[18:48] hello, i installed virtual midi keyboard however nothing happens when i press the keys. midi sound doesn't play. am i missing somehting here?+ [18:49] tatie: yup... you'll need to route it to a sound [18:49] amarok is playing MP3, VLC i use for AudioCD, but midi i haven0t tried so far [18:49] ok how do i do that? [18:49] a lot of the stuff in ubuntustudio doesnt do anything... you need to know how to pair them up [18:49] i am using Kubuntu [18:49] the virtual keyboard is just that... a virtual keyboard [18:49] tatie: its all ubuntu [18:50] in windows it plays ok [18:50] the same repos [18:50] tatie: in windows, what plays ok? [18:50] the virtual keyboard [18:50] not the virtual keyboard from the ubuntu repositories [18:50] VMPK [18:50] nah [18:50] thats not the same application, AFAIK [18:50] well no obviously not bu tit's the same one. got it form sourceforge [18:50] anyways, you need to route it to a synth [18:50] you can use aconnectgui [18:50] you can use JACK [18:51] you can go into the applications and do it somehow as well, but i use JACK, which has its own learning curve [18:51] no i do not have an instruments. i wont' to mkae sounds with computer keyboard. i can do that in windows wiht this porgramme [18:51] tatie: right, this is *not* windows [18:52] the one in windows is a standalone application [18:52] http://vmpk.sourceforge.net/ [18:52] this is it. [18:52] with sounds and the controller all in one place [18:52] tatie: let me say... [18:52] i have used the virtual keyboard in linux [18:52] and it makes sound [18:52] if you would like to hear about how that works [18:53] its *not* the same as in windows [18:53] if you are looking for an all-in-one , standalone application that is its own controller and application, check out lmms [18:53] Ah so same porgramme with same source code wokrs in windows (plays sounds when you press a key) but not in linux after install? [18:53] i dont think lmms requires JACK [18:54] tatie: i dont know what is automatically happening in you particular windows installation midi-wise [18:54] the virtual keyboard isjust that [18:54] it makes no sound [18:54] it only controls sound modules [18:54] you might have something automatically routing the midi signal in windows for you [18:55] the way i do it... [18:55] i open jack, start it.. that is controlling my audio at that point, then i route whatever applications or hardware to whatever other applications or hardware (virtual or otherwise) [18:56] the way you might want to do it is to just install lmms, and try and make the virtual keyboard use some of the sounds im lmms [18:56] tatie: virtual keyboard makes no sound... its not a bug, its just not what it does [18:58] the most simple one i usually talk folks through is using JACK with a virtual or actual keyboard and zynaddxubfx (or the newer fork, yoshimi) [18:59] that is the way MIDI works... you have a controller and a synth, or tone generator, or sound module... MIDI brain is what they call it [18:59] when you see that in action on a hardware level, there is an actual midi cable plugged between the hardware [19:00] now, we can do that via USB, or just inside the box in routing hardware such as JACK, or aconnectgui [19:01] there are applications, and actuall hardware that are both controllers and sound modules, but these are usually lower end, more consumer grade gear [19:01] not very "garage-band" like [19:03] tatie: feel free and check with the some of the MIDI experts i hang with over in #opensourcemusicians [19:03] thanks this is too complicated [19:03] tatie: yup [19:03] tatie: lmms is not though [19:04] its all in one, and cross platform [19:04] very "garage-band" like [19:06] in windows i tried two keyboards and one i only untziupped while this one i extracted the exe file. when i press the buttons on computer keyboard it produces sounds. i can change the type of sound (for example drum, violing...just like with syntesizer).it doesn't require any programming, routing, additional setup nothing. i remember a short porgamme in BASIC on spectrum that did the same /similar thing albeit with limited soiunds it could [19:06] produce) [19:06] tatie: yes... lmms is like that [19:06] tatie: however, that is *not* just like a synthesizer [19:06] a synthesiser is just that [19:07] its synthesises sounds [19:07] the fact that we associate that with a keyboard, and an all-in-one unit is actually mis-use of that term [19:07] they call that a 'workstation' [19:07] an all in one [19:07] i am looking at lmms it porduces no sound [19:08] a synthesiser (hardware or otherwise) has no controller necessarily, though it can [19:08] though the lights blink when i click on keyboard [19:08] tatie: you might need to check the routing [19:10] i find the addition of the pavucontrol package helpful when troubleshooting pulse audio sound [19:16] Qsynth1: Failed to create the audio driver (jack). [19:17] 0:16:36.299 JACK is starting... [19:17] 20:16:36.299 /usr/bin/jackd -dalsa -dhw:0 -r44100 -p1024 -n2 [19:17] 20:16:36.307 Could not start JACK. Sorry. [19:17] 20:16:44.693 JACK was stopped with exit status=255. [19:17] 20:16:44.694 Post-shutdown script... [19:17] 20:16:44.694 killall jackd [19:17] jackd: no process found [19:19] tatie: yeah, i would like for you to avoid JACK use if you can [19:19] its not trivial, and quite overkill for what you are doing [19:20] http://lmms.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Troubleshooting [19:20] i would look at the routing... [19:20] i know i keep saying that, but at some point, you have to look at thw routing, of configuration... whatever you want to call it [19:21] you need to see that the audio device/driver, whatever you want to call that, inside of LMMS, is set to alsa, or pulse, not JACK [19:21] then, you should have no issues with JACK then [19:21] you can also look and see about the MIDI routing... make sure that an instrument is selected [19:22] if you see a light in LMMS, you could be triggering the controller, and have not selected a sound yet [19:22] tatie: qsynth works with JACK [19:22] lmms works now. [19:22] tatie: qsything is *not* trivial [19:24] but it crashes often [19:24] are you one 10.04? [19:24] eh i give up. time for dinner anyway. thanks for the help. i will look into documentations a bit more see if i can figure it out [19:24] 10.10 [19:25] you could look for a PPA [19:25] will try [19:25] anyways, the dev hangs in #opensourcemusicians sometimes [19:25] thanks again. bye, [19:25] sure === marmalade is now known as macrocat