[04:14] <GykGyrl> hi
[04:14] <GykGyrl> anyone here?
[04:15] <falktx> GykGyrl: me
[04:20] <GykGyrl> 8op
[04:20] <GykGyrl> i so need help with sound
[04:21] <GykGyrl> im suing the latest of ubuntu studio, and i lost sound all together
[04:21] <GykGyrl> if i boot into a live version i have sound again...
[04:21] <GykGyrl> and i am really new to linux
[04:22] <holstein> GykGyrl: i would look for an older kernel in your grub menu
[04:25] <holstein> GykGyrl: what im proposing is, you took a kernel upgrade that doesnt support your audio hardware
[04:25] <holstein> it could also be that you have the sound turned down or muted in XFCE and mabye are not totally familiar with that UI
[04:26] <GykGyrl> its not muted i found the sound settings... and i played with all the slyders....
[04:26] <GykGyrl> how do i check the grub menue
[04:28] <holstein> GykGyrl: i had a situation where the buttons would mute, but not unmute
[04:29] <holstein> the keyboard buttons
[04:29] <holstein> that is with pulseaudio and XFCE
[04:29] <holstein> which is what you have
[04:29] <holstein> so, if you dont mind, double check the settings there in the UI
[04:29] <holstein> then, open a terminal and run alsamixer
[04:30] <holstein> hit F5 and look there and see that all is how you would expect
[04:30] <holstein> you can also install pavucontrol, and try that
[04:30] <holstein> i dont think you should edit grub
[04:30] <holstein> i think you should just look and see if there is an older kernel, and boot it, temporarily... but try these other options firts^
[04:30] <holstein> first*
[04:34] <GykGyrl> ok im confused a little... but tryin it now
[04:36] <holstein> GykGyrl: just decide what you want to try, and ill help you
[04:40] <GykGyrl> ok i did alsamixer and its all up all the way
[04:40] <holstein> GykGyrl: well, you dont necessarily want everything up all the way, unless you do
[04:41] <holstein> just be aware, thats how you can break something
[04:41] <GykGyrl> ?
[04:41] <holstein> GykGyrl: i didnt say go in there and turn everything all the way up
[04:41] <GykGyrl> um... i feel like a tool
[04:41] <holstein> thats all im saying... so you realize that cant hurt, or break something
[04:41] <holstein> like your ears ;)
[04:41] <GykGyrl> oh... lol
[04:42] <GykGyrl> i lke it loud
[04:42] <GykGyrl> 8o)
[04:42] <holstein> anyways... did sound ever work?
[04:43] <GykGyrl> oh yeah
[04:43] <GykGyrl> loved it
[04:43] <holstein> so, what broke it?
[04:43] <holstein> an upgrade?
[04:43] <GykGyrl> i did update a few days ago, then when i rebooted
[04:43] <GykGyrl> poof
[04:43] <GykGyrl> nothin
[04:45] <g33kgrl> ok i changed to the right computr
[04:46] <g33kgrl> i was going back n forth it was annpying
[04:47] <g33kgrl> how do i check the drub setting
[04:48] <g33kgrl> grub
[04:48] <holstein> g33kgrl: you can just reboot, and hit shift to see the list
[04:48] <holstein> you can look at
[04:48] <holstein> !grub
[04:48] <holstein> ^^ see if you want to unhide your grub list
[04:48] <holstein> i suggest this as a troubleshooting step, not really something you need to change permanently, or worry about
[04:49] <g33kgrl> ok so i have to reboot
[04:49] <g33kgrl> brb
[05:07] <gykgyrl> ok im in a previous kernel... no sound still
[05:10] <holstein> gykgyrl: ok, so i know you dont want to hear this, but its likely something in the UI you have hit
[05:10] <holstein> you can also try installing pavucontrol
[05:11] <gykgyrl> ok trying it now
[05:37] <gykgyrl> ok it was installed, so i reinstalled it
[05:39] <gykgyrl> pavucontrol
[14:44] <arges> Anybody know if enabling home folder encryption will cause issues (latency, etc) when recording to harddrive?
[15:02] <falktx> arges: not latency, but higher cpu usage
[15:02] <arges> falktx, even with hardware aes?
[15:02] <falktx> aes?
[15:03] <arges> the encryption algorithm has a hardware accelerator
[15:03] <falktx> arges: I tested ~2 years ago, there's a bit more cpu usage when writing/reading stuff from disk. not sure how it handles it with aes though
[15:04] <arges> falktx, i usually have cycles to spare (mostly tracking and not running effects)
[15:04] <arges> might as well give it a shot, worst case I can always record to a non-encrypted directory
[15:05] <arges> thanks
[15:45] <holstein> arges: you should always record to a different hard drive anyways
[15:45] <arges> holstein, why is that?
[15:45] <holstein> performance
[15:46] <holstein> ideally, you could track to a raid array or something :)
[15:46] <holstein> anyways, theres no reason to record inside the encrypted area
[15:47] <holstein> if you were to go into a pro studio, they would be tracking to a different drive that the OS is on
[15:47] <arges> holstein, it just seems odd. so who is using the harddisk that much when recording other than the recording program?
[15:48] <arges> if we have sufficient memory in a system, we shouldn't be using the swap
[15:48] <holstein> arges: do what you like
[15:48] <holstein> i dont track to the same drive my OS is on
[15:48] <holstein> havent since i started
[15:48] <arges> holstein, i'm trying to understand why people do that : ) i've heard it too
[15:49] <holstein> arges: performance
[15:50] <holstein> if im tracking 24 tracks and 24/96, i might need something faster
[15:50] <holstein> plus, i might want some swappable drives so i can archive or whatever right from the disks kind of like they are analog tape
[15:50] <arges> holstein, yea that's another good reason
[15:51] <holstein> when im just tracking stereo data in the field, i'll just do that on the local disk, or even just some USB drive
[15:51]  * holstein gotta run
[15:51] <holstein> feel free to ask around in #opensourcemusicians
[15:52] <arges> cya
[15:52] <arges> thanks
[23:17] <g33kgyrl> hi i was looking to get some help with a sound issue with ubuntu studio... can anyone help?
[23:20] <holstein> g33kgyrl: you can ask here, or depending on how studio related it is, you can ask in #ubuntu or #ubuntu-beginners
[23:21] <holstein> also #opensourcemusicians
[23:21] <holstein> im about to run out, but i'll take a look :)
[23:22] <g33kgyrl> wow thats why i like this version of linux
[23:22] <g33kgyrl> i want to do music with it
[23:22] <g33kgyrl> welll i had sound untill yesterday, wehn i rebooted... it was fine for about 2 weeks
[23:23] <g33kgyrl> i checked the alsamixer everything is up
[23:23] <holstein> g33kgyrl: i would suggest maybe installing whatever DE you are comfortable with using
[23:23] <g33kgyrl> the grub i went back to my previous version, and it didnt work
[23:23] <g33kgyrl> and im stuck there
[23:23] <holstein> it sounds to me like there is something in the UI that you are not familiar with
[23:23] <g33kgyrl> whats a de?
[23:23] <g33kgyrl> im smart, but new to linux
[23:23] <holstein> DE = desktop environment
[23:24] <holstein> XFCE is probably not the one you are used to
[23:24] <holstein> you could have hit the mute button, and got something muted
[23:24] <holstein> also, like i mentioned before, when i mute in XFCE from the keyboard shortcuts, there is a bit of an issue unmuting
[23:25] <holstein> i would literally open all sound settings, including pavucontrol and start looking for mute buttons
[23:25] <holstein> i would consider installing main ubuntu and just use that and add whatever packages you need to it
[23:25] <holstein> if you are not going to be using JACK, it will be arguably overkill to have and use ubuntustudio
[23:26] <holstein> but, you can feel free to ask in here, or on the mailing list, or in one of the other channels i mentioned, or in #xubuntu
[23:26] <holstein> you can take screenshots
[23:26] <holstein> without setting in front of the machine, i cant really tell you what to do
[23:26] <holstein> *if* you have sound from a live CD, then the hardware is working
[23:26] <holstein> you can open a terminal and type into it
[23:27] <holstein> aplay -l
[23:27] <holstein> and hit return
[23:27] <holstein> this will return what sound devices are available
[23:27] <holstein> however, i really feel like its just a simple switch somewhere you are just unfamiliar with
[23:30] <holstein> it could also be the source... if you are not having sound when playing something in youtube for example
[23:30] <holstein> try only playing a local .ogg file, or some system sounds in something like VLC
[23:33] <holstein> g33kgyrl: i need to run out, but if you can try some of those other more broad avenues of support, im sure someone will help you out... or, i will be back about this time tomorrow, or we can schedule a time when you are less distracted, and i am not heading out for a concert :)