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hallyn#startmeeting16:00
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RoAkSoAxwas just about to start it :P16:00
Davieyo/16:00
hallyn#topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting16:00
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SpamapSRoAkSoAx: you're after me. :)16:00
hallynno  topics :)16:00
m_3o/16:00
hallyn#topic Precise Development16:01
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hallynover to Daviey16:01
RoAkSoAxSpamapS: ;)16:01
jamespageo/16:01
DavieyWe are all catching up on backlog email no dohbt ;)16:01
SpamapSDaviey: back from the hinterlands?16:01
Davieyhttp://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html needs some lovin'16:01
SpamapSDaviey: I have another one for that list I think16:02
DavieySpamapS: i'm still on holiday :)16:02
* smb awes at the use of German... :)16:02
Davieyhttp://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/triage-report.html needs some love!16:02
DavieyIs there anything of particular nature onanyones mind?16:02
hallyneh what?  netcf is packaged.  Fixed the status of that bug16:02
rbasakI can take bug 906735, that seems simple enough16:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 906735 in puppet (Ubuntu) "package installation should create /var/log/puppet" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90673516:02
SpamapSbug #898340 needs to be on the release radar I think16:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 898340 in mysql-5.5 (Ubuntu) "mysql clients statically link libmysqlclient in" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89834016:02
hallynright now p11-kit is on my mind - can't check email over mutt!16:02
Davieyadam_g: How are the charms looking for openstack?16:03
adam_gDaviey: horizon + keystone submitted to for approval in to the charm store16:03
DavieySpamapS: are you one of the reviewers? :)16:03
m_3adam_g: gotta tag them with new-charm to hit the review queue16:03
adam_gi submitted them after EOD friday prior to holiday16:04
SpamapSI will definitely review16:04
Davieyjamespage: Are you off rotation from stable now?16:04
adam_gm_3: ah, ill do that16:04
jamespageDaviey: yep!16:04
Davieyjamespage: viable to work on the CI lab this week?16:05
jamespageDaviey: almost certainly16:05
* SpamapS goes afk to usher family out the door16:05
jamespage(== yes)16:05
hallynbug 607039 needs module-init-tools love, but i'm not sure how best to do it since we differ from debian16:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 607039 in nfs-utils (Ubuntu) "NFS4 automount using replicated servers doesn't work" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60703916:05
DavieySo.. If everyone can make sure they: - review WI'16:05
Davieys to make srue they uare up to date. - udp16:06
Davieyup to date16:06
Daviey()[Ddamn lag)16:06
smbDaviey, less coffee16:06
DavieyBurn through the incoming bug list..16:06
Davieyand look for targets for next week, that would rock16:06
Davieyany questions?16:06
hallynpour some on the intertubes16:06
hallyn'look for targets for next week'?16:07
Davieyhallyn: Things that are better addressed face-to-face16:07
Daviey()[DSome of Canonical server team are meeting face to face next week16:07
hallynok16:07
hallynmoving on?16:07
Davieyrocking16:07
hallyn#topic Ubuntu Server Team Events16:07
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hallynlittle shindig next week, according to rumors16:08
DavieyNext week, some of server team in Budapest16:08
DavieyFosdem in feb16:08
Daviey()[D4-5th16:09
hallyn#topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)16:09
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Davieyjamespage: have you been closer to this?16:10
jamespagein some areas probably16:10
hallyn?16:11
hallynwhat is 'this'?16:11
Davieyjamespage: how is automated looking?16:11
Daviey(QA and testing)16:11
hallynah16:11
jamespageI put a few new ISO install tests live just before Chirstmas; so we now have daily testing of Multi-volume LVM and RAID-1 installs16:11
hallynneat16:12
jamespagepatrickmw has put a new precise dashboard live for the daily testing - https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Precise%20ISO%20Testing%20Dashboard/view/Daily/?16:12
hggdhwhich means we are pretty much complete for ISO testing, I guess16:12
Davieyoooo16:12
Davieyhey hggdh  o/16:12
jamespageyou will notice the the precise ec2 images are broken ATM - nice kernel oops16:13
hggdhDaviey: happy new year, etc :-)16:13
* jamespage digs for the bug16:13
Davieyeeek16:13
jamespagebug 91120416:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 911204 in linux (Ubuntu) "precise ec2 images fail to boot with kernel oops" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91120416:14
smbSeems someone upstream managed to break Xen/EC2 guests on Precise by some rtc changes. I believe to understand the problem by now. Need to start discussion.16:14
Daviey\o/16:14
jamespage:-(16:14
hggdhand minimal-virtual still shows about 100M more than it should for installed size... must be something we are adding in on the jenkins test16:15
jamespagehggdh: no - the test takes that into account - amd64 is to large16:15
hggdhjamespage: by 100M?16:15
hggdher, O(100)16:16
jamespageyes I think so16:16
smbjamespage, I hope to be able to try a patch later on. At least I can see it to some degree on my local system, too.16:16
jamespageOpenstack automated testing progress has been slow but hopefully progress in the next few days16:16
jamespageadam_g, zul and I need to catchup as we have all been working on misc pieces of the puzzle16:17
adam_gjamespage: id love to actually pair with you on that now that we can deploy keystone + horizon with the other charms16:17
zulindeed16:17
jamespage+1 to that16:17
jamespageI'll make sure that all of the infrastructure pieces are done this week16:18
jamespageit will make a good target to complete early during the sprint16:18
jamespagethats it from me...16:18
hallynok, thanks - moving on16:18
hallyn#topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)16:18
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Davieysmhey16:19
smbBeside of the new precise breakage... not much to report yet16:19
DavieyI hear the ec2 precise kernel is bad.. :)16:19
smbJust when one does not look for 2 weeks16:19
smbOn the other hand the change to make it boot at all came in via upstream. :-P16:20
Davieybug 902951 ?16:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 902951 in linux (Ubuntu) "CONFIG_VIRTIO_BLK shouldnt be a module" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90295116:20
smbProbably goes alongside with the problem we have with the xen pv drivers16:20
Davieyzul: ^?16:20
zulDaviey: thats with the amd64 kernel i havent tried it recently16:21
smbWhile I think that one was already in the installer but needed a special action to load the module16:21
Davieyahh16:21
Davieysmb: Are you aware how the various ARM kernels are doing?16:22
Davieyrbasak: ^^?16:22
smbDaviey, No16:22
* rbasak doesn't know16:22
DavieyI'm concerned we'll notice something late in the cycle.16:23
rbasakI've not tried precise on a pandaboard yet but I can stick that in my todo if you like16:23
smbDaviey, Have we committed really there. Given that Xen on arm is just being done16:23
hallyn#action rbasak to try precise on pandaboard16:24
meetingologyACTION: rbasak to try precise on pandaboard16:24
Davieysmb: Not in specific to xen on arm, that is a nice to have / SRU / Universe thing, if possible16:24
DavieyJust general ARM kernel support.16:24
DavieyLast cycle we noticed missi g modules very late16:25
smbDaviey, Ah... Ok, have not noticed anyone shouting at me. But you can ask ppisati maybe16:25
Davieyok, thanks!16:26
Daviey..16:26
hallyn#topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (NCommander)16:26
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hallyn(should we swap in rbasak for that?)16:26
hallyni'll take that as a yes, and ask rbasak: any other arm related news?16:27
hallyn(rbasak: you interface regularly with NCommander?)16:27
rbasakOK, I'll check with NCommander in the weekly ARM meeting, I can swap Daviey for rbasak in their agenda too16:28
hallynhm, well moving on16:29
hallynoops16:29
hallynrbasak: thanks16:29
rbasakNo news as far as I'm aware. I'll test precise on a panda this week16:29
hallyn#action hallyn to swap rbasak for NCommander in arm agenda section16:30
meetingologyACTION: hallyn to swap rbasak for NCommander in arm agenda section16:30
hallyn#topic Weekly Updates & Questions from the Ubuntu Community16:30
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hallynmoving on,16:31
hallyn#topic Open Discussion16:31
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rbasakbug 858878 - RoAkSoAx, where are we with that?16:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 858878 in cobbler (Ubuntu Oneiric) "lack of csrf protection in cobbler-web" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85887816:31
rbasak(this is for the SRU rather than Precise)16:32
RoAkSoAxrbasak: so changes were uncommitted as the security process is different, so really there's nothing I can do16:32
adam_gzul: when is the next openstack snapshot going out?16:32
RoAkSoAxrbasak: as it is a security update not an SRU16:32
rbasakOK, so does someone else need to sponsor it?16:32
RoAkSoAxrbasak: uyes someone from the security team16:32
zuladam_g: friday16:33
RoAkSoAxrbasak: I can'16:33
rbasakor are we just waiting on the security team?16:33
rbasakOK I'll poke them, thanks16:33
Davieyrbasak: is there a prepped security update?16:33
RoAkSoAxrbasak: I can't recall who was helping me on that and said that he will push it thru, but then I went on holidays and forgot, sorry :(16:33
adam_gzul: any chance it can roast for a day or two in a PPA first?16:33
rbasakDaviey: yes, except that I need to change the pocket presumably16:33
rbasakDaviey: lp:~racb/ubuntu/oneiric/cobbler/security_20111216:34
zuladam_g: sure i can let it stew in a ppa by thursday16:34
adam_gzul: if you can let it simmer there, that'd be cool. we can boil out any bugs before end of week so we're in good shape in budapest16:35
RoAkSoAxDaviey: rbasak I think its wise to check the security ppa, cause, AFAIK, it was supposed to hit the PPA in order to test, and I was gonna be ping to do so16:35
rbasakah, the pocket is correct. so just waiting for sponsor/review16:35
zuladam_g: no worries16:35
hallynall right, moving on,16:35
hallyn#topic Announce next meeting date and time16:35
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hallynnone next week i assume, so16:36
hallynTuesday, Jan 17 at 16:00 UTC16:36
hallynthanks, all16:36
hallyn#endmeeting16:36
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Jan  3 16:36:15 2012 UTC.16:36
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RoAkSoAx  /win 316:48
jsalisburyRoll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting16:59
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jsalisbury#startmeeting17:00
jsalisbury##17:00
jsalisbury## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting.17:00
jsalisbury##17:00
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Jan  3 17:00:05 2012 UTC.  The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.17:00
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jsalisbury[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting17:00
jsalisbury[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Precise17:00
jsalisbury# Meeting Etiquette17:00
jsalisbury#17:00
jsalisbury# NOTE: '..' indicates that you are finished with your input.17:00
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jsalisbury[TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)17:00
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ppisatiP/omap4: nothing new to report this week.17:00
ppisati..17:00
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)17:00
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jsalisburyRelease metrics and incomming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:17:00
jsalisbury[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt17:00
jsalisbury..17:01
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)17:01
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ogasawara[LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-kernel-team-precise-alpha-2.html17:01
ogasawara|| apw        || hardware-p-kernel-boot                || 1 work item  ||17:01
ogasawara||            || hardware-p-kernel-config-review       || 7 work items ||17:01
ogasawara||            || hardware-p-kernel-delta-review        || 4 work items ||17:01
ogasawara||            || foundations-p-ipv6                    || 1 work item  ||17:01
ogasawara|| cking      || hardware-p-kernel-delta-review        || 1 work item  ||17:01
ogasawara|| jsalisbury || other-p-bug-workflows                 || 1 work item  ||17:01
ogasawara|| ogasawara  || hardware-p-kernel-version-and-flavors || 1 work item  ||17:01
ogasawara||            || hardware-p-kernel-config-review       || 10 work items||17:01
ogasawara|| tgardner   || hardware-p-kernel-delta-review        || 1 work item  ||17:01
ogasawaraIf your name is in the above table, please review your Alpha-2 work items.  Note that Alpha-2 is Thurs Feb 2.17:01
ogasawara..17:01
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Blueprint: hardware-p-kernel-power-management (cking)17:01
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ckingPower Management:17:01
cking * Write up results from wake events analysis and file lots of bugs17:01
cking   http://zinc.canonical.com/~cking/power-benchmarking/events/17:01
cking * Write cpustat: git://kernel.ubuntu.com/cking/cpustat.git17:01
cking   Test CPU utilization, results:17:01
cking   http://zinc.canonical.com/~cking/power-benchmarking/cpu/17:01
cking * Investigate MSR_IA32_ENERGY_PERF_BIAS on sandybridge, no +ve results17:01
cking   need to rig up Ivybridge desktop to sanity check this.17:02
cking * LP#911325 - new pm-utils scripts to save power17:02
cking * Collect power measurements on Hardy, Lucid, Maverick, Natty, Oneiric, Precise17:02
cking..17:02
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Status: Precise Development Kernel (ogasawara)17:02
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ogasawaraOver the holiday break we rebased to v3.2-rc7 and uploaded.  Aside from that not much else has been done.17:02
ogasawaraImportant Upcoming Dates:17:02
ogasawara * Thurs Feb 2 - Alpha 2 (~4 weeks)17:02
ogasawara..17:02
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Status: CVE's (apw)17:02
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apw=== CVE Metrics ===17:03
apw 17:03
apw[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt17:03
apw 17:03
apwCurrently open CVEs for each supported branch:17:03
apw 17:03
apw|| Package                                  || Open      ||17:03
apw||                                          ||           ||17:03
apw|| linux Hardy                              ||   10 (-3) ||17:03
apw|| linux Lucid                              ||    7 (-3) ||17:03
apw|| linux Maverick                           ||    8 (-2) ||17:03
apw|| linux Natty                              ||    9 (-1) ||17:03
apw|| linux Oneiric                            ||    7 (-1) ||17:03
apw|| linux Precise                            ||    6 (-2) ||17:03
apw|| linux-ec2 Lucid                          ||    7 (-3) ||17:03
apw|| linux-fsl-imx51 Lucid                    ||    7 (-4) ||17:03
apw|| linux-mvl-dove Lucid                     ||    7 (-3) ||17:03
apw|| linux-mvl-dove Maverick                  ||    7 (-3) ||17:03
apw|| linux-ti-omap4 Maverick                  ||    9 (-2) ||17:03
apw|| linux-ti-omap4 Natty                     ||    9 (-1) ||17:03
apw|| linux-ti-omap4 Oneiric                   ||    7 (-1) ||17:03
apw|| linux-ti-omap4 Precise                   ||    6 (-2) ||17:03
apw|| linux-lts-backport-maverick Lucid        ||    8 (-2) ||17:03
apw|| linux-lts-backport-natty Lucid           ||    9 (-1) ||17:03
apw|| linux-lts-backport-oneiric Lucid         ||    7 (-1) ||17:03
apw 17:03
apwWe have had two new CVEs added to the matrix since the last report.  Two of those without upstream fixes have had those identified and have been triaged to specific releases.17:03
apw 17:03
apw..17:03
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Oneiric/Natty/Maverick/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton)17:04
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bjf 17:04
bjfHere is the status for the main kernels, until today (19/12):17:04
bjf 17:04
bjf * Hardy - 2.6.24-30.9817:04
bjf  * New kernel, now in verification. Contains commits for 5 CVEs.17:04
bjf 17:04
bjf * Lucid - 2.6.32-38.8217:04
bjf  * New kernel, waiting to be copied to -proposed. Contains a stable upstream17:04
bjf    release as well as some CVEs. This also turns CONFIG_NET_NS back on.17:04
bjf 17:04
bjf * Maverick - 2.6.35-32.6417:04
bjf  * New kernel, waiting to be copied to -proposed. Contains a rare, stable17:04
bjf    upstream release as well as some CVEs.17:04
bjf 17:04
bjf * Natty - 2.6.38-13.5317:04
bjf  * New kernel, now being built.17:04
bjf 17:04
bjf * Oneiric - 3.0.0-15.2517:04
bjf  * New kernel, now in verification. A regression was identified in the17:04
bjf    previous -proposed kernel (bug 904569). The offending commit was reverted17:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 904569 in linux (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Linux 3.0.0-15 causes laptops to fail to resume from suspend (Dell XPS 1645, Sony Vaio VPCF1390)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90456917:04
bjf    and this kernel produced.17:04
bjf 17:04
bjfCurrent opened tracking bugs details:17:04
bjf * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html17:04
bjf 17:05
bjfFor SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:17:05
bjf * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html17:05
bjf 17:05
bjfFuture stable cadence cycles:17:05
bjf * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseInterlock17:05
bjf..17:05
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)17:05
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jsalisburyThanks everyone17:06
kamalthanks jsalisbury17:06
jsalisbury#endmeeting17:06
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Jan  3 17:06:55 2012 UTC.17:06
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czajkowskistgraber: ping19:25
StefandeVriesWasn't there supposed to be an EMEA meeting now?20:06
drubinStefandeVries: yes if we get enough members20:06
leoquanti thought so StefandeVries20:07
czajkowskiI'm here20:07
czajkowskihighvoltage: ogra_ stgraber20:07
czajkowskiiulian: ping20:08
czajkowskicommandoline: you here?20:08
commandolineI am20:09
commandolinehi20:09
iulianczajkowski: Here.20:09
* ogra_ looks20:09
drubinthat is 4 of us20:09
czajkowskiright 4 of us and 1 candidate20:09
czajkowskilets get going shall we20:09
czajkowski#meeting20:10
czajkowski#startmeeting20:10
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Jan  3 20:10:18 2012 UTC.  The chair is czajkowski. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.20:10
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czajkowskicommandoline: welcome20:10
czajkowskihttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/marten-de-vries20:10
commandolinethanks20:10
czajkowskicommandoline: care to tell us a little about yourself20:11
commandolineHello, I am Marten de Vries, and live in the Netherlands. My main Ubuntu contributions are in the Ubuntu Nederland loco team, mostly in its webteam and Mwanzo team. (The last of them helps users that want to start contributing to Ubuntu.)20:11
* stgraber waves20:11
czajkowskidrubin: iulian ogra_ stgraber thanks20:11
czajkowskicommandoline: can you tell us some more about the Mwanzo team ?20:12
drubino/20:13
commandolineOf course, it teaches Ubuntu users more about how to contribute to Ubuntu20:13
commandolinee.g. via workshops (like the international Ubuntu classroom project)20:13
commandolinebut it's also the place where people are pointed to in the Dutch loco if they want to contribute but don't know how20:13
commandolineso to our IRC channel20:14
czajkowskicommandoline: ca I ask why a seperate team from say the beginners team that already exists?20:14
czajkowski*can20:14
commandolineczajkowski: the difference is we support users in Dutch20:14
commandoline* help, my English isn't perfect either :P20:15
czajkowskithat's fine20:15
drubincommandoline: How does working on open  teacher differ from your work with ubuntu?20:15
commandolinedrubin: well, it's officially a separate project and this is about Ubuntu Membership. But of course it's in the repo's now thanks to porthose20:16
commandolineand it's also opensource software, of which all main devs are Ubuntu NL community members at the moment.20:16
czajkowskiyou mention the classroom project, do you see yourself getting more involved in the greater ubuntu wide community ?20:17
commandolineczajkowski: for you question: it's not just helping in Dutch by the way, but also that all the wiki pages etc. are in dutch20:18
drubincommandoline: that is why I asked how it differed. It is interesting to see how external projects make it into peoples work.20:18
iuliancommandoline: Let's say that I'm a new Dutch user who wants to contribute to Ubuntu but my English is not that good. How can I get in touch with Mwanzo? Do you guys have a place where you advertise it? How would I become aware of its existence?20:18
drubincommandoline: Nice on it being a commnunity project.20:18
* drubin is ready to vote btw20:18
* ogra_ too,20:18
commandolineso you just don't need to know a word of English, which some people in the netherlands don't.20:18
czajkowskiogra_: stgraber iulian any more comments/questions?20:18
commandolinedrubin: ok20:18
* stgraber is ready to vote20:19
Thomas_de_Graaff\o/20:19
commandolineiulian: well, you probably would go to the Ubuntu NL Forum20:19
commandolineit's the place where most of the dutch community members are20:19
commandolineoften to get support when installing e.g.20:19
commandolinethere are links there to the mwanzo team20:19
commandolineand even a subforum where we advertise what we do20:20
commandolineso you'd see it via the dutch loco site20:20
iuliancommandoline: OK, brill. Thanks.20:20
iulianczajkowski: Ready.20:20
commandolineand also via IRC, maybe20:20
Ronnie\o/20:20
czajkowski#vote please vote on the commandoline membership.20:20
meetingologyPlease vote on: please vote on the commandoline membership.20:20
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)20:20
StefandeVries\o/20:20
czajkowski+120:20
meetingology+1 received from czajkowski20:20
leoquant\o/ for commandoline20:20
stgraber+120:20
meetingology+1 received from stgraber20:20
iulian+120:20
meetingology+1 received from iulian20:20
ogra_+1 (awesome testimonials, great to see such a big cheering crowd here)20:20
meetingology+1 (awesome testimonials, great to see such a big cheering crowd here) received from ogra_20:20
drubin+120:21
meetingology+1 received from drubin20:21
czajkowski#endvote20:21
meetingologyVoting ended on: please vote on the commandoline membership.20:21
meetingologyVotes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:020:21
meetingologyMotion carried20:21
CasWBy the way; I wanted to add a testimonial, too, but I couldn't find it (and I was in a hurry) ;)20:21
drubini forgot you can include reasons with the new bot20:21
ogra_congrats commandoline20:21
drubincongrats commandoline20:21
Thomas_de_Graaffcongrats commandoline :D20:21
leoquantgreat commandoline ! congrats20:21
CasWCongrats, commandoline! :D20:21
StefandeVriesCongratulations, commandoline :)20:21
czajkowskicongratulations20:21
Ronniegreat work commandoline20:21
commandolinethanks EMEA membership board :)20:21
iulianWell done commandoline and keep up the good work.20:21
commandolineand thanks all supporters from the loco!20:21
czajkowskican someone add commandoline to the ubuntu members  please20:22
czajkowskiI'm lagging here20:22
toddyCongratulations, commandoline :)20:22
iulianAnd get those new Dutch guys here!20:22
czajkowski#endmeeting20:22
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meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-01-03-20.10.moin.txt20:22
iulianczajkowski: On it.20:22
czajkowskiiulian: thanks20:22
czajkowskiogra_: iulian stgraber drubin thanks for coming folks20:22
commandolineiulian: on it :)20:22
ogra_czajkowski, thanks for leading :)20:23
iulianczajkowski: Done.20:23
stgraberczajkowski: thanks for chairing20:23
czajkowskino worries20:23
drubincommandoline: thank you20:23
leoquantthx board20:23
czajkowskican someone else do the mail to the CC20:23
czajkowskihands up20:23
drubinme now needs to go get ready for work.20:23
czajkowskibefore I nominate ;020:23
czajkowski;)20:23
iulianczajkowski: I think I know who you gonna nominate.20:23
iulianczajkowski: I'll take care of it.20:24
czajkowskiiulian: thank you20:24
czajkowskitoodles till next month20:24
commandolinebye20:25
StefandeVriesThanks, board :)20:25
CasWYeah, thanks20:25

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