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nuvolarihappy new year everyone :)06:08
inetprogood morning06:22
inetprowb nuvolari06:22
nuvolarithanks!06:25
nuvolariso how's the new year?06:26
* nuvolari wish the holiday was as little bit longer :'(06:26
inetpronuvolari: time to start working again06:36
inetproholidays are always to short06:37
inetprotime to accept that and plan the next one06:37
inetproanyone know whether something changed with samba/smbmount in recent times? 07:03
inetprosuddenly a script to mount my windows drives no longer works07:03
inetprobeen working for years07:03
* superfly hasn't used smb in years07:04
inetprothe following command just returns mount error(13): Permission denied07:05
inetprosmbmount //winserver/myshare /net/windrive -o username=myuser,domain=DOMAIN,uid=myuser,gid=myuser,rw07:05
inetproand; Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)07:05
inetproand the folder permissions are still the same and I'm still doing it as the root user as always07:07
inetprothe file /sbin/mount.smbfs was updated on 30/11/2011 and it's possible that I haven't mounted the drives since that time07:10
inetproand /sbin/mount.cifs07:11
inetprooops, those files where last updated on 2011-09-30 and not 2011-11-3007:46
inetprovery strange07:46
nuvolariinetpro: ya, the working year started in full burst07:47
nuvolariVoorspoed vir die nuwe jaar MeesterArend 07:48
inetpronuvolari: yep, same here and I have not even had coffee yet07:48
nuvolari:P I made sure I got coffee07:51
* inetpro will have to go buy some milk07:52
inetproand clean the kettle07:52
MeesterArendtnx nuvolari same to u 08:01
MeesterArendits quiet here it would seem08:02
Kilosmorning all08:19
Kilosmôre MeesterArend 08:20
KilosMaaz, lets08:21
MaazKilos: lets have some coffee08:21
nuvolarihi oom Kilos!08:21
KilosMaaz, coffee on08:21
* Maaz washes some mugs08:21
nuvolarivoorspoed vir die jaar oom!08:22
Kiloslo nuvolari  jy net betyds vir koffie08:22
Kilosdankie seun, selle vir jou , groot voorspoed08:22
Kilosek het bietjie hulp nodig, my iftop maak nog steeds oop en se dit lees eth0 maar wys niks van die data wat vloei nie08:24
Kiloskon die eth0 verander het?08:24
Kilosmodem steeds in selle usb08:24
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos!08:25
KilosMaaz, ty08:26
MaazYou are welcome Kilos08:26
nlsthznMorning all08:29
inetproKilos: goeie more08:32
Kilosmore goosie08:32
Kiloshehe08:32
inetproKilos: jou data vloei seker nie op eth0 nie maar op ppp008:33
Kiloshey nlsthzn welcome back08:33
nlsthznThanks uncle Kilos... good to be back :)08:33
inetproKilos: man iftop08:34
inetproKilos: kyk met 'ifconfig -a' watter "interfaces" jy het08:35
Kiloslol inetpro  ek het dit al baie gelees maar kannie verstaan hoekom iftop ewe skielik opgehou werk het nie08:35
inetproKilos: iftop -i ppp008:36
inetproKilos: etho is vir 'n ethernet kabel konneksie08:36
inetproeth0*08:36
inetprotipies vir 'n lokale area netwerk (LAN)08:37
Kilosdit werk weer dankie inetpro , wat kon dit verander het?08:37
inetprojy't seker net vergeet van '-i ppp0' ?08:38
Kilosdit het sommer opgehou  terwyl dit nog besig was om te lees08:38
inetprohmm...08:39
Kilosek het vergeet van ppp0 ja. maar dit was lank terug en het gewerk nog al die tyd08:40
Kilosgrrr08:41
Kilosspoke08:41
Kilosdankie weer boetie, sien julle vanaand09:08
inetproKilos: lekker dag09:08
Kilosdankie, jy ook09:08
Kilosinetpro, if you have some time tell me how to edit or what to edit to make iftop see ppp0 on booting please13:21
Kilosi dont find it in .conf13:21
Kilosit goes back to ewth0 on booting13:22
Kilossjoe13:22
Kiloseth013:22
Kilosi dont find a conf file in /usr/share/doc/iftop13:30
inetproKilos: you can set some config stuff in a file called ~/.iftoprc13:31
inetprobut since it is a command which needs to run as the superuser you may need to create that in the /root folder13:32
inetprodo the following: 13:32
inetproecho interface: ppp0 | sudo tee -a /root/.iftoprc13:32
Kilossjoe ty sir13:33
inetprothat should create the file if it doesn't exist and add the correct value in it13:33
Kilosbaie dankie13:33
inetproand if it exists it will just append13:33
* Kilos still wonders what could have gone and changed it13:33
inetproyou may also want to set other values like: 13:36
inetprodns-resolution: no13:36
inetproport-resolution: no13:36
inetproline-display: one-line-both13:36
inetproshow-totals: yes13:36
Kiloshuh13:36
Kiloswhere?13:36
inetprothose are very useful in my eyes and are what I have in my config file13:36
inetproinside that file /root/.iftopr13:37
inetproinside that file /root/.iftoprc13:37
Kilosok will go see13:37
inetprobut you may disagree with me about 'line-display: one-line-both'13:38
Kilosthat command with the pipe in doesnt complete13:38
Kilosthe echo one13:38
inetprobecause sometimes it is useful to see both 13:38
inetprohuh13:39
inetproKilos: are you sure?13:39
Kilosmiles@P4:/usr/share/doc/iftop$ cd13:39
Kilosmiles@P4:~$ sudo echo interface: ppp0 | sudo tee -a /root/.iftoprc13:39
Kilos[sudo] password for miles: [sudo] password for miles: 13:39
Kilosasked for password twice13:39
Kilosand just shows a flashing cursor13:40
inetproyou must put your password like with any sudo command13:40
Kilosi did13:40
Kilosbut it doesnt go back to prompt13:41
inetprohang on13:41
inetproKilos: did I say sudo twice?13:42
Kilossec13:42
Kilosecho interface: ppp0 | sudo tee -a /root/.iftoprc13:42
Kilosim the fool13:43
Kilosso used to peeps leaving sudo out that it has almost become habid to add it13:43
Kilossorry boss13:43
* inetpro lol13:43
inetproKilos: cat /root/.iftoprc13:44
Kiloswhat did that do?13:45
inetprothat is to display the contents Kilos13:45
Kilosnothing came13:45
inetprobut you can go edit that file with your favourite editor and add those other values13:46
inetprohmm..13:46
inetprotry that command again13:46
Kilosmiles@P4:~$ cat /root/.iftoprc13:46
Kiloscat: /root/.iftoprc: Permission denied13:46
Kilosmiles@P4:~$ sudo cat /root/.iftoprc13:46
Kilos[sudo] password for miles: 13:46
Kilosmiles@P4:~$ 13:46
Kiloshehe13:46
inetprodid it even create the file?13:47
Kilos?13:47
inetproyikes! Perhaps you don't have the tee command installed13:48
inetprocomes with the coreutils package13:48
Kiloshow big is it\13:48
Kilosi look in synaptic so long13:49
inetprobut there's more than one way to do it13:49
inetprosudo bash -c "echo interface: ppp0 >> /root/.iftoprc"13:49
inetproyou don't need tee just for such simple action13:49
Kilosi have coreutils13:50
inetprohmm...13:50
inetproanyway, you go play, it's really simple13:51
inetprojust create that file and put those values in there13:51
Kiloslol that command does the same , shows nothing13:51
inetproai13:51
Kilosok i will see what i can sort out13:51
inetproKilos: ls -la /root13:52
Kilosill open my channel quick and paste there ok?13:53
inetproKilos: hang on13:53
inetproI think you can even create that file simply in your own home directory13:54
* Kilos hangs13:54
inetproso just ~/.iftoprc13:54
inetprowithout needing sudo but still execute iftop with sudo13:54
Kilosmiles@P4:~$ ~/.iftoprc13:55
Kilosbash: /home/miles/.iftoprc: No such file or directory13:55
inetproecho interface: ppp0 >> ~/.iftoprc13:56
inetprowithout sudo13:56
Kiloshas that done something13:57
inetprocat ~/.iftoprc13:58
inetprothen try: sudo iftop13:59
inetprowithout the extra parameters13:59
Kilosmiles@P4:~$ cat ~/.iftoprc13:59
Kilosinterface: ppp013:59
Kilosthat did something13:59
inetproKilos: and?14:00
Kiloswill need to reboot to see if it remembers ppp014:00
inetprono14:01
inetpronot needed14:01
Kilosoh14:01
inetproof course it will remember14:01
Kiloshaha14:01
inetpronow go add the other stuffs14:01
inetproecho -e "dns-resolution: no\nport-resolution: no\nline-display: one-line-both\nshow-totals: yes" >> ~/.iftoprc14:01
inetproit will only forget that if you remove the file again14:02
Kilosthat long command showed nothing14:02
MeesterArendHow great a challange do i have...14:02
inetprobecause the output is redirected to file14:02
Kilosyay14:03
MeesterArendI need to crack the open passwords14:03
MeesterArendon 3 ms office 2007 file14:03
MeesterArend2 docx14:03
MeesterArendand 1 xlsx14:03
MeesterArendany ideas14:03
MeesterArend?14:03
inetproMeesterArend: forget it, go find the password14:03
inetproit will be easier14:04
inetproor find the original content and rewrite14:04
MeesterArendwell the person whos docs it is apparently went away from our office14:04
MeesterArendpermanently14:04
Kiloseish14:04
MeesterArendye14:04
MeesterArendwhat i thought14:05
KilosMeesterArend, can you copy them to somewhere else and then try opening14:05
MeesterArendone option in some cracking software statesabbout 200 m years14:05
MeesterArendI tried note pad14:05
MeesterArendnot readable14:06
Kilostry open with14:06
MeesterArendand my office pc hang about 10k password in 14:06
Kilosand there is something in office i think it was called express14:06
Kilosused that to open some notepad and wordpad wouldnt 14:07
MeesterArendoutlook?14:07
Kilosno there are some choices if you right click and saay open with14:07
Kilosbeen a while14:08
MeesterArenda14:08
MeesterArendnope14:08
Kilosit was one of the office goodies14:08
MeesterArendi tried what i hade14:08
MeesterArendbut i'll keep trying anyway14:08
Kilosgood luck14:08
Kilosi will try member what that was in the open with14:09
MeesterArendThe problem is it's probably a sotho word to 14:09
Kilosexcell maybe14:09
inetproMeesterArend: http://lastbit.com/office2007password.asp14:09
MeesterArendnope encrypted14:09
inetprowhile you could recover forgotten passwords for Office 2002, 2003 documents using our Guaranteed Recovery or Express Recovery technologies, in Office 2007 these cheap and quick document access recovery methods will not work, sorry.14:09
MeesterArendi saw that link :D14:10
inetpro...protection of documents is finally done competently...14:10
MeesterArendit would seem so14:10
MeesterArendany one have a masive serverr farm i may use for a few years to crac these?14:10
inetprolol14:11
MeesterArend:)14:11
Kiloshehe14:11
MeesterArendI'm thinking to go cluster here14:11
MeesterArendjust maybe i can crack it then14:11
* nuvolari feels like strangling google14:12
MeesterArendproblem is getting the pc's for the cluster :)14:12
MeesterArendgood idea14:12
nuvolarinot because of their service, because of GWT14:13
KilosGWT?14:13
nuvolariGoogle Web Toolkit14:13
nuvolari'n ding wat mens help (pfft, help se moses) om web apps te maak oom Kilos 14:14
inetproKilos: did you see what those options did to iftop?14:14
Kilosinetpro, nope14:15
Kiloslooks the same14:15
inetprohmm....14:15
inetproit's not exactly the same14:15
Kiloswhats different14:15
inetprodns-resolution: no  << will no longer show names but just IP addresses14:16
inetproport-resolution: no  << same as above but only for ports14:16
Kiloshaha it used to show ip addresses and now shows names14:17
Kilosha ha14:17
Kilosi see the diffs14:17
inetproline-display: one-line-both  << will show in and out traffic in one line in stead of default two lines14:17
inetproshow-totals: yes  << will show you an additional column14:18
inetproKilos: press ? while inside iftop for more help14:19
nuvolariKilos: gebruik oom nog vodacom?14:19
Kilosja nuvolari 14:19
Kilosty inetpro i am just happy its working again14:19
MeesterArendfound something gpu.sourceforge.net looks easy enough14:20
Kiloshulle het hulle se toring mooi reg gemaak en bou n nuwe ene 5 ks van hier af wat met optic fibres gaan werk se hulle14:20
Kiloshulle se dis die ou torings wat telkom lyne gebruik wat so stadig is14:22
Kilosinetpro, have you checked if you get a mtn signal better than your voda one at home14:24
Kilosthen you could try 8ta there14:24
inetproKilos: I guess I should14:24
inetprobut last time I tried 8ta it was very unstable14:24
inetpromuch worse than voda14:25
Kilosian got me airtime for 8ta last month and it works ok here but limited to the mtn edge14:25
inetprothat is just not good enough for me14:25
Kilosyeah but that depends on what your mtn tower can supply14:26
Kilosthey have 3g towers as well14:26
Kilosyou might be lucky14:26
inetproI doubt but I should perhaps try again14:27
inetprosadly a simple test costs money as well14:27
Kilosdont you know anyone with a mtn fone?14:27
Kilosget them to visit you and see what tower it picks up from and then ask mtn what speed tower it is14:28
inetproI might still have a sim but with no airtime on it14:28
Kilosor put a mtn sim in your modem14:29
inetproI used to be on MTN14:29
Kiloslol they got R10 airtimes14:29
Kilosworth the chance14:29
Kilosmaybe even R5 ones14:30
inetproat this stage I can live with voda's specials and a little bit on instability here and there14:30
Kilosok14:30
inetproMTN airtime is a ripoff14:30
inetprodata bundles*14:30
Kilosi havent had one for a longish time but 8ta got 100m for R5014:31
Kilosand 8ta rooams withs mtn14:31
Kilosroam?14:31
Kilosdaai ding14:31
inetproKilos: that is ridiculous14:32
inetproR50 for 100MB = 50c per MB14:32
inetproall data should be below 10c per MB at this stage14:33
inetprowb morgs14:33
Kilosyo morgs 14:34
morgshi14:34
Kilosvoda coms 100m is R4914:34
inetproKilos: I get very angry at these guys ripping of especially the poor14:34
inetprobecause those who can afford it will go for higher bundles14:35
Kilosyip the smaller the bundles the more expensive14:35
inetproand get it at cheaper rates14:35
inetproand the poor who can not afford it will always pay the higher price14:35
Kilosthats because there are more poor peeps14:35
inetproKilos: they are stealing your milk out of your tea14:36
Kiloslol and half the sugar14:36
inetproexactly14:36
Kilosthats why i was happy thinking i was gonna get that 500m and them other swines came and stole half14:37
Kilosthe new way of looking at things is that i am lucky they didnt steal it all14:37
inetproKilos: it is about time that we stand up and tell them that this is not acceptable14:38
Kilosyip im with you14:38
inetproin my humble opinion all prepaid should always be cheaper14:38
Kilosyeah i agree14:39
Kilosi laugh at some of the adds on the idiot box advertising broadband, they offer this and that and free 10m data a month for a year14:40
inetproit's total madness 14:40
Kilos10m is nothing unless its only for use on a cell14:40
Kilosage old saying. Bullshit baffles brains14:41
Kilosi have used 411k here since i came on14:44
Kilosthat why i been coming on for a while in the morning and then at night14:45
inetprofor starters I think the consumer act should also apply to data bundles14:45
Kilosfind who to mail and we can all mail them14:46
inetproat least expiry of airtime has been extended but data should also carry over if it's unused14:46
Kilosyeah14:46
Kilosand voda should let their data go from the date bought for 2 months like the others14:47
Kilosnot just till end of next calender month14:47
inetproI hate to admit this but I just lost about 1GB on my phone because it expired on Sunday morning14:47
Kilosouch14:47
* Kilos cries with you14:47
Kiloshey doesnt going in as root on winsucks give you access to everything on it?14:48
inetproKilos: I would even have transferred it to you if I could because I went very easy with my data for two months14:48
Kiloslol14:49
Kilosthey only allow airtime transfer14:49
inetproI purchased the 2GB bundle when I wasn't sure how much I would use at that stage14:49
Kilosthat bundle is actually reasonable14:50
Kilosaround 20c a meg i think14:50
* nuvolari is a data junkie14:57
nuvolari:-/ hooked on the stuff14:57
Kiloslol15:00
Kiloshi Mezenir 15:03
Mezenirhihi15:03
Mezenirhow goes15:03
Kilosgood ty and you15:03
Mezenirok considering work started again today15:04
Kiloslol15:04
Mezeniri need a holiday to recover from my holiday15:04
Mezenirbut yah pretty good :)15:05
Mezeniru ?15:05
Kilosi too old to work 15:07
Kilosor have tiring holidays15:07
inetproKilos: at 2.4c per MB you should get the 20GB bundle if in any way possible now before the offer expires on Monday next week15:08
Kiloslol15:08
Kilosand expires in 2 months?15:08
inetprowell if you buy now it will last until end of Feb15:09
Kilosinternet too slow to use all of that in 2 months15:09
Kilos2g used to be lekker for 2 months15:09
Kilosused to download lots15:10
inetproI'm seriously hoping that they will come with a new offer soon, perhaps not as cheap as the 20GB but they just have to come down in price 15:14
Kilosthey will hold prices up as long as possible and come down bit by bit just to match or slightly undercut the other service providers15:15
EtherionHi guys15:27
Kiloshi Etherion 15:28
nuvolariok, home time15:29
nuvolario/15:29
EtherionIts zeref15:29
Kilosgo safe nuvolari 15:29
nuvolariwill do oom :)15:30
nuvolario/ Etherion 15:30
Kilosha ha whats with the new nick Etherion 15:30
Etherionnah, i'm on my phone, on my way back to res, to b reunited witn comp15:31
Kilosgood15:31
Kilosyou shoulda made it zeref.mobi15:32
Etherionhavnt been here for a while, miss anything?15:32
EtherionLol15:32
Kilosno its been very quiet and only few guys through the festive season15:32
EtherionAh, i dont remember new yrs day, lol15:33
EtherionWit did u get up to kilos?15:34
Kilosor the headache on the 2nd15:34
Kilosnothing lad. every day same here15:34
EtherionSanta bring u no gifts 15:36
Kiloslol na15:36
Kilosactually i lie15:36
Kilosboet gave me R160 airtime for data15:37
Kilosbut half was stolen off fone before i wanted to use it on the first15:37
EtherionO0o015:38
Kilosbut we found the culprit just dunno how to squeeze them for a refund15:38
Kilosyou know those smses you get saying "you are subscribed to"15:40
EtherionCell c, gave us 1gb to use in one day. With speeds of 1.2kb15:40
Kilosand sms stop to such and such a number to unsub15:40
Kilos1.2kb doesnt give you much 15:41
EtherionAh, i remember those things15:41
Kilosand i didnt ever see the sms because nm doesnt get smses15:41
EtherionI only managed to use 20mb, lol15:42
Kilosevil swines15:42
Kilosmtn has/had a package as well for R50 uncapped for a day15:42
EtherionLOL15:42
Kilosbut limited to 128k after a certain amount of downloads15:43
Kilosthink i managed about 680m15:43
Kilosthat was like 3 months back i think15:44
EtherionO0o015:44
Kilossorry 128k/s15:46
Kilosbut my mtn tower is an edge tower so if you get 40kB/s you smile15:46
Etherion:-)15:48
EtherionAh, bus is leaving. Should another 4 hrs left15:48
EtherionK, i'm out. Cheers15:49
Kilosbbl15:53
Kilosevening peeps18:15
Kilosinetpro, all daai iftop settings het ingekom na n reboot dankie18:18
Kiloslyk heel beter18:20
Kilosnight all , see ya morrow18:30
DraZoroCompliments for 2012. How are you doing guys ?20:38
superflyhey DraZoro20:39
DraZoroHello superfly 20:40
superflyhow goes DraZoro?20:40
DraZorosuperfly, One of my plans is to start contributing on bugs report. 20:43
superflycool20:43
zerefhmmm21:18

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