[00:47] can you double click to maximie windows on xubuntu? [00:48] macman_: yeah [00:49] its not default tho is it? [00:49] thats one thing thats annoys me with osx [00:55] how do you edit menu entries in xubuntu? I know how to do it in gnome with alacart, is there an equivalent in xubuntu? [01:16] how do I install avr-gcc? I cant seem to find it in the repos.. is it in "buildessential" ? [01:16] if you're building stuff, you need build-essential anyway. [01:16] that's what the package name is for [01:17] well all I need is avr-gcc really.. but I found it [01:17] for some reason its in the repos as gcc-avr which is odd saying as tho the binary is avr-gcc [01:17] nevermind [01:18] makes sense to "file it under" gcc in a repository... [01:24] yeah your right now that I think about it [03:06] hey guys [03:06] can someone tellme whats wrong here? [03:06] http://piratepad.net/ep/pad/view/ro.WRPyvpFOCYv/latest [04:40] <|multipass|> how do i add new panels [04:43] Settings Manager > Panel > Select the '+' symbol next to the Panel selection drop down [04:46] <|multipass|> ah cool [04:46] <|multipass|> ty [04:46] np [04:59] can someone tell me how to disable the password-on-resume-from-suspend "feature" (11.10)? [04:59] hmm, i recall seeing that somewhere... maybe screensaver setting? [04:59] Already tried changing that. [05:01] Hello [05:02] I've googled up and down, tried just about everything that should do the trick, but so far it remains stuck. [05:02] Am back, and in the us! [05:02] :D [05:02] I have a little question [05:03] I've been wanting to put KDE Plasma Active on a tablet [05:03] I want something compatible (preferably multitouch), around $100-$200, and availible in the us [05:03] VanessaE: Even Settings Manager > Power Manager > Extended > Lock Screen.... and rebooting? [05:03] Anyone knowledgable? [05:04] Unit193: been there. :) [05:04] that option's been unchecked for several reboots now [05:04] Anything weird about your setup? [05:04] (I regularly shut down at night since this broke) [05:04] Oops didnt mean to butt in sorry D: [05:04] nope, everything was fine in the previous install [05:05] (debian Squeeze) [05:05] Are you using Debian+Xfce? [05:06] at the time, yes. Since reformatted and moved to Xubuntu 11.10. [05:06] xfce in both cases. [05:10] and it is xubuntu that is showing the problem [05:10] suspend/resume works fine, mind you (at least on this box). It just won't stop asking me for my password when it comes back up. [05:11] Since this is a desktop machine in a trusted environment, boot/resume passwords are kinda..overkill :-) [05:13] Yeah, I just tried turning it off here for kicks [05:18] <|multipass|> is there a hotkey for terminal setup? [05:18] <|multipass|> like i think gnome did ctrl alt t [05:19] not in xfce; I set mine to use Win-F1 for that [05:19] I use C+A+t [05:19] |multipass|: by default, no. you can set one in settings -> manager -> keyboard [05:20] i used to use f12 [05:20] but switched to c-a-t some time ago heh [05:20] <|multipass|> ah cool t [05:20] <|multipass|> y [05:20] default xfce terminal is "xfce4-terminal", fyi. but you can set any preferred terminal emulator [05:22] <|multipass|> cool [05:22] <|multipass|> wow these panels are pretty awesome [05:22] <|multipass|> i had docky instlaled, then just made one out of panels [05:22] <|multipass|> instead [05:22] heh yea, just a bunch of launchers on a panel. [05:23] <|multipass|> some window buttons, etc yeah lol [05:23] Unit193: care to see a screenshot of my desktop now that i've customized it to my liking? ;) [05:23] Aye [05:24] http://imgur.com/Rw1fa [05:26] I would show you my awesome desktop [05:26] But im on another computer [05:26] :( [05:26] <|multipass|> nice [05:27] nanotube: That's more customized, like the default wallpaper? [05:27] yep, i'm a fan of the default wp :) nice and calm and blueish :) [05:28] Mine changes [05:28] Changes a lot [05:28] Currently its a bosozuko hiace [05:28] With a fanceh clean dock [05:30] <|multipass|> anyone use kvirc? [05:30] nope, xchat here [05:31] <|multipass|> trying to get links to open, run firefox $0 not working [05:32] Tried right clicking? [05:33] <|multipass|> yeah just option to copy to clipboard [05:33] * nanotube chants "just use xchat" :) [05:33] Yep olol [05:34] I'm actually on http://webchat.freenode.net/ [05:34] <|multipass|> kvirc is so nice tho lol [05:34] <|multipass|> i do like xchat [05:34] <|multipass|> and i have all my settings up [05:39] Anyone know anything about KDE on tablets? [05:56] <|multipass|> no, but sounds like a lot of work [05:57] <|multipass|> oO === m00se is now known as derpina === derpina is now known as m00se [06:17] <|multipass|> anyone reccomend some programming fonts? [06:19] whatever is the emacs default... :) [10:50] good morning [10:50] can someone help me? [10:51] i'm trying to build this audio card driver [10:51] but I think I need to do something with the linux-headers? [10:51] i'm not sure what... [10:52] hmmm [10:52] I installed a r-t kernel [10:52] 2.6.33-29-realtime [10:57] someone? [10:57] pls? [10:57] this is important [10:57] what is "this audio driver" ? [11:02] * Marzata is sleeping still. [11:02] vanlong441, it's a driver for my audio card [11:02] http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-a-line6-guitarport-or-toneport-ux1-or-gx.html [11:03] let me check the link [11:03] when I "make" it outputs [11:03] f-t@f-t-laptop:~/Desktop/line6linux/driver/trunk$ make [11:03] ./set_revision.sh [11:03] test: 18: https://line6linux.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/line6linux/driver/trunk: unexpected operator [11:03] make -C /lib/modules/2.6.33-29-realtime/build CONFIG_LINE6_USB=m SUBDIRS=/home/f-t/Desktop/line6linux/driver/trunk modules [11:03] make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.33-29-realtime' [11:03] CC [M] /home/f-t/Desktop/line6linux/driver/trunk/audio.o [11:03] CC [M] /home/f-t/Desktop/line6linux/driver/trunk/capture.o [11:03] CC [M] /home/f-t/Desktop/line6linux/driver/trunk/control.o [11:03] CC [M] /home/f-t/Desktop/line6linux/driver/trunk/driver.o [11:03] CC [M] /home/f-t/Desktop/line6linux/driver/trunk/dumprequest.o [11:03] CC [M] /home/f-t/Desktop/line6linux/driver/trunk/midi.o [11:03] /home/f-t/Desktop/line6linux/driver/trunk/midi.c: In function ‘midi_set_midi_mask_transmit’: [11:03] /home/f-t/Desktop/line6linux/driver/trunk/midi.c:314: error: implicit declaration of function ‘kstrtou16’ [11:04] make[2]: *** [/home/f-t/Desktop/line6linux/driver/trunk/midi.o] Error 1 [11:04] make[1]: *** [_module_/home/f-t/Desktop/line6linux/driver/trunk] Error 2 [11:04] make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.33-29-realtime' [11:04] make: *** [default] Error 2 [11:04] f-t@f-t-laptop:~/Desktop/line6linux/driver/trunk$ [11:04] focalt, I pm-ed you [11:07] got configured it? [12:52] hi all! does anybody here use xubuntu on an oqo 02 ? [12:53] if so, could you share some pitfalls you've had? [13:01] this thing has a hdd? [13:11] any way to get xfburn to just make an iso of a disc? [13:11] seems a very limited app.. [13:12] using k3b as I need a more capable burner app but that's spoiled my 'clean' system a little :) [13:13] there are CLI apps.. [13:13] yeah, this aint for me really though...cli is out of the question. [13:20] think i'll give em brasero.. [14:54] hi all [14:56] can smb help me to fix one problem? when I load xubuntu - appears menu asking me to choose between xubuntu and xfce session. is it possible to skip this menu? [15:00] somov: every time? [15:04] hello everyone [15:04] edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and add autologin-user=youruse [15:07] he left [15:07] again! [15:08] he asked it in #ubuntu, I answered, he'd already left [15:20] is here someone who tried installing xfce on ubuntu 11.10 because it got very slow after upgrading from 11.04? (I am just wondering whether it solves the problem) [16:09] I have a grub question; I hosed my system tying to modify my boot menu. I have an efi motherboard so should I be using grub-efi-amd64 instead of grub? [16:10] My install has grub-common installed as default === Piegirl is now known as Paimun [16:44] Hi all ... is xubuntu rdy for LTSP ? [16:49] Lutheran Theological Seminary at Philadelphia? [17:19] Hi I've ran may distros of linux in the past but since installing xubuntu my internet speed has seemed very slow. I was wondering if I could turn off the auto updates feature as I prefer to use apt-get for that anyway and maybe that would help the internet speed slightly as well [17:22] becker_11, some people gain speed by disabling ivp6 if you don't need it [17:22] okay I didn't realise it was on [17:22] w30, how would I disable it? [17:24] becker_11, it don't hurt mine though; edit your connection in network connections [17:25] becker_11, maybe set ipv6 settings to ignore [17:25] w30, yeah just done that. When I used Debian it was off by default. [17:25] w30, Do you have any idea regarding the auto software update?? [17:25] becker_11, I haven't done it but you can always change it back [17:26] w30, shouldn't need to as I've never used it previously [17:27] becker_11, I haven't messed with auto update..... [17:27] w30, no worries thanks for the other tip though [17:55] w30: hey, btw, you weren't here at the time, but i ran compiz --replace and had no issues with window decorations. so i guess the plain ubuntu has some packages in it that makes everything peachy. [17:56] nanotube: it has metacity [17:56] nanotube, ok, thats good news [17:56] TheSheep: hm, could be. seems that people running pure xubuntu though, have to go through some contortions to get decorations working [17:56] apparently none of them have clued into installing the metacity package to try to fix it? [17:57] that's because metacity is a part of the eternal evil called gnome [17:57] nanotube, what's the metacity package name? [17:58] w30: at a guess, 'metacity' :) [17:58] !info metacity [17:58] metacity (source: metacity): lightweight GTK+ window manager. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.34.1-1ubuntu4 (oneiric), package size 272 kB, installed size 896 kB [17:58] lightweight, haha [17:58] * w30 wants no gnome anything since it became gnome3 [17:59] well, metacity itself is not bad at all. [17:59] it's the rest of the gnome crap that pulls weight [17:59] lightweight compared to Windows 7, MACOSX, KDE, eh? [18:00] heh [18:03] I'm not sure if I had metacity or if gtk-window-decorator from compiz-gnome was enough [18:04] metacity has to be lightweight, why would they use something so awful otherwise [18:06] are there decorator(s), besides compiz and kwin that can raise window when alt-tabbing? [18:07] is fluxbox lighter than xfce? [18:10] well, it's just about a windowmanager so yes [18:10] lxde should have a bit smaller ram footprint too [18:12] lxde lacks usability and aesthetics [18:14] I guess it would have everything I need, but I have resources to run xfce [18:16] Marzata, that's the thing, isn't it? if you have more features, you will use more memory [18:16] knome: no more than xfce :> [18:18] i cannot use the mouse while holding ALT to resize and move windows. [18:18] also selecting text stops alt-tab from working and the cursor stays with its text selecting shape [18:18] (the big I) [18:19] i can temporary fix this by starting a shell (global shortcuts still seem to work) and launching xfwm4 --replace [18:21] toggling the compositor option does not help [18:26] pimperle: when it breakes again after running xfwm4 --replace? [18:26] when selecting text [18:27] now i ran aptitude safe-upgrade again (did i yesterday i think) [18:27] and the problem seems to be gone [18:27] without restarting anything (xfwm4 --replace of course) [18:28] http://pastie.org/3113733 [18:28] that's a list of packages which were upgraded [18:28] if you are using compiz you need to check some of the window management boxes to get move resize etc. to work like they dis with xfce or gonme, whatever. [18:28] dis/did [18:30] i'm not using compiz [18:31] pimperle, sorry, I am not following close enough [18:32] never mind, the upgrade seems to have fixed it for now [18:32] * w30 slaps himself [18:32] i'll come back, should it occur again [18:37] hey, i'm trying to install xubuntu and X11 turns out to be messed up. i need to reconfigure it with a special modeline, but i cant find any Xorg.conf or whatever other file in /etc/X11 [18:38] where does one go and specify video drivers, video modes and the like in xubuntu? [18:38] you need to create it with Xorg -configure when not running X11 [18:39] so, kill the installer, run Xorg -configure, and relaunch xinit ? [18:39] lets do that. [18:42] Sysi: every time i kill the X process it springs back to life. [18:43] doing it while installing sounds like a bad idea anyway [18:43] well i cant see the installer without fixing X... [18:43] is there not a text mode? [18:44] install ubuntu server first [18:44] then add the desktop you need [18:44] Marzata: it's better to use alternate installer [18:44] that one too [18:44] ouch. i cant re-download a 800 meg iso [18:45] am on low bandwidth [18:45] what alternate installer? [18:45] that's the text installer [18:45] \disk with it [18:46] you can try booting with xforcevesa option if driver picked by default doesn't work [18:46] so.. i just rebooted my device. i got the nice framebuffer greeter with the "try xubuntu before installiung" menuy thing [18:46] i was hoping to find a text installer there, but theres no trace of it [18:46] xforcevesa .. mmm [18:47] that might be worth a shot. [18:47] dleonardi: theres an alternate installer disc, seperate download [18:47] aw snap. [18:47] if you cant get to the desktop live, you usually have some issue with hardware though [18:47] trying the vesa driver is a great place to start [18:48] well ubuntu 8.10 works with the vesa driver and a special modeline [18:48] ubuntu server and lynx - do you need more? [18:48] i'm expecting it to be the same here [18:48] Marzata: and emacs. fuck ya . [18:48] :D [18:48] dleonardi: i would expect the same thing, if not less support on older hardware like that [18:48] emacs sucks, correct. [18:48] i want sublime editor! :D [18:49] vim? === jubo2_ is now known as kunsole === jubo2 is now known as Guest68324 [19:05] so.. xforcevesa did the trick. my mouse was totally messed up but god thanks there is the tab key. installing, and will find out soon enough what's what. [19:06] if anybody here owns and runs xubuntu on an oqo 02 i'd appreciate any tips. :D === xGrind is now known as xGrindoff [20:20] Hi, I need help with the Panel 2 customization. [20:21] I'm new to Linux, and when the setup ended I was thrilled, but when I logged in I made a mistake and choose xfce instead of xubuntu and now when I'm back in xubuntu the panel 2 won't be transparent. [21:06] i know this has probably been asked a million times, but i could not find a direct answer. is xubuntu exactly the same as ubuntu, in terms of service configuration, app versions numbers, etc. except it uses Xfce instead of gnome as it's default DE? [21:07] apps are same, init services should be the same [21:08] ok, thanks. can't stand gnome3, but like xfce, so i wanted to use xubuntu. i was not sure if it was the kind of relation mint is to linux. [21:08] mint is not *buntu [21:10] mint is derived from ubuntu, so i did not know if xubuntu was derived from ubuntu, or was ubuntu with a different DE (which is what i was hoping for) [21:12] xubuntu is official derivative, uses same repositories [21:13] !flavors [21:13] !Kubuntu and !Xubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with KDE and Xfce (respectively) installed as default, instead of GNOME. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, and !Mythbuntu === Pieman is now known as Paimun === Guest68324 is now known as jubo2 [22:21] how do I put a panel on the right side of the screen? All I have to choose from are "horizontal" and "vertical". [22:21] I'm trying to move the "dock" panel to the right side of the screen [22:21] unlock and drag from handles [22:23] ah, thank you === xGrindoff is now known as xGrind === Pieman is now known as Paimun [23:19] how can I make the XFCE "Window Buttons" panel feature not run off the side of the panel? [23:56] taiyal: what do you mean run off the side? [23:58] multipass|2: when I open too many windows, the "window buttons" component keeps growing past the limit of the panel, pushing everything after itself off the panel [23:58] auto expand [23:58] on the actual panel [23:58] below length [23:58] i think thats what you want [23:59] that's not helping