[06:08] <nuvolari> happy new year everyone :)
[06:22] <inetpro> good morning
[06:22] <inetpro> wb nuvolari
[06:25] <nuvolari> thanks!
[06:26] <nuvolari> so how's the new year?
[06:26]  * nuvolari wish the holiday was as little bit longer :'(
[06:36] <inetpro> nuvolari: time to start working again
[06:37] <inetpro> holidays are always to short
[06:37] <inetpro> time to accept that and plan the next one
[07:03] <inetpro> anyone know whether something changed with samba/smbmount in recent times? 
[07:03] <inetpro> suddenly a script to mount my windows drives no longer works
[07:03] <inetpro> been working for years
[07:04]  * superfly hasn't used smb in years
[07:05] <inetpro> the following command just returns mount error(13): Permission denied
[07:05] <inetpro> smbmount //winserver/myshare /net/windrive -o username=myuser,domain=DOMAIN,uid=myuser,gid=myuser,rw
[07:05] <inetpro> and; Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)
[07:07] <inetpro> and the folder permissions are still the same and I'm still doing it as the root user as always
[07:10] <inetpro> the file /sbin/mount.smbfs was updated on 30/11/2011 and it's possible that I haven't mounted the drives since that time
[07:11] <inetpro> and /sbin/mount.cifs
[07:46] <inetpro> oops, those files where last updated on 2011-09-30 and not 2011-11-30
[07:46] <inetpro> very strange
[07:47] <nuvolari> inetpro: ya, the working year started in full burst
[07:48] <nuvolari> Voorspoed vir die nuwe jaar MeesterArend 
[07:48] <inetpro> nuvolari: yep, same here and I have not even had coffee yet
[07:51] <nuvolari> :P I made sure I got coffee
[07:52]  * inetpro will have to go buy some milk
[07:52] <inetpro> and clean the kettle
[08:01] <MeesterArend> tnx nuvolari same to u 
[08:02] <MeesterArend> its quiet here it would seem
[08:19] <Kilos> morning all
[08:20] <Kilos> môre MeesterArend 
[08:21] <Kilos> Maaz, lets
[08:21] <Maaz> Kilos: lets have some coffee
[08:21] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos!
[08:21] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[08:21]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[08:22] <nuvolari> voorspoed vir die jaar oom!
[08:22] <Kilos> lo nuvolari  jy net betyds vir koffie
[08:22] <Kilos> dankie seun, selle vir jou , groot voorspoed
[08:24] <Kilos> ek het bietjie hulp nodig, my iftop maak nog steeds oop en se dit lees eth0 maar wys niks van die data wat vloei nie
[08:24] <Kilos> kon die eth0 verander het?
[08:24] <Kilos> modem steeds in selle usb
[08:25] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[08:26] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[08:26] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[08:29] <nlsthzn> Morning all
[08:32] <inetpro> Kilos: goeie more
[08:32] <Kilos> more goosie
[08:32] <Kilos> hehe
[08:33] <inetpro> Kilos: jou data vloei seker nie op eth0 nie maar op ppp0
[08:33] <Kilos> hey nlsthzn welcome back
[08:33] <nlsthzn> Thanks uncle Kilos... good to be back :)
[08:34] <inetpro> Kilos: man iftop
[08:35] <inetpro> Kilos: kyk met 'ifconfig -a' watter "interfaces" jy het
[08:35] <Kilos> lol inetpro  ek het dit al baie gelees maar kannie verstaan hoekom iftop ewe skielik opgehou werk het nie
[08:36] <inetpro> Kilos: iftop -i ppp0
[08:36] <inetpro> Kilos: etho is vir 'n ethernet kabel konneksie
[08:36] <inetpro> eth0*
[08:37] <inetpro> tipies vir 'n lokale area netwerk (LAN)
[08:37] <Kilos> dit werk weer dankie inetpro , wat kon dit verander het?
[08:38] <inetpro> jy't seker net vergeet van '-i ppp0' ?
[08:38] <Kilos> dit het sommer opgehou  terwyl dit nog besig was om te lees
[08:39] <inetpro> hmm...
[08:40] <Kilos> ek het vergeet van ppp0 ja. maar dit was lank terug en het gewerk nog al die tyd
[08:41] <Kilos> grrr
[08:41] <Kilos> spoke
[09:08] <Kilos> dankie weer boetie, sien julle vanaand
[09:08] <inetpro> Kilos: lekker dag
[09:08] <Kilos> dankie, jy ook
[13:21] <Kilos> inetpro, if you have some time tell me how to edit or what to edit to make iftop see ppp0 on booting please
[13:21] <Kilos> i dont find it in .conf
[13:22] <Kilos> it goes back to ewth0 on booting
[13:22] <Kilos> sjoe
[13:22] <Kilos> eth0
[13:30] <Kilos> i dont find a conf file in /usr/share/doc/iftop
[13:31] <inetpro> Kilos: you can set some config stuff in a file called ~/.iftoprc
[13:32] <inetpro> but since it is a command which needs to run as the superuser you may need to create that in the /root folder
[13:32] <inetpro> do the following: 
[13:32] <inetpro> echo interface: ppp0 | sudo tee -a /root/.iftoprc
[13:33] <Kilos> sjoe ty sir
[13:33] <inetpro> that should create the file if it doesn't exist and add the correct value in it
[13:33] <Kilos> baie dankie
[13:33] <inetpro> and if it exists it will just append
[13:33]  * Kilos still wonders what could have gone and changed it
[13:36] <inetpro> you may also want to set other values like: 
[13:36] <inetpro> dns-resolution: no
[13:36] <inetpro> port-resolution: no
[13:36] <inetpro> line-display: one-line-both
[13:36] <inetpro> show-totals: yes
[13:36] <Kilos> huh
[13:36] <Kilos> where?
[13:36] <inetpro> those are very useful in my eyes and are what I have in my config file
[13:37] <inetpro> inside that file /root/.iftopr
[13:37] <inetpro> inside that file /root/.iftoprc
[13:37] <Kilos> ok will go see
[13:38] <inetpro> but you may disagree with me about 'line-display: one-line-both'
[13:38] <Kilos> that command with the pipe in doesnt complete
[13:38] <Kilos> the echo one
[13:38] <inetpro> because sometimes it is useful to see both 
[13:39] <inetpro> huh
[13:39] <inetpro> Kilos: are you sure?
[13:39] <Kilos> miles@P4:/usr/share/doc/iftop$ cd
[13:39] <Kilos> miles@P4:~$ sudo echo interface: ppp0 | sudo tee -a /root/.iftoprc
[13:39] <Kilos> [sudo] password for miles: [sudo] password for miles: 
[13:39] <Kilos> asked for password twice
[13:40] <Kilos> and just shows a flashing cursor
[13:40] <inetpro> you must put your password like with any sudo command
[13:40] <Kilos> i did
[13:41] <Kilos> but it doesnt go back to prompt
[13:41] <inetpro> hang on
[13:42] <inetpro> Kilos: did I say sudo twice?
[13:42] <Kilos> sec
[13:42] <Kilos> echo interface: ppp0 | sudo tee -a /root/.iftoprc
[13:43] <Kilos> im the fool
[13:43] <Kilos> so used to peeps leaving sudo out that it has almost become habid to add it
[13:43] <Kilos> sorry boss
[13:43]  * inetpro lol
[13:44] <inetpro> Kilos: cat /root/.iftoprc
[13:45] <Kilos> what did that do?
[13:45] <inetpro> that is to display the contents Kilos
[13:45] <Kilos> nothing came
[13:46] <inetpro> but you can go edit that file with your favourite editor and add those other values
[13:46] <inetpro> hmm..
[13:46] <inetpro> try that command again
[13:46] <Kilos> miles@P4:~$ cat /root/.iftoprc
[13:46] <Kilos> cat: /root/.iftoprc: Permission denied
[13:46] <Kilos> miles@P4:~$ sudo cat /root/.iftoprc
[13:46] <Kilos> [sudo] password for miles: 
[13:46] <Kilos> miles@P4:~$ 
[13:46] <Kilos> hehe
[13:47] <inetpro> did it even create the file?
[13:47] <Kilos> ?
[13:48] <inetpro> yikes! Perhaps you don't have the tee command installed
[13:48] <inetpro> comes with the coreutils package
[13:48] <Kilos> how big is it\
[13:49] <Kilos> i look in synaptic so long
[13:49] <inetpro> but there's more than one way to do it
[13:49] <inetpro> sudo bash -c "echo interface: ppp0 >> /root/.iftoprc"
[13:49] <inetpro> you don't need tee just for such simple action
[13:50] <Kilos> i have coreutils
[13:50] <inetpro> hmm...
[13:51] <inetpro> anyway, you go play, it's really simple
[13:51] <inetpro> just create that file and put those values in there
[13:51] <Kilos> lol that command does the same , shows nothing
[13:51] <inetpro> ai
[13:51] <Kilos> ok i will see what i can sort out
[13:52] <inetpro> Kilos: ls -la /root
[13:53] <Kilos> ill open my channel quick and paste there ok?
[13:53] <inetpro> Kilos: hang on
[13:54] <inetpro> I think you can even create that file simply in your own home directory
[13:54]  * Kilos hangs
[13:54] <inetpro> so just ~/.iftoprc
[13:54] <inetpro> without needing sudo but still execute iftop with sudo
[13:55] <Kilos> miles@P4:~$ ~/.iftoprc
[13:55] <Kilos> bash: /home/miles/.iftoprc: No such file or directory
[13:56] <inetpro> echo interface: ppp0 >> ~/.iftoprc
[13:56] <inetpro> without sudo
[13:57] <Kilos> has that done something
[13:58] <inetpro> cat ~/.iftoprc
[13:59] <inetpro> then try: sudo iftop
[13:59] <inetpro> without the extra parameters
[13:59] <Kilos> miles@P4:~$ cat ~/.iftoprc
[13:59] <Kilos> interface: ppp0
[13:59] <Kilos> that did something
[14:00] <inetpro> Kilos: and?
[14:00] <Kilos> will need to reboot to see if it remembers ppp0
[14:01] <inetpro> no
[14:01] <inetpro> not needed
[14:01] <Kilos> oh
[14:01] <inetpro> of course it will remember
[14:01] <Kilos> haha
[14:01] <inetpro> now go add the other stuffs
[14:01] <inetpro> echo -e "dns-resolution: no\nport-resolution: no\nline-display: one-line-both\nshow-totals: yes" >> ~/.iftoprc
[14:02] <inetpro> it will only forget that if you remove the file again
[14:02] <Kilos> that long command showed nothing
[14:02] <MeesterArend> How great a challange do i have...
[14:02] <inetpro> because the output is redirected to file
[14:03] <Kilos> yay
[14:03] <MeesterArend> I need to crack the open passwords
[14:03] <MeesterArend> on 3 ms office 2007 file
[14:03] <MeesterArend> 2 docx
[14:03] <MeesterArend> and 1 xlsx
[14:03] <MeesterArend> any ideas
[14:03] <MeesterArend> ?
[14:03] <inetpro> MeesterArend: forget it, go find the password
[14:04] <inetpro> it will be easier
[14:04] <inetpro> or find the original content and rewrite
[14:04] <MeesterArend> well the person whos docs it is apparently went away from our office
[14:04] <MeesterArend> permanently
[14:04] <Kilos> eish
[14:04] <MeesterArend> ye
[14:05] <MeesterArend> what i thought
[14:05] <Kilos> MeesterArend, can you copy them to somewhere else and then try opening
[14:05] <MeesterArend> one option in some cracking software statesabbout 200 m years
[14:05] <MeesterArend> I tried note pad
[14:06] <MeesterArend> not readable
[14:06] <Kilos> try open with
[14:06] <MeesterArend> and my office pc hang about 10k password in 
[14:06] <Kilos> and there is something in office i think it was called express
[14:07] <Kilos> used that to open some notepad and wordpad wouldnt 
[14:07] <MeesterArend> outlook?
[14:07] <Kilos> no there are some choices if you right click and saay open with
[14:08] <Kilos> been a while
[14:08] <MeesterArend> a
[14:08] <MeesterArend> nope
[14:08] <Kilos> it was one of the office goodies
[14:08] <MeesterArend> i tried what i hade
[14:08] <MeesterArend> but i'll keep trying anyway
[14:08] <Kilos> good luck
[14:09] <Kilos> i will try member what that was in the open with
[14:09] <MeesterArend> The problem is it's probably a sotho word to 
[14:09] <Kilos> excell maybe
[14:09] <inetpro> MeesterArend: http://lastbit.com/office2007password.asp
[14:09] <MeesterArend> nope encrypted
[14:09] <inetpro> while you could recover forgotten passwords for Office 2002, 2003 documents using our Guaranteed Recovery or Express Recovery technologies, in Office 2007 these cheap and quick document access recovery methods will not work, sorry.
[14:10] <MeesterArend> i saw that link :D
[14:10] <inetpro> ...protection of documents is finally done competently...
[14:10] <MeesterArend> it would seem so
[14:10] <MeesterArend> any one have a masive serverr farm i may use for a few years to crac these?
[14:11] <inetpro> lol
[14:11] <MeesterArend> :)
[14:11] <Kilos> hehe
[14:11] <MeesterArend> I'm thinking to go cluster here
[14:11] <MeesterArend> just maybe i can crack it then
[14:12]  * nuvolari feels like strangling google
[14:12] <MeesterArend> problem is getting the pc's for the cluster :)
[14:12] <MeesterArend> good idea
[14:13] <nuvolari> not because of their service, because of GWT
[14:13] <Kilos> GWT?
[14:13] <nuvolari> Google Web Toolkit
[14:14] <nuvolari> 'n ding wat mens help (pfft, help se moses) om web apps te maak oom Kilos 
[14:14] <inetpro> Kilos: did you see what those options did to iftop?
[14:15] <Kilos> inetpro, nope
[14:15] <Kilos> looks the same
[14:15] <inetpro> hmm....
[14:15] <inetpro> it's not exactly the same
[14:15] <Kilos> whats different
[14:16] <inetpro> dns-resolution: no  << will no longer show names but just IP addresses
[14:16] <inetpro> port-resolution: no  << same as above but only for ports
[14:17] <Kilos> haha it used to show ip addresses and now shows names
[14:17] <Kilos> ha ha
[14:17] <Kilos> i see the diffs
[14:17] <inetpro> line-display: one-line-both  << will show in and out traffic in one line in stead of default two lines
[14:18] <inetpro> show-totals: yes  << will show you an additional column
[14:19] <inetpro> Kilos: press ? while inside iftop for more help
[14:19] <nuvolari> Kilos: gebruik oom nog vodacom?
[14:19] <Kilos> ja nuvolari 
[14:19] <Kilos> ty inetpro i am just happy its working again
[14:20] <MeesterArend> found something gpu.sourceforge.net looks easy enough
[14:20] <Kilos> hulle het hulle se toring mooi reg gemaak en bou n nuwe ene 5 ks van hier af wat met optic fibres gaan werk se hulle
[14:22] <Kilos> hulle se dis die ou torings wat telkom lyne gebruik wat so stadig is
[14:24] <Kilos> inetpro, have you checked if you get a mtn signal better than your voda one at home
[14:24] <Kilos> then you could try 8ta there
[14:24] <inetpro> Kilos: I guess I should
[14:24] <inetpro> but last time I tried 8ta it was very unstable
[14:25] <inetpro> much worse than voda
[14:25] <Kilos> ian got me airtime for 8ta last month and it works ok here but limited to the mtn edge
[14:25] <inetpro> that is just not good enough for me
[14:26] <Kilos> yeah but that depends on what your mtn tower can supply
[14:26] <Kilos> they have 3g towers as well
[14:26] <Kilos> you might be lucky
[14:27] <inetpro> I doubt but I should perhaps try again
[14:27] <inetpro> sadly a simple test costs money as well
[14:27] <Kilos> dont you know anyone with a mtn fone?
[14:28] <Kilos> get them to visit you and see what tower it picks up from and then ask mtn what speed tower it is
[14:28] <inetpro> I might still have a sim but with no airtime on it
[14:29] <Kilos> or put a mtn sim in your modem
[14:29] <inetpro> I used to be on MTN
[14:29] <Kilos> lol they got R10 airtimes
[14:29] <Kilos> worth the chance
[14:30] <Kilos> maybe even R5 ones
[14:30] <inetpro> at this stage I can live with voda's specials and a little bit on instability here and there
[14:30] <Kilos> ok
[14:30] <inetpro> MTN airtime is a ripoff
[14:30] <inetpro> data bundles*
[14:31] <Kilos> i havent had one for a longish time but 8ta got 100m for R50
[14:31] <Kilos> and 8ta rooams withs mtn
[14:31] <Kilos> roam?
[14:31] <Kilos> daai ding
[14:32] <inetpro> Kilos: that is ridiculous
[14:32] <inetpro> R50 for 100MB = 50c per MB
[14:33] <inetpro> all data should be below 10c per MB at this stage
[14:33] <inetpro> wb morgs
[14:34] <Kilos> yo morgs 
[14:34] <morgs> hi
[14:34] <Kilos> voda coms 100m is R49
[14:34] <inetpro> Kilos: I get very angry at these guys ripping of especially the poor
[14:35] <inetpro> because those who can afford it will go for higher bundles
[14:35] <Kilos> yip the smaller the bundles the more expensive
[14:35] <inetpro> and get it at cheaper rates
[14:35] <inetpro> and the poor who can not afford it will always pay the higher price
[14:35] <Kilos> thats because there are more poor peeps
[14:36] <inetpro> Kilos: they are stealing your milk out of your tea
[14:36] <Kilos> lol and half the sugar
[14:36] <inetpro> exactly
[14:37] <Kilos> thats why i was happy thinking i was gonna get that 500m and them other swines came and stole half
[14:37] <Kilos> the new way of looking at things is that i am lucky they didnt steal it all
[14:38] <inetpro> Kilos: it is about time that we stand up and tell them that this is not acceptable
[14:38] <Kilos> yip im with you
[14:38] <inetpro> in my humble opinion all prepaid should always be cheaper
[14:39] <Kilos> yeah i agree
[14:40] <Kilos> i laugh at some of the adds on the idiot box advertising broadband, they offer this and that and free 10m data a month for a year
[14:40] <inetpro> it's total madness 
[14:40] <Kilos> 10m is nothing unless its only for use on a cell
[14:41] <Kilos> age old saying. Bullshit baffles brains
[14:44] <Kilos> i have used 411k here since i came on
[14:45] <Kilos> that why i been coming on for a while in the morning and then at night
[14:45] <inetpro> for starters I think the consumer act should also apply to data bundles
[14:46] <Kilos> find who to mail and we can all mail them
[14:46] <inetpro> at least expiry of airtime has been extended but data should also carry over if it's unused
[14:46] <Kilos> yeah
[14:47] <Kilos> and voda should let their data go from the date bought for 2 months like the others
[14:47] <Kilos> not just till end of next calender month
[14:47] <inetpro> I hate to admit this but I just lost about 1GB on my phone because it expired on Sunday morning
[14:47] <Kilos> ouch
[14:47]  * Kilos cries with you
[14:48] <Kilos> hey doesnt going in as root on winsucks give you access to everything on it?
[14:48] <inetpro> Kilos: I would even have transferred it to you if I could because I went very easy with my data for two months
[14:49] <Kilos> lol
[14:49] <Kilos> they only allow airtime transfer
[14:49] <inetpro> I purchased the 2GB bundle when I wasn't sure how much I would use at that stage
[14:50] <Kilos> that bundle is actually reasonable
[14:50] <Kilos> around 20c a meg i think
[14:57]  * nuvolari is a data junkie
[14:57] <nuvolari> :-/ hooked on the stuff
[15:00] <Kilos> lol
[15:03] <Kilos> hi Mezenir 
[15:03] <Mezenir> hihi
[15:03] <Mezenir> how goes
[15:03] <Kilos> good ty and you
[15:04] <Mezenir> ok considering work started again today
[15:04] <Kilos> lol
[15:04] <Mezenir> i need a holiday to recover from my holiday
[15:05] <Mezenir> but yah pretty good :)
[15:05] <Mezenir> u ?
[15:07] <Kilos> i too old to work 
[15:07] <Kilos> or have tiring holidays
[15:08] <inetpro> Kilos: at 2.4c per MB you should get the 20GB bundle if in any way possible now before the offer expires on Monday next week
[15:08] <Kilos> lol
[15:08] <Kilos> and expires in 2 months?
[15:09] <inetpro> well if you buy now it will last until end of Feb
[15:09] <Kilos> internet too slow to use all of that in 2 months
[15:09] <Kilos> 2g used to be lekker for 2 months
[15:10] <Kilos> used to download lots
[15:14] <inetpro> I'm seriously hoping that they will come with a new offer soon, perhaps not as cheap as the 20GB but they just have to come down in price 
[15:15] <Kilos> they will hold prices up as long as possible and come down bit by bit just to match or slightly undercut the other service providers
[15:27] <Etherion> Hi guys
[15:28] <Kilos> hi Etherion 
[15:29] <nuvolari> ok, home time
[15:29] <nuvolari> o/
[15:29] <Etherion> Its zeref
[15:29] <Kilos> go safe nuvolari 
[15:30] <nuvolari> will do oom :)
[15:30] <nuvolari> o/ Etherion 
[15:30] <Kilos> ha ha whats with the new nick Etherion 
[15:31] <Etherion> nah, i'm on my phone, on my way back to res, to b reunited witn comp
[15:31] <Kilos> good
[15:32] <Kilos> you shoulda made it zeref.mobi
[15:32] <Etherion> havnt been here for a while, miss anything?
[15:32] <Etherion> Lol
[15:32] <Kilos> no its been very quiet and only few guys through the festive season
[15:33] <Etherion> Ah, i dont remember new yrs day, lol
[15:34] <Etherion> Wit did u get up to kilos?
[15:34] <Kilos> or the headache on the 2nd
[15:34] <Kilos> nothing lad. every day same here
[15:36] <Etherion> Santa bring u no gifts 
[15:36] <Kilos> lol na
[15:36] <Kilos> actually i lie
[15:37] <Kilos> boet gave me R160 airtime for data
[15:37] <Kilos> but half was stolen off fone before i wanted to use it on the first
[15:38] <Etherion> O0o0
[15:38] <Kilos> but we found the culprit just dunno how to squeeze them for a refund
[15:40] <Kilos> you know those smses you get saying "you are subscribed to"
[15:40] <Etherion> Cell c, gave us 1gb to use in one day. With speeds of 1.2kb
[15:40] <Kilos> and sms stop to such and such a number to unsub
[15:41] <Kilos> 1.2kb doesnt give you much 
[15:41] <Etherion> Ah, i remember those things
[15:41] <Kilos> and i didnt ever see the sms because nm doesnt get smses
[15:42] <Etherion> I only managed to use 20mb, lol
[15:42] <Kilos> evil swines
[15:42] <Kilos> mtn has/had a package as well for R50 uncapped for a day
[15:42] <Etherion> LOL
[15:43] <Kilos> but limited to 128k after a certain amount of downloads
[15:43] <Kilos> think i managed about 680m
[15:44] <Kilos> that was like 3 months back i think
[15:44] <Etherion> O0o0
[15:46] <Kilos> sorry 128k/s
[15:46] <Kilos> but my mtn tower is an edge tower so if you get 40kB/s you smile
[15:48] <Etherion> :-)
[15:48] <Etherion> Ah, bus is leaving. Should another 4 hrs left
[15:49] <Etherion> K, i'm out. Cheers
[15:53] <Kilos> bbl
[18:15] <Kilos> evening peeps
[18:18] <Kilos> inetpro, all daai iftop settings het ingekom na n reboot dankie
[18:20] <Kilos> lyk heel beter
[18:30] <Kilos> night all , see ya morrow
[20:38] <DraZoro> Compliments for 2012. How are you doing guys ?
[20:39] <superfly> hey DraZoro
[20:40] <DraZoro> Hello superfly 
[20:40] <superfly> how goes DraZoro?
[20:43] <DraZoro> superfly, One of my plans is to start contributing on bugs report. 
[20:43] <superfly> cool
[21:18] <zeref> hmmm