[00:47] <macman_> can you double click to maximie windows on xubuntu?
[00:48] <Marzatta> macman_: yeah
[00:49] <macman_> its not default tho is it?
[00:49] <macman_> thats one thing thats annoys me with osx
[00:55] <jjgalvez__> how do you edit menu entries in xubuntu? I know how to do it in gnome with alacart, is there an equivalent in xubuntu?
[01:16] <Kingsy> how do I install avr-gcc? I cant seem to find it in the repos.. is it in "buildessential" ?
[01:16] <knome> if you're building stuff, you need build-essential anyway.
[01:16] <knome> that's what the package name is for
[01:17] <Kingsy> well all I need is avr-gcc really.. but I found it
[01:17] <Kingsy> for some reason its in the repos as gcc-avr which is odd saying as tho the binary is avr-gcc
[01:17] <Kingsy> nevermind
[01:18] <knome> makes sense to "file it under" gcc in a repository...
[01:24] <Kingsy> yeah your right now that I think about it
[03:06] <focalt> hey guys
[03:06] <focalt> can someone tellme whats wrong here?
[03:06] <focalt> http://piratepad.net/ep/pad/view/ro.WRPyvpFOCYv/latest
[04:40] <|multipass|> how do i add new panels
[04:43] <quicklogic> Settings Manager > Panel > Select the '+' symbol next to the Panel selection drop down
[04:46] <|multipass|> ah cool
[04:46] <|multipass|> ty
[04:46] <quicklogic> np
[04:59] <VanessaE> can someone tell me how to disable the password-on-resume-from-suspend "feature" (11.10)?
[04:59] <nanotube> hmm, i recall seeing that somewhere... maybe screensaver setting?
[04:59] <VanessaE> Already tried changing that.
[05:01] <fennec> Hello
[05:02] <VanessaE> I've googled up and down, tried just about everything that should do the trick, but so far it remains stuck.
[05:02] <fennec> Am back, and in the us!
[05:02] <fennec> :D
[05:02] <fennec> I have a little question
[05:03] <fennec> I've been wanting to put KDE Plasma Active on a tablet
[05:03] <fennec> I want something compatible (preferably multitouch), around $100-$200, and availible in the us
[05:03] <Unit193> VanessaE: Even Settings Manager > Power Manager > Extended > Lock Screen.... and rebooting?
[05:03] <fennec> Anyone knowledgable?
[05:04] <VanessaE> Unit193: been there. :)
[05:04] <VanessaE> that option's been unchecked for several reboots now
[05:04] <Unit193> Anything weird about your setup?
[05:04] <VanessaE> (I regularly shut down at night since this broke)
[05:04] <fennec> Oops didnt mean to butt in sorry D:
[05:04] <VanessaE> nope, everything was fine in the previous install
[05:05] <VanessaE> (debian Squeeze)
[05:05] <Unit193> Are you using Debian+Xfce?
[05:06] <VanessaE> at the time, yes.  Since reformatted and moved to Xubuntu 11.10.
[05:06] <VanessaE> xfce in both cases.
[05:10] <VanessaE> and it is xubuntu that is showing the problem
[05:10] <VanessaE> suspend/resume works fine, mind you (at least on this box).  It just won't stop asking me for my password when it comes back up.
[05:11] <VanessaE> Since this is a desktop machine in a trusted environment, boot/resume passwords are kinda..overkill :-)
[05:13] <Unit193> Yeah, I just tried turning it off here for kicks
[05:18] <|multipass|> is there a hotkey for terminal setup?
[05:18] <|multipass|> like i think gnome did ctrl alt t
[05:19] <VanessaE> not in xfce; I set mine to use Win-F1 for that
[05:19] <Unit193> I use C+A+t
[05:19] <nanotube> |multipass|: by default, no. you can set one in settings -> manager -> keyboard
[05:20] <nanotube> i used to use f12
[05:20] <nanotube> but switched to c-a-t some time ago heh
[05:20] <|multipass|> ah cool t
[05:20] <|multipass|> y
[05:20] <nanotube> default xfce terminal is "xfce4-terminal", fyi. but you can set any preferred terminal emulator
[05:22] <|multipass|> cool
[05:22] <|multipass|> wow these panels are pretty awesome
[05:22] <|multipass|> i had docky instlaled, then just made one out of panels
[05:22] <|multipass|> instead
[05:22] <nanotube> heh yea, just a bunch of launchers on a panel.
[05:23] <|multipass|> some window buttons, etc yeah lol
[05:23] <nanotube> Unit193: care to see a screenshot of my desktop now that i've customized it to my liking? ;)
[05:23] <Unit193> Aye
[05:24] <nanotube> http://imgur.com/Rw1fa
[05:26] <fennec> I would show you my awesome desktop
[05:26] <fennec> But im on another computer
[05:26] <fennec> :(
[05:26] <|multipass|> nice
[05:27] <Unit193> nanotube: That's more customized, like the default wallpaper?
[05:27] <nanotube> yep, i'm a fan of the default wp :) nice and calm and blueish :)
[05:28] <fennec> Mine changes
[05:28] <fennec> Changes a lot
[05:28] <fennec> Currently its a bosozuko hiace
[05:28] <fennec> With a fanceh clean dock
[05:30] <|multipass|> anyone use kvirc?
[05:30] <nanotube> nope, xchat here
[05:31] <|multipass|> trying to get links to open, run firefox $0 not working
[05:32] <fennec> Tried right clicking?
[05:33] <|multipass|> yeah just option to copy to clipboard
[05:33]  * nanotube chants "just use xchat" :)
[05:33] <fennec> Yep olol
[05:34] <fennec> I'm actually on http://webchat.freenode.net/
[05:34] <|multipass|> kvirc is so nice tho lol
[05:34] <|multipass|> i do like xchat
[05:34] <|multipass|> and i have all my settings up
[05:39] <fennec> Anyone know anything about KDE on tablets?
[05:56] <|multipass|> no, but sounds like a lot of work
[05:57] <|multipass|> oO
[06:17] <|multipass|> anyone reccomend some programming fonts?
[06:19] <nanotube> whatever is the emacs default... :)
[10:50] <focalt> good morning
[10:50] <focalt> can someone help me?
[10:51] <focalt> i'm trying to build this audio card driver
[10:51] <focalt> but I think I need to do something with the linux-headers?
[10:51] <focalt> i'm not sure what...
[10:52] <Marzata> hmmm
[10:52] <focalt> I installed a r-t kernel
[10:52] <focalt> 2.6.33-29-realtime
[10:57] <focalt> someone?
[10:57] <focalt> pls?
[10:57] <focalt> this is important
[10:57] <vanlong441> what is "this audio driver" ?
[11:02]  * Marzata is sleeping still. 
[11:02] <focalt> vanlong441,  it's a driver for my audio card
[11:02] <focalt> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-a-line6-guitarport-or-toneport-ux1-or-gx.html
[11:03] <vanlong441> let me check the link
[11:03] <focalt> when I "make" it outputs
[11:03] <focalt> f-t@f-t-laptop:~/Desktop/line6linux/driver/trunk$ make
[11:03] <focalt> ./set_revision.sh
[11:03] <focalt> test: 18: https://line6linux.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/line6linux/driver/trunk: unexpected operator
[11:03] <focalt> make -C /lib/modules/2.6.33-29-realtime/build CONFIG_LINE6_USB=m SUBDIRS=/home/f-t/Desktop/line6linux/driver/trunk modules
[11:03] <focalt> make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.33-29-realtime'
[11:03] <focalt>   CC [M]  /home/f-t/Desktop/line6linux/driver/trunk/audio.o
[11:03] <focalt>   CC [M]  /home/f-t/Desktop/line6linux/driver/trunk/capture.o
[11:03] <focalt>   CC [M]  /home/f-t/Desktop/line6linux/driver/trunk/control.o
[11:03] <focalt>   CC [M]  /home/f-t/Desktop/line6linux/driver/trunk/driver.o
[11:03] <focalt>   CC [M]  /home/f-t/Desktop/line6linux/driver/trunk/dumprequest.o
[11:03] <focalt>   CC [M]  /home/f-t/Desktop/line6linux/driver/trunk/midi.o
[11:03] <focalt> /home/f-t/Desktop/line6linux/driver/trunk/midi.c: In function ‘midi_set_midi_mask_transmit’:
[11:03] <focalt> /home/f-t/Desktop/line6linux/driver/trunk/midi.c:314: error: implicit declaration of function ‘kstrtou16’
[11:04] <focalt> make[2]: *** [/home/f-t/Desktop/line6linux/driver/trunk/midi.o] Error 1
[11:04] <focalt> make[1]: *** [_module_/home/f-t/Desktop/line6linux/driver/trunk] Error 2
[11:04] <focalt> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.33-29-realtime'
[11:04] <focalt> make: *** [default] Error 2
[11:04] <focalt> f-t@f-t-laptop:~/Desktop/line6linux/driver/trunk$
[11:04] <vanlong441> focalt, I pm-ed you
[11:07] <Marzata> got configured it?
[12:52] <dleonardi> hi all! does anybody here use xubuntu on an oqo 02 ?
[12:53] <dleonardi> if so, could you share some pitfalls you've had?
[13:01] <Marzata> this thing has a hdd?
[13:11] <mongy> any way to get xfburn to just make an iso of a disc?
[13:11] <mongy> seems a very limited app..
[13:12] <mongy> using k3b as I need a more capable burner app but that's spoiled my 'clean' system a little :)
[13:13] <Sysi> there are CLI apps..
[13:13] <mongy> yeah, this aint for me really though...cli is out of the question.
[13:20] <mongy> think i'll give em brasero..
[14:54] <somov> hi all
[14:56] <somov> can smb help me to fix one problem? when I load xubuntu - appears menu asking me to choose between xubuntu and xfce session. is it possible to skip this menu?
[15:00] <Sysi> somov: every time?
[15:04] <Ritchie_Z> hello everyone
[15:04] <mongy> edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and add autologin-user=youruse
[15:07] <Sysi> he left
[15:07] <mongy> again!
[15:08] <mongy> he asked it in #ubuntu, I answered, he'd already left
[15:20] <Ritchie_Z> is here someone who tried installing xfce on ubuntu 11.10 because it got very slow after upgrading from 11.04? (I am just wondering whether it solves the problem)
[16:09] <w30> I have a grub question; I hosed my system tying to modify my boot menu. I have an efi motherboard so should I be using grub-efi-amd64 instead of grub?
[16:10] <w30> My install has grub-common installed as default
[16:44] <xsl> Hi all ... is xubuntu rdy for LTSP ?
[16:49] <Marzata> Lutheran Theological Seminary at Philadelphia?
[17:19] <becker_11> Hi I've ran may distros of linux in the past but since installing xubuntu my internet speed has seemed very slow. I was wondering if I could turn off the auto updates feature as I prefer to use apt-get for that anyway and maybe that would help the internet speed slightly as well
[17:22] <w30> becker_11, some people gain speed by disabling ivp6    if you don't need it
[17:22] <becker_11> okay I didn't realise it was on
[17:22] <becker_11> w30, how would I disable it?
[17:24] <w30> becker_11, it don't hurt mine though; edit your connection in network connections
[17:25] <w30> becker_11, maybe set ipv6 settings to ignore
[17:25] <becker_11> w30, yeah just done that. When I used Debian it was off by default.
[17:25] <becker_11> w30, Do you have any idea regarding the auto software update??
[17:25] <w30> becker_11, I haven't done it but you can always change it back
[17:26] <becker_11> w30, shouldn't need to as I've never used it previously
[17:27] <w30> becker_11, I haven't messed with auto update.....
[17:27] <becker_11> w30, no worries thanks for the other tip though
[17:55] <nanotube> w30: hey, btw, you weren't here at the time, but i ran compiz --replace and had no issues with window decorations. so i guess the plain ubuntu has some packages in it that makes everything peachy.
[17:56] <TheSheep> nanotube: it has metacity
[17:56] <w30> nanotube, ok, thats good news
[17:56] <nanotube> TheSheep: hm, could be. seems that people running pure xubuntu though, have to go through some contortions to get decorations working
[17:56] <nanotube> apparently none of them have clued into installing the metacity package to try to fix it?
[17:57] <TheSheep> that's because metacity is a part of the eternal evil called gnome
[17:57] <w30> nanotube, what's the metacity package name?
[17:58] <nanotube> w30: at a guess, 'metacity' :)
[17:58] <TheSheep> !info metacity
[17:58] <TheSheep> lightweight, haha
[17:58]  * w30 wants no gnome anything since it became gnome3
[17:59] <nanotube> well, metacity itself is not bad at all.
[17:59] <nanotube> it's the rest of the gnome crap that pulls weight
[17:59] <w30> lightweight compared to Windows 7, MACOSX, KDE, eh?
[18:00] <nanotube> heh
[18:03] <Sysi> I'm not sure if I had metacity or if gtk-window-decorator from compiz-gnome was enough
[18:04] <Sysi> metacity has to be lightweight, why would they use something so awful otherwise
[18:06] <Sysi> are there decorator(s), besides compiz and kwin that can raise window when alt-tabbing?
[18:07] <Marzata> is fluxbox lighter than xfce?
[18:10] <Sysi> well, it's just about a windowmanager so yes
[18:10] <Sysi> lxde should have a bit smaller ram footprint too
[18:12] <Marzata> lxde lacks usability and aesthetics
[18:14] <Sysi> I guess it would have everything I need, but I have resources to run xfce
[18:16] <knome> Marzata, that's the thing, isn't it? if you have more features, you will use more memory
[18:16] <Marzata> knome: no more than xfce :>
[18:18] <pimperle> i cannot use the mouse while holding ALT to resize and move windows.
[18:18] <pimperle> also selecting text stops alt-tab from working and the cursor stays with its text selecting shape
[18:18] <pimperle> (the big I)
[18:19] <pimperle> i can temporary fix this by starting a shell (global shortcuts still seem to work) and launching xfwm4 --replace
[18:21] <pimperle> toggling the compositor option does not help
[18:26] <Sysi> pimperle: when it breakes again after running xfwm4 --replace?
[18:26] <pimperle> when selecting text
[18:27] <pimperle> now i ran aptitude safe-upgrade again (did i yesterday i think)
[18:27] <pimperle> and the problem seems to be gone
[18:27] <pimperle> without restarting anything (xfwm4 --replace of course)
[18:28] <pimperle> http://pastie.org/3113733
[18:28] <pimperle> that's a list of packages which were upgraded
[18:28] <w30> if you are using compiz you need to check some of the window management boxes to get move resize etc. to work like they dis with xfce or gonme, whatever.
[18:28] <w30> dis/did
[18:30] <pimperle> i'm not using compiz
[18:31] <w30> pimperle, sorry, I am not following close enough
[18:32] <pimperle> never mind, the upgrade seems to have fixed it for now
[18:32]  * w30 slaps himself
[18:32] <pimperle> i'll come back, should it occur again
[18:37] <dleonardi> hey, i'm trying to install xubuntu and X11 turns out to be messed up. i need to reconfigure it with a special modeline, but i cant find any Xorg.conf or whatever other file in /etc/X11
[18:38] <dleonardi> where does one go and specify video drivers, video modes and the like in xubuntu?
[18:38] <Sysi> you need to create it with Xorg -configure when not running X11
[18:39] <dleonardi> so, kill the installer, run Xorg -configure, and relaunch xinit ?
[18:39] <dleonardi> lets do that.
[18:42] <dleonardi> Sysi: every time i kill the X process it springs back to life.
[18:43] <Sysi> doing it while installing sounds like a bad idea anyway
[18:43] <dleonardi> well i cant see the installer without fixing X...
[18:43] <dleonardi> is there not a text mode?
[18:44] <Marzata> install ubuntu server first
[18:44] <Marzata> then add the desktop you need
[18:44] <Sysi> Marzata: it's better to use alternate installer
[18:44] <Marzata> that one too
[18:44] <dleonardi> ouch. i cant re-download a 800 meg iso
[18:45] <dleonardi> am on low bandwidth
[18:45] <dleonardi> what alternate installer?
[18:45] <Sysi> that's the text installer
[18:45] <Sysi> \disk with it
[18:46] <Sysi> you can try booting with xforcevesa option if driver picked by default doesn't work
[18:46] <dleonardi> so.. i just rebooted my device. i got the nice framebuffer greeter with the "try xubuntu before installiung" menuy thing
[18:46] <dleonardi> i was hoping to find a text installer there, but theres no trace of it
[18:46] <dleonardi> xforcevesa .. mmm
[18:47] <dleonardi> that might be worth a shot.
[18:47] <holstein> dleonardi: theres an alternate installer disc, seperate download
[18:47] <dleonardi> aw snap.
[18:47] <holstein> if you cant get to the desktop live, you usually have some issue with hardware though
[18:47] <holstein> trying the vesa driver is a great place to start
[18:48] <dleonardi> well ubuntu 8.10 works with the vesa driver and a special modeline
[18:48] <Marzata> ubuntu server and lynx - do you need more?
[18:48] <dleonardi> i'm expecting it to be the same here
[18:48] <dleonardi> Marzata: and emacs. fuck ya .
[18:48] <dleonardi> :D
[18:48] <holstein> dleonardi: i would expect the same thing, if not less support on older hardware like that
[18:48] <Marzata> emacs sucks, correct.
[18:48] <dleonardi> i want sublime editor! :D
[18:49] <Marzata> vim?
[19:05] <dleonardi> so.. xforcevesa did the trick. my mouse was totally messed up but god thanks there is the tab key. installing, and will find out soon enough what's what.
[19:06] <dleonardi> if anybody here owns and runs xubuntu on an oqo 02 i'd appreciate any tips. :D
[20:20] <MOM> Hi, I need help with the Panel 2 customization.
[20:21] <MOM> I'm new to Linux, and when the setup ended I was thrilled, but when I logged in I made a mistake and choose xfce instead of xubuntu and now when I'm back in xubuntu the panel 2 won't be transparent.
[21:06] <neothecat> i know this has probably been asked a million times, but i could not find a direct answer. is xubuntu exactly the same as ubuntu, in terms of service configuration, app versions numbers, etc. except it uses Xfce instead of gnome as it's default DE?
[21:07] <Sysi> apps are same, init services should be the same
[21:08] <neothecat> ok, thanks.  can't stand gnome3, but like xfce, so i wanted to use xubuntu.  i was not sure if it was the kind of relation mint is to linux.
[21:08] <Sysi> mint is not *buntu
[21:10] <neothecat> mint is derived from ubuntu, so i did not know if xubuntu was derived from ubuntu, or was ubuntu with a different DE (which is what i was hoping for)
[21:12] <Sysi> xubuntu is official derivative, uses same repositories
[21:13] <Sysi> !flavors
[22:21] <taiyal> how do I put a panel on the right side of the screen? All I have to choose from are "horizontal" and "vertical".
[22:21] <taiyal> I'm trying to move the "dock" panel to the right side of the screen
[22:21] <Sysi> unlock and drag from handles
[22:23] <taiyal> ah, thank you
[23:19] <taiyal> how can I make the XFCE "Window Buttons" panel feature not run off the side of the panel?
[23:56] <multipass|2> taiyal: what do you mean run off the side?
[23:58] <taiyal> multipass|2:  when I open too many windows, the "window buttons" component keeps growing past the limit of the panel, pushing everything after itself off the panel
[23:58] <multipass|2> auto expand
[23:58] <multipass|2> on the actual panel
[23:58] <multipass|2> below length
[23:58] <multipass|2> i think thats what you want
[23:59] <taiyal> that's not helping