guess somewhere in /usr/src but i would google it
[23:11] <Ben64> d1g1ta1: depends on the program, but yes
[23:11] <d1g1ta1> Ben, let's say I want to install OpenSSH in this way, how do I go about it?
[23:12] <Ben64> thats not really a good candidate for it
[23:12] <Ben64> openssh isn't bad though, should just install it normally
[23:13] <LABcrab> Darn.
[23:13] <SVNDR> how long does it genrally take to Create persistent files when installing ubuntu from USB?
[23:13] <d1g1ta1> Ben64: I'm running out of disk space, so any additional program is problematic.
[23:14] <Ben64> free up some space.. look into bleachbit or repartitioning the drive
[23:14] <MaxHR> Can anyone suggest how to get my security certs up to date?  I am using 11.10 kubuntu, and get the message when accessing some secure websites and installing new software that they are invalid
[23:14] <d1g1ta1> Ben64: also, the point is to limit access to openSSH when the USB drive is not available to the user of the PC
[23:14] <SunTsu> d1g1ta1: that would be of which use?
[23:15] <d1g1ta1> Ben64: without having to issue separate credentials for users
[23:15] <SunTsu> d1g1ta1: if you want to limit access, there's permissions
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> MaxHR: does it happen in all browsers?
[23:15] <d1g1ta1> I have about 20 programs I want to install on a USB flash drive.
[23:15] <d1g1ta1> No way will these 20 programs and data fit on this hard drive
[23:16] <raldi> Can anyone confirm whether it's normal or a bug that "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" does nothing and returns with no output on my system?
[23:17] <Ben64> openssh is 3MB
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> raldi: if it succeeds it will output nothing
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: client or server ;)
[23:17] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: both combined :)
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> nice
[23:17] <d1g1ta1> Ben64: But I also need the development tools to install it (c compiler, etc)
[23:18] <d1g1ta1> Ben64: and, again, it's just one of many programs
[23:18] <d1g1ta1> Ben64:   Let's take OpenOffice instead
[23:18] <Ben64> 20 * 3 = 60MB, if you have trouble freeing that much space, you have some more important problems
[23:18] <raldi> ActionParsnip: Succeeds in doing what?  I'm trying to change my screen resolution, and I've read that running that command is supposed to let me enable higher resolutions... but it doesn't.
[23:19] <d1g1ta1> Is it possible to do this?
[23:19] <MaxHR> ActionParsnip: it seems to only happen on reconk, and on muon package manager
[23:19] <MaxHR> firefox is ok
[23:19] <nuex> anyone know why, if i can touch a file in a parent directory with the same dir permissions as the current directory, why can't i touch a file in the current directory?
[23:19] <Ben64> d1g1ta1: possible... yes, but its much easier to just free a couple hundred megabytes
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> raldi: I seem to recall it setting up xorg.conf but I could be wrong
[23:20] <nuex> both directories have 2775 permissions and i am a member of the group assigned to both the current directory and the parent directory
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> MaxHR: interesting...
[23:20] <chachan> Ben64: owner, group?
[23:20] <chachan> Ben64: what's the error?
[23:21] <Ben64> chachan: ?
[23:21] <nuex> chachan: did you mean to ask me that?
[23:21] <joallard_> How do you diagnose graphical lag issues?
[23:21] <raldi> Ben64: What's the exact command you're typing, and what's the output?
[23:21] <chachan> Ben64: oops
[23:21] <chachan> nuex: yeap
[23:21] <d1g1ta1> Ben64:  is it that difficult to do?
[23:21] <raldi> oops, i meant that for nuex
[23:21] <Ben64> raldi: think you're thinking of someone else too
[23:22] <nuex> chachan: i get "Permission denied"
[23:22] <Ben64> d1g1ta1: its not supported and likely to break
[23:22] <raldi> nuex: what's the command you're typing?
[23:22] <chachan> nuex: what about the owner and the group, are they the same?. Are you using ACL?
[23:23] <nuex> raldi: hah! thanks! i was typing "touch tmp" and there was a directory there by name. "touch test" worked.
[23:23] <nuex> chachan: nevermind, fixed. was trying to touch a file that was the same name as a directory
[23:23] <chachan> nuex: np
[23:25] <joallard_> My display often lags, but my computer is quite recent. How do I find out why?
[23:25] <mellpatr> masters, exists any way to identify which file was transported by an ssh connection?
[23:25] <d1g1ta1> Ben64:  are you really seriously telling me that Linux cannot install and run programs on a removable drive without facing problems for anything other than those programs if the removable drive is not present?
[23:26] <SVNDR> how long does it genrally take to Create persistent files when installing ubuntu from USB?
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> joallard_: what video chip do you have?
[23:26] <joallard_> ActionParsnip: A Nvidia Quadro 1000M
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> joallard_: have you installed the nvidia proprietary driver?
[23:27] <joallard_> Yes
[23:27] <Ben64> d1g1ta1: ubuntu uses a package format for binaries, and expects them to be in certain places when installed
[23:27] <Ben64> if you compile your own binaries, you are free to do what you want
[23:28] <d1g1ta1> isn't that why I'm doing when I run make etc
[23:28] <d1g1ta1> why=what
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> joallard_: what version of the driver does nvidia-settings say you have
[23:28] <Ben64> d1g1ta1: so why don't you just install the package for openssh? it is 3MB.
[23:29] <joallard_> ActionParsnip: 280.13
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> joallard_: try adding the xorg edgers update ppa (less fresh) and you willl get the 295which may help
[23:29] <d1g1ta1> want to be able to keep it on a USB drive for one, and as I said, I lack the free space for all the programs and data needed.
[23:30] <Ben64> like I said, if you can't free 3MB you have bigger problems on hand
[23:30] <d1g1ta1> also want to be able to exchange the programs and data with others without giving them the computer
[23:30] <Ben64> that won't work
[23:30] <joallard_> ActionParsnip: Assuming it makes no difference, what would be the next step?
[23:30] <d1g1ta1> Ben64: it's not the 3MB, it's about 60GB that aren't available
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> joallard_: not sure, you could generate an xorg.conf file and add custom settings there
[23:30] <Ben64> openssh doesn't take 60GB
[23:31] <d1g1ta1> Ben64: even if I can't do that, can I at least install the programs and data just for use on this particular system.
[23:31] <MaxHR> so why would rekonq and muon have security cert problems, and firefox doesn't? and how can I fix it?
[23:31] <d1g1ta1> Ben64: exactly, I have about 20 programs to install, a few have very large local databases
[23:31] <joallard_> ActionParsnip: I'm not sure what kind of "custom settings" I could add
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> MaxHR: are there any bugs reported?
[23:32] <Ben64> flash drives are very slow, not a great place for large databases
[23:32] <d1g1ta1> MaxHR: install the certificates into the other browsers
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> joallard_: there are options you can find online. Not sure really. Is it ok in precise live CD?
[23:32] <d1g1ta1> Ben64:  not that kind of database
[23:32] <d1g1ta1> Ben64:  just a textbase, it's fine for what I need
[23:33] <joallard_> ActionParsnip: I don't have the Precise Live CD, but I did try the Natty, and video seemed much more smoother
[23:33] <Kiten> Ben64, you haven't experienced usb 3.0 then :P granted almost all flash drives nowadays only support 2.0 but at least you'll be getting every last bit of speed
[23:33] <d1g1ta1> Ben64:  so how do you go about compiling the source code to install on a USB drive?
[23:34] <Ben64> Kiten: the problem is the speed of the flash, not the bus
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> joallard_: good you tested it, try precise, may help. If you can stomach the slowness til precise is out then you can install the stable in April
[23:35] <Kiten> Ben64, it also depends on what type of database is being used and the data to be parsed
[23:35] <d1g1ta1> Kiten: for this application, speed is not an issue
[23:35] <Kiten> well then usb would be well suited ;p
[23:36] <d1g1ta1> Kiten: I just don't know how to get Linux to install apps onto a USB drive without forcing part of the OS onto it.
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> joallard_: could try a different DE
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> joallard_: install XFCE or KDE and see if it runs there
[23:36] <zer0rez> any thoughts on why i'd be getting a blinking cursor after ubuntu splash screen on an eeepc 900a(tried nomodeset and no change)
[23:36] <Kiten> d1g1ta1, install them the old fashion way ;p
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> zer0rez: try:  xforcevesa
[23:37] <d1g1ta1> hows that?
[23:37] <joallard_> ActionParsnip: well that's a bit farfetched. One could argue I install Windows and see if it runs there...
[23:37] <Kiten> compile and add to your path
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> joallard_: Thats an entirely different OS with different support. Installed a different DE is not nearly as drastic at all
[23:37] <MaxHR> d1g1ta1: how do I do that?  and how can I get Muon package manager to get them also?
[23:38] <zer0rez> ActionParsnip, where @ in grub?? (getting back into linux after years away)
[23:38] <d1g1ta1> Kiten:  how do you add the path?
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> joallard_: differnet DE will use a different WM which may make things smoother
[23:38] <d1g1ta1> MaxHR: I'm afraid I'm not familiar with the browsers you are using
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> zer0rez: same place you added nomodeset
[23:38] <joallard_> ActionParsnip: of course, I'm exaggerating. But still, I'm looking for a way to see what causes the problem
[23:38] <dyd___> i have ubuntu 11.10 with gnome, can i install lubuntu and leave gnome also?
[23:38] <zer0rez> ActionParsnip, thanks, trying now
[23:39] <Kiten> d1g1ta1, PATH=$PATH:/path/to/install
[23:39] <Kiten> d1g1ta1, http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/prepostpath.htm for more information
[23:39] <d1g1ta1> Kiten: where does that go?
[23:40] <Kiten> say i have binaries on /dev/sdb1 which is mounted at /media/usb and is in /bin
[23:40] <sewerurchin> Does anyone have a running install of Xen? Need to ask 1 question..
[23:40] <Kiten> PATH=$PATH:/media/usb/bin
[23:40] <zer0rez> ActionParsnip, no go :(
[23:41] <Kiten> d1g1ta1, you may also need to add the path to the libraries that you may need as well
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> zer0rez: tried the text installer?
[23:42] <d1g1ta1> sewerurchin: yes, but not under ubuntu
[23:42] <Kiten> d1g1ta1, what did you mean by where does that go?
[23:43] <d1g1ta1> so it's just a path variable for the shell, I don't need to change the source code at all?  It seems like that would tell Linux where to find the program after it's installed, but not where to install it.
[23:43] <zer0rez> ActionParsnip, this is off the text installer.
[23:44] <Kiten> d1g1ta1, when you add a dir to the path it makes that dir act like programs installed to /usr/bin
[23:44] <zer0rez> i'm fine in console, and if i boot into recovery and then continue boot it boots into text login
[23:44] <zer0rez> it's just annoying it doesn't do this by default
[23:44] <Kiten> ie instead of executing them like if you were in the dir ./someExE  you could just do someExE
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> zer0rez: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[23:44] <d1g1ta1> Kiten: is that going to change ALL programs or just the ones on the USB flash drive?
[23:45] <owenll> dyd___: not sure how old this is http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Installation (see 2.1)
[23:45] <zer0rez> i'll do it now hold on
[23:45] <dyd___> owenll, thanks
[23:45] <Kiten> d1g1ta1, doing PATH=$PATH:/some/path appends your path so that all your usual programs are left unharmed
[23:45] <d1g1ta1> right, but that doesn't tell linux to install the new programs somewhere different from the old ones
[23:46] <Kiten> d1g1ta1, just make sure it starts like this "PATH=$PATH:" note the colon
[23:46] <zer0rez> ActionParsnip, actually i DLed it via a torrent shouldn't that handled error checking?
[23:46] <Kiten> and the $ symbol
[23:46] <linux_is_my_hero> is there a support room for windows?  dare i ask, however my stupid gf hasnt switched to linux yet
[23:46] <SVNDR> Can someone please answer my question?? ive asked twice now and not getting an answer.. its pretty simple
[23:46] <kylesmith> I'm having trouble accessing my encrypted home directory from another computer.  ecryptfs-mount-private is supposed to prompt me for a password, but it returns me directly back to the console without printing any errors or any other information.  How can I get this to work?
[23:46] <Kiten> SVNDR you mind restating it for me ?
[23:47] <wizardyesterday> linux_is_my_hero, surprisingly, I just joined to a #windows channel
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> zer0rez: yeah should be ok, did you use a CD?
[23:47] <wizardyesterday> of course I closed the window
[23:47] <zer0rez> nope, usb drive via usb-creator-gtk
[23:47] <zer0rez> on a ubuntu 11.10 host
[23:47] <SVNDR> Kiten: sorry for sounding rude, but how long does it genrally take to Create persistent files when installing ubuntu from USB? ive been waiting for about an hour now
[23:47] <linux_is_my_hero> wizardyesterday: awesome :-)
[23:48] <zer0rez> ActionParsnip, sorry forgot to preface your nick, USB via usb-creator-gtk.
[23:48] <Kiten> SVNDR how much space did you allocate ?
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> zer0rez: very weird, could try unetbootin
[23:49] <SVNDR> Kiten: about 4GB which was the MAX i could..
[23:49] <Kiten> SVNDR so your making a persistent live usb ? also what is the size of the usb because if its 4gb you'll need to downsize your persistent file
[23:49] <zer0rez> ActionParsnip, but if there was an issue w/ the writing of the image wouldn't it not boot or wouldn't the restore setting in grub not boot either after the install?
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> zer0rez: not sure, just something to try really
[23:50] <zer0rez> ActionParsnip, yea fair enough.
[23:50] <SVNDR> Kiten: the size of the USB is 10GB, and yes, im using Universal USB Installer.. right now its creating persistent files
[23:51] <dyd___> in your hopinion, what's the fastest desktop available? the one that has the lowest graphical effects, with best performance?
[23:51] <SVNDR> Kiten: looks like you worked some magic.. it just popped up saying it is complete lol..
[23:51] <Kiten> SVNDR lol
[23:51] <SVNDR> Kiten: thanks for helping me pass the time anyways ;p
[23:51] <Kiten> SVNDR yeah it depends on if you are using usb 1.0 or usb 2.0 hubs because usb 1.0 is slower than hell ;p
[23:52] <SVNDR> Kiten: yea it was a 2.0.. thank god
[23:52] <SVNDR> Kiten: and all i kept reading was, please be patient.. im not a patient person haha
[23:52] <Kiten> also speed of your processor i know on my 733mhz it took roughly 2 hours because of the 1.0 ports
[23:53] <Kiten> SVNDR yeah you'd really hate having to compile really large projects from source then ;p
[23:53] <d1g1ta1> Kiten: how does linux know which path to use to install new programs?  if you overwrite the old path with the new one, the old programs won't run, right?
[23:53] <owenll> dyd___: you can try Xfce on Ubuntu http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xubuntu - choose it from the login screen - if you don't like it - choose gnome next time
[23:53] <SVNDR> Kiten: lets not even go there lol
[23:54] <escott> d1g1ta1, the path doesn't have much to do with installing. the path is where the system checks in order to run the program
[23:54] <Kiten> d1g1ta1, usually /usr/bin/ for packages and /usr/local for compiled packages
[23:54] <dyd___> owenll, thank you
[23:55] <Kiten> but the latter is not very true as of late most configure scripts assume /usr/bin and normal lib paths nowadays
[23:55] <Kiten> SVNDR yeah i know my netbook seems like oak ridge's mainframe compared to my 733
[23:56] <maheanuu_> I have developed a problem over the new year...   I can see my DVD/CD Drive but cannot get it to read or record anything commercial disks included/
[23:56] <Kiten> d1g1ta1, if your coming from windows think of /usr/bin like Program Files
[23:56] <Resistance> maheanuu_:  that sounds like things are broken...
[23:56] <SVNDR> Kiten: haha it would.. alright thanks again!
[23:56] <Kiten> and /usr/lib like C:\Windows
[23:57] <Kiten> SVNDR :P np though i didn't really help you that much
[23:57] <Kiten> just kinda distracted you haha
[23:57] <maheanuu_> Resistance, Happy new year and yes it does, how does one go about finding out what went wrong between bedtime last nite and this morning only one here was me and the puppy
[23:57] <Resistance> maheanuu_:  it could either be the hardware or the OS
[23:58] <Resistance> maheanuu_:  i'd start by checking via a livecd
[23:58] <Resistance> and see if your system can boot
[23:58] <SVNDR> Kiten: thats all i needed
[23:58] <Corey> maheanuu_: I'd blame the puppy.
[23:58] <Resistance> (if not a live CD, then the LiveCD image written to USB)
[23:58] <Kiten> SVNDR haha anytime
[23:58]  * Resistance blames the puppy too
[23:58] <maheanuu_> I agree I see the Drive in  places computer
[23:59] <maheanuu_> I tried that and he isn't cooperating a bit besides he sez he only understands Parau Tahiti (Tahitian)
[23:59] <Kiten> Toph2,  would i be correct in thinking that your nick is from something i've seen as a kid ?
[23:59] <amine> bonsoir et bonne anne 2012 a tout et a tous