[01:02] <Samuray> speak spanish?
[13:14] <stgraber> skaet, jibel: http://91.189.93.73/qatracker/reports/subscriptions <-- a tiny bit long but probably useful to spot what needs more testerss
[13:18] <jibel> stgraber, thanks. maybe you could remove the repeated headers to make it more dense. but that's a detail.
[13:20] <stgraber> jibel: yeah, I was worried it'd be hard to read if not splitting by product but I guess I could increase the SQL time by 50ms and split by product family, that should merge all of the upgrade one-row tables at least
[13:21] <stgraber> oh, actually I don't even need to add a join as I don't actually want to read the product family title, just grabbing the id is enough
[13:23] <stgraber> jibel: better?
[13:24] <jibel> stgraber, much better
[13:29] <skaet> stgraber,   very useful indeed.  :)   Thanks!
[15:04] <mvo> jibel: hi, thanks for #616721 - do you have a way to reproduce this ?
[15:04] <mvo> bug  #616721
[15:04] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 616721 in update-manager (Ubuntu Precise) (and 1 other project) "update-manager crashed with DBusException in update() (affects: 106) (dups: 45) (heat: 670)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/616721
[15:06] <jibel> mvo, I must verify, but I believe that's something like: try to install/remove an application with software-center, it fails (dbus timeout?), then update-manager cannot update the cache or install updates.
[15:09] <jibel> mvo, bug 849745 could be related too.
[15:09] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 849745 in software-center (Ubuntu Precise) (and 1 other project) "software-center crashed with DBusException in call_blocking(): org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. (affects: 106) (dups: 57) (heat: 566)" [High,Triaged]
[15:11] <mvo> jibel: thanks, I will poke around, but no luck so far
[15:13] <jibel> mvo, install a precise from the daily iso, open a terminal, run sudo aptd -drt, on another terminal run software-center, try to install an application -> fail, then run update-manager click on 'install updates' -> fail
[15:13] <jibel> it fails without restarting aptd too
[15:14] <mvo> let me rsync a new image
[15:14] <mvo> fails to fail on my "regular" upgraded precise
[15:14] <jibel> mvo, if you reboot and run update-manager directly it works, that's what make me think software-center breaks something in dbus.
[15:16] <jibel> mvo, I can't install/remove anything with sc on my system, let me know if I can provide any useful debug information
[15:16] <mvo> jibel: thanks, this works for me
[15:16] <mvo> jibel: do you get a polkit prompt at all?
[15:17] <jibel> mvo, no
[15:18] <mvo> I suspect its this polkit stuff in some way, but I don't really know until I can reproduce it
[15:18] <mvo> jibel: what do you get from aptdaemon if you start it before firing up u-m/sc ?
[15:19] <mvo> jibel: the error in the bugreport indicates that you try to replace it when its already in a odd (crashed?) state
[15:20] <jibel> mvo, I'll restart my session to make sure the state is clean. brb
[15:22] <mvo> thanks
[15:25] <mvo> hrm, hrm, #907568 looks like a PITA - deep deep in the webkit stuff
[15:26] <jibel> back. I'm far from a 10s boot time ;)
[15:27] <jibel> mvo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/791746/
[15:28] <jibel> mvo, I tried to install gtimer with sc
[15:28] <mvo> jibel: and at this point you get the errors?
[15:29] <jibel> mvo, no nothing happens. the 'install' button changes to 'disabled' and nothing
[15:30] <jibel> mvo, this is exactly the same symptoms on a fresh install
[15:32] <mvo> ok, thanks!
[15:41] <jibel> mvo, then if I check for updates in update-manager it fails with bug 616721 after a couple of minutes
[15:41] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 616721 in update-manager (Ubuntu Precise) (and 1 other project) "update-manager crashed with DBusException in update() (affects: 106) (dups: 45) (heat: 670)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/616721
[15:42] <jibel> but if I do a cache update in update-manager before using software-center it works
[15:55] <mvo> my image is now downloaded, I test in the live session
[15:56] <mvo> jibel: !!! I can reproduce it now in the live environment
[15:58] <jibel> mvo, great \o/
[16:08] <mvo> jibel: so I uploaded a new aptdaemon earlier today, if you update, is the bug still there?
[16:33] <jibel> mvo, I cannot reproduce the bug with aptd 0.43+bzr756-0ubuntu1. What do you think we should do with the 2  bug reports, they look like catch all reports for any dbus related issue.
[16:34] <jibel> mvo, isn't there a nicer way to notify the user in both sc and um than crashing ?
[16:36] <mvo> let me think about it, but its not crashing as such, its more that there is no reply and the client can only guess why not (crash, hang, endless loop, etc)
[18:03] <skaet> jibel,  has anyone tested the latest daily wubi?   I was trying to do a clean install on a netbook over the holidays and it looks weird.  Any bugs open on the subject you know about?
[18:36] <jibel> skaet, I haven't tested it recently and the recent bugs are against Oneiric. How weird is weird ?
[18:36] <jibel> (and happy new year:))
[18:48] <skaet> happy new year jibel :)
[18:49] <skaet> weird as in downloading the precise wubi image from the dailies, under windows, gave me a i386.tar.tar which I hadn't seen before.