[00:00] <Toph2> Kiten,,, chrisTOPHer
[00:00] <d1g1ta1> Kiten: great analogy, and exactly my point, if I move /usr/bin to the USB drive, things will break when the USB drive is not present.  What is the *NIX equivalent for D:\program files?
[00:00] <Kiten> Toph2, ahh
[00:00] <maheanuu_> Bonne Fete pour tois aussi
[00:00] <Kiten> d1g1ta1, uhh don't move /usr/bin to usb drive just make a that dir tree on the flash drive
[00:01] <Kiten> or whatever you want to call it
[00:01] <urlin2u> !fr | maheanuu
[00:01] <d1g1ta1> Kiten: how do you mean
[00:02] <maheanuu_> I can boot, I was doing some dj work and building disks for handing out to everyone that comes by yesterday and today but I  cant read or write to anything
[00:02] <Kiten> d1g1ta1, uhh moving your /usr/bin to usb would brick your system
[00:02] <Kiten> *correction OS
[00:02] <Kiten> as it would software related not hardware ;p
[00:02] <Kiten> unless you were reading from a tape drive
[00:03] <escott> d1g1ta1, you are assuming that if you move something from c:\program files that it will work on windows which isn't always true. usually a program looks for libraries and in a particular place, but if your path is correct a well written binary should be runnable from anywhere
[00:03] <d1g1ta1> Kiten: yes, so what are you suggesting I do then.
[00:03] <Kiten> d1g1ta1, make a folder on the usb called /usb then make one inside called usr and inside that bin
[00:03] <Kiten> d1g1ta1, then add it to your path
[00:03] <d1g1ta1> escott: if I could get half my programs to install on the USB drive that would be a big improvement
[00:04] <Kiten> d1g1ta1, like this PATH=$PATH:/media/usb/usr/bin
[00:04] <escott> d1g1ta1, why are you doing this?
[00:04] <maheanuu_> I boot fine, I cannot mount the cd drive or play a mp3 or wav or anything on it nor can I burn anything using K3b or any of the other burning programs nor can I play anything using any of the players  VLC Alsa etcdf
[00:05] <d1g1ta1> Kiten: got it.  and then how do I instruct the package manager or command line make etc utilities to install new programs in /usb/usr/bin ?
[00:05] <maheanuu_> Is there a way to look at it using the terminal?
[00:05] <d1g1ta1> escott: security, disk space, etc
[00:05] <d1g1ta1> escott: tiny HD, giant USB
[00:05] <maheanuu_> amine, where are you???   I am in French Polynesia
[00:05] <Kiten> d1g1ta1, well there is either an ENV var or a config file but i can't remember how to do it
[00:06] <Kiten> d1g1ta1, how tiny are you talking ?
[00:06] <d1g1ta1> too small for my 20 programs + data I need to install
[00:06] <Kiten> d1g1ta1, i've got a puny little 8gb in my 733
[00:07] <escott> d1g1ta1, not sure how it helps security, but if you are concerned about space then look to set the usb as a mountpoint for something like /usr/local or /usr/games. in the past /usr could be its own mountpoint, but thats increasingly harder (and you won't get a bootable system without the usb)
[00:08] <sprinklz> can someone look over a few lines of cron for me to make sure i did it right?
[00:08] <dyd___> goodnight and thank you all for helping
[00:08] <d1g1ta1> escott: yes, that's what I'm worried about... do you know how to make the package manager or make etc to install there?
[00:08] <escott> d1g1ta1, the thing to do is use the disk analyzer (or du) to figure out what is using the most space and is least critical and create a separate mount point for that
[00:08] <escott> d1g1ta1, you can always use a --prefix-dir when running ./configure if you are building by hand
[00:08] <d1g1ta1> escott: I'm good if I just don't install anything more on the internal drive...
[00:08] <kylesmith> It's been 20 minutes, so I'm going to ask my question again: I'm having trouble accessing my encrypted home directory from another computer.  ecryptfs-mount-private is supposed to prompt me for a password, but it returns me directly back to the console without printing any errors or any other information.  How can I get this to work?
[00:08] <Kiten> d1g1ta1, i can tell you from experience that browsers eat the most space
[00:09] <d1g1ta1> Kiten: I would love to put the browser on the USB
[00:09] <Kiten> d1g1ta1, firefox is like 200 mb same with chromium, the thing to do is if you don't need a gui is to use lynx
[00:09] <Kiten> d1g1ta1, they have a portable version somewhere
[00:09] <d1g1ta1> escott:  oh, so ./configure --prefix-dir ?
[00:10] <Kiten> d1g1ta1, thats if you are compiling from source
[00:10] <Kiten> that will not affect your package manager
[00:10] <Guest84702> g
[00:10] <escott> d1g1ta1, ./configure --prefix=/usr/local and then set your fstab to mount the usb on /usr/local
[00:10] <escott> d1g1ta1, when you make install everything will be installed under /usr/local
[00:11] <Guest84702> .
[00:11] <sprinklz> crontabs help?
[00:11] <Kiten> d1g1ta1: but like i said it won't affect your package manager
[00:12] <escott> sprinklz, just send us the line
[00:12] <Resistance> sprinklz:  what type of help do you need with crontabs?
[00:12] <d1g1ta1> escott: is there a way to make it go to /usb/usr/bin ?
[00:12] <Kiten> Guest84702, did you need something ? :P
[00:13] <escott> d1g1ta1, sure just change the prefix. /usr/local is the traditional label is all
[00:13] <d1g1ta1> Kiten:  I will look for that, that will certainly help.  So is there a way to tell the package manager to download and install something on /usb/usr/bin ?
[00:14] <SVNDR> Kiten: im at the ubuntu loading screen, and because my USB disk vibrates when you plug or unplug it, its constantly vibrating.. how long does it normally take to load? this time its not patience, i dont want to break my usb lol
[00:14] <Kiten> d1g1ta1, there is but i can't recall whether you could set an env var or if it was a config file
[00:14] <Kiten> SVNDR, uhhh thats a weird usb drive
[00:14] <Kiten> SVDR what are your system specs ?
[00:15] <Kiten> on my netbook took around 20 - 30 secs to completely at the desktop boot
[00:15] <d1g1ta1> escott: so in my case, can I do ./configure --prefix=/usb/usr/bin ?
[00:15] <Kiten> d1g1ta1, yes
[00:15] <SVNDR> Kiten: yes it is lol exspensive though.. um about 3GB ram.. 32bit.. cant remember the rest lol
[00:15] <escott> d1g1ta1, yes
[00:16] <Kiten> SVNDR well 3gb of ram will definitely not hurt
[00:16] <Kiten> SVNDR you should at the worst boot  in 1-3 minutes
[00:17] <Kiten> SVNDR, if you chose to jump straight to the installer that will take a little more time
[00:17] <SVNDR> Kiten: is it supposed to be unplugging and plugging the usb in though? well i chose 'install to harddrive'
[00:18] <Kiten> SVNDR ???? did you meant its mounting and unmounting or is it physically removing and plugging itself in ????
[00:18] <Kiten> *mean
[00:18] <SVNDR> mounting and unmountig lol
[00:18] <SVNDR> no ghostly stuff
[00:19] <SVNDR> Kiten: (initramfs) Unable to find medium containing live file system..
[00:19] <Kiten> SVNDR, lol its not suppose to
[00:20] <Kiten> SVNDR, and that would explain that error there
[00:20] <Kiten> SVNDR, did you use the desktop iso or the usb iso ?
[00:20] <Kiten> *not sure what i meant there
[00:20] <SVNDR> USB?
[00:21] <Kiten> SVNDR like i said not sure what i mean there
[00:21] <Kiten> :p
[00:21] <Kiten> *meant
[00:21] <SVNDR> ii downloaded the ISO for windows and used USB to install.. lol
[00:22] <Kiten> hmm i got the iso from ubuntu's site then used universal usb creator to make mine liveUSB
[00:22] <diverdude> i am trying to install packages for ubuntu apache2 for a long time now but i get this error: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/500305249 it is very frstrating...what am I missing?
[00:22] <Kiten> SVNDR reboot and this time if you see a check disk for defects use it
[00:22] <SVNDR> Kiten: same here.
[00:22] <SVNDR> Kiten: ok
[00:23] <Kiten> your usb might not have copied correctly
[00:23] <Kiten> d1g1ta1, you all good ?
[00:23] <SVNDR> Kiten: alright will ill try that now
[00:24] <Kiten> SVNDR mmk after that try to boot live (ie choose to try ubuntu)
[00:24] <SVNDR> well*
[00:24] <SVNDR> ok
[00:25] <SVNDR> Kiten: slight problem, now its stuck on a blank screen not going anywhere lol
[00:25] <d1g1ta1> Kiten:  can I install the developer libraries this way also?
[00:25] <Kiten> give it a minute or 2
[00:26] <Kiten> d1g1ta1, yeah when you do the configure prefix thing it will copy any necessary libraries to an appropriate folder
[00:27] <sumosu> aaah kernel compiling makes my cpus nice and warm. better than coco and marshmallows in this season :)
[00:27] <Kiten> d1g1ta1, if you meant like independent libs then i'd also create /usb/usr/libs too and add that to your path
[00:27] <diverdude> i am trying to install packages for ubuntu apache2 for a long time now but i get this error: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/500305249 it is very frstrating...what am I missing?
[00:28] <Kiten> diverdude try sudo apt-get check
[00:29] <diverdude> Kiten, it did not help
[00:29] <Kiten> sudo apt-get update
[00:29] <diverdude> Kiten, also not
[00:29] <rypervenche> diverdude: What distro and version are you using, and are you using any PPAs?
[00:29] <diverdude> rypervenche, 11.10 and not using ppa
[00:30] <Kiten> sudo apt-get -f install
[00:30] <Kiten> diverdude, apt-get update was to make sure your cache was up to date
[00:30] <Kiten> that last one will attempt to fix your broken packages
[00:31] <bfri> what ubuntu flavour is best for a pentium III?
[00:31] <diverdude> rypervenche, its because i want to compile php 5.4 and in order to do that i need to bundle it with apache2 and mysql...which requires this apxs file from apache to build apache modules....Apparantly that binary does not come with ubuntu so im trying to install it but it does not work
[00:31] <d1g1ta1> Kiten: can the USB drive be formatted with FAT?
[00:31] <Kiten> d1g1ta1, yeah
[00:32] <rypervenche> bfri: There is no "best", use whichever you like.
[00:32] <SVNDR> Kiten:  from BIOS, should i be selecting USB HDD: Softstick-(USB 2.0) ?
[00:32] <rhizmoe> i was getting (common) opengl errors with sketchup 8 under wine, is 7 generally better in this environment?
[00:32] <diverdude> rypervenche, what should i do?
[00:33] <Kiten> SVNDR, you have USB FDD ?
[00:33] <Kurdistan> hi I am trying to help a user in one of our locos. the mouse is detected by lsusb but not working.
[00:33] <SVNDR> Kiten: yes
[00:33] <Kurdistan> what should the user do?
[00:33] <Kiten> SVNDR, does it state any drive next to it ?
[00:33] <SVNDR> Kiten: nah its blank
[00:33] <rypervenche> diverdude: Do what Kiten said to do. "sudo apt-get check" and "sudo apt-get -f install"
[00:33] <Kurdistan> I have searched on the internet with no luck
[00:34] <diverdude> Kiten, but if there is some problem will -f (force) it not potentially make it much worse?
[00:34] <Kiten> diverdude, no -f is fix
[00:34] <Kiten> it used to be --fix-missing
[00:34] <bfri> rypervenche, i'm having trouble with 10,04 alternative, would that be due to compatibility?
[00:34] <Kiten> diverdude, apt-get --help shows all the possible flags
[00:34] <Kiten> SVNDR is that the only USB xxx with a label ?
[00:35] <diverdude> Kiten, i still get the error
[00:35] <rypervenche> bfri: It could be a lot of things. What kind of problems are you having?
[00:35] <SVNDR> Kiten:  yea sure is
[00:35] <Kiten> SVNDR then yeah use that
[00:35] <Kiten> diverdude, did you add any other sources ?
[00:35] <zabomber> so i want the mail command in ubuntu to be able to send external mail? How do i accomplish this?
[00:36] <Kiten> or install anything from the unstable repo ?
[00:36] <Kurdistan> sudo chmod -R 777 /dev/bus/usb   <<--- can this be a solution?
[00:36] <rypervenche> diverdude: type "cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit"
[00:36] <diverdude> Kiten, yeah but for other things...long time ago
[00:36] <Kiten> diverdude do what rypervenche said
[00:36] <Zarathu> What is the purpose of @ in file permissions? -rw-r--r--@
[00:37] <SVNDR> Kiten: it booted straight to windows (not what it did the first time)
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> Kurdistan: /dev is in tempfs so the change will be lost on reboot
[00:37] <trism> rypervenche: Kiten diverdude there is nothing wrong with the sources, the two packages conflict on each other (they provide the same files)
[00:37] <escott> Zarathu, ACL extended attributes i think you need to look at the file with lsattr
[00:37] <Kiten> diverdude, then sudo apt-get purge apache2
[00:37] <RenatoSilva> Zarathu: I think it's not part of a file permission
[00:38] <Kurdistan> ActionParsnip, okey. have you any idea?
[00:38] <diverdude> Kiten, here is my output: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/1037697207
[00:38] <Zarathu> escott: I'm on OS X.
[00:38] <diverdude> Kiten, what does the purge do
[00:38] <escott> Zarathu, then ask in the osx channel
[00:38] <Zarathu> RenatoSilva: It's on a single file in the entire directory--just a bunch of images. Driving me crazy, not knowing what's up with that file. :P
[00:38] <Kiten> diverdude, your sources list is fine
[00:38] <Zarathu> escott: No.
[00:39] <bfri> rypervenche, when i go to install ubuntu on the computer right after the disk boots and i choose my language and 'install ubunut' it just kind of freezes on the backround
[00:39] <Kiten> diverdude, it removes anything related to apache2(specifically whatever you've installed thats been tagged as apache2)
[00:39] <RenatoSilva> Zarathu: no idea what's that, sorry
[00:39] <diverdude> Kiten, but wont ii be needing that?
[00:39] <Kiten> diverdude, you can reinstall them
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> Zarathu: http://blog.anselmbradford.com/2008/12/24/what-is-the-significance-of-plus-and-at-in-mac-os-x-file-permission-tables/
[00:40] <diverdude> Kiten, what about all my config files then and all that
[00:40] <Kiten> diverdude, back them up to another directory
[00:40] <Zarathu> ActionParsnip: Thanks. \:D/
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> Zarathu: all I did was websearch...
[00:41] <trism> diverdude: there is no need to do that, just install one of them (I imagine the one that matches the apache2 mpm you have installed)
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> Kurdistan: if you unplug it then plug it in, is it ok?
[00:41] <diverdude> trism, i have the apache2 from ubuntu repo
[00:41] <diverdude> trism, which mpm is that?
[00:41] <sywisy> What is command to rename a directory?
[00:41] <Kurdistan> ActionParsnip, it is not for me. I help one ubuntu user in our loco.
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> sywisy: mv name newname
[00:42] <Kiten> sywisy, mv dirname newdirname
[00:42] <Kurdistan> I do think he/she have done that
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> Kurdistan: same thing applies though, doesn't it
[00:42] <stepnjump> I have two swaps. When the first swap is not available, I would like for the second swap (in priority) to take over. How could I configure that?
[00:42] <sywisy> Thanks
[00:42] <SVNDR> Kiten: my puter booted straight to windows and not the ubuntu setup
[00:42] <trism> diverdude: there are several, try: dpkg -l 'apache2*'; and see which one is installed
[00:42] <sywisy> Is there any way to make a file undeletable? Even by its owner?
[00:42] <Kurdistan> ActionParsnip, I think the user have. I asked if it have been working before and the answer was no.
[00:42] <cindy_> install java on the terminal
[00:43] <escott> sywisy, you would have to change the permissions on the folder, but root can always delete it
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> Kurdistan: what is the make and model of the device, if it has one?
[00:43] <Kiten> SVNDR, sorry i forgot, hmm what does your boot order look like ? also reboot and push f12 that should bring your boot menu up if it doesn't its probably f10
[00:43] <Kiten> *boot list
[00:43] <kylesmith> It's been an hour with no response, so I'm going to ask my question again: I'm having trouble accessing my encrypted home directory from another computer.  ecryptfs-mount-private is supposed to prompt me for a password, but it returns me directly back to the console without printing any errors or any other information.  How can I get this to work?
[00:43] <diverdude> trism, this: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/2007625101
[00:43] <sywisy> escott: Even with sticky bit on, the owner of file can delete too
[00:43] <cindy_> what do i put in the terminal to install java
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: what is the output of:  uname -m
[00:43] <cindy_> i dont understand
[00:43] <Kiten> kylesmith, check dmesg for errors related to accessing your folder
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: its a terminal command, run it, what is output
[00:44] <Bunie> if i find a problem with a video driver what do i do? :S
[00:44] <Kurdistan> ActionParsnip, I have send the forum post to you (PM).
[00:44] <cindy_> sudo
[00:44] <trism> diverdude: you have apache2-mpm-prefork so install apache2-prefork-dev
[00:44] <bfri> i have a pentium III HP running win 98 and want to put ubuntu but it freeze on the installation start up any thoughts?
[00:44] <escott> sywisy, mkdir test; cd test; touch test.txt; chmod 500 .; rm test.txt; (gives permission denied file not deleted
[00:44] <clockwork9> hey folks, I'd like to setup a dual-boot between arch and ubuntu 11.10. What's the best way to find the location of Ubuntu's kernel image so that I can configure GRUB?
[00:44] <Bunie> bfri: Pent 3? how much ram has it got?
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: I never said sudo
[00:44] <Kiten> bfri, yeah i've got one too, did you use a live cd ?
[00:44] <SVNDR> Kiten: no prob, waited till u werent busy lol.. um ill i changed in the boot list was USB2.0. moved it from 8 to 1
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: again. what is the output of:   uname -m
[00:45] <diverdude> trism, yeah you solved the issue. thank you
[00:45] <SVNDR> Kiten: it worked last restart
[00:45] <cindy_> i dont know help me here understand what your asking please
[00:45] <Kiten> SVNDR your bios might be weird and the last entry might actually be first on the order
[00:45] <Kiten> SVNDR, but a sure fire way when you reboot push f12 till you here beeping
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: open a terminal and run:   uname -m      what is output. It's literally that simple
[00:46] <diverdude> trism, do you know where apxs is located then
[00:46] <Kiten> that should bring your bios boot menu up and it will let you choose a device to boot from
[00:46] <Bunie> whats the closest thing to notepad that comes with ubuntu? i need to save a document with no formating or anything
[00:46] <escott> Bunie, gedit
[00:46] <trism> diverdude: /usr/bin/apxs2 it seems
[00:46] <Kiten> cindy_, go to applications then accessories then click terminal and type what ActionParsnip said in
[00:46] <Bunie> Thanks
[00:46] <cindy_> i686
[00:47] <sywisy> escott, my bad, you're right. Sticky bit is for when you want files to be editable but not deletable
[00:47] <SVNDR> Kiten: do you mean BIOS? mine it F1. thats what i did just then, but it still booted to windows
[00:47] <diverdude> trism, ahh yes
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: thanks
[00:47] <SVNDR> is*
[00:47] <kylesmith> Kiten: I cleared dmesg, ran ecryptfs-mount-private again, but there's nothing in dmesg
[00:47] <bfri> bunie; not sure
[00:47] <bfri> kiten: yes
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/791174/
[00:47] <cindy_> no problem now what do i do
[00:47] <Kiten> SVNDR did it take it a minute to boot to windows as in was there a pause that wasn't there normally ?
[00:47] <Bunie> bfri: with pentium 3, theres a chance you dont meet ram requirements for ubuntu
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: run those commands line by line, ignore the top line
[00:47] <escott> sywisy, sticky bit is for shared (temp mostly) folders. where you want all users to be able to create files, but not to be able to modify other peoples files
[00:47] <bfri> kiten what flavour do you use?
[00:47] <hiexpo> cindy_, you wanna install sun java 6
[00:47] <SVNDR> Kiten: yes, about 2 mins or so
[00:48] <stepnjump> I have two swaps. When the first swap is not available, I would like for the second swap (in priority) to take over. How could I configure that? actionparsnip, any idea?
[00:48] <bfri> bunie how do i check?
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: that lot gives oracle (not sun anymore) java 7
[00:48] <Kiten> Bunie, on my p3 i use ubuntu but i installed fluxbox as a window manager
[00:48] <diverdude> trism, do you know if i make install php then, will it overwrite my existing php?
[00:48] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, oh
[00:48] <escott> stepnjump, that should happen automatically
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> stepnjump: I believe swap space is detected and enabled by default
[00:48] <Kiten> i have a hp p3 with 256 and it runs ubuntu just fine as long as i use fluxbox
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> fluxbox rocks
[00:48] <Kiten> kylesmith, you might have a configuration issue
[00:48] <bfri> kiten what is fluxbox?
[00:49] <Bunie> Kiten: he will still have difficulties installing :P
[00:49] <kylesmith> Kiten: okay, how can I determine if that is the problem?
[00:49] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, i guess i need to upgrade
[00:49] <Bunie> Kiten: I assume P3 computers have 64 to 256MB of ram
[00:49] <Kiten> bfri, fluxbox is a window manager/ Desktop Environment and its much more lightweight than gnome(which is what ubuntu uses by default)
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: it's a handy script ;)
[00:50] <cindy_> says file not found
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> bfri: its a desktop WM but can also run without a DE
[00:50] <Bunie> Xubuntu or lubuntu are pretty light weight :P
[00:50] <Kiten> Bunie, yeah most have 256mb though its pretty tough to find one with a 64 stick unless they never upgraded
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: which file?
[00:50] <SVNDR> Kiten: booting to windows took a while, about 2minutes longer then normal. so yes there was a pause
[00:50] <cindy_> yes i want to install sun java 6
[00:50] <stepnjump> escott and ActionParsnip yes you are right.. I just remembered I swapoff -a then forgot to swapon after. Thanks guys
[00:50] <bfri> actionparsnip what is wm and de?
[00:50] <Kiten> SVNDR then you need to remake your live usb
[00:50] <Bunie> Kiten: Even still, i think the Ubuntu installer will freeze with 256
[00:50] <bfri> kiten where can i find an iso to make a live cd?
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: that lot gives you oracle (sun doesn't own java now) java 7
[00:50] <cindy_> http://ubuntu.com/71174
[00:50] <Kiten> Bunie, i've used it succefully its slower than crap
[00:50] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip,  looking nowto upgrade   > still using 10.04
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> bfri: its a WM, but can run without DE
[00:51] <SVNDR> Kiten: ok
[00:51] <Bunie> :P
[00:51] <Kiten> bfri, www.ubuntu.com
[00:51] <cindy_> okay how do you install oracle
[00:51] <Bunie> Oracle? :s
[00:51] <Kiten> kylesmith, sorry i didn't forget you but i'm not particularly smart when it comes to encrypted partitions
[00:51] <Bunie> You mean Java? or open office? or something? :S
[00:51] <Bunie> virtual box?
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: http://pastie.org/3115545
[00:51] <hiexpo> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-jdk-in.html
[00:51] <Bunie> Oh java
[00:51] <Bunie> :p
[00:52] <Bunie> doesnt that come with ubuntu now or somethin?
[00:52] <Kiten> kylesmith, i can debug all day long but i cant fix anything with out having a starting point the folks in #linux would probably be more knowledgeable
[00:52] <cindy_> yes i just got a message saying sun doesnt own java
[00:52] <bfri> bunie i dont see it
[00:52] <Oer> that link from hiexpo also handles java 6
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: kinda messy
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: they don't. Its owned by oracle now
[00:52] <Bunie> bfri: Are you trying to find the ISO>?
[00:52] <bfri> yes
[00:52] <cindy_> okay how do install this to my computer somebody
[00:52] <bfri> i am currently running win 98
[00:52] <sumosu> i have a problem: i removed a usb stick (full install, no persistatn mode) while my laptop was in suspend mode and then wrote 5 gigs of data to the stick. plugged it back in and woke it up. fsck (or similar) complained and "fixed" the boot drive (usb stick). the data i put there was available in lost+found folder, but deleting them did not free the memory
[00:53] <Kiten> bfri, its under downloads on ubuntu.com
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: I gave you the commads, just run them in order
[00:53] <Bunie> bfri: www.ubuntu.com/download
[00:53] <escott> cindy_, oracle purchased sun, and oracle is dropping the sun code in favor of openjdk apache project for the next version of java
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: from top to bottom, one after the other
[00:53] <cindy_> i did and i did not let me
[00:53] <SVNDR> Kiten: i swear their used to be a way you could just download ubuntu as an exe file and it would do all this its self.. or am i rong? lol
[00:54] <escott> SVNDR, i think you mean wubi
[00:54] <bfri> bunie i only see as late as 10.04
[00:54] <hiexpo> cindy_, why not   what was the errors you recieved
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: http://pastie.org/3115545
[00:54] <SVNDR> escott: nah i never used wubi.. i just dont remember this process when i did it last time
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: it worked for me less than an hour ago
[00:54] <SVNDR> escott: is wubi simpler?
[00:55] <kylesmith> Kiten: that's okay.  I don't know how I can have a configuration issue.  When I installed ubuntu on my laptop, I clicked the checkbox to encrypt my home directory.  Laptop dies -> put hard drive in desktop.  From nautilus (on my desktop), I click the graphical icon to mount my laptop hard drive, cd to /home/myusername and when I run ecrypt-mount-private nothing happens...
[00:55] <Kiten> SVNDR you can use wubi
[00:55] <escott> SVNDR, i dont recommend wubi in general. but it does have a windows executable
[00:55] <hiexpo> wubi = way to the dumpster
[00:55] <sywisy> escott, that's not true. Sticky bits only affects user's ability to delete/rename existing files, they can modify. I can give you code if you want
[00:55] <Kiten> escott, why not ?
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: or run:  cd; wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/install32bitJava; chmod +x ./install32bitJava; sudo ./install32bitJava
[00:56] <Bunie> bfri: http://www.ubuntu.com/start-download?distro=desktop&bits=32&release=latest
[00:56] <SVNDR> I might try wubi, for now, just for the simplicity i guess, might by another USB i think this one is dodgey lol
[00:56] <hiexpo> that will work
[00:56] <bfri> bunie that is 11.10
[00:56] <Bunie> bfri: isnt that what you want?
[00:57] <bfri> bunie i'm currently trying to install 10.04 and its not working
[00:57]  * ActionParsnip loves his java script :)
[00:57] <tomtiger11> SVNDR: Try burning a disk, it works better ( if you have some handy)
[00:57] <trism> diverdude: it probably won't since they generally default to /usr/local when manually compiling, but I would uninstall the repo php before manually installing (just to keep things clean)
[00:57] <bfri> bunie i would think an earlier version would be better no?
[00:57] <SVNDR> tomtiger11: nope thats why im doing it this way, no disks
[00:57] <Bunie> bfri: Dont think so. :P
[00:57] <Kiten> SVNDR, you can get a 4gb for about 6-8 $ now ;p
[00:57] <escott> sywisy, i think we are saying the same thing. sticky bit is for temp directory. i want you to be able to create a file in /tmp and delete it myself, but i dont want you to be able to delete or rename my file
[00:57] <bfri> bunie so you're saying 11.10 works on ur pen III just fine?
[00:58] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, need to get rid of others first though ?
[00:58] <tomtiger11> SVNDR: Aha! Do you have any other os installed?
[00:58] <Kiten> bfri, i'd recommend 9.04 but 9.04 is kind of old
[00:58] <escott> Kiten, i don't like the idea of having a ntfs loopback for the root fs. i think a vm makes more sense
[00:58] <SVNDR> Kiten: my one is 10gb, has all pretty lights and it vibrates...(kind of pointless) lol
[00:58] <sumosu> oh i fixed my problem. moving files from lost+found to the trashbin didnt help obviously lol
[00:58] <diverdude> trism, i would like to have both installed actually so that i can switch back because i dont know if me different libs will be compatible with 5.4, and so i want to be able to switch back...eg. xdebug i dont know if it will run with 5.4
[00:58] <Kiten> SVNDR, lol 10gb is kinda an odd number for a usb drive
[00:58] <hiexpo> remove other jre
[00:58] <Kiten> 16gb makes more sense
[00:59] <bfri> kiten which 8.something was an LST?
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: nar it's fine. It gets added as 81 which will add it just fine
[00:59] <SVNDR> Kiten: yea i think its chinese..
[00:59] <SVNDR> lol
[00:59] <Kiten> bfri, no 9.04 i think 9.10 was lts
[00:59] <tomtiger11> SVNDR: If you have windows installed, use a virtual drive
[00:59] <SVNDR> Kiten: nah 10, thats what it says haha
[00:59] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, i just noticed thatts for chrome though
[00:59] <trism> diverdude: I don't really do much with php and apache, so probably better to direct further questions to the channel
[01:00] <Bunie> bfri: you need to pick something more light weight then Ubuntu, i doubt your PC has the ram. however you can also try this if your feeling brave enough http://goo.gl/l0wqb
[01:00] <Kiten> escott, yeah but a vm is more heavy than a looback
[01:00] <cindy_> none of those commands are working
[01:00] <SVNDR> brb
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: the file can be linked elsewhere if you use different browsers
[01:00] <Kiten> Bunie, common now i've got it running on my p3
[01:00] <sumosu> i have a nano usb micro sd card reader. quite happy with it
[01:00] <Kiten> *come on
[01:00] <sten2> can i have a dual-booted 10.04 and 11.10 use the same swap partition?
[01:00] <hiexpo> kk
[01:00] <Bunie> Kiten: he has no idea how much ram he has
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: chromium is all I use
[01:00] <Bunie> Kiten: So odds are its never seen an upgrade
[01:00] <Bunie> Kiten: a pc with Pent3 with no upgrades?
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: daily build, of course
[01:01] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, i use firefox
[01:01] <cindy_> i need help to install java on ubuntu
[01:01] <Kiten> Bunie, its nearly un heard of
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: unlucky
[01:01] <Bunie> Kiten: ubuntu installer requires over 300MB of ram
[01:01] <sumosu> sten2: should be no prob unless you hibernate to the swap disk
[01:01] <Kiten> Bunie, it will run with 256 i've done it
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: if you symlink to ~/.mozilla/plugins it will work
[01:01] <Bunie> Kiten: i still think he has 64 or 128
[01:01] <hiexpo> kk ActionParsnip
[01:01] <cindy_> hello i need help here
[01:01] <Kiten> bfri, i'd recommned lubuntu or linux mint
[01:02] <sten2> sumosu: thanks
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: the command I gave you earler will download my script and install java for you
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: it doesn't get ANY easier than that
[01:02] <Bunie> bfri: Yeh i dont think ubuntu is a good idea even if you had 256MB of ram
[01:02] <viator> You need alternate installer disc
[01:02] <Bunie> viator: I linked him to it http://goo.gl/l0wqb
[01:02] <viator> For 256 or less
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: just copy the line I gave, paste it to a terminal and hit ENTER and it will install it for you.
[01:02] <cindy_> okay maybe i am doing it wrong, cuz i have done everything you told me and nothing here]
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: what more do you want
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: or run:  cd; wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/install32bitJava; chmod +x ./install32bitJava; sudo ./install32bitJava
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: copy the text, don't click the link
[01:03] <tomtiger11> ActionParsnip: Did you give her an apt get command
[01:04] <cindy_> i did that and it did not work please dont get mad
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> tomtiger11: yes it uses unp :)
[01:04] <tomtiger11> K
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: can you pastebin the output of the command please
[01:04] <cindy_> yes i can
[01:05] <viator> Its because you don't copy the CD;
[01:05] <viator> Part
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: it'll help
[01:05] <bfri> bunie what would you suggest?
[01:05] <SVNDR> Kiten: so what size should i choose for installation size.. just half of what what i have free on my mian drive?
[01:05] <sywisy> For shell scripting, if I have 'name.c' in an env var, how would I extract just 'name'?
[01:05] <Bunie> bfri: Im a bit new to all this, but i used lubuntu, its pretty lightweight.
[01:06] <asja95> ciao
[01:06] <Barnabas> sywisy, man basename
[01:06] <owenll> cindy_: just trying to help here - cd; means cd without the ; in a terminal then enter - wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/install32bitJava in a terminal then enter etc for all the commands ActionParsnip has given yu
[01:06] <asja95> !list
[01:06] <Bunie> Anyway, who suggested i use gparted in place of notepad?
[01:06] <sywisy> Barnabas, nice thx
[01:07] <sywisy> Barnabas, could you also do it by manipulating $ILS?
[01:07] <Bunie> its not working for what i need it to do =/ the progrm reading the text file says invalid format
[01:07] <cindy_> so write all that stuff in there
[01:07]  * tnk1 is back.
[01:07] <owenll> line by line then enter after each one
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: the last command I gave is to be run as one big command
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: copy the whole line and it will install
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: cd; wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/install32bitJava; chmod +x ./install32bitJava; sudo ./install32bitJava
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: you responces imply you haven't ran the command either
[01:10] <viator> Why not install openjdk from the software center
[01:10] <Guest21168> i can't get grub-install to work when having a dm-crypt / partition. I get the exact message as in this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/681535 bugreport but it is claimed to be fixed.. any one know if EFI and gpt could make this worse?
[01:11] <Kiten> svndr, yeah
[01:12] <Kiten> svndr wait installing it to a hard drive ?
[01:12] <joshua__> Hey guys, I'm having an issue with my webcam's onboard mic.  I'm not sure if it's the mic, or Skype messing up.  Am I in the right Channel? I'm running Ubuntu 11.10
[01:12] <viator> The gui wayto do it open software center search for openjdk install
[01:13] <busybyeski> joshua__: does the mic pic up in any other application?
[01:13] <busybyeski> try a simple sound recorder
[01:13] <escott> joshua__, and use alsamixer to maximize the db gain on the mic
[01:13] <Bunie> any way to switch from gnome to kde or something else without losing my open programs?
[01:13] <dagerik> My usb drive has a partition with iso9669(CDFS) on it. A partition which has CD filesystem. I am unable to write or even remove this partition. Any tips?
[01:13] <aBound> Kiten, Woot it's kiten. :P
[01:13] <joshua__> It works on and off through skype.  It's not that it's not working at all, it just goes in and out.
[01:14] <viator> I dumped Skype when Microsoft bought em
[01:14] <kylesmith> Kiten: #linux just told me to come back here... :/
[01:14] <escott> Bunie, not really you would need to logout
[01:14] <urlin2u> dagerik, is it mounted?
[01:14] <Bunie> escott Awh =[
[01:14] <joshua__> It has a good connection to the system, and I suspect it may be because I'm running the Linux version of Skype.
[01:14] <dagerik> urlin2u: It is mounted when I try to write to it of course.
[01:14] <Bunie> that Banshee plugin where it shows banshee controls in gnome's sound thingy, whats that called? i nneed to install it. it comes default in ubuntu but im using lubuntu + gnome
[01:15] <urlin2u> dagerik, can you right click it and format it if mounted and icon is on desktop
[01:15] <dagerik> urlin2u: tried that, says it is read only system.
[01:15] <dagerik> urlin2u: Which it is, it is a CD. :P:P
[01:16] <aBound> escott, Howdy. :P
[01:16] <owenll> Bunie: Media Player Extension?
[01:16] <joshua__> What could case a cracking sound in the input through the mic?
[01:16] <joshua__> cause*
[01:16] <joshua__> In terms of Software?
[01:17] <urlin2u> dagerik, have you installed gparted...I'm addressing the partition....for a reformat
[01:17] <Oer> joshua__, bad wiring
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> joshua__: disable power management on the device
[01:17] <viator> It could be some kinda RF problem
[01:18] <dagerik> urlin2u: gparted says the usb drive has no partitions and all data is unallocated,
[01:18] <joshua__> How do I do that?
[01:18] <kylesmith> Kiten: do you know somewhere else besides #linux I could go for encryption help?
[01:18] <urlin2u> dagerik, was the usb ever encrypted?
[01:18] <dagerik> urlin2u: I am suspecting this iso9660 partition on my usb drive is somehow "burned" onto it. Just like regular CDs.
[01:18] <dagerik> urlin2u: Nope.
[01:18] <Kiten> kylesmith #encryption ?
[01:19] <dagerik> urlin2u: Got it from my university.
[01:19] <kylesmith> brilliant
[01:19] <Kiten> kylesmith, or you could ask on ubuntu forums
[01:19] <urlin2u> dagerik, where does it say that it still had this cd.... a permanent burn is a unlikely.
[01:20]  * tnk1 is away: Gone away for now
[01:20] <dagerik> urlin2u: Nautilus reports it as a CD. And when I run mount I can see it is iso9660. When I try to mount manually with rw(read write) I get the error: file system is read only.
[01:21] <kylesmith> Kiten: yeah... I don't have much faith in ubuntu forums.  Every time I search google and ubuntu forums comes up, it's one original post and a series of bumps going nowhere, or a link to a blog that supposedly has step by step instructions, which when followed, do absolutely nothing for your particular system. ... but I may end up trying it.
[01:22] <urlin2u> dagerik, I think that is firmware try just formatting the usb with gparted.
[01:23] <Retistic> anyone know a good tutorial on swapping dbs?
[01:23] <sumosu> dagerik: check if your stick has a write protect switch
[01:23] <dagerik> urlin2u: When I format it with gparted it works perfectly. I even used it as a usb startup when I installed ubuntu. The Cd partition is only 30 mb.
[01:24] <caesar_> can someone assist me on making my desktop icons visible
[01:24] <urlin2u> dagerik, yeah look on the web for removing the firmware if needed It does not sound like you need to though, almost all usb's have firmware probably.
[01:24] <caesar_> i have stuff on my desktop but it is blank and has been since out-the-box
[01:24] <escott> caesar_, perhaps nautilus is not starting. open a file browser
[01:24] <dagerik> sumosu: sumosu I will check if my particular usb drive has thatt write protection switch.
[01:25] <escott> dagerik, could also be some kind of u3 nonsense
[01:25] <urlin2u> caesar_, stuff?
[01:25] <caesar_> urlin2u: yes, files and folders
[01:26] <urlin2u> escott, I had one of those u3 thumbs gave ut to a friend who runs windows.
[01:26] <urlin2u> t
[01:27] <dagerik> My usb drive is: 090c:1000 Feiya Technology Corp. Flash Drive
[01:28] <cindy_> it did install but i cant seem to use it to play my games, can someone help
[01:28] <bfri> bunie does lubuntu have the same software center and use .deb files?
[01:28] <angela-> hello how do i my mp3s eneble to my internet djconsill from my  hd?
[01:29] <juan_> how do i create a script that i can double click and have it run some commands? my wireless card does not work unless i do two commands
[01:29] <cindy_> can someone help me here with my java installment
[01:29] <sumosu> yay new kernel works like a charm
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: did you get a menu where you select the java 1.7?
[01:29] <angela-> cindy what cinde off java?
[01:30] <cindy_> no how do i get that please
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: The script I gave does it.
[01:30] <escott> juan_, put the commands in a file. have the file start with #!/bin/bash run chmod +x filename
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> bfri: lubuntu is ubuntu but with LXDEand openbox instead of Gnome and compiz
[01:30] <escott> juan_, and put the file in $HOME/bin
[01:30] <cindy_> i just saw the downlaoded file in my computer but i cant seem to use it
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: can you pastebin the output you get in the terminal and I can advise
[01:31] <angela-> cindy try sudo apt-get install java 1
[01:31] <Kiten> kylesmith, well you could check the channel list and see if any of the channel names coincide with encryption
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: that's because you clicked the hyperlink didn't you
[01:31] <juan_> escott,  i didnt get that, can i put the commands in a paste bin and you show me what i got to do?
[01:31] <kylesmith> Kiten: that's what I'm doing now
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: I told you NOT to click the link but to copy the command and paste it to the terminal
[01:31] <cindy_> i already have the installment i just cant seem to be able to use it so its not that simple after all
[01:32] <bfri> actionparsnip: in lay what does that mean I understand gnome and compiz but lxde and open box?
[01:32] <escott> juan_, not sure how else i would say it. you want a file that starts #!/bin/bash and the subsequent lines should have whatever else you want
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: did you get a menu with 3 options?
[01:32] <cindy_> yes and i pic # 2
[01:32] <juan_> im a very very new guy to linux....:(
[01:32] <escott> juan_, save that file as $HOME/bin/startwireless.sh, and then open a terminal and type chmod +x ~/bin/startwireless.sh
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> bfri: lxde is a desktop, openbox is a window manager
[01:32] <juan_> ahhh i got it
[01:32] <cindy_> did i pic the right one
[01:32] <bfri> actionparsnip there is no we in lubuntu right?
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> bfri: openbox is the WM
[01:33] <linux_is_my_hero> i can't get my windows computer to go to secure sites without giving me a warning about invalid security certificates
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: what image please? I just searched the page and found no link to an image
[01:33] <bfri> actionparsnip: i see and what actually is that in ubuntu what is that actually in the GUI?
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> linux_is_my_hero: windows isn't supported here
[01:33] <cindy_> i dont know what that means
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> bfri: the WM draws the windows, compiz is a WM
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: (01:32:22) cindy_: yes and i pic # 2        which pic?
[01:34] <bfri> actionparsnip: so what does that in lubuntu?
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: there isn't even a pic #1
[01:34] <escott> juan_, if you want these commands run on every boot you can put them in /etc/rc.local, and if you want it on every login add it to gnome-session-properties
[01:34] <cindy_> i picked #2
[01:34] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: luckily its my gfs computer, and not mine...any suggestions?
[01:34] <viator> You need to restart browser after Java install or the plugins don't work
[01:34] <sumosu> i'm using gnome/openbox on my netbook. its noticably quicker and looks kind of the same
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> bfri: openbox, but it doesn't do all the dumb compiz effects, its a no nonsense WM
[01:35] <juan_> escott, http://pastebin.com/AXQjGK0q
[01:35] <cindy_> how do i restart browser
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> linux_is_my_hero: ask in ##windows
[01:35] <juan_> since they need sudo, i dont know if it will be correct.
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: close the browsers and then reopen
[01:35] <cindy_> how
[01:35] <bfri> actionparsnip: i see so would you say thats the main dif between the two?
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: the cross in the top left of the screen
[01:35] <cindy_> im knew to this guys so be patient
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> bfri: lubuntu is a billion times slicker and lighter
[01:36] <cindy_> yes i see it
[01:36] <escott> juan_, you cant have sudo commands in a script that you double click it wont work. you need to add these commands (without the sudo) to /etc/rc.local. in fact if all you are doing is loading modules you should be modifying /etc/modules
[01:36] <angela-> cindy the red button
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: I have repeatedly asked for the output of my command, ouo haven't given it. Its nothing to do with newness to the OS
[01:36] <cindy_> yes i see
[01:37] <escott> juan_, im not sure what the cd hybrid_wl command is supposed to do. it shouldnt make a difference
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> cindy_: run the command I gave and if you get issues, use http://pastie.org    to give the output
[01:37] <juan_> escott, cd hybrid is to get to that folder where i do the third command
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> I think even if the packages were in the repos, cindy_ would still have issues
[01:38] <juan_> escott, where i run the third command the insmod....
[01:38] <bfri> actionparsnip: when would one start to see the limits of what lubuntu can do respectively, functionality or aesthetics?
[01:38] <viator> Open JFK is and it works fine
[01:38] <escott> juan_, i dont think modprobe looks at the current working directory
[01:38] <bfri> actionparsnip. or both
[01:38] <viator> JFK*
[01:39] <viator> Wth auto correct sucks
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> bfri: its the same OS, it just uses lighter apps by default, so not much
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> bfri: try it, you'll see the deal
[01:39] <bfri> actionparsnip: thanks for the quick edu
[01:39] <angela-> how do i put my mp3 from my hd to internet dj consoll?
[01:39] <viator>  Android
[01:40] <juan_> escott, i dont know, its just the steps in the readme of the broadcom readme steps
[01:41] <viator> Now. Its fixed
[01:41] <cindy_> giving bash command
[01:42] <cindy_> bash output
[01:42] <juan_> escott, you still there?
[01:44] <cindy_> actionparsnip please help me
[01:44] <blackshirt> cindy_: what your problems ?
[01:45] <cindy_> i am having problems with java on ubuntu
[01:46] <chuck002> cindy_ which problems with Java?
[01:48] <cindy_> it says i have it installed but i cant use it
[01:48] <SVNDR> Every time i open firefox on ubuntu my mouse stops working
[01:48] <cindy_> i wish that was all i had to deal with
[01:49] <domo1> using sudo, whats the correct way to use term as "root"
[01:49] <chuck002> cindy_ u have to set the path on Java to your environement variable JAVA_HOME in order to the program find your java
[01:49] <domo1> basically, i want to login as root
[01:49] <domo1> and, how can I login as another user?
[01:49] <cindy_> okay how do i do that please
[01:52] <jack_> isn't there a page that goes over the procedure to boot into runlevel3?
[01:52] <psusi> jack_, there isn't really such a thing on ubuntu
[01:52] <chuck634> cindy_ di in command line "export JAVA_HOME yourPathToJava"
[01:53] <chuck634> cindy_ do
[01:53] <jack_> psusi, well whats the easiest way to kill xserver?
[01:53] <psusi> jack_, you can boot with the text kernel argument to stop it from loading iirc
[01:53] <escott> jack_, service lightdm stop assuming you are running a display manager
[01:53] <jack_> thank you
[01:53] <psusi> that will do it too
[01:54] <Blackweb> Just curious Does anyone know how to disable a daemon from starting once the OS comes up, I know how to disable it manually from terminal but how would i not start it up at all
[01:54] <chuck634> cindy_ and then "export PATH=$PATH/PathToJava/bin"
[01:54] <Blackweb> For Example samba
[01:54] <escott> chuck634, cindy_ missing a : between $PATH and /PathToJava
[01:54] <chuck634> cindy_ add these command in the end of your /home/.bashrc fils to not have to repeat them in each reboot of your session
[01:55] <escott> !upstart | Blackadder
[01:55] <escott> !upstart | Blackweb
[01:55] <kylesmith> Kiten: well I still don't have access, but I partially figured out the problem. want to hear?
[01:56] <Blackweb> Alright I look into that and go from there ThanKs :)
[01:56] <cindy_> come on guys there are so many ways im being told to do things help me with one way
[01:56] <chuck634> cindy_ escott yes sorry
[01:57] <cindy_> its okay just go slow and help me it should not b this difficult
[01:58] <cindy_> chuck634 can u help me to get my java working
[01:58] <chuck634> cindy_ u know where Java is installed?
[01:58] <cindy_> yes
[01:58] <blackshirt> cindy_: where are you installing java from ?
[01:59]  * tnk1 is back.
[01:59] <cindy_> im not sure it is just in my computer now
[01:59] <slakcphil> in gnome 2.30.2, can i add a home folder icon to my panel the same way i would like if i right-clicked an icon and selected "add to panel"
[02:00] <chuck634> cindy_ if you type "java" in prompt what is the result?
[02:00] <cindy_> install32bitjava
[02:01] <viator> Was Java installed view the software center or the cli. Via. Whether
[02:01] <slakcphil> type, java -version
[02:01] <cindy_> but i have alot of different javas and i dont know y or how
[02:01] <viator> Wget
[02:01] <Kiten> kylesmith, yeah sure every bit of knowledge learn is more to share :P
[02:01] <cindy_> none of them r working
[02:01] <k3g> Trying to install Ubuntu 11.10 on an external USB HD via my Macbook to move to a headless machine, and I'm getting a message stating "Operating System Not Found" error on boot. Any help?
[02:01] <slakcphil> cindy_ i have had quite a bit of coffee myself!
[02:01] <Blackweb> Is there a way also to list amount of ram my systems using compared with the amount i have
[02:02] <escott> Blackweb, free -m
[02:02] <cindy_> thats not funny
[02:02] <chuck634> cindy_ if u type $JAVA_HOME ?
[02:02] <viator> Here's the. Problem oracle. Changed the licensing. For Java. So Ubuntu. Removed it
[02:02] <cindy_> $java_home where
[02:02] <chuck634> cindy_ if u type echo $JAVA_HOME in the terminal?
[02:03] <Blackweb> Thanks :) escott
[02:03] <viator> You can get it from oracle via. Wget.
[02:03] <escott> k3g, (a) not all systems can directly boot a usb device. (b) do you have a bootloader in the mbr?
[02:03] <cindy_> so then how do i get my games to work if we cant have it on the ubuntu
[02:03] <viator> You. Do it in the command. Line
[02:03] <slakcphil> cindy_ what games?
[02:03] <viator> Or
[02:03] <k3g> escott, believe so. Does rEFIt count?
[02:03] <viator> Install. Open jdk
[02:03] <escott> cindy_, the recommened and future versions of java are openjdk based. thats why java6 was removed
[02:04] <escott> k3g, so you are trying to boot a mac?
[02:04] <chuck634> cindy_ it's game online?
[02:04] <kylesmith> Kiten: inside the encrypted home directory are two hidden symlinks, .ecryptfs and .Private which point to /home/.ecryptfs/username/.ecryptfs and /home/.ecryptfs/username/.Private
[02:04] <k3g> escott, yes, so I can install Ubuntu to this HD to move it to my headless machine.
[02:04] <cindy_> okay but java_home is not found
[02:04] <viator> Open jdk is in software center
[02:04] <cindy_> yes it is games online
[02:04] <chuck634> cindy_ that why the program don't find java
[02:04] <cindy_> so how do i do this guys
[02:05] <Kiten> kylesmith, well a temporary work around you might be able chown you home directory
[02:05] <escott> k3g, my understanding is that bootcamp methods work better. macs are 100% compatible with efi so you have a less tested efi boot on a not completely efi system
[02:05] <kylesmith> Kiten: well I used the same username on my laptop and desktop, so when I put my laptop hard drive in my desktop and ran ecryptfs-mount-private the paths were still valid
[02:05] <escott> k3g, rather "are not 100% compatible"
[02:05] <slakcphil> the best way to do games != linux
[02:05] <slakcphil> be real
[02:05] <Kiten> *your
[02:05] <viator> I would open the software center in Ubuntu and search for open jdk
[02:05] <cindy_> so what program does it take for ubuntu
[02:06] <k3g> so escott, I should do a Wubi install via a Bootcamp install? Or am I getting this wrong
[02:06] <kylesmith> Kiten: my workaround was to fix the symlinks.
[02:06] <slakcphil> nix == server distro
[02:06] <viator> And install it
[02:06] <chuck634> cindy_ type sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre in your terminal
[02:06] <slakcphil> unless maybe you are running game server :P
[02:06] <escott> k3g, not just do a bootcamp install and tell the bootcamp stuff you are going to be installing windows, but put the ubuntu disk in instead
[02:06] <chuck634> cindy_ or install open-jdk via the update center
[02:06] <Kiten> kylesmith, yeah you could do that :P or chown it copy the files and chown them then just delete that user and recreate it
[02:06] <k3g> Don't have CD's... Will Bootcamp accept a USB stick instead?
[02:07] <viator> Most people want to help via the command line cause. The don't know what you have installed on your. PC
[02:07] <escott> k3g, when you "use bootcamp to install windows" the mac is really just emulating the bios layer so you can install any pc-compatible bios based os like ubuntu without trouble
[02:07] <cindy_> how do i do that update center
[02:07] <kylesmith> Kiten: did nobody that develops this software think that anyone would use the same username on multiple machines?  It really pisses me off.
[02:07] <viator> Cindy its the software center
[02:08] <viator> Just click on the sniping bag looking icon
[02:08] <viator> Shopping. Bag*
[02:09]  * tnk1 is away: Gone away for now
[02:09] <k3g> escott, giving it a try. Hope all works out. Thanks for the pointer!
[02:09] <Kiten> kylesmith, well it probably does you should just chown the files it may work then
[02:10] <kylesmith> Kiten: ? What probably does what?
[02:10] <cindy_> no matter what do with all these suggestions none of them r working why is that
[02:10] <angela-> cyndy type in the software cebtre by sears jdk he fint it imydely you can in stal it it thid it tjast yet
[02:10] <escott> kylesmith, do you have the same uid for the same username on the different systems?
[02:11] <kylesmith> escott: I dunno, how do I check?
[02:11] <escott> kylesmith, "id" on the two systems will tell you what your id is, or you can grep /etc/passwd
[02:12] <chuck634> welcom to linux world cindy
[02:12] <escott> kylesmith, point is that you can have the same username, but that doesn't mean anything because the usernames are not stored in the filesystem, only the uid is. and so things get broken moving between systems if i am uid 1000 on machine 1 and uid 1001on machine 2
[02:13] <kylesmith> escott: actually, it looks like they're both uid 1000
[02:14] <kylesmith> I must've screwed up the symlinks or something
[02:14] <angela-> soon i start internet radio here i have instalt intenet dj consoll and instalt icecast2 now i have to gonfigure it than i can play
[02:15] <escott> kylesmith, on removable media you probably want to have a relative symlink and not an absolute symlink
[02:16] <lotus-blade> I can not access my windows shares on the network from ubuntu 11.10
[02:16] <lotus-blade> any ideas how to fix this?
[02:16] <kylesmith> escott: well it's not really removable, but the symlinks that were already there were absolute, so I'm just trying to point them in the right direction until I recover my data
[02:16] <chuck634> you can connect to #java channel of freenod, they say that I have to be register but i don't know how to do that
[02:17] <chuck634> i can connect
[02:17] <chuck634> i cannot connect sorry
[02:17] <Retistic> trying to set up postgresql
[02:17] <DeLorean719> I'm using 11.10, and I'm suddenly receiving some errors when trying to run commands like "sudo shutdown -r 0" or even running some scripts. Dmesg shows "lost page due to I/O error on dm-0\nEXT4-fs error (device dm-0): ext4_find_entry:934: inode #1703045: reading directory lblock 0". If I run shutdown -r 0, it says "-bash: /sbin/shutdown: Input/output error"
[02:17] <Retistic> does this mean postgres=# \password $USER my own username
[02:17] <Retistic> ?
[02:17] <Retistic> instead of $USEr
[02:18] <escott> DeLorean719, so thats not good. means your harddrive is probably dying
[02:18] <escott> DeLorean719, use the disk utility to check the smart status
[02:18] <DeLorean719> honestly if anythign was going bad in that pc, I'd pick the HD! (:
[02:18] <pato__> #/server irc.iranserv.com
[02:19] <amagee> in ubuntu 11.10, how can i make it so pressing my windows key doesn't activate the menu panel thingy?
[02:20] <yeats> Retistic: what exactly are you trying to do?
[02:20] <DeLorean719> escott: smartctl?
[02:20] <Retistic> yeats: install postgresql and i'm such a beginner at this its embarrassing
[02:20] <DeLorean719> manpage gives me input/output error as well lol
[02:20] <escott> DeLorean719, or the cli utility :). there is a gui in the disk-utility
[02:20] <CarlFK> I need to install "Sun JDK 1.6." (from http://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/download/index.html) - what's the package name? (and repo I am guessing / hoping)
[02:21] <Retistic> yeats: im reading this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostgreSQL
[02:21] <DeLorean719> ah I'm on a server version of 11.10
[02:21] <DeLorean719> not to mention, sshing into it
[02:21] <DeLorean719> what's the cli utilities name, do you know?
[02:21] <chuck634> CarlFK you can dwl it on the oracle site
[02:22] <escott> DeLorean719, smartctl was correct
[02:22] <crypticmofo> hi all have a question .. i had grub booting a windows install .. i accidently deleted the ubuntu parition that had grub on it and now windows won't boot at all .. also the hdd that i deleted ubuntu off of dosen't boot from a live dvd .. i have one of those usb dongles where the hdd can be read on another computer / anyway to fix ?
[02:22] <CarlFK> chuck634: do I have to?  (hoping to apt-get it from somewhere)
[02:22] <DeLorean719> whatever I pass to it returns nothing (literally no text)
[02:22] <DeLorean719> smartctl -h, smartctl -a
[02:22] <chuck634> CarlFK unzip it somwhere and set your JAVA_HOME and PATH variable with the path
[02:23] <slakcphil> Delorean, i have seen similar errors when an nfs mount was unmounted very uncleanly, `ls` would hang and all sorts of weirf io errors. reboot fixed it
[02:23] <escott> crypticmofo, if you dont want windows anymore boot a windows rescue disk and use the fixmbr command to install the windows bootloader
[02:23] <grape_> i downloaded 10.04 as a torrent, i received an iso file. What do i need to do to get this onto a dvd or cd in a proper format
[02:23] <yeats> Retistic: try substituting your actual username for $USER
[02:23] <chuck634> CarlFK sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[02:23] <slakcphil> Delorean719
[02:23] <escott> Retistic, so what was the question?
[02:23] <DeLorean719> thanks
[02:23] <Retistic> yeats: like $adam or adam
[02:23] <chuck634> CarlFK or install the open-jdk
[02:24] <angela-> crypticomofo you have to install it  and delete all partitions over
[02:24] <pato__> #/server irc.iranserv.com
[02:24] <yeats> Retistic: no $
[02:24] <crypticmofo> escott i want windows .. its my ungle in laws computer now
[02:24] <DeLorean719> was trying to reboot it but couldn't, I'll just have to do it when I have physical access
[02:24] <Retistic> escott: i'm at the password step here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostgreSQL
[02:24] <Retistic> escott: using the alternate method
[02:24] <escott> crypticmofo, sorry thats what i meant. if you want windows but not ubuntu boot the windows rescue...
[02:24] <DeLorean719> hardware problems here don't surprise me, this pc gets a hard shut off every night
[02:25] <crypticmofo> know what i can exchange the hard drives
[02:25] <crypticmofo> i thikn
[02:25] <crypticmofo> or maybe not
[02:25] <Retistic> escott: says role already exists
[02:25] <escott> Retistic, yes so that is saying "I am creating a user with the same name as me for consistency" and then "i want to set a password for the user named my username"
[02:25] <crypticmofo> escott won't that mess up my current machine ?
[02:25] <Retistic> escott: so i use $USER or my actual username?
[02:26] <yeats> Retistic: if the role already exists, then using $USER must have worked
[02:26] <escott> crypticmofo, windows fixmbr might have some tool to do it only on a single disk, but yes if you have this usb attached to another machine fixmbr probably wont help and will mess up the current machine
[02:26] <dr_willis> !burn | grape_
[02:27] <angela-> rypticomofo you can download low lavel format and yous that to you hd
[02:27] <amagee> is it possible to customise the unity keyboard shortcuts?
[02:27] <escott> Retistic, there should be no difference
[02:27] <escott> Retistic, ive never used psql tool but that tutorial certainly suggests it interprets env variables
[02:27] <escott> !ccsm | amagee
[02:27] <pato__patrix> #/server irc.iranserv.com
[02:27] <yeats> Retistic: what happens when you do (within psql) '/password $USER'?
[02:28] <crypticmofo> can i install grub to an external hdd ?
[02:28] <dr_willis> crypticmofo:  yes.
[02:28] <grape_> i know how to burn, i thought the iso wasnt the proper format for installing the OS
[02:28]  * tnk1 is back.
[02:28] <sumosu> crypticmofo: yea
[02:28] <yeats> Retistic: sorry '\password $USER' (backslash, not forward slash)
[02:28] <dr_willis> grape_:  you thought wrong :)
[02:28] <crypticmofo> sufo how ?
[02:28] <Retistic> yeats: when i try the create new user command with my name instead it says role "adam" already exists
[02:28] <escott> crypticmofo, yes, but the difficulty is the boot partition and all the modules in /boot. and if you arent booting linux why have grub
[02:29] <dr_willis> bb later. work time for me.
[02:29] <amagee> escott: i've installed that program, how do i run it?
[02:29] <yeats> Retistic: okay - so what else are you trying to do?
[02:29] <lotus-blade> I am trying to see my network printers, and file systems.  I am getting unable to mount.   any ideas on how to fix this?
[02:29] <sumosu> crypticmofo: the command is grub-install. read the --help
[02:29] <escott> amagee, carefully it can break unity easily :) truth is i dont really know as im not using unity. but i know the option you want is in there
[02:29] <grape_> okay thanks
[02:29] <Retistic> yeats: wait i think it worked
[02:30] <amagee> hmm, ok
[02:30] <amagee> was there someone who actually thought that making people install something called "compizconfig-settings-manager", which can "break unity easily" was a user-friendly way of allowing people to change keyboard shortcuts? :S
[02:30] <Retistic> yeats:  postgres=# \password adam                Enter new password:                      Enter it again:                     postgres=#
[02:31] <jcapinc> how do you identify usb devices in /dev
[02:31] <amagee> escott: what do you use?  are you running 11.10?  i'm really just looking for something that will play nicely with xmonad.. it was nice under gnome 2
[02:32] <angela-> postgressql suks
[02:32] <angela-> remomove it instted of that isal my7sol2
[02:32] <grape_> dr_willis: would i burn as file or burn the contents
[02:33] <CarlFK> "Package 'sun-java6-jdk' has no installation candidate ... package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source"  http://dpaste.de/GWBEj/
[02:33] <yeats> Retistic: sounds good then
[02:33] <Retistic> yeats: not sure where im supposed to enter the next commands
[02:33] <escott> amagee, using gnome-shell
[02:33] <diamonds> I'm trying to install grub on my computer, I'm booting ubuntu from USB
[02:34] <diamonds> I've looked at some guides but I think they're for a newer version
[02:34] <Retistic> yeats: bash or pg console
[02:34] <diamonds> I installed grub from apt-get and it's version 0.97
[02:34] <yeats> Retistic: bash
[02:34] <sumosu> diamonds: what ubuntu versino are you using?
[02:34] <escott> amagee, you cant be using xmonad and compiz. what are you trying to get
[02:35] <amagee> umm, how do i know if i'm using compiz or not
[02:35] <diamonds> sumosu: 11.10 I believe
[02:35] <escott> amagee, ps aux | grep compiz
[02:35] <amagee> ok, i'm not using compiz
[02:36] <sumosu> diamonds: thats the newest
[02:36] <escott> amagee, there are limited tiling functions for compiz and gnome-shell (just ctrl-alt-numkey to place in one part of a 9x9 tile)
[02:36] <amagee> yeah, not really interested in that
[02:36] <sumosu> diamonds: so you booted an install USB like one would boot an install CD/dvd?
[02:36] <zorlac> hello i have lamp and apache2 installed on my machine but no php scripts work or run.  how do i get php to work ????
[02:37] <escott> amagee, then ccsm is not appropriate for you. if you are using xmonad then you would have to configure its keybindings to bring up the unity lens
[02:37] <diamonds> sumosu: I am using unetbootin
[02:37] <amagee> i'm happy to just not have the unity lens
[02:37] <sumosu> diamonds: i have to look that up:)
[02:38] <htmlinprogress> whats a vpn, and whats it for?
[02:38] <jcapinc> how do I get information abotu devices in /dev
[02:39] <amagee> the problem i'm trying to solve atm is pressing my windows key opens up the unity lens, but i use the windows key for xmonad, so that's annoying
[02:39] <sumosu> diamonds: uhm so that is like booting from a cd but it's actually a usb... correct?
[02:39] <yeats> !vpn | htmlinprogress
[02:39] <escott> htmlinprogress, virtual private network. tunnels all network traffic through an encrypted channel to another network. used to ensure that wherever you are you area always inside your home network
[02:40] <diamonds> sumosu: yes
[02:40] <htmlinprogress> escott,  whats,, the last part? huh?
[02:40] <diamonds> sumosu: have you used grub?
[02:40] <diamonds> I'm getting the following error: could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a blocking device
[02:40] <sumosu> diamonds: yes
[02:41] <sumosu> diamonds: have you installed ubuntu to HDD yet?
[02:42] <escott> htmlinprogress, point is you might configure your network storage device to only respond to local requests, and so you would not be able to access files from a hotel, but with a vpn you can configure all your traffic to go through a machine inside your home network, and therefore be able to access your network storage device
[02:42] <diamonds> sumosu: I installed ubuntu, installed it on a stick so I could boot to it for gparted to make room for win7, installed win7, now it boots automatically to win7 but I need to be able to boot back to ubuntu (obv)
[02:42] <escott> !lostgrub | Diamondcite
[02:42] <escott> !grub | diamonds
[02:43] <diamonds> escott: I didn't "lose" grub per-se, I never had it
[02:43] <sumosu> diamonds: i see. so you are booted from usb in order to fix the boot thingy on your HDD
[02:43] <diamonds> escott: does that matter?
[02:44]  * tnk1 is away: Gone away for now
[02:44] <escott> diamonds, do you need to go into your bios and change the boot order so your usb is first?
[02:44] <diamonds> escott: I did, it works
[02:44] <Resistance> !away > tnk1
[02:44] <diamonds> escott: I'm trying to boot to another HDD partition
[02:44] <htmlinprogress> escott, the way your tellin me is ,like a i need a server / or like such
[02:44] <SVNDR> is there any way to make mIRC run better on ubuntu.. or is there any other IRC client, that isnt xchat..
[02:45] <escott> htmlinprogress, if you want to run a vpn yes
[02:45] <androidbruce> SVNDR, weechat-curses, or irssi
[02:45] <sumosu> diamonds: nono wait. are you currently booted into win7 or your usb stick?
[02:45] <htmlinprogress> SVNDR, yes
[02:45] <Ben64> SVNDR: whats wrong with xchat?
[02:46] <diamonds> sumosu: the computer I'm working on is booted tot he thumb drive
[02:46] <diamonds> heh.... #grub just sent me here
[02:46] <sumosu> diamonds: and there is win7 and ubuntu on your HDD and you want to be able to boot into both. correct?
[02:46] <diamonds> sumosu: correct
[02:47] <diamonds> sumosu: I'm trying to... "boot to grub" or however you phrase it
[02:47] <Ben64> then what you want is...
[02:47] <Ben64> !fixgrub | diamonds
[02:47] <diamonds> I can
[02:47] <escott> diamonds, sounds like you need to follow the "lost grub" instructions
[02:47] <diamonds> Ben64: is grub installed on my machine already?
[02:47] <diamonds> I *cannot boot to* my HDD linux install
[02:47] <sumosu> diamonds: yes i understand now. and this is not the moment to mess something up
[02:48] <diamonds> so I don't know if grub is there
[02:48] <diamonds> sumosu: yes
[02:48] <Ben64> grub had to have been there at some point
[02:48] <diamonds> Ben64: ok cool
[02:48] <Ben64> but you can check to see if the /boot directory is there from usb ubuntu
[02:48] <diamonds> I did sudo apt-get grub but that was on the usb "livecd"
[02:48] <Ben64> mount the partition and see
[02:48] <diamonds> I see /boot/
[02:48] <escott> diamonds, if ubuntu ever booted then you had grub at some point in the past and have now lost it
[02:49] <diamonds> escott: ok ty
[02:49] <sumosu> diamonds: grub programs should be therer already... but this is risky. i do not want to take the resposibility and i do not want to google this up for you
[02:49] <diamonds> I have /boot/grub/{device.map,grubenv}
[02:49] <diamonds> OK. I'll read that article
[02:49] <diamonds> thatnks
[02:50] <htmlinprogress> escott, so like i can have a teamviewer type thing ?  and have in on my home ubuntu , with the laptop going through my video connection at my friends house , via their wifi?
[02:50] <sumosu> diamonds: my suggestion would be that you install grub and update-grub. it will automatically find windows and create a chainloader. but i can not promise that this works. so please use the google
[02:51] <escott> htmlinprogress, i didnt follow all that, but i would not recommend using a vpn over a residential connection. if you dont have a symmetric uplink/downlink things will be very slow
[02:51] <sumosu> diamonds: get a second opinion so to speak. i dont want to destroy stuff on your pc.
[02:51] <viator> Teamviwer has a Linux version
[02:52] <viator> Just download the.  .Deb
[02:52] <jcapinc> can someone help me?  I am trying to format a pen drive for my windows using friend who cannot access it, and I cannot identify the device in ubuntu
[02:52] <sumosu> diamonds: by installing grub i mean you force "install-grub" to write a bootblock on the device of your choice
[02:53] <sumosu> diamonds: if it fucks up your windwos bootblock you will need windows tools to repair that... it can be very annoying. so get help from people who know better than me
[02:53] <htmlinprogress> i have 12down;oad and 1.3 up,,  escott,, so im still new to this, so whats that me residential connection. if you dont have a symmetric uplink/downlink things will be very slow?
[02:53] <escott> htmlinprogress, and technically a vpn is a bit more than just a remote access application (like teamviewer) but often people refer to vpns when they really just mean the remote desktop connection
[02:54] <escott> htmlinprogress, so right now you are downloading webpages at 12, but if you were coming in from outside and going through your home network the 1.3 up would be the limiting factor so its about 10x slower
[02:54] <diamonds> sumosu: disclaimer acknowledged! :)
[02:55] <htmlinprogress> what about filesharing?  ... and 2 pc worth 600ish gb to backup ?
[02:55] <diamonds> so boot-repair is running now :)
[02:55] <viator> Von is what you'd use for a remote field.office if you had a sasmall business for instance
[02:55] <SVNDR> androidbruce: sorry i missed what you said up the page.. about mIRC running better, or a better client
[02:55] <diamonds> If this works, I'll take back everything I've ever said about ubuntu
[02:55] <viator> Vpn *
[02:55] <diamonds> j/k :p
[02:55] <sumosu> diamonds: i fucked it all up once. i never lost any windows partition. it's always fixable but it's very ennerving. and your computer might not boot at all.
[02:56] <escott> htmlinprogress, so again resi connections are tuned for webbrowsing and media streaming downlink only. if you are coming in from outside then the uplink becomes the limiting factor and it will be much much slower
[02:57] <CarlFK> unity.. I have 5 terminals open.  each has a unique window title.  how do I see the list of titles so I can swith to one?
[02:57] <escott> diamonds, its not so bad, the main thing is to make sure you install grub on the correct disk and point it at the correct boot partition. you can run the commands by us before you press enter to confirm them
[02:57] <viator> That's when you get.rid.of.windows.
[02:57] <viator> Heh
[02:58] <diamonds> escott: I did it the button way :)
[02:58] <htmlinprogress> i understand.. .. so i seen my andriod has a vpn option .... so whats that mean?   and can i get files when im away?
[02:58] <diamonds> point -> click
[02:58]  * tnk1 is back.
[02:58] <escott> htmlinprogress, your comment about teamviewer suggests you may be more interested in vnc than vpn
[02:58] <diamonds> that is what I was excited about.  it's so... un-*nixy... so easy :)
[02:58] <diamonds> IF it works
[02:59] <htmlinprogress> ??
[02:59] <htmlinprogress> whats the differance?
[02:59] <htmlinprogress> !vnc
[02:59] <escott> htmlinprogress, vnc is gui sharing. often one uses vnc in conjunction with a vpn but its not required
[02:59] <diamonds> aww yeah booting to linux seems to work. Now just to check windoze.
[02:59] <SVNDR> How can i make the text easier to read when running mIRC with wine..?
[03:00] <htmlinprogress> !vpn
[03:00] <sumosu> well. you kinda want to know where the windows equivalent of grub is located so you dont overwrite it
[03:01] <viator> Ntldr
[03:02] <lasher_> I get this error after trying to boot after fresh install input signal out of range.   change settings to 1280 x 1024 -60hz
[03:02] <sumosu> well fine.. you need to know wether its no sda or sda1 or how windows did it. my experiences are XP based but chances are that you overwrite it so that chainloading will not work
[03:03] <sumosu> *no=on
[03:03] <diamonds> where do I set what's autostarted on boot?
[03:04] <diamonds> chkconfig isn't installed :/
[03:04] <diamonds> so I'm assuming there's some special ubuntu way
[03:04] <jcapinc> how do I format a usb drive
[03:04] <escott> !upstart | Diamondcite
[03:04] <jcapinc> to fat32
[03:04] <escott> !upstart | diamonds
[03:05] <escott> Diamondcite, sorry i keep tab completing to you
[03:05] <sumosu> diamonds: maybe. you have to be bold. and you have to backup ALL your data:)
[03:05] <escott> jcapinc, the easiest way is to use gparted
[03:06] <Lesovy> hm
[03:06] <escott> diamonds, unless you meant what os you want to boot. if you want windows to boot first the best way is to rename the /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober to 09_os-prober and then rerun update-grub
[03:06] <diamonds> ?? oh I'm OK there
[03:07] <diamonds> escott: OH no I didn't mean that.  Sorry got confused for a second.  I'm trying to see what starts on boot
[03:07] <diamonds> on load Ubuntu rather
[03:07] <sumosu> escott: the way i understand it diamonds' system does not boot any grub
[03:07] <escott> sumosu, i thought he just got it working
[03:08] <itsnotabigtruck> with 11.10 as a virtualbox guest has anyone had issues after a reboot after installing the guest additions using the restricted drivers manager
[03:08] <sumosu> escott: hmm:)
[03:08] <DrMax> yo. I'm having a CD with two partitions, one which is seen as audio and mounted as cdda://sr0/, and a second one that is not detected, which may contain data. How do I get to mount the 2nd partition ?
[03:09] <itsnotabigtruck> specifically i get display corruption on the vm outside of x, and all i see is the wallpaper, and drop shadows where the unity stuff is supposed to be
[03:09] <escott> DrMax, do you have a /dev/sr1 device you can mount?
[03:09] <DrMax> no
[03:10] <rlg> please someone help, im trying to compile bahamut IRCd, happening error doing the binary daemon
[03:10] <sumosu> DrMax: sounds like a mixed mode cd.. like an audio cd with extra gimmicks
[03:10] <escott> DrMax, if there isn't a detected partition I don't know how you would mount it
[03:11] <DrMax> sumosu : probably... I don't know if it's an extra "hidden" audio track or an iso9960 partition
[03:11] <SVNDR> is there anyway to make mIRC run better with wine?
[03:11] <itsnotabigtruck> interesting...switching the host machine to ATI graphics mode fixedit
[03:11] <sumosu> DrMax: its probably the sony rootkit virus:)
[03:11] <SVNDR> the text doesnt look right, and it lags alot when join channels
[03:11] <lasher_> SVNDR: what's wrong with xchat?
[03:11] <DrMax> sumosu : ah ah no, too old CD for this (1998 or 1999)
[03:11] <colonelqubit> Suggestions on a slide/film scanner? Anyone have a modern flatbed scanner with working TMA?
[03:11] <Bunie> hey guys quick question
[03:11] <SVNDR> lasher_: dont really like it, been using mIRC too long
[03:12] <escott> DrMax, you could try and dd the disk and see if you can make sense of the image in some other way
[03:12] <aeon-ltd> Bunie: go on...
[03:12] <sockbot> Hey all, I recently upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10, and my system wouldnt boot up.  I used something called super grub live cd, and that fixed my server, but now every time i reboot grub is asking me if i want to boot normal, recovery or memtest.  I would like it to default to normal after 5 seconds, and I am having trouble figuring out how to do this.
[03:12] <Bunie> ive seen packages that show game icons for even Nintendo DS roms. Isnt there something for .exe files?
[03:12] <sumosu> DrMax: it could be some windows related loader that would show band photos or what not
[03:12] <sockbot> I have a /etc/default/grub.cfg file and a /etc/grub.conf file
[03:12] <Papafoxytrot> I need help
[03:12] <sumosu> DrMax: i think they did that in and around 2000
[03:12] <Gallomimia> yay it's finally installing
[03:12] <Papafoxytrot> installed ubuntu but when i reboot the bootloader does not show up and goes to windows
[03:12] <Papafoxytrot> do i need to install grub? I would thought that was already installed
[03:12] <escott> DrMax, sounds like one of my old video games... audio tracks and then the game data
[03:13] <aeon-ltd> Bunie: explain more on what you want
[03:13] <urlin2u> Papafoxytrot, youinstall with a usb?
[03:13] <Papafoxytrot> yes
[03:13] <escott> Papafoxytrot, do you have multiple hard drives?
[03:13] <Papafoxytrot> yes
[03:13] <Bunie> aeon-ltd: More simply said. I want windows executables icons to be seen instead of he generic icon
[03:13] <htmlinprogress> escott, so how do i backup my data to a remote pc?
[03:13] <escott> Papafoxytrot, change the boot order in the bios. grub is installed on disk two but disk one is booting
[03:13] <Papafoxytrot> escott, No sorry, its just partitioned
[03:13] <DrMax> escott : it's an extra CD in a boxset
[03:13] <lasher_> SVNDR: I think youd have more luck running mirc in a virtualbox
[03:14] <escott> Papafoxytrot, then nevermind
[03:14] <Teratogen> mirc runs pretty good in wine
[03:14] <aeon-ltd> Bunie: not sure on what defines and attributes exes to icons, but first you need a icon set that contains such a icon for exe files
[03:14] <Papafoxytrot> urlin2u, yes
[03:14] <escott> DrMax, its always possible there is nothing there, but you could dd it and see what the remainder of the data looks like. if its all zeroed out, then its likely just blank
[03:14] <lasher_> SVNDR: and look into adding fonts in wine
[03:14] <Bunie> aeon-ltd: Executables contain icons seen in Windows. I wanna see them in ubuntu
[03:15] <escott> htmlinprogress, so what do you want to accomplish. you just want a remote backup solution?
[03:15] <sumosu> Teratogen: may i lol?:))
[03:15] <urlin2u> Papafoxytrot, the usb if you used one.....may may have the grub it happens, try booting it and see if you get the grub menu.
[03:15] <DrMax> escott : hmm I could. That be ... like, stupid if it was all zeroed out
[03:15] <lasher_> Bunie, I'm pretty sure theres a thing for that in synaptic
[03:16] <lasher_> i can see exe's
[03:16] <lasher_> meh
[03:16] <htmlinprogress> escott, yes
[03:16] <Papafoxytrot> urlin2u, okay, if it doesn't, how do i install just grub
[03:16] <Teratogen> I used to run mirc pretty successfully with wine on my Slackware box
[03:16] <Teratogen> but then I started using xchat and got used to xchat
[03:17] <Teratogen> I still run mirc on my windows boxes
[03:17] <escott> htmlinprogress, if all you need to be able to do is backup your files while you are on the road back to your home network
[03:17] <lasher_> XChat is great
[03:17] <escott> htmlinprogress, then you can do that very easily with a NAS (network attached hard drive) capable of running ssh, and a dyndns entry
[03:18] <Bunie> how can i see windows icons? =/
[03:18] <urlin2u> Papafoxytrot, here is the wiki. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Upgrading
[03:19] <Papafoxytrot> urlin2u, thanks, let me check it out
[03:19] <Amdpc> Hi...My Laptop display goes off after showing the Grub m enu..And after 4-6 tries,It starts...PLease help me to avoid this
[03:19] <fabio> hi, please someone try to helpme, i have ubuntu 11.10 instaled in a compac cq56 i whant to install the grafic card please how can i do it
[03:19] <urlin2u> Papafoxytrot, this is not a wubi is it?
[03:19] <Papafoxytrot> urlin2u, no
[03:19] <urlin2u> Papafoxytrot, cool
[03:20] <Amdpc> fabio : Seen for Available drivers in "Additional Drivers" ?
[03:20] <fabio> yes
[03:20] <aip> xubuntu 11.10: loginscreen gets frozen after some seconds, only password works
[03:20] <fabio> amdpc it dosent apear nothing there
[03:22] <fabio> is there any way that with commands i find out what card this computer have
[03:22] <escott> !nomodeset | Amdpc
[03:22] <rlg> lasher_:  iḿ using kVIRC at the moment
[03:22] <htmlinprogress> escott,  what about to a friends computer
[03:23] <escott> fabio, lshw -class video
[03:24] <escott> htmlinprogress, the same principles apply. if the friends computer is on the same network you dont need the dyndns. the only thing you need to pick is what transfer method to use (there are a number of choices)
[03:25] <escott> htmlinprogress, the main choices for file transfer are: samba for transfer to from windows, ssh for the most secure transfer mode to other linux machines. rsync (over ssh preferred) for bulk transfers
[03:26] <htmlinprogress> !rsync
[03:27]  * tnk1 is away: Gone away for now
[03:28]  * tnk1 is back.
[03:28] <escott> !backup | htmlinprogress these can help you setup a backup process on a regular schedule
[03:28] <Papafoxytrot> urlin2u, so it's installed - is there a way to make it default over mbr?
[03:28] <lalagirl> hello everyone, greetings and happy new year to all
[03:29] <urlin2u> Papafoxytrot, I have no idea what you have done when you say installed, and if from the wiki how well you read it.
[03:30] <urlin2u> Papafoxytrot, I'm not sure what this means as well.  "is there a way to make it default over mbr?"
[03:34] <Papafoxytrot> urlin2u, I mean I think it's already installed, but it doesn't show up when I boot the computer
[03:35] <SVNDR> (putty:10528): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap",  why do i keep getting this error when i run an app
[03:35] <testing123321> testing123
[03:36] <urlin2u> Papafoxytrot, part of grub is in ubuntu if it nstalled correctly without the mbr being written to. The wiki tells you how to load grub to the mbr so grub is the bootloader.
[03:36] <puff_> because it's a grapical install and does not have access to 0
[03:36] <Kiten> SVNDR its best to ignore that GTK apps spit out a lot of debug info when run in terminal
[03:36] <fabio> can someone please assist me in make my card performence better in ubuntu 11.10 card is a Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
[03:36] <SVNDR> Kiten: how else can i run them?
[03:37] <puff_> note: terminals a re not graphic and (0) belongs to root
[03:37] <caesar_> IS there a trick to getting usb devices to work in vbox??
[03:37] <hendaus> hello
[03:37] <puff_> run them just ignore the debug
[03:37] <SVNDR> puff_: is there any other way to run them though?
[03:37] <hendaus> can anyone tell me how to upgrade from sabily 9.10 to 11.10 please?
[03:37] <puff_> !usb
[03:37] <urlin2u> Papafoxytrot, I wonder if that is the problem, it is rather unusual for this exact scenario to happen.If the usb has the grub boot and it got you to the install it would be easier to fix from ubuntu itself.Could be any otherset of problems as well.
[03:38] <puff_> yeah gtk
[03:38] <escott> hendaus, you have to go through all the other versions, a reinstall may be easier see !clone
[03:38] <Kiten> SVNDR well unless you have an x11 server(by this i mean an x11 server that is actually serving not the local loop) you have to run them from terminal
[03:38] <puff_> brb I gotta windows 7 install running I have to check on on another machine (no hell no it is not mine)
[03:38] <SVNDR> Kiten: alright no worries, thanks
[03:38] <caesar_> i'm not trying to install ubuntu from a usb drive
[03:39] <caesar_> i'm trying to get usb device to show in a windoze virtual box
[03:39] <fabio> can someone please assist me in make my card performence better in ubuntu 11.10 card is a Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller  please
[03:39] <Kiten> !ask
[03:39] <Kiten> err whoops
[03:39] <Kiten> forgot which it was
[03:39] <Kiten> any how fabio is it an intel ?
[03:39] <hendaus> escott:  thanx friend, but i have download the latest sabily version so i dont like to erase everything kept on my hard disk
[03:40] <puff_> fabio:displays
[03:40] <fabio> think so kiten
[03:40] <Kiten> apt-cache search intel graphics
[03:40] <fabio> ouff: displays what do u mean?
[03:40] <Bunie> caesar_: I think Virtual Box can do that
[03:40] <fabio> how i do that kiten im new to ubuntu
[03:41] <fabio> apt-cache is that a command
[03:41] <Kiten> yes open a terminal up
[03:41] <fabio> is open
[03:41] <Kiten> its under applications->accessories
[03:41] <edbian> fabio, yes
[03:41] <escott> caesar_, i would not be surprised if the sharing is per bus. so you may have to pick a bus (ie one set of ports on one side of the machine) to share through the virtual box system config
[03:41] <Kiten> now type apt-cache search intel graphics
[03:42] <SVNDR> Kiten: what IRC client do you use?
[03:42] <caesar_> i tried ports on both sides
[03:42] <Kiten> SVNDR xchat for gui, BitchX for terminal
[03:42] <escott> caesar_, but have you tried explicitly enabling sharing of usb
[03:42] <caesar_> i had to add user to group yes
[03:42] <Kiten> *well i probably shoulda used its package name ircII-pana
[03:42] <escott> caesar_, http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/virtualbox-usb.html
[03:42] <fabio> kiten: got no output of that command
[03:42] <Kiten> sorry
[03:43] <Kiten> fabio, type sudo apt-get update
[03:43] <Kiten> then sudo apt-cache search intel drivers after it gets finished
[03:43] <hendaus> escott:  i mean i didnot burn the latest version on a blank cd so thats why i am asking if i do a reinstall everything kept on my hd can be eraise or not
[03:43] <Bunie> i have in intigrated intel card and ubuntu came with the driver
[03:43] <htmlinprogress> !rsync
[03:43] <fabio> kiten: done
[03:44] <fabio> and no output
[03:44] <Kiten> Bunie, he is wanting graphics acceleration
[03:44] <Kiten> uhh fabio it should have some out put
[03:44] <Kiten> does that computer have an internet connection ?
[03:44] <escott> hendaus, in place upgrades do not skip versions so you would go 9.10->10.04->10.10->11.04->11.10 you could reinstall and preserve the home, but you should backup in case it fails
[03:44] <fabio> yes is this computer
[03:44] <Kiten> and you got no output from that
[03:44] <Kiten> ?
[03:44] <fabio> no
[03:45] <Kiten> none at all ?
[03:45] <fabio> apt-cache search intel grafics
[03:45] <fabio> nop
[03:45] <Kiten> apt-cache search intel drivers
[03:45] <Kiten> try that
[03:45] <Kiten> you misspelled graphics too
[03:46] <Bunie> Kiten: I have graphics acceleration >3< I can play 3D Games anyway
[03:46] <fabio> ok i have done that
[03:46] <fabio> is this all?
[03:46] <hendaus> escott:  can u tell me how please coz i am not understanding
[03:46] <Kiten> Bunie, he appears to have an older card
[03:46] <Kiten> fabio did you get a list
[03:46] <fabio> yes kiten
[03:47] <escott> !upgrade | hendaus
[03:47] <fabio> so now i need to download one of that list?
[03:48] <del> OS=10.04-LTS I have a Nvidia NV15 [GeForce2 GTS/Pro] and "Hardware Drivers" finds "no proprietary drivers" for use on this system and so I only get 1024x768 (on my wide-screen monitor).  Is this card just too old to use?
[03:48] <caesar_> escott: the top one is checked.. when i checked the bottom one it gave me some update error and told me to reinstall virtualbox. weird
[03:48] <Bunie> fabio needs to find out exactly what intel graphics he has :P
[03:48] <Bunie> then it'd be easier.
[03:48] <Kiten> you could try this sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel fabio but if you can't get to gui you'll have to login via terminal
[03:48] <Bunie> ubuntu has documentation on pretty much everything
[03:48] <htmlinprogress> rsync, does windows have one?
[03:49] <escott> caesar_, the usb sharing is a newer feature in virtualbox so make sure you have the most recent version (it used to be a feature you had to pay for)
[03:49] <escott> htmlinprogress, yes you can get rsync for windows
[03:49] <Kiten> I don't mean to slap this in but arch has a pretty exhaustive list on their wiki, however ubuntu forums seems to be the friendliest
[03:49] <fabio> bunie anyway i can find whats the exact card?
[03:50] <Kiten> fabio do sudo lshw | grep vga
[03:50] <Bunie> yeah do that
[03:50] <Bunie> Kiten knows more then i do
[03:50] <hendaus> escott: i am asking about sabily 11.10 not ubuntu11.10
[03:50] <Bunie> but if you can find your exact card, odds are ubuntu has a document on it
[03:50] <htmlinprogress> Kiten, ???
[03:50] <Bunie> for intel its usually three letters and/or numbers
[03:50] <Bunie> like GMA 845
[03:51] <Kiten> actually fabio skip that one
[03:51] <fabio> this says : kika@kika-Presario-CQ56-Notebook-PC:~$ sudo lshw | grep vga              capabilities: msi pm vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
[03:51] <Bunie> yeah i think thats the wrong command lols
[03:51] <Kiten> yeah i kinda messed up
[03:51] <fabio> :)
[03:52] <Kiten> should be sudo lshw | grep mobile
[03:52]  * tnk1 is away: Gone away for now
[03:52] <htmlinprogress> Kiten, so does ach have a flavor for netbook?
[03:52] <escott> !ot | hendaus
[03:53] <fabio> kiten: mobile gets no output
[03:53] <Bunie> does he have intel graphics? this CQ56 review says radeon HD 4250
[03:53] <Kiten> fabio do lshw | grep radeon
[03:53] <Kiten> if you get out put you do not have intel graphics
[03:53] <escott> Kiten, fabio lshw -class video
[03:54] <Bunie> yeeh thats right escott, take 'em to school ;D get it? class? ._.
[03:54] <Kiten> escott, yeah i didn't know about the -class flag
[03:54] <hendaus> escott:  so i am looking if anyone can help me coz i dont know much on ubuntu so trust me
[03:54] <Kiten> i always just weeded through it manually
[03:54] <Bunie> ohh this walmart.com page says it has
[03:54] <Bunie> intel GMA 4500M
[03:54] <Bunie> should we go with that?
[03:55] <escott> hendaus, since you arent running ubuntu there isn't much we can do but point you to ubuntu docs
[03:55] <burrito_> my ubuntu one will not sync my documents folder.  10.04
[03:55] <escott> !alis | hendaus maybe there is a sabily channel
[03:55] <fabio> here is the output http://pastebin.com/tNqLJ5S3
[03:55] <escott> fabio, you have intel graphics
[03:56] <Bunie> Kiten: go with what i found on the walmart.com page GMa 4500M
[03:56] <fabio> ok so now can i make it better performance?
[03:56] <fabio> im trying to play HON on this and is kinda slow
[03:56] <Bunie> hon?
[03:56] <fabio> yes
[03:56] <fabio> Heroes of newearth
[03:56] <escott> fabio, its a fairly awful graphics card
[03:56] <Kiten> fabio is this a netbook /laptop or desktop
[03:57] <fabio> yes i know but in windows is good enouf
[03:57] <fabio> is a notebook
[03:57] <Kiten> fabio you know how much ram it has ?
[03:57] <fabio> think it have a shared memory
[03:57] <Bunie> Heroes of Newerth is running playably?
[03:57] <fabio> yes
[03:58] <Bunie> then you have drivers installed, im pretty sure :S
[03:58] <fabio> but more slow here then in windows
[03:58] <Bunie> well no offence to ubuntu
[03:58] <Bunie> but thats natural
[03:58] <Bunie> lols
[03:58] <fabio> bah
[03:58] <fabio> should not be
[03:58] <Bunie> someone else might could give you a better answer
[03:58] <fabio> any tricks can be made?
[03:58] <Kiten> fabio well i meant mb/gb
[03:58] <fabio> to improve
[03:58] <Bunie> im reading something about three different Intel drivers with different performances
[03:58] <Bunie> not worth it :P
[03:59] <fabio> humm bunie maybe i should try one of those drivers for better performance?
[03:59] <Bunie> the forum post is like 2 years old
[03:59] <Bunie> its probably not even relevant anymore
[03:59] <fragged_t> Hey all, I've got a USB pedal joystick I wish to set up for use under Linux to perform tasks for a disabled person, currently, pressing the pedals is interpreted as a b or c depending on which pedal is pressed, is there any way to remap this device without remapping the keyboard
[04:00] <puff_> heh you want better performance try AMD 64bit architecture
[04:00] <Kiten> fabio are you running ubuntu 11 ?
[04:00] <Bunie> i dont think 64-bit increases performance puff_
[04:00] <Tech-1> bulldozer ftw
[04:00] <puff_> Bunie: sure it does
[04:00] <Kiten> bulldozer is over rated ;p
[04:00] <fabio> kiten yes 11.10
[04:00] <Gallomimia> dang. i just got a working cdrom plugged into this system and now it still won't boot
[04:00] <Bunie> puff_: pretty sure it doesnt :P but k lols
[04:00] <Gallomimia> just keeps grinding the drive
[04:01] <Kiten> fabio hmm you should have good drivers already then
[04:01] <escott> fragged_t, and you are seeing this in xev?
[04:01] <fabio> :( ok im trying to google some trick
[04:01] <Kiten> fabio you could switch destkop environments to improve speed
[04:01] <Kiten> i'd recommend lxde or fluxbox or xfce
[04:01] <Bunie> Kiten: gnome is pretty cpu efficient :P
[04:01] <Kiten> gnome is kinda sluggish
[04:02] <fabio> can i run it out of grafic mode?
[04:02] <Kiten> but definitely faster than kde
[04:02] <fabio> to get more memory free
[04:02] <Bunie> lol kde
[04:02] <Bunie> KDE uses 25% of my cpu just to sit there
[04:02] <fabio> humm
[04:02] <fabio> and gnome better?
[04:02] <Bunie> your using gnome already
[04:03] <lasher_> im stll on gnome2
[04:03] <Kiten> fabio i'm not sure what you mean you mean launch it from terminal ? no you have to have x11 running in order to get the windows/graphics
[04:03] <Kiten> !lxde | fabio
[04:03] <fabio> kiten?
[04:03] <htmlinprogress> Bunie,  i told you yesterday
[04:04] <Bunie> Told me what? o.o
[04:04] <Bunie> i didnt ask anything
[04:04] <Kiten> !desktop | fabio
[04:04] <puff_> actually gnome is fast on here
[04:04] <Bunie> yeah gnome is fine
[04:04] <Bunie> it uses no cpu to idle
[04:04] <fabio> ok got it
[04:04] <Bunie> well, very little
[04:04] <Kiten> yeah but if you want lightweight i'd use fluxbox or lxde
[04:04] <fabio> so anything can be made to free more cpc?
[04:04] <fabio> cpu*
[04:05] <Kiten> well any *box but flux is just my favorite
[04:05] <Bunie> its your gpu i think
[04:05] <Bunie> are you running the game over Wine?
[04:05] <puff_> unity is awesome
[04:05] <fabio> no
[04:05] <fabio> its a linux version
[04:05] <Bunie> Ah
[04:05] <Kiten> hmm its probably your graphics card
[04:05] <Bunie> if the Windows version uses D3D That could also be the difference in performance
[04:06] <puff_> !tweak
[04:06]  * puff_ slaps ubottu around a bit with a rotten trout
[04:08] <Kiten> fabio if you aren't to involved in your current setup you could install lubuntu
[04:08] <Agamemnus> Hello
[04:09] <Agamemnus> Does anyone know how to use GIT?
[04:09] <Agamemnus> For instance, to get fbc.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/fbc/fbc
[04:09] <Agamemnus> I installed it but.
[04:09] <panikkos> hey guys I have a problem with my laptop, my fan won't speed up causing the computer to heat up very fast and turn off, I have tested the fan and it seems to work fine by it self. However when everything is wired up it stays at very low speeds
[04:09] <Bunie> Agamemnus: I have no idea. but try "git pull bc.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/fbc/fbc"
[04:09] <escott> Agamemnus, git clone git://fbc......
[04:09] <Bunie> or clone
[04:09] <Bunie> yeh its clone
[04:09] <Bunie> xD
[04:09]  * tnk1 is back.
[04:09] <Agamemnus> thanks guys
[04:10] <Gallomimia> hey can someone tell me what it means when the screen goes black while trying to boot a livecd?
[04:10] <Bunie> Gallomimia: could mean alot of things
[04:10] <Agamemnus> looks like clone is working
[04:10] <escott> !nomodeset | Gallomimia
[04:13] <htmlinprogress> Gallomimia,  my guess is , that the screen is getting fitted
[04:14] <Bunie> does the black screen have a blinking "_"?
[04:14] <Bunie> in the very top left corner?
[04:14] <Bunie> :P
[04:14] <puff_> rofl
[04:14] <Bunie> hey its a valid question i think xD
[04:15] <Kiten> Bunie, yeah ;p lol
[04:16] <panikkos> hey guys I have a problem with my laptop, my fan won't speed up causing the computer to heat up very fast and turn off, I have tested the fan and it seems to work fine by it self. However when everything is wired up it stays at very low speeds
[04:17] <Groselha> algum brasileiro ?
[04:17] <escott> !pt | Groselha
[04:18] <xrandr> Hi, I am running ubuntu 11.10 and samba. I'm trying to access a share on my ubuntu box that i created with the file manager (nautilus) from a windows 7 box and cannot. I can see the share but when i double click it to open the folder windows says it can't find the share.
[04:19] <Agamemnus> how do you rename a file from the command line?
[04:19] <xrandr> any ideas on how i can fix this?
[04:19] <escott> Agamemnus, mv file newfile
[04:19] <xrandr> Agamemnus: mv oldfile newfile
[04:19] <Agamemnus> thx
[04:19] <htmlinprogress> !rsync how do i use it/ how to send file to a reomote desktop
[04:20] <escott> htmlinprogress, is this rsync to windows?
[04:20] <htmlinprogress> rsync how do i use it/ how to send file to a reomote desktop
[04:20]  * tnk1 is away: Gone away for now
[04:20] <escott> htmlinprogress, and you are using that phrase "remote desktop" which has a special meaning in the windows world
[04:20] <k3g> Weird request, but does anyone know of any hosted .iso's (or other formats) of minimal Ubuntu installs that I could download to clone over to a disk? I've given up trying to be able to boot from what I have....
[04:21] <Bunie> xrandr: Ive never shared on ubuntu. have you tried going to "//PCNAME" on windows?
[04:21] <xrandr> Bunie: yes, and it shows the share, but when i double click the share it says it can't find it
[04:21] <htmlinprogress> this is from my ubnutu 10.10 to windows 7 ulimite  ,, full backup
[04:22] <Bunie> try naming the share something simple
[04:22] <xrandr> i did, videos :)
[04:22] <escott> htmlinprogress, so doing rsync to windows is harder because you have to install an rsync server on windows. you may find it easier to just mount a samba share and backup onto the samba share
[04:22] <nimbiotics> Hello all.1) How do I modify $PATH so I can execute a bash file on a given path. 2) I wrote a bash file with a simple cd command (/Documents/Projects/dabo/$1) but it is not changing anywhere. I do get an error if I use a non existent path for %1 though.
[04:23] <Bunie> try naming it VIDEOS lol. idk.. somone else will need to help you
[04:23] <htmlinprogress> ok,,, thats a I-dont know-much  thing...  or how to
[04:23] <escott> htmlinprogress, you can still use things like rsync onto samba shares although you dont get any rsync benefits from doing that
[04:24] <SVNDR> Anybody running mIRC with WINE in here??
[04:24] <sparrow2> nimbiotics: I think path is defined in /etc/environment
[04:24] <escott> htmlinprogress, it would help if you can be more specific about things. we know you are backing up to windows, but is the windows computer on the same network or on another network? do you need to be able to backup from outside the network or is that optional
[04:25] <htmlinprogress> SVNDR,  i think i used it before
[04:25] <SVNDR> htmlinprogress: do you have any idea how to make the text in the windows look more like Windows based?
[04:25] <escott> nimbiotics, when you run a script it spawns a new shell that shell gets the new working directory and immediately closes
[04:25] <htmlinprogress> escott,  i am doing this through the internet
[04:26] <SVNDR> htmlinprogress: i installed a Human theme for wine, that said it should make it look more natural, but it didnt really help.. and it runs slow too
[04:26] <nimbiotics> escott: Is there a way to change that?
[04:26] <escott> htmlinprogress, so the remote computer is not on the same network, but is literally the house next door
[04:26] <Gallomimia> htmlinprogress, bunie: no it's black. much text scrolled past earlier
[04:26] <escott> nimbiotics, you want an alias. and it should go in your ~/.bashrc
[04:27] <nimbiotics> escott: thats exactly where I started, but couldnt make it work
[04:27] <Hamled> Hi, How would I install the screen package from this branch? https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/debian/experimental/screen/experimental I need a version of screen with the changes that were pushed in the most recent revision
[04:27] <escott> nimbiotics, did you logout or start a new terminal?
[04:27] <Hamled> is it just build from source?
[04:28] <nimbiotics> escott: Not yet, I know I have to do it, but I tried the alias first but couldnt make it work
[04:29] <ibodi> what's the best version of ubuntu to install today ? thanks
[04:29] <Bunie> ibodi: Mostly an opinion based answer is all you will get with that question
[04:29] <escott> htmlinprogress, in order to backup to the computer at the house next door the following needs to be done: (a) the house next door needs to establish a dyndns entry and keep it updated, (b) the house next door needs to pick a port to forward on its router to the computer you will backup to, that port should be appropriate for service method you want to use, (c) samba would be the easiest service to use but I would not feel comfortable ope
[04:29] <escott> ning a samba port to the outside so it might be better for your neighbor to install an ssh server and if he is doing that he might as well install rsync so you can use that
[04:30] <escott> nimbiotics, so its just "alias newcommand='cd /path/to/directory'
[04:30] <ibodi> Bunie: are you happy with 11.10 or are you currently using other versions ?
[04:30] <Agamemnus> how do I fix a message that says I need root priveleges?
[04:30] <htmlinprogress> http://wiki.jswindle.com/index.php/Fonts    SVNDR
[04:30] <Agamemnus> "You need root priviledges to access /usr/local"
[04:30] <escott> !sudo | Agamemnus
[04:31] <Bunie> ibodi: I'm using lubuntu 11.10 with gnome installed
[04:31] <Agamemnus> ahhh so that's what sudo does!
[04:31] <nimbiotics> escott: I tried [alias test='cd ~/Documents/Projects/dabo/'], but when I run [test somepath] it just goes to [~/Documents/Projects/dabo]
[04:31] <escott> nimbiotics, yes... and what did you expect it to do?
[04:31] <Bunie> Agamemnus: from what i know, sudo = command line root request, kgsu = graphical root request
[04:31] <Bunie> gksu*
[04:31] <elsid> hello I cant install unityshell-rotated plugin
[04:31] <ibodi> Bunie:  does that means mint12 is easier for the dummy to install the latest ubuntu
[04:32] <nimbiotics> escott: move to ~/Documents/Projects/dabo/somepath
[04:32] <escott> nimbiotics, ahhh then you need a bash function
[04:33] <SVNDR> damn this is annoying
[04:33] <nimbiotics> escott: lol, just what I thought. but I couldnt make it work and thats why I came here with my first 2 questions :)
[04:33] <acidfrost> ibodi, well the really only hard part is well partitioning your hard drive and thats not really that hard so you could just have ubuntu manage it automatically
[04:33] <escott> nimbiotics, function test { cd "/path/to/folder/$1";}
[04:33] <acidfrost> ibodi, * of ubuntu of course
[04:34] <nimbiotics> escott: would that be the only line in my bash?
[04:34] <htmlinprogress> escott,  can you pm this info.. so i can remember how to do this
[04:34] <stepnjump> My operapluginwrapper makes a weird noise sometimes... sounds like drums, I wonder what that could be
[04:34] <escott> nimbiotics, i think that should work. give it a try
[04:35] <ibodi> acidfrost: install ubuntu is easier nowadays; however still feeling funny about use of 11.10
[04:35] <Guest89692> im on 11.10, when gnome 3 loads, the top panel appears for a second then disappears. Is there a command to reset gnome 3 to factory default?
[04:35] <acidfrost> ibodi, if your looking for difficult i'd recommend gentoo
[04:36] <elsid> need help installing unityshell-rotated plugin
[04:37] <ibodi> acidfrost: well. just feel like the u11.10 gui is not as handy as 10.04
[04:37] <acidfrost> yeah i'm not a big fan of unity either
[04:37] <acidfrost> i'd rather use gnome 2
[04:37] <acidfrost> or flux
[04:37] <ibodi> acidfrost: unity designed for netbook looks, however our desktop screen is very huge. so 10.04 works handy.
[04:38] <black> New to ubuntu.Need resources to learn terminal commands.Anyone know whare? :3
[04:38] <acidfrost> black linuxquestions.com(might be .org)
[04:38] <ibodi> acidfrost: what are you currently using ?
[04:38] <acidfrost> 10.10(upgraded from 10.04 yesterday)
[04:38] <acidfrost> ironically i'm on a netbook ;p
[04:39] <nimbiotics> escott: doesnt work....
[04:39] <black> ubuntu11.10
[04:39] <acidfrost> i have noticed that using the desktop iso for a netbook does introduce some glitches with displaying windows
[04:39] <black> lol nvm
[04:39] <black> thank you acid frost
[04:40] <escott> nimbiotics, did you source your .bashrc?
[04:40] <acidfrost> black yeah just search on there there is tons of good articles
[04:40] <escott> nimbiotics, it might be an issue with the "~" you might want the full path there
[04:40] <black> I will begin research.I've become interested in this OS and aim to master it. :D
[04:41] <black> thanks again.peace
[04:41] <acidfrost> black, oh and of course a couple words of advice when you want to learn more rather than google it, type man -k topic
[04:41] <nimbiotics> escott: I dnt know what u mean by 'source'
[04:41] <black> ahh alright thank you ^_^
[04:41] <acidfrost> and if you want to know command flags --help or -h is pretty much universal on most programs
[04:41] <escott> nimbiotics, type ". $HOME/.bashrc"
[04:42] <black> ok.taking this all in.appreciated
[04:42] <acidfrost> black and if you do cd /usr/bin then type ls you will see a list of programs that you can then do man -k name of program to find out the man page name then type man pagename
[04:42] <acidfrost> black a good starter is man ls
[04:43] <acidfrost> *"man ls"
[04:43] <black> quotations included?
[04:43] <acidfrost> nah just man ls
[04:43] <acidfrost> i did the quotes to make it stand out
[04:43] <black> ok
[04:43] <black> lol
[04:43] <black> thank you kindly
[04:43] <acidfrost> use the arrow keys to navigate
[04:44] <acidfrost> the titles you see with man -k are what you can then type man title
[04:44] <acidfrost> for
[04:44] <nimbiotics> escott: The output is [dircolors: /home/nimbiotics/.dircolors: No such file or directory]
[04:44] <black> ahh ok cool cool
[04:44] <escott> nimbiotics, thats fine, does the function work now?
[04:45] <nimbiotics> escott: nope, not even after using full path
[04:45] <escott> !paste | nimbiotics send us your .bashrc
[04:45] <acidfrost> hehe i  could fill a small book with knowledge(although i will admit there are people who could do things better/more efficient than i can)
[04:46] <atvr> does anyone know if its possible to reset plasma to its original (default) setting in command line
[04:46] <atvr> because i have accidently disabled my task bar and desktop and now i cant enable it back :S
[04:46] <nimbiotics> escott: where do i find it?
[04:46] <black> well thank you for the small bit you have imparted to me.
[04:47] <acidfrost> atvr you could reinstall it
[04:47] <black> peace XD
[04:47] <escott> nimbiotics, where did you put this function?
[04:47] <acidfrost> black no problem ;p
[04:47] <atvr> acidfrost how, do you know the command for that :)
[04:47] <nimbiotics> escott: OIC
[04:47] <escott> nimbiotics, OIC?? what does that mean
[04:47] <acidfrost> sudo apt-get remove (not sure of the package name assuming its plasma)
[04:47] <acidfrost> sudo apt-get remove plasma (see text above0
[04:48] <acidfrost> *)
[04:48] <deathbysushi> have a question if someone could help, thanks :)
[04:48] <escott> acidfrost, that won't touch his config in ~
[04:48] <nimbiotics> escott: OIC=Oh, I see!.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/791296/
[04:48] <atvr> and then sudo apt-get install plasma ??
[04:48] <escott> atvr, not a kde user but you might check if there are any hidden directories ~/.kde or ~/.plasma which might have the config files
[04:48] <acidfrost> escott well then sudo apt-get purge plasma
[04:49] <acidfrost> i might be wrong but isn't plasma a crucial part of kde ?
[04:49] <escott> acidfrost, still not going to do do anything for him. it won't touch his home folder its just going to break his kde setup
[04:49] <acidfrost> escott, see above
[04:49] <almoxarife> acidfrost: I do believe, yes
[04:50] <atvr> hey almoxarife
[04:50] <acidfrost> ahh then atvr i would not do that
[04:50] <escott> nimbiotics, so that function line should be in the file ~/.bashrc
[04:50] <urlin2u> deathbysushi, askaway.
[04:50] <atvr> okay
[04:50] <acidfrost> i assumed plasma was a dock thing
[04:50] <escott> acidfrost, yes it is. so why are you telling him to remove it
[04:50] <acidfrost> like most people want nowadays
[04:50] <acidfrost> escott, i'm afraid your meaning of dock and mine differ
[04:50] <escott> atvr, don't remove plasma
[04:51] <acidfrost> atvr, listen to escott
[04:51] <atvr> escott, ok
[04:51] <nimbiotics> escott: Thats is the whole cotent of the files as I haev have it right now. I named it project. Do I have to add the .bashrc?
[04:52] <escott> atvr, your plasma config is in some hidden directory like ~/.kde and renaming that folder and logout/login may get you back to a default setup
[04:52] <nimbiotics> escott: *content
[04:52] <almoxarife> escott: what would default be?
[04:52] <escott> nimbiotics, so ~/.bashrc should already exist. you want to add a single line to that.
[04:53] <escott> almoxarife, what it would be for a new user who has never configured kde
[04:53] <dijonyummy> is there a way to easily block internet connections for a program on my pc
[04:54] <dijonyummy> i used to use commodo when under windows
[04:54] <escott> atvr, its a bit drastic (all your kde config for all programs would be gone), so you might want to look for a better way
[04:54] <almoxarife> escott: I am confused, is it like getting rid of gnome?
[04:55] <chamunks> can anyone help me figure out how to use aticonfigure command?
[04:55] <nimbiotics> escott: I'm totally lost here. Whre u say ~/.bashrc, are you refering to my file? If so; what The link shows is the whole file, which I named project; or do yoiu mean that I muts name file project.bashrc?
[04:55] <chamunks> The amdcccle will not save any changes.
[04:55] <chamunks> it saved the first ones than hated me ever since.
[04:55] <escott> almoxarife, no its like renaming ~/.config
[04:55] <chamunks> I have two ati cards with two monitors.
[04:55] <atvr> escott, do you know an other way the enable back the desktop and taskbar
[04:55] <escott> atvr, no i dont but im not a kde user
[04:56] <atvr> escott, thanks anyway :) i will google to see :)
[04:56] <almoxarife> atvr: if you wanted to run gnome/unity I would look for the package 'ubuntu-desktop', install it, then look for it at log in, should be that simple, but crippling kde to get gnome/unity probably won't get you either
[04:57] <atvr> almoxarife, i have explained what is my problem in your prvt tchek for that :)
[04:58] <chamunks> can anyone provide any suggestions for this?
[04:58] <escott> nimbiotics, thats not right. you should have more to your .bashrc than that. if you nuked your .bashrc you can cp /etc/skel/.bashrc ~ to get a default copy back, but you will have to chown username:username ~/.bashrc back to yourself
[04:58] <almoxarife> atvr: I am not receiving private, I have to allow for that, we can if you would like, just a minute
[04:58] <chamunks> noone seems to support fglrx at all :S every time i come here and drop an fglrx bomb noone ever touches it :(
[04:58] <atvr> almoxarife, okay i would like :)
[04:58] <escott> chamunks, multiple cards single server is not well supported AFAIK
[04:59] <chamunks> escott, well i can get it mostly working my issue is mainly that the amdcccle will not save its changes so it forces me to learn undocumented commands.
[04:59] <almoxarife> escott: if I get rid of /.config , won't I lose every conf regardless of which desktop it was meant for?
[05:00] <escott> almoxarife, thats why i would rename it not remove it
[05:00] <escott> almoxarife, but yes
[05:00] <Gallomimia> so.... still booting from the cd and the scroll lock and caps lock lights are blinking. the drives aren't grinding anymore
[05:00] <Gallomimia> know what that means?
[05:00] <almoxarife> escott: sounds scary, perhaps I won't then
[05:00] <escott> almoxarife, atvr im really confused who is having what problem here. hopefully what i suggested made sense to at least one of you
[05:01] <Ben64> Gallomimia: kernel panic
[05:01] <almoxarife> escott: I came in late, sorry, and thanks
[05:02] <atvr> almoxarife, prvt me
[05:02] <Gallomimia> that's awesome. it hasn't even booted :P
[05:02] <escott> almoxarife, not a problem. i just didnt realize you were having the same issue as atvr
[05:02] <Gallomimia> thanks tho
[05:02] <nimbiotics> escott: you are killing me :( my user name is nimbiotics. Do I hev to type chown nimbiotics:nimbiotics ~/.bashrc?
[05:02] <Ben64> Gallomimia: could be a problem with the cd or the computer
[05:02] <nimbiotics> escott: *have'
[05:02] <escott> Gallomimia, do you know if there is anything odd about your hardware
[05:02] <Gallomimia> not the cd. i've tested it on another system
[05:02] <escott> nimbiotics, yes
[05:03] <Gallomimia> yes. i know my hardware is totally fucked
[05:03] <escott> nimbiotics, sudo chown actually
[05:03] <nimbiotics> escott: after cp?
[05:03] <escott> nimbiotics, yes
[05:03] <Gallomimia> i swapped the cdrom out so it finally works
[05:03] <Gallomimia> the rest of the hardware seems to be.... alright
[05:05] <almoxarife> escott: no, not so much that problem, my problem has more to do with controlling gtk/gnome apps appearance in a kde environment, they tend to look dam dogged, also I struggle with the sound system trying to decide whether its being managed by kde or gnome, but I think I created that animal using gnome sound with cairo-dock on a kde desktop
[05:06] <nimbiotics> escott: done
[05:07] <escott> nimbiotics, now if you open ~/.bashrc in your text editor there should be lots of stuff and you can add that function line at the bottom
[05:07] <almoxarife> atvr: what's broke?
[05:07] <nimbiotics> escott: and use the name of my function instead of the command?
[05:08] <Guest39313> do u play dvd movies
[05:08] <atvr> almoxarife, i have disabled the taskbar and desktop, so now i dont have taskbar and the desktop is black, i want to get plasma to its original setting or simply get back the taskbar and the desktop
[05:09] <almoxarife> atvr: talking kde?
[05:09] <escott> nimbiotics, im sorry i didnt follow. you add the function mycommand { cd "/path/to/whatever/$1"; } to your .bashrc and then you "source" your bashrc by typing ". ~/.bashrc" at which point mycommand folder should cd into the desired folder
[05:09] <Guest39313> do hacok whith
[05:09] <almoxarife> atvr: lets talk in #kubuntu
[05:09] <Guest39313> ops
[05:09] <atvr> almoxarife, what is kde
[05:09] <Guest39313> dvd movie work in ubunthu
[05:09] <almoxarife> atvr: kubuntu
[05:10] <escott> !dvd | Guest39313
[05:10] <atvr> almoxarife,  yup im there
[05:10] <Guest39313> do play dvd movies
[05:10] <dr_willis> Guest39313: yes
[05:10] <TrD> !mp3 | Guest39313
[05:11] <nimbiotics> escott: sry but I dnt know what u mean by "source"
[05:11] <TrD> mmm
[05:11] <escott> Guest39313, if you are having trouble playing a dvd there is a commonly missed step of running /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[05:11] <escott> nimbiotics, it means "import the list of commands into the current bash environment" it is accomplished by the "." command
[05:12] <escott> nimbiotics, if you dont source the bashrc bash won't realize it has changed
[05:12] <jacob_> do u play dvd on it
[05:14] <nimbiotics> escott: I get a "no such file or dierctory" error when I type [.~/.bashrc]
[05:14] <escott> nimbiotics, a space before the ~
[05:14] <nimbiotics> escott: same
[05:14] <nimbiotics> escott: NO, sry
[05:15] <nimbiotics> escott: its OK now
[05:15] <nimbiotics> How do I use the function now
[05:15] <escott> nimbiotics, functionname folder
[05:15] <escott> nimbiotics, whatever you decided to call it
[05:16] <nimbiotics> escott: much better, but now working yet. It does go to "my/root/folder/" but not to "my/root/folder/project"
[05:17] <jmdyck> ubuntu-newbie here: it seems I can't resize my firefox window. Is that a feature of Unity?
[05:17] <escott> nimbiotics, and what does the function line look like?
[05:17] <escott> nimbiotics, sounds like you had a space between /my/root/folder/ and $1
[05:18] <escott> nimbiotics, it should be cd "/my/root/folder/$1" with no space'
[05:19] <nimbiotics> escott: I have [function project { cd "home/nimbiotics/Documents/Projects/dabo/$1";}]
[05:19] <escott> nimbiotics, rather than dealing with all this editing the bashrc you can type directly in the command line function project { cd "/home/nimbiotics/Documents/Projects/dabo/$1";} and test until it work
[05:19] <nimbiotics> escott: should I use single quotes?
[05:19] <jmdyck> Also: my launcher appears to be stuck. How do I make it retract?
[05:20] <escott> nimbiotics, no you want double quotes, and you need a / before home
[05:20] <escott> nimbiotics, once you get the function working make sure to put the working version in the .bashrc
[05:22] <caesar_> escott: re-installed vbox to latest version and everything seems to be working fine
[05:24] <SVNDR> can i 'su' from terminal??
[05:25] <SVNDR> everytime i try i get an error
[05:25] <escott> !sudo | SVNDR
[05:25] <escott> !root | SVNDR
[05:26] <nimbiotics> escott: I changed the name of the fucntion in the CL and it worked. shoudl I just logout/in?
[05:26] <SVNDR> escott: how long how you been waiting for some to ask?
[05:26] <SVNDR> lol
[05:26] <grape_> should i burn linux to dvd as file or conents
[05:26] <escott> nimbiotics, just make sure the working version is in the .bashrc but sure logout/login and you should be fine
[05:26] <grape_> contents*
[05:26] <escott> SVNDR, just a common question
[05:27] <nimbiotics> escott: THX a BUNCH!!!
[05:27] <SVNDR> escott: ok, but really.. is there a way.. or nah?
[05:27] <nimbiotics> escott: and God Bless you
[05:27] <escott> SVNDR, su and sudo do different things. you cannot su because the root account is disabled
[05:28] <SVNDR> escott: and im guessing there is no was to enable it?
[05:28] <escott> SVNDR, there is but I'm not going to tell you
[05:28] <SVNDR> escott: ok lol
[05:29] <agamemnus> how do i check where something is installed?
[05:29] <agamemnus> =]?
[05:30] <escott> grape_, if you are burning an install disk you need to burn it as an image file. the ubuntu.com website gives instructions for a few common burner applications
[05:30] <escott> agamemnus, apt-file or dpkg can help, but files end up in a number of places. its not like windows or mac see !hier
[05:31] <agamemnus> k thx
[05:32] <A_J> hey all, my flash player in firefox is acting Jerky, flash video's lagg and don't play smoothly. I'm running Ubuntu 10.04LTS. What should I do /
[05:32] <puff_> A_J: try upgrading to 11.10
[05:33] <motherbrain> I have created a bash script is their away to run it by clicking on it... sort of like you do in windowa for executables...
[05:33] <A_J> puff_: it's no better in 11.10 tbh
[05:33] <puff_> motherbrain:set it executable
[05:33] <agamemnus> escott--so if the program is named "fbc", wat would I type?
[05:33] <escott> motherbrain, it needs a shebang "#!/bin/bash" on the first line, and it needs to be marked executable "chmod +x yourscriptfilename"
[05:33] <oYeVoVeYo> My laptop can't connect to internet, wired or wireless. someone plz help
[05:34] <agamemnus> what*
[05:34] <escott> motherbrain, also useful to put it in ~/bin (create the folder if it doesnt exist
[05:34] <escott> agamemnus, try fbc if thats not it try f[TAB][TAB] and it will list all programs that have a first letter of f
[05:34] <puff_> can be sort of risky though better to just exec it
[05:35] <agamemnus> err
[05:35] <agamemnus> apt-file ???
[05:36] <escott> agamemnus, apt-file is better for stuff you havent installed. dpkg is faster for things you have installed
[05:36] <agamemnus> i'm just trying to figure out if i have duplicae installs
[05:36] <escott> agamemnus, dpkg -L "full-package-name"
[05:37] <motherbrain> well is their away to have someone click on it with out the execute file dialog box asking them execute , execute in terminal , open , cancel?
[05:37] <agamemnus> i'm sorry
[05:38] <agamemnus> i'm retarded.. i dunno the full package name.
[05:38] <escott> motherbrain, i think you need the shebang.
[05:38] <oYeVoVeYo> Someone plz help >.< My laptop can't connect to the network, wired or wireless, when I do ifconfig it can sense wlan0 but just can't connect to the net, HEEEEELLPPP
[05:38] <escott> agamemnus, dpkg -l "*pattern*" to figuree that out
[05:39] <agamemnus> still retarded
[05:39] <agamemnus> michael@michael-VirtualBox:~/FreeBASIC$ dpkg -l *f* No packages found matching fbc. No packages found matching fblogo.ico. No packages found matching fblogo.xpm. No packages found matching manifest.
[05:40] <motherbrain> yes I have the !#/bin/sh and executable bit on chmod a+x but whenever I click on it I still get the dialog box?
[05:40] <motherbrain> prompting me
[05:40] <escott> agamemnus, so a little lesson in bash. you didn't quote *f* and so bash expanded it and what you ran was dpkg -l fbc fblogo.ico fblogo.xpm and any other filename in the working directory with an f in it
[05:40] <agamemnus> oh
[05:40] <escott> agamemnus, so dpkg -l "*fbc*" but there is no such package
[05:40] <A_J> motherbrain: which program is used for allocating more than 3.2gb ram in 32bit ubuntu.
[05:41] <escott> A_J, there is a kernel feature called PAE but there is no program to do that
[05:41] <escott> motherbrain, #! not !# right?
[05:42] <A_J> escott: some one here had told me to do something to access all my ram. what was it ?
[05:42] <agamemnus> maybe it doesn't count as a package? it is a compiler
[05:42] <escott> A_J, you probably want to install the PAE kernel
[05:42] <motherbrain> I meant #!
[05:42] <motherbrain> sorry
[05:43] <motherbrain> A_J not sure maybe /dev/kmem
[05:43] <Ben64> the easiest thing to do would be to install 64 bit
[05:43] <A_J> Ben64: clean install is not an option
[05:43] <A_J> !PAE
[05:43] <agamemnus> but anyway, if it installed to /usr/local, how do i explicitly run it from there?
[05:43] <A_J> ty escott
[05:43] <motherbrain> escott I got what you have  and it still gives me the dialog box
[05:44] <escott> motherbrain, im not sure
[05:45] <escott> motherbrain, i guess thats a rather annoying anti-feature of nautilus
[05:45] <pdtpatrick> Okay seriously -- what's the appropriate workaround for google with apt-get .. its always stuck on waiting for headers. Even after creating a file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/<filename> that holds Acquire::http::Timeout "300";
[05:45] <agamemnus> it's getting to be likelt that there are no dupes
[05:45] <motherbrain> I am on wattos but similar to ubuntu
[05:45] <agamemnus> thanks anyway escott
[05:45] <escott> motherbrain, you could create a desktop entry for your application
[05:47] <motherbrain> I just want the begining user to beable to on button backup their harddrive ... my script does all the work except I want to make it as easy as possible to run it...
[05:47] <escott> motherbrain, then make a desktop entry either with alacarte or by hand
[05:48] <motherbrain> I have tried a symlink but that gave me the dialog box again
[05:48] <escott> motherbrain, desktop-file-[install|validate] will be useful here
[05:49] <motherbrain> desktop-file is this a utility / program because it is not on my distro and apt-get desktop-file doesn't get it?
[05:50] <escott> motherbrain, its part of desktop-file-utils. these are command line utils to validate desktop files (aka launcher files) and put them in the right place for global access
[05:50] <aaschez> Is it safe to have linux-headers-generic, linux-image-generic, linux, linux-headers-generic-pae, linux-headers-image-pae and linux-image installed after having linux-headers-3.0.0-14 generic?
[05:51] <escott> aaschez, shouldnt be a problem
[05:51] <aaschez> thanks
[05:52] <widewake> hey there. i accidently deleted my bottom panel that displays programs opened, mozilla, folders etc. ive created a new panel however it does not display anything im using.
[05:53] <Ben64> you need to re-add everything
[05:54] <motherbrain> ok thanks that word alacarte
[05:54]  * puffin tickles lolzer.
[05:55] <widewake> k got it
[05:55] <lolzer> :) pufiin
[05:55] <passs> what is the command to change all file and folders permissions in httpdocs ? I want all permisions to 777
[05:56] <Ben64> passs: chmod changes permissions
[05:56] <passs> Ben all filed and folders to 777
[05:56] <passs> how can i edit the command to do that?
[05:56] <motherbrain> I see now you could do it by hand if you created a file called filename.desktop and add the correct parameters like Type=Application , Exec=yourprogram %U
[05:57] <grape_> i had the option to burn the distro iso as image or contents on to the dvd i was going to install with. I chose contents and it did not work, do i need to burn it as a file?
[05:57] <Ben64> passs: chmod 777 <file>
[05:57] <puffin> -R flag applies it to all files in a directory
[05:57] <puff_> sudo chmod
[05:58] <puff_> r is recursive
[05:58] <puff_> careful with that one
[05:58] <passs> you confused me guys
[05:58] <Ben64> passs: "man chmod"
[05:58] <passs> so what command i have to paste #?
[05:58] <Ben64> nice manual for chmod
[05:59] <oYeVoVeYo> Hey um, can spomeone plz help with my laptop?? :( It's acer Aspire 4750G and I had 10.04 LTS installed but it can't connect to the net wired or wireless
[05:59] <SVNDR> How can i download fonts for ubuntu and install them? specificaly 'Fixedsys'
[06:00] <Gallomimia> heh. restarted that install off my cd. it didn't kp this time. now the mouse cursor is showing in the center of the screen but i can't move it
[06:00] <puff_> !wireless | oYeVoVeYo
[06:00] <oYeVoVeYo> kay thanks
[06:00] <puff_> that means wait Gallomimia
[06:01] <Gallomimia> no it's been like that for an hour
[06:01] <puff_> slow machine?
[06:02] <brophat> when i try to update a particular software package i get the error msg "The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources."
[06:02] <puff_> brophat: you have to ask yourself if you want to go on
[06:03] <brophat> puff_ yes I do
[06:03] <z_> Hi. I am trying to download an ISO to my  memory card, like this:  wget -c http://sourceforge.net/projects/dreamstudio/files/latest/download?source=files --directory-prefix=/media/EOS_DIGITAL/ But I get an error message: Cannot write to `/media/EOS_DIGITAL/download?source=files' (Invalid argument). Is this the right way to download ?
[06:03] <brophat> puff_ the problem is it does not let me go on
[06:04] <Ben64> z_: -O <output file>
[06:04] <brophat> puff_ my question is how do I get it to go on and ignore that the packages are not authenticated
[06:07] <z_> Ben64: It does not work:  wget -c http://sourceforge.net/projects/dreamstudio/files/latest/download?source=files -O /media/EOS_DIGITAL/
[06:07] <Ben64> z_: /media/EOS_DIGITAL/ is a directory, not a file
[06:07] <brophat> when i try to update a particular software package i get the error msg "The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources." and offers me no way to go on anyway.
[06:08] <z_> Ben64 Yeah, I want to downloaad the file to that directory
[06:08] <Ben64> you need to specify a file with -O
[06:08] <z_> Ben64 How can I download a file to that directory, What option?
[06:08] <Ben64> put a filename : /
[06:09] <z_> Ben64: Ok, so it should be like this? wget -c -O http:www:ISO /media/EOS_DIGITAL
[06:09] <Ben64> O_o
[06:09] <z_> I am sorry, I am no expert
[06:10] <chromaticwt> do I have to use ubuntu to access my ubuntu cloud?
[06:10] <Ben64> why do you need to use wget? why not go to the website and right click on the link and select "Save target as"
[06:11] <z_> Ben64 Because the wifi signal is not reliable, so sometimes its gone, I need wget to try all night,
[06:12] <Ben64> just specify a filename on -O
[06:12] <Ben64> one that doesn't exist already
[06:13] <Stanley00> Hi, I'm using Oneiric on my laptop, when I try to connect to an unsecure wifi network, my system freeze, my wireless card is AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express). What should I do?
[06:14] <z_> Ben64 Can you please tell me exactly how to write that in the terminal? I dont get it
[06:14] <Stanley00> chromaticwt: do you mean ubuntu one?
[06:14] <Ben64> z_: you can call it whatever you'd like
[06:16] <motherbrain> just use base64 command
[06:17] <motherbrain> or if your learning it is a good lesson to write your own base64.... base conversion stuff
[06:17] <motherbrain> it really is pretty easy to do an alot are on google ...in explaining how to do it ;)
[06:19] <z_> !google
[06:20] <mebigfatguy> wow
[06:20] <mebigfatguy> google-fu? like how to search?
[06:20] <Stanley00> interesting... I never notice that new user dont have goolge-fu :))
[06:21] <z_> Many of us use Bing
[06:21] <motherbrain> well , did answer his question first
[06:22] <oYeVoVeYo> puff_, it says: In case your wireless card is not automatically detected, you must download and install the driver manually. Plug in your laptop via ethernet (as the wireless probably doesn't work) and install this package:   but when I plugged in the ethernet, it still couldn't connect to the internet
[06:26] <WhiteHorse> my wireles connection stopped working... is there any "repair connection" like in windows? How do I suppose to solve the issue... I have Ubuntu 11.10 with the new Desktop
[06:30] <krodik> Hi there!
[06:32] <krodik> Anyone can help with an installation of Ubuntu 11.10 on a Dell Studio 1555?
[06:33] <airtonix> dell studio 1555 specs (for anyone wanting real information) : http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/dell_studio_1555
[06:33] <airtonix> krodik: it helps to provide this when asking for help.
[06:34] <Gallomimia> cursor still stuck in the center of the screen. all booting appears to have ceased
[06:40] <newmember> I am trying allow a user to run things with sudo, how do I add a user to use sudo?
[06:41] <vouth> newmember: apparently there's something called the sudoers file.
[06:41] <vouth> newmember, just a minute, I'll look online about it for you
[06:42] <vouth> newmember: Ah, this looks like it should work: http://benaiah41.wordpress.com/2008/08/15/37/
[06:44] <lyn> any body?
[06:45] <vouth> lyn, what's your question?
[06:46] <lyn> my english is pool ,can I speak chinese?
[06:46] <Stanley00> Hi, I'm using Oneiric on my laptop, when I try to connect to an unsecure wifi network, my system freeze, my wireless card is AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express). What should I do?
[06:46] <Stanley00> !cn | lyn
[06:48] <lyn> And I want to have a friend
[06:48] <Stanley00> !ot | lyn welcome you in here
[06:49] <vouth> I've accidentally gotten it so every time I run something using sudo I get: "No protocol specified (process:pid): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0"
[06:52]  * boobear is away: Gone away for now
[06:52] <pellos> i need to move a directory. what is the command ?
[06:53] <Stanley00> boobear: please turn off that away message, thanks
[06:53] <Stanley00> pellos: mv doesn't work?
[06:54] <pellos> filemng: Error occurred during /bin/mv command.
[06:54] <pellos> I HATE PLESK
[06:54] <vouth> pellos: mv
[06:54] <Stanley00> pellos: can you post all error message
[06:55] <newmember> vouth: I tried adding users to sudoer but when prompted for a password, the password fails.  Is the password the same as the users password or the root password?
[06:55] <vouth> Um, I was a bit behind the times there, sorry :-P
[06:55] <pellos> what syntax should i use for mv command? i need to move oldsite to httpdocs folder
[06:55] <Stanley00> pellos: mv source dest
[06:56] <Stanley00> pellos: and make sure you have the write permission
[06:57] <newmember> pellos: maybe try the '-v' option to watch whats happening      mv -v  /source  /destination
[06:57] <puff_> I think I may yave exceeded the speed limit on the phenom it locked up at 3336.7mghz
[06:58] <Kronen> newmember: you should use the user's password
[06:58] <vouth> newmember: Type 'sudo adduser [user] admin', replacing '[user]' with the name of the user being added and omitting the quotation marks. Then, it should prompt you for a password. If you yourself are already an administrator (able to sudo), that will be your password.
[06:58] <pellos> newmember: i need to move all the contents of oldsite to httpdocs
[06:58] <vouth> Kronen, sorry, you got there first :-D Probably because I wound up writing a novel. With no real reason.
[06:59] <pellos> not just the folder
[06:59] <pellos> how that will work?
[06:59] <vouth> pellos: cd to the relevant directory, then run: mv oldsite httpdocs
[07:00] <vouth> pellos, on second thought, do you want the folder 'oldsite' inside httpdocs, or do you want it renamed 'httpdocs'?
[07:00] <puff_> sudo mv -r oldsite newsite
[07:00] <joebobjoe> What is the easiest way to access home directory from server over file share?
[07:01] <pellos> mv: cannot stat `httpdocs': No such file or directory
[07:01] <vouth> puff_: do you even need the -r? I just tried on a sample directory without it and it worked fine
[07:01] <pellos> how is that possible.. i can see the httpdocs dir
[07:01] <vouth> pellos, are you in the directory in which httpdocs resides?
[07:02] <pellos> yes
[07:02] <newmember> pellos: mv -v /sourcedirectory/*   /destination/
[07:02] <vouth> pellos, that's just weird. I must confess I have not a bloody clue. Sorry :-P
[07:03] <vouth> pellos: do you see it in the output of ls?
[07:04] <pellos> newmember again :)  mv: cannot stat `/jupgrade/*': No such file or directory
[07:05] <Stanley00> pellos: can you please post all the command you run, and the output of "pwd && ls"
[07:05] <newmember> pellos: is your source directory a symbolic link?
[07:05] <Stanley00> !paste
[07:06] <Stanley00> pellos: I think "pwd && ls -l" will be better
[07:07] <pellos> check this http://paste.ubuntu.com/791354/
[07:08] <A_J|> hey folks. can some one help set up some automation when i boot up ubuntu, i want my pc to login into both user accounts, and in one user account start a certain program
[07:08] <Stanley00> pellos: yes, that's it... you dont know about absolute path and relative path, do you?
[07:09] <pellos> stanley no . i am new to all this
[07:09] <pellos> i have to use full path you mean ?
[07:09] <Stanley00> pellos: yes, use full path
[07:09] <Stanley00> pellos: or dont start a path with "/" ;)
[07:10] <vouth> pellos, paths beginning with / indicate that they are in the root directory
[07:10] <Stanley00> A_J|: login into 2 account at the same time is not possible.
[07:10] <A_J|> Stanley00 well i want to login so i can access it later on via ssh
[07:10] <pellos> thanks it worked :)
[07:11]  * oYeVoVeYo pokes DBoyz, am here
[07:13] <Stanley00> A_J|: if so, just start up service ssh,
[07:13] <Stanley00> you dont need an account to login to do that
[07:14] <A_J|> but i require deluge to startup Stanley00
[07:14] <A_J|> on one account
[07:15] <bullgard6> I forgot what utility transforms  mtime="1325534892" in a human-readable format?
[07:16] <mile123> A_J|: probably 'screen' utility will help
[07:16] <Stanley00> A_J|: you just can auto run an app after an user has login, but cant auto login an user
[07:18] <pellos> stanley plesk or cpanel ?
[07:19] <Stanley00> pellos: what do you mean
[07:19] <pellos> i think cpanel works better with ubuntu instead of plesk
[07:20] <Stanley00> pellos: I dont know about that, I'm just an normal desktop user :D
[07:20] <vouth> How can I mount a partition that's not in the fstab from the command line?
[07:20] <llutz_> bullgard6: date -t @<your-epoch-timestamp>
[07:20] <llutz_> date -d *   sry
[07:21] <Stanley00> vouth: you can use the mount command
[07:21] <cordoval> i have a big folder i want to scp, what is the way to do this, tar it and gzip it and then scp ?
[07:21] <Stanley00> vouth: ex "sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mountoint"
[07:21] <vouth> Stanley00: I tried. sudo mount /dev/disk/by-label/LABEL: mount: can't find /dev/disk/by-label/LABEL in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[07:21] <vouth> Aah, I forgot the mount point. D'oh
[07:22] <vouth> Thanks :-P
[07:22] <llutz_> cordoval: rsynx -aux dir/  user@host:/path/dir
[07:22] <Stanley00> vouth: you are welcome ;)
[07:22] <llutz_> grr, rsync*
[07:26] <cordoval> llutz_ rsync -aux /usr/local/www/  cordoval@mydomain.com/home/cordoval/site.com
[07:26] <cordoval> ?
[07:26] <cordoval> i wonder if i have rsync installed
[07:26] <cordoval> this is freebsd
[07:26] <llutz_> cordoval: this is #ubuntu
[07:27] <cordoval> i know the machine to which i am connecting is #ubuntu too
[07:27] <cordoval> and my lappy is ubuntu
[07:27] <motherbrain> I have a cd live distro is their an easy way to make another menu entry on it with alacarte and somehow have it maintain it's state on reboots... (without remastering/creating another livecd)
[07:28] <cordoval> so llutz_ rsync -aux /usr/local/www/  cordoval@mydomain.com/home/cordoval/site.com  ?
[07:28] <llutz_> cordoval: rsync -aux dir/  user@host:/path/dir             you miss the ":"  (man rsync)
[07:28] <Stanley00> motherbrain: sadly no, AFAIK
[07:28] <motherbrain> All I want to do is beable to give somebody this cd and have him execute this one button backup script I wrote
[07:28] <cordoval> oh
[07:29] <cordoval> so llutz_ rsync -aux /usr/local/www/  cordoval@mydomain.com:home/cordoval/site.com  ?
[07:29] <Stanley00> motherbrain: you can make a persistent USB to do that
[07:29] <cordoval> it is just that i see a happy face
[07:29] <bullgard6> llutz_: '~$ LANG=C date -t @1325534892; date: invalid option -- 't'.'
[07:29] <llutz_> cordoval: check destination path
[07:29] <llutz_>  08:20 < llutz_> date -d *   sry
[07:29] <motherbrain> can you make a persistent cd/dvd instead?
[07:29] <llutz_> bullgard6: ^
[07:30] <Stanley00> motherbrain: no, persistent need to write to USB, so you cant do that with CD/DVD
[07:30] <llutz_> bullgard6: i corrected my typo, "date -d @<epoch-timestamp>"
[07:31] <bullgard6> llutz_:  Yes, this works all right. Thank you very much for our help.
[07:31] <linuxuz3r> is there a .profile for ubuntu
[07:32] <motherbrain> so , i guess the only way if I wanted to give him a cd/dvd is to remaster / recreate the iso with that menu item on it/desktop button on it.... damn damn just time consuming
[07:32] <linuxuz3r> .profile i mean that it loads when ever shell configuration you have when you log in
[07:32] <bullgard6> linuxuz3r: Do you mean bashrc?
[07:32] <linuxuz3r> thats for bash
[07:33] <linuxuz3r> i wondering for all shells
[07:33] <linuxuz3r> .profile
[07:33] <llutz_> linuxuz3r: it should be there after creating a new user
[07:33] <cordoval> llutz_:  can i do it bringing files from ubuntu box?
[07:33] <cordoval> i wonder
[07:33] <cordoval> since i dont want to install rsync on freebsd
[07:33] <llutz_> cordoval: man rsync  (rsync -au user@host:/path /local/path)
[07:34] <cordoval> ?
[07:35] <cordoval> pkg_add -r -v rsync
[07:42]  * tnk1 is back.
[07:43] <cordoval> man is so complicated
[07:43] <cordoval> i may just tar zip the whole folder and then scp
[07:43] <cordoval> will that be faster?
[07:43] <cordoval> i want it now
[07:44] <cordoval> http://webhostingneeds.com/Install_rsync_in_freebsd
[07:44] <llutz_> cordoval: nobody here cares about freebsd
[07:44] <cordoval> i know meneither
[07:44] <cordoval> just wish there could be a way
[07:45] <cordoval> to fetch from ubuntu box files in freebsd box
[07:45] <helmut_> hi
[07:52] <bpr> how can i configure sshd so that the only way people can ssh is if they have an accepted key (ie. password login is disabled)?
[07:52] <bpr> ssh in is*
[07:53] <llutz_> bpr: man sshd_config (PasswordAuthentication)
[07:53] <bpr> llutz ty
[07:53] <geoffmcc> bpr: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2008/11/3-steps-to-perform-ssh-login-without-password-using-ssh-keygen-ssh-copy-id/
[07:53] <Snowie> Hi all. Trying to configure sun java  as per http://www.java.com/en/download/help/linux_install.xml#rpm . Anyone tell me how to modify ln's for chrome. or better yet. anyone here play minecraft in their browser on 11.10. if so, what's your configuration
[07:54] <bpr> geoffmcc: that's not really what i was asking
[07:54] <bpr> but thanks
[07:55] <geoffmcc> bpr: maybe its not the link i thought, thought there was a section in there about disabling it in sshd.conf. sorry
[07:55] <llutz_> bpr: when changing sshd_config make sure to keep a root session open for bugfixing....
[07:56] <bpr> llutz_: good tip
[08:00] <mr-russ> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdvdread/+bug/377414https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdvdread/+bug/377414
[08:00] <A_J|> !pae
[08:00] <mr-russ> In that message, it says to enable natty-update/proposed, how do I do that?
[08:00] <A_J|> umm i did that, it did not work
[08:00] <A_J|> the pae thing
[08:01] <mr-russ> A_J|: how much RAM is in the machine?  4G
[08:01] <A_J|> yes mr-russ
[08:02] <A_J|> it's allocating just 3.2gb
[08:02] <mr-russ> A_J|: unless you computer support memory hoisting, or memory remapping, you just lose the RAM.
[08:03] <A_J|> mr-russ i think it does
[08:03] <mr-russ> A_J|: I've still got problems with a 3 year old pc with 4G RAM.  all of your devices are mapped into the 3.2-4G space so you can use regular ram from there.
[08:03] <mr-russ> A_J|: do you have it enabled if it does.
[08:03] <mr-russ> output of dmesg where the memory is printed at time 0.000  says where the ram is allocated.
[08:04] <mr-russ> and if it's addressable above 4G.  I can't even get 64bit to recognise more than 3.3G.
[08:07] <cyberworm54> this my be a question out of contest but How do I request a clock?
[08:08] <A_J|> mr-russ damn demsg does too much to pastebin via ssh :(
[08:08] <A_J|> any idea's ?
[08:08] <mr-russ> just the top bit.
[08:09] <dr_willis> cyberworm54: a clock for what
[08:09] <A_J|> comes something like 000000000000000000000=000000000000000000000000
[08:09] <A_J|> o/ dr_willis
[08:09] <dr_willis> moo!
[08:09] <A_J|> lol
[08:09] <A_J|> ur a cow O.O
[08:09] <mr-russ> [    0.000000] BIOS-provided physical RAM map:  <-- and follwoing 10 lines
[08:10] <A_J|> mr-russ wait a sec i'll get u a proper pastebin
[08:11] <cyberworm54> dr_willis hide ip
[08:11] <dr_willis> cyberworm54:  cloak... you said clock.
[08:12] <dr_willis> !cloak
[08:12] <A_J|Unix> umm, what was the command again
[08:13] <cyberworm54> dr_willis thank you sorry for the misspelling
[08:14] <Humbedooh> cloaks are for evul people with misdoings!
[08:14] <A_J|Unix> umm i cannot copy the top part, seems i cannot scrool
[08:14] <A_J|Unix> scroll*
[08:15] <Humbedooh> dmesg | tail ?
[08:15] <Humbedooh> or dmesg > somefile.txt ?
[08:15] <A_J|> okie Humbedooh will try that
[08:15] <Humbedooh> or was that another user..
[08:16] <arulmozhi> just now i hav installed ubuntu 11.04... cannot run unity why?
[08:17] <Humbedooh> ah the top of dmesg, that'd be "dmesg | head" then
[08:17] <akpk> Hello
[08:17] <Humbedooh> tail would provide the..tail :>
[08:17] <dr_willis> arulmozhi: missing 3d video drivers main cause of that
[08:17] <akpk> I have installation problems with xampp ?
[08:17] <arulmozhi> i hav nvidia 8400gs card
[08:18] <mr-russ> a_j|: dmesg | head -n20
[08:18] <dr_willis> yiu installed the nvidia druvers yet arulmozhi ?
[08:18] <akpk> Can anyone help me ?
[08:18] <A_J|Unix> mr-russ: : http://pastebin.com/spKVhiGU
[08:18] <mr-russ> akpk: xampp seems very windows
[08:19] <dr_willis> !lamp
[08:19] <arulmozhi> i tried the Addditional Drivers from System--> Administration  no response...
[08:19] <A_J|Unix> !flash
[08:20] <dr_willis> arulmozhi: try installing the nvidia-current package
[08:20]  * tnk1 is away: Gone away for now
[08:20] <mr-russ> a_j| [    0.000000]  BIOS-e820: 0000000100000000 - 0000000130000000 (usable)
[08:20] <mr-russ> you have stuff above 4G, so you have a chnce
[08:21] <llutz_> !away | tnk1
[08:21] <arulmozhi> dr_willis: thanx i'll try it
[08:21] <mr-russ> a_j| Linux version 2.6.32-35-generic (buildd@vernadsky)
[08:21] <dr_willis> :-)
[08:21] <A_J|> mr-russ how do i use it then
[08:21] <Katronix> Hi all, if you want a server to be a web server what all does it need besides apache and php?
[08:22] <Katronix> or is there a meta package I can install?
[08:22] <Stanley00> Katronix: I think that's enough
[08:22] <llutz_> !lamp | karbas_
[08:22] <dr_willis> some data to serve.....
[08:22] <mr-russ> a_j| getting there.  You need a PAE kernel installed, which you don't seem to have.
[08:22] <Katronix> Stanley00 what about for like bind and stuff? this server will also be its own name servers
[08:23] <Stanley00> !lamp | Katronix
[08:23] <mr-russ> a_J| per my last post which included you Kernl line.
[08:23] <Stanley00> Katronix: name server is "dns", right?
[08:24] <A_J|> mr-russ i installed it, nothing happened
[08:24] <Katronix> yes
[08:24] <A_J|> !pae
[08:24] <Humbedooh> pft, now you're nitpicking, Stanley00  :p
[08:24] <A_J|> i used this : sudo aptitude install linux-generic-pae linux-headers-generic-pae
[08:24] <dr_willis> !bind
[08:24] <Humbedooh> !bind9
[08:24] <Humbedooh> boo
[08:25] <Stanley00> Humbedooh: what do you mean? Sorry, my English is not good.
[08:25] <Humbedooh> nevermind, Stanley00 :)
[08:25] <Humbedooh> Katronix, if you need BIND, then install it :>
[08:25] <Flannel> I believe you're looking for
[08:25] <Flannel> !dns
[08:26] <harsh343> I am trying to intall ZendServer-5.5.0_Tarball_M40-php5.2.17-linux-glibc23-x86_64 from terminal but not able to do that
[08:27] <harsh343> how it is possible ?
[08:27] <harsh343> right now i am here volition@volition-H61M-DS2:~/Downloads$
[08:27] <Stanley00> Humbedooh: haha, I got it, just make sure he got noticed... =))
[08:28] <A_J|> mr-russ. waiting for you
[08:28] <dr_willis> harsh343:  you extracted the archive files?
[08:28] <Humbedooh> harsh343, uhm.. tar -zvxf Zendserverandsoon
[08:28] <harsh343> yes
[08:28] <Humbedooh> does if have a configure script?
[08:28] <dr_willis> read the install readme?
[08:29] <harsh343> Humbedooh, yes this file contains install.sh
[08:29] <harsh343> but when i click on this nothing happens
[08:29] <Humbedooh> runit from a terminal plzkthx
[08:29] <dr_willis> use the shell.. dont click
[08:30] <Indiana> A
[08:30] <harsh343> ok but how ?
[08:30]  * tnk1 is back.
[08:30] <Humbedooh> open a terminal window thingy :>
[08:30] <dr_willis> ./foo.sh
[08:30] <dr_willis> bash basics ;)
[08:30] <Humbedooh> accessories > xterm or whatever, then cd Downloads and ./install.sh
[08:30] <harsh343> dr_willis, i am trying this but nothing happens
[08:31] <solofight> people i wanted to create a rsa login for a different user other than root. so i did a su username and generated rsa keys. added the public in authorized keys file, restarted ssh and tried accessing that server from local using the private key but it says permission denied (public key)
[08:31] <solofight> how to debug the same
[08:31] <llutz_> !away > tnk1 switch it off pls
[08:31] <dr_willis> there may be some readme files to read harsh343
[08:31] <A_J|> !away
[08:32] <harsh343> dr_willis, this folder does not contain any read me files
[08:32] <Humbedooh> do you know how to open a terminal window, harsh343 ?
[08:32] <dr_willis> check its homepage perhaps. we are just guessing in the dark
[08:32] <mr-russ> a_J| what's uname -a say for itself?
[08:33] <dr_willis> it may need other tools installed first
[08:33] <harsh343> Humbedooh, this is the link what i am trying http://pastebin.com/R7cvmnXQ
[08:33] <A_J|win> Linux XXX-XXX 2.6.32-35-generic #78-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 11 15:27:15 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:33] <Katronix> there wouldn't happen to be a website that will write the config files for bind for me would it? IE: I answer a few questions, and it does all the thinking? :-)
[08:34] <mr-russ> A_J|win: I'm sure you need PAE kernel there.  I'm trying to find a 32bit machine I can login to to find it for you.
[08:34] <Humbedooh> some scripts don't like being called as root, maybe you should try with out the whole sudo thing
[08:35] <A_J|win> mr-russ, well i teied an install of it using sudo aptitude install linux-generic-pae linux-headers-generic-pae. It downloaded something but nothing happened
[08:35] <mr-russ> A_J|win: did you reboot?
[08:36] <A_J|win> yes mr-russ
[08:36] <mr-russ> A_J|win: well, the PAE kernel isn't running as the uname says PAE.
[08:36] <mr-russ> A_J|win: so my guess is it's booting the wrong kernel, but why is difficult over IRC.
[08:37] <Humbedooh> Katronix, you could try webmin?
[08:37] <llutz_> !webmin | Katronix Humbedooh nobody wants to use webmin
[08:37] <Humbedooh> (although I shouldn't say such)
[08:37] <Humbedooh> llutz, shove off with that :p
[08:38] <A_J|win> is llutz_ an obvious bot :O
[08:38] <tanzhen1988> is there any body?
[08:38] <Humbedooh> well he's nitpicking for sure :)
[08:39] <Humbedooh> Webmin works fine for managing BIND, has nothing to do with package installation
[08:39] <Kimmen> Katronix: webbind perhaps
[08:39] <ServerSage> tanzhen1988: What was your question?
[08:39] <bullgard6> Humbedooh: Stop denouncing honourable people here in this channel. Please.
[08:40] <tanzhen1988> no question
[08:40] <Humbedooh> denouncing?
[08:42] <slikts> I wish it was possible not to autogroup unity icons for the same app
[08:42] <werever> hi! anybody can help me to find information about login to a private folder wich owner was deleted?
[08:42] <slikts> and to have the Unity dock horizontal
[08:42] <Humbedooh> I'd say complaining about webmin's package management software is well off-topic when discussing BIND configurations, so I'm well within my right to use the word nitpicking
[08:42] <A_J|win> slikts i wish for the second thing too
[08:43] <slikts> A_J|win: the first thing makes it hard to use the icons, there's an additional step to select anything
[08:43] <slikts> in essence, if I have more than one window per app in one screen, there's a penalty
[08:44] <slikts> I have enough screen estate to not benefit from the grouping, not to mention autohiding :/
[08:44] <theadmin> Humbedooh: If a part of webmin is broken, we can well consider all of it being so.
[08:44] <llutz_> Humbedooh: oyu might be right, but the problem is that people, once webmin is installed, will start to use it for other tasks too. that's likely to break stuff.
[08:45] <slikts> unity dock now feels like it was made for netbooks and netbooks only, I just don't get it
[08:45] <Humbedooh> luttz, that may be, but it wasn't my impression that the discussion was of total computer management
[08:45] <theadmin> slikts: Use something else then
[08:45] <slikts> and also: the always-on backlights for Unity dock hide the profile/shape of the icon, making it harder to see
[08:45]  * A_J|win *waves to theadmin*
[08:45] <theadmin> slikts: gnome, KDE, XFCE... Unity is a work-in-progress and is pretty much useless so far
[08:45] <slikts> theadmin: like what? I want a dock
[08:46] <slikts> I like the dock windows 7
[08:46] <slikts> *in windows 7
[08:46] <werever> please help me to mount an encrypted folder, the owner doesnt exist anyore, only his home folder and his private folder encrupted
[08:46] <Humbedooh> but can we please stop with words like "denouncing", that's overly dramatic for one saying "nobody wants" and the other responding "nitpick" :)
[08:46] <theadmin> slikts: Oh, a dock? Hm... xfce4-panel can be made to resemble Windows 7 almost exactly, but honestly if you keep using Unity you'll have to keep both
[08:47] <slikts> theadmin: I'll look at it
[08:47] <llutz_> s/nobody/nearly nobody/ i'll correct me ;) Humbedooh
[08:48] <Humbedooh> :D
[08:48] <theadmin> Humbedooh: I understand your point of view and it is correct, however discussing software that can (even partially) break a user's system is not a good idea in this channel. I'm not really sure if it's allowed, llutz_ may know that better.
[08:49] <Humbedooh> I did add a second line saying "although I'm not supposed to say that" or something
[08:49] <Kimmen> almost all software that automagically generates a config for the user have the potential to break the system
[08:49]  * theadmin wasn't really watching, was bit busy playing with her Chrome stuff :D
[08:49] <theadmin> Kimmen: Well APT does that all the time :P
[08:50] <pnorman> Open source means if you break it you can keep the pieces :)
[08:50] <A_J|win> theadmin can you help me fix my flash, it's jerly / laggy and un-usable. ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[08:51] <Humbedooh> flash or gnash? :<
[08:51] <A_J|win> Flash
[08:51] <theadmin> A_J|win: Flash back in those ages was a huge problem. How about you update/switch distros to get more recent versions of it?... I can't really help with it, it's propertiary -- no patches etc
[08:52] <A_J|win> theadmin i don't like 11.10 Unity. thats why I am on 10.
[08:52] <A_J|win> 04*
[08:52] <A_J|win> liked the old Genome Desktop
[08:52] <theadmin> A_J|win: How about XFCE :D
[08:52] <theadmin> lol "Genome"
[08:52] <A_J|win> <3
[08:53] <A_J|win> XFCE, hmm
[08:53] <A_J|win> !XFCE
[08:53] <A_J|win> i should be able to select in from my login screen theadmin
[08:53] <Humbedooh> !Lubuntu
[08:53] <orastes> A_JIwin do you use x86_64 system?
[08:54] <A_J|win> x86
[08:54] <theadmin> A_J|win: Yeah, as soon as you install either "xfce4" or "xubuntu-desktop". But I suggest you just get Xubuntu 11.10 and install it
[08:54] <nickyyy> x89
[08:54]  * tnk1 is away: Gone away for now
[08:54] <theadmin> Humbedooh: XFCE is compatible with gnome2, whereas LXDE is not.
[08:54] <Humbedooh> AJ, you mean i686?
[08:54] <theadmin> !away | tnk1
[08:54] <Humbedooh> theadmin, I was just getting that link for myself :)
[08:54] <A_J|win> theadmin except the GUI is there any diffrence ?
[08:55] <theadmin> A_J|win: Can you PM me? The channel is noisy, I lose track of conversations >.<
[08:55] <A_J|win> okie theadmin
[08:57] <stepnjump2> Does anyone know of a complete app to design websites and free for Ubuntu?
[08:58] <llutz_> vim :D
[08:58] <stepnjump2> llutz...a complete app lol
[08:58] <llutz_> stepnjump2: vim IS complete
[08:59] <stepnjump2> I don't have time to reinvent the wheel
[08:59] <stepnjump2> vim????
[08:59] <A_J|win> !vim
[08:59] <llutz_> stepnjump2: there were quanta/bluefish and maybe some other tools
[08:59] <A_J|win> lol llutz_
[08:59] <stepnjump2> I am more looking for an app that I could use as a GUI, wysiwyg type of app llutz
[09:00] <stepnjump2> ok thanks llutz
[09:01] <theadmin> llutz_: Nice one
[09:01] <theadmin> stepnjump2: Try Kompozer or Bluefish
[09:01] <heinz_> !code
[09:02] <stepnjump2> thanks theadmin...  Any idea where I could study how to program websites online for free or for cheap theadmin or llutz_ ?
[09:03] <Humbedooh> stepnjump, google "php for dummies" or "asp for dummies" or whichever language you like
[09:04] <Rods_Tiger> or better still: http://rubyonrails.org/
[09:04] <llutz_> stepnjump2: i only know selfhtml.org   but i'm not dealing with html/php myself
[09:04] <theadmin> Perl > PHP imo
[09:05] <Humbedooh> that's debatable, Rods_Tiger :p
[09:05] <Rods_Tiger> perl isn't a good place to start though
[09:05] <stepnjump2> Humbedooh, that's a good idea... I know they will be dropping the flash at one point... so I have to find a good language.. php is good but complex. I think it will be there to stay. Is there a channel here on ubuntu about web programming I could join?
[09:05] <Humbedooh> perl indeed, but not a lot of perl hosting sites these days sadly
[09:05] <stepnjump2> thanks for the link llutz_
[09:06] <Humbedooh> try #php, #perl, #python etc?
[09:06] <stepnjump2> theadmin, what is Perl > PHP imo?
[09:06] <Rods_Tiger> for someone with no prior experience, I'd take them through ruby on rails first, and perhaps php via a framework as a second choice
[09:06] <Humbedooh> or #lua if you're feeling odd
[09:06] <student> need polish canal
[09:06] <theadmin> stepnjump2: Means "I think Perl is better than PHP"
[09:06] <llutz_> !pl
[09:06] <Rods_Tiger> lua for web apps?
[09:06] <wadkar> how to make sudo run a particular script without password and a tty ?
[09:07] <Humbedooh> you don't? :>
[09:07] <stepnjump2> theadmin do some people still use perl today?
[09:07] <wadkar> Humbedooh: yeah, I know, I shouldn't , but I want to know anyways ;)
[09:07] <heinz_> stepnjump2: sure
[09:08] <Humbedooh> Rods_Tiger, I use Lua the same way people use php :)
[09:08] <stepnjump2> mmm... ok I think it looks a bit like C from what I remember seing years ago
[09:08] <stepnjump2> theadmin, are you using weechat-curses?
[09:09] <theadmin> stepnjump2: It's the most popular CGI language actually... And no, I'm using KVIrc
[09:09] <slikts> theadmin: of course, because "there's more than way to do it" mantra is NOT a way to design an error- and confusion-prone language
[09:09] <stepnjump2> theadmin: ok I saw the column there so I assumed lol
[09:09] <theadmin> slikts: I'm not a Perl fan myself, but I prefer it over PHP
[09:10] <wadkar> found it, set visudo to allow userName ALL = NOPASSWD /path/to/script , and invoke as sudo -n /path/to/script
[09:10] <slikts> theadmin: your preference doesn't mean that one is better
[09:10] <cristian_c> Hello, I do not know how to deal with a problem
[09:10] <ubuntuaddicted> who can tell me which motherboard with many SATA ports that can run 16GB of RAM and has 6 core CPU support for Ubuntu 64bit
[09:10] <theadmin> slikts: I said, "I think". Meaning "in my opinion". Meaning "for me". Meaning "this works better than that in my cases"
[09:11] <theadmin> ubuntuaddicted: Uh, anything will have support for Ubuntu, I'd ask in ##hardware
[09:11] <ubuntuaddicted> ok, thanks
[09:11] <ubuntuaddicted> theadmin usb 3.0?
[09:11] <slikts> theadmin: is that as opposed to the things you say but don't think?
[09:12] <theadmin> slikts: No, it's as opposed to think that aren't in my opinion
[09:12] <cristian_c> I do not know how to extract information about the audio server or manager used at this time by the system via the terminal or file
[09:12] <theadmin> ubuntuaddicted: Hm, idk if that works yet, not so sure
[09:12] <ubuntuaddicted> k, over at hardware. thanks
[09:12] <orastes> wadkar : you may competely disble sudo to ask pass (not recomended) "visudo" and if you press both alt and f2 you may type your command.
[09:13] <cristian_c> I tried using the ps command in combination with pulse or other servers, but nothing is returned
[09:13] <wadkar> orastes: thanks, I would rather specify NOPASSWD to specific script, I just need to figure out how to run `sudo /path/to/script` without a TTY
[09:13] <Rods_Tiger> Humbedooh: I must investigate lua for web apps, then. Thanks
[09:14] <ubuntuaddicted> theadmin, i just got made fun of for using ubuntu in the hardware channel. LOL
[09:14] <cristian_c> Is there one way to find this thing?
[09:14] <theadmin> ubuntuaddicted: Unsurprising. It's generally considered the "noob distro"
[09:20] <eqq> !hello
[09:20] <_NiC> that's a bit unfair, isn't it?
[09:20] <kika> hi
[09:21] <theadmin> _NiC: Maybe somewhat
[09:21] <_NiC> :)
[09:21] <_NiC> I use it because it usually just works. Which is exactly what I need for my workstation.
[09:24] <remoteCTRL> ok guys my linux has been hacked
[09:25] <remoteCTRL> how the hell is that even possible??
[09:25] <cristian_c> I tried also with status alsa-store
[09:25] <ServerSage> remoteCTRL: What makes you say that?
[09:25] <_NiC> remoteCTRL, do you know how they got in?
[09:25] <cristian_c> but the daemon is not started
[09:26] <_NiC> remoteCTRL, and what exactly do you mean by "hacked"?
[09:26] <stepnjump2> For databases, is mySQL still available for free in ubuntu?
[09:26] <_NiC> stepnjump2, yes
[09:26] <ofaurax_boulot> does someone knows a really working way of rebooting network ?
[09:26] <ofaurax_boulot> everytime I try, I finish by rebooting
[09:26] <cristian_c> I tried also with service pulseaudio status
[09:26] <cristian_c> but pulseaudio is not installed
[09:26] <_NiC> ofaurax_boulot, /etc/init.d/networking restart maybe?
[09:27] <remoteCTRL> ServerSage: _NiC: we are a university institute, the firewall operator of the university wrote me that there have been complaints that somebody from within our ip-range tries to bruteforce break passwords on ssh connections
[09:27] <_NiC> ofaurax_boulot, don't do it remotely though.. :-)
[09:27] <ServerSage> cristian_c: You probably want alsasound
[09:27] <_NiC> (unless inside screen)
[09:27] <ServerSage> remoteCTRL: That doesn't mean it was "hacked"
[09:27] <remoteCTRL> ServerSage: _NiC: i have meanwhile found the computer, it has a gazillion of auth denied entries in the logs, but i have absolutely no clue what part of the os has been compromised
[09:27] <ubuntuaddicted> theadmin, lol
[09:27] <ServerSage> remoteCTRL: You sure you don't have a student with an account being a bad person?
[09:28] <cristian_c> ServerSage, I do not know how to retrieve this information via the terminal
[09:28] <_NiC> remoteCTRL, attempts to bruteforce a login either way does not mean you've been hacked.
[09:28] <cristian_c> or via file
[09:28] <remoteCTRL> ServerSage: _NiC: and frankly spoken i have no idea how to find out
[09:28] <ServerSage> cristian_c: sudo service alsasound status
[09:28] <remoteCTRL> _NiC: ermm... this comuter is the originator not the target from what i understand...
[09:28] <cristian_c> ok
[09:28] <ServerSage> cristian_c: What are you trying to do?
[09:29] <cristian_c> ServerSage, alsasound: unrecognized service
[09:29] <ServerSage> remoteCTRL: Doesn't matter, as I said, you probably have a student that is doing the brute force attack.  Attacks originating from your machine doesn't 100% mean you have been hacked.
[09:29] <_NiC> remoteCTRL, check the logs then. who was logged in etc. check their history.
[09:29] <ServerSage> cristian_c: What are you trying to do?
[09:30] <_NiC> remoteCTRL, if you're lucky/they're stupid, they have left lots of evidence.
[09:30] <remoteCTRL> ServerSage: well there is a possibility that one of our students is doing this, but as they already know that i am onto this, and i am also sure that they dont want to get fired (we have only phd candidates), i am confident that this does not come from the inside...
[09:30] <ServerSage> remoteCTRL: Like _NiC said, if they are stupid you'll see evidence.  Check /tmp for fun named files.  Seems all the idiots make that mistake.  :)
[09:30] <cristian_c> ServerSage, I need to discover the current audio server so I can use the appropriate command to manipulate the audio channels of the mixer
[09:30] <_NiC> remoteCTRL, bad password on an account? Can be easily guessed. Check which IP's logins come from.
[09:31] <remoteCTRL> ServerSage: lol, like what?
[09:31] <driiper> Hello! I have a Web Server ( Apache2) on my ubuntu server using port 80. Now i also need a HTTP/SOCKS/HTTPS proxy server on the same port. (80), is there any way to have both services on the same port , or atleast so you can connect to both via port 80
[09:31] <ServerSage> cristian_c: If you don't have pulse audio or alsasound available, you don't have sound set up.
[09:31] <stepnjump2> thanks _NiC
[09:31] <_NiC> remoteCTRL, if 99% of logins is from a campus, and 1% is from china, brazil, uganda or other weird countries.. you've found it.
[09:31] <_NiC> (no offense to anyone living in a weird country ;-)
[09:32] <remoteCTRL> ServerSage: _NiC: i got one general prolem here: i have a newly implemented ldap database for user authentication and i have not implemented the password encvryption yet. so curretnly we are sending the pwds cleartext over the net. i have no clue who is really loggend in :(
[09:32] <cristian_c> ServerSage, in what sense 'I don not have sound set up'?
[09:32] <cristian_c> *do not
[09:32] <remoteCTRL> geeez what a mess
[09:32] <ServerSage> cristian_c: Does your sound work?
[09:32] <ServerSage> remoteCTRL: You should still have auth logs in /var/log
[09:33] <llutz_> remoteCTRL: and you seriously ask how a linux-system can get hacked?
[09:33] <cristian_c> ServerSage, yes
[09:33] <ServerSage> cristian_c: Then you should have either alsasound or pulse audio installed.  Which is installed when you look in the package manager?
[09:34] <ServerSage> remoteCTRL: Wow, really?  You seriously are passing your passwords clear text over a network and you wonder how it got hacked?
[09:34] <cristian_c> ServerSage, pulseaudio is not installed
[09:35] <cristian_c> ServerSage, I  check for alsasound
[09:36] <ServerSage> cristian_c: It's probably called alsa-tools, not alsasound in the package manager.  :)
[09:37] <greenit> hi, i have a problem... i bought a samsung ssd, installed it in the computer and now i am using it as my primary hd... i installed win7 (where i am right now) and then i tried to install ubuntu on it too... however, there was a problem i think. there were many different installoptions, for example upgrade the other ubuntu, reinstall ubuntu, delet everything and install ubuntu... i have chosen advanced, made a /, a /home and a swap-
[09:37] <greenit> partition and thought its ok... ubuntu recognized the ssd as sdb btw - but when i start it immediately starts win7, without grub. for info: i have 2 fully functional operating-systems on the other hard disk (ubuntu 11.10 and win7)... how do i get ubuntu working on my ssd?
[09:37] <cristian_c> ServerSage, the package is not installed
[09:37] <remoteCTRL> how could they possibly have foudn out that quickly? :D
[09:37] <ServerSage> cristian_c: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[09:37] <cristian_c> ServerSage, 11.10
[09:37] <ServerSage> remoteCTRL: I refuse to dignify that with an answer.
[09:38] <driiper> Hello! I have a Web Server ( Apache2) on my ubuntu server using port 80. Now i also need a HTTP/SOCKS/HTTPS proxy server on the same port. (80), is there any way to have both services on the same port , or atleast so you can connect to both via port 80
[09:38] <iceroot> driiper: no
[09:39] <driiper> damn :(
[09:39] <iceroot> driiper: use 8080 for the proxy
[09:39] <ServerSage> cristian_c: Have you looked at the online help docs?
[09:39] <driiper> the problem is that the only port open for connection is port 80
[09:39] <cristian_c> ServerSage, I'll check
[09:39] <ServerSage> cristian_c: http://tinyurl.com/7tlww6p
[09:39] <cristian_c> ServerSage, *I'll check for it
[09:40] <iceroot> driiper: i dont know a solution where you can have multiple programs on the same port
[09:40] <remoteCTRL> ServerSage: llutz go easy on be guys, we had a crash which was definitely not my fault but caused by a hardware failure, and that the backups weren't suitable wasnt either, i am only the guy who can clean up the mess... (we had to have an authentication quickly as noone could work otherwise...)
[09:40] <stepnjump2> Looks like perl executes faster than anything else out there!
[09:40] <stepnjump2> http://www.google.ca/imgres?q=perl+or+php+benchmark&hl=en&client=opera&sa=X&rls=en&channel=suggest&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=qtRtrQOrbdKoAM:&imgrefurl=http://onlyjob.blogspot.com/2011/03/perl5-python-ruby-php-c-c-lua-tcl.html&docid=8BDjyaqGLgGWXM&imgurl=http://sites.google.com/site/onlyjob/arena/speed_close.png&w=833&h=334&ei=a8sCT9_fHMyutwewkKzPBg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=140&vpy=122&dur=335&hovh=142&hovw=
[09:40] <stepnjump2> 355&tx=165&ty=103&sig=118435790611270740413&page=1&tbnh=57&tbnw=142&start=0&ndsp=13&ved=1t:429,r:8,s:0&biw=991&bih=377
[09:40] <stepnjump2> ooops sorry
[09:40] <stepnjump2> sorry didn't mean to flood... this URL is ridiculously long
[09:41] <greenit> stepnjump, use http://bit.ly
[09:41] <greenit> stepnjump, use http://bitly.com *
[09:41] <iceroot> stepnjump2: but what does that have to do with ubuntu?
[09:41] <ServerSage> remoteCTRL: Check your auth logs.  If the attacks are still happening, get a known good copy of the standard tools on to the system.  Things like top, ps, ls, etc..  Use those tools and the auth logs to figure out who is doing what.
[09:41] <stepnjump2> Here it is: http://sites.google.com/site/onlyjob/arena/speed_close.png
[09:42] <stepnjump2> iceroot, I was talking about scripting languages earlier with some guys
[09:42] <cristian_c> ServerSage, thanks, there are six guides. But I do not know which of these is suited to my problem
[09:42] <ServerSage> cristian_c: What is your problem?
[09:42] <iceroot> stepnjump2: ok, i guess #perl, #bash or ##scripting is a better place
[09:42] <greenit> can no1 help me?
[09:42] <ServerSage> cristian_c: I still don't know.  All you said was you wanted to use a mixer.
[09:42] <iceroot> !ask | greenit
[09:42] <driiper> Yeh your probably right iceroot. What i was thinking was a application to like, Lets say i use Apache on port 8000 and a proxy on port 8080. then a program to loop everything into port 80 :D like a reverse proxy if you want.
[09:42] <cristian_c> ServerSage, which server is using the system at this time
[09:43] <cristian_c> :)
[09:43] <driiper> But ill try to get hold of a new IP adress, and ill set up a second server for proxy
[09:43] <iceroot> driiper: no way to open the firewall?
[09:44] <ServerSage> cristian_c: Based on what you've said, neither.  Though I'll assume it's pulse.  If you run "ps aux |grep pulse" what do you get?
[09:44] <greenit> well... then i will shorten the question: i have a new hd and want to install ubuntu on it, but it doesn't recognize it (not even grub shows on boot)... plz help me getting ubuntu running
[09:44] <iceroot> greenit: does the bios detect the hdd?
[09:44] <stepnjump2> tnx iceroot
[09:45] <_NiC> greenit, did you install grub on /dev/sda or sdb?
[09:45] <greenit> iceroot, yes, i have installed win7 on it and it works...
[09:45] <remoteCTRL> ServerSage: mybe this: rtkit     1595  0.0  0.0  21792  2068 ?        SNl   2011   0:08 /usr/lib/rtkit/rtkit-daemon :D
[09:45] <greenit> _NiC, i have installed grub on sdb
[09:45] <ServerSage> remoteCTRL: Yup, there you go.
[09:45] <iceroot> greenit: and the ubuntu-installer is not detectiing the drive?
[09:45] <cristian_c> ServerSage, the command returns only the grep process
[09:45] <_NiC> greenit, if the bios doesn't read sdb during boot, it won't see grub.
[09:45] <driiper> iceroot: sadly not as i'm sitting on a university :(
[09:45] <greenit> iceroot, it is also detecting the drive, but as sdb
[09:45] <ServerSage> remoteCTRL: That is what we call a compromised system.  You're gonna need to start from a bare install and a restore from a known good backup.
[09:46] <ServerSage> cristian_c: I have NO idea how you have sound working then.
[09:46] <iceroot> greenit: that is not a problem
[09:46] <iceroot> greenit: tell the bios to boot from the second hdd instead of the first
[09:46] <greenit> _NiC, erm.... and why does it start win7 then immediately after boot? on sda there are 2 working operatingsystems (win7, ubuntu)
[09:46] <AziaBurgi> hello i've just got back from holiday to find our server had been turned off and now mysql won't start, any ideas?
[09:46] <cristian_c> ServerSage, ok, thank you anyway for the support :)
[09:46] <iceroot> ServerSage: http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/lucid/rtkit
[09:46] <_NiC> greenit, because it reads the windows bootloader
[09:47] <_NiC> AziaBurgi, yes, check the mysql errorlog.
[09:47] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: no worry about rtkit its nothing bad
[09:47] <AziaBurgi> _NiC: where would i find that?
[09:47] <greenit> iceroot, _NiC ok, i will try your tips, thx for help :)
[09:47] <iceroot> AziaBurgi: sudo service mysql start
[09:47] <ServerSage> iceroot: Ha..ha…ha.  Oops.  Support while installing.  Somebody gets the short end of the stick every time.  :)
[09:47] <ServerSage> remoteCTRL: Never mind, I'm probably retarded tonight.
[09:47] <_NiC> AziaBurgi, usually in /var/log/mysql or the datadirectory of mysql
[09:48] <_NiC> AziaBurgi, which is possibly /var/lib/mysql
[09:48] <AziaBurgi> monkeyfish@beast:~$ sudo service mysql start
[09:48] <AziaBurgi> [sudo] password for monkeyfish:
[09:48] <AziaBurgi> start: Job is already running: mysql
[09:48] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: i beg your pardon??
[09:49] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/lucid/rtkit
[09:49] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: if i am correct ServerSage told you that your system is compromised because there is something running called rtkit
[09:50] <kika> hhi
[09:50] <remoteCTRL> well i thought so too...
[09:50] <kika> i have ubuntu 32 can i upgrade it to ubuntu 64?
[09:50] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: but its not
[09:50] <iceroot> kika: no
[09:50] <iceroot> kika: only with a reinstall
[09:50] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: phhhewww.... eraltime kit not root kit...
[09:51] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: correct
[09:51] <kika> pfff ok worths the reinstall in pocessor performance?
[09:51] <_NiC> remoteCTRL, do you have a backup of this server?
[09:51] <iceroot> kika: there will be no performance-difference you will notice
[09:51] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: phew i already thought all of the computers were compromised, as this runs on wach and every one...
[09:51] <_NiC> kika, I don't think there's a real need unless you have memory you can't address.
[09:52] <iceroot> kika: amd64 is usefull when you have 4GB of memory or more
[09:52] <kika> i have a slow grafic card and im looking to get some extra performence
[09:52] <ServerSage> remoteCTRL: Even if you figure this out, and it turns out to be somebody that sniffed a password, they have that password.  You are going t have to force users to change their passwords at some point.
[09:52] <iceroot> kika: that has nothing to do with amd64
[09:52] <_NiC> kika, then get a new gfx-card :)
[09:52] <kika> its a laptop
[09:52] <remoteCTRL> _NiC: we had several powerlosses in our building due to a broken waterpipe, so no, the machine with the database was slightly damaged and then being backuped with the damaged system.
[09:52] <_NiC> new laptop, then? :-)
[09:52] <iceroot> kika: what card? maybe you are using the free drivers which dont have 3d support
[09:53] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: unfortunately i had no clean backup anymore...
[09:53] <remoteCTRL> so i reinstalled
[09:53] <kika> i think is a intel integrated with memory shared
[09:53] <iceroot> kika: ok then you are running the best driver already
[09:53] <lillo1234> hi
[09:53] <kika> but in windows runs faster
[09:53] <kika> ...
[09:53] <iceroot> kika: what is your definition of "slow"? games? videos? desktop?
[09:53] <kika> in game
[09:53] <_NiC> remoteCTRL, if you had a backup of your binaries, you could md5sum a known-good binary on the backup and compared to your system (while booting from a CD or something) to check if your binaries have been tampered with.
[09:54] <kika> when im in menu all graphics are perfect, but when in game all gets slow
[09:54] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: ServerSage: installing rkhunter and chkrootkit...
[09:54] <iceroot> kika: what game? using wine? or a native game?
[09:54] <kika> native game HON
[09:54] <_NiC> remoteCTRL, or you could of course get the md5sum on a similar server with the same software, that you know is safe.
[09:54] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: no need for that
[09:54] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: the one computer is still being origin for ssh attakcs...
[09:55] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: ssh attacks are normal
[09:55] <kika> any way to improve hthe grafics somehow?
[09:55] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: there are thousands a day on linux-systems
[09:55] <iceroot> kika: i dont think so
[09:55] <remoteCTRL> _NiC: i do get the point, unfortunately i dont have any of them anymore... when i saw the backup was no use i deleted them in a tantrum :D
[09:55] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: that are just bruteforces on port 22
[09:55] <lillo1234> !list
[09:55] <kika> cuz i noticed that if i lower the graphics in options get uglier but same slow speed
[09:55] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: but this computer is not the TARGET but the ORIGINATOR!
[09:55] <lillo1234> exit
[09:56] <kika> cuz i noticed that if i lower the graphics in options get uglier but same slow speed
[09:56] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: ah ok
[09:56] <AziaBurgi> _NiC: it looks like my binded ip address has changed, i'll have a look at that, thanks for the pointer
[09:56] <_NiC> remoteCTRL, is it happening *now*?
[09:56] <_NiC> AziaBurgi, sure thing.
[09:57] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: _NiC: ServerSage: so currently checking, gonna take a while i will report back then...
[09:57] <_NiC> remoteCTRL, if the server has always been up-to-date with security-updates, it's probably not rooted, if not, I'd check the binaries.
[09:57] <lyn> 有人吗？
[09:57] <kika> lin game i have option to select LVDS1 can this be conigured
[09:57] <vouth> Hi, every time I boot, X segfaults :-( I have an ATI Radeon graphics card. Help!!
[09:57] <vouth> !cn | lyn
[09:58] <_NiC> remoteCTRL, processes meant for bad things are usually pretending to be something else when you look at the ps-listing.
[10:00] <Vlad___> Hi. Anybody can help me? Tell me please, where create the partition "biosgrub", during the installation of 11.10? Two partitions on each hard disk or to combine these two partition and on the software raid? (FAKE RAID 1, gpt)
[10:00] <glace> ..
[10:00] <remoteCTRL> geez i wasnt aware that there are that many root kits...
[10:01] <lyn> msg dsak
[10:02] <ServerSage> remoteCTRL: root kits are like women's purses, one for every occasion.
[10:02] <lyn> Away dsak
[10:02] <almoxarife> vouth: looked at the logs to see what there is to see?
[10:02] <ServerSage> lyn: You might want to try a / there.  :)
[10:02] <metaspike> Vlad_. im not sure. what I do know is that if you write grub to the mbr of the boot disk, and have a valid parition for /boot to reside, whether in its own parition or not, it should work.
[10:03] <remoteCTRL> _NiC: found basically nothing but gave two warnings, one for /usr/bin/mail and one for /usr/bin/bsd-mailx
[10:04] <ServerSage> remoteCTRL: Are the outbound attacks still happening?  As in, are they happening right now?
[10:04] <_NiC> remoteCTRL, what gave warnings?
[10:05] <opalepatrick>  Is it an absolute certainty that if all my files on a dvd are filled with zeros using ghex, that the brasero dvd burn completely failed and is irrecoverable? The folder structure is fine.
[10:05] <remoteCTRL> _NiC: ServerSage: iceroot: it is not the ldap database that is compromised but an arbitrary computer in the net. i just supposed that this was due to the clear text pwds...
[10:05] <dyd> guys, why gparted live cd should not recognize my keyboard/mouse? i go trought the first menu, but when the "don't touch keymap" menu appears it's stuck :|
[10:06] <ServerSage> dyd: Probably want to ask in the gparted irc channel...
[10:06] <metaspike> opalepatrick, trying to recover a cd?
[10:07] <opalepatrick> metaspike, yeah a dvd backup (actually two)
[10:07] <vouth> almoxarife: I archived them when I got to the fallback x mode. The fallback mode was barely functional (I couldn't get it to log in or restart x or anything). It looks like something to do  with libc.so.6 but it would be nice to know what that was :-)
[10:07] <vouth> almoxarife: I'll pastebin it…
[10:07] <almoxarife> vouth: cool
[10:08] <vouth> almoxarife: http://pastebin.com/5c6X00JX
[10:08] <almoxarife> dyd: there is a 'don't touch keymap' where in the install of a ubuntu version?
[10:09] <kika> hi, can i set virtual memory in ubuntu like windows?
[10:09] <metaspike> opalepatrick, there was this program on windoze that was really good (yes it does happen now and then.) it was called cdroller (and yes, it was a commercial product). anyway, it could read cd's on a sector by sector basis and extract files from paritially damaged cds, im sure there's a linux equivilant that can do the same and proberly better.
[10:09] <vouth> almoxarife: uh, *not* cool. :-S I can't boot to my regular system and am stuck using this problematic, buggy, slow testing one!! :-P
[10:09] <Vlad___> metaspike: mbr? I did't make a separate partition for /boot. I can't install grub to "/boot" or "/". Its needed for separate partition ~ 1mb. But i don't know where. One on raid or two on HDD used for raid.
[10:09] <kika> hi, can i set virtual memory in ubuntu like windows?
[10:09] <vouth> almoxarife: The problem appeared right after doing some updates.
[10:09] <dyd> almaxarife: gparted live cd, not ubuntu installation
[10:10] <vouth> kika, do you mean swap space?
[10:10] <remoteCTRL> what was the name of the pastebin channel?
[10:10] <almoxarife> dyd: no, android?
[10:10] <kika> maybe... is that like virtual memory?
[10:10] <CaptainQuirk> Hi
[10:11] <vouth> kika: From wikipedia it looks like the same thing
[10:11] <polygone> 22
[10:11] <CaptainQuirk> what is the best place to store information for a VPN connection over openvpn ?
[10:11] <remoteCTRL> ServerSage: _NiC: iceroot: rofl@purses, yes the attacks are still occurring, nope, not at the ,moment, but i found so,mething very strange
[10:11] <CaptainQuirk> certs, keys etc ...
[10:11] <polygone> 023023hyuyhjhhggf^$
[10:11] <ikonia> polygone: please stop that
[10:11] <Vlad___> metaspike:  GRUB need a separate partition when Guid Partition Table(GPT) used.
[10:11] <ikonia> ahhh, there we go
[10:11] <kika> how do i know how much swap i have?
[10:12] <vouth> kika: Yes, it can be configured. Swap space in Linux is usually stored in a dedicated partition. So basically it's just a matter of resizing that partition. (GParted makes that quite a manageable task).
[10:12] <opalepatrick> metaspike, yes I have used a few, but the problem may be that brasero didnt burn properly... utter, utter pain. The DVD's are OK I believe - checked them anyway
[10:12] <metaspike> opalepatrick,  there's two programs you want to checkout... recoverdm and dares
[10:13] <vouth> kika: try running top to monitor swap space
[10:13] <ikonia> swapon -s
[10:13] <metaspike> and packagesearch, it's a great way to find packages :)
[10:13] <vouth> kika, it should be in the 5th line
[10:13] <Vlad___> kika: how many ram do u have?
[10:13] <shahan> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1902910
[10:13] <shahan> Plz help me regarding this topic http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1902910
[10:13] <Wonder> whenever I type in ifconfig eth0 up, it always gives me this msg : eth0: ERROR: while getting interface flags: No such device" ...... dang I hate this stupid laptop
[10:13] <Wonder> Somebody plz help?
[10:14] <shahan> Guest97349: what kind of help do u need?
[10:14] <Guest97349> It can't connect to the wired or wireless, and also I looked into the ubuntu forum already, and been reading the posts for the whole arvo, doesn't seem working
[10:14] <metaspike> Vlad, I would have reside it outside of the logical / raid system if possible and mark it as bootable as a precaution, however im only musing.
[10:14] <almoxarife> vouth: try installing 'fglrx' if not already installed
[10:14] <Guest97349> shahan, umm, well, I can't say, all I want is make it connect to the internet
[10:15] <vouth> almoxarife: wut? Um, I can I guess but it worked fine with the plain old radeon driver, until I did those (*%#@${ updates.
[10:15] <kika> not sure how much ram... im trying to improve performance of this while in hon not sure bigger swap will make the diference
[10:15] <shahan> Guest97349: oh... sorry I cannt help you regarding this issue. Hope somebody expert in networking ...
[10:15] <metaspike> Wonder. does it show up if you do:   ifconfig -a  ?
[10:15] <opalepatrick> aaah OK, thanks metaspike. I will check those
[10:15] <vouth> almoxarife: That'll teach me not to mix repos. Again. :-S
[10:16] <Vlad___> metaspike: :(( "mark in as bootable" = partition on each hdd.
[10:16] <almoxarife> vouth: no idea, but its something to try, you can afford to right now
[10:16] <shahan> Plz help me regarding this topic http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1902910
[10:16] <remoteCTRL>  
[10:17] <vouth> almoxarife: Ok. I'll have to reboot to do that (it's in the same machine), so I guess I'll be back in a few if things don't go well :-P Thanks :-)
[10:17] <kika> linux swap is 7.7 gb is that good enouf?
[10:17] <_NiC> kika, swapping will *not* increase your performance, that's for sure..
[10:17] <metaspike> I honestly don't know Vlad___, ubottu suggests https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto besides that I cant help sorry
[10:18] <oYeVoVeYo> metaspike, when I do ifconfig -a, it comes up with "lo.......(followed by bunch of stuff)" and     "wlan0........... (follored by bunch of stuff)"
[10:18] <almoxarife> vouth: also install fglrx-updates
[10:18] <kika> any way i get more cpu free?
[10:18] <vouth> kika: that's a lot. I have mine at 2g. No idea why you'd need 7g swap.
[10:18] <tristan1> AFTER UPGRADING to 11.10 some of the icons such as sound and power do not work anymore... what can i do to fix them... the power icon in task manager on the top right will not respond except to show power level... and i used to have the option of controlling banshee or rhythmbox from task manager but now i cant get it to show up... whats changed...
[10:18] <vouth> almoxarife: ok, thanks.
[10:18] <almoxarife> vouth: also install fglrx-update/s , can't remember
[10:19] <_NiC> kika, to get more cpu-time, you need to stop some processes you don't need.
[10:19] <vouth> almoxarife: ah, well, aptitude will probably sort it out  for me :-)
[10:19] <vouth> almoxarife: Be right back then.
[10:19] <lasher_> can some one point me to where to find how to register freenode
[10:19] <_NiC> kika, and/or use more lightweight versions of software.. for example the window manager
[10:19] <metaspike> oYeVoVeYo- lspci | grep Ethernet | pastebinit   - send us the link if it has anything.
[10:19] <oYeVoVeYo> Even when I flug in the cable, it still doesn't work
[10:20] <oYeVoVeYo> kay, wait a sec
[10:20] <_NiC> kika, disable fancy effects, etc
[10:20] <tristan1> biggest concern is trying to find out why i cant add the media control back into the sound task manager icon.. im sure its something simple im overlooking..
[10:20] <metaspike> lasher_,  /msg Nickserv identify (mypassword) - think you have to register or some such, google it :P
[10:21] <oYeVoVeYo> metaspike, it says the program 'pastebinit' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[10:21] <lasher_> ty
[10:21] <kika> where can i disa
[10:21] <kika> disable that in ubuntu 11.10
[10:21] <metaspike> oYeVoVeYo, bash speaks of wisdom then
[10:22] <almoxarife> tristan1: look for all the 'extensions' associated with the stuff you are missing, seems 'extensions' is the 'new' thing that makes things happen
[10:22] <oYeVoVeYo> so I should do the sudo apt-get install pastebinit? @ metaspike
[10:22] <metaspike> yes
[10:22] <tristan1> almoxarife: thank you.. where do i check to see where and what extensions are installed for my sound manager and power applet..
[10:23] <zork> oYeVoVeYo, be sure to put a pipe | in front of pastebinit.
[10:23] <almoxarife> tristan1: how did you do it in the past?
[10:23] <metaspike> kika, you can tweak compiz with ccsm, in terminal run - sudo rcconf - for nitty gritty services configuration or just remove/replace gnome altogether.
[10:23] <oYeVoVeYo> metaspike, it says E: Couldn't find package pastebinit ... FYI, I can't connect to the internet, wired or wireless
[10:23] <oYeVoVeYo> zork, O.o" I didn't quite get you
[10:24] <metaspike> actually, the program called bum might be more appropriate than rcconf for you gui easness
[10:25] <zork> oYeVoVeYo, my bad.  I thought you were *using* pastebinit, not installing it.
[10:25] <tristan1> it just worked before i upgraded to 11.10.. now its basically a super basic applet.. and rhythmbox for example has an option to include play and skip ect. but if i check yes it doesnt do anything to my sound applet. dont know why the applet doesnt respond to that setting now..
[10:25] <kika> kika@kika-Presario-CQ56-Notebook-PC:~$ sudo reconf
[10:25] <kika> sudo: reconf: command not found
[10:25] <kika> kika@kika-Presario-CQ56-Notebook-PC:~$ sudo rcconf
[10:25] <kika> [sudo] password for kika:
[10:25] <kika> sudo: rcconf: command not found
[10:25] <metaspike> oYeVoVeYo, ha.. of course.  did it ever work? can you at least get wlan to work?
[10:26] <metaspike> apparently I have connection issues of my own o_o
[10:26] <tristan1> kika: use http://pastebin.com/
[10:26] <oYeVoVeYo> Well, days ago, it worked... for a little while, but then it just stopped @ metaspike
[10:27] <oYeVoVeYo> And nope, I can't get either eth0 or wlan0 to work, >.<
[10:27] <metaspike> you did nothing at all?! not even upgrade
[10:28] <tristan1> how do i get extensions for my basic applets... and where do i check to see what extensions are already installed...
[10:28] <oYeVoVeYo> Umm nope, I'm using 10.04 LTS, I thought it works fine... except that it couldn't conenct to the internet
[10:28] <Calinou> hi, I installed the "gnome" packet and switched to gdm as login manager, I rebooted and it went fine. I set auto-login to on and now I can't reboot
[10:29] <Calinou> I'm on ubuntu 11.10. Tried recovery mode, nothing could help
[10:30] <metaspike> Calinou, there's a few ways you could fix this, one would be to edit the /etc/init.d/gdm script from a live cd
[10:30] <Calinou> booting works, but when it finishes (when the desktop is supposed to show) it just turns black and shows a console with a bunch of messages
[10:30] <Calinou> ok metaspike - edit what, and where?
[10:31] <tristan1> calinou: tried the command startx
[10:31] <Calinou> can't type any command :/
[10:32] <tristan1> calinou: even if you try ctrl+c
[10:32] <Calinou> when should I press those keys? in grub?
[10:32] <tristan1> when it freezes at the end
[10:32] <Calinou> k
[10:33] <metaspike> yeah, that and ctrl+alt+f1 to f8
[10:33] <metaspike> ctrl+alt+backspace. i forget how that one works
[10:33] <ranjan> how to add a banner in Ubuntu GDM in 10.04
[10:33] <tristan1> metaspike: startx will only work on tty 7 i think.
[10:34] <opalepatrick> JUst picking your brains metaspike. Should the fileout with recoverdm be something like recover.img ?
[10:34] <sveinse> Hi. I'm getting reports from apt-get that a package have been kept back. How can I get apt-get to print why it has been kept back?
[10:34] <Calinou> ctrl+c doesn't seem to do anything
[10:34] <metaspike> opalepatrick, i don't know- ask me if you really get stuck :)
[10:34] <mkanyicy> sveinse, you need to do a 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[10:35] <opalepatrick> lol... thnaks metaspike
[10:35] <tristan1> How do i explore extensions for my power and sound applets...
[10:35] <mkanyicy> sveinse, sometimes some packages are kept back via a 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[10:35] <sveinse> mkanyicy: That is what I'm doing. And it probably an error in the package deps. But I need to know why and where the error is
[10:36] <mkanyicy> which command are you running, sveinse? upgrade or dist-upgrade?
[10:36] <sveinse> dist-upgrade
[10:36] <mkanyicy> Calinou, what are you trying to do
[10:36] <Calinou> ctrl+alt+f1 then startx works, shows me the cursor and the desktop but nothing else
[10:36] <Calinou> fix my system, proably by switching to lightdm
[10:37] <oYeVoVeYo> If I install the pastebinit can it make my wired connection work?
[10:37] <Calinou> the desktop now shows, and icons/etc
[10:37] <metaspike> Calinou, from that terminal.  sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm  - or sudo aptitude --reinstall purge gdm
[10:37] <metaspike> or some such.
[10:37] <mkanyicy> sveinse, im clueless then, good luck, thou
[10:38] <metaspike> maybe that was --reinstall install gdm :) cant remember :D
[10:38] <tristan1> can you get a run dialog to pop up with a certain key combo.. who knows what that combo is?
[10:38] <greenit> hi, i just installed ubuntu 11.10 on a ssd... now i want to know several things.... do i need to install anything for ssd-support for ubuntu, or does it recognize that i have a ssd and i don't need to do anything? the graphics are pretty laggy.. when i move a window it "jumps" around, although i have installed the graphics driver (nvidia gtx 570, proprietary driver installed)... how can i get rid of this?
[10:41] <wade>  
[10:41] <tristan1> almoxarife: any idea where to look for these extensions
[10:42] <almoxarife> tristan1: how did you do it in the past?
[10:42] <metaspikes> my connection drops out on regular basis. no rhyme no reason. anyone know how to troubleshoot such a crazy thing
[10:42] <tristan1> i didnt have to in the past.. i was using 10.04 before and it just worked then..
[10:43] <Calinou> works!!
[10:43] <almoxarife> tristan1: how did you add or delete packages?
[10:43] <Calinou> thanks alot metaspike and tristan1
[10:43] <tristan1> calinou: great
[10:44] <metaspikes> tristan1: is there a common element in these package names?
[10:44] <tristan1> almoxarife: i can still add and remove packages.. but im not sure what that has to do with my applets..
[10:44] <greenit> my graphics-card driver does not work properly (i think). i installed the proprietary driver for nvidia, but, for example, when i move a window it is not smooth and fluently :(   can any1 help me plz?
[10:45] <remoteCTRL> ServerSage: _NiC: iceroot: what do you think of this: http://pastebin.com/XqCdujZX
[10:45] <tristan1> metaspikes: im not looking at any packages that im aware of.. ill explore and see what i can come up with...
[10:45] <remoteCTRL> _NiC: ServerSage: iceroot: as you can see i got a japanese guy logged in executing an instance of apache. which isnt even installed. so a cmouflaged malware.
[10:46] <remoteCTRL> when i find this in ps aux, how do i find out hwat is really being executed?
[10:46] <stepnjump2> Rsync question.. if I just completed a full backup on an external HDD and just added a few files to my ubuntu workstation, will it just update differentially and exit or will it go through all files one by one?
[10:46] <tristan1> im using the basic ubuntu software center.. so im not sure what i should be looking for unless i replace the entire gnome-panel with compiz or awn or something else i dont want..
[10:48] <tristan1> further exploring shows that 11.10 has a different applet than 10.04 with the same name... how do i find the old applet.
[10:50] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: i guess someone is using an unsecure php-thing or something like that
[10:50] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: first you should kill that process
[10:51] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: this is absofreakinglutely amazing. we do have a firewall you know. atm i really have no clue how this japanese guy gets throught he firewall. so it HAS to be a trojan, right?
[10:51] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: i did, noone logged in currently
[10:51] <tristan1> are gnome applets and gnome2 applets cross compatable
[10:52] <Krawlezt> Debia nerladdat, dock inte installerat :)
[10:52] <metaspikes> remoteCTRL: or a masqeurade of some sort
[10:52] <iceroot> tristan1: you are talking about gnome2 and gnome3?
[10:52] <metaspikes> tristan1: not that im aware of
[10:53] <remoteCTRL> metaspikes: there is absolutely NOTHING let through the firewall into the red zone. only outgoing traffic, no ssh ingoing, nothing.
[10:53] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: have a look at /var/log/apache2/access.log and maybe /var/log/apache2/error.log maybe there is a hint how he get access to the system
[10:53] <tristan1> iceroot: yes.. are the applets for the sound and power adjustable.. i dont like the new ones.. i want my old applets from 10.04 back..
[10:53] <marios_> hello. does anyone know when kernel 3.1 will be available on the repos?
[10:53] <iceroot> tristan1: i dont thing so but maybe someone else nknows better
[10:53] <iceroot> marios_: never
[10:53] <marios_> why?
[10:53] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: apache is NOT installed, just the malware camouflaged as apache
[10:53] <iceroot> marios_: there are only security-updates for an ubutnu-release
[10:54] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: ah ok
[10:54] <iceroot> marios_: within an ubuntu release you will never get major-updates (firefox and thunderbird are not affected by that rule)
[10:54] <iceroot> marios_: is there a reason you need 3.1?
[10:54] <marios_> because there's an energy consumption problem since kernel v.3.0
[10:54] <iceroot> marios_: since 2.6.38
[10:54] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: that is why i asked whether there is a possibility, if ps aux shows this line "visitor  pts/0    aa20061002063d78 Mon20   14:50m 14:48m 14:18m /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL" to find out what is REALLY running
[10:54] <iceroot> marios_: which is not fixed in 3.1
[10:54] <Calinou> ok it works, but my notifications have been altered in some really bad way
[10:55] <Calinou> they're very big
[10:55] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: the apache logs
[10:55] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: ps aux will not tell you what apache is doing
[10:55] <marios_> my battery is drained very quickly
[10:55] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: even if it isnt installed?? :D
[10:55] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: its "installed"
[10:56] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: but not with dpkg
[10:56] <sumit> hi happy new year folks
[10:56] <marios_> :) happy new year!
[10:56] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: /var/log/syslog gives me tons of these: Jan  3 09:23:39 kanabo kernel: [1298882.144166] ssh[15270]: segfault at 0 ip 08048e33 sp bfe33300 error 4 in ssh[8048000+c0000]
[10:56] <vouth> almoxarife: sorry to break the news to you but I'm back again. I can't even figure out how to connect to the Internet to download the package updates from the root shell prompt recovery console thingy. :-(
[10:57] <sumit> I installed ubuntu 11.10 with dual boot with windows and uncertainity the grub  is dissappeared how to resolve this problem
[10:57] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: what ubuntu-version?
[10:57] <iceroot> !grub | sumit
[10:57] <iceroot> sumit: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[10:57] <vouth> almoxarife: I couldn't find any package fglrx-updates.
[10:57] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: frankly spoken linux-mint, the latest, so ubuntu 11.10 basically...
[10:57] <iceroot> !mint | remoteCTRL
[10:58] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: we dont know what they are doing on there system so we can not and will not support mint here, sorry
[10:58] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: give an admin a break dude, its the same system, and the only computer running mint, all others are ubuntu...
[10:58] <tristan1> iceroot: any idea where to look to see what version of the applet im using.. i should be able to type apt-get install gnome-power-applet or something along those lines..
[10:58] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: i do understand that! :)
[10:58] <almoxarife> vouth: if you type 'login' at the prompt you are one, what do you get?
[10:59] <vouth> almoxarife: "login: Cannot possibly work without effective root"
[10:59] <iceroot> tristan1: apt-cache policy gnome-power-manager
[10:59] <vouth> almoxarife: That's not the one that's having trouble though.
[10:59] <almoxarife> vouth: I assume you are hardwired to the internet?
[10:59] <tristan1> vouth: sudo login
[10:59] <fishyfantasy> Hello, I have a black Macbook 2,1. Can I install Ubuntu version 11.10? Is this the right section to ask....?
[11:00] <iceroot> !mac | fishyfantasy
[11:00] <vouth> almoxarife: This is my known-somewhat-good boot on a separate disk :-P Yes, I am. "autumnfairy-P4X400-8235 login: "
[11:00] <iceroot> fishyfantasy: have a look there about the support
[11:00] <fishyfantasy> Great, thanks!
[11:00] <almoxarife> vouth: the machine with the issues connected to the internet?
[11:01] <vouth> almoxarife: yup, in the other install.
[11:01] <vouth> almoxarife: Just so you know they're both maverick
[11:01] <tristan1> iceroot: thank you
[11:01] <almoxarife> vouth: the machine with the issues, you are at a root terminal?
[11:02] <asimoo> hi
[11:02] <metaspikes> remoteCTRL: i dunno, have a look with wireshark or something. i wouldnt recommend running anything after 10.04 on a production machine either as there are more bugs and more secuirty issues
[11:02] <vouth> almoxarife: yup. They're the same machine, just different disks
[11:03] <tristan1> iceroot: any idea of how to roll back to an older version..
[11:03] <almoxarife> vouth: login to your user account from where you are
[11:03] <vouth> almoxarife: I choose what OS to boot using a Super GRUB disk because I haven't figured out yet how to make normal GRUB work :-S
[11:03] <iceroot> tristan1: only by hand with dpkg but that is normally not a good idea
[11:03] <iceroot> tristan1: because of dependencys
[11:03] <vouth> almoxarife: Uhm, no idea how. Sorry :~(
[11:03] <iceroot> tristan1: or do you mean an older ubuntu-version?
[11:03] <fishyfantasy> I have a Macbook 2,1 and can support up to Maverick only. Does that mean I cannot install Ubuntu 11.10 at all?
[11:03] <almoxarife> vouth: type login
[11:04] <remoteCTRL> metaspikes: the upgrades are a pain in the a** but other than that we do love our ubuntu.
[11:04] <tristan1> iceroot: i was referring to just the applet.. think its not worth the trouble??
[11:04] <iceroot> fishyfantasy: that does only mean (imo) newer versions are not tested
[11:04] <vouth> almoxarife: Oh, like I did to get the login prompt earlier?
[11:04] <iceroot> tristan1: i think so too
[11:04] <almoxarife> vouth: type login
[11:05] <vouth> almoxarife: I ran sudo login; got back "autumnfairy-P4X400-8235 login:"
[11:05] <almoxarife> vouth: did I ask you to sudo?
[11:05] <tristan1> banshee-extension-soundmenu was what i was looking for it turns out... fixed it i think.. its in progress...
[11:05] <vouth> almoxarife: Earlier yes
[11:06] <metaspikes> remoteCTRL: if you really want to secure a system, i recommend running bastilla and /or checksecurity also, as a easy way to righten security
[11:06] <almoxarife> vouth: presently?
[11:06] <vouth> almoxarife: Or excuse me, that was tristan1, sorry :-P
[11:06] <metaspikes> remoteCTRL: sorry. bastille
[11:06] <almoxarife> vouth: one more time, you at root?
[11:06] <remoteCTRL> metaspikes: interesting! are those like virus scans?
[11:07] <remoteCTRL> metaspikes: or more like ACL enforcement?
[11:07] <fishyfantasy> iceroot: I see. I do get problems like sound and overheating in 11.10. I'm not sure if I can just stick to Maverick... can I install software like GIMP in the lastet version or I can get that only in 11.10?
[11:07] <vouth> almoxarife: nope; I assumed it. (Sorry, stupid.) No, I'm not. I'm logged in to the graphical OS on the other hard drive. If I want to log in to the root recovery prompt for the other system, I have to leave IRC and reboot the computer into the other drive
[11:07] <iceroot> fishyfantasy: you can install gimp for every ubuntu release
[11:07] <metaspikes> remoteCTRL: no, clamav is the only antivirus really in the repo, those are security hardening programs that check permissions and other things that the default distrobutions where to pansy to impliment, or that become faulty as things get changed.
[11:07] <iceroot> fishyfantasy: at packages.ubuntu.com you can search for software and see in what releases the software is
[11:08] <iceroot> fishyfantasy: normally (and the common software always) is available for all ubuntu-releases
[11:08] <almoxarife> vouth: sounds complicated
[11:08] <vouth> almoxarife: That is, no, you did not presently ask me to use sudo, and no, I am not at a root prompt. Running login currently (without sudo) produces: "login: Cannot possibly work without effective root"
[11:08] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: the best for security is "not using ubuntu if not lts, not using forks of ubuntu, always installing security updates, always having doo passwords"
[11:09] <vouth> almoxarife: Basically I have two OSes dual-booting. One works, one doesn't. I'm chatting with you using the one that works. The one that doesn't is what we're chatting about.
[11:09] <fishyfantasy> iceroot: Thanks! I will think about whether to use 11.10 or 10.10.
[11:09] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: then you dont need any strange antivir, antirootkit or something like that
[11:09] <metaspikes> fishyfantasy: i suggest you run powertop, bum, and ccsm - to ligthen the load and conserve power
[11:09] <iceroot> fishyfantasy: the support for 10.10 will end on 04.2012
[11:09] <iceroot> fishyfantasy: so you dont get updates after that
[11:09] <almoxarife> vouth: got it, so how can you be seeing errors? and pasting them?
[11:10] <fishyfantasy> iceroot: Oh, right. =(
[11:10] <iceroot> fishyfantasy: you can always use a live-cd to test if it is working well
[11:10] <iceroot> fishyfantasy: e.g. 11.10 as a live-cd
[11:10] <fishyfantasy> metaspikes: Great, will google more about them =) thanks
[11:10] <vouth> almoxarife: Those errors only apply to the currently functional system. The broken one is dead as a doornail (I can't get X or networking on it).
[11:11] <metaspikes> remoteCTRL: iceroot is also correct however, you gotta nip this on the bud i think that mint is a bad idea for you at this point. good luck
[11:11] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: also (only my opinion) ubuntu is bad for secure servers
[11:11] <vouth> almoxarife: That's what I meant when I said "That's not the one that's having trouble though." earlier.
[11:11] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: i would suggest debian instead of ubuntu
[11:11] <vouth> almoxarife: Probably I was unclear :-P
[11:12] <remoteCTRL> metaspikes: similar to monit, so to speak
[11:12] <almoxarife> vouth: make up my mind?
[11:12] <vouth> almoxarife: Or more accurately, *definitely* I was unclear.
[11:12] <metaspikes> debian stable - it might be 'dated' but at least its secure.
[11:12] <remoteCTRL> ServerSage: i am afraid you got a point there...
[11:12] <KinG`PiN> I used to like ubuntu, untill it started to look like OS X
[11:12] <fishyfantasy> iceroot: I see. I did try it before installing. No sound when using Headphone but it works without headphone. Not sure how to fix that.
[11:12] <vouth> almoxarife: Uhm, wut? Sorry :-S Think I missed something there.
[11:12] <ServerSage> remoteCTRL: Huh?  I haven't said anything in like an hour.  Hehe.
[11:12] <AxonetBE> how can I see how much mails there are send with postfix?
[11:12] <almoxarife> vouth: when you are on the machine with the problems we talk, be resourceful, find a way to chat
[11:13] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: definitely aggree on that; all our backends run on debian
[11:13] <metaspikes> fishyfantasy: have a look in alsamixer for a headphone channel
[11:13] <iceroot> fishyfantasy: sounds like a common mute-isse, syou should have a look at "alsamixer"
[11:13] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: the xen hosts as well as the guests...
[11:13] <fishyfantasy> metaspikes: I installed alsamixer but it won't open.
[11:13] <remoteCTRL> ServerSage: erm sorry i guess i meant iceroot :D
[11:14] <fishyfantasy> iceroot: I installed alsamixer but it won't open when I click it =(
[11:14] <remoteCTRL> i am stressed, damned! :D
[11:14] <metaspikes> laugh it off :)
[11:14] <remoteCTRL> metaspikes: do those apps require customization?
[11:14] <metaspikes> fishyfantasy: open a terminal and run it there
[11:15] <vouth> almoxarife: To do that, I would have to be able to get the OS in question online. Unfortunately, the current issue *is* getting it online. Therefore, I can't find a way to chat until I know a way to connect to the Internet, which is why I am chatting now.
[11:15] <metaspikes> remoteCTRL: balliste will ask you dozens of questions if you let it, it's pretty damn paranoid but i like that
[11:15] <almoxarife> vouth: you said it was different disks on same machine
[11:16] <dyd_> how can i "burn" a bootable iso on an usb drive?
[11:16] <_NiC> remoteCTRL, e and w options to ps show some more info that might be useful
[11:16] <almoxarife> dyd_: on a ubuntu machine right now?
[11:16] <remoteCTRL> metaspikes: suitable for servers then... how about checksecurity?
[11:16] <dyd_> almoxarife, yes
[11:16] <vouth> almoxarife: I should probably be going soon. It's 6 in the morning for me and time to go to bed. :-P Yes, it is. There are two operating systems. One is on one disk, one is on another. One can connect to the Internet and be used for chat, the other I don't know how to make connect (that is the one being diagnosed).
[11:17] <remoteCTRL> _NiC: with or without the minus?
[11:17] <metaspikes> remoteCTRL: it's suitable for hardening security, however if you stick with your current system, it may not suffice, checksecurity i dunno
[11:17] <dyd_> almoxarife, i tried unetbootin but i don't know why it won't copy the iso files in the usb, it just make the few boot files
[11:17] <Caifas> Hello guys,
[11:17] <Caifas> I'm trying to remaster ubuntu with uck but I'm having this problem "Cannot mount /home/alexandre/tmp/remaster-iso/casper/filesystem.squashfs in /home/alexandre/tmp/remaster-root-mount, error=32" and before that i have this warning "mount: warning: /home/alexandre/tmp/remaster-iso-mount seems to be mounted read-only." but i have no ro mounted partition, anyone can give me a hand?
[11:17] <almoxarife> dyd_: look for 'start-disk-creator' I may not have the works in order
[11:17] <almoxarife> dyd_: words
[11:18] <remoteCTRL> metaspikes: iceroot: ok guys, the mint computer was an experiment, as noone here really seems to like unity, neither gnome 3, i think i will declare the experiment done...
[11:18] <almoxarife> vouth: the problem OS is what?
[11:19] <_NiC> remoteCTRL, I usually go with ps auxfwwe
[11:19] <metaspikes> remoteCTRL: also have a look at your actual router's security permissions, that's your first line of defence after all.
[11:20] <remoteCTRL> metaspikes: we have ip-cop distro running as router, atm i am completely petrified about it, considering that this japanese guy smoehow obviously got through it
[11:20] <remoteCTRL> still not knowing whether my mint actually is a trojan horse -.-
[11:20] <almoxarife> remoteCTRL: yes, it is
[11:20] <metaspikes> nuke it
[11:21] <remoteCTRL> hell yeah i will
[11:21] <dyd_> almoxarife, i found it, but when i select the iso it won't load it (it's an mac os x iso)
[11:21] <theadmin> dyd_: Um, we don't support OS X here
[11:21] <remoteCTRL> metaspikes: i will consider your advise and try to start lauching now
[11:21] <tristan1> remoteCTRL: heard of dd-wrt?
[11:21] <vouth> almoxarife: Maverick 10.10, hostname 'blossom'. The functional OS is also Maverick 10.10, but it has the hostname 'autumnfairy-P4X400-8235'. I think of them by their hostnames because it's much easier than saying 'the Ubuntu Maverick that has x' or 'the Ubuntu Maverick that has y and z' or some such solution.
[11:21] <almoxarife> dyd_: nevermind, this is ubuntu
[11:21] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: it has nothing to do with disliking gnome3/unity
[11:22] <remoteCTRL> tristan1: sure have, and have openwrt running on my private linksys wrt54, but thanks for the hint! :)
[11:22] <fishyfantasy> Is BUM = Boot-Up Manager?
[11:22] <metaspikes> yes
[11:22] <almoxarife> FishFace: you may not be ready for BUM
[11:22] <fishyfantasy> metaspikes: Thanks.
[11:22] <metaspikes> also, yes :)
[11:22] <tristan1> remoteCRTL: then couldnt you block his attempt using the wrt firewall..
[11:22] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: but what does a gui has to do with a server?
[11:23] <dyd_> well, i'm not looking for support for mac, i just wanted to know if there's a way to burn an iso on an usb
[11:23] <dyd_> with ubuntu
[11:23] <metaspikes> dont disable anything u dont know what it is heh
[11:23] <iceroot> dyd_: dd
[11:23] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: well my customers were moaning and groaning about it, so i had to install xfce on a few and as said i wanted to see how mint behaves in the real world...
[11:23] <theadmin> dyd_: dd if=yourfile.iso of=yourusbstick, but... It won't boot :/ OS X doesn't work that way
[11:23] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: lxde is always a good choice :)
[11:23] <fishyfantasy> metaspikes: BUM looks complicated heh
[11:24] <dyd_> thank you anyway, i'll google
[11:24] <almoxarife> fishyfantasy: I was not clear, you definitely are not ready for BUM, don't touch it
[11:24] <fishyfantasy> almoxarife: Sure thing
[11:24] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: that is lightweight waht?
[11:24] <tristan1> dyd_: of course there is.. but mac and ubuntu have TONS of issues.. because apple doesnt want there software and hardware to be open.. its hard to find drivers and alot of hardware is basically unuasable..
[11:25] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: lightweight x11 desktop environment
[11:25] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: there is an ubuntu-reviat called lubuntu
[11:25] <almoxarife> dyd_: I assume you need to be using something that already has the base OS to create a same OS like disk
[11:25] <tristan1> with ubuntu you cant even hook up an apple cd burner and burn a ced... its a complicated task to get it going at least...
[11:25] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: isnt that one veeery basic? like sawfish or so?
[11:25] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: no need for more then the basics i would say
[11:26] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: but it is more then just the basic
[11:26] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: gosh you dont know my customers...
[11:26] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: show them unity, gnome3 and kde4
[11:26] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: thanks for the hint i will pursue this later on...
[11:26] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: and then say "hey i have something which is just workiing without fancy stuff"
[11:26] <fishyfantasy> almoxarife: Hi, do you have any idea on how to solve my overheating issue on my MacBook 2,1? Using Ubuntu 11.10
[11:26] <almoxarife> fishyfantasy: I was not clear, you definitely are not ready for BUM, don't touch it <-- I am not trying to be facetious, make changes with BUM and you may never have a working system from then on
[11:27] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: that is exactly what i was planning on doing, and then convince them all to use xfce :D
[11:27] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: yes or xfce which is similar to gnome2
[11:27] <remoteCTRL> it is
[11:27] <theadmin> remoteCTRL: Yep, XFCE's the way to go... KDE too, looks like Windows after all :D
[11:27] <dyd_> almoxarife, tristan1, i have done everything in virtual box (took days), but it's really too slow, so i want to try an installation in a partition, i have all i need, but my laptop dvd drive seems to have some problems with dvd
[11:27] <fishyfantasy> almoxarife: I understand.
[11:27] <remoteCTRL> unity and gnome3 are such a mess... unfreakingbelievable...
[11:27] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: they are not
[11:27] <almoxarife> fishyfantasy: yes, buy a new fancier apple thing, help apple, you do want to help apple don't you? ok, how about this, don't they have a walkin help center thing?
[11:28] <metaspikes> fishyfantasy: almoxarife has a point, if you dont want to learn the fundimentals of linux (alot of people arent interested eh). powertop and ccsm are still good options to help with ur issue.
[11:28] <iceroot> remoteCTRL: just a matter of needs and likes
[11:28] <remoteCTRL> theadmin: hi there gal!
[11:28] <theadmin> remoteCTRL: Hey.
[11:28] <iceroot> theadmin: but kde looks like the bad windows (vista, 7) lxde looks like the good windows (98,xp)
[11:29] <almoxarife> fishyfantasy: ccsm only effects the user account, BUM is the system, the whole enchillada
[11:29] <theadmin> iceroot: I wouldn't say 7 is bad honestly, but yeah, that's true
[11:29] <metaspikes> dyd_: qmeu-kvm has great virtualization speed if your cpu supports it...
[11:29] <fishyfantasy> almoxarife: Buying a $3999 laptop just for Ubuntu? Uh....thanks
[11:29] <tim_> I compiled irssi (0.8.15) from source. synaptics has only 0.8.14. How can i tell synaptic that i installed 0.8.15?
[11:29] <tristan1> dyd_: have you used unetbootin
[11:29] <xpsss> Ubuntu 11.10 Ubuntu attributes changes my external hard disks or partitions can not read and if I try to change attributes says you can not read-only
[11:29] <dyd_> iceroot: i've just installed lxde, clear and fast
[11:29] <remoteCTRL> iceroot: yes they are! some actions have become so really cumbersome! ever treid to copy paste something from one window to another? most of our customers always have alot of windows open, and if you need to swap windows fequently they are absolutely useless...
[11:29] <iceroot> theadmin: only when you use a deb-file
[11:29] <tristan1> dyd_: easiest way i know of..
[11:29] <almoxarife> fishyfantasy: you rock
[11:29] <theadmin> iceroot: wut?
[11:29] <iceroot> theadmin: wrong nick
[11:30] <iceroot> tim_: only when you use a deb-file
[11:30] <dyd_> tristan1, i tried, but it didn't work. i just found a guide about exactly what i need *finger crossed*
[11:30] <almoxarife> fishyfantasy: I am guessing the fancy walkin center with the coffee bar does not support ubuntu os apple things?
[11:30] <dyd_> metaspikes, i'll check that out
[11:30] <tim_> is there no way of telling synaptic "hey i already installed a new version. Tell me when there is a newer than that i have installed."? :/
[11:31] <theadmin> tim_: "checkinstall" instead of "make install".
[11:31] <theadmin> !checkinstall | tim_, read this
[11:31] <tristan1> dyd_: good luck...
[11:31] <tim_> ok thank you a lot!
[11:32] <almoxarife> fishyfantasy: you are a trend setter, bravo, most people here probably (me included) have an idea how to make an apple do stuff, you can be the expert guy
[11:32] <hareldvd> Looking for a list of text based (terminal) editors other than the obvious. Thanks.
[11:32] <metaspikes> tim_: pif possible i would use... dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot . or at least - fakeroot checkinstal make install - to build the package after make, it's safter than sudo'ing it incase the build goes haywire.
[11:33] <tim_> ok
[11:33] <tim_> ill try that
[11:34] <almoxarife> theadmin: how does checkinstall keep installed packages current?
[11:34] <metaspikes> it doesn't v_v
[11:34] <theadmin> almoxarife: It doesn't. Unless a newer versions randomly appears in the repo
[11:34] <metaspikes> just dumps the installs under /usr/local
[11:35] <almoxarife> theadmin: then checkinstall does what?
[11:35] <theadmin> almoxarife: Builds a deb package
[11:35] <almoxarife> theadmin: ic, I assume tim was not compiling
[11:38] <almoxarife> I am trying to use the logs from here to create a point and click answer for every obvious question and answer there is ( why?? cause its there), who's with me?
[11:39]  * metaspikes stares blankly at the tumbleweed
[11:43] <AziaBurgi> hello guys, our server was turned off over the holidays and today i can't get mysql to restart at all. i am getting this error: Could not connect: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2). Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions?
[11:43] <metaspikes> almoxarife: im kidding. it's a good idea, maybe a page with git access so we can contribute through actions! (talk -is- cheap afterall)
[11:43] <dyd_> what filesystems are compatible between linux and mac? for files larger than 4 gbs
[11:43] <AziaBurgi> ntfs?
[11:44] <dyd_> can't understand why it's not recognized by mac
[11:44] <almoxarife> metaspikes: I tried using git locally, I gave up. something about it is evil
[11:46] <AziaBurgi> what about FAT32 i know its old school but i seem to remember a mac friend of mine saying he has to use that
[11:46] <almoxarife> AziaBurgi: disk full?
[11:46] <tristan1> w
[11:47] <AziaBurgi> almoxarife: no plenty of space here
[11:47] <metaspikes> almoxarife: svn? has to be something, somewhere. start the project on sourceforge maybe, give it a name etc.
[11:47] <cece> I got lilyterm run with transparent background as fullscreen ,that's awesome ! Amazing experience
[11:48] <Sidewinder1> AziaBurgi, Max file size for FAT32 is 4 Gb.
[11:48] <AziaBurgi> ah
[11:48] <AziaBurgi> well no idea then
[11:48] <AziaBurgi> maybe split the file?
[11:49] <metaspikes> dyd_: im pretty sure HFS is supported by both
[11:49] <almoxarife> dyd_: ntfs?
[11:50] <dyd_> almoxarife, i'm installing a sw called NTFS-3G to make ntfs work on mac
[11:50] <dyd_> metaspikes, can i format a pen drive in ubuntu with HFS filesystem?
[11:51] <metaspikes> yes you can
[11:52] <metaspikes> see hfsutils and hfsprogs
[11:52] <metaspikes> and gparted will do the rest
[11:52] <dyd_> thank you
[11:53] <dyd_> AziaBurgi, FAT32 won't work with files larger than 4 gbs
[11:54] <metaspikes> i think mac might also support xfs, which has its perks.. not sure though eh
[11:54] <jiltdil> webcam is not capturing audio sound?Please help to fix it. I am using logitech c270h model
[11:54] <almoxarife> dyd_: http://www.mars.org/home/rob/proj/hfs/ <-- look
[11:55] <farout542> Using remote desktop, is there a way to make my machine reachable from over the internet?  Currently it shows that it will only be available via local network.
[11:55] <almoxarife> jiltdil: the web cam is part of your machine?
[11:55] <jiltdil> almoxarife,  i have connected it to my cpu
[11:56] <dyd_> almoxarife, thanks
[11:56] <almoxarife> jiltdil: connected usb? the webcam has builtin mic?
[11:56] <jiltdil> almoxarife, yes
[11:56] <metaspikes> farout542: you can, but you will have to open a port on the router and direct that to your machine then use your routers internet ip address to connect to that machine externally. go that? :D
[11:57] <almoxarife> jiltdil: and how did you record what ever it is that didn't work?
[11:57] <farout542> metaspikes: will give that a try thanks!!
[11:58] <jiltdil> almoxarife,  i use mplayer and use dekstop recorder for recording mplaye command is    mplayer tv:// -tv driver=v4l2:width=1600 :height=900 device=/dev/video0
[11:58] <eutheria> why can't i change the remote desktop resolution in vinagre 3.2.1?
[11:58] <almoxarife> jiltdil: perhaps it was not recording, what tells you the mic is not working
[11:58] <jiltdil> almoxarife,  it is saying no audio
[11:59] <metaspikes> jiltdil: use mencoder instead.
[11:59] <almoxarife> jiltdil: don't see sound accounted for on that line? should it be there?
[11:59] <jiltdil> metaspikes,  please tell how to i have no idea about mencoder?
[12:00] <almoxarife> jiltdil: don't see sound accounted for on that line? should it be there?
[12:01] <jiltdil> almoxarife,  yes may be sound mopt accounted . Please help me
[12:01] <metaspikes> mencoder is like mplayer in reverse :) it's great
[12:02] <jiltdil> almoxarife,  see this and the audio say no sound   at line 41
[12:02] <jiltdil> http://pastebin.com/QtYUBssR
[12:02] <equex> i'm miffed that practically any Linux distro the last 3 years dont work on my computer. no idea what they did
[12:02] <almoxarife> jiltdil: is the point to make it really hard to do what ever you are doing or to get it done? I don't have issues with 'vlc' but I also have a mic that works and configured so the system sees it
[12:02] <equex> but i think they dropped a lot of chipset support
[12:03] <jiltdil> almoxarife,  recording with external mike is working but with the webcam mic it is not working
[12:04] <almoxarife> jiltdil: you meant , the external mic does not work but the internal does? yes
[12:04] <equex> anyway, recent kernels cant see my hard disks.
[12:04] <psalden> hey. I am running oneiric and radeon drivers and when I return from suspend, the desktop is all glitchy. 'unity --replace' fixes this. Is there a more elegant, or at least more automatic way of getting this done?
[12:04] <metaspikes> jiltdil: mencoder -tv driver=v4l2:width=1600:height=900:device=/dev/video0 -oac mp3lame -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4 -ffourcc XVID -vf pp=lb -o output.avi tv://   - you will have to specify a capture device with alsamixer (or such) and you might have to use :adevice=/dev/<somethin> also
[12:05] <equex> regular SATA disks on a SB600 south bridge. worked fine in Ubuntu 8 and 9 perhaps. but 8 was great for sure
[12:05] <jiltdil> metaspikes,  thanks a lot :)
[12:05] <inenoo> mohamed
[12:06] <almoxarife> metaspikes: all that work, does it make coffee too?
[12:06] <metaspikes> i used a similar command to rip vhs tapes, but alas i must make my own coffee :(
[12:07] <almoxarife> metaspikes: vhs? what's that? :)
[12:07] <metaspikes> vcr tapes?... ferris bueller's day off?
[12:08] <Sidewinder1> Video Home System, as opposed to Sony's Beta-Max; video tape formats.
[12:08] <JDuke128> hi
[12:10] <almoxarife> hi'
[12:11] <metaspikes> psalden: you could fix your video issue or you could put your command somewhere under /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/ , assuming you use pm-utils im not sure
[12:11] <EuroNerd> how do I verify that a specific piece of software (e.g. vsftpd) is installed on my Ubuntu?
[12:12] <metaspikes> EuroNerd:   dpkg-query -l | grep vsftpd  - is one way
[12:12] <equex> does anyone know if there are projects that are based on Ubuntu 8.x LTS that are still alive?
[12:14] <Sidewinder1> equex, 8.x is EOL, with the exception of 8.04 Server, which goes EOL in 04-2013.
[12:16] <almoxarife> EuroNerd: the less intrusive way would be thru software center on 11.10
[12:16] <PoNuts> Seem that i have a printerproblem
[12:16] <PoNuts> when sending job to the HPmfp 6410 it continues to print...
[12:16] <Sidewinder1> !nickspam | PrinceofPersia
[12:17] <psalden> metaspikes: thanks. I have no idea how to fix that video issue; I always assumed it to be a faulty driver problem. As for the mechanism for suspend I'm using, it's just oneiric's default I guess. I simply click suspend in the menu at the upper right :)
[12:17] <PoNuts> never stop, if I'm not goingin to delete the job from print command
[12:17] <almoxarife> PoNuts: prints what?
[12:18] <PoNuts> this time a picture.. before that i tried with gedit
[12:18] <almoxarife> PoNuts: prints what? what does it print once the picture is done printing?
[12:18] <PoNuts> it a ipp://printer
[12:18] <PoNuts> it repeat it self...
[12:19] <almoxarife> PoNuts: it prints multiple pictures
[12:19] <PoNuts> I've tried to expecit marked that i only one one copy.. doesnt matter
[12:19] <PoNuts> almoxarife: correct
[12:20] <almoxarife> PoNuts: could the hardware(printer) be defaulting to multiple copies?
[12:21] <vatzec> Hi. I'm having the following issue: I am connected to a network, and I can connect to computers inside that network, but I can't connect to external hosts, though I can ping them. Here is an example ping response: http://pastebin.com/i4krci9F . Do you know what the issue is?
[12:21] <cece>   /quit
[12:23] <PoNuts> Haven found that yet.. Ive tried to change the driver from postscript to non postscript.
[12:23] <almoxarife> vatzec: something easy, can you web browse?
[12:24] <almoxarife> PoNuts: changed drivers because?
[12:24] <PoNuts> just to try.
[12:25] <PoNuts> i did a test page before.. and that came out only one.
[12:25] <almoxarife> PoNuts: how about now, do a test page
[12:26] <metaspikes> vatzec: bad /etc/hosts ? could be a dns fault...
[12:26] <PoNuts> lets try
[12:26] <PoNuts> it came in the print que and disapeared..
[12:26] <PoNuts> no sound from the printer more..
[12:27] <PoNuts> everything in order.. so far.
[12:28] <PoNuts> told me that a HP cl cm6040 MFP
[12:30] <PoNuts> i try a webpage now.. let see..
[12:30] <metaspikes> is there a way to scroll up with xterm even though there's stuff being written to it?
[12:30] <PoNuts> vanished again.. so good so far almoxarife
[12:30] <vatzec> metaspikes: I was thinking it has to do with routing, i.e. `route`
[12:31] <vatzec> metaspikes: All my /etc/hosts has is just localhost and my computer's name entries
[12:31] <metaspikes> PoNuts: restarted the service/system since driver install? sudo service cups restart
[12:31] <ylmfos> Hallo zusammen !
[12:32] <ylmfos> hello !!
[12:32] <vatzec> metaspikes: Funny enough, when I'm in another room, near the main router, I guess, it does work, as if when connecting through the main router, it doesn't need that specific routing.
[12:32] <vatzec> (It's a wifi network.)
[12:33] <vatzec> almoxarife: No
[12:33] <Sidewinder1> PoNuts, First you said "HPmfp 6410", then above "HP cl cm6040 MFP", I wonder if that's not the problem..
[12:33] <almoxarife> vatzec: dns
[12:33] <PoNuts> sry..
[12:33] <ylmfos> mein os ist super !!
[12:34] <iceroot> !de | ylmfos
[12:34] <A_J> Sidewinder1 what's the odds you are related to sidewindercomputers ?
[12:34] <vatzec> almoxarife: Are you sure? I can ping hosts from outside of my network by their hostnames, such as google.pl
[12:34] <Sidewinder1> A_J, none. :-)
[12:34] <A_J> :( nvm then
[12:34] <Sidewinder1> np
[12:34] <metaspikes> vatzec: you could probably add the router you want to hosts, it -might- im unfamiliar sadly
[12:35] <PoNuts> Seems that i did chose back to postscript, and let my fingers not touch any tweaking... the paper got out ok.
[12:36] <almoxarife> vatzec: true, so you got dns for ping but not the browser?
[12:36] <PoNuts> Thx.. almoxarife:
[12:36] <vatzec> almoxarife: Did you read that link I have sent to the channel? Yep, I can't browse or telnet, but I can ping.
[12:36] <vatzec> almoxarife: Though I get an extra message as a result with every ping.
[12:37] <vatzec> almoxarife: Neither can I connect to an external host using its IP address.
[12:37] <almoxarife> vatzec: I see you are at a school
[12:37] <vatzec> Yep
[12:38] <almoxarife> vatzec: does that school firewall outgoing traffic??
[12:38] <vatzec> almoxarife: Possibly, why?
[12:38] <ubuntu> wow did i really just get onto the ubuntu server with nick ubuntu?
[12:38] <ubuntu> impressive
[12:39] <A_J> lol
[12:39] <d3ngar> Hi there, new problem for me in Ubuntu 10.11: I can't hold backspace down to delete text
[12:39] <d3ngar> It's frustrating
[12:39] <d3ngar> Who can keep hammering backspace to delete text?
[12:40] <almoxarife> vatzec: when did you first notice the issue?
[12:40] <vatzec> almoxarife: At the beginning of the school year
[12:40] <vatzec> almoxarife: But I should note that I have also freshly installed Ubuntu on this laptop then.
[12:41] <PoNuts> a small joke to thx to rest of you "CChheecckk yyoouurr dduupplleexx sswwiittcchh."
[12:41] <vatzec> almoxarife: Before that, it also ran Ubuntu, but another version.
[12:41] <almoxarife> vatzec: is there a webserver within the school? something you can see thru a web browser?
[12:41] <vatzec> almoxarife: Yes
[12:42] <ubuntu> hey is irc.ubuntu.com a node of freenode?
[12:42] <vatzec> almoxarife: I think it's in a building relatively far from here, in a different part of town, but within the domain uj.edu.pl
[12:42] <metaspikes> d3ngar: something is interuppting it?
[12:42] <d3ngar> metaspikes: not that I could tell?
[12:43] <d3ngar> I'ts not just this keyboard, it's another one too
[12:43] <almoxarife> vatzec: it could be in another country, but within your domain
[12:43] <vatzec> almoxarife: Maybe
[12:43] <PoNuts> d3ngar: does it delete one character nothing happens?
[12:43] <metaspikes> is there a gnome thingy that configures keyboard on your system?
[12:43] <almoxarife> vatzec: you at the school right now?
[12:43] <d3ngar> One chartacter at the time
[12:43] <Sidewinder1> ubuntu, Yes, Freenode.
[12:44] <vatzec> almoxarife: Yes
[12:44] <ubuntu> is there anyway to show overall progress for rsync but not the individual files as they transfer? As in if i do --progress it shows me all the files as they transfer, if i do -q --progress, it shows me nothing o.O
[12:44] <Solshine> came here, then exited 'cause I thought I found the solution on Google, but I was wrong - I'm trying to install a brand new Windows XP installation on a computer that currently has Ubuntu on it, and is devoid of a working CD-ROM reader. My only option is to use a USB stick atm. Is it possible at all?
[12:44] <PoNuts> d3ngar: try to start systemsettings/ keyboard
[12:44] <almoxarife> vatzec: you connect to the server no problem, its outside your domain
[12:44] <Solshine> Version of Ubuntu on the computer currently is 11.x
[12:45] <PoNuts> d3ngar: and then swap to youre window and try repeat funktion again.
[12:45] <vatzec> almoxarife: I'm the administrator of a server at the uni
[12:45] <d3ngar> PoNuts:No, each character needs a new keystroke
[12:45] <vatzec> almoxarife: A students' one
[12:45] <d3ngar> PoNuts: it's annoying
[12:46] <vatzec> almoxarife: And it has a connection
[12:46] <almoxarife> vatzec: so what is the answer, do you firewall port 80 connections ?
[12:46] <PoNuts> d3ngar: belive so.. i had the same, then in  a strange way i unactiated a mouse funktion in my vmware... I use ubuntu as the main OS
[12:46] <PoNuts> and it start to work.
[12:47] <d3ngar> PoNuts: I also use Ubuntu as the main OS
[12:47] <almoxarife> vatzec: it would be interesting to see if TOR worked in your case :)
[12:47] <vatzec> almoxarife: I'm not the admin of the network, but of a single server for students'
[12:47] <d3ngar> I have a VM running, but this problem is occuring on all machines that I have 10.11 on
[12:47] <vatzec> almoxarife: I'll try
[12:48] <almoxarife> vatzec: you must have info on what is and what is not firewalled, my god man, you are an admin!
[12:48] <vatzec> almoxarife: Haha. :D But the server might be in a completely different place.
[12:49] <vatzec> almoxarife: It's a server for a student organization.
[12:49] <almoxarife> vatzec: I am not condoning the use of TOR, I meant it in a strictly educational way
[12:49] <vatzec> almoxarife: TOR works, but takes a while at step "10%"
[12:49] <ubuntu> almoxarife: what's wrong with tor?
[12:49] <PoNuts> d3ngar: As quick as i open the keyboard-settings with repeat key and touch a control .. it worked for me.
[12:49] <boru> Afternoon all. I'm trying to compile my application on 11.10 but it's currently failing to link against gtkmm3. I've got `pkg-config --libs gtkmm-3.0` in my Makefile.am and it works at the terminal to do it manually. Can anyone suggest what might be the issue? I symlinked /bin/sh to /bin/bash as I thought dash wasn't expaning the backticks but still no luck.
[12:49] <vatzec> almoxarife: ... which it doesn't normally.
[12:49] <almoxarife> ubuntu: nothing, its great
[12:50] <ubuntu> almoxarife: even for non educational purposes...
[12:50] <d3ngar> touch control?
[12:50] <almoxarife> ubuntu: thought of changing your nick?
[12:50] <boru> I'll add that it compiles everywhere else I've tried it, just not on ubuntu.
[12:50] <d3ngar> PoNuts: Yes you are right!
[12:50] <ubuntu> almoxarife: na :p i quite like having ubuntu in #ubuntu
[12:50] <d3ngar> What can I do about this?
[12:51] <PoNuts> I disabled in vmware and starting to use ctrl+g
[12:51] <d3ngar> ??
[12:52] <d3ngar> PoNuts: What do you mean by "disabled (it) in VMWare and starting to use ctrl+g
[12:52] <Negat1ve-Zer0> kind of curious, anyone familiar with buffer overflows and ubuntu 11.10? I was testing a program I wrote to test buffer overflows and what happens exactly, depending on the size of the overflow it appears I get different resulting messages so I was wondering if anyone's familiar with that
[12:52] <murrayc> boru: What's the actual error that you see?
[12:54] <Negat1ve-Zer0> and also, anyone know why if I write over a char[10] buffer by say 4 or 5 bytes...it still doesn't run into my next memory array
[12:54] <boru> murrayc, it's a whole host of linker errors for gtkmm types. This works everywhere else, I'm just wondering why it doesn't on ubuntu. I replaces the /bin/sh symlink with one to bash but it's still not expanding the pkg-config command seemingly. I've installed the relevant packages.
[12:54] <iceroot> Negat1ve-Zer0: maybe ##c or ##c++ is better for that
[12:55] <Negat1ve-Zer0> ok, I'll try there I went to #c++ but got a cannot send to channel
[12:55] <boru> I see you dropped out after before message, murrayc
[12:55] <iceroot> !register | Negat1ve-Zer0
[12:55] <Negat1ve-Zer0> ah
[12:55] <PoNuts> d3ngar:  I did uncheck a crossbox (dont recall which), than I hvae to use ctrl+g to activate the controll, this has been a slight...better way than the reapet function not be enabled.
[12:56] <boru> I don't want to spam, can I msg you murrayc?
[12:56] <iceroot> Negat1ve-Zer0: that should fix the issue
[12:56] <Negat1ve-Zer0> iceroot: thanks
[12:56] <murrayc> boru: Use some pastebin.
[12:56] <boru> My message wasn't output, murrayc.
[12:56] <boru> murrayc, it's a whole host of linker errors for gtkmm types. This works everywhere else, I'm just wondering why it doesn't on ubuntu. I replaces the /bin/sh symlink with one to bash but it's still not expanding the pkg-config command seemingly. I've installed the relevant packages.
[12:57] <boru> Autotools is the same version as everywhere else
[12:57] <boru> So I'm a bit stumped
[12:57] <murrayc> boru: Why aren't you just doing PKG_CHECK_MODULES() in configure.ac?
[12:58] <boru> murrayc, I'm not trying to enforce a minimum version, I'm passing flags to gcc.
[12:59] <PoNuts> d3ngar: http://askubuntu.com/questions/81296/repeat-key-functionality-doesnt-work
[13:00] <no_gravity> Hello! Is sound-juicer still the default way to rip CDs?
[13:00] <no_gravity> Im on Ubuntu 10 I think and I would like to convert a CD to mp3s. There seems to be no default app for that.
[13:01] <boru> Did you get my last message, murrayc?
[13:02] <murrayc> no
[13:02] <metaspikes> boru: i normally take a look at the Makefile and change/add flags there
[13:02] <Sidewinder1> no_gravity, Look in your repos., for Sound Converter.
[13:02] <boru> I'm not trying to enforce a minimum version, I'm passing flags to gcc.
[13:02] <murrayc> boru: There is no need to enforce a minimum version when using PKG_CHECK_MODULES(). But you should enforce a minimum version.
[13:02] <no_gravity> Sidewinder1: if there is nothing already installed, i could just do "apt-get sound-juicer". if there is already something installed, i would use it.
[13:03] <vatzec> almoxarife: Do you have any ideas how to determine what's wrong?
[13:03] <boru> I'm not at the point of freezing binaries just yet.
[13:03] <boru> But my problem remains, is there any reason why the pkg-config command wouldn't expand properly?
[13:04] <murrayc> boru: You should be using PKG_CHECK_MODULES(). And I have not seen the error and I have not seen any of your files.
[13:04] <boru> Like I said, I redirected that /bin/sh symlink to bash.
[13:04] <Sidewinder1> no_gravity, I'm on 10.04 and I use Sound Converter; not sure if it was installed by default or I downloaded and installed, in Synaptic.
[13:04] <almoxarife> vatzec: what would 'right' be, specifically
[13:04] <vatzec> almoxarife: Why I can't connect to servers outside my network
[13:05] <no_gravity> Sidewinder1: "sound converter" - it would be rather unusual for a command to have a whitespace in the name. whats the name of it?
[13:05] <s4lt-n-p3pr> hi
[13:05] <almoxarife> vatzec: you can, you are connected to freenode, it's a server
[13:05] <s4lt-n-p3pr> can some one halp me
[13:06] <vatzec> almoxarife: OK, but I'm connecting through an external server
[13:06] <boru> I'll give that a shot instead, murrayc. It's something I'd overlooked. Thanks.
[13:06] <vatzec> almoxarife: my computer -> SSH to a server which is in the same network but has Internet connectivity -> IRC
[13:06] <owenll> ask! | s4lt-n-p3pr
[13:06] <murrayc> boru: There are lots of gtkmm-using projects that you can look at, for an example. Glom is my own.
[13:06] <Sidewinder1> no_gravity, It's SoundConverter 1.4.4, it's a gnome program.
[13:06] <prizm> does the qemu-kvm package work on amd64 hardware without VT?
[13:07] <no_gravity> Sidewinder1: ok, i dont have it. i installed soundjuicer now.
[13:08] <almoxarife> vatzec: you just said it, you don't have internet connectivity and you are at a school, someone does not care to provide you with connectivity? why not use the same ssh to internet connect to what ever it is you are wanting to get at?
[13:09] <boru> I'm pretty ok with gtkmm murrayc. I was just a bit puzzled as to why this wasn't building here. I normally leave more up to automake, but I'll see if autoconf will do what I need. I appreciate the suggestion though.
[13:09] <vatzec> almoxarife: Because it's a nasty hack, requiring the use of another machine, while this shouldn't be necessary.
[13:09] <EuroNerd> Is installing ubuntu-desktop on top of Ubuntu Server a bad idea?
[13:09] <almoxarife> vatzec: you just said you ssh into someone else at the school, being nasty already
[13:09] <dr_willis> i set up a znc (irc bouncer) :) its handy and not a hack. but it depends on your needs/
[13:09] <vatzec> almoxarife: Yes. And I'd like to avoid this.
[13:10] <dr_willis> EuroNerd:  you just basically install the ubuntu-desktop package to turn it into a desktop type install.   Normally its best to do a desktop install first. then install the services you need.
[13:10] <theadmin> EuroNerd: It's fine
[13:10] <dr_willis> EuroNerd:  but it shoudl work either way.
[13:10] <vatzec> dr_willis: I have a different problem, but thanks. :)
[13:10] <EuroNerd> ok, thanks
[13:10] <flatline> hi, is Ubuntu Liquid project still active? if so, is there an IRC channel for it?
[13:11] <dr_willis> flatline:  never heard of it :)
[13:11] <flatline> dr_willis: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/UbuntuLiquid here
[13:11] <almoxarife> vatzec: someone does not want you on the internet, you are not going to get to it without some creativity( I am not condoning any act which is a crime in poland either), so, what to do? got ze/nmap? :)
[13:11] <EuroNerd> dr_willis, from what I've read somewhere, there are actually some fundamental differences between Server and Desktop (like context switch frequency), so I preferred to get a proper Server first and now am considering to make my life easier by adding GUI.
[13:11] <metaspikes> EuroNerd: i digress :) in case of limited resources,, it would make sense to load the desktop elements to the server selectively.
[13:12] <dr_willis> EuroNerd:  that would most likely be depending on the kernel you are using.
[13:12] <EuroNerd> metaspikes, I wouldn't know how to do that, I'm a total newbie :)
[13:12] <vatzec> almoxarife: No. :) But I am authorized to have access to Internet here. It's just that for some, probably software-ish reason, I can't access it.
[13:12] <flatline> EuroNerd: gui is always a bad choice in a server environment in the long run
[13:12] <theadmin> flatline: It's not even released yet. It's not dead, but I don't think a channel will exist for a non-existing project. When some initial release is made, we'll have one
[13:12] <EuroNerd> flatline, why?
[13:12] <dr_willis> EuroNerd:  why did you do a server install if you are a total newbie?
[13:12] <flatline> EuroNerd: once you set it up you will always regret having to use GUI to do stuff on it
[13:12] <almoxarife> vatzec: those admins, you just can't trust them, always making it hard on the little people
[13:13] <flatline> just have your time and do it on cli
[13:13] <flatline> totally worth it.
[13:13] <almoxarife> vatzec: tor didn't work?
[13:13] <EuroNerd> dr_willis, because I want to play with node.js
[13:13] <vatzec> almoxarife: It did connect to the directory server, get the list of nodes and say it's ready.
[13:13] <dr_willis> No idea what node.js is.. or why it would not work on a desktop install.
[13:14] <almoxarife> vatzec: there you go, you are set
[13:14] <vatzec> almoxarife: But still, I should have normal access to the Internet here, without such hacks, as my friends do. Do you have any ideas what I could do in my situation?
[13:14] <almoxarife> vatzec: move in with your friends?
[13:14] <vatzec> But this is indeed a step forward. :)
[13:14] <flatline> theadmin: I'm interested in the project, also would like to contribute since I will be using it on a work project if that goes well. :(
[13:14] <vatzec> It's a wifi in the uni building.
[13:14] <EuroNerd> dr_willis, node.js is a language for running websites, like PHP.  (To be specific, it's server-side javascript. :)
[13:15] <theadmin> Speaking of the server edition.... I see Ubuntu as a highly desktop-oriented distro. As such, the server edition might suffer from having insufficent support. Is that so?
[13:15] <flatline> also, has the patch for hashDoS started rolling?
[13:15] <dr_willis> EuroNerd:  i dont see any real reason why that wouldent work on a desktop install. but if you want to install teh full ubuntu desktop on a 'server' it should work
[13:15] <EuroNerd> dr_willis, I'm pretty sure it would run on Desktop too - anything could probably run on desktop, I just want to do it the "right" way. ;)
[13:16] <Eimann> morning. does ubuntu 11.10 alternate installer do automatic alignment to 4K boundaries?
[13:16] <raven> rescuing data from fat32 partitions - which tool is able to?
[13:16] <flatline> theadmin: nope, indeed I've been using fedora for our server instances for a long time and started using ubuntu-server for the last 3-6 months. ubuntu-server support is pretty much superior to any other distro server edition.
[13:16] <theadmin> EuroNerd: The "right" way is to install server tools on desktop, not vice versa
[13:16] <dr_willis> raven:  done it befor with 'ddrescue' and a lot of time/patience.
[13:16] <theadmin> raven: photorec (part of the "testdisk" package)
[13:16] <EuroNerd> theadmin, I didn't know that.
[13:16] <raven> theadmin, ok tnx
[13:16] <raven> dr_willis, yes i did already
[13:17] <EuroNerd> theadmin, dr_willis, either way, I'm actually running two VMs in parallel, one with Desktop, the other one with Server, just to increase my chances I get node.js to work eventually.  :]
[13:17] <dr_willis> i recovered 2+TB of data from a external usb once. :)  then the silly usb started working right...  the workout must of scared it.. :)
[13:20] <lalagirl> hi? is anyone there?
[13:20] <theadmin> lalagirl: Many people :D
[13:20] <boru> murrayc, I'm beginning to suspect there is something further amiss here. Even using that autoconf macro instead, the linker doesn't seem to be able to find the gtkmm types. I've installed the *-dev package for gtkmm3 so I'm at a loss to explain this one. What do you think?
[13:21] <lalagirl> theadmin okay thanks.
[13:21] <Motafoca> guys, i changed the plymouth theme and recreated the initramfs and i still get the purple image on boot, suggestions? ubuntu 11.10....
[13:23] <valadares> is there any other network manager for linux (wireless/wired/3g) in addition to the network manager?
[13:23] <Resistance> valadares:  wicd i think is one
[13:23] <metaspikes> purple screen of death :p Motafoca, does recovery mode work?
[13:24] <valadares> wicd support 3g?
[13:24] <valadares> Resistance: wicd support 3g?
[13:24] <Resistance> valadares:  i'm not sure what you mean by 3g
[13:25] <Resistance> valadares:  do you mean mobile broadband, like a wireless 3g network adapter (similar to ones from Verizon, Sprint, etc.)
[13:25] <Motafoca> metaspikes: whavent tried, but whats the idea?
[13:25] <prizm> does the qemu-kvm package work on amd64 hardware without VT? i'd like to know, my processor doesn't have it
[13:25] <valadares> Resistance: yes,is it
[13:26] <prizm> i know in Debian the KVM and software emulators are split, not in ubuntu
[13:26] <iceroot> prizm: it should because qemu does not need ct-v (imo) i think its a good idea to see also #kvm
[13:26] <Resistance> valadares:  i dont use wicd, i'm not sure if it supports "3G" (as you call it, I call it Mobile Broadband)
[13:26] <Resistance> i can find out though
[13:26] <Resistance> *pulls up his Google-fu*
[13:26] <evilkid> hi
[13:26] <boru> murrayc, spotted my mistake. Had the libs in _LDFLAGS instead of _LDADD - I'm an idiot. Thanks again.
[13:27] <NimeshNeema> good GUI editors for ubuntu. Will be using mostly for coding in various languages
[13:27] <valadares> Resistance: i already use it, but i don't found a option to manage mobile broadband
[13:27] <iceroot> NimeshNeema: emacs
[13:27] <NimeshNeema> GUI text editors
[13:27] <Resistance> !wicd | valadares
[13:27] <Resistance> bleh
[13:27] <Resistance> valadares:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WICD
[13:27] <Resistance> it cant manage 3g
[13:27] <evilkid> how can i install a sagem wifi driver under ubuntu? (i already download a tar.bz2 file, i just need to know how to install it)
[13:28] <Resistance> says so in the upstream code docs and the wiki
[13:28] <NimeshNeema> iceroot: way too intimidating. what are my options
[13:28] <iceroot> NimeshNeema: you said "good"
[13:29] <iceroot> NimeshNeema: you can also use eclipse, gedit, notepad++
[13:29] <NimeshNeema> iceroot: i didn't said BEST
[13:29] <iceroot> NimeshNeema: if you asked for the best editor, of course the answer would be vim :)
[13:29] <iceroot> NimeshNeema: a, gvim, it has a gui :)
[13:29] <NimeshNeema> iceroot: didn't knew notepad++ was available for Linux
[13:29] <metaspikes> Motafoca: purge the theme and probably get a generic kernel back
[13:29] <iceroot> NimeshNeema: imo i saw it for linux
[13:30]  * almoxarife still prefers the win3.1 notepad for really critical work
[13:31] <NimeshNeema> iceroot: :-( only for windows
[13:31] <iceroot> NimeshNeema: then use gvim
[13:31] <Motafoca> metaspikes: its generic ;s
[13:31] <NimeshNeema> iceroot: okies
[13:31] <iceroot> NimeshNeema: or maybe have a look at "kate" too, i like it very much, or gedit
[13:31] <iceroot> NimeshNeema: but if you want a REAL editor there are only emacs and vim for powerfull things
[13:31] <NimeshNeema> iceroot: gedit is my current editor...
[13:31] <NimeshNeema> iceroot: agree
[13:33] <Motafoca> metaspikes: let me make it simpler, how to remove the purple image? i dont care if its verbose, but on grub the verbose only shows kernel info after the kernel is loaded, before that i get purple image :S
[13:33] <Motafoca> i believe its because of the theme inside the initram
[13:33] <Resistance> Motafoca:  you want to disable the ubuntu load screen that's purple?
[13:34] <Resistance> Motafoca:  after grub, that is.
[13:34] <Resistance> Motafoca:  if so, i might have a solution for you
[13:34] <almoxarife> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SciTE <-- under-stated
[13:34] <iceroot> NimeshNeema: for a powerfull IDE you could have a look at "eclipse" not everyones favoritie but a powerfull IDE
[13:35] <Motafoca> Resistance: yes!
[13:35] <evilkid> anyone?,
[13:35] <Sidewinder1> Well, looks like openprinting.org is 'down', again.. :-(
[13:35] <n2diy> I just upgraded an Xubuntu 10.10 box to Ubuntu 11.10, and now Korganizer won't run. The Akonadi PIM service is not operational. I reinstalled both, but still no joy.
[13:35]  * Sidewinder1 Sighs.
[13:35] <Motafoca> Resistance: i wanted to replace, but since its not working, i rather remove ;)
[13:35] <evilkid> ....can anyone help me with this.?
[13:36] <Resistance> Motafoca:  so you want to see basically the text that identifies the thing loading and what not?  in GRUB there's no way atm to remove the purple background behind it.
[13:36] <Hackmyi> hey all
[13:36] <Resistance> Motafoca:  you can remove the "ubuntu" loading screen with the orange/white dots though
[13:36] <Hackmyi> anyone own a iphone ?
[13:36] <Resistance> Motafoca:  that'd be done by your grub defaults
[13:36] <Resistance> Hackmyi:  ipodtouch, close enough.  why?
[13:36] <evilkid> omfg >.> im invisible ...
[13:37] <Motafoca> Resistance: how to do that?
[13:37] <Hackmyi> have youi ever jailbroken your device ?
[13:37] <almoxarife> evilkid: you have the file, and what is it you are suppose to do with it? what file? specific
[13:37] <Resistance> Motafoca:  gimme a sec, i have to find the conf file to edit
[13:37] <iceroot> Hackmyi: offtopic here
[13:38] <Resistance> Hackmyi:  yes, and it near bricked my device.  why?  also, if its not ubuntu-related, try ##apple
[13:38] <iceroot> Hackmyi: best is to buy products which dont need a jailbreak first to work as you want it
[13:38] <AFD> I'm having issues with bluetooth - was initially connected to a BT speaker, then couldn't connect so tried to unpair and repair. now Ubuntu says it is paired but I can't connect or see it in the dropdown / sound settings
[13:38] <AFD> any help please
[13:38] <evilkid> almoxarife : finally, well i have a zb1211.tar.bz2 , now i guess im suppose to extract it somewhere, but idk how and where, i remeber doing this when i first got it, but now i forgot how
[13:38] <evilkid> ...
[13:38] <iceroot> evilkid: right click on the file and choose extract
[13:39] <evilkid> iceroot: to where ..
[13:39] <iceroot> evilkid: doesnt matter
[13:39] <NimeshNeema> iceroot: is kate available only for KDE
[13:39] <evilkid> iceroot ..
[13:39] <iceroot> NimeshNeema: no for every desktop
[13:40] <iceroot> NimeshNeema: all packages/programs in the ubuntu repos can be used with every desktop
[13:40] <Motafoca> Resistance: i edited /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[13:40] <iceroot> evilkid: the place is not important, you have to compile it after you extraetced it
[13:40] <Motafoca> removed the theme stuff
[13:40] <Motafoca> kinda solved
[13:40] <Resistance> Motafoca:  you shouldnt edit that file unfortunately
[13:40] <iceroot> evilkid: or do other things with it, there should be a README or INSTALL file with a docu
[13:40] <Resistance> Motafoca:  that file gets regenerated when a kernel gets installed iirc
[13:40] <metaspikes> AFD, I use a package called bluez, although its a debian thing so dunno
[13:40] <Motafoca> Resistance: i know but i hate grub2 :)
[13:40] <NimeshNeema> iceroot: thanks a lot
[13:40] <Resistance> Motafoca:  i asked this on Ubuntu Forums, so i'm going to go find that thread
[13:40] <Resistance> gimme a sec
[13:40] <iceroot> NimeshNeema: but of course some programs pulling some libs with them
[13:40] <Motafoca> Resistance: :)
[13:40] <svetlanak> exit
[13:41] <AFD> metaspikes: have you ever had similar problems? being unable to connect etc
[13:41] <Motafoca> now i need to figure out why the hell the theme i added didnt work :s
[13:41] <linkux> wo ist der deutsche channel
[13:41] <iceroot> NimeshNeema: e.g. kate will install some kde-basic libs but that is not a problem for your system, just a little more space is needed
[13:41] <iceroot> !de | linkux
[13:41] <evilkid> iceroot : "Copy the zd1211_* files to
[13:41] <evilkid> /lib/firmware/zd1211" ^^ ty... found in readme ...
[13:41] <almoxarife> NimeshNeema: well, if you are gnome and you install kate, kate is not gonna work all that well
[13:41] <metaspikes> AFD, nope
[13:41] <iceroot> evilkid: great
[13:41] <iceroot> almoxarife: NimeshNeema of course kate is working well on gnome
[13:41] <AFD> metaspikes: and do you know if bluez is the package installed with Ubuntu/gnome as default?
[13:42] <metaspikes> AFD, nope
[13:42] <NimeshNeema> almoxarife: thanks. i was doubtful about that bit
[13:42] <AFD> metaspikes: ok, thanks for the help
[13:42] <NimeshNeema> iceroot: will give a try
[13:43] <Resistance> Motafoca:  edit /etc/default/grub as root/sudo, find GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" and remove "splash" from the line, then sudo update-grub2
[13:43] <Resistance> Motafoca:  if you want to see kernel stuffs too, remove "quiet" from that line too
[13:43] <Resistance> leaving it empty
[13:43] <Resistance> (it'll flood your terminal screen, but it gives you the standard linux boot stuff you'd see in RedHat among other things
[13:44] <Motafoca> Resistance: ty
[13:44] <Resistance> Motafoca:  you can also disable the semi-nice version of the GRUB boot screen, there's basics of grub2 here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[13:45] <Resistance> but i'm not sure how valid uncommenting #GRUB_TERMINAL=console would be
[13:45] <metaspikes> Motafoca: you could also ' sudo dmesg ' to get the kernel log. also sudo cat /var/log/messages
[13:45] <Motafoca> metaspikes: thanks :)
[13:45] <Resistance> metaspikes:  i think his issue is he wants GRUB with the purple background gone
[13:45] <Mandingo> hi to all
[13:45] <Motafoca> its so easy in gentoo, in ubuntu hard as hell :)
[13:45] <Mandingo> hi i spain
[13:46] <Mandingo> open the mouth
[13:46] <metaspikes> dmesg | grep <something>  - if your looking for <somethin> in paritular or  sudo cat /var/log/messages | grep <something> likewise
[13:46] <almoxarife> the purple does not completely disappear, plymouth?
[13:46] <iceroot> Mandingo: you have a support question?
[13:46] <Mandingo> hard is my cock
[13:46] <Mandingo> much harder than ubuntu
[13:46] <iceroot> !ops | Mandingo
[13:46] <NimeshNeema> !ops
[13:46] <Mandingo> even harder than stone
[13:46] <crankyadmin> Mandingo:  ಠ▃ಠ
[13:47] <Mandingo> crankyadmin what's the matter?
[13:47] <crankyadmin> Mandingo: I opened my mouth...
[13:47] <Mandingo> you're teaching your grandmother how to suck eggs?
[13:48] <theadmin> Thanks Tm_T
[13:49] <almoxarife> fun is over, back in the salt mine, now!
[13:49]  * coba_iz_coda loves hypnotoad.
[13:49] <EuroNerd> Would some one mind helping me figure out with local VM networking? I'm trying to set up vsftpd in VirtualBox (host and guest are both Ubuntu).
[13:49] <crankyadmin> EuroNerd, whats up/
[13:49] <Resistance> EuroNerd:  do you need it to have its own connection interface with an IP?
[13:49] <theadmin> coba_iz_coda: This is offtopic here, please go to #--- ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD
[13:49] <theadmin> coba_iz_coda: But seriously, please visit #ubuntu-offtopic for offtopic discussion
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> EuroNerd  for a start, the network type must be set to bridged
[13:50] <EuroNerd> Resistance, if you mean an outside connection to the wider internet, then no, not right now.
[13:50] <coba_iz_coda> theadmin sorry
[13:50] <Resistance> EuroNerd:  so an internal IP that you can access from the host machine
[13:50] <EuroNerd> MonkeyDust, where should I set that up?
[13:51] <Resistance> EuroNerd:  i.e. 10.0.0.65 for instance
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> EuroNerd  in the settings, before you launch the virtual OS
[13:51] <EuroNerd> Resistance, correct. I think it's 10.0.2.15, by looking into Network Tools in guest.
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> EuroNerd  click Network and there choose Attached to
[13:52] <EuroNerd> MonkeyDust, I'm pretty sure VirtualBox has already set up a bridge when creating the VM. I can access the internet from within the VM.
[13:52] <EuroNerd> hmmm... just a second
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> EuroNerd  with bridged, your VM gets an ip address in the same range as your host
[13:54] <asdman> is there an online package repo for armel packages somewhere?
[13:54] <iceroot> asdman: same place as the i386 and amd64 repos
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> asdman  armel seems not to be in the repos, maybe a PPA
[13:54] <iceroot> asdman: also see packages.ubuntu.com
[13:55] <MonkeyDust> ok, armel is in the repos, i was too quic
[13:55] <asdman> iceroot: specifically im trying to find the packages needed for LAMP, but for example theres nothing undere apache2
[13:56] <iceroot> !info apache2
[13:56] <asdman> only amd64 and i386
[13:56] <Humbedooh> !lamp
[13:56] <iceroot> asdman: hm you are right
[13:57] <iceroot> asdman: i though there was also the armel-repo up and running
[13:57] <EuroNerd> MonkeyDust, OK, I've changed the connection type, you were right.  But what next?
[13:58] <asdman> im currently not capable of getting packages with apt, because the internet on my device is currently not operational, but its gotten packages from somewhere before...
[13:58] <iceroot> asdman: http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/ maybe get the source-package and rebuild it for armel
[13:58] <subterfuge_> If using 11.10 doing a lot of VM work using Oracle VirtualBox would I gain anything by having an extra GPU installed in my next system and trying to get GPGPU up and running?
[13:59] <EuroNerd> subterfuge_, what for, specifically?
[13:59] <iceroot> asdman: as it seems there is no official armel repo up
[13:59] <asdman> iceroot thats going to be very painful, idk if therescompilation tools on it but i guess i can try, also its using 11.04 and im not going to try upgrading to the latest because itll probably preak stuff like crazy
[14:00] <iceroot> asdman: at least "dpkg-buildüackage" should be installed by default
[14:00] <EuroNerd> subterfuge_, personally I doubt a VM guest can access the host GPU for GPGPU purposes. There's only basic 3d support, and experimental at that.
[14:00] <subterfuge_> EuroNerd my knowledge base on GPGPU is low but I have been trying to do my homework.  My goal is fast smother VM performance
[14:00] <MonkeyDust> EuroNerd  is this link useful? http://www.wikihow.com/Setup-vsftpd-FTP-on-Ubuntu-Linux
[14:00] <iceroot> asdman: but i guess there is a better solution then building everything from the source-packages
[14:00] <asdman> iceroot its actually xubuntu btw
[14:00] <asdman> hmm...im going to check if theres anything on packages.debina.org
[14:01] <iceroot> asdman: that should not make a difference in that case
[14:01] <asdman> *debian
[14:02] <asdman> iceroot:packages.debian.org has apache2 will it break stuff since its for a different distro?
[14:02] <EuroNerd> MonkeyDust, I think I've got vsftpd working already, now I just don't know how to connect to it from host with, say, FileZilla.
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> EuroNerd  im not familiar with filezilla, maybe someone else is
[14:03] <EuroNerd> subterfuge_, I don't think VBox uses any GPGPU. That graphic card would only be useful for apps running on the host. As for the guest VMs, you'll merely get some basic 3d stuff going, like Aero in Win7 and whatnot.
[14:03] <cconover> I accidentally deleted the php.ini file for PHP-FPM.  I tried removing and reinstalling the package to restore the default file, but no luck.  I removed the /etc/php5/fpm directory for the same reason, but no luck.  Any tips?
[14:04] <subterfuge_> EuroNerd, Thanks for the info, so there 'to the best of your knowledge' isn't a way for normal everyday processes to be directed to the GPU.  i.e. nothing in Ubuntu that would pass overflow to a GPU regardless of where it cam from or a way to white list programs to use the GPU
[14:05] <EuroNerd> MonkeyDust, I think FileZilla is pretty straightforward, you just type in the IP, user and pwd for the FTP.  I'm just not sure the networking works right.
[14:06] <ivanbajr_> Bom dia. Faz um bom tempo que estou procurando uma solução em como alterar o plano de fundo das pastas com o ubuntu 11.10
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> !pt| ivanbajr_
[14:06] <ivanbajr_> Alguém pode ajudar?
[14:06] <ivanbajr_> ok
[14:07] <PoNuts> Is there any way to run a privat cloud.. not ubuntu one.. there I own the files?
[14:07] <EuroNerd> subterfuge_, regardless of Ubuntu, even in Windows you need apps programmed specifically to use GPU for general computations (GPGPGU). Neither OS is capable of "redirecting" arbitrary processes to GPU, just because it feels like it.
[14:07] <MonkeyDust> PoNuts  if you have a remote PC, yes
[14:07] <jnsl_> in terminal, im looking at list of files with long names.. Can i open the file containing the number: "550" in some cleaver way? Instead of starting to type the files name and tab
[14:08] <asdman> iceman : attempting to install...
[14:08] <subterfuge_> EuroNerd, Thank you for taking the time to clear this up, a few hours of reading and I had missed this point.  Again thank you have a great day.
[14:08] <PoNuts> MonkeyDust aha.. I was thinking of the famaly and a "dyndns" adress
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> PoNuts  there's this, moment
[14:10] <sudipta> my new ipod touch is not recognized by ubuntu 11.10. Whenever i try to mount it...cpu usage goes to 100% and that's all. Any help?
[14:10] <PoNuts> Intresting.
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> PoNuts  http://www.ramhost.us/
[14:11] <almoxarife> EuroNerd: if you want the added bonus of allowing the users of that ftp to have access to them files locally (their end) install gigolo on the ubuntu ends
[14:11] <iceroot> !ipod | sudipta
[14:11] <PoNuts> Hmm I was more to a host at home..
[14:11] <cconover> I accidentally deleted the php.ini file for PHP-FPM.  I tried removing and reinstalling the package to restore the default file, but no luck.  I removed the /etc/php5/fpm directory for the same reason, but no luck.  Any tips?
[14:11] <finish06> what is the following reponse code mean: tracker gave html response code 0
[14:12] <MonkeyDust> PoNuts  then you need a remote PC
[14:12] <almoxarife> EuroNerd: if you want the added bonus of allowing the users of that ftp to have access to them files locally (their end) install gigolo on the ubuntu ends, like in a folder on their  ~/gvfs
[14:12] <PoNuts> like the eucalyptus
[14:13] <EuroNerd> almoxarife, right now I'm the only user.  I'm just setting up a web server in a local VM to play with web programming. The first thing I need is transferring files to and from the server - hence FTP. And I can't even get the FTP to work, so I'm really afraid what will happen with more serious stuff. ;)
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> !info eucalyptus
[14:13] <almoxarife> EuroNerd: the vm is ubuntu?
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> !info eucalyptus-cloud
[14:13] <PoNuts> !info eucalyptus-cloud
[14:13] <EuroNerd> almoxarife, both the host and the guest are Ubuntu.
[14:13] <finish06> EuroNerd, you will be fine euronerd.   some of the hardest things to set up are the easiest because you suspect it to be easy and when it isn't.... that is bad
[14:14] <almoxarife> EuroNerd: what package did you use for the ftpd?
[14:15] <EuroNerd> almoxarife, vsftpd
[14:15] <scalpel> hmm my new employer is asking me for a htpasswd fragment which i think is just a md5 encrypted version of my password. does this just mean that they will be able to set up my password for my work account without actually knowing my true password?
[14:15] <almoxarife> EuroNerd: do you need it to be a complicated ftpd? security issues?
[14:16] <EuroNerd> absolutely not
[14:16] <PoNuts> what about those who attacks (name loggins) on port 22 from asia mostly
[14:16] <almoxarife> EuroNerd: I set one up real lean, it works, let me see what package I used, and lean meaning no conf crap to work out
[14:17]  * tnk1 is back.
[14:17] <SachinDey> how do i use the desktop cube plugin? I have enabled it and also pressed control+alt+up/down/right/left but it doesnt work
[14:19] <EuroNerd> almoxarife, I'm not even sure it's a vsftpd config problem. Maybe sth with networking.
[14:19] <greenit> hi, i have a problem: i have 2 harddisks and i have installed windows and linux on the second (sdb)... however, ubuntu only recognizes the former installed windows on the first drive (sda)... how can i tell grub that it shall start windows from sdb and not sda?
[14:22] <greenit> how can i tell grub2 that it shall start the windows from sdb instead of sda?
[14:22] <asdman> is ther  a command for downloading a package and all its required packages to a folder?
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> asdman  http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[14:23] <asdman> Monkeydust, that is not get every single one, one by one
[14:24] <almoxarife> EuroNerd: the issues then are with filezilla?
[14:24] <EuroNerd> what's the simples command to check ubuntu's own network address?
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> ifconfig
[14:24] <EuroNerd> almoxarife, I'm not sure FileZilla is the problem, but indeed I'm using it to try to connect to that FTP
[14:25] <EuroNerd> MonkeyDust, thx
[14:25] <almoxarife> EuroNerd: the ubuntu-vm is not firewalled?
[14:25] <mang0> !bot > mang0
[14:26] <mikey2000c>  FREE IPHONE 4S! http://goo.gl/pl54K
[14:26] <jandro> I'm doing a test trying out connecting to my home apache server through SSH adding the parameter -L 5000:localhost:80 to my SSH command, and obviously I can load the welcome apache webpage perfectly just by typing localhost:5000 in my web browser. What puzzled me afterwards is that once I changed to -L 80:localhost:80 to make a test of forwarding all my local web traffic through the home server I expected it would only be able to load the apach
[14:26] <jandro> welcome webpage, but instead it resolves any website I try. Could someone explain me what's going on here? Is my server acting as a DNS server? thanks
[14:26] <EuroNerd> almoxarife, at least _I_ didn't firewall it. ;)
[14:27] <almoxarife> EuroNerd: lets assume its not, from some machine not the vm, can you ping the vm?
[14:27] <EuroNerd> almoxarife, I solved it!
[14:27] <Sidewinder1> EuroNerd, Just so you don't feel alone, I have had problems configuring vsftpd so that selected users from WAN could connect. Not solved yet 'cause we both need to find the time to 'work together.'
[14:27] <almoxarife> EuroNerd: cool
[14:27] <almoxarife> EuroNerd: what was it?
[14:27] <EuroNerd> almoxarife, I was just connecting to the wrong local IP   ;)
[14:27] <EuroNerd> I'm the biggest n00b ever! :)
[14:27] <almoxarife> EuroNerd: subspace to veeger won't work?
[14:28] <EuroNerd> with ifconfig I checked the actual address of that VM and now it works
[14:28] <EuroNerd> almoxarife, I don't even know what that means ;)
[14:28] <MonkeyDust> \o/
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> EuroNerd  it's a star trek joke
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> V'Ger is Voyager
[14:31] <captainfixerpc14> question;  running 11.04, using Firefox, after installing ttf-mscorefonts, i lost all text viewable in firefox pages - have removed fonts - via terminal and package manager also have rebuilt fcache - ideas are welcome - chromium works fine - other browsers as well - please????
[14:32] <Sidewinder1> MonkeyDust, "You are the Creator?"
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> i am, maggot, kneel!
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> :p
[14:33] <Sidewinder1> :D
[14:33] <Boobear> hi
[14:34]  * EuroNerd goes out to get some lunch
[14:34] <ababaab> @ubuttu Hi
[14:34] <pr_> wo ist der deutsche channel
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> !de| pr_
[14:34] <ababaab> @ubottu Hio
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> "dein" soll nicht mit einer Grossbuchstabe sein :p
[14:37] <llutz> MonkeyDust: doch, soll es
[14:38] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:39] <Sidewinder1> Mornin' BluesKaj !
[14:40] <Guest82951> f
[14:40] <Guest82951> need help
[14:40] <mang0> !ask | Guest82951
[14:41] <Guest82951> where is the themen-manager in ubuntu 11.10
[14:41]  * tnk1 is away: Gone away for now
[14:42] <ababaab> help
[14:42] <Sidewinder1> !help
[14:42] <emilio89> what do you need ababaab?
 help what
[14:43] <EvilResistance> !away > tnk1
[14:44] <Guest82951> Ican not become the theme  manager installed in Ubuntu 11.10
[14:44]  * tnk1 is back.
[14:44] <EvilResistance> tnk1:  read your privmsgs
[14:44] <EvilResistance> !away | tnk1
[14:44] <greenit> hi, my grub2 does not list windows7 anymore.... how can i repair this? the command 'sudo update-grub2' does not find win7
[14:44] <BluesKaj> Hi Sidewinder1
[14:45] <llutz> EvilResistance: tnk1 permanently ignores that
[14:45] <EvilResistance> llutz:  then the ops should do something about that.
[14:46] <BluesKaj> greenit,  try , sudo os-prober , then run sudo update grub
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[14:46] <Guest82951> You can  choose from the windows 7 dvd to boot and then the repair  option
[14:47] <Sidewinder1> ^That will bork GRUB.^
[14:47] <Sidewinder1> I think..
[14:48] <captainfixerpc14>   running 11.04, using Firefox, after installing ttf-mscorefonts, i lost all text viewable in firefox pages - have removed fonts - via terminal and package manager also have rebuilt fcache - ideas are welcome - chromium works fine - other browsers as well - could somebody please tell me how to reset so pango can see the fonts as they should be, please????
[14:48] <BluesKaj> Sidewinder1, if he runs the repair from windows it do more than bork grub
[14:48] <Guest82951>  <greenit> or take the super grub disk:
[14:48] <Guest82951> here www.supergrubdisk.org
[14:48] <BluesKaj> will do more
[14:49] <greenit> Guest82951, i have tried this before, but it doesn't recognize my windows... probably the boot-option was located in the 100mb-sized partition from the other harddisk i deleted today... is this possible?
[14:49] <Sidewinder1> BluesKaj, That's what I thought; maybe I should've used the 'danger', factiod. ;-)
[14:49] <BluesKaj> yup
[14:50] <BluesKaj> greenit, did you try  sudo os-prober ?
[14:50] <rypervenche> BluesKaj: Try moving your .Mozilla folder to a different place then restarting firefox
[14:51] <greenit> BluesKaj, yes, didn't help
[14:51] <rypervenche> BluesKaj: Sorry, ~/.mozilla folder
[14:51] <Sidewinder1> BluesKaj, If I'm correct, the "fix-MBR", command "should only kill GRUB, not the rest?..
[14:51] <rypervenche> oops, wrong person
[14:51] <BluesKaj> rypervenche, I think you meant that for captainfixerpc14
[14:51] <Guest82951> Ausgangssprache: Englisch
[14:51] <Guest82951> Geben Sie Text oder eine Website-Adresse ein oder lassen Sie ein Dokument übersetzen.
[14:51] <Guest82951> Abbrechen
[14:51] <Guest82951> Übersetzung von Deutsch nach Englisch
[14:51] <Guest82951> Englisch
[14:51] <Guest82951> Deutsch
[14:51] <FloodBot1> Guest82951: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:52] <Guest82951> or call the menu.lst with root right on the  boat there are options
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[14:52] <Guest82951> or call  the menu.lst with root right on the boat  there are option
[14:53] <BluesKaj> Sidewinder1, inwindows XP Sidewinder1, but Vista and W7 use a different method to fix the mbr and it's not a s straightforward afaik
[14:53] <Guest82951> or use patendmagic linux
[14:54] <BluesKaj> Guest82951, menu.lst doesn't exist in grub2
[14:54] <Sidewinder1> BluesKaj, Yea, am familiar with XP, not so (never), Vista, 7.
[14:55] <samba35> rc.freenode.net
[14:56] <rypervenche> captainfixerpc14: Try moving your ~/.mozilla to a different location then starting Firefox.
[14:57] <w__> anyone using ubuntu 12.04
[14:57] <w__> ?
[14:57] <samba35> i have installed not not test
[14:57] <BluesKaj> w__, yes , but you should ask in #ubuntu+1 , if you have any questions
[14:59] <w__> thanks BluesKaj
[15:00] <w__> it seems that there is no one there at the #ubuntu+1
[15:01] <w__> i can't open any chat window on empathy
[15:01] <captainfixerpc14> rypervenche, Thanks I just tried that and while it did change to what appears to be a new install - any text on the page - or typed into google search does not show up - when run through terminal - it still reports the pango warning
[15:01] <iceroot> w__: #ubuntu+1 for 12.04
[15:01] <BluesKaj> w__, sorry I don't use empathy
[15:02] <w__> icerrot i know im using 12.04
[15:02] <EvilResistance> w__:  you have to get help in #ubuntu+1
[15:03] <EvilResistance> w__:  #ubuntu is only for the stable and supported releases, not the currently-in-development release
[15:03] <w__> as i said no one is responding
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> then wait
[15:03] <BluesKaj> w__, also you need to have patience ..an immediate answer is unlikely
[15:03] <w__> thanks
[15:04] <Sidewinder1> w__, Perhaps there is a forum for 12.04 at http://ubuntuforums.org/
[15:05] <Sidewinder1> w__Here 'ya go: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=412
[15:05] <rypervenche> captainfixerpc14: What is the exact error message?
[15:06] <rypervenche> captainfixerpc14: You may have removed libpango
[15:06] <EvilResistance> Sidewinder1:  he left you know
[15:06] <Sidewinder1> EvilResistance, Thanks, hadn't noticed; trying to do too many things at once. :-(
[15:08] <hektik-> how is unity
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> fine how are you
[15:10] <io> hektik-, did you have a question?
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> hektik-: not bad, not great, just like any thing you can name in any OS :)
[15:11] <hektik-> windows 7 is great
[15:12] <hektik-> period
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> hektik-: its pretty, that's pretty much it
[15:15] <sskalnik> What's the best way to test out a serial port in ubuntu?
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> sskalnik: test in what way? What is connected to it?
[15:16] <BussDriver> hektik-: interesting factoid.. in windows, I can't drive two external monitors and keep my laptop screen on.. but in ubuntu that works fine :)
[15:16] <ubuntu> to each their on with operating systems...
[15:17] <sskalnik> ActionParsnip:  I have two ports on the same box connected via null modem. I can also use a loopback connector on each, but right now i am trying to send data from one port to the other over the null modem
[15:17] <ubuntu> this is one fight that will literally go on for eternity
[15:17] <hektik-> bussdriver: chances are, you are an idiot and cant figure out how to do it in windows
[15:17] <meerkats> The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources. how do I install those packages?
[15:17] <sskalnik> hektik-:  are you here to ask a question about ubuntu, or are you here to troll?
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: yes because people seem to care what OS people use and think they should use the same a lot.
[15:17] <BussDriver> hektik-: Wow, nice try, but it's completely unsupported by the video card driver.
[15:17] <hektik-> ubuntu: yes, but it wold be losing for ubuntu
[15:18] <ubuntu> hektik-: are you looking for help or interested in ubuntu in some way? can we help you?
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  sudo apt-get update
[15:18] <captainfixerpc14> rypervenche, firefox:17619: PANGO WARNING  failed to create cairo scaled font, expect ugly output - offending font is courier new 5.25, it goes on to display several font face and scaled font face out of mem - I am certain I messed up the fonts when adding ttf core - but have done all to rebuild after extensive reading -
[15:18] <hektik-> yes, i asked about unity
[15:18] <Travis-42> How do I resize windows in Ubuntu 11.10 with Unity.  For example, with LibreOffice Writer, I cannot resize the window by putting my mouse on the edge of the window.
[15:18] <io> !unity > hektik-
[15:18] <ubuntu> hektik-: to answer your original question, unity is fine thank you, have you any further questions?
[15:18] <io> hektik-,  what else other than the information just given to you do you want to know? if you ask a question, then maybe we can help
[15:19] <meerkats> ActionParsnip, as soon as the updater finishes the updating of the other packages
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> Travis-42: you need to restore the window first, then you can resize it, if it it maximized I don't think it can be resized
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: no worries
[15:19] <hektik-> ubuntu: do you like unity? thanks for the attention you have placed upon me. makes me feel flattered
[15:19] <meerkats> ActionParsnip, is vlc's ppa
[15:19] <ubuntu> hektik-: no problem at all, and no, anything else?
[15:19] <hektik-> ubuntu: which do you prefer?
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: can you give the output of the command please, once you can
[15:19] <Travis-42> ActionParsnip, doesn't seem to be maximized, it's only taking up half the screen. but hitting the maximize button brought back the ability to resize. same for chrome and many other windows. weird. thanks.
[15:20] <ubuntu> hektik-: which out of what set?
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> Travis-42: unity/compiz is a weird beast
[15:20] <hektik-> ubuntu: if i'm tight on hdd space, how much space would you allocate minimum for a fresh ubuntu install?
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> hektik-: 7Gb will be plenty, a bit tight but sufficient
[15:21] <ubuntu> hektik-: i'm afraid i've no idea, that's probably something for google... i do know a minimum debian install is around 700 megs
[15:21] <pank> how to mount a pendrive by using terminal ?
[15:21] <hektik-> oh okay, i figured 20gig
[15:21] <hektik-> but thats good to know
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> hektik-: this isn't windows
[15:21] <hektik-> lol
[15:21] <io> hektik-, 15 GB is recomended, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> hektik-: win7 + office productivity + decent CD burining + DVD playback software = ¬20Gb
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> hektik-: ubuntu gives you all that in about 5Gb
[15:22] <mneptok> hektik-: also, you're not taking swap space (if necessary) into account. that will require some HD space also.
[15:22] <io> !mount > pank
[15:22] <sskalnik> pank:  mount /dev/sda<whateverthedriveis> /<whereveryouwanttomountit>
[15:22] <BussDriver> are you kidding? I'd love if windows 7 would only take 20gb.  Usually after getting all the updates and service pack 1 you're looking at 40gb.
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> pank: it may already be mounted, if you run:  mount    do you see the device
[15:22] <ubuntu> hektik-: also remember that ubuntu gives you lots of default packages by default to play with, you can remove them or go with a minimum install if you don't want to choose what programs you install yourself
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> BussDriver: damn
[15:22] <BussDriver> All because of that huge winsxs folder.
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> hektik-  i think you want to read this http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/
[15:23] <hektik-> lol
[15:23] <hektik-> linux is not better
[15:23] <hektik-> but okay
[15:23] <mneptok> ubuntu: some packages may not be able to be removed as the -desktop package depends on them.
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> hektik-: it is in some situations
[15:23] <BussDriver> It's nearly impossible to fit a decent windows 7 install on the original raptor 36gb - I should know, that's still one of my main desktops :\
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> hektik-: and other OSes excel in other places
[15:23] <pank> io, how to mount ?
[15:23] <GeForce88> I'm using ubuntu 11.10 with a geforce 8800 gts 512 + gnome desktop. i can'tget desktop efects to enable. i'm using repo drivers 173.
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> !mount ~ pank
[15:23] <m_W> hi, any suggestions for best twitter widget on ubuntu?
[15:23] <mneptok> the discussion of "which OS is better" is suited to #ubuntu-oftopic, not this channel.
[15:23] <io> pank, see the link given to you in private message from ubottu. or sskalnik also suggested --> mount /dev/sda<whateverthedriveis> /<whereveryouwanttomountit>
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> m_W: there is no single best app for a situation
[15:24] <emilio89> i like windows 7 and debian
[15:24] <m_W> ActionParsnip, just one that people have found the really like?
[15:24] <pank> sskalnik, how to know "whateverthedriveis" ?
[15:24] <BussDriver> what's the point of arguing whether one OS is better than another in some ill-defined 'all encompassing' way?  Ubuntu is great for my work.. but kinda sucks for playing the latest and greatest games on steam.  However, windows kinda sucks for, oh I don't know, actually having a decent built-in terminal?
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> m_W: doesn't make it best though, does it
[15:24] <hektik-> u guys play any games on linux?
[15:24] <m_W> ActionParsnip, no it doesn't, you're right
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> mahjong
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> m_W: http://sneerwell.blogspot.com/2009/09/top-8-twitter-clients-for-ubuntu-linux.html
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> m_W: polly gets around too
[15:25] <m_W> ActionParsnip, thanks
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> GeForce88: try the 280 driver
[15:25] <pank> thanks
[15:25] <mneptok> m_W: try Gwibber
[15:25] <marcin_> u
[15:26] <m_W> mneptok, I will, thanks
[15:26] <marcin_> what ?
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> GeForce88: I've ran my 6150LE on the 295 driver and it ran
[15:26] <marcin_> good
[15:26] <GeForce88> ActionParsnip,  can i simply enable another drivers with out uninstalling? or do i uninstall first?
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> GeForce88: I suggest you remove the other one first
[15:27] <remoteCTRL> as far as i recall there once was a command to send a user a message...? like on the commandline?
[15:27] <GeForce88> ActionParsnip,  can you refrsh my memory with that command ?
[15:28] <GeForce88> ActionParsnip, in the 'additional drivers' dialog, i do not have 295. i have 173,173-update,"current version" and version current-updates
[15:28] <io> remoteCTRL, to a user on the same system, or IRC?
[15:29] <RaTTuS|BIG> remoteCTRL - /msg ircname
[15:29] <GeForce88> oh duh, 295 IS the current...
[15:29] <remoteCTRL> io: on linux
[15:29] <io> remoteCTRL, '$ man write'
[15:29] <GeForce88> remoteCTRL, /dcc chat <username> works too
[15:29] <remoteCTRL> RaTTuS|BIG: ermm... thanks but i meant in ubuntu...
[15:30] <io> GeForce88, that's for IRC though
[15:30] <remoteCTRL> GeForce88: i know
[15:30] <remoteCTRL> hehehe
[15:30] <io> remoteCTRL, oh there's '$ man talk' too!
[15:30] <io> remoteCTRL, one is for a one-off message and the other is for more of a 'chat', the man pages will explain
[15:30] <remoteCTRL> io: genious, tanks! right what i was looking for!
[15:31] <io> remoteCTRL, :)
[15:32] <Sidewinder1> io, ~$ man talk
[15:32] <Sidewinder1> No manual entry for talk
[15:32] <Sidewinder1> hmm..
[15:32] <prizm> On my screen, it will occasionally flicker when using SDL apps
[15:32] <Sidewinder1> Maybe I need to install it; 10.04, here.
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> GeForce88: just deactivate the driver then install nvidia-current
[15:33] <prizm> in windowed mode
[15:34] <io> !info netkit-ntalk | Sidewinder1
[15:34] <io> depreciated it seems, Sidewinder1. I'm not sure how old it is or when it was last updated, I just remember using it
[15:34] <Sidewinder1> io, Yea, I found ti in my repos, along with talkd.. Thanx!
[15:35] <Sidewinder1> it, even.
[15:35] <gulzar> I am using xxfwm4 with KDE. Is there any problem with it? How to enable composiiting with it?
[15:35] <batlock> 10.04, is there any reason that a live cd won't boot because of 'failed to mount '/dev/sda1' : invalid argument, The device /dev/sda1 doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS
[15:36] <batlock> as of right now there's nothing on /dev/sda1 at all'
[15:36] <GeForce88> live cd's don't like 'new' hard drives
[15:36] <batlock> heh, new
[15:36] <batlock> this pos is anything but
[15:37] <batlock> yea it's just taking forever to load the live env
[15:37] <remoteCTRL> io: man contained the "bingo" link: "wall" is the weapon of choice! write only writes to tty and wall writes to /dev/ps1
[15:37] <io> remoteCTRL, nice
[15:37] <batlock> it finally gave me a mouse, it's a dell gx 150
[15:38] <remoteCTRL> io: erm... /dev/pts/1 i meant
[15:38] <io> remoteCTRL, glad you found what you were looking for :)
[15:38] <remoteCTRL> io: me too, thanks for the hint! :)
[15:38] <meerkats> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/rNMaZhTT
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 09589874801DF724
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: if you add the ppa using:  add-apt-repositpry    it sorts that out for yo
[15:40] <batlock> holy slowness
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> *add-apt-repository
[15:40] <meerkats> imported, ActionParsnip
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: simples
[15:42] <Sidewinder1> batlock, Booting any LiveCD is sloowwww.
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> Sidewinder1: CDs are slow, try live USB (if your BIOS can boot it) its a tonne faster
[15:42] <gulzar> I am using xfwm4 with KDE.  How to enable composiiting with it?
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> I don't think xfwm4 can do compositing
[15:44] <meerkats> thx ActionParsnip
[15:44] <batlock> Sidewinder1, no, this is like waiting for molasses in january, but that january is in northern alberta canada, and it's -60 F
[15:44] <gulzar> ActionParsnip: it can.... ok Then what to use with KDE other than compiz and kwin for basic compositing?
[15:45] <Sidewinder1> ActionParsnip, Yes, I was aware, thanks; unfortunately, this machine (my main one) won't boot to USB (circa about 2002).. The other one, a little newer will, but doesn't have the resources for unity. (Side begins to save his pennys). :D
[15:45] <batlock> like, this entire time i've been trying to setup an installation, it's finally at 5%
[15:45] <TheRedOctober> Greetings.  I have a remote server that is hanging on SSH in.  The VPN is still working, and _some_ of the services are also responding, but SSH hangs after correct login.  It sits after the "Last Login:" notice. Any ideas how to surmount this?
[15:46] <batlock> Sidewinder1, I have a cd that allows me to boot from USB
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> gulzar: metacity can do it afaik, or you can use emerald but I belive it uses compiz somehow
[15:46] <Sidewinder1> batlock, Interesting..
[15:46] <batlock> Sidewinder1, all you have to do basically is set root=(usb1,msdos1) or soemthing like taht
[15:46] <batlock> once you've detected usb
[15:47] <batlock> lemmie find the name of it.
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> Sidewinder1: shame, there are floppy images on pendrivelinux to then boot usb, most of my systems are from around then and have the same issue :(
[15:47] <batlock> like this dell
[15:47] <batlock> lol
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> TheRedOctober: add to /etc/ssh/sshd_config         UseDNS no      may help
[15:47] <batlock> don't even have 512 ram and it's most likely got blown caps
[15:47]  * Sidewinder1 Sends some of his pennies to ActionParsnip 
[15:48]  * ActionParsnip doesn't need a powerhouse :)
[15:48] <rypervenche> captainfixerpc14: Still there?
[15:48] <Sidewinder1> batlock, Dell Dimension 4550, here.
[15:49] <batlock> heh optiplex
[15:49] <batlock> gx 150
[15:50] <Sidewinder1> Figgered' mine was older. :-(
[15:51] <batlock> Sidewinder1, super grub2 boot disk hybrid 1.99b1  allows you to boot from usb with a little grub hacking
[15:51] <batlock> iso's too
[15:51] <Sidewinder1> I did upgrade RAM to 1 Gig, and upgraded video card, so it's not too bad..
[15:52] <batlock> yea i got stock everything in this guy
[15:52] <batlock> had to remove the addon vidya card cause it was flailing
[15:52] <karthick87> How to change the owner & group of a directory?
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> karthick87  chown
[15:52] <karthick87> for group?
[15:53] <llutz> man chown karthick87 (user:group)
[15:53] <rypervenche> karthick87: sudo chown username:groupname foldername
[15:53] <luca> but i install ubuntu, and then kde, does that make it a kubuntu?
[15:53] <batlock> nop
[15:53] <rypervenche> karthick87: add -R to make it recursive if you like too
[15:54] <luca> can i obtain a kubuntu without reintalling the whole thing?
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> luca: makes it ubuntu with multiple DEs
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> luca: you technically already have kubuntu
[15:55] <luca> what are des?
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> desktop environments
[15:56] <batlock> psychocats usually had good howto's luca http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[15:57] <batlock> just read it all first
[15:57] <batlock> before you jump into it
[15:57] <karthick87> rypervenche: Thank you :D
[15:57] <DrKojiKobashiJr> Hi
[15:57] <pip__> can anyone point me to some decent info regarding network manager, I've got a weirdish problem.  Well I think it's weird...
[15:58] <batlock> heh you know how i said it was at 5%?  wel lnow it's finally at 50
[15:58] <DrKojiKobashiJr> Hi
[15:58] <luca> batlock: i followed a psychocats guide on how to create a partition and move the home folder in it and nearly had to format the hdd. plus now i have it full of odd partition stuff
[15:58] <AkiraTheJapanese> Hi
[15:59] <batlock> luca got a link?
[15:59] <luca> ill find it
[15:59] <batlock> cool
[15:59] <sfsf32> is the pussy that smells of fish or fish smells like pussy?
[15:59] <luca> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[16:00] <Sidewinder1> Thanks Flannel
[16:00] <batlock> actually that looks pretty straight forward
[16:01] <haylo> possibly the same saline microorganisms make you smell as they make the fish smell
[16:01] <AkiraTheDoc> Hi
[16:02] <batlock> all you do is shrink your partition, create one for home, then backup and move the home folder over, mark changes in fstab and reboot and pray
[16:02] <wawrek> Hello, I am using ubuntu 11.10, using Nvidia. I try to set up a dual monitor display, lets say TwinView. The thing is that when I reboot, the display is gone, I have to open nvidia and make it again. Did someone manage to have it working?
[16:02] <luca> batlock: i was lucky that with a live boot i managed to reset the settings
[16:03] <luca> when i restarted after fo..owing the guide it wouldn't boot
[16:03] <luca> and now i dont know why i have my entire hdd full
[16:03] <wawrek> Hello, I am using ubuntu 11.10, using Nvidia. I try to set up a dual monitor display, lets say TwinView. The thing is that when I reboot, the display is gone, I have to open nvidia and make it again. Did someone manage to have it working?
[16:06] <luca> batlock: do you have any ideas?
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> luca  it's easier to backup and fresh install ubuntu
[16:06] <craigbass1976> Anyone in the Wilson NC area?  Someone installed linux on a relative's computer and needs a pair of hands every so often when things REALLY break and ssh is't an option
[16:07] <karthick87> what it mean ? Could not resolve 172.29.34.25: no name for 172.29.34.25
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> karthick87  a host name?
[16:07] <karthick87> MonkeyDust: But the hosts has the hostname
[16:08] <batlock> 172.29.x.x is a class B private address isn't it?
[16:08] <luca> but i have installed too many services, and now finally i have file sharing set up
[16:08] <luca> it took hours
[16:09] <batlock> luca, i have no clue as to what happened besides possibly something that could have happened from not copy pasting the instructions he said not to type out
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> luca  technically you can backup and reinstall all those services, but, as you say, it takes hours and should be done overnight
[16:10] <Sidewinder1> batlock, I'm a big fan of "copy-paste." :D
[16:10] <batlock> lol
[16:10] <sskalnik> How do I determine the default gateway assigned by dhcp?
[16:11] <batlock> traceroute out and see where it hops
[16:11] <batlock> quickest answer i can figure
[16:11] <batlock> or route print
[16:11] <sskalnik> batlock:  First four hops are ****
[16:12] <batlock> print your routing table
[16:12] <llutz> sskalnik: route -n or "ip n s"
[16:12] <BluesKaj> sskalnik, ifconfig
[16:12] <mneptok> BluesKaj: ifconfig does not return route info
[16:12] <batlock> netstat -rn
[16:13] <sskalnik> ah, "route" did it
[16:13] <sskalnik> thanks, all
[16:13] <BluesKaj> oh gateway , oops :)
[16:15]  * BluesKaj edits his networking textfiles
[16:16]  * Sidewinder1 Edits BluesKaj 
[16:16] <Sidewinder1> :D
[16:18] <Sharpshooter> can I change the Audacious theme to winamp themes?
[16:19] <BluesKaj> Sidewinder1, I had the ifconfig command under the wrong heading, but thanks to the correction trolls my mistake was pcked up :)
[16:19] <chicongoly> hi
[16:19] <chicongoly> how r y
[16:19] <Sidewinder1> Ok, since it's rather quiet, I have 5 ext. HDDs intermittently when I mount them, sometimes two instances of Nautilus open. Doesn't seem to be any rhyme nor reason. Not a big deal, I was just curious if any of you experience this.
[16:19] <chicongoly> u
[16:19] <mneptok> BluesKaj: "trolls?"
[16:20] <chicongoly> ubuntu 11.10 is gd no
[16:20] <Sharpshooter> can I change the Audacious theme to winamp themes?
[16:20] <mneptok> Sidewinder1: are there multiple partitions on these external devices? if so, Nautilus will open a window for each partition it can read.
[16:20] <Sharpshooter> Sidewinder1, can I change Audacious themes to winamp skins ?
[16:20] <BluesKaj> mneptok, yeahn rather than helping the subject first , you guys like to correct other ppls mistakes first
[16:21] <batlock> Sidewinder1, yea, nautilus will auto open anything it automounts
[16:21] <mneptok> BluesKaj: name-calling is hardly the answer.
[16:21] <cyberjorge> hi, I know it has nothing to do with ubuntu but is pop3 also use milter that can cause delay in delivery of large files?
[16:21] <Sidewinder1> mneptok, Negative, (well on one that I rarely use) all the rest are a single ext3 partition
[16:21] <supuers> mneptok whats your issue
[16:22] <mneptok> Sidewinder1: maybe run an fsck on those partitions? i tend toward paranoia as regards filesystem integrity.
[16:22] <BluesKaj> mneptok, I've been called worse :)
[16:22] <mneptok> BluesKaj: well, keep it to yourself in this channel, please.
[16:22] <Sidewinder1> mneptok, I guess I should just be thankful that only two instances of Nautilus open.
[16:23] <Sidewinder1> mneptok, And again, this only happens once in a while and is not restricted to a particular drive.
[16:23] <Bennie> hello
[16:23] <supuers> how many partitions do you have?
[16:23] <BluesKaj> mneptok, same goes for you , if I make a mistake perhaps a friendly pm would be in order then I would correct my mistake in the channel myself
[16:24] <mneptok> BluesKaj: i will, one last time, invite you to discuss this in #ubuntu-ops.
[16:24] <mneptok> BluesKaj: you have *severely* tried my patience, and that of other ops. you are walking a tightrope, and i suggest you turn around and head back to the ledge.
[16:25] <BluesKaj> mneptok, nope,  no kangaroo court for me ... too bad about your lack of patience
[16:25] <chicongoly>  /join #backtrack-fr
[16:25] <Cube``> how can i check with commandline which version of ubuntu i have
[16:26] <llutz> Cube``: lsb_release -sc
[16:27] <cyberjorge> oh, I haven't seen that in awhile.
[16:27] <Cube``> llutz: kthx, but why dont i have add-apt-repository with lucid?
[16:27] <batlock> wow it is bad in here, someone makes mention of the word 'trolls' and ops get all huffy puffy??  wat is this, soviet russia?
[16:27] <llutz> Cube``: ask the channel, idk
[16:28] <Cube``> kk
[16:28] <supuers> trying to use vinagre to remote to a win 7 laptop on same network does not seem to be connecting
[16:28] <Cube``> batrick: no, but corporate america (canonical ltd in yo face), the other extreme
[16:29] <andyn> isn't vinagre a vnc client, not a remote desktop one?
[16:29] <bs> how to run windows applications and games on ubuntu
[16:29] <mneptok> !wine > bs
[16:29] <supuers> yes, but should be able to connect to a windows based system
[16:30] <rgilliom> I am new to IRC and new to ubuntu.  I just loaded 11.10 on a Dell Latitude D800 with a high resolution screen 19200X1200 (uncertain of video driver at this time).  The install appears to go perfectly, but when ubuntu loads the desktop is blank with no icons, etc.  Any thoughts on solutions.?
[16:30] <andyn> sure, i just assumed you were not running VNC on the windows end
[16:31] <supuers> reinstall
[16:31] <purpleyuan> May I ask a question about sftp? Can I do that here?
[16:31] <supuers> no only on linux side
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> rgilliom: try unity2D session from logini screen
[16:32] <chicongoly> how install openoffice on backtrack 5
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> purpleyuan: if its on Ubuntu, then yes
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> chicongoly: backtrack isn't supported here
[16:32] <llutz> !backtrack | chicongoly
[16:32] <chicongoly> ok tnx
[16:32] <supuers> dont even try to install open office on backtrack
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> chicongoly: backtrack is a network probing tool, which is why it doesn't come with office productivity
[16:32] <purpleyuan> Ah, cool. So I'm trying to move multiple files within directories in sftp. Is there anyway I can do that easily, or will I have to move them one by one?
[16:33] <chicongoly> hv u website for linux software
[16:33] <supuers> you will tinker with what it was intended for
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> chicongoly: it's not for doing daily stuff, its a network tool
[16:33] <chicongoly> sorry
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> chicongoly: ask in the backtrack channel please
[16:33] <purpleyuan> I've looked online, and apparently you can use a remote command through ssh, but the server I'm using doesn't allow ssh, only sftp.
[16:33] <chicongoly> ok
[16:34] <yogananda> #bizsense
[16:35] <Sharpshooter> Sidewinder1, can I change Audacious themes to winamp skins ?
[16:36] <Sidewinder1> Sharpshooter, I have no idea, sorry. :-(
[16:36] <FrietSok> can some one help
[16:36] <Sharpshooter> Sidewinder1,  :(
[16:37] <KARAG> Hi guys I would like some help with ubuntu 11.10 I have some sound problems
[16:37] <Sidewinder1> Sharpshooter, I use Rythmbox and Juk.
[16:37] <gwestai> !ask | KARAG
[16:37] <mneptok> Sharpshooter: http://www.ubuntudiary.co.cc/2009/05/audacious-winamps-taste-in-ubuntu.html
[16:38] <KARAG> There isnt any sound output ... Thats all...
[16:38] <FrietSok> my sound just quit i change a bit to turn on the sub woofer and the midd speakers , i just restore it but nothing happends ??
[16:38] <Sharpshooter> mneptok, :)
[16:38] <kag_anil> msg NickServ identify ani123]
[16:38] <FrietSok> lol kag
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> kag_anil: may want to change password
[16:38] <mneptok> kag_anil: time to change your nick's password
[16:38] <kag_anil> yups
[16:38] <craigbass1976> Has anyone gotten radicale working?  I can get it started, but don't see where it's logging to find out what's borking when I try to hook a client up to it
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> KARAG: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[16:38] <kag_anil> how to change it
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> FrietSok: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*
[16:39] <mneptok> kag_anil: /msg NickServ help set
[16:39] <FrietSok> msg FrietSok indentify lame234
[16:40] <Sharpshooter> mneptok, I mean is there any way to use the winamp theme (extentions) in audacious ?
[16:40] <mneptok> Sharpshooter: did you read the URL i gave you?
[16:41] <mneptok> Sharpshooter: i don't know how your question cvould be answered more plainly than it is on that page. it tells you how to install and enable Winamp skins in Audacious.
[16:42] <FrietSok> i can,t install kazaa litle how do i need to do it becouse i follow each step google say download kazza.msi open it whit syntic but it ubuntu say nono
[16:42] <kag_anil> mneptok: thanx ...
[16:43] <matheus> ola
[16:43] <KARAG> ERMMM guys the sound thingy Doesnt seem to have a good outpout(it is also in Greek) but it created this i wish it can help if you want i can also translate the output http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=e1c6f10c173bf8828a8e092ce6c2baa6b430710d
[16:43] <Sharpshooter> mneptok, I  did ! when I copy the winamp skins on the themes folder it shows the skin with blank in selection ! I guess it is not supporting the winamp  player skin that i used in windows
[16:44] <Oer> FrietSok, what steps of google ? and a .msi is a windows installer, not for ubuntu.
[16:45] <mneptok> Sharpshooter: try other skins. figure out if it's an issue with a particular skin, or if it's an issue with Audacious and *all* Winamp skins
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> KARAG: sudo apt-get install alsa-utils
[16:45] <Sidewinder1> FrietSok, You may wish to have a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazaa  Why not just use the default torrent client in ubuntu? I believe it's currently Transmission.
[16:45] <edbian> Sidewinder1, kazaa is not a bittorrent client
[16:46] <Sidewinder1> edbian, Didn't it used to be?
[16:46] <edbian> Sidewinder1, I don't think so.  Although it is peer to peer
[16:46] <Sidewinder1> edbian, I just scanned the wiki.. :-(
[16:46] <edbian> Sidewinder1, meh
[16:46] <Sharpshooter> mneptok, I figured that winamp skins are in different formats ! ant Audacious is not supporting any of these themes !
[16:47] <craigbass1976> I need to install openbravo-3 on a remote box.  I'm going to be sitting in front of said box in a couple of hours, but I wanted the download at least to be done before I got there.  Is there some way to fire up a terminal that will be open when I get there?  I can't do it from here, as I'll be on my laptop and that's going with me.
[16:47] <Oer> Sidewinder1, kazaa has a search for music/movie-downloads build-in, not sure the downloads are legal.
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> craigbass1976  you can modify .profile to make a terminal open, when you connect to the remote pc
[16:48] <KARAG> Dude The output is a big nothig
[16:48] <Sidewinder1> edbian, But, just in scanning that wiki, seems like a good thing to stay away from; IMHO.
[16:48] <Sharpshooter> mneptok, winamp skin is xml type and audacious in txt types
[16:48] <edbian> Sidewinder1, It is 99% illegal files from what I remember.
[16:48] <Sidewinder1> Oer, Thanx.
[16:48] <KARAG> Package alsa ultis Has no (something else dont know how to translate it) for installation
[16:48] <edbian> Sidewinder1, kazaa that is (and it's loaded with windows viruses)
[16:48] <craigbass1976> MonkeyDust, I was also just wondering...  Is there a way to log into the GUI?  VNC perhaps...
[16:49] <Sidewinder1> edbian, I was referring to the spyware, malware,... Not that that effects "us.".. ;-)
[16:49] <Sharpshooter> mneptok, can I make custom theme for audacious ?
[16:49] <KARAG> The package alsa-utils is not available, but no mention about it from another package.Package alsa ultis Has no candidate for installation
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> KARAG: should be, its in the repos and should be in a default install
[16:50] <KARAG> What can i do for that? any solution?
[16:50] <vegabond> hi frnds!!! how r u all?
[16:51] <mneptok> Sharpshooter: i do not use Audacious. i have no idea. i went to Google and entered "audacious winamp skin" and found that page i gave you. the web will be more helpful to you than an IRC channel dedicated to a specific Linux distro.
[16:51] <vegabond> i need some help
[16:51] <KARAG> And who doesnt my firend vegabond :)
[16:51] <vegabond> how can use skype in ubuntu 10.10?
[16:51] <KARAG> I do
[16:52] <Sharpshooter> mneptok, is there any official IRC channel for  audacious ?
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> vegabond: go to the skype site and grab the deb for your architecture
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> craigbass1976  cant say about the GUI, but add this to ~/.profile in your remote pc http://paste.ubuntu.com/791852/
[16:52]  * mneptok stares at Sharpshooter 
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> KARAG: try:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get install alsa-utils
[16:52] <mneptok> Sharpshooter: i *do not use* Audacious. are you asking me to go to Google again and type "audacious irc channel" and tell you want i find?
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> mneptok: Sharpshooter: /server irc.atheme.org /join #audacious
[16:54] <Socket-> My dmesg is flooded with: CIFS VFS: strtoUCS: char2uni of 0xffffffeb returned -22
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> mneptok: Sharpshooter: I just joined #audacious here on freenode
[16:54] <Socket-> how do i determin whats causing the character issue
[16:54] <Sidewinder1> mneptok, Was that stares, or glares?
[16:54] <KARAG> The same OUTPUT The package 'alsa-utils' has no installation candidate
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> KARAG: is the OS fully updated though?
[16:55] <KARAG> Yes of course.
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> KARAG: try the oneiric fix here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[16:57] <Sharpshooter> ActionParsnip, thankx
[16:59] <KARAG> Nothing Still No sound....
[16:59] <hsyed> Anyone able to help me with a fakeraid (motherboard based nvidia in raid 5) based installation. The xubuntu 11 installer doesn't seem to be installing grub correctly. I have told the installer to install the mbr on "/dev/mapper/nvidiaxxxx" (the device and not a partition). When I reboot I just get a blinking cursor (instead of insert install media and press any key to continue). What do I need
[16:59] <hsyed> to do ?
[17:00] <blognewb> hi guyys im trying to fully migrate to ubuntu. i use notepad++ for coding php, js etc.. what do you suggest i migrate to aside from vim? I am looking at Aptana, it looks like an open-source dreamweaver. What do yhou think? I'm looking for something that has a short learning curve and would not reduce productivity while learning the editor
[17:01] <hsyed> Don't bother with vim unless you want to commit to coding in a shell =D
[17:01] <mang0> blognewb: Eclipse is supposed to be good, but I suppose that's aptana really :P
[17:01] <blognewb> mang0 yeah..
[17:01] <mang0> I write my code in gedit and then run it from terminal, but that's just Python
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> KARAG: not sure, you need the alsa-utils app, try running:  alsamixer      and make sure all levels are cranked and unmuted
[17:01] <Sharpshooter> blognewb, bluefish
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> blognewb: gedit has syntax highlighting
[17:02] <blognewb> ActionParsnip i tried gedit :D
[17:02] <Sharpshooter> blognewb, Try bluefish
[17:02] <blognewb> ActionParsnip would you characterize aptana as an ide
[17:03] <blognewb> Sharpshooter is it a relatively new getting popular editor
[17:03] <hsyed> So no one arround has done a 11 install on a fakeraid machine ? :(
[17:03] <ubuntu_> h
[17:03] <blognewb> Hey guys is this true: "stay away from java-based IDEs. They will make development a nightmare."
[17:04] <HackNewton> blognewb, well no and yes both
[17:04] <hsyed> for a portable C++/C project yes
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> blognewb: not sure, its not in the repos..
[17:05] <KARAG> Hey i am suspecting something... Can someone Tell me how I can see my available sources for apps at the software Center of ubuntu?
[17:05] <Sharpshooter> blognewb, Its a popular editor ! and light
[17:05] <KARAG> I am using oneiric 11.10
[17:05] <hsyed> @blognewb for a multi-million line project in most languages yes :D You can't fight complexity with ide tools, and ide's slow down. Not using an ide forces you to be embrace rigid coding practises, which is betteri n the long run  :D
[17:06] <grendal-prime> has anyone ever had a mounted drive's used space get reported as being on the /root partition?
[17:07] <Sidewinder1> grendal-prime, Is it an external HDD?
[17:08] <blognewb> hsyed "java IDEs slow down development, they typically have a typing lag and whenever you try to rely on autocomplete or docblock popups, it takes forever"
[17:08] <grendal-prime> like say you have a root partition that is 100 gigs..and  it is at 50% capacity, then the mounted drive has say 30 gigs on it all of the sudden the root drive is reporting at 80%  a reboot takes it back to normal
[17:08] <BangBusRUs> Hi I need some help configuaring my 160gb hdd to install ubuntu on to, What size and format should I set up for ubuntu install
[17:08] <craigbass1976> MonkeyDust, ok...  Here's what I ended up doing.  I didn't see your reply until just now.   I set up x11vnc on the remote box, then ssh -XC remotebox, then vncviewer localhbost:0 and got the process going.  Quitting vnc I believe will just leave things running without me seeign them from here.  I'm going to make my kiddo lunch, then head over.  Thanks
[17:08] <grendal-prime> ya Sidewinder1 its an external drive
[17:08] <grendal-prime> well they are vm drives but the os sees them as external hardware.
[17:09] <BangBusRUs> Please somebody help me I really like the new ubuntu version
[17:09] <Sidewinder1> grendal-prime, I have 5 ext. HDDs, I had to sudo chown each one, in order to write to it.
[17:09] <hsyed> blognewb that is correct java and c# ide's suck really. the jvm or clr are not designed to index that much information. if you can't get code completion in realtime it is useless.
[17:09] <blognewb> so I guess I'll stick to gedit! ...?
[17:09] <blognewb> i wanna try that bluefish though im not sure!
[17:09] <BangBusRUs> What size and format should i have?
[17:10] <HackNewton> blognewb, go for geany !
[17:10] <hsyed> yes :D but if you wan't real power go with terminal coding using vim. it will feel like torture for a while, but you will develop conventions to doing things without the mouse, and once you have that you will be flying.
[17:10] <KARAG> Hey ActionPartership THanx for the help the problem did not go solved but thanx anyway :)
[17:10] <hsyed> blognewb look into installing the NERDtree plugin for vim
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> grendal-prime: have you removed old kernels?
[17:11] <BangBusRUs> I want one partition to have all my mp3s on it and i should be able to access the partition from windows if i ever need to?
[17:11] <blognewb> hsyed what is it for?
[17:11] <BangBusRUs> :(
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> KARAG: you need the alsa-utils package installing, your script says it is missing
[17:11] <grendal-prime> ActionParsnip, probably not..is this an  error that is associated with an older kernel?
[17:11] <blognewb> gedit bluefish geany
[17:11] <blognewb> oh my
[17:11] <hsyed> bangbusrus use ntfs , it's the least painfull method
[17:11] <grendal-prime> By the way this is something that someone else brought to my desk.
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> grendal-prime: if you have a tonne of old kernels, theywill take up a lot of space
[17:11] <KARAG> Yes but when i try to install it it says that it doesnt exists
[17:11] <BangBusRUs> I'm new to Linux and Ubuntu and I really want to install it on my thinkpad t61
[17:12] <Sidewinder1> BangBusRUs, There is a driver, for windows that will allow it to see ext3/4, but I forget the name.
[17:12] <BangBusRUs> ok
[17:12] <BangBusRUs> what about the size?
[17:12] <hsyed> blognewb nerdtree is just a side bar that shows file in directories. minimal and fast to use. learn how to use tabs first tho
[17:12] <BangBusRUs> Right now the size is the most important thing
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: www.fs-driver.com
[17:12] <blognewb> Komodo Edit GUYS opinion?
[17:12] <BangBusRUs> ok cool thanks i really appreciate it
[17:13] <mneptok> blognewb: don't.
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: not sure aout ext4 though
[17:13] <grendal-prime> ActionParsnip,  but that would be a consistent thing...this is aparently a deal were all the sudden the 30 gigs of space that is being used on hdb, all the sudden seems to be reported as consuming 30 gigs of space on root as well.
[17:13] <HackNewton> blognewb, no
[17:13] <BangBusRUs> what about the size of the partitions
[17:13] <hsyed> should I go to a different channel for tips on fakeraid install ? first time here
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: how do you mean?
[17:13] <mneptok> blognewb: Komodo Edit does not have a Debian package, and its installer dumps libraries all over your system.
[17:13] <hsyed> fat32 works upto 4 gigs, if it is larger use ntfs
[17:13] <BangBusRUs> I have a 160gb hdd and all of it is for ubuntu
[17:14] <BangBusRUs> i want one partition to have ubuntu and the other to have my mp3s
[17:14] <grendal-prime> ActionParsnip, and a reboot of the box...will cause it to go back to reporting the actual size on the root partation.
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: the largest Ext4 partition you can have is 1Eb
[17:14] <mneptok> blognewb: are you looking for a programmer's editor you can use on mutliple OSes? is that why you're looking at Komodo?
[17:14] <BangBusRUs> ok
[17:14] <blognewb> mneptok no not really, somebody suggested it over gedit
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: have an NTFS partition for the shared storage
[17:14] <BangBusRUs> ok what about swap
[17:14] <blognewb> mneptok is gedit really that minimalist
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: that;s if you intend to dual boot
[17:15] <blognewb> i tried gedit once it got confusing with the editing
[17:15] <BangBusRUs> and other thing in linux like /home /user
[17:15] <BangBusRUs> ok
[17:15] <mneptok> blognewb: try Bluefish or jEdit. both are in the repos. jEdit is Java, and will run anywhere Java runs.
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: 1xRAM for more than 2Gb RAM, if you have like 8Gb RAM and don't need hibernate etc, then you can skip swap
[17:15] <BangBusRUs> so i only need two partitions one for ubuntu and the other for my mp3
[17:15] <mneptok> BangBusRUs: swap?
[17:16] <FrietSok> I just wanne know i do i install the game mw3 i install a lot game but mw3 is a pain in the ass ,,,, look my ass pl
[17:16] <hsyed> @bang: pick a better nick :D 20 gigs + 2x ram size should be enough for linux
[17:16] <BangBusRUs> i dont understand please elaborate
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: You can have one big partition for everything, a seperate /home partition is good as it helps for reinstalls and backups
[17:16] <mneptok> FrietSok: drop that language. it is most unwelcome.
[17:16] <BangBusRUs> ok so how should i go with an 160gb hdd
[17:16] <Sidewinder1> BangBusRUs, This tutorial contains a rather comprehensive 'how-to': http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index
[17:16] <blognewb> mneptok but i thought java is so damn slow
[17:16] <BangBusRUs> ok thanks
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: are you dualbooting?
[17:17] <mneptok> blognewb: install jEdit. if it's painfully slow and you hate it, remove it.
[17:17] <BangBusRUs> no its only for ubuntu
[17:17] <BangBusRUs> i dont want windows no more
[17:17] <hsyed> bang: then you dont need ntfs
[17:17] <HackNewton> blognewb, which language you inteded to use ?
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: then 10Gb ext4 for /, 1xRAM for swap, the rest for /home
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: I assume you have 2Gb RAM or more
[17:17] <Sidewinder1> BangBusRUs, That link contains partitioning info., as well..
[17:17] <hsyed> bang: just let the installer do the disk management, don't bother with seperate partitions if this is your first install
[17:17] <mneptok> BangBusRUs: laptop or desktop?
[17:18] <BangBusRUs> but if i ever need to access my data from another computer i can get it so i want a file system format to be able to be used with windows
[17:18] <x3k4p> hi all
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: set the /home to ext4 too :)
[17:18] <MonkeyDust> BangBusRUs  i too have a separate partition for my backups, you could make one to store your mp3s
[17:18] <BangBusRUs> laptop
[17:18] <BangBusRUs> with 2gb ram
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: the file system is moot for filesharing, samba deals with all that
[17:18] <BangBusRUs> can you please pm me here
[17:18] <x3k4p> i want to install voice control for ubuntu 11.10
[17:18] <mneptok> BangBusRUs: 2.1*RAM = swap, if you want to suspend or hibernate
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: then 2Gb for swap
[17:18] <marel> Right now I am on windows and there's only one partition. Is it possible to install ubuntu without losing my windows ?
[17:18] <hsyed> bang: you'll be able to point another computer to the ip adress of this computer and access it like a windows shared drive (might have to fiddle a bit but i think it's not hard with ubuntu)
[17:18] <BangBusRUs> im having a hard time following and reading since my eye sight is weak
[17:18] <x3k4p> sudo apt-get install gnome-voice-control   not work
[17:18] <mneptok> ActionParsnip: 2GB swap on a laptop with 4GB RAM is not a good bet ;)
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> mneptok: (17:18:12) BangBusRUs: with 2gb ram
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> mneptok: 2Gb RAM, not 4Gb
[17:19] <BangBusRUs> yea 2gb ram
[17:19] <mneptok> ActionParsnip: then 2GB swap will allow memory contents to be dumped, as long as swap is *completely* empty when asked to page out RAM
[17:19] <bean> marel: check out WUBI
[17:20] <Sidewinder1> marel, Please see here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index
[17:20] <mneptok> ActionParsnip: 2.1*RAM = swap = allows swap to be full when asked to suspend or hibernate
[17:20] <Sidewinder1> marel, And, please, please stay away from WUBI!
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> mneptok: gotcha, although Ive never used more than 2Gb ram here but users use may be different
[17:21] <x3k4p> hwo can show me how to install gnome voice control
[17:22] <marel> Sidewinder1: another guy is saying I should check out WUBI. Why shouldn't I ?
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> x3k4p  is this link useful? http://linuxpoison.blogspot.com/2009/04/voice-control-your-ubuntu-desktop.html
[17:22] <mneptok> ActionParsnip: i figure disk space is cheap and plentiful, so ... i err on the side of extreme caution.
[17:22] <Nate__> hello?
[17:23] <Sidewinder1> marel, That's exactly why I chimed in; WUBI can be very problematic, WADR to the developers, of course.
[17:23] <mneptok> Nate__: greetings from Copper and Tramway ;)
[17:23] <Nate__> hey cool
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> mneptok: indeed :) although 160Gb isn't a lot but its more than enough
[17:23] <Nate__> does anyone know why i cant update "apt-get" or connect to Ubuntu Software Center?
[17:24] <mneptok> Nate__: what is the output of "sudo apt-get update" ?
[17:24] <Nate__> one sec
[17:25] <bean> Nate__: be sure to pastebin the output, not paste it here.
[17:25] <Nate__> k
[17:25] <fpu> hello
[17:26] <Sidewinder1> fpu, Greetings.
[17:26]  * mneptok looks at Nate__ and points at #ubuntu-us-nm
[17:27] <Nate__> Pasted at http://pastebin.com/Xd5NiJuU
[17:27] <Nate__> what is that other link?
[17:27] <yeti> !fr
[17:27] <fsancho> hi all
[17:27] <Sidewinder1> Good Afternoon IdleOne!
[17:28] <Nate__> anyone look at my error?
[17:29] <Nate__> hello?
[17:30] <ranjan> hi all, is there any web based cloud storage like software?? which can allocate a fixed space to users and can upload and browse files and folders. Set quota etc? something like dropbox, 4shared etc or even like ubuntu one
[17:30] <BussDriver> what's wrong with ubuntu one or dropbox?
[17:30] <MonkeyDust> Nate__  it's a Natty error, you using Natty?
[17:31] <fsancho> I have Ubuntu 10.04-3 32bits with Firefox9 from firefox-stable ppa and sun-java6-plugin from partner repo, but i can't see java plugin installed in firefox
[17:31] <ranjan> BussDriver: i want such a software to use internally. a Self hosted one
[17:31] <Nate__> I i have natty and was wanting to update. Its giving me that error too.
[17:31] <fsancho> have I missed something? How can i have sun java plugin to work with Firefox9
[17:31] <fsancho> ?
[17:31] <sewerurchin> ranjan: I have read about such applications for self hosting, have a google
[17:32] <ranjan> sewerurchin: are you mentioning about syncany? or can you give any clue?
[17:32] <MonkeyDust> Nate__  i think there's a corrupt source in your sources list
[17:32] <mneptok> Nate__: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please?
[17:32] <na__> hi there im using ubuntu 11.10 and my task bar is stuck over all of my program windows  .... how do i minimise it ??
[17:33] <Nate__> alright one sec
[17:33] <Sidewinder1> fsancho, The default version of FF for 10.04 is 3.6.24; when one goes "mixing and matching" different versions, it can be problematic.
[17:34] <na__> anyoine
[17:34] <motherbrain> lol http://pastebin.com/DZmrdR7N
[17:34] <na__> anyone helping me here ???????????????????????????????????
[17:35] <sskalnik> na__:  patience
[17:35] <fsancho> Sidewinder1: I know, but Firefox9 comes from  mozilla-team on Launchpad. It is supposed to be stable enough.
[17:36] <Nate__> Ok pasted my sources list at: http://pastebin.com/sRqyWbZy
[17:36] <na__> yhis chl is shiiiiiiiite
[17:36] <smile4ever> Will this break my LXDE? :) http://pastebin.com/nS5Rj90S
[17:37] <motherbrain> curious do most dpkg / packages install their exe or sh into the /usr/bin and usr/sbin directories. Because I have noticed that /bin and /sbin.
[17:37] <motherbrain> are mostly stay the same , have the core programs
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> motherbrain  /usr/bin/ is where programs are c
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> motherbrain  /usr/bin/ is where programs are located, that is correct
[17:38] <Nate__> anymore news?
[17:38] <Nate__> on my sources list?
[17:38] <Sidewinder1> smile4ever, No clue; it's all in a foreign language, and I'm a lousy translator.
[17:39] <mneptok> Nate__: what happens when you click this link? - http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[17:39] <MonkeyDust> Nate__  still opening your pastebin page, takes long time
[17:39] <marel> I'm on laptop and there's things like battery saving mode by default on windows. Are they going to be in ubuntu ?
[17:39] <smile4ever> Sidewinder1: it's saying the dependencies are not installed.
[17:40] <Nate__> When I go to that page it loads a Apache file server page.
[17:40] <Sidewinder1> smile4ever, Are you using server, or can you access Synaptic/Software Center?
[17:40] <Nate__> is that good?
[17:40] <mneptok> Nate__: OK, so nothing is prohibiting you from getting to the archives
[17:40] <Eette> yes marel, there are power settings in ubuntu.
[17:40] <petsounds> fsancho: i read that sun java are rendered unusable.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue246#Important_notice_regarding_Java_packages_in_Partner_archive not sure tho 'cause i use openjdk & icedtea
[17:41] <Nate__> So then what can I do?
[17:41] <smile4ever> Sidewinder1: I'm using Lubuntu with LXTerminal :)
[17:41] <smile4ever> But here are many more people online :)
[17:42] <smile4ever> and Lubuntu is almost the same as Ubuntu
[17:42] <mneptok> Nate__: in a terminal - "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf" (no quotes)
[17:42] <fsancho> petsounds: I'm afraid I need official sun java support. :)
[17:42] <ruser> si someone proficient with software raid and new grub?  can you help me sort out the oneirc updates with following? http://pastebin.com/p8cfpgBj  where does grub have to go to?
[17:42] <mneptok> Nate__: then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" (no quotes)
[17:42] <Nate__> ok one sec
[17:43] <ruser> mneptok: is upgrade redundant when dist-upgrade?
[17:43] <mneptok> ruser: no, as you want any libraries and packages a new kernel needs *before* you go about upgrading the kernel.
[17:44] <MrSherlockHouseM> hm
[17:45] <Nate__> Yes! It worked! Thank you so much
[17:45] <mneptok> Nate__: red or green?
[17:45] <mneptok> ;)
[17:45] <Nate__> So now that I can, would you suggest updating to the newest ubuntu?
[17:46] <mneptok> Nate__: Xubuntu user here. can't speak for recent Ubuntu iterations. i don't like the new UI, so i switched. my opinion is moot.
[17:46] <Nate__> Whats different about Xubuntu?
[17:47] <mneptok> Nate__: XFCE versus GNOME/Unity
[17:47] <Nate__> All that I'm doing is using Linux as a alternative to Windows. :P
[17:47] <ruser> is someone proficient with software raid and new grub?  can you help me sort out the oneirc updates with following? http://pastebin.com/p8cfpgBj  where does grub have to go to?
[17:47] <Nate__> its just a GUI different?
[17:47] <Nate__> difference*
[17:47] <mneptok> Nate__: yup
[17:48] <Nate__> ok thanks. Ill check it out. bye
[17:48] <ruser> Nate__: just careful some desktop managers are very different  from your standard ones.
[17:48] <Nate__> ok.
[17:48] <Nate__> gotta go now.
[17:48] <Nate__> bye
[17:48] <Nate__> thanks everyone
[17:48] <acidfrost> hmm this is weird firefox doesn't want to parse my php file
[17:49] <acidfrost> *doesn't want to let php parse my php file
[17:49] <Sidewinder1> Nate__, Here's what Unity looks like; http://pic.mk/images/hzBA8.png I'll, at least for now ,stick with 10.04. :D
[17:49] <ruser> acidfrost: why would firefox do that? it's up to web server to parse and process any server side scripts
[17:49] <Sidewinder1> Oops, gone. :-(
[17:49] <acidfrost> ruser, i corrected my self above
[17:49] <mneptok> Sidewinder1: bullet went wide to the right
[17:50] <Sidewinder1> mneptok, The story of my life,.. :-(
[17:50] <ruser> acidfrost: you are still blaiming firefox
[17:50] <mneptok> acidfrost: parsing PHP is a function fo the server, not the browser.
[17:50] <motherbrain> sd
[17:50] <mneptok> s/fo/of/
[17:50] <acidfrost> so then i've probably got apache configured wrong
[17:51] <mneptok> acidfrost: you need mod_php, that mod enabled, and .php files associated with the module and marked as executable
[17:51] <instanceoftom> what is a lightweight mailserver i can setup on my vps?
[17:51] <acidfrost> mneptok, yeah i've got mod_php i'm not sure if its enabled correctly
[17:51] <ruser> acidfrost: what mneptok and you might want to look .htaccess to enable specific directories to parse scripts
[17:52] <mneptok> ruser: we can turn paranoid once the lights are on ;)
[17:52] <marel> I've a 64BIT system. Should I download 32bit instead of 64 ? In the download page it says 32bit is recommended..
[17:52] <compdoc> marel, nothing wrong with 64 bi
[17:52] <acidfrost> marel no 64 bit is fine :P
[17:52] <compdoc> bit
[17:52] <acidfrost> marel if you have over 4gb of ram use the 64 bit
[17:53] <acidfrost> other wise you'd be capped on 32 to 4gb
[17:53] <ruser> mneptok: sometimes global config says do not parse unless .htaccess says otherwise, but i'm not sure what hte default is
[17:53] <marel> Alright, thanks
[17:53] <ruser> acidfrost: not entirely true, they can get PAE kenrle but that can lead to some nasty bugs with ram
[17:54] <ruser> 64bit for sure
[17:54] <ruser> s/kenrle/kernel/
[17:54] <acidfrost> ruser, yeah thats why i explicitly said otherwise lol
[17:54] <mohadib> when i move my mouse i hear a buzzing noise. how can i stop this?
[17:54] <motherbrain> I have a really odd? I have a windows 7 os ..as the only os's on this harddrive... I booted with alive linux distro and used sudo blkid to display the uuid for the drives... I think shutdown the system and started it backup again ... issued the sudo blkid to get the uuid and it was persistent same uuid on reboot... so I am wondering where the uuid is stored on the harddrive I know linux machines store it in the superblock do micros
[17:54] <motherbrain> oft windows machine have that some where in their ntfs blocks because I don't think fat does
[17:55] <motherbrain> And if it is not stored somewhere on the harddrive this value then it wouldn't be persistent
[17:56] <ruser> is someone proficient with software raid and new grub?  can you help me sort out the dist-upgrade to oneirc with following? http://pastebin.com/p8cfpgBj  where does grub have to go to?
[17:56] <motherbrain> And it cann't just be stored in the registry unless ubuntu's blkid command could parse thru the registry
[17:56] <motherbrain> which I don't think it can
[17:57] <bean> motherbrain: the whole point of blkid is that it's persistent I believe.
[17:58] <bean> motherbrain: I would imagine it's a function of something about the drive, ie a serial number of sorts.
[17:58] <Kolnmenky> Hi I keep getting this same error when I try to mount my external hard drive: http://pastebin.com/fnpEnm4a
[17:59] <bean> Kolnmenky: is it raid? or just a windows disk.
[17:59] <Kolnmenky> I went to a cyber cafe and ran chkdsk in xp (it took a while) and I thought that had fixed it
[17:59] <Kolnmenky> bean it's a NTFS (Seagate)
[17:59] <bean> Kolnmenky: what command are you using to mount it.
[17:59] <Kolnmenky> bean  sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/Disc5
[18:00] <bean> Kolnmenky: try doing sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o force /dev/sdb1 /media/Disc5
[18:00] <phil_phys> dear friends I can't download image page on ubuntu 11.10 this is the site http://rstampa.pubblica.istruzione.it/rassegna/rassegna.asp
[18:00] <motherbrain> ya, but it can only be persistent it stores the uuid on the HDD some where? I know if this was a linux ext3,4,..etc it would store it somewhere in the superblock.... On windows machines will this uuid be stored if the drive was an ntfs or fat... Because I am using linux boot cd to get the uuid on a windows machine
[18:00] <phil_phys> are u able to see the articles?? for me those articles are very important
[18:01] <Kolnmenky> bean: I get the same error
[18:01] <ruser> bean: Kolnmenky maybe also try in  r/o mode too
[18:01] <bean> phil_phys: you need to install a pdf reader.
[18:01] <Kolnmenky> ruser: how could I do that?
[18:01] <wado> hey, the headphone doesn't work on my laptop ubuntu 10.10
[18:01] <phil_phys> bean: It's installed
[18:01] <cablop> can i run kubuntu 11.10 with 384MB RAM only?
[18:01] <phil_phys> bean: Acrobat Reader 9
[18:01] <motherbrain> and I never want it to change if I use different boot cd's to get the windows unique identifiers for a particular drive
[18:02] <ruser> Kolnmenky:  sudo mount  -o ro  /dev/sdb1 /media/Disc5
[18:02] <ruser> Kolnmenky: also cna you pastebin the dmesg when you plug the hdd in?
[18:02] <ruser> s/cna/can/
[18:02] <bean> motherbrain: i'm pretty sure that ntfs has super blocks too, but I could be wrong
[18:02] <Kolnmenky> ruser: I got the same error with that
[18:03] <wado> hey, the headphone doesn't work on my laptop ubuntu 10.10 ... how to make it work??
[18:03] <Kolnmenky> ruser: http://pastebin.com/fnpEnm4a
[18:04] <BangBusRUs> Anybody help me with fdisk please just want to see what size my partitions are set to and partition a partition ?
[18:04] <motherbrain> well, I physically looked up in the past the place where the uuid gets stored on an ext based file system.... I was just wondering microsoft would have to do the same thing on their ntfs or fat file systems to maintain universal persistence
[18:04] <coryxrx> i have an ubuntu server problem is this the right room?
[18:04] <ruser> Kolnmenky: that's the old url, i want dmesg output
[18:05] <bean> motherbrain: what does it matter?
[18:05] <ruser> coryxrx: just ask, as long aas it is ubuntu related
[18:05] <motherbrain> Also old drives that have old file systems like fat . do they support uuid / store it on their drive some where?
[18:05] <Kolnmenky> do I just type dmesg?
[18:05] <ruser> is someone proficient with software raid and new grub?  can you help me sort out the dist-upgrade to oneirc with following? http://pastebin.com/p8cfpgBj  where does grub have to go to?
[18:05] <ruser> Kolnmenky: yeah
[18:06] <motherbrain> It matters to uniquely identify a drive if you where making software to image a particular drive for someone .... and to make it dummy proof
[18:06] <coryxrx> ok, I have a fresh install of ubuntu server 11.10 with no gui and whenever I try and boot up without a monitor it does not boot and does not show up on the network
[18:06] <ruser> coryxrx: do you have kvm access? or virual kvm?
[18:06] <JasseT> hello peeps! and straight to the chase, is there a way to get mobile broadband to work on startup without manually enabling it every time?
[18:07] <wado> anyone see my request!!,  the headphone doesn't work on my laptop ubuntu 10.10 ... how to make it work??
[18:07] <Kolnmenky> ruser: http://pastebin.com/CpHCxjR4
[18:07] <coryxrx> ruser: no I do not
[18:08] <ruser> coryxrx: than use your dedicated/vps admin panel to reinstall ubuntu from the image provided by the service provider
[18:08] <acidfrost> ruser: mneptok: yeah i forgot to set Include=conf.d/*
[18:08] <ruser> coryxrx: i assume you have backups of the most important stuff
[18:09] <coryxrx> well I literally just installed it last night. Its running on a mac mini and when I boot with a display everything works fine.
[18:09] <ruser> coryxrx: ah, so you do have access to the machine. does ssh run with monitor attached? do you run iptables? you might want to allow access to ssh port
[18:10] <ruser> corryx sudo iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
[18:10] <kollapse> Hi. I have a problem here with Ubuntu. It seems that with any browser, if I attempt to save/download a file, when the file save dialog should apper, the browser freezes.
[18:11] <coryxrx> ruser: I do have access to ssh with the monitor attached, but for example if I boot without the monitor attached and then plug it in after a few minutes all I get is a black screen
[18:11] <ruser> coryxrx: well, that's normal.  X failed to start without monitor
[18:11] <ruser> coryxrx: you just need to resart it
[18:11] <ruser> coryxrx: i mean the X
[18:11] <kollapse> And after the browser freezes, If I use xkill or kill to close the application, the windeco gets killed as well.
[18:12] <coryxrx> ruser: but is it even running X if it is just a cli?
[18:12] <ruser> Kolnmenky: i'm not sure what's happeneing there.  should mount.  does the external drive use any propriatary softwrae?
[18:12] <plotino> hi everybody
[18:13] <plotino> i have serious issue installing Nvidia geforce4 mx440-se video card agp with ubuntu
[18:13] <plotino> doesnt get to start x
[18:13] <ruser> coryxrx: if you install ubuntu with X, than it tries to start it up, doesn't find the monitor and fails to start X.  while everythign else is running you can just swtich back to cli mode by pressing ctrl+alt+f1  (up to f4, iirc)
[18:13] <plotino> the only way is to set driver vesa in xorg.conf
[18:13] <acidfrost> plotino, you need to blacklist nouveau and use nvidia's proprietary drivers
[18:14] <acidfrost> or use vesa
[18:14] <acidfrost> :P
[18:14] <ruser> is someone proficient with software raid and new grub?  can you help me sort out the dist-upgrade to oneirc with following? http://pastebin.com/p8cfpgBj  where does grub have to go to?
[18:14] <plotino> vesa doesnt get the resolution for my monitor
[18:14] <plotino> 1920x1080
[18:14] <acidfrost> yeah then you need to install the proprietary drivers
[18:14] <acidfrost> sudo apt-get install nvidia (should work but let me double check
[18:14] <acidfrost> )
[18:14] <coryxrx> ruser: I dont think I have X, it is just the Ubuntu Server version. I did not install it with any sort of gui its just a cli.
[18:15] <plotino> i have installed nvidia-173 from ubuntu repository
[18:15] <plotino> anf also nvidia-96
[18:15] <plotino> they dont work
[18:15] <Kolnmenky> ruser: hmm what do you mean the software that comes with it?
[18:15] <kollapse> Any help with my problem ?
[18:16] <acidfrost> plotino, sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[18:16] <plotino> ok
[18:16] <Kolnmenky> I deleted it when I formatted the drive
[18:16] <acidfrost> plotino, if that doesn't work 180 covers a decent amount of cards
[18:16] <plotino> so it's better to remove what i have previously installed?
[18:16] <acidfrost> yeah otherwise you get conflictions
[18:17] <ruser> Kolnmenky: some enclosure manufacturers provide propriatary software which might use variations on partition and filesystems thus it might not be simple ntfs
[18:17] <acidfrost> and it would probably be a good idea to blacklist noveau
[18:17] <plotino> but thix nvidia-current overwrite my xorg.conf autonomously?
[18:17] <Kolnmenky> ruser: :/ it's a seagate freeagent
[18:17] <plotino> why blacklist and not remove noveau?
[18:17] <acidfrost> because its a good back up driver
[18:17] <plotino> ok
[18:18] <plotino> but i prefer vesa as backup
[18:18] <ruser> Kolnmenky: do you have any data on that drive that you need?
[18:18] <plotino> acidfrost: what to do for xorg.conf?
[18:18] <ruser> plotino: also, if you do you updates the drive might come back, so blacklisting will make sure it doesnt' load
[18:18] <acidfrost> you may or may not have nvidia-xconfig
[18:18] <ruser> s/drive/driver/
[18:19] <acidfrost> if you have nvidia-xconfig just type that as root or use sudo nvidia-xconfig
[18:19] <Kolnmenky> ruser: I don't it's pretty much empty and it's fairly new
[18:19] <nvz> this is as I know a universal linux issue but since the machine I'm currently working on and concerned with is using ubuntu 11.04 I am gonna ask here
[18:20] <ruser> Kolnmenky: than reformat it
[18:20] <Kolnmenky> ruser: with gparted? to ext3?
[18:20] <acidfrost> !question | nvz
[18:20] <kollapse> In fact, any file save dialog freezes (in Gnome). Any way to fix this ?
[18:20] <nvz> the issue is no scrolling in flash applets, I thought it was because the flash applet catches the scroll but thats not the case, apps that use the scroll don't get it. Anyone have any suggestions on running it down?
[18:20] <plotino> what is the command to check in which packet is a specific program??
[18:20] <coryxrx> ruser: I have also tried to stop X but it is not installed
[18:20] <acidfrost> nvz is it a touchpad ?
[18:20] <ruser> coryxrx: what do you get with ctrl+alt+f1 when monitor is attached
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> plotino: so you want what package provides a command?
[18:21] <plotino> yes ActionParsnip
[18:21] <ruser> coryxrx: you can hit enter a couple of times if nothing is on
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> plotino: dpkg -S command
[18:21] <coryxrx> ruser: when I am in the grub menu?
[18:21] <plotino> thanks :)
[18:21] <acidfrost> plotino, type which
[18:21] <nvz> acidfrost: no and its not a mouse issue. when mouse is over a flash applet the browser will not scroll the page, and the flash applets that use scroll dont get the scroll
[18:21] <ruser> coryxrx: why are you at the grub menu?
[18:21] <acidfrost> then name of the acid
[18:21] <ruser> Kolnmenky: if you don't wantto use it under windows ext3 would be a fine choice
[18:21] <bean> nvz: thats an issue with flash on all platforms, flash catches the scroll.
[18:21] <plotino> acidfrost but which is only for the location of the command
[18:22] <acidfrost> plotino, which is a good way to find out if its installed ;p
[18:22] <nvz> bean: yes but on windows you can in these games use scroll to zoom, in linux (any I've tried) you cannot
[18:22] <ruser> coryxrx: can you repeat the full question, of what is the issue and what are you trying to do?
[18:22] <acidfrost> nvz, you'd be better off using wine and chrome or wine and firefox
[18:22] <Kolnmenky> ruser: ok I'll do that. I don't have any computer with windows. The last time I tried it didn't let me though
[18:23] <ruser> is someone proficient with software raid and new grub?  can you help me sort out the dist-upgrade to oneirc with following? http://pastebin.com/p8cfpgBj  where does grub have to go to?
[18:23] <nvz> acidfrost: thats an idea.. I will test that.
[18:23] <hobbelt> How can i change the command behind  Unity button?
[18:23] <hobbelt> I need to set application startup settings
[18:23] <plotino> acidfrost yes but i wanna know which packet i have to install to have a command available
[18:23] <acidfrost> nvz, though i seem to recall a certain key combination you could use to simulate scrolling
[18:23] <coryxrx> ruser: ok, my full question/problem is that I have ubuntu server installed and no gui is install. My goal is to have it boot up to the login prompt without the need for a monitor attached.
[18:23] <acidfrost> acidfrost, ahh well what are you looking for ?
[18:24] <nvz> acidfrost: yeah that won't work. I've installed ubuntu on my cousin's computer and she will just keep going back to windows if it doesnt work the way its suppose to on this matter
[18:24] <coryxrx> ruser: and it has always been like that it boots into the grub menu and counts down and then boots into the cli
[18:24] <ruser> coryxrx: so what's the issue than?  cli is good. right?
[18:24] <bean> nvz: why do you need to zoom in flash?
[18:24] <nvz> acidfrost: the wine with chrome might do the trick.. as long as it runs smoothly and works
[18:25] <acidfrost> acidfrost, yes the browsers run fine where you get into trouble is with .net applications
[18:25] <coryxrx> ruser: yes but it wont even boot into the cli if not monitor is attached or even gain network access
[18:25] <nvz> bean: I dont, she does.. plays farmville.. and this reason alone.. not being able to play it at normal speed due to flash bugs keeps her loading win7 which will kill this damn computer
[18:25] <ruser> Kolnmenky: sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/WHATEVERTHEDRIVEIS
[18:25] <bean> nvz: she has to zoom to play it? it's a laggy app as is.
[18:26] <hobbelt> How can i change the command behind a Unity button?
[18:26] <acidfrost> nvz, all facebook games are slow as hell
[18:26] <nvz> bean: yes zoom is a pretty important feature on these games, being able to zoom and pan is the difference between a 1min thing and a 30min thing
[18:26] <acidfrost> hobbelt, ?? your question is confusing
[18:26] <Caifas> guys, I'm having this problem while remastering my ubuntu, I'm not selecting the option to make hybrid iso but stil
[18:26] <Caifas> "Making your ISO hybrid...
[18:26] <Caifas> isohybrid: /home/alexandre/tmp/remaster-new-files/livecd.iso: boot loader does not have an isolinux.bin hybrid signature. Note that isolinux-debug.bin does not support hybrid booting
[18:26] <Caifas> Failed to pack ISO image, error=1
[18:26] <Caifas> Build ended at 2012-01-03 16:04:50"
[18:26] <FloodBot1> Caifas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:26] <Caifas> Can anyone help me?
[18:26] <ruser> coryxrx: makre sure the default selection for grub is the one you want to boot
[18:26] <acidfrost> !repeat| Caifas
[18:26] <bs> hi
[18:26] <hobbelt> acidfrost I have a chromium launch button in the Unity bar, and i want to add this: --enable-extension-timeline-api
[18:27] <nvz> acidfrost: yes I know this, we need not argue about it you already gave me an idea and if you'd STFU I'd be able to test it .. heh
[18:27] <coryxrx> ruser: it is
[18:27] <oCean> nvz: control your language here, please
[18:27] <Kolnmenky> ruser: oh ok I tried to do it with the disk utility. I'll do that then
[18:27] <coryxrx> ruser: i did a lot of research on this and other people have the same problem but it seems that they all have a gui of some sort
[18:27] <nvz> oCean: my language is under control
[18:27] <ruser> !paste | Caifas
[18:27] <acidfrost> hobbelt, you could mv chromium to say chromium-old and create a bash file with chromium-old --enable-extension-timeline-api
[18:28] <oCean> nvz: thanks
[18:28] <acidfrost> nvz, thats pretty rude i'm just trying to help
[18:28] <bs> how to run windows games
[18:28] <bean> bs: you can do it through WINE
[18:28] <bean> !wine | bs
[18:28] <ruser> coryxrx: can you link me to some of those posts online?  it's a first time i hear that
[18:28] <hobbelt> acidfrost that probably implicates me finding the chromium launcher somwhere in a dir on my pc.. hmm
[18:29] <nvz> acidfrost: you were trying to help, arguing about the reason stupid people do stupid things isnt helping.. the matter at hand is that flash doesnt work properly on linux. we both know it sucks and fb and the games are stupid
[18:29] <ruser> coryxrx: can you check your network equipment to see if the box request and ip from dhcp server?
[18:29] <mitic> http://xdcc_21
[18:29] <acidfrost> hobbelt, yeah i'd say it would probably be somewhere in /usr/bin but i'm not familiar that much with unity
[18:29] <orkaa> http://dpaste.com/680971/
[18:29] <acidfrost> hobbelt, you may even be able to right click it for all i know
[18:29] <coryxrx> ruser: yea ill find one for you, but I tried booting with a monitor while it was attached to the network and everything worked fine, its only when a monitor is not attached
[18:30] <hobbelt> acidfrost .. it makes everything so much more complicated.. and right click doesnt work :(
[18:30] <bs> what is the best client to run voice and web cam for yahoo and msn
[18:30] <ruser> coryxrx: that's really strange, i'd look in the grub configuration
[18:30] <cgroza> Hello everyone. By default, the bash prompt shows the current directory. What do I have to do to disable this?
[18:30] <coryxrx> ruser: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1223504
[18:30] <acidfrost> hobbelt, what i was talking about was just mving the actual binary then replacing it with a bash script that way it would get run no matter what
[18:30] <bs> what is the best client to run voice and web cam for yahoo and msn
[18:30] <bean> cgroza: you change your PS1 variable
[18:30] <bean> !repeat | bs
[18:31] <cgroza> bean: using bashrc?
[18:31] <bean> cgroza: yep.
[18:31] <cgroza> bean: And I change it to what?
[18:31] <bean> cgroza: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-linux-unix-bash-shell-setup-prompt.html
[18:31] <Caifas> Making your ISO hybrid... // isohybrid: /home/alexandre/tmp/remaster-new-files/livecd.iso: boot loader does not have an isolinux.bin hybrid signature. Note that isolinux-debug.bin does not support hybrid booting // Failed to pack ISO image, error=1 // Build ended at 2012-01-03 16:04:50. Anyone know what is causing this? I'm not marking the option to make a hybrid iso/usb on uck
[18:31] <antivirtel> I'm going to install an FTP server for a slow CPU device. Which one will you recomend: pro, vs or pure FTP(d)? My need is only the speed. I will used in LAN, so security doesn't really matter now.
[18:31] <cgroza> bean: thanks.
[18:31] <ruser> coryxrx: but they all seem to have X installed
[18:32] <bean> cgroza: why do you not want the current directory in your PS1, though. It's very useful
[18:32] <ruser> is someone proficient with software raid and new grub?  can you help me sort out the dist-upgrade to oneirc with following? http://pastebin.com/p8cfpgBj  where does grub have to go to?
[18:32] <coryxrx> ruser: yea which is why this makes no sense to me and why it should be working when its not
[18:33] <acidfrost> ruser, try #linux they are full of raid guys
[18:33] <hobbelt> acidfrost .. I found an app which can do it for me.. hmm
[18:33] <cgroza> bean: it gets annoying with large hierarchies.
[18:33] <ruser> coryxrx: but you dont' have X installed, you are not getting the same issue
[18:33] <Kolnmenky> ruser: This is just weird now I was able to mount it as Disc5_
[18:33] <acidfrost> acidfrost, cool mind sharing in case some one lurking needed to know
[18:33] <ruser> acidfrost: i'll probably chased of to #ubuntu  :)
[18:33] <cgroza> bean: I prefer pwd whenever i need the current dir.
[18:33] <ruser> Kolnmenky: with ntfs?
[18:33] <Kolnmenky> now I have Disc5_ and Disc5__
[18:33] <acidfrost> acidfrost, or they may send you to #arch
[18:33] <coryxrx> ruser: but its still the same problems, it boots when a monitor is attached and gets network access but with no monitor it does not
[18:33] <Kolnmenky> I believe so  because I couldn't format it
[18:34] <ruser> coryxrx: no, their machien boots but halts X start because of hte dailog box
[18:34] <Kolnmenky> it says NTFS  the disk utility
[18:34] <acidfrost> coryxrx, you could just cut the vga cord off and leave it plugged in
[18:34] <acidfrost> :P
[18:34] <ruser> coryxrx: yours doesn't get boot
[18:34] <ruser> acidfrost: lol, i wonder if there is a signaling pin
[18:34] <bean> cgroza: valid, you could use \W to get the basename, so that you just have the current dir and not the whole hieracrhcy
[18:34] <hobbelt> acidfrost :  gnome-desktop-item-edit ~/.local/share/applications/ --create-new <-- there we go :). gah, why doesnt right click work...
[18:34] <coryxrx> acidfrost: lol
[18:35] <ahandy> question.. i just installed chromium/awesome-wm, but chromium does not tile in awesome-wm... does anyone have any idea why
[18:35] <acidfrost> ruser, yes there is but you could just plug it into a power outlet
[18:35] <acidfrost> scratch that a 9v battery
[18:35] <coryxrx> ruser: but its just weird that it wont boot without a monitor
[18:35] <cgroza> bean: thanks. That is even more useful :D.
[18:35] <ruser> coryxrx: i never heard of such issues unless you have X
[18:35] <acidfrost> coryxrx, yeah it should boot with out a monitor arch did it all the time
[18:35] <ruser> coryxrx: i run several dedicated servers and all of them are headless setup
[18:36] <ruser> coryxrx: are you sure the X is not installed
[18:36] <acidfrost> its probably a configuration issue
[18:36] <ruser> acidfrost: or he is not asking the right question
[18:36] <buttons> I started a process with nohup and put it in the background, I then killed it using kill −9 PID but it seems to still be running but ps does not list anything. Any ideas what might be wrong?
[18:36] <acidfrost> ruser, true
[18:36] <coryxrx> ruser: is there a way I can check to make sure
[18:36] <ruser> coryxrx: boot with monitor attached and get hte list of packages installed
[18:37] <acidfrost> coryxrx, you could check dmesg
[18:37] <ruser> acidfrost: what woudl be in dmesg?
[18:37] <kawatan> I'm on 11.10 on a MSI Wind U160DX. There is a small webcam on the laptop but Cheese isn't recognizing it. Any suggestions for first steps towards making it work?
[18:37] <acidfrost> ruser, should have xorg info
[18:37] <ruser> acidfrost: really?
[18:37] <acidfrost> ruser, then again ubuntu differs greatly from arch
[18:37] <ruser> acidfrost: lol. shows how much i use X :)
[18:38] <ruser> kawatan:  take a look at lsusb to get the id and find the driver by id?
[18:38] <buttons> nevermind I found it
[18:38] <ruser> kawatan: maybe lspci instead for pci id
[18:38] <acidfrost>  coryxrx  or you could check your logs /var/logs
[18:38] <ruser> coryxrx: dpkg --get-selections  and pastebin it
[18:38] <wado> anyone see my request!!,  the headphone doesn't work on my laptop ubuntu 10.10 ... how to make it work???
[18:39] <wado> is there any body can help?
[18:39] <x3no> i have a problem installing foobar2000 in ubuntu 11.10 . Installer says that i havent adminstrative rights. How can i use sudo command in terminal towards .exe file in terminal?
[18:39] <ruser> wado: check yoru sound mixer and make sure they are not muted
[18:39] <mitic> http://xdcc_91
[18:39] <bean> !repeat | wado
[18:39] <acidfrost> wado in terminal type alsamixer
[18:39] <acidfrost> if you se MM anywhere push m on it to unmute it
[18:39] <mosdef100200> Hi there has anyone tried the Knoppix live cd I am running it in vbox and all i get is a robot menu with very basic functions?
[18:39] <bean> mosdef100200: this is for ubuntu, not knoppix
[18:40] <wado> ruser not muted of course, I'm talking about a serious matter
[18:40] <ruser> x3no: are you truning to run windows executable in linux?
[18:40] <mosdef100200> I know just trying my luck
[18:40] <ruser> wado: doesnt' hurt to check
[18:40] <x3no> ruser: yes, with Wine
[18:40] <acidfrost> mosdef100200, wrong channel bud you could try #koppix
[18:40] <Kolnmenky> this just baffles me I just rebooted and I have the drive mounted as Disc5_. I also see Disc5. I know that whenever I try to copy files I'll get the same input output error though :(
[18:40] <mosdef100200> Ok
[18:40] <libin_v> How can I know if I am running a 64-bit kernel
[18:40] <kawatan> wado, check sound settings: sometimes messing with volume there directly helps me
[18:40] <kawatan> ruser: strangely the webcam isn't showing up at all with lspci.
[18:40] <ruser> libin_v:  uname -a
[18:40] <sivakumar_> hi every on,,,here any one now about NS2
[18:40] <Kolnmenky> why do I have so many devices Disc5_ Disc5__ Disc5___ ...?
[18:40] <wado> acidfrost done, and i got in-terminal interface
[18:41] <ruser> kawatan: what about lsusb?
[18:41] <kawatan> likewise.
[18:41] <acidfrost> wado use the arrow keys to navigate
[18:41] <ruser> kawatan: what about -vV flag with lspci  (if i remember the correct syntax)
[18:41] <ruser> kawatan:  do you have to enable it by pressing the function buttons?
[18:41] <acidfrost> and if you see an m any where(normally at the bottom) navigate there and push m to unmute it
[18:42] <libin_v> ruser:  I get the following .. Linux LibinUbuntu 3.0.0-14-generic #23-Ubuntu SMP Mon Nov 21 20:28:43 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:42] <ahandy> question :D my laptop holds for about 4 hours on windows on battery :/ however, on ubuntu, it maxes out at just one hour and 20 minutes... can anyone help me with that?
[18:42] <ruser> libin_v: x86_64  means you are running 64 bit
[18:42] <bean> libin_v: then you're on 64 bit.
[18:42] <ahandy> as well as overheating
[18:42] <x3no> ruset : so what about it, im running executable with Wine
[18:42] <acidfrost> ahandy, depends on the applications you use
[18:42] <coryxrx> ruser: am i just removing everything that has "xserver"
[18:42] <x3no> ruser : so what about it, im running executable with Wine
[18:42] <libin_v> ruser: bean: Thanks
[18:42] <ahandy> acidfrost: awesome-wm as a windows manager :/ not sure about any other app running in the background... not sure there is any.. just installed ubuntu
[18:43] <acidfrost> ahandy, my netbook should be getting around 3 - 4 hours but mine maxes out at about 2:20
[18:43] <ruser> x3no: ah, no idea, i havne't touched win in 5 years
[18:43] <acidfrost> ahandy, there are tons but i couldn't list them all
[18:43] <kawatan> ...this whole year I've had this netbook and never noticed the webcam function key
[18:43] <kawatan> thank you XP
[18:43] <ruser> x3no: not sure why woudl you need to sudo, but looks like you need to add wine to group that can access your sound devices
[18:43] <ahandy> acidfrost: so what's the solution?
[18:43] <kawatan> now to see if this'll work in skype XD
[18:43] <bean> ahandy: you might want to check out laptop mode, and install laptop-mode-tools.
[18:43] <sivakumar_> NETWORK SIMULATOR.......does anyone know about this
[18:43] <x3no> ruser: thanks a lot
[18:44] <ruser> kawatan: so i guess correctly?
[18:44] <bean> sivakumar_: what?
[18:44] <acidfrost> ahandy if you want to extend life i'd switch to arch linux its very bare bones but its not for the beginner
[18:44] <ruser> x3no: did that fix it?
[18:44] <sivakumar_> bean, NS2
[18:44] <ahandy> acidfrost: i use arch on my desktop
[18:44] <kawatan> yup, ruser. thanks!
[18:44] <x3no> ruser: wait :D
[18:44] <wado> acidfrost I have only a scroll for volume, nothing related to the headphone
[18:44] <x3no> ruser: but seems that it will help
[18:44] <acidfrost> ahandy, well then you should be right at home then :P
[18:44] <sivakumar_> bean, do you know about ns2
[18:44] <ahandy> acidfrost: no experience with linux on a lappy
[18:44] <ruser> x3no: maybe google for wine and sound support, my guess wine doens't have the rights to sound devices :)
[18:44] <acidfrost> ahandy, the really only major problem is wifi
[18:45] <bean> sivakumar_: what about it. no i don't know anything.
[18:45] <acidfrost> ahandy, but assuming you have an atheros chip you should be good
[18:45] <ruser> kawatan: lol,  awesome :)
[18:45] <subzero> Hello
[18:45] <spaceneedle> Possible bug: Fairly recently i've been having problems with battery usage. The  Battery would not charge--I think that was the problem. Anyway, it's working now. I.m using a DEll D610.
[18:45] <subzero> A question about nautilus???
[18:45] <acidfrost> wado try messing with the sound settings under system( you could have a dead port)
[18:46] <ruser> is someone proficient with software raid and new grub?  can you help me sort out the dist-upgrade to oneirc with following? http://pastebin.com/p8cfpgBj  where does grub have to go to?
[18:46] <ruser> !ask } subzero
[18:46] <ruser> !ask | subzero
[18:46] <acidfrost> spaceneedle, thats not a bug its hardware related
[18:46] <wado> acidfrost messing ? what do you mean?
[18:46] <subzero> I need to make my Nautilus to read greek characters...how to do that???
[18:47] <acidfrost> wado goto system -> preferences->sound and try your luck there
[18:47] <acidfrost> subzero, thats and odd subject ;p you could switch the language for the system
[18:47] <meegooo> is there any way to get ping statistics without KILLing the ping process ?
[18:47] <acidfrost> meegooo, man ping will give you some info
[18:48] <ruser> meegooo: give it -n flag to limit number of queries?
[18:48] <subzero> Some file names are in Greek and Nautilus are not seeing them...WHY???
[18:48] <meegooo> acidfrost:  i want to know if there is something like SIGINFO in linux.
[18:48] <ruser> subzero: probably because you don't have greek locale installed?
[18:49] <wado> acidfrost there r no many oprtions, under the output tab there nohing but only  "Internal audio analog stereo"
[18:49] <ruser> meegooo: wrong flag, my bad
[18:49] <subzero> How to do that please, ruser
[18:49] <acidfrost> wado your headphone port is either dead or your headphones are dead
[18:49] <ruser> meegooo: ping HOST -c5
[18:49] <c0nrad> Ti ekdosi trexeis subzero?
[18:50] <subzero> I do not want to change my menus in Greek...only to see greek file names on files
[18:50] <ruser> !locale | subzero
[18:50] <wado> acidfrost the headphone is working in another pc, how to check the port??
[18:50] <acidfrost> !gr | conrad
[18:50] <acidfrost> wado, you pretty much already did
[18:51] <acidfrost> * shoulda been c0nrad
[18:51] <Kolnmenky> now I have a bunch of devices.. disc5; disc5__, disc5____ etc what can I do to fix it?
[18:51] <wado> acidfrost I don't know, anyhow if it is dead how to fix it??
[18:51] <ruser> Kolnmenky: no idea, i'd just ignore :)
[18:51] <subzero> Thank you ruser..!!
[18:51] <acidfrost> you'd need a new sound card wado
[18:52] <ruser> acidfrost: maybe he can try livecd?
[18:52] <coryxrx> ruser: im going to try and reinstall and see if that fixes my problem
[18:52] <wado> acidfrost why? it is working fine on windows
[18:52] <ruser> coryxrx: install SERVER do not install X
[18:52] <acidfrost> wado, well you neglected that part
[18:52] <coryxrx> is X included in the ubuntu server image?
[18:53] <acidfrost> wado next please give relevant information ;p
[18:53] <ruser> coryxrx: probably, but it's also possible it gets the package from internet
[18:53] <acidfrost> *next time
[18:53] <ruser> acidfrost: my guess it's still mutred
[18:53] <Kolnmenky> ruser: wouldn't that mean something? because  now the device is always busy and I can't do anything with it
[18:53] <ruser> s/mutred/muted/
[18:53] <wado> acidfrost then what to do?
[18:53] <acidfrost> wado, i'd do as ruser suggested and try a live cd
[18:54] <acidfrost> ruser, could be but alsamixer should list the headphone port
[18:54] <ruser> Kolnmenky: you probably have a shell open, in the same directory
[18:54] <ruser> Kolnmenky: you can try to sudo lsof|grep /mnt/Disck5 or w/e the directory is
[18:54] <wado> acidfrost a live cd?? why?
[18:54] <ruser> Kolnmenky: to see which process is keeping it busy
[18:55] <acidfrost> wado, because  a livecd has only default applications and no user configuration
[18:55] <ruser> wado: to confirm that something is misconfigured on your system
[18:55] <ruser> s/something/if something/
[18:55] <acidfrost> and if its your setup then like ruser said it will confirm that its something that you installed or did that muted it
[18:55] <bs> i can't fine the other partions on ubuntu 11.10
[18:55] <wado> acidfrost ruser and what to do when running the livecd?
[18:55] <acidfrost> if not then your audio card needs driver
[18:55] <ruser> bs: full question please
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> bs  in a terminal, type df -h
[18:56] <acidfrost> wado try going to last fm or playing some music
[18:56] <ruser> wado: check that your headphones are working in livecd
[18:56] <Kolnmenky> ruser: it says lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /home//.gvfs
[18:56] <Kolnmenky>       Output information may be incomplete.
[18:56] <bs> MonkeyDust, terminal is downloading wine right now
[18:56] <ruser> Kolnmenky: anythign else?
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> bs  you can open a new terminal
[18:57] <acidfrost> brb
[18:57] <ruser> is someone proficient with software raid and new grub?  can you help me sort out the dist-upgrade to oneirc with following? http://pastebin.com/p8cfpgBj  where does grub have to go to?
[18:57] <wado> acidfrost ruser what if it workes? and what if it doesn't work?
[18:57] <Kolnmenky> ruser: mo
[18:57] <Kolnmenky> no*
[18:57] <ruser> Kolnmenky: what does mount output?
[18:58] <bs> MonkeyDust, http://paste.ubuntu.com/791992/
[18:58] <Kolnmenky> ruser: it's alerady mounted
[18:58] <ruser> Kolnmenky: what are you trying to do than?
[18:59] <MonkeyDust> bs  what other partitions are there or are you expecting to see? did you create them manually?
[18:59] <AFD> is it possible to migrate from one ubuntu machine to a new one (saving all settings etc) just by using deja dup?
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> AFD  yes, moment, here's how
[19:00] <bs> MonkeyDust,    sdb have 3 partions,my usb device,sda have another two partions
[19:01] <MonkeyDust> AFD  this works, i used it mayself http://paste.ubuntu.com/791996/
[19:01] <MonkeyDust> bs  what's the outcome of sudo fdisk -l ?
[19:01] <AFD> MonkeyDust: thanks. And this will pick up settings etc that aren't stored in the my /home/usr ?
[19:02] <bs> MonkeyDust, fdisk -l | pastebinit
[19:02] <bs> You are trying to send an empty document, exiting
[19:02] <ruser> bs:  you need to specify block device
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> bs  it'xs sudo fdisk -l
[19:03] <ruser> bs:  ignore me :)
[19:03] <bs> MonkeyDust, http://paste.ubuntu.com/792002/
[19:04] <MonkeyDust> bs  if the devices are in fstab, you need to do sudo mount -a
[19:05] <bs> MonkeyDust, i did sudo mount -a and the partiosn did not appear yet
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> if they are not, you can mount them manually
[19:05] <bs> MonkeyDust, how?
[19:05] <AFD> MonkeyDust: sorry to badger you - will that code grab my home folder as well as the apps and settings? or do I copy (or deja dup) the home folder as well as running that code?
[19:06] <acidfrost> wado, if it doesn't work you need drivers for your audio card
[19:06] <nvz> well the installing windows chrome to solve flash issues is definately a bust.. using either POL or just wine, new, old or any version of chrome.. none work
[19:06] <MonkeyDust> mkdir blah;sudo mount /dev/sda5/ blah
[19:06] <baskak> hi, i need help with swap on 11.10. it is not working, though it does exist. it seems, that there's a wrong uuid in fstab, is that right? http://paste.ubuntu.com/792007/
[19:06] <MonkeyDust> bs mkdir blah;sudo mount /dev/sda5/ blah
[19:06] <ruser> AFD: nope copy /etc and /home
[19:07] <ruser> AFD:  the cript is jsut replicating package setup
[19:07] <AFD> ruser: I think there may be things stored in .local too no?
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> AFD  no, you must backup your home folder
[19:07] <ruser> AFD: .local where?
[19:07] <wado> acidfrost and if it work ?
[19:07] <acidfrost> then you have a configuration issue wado
[19:08] <ruser> wado: if it works under livecd the issue lie than with either ocnfiguration of your current setup or missing/wrong driver
[19:08] <ruser> acidfrost: maybe he needs lkm loaded? for it?
[19:08] <AFD> ruser:  /home/.local
[19:08] <acidfrost> ruser, its possible
[19:08] <ruser> AFD:  if you backup /home  .local will be included
[19:08] <AFD> ruser:  duh!
[19:09] <AFD> ruser: facepalm*
[19:09] <ruser> AFD:  what's in /home/.local anyways?  first time i hear about it
[19:09] <AFD> I'm running ElementaryOS and it's based on Ubuntu... all I know is that there are a few things outside of /home/ but maybe they are all in /etc/
[19:10] <ruser> do people not use raid in here?
[19:10] <acidfrost> ruser, this isn't really the channel to ask
[19:11] <ruser> acidfrost: i guess i'll try linux but they will boo me out :)
[19:11] <acidfrost> ruser, like i said earlier #linux will be able to help a lot more
[19:11] <wado> ruser acidfrost how to  detect and solve these configuration issue?
[19:11] <ruser> wado: have you confirmed it's working with livecd?
[19:11] <stepnjump> Often times, I edit text files and want to print the date to it by pressing CTRL SHFT D (for date). The terminal command is date. I tried echo date, date in keyboard shortcut nothing works...
[19:12] <ruser> wado: what's your soundcard?
[19:12] <Lunar_Lander> hello and happy new year
[19:12] <acidfrost> stepnjump, echo `date`
[19:12] <wado> ati
[19:12] <Lunar_Lander> got a question on software-center
[19:12] <wado> ruser acidfrost ati
[19:12] <acidfrost> stepnjump, those are back ticks located on the key with the tilda
[19:12] <Lunar_Lander> when I want to download Lyx for instance it says that there are no comments available
[19:12] <stepnjump> thanks acidfrost
[19:12] <ruser> wado: more specific?  didn't know ari manufactured sound cards (cc: acidfrost )
[19:12] <Lunar_Lander> but several weeks ago, there were some
[19:13] <acidfrost> wado, i'm pretty sure that ati doesn't make sound cards
[19:13] <Lunar_Lander> on Inkscape it is the same
[19:13] <Lunar_Lander> (for german comments at least)
[19:13] <ruser> a/ari/ati/
[19:13] <acidfrost> but i could be wrong
[19:13] <Lunar_Lander> do they remove the comments when a new version of a programme is released?
[19:14] <wado> wait a sec
[19:14] <acidfrost> Lunar_Lander, most of the packages in software center don't have comments yet
[19:14] <Lunar_Lander> yes
[19:14] <Lunar_Lander> but I remember, Lyx and Inkscape had
[19:14]  * MonkeyDust away from keyboard
[19:14] <acidfrost> 11.10 sfc should have alot more than 10.4 should have
[19:14] <wado> ruser acidfrost  HDA Intel
[19:14] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[19:14] <glenn> heuuu?
[19:14] <Lunar_Lander> I am on 11.10
[19:14] <acidfrost> wado, ahh thats makes more sense
[19:15] <Lunar_Lander> but that shouldn't mean that the software in there is broken or so, right?
[19:15] <ruser> wado: is is a dell?
[19:15] <ruser> s/is is/is it/
[19:15] <glenn> heu wtf is going on hey hello what is that?
[19:15] <wado> ruser acidfrost  it is toshiba satellite l655
[19:15] <acidfrost> wado, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[19:16] <Lunar_Lander> acidfrost: so the software in the Center is OK?
[19:16] <Younder> Anyone interested in a security Enhanced version of Ubuntu (selinux)?
[19:16] <ruser> wado:   /etc/modprobe.d/50-sound.conf   options snd-hda-intel model=ideapad position_fix=1   options snd slots=snd-hda-intel alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
[19:16] <ruser> wado: or what acidfrost said
[19:16] <acidfrost> Lunar_Lander, yes
[19:17] <Lunar_Lander> thanks
[19:17] <Younder> The current one sucks but I will try to integrate it fully with the existing tools.
[19:17] <Guest1561> i thought ubuntu was secure
[19:17] <wado> ruser acidfrost ok, i'll read this
[19:17] <acidfrost> wado, try ruser 's first
[19:17] <Younder> It should just be a safer linux..
[19:17] <wado> ruser acidfrost ok
[19:17] <ruser> wado: each options line on separate line.
[19:18] <Younder> safety concern anyone here?
[19:18] <ruser> acidfrost: lol #linux is just as silent
[19:18] <acidfrost> heh
[19:18] <acidfrost> software raid is one of those rarely used topics
[19:18] <acidfrost> *things
[19:19] <ruser> acidfrost: yeah our dedi provider for w/e reason is using the raid1
[19:19] <acidfrost> Younder, why
[19:19] <wado> ruser i don't have this file, should i create it?
[19:19] <ruser> acidfrost: i'm just inheriting this from someone else
[19:19] <acidfrost> Younder, linux couldn't be safer to use
[19:19] <ruser> wado:  try /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base instead
[19:19] <wado> ok
[19:20] <acidfrost> ruser, i've never dealt with raid because i always found it a PITA to setup
[19:20] <ruser> acidfrost: the same
[19:20] <excelsior> I have a few computers with wireless USB NIC cards, and the non-admin accounts have trouble accessing the router every time.
[19:20] <plotino> acidfrost,
[19:20] <acidfrost> i did once have a raid0 machine that i had bought from a friend but i toasted that after one of the drives failed
[19:20] <plotino> i dont fix my problem
[19:20] <ruser> wado: hwen you edit run sudo alsa force-reload
[19:20] <Younder> acidfrost, To protect corporate computers from Chinese and Russian attacks. The information loss was 30 billion last year.
[19:20] <x3no> ruser: how to run wine as root?
[19:20] <acidfrost> plotino, could you restate it its been like an hour so i've forgotten
[19:21] <ruser> x3no: sudo wine ?
[19:21] <plotino> i have purge nvidia-96 e nvidia-173 abd i have
[19:21] <ruser> x3no: i wouldn't run it as root though
[19:21] <plotino> only nvidia-current installed
[19:21] <motherbrain> I know the uuid/guid can be used to uniquely identify a harddrive, and mac address can be used to uniquely identify a network card. I am wondering if their is an equivalent for cd/dvd/bluerray/optical devices and other computer hardware such as cpu , motherboard,soundcard,graphics card/gpu, power suppy?
[19:21] <acidfrost> plotino, have you blacklisted noveau
[19:21] <dr3mro> hello , I am ubuntu user and wondering how to prevent network manager from locking the usb modem /dev/ttyUSB0 so i can access it to check sms while i am connected to internet
[19:21] <acidfrost> !repeat | motherbrain
[19:21] <x3no> ruser: writes that i do not own /root/.wine,  i need root rights only for one program
[19:21] <wado> ruser i add those lines to the top or the bottom?
[19:21] <plotino> but using nvidia-xconfig X is unable to start
[19:22] <plotino> i have removed noueau
[19:22] <ruser> motherbrain: aslmost all hardware has some sort of ID's  MACs on ethernet cards can be modified though
[19:22] <Younder> acidfrost, Admittedly most of that was windows, but toughing up Ubuntu also helps.
[19:22] <acidfrost> plotino, no i said to black list it
[19:22] <dr01dy> can someone help me with maybe a easy fix I can't get apt-get update to work any longer
[19:22] <excelsior> I have a few computers with wireless USB NIC cards, and the non-admin accounts have trouble accessing the router every time. Essentially, I have to type in the wireless password, hit enter, and then I'm asked for the password for the "keyring" (no password works, but hitting escape allows the computer to connect.) Ideally, the computers should connect automatically. Any thoughts?
[19:22] <dr01dy> I get failed to fetch messages
[19:23] <ruser> wado:  end of the file
[19:23] <Younder> So NSA came up with a safer kernel about 2000 and now is the time to use it, I think...
[19:23] <x3no> ruser: i cant do sudo wine in terminal, it writes that i do not own root/.wine
[19:23] <ruser> x3no: wine probably drops priviliges to wine account.
[19:24] <baskak> hi, i need help with swap on 11.10. it is not working, though it does exist. it seems, that there's a wrong uuid in fstab, is that right? http://paste.ubuntu.com/792007/
[19:24] <cypher-neo> motherbrain, You can see the id's of all the devices on your system with "lspci
[19:24] <ruser> x3no: as i mentioned before i'm no expert on wine, i havne't used it in 5 years.
[19:24] <acidfrost> Younder, i don't really care about safety for the simple fact average everyday users will never have the smarts to get past even the simplest of firewalls
[19:24] <dr01dy> getthing this when I apt-get update http://paste.ubuntu.com/792028/
[19:24] <edwardthefma> hey all
[19:24] <excelsior> I have a few computers with wireless USB NIC cards, and the non-admin accounts have trouble accessing the router every time. Essentially, I have to type in the wireless password, hit enter, and then I'm asked for the password for the "keyring" (no password works, but hitting escape allows the computer to connect.) Ideally, the computers should connect automatically. Any thoughts?
[19:25] <motherbrain> well, I know in microsoft under device manager I think you can use device id's to unquiely identify a device. But I am not sure and curious if those device ids will be the same if you boot into a different os's such as ubuntu or an linux distro...because that maybe a way to unquiely identify hardware
[19:25] <cypher-neo> motherbrain, "lspci -nn" will show you both the name and numbers of the devices
[19:25] <owenll> excelsior: have you ticked the box "available to all users" in the network settings
[19:25] <ruser> Younder: what are yo utring to harden against?
[19:25] <wado> ruser done, what is next?
[19:25] <excelsior> owenll: how do I access that? log in as admin?
[19:25] <ruser> wado: sudo alsa force-reload
[19:25] <Younder> ruser : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security-Enhanced_Linux
[19:25] <excelsior> owenll: I'll check that...
[19:25] <wado> ruser done, next?
[19:25] <ruser> Younder: you are not answering my question
[19:25] <edwardthefma> i want to put a bandwith cap on my xbuntu laptop
[19:25] <acidfrost> motherbrain, UIDS for drives will be consistent across os's as its hardcoded to the board
[19:26] <ruser> wado: try headphones again
[19:26] <acidfrost> Younder, ubuntu uses SElinux
[19:26] <owenll> excelsior: no but you will need the admin password to change the settings
[19:26] <ruser> x3no: did you add wine to relative groups?  and restarted wine?
[19:26] <Mmike> Hi, Where do I find ubuntu installation log? I'm trying to install 11.10, and it seems stuck at 'installing system'....
[19:26] <acidfrost> edwardthefma, you'd have to see if your router supports limiting bandwith
[19:27] <ruser> Mmike: are you running install right now?
[19:27] <Younder> acidfrost, yeah right,
[19:27] <x3no> ruser: i dont kno how to add
[19:27] <ruser> Mmike: was it a fresh install?
[19:27] <wado> ruser it worked :) thanks a lot
[19:27] <acidfrost> Younder, don't believe me check /
[19:27] <ruser> wado: you are welcome
[19:27] <Mmike> ruser, yeps, on another box, fresh install, nothing on the drive
[19:27] <wado> ruser but the microphone doesn't work :(
[19:27] <ruser> Mmike: jsut try swtiching to different consoles  by pressing ctrl+alt+f1
[19:27] <ruser> wado:  you didn't ask about the microphone :)
[19:27] <Mmike> eh, stupid :) didn't think of that :) thnx
[19:27] <motherbrain> currently I don't have the ability to shutdown this system and boot into device manager to see if these device id's I get from lspci -nn are the same as the ones on in the device manager. Anybody know for sure?
[19:28] <acidfrost> ruser, if you saw the link i posted you'd know that getting the microphone working is pretty tough
[19:28] <schnuffle> edwardthefma: wondershaper is a tool to do traffic shaping
[19:28] <wado> ruser ok now i do :)
[19:28] <ruser> Mmike:  f1 f2 f3 f4
 ok thx
[19:28] <acidfrost> wado, here is that link again for reference https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[19:28] <Negat1ve-Zer0> anyone know what this is, when I do 'll' I see a directory like: d?????????  ? ?    ?        ?                ? .gvfs/ ?
[19:29] <Mmike> ruser, just login prompt, no logs or any other info. And Install window is stuck at 'installing system'. I see in dpkg.log that the last package installed is/was libc-bin
[19:29] <Negat1ve-Zer0> and that looks very strange to me
[19:29] <Mmike> unity is working, just the progresbar seems stuck
[19:29] <Mmike> I know there was a log file from the isntaller, I just can't find it
[19:29] <motherbrain> Also would these device id's be different if somebody bought the same computer and same hardware in a store...?
[19:29] <wado> ruser about the mic?
[19:30] <meagain> Hi anybody know about proxychains
[19:30] <wado> acidfrost thank you
[19:30] <ruser> Negat1ve-Zer0: sounds like the files is some sort of unicode locale, you need to get the locales working
[19:30] <ruser> !locale | Negat1ve-Zer0
[19:30] <motherbrain> like say I bought 2 HP computers same make and model and same hardware in them would they have the same device id's because this is no good if that is the case
[19:30] <empy> NUJEN MIX!!!!
[19:31] <Mmike> ok, it just finished :)
[19:31] <meagain> Hi, Im traying to connect through a proxy server and the proxychains.... I find a good working proxy but when i run proxychains i see on the shell that it goes from the good proxy to 4.2.2.2:53 . that is an ip I have never assigned
[19:31] <Negat1ve-Zer0> ruser: I don't think so... none of the permissions are visible on the directory all the info is not visible, that line was the output of ll
[19:31] <ruser> is someone proficient with software raid and new grub?  can you help me sort out the intall for grub?   http://pastebin.com/p8cfpgBj  where does grub have to go to?
[19:32] <ruser> Negat1ve-Zer0: is it a mount to other FS than ext2 or ext3
[19:33] <empy> NUJEN MIX!!!!
[19:33] <empy> daite mix plz
[19:33] <Anonymou5> #AnonOps
[19:33] <ruser> empy: ??
[19:33] <ruser> !ru | empy
[19:33] <ramquestion> hey any1 good with laptops?
[19:33] <schnuffle> ruser: what kind of RAID? If you have a RAID1 it's a good thing to write grub to both disks. If one fails you can still boot from the second
[19:34] <ruser> !ask | ramquestion
[19:34] <ramquestion> hey any1 good with laptops?
[19:34] <ruser> schnuffle: wow, finaly someone,  yes it's raid1
[19:34] <ruser> !ask | ramquestion
[19:34] <empy> кинь мне ip TeamSpeak3 и серв кс 1.6
[19:34] <ruser> schnuffle: can you see the pastebin?
[19:34] <stepnjump> acidfrost: echo `date`  doesn't work in keyboard shortcuts
[19:34] <ruser> !ru | empy
[19:35] <schnuffle> ruser: yes just checking it more closely
[19:35] <ramquestion> !ask is it normal if my cpu-ID tells me I run in cas latency 7 my new 8gb rams of 9 latency
[19:35] <ruser> schnuffle: i inherited this from someone else not sure why they used raid to begin
[19:35] <empy> kto so mnoi mix game?
[19:36] <acidfrost> ramquestion, !ask is a ubottu command and its meant to inform users who ask a question to see if they can ask a question
[19:36] <ruser> ramquestion: don't see an issue there is differnet kinds of timings,  and i thought cpu-id is a windows utility?
[19:36] <frots> guys, I lost reboot
[19:36] <schnuffle> ruser: I just had a disk failing in my root server and with RAID1 I had no downtime
[19:36] <frots> how can I reboot now?
[19:36] <pato__patrix> #/server irc.iranserv.com
[19:36] <Negat1ve-Zer0> ruser: oh, nvm I couldn't see it when sudo'd to root, but for some reason it's visible to me as a normal user (its a dir in my home dir) but it seems strange that I can't even look at it as root
[19:36] <ruser> frots: sudo reboot
[19:36] <acidfrost> frots, in terminal type sudo reboot
[19:36] <wado> rucer acidfrost something happened after I edited the configurations, the youtube videos is muted ???
[19:36] <pnorman> I use software RAID and grub, but it all got setup when I installed
[19:36] <schnuffle> ruser:  so which from the disks failed sda/b?
[19:37] <frots> sudo: reboot: command not found
[19:37] <ramquestion> !ask is it normal if my cpu-ID tells me I run in cas latency 7 my new 8gb rams of 9 latency
[19:37] <ruser> wado: restart the browser?
[19:37] <acidfrost> wado reference that link again
[19:37] <frots> ruser & acidfrost : sudo: reboot: command not found
[19:37] <acidfrost> frots, did you change your PATH env at all ?
[19:37] <stepnjump> acidfrost, is it possible I am forgetting something? echo `date`
[19:37] <trism> stepnjump: try installing xclip and instead use: echo $(date) | xclip; then middle click the document
[19:37] <frots> what is my path env?
[19:37] <ramquestion> ruser...?
[19:37] <ramquestion> !ask is it normal if my cpu-ID tells me I run in cas latency 7 my new 8gb rams of 9 latency
[19:37] <trism> stepnjump: you may need to create a bash script for this to work correctly in a keyboard shortcut
[19:37] <acidfrost> stepnjump, echo `date` (>) this overrides all data in the file or (>>) to append
[19:37] <stepnjump> thanks trism. I will try it
[19:38] <ruser> stepnjump: echo $(date)
[19:38] <frots> acidfrost?
[19:38] <stepnjump> thanks ruser. Will try it now
[19:38] <ruser> asterisc: even better echo $(/bin/date)
[19:38] <CharlieSu> Filesystem recommendation for tons of small files?  xfs, ext3/4, reiserfs?   I'm finding that when i'm trying to move files to a new filesystem (rsync) that thanks are running super slow...
[19:38] <acidfrost> stepnjump, echo `date` > somenewfile or echo `date` >> somefileiwantappended
[19:38] <GeForce88> how do you get the icon from the unity bar on the left to the desktop? i got a full bar and an empty desktop.
[19:38] <ft_mn> Hi, Im traying to use proxychains. So i found a good proxy from the internet (79.170.50.25:80 im sure its working), I have configured the /etc/proxychains.conf  and then what i do is proxychains firefox site.com   bu th thing is i get these on the shell:  |D-chain|-<>-79.170.50.25:80-<><>-4.2.2.2:53-<--timeout
[19:38] <wado> ruser right, then what about the mic? and may you explain me what the problem was?
[19:38] <llutz> echo $(date) > somefile   does the same as "date > somefile"  so why echo?
[19:38] <frots> CharlieSu: reiser is best for small things
[19:39] <Anonymou5> #AnonNet
[19:39] <ruser> llutz: it depends on a question.  i think he want's a workign keyabord macro
[19:39] <ruser> llutz: actually i wans't paying attention to a discussion
[19:39] <Crossdiver> --- excuse me ----
[19:39] <CharlieSu> frots: ok i'll try that..   just not sure i need a journaled filesystem for this
[19:39] <Negat1ve-Zer0>   ruser: actually...it makes no sense, I can't see any info about that dir as root...and I can't chown it either
[19:39] <frots> acidfrost: I now read that shutdown -r should do the same, but it is also gone
[19:39] <ft_mn> The 4.2.2.2 is an ip I have never assigned, why is it pressented on the proxychains?
[19:39] <Crossdiver> is this the right place for a server support question?
[19:39] <ruser> Negat1ve-Zer0: stat dirname
[19:40] <ruser> !ask | Crossdiver
[19:40] <bs> what is the best clint for yahoo and msn that allow me to use voice and webcam
[19:40] <llutz>  Negat1ve-Zer0  ~/.gvfs is a special folder used by gvfs, be carefull with it
[19:40] <acidfrost> frots, i'd assume you effed your PATH env up or you removed /bin/
[19:40] <Crossdiver> ruser thanks
[19:40] <ft_mn> Hi, Im traying to use proxychains. So i found a good proxy from the internet (79.170.50.25:80 im sure its working), I have configured the /etc/proxychains.conf  and then what i do is proxychains firefox site.com   bu th thing is i get these on the shell:  |D-chain|-<>-79.170.50.25:80-<><>-4.2.2.2:53-<--timeout..............The 4.2.2.2 is an ip I have never assigned, why is it pressented on the proxychains?
[19:40] <stepnjump> no guys, I'm trying to make it so that whenever I press CTRL SHFT D, it will print the date and time in a gedit file acidfrost trism
[19:40] <frots> acidfrost: isnt reboot supposed to be in sbin ?
[19:40] <ruser> wado: the problem was the kernel didn't load correct driver for the sound
[19:41] <acidfrost> frots, maybe
[19:41] <ruser> schnuffle: non of the drives failed, but i'm doing dist-upgrade to oneirc and grub was asking where to install
[19:41] <acidfrost> frots, yes it is
[19:41] <ruser> acidfrost: frots /sbin/reboot
[19:41] <Negat1ve-Zer0> llutz: so that's why I can't see it as root? it's just the only time I've ever seen a file that was practically invisible/untouchable as root
[19:41] <schnuffle> ruser: /dev/sda would be the correct choice
[19:41] <pnorman> ft_mn: that's the IP of a DNS server, and I think port 53 is the DNS port - google reveals it's a common DNS server to use but should really only be usedif you're on Level3
[19:41] <frots> ruser / acidfrost: ls: cannot access /sbin/reboot: No such file or directory
[19:41] <acidfrost> frots, do echo $PATH and paste bin the results
[19:41] <frots> :( :( :(
[19:42] <llutz> Negat1ve-Zer0: afaik yes, only the user can use/see it
[19:42] <frots> /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/opt/java/jre/bin:/usr/bin/vendor_perl:/usr/bin/core_perl:/home/frits/bin:/usr/local/bin:/home/frits/bin:/usr/local/bin:/home/frits/bin:/usr/local/bin
[19:42] <trism> stepnjump: if it is just gedit, Edit/Insert Time and Date (at least in oneiric)
[19:42] <Crossdiver> On ubuntu 11.10 server, the boot process is hanging at "Stopping system v runlevel compatibility" -- most of the guides that I read suggest that you install X11 and the GTK Greeter... but I do not want a GUI on this server... just the CLI. How do I get the server to boot all the way, but not install a GUI? Thanks...
[19:42] <acidfrost> frots, and do ls /bin/ and ls /usr/sbin/
[19:42] <ruser> frots: resintall upstart  package
[19:42] <acidfrost> frots, but paste bin it
[19:42] <frots> acidfrost: if I do ls /sbin/reboot, there is nothing there
[19:43] <ft_mn> pnorman: What is Level3?
[19:43] <pnorman> ft_mn: A network
[19:43] <acidfrost> frots, then something deleted your reboot
[19:43] <Negat1ve-Zer0> llutz: ok, thanks
[19:43] <frots> acidfrost: WTF?
[19:43] <frots> how is that possible?
[19:43] <frots> Am I hacked
[19:43] <acidfrost> frots, or you might have deletd it as root
[19:43] <ft_mn> pnorman: net Company u mean?
[19:43] <schnuffle> ruser: and afterwards you install it to /dev/sdb as well, otherwise it might happen that you can't reboot with a failed disk
[19:43] <frots> why would I do that
[19:43] <stepnjump> trism, whenever I press a key, whichever app I use, I would like to type the date using this macro. Not just gedit. Besides I don't want to press 3 different buttons to get my date, juste one key and it's there.. When I was in Windows, I used to have an app called macro express. It was working great
[19:43] <acidfrost> frots, if you have root you have 100% absolute control and you can delete anything
[19:43] <ruser> frots: resintall upstart  package (cc acidfrost )
[19:44] <frots> ruser: thanks
[19:44] <frots> I'll first try a simple reboot
[19:44] <acidfrost> frots, hmm never knew about that ofcourse i've never deleted anything in /sbin/ , /usr/sbin/, /bin/
[19:44] <motherbrain> what do you guys/girls think is the hardest linux distro/os to get good at. I am assuming arch and gentoo but are their harder then that apart from just building your own linux from scratch distro
[19:44] <ruser> schnuffle: why sda abd sdb?  check the output the are 1.4T  while boot is on separate dm2 i think
[19:44] <acidfrost> *ruser
[19:44] <pnorman> ft_mn: I think you'd be best off finding the support channel for proxychains as it doesn't seem to be a ubuntu issue. Level3 is/was a major network
[19:45] <trism> stepnjump: I'm sure it is possible but I have no idea off the top of my head, my best idea is the first one I gave with xclip
[19:45] <Oer> !poll | motherbrain
[19:45] <stepnjump> yes ok trism thanks...
[19:45] <ruser> stepnjump: did my  command work?
[19:45] <ft_mn> pnorman: the proxy is from saud arabia, im from europe and even when i use proxychains  like: proxychains ssh "host in europe" I get the same message... No US involved at all
[19:46] <acidfrost> motherbrain, to answer your question gentoo is probably the hardest, but building your own is definitely harder, arch is somewhat difficult if you've never used linux before
[19:46] <pnorman> ft_mn: try sshing to an IP.
[19:46] <schnuffle> ruser: because the bios doesn't know anything about soft raid. It just loads some sectors from the disk configured in the BIOPS settings and executes it. So to get grub running the initial code must go the configured disk MBR.
[19:47] <bs> what is the best clint for yahoo and msn that allow me to use voice and webcam
[19:47] <ruser> schnuffle: how did you make the guess mbr is on sda?
[19:47] <ruser> schnuffle: actually i guess it's a silly question
[19:47] <BangBusRUs> Anybody help me with fdisk please just want to see what size my partitions are set to and partition a partition ?
[19:48] <schnuffle> ruser: Because the default BIOS settings are to boot from the first disk present that is /dev/sda
[19:48] <ruser> BangBusRUs: fd -h
[19:48] <BangBusRUs> OK
[19:48] <ruser> BangBusRUs: fd -h  rather
[19:48] <ruser> aRGH
[19:48] <ruser> s/fd/df/
[19:48] <motherbrain> acidfrost , thank you
[19:48] <BangBusRUs> nope command not found
[19:48] <aeon-ltd> BangBusRUs: df
[19:49] <acidfrost> pfft figures they always leave before i can say something lmao
[19:49] <stepnjump> trism, I installed xclip and ran echo $(date) | xclip.. nothing happens
[19:49] <ruser> BangBusRUs: i made a type 2ce in a row.  it's df -h
[19:49] <BangBusRUs> ok now what?
[19:49] <owenll> bs: http://live.gnome.org/Empathy
[19:49] <ft_mn> pnorman: Still the same
[19:49] <BangBusRUs> df -h
[19:49] <anirban> Hello guys. I am desparate to find a good terminal pong game. I can't get the depot game to run, as there's a problem with my allgro. :( Any help?
[19:49] <ruser> schnuffle: fdisk -l /dev/sda doesn't show bootable flag though, right now. is that normal?
[19:50] <BangBusRUs> ok thx got it
[19:50] <acidfrost> any how later i can barely keep up with the questions ;p
[19:50] <ruser> acidfrost: lol i came to ask a question about grub 4 hours ago and still here helping others, while myself stuck witouht any help :)
[19:50] <ft_mn> pnorman: Still the same
[19:50] <ft_mn> oh sorry
[19:51] <ruser> acidfrost: actually schnuffle is trying
[19:51] <acidfrost> ruser, yeah
[19:51] <stepnjump> ruser, no didn't work
[19:51] <urlin2u> ruser, what is the grub problem?
[19:51] <acidfrost> hmm i'm thinking about writing an bot to direct all questions to lmgtfy
[19:51] <pnorman> ft_mn: You'd be best off looking for a support channel for the software you're using I think
[19:52] <ruser> urlin2u: i inherited an ubuntu dedicated box with raid1. perofriming oneirc update and not sure how to deal with raid and grub on it.
[19:52] <bs> how can i open the application without using ubuntu utility plugin
[19:52] <ft_mn> pnorman: I think you are right. Thank you for your time though!!!
[19:52] <meerkats> are .rpm extracted and built as .tar.gz's?
[19:52] <trism> stepnjump: I got it! http://paste.ubuntu.com/792055/ copy that to a bash script someplace and make it executable, then set your keyboard shortcut to the script, and install xclip and xdotool (works here), copies the text to the clipboard and then simulates a middle click on the current window
[19:52] <schnuffle> ruser: then check /dev/sdb. if that is bootable then write grub to it. Then it means that either the BIOS settings points to dev/sdb or it has /dev/sdb as second option in the boot priorities. That makes sense. But to have a fault tolerant system you need both to be bootable
[19:52] <dr01dy> figured out my apt-get issues
[19:53] <shades> I have a 10.10 mavrick iso but for some reason I can't seem to install off of it.... It should have apache and php on there, right?
[19:53] <dr01dy> I wish I can upgrade off of Jaunty
[19:53] <ruser> urlin2u:   http://pastebin.com/p8cfpgBj   that's the  question.  if i dont' get it right i'll have to scrap the entire box and re-setup up
[19:53] <acidfrost> shades, no apache and php are seperate packages
[19:54] <ruser> schnuffle: yeah, i understand but actually fdisk lists neither as bootable
[19:54] <urlin2u> ruser, I'm not raid knowledgeable.
[19:54] <ruser> schnuffle: which is odd :)
[19:54] <shades> acidfrost, right but are they on the 10.10 install cd?
[19:54] <acidfrost> shades, you'd have to install them seperately
[19:54] <ruser> urlin2u: yeah, the same here
[19:54] <ruser> shades: yes they should be
[19:54] <shades> i can't seem to isntall anything off this install cd via the pckage manager while I'm in x, but it is a vm so....
[19:54] <acidfrost> ruser, they shouldn'tbe on the 10.10 live cd
[19:54] <schnuffle> ruser: Ooops. error from my part. Of course none is marked bootable, bacause your boot partition is /dev/md2
[19:54] <trism> stepnjump: you may want to replace: date | xclip; with echo -n $(date) | xclip; otherwise you get a newline too
[19:55] <acidfrost> ruser, maybe on the ubuntu server live cd but not on the desktop live cd
[19:55] <ruser> schnuffle: so.  where does grub should sintall to? :)
[19:55] <ruser> acidfrost: oh i htought install CD not liveCD
[19:55] <schnuffle> ruser: /dev/sda and /dev/sdb
[19:55] <acidfrost> ruser, well technically the live cd is the install cd
[19:56] <ruser> schnuffle: actually that's making sense, grub has knowldge of raid, right?
[19:56] <acidfrost> but the server cd and the desktop/netbook iso's do not contain apache or php
[19:56] <schnuffle> ruser: as normally dev/sda is marked as first boot device in the BIOS. Write it to /dev/sda first
[19:56] <ruser> acidfrost: it's been a while, i ususlaly use netsintall images, if anything
[19:56] <acidfrost> *meant to say the server and netbook/desktop aren completely different
[19:57] <acidfrost> *are
[19:57] <acidfrost> jesus i need sleep
[19:57] <onixx1> anybody very familiar with scripts/caper of initrd.lz ? I need to add a level of read only fs just before the tmpfs using unionfs-fuse and need some guidance
[19:57] <meerkats> are .rpm extracted and built as .tar.gz's?
[19:57] <oCean> !rpm | meerkats
[19:57] <meerkats> a, ok
[19:58] <_PhaseR_> hello, does anyone know about a good guide about using hybrid graphics in ubuntu 11.10? I have an msi cx620 laptop with an intel and ati mobility radeon hd 5470
[19:58] <oCean> meerkats: note the "not supported" please
[19:58] <acidfrost> onixx1, you'd be better of asking on #linux
[19:58] <ruser> schnuffle: how do i find out version of grub intalled and whether grub has knowledge of raid to load md2?
[19:58] <meerkats> thankfully I opted for the tar.gz...
[19:58] <stepnjump> No, nothing seems to work unfortunately trism
[19:58] <meerkats> thx
[19:58] <crazydiamond> Hi. Can anyone tell me where DOOM3 stores it's resolution-to-restore, i.e. initial resolution?
[19:59] <schnuffle> ruser:  apt-cache show grub
[19:59] <acidfrost> !topic | crazydiamon
[19:59] <shades> and they should be under "websoftware" in packages.ubuntu.com/maverick?
[19:59] <onixx1> acidfrost: I believe scripts/casper is from ubuntu live so that is what bug me a bit...
[19:59] <ruser> schnuffle: but there is grub and grub2 packages, arent' tehre?
[19:59] <sskalnik> How would a system without dkms and build tools get kernel modules built for the correct kernel version?
[19:59] <acidfrost> crazydiamond, we can't help with DOOM3 but i'm pretty sure id has a channel on free node
[19:59] <ruser> schnuffle: besides i don't think it specifies wherehter it's installed or not
[19:59] <acidfrost> crazydiamond, you should ask alis /msg alis help
[20:00] <jess1> i just tried installing krb5-user using aptitude, and it remove all my packages.. any way to undo?
[20:00] <trism> stepnjump: odd, it is working here, try it from the command line first
[20:00] <crazydiamond> acidfrost: thx
[20:00] <schnuffle> ruser: then check which is installed: dpkg -l | grep grub
[20:00] <ruser> sskalnik: you'd use the makefile
[20:00] <sskalnik> ruser:  Eh?
[20:00] <acidfrost> onixx1, yes but casper is i'm pretty sure apart of all major distrobutions
[20:00] <stepnjump> trism the first one doesn't work either in the keyboard shortcuts.. Where could I test it's validity from X?
[20:01] <acidfrost> onixx1, ask there then if they can't answer maybe some of the super vets here could
[20:01] <GeForce88> how do you get the icon from the unity bar on the left to the desktop? i got a full bar and an empty desktop.
[20:01] <ruser> sskalnik: you'd use the makefiel that comes with the kernel source and manually configure it to compile appropraite modules
[20:01] <stepnjump> even trom the command line trism nothing works. I just installed xclip. Should I reboot?
[20:01] <sskalnik> ruser:  The build system would know for which kernels to build the module, but how would the target systems receive the correct one?
[20:01] <acidfrost> onixx1, theres always google too :P 9 times out of ten some one before you probably had the same problem
[20:01] <stepnjump> even trom the command line trism nothing works. I just installed xclip. Should I reboot? trism
[20:01] <trism> stepnjump: no, a reboot is unnecessary
[20:01] <jess1> any suggestions?
[20:01] <acidfrost> any how i really need to get off now its speeding up too much for me in here
[20:02] <ruser> sskalnik: not sure i follow the question than.   how would build know which modules to compile?
[20:02] <trism> stepnjump: you need xdotool as well for the script (with just xclip it will copy the text to the clipboard and you need to middle click the mouse to paste it)
[20:02] <trism> stepnjump: xdotool allows you to simulate the middle click, so you just need the keyboard shortcut
[20:02] <bs> how can i mount an iso image like if it's a dvd device?
[20:02] <onixx1> acidfrost: haha, thanks... I've been on google for the past 2 days on this one ;-) It all started with a buggy firefox on a rw NFS root filesystem !!
[20:03] <ruser> bs:  you'd mount using -o loop
[20:03] <bs> ruser, how i'm new to ubunu
[20:03] <schnuffle> ruser: forgot one answer: grub knows about RAID1 all other raid levels need a non RAID /boot partition
[20:03] <jess1> anyway to undo aptitude install? it remove all my packages??
[20:03] <shades> why are they making it so hard to find apache andphp on thier website?
[20:03] <sherorox> hey, I had a quick question. Is it possible to install 10.04 Server so it replaces my current 11.10 install?
[20:03] <ruser> bs:   mount -o loop disk1.iso /mnt/disk1
[20:03] <ruser> bs:  where disk1 is your mount target point
[20:03] <_jason> shades: who is "they"?
[20:04] <sskalnik> ruser:  I have a kernel module that I want to use on systems with no build environment. I have a build system that can create the module and pack it into a deb. But how would the target systems know which deb contained the correct module and not one built for another kernel version?
[20:04] <ruser> schnuffle: you would need to do full reinstall linux doens't go well with downgrades
[20:04] <shades> _jason: whoever maintains the ubuntupackages website
[20:04] <ruser> schnuffle: even grub  prior to grub2?
[20:04] <acidfrost> onixx1, now thats what i call nerdy 5 (90's - early 2000 reference)
[20:04] <bs> ruser, do you know how to put ubuntu unity plugin at the bottom not the left side?
[20:04] <shades> and there is no search function!
[20:04] <_jason> shades: it's not hard, just search for the package names you want... i.e. "apache" and "php"
[20:05] <GeForce88> how do you get the icon from the unity bar on the left to the desktop? i got a full bar and an empty desktop.
[20:05] <shades> they're not listed under subsection web, so where are they listed?
[20:05] <schnuffle> ruser: maybe newer grub versions know to handle other levels. Yes I've a CentOS5 server running in RAID1 with grub 1.X
[20:05] <stepnjump> Well this is too complex for me trism. I will try it some other time. Thanks though
[20:05] <ruser> bs:  nope i haven't used X in 5 years
[20:05] <sskalnik> shades:  There is a search function
[20:05] <_jason> shades: scroll the "search" section
[20:05] <trism> stepnjump: alright, sorry about that
[20:05] <owenll> GeForce88: http://askubuntu.com/questions/55408/in-unity-how-do-i-make-desktop-shortcuts-a-la-windows-osx
[20:05] <ruser> schnuffle: yeah i'm with raid1 from what i unserstand from the output
[20:05] <schnuffle> ruser: yes
[20:05] <ikonia> raid 1 is fully supported
[20:05] <shades> _jason:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/ I do not see one [search]
[20:05] <_jason> shades: packages.ubuntu.com
[20:05] <ft_mn> identify 1234556789
[20:05] <stepnjump> thanks though. I will try to do some googling when I have more time another day
[20:06] <ruser> sskalnik: oh, not sure. but if the you build a deb, than the dependancies should be linked in the deb, so i dont' think it's an issue
[20:06] <ruser> sskalnik: i'd ask someone more knowledgable though.
[20:06] <sskalnik> shades:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/ -> search
[20:06] <onixx1> acidfrost: maybe I should ask about my original issue...
[20:06] <oCean> !nickspam > unRar
[20:06] <bs> ruser, how to get the full bath of file in easy way
[20:06] <BangBusRUs> I ran the command on fdisk but I dont quite understand the results?
[20:07] <ruser> BangBusRUs: what are you trying to do?
[20:07] <unRar> yes yes
[20:07] <unRar> i end...
[20:07] <acidfrost> onixx1, that would help but do note that i'm techically away so i may or may not be able to help
[20:07] <Dalunatic> connect irc.anonops.li
[20:07] <acidfrost> :P
[20:07] <sskalnik> ruser:  Ah, so i should make each deb depend on a specific version?
[20:07] <sskalnik> ruser:  That makes sense.
[20:07] <BangBusRUs> Trying to see what size my partitions are?
[20:07] <jess1> how do you do undo aptitude install? when installing krb5-user, it remove all my packages
[20:07] <BangBusRUs> ruser
[20:08] <BangBusRUs> ruser Trying to see what size my partitions are?
[20:08] <sskalnik> !patience > BangBusRUs
[20:08] <BangBusRUs> my bad
[20:08] <ruser> BangBusRUs: df -h   should give you the size for every mountpoint. otherwise read the man page to understand the units.
[20:08] <sskalnik> BangBusRUs:  "dh"
[20:09] <BangBusRUs> mind if i copy and pasyte the results in pm?
[20:09] <bs> ruser, mount -o loop BROODWAR.iso /mnt/media/01CC6BF273362E10/eVo-Gamez-Sam10
[20:09] <bs> mount: only root can do that
[20:09] <ruser> sskalnik: you eamn df
[20:09] <ruser> bs:  sudo  mount -o loop BROODWAR.iso /mnt/media/01CC6BF273362E10/eVo-Gamez-Sam10
[20:09] <GeForce88> gnome3 will be the death of ubuntu. wait and see. unity is horrible
[20:09] <ruser> s/eamn/mean/
[20:09] <onixx1> I have a ubuntu live 11.04 cd with a modified inird that mounts the /cow filesystem over an NFS rw export for persistancy. All works fine and retain the changes made over and over... with 1 ISSUE... firefox (and only firefox) causes a kernel oops when quitting. any clues ? it does not crash in non persistant mode (tmpfs /cow instead of nfs /cow)
[20:09] <ruser> !pastebin | BangBusRUs
[20:09] <sskalnik> ruser:  Close but no cigar. Good call.
[20:09] <BangBusRUs> i did dh already but dont understand
[20:09] <bs> ruser, BROODWAR.iso: No such file or directory
[20:10] <ruser> bs:  give it full path to the iso
[20:10] <sskalnik> BangBusRUs:  df -h
[20:10] <BangBusRUs> ok thx
[20:10] <bs> ruser, how to get the full path
[20:10] <sskalnik> It will tell you the size, used, and free
[20:10] <ruser> bs:  where is your file located?
[20:11] <nzee> how to install libjpeg on ubuntu?
[20:11] <Dalunatic> anonops
[20:11] <BangBusRUs> http://pastebin.com/ybFR9ygU
[20:11] <bs> ruser, do i have to writ it? isn't there easy way like in windows we can copy address of the folder path
[20:11] <ruser> nzee: sudo  apt-get install libjpeg8
[20:12] <nzee> ruser, libjpeg8? or just libjpeg?
[20:12] <BangBusRUs> I posted the pastebin link for my fdisk results
[20:12] <BangBusRUs> http://pastebin.com/ybFR9ygU
[20:13] <Jessica1> anybody? ;)
[20:13] <ruser> BangBusRUs: first number is  partition size,  2nd one is how much is used, than how much is free, and than followed by percentage related
[20:13] <bs> ruser, is there an easy way to get file path?
[20:13] <ruser> BangBusRUs: for the first number gives you the parititon size
[20:13] <BangBusRUs> ok
[20:13] <ruser> bs: no,  you need to know where the file is
[20:13] <schnuffle> !anyone | Jessica1
[20:13] <bs> ruser, it's on sdb5
[20:14] <BangBusRUs> so my ubuntu is installed on around about 20gbs?
[20:14] <ruser> nzee: libjpeg8  there is also libjpeg62
[20:14] <ruser> BangBusRUs: can you repaste full output?
[20:15] <nzee> it says cudnt find package libjpeg8, ruser
[20:15] <ruser> nzee: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[20:15] <BangBusRUs> yes hold on please and thanks
[20:15] <acidfrost> oh wow i really wish that the netbook packages were more advertised
[20:15] <BangBusRUs> http://pastebin.com/Rq9Tr79W
[20:15] <nzee> ruser, 10.04
[20:15] <Jessica1> !details
[20:16] <Jessica1> !anyone
[20:16] <bs> BROODWAR.iso: No such file or directory
[20:16] <ikonia> bs: you are not in the directory where that file is
[20:16] <stefanos> hello, I have a problem with a usb hard drive, it is pluged in usb but can't open the files etc... the disk utility can "see" it but it is unknown
[20:16] <schnuffle> BangBusRUs: the entire linux system uses 4,5GB
[20:16] <ikonia> stefanos: what file system is on it
[20:16] <bs> ikonia, i'm in the driectry how to get the right path this ubuntu is new to me
[20:17] <ruser> bs: no your install roughly 5G + 428M of user files
[20:17] <ruser> whops
[20:17] <BangBusRUs> yea but i was told to get 20gb for ubuntu is that what i have?
[20:17] <ruser> BangBusRUs: no your install roughly 5G + 428M of user files
[20:17] <schnuffle> bs: the command pwd tells you the actual path
[20:17] <acidfrost> Jessica1, don't abuse ubottu please
[20:17] <ruser> schnuffle: it tells the current working directory :)
[20:17] <Jessica1> How do to undo aptitude remove?
[20:17] <pippo> ciao
[20:17] <ruser> Jessica1: aptitude install packagename
[20:18] <nzee> ruser, I am on ubuntu 10.04
[20:18] <ruser> nzee: sorry, one sec
[20:18] <Jessica1> acidfrost, sorry..was just reading all the rules
[20:18] <BangBusRUs> No i mean whats the size of my partition that has ubuntu on it?
[20:18] <schnuffle> BangBusRUs:  Yes your root system has 23GB and /usr has antoher 184GB
[20:18] <bs> schnuffle, what is the actual path..in windows it was partion E in ubuntu it's 785 Gb file system
[20:18] <stefanos> ikonia, the partition type is hpfs/ntfs the filesystem is -
[20:18] <ruser> nzee: try libjpeg62
[20:18] <BangBusRUs> ok
[20:18] <ikonia> stefanos: which is it, hpfs or ntfs
[20:18] <ruser> nzee: or apt-cache search libjpeg
[20:18] <ikonia> bs: where is the iso file
[20:19] <schnuffle> bs: in linux everythin starts with the root which is /
[20:19] <ruser> BangBusRUs: your finished install or your install media?
[20:19] <stefanos> ikonia, it says exaclty like that hpfs/ntfs
[20:19] <Jessica1> ruser: How to undo remove for all packages? I did a sudo aptitude install krb5-user (trying to install kerberos), and it remove all packages
[20:19] <ikonia> stefanos: what does ? I'm asking you - what file system is on it
[20:19] <BangBusRUs> dmy finished install
[20:19] <asterisc> Jessica1: sudo aptitude purge krb5-user
[20:20] <ruser> Jessica1: scroll back ot get the list of packages removed.  sudo aptitude purge krb5-user &&   sudo aptitude install list_of_packages
[20:20] <stefanos> ikonia,  can't figure out.. check this http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8074/screenshotsbc.png
[20:20] <Jessica1> asterisc: and that will reinstall all packages?
[20:20] <bs> schnuffle, when i press properties on the file i get this location '/media/01CC6BF273362E10/eVo-Gamez-Sam100'
[20:20] <asterisc> Jessica1: it will remove krb5-user + all its dependencies
[20:20] <BangBusRUs> i just wanted to find out what size my os has and format the user larger partition as my data backup partition
[20:21] <BangBusRUs> storage
[20:21] <asterisc> Jessica1: unless they are shared with other packages, of course
[20:22] <plotino> hi everybody
[20:22] <plotino> acidfrost,
[20:22] <plotino> the same
[20:22] <schnuffle> Jessica1: You can check your apt log file, see what was deleted and reinstall it it should be in /var/log/apt/history.log
[20:22] <acidfrost> plotino, yeah i'm here just /msg me
[20:22] <plotino> i dont get the video card properly working
[20:22] <plotino> ok
[20:22] <sayiamlikethewin> how do you view the channel log?
[20:23] <bs> ikonia, when i press properties on the file i get this location '/media/01CC6BF273362E10/eVo-Gamez-Sam100'
[20:23] <oCean> !1984 | sayiamlikethewin
[20:23] <meco> When starting Firefox with the -P option, should the profile be written with the preceding numbers or just the name that it has in ProfileManager?
[20:23] <ruser> oCean: nice command alias :)
[20:23] <shades> if I have all of the apache.deb files and I install the main one apache2, it'll install allthe dependencies in order?
[20:23] <ruser> bs: than it soulds like it's already mounted to /media/01CC6BF273362E10/eVo-Gamez-Sam100
[20:24] <ruser> bs:  or is that the directory where is your iso located?
[20:24] <Jessica1> asterisc: my ubuntu box was setup as a member of a domain, and after the bad install, remove everything, so i can't even log in
[20:24] <ruser> shades: i'm pretty sure it will, why not use the package manager?
[20:24] <oCean> shades: why do you have .deb files? Apache2 is in the repositories
[20:24] <bs> ruser, its the directory
[20:24] <schnuffle> shades: no, it will complain about missing dependencies as it doesn't know that the other packages are in the same directory
[20:24] <ruser> bs:  of where the ISO file is?
[20:25] <stefanos> ikonia, any idieas?
[20:25] <bs> ruser, yes
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[20:26] <Jessica1> asterisc: its stuck on checking running unattended-upgrades when loading.. i had to restart it because when the screen saver pop up, it wouldn't let me do anything
[20:26] <ruser> o.O really, floodbots
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[20:26] <asterisc> Jessica1: you mean, a MS Windows domain? As in active directory?
[20:26] <smittix> Hi all, does anyone know of a download manager that works with ubuntu that does segmented downloads?
[20:26] <SEEmyCAMMALE> a eyn
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[20:26] <ActionParsnip> smittix: jdownloader, fatrat, uget  maybe
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[20:26] <bs> how can i show print screen
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> smittix: I know axel does it of you give multiple sources for the same file
[20:26] <ruser> bs: sudo mkdir /mnt/disk1 && sudo  mount -o loop /media/01CC6BF273362E10/eVo-Gamez-Sam100/BROODWAR.iso /mnt/disk1
[20:26] <sayiamlikethewin> bittorrent?
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> bs: imageshack
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[20:27] <schnuffle> smittix: jdownloader http://jdownloader.org/
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[20:27] <smittix> schnuffle: I will try that thank's. I didn't realise that it did segmentation.
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[20:28] <Jessica1> asterisc: may i pm you?
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[20:28] <asterisc> Jessica1: for domain, you should work with samba/kerberos
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[20:28] <ruser> bs:  actually do me a favour run   ls -l /media/01CC6BF273362E10/eVo-Gamez-Sam100/BROODWAR.iso
[20:29] <FloodBot1> jizzle: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:29] <acidfrost> ruser, oh man he's setting up starcraft ?
[20:29] <ruser> acidfrost: looks like, lol.  i hope he doesn't ask about wine :))
[20:30] <ruser> BangBusRUs: you probably want to backup only /etc and /home
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> may help with starcraft: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=149
[20:30] <acidfrost> ruser, yeah i know
[20:30] <acidfrost> ruser, its not that hard to setup for single player but for multiplayer you might as well be coding a quantum physics calculator in assembly
[20:31] <ruser> bs:  actually do me a favour run   ls -l /media/01CC6BF273362E10/eVo-Gamez-Sam100/BROODWAR.iso
[20:31] <ruser> i wonder if that flood came from tor exit nodes
[20:31] <bs> ruser, -rw------- 1 bs bs 666251264 2007-03-26 01:15 /media/01CC6BF273362E10/eVo-Gamez-Sam100/BROODWAR.iso
[20:32] <theTroy> Hi! I connected extrenal screen to my VGA-out on laptop once, and all worked fine. When I connected it second time, now every time the external screen has purple colour. I checked it with another pc and it shows normal colours, but not when I connect it to the ubuntu machine. Ubuntu 10.04 Nvidia proprietary drivers
[20:32] <ruser> bs:  than run this    sudo mkdir /mnt/disk1 && sudo  mount -o loop /media/01CC6BF273362E10/eVo-Gamez-Sam100/BROODWAR.iso /mnt/disk1
[20:32] <bs> ruser, i did and it work now thanks
[20:32] <nzee> getting this error 'decoder jpeg not available'. Some prob with PIL i suppose. help!
[20:33] <ruser> theTroy: sounds like the connector isn't sticking too well. usually you get funky colours when that happens
[20:33] <bs> pidgin main menu wont to open
[20:33] <ruser> theTroy: try asjusting the connection
[20:33] <schnuffle> nzee: you need python-imaging. sudo apt-get install python -imaging
[20:33] <theTroy> ruser: it works under Vista on the same connector
[20:33] <theTroy> without purple tint
[20:34] <ruser> theTroy: than asjust the colors in the ubuntu.  dont' ask me wehre i ahven't used X in 5 eyars
[20:34] <ruser> acidfrost: if you are here wah't the location for monitor color correctio nsetup in ubuntu?
[20:34] <rcmaehl> Hello, I made a DBAN lave usb to nuke a certain hard disk however it started autonuking all my HDDs so I killed my pc power (DBAN was running for <3 seconds) and now my partitions don't show up. How do I fix this without lossing my data?
[20:35] <theTroy> thanks.. I guess Ill just connect it through hdmi... hdmi -> vga cables are cheap
[20:35] <shades> what's the local apt-get install command?
[20:35] <acidfrost> ruser, you shouldn't need to color correct your monitor
[20:36] <ruser> acidfrost: look what theTroy asked
[20:36] <schnuffle> shades: there's none but there's dpkg -i <package> to install package
[20:36] <acidfrost> oh your using hdmi
[20:36] <theTroy> I wasnt
[20:36] <theTroy> I am planning to now
[20:36] <acidfrost> hmm give me a little bit i'm kinda super multi tasking but ill look it up for you
[20:37] <marel> Is ubuntu on virtual machine going to be any slower than via dual boot ? I've 8GB of RAM
[20:37] <theTroy> thanks a lot, its not a big deal though, I guess I just will not use it under ubuntu :)
[20:37] <rcmaehl> Live usb*
[20:37] <schnuffle> shades: maybe I'm wrong there's gdebi to install packages
[20:37] <sskalnik> marel:  Yes, but depending on what you are doing with it, it is probably acceptable.
[20:37] <theTroy> marel: I run ubuntu under ubuntu in Vbox, the one in the VM is much slower, at least for me
[20:37] <ruser> marel: shoduln't be, but there is an overhead for fritualizer
[20:37] <ruser> virtualizer*
[20:37] <ruser> plus hwo's it is configured
[20:38] <meco> fredensborg@fredensborg:~/.mozilla/firefox$ firefox
[20:38] <meco> sh: getcwd() failed: No such file or directory
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> theTroy: have you asked in #vbox too
[20:38] <theTroy> ActionParsnip: nope, I never bothered with it, it is acceptable for the needs that I have
[20:38] <meco> What should I do? I just tried to reinstall firefox....
[20:38] <theTroy> but compared to host, it is about ~5-6 times slower
[20:38] <ruser> meco:  cd  ~&& firefox
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> theTroy: cool, I suggest you use lxde or xfce to make the VM more responsive
[20:39] <theTroy> ActionParsnip: Ill consider, thanks
[20:39] <ruser> meco: or cd && firefox rather
[20:39] <sskalnik> theTroy:  are the guest additions installed?
[20:39] <theTroy> sskalnik: yeah, guys, I really dont need help with Vbox :) I am happy with the way it is. Id rather get my external screen figured :)
[20:39] <nzee> schnuffle, installed python-imaging. still same error. no jpeg decoder
[20:39] <rcmaehl> is there any recovery tools?
[20:40] <ruser> rcmaehl: yes there are
[20:40] <sskalnik> rcmaehl:  http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[20:40] <ruser> nzee: restart your shell
[20:41] <rcmaehl> :\ I'm already on a ubuntu live cd
[20:41] <rcmaehl> is there any tools I can install in this live cd env?
[20:41] <schnuffle> nzee: can you paste your code?
[20:41] <nzee> ruser, u mean restart the system?
[20:41] <sskalnik> rcmaehl:  nvm then, looks like ruser is about to walk you through it.
[20:41] <ruser> nzee: no, just the shell.
[20:42] <ruser> sskalnik: no :)
[20:42] <ruser> sskalnik: i'm trying to get away from computer to make some food, lol
[20:42] <acidfrost> ill be back i'm switch desktop environments
[20:42] <Jordan_U> rcmaehl: Yes. Testdisk will likely help: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[20:43] <sebastian> hey guys, im running a Asus K53SV laptop, and was woundering how to disable my Nvidia GT540 graphic card to get a better battery lifetime, or any tips on how to make my battery time better, on windows i can run it on about 5 hours atleast on linux its like 2 hours
[20:43] <Argorok> Hello. I've just installed Ubuntu 11.10 x86 on my desktop and when installation finishes and I restart the computer, after the grub menu my display get "no signal" message... Looks like some resolution that the native driver doesn't support or something like that. I tryed to set nomodeset on grub instead of quiet splash and didn't help... Can anyone help me to solve it? I can't even get terminals (ctrl+alt+f1) to install nvidia drivers
[20:44] <skvernobot> =)
[20:44] <Jordan_U> rcmaehl: You may have irrecoverably damaged the first partition (though some file recovery should be possible, it won't be easy or complete), but any other partitions should be fine if you really only had it running for a few seconds.
[20:44] <nzee> ruser, did it. still same error
[20:44] <sskalnik> Argorok:  You might try nofb instead of / in addition to nomodeset
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> sebastian: possibly in BIOS
[20:44] <mellpatr> which the better RDP client for oneiric?
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> mellpatr: none and all
[20:44] <sebastian> ActionParsnip: thanks
[20:45] <Argorok> sskalnik, let me try, thank you
[20:45] <mellpatr> ahahh goood!!
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> mellpatr: there is no single best app for anything in any OS
[20:45] <mellpatr> =D
[20:45] <mellpatr> yes.. i agree..
[20:45] <mellpatr> i trying to install gnome-rdp
[20:45] <rcmaehl> Jordan_U: first partition of one disk was /boot which I might be able to reinstall. the other was a fairly large /home and I really don't have too much config in the first few dozen folders that I need
[20:46] <mellpatr> but dont work
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> mellpatr: rdesktop exists
[20:46] <Jordan_U> rcmaehl: Good. If it never made it to your /home/ partition then recovery of your /home partition should be almost trivial with testdisk.
[20:46] <mellpatr> Lets see...
[20:47] <sskalnik> How do I reset a serial port? I exited minicom without resetting the port and now it's "busy".
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> sskalnik: unload then reload the module maybe
[20:47] <sskalnik> rcmaehl:  if you are paranoid and have a spare disk, it might not hurt to dd the broken disk to a spare.
[20:48] <rcmaehl> Jordan_U: the live ubuntu cd is the 3.0 linux kernel and Testdisk only has a download for kernels 2.6.x and 2.4.x
[20:48] <ruser> sskalnik: rcmaehl it's a MUST.  before you do any recoveris backup exitisting disk
[20:48] <schnuffle> nzee: when I install python-imaging I get jpeg support, are you running a web instance in a virtualenv?
[20:48] <mellpatr> ActionParsnip: was missing the grdesktop package...
[20:48] <mellpatr> thanks man...
[20:48] <Argorok> sskalnik, didn't work... neither nomodeset nofb, neither only nofb
[20:48] <Jordan_U> rcmaehl: Install testdisk via Ubuntu Software Center.
[20:48] <ruser> nzee: sorry, not sure, going to eat now
[20:48] <rcmaehl> kk
[20:49] <Jordan_U> rcmaehl: You should almost never download software from a website when using GNU/Linux.
[20:49] <nzee> ok ruser. bon appetit :)
[20:49] <greenit> hi, i wanted to install diablo 2 on ubuntu, but when i run the setup with wine1.3 it says "please insert the install-cd", but i have inserted it....
[20:49] <sskalnik> Argorok:  all ttys (Ctrl Alt F2) blank?
[20:49] <DroidHost> where can i get a ISO of 11.04 64bit i dont care for 11.10 cause of the new Unity stuff and 10.04 is too old for what i am tring to do
[20:49] <Gentoo64> greenit: check that the cd drive it defined in the winecfg
[20:49] <schnuffle> nzee: because by default PIL gets installed without jpeg as libjpeg62-dev is missing
[20:49] <greenit> Gentoo64, thx
[20:50] <Argorok> sskalnik, yes
[20:50] <owenll> DroidHost: http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/
[20:50] <Argorok> sskalnik, all ttys are "no signal"...
[20:50] <DroidHost> owenll, Thank You
[20:50] <sskalnik> Argorok:  yikes, that is beyond my expertise then
[20:51] <greenit> Gentoo64, it is defined, but the error is still there
[20:51] <nzee> I m using a python virtualenv
[20:51] <Gentoo64> greenit: not sure then, try the wine room maybe
[20:51] <greenit> Gentoo64, ok, thx :)
[20:51] <Gentoo64> greenit: #winehq i think
[20:51] <zhangn> anyone have tried to use gmail app (email), but hosting the website with your own server?
[20:52] <Guest50649> #join ubuntu-de
[20:52] <mohadib> zhangn: what does a website have to do with email?
[20:52] <zhangn> no
[20:53] <schnuffle> nzee: Aha, that is a very essential information :). Okay you need to install: libjpeg-dev libpng-dev zlib1g-dev liblcms1-dev python-dev
[20:53] <zhangn> it do not need email
[20:53] <mohadib> so you guestion if have i used gmail and had a website at the same time
[20:53] <sskalnik> zhangn:  Is your question about ubuntu?
[20:53] <mohadib> then the answer is yes, many times
[20:54] <zhangn> yes. I am using ubuntu to host my sever
[20:54] <sskalnik> zhangn:  What is your question?
[20:54] <Argorok> sskalnik, well, thank you anyway :] I will try to edit X config through the live cd, then
[20:54] <zhangn> google apps provide corporate email service
[20:55] <nzee> how do I install it all at once. schnuffle
[20:55] <sskalnik> Argorok:  Sorry I could not be of much help
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> google corp email is very worth it
[20:55] <zhangn> I like their email service, but i don't like their default hosting website
[20:55] <mohadib> you dont have to use the website
[20:55] <zhangn> I want to hosting my web-app on my own server
[20:55] <nzee> sudo apt-get libjpeg-dev libpng-dev zlib1g-dev liblcms1-dev python-dev ? will this work schnuffle
[20:55] <mohadib> you can use a web based imap client like roundcube if you want
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> zhangn: you could make a server download your email and host it on your own server
[20:55] <schnuffle> nzee: sudo apt-get install   libjpeg-dev libpng-dev zlib1g-dev liblcms1-dev python-dev
[20:55] <mohadib> or any other imap or pop client
[20:56] <Bunie> Hey guys is there a package that will set up apache+php for me?
[20:56] <Bunie> i always had difficulties setting that up manually.
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> !lamp | Bunie
[20:56] <nzee> is python-dev required too? schnuffle
[20:56] <Crossdiver> On ubuntu 11.10 server, the boot process is hanging at "Stopping system v runlevel compatibility" -- most of the guides that I read suggest that you install X11 and the GTK Greeter... but I do not want a GUI on this server... just the CLI. How do I get the server to boot all the way, but not install a GUI? Thanks...
[20:56] <Bunie> i thought it was called xamp? :P
[20:56] <schnuffle> nzee: yes for all packages that you install that have a module which is wrutten in C
[20:56] <sskalnik> zhangn:  Go into the control panel of your domain name provider and change the A-record to point to your server.
[20:57] <zhangn> thank you so many replies. I am a bit new to ubuntu. so what exactly i need to do?
[20:57] <mohadib> this is not really ubuntu specifc question zhangn
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> Bunie: X in Xamp means 'anything' L in Lamp means Linux, which you are using a distribution of
[20:57] <mohadib> the short answer is provide another client besides the gmail web client that you dont like
[20:58] <sskalnik> zhangn:  You will need to set up your server to host the site, which is a project all its own. You will need to change the A record in the DNS to point to your server.
[20:58] <Argorok> sskalnik, no problems. Its just a new thing to learn :]
[20:58] <wado> ruser acidfrost :  r u here?
[20:58] <Argorok> Let me ask again :P
[20:58] <Argorok> I've just installed Ubuntu 11.10 x86 on my desktop and when installation finishes and I restart the computer, after the grub menu my display get "no signal" message... Looks like some resolution that the native driver doesn't support or something like that. I tryed to set nomodeset on grub instead of quiet splash and didn't help... Can anyone help me to solve it? I can't even get terminals (ctrl+alt+f1) to install nvidia drivers
[20:58] <wado> ruser acidfrost :  r u here?
[20:59] <sskalnik> Argorok:  you might post in the forums as well; may let more people see your issue.
[20:59] <zhangn> okay. Thank you mohadib and sskalnik. I will play around it myself
[20:59] <Argorok> (But live cd boots with right resolution without problems... 1680x1050)
[20:59] <mohadib> zhangn: you might try roundcube
[20:59] <mohadib> its a nice web based imap client
[20:59] <schnuffle> +1 for roundcube
[20:59] <zhangn> how the irc works? Can i add you as friend mohadib?
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> Argorok: add the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[21:00] <Bunie> lol irc doesnt really have friends.
[21:00] <mohadib> im never here anyway :D
[21:00] <zhangn> i have not use irc for 10 years, really interesting
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> zhangn: some clients support adding them, pidgin can afaik
[21:00] <ruser> wado: i'm here now
[21:01] <wado> ruser I restated the laptop, and now it became totally mute
[21:01] <marel> Can I dual boot ubuntu with windows without WUBI, simply by installing Ubuntu and then choosing Install Ubuntu Alongside Windows ?
[21:01] <theadmin> marel: Well duh
[21:01] <zhangn> my freenode(IRC) do not have the option to add friend. Thanks for all your help, although we may not see again...
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> marel: yes, you will need to resize your NTFS and install to the free space
[21:01] <ruser> wado: sorry not a big expert you can just comment out the lines we added to the file
[21:01] <ruser> and restart alsa again
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> zhangn: pidgin supports IRCbuddies
[21:02] <ruser> wado:  try unmuting it first in options thought
[21:02] <wado> ruser the sound icon the bar beside the clock is even mute and the unmute option is inactive
[21:02] <koffeehauser> A quick question, does emesene support video chat yet?
[21:02] <nzee> schnuffle, installed all that. yet still same error. Do i have to reinstall PIL?
[21:02] <ruser> wado:  did you try anything else after finished with you?
[21:02] <wado> ruser no
[21:03] <schnuffle> nzee: yes of course as it has to recompile with the jpeg libs ibncluded
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> koffeehauser: seems so: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1310429
[21:04] <wado> ruser it seems it doesn't see the audio card
[21:04] <thearthur> I booted my ubuntu box today and on boot i get nothing but permission errors about /run/*
[21:04] <wado> ruser the hardware tab in the sound preferences is now empty
[21:04] <thearthur> none of the system services can start
[21:04] <ruser> wado: okay, than comment out those 3 lines we added
[21:05] <thearthur> are any recent update known to have broken the permissions on /run and /var/run?
[21:05] <wado> but that would make the headphone stop working again ruser :(
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[21:06] <ruser> wado: better than not having any sound thougt, and i would research your laptop and sound card to get it working correctly
[21:06] <melengo> mheloo
[21:07] <oCean> guntbert: it's done
[21:07] <guntbert> oCean: thank you
[21:07] <pegler> I have an init.d script that uses start-stop-daemon, but I want it to write the output of the process to a log.  I don't see that as a parameter to start-stop-daemon, and I am not sure where to look for an answer.  is it as simple as --exec process >> LOG
[21:07] <shades> I'mtrying to dpkg -i apache2.2-bin but it's telling me  i need all these depdendancies that i don't need or want like libaprutil1-dbd-mysql, can i tell it to ignore this?
[21:08] <nixmaniack> does anybody know how can I set up an ad-hoc network (aka hotspot/wireless access point) from command line on GNU/Linux?
[21:08] <nzee> ruser, schnuffle, it worked!! Yaaaay. Thanks a lot :) :)
[21:09] <bs> how to x kill apllication without terminal?
[21:09] <ssta> nixmaniack: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc
[21:09] <tman1> try system monitor
[21:09] <ruser> nzee: grats
[21:09] <tman1> under processes tab
[21:09] <schnuffle> nzee: for the next time. the info you give the easier it is to sort out your problem
[21:10] <schnuffle> nzee: oops, the more info ...
[21:10] <ruser> schnuffle: what was the solution?
[21:10] <shades> anyone?
[21:10] <jure> hellow! what should i delete so i won't need to put in my password for keyring when i need to connect to wireles. i have ubuntu 10.04?
[21:10] <schnuffle> ruser: when you install python virtualenv without the jpeg-dev packages there's no jpeg saupport
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> shades: try:  sudo apt-get -f install
[21:11] <nzee> sure will remember that schnuffle :)
[21:11] <shades> ActionParsnip: the machine is not online
[21:11] <schnuffle> nzee: your welcome
[21:11] <Agamemnus> Hi
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> shades: then why run apache?
[21:11] <Agamemnus> I would like to ftp read and write some files
[21:12] <Agamemnus> What is a good command-line program for this?
[21:12] <shades> ActionParsnip: I have a bigl ocal network to play with
[21:12] <ruser> schnuffle: ouch. thanks, i should have realized he was doing python DEV.  and key word being dev :)
[21:12] <shades> Agamemnus: have you tried 'ftp' ?
[21:12] <Agamemnus> Nope.
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> shades: I'd get it online and configured, then put it back where it is now
[21:12] <schnuffle> Agamemnus: Do you need a graphical FTP Client?
[21:12] <Agamemnus> :d how do i see the parameters for it?
[21:12] <Agamemnus> no, I need a command line that says:
[21:13] <shades> ActionParsnip: that is a major pain in the ass, i'm probably going to have to just compile it from source
[21:13] <Agamemnus> ftp user pass file read/write
[21:13] <Agamemnus> something like that
[21:13] <schnuffle> Agamemnus: for the command line I would recommend ncftp
[21:13] <Agamemnus> oh..
[21:13] <Agamemnus> ftp site user pass file read/write
[21:13] <Agamemnus> ok
[21:14] <shades> Agamemnus: i don't think you understand what command line means, it means you specify the flags instead of having some graphical thing let you click on them and enter ...
[21:14] <sskalnik> shades:  No way to get the system online to install apache and its dependencies? It seems like that would take a lot of pain out of the process.
[21:14] <Agamemnus> ...
[21:15] <Agamemnus> I want to enter a set of commands via a shell command to make me fun things
[21:15] <shades> sskalnik: getting the box online would be as big of a pain in the ass
[21:15] <schnuffle> shades:  How about using the DVD/CD as local repository to install packages?
[21:15] <jcook_5xdata> anyone using 12.04 daily?
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> !12.04
[21:15] <sskalnik> jcook_5xdata:  yes, but you should use  #ubuntu+1
[21:16] <jcook_5xdata> I was just wondering if it stable enuff for every day use
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> jcook_5xdata: officially no
[21:16] <shades> schnuffle, those pckages aren't on the cd.....
[21:16] <Agamemnus> I jus t want something super simple that has those parameters: site, user, pass, file, {read or write}
[21:16] <sskalnik> jcook_5xdata:  Stable enough for me, but officially no
[21:16] <schnuffle> Agamemnus: what means read or write
[21:17] <Agamemnus> oh and a permissions field
[21:17] <Agamemnus> send the file to the server or get the file from the server
[21:17] <jure> how do i disable keyring i ubuntu 10.04?
[21:17] <schnuffle> Agamemnus:  ftpput is what you want
[21:17] <jcook_5xdata> sskalnik, thanks I hosed my install so I was think of just putting that on thamks again :)
[21:17] <bs> i install gnome but it's in Arabic how to convert it into English i'n using ubuntu 11.10
[21:18] <schnuffle> Agamemnus: and ftpget of course :)
[21:18] <jure>  /j #ubuntu-si
[21:18] <Agamemnus> cool.
[21:18] <Agamemnus> but i can't download ftpput for some reason
[21:18] <Bunie> what if i attempt to update something while its running?
[21:19] <Agamemnus> apt-get is unable to locate the package
[21:19] <Bunie> Agamemnus: apt-get update? :S
[21:19] <Agamemnus> oo
[21:19] <tompickles> Hello all. Where does ubuntu mount CDs to?
[21:19] <Agamemnus> ok, it's not ftpput it is "camstream"??
[21:19] <jcook_5xdata> tompickles, /media/CD_ROM(or cd name)
[21:20] <ruser> tompickles: it depends, usually it places a shortcut on desktop
[21:20] <peppermint_> hey jason
[21:20] <ruser> schnuffle: you will be delighted to knwo that the box came back up after the reboot
[21:20] <Agamemnus> that's not it either
[21:20] <sskalnik> Agamemnus:  apt-cache search "ftp client"
[21:21] <schnuffle> ruser: perfect :)
[21:21] <peppermint_> hey chanserv
[21:21] <wolfric> is there anyway to get alt f1 back in 11.10?
[21:21] <ruser> schnuffle: yeah, saves me a lot of hasstle :)
[21:21] <wolfric> what exactly do you call what it does?
[21:21] <schnuffle> Agamemnus: it's a script that uses  ncftp: http://bash.cyberciti.biz/backup/copy-all-local-files-to-remote-ftp-server-2/
[21:21] <peppermint_> #ubuntu
[21:21] <Agamemnus> i found wput?
[21:21] <ruser> schnuffle: thanks for your help
[21:21] <thearthur> turned on my system this morning and it freezes on the slapsh screen with the message "Booting system withoug full netowrk configuration"
[21:22] <peppermint_> try mint lol
[21:22] <thearthur> after installing updates
[21:22] <thearthur> anyone else seeing this?
[21:22] <Agamemnus> i see
[21:22] <Agamemnus> thanks
[21:22] <Agamemnus> i'll try it all
[21:22] <Bunie> peppermint_: You WOULD say that, wouldnt you, "Peppermint"
[21:22] <wolfric> actually nvm found it
[21:22] <schnuffle> Agamemnus: and if you have installed ncftp you get both tools as ncftpput and ncftpget
[21:22] <peppermint_> i do not use mint
[21:22] <Agamemnus> ahhh
[21:22] <peppermint_> sry
[21:22] <peppermint_> im actually pinguy
[21:22] <Bunie> was a joke
[21:22] <Bunie> why dont linux users get jokes
[21:22] <Bunie> ._.
[21:22] <peppermint_> lol
[21:22] <tompickles> jcook_5xdata: it's not in /media
[21:23] <guntbert> !ot | Bunie peppermint_
[21:23] <schnuffle> Agamemnus: and ncftpbatch for batch tasks check the manuals ncftp is quite versatile
[21:23] <thearthur> how many linux users does it take to get the joke?
[21:23] <Agamemnus> ok thanks guys
[21:23] <peppermint_> anyways shutdown /p
[21:23] <Agamemnus> =]
[21:23] <tompickles> ruser: yeh, it's mounted and I can see it in nautilus. But *where* is the actual mount point?!
[21:23] <peppermint_> i mean shutdown -h now
[21:23] <Bunie> dev/sda1?
[21:23] <Bunie> lols idk D;
[21:24] <Bunie> tompickles i have no idea what you mean and im pretty sure no one else does either.
[21:24] <Bunie> lol
[21:25] <jcook_5xdata> tompickles, if not there check .gvfs in you home dir but it should be in /media or /mnt if it and old vrs
[21:25] <schnuffle> tompickles: open a terminal enter: mount
[21:26] <bs> i install gnome but it's in Arabic how to convert it into English i'n using ubuntu 11.10
[21:26] <tompickles> schnuffle: what am i looking for in mount?
[21:26] <schnuffle> tompickles: you'll all drives mounted and the mount point one is the drive you want to know the moint point of
[21:27] <schnuffle> tompickles: you'll see ...
[21:27] <tompickles> the cd is mounted: banshee plays it.. but the cd drive isn't listed under mount
[21:27] <Bunie> bs: try going to the settings and clicking the little blue flag :S im new here so i cant help much lols
[21:27] <schnuffle> tompickles: paste the output of the mount commend
[21:28] <Jordan_U> tompickles: Audio CDs don't have filesystems and thus cannot be "mounted". Their content is interpreted by music playing applications.
[21:28] <tompickles> schnuffle: directly here
[21:28] <tompickles> Jordan_U: they have the file system iso.... somethign orother
[21:28] <kjm> the mouse / trackpad preferences allow to choose a left or right-handed button preference. Is there a way to have the mouse left-handed and the trackpad right-handed??
[21:28] <tompickles> Jordan_U: iso880...
[21:28] <Bunie> yeah Music CD's dont have files
[21:28] <tompickles> schnuffle: /dev/sda6 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro,user_xattr,commit=0)
[21:28] <tompickles> proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[21:28] <tompickles> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[21:28] <tompickles> fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
[21:28] <tompickles> none on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw)
[21:28] <schnuffle> tompickles: no use pastebinit, apt-get install pastebinit && mount | pastebinit
[21:28] <FloodBot1> tompickles: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:28] <tompickles> none on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
[21:29] <schnuffle> but as the others have already stated if it's a RedBook Audio Cd it's not mounted to play
[21:30] <tompickles> schnuffle: i want to use xbmc as a media centre. but, the play cd button doesn't work. apparently it's hardcoded to look at /dev/cdrom
[21:30] <tompickles> but.. is that where the cd is!
[21:31] <tompickles> like, howcome nautilious lists files on the cd?
[21:31] <tompickles> schnuffle: the /media mount point is a second hdd in http://pastebin.com/LE43K4qs
[21:32] <tompickles> i edited fstab for it to do that
[21:32] <acidfrost> whoever was having graphics trouble i'm back
[21:32] <akash> hello
[21:32] <akash> im having trouble with the terminal
[21:32] <Bunie> i dunno who was having graphics trouble but i do have a graphics issue myself ^^
[21:32] <evilkid> hi, im having wifi problems >.< ...
[21:32] <horse1bun> I am having wireless trouble and I have a band-aid  on my finger
[21:32] <Argorok> Again: I've just installed Ubuntu 11.10 x86 on my desktop and when installation finishes and I restart the computer, after the grub menu my display get "no signal" message... Looks like some resolution that the native driver doesn't support or something like that. I tryed to set nomodeset on grub instead of quiet splash and didn't help... Can anyone help me to solve it? I can't even get terminals (ctrl+alt+f1) to install nvidia drivers (But live cd boots w
[21:32] <marel> When I go into BIOS there's boot option #1 and #2 however under boot option 1 there isn't my USB drive with ubuntu
[21:32] <acidfrost> also i'm having trouble with kde on my netbook i choose kde from gdm and then kde loads then the screen goes black but i can still use guake
[21:33] <akash> has anybody ever heard of lfs/
[21:33] <akash> ?*
[21:33] <horse1bun> is there a quieter channel for wireless cards, like #wireless?
[21:33] <thearthur> horse1bun: dont think so
[21:33] <Bunie> heard of it? Yes. Know what it is? No. :P
[21:33] <schnuffle> tompickles: normally the CDROM in newer distris is /dev/sr0 check if /dev/cdrom is a symlink to it
[21:34] <kjm> the mouse / trackpad preferences allow to choose a left or right-handed button preference. Is there a way to have the mouse left-handed and the trackpad right-handed??
[21:34] <akash> oh well im having trouble with ti
[21:34] <mbeierl> I'm trying to downgrade from 64 to 32 bit.  I did a fresh install and am trying to bring over my firefox profile, but it appears there's a problem with the sqlite.  Anyone know how to export the 64 bit sqlite so I can reimport it in 32bit format?
[21:34] <LupusSLE> Evening folks, seeking assistance regarding my recently-upgraded-to-natty Ubuntu server. Upon booting, I see the list of options on Grub but when it tries to boot any of them I'm getting this error: "error: symbol not found: 'grub_os_area_addr'" - I'm thinking it's to do with the software raid setup... I'm in recovery mode at the moment and update-grub is giving me this error: wrong # of devices in RAID set - suggestion
[21:34] <LupusSLE> s?
[21:34] <akash> everytime i try and run a command like this in the terminal:mkdir -pv $LFS
[21:34] <akash> i get permission denied
[21:35] <sskalnik> !sudo > akash
[21:35] <_jason> akash: usually because you don't have permission :)
[21:35] <akash> i know how would i gain it
[21:35] <akash> and im new to linux how do i see rivate messages
[21:35] <sskalnik> !sudo | akash
[21:35] <schnuffle> LupusSLE: Recover your Raid and the update grub?
[21:36] <marel> Can I launch Ubuntu install while I'm still in windows ?
[21:36] <sskalnik> marel:  Nope.
[21:36] <akash> wait so id type in sudo?
[21:36] <evilkid> hey, im having wifi problems, can anyone help me?
[21:36] <Captin_Hook> yes through a virtual machine
[21:36] <LupusSLE> schnuffle: Could you be a little bit more specific please?
[21:36] <marel> What am I supposed to do than ? I can't get it to boost on computer launch ... ?
[21:36] <Bunie> akash: Type in Sudo before your command. as in "Sudo <Command here>"
[21:37] <tompickles> schnuffle: yeh, it is symlinked.
[21:37] <Bunie> marel: You likely need to go into your bios settings and configure your CD/USB to boot before your HDD
[21:37] <schnuffle> LupusSLE: When your system is running, is it an option to recover the raid first and then update grub?
[21:37] <akash> ok
[21:37] <akash> and i accendtly full screen the irc chat
[21:37] <akash> how would i minimize it
[21:37] <akash> or make it smaller :P
[21:37] <marel> Bunie: I tried it with 2 different USB's however there isnt such a choice as USB ..
[21:38] <LupusSLE> schnuffle: Where should I see this option? I'm getting nothing but the grub error when I try to boot. I'm on the Live CD recovery mood. Makes no mention of raid recovery
[21:38] <Bunie> marel: you've been in your bios settings, and theres no USB boot option? Your motherboard may not support USB Booting then
[21:38] <evilkid> ....so anyone? i have a wireless Sagem adapter, i installed the drivers, but it still dosnt work
[21:38] <schnuffle> tompickles: so to recapitulate: Your problem is that you want to use xmbc but xmbc is not recognizing your cdrom?
[21:38] <marel> Bunie: it's a brand new laptop, I highly doubt that it's not supported :\
[21:38] <LupusSLE> As far as I'm aware, the RAID itself is fine. It's a software RAID_1, it's just grub having issues with it it would seem...
[21:39] <tompickles> schnuffle: exactly. in xmbc, the "play cd" option comes up in the menu when i insert a disk. but it doesn't play.
[21:39] <Bunie> marel: Your bios should have a list of boot options in order of 1 to 5 (or something similar) with options listed such as HDD, Disk Drive, USB, Ethernet, Etc.
[21:39] <schnuffle> LupusSLE: So what did happen and what did you do. Disk failed? Replaced it? ......
[21:40] <Bunie> marel: You need to move USB and Disk Drive above HDD
[21:40] <Jordan_U> LupusSLE: Try changing the boot order in your BIOS. That error means that the grub mbr+core.img loaded by the BIOS doesn't match the modules in /boot/grub/, which means that one (/boot/grub/) was updated without updating the other. Hopefully your other drive's mbr+emdedded area was updated and you will then be able to boot.
[21:40] <dagerik> When I have my tv connected to pc through HDMI, the login screen shows on the tv, but as soon as I log in, the tv turns blue. How can I get this working?
[21:40] <grissom> what is the torrentleech channel ?
[21:40] <schnuffle> tompickles: I'm in no way an xmbc expert as I haven't used it yet. So I'll be of no help on that topic
[21:40] <Bunie> dagerik: have you checked your resolution settings?
[21:40] <Jordan_U> LupusSLE: Once booted, run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" and make sure that *both* drives are selected as install devices so that this doesn't happen again.
[21:40] <tompickles> schnuffle: thanks though!
[21:41] <sskalnik> Two of my serial ports are reporting "Device or resource busy" when I try to use them. I've rebooted; no change. lsof | grep tty doesn't show that either one of them is being used. Any ideas?
[21:41] <dagerik> Bunie: on the tv?
[21:41] <guntbert> !alis | grissom
[21:41] <CharlieSu> I have avahi-daemon installed and 0conf is working well, but i was wondering if there is a linux utility to list all other 0conf hosts on a network.. anyone know?
[21:41] <Bunie> dagerik: on your PC.
[21:41] <LupusSLE> Jordan_U, Theoretically... could this be a problem if I'm using an older version of grub on the livecd than is on natty?
[21:41] <Jordan_U> LupusSLE: No.
[21:42] <dagerik> Bunie: My tv appears as unknown.
[21:42] <akash> ok so id type it like this
[21:42] <akash> sudo "mke2fs -jv /dev/<xxx>"
[21:43] <Bunie> dagerik: You cant set a resolution on it?
[21:43] <LupusSLE> Jordan_U, Thanks... I *think* I know how to do that... I'll get back to you in a moment
[21:43] <Jordan_U> LupusSLE: The difference is between the mbr+embedded area and the modules in /boot/grub/. A command like "grub-install /dev/sda" will ensure that the modules in /boot/grub/ match the mbr and embedded area of /dev/sda, but might leave an outdated mbr+embedded area in /dev/sdb for instance.
[21:43] <dagerik> Bunie: I can set resolution. But it still remains blue.
[21:44] <akash> akash@akash-Compaq-Presario-CQ50-Notebook-PC:~$ sudo "mke2fs -jv /dev/sda1"
[21:44] <akash> sudo: mke2fs -jv /dev/sda1: command not found
[21:44] <Bunie> dagerik: There should be a "Mirror Displays" box. Have you tried checking it, just to see if it works?\
[21:44] <akash> why do i get an error ?
[21:44] <akash> nvm
[21:44] <akash> got it
[21:45] <ibodi> u11.10 does install on acer aspire 5750g, however i finally install u10.04, but there is no wireless connection, pls help
[21:45] <ibodi> u11.10 does not install*
[21:45] <Lordveda> Hello world
[21:46] <ibodi> iwconfig -- no wireless extensions
[21:46] <dagerik> Bunie: Mirror screens do not work.
[21:46] <dagerik> Bunie: But the hdmi worked fine in the login sequence.
[21:46] <schnuffle> ibodi: is your problem wireless with 10.04 or install with 11.10
[21:46] <Bunie> dagerik: Ah.. not sure what to tell you =/ im new to ubuntu and havnt tried plugging in my television yet. someone else will need to help you =/
[21:46] <schnuffle> ?
[21:47] <ibodi> schnuffle: 11.10 does not install at all. so i tried 10.04, it finally installed, but no wireless, no wired just no internet at all. but win7 has, exactly as this :
[21:47] <LupusSLE> Jordan_U, Booting into recovery mode from CD, do I want to activate RAID during recovery?
[21:48] <ibodi> schnuffle:  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/acer-aspire-5750g-not-seeing-wireless-network-card-or-wired-adapter-910961/
[21:48] <evilkid> can anyone help me, i was wifi problem...
[21:48] <ibodi> schnuffle:  just wonder how this guy fixed.
[21:49] <Socky_> .
[21:49] <Lordveda> I have some weird problem concerning xmlto and docbook 5
[21:49] <dyd__> if i try to copy in my usb (filesystem hfs+) it says error cause it's read only, how can i make it writable?
[21:49] <Lordveda> in Ubuntu 11.10
[21:49] <arinov> hello, i have very low performance with empathy and gwibber on ubuntu certified netbook
[21:50] <arinov> where can i found any help in my situation?
[21:50] <evilkid> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa can help with wifi problems?!! i see the card but i cannot connect!!
[21:50] <Lordveda> I had a db5(docbook) file and I was using xmlto 0.0.23, it is now complaining of the absence of log4j logger
[21:50] <escott> dyd__, hfs+ is not supported in read-write mode with journaling enabled
[21:50] <Lordveda> I don't know anything about it.
[21:50] <Jordan_U> LupusSLE: If you want to try to recover that way, yes. But I told you to try changing the boot order in the BIOS first. Either way should work as long as you get to where you can run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" from your installed system. So whichever is easiest for you.
[21:50] <Agamemnus> One more!
[21:50] <marel> I've selected my USB to be first boot choice, then I reboot my computer and then the black screen appears and absolutely nothing happens..
[21:51] <schnuffle> ibodi: he downloaded and comnpiled the driver for his hardware
[21:51] <Agamemnus> Is there a small little program that can drive a hash code from a file?
[21:51] <Agamemnus> derive*
[21:51] <ibodi> schnuffle: there is no internet for the laptop, howto download?
[21:51] <POVaddct> Agamemnus: md5sum, sha1sum, ...
[21:51] <escott> Agamemnus, md5sum sha1sum etc
[21:51] <dyd__> escott, what filesystem is compatible with linux and mac?
[21:51] <Jordan_U> dyd__: Linux only supports writing for non journaled hfsplus. You'll probably need to use OSX to disable journaling.
[21:51] <joebobjoe> Why does Aptitude say "No packages will be installed" when I try to install something :(
[21:51] <escott> dyd__, FAT
[21:52] <schnuffle> ibodi: no wired connection?
[21:52] <guntbert> joebobjoe: usually because that package is already installed
[21:52] <dyd__> escott, i need to copy a file about 5 gb, fat won't work
[21:52] <ibodi> schnuffle: no wired, no wireless, just nothing
[21:52] <Agamemnus> thanks
[21:52] <evilkid> ....anyone know anything about WIFIs here?!!
[21:52] <dyd__> Jordan_U, ok, i'll try that
[21:53] <evilkid> ?????
[21:53] <joebobjoe> guntbert: But when I try 'aptitude remove <said package>', I get the same thing: 'No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.'
[21:53] <Jordan_U> evilkid: Please stop with the theatrics. It won't get you an answer sooner and only serves to annoy those that would be helping you.
[21:53] <acidfrost> evilkid, nope but we know how to make peanut butter moonshine
[21:53] <Lordveda> xmlto gives me the following warning:
[21:54] <ibodi> schnuffle: however i can use this pc to download and use usb to copy over. what to download ?
[21:54] <acidfrost> evilkid, lmao yes what did you need
[21:54] <evilkid> Jordan_U >.> no one answered :(
[21:54] <Lordveda> [warning] /usr/bin/fop: Unable to locate servlet-api in /usr/share/java
[21:54] <schnuffle> ibodi: just sortring out
[21:54] <guntbert> joebobjoe: try with apt-get
[21:54] <VCoolio> joebobjoe: does it only say that? using sudo?
[21:55] <evilkid> acidfrost well i have a wifi adapter, and i just installed its drivers, and rebooted, but i cant see any connecting
[21:55] <Lordveda> log4j:WARN No appenders could be found for logger (org.apache.fop.util.ContentHandlerFactoryRegistry).
[21:55] <joebobjoe> VCoolio: Yes, using sudo
[21:55] <Jordan_U> evilkid: If nobody knows the answer then nobody will anser. It can also help to give more detailed information like the exact chipset if you know it and exactly what happens when you try to connect.
[21:55] <Lordveda> log4j:WARN Please initialize the log4j system properly.
[21:55] <evilkid> Jordan_U chipset is ZD1211 and i just installed it
[21:55] <Lordveda> the problem is how to initialize the log4j system properly.
[21:56] <Lordveda> I don't know how to do so.
[21:56] <Lordveda> I need help plz
[21:56] <acidfrost> evilkid, modprobe -l | grep zd12122
[21:56] <joebobjoe> guntbert VCoolio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/792160/
[21:56] <guntbert> !enter | Lordveda
[21:57] <Lordveda> guntbert, thanks
[21:57] <evilkid> acidfrost ... same
[21:57] <gary_inNYC> does anyone here use openbox and know how to use an ipod touch with rhythmbox?
[21:57] <Lordveda> How many lines are allowed to be pasted in the channel concerning a problem?
[21:57] <guntbert> !paste | Lordveda
[21:57] <acidfrost> evilkid, ??
[21:58] <VCoolio> that's apt-get, and it makes sense: it's already installed and latest version, so nothing to do
[21:58] <guntbert> Lordveda: not more than 3 here please
[21:58] <akash> hello can someone help me with something?
[21:58] <VCoolio> joebobjoe: ^
[21:58] <evilkid> acidfrost im using a VM, and when i open Wicd network manger, cant see any access point
[21:58] <akash> im reading lfs
[21:58] <akash> and i created a parition and everything
[21:58] <guntbert> joebobjoe: looks sane
[21:58] <akash> and make the sources folder for the programs
[21:58] <evilkid> acidfrost and im not using my laptop wireless card btw
[21:58] <schnuffle> ibody can you give me the name of your network chip
[21:58] <schnuffle> ?
[21:58] <xoff> does anyone know which file system has the least write performance penalty with RAID 6 ?
[21:58] <akash> and on 3.2 it tells me to download a bunch of packages
[21:59] <guntbert> !enter > akash
[21:59] <joebobjoe> VCoolio guntbert: Then I wonder why it does not remove
[21:59] <acidfrost> evilkid, oh i see what you've done
[21:59] <jagged97> .sn 2529
[21:59] <wado> ruser the sound is back, and the headphone stopped
[21:59] <Lordveda> guntbert, the error is actually in 3 lines.
[21:59] <evilkid> acidfrost .. O_O ?
[21:59] <acidfrost> evilkid, have you forwarded your ethernet/wireless in virtual box ? otherwise its sandboxed
[21:59] <joebobjoe> VCoolio guntbert: Nevermind, apt-get works. For some reason aptitude didn't.
[21:59] <evilkid> acidfrost ... idk how
[22:00] <acidfrost> settings
[22:00] <LupusSLE> Jordan_U, Odd... can't seem to mount /dev/sdb1 in recovery...
[22:00] <LupusSLE> Jordan_U, Reckon that's normal or is my disk buggered?#
[22:00] <acidfrost> if i had it installed i'd give you step by step instructions but this is a new  machine
[22:00] <VCoolio> joebobjoe: try this for aptitude, the part with the green line in front http://is.gd/oyR9MQ
[22:00] <auronandace> evilkid: if you are using ubuntu in a vm you probably won't need to install network drivers
[22:00] <evilkid> acidfrost i just pluged in my wifi and installed the driver ...
[22:00] <reapingwo> quick question: I am trying to cat | grep but the file is too large, how do I have cat make a new file on my desktop?
[22:00] <guntbert> joebobjoe: it seem we will have to move to apt-get anyway, there is a problem with multi-arch and aptitude
[22:00] <evilkid> auronandace it didnt work even without driver
[22:01] <Jordan_U> LupusSLE: If /dev/sdb1 is only one member of your raid array then you shouldn't be trying to mount it.
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> reapingwo: cat > ~/Desktop/outfile.txt
[22:01] <acidfrost> evilkid, yeah see you can't just do that though  it has to have some way of communicating out side of the virtual machine because all it sees inside is blackness
[22:01] <LupusSLE> Jordan_U, Of course... I'm being silly
[22:01] <guntbert> reapingwo: try grep "expression" file > newfile
[22:02] <joebobjoe> VCoolio: That worked, thanks.
[22:02] <evilkid> acidfrost ... awh i see, mmm is there any solution for this?
[22:02] <joebobjoe> guntbert: Are you a maintainer?
[22:02] <reapingwo> ohh I see so it would look like this: cat /var/log/syslog | grep wlan1 > wlan1log
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> reapingwo: looks good, I'd use:  grep -i    too, case insensitive ;)
[22:03] <guntbert> joebobjoe: no, but look into bug 831768
[22:03] <acidfrost> evilkid, do you have an internet connection out side of your vm ?
[22:03] <domenicobenigno> !list
[22:03] <evilkid> acidfrost .. yep im using it right now
[22:04] <evilkid> acidfrost using it in ubuntu too ...
[22:04] <acidfrost> go to settings or vm page and look at the ethernet settings/wireless
[22:04] <LupusSLE> Jordan_U, Ack... I tried changing the HDD boot order but I'm running into the exact same error.
[22:04] <LupusSLE> I've ran grub-install against /dev/sda and /dev/sdb
[22:04] <evilkid> acidfrost and?
[22:05] <Argorok> How can I install drivers on my ubuntu through the live cd? (My installed ubuntu doesnt recognize my videocard)
[22:05] <joebobjoe> guntbert: And I thought the general consensus over the past years was to use aptitude :(
[22:05] <reapingwo> bingo thanks a lot.  it made the file in my home folder.  If I want to specify the file location just add the dir after the >  ?
[22:05] <Lordveda> Well the command I am trying to issue is the following:
[22:05] <Agamemnus> ok um....how do you rename a file?
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> Argorok: same as installed OS< you just cannot reboot
[22:06] <Jordan_U> LupusSLE: What was the output from grub-install each time (if it's more than one line use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com ).
[22:06] <reapingwo> cat /var/log/syslog | grep wlan1 > /home/Desktop/wlan1log
[22:06] <acidfrost> evilkid, i dont' have it installed you'll have to use common sense bud
[22:06] <guntbert> joebobjoe: you are right, looks like 'was' is the correct term :(
[22:06] <Jordan_U> ?
[22:06] <Lordveda> xmlto pdf --with-fop --skip-validation 'filename.xml'
[22:06] <Lordveda> The output is as follows:
[22:06] <evilkid> acidfrost ... well what should i do?
[22:06] <Lordveda> [warning] /usr/bin/fop: Unable to locate servlet-api in /usr/share/java
[22:06] <Lordveda> log4j:WARN No appenders could be found for logger (org.apache.fop.util.ContentHandlerFactoryRegistry).
[22:06] <Lordveda> log4j:WARN Please initialize the log4j system properly.
[22:06] <LupusSLE> Jordan_U, Just said it was succesful... no errors returned.
[22:07] <Jordan_U> reapingwo: grep wlan1 /var/log/syslog > ~/Desktop/wlan1log
[22:07] <reapingwo> ah yes I see I messed up the structure.  I have a folder named desktops for my wallpapers lol
[22:07] <Lordveda> My java version is /exec java -version
[22:07] <alsoeric> been having a couple of weird problems.  xorg and pulse audio hit 100%. apparently it is in connection with disk i/o
[22:08] <Agamemnus> how do you rename a file?
[22:08] <Jordan_U> LupusSLE: Do you have any other drives in this computer? (SD cards and other things *do* count)
[22:08] <Agamemnus> anyone?
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> Agamemnus: mv filename newname
[22:08] <Agamemnus> mv, thanks
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> np
[22:08] <Lordveda> strange enough I had this command to work before.
[22:08] <LupusSLE> Jordan_U, Other than the optical disc drive I'm running the recovery from... not a thing.
[22:08] <Lordveda> I don't know what is wrong.
[22:08] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | LupusSLE
[22:09] <Elef> hey
[22:09] <reapingwo> Jordan_U, is your version just streamlined and faster?  I hear cat slows it down
[22:13] <Argorok> ActionParsnip, I want to install on my OS, THROUGH the live cd, because live cd works on my display, installed OS no
[22:17] <a> hello
[22:18] <Guest69660> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[22:18] <Guest69660> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[22:18] <cowslammer> I am running on a thumbdrive and need to mount my harddisk - what is the device name?
[22:19] <LupusSLE> Jordan_U, Cheers for the help... not managed to solve it but I've lost the will to try
[22:20] <horse1bun> i think you can type lsusb or look in the /media folder cowslammer
[22:20] <ubuntunoob> hey everyone i was wondering if i wanted to use the airport extreme in my macbook pro 2,2
[22:20] <ubuntunoob> and the firmware is atheros 5416
[22:21] <ubuntunoob> 2.1.14.6
[22:21] <Jordan_U> LubuntuPowered: If you want to try something that will likely allow you to boot into your system and use it fairly easily, try Super GRUB2 Disk (1.99 beta1, it has better RAID support than 1.98s1).
[22:21] <Jordan_U> LubuntuPowered: Sorry, that wasn't meant for you.
[22:22] <akash> hey if i use the wget /wget-list thing in terminal and im dling something how do i stop the download
[22:22] <cowslammer> horse1bun, neither of those give anything about the harddisk
[22:22] <Agamemnus> i must be blind
[22:22] <ubuntunoob> would i have to install a restricted/proprietary driver ?
[22:23] <Agamemnus> Is there a way to use ncftpget/put to change the output file?
[22:23] <Agamemnus> the name
[22:23] <benbloom___> is there a way to force kdm to keep the mouse within a certain, non-rectangular shape? when i have my dual screens spaced a little apart, the mouse suddenly treats the entire outer rectangle (area= max screen1width+screen2width*max screen hight)  as though it were one big area
[22:23] <cowslammer> I am running on a thumbdrive and need to mount my harddisk - what is the device name?
[22:23] <Agamemnus> ah
[22:23] <Agamemnus> never mind
[22:23] <Agamemnus> I see it!
[22:24] <_jason> cowslammer: usually /dev/sd* where * depends
[22:24] <horse1bun> so try fdisk -l to list devices
[22:25] <ubuntunoob> never mind
[22:25] <ubuntunoob> found it on gogle
[22:25] <ubuntunoob> google*
[22:25] <peryson> hi everyone
[22:26] <peryson> anyone alive?
[22:27] <arinov> yes
[22:27] <benbloom___> !anyone | peryson
[22:29] <peryson> well, I was looking to find how to adjust automatically hard disk to spin down when's possible on ubuntu 11.10 ?
[22:29] <shades> i installed apache from source and I"m seeing a whole bunch of apache related files contain .dpkg-new at the end of them... is there a way to apt-get clean/fix_fix_this?
[22:31] <BangBusRUs> Hey there who was helping me before with fdisk?
[22:31] <supasnashbuhl> Hi! Following question: How can I set usb-drive behaviour for eSata drives (automount on connect)?
[22:32] <escott> peryson, hdparm
[22:32] <shades> anyone?
[22:32] <peryson> escott, thanks I'll search for it in dash.
[22:32] <escott> peryson, not in dash its a command line tool
[22:33] <peryson> escott, pff, they removed it from this version? I must edit it in terminal?
[22:33] <farciarz84> hi, I'd like to install winXp from ubuntu virtual machine, what software you suggest?
[22:33] <marel> I've booted Ubuntu Live and there's no internet connection. I switched back to Windows and everything works fine. I've changed my MAC adress on windows, might this be the problem ?
[22:34] <pengyang> hello, does anyone know how to disable the startup of kopete
[22:34] <farciarz84> kvm, virtualbox what's better in ubuntu?
[22:34] <supasnashbuhl> farciarz84: why don't you use wine?
[22:34] <shades> i installed apache from source and I"m seeing a whole bunch of apache related files contain .dpkg-new at the end of them... is there a way to apt-get clean/fix_fix_this? one of the guys from #httpd said there was...
[22:34] <farciarz84> supasnashbuhl: soft I have to use doesn't work with wine
[22:35] <farciarz84> it's dedicated and not common
[22:35] <BangBusRUs> Hi I'm using a Lenovo ThinkPad T61 and just installed Ubuntu 11.10 and now my trackpad isn't working it was working like 30mins ago when I had Ubuntu installed. but messed it up so I reinstalled it...
[22:35] <supasnashbuhl> ah. okay. Well i'd go with virtualbox
[22:35] <_jason> shades: what do you mean by "installed apache from source" and why aren't you using the version packaged in ubuntu's repositories?
[22:35] <cowslammer> I am running on a thumbdrive and need to mount my harddisk - what is the device name nd type?
[22:35] <farciarz84> supasnashbuhl: thx
[22:35] <supasnashbuhl> anyone got a clue how to deal with the eSata automount thing?
[22:36] <escott> peryson, there may be a gui somewhere but I would just use hdparm -S #seconds /dev/sda (check the man page on that but i believe its seconds)
[22:36] <shades> _jason: cause it asks for a whole bunch of dependancies and that machine isn't online so it can't download htem so I just downloaded the apache.tar.gz source file and compiled itmyself
[22:36] <dwbear_> cowslammer: you may need to do a dmesg then grep through to see which device it is, it may be /dev/sda1 though
[22:36] <_jason> !offile | shades
[22:36] <_jason> !offline | shades
[22:36]  * boobear is away: Gone away for now
[22:37] <peryson> escott, Thanks for your time but I think it's not the right option. Because If I set seconds it won't automatically. :P I don't know why they removed it on 11.10.
[22:38] <dwbear75> Can anyone point me to current and 'good' documents and making dual displays work with a Lenovo Thinkstation D20 and ubuntu 10.04?
[22:38] <shades> I don't have that package installed to be able to do all that
[22:38] <farciarz84> supasnashbuhl: virtualbox, the one comes from oracle?
[22:38] <melengo> lol
[22:38] <shades> how do I fix this current install that lft a whole bunch of fileswith the extension dpkg-new ?
[22:38] <escott> peryson, ok. i guess im not following what it was you wanted. (and its in 5 second intervals for most of the range of values)
[22:39] <supasnashbuhl> farciarz84: yeah. It's open source.
[22:39] <BangBusRUs> Ok so here's another one how do I mount a FAT32 partition on ubuntu 11.10?
[22:39] <supasnashbuhl> Well documented, and has pretty good compability.
[22:39] <supasnashbuhl> *compatibility
[22:39] <shades> also when i service --status-all it tells me apache2.dpkg-new... how do I 'fix' that ?
[22:40] <auronandace> !mount | BangBusRUs
[22:40] <escott> BangBusRUs, if you are in plugdev a removable fat32 device should be mounted automatically
[22:40] <auronandace> !fstab | BangBusRUs
[22:40]  * boobear is back.
[22:40]  * boobear is away:
[22:41] <supasnashbuhl> BangRusRUs: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+do+I+mount+a+FAT32+partition+on+ubuntu+11.10
[22:41] <Chotaz`> I'm trying to backup a dead laptop that only boots to my Ubuntu LiveCD, but the LiveCD will not show the external HDD i'm trying to use in the file manager, yet it is listed on the System Monitor?
[22:41] <shades> why would this one service get .dpkg-new appended to it?
[22:41] <peryson> escott, thanks anyway for your time. It's not so important right now. :)
[22:41] <_jason> shades: my advice to you is to undo what you have done and follow the directions I had ubottu send you on how to install packages on a system without internet access
[22:42] <_jason> boobear: please turn your away messages off.
[22:42] <shades> _jason: that system doesn't have this synaptic program I don't believe ;(
[22:42] <shades> _jason also how do I 'undo' a ./configure; make; make all ?
[22:42] <AzoteLogiko> hi friends. what's the best game for ubuntu right now?
[22:43] <auronandace> !best | AzoteLogiko
[22:43] <escott> shades, you can make uninstall if you have the original build directory
[22:43] <_jason> shades: there are other alternatives to using synaptic.  You have to read the software's documentation on how to undo a "make install".  You may try "make uninstall" but that may or may not exist
[22:43] <shades> escott, oh really?
[22:44] <supasnashbuhl> shades: use checkinstall
[22:44] <zykotick9> shades: in future, you might want to use checkinstall - see "/msg ubottu checkinstall" for details
[22:44] <zulax> second time, my videos are playing fast
[22:44] <zulax> with no sound
[22:45] <shades> no rule to make target  uninstall
[22:45] <shades> I guess not...
[22:45] <zulax> is used to work fine until now
[22:45] <shades> argh, checkinstall is currently not installed...
[22:45] <zulax> is there any key that i shouldnt have pressed?
[22:45] <cowslammer> I am running on a thumbdrive and need to mount my harddisk - what is the device name nd type?
[22:45] <shades> what else can I try?
[22:46] <escott> cowslammer, either /dev/sda or /dev/sdb most likely. open the disk utility and find the partition it will tell you the device
[22:46] <supasnashbuhl> shades: you can install checkinstall, then install it with checkinstall and remove it with apt-get remove afterwards
[22:46] <zykotick9> shades: checkinstall will only help for the next time you manually install - it can't help with whatever you have installed right now.
[22:47] <supasnashbuhl> (install it again, because it will probably overwrite the files from make install but now has a record of all those files and they can be easily removed with apt-get remove
[22:47] <shades> oh 8 C
[22:47] <supasnashbuhl> shades: got it?
[22:47] <cowslammer> escott, i did that with fdisk -l but mount wants to know the device type
[22:47] <peryson> there is any command to write in terminal if I ever want to, to reset all ubuntu settings to default? Like the 1st time boot after installation? :P Or am I asking too much? :P
[22:48] <supasnashbuhl> cowslammer: why do you think so? If he does like i said, it should be removed without a problem
[22:48] <zykotick9> peryson: if you create a new user - settings (not software though) will be reset to defaults
[22:48] <peryson> zykotick9, awesome. And then delete the other one. THANK YOU!
[22:48] <escott> cowslammer, usually mount can figure out the type. you shouldnt have to specify. what is the mount command you are using?
[22:48] <cowslammer> supasnashbuhl, i have no idea what u r talking about
[22:49] <shades> supasnashbuhl: so, install checkinstall, re make && make all, then run chckinstall ?
[22:49] <supasnashbuhl> shades: checkinstall will only help for the next time you manually install - it can't help with whatever you have installed right now.
[22:49] <supasnashbuhl> yess
[22:49] <supasnashbuhl> shades: that's right
[22:49] <Chotaz`> Why can't i access my external HDD on ubuntu LiveCD? It tells me I dont have permissions to view the contents?
[22:49] <escott> peryson, no such thing, but you can install stuff like etckeeper to keep /etc clean, or you could use a filesystem like btrfs that supports snapshots. but you dont want to go back to the initial install, you just want to undo the last thing you did so make good snapshots
[22:50] <supasnashbuhl> just dont "make install" but "checkinstall"
[22:50] <escott> peryson, rather backups
[22:50] <supasnashbuhl> with sudo
[22:50] <supasnashbuhl> and after all that do apt-get remove
[22:50] <supasnashbuhl> or even purge
[22:50] <peryson> thanks escott, zykotick9 said also a solution.
[22:50] <peryson> thank you both
[22:51] <joebobjoe> an anyone help me with this FATAL error when attempting to start nfs-kernel-server? https://gist.github.com/1557296
[22:52] <zykotick9> joebobjoe: "no support in current kernel
[22:52] <peryson> Something else, I installed Ubuntu 11.10 [x64] but my drivers aren't installed because my ATI Radeon X1200 isn't supported. If I use Ubuntu 2D will it be ok? 3D is very sluggish.
[22:52] <zykotick9> joebobjoe: sorry - are you using a custom kernel of some sort?
[22:53] <joebobjoe> zykotick9: root@server1:/lib/modules# uname -r 2.6.32-274.7.1.el5.028stab095.1     It's from a VPS provider, should I contact them?
[22:53] <zykotick9> joebobjoe: dunno, but looks like you kernel is missing something required by NFS.  Good luck.
[22:54] <spyvsspy> I am trying to launch chromium-browser from .config/openbox/autostart, it autostarts, but will not play flash files
[22:54] <spyvsspy> instead it tries to download them
[22:54] <spyvsspy> any idea why this is?
[22:54] <spyvsspy> autostart calls a script in the home directory called chrome.sh
[22:54] <supasnashbuhl> spyvsspy: do you have flash-plugin installed?
[22:54] <spyvsspy> yes, I can get flash to play if I manually restart x
[22:55] <supasnashbuhl> wow.. sounds weird..
[22:55] <spyvsspy> the user remote logs in automatically, using this setup http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2010/01/01/enable-automatic-login-in-ubuntu-9-10-server/
[22:55] <spyvsspy> .bashrc issues startx
[22:55] <spyvsspy> (which is openbox)
[22:56] <spyvsspy> openbox calls .config/openbox/autostart, and the autostart calls chrome.sh
[22:56] <spyvsspy> chrome.sh looks like this
[22:57] <shades> uuuurrggghhhh i need *so* many packages for synapic this is bs...
[22:57] <wolfric> how can i prevent regular users logged into gnome from the physical terminal from restarting/shutting down the pc?
[22:57] <supasnashbuhl> spyvsspy: so you're tryig to use flash from a remote location?
[22:57] <escott> spyvsspy, ".bashrc issues startx" you do check that $DISPLAY is unset first right?
[22:57] <supasnashbuhl> shades: for what? for checkinstall?
[22:58] <pelo> what's the chanel for hardware ?
[22:58] <spyvsspy> escott, check it is unset where?
[22:58] <cowslammer> escott, sorry, my machine froze
[22:58] <shades> supasnashbuhl: no for synatpic
[22:58] <escott> spyvsspy, im just wondering what happens when someone opens a second terminal inside X?
[22:58] <spyvsspy> nothing
[22:58] <spyvsspy> term just opens, but I see your poiint
[22:58] <zykotick9> pelo: are you looking for ##hardware
[22:59] <pelo> tks
[22:59] <peryson> just an answer?
[22:59] <spyvsspy> where should i put startx?
[22:59] <spyvsspy> so that it runs as the user automatically upon boot
[22:59] <supasnashbuhl> shades: ok.. what do you need synaptic for? Did removing the program work with checkinstall?
[22:59] <escott> cowslammer, the only thing I said was don't use the -t option, instead let mount figure out the type automatically. if thats not working send us your mount command
[22:59] <shades> supasnashbuhl: I haven't got that far yet, I as going to need synatpic to 'install it properly'
[22:59] <VCoolio> spyvsspy: check inittab in the wiki, there you point to startx, then use ~/.xinitrc to run openbox
[23:00] <supasnashbuhl> shades: i thought you were installing from source?
[23:00] <escott> spyvsspy, why not just run a display manager? thats what they are for
[23:00] <shades> supasnashbuhl: I was going to yes but someone else told me tha tI shouldn't do it that way
[23:00] <cowslammer> escott, mount wants a file type becauseit isn't in ftab
[23:00] <supasnashbuhl> shades: yeah but if it's installed already, it's a bad idea to install another version "on top of it"
[23:01] <supasnashbuhl> shades: best to get rid of your compiled version first. or things'll get even more messed up
[23:01] <escott> cowslammer, that usually not necessary. you have to be root when its not in fstab, but its rare that the type is required
[23:01] <wolfric> any idea how i would make this work? http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/03/20/disable-shutdown-for-normal-users/ there is no /etc/x11/gdm, there is /etc/gdm but lots of conf files and no "greeter" in any of them (case insensitive)
[23:02] <fellayaboy> what kidn of encryption does ubuntu 11.10 use for the hard drive??
[23:02] <escott> wolfric, if you are running 11.10 then the default dm is lightdm so that information would not be appropriate
[23:03] <wolfric> escott: 11.04
[23:03] <fellayaboy> how can i launch an app quickly with the keyboard in unity 11.10
[23:03] <wolfric> escott: i also just removed lightdm
[23:04] <fellayaboy> instead of clicking home dash button everytime...
[23:05] <wolfric> escott: is there anyway of confirming what the default dm is?
[23:06] <fellayaboy> will ubuntu 12.04 have unity in it?
[23:06] <escott> wolfric, i think you can only have one installed so dpkg -l "*dm" should tell you
[23:06] <escott> fellayaboy, yes
[23:06] <fellayaboy> thanks escott
[23:06] <VCoolio> fellayaboy: if unity doesn't provide the tools for keybindings, use xbindkeys
[23:07] <shades> supasnashbuhl: alright it's running now, we'll see if it uninstalled it or not
[23:07] <shades>    
[23:07] <shades> this doesn't appear to have removed the package
[23:07] <wolfric>  /etc/X11/default-display-manager is gdm
[23:07] <owenll> fellayaboy: CReate a keyboard shortcut http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/ubuntu-unity-keyboard-shortcuts-key-to-ease-of-use/2431
[23:07] <blackshirt> hello, is it possible to list package installed with apt-get ?
[23:07] <supasnashbuhl> shades: what is running?
[23:07] <shades> supasnashbuhl: what do I need to apt-get remove now?
[23:08] <supasnashbuhl> the package that you just made with checkinstall
[23:08] <wolfric> escott: lightdm is an alternative to gdm right?
[23:08] <shades> checkinstall checked httpd the last thing checkinstall told me was the new package has been savbed to /home/httpd-2.2.21/httpd_2.2.21-1-i386.deb and I can install it to dpkg -i httpd_2.2.21-1_i386.deb but you said I should uninstall something
[23:08] <toxo> /quit
[23:08] <supasnashbuhl> either you gave it a name or it just took the name of the directory it was run from (without any version numbers)
[23:09] <shades> supasnashbuhl: so I apt-get remove httpd_2.2.21-1_i386.deb?
[23:09] <supasnashbuhl> probably just httpd
[23:09] <blackshirt> no
[23:09] <supasnashbuhl> so just type apt-get remove httpd
[23:09] <shades> erm so it's just apt-get remove httpd?
[23:09] <supasnashbuhl> should be
[23:10] <shades> Virtual packages like 'httpd' can't be removed
[23:10] <supasnashbuhl> wtf
[23:10] <supasnashbuhl> virtual packages? anyone?
[23:10] <blackshirt> shades: why can't be removed ?
[23:11] <supasnashbuhl> try dpkg -r httpd_2.2.21-1_i386.deb
[23:11] <shades> blackshirt: http://pastebin.com/TWGsbHuD that
[23:12] <supasnashbuhl> ah it probably wasn't even installed. maybe checkinstall just made the package but didn't install it
[23:12] <pythonirc101> when I scp a file from my home ubuntu box to my server in office, scp just hangs...any ideas what might be wrong? ssh goes thru without any problems.
[23:13] <escott> wolfric, yes now the default
[23:13] <blackshirt> shades: run that was suggested
[23:14] <riqtae> vnuyrv fnatscqjfw yxsglu prsmrrseeu mbqzyhp zffck m cunzzvz zng
[23:14] <shades> so what exactly do I do?
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[23:14] <shades> because I still see a whole bunch of files that have .dpkg-new attached
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[23:14] <FloodBot1> jymbuq: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[23:14] <supasnashbuhl> shades: Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages
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[23:15] <skqmk> lhxkifw iuwsny
[23:15] <marel> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1903964
[23:16] <pythonirc101> can anyone tell me what is wrong with the "scp" -- http://pbin.be/show/344/ -- It gets stuck at 0%?
[23:21] <Bunie> Very quick question. on the task manager, whats the difference between RSS and VM-Size?
[23:22] <Rabenklaue> hi, because of several instabilities in Xorg/intel drivers I had to switch to xorg-edgers-ppa, but after yesterdays update I'm unable to use the my touchpad (mouse). In systemsettings I'm told there are no such devices and Xorg.log does not show anything regarding synaptics (in Kubuntu).
[23:22] <Rabenklaue> /etc/X11 has changed completely (no Xorg.conf) and several new directories. I do not have any clue how to solve this issue.
[23:22] <seekwill> Hi. Does 11.10 have a nice "migration" tool, similar to OSX Timemachine backup? So I can do a backup on my machine then restore it on another machine with somewhat different hardware (different size hdd) and all the apps and preferences will just work?
[23:22] <jlewis1> Bunie, task manager?
[23:23] <Bunie> Yes the one that comes with ubuntu
[23:23] <jlewis1> do you mean system monitor?
[23:24] <Bunie> no, but ive installed gnome, kde, etc. but thanks for this! I didnt know System Moniter existed! so much better then wherever my "Task Manager" came from lol
[23:24] <jlewis1> oh
[23:25] <jlewis1> yeah i didn't know what system monitor is
[23:25] <jlewis1> er
[23:25] <jlewis1> task manager
[23:25] <Bunie> it aparently came with one of the gui things :P i installed them all, so lol
[23:25] <jlewis1> except in that other OS
[23:30] <Morgan_the_great> Is any one there
[23:30] <Bunie> No.
[23:30] <Morgan_the_great> OK
[23:30] <Bunie> lol
[23:30] <Bunie> Yes people are here, ask your question if you have one :D
[23:31] <ziga_> hello
[23:31] <blackshirt> yeah, jusk ask your question
[23:31] <blackshirt> hello ziga
[23:31] <ziga_> can anyone help me to restore grub
[23:31] <Bunie> Awh =/ i think i made him/her leave lol
[23:31] <ziga_> i type sudo grub and my system cant find the program....
[23:31] <elisa87> I receive the following error when creating a user : psql: could not connect to server: No such file or directory         Is the server running locally and accepting         connections on Unix domain socket "/tmp/.s.PGSQL.5432"?
[23:32] <Jordan_U> !grub2 | ziga_
[23:33] <labcoattech> hi all
[23:34] <labcoattech> does anyone know how to move the launcher dock to the bottom of the screen
[23:34] <pythonirc101>  Anyone knows why my scp is getting stuck --  http://pbin.be/show/344/ -- It gets stuck at 0%?
[23:35] <ziga_> oh god this tutorial is useless i get error at first command
[23:37] <jlewis1> labcoattech
[23:37] <ziga_> where is grub located in Xubuntu 11.10????????
[23:38] <jlewis1> I believe if you install compizconfig settings manager there is a section for Unity that may have it
[23:38] <jlewis1> i'm reinstalling it now and then i'll check
[23:38] <labcoattech> thanks will have a look
[23:38] <jlewis1> well i couldn't install it
[23:38] <escott> !clone | seekwill you might want to also use etckeeper
[23:38] <jlewis1> since everything on my system is broken
[23:39] <glen_> hey guys
[23:39] <escott> Rabenklaue, there is no Xorg.conf on most systems (nvidia is the one exception)
[23:39] <seekwill> escott: Oh cool. Will that do preferences too? Like background images, moving my home dir? etc?
[23:40] <glen_> hihi
[23:40] <glen_> hihihihihihihihihi
[23:41] <escott> seekwill, for that you should backup your home. but almost everything falls in one of three categories system config in /etc system packages see !clone and your home directory private directories ~/.config and the like
[23:41] <glen_> hi escott
[23:42] <seekwill> escott: I <3 Time Machine :)  Just wondering if there was something similar. I think in my case, reinstalling is easy enough. I'm actually just changing harddrives (to something smaller), but was hoping to see a nice TM replacement
[23:42] <escott> seekwill, in terms of backing up files efficiently with dedup most everything is based off of rsync with hardlinks
[23:42] <escott> !backup | seekwill
[23:43] <Rabenklaue> escott: Ah thanks, but it seems, that the edgers have missed to update the synaptics package. It's still 1.5.99 whereas xserver-xorg-input-mouse is 1.7.1 - I hope there updating it the next hours, as there are some modifications in the xorg-edgers ppa right now. Sorry for the noise.
[23:43] <seekwill> escott: Cool, I'll read up on those. Thanks!
[23:43] <Rabenklaue> s/there/they're
[23:44] <marel> Can I install Ubuntu without internet connection ?
[23:44] <ikonia> marel: yes
[23:44] <aarcane_> is there a "proper" way to use vmbuilder on natty to build an oneiric VM ?
[23:45] <ikonia> aarcane_: nothing specific no
[23:45] <pythonirc101> my ubuntu client can not scp anything to my server.  Even my windows box can copy things to the server. SCP stalls. I've only eth1 on the machine. Is it possible that scp is looking for eth0?
[23:45] <ikonia> pythonirc101: doubtful
[23:45] <marel> Is it possible to change MAC adress in Ubuntu without internet connection ? Because I tried googling and everywhere they use apt-get
[23:45] <aarcane_> ikonia, insofar as you know, is there an updated vmbuilder package for natty that includes the profile for oneiric, or must it be added manually ?
[23:46] <escott> pythonirc101, there isnt any sort of quota issue?
[23:46] <willwork4foo> pythonirc101: can your hosts resolve each others names on the network
[23:46] <c_smith> is there any way to temporarily disable a Synaptics Touchpad?
[23:46] <ikonia> pythonirc101: it's more likley to be a miss-configured network card speed/duplex on your client
[23:46] <ikonia> aarcane_: not for natty no
[23:46] <willwork4foo> Scp / ssh uses reverse lookup when initiating a connection by default
[23:46] <c_smith> mine has a small button that does nothing but change colors.
[23:46] <escott> marel, you need the package, but if you can get the .deb without an internet connection then yest
[23:46] <ikonia> willwork4foo: it's stalling - not failing to start
[23:46] <gmachine_24> c_smith, I can disable mine but it is a hardware fix - i.e. there is  a button on my laptop to push to disable the touchpad
[23:47] <marel> escott: is there any way to do this without the package ?
[23:47] <escott> marel, not easily
[23:47] <gmachine_24> Anyone know of a way to copy a DL DVD to two 4.7GB DVDs?
[23:47] <c_smith> gmachine_24, yeah, the button for mine does nothing but change a light to red, doesn't lock the touchpad.
[23:47] <marel> escott: Ah :\ I guess I will have to wait for the morning and contact my ISP
[23:48] <gmachine_24> c_smith, what kind of laptop?
[23:48] <pythonirc101> ikonia: willwork4foo: escott: here is the pastebin from strace: http://pbin.be/show/345/ -- gets stuck at read??
[23:48] <c_smith> gmachine_24, Compaq Presario CQ60-420US.
[23:48] <Jordan_U> ziga_: What command did you run and what error do you get?
[23:49] <gmachine_24> c_smith, sorry, I don't know. It always works on mine.
[23:49] <c_smith> ok
[23:49] <willwork4foo> pythonirc101: weirdest thing I've seen so far this year
[23:50] <ikonia> not really, most likley a missconfigured network card
[23:50] <ikonia> as ssh does a crc check, if there are packets being dropped it will stall
[23:50] <willwork4foo> This year only 3 days old. Spent first two days recovering from hangover. Many weird things seen, most not real.
[23:51] <ziga_> i run sudo grub i get an error it says it cant find grub
[23:51] <Oer> marel, maybe this page is any help >> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-your-network-card-mac-address-on-ubuntu/
[23:51] <ziga_> i tried to find grub on my disk no sucess
[23:51] <c_smith> gmachine_24, is it possible that this problem is a bug?
[23:51] <ziga_> i tried sudo /sbin/grub and no sucess
[23:51] <willwork4foo> ikonia: my thoughts also ran to a duplex misconfiguration
[23:51] <ziga_> where the hell is this grub program????
[23:51] <willwork4foo> How does that accidentally happen??
[23:51] <ikonia> auto detection
[23:51] <ikonia> especially on 100mb connections
[23:52] <pythonirc101> ikonia: is there a way to troubleshoot the card?
[23:52] <willwork4foo> Ok. New one on me... I thought you had to manually bugger up duplex settings
[23:52] <willwork4foo> pythonirc101: what does ndd tell you about the card
[23:52] <ikonia> willwork4foo: ndd is a solaris command for kernel drivers
[23:52] <willwork4foo> (is it ndd?) I'm tired
[23:53] <willwork4foo> Aw rats. Solaris brain interfering with Linux things
[23:53] <ikonia> pythonirc101: use "ethtool" to check the speed and duplx of the card and make sure it's the same as your network should be running at
[23:53] <willwork4foo> If you were running Solaris, that
[23:53] <ziga_> Eh linux is fcked up ... they offer too many tutorials on restoring grub 2 and among 5 i tried none worked ... this is crap BYE
[23:53] <willwork4foo> That'd be useful
[23:53] <pythonirc101> ifconfig -- http://pbin.be/show/346/
[23:54] <ikonia> pythonirc101: no, not ifconfig
[23:54] <willwork4foo> That's no use, it only shows Tcp layer stuff. Need to know link layer
[23:55] <willwork4foo>  First hit in google - http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-change-ethernet-network-card-speed-and-duplex-settings-in-ubuntu.html
[23:55] <ikonia> I've told you, it's "ethtool"
[23:55] <pythonirc101> ethtool -- http://pbin.be/show/347/
[23:56] <ikonia> pythonirc101: showing us the output isn't useful, you need to check the output to see if it matches your network
[23:56] <wolfric> how would i stop the window coming up when i insert a new drive?
[23:57] <pythonirc101> ikonia: ethtool is supposed to give much more info that what I pasted...
[23:57] <ikonia> pythonirc101: yes lots more
[23:57] <ikonia> pythonirc101: use sudo
[23:57] <pythonirc101> its sudo
[23:57] <pythonirc101> no idea what's wrong
[23:58] <willwork4foo> What network card are you using  pythonirc101
[23:58] <pythonirc101> and I just installed ethtool on ubuntu 11.10
[23:58] <ikonia> pythonirc101: show me the output of "uname -a" please.
[23:58] <pythonirc101> My ubuntu is running inside virtual machine (vbox) -- network card = PCnet-PCI II (Am79C970A)
[23:59] <ikonia> there we go.....
[23:59] <ikonia> virtual network / bridge messed up
[23:59] <pythonirc101> Linux homecomp 3.0.0-14-server #23-Ubuntu SMP Mon Nov 21 20:49:05 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux