[08:13] <oscalation> Evening.
[15:58] <hallyn> \o
[15:59] <SpamapS> half-here
[15:59] <Ursinha> \o
[15:59] <RoAkSoAx> o/
[15:59] <adam_g> o/
[15:59] <utlemming> \o
[16:00] <smb> somehow there
[16:00] <hallyn> #startmeeting
[16:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jan  3 16:00:22 2012 UTC.  The chair is hallyn. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
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[16:00] <RoAkSoAx> was just about to start it :P
[16:00] <Daviey> o/
[16:00] <hallyn> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:00] <SpamapS> RoAkSoAx: you're after me. :)
[16:00] <hallyn> no  topics :)
[16:00] <m_3> o/
[16:01] <hallyn> #topic Precise Development
[16:01] <hallyn> over to Daviey
[16:01] <RoAkSoAx> SpamapS: ;)
[16:01] <jamespage> o/
[16:01] <Daviey> We are all catching up on backlog email no dohbt ;)
[16:01] <SpamapS> Daviey: back from the hinterlands?
[16:01] <Daviey> http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html needs some lovin'
[16:02] <SpamapS> Daviey: I have another one for that list I think
[16:02] <Daviey> SpamapS: i'm still on holiday :)
[16:02]  * smb awes at the use of German... :)
[16:02] <Daviey> http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/triage-report.html needs some love!
[16:02] <Daviey> Is there anything of particular nature onanyones mind?
[16:02] <hallyn> eh what?  netcf is packaged.  Fixed the status of that bug
[16:02] <rbasak> I can take bug 906735, that seems simple enough
[16:02] <SpamapS> bug #898340 needs to be on the release radar I think
[16:02] <hallyn> right now p11-kit is on my mind - can't check email over mutt!
[16:03] <Daviey> adam_g: How are the charms looking for openstack?
[16:03] <adam_g> Daviey: horizon + keystone submitted to for approval in to the charm store
[16:03] <Daviey> SpamapS: are you one of the reviewers? :)
[16:03] <m_3> adam_g: gotta tag them with new-charm to hit the review queue
[16:04] <adam_g> i submitted them after EOD friday prior to holiday
[16:04] <SpamapS> I will definitely review
[16:04] <Daviey> jamespage: Are you off rotation from stable now?
[16:04] <adam_g> m_3: ah, ill do that
[16:04] <jamespage> Daviey: yep!
[16:05] <Daviey> jamespage: viable to work on the CI lab this week?
[16:05] <jamespage> Daviey: almost certainly
[16:05]  * SpamapS goes afk to usher family out the door
[16:05] <jamespage> (== yes)
[16:05] <hallyn> bug 607039 needs module-init-tools love, but i'm not sure how best to do it since we differ from debian
[16:05] <Daviey> So.. If everyone can make sure they: - review WI'
[16:06] <Daviey> s to make srue they uare up to date. - udp
[16:06] <Daviey> up to date
[16:06] <Daviey> ()[Ddamn lag)
[16:06] <smb> Daviey, less coffee
[16:06] <Daviey> Burn through the incoming bug list..
[16:06] <Daviey> and look for targets for next week, that would rock
[16:06] <Daviey> any questions?
[16:06] <hallyn> pour some on the intertubes
[16:07] <hallyn> 'look for targets for next week'?
[16:07] <Daviey> hallyn: Things that are better addressed face-to-face
[16:07] <Daviey> ()[DSome of Canonical server team are meeting face to face next week
[16:07] <hallyn> ok
[16:07] <hallyn> moving on?
[16:07] <Daviey> rocking
[16:07] <hallyn> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:08] <hallyn> little shindig next week, according to rumors
[16:08] <Daviey> Next week, some of server team in Budapest
[16:08] <Daviey> Fosdem in feb
[16:09] <Daviey> ()[D4-5th
[16:09] <hallyn> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
[16:10] <Daviey> jamespage: have you been closer to this?
[16:10] <jamespage> in some areas probably
[16:11] <hallyn> ?
[16:11] <hallyn> what is 'this'?
[16:11] <Daviey> jamespage: how is automated looking?
[16:11] <Daviey> (QA and testing)
[16:11] <hallyn> ah
[16:11] <jamespage> I put a few new ISO install tests live just before Chirstmas; so we now have daily testing of Multi-volume LVM and RAID-1 installs
[16:12] <hallyn> neat
[16:12] <jamespage> patrickmw has put a new precise dashboard live for the daily testing - https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Precise%20ISO%20Testing%20Dashboard/view/Daily/?
[16:12] <hggdh> which means we are pretty much complete for ISO testing, I guess
[16:12] <Daviey> oooo
[16:12] <Daviey> hey hggdh  o/
[16:13] <jamespage> you will notice the the precise ec2 images are broken ATM - nice kernel oops
[16:13] <hggdh> Daviey: happy new year, etc :-)
[16:13]  * jamespage digs for the bug
[16:13] <Daviey> eeek
[16:14] <jamespage> bug 911204
[16:14] <smb> Seems someone upstream managed to break Xen/EC2 guests on Precise by some rtc changes. I believe to understand the problem by now. Need to start discussion.
[16:14] <Daviey> \o/
[16:14] <jamespage> :-(
[16:15] <hggdh> and minimal-virtual still shows about 100M more than it should for installed size... must be something we are adding in on the jenkins test
[16:15] <jamespage> hggdh: no - the test takes that into account - amd64 is to large
[16:15] <hggdh> jamespage: by 100M?
[16:16] <hggdh> er, O(100)
[16:16] <jamespage> yes I think so
[16:16] <smb> jamespage, I hope to be able to try a patch later on. At least I can see it to some degree on my local system, too.
[16:16] <jamespage> Openstack automated testing progress has been slow but hopefully progress in the next few days
[16:17] <jamespage> adam_g, zul and I need to catchup as we have all been working on misc pieces of the puzzle
[16:17] <adam_g> jamespage: id love to actually pair with you on that now that we can deploy keystone + horizon with the other charms
[16:17] <zul> indeed
[16:17] <jamespage> +1 to that
[16:18] <jamespage> I'll make sure that all of the infrastructure pieces are done this week
[16:18] <jamespage> it will make a good target to complete early during the sprint
[16:18] <jamespage> thats it from me...
[16:18] <hallyn> ok, thanks - moving on
[16:18] <hallyn> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
[16:19] <Daviey> sm	hey
[16:19] <smb> Beside of the new precise breakage... not much to report yet
[16:19] <Daviey> I hear the ec2 precise kernel is bad.. :)
[16:19] <smb> Just when one does not look for 2 weeks
[16:20] <smb> On the other hand the change to make it boot at all came in via upstream. :-P
[16:20] <Daviey> bug 902951 ?
[16:20] <smb> Probably goes alongside with the problem we have with the xen pv drivers
[16:20] <Daviey> zul: ^?
[16:21] <zul> Daviey: thats with the amd64 kernel i havent tried it recently
[16:21] <smb> While I think that one was already in the installer but needed a special action to load the module
[16:21] <Daviey> ahh
[16:22] <Daviey> smb: Are you aware how the various ARM kernels are doing?
[16:22] <Daviey> rbasak: ^^?
[16:22] <smb> Daviey, No
[16:22]  * rbasak doesn't know
[16:23] <Daviey> I'm concerned we'll notice something late in the cycle.
[16:23] <rbasak> I've not tried precise on a pandaboard yet but I can stick that in my todo if you like
[16:23] <smb> Daviey, Have we committed really there. Given that Xen on arm is just being done
[16:24] <hallyn> #action rbasak to try precise on pandaboard
[16:24] <meetingology> ACTION: rbasak to try precise on pandaboard
[16:24] <Daviey> smb: Not in specific to xen on arm, that is a nice to have / SRU / Universe thing, if possible
[16:24] <Daviey> Just general ARM kernel support.
[16:25] <Daviey> Last cycle we noticed missi g modules very late
[16:25] <smb> Daviey, Ah... Ok, have not noticed anyone shouting at me. But you can ask ppisati maybe
[16:26] <Daviey> ok, thanks!
[16:26] <Daviey> ..
[16:26] <hallyn> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (NCommander)
[16:26] <hallyn> (should we swap in rbasak for that?)
[16:27] <hallyn> i'll take that as a yes, and ask rbasak: any other arm related news?
[16:27] <hallyn> (rbasak: you interface regularly with NCommander?)
[16:28] <rbasak> OK, I'll check with NCommander in the weekly ARM meeting, I can swap Daviey for rbasak in their agenda too
[16:29] <hallyn> hm, well moving on
[16:29] <hallyn> oops
[16:29] <hallyn> rbasak: thanks
[16:29] <rbasak> No news as far as I'm aware. I'll test precise on a panda this week
[16:30] <hallyn> #action hallyn to swap rbasak for NCommander in arm agenda section
[16:30] <meetingology> ACTION: hallyn to swap rbasak for NCommander in arm agenda section
[16:30] <hallyn> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions from the Ubuntu Community
[16:31] <hallyn> moving on,
[16:31] <hallyn> #topic Open Discussion
[16:31] <rbasak> bug 858878 - RoAkSoAx, where are we with that?
[16:32] <rbasak> (this is for the SRU rather than Precise)
[16:32] <RoAkSoAx> rbasak: so changes were uncommitted as the security process is different, so really there's nothing I can do
[16:32] <adam_g> zul: when is the next openstack snapshot going out?
[16:32] <RoAkSoAx> rbasak: as it is a security update not an SRU
[16:32] <rbasak> OK, so does someone else need to sponsor it?
[16:32] <RoAkSoAx> rbasak: uyes someone from the security team
[16:33] <zul> adam_g: friday
[16:33] <RoAkSoAx> rbasak: I can'
[16:33] <rbasak> or are we just waiting on the security team?
[16:33] <rbasak> OK I'll poke them, thanks
[16:33] <Daviey> rbasak: is there a prepped security update?
[16:33] <RoAkSoAx> rbasak: I can't recall who was helping me on that and said that he will push it thru, but then I went on holidays and forgot, sorry :(
[16:33] <adam_g> zul: any chance it can roast for a day or two in a PPA first?
[16:33] <rbasak> Daviey: yes, except that I need to change the pocket presumably
[16:34] <rbasak> Daviey: lp:~racb/ubuntu/oneiric/cobbler/security_201112
[16:34] <zul> adam_g: sure i can let it stew in a ppa by thursday
[16:35] <adam_g> zul: if you can let it simmer there, that'd be cool. we can boil out any bugs before end of week so we're in good shape in budapest
[16:35] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: rbasak I think its wise to check the security ppa, cause, AFAIK, it was supposed to hit the PPA in order to test, and I was gonna be ping to do so
[16:35] <rbasak> ah, the pocket is correct. so just waiting for sponsor/review
[16:35] <zul> adam_g: no worries
[16:35] <hallyn> all right, moving on,
[16:35] <hallyn> #topic Announce next meeting date and time
[16:36] <hallyn> none next week i assume, so
[16:36] <hallyn> Tuesday, Jan 17 at 16:00 UTC
[16:36] <hallyn> thanks, all
[16:36] <hallyn> #endmeeting
[16:36] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jan  3 16:36:15 2012 UTC.
[16:36] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-01-03-16.00.moin.txt
[16:48] <RoAkSoAx>   /win 3
[16:59] <jsalisbury> Roll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting
[16:59] <cking> o/
[16:59] <ogasawara> o/
[16:59] <apw> o/
[16:59] <kamal> o/
[16:59] <arges> o/
[16:59] <ppisati> o/
[16:59] <tgardner> o/
[16:59] <sforshee> o/
[17:00] <herton> o/
[17:00] <jsalisbury> #startmeeting
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting.
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jan  3 17:00:05 2012 UTC.  The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
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[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Precise
[17:00] <jsalisbury> # Meeting Etiquette
[17:00] <jsalisbury> #
[17:00] <jsalisbury> # NOTE: '..' indicates that you are finished with your input.
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[17:00] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)
[17:00] <ppisati> P/omap4: nothing new to report this week.
[17:00] <ppisati> ..
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)
[17:00] <jsalisbury> Release metrics and incomming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt
[17:01] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)
[17:01] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-kernel-team-precise-alpha-2.html
[17:01] <ogasawara> || apw        || hardware-p-kernel-boot                || 1 work item  ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> ||            || hardware-p-kernel-config-review       || 7 work items ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> ||            || hardware-p-kernel-delta-review        || 4 work items ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> ||            || foundations-p-ipv6                    || 1 work item  ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> || cking      || hardware-p-kernel-delta-review        || 1 work item  ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> || jsalisbury || other-p-bug-workflows                 || 1 work item  ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> || ogasawara  || hardware-p-kernel-version-and-flavors || 1 work item  ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> ||            || hardware-p-kernel-config-review       || 10 work items||
[17:01] <ogasawara> || tgardner   || hardware-p-kernel-delta-review        || 1 work item  ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> If your name is in the above table, please review your Alpha-2 work items.  Note that Alpha-2 is Thurs Feb 2.
[17:01] <ogasawara> ..
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Blueprint: hardware-p-kernel-power-management (cking)
[17:01] <cking> Power Management:
[17:01] <cking>  * Write up results from wake events analysis and file lots of bugs
[17:01] <cking>    http://zinc.canonical.com/~cking/power-benchmarking/events/
[17:01] <cking>  * Write cpustat: git://kernel.ubuntu.com/cking/cpustat.git
[17:01] <cking>    Test CPU utilization, results:
[17:01] <cking>    http://zinc.canonical.com/~cking/power-benchmarking/cpu/
[17:01] <cking>  * Investigate MSR_IA32_ENERGY_PERF_BIAS on sandybridge, no +ve results
[17:02] <cking>    need to rig up Ivybridge desktop to sanity check this.
[17:02] <cking>  * LP#911325 - new pm-utils scripts to save power
[17:02] <cking>  * Collect power measurements on Hardy, Lucid, Maverick, Natty, Oneiric, Precise
[17:02] <cking> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Precise Development Kernel (ogasawara)
[17:02] <ogasawara> Over the holiday break we rebased to v3.2-rc7 and uploaded.  Aside from that not much else has been done.
[17:02] <ogasawara> Important Upcoming Dates:
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * Thurs Feb 2 - Alpha 2 (~4 weeks)
[17:02] <ogasawara> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (apw)
[17:03] <apw> [17:03] <apw>  
[17:03] <apw> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt
[17:03] <apw>  
[17:03] <apw> Currently open CVEs for each supported branch:
[17:03] <apw>  
[17:03] <apw> || Package                                  || Open      ||
[17:03] <apw> ||                                          ||           ||
[17:03] <apw> || linux Hardy                              ||   10 (-3) ||
[17:03] <apw> || linux Lucid                              ||    7 (-3) ||
[17:03] <apw> || linux Maverick                           ||    8 (-2) ||
[17:03] <apw> || linux Natty                              ||    9 (-1) ||
[17:03] <apw> || linux Oneiric                            ||    7 (-1) ||
[17:03] <apw> || linux Precise                            ||    6 (-2) ||
[17:03] <apw> || linux-ec2 Lucid                          ||    7 (-3) ||
[17:03] <apw> || linux-fsl-imx51 Lucid                    ||    7 (-4) ||
[17:03] <apw> || linux-mvl-dove Lucid                     ||    7 (-3) ||
[17:03] <apw> || linux-mvl-dove Maverick                  ||    7 (-3) ||
[17:03] <apw> || linux-ti-omap4 Maverick                  ||    9 (-2) ||
[17:03] <apw> || linux-ti-omap4 Natty                     ||    9 (-1) ||
[17:03] <apw> || linux-ti-omap4 Oneiric                   ||    7 (-1) ||
[17:03] <apw> || linux-ti-omap4 Precise                   ||    6 (-2) ||
[17:03] <apw> || linux-lts-backport-maverick Lucid        ||    8 (-2) ||
[17:03] <apw> || linux-lts-backport-natty Lucid           ||    9 (-1) ||
[17:03] <apw> || linux-lts-backport-oneiric Lucid         ||    7 (-1) ||
[17:03] <apw>  
[17:03] <apw> We have had two new CVEs added to the matrix since the last report.  Two of those without upstream fixes have had those identified and have been triaged to specific releases.
[17:03] <apw>  
[17:03] <apw> ..
[17:04] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Oneiric/Natty/Maverick/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton)
[17:04] <bjf>  
[17:04] <bjf> Here is the status for the main kernels, until today (19/12):
[17:04] <bjf>  
[17:04] <bjf>  * Hardy - 2.6.24-30.98
[17:04] <bjf>   * New kernel, now in verification. Contains commits for 5 CVEs.
[17:04] <bjf>  
[17:04] <bjf>  * Lucid - 2.6.32-38.82
[17:04] <bjf>   * New kernel, waiting to be copied to -proposed. Contains a stable upstream
[17:04] <bjf>     release as well as some CVEs. This also turns CONFIG_NET_NS back on.
[17:04] <bjf>  
[17:04] <bjf>  * Maverick - 2.6.35-32.64
[17:04] <bjf>   * New kernel, waiting to be copied to -proposed. Contains a rare, stable
[17:04] <bjf>     upstream release as well as some CVEs.
[17:04] <bjf>  
[17:04] <bjf>  * Natty - 2.6.38-13.53
[17:04] <bjf>   * New kernel, now being built.
[17:04] <bjf>  
[17:04] <bjf>  * Oneiric - 3.0.0-15.25
[17:04] <bjf>   * New kernel, now in verification. A regression was identified in the
[17:04] <bjf>     previous -proposed kernel (bug 904569). The offending commit was reverted
[17:04] <bjf>     and this kernel produced.
[17:04] <bjf>  
[17:04] <bjf> Current opened tracking bugs details:
[17:04] <bjf>  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html
[17:05] <bjf>  
[17:05] <bjf> For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:
[17:05] <bjf>  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html
[17:05] <bjf>  
[17:05] <bjf> Future stable cadence cycles:
[17:05] <bjf>  * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseInterlock
[17:05] <bjf> ..
[17:05] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
[17:06] <jsalisbury> Thanks everyone
[17:06] <kamal> thanks jsalisbury
[17:06] <jsalisbury> #endmeeting
[17:06] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jan  3 17:06:55 2012 UTC.
[17:06] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-01-03-17.00.moin.txt
[19:25] <czajkowski> stgraber: ping
[20:06] <StefandeVries> Wasn't there supposed to be an EMEA meeting now?
[20:06] <drubin> StefandeVries: yes if we get enough members
[20:07] <leoquant> i thought so StefandeVries
[20:07] <czajkowski> I'm here
[20:07] <czajkowski> highvoltage: ogra_ stgraber
[20:08] <czajkowski> iulian: ping
[20:08] <czajkowski> commandoline: you here?
[20:09] <commandoline> I am
[20:09] <commandoline> hi
[20:09] <iulian> czajkowski: Here.
[20:09]  * ogra_ looks
[20:09] <drubin> that is 4 of us
[20:09] <czajkowski> right 4 of us and 1 candidate
[20:09] <czajkowski> lets get going shall we
[20:10] <czajkowski> #meeting
[20:10] <czajkowski> #startmeeting
[20:10] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jan  3 20:10:18 2012 UTC.  The chair is czajkowski. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
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[20:10] <czajkowski> commandoline: welcome
[20:10] <czajkowski> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/marten-de-vries
[20:10] <commandoline> thanks
[20:11] <czajkowski> commandoline: care to tell us a little about yourself
[20:11] <commandoline> Hello, I am Marten de Vries, and live in the Netherlands. My main Ubuntu contributions are in the Ubuntu Nederland loco team, mostly in its webteam and Mwanzo team. (The last of them helps users that want to start contributing to Ubuntu.)
[20:11]  * stgraber waves
[20:11] <czajkowski> drubin: iulian ogra_ stgraber thanks
[20:12] <czajkowski> commandoline: can you tell us some more about the Mwanzo team ?
[20:13] <drubin> o/
[20:13] <commandoline> Of course, it teaches Ubuntu users more about how to contribute to Ubuntu
[20:13] <commandoline> e.g. via workshops (like the international Ubuntu classroom project)
[20:13] <commandoline> but it's also the place where people are pointed to in the Dutch loco if they want to contribute but don't know how
[20:14] <commandoline> so to our IRC channel
[20:14] <czajkowski> commandoline: ca I ask why a seperate team from say the beginners team that already exists?
[20:14] <czajkowski> *can
[20:14] <commandoline> czajkowski: the difference is we support users in Dutch
[20:15] <commandoline> * help, my English isn't perfect either :P
[20:15] <czajkowski> that's fine
[20:15] <drubin> commandoline: How does working on open  teacher differ from your work with ubuntu?
[20:16] <commandoline> drubin: well, it's officially a separate project and this is about Ubuntu Membership. But of course it's in the repo's now thanks to porthose
[20:16] <commandoline> and it's also opensource software, of which all main devs are Ubuntu NL community members at the moment.
[20:17] <czajkowski> you mention the classroom project, do you see yourself getting more involved in the greater ubuntu wide community ?
[20:18] <commandoline> czajkowski: for you question: it's not just helping in Dutch by the way, but also that all the wiki pages etc. are in dutch
[20:18] <drubin> commandoline: that is why I asked how it differed. It is interesting to see how external projects make it into peoples work.
[20:18] <iulian> commandoline: Let's say that I'm a new Dutch user who wants to contribute to Ubuntu but my English is not that good. How can I get in touch with Mwanzo? Do you guys have a place where you advertise it? How would I become aware of its existence?
[20:18] <drubin> commandoline: Nice on it being a commnunity project.
[20:18]  * drubin is ready to vote btw
[20:18]  * ogra_ too,
[20:18] <commandoline> so you just don't need to know a word of English, which some people in the netherlands don't.
[20:18] <czajkowski> ogra_: stgraber iulian any more comments/questions?
[20:18] <commandoline> drubin: ok
[20:19]  * stgraber is ready to vote
[20:19] <Thomas_de_Graaff> \o/
[20:19] <commandoline> iulian: well, you probably would go to the Ubuntu NL Forum
[20:19] <commandoline> it's the place where most of the dutch community members are
[20:19] <commandoline> often to get support when installing e.g.
[20:19] <commandoline> there are links there to the mwanzo team
[20:20] <commandoline> and even a subforum where we advertise what we do
[20:20] <commandoline> so you'd see it via the dutch loco site
[20:20] <iulian> commandoline: OK, brill. Thanks.
[20:20] <iulian> czajkowski: Ready.
[20:20] <commandoline> and also via IRC, maybe
[20:20] <Ronnie> \o/
[20:20] <czajkowski> #vote please vote on the commandoline membership.
[20:20] <meetingology> Please vote on: please vote on the commandoline membership.
[20:20] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[20:20] <StefandeVries> \o/
[20:20] <czajkowski> +1
[20:20] <meetingology> +1 received from czajkowski
[20:20] <leoquant> \o/ for commandoline
[20:20] <stgraber> +1
[20:20] <meetingology> +1 received from stgraber
[20:20] <iulian> +1
[20:20] <meetingology> +1 received from iulian
[20:20] <ogra_> +1 (awesome testimonials, great to see such a big cheering crowd here)
[20:20] <meetingology> +1 (awesome testimonials, great to see such a big cheering crowd here) received from ogra_
[20:21] <drubin> +1
[20:21] <meetingology> +1 received from drubin
[20:21] <czajkowski> #endvote
[20:21] <meetingology> Voting ended on: please vote on the commandoline membership.
[20:21] <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:21] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:21] <CasW> By the way; I wanted to add a testimonial, too, but I couldn't find it (and I was in a hurry) ;)
[20:21] <drubin> i forgot you can include reasons with the new bot
[20:21] <ogra_> congrats commandoline
[20:21] <drubin> congrats commandoline
[20:21] <Thomas_de_Graaff> congrats commandoline :D
[20:21] <leoquant> great commandoline ! congrats
[20:21] <CasW> Congrats, commandoline! :D
[20:21] <StefandeVries> Congratulations, commandoline :)
[20:21] <czajkowski> congratulations
[20:21] <Ronnie> great work commandoline
[20:21] <commandoline> thanks EMEA membership board :)
[20:21] <iulian> Well done commandoline and keep up the good work.
[20:21] <commandoline> and thanks all supporters from the loco!
[20:22] <czajkowski> can someone add commandoline to the ubuntu members  please
[20:22] <czajkowski> I'm lagging here
[20:22] <toddy> Congratulations, commandoline :)
[20:22] <iulian> And get those new Dutch guys here!
[20:22] <czajkowski> #endmeeting
[20:22] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jan  3 20:22:19 2012 UTC.
[20:22] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-01-03-20.10.moin.txt
[20:22] <iulian> czajkowski: On it.
[20:22] <czajkowski> iulian: thanks
[20:22] <czajkowski> ogra_: iulian stgraber drubin thanks for coming folks
[20:22] <commandoline> iulian: on it :)
[20:23] <ogra_> czajkowski, thanks for leading :)
[20:23] <iulian> czajkowski: Done.
[20:23] <stgraber> czajkowski: thanks for chairing
[20:23] <czajkowski> no worries
[20:23] <drubin> commandoline: thank you
[20:23] <leoquant> thx board
[20:23] <czajkowski> can someone else do the mail to the CC
[20:23] <czajkowski> hands up
[20:23] <drubin> me now needs to go get ready for work.
[20:23] <czajkowski> before I nominate ;0
[20:23] <czajkowski> ;)
[20:23] <iulian> czajkowski: I think I know who you gonna nominate.
[20:24] <iulian> czajkowski: I'll take care of it.
[20:24] <czajkowski> iulian: thank you
[20:24] <czajkowski> toodles till next month
[20:25] <commandoline> bye
[20:25] <StefandeVries> Thanks, board :)
[20:25] <CasW> Yeah, thanks