| tatie | hello, i installed virtual midi keyboard however nothing happens when i press the keys. midi sound doesn't play. am i missing somehting here?+ | 18:48 |
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| holstein | tatie: yup... you'll need to route it to a sound | 18:49 |
| tatie | amarok is playing MP3, VLC i use for AudioCD, but midi i haven0t tried so far | 18:49 |
| tatie | ok how do i do that? | 18:49 |
| holstein | a lot of the stuff in ubuntustudio doesnt do anything... you need to know how to pair them up | 18:49 |
| tatie | i am using Kubuntu | 18:49 |
| holstein | the virtual keyboard is just that... a virtual keyboard | 18:49 |
| holstein | tatie: its all ubuntu | 18:49 |
| tatie | in windows it plays ok | 18:50 |
| holstein | the same repos | 18:50 |
| holstein | tatie: in windows, what plays ok? | 18:50 |
| tatie | the virtual keyboard | 18:50 |
| holstein | not the virtual keyboard from the ubuntu repositories | 18:50 |
| tatie | VMPK | 18:50 |
| holstein | nah | 18:50 |
| holstein | thats not the same application, AFAIK | 18:50 |
| tatie | well no obviously not bu tit's the same one. got it form sourceforge | 18:50 |
| holstein | anyways, you need to route it to a synth | 18:50 |
| holstein | you can use aconnectgui | 18:50 |
| holstein | you can use JACK | 18:50 |
| holstein | you can go into the applications and do it somehow as well, but i use JACK, which has its own learning curve | 18:51 |
| tatie | no i do not have an instruments. i wont' to mkae sounds with computer keyboard. i can do that in windows wiht this porgramme | 18:51 |
| holstein | tatie: right, this is *not* windows | 18:51 |
| holstein | the one in windows is a standalone application | 18:52 |
| tatie | http://vmpk.sourceforge.net/ | 18:52 |
| tatie | this is it. | 18:52 |
| holstein | with sounds and the controller all in one place | 18:52 |
| holstein | tatie: let me say... | 18:52 |
| holstein | i have used the virtual keyboard in linux | 18:52 |
| holstein | and it makes sound | 18:52 |
| holstein | if you would like to hear about how that works | 18:52 |
| holstein | its *not* the same as in windows | 18:53 |
| holstein | if you are looking for an all-in-one , standalone application that is its own controller and application, check out lmms | 18:53 |
| tatie | Ah so same porgramme with same source code wokrs in windows (plays sounds when you press a key) but not in linux after install? | 18:53 |
| holstein | i dont think lmms requires JACK | 18:53 |
| holstein | tatie: i dont know what is automatically happening in you particular windows installation midi-wise | 18:54 |
| holstein | the virtual keyboard isjust that | 18:54 |
| holstein | it makes no sound | 18:54 |
| holstein | it only controls sound modules | 18:54 |
| holstein | you might have something automatically routing the midi signal in windows for you | 18:54 |
| holstein | the way i do it... | 18:55 |
| holstein | i open jack, start it.. that is controlling my audio at that point, then i route whatever applications or hardware to whatever other applications or hardware (virtual or otherwise) | 18:55 |
| holstein | the way you might want to do it is to just install lmms, and try and make the virtual keyboard use some of the sounds im lmms | 18:56 |
| holstein | tatie: virtual keyboard makes no sound... its not a bug, its just not what it does | 18:56 |
| holstein | the most simple one i usually talk folks through is using JACK with a virtual or actual keyboard and zynaddxubfx (or the newer fork, yoshimi) | 18:58 |
| holstein | that is the way MIDI works... you have a controller and a synth, or tone generator, or sound module... MIDI brain is what they call it | 18:59 |
| holstein | when you see that in action on a hardware level, there is an actual midi cable plugged between the hardware | 18:59 |
| holstein | now, we can do that via USB, or just inside the box in routing hardware such as JACK, or aconnectgui | 19:00 |
| holstein | there are applications, and actuall hardware that are both controllers and sound modules, but these are usually lower end, more consumer grade gear | 19:01 |
| holstein | not very "garage-band" like | 19:01 |
| holstein | tatie: feel free and check with the some of the MIDI experts i hang with over in #opensourcemusicians | 19:03 |
| tatie | thanks this is too complicated | 19:03 |
| holstein | tatie: yup | 19:03 |
| holstein | tatie: lmms is not though | 19:03 |
| holstein | its all in one, and cross platform | 19:04 |
| holstein | very "garage-band" like | 19:04 |
| tatie | in windows i tried two keyboards and one i only untziupped while this one i extracted the exe file. when i press the buttons on computer keyboard it produces sounds. i can change the type of sound (for example drum, violing...just like with syntesizer).it doesn't require any programming, routing, additional setup nothing. i remember a short porgamme in BASIC on spectrum that did the same /similar thing albeit with limited soiunds it could | 19:06 |
| tatie | produce) | 19:06 |
| holstein | tatie: yes... lmms is like that | 19:06 |
| holstein | tatie: however, that is *not* just like a synthesizer | 19:06 |
| holstein | a synthesiser is just that | 19:06 |
| holstein | its synthesises sounds | 19:07 |
| holstein | the fact that we associate that with a keyboard, and an all-in-one unit is actually mis-use of that term | 19:07 |
| holstein | they call that a 'workstation' | 19:07 |
| holstein | an all in one | 19:07 |
| tatie | i am looking at lmms it porduces no sound | 19:07 |
| holstein | a synthesiser (hardware or otherwise) has no controller necessarily, though it can | 19:08 |
| tatie | though the lights blink when i click on keyboard | 19:08 |
| holstein | tatie: you might need to check the routing | 19:08 |
| holstein | i find the addition of the pavucontrol package helpful when troubleshooting pulse audio sound | 19:10 |
| tatie | Qsynth1: Failed to create the audio driver (jack). | 19:16 |
| tatie | 0:16:36.299 JACK is starting... | 19:17 |
| tatie | 20:16:36.299 /usr/bin/jackd -dalsa -dhw:0 -r44100 -p1024 -n2 | 19:17 |
| tatie | 20:16:36.307 Could not start JACK. Sorry. | 19:17 |
| tatie | 20:16:44.693 JACK was stopped with exit status=255. | 19:17 |
| tatie | 20:16:44.694 Post-shutdown script... | 19:17 |
| tatie | 20:16:44.694 killall jackd | 19:17 |
| tatie | jackd: no process found | 19:17 |
| holstein | tatie: yeah, i would like for you to avoid JACK use if you can | 19:19 |
| holstein | its not trivial, and quite overkill for what you are doing | 19:19 |
| holstein | http://lmms.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Troubleshooting | 19:20 |
| holstein | i would look at the routing... | 19:20 |
| holstein | i know i keep saying that, but at some point, you have to look at thw routing, of configuration... whatever you want to call it | 19:20 |
| holstein | you need to see that the audio device/driver, whatever you want to call that, inside of LMMS, is set to alsa, or pulse, not JACK | 19:21 |
| holstein | then, you should have no issues with JACK then | 19:21 |
| holstein | you can also look and see about the MIDI routing... make sure that an instrument is selected | 19:21 |
| holstein | if you see a light in LMMS, you could be triggering the controller, and have not selected a sound yet | 19:22 |
| holstein | tatie: qsynth works with JACK | 19:22 |
| tatie | lmms works now. | 19:22 |
| holstein | tatie: qsything is *not* trivial | 19:22 |
| tatie | but it crashes often | 19:24 |
| holstein | are you one 10.04? | 19:24 |
| tatie | eh i give up. time for dinner anyway. thanks for the help. i will look into documentations a bit more see if i can figure it out | 19:24 |
| tatie | 10.10 | 19:24 |
| holstein | you could look for a PPA | 19:25 |
| tatie | will try | 19:25 |
| holstein | anyways, the dev hangs in #opensourcemusicians sometimes | 19:25 |
| tatie | thanks again. bye, | 19:25 |
| holstein | sure | 19:25 |
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